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Brian GOES OFF! Man vs. Bear HEATED DEBATE?! She's Single BUT STILL Sees Her Ex?! | Dating Talk #157

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	Okay.
	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
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	Hi, I'm Adeline Starr.
	I am 26.
	I live in LA, originally from Texas.
	I am a kick streamer and OnlyFans model.
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	Do you see anything weird going on in chat, Nick?
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	What's your, sorry, what's your age again?
	26.
	26.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name's Rohima.
	I'm 28 years old.
	I live in Los Angeles and I am a social media manager.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	Hi, I'm Jordan.
	I'm 25.
	I live in Riverside, and me and my husband own a gym in Riverside.
	Okay.
	Welcome.
	Hi, I'm Jade Warwick.
	I'm 26.
	I'm from the UK.
	I live in Seattle, and I'm a film producer.
	What part of the UK are you from originally?
	Wales.
	Okay.
	Do you speak Welsh?
	Is it?
	I grew up speaking Welsh.
	Can we hear a little demonstration?
	My favorite sentence, it doesn't really make sense, but it's my babinyasi a pilipala, apaskodin, wibbly wobbly, una popity ping.
	Absolutely.
	Yep, I agree.
	I'll tell you what that means later.
	Wait, so is there, what is what is Gaelic?
	Is that it's like is that a Welsh language?
	It's a Celtic language that came from the Welsh language.
	It's in Ireland and Scotland.
	So you don't speak.
	I don't speak Gaelic.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Lauren, what about you?
	My name is Lauren.
	I'm 31 years old and I am a courtesan at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch and a student.
	Okay.
	And for those who don't know, when you say courtesan, what does that mean?
	So I'm a legal legal girlfriend at, or I would say, yeah, legal, courtesan, legal escort at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.
	And it's, yeah, 100% legal in Nevada.
	It's like carnal knowledge.
	Yes.
	Carnal knowledge.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Hi, my name is Ashley.
	I'm 25 years old and I'm in real estate and I'm studying interior design.
	All right, welcome.
	I'm Natalie.
	I'm 32 years old.
	I live in LA and I'm a content creator.
	Like politics.
	Okay, gotcha.
	I'm the QP, 31 from Raleigh, North Carolina.
	I'm a behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, and a YouTuber, book author.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single?
	Talking stage.
	Situationship, friends with benefits, married, polycule, sex cult, harem, whatever it may be.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am.
	The audio is muted.
	Oh.
	You're fine.
	No, you're fine.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I'm in a relationship.
	Were you in a relationship last time?
	I was.
	Okay.
	How long have you been in that relationship?
	About five months now, six months.
	How did you guys meet?
	We met through a mutual friend.
	Is he in the industry?
	He is in the industry as well.
	Yes.
	He slangs.
	Does he slang?
	He does.
	He slangs.
	Yes.
	But only me now.
	Only slangs you.
	Yes.
	He used to slang others.
	Yes.
	Now only slangs you.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you said it's been going for five to six months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Did you say longest relationship?
	My longest is two years.
	Two years.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was five years.
	I've been single for like four years.
	Single for four years, longest five years.
	Was the one that ended four years ago your five-year relationship?
	It was.
	Why did he dump you?
	We were stuck in Bali and it was COVID.
	And we just were like, let's not do this anymore.
	While you were stuck in Bali?
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	So you were, did you break up with him and then you but.
	When we had to live together for eight months and we're like, yeah, maybe no.
	So did you guys, like, did one of you come back to the States?
	No, we both wanted to stay in Bali, but we had like an apartment there and it was COVID.
	So wait, were you guys still cohabitating while like through the breakup?
	Yeah, because COVID.
	And then even while you were single, you guys were still cohabitating?
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	And you're dating for?
	Yeah.
	It was great.
	So how long were you cohabitating for while you were split?
	Like a year.
	We lived together, split up.
	But after COVID, so I would not recommend it in a normal situation.
	But you were living together prior to COVID.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	So then.
	But then it was.
	So do you think COVID precipitated the breakup?
	Probably the inevitable.
	But you're already living together.
	Was it just like you were too much together?
	You couldn't go outside.
	Ah, so you're stuck in there.
	Yeah, we both like to go outside.
	Was it strict in Indonesia?
	Yeah.
	You couldn't go out?
	Yeah, couldn't surf, couldn't do anything.
	Or you're a surfer?
	He's a surfer.
	He's a pro-surfer?
	He's a surfer, yeah.
	Wait.
	Is it Rizzle?
	Tanjung?
	He's a surfer.
	Wait, you dated the mayor of Bali?
	Absolutely.
	That's Rizzle.
	I'm pretty sure I think if I recall, Nick, could you go go Rizzle Tanjung?
	He's a pro surfer from Indonesia.
	Oh, my God.
	Bali.
	It's a quick note.
	Yeah, you brought up the surfing info.
	I know about the, you know, I surf.
	So, wait, find this guy.
	I used to watch his surfing videos all the time.
	Like, did you find him?
	Rizzle, R-I-Z-A-L.
	Tanjung.
	I think it's T-A-N-J-U-N-G.
	He probably got a Wikipedia, bro.
	This guy's the mayor of Bali.
	I love myself.
	Find his Wikipedia.
	Find his Wikipedia.
	She dated the mayor of Bali, whatever exclusive here.
	Sure.
	Just go along with it.
	I guess just go along with it at this point.
	You have it, Nick.
	Wikipedia.
	Oh, my God.
	He doesn't have his own.
	Oh, just good.
	But usually there's like a Google profile.
	Just show the Google results for you.
	For Rizzle.
	You got it?
	Let's see the spelling on this.
	Let's see how Nick does with Indonesian.
	It was close.
	It was close.
	All caps too.
	Rizzle, bro.
	What the?
	How are you going to put it?
	Rizzle.
	Not that kind of thing.
	Yeah, you didn't hear me say R-I-Z-A-L?
	I actually had his last name right.
	Rizzle Tanjung, first Indonesian.
	Oh my, geez, what is going on?
	Pull up his IG.
	Pull up his IG.
	There he is, Rizzle.
	So this is your ex-boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Look at this.
	I love her.
	Look at this legend.
	Scroll down, Nick.
	Damn, bro.
	Look at those acts here.
	Profile.
	God damn, bro.
	Bali had like one of the top surf spots in the world.
	So is this your boyfriend?
	That's my husband, yeah.
	Your husband?
	What a legend.
	There he is with, is that?
	No, that's not Kelly.
	Who?
	What?
	Is the other one Kelly?
	Wait, hold on, go back up.
	Is that Kelly?
	None of these were my ex-boyfriend.
	What's that, Madison?
	Fisher?
	Who?
	Fisher.
	You know surfers?
	That's Fisher.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, all right.
	So you weren't dating Rizzle Tanjung?
	I mean.
	No.
	Okay, just wait.
	I don't know why I go on these, I go on these tangents.
	I waste three minutes.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you, Jordan?
	Married, and this is my longest relationship.
	Five years.
	Five years.
	Wait, Raheem, all right?
	Coming back to you for just a sec, because I forgot what my follow-up was going to be.
	So you were cohabitating, you said for like eight months, nine months?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So were you guys dating other people during this time period while you were still cohabitating after the breakup?
	Yeah.
	So you would bring, like, you'd bring back some like hot indo dude.
	He'd bring back some like Bolly chicken.
	You'd bring back Rizzle, yeah.
	You brought back Rizzle.
	Yeah.
	Rizzle for Shizzle.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So.
	But you actually, like, you were dating while still cohabitating with your ex, is that correct?
	Yeah.
	How big was this house?
	Like huge.
	You could have a house.
	You got a huge house in Bolly.
	Like nothing.
	I couldn't do it, even if we were exes.
	You got to stay outside.
	Hearing your girlfriend having sex.
	Yeah, that's.
	You got to move.
	Anyways, okay.
	So you were both bringing people back to the house, though?
	I mean, it wasn't like.
	Yeah, there were people coming in and going.
	Okay.
	You take Wednesdays, I take Thursdays.
	Word.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	What was the question again?
	Oh, current relationship status.
	Okay, in a relationship.
	It's the longest one so far, and it's been three years.
	Three years?
	How did you guys meet?
	I was working at a bar, and he came in, and he was on a date with someone else and was hitting someone.
	Watch!
	Wait.
	He was on a date with someone else.
	He was.
	And then you were just there.
	I was just working at the barmate.
	Oh, you were working?
	I was like trying to give him drinks and stuff, and he was hitting on me.
	And I was like, I don't do this thing, but like, if you're single, come back, and, you know, you'll get my number.
	And he came back the same time a week later, and he was like, I broke up with them.
	I was like, them?
	That's plural.
	And yeah, and then we've been together ever since.
	We broke up with them.
	So he was dating multiple women.
	He broke up with them the second time, like prior to the second time he saw you?
	Yes.
	In that mantech, thank you.
	Is he?
	Wait, so just a couple clarifying questions.
	Yeah.
	Was that the first date that he was on at that point?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, he was dating that girl.
	It was in Seattle, and it was like that poly situation where they're kind of just seeing a few people at a time.
	And I'm like, listen, I don't do that, but if you want to try the other thing, hit me up.
	What's the other thing?
	The monogamous one.
	Okay.
	Well, at the time, were you seeing anybody?
	No.
	Not even nobody?
	You worked at a bar?
	You had no prospects and you were involved in the nightlife?
	Yeah.
	It happens.
	I know.
	okay so uh you he was on a so this girl he was in a engaged in a sexual relationship with her Indeed.
	And in front of her, he hit on you.
	She was hitting on me, too.
	It was that poly situation, like I said.
	What the fuck is going on in Seattle?
	God damn.
	Flattered, but no, thank you.
	Okay, so, and he was...
	Straight out your chair.
	Straight out with the table, yeah.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	No, you're good.
	All right.
	So you said he was involved with multiple people.
	Yeah, I never met him.
	Did you know how many he was?
	No, I didn't want to know.
	Does it, I mean, do you have any concern for your monogamous relationship, given this man's proclivity to be involved with multiple people at the same time?
	Yes, I'm very health conscious, and so when we started seeing each other, that was a long time before we were intimate, and I made sure that we were both fully tested before anything happened that could lead to a transmission.
	Well, I'm not even talking about V D. I'm talking more so about potential infidelity.
	Because if he's inclined to want to be dating multiple people at the same time when you met him, he hit on you in front of the girl he was currently fucking.
	It occurs to me that unless he's had a total 180 in his conduct, this guy's going to probably, I don't want to throw this guy under the bus, but you think he's going to be loyal to you?
	I think so.
	Literally?
	Even right now, like, would you be in here on this trip?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think so.
	Well, I guess they have been dating for three years, but it's like he hit on you.
	I know, I guess he was angling for threesome, but like he hit on you in front of the girl he was currently having sex with.
	If he's, that's pretty, I mean, I guess you were angling for threesome, so.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I do believe that people can change.
	And if he wanted to try the monogamy thing and he ended up preferring it, then that's good for him.
	Some people prefer being poly and that's fine too.
	It's just not for me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Lauren, what about you?
	So my longest relationship?
	Current relationship status?
	No relationship right now.
	So single?
	Single, yeah.
	All right.
	And then longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	All right.
	And you are a courtesan.
	Yes.
	How many?
	So those are kind of temporary relationships.
	Of a sexual nature.
	So it's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Like I've known some clients for like five to seven years and then my own relationships have only lasted like three.
	And I always find it's because I love to change and I love to just try new things and do new stuff.
	And then if it's like the same, I don't mind it.
	But I think then it, if it starts depleting me, then I'm like, all right, well, I'll mention something.
	And if I mention something and then it doesn't work, then that's how it goes.
	Okay.
	Could you ever see yourself dating one of your customers?
	You know, I think that like there is that fantasy there.
	I think I'm someone that like I own my problem is I only live in the moment and I never think about the future.
	And that's like my biggest issue.
	And so I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen like in that next chapter.
	I don't, I don't know.
	So maybe.
	Okay.
	I know that sounds so weird, but I just like to do a lot of stuff and plan to do a lot of stuff, but I don't know like what's going to happen.
	But do you get like any guys hitting on you at all?
	For at the at the ranch?
	No, like for a relationship?
	I do.
	And then I do get guys hitting on me, but then sometimes I wonder if it's just like a fantasy thing.
	Because, you know, the bunny ranch and all that.
	And so I'm wondering if it's just that.
	So I wonder, you know, is it for real?
	For real?
	But I've, yeah, I've only had like intimate, you know, relationships, I guess, years ago.
	So I guess we'll see what happens.
	Like, are there no guys sliding into your DMs?
	There are, but sometimes when they slide in, I'll, you know, I will, I like that a guy has social media because it shows that like, you know, he has an image or something to protect.
	Even if it's not like he's got like a million followers or something, he, he has something.
	He shows up in the world as a way.
	And I feel like if someone's like, no, I don't have anything, I get kind of nervous.
	I'm like, oh, what are you hiding?
	But I have guys reaching out to me, but sometimes I think that the old me would have loved to date them, but I think that the new me would it's a little tough.
	Yeah.
	Wait, do you want to get married one day?
	I mean, if it happens, that would be cool, but like, I won't, like, I never bank on anything that like I can't control because that's just one way to like avoid unhappiness.
	So I just like, if it comes, I'm like, cool, like, I guess we're doing it.
	And if it doesn't, then I'm like, well, at least I didn't bank on it.
	And now I don't feel any shame for doing that.
	So do you want kids?
	That would be really fun.
	I think.
	I think that would be a, I think that would be a good time.
	I have some concerns about me having kids, but I think it would be fun.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was four years.
	Hold on.
	I have just a question here, though.
	Well, how long have you been single?
	Like a year.
	One year.
	Yeah.
	And the one that ended a year ago, was that the four-year relationship?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	A question, though, I think in your pre-show notes, you did indicate that you're single but still figuring things out with your ex.
	Could you clarify on that?
	Yeah, it's really complicated.
	He's like my best friend.
	So I've known him for like.
	Is that the four year?
	Mm-hmm.
	So you're single, but still figuring out with your ex who you dated for four years.
	Right.
	And you guys officially broke up one year ago.
	Yeah.
	When's the last time you saw him in person?
	Yesterday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yesterday, this morning.
	Bro.
	Watch!
	Yeah, it's complicated.
	Is it complicated?
	It is.
	Wait, so were you for the four-year period, was it, were you monogamous?
	Yeah, I was.
	Was it, oh, you were?
	Yeah.
	So he was, was it open on his end or was he cheating on you?
	He was fucking around, yeah.
	He was doing that.
	But was it, hold on.
	But was it, was it open on his end?
	No, it was not open.
	Okay, so he was cheating on you.
	How many women did he cheat on you with?
	Well, we were on a break and we both agreed that we wouldn't cheat.
	Or I'm sorry, we wouldn't hook up with anybody.
	But he did.
	So I count that as cheating.
	Who initiated the break?
	It was like mutual.
	Mutual.
	It was mutual.
	Why?
	What prompted that?
	We were fighting a lot.
	And so we just thought we needed some time apart because we didn't want to end it completely.
	What?
	Say it.
	What do you think, Q?
	What are you thinking here?
	I'm thinking if you were going to work it out, y'all should have stayed together.
	You can't say he cheated because y'all won't want to break and he smashed someone.
	Well, there's like other things to it, too.
	There was other stuff, you know.
	It's not just that one thing.
	There was like other occasions.
	It was just a lot.
	It was just a lot.
	And he's older than me, so I feel like right now I'm 25 and I'm at my prime.
	How old is he?
	He's 31.
	Okay.
	Is he not at his prime?
	Well, yeah, but like me, more so me.
	You're more at your prime.
	Yeah, I'm more at your prime.
	Wait, so how many times, because you said you were on a break, right?
	Had that happened multiple times that you guys were.
	No, we were on a break.
	We were on and off and off again.
	Yeah.
	Oh, multiple times.
	Multiple times.
	How many times were you, would you say you were off and on for the duration of the probably like three times of those three times who initiated the off?
	I guess it was both of us, but like we would take turns, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Well, so once you, once him, two times him, two times you would say like half, half.
	You say it three times.
	Well, till the end of it, right?
	Oh, okay.
	What did you guys fight about?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Well, it was my first time living with the guy, so like, you know, living with someone is like a whole different experience.
	And I have certain OCD tendencies.
	And when you say OCD tendencies, what are we talking about?
	Just like the way the kitchen needs to be seen.
	Yeah.
	Just like cleansiness, like stuff like that.
	Well, that's not, I don't think that's OCD if you prefer a clean.
	Well, he's a really clean guy.
	Like, I'm not saying that he wasn't clean.
	Oh, so he was more clean than you.
	No, I was more the clean one, the more OCD one, for sure.
	Just like stuff like that.
	And it kind of just, you know.
	Was it his place or yours?
	It was his place.
	Were you paying rent?
	No.
	Okay.
	So you were starting fights with him at his place where he paid rent about the nature of his apartment.
	Did you have your own place at this time?
	No.
	Okay, so you were.
	How soon into the relationship did you start living with him?
	Probably a year.
	A year in?
	Okay.
	Yeah, but I had known him since I was 15.
	And we started dating.
	Wait, hold on.
	We started dating when I was 21.
	Was he like a family friend or something?
	Family friend.
	Is that a little bit of impropriety there?
	I'm not sure.
	Why?
	It depends on the data.
	Well, because you're 25, he's 31, so that's a six-year age gap.
	Yeah, but we didn't start.
	No, I'm not saying you guys started dating then, but there's perhaps a slight impropriety.
	I don't know if the panel concurs on that, but.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.
	How are you still working shite out a year after another woman has sucked his rager?
	Have some self-respect.
	Move the F on.
	Also, the old hooker has a high likelihood of being the cat lady.
	Did you want to respond to the cat lady allegation?
	Well, I have a British shorthair with my sister, so yeah, I guess it's kind of like starting a little bit.
	I expected that.
	Yeah.
	His name is Sweet Boy.
	Sweet boy.
	And the boy is with an I. Sweet boy.
	Really quick, let me just pull this one up.
	Whatever fan, well, I haven't the slightest clue what the fellow British lady just said, Bloody Hell.
	It's like the favorite thing for me to say because it's from like Harry Potter or something.
	Bloody hell, Harry.
	Bloody L.
	They love that.
	All right.
	Should the whole panel just try to do a British accent for the rest of the show?
	You guys down?
	Can you guys do British accents?
	We'll just try.
	We're going to pretend we're in Wales.
	Don't know if I'm particularly good at that.
	That was a good one.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	So wait, so to bring it back, though, to this.
	So, okay.
	It's been on and off multiple times.
	You said you'd been single for a year.
	See me yesterday.
	But you.
	Are you still cohabitating with him?
	No.
	No.
	You're.
	So, okay, when you guys broke up a year ago, did you move out?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So then, how often?
	Because you saw him yesterday, so.
	Yeah, we're like.
	How often do you see him?
	Really good friends.
	Yeah, more than friends.
	Definitely more than friends.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	Did you have carinal knowledge yesterday?
	No.
	You guys didn't?
	No.
	You guys didn't have sex?
	No.
	Why would you guys see each other?
	I'm just a little confused.
	Because it's been like such a long, it's been such a long relationship besides us dating, you know?
	And like, he's like my best friend in a way.
	And I understand it sounds super unhealthy.
	And like, that's why I'm saying, like, I'm trying to figure it out.
	It's not like the most ideal situation.
	And I wouldn't recommend it to like any of my friends.
	Sorry.
	Do you want to be with him?
	I do, and I do, and I don't.
	I do because I love him so much, but I don't because like I deserve more than that.
	So she stays.
	Is he good for you, though?
	Is he good for me now?
	I think he really is.
	Yeah.
	Like a good husband.
	Yeah, he would be.
	Yeah.
	So if I'm not.
	That's just terrible.
	That's terrible.
	Can I?
	Coming from Bali, I'll be quick.
	Can I ask you a question?
	So is the inability to commit on his behalf or your behalf?
	Good question.
	Definitely mine now.
	Okay.
	Yours.
	Also, it switched.
	Yeah, it switched.
	Okay.
	Wait, so question though.
	So, okay, you guys broke up a year ago.
	Have you guys, you said you didn't hook up yesterday or this morning, whatever.
	You guys haven't hooked up at all since you broke up a year ago.
	That didn't sound very convincing.
	Did it look confident?
	I don't really want to talk about my sex life per se.
	I'm open to talking about my dating experience, but not so much.
	Isn't it intertwined?
	A little bit, but not really.
	You don't need the details.
	He hid it from the back.
	I don't need that.
	No, no.
	It's been a long time.
	It's been a long time.
	So, like, cleanliness is kind of a nagging thing.
	It's not necessarily like a fundamental argument.
	What was the big issues?
	It was just a lot of the times it was that, like, living together.
	And then also just, you know, like him with like, I would find shit on his phone.
	Just like constant girl stuff that would like trigger me a lot.
	Yeah.
	Moved her.
	And we also like.
	Sorry.
	We also like would go out a lot.
	And I think that also triggered a lot of stuff.
	So why is it?
	So why is the inability to commit on your end right now?
	Because he obviously wants to get back together with me, but it's a little bit more difficult for me.
	How come?
	Because I still hold on to the past.
	The trust is broken.
	Yeah.
	Are you sure you trust him?
	Like, you said he's marriage material, but yeah, that's another thing.
	Is I think about if I were to have babies with this man, like, it's not just me now.
	It's like these kids that we would have.
	And I don't know if that, like, that's what scares me, you know?
	I can't.
	I'm not just like taking care of myself anymore.
	It's like the future.
	So you don't trust him?
	I don't know.
	I feel like I do trust him, but I don't know how long I'm going to trust him.
	It's on the fence.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.
	Bitch, you are the most groomed woman I have ever seen on the show.
	Seriously, get help.
	Get away from the cheater and find yourself a heater.
	The patriarchy stands ready to help.
	Get better.
	Yo, Grid One, thank you, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Grid one, the legend.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	He's a pioneer.
	Do you want to respond to Grid One Motorsports?
	That was like so insulting, but also like a compliment.
	And then, yeah.
	The get help part was.
	He called me a bitch.
	Yeah, he did.
	I think it was like in an endearing way, though.
	Like, he's looking out for you.
	Well, then, thank you.
	But also talking mad shit.
	Just the wrong vocab, but the message was there.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm working on it.
	Disregard, you know, it was just for dramatic effects.
	It was for dramatic effects.
	Do you feel like you're holding on to like do you think maybe you're holding on to what could be?
	You're holding on to maybe this story for sure because like I envisioned my entire life with him, you know.
	Do it.
	You invested a long time.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	I'm just.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, it's been like a total of six years.
	That before, like, we officially got together four years ago, but I was also like dealing with him for two years prior to that.
	So it's just a long time that I have another question.
	I mean, to interrupt.
	So is he your technically first love?
	I think so, yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, what do you mean you think so?
	Well, because I've had high school relationships and you say, yeah, I love you.
	But he's definitely like the first.
	How tall is he?
	5'9.
	Is he rich?
	Yeah, he has money.
	What's he do for work?
	He's a chiropractor.
	Oh, okay.
	He doesn't have enough money to be cheating on you.
	No.
	There's no amount of money you can have.
	But that's really shocking.
	Huh.
	You saw him yesterday.
	When you say you...
	Hold on.
	Just to be clear.
	Did you spend the night at his place or did he spend the night at yours?
	No.
	You said you saw him this morning.
	Yeah.
	How would you have seen him this?
	You guys just had.
	I saw him this morning.
	So I went to get breakfast.
	No, I just went over before I. You didn't spend the night?
	No.
	You didn't sleep over?
	No.
	So you just.
	Yes.
	Is that normal for like most people?
	No, it's not normal.
	I'm not saying this is normal.
	Like I said, I would not tell my girlfriends to do it, but like I can't help it.
	You love him.
	There's a hit connection.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I'm working on it.
	Wait, you still, you love him?
	Still?
	Of course.
	I mean, after, just to be clear, you've been single for a year.
	Single for a year.
	He cheated on you, and you still love him.
	A couple other clarifying questions.
	Have you dated any other guys in this one-year period?
	Yeah, I tried, but it was unsuccessful.
	What?
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I guess I just wasn't ready.
	When I started dating again, I wasn't ready.
	And it just felt weird.
	I would compare everybody to him.
	I just said no one compares.
	So I just gave it its time, you know?
	His hold on her is too strong.
	Wow.
	That's all it is.
	Yeah, I would think she was dating.
	Especially when that's like all you know.
	Yeah.
	That's why it's your first love because that's the worst.
	Those are the worst heartbreaks.
	Yeah, but that's high school.
	Yeah, I feel like high school was.
	Okay.
	Were you intimate with any of these other men or no?
	I'd rather not say.
	I'm just going to take that for a yes then.
	I mean, refusal.
	I'm just going to take it for a yes.
	I mean, are you on, are you trying to date at all?
	Are you on any dating apps?
	I don't really like dating apps.
	I've never been on one, but like, no.
	And I'm kind of just open to whatever, but how did you meet these other guys?
	You said you went on some other dates.
	Instagram.
	They would DM you or something.
	Okay.
	When's the most, what's the most recent time you've been on a date with a different guy?
	A couple months ago.
	a couple months ago okay uh i feel like you're not telling us all the details with with all of this but um i'm giving as much as i can Does this guy know you're going on these dates?
	He did, yeah.
	And does it make him jealous?
	Yeah.
	And does that make you feel like he loves you when he gets jealous?
	No.
	Not really.
	Given his sexual involvement with other women during the relationship, is there any doubt that he's currently sexually involved with at least one woman?
	I don't think so.
	I really don't think so.
	Hold on.
	Wait, hold on.
	Just to be clear, while you were in a monogamous relationship with you.
	I get what you're saying.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	While you were dating him in a monogamous relationship, he was sexually involved with multiple other women.
	But now that you guys are broken up, now he's celibate.
	I find that dubious at best.
	He's probably.
	I assume he's sexually involved with at least one other woman, possibly multiple.
	Do you have no evidence for this?
	No.
	Does he talk to him about yeah?
	I mean, he tells me he's not doing anything.
	That's probably what he told you when you were together with him, right?
	What would he say when you would find stuff on his phone when you guys were together?
	You'd confront him, right?
	Yeah, that he was just like drunk or upset.
	Or something.
	What was he doing?
	Talking?
	Snarling's pictures, sliding into people's faces.
	Yeah, sliding into the DMs type stuff.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Wait, did you go through his phone?
	Yeah.
	Without his permission?
	Yeah.
	She has good instincts.
	Well, I just felt something was happening.
	Major.
	Grid1 Motorsports donated $200.
	Just be honest, the groomer interfered in every date you even thought of having.
	You need fucking help.
	Dude is on his couch with a chick on his lap right now, watching you simp.
	I'm not even simping.
	So you don't want to get back with him?
	Or is that cope?
	And you actually, like, you're still madly in love with him and you're not going to be able to do that.
	No, I don't want to get back with him.
	So why are you still hanging out with him?
	You saw him this morning.
	What was the nature of your hangout this morning?
	To talk?
	Yeah, he's like a best friend for me.
	It's familiarity and comfortability.
	But can you guys be friends without entertaining the possibility of being together?
	Maybe.
	We'll see.
	No, if you could, you would have by now.
	I don't know if that's possible with your guys' history.
	And I think that's a problem with taking breaks.
	Because regardless of whether taking a break is considered being single for that short period of time, you're going to hold on to whatever that person did while they were on the break.
	And you're going to remember that.
	It's going to replay in your head over and over and over again.
	It doesn't go away.
	So you have to make a decision.
	In my opinion, this is what I would do if I were you because I had ex like this and it was like constant.
	But what I would say is either decide to not talk anymore or work it out.
	Yeah.
	But he was cheating on her even when they weren't on a break because he was DMing girls.
	Yeah.
	So I mean, he's not loyal.
	He's not a loyal guy.
	She doesn't give a fuck.
	I think you're not being fully.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I think there's more to this story that you're letting on.
	You're still hanging out with him.
	You saw him yesterday.
	Did you see him yesterday too?
	You hung out with him yesterday?
	No, I saw him yesterday.
	Sorry.
	I saw him yesterday.
	How often do you see him?
	Wait, you saw him yesterday.
	And this morning.
	And this morning.
	Q, do you just like to hang out with girls just to like chit-chat, go to brunch?
	No, I hang out with girls that I'm fucking.
	Right.
	I mean, okay, can I just say something?
	And I don't want to turn this on to like we're harping on you or beating you down or we're trying to.
	It's coming from like a place of like best interest and it hurts to kind of hear that.
	So I just wanted to like share something and I hope that it resonates you.
	But every minute you spend with him is taking away from time and opportunity of spending it with someone who's actually going to value you and love you and who's going to give you what you really need.
	Because it sounds like he doesn't value you and that you he just has you sitting and like I have chills right now because it sounds like he's just, he knows that you're gonna be there, you know, and it's gonna take a while.
	So um, I don't know.
	I feel like I also just recently realized like I've turned him into the perfect guy and now now someone else can like oh, someone else can like reap those you're in love with, the potential you're in love with exactly hold on, hold on, you turn.
	How did you turn him into the perfect guy?
	What do you mean?
	Because he's so great.
	Now, you know, but after you met him.
	So I think, just like you made him get married, have your babies, because you know he's gonna wait this hold on, just to be clear.
	He's the perfect guy.
	But he was fucking multiple other women.
	Now he is.
	I'm saying, when's the last time you've gone through his phone?
	I haven't.
	I don't even care to go through his phone.
	Wait, when's the last time wait, hold on.
	Just to be clear, you were, you were in a sexual relationship with him when he wasn't perfect.
	Now that he's perfect, you have no interest in.
	No, it just feels a little too late, but I don't know that yet for sure.
	So that's what I'm trying to figure out, like is it too late or can I still figure this out with him?
	I think, as long as happiness is there just like we only live one time, you know so like as long as it's there, like get married, enjoy.
	This is terrible advice.
	This is like I don't.
	Like I don't know if people at the table or the viewers are hearing this, like what I'm hearing.
	But she's gonna do what she's gonna do.
	So, but like can I say bloody hell again.
	Imagine, I feel the situation's absolutely fucked.
	I feel fucking terrible for the next guy.
	Oh wow, I feel terrible for the next guy.
	I'm actually I'm not like that.
	I wouldn't.
	I wouldn't drag what I've been through into the next relationship.
	You've been single for a year and you're still.
	You're hung.
	You hung out with your ex this morning yeah, but if I were to start talking to a guy and meeting guy and that was his boundary as to like hey, I don't want you talking to this guy.
