Whatever Podcast - HEATED DEBATE! She Got Her Ex DEPORTED?! Excommunicated Mormon/LDS?! Woke E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk 289
Aired: 2026-04-06
Duration: 11:01:42


=== Construction Marketing Team (04:14) ===

[00:00:20]  Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
[00:00:25]  I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
[00:00:26]  I do want to apologize for our delay, guys.
[00:00:30]  We're going to just jump right in.
[00:00:34]  I overbooked today, so we have 13 people total, including myself.
[00:00:39]  So usually if we overbook, it's a little bit harder to get everything all set up.
[00:00:44]  We got to bring on extra mics, and it's just a bit longer of a process.
[00:00:48]  So I do apologize for the delay there.
[00:00:52]  I overbook because almost like clockwork, we can expect the day of two, three, four people are going to no show, the day before people are going to, or flake, whatever.
[00:01:04]  But everybody was very reliable today, so that's good, but also makes for a very crowded table here.
[00:01:12]  So I do want to apologize for the delay.
[00:01:15]  Excuse me.
[00:01:16]  We're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
[00:01:18]  So tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and your education level.
[00:01:25]  All right, I'm Shona.
[00:01:26]  I'm 18, and I'm originally from the Bay, but I'm a freshman in college right now.
[00:01:31]  All right.
[00:01:31]  What are you studying?
[00:01:32]  I'm studying psychological and brain sciences.
[00:01:35]  Okay, welcome.
[00:01:35]  What about you?
[00:01:36]  Hi, my name is Griselda.
[00:01:38]  I'm originally from Mexico, but I currently live in San Antonio, Texas.
[00:01:42]  I'm a business owner, and I just got my GED here in the States.
[00:01:48]  Age?
[00:01:49]  33.
[00:01:51]  33.
[00:01:52]  Okay.
[00:01:52]  What about you?
[00:01:53]  My name is Abby.
[00:01:55]  I'm 25.
[00:01:57]  I am a stay-at-home mom.
[00:01:59]  I do OnlyFans and I run a made cafe.
[00:02:03]  A made cafe?
[00:02:05]  Okay, what's that?
[00:02:08]  It's like kind of like a Kai Guy idol where you like serve people food, but they also pay you to like dance.
[00:02:15]  And where are you from?
[00:02:16]  Las Vegas.
[00:02:17]  Vegas.
[00:02:18]  Okay, what about you?
[00:02:19]  My name is Lisi.
[00:02:20]  I'm 21.
[00:02:22]  I run a music venue in Utah.
[00:02:28]  I don't go to college, nothing like that.
[00:02:31]  Any college?
[00:02:32]  Nope.
[00:02:32]  Okay.
[00:02:33]  And you're from Utah, Salt Lake City?
[00:02:35]  Provo.
[00:02:36]  Are you LDS?
[00:02:38]  No, not anymore.
[00:02:39]  Used to be, though.
[00:02:40]  Yeah, when I was a kid.
[00:02:42]  Okay.
[00:02:42]  All right.
[00:02:42]  What about you?
[00:02:43]  My name is Barbara Adamson.
[00:02:45]  I am from Missouri.
[00:02:47]  I am 38 years old.
[00:02:49]  I am the media coordinator for a pro-life nonprofit.
[00:02:53]  I'm a writer.
[00:02:55]  I dabble in content creation and I have a Master of Arts in English and a Master of Arts in Communication.
[00:03:02]  All right.
[00:03:02]  Welcome.
[00:03:04]  My name is Emily Mack.
[00:03:05]  I'm originally from New York and now I live in South Florida.
[00:03:08]  My level of education is high school.
[00:03:11]  Age?
[00:03:12]  30.
[00:03:12]  30.
[00:03:13]  Okay.
[00:03:14]  What about you?
[00:03:15]  Hi, my name is Frankie.
[00:03:17]  I'm originally from Florida.
[00:03:18]  I moved to Maryland.
[00:03:20]  I studied college there.
[00:03:21]  I studied history.
[00:03:22]  I have a minor in sociology.
[00:03:25]  I have my own podcast as well as I work in construction.
[00:03:29]  I am marketing team.
[00:03:31]  Age?
[00:03:32]  31.
[00:03:33]  And wait, you work in construction.
[00:03:36]  Yes, I'm on the marketing team.
[00:03:37]  On the marketing team.
[00:03:38]  Yes.
[00:03:41]  I'm the head of the marketing team, which means it's just me, really.
[00:03:45]  I don't know if I've heard somebody frame something like that.
[00:03:48]  I work in construction, dot, dot, dot, on the marketing team.
[00:03:52]  So you have an office job.
[00:03:53]  Yes.
[00:03:54]  Okay.
[00:03:55]  See, you know, you know the statistics, you know those statistics where it's like 97% of people in the logging industry are men?
[00:04:02]  I'm pretty sure it's 100%, but it's like they're somehow counting women who work in the air-conditioned office that mess up the statistics on that.
[00:04:17]  Okay, so you're in the you do construction.
[00:04:20]  Yes, I have been in the field, but that's as a project manager, which isn't actual field work.
[00:04:25]  It's more of like measuring and taking pictures.
[00:04:27]  Have you ever worn a hard hat?
[00:04:30]  Yes, when I had to get on a roof.
[00:04:33]  As part of your job?

=== Marines Boot Camp Training (15:48) ===

[00:04:34]  Yes.
[00:04:34]  Okay.
[00:04:35]  All right.
[00:04:36]  What about you?
[00:04:37]  I'm Hannah.
[00:04:37]  I'm 33.
[00:04:38]  I am originally from Delaware, but I live in Utah now.
[00:04:42]  Full-time mom.
[00:04:43]  I kind of skipped the college.
[00:04:44]  I did some college credits, but I stuck with certs like esthetician school, microblading, personal training.
[00:04:49]  Okay.
[00:04:50]  All right.
[00:04:51]  What about you?
[00:04:52]  I'm Joy.
[00:04:52]  I'm 26.
[00:04:54]  I'm born and raised and still reside in Texas.
[00:04:56]  Just a high school diploma.
[00:04:59]  And what do you do for work?
[00:05:00]  Oh, I'm a night auditor for Marriott.
[00:05:02]  For a hotel?
[00:05:03]  Yeah.
[00:05:04]  Okay.
[00:05:04]  Got it.
[00:05:04]  What about you?
[00:05:05]  Hi, I'm Anna.
[00:05:06]  I currently live in Bentonville, Arkansas.
[00:05:09]  I was in the Marines, so I kind of traveled around.
[00:05:10]  I'm not from there, but I reside there now.
[00:05:14]  Up until January, I worked at Amazon for seven years as a program manager, but I was affected by the mass AI layoffs.
[00:05:22]  So I'm currently in my entrepreneur life, and while also maybe finding a job, I don't know.
[00:05:27]  Kind of enjoying the time off.
[00:05:30]  And what was I 41?
[00:05:32]  And you were in the Marines?
[00:05:34]  I was in the Marines, yep.
[00:05:36]  Officer or enlisted?
[00:05:37]  Enlisted.
[00:05:38]  Oh, and I have a master's degree in business and a bachelor's in business and a bachelor's in communications and an associate's degree.
[00:05:45]  And I'm contemplating going back to school for Spanish.
[00:05:48]  For Spanish?
[00:05:49]  Yes.
[00:05:50]  Okay.
[00:05:51]  Do you need to go to school?
[00:05:52]  Can't you just like?
[00:05:53]  I can teach you.
[00:05:57]  My first language is a Spanish.
[00:05:59]  What rank did you rise to in the Marines?
[00:06:02]  E4.
[00:06:03]  How long were you in?
[00:06:06]  Four years.
[00:06:07]  Four years.
[00:06:07]  Okay.
[00:06:08]  Were you deployed?
[00:06:09]  I was not.
[00:06:10]  Okay.
[00:06:11]  But I did live in Japan for two years.
[00:06:13]  Okay.
[00:06:14]  You were overseas?
[00:06:15]  Yes.
[00:06:16]  And let's see.
[00:06:19]  What was your job in the military?
[00:06:22]  You're going to laugh.
[00:06:23]  So I was postal, and our tagline used to be, no one goes postal like a U.S. Marine.
[00:06:29]  So I did the mail, but everyone loved us, and it got me so many hookups.
[00:06:33]  Like, hey, like when we would have the midnight curfews in Okinawa, the cops would let me through.
[00:06:39]  You know what I mean?
[00:06:40]  And if I wanted some free food at the chow hall, they would, you know, as long as I delivered their packages on time.
[00:06:46]  Okay.
[00:06:47]  And so you had like a mail truck and you'd drive around or?
[00:06:51]  Yeah.
[00:06:51]  And so people think like that's all you do, but you also still have to do Marine stuff.
[00:06:54]  Like I was still out in the field.
[00:06:55]  You still have to shoot.
[00:06:56]  Every Marine's a rifleman.
[00:06:58]  But yeah, yes, I did the mail during the day, drove the mail trucks and all the other things.
[00:07:02]  So, yep.
[00:07:04]  And I don't know if, has anybody else been in the military?
[00:07:07]  Yeah.
[00:07:09]  Even if you're going to have a job like that in the military, you still have to do like everyone across the different branches too, right?
[00:07:17]  You have to do the basic training.
[00:07:18]  Is that correct?
[00:07:19]  Correct, yes.
[00:07:20]  Interesting.
[00:07:21]  Yeah, I was wondering, like, is that...
[00:07:26]  Anyways, well, go ahead and ask.
[00:07:28]  We're here.
[00:07:29]  Just say it.
[00:07:30]  Well, I was thinking about...
[00:07:32]  When I was in, I only, women made up 5% of the Marine Corps, just as an FYI when I was.
[00:07:36]  Do are women, and I think it's changed recently.
[00:07:39]  Can women see frontline combat?
[00:07:44]  Yes, and they've been able to for a long time.
[00:07:46]  I mean, back during Iraq and stuff, they had women who served in the chow hall shooting weapons out of the backs of trucks.
[00:07:55]  So, yep.
[00:07:55]  It just changed a lot.
[00:07:56]  Like, my ex-husband was a Green Beret, and then they, like, now you can actually go through as a woman.
[00:08:01]  Well, and I was in from 05 to 09, so they've been allowing you to five, 09?
[00:08:06]  Yeah, and so they've been allowing women in combat positions, even if they're not in combat roles, they were out on the front.
[00:08:12]  If they want, there was also a program called the Lioness Program, and so that was women who would have to pat down the women who wanted to come on base to make sure they didn't have any IEDs strapped to them or anything.
[00:08:21]  So, fun.
[00:08:22]  Yeah.
[00:08:22]  Nice.
[00:08:24]  Yeah, no, I guess the reason I was kind of contemplating that the other day, I was thinking that because now I believe they changed the rules where there used to be, and I forgot the specific term, but it used to be like a there were gendered physical requirements.
[00:08:42]  So it used to be, I think, they had lower requirements, and this might be for the special forces, I believe.
[00:08:49]  They had to lower the requirements for the women.
[00:08:53]  Well, I think they have to lower the across the entire military.
[00:08:57]  The requirement, because you're going into a boot camp or you're just a fresh recruit, you have to pass some physical test at the very forefront, correct?
[00:09:07]  Correct.
[00:09:08]  So women, I think there's like running.
[00:09:11]  I think there's probably, I don't know the exact, like maybe push-ups.
[00:09:14]  You have to maybe do pull-ups.
[00:09:15]  I'm not entirely sure.
[00:09:18]  The requirements for women are lower.
[00:09:20]  So women can run slower.
[00:09:22]  They can, I don't know if there's a weightlifting component, but they have to do less pull-ups.
[00:09:27]  Maybe there's sit-ups.
[00:09:28]  They have to do less of those.
[00:09:30]  There's less push-ups.
[00:09:31]  And I was thinking like.
[00:09:38]  Yeah, I was thinking that maybe, I don't know, if they're changing the rules essentially to now, women will not ever basically see.
[00:09:49]  Now, your base could get attacked, and under that circumstance, I suppose a woman might see combat, but most of these women are not like busting down doors, to my understanding, like doing target acquisition in Afghanistan, at least when we were there.
[00:10:04]  Some women were, yes.
[00:10:06]  So women were teams doing building.
[00:10:11]  What's the term when you're like trying to enter like a building?
[00:10:18]  What's that?
[00:10:19]  Doing sweeps?
[00:10:20]  There's like a term for that.
[00:10:21]  I don't know.
[00:10:22]  I don't know if they were in buildings, but when I was at boot camp and our combat instructors were teaching us, they did mention being on the back of convoys and shooting weapons.
[00:10:31]  When you're clearing a building?
[00:10:32]  Like clearing a building instead of yeah.
[00:10:34]  And then also in convoys, they're not door kickers, is what the chat.
[00:10:38]  Benching, infiltrating, something like that, yeah.
[00:10:41]  Yeah.
[00:10:41]  And I'm just going to speak for the Marine Corps.
[00:10:43]  I wasn't in any other branch of service, but the Marine Corps is the hardest as far as height, weight regulations.
[00:10:49]  It's the longest boot camp.
[00:10:51]  It's the hardest boot camp.
[00:10:52]  We trained alongside, we in the Marine Corps, I think it's changed, but when I was in, we weren't allowed to train with the men, just kind of alongside with the men, if that makes sense.
[00:11:01]  And it wasn't until we graduated that we went to, if you were in special forces, you went to a special force school, school of infantry.
[00:11:08]  But if you weren't in special forces, you went to Marine Combat Training.
[00:11:13]  And so then that's when we trained alongside with the men.
[00:11:16]  And we learned everything that the men were learning the entire time.
[00:11:22]  But of course, there's going to be no denial.
[00:11:25]  Men are stronger.
[00:11:27]  I believe, just from my personal experience in the military, women don't belong on the front lines.
[00:11:33]  But that doesn't mean women aren't on the front lines and they are.
[00:11:36]  And it's admirable.
[00:11:37]  And I know that I know a Marine woman that her helicopter crashed.
[00:11:42]  She's pretty well known in the Marine community, but she lost her leg.
[00:11:46]  I mean, so women have seen combat for sure.
[00:11:49]  Well, I mean, I suppose they do, and maybe they're in a convoy and the convoy gets ambushed or something, but women do not see combat to the same degree as men do.
[00:11:59]  And I do wonder if it is the case, like let's say in some scenario where we're just like churning through men, like we're in a ground war and the men are just, they're dying and we have to replace them.
[00:12:11]  There could conceivably be a situation where, or a base, say a base gets attacked.
[00:12:15]  Now, look, the United States military is the most powerful military in the world.
[00:12:20]  You know, there is no other military that can really match up to the United States.
[00:12:25]  But let's say there was a military base that got attacked and basically all the personnel on the base are basically, okay, go grab a gun.
[00:12:32]  You're going to defend it.
[00:12:33]  Even if you work in the kitchen, even if you work in the mailroom like you do, it seems to me like if you would have to, let's say, and then some of the frontline troops died and you're like, oh, shit, we got to pull the people out of the kitchen.
[00:12:44]  We got to give them a gun.
[00:12:45]  It seems like a waste of resources if we've made a determination that women are not as capable as men when it comes to being soldiers.
[00:12:53]  And if there's even bars to even being like in combat positions for most or even all women, it seems like a waste of resources to even put them through the basic training to learn how to shoot a rifle if there isn't a likelihood.
[00:13:07]  Well, it's not just a likelihood because even a male who's just the chef, is he going to ever shoot a gun?
[00:13:12]  Maybe not.
[00:13:13]  But in the situation that we ever need to pull from these reserve troops that are the more in assistant roles, it seems to me if we were to compare the men in the assistant roles to the women in the assistant roles, the men are going to be way more effective soldiers.
[00:13:28]  So it just seems like a waste to put these women through like rifle training and combat training and basic training to begin with.
[00:13:36]  Okay, so let's talk about the history of women in the military.
[00:13:39]  When we started putting women in the military, it was because to relieve the men from these mundane postal jobs, you know, cook jobs so they could go and fight the front lines.
[00:13:49]  So one could argue, like when you go to war, they're still at a base, they're still at camp, and you still need postal, you still need the chow hall, you still need all these things.
[00:13:57]  So if a woman wants to serve, let them serve.
[00:13:59]  I do not agree with lowering the standards if a woman wants to be in the front lines, which I don't even agree to, but if she does, I think they should meet the standards of what a man can do.
[00:14:08]  But we all know physically, men are stronger than women, right?
[00:14:12]  So, but I do think that there's a purpose because I like the idea of freeing the men so that they can go and do that.
[00:14:21]  But we still need to be in shape.
[00:14:23]  Like, we can't have fat people serving in the military.
[00:14:25]  So even if a woman does pass the physical minimum requirements that the men also pass, you also have to realize that they'll get their period once a month and they're basically useless.
[00:14:34]  So that's also a big issue.
[00:14:36]  But also it extends beyond their physical capability and also their mental capability.
[00:14:39]  Like have you ever been to a restaurant and seen like a male waiter cry?
[00:14:42]  No.
[00:14:42]  Female waitresses, bro, they're breaking down.
[00:14:44]  Like, oh my God, it's so busy.
[00:14:45]  What happens when a woman's getting shot at?
[00:14:47]  No, I think it's just a bad thing.
[00:14:47]  They just break down.
[00:14:48]  And then that's the thing.
[00:14:49]  Let's talk about this men, too.
[00:14:50]  It's like it's an instinct for a men to want to run out and run after a woman and protect and save her.
[00:14:55]  Yeah, and also the other part of it is like if a woman's in the military, she's on a convoy or whatever, they capture her and they're like, hey, we're going to rape your female fellow soldier in front of you.
[00:15:05]  We're going to peel your eyes open.
[00:15:06]  We're going to rape her in front of you.
[00:15:07]  Spill all the secrets.
[00:15:08]  Any man would spill that.
[00:15:10]  I probably would.
[00:15:10]  Even if it would cause America to fall, I would spill those secrets.
[00:15:13]  I can't watch that.
[00:15:14]  I can't.
[00:15:15]  I would not want to see that happen.
[00:15:17]  But if they said, hey, we're going to kill your fellow soldier chat or whatever, I'd be like, bro, I'm not giving you the secrets, right?
[00:15:22]  But they're like, we're going to rape this woman in front of you.
[00:15:24]  I'd be like, bro, take it, right?
[00:15:25]  So that's also another issue.
[00:15:26]  They can use it as a way to demoralize.
[00:15:30]  Not demoralizes.
[00:15:31]  Well, and I've had friends get pregnant over there and get back.
[00:15:35]  So they say that send them over and they're pregnant.
[00:15:38]  And guess what?
[00:15:38]  They have to go back.
[00:15:39]  So I agree, you know, in a sense, there.
[00:15:43]  How did they get pregnant?
[00:15:46]  The burden of these.
[00:15:47]  Well, but I still have something to say.
[00:15:49]  What do you mean that women are useless when they're in their period?
[00:15:52]  Well, they're not useless, but more in our periods every month.
[00:15:55]  I mean, they're not useless, but they're obviously less effective at being useful.
[00:15:58]  I don't think so.
[00:15:58]  I mean, I know so.
[00:16:00]  I'm as capable as any other day.
[00:16:02]  I work in a kitchen.
[00:16:03]  I used to be a servant.
[00:16:04]  I'm a business soul nerd.
[00:16:05]  I mean, I can do the same thing as my chef does.
[00:16:08]  Why do you want to give me that?
[00:16:08]  Why are you doing that?
[00:16:09]  Yeah, so I feel like that's very okay.
[00:16:10]  Can you do like, can you do like a 10-mile run in like an hour?
[00:16:13]  Well, if I have the training for that, probably yes.
[00:16:17]  But again, I feel like that's from very out of place saying that we're useless when we are in their entirely useless, but like you're not going to be as good.
[00:16:26]  Okay, okay, you know what I mean by useless.
[00:16:28]  Obviously, you're not useless, but like for the amount of food that you have to eat for all the logistics where people have to supply stuff to you through the supply chain of the military, it's not worth having you out in the Middle East if you're going to be like a soldier that's halfway useless for five days out of a month.
[00:16:40]  Except you're not halfway loosely.
[00:16:42]  I just say that we can't do that.
[00:16:43]  Except not everyone goes to their five days.
[00:16:45]  Now I would say serious components.
[00:16:48]  But also you have to keep in mind the mental capability of women.
[00:16:50]  It's not meant to deal with stress naturally.
[00:16:52]  Well, I also want to point out too that a lot of us don't get our periods while in the middle, especially during boot camp and stuff.
[00:16:57]  If you're physically active and if you're not eating as much as you're outputting with physical activity, we don't get periods.
[00:17:03]  So a lot of women who are over on eating on their periods.
[00:17:06]  But I, like I said, to an extent, like, so my job, I was postal, and so they used to put the special forces guys who came back really messed up from war in our unit.
[00:17:17]  And these men would pour everything that they witnessed out to me, bawling like grown-ass men that I still think about these stories to this day of the things that they witnessed.
[00:17:27]  And I, as a mother, just can't even imagine and fathom witnessing that as a woman.
[00:17:34]  Like and how traumatized.
[00:17:35]  And they are traumatized.
[00:17:36]  They come back traumatized.
[00:17:37]  And men are supposed to be mentally more traumatized.
[00:17:39]  Yeah, I do have to move it on.
[00:17:42]  Okay.
[00:17:42]  Age or intro?
[00:17:44]  Angelica, 29.
[00:17:46]  I studied English, psychology, math, and computer science, and I'm an influencer.
[00:17:50]  And I flew in from DC.
[00:17:52]  You're from DC?
[00:17:54]  Okay.
[00:17:54]  Go ahead.
[00:17:55]  Yeah.
[00:17:55]  My name is Riley Nimi.
[00:17:56]  I'm 21 years old.
[00:17:58]  I went to high school for six months.
[00:18:00]  And I'm currently the owner of a business that does stuff with political campaigns.
[00:18:03]  And I also do political content online and do campus debates just like Charlie Kirker did.
[00:18:08]  All right.
[00:18:09]  Welcome, everybody.
[00:18:11]  So really quick, I'll do the intro.
[00:18:14]  I need to do the introduction, guys.
[00:18:16]  So actually, first, we do have a TTS that came through.
[00:18:20]  Sorry, Desert Jorge for the delay on this.
[00:18:22]  I had to get through the intros.
[00:18:26]  Thank you, man.
[00:18:27]  Bricks of happy news this week with Sophie Rain and your first child.
[00:18:31]  Yes.
[00:18:32]  Don't forget the DNA test and no state involved with marriage.
[00:18:36]  If those work, the two of you will live happily ever after raising your seven sons.
[00:18:41]  Yep.
[00:18:42]  Yeah.
[00:18:43]  Really quick on the X there, Nathan, on my personal X, you're going to have to scroll down to April 1st post.
[00:18:50]  So on April 1st, I posted, and people got kind of bent out of shape about it.
[00:18:56]  I posted across social media that me and Sophie Rain, the infamous OnlyFans creator, who I guess makes $50 million a year, outer ends LeBron James, that I impregnated her and we're expecting a child.
[00:19:12]  And people kind of somehow believed this AI photo.
[00:19:16]  I thought it was a pretty obvious joke.
[00:19:18]  Do you have it?
[00:19:19]  Did you find it?
[00:19:21]  Go ahead, pull up the photo.
[00:19:26]  Now, this is also me when I was like 40 pounds lighter, too.
[00:19:30]  But it was just like AI or whatever.
[00:19:33]  So scroll back up.
[00:19:34]  So yeah, I did impregnate Sophie Rain.
[00:19:37]  We're having a baby, blah, blah, blah.
[00:19:39]  I mean, at least they made you 40 pounds lighter.
[00:19:40]  That's nice.
[00:19:41]  That was nice of them.
[00:19:43]  Nice of the AI.
[00:19:44]  Yeah, you know, I saw that and I was like, that's not Brian.
[00:19:47]  That is like a younger, more trim version of me.
[00:19:51]  But yeah, people are losing their mind about it.
[00:19:53]  I don't know.
[00:19:54]  I thought it was funny.
[00:19:54]  It was April for April.
[00:19:55]  Congratulations.
[00:19:56]  Thank you.
[00:19:57]  Thank you.
[00:19:58]  Demon spawn on the way.
[00:19:59]  So anyways.
[00:20:01]  But thank you for your TTS, Desert Jorge.
[00:20:03]  I very much appreciate it.
[00:20:04]  Sorry for the delay on that.
[00:20:05]  We were just, you sent it right as the show started.
[00:20:08]  Oh, my goodness.
[00:20:09]  And just speaking of it.
[00:20:12]  Thank you, man.
[00:20:13]  Robert Tanner donated $1,000.
[00:20:16]  Yo, you're a legend.
[00:20:17]  W's in the chat for him.
[00:20:18]  Been a while.
[00:20:19]  As you know, long time supporter.

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[00:20:22]  Thank you, man.
[00:20:22]  Let's check in soon.
[00:20:24]  Also, why are the Germans not looking at women for the current military level?
[00:20:28]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:29]  Maybe current to the convo now for now.
[00:20:31]  Thank you.
[00:20:32]  Yo, Robert Tanner, first off, thank you for the massive TTS.
[00:20:35]  We're going to do champagne pop here.
[00:20:37]  We're going to maybe wait until we're done through the with the intros to do the champagne pop.
[00:20:41]  But yeah, actually pull that up really quick.
[00:20:44]  So go back to my ex.
[00:20:46]  And then this was, gee, when did I post this?
[00:20:52]  There's a post about like Germany is preparing to wage war.
[00:20:56]  I think it was like from two days ago or something.
[00:21:00]  You're going to have to scroll up to find it.
[00:21:03]  I'm trying to think if there's a photo.
[00:21:06]  It's just a photo of text, basically.
[00:21:11]  It's on the X.
[00:21:12]  It's more recent than the Sophie Rain only April Fool's thing.
[00:21:17]  Do you have it?
[00:21:18]  No.
[00:21:18]  It is on the X. You just should be scrolling, probably scrolling up.
[00:21:22]  You'll find it.
[00:21:23]  I believe I posted it two days ago.
[00:21:24]  I think that should be either April 3rd, April 2nd.
[00:21:29]  Do you have it?
[00:21:31]  It's in reference to the mandatory you have to give the German government notice if you're leaving.
[00:21:37]  That is correct.
[00:21:39]  Yeah, so basically Germany passed this new law where only for men, only for men, I think if you're between the ages of 17 and 45, if you're planning to leave Germany for more than three months, you need to check in.
[00:21:55]  I think you actually have to, not just check in, you have to get permission from the Bundeswehr, which is like the, I don't know what the translation for that is, the German military, essentially.
[00:22:05]  Do you have it?
[00:22:06]  Yeah.
[00:22:06]  Pull it up, please.
[00:22:09]  That's from the Berliner Zeitung.
[00:22:11]  I'm not sure if I'm.
[00:22:12]  Any German speakers here?
[00:22:14]  No?
[00:22:14]  Okay.
[00:22:15]  New conscription rule.
[00:22:16]  Young men are no longer allowed to leave Germany without permission.
[00:22:20]  So that's ages 17 and 45 must obtain permission if they intend to leave Germany for more than three months.
[00:22:27]  They need to obtain this permission from the German armed forces.
[00:22:31]  That's that male, that's the male privilege, female oppression that we're always talking about.
[00:22:38]  So Germany seems to be gearing up for war.
[00:22:41]  So liquidate your crypto.
[00:22:44]  I'm just kidding.
[00:22:45]  But thank you, Robert Tanner, for the big $1,000 TTS.
[00:22:48]  Can we get some W's in the chat for Robert Tanner?
[00:22:50]  That's a massive, very generous contribution for him.
[00:22:53]  Thank you, man.
[00:22:53]  Really appreciate it.
[00:22:55]  Let me write a note here that we do need to do a champagne pop.
[00:22:58]  I'm going to delay it just a little bit so we can get through the intros.
[00:23:03]  Okay, so where were we?
[00:23:05]  I totally forgot.
[00:23:07]  Okay, I got to do the intro here in just a sec.
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[00:25:48]  It's fucking made out of cardboard.
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[00:25:52]  Your nipples start bleeding after wearing a t-shirt for three minutes because it's made out of Chinese cardboard and children or something.
[00:25:59]  I don't know.
[00:26:00]  Who knows what they're fucking doing with their t-shirt blanks over there in China?
[00:26:03]  So actually, by the way, I don't know actually where.
[00:26:08]  Hold on, let me check the tag on this.
[00:26:10]  Maybe it's made in China.
[00:26:12]  But the most premium Chinese sweatshop labor.
[00:26:16]  So let's see what else.
[00:26:19]  Hey, can I have a suggestion for the swag?
[00:26:21]  I noticed the I Love Big Labia.
[00:26:23]  Maybe we could get an I Love Big Dick in there.
[00:26:25]  What do you think?
[00:26:32]  That was good, but the majority of my audience is men.
[00:26:35]  And as far as I know, they're homosexuals.
[00:26:38]  Fair enough.
[00:26:38]  Fair enough.
[00:26:40]  But maybe for the, I mean, the mirror would not even be, because I think there's a the large labia thing.
[00:26:51]  I would have to say, I heart like micro penises or like, yeah, it's a negative.
[00:26:55]  Yeah, that's like I don't find it to be a negative, but most men kind of do.
[00:27:02]  I think there's a lot of women that would have interest in these than this swag, just saying.
[00:27:08]  Yeah, but it's not, it doesn't hit the same, you know.
[00:27:11]  The space.
[00:27:13]  Shout out to Space for the gifted five whatever memberships.
[00:27:17]  Roxy, thank you for the gifted one and Robert Tanner with the big gifted 50 whatever memberships.
[00:27:23]  You are a legend, sir.
[00:27:25]  Thank you, Robert Tanner.
[00:27:26]  Thank you very much, man.
[00:27:27]  Fucking legend.
[00:27:29]  Appreciate the big gifted 50.
[00:27:33]  Guys, we need he did a champagne pop.
[00:27:35]  He gifted 50 whatever memberships.
[00:27:37]  This guy's a fucking legend.
[00:27:38]  Fucking legend.
[00:27:39]  Thank you, Robert Tanner.
[00:27:42]  We need a, I wish we, there was like VIP on YouTube chat on Twitch.
[00:27:46]  You can VIP somebody, but unfortunately.
[00:27:48]  Yeah.
[00:27:49]  So, okay, finishing up the intro here.
[00:27:51]  Follow us on Instagram at whatever on Instagram and just hide the StreamYard thing.
[00:27:58]  Any women who want to be on the show, of course, you can follow us there.
[00:28:02]  DM us there.
[00:28:03]  X.com slash whatever.
[00:28:05]  Follow me on Instagram, BrianAtlasX, and then X at BrianAtlas.
[00:28:10]  Also, I guess follow my cat, April.
[00:28:15]  And then quick public service announcement.
[00:28:19]  I'm the founder of, yeah, you can pull up on the StreamYard too.
[00:28:24]  I'm the founder of the nonprofit and grassroots movement, big labia matter, or BLM for short.
[00:28:32]  Because all labia can't matter until big labia matter.
[00:28:35]  As someone who only dates women with large labia, this is kind of important for me.
[00:28:39]  10,000 labia plasties a year in the USA.
[00:28:41]  Absolute fucking tragedy.
[00:28:43]  You know, we're at war with Iran.
[00:28:45]  We just fucking regime changed Venezuela.
[00:28:49]  There's shit in the Middle East.
[00:28:50]  There's fucking Ukraine.
[00:28:51]  Immigration, inflation, recession probably on the way.
[00:28:56]  What fucking, the price of food is fucking dog shit.
[00:28:59]  A hamburger was $30 the other day.
[00:29:00]  What the fuck?
[00:29:02]  Absolutely ridiculous.
[00:29:03]  But you know what?
[00:29:04]  That shit's a distraction.
[00:29:06]  10,000 labia plasties a year in the U.S. Absolute fucking tragedy.
[00:29:10]  Can I add to that?
[00:29:11]  I'm one of those statistics.
[00:29:14]  You had a labia plasty?
[00:29:16]  I did.
[00:29:18]  I should kick you off the show for that.
[00:29:19]  Did the rabbi lick off the blood when it was open?
[00:29:22]  I'm Catholic.
[00:29:25]  I used to work for a couple plastic surgeons, and they are, a lot of times it's functional.
[00:29:30]  Like women will have irritation and stuff.
[00:29:32]  So it's not.
[00:29:33]  Can I ask why?
[00:29:34]  Do you have any kids?
[00:29:35]  I have three.
[00:29:36]  And yeah, kids, it just, like you said, it's just for irritation.
[00:29:39]  It was literally like an irritation.
[00:29:40]  And then during sex, too.
[00:29:42]  It was not like, you know, like, oh, it looks ugly.
[00:29:45]  Well, I mean, that's a nice perk, but it wasn't like, it was covered by insurance for a medical miscarriage.
[00:29:50]  I mean, I don't understand this whole like, it's uncomfortable.
[00:29:53]  It gets in the way.
[00:29:54]  Men have balls and penises.
[00:29:57]  Like, we seem, we don't fucking chop our shit off it, and it's definitely in the way.
[00:30:00]  Well, they actually do.
[00:30:01]  So can we tell you in circumstance?
[00:30:04]  Can we talk about why it was even?
[00:30:06]  The circumstances fucking retarded, first off, but what they do is...
[00:30:11]  Like, the balls are still there in the way.
[00:30:13]  And like, balls and penis hang, unless you got world record labia, are in the way more and hang more.
[00:30:21]  Yeah, but if you have the means, like in the insurance, some of the women have the means to get it fixed.
[00:30:26]  Why would they not?
[00:30:26]  And can I tell you?
[00:30:27]  Fixed.
[00:30:28]  There's nothing to fix.
[00:30:28]  It's beautiful as is.
[00:30:29]  Fuck that shit.
[00:30:30]  I've seen somewhere I'm like, I support this decision.
[00:30:32]  No, fuck that.
[00:30:33]  The bigger the better.
[00:30:34]  Can I tell you how it was even, because my health insurance covered it?
[00:30:37]  And can I tell you why?
[00:30:38]  It wasn't because it bothered me.
[00:30:39]  Like, you would think that that's why health insurance would bother you.
[00:30:41]  Like, you have issues walking, running, whatever.
[00:30:44]  No, it was because I couldn't have sex with my husband.
[00:30:46]  And that's why they covered it.
[00:30:47]  So just like that.
[00:30:47]  Where do you get your health insurance?
[00:30:49]  This was like 10.
[00:30:50]  No, this was like 15 years ago.
[00:30:52]  But how do you go to the doctor and tell them, oh, like, I cannot have sex because of my bake lab?
[00:30:56]  No, the doctor said, if you want this covered by your health insurance, that's why we're going to put it down.
[00:31:00]  Don't believe it.
[00:31:01]  I swear to God.
[00:31:04]  That wasn't the actual reason, but that's what the doctor wanted.
[00:31:07]  The doctor was trying to help me get it covered throughout the day.
[00:31:09]  Oh, wait, wait, wait.
[00:31:10]  So you committed an insurance fraud, and you're saying that on a live podcast.
[00:31:13]  It's probably similar to like a breast reduction where you go to a doctor.
[00:31:16]  You can complain enough to where they're going.
[00:31:18]  Well, it did bother.
[00:31:19]  It did bother me during sex, but I'm not having sex 24-7.
[00:31:22]  I'm walking, I'm running, I'm doing it.
[00:31:24]  Wait, why didn't you lead with, okay, here was your framing.
[00:31:28]  Well, I couldn't have sex with my husband.
[00:31:31]  That was your lead in framing.
[00:31:33]  And then only after do you disclose, oh, my doctor, look, this is something that happens with any sort of prescription.
[00:31:41]  It's, you know, they used to do this with marijuana.
[00:31:43]  You go to the doctor, at least when it was illegal.
[00:31:46]  The doctor would be like, tell me you have migraines.
[00:31:49]  Tell me that you have glaucoma or some bullshit.
[00:31:52]  So they could write a fucking prescription.
[00:31:54]  But it's like, you should have led with, well, my, I don't even understand why you would afford that.
[00:32:00]  Because right now we're having an argument about the merits of this procedure.
[00:32:04]  And you just, and you're like, well, I can have sex with my husband, but I actually could.
[00:32:08]  My doctor just.
[00:32:09]  Well, I could.
[00:32:09]  It just wasn't comfortable, is what I'm saying.
[00:32:11]  Like, who wants to have sex when you're uncomfortable?
[00:32:13]  So.
[00:32:13]  It was physically uncomfortable.
[00:32:15]  Yeah.
[00:32:16]  Yep.
[00:32:16]  It was just slapping around.
[00:32:18]  It gets sucked in with everything.
[00:32:20]  I mean, it hurt?
[00:32:22]  No.
[00:32:23]  No.
[00:32:24]  Girl, I gave birth to 10-pound babies, so no.
[00:32:26]  Where did your health insurance come from?
[00:32:28]  Was it taxpayer-funded?
[00:32:29]  At the...
[00:32:30]  No, no, no.
[00:32:31]  Okay, good.
[00:32:31]  I've never ever been on any sort of assistance or anything.
[00:32:34]  But I mean, like, if your husband works with the government or at the time when I, I'm not married anymore, but when I was married, he worked for the jail in Washington State at the time earlier.
[00:32:41]  So he worked for the government.
[00:32:43]  Well, he got benefits that we paid into just like any other job.
[00:32:46]  It was a state job.
[00:32:48]  Yeah, but he paid into it with his paycheck from the government.
[00:32:51]  So it's a taxpayer-funded labia plastic.
[00:32:53]  How is that taxpayer?
[00:32:57]  He paid his health insurance.
[00:33:00]  He gets his money from the government, and the government overpays their own money.
[00:33:02]  But he works for the government.
[00:33:03]  He's not just sitting on his ass.
[00:33:05]  He's working for the government.
[00:33:06]  He's putting in his time.
[00:33:07]  Who works for the government?
[00:33:08]  Like, seriously?
[00:33:10]  On a slide?
[00:33:10]  No, he did.
[00:33:11]  And he worked like 60 hours a week and he paid for it.
[00:33:14]  I just wonder how we got.
[00:33:16]  I'm just trying to get through the introduction.
[00:33:18]  Let me just chime in on the labia thing.
[00:33:23]  Oh, also, really quick.
[00:33:24]  So if you guys do buy merch, shop.whatever.com, it is going to pop up something like it'll actually show on screen.

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[00:33:32]  Let me see if there's others.
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[00:33:45]  Hold on, there's a TTS.
[00:33:47]  Who's handed it?
[00:33:48]  Handy Nevin donated $200.
[00:33:50]  Thank you, dude.
[00:33:51]  That's the coolest panelist in the history of this show.
[00:33:54]  302 for life.
[00:33:57]  302?
[00:33:58]  Is that?
[00:33:58]  Wait, what's a 302?
[00:34:00]  It's two body counts off of 304.
[00:34:02]  Yeah, area code.
[00:34:03]  It's Delaware?
[00:34:04]  It's Sellers Area Code.
[00:34:05]  Oh, Delaware.
[00:34:06]  Yo, shout out Delaware.
[00:34:08]  They only know you.
[00:34:08]  It goes down in Delaware.
[00:34:10]  Okay, if you guys can't catch the full shows, we have a Clips channel.
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[00:34:22]  You can actually see it in the pinned, in the YouTube chat, it's pinned just at Brian.
[00:34:28]  Or you could pull that up, I guess the BLM thing.
[00:34:30]  So yeah, I actually got youtube.com slash at Brian.
[00:34:36]  If you want to go sub to that, there's going to be some developments on that channel, right?
[00:34:40]  It used to be one of my clips channels, but we're still posting clips, but we're going to transition that to there's going to be some crazy shit on that channel.
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[00:35:01]  So be sure, pull it up really quick.
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[00:35:05]  Discord.gg slash whatever.
[00:35:07]  Join.
[00:35:07]  It's a super cool community.
[00:35:09]  I'm chatting in there and there's like some BTS stuff that's pretty cool that you can check out.
[00:35:14]  So discord.gg slash whatever.
[00:35:16]  Okay.
[00:35:17]  Sorry that was a very long-winded introduction.
[00:35:20]  Now we're going to get right back to the show and then momentarily do the champagne pop.
[00:35:26]  But going around the table, what's your current relationship status?
[00:35:30]  If you're single, how long have you been single?
[00:35:32]  And what's the longest relationship status?
[00:35:35]  What's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
[00:35:37]  Go ahead.
[00:35:38]  I'm single and I've never been in a relationship.
[00:35:41]  All right.
[00:35:42]  Nothing?
[00:35:43]  Nothing.
[00:35:43]  No relationship.
[00:35:44]  I mean, you've been at UCSB now.
[00:35:46]  You start in, what, September?
[00:35:48]  I started in September.
[00:35:49]  September, October, November, December, January, February, March.
[00:35:53]  It's not my priority.
[00:35:54]  No guys in the picture?
[00:35:56]  No.
[00:35:56]  Didn't you have like a crush or something?
[00:35:59]  I was maybe like texting someone, but nothing right now.
[00:36:02]  Nothing?
[00:36:03]  All right.
[00:36:05]  Is your roommate just like my roommates?
[00:36:08]  I'm in a triple.
[00:36:10]  Triple?
[00:36:10]  Yeah.
[00:36:11]  That sucks.
[00:36:12]  Oh, it's chill.
[00:36:13]  I love my roommates.
[00:36:14]  Do you get kicked out all the time to let your roommates smash Frapros?
[00:36:18]  No, We don't do anything.
[00:36:20]  You don't do that?
[00:36:21]  Okay.
[00:36:22]  All right.
[00:36:23]  What about you?
[00:36:24]  I'm married, and I think this is my longest.
[00:36:27]  Go ahead.
[00:36:27]  This is my longest relationship.
[00:36:28]  I've been married for about 10 years.
[00:36:31]  10 years?
[00:36:32]  Okay.
[00:36:34]  And married for 10 together for how long?
[00:36:39]  Close to 11 years.
[00:36:42]  11 years.
[00:36:43]  Okay.
[00:36:43]  Correct.
[00:36:44]  All right.
[00:36:44]  Have you been married before?
[00:36:46]  Well, not married, but I was living with, you know, with other guys, but I wasn't married.
[00:36:50]  You've had other relationships.
[00:36:52]  Correct.
[00:36:52]  Were you engaged to other men?
[00:36:54]  No.
[00:36:54]  Any kids?
[00:36:55]  I have two kids, two girls.
[00:36:57]  From this marriage?
[00:36:59]  Yes.
[00:37:00]  Okay.
[00:37:01]  All right.
[00:37:02]  What about you?
[00:37:03]  I am.
[00:37:04]  Supers, please.
[00:37:06]  Hold on.
[00:37:06]  Hold on.
[00:37:07]  Get the supers, please.
[00:37:11]  Okay.
[00:37:11]  What the fuck are some of these fucking retarded.
[00:37:14]  Hold on.
[00:37:16]  Rachel, thank you for the membership.
[00:37:18]  Shout out, Pasty, for the super.
[00:37:20]  Thank you, man.
[00:37:21]  Okay.
[00:37:23]  I am married.
[00:37:25]  I guess I've only been in three relationships, and all three of them were three years.
[00:37:32]  Sorry, how long have you been married?
[00:37:34]  Three years, you said?
[00:37:35]  Well, I've been married for two.
[00:37:37]  You've been married for two.
[00:37:39]  Two and a half.
[00:37:39]  Two and a half.
[00:37:41]  Okay.
[00:37:42]  All right.
[00:37:44]  And you have a kid?
[00:37:46]  One kid?
[00:37:46]  Yes.
[00:37:47]  From your current marriage?
[00:37:49]  Yes.
[00:37:49]  Okay.
[00:37:50]  What about you?
[00:37:51]  I'm in a relationship.
[00:37:53]  My longest relationship was two years, and it was a previous one.
[00:37:58]  Okay.
[00:37:59]  Longest relationship?
[00:38:00]  Two years?
[00:38:01]  Yeah.
[00:38:03]  How long is your current relationship?
[00:38:06]  Ten months.
[00:38:07]  Ten months.
[00:38:08]  Okay.
[00:38:10]  Orientation?
[00:38:12]  Orientation?
[00:38:13]  Sexual orientation.
[00:38:14]  Straight by straight.
[00:38:16]  Okay.
[00:38:16]  What about you?
[00:38:17]  I am married.
[00:38:18]  I've been married for almost three years.
[00:38:22]  Longest relationship.
[00:38:25]  I was married once before for 12 years.
[00:38:28]  We were together for 14.
[00:38:32]  Okay, got it.
[00:38:33]  What about you?
[00:38:34]  I'm engaged.
[00:38:35]  This would be my longest relationship.
[00:38:37]  We've been together for three years.
[00:38:39]  As of next week, I actually met him on his birthday, so I always joke that I'm the best birthday present he'll ever get.
[00:38:45]  All right.
[00:38:46]  What about you?
[00:38:47]  I'm in a relationship now.
[00:38:49]  Been in a relationship for three years.
[00:38:51]  My longest relationship was like seven or eight years.
[00:38:54]  Any kids?
[00:38:55]  Yes, I have a nine-year-old.
[00:38:58]  That's from the seven-year?
[00:38:59]  Yep.
[00:39:00]  Were you married?
[00:39:02]  No.
[00:39:02]  Ever married?
[00:39:03]  Nope.
[00:39:04]  Does he pay you child support?
[00:39:05]  Yep.
[00:39:06]  What's the custody arrangement?
[00:39:08]  Like shared custody.
[00:39:10]  Shared custody?
[00:39:13]  Shared custody.
[00:39:15]  Okay.
[00:39:16]  And he pays you child support.
[00:39:17]  It's 50-50?
[00:39:18]  Yeah.
[00:39:19]  How much does he pay you in child support?
[00:39:21]  I'm not willing to answer that.
[00:39:24]  Is it a lot or a little?
[00:39:25]  I'm just not willing to answer it.
[00:39:29]  Is he black?
[00:39:30]  Why would you ask that?
[00:39:32]  Oh, yeah.
[00:39:33]  Of course he's filled the water.
[00:39:37]  Here, Tiffany, paper towels, please.
[00:39:39]  Please be paying attention.
[00:39:40]  Yes.
[00:39:41]  No, not you.
[00:39:44]  Guys, come on.
[00:39:47]  I shouldn't.
[00:39:49]  Unprompted.
[00:39:50]  Unprompted, please.
[00:39:52]  It's like, why do I need to ask?
[00:39:54]  It's hard to see more than all this.
[00:39:59]  All right, continue, please.
[00:40:04]  Me?
[00:40:05]  Yeah, next person, please.
[00:40:07]  I have, I was married for eight years.
[00:40:09]  I'm single.
[00:40:10]  My last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago, and I have two kids.
[00:40:16]  Sorry, could you repeat that?
[00:40:17]  Yeah, I was married for eight years.
[00:40:20]  Are you single currently?
[00:40:21]  Yes.
[00:40:21]  Okay.
[00:40:22]  I had two kids during that marriage, and my last serious relationship was about a year and a half ago.
[00:40:27]  So two kids from the one marriage, is that correct?
[00:40:29]  Yep.
[00:40:30]  Okay.
[00:40:30]  Have you been married any other times?
[00:40:32]  Nope, just the ones.
[00:40:35]  Okay.
[00:40:36]  And why did you guys break up?
[00:40:40]  Substance abuse.
[00:40:42]  On your part or his?
[00:40:43]  His part.
[00:40:44]  What was the drug of choice?
[00:40:47]  I'm not going to talk about that kind of stuff for him on here.
[00:40:50]  Okay.
[00:40:52]  You initiated the divorce?
[00:40:53]  Yes.
[00:40:54]  How long ago was this?
[00:40:56]  Four and a half, five years ago.
[00:40:57]  I moved to Utah.
[00:40:59]  He's still in Nashville.
[00:41:02]  Okay.
[00:41:08]  Does he pay you child support?
[00:41:10]  That's an ongoing battle.
[00:41:12]  If I'm lucky if I get anything.
[00:41:14]  I haven't been paid alimony in over two years.
[00:41:18]  I'm lucky if I get child support, so.
[00:41:20]  Okay, you haven't been.
[00:41:22]  Oh, wait, hold on.
[00:41:24]  Okay, so wait.
[00:41:26]  When did you divorce?
[00:41:29]  I separated about almost five years ago, and the divorce took about a year and a half.
[00:41:37]  Okay.
[00:41:40]  So, okay, you've been...
[00:41:41]  Sorry, guys, there's a fucking bus or something passing by.
[00:41:46]  Okay, five years ago, you were married for eight years.
[00:41:55]  You're currently in an unresolved, both a custody dispute, and then they're still making determinations.
[00:42:02]  No, it's not a custody dispute.
[00:42:04]  He just, I have them like throughout the school year, and then they go out to Nashville for a few weeks in the summer.
[00:42:09]  And they're right there right now because it's spring break.
[00:42:11]  So you have primary custody or full custody?
[00:42:16]  Yes, primary.
[00:42:17]  Okay.
[00:42:18]  So is he paying you alimony currently?
[00:42:21]  No.
[00:42:22]  But he's supposed to by law.
[00:42:25]  He's not, though.
[00:42:26]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:42:26]  Okay, so you're currently in a legal?
[00:42:31]  I haven't taken him back to court.
[00:42:34]  I could, but I haven't.
[00:42:36]  Well, so when you say he was supposed to be paying you alimony, are you saying just...
[00:42:40]  He should be.
[00:42:41]  Like, it's...
[00:42:42]  Like, was it court ordered?
[00:42:45]  Court ordered, yes.
[00:42:46]  Okay.
[00:42:46]  Yes.
[00:42:46]  So there was already, through the process of the divorce, there was already legal court action instructing him to pay alimony.
[00:42:56]  And has he expressed a reason why he's not paying?
[00:42:58]  Is it willful or can he not afford it?
[00:43:02]  I'm assuming you can't afford it.
[00:43:04]  Honestly, it's one of those things, like, I just don't really like to ask a whole lot of questions because it really stressed me out for a long time, and I kind of don't want to give any more of my energy towards that.
[00:43:14]  If that makes sense.
[00:43:15]  Okay.
[00:43:17]  I see.
[00:43:18]  Okay.
[00:43:19]  And then is he paying you child support?
[00:43:23]  No.
[00:43:24]  It goes through like this weird card in Utah.
[00:43:26]  You can go through ORS.
[00:43:28]  And so they'll load it onto there.
[00:43:32]  But I mean, one time I literally got a check.
[00:43:34]  I think it was for $37.09.

=== Bluffing The Breakup (10:14) ===

[00:43:37]  So.
[00:43:39]  Okay.
[00:43:39]  All right.
[00:43:40]  Yeah.
[00:43:42]  Okay.
[00:43:43]  Okay.
[00:43:44]  What about you?
[00:43:45]  Newly single.
[00:43:47]  How newly?
[00:43:49]  Six months?
[00:43:50]  Six or seven months.
[00:43:52]  It was two and a half years.
[00:43:54]  Is that your longest relationship?
[00:43:56]  It's my only relationship.
[00:43:57]  Only relationship.
[00:43:58]  Okay.
[00:43:59]  Who broke up with who?
[00:44:02]  I broke up with him, but then I wanted him back like five seconds later.
[00:44:09]  And he was like, no.
[00:44:10]  I'd be like that.
[00:44:13]  You broke up with him?
[00:44:14]  Yeah.
[00:44:15]  I was upset.
[00:44:16]  About what?
[00:44:17]  We were arguing.
[00:44:18]  I don't even know what about.
[00:44:19]  It was months ago.
[00:44:20]  Have you done that before?
[00:44:21]  Was it on again, off again?
[00:44:23]  Yeah.
[00:44:24]  So you would break up with him and then get you.
[00:44:28]  Not really like mean it, though.
[00:44:29]  Just like kind of in the moment, like, I don't want to be with you.
[00:44:32]  Don't fucking call me.
[00:44:35]  And then like, I expect him to call me.
[00:44:37]  Yeah.
[00:44:37]  So he broke up with you.
[00:44:38]  Yeah.
[00:44:39]  He's like, fuck no.
[00:44:40]  Toxic.
[00:44:41]  So you were bluffing.
[00:44:42]  I was bluffing.
[00:44:44]  Like, I didn't.
[00:44:45]  That shit shocked me.
[00:44:46]  I was like, and then, but so, okay, the bluff failed because I think here's what you're trying to do.
[00:44:53]  He was, you were upset, whether warranted or not, and you were trying to either express your dissatisfaction or correct something that you perceive or in actuality he was doing wrong.
[00:45:06]  Yeah, and I just like want it to be in control.
[00:45:09]  Okay.
[00:45:10]  And then, so this was essentially a manipulation tactic to attempt to get him to change or do something.
[00:45:17]  That's really it.
[00:45:18]  Okay.
[00:45:19]  And then, but when it didn't work, did you try to reconcile, try to get back together?
[00:45:23]  Or yeah.
[00:45:24]  And then he was like, nope, I'm done.
[00:45:26]  Yeah.
[00:45:26]  Okay.
[00:45:27]  Yeah, I think this is a dangerous tactic, although it's sometimes, especially for perhaps men who are lacking in experience when it comes to dating women.
[00:45:36]  And by the way, just to be clear, men can do this too.
[00:45:38]  Men can bluff the breakup, and then the woman's like, okay.
[00:45:42]  So then you either have to like tuck your tail and take the L and be like, oh, I didn't mean it.
[00:45:49]  Let's make it work.
[00:45:50]  Or you just got to, I mean, or it's just over, I guess.
[00:45:54]  But I do think it is a tactic that perhaps women sometimes employ most than men.
[00:46:02]  The bluff breakup.
[00:46:04]  I think, look, if you're having an issue in a relationship, you can be upset about it and you can talk it over.
[00:46:10]  But I think, and this is especially an issue in marriages when you bluff the divorce.
[00:46:16]  But bluffing the breakup or the divorce is, you should mean it, is, I guess, what I'm trying to say.
[00:46:22]  If you're going to suggest a breakup, like you have to actually mean it.
[00:46:25]  It can't be a bluff.
[00:46:26]  It's also very manipulative.
[00:46:27]  Women will do this.
[00:46:28]  We're like, oh, I don't know.
[00:46:30]  I'm so upset.
[00:46:31]  We should.
[00:46:33]  I think we should break up.
[00:46:34]  And then you're like, okay.
[00:46:36]  And then they're just like, I don't know.
[00:46:39]  I don't believe in the like on again, off again thing.
[00:46:43]  If you want to broach a breakup, it's over.
[00:46:46]  Like, don't ever come to me threatening a breakup unless you fucking mean it.
[00:46:51]  Because then it's just like, okay, well.
[00:46:54]  I think if you truly love somebody, you couldn't do that to them.
[00:46:57]  Well, someone in a relationship.
[00:46:59]  I think it's very toxic.
[00:47:00]  It is toxic to bluff the breakup.
[00:47:02]  Yeah, you should.
[00:47:03]  Look, if you have an issue.
[00:47:05]  If you have an issue, you can deal with it.
[00:47:07]  Like address the issue, but using it as a manipulation tool or leverage to try to get what you want, I don't think it's effective.
[00:47:15]  I think, especially in a marriage, like you don't, you don't ever say the word divorce.
[00:47:22]  Like, just get the fucking divorce.
[00:47:24]  Like, okay, we have an issue.
[00:47:25]  We're going to work it out.
[00:47:27]  But don't use, I don't think you should use divorce threat as well.
[00:47:33]  I feel like it's like gambling.
[00:47:34]  You should be willing to lose if you do do it.
[00:47:37]  Yeah.
[00:47:37]  True.
[00:47:38]  I think if I'm dating someone and they threaten the relationship, I'm going to walk away because I can't live with that type of anxiety or stress.
[00:47:44]  Well, not only that.
[00:47:44]  I don't think you truly are in love with me if you could do that.
[00:47:47]  True.
[00:47:47]  The thing is that when it comes to a marriage, like threatening divorce is a whole other level.
[00:47:50]  But if you're in a relationship, that's not how women break up.
[00:47:54]  Like, they don't just say, I'm going to break up with you right now.
[00:47:56]  They break up quietly and slowly.
[00:47:57]  And they go in some various relationships.
[00:47:59]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:47:59]  Like I'm doing breakup.
[00:48:01]  Yeah, it's like when they threaten it, it's kind of one of those things where it's just don't take her seriously.
[00:48:05]  She's just speaking out of her emotions.
[00:48:06]  Yeah.
[00:48:07]  Or is she so locked up?
[00:48:08]  And if you do it more than once, that's what it ends up becoming anyway.
[00:48:11]  But just saying the marriage is totally different.
[00:48:13]  I mean, I've been married for a long time, and believe me, we have had fights where I'm almost done with him or he's done with me.
[00:48:21]  But, you know, to say divorce, I think that's another level.
[00:48:24]  You know, we can get to the point that we don't talk to each other for days or weeks, you know.
[00:48:28]  And, you know, since we own businesses together, you know, we kind of talk only about business.
[00:48:34]  Like, okay, talk to me about the business, but don't talk to me about personal stuff.
[00:48:38]  But it's totally different, yes, when you're married.
[00:48:40]  I mean, and I feel like, you know, when you're in a relationship, because I used to be in relationships before, yes, I will try to never, oh my gosh, I will try.
[00:48:49]  I'm going to leave you.
[00:48:50]  I'm going to leave your ass.
[00:48:51]  I'm going to, I'm going to do it.
[00:48:52]  Like, like she said, I used to do that, you know.
[00:48:54]  But since I got married, I think, yeah, I think it's not like I'm not toxic.
[00:48:58]  I'm toxic as hill.
[00:48:59]  Spooksy gab.
[00:49:01]  I'm toxic as hill.
[00:49:02]  Okay.
[00:49:03]  Sorry.
[00:49:03]  What about you?
[00:49:05]  I'm sorry.
[00:49:05]  What's the question?
[00:49:06]  Your relationship, Stannis?
[00:49:07]  Oh, I'm single.
[00:49:09]  The longest relationship I've been in, it was six and a half years with the father of my kids.
[00:49:14]  How long have you been single for?
[00:49:17]  I've like on and off the last five years.
[00:49:20]  I'll go on dates and stuff, but I went on a sabbatical for like three years and recently got off of it where I just wasn't dating at all or talking to men or anything at all.
[00:49:29]  Right.
[00:49:30]  Wait, just clarification: you've been married once or twice?
[00:49:34]  Once.
[00:49:34]  One time.
[00:49:35]  And you have how many kids?
[00:49:36]  Three.
[00:49:37]  Three kids, all from the same man?
[00:49:39]  My two older ones have the same father, and then I have a younger one that has a different father.
[00:49:44]  So I have a 19-year-old, a 15-year-old, and a four-year-old, almost four-year-old.
[00:49:49]  Four-year-old.
[00:49:50]  Okay, and you said there's a three-year period of celibacy.
[00:49:54]  It was celibacy, is that correct?
[00:49:56]  Yes.
[00:49:56]  Like, I didn't even hug or shake hands with a man.
[00:50:00]  Nothing.
[00:50:00]  I was not out.
[00:50:01]  For three years.
[00:50:02]  For three years.
[00:50:03]  And when was that?
[00:50:05]  2021 to 2024, I believe.
[00:50:12]  Wait, 20.
[00:50:12]  And you have a four-year-old?
[00:50:14]  So the period of celibacy started while you were pregnant?
[00:50:17]  Is that?
[00:50:18]  Yeah.
[00:50:19]  Okay.
[00:50:19]  I kind of just like freaked out and ended like something that was never meant to be.
[00:50:26]  But he's a good dad.
[00:50:27]  And we have like a good co-parenting relationship.
[00:50:29]  I love his wife.
[00:50:30]  Wait, what do you mean you?
[00:50:31]  What was the thing you did that you never meant to do?
[00:50:34]  What do you mean?
[00:50:36]  Didn't you just didn't those words just come out of your mouth?
[00:50:39]  I just, it's not like we planned the baby.
[00:50:41]  Like, I kind of just freaked out and left.
[00:50:43]  Like, I was more of a man in the situation than he was.
[00:50:45]  Like, he was like, oh, let's try to work this out.
[00:50:48]  Let's try to be together.
[00:50:49]  And I was like, holy shit.
[00:50:50]  Like, I'm starting.
[00:50:51]  If you put yourself like, I had a 15-year-old at the time, and then, you know, like a 12-year-old.
[00:50:55]  And I'm like, what the fuck did I just do to my life?
[00:50:58]  I'm obviously in a different place now with that.
[00:50:59]  And we're upset.
[00:51:00]  Why didn't you just abort?
[00:51:01]  Or do you not believe in that?
[00:51:03]  I don't believe in abortion.
[00:51:04]  Okay.
[00:51:05]  Hey, just because her baby's half black, she should not have an abortion, okay?
[00:51:10]  Okay.
[00:51:10]  For the record, he's not half black.
[00:51:12]  Wow.
[00:51:13]  Wait, so but we get along.
[00:51:15]  Like I said, I love his wife.
[00:51:17]  She's amazing.
[00:51:18]  His and his dad is a really good dad, and so we co-parent amicably.
[00:51:25]  Okay.
[00:51:26]  So, how long were you dating the guy?
[00:51:28]  Not very long.
[00:51:29]  I'm not going to delve into that.
[00:51:32]  Well, so was it like a one-night stand or something that you got pregnant off of?
[00:51:38]  I'm not going to delve into the inverts of the dating discussion podcast.
[00:51:42]  So we talked for a few weeks and then, yes, we hooked up and I had him.
[00:51:46]  So, yeah.
[00:51:47]  And he was like all in wanting to have this relationship with me.
[00:51:50]  And I was like, holy fucking shit.
[00:51:52]  You know, like, what the hell did I just do?
[00:51:56]  So, and no, I do not collect child support from either father.
[00:51:59]  I don't need it.
[00:51:59]  And I believe both fathers are very present in my children's life.
[00:52:03]  And I believe child support is for absent fathers, not present fathers.
[00:52:09]  So I don't collect any sort of child support.
[00:52:11]  I take care of my kids at my own.
[00:52:13]  Okay.
[00:52:13]  But I mean, there's certainly some financial components of raising a child.
[00:52:19]  Do they contribute in some ways?
[00:52:21]  Yeah, like my ex bought ours, buys the car.
[00:52:23]  Like my older two, their dad makes good money.
[00:52:27]  So he buys them cars and takes them on trips.
[00:52:29]  And, you know, like, yes, they both contribute that way.
[00:52:32]  Okay.
[00:52:32]  But they're not paying, they don't give you money directly.
[00:52:36]  In fact, I signed, my older, my husband, my ex-husband, I signed off on him having to give it to me.
[00:52:40]  He used to give it to me.
[00:52:41]  I used to have a situation similar to Hannah's where we lived in two different states.
[00:52:45]  And that's when I took it because I was living in a different state.
[00:52:48]  But once I moved, like when they got a little older, I just was like, they need to be near their father.
[00:52:52]  You know, a boy needs their father, boys need their father.
[00:52:54]  So I moved near them.
[00:52:55]  And then once that happened, I signed off on child support.
[00:52:59]  Okay.
[00:52:59]  Yeah.
[00:53:00]  So, okay, you were married.
[00:53:02]  The two other children are from your ex-husband.
[00:53:05]  Yeah.
[00:53:06]  And he doesn't pay you alimony.
[00:53:07]  Nope.
[00:53:08]  Nope.
[00:53:08]  Okay.
[00:53:09]  If I ever needed anything, he would be there.
[00:53:12]  But I just don't.
[00:53:13]  Like, I just feel like he's a good father.
[00:53:15]  He's there.
[00:53:16]  Can you put the cup on the table, please?
[00:53:20]  Okay, so hold on.
[00:53:26]  Did you like this guy, the most recent guy who you have a kid with, like, was this, you hooked up one time and got pregnant?
[00:53:34]  Yeah.
[00:53:35]  One and done.
[00:53:35]  I was on a business trip, missed my period.
[00:53:38]  We were about ready to go to a, the condom broke.
[00:53:41]  We were about ready to go to a winery that day.
[00:53:44]  And I was like, why is my period late?
[00:53:45]  And so I was like, before we go to this winery, I should probably, and I half asked took, like, this isn't, I'm not going to be.

=== Side Hustle Raw Dogging (04:02) ===

[00:53:52]  And I was immediately, like, he and I still connect.
[00:53:54]  Like, we were still talking and stuff like that.
[00:53:56]  I moved to Arkansas from California.
[00:53:58]  And at the time, Arkansas is medically illegal.
[00:54:02]  And getting weed was, so he was kind of like my weed plug.
[00:54:06]  So, yeah.
[00:54:07]  And that's history now.
[00:54:10]  Okay.
[00:54:12]  All right.
[00:54:12]  I see.
[00:54:13]  Hold on.
[00:54:13]  We have a TTS.
[00:54:14]  It's kind of insulting towards me, but I got to be fair.
[00:54:17]  So, all right.
[00:54:20]  Sam Deman with the hater TTS, I suppose you could say.
[00:54:26]  Hannah has her fans in the chat, I guess.
[00:54:29]  Thank you for all the Twitch subs, by the way.
[00:54:31]  Appreciate it, guys.
[00:54:32]  It's coming in in just a minute.
[00:54:35]  Sam DeMan, 302 donated 200 unicorn.
[00:54:39]  Hannah, you're mugging everyone.
[00:54:41]  Brian Loki looking like a fat unicorn.
[00:54:44]  Go work out bozo.
[00:54:46]  And the rest of the girls are chocolate F.
[00:54:48]  Oh, shit.
[00:54:49]  I wish Gorlock was there.
[00:54:50]  I'd give her a kiss.
[00:54:52]  Wow, okay.
[00:54:53]  You guys are all good.
[00:54:54]  I want to see what he looks like.
[00:54:56]  By the way, so the Stream Labs, it will change bad words into other words.
[00:55:01]  So unicorn was actually a retard.
[00:55:03]  So he was calling me a, just for clarification, he wasn't calling me a unicorn, which is kind of a compliment, but he did in fact call me a fat retard.
[00:55:11]  Yeah, I'm working on it.
[00:55:12]  You know, I'm working on it.
[00:55:14]  Prototypes.
[00:55:16]  I'm trying to raw dog the diet, too.
[00:55:18]  I'm not taking those MPs.
[00:55:19]  I'm trying to do it fucking raw dog.
[00:55:22]  Okay.
[00:55:23]  Relationship status over here?
[00:55:25]  In a relationship, the longest one that I've had is average two to three years.
[00:55:29]  And yeah, met the guy that I'm with at church.
[00:55:32]  All right.
[00:55:34]  And how long have you been seeing the current guy?
[00:55:38]  Roughly around two years.
[00:55:39]  Oh, two years.
[00:55:40]  Okay.
[00:55:40]  Are you guys engaged or anything like that?
[00:55:43]  Yes.
[00:55:44]  You're engaged.
[00:55:45]  Okay.
[00:55:45]  Have you ever been engaged before or married?
[00:55:47]  No.
[00:55:48]  Okay.
[00:55:48]  You met him.
[00:55:49]  You're Orthodox Christian?
[00:55:50]  Yes.
[00:55:51]  Okay.
[00:55:53]  Did you used to do OnlyFans?
[00:55:55]  As a side hustle, correct?
[00:55:57]  Yes.
[00:55:57]  A while ago.
[00:55:58]  You don't do it anymore, though, is that correct?
[00:56:00]  Anybody else, does anyone here do you do OF?
[00:56:03]  Is anybody else do OF or have done OF?
[00:56:06]  I've done it as a side hustle.
[00:56:07]  You did it?
[00:56:08]  Yeah?
[00:56:08]  Yeah.
[00:56:09]  You used to do it?
[00:56:10]  Not really.
[00:56:11]  I was like scamming, low-key.
[00:56:13]  You were skipping.
[00:56:13]  It's like screen recording things and screenshotting it and then selling it to people.
[00:56:17]  Wait, what do you mean?
[00:56:19]  The people's stuff.
[00:56:20]  Taking notes.
[00:56:21]  I'm on porn hub.
[00:56:22]  I don't know what you expected me to do.
[00:56:24]  What?
[00:56:24]  Yeah.
[00:56:25]  She's a hustler.
[00:56:25]  Oh, so you were pretending to be somebody else and using.
[00:56:28]  Catfishing, basically.
[00:56:29]  Using somebody else's content.
[00:56:31]  Were you using a white girl or no?
[00:56:35]  I was using black girls because I was using my actual face as the signup.
[00:56:40]  But when it came to people requesting things, I'm like, okay, I'll just go look for something like that.
[00:56:44]  So you would go find like a masturbation that looked as close to me as possible, which is like really, really hard because everyone has a very unique build and not a lot of people that look.
[00:56:57]  What would you type into P-Hub?
[00:57:00]  Like ebony?
[00:57:03]  No, but what are the other adjectives to because you said your build.
[00:57:08]  Yeah.
[00:57:08]  So like what would you type in to find the build match?
[00:57:11]  Like at the time I was like really small.
[00:57:12]  So I'm like ebony like petite.
[00:57:15]  Petite and then like the what's what do you call the newcomers that are like on porn a lot?
[00:57:20]  Like you know what I'm talking about?
[00:57:22]  I'm not in the bestness.
[00:57:24]  Like amateur, yeah.
[00:57:25]  Oh, that much.
[00:57:26]  All right.
[00:57:27]  Somebody bought, looks like they bought a merch.
[00:57:29]  What the heck?
[00:57:30]  Let me see if it comes up.
[00:57:31]  East Coast Canadian, thank you.
[00:57:32]  You bought some merch.
[00:57:33]  Shop.whatever.com.
[00:57:35]  Appreciate it, brother.
[00:57:36]  Thank you for the merch purchase.
[00:57:37]  Thank you, man.
[00:57:38]  I don't know if there's anyone else.
[00:57:40]  I think we're good on that.
[00:57:41]  Okay.
[00:57:42]  Relationship status, sir.
[00:57:43]  Yes.
[00:57:43]  So I am currently dating a girl.
[00:57:45]  We've been dating for 11 months, and that's my longest relationship.
[00:57:49]  All right.
[00:57:50]  Rock and roll.
[00:57:52]  That's everyone's relationship status.

=== Allegiance To The US (15:02) ===

[00:57:54]  So we're going to jump into a couple topics here.
[00:57:58]  I think the first one, and it kind of took us a while to get through everything, but I think the first thing I wanted to do was ask, let's see.
[00:58:12]  This is a question for Riley, and then we're going to have to recalibrate it for some of the women.
[00:58:17]  Well, here, let's do this.
[00:58:19]  Show of hands, who here is conservative?
[00:58:21]  Raise your hand if you're conservative.
[00:58:25]  Raise your hand if you're liberal.
[00:58:30]  So you're moderate, I guess?
[00:58:33]  I don't associate.
[00:58:34]  I don't know what to tell you.
[00:58:36]  All right, well, how about then?
[00:58:37]  Just that'll give context for the following.
[00:58:39]  The question is, starting with Riley, would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?
[00:58:48]  That's hard.
[00:58:48]  I think Alex Stein would agree with me on this one.
[00:58:50]  I would find myself a nine because if you're a nine, you're fine.
[00:58:52]  If you're an eight, we could have an immigration debate, but like, probably go for an illegal immigrant, to be honest with you.
[00:58:57]  Give him a green card?
[00:58:58]  I think, yeah, I would rather date an illegal immigrant.
[00:59:01]  I used to be an illegal immigrant.
[00:59:03]  Used to.
[00:59:04]  Yeah, but I married my husband.
[00:59:07]  So you have a green card?
[00:59:08]  Or are you naturalized?
[00:59:10]  No, I just got my green card.
[00:59:12]  Do you have to a green card?
[00:59:15]  So you're that's permanent, right?
[00:59:17]  Yeah, that's permanent residency.
[00:59:19]  Okay.
[00:59:19]  But you don't have to.
[00:59:21]  Beyond getting a green card, you can become a full-fledged citizen, right?
[00:59:26]  Yes.
[00:59:26]  So you're not full-fledged citizen.
[00:59:28]  No.
[00:59:28]  So you can you vote?
[00:59:30]  I can vote.
[00:59:31]  You cannot vote.
[00:59:32]  Okay, but if are you on the pathway to trying to become a citizen?
[00:59:35]  Oh, yes, of course.
[00:59:36]  Okay.
[00:59:37]  I have a question for you on this.
[00:59:38]  Yeah.
[00:59:39]  Throw it at me.
[00:59:40]  By the way, is anybody here?
[00:59:41]  This is, I guess I could ask it to anyone here.
[00:59:43]  Is anyone here like either an immigrant or a child, like second generation, third generation immigrant?
[00:59:51]  I'm not half.
[00:59:52]  Like my dad's from here, my mom's not.
[00:59:55]  Okay, what for you?
[00:59:56]  My grandmother on my mom's side was from Italy.
[00:59:59]  From Italy?
[00:59:59]  Okay, what about you?
[01:00:01]  My mom's from Japan.
[01:00:02]  Mom's from Japan.
[01:00:04]  Is she a citizen now?
[01:00:05]  Has she become a citizen of the U.S.?
[01:00:07]  She has a green card.
[01:00:08]  She has a green card.
[01:00:09]  And your father is American?
[01:00:10]  Yes.
[01:00:11]  Okay.
[01:00:11]  Well, I guess then this question is really only for you.
[01:00:14]  Let me see if I can find it.
[01:00:15]  Hold on.
[01:00:16]  I'm also an immigrant.
[01:00:17]  What's that?
[01:00:18]  I'm also an immigrant.
[01:00:19]  You are?
[01:00:20]  Yeah.
[01:00:20]  Like, where were you born?
[01:00:22]  South Africa.
[01:00:23]  Oh, word.
[01:00:23]  That's cool.
[01:00:24]  Do you have U.S. citizenship?
[01:00:25]  Nope.
[01:00:25]  I'm a UK citizen.
[01:00:27]  You're a UK citizen.
[01:00:28]  You were born in South Africa.
[01:00:30]  But do you have cultural affinity for the UK or South Africa?
[01:00:37]  Not really South Africa, UK somewhat, but I moved here when I was seven, so I'd say I'm definitely American, but I still am technically an immigrant, I guess.
[01:00:43]  And then your parents' nationality, what is it?
[01:00:46]  My dad's a UK citizen, and my mom's also a UK citizen, although she was previously an Indian citizen.
[01:00:51]  Okay.
[01:00:52]  So here's the question.
[01:00:53]  I guess maybe it will apply to you, but for you primarily.
[01:00:57]  And you're from Mexico?
[01:00:59]  I'm from Mexico, yes.
[01:01:00]  Born in Mexico?
[01:01:01]  Born and raised in Mexico.
[01:01:02]  When did you move to the United States?
[01:01:03]  I moved, I think, in 2010.
[01:01:07]  2010?
[01:01:07]  Well, I was kind of brought by my dad.
[01:01:10]  You know, I was, I think, 17, 16, 17.
[01:01:14]  Okay, I see.
[01:01:15]  So in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the United States and Mexico, where say neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance?
[01:01:31]  That's a really tough question, to be honest.
[01:01:35]  Well, I had to say probably to the United States at this point in my life because, you know, my kids are from here.
[01:01:42]  My husband, he's a U.S. citizen.
[01:01:44]  And, you know, but, you know, you never leave your roots, you know.
[01:01:50]  I mean, if we were to be in a war, I don't know.
[01:01:53]  Probably I probably lean more towards Mexico, but, you know, I mean, it's a difficult question.
[01:02:00]  And do you think you deserve citizenship?
[01:02:02]  I, yeah, you know, if I deserve it.
[01:02:05]  I mean, I contribute to the society.
[01:02:06]  I'm a taxpayer.
[01:02:07]  I create jobs for Americans.
[01:02:10]  And, you know, I do a lot of things.
[01:02:12]  I feel like I'm, and at some point.
[01:02:13]  Can you create jobs in Mexico?
[01:02:16]  No.
[01:02:16]  No, okay.
[01:02:17]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:02:18]  I forgot about that.
[01:02:19]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[01:02:21]  I grew up just here in the States for Americans.
[01:02:25]  So, and just to be clear, this question is more so like a you can still have an affinity, a cultural affinity for a country.
[01:02:35]  I'm assuming you have relatives and family Mexico.
[01:02:38]  This isn't a rejection of your familial ties.
[01:02:43]  It's not a rejection of your culture even.
[01:02:45]  But in terms of, it's more like a legal allegiance to the United States, your political allegiance, in the event of some sort of war, you would side with the United States over Mexico?
[01:03:03]  Probably.
[01:03:04]  Probably, yes.
[01:03:05]  I would say with the United States.
[01:03:07]  One thing to be aware of, so actually, I don't think this is a requirement under your green card status, I think.
[01:03:13]  I'm not familiar with the green card status, but if you were wanting to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you have to take the oath of allegiance in the oath of allegiance.
[01:03:22]  It does require you to forsake and abandon.
[01:03:26]  That's not the exact wording, but you essentially have to forsake any allegiance to any other country, state, sovereignty, principality, kingdom, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:03:37]  And your loyalty must fully be with the United States.
[01:03:41]  Correct.
[01:03:42]  But I don't know if there's a to get your green card.
[01:03:46]  I don't know if there's an oath of allegiance for that.
[01:03:49]  No, not really.
[01:03:50]  I mean, there's basically just, you know, they investigate you to the core.
[01:03:55]  You know, they want to know that the relationship is for real, that you're not just getting your papers, you know.
[01:04:00]  But I think when you get your citizenship, yes, you have to, you basically are giving up your Mexican citizenship.
[01:04:09]  Sure.
[01:04:10]  Shona, what about you?
[01:04:11]  So, I mean, same question.
[01:04:13]  The United States goes to war with the UK.
[01:04:16]  No one's right or wrong.
[01:04:18]  Yeah.
[01:04:18]  That seems to never be the case.
[01:04:20]  Well, it's hypothetical.
[01:04:21]  So it's like a morally neutral conflict, you know?
[01:04:24]  Well, if it's a morally neutral conflict, I would be morally neutral.
[01:04:28]  Or I would not like really be on a particular side.
[01:04:31]  Right, but in the situation, the hypothetical, you had to pick a side.
[01:04:36]  Which side would you pick?
[01:04:37]  I mean, I would choose the United States because I live here.
[01:04:41]  What if you were, at the time of the war breaking out, you were living in the UK at that moment?
[01:04:47]  And if I was living in the UK and that was like my foreseen future.
[01:04:51]  With the option, of course, that your oath of allegiance would, if it was to the United States, obviously you wouldn't have to publicly say this, and you could always go back to the United States prior to outbreak of major conflict or something.
[01:05:07]  I would just choose wherever I plan on living long term.
[01:05:10]  I mean, like at that point, do you ever see yourself in your life living long term in the UK?
[01:05:15]  No, I live here.
[01:05:16]  Okay, now.
[01:05:17]  So I guess back to this, though, the question is: would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant to which you say illegal immigrant?
[01:05:25]  Yeah.
[01:05:26]  So going around the table, would you rather, I guess you can maybe swap it.
[01:05:32]  Wait, hold on.
[01:05:34]  You have to change the question for the people who are not conservative.
[01:05:37]  This is a question more so for the more conservative people.
[01:05:42]  Hmm, how do we swap it to be a question for libs?
[01:05:47]  Would you rather date a conservative?
[01:05:49]  Well, yeah, would you rather date a conservative or an ISO officer?
[01:05:53]  Wait, how about this?
[01:05:54]  Or an ISO?
[01:05:55]  ISO officer or a trans or a trans man.
[01:06:01]  Oh.
[01:06:02]  This is so uncool.
[01:06:04]  Why is it uncool?
[01:06:05]  I don't like either of the options.
[01:06:08]  You don't like transgenders?
[01:06:09]  Are you transphobic?
[01:06:11]  We do not need this on that podcast.
[01:06:12]  I just would like.
[01:06:13]  So, Angelica, for you, would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?
[01:06:17]  A liberal.
[01:06:19]  What?
[01:06:20]  Really?
[01:06:21]  Well, to your Mexican point, correct me if I'm wrong.
[01:06:24]  Infos Toxicos, they have loyalty tests.
[01:06:28]  The Mexican men are common to hit or cheat on their women to prove that their rider dies.
[01:06:34]  And that's typical of a lot of men from other countries that are not Western.
[01:06:37]  I assume that the legal is from Mexico.
[01:06:40]  I don't want anything to do with them.
[01:06:42]  I like Western men, including Americanized Hispanics.
[01:06:46]  But it has to be Americanized, Westernized people.
[01:06:49]  Why are we assuming that the legal is from Mexico?
[01:06:54]  Because they're the most common.
[01:06:55]  Good point.
[01:06:56]  Well, they can be any.
[01:06:58]  Well, in my experience, I've only ever seen Mexican illegals.
[01:07:01]  Now there's more Somalians and Haitians and all of these different people.
[01:07:04]  They've always been Mexicans.
[01:07:06]  Not to be able to do that.
[01:07:06]  It's just the one that we talk about.
[01:07:08]  The largest bulk of illegal immigration comes from south of the border, particularly Mexico.
[01:07:12]  It's like 50% at minimum has always been from Mexico.
[01:07:15]  It's because it's easier to slide in here.
[01:07:19]  It's not easy.
[01:07:20]  No, I'm going to let you stop you there.
[01:07:22]  No.
[01:07:22]  No, no, it's not easy.
[01:07:24]  I actually crossed the river.
[01:07:26]  And that's the hard way.
[01:07:27]  It's easier.
[01:07:28]  That's what she's getting at.
[01:07:29]  I mean, they hear this story.
[01:07:31]  A lot of people fly in and overstay their visa, which is the easiest way to do it.
[01:07:34]  It's just they have to pay like American dollars to afford that ticket.
[01:07:37]  Otherwise, you have to basically take that whole commute on the train and everything.
[01:07:41]  Yeah, I mean, but to say that, you know, the Hispanic men are saying Mexican men are, you know, they have to, you know, that basically they have to hitch or whatever.
[01:07:52]  I mean, I think it's you're generalizing.
[01:07:55]  Not all of them, of course, but it is common and I just don't want to deal with it.
[01:07:58]  I feel like every illegal immigrant I've met has been someone that's like overstayed a visa or something like that.
[01:08:04]  So I've known a couple have the same experience as well.
[01:08:06]  Well, not all of them.
[01:08:08]  That's what you did to her.
[01:08:09]  See how like retarded it is?
[01:08:11]  It doesn't sound tired to me at all.
[01:08:12]  How about you?
[01:08:13]  Which one would you pick?
[01:08:14]  Me?
[01:08:14]  Yeah.
[01:08:15]  Well, there's nothing.
[01:08:17]  Something worse than an extreme leftist woman is a beta leftist male.
[01:08:21]  So I'm going to go with illegals.
[01:08:23]  Also, my type.
[01:08:24]  I love my Mexican daddy.
[01:08:25]  So especially if you're a Mexican daddy.
[01:08:28]  What about Nick Fuentes?
[01:08:30]  He's Hispanic.
[01:08:31]  Not cute.
[01:08:32]  He's not Mexican enough.
[01:08:35]  I want a man, and sometimes I feel like leftist men are like, will you pay half my bill?
[01:08:40]  And will I leech off you?
[01:08:42]  And just like I find like Mexican men especially are, they want to provide, they want to natural role.
[01:08:49]  And anyhow, I haven't been in any sort of abusive situation.
[01:08:52]  It's been with white people.
[01:08:53]  So I find them to have the same values kind of that I grew up with.
[01:08:57]  Yeah, I mean, I think that Hispanic cultures have more of this.
[01:09:01]  Men are more, you know, they're more culturally speaking.
[01:09:06]  They're more characterized for being more conservative, you know.
[01:09:09]  And, but yeah, they also expect you to be in the conservative side.
[01:09:13]  You know, that's from my experience.
[01:09:15]  Basically, all of my all of my relationships have been, you know, my same race.
[01:09:20]  Should I say that?
[01:09:21]  I have dated a couple of, you know, white guys.
[01:09:25]  And yeah, I mean, culturally speaking, it's totally different.
[01:09:28]  You know, I think Hispanic men are very, very conservative, but they expect the same from you.
[01:09:34]  And I don't, I consider myself conservative in certain ways, but I think thinking about it, I think I'm a little bit more moderate.
[01:09:40]  Same.
[01:09:41]  Yeah, you know, I believe in a lot of stuff, but you know, I don't like a man telling me what to do, basically.
[01:09:46]  Well, on those two points, when it comes to leftist men, they typically treat women like public property, and conservative men treat them like private property, which they're mine.
[01:09:54]  But on your point, I only ever dated one Hispanic man, Mexican.
[01:09:59]  He was the only one that was ever aggressive.
[01:10:01]  So after that, and not only that, I was forewarned by a friend of mine's father-in-law where he was like, oh, I heard that Mexican men beat their women.
[01:10:08]  And I'm like, oh, how could you say something like that?
[01:10:11]  No, of course not.
[01:10:13]  And then, yeah, I mean, I had to eat my words, basically.
[01:10:16]  Well, well, well.
[01:10:18]  At least you realized it, though.
[01:10:19]  Did you get jealous?
[01:10:20]  I will say that, like a little bit territorial.
[01:10:22]  Yeah, I mean, no, I mean, I want to say.
[01:10:25]  But they're hardworking and they're very hardworking.
[01:10:27]  I mean, most of the people, I think, are very hard-working.
[01:10:30]  Yeah, I mean, most of the people that I know are, again, are, you know, immigrants or illegal immigrants.
[01:10:35]  And yes, everybody's very hardworking.
[01:10:37]  I mean, I don't take, I mean, I work, I hire, you know, immigrants.
[01:10:42]  And everybody's very hardworking and everybody has their wives.
[01:10:45]  You know, they provide my chef, let's just put it that way.
[01:10:49]  His wife doesn't work for anything.
[01:10:51]  He works seven days a week all day.
[01:10:55]  And, you know, she's a happy wife.
[01:10:57]  Well, I think the subject right now is just pretty much pure immigration.
[01:11:01]  Although I don't deny that, obviously Hispanics work very hard.
[01:11:03]  I've seen that my entire life.
[01:11:04]  I mean, I grew up at Jehovah's Witness, so it's like all there were were like undocumented immigrants.
[01:11:09]  At the same time, the issue right now in the country is that it's so overstrained on our public resources that although there are people who are hardworking, it's just like we don't necessarily need that extra occupancy until we get everything figured out as to how we modify things.
[01:11:24]  Thing is that, yeah, to get to that point, I mean, I'm very involved on, you know, on this immigration stuff.
[01:11:30]  During the four years of Biden, a lot of people that shouldn't be here came in here.
[01:11:35]  You know, I'm an immigrant, but I mean, that was a mess.
[01:11:38]  Again, I'm telling you because I work directly with Venezuelans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, you name it.
[01:11:44]  Are they legal?
[01:11:46]  So the ones that I have right now, they have a work permit.
[01:11:49]  All of them do?
[01:11:49]  Yeah, all of them.
[01:11:50]  Okay, good.
[01:11:51]  So, but I'm telling you, there was a time, you know, that I will hire, let's just say, a Venezuelan, and it turns out that this guy was being, you know, followed by the Venezuelan government for whatever reason.
[01:12:01]  He killed somebody.
[01:12:02]  He did something really horrible.
[01:12:04]  Okay.
[01:12:05]  But yeah, I have to agree that during the four years of Biden, a lot of people shouldn't have come here.
[01:12:10]  And the same Venezuelan people, the same Cuban people told me, Maduro, Madru is just letting people out of the jails, out of mental institutions.
[01:12:20]  That was for real.
[01:12:21]  I mean, whoever doesn't believe that, you believe in another line because it was for real.
[01:12:26]  Like these governments were letting people out just to come here and basically do a mess, you know?
[01:12:32]  Well, that's the thing.
[01:12:32]  They were cleaning out their own countries.
[01:12:33]  And the economy of their countries basically depend on the remittances from this country.
[01:12:37]  But my issue is that from that decision that Biden took, it's reflective of the fact that immigration is a tool that they use politically, where it's like if they use a bulk subset of people who are not assimilating, if they use a bulk subset of people who don't share the same temperaments, habits, values of the people in this country, it's much easier to propagandize them against the natives' interests.

=== Corporate Illegal Immigration (15:38) ===

[01:12:57]  Absolutely.
[01:12:58]  That's why, I mean, I'm pro-immigration, like I said.
[01:13:02]  But yeah, I mean, this, you know, Democrats usually bring people so they can vote for them.
[01:13:08]  That's how I see it.
[01:13:09]  I've seen it firsthand.
[01:13:10]  I mean, these people, I cannot just understand, you know, I've seen a lot of Venezuelans, a lot of Cubans, like they just step foot.
[01:13:18]  Let's just say when Biden was here, they just step foot here in the States and they get food stamps.
[01:13:23]  They get a phone.
[01:13:24]  They get a hotel.
[01:13:26]  And, you know, I've been here, I don't know, for more than 15 years and I never got anything just because I'm Mexican, you know.
[01:13:32]  But this whole propaganda that Biden had, you know, you have to come to, you can come to the state and you will get all your stuff free.
[01:13:40]  That was for real.
[01:13:41]  Well, that's the thing that I also think.
[01:13:42]  And I agree with your statement.
[01:13:44]  Like, yeah.
[01:13:44]  That's the thing that I have as an issue, though, is that people tend to, and it's something that's reflective of this podcast a lot, they put the burden on the individual because obviously we live in a post-WASP society.
[01:13:54]  But in reality, these systems, these welfare systems of, you know, the phone, the whatever, it's all kind of like corporatism marrying socialism and benefiting the elites that basically are seeing profit by ushering in and controlling these people's lives.
[01:14:09]  Where it's like, the issue isn't necessarily with the individuals.
[01:14:13]  The problem is with the system itself.
[01:14:14]  If you're to start chastising every individual, it's going to take forever.
[01:14:17]  But if you start chastising the mechanisms that be, that might solve things a little faster.
[01:14:21]  Yeah, and again, I believe also that, you know, there's the actual people that come from Venezuela or Cuba or Nicaragua, let's put it that way.
[01:14:30]  They're usually not liberals because they come from that government.
[01:14:34]  They come from socialism.
[01:14:35]  They come from dictatorships.
[01:14:37]  Like all my, you know, the people that I know that are Venezuelan, Cuban, you know, they hate, they hate with heart, like liberals or Democrats because of the reason, because they know what it is.
[01:14:47]  You know, people here in the state don't know what actually socialism do to people.
[01:14:52]  Like they think that everything is just like, you know, like a little cartoon that everything is for free.
[01:14:57]  Here's your free stuff.
[01:14:58]  You're going to get it for free.
[01:14:59]  Nothing is going to happen.
[01:15:00]  The money's not going to come from anywhere.
[01:15:02]  But, you know, that's very oblivious.
[01:15:04]  But that's the thing is that, and it's an issue that I have.
[01:15:06]  Once again, I love Hispanics.
[01:15:07]  I am Hispanic.
[01:15:08]  I love them.
[01:15:09]  Just everything.
[01:15:10]  But the issue is, much like women with marriage, Hispanics with green cards is contingent on whether they're going to vote Republican or Democrat.
[01:15:18]  And my issue is: if our values are so conservative, why is it that when you come here, you vote liberal and Democrat when you know that's going to support things like pro-abortion and like gay marriage and all of this jazz?
[01:15:29]  And it's like you're backing down on your own religious, moral, Christian, you know, societal values just to get material benefits for yourself.
[01:15:38]  And that is reflective of a poor character that you don't necessarily want in any nation.
[01:15:43]  That is right.
[01:15:43]  You know what we need to do?
[01:15:44]  No more illegal immigrants.
[01:15:46]  We've got to fucking deport them all.
[01:15:48]  That's what we've got to do.
[01:15:50]  I don't necessarily agree because I mean...
[01:15:53]  Why?
[01:15:54]  Because immigrants, we do a lot of things.
[01:15:56]  Well, hold on.
[01:15:58]  No, I did specify illegal immigrants.
[01:16:01]  Although we should probably reduce the legal immigrants we allow in also substantially.
[01:16:06]  I mean, I agree in certain things of that, but again, I think the way the government is doing it right now, I don't necessarily agree the way they're deporting, okay?
[01:16:16]  I don't know.
[01:16:17]  What are they doing specifically that you disagree with?
[01:16:21]  I mean, I just feel, I mean, I know this has happened all the time with all the presidents.
[01:16:26]  I know that.
[01:16:26]  I'm not that stupid.
[01:16:28]  I just feel like, you know, they're being too harsh to people, and that's why it's getting a bad rep. I entirely agree with you.
[01:16:35]  Entirely agree with you.
[01:16:36]  I mean, the issue is that they're trying to make this like huge propaganda of how brutal they're making it, but the numbers don't reflect the brutality.
[01:16:42]  So it's almost like they're setting it up to fail in the first part, where it's like, okay, we want these people out for sure, but you're marketing it in such a terrible way that you're losing the public's interest in it, which is like wholly on it.
[01:16:54]  But ask yourself why.
[01:16:56]  Look what happened when Kamala got up and said, don't come here.
[01:16:59]  They came by the millions.
[01:17:00]  So they are showing a no-nonsense approach.
[01:17:03]  Look, this is going to happen to you.
[01:17:04]  You won't be able to get back into the country for 10 years.
[01:17:06]  That's true, but why don't they then target the people who are hiring the illegal immigrants?
[01:17:09]  Why don't they target the welfare programs that are basically?
[01:17:13]  They should, but they're not doing it.
[01:17:14]  They're making it as ugly and as harmful as possible for the public image of it, which is only going to hurt the cause.
[01:17:20]  Meanwhile, they're not materially doing anything to actually get those numbers out of the city.
[01:17:23]  I don't even understand.
[01:17:24]  I mean, look, there were deportations.
[01:17:28]  There were deportations under Obama.
[01:17:30]  There were deportations under Barbara.
[01:17:32]  Much of the media attention on the deportations, by the way, and they were apprehending, you know, the way they were apprehending these people has not changed substantially ever since Trump became president.
[01:17:43]  It's just there's political motive now because this is going to be like a point to sort of push people to the polls to vote Democrat in the upcoming election.
[01:17:54]  And so there was none of this attention on ICE, really, at least to this degree, when Obama was president, when Biden was president.
[01:18:01]  It's a sign.
[01:18:03]  Totally, in 2016, CNN did a piece, look it up.
[01:18:06]  And they were calling the illegal immigrants targets, and they were praising Obama, and they were acting like he was doing this great thing and protecting United States citizens.
[01:18:15]  So it's just kind of crazy over the last decade, it's flopped.
[01:18:18]  And now all of a sudden, all this negative media attention is not a problem.
[01:18:20]  That's what I'm not trying to say.
[01:18:22]  Because again, I'm not against ICE.
[01:18:26]  I'm not against deportations because, yes, a lot of people came here that shouldn't be here.
[01:18:30]  Like, let's just get that straight.
[01:18:32]  And I'm an immigrant and I love immigrant people.
[01:18:35]  Of course, I work.
[01:18:37]  Wait, hold on.
[01:18:38]  Everyone who crossed the border illegally or who is here illegally doesn't belong here.
[01:18:44]  Not just the violent criminals, all of them.
[01:18:48]  They all have to go.
[01:18:49]  Well, I don't agree with that.
[01:18:51]  I can't wait.
[01:18:52]  Well, they brought me that way.
[01:18:54]  I didn't have a choice, though.
[01:18:56]  They brought me.
[01:18:57]  Well, okay, so yes, obviously, if you're a minor and you're under the custody of your parents and they commit the crime and you're secondary to that.
[01:19:05]  But yes, you also, if you're here illegally, yeah, you're going to be deported too, or should be.
[01:19:10]  Well, again, but I try my ways to get situated.
[01:19:14]  You know, my husband is a U.S. citizenship, and that's the first thing we did.
[01:19:17]  Well, now you're legally here.
[01:19:18]  Yeah, now I'm legally here.
[01:19:19]  Originally, though, you were here illegally.
[01:19:21]  Yes, I stay alive.
[01:19:22]  Have your parents been deported?
[01:19:24]  No, no, they actually have a visa, a choice visa.
[01:19:27]  Well, that's the thing that I'm once again saying.
[01:19:28]  It's like everyone's falling for the propaganda psyop.
[01:19:31]  It's like you're once again looking at like these individuals that are coming over, but it's like who's ushering them in?
[01:19:36]  Who's giving them the welfare?
[01:19:37]  Who's giving them the Medicaid?
[01:19:38]  Who's giving them the promise?
[01:19:39]  And when it comes to Obama, they counted turnaways at the border as deportations.
[01:19:44]  They were flooding the numbers, but in reality, the immigrants were still coming in at like extraordinary rates.
[01:19:49]  Let's just talk to immigrants are still coming.
[01:19:51]  Yeah, they've always capitalized on like illegal stability.
[01:19:55]  This is a problem since the 70s, and it's only been multiplying.
[01:19:57]  I get it.
[01:19:58]  So once again, it's like blaming the individuals is not going to do anything because ultimately they're being incentivized to come over.
[01:20:04]  Hold on, you have to kill the incentive to stop them from coming.
[01:20:07]  Oh, hold on.
[01:20:08]  The government did it.
[01:20:08]  That's crazy.
[01:20:08]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:20:09]  Hold on.
[01:20:10]  That's crazy.
[01:20:10]  That's crazy policy advisement.
[01:20:13]  So, okay, first off.
[01:20:14]  How is it crazy?
[01:20:14]  Well, hold on, I'll explain it.
[01:20:16]  So, first off, if it is the case, and I think it is the case, that we aren't holding these companies responsible who are profiteering off of these illegal immigrants because you can pay them less or whatever, I'm 100% on board with you.
[01:20:29]  They ought to be prosecuted too.
[01:20:30]  I have no objection to that.
[01:20:32]  But saying that the blame should only be placed on the systems in place that enable this, sure, we can address that too.
[01:20:39]  But also, there needs to be a mechanism to actually remove the individuals from this country.
[01:20:44]  I agree.
[01:20:44]  Ergo deportation.
[01:20:46]  There was a repatriation act that happened in the 1920s during the Great Depression, where once they cut out welfare, once they cut out Medicaid, like 3 million Mexicans went back to Mexico immediately.
[01:20:55]  Once you remove the mechanisms to keep them here, the incentives to come here, they go away because they can't assimilate without those mechanisms.
[01:21:02]  Then you only retain those that can properly assimilate.
[01:21:04]  But so, okay, you're saying because they receive certain government benefits, that that is the reason why they're here.
[01:21:13]  Yes, schooling, because they get all the benefits.
[01:21:19]  Can I ask those questions?
[01:21:19]  Hold on one thing, one thing.
[01:21:21]  I would argue, even if all of those things were to disappear, most of the people that come here do so for economic reasons.
[01:21:28]  Even if there weren't government handouts and they weren't receiving benefits, there's a couple other factors here.
[01:21:33]  The United States is safer and it has a stronger economy.
[01:21:37]  So, should we just tank our own economy and make America unsafe so it's untenable for legal immigrants to come here?
[01:21:43]  You just said it, employment.
[01:21:45]  Who's employing them?
[01:21:46]  If they're not being, if they're only hiring Americans who are verified Americans, we wouldn't have this problem.
[01:21:51]  They wouldn't come over here.
[01:21:52]  There would be blockades.
[01:21:55]  Why are they hiding out?
[01:21:56]  Moreover, non-government organizations like HIS are the ones transporting them over here.
[01:22:01]  How is it?
[01:22:01]  Is it already illegal to employ?
[01:22:03]  Isn't it already illegal to employ an illegal immigrant?
[01:22:06]  It is illegal, but illegally, they come over here.
[01:22:08]  They do it everywhere.
[01:22:09]  Yeah, they do it everywhere.
[01:22:10]  I mean, this is gonna, it's not gonna stop.
[01:22:12]  It has always happened.
[01:22:13]  I mean, when I got here to the States, I got employed at what, 16 or 17, I got employed at a Mexican restaurant.
[01:22:19]  They didn't ask me for an ID, they didn't ask me for anything but just show up tomorrow at 7 a.m.
[01:22:25]  And basically, I didn't know any English because I was, you know, I came from Mexico and I was just speaking Spanish.
[01:22:32]  And, but, yeah, I mean, you that's never gonna stop.
[01:22:34]  That has happened since, again, like 2010.
[01:22:36]  So, with your employees, I know that they're you know legally able to be here and whatnot because of their work visas, but are you paying them under the table?
[01:22:43]  No, they actually, no, no, no, no, right.
[01:22:46]  Everything is legal.
[01:22:47]  The entire process of illegal immigration, it's like a huge trafficking ring in and of itself.
[01:22:51]  That the same corporations that are hiring these illegals are using their bodies, their organs, their sex, everything to basically fund their own non-government organizations, the government.
[01:23:00]  The worst thing is that we get pay very minimum.
[01:23:03]  When I started working, I was getting paid $18, $50 a day working from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. $50 a day.
[01:23:10]  Yeah, and the employer should be prosecuted.
[01:23:12]  Chono, you wanted to jump in?
[01:23:14]  Oh, yeah, I was just going to say, I don't know if illegal immigration completely demerits welfare programs because those also benefit non-illegal immigrants, if I'm not mistaken, in the U.S.
[01:23:22]  Sure, but it needs calibration.
[01:23:23]  Right now, it's being completely abused.
[01:23:25]  We can't do it.
[01:23:26]  But you're saying to like cut down those welfare programs for the people that are illegal and not paying them.
[01:23:30]  They're clean down directly.
[01:23:31]  Yeah, completely.
[01:23:32]  If they're not paying into it, why would they give them completely or cut it?
[01:23:34]  No, you have to cut down who's on it.
[01:23:36]  So basically, there's a bunch of Americans in the Rust Belt who are addicted to meth, who are struggling because there's no jobs in the Rust Belt, and they're not getting the welfare that they're supposed to get for all of the taxes and for all of the heritage that they have in this country.
[01:23:47]  And instead, it's going to people who just arrived.
[01:23:50]  I do agree that those people should have priority with welfare programs.
[01:23:52]  It's not a priority.
[01:23:53]  It should go to them.
[01:23:53]  That's what it was designated for.
[01:23:55]  We pay into it.
[01:23:56]  We work.
[01:23:57]  They're being disenfranchised.
[01:23:58]  That's why the American populace is being destroyed.
[01:24:00]  Women in that area are now just absolutely unstable.
[01:24:02]  And this could certainly boost up the birth population if they were actually aided.
[01:24:08]  I just thought you were kind of criticizing those programs.
[01:24:10]  No, I'm for welfare.
[01:24:11]  I love welfare.
[01:24:13]  Well, actually, with welfare, I have a hot take on this.
[01:24:14]  I think that when somebody signs up for any type of government assistance, while they're signing up for it, they should relinquish their right to vote.
[01:24:20]  Correct.
[01:24:20]  That's true.
[01:24:21]  Yeah.
[01:24:21]  It's like you can't be dependent on the government and then vote to influence the government.
[01:24:26]  I also think you should take a drug test.
[01:24:28]  Correct.
[01:24:29]  Oh, that's a big white.
[01:24:30]  I completely disagree with that because those individuals who are on those welfare programs are still completely subject to help the people.
[01:24:37]  Administration and the presidency.
[01:24:39]  So they're affected by it.
[01:24:40]  Should they not be able to contribute to voting in a way?
[01:24:43]  No, because they would just vote for more free shit.
[01:24:46]  Correct.
[01:24:46]  I don't think that's a good idea.
[01:24:48]  If you give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day.
[01:24:50]  If you promise a man another man's fish, he'll vote for you.
[01:24:52]  Not only that, it's like we are subject to that person's.
[01:24:55]  Everyone votes for what possibility.
[01:24:57]  We become their slaves.
[01:24:58]  Not all of us.
[01:24:59]  Billionaires will vote for what possibility.
[01:25:00]  How does banning abortion benefit me?
[01:25:01]  That doesn't benefit me.
[01:25:04]  How does banning slavery and protecting these young black ladies right here?
[01:25:07]  How does that benefit me?
[01:25:08]  It doesn't.
[01:25:09]  I agree.
[01:25:09]  And like, we should vote.
[01:25:11]  And some of us vote for other people and what would be beneficial.
[01:25:15]  Are you saying only black people have been enslaved, or I think all of us have been enslaved at some point?
[01:25:18]  Yeah, yeah, I know at some point, yeah.
[01:25:20]  I'm just saying, under the worldview you mentioned, like billionaires who vote for what benefits themselves, like that should also not be allowed.
[01:25:26]  Yeah, because you can't always be aware of that.
[01:25:27]  Because the few hundred are a low amount of thousand billionaires that live in America that swing elections.
[01:25:32]  You could point out an exception of someone who's reliant on a welfare program who's like a man who would still vote for like things like to do with abortion.
[01:25:38]  That doesn't affect him.
[01:25:39]  I don't think billionaire should be able to be international.
[01:25:42]  I think that if you're in this country doing business, you should be reflective of the heritage of this country.
[01:25:46]  You shouldn't have a multinational corporation that's influencing multiple countries for their own commerce.
[01:25:50]  I don't know what that has to do with what I'm saying.
[01:25:51]  Hold on, really quick.
[01:25:53]  The champagne pot from Robert Tanner.
[01:25:55]  Who would like champagne?
[01:25:57]  Me.
[01:25:58]  So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
[01:26:04]  Okay, can we get seven cups?
[01:26:07]  You know what?
[01:26:07]  Here, Nathan, let me just have you pour back there for me, okay?
[01:26:11]  And then you'll hand out the cups.
[01:26:14]  Here, hold on, let me.
[01:26:15]  Yeah, yeah, stay there.
[01:26:17]  Thank you, Metro Matt.
[01:26:18]  Metro Matt donated $200.
[01:26:21]  I love big booty Latinas.
[01:26:23]  Yeah.
[01:26:23]  American women are not dropped as close.
[01:26:25]  That is all.
[01:26:26]  Yo, Metro Matt, thank you, man.
[01:26:28]  Appreciate the TTSW's in the chat for Metro Matt.
[01:26:31]  Big booty Latinas.
[01:26:33]  There are big booty white girls.
[01:26:35]  Who's spiritually?
[01:26:37]  White girl evolving, okay?
[01:26:39]  I will say immigrants, not just there are.
[01:26:44]  My almost four-year-old is actually in a Venezuelan-run preschool, and he's completely bilingual.
[01:26:49]  And like, those women, they take such good, but they are here to go.
[01:26:53]  So the Quality Learning Center?
[01:26:55]  What's that?
[01:26:56]  The Quality Learning Center.
[01:26:57]  To her point, they're actually very conservative and they're here legally.
[01:27:01]  But yeah, Arkansas is very strict on immigration, so they wouldn't be running a business.
[01:27:05]  We do have a chat here from Gig William.
[01:27:07]  Why does illegal immigration dominate the national debate while corporate reliance on foreign labor from countries like China gets a free pass?
[01:27:15]  I don't think it does.
[01:27:16]  I mean, I say the same thing.
[01:27:18]  Well, I mean, we manufacture a lot in China.
[01:27:20]  What's that?
[01:27:21]  We manufacture a lot in China.
[01:27:23]  We should have been to the Rust Belt.
[01:27:24]  I'm glad I finished that.
[01:27:24]  Yeah.
[01:27:25]  Went to China.
[01:27:26]  Yeah.
[01:27:27]  They passed a bunch of regulation in the 1970s and 1980s made it economically impossible to manufacture in Chicago and Detroit and everything, everywhere in the Rust Belt got exported to China.
[01:27:35]  The Libs basically ruined America with that.
[01:27:37]  No, that's the liberal dragon.
[01:27:39]  But that's the thing that I had as an argument.
[01:27:42]  Why are we putting the onus on all of the immigrants instead of recognizing the people who own and run this country betrayed their own people?
[01:27:50]  If I have a bullet and there was a traitor and an enemy, you give it to the traitor, not the enemy.
[01:27:58]  Am I wrong?
[01:27:59]  No, I'm not wrong.
[01:28:01]  You would give it to an illegal immigrant over like...
[01:28:03]  No, I would give it to my enemy.
[01:28:05]  Or my traitor, rather.
[01:28:06]  Someone who betrays me, I would give it to them, not an enemy.
[01:28:08]  And I don't see illegal immigrants as my enemy.
[01:28:10]  I see them as someone who's being incentivized to basically be propagandized against my best interests.
[01:28:15]  So who's the best?
[01:28:16]  But you assume we're the same.
[01:28:17]  Who's the traitor then?
[01:28:18]  Multinational corporations.
[01:28:19]  Okay.
[01:28:19]  And the government.
[01:28:20]  I think it's a mixture.
[01:28:21]  Yeah, they work together, basically.
[01:28:22]  The multinational corporations own our politicians.
[01:28:26]  It's corporate illegal immigration.
[01:28:28]  Illegal immigration is funded by the government, which is owned by multinational corporations that benefit from the scab labor.
[01:28:33]  Absolutely.
[01:28:34]  So I'm.
[01:28:35]  Sorry.

