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Dec. 24, 2025 - Where There's Woke - Thomas Smith
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WTW106: Oklahoma Christian Idiot Gets a 0, Then Uses Christian Privilege to Get Teacher Fired

Featuring special guest Eli Bosnick!!! An Oklahoma moron wrote some Christian diarrhea for her Psych homework. She got a 0 (which was generous) and then sent the mob after her trans teacher and got them shit canned. Meritocracy!

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What's so scary about the woke mob, how often you just don't see them coming?
Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed.
Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down.
The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything, Instead of go-go boots, the seductress green Eminem will now wear sneakers.
Hello, and welcome to Where There's Woke.
I'm Thomas.
That's Lydia.
And I need to introduce Eli Bosnick returning to the show.
Stop everything.
I'm back.
How are you doing, Eli?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I thought this was serious inquiries only, so I'm adjusting.
I'm adjusting.
Totally different, totally different.
Different part of the sneak first.
Completely different character, actually, that you need to play.
It's true.
You're returning to the scene of the crime of the funniest thing ever put that's ever happened.
That's true.
We're trying to find a way to incorporate that character.
David.
Not to plug our other shows, but I think perhaps David was supplanted by the sex dolls email.
Oh, yeah.
That's so funny.
I was thinking the same thing.
I was like, the hardest I've ever laughed until the latest email that hopefully will be out by the time people hear this on Dear Old Dad.
I haven't edited it yet, so I don't even know what you guys are talking about.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
This is also where I find out Lydia is behind on her work obligations and she's fired.
Genuinely, Lydia.
Like, not only did I laugh harder than I think I've ever laughed on Dear Old Dad's, I would wander for the next two days about my life and remember it and start laughing that hard again.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I've never heard Eli laugh that hard.
Like, honestly, I really, it was like he was me.
He was like an average me.
There were moments of fear for my physical safety.
Wow.
Well, that's dear old dad's.
The other thing I was referring to is, of course, your appearance back just before the world ended for the second time, right?
Was it before Trump?
Yeah, it was the Madison Square Garden event.
Oh my gosh, and that guy that came.
My father.
Everyone needs to go listen to that again because I have.
And it's the funny.
It's my cell phone ring.
Is that guy involved in this story?
Like, is he her dad?
Is he so good?
I wish.
No.
You guys got to get your own podcast first.
We kind of do.
We're just not organized enough.
That's all.
You know, we've got, we swoosh the doodle.
You just need one cast member in constant psychosis.
That's all you have to do.
Well, we've got that.
We just, we need one organized cast member.
Unfortunately, it's Thomas.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's fair.
So this is a story that what's funny is I saw this like the day it happened and was like, oh, we got to do this.
And it was the end of the month where we're like, we needed one more WTW.
I was like, this is perfect.
We'll record a bonus off.
Nobody was talking about it.
Nobody was talking about it yet.
I was like, great, good to go.
And then, of course, we could not get it all done in time.
And so we're like, oh, we'll record it.
And then we heard from every single one of our listeners who emailed us individually.
I was like, you need to cover this.
We're like, God damn it.
Yes, but it would have been cool to have it out before that.
And then I realized, wait, Eli has teaching experience and maybe somehow this guy is involved from the Trump rally thing.
I don't know.
Maybe we can get that involved somehow.
If not that, I've really wanted to get Eli's take and maybe, maybe even an Eli Reid of Stupid Christian Girl.
So this is, of course, an idiot from Oklahoma who decided to turn in feces smeared on paper and was mad that she got a zero.
And that's what we're going to be covering today.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
Let's get it.
All right.
Well, we'll take our first break and that's that's the teaser.
Come back after the break and you can hear Eli reading.
I don't know if it's technically a hate crime.
I don't know.
I think, hey, it's post-Trump 2.0.
We can do what we want.
That's right.
Nobody who writes an essay that includes the words, I'm against bullying, however, gets to be like, that impersonation of me on that podcast.
I'm against bullying whatever is your essay.
I can't believe she's, and she's plagiarizing.
That's what you that's what you, that's your manifesto, Eli.
Thank you.
I'm against bullying.
However, I do it every day.
Anyway, after the break, we'll get to it.
Enjoy these Verizon ads in Spanish.
I think I'm going to join ICE.
I heard an ad and I was like, you know, dude, I'm going to get in on that.
Yeah, they've made their case.
I get it.
And to listen to Sabrina Carpenter, it's awesome.
I did.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I just, it turns out I just needed to hear enough auto ads.
And then now I'm like, I'm going to join ICE.
You've turned it.
Can I tell you my favorite reaction?
God, I'm forgetting who it is.
It might be Hosier.
But you know, whenever Trump's government uses a popular song, the artist does like a fucking milquetoast.
They got to listen to my music too.
Like, I stand against the policy.
But there's one artist, and I don't remember who they are.
I know what you're talking about.
Who was like, you're fascists who should be dead.
I wish you were dead.
I hope if you like my songs, you're killing the people who play this song right now.
Man, it's just completely chillless.
It's on the tip of my tongue.
I know what you're talking about.
It is a dude, definitely, for sure.
All right.
