Where There's Woke - Thomas Smith - WTW116: Did You Know That 7 out of 4 Kids Will Be Trafficked Right Now Yesterday?
Aired: 2026-03-06
Duration: 51:30


=== Unaccompanied Migrant Children's Crisis (09:39) ===

[00:00:03]  What's so scary about the woke mob, how often you just don't see them coming?
[00:00:11]  Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed.
[00:00:19]  Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down.
[00:00:27]  The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything, Instead of go-go boots, the seductress green Eminem will now wear sneakers.
[00:00:41]  Hello and welcome to Where There's Woke.
[00:00:43]  I'm Thomas.
[00:00:43]  That over there's Lydia.
[00:00:44]  How you doing?
[00:00:45]  Hello, doing pretty well.
[00:00:47]  Despite what we're talking about, yeah.
[00:00:50]  Look, someone behind you.
[00:00:52]  You almost got trafficked.
[00:00:53]  Oh, geez.
[00:00:54]  Once every three seconds, every child in the world gets trafficked.
[00:00:58]  Every child, yes.
[00:01:00]  Then we just tally up how many times we've all been trafficked.
[00:01:04]  We don't, you know, we talk about our kids.
[00:01:05]  They're not our kids.
[00:01:06]  We traffic.
[00:01:08]  What we did was we found a Facebook group where parents traffic each other's kids to each other.
[00:01:14]  Right.
[00:01:14]  It's a kid exchange.
[00:01:16]  And you draft, you know, you do like first pick.
[00:01:19]  You know, we got, I don't want to comment exactly on how the draft order went, but, you know, we got good picks and bad.
[00:01:24]  I'll just say.
[00:01:26]  Oh, no.
[00:01:27]  Oh, man.
[00:01:28]  No, we're going to, this is, this is so much fun.
[00:01:29]  We're going to delve more into Matt Murphy's amazing world of child trafficking.
[00:01:35]  Like, it's, it's funny to be laughing at that kind of thing, but again, like some of the claims, this is the difficulty.
[00:01:40]  I think people who are listening are along for the ride, hopefully.
[00:01:42]  But obviously, this is a mix between very serious, horrifying, the worst stuff you've ever heard of, and claims about the world that are so fucking insane, you can't help but laugh.
[00:01:52]  You know, it's a wild ride, but this is important because right-wingers think this is real.
[00:01:57]  Like they think this stuff is real.
[00:01:59]  And, you know, 7% of it is real or something, you know, like some amount of it is real.
[00:02:04]  And that's what makes it so insidious.
[00:02:05]  So I'm excited to go more into it.
[00:02:08]  We get some facts and figures.
[00:02:10]  We get Matt Murphy is going to drop some knowledge on us.
[00:02:14]  And fortunately.
[00:02:15]  I can't wait to hear from an expert.
[00:02:17]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:17]  Fortunately, I'm an expert in typing letters into a browser.
[00:02:23]  Yeah.
[00:02:24]  And that makes me a better researcher and expert than this Green Beret or whatever.
[00:02:29]  So I can't wait.
[00:02:30]  Why don't we take our first break and then we will delve into it.
[00:02:34]  Nice.
[00:02:34]  Hey, support the show at patreon.com slash where there's woke.
[00:02:36]  Fund out directly our trafficking of children, please.
[00:02:40]  We need your help.
[00:02:41]  I don't think you're getting like good at these pitches.
[00:02:44]  I think they're getting worse and more.
[00:02:45]  Oh, well, but they're, hold on.
[00:02:46]  They're anti-trafficking, so I'm pro-traffic, right?
[00:02:48]  I'm pro-trafficking.
[00:02:50]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:02:51]  Are you on MAGA's side?
[00:02:54]  Listen to this Trump voter over here.
[00:02:55]  No, we're on the pro-trafficking side.
[00:02:58]  Yeah, right.
[00:02:59]  Patreon sales are as well.
[00:03:06]  Now, we really start to get some claims about what's going on, but it's getting close enough to home now that we need to be aware, right?
[00:03:13]  Yes.
[00:03:14]  So let's talk about that a little bit.
[00:03:15]  No, definitely.
[00:03:16]  Well, it's in everyone's home.
[00:03:18]  And that's what parents don't realize.
[00:03:20]  You know, I think where this changed, you know, human trafficking and prostitution are some of the oldest crimes in the book, right?
[00:03:29]  Then there are women and men that are trafficked all over this world for labor, for sex, for all kinds of different reasons, right?
[00:03:37]  You have indentured servitude.
[00:03:39]  The world's a crazy place, right?
[00:03:41]  These things have always happened, but there's always, unfortunately, been an appetite sexually for people to go after children, right?
[00:03:47]  So, you know, a lot of people like you talked about earlier saw Sound of Freedom and they see a fictional story in the Sound of Freedom that talks about, it's loosely based on real life, but 90% of that movie is not accurate.
[00:04:00]  It didn't happen, right?
[00:04:01]  It's a Hollywood fictionalized story about a true issue.
[00:04:05]  But people see that movie, and this is the dangerous part, and this is what I really want to address.
[00:04:09]  I'm really glad you brought this up.
[00:04:11]  People see that and they're like, oh, that's just kids in some underserved third world country that are being trafficked and victimized.
[00:04:18]  Right.
[00:04:19]  And that movie wakes people up to, oh, this is horrible, but it doesn't wake people up to what's happening right here in the United States.
[00:04:25]  Right.
[00:04:26]  So there's two different levels of this crime that parents need to understand.
[00:04:32]  And this is crucial.
[00:04:33]  The first level that I'll talk about is the trafficking piece.
[00:04:37]  Right.
[00:04:40]  You believe a lie.
[00:04:41]  Most people believe a lie.
[00:04:42]  I believed a lie.
[00:04:44]  There's this white van that's going to pull up, right?
[00:04:46]  Or this person that's just going to snatch my kid, right?
[00:04:49]  That is the exception, not the norm, right?
[00:04:53]  Traffickers don't do that.
[00:04:54]  That's bad for business, right?
[00:04:56]  Because if you've operated in a trafficking ring and you're trying to make money off of people, why are you going to go snatch little Susie off the street and win Brentwood, Tennessee?
[00:05:04]  It's not reality.
[00:05:05]  Now, could there be some creep or some criminal or serial killer or somebody like that that could do it?
[00:05:10]  Of course, right?
[00:05:11]  That stuff has never gone away.
[00:05:13]  That's always happening.
[00:05:14]  But there's not a human trafficking ring snatching our children out of, you know, this off the, you know, out of the yard in nice neighborhoods and families.
[00:05:23]  Where they're going after here in America are the underserved families, you know, the poor areas with trafficking specifically, right?
[00:05:31]  The kids who get addicted to drugs, and that can happen in any neighborhood.
[00:05:36]  The kids who don't have parents or strong fathers.
[00:05:39]  One of the biggest things we find for child exploitation, pedophilia, and kids being victimized is when they don't have a strong father.
[00:05:46]  Now, publicly, a lot of people don't want to hear that.
[00:05:48]  But a strong father is I can show you the interviews.
[00:05:52]  They're like, if their dad loved them, but their dad looked like he could kick my ass.
[00:05:56]  I am not touching that child.
[00:05:57]  Right.
[00:05:58]  So the parents that, you know, protect their kids and raise their kids on the trafficking side, you know, that is a very rare thing.
[00:06:06]  These kids are being trafficked out of the child protection services.
[00:06:08]  They're being trafficked out of the foster care system.
[00:06:11]  All of our government institutions that protect children and taking care of them, they're overwhelmed, they're understaffed.
[00:06:16]  They're hemorrhaging at the seams, just like our law enforcement for the most part in this country is.
[00:06:22]  We should fund the government, though.
[00:06:23]  They're the biggest suppliers of children here in America to be trafficked, right?