	If I, if he shows me that like he's worth that, then I would.
	I would stop talking to him if.
	If he show yeah, if he shows you who initiated, who initiates the hangouts.
	Do y'all talk every day?
	Do y'all text?
	Do y'all no, not every day, every day, how does he think you guys are?
	Well, he knows that we're trying to figure it out.
	So does he think you're his girlfriend?
	No, he doesn't.
	He knows i'm not his girlfriend.
	So what does it mean when you say another guy would have to prove that?
	Well, I would not that he needs to prove, but I would just have to feel and in like, a connection with that guy.
	How are you gonna feel a connection with the new guy if you have this thing open with this old guy?
	Yeah, because when you call you, go running, that's a valid point.
	I don't know yet guys, i'm figuring it out, but these have a year, these are good, these are good things that you got and be okay with that.
	No, you need absolutely this isn't.
	Hold on, let me.
	This is a fucking intervention.
	This is an intervention that i'm gonna go home and figure it out and have him come over tomorrow and we're gonna talk about it.
	This is what honestly, you need.
	Hold on, i'll get to it after the Undonated 200.
	No, thank you.
	Nickelodeon Finally found the common who fixed the man she's obsessed with.
	Move on.
	Marry a good man that loves you only so you can leave you because you fantasize about your ex's peen.
	What?
	What do you mean?
	Nickelodeon's Shakespearean.
	He speaks in poetry.
	Thank you, Nickelodeon.
	Appreciate it, man.
	If you date somebody, no, you.
	Oh, I'll always be thinking about my ex?
	Yeah.
	I don't think so.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $200.
	Perfect guys do not cheat on the girlfriends.
	Dude, it's not perfect.
	You are not a fool in Dormat.
	Move on.
	You cannot fix this dude cause he knows for a fact he can fuck around and you will take it.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Grid One Motorsports.
	Well put.
	Appreciate the message.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Okay, intervention.
	All right.
	Fuck this.
	I'm going to go home and I'm going to think about it.
	I'm going to meditate.
	I'm going to meditate on what I heard from the whatever podcast.
	I'm going to consult with him and we might cuddle a little.
	We're going to cuddle a little bit.
	And we're probably going to have carnal knowledge and intercourse, whatever.
	Honestly, you're potentially like, I think it was you who said this.
	You're going to fuck it up for like that next guy that comes around.
	Because if I was that next guy, and if I was that perfect next guy, and I heard that you're still involved with your ex and you just hung out with him, that's a deal breaker.
	Killer of cereal donated $200.
	He's had it once.
	He's going to want it again.
	You say it's just talk, but you're old news ever since he moved on in more than one way.
	He's trying to see what he can get out of you.
	Move on.
	Well put, well put, killer of cereal.
	Here's the intervention.
	You need to block him right now.
	We'll give you your phone back.
	You need to block him right now.
	You need to make a commitment.
	You're never going to see this guy again.
	If you want to send him a text, be like, hey, listen, this isn't healthy.
	I wish you the best, but I don't think I can continue seeing you anymore.
	I think you should do that right now here on the podcast because, I mean, I don't know if there's a consensus here if y'all concur.
	This ain't gonna work.
	It has to end now.
	Half of them are telling her to marry him.
	Jess Gerald donated $200.
	Complete separation is your only recourse.
	Rip off the band-aid, break your own heart, and allow yourself to be whole again.
	You're too young and so much potential.
	There's the guy out there that will be loyal to you.
	I agree.
	I'm not saying that, like, I'm not going to, I'm not trying, or I'm just not considering any other guys.
	I'm just saying, right now, that's my situation.
	But that's why I can't get back with him because I also agree.
	Like, the right, I think I'll meet a guy who's also learned the same lessons maybe that I've learned, or he's already done the bullshit shit.
	And then, you know, I will be valued for like who I am because I'm a very loyal person.
	I never, all the times, I never did anything to kind of get back at him or anything like that.
	And you can hold on to that.
	You can hold on to your loyalty, but your beautiful years of in your 20s and 40s.
	Why I said I'm in my prime and you're 20.
	And you're wasting them on this guy.
	I'm not trying to.
	That's why I'm not getting back with him.
	But you have him on back.
	You're still hanging out with him.
	Wait, what did you catch?
	She just says she's not getting back with him.
	Well, so what are you doing then?
	Exactly.
	You just say Joe was trying to figure things out.
	I guess I'm slowly ripping off the banding.
	Slowly.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	Slowly ripping off the band.
	That's an oxymoron.
	No, no, dude, he's got it.
	On the back burner.
	She's got him on the back burner.
	He's on the back burner.
	It's complicated.
	Could I ask a question?
	But he's also so intertwined in my family life.
	Oh my friends.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Okay, anyways, I don't want to talk about this.
	Do you love him unconditionally?
	There's an unconditional love.
	Yeah, I definitely love it.
	That doesn't make sense.
	I know.
	I just recently learned that, that like unconditional love is not real.
	Isn't it like unrequited love?
	Isn't that the only unconditional love that exists?
	That's like a poem or something.
	Yeah, there's a poem says the only real unconditional love is love unrequited.
	And that I heard it online.
	What were you saying?
	Go ahead.
	I was just going to say that even if it's unconditional, whatever word you want to use, you can do that from a distance.
	You can love him from afar.
	But you have to let it go.
	And you have to move on.
	You have to heal yourself.
	Direct that love to yourself.
	Jade.
	Thank you.
	Jade.
	Is that not good?
	No.
	I disagree.
	Here's what you got to do.
	All right.
	Check this shit out, right?
	I gave you the advice.
	You've got to follow.
	I know you're asking.
	This is what you're going to do, right?
	We're going to give you back your phone.
	All right.
	We're going to give you back the phone.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm losing.
	No, okay, but hold on.
	Hold on.
	You're going to do it on my terms.
	You're going to do it on your terms.
	Look.
	Look.
	You don't want to get back with him, right?
	That's what she said.
	Like 100%.
	You never are going to have sex with him again.
	You're never going to date this guy again.
	Correct?
	She can't.
	Look, she won't even say it.
	Listen, listen, listen.
	She's not.
	You're not being full on with us.
	Go ahead.
	She's watching right now.
	I'm humiliating myself.
	She can't.
	No, you're not.
	No.
	You can't imagine your life.
	Hold on, guys.
	Go ahead.
	You can't imagine your life without him.
	He has a role in your life.
	He's been a priority in your life for as long as you've been romantically involved with him, maybe even prior.
	And the only way, the only way that you can get rid of that feeling is to go without talking to him.
	The fact every time you talk to him, the same circuits of your brain that light up that's attached are relit.
	You put yourself right back in the same situation.
	You are clinging to something.
	You clinging to hope.
	Even if you're sitting here saying you won't get back with him, your actions show that you're still hopeful that you guys can work something out and be together down the line.
	You have to cut off all ties.
	You have to go cold turkey.
	That is the only way.
	And just to add to what Q is saying, and I think a few other people here have mentioned this, this isn't radical advice we're giving you.
	I think the norm when it comes to the end of a relationship, you can't keep hanging out with the person you just broke up with.
	It has to be like a cold turkey hard side.
	I agree.
	You've been broken up.
	You claim to be single for a year, but you're still.
	It's a lot harder to do it.
	Because I know if I was my own friend and she was telling what she was going through, I would also be like, you just have to not.
	But it is a lot harder.
	It's not hard.
	It is hard.
	No, Okay.
	But sometimes that's making it difficult.
	I'm more of like an emotional person.
	And then you're more, I could tell you're more of a logical person.
	So it's easier for you to like just when it comes to making those decisions, because your emotions are so involved, you actually need to think about this objectively.
	I know.
	You need to put yourself in a position of seeing this objectively and what is the best decision.
	Like make a list of pros and cons, right?
	Is this person making me happy?
	Are they fulfilling me?
	Are they challenging me?
	Do they love me?
	Are they loyal to me?
	Sounds like a lot of those are no.
	I would say your best bet, this is for your happiness in the long run, is to literally walk away.
	It's going to hurt.
	It's going to suck.
	You're going to cry.
	You're going to need your friends.
	You're going to need all your friends right now and everything positive, but you have to go through that suck.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	You have to go through that.
	And you'll be so proud if you'll see it.
	You'll be so proud.
	Yeah.
	Like, wow, I was so strong that day.
	Maybe less than two years.
	Don't worry.
	It'll be okay.
	The future.
	I thought we weren't doing therapy.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Thank you guys.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate the advice from all this girl.
	Hold on.
	You appreciate the advice.
	But I do want to hopefully get a confirmation from you right here, right now.
	Next show, I'll let you know.
	No, Hold on.
	Hold on.
	You've just been advised.
	She's married.
	She's given you good advice.
	You're in a relationship.
	Well, we'll come back to your situation.
	Q's a dating coach.
	I said just do you.
	Here's what I think we need, right?
	Are you?
	Can you make a commitment here on the whatever podcast that this is over?
	You're really trying to save me.
	Well, don't save you from yourself.
	You don't want to be saved.
	Like, like I said.
	And I'm telling you, I think the best thing, like, if you want to take massive action, do massive change, right?
	Because, like you said, you could slowly rip off the band-aid, which, again, doesn't really make sense.
	You could do something, step out of your comfort zone right here, right now.
	We'll give you your phone.
	You can send him a text, be like, hey, this isn't going to work anymore.
	And block him.
	You don't owe this guy anything.
	He was cheating on you during the relationship.
	Now, look, I get it.
	Maybe you want to do, I don't know, in person.
	I don't know.
	No, she can't do it.
	And the reason she can't do it is because she's not giving us all the details of the state of their relationship.
	He apparently has done things that she cherishes, that she values, appreciates, respects, and clings.
	He's not a complete monster, but we're not saying that.
	But that's what she's clinging to.
	That's why she can't block you.
	So, how heavily intertwined is it?
	Is it like he has he pay your rent or something?
	Yeah, is there like financial intertwining?
	No, nothing.
	You guys are like friends for years, right?
	And you have family friends, so you're worried about losing a friendship.
	Yeah, it's difficult.
	It's like they're asking you to go cold turkey.
	She's saying, wean yourself off, and you're just trying to figure out where you need to be.
	But I just want you to think about every minute you're spending with him, you are taking away from time that you can be finding yourself even more and establishing your own independence and growing into your own.
	And that's thank you.
	That's it.
	I just thank you.
	That's such a good point.
	I'm just curious.
	She needs to be ready, though.
	Like, you can't make that decision for her.
	She can just unblock him after the show.
	You know what I mean?
	At some point, I think it's going to come down to just accepting what you know is true.
	If you really felt like he wasn't ever going to cheat on you again, you saw that he was different somehow.
	I don't know what that would take, but then you wouldn't hesitate.
	You know, it's true.
	Like, you know, it's just getting to the point where you accept it and do whatever it takes to move on.
	Can I ask you a straight up question?
	Do you want to get back with him?
	I don't know.
	She is back with him.
	I'm not back with him.
	But what do you mean you don't know?
	That's what I don't understand.
	Like.
	I don't think I do.
	I don't think I do, but I am still attached to the friendship part of it.
	Are you okay if he's like dating someone else?
	I've thought about that, and I'm kind of getting close to that point where I would wish him the best.
	Okay.
	You're getting close to the.
	Yeah, like, obviously, I don't know.
	Maybe it would make me upset.
	Because I say that now.
	You're not dating.
	It's not your call.
	Movie dates.
	If he was dating someone else, would you keep hanging out with him as friends?
	No.
	What if he is dating?
	He probably is dating him.
	I don't think so.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Are you waiting for him to move on first?
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	No, I'm not.
	I have a question.
	Let's say you meet a guy who you like and he likes you.
	What do you think that guy is going to think of this situation that you currently have going on with your ex that?
	It's a complicated, sticky situation.
	Any guy worth his salt, worth it, like who's worth anything, you tell, and I hope you would disclose this because this is a potential major conflict for a future relationship that you're going to have with another guy.
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	The emotion you should be feeling is run the EFF away.
	The emotion I am feeling is get the rocks with a little sent the nukes mixed in.
	Go find the real man that does not cheat.
	I double dog dare you.
	Get the rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Have you guys ever heard of the saying, like, all men cheat?
	Do you guys believe that?
	I believe that.
	I don't want to believe that.
	It's not true.
	Yeah, I don't believe that.
	I don't believe in it, but then again, I wouldn't mind it because I'd want a relationship where I think I've said the air on it.
	Like, then it's not cheating.
	Let me just finish up my train of thought here.
	So, this potential, like a potential new guy that's interested in you, this is going to be a, if, again, if he's like a man who's worth anything, that if a girl told me this, bro, I don't want that fucking headache in my life.
	You're still hung up on your ex.
	You got to be properly single if you want to date me.
	I'm sure, Q, you don't want to date a girl who's still hung up on her ex, hanging out, going to brunch, hanging out, doing sleepovers.
	Who knows what you're not telling us?
	And look, I'm giving you some tough love here.
	I know I'm coming off a bit abrasive.
	I'm trying to give you a bit of tough love.
	This situation is absolutely foo bar, snafu, fucked up beyond all repair.
	Like, I think you gotta, I think the intervention here is what are you gonna do?
	You're gonna call him on the phone, meet him in person, have a sob sash?
	Honestly, send him a thoughtful text.
	I think you gotta just end it.
	You guys are already broken up, anyways.
	You said you're single.
	So it's like you don't owe him a closure talk, a breakup talk.
	Yeah.
	Send them a text.
	Be like, look, in order for me to meet somebody else, move on with my life, I gotta do a clean cut.
	Send him a text.
	If you gotta block him right after.
	That's it.
	He had his chance to be with you.
	He fucked it up.
	He probably could still get you now, but one of you's offensive or I don't know who.
	I think that who knows what he's got to say.
	But like.
	He would say the same.
	He would say the same thing.
	In addition to this situation just being super complicated, like I just said, it's going to present, it's going to be a major issue for any relationships moving forward.
	Like this guy can't be in the picture.
	I've never really thought about that, but this guy can't be in the picture if you're trying to date somebody else.
	And that guy who could be the guy, who could be the guy, you're going to lose him if he finds out this bullshit is going on with your ex.
	And I know I'm saying it kind of rough, but you need some, you need some, what's the term, medicine right now?
	Tough love, tough love.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Ryan.
	It's actually really sweet of you.
	What has he done to show you that he's not going to be texting other girls or looking at other girls or whatever?
	Like, has he gone out of his way to make you feel comfortable?
	No, does he offer you his phone?
	He does.
	He does.
	Yeah.
	Without you asking?
	Yeah.
	Or what do you mean without me asking?
	Like, you don't have to ask.
	He's just like, hey, I just want to like.
	Yeah, he's like, whatever you want.
	Whatever you want to do.
	Like, if you want to see my phone, if you want my location, if you want this and that.
	But I don't want any of that.
	Like, I don't want your location.
	That just seems to me weird.
	You shouldn't have to have all that stuff.
	I know, but we got to that point, you know?
	But now it's like, you know.
	I think that probably what's hard for you is because every time you want to leave, you're reminded of the good.
	Yeah.
	And they'll show you their best self, you know, to kind of pull you back in.
	And that's.
	I know, for you.
	So are you single?
	Yeah, well, we're going to move.
	We're going to move on.
	We're going to move on.
	But you don't have to, but my point was, can I finish up quickly?
	Quick, quick.
	Okay, so my point was, you don't have to discard those good memories.
	You could hold on to those memories.
	No, you got, no, I'm sorry.
	No, I have to interrupt.
	I have to interrupt.
	That's terrible advice.
	That's terrible advice.
	It's disrespectful to your future partner to be thinking of that time he hit it really well.
	And all the, no, dude, this guy needs to be in a fucking a thousand miles in the past.
	This doesn't make it.
	He's got to be a thousand years in the past.
	You can't be thinking, oh, I'm remembering all the good memories.
	It's disrespectful to the new guy that you're going to be with to be thinking about the good times with your ex.
	It's rude.
	It's disrespectful.
	I'm sorry.
	Do you just delete a hard drive in your brain of every encounter you've ever had in your life?
	Well, the memory is there, but I'm not like reminiscing while I'm with my new girlfriend.
	I never said that.
	I remember hitting it really good with my other girl.
	Like, I'm not saying that.
	I'm not even sexual.
	I did not say that.
	I remember all the time.
	Enjoyed the growth, you know?
	Like, how you wrote all that.
	Cool, I remember all.
	For first times, like, you can't wait.
	Nobody's saying to do that.
	Nobody's saying to do that.
	I'm saying that it's okay to still remember the good times when you're slowing down.
	You got to be men in black with that shit.
	You fucking remember or you forget all that.
	Okay, well, your brain's like a filing cabinet.
	Okay, she's going to keep a middle film.
	Honestly, I know it's in your head, but it's like, bro, imagine Q. You're dating a girl.
	You're in love with her.
	You've been dating her for one, two years.
	And like, let's say she reveals to you, yeah, I'm reminiscing about my other ex.
	And let's say we could say it's terrible if it's sexual.
	You took my point out of contact.
	I'm remembering all the times.
	He was hitting it raw better than you, blah, blah, blah.
	And then, oh, also all the wholesome moments.
	I'm reminiscing on all the, you know, the cuddling and all the intimate moments.
	Can I?
	Oh, my, bro.
	You got that.
	That's in the past.
	You think about it less as you, like, as the years go on for sure.
	And definitely when you're in a new relationship, you really shouldn't be like thinking about your ex constantly.
	I mean, clearly you haven't moved on.
	Okay.
	But my point was, it might help her through this hard time to just remember the good things.
	No.
	What are you talking about?
	Hold on.
	No.
	Okay.
	No, I'm saying she needs to leave him first.
	No, What?
	This is such a dog shit advice.
	No offense.
	In order for her to get over her.
	No, stop, In order for her to, your advice is, in order for her to get over her ex, she needs to think about all the amazing good times she had with her ex.
	That's retarded.
	No.
	Sorry, I dropped the R word, but that's actually retarded.
	Okay, you already broke the first rule point.
	I know, but I had to.
	It was actually R. First of all, first of all, I did not say in order to.
	That's what you literally said.
	No, I did not.
	You said, roll about.
	Okay, you said something along the lines of during this hard breakup time, just keep thinking of all.
	Stop.
	Just keep thinking of all those really good times you had with your ex.
	That's the worst advice for getting over an ex.
	What are you talking about?
	Pros and cons lists.
	Okay, simple.
	We're making a pros and cons list of why to get over or why to stay with someone.
	You need to think of the good times.
	You have to.
	And then you think of the bad times.
	And when you're doing your, like, you're weighing those options, you decide that what was negative is overseeing what was positive.
	So you do need to think of the negative.
	Sorry, bro.
	You guys are.
	I just, I don't even know what to say.
	This is getting crazy.
	Last thing on this, and I'm going to move it on.
	Oh my gosh.
	Ultimately, though, the big thing is, is that this is, for any men.
	That was perfect timing.
	This is absolutely catastrophic.
	If you're considering, like, this is why it's so important for, as a guy, you need to screen out girls that are still like hung up on their exes.
	This will absolutely, like, the chances of her, like, getting into a three-month thing with some other guy, and it's like there's a budding relationship there.
	There's a decent likelihood that her ex is in the back of her mind.
	And if he comes back and he's like, babe, I miss you so much.
	Let's get back together.
	I've changed.
	I'll do better.
	Boom.
	That three-month relationship is down the fucking toilet.
	You best believe she's getting back with her ex.
	You best believe it.
	That's why I only date women that aren't like fucking hung up on the ex.
	Don't date me.
	That's what you're saying, Brian.
	What has he done?
	I wouldn't recommend a guy to date you, given, look, you seem perfectly pleasant.
	You're an attractive girl.
	Great.
	I wouldn't recommend a guy getting involved with you or a woman like you who's currently still hung up on your ex and you're still hanging out with him.
	That's not a good look.
	I wouldn't even go on a first date with a girl who's in that sort of situation.
	Brian, may I ask you a question?
	What's up?
	I think what they were saying is they don't want her to become bitter in her memories with him.
	Do you have any?
	Who cares what her do you have any fond memories of anyone you've been with?
	Sure, absolutely.
	But I'm not in an effort to get over.
	You didn't delete it completely?
	Yes, if I go into my brain, I can think back.
	Precisely.
	But your advice is for her to start meditating on these past good experiences.
	Again, with the throwing in the words in my mouth, I did not say that.
	I said she doesn't have to completely throw away the good times.
	When she's really going through a hard time, she can think back.
	Yes, there were good times and bad times, but the bad times outweighed the good times.
	And she's choosing herself.
	Like, I don't know if the bad times are coming.
	This is pretty.
	This is pretty.
	Yeah, I don't know if the bad times are way to good times.
	Otherwise, she would have been left.
	If it was that severe to the point to where she experienced some acute trauma, she would have been left.
	I think I'm just romantic.
	But sometimes I invested so much of my time and energy.
	Scoop out.
	But it is what it is, and I'll figure it out, guys.
	I promise.
	I know you will.
	Thank you.
	See, you can't take your own time.
	Don't cast pearls before swine.
	I gave you great advice.
	No, I am taking it, and I appreciate it, Brian.
	Yeah, but look, it's kind of like... I'm not saying it as like, oh, I'm not going to do anything about it.
	Like, I have been actively trying to figure it out.
	You know?
	And I know the clock is ticking.
	I know I have to make my decision.
	So it will be done.
	I'm just saying, like, the healthy thing after a breakup, there's no contact.
	You can't be hanging out with them.
	It makes it fucking impossible to move on, especially if you're still like having, if you're still sleeping with them, I know you don't want to get into that.
	I'm just going to assume it's been the case, though.
	You break up, you're still sleeping with them occasionally.
	You're still hanging out with them, cuddling, whatever.
	It makes it impossible to move on.
	Yeah.
	Like, so anyways, I can just keep reiterating the same point.
	It's not clear to me if you're going to take it, but I am.
	She doesn't get to that place where she asks herself those really, really hard questions.
	Like, have a moment with yourself.
	Like, and really think about that.
	Really think about what you're doing.
	Am I wasting my time or not?
	Anyways, moving on.
	She went to the rush.
	Move on.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm going to read a chat.
	Dylan Lawley.
	Unfortunately, Streamlabs isn't letting me re-trigger it, so I'm just going to have to read it.
	So, hold on one sec, guys.
	He says, Let's test the delusion tonight.
	Ladies, you're alone in the woods.
	Would you rather come across a bear or a man you don't know?
	Please explain your pick.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I would say a man that I don't know because he might have tools to help.
	And if he's a terrible person, then I'll take him out.
	Like, that's it.
	Okay.
	You didn't specify the bear, so I'm going to assume it's a sun bear.
	And they are very cute.
	So I'm going to choose the bear.
	You chose the bear.
	The sun bear.
	Yeah, native bear.
	They never said which bear.
	No.
	So you're just assuming you're an Indian.
	Exactly.
	So I could be a koala bear.
	No, that's not bad stuff.
	I choose the bear.
	Beautiful.
	The man.
	The man.
	I would choose the bear.
	I would choose the bear.
	Wait, say it one more time.
	I think we missed it.
	I would choose the bear.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Because, like, a man that I don't know sounds really scary.
	Yeah, in the forest, too.
	In the forest.
	I don't like that.
	Yeah, and maybe.
	Even though a bear weighs like well over 400 pounds.
	But if I would literally rip your skin off your face.
	I have called hydrophobia.
	So there, well, there's a fear of forests, and I have a really big fear of going in the forest alone.
	And especially if a man came there, I'm like, oh my gosh, triggered.
	But a bear, I could just be like, let the bear live its life, and I'll just, you know, get out my binocular or whatever.
	Did you all say man?
	I said man.
	All of you said man.
	I said bear.
	What?
	Sun bears.
	Let's assume it's like a grizzly.
	And they most likely don't attack her unless provoked.
	Well, plus, my mom worked missing persons, so like a man in the forest was always a bad, bad sign.
	I'll take the grizzly.
	Why?
	Manhunt.
	Oh.
	Wait, so man, bear, man, man, bear, bear.
	Do you want to answer this?
	What's the question?
	Man and bear?
	Okay.
	You're alone in the woods.
	If you're alone in the woods, would you rather come across a bear or a man you don't know?
	Explain your pick.
	Oh.
	So I'm basically like rolling out the dice on what kind of guy this is.
	Sure, yeah.
	I guess I'm alone in the woods.
	A bear, maybe?
	I mean, because I kind of know what to do if I encounter a bear, you like.
	Okay, maybe I don't.
	Do you play dead or do you make yourself big?
	I don't know.
	I think it depends on the bear.
	It depends on the bear.
	I don't know.
	But a man, if he's good, then I want the man because he'll protect me.
	If he's bad, then I don't know what to do.
	You don't know.
	Exactly.
	So I guess the bear, right?
	It's just what are your chances?
	Like, what would you rather take your chances on?
	Yeah, a bear because the bear.
	A bear you can like maybe get to leave you alone, but a man is just like, I don't know.
	Can you?
	What is the original?
	So what is I've heard this has been going, I guess, viral recently on TikTok.
	What's the origination of this question?
	I think one of it is: is it pointing out that women have this perception of men that they're dangerous?
	And so it's on one hand, it's saying women feel this way about men, but isn't it a bit, I mean, these sort of overwhelming answers for women being more comfortable with a bear, it seems like it's actually a bit sexist.
	No, I just explain why.
	You know how to handle a bear.
	You like make yourself big and they leave you alone.
	If a man, you make yourself big, he doesn't care.
	He could hurt you.
	Hold on.
	You have to think worst case scenario.
	You're alone in the woods.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the worst case scenario is the fucking man can talk.
	The bear don't understand English.
	So men can't do that.
	The bear can do any harm to a woman other than just like calling her bad animals.
	Men are not.
	That's his whole point.
	Men are not inherently bad.
	No.
	A man is not going to hurt you.
	You stumble across a man in the woods.
	Chances are he's not going to hurt you.
	And that's the whole point of the question.
	The bear is absolutely has a larger probability of hurting you than a man does in the woods.
	And it's that simple.
	Sure.
	You can disagree, but it ain't, that ain't a fact.
	It's a fact.
	A bear wants to hunt.
	A bear does not attack humans unless it's a polar bear.
	A man, I don't know what you're doing in the woods.
	You can find even some bears attack people.
	Don't you watch these animals on Netflix?
	Don't you dare bring some bears into this conversation.
	They attack people.
	They attack people.
	No, they don't.
	They attack people.
	And then if, and black bears attack people, grizzly bears attack people.
	And men attack people too.
	Yeah, but a man is not going to hurt you, kids.
	Well, let me ask you guys a question, right?
	Like, let's say the scenario is, like, of all the men that you've walked past throughout your life, where they all had, they possibly had an opportunity to attack you.
	Did they?
	Did they?
	Yeah, but you weren't alone in the woods.
	Wait, so you're saying...
	But I don't even...
	I'm not even the kind of person.
	Hold on.
	Let me go around the table asking this question.
	Let's say you were alone in the woods and you walked past a man.
	What do you guys think?
	Like, what do you think the probability is that just any random man would attack you if he were to walk past you?
	Let's say you're on a hike through a trail or something.
	What do you think the probability is that he would attack you?
	I feel like it's you never know.
	Well, if you had to assign a percent, I'd say 50-50.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	Alone in the woods?
	Why are you alone in the woods?
	Let's say it's just...
	Have you guys ever been hiking alone?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Not alone.
	Well, there's popular trails.
	That's the point.
	He's going to hear me scream.
	Okay.
	Let's.
	Okay.
	Fine.
	You've walked past people while you're on a hike.
	I've hiked alone before.
	Yeah.
	And it's always like, it feels like 50-50.
	Yeah.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let's go around the table fully on this.
	What about you?
	Well, I wouldn't hike alone.
	As a woman, you just don't do that.
	I do.
	I think it, I think, and generally it's not safe to do that as a woman, especially at night.
	Okay, now we're adding other factors.
	Why?
	Well, because then you're you could be a potential victim to a creepy man wanting to hurt you or wanting to.
	What's the percentage chances, though?
	Assault you.
	Okay, what's the percentage chance?
	I don't know, but I would say if it was me 30, 70, 30 being he would assault me.
	37?
	Is that a matter of 30, 70?
	70.
	Wait, 30.
	30% chance that he would.
	Okay, what about you?
	Well, I chose the man because A pretty scary, especially if it's like a mama bear and she's got like a kid.
	Oh, you reasonable.
	Yeah, but also, if you are alone in the woods, I do understand like a woman's fear being run around a man because I've been in a room with a man on my own and been like, oh, he's giving me some weird energy over here.
	And yes, if he feels as if he could get away with it, you're in the middle of like you know the Pacific Northwest and it's the woods.
	It's like the Sasquatch area, right?
	It's very, very covered.
	There is a chance that a man would attack, but I don't know what the percentage is.
	I would still choose the man over a bear.
	I have a question.
	Well, I want to get everybody's answer on this, so just give us quick if you can.
	Well, my perspective probably isn't appropriate for YouTube, but I was victim of a violent crime.
	Yep, but okay.
	What percentage?
	I don't.
	Well, I've been victim of a few crimes, but one was really bad.
	But so I would say a high percentage just from what I've seen.
	Give us a percentage.
	85.
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	Trick question.
	A man alone in the woods is already tired of a one-minute shite.
	Thus, a woman alone in the woods will never even know he was there.
	And he would likely take pity on the bear that ate he.
	What about you?
	What percentage?
	I'd say 50-50.
	50-50.
	Okay.
	I'm not sure, but I think it'd be very low, like less than 10%.
	I think most men are good and would be good.
	Like, not to sound bad, but like, especially if you're a pretty woman, you're young, you're attractive, depends what you're wearing.
	Like, not to be rude, but like girls who are like overweight or who are not attractive, they're probably not going to be like assaulted as much.
	I think if you're attractive, he would be more inclined to help you.
	Yeah, that's true, but also more inclined to hurt you if he's the wrong kind of guy.
	If he is the wrong kind of guy is insane.
	I think there's just too many variables.
	I think women have a victim complex and they have a really inflated.
	Look, of course, there's monsters out there.
	There's men who do terrible things.
	This is a very small portion of men, a very small portion of men who are criminals, who have an inclination to attack women or assault women in whatever way that might manifest itself.
	So the way you feel, but like to hear these numbers, say 50%, 80-I don't know.
	What was the highest one?
	85%.
	Was that you who said 85%?
	I said 85.
	Oh, I don't know.
	What did you say?