So, hon, why don't you take us into this story?
Okay.
So, so folks might have if you haven't emailed us, folks have likely seen this story go across the interwebs.
Samantha Fulnacki wrote a paper for her lifespan development class.
It was supposed to be a reaction paper to an article that was assigned.
The article here is titled Relations Among Gender Typicality, Peer Relations, and Mental Health During Early Adolescence.
This is an article from February 2014 is when it was published.
So this is not new.
Oh, wow.
This is from before they transed all the kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She wrote a response to this paper, turned it and ended up getting a zero out of 25.
Why do we know about this?
Yeah, I was going to say, our beat here is scores that students got on their little paper thing.
Yeah.
That's what we cover.
Thanks for joining us on Canvas Watch.
Next week, Ryan Murphy of Oklahoma State University got a 16 out of 18 on his physics assignment.
Let's find out what cost him those two points.
Lydia, let's take you to the studio.
It's not even yet, not even their full like grade of the class, just like an individual little paper.
Particular assignment, which after digging is worth 3% of her grade in the entire class.
So why we know about this.
The degree she's not going to use anyway, because she'll just be on Fox News doing forehead watch.
No, I don't know.
The reason we know about this is because when she got the zero, she first talked to the instructor, kind of trying to appeal the first person.
First, she tried to add a zero and a one to the front of it.
And when the instructor declined to change her grade, she went to literally emailed the governor of Oklahoma.
Oh my God.
That was her next step.
Her next step was emailing the governor of Oklahoma and also Teacher Freedom Alliance, which if you're a listener to this pod, you will know is the new home of Ryan Walters.
Ryan Walters!
Bam!
As a reminder, that organization.
I don't know.
I forgot to tell him no soundboard stuff.
Yeah, you guys are using your Zancester, so I don't have access to mine.
I don't know what's on my pod four, so I don't know what I just played, but I got four buttons we're going to find out today.
We're going to fucking find out.
You can't even hear it.
That would be annoying to me.
Why would I expose my ears to that?
Oh, man.
Just as a reminder, Teacher Freedom Alliance is an anti-teachers union union, I guess, that's aimed for K-12.
Yeah.
Yeah, why not?
Why not just have fucking we're called the Rotary Club?
We fucking hate Rotary.
We're just anti-health insurance, health insurance, which is we all agree that if we get sick, to abandon each other.
It's kind of like the opposite of a prayer chain.
But then she has a problem with her car.
And instead of talking to like a car insurance company, she's talking to a health insurance company.
Like this is an organization that has nothing to do with higher ed at all.
They are K through 12.
For a split second, I wasn't sure if that was further part of the story.
Her car got messed up, then she couldn't hear about that.
No, no.
And said the woke did it.
My question is: does the head of that organization have any experience, say, jerking off to Jackie Chan movies that might be essential to helping out students who have been victims of the trans woke identity?
Allegedly.
Yeah, we've covered that, right?
Yes.
And we will hear from him later.
Yes.
We will hear from him later in this episode.
Pin in that.
Ryan Walters is making an appearance, which means my arch nemesis is back, folks.
I thought he was done, but he's not.
Eli, maybe I need to get your help on this.
Can you just declare an arch nemesis?
Lydia's decided that she has an arch nemesis.
And it's Ryan Walters.
Yeah.
Of course it's Ryan Walters.
Isn't an arch nemesis?
Isn't that like, that needs to be like a consensual?
Does it need to be mutual?
Yeah, that's the question.
Can you just have a one-way arch nemesi?
I think the arch would say no.
Why?
Why does the arch mean consent?
I don't, I don't know.
That's true.
But here's the good news, Lydia.
As a woman who wants people to know things, I'm pretty sure Ryan's on board to fight you.
Like you just take two of his biggest boxes.
That's true.
If you were blocking pornography in his office somehow with your body, that's that's strike number trace.
Thanks for going through that, hundred, because I always want to keep us anchored to the fact that we are going to be discussing because it's national fucking news, a girl's grade on a fucking writing assignment.
It's not even an important paper of the year.
It's a reaction, 650 words.
A couple of other things to point out.
She also CC'd a bunch of, and I'm going to use very heavy air quotes here, reporters, including Turning Points USA, which is where this really saw its platform, right?
The Turning Points USA Facebook page, I believe, is the one that first blasted out her story.
And then that got picked up by a bunch of mega pastors and right-wing influencers and stuff like that.
Types of TikTok.
Yeah.
To be clear, she tried to appeal her grade.
And when the answer was, ma'am, this is a Wendy's, she immediately told the Nazi party on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, she's, she's a member of the chapter at Oklahoma University.
So yeah.
Two other things I want to point out about the backstory that I love so fucking much.
So for those of you who haven't taken this kind of course in a psych major, which I did until I realized psychology was hard.
So this is a like childhood development course, right?
So it's very important to understand that this is not a gender studies course.
It's not a sex and sexuality course, right?
And this essay, this that she is reacting to, is foundational information, right?
She might as well be asked to react to the origin of species because essay that she's being asked to react to is not about trans people.
Nope.
Not about homosexuals.
It is about how popular you are based on whether or not you conform to gender stereotypes.