[00:06:27]  And underprivileged, unknown.
[00:06:29]  Then you have the runaways, right?
[00:06:31]  Runaway is a whole nother problem.
[00:06:33]  So that's the trafficking side in America.
[00:06:35]  Now we can't forget, and I don't want to get political, but this is just a reality.
[00:06:38]  No matter what side of the aisle you're on, the border is wide open.
[00:06:42]  Millions of people are coming across it.
[00:06:44]  And we know the Department of Homeland Security can account for over 85,000 kids.
[00:06:50]  85,000 children cannot be accounted for in this country right now.
[00:06:53]  And I guarantee you, good things aren't happening to them.
[00:06:55]  Yeah, they're being separated from their families and being.
[00:06:58]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:59]  So that's a claim to look up.
[00:07:01]  Yeah.
[00:07:02]  So I want to check that out.
[00:07:04]  And this is a pretty quick fact check.
[00:07:06]  So that was 80-something thousand kids.
[00:07:08]  In 2023.
[00:07:10]  Yeah.
[00:07:11]  So this also was a claim that JD Vance made a little later on, where he said 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost.
[00:07:22]  This claim is made with different numbers.
[00:07:24]  You know, sometimes it's, and maybe there's some inflation there.
[00:07:28]  But this fact, according to an AP fact check, misrepresents information in an August report published by the Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General, which faulted immigration and customs enforcement for failing to consistently monitor the location and status of unaccompanied migrant children once they are released from federal government custody.
[00:07:48]  The report noted that more than, and who knows, maybe the 80,000 could have been the prior year.
[00:07:52]  I don't know, but like in this year, so this is as of May 2024, 291,000 unaccompanied migrant children had not, as of May 2024, received a notice to appear in court.
[00:08:04]  Additionally, more than 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children got a notice to appear, but then failed to show up for immigration court hearings.
[00:08:12]  Right.
[00:08:13]  These figures come from ICE and covered a period from October 2018 to September 2023.
[00:08:18]  During that period, there were a total of 448,000 unaccompanied children released by ICE to the Department of Health and Human Services Office of Refugee Resettlement.
[00:08:29]  So it's not a missing kids problem.
[00:08:31]  Director of Research and Evaluation for the Acacia Center for Justice's unaccompanied children program wrote, this is not a missing kids problem.
[00:08:38]  It's a missing paperwork problem.
[00:08:40]  Yeah.
[00:08:41]  So it's like, they haven't gone to court.
[00:08:42]  It's not really what it is.
[00:08:44]  It's paperwork.
[00:08:46]  Yeah.
[00:08:47]  You know, it says, experts say there are many reasons why children might not have appeared for hearings or might not have received a notice to appear for hearings in the first place.
[00:08:55]  For example, if they only get a notice to appear when removal proceedings against them have begun, and if ICE hasn't started that removal process, they wouldn't get notice in the first place.
[00:09:04]  A lack of communication between government agencies could mean a notice is sent to the wrong address.
[00:09:08]  Child's guardian may be unable to take them to court.
[00:09:11]  All of these factors can explain some of the deficiencies and a conclusion that the children are missing could be very, very premature, to say the least.
[00:09:18]  Yeah.
[00:09:19]  So, I mean, that's.
[00:09:21]  They're not missing, but it doesn't sound like it's like a good thing or anything.
[00:09:25]  There might be children missing court dates or they might not have even been called.
[00:09:30]  The 291,000 is literally just they haven't been called to court yet.
[00:09:33]  Yeah.
[00:09:33]  Had not, as of May 2024, received a notice to appear in court.
[00:09:37]  Oh, that was also a total over a span of like five years, wasn't it?

=== Ignoring Child Trafficking (11:13) ===

[00:09:42]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:43]  So hard to know when that was.
[00:09:45]  And now that's unaccompanied.
[00:09:47]  So I don't know if that's child separation because unaccompanied is when they just show up with nobody, I think.
[00:09:53]  This seems to be quite overblown.
[00:09:55]  That seems to be not entirely accurate.
[00:09:57]  That is the trafficking piece.
[00:09:59]  It does not affect the neighborhoods and the upper class.
[00:10:04]  I mean, unfortunately, to say like most, well, fortunately, however you want to look at it, most of the people listen to this podcast trafficking is not going to affect them or their children.
[00:10:15]  It's not that, okay, that it's happening on the underserved population or the people that are in the government systems, but that's just the reality.
[00:10:22]  Those are the kids at risk.
[00:10:24]  Now, here's where most of the people that will listen to this show, this is where their kids are at risk.
[00:10:30]  This cell phone right here.
[00:10:32]  This is the most dangerous device that has ever been put in a person's hand.
[00:10:37]  And it's also the greatest thing that's ever been put in.
[00:10:39]  So yeah, he goes on to talk about and, you know, cell phone safety.
[00:10:42]  Yeah.
[00:10:43]  Yeah.
[00:10:43]  Certainly some truth to that.
[00:10:45]  But like the way he starts talking about this just gets really weird.
[00:10:50]  And if you have Patriot mobile, then it's not as dangerous.
[00:10:54]  There's definitely bad people on the internet.
[00:10:56]  The way he talks about it is like there's predators they've got all there seeing your children.
[00:11:00]  Like, I guess technically predators are on the internet, seeing what's on the internet, sure.
[00:11:05]  But then like, okay, he's definitely talking about real problems, but it's also like mixed in to some stuff that's like sounds a little, I don't know, here, let's see.
[00:11:14]  You have the algorithms that are steering hypersexualization and grooming techniques onto children.
[00:11:21]  It's making children question their sexuality.
[00:11:23]  It's making children question their identity.
[00:11:25]  It's opening children up to things on these social media sites and games.
[00:11:30]  It's being injected into everything that they are not mature enough for and they're not ready for.
[00:11:34]  And we don't know this.
[00:11:36]  I don't want to go on a tangent, but it's still on topic.
[00:11:40]  We learned to parent by how we were raised.
[00:11:43]  He talks about, you know, like, oh, when we were kids, we could go do stuff and now they don't, you know, this is kind of typical stuff.
[00:11:49]  Again, some truth to this for sure.
[00:11:51]  Kids don't go outside as much, all that.
[00:11:53]  We're giving our kids phones and all that and ipads and all that.
[00:11:57]  And they talk about that.
[00:11:58]  Depression.
[00:11:59]  Again, it's not really human trafficking, but yeah, sure.
[00:12:02]  Over sexualization.
[00:12:04]  Yep, definitely.
[00:12:04]  I mean, it is a problem.
[00:12:06]  And the technology company is not a big fan.
[00:12:09]  Not a big fan of them.
[00:12:10]  There's definitely ways they are doing really shitty stuff.
[00:12:12]  Yep.
[00:12:12]  For sure.
[00:12:13]  I don't know about the thing where it's like they're funneling stuff to make them question their sexuality.
[00:12:17]  So that's like, okay.
[00:12:19]  I think that's bordering into Republican conspiracy theory, personally, but that's just me.
[00:12:24]  Yeah, it's a little strayed from the mission statement of the nonprofit.
[00:12:29]  So then this, this gets a little crazy.
[00:12:31]  Johnny are just sitting at home on their iPad and their iPhone all day long, playing video games, watching content, and you literally have no clue what they're talking about.
[00:12:39]  It takes a dark they're talking to.
[00:12:42]  You know, so, and that's the last thing I'll say on this topic is there is a manual that is shared online.
[00:12:49]  Um, it's the most of the time you see it, it's about 70-something pages long.
[00:12:54]  It's downloaded millions of times a year that we know of on open internet.
[00:12:59]  I'm not, no encryption, no, no secret dark web stuff.
[00:13:03]  This is on the open torrent sites that we all used to get our music for free on, right?