=== Racism And Prejudice (14:23) ===

[01:28:36]  Have Tiffany handed out.
[01:28:37]  When you say multinational corporations, like, what do you mean by that?
[01:28:40]  Like big tech companies or tech companies, I suppose.
[01:28:42]  But I was thinking more like anything that's under the World Economic Forum or, I guess, meta.
[01:28:48]  NGOs.
[01:28:49]  NGOs, but they're government.
[01:28:50]  They're not corporations.
[01:28:52]  So you're like anti-big corporation?
[01:28:54]  Yes.
[01:28:54]  I'm anti-banks.
[01:28:56]  It's actually a little bit like liberal.
[01:28:57]  No, it's not at all.
[01:28:58]  It's very anti-Semitic of you.
[01:28:59]  It's very anti-Semitic.
[01:29:00]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:29:02]  No, it's not liberal at all.
[01:29:03]  This is a lot of people.
[01:29:04]  They aren't pro-capitalism.
[01:29:05]  Liberalism was a product of capitalism.
[01:29:07]  It's a Masonic concept that came from individualism, selling out your heritage, selling out whatever.
[01:29:11]  That's why you don't have a problem with illegal immigration.
[01:29:13]  You have no heritage.
[01:29:14]  I never.
[01:29:15]  When did I say I had no problem with that?
[01:29:17]  You want them to have welfare?
[01:29:18]  That's a huge issue.
[01:29:19]  I didn't say that.
[01:29:20]  I just said.
[01:29:22]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:29:22]  Okay, anyway.
[01:29:24]  So when it comes to illegal immigration, that's a reflection that you're betraying your own cultural and religious and heritage values, which is a product of liberalism.
[01:29:31]  But capitalism is intertwined with liberalism.
[01:29:33]  That's why leftists say they hate liberals, even though most leftists are liberals themselves.
[01:29:37]  Okay, I mean, instead of the word liberal, like you could say there's like leftists who have beliefs that are stupid, to put it in.
[01:29:43]  Slightly aligned with socialist ideas.
[01:29:46]  Social?
[01:29:46]  No, that's Marxism.
[01:29:47]  They're more like democratic socialism, like that sort of thing.
[01:29:50]  Well, it depends on what is democratic socialism.
[01:29:52]  Like kind of like Mamdani's campaign, for example.
[01:29:54]  No, but like you can tell me what it is.
[01:29:55]  No, that's working out real well.
[01:29:57]  What is democratic socialism?
[01:29:58]  I hear someone's money.
[01:29:58]  Kind of like focusing on resources for the public, things of that sort.
[01:30:02]  But they pretend to do that, not wires in their pockets.
[01:30:06]  But who's the democracy that's reflecting?
[01:30:08]  Who's getting the benefits?
[01:30:10]  Is it the natives?
[01:30:11]  Not the public, because the public could include illegal immigrants.
[01:30:13]  It could include everyone's getting the benefits.
[01:30:15]  Like in New York, if there's like free public transportation, everyone has access to their transportation.
[01:30:21]  If I'm getting something free, I'm speaking of the idea, not just a fairly fair.
[01:30:25]  If I am for public transportation, healthcare, housing, all of that jazz, which I am, I want it to be for the people who are of that blood and belong to that nation.
[01:30:33]  I don't want it to be for someone that has absolutely no heritage, no interest, no roots there.
[01:30:38]  At that point, you're basically incentivizing traders to come over and vote against your best interests to change the culture.
[01:30:43]  Well, my belief regarding illegal immigration is that there should be as much done as possible to prevent it in the first place.
[01:30:49]  And if it comes down to deportation, I understand that, although I don't agree with a lot of ICE's methodology.
[01:30:54]  I think deportation is like the weakest way to do it.
[01:30:56]  It's a physical action.
[01:30:58]  You should do it in a pragmatic way first.
[01:30:59]  That's why I say I think it's a psyop.
[01:31:01]  I think that the whole violent deportation thing is to subvert deportation's popularity.
[01:31:06]  I think that if you remove the mechanisms behind it, people would naturally and peacefully leave, and there would be no cultural division, no culture wars.
[01:31:13]  No one would be arguing about it.
[01:31:14]  Everyone would coalesce.
[01:31:16]  We are paying people $5,000.
[01:31:18]  Hold on, really quick.
[01:31:19]  I got to do a little shout out for Robert Tanner.
[01:31:21]  Robert Tanner, cheers, Sadlu.
[01:31:24]  Thank you for the champagne pop at the beginning of the stream there.
[01:31:25]  Appreciate it, man.
[01:31:26]  Thank you for calling American Women Shopped.
[01:31:30]  I don't think that was Robert Tanner.
[01:31:32]  Okay, sorry, Robert.
[01:31:33]  Did he?
[01:31:33]  I don't think that was right.
[01:31:35]  Hey, don't slander.
[01:31:36]  It's already kicked out.
[01:31:39]  Don't slander my boy, Robert Tanner.
[01:31:41]  Okay, sorry, Robert.
[01:31:42]  Sorry.
[01:31:42]  Really quick, thank you to Destiny.
[01:31:45]  I don't think it's that desktop.
[01:31:47]  Okay.
[01:31:48]  Oh, did that even show?
[01:31:50]  Thank you for the merch purchase there.
[01:31:53]  And then we have, let's see.
[01:31:56]  Rowe.
[01:31:57]  Thank you for the Australian 160.
[01:32:00]  The UN and the globalist elite are the biggest threat to Western culture.
[01:32:02]  They have literally funded the population movement over the last 20 years and also been behind the feminist revolution that has destroyed the single-income family from Rowe.
[01:32:11]  Thank you for the thank you, Mate.
[01:32:13]  That was probably terrible, but thank you, man.
[01:32:15]  Appreciate it.
[01:32:16]  Thank you for the super chat there.
[01:32:17]  Thank you for the soup chats.
[01:32:18]  Appreciate it, guys.
[01:32:19]  Quick reminder, guys, $10 display, $100 read, $200 TTS.
[01:32:24]  TTS does get priority.
[01:32:29]  Okay, where were we from?
[01:32:30]  Well, I was about to say we are giving these illegal immigrants $5,000, some of them, to leave.
[01:32:36]  What country does that?
[01:32:38]  So to sit here and act like we're these bad people, they're breaking a law and we're still giving them money.
[01:32:42]  We actually have a great solution.
[01:32:43]  That's not why we're calling them.
[01:32:45]  We never had to do what I said.
[01:32:49]  Well, let me tell you something about those $5,000.
[01:32:51]  They were actually not receiving it.
[01:32:54]  I know a lot of people that were not receiving it.
[01:32:56]  What's your solution?
[01:32:57]  Yeah, so I was going to say a great solution to stop illegal immigration.
[01:33:00]  This wouldn't help the ones here.
[01:33:01]  But to stop it would play state border guard every mile along the border wall and shoot anyone that crosses on site.
[01:33:08]  And so what it would be, though, is it would be peace through strength.
[01:33:11]  So basically nobody in their right mind would cross over if they know that they're going to get shot right away.
[01:33:15]  Nobody would.
[01:33:16]  So if a mother's bringing her child across the border, if a child gets shot.
[01:33:20]  I understand that.
[01:33:21]  I understand that, but nobody would do it.
[01:33:23]  And if somebody does do it, some 21-year-old guy is like, hey, man, let's go to America, man.
[01:33:28]  And they try to hop over the border.
[01:33:29]  They're going to get shot.
[01:33:30]  One person gets shot and nobody would cross the border.
[01:33:32]  A child getting shot is a better scenario than a child existing illegally.
[01:33:37]  It would be better than thousands of children being trafficked through the southern border every year.
[01:33:40]  Do you see what I mean?
[01:33:41]  I think you're using the most unpopular optics and you're using the most empathetic appeal and it's a culture divide which could be resolved easier by just addressing the corporate multinational companies that are incentivizing.
[01:33:51]  How do we address that?
[01:33:52]  You basically stop doing this whole exchange that is like absolutely stupid and instead you focus on why exactly are these illegal immigrants from all over the world being incentivized and how exactly are they coming over here when they don't have an education?
[01:34:04]  Like how do they know English?
[01:34:05]  How do they know the navigation processes here?
[01:34:07]  They don't someone is funneling them over.
[01:34:10]  Someone's trafficking them.
[01:34:11]  Everyone gets here they don't know.
[01:34:13]  But I mean I got to the Western civilization.
[01:34:15]  I mean my culture is totally different from here and I had to learn everything from zero.
[01:34:20]  I mean again I had to learn English.
[01:34:22]  I went to school here.
[01:34:23]  I did everything necessary to fit into the Western culture.
[01:34:26]  I wouldn't say you're not part of Western culture because you're Christian though.
[01:34:29]  I assume you're Christian.
[01:34:30]  I think that maximum people are Westerns and Western languages.
[01:34:35]  It's different language and yeah there's a difference in culture for sure you know I mean Mexicans we you know we like a lot of different things from Americans for sure.
[01:34:43]  But you know the thing the problem I don't think you know Hispanics like thing Hispanics we get you know we get very used to this culture the Western culture I feel like the people get used to you guys though so that's the problem I mean that's that's you probably because you know you have been talking about big booty Latinas this entire time and like wait a minute what do you mean you're not My husband is as white as you.
[01:35:05]  My husband is white.
[01:35:06]  You had Christy Noam celebrating her birthday at a Mexican restaurant.
[01:35:09]  Yeah.
[01:35:10]  White people love Mexicans.
[01:35:12]  That's being tolerant of Mexican culture, though.
[01:35:14]  I'm just saying.
[01:35:15]  That's the thing.
[01:35:15]  Because you're being bordered doesn't mean you're not intolerant or intolerant to the illegal way of them coming over here, not intolerant to their culture.
[01:35:21]  That's the lie.
[01:35:22]  I don't want to restore Mexico that doesn't have Mexicans in it.
[01:35:25]  Or that's what he's talking about.
[01:35:25]  But we're not intolerant to their culture.
[01:35:27]  We're intolerant to people who come over here.
[01:35:28]  Sometimes they are.
[01:35:29]  That's the thing that the friction itself is so manufactured.
[01:35:32]  I'm like, wait a minute.
[01:35:33]  Americans in general have even positive opinions when it comes to Hispanics.
[01:35:37]  They just don't like the laws being broken and the numbers of people coming over, but there's really no vitriol there.
[01:35:42]  No, always.
[01:35:42]  The third vitriol is in itself contrived to distract oneself once again from the multinational corporations and non-government organizations funneling them over.
[01:35:49]  Wait, so do you think there exists like zero prejudice or judgment regarding like Mexicans and Hispanics in the U.S.?
[01:35:55]  In my experience, Mexicans are more hostile to Mexicans themselves.
[01:35:58]  Like Hispanics are way more racist to other Hispanics.
[01:36:01]  Honestly, when it comes to white people, the most that they've ever done is just be like, where do you come from, Mexico?
[01:36:06]  And it's like, I'm not Mexican.
[01:36:07]  So that's about as much prejudice as I've ever faced.
[01:36:11]  Okay.
[01:36:11]  I mean, there's probably someone who's faced more prejudice out there.
[01:36:13]  But I'm like, congratulations on the anecdotal fantasy that you have right now.
[01:36:17]  But at the end of the day, it's like, I don't think if they were facing prejudice, it would kind of deter them from coming over, and yet they're still coming over in droves.
[01:36:23]  I don't think it's a good idea.
[01:36:24]  But because they're still the economic benefits that they're seeking, right?
[01:36:27]  I mean, that in itself is a form that they're not being prejudiced against.
[01:36:30]  If they were discriminated against, they wouldn't come over because then they couldn't get jobs or welfare early.
[01:36:35]  That's social.
[01:36:37]  Employment is a social thing.
[01:36:38]  That's why you're on public social services if you don't have a job.
[01:36:41]  Okay, say you have a job, but like you're discriminated by other members of society.
[01:36:44]  Boo-hoo!
[01:36:44]  People have thicker skin.
[01:36:45]  I mean, she crossed the Rio Grande.
[01:36:47]  I mean, like, oh my God, they call me out saying that.
[01:36:50]  It's like only Americans are that.
[01:36:51]  So that wouldn't deter them, is what I'm saying.
[01:36:53]  Yeah.
[01:36:55]  I'm like, I don't care.
[01:36:56]  And not Americans.
[01:36:57]  I take that back.
[01:36:57]  Not Americans.
[01:36:58]  Liberal Americans who have nothing to complain about, so they found it.
[01:37:01]  They live in a bubble.
[01:37:01]  Okay, Janet.
[01:37:03]  They really don't care how they came out.
[01:37:04]  No, exactly.
[01:37:06]  Like, wealthy, well-off, like, middle-class girls who are like, I literally have nothing to complain about, but I have to come up with something to look like a good person.
[01:37:12]  Because you don't know how good you have it.
[01:37:14]  Yeah, literally.
[01:37:15]  Can I ask you?
[01:37:15]  You guys are making the same point as I made.
[01:37:17]  If a Mexican immigrant had a job and they received some prejudice, they wouldn't care because they have a job.
[01:37:22]  Everyone has a lot of people.
[01:37:24]  Everyone is prejudiced.
[01:37:25]  It's so inconsequential, we literally don't even care.
[01:37:28]  She just made the same point.
[01:37:29]  And not only that, we're like, if anything, even preferred, because as we've already commented, a lot of men like Hispanic women, a lot of women like Hispanic men.
[01:37:37]  They're supporting the point that she's trying to say.
[01:37:39]  I made that point initially.
[01:37:40]  No, once again, I have never faced any discrimination.
[01:37:42]  I think the most discrimination you face is just documentation status.
[01:37:45]  That's about it.
[01:37:46]  It's just documentation.
[01:37:47]  That doesn't even just apply to Hispanic.
[01:37:48]  That means that you're not.
[01:37:49]  No one has ever discriminated just because you're Hispanic.
[01:37:52]  They discriminate because of your documentality.
[01:37:54]  It was like names for Mexican people.
[01:37:56]  What is it?
[01:37:57]  It starts with a B. I'm not going to say it.
[01:37:58]  That's not even a big one.
[01:38:00]  We laugh.
[01:38:01]  We laugh.
[01:38:01]  It gives you a Mexican.
[01:38:03]  I don't care that Hispanics have you.
[01:38:05]  The biggest lure.
[01:38:06]  The biggest slur came from liberals calling us Latin X, invalidating our culture.
[01:38:11]  That was the most detestable thing anyone's ever called me.
[01:38:13]  Okay.
[01:38:14]  That is true.
[01:38:14]  Literally.
[01:38:16]  Literally, if they were trying to decolonize Spanish, I'm like, wait a minute.
[01:38:19]  At this point now, I understand the most Dutch person in the world.
[01:38:22]  I am now being annoyed.
[01:38:24]  Can I chime in with that?
[01:38:25]  She said, no Hispanic or Mexican in the U.S. has ever received any sort of racist judgment.
[01:38:30]  100%.
[01:38:31]  Everyone received that.
[01:38:33]  I think white people have received more racist judgment than the average Hispanic in their own nation, including Europe.
[01:38:38]  In their own nation.
[01:38:39]  And if you pay us, don't come over here.
[01:38:41]  I agree.
[01:38:42]  By the multinational corporations and minorities who are not technically minorities because they're like global majorities.
[01:38:49]  Being basically entitled to the benefits that should go to Americans.
[01:38:52]  If you're for socialism, if you're for welfare, why exactly are you for disenfranchising American people who are not receiving the welfare that is going to those who are serving multinational corporations' needs?
[01:39:01]  If you're so against billionaires, why exactly are you for the people that they're importing getting the welfare that is not going to the majority of the people?
[01:39:07]  I never said it was for them for sure.
[01:39:08]  You literally just said it for illegal immigrants.
[01:39:10]  You can continue basically moving the goalpost, but you're right.
[01:39:13]  Earlier, I'm not for illegal immigrants.
[01:39:14]  Latina power right there.
[01:39:15]  Literally, I know.
[01:39:16]  Anything racism against my delivery is just racism against my heritage.
[01:39:19]  It's like, I'm literally so affronted right now.
[01:39:21]  How could you prejudice against me?
[01:39:23]  I'm literally about to cry.
[01:39:24]  Like, I was complimenting.
[01:39:25]  Wait, can I say something really quick?
[01:39:28]  Can I say something really quick?
[01:39:29]  Arkansas has been really strict.
[01:39:31]  This goes back to the psyop of the ICE agents because they've been in my town for over a year.
[01:39:35]  We've been using our jails as a detention center, and not one violent gang outburst of protests have occurred.
[01:39:43]  Anyways, I digress.
[01:39:44]  I met a family at a park one day who was from Guatemala.
[01:39:50]  And I said, Oh, did you move here from Guatemala?
[01:39:52]  And they said, No, I actually moved here from Colorado.
[01:39:54]  Do you remember when the Venezuelan gangs were, quote, not terrorizing the neighborhoods?
[01:39:59]  Yeah.
[01:39:59]  They said they had to leave because these Venezuelan gangs were so bad.
[01:40:03]  They were terrorizing their neighborhoods.
[01:40:04]  And so these illegal immigrants that were not vetted were actually harming the legal immigrants who came here, paid their dues, working hard, paying taxes, and they had to move because they didn't feel safe.
[01:40:16]  So we're actually, when you sit in a bubble and say, oh, you're so mean, you're living outside of reality because they're actually, you live in a bubble, and these people are the ones getting affected by the illegal immigration.
[01:40:27]  You're not affected by it.
[01:40:28]  And you're over here on your little palace stool talking, oh, these white people are so mean.
[01:40:33]  I didn't say white women were mean.
[01:40:35]  I never said that.
[01:40:35]  I just said there's probably Hispanics who receive judgment in the U.S. Troy, thank you.
[01:40:40]  That was my only claim.
[01:40:41]  Troy, thank you for the 10.
[01:40:43]  Blake, thank you for the 10.
[01:40:43]  Appreciate it, guys.
[01:40:44]  We also have another shit.
[01:40:49]  Robert Tanner donated $1,000.
[01:40:51]  Are you on Discord?
[01:40:52]  Thanks, Brian, for what you do.
[01:40:54]  Thank you, man.
[01:40:55]  Thanks for the show.
[01:40:56]  Thank you, Dick.
[01:40:57]  What is a country?
[01:40:58]  That's what is an American.
[01:40:59]  Yo, thank you for that question.
[01:41:00]  I'm going to ask it here in just a moment.
[01:41:01]  Robert, can you message me on Discord?
[01:41:04]  I think I have your right username, but I think your username and Discord might be different.
[01:41:09]  Can you send me a message really quick, man?
[01:41:12]  Yeah, but thank you.
[01:41:13]  So the question is: what is a country?
[01:41:14]  What is an American?
[01:41:15]  We can do that super quick, and then we'll go back, starting with you.
[01:41:20]  A country, I guess, would be like a globally recognized state with a population, probably like by my personal opinion, like recognized by the UN.
[01:41:31]  Okay, what about you?
[01:41:33]  So I think a country is basically land where actually there's population and yeah, it's recognized globally.
[01:41:41]  And what is an American?
[01:41:43]  I mean, American, I will say, is everybody that lives in the American continent.
[01:41:48]  So, yeah.
[01:41:49]  You know what?
[01:41:50]  Because I can preemptively, I'm actually out of telepathy.
[01:41:53]  I can actually read everyone's mind on this.
[01:41:55]  So I'm just going to a country is a distinct defined area of land, such as a nation or state that is usually politically independent with its own government population and borders.
[01:42:05]  And then what is an American?
[01:42:06]  Americans are citizens or nationals of the United States of America.
[01:42:10]  Period.
[01:42:10]  I disagree.
[01:42:11]  Disagree.
[01:42:12]  That's what the Google says.
[01:42:14]  Are we talking about North America, South America, Latin America?
[01:42:17]  You know what?
[01:42:18]  Let's do this.
[01:42:19]  Let's finish up going around the table on the would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant?
[01:42:25]  So I don't know where we left off.
[01:42:28]  Into the microphone, illegal immigrant.
[01:42:29]  Closer to the microphone.
[01:42:30]  Yeah.
[01:42:31]  Okay.
[01:42:31]  What about you?
[01:42:32]  I dated a hardcore liberal, and that was tough.
[01:42:34]  So definitely a legal immigrant.
[01:42:37]  Illegal immigrant.
[01:42:39]  They're both very bad options.
[01:42:41]  The liberal, very emotional men.
[01:42:43]  I'm a tough woman.
[01:42:44]  I can't deal with that.
[01:42:45]  And an illegal immigrant, I would have to be responsible for him if he commits a crime.
[01:42:49]  But I would probably have to go with the illegal immigrant because we would probably share the same morals and values.
[01:42:54]  Illegal immigrant.
[01:42:57]  A liberal.

=== Gun Safety In Compton (15:07) ===

[01:42:59]  I can change him.
[01:42:59]  I can make him.
[01:43:01]  I have not the I can fix yet.
[01:43:04]  I have the customer.
[01:43:04]  I have.
[01:43:05]  Yes.
[01:43:05]  I've done it.
[01:43:06]  I respect that.
[01:43:07]  Illegal.
[01:43:08]  That's well.
[01:43:09]  I have to say, just a liberal because I can change him too.
[01:43:13]  You can change the liberal.
[01:43:14]  I didn't know we had the option to change that.
[01:43:16]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:43:17]  It never works well.
[01:43:19]  You could change their immigration status.
[01:43:21]  Like, what?
[01:43:23]  If I can marry them and she's discriminating against them.
[01:43:26]  I mean, I'm a liberal, so a liberal.
[01:43:29]  Makes sense.
[01:43:29]  Makes sense.
[01:43:30]  Okay.
[01:43:32]  Let's switch the pace here a little bit.
[01:43:35]  Robert Tanner, just reminder, if you can, send me.
[01:43:37]  Okay.
[01:43:39]  Here.
[01:43:41]  Robert Tanner, I'm going to send you a message in Discord here in just a moment.
[01:43:45]  But thank you very much.
[01:43:46]  Guys, W's in chat for Robert Tanner, man.
[01:43:48]  This guy's a fucking legend.
[01:43:49]  It's a fucking legend.
[01:43:50]  That's two $2,000 donations.
[01:43:53]  Is that another round of champagne?
[01:43:55]  Yeah, what's going on?
[01:43:56]  You know, that's what I was going to message him on.
[01:44:00]  I checked the refrigerator.
[01:44:02]  We're all out of champagne.
[01:44:03]  So I'm going to ask him if I can do something else or I'll have to like get a I'll have to order some champagne.
[01:44:09]  DoorDash.
[01:44:10]  Robert Tanner, I'm going to message you on Discord.
[01:44:13]  Just stay tuned for that.
[01:44:14]  I'm going to see if you're down to swap it for some sort of other perk or something else.
[01:44:20]  Besides the champagne, perp, perp, pop.
[01:44:23]  Perk, perk.
[01:44:24]  Perp.
[01:44:25]  Type.
[01:44:27]  But if you insist on the champagne pop, I will order some more champagne.
[01:44:31]  Okay, so how about we do this?
[01:44:33]  Really quick, though, do you think we should deport the illegal immigrants?
[01:44:38]  Yeah.
[01:44:39]  Not the way that it's always currently done, like not the exact methodology, but I believe deportation is like a fine physically apprehending them.
[01:44:50]  Well, it depends on how they're being physically apprehended, but assuming that.
[01:44:53]  Like assuming it's the necessary amount of force to apprehend somebody.
[01:44:57]  Minimum necessary amount of force.
[01:44:59]  Most of the people left because they were incentivized.
[01:45:03]  Most of the deportation numbers that you're seeing, they were given an option.
[01:45:06]  Leave now, you get this amount of money, or leave now, and you can come back in X amount of years.
[01:45:10]  That's most of the deportations that are going on right now.
[01:45:12]  Self-deportation.
[01:45:13]  Self-deportation.
[01:45:14]  That is true.
[01:45:15]  Stop leaving any of those.
[01:45:16]  We are going to change topics here a little bit.
[01:45:20]  Riley, do you own a firearm?
[01:45:22]  Yes, I do.
[01:45:23]  Yes.
[01:45:24]  Okay.
[01:45:25]  All right.
[01:45:26]  The question is for the women, starting with you.
[01:45:31]  Would you date a man who owns a firearm who's pro-Second Amendment?
[01:45:38]  I live in California in this scenario.
[01:45:40]  I mean, I prefer that to you.
[01:45:41]  You're not going to own firearms in the future.
[01:45:42]  I prefer that to not be the case, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I found it out later on.
[01:45:46]  So you'd prefer he not have a firearm?
[01:45:48]  Yeah.
[01:45:49]  What about you?
[01:45:49]  Oh, yes, of course.
[01:45:50]  I'm pretty sure.
[01:45:51]  Fine with it.
[01:45:51]  Okay.
[01:45:52]  What about you?
[01:45:53]  I'm okay with it too.
[01:45:54]  My husband has guns.
[01:45:55]  He has guns?
[01:45:55]  Okay.
[01:45:55]  A little louder when you can, please.
[01:45:57]  Absolutely.
[01:45:58]  I plan on owning a gun.
[01:46:00]  Okay.
[01:46:01]  Hell yeah.
[01:46:02]  Hell yeah.
[01:46:04]  No.
[01:46:04]  Against it?
[01:46:05]  Okay.
[01:46:05]  I'd prefer he owns them.
[01:46:07]  Okay.
[01:46:07]  I'm Texas Brit.
[01:46:08]  I have one.
[01:46:09]  Okay.
[01:46:10]  Must-have, yes.
[01:46:11]  Must-have gun.
[01:46:12]  Deal breaker if they don't.
[01:46:14]  Okay, Angelica?
[01:46:15]  What about you?
[01:46:15]  Strapped like Rambo.
[01:46:17]  Against it.
[01:46:18]  Okay, so you said no.
[01:46:20]  You said prefer not to.
[01:46:21]  Why'd you say no?
[01:46:24]  I just feel like I don't want to have a gun in the house.
[01:46:27]  I've just seen a lot of things that happen to other people with guns in the house.
[01:46:30]  Can I have you scoot your mic that way?
[01:46:32]  Loosely?
[01:46:33]  Yeah, scoot it like a little too much, I think.
[01:46:37]  And like have it facing straight.
[01:46:39]  Look in the camera so it's like straight towards you.
[01:46:43]  Straighten it.
[01:46:45]  Yeah, so it's like 90-degree angle with the table, I guess.
[01:46:48]  Nope, still fucked it up.
[01:46:50]  Over correction.
[01:46:51]  Back the other way.
[01:46:52]  There we go.
[01:46:53]  Okay, go ahead.
[01:46:53]  Continue with your point.
[01:46:55]  Yeah, I've just seen a lot of things that happen to other people that have guns in the house, and I just don't feel like I want that to be an issue with me.
[01:47:01]  I don't live in a neighborhood that I feel like I would need one, and I don't go places that I feel like I need one.
[01:47:06]  I do have shot before, and I've been to shooting ranges, so I do enjoy that.
[01:47:10]  A little bit of paintballing here and there.
[01:47:12]  And the people that you know that had issues with guns in the house, were they white or black?
[01:47:16]  Both.
[01:47:17]  Okay.
[01:47:19]  And then kind of what's your position, I guess?
[01:47:21]  Similar reasoning to her, and like I just feel like the amount of guns in circulations has a lot to do with the amount of gun violence in the U.S., and I'm just not really for that.
[01:47:29]  Does it?
[01:47:30]  Not really.
[01:47:32]  Well, I mean, the U.S. has like a high amount of gun violence, and it has a high amount of guns in circulation.
[01:47:38]  Yeah, we also have 350 million people, and we're on the Mexican border.
[01:47:42]  I mean, we got more guns than people, though.
[01:47:44]  Do we?
[01:47:45]  Well, actually, if you look at the murder rates of white Americans compared to these European countries, it's actually the same.
[01:47:51]  If you just go off of white Americans.
[01:47:53]  I'm talking about that.
[01:47:55]  Yeah, no, no, no, but off of murder is total in general.
[01:47:57]  If you look at white Americans.
[01:48:00]  There's like other factors.
[01:48:01]  It's saying that more than just guns have killed people.
[01:48:03]  There's worse things.
[01:48:04]  That was the thing.
[01:48:05]  The whole case is a lot of people.
[01:48:05]  There's no worse roots.
[01:48:07]  There's a worse weapon than a gun thing with Arena's Rutzka.
[01:48:09]  She got stabbed in the third flight.
[01:48:11]  It's the worst deadliest word.
[01:48:14]  Like, there's violence that doesn't necessitate a gun.
[01:48:17]  At the end of the day, the reason that there's such high gun deaths is for the same reason that there's a lot of high violence rates in other countries.
[01:48:23]  The people who are coming from those countries are here and they're propagating that violence.
[01:48:27]  When it comes to any European or white nation, when they have guns, they use it responsibly.
[01:48:31]  In fact, the ADF itself, it doesn't even persecute minorities, quote-unquote.
[01:48:36]  It persecutes white people from being able to have a bump stop.
[01:48:38]  I know a lot of these school shooters seem to be Americans from the U.S. Min M had the song.
[01:48:43]  MNM had the song.
[01:48:44]  He said, people only care when it happens in a white high school.
[01:48:46]  At the end of the day, school shootings happen in black neighborhoods, black high schools, black everything so commonly every day.
[01:48:53]  Absolutely shooting against every black person.
[01:48:55]  I'll confirm that school is a lot of people.
[01:48:55]  But what is it?
[01:48:56]  It only happens, and it only matters when it's a white person because it's that shocking because it almost never shoots.
[01:49:01]  I'm not saying it only happens due to white people.
[01:49:03]  And not only that, the rates of white people shooting up schools went dramatically up after they started prescribing trans hormones.
[01:49:09]  Trans people are now dominating school shootings.
[01:49:12]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:49:12]  Is there something over there?
[01:49:13]  It's literally true.
[01:49:15]  Transgenders are violent.
[01:49:16]  Like, that's not a fact right there.
[01:49:17]  Why do you think they're shopping their own genitals off?
[01:49:19]  They're violent.
[01:49:19]  Very mentally ill, just like the case.
[01:49:21]  It doesn't make who's doing the shootings or not.
[01:49:24]  It might be regarded as the amount of guns in circulation.
[01:49:27]  So the question that was just proposed, it's like, who cares?
[01:49:29]  So then having a mental health test when you're getting the guns.
[01:49:31]  Okay, if you're so prided of being a victim of gun violence, wouldn't you want a gun?
[01:49:36]  I wouldn't want to be sitting here like a sitting duck while I'm saying that.
[01:49:39]  Yeah, I didn't want to lying and just clock a guy who's talking to me right now.
[01:49:44]  This is like a three-pig zigzag.
[01:49:46]  I'm willing to have a conversation.
[01:49:47]  She's going to be like, I didn't say that.
[01:49:49]  Either way.
[01:49:50]  Tell them.
[01:49:50]  I didn't say that.
[01:49:52]  What happened, sorry?
[01:49:53]  Either way, when there are crimes involving guns, they're usually not getting them legally.
[01:49:59]  Exactly.
[01:50:00]  It's not the owner of the gun that's following the law.
[01:50:02]  Most of them are.
[01:50:03]  The reason that all the laws that they're doing, the mental health nonsense, all of that jazz, it's only affecting legal gun owners that need them for their own protection.
[01:50:11]  It's not affecting the criminals.
[01:50:12]  I was just going to say the reason that it's so easy to get them illegally is because there's so many in circulation as well.
[01:50:16]  No, it's because they're coming from Mexico, once again.
[01:50:18]  And Mexico's getting them from, I think, well, I can't name the country.
[01:50:20]  Okay, but you're saying that we don't need to go to the game.
[01:50:22]  No, Mexico get them from here.
[01:50:23]  We do need them.
[01:50:25]  Everyone needs them from the city.
[01:50:26]  You want an airplane law.
[01:50:27]  That means there's so many guns.
[01:50:30]  I want a gun.
[01:50:30]  That's why.
[01:50:31]  Stop, stop.
[01:50:31]  Go ahead.
[01:50:32]  If we were to make guns illegal, would there be less illegal gun purchases?
[01:50:37]  That's a loaded question, and I don't know.
[01:50:39]  But I mean, like, if we were to ban guns in America, there would probably be less illegal guns, right?
[01:50:43]  I mean, yeah, but I don't necessarily think that's a good idea.
[01:50:45]  Yeah, wouldn't that also apply to abortion as well?
[01:50:47]  If we were to ban abortion, there would be less illegal abortions.
[01:50:50]  Wouldn't you think so?
[01:50:51]  Yeah.
[01:50:52]  Okay.
[01:50:52]  What's your point?
[01:50:53]  No, I'm just checking for later in the debate when we talk about it.
[01:50:55]  Consistency, logical consistency.
[01:50:57]  Just making sure.
[01:50:59]  If we banned abortions, there'd probably be more illegal abortions.
[01:51:01]  Okay, so what do you think about gun laws?
[01:51:03]  If we banned guns, there'd probably be more illegal gun purchases.
[01:51:06]  More illegal activity.
[01:51:07]  Same energy.
[01:51:09]  I never proposed banning guns.
[01:51:11]  I never proposed suddenly banning guns.
[01:51:12]  That was never my claim.
[01:51:13]  You're doing things that are a slippy slippery.
[01:51:15]  I just said I wouldn't want to date a guy who owned a gun because.
[01:51:18]  Owning a gun is a slippery slope to get away from it.
[01:51:20]  Yes, so you wouldn't want to date a guy.
[01:51:21]  You're making it more and more restrictive as to what you can access.
[01:51:24]  Back in the day, the whole point of the Second Amendment is to choose whether you want a gun or not.
[01:51:27]  It's not saying everyone must get a gun anyway.
[01:51:29]  So you're not for banning guns, but you don't want a gun yourself.
[01:51:31]  So you want everybody else to have access to a gun except yourself.
[01:51:34]  Seems a little bit odd.
[01:51:35]  I never said I want everyone else other than myself to have access to a gun.
[01:51:38]  I just said I don't personally have the ability to want it in my household.
[01:51:40]  I've primarily said for the same reasons as her.
[01:51:42]  I just don't feel like it's the safest thing.
[01:51:44]  If you personally don't want to, I said, same thing with abortion.
[01:51:46]  Why don't you personally not own a gun and let everyone else own whatever they want?
[01:51:50]  Well, I'm letting everyone else.
[01:51:51]  They can own whatever they want.
[01:51:52]  I just don't want one.
[01:51:53]  True.
[01:51:53]  Okay.
[01:51:53]  Also, I'm surrounding myself.
[01:51:55]  I'm surrounding myself within a community.
[01:51:57]  We weren't talking about the Second Amendment.
[01:51:58]  We were talking about do we have a gun?
[01:52:00]  Do we want a gun?
[01:52:00]  That's what we were talking about.
[01:52:01]  Or would you date someone?
[01:52:02]  And again, the Second Amendment doesn't say everyone should carry a gun.
[01:52:05]  It says you have the right if you want to.
[01:52:07]  So how exactly do you think your man's going to protect you if you don't want to?
[01:52:10]  Protect me from what?
[01:52:11]  I said, I want to live in California.
[01:52:12]  I want to live in areas of the world.
[01:52:13]  I'm just saying in real life.
[01:52:14]  There's not gun violence in California.
[01:52:15]  Are you kidding?
[01:52:17]  How is he going to defend you?
[01:52:18]  If you wanted to defend you, you were sitting with you in front or like a bunch of people.
[01:52:22]  What's the scenario?
[01:52:23]  Technically, you don't think my man is that man, and that's crazy.
[01:52:27]  That's funny.
[01:52:28]  Whatever I said to him is that it doesn't matter if the man is going to protect you.
[01:52:32]  Guns are the great equalizer, technically, for women, where it's like you don't have to necessitate physical violence.
[01:52:36]  You have an automatic.
[01:52:37]  That's true, though.
[01:52:39]  That's not really true.
[01:52:40]  Like, guns aren't actually the equalizer between the sexes.
[01:52:44]  What's your logic?
[01:52:45]  Well, because men, strong men with guns are always going to be able to overpower women with guns just because of physical force and because of their ability to handle a firearm better.
[01:52:59]  Correct.
[01:52:59]  But if you're at a distance, you have a better aim at being able to make it more equal.
[01:53:04]  No?
[01:53:04]  Like, it doesn't matter.
[01:53:05]  Like, it helps.
[01:53:06]  It helps.
[01:53:07]  I'm just saying that.
[01:53:07]  Men have better reactions.
[01:53:09]  They do have better reactions, but it's just a point second.
[01:53:12]  So it's like if that point second is really what matters, okay, the men is going to win.
[01:53:15]  But typically, it's not just a point second.
[01:53:17]  Typically, women can use guns when they're being assaulted.
[01:53:19]  They have it in their purse.
[01:53:20]  Yeah.
[01:53:20]  And they're able to put it out there and shoot an assailant who doesn't know that they're armed.
[01:53:24]  I mean, you need to, when you own a gun, you have to learn like gun safety.
[01:53:28]  Weapon safety.
[01:53:29]  Weapon safety.
[01:53:30]  You need to learn de-escalation tactics.
[01:53:32]  You don't just go straight for the shot.
[01:53:34]  Yes, you do.
[01:53:35]  Yes, you do.
[01:53:35]  That's the thing that with women.
[01:53:37]  Shot it kills.
[01:53:38]  You should shoot.
[01:53:39]  Men are going to be better at shooting.
[01:53:40]  That's what the Marines taught me.
[01:53:41]  Well, that's true.
[01:53:42]  But the thing is that when it comes to police officers, to your point, female officers, if they're like in a violent encounter, they are more likely to shoot you.
[01:53:50]  So it's like, I'm not risking my life.
[01:53:52]  If you've got a gun.
[01:53:53]  I'm pulling it out.
[01:53:54]  I'm exactly.
[01:53:57]  It's like, okay, more emotional.
[01:54:00]  What happened?
[01:54:01]  I said, what did Riley say earlier?
[01:54:02]  That women are more strong.
[01:54:03]  Well, yeah, men are better at dealing with stress.
[01:54:06]  Yeah, the men should definitely be more powerful.
[01:54:09]  Also, I wanted to ask you, so you said that you probably don't need a gun because you live in California and it's low crime, right?
[01:54:14]  Well, like the area of California that I would live in.
[01:54:16]  Okay, okay.
[01:54:16]  What if you lived in Compton?
[01:54:17]  So the bubble, I keep talking about it.
[01:54:18]  I wouldn't live in Compton people.
[01:54:19]  Why not?
[01:54:20]  What about the arguments?
[01:54:21]  You live in Compton.
[01:54:21]  Why are you using your privilege over them?
[01:54:23]  No, why wouldn't you live in Compton?
[01:54:24]  It's just not an area that appeals to me.
[01:54:26]  Why?
[01:54:26]  And this is why you talk with me.
[01:54:27]  Because there are other areas that appeal more to me.
[01:54:29]  No, but why does Compton not appeal to you?
[01:54:31]  I don't know much about it.
[01:54:31]  It's lower class.
[01:54:33]  Right.
[01:54:33]  So you don't know what you want.
[01:54:35]  Why does it not appeal to you if you don't know much about it?
[01:54:36]  What do you know about Compton?
[01:54:39]  Can you tell me the one thing you know about Compton?
[01:54:41]  I don't know much about Compton.
[01:54:42]  I'm just guessing it's not as like.
[01:54:44]  Why would you say that?
[01:54:46]  So why?
[01:54:46]  Because you're bringing it up.
[01:54:47]  We all know.
[01:54:48]  We all know what the answer is.
[01:54:49]  I don't know.
[01:54:50]  I'm not sure if it's psychically.
[01:54:52]  Black neighborhood.
[01:54:53]  I mean, like, the race of the neighborhood's not a big deal to me, but if it's like a bad idea, why wouldn't you live in Compton then?
[01:54:58]  Because there are areas that I would rather live.
[01:54:59]  Oh, like which areas?
[01:55:01]  Like the Bay Area?
[01:55:02]  Oh, white area?
[01:55:02]  You're really clear.
[01:55:03]  The predominantly white affluent area.
[01:55:05]  That's why you don't know anything about immigrants.
[01:55:07]  I wouldn't.
[01:55:07]  You don't live around them.
[01:55:08]  I wouldn't.
[01:55:09]  And why are you defending immigrants?
[01:55:10]  I don't want to live around them.
[01:55:11]  It's like you don't want them in your immigrant neighborhood, but you're wanting them to be aware of that.
[01:55:13]  And that's actually what antigun crimes are, okay?
[01:55:17]  I wouldn't live in the Bay because it's white.
[01:55:18]  I would live in it because it's like a very nice area.
[01:55:20]  Yeah, no, why is it nice?
[01:55:21]  Why is it nice?
[01:55:22]  No, it's because it's a white neighborhood.
[01:55:24]  I'll tell you that right now.
[01:55:25]  It's not.
[01:55:25]  Like, do you think they might just have some like affinity and love for white people?
[01:55:28]  So explain to me why it's white.
[01:55:29]  Well, obviously, you don't.
[01:55:30]  You're trying to betray that.
[01:55:31]  It's a nice neighborhood.
[01:55:32]  The question was, there's great schools.
[01:55:34]  There's great people.
[01:55:36]  It's not really nice.
[01:55:37]  You're being circular without anything.
[01:55:37]  But there's great opportunities.
[01:55:39]  Like, I grew up there.
[01:55:40]  Exactly.
[01:55:40]  Yes, it's a lot of people.
[01:55:42]  You're being circular.
[01:55:43]  Women do this a lot.
[01:55:44]  Why is it a nice area?
[01:55:45]  Get to the room.
[01:55:46]  Riley.
[01:55:47]  It's true.
[01:55:48]  I mean, I grew up there, so there's like a lot of places there that I like.
[01:55:50]  So you're affluent.
[01:55:51]  No, you're being so circular.
[01:55:53]  And that's why you don't know anything that we're talking about.
[01:55:55]  Because we don't live around it.
[01:55:57]  Literally.
[01:55:57]  She's talking about welfare for people that aren't even belonging to it.
[01:56:00]  Would I not want to live in an affluent area?
[01:56:02]  The working class.
[01:56:03]  Doesn't everyone want to live in an affluent area?
[01:56:04]  If they can tell.
[01:56:05]  But why?
[01:56:05]  Yeah, so that's not race-based.
[01:56:07]  That's economy.
[01:56:08]  But at least people who are not in the affluent circles have like reality.
[01:56:11]  They have point of view perspective as to the real world.
[01:56:13]  People who are like, are you just criticizing me for being affluent?
[01:56:15]  Because the entire world is affluent and that it works out.
[01:56:17]  I don't think.
[01:56:18]  You're just criticizing.
[01:56:19]  I'm not criticizing you because you don't know.
[01:56:20]  You are young.
[01:56:21]  But you look down on people who say things like, I don't think we should have illegal immigration because you live nowhere near them.
[01:56:27]  I said I wasn't for illegal immigration either.
[01:56:29]  I said I wasn't for illegal immigration.
[01:56:31]  She would deport them.
[01:56:32]  That's actually fine with deportation with the minimum physical force necessary.
[01:56:36]  I said illegal immigration is not a good thing.
[01:56:39]  I said it should be prevented in the first place, but you're pulling, you're putting words into my mouth twisting my worldviews that you're dominating me over and over again.
[01:56:46]  And when I take all of you, get welfare.
[01:56:48]  No, don't be emotional.
[01:56:49]  Then we agree.
[01:56:50]  Oh my God, your voice is annoying as hell.
[01:56:52]  Okay, that's great.
[01:56:52]  You're being racist against a half Puerto Rican.
[01:56:54]  Why are you bigoting?
[01:56:55]  Why are you so bigoted?
[01:56:56]  Why are you lady immigration?
[01:56:57]  How is that?
[01:56:58]  No, not Puerto Ricans, just you.
[01:56:59]  Oh, no, no, no, no.
[01:57:00]  That's fine.
[01:57:01]  Oh, I'm introverted compared to them.
[01:57:02]  So it's really just a cultural thing, right?
[01:57:04]  The question was literally, would she date somebody?
[01:57:07]  No, no, no, no.
[01:57:08]  This is an eight-hour podcast.
[01:57:09]  You have to talk about the subject.
[01:57:11]  We have plenty of time to do that.
[01:57:12]  Not put words into my mouth.
[01:57:13]  You're older.
[01:57:15]  I would prefer to date a man who owns guns.
[01:57:18]  I want to, but just because she said she would prefer not to doesn't, you're just totally putting words in her mouth.
[01:57:24]  We moved faster.
[01:57:25]  We were asking all the way around, basically.
[01:57:26]  And then there was the whole denial of like, no, I think you're putting words in her mouth.
[01:57:30]  I don't think so.
[01:57:31]  She can't keep track of what she says because she says it and then takes it back.
[01:57:33]  So I can't.
[01:57:34]  I can keep talking about what I say.
[01:57:35]  You can't because you guys keep twisting the things I say.
[01:57:37]  And you just said that.
[01:57:38]  Can you please give me an example of when we twisted something or when we ended up moving the goalpost when you said I was for illegal immigration?
[01:57:43]  You were declaring it better in the first part.
[01:57:45]  You were when I said that I was for deportation.
[01:57:47]  When I said that I was forced to do that.
[01:57:49]  She ended the argument.
[01:57:51]  I'm not for it.
[01:57:52]  And that's why we're having hard time.
[01:57:53]  I'm entirely agreed.
[01:57:54]  That's the whole point of a conversation is to get to the point.
[01:57:55]  She does kind of keep on changing what she says.
[01:57:57]  Right.
[01:57:57]  She does.
[01:57:58]  I don't agree with you.
[01:57:58]  She's really waiting for me.
[01:58:00]  If I'm going to be honest, I wasn't paying attention.
[01:58:03]  I said that I was.
[01:58:04]  Not because this is like circles.
[01:58:06]  I also like that.

=== Walking Home At Night (07:57) ===

[01:58:07]  She's probably not going to be afraid.
[01:58:07]  Because her voice is drowning it out.
[01:58:09]  God damn.
[01:58:09]  At the end of the day, all you have is my voice because you're not speaking up for your own point of view.
[01:58:13]  You have no articulation when it comes to your own point of view.
[01:58:14]  So my articulated early days.
[01:58:16]  I can always articulate what I say.
[01:58:17]  That was the last thing I said.
[01:58:19]  She's been condescending this entire time.
[01:58:21]  I know.
[01:58:21]  I actually disagree with that.
[01:58:22]  But I honestly agree with you.
[01:58:23]  She snickered at me for something I said.
[01:58:25]  We're on different ages, but I don't think she's been condescending.
[01:58:27]  Honestly, I'm not going to be able to do that.
[01:58:28]  I watched her facial expressions.
[01:58:29]  Honestly, I'm not going to lie.
[01:58:31]  Honestly, I think Hannah is just like the quintessential, sweet, feminine girl who, whenever someone gets dogpiled, she just has to defend them.
[01:58:38]  She's just like, I can't tolerate this.
[01:58:40]  At least you'll acknowledge the dog people.
[01:58:42]  I'm not afraid of being kind humor, Nick.
[01:58:43]  No, no, no.
[01:58:43]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:58:44]  I'm flattering you.
[01:58:44]  I'm saying that.
[01:58:46]  I don't support that.
[01:58:47]  But at the same time, logically speaking, this is not the case.
[01:58:49]  Everyone here is saying that she's not a bad person.
[01:58:51]  What's a bigger net benefit on the world?
[01:58:53]  You being nice to her or her making a great argument and changing tens of thousands of people's minds on this podcast.
[01:58:58]  What would be a better thing?
[01:58:59]  I'm not sure if you can make a great argument, but I think if you really want to make a great argument, you need to actually talk and have some type.
[01:59:05]  Like, you guys are just yelling, going out of business.
[01:59:10]  If you really want to learn how to communicate with somebody, you actually need to also be open to listening to hear her out of the way.
[01:59:15]  And you keep just speaking over her.
[01:59:17]  You keep asking her.
[01:59:18]  She's been listening to her opinions out.
[01:59:19]  Like, do you hear your tone even now?
[01:59:21]  Like, and I'm being so serious.
[01:59:22]  She called me hostile, by the way.
[01:59:23]  Like, you're before the podcast started.
[01:59:25]  As opposed to the story.
[01:59:26]  And now she's speaking softly to try to get away from it.
[01:59:29]  I'm going to make this very clear.
[01:59:30]  I'm going to make this very clear.
[01:59:31]  When it comes to feminine dialogue, which I appreciate, when it comes to feminine dialogue, which I think should be encouraged and promoted, Hannah is the best example of someone trying to facilitate a kind dialogue.
[01:59:43]  And you're the one.
[01:59:44]  When it comes to political subjects, which actually proves the point, when it comes to political subjects, you enter the masculine aggressive field because policy matters.
[01:59:51]  So when you're going to talk about policy, as you've been doing, you have to expect a masculine energy.
[01:59:56]  Do I have a masculine energy right now?
[01:59:58]  Of course.
[01:59:58]  It's not feminine.
[01:59:59]  But at the end of the day, if women have the right to vote, if women are politicized, this is what you should expect.
[02:00:03]  And if you can't handle it, I'm get out of the kitchen.
[02:00:06]  Okay, I'm not.
[02:00:07]  Or get on the kitchen.
[02:00:08]  You can't keep yelling at me.
[02:00:09]  Make a sandwich.
[02:00:10]  To be fair, you were asking her questions, and then as soon as she got half a sentence out, you would talk over her.
[02:00:15]  You have to also give space for people to give their full arguments.
[02:00:19]  Yeah, that's what I was telling myself.
[02:00:21]  And by the way, like three of them at once.
[02:00:24]  Can you list me an example of when I interrupted her?
[02:00:26]  Because I do recall giving her the whole thing.
[02:00:28]  It's my full thing.
[02:00:29]  Hold on, hold on.
[02:00:29]  I'm not going to give examples.
[02:00:30]  Stop, stop, stop.
[02:00:31]  Let's not get into a meta-conversation about who interrupted who when.
[02:00:35]  Just make the correction.
[02:00:36]  Joshua, to be anti-gun is to be anti-woman.
[02:00:39]  Thank you for the big super chat, Joshua.
[02:00:41]  Do you hate women?
[02:00:41]  Very much.
[02:00:42]  Appreciate it.
[02:00:43]  Well, I mean, like, some women can't defend themselves, you know?
[02:00:45]  Like, how would you defend yourself?
[02:00:47]  Are you asking me if I hate women?
[02:00:48]  Yeah, well, like, what if a woman's walking alone home at night and a man comes up to them and tries to rape them?
[02:00:53]  They don't have a firearm.
[02:00:54]  They cannot defend themselves against the man.
[02:00:56]  That's what that statement means.
[02:00:57]  What do they do in that situation?
[02:00:59]  What should the woman do?
[02:00:59]  Yeah, what should the woman do?
[02:01:00]  I mean, ideally not be walking out at night, but then call the police, like try and get away from this individual as far as possible.
[02:01:06]  Okay.
[02:01:06]  And you're not waiting for me.
[02:01:07]  Are you sludge shaming?
[02:01:07]  They shouldn't be walking around at night.
[02:01:09]  That's not sludge shaming.
[02:01:11]  I would put the blame in this scenario on the man who's trying to.
[02:01:15]  Well, no, of course, yeah, the man is fully at fault, but it still is a reality that if a woman's walking alone home at night at like midnight, how about sludge shaming her?
[02:01:22]  Like, I'm saying it's not safe to do that because there exists a dangerous thing.
[02:01:26]  Well, it might not be safe.
[02:01:29]  What if they didn't come from a rich family like you did, and they are working like an eight-hour shift at her Mexican restaurant, right?
[02:01:34]  Not meant for them vegan.
[02:01:36]  Really?
[02:01:37]  Really?
[02:01:37]  10 vegan.
[02:01:38]  Okay.
[02:01:38]  So what if there's some like nine out of ten like Latina working at a restaurant, very pretty, very prone to rape, walking home at night because she can't afford a car to like you have a car, right?
[02:01:46]  She's your public transport from a rich family.
[02:01:48]  Even not all places have public transport.
[02:01:51]  Yes, exactly.
[02:01:51]  So how would a woman defend herself if she's on public transport where there's all these like brown and black people?
[02:01:56]  Well, it's probably safer to go to public transport than not now because most people on public transport are poor, which means they have a higher chance of committing crime.
[02:02:02]  So you think a woman on like a bus going home is more likely to get stabbed or like.
[02:02:09]  Oh, no, no, no, no, walking home at night probably.
[02:02:11]  I'd say, you wouldn't know because you're not taking it.
[02:02:13]  But yes, they get violated there the most.
[02:02:16]  There's no control.
[02:02:16]  The Ukrainian girl got killed right now.
[02:02:18]  Literally, there's no one patrolling it anymore because they just gave up.
[02:02:21]  I use public transport every day, by the way.
[02:02:22]  Because I know you said I never take it.
[02:02:25]  In which city?
[02:02:25]  Which city?
[02:02:26]  Well, here, but I'm still saying I take public transportation.
[02:02:28]  Really?
[02:02:28]  Okay.
[02:02:29]  I thought you just said here.
[02:02:30]  I just have to be spatially aware.
[02:02:32]  I thought you said your area was safe.
[02:02:33]  If you're spatially aware, I take you a lot more than likely.
[02:02:36]  Why wouldn't you walk at night if you're a bad person?
[02:02:37]  I take the bus here because it's faster to get to school.
[02:02:41]  About the 22-year-old, 9 out of 10 Latina, working at a restaurant, maybe her vegan restaurant, walking home at night, has to walk a mile after their eight-hour shift from four to midnight.
[02:02:50]  They're walking home at night.
[02:02:51]  How do they defend themselves?
[02:02:52]  Or they take public transport.
[02:02:53]  There's all these illegal immigrants on there.
[02:02:55]  I mean, obviously, that's not an ideal scenario, but I could hope she carry pepper spray, call the police.
[02:03:00]  Pepper spray?
[02:03:03]  Are people saying it's really rare to get involved in the future?
[02:03:06]  Even if she wants to own a gun having a game, wait, wait, what'd you say?
[02:03:09]  If she wants to go to home, she wants to own a gun, she can do that.
[02:03:12]  No, no, no, I joined the Marines.
[02:03:14]  My time.
[02:03:14]  I'm from Flint, Michigan.
[02:03:15]  She changed her mind.
[02:03:16]  That's wonderful.
[02:03:17]  I'm not against the Second Amendment.
[02:03:19]  Just so you admit that your personal experience of where you lived is what makes you feel like you're not going to be able to do that.
[02:03:23]  I never even thought I'd get a second amendment.
[02:03:25]  Well, not only that, globally speaking, the world is very violent towards women.
[02:03:28]  The Western nations are the only place where women have any similitude or illusion of safety, but we're losing that quickly because we're importing the entire world here, but they don't have feminist values.
[02:03:37]  They look at women and they're like, oh, they're weak.
[02:03:39]  We're going to go attack them and take what is ours.
[02:03:41]  So it's like, yes, globally speaking, the safety pockets for women are limited.
[02:03:47]  And having a gun equalizes it more.
[02:03:49]  It gives us a chance.
[02:03:51]  Even if it's not perfect, it gives us a chance.
[02:03:52]  I never said a woman couldn't own a gun.
[02:03:54]  We're not talking about that.
[02:03:55]  You're saying how, oh, well, what about the second?
[02:03:56]  What are you asking me whatever?
[02:03:57]  What are you asking me then?
[02:03:58]  Oh, no, there was like a piggyback of conversation.
[02:04:00]  You're not the second person.
[02:04:01]  This entire podcast, you have been so wishy-washy.
[02:04:03]  Can you please state your values on gun control, on immigration?
[02:04:06]  You've been so wishy-washy.
[02:04:07]  I'm not against the Second Amendment.
[02:04:08]  If you want to own a gun in the U.S., go ahead and do that.
[02:04:11]  I do, however, I don't have an exact solution.
[02:04:13]  Hope something can be done about the amount of gun violence and like school shootings in America.
[02:04:17]  That's my proposed regulation for gun owners.
[02:04:20]  But why don't you talk about that?
[02:04:21]  If it could help, then yeah.
[02:04:23]  But why is there...
[02:04:24]  If it would lower, if I knew.
[02:04:25]  You guys got to only ask her one question at a time.
[02:04:27]  You can't bombard her with three questions in a row, one question at a time.
[02:04:31]  If you told me right now that implementing gun regulation would lower the collective rate of gun violence in the U.S., then I would say yes, I'm for that.
[02:04:38]  So if you lower the gun violence in the United States, you would be for that policy.
[02:04:42]  And if that result was completely clear, because people say, oh, this regulation still might lead to this amount of gun violence and it might not work.
[02:04:49]  I'm not for that.
[02:04:50]  But if I know that you would be maximizing the amount of safety in this country and there would be less gun violence, I would be for that.
[02:04:55]  So you would deport black people back to Africa.
[02:04:57]  Let me get this straight.
[02:04:58]  That's very racist of you.
[02:05:00]  We're talking about gun regulation.
[02:05:01]  60% of the grandfather.
[02:05:01]  No, but you're talking about gun violence, actually.
[02:05:04]  Gun violence, murder rates are committed by 60% of African Americans.
[02:05:07]  You remove them from the equation, you get equal safety levels as European people.
[02:05:10]  You want to be more specific on that.
[02:05:12]  It's actually like 55% of gun violence for white people.
[02:05:14]  So there's many reasons that that's the case that go back to white people.
[02:05:17]  Like in history, like thousands of years.
[02:05:19]  15% more in the United States than black people.
[02:05:22]  You don't understand.
[02:05:23]  We're talking about per capita.
[02:05:24]  You're arguing against your case in this country.
[02:05:26]  I'm not arguing against you.
[02:05:27]  57% of the country is white.
[02:05:29]  15% of the gun violence rate is white.
[02:05:32]  60% of gun violence is committed by black people.
[02:05:34]  13% of the country is black.
[02:05:36]  You're arguing against your own people.
[02:05:37]  Why do you think that is, though?
[02:05:38]  Why do you think black people commit more crimes?
[02:05:41]  You should say not going to go to the bank.
[02:05:42]  You should say your opinions.
[02:05:44]  For the same reason, Africa is also equally as violent.
[02:05:48]  Yeah, wait, black people weren't enslaved in Africa to the rate that they were in America.
[02:05:51]  Why does Africa have higher crime rates than blacks in America?
[02:05:54]  Because of colonialism.
[02:05:55]  Colonialism?
[02:05:56]  Wait, wait, what about Ethiopia, who defeated Italy?
[02:05:58]  Why do people migrate?
[02:05:59]  They were never colonized.
[02:06:00]  They're probably still subject to effects of colonialism.
[02:06:03]  I don't know the history of Ethiopia.

=== Defining A Woman (11:06) ===

[02:06:04]  I can't talk about that.
[02:06:05]  I've just moved things on a little bit here, but Shona, is anybody here in favor of reparations?
[02:06:12]  Hell no.
[02:06:13]  Reparations to African Americans?
[02:06:16]  I don't think reparations is a correct solution.
[02:06:17]  No.
[02:06:18]  No, okay.
[02:06:19]  Because we do have two African Americans here.
[02:06:23]  If anybody wants to give them cash, I think money should be the cash.
[02:06:28]  If anybody wants to give them cash, I mean, rather than cash handles, I think.
[02:06:32]  Do you want to give money?
[02:06:34]  If you put money into like look, see, she's ready.
[02:06:36]  She's ready for it.
[02:06:37]  You're all going to dollar in my job.
[02:06:39]  We're putting money into low-income clades.
[02:06:41]  We're not going to be as well.
[02:06:42]  Let's do this here while we do.
[02:06:45]  You know what?
[02:06:46]  Some of these topics have gone a bit political, but we can bring in a little dating.
[02:06:51]  It's still probably going to get political on this part.
[02:06:53]  I'm not sure dating.
[02:06:54]  Yeah, I thought we were talking about dating.
[02:06:55]  I didn't even know my story made a headline here, so here we go.
[02:07:00]  Who deported the dating, right?
[02:07:07]  Well, let me ask Riley a question.
[02:07:09]  Riley, would you date a trans woman?
[02:07:12]  No, woman.
[02:07:13]  No, no.
[02:07:16]  Question: Do you think it's straight for a man to date a trans woman?
[02:07:25]  I mean, technically, yeah.
[02:07:26]  Technically, yes, before we respond though.
[02:07:28]  But I understand why it's not everyone's preference.
[02:07:30]  It's okay, fair.
[02:07:31]  Let's.
[02:07:32]  What was the question?
[02:07:33]  I just asked it.
[02:07:35]  Is it straight, heterosexual for a man, say Riley here, that he would, to date a transgender woman?
[02:07:46]  No, that's gay.
[02:07:47]  That's gay, okay.
[02:07:49]  If they're fully transitioned, then no, but yes.
[02:07:51]  So you're saying if they're post-op, they have the neo neo-vagina, then that would be heterosexual.
[02:08:00]  Is that what you're saying?
[02:08:01]  Straight.
[02:08:02]  It would be straight.
[02:08:03]  It's a literal inverted penis.
[02:08:05]  But before we dive in, your thoughts?
[02:08:08]  No, it's not straight.
[02:08:09]  It is.
[02:08:10]  It would be gay.
[02:08:11]  It is your position.
[02:08:12]  Yeah.
[02:08:13]  Okay.
[02:08:13]  What do you think?
[02:08:14]  Gay.
[02:08:14]  Gay.
[02:08:15]  Okay.
[02:08:15]  Thoughts?
[02:08:16]  I think that if you're dating a trans person, I feel like, and you know that they're a trans person, it puts you on some type of spectrum.
[02:08:23]  Okay, so maybe bisexual.
[02:08:25]  Yeah.
[02:08:25]  You might say.
[02:08:26]  But would they be strictly straight?
[02:08:28]  I don't think they'd be strictly straight.
[02:08:30]  Okay.
[02:08:30]  Your thoughts?
[02:08:31]  Freaking lutely not.
[02:08:32]  Okay.
[02:08:33]  What do you think?
[02:08:33]  Gay.
[02:08:35]  Gay.
[02:08:36]  Homosexual.
[02:08:37]  Gay.
[02:08:37]  I have a question for you.
[02:08:38]  I wouldn't date a man who dated a trans.
[02:08:41]  Hold on.
[02:08:42]  Okay.
[02:08:42]  You would view a trans man as a woman, right?
[02:08:46]  A trans man as a woman.
[02:08:47]  That's misogyny.
[02:08:48]  Yes.
[02:08:49]  Right?
[02:08:49]  Okay, so then as a straight man, would it not then be like straight for you to kiss that trans man?
[02:08:56]  It would be straight of me to do that.
[02:08:57]  Okay.
[02:08:57]  I was just curious about that.
[02:08:58]  Yeah, also another thing.
[02:08:59]  What was your definition?
[02:09:00]  That's consistent under your worldview.
[02:09:01]  And so, what was your answer to his question?
[02:09:04]  Again, I just want you to restate it.
[02:09:07]  You said that it would be straight up.
[02:09:08]  You said that it would be straight, right?
[02:09:09]  Could I ask you what is being straight?
[02:09:12]  Being attracted to the opposite gender, being normal.
[02:09:14]  Okay, or what about the opposite sex?
[02:09:16]  I said gender.
[02:09:17]  Okay, you said gender.
[02:09:18]  Okay.
[02:09:18]  Okay, what is gender?
[02:09:20]  Gender is like, well, I think I would have to come up with a definition more detailed.
[02:09:24]  You'd have to come up with a lot of shit to excuse me.
[02:09:25]  Can you say I think you automatically lose the argument?
[02:09:29]  Not really.
[02:09:29]  Yeah.
[02:09:30]  Okay, what is it?
[02:09:30]  Do you not think about your opinions before you make it?
[02:09:32]  Let's make it real simple here.
[02:09:34]  Can you tell me what is a woman?
[02:09:37]  I'd say it's like a vice versa.
[02:09:39]  It's like a social, it's a social identity mapped onto a biological reality.
[02:09:44]  That is so useful that same definition.
[02:09:46]  Can't I use that same definition for a man?
[02:09:50]  Not really, because the social identity that I mentioned has no social identity that you mentioned because you never mentioned that.
[02:09:57]  That encompasses what is considered feminine down to not just feminine, but like a colour.
[02:10:01]  So is she feminine?
[02:10:02]  She has short hair?
[02:10:04]  No, but there's probably like characteristics of being a woman that she could identify with.
[02:10:09]  Just because you identify with characteristics.
[02:10:12]  She's short here.
[02:10:12]  She's masculine now.
[02:10:13]  Yeah.
[02:10:14]  She's low IQ.
[02:10:15]  I just had this conversation with my nephew.
[02:10:17]  He's six.
[02:10:19]  And I had to explain to him that men can have long hair and women can have short hair.
[02:10:23]  It doesn't make you the opposite.
[02:10:25]  Doesn't make you fix.
[02:10:26]  Yeah, and it's that yeah, there was more feminine.
[02:10:32]  For example, like, okay, I'm a cisgender woman, but if I was secretive, there's no cisgender.
[02:10:36]  There's no cisgender.
[02:10:37]  Please not ask.
[02:10:38]  Don't demean us.
[02:10:39]  That's massage.
[02:10:40]  Yeah, so like I asked, what is a woman?
[02:10:41]  You said somebody who essentially has feminine characteristics.
[02:10:43]  Well, you're asking me about those characteristics.
[02:10:45]  Yeah, what are they?
[02:10:46]  Tell me something.
[02:10:47]  You know how hard it is.
[02:10:47]  What I was trying to, what I was trying to.
[02:10:49]  I was like, jumping again.
[02:10:50]  Well, no, you just said that there's no characteristics.
[02:10:51]  And she's saying that to be a woman, you have to be afraid of the family.
[02:10:53]  I was about to elaborate one thing.
[02:10:55]  Wait, let's hear it.
[02:10:56]  What are feminine characteristics?
[02:10:58]  I was.
[02:10:58]  Okay.
[02:10:59]  Can I clarify?
[02:10:59]  When I say like characteristics, it's about like your place in society, how you're perceived, the treatment you receive.
[02:11:05]  So, for example, regardless of my biology, like I am society.
[02:11:09]  I act as and I am treated as a woman.
[02:11:11]  And there's a wide scope that goes like within that.
[02:11:15]  But like, I am treated as a woman.
[02:11:17]  I am perceived as a woman.
[02:11:18]  I'm in society.
[02:11:19]  And I move through society as a woman.
[02:11:21]  Because you're a woman.
[02:11:22]  You haven't named a single feminine characteristic.
[02:11:24]  You're just like, oh, the way you get treated by society and the way you're thought of.
[02:11:26]  Like, what is a feminine characteristic?
[02:11:28]  Well, there's like aesthetic implications with no, no, name it.
[02:11:31]  Describe it.
[02:11:32]  Well, it's not so black and white.
[02:11:34]  Like, there's not key, like, okay, you said like aesthetic.
[02:11:37]  Let her finish her answer.
[02:11:38]  I mean, I wouldn't say there was like a certain fixed like characteristic that every woman has aside from sex, but like, as I said, like, like, identifying with like I like being treated as a woman's society, like dating-wise, or like with like the way you want to present yourself, there's like if someone wants to identify with those social characteristics, then I believe that you have yet to name a single feminine characteristic or trait, not a single one.
[02:12:05]  In fact, the example was, oh, you're masculine because you have short hair when he never said that.
[02:12:09]  In fact, there were words being put into his mouth for that.
[02:12:11]  So for all of the argument of words being put in, it's actually generalizing too.
[02:12:14]  Like, there are super flamboyant gay men who do not identify as women.
[02:12:17]  That does not make them women.
[02:12:18]  They're just flamboyant.
[02:12:19]  And they're treated as women because they're both.
[02:12:21]  A man is a woman is very misogynistic.
[02:12:23]  If we go back to Brahm versus Board of Education, what's something about being a man that they can probably still identify with?
[02:12:29]  Okay, just because you identify with something doesn't make you that.
[02:12:32]  I can identify as a duck.
[02:12:33]  Am I a duck?
[02:12:34]  Well, when it comes to gender, which I think is something that was why is it just gender?
[02:12:37]  Can I say, hey, I'm black.
[02:12:39]  I'm a black woman.
[02:12:40]  Can I?
[02:12:40]  If you're going to ask her a question, you do.
[02:12:41]  How do you act your mind?
[02:12:43]  Okay, all right.
[02:12:43]  If you're going to ask her a question, you got to let her actually answer the question.
[02:12:46]  Okay.
[02:12:46]  I just think when it comes to gender, like I'm not going to sit here and try and invalidate what someone chooses to identify with.
[02:12:53]  Okay, so you have no definition for woman at all.
[02:12:57]  I already gave it initially off the bat, but we should go.
[02:12:59]  We should go on.
[02:12:59]  I started off with the definition, but what is a woman?
[02:13:02]  I said it's like a social, it's a social construct mapped onto a biological reality.
[02:13:08]  Hey, knock it off, please.
[02:13:10]  Repeat yourself.
[02:13:11]  A social construct mapped onto a biological reality.
[02:13:14]  A female adult with a vagina that can give birth.
[02:13:18]  Okay.
[02:13:19]  Oh, yeah, uterus.
[02:13:21]  They have to have a uterus.
[02:13:22]  Wait, what if a woman's infertile?
[02:13:24]  Why are you making that woman a man by saying that she's infertile?
[02:13:26]  That's sexist against women.
[02:13:27]  Because she has a medical problem.
[02:13:29]  I mean, she can be inferred, but yeah.
[02:13:31]  I mean, a woman is someone that has a vagina that has a clitoris that, you know, that basically was born with that genitalia.
[02:13:39]  What if a woman went through a short attack and she didn't have like any female?
[02:13:42]  Well, that makes her not a woman because she's not a person.
[02:13:45]  A hypothetical is a good way to test your definition.
[02:13:48]  How many fingers does a human have?
[02:13:49]  Ten.
[02:13:49]  Ten.
[02:13:50]  Okay, if somebody lost one of their fingers, are they not a human anymore?
[02:13:53]  No, they're still a human.
[02:13:53]  They're still a human.
[02:13:54]  Okay, so why would she not be a female anymore just because she went through an accident?
[02:13:57]  Well, I'm saying she would.
[02:13:58]  I'm just checking with her because she said that a vagina was a requirement.
[02:14:01]  It is.
[02:14:02]  It is.
[02:14:02]  Actually, congratulations.
[02:14:04]  I'm saying she came to the correct answer in the same way that you said it.
[02:14:07]  She's not made me a man.
[02:14:08]  Humans have 10 fingers.
[02:14:09]  Well, I don't think that would be a man.
[02:14:10]  I'm just saying, like, if suddenly the vagina, let's get the answers from the rest of the panelists.
[02:14:16]  You said it has a uterus, okay?
[02:14:20]  Generally, a female adult.
[02:14:23]  Female adult?
[02:14:24]  Adult, human, female with XX chromosomes.
[02:14:26]  Okay.
[02:14:27]  Someone with a vagina.
[02:14:28]  Someone with a vagina.
[02:14:30]  Just for clarification.
[02:14:32]  Someone born with one excuse.
[02:14:33]  Born with a vagina, okay?
[02:14:35]  Same.
[02:14:36]  Okay.
[02:14:37]  Yeah, I was going to say XX chromosomes.
[02:14:38]  All right.
[02:14:39]  Same.
[02:14:40]  Well, you have the standard XX chromosomes and a vagina, but to be very legalistic about it, I would say ovaries is the major requirement you would need.
[02:14:48]  Oh, but what if she's born without ovaries?
[02:14:50]  No, I'm just kidding.
[02:14:51]  That's dumb.
[02:14:52]  But that's categorical points.
[02:14:55]  What if she's intersex?
[02:14:57]  You are never born with functioning ovaries and functioning testicles.
[02:15:01]  It has never happened in human history ever.
[02:15:03]  You have one reproductive pathway if you even if you have like XXY chromosomes or you have XX chromosomes, but like a crap ten of testosterone or something, you still will have either functioning ovaries or functioning testicles.
[02:15:14]  There has never been a human who produces wealth.
[02:15:16]  Really quick, we have a soup chat from Rowe from our Australian friend.
[02:15:20]  I define her as a Kent.
[02:15:22]  Kent?
[02:15:23]  Oh, because he's Australian.
[02:15:25]  Is that to her character traits?
[02:15:29]  I don't get it.
[02:15:29]  Who is her?
[02:15:30]  I kind of get it.
[02:15:31]  I think he's...
[02:15:32]  Or wait, hold on.
[02:15:34]  Too late.
[02:15:35]  Elaborate.
[02:15:36]  Thank you for your soup chat, man.
[02:15:37]  Very much appreciate it.
[02:15:39]  Well, Shona, I have a clarifying question here, and I don't know if this is going to be helpful, but so you said that.
[02:15:45]  I will say regarding my definition of a woman, I would want more time to kind of solidify my worldview on it.
[02:15:50]  But as it stands, I don't like invalidate the identity of someone who wants to identify as a gender that they're not born as.
[02:15:57]  Are you a woman?
[02:15:58]  Yes.
[02:15:59]  How do you know?
[02:16:00]  Because it's a part of my identity, like socially, and then also biologically, which I acknowledged in my definition earlier.
[02:16:06]  What do you mean by biologically?
[02:16:08]  Like my sex, like my body.
[02:16:11]  Like.
[02:16:13]  Like, I was born a woman.
[02:16:15]  Like, it's my assigned sex at birth.
[02:16:18]  No, but like what part of your body though?
[02:16:20]  Like, what exactly makes you a woman?
[02:16:23]  My chromosomes.
[02:16:24]  Well, I'm speaking to the biological aspect that you're asking about.
[02:16:28]  And?
[02:16:28]  Well, I just don't want to start using words relating to genitalia.
[02:16:32]  Okay, yeah, yeah.
[02:16:33]  Sure.
[02:16:33]  But which chromosomes?
[02:16:34]  XX or XY?
[02:16:35]  XX.
[02:16:36]  Thank you.
[02:16:37]  But that's just speaking to the biological aspect.
[02:16:39]  Like I still like socially and in terms of...
[02:16:41]  So if you can't define a social definition, maybe we should just stick with the physical definition of it.
[02:16:47]  I mean, aesthetically, I like working.
[02:16:49]  Okay, I'm not saying this is a requirement for every woman out there, but like I like growing up, I was perceived as a woman and like that felt like a part of my identity that felt correct to me.
[02:16:59]  I exist and I move through society as a woman.
[02:17:01]  That feels correct to me.
[02:17:02]  Like aesthetically, and also just interest-wise, I really like feminine things.
[02:17:07]  That's just to speak to like my social reality as a woman.

=== Invalidating Immigrant Identity (02:42) ===

[02:17:11]  You invalidated the identity of undocumented immigrants who identify as Americans.
[02:17:14]  You're talking about immigrants, yet you're trying to not invalidate the identity of men who are not.
[02:17:19]  What did I invalidate regarding women then?
[02:17:22]  What did I say regarding immigrants that you're saying?
[02:17:24]  You want to invalidate the identity of illegal immigrants who come here by saying they're not Americans, even though they identify as such.
[02:17:29]  But you don't want to invalidate the identity of men who have perversions who commit statistically way more violence against women because that hurts you.
[02:17:36]  Well, if someone's illegally here and they've spent their whole life here, I don't think that like I'm not.
[02:17:40]  I know I understand like the on the need for deportation there, but I mean culturally they still could be American, so I didn't even completely invalidate that much.
[02:17:48]  Yeah, hold on.
[02:17:48]  Let me do a couple things, but we'll come back to this topic here in just a moment.
[02:17:52]  I don't think whether or not you're American purely depends on your status.
[02:17:55]  Hold on.
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=== Heterosexual Acts Defined (14:08) ===

[02:19:53]  I guess quick question, Shona, on the trans topic.
[02:19:57]  So you think it is straight for a man to date a trans woman?
[02:20:02]  That would be heterosexual.
[02:20:04]  I said yes, but I understand why that attraction may not exist all the time.
[02:20:08]  Because you can't help attraction.
[02:20:10]  Even if I respect someone's identity, for example, I cannot help if I'm not attracted to it.
[02:20:15]  Well, yeah, but I mean, you would see this even in opposite sex instances.
[02:20:20]  For example, not all males find all females attractive, even if they're genuinely female or genuinely a woman.
[02:20:29]  Like not you, you don't find all men attractive, do you?
[02:20:33]  Yeah.
[02:20:33]  Right.
[02:20:34]  So I'm not really interested in the preference component.
[02:20:37]  I'm just clarifying that.
[02:20:38]  Right.
[02:20:38]  Yeah, yeah, of course.
[02:20:40]  But you do think it would be straight, like as a descriptor, as a for your in terms of what you believe is to be true, you would say that a man dating a trans woman, that is definitionally heterosexual.
[02:20:57]  Period.
[02:20:59]  Yeah, although I will say there's like a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to like, let's say someone who's transitioned, but they've not made like, that's only like something that they've declared and they've not made any like physical transitions yet.
[02:21:10]  So let's say they let's say you picture like a man and then like you have a you have someone who was a man who just decided they wanted to identify as a woman.
[02:21:18]  Suddenly aesthetically you have like what maybe someone would think is two men standing next to each other.
[02:21:23]  Like obviously I'm trying to.
[02:21:25]  Well let's say let's say they're passing outwardly but they haven't had any sort of genitalia surgery.
[02:21:33]  I would say that's straight.
[02:21:34]  That would be straight.
[02:21:35]  So just to be clear, let me paint a picture and you tell me if this sounds like a heterosexual act.
[02:21:41]  Let's say you're outside an apartment and a man walks by and this is going to seem super autistic, but he says, I am a cis.
[02:21:51]  I hate this fucking term, but I'm a cis man and I'm straight.
[02:21:54]  And he walks into the apartment.
[02:21:56]  And then you see a trans woman go in and they disclose to you that they're trans.
[02:22:03]  By the way, I don't know why they would ever do this, but for the sake of the hypothetical.
[02:22:06]  They tell you they're trans, huh?
[02:22:08]  Am I physically present here?
[02:22:09]  You said they're discontinued.
[02:22:10]  You're like, I don't know.
[02:22:11]  It's at your dorm and you see them going into the dorm room or some shit.
[02:22:15]  A trans woman going to the dorm room.
[02:22:16]  Yeah, not your dorm room.
[02:22:19]  Another dorm room.
[02:22:20]  Okay, okay, okay.
[02:22:21]  And maybe it's like across the way so you can see into the window.
[02:22:24]  And you see that the cis man, the man, is performing oral sex on the trans woman's penis.
[02:22:33]  Would you describe this as a straight heterosexual act?
[02:22:37]  The sexual act or like their sexual orientation?
[02:22:41]  Hold on.
[02:22:43]  I would still call it.
[02:22:44]  If a man is, okay, if a man, a true man and a true woman are having sex, you would agree that that's a heterosexual act.
[02:22:51]  Right.
[02:22:52]  I define the act by the people having it, not exactly like what they're doing.
[02:22:57]  Okay, so hold on.
[02:22:58]  So, but my question still stands.
[02:23:01]  You see a man.
[02:23:02]  So, okay, there's a trans woman who's a fairly good person.
[02:23:05]  It wouldn't look like the straightest thing to me, but I would still call it straight so long as I respect.
[02:23:09]  Hold on, let me finish.
[02:23:10]  All right.
[02:23:10]  All right.
[02:23:11]  So you have the trans woman, right?
[02:23:14]  So wig, makeup, fake titties, in a dress.
[02:23:19]  Cast playing a woman.
[02:23:21]  But does, in fact, have a massive schlong.
[02:23:24]  Okay.
[02:23:24]  Gigantic fucking peen, right?
[02:23:26]  All right, all right.
[02:23:26]  Huge peen.
[02:23:27]  Jaij, one of the biggest.
[02:23:29]  Congrats, I guess.
[02:23:31]  This is why you need the I Love Big Dick swag.
[02:23:32]  Anyway, we were saying micro.
[02:23:36]  So you then see the man performing oral sex fellatio on the trans woman, the trans woman's penis.
[02:23:49]  Would you categorize this as a heterosexual act?
[02:23:53]  Technically, yeah.
[02:23:54]  Would it look that straight?
[02:23:55]  Technically, so technically, it would be heterosexual.
[02:24:00]  It would be straight to see a man sucking a penis.
[02:24:04]  That's straight to you.
[02:24:05]  Okay, what I'm saying is.
[02:24:06]  So wait, and it's also, really quick, really quick.
[02:24:09]  Also, the trans woman is in possession of a penis.
[02:24:16]  Do I have that correctly?
[02:24:17]  The woman has a penis.
[02:24:20]  Okay.
[02:24:21]  That's a question posed.
[02:24:22]  Yes, go ahead.
[02:24:23]  I would say yes, although I'll say this image would seem just as absurd to me as like everyone else on this table.
[02:24:28]  Like this is not something that I would like be able to picture very well or it would kind of catch like I would.
[02:24:32]  Wait, wait, how could you, but I don't understand.
[02:24:33]  So you do acknowledge that there are plenty.
[02:24:35]  I don't know what the breakdown is.
[02:24:37]  Like my understanding is most trans people have intact penises.
[02:24:41]  Like if you're a trans woman.
[02:24:42]  What I'm trying to say is just because something doesn't like initially seem that straight to me, so long as I choose to respect these people's identity, I'm still going to consider.
[02:24:49]  You can respect their identity, but I'm asking you, if you were to witness such an act, would you ever categorize it as a heterosexual sexual act?
[02:24:57]  In the case that that woman, that trans woman identifies as a woman, then yeah.
[02:25:01]  So you okay, just to be clear, it's hetero, it's heterosexual for a man to suck a penis.
[02:25:09]  I mean, suck a dick.
[02:25:10]  There's no women penises.
[02:25:11]  It's just vagina.
[02:25:12]  But again, like you're, you're, you're using like a slightly far-stretched hypothetical.
[02:25:16]  I don't, it's not far-stretched.
[02:25:19]  I'll call it straight.
[02:25:20]  If it's that crazy to you, I'll call it straight.
[02:25:22]  But really quick, so I guess my final thought on this.
[02:25:24]  So straight is short hurt, excuse me, short form slang for what?
[02:25:28]  Heterosexual?
[02:25:29]  I would say straight defines the gender that you are attracted to.
[02:25:31]  But what does heterosexual relate to?
[02:25:34]  Isn't that a sexuality?
[02:25:35]  Well, so straight, straight is short form slang for heterosexual.
[02:25:39]  When we're talking about sexuality, it's baked into the term itself.
[02:25:42]  We're talking about set, like your attraction to the opposite sex, not the opposite gender.
[02:25:48]  Hold on.
[02:25:49]  I would still understand that that man is perceiving the trans woman as a woman.
[02:25:53]  Just because you're perceiving something some way doesn't mean it's true.
[02:25:57]  Well, that's your nature.
[02:25:58]  That plays into your sexuality.
[02:25:59]  But when we're talking about sexuality, it's opposite sex.
[02:26:03]  Like if we're talking about heterosexual, that stands for opposite sex attraction.
[02:26:07]  It doesn't mean opposite gender.
[02:26:10]  And what I would say is just because something doesn't make sense to me and I can't relate to it, if it makes sense to them, I'm a respecter.
[02:26:16]  But why are we as society forced to play make-believe?
[02:26:20]  But it's their sexual interaction.
[02:26:23]  That's their sexual activity.
[02:26:24]  What if I had a female girlfriend who identifies that?
[02:26:26]  So it doesn't affect you, is what I'm saying.
[02:26:28]  It does actually.
[02:26:28]  I actually have a story about a transgender person that did something very terrifying to me, so maybe you should keep your mindset.
[02:26:34]  I'm saying I actually am scared.
[02:26:35]  A sexual encounter.
[02:26:37]  A sexual encounter between a trans woman and a man happening in private with like out of your way does not affect you.
[02:26:45]  So it depends on how you think.
[02:26:46]  But what's reality?
[02:26:47]  What do you say?
[02:26:48]  It depends on how they think about it.
[02:26:49]  Well, two things can be true.
[02:26:50]  You can say, you can say that you respect that, but also it's not a heterosexual.
[02:26:56]  Yeah, exactly.
[02:26:57]  I think that's where I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
[02:26:58]  You can totally respect it.
[02:26:59]  You can say this.
[02:27:00]  Well, I would say if I picture the sexual bad act, let's say you're a woman, you're wearing a dildo or a strap one or whatever, and he's sucking on the strap one.
[02:27:10]  Does that automatically make him gay?
[02:27:12]  That's a great point to bring up.
[02:27:14]  I think when a woman pegs a man, it's gay.
[02:27:16]  He's got some sort of, but what makes a tendency to be a little bit more.
[02:27:19]  Well, it's not actually gay.
[02:27:20]  I would argue against it.
[02:27:21]  I would say it's not gay because you're still with a woman.
[02:27:23]  It's like it's a gay tendency.
[02:27:24]  He has a gay tendency for her.
[02:27:26]  You have a problem with that.
[02:27:28]  Socially speaking, that could be a heuristic to come to that conclusion, but ultimately, if he's not willing to do that with a man, then he still maintains a lot of people.
[02:27:34]  If he's willing to suck like a classic behavior, he's really freaky, he's a freaky guy, but he's still straight.
[02:27:43]  If he's doing it with a man, a rubber spiritual, that's a whole different other energy.
[02:27:47]  That's a whole different other sex.
[02:27:48]  I agree with you.
[02:27:49]  So girls have pegged a man.
[02:27:50]  Yeah, that's not gay.
[02:27:51]  But he's freaky listening.
[02:27:53]  How do you mean?
[02:27:53]  But it's not gay.
[02:27:54]  Like her system of defining this is actually the same as mine because I'm saying it doesn't depend on like the sexual details of what happening, of what's happening, even if it looks gay, even if it looks straight.
[02:28:02]  We're talking about it.
[02:28:02]  It depends on the identity of the person.
[02:28:04]  No, it's transferred.
[02:28:06]  What if a man is having sex with a 13-year-old girl who identifies as 21?
[02:28:09]  It depends on the identity of the person.
[02:28:11]  Yeah, because it's a slippery slope of plain reality.
[02:28:14]  Is a man having sex with a 13-year-old girl?
[02:28:17]  Is that pedophilia?
[02:28:18]  Maybe.
[02:28:18]  But what if they think of it as she's actually older?
[02:28:21]  Riley, maybe.
[02:28:22]  She's existed for that matter.
[02:28:23]  No, T-OS.
[02:28:25]  No, no, no.
[02:28:25]  TOS.
[02:28:26]  Yeah, the terms of service.
[02:28:27]  Terms of service.
[02:28:28]  Please don't tell me I'm trying to find a scenario where we can like.
[02:28:31]  Well, it happens in other countries, right?
[02:28:33]  Like children marriage happens in other countries.
[02:28:35]  And that sucks.
[02:28:36]  But maybe bring it over here.
[02:28:38]  Maybe we should restrain from bringing over in here.
[02:28:40]  I never said we should bring it over here.
[02:28:42]  I never saved it for the children.
[02:28:45]  Maybe we should restrain from the child narrative.
[02:28:47]  It's an easy point.
[02:28:48]  But I would say, honestly, when it comes to the whole trans woman narrative, the trans man narrative, when it comes to a woman transitioning into a man, there are severe traumas that have not been assessed, and she is doing permanent physical mutilation to her body.
[02:28:59]  If you're okay with that, then 10 toes to the floor.
[02:29:01]  I think there should be an age minimum for any like.
[02:29:04]  I don't think there's an age minimum.
[02:29:06]  I think across the board, you are mutilating your body.
[02:29:08]  It's a healthy body.
[02:29:09]  Why would a doctor who has a HIPAA compliance oath do that to someone?
[02:29:14]  Surgery is not necessarily going to be a good idea.
[02:29:15]  If a man in his brain thought that his dog was an adult human female, would it be okay for that man to have sex with his dog?
[02:29:20]  No.
[02:29:20]  It's the same thing.
[02:29:21]  We're talking about human beings here.
[02:29:22]  I can't.
[02:29:23]  Wait a minute.
[02:29:24]  What were you going to say?
[02:29:25]  I just want to say that.
[02:29:26]  I have a bit of a hot take because somebody brought up pegging.
[02:29:30]  I think that was me.
[02:29:32]  I think if you're a guy and you like getting pegged, it's kind of gay.
[02:29:38]  It's kind of gay.
[02:29:39]  I understand.
[02:29:39]  I understand.
[02:29:40]  I understand what I'm going to say about you're gay.
[02:29:42]  I still think it's gay.
[02:29:44]  Even if it's a woman doing the pegging, I still think it's gay.
[02:29:47]  I get it.
[02:29:49]  But at the same time, if he was gay, it's so easy to do it with a man.
[02:29:52]  It is so easy.
[02:29:54]  It is so easy to do.
[02:29:58]  Is it going to be a bad thing?
[02:30:00]  I personally agree.
[02:30:00]  It's weird.
[02:30:01]  It's freaking weird.
[02:30:01]  They're definitely going out and getting pegged by mangirl.
[02:30:04]  To clarify, it was definitely men.
[02:30:06]  And, you know, they feel like they're super machos.
[02:30:09]  It was a Mexican man, so he loved it.
[02:30:11]  They have to release the tension somehow.
[02:30:13]  Wait, can I get back?
[02:30:14]  Can I go back to those things up here?
[02:30:16]  That's weird.
[02:30:16]  Why are they making it?
[02:30:18]  No, but it's a thing.
[02:30:19]  Let's cut their brain.
[02:30:21]  I don't think they're going to be able to do that.
[02:30:22]  Or unless you're watching it.
[02:30:25]  One at a time.
[02:30:26]  Can I go back to this?
[02:30:27]  What's your name?
[02:30:28]  I'm sorry.
[02:30:28]  Can I go back to what your point that you just said?
[02:30:30]  Frankie?
[02:30:31]  Frankie just said, brought up a good point.
[02:30:32]  She said most people that transition end up committing.
[02:30:37]  Okay.
[02:30:37]  And I want to delve into that real quick.
[02:30:39]  I used to work for a hormone specialist in Solana Beach, California.
[02:30:41]  And so I used to have to follow around, listen to everything.
[02:30:43]  She, what I learned from her is that hormones are the center of our health.
[02:30:48]  Doctors take a Hippocratic oath.
[02:30:49]  And in that Hippocratic oath, it is what?
[02:30:51]  Do not, what is it, cause harm.
[02:30:54]  Hormones are the center of our health.
[02:30:56]  If our hormones, even if a woman who has PC LS or whatever gets overweight, even someone that's done.
[02:31:01]  It throws up our hormones, which throws off our thyroid.
[02:31:04]  This is not health care.
[02:31:05]  This is mutilating your brain.
[02:31:06]  Now, if you want to dress up as a woman, by all means.
[02:31:09]  But to sit there and chop your reproductive system that regulates your hormones and to say that's healthcare, it's not.
[02:31:15]  It actually causes cancers, diabetes.
[02:31:17]  It increases mental health issues.
[02:31:19]  And if you want, I have a story about a trans person.
[02:31:22]  I have a personal story, and this is why I'm so passionate about it.
[02:31:25]  I was the victim to a trans person.
[02:31:28]  I was trying to be inclusive.
[02:31:29]  I was trying to be nice.
[02:31:30]  And it bit me in the ass.
[02:31:31]  This was a trans woman, had everything but the bottom surgery.
[02:31:36]  Looked like a man, though.
[02:31:37]  I mean, like, huge, 6'4, huge.
[02:31:40]  I wish I could pull up my phone and show a picture.
[02:31:42]  Was a friend, he would come over all the time, and you know, we'd smoke weed.
[02:31:47]  We were just like stoner friends together or whatever.
[02:31:49]  Well, she, I'll say.
[02:31:51]  Now, this person had my last name and his first name were the same.
[02:31:55]  Just keep that in the back of your mind.
[02:31:56]  One day he comes over, he's drumming his fingers and staring at me.
[02:32:00]  He said, I have something I need to talk to you about.
[02:32:02]  Now, I'm working from home.
[02:32:03]  It's during COVID.
[02:32:04]  I'm talking to my boss.
[02:32:04]  While I'm talking to my boss, I just felt this like stare, and I look over, and the way he was looking at me and just drumming his fingers at me.
[02:32:14]  And I was genuinely terrified.
[02:32:16]  So my cousin called after my meeting with my boss, and I went outside, came back in.
[02:32:23]  For all I knew, Kelly was gone.
[02:32:25]  Okay.
[02:32:25]  And I was like, okay, thank God.
[02:32:27]  That was so uncomfortable.
[02:32:28]  Well, I'm like working from home.
[02:32:31]  All of a sudden, I get a this is when I live in California, a beating on the door.
[02:32:35]  And I look out, and everyone knows that California cops, you have to be basically in the middle of murdering someone for them to even do anything.
[02:32:41]  So when I saw what I saw, my people, it was terrifying.
[02:32:44]  So many cops, so many firefighters, so many everything.
[02:32:48]  And I opened the door and they said, Kelly, and I. You're kind of talking a lot.
[02:32:52]  Oh, sorry.
[02:32:54]  You're okay.
[02:32:54]  But that being said, as valid as usual, land the plane real quick.
[02:32:58]  Okay.
[02:32:59]  I said, I think you have the wrong person.
[02:33:01]  I shut the door.
[02:33:02]  They busted into the door.
[02:33:04]  Kelly was in my kid's room hiding and called and said something very terrifying.
[02:33:09]  And that's why the cops pull out.
[02:33:10]  And I went into and found, like, they pulled him out, put him in a 48-hour hold, and I found a sack of every drug you can think of.
[02:33:19]  He was doctor hopping, mental health to the roof bad.
[02:33:24]  All the, I mean, hormones, everything.
[02:33:26]  I mean, that is not medical, that's not medicine.
[02:33:30]  And most of them are being treated this way.
[02:33:31]  Well, that's the thing.
[02:33:31]  Do you hate this trans person because they had a lot of hormones that were found?
[02:33:35]  I'm just checking.
[02:33:36]  What?
[02:33:36]  What?
[02:33:36]  You said that.
[02:33:37]  No, because they were hiding in my bedroom and threatening to hurt me.
[02:33:41]  Okay.
[02:33:42]  Because they were on all these hormones.
[02:33:43]  I was just checking.
[02:33:43]  Yeah.
[02:33:44]  Okay.
[02:33:44]  Thank you.
[02:33:46]  Huffing and puffing at her story.
[02:33:47]  Do you respect men?
[02:33:47]  I didn't help them puff at her story.
[02:33:49]  I was listening to you.
[02:33:50]  Do you respect men with porn addictions?
[02:33:52]  Do I respect?
[02:33:53]  Do you respect men with porn addictions?
[02:33:54]  No.
[02:33:55]  How can you do that?
[02:33:55]  Then why do you respect trans women?
[02:33:56]  They're literally transitioning because they watch too much porn.
[02:33:59]  That's got to be a problem.
[02:34:00]  I said everyone transitions because they watched it.

=== Subverting European Culture (05:09) ===

[02:34:02]  It's just because they're not.
[02:34:03]  I don't know what that is.
[02:34:04]  They always transition because there's a link.
[02:34:07]  I don't know if it's saying that children transition.
[02:34:11]  And autogynophilia is a real reason that you're not.
[02:34:14]  So every trans person is a porn addict?
[02:34:15]  No, she never said that.
[02:34:16]  Well, that's what I was trying to say, though.
[02:34:18]  A quarter of them used to be homosexual, and they usually transitioned because they had a terrible relationship with their father.
[02:34:23]  Once it became a trend, then typically incels started trans maxing after watching enough pornography, and they started imagining themselves having sex with women.
[02:34:32]  Yeah, if you actually look at the written work of it's a trans woman, I can't remember their name, but basically the fantasy is to be the one getting fucked.
[02:34:43]  Like, that's how they detail it.
[02:34:45]  And so, there is like a kink aspect for some.
[02:34:49]  I don't know.
[02:34:51]  But, like, if you think about the percentage of men who watch porn, it kind of checks out.
[02:34:58]  Because if you, the way that porn websites work is it starts you, you know, with something really simple, and then the whole like websites are designed to kind of like keep shoving you into different niches.
[02:35:11]  And I can see how men could end up there watching that kind of content.
[02:35:15]  Yep.
[02:35:15]  Of course, that's just for male to female.
[02:35:17]  What are we talking about for female to male?
[02:35:19]  They were traumatized.
[02:35:20]  They're usually victims of sexual by another transgender or gay.
[02:35:23]  They like to be a lot of people who are in the world.
[02:35:24]  Are the majority of those trans people victims of sexual assault?
[02:35:27]  Like from the homosexual ones are liable.
[02:35:29]  It's like 60% of gay men are victims of like CSA.
[02:35:32]  When it comes to women, most of them have had a traumatic physical experience in their adolescence or childhood.
[02:35:37]  That's why they want to chop off.
[02:35:38]  And it's not standard guns because that's the causation definitively to you.
[02:35:42]  Well, I'm just curious because I've never friends because since it's becoming a popular thing, I've never seen these statistics and I've never heard of blehemia trans women hop on self-determination.
[02:35:49]  I've met a lot of trans people in the same way.
[02:35:51]  And it's not even either.
[02:35:52]  They're just easy to lie to.
[02:35:53]  You move the goalposts.
[02:35:54]  You're not really the greatest when it comes to having a grasp on reality.
[02:35:57]  You used personal anecdotes earlier.
[02:35:58]  I did not use any personal anecdotes.
[02:36:00]  You said that judgment against the Hispanics didn't exist because you never faced it anyway.
[02:36:03]  No, statistically speaking, why would they come over if there's discrimination?
[02:36:06]  There's literally no discrimination.
[02:36:07]  Because they could still get a job.
[02:36:08]  You're the one using anecdotes saying, oh, they're discriminated.
[02:36:10]  I'm talking about prejudice.
[02:36:11]  You don't even have it.
[02:36:13]  Why don't they get a job in Mexico then?
[02:36:15]  Because the job in America probably pays you more.
[02:36:17]  Why?
[02:36:18]  Because we have a better economy.
[02:36:19]  Yeah, why is it better?
[02:36:20]  We both have access to the Pacific and the Atlantic Ocean.
[02:36:23]  Like, what makes America better?
[02:36:24]  They're closer to the Panama Canal.
[02:36:26]  Really?
[02:36:26]  Like, every reason that the American economy is better, like, just more developed.
[02:36:30]  It's just a root of developed country.
[02:36:31]  Why?
[02:36:31]  Why?
[02:36:31]  Yeah.
[02:36:32]  What would you say the root of it is?
[02:36:33]  I would say that because most people here are European of European.
[02:36:37]  So you think, like, just like the phenotype is what's associated with the amount of money generated?
[02:36:42]  The vast majority of the country.
[02:36:43]  What about the European phenotype generates more money in Puritans?
[02:36:46]  I don't know.
[02:36:46]  I don't know either.
[02:36:47]  I keep long-term thinking.
[02:36:48]  You're just saying you believe this.
[02:36:49]  Well, because here's the thing: Europeans, throughout the entirety of Europe, they have to go through a hot summer, cold winter, hot summer, cold winter.
[02:36:55]  If somebody is living off the coast of Nigeria and the entire civilization is built off the coast of Nigeria, if you can call it a civilization, they're just constantly at like 80 degrees non-stop.
[02:37:05]  They don't have to build a shelter.
[02:37:06]  They don't have to prepare for food.
[02:37:07]  While people in Europe, they'd have to prepare food for the winter, build a good shelter for the winter.
[02:37:11]  Then in the summer, it's hot.
[02:37:12]  They have to figure out things.
[02:37:12]  They have to go back and forth with these things, which is why Europe and East Asia are so developed.
[02:37:17]  Are you talking a lot?
[02:37:19]  Really?
[02:37:20]  Yeah, I was really nice.
[02:37:22]  I was really nice and didn't interrupt anyone for a decent bit of time.
[02:37:26]  And then it's like, then you just had to do it to me.
[02:37:29]  I thought we were friends.
[02:37:31]  I do disagree with your point to an extent, though, because I say that there's different economic systems that have helped in each nation.
[02:37:37]  Each nation builds their own economic system based on the cultural values.
[02:37:40]  I think that there's foreign international elements that are subverting Africa, that are subverting South America from their natural economy.
[02:37:46]  Because look at that.
[02:37:47]  Okay, but what about before?
[02:37:49]  Kelly has made a perfect nation, but he was able to incarcerate all the criminals.
[02:37:52]  Where before he wasn't allowed to because the multinational corporations necessitated it, why did Africa never develop before globalization?
[02:37:58]  Well, that's the argument that I'm going to predate.
[02:38:01]  Before colonization, they were basically fine doing whatever they had to do.
[02:38:05]  If you believe that people need to remain and prosper within their own cultural homogeneity, why?
[02:38:10]  But then why not being fine remaining in Mexico?
[02:38:12]  Why exactly were Europeans, well, actually, it predates.
[02:38:15]  Why exactly were Arabs going into Africa, subverting their nations and using them as slave labor?
[02:38:19]  They were fine as is.
[02:38:20]  In fact, even South Africa is evidence of that.
[02:38:22]  When the Dutch were building their communities, Rhodesia is also an example of that.
[02:38:25]  When the Dutch were, well, the British were building their civilizations, a lot of Africans remain in their tribal centers in their allotted spaces.
[02:38:32]  They had their own maintenance.
[02:38:34]  They understood what their values were.
[02:38:35]  They understood what made them happy.
[02:38:36]  At the end of the day, it's really the Industrial Revolution that has messed everyone up, including our own country.
[02:38:41]  This is why we're criticizing the nature of our own economy, our own civilization.
[02:38:44]  Okay, so why do you think the Industrial Revolution happened between England and the United States, predominantly white countries?
[02:38:49]  Why didn't it happen in Africa?
[02:38:50]  There was actually a really interesting documentary pertaining to this called Guns, Germs, and Steel.
[02:38:55]  It has to do with the distribution of germs and bacteria, as well as where steel was found and who was able to get it.
[02:38:59]  So it's because Europeans lived in dense cities and stuff, and that's why there's disease that they built immunity.
[02:39:04]  That's not what I said.
[02:39:05]  I mean, like, it's been a while.
[02:39:05]  You just mentioned germs, and I'm assuming.
[02:39:08]  I don't want to have a whole conversation about it, but like...
[02:39:09]  You can stand on nothing.

=== Ethnicity And Dress Codes (07:07) ===

[02:39:11]  You have a foundation of sanity.
[02:39:13]  Okay, I've forgotten for this.
[02:39:14]  But I do think that's what I'm saying.
[02:39:16]  It's all environmentally dictated.
[02:39:17]  So the reason why Africa's...
[02:39:19]  Oh, yeah, yeah, that's what I said.
[02:39:19]  The environment.
[02:39:20]  Like, why are they going to be aware of that?
[02:39:20]  That's not important.
[02:39:22]  But you said Africans didn't reach the Industrial Revolution is because their environment gave them all of the resources.
[02:39:27]  When it comes to Asia, they had to be collectivists because they all were working the rain, what's it called?
[02:39:31]  The rain, or the rice farms, the rice fields, rather.
[02:39:34]  But it got in Arab.
[02:39:35]  It's a wheat-based system.
[02:39:36]  So that's why they prioritize individualism.
[02:39:37]  When it comes to the southern Europeans, they're Mediterranean.
[02:39:40]  How did we get off first?
[02:39:41]  We were talking about porn.
[02:39:43]  Yeah, and then men get impacted by women, and now we're actually talking about rain.
[02:39:49]  It's a pretty long podcast.
[02:39:50]  So like we're kind of like, why am I born?
[02:39:52]  I'm just trying to do that where we're starting.
[02:39:54]  I don't know how we got to this point, honestly.
[02:39:55]  Is your name Angelico?
[02:39:57]  Yes.
[02:39:57]  Okay, I wanted to ask you, so as far as the trans maxing, do you think it's more about them trying to validate themselves?
[02:40:03]  No, I honestly think it's not even a validation.
[02:40:05]  I think there's no identity when it comes to particularly white men in this country.
[02:40:08]  So they're seeking anything to basically get their bare minimum needs met, which is sex.
[02:40:12]  So if they're going to find sex easier by being a trans, which is seemingly the most socially promoted thing, clearly, then obviously they're going to go down that route.
[02:40:20]  But when it comes to my argument, is anyone who promotes this trans agenda, are you willing to take responsibility on for the surgical mutilations that they take on, the way that they're going to propagate it onto children, the fact that we have to tax subsidize their surgeries and not tax subsidize childbirth.
[02:40:35]  Women in this country have to pay $20 to $50K in childbirth, but we fully fund a man becoming a woman.
[02:40:40]  You don't have to pay $20 to $50,000.
[02:40:41]  Isn't being trans a social disadvantage, though?
[02:40:44]  No, clearly not.
[02:40:45]  You support them.
[02:40:45]  Well, clearly.
[02:40:46]  Like blindly.
[02:40:47]  In fact, in schools, in every academic, they get incentives for being transparent.
[02:40:50]  The man that attacked me, my company paid 90% of his sex SRS.
[02:40:56]  I don't agree with that.
[02:40:57]  And I would love a Tommy Tac after having three kids.
[02:41:00]  Do you think that was supported to me?
[02:41:03]  There's no such thing as trans rights.
[02:41:05]  Everyone has the same rights.
[02:41:06]  Mental illness promotion.
[02:41:08]  Yeah.
[02:41:09]  They are mentally ill.
[02:41:10]  What rights they're doing?
[02:41:12]  How are you going to take it?
[02:41:14]  I will take full responsibility.
[02:41:14]  Because they're not wanting to reproduce.
[02:41:16]  If I will take full responsibility, if we see a society not wanting to be predominantly encouraging these people to find some security in their femininity and in their masculinity, I will not take responsibility for what they end up hurting themselves doing or the illusion that they end up promoting.
[02:41:28]  Will you take responsibility for the delusions that they're having and what they do to their own body?
[02:41:32]  Would you?
[02:41:32]  No.
[02:41:32]  Would you?
[02:41:33]  Of course not.
[02:41:34]  Would you treat a schizophrenic by talking to the invisible people that they're seeing?
[02:41:38]  Would you treat it that way?
[02:41:40]  No, but that's because you're acknowledging one as a mental illness and the other as like yours.
[02:41:45]  How is thinking that you're something that you're not a mental illness?
[02:41:49]  Well, that's because you like, again, I respect these people's identity.
[02:41:51]  I see that it's not a mental idea.
[02:41:54]  So I don't think, like, that goes down to whether or not you view them as a woman.
[02:41:57]  What is a mental illness?
[02:41:59]  A mental illness, I'd say, is like a problem that exists within your mind mentally that plagues you.
[02:42:05]  So someone that needs to be on hormones and mutilate their body and again, I wouldn't even call it mutilation.
[02:42:09]  And I wouldn't say they're something that they're not.
[02:42:11]  I wouldn't say take.
[02:42:12]  I don't want to get too vulgar, but if a man ends up inverting his private parts, it will necrify.
[02:42:17]  They have to dilate it, and it ends up dying from the wound itself.
[02:42:21]  50% of them die, including women, from the wound itself because it dies.
[02:42:25]  The flesh dies.
[02:42:26]  Then they get infections because they're trying to pee out of something that is completely mutilated.
[02:42:29]  And they have a lot of people.
[02:42:30]  It is mutilation.
[02:42:31]  They have identified.
[02:42:31]  And they are inside of the flesh.
[02:42:35]  It is mutilation.
[02:42:36]  And you're encouraging that.
[02:42:37]  Don't be afraid of that.
[02:42:38]  I'm encouraging that.
[02:42:39]  That is just respecting a trans person.
[02:42:44]  I was not talking about that procedure.
[02:42:45]  I was talking about colouring about their own parents.
[02:42:48]  Also, can I bring you a picture?
[02:42:48]  Yo, Angelica, Angelica.
[02:42:50]  If you're going to fucking have a conversation with her, you got to let her finish without interrupting.
[02:42:55]  It's fucking dog shit for the audio.
[02:42:57]  Go ahead.
[02:42:58]  I was just going to say, when I say I respect a trans person's identity, I am saying, like, okay, I will, if you want to identify as a woman, I will call you as such.
[02:43:06]  I will treat you as such.
[02:43:07]  I am not saying that this particular procedure that has all these adverse effects on the human body, that I am encouraging everyone to get this procedure.
[02:43:14]  I don't know about that procedure.
[02:43:15]  And if it's really harmful, then I would, and it's causing like all these people all this harm.
[02:43:19]  Then I'm not for that.
[02:43:20]  Can I identify as black?
[02:43:22]  Sorry.
[02:43:22]  Which is why she was saying that she doesn't care if they suck a penis or not because they already identified a woman, which makes them a woman.
[02:43:28]  The surgery does not make them a woman.
[02:43:30]  But that's playing.
[02:43:31]  I want her to answer the.
[02:43:32]  Can I identify as black?
[02:43:33]  Why the hell not?
[02:43:35]  Because I don't think your ethnicity is like a social construct.
[02:43:38]  Well, that's the point.
[02:43:39]  Yes, it is.
[02:43:41]  If you knew better, you wouldn't think that way.
[02:43:43]  Why do you think we're arguing with you?
[02:43:45]  Do you think that white people are the dominant race in America?
[02:43:47]  Yes or no?
[02:43:50]  I don't know.
[02:43:51]  Do they make up the biggest percentage?
[02:43:53]  Yes.
[02:43:54]  Yes, but do you think that they dominate everywhere?
[02:43:55]  Schools?
[02:43:57]  That wasn't your original question.
[02:43:59]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[02:44:00]  I don't know where she's going.
[02:44:03]  Those are two separate things.
[02:44:04]  Okay.
[02:44:04]  Do you think that white people dominate the world?
[02:44:07]  Dominate the world?
[02:44:08]  No, not necessarily.
[02:44:09]  There's like a billion people in China.
[02:44:12]  So if we just talk about demographic percentages, then I don't think they're the.
[02:44:16]  Okay, do you think white people dominate America?
[02:44:19]  Well, if we're talking like demographically, if they make up the biggest percentage, then yeah.
[02:44:22]  But do you think we have the most benefits in society and we're the less oppressed?
[02:44:29]  I wouldn't not necessarily know.
[02:44:31]  Okay.
[02:44:35]  What's your where are you taking your line of questioning?
[02:44:38]  I don't know where she's going.
[02:44:39]  Because race is a social construct, too.
[02:44:41]  Because there's a lot of people out there that say, oh, well, white people have more of an advantage.
[02:44:45]  Ethnicity isn't, though.
[02:44:47]  Then that makes ethnicity and race a social construct when you say things like that.
[02:44:51]  I'd say race is a very hard person.
[02:44:54]  Like someone could perceive me as one thing, but I could not be that thing when it comes to race.
[02:44:58]  Like, for example, he thought I was like Hispanic.
[02:45:00]  So where they started.
[02:45:01]  But my ethnicity is Indian.
[02:45:03]  I have like, that's like in my DNA that's been tested.
[02:45:05]  Like that's.
[02:45:07]  Yeah.
[02:45:08]  Okay, but I wanted to go back to it though.
[02:45:09]  Like, why can't I really identify as black?
[02:45:11]  Why can't I do that?
[02:45:13]  Because I don't think that there's anything about that that you can relate to.
[02:45:16]  Okay.
[02:45:17]  What if I adopt black culture?
[02:45:18]  What if I have dreadlocks on?
[02:45:20]  What if I like knock up some women and don't take care of them?
[02:45:22]  Like that's not black culture.
[02:45:24]  That's not.
[02:45:26]  It's where it's tied to your heritage.
[02:45:27]  It's tied to like your ethnicity is tied to your heritage.
[02:45:30]  Like going way back, it's tied to your family.
[02:45:32]  It's tied to your upbringing.
[02:45:33]  It's tied to your background.
[02:45:34]  It's probably tied to the places you visited.
[02:45:36]  Isn't your gender tied to your sex?
[02:45:38]  Yeah, but your sex just starts at your birth.
[02:45:42]  I said, I already acknowledged the biological reality within gender earlier.
[02:45:45]  To be fair, to be fair, though, I saw that earlier.
[02:45:49]  I said there is equally a sexual aspect and a biological aspect.
[02:45:52]  I want to mention that leaving a woman pregnant out of wedlock.
[02:45:55]  That is the absence of culture and responsibility.
[02:45:57]  Exactly.
[02:45:57]  That's something I need to encourage.
[02:45:59]  When it comes to black culture, there are elements of music and culture that need to be respected.
[02:46:03]  But when it comes to leaving a woman pregnant and abandoning her, that is the absence of culture.
[02:46:07]  I would say being black does not depend on your hairstyle or music taste.
[02:46:10]  It depends on your heritage.
[02:46:12]  Well, why doesn't it depend on that?