But Fulnecki, Sammy Sams, saw the word gender, knew she had a trans TA and decided to go off on a little right-wing rant about her personal beliefs.
The important thing to understand about this assignment before we get into how stupid she is is that there's absolutely nothing about what do you think about this in the assignment, right?
When you are taking a science class like this and you are asked to read a scientific paper or a far-reaching study like this one, your job is to summarize what you understand from that paper.
They do not ask you for 650 words of your fucking hot take on a 2014 gender.
No, that is so funny because I've obviously, you know, I was kind of saving myself from marriage here and saving myself for this.
And I've seen stuff, I've read stuff, but I would have gathered from just the context clues, and that's why I really glad we fucking do this show.
I would have gathered it was just like a creative writing assignment.
And it was just like, you know, I'll just react to this like gendery article thing.
And I like, I genuinely thought that's what it was.
No.
Why don't I share what the rubric says?
Cause we have that.
It is, as I mentioned, 650 words, double-spaced reaction paper.
No.
I can't, I already can't do that.
Okay.
As a student, I already flunked.
I'm just talking.
You would have only lost 10 points if you turned in something between 620 and 649 words.
Imagine getting that close to the amount of words and not finishing.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a page and a half of her body.
Yeah.
It's an insane short experiment.
This is like a really hard school, I guess.
Yeah, no, you don't have to use a second prompt in the free version of ChatGPT in case you're worried.
I was going to say, that's going to be my first time.
Why doesn't she just have ChatGPT do it like a good student?
Yeah.
I promise you from the very base of my nutsack that Samantha spent 11 hours arguing with ChatGPT to try to get it to write this essay.
To write Christian craft paper.
Like, I'm sorry, Samantha.
I can't be that kind of bigot.
I'm trying.
The rubric includes like possible approaches to the reaction paper.
Basically, you have to demonstrate that you read the article and that you have a thoughtful reaction to the material presented in the article.
The criteria specifically, 10 points.
Is there a clear link back to the assigned article?
Can the reader assess whether the student has read the assigned article?
10 points for the reaction content.
Does the paper provide a reaction, reflection, discussion of some aspect of the article rather than a summary?
And then for five points, clarity of writing, are the main ideas and thoughts organized into a coherent discussion?
Is the writing clear enough to follow without multiple rereadings?
Those are the three elements that are being evaluated here.
Pretty like easy, right?
Pretty easy.
And as I said, like the teaching assistant included as part of the rubric, possible approaches to reaction papers, include and gave eight ideas of how you could respond to something.
One of them is starting a culture war.
Yeah.
The study itself that Eli was talking about, just a little more detail here.
It's actually an experiment that was done with middle school kids to identify not just like their own experience of gender typicality and popularity and likability,
but they also created like these fake middle schoolers like on paper and then used more like masculine coded things or feminine coded things to either align or disalign with gender typicality and then looked at mental health impacts of what happens when a kid is,
you know, you're a boy, but you're not participating in those gender stereotypes of, you know, participating in sports or, you know, whatever, you like painting your nails or something, you know, like what happens with that with your popularity, with your likability.
And then how does that mediate mental health effects?
So it's an actual study?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we're doing, we should be doing actual school here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
I did not gather that from the context of it.
It's so important to understand also that like, while there are certainly things about this paper that can be read as trans or gay coded, that's not what the study is, right?
The study is how much conforming to gender stereotypes affects your popularity and how that popularity affects mental health outcomes.
Like it's the most fucking basic ball roll downhill, run into Domino's study.
And again, 10 points of the 15 points of the paper are just, did you read it?
And Samantha did not read it.
No, no, she saw gender.
I think you're right, Eli, that she saw gender and she just went with it.
Well, and also you could almost imagine that, like, now I don't know, but like you could imagine that study kind of being used by, you know, shitty people to be like, see, you need to conform to gender stereotypes.
Otherwise.
Samantha's got you, Thomas.
Don't worry.
No, but I'm saying is like, it's not necessarily like a super trans-friendly thing.
The values aren't necessarily determined just by that scientific information, right?
Like it's, this isn't, this is, I'm just saying, this isn't like a gender activist thing, it sounds like it's just like good science.
Absolutely.
And I think one of like the examples that they gave were like girls who like computers.
That is not gender typical.
What happens to their likability if they are a kid like that?
And further, then they ask questions about like, well, but what if she's attractive?
How does that come into play?
So there's a lot of really, really interesting things.
What if she takes her glasses off in the third act?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Shakes her hair out.
Yeah.
And you never realized how beautiful.
Yeah.
We're going to spend some time talking about her essay and the assignment and the reaction, all of that stuff.
But I wanted to hear from her first because initially she hadn't really like gone out and done a lot of media.
And obviously now she has.
She's even been recognized by the Oklahoma legislature for being a hero, I guess.
I thought you were just going to say she's been recognized by her forehead, but go ahead.
She has resting, you know, some people don't have maps face.
Yep.
I'm probably being sexist, but that's what her face looks like.
It just looks like there's people who don't have there's something true about eugenics based on the woman who decides to betray her sex versus forehead size.
Riley Gain, giant forehead.