[00:13:07]  Those are still live and active.
[00:13:09]  This downloaded millions of times here in America, and it teaches people how to find kids, where to find kids, how to talk to kids, how to groom them, how to manipulate them, how to get them to sexually exploit themselves, how to get the child to run away, how to get the child to meet up with you.
[00:13:24]  Because if child runs away, the cops don't look for them.
[00:13:27]  It's all family, right?
[00:13:28]  Right.
[00:13:29]  So get the child to run away, and then it walks them through, depending on the age of the child, you know, how to have sex with them, what you can and can't do.
[00:13:38]  What in the world?
[00:13:39]  You know, when it's only okay to touch.
[00:13:41]  I'm going to get graphic here because parents need to realize this.
[00:13:44]  This is what these people are sharing and reading millions of times a year here in the U.S. You know, when you can put your penis in them at what age.
[00:13:52]  Like, you know, it's, it's unreal.
[00:13:55]  This is the type of stuff that is happening that we just ignore.
[00:13:58]  The parents just like, oh, it won't happen.
[00:14:01]  I wouldn't really say we're ignoring that.
[00:14:04]  Yeah.
[00:14:04]  I've never heard of a manual for pedophiles.
[00:14:07]  I mean, maybe such a thing exists.
[00:14:09]  There's a lot of, you know, again, creeps and pedophiles on the internet.
[00:14:12]  Maybe they're writing some fucking stupid, gross pedophile shit.
[00:14:15]  Is it really downloaded millions of times?
[00:14:17]  Like a guide to I don't want, I'll be honest, I don't even want to search this.
[00:14:23]  I don't know.
[00:14:24]  Like I didn't check this because I don't even want to search this.
[00:14:28]  Yeah, you don't want to essentially.
[00:14:29]  Yeah, I don't need that in my life.
[00:14:30]  But like, I'm skeptical of that claim.
[00:14:33]  And he says in America, too, he somehow knows like it's millions of times in America, which would be hard for him to know, I think.
[00:14:39]  Yeah.
[00:14:40]  God.
[00:14:40]  Yeah.
[00:14:40]  Literally, I'm not looking that up.
[00:14:42]  I several times was like, I want to check that.
[00:14:43]  I'm not joking.
[00:14:44]  No, let's just take him at his word.
[00:14:46]  Whatever.
[00:14:46]  No, I mean, I'm not really going to take him at his word.
[00:14:49]  I believe that this point.
[00:14:51]  Yeah.
[00:14:52]  I don't believe that it's being downloaded millions of times in America by people who are using it as a guide.
[00:14:59]  For nefarious.
[00:15:00]  I just don't, there's not that much of that.
[00:15:03]  Who knows?
[00:15:03]  Who knows?
[00:15:04]  I don't know.
[00:15:04]  That's my, that's my feeling, but I'm not going to look it up.
[00:15:06]  That's one time.
[00:15:07]  Normally I'll look everything up for you folks.
[00:15:09]  Not looking that up unless someone could think of a way to look it up in a way that isn't going to be really weird.
[00:15:14]  I just feel like it's not real, but we'll see.
[00:15:17]  I don't really want that on my computer.
[00:15:18]  Yep, not doing it.
[00:15:19]  This is very alarmist stuff.
[00:15:21]  It's very like trying to get parents maximally afraid.
[00:15:25]  Does that exist?
[00:15:27]  When he says, like, we're ignoring that, there's nothing I'm doing with that information.
[00:15:31]  Like, first off, I'm not ignoring it.
[00:15:33]  I just don't even think that's real.
[00:15:35]  And I've never heard of it before.
[00:15:37]  Secondly, okay, let's say it's real and you just told me about it.
[00:15:40]  What am I doing with that information?
[00:15:41]  Yeah.
[00:15:42]  How is that informing my parenting?
[00:15:43]  I know there's pedophiles.
[00:15:45]  I'm always going to be doing my best on that.
[00:15:48]  I don't know what, like, how's this related to human trafficking?
[00:15:51]  He's trying to make us feel like there's a manual out there.
[00:15:54]  There's so many of them out there.
[00:15:55]  They're looking for your kids on the phones and all that.
[00:15:57]  It's a gateway to being trafficked.
[00:16:00]  Yeah.
[00:16:00]  It's just maximal fear.
[00:16:02]  You know, it's, I think it's the emotions because people, when they're afraid of this really disgusting, disturbing stuff, I mean, it's hard to say like, oh, no, I don't want to donate money to stop that.
[00:16:12]  You know, they're not going to be as critical when you've activated that fear response, I don't think.
[00:16:17]  Yep, 100%.
[00:16:19]  Let's get to one more.
[00:16:21]  And again, this, this worldview is so convenient that it's like, and here's why you never hear about anything.
[00:16:26]  We've got another one of those here.
[00:16:28]  I'm just going to keep going.
[00:16:30]  The biggest part of this problem is the parents themselves.
[00:16:34]  I'm speaking to myself.
[00:16:36]  Sure.
[00:16:36]  Because, guys, I got to see the dark side of this.
[00:16:38]  And I just want, because we're never going to be able to rescue all these kids.
[00:16:42]  There are too many children being victimized.
[00:16:43]  Law enforcement is never going to be able to rescue them in time and before they're hurt.
[00:16:48]  I promise you we're going to do everything we can to get to them and find them, but we will never be able to rescue our way out of this.
[00:16:54]  The only way we're going to stop this problem is once parents become aware and once parents wake up and start parenting again.
[00:17:00]  And what happens is exploitation, pedophilia, and sexual extortion are so prevalent in society right now.
[00:17:12]  Parents don't want to be the parents that allowed that to happen, right?
[00:17:16]  Right.
[00:17:17]  Their community, they don't want anyone to know that they allow their child to be exploited or extorted or victimized by anyone, right?
[00:17:25]  We can't tell this.
[00:17:26]  We have to keep it quiet.
[00:17:28]  One, and they don't want their child to be known as a child that this happened to.
[00:17:34]  So what we're seeing happen is, is parents, because of society, that scarlet letter, whatever you want to call it, aren't speaking out about it.
[00:17:43]  Very few people speak out about it.
[00:17:45]  And sadly, these days, the only ones that are speaking out about it and saying that this is a problem are the ones whose kids commit suicide because now their kid's gone.
[00:17:54]  Yeah.
[00:17:55]  And they're trying to do something.
[00:17:57]  Here in Nashville, seven to nine cases of sexual extortion, new ones are reported every week.
[00:18:03]  That's just what's reported.
[00:18:04]  Golly.
[00:18:06]  Yeah.
[00:18:06]  So conveniently, no one talks about it because they're too embarrassed.
[00:18:09]  And like, once again, like, I guess when it comes to sexual abuse, like there's definitely, that's true to an extent.
[00:18:17]  Like, that's a lot of the reason why the church just gotten away with it.
[00:18:21]  You know, people get away with it.
[00:18:22]  Coaches get away with it.
[00:18:24]  You know, all this stuff is, you know, people don't speak up.
[00:18:26]  But I just think the worldview that he's painting, the world building he's doing is just, it seems so much more sinister than that.
[00:18:35]  It seems like there's just all kinds of pedophiles downloading manuals of how to pedophile and extorting your kids.
[00:18:40]  And then your response would be like, that's weird.
[00:18:42]  I've never heard of that.
[00:18:42]  Well, they don't want to talk about it.
[00:18:44]  And it's like, doesn't it seem a little sketchy?
[00:18:49]  Yeah.
[00:18:49]  It's strange.
[00:18:50]  Doesn't this seem not great?
[00:18:53]  I don't know.
[00:18:53]  Doesn't this seem like fundraising on fears?
[00:18:58]  And the way you talk there, like, oh, we're never going to rescue all of them.
[00:19:01]  Are you rescuing any of them?
