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April 29, 2025 - X22 Report
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Bob Kudla – When Trump Is Finished, Federal Reserve Will Be Insignificant,Long Live Gold & Bitcoin

Bob is the created and owner of Trade Genius Academy. Bob also does a podcast on YouTube which is called Trade Genius. Bob begins the conversation talking about how Germany is going to block out the sun, which means solar power will not work they way they said it will to power the country. Gold and Bitcoin are making moves as the fiat currency implodes on itself. Oil is going to come down to counter the tariff temp price increase, but when the temp price increase is gone because companies are paying for it people are going to see prices come down. In the end the Federal Reserve will be insignificant.

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Hi and welcome to the X22 Report Spotlight.
Today we have a returning guest, Bob Kudlow.
Bob is the creator and owner of TradeGeniusAcademy.com and I am very happy to have Bob back on the X22 Report Spotlight.
Bob, welcome back to the spotlight.
Hey Dave, thanks for having me.
Hey, thanks for being here.
I just wanted to start off, we'll talk about the economy, gold and Bitcoin and all that, but let's start off with Germany right now.
Germany, they're planning to block out the Sun for the Green News scam.
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh, man.
It's like pulling on a thread.
You don't know what bad things can happen from that.
You know, it's funny.
They always worry about, like, a runaway greenhouse effect.
It's actually the other effect that's even worse because, you know, when you have volcanoes pumping sulfur dioxide and water vapor high into the stratosphere, that's usually when actually crops fail.
Crops usually don't fail because you have global warming.
They fail when you have global cooling.
I don't see how Germany can...
Can unilaterally do something that affects the whole world, but that's a crazy idea.
I wonder if they're just trying to do it over their country, saying, you know, to set up like maybe a fog mist or something, just to do it, to say, hey, we're moving forward with the Green News Gammon.
I think what this is going to do, this is going to wake up a lot of people in Germany going, holy crap, we don't have the sun anymore.
But if they block out the sun, how does solar work?
It doesn't.
Well, actually, I take that back.
You actually...
There's always some photons hidden in your panels.
It's just that it's extremely degraded.
Actually, it doesn't really make sense when they talk about solar wind blocking out the sun.
I mean, I think we're starting to see what their true agenda is.
Basically, they don't want us to have power or sunlight.
I think they should use the smoke from this, Dave.
But you know, the Green Party is collapsing in Germany right now.
And the AFD now actually has the highest polling numbers of all the parties.
So just keep on being you.
And we'll have a whole different Germany here in the next three or four years.
I agree with that.
And when you look around the world, you can see that the fake news and a lot of economists and a lot of the Ds, they're all out there trying to convince everyone that we're heading for this recession, depression because of the tariffs.
And so far, I mean, they also talked about a stock market crash.
And yes, the stock market came down.
But it seems like they're trying to drive the news to actually create the problem.
I mean, is that what you're seeing?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
This is narrative building.
They want to create the problem so they can report on the problem.
But, you know, they fundamentally don't understand economics.
So we actually have historical precedent as to why that won't happen to the United States.
And they keep using the 1929 Smoot-Harley Act as their base case to what will happen to the United States.
But you've got to remember, in 1929, the United States was the largest creditor and the largest trade surplus country in the world.
And we also had a unique situation where you had suppressed output because of World War I that was coming online in the 2020s.
So it was a very unique situation.
United States in 2025 is the world's largest trade deficit country for trade and also the largest debtor by size.
And so a trade war with the United States is actually a good guy for the United States and an absolute disaster for the largest creditor and the largest trade surplus countries in the world,
i.e.
China.
And to the lesser extent, the European Union and Japan and Korea.
So in this environment, during the Great Depression, Great Britain was us.
And they were pulling back from their empire and they were bringing everything back into the United Kingdom.
And they actually...
We skirted the Great Depression fairly effectively.
In fact, real estate prices in London rose during the Great Depression.
So there was money flowing into the United Kingdom during that period of time.