This woman, giant forehead.
Are you ready for my perfect like fucking Colombo moment?
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk, world's largest fucking forehead.
We need to start measuring skulls, but for good.
I think it's because the skull keeps growing to try to make room for more brain.
Like the all the stuff that comes out of your mouth and it's like, wow, they must just need more space back in the brain.
Like a plant that like grew into the ceiling.
It's like, yeah, you need more room for it.
Very interesting.
The cracked concrete of the city streets of Filnecki's forehead.
That's not a crazy theory.
I'm like, I want to hear more.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not ruling it out.
Can I say more scientific than her paper?
Yeah, that's probably accurate.
Yeah.
So this is Samantha Filnecki, Jr. from Missouri originally, attends Oklahoma University now.
She's a psychology major and apparently on the pre-med track.
I was really surprised to read that.
I've like searched to confirm.
In the same way that I'm on the pre-med track.
Sure, yeah.
I'm not there yet.
I'm on the pre-med track in that we own a copy of Ticket to Ride.
There was part of me where it was like, you know, I spent some time on the psychology page for Oklahoma University, like on their actual academic page and like trying to find the syllabus first of all for this class.
And they have a course.
I don't remember what they call it exactly, but they like grouped courses together based on what you might want to pursue later.
And there's a pre-med cluster.
I think it's a cluster is what they say, course clusters.
And I was like, well, are people in the news just saying she was pre-med because this class is in that cluster?
I've seen it enough places and she hasn't like disputed it at all.
So I feel like that would be kind of a big swing, but I'm going to go with it.
Apparently pre-med.
Let's hear from her.
This is via Fox News Digital.
And we're just going to listen to the first couple of minutes.
She obviously goes on, but we only need a little taste.
Ad.
I was going to say, is she sneaking up behind me right now?
Hockey mask.
I was asked to read an article and give my opinion on the article.
And the article was about gender binary and mental health and gender stereotypes, specifically in children, because it's a lifespan development class.
So I was asked to give my opinion and my reaction to the paper.
And prior to this assignment, I've been in the class all semester.
So prior to this assignment, I've gone 100% on every single paper, every writing assignment in that class.
So I did this assignment the same as I would any other in that class.
Be you.
And gave my opinion on gender binary and gender stereotypes.
And that naturally my views are from the Bible and my Christian kind of worldview.
And so that's what I wrote about.
And so I didn't get anything of it.
I turned it in and assumed that I would get in 100 because that's what I've gone in all the other writing assignments.
And so then about a week later, I received a zero on it from the teaching assistant and submission comments saying that my work was offensive, that I need more empathy in my writing.
He, by the way, she misgendered him.
Oh, I didn't.
Oh, okay.
That's important to say to people like me who don't know it.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's why this exists.
Exactly.
The teaching assistant is the instructor for this lifespan development course.
And she is a transgender woman.
And obviously, Samantha Fulnecki misgenders her throughout this entire video.
But I just wanted to get the first one.
Yeah.
No, let's get it right out of the way.
If they had Googled this teaching assistant and my face had popped up, they would have been like, you're lucky he didn't fucking hit you.
Samantha, what are you doing talking back to your graduate teaching assistant?
No, this is, hey, guys, I found an opportunity to pick on a trans person.
Let's do it.
Three, two, one, team, trans folks.
Things like, if I'm going to argue against the consensus of every medical field, every medical field.
Holy crap.
The kid cancer people are like, yeah, we looked at their penises and vaginas and we think that, you know, like every medical field is in on the gender stuff.
I think there's some that don't bother with that personally.
Yeah, she's obviously wildly misconstruing that.
Then I need empirical evidence to back that, but there's no empirical evidence or any evidence required anywhere in the instructions or in our syllabus.
I definitely think that a cut.
Yeah, it was a cut.
Her mouth fell open and a giant bug slid out of her eye socket and said, Earth isn't worth it.
Can we go back out to this?
They cut that.
So I want to set the stage here with just, let's talk about what that assignment was.
I have the study itself, which I'll include for folks in the show notes.
I include it for Samantha.
Yeah, I should.
And then Eli, I have the full essay and maybe we can get a little reading from you about how she approached this.
Oh, absolutely.
There's nothing about gender binary here at all.
That's nonsense from Samantha.
There's nothing about even being gay.
Like this is specifically about how kids express themselves.
And if the way they express themselves is within the stereotype or not, and what happens to their popularity and then their mental health as a result of that potentially.
Wow.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
And Samantha's reaction is, I would like to be an example of the problem.
Sorry, I would like to be an example of the problem.
Well, hers is short enough that I was hoping we could get an Eli reading of it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
No, Eli, I sent over the link over in the Facebook.
Okay, let me.
Yeah, I am in a Facebook chat with the Smiths.
Bee jelly.
Yes, bro.
Past all the nudes.
All right.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Oh, she made it to the full two pages, everybody.
So get ready.
Well, Sherry did better than I would have.
This article was very thought-provoking and caused me to thoroughly evaluate the idea of gender and the role it plays in our society.
The article discussed peers using teasing as a way to enforce gender norms.
I do not necessarily see this as a problem.