[00:19:02]  Yeah.
[00:19:02]  I feel like, and again, I don't know anything for sure, but I feel like constantly there's these statements made that conveniently don't claim that he's rescuing anyone, but they sort of imply it by the opposite, where they're saying like, look, we can't rescue all of them.
[00:19:19]  That's true.
[00:19:21]  It would imply that you're rescuing a lot of them or some of them.
[00:19:24]  Yeah.
[00:19:24]  But technically speaking, he didn't say that.
[00:19:26]  It does feel a little ethically gross to be pulling for money by making people terrified.
[00:19:37]  Yeah.
[00:19:37]  Maybe I'm too skeptical, but if you listen to everything he's saying, it really all leans toward this world building without ever fully making any claims that they're going and busting people, but strongly implying it.
[00:19:52]  And later on, we're going to see just how much the people he's talking to think he's actively like busting indoors and saving kids.
[00:20:00]  Right.
[00:20:01]  Look, Lydia and I can't rescue all these kids.
[00:20:03]  You know, there's only so many that we can physically rescue.
[00:20:08]  Yes.
[00:20:09]  And if you want to contribute to our cause, patreon.com slash where there's woke.
[00:20:14]  Because there are a lot of pedophiles that need to be hunted down.
[00:20:18]  And Lydia and I can only hunt down so many.
[00:20:20]  We can do some.
[00:20:21]  No, you can't say that.
[00:20:22]  We can only hunt down some.
[00:20:23]  You can do question mark.
[00:20:27]  You're not very good at this.
[00:20:28]  You're not a good liar.
[00:20:29]  I'm not.
[00:20:30]  You have to say something that like implies that there, look, there are so many more.
[00:20:36]  There are so many more to be hunted down.
[00:20:38]  There are.
[00:20:39]  You know, there's just so many more.
[00:20:41]  It's unending, which is why we need your support more.
[00:20:43]  Our work never ends.
[00:20:44]  That's a good one.
[00:20:46]  Our work here never ends in terms of like how many pedophiles there are, how many need to be hunted down still.
[00:20:54]  Donate today to help us get closer.

=== Need for Accountability (06:50) ===

[00:20:56]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:20:58]  I'll do the creative statements that leave out the thing and you do the pitch for the money.
[00:21:02]  That's good.
[00:21:03]  We've divided our labor.
[00:21:04]  I feel like you weren't getting the bit.
[00:21:12]  Let's continue our video here.
[00:21:15]  These days, the only ones that are speaking out about it and saying that this is a problem are the ones whose kids commit suicide because now their kid's gone.
[00:21:24]  Yeah.
[00:21:24]  And they're trying to do something.
[00:21:26]  Here in Nashville, seven to nine cases of sexual extortion, new ones are reported every week.
[00:21:32]  That's just what's reported.
[00:21:33]  Golly.
[00:21:34]  Here in Nashville.
[00:21:36]  And that's what's happening in the suburbs.
[00:21:37]  I bet probably more are not reported than...
[00:21:40]  Oh, many, many, many more.
[00:21:41]  Because a lot of times what they do, they're not looking for kids whose parents have no money.
[00:21:46]  They're looking for kids that have everything to lose and the parents have everything to lose because they know mom and dad will wire 15, 20 grand real quick to make those pictures or the decisions that the kids made being groomed and manipulated by adult go away.
[00:21:58]  Well, if you recall recently, a soccer coach in Franklin, which is a nice suburb, was accused, I think, over the last 20 years.
[00:22:08]  He left his phone somewhere and the people at that place picked his phone up and saw all of these kids that he had drugged and raped.
[00:22:16]  And this went on for 20 years.
[00:22:18]  And he was a Franklin soccer coach.
[00:22:20]  And then a cheerleading coach came out as well.
[00:22:22]  And Franklin was also doing the same thing.
[00:22:24]  So, I mean, that's right there.
[00:22:26]  Just how could they not be aware of?
[00:22:29]  Yeah.
[00:22:29]  So that's a huge problem.
[00:22:31]  Yeah.
[00:22:32]  It's not trafficking.
[00:22:33]  This is a huge problem.
[00:22:35]  And look, I've gone deep down some rabbit holes on this.
[00:22:40]  And you did like an investigation on the on some different things later.
[00:22:46]  And like, it seems to me that this organization is taking in a lot of money with a strong implication that they're doing like military-esque rescuing of kids.
[00:22:57]  Yes.
[00:22:57]  Maybe, and I'm sure they're not like directly, you know, saying that, but like, it feels like that's the impression.
[00:23:04]  I mean, the imagery on their website and everything, right?
[00:23:07]  Tactical teens, all this stuff.
[00:23:09]  And they do like, in fairness, we go to their tax stuff and it's like, we, we educated some people.
[00:23:14]  You know, it's like, that's all, yeah, all their forms say is they have to, no, it's even awareness was what they're doing.
[00:23:19]  Right, right, right, yeah.
[00:23:20]  And so by the letter of the law, like, I'm not accusing anyone of doing anything illegal because I have no evidence of that by the letter of the law.
[00:23:27]  Like, I'm just very clear.
[00:23:29]  I have no evidence, not accusing anyone of doing anything illegal.
[00:23:32]  But by the spirit of the thing, in terms of this being a grift, how did we get from people are being trafficked all the time?
[00:23:41]  It's tactical.
[00:23:42]  I was a Marine or whatever Green Beret, blah, blah, blah.
[00:23:45]  And now we're like, yeah, there's a soccer coach.
[00:23:48]  Yeah.
[00:23:48]  It's like, yeah, there is that.
[00:23:50]  I'm all for raising awareness of that and like tackling the problem of like sex abuse against kids by trusted individuals in the community is a huge problem.
[00:24:01]  Are we green bereting our way out of that problem?
[00:24:04]  Are we flying a helicopter to the soccer coach and then like jumping out of it and like, you know, arresting them or something?
[00:24:10]  Like, that's not it.
[00:24:11]  Yeah.
[00:24:12]  No, it's crazy.
[00:24:13]  So pedophilia traditionally was only carried out through the family, right?
[00:24:20]  You know, or by with and through the family.
[00:24:22]  You had to get close to the family and then we could start doing sports and, you know, all these other things to get outside and then we find out, oh, it's Larry Nasser, the doctor for the gymnasts is, you know, molesting and raping these girls or, you know, it's the coach or the preacher or the Sunday school teacher because these people had access to our children.
[00:24:40]  And it's horrible.
[00:24:42]  It's atrocious.
[00:24:43]  And the fact that this isn't recognized sooner, it can just go to show you this guy got away with that in Franklin, Tennessee for 20 years.
[00:24:51]  How many, how many of those girls probably might have even said something and somebody would say, oh, I know him.
[00:24:56]  That can't be the case.
[00:24:58]  The victim shaming and all that is very real.
[00:25:01]  Boy, it's almost like we need a Me Too type movement.
[00:25:06]  Crazy.
[00:25:06]  I'm in a bizarro world where you've come in with your, you're advertising on the Republican MAGA Charlie Kirk America Fest about the militaristic, let's help the traffickers of kids.
[00:25:19]  And then what you're coming to is actually just Me Too talking points that you won't uphold actually in life.
[00:25:26]  Yeah, that you don't listen to for anyone where you think they might be conservative at all.
[00:25:30]  Right.
[00:25:31]  Then you don't listen to it.
[00:25:32]  It's like, what are we, what are we doing here?
[00:25:34]  I think it's also really interesting that like, I don't see these groups being like really vocal with regard to the Epstein files.
[00:25:42]  Hey, yeah.
[00:25:43]  Demonstrate.
[00:25:43]  Hey, fly a helicopter there.
[00:25:45]  Yeah.
[00:25:45]  Coordinated trafficking, abuse and stuff because it might implicate someone that they really like, Donald Trump.