=== Title IX Physiology (05:45) ===

[02:46:18]  I think that people need to start being okay with seeing men in dresses and not calling them women.
[02:46:24]  I think that men should be able to be feminine and to wear dresses, have long hair, whatever, without being called a woman.
[02:46:31]  Yeah, but that was the whole thing with Kurt Cobain.
[02:46:33]  It's like that's been normalized.
[02:46:34]  That was actually like popular.
[02:46:35]  People get banned and that also is healthy for a few years.
[02:46:40]  Because it's a trend to be transgender, there is a difference between transgender people that are transgender because of the mental illness, gender dysphoria, which is real and hard to deal with, whatever.
[02:46:51]  And transgender people who are transgender because they want to be part of this gender.
[02:46:57]  They want to look feminine and call themselves.
[02:46:59]  I don't care.
[02:46:59]  You should be able to be feminine and wear a dress and look like a woman without calling it.
[02:47:05]  The last point I'm not going to have is when it comes to someone who is truly mentally ill, which used to be the case before it became a trend, would you be okay with them getting surgical procedures as opposed to psychiatric help?
[02:47:15]  No, you can't, if you have some other type of delusion where you really feel like you need to have your leg chopped off, a doctor's not going to do that.
[02:47:26]  Obviously.
[02:47:27]  I think that it probably should be the same for transgender people.
[02:47:32]  You should be able to look like a woman and do feminine things without having to change the one thing that nobody sees.
[02:47:40]  I'm in agreement.
[02:47:40]  And calling yourself a woman.
[02:47:42]  I'm in agreement.
[02:47:43]  I also just want to say, like, if you're considering transgender, like, a mental illness, I really also hope you're not going to be able to do that.
[02:47:49]  It's always been a good idea.
[02:47:50]  I'd like to see an advocate for mental health awareness, more mental health resources being put into schools and things of that sort.
[02:47:54]  I just hope that that's the case for you.
[02:47:56]  Yeah.
[02:47:56]  Congratulations, it is.
[02:47:58]  You got what you received.
[02:47:58]  No, I'm just, I'm just checking.
[02:47:59]  I'm just hoping.
[02:48:00]  Congratulations.
[02:48:01]  Of course, of course.
[02:48:02]  The unknown soldier donated $200.
[02:48:04]  Thank you, man.
[02:48:05]  I'd like to lighten the mood with a poem about mathematics.
[02:48:09]  It's called 1 million.
[02:48:10]  Don't cut me off, Brian.
[02:48:13]  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
[02:48:21]  You got to keep going.
[02:48:22]  13, 14, 15.
[02:48:24]  Hey, man, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24.
[02:48:32]  Hey, man, you're going to be spending a lot of money tonight, man.
[02:48:35]  If it's a poem called 1 million, you got to get it.
[02:48:40]  You might make me...
[02:48:41]  You're going to drop like five figures, six figures tonight, maybe more.
[02:48:45]  I'm not sure, though.
[02:48:46]  No, wait, hold on.
[02:48:48]  What would be if you can fit 25, so it'd be like a million divided by 25?
[02:48:52]  4,000.
[02:48:55]  Wait.
[02:48:55]  800,000?
[02:48:56]  Wait, hold on.
[02:48:57]  4,000?
[02:48:57]  Wait, a million divided by...
[02:48:59]  Wait, am I retarded?
[02:49:00]  Oh, no.
[02:49:01]  40,000.
[02:49:02]  I'm actually typing.
[02:49:02]  It's 40,000.
[02:49:03]  Yeah, it wouldn't be 40,000.
[02:49:06]  Wait, it's 40,000, right?
[02:49:09]  Wait, no, hold on.
[02:49:10]  No.
[02:49:11]  40 million.
[02:49:12]  No, it wouldn't be 8.
[02:49:14]  No, divided by.
[02:49:15]  Wait.
[02:49:16]  Am I. Multiplied by 200, though.
[02:49:19]  Divided by 25.
[02:49:23]  It would be 40,000.
[02:49:25]  He could send in 40,000 super chats.
[02:49:27]  So times 200.
[02:49:29]  Hold on.
[02:49:29]  Let me do the math.
[02:49:31]  I'm actually retarded.
[02:49:32]  Can we at least get to 100 though?
[02:49:34]  It would be 8 million.
[02:49:34]  It wouldn't get to 100, though.
[02:49:36]  I think we could get to 100.
[02:49:38]  Yeah, I appreciate that.
[02:49:39]  I appreciate that.
[02:49:40]  I still am going to do the champagne pot from earlier.
[02:49:42]  We're going to shift gears here.
[02:49:44]  We do have a super chat also from Jim Bob.
[02:49:48]  If a woman is anyone that wants to claim they are a woman, why do we have Title IX?
[02:49:53]  Why are you misogynist?
[02:49:55]  Oh.
[02:49:56]  Yeah.
[02:49:56]  I was going to, I tried to bring up Title IX.
[02:49:58]  Tell me more about Title IX.
[02:50:00]  It happened during Brown of Education.
[02:50:03]  Brown versus.
[02:50:05]  It like ensures a division between men's and women's sports and things like that, so that way women can compete fairly.
[02:50:12]  It happened during Brown versus Board of Education.
[02:50:14]  Reason we have Title IX is because like sports plays a lot into like your body, your physiology, and because like men and women from birth have very different physiology, like there needs to be something like that.
[02:50:25]  Do you think that a trans woman or trans person in general has a duty or should have a duty to disclose to a potential romantic party?
[02:50:34]  Disclose your private parts?
[02:50:36]  I think so, yeah.
[02:50:37]  I think that should be like something they should be honest about.
[02:50:39]  Yeah, last week we had a woman saying that there was no duty.
[02:50:43]  Well, there isn't like a legal duty, so technically someone could like bamboozle you.
[02:50:48]  But I think there should be like a moral ethical duty.
[02:50:51]  Like if you're trans, you should probably disclose that and not let's say you're super passing or whatever.
[02:50:59]  Although I like to think that it's usually pretty obvious, but you know.
[02:51:03]  There's some good ones out there.
[02:51:05]  Yeah, look, some of the lady boys or whatever, I guess they're not.
[02:51:07]  Oh, I know someone.
[02:51:08]  I know someone might get killed because I think he didn't discuss it.
[02:51:12]  I think they should disclose it.
[02:51:13]  But I thought they were a woman.
[02:51:15]  What makes them different from a normal woman?
[02:51:16]  What does it have to do with whether or not I think they should disclose it?
[02:51:19]  I think that's a major part of their identity.
[02:51:21]  I thought they were just a normal woman, though.
[02:51:23]  That's interesting.
[02:51:23]  So it should be a normal normal normal.
[02:51:24]  I think they're a woman, but obviously they have a very different experience in a very different past.
[02:51:29]  And that also, like, again, relates to their physiology in some way.
[02:51:32]  Okay, let me ask.
[02:51:33]  If a man were to have sex with you, sorry, it's awkward.
[02:51:36]  But if a man were to have sex with you, would it be Gary Strait?
[02:51:39]  Like, is it straight for him to do that?
[02:51:41]  That would be straight.
[02:51:42]  I also want to clarify: I'm not attracted to trans men personally.
[02:51:48]  Okay.
[02:51:49]  By the way, guys, my math hiccup there, I drank so much from that champagne bottle.
[02:51:56]  I'm still a bit tipsy, so when I'm a little, you know, alcohol is involved, my math just completely that's why we don't have any extra champagne.

=== Dating Rating Scale (12:30) ===

[02:52:04]  That's the real reason.
[02:52:04]  You got another one, right?
[02:52:05]  Yeah, there's another one.
[02:52:06]  We're going to pop another one.
[02:52:07]  So, Robert Tanner, we're going to pop that in just a moment.
[02:52:10]  Well, I do have to move it on, but we have Gorlock the Destroyer.
[02:52:13]  This is a dating question on a scale of one, zero to 10.
[02:52:16]  Rate your own looks.
[02:52:18]  Hold on, let me repeat that because I fucking stuttered.
[02:52:21]  On a scale of zero to 10, rate your own looks.
[02:52:24]  Face, body, total, can't pick seven.
[02:52:25]  So do it like, for example, I'll go ahead and rate myself.
[02:52:29]  Face 4.5, body, 4.5, total 4.5.
[02:52:33]  So if you can break it down, like your face rating, body rating, total rating, starting with you.
[02:52:38]  Can I just say like 6.5?
[02:52:40]  No, just do face, body, total.
[02:52:42]  So total would be.
[02:52:43]  I'll just say 6.5 for everything.
[02:52:45]  So can you do face 6.5?
[02:52:47]  Face 6.5, body 6.5, total 6.5.
[02:52:50]  I think you're...
[02:52:51]  Stop, Sorry.
[02:52:53]  Stop.
[02:52:53]  We don't need the constant buttons on some of these.
[02:52:56]  Just allow the people.
[02:52:57]  Let me go around the panel.
[02:52:58]  Go ahead.
[02:52:58]  Face six, body six, total six.
[02:53:02]  Okay.
[02:53:05]  Face six, body six, total six as well.
[02:53:08]  Okay.
[02:53:10]  Face four and a half, body six, total five.
[02:53:15]  Yeah.
[02:53:17]  Face five, body five, total five.
[02:53:21]  Face five point five, body six point five.
[02:53:24]  I don't know, total, just five and five in general, five point five.
[02:53:29]  Um, eight, eight, eight.
[02:53:34]  Uh, I think personality plays a huge role.
[02:53:37]  We're talking about looks.
[02:53:38]  I know.
[02:53:38]  I think it plays a role.
[02:53:40]  I would say eight, eight, and eight.
[02:53:43]  Okay, what about you?
[02:53:46]  Mike, closer to the mic, please.
[02:53:48]  Four, six, seven.
[02:53:51]  I don't know.
[02:53:52]  That doesn't make sense.
[02:53:55]  The math is not happy.
[02:53:56]  Yeah, in total, just like a six.
[02:53:58]  Oh, I was just trying to tell this lady that she undercut herself.
[02:54:02]  I think you're very beautiful, FYI.
[02:54:03]  Thank you.
[02:54:04]  Yeah.
[02:54:04]  I would say seven and a half all around, like down the board.
[02:54:11]  Well, you can't say seven at all.
[02:54:13]  Not seven and a half.
[02:54:14]  Yeah, so you're gonna have to either go.
[02:54:16]  Okay, can I just say six and a half then?
[02:54:18]  Sure.
[02:54:19]  Okay.
[02:54:19]  Okay.
[02:54:20]  Do you not agree to that?
[02:54:21]  Yeah.
[02:54:21]  Base five, body, probably five, and then overall five.
[02:54:26]  Okay, Riley.
[02:54:27]  Well, my acne tanks me.
[02:54:29]  I would say, I can't say seven, so eight, eight, eight.
[02:54:32]  All right.
[02:54:32]  And I get myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5.
[02:54:35]  All right.
[02:54:36]  Wow, no tens at the table.
[02:54:38]  That is a rare treat, I guess.
[02:54:40]  We don't want to open up ourselves to any more controversy.
[02:54:43]  Oh, so okay, we do have some tens then, maybe, at the table.
[02:54:47]  All right.
[02:54:48]  I mean, I do think there were some overratings, admittedly.
[02:54:52]  I'm not going to lie.
[02:54:54]  Although, I usually don't.
[02:54:56]  Can you rate us?
[02:54:57]  I can do that.
[02:54:57]  Okay, I'm sure I can do it.
[02:55:00]  But yeah, usually I'm going to kind of pick on somebody who gives themself a 10 or a 9 or something.
[02:55:04]  I mean, there was a couple overratings.
[02:55:10]  I'll rate you guys super quick, but we're not going to actually linger on this topic quite as long as we normally do.
[02:55:15]  Okay, so let's see here.
[02:55:20]  I should repeat your ratings.
[02:55:22]  You gave yourself 6.5?
[02:55:26]  You got to just let your eyebrows just go natural, I think.
[02:55:31]  We've talked about that before.
[02:55:33]  And I did a little bit.
[02:55:34]  We've talked about that.
[02:55:35]  We talked about that before.
[02:55:36]  I did more.
[02:55:37]  Just let them go.
[02:55:38]  Just let them...
[02:55:39]  Okay.
[02:55:41]  When you wax, it kills a hair follicle stir thing.
[02:55:45]  I stopped waxing.
[02:55:46]  Okay, but 6.5.
[02:55:48]  You gave yourself 6.5.
[02:55:49]  You're wearing full face of makeup, foundation, contouring, powder, eyeliner, mascara.
[02:55:55]  Do you have fake lashes?
[02:55:57]  I put on like one little cluster on the edge, but mostly not.
[02:56:00]  Are you wearing hair extensions?
[02:56:01]  No, this is my real hair.
[02:56:02]  Okay.
[02:56:03]  You gave yourself 6.5.
[02:56:05]  I think I'd put you like 5.56.
[02:56:09]  Okay.
[02:56:10]  You gave yourself a 6.
[02:56:14]  I'd put you at a 4 to 4.5.
[02:56:20]  You gave yourself a 6.
[02:56:22]  You've got full anime girl makeup.
[02:56:28]  What's that?
[02:56:29]  What's the term for it?
[02:56:33]  There's a specific term for that kind of, it's like Japanese style.
[02:56:38]  Yeah, I am part Japanese.
[02:56:39]  I feel like anime was right.
[02:56:40]  You used anime.
[02:56:41]  Gayaru, I think it might be that.
[02:56:45]  You're part half Japanese?
[02:56:46]  Yeah, mine's more Jiraike, though.
[02:56:48]  A little closer to the mic.
[02:56:49]  Mine's more Jiraike.
[02:56:52]  Jirai.
[02:56:53]  I have no idea what that is, but I'll take your word for it.
[02:56:55]  So yeah, you've got the fake lashes, quite a bit of makeup.
[02:56:58]  It is hard to do assessments when the makeup is so robust.
[02:57:02]  You gave yourself a six.
[02:57:05]  And I'm also giving someone the assessment, like I'm envisioning without the makeup.
[02:57:11]  I think you'd be closer to like 4.755.
[02:57:16]  You gave yourself a 4.5.
[02:57:22]  I actually think that's pretty accurate.
[02:57:25]  You got to lose the septum piercing, though.
[02:57:28]  And you should flipped it up.
[02:57:29]  I think you got to...
[02:57:32]  You're conservative, right?
[02:57:34]  I mean, you're moderate.
[02:57:35]  You're moderate.
[02:57:36]  Okay.
[02:57:36]  What's with the short hair?
[02:57:37]  I'm just curious.
[02:57:38]  Well, it's a funny story.
[02:57:40]  My current boyfriend had cancer, and I dressed up for him for Halloween, and I went like all the way.
[02:57:50]  So I shaved my hair off.
[02:57:51]  I bought him a wig, or he might have bought himself a wig, but he dressed as me.
[02:57:55]  I dressed as him.
[02:57:56]  It was awesome.
[02:57:57]  That's so sweet.
[02:57:58]  I think that's sweet, admirable that you did that.
[02:58:01]  That's a door.
[02:58:01]  I'm going to cry.
[02:58:03]  Brian can't even hate on that.
[02:58:05]  Well, yeah, I mean, of course, you know, this is the things people do.
[02:58:10]  If a friend or family member or boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever has cancer in like a show of solidarity, you will shave your head to support.
[02:58:19]  But it does typically, at least for assessments of female attractiveness, shorter hair typically does have an impact on the assessment of attractiveness.
[02:58:29]  But I think grow the hair out, lose the septum piercing.
[02:58:31]  Yeah, I miss my long hair all the time.
[02:58:33]  Yeah, but so yeah, you gave yourself 4.5.
[02:58:37]  I think you're fairly spot on there.
[02:58:39]  You gave yourself a 5, is that correct?
[02:58:42]  Fair bit of eye shadow there.
[02:58:46]  Full face of makeup.
[02:58:48]  I think I'd give you between a 4, 4.5.
[02:58:52]  You gave yourself a 5.5 for face.
[02:59:01]  I think, yeah, 5, 5.5.
[02:59:03]  I think you're fairly spot on.
[02:59:05]  You gave yourself an 8 there.
[02:59:08]  I think you did overrate yourself.
[02:59:11]  I'd probably give you, I want to say between a 4 and a 5.
[02:59:19]  You gave yourself an 8.
[02:59:21]  You are wearing quite a bit of makeup, although underneath the makeup there are some strong aesthetic components there.
[02:59:29]  I do think you did slightly overrate yourself, but I would say, I think I'd give you, it is hard with the makeup.
[02:59:39]  I think I'd give you maybe like a 6.
[02:59:43]  6.
[02:59:45]  You gave yourself a 4?
[02:59:47]  Is that correct?
[02:59:48]  6.
[02:59:49]  Oh, wait.
[02:59:50]  I must have rate.
[02:59:51]  You're very strict, Brian.
[02:59:53]  I think you undercut yourself too.
[02:59:55]  I think you undercut yourself.
[02:59:56]  No, Brian, then.
[02:59:58]  I can give the explanation.
[02:59:59]  Hold on, just to be clear.
[03:00:00]  So some people think seven is average.
[03:00:03]  Like they're doing it off of like a grade, you know, like a C. You'd be like a C is an average grade or whatever, and that would make you, I don't know, in this, the, if you, what, what is a C?
[03:00:15]  Like you, out of a hundred points, you get between 70 and 70 to 80, and people think that's average grade or whatever.
[03:00:22]  No.
[03:00:22]  Five is average.
[03:00:24]  So if you're five, that's average looking.
[03:00:28]  Okay, so you gave yourself a six, you said.
[03:00:30]  I think I'd put you closer to a four.
[03:00:34]  You gave yourself a was it 7.5?
[03:00:37]  No, 6.5.
[03:00:38]  Oh, 6, 6.
[03:00:39]  I changed it, yeah.
[03:00:40]  6.5.
[03:00:40]  I'd put you closer to 4.55.
[03:00:44]  Angelica, you gave yourself a 5.
[03:00:46]  I actually think, Angelica, you may have slightly underrated yourself.
[03:00:53]  I think I'd put you face-wise.
[03:00:55]  These are all face ratings, by the way.
[03:00:57]  I'm not rating body or total.
[03:00:59]  I think Angelica I'd put you closer to 5.5.
[03:01:02]  Riley, what did you give yourself?
[03:01:04]  888.
[03:01:04]  888?
[03:01:06]  I don't rate dudes.
[03:01:09]  I'm a pass-on.
[03:01:10]  I mean, I could rate a dude.
[03:01:11]  You want me to rate you, Riley?
[03:01:12]  What if we rate him?
[03:01:13]  Can we write him?
[03:01:15]  Yeah.
[03:01:15]  We could do a little bit more game here.
[03:01:18]  Sure, why not?
[03:01:19]  Like a five.
[03:01:21]  You got to switch the camera angles.
[03:01:22]  Go ahead.
[03:01:23]  Like a five.
[03:01:25]  Okay.
[03:01:26]  Not my tie, but probably like a four.
[03:01:31]  Five.
[03:01:34]  Yeah, five sounds about right.
[03:01:36]  Six.
[03:01:37]  I would say six, but I think you're going to get more handsome with age.
[03:01:40]  I think you're kind of in a geeky phase right now.
[03:01:42]  Since you're very young, like I'm 30 and I kind of look at you like a little kid.
[03:01:46]  Get some facial hair.
[03:01:47]  Yeah, like I think by the time you're my age, you're going to be a knockout.
[03:01:51]  Yeah.
[03:01:51]  Yeah.
[03:01:52]  I agree.
[03:01:54]  After you saying that, I was going to say 4.55.
[03:01:57]  Yeah, so five.
[03:01:59]  I hate this game, but I think you're super handsome.
[03:02:01]  I would give you an eight.
[03:02:02]  I think you have pretty eyes, so I'll give you an eight.
[03:02:06]  Awesome.
[03:02:06]  Yeah, I would say like a wait, we can't do sevens with the giving the rating or what?
[03:02:10]  What's the rate?
[03:02:11]  Sure, if you want to do it.
[03:02:12]  I would say like a seven or eight.
[03:02:13]  And I agree.
[03:02:13]  I think with time, like when you age and stuff, you're going to be.
[03:02:16]  Angelica.
[03:02:17]  I would agree with the ladies.
[03:02:22]  You're going to be more men get sexier with age.
[03:02:25]  Oh, probably like right now.
[03:02:28]  I'm not going to lie, like a four.
[03:02:29]  You look a little bit like a boy.
[03:02:31]  Yeah.
[03:02:32]  So what does that act?
[03:02:33]  Well, yeah, but you have to, hold on.
[03:02:35]  So obviously Riley's 21, but you'd have to factor in like, yeah, some of you are older.
[03:02:40]  So you're going to, your natural inclination is to be attracted to men around your age or older men.
[03:02:47]  But you have to rate the aesthetics on their own, like on their own, not just your own necessarily personal preferences.
[03:02:54]  In this case, Riley has pretty strong facial aesthetics.
[03:02:58]  Maybe his only weak, well, one of his weaknesses, skin clarity, buddy already talked about that.
[03:03:03]  But I mean, absent the skin clarity, there's a baseline of strong facial aesthetics, strong brows, strong eyes, strong hair, strong facial symmetry.
[03:03:14]  Perhaps the lower third is on the weaker side.
[03:03:17]  But otherwise, I think we give Riley, we got to give Riley here.
[03:03:21]  You got, first of all, some of you who rated him low, he mogs the shit out of me.
[03:03:27]  Like, honestly, Riley kind of fucking mogs, I think everybody here.
[03:03:32]  I was going to say that.
[03:03:32]  That's a little gay.
[03:03:33]  How would that be gay?
[03:03:35]  Really gay.
[03:03:36]  Oh, he's so much better looking than all you women.
[03:03:38]  He's like, really women are beautiful.
[03:03:40]  Oh, my God.
[03:03:41]  Look at his strong future.
[03:03:42]  I actually agree.
[03:03:43]  It's a four.
[03:03:43]  If I were to see, yeah, I think men have assessments of other men, and it's not a homosexual thing.
[03:03:50]  It's just like, oh, okay, this guy fits into.
[03:03:54]  Yeah, yeah, this guy fits into like the determination.
[03:03:57]  It's a looks-maxing PSL.
[03:03:59]  Well, it's not even looks maxing.
[03:04:00]  It's just like, okay, how can I, as a man, come to a determination that Brad Pitt, when he was young, is better looking than like Jonah Hill?
[03:04:08]  Like, that doesn't make me homosexual.
[03:04:09]  I'm not saying you're actually homosexual.
[03:04:10]  No, I know, but what are you fucking doing?
[03:04:13]  What?
[03:04:14]  Why are you...
[03:04:17]  Bro, you got fucking butterfingers over there.
[03:04:19]  That's like the second time you fucking slipped at least that I saw it.
[03:04:23]  God damn.
[03:04:24]  Okay.
[03:04:26]  So.
[03:04:26]  I'm the only guy.
[03:04:27]  Can I go around?
[03:04:28]  You want to rate them?
[03:04:29]  Yeah, sure.
[03:04:30]  Yeah, we could.
[03:04:32]  I feel like you guys have confidence issues.

=== Subjective Beauty Curves (02:22) ===

[03:04:34]  So, I mean, you might be surprised, but I would say, I'm just going to go quick to not make up, to take up too much time, but I would say eight, six, no, no, eight, four, five with three, five, seven, three, nine, five, five, eight.
[03:04:54]  Oh, you're too generous, right?
[03:04:56]  Bro, okay, like, you said five is the average, though.
[03:04:59]  And, like, here's the thing: we're not talking about the average girl that you see in Santa Monica Beach, right?
[03:05:03]  We're talking about the average girl in at least America, right?
[03:05:05]  Like, I'm just saying, like, well, yeah, it depends.
[03:05:09]  Come on.
[03:05:10]  It does depend a bit about what you mean on average, for example.
[03:05:14]  I feel like the best way to do it is like, if you're a nine, then you're in the top 10 percentile.
[03:05:18]  That'd be like the best.
[03:05:19]  No, not quite.
[03:05:20]  No, it's like exponentially.
[03:05:23]  The distribution would be different.
[03:05:24]  So it wouldn't pretty much be different.
[03:05:25]  It's more strict.
[03:05:26]  Yeah, the distribution wouldn't be different.
[03:05:28]  So, for example, you wouldn't see 10% of women would be nines, 10%.
[03:05:32]  It wouldn't quite work like that.
[03:05:34]  You'd see, like, for example, it wouldn't be like 10% nine, skipping down a bit, like 10% six, 10% five, 10%, 4, 10%, 1s.
[03:05:44]  Like, somebody to be a 1, you almost never see a 10, and then you almost, or like a 9, because there are no 10s.
[03:05:52]  And it's very rare to see somebody.
[03:05:54]  Oh, it's a bell curve.
[03:05:55]  It's very rare to see somebody who's like shockingly ugly.
[03:05:59]  Yeah, so it's about curve.
[03:06:00]  It's like basically your, like, really.
[03:06:04]  Like, we're locked.
[03:06:05]  Someone has to go.
[03:06:07]  You're going to see like 50% of people fall into five.
[03:06:10]  Okay, okay, so a bell curve.
[03:06:11]  A bell curve.
[03:06:12]  Yeah.
[03:06:12]  Yeah.
[03:06:13]  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
[03:06:14]  And I do notice on those My 600 pound lives, for some reason, those women always have men available and ready to wipe their, you know, what?
[03:06:21]  Anyways.
[03:06:22]  I mean, beauty, so beauty, in the strictest philosophical sense, it is subjective, but in terms of assessments of beauty, there are objective measurements that contribute to the subjective assessment of beauty.
[03:06:38]  So just certain characteristics, like objective measurements.
[03:06:41]  And it is also the case that, for example, I think it is objectively the case that, say, a majority of people would find agreement on which people are the most attractive.
[03:06:54]  There would be objectivity there.

=== Thomas Sowell On Race (05:54) ===

[03:06:56]  I have a theory on why women sometimes struggle to answer this question accurately.
[03:07:03]  I think women specifically, we have a tendency to gauge attraction on like personality and other attributes.
[03:07:12]  Do they, though?
[03:07:14]  I think in person, I think dating apps do men a disservice in that regard because dating apps in particular, I think men tend to be more initially attracted visually.
[03:07:28]  And I think dating apps kind of force women into that paradigm when like women are often attracted to status and stuff like that that aren't purely physical characteristics.
[03:07:38]  I mean, obviously, physical attraction is still important, but I think like when I think about how, you know, me and other women I know gauge attraction, and if they like a guy, it's often an amalgamation of characteristics that are not just purely physical.
[03:07:54]  And I think women, when they're asked this question, they have a hard time isolating just the physical attractiveness because we tend to view qualities in a network versus being able to isolate like a train of thought in a particular category.
[03:08:08]  That's a good idea.
[03:08:09]  Yeah, I like that.
[03:08:10]  I tend to agree with that.
[03:08:12]  We have TTS here from The Unknown Soldier.
[03:08:14]  The unknown soldier numbers.
[03:08:17]  First overall, you don't get the call back.
[03:08:19]  No, I know it's from the poetry reading brain.
[03:08:22]  I know.
[03:08:23]  Also, you get 200 characters per TTS.
[03:08:27]  Numbers start getting really long.
[03:08:29]  Now do the math.
[03:08:30]  I know it tickles your autism.
[03:08:33]  Oh, boy.
[03:08:34]  Yeah, actually, speaking of, I need to do another champagne pop.
[03:08:37]  I was going to say another shot.
[03:08:38]  I do.
[03:08:39]  We do have to get the champagne pop from the previous.
[03:08:43]  Who paid for that again?
[03:08:45]  What's that?
[03:08:46]  Who paid for the campaign?
[03:08:46]  I mean, not the campaign.
[03:08:48]  Oh, Riley hasn't even been drinking.
[03:08:51]  He's already shattering his words.
[03:08:53]  My screenplay goes like this.
[03:08:56]  Oh.
[03:08:57]  Oh, well, thank you, Gloctavius.
[03:09:00]  That's beautiful.
[03:09:02]  I love that.
[03:09:02]  It's like a black person's laugh.
[03:09:04]  Wait, what is this?
[03:09:06]  That's a black person's laugh.
[03:09:08]  Wait, what do you mean that's a black person?
[03:09:11]  Riley, I've noticed.
[03:09:12]  What is this?
[03:09:13]  I know.
[03:09:14]  Riley, I've noticed, Riley.
[03:09:16]  Do you have a way, Riley?
[03:09:18]  I've noticed a couple comments you've made about black people.
[03:09:22]  And what's going on there, Riley?
[03:09:25]  I mean, I'm just stating facts at this point.
[03:09:27]  There's a bit of a hyperfixation, I would say.
[03:09:30]  It is.
[03:09:30]  It does seem a little.
[03:09:32]  A little rage baiting.
[03:09:34]  There's also a lot of middle rage baiting.
[03:09:36]  Whoa, a lot of problems.
[03:09:39]  Hold on.
[03:09:39]  I don't agree.
[03:09:40]  Wait, do you want to clarify what you mean?
[03:09:42]  Like, there's a problem?
[03:09:43]  No, but you're not going to say them.
[03:09:45]  You're not saying black people.
[03:09:48]  They make a lot of problems.
[03:09:50]  Wait, well, hold on.
[03:09:50]  Yeah.
[03:09:51]  With high crime rates, high rape rates?
[03:09:53]  Well, I'll.
[03:09:54]  But are you saying black people are a problem?
[03:09:56]  No.
[03:09:56]  Because I disavow that entirely.
[03:09:57]  Completely disavow.
[03:09:58]  But they create a lot of problems more than the average American does.
[03:10:02]  So it's no longer the problem.
[03:10:03]  There's the American.
[03:10:07]  I mean, look, if you're looking at crime statistics, there may be overrepresentation.
[03:10:12]  But I think you could adjust your messaging so as it to not land in such an abrasive, because I think but I never said the words black people are a problem.
[03:10:20]  I just said there's a big problem in the United States.
[03:10:22]  It's a lot of people not the right hand.
[03:10:25]  In a hundred times I have hoped to get the black optics so that they'll rise pink's.
[03:10:31]  So terrible, I understand, though he was obviously dumped by the black like I think it's okay to be like.
[03:10:37]  Okay, there's like uh, disproportionate crime statistics.
[03:10:45]  No no, she's half white, half Asian.
[03:10:47]  She's the author.
[03:10:50]  You should read some Thomas Sowell if he has.
[03:10:52]  Oh, I love, do you have black friends?
[03:10:54]  Thomas Sowell's awesome.
[03:10:55]  Um no no, that makes a lot of sense.
[03:10:58]  Yeah, my city's 1% black, but like, just because he's honest, I mean, has there been like, do you have uh racial animus towards black people?
[03:11:09]  Define that word animus like a sort of negative sentiment towards, or like racial hatred or anything.
[03:11:16]  Okay, just wanted to clarify that.
[03:11:18]  Um no, I just like talking about statistics and stuff, but I was just bringing up the laugh thing because that's, but that's been a meme for like a long time.
[03:11:24]  That's how black people laugh really.
[03:11:25]  That's yeah like a window.
[03:11:27]  How would you know you don't have black friends?
[03:11:29]  I've heard black people laugh.
[03:11:30]  Where'd you sound?
[03:11:31]  Like a Windex bottle?
[03:11:32]  Where did you hear them all over the internet, Riley?
[03:11:35]  I heard them all over the internet laughing.
[03:11:38]  We need to split him in, hand up black people laughing and that's what you heard.
[03:11:42]  The next time Riley brings up black people, we're gonna put him where Hannah is.
[03:11:45]  Can we make that a rule?
[03:11:46]  You're just gonna sit him next to me.
[03:11:49]  Yeah okay, you know what.
[03:11:51]  Actually, speaking of who gets the jar, I think you should at least pay some reparations to the two women here, just for some of your comments tonight.
[03:11:58]  To be honest yeah, just come, I don't have cash on me, I don't have.
[03:12:00]  It'd be fun joining cash out.
[03:12:07]  I mean, how much?
[03:12:08]  Were you thinking like 250 250 yeah, what's three fifths of that?
[03:12:12]  Could we do it?
[03:12:13]  Could we get a calculator?
[03:12:14]  Oh my god, can we get a screenshot of this transaction?
[03:12:17]  You're crazy right, you're crazy.
[03:12:18]  That's crazy, all right.
[03:12:19]  So uh here, next topic.
[03:12:21]  Next topic, the looks rating.
[03:12:22]  Do we?
[03:12:23]  Is there anything left we have to do for the looks rating?
[03:12:25]  I don't think.
[03:12:25]  So wait, what can I ask why you asked that question?
[03:12:28]  Uh genuinely, what question, well, how about, before I answer your question, you tell, because you my impression is, you have an objection to the, the question, the an objection to rating people's looks.
[03:12:40]  Why don't you explain that first?
[03:12:43]  I really I I totally understand what you're saying and I think that is why it's a hard question.
[03:12:47]  I really think personality is absolutely crucial to somebody's rating.

=== Toupees And Makeup (15:29) ===

[03:12:51]  You could see the most gorgeous human.
[03:12:53]  If she is stuck up snobby, like degrading, I just think it takes away from her.
[03:12:58]  Or vice versa, like you can see a guy that is not very attractive, he could be so kind hilarious, a good provider.
[03:13:03]  He instantly is higher up in my book.
[03:13:06]  Yep, that's why I feel like it's like it's kind of like they are coexistent.
[03:13:11]  So yeah, but what you're doing there is this sort of tricky thing where you're adding qualifiers That may not necessarily exist.
[03:13:18]  So, you would agree with me that an attractive, like, are all attractive people pieces of shit?
[03:13:24]  No, I'm not saying that.
[03:13:25]  Right, so there are some good-looking people who also possess positive characteristics.
[03:13:29]  I agree.
[03:13:30]  Now, are those physically attractive people who also possess those good characteristics, are they going to out-compete their less attractive counterparts who also possess an commensurate level of positive characteristics?
[03:13:43]  Are they going to out-compete them?
[03:13:44]  Are they going to have better options?
[03:13:46]  Are they going to have typically better life outcomes?
[03:13:48]  Are they going to be treated better?
[03:13:50]  If they're.
[03:13:51]  Sorry, if they're not.
[03:13:51]  Okay, so pretty.
[03:13:52]  I'm essentially trying to get to pretty privilege.
[03:13:55]  We see this not just when it comes to dating and relationships, but being attractive also confers benefits in life as a whole.
[03:14:02]  Yeah, I agree.
[03:14:02]  But you don't have to be a bit more attractive.
[03:14:03]  In work, you're going to be assessed better.
[03:14:07]  Even in like criminal cases, if you're good-looking, you're more empathy, I guess, empathetic to the jury.
[03:14:15]  And they've done studies on this.
[03:14:17]  Like, better-looking people tend to get less harsh prison sentences.
[03:14:22]  Women who wear makeup get paid 30% more FYI.
[03:14:25]  Well, I think we should ban makeup, to be honest.
[03:14:29]  We should criminalize it.
[03:14:30]  Why?
[03:14:31]  It's a crime against humanity.
[03:14:34]  What if you're fixed up in a dress and like a little makeup and nails on it?
[03:14:38]  It doesn't look right.
[03:14:39]  Yeah, so while beards can alter your appearance, beards are not not artificial.
[03:14:47]  Makeup is completely offshore.
[03:14:49]  Shape it is artificial.
[03:14:51]  Well, hold on.
[03:14:51]  Now we're getting into styling.
[03:14:52]  That's different than like.
[03:14:53]  The same thing as makeup.
[03:14:54]  That is the same.
[03:14:55]  Well, I actually would argue.
[03:14:58]  If you do a comb over and you're balding.
[03:15:00]  If you do a mustache.
[03:15:01]  Yeah, beards are not.
[03:15:03]  Beards are not the same as makeup.
[03:15:06]  I would argue that with beards, they're a reflection of a man's testosterone.
[03:15:09]  So if he can grow a beard, then that's reflective of good genes.
[03:15:12]  With makeup, it hides genes.
[03:15:14]  And I think that although sometimes makeup can be done if you do it under 15 minutes, as Brittany Venti says, it looks good.
[03:15:20]  But if you take much longer to distort your face, that's very deceptive and manipulative towards anyone who's dating you.
[03:15:26]  And I personally, if I was a man, I would feel a little bit bamboozled.
[03:15:29]  Like, I would feel like I can't trust this person.
[03:15:31]  True.
[03:15:32]  Brian, would you date someone very?
[03:15:33]  Does it because someone uses makeup?
[03:15:35]  What happened?
[03:15:35]  Just because someone used to make sure that you would not trust them.
[03:15:38]  Not just because they use makeup.
[03:15:40]  If you've seen it, the Asians are actually the perfect ones at this.
[03:15:43]  They change their face to a point where there's lawsuits going on over there.
[03:15:46]  Who?
[03:15:47]  Asians, like Koreans and Japanese women.
[03:15:49]  There's like entire genres.
[03:15:50]  I do want to be, for the sake of factuality, I'm familiar with what you're talking about.
[03:15:56]  I do believe there was a hoax related to this.
[03:15:58]  Now, I do agree that some of these makeups, some of these makeup applications are so, the change is so significant.
[03:16:07]  But there was a story where like a woman had, maybe it was plastic surgery, she had makeup, and then she was actually super ugly, and then she had kids, and the husband like sued the wife or whatever.
[03:16:17]  I don't know if you're alluding to that.
[03:16:19]  No, there's a legal system within those countries in Thailand, too.
[03:16:23]  So then you're against Cosplay.
[03:16:25]  No, because Cosplay isn't like displaying.
[03:16:27]  Yeah, by the way, beards are also genetics.
[03:16:31]  I was just going to ask, if a girl in the context of dating, like she wears makeup, she makes it clear she's wearing makeup so you don't think, oh, this is actually how she looks.
[03:16:38]  She shows you what she looks like without wearing makeup.
[03:16:40]  So you already know like her pure natural face.
[03:16:42]  Is she still being deceptive and manipulative to you?
[03:16:45]  Sorry, could you repeat the question?
[03:16:46]  I was reading something here.
[03:16:47]  My bad.
[03:16:47]  I said if a girl in the context of dating, she wears makeup, she lets it be known to you that she is wearing makeup.
[03:16:53]  So you don't think, oh, like this is actually how she looks.
[03:16:55]  She shows you what she looks like without makeup, so you have that information clear as well.
[03:16:59]  Is she still being deceptive and manipulative?
[03:17:01]  Yes, actually, to a degree.
[03:17:02]  Now, first off, most women are not like on.
[03:17:05]  Well, we could apply this to dating apps, for example.
[03:17:07]  Oftentimes on dating apps, and they employ filters too, which is another level of deception.
[03:17:13]  A lot of times on dating apps, women will not, for example, include a photo of them without makeup.
[03:17:19]  Even in that context where they have the ability to do it, and perhaps where they should, they won't include a photo of them completely barefaced.
[03:17:27]  Your scenario is completely hypothetical.
[03:17:29]  I've never had a woman show up on a date with a face of makeup and be and like volunteer, hey, Brian, here's a photo of me without makeup, just so you know what you're getting into.
[03:17:40]  Women don't really do that.
[03:17:42]  So from a practical perspective, no.
[03:17:46]  But I think the difference is, and also you would agree with me that even if a woman doesn't disclose that she's wearing makeup or doesn't show me a photo of her without makeup, that I could just on my own, like I'm looking at you, you're wearing makeup.
[03:17:59]  I can tell that you're wearing makeup.
[03:18:01]  Right.
[03:18:01]  I think the issue here is that even though I'm aware that you're married, that you're wearing makeup, the increase in assessment, the increase in the assessment of your attractiveness is not diminished by simple virtue of my awareness or consciousness or knowledge that you are wearing makeup.
[03:18:25]  It's your perceived attractiveness is still the same.
[03:18:30]  So even with disclosure.
[03:18:32]  Do you think that applies to you or to everyone?
[03:18:34]  I'm just curious.
[03:18:36]  I think it would.
[03:18:37]  Because a lot of guys actually don't really care if a girl's wearing makeup.
[03:18:41]  Most people are also.
[03:18:42]  What do you mean guys don't care that women are wearing makeup?
[03:18:45]  I would just say there's like a lot of guys like I've come across that find me attractive, just like despite.
[03:18:52]  So yes, it can be.
[03:18:53]  For example, like my, like my roommate she wears makeup, right.
[03:18:55]  Um, like her guy has like told her like oh, you're beautiful either way, you don't need it.
[03:18:59]  But like oh, your makeup looks really good, like he likes that.
[03:19:03]  Uh so yeah, I mean, a man can still be attracted to a woman with makeup and then without makeup, or just like he doesn't care about the fact she wears makeup.
[03:19:12]  It's like okay, you let me cool.
[03:19:13]  A lot of guys don't.
[03:19:14]  Actually, there's not a.
[03:19:15]  I'm not denying that a man can remain attracted to a woman uh, even without her makeup.
[03:19:21]  He could still.
[03:19:22]  Even if he had never seen her with makeup, he would have still found her attractive.
[03:19:26]  I guess that's not really what i'm getting at, but you would agree well, maybe you wouldn't that there is a component of well one, I guess.
[03:19:34]  Why would you wear it if it didn't have a palpable increase in your perceived attractiveness?
[03:19:40]  Why would women?
[03:19:41]  If it didn't actually make women look better, why the fuck would they wear it?
[03:19:46]  It does make them look better okay, so they're.
[03:19:49]  That's not how they actually look, though you'd agree with that.
[03:19:53]  They don't look like that naturally correct if they're okay.
[03:19:57]  So deceptive to a degree, is it?
[03:20:00]  I think to say deceptive means like you're, like you're lying and you're not being honest and you're hiding something.
[03:20:04]  I could sit here and say, I look different without makeup.
[03:20:07]  This is how I look with makeup.
[03:20:08]  This is how I look without makeup.
[03:20:10]  If you're covering something up, you kind of are hiding it, though.
[03:20:12]  So the literature thing, are you watching wearing clothes because you're covering up your body?
[03:20:15]  Like what's going on?
[03:20:16]  Like no, what kind of a trans person you are.
[03:20:18]  Can I ask Brian a question?
[03:20:20]  Brian, are you attracted to a woman who has hairy legs and hairy armpits?
[03:20:24]  Because you earlier you said that hair.
[03:20:26]  This is a false equivalent.
[03:20:27]  It's not because you said hair is natural and your beard is natural and so it doesn't change anything.
[03:20:32]  Well, armpit hair is natural to women and so is hairy legs.
[03:20:34]  Yeah, grooming.
[03:20:36]  So grooming is grooming is a beard.
[03:20:39]  Yeah, grooming is different than uh, an artificial application of uh paint, essentially.
[03:20:45]  So it's a false equivalent.
[03:20:46]  Uh, it's a false equivalence.
[03:20:48]  But I mean i'll answer your question.
[03:20:50]  Yeah, I do prefer women who are shaved, who don't have hairy armpits, who don't have hairy legs and just generally, I think I.
[03:20:56]  I mean I would state that men generally prefer women who have less hair than more hair, like if we're talking about body feminine.
[03:21:03]  So you do like some altercations or an altercation, Yeah, but that's it's not it's a false equivalent, so my argument is not about making alterations.
[03:21:15]  Obviously, people make alterations.
[03:21:16]  My argument specifically relates to the implementation of makeup.
[03:21:23]  Hold on, Robert Tanner, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships, man.
[03:21:25]  Appreciate it.
[03:21:27]  Thank you, man.
[03:21:27]  W's and Chef for Robert Tanner.
[03:21:29]  We're going to still pop the champagne bottle.
[03:21:30]  I haven't forgotten.
[03:21:33]  Yeah, so, sorry, could you repeat your question?
[03:21:36]  Just do you find women with natural armpit hair and hairy legs?
[03:21:41]  No, I prefer women who shave their legs and who groom and who don't have armpit hair.
[03:21:49]  Okay, I wouldn't say that.
[03:21:49]  I don't think these two.
[03:21:51]  Well, hold on, but these two things, I don't think these two positions are contradictory.
[03:21:55]  So you can have an objection, or maybe not an objection, but you can have a preference towards body hair grooming, but also find an objection to makeup usage or excessive makeup usage.
[03:22:07]  I would also argue that when it comes to the makeup industry, it's predominantly like women and gay men.
[03:22:11]  Like straight men are not interested in the makeup industry whatsoever.
[03:22:15]  So it's like natural that they're not going to appreciate that in a dating context.
[03:22:17]  They would rather have the more honest, raw-looking you because that's what they're interested in knowing unless they have ulterior motives for you, then they don't care.
[03:22:26]  Most men I find actually prefer no makeup.
[03:22:30]  Yeah.
[03:22:31]  And I prefer on this day I don't wear makeup.
[03:22:34]  Also, I wanted to ask every day.
[03:22:35]  If a five out of ten wears makeup, is she still truly a five out of ten?
[03:22:38]  Yes.
[03:22:40]  I think makeup can also make you look not good.
[03:22:42]  But I wanted to ask her: if a five out of ten woman wears makeup, is she still truly a five out of ten?
[03:22:48]  Like, okay, so is she a five out of ten without makeup?
[03:22:51]  No, but like if she wears makeup, she's still truly a five out of ten, right?
[03:22:55]  I just give her the same rating, honestly.
[03:22:57]  Like a five out of ten?
[03:22:58]  Yeah.
[03:22:59]  But a chick with a dick is not a guy.
[03:23:01]  What are we talking about right now?
[03:23:02]  Like what's the subject?
[03:23:03]  So you're saying a five out of ten who wears makeup, yeah, they're still a five out of ten.
[03:23:07]  But then a chick with the dick, they're awesome.
[03:23:10]  Well, if she wears makeup, actually, I would, I'll take what I said back.
[03:23:12]  If she wears makeup, then maybe it makes her look more attractive.
[03:23:15]  But is she still truly a five out of ten?
[03:23:17]  Like deep down inside.
[03:23:19]  I would just average the two ratings.
[03:23:20]  She might average the two ratings.
[03:23:21]  But I mean, like, truly, though.
[03:23:22]  We mean deep down inside.
[03:23:23]  We're talking about looks.
[03:23:24]  Like, we.
[03:23:25]  Okay, okay, okay, okay.
[03:23:26]  But beneath the makeup, she's still a five out of ten, right?
[03:23:29]  If we're talking naturally, she's a five out of ten with the makeup.
[03:23:32]  She's like, again, when it comes to aesthetics, I think like the way I would rate aesthetics has to also do with like how you choose to present yourself and like how you choose to dress, like how you choose to style yourself, carry yourself, all that.
[03:23:42]  And that's not personality.
[03:23:43]  Okay.
[03:23:44]  I think you got to be crazy good at makeup to truly alter your appearance.
[03:23:48]  A lot of people.
[03:23:50]  Except for like skin clarity, like with just the general foundation, that's like the only thing you can really change without being crazy good at makeup.
[03:23:59]  I mean, even contouring, you can tell their face shape if you just look at them.
[03:24:04]  It's only like by the glance of the eye, like a quick second that it alters your appearance truly.
[03:24:09]  So even if you're aware that a woman's wearing makeup, it's still like the impact it has is to some degree on like your first knee-jerk impression reaction.
[03:24:20]  It is still going to have like this sort of subconscious impact on your level of attraction to them.
[03:24:28]  So even if you're aware, like it's still.
[03:24:33]  Do you mean whether it's positive or negative?
[03:24:36]  So if a guy's wearing really good toupee attraction is that manipulative if a guy's wearing a really good toupee that's manipulative.
[03:24:46]  Yeah.
[03:24:47]  So I mean.
[03:24:48]  And he once had hair and then he fully balded and he got a really, really good toupee.
[03:24:52]  That looks completely different.
[03:24:53]  I would say, so I mean, he's, I think a lot of women would prefer a man who had a natural full head of hair than a man who wore a toupee.
[03:25:04]  If women wear makeup and they truly do not care if another woman's wearing makeup, why would they care if a guy wore a toupee?
[03:25:10]  Well, that's the funny thing.
[03:25:11]  People have double standards.
[03:25:13]  I can almost guarantee you that women who regularly employ makeup usage would many of them would probably have some, I don't know if it would be an outright objection, but they would be more attracted to the guy who has a full natural head of hair than the guy who has a toupee.
[03:25:30]  So then you're also implying that makeup isn't a part of social grooming.
[03:25:33]  I would actually argue on this point: if a man has a toupee and it's discovered he has a toupee, you would fundamentally, as a woman, start to question his entire integrity.
[03:25:39]  Same thing if you were to do other modifications.
[03:25:41]  But I know he has toupee.
[03:25:42]  I've seen it.
[03:25:42]  Not if it's good.
[03:25:43]  Like, let's say, for example, he fooled you.
[03:25:45]  He has hair, but you don't have my example.
[03:25:47]  We fully know, just like we fully know that you're wearing makeup.
[03:25:49]  When it comes, wait, lay out your position again.
[03:25:52]  Sorry.
[03:25:53]  We know that we're aware that you're wearing makeup.
[03:25:55]  You've told us we've wearing makeup.
[03:25:56]  We've seen you without wearing makeup.
[03:25:57]  We've seen you without the toupee.
[03:25:58]  So we are fully aware.
[03:25:59]  We're both a grown adults.
[03:26:00]  We know everything that's going on.
[03:26:01]  I mean, that would be a compromising of standards at that point where it's just kind of like, yeah, I'm cool with this, but a lot of people on average would not be cool with dating and violence wearing the toupee.
[03:26:09]  It's just me and you.
[03:26:10]  I mean, correct, yes, but we're talking about like generalizations.
[03:26:13]  We're talking about the average.
[03:26:14]  I personally would not be okay with a guy with a toupee.
[03:26:16]  I'd rather he be bald because it's great.
[03:26:18]  Go bald.
[03:26:19]  Yeah.
[03:26:19]  The wig is a little creepy.
[03:26:21]  Everyone looks better.
[03:26:22]  There are some bald daddies out there.
[03:26:25]  What's that one?
[03:26:25]  The Norland?
[03:26:26]  It's like that balding pattern.
[03:26:28]  Yeah, now I do have.
[03:26:29]  If you're balding, just get rid of all the hair.
[03:26:31]  Just let it go, bro.
[03:26:32]  Whatever makes you happy makes you happy, though.
[03:26:34]  What about this?
[03:26:34]  So let's say that.
[03:26:36]  Let's say that makeup exists on a spectrum, on a scale.
[03:26:39]  Of course, you'll have women who have like they put a bit of eyeliner on, and that's it.
[03:26:44]  Pretty minimal, a bit of mascara on, that's it.
[03:26:46]  Then like you can go a little further all the way to like their fucking putting clay on their face and their full glam.
[03:26:53]  That's a bit further down on the scale.
[03:26:56]  But what about this?
[03:26:57]  I could see in the future that with some like advanced technology like nano robots or something, this could be employed for both men and women.
[03:27:07]  What if there's some like futuristic micro nano robots and like millions or hundreds of thousands of robots that could maneuver on your face and that you could like customize in an app and it would cover your face and it would you could essentially have them fit over your face and it could slightly change your appearance.
[03:27:30]  Maybe you have a bit of a weak jaw, improves it there.
[03:27:32]  Or it could even basically completely change your face or keep some elements of your face but like improve the flaws, maybe your nose, maybe your, you know, whatever it is to make you more attractive.
[03:27:46]  You know, like the Las Vegas sphere, I guess, kind of like that.
[03:27:51]  Let's say it could change a man's face to go from a five to a nine.
[03:27:56]  Would any of you have an issue with that?
[03:27:58]  Yeah.
[03:27:59]  Do you think it would be deceptive?
[03:28:00]  I think the scale of change is way above makeup in your face.
[03:28:03]  But I think that so, but you are you willing to grant that makeup exists on a scale of deception?
[03:28:10]  A scale of change.
[03:28:11]  Again, I still wouldn't use the word deception.
[03:28:13]  But so, okay, what would actually be?
[03:28:14]  But if it's the case, so what you're putting on your face, it's atoms, it's particles.

=== Plastic Surgery Deception (14:22) ===

[03:28:20]  You're putting them on your face to change sometimes the shape, the contouring, change certain features.
[03:28:27]  What would be different between actual just like putting paint on your face and nano robots?
[03:28:32]  Hold on, nano robots that could assemble on your face and give you like stronger jawline.
[03:28:38]  And maybe you're not like a completely different person, but it substantially increases your attractiveness.
[03:28:44]  How could you actually object to it?
[03:28:46]  Right.
[03:28:46]  So you said this changes someone from like a five to a nine.
[03:28:48]  Like it changes your whole shape of your jaw.
[03:28:51]  But again, like someone said earlier, if you still look at someone's jaw with contour on, you can see the face of their shape.
[03:28:56]  But I don't believe makeup is bringing anyone from a five to that medium.
[03:28:59]  So I think makeup can bring a five to a seven, five to an eight.
[03:29:03]  Maybe a nine is a bit of a stretch, but makeup can definitely have makeup can have this impact.
[03:29:11]  Your draw to the woman would either not be nearly as strong if you saw her barefaced, or you might not even be attracted to her, period.
[03:29:20]  To introduce a feminist argument, it's like, why exactly would you be supporting an industry that sells insecurities to women to profit off of those insecurities and sell them cosmetics?
[03:29:28]  Why are you contouring your face?
[03:29:29]  You don't have the right bone structure.
[03:29:30]  Why are you shaping your eyes?
[03:29:31]  It's so enhanced.
[03:29:32]  Because it's fun.
[03:29:32]  It's a warm up.
[03:29:33]  Well, it's not that deep.
[03:29:35]  It's fun to like do makeup out meaning that we then have to cover it up.
[03:29:38]  Sometimes it's just like, oh, I just feel like better.
[03:29:40]  I actually don't want to feel better.
[03:29:43]  Why do you feel insecure?
[03:29:44]  It's fun.
[03:29:45]  If it's fun, it's always about things that are fun.
[03:29:47]  Why exactly are you changing your appearance?
[03:29:49]  I mean, that's fun.
[03:29:50]  That's fun.
[03:29:51]  That's creative.
[03:29:52]  When it comes to making it look natural, and that's fun too.
[03:29:55]  But when it comes to actually making it look natural, there's insecurities there that we're trying to hide.
[03:29:59]  Hence, why people get fake eyelashes.
[03:30:01]  They think that their eyelashes aren't long enough.
[03:30:02]  Why are you spending so much money?
[03:30:04]  Because women spend like hundreds of dollars a month on average on makeup.
[03:30:07]  Why are you spending so much money to cover up insecurities?
[03:30:09]  Why can't you embrace your natural face?
[03:30:11]  Brian is more of a feminist and a woman lover than a lot of the women on this panel.
[03:30:15]  I know.
[03:30:17]  Are you a feminist?
[03:30:19]  A girl is too familiar.
[03:30:20]  I'm a feminist on the labia issue, I guess.
[03:30:23]  A girl can like completely love her natural face and go out with her natural face and the next day choose to put on makeup and still like that sounds like really manipulative language.
[03:30:30]  Why would you change something that you love?
[03:30:32]  Can I change a man that you love?
[03:30:34]  That's like another house because you want to make sure that you get an answer.
[03:30:37]  That doesn't make any sense.
[03:30:38]  You can change lots of things that you love.
[03:30:39]  I did not get an answer on my nano-robot face morph thing.
[03:30:44]  Great question.
[03:30:45]  So would do you guys think that that would be deceptive going around the table?
[03:30:50]  Just yes or yes or no, I guess?
[03:30:51]  Yes.
[03:30:54]  Absolutely.
[03:30:55]  Yes.
[03:30:55]  Yes.
[03:30:56]  I don't think it would be compared to makeup.
[03:30:59]  It's different than makeup, but it's achieving the same.
[03:31:03]  Well, so it's plastic.
[03:31:04]  You said a larger scale of change, declaration.
[03:31:06]  Plastic surgery has nothing to do with makeup.
[03:31:07]  But so, okay, I mean, that, sure, plastic surgery is a different component of this.
[03:31:11]  They can change the murder.
[03:31:12]  But women also regularly employ the usage of plastic surgery to make them more attractive than they otherwise naturally are.
[03:31:18]  Men do.
[03:31:19]  And maybe there's some women here who have show of hands who has lip filler.
[03:31:23]  I've had lip filler in my life.
[03:31:25]  Have you had lip filler?
[03:31:26]  Lip filler?
[03:31:26]  Lip filler?
[03:31:27]  I want it now after you're waiting.
[03:31:30]  LeBron, what are you causing?
[03:31:32]  Insecurities.
[03:31:33]  Well, yeah, but I mean, maybe you've had.
[03:31:35]  Anyone's had Botox?
[03:31:36]  I've had Botox.
[03:31:37]  Botox?
[03:31:38]  Anyone have fake titties?
[03:31:40]  Fake titties?
[03:31:41]  I didn't have titties.
[03:31:43]  Maybe as maybe.
[03:31:43]  Fake lady.
[03:31:44]  I don't know.
[03:31:45]  I think.
[03:31:45]  It's not fake.
[03:31:46]  Yeah.
[03:31:46]  I just trimmed it.
[03:31:48]  I think, you know, like, what would actually be wrong with a guy buying some nano-robots?
[03:31:53]  Just say makeup at that point.
[03:31:55]  Like, you know, like, male makeup exists for like male models or whatever.
[03:31:57]  Like, and actors.
[03:31:58]  What straight man wants to make sure that you're not?
[03:31:59]  Also, that's your prerogative.
[03:32:00]  What straight man wants to do?
[03:32:02]  Why would a man want to alter their appearance?
[03:32:04]  Wait, wait, wait.
[03:32:05]  Here, can you not put your arms on the table?
[03:32:07]  Because you're kind of blocking her out of the way.
[03:32:09]  I just don't understand why a straight man would want to alter their appearance or get plastic surgery.
[03:32:14]  Like, I feel like that's like maybe a gay man thing or an actor type of thing.
[03:32:19]  Like a reason to be on television, you know?
[03:32:21]  Well, you raised two very good points.
[03:32:23]  So, as far as makeup goes, it's not socially acceptable for straight men to wear makeup.
[03:32:30]  Unless you're an actor.
[03:32:32]  Maybe very, very liberal or like alt-punk women might be okay with it, but I'd say for 90% of women, it's not going to be acceptable for their frequently asked everyone.
[03:32:46]  Even liberal.
[03:32:47]  I mean, we could go around the table.
[03:32:49]  Like, is it your, how do we frame it?
[03:32:51]  Like, is it your preference to would you be attracted to a guy who wears makeup?
[03:32:58]  No.
[03:33:01]  Okay.
[03:33:01]  No.
[03:33:02]  Anybody?
[03:33:03]  I don't know any yeses.
[03:33:04]  And then your point on plastic surgery, I would argue that men getting plastic surgery in a similar vein is in terms of assessments from women.
[03:33:15]  While I think a lot of I personally don't like plastic surgery in women, I think it is generally more socially acceptable for women to get plastic surgery.
[03:33:23]  The procedures that are available to them are more socially acceptable.
[03:33:27]  There really isn't much that men can do plastic surgery-wise.
[03:33:33]  I mean, there's some face stuff, but I don't know.
[03:33:36]  So, do you think that's the real issue?
[03:33:38]  It's the fact that men can't do it and it's not socially acceptable.
[03:33:41]  I mean, I'm against plastic surgery, period.
[03:33:44]  So, I mean, my prescription here is not, oh, we should make it socially acceptable for men to get plastic surgery.
[03:33:51]  We should just, well, it's not jealousy.
[03:33:53]  We should just be against plastic surgery across the board for both men and women.
[03:33:59]  I personally think it looks weird no matter which way.
[03:34:02]  What if that's an injury?
[03:34:03]  Surgery was originally made for war victims.
[03:34:06]  Exactly that.
[03:34:06]  You tilt your mic so it's like pointing towards you.
[03:34:09]  There's a difference between the two.
[03:34:10]  So, what was your moment?
[03:34:11]  I was saying, I think no matter which way you do plastic surgery, it looks weird and unnatural.
[03:34:16]  Like, even if you weren't that attractive and then you wanted to fix something about your face, I feel like it almost makes a person look worse.
[03:34:21]  Like, it was originally made for war victims.
[03:34:23]  Like, why are we doing this to ourselves?
[03:34:25]  It just doesn't make sense.
[03:34:27]  It doesn't make sense to me.
[03:34:28]  Yeah, I mean, just to be clear on the plastic surgery thing, of course, people who have actual, you know, either injuries or deformities, I do make some exemptions for plastic surgery where they are more, they're not purely for vain cosmetic reasons.
[03:34:44]  They're like either correcting something or you have like half your face was fucking blown off with a fucking, I don't know, grenade or some shit.
[03:34:53]  But yeah, you are, the origination of plastic surgery was to correct like men who were in war.
[03:34:58]  Yeah, like if women have breast cancer, then maybe I would want to shut my builds back.
[03:35:02]  I think I'm okay with that.
[03:35:03]  But what about the question of vanity?
[03:35:04]  Like, why exactly aren't women normalizing plastic surgery for vanity, makeup for vanity?
[03:35:09]  If it's not socially expensive for men, why is it only a moment?
[03:35:12]  I never thought any of this was normal.
[03:35:13]  I think the Kardashians made it mainstream.
[03:35:15]  Yeah, as a heavy makeup wearer, can I jump in on this really quick?
[03:35:20]  I'd actually be okay with banning the nanotech, the plastic surgery, and the makeup and all cosmetics because then it levels the playing field.
[03:35:30]  And then I'd be totally cool.
[03:35:32]  I'll give it all up.
[03:35:34]  Well, that's what you feel like.
[03:35:35]  I think you two wear makeup to attract the type that you guys are, like personality genre, like why is attracted to.
[03:35:41]  Other women wear makeup so as to appeal to men that they want to like be attracted to.
[03:35:46]  It all comes down to male attraction.
[03:35:48]  That's what makeup is rooted is.
[03:35:50]  It does eventually become like, I enjoy doing it.
[03:35:53]  It can be soothing actually for me to put it on.
[03:35:56]  But at the very root of like why makeup is a thing, it's because of you know wanting to be attractive to men.
[03:36:02]  We need to go to the root of it.
[03:36:04]  If it's something that makes you, if you we all admit that plastic surgery makes you look worse and that there's an effect that makeup at its obvious points can make you look worse and you could probably look better without it, then it's not for male attraction.
[03:36:15]  It's legitimately, I can see where it started off.
[03:36:17]  Yeah, and I said that that's a good idea.
[03:36:18]  We need to go to the root of it, and that's that men find women attractive.
[03:36:22]  Like the reason why it's so important for men to find women physically attractive is because it shows that the woman is healthy because they have a higher chance of carrying a successful pregnancy.
[03:36:29]  When it comes to eyebrows, for example, if you have really, really thin eyebrows, there's a higher likelihood that you were deprived of nutrients as a child.
[03:36:34]  If you have thicker eyebrows, it shows that you were raised in a household that was able to properly give you food, which shows that you probably come from a richer family, which will probably lead to more prosperous children.
[03:36:43]  It's all about reproduction.
[03:36:44]  Women don't care about looks because they care about a guy who can provide.
[03:36:47]  Now, sometimes that ties into looks because it's like, oh, he's a hunter-gatherer.
[03:36:50]  He can kill a pig himself.
[03:36:51]  But like, the reason why men care about a woman's look so much is because it shows that she's healthy.
[03:36:56]  So that's why makeup is deceptive, deceptive, because it shows that she has good genetics or maybe is more healthy than she is when she really isn't that healthy.
[03:37:03]  Which goes to the bottom of the corner.
[03:37:03]  Well, then why don't y'all just date women that don't wear makeup?
[03:37:06]  Because y'all are so against it.
[03:37:07]  But my girlfriends wear makeup.
[03:37:08]  My girlfriend does not wear makeup.
[03:37:09]  That's you like pictures with women who have makeup.
[03:37:12]  Like, I'm not seeing the complete opposite when y'all say y'all don't like women in your rated rated women that wear makeup.
[03:37:19]  I would reverse engineer that argument.
[03:37:21]  The men who only like women that have plastic surgery and makeup are not typically men that women find attractive because they're seen as superficial, dumb, and easy to fool.
[03:37:29]  So it's kind of like we wouldn't be attracted to a man who wants us all dolled up looking like a sex doll.
[03:37:34]  So then why would we turn ourselves into something artificial?
[03:37:37]  Can I say this too?
[03:37:38]  And I think maybe most of the table might agree with me.
[03:37:40]  Society as a whole, like half the table just told Riley he'll be more attractive when he's older.
[03:37:45]  Men get older and women are like, wow, he's more attractive, like Silver Fox Daddy, whatever.
[03:37:50]  I feel like society has pressure on women.
[03:37:52]  We have one wrinkle and then we feel like we need to get some Botox, whatever, because there's a big societal.
[03:37:59]  It's because women with wrinkles are infertile, most likely.
[03:38:02]  That is why.
[03:38:03]  That is why men.
[03:38:04]  That is why men don't find that.
[03:38:07]  No, but we don't know.
[03:38:08]  That is the actual reason why men don't find women with wrinkles attractive or at least as attractive as a woman without.
[03:38:15]  It shows that they are of higher age, which means that they're less fertile.
[03:38:18]  It's not baby soft.
[03:38:19]  It's because most men don't make sense.
[03:38:20]  Well, that's why we feel the pressure.
[03:38:23]  That's why we feel the pressure to look, to make ourselves look a self-control.
[03:38:26]  Yeah, only women look younger.
[03:38:28]  It's more socially acceptable for men to look raggedy, have gray hair.
[03:38:31]  It's cool.
[03:38:32]  Well, because a man who's 55 can easily provide for a family.
[03:38:35]  Once again, I'm going to introduce a feminist argument on what do we mean.
[03:38:38]  If we lived in a well-functioning society where youth was not marketable and capitalist prone or whatever, women would age gracefully and be matrons within our society, giving younger women good advice within marriages that they can then impart to make the society even better.
[03:38:51]  The only reason women now are feeling compelled to look younger is because that's the only value in women nowadays in this society.
[03:38:57]  But before, there used to be a tremendous amount of value in women who are older guiding the younger generations.
[03:39:02]  Hence, the whole idea of a grandmother imparting her skills, cooking, sewing, all of that jazz, being strong, being able to hold on the four.
[03:39:09]  Nowadays, women's only value is the physical because we've stripped society away from any family values, from any sense of traditional, cultural, whatever.
[03:39:16]  So it's like you're basically destroying your face, not because you're trying to cater to men, but it's because you don't have a man that makes you feel stable or grounded yet.
[03:39:25]  And that's a product of how dysfunctional our society is.
[03:39:28]  So we're wearing makeup because we don't have man that's not into the mind.
[03:39:33]  I also say, do you wear makeup for your man at home?
[03:39:39]  I do.
[03:39:39]  Sometimes, yeah.
[03:39:40]  That's different.
[03:39:41]  You wear makeup for a different reason.
[03:39:43]  You do it for a cultural sort of like.
[03:39:45]  My husband likes me.
[03:39:46]  He likes me both ways.
[03:39:47]  Nice.
[03:39:48]  Nice.
[03:39:48]  Can we also ask the question?
[03:39:50]  When I went out all over Europe, the women over there were very natural.
[03:39:54]  And the men over the, when I would run into.
[03:39:57]  They're not fat.
[03:39:58]  When I would run into.
[03:39:59]  Well, I'm just saying they didn't wear makeup.
[03:40:00]  They didn't, like, I had pink toe nails.
[03:40:02]  They didn't, they didn't, they weren't into doing the nails thing.
[03:40:04]  It was also a very like, I don't want to say Americanized, but it's a cultural thing, too.
[03:40:08]  They're a homogenous nation that basically has prioritized their heritage.
[03:40:12]  They know what a French woman looks like.
[03:40:13]  They know what an Italian woman looks like.
[03:40:14]  They're more like natural, beauty, exact bodies.
[03:40:17]  Exactly.
[03:40:18]  When it comes to American women, especially in the 20th century when their culture has been ripped from them for the sake of like the post-World War II boom, all of our appearance post-1950s has been like commercial, dull, marketable, like look like this, look like that.
[03:40:32]  When before in the 1800s, it was valued that you were a strong, sturdy woman who wore no makeup, who was going to be resourceful, loving, caring.
[03:40:39]  Your character traits were what was emphasized because makeup wasn't a factor.
[03:40:43]  Beauty, vanity was not a value system in a society like that.
[03:40:46]  Like if you go to Paris, they don't really wear makeup.
[03:40:48]  Look at beauty and so have character traits though.
[03:40:51]  Yeah, just man.
[03:40:52]  But it's like, why would you hide your beauty behind the makeup, though?
[03:40:56]  Because oftentimes women are actually way more beautiful when they don't wear makeup because their natural features are shining.
[03:41:02]  Even if they're older, their natural features, their life or whatever, is imprinted on their face.
[03:41:07]  To you.
[03:41:08]  To everyone.
[03:41:09]  That's it.
[03:41:09]  To everyone.
[03:41:10]  Yeah.
[03:41:10]  You what?
[03:41:11]  To you.
[03:41:12]  To you because you judge women falsely.
[03:41:14]  To you because you judge women artificially.
[03:41:15]  You're not affected by the people.
[03:41:16]  I just think make women look for everyone better.
[03:41:18]  I judge women apply some standard of their natural beauty.
[03:41:20]  They are beautiful without any money invested.
[03:41:23]  They are beautiful for their natural beauty.
[03:41:24]  Are you wearing makeup right now?
[03:41:26]  A little bit of eyeliner.
[03:41:27]  Oh my gosh.
[03:41:27]  That's so deceptive of you.
[03:41:28]  But anyway, what I was going to say is.
[03:41:29]  You have no eyebrows.
[03:41:30]  What are you talking about?
[03:41:31]  No, no, no.
[03:41:32]  We're not going to criticize it.
[03:41:33]  No.
[03:41:34]  Not enough nutrients as a kid.
[03:41:36]  What did you say?
[03:41:37]  Not saying not enough nutrients as a kid.
[03:41:39]  Okay.
[03:41:40]  No, what I was going to say is I just personally think if makeup is applied correctly on every woman, it does make it.
[03:41:45]  It's supposed to enhance.
[03:41:46]  It's not supposed to take away.
[03:41:47]  That's the purpose typically of makeup, to enhance your features.
[03:41:50]  But what I'm arguing is, why are you enhancing it?
[03:41:52]  You are naturally beautiful.
[03:41:54]  Why not?
[03:41:55]  Because, number one, the financial incentive.
[03:41:56]  This is from Utah.
[03:41:58]  I'm out of town in Delaware.
[03:41:59]  I live in Utah.
[03:42:01]  No, I just, because I like it.
[03:42:02]  So my eyebrows are looking more visible on camera than hers.
[03:42:05]  It's not going to lie.
[03:42:06]  No one cares.
[03:42:07]  At the end of the day, we started that.
[03:42:09]  She started that.
[03:42:10]  When it comes to a financial incentive, once again, there's an entire industry targeting women to give them insecurity since they're little girls to get makeup.
[03:42:17]  Like that one elephant makeup pack that was being marketed to girls under 10 years old.
[03:42:21]  That's where it starts.
[03:42:22]  Why exactly do you think women are basically blaming men for having high beauty standards when in reality, a guy would pretty much data five without makeup with no problem?
[03:42:30]  It's women who are judging themselves too harshly and they're allowing actually gay men to dictate beauty standards for them.
[03:42:37]  Including the Ozempic is allowing the means of fat removal.
[03:42:41]  Everything.
[03:42:41]  Do I have a Ozempic face?

=== Penis Size Princesses (15:46) ===

[03:42:43]  No, actually your look.
[03:42:44]  Well, your look actually looks like Landal Durade to me.
[03:42:45]  So it's like Brian.
[03:42:47]  Can we do a shot?
[03:42:48]  Or not a shot?
[03:42:50]  I need a shot.
[03:42:50]  Yeah, please Brian the champagne.
[03:42:53]  Who donated that?
[03:42:53]  Taylor?
[03:42:54]  Yeah, Robert Tanner.
[03:42:55]  I don't know.
[03:42:55]  I just feel like if makeup was banned, it just wouldn't bother me.
[03:42:58]  We needed to be able to do that.
[03:42:59]  Once again, you're gorgeous.
[03:43:01]  Yeah, yeah.
[03:43:01]  Stop, stop, stop.
[03:43:02]  So somebody here has pronouns or something.
[03:43:05]  Who's that?
[03:43:05]  Is that you?
[03:43:07]  Are you the pronoun?
[03:43:08]  No.
[03:43:08]  She's in the bathroom.
[03:43:09]  Fuck.
[03:43:10]  Okay.
[03:43:10]  I'll have to.
[03:43:11]  Does anybody here have like protection?
[03:43:12]  Well, we all have pronouns.
[03:43:15]  Incorrect.
[03:43:16]  Don't worry about it.
[03:43:17]  Robert Tanner needs to realize that $1,000 investment will get you buzzed, but like a $4,000 investment would just get Brian wasted.
[03:43:24]  Like that's so lightweight.
[03:43:25]  That's so much better.
[03:43:26]  I am a lightweight.
[03:43:28]  Literally, three sips.
[03:43:29]  I'm fucking.
[03:43:30]  Four times the cost, just 100 times better.
[03:43:32]  But I kind of derailed a bit from your question, so I brought it into makeup.
[03:43:37]  Your question, what is the purpose of the looks rating thing?
[03:43:41]  Okay, so did you get into your objections?
[03:43:45]  No, I'm just genuinely curious.
[03:43:46]  Like, is it because you're like, what is the purpose of looks rating in general or asking it on the podcast?
[03:43:52]  Yeah.
[03:43:53]  Yeah, so I think that, so my position is I think that not all women, but a good amount of them typically have an inaccurate self-assessment of their own physical attractiveness.
[03:44:06]  And typically women tend to overappraise their attractiveness.
[03:44:11]  They tend to overrate themselves.
[03:44:13]  And whether they genuinely believe that or not, I suppose is up for debate.
[03:44:18]  But I think it speaks to a bit of the, there's ego, there's pride, there's hubris that on its own I find kind of unappealing, sort of like not, it's not even like an attraction thing.
[03:44:33]  I just, I genuinely, generally find hubris and pride kind of poor characteristics.
[03:44:44]  I think modesty, humbleness, I think those sort of traits ought to be cultivated more than just excessive pride and that.
[03:44:54]  But I think the big thing is one of the reasons I ask it is, well, I don't know if it's necessarily a reason I ask it, but I can tell you what the implication is for the dating landscape when you have not just the women who come on the show, but I would argue if you go out in public and ask women, you know, how do you assess your attractiveness, there's a degree of delusion.
[03:45:15]  I think a lot of women think they're more attractive than they actually are.
[03:45:19]  And so, and part of this is because, since very young, you know, you get the, what is it, the trophy?
[03:45:26]  What is the thing with the participation trophy?
[03:45:30]  The, you women are princesses and you're all amazing and you need to, oh my God, the world, you deserve the world.
[03:45:36]  And it's like, that's this very Disney thing where all these women think that they're Disney princesses, but the reality is, or they're kings, or not kings, excuse me, women think they're queens and princesses.
[03:45:48]  Realistically, if we're going to use like royalty, I think most women at best are court jesters.
[03:45:55]  Like, you're not a queen, you're not royalty, you're a peasant.
[03:46:01]  I think you're falling out.
[03:46:02]  You're all peasants.
[03:46:03]  I'm a peasant.
[03:46:04]  We're not special snowflakes.
[03:46:06]  We're all fucking.
[03:46:07]  Most people are just fucking average.
[03:46:09]  And so the reality is, though, I think a lot of women overappraise themselves.
[03:46:13]  They overrate themselves.
[03:46:15]  And so how's that going to play out in the dating landscape?
[03:46:20]  If you think you are more attractive than you actually are, you're going to start aiming for men outside of your league.
[03:46:26]  And then that's, here's what's going to happen.
[03:46:29]  Well, there's a whole bunch of shit that's going to happen.
[03:46:31]  One, the men who are actually on your level, you're settling for them.
[03:46:36]  That's fucking, it's terrible for the men.
[03:46:39]  It's terrible for you.
[03:46:41]  So if a bunch of women find, like, for example, most women, well, I'd say average looking women want to date above average men.
[03:46:50]  And it's about 50-50.
[03:46:53]  I would argue you see a lot more men that are less attractive with like solid eight, nine, tens.
[03:46:58]  Yeah.
[03:46:59]  Well, hold on.
[03:47:00]  But that's because women are really generous with their assessment and ratings of their own and other women's attractiveness and really harsh judges, really harsh judges of men's attractiveness.
[03:47:14]  So this idea that like, I'll grant to you that sometimes you'll see, by the way, it goes both ways.
[03:47:19]  You'll see like a really hot girl with like a, you know, she mogs him.
[03:47:24]  She's better looking than him.
[03:47:25]  You also see the reverse too.
[03:47:27]  However, I do think it's the case that if women rate other women higher and are harsh with their ratings towards men, then like this, you saying that, well, I see really good looking women with like ugly men.
[03:47:40]  I mean, okay, that's just because you're...
[03:47:42]  No, that's because I'm saying I think we come back to more character.
[03:47:44]  Like that's what I was trying to say.
[03:47:45]  Even if I said earlier, I also think insecure women tend to date down than dating up.
[03:47:51]  Okay, but so my, I guess my, my point is, is that women are going to be chasing after a caliber of man.
[03:47:59]  If they genuinely believe, okay, I'm this, I'm this attractive, they're going to be chasing after a caliber of man that might give them sex, but isn't going to give them a relationship, marriage, a ring, et cetera.
[03:48:12]  Because there's a difference that occurs when it comes to dating.
[03:48:16]  I think for not all men, right?
[03:48:18]  Not all men.
[03:48:19]  But I think men, how do I frame this the best?
[03:48:26]  Men will sleep with a woman that he would never, just on her looks alone, men will sleep with a woman that he would never be in a relationship with.
[03:48:35]  He's just using her for sex.
[03:48:36]  But he's like, he'll go down.
[03:48:38]  He'll date down, essentially, sleep down.
[03:48:40]  And so because this is a phenomenon, you can have a woman who's a five, a six, or a seven.
[03:48:46]  She can go fuck like a guy who's more attractive than her.
[03:48:50]  She can go sleep with him.
[03:48:52]  And like a woman, you just got to be pleasant and offer sex.
[03:48:56]  That's it.
[03:48:57]  And when I say pleasant, it's just like, don't be a fucking psycho crazy bitch.
[03:49:00]  Just be like pleasant.
[03:49:02]  Excuse me, sir, want some pussy?
[03:49:03]  I mean, not literally, but like.
[03:49:05]  That's all it takes for you as women.
[03:49:08]  Not all like hyper attractive men are going to bite on that.
[03:49:10]  But like on Tinder, on dating apps, you see the attention go to the top 10% of men on the dating apps.
[03:49:17]  Meanwhile, like the rest are fighting over scraps and pretty much just like completely zeroed out.
[03:49:22]  And so let me just finish.
[03:49:24]  And so if women are not realistic about their own attractiveness, they're going to reject men who are actually their league, their equivalent, and they're going to be sleeping with, pursuing, attempting to date really attractive men.
[03:49:44]  Now, this doesn't play out for all women, but I would say that's pretty much one of the big issues that I see.
[03:49:53]  And then as a woman, once you've had a taste of like a really attractive guy, you can't go back.
[03:50:01]  Like there's no going back.
[03:50:02]  And if you do, you're going to feel resentful.
[03:50:05]  Like you're going to have resentment for your looks league.
[03:50:08]  Well, not even your looks league.
[03:50:10]  You're going to have resentment for your league.
[03:50:13]  Yeah, yeah, you're going to have resentment.
[03:50:16]  And that's why these women, they fuck around in their 20s.
[03:50:19]  They get married at 30.
[03:50:20]  And then they get married to Joe Schmo because he's the only guy who will give her commitment.
[03:50:25]  Meanwhile, she spent her fucking 20s chasing after hot dudes and just getting ran through by fucking Chad.
[03:50:32]  And then the dick was better.
[03:50:34]  He was more attractive.
[03:50:35]  He was more psychologically and sexually stimulating because more attractive.
[03:50:40]  And then you're going to maybe pump out one or two kids.
[03:50:43]  And then I'm bored.
[03:50:44]  I'm bored.
[03:50:44]  I'm bored.
[03:50:44]  He doesn't stimulate me.
[03:50:45]  He's not attractive.
[03:50:46]  You're going to divorce him within a couple of years.
[03:50:48]  You're going to break up the entire family when that's actually your looks league.
[03:50:52]  I would reverse engineer the argument and say that except for the cases of girls who are very insecure.
[03:50:56]  So they're not really, they're dysfunctional to the mainstream society and girls who rebel against the norms, which I take that you are, typically women are in the red pill sphere, hypergamous.
[03:51:05]  So women usually will focus on a man's social status way more than his physical attributes, which is what I was going to say.
[03:51:11]  Yeah, I feel like you're putting it all on attraction when I'm like, for me, a little bit of a moment.
[03:51:15]  It's part of it.
[03:51:15]  How is he as a dad?
[03:51:16]  How is he successful?
[03:51:17]  Is he driven?
[03:51:18]  Like, there's more than just I don't know.
[03:51:20]  I don't think for a while.
[03:51:21]  And what if they were a woman?
[03:51:22]  I really don't care about looks, to be honest.
[03:51:24]  I don't either.
[03:51:24]  I don't care about looks.
[03:51:25]  I really don't say anything.
[03:51:27]  They don't care about looks or fucking.
[03:51:28]  I care about looks about chemistry and attraction, but there are other things that will add to that.
[03:51:33]  Yeah, I think.
[03:51:34]  But that's not my, my argument isn't women only care about looks.
[03:51:37]  No, I know I'm curious.
[03:51:38]  Women care about looks and then like a fuck ton of other things too.
[03:51:42]  And you guys will figure them out.
[03:51:44]  I totally agree.
[03:51:45]  Men should care about other things.
[03:51:47]  Women don't care about looks as much.
[03:51:48]  That's exactly what I'm saying.
[03:51:48]  Yeah, exactly.
[03:51:50]  I think we are way less superficial.
[03:51:52]  I do.
[03:51:53]  I kind of disagree with this.
[03:51:54]  I actually think women claim to them.
[03:51:56]  No way superficial.
[03:51:57]  No, no way.
[03:51:58]  I'm now.
[03:51:59]  Yes.
[03:52:00]  I side with Brian on this one.
[03:52:02]  So here's my argument.
[03:52:05]  Now, I do think it is the case that, for example, men can make up for their lack of looks through other means.
[03:52:11]  So like if he's really confident or he's really funny or if he has status or if he's a professional athlete or he's bringing his personality, whatever.
[03:52:21]  But like very few men actually reach like those high levels where like they will overcome their deficit in their looks.
[03:52:28]  Like very few.
[03:52:29]  Like how many men are like that level of funny?
[03:52:32]  How many men?
[03:52:33]  How many men are that rich?
[03:52:34]  How many men are that famous?
[03:52:36]  How many men have that amount of status?
[03:52:37]  How many men are hyper successful?
[03:52:40]  Could I give you an example real quick?
[03:52:42]  I'll just finish my point, but absolutely.
[03:52:44]  So I think, for example, in terms of my position that I think women care more about looks, I think that of the things that when it comes to looks, women care about, those tend to be things that are completely outside the man's control.
[03:52:58]  So height, hair, which, look, if a guy's balding, he can't like...
[03:53:04]  Please don't let me go, but like he can't really control that.
[03:53:08]  Obviously, there's intervention, like he could do, there's drugs, he could get hair transplants, but absent intervention to that degree, if a guy's balding, like can't really control it.
[03:53:19]  Height, penis size, men can't control this thing.
[03:53:23]  Men cannot control these things.
[03:53:25]  And these are things, physical traits that women care about.
[03:53:29]  Whereas like for men, like, yeah, men like big boobs, you can't, as a woman, you can't really control that.
[03:53:36]  Men like big butts, nice butt, which you can, you can get through working out.
[03:53:41]  But overall, it's like, just don't be fat.
[03:53:44]  For men, it's mostly just don't be fat, which women can control, but height, hair, and penis size, men can't control that.
[03:53:55]  Women care a fuck ton about height.
[03:53:57]  Men can't control hair?
[03:53:58]  No.
[03:53:59]  Like if a guy's balding.
[03:54:00]  Oh, I see, I see.
[03:54:01]  Like he can't, like, yeah, he can get surgery or whatever, but.
[03:54:05]  I don't think penis size matters, though.
[03:54:07]  Well, I would argue that.
[03:54:07]  That's fine for you.
[03:54:08]  Can I point out that?
[03:54:09]  I would argue it matters for talking about the average.
[03:54:12]  I would also argue that when it comes to looks, everyone cares about looks because if you're attracted to someone, that's the baseline of you initiating a relationship with them.
[03:54:19]  But when it comes to women, if a man is not attractive to them, they'll be nice to them at first, but if he insists, it starts to feel dangerous when he's unattractive.
[03:54:26]  Men don't have that same complex.
[03:54:28]  So women really, I think, actually do value looks more than men only because if a man is unattractive and insists, you're scared of him.
[03:54:36]  Meanwhile, if a woman is unattractive and she insists with a man, as Brian said, they might just end up using them for sex.
[03:54:43]  No, you have women all the time that are like, I was not even attracted to this guy from the beginning.
[03:54:48]  They're insecure.
[03:54:49]  They don't follow the nature.
[03:54:50]  I disagree.
[03:54:51]  I think that you can genuinely not be attracted to a dude and then get to know him and become attracted.
[03:54:54]  Very rarely do you find a guy dating a girl saying, I was not attracted to her, and I'm with her.
[03:55:00]  I do think there's a baseline level of, I kind of agree with you, but I do think there's like a baseline level of physical, like a threshold of physical attractiveness that they have to get over.
[03:55:12]  But then I do agree that like if you like the guy's personality, you tend to find him more physically attractive the more you get to know him.
[03:55:20]  Also, in my 600-pound life, as it was brought up, there's a lot of men who will only date what they can get.
[03:55:25]  And it's not a matter of, oh, they found her attractive.
[03:55:27]  It's like, this is the only thing that's saying.
[03:55:30]  But when you're saying that as a woman, you have to date better than you.
[03:55:33]  And as a woman, you know, when you're insecure, you'll date someone you're not necessarily attracted to.
[03:55:37]  I disagree with that.
[03:55:38]  I did make sure that being married before, I'm like, I absolutely need attraction, but that is not the forefront.
[03:55:44]  There are so many other things in my life that are more important than just being like, this is the sexiest man alive.
[03:55:49]  But by that logic, you're basically saying, I didn't find you physically attractive.
[03:55:53]  I only married you for XYZ.
[03:55:56]  But you also have to factor in that I think the majority of her relationships are now starting online.
[03:56:01]  A lot of people are meeting on dating apps.
[03:56:03]  It's a massive way in which people are meeting.
[03:56:05]  And I mean, you're going to have to afford the, like, we've done this experiment.
[03:56:10]  I mean, we could even do it tonight.
[03:56:11]  Although, because I've preempted my point here, I feel like you guys would adjust your answers.
[03:56:16]  We've gone around the table, pulled up bumble, and just had girls like, yes or no, would you go on a date with this guy?
[03:56:23]  And just on the looks alone, women will reject like 90% of the men that they're presented with.
[03:56:28]  And it's like, so it's like, okay, well, the experience on the dating app is, well, it's almost exclusively looks.
[03:56:36]  And then, yeah, of course, like if the guy's a piece of shit, maybe you still fuck him, but the looks have to come first.
[03:56:44]  And so I'm not saying that there's other things.
[03:56:46]  Like you can bolster your, as a man, you can bolster yourself.
[03:56:50]  By the way, I think women can also bolster themselves through their personality.
[03:56:54]  Okay, you're an average-looking girl.
[03:56:56]  Are you pleasant?
[03:56:58]  Are you not a fucking, are you not a hoe?
[03:57:00]  Do you fuck, do you cook, do you clean?
[03:57:03]  Do you do things for him?
[03:57:03]  Do you make yourself helpful to him?
[03:57:05]  Are you submissive?
[03:57:07]  Do you have good values, et cetera, et cetera?
[03:57:09]  You can make yourself more appealing to men.
[03:57:13]  But I mean, I would argue that when it comes to women, this idea that women don't care about looks or it's kind of like a minimal concern for women, completely ridiculous.
[03:57:25]  No, no, Brian.
[03:57:25]  I have an argument.
[03:57:26]  I don't really care.
[03:57:27]  I just think it's not like as harsh as most men probably are.
[03:57:31]  But I mean, I think.
[03:57:33]  Wait, Brian, I wanted to bring up my argument here.
[03:57:35]  So basically, you're familiar with Alex Stein, right?
[03:57:37]  Yeah, of course.
[03:57:38]  What would you rate Alex Stein?
[03:57:41]  Alex Stein.
[03:57:43]  Well, he's a tall guy.
[03:57:44]  He's like 6'4 or something.
[03:57:46]  So that helps for him.
[03:57:47]  He's funny.
[03:57:49]  No, but looks-wise.
[03:57:50]  Honestly, like very average face, maybe below average.
[03:57:54]  Okay, okay.
[03:57:55]  So at Amfest, when I was with him, he was just getting surrounded by women that all obviously wanted him.
[03:58:00]  So it's like, that's why it's like, sure, it might not matter.
[03:58:04]  A little bit matters a little bit for the looks, but like.
[03:58:06]  Well, so to be fair, though, Alex Stein, Alex Stein has some.
[03:58:11]  You were at, where is it, CPAC or where did you get?
[03:58:13]  Amfest.
[03:58:13]  Amfest.
[03:58:14]  Phoenix.
[03:58:14]  Yeah, so I mean, Alex Stein has a following.
[03:58:17]  He has some status within the conservative circle.
[03:58:21]  Mad Really.
[03:58:22]  Women were just these conservative women just throwing their pants, like throwing their panties on.
[03:58:26]  I mean, essentially, yeah, it was getting close to it.
[03:58:28]  Yeah, especially if they like TV.

=== Outside League Sexual Access (14:52) ===

[03:58:29]  I would argue against the dating app theory only because Tinder, Bumble, all of these apps were designed after Grinder, a gay dating app.
[03:58:35]  Women don't function the same way gay men do.
[03:58:37]  We're not going to date someone that we don't know because it's just not safe.
[03:58:40]  So the only women who are going out on the majority of these apps are women who are unstable and reckless.
[03:58:46]  I don't think that's true.
[03:58:46]  No, I met my husband on Tinder.
[03:58:49]  I don't think that's true.
[03:58:50]  I think, like, honestly, I actually know several couples who are married that met on dating.
[03:58:56]  True, but for a 90%.
[03:58:58]  That's anecdotal, but for a 90% rejection rate, I think there's an element of safety where you just don't want to go out with a random guy.
[03:59:04]  If you nail someone who's like gorgeous, sure.
[03:59:06]  Hold on, but everyone's a stranger before.
[03:59:09]  But if you meet organically, that's different in a safe, controlled environment.
[03:59:13]  But if you're meeting online, that's different.
[03:59:17]  I think it's safer to vet men because I've found, you know.
[03:59:21]  But how would you vet a men from an internet experience?
[03:59:23]  Like, Stranger Danger was an application we were raised with.
[03:59:26]  How is that not applicable to a romantic sexual situation?
[03:59:29]  Yeah, I think.
[03:59:29]  You meet in public.
[03:59:32]  The safety of dating apps, I mean, there are precautions that a woman can take prior to meeting up with a man that would alleviate most of the concerns.
[03:59:41]  I mean, obviously, you meet in the public place.
[03:59:44]  You have a phone call, a FaceTime call beforehand, you vet them on the phone beforehand.
[03:59:47]  You give them your address.
[03:59:49]  Yeah, you meet somewhere public.
[03:59:51]  So, I mean, but why it's a gay dating app models for heterosexual dynamics would not work effectively for the same intentions that a gay dating app would work.
[04:00:01]  It's a hookup app just to have sex with whoever.
[04:00:03]  Gay men obviously have that for their clothes.
[04:00:05]  So, with Tinder and all of this jazz, if it's a dating app, it's not going to have the same efficacy.
[04:00:10]  I want to go back to, I guess, your point, which is why do we ask this question?
[04:00:13]  Why does it matter?
[04:00:15]  From what I see in the dating landscape, and look, just to be clear, I think men can be delusional too.
[04:00:20]  There's definitely men out there who think they're more attractive than they otherwise are, whether it's related to their looks or something else.
[04:00:26]  They're delusional, they have a big ego, they have pride.
[04:00:30]  But I think there's a difference.
[04:00:31]  Think if a man is like, I'm a 10, I'm the shit, and then he goes and like, say he could be pleasant and say he makes himself sexually available to women, even women in his league.
[04:00:47]  But let's say like he's shooting outside of his league or whatever.
[04:00:51]  Men are gonna men face rejection on the front end.
[04:00:55]  Women will face a different sort of rejection, typically on the back end.
[04:01:00]  So, as a man, if I go up to a girl and say she's out of my league, like say she, look, I'm fucking 36, I'm pasty, I'm chubby right now, poor skin clarity, fucking big note, like, bro, I could list like my deficits.
[04:01:18]  And I step to a fucking, I don't know, 25-year-old supermodel, not like the Calvin Klein, like fat, woke supermodels, like models, like a genuine supermodel.
[04:01:28]  Like, I'm getting rejected.
[04:01:30]  Like, I'm getting rejected.
[04:01:34]  Men will face that on the front end, but I could be pleasant and I could, you know, make myself available, let's say.
[04:01:42]  I'm not getting, if I step outside my league, I'm really, look, sometimes you get, you get lucky, right?
[04:01:48]  Maybe.
[04:01:49]  But generally speaking, if you step outside your league as a man, you're going to get rejected.
[04:01:53]  I'm not getting, I'm not getting a date.
[04:01:55]  I'm not getting, I'm not getting a number.
[04:01:57]  I'm not going to get, I'm not going to get a kiss.
[04:02:00]  I'm not going to get sex.
[04:02:01]  I'm not going to get a relationship.
[04:02:02]  I get nothing.
[04:02:04]  Now, as a woman, as a woman, if you shoot your shot with a guy outside of your league and you're pleasant and you make yourself available to him, if you understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying you have to be like, hey, want to fuck.
[04:02:19]  But if you're approaching a guy and you're making yourself available to him, he's going to look and say, well, she's pleasant.
[04:02:29]  I can fuck.
[04:02:29]  I'll fuck her.
[04:02:31]  Once, twice, three times.
[04:02:34]  Maybe he'll keep you around, friends with benefits.
[04:02:37]  That's why women get in situationships.
[04:02:40]  You're not attractive enough for that guy to want to lock down.
[04:02:43]  And to be fair, sometimes a guy's not in the place where he even wants a relationship, even if it is with a girl who's in his league.
[04:02:49]  But you make yourself available and pleasant, and you offer up pussy.
[04:02:56]  Even if that guy is not, okay, even if that guy looks at you and he's like, on her looks alone, I would never be in a relationship with her, he'll fuck.
[04:03:05]  Like, he'll fuck you, he'll use you for sex.
[04:03:08]  I'm not saying it's right, but he'll do it.
[04:03:10]  Whereas, like, I think for women, in order for a woman to have sex with a man, that man has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him.
[04:03:23]  So I'll say that again.
[04:03:25]  In order for a woman to have sex with a man, he needs to be at least attractive enough, some level of baseline, that she would be in a relationship with that guy.
[04:03:34]  For men, it's like the inverse.
[04:03:37]  And actually, it's inverse in a couple different ways.
[04:03:40]  For women, for a woman to have a one-night stand, it's almost the total opposite.
[04:03:48]  When a man's just looking for casual sex, one-night stand, like, yeah, maybe he'll like, ideally, it's better to have it with the hottest girl you can get, but he will go down to get the one-night stand.
[04:03:59]  When a woman's willing to have a one-night stand or a casual sexual encounter, the guy, it's not like, I need to get laid out.
[04:04:07]  I'll just like, I'll get it with like an unattractive guy.
[04:04:10]  No, actually, women will break their rule for casual sex.
[04:04:13]  The guy actually has to be more attractive.
[04:04:16]  He has to be really hot.
[04:04:18]  If she isn't otherwise, if a woman isn't otherwise interested in casual sex, if the guy's like really fucking hot, she'll go, she'll break her rule in that direction.
[04:04:28]  I think you're completely right.
[04:04:30]  Do you think I'm right?
[04:04:31]  You're right.
[04:04:31]  Like a girl, like, ah, I'm looking for a relationship, but he's so fucking hot.
[04:04:35]  I guess I'll fuck.
[04:04:36]  Like, women will break their rule that way.
[04:04:38]  Whereas, like, so, so I think there's a difference here.
[04:04:40]  So, because, and look, I'm not saying it's right.
[04:04:42]  A man will sleep with a woman and just on her looks alone, he would never be in a relationship with her.
[04:04:49]  He's already categorized her as like sex only.
[04:04:52]  Not that.
[04:04:53]  Because men are just like more down bad and like more willing to sleep.
[04:04:55]  Yeah, well, no, no, that's just biological.
[04:04:57]  Yeah, so like the root behind it is when a woman would have sex with a man for the entirety of the like reproductive lifespan, you could say, she has to be pregnant for nine months in order to reproduce.
[04:05:08]  I already understand it's more biologically nine.
[04:05:10]  Yeah, so a woman has to be pregnant for nine months.
[04:05:11]  Like men just aren't going to have sex more often.
[04:05:14]  Yeah, and then the man, for him to successfully reproduce, it takes him like five, 10, 15 minutes.
[04:05:18]  So that's why men are less picky.
[04:05:19]  I know, I'm making the point for people who don't know that.
[04:05:21]  Okay.
[04:05:22]  So it's a podcast.
[04:05:24]  So, I mean, yeah, that's basically what comes down to it.
[04:05:26]  Women are picky because you're like, should I risk having a child with this man?
[04:05:29]  Is he able to provide?
[04:05:31]  While men are kind of just like, stick your dick in anything that has a hole, including Gorlock.
[04:05:35]  So that's essentially it.
[04:05:37]  Would you agree that vagina rules the world then?
[04:05:42]  No, maybe persuades, you could say.
[04:05:44]  Well, by that logic, especially the big labias, like Brian.
[04:05:48]  By that law, you would have to say that casual sex is a currency that women have, and it's not.
[04:05:52]  It's oppressive to women.
[04:05:53]  It distorts their soul.
[04:05:54]  It just makes them dysfunctional.
[04:05:56]  So it's not that vagina rules the world.
[04:05:58]  It's that if a man does do that to you, it leaves you wounded.
[04:06:01]  And for him, it leaves him addicted to sex.
[04:06:03]  It makes him obese.
[04:06:05]  Yeah.
[04:06:07]  I don't know.
[04:06:07]  Did anything that I say there, did any of that make sense to any of the women?
[04:06:11]  Like, does that map onto reality for any of you?
[04:06:14]  Yeah.
[04:06:15]  I don't know.
[04:06:15]  I also think the amount of lust that men can have due to that sometimes can be a problem.
[04:06:19]  Yeah, really quick.
[04:06:20]  You have pronouns, right?
[04:06:23]  Yeah, don't you have pronouns in your Instagram bio?
[04:06:26]  Probably, but.
[04:06:27]  What are they?
[04:06:27]  Like, fey, them or something?
[04:06:29]  Oh, yeah.
[04:06:29]  I thought they sounded cool.
[04:06:30]  Oh, those aren't your actual pronouns?
[04:06:33]  Okay, so, anyways, back to this, just really quick, finishing off my point here.
[04:06:37]  And I think there's a couple things like why the looks rating matters.
[04:06:41]  So I think also because of this, because women can sleep with men, say, that are outside their league.
[04:06:48]  Like, for example, Drake, he'll just fuck some like good-looking Instagram chick who is like socioeconomically completely below him.
[04:06:57]  I mean, he's probably like selecting for good looks.
[04:07:02]  So maybe like she's better looking than him.
[04:07:05]  But you'll have like famous men who will date these women.
[04:07:07]  So you have like average women who can have access to men who are more attractive than them.
[04:07:13]  Granted, these men are just using them for sex, but it's like be pleasant and you're an average looking woman, make yourself sexually available.
[04:07:21]  Like you can fuck men who would never commit to you, but who are like attractive.
[04:07:26]  And you see this happening on dating apps.
[04:07:28]  Like a guy might just be like on a fucking Friday, some like really attractive dude who's on a dating app.
[04:07:33]  Oh, here's some like chubby, average-looking chick.
[04:07:36]  Okay, I'll fuck her.
[04:07:37]  Like you might object to it, but like this is a phenomenon that happens.
[04:07:41]  And then that chubby, average-looking chick is like, oh, I fucked a dude who's like a nine or an eight.
[04:07:48]  Therefore, I must be an eight too.
[04:07:51]  And then they look at the guys who are like chubby, average-looking dudes, and they're like, I can do better.
[04:07:56]  But it's like, no, the guy just wants to use you for sex.
[04:07:59]  And if you want a relationship, you're not going to get the hot dude.
[04:08:03]  And you're a chubby, average-looking chick.
[04:08:05]  You're not going to get the hot dude.
[04:08:07]  Go match up with the chubby, average, like, dude.
[04:08:09]  So it's like.
[04:08:10]  I think it would benefit the dating sphere more if men were slightly more intentional about who they had sex with.
[04:08:15]  I'm fine.
[04:08:16]  I'm totally fine with that.
[04:08:17]  Yeah, absolutely.
[04:08:17]  I'm totally fine with that.
[04:08:18]  We're also discussing people who are ultimately empty.
[04:08:20]  I mean, there's been the subject, as Hannah has brought up multiple times, of character, where yes, looks are important to get your foot into the door, but ultimately, average people are usually in long-term committed relationships with other average people.
[04:08:31]  It's typically the extremes that are really ugly, like the polyamorous people, where it's just like a cesspit, or really successful and gold diggers are going after them.
[04:08:40]  But averages, so not blackpill, the majority of people are averages, they're dating pretty much within their own field.
[04:08:48]  Yes, for getting relationships, but if I would argue that, like, for example, I think average-looking men don't have sexual access to women who are better looking than them, who are outside of their league.
[04:09:02]  But average-looking women definitely have limited sexual access to men who are outside of their league.
[04:09:09]  Now, whether they act on it or not is different.
[04:09:11]  I'm not saying all women do this.
[04:09:14]  I argue all women have the capacity to do it.
[04:09:16]  Furthermore, I would argue this.
[04:09:17]  I think that as a man, if I have sex with a woman, I have a high confidence level I can get that woman into a relationship.
[04:09:26]  I don't think women can be quite as confident as, like, for example, let me ask, just because you can sleep with a guy, how confident are you in all instances that you can get him into a relationship?
[04:09:38]  It's harder.
[04:09:39]  I feel like you guys would be not quite as confident, but I'm very confident if I can sleep with a woman.
[04:09:45]  It's not 100%, but I'm very confident I can get her into relationships.
[04:09:49]  You're using the wrong value systems.
[04:09:50]  It's like saying, oh, well, you know, women can sleep with whoever they want.
[04:09:53]  Sexual access to a woman is not a value metric.
[04:09:55]  It's a relationship, as you pointed out.
[04:09:56]  And a relationship access is not really a value metric to a man who doesn't want to date someone who he just has interest in having sex with.
[04:10:03]  You're putting a value metric that men have onto women, saying, oh, you can sleep with whoever you want.
[04:10:07]  Women don't like that.
[04:10:08]  As Riley already pointed out, we're not really someone.
[04:10:13]  Continue, continue.
[04:10:14]  Mexico came to us.
[04:10:16]  I'm in heaven.
[04:10:17]  Yeah.
[04:10:18]  Continue.
[04:10:19]  Women are not interested in having sex with just a random high-status man.
[04:10:23]  They're trying to secure him and bait him with sex into a relationship.
[04:10:26]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[04:10:28]  Hold on.
[04:10:28]  I got to push back on this.
[04:10:30]  Do you think, do you think that a woman who is fucking Chris Brown thinks that there's a high probability she's going to get a relationship from Chris Brown?
[04:10:41]  She has a relationship.
[04:10:42]  Well, yeah, sure.
[04:10:43]  Like she wants a relationship with him, but like realistically...
[04:10:47]  Remember, delusion.
[04:10:49]  Like, I understand.
[04:10:51]  Yes, maybe she does want a relationship, but I think like pragmatically speaking, I think most women who fuck like famous dudes, realistically speaking, like if a guy's in a relationship, they know they're not going to get the guy.
[04:11:05]  If a guy's in a relationship with a girl, is he really wanting to get her flowers and get her all of this stuff?
[04:11:09]  Or is he trying to get sex?
[04:11:10]  Whoever bought the merchant.
[04:11:11]  Wait, what?
[04:11:12]  If a guy is in a relationship with a girl, does he want to be cuddling, holding hands, giving her flowers, or is he using the relationship to get sex?
[04:11:18]  Likewise, if a woman is having sex with a high-status man, is she doing it because she really wants to have sex with him?
[04:11:23]  Or is it because she's trying to get a relationship out of him?
[04:11:26]  So are you arguing that women are disinterested in sex and their own sexual pleasure, and they're using sex as a form of leverage to secure men into long-term relationships?
[04:11:39]  If women were interested in sex, why do you have an abundance of women saying they don't enjoy it and that men don't give them pleasure and that they're not affected by the money?
[04:11:44]  I think it's completely...
[04:11:46]  Hold on.
[04:11:46]  I think it's completely...
[04:11:47]  First off, women are the ones who have fucking multiple orgasms.
[04:11:50]  I would argue.
[04:11:51]  But I have no idea what that is.
[04:11:54]  I argue that women derive more pleasure.
[04:11:57]  Women are the ones with their legs fucking shaking.
[04:12:00]  They're faking it.
[04:12:01]  Less than 10% of women in one night stands orgasm.
[04:12:06]  They're not guaranteed an orgasm.
[04:12:08]  Women are not guaranteed that whatsoever.
[04:12:10]  Okay, well, that's on you guys.
[04:12:12]  But that's what I'm saying.
[04:12:13]  Women don't have orgasms.
[04:12:14]  Actually, most women don't orgasm during sex.
[04:12:17]  Most of them are not.
[04:12:18]  It has to be a headache.
[04:12:19]  Sorry for you.
[04:12:20]  If a woman is unstable and reckless, she might have an orgasm with a man in an unstable and reckless situation.
[04:12:25]  But for the majority of women, our headspace do be in a place of stability and trust do that.
[04:12:29]  Look, I don't dispute that, yes, men, like in a given sexual encounter, men are more likely to be the ones to climax.
[04:12:36]  Like, there's no dispute there.
[04:12:38]  But to be clear, I think, like, in a relationship, I think I mean, it depends on the women.
[04:12:44]  Some women have like difficulty climaxing, but like most women.
[04:12:49]  Hold on.
[04:12:49]  I don't know.
[04:12:49]  Like, maybe I've just been like, when I roll the dice, I've been lucky or whatever.
[04:12:53]  Like, girl, these women have fucking.
[04:12:55]  No, we're not.
[04:12:55]  I faked a lot, okay?
[04:12:57]  Okay, well, that's funny.
[04:12:58]  Like, get this over with.
[04:12:59]  That's totally wow, that's it.
[04:13:01]  A lot of women like that.
[04:13:02]  You should never fake.
[04:13:03]  Hold on.
[04:13:03]  You should never fake an orgasm because it just sets you up.
[04:13:07]  Like, for you got to be, oh, men are bad communicators.
[04:13:11]  Hold on.
[04:13:11]  Y'all are the ones faking orgasms.
[04:13:13]  Communicate with your sexual parents.
[04:13:14]  Can't do it for the men, though.
[04:13:15]  Communicate with you.
[04:13:16]  Yeah.
[04:13:17]  Can we go on the table and ask every woman who's faked an orgasm at least once?
[04:13:20]  Can we do that?