	What percentage?
	I said 30%.
	30%.
	50.
	50%.
	It's a coin toss.
	Just walking by.
	So basically, what you guys are saying is 50% of men, if given the opportunity, would essay you, would assault you.
	Essentially, that's no, that's not a matter of time.
	I'm only demanding it.
	It's a 50-50 chance.
	You don't know.
	You don't know.
	I probably say 20%.
	These are instincts of the menu.
	Of course, you don't know what any given man is.
	But I know a lot of us were also taught to not go out at night alone.
	As a woman, you don't do that.
	I think the factor is that it's a wood.
	You don't put yourself in that position.
	It's a wooded area.
	Yeah, it's a creepy.
	Yeah, right.
	There's no surveillance.
	There's no creative.
	There's no police.
	I think it also depends on how you grew up.
	Like, I remember, you know, I mean, bless my mom's heart, but I grew up, you know, kind of interesting.
	And she worked missing persons.
	She was a police officer.
	So sometimes she'd be like, you left the door unlocked.
	And I'd be like, yeah.
	And she'd be like, say something very dark that would happen to me.
	And I'd be like, whoa, okay.
	And that would be like for years, decades.
	And so you kind of just internalize it.
	And yeah, you let it go.
	But at the end of the day, there's always that kind of lurking.
	Like, what?
	Also, but also, I think this speaks volumes to the biased negative perception that y'all have towards men.
	Because if you ask me, the most likely man to be in the woods is a fucking park ranger.
	Oh, yeah.
	That is.
	But, I mean, y'all automatically assume a guy in the woods, what is he doing in the woods?
	It could be a park ranger.
	Would you feel better if it was set up?
	I would feel better.
	Yeah, anytime there's an open-ended question, the human mind is going to play into whatever its biases are.
	So that's why I say that's why I say it's a very important thing.
	More than likely, he's not going to attack us, figure out how women perceive men.
	So we're not going to, we know not to be like, well, it's probably a park ranger.
	No, but it's open-ended.
	So it could go either way.
	The fact that they literally stated, a man in the woods is creepy.
	That's open-ended.
	A man in the woods, a man in the woods.
	You give him a lady.
	It could be a park ranger.
	Maybe it's more like alone with no one.
	Either my.
	I never said that.
	No, not you.
	I think she said that.
	I said I prefer animals over humans and I want to see.
	No, I think you said a man in the woods is just creepy.
	One of you said a man in the woods is just creepy.
	I think it was probably me.
	It's probably me.
	It was one of y'all.
	But if it's a park ranger, he's not creepy.
	But I take back the 80% because I was thinking 80% with a man in the woods odds that he would be creepy.
	But if it was just a regular man like on the street, 20%.
	Not high.
	Can I ask the group a question?
	Is it related to this?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Has any woman here taken like self-defense classes?
	And does that build your confidence?
	And do you think that your chances of surviving something like that encounter you're describing would be higher given those lessons?
	So after the crime that happened, I was very scared.
	And I actually took like karate when I, you know, didn't have this going on.
	And I took karate for like, I would say like three to four months.
	And I really liked it.
	And I just kind of stopped.
	And I don't know why, but I felt a lot of power doing that.
	And I don't know how much I could ward off, but it felt cool.
	Like, it was good.
	I think it's good for women to.
	I don't have any objections to women learning self-defense tactics, taking martial arts, jiu-jitsu, kickboxing, whatever.
	However, I mean, unless you rise to very top levels in that sport, the likelihood that you're going to be able to dispatch a man who has 60 pounds on you or even who's probably the same weight, there's such a strength discrepancy between men and women, even of the same weight.
	I got to be honest, like self-defense classes are probably not going to be sufficient.
	I think it was psychological.
	I think it felt good.
	Well, that's the other thing.
	It's typically when it comes to your sense of you feeling unsafe, that's exactly what it is.
	You feel unsafe.
	Whether you actually, with this whole bear scenario, you might feel that way, but the reality is what you feel and what is reality is very different.
	Yeah, like it probably won't happen again.
	Well, keep in mind, we chose man for a reason.
	We know that the man is more than likely not going to hurt us or attack us.
	We're not saying that.
	But you're also asking woman.
	If I were to ask you, if you were alone in the woods, would you rather, you know, be with a woman or a man?
	You would, or mean, you know, a woman or a bear, then you would choose the woman.
	But women, on average, get assaulted by men, then vice versa.
	Kind of.
	Sure, that's fine.
	Right?
	Right?
	Women display aggression in very different ways, though.
	Sure, but.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, actually, I think when I mean, geez, I don't know if I really want to go down that road, but I don't think self-defense would really help you with most men.
	Like, if you're like UFC champion woman, you can probably actually like beat the fuck out of a guy who's for sure your size, I think, who's untrained.
	Can I ask a question?
	Have you ever had a swift kick in the bollocks?
	Is that the bullocks?
	A swift kick in the bollocks.
	Like you've been kicked in the nuts.
	Is that what they teach you in the self-defense classes?
	Yeah, in the UK, I did two years of military training and then two years of crop and cotton training.
	And the best thing they teach women is the bollocks.
	Yeah, I would say.
	You don't have to be UFC.
	You just have to get them there.
	And it hurts, doesn't it?
	It hurts a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But do you think you would really like.
	Do you think what you see in the movies where if you were to strike a guy in the nuts, he would just like, oh, fall over and he can no longer control his motor.
	Should we test it?
	Maybe if you mace him.
	I'm pretty sure it's like start.
	I'm not going to tell people how to attack men.
	I'm just saying if you take those clauses, they teach you.
	How about this?
	Let me give women better advice.
	Go get a firearm.
	That'll equalize.
	That'll equalize much more than that.
	That'll help you out much more in a self-defense situation against a man than taking years of BJJ.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Also, like, I don't know, it's pretty.
	You just block.
	Can you just block the nutshot?
	I don't know.
	I think it's kind of crazy to see, like, you know, it's like you said with the biases and everything.
	I think it's really nice.
	Gustavo?
	140.
	140.
	Anybody here?
	Anybody here way more than 140?
	Like, I'm pretty sure Gustavo.
	I didn't want to ask that question.
	All right, yeah, you're right.
	Sorry, the autism's kicking in.
	I don't know.
	The whole bear thing, though, it's like it kind of, it's weird because on one hand, it's like, I feel like women think it's like a W.
	Yeah, we're more scared of men than bears.
	Just kind of like ridiculous on that version.
	Yeah, no, well, then why else would like all these women say, I'd rather be with the bear?
	Because they're dumb.
	I'd rather be with a safe man.
	Look, there's absolutely nothing that I feel safe with.
	There's absolutely men that do and would attack women.
	But I would argue that there's a greater likelihood that you end up with a harmless man who might actually help you.
	You're stuck in the forest.
	I agree with you.
	He'll save you.
	True, yeah.
	He'll save you.
	I literally said it.
	Whereas if you cross paths with a bear, most bears actually don't attack.
	I don't know the stats on that.
	That's polar bears.
	Yeah.
	The rest of them don't.
	So they still attack.
	I don't know.
	And you're smaller than a man.
	I don't know.
	I'm pretty sure like cross paths with the bear.
	Like, you have to think, okay, what's the worst scenario for both?
	Okay, the guy is a piece of shit who wants to assault you.
	Okay, the bear is a fucking babies are there.
	It's a mama bear.
	It's going to fuck you up.
	It's going to maul you.
	Yeah.
	If it was babies, I would be scared of the bear if the babies were there.
	Here's a question, right?
	Let's say you're not alone in the forest and you're with like a group.
	You're with another man.
	Would you rather cross paths with two men or two bears?
	Two men.
	It depends how big the man is.
	Two men.
	Two men.
	I would say two men.
	I would say two men.
	Two men for sure.
	Because then one is there to watch if anything happens.
	There's definitely a bias against, I mean, there's a bias against men when it comes to this stuff.
	Bears are pretty.
	The vast majority, the vast majority of men would never hurt a woman in this sort of hypothetical situation.
	Yeah, there's monsters out there.
	There's pieces of shit.
	But the vast majority of men are good men who would probably help you.
	It's not the ideal situation regardless of who you come across.
	That's crazy.
	It's crazy to say that bear.
	Yeah, they must assume it's Ted Bundy.
	I don't think anyone was assuming anything.
	I think maybe she feels a certain way because she's been through things, so you have to understand that.
	But I don't think any of us are actually assuming that a guy would just attack us.
	I hope this isn't offensive, but let me ask you a question.
	For those of you who had bad experiences with men before, what if that guy slingshot donated $200?
	Rather than wasting your money on Jiu-Jitsu Karate Self-Defense Classes, go take your gun and safety course and get your CCP.
	It's way more useful against a predator versus some fancy karate move.
	Yeah, I mean, you can get a firearm and you could kill the best male heavyweight UFC fighter if he's got his hands, you've got a gun.
	Like, GG, well played.
	So it's just, yeah, look, it's not.
	The gun wasn't a factor in the original question.
	And also, it was a factor in my scenario.
	It's really difficult to also get a firearm, especially as an immigrant.
	And then there's also places you can't take your firearm and you won't have it on you all the time.
	So I think, yes, agree, but also it's going to be hard to do that 24/7.
	For me, he had a firearm.
	Yikes.
	I know, right?
	Anyways.
	I totally forgot.
	Sorry.
	What else?
	Oh.
	Yeah, no worries.
	Do I go there?
	Probably not.
	It's been like five years, so I'm kind of like over it, but I'm wiser now.
	And I did karate.
	It did make me feel better.
	It did.
	Really made me feel better.
	Yeah, I don't give a shit.
	Okay.
	Does it change the question at all if, like, if we were to put, like, would you rather be in the force alone with a bear or a man of X race?
	Like, let's say, let's racialize this a little bit.
	Let's say, what about like a minority group?
	No.
	Does that change anything?
	No, it doesn't change anything.
	No.
	I think what it is is, and I don't mean to speak for you.
	Yeah, no worries.
	No worries.
	I know it's so awkward.
	I wish it didn't happen.
	No, no, I don't mean to speak for you, but I think it's about where you place the most risk and what you have the most, like how you view the greatest risk.
	And so it's like if you, for me, I chose a man because I automatically know the bear's intent and that bear could intentionally, like, potentially hurt me.
	Just Gerald donated $200.
	Black bear will run.
	Brown bear will charge.
	Grizzly bear will hold you down and eat pieces off of you while you're still alive, screaming.
	Rolled bears will kill you quickly and eat you quickly.
	Goodness.
	Yo, Gerald, good to see you in the chat, man.
	Yeah, so I just, just to wrap that up, I just feel like you answer it based on where you see the most risk and if you see the most risk in a man or versus a bear.
	And for me, it's like I know the bear's intent and I'm not going to assume the man's intent, so I'm going to choose him.
	And a bear is a different animal.
	I don't know how large this potential bear is, but it's a different animal.
	I don't know how to handle bears.
	I don't know any knowledge, so I'm going to choose a man based on my knowledge and my experience.
	You guys are different.
	And you have different viewpoints, so that's why you choose.
	I do have to move it.
	I do have to move it on.
	I do have to move it on.
	Official Brandon Collins.
	What's up, everyone?
	Joining the stream late.
	Hey, Lauren, glad to see you back.
	Hope you're well.
	Question for the panel.
	What are your types?
	Are chubby guys okay?
	Does size actually matter?
	We typically prefer to donate like one question per thing.
	So what are your types?
	Are chubby guys okay?
	I'm just going to do the last one since we do like one question per chat.
	But thank you, Brandon Collins.
	We'll just do, does size actually matter?
	It's about the motion in the ocean and your ability to please.
	Word.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Yeah, size doesn't matter.
	Size doesn't matter to me.
	So we're not speaking on body type.
	It's like the size of the pee-pee.
	Okay.
	No, size doesn't matter.
	Oh, I was going to say the size of his heart does matter.
	Aw, yeah, it does.
	Sweet.
	Okay.
	We have Nickelodeon here.
	The sadly ironic part is women only like men that treat them like shite, but look for a Disney romance.
	But if they ever found that romantic, noble, sweet man, he would give them the ick.
	What?
	Isn't that true?
	I don't think so.
	Don't speak of generalities.
	You guys have heard about this sort of trope or stereotype, which is true of women being attracted to and liking bad boys and jerks and assholes.
	I think like an asshole to the world, but a gentleman to your girl type thing, you know?
	That still sounds pretty so he treats everyone else like shit.
	No, no, no.
	Like tough boy exterior.
	Tough boy exterior, but like inside.
	Like tough boy isn't like he can get shit done.
	He'll protect you.
	He'll be able to defend you.
	We're shifting the goalposts a little bit here, but a little bit, but I do think, I mean, it is the case that women are attracted to bad boys.
	What's your definition of a bad boy?
	I mean, it's hard to precisely.
	Yeah, I think girls are definitely attracted to that, but as far as them being relationship material, I think it's like wired in us, kind of to like a stronger.
	Yeah, women are attracted to cues of masculinity.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	We have Dialedin, 0430.
	Hey, thank you, ma'am.
	Really appreciate the message.
	The best way to choose your partner is to ask the question: if your future children had any choice in the world, would they have picked that person as their father?
	That's interesting.
	Oh.
	So you're making a decision for your children.
	So what would your children choose?
	Would they want that guy as the father?
	I guess so, because they wouldn't be born if it wasn't that guy.
	Technically.
	It's their genes.
	I mean, whoa.
	I'm not sure if that's really what the question is getting at, but it's like a step over, but yeah, I get the point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Although, well, yeah, then that specific child wouldn't have been born.
	Yeah.
	He'd be somebody else.
	Like, would your future kids want your spouse to be a parent?
	David Treziak, did I say it right this time?
	Let me know.
	I think I did.
	Treziak.
	Distracted on the call.
	Any response to last comment?
	I'll pull it up after this.
	Pepper spray is better for bears than men.
	I've encountered black and brown bears in the wild, and you just hold still respect to Park Rager CMT.
	Comment.
	Comment.
	Oh, okay.
	And then this is the one he was referring to.
	Panel.
	Man who is a nine but split 50-50 cost of life or mistress of your favorite celeb, all paid in a penthouse.
	10-year-older man who rings it and set for life or Brian or Gustavo 60-40.
	Extreme levels is rather than 40%.
	So he's asking you to pick between a man who is.
	I'll do it one more time.
	Hold on.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	He's a nine, but splits, I guess it's a 50-50 relationship.
	Or you can be the mistress of your favorite celeb.
	Everything's paid for in a penthouse, but you're the mistress.
	He's a 10-year-older man who rings it and you're set for life.
	Or Brian or Gustavo, and it's a 64.
	Bro, this is so complicated.
	Yeah, so going around the table on this, I'm going to get up for a bit if you want to take over.
	Okay.
	Yep, going around the table, starting with you.
	Thank you.
	I would do the 10-year-old man who rings and sets me up for life.
	As the mistress?
	Is he saying the mission?
	Are they all separate?
	Okay.
	All right.
	That sounds funny.
	Yeah, what if the man who's 10 years older and marries you sets you up for life?
	Can you pull it back up, Maddie?
	You know how to pull it back up?
	I'll read it.
	Okay.
	Panel: man who is nine but split 50-50 cost of life, or mistress of your favorite celebrity, all paid in a penthouse, or 10-year-older man who rings it in and set for life.
	That seems like easy.
	So basically, you're really a very attractive guy, but he only goes 50-50 for you.
	Mistress of your favorite celebrity, so you don't really have to pay for anything.
	Or a 10-year-older man who sets you up for life.
	10-year-older man?
	Easy.
	Yeah.
	10-year-older man.
	I don't know if I got that right, but it's an older man.
	Yeah.
	I think that's what they were asking.
	What about you?
	I guess, yeah, older guy.
	Older guy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the older guy.
	That was a really because he committed.
	Maybe that was more putting your ring on.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I get it.
	That's kind of an easy choice.
	Maybe you understand women.
	I mean, I see the same thing.
	Older guy, what they want marriage, stability.
	The older guy, too.
	He could be a 10.
	And thinking of like realistically, like statistically realistic, like example of someone 50-50, I don't know if I would want that type of a relationship all the time.
	That's super strict.
	And then, you know, I don't know any of their prep.
	Well, I know, you know, Brian's preferences is to not date adult ladies.
	So I was like, okay, that is statistically.
	No, no, adult worker lady.
	So I'm going to say the S-word.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	I didn't want to say the S-word.
	On there, sorry.
	Brian likes only adults.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I didn't know your dating preferences either, so I didn't want to intrude.
	And then so I think the older guy.
	Okay.
	I got a question for the panel.
	What would you ladies say is worse?
	A man cheating or a woman cheating?
	Which form of infidelity would you consider worse?
	Same.
	I think it's equal.
	Equal?
	Equal.
	I think it's equal.
	And if you want me to elaborate, I think it's like, why are you cheating?
	Is the other, you're not being fulfilled?
	Like, so I think it kind of goes both ways.
	There's no, it's about the reasoning.
	It's not about the gender.
	It's about why you did it.
	I think it's a woman.
	Yeah, I was going to go off of that.
	I mean, statistically, women cheat emotionally.
	And I feel like when women cheat, it's like deeper than that, but it is equal.
	Cheating's wrong.
	If it's deeper than that, you still feel like it's equal?
	I feel like when women cheat, there's like, I feel like men, generally, it's mostly about sex.
	And women, it's like they're not being emotionally fulfilled.
	Okay.
	So it hurts harder maybe for the woman when they got to that level, but I think it's cheating's wrong on both ends.
	So no, it's right.
	What would you say?
	Yeah, equal.
	Equal.
	And you say equal?
	I would say women, it is more emotional.
	That's what I would gather from what I've witnessed over time.
	And you said equal?
	Yeah, I think equal.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, equal.
	I think it's worse when the woman cheats.
	Because of course it's not easy.
	Not because I'm being biased towards myself, but I think it's worse when a woman cheats because one, most women cheat for emotional reasons.
	They're emotionally dissatisfied, and most of the time they fall in love with the guy that they're cheating with and the relationship ends.
	Whereas a guy, if you know guys are cheating just to have sex, most women still can find forgiveness and proceed forward with the relationship.
	So ultimately, the way I'm framing it is if a woman cheats, the relationship ends.
	If a man cheats, the relationship doesn't necessarily end.
	And let me add the final variable.
	When a woman cheats, she risks getting deleted.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	Oh.
	What?
	Okay, no, where are you going?
	I'm going to tantify.
	You're asking the difference between emotional cheating and physical cheating.
	Both men and women can do that.
	No, no, no.
	I just said which is worse.
	Because you're bringing it back to what I said about emotional cheating versus physical cheating, which both genders do both.
	Just women have a more preference for emotional cheating than men, but men can still emotionally cheat.
	Yeah, but they don't.
	They rarely do.
	Then why are you telling her she should leave the guy?
	What's the problem with her and that guy?
	Then why shouldn't she go back to him?
	I said she should cut him off if she wants to get over him.
	But why should she get over him?
	Why shouldn't she just be with him?
	I didn't say she couldn't.
	I never said that.
	You didn't hear me say that.
	But then why should she cut him off?
	Because she says she doesn't want to be with him.
	But why doesn't she want to be with him?
	Because they're besties for life.
	And when she has a new boyfriend.
	Yeah, you tried to get me with a trap.
	I didn't say that.
	I didn't say that at all.
	So do you think she should go back and be with him?
	Honestly, I think they're going to end up together anyway.
	Just circle back.
	Based on his behavior?
	I don't disagree.
	We don't know everything.
	Just to circle back here.
	Your point is kind of why it was difficult to see it as because I know men, like the sex thing is different from like the emotion thing, right?
	Like if a woman cheats, it's emotion when a man cheats.
	So that's why it would make it difficult in my head because I'm like, okay, he's not like in love with this other girl.
	Like he just, it's like that's the thing.
	That's not cut and dry.
	We just, based on our genders and our needs and relationships, men can still emotionally cheat.
	Yeah, but they don't most of the time.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Men have families of multiple women and they leave their wives for their mistresses.
	They still emotionally cheat.
	But it's a matter of what happens in actuality.
	But do you think that actually makes women feel any better or hurt any longer?
	I'm not talking about the emotional state.
	I'm talking about the outcome and what's more likely to happen versus what actually happens.
	Are you talking about like what's sorry?
	What's worse is the consequence?
	Are you asking about like the consequences?
	Yeah, yeah, you can.
	Yeah, I'm using the consequences to determine what actually misses.
	I was under the impression that you were asking a morality standpoint as opposed to what is the what what what consequences are worse when a man cheats or a woman cheats so I think it's just kind of like what you were looking for I didn't understand yeah what consequences are like is it worse I assume I assumed y'all Y'all would interpret it that way, but okay, yeah.
	So, the consequences, and that's why I said if a woman cheats, she's also more likely.
	I don't know if we can say it on stream, but she's also more likely to be deleted.
	Do you guys know what that means?
	I know, I know what okay.
	Yeah, most actually, most, actually, most, actually, most spousal deletions are due to perceived infidelity or actual infidelity.
	So, most of them.
	So, the woman deletes herself.
	No, the man deletes the woman.
	Yeah.
	The man deletes the woman.
	Yes.
	Oh, wow.
	In most cases, where you hear about a spouse committing that act on their spouse, and it's a male on female, is due to perceived infidelity or actual impides.
	Well, the consequences are definitely going to be worse because, you know, although we live in a modern world and this and that, like if a woman cheats on a man, she is potentially putting her, you know, safe, not only her safety, but also her well-being, her livelihood, you know, finances, her home, things like that.
	You know, all of that can go down the drain.
	So the consequences are much greater, and women have much more to lose in a way if they were to cheat.
	If that's what the kind of heroes are.
	You explained it perfectly.
	Yes.
	I agree with your answer, but I just don't think that a lot of women think that way.
	So when a man cheats on a woman, she thinks it's emotionally, which is why she takes it a lot harder.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That's why even when I deal with clients, the number one thing women who have been cheated on will ask is if he loves her.
	A lot of women want to know, does he love her?
	Because women interpret male behavior in the same way they know they would do it or what it means when they do it.
	So she's wondering, why did he cheat on me?
	Is he emotionally dissatisfied?
	Am I not enough for him?
	Does he not love me?
	That's normally what they're thinking.
	And then I have to explain to him, no, not necessarily.
	Guys are just greedy.
	We have a preference for novelty.
	We want our cake and, you know, want to have our cake eat it too.
	So, yeah.
	But do you get it?
	Why shouldn't men cheat then?
	Who said they shouldn't?
	I'm just saying, do you counsel men?
	I counsel women.
	So if it's no big deal, like they just do it because they're greedy, whatever.
	Like it doesn't mean anything.
	Are you saying it doesn't?
	Are you saying it doesn't mean anything if they cheat?
	I'm saying it doesn't mean what women think it means.
	So what they mean.
	And okay, so if a man cheats on a woman, if I'm dealing with a woman who has been cheated on, she wants to know, is the relationship hanging in the balance?
	Does this guy not love her anymore?
	I'm asking you, what does it mean if a man cheats?
	Most of the time he's just cheating because the opportunity presented itself.
	He's one of the things that I'm saying.
	So it doesn't really mean anything.
	Yeah, it doesn't mean he's going to leave the relationship.
	So then why shouldn't he do it if it doesn't mean anything?
	Why shouldn't a man cheat if it doesn't mean anything?
	Well, morally, it can be emotionally damaging.
	Why?
	It doesn't mean anything.
	To the woman?
	To the woman.
	I'm speaking objectively.
	The woman doesn't perceive it that way.
	The woman doesn't perceive it.
	So do you counsel men and tell them it's fine to cheat?
	Oh, the only reason men shouldn't cheat is because women will interpret it wrong.
	She has absolutely cheating.
	The only reason men shouldn't cheat is because women will interpret it.
	The sense of betrayal.
	Yeah, you don't want your partner to feel.
	That is a wild thing to say.
	It is, but it's reality.
	I'm a realist.
	It's not real.
	So do you think all men do mean something?
	So go ahead.
	It does mean something.
	What does it mean?
	Because other men would say that it does mean something.
	What does it mean?
	There are other men who would say, yeah, it means something.
	It's not just women who will say that.
	What does it mean?
	It means he's not loyal.
	He's not faithful.
	I'm not saying he's not disciplined.
	Yeah, he's not disciplined.
	He doesn't have self-control.
	He's putting himself over you.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and that's wrong.
	What's the point of having a relationship if people are just going to act like that?
	But you framed it that way, though.
	That's what you said.
	I asked the question about what's worse.
	You just added all those different factors.
	Well, should have been, you just said, should a man cheat?
	I didn't say he should.
	I explained why.
	I gave you an approximate explanation of why we're talking about it.
	I said, why shouldn't he?
	If it doesn't mean anything, if it doesn't mean anything, it's just because women will interpret it wrong.
	It's not just women who interpret it that way.
	Men will interpret it that way.
	Then that's not what it is.
	Yeah, I'm just giving a proximate explanation.
	You're adding more to it.
	Yeah.
	Cheating is wrong, regardless.
	Men or women.
	He's just saying that, like, typically women will cheat more emotionally than men will.
	Like, men will just because they want a piece of ass.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	You say, so should they cheat?
	I didn't say they should.
	But it's wrong regardless.
	I'm saying why shouldn't they based on your presence?
	Because it's wrong.
	Just because women will interpret it the wrong way is basically all you like.
	I think we're saying both the physical and the emotional aspects of cheating are both terrible.
	That's why you shouldn't cheat.
	But as women, but men cheat for different reasons.
	Yes.
	Yeah, so I'm saying if men knew, like a lot of men, if they knew that it wouldn't hurt their woman, they probably would cheat.
	So that's why.
	So to speaking to your point, the fact that men want to take into consideration the way a woman might feel if he does it, because you just said if he cheats, that means he's being selfish.
	So a lot of guys who don't cheat, they take into consideration how that would break up their family or how they would make their woman feel.
	Like, for example, if a man was with a woman and he loves her, like he loves her, he'd put her over anything, he'd kill for her, right?
	But the woman tells the man, you know what?
	If you want to have a fling here and there, that's okay.
	He would probably take her up on it.
	And he would probably do it even if he loves her.
	A woman, on the other hand, physically is impossible or almost impossible for her to cheat like a man would and just, you know, and still love her husband or her boyfriend.
	It's different.
	It's like we have a separation of ideologies, and men will cheat for a completely different reason.
	It's purely physical because men will always want to have more options, even if they love who they're with.
	They're always going to want more options.
	That's just how men are.
	It's in their DNA.
	When we have sex, different hormones are released too.
	Right.
	When women have sex, our oxytocin happens at love.
	Whereas men, I think it's like it's vast oppressing.
	It's vast oppressing.
	So it's like it's just territory.
	Yeah, it just makes us territorial versus like actually getting head over heels in love.
	Because we do release oxytocin during sex too in small quantities, but that's what post-coder narcolepsy is.
	So a lot of times when you have sex and you go to sleep, like he goes to sleep after you guys have sex, oxytocin in us makes us go to sleep.
	What about hungry?
	What's that?
	Because I get that.
	You burn calories.
	Yeah, you burn calories.
	You got to burn calories.
	You got to keep the metabolism.
	Yeah.
	You burn calories.
	Yeah.
	Cardio.
	But does it make more sense?
	You see the distinction in what I'm saying?
	I was saying that the guys who don't cheat is because they consider their woman's feelings and what it would ultimately do.
	But women have to do that too.
	It's temptation.
	Men and women face temptation.
	Yeah, he's not going against that, though.
	He's just saying that the men that don't do it is because they are considering.
	Whereas the men that do cheat are not considering.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Like when a woman's in love, her man is the only man she sees.
	Yeah.
	When a man's in love, he knows he loves her, but agreed with that.
	She's not the only one.
	He's like, you know, like, you have to understand that as a woman, your man's going to look.
	But what is he going to do?
	It's not true.
	Everyone will be tempted, but not everyone will just do it.
	Everybody gets tempted.
	Even a woman might get tempted.
	What?
	We're talking about cheaters specifically.
	Are you just saying all people?
	I thought we were talking about men and women generally.
	We're just talking about let's get through relationship status.
	Oh, we still haven't gone through that.
	I'm married.
	I've been married for four years.
	That's my longest relationship.
	We already know her status.
	Yeah.
	Oh, is it mine?
	Yeah.
	Oh, damn, we're still doing relationships that we're like two weeks ago.
	It took like an hour.
	So, okay.
	I'm single currently.
	I'm chilling.
	Wait, question for you.
	You said married for four years.
	Yeah.
	So, how long were you guys together before you got married?
	We were together for eight months.
	Oh, okay.
	And then it's four years total.
	Yeah.
	We'll be married four years in a couple months.
	Okay.
	Do you have any other questions?
	Or should I ask a question?
	You can ask one.
	What is one thing that each of you have done wrong in one of your relationships, past relationships, that you can be aware of?
	Genuine question to go down.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, you got my list?
	I don't have it, but you have them memorized or I got my list.
	I'll know.
	You asked the question, they're not even answering.
	I thought we were going to ask you.
	I wasn't asking.
	Yeah, I was going to ask you.
	I'm starting right here, but I'll go after this question.
	Yeah, I keep going after this question.
	Okay, so something that I've done.
	More generally, one thing that you can improve.
	Oh, I think one of the biggest things is it just comes with self-awareness and like working on yourself.
	Is like I'm in a new relationship.
	And so kind of carrying those same behaviors and reactions to how I respond to my current partner needs to be different because of, you know, everyone is different.
	So I think one of the biggest things is working on not carrying over those same habits, those same reactions, and those same like kind of dynamics into a new relationship.
	So that's something that's going to, with time, because my old relationship was so long and this one is so new.
	It's like, oh, I responded this way or I viewed it in this way when you are a different person and I need to see you for you and not who I perceived or automatically assumed or what I have been used to due to my recent partner.
	So I think that's one of the biggest things is like, you know, it's going to be a constant like improvement and you have to catch yourself.
	And I think a lot of people do that and that's something that they don't acknowledge.
	That's good.
	That's a good one.
	I try to change him.
	So I will never try to change anyone in a relationship.
	Or a friendship ever again.
	How have you tried to change something?
	Yeah, what do you do?
	No, we just were, we got together when we were young and then we grew up and we went in different paths and I tried to make him go through the path that I thought would be best for him and that was horrible and against his nature and it wasn't making him happy.
	As in like a career path or career path, just kind of what I wanted and my expectations and it was just a whole circus of him trying to make me happy and then him just not living up to my expectations and then it just wasn't fair to him.