[00:25:52]  And it's interesting because a lot of them do find a way to kind of talk about the Epstein list.
[00:25:58]  And to be fair, a lot of them are pretty mad at Trump over this.
[00:26:01]  Yeah, some of them, like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[00:26:03]  But like, yeah, this organization, it's weird that that hasn't come up.
[00:26:06]  I, man, I can't remember if Epstein comes up in this or not.
[00:26:09]  It's possible Epstein comes up in this.
[00:26:12]  But yeah, it's like you're just coming back around to things that in no way have a military or even police solution.
[00:26:20]  Right.
[00:26:20]  Like, honestly, the solution to Larry Nasser isn't the police.
[00:26:24]  I mean, that might be like the last step.
[00:26:25]  Right.
[00:26:26]  But the solution to prevention is not police patrolling gymnastics.
[00:26:30]  You know, like it's recognizing that predators prey on trust and all that.
[00:26:36]  And like the thing we need to do is use a lot of the tools we might be equipped with from Me Too or other, I don't know, psychology, other writings, other research, actual science about how this happens, which they've all, I'm sure, defunded or don't support.
[00:26:51]  Yeah.
[00:26:51]  And actually sticking to the science and not relying on things like authority.
[00:26:56]  See, that's the thing.
[00:26:56]  Like when you look at the two parties, the Republicans are all about authority.
[00:27:01]  Like it's just they're more, I mean, it's literally authoritarian, but it's also just their mindset tends to be more about authority.
[00:27:06]  It's a God is the big authority.
[00:27:08]  Yeah.
[00:27:09]  Trump's the big authority.
[00:27:10]  We want to be the big bad authority in the world stage.
[00:27:12]  And like too much deference to authority is a major problem when it comes to this kind of abuse.
[00:27:17]  That's like literally what they're describing here.
[00:27:19]  Whereas the left, I think, is less about that.
[00:27:22]  And the left is, therefore, I think maybe the better place for this kind of activism.
[00:27:27]  And like, if you actually believed in this, maybe team up with that, you know, like if you want to actually inform, if they were trying to like, I don't know, inform more people about very practical things about how sex abuse happens, what to look for, and it was actually good information, then like, sure, you know, that's fine.
[00:27:44]  Yeah.
[00:27:45]  And people try to keep it covered up.

=== War Drugs Regulation (15:08) ===

[00:27:46]  Not here in Franklin, Tennessee.
[00:27:48]  This is the nicest, you know, suburb in the state of the school, the county, all that.
[00:27:54]  Nobody, that's, it's bad for everybody when that comes out.
[00:27:56]  It is.
[00:27:57]  And unfortunately, we've got to stop doing this because the thing is, and this is, I'm glad you brought that up.
[00:28:03]  He did that for 20 years physically in Franklin, Tennessee.
[00:28:09]  Now imagine that these children have cell phones and iPads now.
[00:28:14]  Imagine how many more children are being victimized right here that we don't know about.
[00:28:19]  I can tell you right now, at any given time in the state of Tennessee, there's seven to eight, seven to eight thousand people every day uploading and downloading the graphic sexual abuse of a child.
[00:28:30]  So no, that's not true.
[00:28:34]  That would mean like, that would be more than like what people estimate is for the entire United States.
[00:28:40]  Yeah, I was going to say, how many people are even in that location?
[00:28:44]  Yeah.
[00:28:44]  And then what percentage of the population then is he saying are participating in this daily?
[00:28:50]  Yeah.
[00:28:51]  Well, and this is the other thing.
[00:28:53]  I try to fact check some stuff and it's hard because like so much of the facts come from the kinds of organizations that, you know, and I don't know, I'm not casting aspersions or whatever, but like once again, the kind of organizations that are kind of motivated to present a big problem.
[00:29:08]  Like, so do you know anything about NMEC, National Center for Missing Exploited Children?
[00:29:14]  I don't think so.
[00:29:15]  Like, I think it's fine, but I don't know.
[00:29:17]  Like, I don't, they don't tell me any of their ways they get these numbers really that I found.
[00:29:23]  You know, I haven't looked super hard, but in the reports, it just gives me numbers.
[00:29:26]  It doesn't tell me like what it really.
[00:29:28]  Yeah.
[00:29:29]  I guess they have a tip line.
[00:29:30]  So it's like cyber tip line reports.
[00:29:34]  And so there are all these reports and they're cyber tip line.
[00:29:37]  We don't have access to them.
[00:29:38]  I don't have any reason to believe they'd be like making that up, but I also don't have any reason to know what percent of those are actually legitimate, what percent of those are duplicative.
[00:29:47]  And we've also seen instances in which there's this kind of paranoia that erupts on social media too, like the whole Wayfair, you know, the furniture company and that kids are being trafficked.
[00:30:00]  I bet there were a lot of reports to a cyber tip line during that.
[00:30:04]  Right, exactly.
[00:30:04]  And so it's hard when we know that this is an area that is, it's so emotional, understandably so for people.
[00:30:12]  And how do we really drill down to see what is the true impact of this?
[00:30:18]  And then how do we tackle it in an evidence-based way?
[00:30:22]  And I don't know that we know that because of organizations like this that stand to profit potentially from the problem maybe being portrayed bigger than it is.
[00:30:31]  I don't know.
[00:30:32]  Yeah, totally.
[00:30:33]  And I'm seeing in this PDF from this organization, they actually make it part of their thing to complain.
[00:30:39]  Like it says in 2023, 3.8% of cyber tip line reports submitted by the tech industry contained such little information that was not possible for NCMEC to determine where the offense occurred or the appropriate law enforcement agency.
[00:30:52]  And then it says among companies that made at least 100 reports in 2023, more than 80% of the reports submitted by the companies listed below lacked adequate information to determine a location.
[00:31:04]  Like, I don't, I don't know what this is.
[00:31:05]  I don't know.
[00:31:06]  What is this information?
[00:31:08]  I don't know.
[00:31:08]  All this is to say, when I'm trying to like look for numbers, it's not super easy to know what's going to be actual good numbers and know what's just parroted talking points, especially when you see what they've done with the human trafficking ones, which are wildly overblown.
[00:31:24]  Right.
[00:31:24]  But he said seven to 8,000 people a day are uploading and downloading in Tennessee child sex abuse.
[00:31:32]  It's 7 to 8,000 files are being downloaded.
[00:31:37]  Like, like maybe.
[00:31:38]  He said people, but I know, I know.
[00:31:40]  But I'm trying to like make sense of the number that he's giving and say like, okay, maybe the number is accurate, but the noun is inaccurate.
[00:31:49]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:31:50]  I mean, it's just not.
[00:31:52]  Or it's just all inaccurate.
[00:31:53]  I don't know.
[00:31:54]  Yeah, it's highly doubtful.
[00:31:56]  Like that would be more than the number.
[00:31:58]  Like even with this source, I think the estimate is like, for one, it says 90% of reports involving CSAM upload were from users outside the U.S.
[00:32:10]  So like that already takes a lot.
[00:32:12]  I'm going to extrapolate that out.
[00:32:13]  And if there's 7,000 to 8,000 people within this one particular area, within this one particular state, within this one particular country.
[00:32:21]  Yeah.
[00:32:21]  Yeah.
[00:32:21]  And so Tennessee, in terms of this, again, the cyber tip, again, I don't know how reliable it is, but it's one of the few things I can find.
[00:32:28]  The cyber tip thing is like thousands or tens of thousands per year in Tennessee.
[00:32:33]  So there's no way it is seven to eight thousand per day.
[00:32:36]  That's just silly.
[00:32:38]  Yeah.
[00:32:38]  But you know, it sounds scary.
[00:32:40]  I think also the other piece of that too is if you are able to so easily identify how many people are doing this in a particular day in a particular county, then why aren't they being arrested?