=== Pedestalizing Women (15:53) ===

[04:13:21]  I don't think so.
[04:13:21]  Sure.
[04:13:22]  Show hands who's faked an orgasm.
[04:13:23]  Oh, shit.
[04:13:24]  Guys.
[04:13:25]  Wait, it's not like the usual, but it happens.
[04:13:27]  Like, it happens.
[04:13:28]  It happens.
[04:13:29]  Sometimes you're just enjoying yourself and they think that you did, and you're like, for some sex is a bonding thing.
[04:13:35]  I want it.
[04:13:35]  I want it.
[04:13:35]  Sometimes it's like an ego boost, though.
[04:13:37]  Like, he thinks he's really putting in work, so I really want to do it.
[04:13:40]  Why isn't he doing?
[04:13:42]  I'm not going to be here for six hours and right now.
[04:13:45]  These women aren't having orgasms because they're desensitized from their vibrators.
[04:13:48]  Like, we all know that.
[04:13:49]  That's the actual truth of it.
[04:13:51]  Once they get into the relationship, their levels of sexual satisfaction and orgasm goes up to the bottom.
[04:13:56]  Doing that.
[04:13:57]  I have a hot take when it comes to everybody.
[04:14:00]  Oh, my God.
[04:14:01]  Okay.
[04:14:03]  Sorry for the delay, man.
[04:14:04]  Sorry for the delay.
[04:14:05]  I agree with you, Brian.
[04:14:07]  Doctor, I do not understand why your guests are disagreeing.
[04:14:10]  Thank you, bro.
[04:14:11]  FYI have no room to say nothing else.
[04:14:13]  I need, I bought the champagne.
[04:14:16]  I'll do it right now.
[04:14:17]  You keep promising us this.
[04:14:18]  Robert Tanner.
[04:14:19]  Thank you for the Robert Tanner.
[04:14:20]  Thank you for the big guys.
[04:14:21]  W's in the chat for Robert.
[04:14:23]  $1,000.
[04:14:24]  Thank you, Rob.
[04:14:25]  What a fucking legend.
[04:14:27]  I'm going to pop two champagne bottles.
[04:14:30]  I'm going to be double-fisting it.
[04:14:31]  GG William, I noticed most ladies suggested the young lad to grow his beard.
[04:14:35]  Quick question.
[04:14:36]  What would be your reaction if you meet a man with that beard you like?
[04:14:40]  You sleep together and in the morning it's gone.
[04:14:42]  Oh, it's makeup.
[04:14:43]  It's makeup assumption.
[04:14:45]  I've met guys who've shaved and I'm like, ugh, but I liked them, so I got over it.
[04:14:50]  Literally, I know.
[04:14:50]  I have a hot take when it comes to orgasm.
[04:14:52]  Sex is supposed to be a bonding thing that unites two souls.
[04:14:55]  With men, I honestly feel like their emotions are in their private parts.
[04:14:59]  If they hate you, they have violating fantasies about you.
[04:15:02]  If they love you, they make love to you.
[04:15:04]  And if they're like annoyed by you, they just F you.
[04:15:06]  Like it's all a metric of how they're emotionally feeling towards you.
[04:15:09]  When it comes to women, just having that physical intimacy is good enough where it's just like bonding you to this guy.
[04:15:15]  The climax itself is like a charity on top, but it's more so just being able to have that intimacy with him that's more important.
[04:15:21]  That's why foreplay is important for women, not to climax, but just to have that affection and attention.
[04:15:26]  So that's why I'm like, we're arguing oranges and tomatoes.
[04:15:28]  We're equalizing men and women when they're not the same.
[04:15:31]  I mean, the only thing that really matters is men climaxing because that's what leads to us.
[04:15:35]  Yeah, but men also lie about climaxing.
[04:15:37]  Yeah, yeah, a guy lying about how does that pleasure not important.
[04:15:44]  No, he's saying like a race is reproduction.
[04:15:47]  When it comes to adoption, the male orgasm would be the only thing necessary for getting How would a man fake an orgasm?
[04:15:53]  Well, they can't get an orgasm if we're dry, so you better start making us wet.
[04:15:57]  So maybe it is important.
[04:15:59]  I would actually witness my ex actually lie about nutting.
[04:16:05]  Like straight up fucking lie about nutting.
[04:16:07]  And you know, he'll like, he'll do like the extra shit, right?
[04:16:12]  And I know he didn't nut.
[04:16:13]  He don't have to look.
[04:16:14]  But like he will lie and say that he nut it.
[04:16:16]  Yeah.
[04:16:17]  Just to try to make me feel better.
[04:16:19]  But, like, I know you didn't nut.
[04:16:21]  I'm like, so men also lie about nutting the same way that women lie about netting because we want to make each other feel better.
[04:16:27]  Or sometimes they're lies.
[04:16:29]  Men will do it a lot less than women do.
[04:16:32]  Because they're not exactly able to.
[04:16:34]  It's true.
[04:16:35]  I mean, I don't, I'm not saying I don't fake it.
[04:16:37]  Most of the time, I don't even have it.
[04:16:39]  Okay, so you didn't believe him, though, right?
[04:16:40]  You instantly didn't believe him.
[04:16:42]  Oh, no.
[04:16:43]  Why?
[04:16:44]  Well, I would know.
[04:16:45]  Yeah, you would know, obviously, because there's something that physical that happens, not just mental, right?
[04:16:49]  So that's why a man.
[04:16:50]  So why do you say that men ejaculating is the only most important thing that women climb it in?
[04:16:56]  I don't, I just.
[04:16:57]  Because when a man ejaculates, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much.
[04:17:02]  I know that.
[04:17:03]  The man goes inside the woman, finishes, and the sperm combines with an egg to make children.
[04:17:07]  Right, so creating is the most important thing.
[04:17:10]  It is a lot more important.
[04:17:11]  He's also got a hobby to me, though.
[04:17:13]  Sex quits in a relationship.
[04:17:15]  No, he's just trying to make the point that the male orgasm is the only thing necessary for reproduction, which is what sex is actually for.
[04:17:24]  Right, right.
[04:17:24]  Like, it is pleasurable.
[04:17:26]  It is meant to be a bonding thing.
[04:17:27]  Like, from a Christian standpoint, it is a representation of, you know, basically your spiritual, you know, the church and Christ, and it's beautiful.
[04:17:39]  But, like, as far as what the organs and all of that system is made for, it is ultimately made for reproduction.
[04:17:46]  Yeah, the entire reason all of you guys want to have sex is for reproduction.
[04:17:50]  The only reason.
[04:17:51]  Except the majority of the guys that are sleeping with women that they don't find attractive are not trying to get them pregnant.
[04:17:56]  Okay.
[04:17:57]  Well, I don't know.
[04:17:57]  Like, the biological drive that's underpinning that, it's not that they're consciously thinking.
[04:18:03]  I want to have a kid, but subconsciously.
[04:18:04]  I want to get her pregnant.
[04:18:06]  But we have the, it's the base.
[04:18:07]  That's what creates the base animal urge driving the behavior, not conscious thought.
[04:18:14]  That's why Christianity is important, because with morality, it restricts man's promiscuity.
[04:18:17]  But without it, he turns into an animal, and animals in the animal kingdom will have sex with whatever movie for.
[04:18:23]  Christianity is uniquely beneficial for women because it actually, instead of like giving men a pass for monogamy, it was like, no, you both will be chaste and only be with one another.
[04:18:34]  And so it was actually, in my opinion, very liberating for women because women were also considered equal in value in a culture that didn't necessarily believe that.
[04:18:44]  Women are equal.
[04:18:45]  Huh?
[04:18:46]  Women are equal.
[04:18:46]  They're not the same, but they're equal.
[04:18:48]  Like in the same way, four quarters is equal to a dollar.
[04:18:51]  Spiritually.
[04:18:52]  Not the same.
[04:18:53]  Spiritually equal.
[04:18:54]  Spiritually equal.
[04:18:55]  Because I do think there's a distinction in how mentally.
[04:19:00]  But don't you think that it's important as a couple to become close?
[04:19:04]  And we obviously have clitorises for a reason so that we can also experience it.
[04:19:10]  It's to incentivize reproduction.
[04:19:12]  Okay.
[04:19:13]  But I would also say for women, it doesn't help reproduce for it to be bonding when you get pleasure in it.
[04:19:18]  It's just physical contact, like affection for a woman, which is why the romance industry is so dominant.
[04:19:24]  For a woman, it's how do you give me attention?
[04:19:26]  How do you give me affection?
[04:19:27]  I'll take some.
[04:19:29]  Do you guys recall your champagne cups if you want to pass them down?
[04:19:32]  Actually, that was my first time.
[04:19:33]  I will.
[04:19:35]  I think I put it in there.
[04:19:36]  I didn't have one, so I'll take it for that.
[04:19:37]  You know what?
[04:19:38]  Maybe I just lipstick somewhere.
[04:19:39]  Should I just do who wants champagne?
[04:19:42]  Wait, one, two, three, four.
[04:19:45]  Oh, no, I'm done.
[04:19:46]  Wait, one, two, three, four, five, six.
[04:19:51]  Okay.
[04:19:52]  I'll be back.
[04:19:53]  Continue on with the conversation.
[04:19:55]  What was your name again?
[04:19:56]  Angelica.
[04:19:57]  Angelica.
[04:19:58]  What's your denomination?
[04:19:59]  Orthodox.
[04:20:00]  Ah, okay.
[04:20:00]  Yeah.
[04:20:01]  Easter's next week.
[04:20:02]  But what happened?
[04:20:03]  Romance for a woman, the industry itself, that's the reason it caters to us so much is because we want to feel in love.
[04:20:07]  No little girl is going, you know, whatever.
[04:20:09]  They're playing house, they're playing the romance thing, whatever.
[04:20:13]  When life gives you the punches, you just kind of go, okay, I got to be rugged about it.
[04:20:17]  The big romance industry has been incredibly detrimental to relationships.
[04:20:22]  It's porn.
[04:20:23]  It is.
[04:20:24]  And, like, I'm sorry, but books like 50 Shades of Gray and stuff like that, it's just porn for women.
[04:20:30]  Yeah.
[04:20:30]  It's just that.
[04:20:33]  It's a bit unprejudiced, but that's a whole lot of things.
[04:20:34]  Men are attracted to looks while women are attracted to words.
[04:20:37]  And that's just why we are makeup.
[04:20:40]  Because in erotica, you have all the mini pages detailing the relationship building, the context building, the romance.
[04:20:49]  And so women tend to find that obviously more attractive.
[04:20:53]  But like the whole romance novel, the romance movies, it sells this like a horribly inaccurate idea of what relationship is.
[04:21:00]  They're essentially a lot of people.
[04:21:03]  All these fun novels are direct evidence of why women were not allowed to be authors back in the day.
[04:21:07]  Such a wonderful time.
[04:21:08]  When it comes to what you were saying, it's true, but I would propose the question.
[04:21:11]  For the average woman, is it more important for them to be able to have that climax, or is it more important for them to feel loved and have that affection in the relationship?
[04:21:20]  I agree.
[04:21:21]  When it comes to a man, if you text him okay and you're kind of dry with him, usually they're not going to care because they're just going to take it at face value.
[04:21:27]  But if you're not having sex with him, he's going to feel like you don't actually care about him.
[04:21:30]  Which is a different metric.
[04:21:32]  And I would argue that.
[04:21:34]  Wait, really quick here.
[04:21:35]  Did everybody get their champagne?
[04:21:37]  No.
[04:21:37]  Wait, I was just going to say, I think more women should care about their sexual pleasure.
[04:21:41]  Hold on.
[04:21:42]  I was just going to say that.
[04:21:44]  Cheers to Robert Tanner Selu.
[04:21:48]  Thank you, Robert.
[04:21:51]  Cheers.
[04:21:52]  I want to call Brian a little bit of a feminist.
[04:21:56]  And that is because, can I say why?
[04:21:59]  Giving women orgasms is no.
[04:22:01]  You started off.
[04:22:02]  This is the topic.
[04:22:03]  Better than someone else.
[04:22:04]  This right here is the toxic feminism that's ruining men, is what I want to say.
[04:22:12]  What?
[04:22:12]  When you started off with women want to put themselves on a pedestal and women think that they're queens, la In order for us to feel comfortable with these with men, most women, you have to feel comfortable.
[04:22:25]  And I believe it's a man's duty to make a woman feel comfortable within herself.
[04:22:31]  If I'm giving, now don't judge me for my past, okay?
[04:22:34]  I've obviously changed.
[04:22:36]  But if I'm giving my body, I want to feel safe with said man.
[04:22:39]  And if you're treating me like I'm not, like I'm just disposable and not the queen that you think that we're trying, then I mean, I just think that was a very feminist point of view to say, well, women shouldn't be treated like queens.
[04:22:51]  They put themselves on a pedestal.
[04:22:52]  It's a man's duty to make us feel comfortable.
[04:22:56]  If you want to lead in a relationship, it's a man's duty to lead and lead by making us feel comfortable and safe.
[04:23:03]  Is it not?
[04:23:03]  Oh, you're, hey, princess, you're on a pedestal.
[04:23:06]  It's your duty to make, if you want us to lean in and you want to lead the relationship, which I think men should.
[04:23:12]  Hold on.
[04:23:13]  I'm all about that.
[04:23:13]  Okay.
[04:23:14]  Then you should have that mind.
[04:23:15]  So I can respond.
[04:23:16]  So this is a criticism, correct?
[04:23:19]  Not at all.
[04:23:20]  Wait, hold on.
[04:23:21]  What?
[04:23:22]  Why is it a criticism?
[04:23:25]  Your point is a bit incoherent, but so you said, Brian, you're a feminist.
[04:23:31]  Brian, you're not afraid of me.
[04:23:32]  No, I didn't say that.
[04:23:33]  I said you opened up with a kind of a feminist talking point.
[04:23:37]  Okay, I have a feminist talking point, which are you pro or anti-feminist?
[04:23:42]  Anti-feminist.
[04:23:43]  Okay, so it's a criticism, right?
[04:23:46]  Well, one of the questions before I came on here was, what is something that you believe in that may be a little bit high topic or what I'm paraphrasing?
[04:23:53]  And my response was, I think feminism is ruining society for both men and women, not just women.
[04:23:58]  Okay, totally agree.
[04:23:59]  But what is my feminist point?
[04:24:01]  That we shouldn't be put on pedestals and made to feel like queens.
[04:24:05]  If you want a man to lead, which I think is...
[04:24:07]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[04:24:08]  You disagree with the point I made about women thinking they're queens.
[04:24:14]  Is that you just said women put themselves way too high on a pedestal?
[04:24:19]  If you want to lead a relationship, then it's a man's duty to make a woman feel safe and secure.
[04:24:26]  And if you're wandering around with the attitude of, this woman just thinks she's something she's not, how are you going to lead that relationship?
[04:24:33]  That's the perfect frame.
[04:24:35]  Hold on.
[04:24:35]  Wait, wait, wait.
[04:24:36]  Hold on.
[04:24:36]  What?
[04:24:37]  It's a bit incoherent, but I'll try to parse it.
[04:24:40]  So, okay.
[04:24:41]  I have an objection.
[04:24:44]  I have an objection to women categorizing viewing themselves as queens because I believe it's a bit, it's hubris and it's pride.
[04:24:53]  And it was in the context of women having an overestimation of their attractiveness in the dating marketplace.
[04:25:02]  But it was also a bit of a joke, the queen.
[04:25:06]  Why I think it's cringe to like refer to, like guys who call themselves alpha males super cringe.
[04:25:12]  If they call themselves a king, I guess that's cringe.
[04:25:14]  Women who call themselves, I'm a queen, I'm a boss.
[04:25:17]  Well, that's dumb, too.
[04:25:18]  Yes.
[04:25:18]  That's fucking cringe.
[04:25:19]  But like treating her like a queen.
[04:25:23]  Am I the king in this?
[04:25:25]  If you want, do you, are you in a traditional relationship?
[04:25:28]  If you're not like a queen, you kind of are, though.
[04:25:30]  Yeah, if we're taking care of the home, we're cooking, we're cleaning, we're taking care of your children, we carry your children, and you don't want to treat us like a queen.
[04:25:36]  What does that mean?
[04:25:37]  How does that make us feel safe?
[04:25:38]  Why do I have a teacher?
[04:25:39]  When you use the term queen.
[04:25:41]  I have a duty to treat a woman like a queen.
[04:25:43]  So, okay, first we'd have to, what do we mean by duty?
[04:25:46]  And then what do we mean by queen?
[04:25:48]  Like, I'm not suggesting men should like mistreat women.
[04:25:52]  However, this idea I need to treat a woman like a queen, I think women view it like she's the queen and I'm the fucking dancing.
[04:25:59]  Do we have the fucking meme?
[04:26:01]  Hey, well, pull up the Discord.
[04:26:02]  Go into the Discord and it's in the memes.
[04:26:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[04:26:09]  Go into the resources memes.
[04:26:11]  It's the like two up, two or three up.
[04:26:14]  And there's a GIF, a GIF, a GIF that's like a...
[04:26:18]  Click on that.
[04:26:21]  I knew you were going to put it on.
[04:26:22]  Yeah, click on it.
[04:26:23]  Click on it.
[04:26:24]  And then click on the photo below it.
[04:26:26]  So I think this is what women mean when like, this is dating for men.
[04:26:30]  It's not just the king.
[04:26:31]  It's your fucking jester.
[04:26:33]  And like, I have to perform for the woman who's the queen.
[04:26:36]  Like, this I reject.
[04:26:37]  This is fucking bullshit.
[04:26:39]  Yeah.
[04:26:39]  I completely reject it.
[04:26:41]  So this idea I have a duty to treat a woman like a queen, what does that mean?
[04:26:45]  So is a queen subordinate to the king?
[04:26:48]  For me, the definition of queen is just making her feel safe.
[04:26:51]  Okay, I was just using your words.
[04:26:53]  But I'm just saying making a woman feel safe, making an exaggerated.
[04:26:57]  Yeah, you're the one that brought queen.
[04:26:59]  I'm using your wife.
[04:26:59]  No, you brought queen up.
[04:27:00]  Well, because I'm using your words.
[04:27:01]  We're just like winning around with the word.
[04:27:03]  We don't actually think this man needs to make me worship me.
[04:27:05]  No, he just needs to make me feel safe.
[04:27:07]  He needs to make me feel wanted.
[04:27:09]  He needs to make me feel all of these things.
[04:27:11]  And I think a woman should make her man feel the same way.
[04:27:15]  I'm not saying that it's one way.
[04:27:16]  I think most women wouldn't actually want a man to kind of like act subordinate to her.
[04:27:20]  A woman wouldn't be really into that.
[04:27:21]  Right.
[04:27:22]  If a guy's over here saying, oh, who do you think you are?
[04:27:24]  Like, you're just here to make babies and that's it.
[04:27:27]  Like, is that going to make a woman want to be in relation?
[04:27:29]  It's so hard to parse this because it's like all over the place, but it is.
[04:27:33]  So what is.
[04:27:35]  Right.
[04:27:35]  That's what I'm saying.
[04:27:36]  You want women to be submissive, but then you think that women shouldn't be put on a pedestal.
[04:27:40]  Yeah, women should not be put on the pedestal.
[04:27:43]  I think you can be submissive.
[04:27:43]  That's kind of feminine.
[04:27:45]  How is that feminine?
[04:27:46]  Wait, most women want the submissive.
[04:27:48]  No, it's actually the feminist, the male feminist, the male feminists are the one who pedestalize women.
[04:27:54]  It's the soy boy, the liberal men who pedestalize women.
[04:27:58]  That's like fake feminists.
[04:27:59]  Yeah, I don't actually think that at all.
[04:28:02]  Yeah.
[04:28:03]  Wait, a rejection.
[04:28:04]  I mean, hold on.
[04:28:07]  So there's a bit of a nuance here insofar as like in some ways you'll see from both a feminist perspective but also a almost a conservative perspective a pedestalization of women, which I personally object to.
[04:28:23]  So I don't believe that women should be pedestalized.
[04:28:27]  Now of course you should treat your girlfriend or wife, you should treat her well, you should take care of her.
[04:28:33]  You should be a good boyfriend to be a good husband, but a rejection of pedestalization.
[04:28:43]  I don't think is I think the language around relationships are all dysfunctional, where it's like people say, what do I want?
[04:28:48]  What do I want?
[04:28:49]  What do I want?
[04:28:49]  But a nature of a relationship is self-sacrificial.
[04:28:52]  It's supposed to be what can I provide?
[04:28:53]  What can I provide?
[04:28:54]  And when you have that lens, you can have discernment to tell if someone else is going to be a bad bet or if they're going to be someone that can compliment your giving and say, I can basically fit you in this way that a puzzle piece could.
[04:29:06]  Also, when it comes to pedestalization, I think this, and I think others would agree with me, if a man acted like he was like worshiping me and I was on this pedestal, it would be kind of like unattractive.

=== Million Dollar Value Proposition (02:46) ===

[04:29:15]  Yeah.
[04:29:15]  Yeah, it would kind of give me the attachment style too.
[04:29:20]  Whenever I'm dating someone, I kind of am very codependent.
[04:29:23]  And so when another man's codependent, we're always just kind of very mushy together.
[04:29:26]  But if he's like avoidant.
[04:29:28]  Just to wrap up on the original topic, you asked the question of why do I ask the question?
[04:29:37]  I don't know if that was a satisfactory answer.
[04:29:39]  That was great.
[04:29:41]  I mean, I think we just had different, like when you said, this is how women should be treated.
[04:29:45]  I agree with you.
[04:29:46]  I was talking to her.
[04:29:47]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[04:29:47]  I'm sorry.
[04:29:49]  But so was there anything like further disagreement?
[04:29:54]  Do you think that maybe there's an understanding as to why I asked the question or did I not?
[04:30:00]  No, I get it.
[04:30:01]  I get it.
[04:30:02]  I was just genuinely curious.
[04:30:03]  Yeah, I mean, I do think it is the case that, you know, I think a lot of women, not all women, but a lot of women do think that they are more attractive than they actually are.
[04:30:16]  And this is going to, they're going to select a mate.
[04:30:20]  Like, I guess I would frame it like this.
[04:30:23]  Like, let's say you think your house is worth $5 million, but it's only worth a million.
[04:30:30]  No buyers.
[04:30:31]  Maybe you might get some people who come and do a viewing.
[04:30:35]  They might walk through it.
[04:30:38]  They ain't going to buy the house.
[04:30:40]  You might run through it, too.
[04:30:41]  They might run through it.
[04:30:42]  This entire school with men, too, though.
[04:30:44]  Do you feel like men have a tendency to rate themselves higher or not?
[04:30:48]  Not to the same degree.
[04:30:50]  There are certainly men who are delusional.
[04:30:52]  There are definitely men who aren't kind of aware of their standing.
[04:30:58]  Do you think money and status make them delusional?
[04:31:01]  We're right.
[04:31:02]  Well, that would be a different value proposition.
[04:31:04]  But I think there's like a total, you can do like a assessment in totality.
[04:31:10]  So it's like, okay, well, if you're an average-looking guy, but your personality is stellar and you're super rich and all these other things, that might bolster you a little bit.
[04:31:20]  But actually, you know, interestingly enough, I actually think there's like massive amounts of discrepancy in the dating marketplace where like, for example, like the CEO of a billion-dollar company, say he's in like his mid-30s or whatever, he's going to have a harder time dating than the like good-looking secretary.
[04:31:38]  Like that's, that's the dating marketplace where like you could have the CEO of a major billion-dollar corporation who's making millions and millions of dollars a year, maybe like eight figures, who has a harder dating life than a fucking, like maybe let's say like a seven secretary.
[04:31:56]  Have we seen Sam Altman's girlfriend?
[04:31:58]  Who?
[04:31:58]  Sam Altman's girlfriend?
[04:31:59]  If not, is she.

=== Sam Altman Dating Life (02:47) ===

[04:32:01]  Can we get this pulled up?
[04:32:02]  Can we Google the girlfriend?
[04:32:05]  While you're doing that, Shona, can you read this?
[04:32:08]  What's the name?
[04:32:10]  Okay.
[04:32:10]  Sam Altman.
[04:32:12]  Just Sam Altman girlfriends will give you the.
[04:32:15]  Should I read it?
[04:32:15]  Yeah.
[04:32:16]  Any real man knows if a woman is faking.
[04:32:19]  Sorry, but women can't fake an org without a guy knowing.
[04:32:22]  Most just don't care as long as they get theirs.
[04:32:24]  Brian, what the F is this pod?
[04:32:26]  You showed your hand, not your usual stuff.
[04:32:28]  IDK, but I've been following for a couple years now with Rachel last.
[04:32:31]  Yeah, that's a total vague post.
[04:32:35]  What hand did I show that you object?
[04:32:38]  What the fuck is this?
[04:32:39]  What is your actual conclusion?
[04:32:41]  You actually disagreed with that.
[04:32:42]  You actually disagreed with that comment.
[04:32:45]  Wait, what?
[04:32:45]  I said you disagreed when we said women fake orgasms.
[04:32:48]  You disagreed with that comment.
[04:32:49]  And he just said, what are you talking about?
[04:32:51]  I don't even know if that's what he's referencing, the fake orgasm thing as it relates to you showed your hand, not your usual stuff.
[04:33:00]  What does that even mean?
[04:33:01]  Well, I don't know that you showed your hand.
[04:33:03]  And I don't think I actually.
[04:33:04]  Yeah, no, you didn't.
[04:33:05]  Wait, what?
[04:33:06]  I don't think the chatter's referencing the orgasm in that part of the chat.
[04:33:09]  Okay.
[04:33:10]  Yeah.
[04:33:11]  Okay.
[04:33:11]  Oh, my God.
[04:33:12]  I'm just surprised we referenced a question made three hours ago.
[04:33:15]  I was like, the whole conversation was because of the question.
[04:33:18]  That was crazy.
[04:33:19]  Downdraft.
[04:33:19]  Thank you for the super chat, though.
[04:33:20]  I have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
[04:33:22]  And that only came in like 10 minutes ago.
[04:33:24]  So thank you, though.
[04:33:25]  Reminders, guys, $10 display.
[04:33:27]  Oops, what the heck did I just do?
[04:33:29]  $100 read, $200 TTS, Vemmo Cash App with EverPod.
[04:33:32]  Pull up Twitch really quick, and then we'll do the Sam Altman thing.
[04:33:35]  It was Sigmund Freed, by the way.
[04:33:36]  The FTX scandal.
[04:33:38]  Oh, okay.
[04:33:39]  Crypto scandal, yeah.
[04:33:40]  Yo, guys, I need, we have 1,200 watching on Twitch.
[04:33:43]  Guys, drop us a Twitch follow and a Twitch Prime sub.
[04:33:47]  Drop us a Prime sub.
[04:33:48]  Guys, it's been an hour since we last got the Prime sub.
[04:33:50]  I think it's bugged, boys.
[04:33:51]  Can somebody just like test it out and maybe see if it's working?
[04:33:54]  I think it's bugged.
[04:33:55]  So if somebody can just clear up the like something's wrong with Twitch, maybe just try to clear it up.
[04:34:00]  I think if you just, somebody just sends in the Prime, it'll like fix it or whatever.
[04:34:04]  Something will get fixed.
[04:34:05]  You know, sometimes you just, you know, it's like with your computer, sometimes you just got to restart it.
[04:34:11]  Sometimes you just got to send in the Prime sub and it fixes the, you know, sometimes you just got to smack the printer and it'll start working or whatever.
[04:34:19]  Anyways, there it is.
[04:34:20]  Saturday.
[04:34:21]  Thank you for the Prime.
[04:34:22]  Appreciate it.
[04:34:23]  Also, guys, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video, please.
[04:34:26]  Where are we on the likes?
[04:34:27]  Let me see if I can hold people hostage on the like.
[04:34:31]  I think we're, hold on.
[04:34:32]  We are at 2,200 likes.
[04:34:37]  Let's get it to 3,000 likes.
[04:34:40]  We got 5,600 on YouTube.
[04:34:41]  Guys, get us to 3,000 likes, please.
[04:34:44]  Get us to 3,000 likes over there on YouTube if you're enjoying the stream.

=== Male Prostitutes Exploitation (03:12) ===

[04:34:48]  Do you have the thing for the girlfriend or whatever?
[04:34:51]  Sam Altman is gay.
[04:34:52]  No, Sigmund Fried at the FTX.
[04:34:54]  Okay, crypto.
[04:34:55]  Is she hot or something?
[04:34:57]  Opposite.
[04:34:57]  Yeah, but he's not.
[04:34:58]  He's a billionaire.
[04:34:58]  He's not.
[04:34:59]  Yeah, but he's like, isn't he super autistic and ugly?
[04:35:03]  He is.
[04:35:03]  He is.
[04:35:04]  That's a good point.
[04:35:05]  I feel like most billionaires are.
[04:35:06]  Yeah.
[04:35:07]  Yeah.
[04:35:08]  Can we also point out that men use women for money too?
[04:35:12]  Whoa, what?
[04:35:13]  It's true.
[04:35:14]  No, it's true.
[04:35:14]  It's so true.
[04:35:15]  It's so true.
[04:35:16]  Okay, so look, look.
[04:35:19]  Okay, but we're talking in generalities here.
[04:35:22]  So, like, are there male prostitutes?
[04:35:25]  Yes.
[04:35:25]  Not prostitutes.
[04:35:26]  No, I know, but I'm like, I'm using an other example to articulate my point.
[04:35:30]  Do male prostitutes exist for women?
[04:35:33]  Yes, but it's super rare.
[04:35:36]  So like, yeah, there are men who use women for money.
[04:35:39]  There are women who are sugar mamas or whatever.
[04:35:42]  But like the ratio of sugar daddy to sugar mama has to be like for every thousand sugar daddy, there's one sugar mama.
[04:35:51]  But do myself.
[04:35:51]  Well, I'm not talking about sugar.
[04:35:54]  Sure.
[04:35:54]  Yeah, obviously.
[04:35:55]  Well, that's manipulative and deceptive.
[04:35:56]  The same way makeup is manipulative and deceptive.
[04:35:58]  It's like you're not.
[04:35:59]  And I'm not telling a girl to get her into bed.
[04:36:01]  She's lying to you to get you into a relationship or to get you into a date.
[04:36:04]  Men should not misrepresent their intentions to get laid.
[04:36:07]  100%.
[04:36:07]  I feel like again, wrong values.
[04:36:09]  I feel like women do.
[04:36:10]  A woman using a man for money is just as bad as a man using a woman for sex.
[04:36:13]  Yeah, I agree entirely with that point.
[04:36:15]  I agree with you.
[04:36:16]  Absolutely.
[04:36:17]  A woman using a man for money is just as bad as a man using a woman for sex.
[04:36:20]  Yes.
[04:36:20]  I think that's ridiculous.
[04:36:21]  I think it's worse for the man to use a woman for sex.
[04:36:23]  Why is it ridiculous?
[04:36:25]  Well, because women should actually care about a man's status and how much he can provide.
[04:36:29]  What do you mean, like if a woman is using a man?
[04:36:31]  If her only intention with that man is to exploit him, purely, that's wrong.
[04:36:35]  Same way that if a man's not having any intention to be a man, exploitation.
[04:36:39]  Okay, that's true.
[04:36:40]  You probably need to specify that.
[04:36:41]  There's always a joke.
[04:36:42]  There's a joke going around that says no one falls in love harder than a broke dude.
[04:36:47]  It's true.
[04:36:49]  And I'm saying that because I'm not a millionaire, but I've had a very successful career, and I usually make more money than the men that I date.
[04:36:57]  And, you know, they liked the fact that I worked for corporate America and then I traveled the world.
[04:37:03]  I'm going to do that.
[04:37:04]  Men like that and travel the world.
[04:37:05]  I'm going to counter argue on this.
[04:37:07]  I'm like, women, women are 100% responsible.
[04:37:08]  And they want to come.
[04:37:10]  Women are 100% responsible for the dating choices that they make.
[04:37:13]  That's statistically true.
[04:37:15]  But why is it that so many good men are considered boring?
[04:37:18]  But when it comes to broke men, as you've been mentioning, that are exploitative, they get girls.
[04:37:22]  So it's like...
[04:37:23]  Because they're manipulative.
[04:37:24]  Well, it's not just manipulative.
[04:37:25]  It's like you're not looking for the right value system.
[04:37:28]  Women are not oriented or educated correctly.
[04:37:30]  If you're looking for a man, as you've mentioned, that has resources, is going to be a good father, is going to be a good husband, has the good character traits and quality.
[04:37:37]  Why is it so common for women to complain about men that have taken advantage of them, exploited them, that have basically used them for X, Y, and Z?
[04:37:44]  They were looking at things superficially.
[04:37:46]  They weren't looking at the things that actually matter.
[04:37:49]  But if they were looking for that, they wouldn't have been deceived.
[04:37:52]  Wait, sometimes if they were carried away with their emotions, that's easier for them to basically be blindsided by all these negative thoughts.
[04:37:59]  Men will give a woman guy for money type thing.

=== Identical Twin Brothers (15:02) ===

[04:38:01]  Wait, what happened?
[04:38:02]  Saying that you're more down to earth, so you didn't pick him for money, you didn't pick him for his looks.
[04:38:05]  It's that kind of thing.
[04:38:06]  Kind of, yeah, but that's kind of like the cope that women use post doing an experience like that.
[04:38:12]  What I'm saying is they're not looking for the qualities that are going to make a good husband, a good family, good, whatever.
[04:38:18]  They're basically looking for a man that provokes an emotional reaction out of them, whether it's excitement or anxiety, much like men are looking for women that provokes lust out of them.
[04:38:26]  It's the same animalistic impulse that is destroying both people's lives.
[04:38:30]  I would say, though, I feel like sometimes, not even just sometimes, a lot of the times it is the case that a man will do everything right, show all these green flags, and then blindside a woman and just use her anyway.
[04:38:39]  Or be in a committed relationship.
[04:38:40]  And then you're saying it's like lucky.
[04:38:42]  I still think you can tell when a man is doing it out of just one eye.
[04:38:46]  Not always.
[04:38:46]  Not always.
[04:38:47]  Way to see.
[04:38:48]  I feel like it heard it to be so common.
[04:38:50]  Yeah, so anyways, moving on.
[04:38:52]  Nathan, let's pull up the React that we have.
[04:38:54]  This is something I saw go viral.
[04:38:57]  Alan Roach, thank you for the super chat, man.
[04:38:59]  Appreciate it.
[04:39:02]  Hide that.
[04:39:03]  Okay, so you know what?
[04:39:05]  Tab over to the image so it's bigger.
[04:39:09]  All right.
[04:39:10]  Okay, scroll down a bit.
[04:39:12]  So, Shona, can I have you?
[04:39:14]  Can you mouse wheel zoom it in?
[04:39:18]  That's good.
[04:39:18]  Yeah.
[04:39:19]  Can I have you read everything?
[04:39:21]  Just starting with the title.
[04:39:23]  Woman who slept with twins days apart told baby's dad can't be identified.
[04:39:28]  The woman reportedly had sex with the two brothers within four days of each other.
[04:39:32]  A court has ruled that it cannot be determined who the biological father of a woman's child is after she slept with identical twin brothers in short succession of one another.
[04:39:41]  The mother and one of the twin brothers took the case to court after the other brother was named on the baby's birth certificate.
[04:39:47]  Well, we'll leave it there.
[04:39:48]  So basically what happened is a woman was, I guess, dating an identical twin, and then she was having sex with both of them, unbeknownst to them.
[04:40:02]  Is this real?
[04:40:03]  Is this a real organization?
[04:40:04]  Oh, it is, honestly.
[04:40:06]  How is this even?
[04:40:07]  This is way more.
[04:40:07]  This is way more, not in specific case, but this is kind of more common.
[04:40:11]  I would not, like, in the history of identical twins.
[04:40:16]  They did.
[04:40:17]  She was the dating of both of them.
[04:40:18]  The partner has definitely fucked both the twins.
[04:40:21]  But so she gets pregnant.
[04:40:23]  She gets pregnant.
[04:40:25]  And I guess there's going to be like, okay, well, how do you determine like who is the father?
[04:40:30]  Because the DNA is the same, right?
[04:40:32]  So they can't actually make a DNA determination as to who's the father.
[04:40:36]  She slept with the both of them in like the same time period.
[04:40:39]  So it's like, what is the solution?
[04:40:42]  Maybe legal experts watching in the chat.
[04:40:45]  What is the actual legal solution?
[04:40:47]  Do they, I think you cannot, if you cannot make an accurate determination as to which one is the father, like let's say if she wanted to get child support, I think you have to let both of them off the hook for child support.
[04:41:02]  Wait, can we back up?
[04:41:03]  I'm not going to say that.
[04:41:04]  One of the brothers wanted to actually take care of the kid.
[04:41:07]  That's what I read.
[04:41:08]  Oh, is this her twins?
[04:41:09]  Like identical.
[04:41:12]  And I think one of them actually was going to be responsible, even though he doesn't know if he's actually the father.
[04:41:17]  Like one of them was like, all right, I'll take the blame.
[04:41:19]  Yeah, I mean, we could reframe the example in any sort of way.
[04:41:22]  You know, which, let's say, one of them wants the custody, but let's say, how about neither of them wants the kid, right?
[04:41:32]  So they're not going to willingly pay child support.
[04:41:35]  Can the court force, like, which one do they force to pay the child support, assuming neither of them want to pay child support?
[04:41:45]  I have a question.
[04:41:47]  Did both of these twins know that they were having sexual relations with her?
[04:41:51]  Or is she like a child?
[04:41:51]  No, she was cheating.
[04:41:52]  Okay, but I think that's on her.
[04:41:53]  I think she should help me.
[04:41:54]  I think what happened, I read a lot about it.
[04:41:57]  I read a lot about it.
[04:41:58]  Supposedly, she was dating one, and then kind of like, you know, this person, she broke up with one of the brothers, and then a couple of days after, kind of like she getting back to this person, she just lay with the brother.
[04:42:10]  Yeah, basically that's what happened.
[04:42:12]  I do think maybe that's a mental disorder if they're identical.
[04:42:15]  Wait, wait, let's stick on topic here.
[04:42:16]  Let's stick on topic.
[04:42:17]  The question is, the question is, in an instance where neither brother wants to have any sort of involvement with the child, should one, both of them, or neither of them pay child support?
[04:42:31]  Either brother.
[04:42:32]  By the way, you had something on that.
[04:42:33]  Yeah, I think the best answer here would be one of them.
[04:42:36]  And the way to reach this would be look at her last period, try to time the ovulation and figure out who is most likely.
[04:42:42]  Like, come up with some number where it'd be like, okay, you're 80% likely the father.
[04:42:46]  You're 20% likely the father.
[04:42:47]  The 80% would be responsible.
[04:42:49]  So just look at her last period.
[04:42:50]  Look at what's...
[04:42:51]  What do you mean that's not possible?
[04:42:52]  Because bodies don't work that way.
[04:42:53]  Instead of staying in your body, you can't prefer a lot of water.
[04:42:57]  I'm quite certain if one man had sex four days before she ovulated and another man had sex the day she ovulated, it's more likely.
[04:43:03]  Conception dates are also variable.
[04:43:05]  Women's body is aware of the same thing.
[04:43:06]  I'm saying you look at what's more likely.
[04:43:08]  I'm not saying it's 100%.
[04:43:09]  I'm saying something's more likely.
[04:43:10]  I would say when it comes to child support, it shouldn't be allowed unless the man was negligent, abusive, or some form of provable malfeasance.
[04:43:19]  Otherwise, it's 50-50 custody if he wants it.
[04:43:21]  And if not, it's 100% custody to basically discourage women from doing situations like this, where it's like you're not going to get child support from a man that you unethically behaved with.
[04:43:31]  Well, actually, I think she should get child support from neither of them.
[04:43:33]  She just needs to marry one of them.
[04:43:34]  I think that would be the best thing.
[04:43:35]  She would marry a woman that had sex with your brother.
[04:43:37]  I think she's a pay.
[04:43:39]  They don't want to marry her.
[04:43:40]  They don't have to pay child support.
[04:43:42]  She's a good person.
[04:43:42]  I guess you'd be cuckmaxing at that point, but like maxing to the maximum.
[04:43:48]  That's her loss right there.
[04:43:50]  The second brother in the situation.
[04:43:51]  She should marry the second brother, the last man.
[04:43:53]  Actually, any woman should marry the last man that she wants to do.
[04:43:56]  Why would they want to marry with her, though?
[04:43:57]  Are you incentivizing a woman who's made a poor choice to then get financial compensation for it if it's your body, your choice, as it is in the system?
[04:44:03]  No, I think the best option is that her child is for her.
[04:44:06]  The best option here is for the woman to marry the man she last had sex with, and that applies to every woman.
[04:44:11]  That would be a punishment to that man, though.
[04:44:13]  Thank you.
[04:44:13]  Because what if he doesn't want to be with her anymore?
[04:44:14]  Well, then he shouldn't be hooking up with women.
[04:44:17]  He shouldn't be doing that.
[04:44:18]  He didn't know it was an infidelity case.
[04:44:19]  And as for the other guy, I mean, perhaps yeah, no, no, it doesn't matter.
[04:44:22]  No, if a man has sex with a woman, he should marry her.
[04:44:25]  I think the brother who betrayed his brother should marry that woman and then support the child, regardless.
[04:44:30]  I think he agrees with that.
[04:44:31]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[04:44:32]  The second one.
[04:44:32]  Okay.
[04:44:33]  Yeah.
[04:44:33]  Yeah.
[04:44:33]  That's not exactly what I'm saying.
[04:44:34]  But not because of that, but because she.
[04:44:36]  Okay.
[04:44:37]  But because him and her essentially have a soul bond because they slept together, especially on her end.
[04:44:41]  Women are very emotionally attached to the man that they have sex with due to reasons of like, I don't know, nine months of pregnancy.
[04:44:46]  Not always, unfortunately.
[04:44:47]  Okay.
[04:44:47]  But like on average, okay?
[04:44:49]  We're talking about averages here.
[04:44:50]  I don't even think, oh, but what about this?
[04:44:51]  I don't know.
[04:44:51]  I don't care.
[04:44:51]  You're good, you're good.
[04:44:53]  She should marry the man who actually, oh, to put it simple, the man should marry the woman who is the second man.
[04:45:00]  I would actually argue when it comes to sex, it is soul bonding, but only in the context of someone that's building a family.
[04:45:05]  That's why when infidelity, the reason it's so destructive is because it destroys lives rather than creates it.
[04:45:10]  If you're conceiving something in infidelity, it's almost like this is a perversion of the ordered situation.
[04:45:15]  I mean, if a woman is having casual sex, it's still somewhat soul binding.
[04:45:19]  Which is why it destroys them.
[04:45:20]  But I also argue that you're exchanging energy 100%.
[04:45:22]  And it could be bad.
[04:45:23]  But I also argue that.
[04:45:23]  You're not exchanging energy.
[04:45:25]  It's not some mystical crystal bullshit, okay?
[04:45:27]  It's like the woman subconsciously is wanting to be with the man because she wants to be.
[04:45:31]  It's a spiritual thing.
[04:45:32]  There are demons in people that you could exchange.
[04:45:35]  Yeah, you have sex, you exchange energy.
[04:45:39]  Yeah.
[04:45:41]  There are spirit energies.
[04:45:43]  Well, energy, spirit.
[04:45:45]  Whatever you want to call it.
[04:45:46]  What is somebody else?
[04:45:47]  What it comes down to.
[04:45:49]  What it comes down to is a woman wants to be with the man that she just had sex with because she might be pregnant from him and she needs that man to provide for her.
[04:45:55]  True.
[04:45:56]  True, but at the same time, when you're dead, I'm actually one of the people.
[04:45:59]  That is biologically wise.
[04:46:00]  That is why it is embedded in a woman's brain to be sexually, or sorry, to be emotionally attracted to a man that she has sex with.
[04:46:05]  Well, man, it doesn't matter.
[04:46:06]  Because for him to reproduce, it takes 5, 10, 15 minutes, whatever.
[04:46:09]  For a woman, it takes nine months and most likely at least 15 years after that for them to successfully reproduce.
[04:46:14]  They have to take care of that kid.
[04:46:16]  You know what?
[04:46:16]  I retract my point.
[04:46:17]  I entirely agree with you.
[04:46:18]  If you have a child out of wedlock, both of you are responsible for that.
[04:46:21]  I completely overthought it.
[04:46:22]  You're right.
[04:46:23]  Well, that's what knock on weddings used to be.
[04:46:26]  I mean, I don't collect child support from either of my baby daddies, and it's because they're both involved and they pay like for our kids.
[04:46:35]  But this is an example of they don't want to be involved.
[04:46:37]  So if they don't want to be involved, I would say legally.
[04:46:40]  Yes, they should legally be biased.
[04:46:42]  They should legally be like, for example, in Arkansas, like just, I'm just giving an example for my state.
[04:46:46]  They like, I feel like they get into people's business too much and they force, like when couples that are breaking up don't want the child support or they want to like, or they would just want to figure it out themselves.
[04:46:56]  They literally force, and it's like 50-50 custody.
[04:46:59]  They force people.
[04:47:00]  Yeah, they force people to pay child support.
[04:47:03]  And actually, in my instance with my youngest, I was going to be the one.
[04:47:06]  I paid all the child.
[04:47:07]  I paid all the child care.
[04:47:09]  I pay everything.
[04:47:10]  And I was still going to have to owe him $1,500 a month.
[04:47:13]  And I had him, I have him 60% of the time.
[04:47:16]  But we're cool.
[04:47:18]  Yeah.
[04:47:18]  We're cool.
[04:47:19]  And we just worked it out.
[04:47:21]  And we just worked it out.
[04:47:22]  And I have more custody.
[04:47:24]  But we're cool and we worked it out.
[04:47:25]  My ex-husband is, I think, a millionaire.
[04:47:29]  And I could rake him through the coals.
[04:47:31]  But he's an active father.
[04:47:33]  He pays for things.
[04:47:34]  It's good.
[04:47:35]  Is he an active husband?
[04:47:36]  Was he an active husband?
[04:47:37]  No, we were really young and he was really stupid.
[04:47:39]  He's busy right now, though.
[04:47:40]  To his wife?
[04:47:41]  No, to you.
[04:47:42]  We're not married.
[04:47:43]  He got married.
[04:47:44]  He got remarried.
[04:47:45]  We were really young.
[04:47:46]  He was young.
[04:47:46]  We were stupid.
[04:47:47]  22 years old.
[04:47:48]  Why would you not stay married?
[04:47:49]  Because he cheated.
[04:47:50]  Because he cheated on me.
[04:47:51]  Do you think that created a large effect for your children, though?
[04:47:53]  But if you're cheating on someone who's not a man, if you're cheating, I don't want diseases.
[04:47:57]  That's fair.
[04:47:57]  I found condoms when I was pregnant.
[04:47:59]  Like, I don't want diseases for me or my baby.
[04:48:01]  That's not that.
[04:48:03]  Yeah, and it happened a lot.
[04:48:05]  And I just said to myself, I don't want my children to watch this.
[04:48:08]  You know, he was hopping out the window.
[04:48:09]  I'm taking care of a newborn to go.
[04:48:11]  I was abused.
[04:48:11]  What happened?
[04:48:12]  What?
[04:48:13]  Yeah.
[04:48:14]  I just heard.
[04:48:15]  I said, I don't want to get.
[04:48:16]  He said, why did you bring up a daughter?
[04:48:17]  He's got diseases.
[04:48:17]  And then no, why did you divorce your husband?
[04:48:19]  It's a lot bigger than that.
[04:48:20]  He asked me why I brought, and I said, I kept getting cheated on, and I don't want diseases.
[04:48:24]  Oh, yeah.
[04:48:25]  So that was the concern of him cheating was the diseases?
[04:48:28]  Valid.
[04:48:28]  That's probably not being a big concern for you.
[04:48:30]  You want AIDS?
[04:48:32]  No, but that was the concern.
[04:48:33]  Oh, it was one of my hundred years.
[04:48:35]  Not the fact that he's sexually.
[04:48:37]  That's true.
[04:48:39]  That's what's important.
[04:48:40]  Yeah.
[04:48:40]  He also abused me.
[04:48:41]  He was on steroids.
[04:48:44]  I don't really want him to get mad at me, but just like that.
[04:48:47]  He probably had a pornography addiction if he was cheating on you.
[04:48:49]  He did.
[04:48:49]  Yeah, exactly.
[04:48:50]  That's the perfect.
[04:48:51]  You don't think pornography should be that hook.
[04:48:53]  Here, pull up that pinch.
[04:48:54]  Well, we're friends, and I did let him off the hook.
[04:48:56]  He doesn't pay child support.
[04:48:57]  Shona, could you read this?
[04:48:59]  I disagree with great power to unilaterally decide if a child is even born or not comes great responsibility to unilaterally take care of the child.
[04:49:08]  Sure, he can help if he wants to, but that doesn't make it his responsibility nor the government's responsibility.
[04:49:13]  This is a black guy saying that's what I was going to say.
[04:49:15]  I was not even going to say it.
[04:49:17]  I'm like, obviously, well, but I just want to say that for Riley.
[04:49:22]  Yeah.
[04:49:22]  I don't know.
[04:49:23]  It's animation for me.
[04:49:25]  If she fucked identical twins, I think they get.
[04:49:28]  You got to let them.
[04:49:29]  What about?
[04:49:29]  Ooh, wait, wait, wait.
[04:49:31]  What about this?
[04:49:32]  And I'm sure this has been posed in like legal classes, philosophy classes.
[04:49:37]  There's two identical twins.
[04:49:39]  One of them commits a murder and they find DNA at the crime scene.
[04:49:42]  Oh, my God.
[04:49:43]  That's hard.
[04:49:44]  So they know it's one of them, but and assume like there's a fingerprints different though and twins?
[04:49:53]  Fingerprints are different.
[04:49:54]  Yeah.
[04:49:54]  But it's DNA.
[04:49:55]  Let's say, yeah.
[04:49:56]  It's not.
[04:49:57]  Let's say they found some.
[04:49:58]  That happened with the O.J. Simpson case where it was the father and the son, and that's why they couldn't verify the DNA.
[04:50:03]  Where it was most likely the son that killed Nicole Brown, but they then blame the father and that's why the glove didn't fit was because it was his son who did it.
[04:50:09]  He had like a whole history of mental illness.
[04:50:11]  We're not this would go on for 48 hours.
[04:50:14]  Okay.
[04:50:14]  OJ Simpson.
[04:50:16]  Yeah, yeah.
[04:50:16]  I was born the day he was saying.
[04:50:19]  Nice.
[04:50:20]  Congratulations.
[04:50:22]  Thank you, Mr. Northumberland, for the super chat.
[04:50:24]  $10 display, $100 read, $200 TTS.
[04:50:28]  If you two would like to get a message in there.
[04:50:32]  But yeah, I think if there's, well, yeah, in the case of the murder, if all you have is the DNA and you don't have any further evidence and assume that because both of them are in peril because of this incriminating evidence, it would incriminate both of them, even though only one of them did it.
[04:50:53]  Because both of them are in peril and assume they, you know, one of them didn't cooperate or whatever.
[04:51:01]  Because it is your right in the United States to you, you have no duty to like self-incriminate.
[04:51:06]  You can plead the fifth.
[04:51:08]  You don't have to cooperate.
[04:51:09]  So they're just like, okay, we're not going to, whatever.
[04:51:12]  We're not going to give you anything.
[04:51:14]  So they just have the DNA.
[04:51:15]  I think in that instance, I think legally, right, they might still do a trial.
[04:51:22]  Perhaps, I don't know if they put both of them on trial, but I think you would probably arrive at having to acquit both of them.
[04:51:30]  Yeah.
[04:51:31]  I don't know.
[04:51:32]  Anyways, well, innocent until proven guilty, if you want to go back to the bottom of the circumstantial evidence that positions one twin at one location and the other twin with cell phone.
[04:51:40]  But if the only evidence was DNA, there's a rape, all that's left is come.
[04:51:44]  Like, that's all you got.
[04:51:46]  I mean, the trial would find out like motive and stuff.
[04:51:48]  They would still take it.
[04:51:49]  Let's say two brothers are bar hopping.
[04:51:51]  Two twins.
[04:51:53]  Let's just say one of them.
[04:51:54]  Just use murder.
[04:51:55]  I don't want to Excuse the murder.
[04:51:57]  The murder one.
[04:51:58]  Just murder.
[04:51:59]  Yeah, just the murder.
[04:52:01]  Oh, so we're talking at the end of the case.
[04:52:03]  Are we deciding if it's acquitted?
[04:52:04]  If they found nothing else throughout the trial, it would be acquitted, yeah.
[04:52:08]  There'd be a point.
[04:52:09]  Well, I think that if you only found DNA, but it wasn't a twin, that would be enough of a basis, I think, to, well, I don't know.
[04:52:21]  I'm not a fucking criminal legal expert or whatever, so I don't, criminal law, I don't know.
[04:52:27]  Probably, even if you do find someone's DNA, you probably need some other degree of evidence to get a guilty verdict.
[04:52:35]  I don't know.
[04:52:35]  Anyways, it's kind of depends on the state.
[04:52:37]  It's all right.
[04:52:38]  Anyways, moving on.
[04:52:39]  Moving on.
[04:52:39]  Moving on.
[04:52:42]  Okay, here we're going to get to the questionnaire.
[04:52:44]  What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
[04:52:47]  Six figures, assuming I'm also making that much.
[04:52:49]  Yeah, but that's vague.
[04:52:50]  That's anywhere from $100,000 to $999,000.
[04:52:52]  That's the minimum, I said.
[04:52:54]  So $100,000 would be the minimum.
[04:52:56]  Okay.
[04:52:56]  It doesn't really matter.
[04:52:59]  Okay, hide the super chat, please.
[04:53:01]  Thank you for your super chat.
[04:53:03]  It doesn't matter.

=== Surrogacy And Consent (12:13) ===

[04:53:04]  So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's.
[04:53:05]  Do you have a kid?
[04:53:07]  I have two girls, but I mean...
[04:53:08]  You're married, right?
[04:53:09]  I'm married, and I'm a business owner, so I mean, I really don't care how much they got to do that.
[04:53:14]  What about you?
[04:53:15]  $100,000, just because that's what my husband makes.
[04:53:18]  Okay, what about you?
[04:53:19]  Thanks.
[04:53:20]  I mean, I wrote $35,000, but that's actually a lie because my current partner makes less.
[04:53:27]  So I guess the minimum would be a lot more.
[04:53:29]  What about you?
[04:53:30]  I'm married, but $50,000.
[04:53:32]  Yeah, next.
[04:53:33]  I put down $80,000, but I kind of want to switch it to $60,000 because it just seems more realistic.
[04:53:39]  I didn't put down a number because I was thinking of it depends on where we're living at and how much would be like the basic to be able to take care of a family.
[04:53:48]  So where we live at right now, I'd say like $60,000.
[04:53:51]  Yeah.
[04:53:52]  Okay.
[04:53:53]  Yeah, I actually agree with that.
[04:53:55]  I didn't put down a number either.
[04:53:56]  You don't have one.
[04:53:57]  Also, Hannah, I wouldn't say who, but I noticed on your Instagram story, you were taking photos with a man.
[04:54:04]  Is that just like a friend or?
[04:54:06]  That was my little brother.
[04:54:07]  Oh, that's your brother.
[04:54:08]  Okay.
[04:54:09]  I was like, is that you're on a little vacation with a.
[04:54:12]  Okay.
[04:54:14]  You don't have one, so you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's then?
[04:54:17]  No.
[04:54:18]  Okay.
[04:54:18]  But I've dated a police officer and I've dated somebody who owns a very successful company.
[04:54:24]  So I don't have a minimum.
[04:54:25]  But I mean, police officers can make good money.
[04:54:28]  They can make, I mean, they can make $50,000.
[04:54:31]  They can't survive, right?
[04:54:32]  They average like $65K.
[04:54:34]  It's not that, like, I don't see that as a lot of money, but I don't have a minimum.
[04:54:38]  Okay.
[04:54:39]  What about you?
[04:54:40]  I think I put $60K.
[04:54:42]  Okay, next.
[04:54:43]  I put $60K, and as long as they're not relying on me for anything.
[04:54:48]  Dating, obviously, if we're married and things happen, but dating, as long as they're not relying on me financially, then Angelica?
[04:54:54]  I put down $45K.
[04:54:55]  My presence online is pretty solid, so I just need a man who's going to demonstrate good characteristics.
[04:55:01]  Angelica, can I have you just tilt your mic down a little bit?
[04:55:03]  And then, Riley, do you care about a woman's income?
[04:55:06]  It'd have to be less than $80,000.
[04:55:07]  I don't want some boss bitch.
[04:55:10]  Wow.
[04:55:10]  Can you delve into that?
[04:55:11]  Because actually, I've always wondered about the men who get like genuinely who gets.
[04:55:15]  So I'll give you an example.
[04:55:16]  Like, my girlfriend, she currently works at In-N-Out, and she has a degree in geography.
[04:55:20]  She can get a job making a lot more money, but she told me, I don't want to.
[04:55:24]  I don't want to work up some corporate career ladder and get distracted by it.
[04:55:27]  I'm just going to work at In-Not until I get married.
[04:55:29]  That was a maximum, though.
[04:55:30]  Do you have a minimum?
[04:55:31]  No, no.
[04:55:33]  I want it to be zero.
[04:55:34]  Zero?
[04:55:34]  Yeah.
[04:55:35]  You want to provide it.
[04:55:37]  You're a provider, right?
[04:55:38]  No, I will.
[04:55:38]  Does she bring you like burgers?
[04:55:40]  No, they're a corporation.
[04:55:42]  They can't.
[04:55:42]  They don't give up.
[04:55:43]  But also a degree in geography.
[04:55:45]  A degree in your life.
[04:55:46]  She could.
[04:55:46]  It never happens, though.
[04:55:48]  She wants more for the money.
[04:55:49]  Riley, I have a question.
[04:55:50]  Why you wouldn't date a woman that makes more money than you, though?
[04:55:53]  Because she's probably a feminist.
[04:55:55]  I'm not honest making $100,000 a year.
[04:56:01]  Because if you're making $100,000 a year, that means they focused on their education.
[04:56:03]  They probably went to college.
[04:56:04]  They probably got fucked $30,000.
[04:56:05]  Oh, so you don't want to go.
[04:56:06]  No college.
[04:56:07]  Why would I equal that?
[04:56:10]  I think anyone who's educated, hardworking, ambitious, has aspirations and goals.
[04:56:14]  I have to admit that.
[04:56:16]  I want a woman who has goals of having, hey, I want to have seven to ten kids.
[04:56:19]  I'd be like, great.
[04:56:20]  I want you to be my wife.
[04:56:21]  I don't want a woman who has the goals, like, I want to make a bunch of money.
[04:56:23]  That was my goals growing up.
[04:56:25]  I grew up very Mormon.
[04:56:26]  That was literally ingrained in our brains.
[04:56:27]  Like, I got married at 20.
[04:56:29]  I'm one of 12 kids.
[04:56:30]  I got married at 20.
[04:56:31]  I had a kid at 22 and 24.
[04:56:33]  And I felt like, in a lot of ways, I screwed myself over because when I died, he's a drug addict.
[04:56:38]  It's kind of a big one.
[04:56:39]  Yeah, but when you're young.
[04:56:40]  I'm saying, I didn't know that.
[04:56:41]  Yeah.
[04:56:41]  Well, so I'm saying I put myself on the back burner.
[04:56:44]  I don't have aspirations of becoming a boss bitch, as you say.
[04:56:48]  I want to be a mom.
[04:56:49]  I want to be a wife.
[04:56:49]  But I'm saying, I do feel like there's a level of like, I should have probably prepared myself a little bit better.
[04:56:54]  So I'm not in this position.
[04:56:55]  No, that's feminist fear mind.
[04:56:57]  No, no, no.
[04:56:57]  That's what I'm saying: is that being raised Mormon is a different thing.
[04:57:00]  Like when you have a nerf ball, as you did have tragically, be thrown at you, it throws you off your path.
[04:57:05]  But I agree with Riley because I have always made more money than the people that I've been dating.
[04:57:09]  It's just natural.
[04:57:11]  But at the same time, I can recognize the power imbalance in any other woman has already been mentioned.
[04:57:16]  If they put you on a pedestal, you're no longer attracted to them.
[04:57:19]  And that's been said over and over again.
[04:57:21]  So if you're making more money than them, you automatically have more power than them, and that emasculates them, and you're no longer attracted to them.
[04:57:27]  Women should even have this type of backup because you're saying, like, oh, I want to have some type of backup.
[04:57:30]  Like, here's what most women are.
[04:57:31]  I think I'm not saying that.
[04:57:33]  A lot of women.
[04:57:33]  I'm not going to have to have a backup if the man is showing signs of abuse and you're already locked in.
[04:57:37]  You can't totally just start up.
[04:57:38]  The woman's backup should be her parents.
[04:57:39]  But also, all of them.
[04:57:41]  So are you saying women should have secret banking?
[04:57:43]  You're coming for a pain for a man who should show those signs.
[04:57:47]  Start planning P, basically.
[04:57:48]  If a man starts to show infidelity or abuse or whatever, start to plan otherwise.
[04:57:52]  Try to get out, basically.
[04:57:54]  Exactly.
[04:57:55]  But if a man, but you shouldn't go into the relationship with the mindset of, oh, he's going to do this to me, so I have to put this in the middle of the morning.
[04:58:00]  But that's not a bad thing.
[04:58:03]  You're getting this money to live.
[04:58:04]  Let's say something happens to you where you're ill and you can't work.
[04:58:06]  Then what happens?
[04:58:07]  Then she has a lot of parents.
[04:58:09]  Okay.
[04:58:09]  Here's the problem, though.
[04:58:10]  Too many women go into marriage with this framing of he's going to cheat on you.
[04:58:15]  He's going to beat you.
[04:58:16]  He's going to blah, blah, blah.
[04:58:17]  I want the backup or whatever.
[04:58:18]  It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[04:58:19]  So I think if you are going into a marriage thinking, well, I need a backup just in case all this happens, because you always hear these stories, but they're really the outlier.
[04:58:29]  And I wanted to ask, I wanted to ask you.
[04:58:31]  I understand where you're coming from because you feel like you came out of the world.
[04:58:33]  Do you know what the birth rate in America is?
[04:58:35]  Do you know what the birth rate in America is for each woman?
[04:58:38]  How many kids that they have?
[04:58:38]  I have 90%.
[04:58:39]  It's 1.6, right?
[04:58:40]  So the average woman has less kids than what is for the replacement levels, okay?
[04:58:44]  So almost every single woman that I've met that's working a big career or in college right now, they're just doing it as a backup and then they'll get married later.
[04:58:50]  So this is what happens.
[04:58:51]  Carl's 18 years old.
[04:58:52]  She's like, oh, I'm going to take a gap year before I go to college.
[04:58:54]  I'm going to go to Europe and fuck a bunch of guys.
[04:58:55]  Then they come back.
[04:58:56]  They go to college for six years or whatever.
[04:58:58]  Then guess what?
[04:58:58]  They're 25 when they get out of college, but oh, they have a bunch of student loan debt.
[04:59:01]  So then they wait five or six or seven years to pay it off because it's like, well, I want to pay off my student loan debt before I get married.
[04:59:06]  And before you know it, they're 32 years old.
[04:59:08]  Then they find a guy, they date him for about two years, then they're like, what, 34 years old?
[04:59:11]  And then they get engaged for a year.
[04:59:13]  Then she's 35.
[04:59:13]  She has her very first kid at 35 years old.
[04:59:15]  Then when she tries to have a second kid at 38 years old, she's like, oh, wait, I'm infertile.
[04:59:19]  By the time a woman hits 30, I think 37.
[04:59:23]  By the time a woman is a little bit more than 100%, you know what I mean?
[04:59:26]  I'm saying something real quick.
[04:59:27]  By the time a woman hits 30, if she is unmarried and doesn't have kids, she has a 50-50 chance of ever actually getting married and then having kids.
[04:59:35]  The average woman in America has a kid after the age of 30 years old.
[04:59:38]  Yeah, and that's part of the reason the maternal mortality rate has gone up is because women are having children.
[04:59:43]  Autism and disabilities.
[04:59:44]  Yeah, they're having them later.
[04:59:49]  Guys, only one person at a time.
[04:59:52]  We can't, nobody can understand.
[04:59:54]  The higher chance of autism doesn't occur until after 35.
[04:59:58]  So I do agree with that point slightly.
[05:00:00]  But if you have kids, excuse me, after 32, the chances for miscarriages and pregnancy complications start to rise, and that's traumatized.
[05:00:07]  That's 100% true.
[05:00:08]  100%.
[05:00:09]  Let me speak on, because I actually had a baby at 22, and then I had a baby at 25, and then I had a baby at 37.
[05:00:15]  We are not made to have babies that late in life.
[05:00:19]  I had two little ones in my 20s.
[05:00:21]  I felt fine, energetic.
[05:00:23]  I have one little one now, and I'm dead beat exhausted.
[05:00:27]  And his dad is involved.
[05:00:28]  So dead beat exhausted.
[05:00:29]  And you kick-started it young.
[05:00:31]  That means your reproductive system was already used to it.
[05:00:33]  With a woman trying to start from scratch at like 32, hormones all over the place.
[05:00:38]  What about surrogacy?
[05:00:40]  Surrogacy.
[05:00:41]  Constantly, we're not going to talk about human trafficking.
[05:00:44]  That's expensive.
[05:00:45]  Surrogacy is an industry because of birth control destroying women's uterus.
[05:00:48]  Surrogacy is also their brain.
[05:00:49]  It's trafficking.
[05:00:50]  Yeah, yeah.
[05:00:51]  I hate it so much.
[05:00:53]  That's what made me right-wing in part.
[05:00:55]  Surrogacy is very similar to prostitution, and that's that a woman is selling out her body, becoming mentally traumatized after doing the job and getting paid a large amount of money.
[05:01:03]  There's people using a woman's body.
[05:01:05]  Feminists.
[05:01:05]  And all of them are mentally.
[05:01:07]  I mean, some people want to do that.
[05:01:10]  No, feminists.
[05:01:10]  No, but that's the thing.
[05:01:13]  No, we should not allow them to do it.
[05:01:15]  I know women who want to do that, but it's because they're poor and they just need the money and they're just so numb that they're like, you know what?
[05:01:20]  I'll just do it for 60K.
[05:01:21]  The moment they give birth, the hormones start to generate.
[05:01:24]  And it's like 60K, 80K, 100K.
[05:01:26]  I can't relinquish this baby anymore.
[05:01:28]  There's something dysfunctional.
[05:01:29]  It's unhealthy for the baby.
[05:01:32]  And not only that, because of the contract, even if she goes back on it, which a lot of women do, she can't go back because the contract says that that's not your child anymore.
[05:01:39]  Yeah, that's true.
[05:01:40]  So it's terrible.
[05:01:41]  And they want to go back.
[05:01:42]  So you're kind of saying, like, oh, it's their choice if they want to do that.
[05:01:44]  And so I wanted to ask, if I go to like some poor neighborhood in LA and I know somebody's not going to be able to pay their rent on time and they're afraid of becoming homeless and I say, hey, I want you to eat a bunch of crayons.
[05:01:52]  I'm going to pay you $100.
[05:01:54]  I'm going to live stream.
[05:01:55]  It's going to be great.
[05:01:55]  Do you think that's immoral for me to do that?
[05:01:57]  Even if they decide, oh, yeah, I do want to do that.
[05:01:59]  I am desperate enough for that money.
[05:02:00]  Well, it's extortion.
[05:02:02]  It absolutely is extortion.
[05:02:04]  What's surrogacy?
[05:02:05]  The cases of surrogacy that I've personally seen are like people that are close to a person who can't be aware of that.
[05:02:12]  And so do you know the people?
[05:02:14]  Do you know the woman that was pregnant?
[05:02:15]  Do you know the woman that was pregnant for nine months and got her child stripped away from her?
[05:02:18]  Or the woman who got her egg and got her husband's sperm and had some young woman's lives destroyed by psychological trauma?
[05:02:25]  I don't know anybody on a super personal level, but I have heard stories of the pregnant people who care about stories.
[05:02:34]  Of course, women.
[05:02:34]  My sister-in-law.
[05:02:35]  I would argue philosophically, philosophically, is it okay to allow something just because someone consents to it?
[05:02:41]  Is there not a responsibility on society to discover behavioralism?
[05:02:45]  It doesn't actually necessarily destroy.
[05:02:46]  There is certain circumstances where consent is what matters.
[05:02:51]  But what about the MAID program, for example?
[05:02:53]  People who are mentally.
[05:02:54]  You've got to let people finish their thought.
[05:02:57]  When it's not about money, I think that it's perfectly acceptable for consent to be the only thing that matters for her sister.
[05:03:05]  Yes.
[05:03:05]  Well, also, she's probably not mentally traumatized because now it's going to be a lot of fun.
[05:03:08]  She's not going to be aware of that.
[05:03:09]  It's not going to be a problem by money or any other kind of power.
[05:03:12]  That's different.
[05:03:13]  But what about something like the MAID program where it's not incentivized by money?
[05:03:16]  I don't know what that is.
[05:03:17]  The MAID program is something that's becoming more and more popular where they're basically allowing to self-terminate basically based off of just how you feel.
[05:03:26]  It happened in Spain with this really famous case where a girl was just violated.
[05:03:30]  And she, yes, okay, I'll show you.
[05:03:32]  So, and not only that, they harvest your organs before you're fully expired, basically.
[05:03:37]  So in a functional society, in a good society, do we allow people who are behaving in a way that can be so easily exploited to behave that way?
[05:03:46]  Absolutely not, because when you're in that state, that is a mental illness and you need to be treated with care.
[05:03:52]  Yes.
[05:03:52]  Can't make it, it's like when you're in court and you're they're deciding whether or not you're mentally able to like testify or whatever, it matters what mental state you're in.
[05:04:03]  Do you think we're normalizing mental illness as a means to behave in certain ways, meanwhile, stigmatizing common sense so as to facilitate people to hurt themselves and profit from that?
[05:04:14]  Yes, I think we do stigmatize mental health a lot as a society, and this goes back to, I don't want to bring up the transing again, but when you're like, oh, why is that a mental health?
[05:04:21]  It's not, it's okay to call things mental.
[05:04:24]  I have PTSD.
[05:04:24]  That's a mental health problem.
[05:04:26]  It's okay to say that.
[05:04:27]  You have PTSD from what?
[05:04:29]  The Marines and the Marines.
[05:04:30]  Yeah.
[05:04:31]  Oh, from the Marines?
[05:04:32]  Did you get paper cuts from the male?
[05:04:34]  Like, what's going on with that?
[05:04:35]  I was sexually assaulted again.
[05:04:36]  Okay, sorry.
[05:04:37]  Even with pain.
[05:04:38]  Is that okay with you?
[05:04:39]  No, I'm sorry.
[05:04:39]  I didn't know.
[05:04:40]  I mean, you said from the Marines.
[05:04:41]  Do you know how many women are sexually assaulted in the military?
[05:04:44]  Yeah, that's why she's not going to be able to do that.
[05:04:46]  Be careful.
[05:04:47]  You can't get mad at me for something I said.
[05:04:49]  Yeah, that's why you ask me.
[05:04:50]  You don't say that.
[05:04:51]  And then we're attacked.
[05:04:53]  Yeah, I did ask her.
[05:04:53]  She said the Marines.
[05:04:54]  She didn't say, oh, I was like, yeah, and then he's like, what, did you get paper cuts or something?
[05:04:56]  No, no, no.
[05:04:57]  She said the Marines, as in its from her duty.
[05:04:59]  To the side of this.
[05:05:00]  Well, it was, I got attacked by what it is.
[05:05:02]  No matter what the mentality is.
[05:05:03]  And then I was shamed afterwards.
[05:05:05]  Is that okay with you?
[05:05:06]  As you were saying, I'm sorry.
[05:05:08]  No matter what the mental illness is, you have to, you can't just fully let somebody make their own decisions when it is based off of that mental illness.

=== Career Driven Men (10:53) ===

[05:05:17]  Yes.
[05:05:18]  Whether it's PTSD or gender dysphoria or any of these things.
[05:05:24]  You have to take that into consideration when they're making choices.
[05:05:27]  Do you think a woman's natural instinct to give birth and then have it be taken away from her might be a significant thing?
[05:05:32]  Okay, I got it.
[05:05:33]  Moving on.
[05:05:33]  We're off topic here.
[05:05:35]  In any case, a woman's career, money, status.
[05:05:40]  Yeah, I think we were just, oh, Riley, you're just making the point of not really caring about a woman's income.
[05:05:47]  Do any women have any objections to this?
[05:05:52]  No.
[05:05:53]  About men not caring about a woman?
[05:05:54]  Yeah, like, for example, one of the questions or statements is: a woman's career, money status makes her more attractive to men.
[05:06:02]  Many of you agree to this.
[05:06:03]  I think, generally speaking, men don't really care all that much about a woman's career, her money, or her status insofar as it makes her more attractive.
[05:06:11]  I disagree.
[05:06:12]  Some don't, some do.
[05:06:13]  I get used a lot for that.
[05:06:15]  Yeah, but it doesn't, but they're using you out of a necessity, like a financial necessity, but it doesn't make you more attractive.
[05:06:22]  It can, though.
[05:06:23]  No, it shows you the money.
[05:06:23]  Men have said that it's so attractive that you are independent.
[05:06:28]  Speaking in generalities, yeah, there's hobosexual men.
[05:06:31]  I think it shows like hard working.
[05:06:32]  It shows that you're hardworking.
[05:06:33]  It shows that you're disciplined.
[05:06:35]  It shows that you like it.
[05:06:36]  That's not an attraction trigger.
[05:06:37]  If a man wants to be hardworking, if you have those traits, you don't have to do that.
[05:06:42]  Tiffany, can you get them some water, please?
[05:06:45]  Yeah, men don't really care about women.
[05:06:47]  Would I like to not work and rely on a man?
[05:06:49]  Yes.
[05:06:50]  I want to surround you.
[05:06:50]  I think men that want to use it should care about those things.
[05:06:53]  Nah, most men, it's not like, wow, she's really hardworking.
[05:06:58]  Yeah, men do see this.
[05:06:59]  They genuinely don't.
[05:07:01]  Yeah, ambition.
[05:07:01]  We want you ambitious in other ways.
[05:07:03]  I've never heard a man say that ever.
[05:07:05]  Yeah.
[05:07:06]  Like, ever.
[05:07:07]  I say exactly what you're saying all the time.
[05:07:10]  Say what?
[05:07:10]  That's what I'm like, you want women ambitious in other ways.
[05:07:12]  Like they want somebody who's passionate, has ambition, but doesn't have to be related directly to like a workforce.
[05:07:18]  Ambition for the family.
[05:07:20]  Ambition for me.
[05:07:22]  They're not mutually exclusive.
[05:07:23]  Like loyalty.
[05:07:24]  I've heard men like basically respect women for their accomplishments, but I've never heard it be a deal breaker for a man.
[05:07:29]  For a woman, it's a deal.
[05:07:31]  But it can foster respect.
[05:07:32]  And yeah, it can definitely.
[05:07:34]  But also, what they're basically saying is this something that in general is like a value system for a woman or for a man, and it's not.
[05:07:42]  It's like an added bonus to a man, but ultimately, if it gets in the way of that, that's a relationship.
[05:07:46]  It can be an added option.
[05:07:47]  But I feel like as a person that is sitting here and they looking at the woman, they know that they want to provide for them.
[05:07:52]  They don't care.
[05:07:52]  It can easily be adapted to the moment.
[05:07:54]  For all men, I'm saying just both types of men exist.
[05:07:57]  A lot of successful men date women who are super low profile.
[05:08:03]  Oh.
[05:08:04]  Well, most successful people.
[05:08:05]  They expand in their status.
[05:08:07]  Wait, that doesn't necessarily mean that they make as much money as no, but they're basically looking for the pedigree.
[05:08:14]  So they'll have sex with whatever, but they have to, for the status of it, basically marry someone within that sphere.
[05:08:19]  But if you have notoriety, like for example, Jeff Bezos, you'll basically date whoever you want because you're on another level.
[05:08:24]  It's more about attraction and who you want to live your life with.
[05:08:28]  When you're successful, you're not looking for somebody who's also successful.
[05:08:32]  It's more about who you can parent with.
[05:08:34]  Well, I can agree with that too.
[05:08:35]  Who you can build a life with, who you're attracted to and to live.
[05:08:39]  The amount of men that I'm like, I do not need him nearby.
[05:08:42]  And like, I've given up on relationships because I physically, like, literally do not need them is, well, it's kind of freeing, but also at the same time, exactly.
[05:08:51]  If you're in a relationship, he's just cautious.
[05:08:54]  Well, no, it is unattractive for a woman to be independent.
[05:08:58]  Well, what if we have to be independent?
[05:09:00]  No, wait, so.
[05:09:01]  Yeah, do you want me to live off the government?
[05:09:03]  I'm over here like not living off the government, paying into the government.
[05:09:07]  I'm not much more attractive.
[05:09:09]  I know.
[05:09:11]  I pay high taxes.
[05:09:12]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[05:09:13]  Hold on.
[05:09:14]  There we go.
[05:09:16]  All right.
[05:09:16]  I'm going to answer the questions.
[05:09:17]  I heard about half of them.
[05:09:18]  You guys were yapping a lot.
[05:09:19]  So basically, earlier, all of you guys were saying, oh, yeah, a man likes a woman who's dependent.
[05:09:23]  And you're like, oh, mm-hmm.
[05:09:24]  Mm-hmm.
[05:09:26]  And then I'm like, a man doesn't like a woman who's independent.
[05:09:28]  And you're like, and eight of you started talking all at once.
[05:09:32]  Like, it's actually retarded.
[05:09:33]  Because I said the exact same thing, phrased in a different way.
[05:09:36]  And then you guys lose your absolute crap.
[05:09:39]  So when a woman is independent, it shows like, wait, why is she so independent?
[05:09:42]  Maybe her father didn't provide for her.
[05:09:43]  Maybe she has family issues.
[05:09:45]  Why is she so independent?
[05:09:46]  Is she going to be the one who provides?
[05:09:47]  There's obviously something not psychologically there that'll make her a great traditional stay-at-home mom.
[05:09:51]  So that's why men don't find independent women attractive because it shows that they had some type of trauma as a child or a teenager or a young adult that makes them not want to be with that woman.
[05:09:58]  Because guess what?
[05:09:59]  Men like women who have the least amount of trauma possible.
[05:10:01]  So do you want them to be codependent?
[05:10:02]  Yeah.
[05:10:03]  Would that be attracted to you?
[05:10:04]  Or like nice things.
[05:10:05]  I think codependent or independent.
[05:10:07]  But I would also say.
[05:10:07]  Do you want me to be with a man?
[05:10:10]  But you don't like clingy women.
[05:10:11]  So most men don't like clinging.
[05:10:12]  He didn't even say anything about clinging.
[05:10:13]  And you know what about just saying he doesn't want it independent of the money?
[05:10:17]  Riley Riley.
[05:10:18]  He's 21 years old.
[05:10:20]  He's not looking for someone.
[05:10:21]  Shut the fuck up.
[05:10:22]  Riley's just.
[05:10:23]  One person at a fucking time.
[05:10:25]  How many times do I gotta fucking tell you guys?
[05:10:27]  God damn, shirt.
[05:10:29]  One at a fucking time, okay?
[05:10:31]  God damn.
[05:10:32]  Come back to the table, Ryan.
[05:10:34]  Riley is 21 years old.
[05:10:35]  He's not at that level where he's thinking, like, oh, this and that.
[05:10:38]  He's looking for the ideal partner.
[05:10:39]  He's set himself up correctly.
[05:10:40]  He's basically raised himself to have a career.
[05:10:42]  He's done everything the right way.
[05:10:44]  When it comes to someone who's had a difficult life, when they're older, they're going to look for someone else who can understand that.
[05:10:49]  They don't want to marry someone like Riley where it's like, you're not going to understand this life.
[05:10:53]  That's how I feel.
[05:10:54]  Because I'm like, I would love to be dependent on somebody.
[05:10:57]  But I feel like I was put in a position where I have to rely on my career for kids.
[05:11:02]  Yes, yes.
[05:11:03]  There's no way, like, I think it would be unattractive if I was not independent as a mom.
[05:11:06]  And you're on welfare and like, you should find a man that is going to be someone who's wounded by a similar experience and will understand that pain and compliment you and give you that life that you've always sought.
[05:11:16]  I've seen that happen before.
[05:11:17]  Exactly.
[05:11:18]  I think there's a complete difference between saying that you're dependent or independent and being codependent.
[05:11:23]  Codependent is like a partnership.
[05:11:24]  It's not completely dependent on someone.
[05:11:26]  It's not trying to push someone else away from you at the same time.
[05:11:29]  There are different types of dependency.
[05:11:31]  Like you can be like financially dependent on someone while still being able to handle yourself emotionally, being able to put it in your life.
[05:11:39]  I would want my wife to be somewhat emotionally dependent on me.
[05:11:43]  To ask you every time she has a feeling and wants to just to run it.
[05:11:47]  Just someone.
[05:11:48]  Maybe about half.
[05:11:49]  But with financials, entirely.
[05:11:52]  Listen, and just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with your stance.
[05:11:55]  In fact, I agree with your stance.
[05:11:57]  That's correct.
[05:11:57]  But some women, like me and Hannah, we have to provide for our children.
[05:12:03]  Okay, I'm 41 years old.
[05:12:04]  I don't want to rely on mommy and daddy-wise so they can also control me.
[05:12:07]  No, thank you.
[05:12:08]  I also like nice things.
[05:12:08]  I travel.
[05:12:09]  I just like those things in life.
[05:12:11]  And if I'm going to be sitting around waiting on Prince Charming, I'm not going to be getting those things.
[05:12:15]  To be honest, it's because you're in your 40s.
[05:12:17]  That's why I won't have to.
[05:12:19]  Wait, Riley, Prince Charming's not going to climb up.
[05:12:21]  I don't want Prince Charming.
[05:12:23]  Is that okay?
[05:12:23]  I was going to say, you don't want her to be emotionally dependent on you.
[05:12:26]  You want her to be financially dependent on you.
[05:12:27]  Cool.
[05:12:27]  I understand that's your preference.
[05:12:29]  What if you, like, obviously this isn't the case, but you turn out to be this evil person, you fuck her over, you cheat on her.
[05:12:33]  And it's not always a self-I'm not saying you are.
[05:12:36]  I'm not talking about you as a person, as an individual.
[05:12:38]  I'm just saying, in a hypothetical, the man does that.
[05:12:40]  And it's not always a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[05:12:42]  Yeah, but what if he's not?
[05:12:43]  Like, Riley doesn't strike me as a man who's going to cheat on his wife.
[05:12:45]  He's been thinking about these needs and wanting to prioritize her whatever.
[05:12:48]  So there's plenty of men who are going to give her that.
[05:12:50]  You can rephrase that.
[05:12:51]  There's plenty of good men.
[05:12:52]  There's plenty of bad men.
[05:12:53]  Maybe you can rephrase it.
[05:12:55]  There's plenty of bad women too.
[05:12:56]  You can rephrase it in a way that may be like, oh, what if a girl who's dependent on the man and then the man cheats on her instead of bringing up me into it?
[05:13:03]  It was not actually ever about you.
[05:13:04]  No, no, no, I know.
[05:13:05]  I know, I know.
[05:13:05]  I'm just being technical with it.
[05:13:06]  She cheats on her, just like turns out to be like a really bad person, isn't a good father.
[05:13:11]  Like, there's so many different factors that can make a man not a good candidate.
[05:13:15]  You know, sometimes in life, you have to roll the dice.
[05:13:16]  I'm still talking to you.
[05:13:17]  Suddenly, she's in a position where.
[05:13:20]  Like, what's she going to do?
[05:13:21]  She has a kid.
[05:13:22]  She's got to worry about all that.
[05:13:23]  You just said, oh, I'm still talking.
[05:13:25]  I've probably been the nicest with not interrupting people.
[05:13:28]  You said I'm a nice wasn't it?
[05:13:29]  You asked me if my PTSD came from a paper cut.
[05:13:31]  Right, yeah, but that was an interruption.
[05:13:34]  Okay, well, me saying I'm still talking wasn't.
[05:13:36]  You're still salty about that.
[05:13:37]  That had nothing to do with women in the world.
[05:13:39]  She was talking while she was talking about her.
[05:13:41]  Okay, that was a good reminder.
[05:13:43]  Yeah, whatever.
[05:13:44]  That was a good reminder.
[05:13:45]  It was a good remote.
[05:13:45]  Well, it's also like a stereotype.
[05:13:47]  I do think it's a bad thing at all.
[05:13:49]  To be completely transparent, I did tell a fib in my relationship status.
[05:13:53]  I'm not engaged.
[05:13:54]  I've actually been married.
[05:13:55]  I am a married woman.
[05:13:57]  I have way more money than my husband does.
[05:13:59]  Way more money.
[05:14:00]  I did not get a prenup, namely because I have full trust in my husband.
[05:14:04]  If he betrays me, then sure, that'll be agony.
[05:14:07]  But at the end of the day, when you get married, you have to give them full trust.
[05:14:10]  Otherwise, why are you getting married to them?
[05:14:12]  Okay, but yeah, because it has to be a lot of fun.
[05:14:13]  One has so much more to do.
[05:14:15]  And he's not very nuanced.
[05:14:18]  You have to look for the qualities that you need in a spouse.
[05:14:21]  You need to look for a man who's going to be a good husband, a good father.
[05:14:24]  Sometimes go and flush.
[05:14:26]  That's what happens in the world.
[05:14:27]  We're asking like men don't pretend to be good people and then just one has a lot more children in that situation, like financially.
[05:14:35]  I'm still lying.
[05:14:36]  I'm still in the past.
[05:14:36]  And what happened to your parents?
[05:14:38]  I mean, I don't really like airing this out in public.
[05:14:40]  You just mentioned that.
[05:14:41]  I know, I know, I understand.
[05:14:42]  That's why.
[05:14:43]  But my dad was the perfect husband.
[05:14:45]  He showed up in every way necessary and then he cheated on her.
[05:14:49]  So then he's not the perfect husband.
[05:14:51]  Yeah, but up until that point, everything was perfect.
[05:14:54]  Right.
[05:14:54]  Okay.
[05:14:55]  I'm sorry, girl.
[05:14:56]  I'm very sorry.
[05:14:57]  I'm so sorry.
[05:14:58]  Yeah, I'm sorry.
[05:14:58]  That's really hard.
[05:15:00]  That's really hard.
[05:15:00]  I'm so sorry.
[05:15:01]  I'm sorry.
[05:15:01]  It's okay.
[05:15:02]  I'm so sorry.
[05:15:03]  People definitely can't.
[05:15:04]  The thing is that when it comes to men like that, it's like if they're career-driven, and I argue that for the same thing for men, if they're career-driven or materialist-driven, saying, I'm going to provide this for a woman, then yeah, they might think an indiscretion is okay because they provide whatever.
[05:15:18]  That's actually what happened with my grandpa.
[05:15:19]  It super traumatized my mom too much.
[05:15:22]  But still, I'm like, if a man doesn't prioritize family, if his conviction is not, I want to do this for my wife, for my children, then that's not a good man.
[05:15:31]  If he's saying, I want to do this because that's how you get women, then that's kind of an indication of he's going to look around and justify himself.
[05:15:38]  I think people change.
[05:15:39]  I think it's just hard because people change.
[05:15:41]  I, to this day, will say, I think I married the right guy.
[05:15:43]  I will stand by that.
[05:15:45]  I think that he changed, and I think that that affected me and my kids.
[05:15:48]  And he was a different man 20 years later than when she first married you.
[05:15:51]  I really don't think people change.
[05:15:52]  I think they just get revealed when they get revealed.
[05:15:54]  Because whatever lines there will manifest itself, especially if there's money in the equation, money will make the worst toxic qualities out of you come out.
[05:16:02]  So if a woman is throwing it out, it wasn't money, it was loneliness.
[05:16:05]  And it is for a lot of men.
[05:16:07]  Women because they're lonely.
[05:16:08]  I know.
[05:16:08]  When it comes to marriage, loneliness epidemic.

=== Height Apprehension In Dating (04:05) ===

[05:16:11]  No.
[05:16:12]  When it comes to marriage, that's hard.
[05:16:14]  Before people are getting married, they are asking the wrong questions.
[05:16:18]  They're not asking the right questions, or at least before they get married to know if those people align.
[05:16:25]  So that's when people are getting revealed as this person you didn't think they were because you weren't asking the right questions.
[05:16:31]  Gotta move it on.
[05:16:31]  Gotta move it on.
[05:16:32]  Sorry.
[05:16:33]  Sorry.
[05:16:33]  Exactly.
[05:16:34]  Hold on.
[05:16:34]  Because my mother asked all the right questions.
[05:16:36]  Yo, Shona, read this for us, please.
[05:16:38]  We have a chat coming through.
[05:16:41]  Thank you, Ty.
[05:16:42]  Big fan, Brian.
[05:16:43]  I'm from Andrews fanbase.
[05:16:44]  Just wanted to say that I say I keep to myself, but want to give Chair One her props for standing her ground and always returning.
[05:16:51]  She's dope.
[05:16:52]  All right.
[05:16:52]  Nice little comment for you there, Shona.
[05:16:55]  Thank you, Ty.
[05:16:56]  Appreciate it.
[05:16:57]  How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
[05:17:00]  I'm 5'4, or almost 5'5, actually.
[05:17:03]  Minimum height, 5'7.
[05:17:04]  Okay.
[05:17:05]  Have you ever had a boyfriend?
[05:17:07]  No.
[05:17:07]  Okay, what about you?
[05:17:09]  5'1 and minimum, I would say, probably 5'7 ⁇ .
[05:17:12]  Okay, how tall?
[05:17:13]  You're in a relationship, right?
[05:17:14]  Are you married?
[05:17:15]  I'm married.
[05:17:16]  How tall is your husband?
[05:17:17]  He's 5'9.
[05:17:20]  Okay, what about you?
[05:17:21]  I'm 5'6, and the shortest, I guess, I'll go is 5'7, 5'8.
[05:17:27]  And you're also married?
[05:17:29]  Yes.
[05:17:30]  How tall is your husband?
[05:17:32]  5'9.
[05:17:33]  Okay, what about you?
[05:17:35]  I'm 5'6, and I wouldn't really say I have a minimum.
[05:17:39]  I mean, I think I put 5'2, but it doesn't matter to me.
[05:17:44]  Okay, how tall is your boyfriend or whatever?
[05:17:48]  I think he's 5'9.
[05:17:49]  Okay, what about you?
[05:17:51]  I'm 5'6.
[05:17:52]  I think I put 5'7.
[05:17:57]  And you're married or how tall is he?
[05:18:01]  He's 6'.
[05:18:02]  Okay, what about you?
[05:18:03]  I'm 5'5'.
[05:18:05]  I can't remember.
[05:18:06]  I put 5'10 or 5'11, either one for me.
[05:18:09]  And my fiancé is 6'3.
[05:18:11]  Okay.
[05:18:11]  I got lucky.
[05:18:15]  I'm 5'3 and a half, and my partner is 5'10.
[05:18:19]  And I think I put 5'9.
[05:18:21]  Yep, you?
[05:18:22]  I'm 5'8.
[05:18:23]  I mean, height is great because it makes me feel more feminine, but I dated a guy that was 5'9.
[05:18:30]  You say that as if to be 5'9, which is the average male height, is fits.
[05:18:34]  No, I think I'm taller for a woman.
[05:18:36]  So I'm saying I like to have, like, it would be nice, a good preference to have somebody taller just because it makes me feel more feminine.
[05:18:42]  But my first boyfriend after my divorce was 5'9, and that wasn't like.
[05:18:47]  But it seemed like that's a deficit, even though you would like it's well, because I do want to feel feminine.
[05:18:52]  I do want to feel like you want to feel small, right?
[05:18:55]  Be able to wear like you come around tower.
[05:18:57]  What about you?
[05:18:58]  I'm 5'1, so like, I think I put 5'6.
[05:19:01]  Okay, next.
[05:19:03]  I'm 5'6', 5'7, depending on my hip placement of the day.
[05:19:07]  But I like short kings.
[05:19:08]  I'll date a short.
[05:19:09]  I've dated short kings before.
[05:19:11]  Okay, next.
[05:19:12]  5'5', 5'7.
[05:19:14]  All right.
[05:19:14]  Riley, do you have any high preferences?
[05:19:17]  Just probably shorter than 5'8.
[05:19:21]  Or 5'8 and shorter.
[05:19:22]  How tall are you?
[05:19:25]  Oh, okay.
[05:19:25]  I'm just kidding.
[05:19:26]  Yeah, I don't really.
[05:19:27]  What about you, Brian?
[05:19:29]  Oh, I mean, I don't really have a massive high preference.
[05:19:32]  I'll date shorter.
[05:19:33]  I'll even date taller.
[05:19:35]  I guess some men have an apprehension to dating, like women who are much taller.
[05:19:40]  Much uh I think men some men might have an apprehension to dating taller women, but I don't care.
[05:19:46]  It'd make for better athletes, I guess.
[05:19:49]  Like bigger sons, that's always a good thing.
[05:19:52]  Uh, but like in terms of like general attraction, I would say have a general attraction to petite women, but for sons, like give me like a six foot five, just fucking linebacker, not fat, but like a thick, she's she's sturdy for the children, for the children.

=== Billionaire Dominant Women (15:24) ===

[05:20:16]  For the sake of the children.
[05:20:19]  I'll sacrifice, I'll sacrifice my like actual interests, like my actual preferential attraction for the sake of having warrior children, I guess.
[05:20:32]  Let's see here.
[05:20:33]  Any disagreements with the show, Shona?
[05:20:36]  Yeah.
[05:20:38]  You think they push the narrative against women too much, says Griselda.
[05:20:44]  Okay, what do you mean by that?
[05:20:47]  I have followed the show for a while, and I just feel like sometimes they push it too much, you know, especially you.
[05:20:54]  Give me an example.
[05:20:56]  I don't know.
[05:20:57]  Just earlier, probably when you were saying that, you know, that you wouldn't, well, also him, that you wouldn't date someone that makes more money than you.
[05:21:07]  Like, I feel like if you know, a woman making more money disqualifies her or like makes her unattractive.
[05:21:14]  I think that's, I don't know, I find that weird.
[05:21:18]  Okay, so I guess we can probably do split here.
[05:21:23]  Well, one, I didn't quite state that.
[05:21:25]  That was Riley's position.
[05:21:27]  So.
[05:21:28]  Wait, can you restate the question?
[05:21:31]  Can you restate?
[05:21:32]  I'm going to reject your request.
[05:21:35]  So, anyways, back to this.
[05:21:38]  So, yeah, I don't think it's wrong for a man to have a preference on a woman's income.
[05:21:47]  And if that means he just doesn't care at all about her income, I think that's totally fine.
[05:21:52]  I don't think, mind you, though, you wrote this before the show started, before this revealed conversation.
[05:22:00]  I don't see how that would be a narrative against women.
[05:22:03]  It almost seems like it's actually a privileged position for women to be in, for men to be willing to take on essentially the entire financial burden in a relationship that actually seems like that's to the benefit of women.
[05:22:17]  I mean, I feel like some women may appreciate that.
[05:22:19]  I don't because, like she said, I'm very independent.
[05:22:22]  I mean, okay, so a billionaire comes along and he's like, a condition of you being with me, let's assume he meets all your other criteria, is you have to stop working.
[05:22:31]  Do you take the deal?
[05:22:32]  No.
[05:22:33]  That's retarded.
[05:22:34]  I'm sorry.
[05:22:34]  That's so retarded.
[05:22:35]  So, even as a man, where I have like a sort of, there's a biological imperative to provide, if a billionaire woman comes to me is like, hey, Brian, yeah, I'll be with you.
[05:22:46]  And so she meets all my, and she meets all my other criteria.
[05:22:49]  And she's like, hey, I'm a billionaire.
[05:22:51]  You don't have to work.
[05:22:51]  Let's just fuck me all day and take care of the children.
[05:22:55]  I'm taking the fucking deal.
[05:22:57]  Like, I'm taking that deal.
[05:22:58]  But it's amazing to me that women, where your biological imperative isn't even to provide.
[05:23:03]  I wouldn't.
[05:23:04]  I would get super fucking bored.
[05:23:05]  What do you do for work?
[05:23:07]  I actually am a business owner.
[05:23:08]  I mean, I do everything.
[05:23:10]  Okay, your business.
[05:23:11]  What business do you own?
[05:23:12]  I own two vegan restaurants.
[05:23:14]  You own vegan restaurants.
[05:23:15]  Yes.
[05:23:16]  So just be clear.
[05:23:18]  By the way, restaurant business, I understand, is a lot of work.
[05:23:22]  It's stressful.
[05:23:24]  And you own two of them, two restaurants.
[05:23:27]  A billionaire man comes along.
[05:23:29]  No, vegans don't play.
[05:23:31]  I don't know.
[05:23:32]  We don't.
[05:23:33]  Well, I mean, if a billionaire man was in the picture, You could go way further with your vegan activism than owning two restaurants.
[05:23:41]  But, um, but I would Brian, I have a question for you.
[05:23:45]  Do you ever have like, like, for example, like for me during the summer, like you, you have a block of time where you have nothing to do, no routine, no productivity, nothing that you're working towards, and feel really like intellectually understimulated.
[05:23:57]  Intellectually understimulated.
[05:24:00]  Or just like you, like, sometimes productivity actually feels really good.
[05:24:03]  I mean, my goal is to be pumping out like seven children.
[05:24:08]  Uh, how many do you have?
[05:24:09]  Huh?
[05:24:10]  How many do you have?
[05:24:11]  Well, you know, I'm a little, I'm a little slacking on that, but uh, I, it's in the works, but you have 30 years.
[05:24:18]  I got some time, I got some time to do it, but uh, just never, I mean, my, my, whoever I'm gonna end up with, she's gonna have, she's gonna be plenty preoccupied with the children, and I honestly want her to be homeschooling them.
[05:24:30]  So she's gonna have to kill them.
[05:24:32]  Yeah, no, I'm not gonna send them to the school to get trans.
[05:24:37]  If I could homeschool, I would.
[05:24:39]  I agree.
[05:24:39]  Is raising children not productive?
[05:24:41]  Yeah.
[05:24:42]  I'm saying like it is productive, but some women like might have aspirations beyond that and still and also like before the time that they're having children or after the time after other children.
[05:24:51]  Closer to the mic, closer to the mic.
[05:24:53]  I mean, you've just been propagandized.
[05:24:54]  Yeah.
[05:24:55]  This idea.
[05:24:56]  I genuinely have this desire to work one day.
[05:24:59]  Why?
[05:24:59]  Where did you get that desire?
[05:25:01]  Because I want to go into healthcare.
[05:25:02]  I want to contribute to the healthcare system.
[05:25:04]  Why?
[05:25:04]  Why so much?
[05:25:05]  Because it's interesting to me.
[05:25:07]  Who taught you that?
[05:25:08]  And I care about it.
[05:25:08]  Who taught you to want that?
[05:25:09]  No one taught me that.
[05:25:10]  Because it is instilled in your biology to want to have children and to raise children.
[05:25:13]  It is not instilled in your biology to have some boss-lady career.
[05:25:16]  But not every desire that humans have is instilled into their biology.
[05:25:20]  I want to have a question, Mike.
[05:25:22]  What do you think about me not taking purposely?
[05:25:24]  Because my ex-husband is a millionaire and I could take a lot of money from him and I don't.
[05:25:28]  What do you think about that?
[05:25:30]  Why are you bringing that up?
[05:25:31]  You love to purposely.
[05:25:32]  I'll get it there.
[05:25:32]  I'll get there in a second.
[05:25:33]  What do you think about that?
[05:25:34]  I mean, that seems somewhat noble of you.
[05:25:37]  Okay.
[05:25:37]  So then you should say that in some terms, you're okay with independent women.
[05:25:41]  No, I just said that.
[05:25:42]  It's because I'm independent that I'm able to do that.
[05:25:44]  Going back to the Griselda point, I think the reason Griselda's not going to date a billionaire is because, passionately speaking, she wants a man who's going to give her that electricity.
[05:25:51]  And it's like, that's what she's biologically wired to do.
[05:25:54]  She doesn't want a man that's just going to give her money.
[05:25:55]  She wants a man who's going to give her passion.
[05:25:56]  I really don't.
[05:25:57]  I mean, again, I can probably say that.
[05:25:59]  It's just like pragmatically super retarded.
[05:26:01]  It's like it is.
[05:26:02]  Like, I have like a passion for, you know, espousing some of this shit.
[05:26:08]  But if some like super hot big labia billionaire woman comes along and she's like, Brian, give me seven children.
[05:26:15]  But hey, look, I want you to be an active father in like this podcast.
[05:26:19]  Look, you're successful.
[05:26:20]  Maybe you make like seven figures a year or whatever.
[05:26:22]  But like, you know, come on.
[05:26:24]  Sweep that off the table.
[05:26:25]  I thought you wanted a woman.
[05:26:26]  I'm taking the fucking deal.
[05:26:28]  Like, I'm taking the deal.
[05:26:29]  So if it's a woman with a big labia, let's say, who's going to be a little bit more.
[05:26:33]  I just cancel everything you do.
[05:26:34]  Wait, if it's a woman with a big labia that meets all of your physical and lust requirements, would you choose that over a billionaire woman?
[05:26:41]  So wait, okay.
[05:26:42]  The two, it's she has a big labia, but she's bigger than you.
[05:26:45]  Or she's a billionaire who's going to sweep you off your feet.
[05:26:49]  She's a labia you've ever seen.
[05:26:52]  I'll take you away from it.
[05:26:53]  You're going to choose what's going to make you feel emotionally like this is what I want.
[05:26:57]  What do you hear?
[05:26:57]  I'll give you my answer, but what do you think I'm going to pick?
[05:27:00]  Big labia.
[05:27:01]  Nope.
[05:27:01]  Oh, that's crazy.
[05:27:02]  Yeah.
[05:27:03]  Deny yourself.
[05:27:04]  Everything you just said.
[05:27:07]  You have the option to just lay back.
[05:27:09]  Bro, take it.
[05:27:10]  Look, I like a woman with big labia, but like...
[05:27:12]  With big what?
[05:27:13]  How long is that going to last?
[05:27:14]  I don't think you understand.
[05:27:15]  Well, it's going to get longer over time.
[05:27:18]  Unless you have a labia plastic.
[05:27:20]  But, Brian, let me ask you: if you found this miracle billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, what would you do if you're married?
[05:27:28]  You have seven children.
[05:27:29]  Wow, snoring.
[05:27:30]  You have seven children with her.
[05:27:31]  Very attractive, yeah.
[05:27:33]  You have seven children with this billionaire woman with a gigantic labia, even bigger than her bank account.
[05:27:38]  Yeah.
[05:27:38]  What would you do if she got a labia plasty after you had children?
[05:27:42]  Oh.
[05:27:42]  And it was bothering her.
[05:27:43]  Oh.
[05:27:45]  This would be a conversation.
[05:27:46]  This would be a conversation, and I would strongly guide her away from it.
[05:27:51]  And, you know, given the type of relationship dynamic I want, I would hope she would defer to my leadership on this particular issue.
[05:27:59]  But you're, I'm assuming in the hypothetical, granting that she's going to do it regardless.
[05:28:04]  Yes.
[05:28:04]  Yes, exactly.
[05:28:08]  She's a billionaire?
[05:28:09]  Yes.
[05:28:10]  I thought you didn't want the boss babe.
[05:28:12]  That's what I thought.
[05:28:12]  I knew it.
[05:28:13]  I was confused.
[05:28:14]  Okay, okay.
[05:28:15]  You do like a boss babe, right?
[05:28:18]  If a woman were to get a labia plasty.
[05:28:20]  I mean, you just made it.
[05:28:21]  If a woman were to get a labia plasty, would you prefer that it's a reduction or an increase?
[05:28:25]  And this increase would go to six inches.
[05:28:27]  No woman would.
[05:28:29]  Which would you prefer?
[05:28:30]  I don't think they have the.
[05:28:32]  I don't think they actually.
[05:28:33]  I mean, they could.
[05:28:35]  Which one would you prefer?
[05:28:37]  A labia plasty?
[05:28:38]  Totally getting rid of it.
[05:28:39]  Like female genital mutilation.
[05:28:41]  Just a hole there.
[05:28:42]  Two holes.
[05:28:43]  Or would you prefer them to get an extension?
[05:28:45]  Would you prefer them to get an extension?
[05:28:47]  Make it six inches.
[05:28:49]  Wait, so this is just about.
[05:28:52]  Yes.
[05:28:54]  You're the labia guy.
[05:28:55]  Have to be a little bit more.
[05:28:57]  I don't know if they can even do extensions.
[05:28:59]  They put two deli ham slices there.
[05:29:02]  You'd go for the extension.
[05:29:03]  I take the kind of thing.
[05:29:04]  Maybe they put Bow Taggie in.
[05:29:07]  It would just be weird.
[05:29:08]  But if I had to.
[05:29:09]  For real, you really would.
[05:29:12]  Between the colours.
[05:29:13]  So she gets the labia plasty and she has an any versus she has an Audi, but then the Audi's.
[05:29:18]  I'm not talking an any.
[05:29:19]  I'm talking like female genital mutilation.
[05:29:21]  Like there's two holes there left over.
[05:29:23]  That's it.
[05:29:23]  Yeah, there's no lips.
[05:29:24]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[05:29:25]  I mean, porn stars do that.
[05:29:27]  The extension.
[05:29:28]  I'll take the extension.
[05:29:29]  The six-inch extension.
[05:29:32]  I take it, bro.
[05:29:33]  I take it.
[05:29:34]  I'm tie into a nod.
[05:29:35]  Raise your hand if you think that's gay.
[05:29:36]  I'll tie it into a paste.
[05:29:37]  He wants to dive into it.
[05:29:38]  Thank you.
[05:29:39]  Wait, if what?
[05:29:40]  What's gay?
[05:29:41]  Do you think that's gay?
[05:29:42]  What?
[05:29:42]  No.
[05:29:42]  Six-inch labia.
[05:29:43]  No, not at all.
[05:29:45]  It's a dominant.
[05:29:46]  It's just more pussy.
[05:29:46]  It's just different vibrations.
[05:29:48]  Oh, my God.
[05:29:50]  Women get yeast infections from gigantic labias.
[05:29:53]  Women get a lot more problems.
[05:29:55]  I don't think it's going to look like a lot.
[05:29:57]  So pussy does rule the world then.
[05:29:59]  I almost feel like it's gay.
[05:30:00]  Wait.
[05:30:02]  It's gay to not like Audis.
[05:30:06]  Because it's labia.
[05:30:07]  Are you talking about labia?
[05:30:09]  Now it's just like.
[05:30:11]  Never mind.
[05:30:11]  I'm not going to go there.
[05:30:12]  Is it an Audi a sign of higher testosterone on average?
[05:30:16]  You know what?
[05:30:16]  I'm sure it is.
[05:30:17]  I have some theories.
[05:30:18]  Like, for example, I've noticed sometimes women who have a bit more body hair, like some arm hair, I look at them and I'm like.
[05:30:28]  No, this is a lot of fun.
[05:30:29]  She might have an Audi.
[05:30:31]  This is from personal experience, not from looking.
[05:30:33]  I have some theories, you know?
[05:30:34]  Well, typically, when it comes to high-powered men in stressful positions, which I would qualify Brian as being in, he likes dominant women who are just going to take control from it.
[05:30:43]  Oh, my dad.
[05:30:44]  That agreement makes sense for the lobby.
[05:30:47]  He just said he wants a woman to defer to him to be so heavy.
[05:30:50]  He could say that.
[05:30:51]  But the big lobbia, hairy arms, maybe she has to be dumb by the labia.
[05:30:57]  Yeah, but it's a billionaire.
[05:31:00]  Labia.
[05:31:02]  It's not a lot like a hotel lobby.
[05:31:04]  Labia.
[05:31:05]  It's still a favorite subject.
[05:31:08]  It's still a woman.
[05:31:11]  It doesn't make it gay.
[05:31:11]  It's still.
[05:31:12]  It's not gay.
[05:31:13]  I argue that.
[05:31:13]  It's not gay.
[05:31:14]  But what I'm saying is, if you want a woman with extra testosterone and you're in a high-control group, typically men who are in those high positions like dominant women, because it gives them a goal of control.
[05:31:27]  You'd be with a billionaire.
[05:31:30]  That's actually true.
[05:31:30]  You said you would be with a billionaire woman over the love of the contrary to my position.
[05:31:35]  It is very much controversial.
[05:31:37]  We want a feminine.
[05:31:40]  He said that a billionaire is an exception, not the rule.
[05:31:42]  Hold on.
[05:31:43]  Yeah.
[05:31:43]  Okay, well, you just said you don't like that.
[05:31:46]  You guys are attributing things that don't even exist.
[05:31:49]  First off, recall when I said she's a billionaire, but she meets my other metrics, right?
[05:31:54]  So, like, my other metrics would be like she defers to my leadership, she's submissive, etc.
[05:31:59]  So, no, I don't have an attraction to dominant women.
[05:32:02]  I find them quite off-putting.
[05:32:04]  It's independent dominant, though.
[05:32:05]  Like, if you're an independent woman, we were talking about dominant women.
[05:32:08]  Her claim was dominant women.
[05:32:09]  Would you like a woman with a bigger lobia than your gender?
[05:32:14]  Yeah.
[05:32:16]  I swear you just started saying that.
[05:32:19]  She can.
[05:32:20]  She can.
[05:32:20]  My lobia.
[05:32:22]  I'm fine with that.
[05:32:23]  I mean, that would be pretty.
[05:32:24]  That's like some world record fucking labia, though.
[05:32:27]  Wait, have you ever heard?
[05:32:28]  Have you ever heard of an O shot or a P shot?
[05:32:31]  Shot?
[05:32:32]  Yeah, I'm wondering what you think about O shots and P shots.
[05:32:35]  I don't know what that is.
[05:32:37]  So it's, you get your blood drawn, and dare I say I've had this done.
[05:32:42]  You get your blood drawn, and they separate the plasma from the blood.
[05:32:46]  And the plasma has stem cells.
[05:32:48]  And you, if you're a man, you inject the tip.
[05:32:51]  If you're a woman, you inject the clip in the vaginal walls.
[05:32:54]  And it's supposed to make you orgasm 100 times better.
[05:32:57]  You got the big labia.
[05:32:58]  What?
[05:32:58]  You did?
[05:32:59]  No, this was this.
[05:33:00]  I got this after the labia plastic.
[05:33:02]  Is that real?
[05:33:03]  Yeah.
[05:33:03]  That's a real thing.
[05:33:04]  That's a real thing, yep.
[05:33:05]  And it works though.
[05:33:07]  Yeah.
[05:33:07]  You got it?
[05:33:07]  I don't know.
[05:33:08]  I got it on.
[05:33:09]  Oh, damn.
[05:33:10]  What are your thoughts?
[05:33:11]  Where were we?
[05:33:11]  I totally forgot where we were.
[05:33:13]  I don't even know.
[05:33:14]  We're talking about height.
[05:33:16]  We're talking about height.
[05:33:17]  What are the pros to this?
[05:33:18]  Dating requirements.
[05:33:20]  What about birth control?
[05:33:21]  Disagree.
[05:33:22]  I'm against.
[05:33:23]  What about it?
[05:33:23]  I'm again.
[05:33:24]  It goes to hormone and all this stuff.
[05:33:26]  But it prevents accidental pregnancy, which under your worldview, I would assume.
[05:33:30]  We could hear this.
[05:33:32]  What's that?
[05:33:32]  Birth control debate?
[05:33:33]  Yeah, for a few minutes.
[05:33:34]  All right, non-hormonalism.
[05:33:36]  So essentially, birth control changes the type of man that a woman finds attractive.
[05:33:39]  So, like, let's say you're on birth control when you're in high school.
[05:33:42]  You meet a guy.
[05:33:42]  He's great.
[05:33:43]  He's so nice.
[05:33:44]  He's only five foot eight, but whatever.
[05:33:45]  You know, you find him.
[05:33:46]  He's a nice guy.
[05:33:47]  He's going to be a computer scientist or whatever.
[05:33:49]  You get married to him.
[05:33:50]  Then you're like 28 years old and you're like, hey, let's have some kids.
[05:33:52]  So you get off birth control.
[05:33:54]  And then what happens is when you get off that birth control to have kids or whatever, your natural state of what you find attractive will then shift to a more masculine type of guy.
[05:34:03]  So then when you have like two kids already, you're like, crap, I haven't found my husband attractive in like five years.
[05:34:07]  But geez, Tyrone from high school being very, you know, high testosterone or whatever, he's very attractive.
[05:34:12]  I'm going to go cheat on my husband.
[05:34:13]  I'm going to get a divorce with my husband.
[05:34:14]  He's a wimp.
[05:34:15]  I think it's a crazy reach to say that.
[05:34:17]  Yeah, that was like they are all the same that happens.
[05:34:21]  That's okay.
[05:34:22]  Wait, so the phenomenon that Riley's talking about and that she's agreeing with is that when women are taking hormonal birth control, they have done studies on this.
[05:34:33]  And I think I'm not sure the exact methodology, but they'll like show women faces, pictures of faces of men, and they'll use like men who have more feminine characteristics versus men who have more masculine characteristics.
[05:34:48]  And when women are on birth control, they actually find men who have more like feminine, soft features more attractive when they're on hormonal birth control.
[05:34:56]  So imagine what happens.
[05:34:57]  Attraction would completely like plummet to the ground and do a 180.
[05:35:01]  I don't know how that shows you that's what I'm saying.
[05:35:02]  But I just think the claim is it's like, okay, they know like it's to degrees.
[05:35:07]  Yep, I don't think that degree would be right in short.
[05:35:09]  Some women.
[05:35:11]  Yes, I think birth control should be banned.
[05:35:12]  Also, birth control causes an abortion at a very early stage at around five days.
[05:35:16]  So essentially, you can still conceive when you're on birth control.
[05:35:19]  The main function of birth control is to prevent ovulation.
[05:35:23]  The secondary function of birth control is that if you do conceive, it'll thin the lining of your uterine wall so much that the conceived egg can not implant on the uterine wall.
[05:35:32]  So, for that reason, birth control should be banned because it is murder because abortion is murder.
[05:35:36]  It's quite common sense, actually.
[05:35:38]  And then the other reason is because it makes women want to divorce their husbands.