	So I think you got to just date the person for who they are and see them for their flaws and good things and just know what they are and just not try to change them.
	Very valid.
	So sorry, was the question what do we want to improve on or what's something we've done?
	What's something that you've learned from your past relationships that you have done wrong and can improve on?
	Or like improved on?
	I can say one thing that I'm working on right now is patience.
	Definitely patience.
	Not like jumping to conclusions for sure.
	During arguments or during arguments, yeah, like automatically assuming that, you know, for example, like, I mean, I can talk about, you know, my marriage.
	Like something that I've definitely had to work on for sure is like if we're arguing, like I'll assume that he's thinking a certain way, but he hasn't expressed that yet.
	So like just being able to like allow him to communicate what he's feeling without assuming that I know everything.
	This self-awareness.
	Somewhat similar, but more in the line of the jealousy aspect of doing a lot of self-work to be like, just if he looks at another woman, not to be like, I'm jealous of her.
	Like, I wish I was like her and envious.
	Just more of like, okay, he's looking, just leave it.
	Don't start shit.
	Just.
	Do you think like the way that you met your current boyfriend kind of plays into that?
	Definitely.
	I think that has been such a huge like learning curve.
	And it's really sort of catapulted me through that.
	So having someone who has done that and being aware that it is in their nature has really made me face that.
	That's good shit as well because a lot of women struggle with that.
	The fact that you know how to intercept your negative feelings, especially of jealousy and not create drama over just that feeling, that's very, very good.
	Like the emotional maturity is.
	I think that's something I've had to work on too because majority of my husband's clients are women.
	So he has to get very up close and personal with them.
	You know, sometimes it gets, you know, he has to physically touch them or whatever.
	So I think that's something that I definitely struggled with.
	More so in the beginning, the jealousy too.
	I think a lot of women are like that, but it definitely takes a huge amount of strength to have that self-awareness for sure and strive to work on it.
	I think a lot of women can have very jealous tendencies, but we don't aim to improve them.
	But I think that's one thing that I've always aimed to improve as well because it doesn't reflect that I'm not valuable to my husband.
	It reflects that he's a man in nature and he loves me and he's proved that he's loved me, hence why he married me.
	Yeah.
	But does he, when you say like not getting jealous if he looks at other women, did you mean like he's fine with looking at other women or like do you know what I mean?
	Like, oh, he's looking and he's like, what?
	I'm just looking.
	Or is it like, oh, he's like trying to kind of avert his eyes kind of thing?
	Do you know what I mean?
	Like embracing it versus like the temptation's there but trying to reject it.
	Do you know what I mean?
	I'm not sure what his intention is in that moment, but for me it's at any point if he's looking at someone else, like a woman walks into the room and you know, she's wearing a really pretty dress.
	Just gonna be calm.
	Does that include just like glance and like a quick like glance at her or you mean like he's different because different times there's like the look and then there's like the double take and then the like looking up and down and yeah.
	Have you seen the meme with the guy and the woman he has his arm around her and the woman he's like like that or um well just anything okay any look and then we'll just assess it and if I really think it's a problem like just to bring it up in a stoic manner is what I'm working towards.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think like earlier with the bear and the man, I think that I have a lot.
	I wouldn't say a lot of biases, but I've worked on a lot of biases that I've had in the past and that's when like you know, I've worked on a lot of that, but I think that seems to be the struggle is I'd had a lot of fears and things.
	And yeah, I don't want to really leave it.
	Yeah, I don't really want to live with that fear anymore and be seen like that.
	So I'm just trying to the same question here.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, no offense, Madison.
	I wouldn't know what I'm just saying.
	It's all about defaults.
	It's in a relationship.
	Our faults in relationships.
	Yeah.
	What are we trying to improve?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to.
	I actually want to ask the audience, audience, do we continue on with this question or do we move it along to something else?
	Nick, could you show me the chat, please?
	Is it a boring question or something?
	Well, I'm just like back there and I'm like, just I need to dealing with some shit behind the scenes.
	And then I'm just like seeing the viewership just go, fucking crashing down with no offense, guys.
	Well, I want to at least put on something interesting for the show.
	And if it's like, no offense, it's kind of like.
	Where's the makeup wipe?
	Can I take off my makeup?
	Has anyone done that?
	I did that last time.
	No, you did.
	Okay.
	I sure did.
	I have wipes.
	You do?
	I do.
	She has wipes.
	All right.
	Well, let's do this.
	Let's do this question.
	Yeah.
	Do you ladies subscribe to the idea of happy wife, happy life?
	No.
	Yes.
	Let's start here.
	That guy Slingshot donated $200.
	I've asked this question before, but do you think that dating has become overcomplicated compared to grandparents?
	Also, are 40 and 50-year marriages a thing of the past?
	How do we get back to that?
	That's a good question.
	That's a beautiful question.
	Compromise.
	You want us to go down the line and answer?
	Also, 40-50-year-old.
	I mean, what is the question?
	Is dating more complicated now than it was when I was in the middle?
	Yeah, guys, we can only do one question per chat.
	You asked three, so I guess we'll have to do: are 40 and 50 year marriages a thing of the past?
	I think it's a lot harder to make that a reality now than it was back then.
	Okay.
	I think the reason why the marriages were so long was because it was harder to get divorced back then, but I think they're still realistic.
	It's definitely a lot more rare, but very much possible.
	I agree with that.
	And also, I was raised by my grandparents, and they grew up in like World War II, and they were married their whole lives.
	And that is the relationship that I want.
	And I am a little bit jaded, and I am concerned that it is a thing of the past.
	I don't think it's a thing of the past, but I think with less technology, it's probably better.
	I think that, yeah, it's a little bit more difficult to hit 40s and 50-year marriages just because there's so much, so much social media and comparison and all of that.
	The temptation exactly.
	Temptation is a lot greater, comparison, and you always just want the best of the best.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	And people are getting married later in life too, but they'll still exist, but they probably, they probably, the percentage will go down.
	I imagine you want to answer it too?
	Did you answer?
	No, I'm saying you want me to answer?
	No, you can answer.
	Oh, okay.
	I mean, yeah, it's more complicated than it was back then.
	I think feminism played a huge part in that.
	Women don't need men like they used to.
	They aren't as dutiful as they once were in marriages, and they can prioritize making their own money and living their own life, whereas it's not the same degree of stress or, you know, value marriage relationship values that were once instilled in the older generations.
	You know, they stress get married, find love.
	That's not taught to kids nowadays.
	Most kids, college students, say that their parents don't pressure them to get married, and so they feel no pressure to get married.
	All right.
	I'll get to it in just a sec.
	I mean, as far as the 40-50 year marriages, they're still certainly possible.
	But I think it's going to be a lot harder.
	You have a global sexual marketplace.
	You have dating apps.
	You have social media.
	You have people are much more entitled.
	It's not a good social landscape.
	It's not a good dating landscape right now.
	So also, just don't get married.
	I'm not in favor of getting married.
	That works, too.
	Yeah.
	Also, just want to clarify one thing.
	Maddie's question was actually a good question.
	Perhaps my frustration was a bit misdirected.
	No offense to you guys.
	Your answers were actually phenomenal.
	Wait, were they?
	Yeah, they were.
	What?
	They were just really in-depth.
	They were.
	I mean, it makes sense, though, because they're in relationships.
	So they have good mindset.
	Maddie's question was good.
	I'm just sitting back there, and I was like, Yeah, really good answers, though.
	Sounded like a therapy session a little bit.
	Definitely.
	But in like a good way.
	Anyways, good question, Maddie.
	He was good at it.
	You good support, man?
	What?
	What's that?
	Okay, good.
	Good therapy.
	Oh, also, I forgot to mention this during the show.
	Guys, we had three no-shows today.
	Super frustrating.
	Kind of scuffed.
	That's why we were a little late.
	Really quick on this, actually.
	And guys, I usually don't talk about it.
	I just, sometimes I talk about it.
	Usually don't talk about it, though.
	Nick, could you pull up that photo?
	So this is from a no-show from our Sunday show.
	Okay, hold on.
	That guy slingshot donated $200.
	Sorry, there's only 200 characters to work with Lol.
	I didn't realize it was hard to read until I sent it.
	No, you're fine, man.
	I appreciate your TTSs.
	Thank you, dude.
	It's just, you know, just to be considerate of the other people who sent in messages, to the panelists, to the other questions we have.
	We do limit the question asked to just one question.
	We can't just, you know, you can't just slam four questions in there and we can't ask them all.
	But thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	And yeah, man.
	So pull that up again.
	So this is, a girl sent this at, mind you, we ask the people to arrive at 4 p.m.
	She I message her at 4.30.
	She's already 30 minutes late.
	I'm like, hey, checking in.
	Are you coming?
	This is for Sunday.
	She sends us this photo.
	Oh my God, I got into a car crash.
	Now, this is here locally in Santa Barbara, this shot.
	This is Old Town Goleta here.
	Now, you notice the sky?
	You see how overcast it is?
	You see those clouds?
	I don't know if you guys remember the stream on Sunday.
	It was clear skies all fucking day.
	Clear skies.
	And I don't live too far.
	I mean, I'm probably five minutes from here.
	The other panelists could, you know, cue you were here in Santa Barbara.
	Clear sky.
	It was a sunny, clear sky day.
	So she sends me this, and it's like, I deal with these kind of lies every fucking week, every show.
	Oh, my car broke down.
	Some bullshit.
	I'm sick, blah, blah, blah.
	It's all lies.
	They always lie.
	They can't just say, I'm a piece of shit.
	I'm just not coming.
	I would appreciate that more than them.
	Oh, here's a fake excuse.
	So I'm dealing.
	And so today we had three no-shows.
	Some girl, I was on the phone with her on the balcony, call her at 4.30.
	Hey, so you still coming, blah, blah, blah.
	She's like, and you can't, you guys, I think you two overheard the phone call.
	I had her on speaker, right?
	What'd she say?
	She said that she was sitting in traffic and she was 20 minutes away.
	20 minutes away.
	Yeah.
	No show.
	I don't even think this chick is in Santa Barbara.
	No.
	They're just straight up liars.
	We're dealing with this shit every week.
	It's just annoying.
	It gets on my nerves.
	Maybe I shouldn't take it so personally.
	But yeah, we're just dealing with bullshit like that.
	But yeah, it's crazy.
	I called that girl out.
	I was like, yo, we live in Santa Barbara too.
	It was not overcast that day.
	How are you going to send me a picture?
	You might as well have sent me a picture of that car in New York.
	It was not overcast that day, you fucking liar.
	That's a photo from like three days ago, 10 days ago.
	It's not even, probably not even her car.
	Fucking scumbag.
	Anyways.
	Okay.
	Just remember it's a reflection of them and it has nothing to do with you.
	It's their own self and their own inability.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It is a reflection of them being fucking scumbags.
	Fucking pieces of shit.
	So.
	Damn.
	Go off, game.
	Sorry.
	It is what it is.
	I am so sorry.
	No, it's just, to me, it's just amusing because it's like, how are you going to send me a photo?
	Like, at least, you know, send me a photo.
	Look, there was effort.
	At least she, like, Googled it or something like a wrecked car in Santa Barbara said that looks good.
	That's probably what she did.
	It's just, it's, it's weird, though.
	Bro, but like, and she wrecked it.
	And I know I know this is a dating podcast, right?
	People are going to pull the same shit to you when you're dating.
	Oh, an hour before the date.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	My car broke down.
	Now, of course, like most people are just going to like move on, right?
	But I'm going to be like, not for a dating perspective, but for like the podcast, I'm going to be like, if somebody is like, oh, my car broke down, I'm going to be like, prove that shit.
	Because they're all liars.
	They're all lies.
	There's way too many cars.
	Bro, I don't know.
	The economy for mechanics in the LA, California, like Santa Barbara area is fucking crazy or something.
	All these girls' cars are conveniently breaking down before the, and there's all these family emergencies, these vague family emergencies.
	Oh, oh, yeah, I think a family emergency.
	What is it?
	Oh, that's private.
	I can't tell you.
	Can't tell you what the family emergency is.
	It's all bullshit.
	They're going to go out.
	Oh, I'm sick.
	You look at their Instagram story later.
	They're at the fucking club, the bar, at a party.
	It's all people are fucking joke.
	Bro, I'd rather someone say, I'd rather someone tell me, Brian, you're a fucking piece of shit.
	I hate your podcast.
	I'm not coming.
	Tell me that shit.
	Instead of my car broke down.
	Do they have walk-ins that come in here?
	Like, is there a sign ever that you guys put on the door?
	You're like, walk-ins, welcome.
	This is a podcast coming in.
	If I saw that and I was going through something, I'd be like, you know what?
	This is my day.
	I mean, walk-ins, big credit to Madison and Nick because luckily we're in an area where we can just, they can go down to the mean streets of Santa Barbara and just go up to people, be like, hey, you want to come on the podcast?
	Even, yeah, even, yeah, that and like a sign on the wall.
	Like, some people take things so like, whoa, like, this is for me.
	Like, I know I do that all the time.
	So I'm sure somebody else does too.
	I do with that.
	It's funny, though, because girls come on the podcast and I tell them like, you know, my stances on dating.
	And they're like, who hurt you, Brian?
	Do you have trust issues?
	I'm like, these women who we schedule to come be on the podcast literally lie to my face every twice a week, every single fucking week.
	Of course I have fucking trust issues.
	Brian, we showed up for you.
	No, and I give you a lot of people.
	Every single person who shows up, I applaud that.
	And I know more, you know, typically, more often than not, the people we have scheduled do show up.
	I will say though, the amount of people, like, it can be a bit grading.
	It can be a bit grading.
	And I feel for the men who are out there in the dating game because when it comes to the dating apps and shit, and we're actually about to react to something related to Bumble, because Bumble made the news.
	You're going to be dealing with this kind of shit too when you're dating.
	Last minute flake, Friday.
	You could, here's the crazy thing, right?
	And I don't know if you guys have experienced this as girls.
	I'd love to hear.
	You could do everything right as a guy.
	All the things that women tell you to do to be, don't be the guy who texts you at on a Friday or Saturday at 11 p.m.
	What you're doing.
	No, be the guy who sets up a date days in advance.
	I want to this time.
	I'll pick you up 5 p.m., 6 p.m., 7 p.m.
	I'll pick you up.
	You have the date planned.
	You're going to pay for the date.
	You made the reservation.
	You do all the right things that they tell you to do.
	And then 30 minutes before you're supposed to pick her up, she's going to cancel.
	Oh, my, I got a headache.
	I got to walk my goldfish.
	You got to walk my goldfish.
	My pet honey badger.
	I've had some ridiculous excuses, bro.
	You know who deals with more excuses?
	Personal trainers.
	I've been.
	You know, when people skip the gym, I've been stood up for several dates in my life.
	Like several that I could count.
	I'd say like at least 11.
	It's never happened yet.
	Well, I think it's harder for men to get dates.
	So they're probably much more reluctant to cancel on a date.
	Whereas like if you cancel on a date with a guy, if you wanted to go on another date that night, you could probably arrange that.
	Like on a Friday or Saturday, even a prime night, like Friday or Saturday night, any girl hop on a dating app.
	Oh, I want to do another date.
	Boom, you got it.
	Most guys, though, like if a guy, you match with a guy on a dating app 4 p.m. on a Friday, bro, you ain't going on a date with him that night, most likely.
	Most likely.
	He's going to have to plan that shit in advance.
	So most men aren't going to flake like that.
	Therapy could talk.
	I had a guy flake on me at the Cheesecake Factory.
	Say it again.
	I'm just going to say that.
	I just got to flake on me at the Cheesecake Factory.
	People flake, though, because I use those exciting things.
	Cheesecake is good times all the time.
	Just not in this context.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We want to go back to my question.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, you got it.
	I needed a little bit of a little event session.
	That's what male therapy is about.
	Yeah.
	Women go to therapy, men start podcasts.
	Yeah.
	True.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so as I asked, is happy wife, happy life a thing?
	Do you agree with happy wife, happy life going around the table?
	I believe there needs to be balance.
	Okay.
	So it's a give and take.
	That's my belief.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yes, I think it's the thing.
	Why?
	Because I know, like, in my last relationship, when I was upset, it threw him off.
	But when we were like chilling, it was great.
	So he and he was doing well at work too.
	So he never felt any type of negative emotions or anything.
	Oh, no, he knew.
	Like when I was like going crazy, and then he'd be like, can you like relax?
	And then he would like, he knew what things I needed to like chill if I was like stressed out or whatever.
	So I think for him and like his work was like affected by it.
	So had he not done that, you wouldn't have left him earlier?
	But like, like I'm saying, if he didn't tend to you emotionally, I think though, I picked a partner who knew what I wanted emotionally.
	But also like, you know, things happen.
	It might be that time of the month.
	It might be a little erratic.
	Things might be going on like at work.
	And he just knew, okay, I need to make her happy because if she's angry, then I'm not going to sleep.
	So you believe a woman's feeling should be the focal point of the relationship?
	No, but he definitely was happier when I was happier.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	There needs to be a balance.
	I don't believe in the happy wife, happy life thing.
	I think you should both be making each other happy constantly.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there's a thing called destination happiness that I'm sure you're aware of.
	And for some women, like, it doesn't matter what you do for them, it's never going to be enough.
	It's like, no, I'm going to be happy if I get this car or this handbag.
	And there's always something else.
	I think if you try and do that with a woman like that who has destination happiness, it's never going to work out.
	But then there are some women who are just content.
	And those are the ones that you probably could have that with.
	So you don't believe in happy wife, happy life?
	Depends on the woman.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I guess I believe in the wife should be happy.
	He should want to see her smile.
	Like, you know, and I think that should happen, but she shouldn't want to see him, you know, unhappy at her smile, you know, disposition.
	So I do agree that with what you guys said, I think there needs to be a balance.
	Yeah, I agree with the balance situation.
	He shouldn't be struggling to keep you happy.
	Yeah.
	You said that perfectly.
	Yeah, I don't like the phrasing because kind of like the way you said, it makes it sound like the focal point is the woman's happiness and that's all that matters.
	And it almost sounds like happy wife, happy life.
	Yeah, and like if she's not, if she's not happy, then no one's happy.
	And it just kind of sounds aggressive.
	I think, yeah, both people should be striving to serve each other and think about each other's needs and what would make the other person happy.
	Okay, well, the reason I asked that is because women experience a lot more negative emotion in relationships and they're much more likely to end a relationship due to the negative emotions that they feel.
	So that's why I said, should a woman's feelings be the focal point of the relationship?
	Because as a guy, we're not as erratic or impulsive or neurotic as women typically are.
	So a lot of shit rolls off our back.
	We let a lot of shit slide.
	We don't need y'all to go above and beyond to please us.
	So we can suck a lot of shit up, which speaks to her point about he was happy when I was happy because his base state of happiness is I'm chilling.
	Ain't nothing wrong.
	So that's why I asked that.
	But Brian, this panel is really, this might be the best panel of women in a relationship.
	They give the best panel.
	What do you think about, I think the better saying is, and I don't know if you were leading into this, happy spouse, happy house.
	Yeah, that's good.
	That's a good one.
	That's good.
	Yeah, because I think the other one is a bit too one-directional.
	Both people should be trying to make the other happy.
	What would it be for a happy husband, happy?
	Happy both.
	There's a reason I think rhymes.
	Happy husband, happy home.
	Happy, happy, happy home or something.
	Does anything rhyme with happy, happy, happy home?
	Happy husband, happy husband.
	Hubby.
	Dust pen.
	Happy husband.
	That's it.
	We have the Joshua Kims.
	Let's actually have Adeline.
	Yes.
	Can I have you start?
	I'm going to have you read some of the chats.
	Go ahead.
	Sweetie, you are beautiful.
	He messed up.
	You are worth more.
	As a Christian, I see your pain, but God wants more for you.
	It's true.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you, Joshua Kim.
	Sorry that it took us a while to get to Joshua Kim.
	We do prioritize the Streamlabs one, but she got your message loud and clear.
	Thank you, Joshua, man.
	Appreciate your super chat.
	And then we have, let's see here.
	We had one come in through Streamlabs.
	Oh.
	David Treziak.
	Treziak.
	Brian, don't melt.
	Punctuality is your kryptonite like me.
	Maddie, read my comment, read my comments correct.
	Views will grow.
	Panel lied.
	They would be a mistress to their favorite celeb.
	LOL.
	British accent from corner question mark.
	It is a British accent, yes.
	Isn't the Welsh?
	Is it a Welsh accent?
	Or it's the same?
	British is kind of a group.
	You know?
	A group of Brits from everywhere.
	Yeah, fuck it.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	That was cute.
	There you go.
	Thank you, David.
	It's Treziac.
	Treziac, okay.
	And then we have AV24.
	Hey, thank you, man, for the message.
	Table roundabout: what are three things you bring to a relationship?
	Follow-up question: Do you think guys think those things are important?
	I think it's that's either pretty much a yes or no.
	So I'll that's fine.
	Uh, three things you bring to a relationship.
	Do you think guys think those things are important?
	Go ahead.
	I'm supportive, I'm loving, and I am accepting.
	Okay.
	I'm wondering, though, just aren't those sort of like the default things you should anyone should bring to a relationship?
	I think he's perhaps asking like assets or skills, like for example, if someone were to he asks three things you bring to a relationship and you were to respond to loyalty, love like those are kind of stupid.
	Like it's kind of conversation, you know?
	Like I think those are important.
	Those are important because not everyone's going to be accepting of you or accepting of your past or they might hold it against you or they might throw things in your face.
	So for me, it's like I take you as you are.
	Okay.
	And that's where my love, that's what acceptance means to me.
	And so it's, that's, that's what I'm saying.
	Oh, you bring acceptance.
	That's cute.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Unpredictability.
	Nurturing.
	I mean, it's true.
	Hey, she's honest.
	That's the next thing.
	Honesty.
	Hold on.
	Okay, what else?
	Nurturing, and then I am a cheerleader.
	Okay, so do you think guys think those things are important?
	Well, my ex said he loved Crazy Girls, so I started that.
	Oh my gosh.
	What?
	He never knew what he was going to get.
	That's why he never cheated because there's a different person every single day.
	I'm just saying.
	So when you're unpredictable, what does that mean?
	I just, I always want to do different things.
	I always want to go for different things, be different places.
	So yeah, that's what I guess everyone who's ever dated me has.
	Are you crazy?
	Probably.
	Okay.
	Have you ever slashed a guy's tires?
	No, not that crazy.
	Burned clothes.
	No, that's.
	God in revenge.
	No.
	No.
	Gotten him fired for missionary.
	No, I don't really care about that.
	That's like vindictive.
	Yeah.
	I'm more like implosive rather than explosive.
	Are you?
	Do you get into arguments frequently with your partners?
	I like to debate.
	But not arguments.
	Debate what?
	Just anything.
	Like, I'm going to, like, I want to understand the facts behind your opinion on a statement.
	But not so much an argument.
	Like, it's not going to be like, I'm, this is my side and that's your side.
	But I will poke the bear.
	You'll poke the bear?
	Yeah.
	Sun bear.
	Sun bear.
	Obviously.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And then your cheerleader.
	Yeah, like.
	When he shows a chair, like, in your seat.
	Oh, God.
	Rah-rah.
	I'm the sun bear.
	No, like, more so, like, whatever goes.
	Oh, okay, not literally.
	Be a cheerleader.
	Yeah.
	Be as well.
	Okay, you weren't like a poem.
	Celebrate their viewers.
	Yeah, no, I wasn't sure.
	No, that's like go, baby, go.
	Yeah, like, we're talking about like what their goals and dreams and aspirations, just being like their number one supporter.
	I guess maybe supportive, like, but extremely supportive, like to the level where it's like, okay.
	Motivating.
	Yeah, I'm a motivator.
	Good.
	Okay.
	I like that.
	What about you?
	Oh, gosh, they had really good ones.
	I would definitely say I'm big on encouraging, like believing in your goals, celebrating your victories with you.
	I think that's really, really big.
	Like a cheerleader.
	Very loving, nurturing, warm and welcoming.
	Like, you know, when he comes home, give him a big, warm welcome.
	Feisty in all the good ways, very passionate.
	Feisty in the good ways?
	What are those?
	Like when it comes to intimacy.
	Oh, okay.
	Moving on.
	Okay.
	The three things I think I bring is I'm good with animals and kids, which again is like a nurturing thing.
	And it's a trend in the trad wife movement.
	Guys want a woman who wants chickens and stuff.
	And then the other two things is I don't drink alcohol.
	I never have.
	And I don't do drugs, and I never have.
	And it might be good for a specific type of person, maybe someone who's like in recovery or someone who just doesn't want to drink.
	But that could be important to them.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I would say I'm a very supportive person.
	I really, it's somebody that I'm dating, like they have a dream.
	I'm like, okay, like this, this is going to happen.
	Like, we're going to do this.
	And I have this delusional sense of like, not toxic positivity, but like a delusional sense of optimism that exists.
	And it's just like, if they're ever anything, I'm like, wow, we're going to find a way out of this one, even if we're like sitting in a jail cell somewhere.
	I think that I don't know.
	And then three, I would say I'm very intimate.
	I like intimacy and I like romance.
	And yeah, that's what I like.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I would say that I want to be a mother.
	And I think that's like a really important thing for me in the future.
	Wait, so that's what you bring to a relationship?
	Yeah.
	Is your desire to be a mother?
	Well, my warmth and my femininity.
	Yeah, I think like the fact that I value to be a mom is really important.
	Not every woman's something else.
	Yeah, not every woman's willingness.
	But isn't that like the default mode for like the entire history of humans?
	I'm not saying all women desire to be mothers, but don't most women.
	When I say most, that means 51% or more.
	I think a lot of women would also put their careers ahead of having children.
	That's true.
	There's a lot of women who have children who are not, do not want to be mothers or nurturing.
	Where I would know that I would put my full focus on my children.
	That's fair.
	I'm really honest to a default sometimes.
	And yeah, I'm a big supporter.
	I'm a visionary.
	So I think power couple vibes, if possible, you know.
	Wait, hold on.
	Hold on just a sec.
	When I think of power couple, I think of the boss babe, getting with a guy who's also entrepreneur, successful, etc.
	Doesn't necessarily.
	But it contradicts your previous wanting to be a mother.
	Do you want to be a stay-at-home mom?
	It doesn't necessarily mean that's the only dynamic.
	We could be a power couple, and that means he's taking care of the household, and I'm taking, or I'm sorry, he's taking care of the finances and all that if I'm taking care of the kids in the house.
	And that is also, there's power in that as well.
	But I mean, I feel like power couple is typically like two ways to see it.
	Yeah, you could also be two boss ass people.
	I mean, I'll just go.
	Come together.
	And then you can also have a traditional type of power couple vibe.
	There's actually a Wikipedia entry on this.
	It's called a super couple.
	A super couple, also known as a power couple, is a popular and/or wealthy pairing that intrigues and fascinates the public in an intense or obsessive fashion.
	The term originated in the United States and is coined in the early 1980s when intense public interest in fictional soap opera couple.
	What the f?
	Okay, I don't know what the well, that's just my interpretation of it.
	I mean, I know some people have a different idea of what a power couple puts.
	It could also just be two really attractive people together.
	People are like, oh, what a power couple because they're both like, you know, really, really attractive or they're both in shape.
	I'm getting some examples here from Wikipedia.
	Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Taylor Swift, and Travis Kelsey.
	So like good-looking people.
	I think what defines a power couple is your ambition.
	You both have matched ambitions.
	Exactly.
	Here, well, it also says, so the definition here: super couples are defined as popular or financially wealthy pairings that are widely admired in an intense, in an intense or obsessive fashion and influence society's expectations of what a great love story or relationship should be.
	They may or may not be romantic or high-profile, and interest in the pairings may be due to a combination of chemistry, physical attractiveness, or because they seem faded.
	That's a good point.
	It's like a Jenny and a Forrest Gump, kind of.
	Hold on, what?
	The people's attraction towards Jenny and Forrest Gump, she's like a hippie and he's like a soldier.
	Wait, she has AIDS, bro.
	I know.
	Yeah, that's such a sad story of a relationship.
	Hold on.
	She rejected Forrest Gump.
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	This isn't, it's not a love story.
	She rejects Forrest Gump.
	He gets rich off of shrimp.
	She gets AIDS and she has a kid.
	And then once he's rich, of course, then she, even though she rejected him previously, now she's into him after she has a kid, has AIDS, and he's rich.
	Love story.
	But he loved her.
	Oh, my gosh.
	He didn't know any better.
	It was always the children.
	That's a love story.
	That's a love story for women and an absolute catastrophe for men.
	Sim.
	The worst.
	The worst, the Ross deal you can get.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	People have influence, I guess.
	People who have a lot of influence can be a power couple.
	Lori.
	Power couple.
	Force Gump.
	Did you want me to be Johnson and Jay-Z?
	I was going to say that.
	That's what I thought.
	Because that's another power couple.
	That was funny, though.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Forrest Gump is a power couple.
	That was so bad.
	Sorry.
	And then, and he's also like, isn't he like Wikipedia?
	He doesn't know.
	He has a real deal for the chicks, isn't he?
	I mean, that was funny.
	Actually, he was functioning.
	He was a good guy.
	He was good.
	He was a good man.
	Jenny, I love you.
	He loved me.
	He was slow.
	He was slow.
	Yeah.
	But goodbye.
	He meant one man.
	Yeah.
	She got AIDS.
	We all have everything.
	No, I agree.
	He had good cardio.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	What the f?
	Okay.
	That's crazy, son.
	That's crazy.
	We were going around on.
	Did we get to everybody?
	Yeah.
	No, we didn't do it.
	Go for it.
	Go for it.
	I would say I'm fun, but I don't think this guy agrees.
	We were going at it.
	I don't doubt you.
	I don't doubt that.
	Okay.
	And yeah, nurturing.
	I love kids and animals.
	And then I probably a little have toxic positivity as well.
	Just kind of always think everything's going to work out.
	And I think, yeah, that's valuable, especially if you're with someone who worries a lot.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	What do I bring?
	I bring an endless supply of oxytocin highs.
	Creative intimacy.
	What is that?
	Wait, Creative intimacy and emotional stimulation and stability and security.
	Wow.
	Simple.
	That's that.
	That was great.
	Great vocabulary.
	Basically, all these lifestyles.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	What do I bring to the table?
	Hold on.
	I wrote these down.
	No!
	Just crickets.
	Brickets.
	Get this right.
	Okay, so.
	So, okay.
	Hold on.