[00:32:51]  Yeah.
[00:32:51]  I mean, this, to be fair, he said the state in the state.
[00:32:53]  Oh, I thought he said it in Franklin.
[00:32:54]  Yeah, actually, there were, I think there were, so there were some that was like seven to eight reports of sex stortion in the county.
[00:33:01]  I think that was the one that was the county.
[00:33:03]  That one might be true.
[00:33:05]  I can't, again, it's so hyper-specific.
[00:33:07]  Yeah.
[00:33:07]  I don't know where he's getting that per se.
[00:33:10]  Maybe he, I mean, if they're interfacing with law enforcement, I'll go ahead and say it's entirely possible he's got some numbers from them.
[00:33:16]  Yeah.
[00:33:17]  But again, like, so say it's the state, then seven to eight thousand people are downloading.
[00:33:21]  Well, it's definitely not that.
[00:33:22]  That one's right.
[00:33:23]  No, no, I know.
[00:33:23]  And so I just want to indicate, again, another reason we know that that's not accurate is if they're aware of the number per day within the particular state, like that's that's a lot of people.
[00:33:34]  Those people would be arrested.
[00:33:35]  Like if you can see the number of people, I'm sure, I'm sure you can drill down.
[00:33:41]  If you know they're within the state, you can kind of keep figuring it out and at least arrest a thousand people from the seven to eight thousand.
[00:33:49]  So it's just, it's nonsense.
[00:33:51]  Well, and the sex stortion thing, definitely a thing, definitely a problem.
[00:33:54]  Yeah.
[00:33:54]  I don't know what they're doing about it.
[00:33:56]  I mean, with a military approach, it just sounds like another internet safety thing.
[00:34:00]  It sounds like something we need more regulation on.
[00:34:03]  We need more.
[00:34:04]  I think we probably do need more resources in stopping abuse online.
[00:34:08]  But I also, I mean, again, I say it and I'm joking less every day.
[00:34:12]  I think the internet is bad and we should get rid of most of it.
[00:34:15]  And I would be heavily in support of legislation or something to try to curb this.
[00:34:22]  And that gets problematic.
[00:34:23]  And often it'll like also get rid of like sex workers and a bunch of stuff.
[00:34:27]  Like it's usually very badly done.
[00:34:29]  But the point is, I don't think I need to donate to a paramilitary organization to fix that problem.
[00:34:35]  Oftentimes things that get labeled as sex stortion, I mean, I don't want to say oftentimes, maybe sometimes that is happening between like two underage kids.
[00:34:44]  I mean, it's not necessarily that it's an adult extorting somebody for sure.
[00:34:49]  I mean, either way, either way, it's bad.
[00:34:51]  But I think, again, it's this idea that you're going to send the military to go and like go after this 16-year-old teenage kid who was like, if you, you know, don't do this, I'm going to share your needs with my friends.
[00:35:03]  And another thing, there's some really, really like disturbing examples that this other guy that I might get to brings up.
[00:35:11]  And I don't doubt that some of them are real, but it's also like, it just strikes me as like there are really awful, gruesome crimes probably every day in this country.
[00:35:21]  It's awful.
[00:35:22]  If you are constantly bombarded with those, I bet it would be bad for your psychology.
[00:35:27]  And it would be bad for your brain.
[00:35:29]  And psychologically, you would perceive that there's all these threats everywhere and there's all these whatevers.
[00:35:34]  And it's like, I want us to have a proper idea of it.
[00:35:37]  And I really hope, you know what we also need?
[00:35:40]  Competent people at the FBI.
[00:35:41]  Yeah.
[00:35:42]  There's a really, really bad group that I might talk about online that got, I think, overblown by some of these people, but is also real.
[00:35:49]  And like the people behind it were absolutely awful.
[00:35:51]  Some of the worst nihilistic people.
[00:35:53]  You didn't need to overblow it.
[00:35:54]  Like they were already bad.
[00:35:56]  Well, you kind of do.
[00:35:57]  Like it's not that they're overblowing this, like the examples that they're talking about are horrible, but they make it sound like there's thousands upon thousands in an organized ring.
[00:36:07]  Right.
[00:36:08]  When I went to look at the FBI indictments and it's like, it was pretty much like two guys.
[00:36:14]  And then there's other people participating.
[00:36:15]  Yeah.
[00:36:16]  But they got like the two organizers and that pretty much killed that group.
[00:36:20]  And then there's like splinter groups, but I don't know.
[00:36:22]  I look, I would love to know the accurate numbers.
[00:36:25]  Maybe there's dozens, maybe there's hundreds.
[00:36:27]  From reading a couple indictments, I don't get the feeling that it's like tens of thousands.
[00:36:32]  Like, are there that many, first off, like technically online, absolute evil people online?
[00:36:39]  Maybe there, maybe, I don't know, maybe there are.
[00:36:41]  I don't know.
[00:36:42]  But it's like, it just feels like inducing a climate of fear.
[00:36:45]  And the thing we actually need, once again, is competent people.
[00:36:48]  This is, this is the thing, as anti-like police as I often am, this is what I do want the FBI for.
[00:36:55]  We need competent people.
[00:36:56]  And I go to this particular indictment that I might get to later.
[00:36:59]  And it's like, well, Kash Patel announces this thing.
[00:37:01]  I'm like, oh, great.
[00:37:02]  I'm sure Kash Patel is really honest.
[00:37:05]  They're in good hands.
[00:37:05]  Yeah.
[00:37:06]  It's like, I don't have any specific reason to think that anyone did a bad job, but I also would be worried without all the talent that would leave because they don't like the fascist regime.
[00:37:17]  So once again, to me, it feels like supporting competent people would be a good way to fight this, competent people in the FBI.
[00:37:24]  And maybe a way to have that is to have a Democrat in office and not someone who points podcasters to be in charge of the FBI.
[00:37:31]  As much as you would like to be.
[00:37:33]  Yeah.
[00:37:34]  Unless you want to put me.
[00:37:35]  No, I'd be terrible at that.
[00:37:36]  That's that we know of on the open internet that are not using security, that are not trying to hide their traffic.
[00:37:41]  Seven to eight thousand people a day here in Tennessee.
[00:37:44]  No.
[00:37:44]  I could drop a pin on their houses.
[00:37:46]  You can't?
[00:37:47]  Oh, then go arrest them.
[00:37:48]  Sorry.
[00:37:48]  Why aren't they, oh, well, here's the using security that are not trying to hide their traffic.
[00:37:53]  Seven to eight thousand people a day here in Tennessee.
[00:37:56]  And I could drop a pin on their houses.
[00:37:58]  Wow.
[00:37:59]  Law enforcement's so overwhelmed, they generally ignore this.
[00:38:03]  But what you see is people that are downloading this and showing these files.
[00:38:08]  There is no chance that you're saying, here's the evidence.
[00:38:11]  Here's their location.
[00:38:12]  Here's their identity.
[00:38:13]  They haven't put any security up with regards to their internet traffic.
[00:38:16]  So we know 100% sure it's them and that here's all the things that they downloaded.
[00:38:20]  And law enforcement's going to be like, sorry, too busy.
[00:38:23]  Yeah.
[00:38:24]  I mean, I'm pretty sure.
[00:38:25]  There's no way.
[00:38:27]  If that were true, something would happen.
[00:38:29]  One thing I actually, I could be wrong.
[00:38:32]  One thing I get the impression that police are pretty serious about is child sex abuse material.
[00:38:37]  Oh, yeah.
[00:38:38]  I know there's a lot of feelings.
[00:38:39]  Don't get me wrong, but like, I don't know.
[00:38:41]  I get the impression that if they have solid information on that, they go and they go hard.
[00:38:47]  And sometimes they go too hard where like a 17-year-old is with a 17-year-old and they have to be a sex offender now.