=== Birth Control And Cheating (03:29) ===

[05:35:41]  If you actually look at the birth control usage rates in divorce rates, they actually perfectly coincide with like a three-year delay.
[05:35:48]  It is perfectly coincided.
[05:35:49]  If you look at divorce rates in America from like 1960 to modern day, to birth control rates from 1960 to modern day, perfectly coincides with it.
[05:35:58]  And so, yeah, birth control changes the type of man that you find attractive.
[05:36:01]  So, when you get on it or off of it while you're with a guy or married to him, there's a really likely chance that you will not find him attractive anymore.
[05:36:09]  And that's the main reason why the majority of divorces are initiated by women nowadays.
[05:36:13]  I have an argument against birth control from a different position.
[05:36:16]  Me too.
[05:36:17]  Can I voice it?
[05:36:18]  Yeah.
[05:36:18]  So, birth control, when it was popularized, it actually people thought, well, this will decrease the need for abortion.
[05:36:27]  This will eliminate people, prevent pregnancies.
[05:36:30]  But the reality is, once the birth control pill was introduced, people started having way more casual sex, so much so that abortion rates actually rose like exponentially because people were having so much more casual sex.
[05:36:44]  Birth control is abortion, anyways.
[05:36:46]  I also, well, even if you're not defining it that way, I'm not just being $200.
[05:36:50]  Yo, Sam's mom.
[05:36:53]  I can tell she caused most of her problem.
[05:36:56]  Tamu Charlie Kirk over here somehow, making viewers less space.
[05:37:01]  W Hannah, as always, we got you some steak plaza finish up quick.
[05:37:05]  Here's number 10.
[05:37:06]  Wait, what?
[05:37:07]  That's you.
[05:37:08]  I didn't understand what he said.
[05:37:10]  He said that, well, yeah.
[05:37:14]  He said that.
[05:37:15]  Your insult was worse, though, not going to lie.
[05:37:17]  Well, can I come at the birth control argument from another perspective?
[05:37:21]  You know what?
[05:37:21]  I'm going to actually let Riley just have his word on that, and I got to move it on for the sake of time.
[05:37:27]  Downdraft, around the table, who would be okay with a 5'8, 80K a year, good father and role model, but you never have to work and can do whatever you want as long as you submit to him.
[05:37:37]  Would you be willing to do that knowing that if you don't, then he will see other women that are willing to submit.
[05:37:43]  I mean, that sounds chill.
[05:37:45]  No.
[05:37:46]  What does he mean by submit?
[05:37:48]  If he's a Christian.
[05:37:49]  Yeah.
[05:37:49]  Is it just like submitting?
[05:37:50]  Oh, you mean by that?
[05:37:51]  I don't know what that means.
[05:37:52]  Not without like deferred to him in the middle.
[05:37:54]  I mean, overall, I would just say yes.
[05:37:57]  That sounds good to me.
[05:37:58]  It's basically just like he's a good father.
[05:38:01]  He's 5'8.
[05:38:02]  He makes 80K a year.
[05:38:04]  He's only cheating if you're not submitting, though.
[05:38:06]  But that's the thing.
[05:38:06]  Why would he cheat?
[05:38:07]  He shouldn't be cheating in the first person.
[05:38:08]  Exactly.
[05:38:09]  That's not a good father.
[05:38:10]  If he's not happy with you, then he should just end the relationship or cheat.
[05:38:13]  Well, why does cheating need to come in?
[05:38:16]  You could technically be a good father.
[05:38:17]  No, he can't be a cheater.
[05:38:19]  How is that a good father?
[05:38:20]  Cheating affects the child.
[05:38:22]  Cheating affects the child's life.
[05:38:24]  If she doesn't find that.
[05:38:25]  But aren't you supposed to set an example?
[05:38:29]  Cheating is bad.
[05:38:30]  Cheating is bad.
[05:38:31]  Don't do it.
[05:38:32]  But technically, Shauna and I thought 100% on this.
[05:38:36]  No, you can't be a good father and cheat at all.
[05:38:38]  So you betrayed the whole thing.
[05:38:39]  A good father cannot cheat.
[05:38:40]  No.
[05:38:41]  A good father cannot cheat.
[05:38:42]  So your father is not good.
[05:38:43]  Why would you check out the father?
[05:38:44]  For doing that?
[05:38:45]  Yeah.
[05:38:45]  That's why I lost.
[05:38:47]  I think you could be a good parent and a bad spouse.
[05:38:50]  I think.
[05:38:50]  I think.
[05:38:51]  Well, if you're a good parent, you wouldn't hurt the other spouse.
[05:38:54]  If you're a good mother, you would take care of the father.
[05:38:56]  And if you're a good father, you take care of the good mother.
[05:38:59]  I also believe people can change.
[05:39:01]  My ex-husband was a dick, but he was young.
[05:39:03]  He was stupid.
[05:39:04]  Now he's a good person.
[05:39:05]  So back to this.
[05:39:06]  But I want to clarify: like, now my father is a good father.
[05:39:08]  And I don't want to talk to you.
[05:39:10]  That's good.
[05:39:10]  That's good.

=== Submissive Gender Roles (15:08) ===

[05:39:11]  So, anyways, you were saying the narrative against women, that's what you disagree with.
[05:39:17]  They push.
[05:39:18]  I just feel like in general, I have, like I said, I have been watching the podcast for a while.
[05:39:22]  I just feel like, you know, even though I lean more, you know, I'm anti-feminist type of thing.
[05:39:29]  But yeah, I feel like sometimes they push the narrative too much against women somehow, you know?
[05:39:33]  Okay, how so?
[05:39:35]  You know, I don't have this exact, how can I say the exact thing to say at this point, but I feel like, you know, watching the show through some months, probably like years now, I have seen that.
[05:39:49]  I mean, that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
[05:39:53]  I'm not, I mean, if you're not willing or able to articulate what precisely the narrative against women is that I am pushing, it's hard for me to engage with that.
[05:40:04]  I'm not going to make your arguments for you.
[05:40:06]  That's fine.
[05:40:07]  So is there anything that you can point to that would be indicative of the narrative against women that is pushed by me?
[05:40:16]  Not really at this point.
[05:40:17]  I mean, there's so many ideas floating that, yeah, we've been talking for a while.
[05:40:21]  No, I don't have anything.
[05:40:23]  Really?
[05:40:24]  Yeah.
[05:40:25]  So there's nothing?
[05:40:30]  No, I mean, like I said, it just feels on my perspective that, you know, watching the show through several years, I feel now, yeah, that's how it feels, that there's a lot of negativity towards women in general, you know, watching several episodes.
[05:40:45]  Okay, what is the negativity towards women?
[05:40:48]  I just feel like, you know, like I have seen a couple of things where you say that women should be submissive.
[05:40:54]  How would that be negative?
[05:40:56]  I feel like, I mean, I'm not submissive at all.
[05:40:59]  And I don't think women are not.
[05:41:00]  I can tell you, I'm not trying to date you, though.
[05:41:02]  No, but I don't think women should be submissive.
[05:41:05]  I feel like in a relationship, we should be an equal.
[05:41:08]  Well, define in your terms, define submissive, I guess.
[05:41:11]  Well, submissive for me will be, you know, kind of like if the man tells her not to work and she agrees to that.
[05:41:19]  I feel like that can be seen a little bit as submissive.
[05:41:24]  And I personally like the question before that you said that I thought the question before that you asked me if I was willing to leave my work and date a, I mean, or marry on Billinger, I wouldn't do it because I'm not submissive.
[05:41:39]  I mean, I think I'm an independent woman.
[05:41:41]  I think I can do everything for myself.
[05:41:43]  So yeah, I think, yeah, I'm against being submissive towards a man.
[05:41:48]  Okay, so in your questionnaire here, you circled the following, that you agree with the following statements.
[05:41:53]  Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
[05:41:56]  Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
[05:41:58]  Yes.
[05:41:59]  Take the bullet.
[05:42:00]  Absolutely.
[05:42:01]  Okay, so don't you think...
[05:42:05]  So is it if it's wrong for me to say women should be submissive, why is it not wrong for you to say that men should provide, men should protect, men should be chivalrous, and that the husband should be willing to die protecting you?
[05:42:19]  It seems like it's a bigger call to sacrifice, a bigger call to action to say men should be willing to die than to simply say women should follow their husband's lead, boyfriend's lead, be submissive.
[05:42:31]  That seems like a bigger.
[05:42:32]  Well, I still kind of follow my husband's lead, but I wouldn't be submissive.
[05:42:36]  I just think it's a, you know, that's an.
[05:42:38]  Submissive is the word that you guys have.
[05:42:41]  Yeah, I think people are hung up on the word submissive, and they think it's like Susie Homemaker, 1950s.
[05:42:46]  Or like the other one.
[05:42:47]  I'm like, yeah, it's not like that.
[05:42:49]  Submissive just means like letting the man lead.
[05:42:51]  And we want a manly man to take lead.
[05:42:54]  That's basically.
[05:42:55]  It also just means deferring to his authority, his judgment, his leadership, his authority.
[05:43:02]  I disagree because in my marriage, at least, we take 50-50.
[05:43:06]  I mean, I feel like a marriage should be 50-50.
[05:43:08]  This is all preference-based.
[05:43:10]  You say that?
[05:43:10]  Women say that they want 50-50.
[05:43:12]  But let me ask, when you went on a first date with him, who paid for the date?
[05:43:16]  He did.
[05:43:17]  How about the sucks suck?
[05:43:20]  Subsequent dates.
[05:43:21]  Who paid for them?
[05:43:22]  Kidded.
[05:43:23]  Okay, and then in terms of the contribution to the current household, is it 50-50?
[05:43:28]  It is 50-50.
[05:43:29]  It's 50-50 now.
[05:43:30]  Exactly.
[05:43:31]  50-50?
[05:43:32]  I mean, basically, you know, he has a job outside of the restaurants that we own.
[05:43:37]  And yeah, but I mean, he pays for things.
[05:43:40]  I pay for stuff in the restaurant.
[05:43:42]  So you're subsidizing your restaurant.
[05:43:43]  It's a cultural difference, though, because within Hispanic culture, the element of wanting that passionate love, which involves a lot of toxic elements, is what's prioritized.
[05:43:52]  Hold on.
[05:43:52]  So, okay, back to this.
[05:43:54]  So, are you saying that who financed your business?
[05:43:58]  Was it strictly you?
[05:44:00]  No, it was between me and him.
[05:44:02]  Mutually.
[05:44:03]  Okay, so, but prior to starting your business, you both worked?
[05:44:07]  Yes, I used to work for him.
[05:44:09]  That's how we met.
[05:44:11]  So I'm assuming if he worked or you worked for him, I'm assuming he was earning more than you.
[05:44:18]  Yes, at that point, yes.
[05:44:20]  And now you co-own a business together.
[05:44:23]  Yes.
[05:44:24]  Which he funded, given that he was the prime, there was the breadwinner.
[05:44:28]  No, no, because I also.
[05:44:30]  You worked for him?
[05:44:31]  Yes, I also had savings.
[05:44:32]  Usually the boss typically makes more money than the employee.
[05:44:36]  Typically.
[05:44:37]  No, typically.
[05:44:38]  But I also had money saved.
[05:44:41]  We opened the restaurants when it was COVID.
[05:44:43]  Can I ask you a question?
[05:44:44]  Uh-huh.
[05:44:45]  Have you ever had to get money from his career and inject it into the business's bank account?
[05:44:49]  Did you not make enough sales?
[05:44:50]  Has that ever happened?
[05:44:52]  That has happened.
[05:44:52]  Okay, that has happened.
[05:44:54]  I thought it was a little fishy when a woman mentioned that she owns a business.
[05:44:57]  I thought it was a little fishy.
[05:44:58]  Has he ever had to get money from you in some way for something else?
[05:45:01]  Yes, it was also.
[05:45:02]  It doesn't let you know.
[05:45:03]  But again, it even sounds because we're married.
[05:45:06]  Why didn't you pay for the date?
[05:45:07]  Why don't you go 50-50 on the date?
[05:45:09]  I thought men and women are equal.
[05:45:11]  Well, because, again, I believed, you know, on first days and all that, men should pay.
[05:45:15]  Did he ask you?
[05:45:16]  Yeah, but he didn't.
[05:45:16]  He asked me out.
[05:45:17]  Yeah, sure.
[05:45:18]  That doesn't matter.
[05:45:19]  Why it doesn't matter?
[05:45:20]  Because women don't ask out.
[05:45:21]  But if you asked him out, would you ask me?
[05:45:22]  Women don't ask out men, so it's fucking retarded.
[05:45:25]  I do.
[05:45:25]  But Mexican men are very traditional.
[05:45:27]  They don't pay.
[05:45:27]  It would be an insult to them.
[05:45:29]  That would be insult to me.
[05:45:31]  My husband.
[05:45:31]  No, let me tell you, my husband, he literally looks like Brian.
[05:45:35]  I don't know what the hell.
[05:45:37]  Physically, he looks like Brian.
[05:45:39]  I'll do it if he does.
[05:45:41]  He's white as hell.
[05:45:43]  That's great.
[05:45:44]  But yeah, but I mean, it's like you said.
[05:45:46]  He paid for the first date.
[05:45:47]  He paid up for all the other dates.
[05:45:48]  If you genuinely believe in equality, you should.
[05:45:51]  I understand that men have the have this, you know, perhaps expectation placed on them to pay.
[05:45:58]  You should have insisted, though.
[05:45:59]  You certainly could have insisted that you split the bill.
[05:46:04]  And if that wasn't a possibility, you should have paid for the next time, but you didn't.
[05:46:08]  No.
[05:46:08]  He kept paying for how many.
[05:46:11]  Did he continue paying for dates throughout the course of the relationship?
[05:46:14]  Yes.
[05:46:15]  And did you ever, you didn't even insist?
[05:46:19]  Okay, so it's only equality when it suits you.
[05:46:22]  So when it comes to receiving perks of traditional gender roles, then you'll happily, okay, oh, I'm just a woman.
[05:46:31]  But when it comes to, you know, the roles in the relationship, you want to perhaps have an egalitarian.
[05:46:38]  No, but even if I wanted to pay, for the type of person that my husband is, he's conservative as hell.
[05:46:46]  He wouldn't even let me.
[05:46:47]  It's not even.
[05:46:48]  Then you have to dump him.
[05:46:49]  Then you have an egalitarian imperative to say, listen, fucker, I'm paying for the fucking date.
[05:46:55]  Otherwise, I'm breaking up with you.
[05:46:57]  That's your imperative as a fundamental.
[05:46:58]  Would you say that on a first date?
[05:47:00]  That's so weird to say on a first date.
[05:47:02]  You said 50-50.
[05:47:03]  You're 50-50.
[05:47:05]  I feel like I will do a 50-50 if I'm not trying to date or to date actually this guy.
[05:47:11]  And if I'm actually being as a friend.
[05:47:13]  Yeah, I do that.
[05:47:15]  So, okay, if you go on the date and you know you don't like the guy, then you'll pay for the bill.
[05:47:19]  But in instances where you do want to pursue an egalitarian relationship, the guy should pay for the bill.
[05:47:25]  Do you have children by chance?
[05:47:26]  We do, too.
[05:47:27]  That's the thing.
[05:47:27]  I'm like, if you're working and having sex with him and paying for everything or whatever, and you have kids, then it's more than 50-50 at that point.
[05:47:35]  You've given him children, you've given him money, and you're giving him sex and passion.
[05:47:39]  So it's like, that's a whole different other definition of egalitarianism.
[05:47:42]  And I add within Mexican culture, egalitarianism means something completely different than the American WASP definition of it.
[05:47:48]  Yeah, it actually does.
[05:47:49]  Hold on, we have a super chat.
[05:47:50]  Shona, could you read this for us?
[05:47:52]  It's called Testing the Ideology Stance and Willingness to Conform to a Man.
[05:47:56]  Brian, you test this with the bow.
[05:47:57]  Most of them failed.
[05:47:58]  First thing they said was cheating.
[05:47:59]  I never said cheating, lol shows the victim mentality they have when they're not a victim in this.
[05:48:04]  Yeah, here, I can give an example of like when I think a woman should be submissive.
[05:48:08]  So, and this is like not just imaginary, hypothetical.
[05:48:14]  This is something I've actually encountered multiple times with women.
[05:48:18]  You can hide the downdraft.
[05:48:19]  Thank you for the super chat.
[05:48:20]  Appreciate it.
[05:48:22]  So one thing I prefer, I value my sleep substantially.
[05:48:27]  So I actually prefer sleeping in separate bedrooms.
[05:48:31]  So that's really unconventional.
[05:48:35]  Yeah.
[05:48:35]  That's weird, though.
[05:48:37]  Why?
[05:48:37]  Right, right.
[05:48:37]  So it's lucky a deal breaker for a lot of women out there.
[05:48:40]  Yeah.
[05:48:40]  So be it.
[05:48:40]  Well, they're going to have to defer to me on this.
[05:48:43]  So I believe that my sleep quality and getting a good night's sleep supersedes the woman's desire for like plus 3% intimacy.
[05:48:53]  My sleep.
[05:48:54]  Yeah, I don't care.
[05:48:57]  My being able to get a good night's sleep supersedes the woman wanting plus three intimacy.
[05:49:04]  What about like a king-size bed?
[05:49:05]  That's still not big enough.
[05:49:06]  How much do you think?
[05:49:07]  It doesn't matter.
[05:49:07]  It's a big thing.
[05:49:08]  I mean, if a guy is snoring really loud, though, I kind of agree.
[05:49:11]  I love my fiancé, but he snores like a father.
[05:49:13]  Let me get to the point.
[05:49:14]  So, and just to be clear, look, it's not an impossibility.
[05:49:18]  Sometimes I'll allow it, but I do think that I've had instances where, you know, the girl comes over.
[05:49:30]  Maybe we sleep together.
[05:49:31]  Maybe we don't.
[05:49:32]  And I mean sex.
[05:49:33]  I'm not meaning sleeping together.
[05:49:35]  And it's not like I'm kicking her out right after, but maybe we'll watch a movie afterwards.
[05:49:40]  And then it's like, oh, it's getting late.
[05:49:41]  Time to sleep.
[05:49:42]  I'm going to get you set up in the guest room.
[05:49:45]  I've had a couple.
[05:49:46]  Some women are totally cool with it.
[05:49:47]  They're like, yep, no problem.
[05:49:48]  Got it, Brian.
[05:49:50]  Other women give me so much flack.
[05:49:53]  I've had women crash out on me over this.
[05:49:55]  I've got to go out the guest room.
[05:49:56]  Huh?
[05:49:57]  About the guest room?
[05:49:58]  Yeah, I'm like wanting to set them up in the other bedroom.
[05:50:01]  Like, I've had women crash out.
[05:50:04]  I've had women throw fits.
[05:50:06]  I've had women on the verge of tears over this.
[05:50:11]  I kind of get it.
[05:50:12]  Yeah, but I don't know.
[05:50:13]  No, that's fucking rotten.
[05:50:14]  I don't get that idea for sex.
[05:50:17]  For me, I will feel like that.
[05:50:18]  Hell yeah.
[05:50:19]  Yeah, but if I tell you, hey, by the way, it's not, I'm not like, well, I think if it was using me for sex, I'd be like just kicking you out of the house.
[05:50:28]  But if I tell the woman, it's like, it's not that I dislike you, but I do not get good sleep sharing a bed.
[05:50:36]  And like, I'm going to be, I'm going to be, let's say she's visiting me for a day, two, three days.
[05:50:42]  I'm going to be in a bad mood if I don't get good sleep.
[05:50:46]  I need to get good sleep for my work.
[05:50:48]  So in that instance, look, it's okay for the woman to have a preference.
[05:50:52]  The woman can obviously, and I'd say most women probably prefer to sleep in the same bed as a man.
[05:51:00]  However, women need to temper and women need to regulate their emotional response to that situation.
[05:51:08]  You can want a thing, but then you shouldn't be challenging me on it.
[05:51:12]  You shouldn't be crashing out.
[05:51:14]  Are you open about it?
[05:51:15]  Is this like something that you're upfront about in the beginning?
[05:51:17]  Like they know coming into it.
[05:51:18]  Even if this is like he wasn't and he was upfront about it when they came over, yeah, yeah.
[05:51:24]  I don't think it is something I've like let people know ahead of time, but I don't think there's anything actually objectionable.
[05:51:32]  Like I don't think I need to disclose to somebody beforehand, like, hey, by the way, I like this can be like a revelation.
[05:51:39]  Yes, exactly.
[05:51:40]  This can be a revelation in that moment without any prior sort of, I don't know what the right term is, prior league, prior disclosure.
[05:51:51]  Yes.
[05:51:52]  I would say that.
[05:51:53]  So, yeah, the woman should defer to me on this.
[05:51:55]  And look, she can have a preference.
[05:51:57]  She could want to sleep with me in the bed.
[05:52:00]  But if I say it, that's the end of the conversation.
[05:52:03]  But that's not submission, though.
[05:52:05]  That's just you basically respecting your own boundary.
[05:52:07]  When it comes to submission, I would define that as whether it's spending, safety, whether it comes to ultimate big home decisions.
[05:52:14]  Well, you defer to the man.
[05:52:15]  It's a smaller thing.
[05:52:16]  It is.
[05:52:17]  Well, for some women, it's a big thing.
[05:52:18]  A lot.
[05:52:19]  Well, that's why I think you should be upfront about it.
[05:52:20]  It would be a lack of submission for a woman to argue with me about it, crash out, and question it and cause friction and conflict because of this.
[05:52:31]  That would be a lack.
[05:52:32]  Like the submissive thing would be to be like, oh, but I really like she could be like, I really want to.
[05:52:39]  And then I'm like, I'm sorry, but I can't.
[05:52:41]  And she's like, okay.
[05:52:42]  Like, that's okay if she does a little cutesy, disappointed, whatever.
[05:52:45]  You're disappointed.
[05:52:46]  I fucking get it.
[05:52:47]  But don't crash.
[05:52:48]  Like, I'm not even screaming in the middle of the day.
[05:52:50]  I've had women, like, I've had women in the bed, like, oh my God, like, throwing a fucking fit over it.
[05:53:00]  And that's crazy.
[05:53:01]  I 100% agree, but I still, the reason I disagree on it being submission is because that's them disrespecting your emotional boundary.
[05:53:08]  That's not a matter of you controlling their life.
[05:53:10]  That's a matter of you having basically control over your own personal boundaries.
[05:53:15]  But when it comes to submission, I would say the reason why, in my opinion, honestly, fact, that you should defer to a man that you trust is because men are a bit more sensible when it comes to emotional impulses.
[05:53:25]  Women don't really have a strong grasp as to the dangers that are around them nor the spending habits that might be enticing to them.
[05:53:31]  So I think having a man that you can defer to, and that's me having more money than the person I'm with, he's the one who ultimately decides when I can spend money because I know I have a thrifting habit.
[05:53:41]  So he's the one that keeps me safe.
[05:53:42]  He's the one that says, I don't know about this.
[05:53:44]  I think you might get in trouble, even though I might want to do something.
[05:53:47]  So I think that's ultimately submission.
[05:53:48]  So he makes defense money.
[05:53:50]  Yeah, 100% because I trust his mind.
[05:53:52]  That's why I love him, is because I trust who he is.
[05:53:55]  He is my masculine counterpart.
[05:53:57]  Where whenever I have faults as a woman, he as a man can guide me.
[05:54:00]  And whenever he feels like he's not being emotionally nurtured by this world, I then as a woman can compliment him with my feminine traits and say, you're the best person in the world.
[05:54:10]  Yeah, but so back to your thing, though, the narrative against women, and then there was some other framing that you used.

=== Spicy Latina Submission (04:08) ===

[05:54:19]  You objected to the women should be submissive thing.
[05:54:24]  Yeah, I mean, I don't actually see the problem with that.
[05:54:28]  I mean, different views.
[05:54:29]  Again, like I said, I just feel like, culturally speaking, there's a lot of differences.
[05:54:36]  Again, women in Mexico usually.
[05:54:41]  They're more submissive than American women.
[05:54:43]  I don't know what you're talking about.
[05:54:44]  No, they're psychotic.
[05:54:44]  They'll stab you over a dream.
[05:54:46]  Like, it depends on your vision.
[05:54:48]  No, you're not.
[05:54:50]  Hold on.
[05:54:50]  It's Latin American women.
[05:54:52]  This like toxic, spicy Latina thing or whatever, that's fucking retarded.
[05:54:55]  But Latin American women are typically more traditional.
[05:55:01]  They're more conservative.
[05:55:02]  They're more submissive than their American counterparts.
[05:55:06]  They're feminists.
[05:55:07]  They are, but actually, you know, I feel like my generation, The age that I share with a lot of Mexican or whatever, you know, no, like we are like this, you know, we're kind of like we're not submissive, we are, you know, very independent, and basically, yeah, and we also like a man that is masculine, you know, I know it's it's weird.
[05:55:30]  So, why should men be masculine if you don't want to submit?
[05:55:36]  I don't.
[05:55:36]  If the passion, la toxica, so what do men get?
[05:55:39]  So, okay, for you, a man should provide, protect, he should be chivalrous, he should be willing to die protecting you.
[05:55:45]  Uh, if we're allowed to say that men should do all these things, what can men say women should?
[05:55:51]  What should women do?
[05:55:54]  I mean, if we're talking about that, I gave him his children.
[05:55:58]  He also gave you children, yeah, he contributed the genetic material to he didn't give birth to them or raise them.
[05:56:05]  I was the one doing all the hard work for them.
[05:56:08]  Okay, so gender rules only exist within the confines of pregnancy.
[05:56:11]  It's not that it's not gender roles, it's biology.
[05:56:15]  A man, you're a woman's function is to give a man children.
[05:56:18]  So, just to be clear, your position is as long as a woman gives a man children, she can be a raging, quarrelsome bitch.
[05:56:24]  Is that your position?
[05:56:26]  I'm asking, what should women do beyond just procreation?
[05:56:30]  What should women do?
[05:56:32]  But if we're boiling it down to he has to provide financials, I want to hear her.
[05:56:37]  So, so, yes, I think giving children is a component of the value of women, but it has to go like in terms of the woman's behavior.
[05:56:46]  I'm looking at like what should women do.
[05:56:51]  Joe, in what instance, though?
[05:56:53]  Why are you also referring to?
[05:56:55]  Again, I do a lot of things for my husband.
[05:56:58]  I do a lot of things that, you know, I feel like I say it's a 50-50.
[05:57:03]  The way he provides for me, the way he protects me, the way he's willing to take a bullet for me, I also am willing to do a lot of things for him.
[05:57:10]  I take care of him, I provide for him, you know.
[05:57:13]  He has a hard-working woman, you know, but he subsidizes your business.
[05:57:17]  No, because again, it's ours, it's both of us.
[05:57:21]  Okay, so does he work as many hours as you do on the business?
[05:57:24]  No, he does not.
[05:57:25]  I work with it.
[05:57:26]  So, you're primarily running it.
[05:57:28]  I run the business, yeah.
[05:57:30]  He has his son.
[05:57:30]  Wait, how old are your kids?
[05:57:32]  Uh, I have a 14-year-old and a nine-year-old.
[05:57:37]  Um, okay.
[05:57:38]  And uh, when you're running your business, is he is he taking care of the kids?
[05:57:43]  Who's taking care of the kids?
[05:57:45]  No, my parents, your parents, well, that's better than daycare, but um, I think it'd probably be better if you were taking care of the kids as the mom.
[05:57:59]  I mean, I usually do again, since I'm a business owner, I so let's just say I wake up, I get my girls ready every morning.
[05:58:06]  I do like the general gender roles, I get my get my girls ready, I give my husband his lunch for the day, I make lunch for my girls as well, you know, and then I drop them up to school.
[05:58:18]  I go to work, you know, from let's just say when my girls are in school, and then I go pick them up every day, I make dinner for everybody.

=== Clout Chasing Relationships (14:36) ===

[05:58:27]  So, yeah, I mean, I feel like I fulfill a lot of those things.
[05:58:31]  For the sake of time, I have to move it on.
[05:58:33]  Um, but uh, okay, going to you, you said the rating the guests can be harsh, yeah.
[05:58:40]  Whenever you base, like, rate us after we rate ourselves, do you think I was harsh today?
[05:58:47]  A little, a little bit, okay.
[05:58:50]  I think you should do it at the beginning and not because we have a human tendency to judge people, even if you're not trying to, you're just trying to judge it off looks, you have a human tendency to judge off of someone's personality.
[05:59:01]  You should do it from the beginning, not the no, no, Brian's a professional.
[05:59:06]  Yeah.
[05:59:06]  Okay.
[05:59:07]  I even if like if I'm not gonna like okay, she's conservative and she agrees with me on everything I'm still gonna give her an unbiased as unbiased as I can rating.
[05:59:18]  I'm not gonna like give her a more positive rating because she agrees with me on shit.
[05:59:22]  Like I'll just look at their looks and I'm not gonna like even if somebody rubs me the wrong like if a really attractive woman is on the show and she's just annoying as fuck I'm not gonna like rate her looks lower just cuz.
[05:59:35]  But I guess moving off of that Lise Lise doing the laundry for you is crazy.
[05:59:43]  That's a disagreement that you have go into that.
[05:59:47]  I do want to clarify is that on the first date that you've said that the first date they should do laundry or just like throughout TV.
[05:59:54]  So the my framing is the first time she's over, which could be the first time hanging out, but yeah, she should do laundry for me right away and cook and clean right away.
[06:00:09]  I still, I still think that's crazy.
[06:00:12]  Why why well, I don't know.
[06:00:16]  That's wife behavior.
[06:00:18]  And what are you doing right away in return for the woman paying for the dinner?
[06:00:23]  Are you dead serious?
[06:00:24]  So if you have a girl, she's cooking the dinner.
[06:00:29]  Well, there's a couple questions that have been thrown out there.
[06:00:32]  So what?
[06:00:33]  What was?
[06:00:33]  I don't know?
[06:00:34]  I'll go one by one.
[06:00:35]  I guess I don't remember what I asked.
[06:00:37]  But to be fair with my disagreement, I don't expect people to pay on the first date.
[06:00:47]  If I did expect that, then I could see maybe, like you gotta clean for them or do something.
[06:00:55]  Maybe not clean, I don't even I.
[06:00:57]  It's for me.
[06:00:57]  It's not a transactional thing.
[06:00:59]  It's like I did this, so you do this.
[06:01:02]  That's changing it's.
[06:01:04]  It should.
[06:01:04]  She should want to.
[06:01:06]  She should just want to do it.
[06:01:08]  I don't want to have to like remind her.
[06:01:10]  I don't want to have to like buoy her into doing it.
[06:01:13]  Could it be washing dishes?
[06:01:15]  Hold on, hold on, hold on anyone.
[06:01:17]  I should have done it for you.
[06:01:19]  That's yeah.
[06:01:19]  That's why I was yes, all the fucking time.
[06:01:21]  But I hold on.
[06:01:23]  Why hold on?
[06:01:24]  I'll give women some game here now.
[06:01:26]  You guys might really hate this.
[06:01:27]  That I wanted as a man, but if you actually wanted to like massively boost your success rate some, I know some of you are in your in relationships, but if, let's say, you're single right, I'm genuinely telling you.
[06:01:43]  Offer to do it.
[06:01:44]  Like the first time you go to a guy's house, offer to do something for him.
[06:01:49]  Maybe it's not the laundry, maybe you could be like can I tidy up for you a little bit, can I?
[06:01:54]  How can I be of service, sir slash master, how can I be of service to you?
[06:02:01]  And I'm telling you.
[06:02:01]  You might think it's cringe and look, most guys might be taken a little bit aback because it's like whoa, I've never had a guy do this.
[06:02:07]  But they'll appreciate it and in their thought agent, at that point in the guy's mind yeah, it could be in the guy's mind uh, he's thinking like whoa, who is this girl?
[06:02:17]  Like that's, that's dope, like that's cool.
[06:02:19]  Now, i'm not saying all some guys might think it's weird whatever, but i'm i'm telling you, try it out and uh, that's gonna be, a lot of guys are gonna look at that and like you way more and look, if you're dealing, especially if you're dealing with, like uh, if this is a guy you really really like and you want to land him, you want to, you want to have him, you want to keep him pussy ain't enough.
[06:02:43]  You got to offer more, you got to offer more.
[06:02:46]  I think the first date is crazy, but maybe, like the first week, like my fiancé and I, like we, we were uh, did it basic, we just went out to pizza and then, after a week of constantly hanging out, I was like hey, your car is dirty, do you want me to clean this out for you?
[06:02:59]  And he appreciated it Literally covered in just garbage, and I just removed everything, and he was really thankful for me.
[06:03:06]  I do think that the first date is actually not a good thing, Brian, because if a girl is in your house or apartment on the first date, that's not a good sign.
[06:03:13]  Aren't you worried about women chasing you for clout, too?
[06:03:16]  Like by doing all that, like, oh, it's Brian Atlas.
[06:03:18]  Oh, they're going to do my laundry for clout.
[06:03:20]  I mean, the thing is, is like I've had this place.
[06:03:23]  I've dated, I've started the podcast back in 2022.
[06:03:27]  I've dated women throughout that time.
[06:03:29]  I've had relationships and whatnot.
[06:03:31]  And women who date me get zero clout.
[06:03:35]  Like, if you're dating me, you're not, you're not getting any publicity.
[06:03:40]  You're not on the show.
[06:03:41]  Plus, I'm not dating.
[06:03:42]  Like, the type of women I'm attracted to, and at least the ones that come to me, typically they're not like on social media.
[06:03:48]  They're not content creators.
[06:03:49]  They're not influencers.
[06:03:51]  So, I mean, as far as I know, like they haven't received any clout because I, I mean, I would never, a girl I'm dating, I could be in a relationship for a girl with a year.
[06:04:04]  She's never on the radar to anybody.
[06:04:07]  She's, I'm keeping her under wraps.
[06:04:11]  Bro, if I have my girlfriend on the show and like people can find her, she's going to be probably harassed to probably more than me.
[06:04:22]  How big is his dick?
[06:04:24]  Does it, what does he do?
[06:04:25]  Is he weird, blah, blah, blah.
[06:04:27]  Like, no.
[06:04:28]  If I'm dating a woman, she's not, she's not ever getting, you wouldn't even know.
[06:04:32]  Plus, I would honestly say when people think I'm a fucking virgin, like, I've never had a girlfriend or whatever.
[06:04:36]  They wouldn't know.
[06:04:37]  Like, shit, I could have been dating somebody for one year, two years.
[06:04:42]  Nobody would know.
[06:04:42]  When it comes to Brian's standard of like a girl doing his laundry, that's pretty much the equivalent of a girl saying, I want a man who's a gentleman-based.
[06:04:48]  Yeah, but I'm also thinking, like, okay, so if you say, like, hypothetically, you go over to this guy's house and you do this thing for him, isn't he going to expect that more?
[06:04:56]  And if he expects it more, is it going to be a way to like take advantage of you because you did this thing for him?
[06:05:01]  Are you saying it as a lady?
[06:05:05]  You've been talking to this girl for a while, and then this is her first night over and she does this thing.
[06:05:09]  But that's something she has that skill set, then she's independent in her own resources.
[06:05:13]  And if she's not taking advantage, then she's going to leave and he'll be hurt by that because he lost someone that was valuable to him.
[06:05:18]  That's cool, too.
[06:05:19]  I think my answer comes from if you live with somebody, then yeah, I think that he can expect that from you to like, I don't know, clean up after him or something.
[06:05:30]  And I've, my current relationship, I lived with him before we got together.
[06:05:35]  So like I started out doing that.
[06:05:38]  I can see doesn't get complicated.
[06:05:41]  I think it's fair that I also provide a bit more context here.
[06:05:46]  This pretty much will not work for normal men.
[06:05:54]  Like it will not work.
[06:05:55]  Like you can't go on a dating app and it's not a one-night stand thing.
[06:05:58]  Well, hold on.
[06:05:59]  No, you can't go on a dating app or meet a girl at a bar.
[06:06:02]  Now, if she voluntarily does it, because like that's just innate to her, you're not going to have the leverage for most, in most situations to either have the expectation or ever like have this be a thing where the first time the girl comes over to your house.
[06:06:17]  I mean, you know, you could try.
[06:06:19]  You might be able to do like a team laundry thing where it's like, okay, let's fold it together.
[06:06:26]  But I need to provide some important context.
[06:06:29]  Ever since I started this podcast, now I've shot my shot here and there.
[06:06:35]  And so I've shot my shot and I have less leverage in that situation.
[06:06:40]  The majority of the women I've dated since 2022 have all contacted me.
[06:06:45]  So that's a very different dynamic you guys should be aware of.
[06:06:48]  And I suppose I should.
[06:06:51]  Well, because they know you from your podcast.
[06:06:53]  Why would they contact you otherwise?
[06:06:55]  Well, yeah.
[06:06:55]  So it's like when They're, I don't want to frame it as them being the pursuer, but if like they're reaching out to you, you have more leverage.
[06:07:06]  Yeah.
[06:07:07]  And you can set like, okay, here's my like hundred question girlfriend application.
[06:07:12]  Uh, fucking fill it out, you know?
[06:07:15]  And so you have more leverage.
[06:07:18]  And so in that instance, then I can kind of dictate terms a bit better if they're reaching out to me.
[06:07:23]  And the majority of the women I've dated in the past like four years or whatever, they've all reached out to me.
[06:07:30]  All right.
[06:07:30]  I rescind my disagreement based off of you can hold that standard because you are who you are.
[06:07:37]  But I would also say something like that.
[06:07:39]  Just to be clear, I don't think I'm like some massive A-list celebrity big shot.
[06:07:43]  But they're reaching out to me.
[06:07:45]  When you have more options, you can be a little bit more.
[06:07:49]  I would also say if I've been psychoanalyzing Brian just a little bit, like all of his tendencies, all of his requests are things where it's just like, I want a woman to respect me, respect me, respect me.
[06:07:59]  He confuses submission with respect.
[06:08:01]  Like he's asking for bare minimum this entire time.
[06:08:03]  It is bare minimum.
[06:08:04]  So I'm like, wait a minute.
[06:08:05]  You're not actually asking for submission.
[06:08:07]  You're just asking for a woman to recognize your needs.
[06:08:09]  And oftentimes, if they're the ones reaching out to you, it's because they're like putting you in this character mindset that you're not a real human being, but some idea or abstraction to them that'll satisfy their own needs, basically.
[06:08:21]  Okay.
[06:08:22]  I want to also.
[06:08:23]  I mean, just to be clear, I do want a submissive woman, just to be clear.
[06:08:28]  Can you explain how that would be without you just saying, I want my needs respected, but where you're actually being the leader?
[06:08:35]  Like, how are you guiding her in life?
[06:08:36]  Because everything you've listed is like, oh, yeah, sure, sure.
[06:08:39]  Well, I mean, how about this, right?
[06:08:41]  So I would want a woman who's not posting provocative photos on Instagram.
[06:08:46]  I'd want a woman who's not wearing provocative clothing.
[06:08:49]  That's not submission.
[06:08:50]  That's just barely.
[06:08:51]  Well, respect.
[06:08:52]  To sound like a message.
[06:08:53]  Let's talk about clothing.
[06:08:54]  Hold on.
[06:08:55]  I mean, I do think it does fall under the purview of submission.
[06:08:58]  So if she otherwise wants to go out to a nightclub with her single female friends and I tell her no, and then she's like, okay, that would be submission.
[06:09:08]  That would be submissive.
[06:09:08]  That would be respect.
[06:09:09]  Respect, not submission.
[06:09:10]  Okay, so why don't you, then if we, if I'm having a misunderstanding of what submission is.
[06:09:15]  I think it's just that submission is where you're guiding.
[06:09:17]  Give me an example of a scenario in which a woman would be submissive.
[06:09:21]  I gave an example with my own relationship where I defer to my like my significant other finances.
[06:09:27]  Even though I'm the one who makes more money, I defer to him on finances and safety.
[06:09:31]  If I want to do something and he says this is not for my good benefit, I'll listen to him.
[06:09:35]  Why could she not defer to me?
[06:09:37]  She would also be deferring to me in terms of clothing.
[06:09:40]  Exactly, but that's what I'm saying.
[06:09:41]  If she's going out dressing provocatively, that's just a disrespect to your relationship.
[06:09:44]  That's not her submitting.
[06:09:45]  That's her just disrespecting you.
[06:09:47]  Same thing with her going out to the club.
[06:09:48]  That's not submission.
[06:09:49]  That's her wanting to disrespect.
[06:09:50]  It's basically submitting to her.
[06:09:51]  No, no, no.
[06:09:51]  But if she's not a person, hold on.
[06:09:53]  If she acts, asks me this.
[06:09:56]  Also, I think you have to take into consideration there's a degree of societal conditioning and brainwashing.
[06:10:03]  Yes, of course.
[06:10:04]  And so I think sometimes you got to break somebody out of that and be like, no, this isn't, like, perhaps they were on the wrong path.
[06:10:12]  This is not how you should be maneuvering through the world.
[06:10:17]  And once again, though, I can understand how you can interpret that as submission.
[06:10:21]  But once again, it's like me saying, I want to tell a guy, like, oh, don't do, don't go out to the clubs, don't hang out with your boys when you're going to like the strip clubs or whatever.
[06:10:29]  That's not me obeying him.
[06:10:31]  That's me basically laying out a bare minimum common sense relationship.
[06:10:35]  Sure, and I agree that that should be to some degree bare minimum.
[06:10:39]  Submission is like, I am going to put my life in your hands because you're the one who's going to give me, who's going to take the bullet for me.
[06:10:45]  And I don't want to do something that would increase those chances.
[06:10:48]  His example right there, where he's like, hey, I don't want you to go out with your single female friends.
[06:10:52]  And her thing, okay, yes, I won't do that.
[06:10:54]  That's her submitting to his request.
[06:10:56]  She is submissive in that situation.
[06:10:58]  If she's going to the club or going with her single friend or invalidating his relationship, that's different.
[06:11:04]  If they're single friends, they're typically going to be the ones to poke holes in the relationship, and that's disrespectful to the relationship.
[06:11:09]  So I agree with you that, like, so, okay, she shouldn't want to do that to begin with.
[06:11:14]  There shouldn't have, it should just be automatic.
[06:11:17]  Although I do think in the current cultural and social zeitgeist, some women perhaps have bad influence either from society, culture, or their friends, and they'll get caught up in partying.
[06:11:29]  Now, I would say that it would be perhaps my job in an effort to protect her and the relationship to guide her to be like, no, don't, you're not going to go out and party and do all this oh shit.
[06:11:41]  And she can correct that behavior.
[06:11:44]  And she would defer to me, and that would be submissive.
[06:11:46]  In the mirror situation, would it be okay if my husband wanted to go watch porn and do simulated acts that are very degenerate and gratuitous?
[06:11:53]  If my role is a submissive wife, would I have to go along with that?
[06:11:57]  Or is it disrespectful to the relationship?
[06:11:59]  Likewise, if you're leading her, if you're leading her, there's certain boundaries that are just common sense.
[06:12:03]  You shouldn't have to guide a woman to be aware of.
[06:12:05]  Submissive to God.
[06:12:06]  Yeah, from the Christian framework, not even a Christian one, a materialist one, where if she's going out, that's a threat to your material relationship, where it's like, this shouldn't be a concern I have in the relationship.
[06:12:16]  If I'm guiding you, it's in matters of finances or in matters of safety or in matters of whatever.
[06:12:21]  But if you're going out, putting our relationship in jeopardy, but it's not her physical safety that necessarily men are concerned about if she goes to the club or something.
[06:12:28]  When she goes to a club, I am concerned with her physical safety.
[06:12:31]  That's true.
[06:12:32]  But the bigger issue I think a lot of men have is infidelity when she goes to the club or when she's with her single friends.
[06:12:37]  When it comes to safety, that's just going out in general.
[06:12:39]  It's true.
[06:12:41]  There's a greater risk in like a nightclub scenario or party scenario where there's alcohol involved.
[06:12:48]  Anything outside of night is dangerous.
[06:12:51]  I think essay should be the risk, not infidelity.
[06:12:53]  Because if she's the type of woman to cheat, then I feel like you don't want to be with her, no?
[06:12:57]  If you don't trust her, but then she's not loyal.
[06:12:59]  She's got a bad character.
[06:13:00]  They don't have to go to a club.
[06:13:01]  There is like an opportunity.

=== Club Safety Disrespect (03:21) ===

[06:13:03]  It's disrespectful.
[06:13:04]  It's a sense of opportunity.
[06:13:05]  Yeah, but like... SA.
[06:13:07]  No, I said like the risk and the reason.
[06:13:09]  Well, no, what's SA?
[06:13:10]  Oh, sexual assault.
[06:13:12]  Oh, it's like rape.
[06:13:13]  Well, it could be even less than that.
[06:13:15]  But that's what I'm saying: is that if you're going out to a club where it's clearly dating-oriented, there's alcohol flowing, your friends are single, they're going to encourage you to make mistakes because typically single women are going to henpeck your relationship.
[06:13:27]  That's disrespectful to the relationship.
[06:13:29]  If she's going out and basically, like living her Hunter S. Thompson life, driving like 100 miles on Las Vegas Strip, like, yeah, at that point, you could say, like, sweetie, like, submit to me.
[06:13:39]  You're kind of crazy.
[06:13:40]  But if she's going out doing things that are going to harm the fidelity of the relationship, that's a different equation.
[06:13:44]  I don't understand why you're disagreeing with Brian.
[06:13:46]  So if a woman were to go out with her friends and not tell him at all, that would be disrespectful, right?
[06:13:50]  And then, let's say he were to say, hey, I do not want you to do that.
[06:13:54]  She's then prompted, like, hey, my man does not want me to do this.
[06:13:57]  That would be a non-submissive woman.
[06:13:59]  The reason I'm disagreeing with Brian is because I want him to have higher standards.
[06:14:01]  He's conflating submission with bare minimums.
[06:14:04]  I'm quite certain that Brian has the highest standards of almost any man.
[06:14:07]  If he's having to articulate why it is that he wants his own bed at night and then women are crashing out on him, that's emotional hostility.
[06:14:14]  That's basically being disrespected.
[06:14:16]  That's not submission.
[06:14:16]  That's just having a basic emotional boundaries, wanting to be respected.
[06:14:20]  If the inverse were to happen, where it's a woman saying, listen, sweetie, you know, I just want to share a bed tonight.
[06:14:24]  And the guy was like, okay, but if he were to say, no, I'm not going to do this, it would be seen as hostile and toxic.
[06:14:31]  Wait, wait, wait.
[06:14:31]  But yet that's not acknowledged.
[06:14:32]  I agree.
[06:14:33]  Well, hold on.
[06:14:34]  I agree with Brian because I don't like sleeping in the same bed as people either.
[06:14:37]  So I agree with him there.
[06:14:38]  However, I do also think that the no-bed thing could be a huge deal breaker for someone.
[06:14:43]  And it's just something that you should put out before you bring someone over just so they don't have the, because then you're just giving yourself a headache with her crash outs.
[06:14:52]  So it's just a good thing to put out there, like, hey, this is, I don't really like, you know, sharing beds or whatever.
[06:14:57]  I mean, it's just like a, that way you're not also, you're also not like wasting your time, too.
[06:15:03]  You're not wasting your time.
[06:15:04]  You're not having dealing with the crash out.
[06:15:05]  You're not wasting her time because it could be a huge deal breaker.
[06:15:09]  Okay, so I agree with you that it's probably a good idea to preemptively let somebody know that this is something that you want or whatever.
[06:15:18]  However, if it isn't disclosed, the woman should still acquiesce to your boundary, to your determination on this issue and not fucking freak out about it.
[06:15:31]  The crash outside.
[06:15:31]  Well, I just think it's like they get a little blindsided because you just like had sex with them.
[06:15:36]  They're all emotional.
[06:15:37]  And now it's like you're dismissing them.
[06:15:39]  Women are emotional.
[06:15:41]  Really?
[06:15:41]  So yeah, you got to regulate your emotional response to that and not like just have a make a scene, basically.
[06:15:50]  No, not make a scene.
[06:15:51]  I just, I can understand why they feel dismissed a little bit.
[06:15:55]  Women want to women will submit when you make them feel comfortable.
[06:15:58]  It's kind of if you're not rejecting, they maybe feel rejected.
[06:16:00]  What really is important is that a woman doesn't submit to just any man.
[06:16:03]  Because let's say a man is like, hey, I want to be a cuck like destiny or something, right?
[06:16:06]  Like you wouldn't want a woman to do that.
[06:16:08]  That's not a good woman.
[06:16:09]  You want a woman who is submissive to God, right?
[06:16:11]  And if a man has godly leadership, she should be submissive to that man and his instructions.
[06:16:16]  So to be really specific about it, a woman should be submissive to God and godly male leadership.
[06:16:23]  Okay, another disagreement.
[06:16:24]  We have Hannah here.

=== Tough Love Christianity (04:09) ===

[06:16:25]  Too aggressive with religious views.
[06:16:28]  I assume that relates to Andrew Wilson just because I'm not particularly religious.
[06:16:32]  Be a little more kind.
[06:16:35]  Do you want to elaborate on that?
[06:16:36]  Yeah, I think if you're taking like a religious approach, especially with like OnlyFan girls, like when they're just like, you're a hoe, you're a whore.
[06:16:43]  I'm like.
[06:16:44]  I don't do that.
[06:16:45]  Well, I've seen clips before where like, is it Andrew?
[06:16:48]  You asked, it was the question.
[06:16:50]  Yeah, but Andrew's not here.
[06:16:51]  So like.
[06:16:52]  Well, I just answered the question.
[06:16:54]  Oh, okay.
[06:16:55]  I mean, he does come on the podcast, I think.
[06:16:56]  So he's tired of it.
[06:16:57]  Well, I mean, are you religious?
[06:17:00]  I grew up very, very Mormon.
[06:17:02]  But currently?
[06:17:02]  I got excommunicated.
[06:17:04]  Oh, okay.
[06:17:04]  We'll talk about that in a moment.
[06:17:06]  And then I got re-baptized by my ex-husband.
[06:17:09]  So what's your current status, though?
[06:17:12]  I'm not active LDS.
[06:17:14]  Do you believe in God?
[06:17:16]  I think so, but I'm going to be honest, it's kind of like a mind F, like when you go from one extreme in a religion to like questioning LDS culture in general.
[06:17:27]  Now it's like, okay, well, what is real?
[06:17:29]  But I still would love to have some type of like Christian base.
[06:17:34]  It's just, it's like very confusing, I guess.
[06:17:37]  Okay.
[06:17:38]  Well, yeah, I mean, as far as Andrew's disagreements with sex workers, for example, I mean, sex work is completely incompatible with LDS.
[06:17:47]  It's incompatible with Christianity.
[06:17:50]  It's incompatible with Islam.
[06:17:54]  But what's the, what is it?
[06:17:55]  I don't know.
[06:17:56]  I could be saying it's wrong.
[06:17:57]  Like, what, John 3, 15 or something?
[06:17:58]  It's like God came to the world to condemn that, like, not to condemn people, but to save them.
[06:18:03]  It's like, so when you're really that harsh with people, do you actually think they're open to hearing your I mean, wasn't Jesus like with the Pharisees?
[06:18:10]  He was like knocking tables over?
[06:18:11]  Yes.
[06:18:12]  Like, so, I mean, this idea that Christians need to be like this.
[06:18:19]  Just tolerant of all behavior.
[06:18:21]  I'm not saying be tolerant, but I'm just saying.
[06:18:23]  We can discuss pornography and OnlyFans from a non-religious perspective if you like.
[06:18:28]  No, no.
[06:18:29]  All I'm saying is that you don't want to.
[06:18:30]  The delivery and like even like the tone, that's like the furthest thing from Christ, like coming from a godly man.
[06:18:36]  That's the thing I understand 100%.
[06:18:38]  Okay, wait, so you're saying it's too religious, and then now you're saying like, oh, it's not really Christ-like.
[06:18:42]  So you got to kind of pick one.
[06:18:43]  Well, that's the thing is that Andrew Wilson has true righteous passion inside of himself.
[06:18:48]  He has true conviction in his beliefs for what the future is.
[06:18:52]  What Hannah is addressing is this wounded zeal where one of the virtues of love and inner peace is kindness.
[06:18:58]  Where if someone is being cruel to you, you turn the other cheek and give them a thing, Angelica, is that what Charlie Kirk is.
[06:19:03]  We're all different.
[06:19:03]  I actually just read this in his first time.
[06:19:05]  He pops us in every two seconds and calls women bitches all the time.
[06:19:09]  Andrewson.
[06:19:09]  I mean, Andrewson.
[06:19:11]  Andrew Wilson.
[06:19:12]  I know.
[06:19:12]  At this point, it might as well be Andrew.
[06:19:13]  That's what I'm saying.
[06:19:14]  If you're not wanting him to judge you, why are you judging him?
[06:19:16]  So that's my mindset round.
[06:19:18]  He does all this before the judgment.
[06:19:19]  I know, but I'm like, I'm not going to judge someone for judging because then I'm like multiplying judgment, but I understand why he does that.
[06:19:24]  Angelica, it says in 1 Corinthians that we're all different parts of.
[06:19:27]  We're all different parts of the body of Christ.
[06:19:29]  We all have different functions.
[06:19:30]  None of us can be a Christ.
[06:19:31]  Some of us are going to be a lot more kind.
[06:19:33]  Some of us are going to be legalistic and saying, hey, we're going to go into this temple and flip over tables.
[06:19:37]  That's a reference to when Jesus went into a temple and basically flipped over a bunch of people's tables and whatnot and got very mad at them.
[06:19:43]  So some of us are supposed to be kind.
[06:19:45]  Like you might be very kind.
[06:19:46]  You're a woman.
[06:19:47]  It's kind of the usual.
[06:19:48]  But like some of us are meant to be very assertive and dominant and like the table flippers essentially that just kind of call out the bullshit and be very blunt about it and say you know we're not being nice here.
[06:19:57]  And so none of us can be Christ, but we're all different parts of the body of Christ.
[06:20:02]  So we'll have different characteristics of Christ.
[06:20:04]  I 100% agree.
[06:20:05]  I understand that text.
[06:20:07]  I agree with it because the way I came to Christianity was just like that tough love and I appreciate that tough love.
[06:20:11]  That's why I like Andrew Wilson.
[06:20:13]  But at the same time, there is room for criticism where something that he can improve on is if you're swearing, it clouds your mental clarity.
[06:20:19]  That's why the Bible says to be careful of perverse speech.
[06:20:22]  So if you're calling a woman a hoe and all of this jazz, you're no longer approaching it from Christianity.
[06:20:28]  If you call a woman, if you call a woman a whore, and then you also call a woman a promiscuous woman, they have the exact same meaning.

=== Perverse Speech Abortion (03:53) ===

[06:20:34]  No, non-cognitive.
[06:20:36]  Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
[06:20:37]  I think I caught the tail end of this, but I think Jesus was referring, referred to people as vipers.
[06:20:43]  That's a different group that you don't want to mention right now.
[06:20:46]  Wait, well, hold on.
[06:20:47]  This is a different view.
[06:20:48]  No, no, no, but like back in, so historically, you'd agree with me that there's like a youth, I don't know, euphemism treadmill.
[06:20:57]  Or no, I think I might be using that wrong, but like insults evolve, devolve over time.
[06:21:05]  So like back in when Jesus was alive, to call somebody a viper is like massive, like super insulting.
[06:21:12]  Like it's probably like the equivalent of calling a guy like a pussy or a that's not perverse speech though.
[06:21:17]  I mean you just gave two.
[06:21:18]  No, but perverse wait, what?
[06:21:20]  Perverse speech is like vulgar where it's like the pussy or F-word.
[06:21:24]  What makes it vulgar?
[06:21:24]  All right.
[06:21:25]  Well, what makes it vulgar?
[06:21:26]  It's referring to bottled.
[06:21:27]  Hold on.
[06:21:27]  I don't care about this conversation.
[06:21:29]  No offense.
[06:21:31]  Back to your point, though.
[06:21:32]  Be a little more kind to aggressive.
[06:21:34]  Is this just about Andrew Wilson, though?
[06:21:36]  He's not here to defend himself.
[06:21:39]  Yeah.
[06:21:40]  Was there anything else?
[06:21:40]  Okay, we're going to get into the other things of the questionnaire here.
[06:21:43]  Let's see here.
[06:21:45]  Shona, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA, to which you agree.
[06:21:49]  Why is that?
[06:21:49]  It just pertains to abortion rights.
[06:21:52]  They can't get an abortion either in Texas.
[06:21:54]  Did you know that?
[06:21:55]  Do you have any weakly affects us?
[06:21:58]  I cannot get an abortion.
[06:21:59]  I do not have the right to get an abortion in Texas and a lot of other states, which have banned abortion.
[06:22:04]  Did you know that?
[06:22:05]  Oh, my God.
[06:22:06]  He doesn't have the right.
[06:22:08]  There's no way that the issue behind abortion or like the problem that initially occurs as to why women gets abortion, that will never apply to a man.
[06:22:16]  So the framing of the question relates to equal rights.
[06:22:20]  Well, right now, as it stands, and I'm going to say draft aside because that doesn't actively affect any men right now.
[06:22:25]  And it's not been implemented.
[06:22:27]  Slavery happens a long time ago.
[06:22:29]  Does that mean it doesn't have an impact today?
[06:22:31]  Slavery doesn't actively affect black people right now, but there's like a lot of people who aren't.
[06:22:34]  Well, really, why are they poor then?
[06:22:35]  Wait, why are black people poor?
[06:22:36]  Well, I'm just saying there's ultimate and there's proximate causes, okay?
[06:22:39]  But why are they poor?
[06:22:40]  What's approximate?
[06:22:41]  Wait, what's approximate cause?
[06:22:43]  Like things like redlining.
[06:22:45]  That's what a proximate.
[06:22:46]  Oh, you're talking about, you're talking about like.
[06:22:47]  I'm asking what the definition of proximate is.
[06:22:49]  Proximate is more nearby.
[06:22:50]  Ultimate is.
[06:22:51]  What are you studying in college again?
[06:22:52]  Psych.
[06:22:53]  Okay.
[06:22:54]  Okay, and you just said redlining, which happened dozens of years ago.
[06:22:57]  So that's still something that would affect them today.
[06:22:59]  That was in the past.
[06:23:00]  Well, there's some realized your logic does not follow through.
[06:23:03]  Right now, okay, all I was trying to say with the abortion thing is as it stands today, and draft aside, that's like a whole nother topic.
[06:23:09]  And like, if you want to say, like, oh, draft invalidates what you're saying, sure, you can, but just on the top of a topic of abortion, bring the draft up.
[06:23:16]  But men don't have any reproductive rights.
[06:23:18]  He can't get an abortion.
[06:23:20]  Men don't have a reproductive system.
[06:23:22]  Well, if you're not.
[06:23:23]  You don't have to have sex.
[06:23:24]  Like, that's the amazing thing.
[06:23:25]  It's totally preventable.
[06:23:26]  Well, not only that.
[06:23:27]  Really quick, Natalia.
[06:23:28]  I think for the gift of 20 memberships.
[06:23:30]  Oh, wow.
[06:23:30]  But I mean, just to make it super quick, so you could say that there are abortion rights, which would primarily apply to women.
[06:23:39]  Well, would they only apply?
[06:23:40]  Almost only apply to women.
[06:23:41]  Wait, what about trans women?
[06:23:43]  I will say in this case, biologically assigned female at birth.
[06:23:47]  Yeah, but what if the woman wants to abort a child that the man wants to keep, that's his baby?
[06:23:51]  Like, then he has no say in it.
[06:23:52]  It's her body, though.
[06:23:54]  This leads into a whole abortion debate.
[06:23:55]  Yeah, I'm studying psychology.
[06:23:59]  What is what I'm studying?
[06:24:00]  Maybe later we can't.
[06:24:01]  It has to deal with she's talking about his mental health, so that's exactly what it has to do with his mental health.
[06:24:05]  What would be that?
[06:24:05]  How would it affect his mental health if she decides to have an abortion and he doesn't want it would affect her mental health too and it affects her body, so therefore there's more thickness.
[06:24:11]  Yeah, but does his mental health note?
[06:24:14]  I'm not saying it doesn't matter.
[06:24:15]  I'm just saying that's exactly what you're saying.
[06:24:17]  I know a lot of people.
[06:24:18]  Oh, it's not.
[06:24:18]  It matters.
[06:24:19]  What if it is allowed for him to take her to court to make sure that he could eat his baby?
[06:24:22]  She doesn't have to take care of the baby.
[06:24:23]  He can take hold of the baby.
[06:24:25]  When did I say his mental health doesn't matter?
[06:24:27]  You just did.

=== Wifely Duties Laundry (14:54) ===

[06:24:28]  I didn't.
[06:24:29]  His mental health matters.
[06:24:31]  It's still her body.
[06:24:32]  And I still don't believe a fetus is a baby.
[06:24:34]  And you're a manipulator.
[06:24:35]  Well, then, how does the baby grow?
[06:24:37]  Whatever you think about.
[06:24:38]  Because he's not a human.
[06:24:39]  How does it grow if he's not a person?
[06:24:40]  Oh, my God.
[06:24:40]  We're getting so off topic.
[06:24:41]  Oh, God.
[06:24:43]  Here, can you read this, Shona?
[06:24:45]  They want to confuse the diff between getting on her knees, looking up while giving oral versus doing laundry without being asked, which is the same only when a man asks to do the things no matter what, and she agrees is submissive.
[06:24:57]  Never understood why this is so hard to understand.
[06:25:00]  I guess we didn't fully finish off the laundry thing.
[06:25:03]  I guess I can add two more things really quick, then I'll move on.
[06:25:07]  You might think it's ridiculous that I have an expectation on the first time a girl comes over for her to do my laundry.
[06:25:14]  I think it may be in total, like one load of laundry.
[06:25:17]  I mean, there's machines that do it, so folding is probably the primary time sink.
[06:25:23]  It maybe takes a woman 20 minutes tops to do it.
[06:25:28]  In order for a man to take a woman out on a date, let's say a guy, let's say it's a younger guy, and he's going to pay for the date, and he makes $20 an hour, and he takes her to fucking Chili's, and they get a drink each, appetizer, main course, dessert, plus tip.
[06:25:44]  He's going to spend probably $100.
[06:25:46]  Now, let's say, okay, only 50 of that is for her.
[06:25:51]  So the math would work out to something like just for her portion to take her out to a $100 Chili's date.
[06:25:57]  He has to work, not even factoring in taxes.
[06:26:01]  He has to work two and a half hours if he's just making $20 flat.
[06:26:05]  It's more, actually.
[06:26:08]  Well, I'm not including in his portion of the bill or whatever.
[06:26:12]  So if when women say men should pay for first dates, if you take a girl out to a first date and it's $100, which I don't think is that unrealistic, maybe you could get away with something.
[06:26:23]  You could go to get burgers for $40, something like you could get something cheaper.
[06:26:28]  Let's say it's even $20 you spend on Costco Food Court.
[06:26:31]  Yeah, say you spend, we can keep going really, really cheap, but I don't think it's unreasonable.
[06:26:36]  Like a mid-tier, mid-tier restaurant, you might spend $100 for the both of you.
[06:26:41]  $50 for her portion, you make $20 an hour.
[06:26:44]  Let's not even factor in tax.
[06:26:46]  That's two and a half hours of work to take her out on the date.
[06:26:50]  So it's like if that's the entailment of men should pay on first dates, you have to work for two and a half hours.
[06:26:58]  Why can't I be like, okay, first time you come over to my house, I'd want a woman to work 20 minutes for me.
[06:27:04]  Do you lay out like, hey, when you come over, I want you to do my laundry?
[06:27:07]  Or is this a guessing?
[06:27:08]  Is this like a task?
[06:27:09]  They should just do it.
[06:27:09]  They should just do it.
[06:27:11]  Why don't you just pay out of the kindness of your own heart?
[06:27:13]  Maybe wait a month or so for the laundry.
[06:27:16]  Why should I pay?
[06:27:17]  What do you mean, pay?
[06:27:17]  For the date?
[06:27:19]  Yeah.
[06:27:19]  Well, what kind of date is that?
[06:27:20]  Is it like a coffee shop or are you taking her to fine dining?
[06:27:23]  Because if you're taking her to fine dining, I could see why you would want your laundry being done, maybe.
[06:27:27]  Well, I mean, even if you go to a mid-tier restaurant, you could easily pay $100.
[06:27:34]  But why is it out of the kindness of my heart, I need to pay for the date?
[06:27:38]  Why can't out of the kindness of her heart, she should do my laundry?
[06:27:41]  To defend Brian's.
[06:27:42]  Did you want to take her out?
[06:27:44]  You asked her out?
[06:27:46]  That's including her.
[06:27:46]  But how do you ask her to do your laundry after a date?
[06:27:49]  Like, do you just.
[06:27:49]  He's not axing, though.
[06:27:51]  That's what he's saying.
[06:27:51]  Oh, so.
[06:27:52]  Wait, most women won't even know they have to do this.
[06:27:55]  That's what I'm saying.
[06:27:56]  I guess that's the same thing.
[06:27:56]  They make communications.
[06:27:57]  They should want to do that.
[06:27:59]  Women oftentimes have expectations that are unspoken of for men.
[06:28:02]  And if they don't deliver those expectations, they will break up with them because they get the ick and they won't explain or communicate that, which is also a subject that's been brought up.
[06:28:09]  So, likewise, Brian is basically saying, I don't need to communicate these issues.
[06:28:13]  If they come up in the relationship, I don't need to be transparent 24/7 so as to get you to oblige to some contractual relationships.
[06:28:19]  I think both should be transparent.
[06:28:21]  It saves both of you a headache.
[06:28:22]  Lay out the groundwork.
[06:28:23]  This is my must-haves.
[06:28:24]  This is my, these are my women.
[06:28:26]  You have to be on the first person.
[06:28:26]  But do you, do you guys do the same thing?
[06:28:28]  So you're saying, oh, Brian, you should disclose this.
[06:28:31]  Do you disclose, like, do women disclose if a woman has an expectation that the man should pay for the first date, do women, like, check in beforehand?
[06:28:40]  And are they like, by the way, I just want to make sure you're paying for the date.
[06:28:46]  Women don't do that.
[06:28:47]  I do.
[06:28:47]  Like, women don't do that.
[06:28:48]  They just expect it.
[06:28:49]  No, I do it.
[06:28:50]  They just expect.
[06:28:51]  Why do you do that because you're expecting to pay because you make more money?
[06:28:55]  I do it because that's what I want.
[06:28:56]  I want someone to provide and not leech out.
[06:28:59]  I was just going to say, like, obviously, like, I understand why you're saying, oh, well, if I don't disclose it, like, but like, women, like, they don't disclose the whole date thing, right?
[06:29:08]  But I think your expectation in this case just happens to be a little more unconventional.
[06:29:11]  He's kind of just a lot more common.
[06:29:13]  He's kind of like, I'm still talking.
[06:29:15]  Whereas okay, I'm letting you know that I'm still making my point.
[06:29:19]  I just think it's a lot more common for men to pay for a woman's date.
[06:29:22]  So I completely respect your preference, and I understand why you want it to be at your expectation given your preferences and what I understand about you so far.
[06:29:28]  But you know, sometimes you don't always have to chime in.
[06:29:35]  But what if you have a woman who she would be like totally willing to do all those things for you?
[06:29:39]  She just didn't think of it in the moment because it's not as common of a thing to come up for a woman to do a man's laundry on the first date.
[06:29:46]  Yeah, so I do agree that it's a bit unorthodox and like super uncommon.
[06:29:54]  Like probably 99.999% of men don't have this expectation at all.
[06:29:58]  Even if she's conservative and like about everything you're about.
[06:30:01]  Yeah, sure.
[06:30:01]  I think most men are just like basically happy to be worker ants for women, which I reject.
[06:30:11]  I kind of reject that setup, to be honest.
[06:30:14]  Well, that's the other thing about conservative women.
[06:30:16]  Excuse me.
[06:30:17]  There's this paradigm that's unfortunately like, once again, as I've referenced before, Me, Me, Me, where conservative women, they have certain expectations of men that are conservative veined.
[06:30:27]  There's liberal women who have certain expectations of men that are liberal veined, but they still have expectations of men, and they're not thinking about what they're going to show up or provide for them.
[06:30:35]  It's not self-sacrificial.
[06:30:36]  So that's the issue that's going on with modern dating techniques.
[06:30:39]  I think she's talking.
[06:30:42]  You weren't talking.
[06:30:42]  You're not in this conversation.
[06:30:43]  I said she's talking.
[06:30:44]  That's kind of my issue.
[06:30:45]  It doesn't matter if a woman has conservative politics, but like in liberal politics, the issue is, you know, a woman can be liberal, as Griselda proves.
[06:30:52]  And if they're meeting each other's needs, why are you going to bring problems into the relationships by saying, oh, well, why don't you do this one role?
[06:30:59]  It's like if they're meeting each other's needs, that's all that's needed for a relationship.
[06:31:03]  I agree.
[06:31:03]  And I think that's why expectations can be such a tricky thing to like lay out.
[06:31:07]  Shaggy, thank you.
[06:31:08]  Shaggy donated $200.
[06:31:10]  Appreciate it, man.
[06:31:11]  Me and my wife have been together for 12 years.
[06:31:14]  Me 40 to her 46.
[06:31:17]  She has always been full submissive to me, and her friends are jealous of the joy she has all the time.
[06:31:22]  She lives spoiled.
[06:31:24]  Three years, listen, one X tip.
[06:31:28]  Chair one is.
[06:31:29]  I said you're not.
[06:31:30]  Yo, Shaggy, thank you for the TTS, man.
[06:31:31]  I appreciate it.
[06:31:32]  Thank you.
[06:31:32]  Thank you, dude.
[06:31:33]  Wait, Chair One, what?
[06:31:34]  I'm lying about Andrew Wilson.
[06:31:35]  I just said he popped Zins and he's called woman derogatory names before.
[06:31:38]  I think both of those things are.
[06:31:40]  Brian Poppy Zins?
[06:31:42]  Like, is that the?
[06:31:43]  I'm not saying that's actually a terrible thing.
[06:31:44]  It's just like.
[06:31:46]  He consumes nicotine.
[06:31:49]  Oh my God.
[06:31:49]  Crime of the century.
[06:31:50]  I don't know.
[06:31:51]  Every time I've seen it, like, yeah, he smokes cigarettes.
[06:31:53]  No, that's cool.
[06:31:54]  That's cool.
[06:31:54]  That's cool.
[06:31:55]  It's good for you.
[06:31:55]  So Brian was mentioning it.
[06:31:57]  That is like the willingness of the girl to do that.
[06:32:00]  So like if a guy on a first date didn't, I'm talking, if a guy on a first date didn't buy you flowers, you'd be like, okay, whatever.
[06:32:07]  But then you say, yeah, I kind of wanted to get flowers.
[06:32:08]  He'd be like, oh, oh, okay.
[06:32:10]  And then he goes to the store and buys them.
[06:32:11]  He walks out of his seat, goes and buys the flowers.
[06:32:13]  It wouldn't really mean as much because he wasn't really intending to do that until you brought it up as kind of like a requirement, right?
[06:32:19]  Okay, but that's why I would never ask a man to get flowers because then suddenly it does take away the meat.
[06:32:23]  Exactly, because it's like his will.
[06:32:24]  He should be willing to do that, right?
[06:32:25]  Right.
[06:32:26]  And a woman should be willing to do a man's laundry if the man spent two and a half hours of his labor on the dinner.
[06:32:31]  Right, but you can't be telepathic.
[06:32:32]  Like you can't just know that he wants toilet.
[06:32:34]  I just feel like that that's something more personal.
[06:32:37]  You know, I don't know.
[06:32:39]  I just find it very difficult.
[06:32:40]  No, let's play the bow video.
[06:32:41]  But he's assuming that we're also assuming he slept with these women.
[06:32:44]  So how much of that is that?
[06:32:45]  I'm willing to think about it.
[06:32:47]  But I feel like the laundry is something that you're going to be able to do.
[06:32:49]  Can I ask you guys a question?
[06:32:51]  So I think most people, unless you're like pretty Christian or, I mean, you don't necessarily have to be religious.
[06:32:58]  I think most people fuck pretty quickly.
[06:33:02]  Am I the bad guy here who wants a little wholesome laundry done?
[06:33:07]  Whereas like other guys' intention...
[06:33:09]  Hold on.
[06:33:10]  But other guys' intention is like he wants his cock down fucking your taunts.
[06:33:15]  Like he wants his penis, his member, into the crevices.
[06:33:21]  He wants to blast.
[06:33:23]  He wants to blast up inside of you.
[06:33:25]  He wants to blast on you.
[06:33:27]  He wants to do variances of various sexual acts with and around in and around your mouth.
[06:33:37]  And it's like, am I really the bad guy here?
[06:33:40]  I just want a pulse, like a woman, to just be all cutesy in the laundry room folding my laundry.
[06:33:46]  Like I have this bad intention.
[06:33:48]  Meanwhile, this other guy you're on a date with wants to like choke you and have like do all kinds.
[06:33:54]  I'm not a choking guy.
[06:33:55]  I'm not look.
[06:33:55]  I'll do a gentle one if you ask for it nicely, okay?
[06:33:58]  But I don't know.
[06:33:59]  Like I don't know.
[06:34:01]  Ryan, I think you have, I think your expectations are valid and you're not wrong in them.
[06:34:05]  I just think I've never heard of a man ask me to wash his laundry and I'm and I might.
[06:34:09]  I just think it's like no, no.
[06:34:11]  Have you ever asked a man to buy you flowers?
[06:34:12]  I wash my husband's laundry.
[06:34:14]  I'm going to say on a first date.
[06:34:15]  I'm going to say after like that, that's fine.
[06:34:21]  That's your preference.
[06:34:22]  I just think that a little bit of communication goes a long way.
[06:34:25]  That's what you expect.
[06:34:26]  Maybe she'd be down for it, but maybe she'd got a lot of fun.
[06:34:27]  Well, no, so I do communicate it.
[06:34:29]  I have like a hundred-point girlfriend application.
[06:34:33]  And one of the questions is, are you willing to do acts of service?
[06:34:36]  Are you going to work on my garden?
[06:34:38]  You really do.
[06:34:39]  That's a little corny.
[06:34:39]  Yes.
[06:34:40]  I can't lie.
[06:34:40]  So you're a lovely person.
[06:34:41]  No, I like that shit.
[06:34:42]  I like that.
[06:34:45]  Yeah, no, look, here's the thing, right?
[06:34:48]  So, okay.
[06:34:49]  Love languages.
[06:34:50]  If it helps you, if it helps you, that's cool.
[06:34:51]  Love languages.
[06:34:52]  By the way, you really can mostly only leverage this if she's reaching out to you.
[06:34:57]  Oh, hi.
[06:34:58]  Okay, here's my girlfriend application.
[06:35:00]  Fill this out.
[06:35:01]  One of these days I'm going to show the girlfriend application, but it's the secret sauce.
[06:35:05]  I don't want to, you know, I got to keep it to me for a little bit.
[06:35:07]  You know, you said you got a hello woman reaching out to you.
[06:35:09]  You've been in multiple relationships.
[06:35:10]  I'm not going to hate that.
[06:35:11]  Like, good for you.
[06:35:12]  Well, this works.
[06:35:13]  Yeah, yeah.
[06:35:14]  I just never heard of that before.
[06:35:15]  Yeah, women DM me and like whatever.
[06:35:16]  And it's not like I don't meet up with all of them.
[06:35:19]  But yeah, the girlfriend application, I'm like, will you do acts of service?
[06:35:23]  Will you cook?
[06:35:24]  Will you clean?
[06:35:24]  Will you, you know, that's your love language.
[06:35:26]  I think something about that just feels slightly less organic.
[06:35:29]  Yeah, but it's just like all the jobs.
[06:35:31]  Hold on.
[06:35:32]  I agree, it's not organic, but if like 10 women DM me a week, like hit them.
[06:35:37]  Okay, when you're at that level, when you're on top, hold on.
[06:35:41]  It's like, also, like, even if it was like one woman a week or whatever, I don't have time to like organically, like, it's a lot of questions, and these are things I care about.
[06:35:51]  No, you're just organically.
[06:35:54]  It would take hours to like siphon this out of a woman organically.
[06:35:59]  So, yeah, it's a little autistic.
[06:36:00]  I've had some women be like, Brian, I'm not filling that out.
[06:36:03]  I'm like, peace.
[06:36:05]  You're all good.
[06:36:06]  You're saving yourself.
[06:36:07]  You're just back to the streets.
[06:36:09]  Call me off guard, but when you're this popular and you got this many girls, like, bro, I'm not even that poppin'.
[06:36:16]  I don't have anything.
[06:36:17]  So now you're being a little bit more.
[06:36:19]  In general, the social contract has been broken.
[06:36:22]  There is no sense of like expectation anymore.
[06:36:24]  So if you're going to be engaging in a romantic sexual relationship with someone who might misinterpret and crash out, like, for example, in Brian's case, the whole bedroom situation, you're going to want to have some insurance to make sure she's not going to extrapolate something.
[06:36:36]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[06:36:37]  Extrapolate something into something much bigger.
[06:36:39]  You're going to want to be more concise and thorough from the start.
[06:36:42]  Application are you?
[06:36:43]  Modernity has totally warped women's perception of what's degrading.
[06:36:48]  That too.
[06:36:49]  Like all the sex.
[06:36:50]  What did you say?
[06:36:51]  Modernity has entirely warped women's perception on what's degrading.
[06:36:57]  Because talking about the sex acts, like I think some of those things are far more degrading than, you know, washing laundry, washing laundry or any number of other things.
[06:37:07]  I mean, we can also have the sex acts, but laundry too.
[06:37:12]  You know what I mean?
[06:37:13]  I have no problem doing a man's laundry if I'm with him.
[06:37:15]  I just think if you're expecting it like first night over or whatever, it should just be complicated.
[06:37:19]  Oh, wait, who said related to that?
[06:37:21]  Who said you want someone said something along the lines of either that's like wifey behavior, but she's not your wife, or like you want a mom.
[06:37:31]  Somebody said that.
[06:37:33]  I used the word wifey.
[06:37:35]  You use the word, like the that's the wife stuff.
[06:37:38]  If you want to become a wife, you got to do the wifey stuff even before.
[06:37:41]  Like, for example, imagine if a guy was like, you know what?
[06:37:46]  I don't want to protect.
[06:37:47]  I don't want to provide.
[06:37:48]  When we're married, then I'll pay for dates.
[06:37:51]  I think a lot of women would have an issue with a man holding back on his roles until marriage, until further on in the relationship.
[06:38:01]  For most women, if it's like, oh, I'm not going to pay now, but like three months, six months deep, then I'll start paying for dates.
[06:38:08]  I think a lot of women are going to have an issue with that.
[06:38:10]  That's a black pill position to have, though, because it's like there's no skills to basically show a man like, these are the skills you need.
[06:38:17]  These are the skills that a woman needs.
[06:38:18]  In a relationship nowadays, you basically have to find someone who's on the same page as you and say, we'll grow together in our femininity or masculinity and complement each other in what we don't currently have.
[06:38:27]  Sometimes a woman is like a horse, though.
[06:38:32]  You got to train her.
[06:38:33]  You got to train her.
[06:38:34]  You got to break her in these.
[06:38:35]  You got to train her a lot.
[06:38:36]  You got to break her in.
[06:38:38]  No, it's not her fault.
[06:38:39]  It's not her fault.
[06:38:40]  Society, feminism, it's all brainwashing.
[06:38:44]  Sometimes you got to put her on the right.
[06:38:46]  No, look.
[06:38:46]  So, you think that you can change you up?
[06:38:49]  Disney fucked you up.
[06:38:50]  All these stupid Disney movies.
[06:38:52]  The women went through.
[06:38:52]  They'll put you on some games.
[06:38:54]  Well, submission is not a bad movie.
[06:38:55]  No, it's not.
[06:38:56]  But at the same time, well, my first point is: how can a woman be a homemaker if there is no home that the man has provided?
[06:39:01]  And number two, back to Griselda's point: if you guys are doing 50-50, then you're basically making up for it.
[06:39:08]  I assume that you're working class.
[06:39:09]  You have to make up for it because the man can't make that income and afford a home on his own.
[06:39:14]  So that's a form of submission.
[06:39:16]  So, anyways, I got to move it on.
[06:39:18]  Oh, the bow video.
[06:39:19]  Play the bow video super quick.
[06:39:20]  Then we have a fun segment.
[06:39:21]  We have the AI segment.

=== Secular Marriage Commitment (17:41) ===

[06:39:23]  So, okay, it's going to be bow.
[06:39:24]  Then, okay, this is my ex-girlfriend.
[06:39:26]  And I show this video.
[06:39:27]  So, what I did was, I, this is a tutorial video.
[06:39:31]  You know, in a video game, how there's a tutorial?
[06:39:33]  I thought, you know, why tell when I can show?
[06:39:38]  So, this is something I, you know, like, have you ever had a job at a fast food restaurant and like they sit you in the back room with like a tablet, I guess, a tablet now, or like a TV, and they put in a VCR tape, and they're like, hey, well, I guess it wouldn't nowadays, it wouldn't be that.
[06:39:54]  But there's like, here's a VCR, they put in the VCR tape, uh, and then VHS tape, I guess I should say.
[06:40:00]  And uh, you know, they show you the instructional video.
[06:40:05]  I do that with women, you know, why I don't want to have to constantly tell, like, use my, you know, I get hoarse sometimes.
[06:40:13]  That's why I drink so much water.
[06:40:15]  I don't want to have to like walk every woman through it.
[06:40:17]  So, I'm just like, I have an instructional video I show them.
[06:40:21]  Go ahead, play, roll the clip, roll the clip.
[06:40:22]  So, you do communicate.
[06:40:24]  Yeah, so boom, huge bow.
[06:40:27]  She has to bow for me as soon as I come home.
[06:40:30]  That's respect, right?
[06:40:31]  She's got a bow.
[06:40:32]  Now, this is sort of rage, bait.
[06:40:34]  No, this is real.
[06:40:35]  And then, like, laundry, of course.
[06:40:37]  And then, look at this.
[06:40:38]  This was after a long podcast day.
[06:40:40]  She has my food, my dinner ready, cracks open a beer.
[06:40:44]  Surprising.
[06:40:45]  What a surprise.
[06:40:46]  Look at how attentive she is.
[06:40:47]  Look at how attentive she stirs my noodles for me.
[06:40:50]  And I actually dumped her.
[06:40:52]  You see those tomatoes there?
[06:40:53]  I dumped her because why would I just want raw tomatoes?
[06:40:57]  Disgusting.
[06:40:58]  Yeah, so I show this to all my future girlfriends.
[06:41:03]  Well, hopefully they watch the show so that I don't even have to show it to them.
[06:41:06]  They just know what to do.
[06:41:07]  But yeah, I do want a woman to bow for me.
[06:41:11]  You're joking.
[06:41:11]  What?
[06:41:12]  That was a deal breaker.
[06:41:14]  That was the deal breaker for you, tomatoes.
[06:41:16]  The raw tomatoes.
[06:41:17]  The raw tomatoes.
[06:41:18]  Is that really your ex-girlfriend?
[06:41:20]  What do you mean?
[06:41:21]  Why should a woman?
[06:41:22]  Yeah, why?
[06:41:23]  You're married, right?
[06:41:24]  Yeah.
[06:41:25]  Did your husband get down on one knee like a little simp?
[06:41:28]  Absolutely.
[06:41:29]  He got down on one knee and he looked up to you.
[06:41:31]  He has done it at least three times.
[06:41:33]  He hasn't asked me to say that.
[06:41:35]  I'm married three times.
[06:41:36]  No, he has asked me several times to move on.
[06:41:38]  Wait, you turned him down?
[06:41:39]  No.
[06:41:40]  Why did he ask you three times?
[06:41:41]  Because that's basically you're renewing your bows.
[06:41:45]  He has done it.
[06:41:46]  Renewed you.
[06:41:48]  So you're already married.
[06:41:49]  And he asks you to marry him.
[06:41:50]  He gets it down on his knee.
[06:41:51]  He gives you another ring.
[06:41:52]  Well, that's okay.
[06:41:53]  You can do it.
[06:41:54]  Show us everything.
[06:41:55]  No, I don't have my rings.
[06:41:56]  You're not waiting.
[06:41:57]  Whoa.
[06:42:00]  Why don't you wear your ring?
[06:42:01]  It seems a bit odd away from home for a few days.
[06:42:03]  Well, she's home.
[06:42:04]  She's also in my heart.
[06:42:05]  My husband dropped me off.
[06:42:07]  Okay.
[06:42:07]  Oh, but you don't wear your ring?
[06:42:09]  That's kind of.
[06:42:10]  Delica's not wearing her ring either.
[06:42:12]  And she lied about that.
[06:42:13]  I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
[06:42:15]  Wait, you're too far.
[06:42:15]  You're too far from the moment.
[06:42:16]  I'm not wearing mine either because I was afraid I would lose it.
[06:42:19]  I don't know.
[06:42:19]  I think it's a way bigger ask.
[06:42:21]  He's also with me here.
[06:42:23]  I think it's way bigger asks for a man to one, like spend X amount of money on a ring, get kneeling, kneeling, first off.
[06:42:34]  I don't want to get married, but that's going to open up.
[06:42:35]  Oh, so how are you going to have kids?
[06:42:38]  You just have kids.
[06:42:41]  In order to impregnate a woman, you have to be married to her.
[06:42:44]  No, but that's, I feel like that was your belief that you need to get married so you can.
[06:42:50]  I don't have a religious objection to marriage, but I definitely have a secular objection to marriage.
[06:42:56]  So, but I can stay with the same woman for my entire life, never been married, and I can definitely get women pregnant afterwards.
[06:43:02]  What's the objection?
[06:43:03]  What's the, oh my God, I mean, it's a huge can of worms.
[06:43:06]  It's massive financial liability.
[06:43:08]  I don't give a fuck about a woman's money.
[06:43:10]  That means I'm willing to date a woman who's essentially works at Chick-fil-A or less, I guess.
[06:43:16]  I'm a high-earner.
[06:43:19]  So, no prenup.
[06:43:20]  You don't believe in prenups.
[06:43:21]  Prenups get thrown out.
[06:43:22]  They get challenged.
[06:43:25]  It wouldn't even really protect me to that much.
[06:43:27]  But wouldn't getting married to a woman offer her security?
[06:43:30]  But that's what it's like.
[06:43:32]  That's her benefit.
[06:43:33]  Oh, it's not your bad.
[06:43:34]  But don't you want her to submit to you?
[06:43:36]  I don't benefit.
[06:43:37]  A woman voluntarily.
[06:43:40]  Marriage just doesn't make sense if you're not.
[06:43:41]  You're an atheist.
[06:43:42]  If you're not married to the woman and you have children, would you expect that the children have your last name?
[06:43:47]  Yes.
[06:43:49]  Also, how do you think your children will look?
[06:43:52]  I mean, how do you think your children will feel when you're not married to their mom?
[06:43:57]  Don't you think?
[06:43:58]  What?
[06:43:58]  Yeah, I mean, that's weird.
[06:44:01]  I don't think that's weird.
[06:44:02]  Yeah, they're going to grow.
[06:44:03]  I mean, my kids will definitely ask me.
[06:44:05]  My kids definitely will ask me why you're not married to my daddy.
[06:44:08]  Like, you know, that's actually things that get thrown in school or something.
[06:44:12]  You know, there's a lot of events that are in school.
[06:44:15]  But we're together.
[06:44:17]  We're together.
[06:44:18]  And yeah, I don't anticipate it being a problem.
[06:44:22]  Just all legally.
[06:44:23]  You believe in marriage, basically.
[06:44:24]  You don't believe in actually marrying a girl.
[06:44:28]  If she's richer than me, I'll think about it.
[06:44:30]  I'll probably do that.
[06:44:31]  So just on the legal aspect, you're fine with like religious.
[06:44:34]  Socially marrying a woman.
[06:44:39]  I'm saying this is my wife.
[06:44:40]  You just don't have the paperwork done.
[06:44:42]  Like, would you ever give her a ring?
[06:44:43]  Yeah, I guess that's acceptable, huh?
[06:44:45]  Would you ever like offer her a ring as a commitment without actually going to be a marriage?
[06:44:47]  I mean, I'm not getting down on one knee, but I might just be like, we're at McDonald's or something.
[06:44:52]  I'm just like...
[06:44:52]  Whose ring is that?
[06:44:53]  I'm just like.
[06:44:56]  There you go.
[06:44:57]  It's a hard sell.
[06:44:58]  Yes, we can fucking do it.
[06:44:59]  It's a super hard sell from a secular perspective.
[06:45:01]  So I totally get that.
[06:45:03]  Like, my only kind of sell from that angle is that cohabitating couples, even ones who have kids within the first five years of like their children's life, are four times more likely to split up than if they're actually married.
[06:45:19]  Well, I mean, the statistics, while they might be true, I don't really think that they would apply to me.
[06:45:27]  He's kind of.
[06:45:28]  You're the exception.
[06:45:29]  I mean, he kind of is.
[06:45:31]  Well, so it's like, it's like, so just because, okay, so let me pant it like this.
[06:45:37]  Like, just because the statistics are, you know, whatever the statistics show, that doesn't mean that in your particular instance, that that is necessarily the probability of you getting divorced.
[06:45:53]  Yeah.
[06:45:53]  So, but I mean, I don't think it's, I don't know.
[06:45:58]  Plus, there's plenty of divorce among married couples, too.
[06:46:03]  Okay, I agree with the no-married thing.
[06:46:05]  I probably never want to get married again.
[06:46:06]  And I said that earlier.
[06:46:07]  Tilt your mic down, please.
[06:46:08]  I'm sorry?
[06:46:09]  Tilt your mic down.
[06:46:11]  And Riley looked at me like, oh, you're 41.
[06:46:16]  You're never getting married.
[06:46:17]  That's why.
[06:46:17]  Did he say that?
[06:46:18]  Yes.
[06:46:19]  And then you, he's cheering you on that you don't want to do that.
[06:46:22]  So I feel like that's a little bit of a double standard here.
[06:46:24]  It's okay for you to not want.
[06:46:26]  I'm not tearing that on.
[06:46:27]  You just said.
[06:46:28]  You just said, oh, well, he's kind of got the upper hand.
[06:46:30]  Yes, I am a Christian.
[06:46:31]  Yes.
[06:46:32]  You're looking at me like it was derogatory.
[06:46:35]  That's why I was fine with him not legally marrying a woman because what is marriage in the sense of the state of California?
[06:46:39]  It's like two guys can get married.
[06:46:41]  Secular marriage is retarded.
[06:46:42]  Yeah, it is retarded.
[06:46:43]  So stupid.
[06:46:43]  That's why I was asking.
[06:46:44]  I'm like, oh my, okay, good.
[06:46:45]  Just making sure that you're fine with socially marrying the woman, giving her a ring, staying with her forever, right?
[06:46:50]  And then not financially.
[06:46:53]  I don't know about the ceremonial stuff.
[06:46:57]  Now, I don't know.
[06:46:59]  It depends if she's a Christian woman, although I assume Christian women may have some aversion to marrying someone who's more secular.
[06:47:06]  Although, to be fair, I have pro-Christian sentiment, and I believe that marriage makes sense from a religious perspective, but the legal liabilities, I mean, even for Christian men, cannot be ignored.
[06:47:19]  But there's a religious calling to get married, which makes sense and is justified.
[06:47:25]  But from a purely secular perspective, it's stupid.
[06:47:29]  And then, like, I don't know, to answer your question, okay, well, we didn't get the government involved in our relationship, but she loves me.
[06:47:39]  I love her.
[06:47:40]  If there wasn't a government, nothing changes.
[06:47:43]  Fuck the government.
[06:47:44]  They don't get to dictate how we feel about each other.
[06:47:48]  And you should not be, I suppose, to my children.
[06:47:53]  You should not feel any less than because your friends at school or whatever, their parents are married and the state has sovereignty over their relationship.
[06:48:08]  So my question here is: at what point do you call someone your wife if you're not legally married?
[06:48:15]  I'd probably just call her my girlfriend.
[06:48:17]  Not your partner.
[06:48:18]  Partner's kind of gay, to be honest.
[06:48:21]  That is.
[06:48:22]  I agree.
[06:48:22]  I actually agree with that.
[06:48:23]  I agree with that.
[06:48:24]  I might as well be a bit more.
[06:48:25]  To be fair, though.
[06:48:26]  At that point.
[06:48:27]  To be fair, I think partner is.
[06:48:30]  I don't really, some people have objection to the partner term or whatever, but like because I don't want to get married, that could be a good descriptive word to, you know, girlfriend does seem a bit sophomoric in a way.
[06:48:43]  Actually, I have a great idea.
[06:48:44]  And you're okay with her also calling you, he's my boyfriend, not my husband.
[06:48:48]  He's my man.
[06:48:50]  He's my master, whatever.
[06:48:52]  What?
[06:48:53]  No.
[06:48:54]  I don't know.
[06:48:55]  In the Bible, it says to call your husband Lord, actually.
[06:48:57]  Oh, there you go.
[06:48:58]  Wait, Brian, don't you believe in separation of the church and state, though?
[06:49:02]  No, I'd be fine with Christian nationalism.
[06:49:04]  But do you recognize that that's the government that exists right now?
[06:49:07]  Like, our government is influenced by Judeo-Christian values and was founded upon.
[06:49:13]  Jeo-Christian.
[06:49:14]  Oh, hold on.
[06:49:14]  Wait, wait, wait.
[06:49:15]  You're opening up way too many.
[06:49:17]  Okay, we don't have to.
[06:49:17]  We don't have to.
[06:49:18]  She's like, no.
[06:49:18]  Hold on.
[06:49:19]  I don't know what separation of church and state is.
[06:49:22]  It means that we don't have a theocracy.
[06:49:24]  Our government isn't governed by religion.
[06:49:26]  But what does that mean?
[06:49:26]  And why are gays getting married if it's not?
[06:49:28]  Marriage is something legally recognized by the government.
[06:49:30]  Oh, Natalia.
[06:49:31]  And if our government is not run by religion, then the definition of marriage shouldn't be like purely religious either.
[06:49:37]  And secular marriage should therefore be fine.
[06:49:39]  And there shouldn't be a huge problem with that.
[06:49:41]  Wait, wait, wait.
[06:49:42]  So when I say secular marriage is retarded, I acknowledge that people can get married absent like a religious ceremony.
[06:49:50]  When I say it's stupid or retarded.
[06:49:52]  You're absent like Christianity and all that, right?
[06:49:55]  No.
[06:49:55]  Wait, what?
[06:49:55]  I would disagree.
[06:49:56]  Absent Christianity and all that.
[06:49:58]  Well, so, so, wait, what's your question?
[06:50:00]  Well, I'm saying, okay, you said that secular marriage is stupid or whatever.
[06:50:04]  You like your disavowal.
[06:50:06]  Yeah, I don't see the point of it.
[06:50:07]  Like, what's the actual point of it?
[06:50:09]  Well, like, when you get married, there's like legal implications and things that follow, right?
[06:50:13]  Like, in terms of, I don't know, I'm not that old, but like tax stuff, like health insurance stuff, health insurance stuff, and also like the level of like commitment when it comes to like a marriage, like calling someone your wife, there is a lot more of a serious implication than saying that they're your girlfriend.
[06:50:30]  And to have that level of commitment and trust and partnership is beyond just saying, oh, this is my girlfriend for life, even though we're not religious and we don't want to take it to the next step.
[06:50:38]  Yeah.
[06:50:39]  Yeah, I mean, I suppose it creates an additional barrier to separation.
[06:50:47]  Frankly, I don't think that a relationship should be built on we're going to stay together because it's going to be difficult for us to get out of a relationship we don't otherwise want to be in.
[06:50:57]  That seems like a terrible foundation for a relationship.
[06:51:00]  That's really what I said, though.
[06:51:01]  That is sort of the commitment argument is it's harder for us to untangle ourselves from each other.
[06:51:07]  Therefore, we should stay together.
[06:51:09]  That's fucking more so we made a more serious promise and commitment to each other.
[06:51:13]  Yeah, more than that.
[06:51:13]  So what's the point of that?
[06:51:14]  If the guy ends up being a bad person, to have forever.
[06:51:19]  It's just a commitment.
[06:51:20]  It's a family if they want.
[06:51:21]  A family if they want.
[06:51:22]  But so I would say, though, I actually think in a situation where the man is the breadwinner, and I actually can sort of, like looking at the chessboard, you guys might be able to turn this around on me if you see the chess pieces.
[06:51:36]  So from my perspective, if I'm willing to date a woman who makes little or no money, one of the objections to me getting married is that this would actually create an incentive for her to go towards ending the relationship because there's a financial upside.
[06:51:55]  Whereas if she breaks up with me, like it's the end of the relationship.
[06:51:59]  But then she's got no money and now she hasn't worked for 10 years.
[06:52:01]  She stayed at home with the kids.
[06:52:02]  So what's her incentive?
[06:52:05]  What do you mean?
[06:52:06]  Well, you're saying that, you know, you don't want to get married because of money.
[06:52:10]  But then what's her incentive to stay and give you seven children when there's no commitment financially?
[06:52:16]  There is a commitment.
[06:52:16]  That's the thing is that I'm going to stay with you for our sake and for the sake of our children.
[06:52:22]  Marriage is a self-sacrificial religious institution.
[06:52:24]  When you go into it from this red pillar feminist perspective, it's like ultimately it's going to look like a negative to whoever's participating in it because the women is going to end up, as you said, having to sacrifice her body, having to sacrifice her time and youth for a man.
[06:52:37]  And the man is going to sacrifice his money, his resources, everything he's worked for.
[06:52:41]  It's like, if you're not willing to trust the other person, marriage is just, you know.
[06:52:44]  Then you shouldn't have kids with them for sure.
[06:52:45]  I mean, sure, yeah.
[06:52:46]  No, you can have kids and not want to get married.
[06:52:49]  That's totally fine.
[06:52:50]  I don't think that's morally correct.
[06:52:52]  That's flower tree.
[06:52:55]  But your perspective would also be, Riley, that any sex outside of marriage is sinful and immoral, right?
[06:53:03]  If you're not going to be with them for the rest of your life, yes.
[06:53:05]  No, but even if you are going to be with them for the rest of your life, but you're not married.
[06:53:09]  Well, when you have sex outside of marriage, somebody is still.
[06:53:13]  My bad.
[06:53:14]  Somebody was actually talking about like, okay, if you're dating versus married, like, what actually constitutes being married?
[06:53:19]  And the answer to that is actually sex.
[06:53:21]  That is the actual exact moment when you do get married, which is why it is such a big deal to be promiscuous and have sex with a bunch of men because you're getting married, divorced, married, divorced, married, divorced, married, divorced spiritually.
[06:53:31]  Yes.
[06:53:31]  And your brain essentially just gets growing.
[06:53:34]  No, 100%.
[06:53:35]  I mean, I also disagree with hookup culture.
[06:53:36]  Right.
[06:53:37]  Well, hold on.
[06:53:39]  Hold on.
[06:53:39]  Riley, if that was the case, if it was the case that when you have sex, you are married, then why would there be a need for a formal marriage ceremony?
[06:53:50]  I think for the formal marriage ceremony, that is to show that you're actually serious about it and you're not going to, how do I put it?
[06:53:57]  It's not.
[06:53:58]  I would say that it's security for the girl to know, like, okay, we're having this big event where we're telling everybody about us.
[06:54:03]  We're spending a lot of money on it.
[06:54:04]  This is a pretty good chance he's actually being real about this.
[06:54:07]  Okay, I'll actually have sex with him because he's probably being genuine about it.
[06:54:10]  I've actually talked about it.
[06:54:11]  Well, actually, I have an idea.
[06:54:13]  I have a better question, Riley.
[06:54:15]  Are you a virgin?
[06:54:16]  I'm not.
[06:54:16]  No.
[06:54:17]  Okay.
[06:54:18]  It's been two years.
[06:54:19]  When it comes to marriage, it was a religious.
[06:54:21]  I've abstained for two years.
[06:54:22]  Trust me, by choice.
[06:54:24]  Just like you, I have a woman reach out to me.
[06:54:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[06:54:26]  And it's been by choice for two years.
[06:54:29]  You are currently in a relationship.
[06:54:30]  Yes.
[06:54:31]  And so you both have been celibate.
[06:54:33]  No sex.
[06:54:34]  Oh, okay.
[06:54:35]  No sex.
[06:54:35]  Gotcha.
[06:54:36]  Marriage was supposed to be a religious institution where you had a blessing from the Lord, but then it got absconded by the Enlightenment Age that made it a state's material contract about finances and property contracts.
[06:54:47]  It got perverted and materialized.
[06:54:49]  But it used to have a social media.
[06:54:51]  Yeah, raw tomatoes.
[06:54:53]  What have you heard it?
[06:54:56]  What?
[06:54:56]  What?
[06:54:57]  That was made a long time ago.
[06:54:58]  That was when you said you like raw tomatoes.
[06:55:01]  You broke up.
[06:55:02]  Alan Roach, thank you for the super chat, man.
[06:55:04]  Australian 100.
[06:55:07]  Folstas.
[06:55:09]  Australian Fabia.
[06:55:10]  Okay.
[06:55:11]  Thank you, man.
[06:55:11]  I appreciate it.
[06:55:12]  I got to move into the.
[06:55:13]  I'm sorry.
[06:55:13]  Okay, what's your question really quick?
[06:55:14]  The question is: are you okay with that mentality in reverse?
[06:55:17]  So, for example, my goals this year is to buy some land.
[06:55:20]  I don't have to pay property taxes in Arkansas.
[06:55:22]  I would like to have my children be able to also build on that land.
[06:55:26]  And the reason why I wouldn't want to get married is because my goal is to give my children financial wealth, you know, through the years.
[06:55:34]  And my number one priority now is my children.
[06:55:37]  And so I'm opposed to marriage for the same reasons you are, Brian.
[06:55:41]  Are you against that?
[06:55:43]  Like in reverse, are you against a woman having that same mentality?
[06:55:47]  Oh, no, a woman who's cool with not getting married.
[06:55:50]  I'm totally fine with it.
[06:55:51]  I'm totally fine with it.
[06:55:53]  At least from my perspective.
[06:55:54]  But do I object to like Christian marriage?
[06:55:58]  No, totally fine with it.
[06:55:59]  Makes perfect sense.
[06:56:02]  But I don't really fully understand why secular people, non-religious people get married.
[06:56:07]  It just seems kind of pointless, to be honest.
[06:56:09]  But I agree.
[06:56:11]  I would argue everything that I could have in the marriage, I can have absent marriage.
[06:56:15]  Like, for example, I could have somebody who I stay with and who stays with me for the rest of my life.
[06:56:20]  I can have children.
[06:56:22]  So I can have all those things.
[06:56:24]  What about health insurance?
[06:56:25]  That's usually the big number for secular people.
[06:56:27]  That's why secular people get married.
[06:56:29]  Is health insurance, property liabilities, trust.
[06:56:31]  Babies are expensive to have.
[06:56:32]  There's a lot of extra money.
[06:56:33]  Maybe our wife will be able to get covered if she got a good plan.
[06:56:36]  My last pregnancy was $130,000.
[06:56:38]  So they mentioned sciences.
[06:56:39]  I mean, that's just, there's a lot of questions.
[06:56:41]  You can still use together.
[06:56:43]  Wait, but you can still do it together.
[06:56:45]  So, like, all that stuff, even if I grant that, okay, perhaps one of the benefits of marriage, maybe it presents some financial benefits in either tax ways or other ways.
[06:56:57]  I find that kind of negligible in comparison to the massive financial risk of like community property.