	Let me just pull up my nose here a little bit.
	You know, I like, I get all my arguing out on the podcast.
	So I'm like the chillest.
	Like, I know it seems like, oh, he must be a dickhead.
	But I'm actually like super mellow.
	I never like to argue.
	Like, the way this is like kind of an adversarial show, so I'm not like trying to get into arguments if I'm dating somebody.
	Like, I don't like conflict.
	Like, I mean, if it's like something necessary needs to be talked about, I'll talk about it.
	But I'm not like trying to pick arguments and shit.
	And I tend to gravitate towards women who, like, a lot of the women I've dated had long-term relationships with.
	Like, very smooth sailing.
	So, yeah, I'm not like some dudes, you know, a lot of people think girls will bring drama, but guys can bring drama too.
	Wanting to argue and shit, starting shit over nothing.
	Like, I sometimes you just mesh up really well with somebody and you never, you guys never argue.
	It's all good for the most part.
	Let's see.
	No, I don't engage in any vices.
	Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't go to bars, nightclubs, don't gamble.
	Yeah, don't otherwise party.
	So, yeah.
	And yeah.
	There you go.
	Good ones.
	Yeah.
	Let me get this chat here.
	We have.
	Was that only two?
	Yeah.
	That was two of them?
	Yeah, well, fuck it.
	We'll leave it there.
	The shy guy community.
	That's all he has.
	Folks.
	Yeah, thank you for the 100 Euro.
	Adeline, could you read this?
	Yes.
	Okay, dancing is trying to express your feelings.
	When I'm in the club, I move the way I feel the music.
	What you think about these guys?
	DJs good or straight into trash?
	Asking for the shy guys, be honest.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What?
	What?
	Oh, what?
	Like, if guys are dancing, is that what he's asking?
	Like, if you see a guy dancing, is that weird?
	Or what's that?
	I don't think it's weird.
	I think dancing is a daily dance.
	Okay, let's.
	So here's, I guess I'll try to pin in like this.
	You're at the club.
	You see a guy dancing.
	Is you like a guy who dances or not?
	Oh, I mean, like, you're confident and comfortable with yourself and you want to move and groove.
	I don't see that as, like, if you're scared of it being feminine or looking a certain way, like, if you're enjoying yourself, that's all that matters.
	I judge people who are at the club not dancing.
	So if there's a good thing and you're just sitting there with me.
	It's actually weird if you're not.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	If I see a guy dancing on his own, that's not particularly attractive to me.
	If he's like trying to dance with me, that's different.
	Can you scoot your mic that way?
	No, no, no, you.
	Me?
	Yeah, that way.
	This way?
	Yep, go ahead.
	Well, my dream man since I was a kid was Gene Kelly, which he's dead now, but he was a beautiful dancer, so that's the answer.
	I think it's cool if a guy dances, but I'm not like looking across the room, like, whoa, like, check out that guy, like, dancing.
	Like, you know, I don't do that, but I think it's cool.
	He definitely has to have like the energy behind it.
	Like, it needs to match what's going on in the room, like, read the room type thing.
	But no, it's not weird if they're dancing.
	Yeah, I'd probably agree with that.
	Don't.
	No, not like you're dancing because you feel good.
	Did you dance?
	I think it's when they pop the chips.
	You're in just like a little sway?
	Like, by yourself?
	No.
	Yeah.
	See, it's like, that's kind of weird, right?
	No, that's amazing.
	They're just feeling the vibe.
	I mean, to each their own.
	If you're fishing for intention and trying to be the spectacle of the event, then yeah, that's like, oh, no.
	Like, why?
	Why are you?
	Yeah, like Terry Cruz and White Chicks.
	Nah.
	Or if they just love the music and they're just, you know, confident and they're having a good time.
	They don't need to be on beat, but there's this song by Blink182 called First Date.
	And one of the song lyrics goes, Is it wrong if I think it's lame to dance?
	I think it's lame to dance.
	I don't dance.
	Oh, well, that's why you don't go out to like bars or you don't go to clubs and you don't drink even with a girl.
	That makes sense.
	I'll actually like fucking maybe dance around just like at home.
	Maybe like ball channels.
	To like go out and dance.
	What if the girl wanted to dance?
	I don't need to dance with her.
	I love dancing.
	You're kind of sus if you're a dude and you were like, oh, boys, we're going to go out and dance.
	Oh, yeah, if you put it in that way.
	I'm just going to dance the night away.
	It's fucking slimy.
	Because that's what girls do, right?
	But it's not what those guys are doing.
	Fine if girls want to do it.
	I guess it's okay.
	So would you not go line dancing with like cowboys and stuff?
	I go to a lot of recommended places and there's so many guys who just go there to dance.
	I ain't line dancing.
	You look so good in a cowboy hat, though.
	Thank you, I guess.
	Do we have a cowboy hat in this video?
	Let's see.
	Yeah, good idea.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever if you're watching over there on Twitch.
	Just hit that follow button really quick if you can.
	And if you're watching on YouTube, pull up another tab.
	Just if you got a Twitch account, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Nick, could you hit the stream yard thing in the sources at the top?
	Yeah.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	The link is in the description.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime Sub if you have one, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	And oh, yeah, Nick, if you want, just pull that up, that one up whenever we go to Twitch.
	Let me see what else we have here.
	You know what?
	We'll do this one.
	We do have Stiffler coming in.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Ten.
	Ten.
	I wasn't feeling my scarf, but let's go.
	Closer to the mic.
	Go ahead.
	Nine.
	Like seven.
	Feeling like an eight and a half today.
	Baby check.
	Thank you for the 20 gifted.
	I hate this question, but like a seven.
	Okay.
	Seven.
	Q. Six.
	You're more than a six Q. You're more than a six.
	Six point one.
	Come on.
	You're better than that.
	I give myself a five.
	I give myself a five.
	So we have ten, ten.
	Was it nine?
	Did you say nine last time?
	You didn't say ten last time?
	No.
	All right, let's explore the tens a little bit here.
	Perfect.
	She's perfect.
	So why are you a 10?
	This is looks, mind you.
	Yeah, I'm a 10 because I feel like a 10, and my partner thinks I'm a 10.
	So that's all that matters.
	Thank you for the 10 subs, Durin dolls.
	And you're a 10 too?
	Yeah, I think I'm a 10.
	But I think everyone should think they're a 10.
	I have a question.
	Are you wearing color contacts?
	No.
	That's your natural eye color.
	Those are real eyes.
	I'm from Brazil.
	Just ask.
	Yeah.
	But no.
	And Kenya.
	Yeah, I'm Brazilian and Kenyan.
	But yeah, I think that's how I feel about myself.
	And I feel like everyone should feel that way about themselves when they leave the house.
	So I feel like a 10.
	Do you think all women should consider themselves 10s?
	Yeah, I think the world would be a better place if everyone considered themselves a 10.
	Do you agree, Edelon?
	Should everybody consider themselves a 10?
	I agree, because if you look good and you feel good, that's what matters.
	And then you're bringing that positivity into the world.
	If I feel like I'm a three, I'm going to go out and I'm going to be bitter.
	Honestly.
	Would you, though?
	If you think you're a three?
	Then why would I want to feel like a three?
	I wouldn't feel good.
	My quality of life would be greatly diminished.
	I wouldn't bring that feel-good bubbliness to my environment.
	And people passing me are going to know that I feel like I am a three.
	I've got a question for both of you, or for the whole panel.
	Does saying you're something make it true?
	To me, yeah.
	So if you're a millionaire, or you say you're a millionaire, but you're not going to make it true.
	Yes.
	Well, no, because your bank account would indicate that you're not.
	Is it cumulative?
	I don't think like a rate necessarily defines you though.
	Like you can be like a five and a six.
	It doesn't mean that you don't think so highly of yourself.
	You're just a little more realistic of like where you land.
	You know, it doesn't mean that I don't have like a great personality or that like I'm super ambitious or I have all this going for me and that's how I show up in the world.
	But I think that when you when you rate yourself like an absolute 10, it can also be like a little unrealistic.
	But nobody else matters.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you, but nobody else matters.
	Also ask 10 people what a 10 looks like.
	You're gonna get 10 different opinions.
	So my version of a 10 is me.
	That might not be someone else's version of a 10, but like, that's what I mean.
	It's like, it's all objective.
	Q, what do you think?
	What do you think on this whole 10 thing?
	I did a, I had a tweet this morning.
	I tweeted.
	This conversation came up on Twitter, and I posted a picture of Margaret Robbie.
	Is that how you say?
	Margot Robbie?
	Yeah, Margot Robbie.
	And Leslie Johnson.
	Who's Leslie Johnson?
	She plays in Ghostbusters.
	You want to Google her, Nick?
	You tweeted this?
	Yeah, yeah, I tweeted this because it was.
	She's on SNL.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Is it the Q-Pill on Twitter?
	Yeah.
	We can pull it up.
	It's not like T-O-S or anything.
	You ain't posting like D-pics or anything on Twitter.
	T-OS.
	Genghis Kwan.
	Nick, are you able to find it?
	Here, I can send it to you if you want.
	But you're comparing a photo of a woman in her 50s and a woman in her 30s.
	Yeah, but the point was that beauty is objective.
	There's a consensus about what people will consider attractive.
	And it's based on culturally.
	So whatever you think you are, like most people cross-culturally, especially if you ask men to rate you, will give you a similar rating.
	And they may say you're more attractive or less attractive relative to what average is considered.
	Well, the reason why I bring it up, I used to live in China, and in China, their beauty standards are very different than American beauty standards.
	And, like, what?
	So, like, that whole idea of 10, what's considered a 10?
	I wouldn't say the standard is different because it's very different.
	No, no, I wouldn't say not based on the research.
	And the reason I say that is because that's subjective.
	The reason I say that is because there are markers of what makes somebody attractive, such as facial symmetry, high cheekbones, those kind of things.
	So, typically, if you're attractive, you're going to have a more symmetrical face as a woman, more neotinous features, a small chin, button nose.
	Typically, regardless of where you put place that woman in whatever culture, whatever country, she's going to be deemed attractive.
	Now, there can be variance in what people think is, you know, she may be an eight or a seven or a seven point five.
	But typically, if you say, Do you find this woman attractive?
	That woman is going to be deemed attractive.
	Do you find this woman unattractive or less attractive?
	That woman is going to be deemed.
	Well, going back to the question, the question was: What did I read myself?
	And that's a 10.
	Now, there is someone who's going to rate everyone a 10 or a 1 at one point.
	So, are we asking what a collective group of people would?
	Well, that's what the question is.
	Actually, that's what the question revolves around.
	It revolves around: do you have self-awareness of what you would objectively be rated?
	I know it's asking you to rate yourself, but they really want to see if you're delusional, if you believe that, yeah, yeah.
	They want to see if you rate yourself higher than what you actually would be objectively.
	Well, there was this quote that I saw recently, and this guy's like, this woman was posted and she was a plus-size model, and there's men coming in and they're like, She ain't a lady until she's 180.
	And I was like, Wow, like, okay, and all of them were agreeing, and I'm like, I guess they were into you know, the eye, they were into her, and that's a kink.
	So, that's like a good niche that women.
	Definitely a niche, definitely a niche.
	Yeah, go ahead, pull it up, Nick.
	Put us on the button.
	Can you make it one bigger?
	Well, even when she was younger, she wasn't cute.
	Objectively.
	There's consensus on which you want to read a Q?
	Oh, yeah.
	Scroll down a little bit, Nick, so you can see what I'm speaking.
	Oh, he said, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	All races.
	And I was replying to it.
	I said, bullshit.
	There's a consensus on which women are attractive and which women aren't.
	Margot Robbie is more attractive everywhere in the world.
	Leslie Jones is less attractive everywhere in the world.
	I actually have something on this too, but from what about ladies?
	Are there some men who are more attractive than others?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	I think.
	So hold on.
	Nick, can you Google?
	Actually, hold on.
	I'll give you what to Google.
	Google that and then Google.
	Hold on.
	This guy.
	One sec.
	One sec.
	While he's doing that, I'm going to read this.
	Ben George.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	More importantly than looks, what would you rate your attitude one to ten?
	Does it reflect others' attitude towards you?
	Which is more important, looks or attitude relative to one's health long term?
	What would you rate your attitude one to ten?
	I'd say I'm a solid like eight to nine, like a three.
	I'm gonna be honest.
	Why?
	I am very emotional and it changes from day to day.
	Are you uh like are you bipolar?
	No, I have ADHD.
	And I love it.
	Yeah, so I have a low attention span, and then I'll like say things and completely forgot that I said it.
	Yeah, I know.
	10 being like the sassiest, like you have a bad attitude.
	Like your attitude.
	Oh, like a good attitude versus bad attitude.
	Okay, um 10 being the best.
	Um, I would say I'm like um seven.
	Okay, yeah, I'm so confused.
	This doesn't mean like you're really positive as a person, like just peaceful, you keep the peace.
	I think a five because I'm just like chill and British and dumb.
	You know, I would say ten because I feel like people are like Pokemon cards where they have different strengths, and I feel like that is one of my strengths.
	So, yes, you're vibrant, you are very vibrant.
	Yeah, I'm a nine, I'm really optimistic.
	Yay!
	Okay, uh, what the guys have to answer, I guess.
	I'd say I'm an eight.
	I'd say I'm an eight.
	I'm pretty pretty mellow, even-tempered.
	I don't say I have a switch, but I haven't seen that switch.
	So, I'll just give myself a seven.
	I don't really know entirely what the question totally means, but um, uh, so I want to ask the girls, we're gonna compare two men now because you guys say, Well, I often hear this argument when it comes to the rating thing.
	Well, you know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you know, one person's ten could be another person's zero, and beauty is subjective, but I do think that there are like sort of universal, like if you could put a really attractive person in any culture, any country, there would be some consensus.
	Like, and you can compare, let's say, just some person who's really attractive.
	I guess you're saying, well, it's still subjective versus someone who's unattractive.
	I'll just remove the scale of they're attractive, unattractive.
	You could put two people together who look different and ask 100,000 people from different cultures, whatever, to rate them.
	There's probably going to be some like correspondence between the answers.
	I think it sorry, go ahead.
	Oh, you go ahead, you go ahead.
	I just think it gets complicated when we put ourselves into the equation.
	When we start taking it personally, I think that's when like there's no rules, I guess, for what also.
	I was gonna say, when you ask them to rate other guys' Instagram pages, we see the inconsistencies.
	I haven't seen them call anybody a 10 yet.
	When it's other men, nobody says, Oh, yeah, he's a 10.
	Yeah, good point, good point.
	Um, and actually, we'll do the bumble thing after this.
	So, Nick, could you pull up the first guy?
	All right, this is a male model, Francisco Lachowski.
	Scroll down a little bit, scroll down, super model.
	You can stop there.
	He's 31, so some of these might be when he's a bit younger, but I think he's 31 now.
	Would you guys all say that this is an attrition?
	Maybe he's not a 10 to you, but he's an attractive, like very attractive man.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Next guy.
	This is Luis Guzman.
	He is an actor.
	Scroll down a bit.
	Okay, ladies, who is more attractive?
	The first or the second guy?
	In my opinion, what I value would be the model, but there are some people who would prefer the machismo that the other guy has.
	And I see that.
	And the Adams family.
	It's the energy behind a man.
	It's his eyes.
	I could see it.
	So it's all about code.
	It's total code.
	Well, the first of the five-year-olds.
	Okay, so hold on.
	Which one is more attractive to you?
	Like, which one would I give a chance if he approached you?
	One's a child.
	He's 31.
	He's older than you.
	Wait, you're 28, right?
	You're being honest about your age?
	Yes.
	I said he was 31.
	How could he be a child?
	He looks young to me.
	He looks like a baby.
	So I just personally.
	That's not doing it for me.
	Are you actually 28?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You want my birth certificate?
	I didn't know I had a birthday certificate.
	She's 22.
	Let's see your idea.
	Who lies about being 28?
	Women.
	Oh, you'd be surprised.
	Pull up the driver's license right now.
	Which one's more attractive?
	I'll say the model.
	Will that make you happy?
	No, no, no.
	Just answer.
	It's not about what you're saying.
	Just answer the question.
	Okay.
	Share the model.
	Okay.
	The model.
	The first on the model.
	I would say the model, but I would approach the other one more to have a conversation, like in a sense where I could see his eyes and be like, oh, you connect with me.
	We've seen some shit.
	And then we talk at the bar, and I could see that happen.
	So yeah.
	Okay.
	He'd be her friend.
	Clearly, the model.
	Clearly the model.
	Well, do you think that?
	Yo, Doc Nadlis, thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
	Now it's possible, you know, it's possible.
	This is a very small sample size that we're just all outliers here.
	Do you think if I just went around and asked 100,000 women this question, do you think that, you know, you think that it could, I just could be totally wrong on this and that, you know, maybe it's more 50-50.
	50% of women find that guy attractive.
	What do you think?
	Or do you think it's probably 99% of women think the first guy is more tractable?
	Can you get a photo of him at the same age?
	I could.
	What does he look like at the end?
	I don't know.
	What if he's showing an older photo?
	It doesn't really matter, though, because even him younger, the second guy, even him younger, he doesn't do anything with the younger person.
	Yeah, there's no one.
	Thank you for being honest.
	I'm honestly.
	I don't think you could put that guy at his peak.
	I don't think he's.
	But it doesn't mean the second guy doesn't have all these amazing qualities, you know?
	Yeah, no, I know.
	They're just not physical.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying you.
	I'm just telling them.
	Because you're talking about conventional beauty and what's symmetrical and what's pleasing to the eye.
	With the first man, he's very feminine.
	He's very slim.
	He is very pale.
	It's a type that you're asking me to pick between one and a completely different type of person.
	The second man is very masculine.
	He is one of the most masculine men I've ever seen.
	And so you're asking a very difficult question.
	Well, hold on.
	Wait, hold on.
	Look, Google.
	You said he's.
	Are you talking about the way he acts?
	Just physically, like, the first one had more of that conventional, attractive face you described for a woman with the pointy nose and the slim chin.
	And he had a good, pretty good jawline.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He did have that kind of tape shape.
	No, I'm talking about the second guy.
	You said he's masculine.
	Yeah, he's got a very manly look about him.
	The first one looked kind of like a fan.
	We could find like a super Chadly.
	I don't know.
	Do you consider Brad Pitt to have a more masculine face?
	Yeah, than who?
	Sorry?
	Brad Pitt.
	Yeah, but then which one?
	Compared to the other masculine guy that you're talking about?
	The same guy.
	Yes, like I think he's like...
	Because you're saying, well, it's not fair, Brian.
	That guy has a more feminine face.
	Okay, well, let me.
	I'm trying to think of a man who's got a masculine face who's hyper-attractive.
	Channing Tatum?
	Channing Tatum, Chris Hemsworth?
	Chris Hemsworth.
	Yeah.
	What about Chris Hemsworth?
	Would he be more of what you're describing?
	The second guy, the first guy, isn't it?
	Facially?
	Yeah, Chris Hemsworth is more masculine than the first man.
	Sure.
	Definitely more.
	Yeah, the model kind of looked a little femme.
	But it was still very dressy.
	I can't see that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No facial hair.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	A baby.
	A baby.
	Just a bit of baby.
	They use pictures like that in saints as well.
	So that's what the limits are.
	Thank you.
	Don't you think it's a bit delusional, though, to consider yourself a 10?
	You tried to get me on this one last time.
	A 10 is perfect.
	Like, perfect, perfect, perfect.
	I have no flaws.
	I mean, it's my reality.
	So.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Don't you think it's a bit delusional?
	Yeah, but I'm a delusional black baby.
	All right.
	Well, these are all nice, I guess.
	Well, here's another question related to this.
	Do you think you will be more physically attractive in 10 years' time?
	Starting with you.
	I might be because I feel like I'm just, I'm 26 and I feel like I'm just filling out into my body.
	So every woman is different.
	Every one, every, no, I mean, I could show you some pictures of me whenever I was younger, and I feel I am becoming more feminine in my shape.
	My body has changed over time, as is so many other women.
	So I may be more attractive in 10 years.
	As you're getting older, your shape is getting more feminine.
	My hips.
	My hips?
	I'm getting hips.
	I'm getting an ass that I never had before.
	You're saying like you're gaining weight?
	No.
	My body can change in its shape.
	For me, when I was in high school, I was skinny mini.
	I was a stick.
	As I began to mature, my body started to do more of this, regardless of my weight.
	You can look at me whenever I was below 180 last year, and then you can see I still have that shape.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's my body is going to continue to change.
	So I may be more attractive in 10 years, regardless of the age.
	Puberty hit a while ago, though.
	We hit puberty like when we're a lot younger.
	Your body changes based on diet, environment, and your well-being.
	Yeah, what about aging?
	Does that have an impact on the body?
	That's where preservation comes into play.
	Yeah.
	You have to preserve yourself.
	Are you saying a 30?
	I can guarantee you you can pull up a 35-year-old woman who looks better than I do.
	That's fine.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	There's anomalies.
	So it doesn't.
	I might look better in 10 years.
	Anomalies.
	They're anomalies.
	Anomalies.
	You're saying 35-year-old women are not attractive?
	Yeah, because that's what you're getting.
	There's no 30, all things being equal, there's no such thing as a woman who's at 35 is more attractive than she was at 25.
	All things being equal.
	Well, they're different.
	You carry yourself differently.
	So someone can look, someone can be 25 and carry themselves like trash.
	By the time they're 35, they've grown into themselves.
	They feel good about themselves.
	And how they present themselves changes.
	So therefore, they may look better than they did at 25.
	But you know how I said all else being equal?
	So assume that this woman had all the things.
	You know, she dressed the right way.
	She finally figured out how to finally put the makeup on the right way, I guess.
	She was wearing all the right clothes.
	She was at the peak of her fitness.
	Because it always goes to, well, I was a drug addicted.
	You know, it's like at 25, she was drug addicted, obese, didn't know how to put on makeup, didn't know how to dress, had the dog shit personality.
	And then miraculously at 35, she's totally sober, at the peak of her fitness, knows how to do makeup, knows how to wear clothes.
	What if she knew all that stuff at 25?
	Would there ever be an argument where she's more attractive at 35, all else being equal?
	I don't think, though, I think it's apples and oranges, because like a 25-year-old face compared to a 35-year-old face, I feel like there's a self, it's an attractive person.
	There's still beauty, like one's more youthful, obviously, which is like a look.
	But like, you could say the same argument when you're 15.
	Like, like a 15-year-old or a 25-year-old, like, I don't think 35 you're like decrepit.
	Like, you're making it seem like she's falling apart.
	Not if she's like 65, it's a little bit different.
	That's not okay, so that's more nuanced.
	I don't think you age that much in 10 years.
	Yeah, you do.
	From 25 to 35, not in Los Angeles.
	Yeah, you do.
	That's true.
	Yeah, you do.
	They say you're not ugly, you're just broke.
	You definitely see it in the face and the skin.
	Not in Los Angeles.
	Do you think plastic surgery doesn't make you like plastic surgery doesn't make you okay, you're 35, you do some plastic surgery on your face.
	You look 25, you look 25 again.
	No, you look 35 with a bunch of fake shit in your face.
	I wasn't saying plastic surgery.
	I'm saying, like, when you're 25 and you're broke and you can't go to the gym and you can't afford good skincare and you eat like shit and you go to McDonald's all the time, and then you're 35 and you can actually go to a nice gym and you wash your face all the time and you can afford extensions, you're going to look better.
	I would actually argue a woman who has poor skin at 25 is actually going to probably beat out herself at $35.
	There's no woman at 35 more attractive than at 25.
	Woman logic, if you build it, they will come.
	Yeah.
	Look, again, just to be clear, women can absolutely be very attractive at 35.
	That's not what we're arguing.
	Not at all.
	You can still be very attractive at 35, 40, 45 even.
	Just not more.
	Even later, yeah, you're not going to be more.
	That's going to be more attractive.
	You were at 25.
	Y'all taking it to the extreme.
	Are you saying she's ugly?
	I'm just saying, I think that some women, like, there's a glow up for a reason.
	And men too.
	I think you can get what you're doing.
	Well, men are a bit different.
	No, but I still think some women look better when they get older just because they dress better and they know themselves more.
	And that, like, again, this money.
	Okay, but again, like, if I, let me use the term all else being equal.
	So let's assume that all those things that you claim to be, that could be in place at 35 are in place at 25.
	Would you agree that she is going to be ultimately more attractive at 25 than at 35?
	Your question is, is she more attractive at 25?
	All those things in place, her fitness, skincare, whatever, how to dress, all of those things are in place at 25.
	Will she be more attractive at 25 than at 35?
	I really just don't think there's a difference.
	There's no difference.
	I mean, obviously, I just don't think you get that much older at 35.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So you're 28, right?
	So do you think you'll be more attractive at 38 than you are now?
	Yeah.
	What about 48?
	Probably.
	So you'll be more attractive in 20 years.
	I have a great doctor.
	A great doctor?
	Yeah, you're going to have to be a little bit of a bad person.
	You're going to have to get back together.
	He's going to facelift it up to the heavens.
	See, that's the point, though.
	Why does he have to lift it up?
	Why does he have to lift it up?
	Let's assume you have to live.
	But 45, six kids later?
	The house, the dog?
	Yeah.
	I'm a Kenyan.
	I'm going to be stressed.
	I'm going to pull it back.
	So, in other words, you're going to look worse.
	No, no, no, because the doctor's going to snip that card off.
	You're not listening.
	Oh, without the doctor.
	Okay, but you didn't ask that question.
	Without the doctor, you're going to look worse.
	Well, the world will never know.
	So, you got to exclude the doctor.
	So, just to be clear, so even if we remove the doctor, you'll still be better looking in 20 years.
	20 years?
	Yeah, that's what I asked.
	You're 28 at 48.
	You said 10 years.
	Well, you said 48.
	And you did say you forget things because you got ADHD.
	Comes.
	That one would be a bit of an argument.
	I will give you that one.
	It might be not as attractive.
	Okay, but you will be more attractive at 38 than you are now at 28.
	Yeah, because I definitely think I look better now than I did at 21.
	And I know so many people who do look better now, later 20s than they did in their early 20s.
	I have a question for you on that.
	So couldn't you use that logic then?
	For like, let's say you were 38 now, and you said, well, because I look better now than I did at 28, then my trajectory must continue to go up.
	So why can't you make the argument for like, I'll look better at 45 or 48?
	Because realistically, that's a bigger plateau.
	So like, obviously, once I have 50s, then I'm going to have like more wrinkles and all that stuff, beautiful gray hair.
	When do you, but so you start aging, you know, most people peak around the early 20s, and then they'll start to be visible signs of aging, you know, progressively throughout your 20s.
	Yeah.
	At 25, you lose collagen.
	You start to break down collagen, but I don't.
	My argument is I don't think at 35 you look that.
	I mean, obviously you look a little bit older, but it's not like it's not your attractiveness goes down by two.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, you can still be attractive, but the difference between you now at 28 versus 38, or any person for that matter, is going to be massive.
	You want to pull up some celebrities and do the comparison?
	Celebrities are not good examples, though.
	No, it's not great examples, but unless they were a hot blank mess, no 40-year-old woman has ever looked back on their 20s and thought, I'm so glad my face doesn't look like that anymore.
	I think definitely like the older generation of women definitely aged a lot more gracefully than this generation.
	Like I know a lot of like my clients who are in their 40s like say like people like from my generation like age so badly now.
	And there's many reasons for that that we don't have to get into.
	But I think if you do hit a plateau, like my husband tells me when we first met versus now, that like I've gotten more attractive over the past few years.
	Wait, who said that?
	My husband.
	Wow.
	But yeah, whatever.
	And then, but I do know it's not going to be a good idea.
	Hold on, let me just interrupt real quick.
	I know it's not going to be a little bit more.
	Hold on, let me just interrupt really quick.
	I got a question for you really quick.
	Now, how would it go over with your husband if he said, you know what, babe, you're starting to look worse and worse over the years.
	Would that go over well?
	I don't think you would tell me that, even if it was true.
	That's the point.
	Exactly.
	Well, that's the point.
	That's what he's saying.
	No, I'm actually agreeing with you.
	I'm saying I think sometimes in your early 20s, you can look better and then you hit a peak and then you start to regress.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm saying you can kind of look more like, you know, a child.
	And then you like, you know, you go through your teenage years.
	You go through your teenage years, you're developing, and then maybe you're still looking more and more womanly through your early 20s.
	And then maybe at like 25, every year after that, you regress just a little bit more.
	So, yeah, I agree that you're not going to look better 10 years, you know.
	For myself, I don't think I'll look better at 35.
	I mean, I'll look really good, but I won't look better than I do now.
	Yeah.
	I look worse.
	Do you think there's a like a 20?
	Oh, my God.
	I was like not 20 to 25.
	Do you think that there's like a huge degradation in appearance in that range?
	There might be like a little bit, but it would just be mine.
	Yeah, it'd be minimal.
	Fairly minimal.
	Or there's a transformation that happens from 20 to 25.
	You grow into your face, and then from 25 to 30, you are owning that face.
	And then in your 30s, you have your body and you have your face.
	Y'all aren't women.
	You don't get it.
	Oh, we get it.
	Well, realistically, like the older you get, you start to get it.
	You don't get it.
	That's the problem.
	You don't get it.
	You, you just, because you want to hold on to your life.
	I'm not trying to hold on to my youth.
	I understand that I'm going to age.
	I get that.
	I do.
	Oh, my God.
	I do.
	Yeah, I'm 26.
	I'm like, wow, I have to put moisturizer on now.
	I didn't do that before.
	So you're 26.
	Are you going to be more attractive at 36 than you are now?
	I might be.
	What about 46?
	Would you be more physically attractive then?
	I mean, it depends.
	Depends on what?
	Depends.
	I mean, like, on your preservation.
	What does that mean?
	She's going to freeze herself or something like that.
	Fucking cryonics.
	She's going to pause time.
	So around what age then do y'all think women peak in their physical relationships?
	Wait, I'm not sure.
	Oh, let's actually ask that question.
	Share.
	Look at share.
	I think like 25 to 28.
	I got 25.
	I just want to get around the table on a question.
	So are you going to be better looking in 10 years as compared to how you look now?
	No.
	No.
	I should have asked this first.
	Maybe, but not 20.
	Maybe better looking in 10 years, but not 20.
	So you're 31, right?
	Yeah.
	So you'll be better looking at 41 than you are now at 31?
	Maybe, yeah.
	Maybe, okay.
	I hope so, but probably not.
	And you're 25, right?