[00:38:52]  Like some to the point where they go that hard.
[00:38:54]  Like we know those examples.
[00:38:56]  I think they go pretty hard on this.
[00:38:58]  I don't know.
[00:38:59]  It would be surprising if 7,000 to 8,000 a day and he could put pins on their houses in just Tennessee.
[00:39:05]  And the police are like, nah, just we're too busy.
[00:39:08]  Yeah.
[00:39:08]  Have you seen my calendar?
[00:39:10]  Yeah.
[00:39:10]  I think the other thing too is if that were true, you could actually get that to change by going to talk to the state legislature in Tennessee and being like, hey, from all the work that we've done, we've identified some stuff, but we need more resources within, you know, these various counties to help go after folks.
[00:39:28]  And he's not doing that.
[00:39:29]  He's just talking about it on a podcast.
[00:39:31]  Yeah.
[00:39:31]  But what we found, these people that are, you know, downloading this and sharing these files usually are victimizing children too.
[00:39:40]  So this is just a crime set that we've swept under the rug that we have not gotten behind law enforcement about.
[00:39:48]  And here's one of the biggest reasons for it outside of parents hiding it.
[00:39:51]  Parents hid it is there's no money in it.
[00:39:55]  You know, you can fight the war on drugs.
[00:39:56]  You can seize assets, take cars, take all the stuff that they got with their drug money.
[00:40:01]  And then law enforcement can sell the cars and put a stuff in auction.
[00:40:05]  And it's just a self-feeding hamster will, the war on drugs.
[00:40:09]  I didn't even think about that.
[00:40:11]  There's no money in it.
[00:40:13]  So why are they going to scale it?
[00:40:15]  They can fight drugs all day, but you know what?
[00:40:17]  We spend $40 billion a year, $40 billion a year to combat the war on drugs here in the United States from the federal level.
[00:40:24]  God knows how much at every state level.
[00:40:27]  And I can buy drugs pretty much every party at any place or any bar that I've ever gone to.
[00:40:32]  Fentanyl in the past few years has killed more people than the Vietnam War.
[00:40:36]  Yeah.
[00:40:37]  And, you know, Nashville last year, there were almost 800 fentanyl overdose deaths.
[00:40:41]  Have you ever heard that publicly?
[00:40:43]  No.
[00:40:44]  There were over 6,000 responses to fentanyl overdoses and 55,000 hits of Narcan given out here in Nashville in Davidson County.
[00:40:52]  Yeah.
[00:40:53]  So a quick check on that.
[00:40:54]  Some of those numbers are right, but the 55,000 Narcan, I don't, how would you know that?
[00:40:59]  Like, I can't find a source for it.
[00:41:00]  It's not reported when you Narcan someone.
[00:41:03]  And that seems like a really high number.
[00:41:05]  So I, again, citation needed.
[00:41:07]  I don't know, maybe.
[00:41:08]  Has any of that been on the news?
[00:41:09]  Nothing.
[00:41:10]  No.
[00:41:10]  So how are you saying?
[00:41:11]  So is it shocking to think that, you know, trafficking, child exploitation, all that?
[00:41:16]  Is it shocking to think that it's not on the news?
[00:41:19]  What?
[00:41:19]  The Nashville Police Department just canceled their human trafficking unit.
[00:41:23]  Not true.
[00:41:24]  Canceled it.
[00:41:24]  City Council did that.
[00:41:25]  No way.
[00:41:26]  No, it's it's just like and the the public just seems to not want to do anything about it and that's what blows my mind.
[00:41:34]  Yeah, no, that's also a claim that's not true.
[00:41:36]  I don't even know where he got that.
[00:41:38]  I googled it.
[00:41:38]  There's nothing like it doesn't exist.
[00:41:40]  There are still active investigations, you know, like there's teams working on that.
[00:41:45]  I don't think news to me.
[00:41:47]  Yeah, I don't think they have that literal name.
[00:41:49]  So I don't, I don't know what he's even saying.
[00:41:52]  I also just find it so incredibly cynical.
[00:41:55]  And, you know, to be fair, I will go off about police and parking tickets and speak to kids, right?
[00:42:01]  Like that's what they do when they want to make their money.
[00:42:04]  I find it really, really cynical and horrible that you're going to say there's no money in going after people who are abusing children.
[00:42:14]  And so police just won't go after people who are abusing children.
[00:42:18]  And I cannot get on that train.
[00:42:20]  I just find that shocking.
[00:42:23]  And I feel like it's just another way to try.
[00:42:26]  And if the police aren't going to do it, then we have to.
[00:42:29]  This paramilitary group has to.
[00:42:32]  So give us money so we can go do it.
[00:42:34]  Yeah.
[00:42:34]  It's just like, again, a climate of fear that you're building.
[00:42:37]  And I think there's certainly truth.
[00:42:39]  Obviously, look, we're going to agree all day on the war on drugs stuff.
[00:42:42]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:42:43]  Like, that's stupid that we're spending so much on the war on drugs.
[00:42:46]  And I would agree that there might be financial incentives in terms of forfeited assets.
[00:42:50]  I don't know about that.
[00:42:51]  I don't know if that's like court cases about stuff like that, though, too, right?

=== Operation Lightshine Task Force (04:11) ===

[00:42:55]  Like that things get managed.
[00:42:57]  Yeah, they pretty much get it.
[00:42:59]  I wouldn't be surprised if there's incentive there.
[00:43:03]  But also, I don't even think you need that.
[00:43:04]  They just like the war on drugs crap.
[00:43:06]  They're just doing war on drugs.
[00:43:08]  I don't think anyone is a big fan of child sex abuse material and child molesters and stuff.
[00:43:14]  Like that's a thing that typically those law enforcement types are like, oh, I'm going to kill him.
[00:43:18]  I'm going to do visual animal justice.
[00:43:20]  Exactly.
[00:43:20]  This guy is like every single police officer when it comes to this.
[00:43:24]  This also exacerbates part of the problem, right?
[00:43:26]  If you are putting forward in like a public speaking opportunity and saying the police aren't going to care if your kid is being abused, now you're just increasing the numbers of things that are going to go unreported because you think you're never going to get justice through the police department or something.
[00:43:44]  I think that he is contributing to the very problem he says that he is so concerned about.
[00:43:49]  And I hope he can reflect on that at some point.
[00:43:52]  Nat, if you're listening.
[00:43:53]  The only thing I can find that he's talking about with this, again, quote, the Nashville Police Department just canceled their human trafficking unit.
[00:44:02]  City council did that.
[00:44:04]  The only thing I can find is that MNPD, Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, did like a restructuring January 17th, 2023.
[00:44:14]  So that would have been six months before this interview.
[00:44:18]  And this is interesting.
[00:44:21]  With January being Human Trafficking Prevention Month.
[00:44:25]  So already, like, what?
[00:44:26]  Okay, sounds like they're really into human trafficking prevention.
[00:44:29]  Chief John Drake today announced the MNPD plans to join the Alt Caps Intercept Task Force to further human trafficking investigations in Nashville and the Middle Tennessee region.
[00:44:40]  Detective Michaela Moore, an eight-year MNPD veteran who has been assigned to the Investigative Services Bureau for the past four years, is set to join the task force on a full-time basis.
[00:44:50]  The Intercept Task Force, you ready for this?
[00:44:52]  Funded by the nonprofit Operation Lightshine.
[00:44:55]  Oh, Matt, that's your group.
[00:44:58]  Brings together.
[00:44:59]  Yeah, I am baffled by this.
[00:45:01]  Brings together under one roof federal law enforcement agencies, including Homeland Security Investigations, along with local and state agencies to investigate reports of human trafficking and child exploitation.
[00:45:10]  Paramilitary nonprofit organizations.