God made male and female and made us differently from each other on purpose and for a purpose.
God is very intentional with what he makes.
And I believe trying to change that would only do more harm.
Gender roles and tendencies should not be considered stereotypes.
Women naturally want to do womanly things because God created us with those.
What are you doing in school, idiot?
Womanly desires.
God doesn't want us to even listen to you.
Why are you fucking, why can you even read?
In our hearts.
The same goes for men.
God created men in the, I'm writing my psych paper right now.
Hey, students, if you listen to this podcast, just bring it in, folks.
Bring it in.
Take a knee.
If you ever find yourself writing an academic paper in your psychology class about child development and you find yourself writing the sentence, God created men, just go ahead and take a break.
You've been studying for too long.
It's time to hop onto AI and have someone else write that.
School is not for you.
Do something else.
She continues.
Sorry.
God created men in the image of his courage and strength.
And he created women in the image of his beauty.
He intentionally created women differently than men.
And we should live our lives with that in mind.
But I know what you guys are thinking.
Wait, was that the end?
It's Eli.
No, no, no, there's more.
You're probably thinking, like, okay, Fulnecki, which is your real name?
How do you feel about this?
Right.
Because we've gotten a lot of information.
Yeah, we've gotten a lot of science.
This is with a science facts.
Objective facts about the situation of the universe.
Not a straight science, straight down the middle about who God created man versus womanly measurements.
This is where she opens her heart, not just to the Lord, but to us.
It is frustrating to me when I read articles like this and discussion posts from my classmates of so many people trying to conform to the same mundane opinions so they do not step on people's toes.
I think that it is a cowardly and insincere way to live.
It is important to use, you need to hear the swelling trombones in the background, by the way.
It is important to use the freedom of speech we have been given in this country.
And I personally believe that eliminating gender in our society would be detrimental as it pulls us farther from God's original plan for humans.
It is perfectly normal for kids to follow gender stereotypes because that is how God made us.
The reason so many girls want to feel womanly and care for others in a motherly way is not because they feel pressured to fit into social norms.
It is because God created and chose them to reflect his beauty. and his compassion in that way.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
I'm thinking to yourself, okay, well, that's great.
I'm so glad you opened your heart.
That really feels very scientific.
But does she have any sources?
What's the bibliography life?
I'm so glad you asked.
In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to be alone.
So he created a helper for a man, which is a woman.
Many people assume the word helper in this context to be condescending and offensive to women.
Do you all fucking hear how far from the goddamn scientific society she was asked to read?
I send messages at three in the morning into Thomas.
It made more sense.
That are closer to this literal assignment and promise.
Many people assume that the word helper in this context to be condescending and offensive to women.
However, the original word in Hebrew is Ezerkegnedo.
Wow, we're really getting into, okay, getting some academic thought here.
Yeah.
Do you think anyone else in the class did the original translation of a Hebrew word in their 650-word response?
I doubt it.
Anyways, and directly translates to helper equal to.
Can we stop for just a second so I can repick this?
Because I do just have to point this out.
First of all, there's no fucking version of the Bible she's reading that says helper.
It's help meet.
Help me, yeah.
Because it was a societal stratification.
Right, exactly.
And she knows that.
Also, the original Hebrew, which I do not know what the fuck she did phonetically here, but I went all the way down this rabbit hole to find it out.
It doesn't mean helper equal to.
It means fucking help me, right?
Because there's a word for slave and there's a word for help me.
So just to be clear, even in her weird off-topic rant, she is actually wrong about what she's saying.
Oh, interesting.
Anyways, additionally, God describes himself in the Bible using Ezer Kegnedo or helper.
No, he doesn't.
And he describes his Holy Spirit as our helper as well.
This shows the importance God places on the role of the helper, women's roles.
God does not view women as less significant than men.
He created us with such intentionality and care.
Oh, no, it's not intentional, intentionally.
Oh, yeah.
He created us with such, and I'm used to reading my own writing where I have to correct that shit.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, you don't get, she doesn't get your help.
Yeah.
He created us with such intentionally and care, and he made women in his image of being a helper and in the image of his beauty.
This is the third.
This is a fucking psychology class.
She's a junior in college.
She's a junior?
I assume she's a college.
She was 18 years old and just got into school.
She's a junior and pre-med, supposedly.
Oh my.
Yes.
Keep in mind that, like, if she weren't lying about being pre-med, she would be admitted to med school in the summer of next year.
Wow.
If your doctor walked into the room and was like, he created us with such intentionality, I would grab the nearest Magobi shot and just inject it into my own eyeball.
Oh, my God.
If leaning into that role means that I am following gender stereotypes, then I am happy to be following a stereotype that aligns with the gifts and abilities God gave me as a woman.
As a woman, does it really say as a woman?
I do not think men and women are pressured to be more masculine or feminine.
No, no, yeah, you're just doing it right now.
She's rawdonging it.
She would have done this in a vacuum.
She's literally pressuring people to be more feminine.
You're doing it.
I strongly disagree with the idea from the article that encouraging acceptance of diverse gender expressions could improve students' confidence.
Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders.
There's only one gender, guys.
There are not multiple genders.
Not even two.