	Yeah.
	So do you think you'll be better looking at 35 than you are now at 25?
	I mean, I hope so, but probably.
	Let's remove hope from this.
	What do you actually think?
	If I'm being honest, I think so because I look so young right now.
	I feel like I don't even look 25.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You're 32, correct?
	Yeah.
	So will you be better looking at 42 than you are now at 32?
	Probably not.
	Hopefully not too much worse, though.
	And then Q, what was the question that you were about to ask?
	Oh, I'll say, at what age do you think women peak in attractiveness facially?
	I believe like between 25 to 35.
	I didn't get my face.
	I feel like I still very much have a baby face at 26.
	Like, I think it just depends.
	But I would say, I predict, like, my face is changing now.
	I can see it.
	But I predict, I don't know.
	There's other women at the table.
	So this is just my opinion.
	But I would say 25 to maybe like early 30s is when I will know.
	But right now, I still very much have a baby face.
	So it's going to be different for everyone.
	Everyone ages differently.
	So I don't think that there's a.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Was the question like what age does your attractive net like peak?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because yeah, like where do you think you're most attractive?
	At what age do you think you're most attractive before it starts to decline?
	I mean, then you could just say like 20.
	Okay.
	But you're saying that the decline?
	Like, what do you mean by like the whole conversation we're having about you're less attractive?
	Will you be less attractive in 10 years or 20 years?
	You said you think you'd be more attractive in 10 years, but not necessarily 20, which would indicate that you think you'll continue to increase in beauty.
	Okay, at what age does it start to go down?
	Okay, I understand that.
	Yes.
	I do want to jump in here really quick.
	When Q said 20, you guys made like a little face.
	What exactly you was your qualm with the 20 thing?
	No, she just said something about it.
	Oh, you were like 20 and you were in the middle of the morning.
	I said not me.
	And then she left.
	Oh.
	It wasn't that like that's weird for people to think that women are at their peak at 20?
	It's not weird for people.
	Oh, okay.
	I just wanted to clarify.
	No, no.
	I don't say that.
	Like, I'm just saying for me, that was, I don't think that was the case at 20.
	Did you want to continue?
	Sure.
	I will say 35.
	Is peak okay?
	Like 25 to 28.
	I think 25, because it also depends on genetics.
	They do play a huge role.
	For me, we were talking about the bucle.
	Is it called the bucol?
	Coca.
	So genetically, like my face looked like this when I was like 14, and I have those photos.
	So I looked really similar, and I know that in 10 years' time, this is going to get worse, and I'm going to look like just kind of skeletal.
	Excuse me.
	And but there's a thing, it's like, then I'm going to probably go into more of the grunge, like, you know, you know, Tim Burton look, and we'll just run with that, you know?
	The heroin cheek.
	Embrace it, baby.
	The hero and cheek look.
	I think that, I mean, I don't, I don't ever want to like say anyone can decline, but I feel like when someone you can see their whole life in their eyes, that's when they've reached their sexiest peak.
	Like when you can see their story, like in their eyes.
	I think that, because some people, if they are distracted and dissociated to things, you can't really, you don't really know what is happening, but yeah.
	So wait, when do you think women peak?
	I would say at 35.
	Yeah, I would say around 35 is like a peak.
	Because then people know who they are.
	Well, we're talking about looks, but let's just move it on the back of it.
	I'd say probably mid-20s to late 20s.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's why with that one.
	I have a question for you on this.
	So you said like, you know, you're going to look better when you're in 10 years, 20 years, whatever.
	So if I could wave a magic wand that only advanced your outer appearance to how you will look in 10 years, no impact on your health.
	You don't age your bot.
	So your longevity is the exact same.
	You wouldn't die 10 years sooner.
	You wouldn't experience any health issues that would have otherwise come 10 years sooner.
	Only advanced your outer appearance to how you look in 10 years.
	No impact on your health.
	Would you take it?
	Yeah.
	And I'm only going off based on my family.
	I have a lot of people and like my mother and like people I know, they look the same.
	But you look at those pictures, it's not that much of a difference.
	But it's genetically.
	No, but you would have to tell me if you're not.
	You can't argue with this, I guess.
	Sometimes there's no getting through to people.
	Sometimes there's no getting through.
	At 35, I have more money, so even better.
	Doesn't make you more physically attractive.
	But I don't think I look that different.
	I don't think I'll look that different.
	That's my opinion.
	You're 28, right?
	Do you have any photos of you from when you were 21 or you look worse?
	18.
	I looked worse.
	I had acne.
	And I drank a lot, so I was more popular.
	I'm going to read a chat here.
	We have LPE.
	Thank you, man.
	Brian, I bet all the doll hairs in my bank account.
	The chair number two is not 28.
	Pull out the ID or Frank Castle, stop the damn cap.
	LPE, what if I make you a proposal?
	I make you a deal.
	Are you willing to do a champagne pop?
	If she is, so you're betting she's not.
	Champagne pop if she is in fact 28.
	So we do champagne pop.
	That would be fine.
	Let's do it.
	Can I see your ID?
	I won't show it to the camera.
	We can get $19.95, baby.
	I will not show it to the camera.
	She is.
	Boys, she's getting the ID.
	We're getting the confirmation.
	Yeah.
	Here we go.
	Marie isn't a liar.
	Wait, shouldn't it also be?
	Wait, he doesn't.
	Wait, does he do champagne pop if she's if she is 28?
	Yeah, if she is.
	He has to do a champagne pop if she is 28.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, don't show it.
	Wait, don't, don't, don't show it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Pass it over to me.
	Oh, yeah, verification.
	Let's not show it to you.
	All right.
	Q's going to confirm.
	Sagittarius.
	It's a fake passport.
	I'm kidding.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	1995, baby.
	What year?
	1995.
	The best year.
	It does say 95 in your passport.
	That's a champagne pop.
	Listen, wait, hold on, Q. Just so I'm not like, I'm.
	I have my Brazilian passport too.
	I have my Kenyan passport too.
	How many passports do you need?
	Oh, okay.
	What if it's a fake passport?
	First of all, you wouldn't get a fake passport.
	You would get a fake ID, bro.
	That's why we're going to get it.
	Wait, why the passport, not the ID?
	Don't worry about it.
	Oh, because did you guys see that flick?
	It was the most feminine flick ever.
	Beta male flick.
	Yo, that's a champagne pop, LPE.
	You didn't even say yes or no, but I'm just going to contractually legally bind you, and I'll send my ruthless pit bull lawyer after you if you don't do a champagne pop.
	Just kidding.
	But if you want to.
	She is 28.
	Q verified.
	Gustava verified.
	It does say 95 on her passport.
	So, oh, awkward.
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to move it on.
	Let's get into Nick.
	We got a lot to do.
	Related to looks, and I want to wait until everybody's back sitting down because we have two people who are up.
	I want to do the bumble thing.
	So we've been meaning to do this for a while.
	It might be a little funky because it's our first time doing it.
	It's clunky, excuse me.
	We're going to pull up Bumble and we're going to give each of the girls 10 swipes to see how picky they are.
	Oh, I shouldn't have said that.
	Fuck.
	God damn it.
	Okay.
	God damn it.
	Just okay, just still be honest.
	You each get 10 swipes on Bumble and we're going to see who you say yes to and who you say no to.
	Now, Nick, do you think that we do just the first photo and they judge based off of just the first photo?
	Or do they get to see some of the profile?
	No, no.
	No.
	Just first?
	Just a first photo.
	That's all you really look at anyway.
	Like, your first needs to be solid.
	Would you not look at the information like the bio?
	Yeah, what if he's like.
	So we're going to wait until all the girls are back at the table to do that.
	Okay, so for clarification, is this swiping, is this for a partner or is this for just a wham bam?
	Thank you, ma'am.
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	I don't know.
	Just do you think they're attractive, I guess?
	Okay, so just off of looks.
	Okay.
	Okay, so I guess while we're waiting for them, was there something else we were going to pull up, Nick?
	Yeah, we have the CNN article.
	There's a CNN thing with Bumble.
	Do you want that next?
	Yeah, let's do the CNN article about Bumble.
	Yeah, fuck it.
	Whatever.
	Adeline, could I have you read the title?
	Yeah, Dating App Bumble will no longer.
	You ready?
	Yeah.
	Dating at Bumble will no longer require women to make the first move.
	All right.
	That's quite a change.
	And then we're going to have you read, starting from the New York.
	Ten years after creating a new model for dating apps with its women make the first move feature, Bumble's opening the door to men starting conversations on its platform.
	Bumble is rolling out a new feature called opening moves that will let female users set a prompt to which male suitors can respond to initiate a conversation.
	Oh, what?
	Wow.
	The feature reverses a long-standing requirement by the app that women send the first message to their matches, which Bumble said gave women more power over their dating lives.
	The new feature is part of a larger relaunch of the app announced Tuesday by new CEO Jones, who took over the top job from Founder earlier this year.
	The move comes as dating apps broadly are working to maintain their relevance as some singles have become burnt out on online dating and are seeking more in-person connections.
	Let me see if there's anything else worth reading here.
	They're just trying to stay relevant.
	Taking us a great call for action.
	That kind of takes away the whole novelty of what Bumble was.
	Read from the new opening moves.
	Actually, can I have you read it?
	Sure.
	The new opening moves feature is one way Jones says Bumble is evolving while staying true to its original mission of empowering women.
	Now, women users will have the option to continue initiating conversations with matches or to set an opening move.
	For example, a question about a potential match is dream dinner guest.
	That would indicate that they want their match to reach out first.
	For non-binary users or those seeking same-gender matches, either person can set and respond to an opening move.
	And we're going to skip that part, scroll down just a bit.
	I don't know if you can see that.
	And then.
	Can you read just these next ones?
	Who me?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The changes could be key to returning Bumble, which also owns dating apps Badu and Fruits, to profitability after it posted a 1.9 million net loss last year.
	The company's share price has also plummeted 86% from its initial public offering in February 2021.
	All right.
	Thank you for reading that, guys.
	We should have you read more.
	That was good.
	That was really good.
	It's got a good reading Voice.
	Thank you.
	So, have any of you ever been on Bumble?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so, Bumble, at least they're changing it now.
	It used to be that the woman had to send the message first, right?
	What do you guys think of this new change?
	Yay, nay.
	I like it.
	So it's basically just like every other single dating app now.
	Yeah.
	This is my opinion on Bumble and Tinder.
	I always said Bumble is better quality and Tinder is trash unless you're looking for purely a good time than Tender is where the party's at.
	Bumble, the men who are on there are going to be more conventionally attractive men because all of the other men are going to go to Tender, where they have higher chances and they're going to spend more time there, as opposed to the men who are going to and you can look at you can play devil's advocate, maybe all the players are on bumble, but I would say bumble is better quality because the the type of men there.
	If you are a looks-based person, then bumble's gonna have a lot more looks, more attractive men than tender.
	It's my opinion.
	I have a question.
	Okay, I have a question then, for the panel.
	Um, those of you who were on Bumble, what was your typical opening line?
	Hi, were you on bumble?
	I would just comment something on their profile.
	I would just try to find something to start a conversation.
	Okay, I never been on Bumble, never had Bumble.
	What about you?
	Um, I tried it and I would just be like howdy partner with a cowboy emoji.
	Okay, are you?
	I think I would just be like, make sure I had a lot of emojis, because that if I'm excited and want to meet somebody new, I like emojis.
	Red flag.
	No, it's just.
	Why is emoji a red flag?
	Somebody like excessive emoji usage?
	It's kind of like this person's crazy.
	You know what I mean?
	Okay yeah, I've never had.
	Yeah, I've never had Bumblebees on Bumble.
	Okay, and Q, have you been on Bumble?
	I did the um.
	When it I think when it first came out it had the 24-hour free thing.
	I did like a little social experiment to see how many women would initiate um for 24 hours.
	I got like 33, 34 uh initiations and then I cut it off after that.
	Is it a paid platform now?
	When I did it, it was, oh wow, you had like a free trial or something like that.
	In the beginning, in my, in my days, it was more.
	In my days it was more, it was more.
	So it was just that you have 24 hours to send a message and then they have 24 hours to respond to you, and then it went away.
	That match would essentially expire and then you would just go on.
	It was something like that.
	It said 24 hours for something, so I only did it for 24 hours and then I only responded to you.
	You match, but they have to respond.
	No, it should be free.
	I don't know when you used it, but it it was like it was like three years ago, three or four years ago yeah, I don't know.
	I haven't been on dating apps in a while, but I was on it for a decent amount of time, have a good amount of experience with it.
	It's been a while though, so I don't know what they've changed since then.
	My experience, and what I've heard from a lot of men, is is that while yes, women do have to Message first, and it was this, you know, sometimes an idea ideal, like it makes sense, but then when it's actually in practice, it really doesn't achieve its aimed goal or what it's actually trying to achieve.
	So, what often happens on Bumble, and what I assume still does happen on Bumble, is even though women have to send the first message, typically, and you mentioned your first message was high, they would do what women hate on all the other dating apps, which is if a guy just says hi, a lot of women don't like that.
	It's low effort, every other person's doing it, you don't stand out.
	My experience was, I want to say 95% of women would say something like, hi, hey, what's up?
	How's it going?
	Hey with three whys, hi with seven I's.
	It was always the same.
	And the same criticisms they'd have of men on other dating platforms where men had to initiate, women just repeated those same things that they took quarrel with on Tinder, Hinge, whatever.
	So what would often happen is, yes, the woman has to send the first message.
	They send a hi or an emoji or a waving face, whatever.
	And then they immediately, after the token amount of initiative that they've taken, they immediately push back all the other burdens of trying to make something happen right back onto the guy.
	So it didn't really achieve anything.
	It just made this token thing.
	The woman just says hi, boom, conversational burden right back on the guy, asking for the first date, right back on the guy, getting the number right back on the guy, setting up the date right back on the guy, you know, moving things forward from there, right back on the guy.
	So it was didn't really achieve anything, I think.
	I think going on.
	It wasn't empowering.
	It was just fake empowering.
	I think the quality, like she was saying, is just a little bit better than Tinder and then the mentality behind it where people are just not going purely for hookups.
	Yeah, it was probably, I do think Bumble was a bit more, people were probably still on there doing casual sex and stuff, but a little more less hookupy than Tinder.
	And I would make the same argument for Hinge.
	Hinge took it a step forward and it was a bit more serious than both Bumble and Tinder.
	But it's just always interesting to me.
	Like the entire premise of this was like women taking ownership, initiating.
	But it's bogus.
	Yeah, because it goes against their nature.
	Because, okay, you say hi, and then you just immediately revert to what you, like how you would have conducted yourself if the guy messaged you first.
	You just immediately, most women on Bumble would say hi and then just immediately take the back seat anyways and wait for the man to drive the entire rest of the conversation, wait for him to ask for a phone number, wait for him to set up the date.
	So that's because the premise of the app is stupid.
	Women shouldn't be making the first move pursuing the guy, especially on a dating app where both people are on there for a relationship or to start talking.
	If a guy knows that this girl is open because she's on this app, there's no excuse for him not to start the conversation.
	Yeah, it's a shitty strategy.
	It's a shitty strategy that they built it on.
	They have a poor fundamental understanding of male and female differences when it comes to sexual pursuit.
	I mean, little lesson for y'all.
	The part of the brain that's responsible for sexual pursuit is 2.5 times larger in men than women.
	And that's why we are the ones who typically initiate.
	Attraction is a lot more contextual for women as well, which is why, even though they say hi, the burden of conversation falls back on men because now men have to elicit an attractive response by saying something that engages the woman, letting the woman know something about him.
	He has to be able to basically hold a conversation.
	A lot of women say men can't hold conversations.
	So that's why the burden of conversation falls back on men.
	The woman says hi, the guy's like, oh, she's interested, and now, yep, it's right back on you, bro.
	You got to say something that makes me want to go out with you or that makes me feel more interested in you, essentially, you know?
	Yeah.
	But I'd actually be curious to ask the chat, maybe Nick, can you show us the chat here?
	So for the viewers, those of you who had bumble, would it more often than not be the case, or the majority of the time, would the women just go, hey, or some permutation thereof, and then would the ball immediately just be back in your court?
	Can you scroll it up or make it a little bigger?
	You might have to.
	It probably has to be adjusted in that YouTube tab.
	We do have a bit of lag with the chat here.
	We changed something, so the chat is going to lag a little bit.
	Well, you can hide this.
	I'm just checking here.
	A couple things.
	Okay, fine.
	Sorry, guys.
	The chat is super delayed at this point.
	So, yes, yes, yes.
	Every time.
	Yep, yes.
	Yep, duh.
	Either high or a dumb gift.
	95% of hay.
	They would just post their Instagram.
	She's not.
	That's something.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So we're going to do, we're going to switch to the segment now.
	We're going to have the girls swipe on some, speaking of bumble, swipe.
	You each get 10 swipes.
	Okay.
	Nick, you can go for it.
	And can you put us on maybe the other side?
	Actually, it should be fine.
	Okay.
	Or corner.
	Corner.
	Yeah.
	So, just say yes or no.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	One girl at a time.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes?
	Yeah, Nick, go ahead.
	Oh, fuck.
	How do we do it without it matching?
	Continue.
	Okay, yeah, just exile that as quick as you can.
	No.
	No?
	Dirty mirror.
	No.
	Full of himself.
	Put together, yes.
	We should maybe do we adjust the age range possibly for the because you're 26, right?
	So you're probably inclined to date.
	No.
	No?
	Just, are you, are they physically attractive, I guess?
	No.
	No.
	Should probably just keep it over the X. Nick.
	No.
	How many is that?
	No.
	I can't even see them.
	They're trying to use the tools to get swaps.
	I was on dating activities.
	Actually, you know what?
	My ability to look is very quick.
	You actually don't.
	You can just pass on all of them because the viewers hear the answer.
	Was that 10?
	Gustavo, can you keep track for me?
	We're going to you now.
	Go ahead.
	No, because I can't see this face.
	Okay.
	I don't know which one he is, so no.
	We might.
	Is it yes, but I don't like the guy in the back.
	Like, who is it?
	Unless he was the first one.
	No, because you need a better filter.
	Oh, Kiki.
	No.
	Almost got her.
	I can't tell which one, so no.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Damn, he was hot.
	Yes. Yes. Yes.
	Sus.
	Okay, what about you?
	No. No. No. No. No.
	She's married.
	Yeah, if you guys are dating someone, just, you know, if you were single, I guess.
	No, I am.
	Okay, okay.
	No.
	No.
	Not in a public.
	Nope.
	No.
	Nope.
	Okay, no.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Can I pet that dog?
	No, sorry.
	No.
	Yes.
	Good job.
	Uh, yes.
	Really?
	No.
	Got a mask on.
	What?
	No.
	No.
	Rip.
	No.
	Wait, hold on.
	Nick, can you make one adjustment?
	Can you actually put us back to right big?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	Oh, was that 10?
	You?
	Um, no.
	No.
	Yes.
	Uh, no.
	Um, maybe I just have to see his face, but no.
	Oh, yeah, he is nice.
	No.
	No.
	Definitely not.
	Um, I don't, yeah, I don't know which one, so no, because I don't know which one.
	You. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
	Okay. Zero out of ten.
	All right.
	I'm in pass.
	I got one.
	You don't want to do it?
	No, no.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Damn.
	Wait, I want to hold on.
	Let's bring it back up really quick.
	We're going to go until we get a yes.
	Go ahead.
	No.
	No.
	Mine was all no's too, by the way.
	No.
	Chandra Shakar, you wouldn't?
	No.
	Is this how dating apps are?
	Okay, no.
	Women are on dating apps.
	No.
	I mean, is it fair?
	No.
	Robot got the yearbook picture.
	No.
	I got a bad one.
	It's okay.
	Don't worry.
	We're still going.
	No.
	What?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	I'm just taking that.
	No.
	No.
	I'm not being picky.
	No.
	Do you like older men?
	No.
	Yeah, I do like older guys.
	Let her answer.
	No.
	Maybe him because he cooks.
	Well, too bad, you pat.
	No.
	Maybe change the age range.
	No.
	A nick.
	Just jacket check reminder.
	No.
	No.
	He's a lawyer, bro.
	Maybe him.
	Okay, maybe him.
	Wait, which one?
	The middle one.
	The back one.
	Which one?
	The guy in the jig jersey.
	All right.
	Thou finally a yes.
	So how many was that?
	Like 50, 46?
	So one out of 46.
	Like that's like 2% swipe rate or whatever.
	Sorry.
	And the range is a range.
	Wait.
	So, chat, I want to ask you, do you guys like this segment?
	I'd like to do it again.
	I don't know if you thought it was boring.
	It's our first time doing it.
	I think it was pretty interesting, though, guys.
	It's a good experiment.
	It's a good experiment.
	And maybe we can do it.
	Maybe we do like 20 per girl or something.
	But yo, chat, did you like it?
	Did you like it?
	Yes or no?
	Did you like it?
	Yes or no?
	Liked it?
	Yes or no?
	Bumble is dead.
	Good segment.
	Okay, getting some yeses.
	No, it sucks.
	This is doomed.
	That was brutal.
	That was fun.
	No, Yeah, I think we need to adjust, like for each girl, adjust the age range.
	Yeah.
	And do a couple adjustments, but it was our first time doing it.
	Oh, I'm just going to do it.
	I think if you guys didn't learn anything, group photos is a no-go.
	Animal photos will get you considered.
	No buzzballs.
	I still like buzzballs.
	Don't do that either.
	I think even if the guy was attractive, some of the reason why I said no to some of them was because he kind of looked like kind of like a partier in the picture, and I didn't want a partier.
	So like, yeah.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
	Yeah.
	Thank you guys.
	And then what else?
	Let's finally get, we're going to get into the show notes here.
	One sec, guys.
	So we had, we did the view thing, the BBL video, the BBL video.
	Was that no-go right, Nick?
	No.
	Okay.
	So, let's see, we need to do...
	Oh!
	Just Gerald donated $990.
	Let me do it.
	I got it.
	Don't you?
	Champagne.
	I'll cover you.
	Let's fucking go.
	Celebrate the victories, Brian.
	Don't open that.
	There's a bear in my driveway breaking into the garbage again.
	Just to bear.
	Thank God it's not a mouth.
	Oh, let me.
	Wow.
	Dude, Gerald, thank you for the fucking massive pop champagne.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Wow.
	Here's the champagne bottle.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That's what he's doing.
	That's what he's the GOAT.
	The GOAT.
	Also, for Gerald.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Now, mind you, we have multiple champagne bottles.
	So LPE, you know, you did do a bet.
	You said, what did you say?
	You said you have all the dull hairs.
	Ha ha.
	So I guess, you know.
	Ooh, we got the cups there.
	All right, let me see.
	I watched a tutorial like two weeks ago because I keep fucking this up.
	Let me see if I can finally.
	Oh, I got it.
	Don't worry.
	I'll just aim it towards you.
	Towards your very expensive.
	You want some pro tips?
	You got to remove this.
	Oh, you got it.
	No, no, no.
	Let me.
	You should let him fail.
	I need to learn finally.
	Okay.
	I need to learn.
	Ah, goddammit.
	It didn't fuck you.
	You didn't practice.
	All right.
	So apparently you take this thing off.
	This is the moment you've been waiting for.
	And then you, this thing, you screw it.
	Oh, my God.
	Does this pain?
	Yeah.
	Apply pressure to the top.
	Sorry, can you?
	Just aim it towards.
	You could use like a towel.
	Are you going to shake it?
	Oh, gosh.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Okay, hold on.
	I need a moment.
	My hands are all sweating.
	I'm nervous, bro.
	Q, while I'm doing this, do you want to ask them a question?
	No.
	Wait.
	Here we go.
	Oh!
	The last time I got bottles, you know, I loosened it up for Madison that one time that she...
	I don't know if, Maddie, have you opened one?
	No, I think it was somebody else.
	I always loosen it up for them, but you know.
	So everyone's over 21, right?
	I'm 28.
	Okay, who wants champagne?
	I would change it.
	Who wants everybody?
	Sure, I'll take champagne.
	All right, we need to get liquored up.
	You gotta get.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Maybe still leave it there until they pour it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, you're right.
	What's up?
	That's smart.
	You're smart.
	Hold on.
	What the fuck was I thinking?
	That's why you need women.
	I'm going to pour one out for my homies.
	I'm going to pour it out.
	I'm going to pour it out.
	Rest in peace.
	Oh, shit.
	I almost fucked that up.
	Q, do you want to do the honors of serving everybody's family?
	Sideways so it doesn't bubble.
	Yeah, I fucked that up.
	Got to go at an angle.
	Yeah, like at an angle.
	Yeah, at an angle, like you would serve beer.
	I've never served beer before.
	Cheers to Gerald.
	LPE.
	How are you going to let another man pay your debt?
	How are you going to let somebody else do that?
	But yo, Gerald, thank you, man.
	You're a fucking legend.
	By the way, Gerald, you're, um, I forgot if it was last week or on Sunday.
	Wait, who was it with?
	You had this really good- No, it was this- Oh, that was the other conversation we were having.
	So we were having, why is everybody getting up right now?
	God damn.
	God damn.
	They're coming back.
	I just don't know what's going on.
	Is there going to be enough?
	Gerald.
	He had a very good point about, I was having a lively debate with this woman.
	What's the going on in the last one?
	About, would you be willing to take a bullet for your man?
	And actually, I think that has great potential for conversations on this podcast.
	Or no.
	Would the man take a bullet for his woman?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So, Gerald, and you made a very astute observation of she wouldn't bow, but she wants her man to, you know.
	Anyways, so has everybody got some?
	Yeah.
	He is a brave and a decent man.
	Oh, did I not?
	Wait.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	So to Gerald.
	Thank you, brother.
	We'll do a cheer once everybody's back.
	There's only one bathroom.
	What are you guys doing back there?
	She doesn't drink, though, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, okay.
	Are you just waiting for the bathroom?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, fuck it, we're going to just, all right, salut.
	Cheers.
	Cheers.
	Thanks to Gerald.
	Was that his name?
	Oh, he's cool.
	Share the bottle.
	To Gerald.
	It's okay.
	You missed it.
	Cheers.
	Cheers.
	Are you drinking out of the bottle?
	Let's go.
	It's very good.
	It's good champagne.
	All right.
	Getting back on topic.
	What were we talking about?
	We just finished bumble.
	Just finished the bumble.
	And I'll buy a bumble.
	Taking a bullet.
	Oh, sure.
	Why don't we go there?
	We'll talk about that.
	So, ladies, do you have an expectation of your man, him to give, to make the sacrifice, to give his life to protect you?
	Would you want that quality in a man, that he would be willing to sacrifice his life to protect you in some scenario where it's him or it's you?
	I would hate for that to happen.
	I think that that's a noble quality to have, but I wouldn't want to ever be in that position.
	So I say yeah yes, it's noble, it's very noble.
	Would you want a man to lay down his life to protect you?
	Yes, but I think I would have tremendous survivor skill for that.
	Okay, I think yes, because I would do the same in a scenario.
	Yes, because I would do the same.
	Yes, i've lost two lovers so no, I don't know if I could do a third, but it's not really the question right, but I, I just they lost.
	Did they lose their life protecting you?
	No, yeah.
	So the question is, I just don't know if I could live without him, so you would, okay.
	So here's the scenario.
	Doesn't mean there's a bullet coming.
	There's a bullet coming.
	He can jump in front of you and protect you.
	Would you prefer that over to just taking the bullet and dying.
	Yeah I, I just know it would be hard for me to, but I would be like wow well, at least you know he died defending me and he, that's what he wanted to do.
	Not is the man's duty to to protect his woman.
	I, I think a man should want to protect his woman, like be a protector, like I think that the the right woman brings the protector out to the extent of sacrificing his own life to protect you.
	I think that the right woman will bring that just out of a man naturally, but if it's the wrong woman, no like, but but all of a sudden, if it's the right woman, it will bring that out of him and he won't even know, like why he did it.
	Like it's just like that.
	Imagine finding out you'd be bad.
	What about you?
	Yes yes, you'd want him to sacrifice his life to protect you.
	Yeah okay, I hope he's ready to, because i'm probably instinctually going to just jump behind him right yeah like, I would do it too.
	That's why, now q you were here for this, I was actually curious to know like, would you, would you'd lay down your, your life for a female friend, female female girlfriend, for my girlfriend, for your girlfriend?
	Yeah, because if she gets to that point, then I really, really care about her.
	If she's my girlfriend, then I really really care about her.
	So for me it's instinctual.
	I'm actually a very protective guy.
	Yeah, you take the bullet, good for you.
	Yeah okay, as a matter of fact, I might think i'm bulletproof.
	So you know babe, get behind me.
	I got this.
	It like ricochets off of you.
	Yeah, you're a better man than me.
	Um question, so wait, you wouldn't.
	Well, i'll get into that.
	I'll get to that.
	I'll get to that in just a sec.
	God damn, i'm already fucking tipsy from the guys.
	The only time I drink, only time I drink is when somebody does a champagne pop.
	When was the last champagne pop?
	Two months ago.
	That was the last time I drank.
	I never drink.
	So uh, literally two sips.
	I'm already feeling okay.
	Uh, how early on would you want a guy to be what like, willing to take a bullet for you?
	I feel like it may be a red flag if he does it too early on.
	Um, I would be like, oh wow, let's say, your boyfriend girlfriend, you've been dating for six months.
	Uh-huh, should he take a bullet then?
	Yeah okay oh, hold on.
	Nickelodion donated 200.
	Thank you man, why would he defend you?
	He's just a man trying to assault you and none of you trust men anyway.
	Whoa, that's actually like a really interesting.
	On one hand, women are terrified of men.
	They'd prefer to be in a forest with a bear.
	Different if it's a guy you're dating.
	But they also acknowledge that men are also typically the when it lets talk about the heroism gap between men and women.
	Men are also most likely to be the ones who do these heroic deeds and save people.
	So that's always interesting.
	Can we?
	Maybe I'm feeling it too, because now I'm curious what the actual like statistic is on bear encounters, like how many deaths there are.
	I am curious, but then so much.
	Well, let's go around the table on the how soon thing, but I'll look into that.
	Go ahead.
	I'll go with six months.
	Six months?
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	I don't know.
	I've never thought about that.
	At least a year.
	I missed the first two.
	So six months, no expectation for him to lay down his life?
	No.
	No.
	How soon?
	A year.
	One year.
	I literally missed so much.
	So it's like, would I take a boat for him?
	Would you take a boat for me?
	And then how soon should we do that?