[00:45:12]  Law enforcement will work closely with the United States Attorney's Office and district attorneys to develop prosecutable cases whenever possible.
[00:45:19]  Quote, the ability of this task force to work across jurisdictional boundaries in their coordinated effort to identify human traffickers and provide immediate assistance to victims is a significant plus as our city and this region continue to grow.
[00:45:31]  Chief Drake said.
[00:45:32]  Due to the work of the Intercept Task Force, Chief Drake said six detectives currently working in the department's human trafficking unit will be able to supplement other areas of the special victims division with four going to the sex crimes unit and two to the internet crimes against children component.
[00:45:48]  So maybe he looked at the fact that like six detectives are kind of leaving quote unquote the human trafficking unit.
[00:45:56]  Yeah.
[00:45:56]  But it's because of your resources.
[00:45:59]  It's because of the Operation Lightshine, which is the organization he just left.
[00:46:03]  Yeah.
[00:46:03]  In this interview, we are to believe he just left it like then, which is weird because this is January 2023.
[00:46:10]  So presumably he was still president then.
[00:46:14]  Yeah, it was still his organization.
[00:46:16]  I don't know, man.
[00:46:16]  This is just weird.
[00:46:17]  It is very weird that he is going to say that city council quote unquote just canceled the human trafficking unit in July 2023 and not mention that like for human trafficking awareness month in January 2023, six months prior to this, Operation Lightshine funded a task force that's specifically to look at this.
[00:46:39]  And not only that, I think it's particularly funny in a bullshit way that he's the thing he's been talking about is for one, there's human trafficking, but then he's been emphasizing like internet sextortion, all that.
[00:46:51]  And that's specifically what those six officers are going to do.
[00:46:54]  They're like moving at this time.
[00:46:57]  I haven't checked like today, but like in January 2023, four of them are going to be assigned to work on sex crimes and two to the internet crimes against children component.

=== Internet Sextortion Taskforce (04:24) ===

[00:47:06]  Yeah.
[00:47:06]  That's specifically what he wants and is by his old group.
[00:47:10]  I don't, I don't know what's happening here.
[00:47:12]  It's fucking, this whole thing's just weird.
[00:47:15]  It's just like, and the public just seems to not want to do anything about it.
[00:47:20]  And that's what blows my mind.
[00:47:23]  You know, we as a society, as parents, are supposed to protect our children.
[00:47:29]  That is our God-given duty to protect the innocent and the most vulnerable.
[00:47:34]  Yeah.
[00:47:35]  And they are the most victimized, exploited, and extorted person, you know, part of our population right now.
[00:47:43]  And we've just turned a blind eye to it.
[00:47:45]  Yeah.
[00:47:46]  Again, world building that nobody's doing anything about this, nobody cares.
[00:47:49]  And I can't help but think that's all built toward we are the solution to this problem that no one else is doing.
[00:47:55]  Yeah.
[00:47:56]  Here's some more we can only do so much type talk like I was joking about last time.
[00:48:01]  Tell every parent this.
[00:48:02]  You know, I thank God I didn't have to experience this as a parent, but I had to experience it as a brother.
[00:48:07]  You don't want to want to know what it's like when your kid goes missing.
[00:48:11]  You don't want to know what that's like.
[00:48:13]  You don't ever want to have to go through that.
[00:48:15]  And as a society, we do have to step up and start to recognize that because my Instagram blows up all the time.
[00:48:23]  Every time a child goes missing or something happens generally within this area, even nationally now.
[00:48:28]  And people are sending it to me.
[00:48:29]  Matt, what can you do?
[00:48:30]  Matt, what can you do?
[00:48:32]  And it's just like, you know, there's only so much that we can do.
[00:48:37]  I'm not in that state.
[00:48:38]  You know, I need law enforcement contacts.
[00:48:40]  I need family contacts.
[00:48:41]  You know, we got to start working this case immediately.
[00:48:43]  There's, you know, this, you know, we got to get going.
[00:48:46]  And, you know, it's, that's the thing is like, it's the, the bat signal thing that goes up, you know, for me and a lot of my, my partners, anytime somebody goes missing and they, and, and I get inundated with it.
[00:48:56]  And I'm like, look, guys, there's only so much of me.
[00:48:58]  There's only so much time in the day.
[00:48:59]  There's only so much time for my partners.
[00:49:01]  We do everything we can to help.
[00:49:02]  But if we're not there, if we don't have relationships with law enforcement, you know, the family won't talk to us.
[00:49:08]  There's, there's not much we can do.
[00:49:10]  Yeah.
[00:49:10]  Or maybe the police should handle it.
[00:49:12]  Yeah.
[00:49:13]  What a weird thing, too.
[00:49:14]  Like, so who's sending you these like missing children things?
[00:49:17]  And the family won't talk to you about the, I don't know, whatever.
[00:49:21]  Yeah.
[00:49:22]  Why would the family talk to some random guy about it?
[00:49:24]  Yeah.
[00:49:25]  It's just, this is fucking weird, man.
[00:49:32]  All right.
[00:49:32]  Well, that's a good one to go out on, but just more of those statements that I just, I, I love.
[00:49:37]  I love how Diabetes and I don't know.
[00:49:39]  I still can't tell if he's doing it on purpose or not.
[00:49:41]  It feels on purpose to be like, hey, there's no end to the trafficking that we need to stop.
[00:49:48]  And it's like, but are you doing it?
[00:49:50]  I don't know.
[00:49:50]  Yeah.
[00:49:51]  So next episode, dare I say even better, even more insane.
[00:49:55]  And I'm going to get that to you folks very soon.
[00:49:58]  Don't worry.
[00:49:58]  Probably right like today as you're hearing this.
[00:50:00]  Especially if you're a patron.
[00:50:01]  Yeah, I'm going for a double release for patrons.
[00:50:03]  I don't normie's, you know, we'll see.
[00:50:05]  We'll see.
[00:50:06]  Normies, we'll see.
[00:50:07]  But next episode, he's going to give us his, he's going to drop into his worldview more, but also it's like Jordan Peterson talking points almost about why girls and boys are doing some of the things girls and boys are doing.
[00:50:22]  It is fun, fun.
[00:50:24]  I can't wait for you to hear it.
[00:50:26]  So, hey, patreon.com/slash where there's woke.
[00:50:28]  If you want to hear that right away, thanks so much to our supporters.
[00:50:30]  Thanks for getting the word out, everybody.
[00:50:32]  Share the show with a friend.
[00:50:32]  Share it with someone you think might be in danger of being trafficked.
[00:50:35]  You know, just be like, hey.
[00:50:36]  Well, that's everybody, right?
[00:50:37]  Exactly.
[00:50:37]  So, share it with me.
[00:50:38]  That's my trick.
[00:50:39]  Oh, okay.
[00:50:41]  No, I didn't, I didn't think of, I didn't think of that.
[00:50:43]  Oh, okay.
[00:50:43]  Now, now I'm going to wink to you and be like, yeah, that's everybody.
[00:50:46]  Exactly.
[00:50:47]  How many people?
[00:50:47]  Like, I'm in the quadruple trafficking club.
[00:50:49]  It's sort of like SNL hosting where you're like, oh, you get a job.
[00:50:52]  I got trafficked five times.
[00:50:53]  Yeah.
[00:50:54]  What do you get?
[00:50:55]  I just a sandwich?
[00:50:56]  I don't.
[00:50:57]  I don't.
[00:50:57]  Yeah, that's a great question.
[00:50:58]  We'll see.
[00:50:59]  All right.
[00:51:00]  Thanks so much.
[00:51:01]  Wokies and, uh, see you next time.
[00:51:23]  Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
[00:51:24]  Are you on MAGA's side?
[00:51:26]  Listen to this Trump voter over here.
[00:51:28]  No, we're on the pro-trafficking side.