=== Black Men Dating Preferences (08:10) ===

[06:57:04]  We're going to split my assets, really, and alimony.
[06:57:09]  I think that it's a huge liability for me specifically.
[06:57:13]  Now, look, I'll tell you this much.
[06:57:16]  If I meet a woman who makes more than me and I like her, best believe I'm marrying her.
[06:57:23]  Would you make her?
[06:57:25]  I don't care about women being a boss babe.
[06:57:27]  Hold on.
[06:57:27]  I don't, no, it's not that.
[06:57:29]  First off, I don't, it's okay.
[06:57:32]  It's not that.
[06:57:33]  I'm just saying, like, that's the circumstance under which I would get married.
[06:57:37]  Would be, I don't know, she's got a fuck ton of money more than me, anyways.
[06:57:41]  Or commensurate.
[06:57:44]  Let's move on to a different topic.
[06:57:45]  Or no, wait.
[06:57:45]  We had to do AI and then we had to do, we did the battle.
[06:57:48]  Let's do the AI.
[06:57:49]  Okay, here's a fun segment.
[06:57:50]  We've made all of you dudes.
[06:57:52]  Well, I guess Riley, we made him into a woman.
[06:57:55]  So the question is: think of this in your head as you're looking at this.
[06:57:58]  Would you date the male version of you?
[06:58:01]  Oh, I look so chopped as a man.
[06:58:03]  Just yes or no?
[06:58:04]  Would you date him?
[06:58:04]  No.
[06:58:05]  No?
[06:58:05]  Okay, next.
[06:58:08]  That's best to me.
[06:58:10]  Would you date him?
[06:58:12]  I think.
[06:58:14]  Okay, next.
[06:58:17]  Would you date him?
[06:58:18]  Oh, it went away.
[06:58:21]  Probably, yeah.
[06:58:22]  Okay, next.
[06:58:23]  How does your husband feel about that?
[06:58:24]  Wow.
[06:58:26]  So funny.
[06:58:29]  No.
[06:58:31]  Okay.
[06:58:31]  I'm scared.
[06:58:32]  I don't want to see.
[06:58:33]  What the?
[06:58:34]  Oh my gosh.
[06:58:35]  What is that picture?
[06:58:36]  You have a strong jawline.
[06:58:38]  Why do I look so mean?
[06:58:40]  I do have a strong jawline.
[06:58:41]  Yeah, you look cute.
[06:58:42]  Yeah, I mean, if I wasn't married, sure.
[06:58:45]  Aside from the scowl, I feel like if it was a better facial expression, you know, I think it'd be like, it's probably a good-looking dude.
[06:58:51]  Yeah.
[06:58:52]  Next.
[06:58:54]  Oh, God, no.
[06:58:56]  It's not bad.
[06:58:58]  This is funny.
[06:58:59]  You're too far from the microphone, skipper, I don't know.
[06:59:04]  You're a good-looking man.
[06:59:06]  Yeah.
[06:59:06]  I'd date him.
[06:59:07]  Yeah.
[06:59:08]  Next.
[06:59:10]  Absolutely not.
[06:59:11]  What?
[06:59:13]  No, no, no.
[06:59:14]  You.
[06:59:17]  He looks like he's worth $20 million.
[06:59:19]  He does.
[06:59:19]  He's a beard.
[06:59:20]  He does.
[06:59:21]  He looks like he lives in Orange County.
[06:59:22]  Come on.
[06:59:25]  So, no?
[06:59:26]  Into the mics, guys.
[06:59:29]  I mean, I give him a chance.
[06:59:31]  Okay.
[06:59:32]  Next.
[06:59:35]  I'm so sorry.
[06:59:35]  Wow, that was racist.
[06:59:38]  Wait, who?
[06:59:39]  Here, I'll pull it up again.
[06:59:41]  You know.
[06:59:42]  Into the mic, would you date him?
[06:59:45]  No, because he's black.
[06:59:46]  Wait, that looks racist.
[06:59:49]  Wait, He's lighter than you.
[06:59:56]  What?
[06:59:57]  Wait, what?
[06:59:58]  Riley and I have way more in common than we thought.
[07:00:04]  And you help me.
[07:00:06]  This is wonderful.
[07:00:07]  Wait, why?
[07:00:09]  Why would?
[07:00:10]  Like, why don't I like...
[07:00:11]  You a white boy?
[07:00:12]  You don't date black guys?
[07:00:13]  No.
[07:00:14]  Why is that?
[07:00:14]  Have you ever dated the black guy?
[07:00:16]  Riley can give you a lot of people.
[07:00:17]  I talked to a blacklist guy.
[07:00:17]  I can give you a lottery.
[07:00:18]  I'm not going to give you a black guy.
[07:00:19]  Yeah.
[07:00:19]  Can you name someone?
[07:00:21]  I've talked to a black guy.
[07:00:23]  Did you smash?
[07:00:24]  Yeah.
[07:00:26]  But I wouldn't date one.
[07:00:27]  Wait, so, but do you just like, it's not your preference?
[07:00:30]  You don't find them attractive?
[07:00:32]  I guess it's both of those.
[07:00:33]  Like, I used to like them and then I kind of grew out of it.
[07:00:36]  So I like, I'm like whites.
[07:00:37]  What made you grow out of it?
[07:00:38]  You used to like women?
[07:00:40]  No, whites.
[07:00:41]  Oh, okay.
[07:00:41]  And women, too.
[07:00:43]  What made you grow out of black men and not like them?
[07:00:46]  I don't know.
[07:00:48]  I just like grew out of it.
[07:00:49]  I don't know.
[07:00:49]  I'm not allowed to be racist anymore.
[07:00:51]  I got called out for it.
[07:00:52]  I was trying to use like a fish.
[07:00:54]  Yeah, I guess it just like changed.
[07:00:56]  I don't know.
[07:00:56]  I don't think they're like ugly.
[07:00:57]  It just waits.
[07:00:58]  Here, a couple questions for you.
[07:01:01]  So you're black.
[07:01:03]  Would you rather...
[07:01:05]  Right.
[07:01:05]  I don't know.
[07:01:06]  Maybe.
[07:01:07]  Just wanted to.
[07:01:08]  Would you rather date a black person?
[07:01:12]  Or hold on.
[07:01:13]  Let me rephrase this.
[07:01:14]  Would you rather date a black man or a white man?
[07:01:18]  A white man?
[07:01:20]  Real.
[07:01:21]  Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
[07:01:23]  Asian man.
[07:01:24]  Would you rather date a black man or a Latino man?
[07:01:27]  Latina man.
[07:01:28]  Would you rather date a black man or a Indian man?
[07:01:34]  Yo, yo, yo.
[07:01:35]  Why are you Indian?
[07:01:36]  Oh my god, I'm going to give it to you.
[07:01:38]  That face.
[07:01:39]  I'm going to give it a tube.
[07:01:40]  You got to feel my Pakistani.
[07:01:42]  I'm going to go with the black guy.
[07:01:43]  The black eye.
[07:01:45]  Okay.
[07:01:45]  Wait, wait.
[07:01:46]  I got more.
[07:01:47]  I got more.
[07:01:49]  Would you rather date a black man or a Native American man?
[07:01:54]  Native American.
[07:01:55]  I'm trying to think.
[07:01:56]  What other...
[07:01:56]  Being an Eagle Spirit.
[07:01:59]  That's black, basically.
[07:02:00]  Not real.
[07:02:01]  Wait, Australian, Aboriginal.
[07:02:03]  Yeah, Australian Aboriginal.
[07:02:04]  I think, honestly, yeah, I think that's all racist.
[07:02:07]  No, I feel like I might have been Asian, but it's not Asian.
[07:02:10]  Wait, American black or African black?
[07:02:12]  Oh, would you rather date a black man or a Arabic man?
[07:02:19]  Muslim or not Muslim.
[07:02:20]  Yeah.
[07:02:22]  Just Arabic.
[07:02:23]  Arab.
[07:02:25]  Arabic's a language.
[07:02:27]  Sorry.
[07:02:27]  Continue.
[07:02:28]  An Arab?
[07:02:30]  A rab.
[07:02:30]  Arab.
[07:02:31]  Arab.
[07:02:32]  An A-Ray.
[07:02:32]  Arab.
[07:02:33]  Arab.
[07:02:33]  Or a black man.
[07:02:35]  An Arab.
[07:02:36]  Or a black man?
[07:02:37]  Yeah.
[07:02:39]  I don't really know what an Arab is.
[07:02:41]  I'm going to take the black.
[07:02:42]  They look like an Asian.
[07:02:44]  They're actually very good-looking men, but Arab.
[07:02:47]  I never had that before.
[07:02:48]  All right.
[07:02:49]  Okay, interesting.
[07:02:51]  I feel like I should ask you this question, too.
[07:02:53]  Do you have a racial dating preference?
[07:02:55]  In the target zone, I have a preference.
[07:02:56]  Okay, Ryan, I don't have a preference.
[07:02:58]  But okay, would you rather date?
[07:03:00]  Have you dated black men?
[07:03:02]  Yes, I've dated black men.
[07:03:04]  Wait, are you in a relationship right now?
[07:03:07]  Yes, I'm in a relationship.
[07:03:08]  Is it with the black man, white man?
[07:03:10]  If I said white man, would it interest you?
[07:03:13]  Same thing.
[07:03:14]  No, I'm just asking you.
[07:03:15]  It's a black guy?
[07:03:16]  Okay.
[07:03:17]  Would you prefer to date a black man or a white man?
[07:03:22]  How much money do they make?
[07:03:26]  What is the credit score?
[07:03:29]  They make the same.
[07:03:33]  This is kind of hard.
[07:03:35]  I've never fully.
[07:03:36]  You've never met a black guy who made the same as a white man?
[07:03:39]  No, that's not a relationship with conference.
[07:03:44]  I want to say a black man.
[07:03:46]  Yeah.
[07:03:47]  Wait, can I take it up a notch with this?
[07:03:49]  Oh, my God.
[07:03:50]  No, no, it's not bad.
[07:03:52]  It's not bad.
[07:03:54]  Okay, African-American or African American.
[07:03:58]  Wait, say that?
[07:03:58]  No, there's a big difference.
[07:03:59]  I have gotten along.
[07:04:01]  I've gotten along with African Africans so much.
[07:04:04]  I would say if it was like a Nigerian.
[07:04:06]  If it was like.
[07:04:08]  I would probably say over African, African, over African-American.
[07:04:12]  Yeah.
[07:04:12]  Interesting.
[07:04:13]  Okay.
[07:04:13]  Interesting.
[07:04:14]  No, Nigeria.
[07:04:14]  They're so much nicer.
[07:04:15]  Nigerians are awesome.
[07:04:16]  I love Nigerians.
[07:04:17]  Well, you lived in Africa for a little bit.
[07:04:19]  Yeah.
[07:04:20]  I love black people.
[07:04:21]  I love them.
[07:04:21]  They're wonderful.
[07:04:22]  Especially the Nigerians.
[07:04:23]  Even though you don't have any friends.
[07:04:24]  I don't even have any black friends.
[07:04:26]  Oh, shit.
[07:04:26]  He's a YouTuber.
[07:04:28]  No, that's an idea.
[07:04:29]  You both say Trump.
[07:04:31]  You're just trying to save yourself.
[07:04:33]  Okay.
[07:04:34]  It's too late.
[07:04:34]  Here, moving on, something else from the questionnaire.
[07:04:37]  Wait, I'm honestly the man me.
[07:04:39]  Oh, the pictures?
[07:04:40]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[07:04:40]  Sorry, my bad.
[07:04:41]  Let's continue.
[07:04:43]  Oh, my God.
[07:04:44]  I got this.
[07:04:45]  You look like, what's that guy?
[07:04:46]  I feel like they altered my face.
[07:04:48]  They gave you a penny, but your skin's clear.
[07:04:50]  Oh, my gosh.
[07:04:51]  Well, a guy that dated Kim Kardashian.
[07:04:53]  I like David.
[07:04:54]  It's like a black version of a light-skinned version of Peekies.
[07:04:57]  I like Mexican men.
[07:04:59]  Huh?
[07:04:59]  I like Mexican men, so no.
[07:05:01]  I mean, he's a good-looking guy, yes, for sure.
[07:05:04]  So fruity.
[07:05:05]  There's potential.
[07:05:06]  There's white Mexicans.
[07:05:08]  That man is fully white.
[07:05:10]  No, there's white Mexicans.
[07:05:11]  I know.
[07:05:11]  There are white people.
[07:05:12]  If it is facial, that's Nordic.
[07:05:14]  Yeah.

=== Weight Rejection Insecurity (15:55) ===

[07:05:15]  Next.
[07:05:15]  It's getting my brother.
[07:05:17]  No, that actually doesn't look like my brother.
[07:05:19]  No, no.
[07:05:21]  And that's hideous.
[07:05:22]  That's not even my looks match.
[07:05:23]  No, that's incorrect.
[07:05:26]  Error.
[07:05:28]  Okay, next.
[07:05:29]  Smash.
[07:05:29]  No, I'm kidding.
[07:05:30]  Oh, actually.
[07:05:32]  You look like a white attendant.
[07:05:35]  You're a sexual flight attendant.
[07:05:38]  That face does not look natural.
[07:05:39]  I might go gay.
[07:05:40]  I think that looks very natural.
[07:05:42]  They got the big eyebrows.
[07:05:43]  See, here's the thing: women can transition into a man very easily, and sometimes it's passable.
[07:05:48]  This is direct evidence that all these transgenders trying to transition into women, it's impossible.
[07:05:52]  Even with AI, you can't do it.
[07:05:54]  That wasn't the track, didn't you?
[07:05:56]  No, it was not.
[07:05:57]  Yes, it was.
[07:05:57]  Look at that.
[07:05:59]  Look, I get the left picture.
[07:06:01]  I get what you're saying about the left picture, but the very right picture, I don't think so.
[07:06:04]  Brian, would you smash?
[07:06:06]  Smash your pass.
[07:06:07]  She knows your laundry.
[07:06:08]  She did your labyrinth.
[07:06:08]  He's that gay.
[07:06:09]  She did your laundry on the first night.
[07:06:11]  Huge labia.
[07:06:11]  He literally just looks like him with a wiggle.
[07:06:14]  It made his cheeks slightly puffier.
[07:06:17]  The face is shrunk by like 20%.
[07:06:21]  Why did your face look so skinny in the first picture?
[07:06:23]  You have to answer.
[07:06:25]  Smash your pass.
[07:06:26]  With a bunch of those tomboys.
[07:06:29]  You look like you were on orange black.
[07:06:32]  You were definitely on the field hockey.
[07:06:33]  I think very cute, very natural.
[07:06:35]  I feel like it's made you look better before.
[07:06:37]  This one isn't as good.
[07:06:39]  That is true.
[07:06:39]  I have.
[07:06:42]  Yeah.
[07:06:42]  Do you think she has a big labia?
[07:06:44]  She's the main character.
[07:06:46]  Yes.
[07:06:46]  Wait, speaking of big labia, it would pass over.
[07:06:50]  Yeah.
[07:06:51]  Who here has a big labia?
[07:06:54]  We all know, not me anymore.
[07:06:58]  How do you know what he's big?
[07:06:59]  I have a big Audia.
[07:07:02]  Let's just say Audi.
[07:07:03]  Who here has an Audi labia?
[07:07:06]  Brian is fishing for his future wife.
[07:07:08]  Why are you making me like that?
[07:07:09]  I know you're asking me some questions earlier.
[07:07:11]  I got an impression.
[07:07:12]  I just wanted to smash your pass.
[07:07:13]  A practice.
[07:07:14]  What is the impression of my partner to know?
[07:07:16]  Okay.
[07:07:16]  I like how he ranked Hannah the highest on the looks question, and then he directly answered.
[07:07:22]  Wait, can you answer this?
[07:07:24]  I don't know what determines, like, you said you look at a woman and you're like, I got big labia vites.
[07:07:28]  Like, what gives you the big labia vibe?
[07:07:29]  Like, what is it in a woman that gives you the big labia vibe?
[07:07:32]  It's the it's like we already know.
[07:07:35]  We get big dick energy.
[07:07:37]  Like, what's BL energy?
[07:07:39]  Look, I gotta be honest.
[07:07:40]  It's it's not a hundred percent.
[07:07:42]  It's not a science, okay?
[07:07:43]  Sometimes I've been pleasantly surprised, and sometimes I've been way off the mark.
[07:07:48]  I will say, uh, I can't even pinpoint it.
[07:07:51]  It's just the vibe, yo.
[07:07:53]  Yeah.
[07:07:53]  Like, I just get a vibe.
[07:07:54]  Sometimes I can look at a woman.
[07:07:56]  I'm like, but other times I've been like, I thought I had her pegged.
[07:08:00]  No, wait.
[07:08:02]  Pause.
[07:08:03]  And then I was totally wrong.
[07:08:06]  I was like, she gave me big labia energy, but she had like a crate, like just an innie.
[07:08:13]  Happens.
[07:08:13]  It's like the children.
[07:08:14]  So you don't like Xavier of vaginas, basically.
[07:08:17]  It's just like trying to summon the new energy.
[07:08:19]  I have been doing research, my own research, on this subject, and I'm actually writing a book on it.
[07:08:26]  So a professional.
[07:08:28]  A whole book?
[07:08:28]  Is an innie a deal breaker for you?
[07:08:31]  Would you have children with an innie?
[07:08:32]  Because it does grow after childbirth.
[07:08:34]  So would you risk it all and have children with an innie?
[07:08:37]  I don't think.
[07:08:38]  Are you talking about a child's genitalia?
[07:08:40]  It's a little bit weird.
[07:08:41]  No, no.
[07:08:43]  You're misunderstanding my question.
[07:08:44]  Why is your brain going there?
[07:08:46]  Like, that's weird.
[07:08:47]  But would I, if she's a really fantastic woman, does the laundry.
[07:08:57]  I'll take one for the team.
[07:08:58]  Oh, my God.
[07:08:59]  I'll take one for the team.
[07:09:00]  It can grow.
[07:09:01]  There's a chance.
[07:09:01]  It does happen.
[07:09:02]  No, it doesn't.
[07:09:03]  Like, maybe a teeny bit, but like.
[07:09:06]  That's why I had mine chopped off because during birth, hormones change a lot.
[07:09:11]  My nose grew.
[07:09:12]  Like, things grow.
[07:09:13]  Dude, too much labia.
[07:09:15]  Yeah, it's a lot.
[07:09:16]  It's a lot.
[07:09:16]  It's a lot of labia.
[07:09:17]  Yeah, I mean, it's important.
[07:09:19]  It's an important subject.
[07:09:20]  You have a t-shirt, so I'm just saying.
[07:09:22]  Look, it's not a deal breaker.
[07:09:23]  It's not a deal breaker.
[07:09:25]  But, you know, kind of like, you know, how like a guy who's like five foot seven has to make up for it.
[07:09:31]  Okay, well, he's five foot seven, but he's rich and blah, blah, blah, whatever.
[07:09:36]  Like, if a woman has an innie.
[07:09:39]  She really, I don't know, it might be 50-50.
[07:09:43]  She really has, you know, she's got to make up for it, is what I'm saying.
[07:09:47]  Okay, so how does she do it?
[07:09:49]  No, look, it's like a guy with a guy with a small dick.
[07:09:52]  Like, he's got to make up for it.
[07:09:54]  He's got to make up for it in other ways, right?
[07:09:56]  So it's like, it depends on the culture.
[07:09:59]  I respect the preference.
[07:10:00]  Culture, yo.
[07:10:02]  Okay.
[07:10:02]  We could talk.
[07:10:04]  Next topic then.
[07:10:06]  Y'all keep wanting to talk about this big labia thing.
[07:10:08]  I feel like, I don't know, it seems like you guys want to insecure about it.
[07:10:12]  They're seeking affirmation.
[07:10:13]  They're like, wait, wait, but what if it's like, what if it's like small brain?
[07:10:16]  Is that like okay?
[07:10:17]  Also, where's this application of yours?
[07:10:20]  Exactly.
[07:10:21]  Does it want to be his girlfriend?
[07:10:22]  What the fuck?
[07:10:24]  Wait, I was imitating you guys.
[07:10:26]  Wait, so okay.
[07:10:27]  I don't think anyone here is Zelda wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
[07:10:37]  Yeah, absolutely.
[07:10:38]  I mean, I know men are always up for sex, but women are not all the time.
[07:10:44]  I mean, there's a lot of reasons why women might not want to have sex certain days of the week or, you know, certain days of the month.
[07:10:51]  And, you know, again, women are more emotional than men.
[07:10:55]  I know men, you know, even in a marriage, I mean, you know, it's different when you're married.
[07:11:00]  Yes.
[07:11:01]  But women are more emotional.
[07:11:03]  Sometimes I don't know.
[07:11:04]  Sometimes I don't feel good.
[07:11:06]  Sometimes I, you know, I don't know, something is going on in my head and I don't want to have sex because for me, it's an intimacy.
[07:11:12]  Yeah.
[07:11:13]  So, okay, I think that.
[07:11:15]  We're not talking about all the time.
[07:11:16]  We're just talking.
[07:11:17]  The question is, regularly turns him down.
[07:11:20]  So if the girlfriend is sick or she's not feeling well or maybe she's just having an off day and she's not in the mood, I think that's totally fine.
[07:11:30]  However, if you're regularly turning down, then...
[07:11:36]  I still believe that it shouldn't be a reason for a man to dump a woman.
[07:11:40]  I would argue in the same way that Brian brought up the whole, and it's a great example, honestly, the whole bed situation.
[07:11:45]  Like that's neglecting a woman's attention and affection theoretically.
[07:11:49]  So if a woman is neglecting a man sexually, would you be okay if a man was neglecting you with the affection and attention?
[07:11:55]  And if he was, would it be okay for a woman to dump him if she's not if he's not meeting her emotional needs?
[07:12:02]  Or I was just going to say, I kind of agree.
[07:12:03]  I think your sexual needs, like both men and women's sexual needs are important in a relationship the same way a woman's needs her affection.
[07:12:08]  I don't think women have sexual needs, not like men.
[07:12:10]  They have a motivation.
[07:12:11]  I mean, like, are you saying like you wouldn't want to have sex with them or you wouldn't have to do that?
[07:12:15]  Women have sex with them.
[07:12:16]  Those are the unstable women.
[07:12:18]  Those are unstable.
[07:12:19]  Like that's not natural for a woman.
[07:12:21]  No woman is going like that.
[07:12:22]  Where are you for him to go to my room with a magazine?
[07:12:25]  It's girls are basically thinking women still love the guy at 13.
[07:12:28]  Even if not to the same degree, women still have sexual needs.
[07:12:31]  It's just not real.
[07:12:33]  It is, though.
[07:12:33]  It is unlikely.
[07:12:34]  Just because you're asexual and exactly.
[07:12:37]  I mean, I love affection and it's like intimacy for that is affection, but it's like when it's a woman's like, I have to get off just like a man.
[07:12:43]  I'm like, that's just not real.
[07:12:44]  It's just not real to you.
[07:12:47]  It's real.
[07:12:49]  I like intimacy when it comes to like, yes, we're going to cuddle.
[07:12:51]  You're just tripping.
[07:12:52]  You're actually tripping.
[07:12:53]  Maybe it was the right man.
[07:12:54]  Loki.
[07:12:55]  If it's okay.
[07:12:56]  And she didn't claim her husband at first.
[07:12:58]  Like, we know I know.
[07:12:59]  Well, I'm also in the same position as Brian.
[07:13:01]  I'm also majoring.
[07:13:02]  Hold on, let her talk.
[07:13:04]  If it's month after month after month, when it comes to a girl rejecting the guy, there's a reason.
[07:13:10]  There's an underlying reason that she's rejecting him.
[07:13:13]  But then why not break up with him?
[07:13:14]  Because I don't want to fuck.
[07:13:16]  If the reason is, I mean, it would be smart to go and ask.
[07:13:21]  It would be smart to go and ask about that underlying reason.
[07:13:25]  But usually that underlying reason is a reason to break up for most people.
[07:13:30]  I say, but that would still mean that the relationship should break up.
[07:13:34]  Wait, hold on.
[07:13:35]  Let me, I do want to get weigh in from some other people here.
[07:13:39]  So, okay, you do say it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
[07:13:45]  I mean.
[07:13:45]  Yeah, I mean, if they said that's the only motivation, yeah, I think it's really important.
[07:13:49]  Any woman can cook or clean or fold laundry for your husband.
[07:13:53]  You're the only one that really can be intimate with him.
[07:13:56]  So I feel like that is something that is depriving your husband.
[07:13:59]  You're depriving a man of their men need sex, period.
[07:14:05]  No, and you're depriving.
[07:14:06]  Now, unless you have cancer, you're so excited.
[07:14:08]  The argument is it okay for him to leave her is the question.
[07:14:12]  And the counter argument is, well, if he's not meeting her needs emotionally, is it okay for her to leave him?
[07:14:18]  Yes, and Angelica raises a good argument here as it relates to women's needs and if the man is not meeting the woman's needs, is it reasonable for the woman to leave the man?
[07:14:30]  To which I'm assuming you would say yes.
[07:14:33]  Yes.
[07:14:34]  So the woman's not meeting her boyfriend or husband's needs.
[07:14:38]  I just feel like it's not in the same level, the sexual relationship as emotional relationship.
[07:14:42]  Wait, can I ask you, how about this?
[07:14:45]  Let's say in this hypothetical, my girlfriend wants to yap at me for one hour.
[07:14:51]  And then, you know what?
[07:14:53]  And you know what?
[07:14:54]  For like, maybe she does that every single day, but like I turn her down from being able to yap at me six out of seven days of the week.
[07:15:04]  So only one day.
[07:15:06]  The other days I have a headache.
[07:15:08]  My show is on.
[07:15:10]  I don't really want to hear you yap.
[07:15:11]  I'm tired.
[07:15:13]  I mean, I would think, why is she yapping at you?
[07:15:16]  Why?
[07:15:17]  Oh my God, it's not like that.
[07:15:18]  Yeah, I mean, I will.
[07:15:20]  It's kind of the default setting.
[07:15:21]  So it's self-explanatory.
[07:15:23]  I mean, but again, it's not a good example, though.
[07:15:27]  Again, I do think that, you know, just dumping your girlfriend or your wife because she's not wanting to have sex with you.
[07:15:33]  I feel like that's wrong because as a man, you should find out what's going on.
[07:15:36]  Well, I do think it is a good example because if, and this can vary from relationship to relationship, if men have a higher desire for sex than the woman does, the woman has a higher desire for attention and communication perhaps than the man does.
[07:15:53]  I think most men would be more men would be okay with the following scenario.
[07:15:59]  Silence.
[07:16:00]  Whereas women are going to be a bit more desirous of verbal communication.
[07:16:06]  Whereas I think most men, like, I could honestly not talk to my girlfriend for like days on end and be totally fine with it.
[07:16:13]  Just cruel.
[07:16:13]  I'm actually fine with that too.
[07:16:15]  Okay, great.
[07:16:15]  You're an outlier.
[07:16:16]  Wonderful.
[07:16:17]  No, no.
[07:16:18]  I mean, I, most of the time, you know, I prefer silence too because there's introverted women who are fine with it.
[07:16:24]  That's true.
[07:16:25]  Okay, well, I do have to move on to the next thing.
[07:16:27]  A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
[07:16:31]  To which you agree.
[07:16:33]  Allie, right?
[07:16:35]  Allie?
[07:16:35]  That's your name?
[07:16:36]  Allie?
[07:16:36]  Yeah.
[07:16:37]  You agree a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
[07:16:39]  I don't know if anybody else.
[07:16:41]  So why is that?
[07:16:42]  Why should a woman not be rejected because of her weight?
[07:16:47]  I feel, again, we're basing her.
[07:16:49]  You know what?
[07:16:49]  Let's have her go first.
[07:16:53]  I mean, I think all men should be able to have their preference, but at the same time, I don't think that you should be basing people off of just their weight.
[07:17:06]  Okay, okay.
[07:17:06]  So if I have a preference to date a girl that weighs less than me.
[07:17:10]  That's okay.
[07:17:11]  That's okay.
[07:17:11]  And if like if I don't date women that weigh less than me.
[07:17:14]  Or sorry, that don't weigh.
[07:17:16]  Yeah.
[07:17:16]  If I don't date women that weigh less than me, that's fine.
[07:17:20]  So then that's me rejecting them.
[07:17:22]  Well, it's whatever, I mean, it's just whatever you choose.
[07:17:25]  That's all.
[07:17:26]  Okay, yeah, like rejecting them, choosing to reject them.
[07:17:28]  But so why is it wrong?
[07:17:30]  Is your argument that if they get fat, you shouldn't dump them over it?
[07:17:33]  No, no, it's it's not like within a relationship, although it could be.
[07:17:39]  That muddies the water a little bit, but it's more so from the get-go.
[07:17:43]  True, but she's conceding that she wouldn't do it from the get-go, but I'm wondering if by her logic she means if she's gonna get fat, if he can dump her there.
[07:17:49]  That's what my favorite thing is.
[07:17:51]  So it's not, so okay, so just to be clear, just for clarification, for both of you, if a woman, if a man from the get-go, from the jump, doesn't want to date a woman, to date a woman, because she's overweight, you're totally fine with that.
[07:18:09]  Yes and no.
[07:18:10]  Oh my God, you guys are doing a mod in Bailey where you're shifting the goalpost.
[07:18:16]  Okay, so let's start with the more defense.
[07:18:19]  Well, the more the claim that relates more to what's written on the paper.
[07:18:25]  A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
[07:18:28]  Typically, a rejection would imply an initial encounter.
[07:18:33]  You break up with somebody for reasons.
[07:18:37]  You're not, like, if you've been dating a girl for six years, you're not rejecting her, you're dumping her.
[07:18:44]  So I think using the terminology reject would imply that there is a the timeline here is on the short side.
[07:18:54]  So, okay, I see a girl on a dating app and she's every say she's perfect.
[07:19:01]  Like her, her, everything else is perfect, but she's 300 pounds.
[07:19:08]  But like her personality would otherwise, like our personality would be perfect, but I will not date her because she's 300 pounds.
[07:19:15]  Is that wrong?
[07:19:17]  Oh, no.
[07:19:20]  I believe it's wrong.
[07:19:21]  You believe it's wrong.
[07:19:23]  Yes.
[07:19:23]  Why?
[07:19:24]  I just, again, I have dated fat men too.
[07:19:29]  Okay, but sorry, go ahead, continue.
[07:19:30]  Yeah, I just believe that basing everything off looks is wrong for all the wrong reasons.
[07:19:35]  Yeah, I believe that.
[07:19:36]  I mean, I consider myself like she said, I analyze everything about a man.
[07:19:42]  Would you reject a guy who's 4'11?
[07:19:45]  Probably not.
[07:19:46]  I mean, I have dated short kings too.
[07:19:48]  But you can't.
[07:19:49]  No, no, no, no, hold on.
[07:19:50]  Hold on.
[07:19:51]  I'm going to hold you to this because this is what you wrote.
[07:19:53]  Minimum height of a man you would date.
[07:19:55]  You're 5'1.
[07:19:57]  You wrote 5'7.
[07:19:58]  We have to hold you to that standard.
[07:20:00]  Okay.
[07:20:00]  Lies.
[07:20:01]  You wouldn't.
[07:20:01]  So that's minimum height is 5'7.
[07:20:05]  I mean, I can say less than that.
[07:20:06]  But yeah, I mean, that will work.
[07:20:07]  Did you date a guy who's your height?
[07:20:09]  I have.
[07:20:10]  You have, but is it...
[07:20:13]  Okay, one time I went on a date with a fat chick, it's not my preference.
[07:20:20]  I mean, I can say that it could not be my preference, but I wouldn't just judge someone of the way their height or the look.
[07:20:28]  What would actually be wrong with it, though?
[07:20:30]  I mean, if that's your preference, that's fine.
[07:20:32]  I just think it's not right.
[07:20:33]  I just think that it's wrong just to judge someone by the way they look.
[07:20:37]  But don't you think attraction has to be there in a relationship?
[07:20:39]  Well, yeah, exactly.
[07:20:40]  But if you, if you're like, most people, like, I'm not attracted to like an obese person the same way maybe Brian would be attracted to it.
[07:20:46]  And it's a lifestyle, too.
[07:20:47]  You can't help that attraction.
[07:20:48]  So it's not morally wrong to like have no attraction to a fat person.
[07:20:51]  Have you ever rejected a guy at a bar because he just wasn't your type?
[07:20:55]  Like you're like, oh, you're not attractive.
[07:20:56]  Like, no.
[07:20:57]  No, thank you.
[07:20:58]  Absolutely.
[07:20:58]  Okay, so you're saying that we are morally wrong for saying, no, we don't want to date a 300-pound woman who's going to have like a diabetes when she's pregnant and not be able to give birth.
[07:21:09]  No, no, that's immoral.

=== Attraction And Lifestyle (08:06) ===

[07:21:10]  But like you're like, oh yeah, I've rejected guys.
[07:21:13]  Well, but I have to start off, I don't go to bars.
[07:21:16]  But yeah, I have rejected guys at different times.
[07:21:19]  Based off their looks.
[07:21:19]  Yeah.
[07:21:19]  Have you rejected that?
[07:21:20]  Based off looks?
[07:21:21]  No, based off how they're looking at.
[07:21:22]  So if a guy was a stunning knight in shining armor, strong jawline, look at these eyebrows, like just like this.
[07:21:29]  If he looked just like that, you wouldn't have rejected him.
[07:21:32]  You would have said, oh, yes.
[07:21:33]  You would have said, definitely.
[07:21:35]  No, I mean, again, I don't base myself.
[07:21:37]  When I date, I don't actually look how...
[07:21:40]  I don't, if they look good, okay, fine.
[07:21:42]  But I mean, I'm still going to ask you.
[07:21:43]  So it doesn't matter at all.
[07:21:44]  It doesn't matter at all for me.
[07:21:46]  Physical attraction is a very important aspect.
[07:21:48]  It is.
[07:21:48]  I feel like it is, but again, not for me.
[07:21:52]  But you got to think about everyone, right?
[07:21:54]  Oh, yeah.
[07:21:54]  Even what they're asking me for me, it's not.
[07:21:56]  So I think this is a, no offense.
[07:21:58]  I think you're bullshitting.
[07:21:59]  I think you're lying.
[07:22:00]  But even if we were to grant that you care nothing whatsoever about looks and physical appearance, your own preference would not map on to like the vast majority of other people.
[07:22:14]  And it wouldn't mean that they're wrong for, like, yeah, okay, you, um, like, for example, I like big labia.
[07:22:20]  I don't think it's wrong for a guy to have a genitalia preference to, like, prefer an innie or whatever.
[07:22:26]  No, I mean, I mean, it's not wrong.
[07:22:29]  I just, you know, like I said, that's a question towards me.
[07:22:32]  If it's wrong for me, it's wrong for me, but not for everybody else, I guess.
[07:22:35]  No, but the statement is not, do you, from, is it wrong for you?
[07:22:42]  It's like a general statement.
[07:22:44]  For me, I feel like.
[07:22:45]  Like, for example, the question, for example, on the questionnaire, question, or statement 24.
[07:22:50]  Women are the primary victims of war, not men.
[07:22:53]  Have you ever been the victim of war?
[07:22:55]  No.
[07:22:56]  Not humans.
[07:22:57]  Okay, but so I'm asking you like to think in a more general sense, not just strictly about your own.
[07:23:06]  Okay, you were talking about like generalizing.
[07:23:08]  Maybe, yeah, maybe it's not wrong for a man to have their own preferences.
[07:23:12]  I think she's saying it's fine for everyone else.
[07:23:13]  It just feels wrong.
[07:23:14]  Okay, so then the less defensible position.
[07:23:16]  I don't even think it's wrong, though, in a relationship for a man or a woman, I don't have a double standard, to break up with their significant other if they like gain 200 pounds.
[07:23:27]  I don't think that would be wrong, even in a relationship.
[07:23:30]  Now, perhaps you can give a bit of leeway.
[07:23:35]  Perhaps they can correct it, but I don't think it would actually be wrong.
[07:23:39]  For me, it's a health thing in a lifestyle.
[07:23:41]  I'm very active.
[07:23:41]  I like to hike.
[07:23:42]  I like to go on my bike.
[07:23:43]  I like to do all the things.
[07:23:44]  I like to talk.
[07:23:45]  I can't do.
[07:23:47]  I've been sitting here.
[07:23:48]  Go ahead.
[07:23:48]  Go ahead.
[07:23:49]  Continue with your point.
[07:23:49]  Go ahead.
[07:23:50]  Go ahead.
[07:23:51]  Just disregard.
[07:23:52]  Go ahead.
[07:23:52]  Go ahead.
[07:23:52]  Okay, so anyways, I can't do that with someone who's 300 pounds.
[07:23:55]  They can't maintain this lifestyle.
[07:23:56]  I'm also granola, and I feel like if you don't care about yourself, why am I supposed to care about yourself?
[07:24:01]  And who wants to date a lazy person if you're extremely overweight that says that you don't care about yourself or you're lazy or you don't have ambitions and goals?
[07:24:08]  Yeah, and I got huge this last pregnancy.
[07:24:11]  I gained over 100 pounds and I lost it.
[07:24:13]  So when I, because I know that's not my lifestyle, that's not who I am as a person.
[07:24:17]  I just had a baby late in life, but this is my lifestyle.
[07:24:21]  So if your wife or your girlfriend or whatever has a baby, like obviously some little lean weight because you get fat sometimes.
[07:24:27]  Well, no, okay.
[07:24:27]  So yeah, if your girlfriend is pregnant, yeah, of course she's going to put on some weight.
[07:24:33]  But I think, let's say, for example, absent a pregnancy, your girlfriend puts on 200 pounds.
[07:24:41]  That's like a massive material change to your level of attractiveness, physical attraction to her.
[07:24:48]  Now, look, the man could also choose to stay with her because he loves her.
[07:24:51]  That would be fine too.
[07:24:53]  But I don't think I would, I think it'd be hard pressed to actually say that it's wrong for a man to break up with his girlfriend because he's no longer attracted to her.
[07:25:04]  Women break up with men all the time for a myriad of reasons.
[07:25:06]  They fall out of love.
[07:25:08]  They're no longer attracted to the guy.
[07:25:09]  Whatever it might be, the guy changes in one way or the other.
[07:25:13]  People break up.
[07:25:13]  I don't think it's wrong to do so.
[07:25:18]  Any pushback on that from anybody?
[07:25:20]  I guess not.
[07:25:21]  Okay.
[07:25:21]  Somebody...
[07:25:22]  Oops.
[07:25:22]  Hold on.
[07:25:23]  These guys in the comments.
[07:25:24]  It's like actually insane.
[07:25:25]  They keep calling you teammates really care.
[07:25:27]  I'm here and you're not.
[07:25:28]  Like, that just says enough.
[07:25:30]  You're in your bed, doomscrolling.
[07:25:31]  It says enough.
[07:25:32]  It does say enough.
[07:25:33]  It does say enough.
[07:25:35]  It says enough.
[07:25:36]  It's funny when the conservative men are with them.
[07:25:37]  They're jealous.
[07:25:39]  It's just that one person.
[07:25:40]  It makes me laugh or how they're going to be able to do it.
[07:25:41]  They're doom scrolling in their bed.
[07:25:43]  They're staying up way too late.
[07:25:45]  They're all in bed and we're here.
[07:25:46]  Frankie, you write, women are oppressed in the USA.
[07:25:49]  Why is that?
[07:25:50]  Or you agree with the statement anyways?
[07:25:53]  Listen.
[07:25:57]  I would agree with it because the propaganda that controls women and that we have to live by is quite oppressive.
[07:26:06]  Like, yeah, like what?
[07:26:08]  Like, for instance, like social media.
[07:26:12]  I feel like we're just so tied to social media in a certain way.
[07:26:15]  And it's just kind of like we're kind of groomed into, well, I want to just say social media.
[07:26:19]  There's a lot of things that from the beginning of when we were born, we're just kind of groomed into that we have to do.
[07:26:25]  For instance, okay.
[07:26:27]  For instance, like you saying that if you invite a woman over and you sleep with her and she does your laundry, like, why is it that it has to be laundry?
[07:26:37]  Like, would you expect a man to do something like that for you?
[07:26:39]  I'm not gay.
[07:26:40]  So, no, but I'm just saying, like, it's just like the types of things that you would think for a woman to do something for you that's kind.
[07:26:47]  You wouldn't expect a man to do something for you.
[07:26:48]  But women expect men to do things for them.
[07:26:51]  Well, not only that, but hearkening back to the original point I made before, when it comes to social media, they're injecting insecurities in you so that way you could wear a ton of makeup, go on to OnlyFans Now because they market it as like just a social media influencer program.
[07:27:03]  It's like if we're being degraded, it's by the things that men are warning us against.
[07:27:08]  It's not by our own, it's not because they're pushing something onto us, it's because they're trying to keep it men are subscribed to.
[07:27:14]  I'm not going to specify the group.
[07:27:16]  I'm going to pull a kanye.
[07:27:17]  I'm not going to say which group of men.
[07:27:20]  But I also think that Americans have told me that we have a TTS.
[07:27:24]  Daddy Nevin donated $200.
[07:27:26]  Thank you, Nevin.
[07:27:27]  Tamu Kirk is getting hella closeted gay allegations in the chat.
[07:27:31]  Care to respond.
[07:27:33]  Care to elaborate.
[07:27:34]  What the fuck?
[07:27:34]  Care to caress a rainbow.
[07:27:38]  That said dick.
[07:27:39]  This is ridiculous.
[07:27:41]  Notice how it says allegations and it doesn't say facts.
[07:27:46]  It says allegations.
[07:27:47]  It's an allegation, not a fact.
[07:27:48]  That's kind of a weak comeback.
[07:27:49]  I'm not going to let you go.
[07:27:49]  I'm just saying it's shit's true.
[07:27:50]  Pride month is coming up soon.
[07:27:52]  I think Americans.
[07:27:53]  Not to mention, being a knockoff of a great man, does that not make you a good man?
[07:27:57]  No, I'll be right back.
[07:27:58]  They said Timu.
[07:27:58]  They said Timu.
[07:28:00]  Desert Jorge, please have Riley back on the pod again.
[07:28:04]  I haven't laughed this hard in ages.
[07:28:05]  Very basic and consistent.
[07:28:06]  All right.
[07:28:07]  It seems like you didn't bring enough liberals on.
[07:28:11]  This would be so much better if there's like a bunch of liberals.
[07:28:14]  I think Americans tend to use the word oppressed way too much, especially those who don't travel.
[07:28:19]  If you actually leave your bubble, you can see that we are not oppressed, not even the slightest.
[07:28:23]  W.
[07:28:24]  And traveling and being well-traveled.
[07:28:25]  That's why being well-traveled is important.
[07:28:27]  That's why I sent my, you know, I took my son to the UK for his high school graduation last year.
[07:28:31]  The first thing he said when he got off the airplane was, he looked around.
[07:28:34]  Mom, I've never been so happy to be an American than I am right now because it gives you a priest.
[07:28:39]  You said that I'm in the UK.
[07:28:42]  I'm bringing you kids to take him.
[07:28:46]  It looks like Iraq.
[07:28:47]  I was terrified.
[07:28:48]  I was terrified.
[07:28:49]  I'm British, so I'm just the last time that you're.
[07:28:51]  Oh, no.
[07:28:52]  Oh, it was awesome.
[07:28:52]  I was there in December.
[07:28:53]  L London.
[07:28:54]  It looks like.
[07:28:56]  L UK.
[07:28:57]  It looked like Iraq.
[07:28:58]  It really did.
[07:28:59]  The question also is: what affluent parts of the UK are you visiting versus what accessible, affordable parts of the US.
[07:29:04]  I've been all around.
[07:29:05]  I've been all around the United States.
[07:29:07]  But I'm just saying, we looked around.
[07:29:08]  I mean, there's certainly poor parts of London, but there's also poor parts of London.
[07:29:11]  No, London's entirely lost.
[07:29:14]  It's completely lost.
[07:29:14]  Completely.
[07:29:16]  Hold on, go into my Discord.

=== War Impact On Civilians (11:10) ===

[07:29:17]  Go into the research infographics tab.
[07:29:19]  I recently posted some...
[07:29:21]  Or wait, fuck, did I post it?
[07:29:23]  Ah, fuck.
[07:29:25]  The UK is still like a first world.
[07:29:26]  They're arresting people for memes that they post online.
[07:29:29]  That's oppression.
[07:29:31]  Don't do that here.
[07:29:31]  Downtown London used to be one of the nicest areas in the entire world, and now it's a shit show with the Muslims over there.
[07:29:37]  It may be how liberalism embrace Islam without recognizing how oppressive it is to win.
[07:29:45]  I know.
[07:29:47]  Yes, and they even do removal of the clitoris in some countries.
[07:29:54]  Brian is going to be a little bit more like that.
[07:29:58]  Wait, he sent it to me.
[07:29:59]  Taylor Kirk is getting closeted gay facts thrown his way.
[07:30:03]  Care to respond?
[07:30:04]  You sent a chair to elaborate.
[07:30:06]  I need to send it twice.
[07:30:06]  Care to take Brian on a day to the building's laundry.
[07:30:09]  Oh, let's see.
[07:30:10]  Okay, Daddy Nevin.
[07:30:12]  Wait, you just said daddy Nevin.
[07:30:14]  Okay, whatever.
[07:30:15]  I can say the words.
[07:30:17]  Well, hold on.
[07:30:18]  It cut out.
[07:30:19]  It cut out.
[07:30:19]  Hey, Nevin, it cut out.
[07:30:21]  We need you to say the message again.
[07:30:22]  It just cut out.
[07:30:23]  I didn't get enough time to read the rest.
[07:30:25]  I wanted to read the user again.
[07:30:26]  Care to elaborate?
[07:30:27]  Care to explain.
[07:30:30]  It's funny.
[07:30:30]  If you want to.
[07:30:32]  Okay.
[07:30:33]  A few more here from the questionnaire.
[07:30:35]  Shona, really quick.
[07:30:36]  Women are the primary victims of war, not men.
[07:30:39]  You didn't circle it, but you said both are affected in different ways.
[07:30:41]  Well, yeah, we've been over this in another episode.
[07:30:43]  Like, men die more often.
[07:30:44]  Death is the worst thing you go through.
[07:30:45]  But I would also say women experience certain types of trauma during war that men don't experience.
[07:30:50]  Of course, of course, women do experience bad things in war, but certain bad things that men don't.
[07:30:56]  So is it disproportionately?
[07:30:58]  I'm still not saying it's equal, which is why I didn't circle it because men do fight more.
[07:31:01]  They die more than primarily.
[07:31:02]  Wait, wait, wait.
[07:31:03]  Are we talking about, because a lot of civilians die in war, too?
[07:31:06]  And maybe that's probably that trick that what we're missing here.
[07:31:09]  Because a lot of women and children are murdered, okay, for no reason.
[07:31:14]  They go out into the streets.
[07:31:16]  And I know this because I was in the Marine Corps.
[07:31:17]  I told you those Marines used to come to our unit and like because they were on their way out the door.
[07:31:22]  And one of the stories they told us is that they were instructed during the Battle of Fallujah to go out and shoot, kill everyone.
[07:31:30]  Women and children just literally go out, no rhymeries, and murder everyone.
[07:31:35]  They're just Goyum.
[07:31:36]  So what are we talking about when we say, do men die more or do women die?
[07:31:39]  Are we talking about civilians?
[07:31:40]  Are we talking about military women?
[07:31:41]  We're talking in totality.
[07:31:43]  I don't know because we're not over there.
[07:31:45]  But I do know that they were instructed to kill everyone.
[07:31:49]  I think statistically, more men do die.
[07:31:51]  So more men die in war.
[07:31:54]  The majority of soldiers are men, especially those that are seeing combat are men.
[07:32:02]  So while women, whether they're soldiers or civilians, while there are women who are going to have negative outcomes during wartime, there's more men who face negative outcomes than do women.
[07:32:18]  I do want to say, I feel, okay, like maybe this is controversial, but I feel like innocent civilians dying during war is a worse scenario than soldiers dying during war, right?
[07:32:27]  I think we can agree with that.
[07:32:28]  Yeah, even granting that, you would still assume like chill, okay, so of the children who died, the gender split would be equal there.
[07:32:34]  It'd be between.
[07:32:35]  If the civilian split is equal, then yeah.
[07:32:37]  Well, I don't know if like the it depends on the conflict.
[07:32:43]  So in like the in large-scale wars like World War II, World War I, where like vast swaths of the eligible male soldiers were a lot of them were soldiers, then a higher proportion, then yes, a higher proportion of, yeah, we're not responding to those.
[07:33:02]  A higher proportion of the civilian population, adult civilian population will be female.
[07:33:09]  But even then, it's like, okay, so like how many women more female civilians died than in that case, women were affected worse than that.
[07:33:17]  And then they would be like, okay, it is the case if, like, let's say if it is your country that is being bombed, then the civilian women are facing issues there.
[07:33:29]  But take the United States, for example.
[07:33:32]  There's no way in hell during World War II or World War I that you could ever say that, at least for Americans, that women comparable.
[07:33:45]  It could ever be comparable between women and men who are Americans.
[07:33:50]  Because aside from Pearl Harbor, there wasn't an invasion of the United States.
[07:33:56]  There wasn't bombing campaigns of American cities.
[07:34:00]  Women were not in the trenches during World War I. American women.
[07:34:05]  World War II, women were not on the battlefield fighting the Nazis.
[07:34:10]  Right.
[07:34:10]  So when it comes to who's fighting the war, men are affected worse, and men are killed more.
[07:34:14]  That's why I didn't circle that.
[07:34:15]  Right.
[07:34:16]  Right.
[07:34:16]  Well, that's the thing is that I have that as my biggest problem.
[07:34:19]  It's like there's certain issues like pregnancy that affect women way more.
[07:34:22]  There's certain issues like war that affect men way more.
[07:34:24]  At the end of the day, you can't split them apart because even though it affects others more, if one sex is affected, the other one's going to be affected negatively too.
[07:34:32]  It's like you can't argue, like, oh, who's exposed to the marriage?
[07:34:35]  I will say, though, a woman getting raped during war affects her more than it affects the man around her.
[07:34:41]  Say like her husband's already dead.
[07:34:43]  She goes through that.
[07:34:44]  Her daughter goes through that.
[07:34:45]  Like, that's suddenly something that's affecting the woman in this scenario, not the men.
[07:34:48]  But it demoralizes the men around her, too.
[07:34:50]  That's the thing.
[07:34:50]  She's the primary person around her at that point.
[07:34:53]  Like in her platoon.
[07:34:54]  Maybe her husband's dead already, though.
[07:34:56]  That's not her husband.
[07:34:57]  Maybe she's a single woman.
[07:34:58]  It's not her husband.
[07:34:59]  It's the men in the platoon are demoralized that one of their own was so violated this way and was impregnated by the enemy.
[07:35:05]  They might be demoralized, but it still affected her worst.
[07:35:07]  Yes, but what I'm saying is that the men are also affected.
[07:35:10]  Everyone is going to have negative consequences on the sexes.
[07:35:13]  You can't divide it.
[07:35:14]  The same goes for a male soldier getting killed.
[07:35:17]  That demoralizes the woman at home too.
[07:35:18]  Yes, of course.
[07:35:19]  I think you guys know what goes on behind closed doors in war.
[07:35:23]  I had my friends watching young Iraqi girls, girls, get raped by Iraqi soldiers that are, there were the good guys.
[07:35:32]  Nobody's denying that SAN rape happens during wartime.
[07:35:36]  However, if we're doing a comparative analysis between the amount of male civilian deaths and male military casualties, look, rape is fucking terrible.
[07:35:46]  But my question to you would then be: how many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
[07:35:53]  I am against all the wars that are going on.
[07:35:55]  Answer the question: How many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape?
[07:36:00]  Death is worse.
[07:36:01]  So, zero.
[07:36:03]  Answer the question, though.
[07:36:05]  I just did.
[07:36:06]  I'm not willing to let anyone die.
[07:36:08]  I would also say that.
[07:36:09]  Okay, so then we've done, we've made a determination that death, although rape is terrible, death is conceivably worse than rape.
[07:36:16]  And if more men die than there are women who are raped, then just on that metric alone, even though it's a bit blunt and an oversimplification, men would thus be the primary victims of war, given the higher number of male deaths as compared to female rapes.
[07:36:31]  But that's the thing is that the same people sending men to war are the same ones turning women into like whores, basically.
[07:36:36]  It's contrived.
[07:36:37]  Bro, what do you literally?
[07:36:39]  I don't know how far to go with this.
[07:36:41]  You already know what I'm talking about.
[07:36:42]  I'm like, when it comes to the whole war issue, women are not the ones wanting men to go to war.
[07:36:46]  The only people who benefit are multinational corporations that want land.
[07:36:49]  That's why they burned Argentina to get that land.
[07:36:51]  That's why they're having the Ukrainian-Russian war right now.
[07:36:53]  The Russians and the Ukrainians would have not naturally gone to war.
[07:36:56]  We would have never invaded Iran.
[07:36:58]  Military-industrial complex.
[07:36:59]  Yeah, exactly.
[07:37:00]  It's like we literally, like, women do not want their men, nor do men want to go to these contrived wars that literally do not benefit the nation.
[07:37:06]  I mean, you're saying the Ukrainian war is because there were like Russian business interests.
[07:37:12]  I want to say Russian.
[07:37:13]  No, it's not Russia.
[07:37:15]  It's not Russian.
[07:37:16]  Wait, wait, you think so.
[07:37:17]  It's like Alexander Solskinitsyn.
[07:37:20]  I can't pronounce his last name.
[07:37:21]  Alexander Soltskin.
[07:37:23]  Yeah, it is hard to say.
[07:37:24]  I know.
[07:37:24]  You tried getting me.
[07:37:25]  Yeah, you can't do it.
[07:37:27]  Yeah, I can't do it either.
[07:37:29]  Solshenitkin or something like that.
[07:37:31]  I can't even pronounce it.
[07:37:32]  Hold on.
[07:37:33]  It's Russian.
[07:37:35]  No, it's not Russian.
[07:37:37]  So Russia invades Ukraine.
[07:37:39]  That's why Russia's been saying they don't want this war.
[07:37:42]  Russia invades Ukraine.
[07:37:44]  No, I don't think that's what happened.
[07:37:46]  NATO ended up saying, well, Ukraine can be part of NATO.
[07:37:48]  The southern part of Ukraine said we don't want to be part of NATO.
[07:37:51]  That's why they ended up bombing the Dumbass.
[07:37:53]  And then they ended up pushing forth this war, which then encroached upon the whole arms deal.
[07:37:57]  I mean, NATO was supposed to be an anti-Russian, like, whole political organization.
[07:38:01]  So, yes.
[07:38:02]  So, okay, you're saying that there was provocation towards Russia, but Russia did initiate the land invasion of Ukraine.
[07:38:08]  Who was the mastermind behind this whole orchestration?
[07:38:10]  Ukraine's not at fault, and neither is Russian.
[07:38:12]  The Ukrainians have been dying.
[07:38:14]  It's a much bigger plan at foot.
[07:38:16]  The same people who orchestrated NATO and the UN and the World Economic Forum are the ones pushing these wars.
[07:38:22]  America.
[07:38:22]  Why are Americans?
[07:38:23]  Why are Americans pushing it?
[07:38:24]  It's not America.
[07:38:25]  America's also a puppet.
[07:38:26]  It's like, why are men and women fighting when it's like there's a bigger enemy above us putting us together, basically?
[07:38:34]  I don't know who this enemy is, but anyways.
[07:38:40]  What the fuck?
[07:38:41]  I'm like, why exactly are we fighting wars?
[07:38:43]  Is the issue?
[07:38:44]  Like, what merit, what resources, what invasion did Ukraine do to us?
[07:38:47]  Why are we talking about the people?
[07:38:48]  So is this?
[07:38:51]  That's not a conspiracy.
[07:38:52]  It's literally like factually supported.
[07:38:54]  So is it?
[07:38:55]  I'm not allowed to say that.
[07:38:56]  I'm not going to say it.
[07:38:57]  Are you saying it's elites?
[07:38:59]  Yes.
[07:38:59]  Let's say the satanic, pedophilic elites who drink baby's blood are the ones that are doing this.
[07:39:03]  So just to be clear, all warfare throughout human history has been, it hasn't been for like various geopolitical reasons or like land disposition.
[07:39:12]  Especially during the 20th century, no.
[07:39:14]  I think it's all been a bank-promoted conspiracy.
[07:39:16]  Okay, so like if we go back to the 15, like the 1500s when France and England were warring with each other, it was the satanic.
[07:39:25]  No, she did say the 20th century.
[07:39:27]  Okay, so you're saying it's a modern.
[07:39:30]  Hold on, hold on, but let me test the logic here a little bit.
[07:39:33]  So what were the justifications for wars previously?
[07:39:38]  What you said, geographically, is it then, thus, is it, look, and I'll know the validity of your claims.
[07:39:45]  Is it possible that modern-day military conflicts could be due to the same historical reasons for war?
[07:39:53]  No.
[07:39:53]  Well, not for our involvement.
[07:39:54]  How are we expanding into the Middle East?
[07:39:56]  We're not.
[07:39:56]  We're not even promoting Christian values over there, even though we're supposedly a Christian nation, as Shauna ended up trying to allude to.
[07:40:02]  It's like we have literally no business in anyone else's country, not Venezuela, although it is nice because it is what we're doing.
[07:40:07]  Look, I don't think the U.S. should be involved in any of this shit.
[07:40:11]  But then why are we going to war when it doesn't benefit anyone?
[07:40:14]  Like, it's literally a nonsense war.
[07:40:16]  Yeah, it's like, why are we funding debtting ourselves?
[07:40:19]  Like, sure, Russia would want the land grab of Ukraine because, you know, most of Russia's a lot of people are going to be able to do it.
[07:40:23]  I don't think it's just land grab for Russia.
[07:40:25]  But if that's the case, why would Russia do what Russia's going to do?

=== Life Preserver Hypotheticals (16:00) ===

[07:40:27]  I don't care.
[07:40:28]  It's way over there.
[07:40:29]  We should put our resources in the Western Hemisphere.
[07:40:31]  We're going to be spending on this.
[07:40:32]  That's not my wheelhouse.
[07:40:33]  The geopolitical war stuff.
[07:40:35]  So, I mean, I'm not sure I could give particular knowledgeable answers on this.
[07:40:40]  I mean, my understanding, obviously, the United States is aligned with the West.
[07:40:45]  It's aligned with NATO.
[07:40:47]  It's aligned with Europe.
[07:40:48]  And so, you know, I mean, we have historical conflict with Russia, especially when there was the USSR.
[07:40:56]  My understanding, though, is that there was this push for Ukraine to get involved with NATO, right?
[07:41:03]  Is that correct?
[07:41:05]  And from Putin's perspective, he's like, okay, this is creating an untenable position for us to basically have NATO in our front yard, basically.
[07:41:17]  That's my understanding of it.
[07:41:18]  Maybe that's like super simplistic.
[07:41:20]  But anyways, I'll move it on back to dating.
[07:41:24]  Let's see.
[07:41:26]  Hold on.
[07:41:27]  We have to do this.
[07:41:27]  I want to wait until she's back.
[07:41:30]  Let's do this, though.
[07:41:31]  Okay, men should provide, men should be chivalrous, husband should be willing to die protecting.
[07:41:37]  You will keep your last name?
[07:41:39]  I think we've talked about that.
[07:41:40]  I don't know what I'm going to do.
[07:41:42]  Well, you did say you circled, I will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
[07:41:45]  Might hyphenate.
[07:41:46]  Might keep my last name.
[07:41:47]  Husband should protect.
[07:41:49]  Men should be chivalrous.
[07:41:51]  Husband should be willing to die, but you won't take his last name.
[07:41:54]  I'm seeing if anybody else has.
[07:41:56]  Can I say something about that?
[07:41:58]  When it comes to these things of like paying for dates, being chivalrous, I don't insert shoulds and expectations.
[07:42:03]  What I think, though, is like, okay, if I have options of different men, maybe this one's not willing to pay.
[07:42:09]  There is one who is willing to pay and who is willing to activist.
[07:42:11]  Why would I just not choose the better one?
[07:42:13]  That's my whole thing.
[07:42:13]  It's just like what you said about the laundry.
[07:42:15]  Because it's nice.
[07:42:16]  You got options.
[07:42:17]  Okay.
[07:42:18]  Oh, yeah, sure.
[07:42:19]  Okay, Joy.
[07:42:21]  Men should pay on first dates.
[07:42:22]  Men should provide protect.
[07:42:24]  Husbands should be willing to die protecting you.
[07:42:27]  You're going to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
[07:42:30]  Why is that?
[07:42:31]  Not keep it, but hyphenate it due to me being the only girl.
[07:42:35]  So I would.
[07:42:37]  Does he have to hyphenate his last name?
[07:42:39]  No, I'm in hard sales.
[07:42:40]  And what about the kids?
[07:42:41]  Do they get his last name or do they hyphenate?
[07:42:43]  No, they get his.
[07:42:45]  Okay, that's somewhat better.
[07:42:46]  I'm going to keep mine, yeah.
[07:42:47]  Okay.
[07:42:48]  All right.
[07:42:50]  Anna, men should pay on first dates.
[07:42:52]  Men should provide protect.
[07:42:53]  Men should be chivalrous.
[07:42:54]  Husbands should be willing to die protecting you.
[07:42:57]  You will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
[07:42:59]  Why is that?
[07:43:00]  I did change it when I was married, but this time my youngest has my last name.
[07:43:05]  He's the one to carry on my family's last name.
[07:43:07]  Like, that's it.
[07:43:07]  The buck stops here.
[07:43:08]  So I kind of want to keep it for him.
[07:43:10]  But if he chooses to change his last name to his father's, that's his decision.
[07:43:14]  And then maybe I would reconsider changing my last name.
[07:43:16]  So you've done it previously, but you kind of don't want to do that.
[07:43:20]  All right.
[07:43:21]  Most of you, I think almost all of you, husbands should be willing to die protecting you.
[07:43:26]  I think everyone answered that.
[07:43:29]  Everyone.
[07:43:30]  Me personally, this is probably the take that gets everyone pissed off, including the conservatives.
[07:43:37]  You know what?
[07:43:41]  And I somewhat do this to Rage Bay a little bit, but fuck it.
[07:43:43]  Why not?
[07:43:44]  I don't think the man should sacrifice his life for the woman.
[07:43:48]  Makes sense as an atheist.
[07:43:50]  It's like your life.
[07:43:51]  First, second, and third.
[07:43:53]  Oh, you want your husband to die for you?
[07:43:56]  If it comes to that instance, yes.
[07:43:59]  See, that's crazy.
[07:44:01]  Because I feel like asking someone to fucking die for you is a bigger ask than I want her to bow.
[07:44:09]  I want her to fold my laundry.
[07:44:10]  She should be a little submissive.
[07:44:12]  That's easy compared to dying.
[07:44:14]  Yeah, but I mean, we're talking something really hypothetically.
[07:44:17]  But if that comes to that instance, yes, I will.
[07:44:19]  And my husband has told me, you know, he's like, I will die for you.
[07:44:22]  Like, it's something.
[07:44:24]  If you were 300 pounds, would you lose the weight for me?
[07:44:27]  That's beautiful that he loves her that much.
[07:44:29]  No, I mean, I don't think...
[07:44:30]  That's not a loser, though.
[07:44:31]  I feel like that's a high-value.
[07:44:33]  No, that's a high-value man.
[07:44:35]  It's not a loser, but it's an L. For me, that's a high-value man.
[07:44:39]  Again, it's different cultures.
[07:44:41]  I think that's a high-value woman that she would die for me.
[07:44:46]  Well, you see, I mean.
[07:44:48]  She dies for me, so I keep going.
[07:44:50]  I mean, again, I think if it comes to that instance, you know, Daddy, we have to choose between both of us.
[07:44:56]  I mean, I probably also will say, yeah, I can die for my husband, you know, if it comes to that instance, because I'm, again, this is a 50-50.
[07:45:04]  But, I mean, yeah.
[07:45:06]  In marriage, you died for each other, or you died to each other in this realm, basically saying, I'm not going to have my ego anymore.
[07:45:13]  I'm going to be everything that you have.
[07:45:14]  Yeah, that's not what we're talking about, though.
[07:45:15]  Yeah, but then even more so in the physical realm, women do die for their husbands in several contexts.
[07:45:22]  A man doesn't want to protect me.
[07:45:24]  Not with my childbirth, but it's just like in general, it's just there was that, well, it's going to be anecdotal, but there was that one case with George Harrison and his wife where she ended up lunging on the man that was trying to kill him.
[07:45:33]  She bashed him in the head with a lamp and he was like already stabbed on the floor 27 times.
[07:45:37]  Did he die?
[07:45:38]  No, but he almost did.
[07:45:39]  And it actually contributed to his death.
[07:45:41]  Her jumping on him?
[07:45:42]  No, the guy who broke into his house stabbed him 27 times and she attacked him.
[07:45:47]  She lunged on him with the lamp and then basically knocked him out.
[07:45:51]  But he was already on the ground.
[07:45:53]  So there's plenty of cases where women are basically being that way.
[07:45:56]  In fact, I would say that that's average.
[07:45:59]  Yeah, well, there's a couple differences here.
[07:46:01]  First off, So, there's an expectation on men to be willing to, even if I grant that it's really unlikely that for most relationships or marriages, that there's ever going to be some sort of crazy scenario where one or the other person has to die or the man has to be willing to sacrifice himself.
[07:46:18]  A man's unwillingness to do so, like a man who's a coward, a man who wouldn't be willing to sacrifice himself, will be really harshly and negatively assessed by women to the point that I think a lot of women, if they were aware of this, like most men are probably not going to disclose this, even if it's the case.
[07:46:39]  It's a major turnoff for most women.
[07:46:41]  Oh, he's a coward.
[07:46:42]  He's a coward.
[07:46:43]  No, I don't want to date a coward.
[07:46:44]  Like, massive ick for women if the guy is a bitch or a pussy or whatever.
[07:46:50]  Huge, huge, right?
[07:46:51]  So, even and sometimes women will say, Well, I'd be willing to die for him.
[07:46:56]  It's different, though, because there isn't a social expectation on you.
[07:47:00]  There isn't a relation, relational expectation on women to do this.
[07:47:04]  And even if the woman was like, oh my god, if there was a home intruder, I'd just like run and like hide under the bed.
[07:47:11]  Like, the man wouldn't lose attraction for the woman doing that.
[07:47:16]  He wouldn't lose attraction for her.
[07:47:18]  Whereas, like, a man said that, oh, I'm just going to hide under the bed and hope they don't find us.
[07:47:23]  Like, a woman's going to have massive ick.
[07:47:26]  It's probably the end of the relationship.
[07:47:28]  Absolutely.
[07:47:28]  And, like, for example, if you're out with your boyfriend and he loses in a fight or something, very hype.
[07:47:34]  It's not like the circumstances are going to matter in this.
[07:47:39]  A woman's like going to lose attraction for a guy if she sees him get sparked up in the street fight.
[07:47:44]  She's going to lose it.
[07:47:45]  She sees him doing the fencing position.
[07:47:47]  He's fucking knocked out.
[07:47:49]  She's that relationship might as well be.
[07:47:52]  Not necessarily.
[07:47:52]  Let's just say that.
[07:47:54]  There's a time limit on that relationship.
[07:47:57]  Now, if a woman's seen her boyfriend get knocked out, it's over within six months.
[07:48:01]  Not necessarily, because let's just say if he's fighting.
[07:48:03]  Not in all instances, but go ahead.
[07:48:04]  If he's fighting someone, let's just say because this other man disrespected me.
[07:48:08]  He's fighting this other man.
[07:48:09]  Let's just say this other man knocks him out.
[07:48:12]  Yeah, I will consider still my man that he's a really strong man.
[07:48:15]  No, no, no, even though because he's defending me.
[07:48:17]  Yeah, you know, if a man gets knocked out, typically that'll also prompt in some women a nurturing complex where they want to take care of the man who's down and out.
[07:48:24]  Absolutely.
[07:48:26]  Because he was trying to protect me or taking care of me.
[07:48:28]  No, no, that wouldn't be one of the things.
[07:48:30]  I mean, I disagree totally with what you said because for me, it will actually be in that.
[07:48:35]  Get brain damage for your girlfriend.
[07:48:37]  Brian, would you say you met the woman of your dreams?
[07:48:40]  You have seven kids.
[07:48:41]  You're all sleeping in a house.
[07:48:42]  There's an armed robbery that comes on.
[07:48:44]  You grab your gun.
[07:48:44]  Would you go out there and take on those people?
[07:48:47]  So the threat is directed at me.
[07:48:50]  Your family.
[07:48:51]  And my children.
[07:48:52]  So yes, my family in totality.
[07:48:53]  Okay, so you would lay your life down.
[07:48:56]  Well, so I would, but I mean, if I was living alone in the house, I would also take steps to protect myself.
[07:49:03]  So it's like I would do it anyways.
[07:49:07]  But I guess this is more so of a hypothetical scenario.
[07:49:11]  Maybe I should paint it differently.
[07:49:13]  Like, I don't know.
[07:49:14]  If somebody has to take the bullet or whatever, you help the girl in the guest bedroom.
[07:49:19]  Because it is a massive ick.
[07:49:20]  Like, if a guy is shivering under a bed while there's an armed robber and you're letting me like deal with it, that's an ick.
[07:49:26]  Right, it's an ick, but it's like, so I guess ultimately, though, how about this though?
[07:49:30]  In a scenario where somebody has to die, somebody has to die.
[07:49:37]  What the fuck?
[07:49:38]  Dollar maxing?
[07:49:39]  That's funny.
[07:49:40]  So, how about this?
[07:49:43]  There is a boat.
[07:49:44]  You're on a boat with your wife, and there's only one life preserver.
[07:49:49]  And in the scenario, the life preserver is necessary to survive.
[07:49:54]  There's no loopholes.
[07:49:55]  You can't hang on to her.
[07:49:59]  You can't swim indefinitely.
[07:50:02]  Whoever gets the life preserver lives.
[07:50:04]  Whoever doesn't get it dies.
[07:50:06]  No loopholes.
[07:50:08]  Who should get the life preserver?
[07:50:09]  So you're on a boat with just your wife.
[07:50:11]  The woman.
[07:50:12]  The woman.
[07:50:13]  Who should get the life preserver?
[07:50:14]  The woman.
[07:50:16]  Sorry, I kind of zoned out for a second.
[07:50:18]  Is there any children involved in this scenario?
[07:50:20]  No.
[07:50:20]  Just man and the woman.
[07:50:21]  But you're married or boyfriend?
[07:50:23]  I think the man probably has a higher chance of being able to swim in the water and survive.
[07:50:26]  It's granted that in the hypothetical, only one person can survive.
[07:50:31]  There are no loopholes to, well, you'll just tread water for three hours.
[07:50:35]  No.
[07:50:36]  Whoever has a life preserver, there's only one.
[07:50:38]  Only one person can survive.
[07:50:41]  Who gets the life preserver?
[07:50:42]  Am I in this relationship?
[07:50:44]  Yes, it's you and your boyfriend in a boat.
[07:50:47]  Like, okay, the same way I said I would want my man to lay down his life for me, I'd be willing to do it for him.
[07:50:52]  So I would be willing to give it to him.
[07:50:54]  Okay, so you would do it in that scenario.
[07:50:56]  Okay.
[07:50:57]  You said the man should do it.
[07:50:59]  I'd give it.
[07:51:01]  You'd give it to the man.
[07:51:02]  Okay.
[07:51:03]  The woman should take the preserver.
[07:51:05]  Okay.
[07:51:05]  The woman should take.
[07:51:07]  Are we talking about Titanic?
[07:51:08]  Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
[07:51:09]  I'm like, they did in the Titanic.
[07:51:11]  Sort of.
[07:51:12]  Okay.
[07:51:14]  And I have to choose between me and my partner.
[07:51:17]  Yeah, he can have it.
[07:51:18]  Okay, what about you?
[07:51:19]  Yeah, if it's between me and my partner, it'd be easy for, I think, for me to say you can take it.
[07:51:24]  Oh, sorry, you can take it.
[07:51:25]  He can take it.
[07:51:26]  Okay, but if he actually took it, would you be like...
[07:51:28]  Yeah, I'd be like, dang, that's kind of messed up.
[07:51:32]  Either for him, for real.
[07:51:34]  Okay, what about you?
[07:51:36]  The man.
[07:51:36]  Okay, what about you?
[07:51:38]  The woman.
[07:51:38]  Just like it would be an ick if a guy is shivering under a bed when an armed robbery comes in.
[07:51:43]  Angelica, what about you?
[07:51:44]  I'm too codependent.
[07:51:45]  I would have to die with him or he takes it.
[07:51:46]  I can't do it.
[07:51:47]  There's no loopholes.
[07:51:48]  I'm not saying I would die.
[07:51:49]  I would give it to him.
[07:51:50]  Okay.
[07:51:51]  The woman should take it.
[07:51:52]  The woman should take it.
[07:51:53]  But I wanted to ask you, so you disagree, right?
[07:51:56]  Wait, oh, the woman should take the life.
[07:51:58]  Yeah, yeah, that you wouldn't die for your wife, right?
[07:52:00]  No.
[07:52:01]  Would you die for your daughter?
[07:52:03]  Oh, how heartbeat.
[07:52:05]  Yeah.
[07:52:08]  Let me wait.
[07:52:09]  This is crazy.
[07:52:11]  So you're having to impregnate a woman seven times.
[07:52:14]  I say that everyone should be watching.
[07:52:16]  I would make her throw her out on a boat.
[07:52:19]  I mean, what inside of you?
[07:52:19]  So, okay, so in a situation where it's my daughter, three-year-old daughter, look at her.
[07:52:24]  She's so fucked up.
[07:52:27]  You cannot go on that life very quickly.
[07:52:28]  But woman will.
[07:52:29]  I think who would be in the middle of the ocean?
[07:52:32]  Well, so, so hold on.
[07:52:34]  It's like.
[07:52:35]  When you become a parent, I would do anything for my children, almost anything.
[07:52:41]  I would not die, though.
[07:52:43]  I would do anything.
[07:52:44]  You're taking another feminist.
[07:52:46]  Drowning kind of sucks.
[07:52:47]  She's just drowning.
[07:52:48]  So you want the woman who you've impregnated seven times to get off the boat to defend Brian.
[07:52:53]  Hold on, hold on.
[07:52:54]  Let me just not like that.
[07:52:55]  Hold on.
[07:52:56]  Yeah, no one's going to be DMing you 10 times a day, Brian.
[07:53:00]  Maybe I'm rage baiting on that.
[07:53:01]  All right, you hate your daughter.
[07:53:03]  Give me seven kids.
[07:53:04]  Get out of this boat right now.
[07:53:06]  No one, no, walk in the middle of the house.
[07:53:07]  But if it's all of your kids, then yes.
[07:53:09]  Because you said you would go out and attack the robber outside of your house.
[07:53:13]  Yeah, of course.
[07:53:14]  It's not like I would just kind of like I would take as many steps as I could to like to protect two opportunities.
[07:53:20]  You would like outaim the man.
[07:53:22]  That's a duty as a man.
[07:53:23]  Sorry, it is.
[07:53:24]  You are stronger than us physically, mentally, just like that.
[07:53:28]  Wait, how about this really quick?
[07:53:29]  How about really quick?
[07:53:30]  But I will give some explanation.
[07:53:33]  Now, it's not you and your boyfriend on a boat.
[07:53:36]  It's another couple.
[07:53:37]  And you somehow, you can't do anything to intervene.
[07:53:40]  You're not able to help them.
[07:53:41]  But you're witnessing it.
[07:53:44]  Who would you judge more harshly?
[07:53:47]  Assuming, like, assuming they're deciding this, I don't know if they're deciding it democratically.
[07:53:53]  Obviously, the man through force could like fucking take the life preserver and be like, fuck you.
[07:54:00]  But let's say the who would you judge more harshly for picking themselves to survive?
[07:54:06]  The man or the woman?
[07:54:07]  The men.
[07:54:08]  The man.
[07:54:10]  Okay, I need to see who would be able to take better care of the kids.
[07:54:13]  There's no kids.
[07:54:15]  There's no kids.
[07:54:16]  Who would you judge more harshly for choosing to pick up the life personality?
[07:54:20]  I would say the man because the fact that he's physically stronger adds like an undercurrent to that.
[07:54:25]  But both of them are, one of them dies no matter what.
[07:54:29]  So just because he's stronger doesn't mean he's like can swim long, like he's dead.
[07:54:33]  The stronger person choosing themselves over the weaker person just has a worse look.
[07:54:37]  It just has a worse look.
[07:54:38]  Yeah.
[07:54:38]  It's giving beta a little bit.
[07:54:41]  A little bit.
[07:54:41]  It really is.
[07:54:42]  You're going to shiver.
[07:54:43]  You're going to like roll away from the woman that gave you you judge the man harsher.
[07:54:49]  I would judge the man.
[07:54:50]  Judge the man harsher.
[07:54:51]  The man.
[07:54:51]  The man harsher.
[07:54:51]  The man.
[07:54:52]  The man.
[07:54:53]  Titanic really makes me upset.
[07:54:56]  That's why the man.
[07:54:58]  You judge it harsher.
[07:54:59]  The man.
[07:55:00]  I actually don't know.
[07:55:01]  I don't know.
[07:55:02]  Probably the man.
[07:55:03]  I don't know.
[07:55:03]  Riley, what about you?
[07:55:04]  Who do you judge harsher?
[07:55:05]  The boy.
[07:55:06]  Because that's not a man.
[07:55:08]  Thank you for that.
[07:55:09]  Now, you mentioned it's beta.
[07:55:10]  Beta.
[07:55:12]  Who do you judge harsher?
[07:55:13]  I'm just thinking about some guy shivering away on a boat while you're just leaving your woman up.
[07:55:18]  Like, just like, get out of here.
[07:55:20]  And you want me to go do the laundry?
[07:55:22]  No.
[07:55:23]  Hello.
[07:55:23]  I'd love to.
[07:55:23]  I'd like to live.
[07:55:25]  I didn't answer the question.
[07:55:26]  I gave you 7K.
[07:55:27]  I got to, and you're going to roll away in a boat for me.
[07:55:29]  Yeah, you never answer the question about it.
[07:55:32]  The DMs are going to stop.
[07:55:33]  Okay.
[07:55:34]  So you say it's beta for the man to do this.
[07:55:38]  I actually think, by the way, I think the alpha beta thing's fucking lame.
[07:55:41]  Any guy who calls himself alpha, it's super lame.
[07:55:44]  It's cringe.
[07:55:44]  Never call yourself an alpha male.
[07:55:46]  That's super lame.
[07:55:47]  But using that metric, alpha, beta, beta, male, alpha male, I actually think it's more alpha for the man to survive.
[07:55:57]  And I'll tell you why.
[07:55:58]  Genghis Khan, the Mongolian conqueror, who, by the way, Genghis Khan, the Mongolian king or emperor or whatever, I don't know what the exact terminology was for his title, who had the largest, and to this day, the largest contiguous land empire in all of human history, who just wantonly killed swaths, millions of people.

=== Genghis Khan Virtue (15:25) ===

[07:56:28]  He had dozens of concubines.
[07:56:31]  He had many, multiple wives.
[07:56:33]  Was it consensual?
[07:56:34]  Hold on.
[07:56:35]  No.
[07:56:35]  That's irrelevant.
[07:56:37]  Objection, relevance.
[07:56:41]  Objection sustains.
[07:56:43]  That's the one word.
[07:56:44]  Okay, whatever.
[07:56:45]  Do you think Genghis Khan would sacrifice his life for one of his many wives?
[07:56:52]  No.
[07:56:53]  He's like, oh, you think I'm going to die for one of my wives?
[07:56:59]  Is he someone to look up to as a man?
[07:57:01]  Wives.
[07:57:02]  Mongolian wives.
[07:57:03]  Yes, he had multiple, he had dozens of wives.
[07:57:06]  He had concubines.
[07:57:07]  Do you think that's morally right, though?
[07:57:09]  That's secondary.
[07:57:10]  Objection, relevance.
[07:57:12]  So my point here is, but we're not assessing moral virtue here.
[07:57:20]  You would agree with me that someone can be an alpha male and a moral, right?
[07:57:24]  So if we're assessing alpha-ness over there, I think we'd have to say that Genghis Khan was certainly an alpha male, being the ruler of the largest contiguous land empire to have ever existed, killing many, many, multiple people.
[07:57:43]  I'm not suggesting he's a moral man.
[07:57:45]  I am suggesting that he is an alpha male.
[07:57:49]  Didn't we say in the beginning of this, we talked about war, how men are stronger at war, how women should not be in war, and women should not be on the front line, et cetera, et cetera.
[07:57:59]  Did we say that?
[07:58:00]  So, what would be the difference?
[07:58:01]  Men are stronger.
[07:58:01]  Rejection relevance.
[07:58:03]  Men are stronger.
[07:58:04]  Okay, we know this.
[07:58:05]  Well, who's why would we having a conversation?
[07:58:07]  You said it's beta for the man to be to want to survive.
[07:58:11]  And I would present you a historical example.
[07:58:16]  I argue when it comes to Genghis Khan, like, yeah, he did all of that, and the Mongolians are waiting for a second coming, literally.
[07:58:22]  But between Genghis Khan and the man who conquered death, which one was more alpha and who behaved in a more moral fashion?
[07:58:30]  Jesus Christ.
[07:58:31]  Literally, like, he literally conquered death, conquered the world.
[07:58:34]  I wasn't talking about moral.
[07:58:36]  I'm talking about alpha.
[07:58:38]  I'm talking about alpha.
[07:58:39]  Historically, I have died and the Omega.
[07:58:42]  Like, literally, like, disseminating your seed is not the strongest thing a man can do.
[07:58:47]  Dying for your sins, dying for those who don't deserve it, is actually the most alpha male thing you could do, according to the alpha and the older.
[07:58:53]  Now, Brian, what do you define as alpha, though?
[07:58:56]  Is it what Genghis Khan was?
[07:58:57]  Like, what's your definition of alpha?
[07:58:59]  He's like, making a woman go for a family.
[07:59:00]  Making a woman bow for him.
[07:59:02]  I think if you call yourself an alpha, you're a beta.
[07:59:05]  Yeah.
[07:59:05]  Yeah, no, it's super cringe.
[07:59:06]  Yeah.
[07:59:07]  It is super cringe, but look, ultimately, this idea that you're a beta male for trembling away and throwing a woman off.
[07:59:14]  Yeah, when you're the second race, technically, like I think it would be more alpha.
[07:59:19]  If here's your perspective, move Genghis Khan aside.
[07:59:22]  I think the more out again, it's super cringe to use this terminology.
[07:59:26]  The more alpha thing would be, oh, okay, I have to choose between me dying or my wife dying.
[07:59:33]  Well, I could get another wife and I could have 20 more children with more women.
[07:59:40]  Versus, oh my God, like check this out.
[07:59:42]  In modern day, for most dudes, for most dudes who'd be willing to die for their girlfriend, she's going to be on another dude's dick within three months.
[07:59:51]  So I got to give my life for a woman who's going to be on Tinder two weeks after the fortnight.
[07:59:57]  A fortnight after the fucking huge waiting flavia.
[08:00:03]  That shit.
[08:00:03]  Fuck that shit.
[08:00:04]  I ain't dying for some chick who's going to have another man, another man's cock balls deep in her within three months of Brian.
[08:00:12]  Death, you just said that.
[08:00:13]  Fuck that shit.
[08:00:14]  You just said she can fucking die.
[08:00:15]  I get to live.
[08:00:16]  I can impregnate another woman.
[08:00:18]  Yeah, Brian.
[08:00:19]  You just said that you would go for another woman right after that.
[08:00:22]  Yeah, it's the same thing.
[08:00:23]  Yeah, fuck it.
[08:00:24]  You can't do it.
[08:00:27]  Yeah, sure.
[08:00:29]  Why do men go to war?
[08:00:31]  Why has only men gone to war?
[08:00:34]  Protect women, which is why women being in the military is counterintuitive.
[08:00:37]  Women are not deserving of being protected any longer.
[08:00:40]  But what about your daughter?
[08:00:41]  And you don't deserve it.
[08:00:42]  What about your daughter deserving that?
[08:00:43]  You women don't deserve it.
[08:00:45]  What about your daughter?
[08:00:46]  Would you assert alpha status?
[08:00:47]  Or women are daughter.
[08:00:48]  Okay, I gotta die for a woman.
[08:00:49]  How many of y'all are virgins?
[08:00:51]  Fuck that shit.
[08:00:52]  None of you deserve it.
[08:00:54]  You don't deserve it.
[08:00:55]  None of you are virgins.
[08:00:56]  Get the fuck out of here.
[08:00:58]  I gotta fucking die for y'all.
[08:01:00]  You're not a virgin.
[08:01:00]  But none of you.
[08:01:01]  It doesn't matter.
[08:01:02]  But none of you are fucking virgins.
[08:01:04]  Fuck that shit.
[08:01:07]  Us men are getting a rough fucking deal.
[08:01:09]  We gotta die for y'all, but you can have fucked 20 men before me.
[08:01:14]  Get the fuck out of here.
[08:01:16]  You think I'm gonna fucking die for some woman?
[08:01:19]  You suck the guy's dick three months ago?
[08:01:21]  Get the fuck out of here.
[08:01:22]  And I'm supposed to want to fuck him for a guy.
[08:01:25]  That's fucking molstered.
[08:01:27]  Holy fuck.
[08:01:29]  I gotta die for a fucking non-virgin.
[08:01:33]  Get the fuck out of here.
[08:01:34]  What do you die for?
[08:01:35]  You're missing a man body.
[08:01:37]  Would you die for a righteous virgin wife?
[08:01:39]  Would you die for a daughter?
[08:01:42]  It didn't matter anyway.
[08:01:44]  And so that's what I asked.
[08:01:45]  Wait a minute.
[08:01:46]  Would you die for your own daughters?
[08:01:47]  Would you die for 72 virgins in heaven?
[08:01:49]  Would you expect a man to die?
[08:01:51]  Would you expect the man that your daughter married to die for her?
[08:01:54]  Is the question.
[08:01:56]  Would you expect the man your daughter married to die for her?
[08:02:01]  She's my blood, so yes.
[08:02:02]  Yeah, he's gonna say somebody else should die too.
[08:02:05]  I have to say, but you wouldn't die for your money.
[08:02:08]  Would you die for you if his daughter was a virgin?
[08:02:10]  By the way, who would not want their daughter to marry a man more virtuous than you?
[08:02:16]  How is he virtuous if he's watching?
[08:02:18]  You can recognize that you have a lack of virtue, then.
[08:02:21]  Of course.
[08:02:22]  But I'm honest about it.
[08:02:24]  You are missing skinny jeans and managing.
[08:02:26]  At least I'm honest.
[08:02:27]  At least I'm honest.
[08:02:28]  I'll tell you this much.
[08:02:29]  All these guys who are like, for example, Andrew Tate has said, by the way, I don't have beef with Andrew Tate.
[08:02:33]  But Andrew Tate has said, my duty as a man, if there's, I got to protect, I'm willing to die for a woman.
[08:02:41]  And look, I don't have beef with Andrew Tate.
[08:02:43]  And this is some things I agree with him, some things I disagree.
[08:02:47]  I don't believe for a second that Andrew Tate, who by the way, has like multiple baby mamas and he's like Muslim, so he's got multiple girlfriends or whatever.
[08:02:57]  I don't think he even marries them.
[08:02:59]  I don't think for a second he would sacrifice his life for any of his women.
[08:03:03]  Well, actually, he wouldn't seriously.
[08:03:04]  So men say it, not as a matter of fact.
[08:03:07]  I agree.
[08:03:07]  I agree.
[08:03:08]  Men say this shit.
[08:03:09]  Men say this shit as a virtue signal.
[08:03:11]  Yeah.
[08:03:11]  Of course, babe.
[08:03:13]  I would sacrifice my life for you, blah, blah, blah.
[08:03:16]  Is this the equivalent of women faking an orgasm?
[08:03:18]  Well, actually, on a serious note, what Brian just said actually made me kind of think about it.
[08:03:23]  I'm like, if a man wants their daughter to be with someone more virtuous than themselves and they want to marry someone who's more virtuous than themselves, ultimately what they're saying is they want control in their life where they're the ones who are holding all the cards and the experience so that way they can predict the outcome, basically.
[08:03:37]  Because if even virtue applies to the man proposing to his daughter is a factor, then it's no longer a sex-based difference.
[08:03:43]  Well, let me also explain this.
[08:03:45]  As far as me wanting my daughter to marry the most virtuous man possible.
[08:03:50]  For example, I'm far from being a virgin.
[08:03:54]  I did not wait until marriage.
[08:03:55]  What I would like for my daughter, whether it happens or not, would be she's a virgin and she gets married to a male virgin who has been chased and they stay together forever and they have a bunch of kids and she gets married in her early 20s or something.
[08:04:13]  That would be a more virtuous path for her, one that I have not followed.
[08:04:17]  I can't actually think of why that would be objectionable just because I haven't lived that path that I wouldn't want a better path for my daughter.
[08:04:26]  It's not objectionable.
[08:04:27]  It's just an observation.
[08:04:28]  But that's exactly what everyone wants if they're sensible and care about their children.
[08:04:32]  Fashizzle.
[08:04:33]  Okay.
[08:04:34]  Past should not matter, to which Griselda, you agree.
[08:04:40]  Ali, Ali, Muhammad Ali.
[08:04:45]  Ali.
[08:04:45]  Hey, stay here for a sec, just for this one.
[08:04:48]  Okay.
[08:04:49]  Lisi, you were like.
[08:04:53]  Okay, we have Hannah or Frankie, Passion Not Matter.
[08:04:59]  And then Joy, no.
[08:05:03]  Anna, Passion.
[08:05:05]  Excuse me.
[08:05:06]  Anna, Passion Not Matter.
[08:05:08]  Okay, why should Passion Not Matter?
[08:05:11]  Body count.
[08:05:12]  Why is that?
[08:05:13]  I don't think it should matter.
[08:05:15]  I mean, it wasn't on his time.
[08:05:16]  Why should it matter?
[08:05:17]  I mean, we have a saying in Mexico.
[08:05:19]  If it didn't happen on your time, why should it affect you?
[08:05:21]  I mean, okay, anybody else who said passion not matter?
[08:05:24]  Why is that?
[08:05:26]  I mean, I just don't believe it.
[08:05:28]  Just because, like, if he can do it, why can't?
[08:05:31]  I mean, I haven't done anything bad, obviously.
[08:05:32]  I haven't, I've been not bad for you.
[08:05:34]  You have been OnlyFans while you're married?
[08:05:37]  Okay.
[08:05:37]  Yes, it's with him, though.
[08:05:39]  So.
[08:05:40]  Okay, what about anybody else?
[08:05:41]  Passion not matter?
[08:05:42]  Did anybody?
[08:05:43]  I feel like it shouldn't matter because like whatever he did before he was with me is not going to affect what we were doing in our life.
[08:05:49]  Just a show of hands.
[08:05:49]  Who circled Passion Not Matter?
[08:05:51]  Can I see that?
[08:05:52]  Passion Not Matter, Passion Not Matter, Passion Not Matter.
[08:05:55]  Okay.
[08:05:55]  So, like, a guy, and it does say in parentheses, body count.
[08:06:00]  Should a woman's body count past not matter, right?
[08:06:05]  Um, let me ask you guys a question.
[08:06:08]  To those of you who say past shouldn't matter, if you found out, you knew that your guy used to get fucked by men, but he's bisexual, or let's say he might have, he's turned a new leaf.
[08:06:24]  Now he's straight, but he used to get fucked by men, or he's bisexual, whichever one you fancy most.
[08:06:32]  You wouldn't, not an issue.
[08:06:34]  You'd this is a different twist.
[08:06:36]  It's not different, it's totally the same.
[08:06:38]  It's literally women fucked men before me, but it's your man fucked men before you.
[08:06:43]  It's literally the man have sex before.
[08:06:45]  That's right.
[08:06:45]  That's why they say the girls and the gays is because the girls are usually whores, and it's like it's literally the equivalent.
[08:06:50]  It's like the same energy.
[08:06:52]  So, but I don't know.
[08:06:56]  I really, I don't think it will matter, you know, because I mean, if he's not judging me by my past, I would judge him.
[08:07:02]  I mean, again, I wouldn't think if your husband told you I need to tell you something.
[08:07:10]  I mean, he can tell me late in the relationship.
[08:07:12]  Like, let's just say, I've been married for him for a while.
[08:07:15]  Oh, yeah, I guess you might not leave him now.
[08:07:16]  Although some women might leave.
[08:07:18]  I mean, Shona, would you, what about you?
[08:07:20]  Oh, I'd leave.
[08:07:21]  And I also said past does matter.
[08:07:23]  Oh, you did?
[08:07:24]  Okay, past doesn't matter.
[08:07:24]  Okay, okay.
[08:07:25]  That's good.
[08:07:26]  So your husband's like, listen, my butthole, there's been a lot of dicks.
[08:07:32]  And whoa, that's somebody's going to clip that.
[08:07:34]  Fuck.
[08:07:36]  Yikes.
[08:07:38]  Fuck.
[08:07:40]  Right.
[08:07:41]  Very excited.
[08:07:41]  New button.
[08:07:43]  So somebody's going to fucking just start it right there without the context.
[08:07:47]  Lovely.
[08:07:48]  Lovely.
[08:07:51]  So, okay.
[08:07:51]  Your husband, he received a lot of dickage through his anus.
[08:08:00]  Are you going to be okay with that?
[08:08:03]  I mean, probably since we've been together for, you know, we've been married for 10 years.
[08:08:09]  I think it will matter at this point if he never disclosed it before because that's a trust issue.
[08:08:15]  Have you disclosed like all the penis that's been inside you?
[08:08:18]  No.
[08:08:18]  But I mean, but that's different because I mean, how's it different?
[08:08:23]  I'm not attracted to gay men.
[08:08:24]  That's why I'm not.
[08:08:25]  Exactly.
[08:08:25]  I'm not attracted.
[08:08:26]  No, he's bi.
[08:08:27]  I'm not.
[08:08:28]  That's gay.
[08:08:28]  Okay, then.
[08:08:29]  Sorry.
[08:08:30]  I don't think it would matter.
[08:08:31]  It also would matter if he had like an STD.
[08:08:33]  One of those TV.
[08:08:35]  No, your vagina will never please a gay man.
[08:08:37]  Well, no.
[08:08:37]  Once again, culturally speaking, usually Mexicans never get into those details.
[08:08:41]  They don't like going into the past, especially the men.
[08:08:43]  They don't like talking about that stuff.
[08:08:44]  Is your husband Mexican, though?
[08:08:46]  He's Mexican.
[08:08:48]  He's white.
[08:08:48]  He's white.
[08:08:49]  No, he's white as hell.
[08:08:50]  What about you?
[08:08:51]  Your husband, you're married, right?
[08:08:53]  He comes to you and he's like, yo, I used to get fucked by dudes.
[08:08:58]  Ah, damn it.
[08:08:59]  Fuck.
[08:09:03]  I mean, I guess that I would care a little.
[08:09:07]  Okay.
[08:09:08]  Who else?
[08:09:09]  Hannah, would you date a man who got fucked by men?
[08:09:14]  What if he was the top?
[08:09:15]  He fucked the men.
[08:09:17]  He fucked them.
[08:09:18]  Why could that change text?
[08:09:20]  It actually would change.
[08:09:23]  I gotta be honest.
[08:09:24]  I think it's worse if he's a bottom.
[08:09:26]  I think it is.
[08:09:27]  It's getting slutted.
[08:09:28]  I know you either went through.
[08:09:31]  Your dick is getting pressured by some dude's asshole.
[08:09:33]  And you're saying that's the same thing.
[08:09:34]  That's like gross.
[08:09:35]  It's degenerate, but it's different.
[08:09:36]  It's so different.
[08:09:37]  It's like, at least in that land, I can't, I don't know.
[08:09:39]  Anyways, body count.
[08:09:41]  What's your body count?
[08:09:44]  One?
[08:09:45]  You were saying you were a virgin earlier.
[08:09:47]  You were a virgin.
[08:09:47]  No, I wasn't going to say that.
[08:09:48]  I was trying to make a point about something.
[08:09:49]  I was just trying to ask him.
[08:09:50]  Oh, bro.
[08:09:51]  So what's your body count?
[08:09:53]  One.
[08:09:53]  Okay.
[08:09:54]  12.
[08:09:55]  Okay.
[08:09:55]  Three.
[08:09:57]  Sorry.
[08:09:58]  Three.
[08:09:59]  Okay.
[08:10:00]  Nine.
[08:10:00]  Nine.
[08:10:01]  Okay.
[08:10:02]  Nine from when I was a degenerate teenager.
[08:10:05]  Okay.
[08:10:05]  I'm engaged just him.
[08:10:08]  I can't disclose.
[08:10:09]  Oh, well, okay.
[08:10:11]  Hold on.
[08:10:11]  Well, don't lie.
[08:10:12]  So out of respect for him, I can't.
[08:10:14]  Wait, can you into the mic then?
[08:10:15]  Oh, sorry.
[08:10:16]  Out of respect for him, I don't want to.
[08:10:18]  It's more than one then.
[08:10:19]  Okay, what about you?
[08:10:20]  Three.
[08:10:21]  Really?
[08:10:22]  What?
[08:10:23]  Wait, can just because she's black?
[08:10:26]  Why don't you believe me?
[08:10:27]  No.
[08:10:28]  Okay.
[08:10:28]  It's because she's a woman.
[08:10:32]  All right, go ahead.
[08:10:33]  She said three.
[08:10:34]  Yeah, no.
[08:10:35]  I'm not going to give my body count.
[08:10:37]  Range?
[08:10:37]  Do you want to do a range?
[08:10:38]  No.
[08:10:39]  Do you want to do a range?
[08:10:40]  It's low.
[08:10:41]  More than 10?
[08:10:42]  Less than 10?
[08:10:43]  Less than 10.
[08:10:44]  Into the mic.
[08:10:45]  I'm sorry, less than 10.
[08:10:47]  Did you, what did you say?
[08:10:49]  Three.
[08:10:50]  Three.
[08:10:51]  Yeah, you quoted.
[08:10:51]  A guy in high school, my baby father, and my current boyfriend.
[08:10:55]  Why are you so suspicious?
[08:10:59]  Actually, wait, I'll do this at the end.
[08:11:01]  Range?
[08:11:03]  Less.
[08:11:04]  Can you?
[08:11:05]  I'm not doing body count.
[08:11:06]  More than 10 or less than 10?
[08:11:08]  No, I'm not doing body count, period.
[08:11:10]  Whether it's 2 or 22.
[08:11:11]  People are going to infer certain things from that, but okay, what about you?
[08:11:14]  Body count?
[08:11:16]  Seven.
[08:11:17]  Seven, okay.
[08:11:18]  I'm going to go with Hannah.
[08:11:19]  I'm not going to disclose.
[08:11:20]  Is it over.
[08:11:22]  I'm not disclosing anything.
[08:11:23]  I've disclosed enough of my sex life and my one-night stand baby, okay?
[08:11:27]  Thank you.
[08:11:29]  That I did not want to explain.
[08:11:30]  More or less than 50.
[08:11:31]  Do you want to ballpark it?
[08:11:33]  Nope.
[08:11:33]  Ballpark?
[08:11:34]  Is that less than 50?
[08:11:36]  Single question.
[08:11:37]  I'm not going to disclose anything.
[08:11:38]  No, boy.
[08:11:38]  Single question.
[08:11:39]  Okay.
[08:11:40]  You can oh boy all you want.
[08:11:41]  You just said the same thing.
[08:11:43]  Okay, that's fine.
[08:11:45]  Before I give my answer, don't we have a second champagne bottle that we're supposed to open?
[08:11:50]  No, I did both.
[08:11:50]  We already, but there were three $1,000 payments.

=== High Body Count Vibes (08:28) ===

[08:11:53]  Yep.
[08:11:53]  Those of you girls don't have the same thing.
[08:11:55]  I did a gigantic cup that we had.
[08:11:57]  I did one pop, and then I did two pops back to back.
[08:12:00]  So I did three.
[08:12:00]  I popped three.
[08:12:02]  Six.
[08:12:03]  Six.
[08:12:04]  Okay.
[08:12:05]  Three.
[08:12:06]  Three.
[08:12:07]  You slut.
[08:12:08]  Liar.
[08:12:09]  You slut.
[08:12:10]  You.
[08:12:10]  I know.
[08:12:11]  Strumpet.
[08:12:13]  Just kidding.
[08:12:14]  Just kidding.
[08:12:16]  I'm a virgin.
[08:12:19]  I've never felt discounted.
[08:12:20]  What is your body count?
[08:12:21]  I've never felt the warm embrace.
[08:12:22]  Wait, actually, yeah.
[08:12:24]  I don't disclose.
[08:12:25]  More or less has said, Brian.
[08:12:26]  I've never answered that question more than 20.
[08:12:28]  What's the purpose?
[08:12:32]  What is considered a high body count?
[08:12:34]  Just to know the body count, you know?
[08:12:36]  What is considered a high bound count?
[08:12:37]  Who keeps track of that, anyways?
[08:12:38]  That's an ever-changing question.
[08:12:40]  I also wonder the same way.
[08:12:41]  What's the question?
[08:12:42]  What is considered a high body count to you?
[08:12:45]  To me?
[08:12:46]  Oh, to me?
[08:12:48]  So it's a bit nuanced because it depends on the age.
[08:12:54]  So like a woman who's 20 versus a woman who's 30, there's going to be some leeway there a little bit.
[08:13:00]  But like just across the board, I'd say like just as an easy metric.
[08:13:05]  One.
[08:13:07]  As an easy metric for some people are going to say it might be a bit lower than this, but I think like just for simplicity's sake, I'll say over 10.
[08:13:16]  That's a very easy cutoff for me to say.
[08:13:18]  That's when you're getting label it as high, but it's above a desirable number.
[08:13:33]  Like when I think high, I think like 20, 30 plus.
[08:13:37]  Around 10 is a bit of a wobbler.
[08:13:39]  You could charge it as a felony or misdemeanor.
[08:13:42]  Does it matter whether those bodies happened within relationships or outside of a relationship?
[08:13:48]  I like that you asked this question because it's more than just The body count.
[08:13:55]  There's a bot I haven't quite figured out the right term for it.
[08:13:59]  There's a body count multiplier.
[08:14:01]  For example, for example, a woman who's slept with one man one time, but that man is someone who's just fucking filthy.
[08:14:17]  Her body count's not one.
[08:14:19]  Her body count's like 10.
[08:14:21]  So for example, a woman who fucked.
[08:14:23]  An Indian.
[08:14:24]  Oh, bro, that's crazy.
[08:14:26]  It's a joke, though.
[08:14:27]  He's joking.
[08:14:28]  Do you want to?
[08:14:29]  What would the multiplier be, though?
[08:14:31]  No, no, not it's not a racial thing.
[08:14:33]  Okay.
[08:14:34]  I would say it's a little bit different.
[08:14:35]  But you did mention filthiness, so I'm like, oh, bro.
[08:14:38]  I assume it's out of here.
[08:14:40]  Literally, I love Indian people.
[08:14:41]  Hold on.
[08:14:42]  So, okay, disavow that.
[08:14:44]  But so I would say it's like if he's like a rapper or some shit, or like, I don't know, some of these rappers are just known for just running through chicks.
[08:14:53]  Like, if a girl, let's say a girl fucked, like, I don't know, some, some, the boy next door, and he's, he was, she was a virgin, he was a virgin, whatever.
[08:15:04]  That's different than if a girl fucked NLE Chapa.
[08:15:08]  Like, if a girl fucked NLE, or like the island boys, or whatever the fuck those weirdos are.
[08:15:13]  If a girl fucked an island boy, that's like 20 bodies.
[08:15:17]  This is boy math.
[08:15:19]  This is boy math right now.
[08:15:21]  If a girl fucked, hmm, who's a, it could also just be a guy you don't like too.
[08:15:27]  Yeah.
[08:15:27]  If a girl fucked.
[08:15:29]  You don't believe that people can change?
[08:15:30]  Like maybe they've had a past and then they said, you know what, this is wrong.
[08:15:34]  And then they go on long standings of sabbaticals and, you know, like I mean, that's what I did.
[08:15:41]  I disavow like all the bodies I racked up as a teenager.
[08:15:45]  Yeah, yeah.
[08:15:46]  But just to finish this point, just to answer your question, like if a girl, if a girl fucked a guy with a bunch of face tattoos, that's not one body.
[08:15:59]  What if that's a problem?
[08:15:59]  That's a couple.
[08:16:00]  That's 13.
[08:16:02]  If he was a virgin with face tattoos, it's not a bad thing.
[08:16:04]  I'm sorry.
[08:16:04]  There's no long-term relationship.
[08:16:07]  I'm sorry.
[08:16:07]  I feel like there's no male in human history who's a virgin who has a face.
[08:16:11]  I mean, logically, it's possible, but there's no male with a face tattoo who's a virgin.
[08:16:18]  Highly unlikely.
[08:16:19]  It's possible, but it's like...
[08:16:22]  We need someone in the chat to chime in.
[08:16:23]  Is anyone a virgin with a face tattoo in the chat?
[08:16:26]  We need some confirmation.
[08:16:27]  Like, for example, some girl DM'd me asking me to rate her the other day or something.
[08:16:34]  And she's like, she has breast implants and she said she was a virgin.
[08:16:38]  And I'm like, it's possible.
[08:16:41]  Like, obviously it's possible.
[08:16:43]  Like, a woman's a virgin.
[08:16:44]  She gets breast implants.
[08:16:45]  It's possible.
[08:16:46]  But I'm like, this is really unlikely.
[08:16:50]  Like, really unlikely.
[08:16:51]  You know, does that make sense?
[08:16:53]  Yeah, so your answer is just assuming that if you're not in a relationship with that person, that that person has probably ran through a bunch of people.
[08:17:00]  Yeah, I didn't even answer your question, come to think of it.
[08:17:02]  What was your question again?
[08:17:05]  When it comes to the high body count, does it matter if those bodies were when you were in a relationship with those bodies or not?
[08:17:12]  That is a good question.
[08:17:13]  I actually wonder if the high body count question per man is the same thing as rate your looks question per woman, where it's like they can't have an objective answer to it because it really is about vibes.
[08:17:23]  Same thing with women.
[08:17:24]  It's all about vibes.
[08:17:26]  Vibes.
[08:17:27]  So I don't know, because sometimes I think about this, like on one hand, it's good for a woman to be relationship-minded.
[08:17:35]  But then I was thinking about, and so I don't know if I actually have like a concrete answer to that.
[08:17:39]  I suppose it's nuanced, but I was thinking about this.
[08:17:41]  For example, say a woman has a body count of one, but she only had sex with a guy one time, versus she has a body count of one, but she was dating that guy for three years and got fucked a thousand times.
[08:17:57]  So it was a one-night stand versus a relationship.
[08:18:01]  I think the second option's better.
[08:18:05]  You know what?
[08:18:05]  I kind of almost prefer the one-night stands.
[08:18:08]  What if we raise our number to 20?
[08:18:11]  Like, I know it sounds counterintuitive, but it's like she got fucked less.
[08:18:18]  That's a feminist argument.
[08:18:19]  That's what girls say when they say, like, oh, well, you know, I've had sex with, you know, I'm not going to get clipped out.
[08:18:24]  I know.
[08:18:24]  When they hypothetically say I've had, like, they've had sex with like 300 men.
[08:18:28]  And they're like, well, what's the difference between that and having sex with one person 300 times?
[08:18:33]  Well, so your body count is one, even if you, like, you had a boyfriend and you slept together a thousand times versus you had a one night, like your body count is still one.
[08:18:43]  But like from my male perspective, now if it was a strain, it's still hard.
[08:18:50]  Like, okay, she's had 10 boyfriends and she slept with all of them 100 times or whatever.
[08:18:56]  And then she had 10 one-night stands.
[08:18:58]  That is a bit more indicative, like to have 10 one-night stands.
[08:19:01]  That's more indicative, like of ongoing behavior on the woman's part.
[08:19:06]  She's still only fucked 10 times, though.
[08:19:09]  So, but it makes it like you'll just be a one-year-old.
[08:19:13]  Versus like a girl who has a body count of one and she had a one-night stand.
[08:19:16]  Like, it might have just even been like she wanted something with the guy, but the guy hit it and quit it.
[08:19:22]  A 10 boyfriend is also indicative of a behavior, though.
[08:19:26]  If you can't keep a boyfriend, that's yeah, that's how old you are.
[08:19:30]  I'm 41, so, and I've been dating since a teenager.
[08:19:33]  Yeah, but let's say this person's 28 and you've had 10 boyfriends.
[08:19:37]  They've had one per year.
[08:19:40]  Even if you had one per year, that's still a really short amount of time.
[08:19:45]  Maybe I could frame it like this.
[08:19:46]  Okay, anything below three body count, for the woman to just have had like one sex with these three guys one time each, that's preferable.
[08:19:57]  Then when it gets over, like, this is total boy math, over four, then maybe the relationship girl might be preferable.
[08:20:04]  And then when they're both 10, it's just they're both bad.
[08:20:08]  They're both bad.
[08:20:10]  Throw them away.
[08:20:11]  No, don't throw them away.
[08:20:12]  Zach Alipanek is like, he's just mad with my mother.
[08:20:15]  Brian Atlas kind of has like the high social class, right?
[08:20:18]  So he should be able to get like that top 1%.
[08:20:20]  I mean, he has room to be picky.