	Yeah, she got it.
	Okay.
	I probably would take a bullet because, you know, I'm really dumb.
	And then he probably should because he's a man and he's probably built that way.
	That's why most infantry men are men.
	And then, I mean, it should be instinctual for him, but at the same time, like, why would a man risk losing his life and letting other people down to save someone he's just met?
	So I don't know.
	I was like, oh.
	So how soon into a relationship should a guy be willing to sacrifice his life for his girlfriend?
	Time span, I'm not sure, but when she's his, like.
	Okay, here's the way to view this.
	Here's the way to view this.
	Your boyfriend and girlfriend with a guy, you've only been dating for three months, though.
	Would you want him in that instance?
	Like, would you have an expectation of him to lay down his life for you?
	No, your boyfriend and girlfriend.
	He just met me, probably, yeah, like a year into it.
	Okay, all right.
	I think that when a guy says he loves me, like if he's like, I love you, and I'm like, really, would you take a bullet for me?
	And he goes, ooh, and then no.
	And then I'd be like, that's okay.
	Like, I, I, you know, you don't have to.
	I don't have no expectation, but I wouldn't believe his love.
	Like, I think that if it seems like it takes a guy a while to fall in love with me, apparently, according to my dating records, but yeah, maybe like a year or so.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Um, I don't know.
	This is a complicated question.
	I, in my head, I would say, like, immediately, if like whenever we're out and about first date.
	Yeah.
	First date, he should.
	Just show that it's real.
	Showed me real.
	So your guy, just to be clear, just to be clear.
	So you're currently still hung up on your ex.
	Oh my god.
	No, I'm not hung up on my ex.
	You want a guy who's going on a first date with you.
	Let's say you go on a first date with a guy this Friday.
	I don't have to take a bullet, literally.
	You just hung out with your ex today.
	You want that guy to take a bullet for you while on the date.
	Hold on.
	Just to be clear, also, while on the date with this new guy, there's a hundred percent chance you're thinking about your ex.
	No, that's not how it goes.
	I guarantee if you're on a date, if you go on the date tomorrow, you're thinking about you're caught up on your ex.
	Get robbed at gunpoint for them on a date with you.
	Like, hold up, bro.
	Before you steal her money, let me call her ex real quick so he can come and intervene in this situation.
	Ow, I don't know her.
	I just met her.
	I mean, like what she said, except different.
	If he were to tell me he loves me, at whatever point that is, then like, yeah, you're going to take a bullet from me.
	Okay.
	If that takes him three months to fall in love with me or six months or a year, whenever he claims.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	No, bro.
	If we are on a first date and someone comes with a gun and you hide behind me or we're shut out, whatever.
	And if I have to take the bullet for you, it's a cringe.
	And say we both survived.
	I'm never going out with you ever again.
	It's not happening.
	I agree with that.
	That's a good way to frame it.
	Going around the table with all your girls agree.
	Neither of you die, but it's just like you as the girl took the bullet.
	Yeah, if you shrieked like a girl and shot like Randy, let me just add, I've actually been in this situation before.
	Yeah, I've been in this situation before with my first love.
	I was in Atlanta.
	We were coming out of the grocery store, and a guy said something to her.
	He was basically trying to talk to her in front of me, and then he winked at me.
	Things got escalated, and he pulled out a gun.
	Yeah, but I was prepared.
	I said, you're going to shoot me?
	Like, you're going to shoot me?
	It's whatever.
	But my girl, I told her to get in a car, be cool.
	Her sister actually came, though.
	Her sister actually came and got in front of him and was like, no, we're not doing this here.
	And then we had some other guys who wanted to check on us, just random guys we didn't know.
	He was like, y'all good, y'all good.
	He had a gun as well.
	I didn't have my gun at the time.
	I couldn't carry in the state of Georgia.
	So, yeah, but I've actually been in that situation.
	And I mean, I wasn't overwhelmed with fear.
	I just wanted to make sure that my girlfriend was straight.
	You know what I mean?
	And that's where, like, did you say it was like a first date?
	No, no, no.
	No, she was my first love.
	Yeah, we had been in a relationship for two years.
	So, yeah.
	And your instinct was to send her to safety.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You stood there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So here's where the whole panel turns against me.
	Yeah, I don't think actually at any point ever in the relationship you take the bullet for your woman ever.
	Ever.
	You have kids, you never take the bullet for her.
	So what do you do?
	What do you mean, girlfriend?
	I haven't really fully developed the precise circumstances of the hypothetical, but just in a hypothetical where one of you has to die, I don't know if it's a, you know, it could be a violent other person.
	It could be a train.
	It could be an environmental disaster, zombies.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what it is.
	I always think, you know, it's better if the guys you survive.
	What is wrong with you?
	I guess, Tyr.
	I heard it as you would push your kids in front of that guy.
	I was like, wait a moment.
	Not a protector, ladies and gentlemen.
	Well, I don't think you've been in love yet.
	No, I've been in love.
	And even when you were in love, you didn't feel like taking a bullet for a girl?
	Oh, I mean, I'd obviously be protective of a girl, but again, this is such a hypothetical, specific scenario.
	In some scenario where I have time to perhaps do the calculus of, okay, well, if I attempt to intervene, I'm going to die.
	She survives.
	Yeah, she could die.
	So you value your life.
	That's crazy then.
	It's a level of your valuing your life more than hers, and then you have a level of selfishness.
	The only people I could potentially see myself sacrificing my life for would be my children.
	And I'm pretty confident, like, I'd probably do some crazy shit if anything was going down with my parents.
	Like a violence scenario or something, I would protect my parents.
	So why wouldn't you?
	Why the difference?
	Huh?
	Why the difference?
	Yeah.
	Would you tell your girlfriend?
	Would you tell your girlfriend that?
	Like, if you had a girlfriend right now, would you tell her, like, I'm not, I'm not, I would not take a bullet for you.
	Would she do it for me?
	No.
	Would you tell her to her face that she's not taking a bullet for her?
	I'll tell her right to her face.
	Just.
	That's crazy.
	Why is that crazy?
	It's just not masculine.
	How is it not masculine?
	It's like the least masculine thing.
	Yeah, you're not being a detector.
	You're not being a gladiator.
	I'm not going to determine what is masculine.
	That's fine, but we get to determine what's an ick, and that's an ick.
	I wonder if you're the type that would be possessed, like in a sense.
	When I asked you a question, you would take a bullet, Brian.
	Like, you don't think you would do it now, but then all of a sudden it would happen.
	You're like, fuck this shit.
	And then you'd go and like do it.
	And it's like, whoa.
	I could just.
	Yeah, you've never been in that situation, so you don't know.
	It's so crazy of you.
	What if she's pregnant?
	But that's not how you would feel with the right woman.
	So you don't feel like you're not.
	I feel like if another man trying to do it.
	If she died, I would be distraught.
	It's not like I'm a heartless guy.
	She asked me my question.
	She said, what if she's pregnant?
	Oh, I asked him that Sunday.
	I said, what if she was like, okay.
	She ran.
	With your child.
	That's two deaths.
	I'll tell you what.
	That's a terrible scenario.
	He wouldn't do it because it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter because he can get another girl pregnant, right?
	Yes, I could get.
	Monster.
	Monster.
	How's that?
	I fail to see how that's monstrous.
	What do you mean?
	Like, men are the ones on the front lines.
	That's their DRA.
	Hold on.
	But okay, so let me ask you all a question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let's talk about the trolley dilemma.
	So are you guys familiar with the trolley problem, trolley dilemma?
	Okay, there's a train track.
	It diverges.
	There's a lever.
	If you pull the lever, you'll diverge it to the other train track.
	Would you, so you have, there's five people who are tied on the train track.
	You do nothing.
	The train just proceeds and kills the five people.
	On the other track, if you pull the lever, it'll divert it and it will it'll it'll kill your brother.
	Which one do you pick?
	Do you pull the lever?
	That's a horrible.
	You pull the lever?
	I wouldn't answer.
	I wouldn't answer.
	You have to answer.
	Yeah, you have to.
	It's a real second thing.
	I would definitely save my brother.
	Yeah, my brother.
	So you'd kill five people.
	Yep.
	You're a monster then.
	So not a monster.
	My monster, either way.
	I have a thought.
	You're my thought either way.
	Okay, so let's just put it.
	So here's the trolley dilemma.
	I'm on the train track.
	There's a lever next to me.
	I can do nothing, and then the train just runs me over.
	Or on the train track, is my pregnant girl?
	I would run myself off.
	Sorry, I'm pulling the fucking lever.
	Okay, but I'm sorry.
	So what would you actually do?
	I need to know.
	What would you actually do?
	Call me a fucking monster.
	Would you just run?
	Yes.
	I would preserve my life.
	So what if you're thinking you can run away from the power?
	At least I'm honest about it.
	Everybody, most people, when asked this question, are going to virtue signal, no, of course.
	I would genuinely not pull any lover and just let it hit me.
	But not making a choice isn't making a choice.
	I think if a boyfriend or husband was to choose me over the kids, if he chose me, I'd be like, you selfish son of a bitch.
	And I wouldn't even like date him because I'd be like, you should have chose the kids.
	I should have fallen off the cliff.
	Like, I can see that.
	Because a mother should want her kids to survive.
	This should be on your bubble profile.
	Yeah.
	They will not take boy for you.
	Look, obviously, here's the reality, right?
	You have to be forced to get away from that.
	We're talking about chivalry, right?
	We're talking about chivalry, right?
	That's the ultimate form of chivalry, the ultimate form of masculinity, the ultimate form of being a traditional man, all that shit.
	Self-sacrifice.
	Are you, are modern women deserving of the ultimate chivalry, the ultimate sacrifice on the men's part, laying down his life?
	Y'all are modern women, and you want a man to fucking die for you, but you complain about cooking for him, doing the laundry, doing all this shit.
	I love doing all this.
	Bro, you want a man to lay down his life for you, and all y'all are.
	I'm not sure if you're a man.
	You're generalizing that.
	I love the cleaning.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Go off, Kate.
	Bro, hold up.
	Hold up.
	He's traumatized.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not traumatized.
	Someone broke his heart.
	Check this shit out.
	I'm not saying you guys in general.
	I'm saying, I would argue the vast majority of women are not these shit.
	Okay, look, chivalry, right?
	You're a gentleman.
	Are ladies the ones who are entitled to gentlemanly treatment?
	Wait, Brian, but that's why...
	No, no, no, no.
	Answer the question.
	Who's entitled to chivalry and gentlemanly treatment?
	Ladies, correct?
	Are modern women with their OnlyFans and their promiscuity and their lack of modesty and their sex work and their 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 plus body counts deserving of a man to lay down his life for you?
	That depends on how he feels about it.
	That depends on his heart and how he feels about it.
	Ask the damn bear to take a bullet.
	Yes, dude.
	Stochastic decay.
	I'll remember everyone's answers.
	These girls would rather be in a forest with a bear than with a man.
	We're not talking about a random man.
	You want a man to lay down his life for you, but you guys have those of you who said the bear.
	You guys have dog shit views.
	You guys have a terrible view.
	You guys have terrible views on.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on.
	Terrible fucking views on.
	Okay.
	You guys have contempt for men.
	Let me talk.
	You guys have contempt for men.
	You guys hate men.
	You guys are misandrists.
	These modern women.
	Hold on.
	Let me talk.
	These modern women are misandrists.
	They'd rather be with a bear in the forest than a man, but they want their boyfriend to lay down their lives for them.
	That's some crazy shit.
	You didn't say a bear.
	You're going to hurt Ryan last year.
	That's why you need to find a girl that he dating her.
	This girl right here.
	This girl right here.
	Hold on, hold on.
	You wouldn't be dating a woman like that anyway.
	I go on a first date with this girl.
	She just fucked her boy, her ex-boyfriend last night.
	She wants me to take a bullet.
	She fucked another guy.
	Look at you insane.
	She fucked another guy the night before.
	You want me to take a fucking bullet?
	Absolutely.
	No, Absolutely not.
	In that scenario, they fucked a guy the night before.
	They want a guy to take a bullet.
	Let it out.
	Let it be fucking.
	Let it out, Jake.
	Let it out, Katie.
	We ain't doing that shit.
	Nobody said that.
	Oh my God.
	Tuesday champagne.
	We need some more champagne.
	No more champagne for you.
	You're generalizing.
	Oh my God, bro.
	First of all, you wouldn't even be dating a woman like that.
	So what are you talking about?
	That's not your type.
	Fucking fucking.
	Oh my God.
	Get him some water.
	Pass out.
	Calm down with an Ivy.
	I had three champagne boys.
	You're sacrificing our girlfriend's.
	Wait, wait, you're kind of generalizing women to be like all women are doing OnlyFans.
	All women are like degrading themselves.
	But that's not true.
	That's why you should date a woman that shares the same values as you.
	That way you would want to take away from that.
	That way you want to take a bullet.
	Oh, bro.
	You pill.
	I know you have something to say to him.
	Come on.
	Bro, let me just triple down.
	Come on.
	Could be a virgin, never had a first kiss.
	I am securing my dynasty son, my lineage.
	Okay, his dynasty.
	Great, she's a virgin.
	I love that.
	That's fantastic.
	I'll just find another one.
	I'll find another one.
	Oh my gosh.
	No, the connection.
	You're not cheating in love, but that's how you feel.
	I'm in the chat.
	I'm in the chat.
	I'm a guy in the chat.
	Brian's such a beta male.
	Of course, I would take a bullet for a girl who I've been dating for three months.
	Go ahead, dude.
	Why are you doing the robot?
	I'm just gonna.
	I don't know, bro.
	I'm fucking drunk.
	Three sips, y'all.
	He's good.
	Yo.
	Three sips, Brian.
	Call me a beta male.
	I think it would be showing his two colors.
	I'm not an alpha.
	I'm gonna call myself an alpha male.
	It would be the most fucking gangster alpha male sigma male shit.
	Sigma grind set.
	Please do not call your unprotected sigma grind set.
	Yeah, man.
	No, man.
	I'm a bullet.
	She can take the bullet.
	I'm gonna find another girl.
	I'm gonna have seven sons.
	I am gonna have seven sons and they will conquer.
	What's that freaking, you know, on the toma?
	Children.
	What's that Bible verse?
	Children in a man's youth are like arrows in the quiver of a oh my god.
	I totally fucking butchered this.
	Of a warrior.
	Bows and yeah.
	Okay.
	So anyways.
	Seven sons, bro.
	Oh, oh, I'm so, I'm so masculine.
	Let me just end my life for this chick.
	Your girlfriend.
	You're a wife.
	Or mother of your children.
	She's a random chick.
	Mother of your children, this chick?
	Yeah, because, oh, let me double down.
	Let me double down.
	Yeah.
	You're literally pulling blocks.
	I have three.
	She gave me three kids.
	And you just let me know.
	I love her so much.
	And you just ran away like a little baby.
	And you're thumbs.
	People think negatively about me all night.
	And they should feel just negative on yourself.
	People think poorly.
	We are very sorry you don't have like something.
	Like, hey, guys.
	You should try to save both of your lives.
	I think if I have kids, hold on.
	Let me say this.
	I think if I have kids, I can make a better argument for me surviving.
	I'm more capable of protecting them.
	I think it's not about the fact that you're not going to be able to do her through your unchildable protection.
	It's about the fact that if she were to die, you love her so much, you cannot see your life without her.
	And your life would be nothing.
	That is everything.
	How are you going to protect your kid?
	You couldn't even protect your girl.
	You don't believe it.
	Oh, I could never end up again.
	I think that is no lie with honor.
	I don't get out of here with that Disney shit.
	I'm fucking, I'll grieve.
	There will be a grieving period.
	It'll be a fortnight.
	We won't even go to the house.
	I'll grieve.
	I feel like I got things to do.
	I'll find a new wife.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to grieve a fortnight.
	14 days.
	I'll grieve.
	Schedules.
	Back on Tinder.
	Schedule.
	No.
	Here, I'm just my girlfriend over there.
	I really think you just haven't made such a deep.
	I'm joking about that, but I'm just being a little facetious.
	I don't think you've made a deep connection enough where you would have been.
	Oh, I've made some deep connections.
	Balls deep.
	Highly doubt that.
	Highly doubtful.
	Balls deep.
	What's up?
	That's not saying much, though, because I'm like average down there.
	What if you weren't there to save her in a sense where it happened to her, but you weren't?
	Keep talking, Brian.
	Like, would that bother you for the rest of your life?
	Like, oh my goodness.
	Like, I just wasn't there.
	If I was there, this wouldn't have happened.
	Because I know a guy that that happened to, and that's all he says these days.
	But yeah, I would think about it because of my normal person.
	Aren't you biologically made to withstand more?
	Bullet?
	Yeah, like aren't you strong?
	Aren't you stronger?
	I am.
	Obviously, we're speaking in hypothetical.
	Bullets rip through flesh.
	It doesn't matter if you got a pussy or a dick.
	That shit going through you.
	It's going through.
	It going through.
	But there's just so much more respect if you do.
	I don't think he cares about respect.
	Respect.
	Yeah, I mean, his choice at the end.
	He's going on Tinder in a Fortnite.
	I mean, exactly.
	Some of you guys have, like, no preservation.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm going to go out in a blaze of glory, respect.
	Bro, okay.
	I'm not laying down my life for respect.
	Why?
	Maybe it was respect for like 100 years beyond.
	Don't you rather die streak or something?
	Okay, look, here's an argument.
	Here's an argument I've heard, right?
	Okay, sure, I could die, but think of all the other great deeds I could go on and do.
	If I go on and live another 50 years, what can I do for my kids if I have them?
	What could I do for a future partner?
	Who knows?
	Sounds like you won't do those either because you're only thinking about yourself.
	Yeah, it sounds like you'd like to do that.
	What if I'm a firefighter?
	I'm a firefighter.
	And I would have saved, I would have gone on to save 100 other people had I not died.
	That's you valuing your own life more than your partner.
	I love this conversation because there's no girl who's going to agree with me on this shit.
	I found the fucking magic.
	I found a guy that's agreed on the body.
	I found the magic bullet for the whatever podcast.
	I can argue with anybody on the show.
	It doesn't matter if they're conservative or liberal or modern.
	Your argument is that you don't care.
	Feminist, traditional, all the, what?
	Your argument is that you don't care.
	Yeah, like you have the woman spoke about enough of that.
	It's not like I'm a monster.
	I obviously care deeply if I'm dating someone.
	I bet you in Fortnite and then be on Tinder the next week.
	I was being, that was a joke.
	I'm fucking siphoning.
	Three sips.
	Three sip, Brian.
	What's that, Nick?
	What's going on?
	What's going on back there, Nick?
	You want Twitter?
	Wait, what's going on back there, Nick?
	That's how long it's going to be.
	It's asking how long it's made.
	Oh, I saw a bit of an eye roll, so.
	Was there attitude with that, Nick?
	You can talk to me.
	Just talk to me frankly.
	Oh, what was the feeling on that?
	I mean, she just didn't want to be here for another two hours.
	That's what I got from it.
	I didn't say that.
	What did you say?
	Why don't you?
	How long does this usually go on for?
	And he said, probably another two hours.
	And I went, she is the only one who hasn't had a drink.
	And I just went off to just like have a minute.
	So sometimes it's not.
	It's just fine if you're not drinking and other people are drinking.
	So I'm asking a question.
	Okay.
	I feel you.
	I didn't drink for a while either.
	Yeah.
	Now I'm done.
	I know what you mean.
	Let's just keep having fun.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We were having fun.
	Moving on.
	Having a good time.
	Ryan would shove us in front of a bullet.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Check this out.
	Trolley dilemma.
	Trolley dilemma.
	I'm on a train track and it's all of you on the other track.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, I'm pulling the lever.
	That's not helping here.
	She's go, and you're like, yeah, I'm going to put y'all on the tracks.
	This is funny, bro.
	How you guys, you guys can't be upset at this shit.
	I'm chilling.
	No, I'm good.
	I've never been in love.
	I'd let the train run.
	I know you're more entertaining than anything.
	Were you afraid of me?
	Hold on.
	Let me ask y'all a question, right?
	So I just said, trolley dilemma.
	I'm on the track, and then it's all of you on the other track.
	If I pull the lever, it means all y'all got to go.
	For one.
	I get to survive.
	If just replace, you know, the situation.
	I'm betting that most of you would save yourself.
	Who are you?
	I want another body.
	All of you would save yourself if it was all of us on the panel that you had to sacrifice, right?
	Not me.
	I'm from a military.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Answer the question.
	Who are you to me?
	And what is the number?
	It's all of us on the panel.
	So you save yourself or everybody on the panel has to die.
	Which do you pick?
	I think.
	Into the mic.
	Tilted death.
	I would have to choose everybody else because they would have a greater impact on the world.
	And then I know that it would, if you want to get into a morality standpoint, I do believe that there is some kind of repercussions for a selfish act like that.
	So bad karma, call it what you want.
	Yeah, I'm going to agree.
	You'd sacrifice yourself for the greater God, yeah.
	For these total strangers.
	Okay.
	I'm saving myself.
	I'm sorry.
	I appreciate your honesty.
	Thank you.
	Into the mic.
	I'm doing the same.
	I would do everybody else and then I would die a hero.
	I would keep everybody else and then delete me.
	And then I would be a hero.
	And I'd be remembered.
	You certainly would be remembered.
	Yeah.
	I would sacrifice myself.
	Wow.
	Total strangers.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	But also, I believe in eternal life, so I don't think that, you know, I just can badly be over.
	God would get me.
	I kind of think there's some virtue signaling going on.
	I think secretly most people would preserve themselves.
	They don't want to admit it.
	But I do think that there's people who aren't.
	You can disagree with me, but you can't fault me for being honest.
	We do have a chat here from LPE.
	Brian, I said Doll Hairs, LOL, and specifically ask for ID, not the fake passport bro.
	L for Gerald, be supporting Capper.
	Shout out to Josie, who's really 28 and not like that capping chair too.
	Who's Josie?
	Josie.
	Josie?
	Who's Josie?
	And the pussy guy?
	No, for real.
	Josie Ann, like the, oh, okay.
	Where'd he even get a fake passport?
	Josie's also capping.
	Yeah, we'll turn to that.
	Okay, we have Ben George.
	Do you want to read it?
	Women expect a man to take a bullet for them.
	Women can't admit they want a man to take a bullet for them because other women will demonize them.
	We're going to get you a Kindle deal.
	Your voice is so soothing.
	Kindle deal.
	Yep.
	Thank you, Ben George, for that chat, man.
	Definitely appreciate it.
	For Shizzle?
	For Shizzle, my nizzle?
	Not quite yet.
	I want to linger here a little longer.
	So is it the ultimate form of chivalry for a man to sacrifice his life for a woman?
	Yes.
	No.
	If the woman didn't want that done, like example, like for the kids, like, hey, like, if I die, I want you to take, you know, do the kids, then I would say no.
	That wouldn't be the ultimate form.
	It would be, yeah.
	Well, what would be a greater sacrifice than giving your life for somebody?
	Then to listen to their will and be like, hey, well, get rid of me and you can take the kids because I know that I'm not going to make it that long.
	So I think that would be greater because you're listening to them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think it's the, I mean, self-sacrifice is the ultimate thing.
	Like, I don't want to get too far off, but one of my favorite movies is This is the End.
	And at the end, they realize what they have to do in order to be saved because the world is going to hell.
	And what they all they have to do is essentially sacrifice themselves.
	And then they get sucked up into heaven where the Backstreet Boys are.
	So that's if you've never seen it, you don't get it.
	But I'm sure plenty of people in chat have.
	But literally, like classic, everybody knows that that is the ultimate form of like, that is the most noble thing you can do is self-sacrifice.
	So I think it is the greatest, most chivalrous thing.
	That's why, you know.
	Don't you think that chivalry is dead?
	No?
	Perfect example.
	I mean, look, it occurs to me that women have this expectation that men lay down their lives for them, that you've only been dating for a year.
	No, we said one day.
	Oh, okay, fine.
	Even worse, I guess.
	Yeah, you two, what?
	Said the same day.
	Yeah.
	So that is chivalrous treatment.
	That's traditional treatment.
	That's masculine treatment.
	That's men adhering to their traditional gender roles.
	The ultimate manifestation of a man's traditional gender role would be the ultimate manifestation of protection would be to lay down your life for somebody else.
	The ultimate manifestation of, I would argue, a woman's traditional gender roles would be sexual purity, remaining a virgin.
	Most women aren't remaining virgins.
	I think that's a trade-off.
	That should be the trade-off.
	Bare minimum.
	$200.
	Brian, the bloodline must fool you.
	Until a man has strong sons, he must ensure his survival at all costs.
	Sorry, ladies.
	Chivalry works against you here.
	Like, let me make this argument for people who think it's not masculine or not beta.
	Here's the framing, right?
	Let's say you've never had children and you're an only son.
	You're the last of your bloodline, right?
	What would be the most masculine, if you want to use the term alpha, would it be dying for a woman who's going to go ahead and you don't have children, remember?
	You're the last of your bloodline.
	She's going to go procreate with another man.
	She's going to forget you within three years, whatever, however long.
	Or would it be more masculine and more alpha to secure your bloodline and go on and survive and have the other person take the bullet?
	That way you can go on and have seven sons.
	What is better for your bloodline?
	Answer the question.
	It seems like your priorities aren't straight.
	I think anyone.
	Why should I pedestalize the woman's bloodline over mine?
	Because you love them in this hypothetical situation.
	It's all about what you value.
	And if you value your bloodline over the love of the love of your life, then that's that.
	We know where your values stand.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me, let me, let me let's let's change the frame.
	Let's change it.
	No, I don't want to necessarily talk about what Brian said.
	I just want to change the frame.
	Ladies, and I don't wish this on anyone, but this is just hypothetical.
	If you're pregnant and it's save you or the baby, If you saved me, I'd be like, you're your children.
	But they can always make more babies with you.
	But that's my baby.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty sacrificial on a women's behalf.
	Yeah.
	If I sacrifice, they can too, right?
	Yeah.
	We would do it in a heartbeat.
	What do you say to that, Brian?
	Yeah, if women, if women, they're pregnant and it's like there's a little thing.
	Yeah, and they save them or the baby.
	They all say save the baby.
	Brian's definitely saving the baby.
	What do I think of their answers?
	Yeah, what do you think of their answers?
	Well, it's a bit different when it's your kid.
	Oh, my God.
	That doesn't inspire you.
	It doesn't inspire you.
	That doesn't inspire you.
	Oh, yeah, I would be more inclined to risk my life for my child.
	Okay.
	But I'm saying, like, women have a sacrificial love as well.
	But, like, let's also be realistic here.
	Who here is pro-choice?
	Going around the table?
	I'm pro-choice.
	Interesting.
	You're pro-choice?
	Pro-life.
	I'm undecided.
	That's helpful.
	I'm pro-choice, but I have one amendment to it.
	But if they want to get into it, I can say the amendment.
	In the case of an essay.
	Well, so I think that I'm pro-choice, but why don't we get into it?
	Okay, yeah, I would just say pro-choice.
	There's little details.
	I'm pro-life.
	Pro-life.
	Okay.
	Well, it seems to me that I don't know what the breakdown is on women who are pro-choice versus pro-life.
	A lot of women aren't protecting their kids.
	Sorry, ladies.
	It would be my choice, though, to protect you.
	I tried to hate you.
	I tried to hate.
	I feel like you're waiting for that one.
	Can I ask a question about the bloodline thing?
	So let's say that you have five brothers.
	Your bloodline is going to continue through either brothers or you.
	And let's say that the woman that you're with, she's an only child and she doesn't have any siblings.
	Would you rather save your bloodline, which most likely is going to continue anyway, or save hers?
	I'm still saving my life.
	Okay, it's not about the bloodline.
	No, not even about the bloodline.
	I think it's just like, I'm sorry.
	You do realize when you're making the argument, there can be multiple reasons for why you want to.
	Okay, what are the other ones?
	Yes, I'll say that.
	Living's cool.
	I like to live.
	I'd like to continue living.
	The bloodline thing, death sucks.
	There's probably going to be pain involved.
	Weak.
	Yeah, what are the other things?
	Why is that weak?
	Because there's no nobility in that and honor.
	If I don't want to die, she can die.
	She cares about honor.
	Bro, there's no nobility in honor.
	Y'all are.
	Yes, there is.
	Where did the ladies go?
	Hold on.
	Y'all want to go.
	Gentlemen, where did the ladies go?
	Where did the ladies go?
	Answer the question.
	Are you going to marry me?
	Wait, let me ask you this.
	Do you not think it's honorable for men who have sacrificed their lives for our country?
	What?
	Men.
	You're talking about sacrificed their life for our country.
	Is that honorable?
	Yes or no?
	It's a very simple question.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes, that's heroic.
	And it's sacrifice, isn't it?
	Yes, it's a sacrifice.
	That doesn't mean that I necessarily want to.
	To be honorable?
	No.
	Well, hold on.
	If being honorable means I need to lay down my life for a woman that I'm on a first date with.
	Just as you said, there's multiple definitions.
	That's one form of honor.
	But you said you wouldn't do it even if you were like in love with her.
	Pregnant.
	Yeah.
	But okay, I'm failing to see this like soldier component.
	But there's certainly honor in dying for someone greater good.
	I don't disagree that it would be like this honorable thing to do that.
	It would be heroic.
	But you're just saying like fucking.
	No, no, no, hold on.
	Just to be clear, something can be heroic, and I could also desire to not do the heroic thing.
	Yes.
	Okay, that's fair.
	If it puts my life at risk, then yes.
	Okay.
	Again, people can feel how they want to feel.
	Of course, you as women are going to feel a certain type of way about that because you have this very gendered expectation for men to sacrifice their lives because, frankly, you view men as disposable.
	Men, not just by women, but by society at large, are viewed as the disposable sex.
	That's why we send men to war so they die.
	These poor 18-year-old boys go to some.
	Look, perhaps there are some wars that were for righteous causes.
	Most wars, fucking monarchs are butthurt over some fucking princess or some bullshit.
	Fucking Vietnam, no fucking reason.
	Iraq, no fucking reason.
	Afghanistan, no fucking reason.
	We got hundreds of thousands of men.
	PTSD, fucking maimed, dead, injuries, all this shit.
	For what?
	For the military-industrial complex?
	So that rich people can get richer?
	Is that heroic?
	Maybe it's heroic on the micro level, on the macro level.
	Why the fuck are we in Vietnam?
	Do you think we were America was under threat by the Vietnamese?
	Were they protecting their country?