And so that's what's going to happen with the United States here.
And so the other point about tariffs is that you get a one-time But it doesn't hold because you now have multiple countries competing for the access to the United States market.
And you'll see a lot of those tariffs get eaten into by people accepting lower margins in order for them to sell product.
And eventually tariffs become deflationary.
But let's say they don't.
You're going to have higher real wages in the United States, and you're going to have a lower incentive for companies to play the arbitrage labor game around the world because Trump's putting a baseline tariff in place.
So it's one of those things where, you know, it hurts because you're doing two-a-day football practices, but by the time you get into September and October, you're in shape and you're running.
It's just that the Democrats are desperate to find anything to hang this on Trump.
And I remind people, and you'd be good to remind people too, is that ask them, anybody that you know is losing their job because of a Trump policy, be it the elimination of jobs and programs in Washington,
D.C. area.
Or the elimination of jobs because of a tariff.
And I think you're going to find very, very few people are going to have that situation happen to them.
And so Trump holds all the cards here.
And he can dial the levers as he sees fit.
In fact, China has already dropped some tariffs on U.S. goods.
And America has dropped some tariffs on Chinese goods already, too.
You're already starting to get that push-pull, but make no mistake, Trump's in control of this whole process because we have the numbers on our side.
I agree with that.
And the Smoot-Howley tariff act, I mean, we were already in a Great Recession, you know, in a depression, and then they enacted this act, and they're saying that it contributed.
Maybe it was too late.
You know, to bring this into fruition because we were already in the Depression.
But this time around, like you said, it's very, very different.
And we hold all the cards.
Plus, with everyone saying, oh, you know, we're going to see, you know, prices rise and, you know, we're going to see massive inflation.
It's amazing.
When they were spending money like crazy and we actually saw inflation, they said, we're not seeing it.
Now, we're not going to see inflation.
They're telling us that there's going to be massive inflation.
But what's very interesting about this is that energy prices are going down now.
And I think what's happening right now...
Is that the energy, the lower energy prices is...
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You know, as you go to the pump, you're starting to realize, okay, it's a little bit cheaper, a little bit cheaper, a little bit cheaper.
And when we start to drill for oil, I think at this point, I think Trump now is setting it up where there's only going to be like 28 days that they have to wait to get the permits and everything to drill for oil.
So I think by the end of the summer...
I think we're going to see very inexpensive oil.
And I think this is going to counter whatever price increases temporarily that we see.
Because if you're saving a lot of money going to the pump and it costs a lot less to transport the item, a lot less to manufacture the item, I think that is a great way to counter whatever price increases that we see.
And I think this window is closing for the deep state and the news where they can say, oh, he's ruining the economy because I don't think this is going to hold whatsoever.
So here, think about it this way.
Where's most of the GDP spent in the country, right?
Food, energy, housing, medical, and government, okay?
So food prices are falling, right?
Energy prices are falling.
Rents are starting to fall.
You know, healthcare is the problem child, right?
But that has nothing to do with the tariffs.
And in fact, if we did push come to shove and we say that if you want to sell your drugs in the United States, we got to get the best deal.
Then you can drive cost that down too.
So most of the spending is unaffected by these trade wars.
China, you know, is, what is it, 40% of our trade?
So it's not like people don't have options to shift production to Vietnam, India, Mexico, Indonesia, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So I just think it's one of the things.
I think what Trump's trying to do, though, quite frankly, Dave, is he wants to bust the supply chains.
He wants to force these companies to have multiple sources of supply.
And in the end, it's going to be good for them because they're going to have competition now of, hey, do you want my business?
You can bid on it, right?
Indonesia, Malaysia, India, China, you know, or, you know, get my business.
So I think what's going to happen is we're going to export the margin compression overseas.
And in the United States, we're going to eventually probably just see a one-time modest bump.
And then we're just going to have this rain of money coming into the Treasury.
So do you think China's going to fold first?