=== Emotional Support Hookups (15:06) ===

[08:20:22]  Yeah, exactly.
[08:20:23]  Yeah.
[08:20:24]  I mean, not really.
[08:20:25]  I'm like a chubby old dude.
[08:20:27]  I can't be that picky.
[08:20:28]  And you have a wife application because you don't have enough time for all the women in your DMs.
[08:20:32]  Yeah, what's the acceptance rate?
[08:20:33]  Because your status, yeah.
[08:20:34]  I don't know.
[08:20:34]  After the, I would throw my wife out of the boat.
[08:20:37]  I don't know if he's going to be getting too many DMs after that.
[08:20:41]  Wait a minute.
[08:20:42]  Wait a minute.
[08:20:43]  There's a lot of women who, especially liberal women, where they'll send like those Tumblr personality quizzes and like those MPTI tests.
[08:20:49]  That's cool.
[08:20:49]  That's basically what Brian is doing with the personality test.
[08:20:52]  It's just the male version of it.
[08:20:54]  I mean, earlier I didn't even disavow his whole personality test, but like...
[08:20:56]  She's fine with the girlfriend's application.
[08:20:58]  Yeah, no, no, no, just in general.
[08:20:59]  Actually, I was just kind of thinking about it because it was presented as an issue.
[08:21:01]  I don't know.
[08:21:02]  I've never met a single liberal girl who's sending her personality monster.
[08:21:07]  Just to be clear, you know, look, it's not that I wouldn't protect my girlfriend.
[08:21:11]  Like, if there's a home intruder, like, best believe, I'm going to handle it.
[08:21:15]  I'm not going to, like...
[08:21:17]  Oh, now you're walking back.
[08:21:18]  No, I'm not walking it back.
[08:21:19]  No, there's a difference.
[08:21:20]  I wouldn't die for her.
[08:21:21]  No, hold on.
[08:21:21]  There's a difference between in a hypothetical where one of you has to die, me preferring to live.
[08:21:28]  That's perhaps you could say that's selfish.
[08:21:30]  But that isn't necessarily evidence of some sort of cowardice because if presented with a self-defense situation, I'll rise to the occasion to the best of my ability.
[08:21:40]  Like, if I have to dispatch the home intruder, I will do so.
[08:21:44]  Like, bro, I got a fucking cat.
[08:21:47]  My cat got into.
[08:21:48]  Actually, I don't know if I should share too much detail.
[08:21:51]  Let's just say if somebody, like, another animal's fucking with my cat, because we get, like, raccoons and whatever.
[08:21:57]  Like, I'm going to protect the motherfucking cat.
[08:21:59]  I'll just say that.
[08:22:00]  You're going to lay down your life for the cat, but not the wife.
[08:22:01]  No, I'm not going to lay down my life for the cat, but I'm going to fuck.
[08:22:04]  Just have to check.
[08:22:05]  Whatever's trying to attack my cat is going to fucking get it.
[08:22:08]  Like, it's going to get fucked up.
[08:22:10]  You sound more determined about your cat than you would.
[08:22:12]  No, whoever should have Instagram accounts.
[08:22:15]  Whoever's going to try to attack my girlfriend, my kids, they're going to get fucked up.
[08:22:20]  Like, if somebody...
[08:22:21]  The enthusiasm's not there anymore, not going to lie.
[08:22:23]  Okay.
[08:22:24]  Yeah, with the cat, you were very enthusiastic.
[08:22:25]  All right, I do have to agree with you.
[08:22:27]  I'm very passionate about it.
[08:22:28]  I should just be a cat person from here.
[08:22:29]  You have toxoplasma.
[08:22:31]  I could get the license.
[08:22:33]  Yeah, the cat is.
[08:22:35]  I just bought her multiple beds.
[08:22:37]  Okay, I think we're done with this questionnaire.
[08:22:40]  We got some pre-show notes we got to get into.
[08:22:43]  And then, does anybody, is anybody hungry?
[08:22:45]  I can order us some food.
[08:22:47]  I'll order some food.
[08:22:48]  Can I say that I have a gluten allergy if you are going to order some of these?
[08:22:50]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[08:22:51]  I do.
[08:22:51]  I have celiacs.
[08:22:52]  Sorry.
[08:22:53]  I do.
[08:22:54]  You don't have to have to give me tea.
[08:22:55]  That's my all-star.
[08:22:56]  Okay.
[08:22:56]  Intolerance or allergy?
[08:22:58]  Well, we do have snacks back there.
[08:22:59]  We got snacks back there.
[08:23:00]  All right, let me blast through the pre-show notes from all of you.
[08:23:03]  I'll try to do it as quick as possible.
[08:23:05]  All right.
[08:23:06]  And let's see here.
[08:23:07]  We have.
[08:23:10]  We did that.
[08:23:11]  We did that.
[08:23:14]  Okay, you do OnlyFans, right?
[08:23:16]  You do solo BG content?
[08:23:18]  Yes.
[08:23:18]  But the BG content is with your husband.
[08:23:20]  Yes.
[08:23:20]  You've never done boygirl content with another man.
[08:23:24]  Okay, you're married.
[08:23:25]  You're a stay-at-home mom.
[08:23:28]  Are women dating up unrealistic?
[08:23:32]  I think so.
[08:23:33]  Oh, you think it's unrealistic for women to do that?
[08:23:38]  Yeah, sometimes.
[08:23:39]  I totally agree with you.
[08:23:40]  No disagreement.
[08:23:41]  You say that porn consumption, or you ask, is porn consumption in relationships cheating?
[08:23:48]  I'm not so sure.
[08:23:48]  I'm not sure I would go.
[08:23:50]  I would say it's cheating, but men shouldn't do it and it's wrong.
[08:23:54]  But I don't know if it rises to the level of cheating.
[08:23:57]  I think it's ruining sex.
[08:23:58]  Getting on to another woman.
[08:23:59]  Men should definitely not do it.
[08:24:01]  What's that?
[08:24:01]  But I said he's getting off to another woman.
[08:24:03]  Yeah.
[08:24:04]  I think it's giving also couples an unrealistic expectation of sex.
[08:24:08]  They think we're going to be swinging on swings and doing all this.
[08:24:12]  Teeki shit 24-7.
[08:24:13]  Well, not only that, actually, if you're watching pornography as a man, you're basically training yourself to cuck yourself.
[08:24:18]  That's why cuckholding is becoming more and more of a popular thing.
[08:24:21]  It's voyeuristic.
[08:24:22]  Yeah, it's true.
[08:24:23]  Tiffany, could you give me two water bottles?
[08:24:24]  Also, if the man had the opportunity to have sex with the porn star, he would probably take it.
[08:24:28]  Also, you know what's wild?
[08:24:30]  Also, it's probably an indication that he might like want to in the future.
[08:24:33]  Riley, would you?
[08:24:34]  No.
[08:24:34]  Porn star.
[08:24:35]  What?
[08:24:36]  That's like the first red flag before cheating as well, I feel like.
[08:24:39]  Well, what's wild is that 90% of OnlyFans subscribers are married men.
[08:24:44]  Well, I would say there's like, I think, I think the status, 30% of porn consumers now are women.
[08:24:49]  It's been really good.
[08:24:51]  But I don't know if I believe that.
[08:24:53]  Okay.
[08:24:54]  Just to blast through, you said, do men care more about looks and women care more about money?
[08:24:58]  Is that your.
[08:25:01]  Yeah.
[08:25:02]  Okay.
[08:25:02]  That's your question?
[08:25:04]  Yeah, probably.
[08:25:05]  Okay, next, Emily.
[08:25:07]  Okay, Emily, you were 25, single.
[08:25:09]  You just moved to another state.
[08:25:10]  You met a guy at a restaurant.
[08:25:12]  He wanted to go to another bar.
[08:25:14]  You got in his car.
[08:25:15]  You were driving.
[08:25:16]  He asked if you wanted to sleep with him.
[08:25:18]  You said no.
[08:25:19]  So he did what?
[08:25:21]  So this happened in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
[08:25:24]  He basically told me to get out of his car.
[08:25:27]  Like, he kicked me out of his car on the side of train tracks because I refused to sleep with him.
[08:25:31]  And he proceeded to tell me that he was going to find another bitch who would.
[08:25:35]  Yes.
[08:25:37]  And so you met at a bar and you continued hanging out.
[08:25:39]  It was like an Italian restaurant bar.
[08:25:42]  It was kind of early, and then the night was getting later.
[08:25:44]  I think this happened like around 11 p.m.
[08:25:45]  But it wasn't like a dating app or it wasn't.
[08:25:48]  I met him when I was out there.
[08:25:50]  Okay.
[08:25:51]  And so you called a friend to come save you.
[08:25:53]  Yes.
[08:25:54]  Yeah, okay.
[08:25:55]  So that's wrong for the man to do.
[08:25:58]  You know, you should probably, you know, drive them back or whatever.
[08:26:02]  Like, it's funny talking about it now, but when I was in the situation, like, I was scared.
[08:26:06]  I didn't know where I was.
[08:26:07]  Like, it was a new place.
[08:26:08]  Now, I don't think that's sort of piggybacking off this, though.
[08:26:12]  To the panel, do you guys think that it's wrong?
[08:26:15]  Like, that situation, that's clearly.
[08:26:18]  Well, he could have just taken you back to the bar.
[08:26:20]  He should have driven you somewhere safe, like back home or at least back to the bar.
[08:26:24]  Or a main street?
[08:26:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[08:26:25]  Like, that's a, he had some duty of care for you that he, I mean, yeah.
[08:26:31]  So, um, although I wonder if we flip to the roles, if a woman insisted that a man exit her vehicle, would we have an issue?
[08:26:45]  And he, like, would we have an issue with it?
[08:26:48]  Yes.
[08:26:49]  Like, forcing her to be aware of that.
[08:26:49]  Like, if you denied him sex or something?
[08:26:52]  No, the woman's just like, okay, we're in a dangerous part of town, like, but I'm upset at you for whatever the reason.
[08:26:58]  Get the fuck out.
[08:26:59]  That's not okay.
[08:26:59]  That's not okay.
[08:27:00]  I also felt like if I didn't get out, he could physically remove me.
[08:27:03]  And I don't think I could physically remove a man from my vehicle.
[08:27:06]  Exactly.
[08:27:07]  So that would really scare me if the roles were.
[08:27:10]  Men are stronger than women, so I feel like a little bit scarier.
[08:27:13]  I guess the question I was going to pose, though, is: in a situation where he's not, a man's not being a fucking dickhead and leaving her in a dangerous, precarious situation, do you think it's wrong if a man wants to have sex with a woman and she doesn't she doesn't want to, which totally fine, that he drops her?
[08:27:34]  So, in other words, like he's like, say you drove over to the guy's house and you're like, hey, I don't really want to hook up, which totally fine.
[08:27:42]  And then he's like, oh, well, I do.
[08:27:47]  Can you leave?
[08:27:49]  Is that wrong?
[08:27:49]  Yeah, I don't know.
[08:27:50]  I don't know.
[08:27:50]  It's true.
[08:27:51]  Yeah.
[08:27:52]  No.
[08:27:52]  Because you have your car.
[08:27:54]  It's not like she can get home safe.
[08:27:56]  There's no.
[08:27:58]  But he's just like, oh, I want sex.
[08:28:01]  You don't want to have sex.
[08:28:02]  I don't want to hang out with you anymore.
[08:28:03]  Well, I wish he would have said it before I wasted my time and went over there.
[08:28:06]  But yeah, but yeah.
[08:28:07]  But I think some men would make perhaps a wrong assumption, but I think some men might assume, perhaps wrongly, that if you're coming over to his house, that you may be interested in having sex.
[08:28:20]  That's why I always put it out.
[08:28:21]  I don't, I say that.
[08:28:22]  I'm not going to have sex.
[08:28:23]  It kind of depends on what time, though.
[08:28:25]  But sometimes women on dating apps will be like, like, not looking for a hookup.
[08:28:31]  And then they do actually want to fuck.
[08:28:34]  Then they were like, then they're wrong for that if they're like misstating their intentions initially.
[08:28:39]  But if a guy goes after a woman saying that they're not looking for a hookup, then they are looking for a hookup when a woman that says that, then that's his problem.
[08:28:45]  That's his problem.
[08:28:46]  For every reason that I can think of, it's not wrong to just end an interaction.
[08:28:52]  Right.
[08:28:53]  You have no obligation to be interacting with a person no matter what the reason.
[08:28:58]  Yeah, I mean, no obligation, but it's still like, you can still be able to do it.
[08:29:01]  It would be impolite.
[08:29:02]  I think it would be impolite to do it.
[08:29:03]  It's not wrong.
[08:29:04]  But like, how about this?
[08:29:06]  Let's say the man finishes off the night.
[08:29:08]  Let's say, you know, you were in the middle of watching a movie.
[08:29:11]  You were making out what you were fine with, but he wanted to go further.
[08:29:14]  You don't, and it stops there.
[08:29:16]  You know, there's no pressure.
[08:29:18]  And then you finish the movie and you guys say goodnight as you otherwise would.
[08:29:23]  But then he no longer wants to see you because sex wasn't or isn't on the table.
[08:29:29]  Is that wrong?
[08:29:30]  No.
[08:29:31]  Yes?
[08:29:31]  Yes.
[08:29:32]  Wait, so if a girl doesn't want to fuck, hold on.
[08:29:35]  Then it's wrong?
[08:29:37]  No, if a girl doesn't want to have sex in that scenario, that's fine.
[08:29:40]  And if he suddenly wants to kick her out because she didn't want to have sex with him, then I think I'm judging him for that.
[08:29:46]  So the new scenario is like he makes the move.
[08:29:49]  She says no.
[08:29:50]  He's okay, let's finish the movie.
[08:29:53]  The night ends.
[08:29:54]  You go home, but he's no longer interested and doesn't want to continue seeing you because you turned him down for sex and because sex is not on the table.
[08:30:03]  Is that wrong?
[08:30:04]  Okay, so like, is she just like not, is it like too early for her to have sex or is it just like morally wrong?
[08:30:10]  If it's too early for her, if she feels it's too early for her.
[08:30:14]  Like he wants to have sex on the sooner side.
[08:30:16]  She wants to wait.
[08:30:17]  Okay, if they have different sexual preferences, he can end things with her.
[08:30:20]  That's fine.
[08:30:21]  Anybody else?
[08:30:22]  Any thoughts on that?
[08:30:23]  There's no right or wrong, but I do think that's a conversation that should be had up front.
[08:30:27]  And I always do.
[08:30:28]  I'm not having sex with you at all.
[08:30:30]  I always make sure I say that.
[08:30:32]  I'm not going to.
[08:30:32]  And if it's like, I won't even go over to a man's house without knowing them for a little bit.
[08:30:36]  And when I do, it's, I'm not having sex with you tonight, just to let you know.
[08:30:40]  So I don't give them the false hope of that.
[08:30:42]  I think it's something that needs to be said.
[08:30:43]  But there's no right or wrong to it.
[08:30:44]  It's just something that should be communicated so that people aren't, I'm not out getting kicked out.
[08:30:49]  And then the man's not pissed because he's not getting ass.
[08:30:52]  Yeah, totally fine.
[08:30:53]  I think a man should be able to hang out with the woman without having sex, though.
[08:30:55]  I just want to say.
[08:30:56]  Yeah.
[08:30:57]  Yeah, that's fine.
[08:30:58]  Well, he's doing me a favor if he's going to kick me out because I won't give up my vagina.
[08:31:02]  Like, thank you for not wasting my time any longer.
[08:31:04]  Like, yeah, you just showed your true colors.
[08:31:06]  Thank you.
[08:31:06]  Like, now we're not wasting each other's time.
[08:31:08]  Yeah, I think that's to some degree fair, but I also don't think it's wrong for men to have sexual desire.
[08:31:16]  And if this woman's not going to satisfy it, he can find somebody else.
[08:31:20]  No, of course.
[08:31:21]  He should have his sexual desires completely met.
[08:31:23]  I still think that he should be able to have a hangout with her at some point or at some points without having sex.
[08:31:28]  Well, it should go beyond that.
[08:31:30]  Say he is like, look, maybe we don't have to have sex the first date, but I would like to have sex.
[08:31:36]  You know, he has a three-date rule.
[08:31:37]  If it doesn't have, and he's not saying this is like from a transactional perspective, but this is his internal rule.
[08:31:45]  He's like, hey, I want to have sex by the third date.
[08:31:50]  And she's like, I want to wait three months.
[08:31:52]  Is it wrong for him to be alive?
[08:31:54]  He can end things.
[08:31:55]  Well, I don't want to wait three months to fuck.
[08:31:58]  He doesn't have to wait three months.
[08:31:59]  He can end things.
[08:32:00]  But I will say it's like, if you have a man like that who's expecting sex by the third date, he should not be out here criticizing women for like their promiscuity account.
[08:32:10]  Yeah.
[08:32:11]  I just want to mention that as a side note.
[08:32:13]  It's kind of like Jesse B. Peterson, where it's like, you know, oh, if a woman has sex with a bunch of men, what does that make her?
[08:32:17]  A sla.
[08:32:18]  And it's like, okay, well, does that make you a slut maker?
[08:32:20]  And it's like you're admitting that you're creating the problem.
[08:32:22]  Right.
[08:32:23]  Emily, finishing off your notes, your entire family hates your fiancée.
[08:32:27]  What's the story there?
[08:32:28]  So when we first met, like, both of us didn't really have our shit together.
[08:32:32]  And now we're doing really good and we're about to buy a home.
[08:32:36]  And hopefully they come back into our lives.
[08:32:38]  They did invite me to dinner today, but I am here.
[08:32:41]  So hopefully.
[08:32:42]  W, whatever.
[08:32:44]  It gets better.
[08:32:44]  Hopefully it gets better.
[08:32:45]  It'll get better.
[08:32:46]  Okay.
[08:32:47]  Is there, it's just like you guys were not.
[08:32:50]  Like now he's in the union with HVAC.
[08:32:52]  Like he was just working on the beach when I first met him and I was working in a clothing store and now I have a really good bartending position and he does HVAC and sales and we kind of grew together.
[08:33:03]  You said that splitting the bill, the splitting the bill conversation gets you every time.
[08:33:07]  Why is that?
[08:33:08]  I just really just think men should pay for the first date.
[08:33:11]  I'm not saying that you should take me out to like a $300 dinner, but like my fiancé and I, we ordered a pizza pie.
[08:33:17]  We got some ice cream and he paid for both and that was that.
[08:33:22]  That's really all I got.
[08:33:24]  Okay.
[08:33:25]  What should women do though?
[08:33:28]  Like in what sense?
[08:33:30]  Like on a date or just in general?
[08:33:33]  In general.
[08:33:35]  I think they are the emotional support of the family.
[08:33:38]  I think they make everything pretty and better.
[08:33:40]  Like, I think they make a house a home.
[08:33:42]  I think usually men provide the household, but I make our apartment pretty.
[08:33:47]  I think my fiancé would just sleep with a mattress on the floor if he didn't have me.
[08:33:50]  But I mean, this is something, I mean, sometimes people might not move in together until like it can be months down the road.
[08:33:58]  We did move in pretty quickly.
[08:34:00]  Okay, but I mean, you would agree that most relationships, people are not moving in.
[08:34:06]  We're odd.
[08:34:06]  Usually, we're rare.
[08:34:07]  Yeah, so it's like, but so what is the woman bringing prior to moving in together, which can sometimes be way down the road?
[08:34:17]  Emotional support, maybe friendship.
[08:34:20]  I don't know.
[08:34:21]  Emotional support.
[08:34:22]  Yeah.
[08:34:23]  I find that oftentimes, not all the time.
[08:34:25]  My man is my emotional support, and I hope that I can be his too.
[08:34:28]  I find most of the time, though, that not all the time.
[08:34:33]  I find that I'm the one having to soothe the woman emotionally versus the reverse.
[08:34:40]  I agree.
[08:34:40]  And so it's like emotional, the woman's the emotional support.
[08:34:44]  No, it seems like I'm doing, I hate this fucking term, the emotional labor.
[08:34:49]  Isn't that a little bit more?
[08:34:50]  Well, maybe if he had a lot of people.
[08:34:51]  A little bit of emotion, though.
[08:34:52]  If they're having sex with you, isn't that emotional?
[08:34:54]  Sex would be an equal value exchange.
[08:34:56]  She gets sex.
[08:34:57]  I get sex.
[08:34:58]  We both support him prior to moving in.
[08:35:02]  Like, you don't have to live with him to help him.
[08:35:04]  Like, if you're seriously dating someone and maybe he has a job like you where you're filming 12 hours every week and you're exhausted and she cleans your apartment and does your laundry, that's a big help too, I would think.
[08:35:13]  No, if she does that, do most women do that?
[08:35:19]  I would hope so.
[08:35:19]  I do, but I don't think most women do, unfortunately.
[08:35:22]  And I don't think most Western women do either.
[08:35:24]  I think they want everything.
[08:35:25]  You can't just take, take, and take.
[08:35:27]  You have to give too.

=== Biblical Laundry Exchange (04:04) ===

[08:35:28]  Okay.
[08:35:30]  All right.
[08:35:32]  Yeah, I don't know.
[08:35:33]  About the like the men should pay thing.
[08:35:35]  That's always wondering why.
[08:35:39]  Like, I do.
[08:35:43]  But why?
[08:35:44]  He also had a better job than me at the time.
[08:35:46]  Why should men.
[08:35:47]  I don't know.
[08:35:48]  It seems like it seems like, look, I guess here's what I'm getting at.
[08:35:53]  Men should do X, men should do Y. Men should do Z. What can we say women should do?
[08:36:01]  There's expectations on men.
[08:36:03]  What are the expectations on women?
[08:36:04]  Have sex with you?
[08:36:05]  Have sex with you every day?
[08:36:07]  I don't know.
[08:36:10]  But she also gets sex.
[08:36:13]  And a lot of the time she's like, not all women.
[08:36:17]  I don't know.
[08:36:18]  Again, maybe I don't.
[08:36:19]  Can you tell me what you would like or give me a hint or somewhere in this?
[08:36:23]  Well, yeah, like, yeah, of course.
[08:36:24]  Like, yeah, laundry, clean, cook.
[08:36:29]  I have one.
[08:36:30]  Give me kids down the road.
[08:36:32]  But that's down the road.
[08:36:33]  That's down the road.
[08:36:35]  So you have to be able to get to that down the road.
[08:36:38]  And in order to do that, you have to kids.
[08:36:42]  Biblically speaking, a woman's role is supposed to be a privilege.
[08:36:43]  I'm not giving up my vagina for anything.
[08:36:45]  A woman's role is supposed to bring peace to the home priest, to the man.
[08:36:48]  That's like her.
[08:36:50]  Yeah, Lotto's getting that peace.
[08:36:51]  But the issue is that, once again, we're not living in biblical, like in a biblical society.
[08:36:57]  So instead, women are inverse and they're not bringing peace.
[08:36:59]  They're bringing chaos.
[08:37:01]  Which is exactly why men are averse to getting married because they're like, well, what is the best?
[08:37:05]  Or like what Brian just said, too, about in his home in the separate bedrooms.
[08:37:09]  Do you think if someone's a guest in his house, they really should be crashing out like that either?
[08:37:13]  Like, do you think that's appropriate adult behavior when you're in someone else's household?
[08:37:17]  Well, not only that, you can kick someone out at that point.
[08:37:21]  That's like psychotic.
[08:37:22]  Well, that's the thing is the grasp on their own emotional.
[08:37:24]  That was that rare piece.
[08:37:25]  The grasp on their own.
[08:37:26]  Definitely did not bring me emotion.
[08:37:27]  Thank you.
[08:37:27]  That's why you got a cat.
[08:37:29]  Well, that's why I think you should just put it out there.
[08:37:31]  Just try it.
[08:37:31]  Just put it out there.
[08:37:32]  I do.
[08:37:33]  I literally, it's on my fucking girlfriend questionnaire.
[08:37:35]  It's the most autistic fucking thing ever.
[08:37:37]  The best private.
[08:37:37]  I want to see it, though.
[08:37:39]  One day I will reveal the girlfriend after that.
[08:37:41]  I think no matter what you do, if you're trying to do like traditional, if those are your desires and expectations, I want a man to pay for the first date, provide, protect, etc.
[08:37:52]  I think no matter what you do, there's a power imbalance that happens because women have the optionality to be choosier.
[08:38:00]  And so, in the beginning, it's unfortunate.
[08:38:02]  But if I were a guy and I was interested in a girl and wanted a relationship with her, I don't know that I would risk not paying on the first date because she may be averse to that.
[08:38:13]  I'm not saying it's fair, but on the flip side of that, from my worldview, there is a bit of a power imbalance.
[08:38:20]  I try to demonstrate, you know, how I will be in the marriage.
[08:38:24]  And then once I'm married, my husband has my complete and utter submission.
[08:38:28]  And then he has the authority, he has the power, etc.
[08:38:34]  I have paid for my boyfriend's things before, but I'm saying initially, like when we're first starting off, you better pay for me.
[08:38:42]  Period.
[08:38:42]  Well, the other question is getting into it.
[08:38:44]  Getting into it.
[08:38:45]  Like, I'm cool to like, hey, let's do this, let's do that.
[08:38:49]  Yeah, but I just want to know that you're not using me and that you're going to provide.
[08:38:54]  And then once you prove that, I'm all, hey, babe, let's go out to dinner.
[08:38:57]  Like, I'm me.
[08:38:59]  Lisa Bella.
[08:39:01]  Lisa Bella.
[08:39:02]  So you're Mormon, LDS?
[08:39:05]  Used to be.
[08:39:05]  Used to be.
[08:39:06]  You said, okay, we already talked about the laundry thing, skip that.
[08:39:10]  You say it's outrageous, though.
[08:39:12]  You're outraged when you hear me say the woman should do the laundry on the first date.
[08:39:16]  You know what?
[08:39:16]  I'm actually sometimes a gentleman, though.
[08:39:18]  Hear me out.
[08:39:20]  It'll already be done in the dryer.
[08:39:22]  So she just has to fold.
[08:39:23]  I'm a nice guy, right?
[08:39:25]  A gentleman.
[08:39:26]  I'm not going to have her put it in the washer, transfer it to the dryer.
[08:39:30]  It's already handle your dirty laundry.

=== Shrooms And Dirty Laundry (03:39) ===

[08:39:33]  Okay.
[08:39:33]  Well, my, by the way, this changes everything.
[08:39:36]  My laundry is even before it goes into the washer, it's pretty much clean.
[08:39:43]  It's clean.
[08:39:44]  To be fair to me, no, like streak marks.
[08:39:47]  I am not.
[08:39:48]  I'm not really traditional, so I don't expect a man to be paying on the first date.
[08:39:52]  So of course I'd be at first.
[08:39:54]  Hold on, hold on, moving on.
[08:39:55]  Two times you've been in a situation where a guy has told you it would ruin his life if you did not get an abortion in the case of pregnancy.
[08:40:02]  It's true.
[08:40:03]  Needless to say, neither of those relationships lasted.
[08:40:08]  Yeah.
[08:40:09]  So wait, did you get abortions?
[08:40:11]  No.
[08:40:11]  Okay, so they're saying if you got pregnant, it would ruin their lives if you did not get the abortion.
[08:40:20]  Okay.
[08:40:20]  But you didn't.
[08:40:21]  Okay, I see.
[08:40:22]  You didn't actually get the abortions.
[08:40:25]  A conversation would just come up and they would tell me hard.
[08:40:29]  Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
[08:40:31]  More pro-life.
[08:40:32]  Okay.
[08:40:33]  You said a boyfriend strangled you while he was on drugs and you still stayed with him.
[08:40:41]  That's my current boyfriend.
[08:40:43]  Oh, no.
[08:40:43]  Wait, hold on.
[08:40:45]  Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
[08:40:46]  I got, wait.
[08:40:47]  Is he sober now?
[08:40:48]  Wait, hold on.
[08:40:49]  Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
[08:40:53]  Wait, so you write, you think modern dating encourages people to give up on a, excuse me, to give up on a relationship after the slightest red flag.
[08:41:04]  You value sticking through hard things and not giving up so easily.
[08:41:08]  On one hand, you're very right or die.
[08:41:11]  On the other hand, I don't know.
[08:41:12]  I think if a man tries to choke you, I think you can leave.
[08:41:18]  But it was like a drug-induced psychosis.
[08:41:21]  No, no, no.
[08:41:21]  It's not okay.
[08:41:22]  It doesn't value your dad.
[08:41:24]  This does not help his easy.
[08:41:26]  That doesn't work.
[08:41:27]  You don't understand.
[08:41:28]  He's a criminal.
[08:41:29]  No, but he was only under drugs.
[08:41:31]  You're family like him.
[08:41:31]  That makes it worse.
[08:41:32]  My family absolutely loves him.
[08:41:35]  He deserves better.
[08:41:35]  Do you know why?
[08:41:37]  Do you know why?
[08:41:38]  What?
[08:41:39]  He's not a drug addict.
[08:41:41]  This was like a one-off thing.
[08:41:44]  Like he was slipped something.
[08:41:45]  No, no.
[08:41:46]  He chose to do this drug.
[08:41:49]  So he willfully choked you.
[08:41:51]  That's the drug.
[08:41:53]  No, he has no memory of it.
[08:41:55]  Most people who try drugs once don't just strangle their partner, though.
[08:41:59]  That's kind of scary, terrifying.
[08:42:01]  Well, what's he going to do when he gets a couple of people?
[08:42:02]  Do you have ever choked you after or before?
[08:42:06]  No.
[08:42:06]  Any other physical violence?
[08:42:08]  Nope.
[08:42:09]  Was he on shrooms and he thought you were a dragon?
[08:42:12]  I'm sorry.
[08:42:12]  When you're on shrooms, you're very nice and happy.
[08:42:14]  Wait, is that what happened?
[08:42:15]  He thought you were someone else or something else.
[08:42:17]  The thing about this trip, like, we've done shrooms together other times, and it was fun.
[08:42:24]  This trip for him was different because he was being antagonized by his friends that aren't his friends anymore before I even got there.
[08:42:34]  So by the time I got there, he was freaking out.
[08:42:37]  I would say morally, he's in the clear because he had no idea that it was you because he was on shrooms.
[08:42:42]  But for your future life, that is not a good thing to continue.
[08:42:49]  But listen, he was freaking out and he did something similar.
[08:42:57]  What if this happens with your newborn child?
[08:43:00]  He wouldn't be on shrooms near a child.
[08:43:02]  Okay.
[08:43:03]  Why was he on shrooms near the child?
[08:43:04]  He did something similar but less severe to his friends that were there before I was, that were supposed to be watching him.

=== Slapping A Woman Gun (13:15) ===

[08:43:12]  And they wouldn't even talk to him.
[08:43:17]  They wouldn't even have a conversation with him.
[08:43:18]  What I'm saying is.
[08:43:19]  How long have you been with him?
[08:43:20]  10 months?
[08:43:22]  Once.
[08:43:22]  Oh, that's not enough time to do it.
[08:43:23]  Yeah.
[08:43:24]  And this happens.
[08:43:26]  She's like 10 years old.
[08:43:29]  This happens one month in.
[08:43:32]  Listen, I don't think that's one little tiny thing.
[08:43:35]  That's crazy.
[08:43:36]  You deserve better, girl.
[08:43:37]  You deserve better.
[08:43:38]  Stand up.
[08:43:39]  You're kind of hurt him.
[08:43:40]  Just to be clear, I don't think you should ever be in either direction.
[08:43:43]  There should ever be any physical violence whatsoever.
[08:43:48]  However.
[08:43:49]  Oh, my goodness.
[08:43:50]  Oh, God.
[08:43:50]  Oh, my goodness.
[08:43:51]  Hold on.
[08:43:51]  No, no, no, hold on.
[08:43:54]  Can there be a situation in like some fucking near-end relationship argument and your girlfriend is saying some terrible shit?
[08:44:10]  Again, I would never do this.
[08:44:12]  I don't think it should happen.
[08:44:13]  Or the woman hits the man, right?
[08:44:15]  Say the woman slaps the man once and they've been together for three years.
[08:44:19]  More likely.
[08:44:20]  Or let's say the man and the woman have been together for three years and he's never been violent to her before, but she says something like, and that's why your dad left you.
[08:44:30]  Now look.
[08:44:32]  Now look.
[08:44:33]  I don't think you should ever hit a woman.
[08:44:36]  But I don't know.
[08:44:38]  But that means forget everything else I just said.
[08:44:40]  I would never hit a woman.
[08:44:42]  But I could see a guy if a woman digs in with the night in such a way.
[08:44:50]  Be a man and fuck it.
[08:44:51]  I mean, I'm just saying, I would never.
[08:44:54]  Don't be so sensible.
[08:44:55]  I'm saying if you slapped a woman once.
[08:44:59]  No.
[08:45:00]  It's a slippery slow.
[08:45:01]  Hold on.
[08:45:01]  It's a slippery slow.
[08:45:02]  And it never happens again.
[08:45:04]  No.
[08:45:05]  Can there be forgiveness?
[08:45:07]  I'm not suggesting.
[08:45:09]  I'm just asking as a question.
[08:45:12]  Can there be.
[08:45:14]  Can it still work?
[08:45:16]  But Brian, can somebody make a mistake?
[08:45:18]  These ladies would not know that it would never happen again.
[08:45:21]  It's like the Sean Connery thing.
[08:45:22]  It's like you never do it with an open order.
[08:45:24]  You can give somebody a second chance, but never a third.
[08:45:27]  No, no, no.
[08:45:27]  Not even a second idea.
[08:45:29]  No one.
[08:45:30]  Now let's see if you're consistent, though.
[08:45:32]  Let's see if you're consistent.
[08:45:35]  How about this?
[08:45:36]  Wait, let me change the framing a bit.
[08:45:38]  Your girlfriend cheats on you and you just open, again, never do this.
[08:45:43]  You should leave.
[08:45:44]  You should break up with her.
[08:45:45]  Okay.
[08:45:46]  But he slaps her across the face.
[08:45:51]  Okay.
[08:45:52]  You shouldn't, right?
[08:45:53]  It's over, right?
[08:45:55]  Boyfriend cheats on his girlfriend.
[08:45:59]  And she slaps him.
[08:46:02]  Is there coming back from that?
[08:46:03]  I bet you women are like, yeah, probably.
[08:46:06]  She's wrong.
[08:46:07]  I wish she would probably slap him.
[08:46:10]  It's worse because he's physically strong.
[08:46:11]  Let's say they're like, okay, I cheated on you and you slapped me and she wants to make it work and he wants to make it work.
[08:46:19]  Can it work?
[08:46:20]  Sorry, you said you're allowed to have a double stand earlier.
[08:46:22]  We're allowed to have a double standard with this.
[08:46:24]  Yeah, men should not hit women.
[08:46:25]  A man should not hit.
[08:46:26]  But it's okay for women.
[08:46:28]  It's not.
[08:46:28]  It's not as bad ideal, but it's not as bad.
[08:46:30]  Brian, the big difference is stronger than the white girl.
[08:46:36]  I think that's besides the way.
[08:46:37]  Look at Griselda.
[08:46:38]  Look at her arms.
[08:46:39]  She looks strong.
[08:46:40]  That's strong.
[08:46:43]  Independent women, Brian.
[08:46:44]  No, but it's not a strong woman.
[08:46:46]  You're including him.
[08:46:47]  Don't even make any sense.
[08:46:48]  But some men are actually weak.
[08:46:51]  I know.
[08:46:51]  I actually presume that.
[08:46:55]  I think we're missing something really important that she said, which is the part about people giving up on relationships too quickly.
[08:47:03]  It doesn't apply to me.
[08:47:04]  Hold on.
[08:47:05]  I entirely agree with that position.
[08:47:07]  And if, like, I'm married, so maybe it's a little bit different, but I can tell you with certainty that, like, I'm in this marriage 110%.
[08:47:18]  And if my husband, like, hauled off and slapped me, which I know who I married, and I don't think he would ever do it.
[08:47:24]  But I wouldn't leave him over one time.
[08:47:28]  If it became a pattern, that's something different.
[08:47:30]  I would say leave after the first time.
[08:47:31]  Is there a woman?
[08:47:35]  Look, is there ever a scenario where someone could say something so vile, so disturbing, so crushing that it would overwhelm you to the point where your hand becomes rigid.
[08:47:55]  Slow testosterone activity.
[08:47:56]  I'm trying to let a story about that.
[08:47:58]  Now look, I agree with Charles.
[08:47:59]  I've never hit a woman.
[08:48:00]  You should never hit a woman.
[08:48:02]  If a woman said some fucked up shit to me, I mean, I'll tell her to get the fuck out of my house.
[08:48:07]  I'll tell her in harsh words.
[08:48:09]  I don't think I would hit her.
[08:48:10]  But I'm just saying.
[08:48:11]  You don't think.
[08:48:13]  You don't think.
[08:48:13]  Yes, I don't think.
[08:48:15]  You should know that you wouldn't.
[08:48:16]  But I think you're invoke me.
[08:48:19]  I know I wouldn't hit a woman.
[08:48:20]  I'm just saying I'm interested in the double standard that exists.
[08:48:23]  It seems like y'all give women leeway for slapping.
[08:48:30]  My relationship says fuck down.
[08:48:34]  If hitting somebody is wrong.
[08:48:36]  So hold on.
[08:48:37]  Let's say, hold on.
[08:48:38]  Let's say in the scenario, the man is weaker than the woman.
[08:48:42]  He's married to like a steroid bodybuilder.
[08:48:45]  Does that change anything?
[08:48:46]  Well, technically, physically, it's been proven that they're still stronger.
[08:48:49]  I still keep up with a double standard.
[08:48:51]  If y'all get to that point, the relationship is done.
[08:48:53]  No one's going to go past that.
[08:48:54]  Brian, you're bringing up some likes.
[08:48:56]  That's some like liberal thing to do to bring up like some excessive.
[08:48:58]  Yeah, you're not allowed to do it.
[08:48:59]  You're not like some bodybuilder.
[08:49:01]  True.
[08:49:02]  Like you said, though, you can say whatever you want to say.
[08:49:04]  There's other ways you can let out that frustration and that anger.
[08:49:06]  You can yell at her.
[08:49:07]  You can cuss her out.
[08:49:08]  Like, okay, if she said something that foul, cuss her out.
[08:49:10]  I'm just saying.
[08:49:11]  I don't think that's a good idea.
[08:49:11]  Don't play a breaking point, though.
[08:49:12]  I still think men and women have their breaking point.
[08:49:14]  And there is something that if someone says it, it's almost like it's really hard, basically.
[08:49:19]  If somebody like you shouldn't do it.
[08:49:21]  If my girl.
[08:49:22]  Still shouldn't.
[08:49:23]  Yeah.
[08:49:24]  Hold on.
[08:49:25]  I'm not going to talk about me.
[08:49:26]  I can see a man who has such a strong affinity for his father or his mother and his significant other was mouthing off about his mother or his father.
[08:49:40]  I could see I would never do it.
[08:49:44]  I would understand.
[08:49:45]  No, you leave and you never give that woman the time of day again.
[08:49:48]  Wow.
[08:49:49]  I've never hit that woman.
[08:49:50]  No.
[08:49:51]  Listen.
[08:49:52]  You never hit a woman.
[08:49:53]  I never heard about it.
[08:49:54]  I don't understand.
[08:49:55]  Well, if it did, I've never hit anyone.
[08:49:57]  I should still be open to giving them a second chance.
[08:50:00]  Well, actually, if you're in the situation where you are domestic with a woman, the woman can leverage it against you is the issue, really.
[08:50:09]  Like, there is no appeal for a man if a woman gets physical with him.
[08:50:12]  In fact, she could even hurt herself and claim that the man did it.
[08:50:15]  So I think that's the double standard legally even that's happening, basically.
[08:50:19]  Well, how about this?
[08:50:20]  A woman slaps a man.
[08:50:21]  Can he slap her back?
[08:50:23]  Oh, yeah.
[08:50:24]  No.
[08:50:24]  Okay.
[08:50:25]  Oh.
[08:50:25]  Hold on, hold on.
[08:50:26]  It depends.
[08:50:27]  Like, Taylor Frankie Paul.
[08:50:29]  She bridged the physical gap.
[08:50:30]  You need to get out of there.
[08:50:31]  Okay, what I do say, what I will say about like a man being able to defend himself is if a woman's like attacking him, he does have the right to push her off him.
[08:50:38]  Whole panel, raise your hand.
[08:50:40]  If a woman slaps a man, can he slap her back?
[08:50:45]  Raise your hand.
[08:50:46]  I do actually agree with that.
[08:50:49]  Raise your hand for yesterday.
[08:50:51]  No.
[08:50:51]  No.
[08:50:52]  Oh, interesting.
[08:50:52]  You can push her off.
[08:50:53]  Now, look, to be clear, to be clear, I want to make something very clear.
[08:50:56]  As a man, if a woman hits you, you should show restraint and you should not hit her back.
[08:51:03]  You should remove yourself from the situation.
[08:51:05]  It's over with that woman.
[08:51:06]  Yep.
[08:51:07]  It's over.
[08:51:08]  That's a smart question.
[08:51:09]  Well, we don't have to ever see her again.
[08:51:10]  Second Amendment.
[08:51:11]  If a man hits her back.
[08:51:12]  But she shouldn't hit him back.
[08:51:14]  But hold on.
[08:51:15]  If I was in public and I saw a girlfriend as hard as she fucking could slap a man, I would understand why he slaps her back.
[08:51:26]  It would be fair.
[08:51:27]  That's fair.
[08:51:28]  I think that's fair.
[08:51:29]  I like the Second Amendment right.
[08:51:31]  If a man shouldn't do it, but the fact that if he was socially allowed to do it, women would hit less.
[08:51:36]  Wait, how about women would be a family?
[08:51:37]  Let me ask the blacksmith.
[08:51:39]  A black man is dating a white woman and she calls him the N-word and slaps him.
[08:51:45]  Can that brother?
[08:51:47]  Can that brother slap a bitch?
[08:51:50]  No.
[08:51:51]  Can the brother slap a bitch?
[08:51:53]  No.
[08:51:53]  No.
[08:51:54]  Tell him, can the brother slap a bitch?
[08:51:56]  I just think, yeah, I think you can be provoked to a certain point.
[08:52:00]  Like I can say some real fucked up shit.
[08:52:04]  And I go there.
[08:52:05]  Like if I know something, like I don't know if you can say that.
[08:52:07]  I can say some fucked up shit back as cancer.
[08:52:09]  Like I don't care.
[08:52:10]  I'm going to go there too.
[08:52:11]  But he offered your life.
[08:52:12]  I don't care.
[08:52:13]  I don't want to feel faint about it.
[08:52:14]  You can always say something bad.
[08:52:15]  They go low, you go lower with your words.
[08:52:17]  But it's going to hurt you more if your man talks about something personal because we're emotional.
[08:52:21]  So it'll stick with you even if he's like, oh, I was mad in the moment.
[08:52:26]  Okay, but he can still do that over hitting a woman.
[08:52:29]  Just really quick, final thing.
[08:52:31]  By the way, prescriptively, I would say, even though I say I would understand it, men, if a woman slaps you, extricate yourself from the situation.
[08:52:40]  Even though I think you would actually be legally justified slapping her back, I guess, and morally justified to slap her back.
[08:52:47]  Whoa.
[08:52:48]  No, you're totally morally justified.
[08:52:50]  Hold on.
[08:52:50]  She slapped you.
[08:52:51]  Slap her.
[08:52:52]  No.
[08:52:52]  No.
[08:52:53]  However, no, because it tolerates abuse from her.
[08:52:56]  That's the issue.
[08:52:57]  Then she's allowed to go further.
[08:52:58]  That's what women usually do with their husbands.
[08:52:59]  Hold on.
[08:53:00]  Hold on.
[08:53:00]  As a man, even if a woman slaps you, my prescriptive advice would be you don't hit her back.
[08:53:06]  You got to remove yourself from the situation.
[08:53:07]  It's over.
[08:53:08]  It's over because one, if you're in public, she hits you, you hit her back.
[08:53:13]  There's going to be white knight simps who are going to fuck you up.
[08:53:16]  And then the cops are going to come.
[08:53:17]  Even though she's the aggressor, you might end up getting arrested as the man, even though she's the one who struck you.
[08:53:24]  So for that reason, and just for the reason, look, you got fucking slapped and you shouldn't hit back.
[08:53:30]  I don't know.
[08:53:31]  No, that was very much my situation.
[08:53:33]  Like, yeah, I did hit my ex and he got arrested.
[08:53:37]  So, yeah.
[08:53:39]  How about in the middle of the wait, wait, how about this?
[08:53:42]  In a genuine.
[08:53:43]  So the woman slaps once, but there's not a continuing threat.
[08:53:46]  Let's say there's a continuing threat from the woman, and now you're in a self-defense position.
[08:53:51]  Can a man who's being assailed by a woman continuously, so the threat is persistent, can he then fuck up a bitch?
[08:53:59]  No, he can like.
[08:54:00]  Yes, he can.
[08:54:02]  No.
[08:54:02]  He can push her off the body.
[08:54:04]  Women have killed her husband and that's dangerous.
[08:54:05]  Legally speaking.
[08:54:07]  Legally speaking, yeah, he's going to go to change anything.
[08:54:09]  Legally speaking, you can knock a bitch out.
[08:54:12]  Like if she has a lot of things coming at you, morally.
[08:54:15]  Yes, morally.
[08:54:16]  Morally off.
[08:54:18]  Knock a bitch out.
[08:54:19]  No, think of trying to kill you.
[08:54:20]  That's the only thing that's going to be a little bit more stool.
[08:54:22]  Hold on.
[08:54:22]  If a woman is coming at you and you've made the determination, like you're now self-defense.
[08:54:27]  But I feel like you should get out of that situation.
[08:54:29]  Get out of that situation.
[08:54:30]  There's not a duty.
[08:54:31]  California, there's not a duty to retreat.
[08:54:34]  If somebody's trying to punch you, you can punch them back.
[08:54:37]  There is a duty to retreat in California, actually.
[08:54:40]  No, there's not.
[08:54:40]  Wait, hold on.
[08:54:41]  It's not standing your ground in California.
[08:54:43]  No, California, stand your ground.
[08:54:46]  Stand your ground.
[08:54:47]  They don't exactly have too strong of a...
[08:54:48]  You got to mean stand your ground in your own house in California.
[08:54:51]  Yeah, exactly.
[08:54:52]  If a robber breaks in, you're supposed to run away upstairs.
[08:54:55]  And then call a social media.
[08:54:57]  Okay, I'd have to look into it.
[08:54:59]  If you get into a gunfight with a robber and you shoot them in the front, if they see bolt holes in the chest and not entering through the back, you will be tried and prosecuted in the state of California for that.
[08:55:10]  Are you sure?
[08:55:10]  Is it sure that they weren't trying...
[08:55:12]  Or sorry, if the bolt holes were in their back.
[08:55:14]  Oh, in the back.
[08:55:15]  If the bolt holes are in the back of a intruder, you will be sent to jail in the state of California.
[08:55:21]  There's no castle doctrine.
[08:55:22]  No, I'm pretty sure there's castle doctrine.
[08:55:24]  No, California, you don't have a duty to retreat.
[08:55:27]  I believe in California.
[08:55:28]  You do.
[08:55:28]  I mean, look it up, of course.
[08:55:30]  Okay, I will say the only thing I would accept from what I'm saying is like if she is pointing a gun at you or she has like a deadly weapon.
[08:55:38]  Does California have castle doctrine?
[08:55:41]  But how are you going to slap a woman with a gun in her hand?
[08:55:44]  It's like that's completely uneven.
[08:55:45]  You got to use God to slap a woman.
[08:55:47]  Yeah, like you got to use an equal amount of force for it to be okay.
[08:55:51]  What happened?
[08:55:51]  You got to use an equal amount of force for it to be okay.
[08:55:54]  That's just not an equal.
[08:55:55]  It's kind of...
[08:55:55]  Yeah, so California does have castle doctrine, but it's limited.
[08:56:02]  It says you have the right to use force, including deadly force, inside your home if someone unlawfully and forcibly enters and you reasonably believe they pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
[08:56:14]  There is a legal presumption in your favor.
[08:56:16]  If an intruder breaks into your home, the law generally assumes your fear was reasonable.
[08:56:23]  It does apply mainly to your residence, not to your car, workplace, or public spaces.

=== Jehovah Witnesses Control (05:04) ===

[08:56:28]  Okay.
[08:56:28]  That's crazy.
[08:56:29]  The force used must still be reasonable under the circumstances.
[08:56:33]  It doesn't give unlimited.
[08:56:34]  Okay.
[08:56:34]  Stand your ground.
[08:56:35]  And that'll come here.
[08:56:37]  I might have been wrong.
[08:56:38]  Might have been wrong on the stand your ground thing then.
[08:56:42]  But anyway, I don't think it was wrong for me to have stayed with that guy.
[08:56:45]  There's no explicit duty to retreat if you're somewhere you're legally allowed to be.
[08:56:51]  However, self-defense still hinges on reasonableness and necessity.
[08:56:54]  So anyways, okay, next topic then.
[08:56:57]  Let me blast through these.
[08:57:01]  Let's see.
[08:57:02]  Oh, yeah, I need to do that.
[08:57:04]  Okay.
[08:57:05]  The boyfriend strangled you.
[08:57:06]  You got a guy banned from Wing Stop after give us the quick story?
[08:57:12]  He'd had a crush on me for eight years.
[08:57:14]  I eventually agreed to go on a date with him.
[08:57:18]  I did, and then he started showing up at my work all the time.
[08:57:24]  He brought like his family in to meet me.
[08:57:26]  Just like he was a little bit delusional.
[08:57:28]  And my sister priest to marry you.
[08:57:30]  My sister was the manager.
[08:57:31]  She was my boss.
[08:57:32]  And so I told her about it as a joke.
[08:57:35]  And she was like, sent me his number and a picture of him.
[08:57:39]  And I was like, okay, just kind of as my sister.
[08:57:42]  But apparently, as my boss, she went to the district manager, got him banned.
[08:57:47]  Oh, goodness.
[08:57:48]  Okay.
[08:57:48]  You dated a guy named Goose.
[08:57:51]  This fuck, this freaking guy, he genuinely had this delusion that he was the only real person in the world.
[08:58:00]  Like he, we were in a simulation.
[08:58:02]  Real, honestly.
[08:58:05]  How are you supposed to be in a relationship?
[08:58:08]  I want to say that, but he wasn't diagnosed.
[08:58:10]  So like, whatever.
[08:58:11]  If you have like no concept.
[08:58:12]  Sorry, I got to move it on, Hannah.
[08:58:14]  You got excommunicated from the LDS church.
[08:58:16]  Why is that?
[08:58:17]  I did.
[08:58:19]  Because in high school, I was being intimate with my high school boyfriend.
[08:58:22]  But that is not on par for Mormon culture at all.
[08:58:25]  That was like a very, very weird, like, extreme, I think.
[08:58:33]  I'll be right back.
[08:58:35]  Was he also Mormon?
[08:58:36]  No.
[08:58:38]  No, but the bishop at the time was like a high school teacher.
[08:58:41]  And I don't, the whole thing was weird.
[08:58:44]  That's not normal, though.
[08:58:45]  It takes a lot in the LDS culture to get excommunicated.
[08:58:47]  So it wasn't even, it wasn't the fact that I was excommunicated.
[08:58:50]  It was what was more hurtful was the things that people said or assumed because I was.
[08:58:57]  Like people had made assumptions that I potentially was pregnant and had an abortion or things.
[08:59:01]  It was like, I would never have.
[08:59:03]  Like Sarah Stock stuff, how they're like, okay, she cheated, so she must have had an abortion or something.
[08:59:07]  Yeah, exactly.
[08:59:08]  Where it just, that was never the case.
[08:59:10]  But that's the thing about those type of communities.
[08:59:13]  And I found it interesting when you said, like, oh, you don't know what reality is anymore in Christianity and all of that jazz.
[08:59:18]  It's like when you leave a high thought control group, not only does it make you super dependent on like the people around you, but you don't feel real anymore.
[08:59:26]  You're just kind of like grasping at straws.
[08:59:30]  But yeah, I'm like, it's hard.
[08:59:32]  I was, as I mentioned before, I was raised Jehovah's Witness, so I sympathize with your.
[08:59:36]  They do excommunicate you if you end up 100%.
[08:59:39]  They'll excommunicate you or any little thing.
[08:59:42]  Really?
[08:59:42]  100%.
[08:59:44]  Mormon church, it's very hard to get your name.
[08:59:47]  I know.
[08:59:47]  That's why I'm very nice.
[08:59:49]  Yeah.
[08:59:49]  Mormons are very nice.
[08:59:50]  Yeah, they actually, typically they really are.
[08:59:52]  My city of Tamako is like 20% Mormon.
[08:59:54]  It's like a little Utah.
[08:59:55]  It's part of the culture, the Mormon culture.
[08:59:57]  They're trying to recruit you.
[08:59:59]  They're always smiling and stuff.
[09:00:00]  I mean, it kind of works.
[09:00:01]  Yeah, I know, honestly.
[09:00:03]  I got re-baptized, though.
[09:00:04]  No, but that's the thing.
[09:00:06]  To go back to the whole Christian subject, since it was broached before, like the reason people say Mormons aren't Christians, what's your concept of the Trinity in Mormonism again?
[09:00:17]  Like Christ is your big brother.
[09:00:19]  Oh, yeah, they're all separate.
[09:00:20]  And yeah, they're separate, but it's like a weird.
[09:00:23]  There's God, Jesus Christ, and then the Holy Ghost, and they're separate.
[09:00:26]  Yeah, that's not Christian.
[09:00:28]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[09:00:28]  Yeah, I had the same struggle with the Jehovah's Witnesses where I'm like, but it's Christian.
[09:00:32]  It's Bible-based.
[09:00:33]  But it's like they believe that Christ is not God, so it's not Christian.
[09:00:36]  Mormonism is not Bible-based.
[09:00:38]  When you pervert it, immediately you start to see these bigger issues that come into play within those kind of high thought control groups.
[09:00:44]  They have to be high thought control to keep you in because it doesn't actually make sense when you're still within it, basically.
[09:00:49]  Wait, so what would it be then if it is the church of Jesus Christ?
[09:00:53]  Well, when it comes to, I mean, I know what they call it.
[09:00:55]  It's like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
[09:00:56]  It's like, but we witness Jehovah.
[09:00:58]  But when it comes to like the Mormons, I don't know what heresies they were based off of.
[09:01:03]  I know that they had like the belief that, you know, America is like Egypt and like the whole Garden of Eden, I think, is in Florida.
[09:01:10]  Missouri.
[09:01:11]  Oh, Missouri.
[09:01:11]  Supposedly Garden V. Like there's reasons why they think that way.
[09:01:14]  Same thing with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
[09:01:15]  They believed in a bunch of pyramidology and that's how they got into their conclusions.
[09:01:18]  Well, yeah, it's all just paganism.
[09:01:20]  And they also believe in like modern day revelation, which is not like typically a Christian thing to have somebody, you know, interpret the 1800s and however be like, I have received word from God.

=== Alimony Career Sacrifice (14:44) ===

[09:01:32]  Honestly, I would argue when it comes to modern dating, it was ruined in the 1800s by these like these like subgroups.
[09:01:40]  Got to move on.
[09:01:40]  Okay, Hannah, you disagree with Brian about alimony.
[09:01:44]  Why is that?
[09:01:44]  What?
[09:01:45]  You disagree, you wrote in your notes, disagree with Brian about alimony.
[09:01:50]  Oh, do you think, didn't you say before you don't think that men should pay alimony?
[09:01:56]  So you maybe saw an episode where there, I think it was last weekend, a woman was on the show and she had been married to this guy for 10 years, 10 plus years.
[09:02:07]  And then she had been split from him for 10 plus years.
[09:02:11]  He still is paying her alimony.
[09:02:14]  Well, yeah.
[09:02:15]  I think that's ridiculous.
[09:02:16]  Kids?
[09:02:18]  Her kids are, if I recall, both adults.
[09:02:22]  So he was also paying her child support, but that's subsided.
[09:02:26]  But he's going to have to pay her alimony for life.
[09:02:28]  That's wrong.
[09:02:29]  Yeah.
[09:02:31]  They do alimony.
[09:02:32]  Like I was married for eight years.
[09:02:33]  They'll typically do at least like half, like four years.
[09:02:36]  My understanding, though, and it obviously varies by state, is in California and perhaps other states, once you get past 10 years, you can get into lifetime alimony.
[09:02:49]  And with that, can I also add, I had a friend who, when I was living here, his wife cheated on him with the literal pool boy, literally.
[09:02:56]  And he was like, I'm not going to kick her out.
[09:02:59]  He took her in.
[09:03:00]  He's like, I don't want to kick her out.
[09:03:01]  Like, she's got nothing.
[09:03:02]  She's got nowhere to go.
[09:03:03]  So he ends up raising this kid that's not his for two years.
[09:03:06]  And he knew it wasn't his because he had gotten fixed and they gotten it tested and stuff.
[09:03:10]  And then they broke up and because she just wouldn't stop cheating on him.
[09:03:14]  And then California stuck him with the child support bill.
[09:03:18]  Because two or more years, if you're raising someone's kid in California, you are stuck with the child support bill.
[09:03:23]  Wait, so it's not his kid?
[09:03:24]  Not his kid.
[09:03:25]  They let him.
[09:03:27]  He thought it was.
[09:03:27]  But he committed to raising that kid at that point.
[09:03:30]  So I'm like.
[09:03:31]  But she didn't.
[09:03:32]  Wait, just to be clear, she tricked him.
[09:03:34]  She cheated on him with the pool boy.
[09:03:35]  They had a pool.
[09:03:37]  A literal pool boy.
[09:03:38]  And he was like being a nicer person.
[09:03:40]  He didn't want to kick her out.
[09:03:41]  He like, you know, because she was pregnant.
[09:03:43]  That was his wife.
[09:03:44]  He was stupid.
[09:03:45]  Two years later, she continued to cheat.
[09:03:47]  He said, get out of here.
[09:03:48]  And then she took him to court.
[09:03:50]  $5,000 a month he had to pay.
[09:03:52]  And then they let him move to another state.
[09:03:54]  So he didn't get to see this kid either.
[09:03:56]  Well, this is definitely something that happened.
[09:03:58]  So if even if the kid's not biologically yours, but you are bamboozled and the woman cheated and you were acting as if you were the father, then yeah, you can be on the hook for child support.
[09:04:12]  For a kid that isn't even yours, that is ridiculous.
[09:04:18]  I don't think that that should be the case.
[09:04:20]  They have to change the laws.
[09:04:23]  Child support laws are very anti-male, at least in that regard.
[09:04:27]  That was in California.
[09:04:29]  Okay, but alimony.
[09:04:31]  I think you could maybe make an argument that like if the woman gave up her career.
[09:04:38]  I feel like I did that.
[09:04:39]  Like I like helped my ex-husband get through special forces and like I did all my nursing prereqs with kids and I was like, okay, it's not realistic to have a husband that is gone all the time in trainings and then I like I want to be at home with my kids.
[09:04:53]  So I definitely feel like I put myself on the back burner to support him.
[09:04:56]  And then I felt like in the end it did screw me over a little bit.
[09:04:59]  A lot of it.
[09:05:01]  Yeah, I mean I think that there are some compelling arguments as to alimony, but there should be a limited scope of it.
[09:05:08]  I agree.
[09:05:09]  So I don't think in any scenario.
[09:05:11]  It's a stepping stone to help them.
[09:05:12]  Yeah.
[09:05:13]  I don't think like I three years ought to be the max.
[09:05:20]  Like, I don't see beyond three years, okay, you've been separated for this amount of time.
[09:05:26]  I can't understand a reason why you need to have some perpetual financial obligation to a woman.
[09:05:33]  Like, should I should men get like one blow job a month from her?
[09:05:39]  No, because if you've been, but hold on.
[09:05:42]  As a man, it's, you know, once I'm in my 40s, it's harder for me to get blow jobs.
[09:05:48]  You know, it's harder to date as a man once you're older, and I don't have as much access to BJs, you know, so maybe once a month, you know, she could give a blowy.
[09:05:59]  Well, no, because I think if you've been married, let's say like 10, 15 years, you're developing like a skill set as a man or you're getting education.
[09:06:05]  So like you're able to make significantly more money.
[09:06:09]  So I think to just be like, okay, well, you just put 15 years of your life or however long, I'm just saying, you know, on the side.
[09:06:16]  But this is...
[09:06:17]  And now I'm going to give you three years to make up for that.
[09:06:19]  I think three years is totally fine.
[09:06:20]  That should be enough for somebody to get back on their feet.
[09:06:22]  But this assumes that all women who get married are genius IQ women that had they not gotten married, they would have invented, they would have had a billion dollar idea and they would have been the CEO of the company.
[09:06:39]  Or could it be that a woman was a waitress when you met her and her life circumstances probably would not have changed substantially had you not married her.
[09:06:49]  From my perspective, this woman, if you've been married to her for 10 years, who was a waitress when you met her, she actually, her life circumstances have she didn't have to pay rent for the entire time.
[09:07:01]  That seems like quite a privilege, quite a benefit that she received.
[09:07:07]  She didn't have to pay for anything during this entire time.
[09:07:11]  She can go right back to being a waitress where she, like, she can go right back to doing what she was doing.
[09:07:17]  Or say she's a hairdresser.
[09:07:19]  Okay, you didn't do hair.
[09:07:21]  Okay, you didn't do hairdressing.
[09:07:23]  Here's three years of alimony.
[09:07:25]  Should you get 20 years of alimony?
[09:07:27]  That's ridiculous.
[09:07:28]  Well, to reverse engineer the argument, I mean, the same can be said for women who delay settling down in their 20s and then want to settle down in their 30s or 40s, where it's like you don't have pity or remorse for a woman who can't get a good man at that age.
[09:07:39]  Likewise, if a man ends up throwing away a marriage, as happened in Hannah's case, it's like, well, he doesn't get pity or sympathy for having thrown away something where she invested her youth into him.
[09:07:50]  She committed to him and he wanted to just find something else, basically.
[09:07:54]  So if a woman is pursuing in her 20s a billionaire and never gets it and then grows old, no one has pity for her.
[09:08:01]  Likewise, if a man took advantage of a woman's youth who committed to him.
[09:08:04]  How is it taking advantage of a woman?
[09:08:06]  Well, if you, if she gave you children, she committed herself to you.
[09:08:10]  If she gave you a child.
[09:08:10]  It's a beautiful thing.
[09:08:11]  That's not taking advantage of you.
[09:08:12]  But then why would you throw it away when you already have a career, you're already successful, you're already stabilized?
[09:08:18]  She should enjoy the fruits that she grew with you.
[09:08:20]  It's a joint effort.
[09:08:21]  Yeah, that's a good idea.
[09:08:22]  That's why women want the security of marriage.
[09:08:25]  Yeah.
[09:08:26]  So, I mean, if the.
[09:08:28]  If you want us to be submissive and like, like, in that sense, like, for real, and like be the wife that can, like, stay at home, take care of the things, take care of the kids, and help you further your career, I think it's fair to say, hey, if something goes awry, I think you should help me get back on my feet.
[09:08:44]  Just on top of that, if someone breaks a contract of marriage, you should be penalized for having broken that contract, whether it's the man or a woman.
[09:08:51]  Well, hold on.
[09:08:51]  Some states do not.
[09:08:52]  I don't recall perhaps all the details, Hannah.
[09:08:55]  So your ex-husband, you were married, correct?
[09:08:58]  Yeah.
[09:08:58]  And he cheated on you or what happened there?
[09:09:00]  No, there was just a lot of substance abuse.
[09:09:02]  Like when I left.
[09:09:03]  You were using substance or him?
[09:09:05]  No, him.
[09:09:07]  When I left, our electricity was getting turned off.
[09:09:10]  Our phones were getting shut off.
[09:09:11]  So I went and stayed with my best friend's mom.
[09:09:12]  And then my aunt drove out, paid for the gas to get out to Utah.
[09:09:16]  This case he, it seems like he doesn't have any money to pay alimony anyways.
[09:09:20]  Is that yeah, I mean, or he's not in a good financial position?
[09:09:24]  Well yes um, but again, I still think three years is more than enough time.
[09:09:29]  But I mean uh Angelica, if a woman say the woman is the cause of the breakup of the relationship, say she cheats the current uh, legal landscape, the man still has to pay her alimony, I know, still has to pay her money.
[09:09:44]  See, I don't agree with that exactly.
[09:09:45]  I know one of my best friends that just happened to them.
[09:09:48]  There were two couples and they were all friends and the couples like, had an affair.
[09:09:53]  It's evil.
[09:09:54]  And she she, he ended up still having to pay her out, give her alimony, give her child support, and I feel like he got screwed in that situation evil.
[09:10:00]  But I do think though, if a woman say, prior to entering the marriage, say she wasn't on some pathway to becoming some major ceo and she was living paycheck to paycheck, working a minimum wage job, you divorce her, she divorces you.
[09:10:16]  It's a return to one's previous standing, really.
[09:10:20]  Um, but who so?
[09:10:22]  Uh, the pizza place is closed, but I, I have bagel bites.
[09:10:25]  Who wants some bagel bites I got.
[09:10:28]  I made some bagel bites okay, and there's two more in the freezer, if anybody.
[09:10:32]  I mean there's only like nine in the package.
[09:10:34]  Are they gluten-free?
[09:10:35]  Just kidding, i'm just kidding, what's that?
[09:10:37]  Are they gluten free?
[09:10:38]  Um okay, your most memorable dating uh, the largest home developer in Utah.
[09:10:44]  He was 25 years old.
[09:10:45]  He managed to keep oh, excuse me, you're excuse me uh, he was 25 years older than you age gap.
[09:10:53]  He managed to keep you under wraps for a year and a half.
[09:10:56]  You were building a home together and it was just a couple months from being finished.
[09:10:59]  After one and a half years, you finally met his youngest daughter, who was 18 at the time, with your two kids.
[09:11:05]  The next day, you got a butt out from him with another woman.
[09:11:08]  No yeah, that was really hard, damn.
[09:11:12]  And you recorded the convo.
[09:11:13]  Yeah, went viral.
[09:11:16]  Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
[09:11:17]  Wait he.
[09:11:18]  So it was a like uh, voicemail.
[09:11:21]  He was leaving.
[09:11:22]  I was in a car with another woman and I like, kind of, by the grace of god, my little sister was actually visiting and so when I real, I thought it was like maybe an employee or a realtor that he was talking to and then, based on all the things he was saying, like let me see your panties.
[09:11:37]  I was like, oh no, that's not an employee, wow.
[09:11:39]  So I told my little sister.
[09:11:40]  I was like Elizabeth, give me your phone, give me your phone.
[09:11:42]  So I recorded it and then okay um, got out of the car literally within two seconds of hanging up, gives me a call.
[09:11:51]  And then just I was like, what age?
[09:11:53]  Oh yeah, what age were you when you started dating him?
[09:11:56]  Uh, it was a year and a half ago ended.
[09:11:58]  So what?
[09:11:59]  Am I 33, like I think it was.
[09:12:01]  I remember I just had turned 30 and he was like he made comments like it just sounds better that you're 30.
[09:12:06]  just sounds better that you're 30.
[09:12:08]  i had i know this is like crazy i had zero interest in dating him because of the age gap i've always been drawn to like a little bit older just because of maturity wise especially with being married for eight years yeah having two kids like i don't like see myself marrying a 22 year old right but i he definitely when i say like grooming it very much felt like grooming where he definitely Latched onto my situation.
[09:12:29]  Full-time single mom definitely flexed his job and stability, and we became just friends.
[09:12:36]  Like, I know it sounds so weird, but he would literally ask me to meet in Maverick parking lot.
[09:12:40]  We'd just talk for hours.
[09:12:42]  He wasn't trying to be our friend.
[09:12:44]  Hold on, let me let me just ask you.
[09:12:45]  He was putting in work.
[09:12:47]  Okay, what age were you when you started date when you met him?
[09:12:51]  I think I was 29, and then I turned 30.
[09:12:54]  What age was he?
[09:12:54]  He was 56, I want to say 56.
[09:12:58]  Okay, so 25 years.
[09:12:59]  And you said it was borderline grooming.
[09:13:01]  I mean, you're 30 years old.
[09:13:03]  I don't think.
[09:13:04]  No, no, I get, but I just mean like this is grooming.
[09:13:07]  I mean, like, in the sense that I think he took advantage of my situation and knew what he was doing, and I was in this, like, oh, I like talking to this guy.
[09:13:15]  Wouldn't you be taking advantage of your situation, having better looks, only being 29 years old?
[09:13:20]  Like, you can look at it from the other way around, though.
[09:13:22]  I mean, financially.
[09:13:23]  Wait, he was taking advantage of you financially?
[09:13:25]  I'm living in a very unfortunate financial position with my kids.
[09:13:29]  Wait, did you move in together with him?
[09:13:30]  No.
[09:13:31]  Were you living with him?
[09:13:32]  Was it no?
[09:13:33]  Oh, okay.
[09:13:34]  No, but he...
[09:13:35]  Wait, can we distribute the bagel bites?
[09:13:38]  Who wants a bagel bite?
[09:13:39]  Show of hands.
[09:13:40]  We're going to have to probably do all of them.
[09:13:43]  Maybe.
[09:13:43]  We can make more of a badge.
[09:13:45]  Okay, you're each going to get, I think, like one right now.
[09:13:48]  But we have like...
[09:13:49]  Count me out.
[09:13:49]  We have more.
[09:13:50]  We have more.
[09:13:51]  Okay.
[09:13:52]  Joy, you don't use dating apps.
[09:13:53]  You meet everyone organically in a grocery store, work, hobbies.
[09:13:56]  You met your ex at work, and it was a great two years until it wasn't.
[09:14:01]  Wait, scoot into the table.
[09:14:02]  Scoot into the table.
[09:14:03]  Let me blast through this.
[09:14:04]  This is your number.
[09:14:07]  Yeah.
[09:14:08]  Yeah, that was it.
[09:14:09]  Okay, you meet everyone.
[09:14:10]  That was my first boyfriend.
[09:14:12]  But when you say you meet everyone organically, do they come up to you or do you go up to them?
[09:14:18]  I only went up to two guys.
[09:14:21]  Did you eat all the bagel bites?
[09:14:23]  Oh, well, before we start a new one, why don't we distribute what we have?
[09:14:27]  Please.
[09:14:29]  Which is like seven bagels bites.
[09:14:33]  Okay.
[09:14:34]  So do you go up to them or do they go up to you?
[09:14:36]  My last boyfriend, no.
[09:14:39]  I liked him, but he always looked like strange, like just kind of walking around like he just wasn't into anybody.
[09:14:46]  So I asked his friend to kind of ask him to hit me up or tell his friend that I liked him type deal.
[09:14:53]  Like just put it on the plate and just laid over and then we have bagel bites.
[09:15:01]  Just and we'll pass around the plate.
[09:15:03]  I think he's like interrupting you about the bagel bites.
[09:15:05]  Like a joint.
[09:15:06]  Yeah.
[09:15:07]  I think Brian is hangry right now.
[09:15:09]  Bring bagel bite.
[09:15:10]  No, I'm serious.
[09:15:11]  I'm not going to have to.
[09:15:13]  I'm not going to have any.
[09:15:14]  It's all for you guys.
[09:15:14]  Wait, did you say joint?
[09:15:15]  Are we allowed to do that here?
[09:15:16]  Or is this not the Howard Stern show?
[09:15:18]  Oh, my God.
[09:15:19]  What?
[09:15:19]  No, I was saying I told him to put the bagel bites on a plate and then we'll pass it around the plate with the bagel bites like a joint.
[09:15:29]  Oh, okay.
[09:15:32]  Why is the bagel bites situation so complicated right now?
[09:15:35]  I'm just, okay.
[09:15:37]  Do you smoke weed?
[09:15:38]  Yeah.
[09:15:38]  Here, just pass it to Shona.
[09:15:40]  She'll pass them around.
[09:15:43]  All right.
[09:15:43]  Well, we have like a bunch more packages, so we'll open up more.
[09:15:46]  I know it seems like poverty, right?
[09:15:49]  It's like we're fucking five fish.
[09:15:53]  What is the we're rationing fucking.
[09:15:59]  Yo, this is what we do at the whatever podcast studio.
[09:16:01]  We're rationing fucking.
[09:16:03]  Wait, really?
[09:16:05]  Oh, then pass it back because she wants more.
[09:16:07]  We're rationing bagel bites.
[09:16:09]  What's the bagel bites?
[09:16:10]  They aren't even heated up.
[09:16:11]  Wait, they're not hot?
[09:16:12]  No.
[09:16:13]  Wait, they're not hot.
[09:16:14]  The cheese isn't even mouthed.
[09:16:15]  No, it's warm enough.
[09:16:16]  Are they hot?

=== Craigslist Cuckolding Scams (11:24) ===

[09:16:17]  This way, this way, this way.
[09:16:18]  I microwaved it for the appropriate.
[09:16:21]  It's like warm, like not hot, but I microwaved it for like the suggested.
[09:16:26]  Objections if I, that was a, you know that was a terrible pass.
[09:16:28]  They went from there.
[09:16:30]  We skipped the rotation.
[09:16:31]  Yeah, go ahead, take a look it up, bro.
[09:16:33]  Okay um Anna Anna, you say if a man is cheap and it has the she's just trying to mooch off of me mentality, it's immediate.
[09:16:41]  No, for you that's not a man.
[09:16:43]  If you can't afford to date, then just say it.
[09:16:44]  You're an independent woman, but you want a provider, not a leech.
[09:16:48]  Yes, you're an independent woman but you want to provide.
[09:16:53]  Can you say that in your own terms?
[09:16:55]  Can you just say that sentence?
[09:16:56]  Oh, simplified that ghost.
[09:16:58]  Don't stop.
[09:16:59]  Sorry sorry sorry um, because I want, I want a man to provide.
[09:17:05]  I've no, but say the word used.
[09:17:07]  Wait, say what I want.
[09:17:10]  I'm an independent woman, I am, but going into a relationship, I would like my man to provide, or at least being able to not leech off of me and provide for okay, that's different, but uh, typically a provider that somebody is providing for you.
[09:17:25]  If you're you're an independent woman.
[09:17:27]  You would thus be dependent on the provider.
[09:17:30]  Man well, I guess technically, not really, because I could, like I said earlier, I literally have just dumped guys because I don't need them.
[09:17:37]  So that's, technically, you could be an independent woman, but it is more beneficial for you for the man to spend all his money for your benefit.
[09:17:46]  So I technically yes, I literally said that I would pay for dates at one.
[09:17:49]  Sweet, if I make seven figures a year.
[09:17:51]  If I make seven figures a year, it would be more beneficial for me to like date a woman who makes 10 like uh, 10 million dollars a year and she pays for everything like that.
[09:18:01]  I'm still technically have the capacity for independence, but she should pay for the shit.
[09:18:07]  Okay, I get it.
[09:18:08]  You dated a craigslist killer in San Diego.
[09:18:12]  You didn't know he was a craigslist killer until you saw his mug shot on facebook pop up.
[09:18:17]  So when you met him, he was on bail and you had no idea.
[09:18:20]  He just disappeared and then one day his mug shot popped up.
[09:18:27]  So it was like, did you smash?
[09:18:28]  No, it was one.
[09:18:30]  It was a one-time date.
[09:18:31]  There were no.
[09:18:32]  So we met his body?
[09:18:35]  No, so we met at a brewery.
[09:18:37]  He was actually studying.
[09:18:38]  He said he was in med school.
[09:18:39]  This is like 12 years ago.
[09:18:40]  He said he was in med school studying his victims, literally.
[09:18:43]  So like taking out the hidden trail.
[09:18:45]  No, this is actually scary.
[09:18:46]  But you went on one date with him.
[09:18:48]  No, we kind of hung out we weren't like a like dating series, but we were talking you know what I mean and like kind of getting to know each other, okay and then he had this really weird obsession with cuck holding very weird, okay.
[09:18:59]  What is cuckholding?
[09:19:00]  Uh, what like wanting to see your girl get fucked by another guy yeah, and so that's when I was like i'm done with this guy and I like backed off because it was just ugh.
[09:19:09]  So all of a sudden, like we would, he would like message me on snapchat and I would be nice and respond, but I stopped hanging out with him because of it.
[09:19:17]  Okay well, that's the scariest part about the cuck holding thing, because when his mug shop and I it was the longest article of my life he um was in search of a cuck holding situation in on Craigslist and they were actually trying to tie him to other Craigslist killings, not just this one and this.
[09:19:35]  As the story goes.
[09:19:36]  He was trying to find a cuck Cold on Craigslist, and he found this man who wasn't like a trans woman.
[09:19:44]  Like he literally called himself a cross-dresser.
[09:19:46]  Like he was literally a man in a wig.
[09:19:48]  Pretended to be a couple talking to him.
[09:19:51]  Well, he finally confessed and said, Hey, I'm actually not this couple.
[09:19:54]  It's just me.
[09:19:55]  I'm a man that likes to dress up like women.
[09:19:57]  He stopped talking to him two days later.
[09:19:59]  He said, I want my, I'll do anything.
[09:20:01]  I want my fantasy.
[09:20:03]  And he went over there and murdered that man in a wig.
[09:20:07]  Bloodprint.
[09:20:08]  This is what gets me.
[09:20:10]  This is what gets me.
[09:20:11]  Bloodprint.
[09:20:12]  His fingerprints with blood were everywhere.
[09:20:14]  And for some reason, the state of California let him out on bail.
[09:20:17]  He was on bail for five years.
[09:20:19]  In prison?
[09:20:19]  No, no, that's why I found out.
[09:20:21]  He killed somebody.
[09:20:22]  But he didn't do this while I met him.
[09:20:23]  He did it five years previously.
[09:20:25]  And he's out on bail for five years, like looking for cockholding situations.
[09:20:29]  That's terrifying.
[09:20:30]  Okay, you once went on a three-year sabbatical from dating.
[09:20:33]  So no touching, no kissing, anything with men.
[09:20:35]  And then the year that you started dating every date back to back to back was wild, including one time you were at the guy's house and a girl started pounding on his door and he instantly pretended to fall asleep and then she kicked the door down.
[09:20:48]  Yes.
[09:20:50]  That was my first date after not touching a man for three years, by the way.
[09:20:53]  And wait, so on the three-year dating sabbatical, so you were celibate during that period of time.
[09:20:59]  During the three years, you were totally celibate.
[09:21:02]  Is that correct?
[09:21:02]  Yep, totally.
[09:21:03]  Like, wouldn't even like handshake a man.
[09:21:05]  Nothing.
[09:21:05]  Nothing.
[09:21:06]  All right, look at that.
[09:21:06]  We got more fucking bagel bites.
[09:21:08]  We can pass it.
[09:21:10]  Brian.
[09:21:10]  It's not.
[09:21:12]  What is this?
[09:21:12]  Tritrailer Park?
[09:21:13]  Like, we, we fucking.
[09:21:15]  This one's harder.
[09:21:16]  It's hot.
[09:21:16]  We put it in for the designated amount of time, so I don't know.
[09:21:20]  Maybe that's some fucking mutants.
[09:21:22]  That's some mutants fucking cheese.
[09:21:24]  Hey, those are good, though.
[09:21:25]  I did have those.
[09:21:26]  They're fucking yummy.
[09:21:27]  They're grub.
[09:21:28]  Okay, so the three-year dating sabbatical.
[09:21:31]  I don't want any.
[09:21:33]  Back that way.
[09:21:34]  That's how you do it.
[09:21:36]  No, I don't want any.
[09:21:37]  It's for you guys.
[09:21:38]  I'm good.
[09:21:39]  I ate kosher.
[09:21:40]  Any of you guys?
[09:21:41]  But eat the food.
[09:21:41]  I don't think any of you are eating any.
[09:21:44]  Okay, go ahead, Shona.
[09:21:45]  They're all for you.
[09:21:46]  Go ahead.
[09:21:46]  Pig out.
[09:21:47]  Pig out.
[09:21:48]  Okay, the three-year dating sabbatical.
[09:21:51]  You were totally celibate, correct?
[09:21:52]  Yep.
[09:21:54]  What was the turning point to stopping your sabbatical?
[09:21:57]  Well, I didn't have sex with this guy.
[09:21:59]  I just started dating.
[09:22:00]  When I say sabbatical, I didn't go on dates.
[09:22:02]  I didn't talk to guys.
[09:22:03]  I didn't go on dating apps.
[09:22:04]  You had no sex for three years.
[09:22:05]  For three years.
[09:22:06]  Yeah, nothing.
[09:22:07]  These were just dates.
[09:22:08]  These are like my first dates.
[09:22:09]  Like, this was like getting myself back into the dating scene.
[09:22:11]  Wait, so when did your, when did it start?
[09:22:13]  What year did it start?
[09:22:14]  21.
[09:22:16]  Okay, so that's like five years ago.
[09:22:18]  So to 24.
[09:22:20]  Did you, you broke your streak, though?
[09:22:22]  For a guy I was dating that I knew for over a year.
[09:22:25]  Yeah.
[09:22:25]  Can I ask you a question?
[09:22:28]  Wait, let me think.
[09:22:31]  How quickly did you wait for the guy you broke your streak with?
[09:22:39]  I think like a year, year and a half.
[09:22:42]  Whoa.
[09:22:42]  Whoa, wait, hold on.
[09:22:44]  We were friends first.
[09:22:45]  We met as friends.
[09:22:46]  And then like one day he confessed his love.
[09:22:48]  Okay, yeah.
[09:22:49]  So after he confessed, after he confessed his love, how soon after that did you guys have cardinal knowledge?
[09:22:59]  A couple weeks.
[09:23:01]  But like I said, we'd been hanging out for like 18 months, getting to know each other.
[09:23:04]  He wasn't a random guy.
[09:23:06]  You knew him a bit.
[09:23:07]  Like I trusted him because he was like my friend first kind of thing.
[09:23:10]  But during the sabbatical, was there any dating?
[09:23:13]  Like were you hanging out with men?
[09:23:15]  Yeah.
[09:23:16]  Okay.
[09:23:17]  I wasn't even on dating apps.
[09:23:18]  I didn't even hug, shake hands.
[09:23:21]  I'm actually like that now.
[09:23:22]  I'm not dating either.
[09:23:24]  Okay.
[09:23:24]  And then prior to.
[09:23:26]  Hmm.
[09:23:28]  Damn, she's munching down on this.
[09:23:30]  Okay.
[09:23:31]  Get it, girl.
[09:23:32]  ASMR.
[09:23:33]  I was thinking, like, how much would it suck, though?
[09:23:36]  Like, let's say you were dating during that celibacy period.
[09:23:38]  So, you're still dating, but not sleeping with any of the men.
[09:23:41]  And some guy was like, Oh, I'm going to hold out.
[09:23:43]  I'm going to wait six months.
[09:23:45]  And then, like, you break and then you decide to break your celibacy and then you just like fuck a guy right away.
[09:23:51]  Like, how fucking terrible would it be if a woman tells you she's been celibate for three years, she's not doing anything, and then you've been dating her for three months, she breaks up with you, she decides to end her celibacy streak, and then she fucks a guy a week later.
[09:24:08]  Not saying you did that, no, I like I said, this guy was my friend.
[09:24:12]  Yeah, holy fuck.
[09:24:12]  Okay, I actually dumped him.
[09:24:14]  Like, it was like we were like really good friends, and then we dated for like two weeks, and then I dumped him.
[09:24:20]  Like, he just wasn't, I wasn't, he was not, he was a good friend.
[09:24:22]  He was a horrible friend.
[09:24:23]  You met a guy like an Australian, that famous Australian dude.
[09:24:27]  Yeah, can you say who?
[09:24:28]  Or well, he was an Australian, like kind of like the Justin Timberlake at the Mickey Mouse Club.
[09:24:33]  He was a childhood movie star.
[09:24:36]  Yeah, yeah.
[09:24:36]  Well, my Australian friends were like, You used to date him.
[09:24:38]  We used to watch his show growing up.
[09:24:39]  It was like the Mickey Mouse Club of Australia.
[09:24:41]  They're gonna figure out who it is.
[09:24:42]  His name's Matt Healy.
[09:24:44]  Hi, Matt.
[09:24:45]  Oh, shit.
[09:24:45]  Wait, let me google this.
[09:24:47]  Was he somebody that you used to know?
[09:24:50]  Yeah.
[09:24:50]  Okay.
[09:24:51]  But we met at an intersection in San Diego and like, it's one of those things where we were like, hey, you come here.
[09:24:58]  Australian?
[09:24:58]  He was Aussie, yeah.
[09:24:59]  And so my Aussie friends are like, you used to date him.
[09:25:01]  Like, we used to watch his show group.
[09:25:04]  No, it was a, it was like, it was like the Mickey Mouse Club of Australia.
[09:25:07]  You're going to have to look like back into the 90s.
[09:25:10]  I think that's what I was thinking was the musician.
[09:25:16]  Yeah, he wasn't shit.
[09:25:17]  We can't find him.
[09:25:18]  Well, Australian, all my Australian friends said they knew him.
[09:25:21]  I can't find anything on.
[09:25:24]  All of my Australian friends were like, you dated him.
[09:25:26]  We used to watch his show growing up.
[09:25:27]  That's hilarious.
[09:25:28]  Was he about your age?
[09:25:29]  Yeah.
[09:25:30]  Okay, whatever.
[09:25:31]  I don't need to look it up.
[09:25:32]  But you said he whisked you, whisked you around the world for a year, and that was pretty romantic.
[09:25:39]  Yeah, so we saw each other at an intersection in San Diego.
[09:25:42]  Kind of, we pulled an all-nighter, not in the sex sense, just we hung out until like three in the morning.
[09:25:46]  And then he was flying off to Dallas.
[09:25:48]  He got my number.
[09:25:49]  We started talking morning, noon, and night.
[09:25:51]  Three months later, he wanted to come to California to California.
[09:25:54]  I was living in California at the time.
[09:25:56]  He wanted to come.
[09:25:58]  I said no because this is ridiculous.
[09:26:00]  Like, I have two kids.
[09:26:01]  I live here.
[09:26:01]  You live there, et cetera.
[09:26:03]  Two days later, knock on my door.
[09:26:05]  There he is.
[09:26:06]  And he took me like lavishly all around San Diego for New Year's.
[09:26:10]  And then he said, I have a surprise for you.
[09:26:12]  Now, New Year's is December 31st.
[09:26:14]  My birthday is January 10th.
[09:26:16]  He said, I'm going to go back to Australia.
[09:26:18]  And in a couple of weeks, you are meeting me in Hawaii.
[09:26:20]  And we went on a two-week trip, lavish trip to Hawaii, like all over.
[09:26:25]  And then like six months later, he's like, we he's like, I either want to move to America or I want you to come to Australia, but I think I'm going to move to America, but I want you to meet my family.
[09:26:36]  So I bought a ticket, which was $2,000 because I wanted to show him that I was serious about this.
[09:26:43]  And he had been paying for everything.
[09:26:45]  So I bought a ticket, took time off work, you know, got the kids arrange, et cetera, et cetera.
[09:26:50]  And like a week before the trip, he's like, don't come here anymore.
[09:26:53]  And like dropped off the face of the earth.
[09:26:55]  Well, at the time, I was working for this really wealthy family.
[09:26:58]  I was a nanny at the time.
[09:27:00]  And they were like, fuck that, dude.
[09:27:01]  You're like family to us.
[09:27:02]  I'm sending my wife with you and I'm paying for everything.
[09:27:05]  And so we ended up going over there and like climbing the Sydney Harbor Bridge, like going to Arras Rock in the middle of the Outback.
[09:27:13]  And he said, my boss said to me, I'm sorry.
[09:27:17]  You know, sometimes like, sometimes women will like include irrelevant information in a story.
[09:27:23]  Sorry, go ahead.
[09:27:24]  Sorry.
[09:27:24]  Sorry.
[09:27:25]  Well, I'm not done.
[09:27:26]  You're cutting me off.
[09:27:26]  Did I just say that?
[09:27:27]  You're not done?
[09:27:30]  This is like, okay, we were hiking in the Outback.
[09:27:34]  I'm just saying, I don't know if we don't know if we need that information, but okay, he took you to Hawaii.

=== Back Sex Culture Shock (05:39) ===

[09:27:41]  Sorry, I'm being sassy.
[09:27:42]  I apologize.
[09:27:43]  Yes, I'm a dickhead.
[09:27:44]  Well, there was a point to that for me saying all this because he did.
[09:27:47]  Okay, land the plane land the plane.
[09:27:49]  So he then sees that I'm in Australia because he had no idea that I was going to still come because he told me not to come.
[09:27:55]  And he begs me to see him.
[09:27:57]  I hate it when my girlfriend says that.
[09:27:59]  What?
[09:27:59]  Don't come.
[09:28:01]  Just let it happen.
[09:28:03]  Shit.
[09:28:04]  And my bad.
[09:28:06]  Okay, sorry.
[09:28:07]  Okay.
[09:28:08]  Bad joke.
[09:28:08]  Bad joke.
[09:28:09]  Oh, she's snorting over here.
[09:28:11]  Oh, my goodness.
[09:28:14]  You okay, Angelica?
[09:28:16]  You get all right.
[09:28:17]  She's good.
[09:28:18]  She's good.
[09:28:22]  What else happened in Australia?
[09:28:24]  So, anyways, my boss said, if you leave my wife for this guy, even if this were a few hours, I'm going to fire you.
[09:28:31]  So she left a week before I did.
[09:28:33]  And then that's when he and I got together.
[09:28:34]  I just needed closure, to be honest with you.
[09:28:36]  He wanted sex.
[09:28:37]  I turned him down.
[09:28:38]  He got a little bit of a picture.
[09:28:40]  He got pissed, took me to the airport, and just started bawling his eyes out and said I was the love of his life.
[09:28:46]  And I just got back on a plane and went home.
[09:28:49]  Angelica scooped to the table.
[09:28:51]  Is there edibles in these bagel bites?
[09:28:54]  Yes, they are weed-infused bagel bites.
[09:28:57]  That was amazing.
[09:28:58]  I'm just kidding.
[09:28:59]  So much.
[09:29:00]  Man, that's a good, that's great, though.
[09:29:03]  I feel like after dating him, do you find it difficult to date normal guys who didn't give you that princess treatment?
[09:29:10]  I feel like if a girl, like, okay, I feel like there's a degree of when it comes to dating, like, let's say you date a really rich guy.
[09:29:17]  Maybe there's a bit of a not culture shock, but there's a shock to like, you go from dating like a super wealthy guy who jets you around and he buys you gifts and he takes you to all these nice restaurants and he does XYZ and then you go date the guy who works at Walmart.
[09:29:32]  It's like, that's a bit of a culture shock.
[09:29:35]  Like it's a bit of a, like, I don't know.
[09:29:37]  If I was dating a hot chick and then I dated a fat chick.
[09:29:45]  It's rough.
[09:29:46]  It's how do you go back?
[09:29:47]  How do you go back?
[09:29:48]  It's like, it's like, how about this?
[09:29:50]  You date a woman dates a guy who lives in a dorm room.
[09:29:54]  Maybe you guys went to college.
[09:29:56]  You went to the dorm room and this fucking, you got to put a sock on the door or whatever.
[09:30:00]  You got to be like, you got, and sometimes, let's be honest, ladies.
[09:30:05]  Have you ever fucked while your roommate was in the room?
[09:30:12]  Really?
[09:30:13]  Nobody's done that?
[09:30:13]  Why is she smiling?
[09:30:14]  Some of you have to do that.
[09:30:15]  I haven't had a roommate in here.
[09:30:17]  This is a college thing.
[09:30:18]  This is definitely a college thing, especially if you're in like a dorm.
[09:30:21]  But like, that's not right.
[09:30:22]  Come on now.
[09:30:23]  No, like, you should try, but like, it definitely happens.
[09:30:26]  Like, I don't know, at least from back in the day, people.
[09:30:29]  I don't know how friends do you have right on your project.
[09:30:31]  Yes.
[09:30:31]  I think it's a guy thing.
[09:30:32]  Girls, we don't have to do that.
[09:30:33]  But then it's like, imagine.
[09:30:35]  No, but imagine you're like either a guy or a girl, and you used to like have to fucking sneak around and shit to fuck.
[09:30:42]  And there was like your fucking roommate's past, like sleeping in the room while you're quietly trying to fuck in a bunk bed, in a triple bunk bed.
[09:30:51]  And then it's like then you date a guy or a woman.
[09:30:58]  They have their own house.
[09:31:01]  That's like fucking.
[09:31:02]  And then how can you go back to like from that?
[09:31:06]  Or even if you're just living, you're living in the house, you have your own house.
[09:31:09]  How do you go back to living, sharing a room with somebody?
[09:31:13]  You can't.
[09:31:14]  You can't do it.
[09:31:14]  So, like, in that same vein, how do you get flown around and some guy takes you to Hawaii?
[09:31:20]  How do you go back to like, well, because I went back to doing it for myself?
[09:31:24]  I'll take you to McDonald's for our anniversary.
[09:31:26]  How do you go back?
[09:31:27]  It's kind of like, you know what?
[09:31:30]  It's kind of like sex.
[09:31:31]  You know what I'm talking about, Panda.
[09:31:33]  What?
[09:31:33]  What?
[09:31:35]  What's that supposed to mean?
[09:31:36]  No, well, nothing, but you know, it's like sex.
[09:31:38]  It's like, once you've had really good sex, how do you go back, Hannah and Emily, and everybody?
[09:31:46]  No, I'm not picking on you.
[09:31:47]  I'm just trying to draw you guys in and get your attention.
[09:31:51]  How do you go back to bad sex?
[09:31:53]  Once you've had good sex, it's like that's the bar for what you want.
[09:31:58]  And it's like, if you go back, it's like once you've had a really good hamburger.
[09:32:02]  I saved the best for last.
[09:32:04]  I've gone back.
[09:32:05]  I've gone to Horror Matt after having it with better.
[09:32:07]  If you have a really good hamburger, really good steak, and then you're going to have like a Denny's steak or like a Denny's burger.
[09:32:14]  It's like, oh, fuck.
[09:32:15]  So it's like, it depends.
[09:32:17]  Like, once you've had a giant labia, it's like, how do you go back to like a woman with like an any?
[09:32:22]  It's just, you're fucked.
[09:32:23]  You're gigafucked.
[09:32:24]  Or like, no, no, no.
[09:32:24]  How about this?
[09:32:25]  A woman who, sorry, am I being autistic right now?
[09:32:28]  How, once you've, once you've had sex with a woman who's multi-orgasmic and can come like, I'm not even exaggerating, like five seconds, ten seconds later, ten seconds later.
[09:32:40]  And then you got to go back and have sex with a woman where it's like, you got to, her clitoris is a fucking Rubik's cube.
[09:32:49]  Like, how do you go back from like the girl who comes like this, easy, to the girl who it's like, bro, you gotta, you gotta do somersaults and like, you gotta, you know what?
[09:33:01]  Like, how do you go back to like fucking the girl who can't come?
[09:33:04]  Sometimes it's necessity.
[09:33:06]  How do you go back to fucking the girl who can't come once you've done dealt with a girl who's just like who's just fucking coming like crazy?
[09:33:17]  Sometimes you think, and so you throw out the window.

=== Circumcised Baby Backs (05:00) ===

[09:33:21]  Okay, anyways.
[09:33:21]  Someone's definitely lied to you before.
[09:33:23]  Final note from my homegirl over there in the corner, my labia plasty queen.
[09:33:30]  By the way, I'm just curious on the labia plasty, is there some remain?
[09:33:35]  Did they leave a little bit or is it they made it an any?
[09:33:39]  But there's a bit of lip left inside the lip.
[09:33:44]  Wait, you want the inner lips?
[09:33:45]  So labia minority.
[09:33:46]  Yes, you do.
[09:33:47]  He doesn't understand.
[09:33:48]  Yeah.
[09:33:49]  What?
[09:33:49]  Yeah.
[09:33:49]  Wait, no, what we, you know what?
[09:33:51]  No, this is what we've been talking about.
[09:33:53]  I'm just like a thick.
[09:33:54]  No, hell no.
[09:33:56]  Oh, okay.
[09:33:58]  But mine only came after I had a child.
[09:34:00]  I didn't have the lips.
[09:34:04]  Like a butterfly wing.
[09:34:06]  Like Arby's?
[09:34:08]  Butterfly wings.
[09:34:09]  Help me watch them have.
[09:34:11]  Yes, Arby's.
[09:34:13]  Help you understand it.
[09:34:15]  Does she understand this sexual performance, like in the act?
[09:34:18]  Does it really, really matter for you?
[09:34:20]  Like, does it feel better?
[09:34:21]  What is it?
[09:34:22]  Do you guys want the answer?
[09:34:23]  Yeah.
[09:34:24]  So it is visual, but also physically, it feels better.
[09:34:28]  For you.
[09:34:29]  Are you actually dead ass about this whole thing?
[09:34:32]  Are you like for a while?
[09:34:34]  Like lips.
[09:34:35]  Yeah, that was a joke.
[09:34:36]  So, okay, look, by the way, if a woman has a any group better because it's like weird.
[09:34:41]  An any, so okay.
[09:34:43]  An any is not a deal breaker.
[09:34:45]  I'll still date a woman with an any.
[09:34:47]  I'm a gentleman.
[09:34:48]  I'm nice like that.
[09:34:49]  You were the only one.
[09:34:49]  I'm just throwing you off a boat.
[09:34:51]  You know what?
[09:34:52]  There are some other men who also have this liking of white.
[09:34:57]  Probably bisexual.
[09:34:58]  I've never heard of that in my life.
[09:35:00]  Oh my God.
[09:35:01]  Back in my day, we called that beef curtain.
[09:35:04]  It feels like a woman equivalent to a woman saying she legitimately likes a small digging.
[09:35:09]  Oh, a circumcised.
[09:35:10]  Oh, like small diggings.
[09:35:12]  Wait, women do prefer circumcised.
[09:35:13]  Yeah.
[09:35:13]  Oh, no, sorry.
[09:35:14]  I don't care.
[09:35:15]  Sorry.
[09:35:16]  Oh, that's fair.
[09:35:18]  I think most women prefer circumcised.
[09:35:21]  Yeah.
[09:35:21]  But there's probably definitely women out there who...
[09:35:24]  Well, I think this would be somewhat geographic because in a lot of European countries, it's like that's what they're used to.
[09:35:31]  I think they still even prefer the circumcised stick.
[09:35:34]  What was your question, though?
[09:35:35]  Turtleneck.
[09:35:36]  No, I was just asking the idea.
[09:35:37]  Yeah, it would be like a woman who likes the uncut pee-pee.
[09:35:42]  Well, with that, did you have to do that?
[09:35:43]  That's kind of crazy.
[09:35:45]  And I don't see why it matters.
[09:35:46]  What's that?
[09:35:46]  I've had both, and I don't see why it matters.
[09:35:48]  I don't know.
[09:35:49]  What is going on to getting like dirty?
[09:35:50]  Well, when a guy is erect.
[09:35:51]  For a men, it's more pleasurable if they aren't cut.
[09:35:53]  When a guy is erect, my understanding is it's mostly the same.
[09:35:58]  There's a bit of extra skin, but it's mostly the same.
[09:36:01]  Well, they're removing the J-saw.
[09:36:04]  What was explained to me when I had my O-shot done?
[09:36:06]  Because then I asked about the men too.
[09:36:08]  A man, when they're not cut, is more sensitive because their skin is covering.
[09:36:13]  So, like, the rubbing that the guys get from their pants and their underwear, that makes it less sensitive if they're cut.
[09:36:19]  So, they actually say men are more pleasured who are not circumcised.
[09:36:24]  But it's so not.
[09:36:25]  You're removing the G-spot when you get circumcised.
[09:36:28]  And that's why they say it's up the butt now, but it's not up the button.
[09:36:30]  But actually, it's not.
[09:36:32]  It's very much an American.
[09:36:34]  And circumcision.
[09:36:35]  I agree.
[09:36:35]  We're going to ban circumcision and labia plasty.
[09:36:38]  We're going to bundle it together.
[09:36:39]  Support everyone who practices circumcision.
[09:36:41]  Solves all problems.
[09:36:43]  Did you know for the first time in decades?
[09:36:46]  Did you know for the first time in decades, America has less circumcisions this year than they have in decades?
[09:36:52]  Several times.
[09:36:54]  W America.
[09:36:55]  No circumcisions.
[09:36:56]  I just heard that.
[09:36:57]  Fuck circumcisions.
[09:36:58]  Okay, so anyways.
[09:36:59]  Wait, where were we?
[09:37:01]  You had a question about labia?
[09:37:03]  Yeah, like you, I just can't believe that that's for real.
[09:37:07]  In my day, we called that curtains.
[09:37:10]  Have you heard of beef curtains?
[09:37:11]  Send them your way.
[09:37:12]  Send them my way.
[09:37:13]  Send them.
[09:37:14]  It's like I want to make a Sir Mixalot baby about back song, but about labia.
[09:37:18]  No, you need to be able to do it.
[09:37:19]  Like you're not in your way, Brian.
[09:37:21]  Do you ask about it on your application?
[09:37:24]  You don't have to show us.
[09:37:25]  100 questions is definitely going to do it.
[09:37:27]  I got you.
[09:37:28]  It's like the scroll like that.
[09:37:30]  It is.
[09:37:30]  Okay.
[09:37:30]  It is on the application.
[09:37:32]  It is on the application.
[09:37:33]  Actually, I would personally prefer a woman should DM me and she should just be like, hi, Brian.
[09:37:38]  I want to have seven children.
[09:37:41]  I want to stay at home.
[09:37:42]  I want to do your laundry.
[09:37:44]  And I have a huge labia.
[09:37:46]  That's like the best opening list.
[09:37:47]  And I want to get it on the Aussie bar.
[09:37:50]  That is the best.
[09:37:51]  Look at those smiles.
[09:37:54]  Did you just say something really interesting?
[09:37:56]  So you prefer you, woman, not to work because you said that that's what you prefer.
[09:38:01]  She's going to be working in the house.
[09:38:02]  Yeah.
[09:38:03]  So you're going to use a woman to know what she's doing.
[09:38:04]  My gosh, shit, I got a backyard.
[09:38:06]  She's going to be working in that yard.
[09:38:08]  I'll tell you what.
[09:38:09]  She's going to be wobbling.
[09:38:10]  Do you think you're going to find yourself a trad wife who describes her genitalia to her to someone that she's not married to?
[09:38:16]  That's not going to happen.
[09:38:17]  All it takes is one, Riley.
[09:38:19]  That's not going to happen.
[09:38:20]  It's going to happen one of these days, I feel it.