Listen to this.
And I want you to consider that if you were sitting on a subway car and you heard someone say this sentence, how quickly you would get.
I would rather someone do one of those dances.
I would rather someone hold me hot.
Turn on the shit.
Oh, shit.
Yes, please.
Every single time.
Think about this and really think about the fact that like 40% of this country is like, that girl deserved a fucking name, man.
That fucking, that lady who done was her boss said he didn't like her because she done, he done, they didn't, because they don't.
Okay, listen to this fucking sentence and think about these are who people want for their doctors.
Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be.
It's demonic and severely harms American youth.
I do not want kids to be teased or bullied in school.
However, pushing the lie that everyone has their own truth and everyone can do whatever they want and be whoever they want is not biblical whatsoever.
Hey, I know you're listening to this podcast.
I just want to jump in real quick to remind you.
I did not make up any of her words just.
I'm just reading that sentence.
A sentence that should be followed with, ow, ow, you tased me.
You tased me.
I just wanted my chipotle.
You tased me.
The Bible says that our lives are not our own, but that our lives and bodies belong to the Lord for his glory.
I live my life based on his truth and firmly believe that there would be less gender issues and insecurities in children.
Less gender issues.
If they were raised knowing that they do not belong to themselves, but they belong to the Lord.
Overall, reading articles.
Time to sum it up.
I have conclusion.
In conclusion.
Have I ever told you guys about I have spoken?
No.
No.
Okay.
So, you know how I'm psychotic and occasionally I get a thing in my head where I'm like, this is true.
And I repeat it until anyone in the world goes, I'm going to Google that.
And it's not true.
Yes.
So we are all aware of that.
You know that.
Here's the thing that got into my head in high school and it reminds me of this essay.
In high school, I do not know where this came from.
It's wildly offensive.
There's no truth to it whatsoever.
I got it into my head in high school that First Nation kids were allowed to end their essays with I have spoken.
What?
Like that that was officially an allowed thing?
It was made up hate crimes.
I think the only other person who believed that in any point in history is Samantha Fulnick, based on how she ends this.
Oh boy.
Overall, reading articles such as this one encouraged me to one day raise my children, knowing that they have a heavenly father who loves them and cherishes them deeply.
Oh man, she got a sting.
And that having their identity firmly rooted in who he is will give them the satisfaction and acceptance that the world can never provide for them.
My prayer for the world.
You're probably wondering what's my prayer for the world.
You know, this is true.
As a professor, no other student put their prayer for the world.
Wow, they must have missed this idea.
That's crazy.
They fucking missed it right there on the rubric.
Five points.
Your prayer for the world.
My prayer for the world and specifically for American society.
Oh, it's good she did that because the prayer for the world in the rubric, it said be specific.
Yeah, no, it's true.
Specificity.
Also, like your prayer for France, come on.
And youth is that they would not believe the lies being spread from Satan that make them believe they are better off as another gender than what God made them.
I pray that they feel God's love and acceptance as who he originally created them to be.
Jesus fucking Christ.
There you go.
That is insanity.
Yeah.
No.
The zero was too good of a grace.
Yes.
This should be an escort out of the class.
If you look back on the rubric, too, clear tie to article.
No, there is not a clear tie to the article.
Reaction content.
Is there some aspect of the article rather than a summary?
There's nothing related to the article.
So that's a zero.
In the way that swelling up, if you're allergic to shellfish is a reaction, right?
Well, and that's a good point because I've seen, again, I've kind of just absorbed some of the zeitgeist on this and I've seen we can get into it, but the debate over like, oh, well, maybe she shouldn't have gotten a zero.
And maybe she, a lot of people are just saying, well, she just was asked to react.
And it's like, okay, but you have to react to the article.
Like you can't be like, this was an article on, I don't fucking know, math or something.
This is an article on like the polar ice caps melting.
And then she gives you this.
That's not a reaction to the article.
You can, no, you can argue in the broadest sense that it was a reaction that occurred after in time to her maybe, maybe reading the article.
It's like she took an insane Tumblr post of hers and just turned that in.
Yes.
And I really am glad we're going through this because like this is a zero.
This is, this deserves a zero.
It is a zero.
You didn't react to the article if the science that she read is about mental health outcomes as a result of conforming to gender stereotypes, et cetera, et cetera.
This is not a reaction to that.
This is a reaction to like someone gave Evil Universe Christian Robin Williams the word gender and he's like, eh, gender.
And then he did like.
So this is a reaction to seeing the word gender and having a transgraduate student in your section and being like, oh, goody, here's my chance.
Yeah.
The other thing that's really important to understand about this is that despite Samantha's Samantha-ness, she's aware of what react means, right?
She is a junior in college.
She is a psych major.
She has already been told that reacting to an article, she's already been trained that reacting to an article is not let us know what you reckon, right?
Well, she specifically says that she got 100s on all of her other reaction papers.
Yeah.
So she knows how to do it.
I wish we could get some of those.
Yeah, she knows how to do it.
And so should most college juniors, right?
Junior, I just sort of assumed.
I assumed this was like day fucking one.
I guess it's December, but I assume this was early in her life.
And like she's just not cut out for college.