They already have.
They haven't really come out and said, okay, let's make a deal, but I think they're going to try to ride this out.
Maybe they're doing it behind closed doors.
They've dropped tariffs without making any announcement whatsoever.
Yeah, yeah.
And as we see this progress with tariffs and...
Everything else, we see Bitcoin, it bumped up, moved up to $95,000 or so.
We see gold is above $3,300.
I mean, how high do you think Bitcoin, do you think it's over with where Bitcoin is going to continually drop, or do you see something else happening?
You know, what's interesting is the great debate inside of our shop right now.
You know, it's weird.
If you were to ask me that question two weeks ago, it's natural for us to see Bitcoin fall back.
You know, into the low 60s, maybe even lower in a recession and investor sentiment change.
But all of a sudden, out of the blue, we have this company that just went public called CEP, Counter Fitzgerald Equity Partners.
Them and SoftBank and the guy, Thaler, I think his name is, created an entity to basically, they call it micro strategy on steroids.
And so they have a derivatives desk, they have a funding source, and they're going to hoover up Bitcoin like crazy.
And also Brazil, in Brazil, they created a Microsoft lookalike too.
So you're starting to see maybe anything that's going to come out on the markets is going to get hoovered up.
I'm less bearish than I was.
We just have to see Bitcoin.
Go through a recession for us to kind of really know how it affects.
But I will tell you, Bitcoin and gold were the safe havens during the February-March wound.
And they're not really giving anything back up on the recovery of the stock market.
So I'm not as bearish as I was.
In fact, I still lean.
Pretty long.
You know, in some of the shares I own, I day trade MicroStrategy all the time.
And I own Bydo, I own Ybit, and I just bought a starter position in this CEP company.
So it's really going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
Bitcoin may not go down.
It may just have a permanent bid now as people try to explain away the collapse in fiat.
Yeah, and I see gold.
I mean, I'm surprised that it's holding steady at $3,300 and moving up.
I think this is going to go much, much higher.
I don't know if you believe it's going to go much higher.
I do, and I don't know if did I tell you this last time we spoke.
I think there's a hidden good guy in it for the Trump administration because he hasn't repriced gold yet from whenever the last time it was repriced.
And so he gets to put that gain on the balance sheet, and he can use that, you know.
He can use it to pay down debt.
He can use it to buy back treasuries that are too expensive.
And, you know, right now we're gold sitting.
You know, you're talking about three quarters of a trillion to a trillion dollars that he can add to the TGA, which is a...
Treasury general account.
And every time gold goes up, he can keep repricing it.
So if he keeps forcing gold to go up $3,000 a year, he can take $4 trillion of debt out of the books.
And that's why I joke with people.
I'm like, well, Bitcoin a million, gold 100,000, I think that pays off the debt.
Yeah.
I mean, that is true.
So, I mean, throughout all of this, how have you been doing with your trading systems, your algorithms?
Oh, we've done quite well.
I will say, though, just so people know, is that the day that Trump blindsided everybody with the reciprocal tariffs and the higher ones, we got caught goofy-footed, too, okay?
So it took us a couple days to react.
We can't program orange man comments.
So we just had to kind of like, okay, let's take a look here.
And then we just reacted to what we saw went really well.
So we saw gold and Bitcoin react positively.
Oil held up reasonably well when it got down to the low 60s, high 50s.
And we adjusted pretty quickly.
So we're back.
I think also, I think Trump's tempering his remarks a little bit too now that he's gotten things the way he wants them.
So I think now we're going to go back to where the technical analysis is going to work fairly well.
But overall, we're doing pretty well.
So we're happy with our algorithm.
And for people that don't know that, basically, it looks at momentum, but it also looks at intensity of the move.
And so we're able to find high-probability setups.
And all our trades are posted, and we give people access to this algorithm.
In fact, we took it to a step now where we got it down to one visible algorithm, and people are just making a lot of money on it right now, especially if you're day trading.