=== Neck Tattoo Valorant (11:07) ===

[09:38:22]  Look, there's some.
[09:38:22]  Look.
[09:38:23]  I think you have some conflicting.
[09:38:26]  I'm just saying, like, the Sir Mixalot song, he's got a segment like, some dudes like to.
[09:38:33]  Hold on, let me look up.
[09:38:36]  Baby got back.
[09:38:36]  Hold on, baby.
[09:38:37]  Got back.
[09:38:38]  Lyrics.
[09:38:40]  My Anacana don't want none unless you got buns, huh?
[09:38:45]  No, that's literally Sir Mixalot.
[09:38:48]  Yeah, that's a mix of shit.
[09:38:48]  Yeah, it was so bad.
[09:38:50]  Yeah, that was a song.
[09:38:51]  No, it was way before.
[09:38:52]  Did I just age myself?
[09:38:55]  That's a sample.
[09:38:55]  That always got me to the high school.
[09:38:57]  Yeah.
[09:38:58]  I did, but he says, some brothers like to play that hard role and tell you that the butt ain't gold, so they toss it.
[09:39:05]  And I'm butchering this.
[09:39:07]  And I pull up quick to retrieve it.
[09:39:09]  That's me, but with labia.
[09:39:11]  I pull up quick to retrieve it.
[09:39:15]  Because I'm a.
[09:39:16]  Never mind.
[09:39:18]  I was about to say.
[09:39:19]  I've never been.
[09:39:22]  I love that for you.
[09:39:24]  You know what?
[09:39:24]  You know what I'm saying?
[09:39:25]  I'm from the hard streets of Santa Barbara.
[09:39:28]  From the hard streets, yo.
[09:39:30]  Are you from here?
[09:39:31]  I am from Santa Barbara.
[09:39:33]  Okay, so hold on.
[09:39:34]  Let me blast through this.
[09:39:35]  You've gotten nicer as the hours have progressed.
[09:39:37]  Is it the alcohol?
[09:39:39]  It's probably the alcohol.
[09:39:40]  Fucking Robert Tanner, if you're still alive.
[09:39:42]  Fucking Robert Tanner.
[09:39:44]  Sensor.
[09:39:45]  Three champagne pots.
[09:39:46]  Okay, the final thing from Anna.
[09:39:48]  Anna, woman deported, cheating husband story.
[09:39:52]  Tell us the quick version.
[09:39:53]  Yes.
[09:39:54]  So you deport, you got a man deported, a Mexican man deported because he was cheating.
[09:39:59]  Do we put a timer on her?
[09:40:01]  We should.
[09:40:02]  I don't think you have a say in this.
[09:40:05]  I think he does.
[09:40:06]  Anna, you have 67.
[09:40:07]  No, at this point, call it Wish.
[09:40:09]  You have 67 seconds.
[09:40:11]  Met a guy on a dating app.
[09:40:12]  This was after my sabbatical.
[09:40:14]  Went on one date with him.
[09:40:16]  It was weird.
[09:40:17]  He asked me to, he said he was working from out of town.
[09:40:20]  He asked me to pick him up.
[09:40:20]  He left his cell phone at the hotel.
[09:40:24]  So I thought that was kind of weird.
[09:40:25]  And then during dinner, he abruptly blurts out that he's married, but he swears to God that his wife does not care.
[09:40:31]  They have an open marriage.
[09:40:32]  I said, I don't care if you have an open marriage.
[09:40:33]  I'm not into that shit.
[09:40:34]  So goodbye.
[09:40:35]  I immediately ended the date.
[09:40:37]  Two weeks later, I get a text message from his wife because she must have been looking through his phone records or whatever.
[09:40:43]  And she called me, bawling her eyes out.
[09:40:45]  And she just said, I gave this man everything.
[09:40:47]  I bought him a car when he, like, she gave him a green card.
[09:40:50]  She put clothes on his, like, he came with absolutely nothing.
[09:40:53]  And she fed, housed, and now he's out on dates.
[09:40:58]  And then telling her that he, and then swearing up and down to me that he's, I swear.
[09:41:02]  Wait, I'm sorry.
[09:41:03]  Can I help here?
[09:41:04]  Man, bad.
[09:41:06]  Man did bad things.
[09:41:08]  What was the, so tell us the like quick deportation.
[09:41:12]  Well, so then she was like, well, my family's been telling me he's been using me for a green card.
[09:41:16]  Fuck this dude.
[09:41:16]  And in order for him to stay.
[09:41:18]  Man, bad.
[09:41:19]  Yeah.
[09:41:19]  In order for him to stay in the country.
[09:41:24]  When you do that, I can train.
[09:41:26]  What is wrong with you?
[09:41:27]  How dare you, Riley?
[09:41:28]  You're salty, Riley.
[09:41:31]  Riley.
[09:41:32]  He said 67.
[09:41:33]  Oh, my goodness, Riley.
[09:41:34]  As a conservative, Riley, who have you gotten deported?
[09:41:37]  No one.
[09:41:38]  No, that is true.
[09:41:40]  That is true.
[09:41:41]  I would not.
[09:41:42]  So, anyways, I didn't do this.
[09:41:44]  She called me.
[09:41:45]  She asked the details.
[09:41:47]  He was screwing with me and screwing with her.
[09:41:49]  I gave her the details.
[09:41:50]  And she said, in order for him to stay, like his green card is contingent upon our marriage being in good standing.
[09:41:56]  I guess in two weeks he had a marriage in good standing, like meet up with DHS.
[09:42:02]  I guess they have to like have these meetings every so often.
[09:42:04]  And she's like, I'm going to tell them everything that he did.
[09:42:06]  And this was like right as Trump 2.0 was, this was like last, like right as Trump was coming into office.
[09:42:13]  And so she went and did it.
[09:42:16]  Nice.
[09:42:18]  So he got deported.
[09:42:19]  Yeah.
[09:42:21]  Did they have kids?
[09:42:22]  No.
[09:42:23]  Okay.
[09:42:23]  He got deported, though.
[09:42:25]  I mean, think about it.
[09:42:27]  She gave this man everything.
[09:42:28]  I'm an illegal immigrant because I feel like that's a lot of leverage in that.
[09:42:33]  I'm kidding.
[09:42:34]  I'm kidding.
[09:42:35]  I would never have, even if I could have her deported, I wouldn't do it.
[09:42:41]  I wasn't, to be honest with you, I wasn't looking for that.
[09:42:44]  I was just answering her questions, and I was pissed at him too.
[09:42:47]  Like, he's wasting my time.
[09:42:48]  You know what I mean?
[09:42:49]  I answered my questions, led to her going to DHS and reporting him.
[09:42:54]  I'm going to deport fucking Tiffany.
[09:42:57]  I'm deporting her to Korea.
[09:43:00]  That girl over there who works for me.
[09:43:03]  I gave you the raw tomatoes.
[09:43:04]  No, hey, not all Asian people.
[09:43:08]  Not all Asian people look alike.
[09:43:10]  That was a different Asian woman.
[09:43:12]  I know.
[09:43:14]  But they have like three people.
[09:43:15]  No, I'm not.
[09:43:16]  She is Asian.
[09:43:17]  Her girlfriend.
[09:43:18]  Griselda.
[09:43:20]  You're 33?
[09:43:21]  33.
[09:43:22]  Question: When did you get the neck tattoo?
[09:43:25]  Probably like what, like six months ago?
[09:43:28]  Hold on.
[09:43:28]  Wait, wait, wait.
[09:43:30]  Whoa.
[09:43:35]  Oh, wait.
[09:43:35]  I didn't mean to send the asteroid.
[09:43:36]  I meant to.
[09:43:37]  Watch!
[09:43:38]  I guess it's okay, though.
[09:43:40]  I sent the asteroid at the ripe age of 33.
[09:43:45]  I was 32, but yeah.
[09:43:47]  I apologize.
[09:43:48]  You were 32.
[09:43:50]  You chose.
[09:43:51]  You thought.
[09:43:54]  You know what I need?
[09:43:56]  Do you have kids, by the way?
[09:43:58]  I do.
[09:43:58]  I have two.
[09:43:58]  Two girls.
[09:43:59]  How much is a neck tattoo?
[09:44:00]  How much does it cost?
[09:44:02]  Well, this one was what, like, probably 200 bucks?
[09:44:05]  That could have been a quinceinera.
[09:44:08]  No, that would be like 15 grand if you've been to a property.
[09:44:11]  It could have gone towards a quince in your tattoo.
[09:44:13]  And you spent your daughter's quinceinera money on a neck tattoo.
[09:44:20]  That's ridiculous.
[09:44:21]  Well, I didn't.
[09:44:22]  I can afford it.
[09:44:23]  I wouldn't, I wouldn't put myself in a bad.
[09:44:25]  32 and getting a neck tattoo.
[09:44:27]  Why not?
[09:44:28]  It's cute.
[09:44:29]  Yeah.
[09:44:29]  I get a lot of compliments on that.
[09:44:31]  Because they're lying to you.
[09:44:32]  No.
[09:44:33]  Your tie.
[09:44:34]  A tattoo is never an upgrade on a woman.
[09:44:36]  What about my tie?
[09:44:37]  Her butterfly tattoo was better.
[09:44:39]  Are you talking about Riley's fucking tattoo?
[09:44:41]  Oh, yeah.
[09:44:42]  I'm just talking powerfully.
[09:44:43]  Riley, you're talking too much.
[09:44:45]  Did you guys touch your tattoo?
[09:44:45]  Riley's talking to us.
[09:44:46]  Can I touch it?
[09:44:48]  Riley, you're talking too much.
[09:44:49]  I'm hoping you can't stop.
[09:44:50]  Your 67 seconds is up.
[09:44:52]  I'm actually commuting back and forth with somebody, actually.
[09:44:54]  Exactly.
[09:44:55]  I feel like how dare you so salty.
[09:44:58]  She get a tattoo, piercing, whatever.
[09:45:00]  Like, age is just a number.
[09:45:02]  It's tough.
[09:45:02]  I feel like, and what does it say?
[09:45:04]  What is the word there?
[09:45:06]  It says resilient and trauma.
[09:45:08]  Here you have.
[09:45:09]  I did it all together.
[09:45:10]  That's a sign for trauma.
[09:45:13]  Yeah.
[09:45:14]  Resilient.
[09:45:18]  If I saw a girl with a resilience here on her neck, I would think that she can give.
[09:45:25]  Yes.
[09:45:26]  I don't even want to say it, but okay.
[09:45:29]  But I don't know.
[09:45:30]  I just feel like...
[09:45:31]  Did your husband, was your husband on board?
[09:45:33]  Yeah.
[09:45:34]  Does he have tattoos?
[09:45:35]  None.
[09:45:36]  Oh, unless he's crazy.
[09:45:38]  So you're the one in charge.
[09:45:39]  Woman, yeah.
[09:45:40]  You're the one in charge in the relationship then.
[09:45:43]  I mean, not really.
[09:45:44]  Like I said, it's just a 50-50.
[09:45:46]  So he told you he approves, but does he approve?
[09:45:49]  I got to choose all my tattoos I got him while I was with him.
[09:45:52]  Like, he was okay with it.
[09:45:54]  You didn't get those when you were younger?
[09:45:56]  Huh?
[09:45:56]  You got a septum piercing?
[09:45:57]  Yeah, I got a while you're with him?
[09:45:59]  Yeah.
[09:46:00]  I got my nipples pierced when I was with him.
[09:46:03]  Oh.
[09:46:05]  That's kind of bad.
[09:46:06]  That was erotic.
[09:46:08]  And then you have a rose tattoo here, which is a bit covered by the...
[09:46:11]  Yeah.
[09:46:12]  This one right here.
[09:46:13]  Yeah, yeah.
[09:46:15]  And it's a butterfly.
[09:46:16]  It's a butterfly, yeah.
[09:46:18]  And it's not even done.
[09:46:19]  It has color.
[09:46:22]  32.
[09:46:23]  Yeah.
[09:46:23]  Neck.
[09:46:24]  God forbid.
[09:46:25]  She looks good.
[09:46:27]  Why not?
[09:46:28]  Are you in a gang?
[09:46:29]  No, I just like tattoos.
[09:46:31]  She owns a vegan business.
[09:46:33]  It's just a different aesthetic than what you want.
[09:46:35]  She owns a vegan business.
[09:46:38]  Where is this?
[09:46:39]  Mexican husband.
[09:46:41]  Where is the Mexican?
[09:46:43]  He's not Mexican.
[09:46:44]  He's a Mexican.
[09:46:44]  Oh, I thought you said he was Mexican.
[09:46:46]  He's a conquistador.
[09:46:48]  Does he speak Español?
[09:46:49]  He does.
[09:46:50]  Is he fluent?
[09:46:51]  He's a conquistador.
[09:46:52]  Kind of.
[09:46:53]  I taught him Spanish.
[09:46:55]  Oh, okay.
[09:46:56]  He's very like, he's getting his Mexican card revoked.
[09:47:00]  Wow.
[09:47:02]  Yeah, I mean, again, it's just...
[09:47:04]  A little closer to the mic.
[09:47:05]  Tattoos are, you know, doesn't matter what age you are.
[09:47:08]  It's like any type of modification that you do your body about.
[09:47:11]  Well, I understand you can get a tattoo at any age, but I guess the question is why?
[09:47:18]  What?
[09:47:18]  Because I like him?
[09:47:20]  Just because of that.
[09:47:22]  Do you have tattoos, Brian?
[09:47:23]  I have zero tattoos.
[09:47:25]  Also, it's a lot different for men and women.
[09:47:27]  I was just wondering if you're just taking a turn.
[09:47:28]  Different dot standard.
[09:47:30]  No, no, I was just wondering.
[09:47:31]  I actually don't have tattoos.
[09:47:32]  They cause cancer.
[09:47:33]  That's my biggest issue with tattoos.
[09:47:34]  And apparently, you're in like a low-level, whenever you have a tattoo, especially if you have a lot of tattoos, you're in a constant, like low-level immune response to the tattoo, is my understanding.
[09:47:49]  It's always trying to eat it.
[09:47:50]  It creates like my understanding, it's very like minimal, like to the point it's almost negligible.
[09:47:56]  But your body is like slightly always in an immune response, which can create a stress on your immune system.
[09:48:02]  Like slight, it's pretty slight stress on your images.
[09:48:05]  I'm vegan, so it only creates well.
[09:48:08]  If you're vegan and you're doing heroin, like you're still doing well, I don't do any drugs.
[09:48:12]  I don't drink.
[09:48:13]  No, but what I'm saying is, like, just because you're vegan.
[09:48:15]  Okay, never mind.
[09:48:16]  I only create stress for like four months.
[09:48:18]  No, it's like been known to lifelong.
[09:48:22]  But maybe I'm full of shit.
[09:48:23]  No, you're not.
[09:48:23]  I actually just watched it.
[09:48:24]  I was negligent after a certain amount of time, after it's healed over.
[09:48:28]  I mean, your body's always trying to.
[09:48:29]  It's always trying to get them.
[09:48:31]  It's still there.
[09:48:32]  They're trying to eat up the molecules, but they're too big.
[09:48:34]  But that doesn't.
[09:48:35]  But that's an autoimmune response.
[09:48:36]  What do you mean?
[09:48:38]  You've been talking way too fucking much tonight.
[09:48:40]  Be quiet.
[09:48:41]  No.
[09:48:43]  You have tattoos.
[09:48:43]  What do you think?
[09:48:45]  Closer to the mic.
[09:48:47]  They were just all impulsive.
[09:48:48]  Do you speak Japanese?
[09:48:49]  Yes.
[09:48:50]  Konichiwa.
[09:48:51]  Let's hear it.
[09:48:52]  Like Valorant.
[09:48:54]  Say something.
[09:48:55]  Like what?
[09:48:57]  I don't know.
[09:48:58]  Some like wife.
[09:48:59]  Some what's the fucking waifu?
[09:49:02]  Waifu.
[09:49:03]  Waifu.
[09:49:04]  No, I'm thinking of some weeb shit.
[09:49:11]  Uwu.
[09:49:14]  Oh, fuck.
[09:49:14]  That's going to get clipped.
[09:49:15]  Fuck.
[09:49:17]  Damn it.
[09:49:20]  I thought that she played Valorant.
[09:49:21]  I was asking her this because she looks like a Valorant e-girl.
[09:49:23]  She actually plays Counter-Strike.
[09:49:25]  Isn't that odd?
[09:49:26]  Oh, that's interesting.
[09:49:27]  That is odd, isn't it?
[09:49:28]  That is interesting.

=== Middleton High Quality Tattoos (02:38) ===

[09:49:29]  Okay.
[09:49:31]  Your thoughts on the tattoo thing?
[09:49:33]  I don't know.
[09:49:34]  I mean, people can get them if they want.
[09:49:36]  I just got them because I was impulsive.
[09:49:38]  I have hella kitty tattoos.
[09:49:40]  You have like a AK-47 on your sternum, sort of.
[09:49:46]  I just 32.
[09:49:47]  You get a neck tattoo.
[09:49:49]  Why not?
[09:49:51]  I just feel like it's the most normal thing.
[09:49:53]  I mean, normal?
[09:49:54]  Yeah.
[09:49:55]  How's that normal to get a tattoo on your neck?
[09:49:58]  Wait, with your daughters?
[09:50:00]  You have daughters, right?
[09:50:01]  Yes.
[09:50:03]  Would you be fine with them getting tattoos?
[09:50:05]  Yeah, why not?
[09:50:06]  Not right now.
[09:50:07]  That'll make it.
[09:50:07]  But yeah, once they're an adult, they can do whatever they want.
[09:50:10]  That'll make it harder for them to find a high-quality man because high-quality men do not like women.
[09:50:14]  I do have a high-quality men.
[09:50:17]  That's not true.
[09:50:18]  That's just the preference.
[09:50:19]  That doesn't make to the quality of anti-read quality man we're talking about.
[09:50:22]  Actually, yeah, actually, yeah.
[09:50:24]  I got the tattoos while I was in the middle of the morning.
[09:50:26]  I mean, that's kind of why I'm here.
[09:50:28]  Not all high-quality tattoos.
[09:50:30]  You're not high-quality men without a college degree.
[09:50:32]  You can't even call yourself that.
[09:50:34]  Because I'm not brainwashed.
[09:50:37]  I went to college for one semester.
[09:50:39]  I took the max amount of classes.
[09:50:41]  I got straight A's.
[09:50:42]  I do not need a college degree to prove myself.
[09:50:44]  Just because you got straight A's doesn't mean you're high school.
[09:50:46]  But just because you graduated from college doesn't mean you're high value.
[09:50:49]  I think education adds to a man's value completely.
[09:50:51]  Not necessarily.
[09:50:53]  It can be a plus in some situations.
[09:50:55]  I want to men with a degree.
[09:50:57]  You need an education, but when you're negotiating how much you're going to get paid, it definitely comes in handy.
[09:51:03]  Like, hey, I have a master's degree, so I want to get paid.
[09:51:06]  I'd be the employer.
[09:51:07]  I don't know.
[09:51:07]  This man thought Cambodia was in South.
[09:51:09]  You said South Asia, Southwest Asia.
[09:51:12]  I mixed up East and West.
[09:51:13]  I perfectly described it.
[09:51:16]  Never eat soggy walks.
[09:51:18]  No, no, no.
[09:51:20]  I perfectly explained to you that Cambodia is wrapped in between Thailand and Vietnam, and it's a little circle country.
[09:51:25]  I still thought that was Southwest.
[09:51:27]  But you also don't think there's Muslims in the UK.
[09:51:29]  It's like obviously.
[09:51:30]  I never said I didn't think there was Muslim.
[09:51:31]  Oh my god.
[09:51:34]  Hey, Shona.
[09:51:35]  Where's Bangladesh?
[09:51:37]  South Asia.
[09:51:38]  Hey, Shona.
[09:51:38]  Where's Uzbekistan?
[09:51:40]  Central Asia.
[09:51:41]  Hey, where is fucking Liechtenstein?
[09:51:45]  Of Europe, near Germany.
[09:51:47]  Where's Luxembourg?
[09:51:48]  Also, nearby, very small.
[09:51:50]  Oh, cool.
[09:51:51]  Where is Eritrea?
[09:51:53]  Eritrea, North East Africa.
[09:51:56]  Okay, cool.
[09:51:56]  Where is fucking Damascus?
[09:52:01]  West Asia.
[09:52:02]  West Asia.
[09:52:03]  West Asia, no?
[09:52:04]  What about Angola?
[09:52:05]  Is it in your Poland?
[09:52:06]  Angola, Africa.
[09:52:07]  Where?

=== Cartel Mexican Men (05:52) ===

[09:52:08]  Well, obviously.
[09:52:10]  Middleton.
[09:52:11]  Middle to Central.
[09:52:12]  Okay, Middleton?
[09:52:13]  What was your question?
[09:52:14]  Middleton.
[09:52:14]  Middleton's North.
[09:52:15]  What are you doing?
[09:52:17]  Yeah, if you have tattoo woman.
[09:52:19]  Maybe you take a woman.
[09:52:21]  Tattoos are not a deal breaker, but it is my preference that it's minimal or no tattoos.
[09:52:27]  So you're under the mindset.
[09:52:28]  You wouldn't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley, basically.
[09:52:31]  Yeah, like you shouldn't put a...
[09:52:32]  Exactly.
[09:52:33]  You could take a bumper sticker off a Bentley.
[09:52:37]  No, I understand what she's saying.
[09:52:38]  It is a saying, like, you don't put a, you wouldn't put like a bumper sticker on a Ferrari or something.
[09:52:42]  But it's not a deal breaker, although some tattoos are like strongly, strongly like, okay, she has a heart on her wrist.
[09:52:52]  Very minimal.
[09:52:53]  Would I prefer she doesn't have it?
[09:52:55]  Yes.
[09:52:55]  But like my objection to it is pretty negligible.
[09:52:59]  She has a heart on her ankle.
[09:53:02]  Okay, not a deal breaker.
[09:53:03]  Don't really care about the fire.
[09:53:04]  Butterfly on the chest.
[09:53:08]  Okay, face tattoos, neck tattoos.
[09:53:10]  Wait, I have a meme.
[09:53:11]  Wait, I'm loving this tattoo because I'm actually kind of judgmental about tattoos because like I think as a woman in particular, like having face, neck, chest.
[09:53:20]  Discord resources, memes.
[09:53:23]  Excellently on the side.
[09:53:23]  Discord resources memes.
[09:53:26]  You're going to scroll up like six.
[09:53:32]  And you're going to see a tattoo one.
[09:53:33]  Do you have it?
[09:53:35]  Quick, quick, Tiffany.
[09:53:36]  Quick, Tiffany, before I deport you.
[09:53:41]  I'm revoking your H1B visa.
[09:53:43]  Do you have it, T-Dog?
[09:53:45]  Tiffany.
[09:53:47]  Pull the top.
[09:53:48]  Yeah.
[09:53:50]  Oh, it's so facts.
[09:53:53]  And then go to the other one.
[09:53:55]  Sorry, Tiffany.
[09:53:56]  This is...
[09:53:57]  Tiffany has tattoos.
[09:53:58]  She's not enjoying this.
[09:54:00]  So that's the original.
[09:54:01]  But then go back to the other one.
[09:54:03]  The arms are disgusting.
[09:54:05]  Yeah.
[09:54:06]  And then, wait, actually X out of that and scroll down.
[09:54:11]  Scroll down.
[09:54:11]  X.
[09:54:12]  And then scroll down to the...
[09:54:14]  Wait, the red one?
[09:54:15]  Yeah, click that one.
[09:54:18]  Yeah, it's facts.
[09:54:19]  Yeah.
[09:54:19]  That's factual.
[09:54:20]  Just saying.
[09:54:21]  Just saying.
[09:54:22]  Okay, so anyways, here, let me blast through this.
[09:54:26]  Let me blast through this.
[09:54:28]  Okay, the tattoo thing.
[09:54:30]  You have a Christian tattoo too.
[09:54:32]  you christian i think um not really not really I'm not.
[09:54:36]  You said you dated a lot of bad guys.
[09:54:39]  I have.
[09:54:40]  Who would mistreat you?
[09:54:42]  Yes.
[09:54:42]  Until you met your husband, who's the opposite.
[09:54:44]  He's a great guy.
[09:54:45]  He's a nice guy.
[09:54:46]  Yeah.
[09:54:47]  And when you say bad guys, can you give us a quick list of details?
[09:54:50]  And were they Mexican?
[09:54:51]  Hey, y'all.
[09:54:52]  So fucking lovely.
[09:54:54]  Yeah, I mean, you know, being from Mexico, I dated a lot of cartel people.
[09:55:01]  Yeah.
[09:55:04]  Yeah, no, no.
[09:55:09]  Okay.
[09:55:12]  Oh, my God.
[09:55:12]  You can't.
[09:55:14]  Was that the.
[09:55:15]  I don't think it was the trip.
[09:55:16]  No, it wasn't the triple.
[09:55:16]  Okay.
[09:55:19]  But let's.
[09:55:20]  She does need her.
[09:55:21]  She needs her inhaler, guys.
[09:55:25]  So you date you dated Cartel?
[09:55:29]  Cartel people, yes.
[09:55:31]  A lot.
[09:55:31]  Which one?
[09:55:32]  The Sinaloa?
[09:55:33]  No, I mean, I'm from actually from the border, you know?
[09:55:37]  Juarez.
[09:55:39]  Is that Tijuana?
[09:55:41]  No, Tamalipas, which is, you know.
[09:55:44]  Yeah.
[09:55:45]  It's the border to Texas, actually.
[09:55:48]  She's from.
[09:55:49]  Did you ever date a main guy?
[09:55:53]  Kind of like a boss?
[09:55:54]  Yes.
[09:55:55]  A boss?
[09:55:56]  Yes.
[09:55:56]  A Jeff?
[09:55:57]  Yes.
[09:55:57]  You dated a Jeff?
[09:55:59]  Yes.
[09:55:59]  You dated a Hefe?
[09:56:00]  Yes, I did.
[09:56:02]  Very bad guy.
[09:56:03]  Very bad guy.
[09:56:05]  I love your tattoos, by the way.
[09:56:08]  Love your tattoos.
[09:56:09]  They're the best.
[09:56:10]  I agree with everything you say.
[09:56:16]  Okay, so, but so were they drug dealers?
[09:56:18]  Were they violent?
[09:56:19]  Were they dating?
[09:56:22]  You can just imagine.
[09:56:23]  I mean, if he's a boss of the cartel on that city, yes.
[09:56:27]  I mean, there were drug dealers.
[09:56:28]  They were crossing people across the border.
[09:56:30]  Everything.
[09:56:31]  Everything that...
[09:56:32]  Yes, absolutely.
[09:56:34]  Ikes, okay.
[09:56:35]  Yeah, I mean, but again, I was very young and stupid also, you know.
[09:56:39]  I kind of regret doing that, to be honest.
[09:56:42]  But yeah, I mean, that was kind of like my whole, you know, when I was growing up, that was the type of guys I was dating.
[09:56:50]  I see, I see.
[09:56:52]  And would they hit you?
[09:56:55]  Like they mistreated you?
[09:56:58]  I want to say yes.
[09:56:59]  Like this guy, the one that I dated, that was actually like kind of like the boss.
[09:57:03]  Yes, he put a gun to my head.
[09:57:05]  Yeah.
[09:57:05]  He put a gun to your head?
[09:57:06]  Absolutely.
[09:57:07]  More than once?
[09:57:09]  He did it twice.
[09:57:11]  Were you, like, why?
[09:57:13]  I mean, again, it's just, again, it's a different culture, I guess.
[09:57:17]  And let's just put it this way.
[09:57:20]  Like, he kind of, if I'm not with him, he's going to kill me type of thing, you know?
[09:57:25]  So.
[09:57:26]  Oh, shit.
[09:57:26]  Yeah, no, it should.
[09:57:28]  That's what I said in the very beginning.
[09:57:29]  I was like, that's why I won't date Mexican men.
[09:57:31]  They have that same mindset.
[09:57:32]  Well, but not everybody.
[09:57:33]  Again, you're dating a white guy now.
[09:57:36]  Way away.
[09:57:36]  Hold on.
[09:57:37]  Yeah, we're talking about Mexican.
[09:57:40]  Way away.
[09:57:40]  I just want to say, I've met some wonderful Mexican people.
[09:57:44]  I love Mexicans.
[09:57:46]  Do they cheat?
[09:57:47]  I will only date Mexicans.
[09:57:48]  Just saying.
[09:57:49]  Okay, that's interesting.
[09:57:50]  But I think Mexicans are wonderful.
[09:57:53]  So it's like, that's...
[09:57:55]  I think it's most Mexican men do not want to hold guns up to their girlfriends.

=== Partial Misogynist Feelings (07:53) ===

[09:58:01]  No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[09:58:02]  This is like a, you know, I'm talking about someone really specifically, someone that is like, like I said, like, it was like a...
[09:58:08]  Did you still hang out, like know him?
[09:58:10]  Not hang out with him.
[09:58:10]  Do you still keep in touch?
[09:58:12]  No, no, he actually ended up in jail.
[09:58:14]  He's already in jail.
[09:58:16]  Does he have a Wikipedia page?
[09:58:19]  I think so.
[09:58:20]  Dude, I think I saw him once and I was like, can we look this up?
[09:58:24]  Official.
[09:58:26]  I feel like we should.
[09:58:27]  Okay, that's.
[09:58:29]  Did you...
[09:58:31]  Okay.
[09:58:32]  You think you need to host more diversity on girls to talk on the podcast?
[09:58:37]  You see a lot of OnlyFans girls, influencers, or sex workers, but rarely ladies like you that actually have a real job and can share more opinions from the majority of the female population that don't have the...
[09:58:47]  But I mean, like, aside from her, no, no, Jude, yeah.
[09:58:51]  But most of our shows, it's like one or two OF girls or whatever.
[09:58:54]  I feel like, well, lately, I don't know what I was watching.
[09:58:57]  I felt like there was a lot of OnlyFans girls.
[09:58:59]  And I feel like I respect what they do, you know, but...
[09:59:04]  I don't.
[09:59:04]  Well, I have.
[09:59:06]  No offense.
[09:59:06]  You're pleasant enough, I guess.
[09:59:08]  I respect what they do, you know, but I feel like...
[09:59:10]  Wait, are you Christian?
[09:59:12]  I'm not.
[09:59:13]  Oh, for some reason, I saw you have a Christian tattoo.
[09:59:16]  I don't know.
[09:59:17]  I actually do, but I'm not a Christian.
[09:59:20]  Oh, okay.
[09:59:21]  Frankie, you have fe-them as your pronouns in your bio.
[09:59:26]  You have a complicated relationship status.
[09:59:28]  Why is it complicated?
[09:59:29]  Say complicated on Facebook?
[09:59:32]  No, it was on your, I think in the notes that you provided.
[09:59:35]  Oh, I don't remember putting complicated.
[09:59:37]  It's not complicated.
[09:59:40]  Barbara, you have two master's degrees, but prefer to be in the kitchen.
[09:59:44]  Facts.
[09:59:44]  Why is that?
[09:59:46]  Wait, can you say that in your own words?
[09:59:48]  Yeah, I have two master's degrees, but prefer to be in the kitchen.
[09:59:54]  Why is that?
[09:59:54]  Yeah, I just, I actually really enjoy cooking and baking, and, you know, particularly for, you know, my husband and my daughter.
[10:00:02]  And if I could just stay home and tend to the house and take care of my husband and child, I would.
[10:00:08]  But financially, that's not an option at the moment.
[10:00:11]  Why did you get the master's degrees then?
[10:00:13]  Because it's a lot of money, you know, to get those degrees.
[10:00:16]  Yeah, part of them was paid for because my first graduate program, the master's in English, I was actually like a TA the whole time.
[10:00:25]  And so like I actually came out of that with no debt and they actually paid me a stipend because I taught undergrad while I was getting the master's.
[10:00:33]  And then I taught college for a while.
[10:00:36]  And so while I was teaching college, they needed someone to get dual certified to teach comm in addition to English.
[10:00:43]  And so the college I was working for paid for half of that degree.
[10:00:48]  Okay.
[10:00:48]  But I'm assuming you have to pay for the other one.
[10:00:50]  And is it worth paying for if you don't get to like use it?
[10:00:51]  I mean, unless you have the means and you just want to learn more.
[10:00:54]  But that's why it's kind of worthless for women to go to college.
[10:00:57]  Learn from her.
[10:00:58]  Learn from her.
[10:00:59]  I said if they use Asian.
[10:01:00]  Learn.
[10:01:01]  Okay.
[10:01:01]  We're going to blast through the final rapid fire question segment.
[10:01:06]  Let's see here.
[10:01:07]  Is anybody here Asian?
[10:01:09]  Like part of Asia to.
[10:01:11]  Yeah.
[10:01:12]  Is your boy, you're married, right?
[10:01:13]  Is he white, Asian?
[10:01:15]  What is he?
[10:01:15]  He's white.
[10:01:16]  Okay, and question.
[10:01:18]  So, and you're, how old are you again?
[10:01:19]  25.
[10:01:20]  You're 25, you're married, you have a white husband.
[10:01:24]  Are you, or have you been attracted to Asian men?
[10:01:28]  You're Japanese, so.
[10:01:30]  When I was younger, yeah, but as I got older now.
[10:01:33]  Just curious, really quick, why is that?
[10:01:36]  Like looks-wise, or was it a personality thing?
[10:01:39]  Both?
[10:01:40]  Well, okay.
[10:01:41]  When I got older, it was just mostly looks, but like when I was younger, I used to watch Korean shows and I did not like the way they kissed.
[10:01:51]  Can you give us an example?
[10:01:54]  Just that's a dangerous thing.
[10:01:57]  They would just go like this and not, yeah, it wasn't like overlapping.
[10:02:01]  It was just face-to-face.
[10:02:02]  They're very efficient with what they do.
[10:02:05]  Very efficient people.
[10:02:06]  I feel like...
[10:02:07]  Okay, that's interesting.
[10:02:09]  Are you attracted?
[10:02:10]  I guess when you were single, were you attracted to Asian men?
[10:02:14]  No.
[10:02:16]  This way.
[10:02:16]  Question for you.
[10:02:19]  Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
[10:02:23]  Like if you were single?
[10:02:25]  Asian, I guess.
[10:02:27]  You guess?
[10:02:27]  Okay.
[10:02:28]  Would you rather date a Latino man or an Asian man?
[10:02:36]  Latino?
[10:02:37]  Latina?
[10:02:38]  So you go both ways.
[10:02:41]  Would you rather date a white man or an Asian man?
[10:02:44]  I. Because your husband.
[10:02:48]  Get this girl her inhaler.
[10:02:49]  Okay.
[10:02:51]  Let's see here.
[10:02:51]  Does anyone here think I am a misogynist?
[10:02:58]  Now's your chance.
[10:03:00]  Now's your chance.
[10:03:00]  Don't send it in my DMs.
[10:03:02]  Oh my God, parents.
[10:03:02]  Sometimes.
[10:03:03]  Sometimes a misogynist.
[10:03:07]  I think I said it earlier in the questionnaire that, you know, I feel like sometimes the statements that you say like that, like, oh, woman should bow to me, woman should, you know, do my laundry.
[10:03:19]  I think that's a little misogynist.
[10:03:22]  You say men should die for you.
[10:03:24]  Men should protect you.
[10:03:25]  Because that's our role.
[10:03:26]  I mean, that's totally different.
[10:03:28]  It's a woman's role to bow to me.
[10:03:32]  Oh, me.
[10:03:33]  Like, come on.
[10:03:33]  That's critical.
[10:03:34]  Cooked tomatoes, by the way.
[10:03:35]  Cooked tomatoes.
[10:03:36]  That's cringy, by the way.
[10:03:38]  Like, fowl?
[10:03:39]  Like, who does that?
[10:03:42]  If he does it in that voice, I would do it.
[10:03:44]  That's hysterical.
[10:03:46]  If you do it in the voice just like that.
[10:03:48]  I can do all kinds of voices.
[10:03:50]  I do all kinds.
[10:03:50]  I'll do it in a southern accent.
[10:03:53]  I'll even do a Vietnamese.
[10:03:55]  Let's hear the Southern one.
[10:03:56]  Please, let's hear the Southern.
[10:03:58]  Do LGBTI.
[10:03:59]  Can anybody do the Vietnamese nail salon voice?
[10:04:02]  Five dollar for you, five dollar for you.
[10:04:03]  Oh, that's pretty good.
[10:04:04]  You had no boyfriend.
[10:04:08]  I should have had y'all do the entire show in a Vietnamese accent.
[10:04:13]  Keep going.
[10:04:13]  Keep going.
[10:04:14]  I don't even know another sentence.
[10:04:15]  That's it.
[10:04:17]  You want gem on your hand?
[10:04:18]  Fai dala, fa dala.
[10:04:21]  Whoa.
[10:04:22]  I mean, you had no color.
[10:04:25]  I love the Vietnamese accent.
[10:04:26]  I love it.
[10:04:26]  It's very like a vibration.
[10:04:28]  I don't know how to put it.
[10:04:29]  It's very.
[10:04:32]  Yeah, noise.
[10:04:33]  It is.
[10:04:33]  That's it.
[10:04:34]  It is.
[10:04:35]  What the fuck are you doing?
[10:04:37]  You're good, Riley.
[10:04:38]  That's pretty good.
[10:04:38]  That was actually.
[10:04:39]  I actually would like to know what would you think.
[10:04:41]  See, we greeting a black girl, Nation girl.
[10:04:43]  Like, what are your preferences?
[10:04:45]  I mean, if I'm attracted to her, I'm attracted to her.
[10:04:49]  But generally, white women, but also like Latina and Asian women, too.
[10:04:55]  So, yeah, I mean, that's been my history.
[10:04:59]  Okay.
[10:05:00]  You know, I just, you know, no offense to the black women here.
[10:05:03]  I just feel like the black women, they're not really into me.
[10:05:06]  I just feel like I'm not for black.
[10:05:09]  Yeah, she knows.
[10:05:11]  I just feel like I'm not.
[10:05:13]  You're too white.
[10:05:14]  Sure, too.
[10:05:15]  For the black girls, you know.
[10:05:17]  No, I'm like a stand-up white guy.
[10:05:19]  Like, if I'm going to be with a white guy, act white.
[10:05:21]  Don't act like a wigga.
[10:05:22]  Like, don't do that.
[10:05:23]  I act like a wigga?
[10:05:24]  No, I'm just saying.
[10:05:24]  Act like a wigga?
[10:05:25]  Yeah, you did try.
[10:05:26]  You tried.
[10:05:27]  What do you mean, you people?
[10:05:28]  That is our work.
[10:05:33]  Okay, okay.
[10:05:35]  Okay, so I'm a misogynist.
[10:05:36]  How do you define misogyny?
[10:05:39]  I just feel someone that is kind of against women.
[10:05:43]  I mean, again, it could be a lot of instances, but again, I don't feel like you're fully misogynist.
[10:05:51]  I just think sometimes partial.
[10:05:53]  Partial misogyny.

=== Homo Sapien Act White (03:15) ===

[10:05:54]  Yeah.
[10:05:55]  Yeah.
[10:05:55]  Okay.
[10:05:56]  All right.
[10:05:57]  I will accept that, but not really.
[10:05:59]  Okay.
[10:06:06]  Hold on.
[10:06:07]  I'm getting to it.
[10:06:08]  I'm getting to it.
[10:06:08]  We're almost there.
[10:06:09]  We're at the tail end here.
[10:06:10]  We're close.
[10:06:11]  We're close.
[10:06:12]  I promise you guys.
[10:06:13]  Get this girl some more bagel bites.
[10:06:15]  I can't eat bagel bites.
[10:06:16]  That would make my asthma worse.
[10:06:18]  I guess not.
[10:06:19]  Scoot in just a little bit, Shona.
[10:06:22]  What's up?
[10:06:23]  Did I say it right?
[10:06:23]  Your name?
[10:06:24]  You did.
[10:06:26]  Okay.
[10:06:27]  We're getting into the rapid fire segment.
[10:06:29]  Put on your thinking caps, ladies and gentlemen, because I'm about to take you guys on a journey of science and questions that'll blow your mind.
[10:06:41]  Blow my mind.
[10:06:42]  Okay.
[10:06:43]  Question for you.
[10:06:47]  Chain split.
[10:06:50]  What species are we?
[10:06:57]  Hold on.
[10:06:58]  I'll point to you.
[10:07:04]  Homogeneous thing.
[10:07:06]  Sorry, what?
[10:07:08]  I don't know.
[10:07:10]  I have no clue.
[10:07:14]  Homos.
[10:07:15]  Homos.
[10:07:16]  Homos a little bit, I feel like I mean no, there's a homophobic.
[10:07:27]  No no yeah, that's, they're the word close to that I don't know, please don't refer to.
[10:07:32]  Yeah, that's that's people as Homos homogeneous.
[10:07:35]  That's the one for the books.
[10:07:37]  What?
[10:07:37]  What species are we?
[10:07:39]  Just humans, then?
[10:07:41]  Well, we are humans, but what species are we?
[10:07:46]  Why was I the first one?
[10:07:48]  I don't know.
[10:07:49]  Sapien right, your colored hair just drew me in Sapien.
[10:07:55]  Homo Sapien breed.
[10:08:07]  Oh boy, it's like 3 a.m.
[10:08:09]  Man oh really okay, what do you got for me?
[10:08:13]  What species are Homo Sapiens?
[10:08:15]  Oh yeah, going around the table.
[10:08:20]  It's false.
[10:08:21]  Homo Sapien Sapiens?
[10:08:23]  Uh-huh, wait what it's, facts.
[10:08:26]  Homo Sapien Sapiens, there's two, because Neadrothals are Homo Sapien, Neandrethals or Homo Sapien Sapiens.
[10:08:34]  Objection, irrelevant, i'm just saying you learn something every day.
[10:08:38]  Objection, you're angry okay uh, how about this?
[10:08:41]  Uh, name two countries besides the Usa, Algeria and Djibouti Mexico Venezuela uh, Japan and Spain, El Salvador Argentina, Jordan and Georgia no repeating, by the way.
[10:08:55]  Uh, Poland and Croatia, Iberia and Greece Canada, United States um up up, up up, Brazil and Africa.
[10:09:07]  That's my country.

=== Final Answer Capital Quiz (15:09) ===

[10:09:10]  I can't think of another one.
[10:09:11]  Okay Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Rhodesia.
[10:09:15]  Okay uh, how many continents are there?
[10:09:22]  Seven.
[10:09:23]  I'm gonna direct a lot of questions.
[10:09:24]  I feel like you haven't talked much tonight, so I feel like i'm gonna direct some of these questions at you.
[10:09:28]  What two countries, or you know what name, one continent Africa, can't repeat North America, South America Europe Antarctica Australia Asia wait, that's all of them.
[10:09:47]  What two, what two countries border the Usa, Mexico and Canada?
[10:09:55]  Final answer, don't dot yourself queen.
[10:10:00]  Final answer, yeah yeah, you are correct.
[10:10:05]  Uh, how many states are in the Usa?
[10:10:08]  52.
[10:10:13]  Do you vote?
[10:10:14]  No okay good, I feel like I have no right to vote.
[10:10:20]  I'm not, I don't.
[10:10:22]  I don't look into the politics.
[10:10:24]  You're like a based only fan scroll.
[10:10:26]  I've never seen that before.
[10:10:27]  There's, there's some of them.
[10:10:29]  Um okay, what is the capital of the Usa?
[10:10:34]  The capital Mic?
[10:10:36]  Oh, i'm sorry.
[10:10:36]  Um Albany, New York.
[10:10:39]  Sorry, i'm freaking.
[10:10:40]  Washington Dc.
[10:10:41]  I'm half a slave.
[10:10:43]  I'm from New York, i'm sorry.
[10:10:45]  Oh wow, that's, that's why i'm half a slave.
[10:10:48]  Uh okay, how many planets are in our solar system?
[10:10:54]  You're counting seven, seven planets eight, eight planets.
[10:11:04]  Final answer, yes, eight.
[10:11:06]  How many planets are in the solar system?
[10:11:08]  Um, Should be.
[10:11:18]  Throw something out.
[10:11:20]  A, I guess.
[10:11:21]  I'm pretty sure it is.
[10:11:23]  No, we're not counting on it.
[10:11:24]  Pluto got demoted.
[10:11:26]  I don't even know that.
[10:11:26]  Pluto got demoted.
[10:11:27]  Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, they changed their mind.
[10:11:31]  What?
[10:11:32]  What planet do we live on?
[10:11:34]  Earth.
[10:11:35]  Final answer.
[10:11:37]  And what galaxy?
[10:11:40]  The Milky Way, okay.
[10:11:42]  What is the capital of California?
[10:11:46]  You live in California?
[10:11:47]  No, Texas.
[10:11:48]  Okay, maybe it's not.
[10:11:50]  Okay, what is it?
[10:11:50]  Sacramento.
[10:11:51]  Well done.
[10:11:52]  The government building the Pentagon.
[10:11:55]  Hold on, the government building the Pentagon is what shape?
[10:12:00]  Pentagon.
[10:12:02]  Well, final answer?
[10:12:03]  Good job.
[10:12:04]  Okay.
[10:12:06]  What river runs through Egypt?
[10:12:08]  Nile.
[10:12:10]  Nile.
[10:12:10]  Okay.
[10:12:11]  What country is directly north of Mexico?
[10:12:16]  Country?
[10:12:17]  Yeah.
[10:12:17]  United States.
[10:12:20]  You're correct.
[10:12:22]  You are correct.
[10:12:23]  How many sides does a triangle have?
[10:12:26]  Three.
[10:12:28]  What country gifted the Statue of Liberty to the USA?
[10:12:32]  Is it France?
[10:12:35]  Final answer.
[10:12:35]  Yeah, you're correct.
[10:12:36]  Well done.
[10:12:37]  What do you call a shape with five sides?
[10:12:52]  What was the question?
[10:12:53]  It looks like the Wu-Tang clam.
[10:12:58]  You said it, you said it before.
[10:13:01]  The Pentagon?
[10:13:03]  Congratulations.
[10:13:04]  Apolly.
[10:13:05]  What gas do humans breathe in to survive?
[10:13:11]  What gas do plants absorb from the air?
[10:13:19]  Wait, what is the question?
[10:13:21]  What gas do plants absorb from the air?
[10:13:25]  Photosynthesis.
[10:13:26]  The one they make into oxygen.
[10:13:28]  Shona, tilt your mic down just a teeny bit.
[10:13:34]  I haven't thought about this since middle school.
[10:13:38]  You know what?
[10:13:40]  Sometimes sex work is the only option.
[10:13:44]  I have a degree.
[10:13:45]  Huh?
[10:13:46]  I have a degree.
[10:13:47]  In what?
[10:13:48]  Hospitality.
[10:13:50]  Oh, you've been very hospitable tonight.
[10:13:51]  Thank you very much.
[10:13:53]  How many months have 28 days?
[10:13:57]  Technically, all of them?
[10:14:03]  Yeah, Uno reverse.
[10:14:04]  I don't know Uno reverse.
[10:14:06]  I love it.
[10:14:07]  I think we accept that.
[10:14:08]  Yeah.
[10:14:08]  You cheap to only have 28.
[10:14:11]  They should all have 28 days.
[10:14:15]  Okay, I'll accept it.
[10:14:17]  We're not wrong.
[10:14:17]  You're not wrong.
[10:14:18]  It was a bit of a loophole answer, but we will accept it.
[10:14:22]  That was good.
[10:14:23]  Which, how about this?
[10:14:25]  What continent is Brazil in?
[10:14:28]  South America.
[10:14:30]  Sorry.
[10:14:31]  What continent is Egypt in?
[10:14:35]  Yeah.
[10:14:35]  Oh, Africa.
[10:14:37]  You're getting picked on right now.
[10:14:38]  Africa, you said?
[10:14:39]  Okay, what continent is Japan in?
[10:14:45]  Where are you pointing to?
[10:14:46]  Sorry.
[10:14:47]  Joy.
[10:14:48]  What continent?
[10:14:49]  Joy.
[10:14:49]  Is Japan in?
[10:14:50]  Yeah.
[10:14:51]  Into the mic.
[10:14:53]  No idea.
[10:14:54]  Yes.
[10:14:56]  Save continent.
[10:14:58]  What race is a Japanese person?
[10:14:59]  Hold on.
[10:15:01]  Korea.
[10:15:02]  Japanese.
[10:15:03]  Korean is continuing.
[10:15:04]  You have a one out of seven chance on this.
[10:15:06]  Hey, what the fuck?
[10:15:07]  Don't.
[10:15:08]  Oh, I heard somebody whisper Asia.
[10:15:09]  What the fuck?
[10:15:10]  Okay.
[10:15:11]  How many dimes make a dollar?
[10:15:13]  Ten.
[10:15:14]  Yeah, I gotta give the, you know, you deal with money, so.
[10:15:17]  What's the capital of France?
[10:15:19]  Paris.
[10:15:20]  What's the capital of Japan?
[10:15:22]  Tokyo.
[10:15:22]  What country is immediately south of the United States, George?
[10:15:29]  I don't even know where South is.
[10:15:32]  I don't know which way South is.
[10:15:33]  Whoa, I've never heard that.
[10:15:35]  Wait, Nobody helped.
[10:15:37]  Nobody help.
[10:15:38]  Don't help over there.
[10:15:39]  Using your fingers, what direction is South?
[10:15:46]  Using your finger.
[10:15:48]  Finger.
[10:15:50]  What direction is South?
[10:15:51]  Have you ever voted?
[10:15:53]  Yeah.
[10:15:54]  Oh, God.
[10:15:55]  Are we telling you that?
[10:15:55]  Wait, wait, wait.
[10:15:58]  Or just like.
[10:15:59]  I mean, come on.
[10:16:01]  South of our country.
[10:16:02]  Stop.
[10:16:02]  Stop.
[10:16:02]  No, don't fucking help.
[10:16:04]  That didn't help.
[10:16:05]  Here, use your fingers.
[10:16:07]  Or use your arm.
[10:16:08]  Put your arm up.
[10:16:10]  Stick it up.
[10:16:11]  Oh, wait.
[10:16:11]  Hold on.
[10:16:12]  This.
[10:16:12]  Wait.
[10:16:14]  Never eat soggy waffles.
[10:16:16]  We live in the South.
[10:16:17]  Okay.
[10:16:18]  So you're going to...
[10:16:19]  Wait, okay, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that.
[10:16:21]  Here.
[10:16:22]  Wait, finger.
[10:16:23]  Point your finger to where South is.
[10:16:26]  Well, I guess it's down because you say it's soggy.
[10:16:29]  Oh, my God, Shona.
[10:16:31]  You motherfuck.
[10:16:32]  I am never giving.
[10:16:34]  You need to regurgitate those bagel bites.
[10:16:36]  You're never getting a bagel bite ever in your life.
[10:16:40]  Ever again, ever again.
[10:16:41]  Banned from bagel bites.
[10:16:43]  Okay, which way is west?
[10:16:45]  Well, hold on.
[10:16:46]  That way.
[10:16:47]  She got it.
[10:16:48]  Wait, hold on.
[10:16:49]  Wait.
[10:16:50]  I mean.
[10:16:51]  That way.
[10:16:54]  What are we saying?
[10:16:55]  Wait, hold on.
[10:16:56]  What?
[10:16:57]  Oh, yeah, that's fair.
[10:16:58]  Like, okay, the perspective.
[10:17:00]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[10:17:00]  Okay.
[10:17:01]  So you're aligned with them.
[10:17:02]  Maybe.
[10:17:03]  Wait, no, that.
[10:17:04]  Okay, how about this?
[10:17:05]  I'll make it even more.
[10:17:06]  Which way is north?
[10:17:07]  Up.
[10:17:08]  There we go.
[10:17:08]  Okay, there you go.
[10:17:10]  Let's see here.
[10:17:11]  How did if today is Monday, what day is it in three days, Angelica?
[10:17:17]  Thursday.
[10:17:19]  Thursday.
[10:17:20]  If you have three quarters, how much money do you have, Anna?
[10:17:24]  Three quarters.
[10:17:25]  If you have three inhalers, how many inhalers?
[10:17:28]  75.
[10:17:31]  Who painted the Mona Lisa?
[10:17:36]  I actually have no clue.
[10:17:37]  I don't know.
[10:17:38]  No, I don't know.
[10:17:40]  I don't really know either.
[10:17:41]  Mike.
[10:17:42]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[10:17:43]  I'm put on the spot.
[10:17:43]  I don't know.
[10:17:44]  What about you?
[10:17:45]  I've never asked myself that question.
[10:17:48]  You know the most famous painting ever.
[10:17:50]  Motherfucker.
[10:17:51]  Did I point to you when you got it?
[10:17:53]  I said that.
[10:17:53]  Did I point to you?
[10:17:55]  Oh, my goodness.
[10:17:57]  Shit, man.
[10:17:59]  I'm going to excommunicate you from the Mormon church.
[10:18:02]  Again, you're excommunicating.
[10:18:04]  Don't do that.
[10:18:05]  Okay.
[10:18:06]  What is the name of the famous car company founded by Henry Ford?
[10:18:14]  Good job.
[10:18:17]  Okay, if it takes three minutes to ride.
[10:18:21]  Oh, my God.
[10:18:22]  You guys are.
[10:18:23]  Okay, you guys are too much.
[10:18:24]  You've read his works.
[10:18:26]  Are we your favorite panel of all time?
[10:18:28]  Yes.
[10:18:30]  Certainly.
[10:18:31]  If it takes three minutes to boil one egg, how many minutes does it take to boil three eggs?
[10:18:38]  Three minutes.
[10:18:38]  Three minutes.
[10:18:39]  Three minutes?
[10:18:40]  Okay, would you say it again, Anna?
[10:18:41]  Three minutes.
[10:18:42]  Into the mic?
[10:18:42]  Into the mic?
[10:18:43]  Three minutes.
[10:18:45]  How many?
[10:18:48]  If it takes three minutes to boil one.
[10:18:50]  How many does it take to boil three?
[10:18:53]  Are you throwing them all in there together or like separately?
[10:18:57]  Like, are you putting them all in the same panel?
[10:18:59]  What, actually?
[10:19:02]  Wait, that's actually 300 IQ questions.
[10:19:04]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[10:19:05]  Because you could boil multiple eggs at the same time.
[10:19:10]  We're all thinking.
[10:19:11]  But I think the framework.
[10:19:13]  Why would you put one of that?
[10:19:14]  Fuck that goddamn.
[10:19:16]  That question sucks.
[10:19:17]  That's what I was thinking.
[10:19:19]  How many?
[10:19:21]  I got to be careful how nickels make a dollar.
[10:19:27]  Can I answer it or no?
[10:19:29]  Oh, yeah, I should point to somebody.
[10:19:31]  How many nickels make a dollar?
[10:19:33]  20.
[10:19:33]  Good job.
[10:19:34]  What is 50% of 200?
[10:19:36]  100.
[10:19:37]  What is 5 times 5?
[10:19:39]  5 times 5?
[10:19:40]  25.
[10:19:40]  12 divided by 3.
[10:19:42]  4.
[10:19:42]  100 divided by 5.
[10:19:46]  Try to figure that out.
[10:19:47]  Try to figure that out.
[10:19:48]  15 plus 35.
[10:19:51]  50.
[10:19:52]  90 minus 45.
[10:19:55]  45.
[10:19:58]  Yeah, that's what I said.
[10:20:01]  Bruh.
[10:20:03]  Did you say 90?
[10:20:04]  How many branches of U.S. government are there?
[10:20:09]  Three.
[10:20:11]  Name one branch of the U.S. government.
[10:20:14]  Into the mic.
[10:20:15]  I'm sorry, the judicial.
[10:20:17]  Another one?
[10:20:18]  Executive?
[10:20:20]  Executive.
[10:20:21]  You never remember the third one.
[10:20:23]  Deep state.
[10:20:25]  Deep state?
[10:20:26]  Is that supposed to be a hint?
[10:20:28]  I know it.
[10:20:31]  It went over all your guys' heads.
[10:20:33]  Right, make them harder.
[10:20:36]  That would not be fair.
[10:20:37]  She's like, I'm in college.
[10:20:38]  Yeah, I didn't go to 10th grade.
[10:20:39]  I'm sorry.
[10:20:40]  Maybe I should.
[10:20:41]  Maybe for the smart people, I should have government.
[10:20:45]  Okay, I know the answer.
[10:20:47]  What document begins with We the People?
[10:20:50]  The Independence.
[10:20:53]  The Independence.
[10:20:55]  Period.
[10:20:59]  Independence.
[10:21:03]  The document is called The Independence or just Independence?
[10:21:09]  Independence.
[10:21:12]  It's Independence.
[10:21:12]  You are correct.
[10:21:13]  That is the document.
[10:21:15]  How many stars are on the U.S. flag?
[10:21:19]  52.
[10:21:22]  50.
[10:21:22]  50.
[10:21:24]  50 states.
[10:21:25]  What is 52?
[10:21:29]  Yeah, it is.
[10:21:30]  It's 52.
[10:21:31]  You are correct.
[10:21:33]  What century are we in?
[10:21:36]  The 21st.
[10:21:38]  Final answer.
[10:21:39]  Yes.
[10:21:40]  You are correct.
[10:21:41]  What galaxy do we live in?
[10:21:43]  The Milky.
[10:21:45]  The Milky.
[10:21:47]  That sounds like some sex act or something.
[10:21:52]  I'm ready for my Milky.
[10:21:55]  Click that.
[10:21:57]  Milky Milky.
[10:21:59]  I'm ready for my Milky.
[10:22:02]  Oh, man.
[10:22:03]  Okay.
[10:22:03]  Sign me up.
[10:22:05]  How many in one dozen?
[10:22:09]  12.
[10:22:10]  Good job.
[10:22:12]  How many months in a decade?
[10:22:16]  Yes, Theo.
[10:22:19]  I feel like I'm wrong, like 120.
[10:22:22]  Oh, you got it.
[10:22:23]  You got congratulations.
[10:22:25]  Congrats.
[10:22:25]  What year was the U.S. founded?
[10:22:28]  1776.
[10:22:29]  Damn it.
[10:22:30]  I thought you can watch Hamilton, man.
[10:22:32]  Fuck.
[10:22:32]  Okay.
[10:22:33]  I thought that was going to be a tricky one.
[10:22:36]  Some 300 IQ questions here for Shona.
[10:22:40]  What country did the U.S.
[10:22:41]  It's what?
[10:22:42]  Did I say it wrong?
[10:22:43]  No, I said I'm scared now.
[10:22:44]  Okay, go ahead.
[10:22:45]  What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?
[10:22:49]  Britain?
[10:22:51]  We will accept that answer.
[10:22:53]  UK?
[10:22:54]  London?
[10:22:54]  No, we accept it.
[10:22:55]  It's acceptable.
[10:22:57]  Who was the first president of the USA?
[10:23:00]  George Washington.
[10:23:02]  Final answer.
[10:23:03]  The first one, right?
[10:23:04]  The first?
[10:23:05]  Yes.
[10:23:05]  Yeah.
[10:23:06]  It's not Abraham Lincoln.
[10:23:08]  He's no.
[10:23:10]  What country is the Great Wall of China in?
[10:23:18]  Asia.
[10:23:20]  No, what country is the Great Wall of China in?
[10:23:24]  China.
[10:23:25]  You are correct.
[10:23:26]  Good job.
[10:23:27]  China is in Asia, though, to be fair.
[10:23:30]  Brian, how many members are in Congress?
[10:23:33]  How many members, wait, in Congress or the Senate or the House of Representatives?
[10:23:38]  Congress includes both the Senate and the House of Representatives.
[10:23:41]  Oh, in totality.
[10:23:42]  In totality.
[10:23:43]  What about DC special votes?
[10:23:45]  You know what?
[10:23:46]  Truthfully, I'm a monarchist, so I don't pay attention to your silly, silly democracy.
[10:23:54]  I don't give a fuck.
[10:23:55]  I mean, I still vote, but I don't care for the nuances and the milieu and the minutiae of the United States governmental system.
[10:24:05]  Sure, I forgot how many were in the House of Representatives.
[10:24:09]  It's always changing, though.
[10:24:11]  No, it's not.
[10:24:11]  It's not.
[10:24:12]  It's been locked in for decades.
[10:24:14]  Is the fuck.
[10:24:16]  Well, clip it and chip it, boys.
[10:24:18]  I am retarded.

=== FDR President Bush (02:11) ===

[10:24:19]  Was the president during World War II?
[10:24:22]  Eisenhower?
[10:24:23]  Nope.
[10:24:23]  FDR.
[10:24:24]  Yeah.
[10:24:25]  Who was the president before that?
[10:24:26]  Oh, Riley.
[10:24:27]  Who was the president before FDR?
[10:24:28]  I don't know the president before FDR.
[10:24:30]  Hoover.
[10:24:31]  You know what?
[10:24:31]  That was a knee-jerk.
[10:24:33]  And how does that contribute to the future of society?
[10:24:36]  To know the president.
[10:24:37]  This is history.
[10:24:38]  You should know.
[10:24:38]  How do any of these questions contribute to the future?
[10:24:40]  They contribute.
[10:24:41]  I know FDR.
[10:24:42]  I just asked women if they don't vote.
[10:24:44]  That contributes when they didn't know an answer.
[10:24:47]  I'm still stuck on what is the third branch of legislative.
[10:24:52]  Do you vote, Riley?
[10:24:53]  Do you vote?
[10:24:53]  I haven't said you don't know those answers.
[10:24:56]  What was the question?
[10:24:57]  What was the question she asked?
[10:24:58]  Wait, tell me.
[10:24:58]  What was the question she asked?
[10:25:00]  All night long, when a woman didn't know an answer, you can't say.
[10:25:03]  What was the question she asked?
[10:25:05]  Do you vote?
[10:25:06]  What was the question that she asked?
[10:25:07]  Tell me.
[10:25:08]  Who?
[10:25:09]  What was the question that she asked?
[10:25:11]  How many members are in?
[10:25:13]  No.
[10:25:14]  She asked, who was the president before FDR?
[10:25:17]  Well, why is that okay to say, oh, you don't know where Mexico is, so you can't vote, but I don't know where the president is.
[10:25:24]  Who was the president before FDR is not the most common knowledge?
[10:25:28]  Immigrants are tested on this stuff, actually, to become citizens.
[10:25:31]  I know we were getting along so well.
[10:25:34]  Hey Sean.
[10:25:35]  I'm trying to throw some hard questions in the middle.
[10:25:36]  Thank you, Josh.
[10:25:37]  You don't need to know that.
[10:25:38]  You don't know what I'm saying.
[10:25:39]  Who's the president in 1910?
[10:25:41]  1910.
[10:25:46]  World War II.
[10:25:47]  Who was the president before Bill Clinton?
[10:25:50]  Ooh, is it George W. Bush?
[10:25:53]  George Bush.
[10:25:53]  George H. W. George H. Ooh.
[10:25:56]  Ooh.
[10:25:56]  I was closer than you.
[10:25:57]  You didn't know FDR.
[10:25:59]  Who's the president after Bill Clinton?
[10:26:01]  After Bill Clinton?
[10:26:02]  Wasn't it Obama?
[10:26:03]  Are you sure?
[10:26:04]  George Bush.
[10:26:04]  Are you sure about that?
[10:26:05]  This is more recent.
[10:26:06]  I'm old.
[10:26:07]  George Bush.
[10:26:08]  This was the primary to the U.S. Who was before Bush?
[10:26:12]  Number one.
[10:26:14]  Reagan?
[10:26:15]  Hey, I wasn't that scholarly.
[10:26:16]  Oh, my God.
[10:26:17]  I might have gotten there because that's like during Red Scare.
[10:26:19]  Before Reagan.
[10:26:21]  What about before Reagan?
[10:26:21]  Is it Nixon?
[10:26:23]  Hey, what year?
[10:26:24]  Was it Nixon?
[10:26:25]  No.
[10:26:25]  I don't know.
[10:26:25]  I don't think they were.
[10:26:27]  Hold on.
[10:26:27]  Let me blast through the rest.
[10:26:29]  How many days?
[10:26:30]  How many seasons are there?

=== Mount Everest Tallest Mountain (05:51) ===

[10:26:31]  Just like.
[10:26:32]  Four.
[10:26:33]  How many days in the year?
[10:26:35]  365.
[10:26:36]  Hoover set up the Great Depression.
[10:26:37]  That's significant.
[10:26:38]  How many letters in the alphabet?
[10:26:40]  25.
[10:26:43]  How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
[10:26:46]  Seven.
[10:26:47]  Final answer.
[10:26:49]  Are you sure?
[10:26:50]  Count it.
[10:26:51]  Just be sure.
[10:26:52]  Just count.
[10:26:54]  Use your fingers.
[10:26:55]  It helps.
[10:26:57]  No, it's six.
[10:26:59]  You are correct.
[10:26:59]  It is six.
[10:27:01]  Only six.
[10:27:02]  But day?
[10:27:03]  You said day?
[10:27:05]  Yeah.
[10:27:05]  How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
[10:27:08]  How many days are in a week?
[10:27:10]  How many days are seven?
[10:27:12]  But Sunday, wait.
[10:27:14]  Oh my god, wait.
[10:27:15]  Oh, shit.
[10:27:16]  What language do the people in Idaho speak?
[10:27:20]  You're asking me?
[10:27:20]  Yeah.
[10:27:21]  English.
[10:27:23]  You are correct.
[10:27:24]  I don't know English.
[10:27:25]  But I don't know if I'm a trick.
[10:27:27]  A little bit.
[10:27:28]  What ocean is California next to?
[10:27:30]  Potato.
[10:27:30]  Pacific.
[10:27:31]  How many years are in a decade?
[10:27:33]  Ten.
[10:27:34]  How many are in a century?
[10:27:37]  I don't know.
[10:27:38]  Oh, I don't know.
[10:27:40]  Wait, huh?
[10:27:42]  Century.
[10:27:42]  How many years in the century?
[10:27:44]  I don't know.
[10:27:44]  Guess.
[10:27:45]  Throw out the number.
[10:27:47]  I really can't.
[10:27:48]  I don't know.
[10:27:48]  Century?
[10:27:49]  Yeah, I can't.
[10:27:50]  I'm not a good testing.
[10:27:53]  How many cents are in a dollar?
[10:27:56]  I'm sorry?
[10:27:56]  How many cents are in a dollar?
[10:27:59]  A hundred?
[10:28:01]  Century.
[10:28:01]  How many years are in a century?
[10:28:03]  A hundred.
[10:28:03]  There we go.
[10:28:04]  Sorry, I'm not going to be able to do that.
[10:28:08]  We can do that for you.
[10:28:10]  We can oblige.
[10:28:11]  Okay.
[10:28:11]  Are we still going for a long time?
[10:28:13]  Almost done, I promise.
[10:28:15]  We're at the tail end.
[10:28:16]  Are people still watching this?
[10:28:18]  There's like, you know, like two people.
[10:28:20]  Hold on, where is it?
[10:28:21]  If a dozen eggs cost $3, how much is each egg?
[10:28:24]  $0.25.
[10:28:26]  Oh, that's not happening.
[10:28:27]  I looked it up before you came back.
[10:28:28]  Because you already asked that one.
[10:28:31]  What is the closest star to Earth?
[10:28:34]  The sun.
[10:28:37]  Cheater.
[10:28:39]  What year did the War of 1812 start?
[10:28:46]  1812?
[10:28:48]  Mike.
[10:28:49]  1812?
[10:28:50]  Yeah.
[10:28:50]  What weighs more?
[10:28:51]  A pound of feathers or a pound of bricks?
[10:28:54]  Feathers.
[10:28:55]  Feathers.
[10:28:59]  Oh.
[10:29:00]  Okay.
[10:29:00]  I think the weight of what you did to those birds has a lot of weight on you.
[10:29:04]  Oh, yeah.
[10:29:05]  Big time.
[10:29:06]  Big time.
[10:29:07]  Birds shed feathers.
[10:29:09]  What country is the Pan McNowl in?
[10:29:12]  Animal.
[10:29:13]  What country is Mount Fuji in?
[10:29:16]  Is Fuji a country?
[10:29:18]  Mount Fuji.
[10:29:19]  What country is it in?
[10:29:22]  If it's...
[10:29:23]  If Fuji is not a country, I don't know.
[10:29:31]  I never heard of it.
[10:29:33]  Mount Fuji.
[10:29:35]  What country?
[10:29:36]  Hannah?
[10:29:37]  Is it Fiji?
[10:29:39]  Possibly.
[10:29:40]  What?
[10:29:40]  Japan.
[10:29:41]  You are correct.
[10:29:42]  It is Japan.
[10:29:42]  What country is the Coliseum in?
[10:29:45]  I've never heard of that.
[10:29:48]  Italy.
[10:29:48]  You are correct.
[10:29:49]  What country is the Taj Mahal in?
[10:29:54]  He looked away.
[10:29:57]  Somewhere in Asia?
[10:29:58]  I don't know.
[10:29:58]  No way.
[10:29:59]  Somewhere.
[10:30:00]  Well, yeah.
[10:30:00]  Oh, you're not wrong.
[10:30:01]  Yeah.
[10:30:01]  You're in the continent.
[10:30:03]  I was going to say India, but okay, okay.
[10:30:06]  Yeah, that's it.
[10:30:06]  What language do people speak in Mexico?
[10:30:11]  Spanish.
[10:30:12]  Are you sure?
[10:30:13]  Yes.
[10:30:13]  You are correct.
[10:30:14]  If you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
[10:30:17]  Second.
[10:30:18]  Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
[10:30:22]  Hawaii.
[10:30:23]  A farmer has 17 sheep and all but nine die.
[10:30:26]  How many are left?
[10:30:31]  Zero.
[10:30:32]  Or you know, you said all but nine die?
[10:30:33]  You said there were seven sheep.
[10:30:34]  There's 17 sheep.
[10:30:36]  All but nine die.
[10:30:37]  How many are left?
[10:30:41]  You said there's seven sheep.
[10:30:43]  17.
[10:30:43]  Oh, 17.
[10:30:44]  I thought you said.
[10:30:44]  17 sheep.
[10:30:45]  All but nine die.
[10:30:46]  How many are left?
[10:30:48]  All but nine die, nine are left.
[10:30:51]  No, 17.
[10:30:52]  You never said dead or alive sheep, dude.
[10:30:55]  Last die?
[10:30:56]  Laugh would imply alive.
[10:30:58]  You make it like, you probably make like a million dollars a year on this podcast and you don't have refined questions.
[10:31:02]  No, these are good.
[10:31:04]  What country is the Eiffel Tower in?
[10:31:09]  Paris.
[10:31:10]  France.
[10:31:11]  France.
[10:31:13]  Not Paris.
[10:31:14]  What currency is used in Japan?
[10:31:16]  Yen.
[10:31:17]  There we go.
[10:31:18]  Have you been to Japan?
[10:31:19]  Yes.
[10:31:20]  Adolf Hitler ruled which country?
[10:31:22]  Poland.
[10:31:23]  Oh my God, that's crazy.
[10:31:25]  Me?
[10:31:26]  Whoa.
[10:31:27]  Germany.
[10:31:28]  All right.
[10:31:29]  Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?
[10:31:36]  I'm going to guess Mauna Kea, but I'm not sure.
[10:31:38]  Well, Mona Kia is the tallest, including under sea level.
[10:31:43]  But you would agree that Mount Everest is above sea level, it's got the highest peak, yeah.
[10:31:48]  I don't know.
[10:31:48]  No, but Mount Everest is the tallest mountain.
[10:31:50]  Above sea level.
[10:31:51]  But if you go if you go base to peak, I'm not talking about it.
[10:31:55]  I don't know the second or the tallest.
[10:31:56]  No, but what was it?
[10:31:57]  Before it was discovered, what was the tallest mountain?
[10:32:00]  I said, I don't know.
[10:32:02]  Mount Everest, it doesn't need to be discovered to be the tallest mountain.
[10:32:04]  It's still the tallest mountain.
[10:32:06]  The tallest discovered.
[10:32:07]  Boom.
[10:32:08]  Lawyered.
[10:32:08]  Okay.
[10:32:09]  What does the hippocampus do in the brain?
[10:32:11]  The hippocampus that regulates you being fucking annoying.
[10:32:15]  So anyway.
[10:32:17]  That's actually my amygdala.
[10:32:18]  That's the amygdala.
[10:32:20]  What country did the Vietnam War happen in?
[10:32:22]  Vietnam.

=== Spitfire World War II (06:48) ===

[10:32:23]  Can you open those doors more?
[10:32:25]  All the way.
[10:32:26]  How much is a quarter of an hour?
[10:32:30]  15 minutes.
[10:32:31]  What is 34 plus 66?
[10:32:34]  34 plus 66 is 99.
[10:32:40]  Wait.
[10:32:42]  6, 7, 8, 9.
[10:32:45]  You are correct.
[10:32:45]  It is 99.
[10:32:47]  You got that right.
[10:32:50]  What is.
[10:32:51]  Who's the current U.S. president?
[10:32:53]  Donald Trump.
[10:32:54]  What is 100 minus 66?
[10:32:56]  44.
[10:32:58]  44.
[10:32:58]  Okay.
[10:33:00]  What is 100 minus 34?
[10:33:11]  No idea.
[10:33:13]  Throw something out.
[10:33:16]  Almost there.
[10:33:18]  Almost there.
[10:33:18]  We're so close.
[10:33:19]  We're so close.
[10:33:22]  70.
[10:33:24]  70.
[10:33:25]  Okay.
[10:33:26]  Let's see.
[10:33:27]  What is 77 plus 33?
[10:33:32]  110.
[10:33:34]  Oh, wow.
[10:33:35]  That was good.
[10:33:35]  That was cool.
[10:33:36]  66 plus 44.
[10:33:38]  It's because she's Japanese.
[10:33:39]  That's what this is.
[10:33:41]  That's true, though.
[10:33:42]  How much?
[10:33:42]  66 plus 44.
[10:33:47]  That's still 110?
[10:33:50]  Wait.
[10:33:51]  You sure?
[10:33:52]  Yeah.
[10:33:52]  What is it?
[10:33:53]  Throw out a number.
[10:33:54]  110.
[10:33:54]  Okay.
[10:33:55]  If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
[10:33:59]  20.
[10:34:00]  Okay.
[10:34:01]  Can we go back in time?
[10:34:04]  If you were born 10 years ago, Hannah, how old are you again?
[10:34:07]  33, but I would be 10.
[10:34:11]  You got it.
[10:34:12]  How many world wars were there?
[10:34:16]  Two.
[10:34:20]  You are correct.
[10:34:22]  What decade?
[10:34:23]  What decade?
[10:34:24]  So, for example, 1820s, 1970s.
[10:34:29]  What decade was World War I?
[10:34:31]  1910s.
[10:34:32]  1910s.
[10:34:35]  They could be wrong.
[10:34:37]  They may very well be wrong.
[10:34:39]  World War I, yes.
[10:34:40]  1800s, 1700s.
[10:34:42]  There's wars back then.
[10:34:45]  I thought it was 18.
[10:34:47]  Yeah, what did you think?
[10:34:48]  1870s?
[10:34:51]  50s?
[10:34:52]  Maybe the 40s, I think.
[10:34:59]  Throughout a decade, throughout a decade.
[10:35:01]  18.
[10:35:03]  18 18, what?
[10:35:05]  90s, 1890s?
[10:35:06]  Okay 1910s 1910s 1910s 1920s, 1920s?
[10:35:14]  I think it was 1912.
[10:35:15]  So 1910s, definitely 1910, 1914 to 1919.
[10:35:24]  I'll just give an exact 1910s.
[10:35:27]  Well, it's 1914 to 1918 yeah, throwing that out there.
[10:35:32]  But uh, primary decade of World War Ii, 19, starting with you.
[10:35:39]  I think she might be right.
[10:35:41]  1919 is 1919, i'm pretty sure.
[10:35:43]  No, it ended in 1918.
[10:35:44]  Really, I actually think it's 1919.
[10:35:47]  But okay uh, was there anything like november 11th night?
[10:35:53]  That's the Marine Corps birthday, 1111.
[10:35:55]  No no, this is the ceasefire.
[10:35:56]  What was the question?
[10:35:58]  Primary decade of World War Ii?
[10:36:02]  Primary decade, wouldn't it be the 1900s?
[10:36:07]  That's the the decade.
[10:36:08]  Though what is the decade?
[10:36:14]  60s, the 1600s 60s 60s okay, the Beatles, 1910?
[10:36:22]  Wasn't this just World War Ii, dude?
[10:36:25]  I don't know well, World War One happened first yes, so it's probably after, for sure, after 1930s 1930s okay 1920s 20s 1930s, mainly 1940 40s 40s 40s 30s 30s 40s 40s, 1939 to 1945.
[10:36:50]  Yep exactly, I was gonna say 19 19, 1939 to 1945.
[10:36:55]  So that I do got.
[10:36:57]  Yeah, who led Italy during World War I?
[10:36:59]  Who led Italy during World War Ii?
[10:37:01]  World War Ii?
[10:37:01]  Yeah Mussolini Bonito Mussolini, and they were actually no bad allies.
[10:37:06]  Tojo uh, what about Japan?
[10:37:09]  Um oh okay, hold on.
[10:37:11]  Uh oh, it's on the tip of my tongue.
[10:37:13]  Hold on, hold on, let me.
[10:37:14]  Uh, Hirohito.
[10:37:17]  What about the Uk?
[10:37:18]  That's the last one.
[10:37:19]  Uh Churchill, although at the outbreak of wait, hold on.
[10:37:23]  There was another prime minister at the very early, it was uh Chamberlain, Neville Chamberlain, and then Winston Churchill.
[10:37:36]  Churchill was like the main one, Churchill's the main one.
[10:37:38]  What was his famous line?
[10:37:39]  About the Soviet, about women, about the Soviet?
[10:37:42]  It's like he.
[10:37:42]  He said something along the lines of, yes, I may be drunk, but you will always be ugly and fat.
[10:37:49]  Was he like the British?
[10:37:50]  What was his, his famous line?
[10:37:52]  I don't, it was just like the whole iron curtain thing.
[10:37:55]  It's okay.
[10:37:56]  Can you name a world spitfire?
[10:38:01]  Uh, the Stuka dive bomber nice, i'm sure I could probably think of something.
[10:38:06]  What was?
[10:38:07]  What was German?
[10:38:07]  Germany's fastest?
[10:38:09]  Um, like aircraft that they would use to attack?
[10:38:12]  Oh, I wouldn't know that.
[10:38:13]  I think it was like spitfire.
[10:38:15]  No, that's an American plane or wait, it's.
[10:38:18]  I swear that was German.
[10:38:19]  Come on, the spitfire is not German.
[10:38:21]  I believe it's either American or British.
[10:38:23]  I'm pretty sure it's American.
[10:38:24]  Wait wait wait, do a fact check on this.
[10:38:25]  I'm pretty sure the spitfire was the spitfire, an English word hold on, hold on.
[10:38:30]  The Germans had an English word, I thought it was this.
[10:38:33]  I thought the spitfire is okay.
[10:38:34]  Which country had the largest rail gun during World War Ii?
[10:38:42]  germany It's a German engineering.
[10:38:47]  Okay.
[10:38:49]  How many people, and this is going to be, how about this?
[10:38:51]  How many people died during World War II?
[10:38:53]  Multiple choice question.
[10:38:55]  1 million, 5 million.
[10:38:58]  Which one's closer?
[10:38:59]  1 million?
[10:39:00]  No, hold on.
[10:39:00]  100,000, 1 million, 5 million, or 20 million.
[10:39:04]  Which is closer?
[10:39:06]  For the deaths for World War II.
[10:39:07]  Are we talking about war or like?
[10:39:09]  Which one's closer?
[10:39:10]  It wouldn't matter.

=== Kiss Count Pop Stars (05:40) ===

[10:39:11]  I'm going to say between 1 and 5.
[10:39:13]  1 and 5.
[10:39:13]  20 million.
[10:39:16]  5?
[10:39:17]  5 million.
[10:39:18]  5?
[10:39:19]  5 million.
[10:39:19]  20?
[10:39:24]  5.
[10:39:25]  5.
[10:39:27]  20.
[10:39:27]  Oh, sorry.
[10:39:28]  Oh, me.
[10:39:29]  Angelica?
[10:39:30]  20.
[10:39:31]  Okay.
[10:39:32]  All right.
[10:39:34]  I'm going to take a guess.
[10:39:35]  55.
[10:39:36]  I was going to say 50.
[10:39:39]  Can you name three K-pop stars?
[10:39:41]  Wait, give us the answer.
[10:39:43]  K-pop?
[10:39:44]  It's closer to 20, man.
[10:39:45]  I'll go look at that.
[10:39:46]  For K-pop demon hunters?
[10:39:49]  No, three K-pop stars.
[10:39:50]  Name three.
[10:39:53]  K-pop stars?
[10:39:54]  Do you know?
[10:39:54]  Yeah, if you know?
[10:39:57]  Hienna, PSY, and Jenny.
[10:40:03]  Name three Kardashians.
[10:40:07]  Kylie.
[10:40:09]  Damn, bro.
[10:40:09]  Kendall and Chloe.
[10:40:14]  Okay.
[10:40:15]  Kylie's a Jenner.
[10:40:16]  Oh, is it?
[10:40:17]  Wait, question.
[10:40:18]  Is it?
[10:40:18]  We already actually, we already talked about these.
[10:40:21]  Hold on.
[10:40:22]  Yeah, I'll skip those.
[10:40:24]  Okay, hold on.
[10:40:25]  There's just a few more.
[10:40:29]  Do you, going around the table, do you think your looks are average, below average, or above average?
[10:40:36]  Or better, I guess.
[10:40:37]  I'm going to say average.
[10:40:45]  You guys could scoot into like three seconds.
[10:40:48]  Above average.
[10:40:49]  Average.
[10:40:52]  Hello?
[10:40:53]  Average.
[10:40:54]  Average.
[10:40:55]  Okay, do you think you're charismatic?
[10:40:57]  Occasionally.
[10:40:59]  No.
[10:41:00]  Sometimes not particularly.
[10:41:03]  Tiffany, could you give me water?
[10:41:05]  One.
[10:41:06]  Most of the time.
[10:41:07]  Yeah.
[10:41:08]  Yes.
[10:41:10]  Most of the time.
[10:41:12]  Yeah.
[10:41:13]  Yeah.
[10:41:16]  Okay.
[10:41:17]  Do you guys, maybe just by a show of hands, do you think it's sexist for men to have the expectation that women cook, clean, do laundry, and be submissive?
[10:41:25]  Is it sexist?
[10:41:26]  No, no.
[10:41:27]  No, it's a preference.
[10:41:28]  Okay.
[10:41:28]  What percentage of men do you think are over six feet?
[10:41:31]  Oh boy.
[10:41:32]  This is crazy.
[10:41:33]  This might be.
[10:41:34]  Okay.
[10:41:34]  Yeah, go ahead.
[10:41:36]  15.
[10:41:37]  15%?
[10:41:39]  Okay.
[10:41:40]  5%?
[10:41:41]  3?
[10:41:43]  20?
[10:41:44]  14.
[10:41:44]  I'm going to lower my answer to 10.
[10:41:46]  I was going to say 50% because people are short.
[10:41:49]  You guys who are leaning so far away from the mics, you could like preemptively, as the person next to you, their sentence is trailing off.
[10:41:57]  You could just like, instead of burning three seconds, you could just already be up on the mic just saying, but what?
[10:42:03]  Okay, go ahead.
[10:42:04]  20.
[10:42:05]  12.
[10:42:07]  15?
[10:42:10]  I'm going to say 20.
[10:42:11]  We're talking about America, right?
[10:42:13]  Yeah, I was thinking about.
[10:42:14]  Oh.
[10:42:14]  I lost the plot.
[10:42:15]  I'm going to guess 12.
[10:42:16]  I don't know what the question is.
[10:42:18]  Okay, what percentage of men make at least $1 million a year?
[10:42:21]  Ooh, I'd say four.
[10:42:26]  Four percent.
[10:42:28]  One percent, probably.
[10:42:29]  Just go one right after each other.
[10:42:31]  Don't make me have to point to you.
[10:42:32]  Two.
[10:42:33]  One.
[10:42:33]  One.
[10:42:34]  One percent or two percent?
[10:42:36]  I'd say five to ten.
[10:42:37]  One.
[10:42:38]  Zero point one.
[10:42:39]  One.
[10:42:40]  What percentage of men have yachts?
[10:42:44]  What's points?
[10:42:46]  0.3.
[10:42:47]  I don't know.
[10:42:48]  0.3.
[10:42:49]  0.5.
[10:42:50]  Less than 1%.
[10:42:51]  0.2?
[10:42:53]  3?
[10:42:55]  Less than 1, for sure.
[10:42:57]  0.1.
[10:42:59]  Yeah, like one or two.
[10:43:00]  It's not a regular thing.
[10:43:02]  I want to say 15.
[10:43:05]  0.05.
[10:43:06]  15% of men have yachts, okay?
[10:43:08]  5.
[10:43:09]  5% of the men?
[10:43:10]  Less than 1%.
[10:43:12]  Okay.
[10:43:13]  Do any of you keep a list of all the men you've been with on your phone?
[10:43:16]  Like a list of all the guys you've hooked up with?
[10:43:19]  Keep a kiss count.
[10:43:20]  Kiss count?
[10:43:21]  Okay.
[10:43:21]  Nobody.
[10:43:23]  Has anybody... Show of hands, and I'll also answer this.
[10:43:26]  Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
[10:43:29]  Really?
[10:43:30]  Yeah, I have.
[10:43:32]  There we go.
[10:43:32]  There we go.
[10:43:33]  Good sport.
[10:43:34]  I've never.
[10:43:36]  Yeah.
[10:43:37]  If you say so.
[10:43:37]  What do you mean if I say so?
[10:43:38]  If you say so, Shona.
[10:43:40]  Okay.
[10:43:42]  I actually believe her because she mentioned like a kiss count.
[10:43:45]  I actually found her dude.
[10:43:47]  Thanks.
[10:43:49]  Has anyone here ever had a threesome show of hands?
[10:43:53]  Nobody?
[10:43:54]  Nobody here at the table?
[10:43:56]  Really?
[10:43:57]  Not even with El Hefe?
[10:43:59]  No.
[10:44:00]  Not with the boss man.
[10:44:02]  Okay.
[10:44:03]  Anyone had a ho phase?
[10:44:04]  I had a ho phase.
[10:44:05]  It's all good.
[10:44:06]  A what?
[10:44:07]  A ho phase.
[10:44:08]  I mean, how long do you think?
[10:44:08]  Naughty, naughty, naughty does it have to be to be a fish.
[10:44:11]  It wouldn't take.
[10:44:12]  I don't know.
[10:44:13]  It could be three dudes.
[10:44:13]  It could be 100 dudes.
[10:44:15]  In one year?
[10:44:17]  Three to a hundred.
[10:44:19]  That's a big range.
[10:44:21]  Show of hands.
[10:44:21]  Has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period?
[10:44:25]  Two guys?
[10:44:26]  No.
[10:44:26]  24-hour period?
[10:44:28]  Seven-day period?
[10:44:29]  Seven days.
[10:44:30]  Two guys.
[10:44:32]  Three guys?
[10:44:33]  Keep your hands up.
[10:44:34]  Three guys?
[10:44:35]  No, not three guys.
[10:44:36]  Okay.
[10:44:40]  Shona, do you think men suck?
[10:44:43]  Only some.
[10:44:44]  Sometimes.
[10:44:45]  What percent?
[10:44:46]  What percent of men suck?
[10:44:49]  These days, I think 50-50.
[10:44:51]  50%.

=== Fascist Men Percentages (15:30) ===

[10:44:52]  No, I'm just kidding.
[10:44:53]  Hey, don't suck.
[10:44:54]  There's levels to this, okay?
[10:44:55]  There's men that suck a lot.
[10:44:56]  There's men that suck a little bit.
[10:44:57]  There's men that don't suck.
[10:44:59]  Okay, are men the problem?
[10:45:01]  Sometimes.
[10:45:02]  In society?
[10:45:04]  No.
[10:45:05]  In totality?
[10:45:05]  Not necessarily.
[10:45:06]  Are men trash?
[10:45:08]  Some men.
[10:45:09]  Not all.
[10:45:10]  What percent?
[10:45:11]  What percent?
[10:45:12]  What percent of men are trash?
[10:45:14]  Depends on the day.
[10:45:16]  Depends on my mood.
[10:45:17]  Do you hate men?
[10:45:19]  I don't hate men.
[10:45:19]  I think you want me to hate men, though.
[10:45:21]  No, I don't want you to hate men.
[10:45:22]  I think you could clip me.
[10:45:24]  Nah.
[10:45:25]  We did that.
[10:45:26]  We did that.
[10:45:27]  I believe that's it.
[10:45:30]  Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up?
[10:45:33]  Final thoughts?
[10:45:34]  Speak now forever.
[10:45:34]  Hold your beast.
[10:45:38]  What group on the periodic table is hydrogen?
[10:45:41]  Pro.
[10:45:43]  I haven't taken fucking chemistry since fucking high school.
[10:45:46]  That's ridiculous.
[10:45:47]  It's alkaline metal.
[10:45:50]  Huh?
[10:45:50]  No, wait, it's a tough one.
[10:45:51]  Clip it and ship it, boys.
[10:45:52]  Mine's fucking retarded.
[10:45:53]  Wrap it up.
[10:45:54]  All right.
[10:45:54]  Okay, great episode.
[10:45:55]  Great episode.
[10:45:56]  Great opinion.
[10:45:57]  Oh, do you think Trump is a fascist?
[10:46:01]  I wouldn't say a full-on fascist, but he has some strange tendencies.
[10:46:05]  So he's a fascist.
[10:46:08]  Anybody think he's a fascist?
[10:46:10]  No, he's a fascist.
[10:46:12]  Yes, you?
[10:46:13]  Do you think he's a Nazi?
[10:46:14]  Do you think Trump is a Nazi?
[10:46:15]  He's not a Nazi, but he.
[10:46:17]  But he's a fascist.
[10:46:18]  I wouldn't say he's a fascist.
[10:46:20]  I would say sometimes he says things that raise eyebrows, and that might slightly align with some aspects of fascism.
[10:46:26]  Okay.
[10:46:27]  I mean, but that's drama.
[10:46:27]  I mean, that's not a problem.
[10:46:30]  No, you don't know how Trump talks.
[10:46:32]  Him more so, though.
[10:46:33]  I don't like what he's doing with the run right now.
[10:46:35]  What do you think of the USA?
[10:46:36]  I guess that'll be the final one.
[10:46:38]  I think it's a great country, and I'm glad I live here.
[10:46:41]  Although she knows more American history than most Americans, so let's just give her some props there.
[10:46:46]  I think she just brought up the things that she knows.
[10:46:48]  No, she's very sharp.
[10:46:49]  So I think that's why she's not.
[10:46:50]  I think her butthurt that she knows more than you.
[10:46:52]  Oh, she knows.
[10:46:53]  Wow, you're shaking everyone.
[10:46:55]  Actually, she might actually get this because it's not too rare of knowledge.
[10:46:58]  Who brought the Industrial Revolution over from the United Kingdom?
[10:47:01]  Who's the man that did it?
[10:47:04]  Barney.
[10:47:05]  It was in the late 1700s.
[10:47:08]  1700s.
[10:47:09]  1797.
[10:47:10]  Julius Caesar.
[10:47:13]  Is he an American?
[10:47:14]  No, he was a British, and then he moved to America and then spilled all the secret shakes for how to build the factories.
[10:47:19]  Shakes.
[10:47:19]  Oh, you can't.
[10:47:20]  It's Samuel Slater.
[10:47:21]  King Henry.
[10:47:22]  Samuel Who?
[10:47:22]  Samuel Slater.
[10:47:24]  Samuel Slater.
[10:47:25]  Did you hear?
[10:47:26]  Yeah.
[10:47:26]  Yeah.
[10:47:27]  See?
[10:47:27]  Yeah, Shona.
[10:47:28]  See, like, I can write it.
[10:47:29]  There you go.
[10:47:30]  I know.
[10:47:31]  He just got his ego back.
[10:47:33]  That was a random fact.
[10:47:34]  I'm using your logic against you.
[10:47:36]  What's my logic?
[10:47:37]  That, like, oh, you didn't know the president before.
[10:47:39]  You know, I was trolling, right?
[10:47:40]  No, because now that I called you out about your logic, he is so sassy.
[10:47:45]  You know.
[10:47:46]  All these allegations might be true.
[10:47:48]  Yeah, they are true.
[10:47:48]  No, next time you need to take that red tie off and come back with the red tie off.
[10:47:52]  Okay.
[10:47:53]  Pride month special.
[10:47:54]  But if immigrants have to learn American history, like presidents, because they do in order to become an American citizen.
[10:48:00]  Let's see.
[10:48:01]  Troy, thank you for the 10.
[10:48:03]  Blake, thank you for the 10 via Venno.
[10:48:04]  I appreciate it.
[10:48:05]  All right, guys, we're going to get this wrapped up here.
[10:48:07]  I'm trying to just think if there was anything else that I'm forgetting.
[10:48:14]  Name a continent that starts with A.
[10:48:16]  Oh, it's 4 a.m.
[10:48:18]  Oh, fuck.
[10:48:19]  He already asked the continent questions earlier.
[10:48:21]  We already went through all of them.
[10:48:22]  Name a continent that starts with A. Why are you turning her all this light?
[10:48:25]  Name another one?
[10:48:27]  She's dying, folks.
[10:48:28]  I am.
[10:48:28]  She's dying.
[10:48:29]  America.
[10:48:30]  Get her on a ventilator.
[10:48:32]  Stat.
[10:48:33]  On the continent of Australia.
[10:48:34]  Who did?
[10:48:35]  Riley, Riley, Riley, Riley.
[10:48:36]  Your mama.
[10:48:37]  Okay.
[10:48:38]  Hey.
[10:48:39]  Do you know the entire lyrics to Eminem's song Superman?
[10:48:43]  I bet you don't.
[10:48:45]  I don't want to know that.
[10:48:46]  This guy.
[10:48:47]  Yeah.
[10:48:47]  That's right.
[10:48:48]  Do you know all the lyrics to Blank Space by Taylor Swift?
[10:48:50]  What the fuck?
[10:48:52]  I do and I'm the number one Taylor Swift.
[10:48:54]  Do you know all the lyrics to Nick Minaj?
[10:48:56]  Taylor Swift is a cancer and a plague on this society.
[10:49:00]  I highly agree.
[10:49:01]  I don't like Taylor Swift.
[10:49:02]  What's that song that goes like, do you know that song?
[10:49:09]  She made up this whole story with her manager to pretend she's like some boss bitch that won her contract back over.
[10:49:15]  Does anybody know that?
[10:49:16]  And I asked a betting field.
[10:49:17]  Yeah, wait, how's it going?
[10:49:19]  It's unwritten.
[10:49:20]  What is it?
[10:49:22]  How did you get that from that?
[10:49:24]  Because I'm a musician.
[10:49:27]  She gets that shit.
[10:49:28]  All right, guys, I got to wrap it up.
[10:49:29]  This is, I think, our longest stream ever.
[10:49:31]  We have World Record.
[10:49:32]  Yeah.
[10:49:33]  World Record Whatever podcast with Sean in the studio.
[10:49:36]  With Riley in the studio.
[10:49:38]  With someone who's dying in the studio.
[10:49:41]  My bad.
[10:49:41]  Just kidding.
[10:49:42]  I know your names.
[10:49:43]  Brian, wait.
[10:49:45]  We're quizzing you.
[10:49:46]  What are all of our names?
[10:49:47]  No.
[10:49:48]  Your name is Gertrude.
[10:49:51]  Don't act like you forgot.
[10:49:52]  My name is Amaranth.
[10:49:55]  He knows her name.
[10:49:56]  Amaranth.
[10:49:57]  Emaris.
[10:49:58]  Yeah, you're close.
[10:50:00]  Your name is Diamond.
[10:50:02]  No.
[10:50:02]  Baxter.
[10:50:03]  We're not going to go with it.
[10:50:05]  Your name is Samuel Slater?
[10:50:09]  I was about to say Sam, actually.
[10:50:10]  Very important guy, actually.
[10:50:12]  Okay, guys.
[10:50:13]  So I got to wrap the show, but wow.
[10:50:16]  Congrats, guys.
[10:50:17]  Should we stay another 10 to push it to 11 hours?
[10:50:20]  Nah, I don't think so.
[10:50:22]  You know what?
[10:50:23]  I'll wait for another stream.
[10:50:24]  You might collapse on live stream TV.
[10:50:26]  I got class in the morning.
[10:50:27]  Did you have COVID or something?
[10:50:28]  Well, actually, when I flew through the road, we've never actually.
[10:50:33]  Wow, they had Philadelphia.
[10:50:34]  Wait, what time is the sunrise?
[10:50:35]  I flew in winter.
[10:50:37]  She has a lot of fun.
[10:50:39]  Yeah, I got to get out of here.
[10:50:40]  We're wrap.
[10:50:41]  We'll wrap.
[10:50:42]  One day, I think I'll do a 24-hour stream, though.
[10:50:45]  One day, one day.
[10:50:46]  Not tonight, though.
[10:50:47]  And you're making through that.
[10:50:48]  You're going to need more than 24.
[10:50:49]  No, wait, I'll make it through that.
[10:50:51]  I've been in them for 24 hours at this point.
[10:50:54]  Oh, shit.
[10:50:55]  Washing girl.
[10:50:56]  Yeah, I woke up at 5:30.
[10:50:58]  Let's go.
[10:50:59]  She killed it with the math.
[10:51:00]  She did kill me.
[10:51:02]  You're very good at math.
[10:51:03]  I'm jealous.
[10:51:04]  Thank you.
[10:51:05]  Oh, man.
[10:51:06]  Hey, but congrats, guys.
[10:51:08]  You guys are part of history.
[10:51:10]  Longest, whatever.
[10:51:10]  I believe it's the longest whatever podcast ever.
[10:51:14]  And I was on here.
[10:51:15]  There you go.
[10:51:16]  You should have seen all the ones showed up rage baiting.
[10:51:21]  I only mentioned black people.
[10:51:22]  Two people, okay?
[10:51:24]  We're going to mention a black friend.
[10:51:25]  You have to come up to my people like that.
[10:51:27]  You know, you might look at me and be like, my team, they want to get out of here.
[10:51:32]  You guys might look at me like, Brian, why did this go so long?
[10:51:36]  I want to place blame.
[10:51:39]  You talked too much.
[10:51:42]  You talk too much.
[10:51:43]  And you talk too much.
[10:51:45]  You guys were way too talkative tonight.
[10:51:46]  You've forgotten.
[10:51:47]  I talked too much.
[10:51:48]  She's going to be sarcastic.
[10:51:49]  You've got to be sarcastic.
[10:51:50]  Yeah, you guys talked way too much.
[10:51:52]  It was really rude.
[10:51:53]  I wish you'd let you gave a bit more space for Anna to speak, to be honest.
[10:51:58]  I would have appreciated that.
[10:51:59]  A little more space for me.
[10:52:01]  I'll be back for you.
[10:52:02]  For Anna over there, and for Shona to speak, and for Angelica.
[10:52:06]  You know, you guys greedy.
[10:52:07]  She really got crowded out.
[10:52:09]  Yeah, you guys were very greedy, all of you.
[10:52:12]  And I just, I actually think you guys should apologize for how rude you were.
[10:52:16]  I'm so sorry.
[10:52:17]  I'm such a bitch.
[10:52:19]  I'm bowing.
[10:52:20]  Wait, let me bow.
[10:52:22]  I'm so sorry.
[10:52:23]  There you go.
[10:52:24]  I feel like I made my show.
[10:52:25]  I'm going to break longer.
[10:52:27]  Well, you said if you're coming from.
[10:52:28]  I would never speak again.
[10:52:30]  You said, if you're coming from another state, make the best of it.
[10:52:33]  Don't come here talking all this high stuff and then come here and sit.
[10:52:35]  So I do that, and then it's like, shut up.
[10:52:38]  What do you want from me?
[10:52:40]  Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
[10:52:42]  You know, it's true.
[10:52:43]  I flew from Arkansas.
[10:52:44]  I went to urgent hair on Friday.
[10:52:47]  I was completely sick, and I'm still here.
[10:52:49]  You're sick?
[10:52:49]  You're sick?
[10:52:51]  Obviously, my athletes.
[10:52:53]  My asthma.
[10:52:54]  Like, I have it.
[10:52:55]  I swear to God, if I start coughing tomorrow, I'm going to come fucking.
[10:52:57]  No, no, it's my asthma.
[10:52:58]  I'm just going to stab you and shit you.
[10:53:00]  Allegedly.
[10:53:01]  It's not, it's just my asthma.
[10:53:02]  It's like, oh, I highly rubbed off my blind.
[10:53:05]  Have you.
[10:53:05]  Can you show us your knuckles?
[10:53:07]  Like, put your knuckles.
[10:53:10]  That's very random.
[10:53:11]  Wow, that's.
[10:53:13]  Is there something you want to tell us?
[10:53:15]  I hit my hand on the dresser.
[10:53:16]  The dresser.
[10:53:17]  Is that what you call a man?
[10:53:19]  No.
[10:53:20]  Hey, I have to show it too.
[10:53:21]  Violence.
[10:53:22]  And I literally always have a famous partner and I hit my hand on the dresser.
[10:53:26]  Violent, abusive women in this podcast.
[10:53:29]  You said you would hit a woman.
[10:53:33]  At least we need my guy deserving.
[10:53:34]  I would never hit a woman.
[10:53:35]  I don't know.
[10:53:36]  Mine's like a spark from a Tiffany's actually, she's very violent, Tiffany.
[10:53:42]  From what I heard, she would be violent if I worked for you too while you were talking to her earlier.
[10:53:49]  Is this rage bait or something?
[10:53:50]  I was a little sassy today.
[10:53:52]  I was a little sassy.
[10:53:53]  You want to treat your employees?
[10:53:54]  No.
[10:53:55]  You're like Ebenezer Scrooge over here.
[10:53:57]  I am Ebenezer.
[10:53:58]  I am fucking Scrooge.
[10:54:00]  I like that.
[10:54:00]  That's a good one.
[10:54:01]  All right.
[10:54:01]  Let me wrap it.
[10:54:02]  Okay, Gigi.
[10:54:04]  Well played.
[10:54:04]  Gigi.
[10:54:05]  Well played.
[10:54:06]  Thank you guys.
[10:54:07]  Last call.
[10:54:08]  Hit the like button, please.
[10:54:12]  Put the little like the video thing up.
[10:54:14]  Guys, like the video if you enjoyed the stream.
[10:54:17]  Please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
[10:54:20]  I read them.
[10:54:21]  Positivity is nice.
[10:54:22]  Helps with the algorithm.
[10:54:23]  Thank you for tuning in tonight.
[10:54:24]  You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
[10:54:27]  I appreciate that.
[10:54:29]  Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
[10:54:32]  Big shout out to everybody who sent in a TTS.
[10:54:35]  Especially big shout out to our boy, Robert Tanner.
[10:54:38]  I don't know if you're still watching, but three champagne pops.
[10:54:41]  This guy's a fucking legend.
[10:54:42]  Thank you, man.
[10:54:43]  Really appreciate it.
[10:54:44]  We're going to be live Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
[10:54:47]  I might do something during the week potentially, but probably not.
[10:54:50]  But who knows?
[10:54:51]  Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
[10:54:55]  I promise the show will not be this long.
[10:54:58]  Come on, it.
[10:54:59]  07s.
[10:55:01]  07s.
[10:55:02]  This is what happens when an overbook actually, like everybody shows up.
[10:55:05]  So fuck.
[10:55:06]  07s.
[10:55:07]  I feel like we're forgetting something, but at this point, tough.
[10:55:12]  07s in the chat.
[10:55:14]  Good night, guys.
[10:55:15]  Good night, guys.
[10:55:16]  And we will see you guys next time.
[10:55:20]  All right.
[10:55:20]  Good night.
[10:55:22]  All right.
[10:55:22]  Really quick before everybody gets up.
[10:55:24]  We are wrapped up.
[10:55:25]  Just curious, did anyone want to?
[10:55:27]  Did anybody like lie about anything?
[10:55:29]  Just curious.
[10:55:31]  We're still live, aren't we?
[10:55:32]  It's wrapped up.
[10:55:33]  No, it's wrapped.
[10:55:34]  Turn the cameras off.
[10:55:35]  I don't.
[10:55:36]  No, the stream's off.
[10:55:37]  Yeah, I'm actually a concern.
[10:55:39]  Did anybody like want to?
[10:55:42]  Did anybody lie about their body count?
[10:55:44]  Like, want to reveal their truth?
[10:55:45]  If the camera's not rolling, I'll say.
[10:55:48]  Don't ruin a relationship.
[10:55:50]  Come on.
[10:55:51]  I didn't think it was 1920s.
[10:55:58]  Okay.
[10:55:59]  Brian, what's your body count?
[10:56:00]  Yeah.
[10:56:01]  I'm a virgin.
[10:56:02]  Oh, okay.
[10:56:03]  I'm looking for a woman to be my first.
[10:56:06]  I've never seen this podcast end.
[10:56:09]  I've always fallen asleep.
[10:56:10]  Oh, my God.
[10:56:10]  Fucking.
[10:56:11]  I'm sorry.
[10:56:11]  I have new staff and they did not.
[10:56:14]  Nate, bro.
[10:56:15]  Tiffany, what the fuck?
[10:56:17]  Tiffany.
[10:56:22]  Tiffany's life matters.
[10:56:25]  It was a setup question.
[10:56:29]  We're so close to 11 hours.
[10:56:46]  Yeah, we're three minutes.
[10:56:47]  Was that still live?
[10:56:49]  We're three minutes.
[10:56:50]  Should we just.
[10:56:51]  Wait, wait, chat.
[10:56:52]  Should we go?
[10:56:53]  Should we just go?
[10:56:55]  Should we make it to 11?
[10:56:56]  Yeah.
[10:56:56]  Should we make it to 11?
[10:56:57]  Literally three minutes out.
[10:56:59]  If I don't get a fucking TTS, I need a $200 TTS and I'll go to 11 hours.
[10:57:05]  Three minutes.
[10:57:06]  If I don't get it at 10.59.59, you hit that end button.
[10:57:15]  Is it still rolling?
[10:57:16]  Yeah, it's still going.
[10:57:17]  Oh, God.
[10:57:17]  Okay, that's cool.
[10:57:21]  And look at all these people in the chat.
[10:57:22]  They were here for it.
[10:57:23]  I need to see a fucking TTS.
[10:57:25]  Otherwise, I'm depriving you.
[10:57:26]  Yeah, it's a grift.
[10:57:27]  Yeah, I'm fucking grifting.
[10:57:29]  I need to see.
[10:57:30]  We got two minutes and 30 seconds left.
[10:57:33]  I need to see a TTS right now.
[10:57:35]  $200 TTS.
[10:57:36]  If I don't, I'm depriving you.
[10:57:38]  I'm going to fucking deprive you guys.
[10:57:40]  Hey, if you get the $200 TTS, you have to reveal your actual body count.
[10:57:44]  Nah.
[10:57:45]  I can't.
[10:57:45]  What's your amount for that?
[10:57:47]  Give us a ballpark.
[10:57:48]  10 grand?
[10:57:49]  One Bitcoin.
[10:57:49]  I'll do it.
[10:57:50]  Okay, well.
[10:57:50]  One Bitcoin.
[10:57:51]  You got something?
[10:57:52]  I mean, hey, at this rate, dude, I used to have half one, actually.
[10:57:54]  Oh, shit.
[10:57:55]  Nice.
[10:57:57]  Okay.
[10:57:58]  Hey, I'll give it one minute.
[10:58:00]  But I'll end it at 10.59 if I don't see a TTS.
[10:58:03]  Is this a little grift?
[10:58:04]  A little grifty?
[10:58:05]  Is this a game?
[10:58:06]  That's okay.
[10:58:06]  Take the L. Please take the L. Am I abusing?
[10:58:09]  No, we're so close.
[10:58:10]  I'll give them.
[10:58:11]  They have 50 seconds.
[10:58:12]  You need to take advantage of the parasocial relationship.
[10:58:14]  There you go.
[10:58:16]  There you have it, folks.
[10:58:18]  Okay, there's this one that's not a TTS, but you can show that.
[10:58:21]  You can show it.
[10:58:22]  Big Labia Matter BLM.
[10:58:24]  Oh, oh, shit.
[10:58:26]  Okay, well, there it is.
[10:58:27]  Daddy never did it.
[10:58:29]  He did it.
[10:58:29]  Okay, don't go.
[10:58:30]  Oh, yeah.
[10:58:32]  He's the goat.
[10:58:33]  Nice.
[10:58:35]  Hey, this guy was talking shit about me earlier.
[10:58:36]  I forgot what it was.
[10:58:38]  You just remember the name Zaddy.
[10:58:39]  Say his name again.
[10:58:40]  It is Daddy Nevin.
[10:58:42]  That's what did he say?
[10:58:44]  Yeah, most people call him Nevin, but I have my own name for him.
[10:58:49]  What does it say?
[10:58:49]  This is for him.
[10:58:50]  Heck, yeah.
[10:58:51]  The syntax.
[10:58:52]  Thanks.
[10:58:53]  Syntax.
[10:58:55]  Paid.
[10:58:55]  We go for, it looks like another minute.
[10:58:58]  We have a minute there on the.
[10:59:00]  You know what'd be fucked up?
[10:59:01]  I thought you said 1059.
[10:59:03]  What's that?
[10:59:04]  You said 1059.
[10:59:06]  Yeah, I have to go to 11.
[10:59:07]  College is a scandal.
[10:59:08]  Young women should not go to college.
[10:59:10]  Although, I'm wondering if our OBS is different than to 11 and 30 seconds or something like that.
[10:59:24]  I mean, we could just do like 12 at that point.
[10:59:26]  Please.
[10:59:27]  You're so right.
[10:59:29]  I can't do that.
[10:59:30]  Fucking Nate over there is going to fucking talk and we'll make 10.
[10:59:36]  Let's do the rest of the stream.
[10:59:37]  No, Riley.
[10:59:38]  Riley, I was going to ask what denominational.
[10:59:40]  Not denominational.
[10:59:41]  Okay.
[10:59:41]  I'm figuring it out.
[10:59:42]  We're never Christian humans now.
[10:59:44]  Riley.
[10:59:44]  Riley, holy crap.
[10:59:46]  It's okay.
[10:59:48]  Say it in a high-pitched voice.
[10:59:50]  No, I will not do that.
[10:59:51]  I know you want to, Riley.
[10:59:53]  I will do some.
[10:59:54]  Never mind.
[10:59:56]  What will you do, Ryan?
[10:59:57]  I'll do an accent.
[11:00:00]  Do an Indian accent.
[11:00:01]  I don't know how to do that.
[11:00:02]  I can do like a southern accent, though.
[11:00:04]  We hit 11.
[11:00:05]  We hit 11.
[11:00:06]  I'll let it go for like 30 seconds just so it doesn't fuck it up on YouTube.
[11:00:10]  It'll be like 1059 or something.
[11:00:13]  That in like a British accent.
[11:00:14]  I had a childhood friend sub on Twitch out of nowhere.
[11:00:17]  Oh, I saw his name pop up, and I was like, Yeah, my brother-in-law subbed to Twitch while the stream was on.

=== Appreciate 07 Chat Guys (01:19) ===

[11:00:23]  Shout out.
[11:00:24]  Hey, Jake.
[11:00:26]  I can do like an upper crusty British accent, like, hmm, Tiffany, dear.
[11:00:32]  Go get me my loafers, Tiffany.
[11:00:34]  Go.
[11:00:36]  Want.
[11:00:37]  Chop, chop, Tiffany.
[11:00:38]  Get me my loafers.
[11:00:40]  Indeed.
[11:00:41]  Get me some bagel bites, dear.
[11:00:44]  I don't think they're amused.
[11:00:46]  They're not amused.
[11:00:46]  They don't like it.
[11:00:47]  Okay.
[11:00:47]  It was okay.
[11:00:50]  You're southern now.
[11:00:52]  Yep.
[11:00:52]  Okay.
[11:00:52]  All right.
[11:00:53]  Guys, like the video.
[11:00:54]  07's in the chat.
[11:00:56]  07's in the chat.
[11:00:57]  We need another donation from Daddy now.
[11:01:02]  We got wrapped.
[11:01:02]  We got wrapped.
[11:01:03]  Deuces.
[11:01:03]  All right.
[11:01:04]  You guys were good sports.
[11:01:05]  Thank you, everybody.
[11:01:05]  You guys were a wonderful panel.
[11:01:07]  I really enjoyed you guys.
[11:01:08]  Thank you so much for coming on and for being patient.
[11:01:13]  We did go really fucking late.
[11:01:15]  Yeah.
[11:01:17]  Thanks for the dominoes.
[11:01:19]  This was great.
[11:01:20]  It closed.
[11:01:21]  I was going to get it, but the fucking clothes, so I had to give you poverty bagel buddies.
[11:01:26]  Anyways, but thank you guys.
[11:01:28]  You guys were fantastic.
[11:01:29]  I really appreciate it.
[11:01:30]  07's in the chat, guys.
[11:01:33]  We made history tonight.
[11:01:34]  Longest whatever stream ever.
[11:01:36]  Hey, we'll do a 12-hour one sometime soon.
[11:01:39]  All right, 07s, guys.
[11:01:40]  Good night, and we'll see you next time.