That's honestly.
I can't believe I would have sworn that that was information that I got from a real source.
But I Elied it.
I Elied it.
Yep.
I have spoken.
Well, in defense of me, it was based on indicators that are in the world, you know?
Yeah.
Based on how she writes sentences.
Yeah.
Which is a step above Eli's.
She understands what React means.
And people in the education space, especially the psych education space, understand what Reacts means.
The reason why the word React is being used by those right-wing sources, because they know that laymen think React means let us know what's not React in a podcast sense.
It's using that double speak, right?
And this also brings like a really important thing up.
And Lydia, I don't know if you were going to get to this because you're much smarter than me, but like when you read this essay, what is very obvious to me is that this is a right-winger, right?
Who has moved into college with the specific goal of stirring shit and becoming a right-wing figurehead, right?
And this paper was an attempt to do this.
This was a calculated attempt to victimize a trans person in a position of authority to complain about something, to get herself in trouble so that she could play the victim.
Like, I want to be very clear because I think ground that's accidentally been given in this is that like Fulnecki's just an idiot who then went and tattled with consequences.
No, it's calculated.
All of this is on.
She is an idiot, though.
I want to be very clear.
Right.
But she's an evil idiot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is very calculated.
There's a couple reasons why I feel that way.
One is, again, four hours after she spoke with the instructor about changing her grade and was rejected for that went to the governor.
Like that is not a normal next step for anybody.
To me, it's stupid to even say that.
Like it wouldn't have even occurred to me for to A, complain to anyone else about anything involved in getting a bad grade in class except for the teacher, you know, like actually, you know, just figure out what you needed to do for reels in the assignment.
Right.
But the governor.
Yeah.
She doesn't go to any other like psychology professor.
You know, it's graded by a grad student and then they got like an independent second grade from another grad student.
And they said the same thing, right?
They said the same thing.
Yeah, this sucks.
Yeah, they said the same thing.
They were actually harder on her.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Can we read that?
Do you have that?
Yeah, I have it.
Did you want me to read the initial instructor as well?
Sorry, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I have all that.
Unless Eli wants to, although this is not a reason.
Let me do it.
Yeah, that's better.
You don't have to really get that.
Get that person who's afraid for their life right now, Leon.
Really fucking this bullied graduate student who's desperately trying to survive the next two weeks of internet infamy.
By the way, I'm going to guess, having not even seen this, I'm going to guess this is incredibly diplomatic and relative to what it should be, which is get the fuck out of here, you idiot.
Relative to that, I'm going to imagine this is like, this is the kind of reaction that if this were anything other than Christian nonsense, the very conservative Christian types would be like teachers are coddling kids.
You know like that's what i'm gonna absolutely be.
Yeah, please note that I am not deducting points because you have certain beliefs, but instead I am deducting points for you.
Posting a reaction paper that does not answer the questions for this assignment contradicts itself heavily, uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class and is at times offensive.
While you are entitled to your own personal beliefs, there is an appropriate time or place to implement them in your reflections.
I encourage all students to question or challenge the course material with other empirical findings or testable hypotheses, but using your own personal beliefs to argue against the findings of not only this article but the findings of countless articles across psychology biology sociology, etc.
Is not best practice.
You argue that abiding by normative gender roles is beneficial.
It is perfectly fine to believe this, but to then say that everyone should act the same while also saying that people aren't pressured into gendered expectations, is contradictory.
Yeah exactly, exactly.
Especially since your arguments reflect a religious pressure to act in gender stereotypical ways you can say that strict gender norms don't create gender stereotypes, but that isn't true by definition of what a stereotype is.
Please note that acknowledging gender stereotypes does not immediately denote a negative connotation, a nuance this article discusses, if you would have read it yeah, loser.
Additionally, to call an entire group of people demonic is highly offensive, especially a minoritized population.
You are entitled to your own beliefs, but this isn't a vague narrative of quote society pushes lies, but instead the result of countless years developing psychological and scientific evidence for these claims and directly interacting with the communities involved.
You may personally disagree with this, but that doesn't change the fact that every major psychological medical, pediatric and psychiatric association in the United States acknowledges that, biologically and psychologically, sex and gender is neither binary nor fixed.
I implore you apply some more perspective and empathy in your work.
If you personally disagree with the findings, then by all means share your criticisms, but make sure to do so in a way that is appropriate and using the methodology of empirical psychology as aligned with the learning goals in this class.
If you have any additional questions or concerns about this or would like some additional educational resources, I would be happy to discuss this further and provide you with them.
Is that the end?
That was the first instructor.
Yes, can I call out this ta on something?
Yes, because I know they've been harassed and we'll talk about the other consequences that they've undergone for all the nothing they did wrong.
But I think it's only fair that we point out that if you read that essay and you thought that that person who wrote that essay was going to understand the paragraph that Lydia just read that's on you, my friend, that's on you you should have bitten a sad face.
Your comment should have been, sad face.
How come you no talk about paper and then you insert the gif of the cat looking for its phone right on the bed and you say, me looking for you, referring for this paper, like the full Nicky of Satan sent the Transes to get us is going to be like, oh my gosh, I did not realize, I didn't grapple.