When the volatility is just high, you can make a lot of money day trading.
Our clients are hitting it and quitting it, as they say, and the algorithm's giving them really good setup.
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I did it because I lined it as much for my business as I do for people's cash flow.
So with that, Dave, I think people would like what we do here.
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And again...
When you're using the system, you're in the chat room, you're telling people what to do, and they can follow along, and there's a great group in the chat room and everything.
Yeah, so it's all really like-minded people, and we suggest things because we really can't tell people what to do.
Yeah, that's true.
That's okay.
I'm doing it for the recording.
We put trades out every day.
People can follow them or not.
But people ask me questions.
I mean, all weekend long, people ask me questions about the high dividend yield, max trades, how I'm positioned.
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We don't overpromise, but we definitely try to overdeliver.
Great.
Again, I'll put all the links at the bottom of the video.
Let me ask you about Trump drilling, because we mentioned right in the beginning of this that he's shortening the permit period to like 28 days or so.
So how low do you think gas prices are going to go?
I mean, last time it was fracking, but this time I think we're going to drill.
Yeah, so I think oil is going to have a hard time getting below the $50 area because of just the cost of...
of extracting oil out of the ground for new wells is in that range.
So nobody's going to drill if they don't think they can get a decent return on it.
So we are running, actually, a worldwide supply deficit right now.
And nobody's in better shape.
You know, it basically goes from, you know, Saudi Arabia really cheap to United States pretty cheap.
You know, Iran, they can't lift oil out that cheap anymore.
Iraq can't.
Let oil out that cheap anymore.
Russia can't.
So I think we're all going to settle in that range.
But that's a pretty good price.
I mean, you're talking states that have low taxes.
You know, their gas is going to be in the high twos, right?
Only California is absolutely insane.
But everybody else is going to see definitely oil in the $3 range, $3.50, $3.60 range.
And, you know, people are going to be comfortable with that.
The downstream effect of that is going to be huge, Dave, because of the, you know, all the costs are built in with energy costs.
But if I can shift gears slightly over to natural gas.
All this drilling is going to produce excess natural gas, and that natural gas is going to be piped into these LNG facilities in Louisiana, and also we're trying to negotiate with Korea and Japan to build a pipeline and facility from Alaska crude and Alaska natural gas to go.
To Japan and Korea.
And they're very open to this because they don't want to be reliant on the South China Sea for their oil to come through, you know, for obvious reasons.
And also the shipping lanes are long logistics, as they say, where Alaska, you know, is so close that Japan invaded there in World War II.
So you can get the oil to Japan and to Korea and natural gas in short order.
And it's cheap.
You know, it's a lot less money they're paying for the Saudi oil and Saudi natural gas.
So I think you're going to get a deal there, too.
So very strategic.
And I think it's going to help our allies there, too, which then lowers their costs, which then they can afford the tariffs, which then comes in the United States.
And all we know.
Yeah, I think it's all connected.
And when you start to do these things, it makes it better and better and better.
I think Trump right now, he's just building the foundation.
And I think once the foundation is done, you know, after you have the foundation for a building that's done, the building goes up pretty fast.
So I think we're going to see things really move forward very, very quickly.
And I think this is why he's continually putting out the message that he would like to get rid of income tax.
And what's very interesting is they started off with like $150,000 or less.
Now he put out a post on Truth saying, you know, $200,000 or less, we can get rid of income tax.
Do you think he's seeing the tariff numbers come in?
Do you think he's realizing like, okay, this is really good and we can get rid of the income tax for $200,000 or less now?
I think part of it is I've been looking on the websites for the government and I think the tariffs are now generating I think he's going to get close to the $750 billion to $1 trillion when it's all said and done.
But what he's doing here is he's making a case for really, really limiting the activities of the government agencies that are bothering Americans on day to day.
Pretty much any S-corp and individual at $200,000, you're only talking the top 5% now are going to pay any tax at all.
And so I think Democrats are going to have a hard time opposing that.
And then Trump's going to say, I'm going to pay for it through cuts in government spending and tariff contributions.
I mean, well, let's say he does get rid of...
Let's say, just use any number, $150,000, $200,000.
Once he does that, people are going to have a lot more money in their pocket.
I mean, can you imagine someone making $150,000, $100,000?
They get to keep all their money.
I mean, where is this going to go?
Yeah, so you're looking at...
And I just was running some scenarios for me personally.
You know, like, what number do I want to...
Make this year, and as I was daisy-chaining up, if your gross wages are $150,000, really your AGI is anywhere between $90,000 and $110,000, depending on deductions,
you would save about $11,000 in federal income tax.
If you're $200,000, you're going to save about $16,000 in...
In federal income tax.
So it's definitely, that's visible to people.
I mean, you're talking about, you know, an average really cool vacation will cost you, what, six grand, right?
There you go.
Yeah.
And who cares if tariffs raise everything 10%, you know?
You're talking 10% of 20% of your spending.
So, you know, so your budget goes up.
3 or 4%, right?
Unless you're unlucky and you buy all that crap.
But your real take-home pay went up, you know, what, 10%?
So I think you're going to be in pretty good shape.
Yeah, and he just locks people in.
And then because of Doge, I think people are realizing, well, most of the stuff we're spending this stuff off was just stupid.
You know what I'm saying?
And so it can't make the case that good programs are getting cut because every day we're finding out that basically it was the Democrats' slush fund to control our citizens for the benefit of them.
I agree.
Do you think in the end with him removing the income taxes, I mean, if he gets that far, which I do believe he will, do you think he's going after the Federal Reserve?
I think it's probably his last target because, you know, if you're in a fight with a bunch of lions, the last thing you want to do is start shooting at the elephants, you know?
So I think he's going to deli slice that stuff off.
But he can make the Federal Reserve pretty irrelevant, okay?
If he drives the debt down.
Look, the only power that Federal Reserve has is because we have debt, okay?
And so the more he drives debt down, it reduces the power of that influence in our lives.
And number two is if he keeps gold moving higher at the same time, you know, he provides an alternative treasury function outside of the bankers, you know, being able to absorb new debt.
So I think it's really interesting play.
I think I understand the strategy.
And it's Besant and this other guy, I always forget the name of him, the professor.
I think these guys have found and broke the code.
As long as nothing stupid happens after the next election cycle, then I think we're going to be able to fundamentally change the country, but probably change the world because other countries are going to see the miracle of Argentina and the miracle of America and say,
we want that too.
I agree with that.
Hey, Bob, thank you very much for being on the X22 Report Spotlight.
Once again, if people wanted to join up to your trading system, where should they go?
Yeah, go to tradelikeagenius.com or tradegenius.co.
Check out our specials, and I think you'll like what we have to offer.
Pricing's really good, and I think you definitely get a lot more out of it than you get into it, or you put into it.
And I think you'll like being in the rooms.
Everybody's like-minded, and we all help each other for success.
So thanks for letting me pitch it.
No problem.
Like I said before, I'll put all the links at the bottom of the video.
Bob, once again, thank you very much for being on the spotlight.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, Dave.
Thank you.
Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
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Gold has surged 46% in less than a year, doubling the gains of the NASDAQ and S&P 500.
But this isn't just another rally.
Global reserves are shifting, exposing cracks in the monetary system.
Investors are losing confidence in paper gold and demanding physical metal, creating a massive gap between gold owed and gold available.
But this isn't about how institutions broke another system.
about how you can profit from it.
Right now, Noble Gold Investments has a limited supply of investment-grade gold bars and coins available.
As banks scramble to fulfill their obligations, pushing gold prices higher, you can profit.
Smart investors are already moving into physical gold.
Noble Gold Investments makes it easy for you to do the same.
And right now, you can make a qualified investment.
Noble Gold will add a free 10th ounce gold coin to your order.
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