Every major psychological organization was in disagreement with my Biblical worldview.
Luckily, I am ontologically open and I would love to have a conversation with you so I can further educate myself.
What are you doing k?
You know what you do.
You write the word k and then send, and then you immediately go to the other grad students and you're like i'm gonna need you to grade this one.
Yeah, I can hear charging ghost, though I'm going to need the whitest, malest, Christianist, oldest, privileged person to do the grading, please.
Give me, I would go to the president of the, I would go to a member of the board, Sir Ruffington Hamilton the third.
And he'd be like, no, no, let's have a look at this young lady.
Not handwritten, not proper for a lady.
Oh, this is bullshit.
This fucking sucks.
Give her a zero.
And find out if she has any mixed blood in her because I know that's the problem.
She does.
What?
Her mom is Native American.
Oh, well, her mom's also insane.
Yeah, her mom is insane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So then we get from the second instructor.
Okay.
So she's appealed.
I'd like a second opinion.
Okay.
Second instructor is my fucking hero.
Truly, Thomas, this is you in another life.
This is absolutely you in another life.
Can I be a second instructor as a part-time job to just be like, yeah, okay, so this instructor says, Samantha, I am the other instructor for this course.
And I've also taken the time to read your paper.
I concur with Mel on the grade you received.
This paper should not be considered as a completion of the assignment.
Everyone has different ways in which they see the world, but in an academic course such as this, you are being asked to support your ideas with empirical evidence and higher level reasoning.
I find it concerning that you state at the beginning of your paper that you do not think bullying is a bad thing.
In addition, your paper directly and harshly criticizes your peers and their opinions, which are just as valuable as yours.
Disagreeing with others is fine, but there is a respectful way to go about it.
That goes for discussion posts as well as reaction papers.
Please employ more thoughtfulness in your feature assignments.
I love that this teacher had to be like, oh, sorry, real quick, just to remind you, you're in college, not writing the last Twitter post before that particular X account gets banned.
I do wonder too, where she says that goes for discussion posts as well as reaction papers.
That almost makes me feel like maybe she got into some nonsense.
Well, didn't she say in the paper there was something about like, I don't like when I see the discussion posts on her account.
And I love how this is what I'm coming to realize.
Well, I mean, I've long realized, but it was a thought I've was having recently when I sat through that fucking daily interview with a fucking fire.org guy that I did.
Frank Luke.
God damn it.
Anyway, what happens is these people who are sort of, well, I don't know if this applies to her so much, but in general, the observation is people are really, really affected by those around them and they perceive the people around them to be like what it is everywhere.
So like she thinks that the boring blase run-of-the-mill opinion is that, hey, maybe we shouldn't bully kids that have slightly different like gender presentations.
But the boring blase opinion of our society is apparently that we should bully kids and that trans people don't exist.
That's the overwhelming fucking consensus of our stupid public.
But because she somehow faked her way into college, I don't know how.
I don't know how the fuck she's even ended up there.
She is surrounded by, I guess.
And she never played.
And really?
No, she never played.
Oh, we'll get, you'll have to give me that in a minute.
But like somehow she's in college and she's, I imagine, and she's at Oklahoma, whatever.
This can't be that like liberal of a place of a college.
I mean, colleges in general are more liberal than the surrounding areas, but like because there's a handful of people there who are probably respectful of like people's fucking pronouns, she thinks that's the whole world.
Everybody's like uniform in thought.
We're all these drones that blah, And I'll be honest, I felt for this in college as well.
You know, like coming from a conservative background and going to college, I felt like I was the one who was thinking more originally and clearly.
And all these idiot liberals that I was with were like brainwashed, but it's just not fucking true.
It's just not at all true.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we actually had so much to say.
And there were more developments in this story.
So we're actually going to be back for a part two on this.
There was too much Christian girl paper stuff to keep in one part.
So in part two, we're going to talk about the school's reaction, what they did, jokes will be made, fun will be had.
I can't wait.
All right.
Well, another big thanks to Eli Bosnik for coming on.
Always love having Eli on.
So much fun.
And there's even more.
So thanks, Wokies.
Wokies.
We'll see you for part two.
One, two.
I'm just kidding.
Now, here at where this rookie, we do a 48 count.
So 48.
That's why everything takes so long.
46.
It's mostly counts.
This is amazing inside podcast jokes that no one understands.
Two or three of my co-hosts are right.
Yeah, exactly.
If Heath listens to this.
Oh, that's true.
I think Heath listens to this sometimes.
Maybe we'll see.
Or he just tells me it might be because of your freaking Ryan Walters obsession.
Yeah, I'm on here a lot.
It'll be edited.
It'll be edited, but we'll be leaving all of your worst stuff in.
And also adding it to the end, too, so people hear it twice.
Nice.
That's important.
Yeah.
It's just outtakes of all my worst stuff, even though they heard it.
Yep.
Good.
So I don't know what I just played, but I got four buttons we're going to find out today.
We're going to fucking find out.
You can't even hear it.
That would be annoying to me.
I do not want kids to be chased or bullied in school.
However.
How come you no talk about paper?
Earth isn't worth it.
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