	Was America, who had just back-to-back World War champs?
	We were scared of Vietnam?
	Which gender sent them to war?
	Were they sacrificing?
	Were they protecting their country?
	They made a sacrifice.
	They're heroic.
	Most of these guys got fucking drafted in Vietnam.
	Cannon fodder.
	I feel like if the person had a family, are you considered the man in the house?
	And just to be clear, I have absolutely these men who died in these fucking.
	Yo, Slayer, thank you for the 20 gifted subs.
	I absolutely have compassion.
	These men who were sent to these meaningless wars.
	It's fucking terrible.
	Definitely.
	I think if someone died, I put the blame on these fucking people that stood to make money from these wars.
	That's why we were in these conflicts.
	I want to get back to Calibur and all that bullshit.
	So I want to just get back to what you were saying about women put this gender thing on men that they have to sacrifice their love.
	But here's the thing though.
	Like, even though we have certain qualities about men and women that are different, we kind of just have to take the good with the bad.
	Like women, we have to bear children.
	We have to go through that pain, right?
	Men, if you have a family, you have a wife, you have kids, you're considered the man of the house.
	Somebody breaks into your house, you're going to be the one to protect your family, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll dispatch them with a firearm.
	But we're talking about hypothetical scenarios here.
	I understand that's hypothetical, but like I'm saying, like, wouldn't you take that role as a man?
	Let me ask you a question.
	So if man, I would think, I think the ultimate sacrifice, the ultimate thing you can ask of a man is to sacrifice his life for his girlfriend, wife, whatever.
	Why don't we have a corresponding demand and expectation for women to be virgins?
	What's going on there?
	Do you object?
	I don't think that.
	Do you object to that being the standard?
	Because I'll tell you this much.
	It's way easier to just be a virgin than it is to die.
	Which do you think is like the bigger ask?
	To remain a virgin or to die?
	Which one?
	Correlation.
	Which is the bigger ask?
	To be a virgin?
	We're asking you to die.
	We're asking you to get the risk of dying.
	No, no, no, no.
	Answer the question.
	What is a bigger ask for a woman to remain a virgin or for a man to lay down his life and die?
	Answer the question.
	I would say the bigger ask is for the man to lay down his life.
	Do you guys agree?
	I agree.
	I think that though, like example, let's say if a guy took a bullet for me somewhere and on his dying breath, he's like, dang, I really didn't want to do that.
	But I just thought that society told me I would think about that for the rest of my life and be like, damn, he really shouldn't have.
	You know?
	He really shouldn't have.
	Right.
	You know, because he didn't want to do it.
	He was pressured into it by society.
	So I would want to, if he did it, but he's saying you have to want to do it.
	If he did out of free will, okay.
	But if he didn't, then I wouldn't want it.
	But you're talking about virtue.
	You're saying there's no virtuous women who are worth dying for.
	But we gave you the hypothetical.
	Say that the woman you were with was virtuous, which diaper, and you still said no.
	Right.
	Oh, and just to throw that out there, my girlfriend that I almost took a bullet for, she was a virgin.
	I took her virginity.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Good for you.
	Good for you.
	Oh, my God.
	Congrats.
	Congrats.
	Look, I'm not saying, look, again, just to be clear, there are plenty of virtuous women out there, even women who aren't virgins.
	That's not what I'm arguing.
	I'm just saying that I think Anne Rand wrote a book called The Virtue of Selfishness.
	And yeah.
	What did it say?
	That being selfish, that being selfish is a virtue.
	Self-preservation.
	No, being selfish is a virtue.
	The virtue of preserving.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean.
	He ain't dying.
	But not in the same way.
	I mean, it is what it is.
	It's true that women have the privilege in society because they have a finite number of eggs and a finite number of years that they can get pregnant and have kids.
	Men can just go sleep around, get as many women pregnant as they want, and there's a long, you know, gestational period.
	And then also because women are the weaker gender, men have to protect them.
	So because they are both desired and weaker compared to men, they need to be protected by society.
	So yeah, there's a big social safety net, and women are cherished and everything.
	But that doesn't mean that you should just like, I don't know, hate on them or something.
	I get that women should be.
	Wait, is it hating on women to not want to die for a woman?
	Well, you're saying, oh, they're all.
	No, just like hitting on our opinion of why men should do that.
	I mean, you have a different viewpoint.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, you bring up like the worst-case scenario.
	What's the worst case scenario?
	Brian, yes, women have special privileges.
	Yes, Brian, women have greater privileges than men, and it sucks for men.
	That's literally what I said.
	Sucks.
	Fuck.
	You're getting away from it.
	In their defense, like, you know, there is a tendency in our culture today to hate on men and to talk trash about men.
	And women could recognize that we have these privileges.
	We are cherished by society, and we should be grateful and we should stop ragging on men.
	And I do wonder if a lot of what you're feeling is actually just a reaction to that sentiment of, you know, men bashing and everything.
	If you actually mean it, or if it's just like, you know, you're kind of sick of being aware of that.
	And also you're saying it in today's society.
	Who knows what your opinion would be, you know, if you were not in today's society, like back in the day.
	Yeah.
	Sure, society should absolutely be the case.
	That could be skewing your opinion in one direction.
	Oh, I'd be sure.
	But the answer isn't to like stop being chivalrous and taking on the masculine role of a protector.
	It's, you know, maybe I don't know what you can do, but I do agree that we should stop shitting on men and women should be more grateful for men in the role that they play.
	I agree.
	Well.
	Anyways.
	I still think.
	Yeah, you have your views.
	You're not going to convince me.
	That's fine.
	I think we're done trying to convince you.
	I will never hear you when you're on a dream.
	You're fine.
	Do you guys feel a little defeated?
	No, no, no.
	Because the point is that you're not going to be able to do that.
	Because literally nobody agrees with you, so that's fine.
	Is that serious?
	Literally, nobody.
	It's all based off feeling for you.
	Yeah.
	Based off of feeling?
	Yeah.
	It's like your preference.
	What do you mean?
	That's what you're going to do.
	That's your argument.
	Yeah.
	My argument?
	Okay, it's wrong, but you know.
	How is it wrong for a man to not want to die for a woman?
	Explain it to me.
	Give me a second.
	It's weak.
	It's morally unacceptable.
	Here's the process here.
	By the way, we lowered the TTS to 69.
	Grid one motorsports donated to Android.
	These kabimbo granny sits and smiles while saying it sucks for men, but I bet she is a feminist who expects her views to be enforced by men.
	Women rarely, if ever, value men as much as men value women.
	Nightman.
	Yo, grid one, thank you for tuning into the stream, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Bimbo Granny.
	They call me Bimbo because I wear floral dresses and I have big glasses.
	I'm not big boobs, so it's like granny style, but bimbo.
	Are you a feminist?
	I don't.
	I don't think so.
	I'm not like, oh my God, whoop-de-woo, you won't find me at rallies.
	You won't find me posting on social media.
	You won't find me partaking in that.
	So I don't believe that I am a feminist.
	Let me just ask.
	Hold on. I'll come back.
	Nickelodeon donated $69.
	If some of these women would call chivalry dead, I couldn't come up with a word for femininity.
	W. Brian.
	Nios got a world to save.
	You want to make it to the next movie?
	Learn to dodge bullets.
	Think you're talking about the Matrix, Neo?
	Have you talked about it?
	Really?
	Okay, I have another question.
	Nobody was saying Brian has to die.
	We're saying he takes the risk of dying.
	I got another question.
	You gotta assume we're still doing that.
	This one is more open-ended.
	I just want to promote some discussion.
	What would you ladies say, or what do you feel that men should do that they don't do in the context of dating or that they don't do enough of that you wish they did more of starting starting here?
	Communicate your feelings.
	Tell me exactly what you're thinking and how you feel.
	That's okay.
	Your feelings should be heard and you're going to create more issues.
	You're going to build up that resentment if you don't communicate.
	That's what do you say to the guys who say that when they communicate feelings, especially, I guess, in the way that you perceive them to communicate, that would be more like when women talk about men communicating feelings, we normally communicate through anger.
	So do you mean like in a more feminine way?
	Like being more vulnerable?
	Communicating your feelings is not feminine.
	It's a level of vulnerability and you have to take out that scaredness and it's a level of trust that goes into it.
	So you have to have a, what's called like, you have to have a safe partner who's not going to use that against you, your vulnerability.
	So yeah, I mean, like, it's up to you to do, like, have discretion on who you're going to be vulnerable with, but it's okay to be a little vulnerable.
	Obviously, you want to have a safeguard so that you can protect yourself, but communicate.
	And anger and aggression should not be, I shouldn't have to be like, oh, wow, he's upset about that because he's, you know, like that, that anger's coming out.
	It should, if you're upset, tell me why you're upset and tell me so that I can make sure that doesn't happen again or do whatever's in my power to, you know, end that.
	Do you think it's acceptable for a man to cry in front of you?
	In private.
	In front of you?
	In front of me?
	Yeah.
	Like, would you believe you would be less acceptable?
	If he's crying all of the time, then we're going to have to be like, hey, are you okay?
	Like, what else is underlying to where you're crying all the time?
	Like, you may have some kind of like issues that we need to sort through or like trauma.
	And that's where, like, that care and concern and that judgment, you take the judgment out of it when that man is crying and you don't judge him for crying.
	You get to the root cause of those tears.
	And then if you love him, you will help him navigate that.
	And if you don't want to and you want to judge him for crying, then maybe you're not for him and he's not for you.
	Or maybe he has some issues and he doesn't want to deal with it.
	It's all like circumstantial, but those are my beliefs on men crying.
	If it's in private and it's not a habitual thing, then it's okay for a man to cry.
	Yeah, that's a good answer.
	That was a good answer.
	You're very deep.
	Yeah, that was phenomenal.
	That was phenomenal.
	What about you?
	Sorry, that took me a minute.
	Probably listening with not always trying to fix the situation.
	So if I come and I'm just complaining or talking about something, not trying to constantly make amends or try to fix it, but just like listen and hear me.
	Sometimes you're just trying to complain and just give advice when they want to go.
	I get that.
	And I completely understand that.
	And one of the most interesting things about that, a lot of women say that.
	They don't understand why a man always wants the problem solved.
	But the interesting thing about that is actually, you know, the women, the reason women are more sympathetic and compassionate is because there's two emotional centers of the brain.
	And with women, it tends to be the mirror neuron system.
	That's you see me cry, you want to cry, you see me going through angst, you feel angst, anxiety, et cetera, et cetera.
	And men, when it comes down to the way we perceive emotion, that mirror neuron system turns on just for a split second.
	We understand why you feel the way that you do, but then we immediately, another part of the brain is activated that wants to solve problems.
	And it's really difficult for us to turn it off.
	So a lot of times when I hear women say that, I just want them to understand that we literally, that's how we solve the problem.
	Like that's how we interpret your emotion.
	We want to fix whatever we perceive to be the problem immediately as soon as possible.
	Even if you know you just want to rant, we think it's a big deal because you're already complaining about it to begin with.
	And a lot of times we want peace as well.
	So we just want to mitigate that as quickly as possible.
	But that is, that is, I agree with that.
	A lot of men have to learn to listen sometimes and just let a woman bet.
	Actually, I was going to say that, but a lot of women say that.
	But I'll say something different.
	Maybe not be so reactionary.
	Like, this is something like me and my husband have had to work through.
	Like, sometimes I'll come home and I've had just a crap day and I'll be like so upset about whatever and like venting blah And then like he'll think that I'm like bringing that to him versus me just experiencing it and wanting to get out.
	He'll like be upset with me.
	Does that make sense?
	So he'll like react to my feelings and then he'll think I'm mad at him because I had a crap day.
	But I'm just really trying to vent it out.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah.
	I don't know why he does it, but he does it.
	I still love you, babe.
	Well, I would want men to do more in relationships.
	That was the question.
	Yeah, it's something you wish they did or something they don't do enough of that you wish they did more of, either?
	Or?
	I think in the beginning, just establish that your core values are aligned so that it can be long-lasting.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, why do you say that?
	What experience do you have?
	Let's fix this.
	Yeah, just to make sure that you're on the same page so you don't go through like two to three years and then something crops up and it's like, oh, wait, this is one of my core values.
	We never spoke about this.
	Are you with me?
	Like if this thing happens?
	Ben George donated $69.
	Men see responsibility from 30,000 feet above and take on a great responsibility.
	Women see men from 10 feet away and expect them to treat them in kind.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We can continue.
	So I think for me, I think, hmm.
	Men not expecting perfectionism on, I wouldn't say, I would say on honest mistakes as opposed to immoral acts.
	Like, you know, like, let's say I went and slashed his tires.
	Okay, like you don't have you know, you don't have to forgive me for that.
	But I, you know, had dated a guy one time and I was helping and with the business and stuff, and I was really good at making sales.
	Like, I was really good at it, and I still am.
	But I couldn't close this one guy, and he speaked another language, and it was impossible to communicate with them.
	And at the end, he was like, I can't believe that you didn't do this for me.
	Like, you are like, so like, put it on.
	I was like, I'm a good saleswoman.
	Like, I'm a good person.
	I couldn't get that one.
	Like, I did not speak Mandarin.
	Like, I can't.
	And so, there's only so much beyond my control.
	So, you know, being more forgiving of honest mistakes as opposed to immoral, like, oh, you slash my tires.
	Like, I don't like that.
	Like, something like that.
	Okay.
	I'm a jerk.
	He apologized.
	And, you know, we had a talk, but I mean, obviously, we're not, you know, dating anymore, but you know, it was just, I'm not super woman, even though I want to be.
	Like, I'm not.
	And so, so it's like, there's times where I can't do something like that.
	I'm pandering.
	I would like to.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Wow.
	I guess I would love men to work on being more loyal.
	That would hit home.
	Oh, we know why that one.
	That would hit home.
	Does it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	There's loyal men out there.
	I was going to say I have more like sexual discipline and not in my marriage because I learned from old relationships.
	But yeah, like pornography.
	Wait, am I allowed to say that word?
	I get that.
	Cornography.
	Yeah, just like looking at other women, stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	Having more discipline.
	I noticed that was a trigger for you.
	Big thing.
	I noticed that was a trigger for you when I was talking about the infidelity.
	When?
	Earlier in the conversation, when I was talking about infidelity and you brought up sexual discipline, like you, you seemed passionate about infidelity.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	When we had the conversation, you was like, are you just saying a man?
	Yeah, you're like, are you just saying a man should cheat, you know?
	So that's coming from experience.
	You've experienced infidelity.
	Yeah, but that I don't think that.
	Well, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Could be repressed.
	I mean, maybe.
	Okay.
	I think it's more just I was like, this doesn't make logical sense to me or there like something's there's a component missing, but um okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You got a question, Maddie?
	What about you?
	What about me?
	I guess it's for men, huh?
	Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
	What about you for a woman?
	What about me for women?
	I wish women didn't have unrealistic expectations in terms of expecting men to behave like women.
	I think a lot of male behavior is perceived and interpreted as if we were women.
	So women behave as if, like I stated earlier, when a guy does something, the woman's automatic assumption is it means the same thing or it has the same motivation or intention as it would have if she did it.
	So a lot of times I had to explain that I'm different.
	Like it may not be, you may not be able to grasp that I have a different sense of motivation on certain things or have different intent behind certain things than what a woman does, but it's the truth.
	And I think a lot of times women struggle with that because their automatic interpretation or perception of what a man does is I would have did it if that were me.
	That would have been the reason I did it.
	So that has to be the reason he did it.
	And I just think that women need to be more understanding about men has different value systems.
	So a lot of the times if you perceive something that he does to be to have ill will or be bad faith or be spiteful, you know, things women will do when they're upset.
	You know, it's not necessarily that, especially like truth telling or being honest.
	Like women are a lot more, I will say, women believe they're the arbiters of morality in a lot of ways, and they're quick to say that makes you a bad person if you do something they dislike or they disagree with.
	Whereas men, we're just a lot more straightforward.
	We're a lot more objective and logical.
	So, a lot of times when we say things, it can come off as abrasive or insensitive, but we don't see it that way.
	We just see that there's value in the truth being told as it is, whereas women don't necessarily want to, they don't necessarily take it that way, don't necessarily perceive it that way, and that creates a lot of conflict in relationships.
	So, yeah, so I just think there needs to be a better understanding of that men are different and we have different perceptions, we have different motivations, we have different intentions, and everything is not always what it seems in terms of as bad faith as it comes off.
	There's a lot of good intent behind a lot of the things we do, even if women dislike it or dislike it.
	The guy won't take a bullet for you.
	Reminds me of that movie Think Like a Man, where they're like reading that book, Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man is like the best way to love a man and attract the right guy is to act like a lady, but also know a man's nature so you can love him in the right way and understand why he does the things he does and thinks the way he does.
	So, communicate and be less assumptive.
	Yes, I agree.
	Yep.
	Last thing on the bullet thing.
	Just want to clarify because some people will just assume the worst.
	Obviously, I'd protect if I was dating somebody, I'd protect them to the best of my ability.
	Just won't take a bullet for them.
	And that's not the best of your ability.
	Well, okay, let me ask you a question.
	You're employed, right?
	You can make overtime, and your employer says, Well, you just work as much as you want, but you want a healthy work-life balance, but the maximum productivity and the best thing for the employer would be for you to work 12-hour days, five days a week.
	But you only are inclined to do nine-hour days, five days a week.
	You're not giving it your all, your best.
	I don't think there's a correlation between your loved one and your work, your employer asking you to work 12 hours, right?
	But like sometimes doing the maximum thing that you can do isn't always the right thing.
	True.
	And in this scenario, I don't think the maximum way you could protect somebody by sacrifice.
	Well, technically, yes.
	If you dying for somebody, technically, yes, that would be the maximum thing that you could do to protect somebody, but not going to do it.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But you said you would do it to the best of your ability.
	And I said, if you won't take a bullet, it's not your best of your ability.
	So, yeah, you're not maximizing it.
	So, just don't say to the best of your ability.
	Just say, I'll try.
	The maximum willingness, the best.
	Yeah, a maximum ability that does not imply that you're not going to be able to do that.
	No, Hold on.
	I can still say to the best of my ability, excluding my willingness to take a bullet.
	What's the point of the caveat?
	Just don't even say to the best of your ability in the first place.
	Just say you can still do something to the best of your ability.
	Like, I'm trying to think of something like an example here.
	Something to the best of your ability.
	I'm going to do the job to the best of my ability.
	Like, I'm trying to think here.
	Yeah, that seems reasonable.
	But I'm not willing to die.
	Like, yeah, you know, hey, babe, you dropped your phone in the lake.
	Huh?
	Like, it froze.
	Oh.
	What froze?
	Everyone in the chat saying it, and you can read it here.
	Oh, did you say that?
	Oh, fuck.
	No, it's not that.
	God damn it.
	Uh, hold on.
	It just just give it a sec.
	I'm still getting connection.
	Did something get kicked while she started walls?
	Somebody walked off over there?
	I don't think so.
	Give it just a sec.
	I think it's coming back.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, it looks like- oh, fuck.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	Still lag, still lag.
	What what did we do last time to fix this?
	Chat.
	Oh, it keeps dropping to zero.
	Fuck.
	Shit.
	Even the camera.
	That's weird though.
	We're still seeing the.
	The chat's still coming through.
	I'm not sure why.
	How can is our one sec?
	What's going on?
	Okay.
	Wait, okay, one in the chat.
	One in the chat.
	If you can see us at all, even if it's laggy.
	One in the chat, can you see us?
	Is anything coming through?
	Two in the chat if you can't see anything.
	One in the chat, if it's working, two in the chat, if it's not working.
	So maybe our upload just like got scuffed?
	Did somebody, Nick, did somebody like step on the wire there or anything?
	Or no, I don't think so.
	Uh it seemed like not.
	Hold on.
	I'm trying to think.
	Okay.
	So we're still recording though.
	We're still recording, so Nick, close out all tabs.
	All unnecessary tabs.
	Just close them all out.
	I'm going to do a couple things here on my end.
	Close out all tabs.
	I'm going to try.
	Hold on.
	No data.
	No data.
	Um, hmm.
	Shit.
	F the pod.
	Wow, people are so angry.
	Let me check Twitch.
	I'm assuming Twitch is.
	Let me check.
	Hold on.
	Sorry, for those of you who are watching this on playback on other platforms, you're going to experience a bit of a temporary stream frozen.
	Working on a fix.
	If you can tell them.
	Nick, hide the stream yards thing really quick.
	One sec, guys.
	We'll get this figured out.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, not working over there on Twitch either.
	Hmm.
	Do we stop stream and restart?
	This is.
	We've never had this happen.
	It's very peculiar.
	Let me check a couple things on my end.
	What could it be?
	Nick, could you open the tab in the other window, do a speed test?
	Unfortunate.
	pull it over to this window so i could see it uh yeah minimize obs It's frozen.
	So I think they're running like a system diagnostic.
	Okay.
	It looks like it's not.
	Downlo d so that this is weird.
	Download is working.
	The upload's very low.
	I'm not sure what the solution is here.
	Yeah, here's what we're going to do.
	We're just going to yellow this.
	So, Nick, what I need you.
	Oh, wait, I'm getting an excellent connection.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	Give it 10 seconds.
	Fix it.
	Too much milks leaving what brand.
	Those of you who are watching this on probably Spotify, never had this happen before.
	We live stream this.
	Nick, here's what I'm going to have you do.
	I'm going to have you not do anything on the computer.
	I'm going to have you unplug just how you normally do.
	Unplug those two things.
	Who said we're back?
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Ooh, good thing.
	Are we back, boys?
	Are we back?
	Are we back?
	Wait.
	Back for a sec, but it's laggy.
	Great.
	Okay.
	Maybe it was during that stream test.
	Hold on, guys.
	We're trying to get it figured.
	I wonder if that was while we were.
	hold on guys uh reset the router once that one One sec.
	You broke the internet with your bullet comment.
	Every 30 seconds.
	Unless YouTube invalidated your stream key.
	Go reset the modem.
	Okay, let's.
	I think at this point, they said back for two seconds, unplug it, count to 10 seconds, plug both of those back in.
	We're losing everybody, but hey, fuck it.
	You know, it is what it is.
	They'll come back.
	Yeah, we'll get some people to come back.
	Yeah.
	It's only been five minutes.
	Fucking Cox is fucking dog shit.
	Was there a Tesla internet thing?
	Because my friend at the ranch said.
	How long was it unplugged for, Nick?
	Starting?
	Yeah, Starlink.
	She has that.
	And she was like, oh, it's like perfect.
	Starlink.
	That's what she said.
	Yeah.
	So maybe that does it.
	Maybe not.
	We're going to see, can you, you might want to just X out of that or refresh it.
	I don't know if you can from there.
	It's going to probably take a minute to restart.
	Oh.
	Yeah, wait, pull up OBS though.
	Pull up OBS.
	Ignore that.
	OBS.
	Just hide StreamYard.
	Hide StreamYard.
	No, no, no, no.
	In the sources tab.
	Okay, now you can refresh.
	Those of you watching, we are experiencing technical difficulties.
	We will be back momentarily.
	Never had this quite happen before.
	Very peculiar.
	Very peculiar, my dear.
	So I. That's it.
	Only YouTube or just Twitch, too?
	Oh boy.
	Maybe we shouldn't have.
	I mean.
	Hmm.
	Trying to think the best.
	So we have a couple options, Nick.
	We wait a little bit longer, see if this gets going again.
	The other option would be, I'm pretty confident if we do a system reset, restart the computer, that means we do have to end stream and restart the stream.
	I want to give it one minute because sometimes it takes a little bit.
	So, Nick, could I have you just do a refresh here?
	And can you try to open up?
	There it is.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Maybe this will bring it back just too soon.
	Too soon.
	Wait.
	Mute.
	Stop cam.
	Enter studio.
	Okay.
	Pull OBS back up.
	There we go.
	Fixed.
	Okay.
	I'm a fucking genius.
	One's in the chat.
	Pull up the chat for me.
	Pull up the chat for me.
	Hey, guys, did we get it fixed?
	One in the chat if it's fixed.
	One in the chat if it's fixed.
	Tune the chat if we're back.
	Backup data plan.
	Interesting.
	Brian looking zesty.
	Thanks.
	Yo, are we back?
	Are we back?
	Tell us we're back, boys.
	Tell us we're back.
	We've probably lost 3,000 viewers.
	Are we back?
	He says we're back.
	Oh, one.
	There we go.
	Isn't that beautiful?
	Troubleshooting.
	Figured out.
	Easy peasy.
	Did it.
	I got something good for this one.
	Hold on.
	One sec, boys.
	We are back.
	Yes.
	That's awesome.
	We're back, boys.
	We're back.
	We lost all the viewers.
	Ah, shit.
	Sorry.
	I don't know what the fuck happened.
	We just restarted the router.
	It took about.
	We should have done that immediately, but we were hoping it would just naturally figure itself out.
	I want to take this moment to thank the sponsor of today's video, Cox Communications.
	Now, if you want shitty fucking internet and just shitty service, be sure that, you know, Cox Communications, what's their stupid fucking slogan?
	The digital age?
	What's their fucking thing?
	Something the new paranormal.
	Cox digital age.
	What is it?
	I don't even fucking know.
	Nobody knows what it is.
	I thought it was enter the digital age.
	I thought so.
	Your friend in the digital age?
	Is that it?
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	Cox Communications, your fucking op and enemy in the digital age.
	There we go.
	We're back, boys.
	Sorry about that.
	We've never had that happen before.
	We've had lag issues, never had just a full drop.
	We're back, boys, though.
	It's all good.
	What's up, Nick?
	Can you pull up that super chat?
	We're going to have our dear British friend read it.
	Oh, rip.
	Oh, StreamYard's not.
	Sources, sources.
	Okay.
	I'd die for that lady in the middle, and there may be other women who would be worthy of dying for, but they'd have to be honorable, loyal souls, whom, yes, I'd feel it complete.
	What?
	Completing to die for.
	But you're wanting men to die for you just cause?
	Yeah, fuck that.
	That sounded so bad in my accent.
	It sounded great.
	It was beautiful.
	Sounded terrible.
	It was beautiful.
	I don't know where what were we talking about before.
	I think it's not a good.
	We were talking about the best.
	Yeah, please do the bullets.
	Still the bullet.
	Please move on to that.
	The girls love it.
	That's what caused the lag.
	One final question.
	One final question on it.
	Why?
	Why?
	Why should men take a bullet for women?
	Why?
	He shouldn't if he shouldn't.
	I think it's obviously we know where your values stand, but it's about your values, your integrity, your nobility, and whether you can live with yourself or not, and if you want to carry that.
	So those are the reasons why I feel like that's just the standard.
	If you love her, you take a bullet for her.
	Because it's honorable, dutiful, sacrificial love is like the ultimate act of nobility.
	Period.
	Because I thought it was just a built-in feature.
	She just thought it was in the system.
	It was in the system.
	I guess I was wrong.
	It's just for Brian.
	It's not in his system.
	He's an Android.
	Well, I'm just curious.
	He's on an iPhone.
	He's an Android.
	Wait for it.
	Go ahead.
	Why should I?
	I don't think they should.
	I just think that if they say they love me and there's no kids involved, then I would hope.
	But she said if you love them, you would die for them.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think the Bible says love knows no greater than this, that one would lay down his life for his friend.
	So then you said it's just built into men?
	I thought it was a built-in feature.
	I thought so too.
	Let me ask you a question.
	As a man, if I say all women are somehow duty-bound to have children, they must have children.
	Would you object to that?
	It doesn't matter what they think.
	They have to have children.
	Would you object to that?
	Are you saying women should have children, like you would force them to?
	Or do you mean like if it ends in just Gerald donated $69?
	Sorry about the stream dropping.
	That's my back.
	I'll send a bear over to fix it.
	Yeah.
	Yo, Gerald, yeah, it's probably the, I don't know, it's probably the alcohol.
	Blame it on the alcohol.
	Do you mean like it should be built into women as that should be built into men?
	Wait, Natalia.
	I always forget, is it Natalie or Natalia?
	I think it's Natalie or Natalia.
	Yo, Cox technical support.
	Thank you.
	You owe me way more.
	We lost like, I don't know, 3K or something.
	Who knows?
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Hi.
	I asked the question.
	Sorry.
	Oh, I was.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you mean as in women should have that like innate drive in them to have children just as men should have that innate drive to lay down their life?
	Or what do you mean by that question?
	Well, if women can have the position of my expectation for a man is that he's willing to die for me, then what would be the corresponding demand from men?
	I think, yes, biologically, for the continuum of continuum, is that the word?
	For the continuing of the human race, it probably should be built into us.
	I don't know if that's going to be the case any longer, given that we're really fusing with technology and we do seem to be like evolving into a different species altogether.
	But yeah.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would you guys all say here that a woman who doesn't want to have children, she's not feminine?
	Would you say that to a woman who doesn't want to have kids?
	No, no.
	No.
	Slightly.
	Who doesn't want to or who can't?
	Who doesn't want to?
	I'll just go around the table and just get a definitive answer from everybody.
	I wouldn't say that that's not feminine.
	No.
	I would say that, yeah, you're a little less feminine if you don't want children.
	Wouldn't say it's a bad thing, but yeah.
	Is it masculine to want to have children?
	No, he's asking, like, would it be less feminine?
	Well, I'm trying to think of a counterpoint to me not being willing to die for a woman.
	So I'm trying to figure out if that's the expectation on men, what's the like equivalent, frankly, there is none.
	What's the equivalent gender expectation on women?
	Yeah, I was just saying, don't men and women want to procreate.
	That's true.
	I don't think it's something that is procreation thing.
	Well, maybe it's more the strong dying for the weak, the same way a woman would die for a child.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, fine.
	If a woman gets an abortion, is she less feminine?
	Yes.
	Yes, no.
	Because femininity would nurture a child.
	I also think, yeah, if you don't want to have kids, you are not as feminine.
	You're not in your feminine.
	I'm not quite finding the best example.
	I don't know what it is.
	Because frankly, there is no sacrifices that women take on that is comparable to men.
	Well, yeah, her dying for her kid, for her child.
	Dying for her child.
	Okay.
	Sacrificing her life for her child.
	So I suppose, so that's the man doing something for the woman.
	What is something that a woman can do for a man?
	Gender solid donated $69.
	Brian already said it earlier.
	Women expect chivalry, but don't reciprocate with chastity.
	That's actually very, very well put.
	But again, it's, but who is your partner?
	I mean, obviously you're looking for a woman with chastity.
	So we're saying if you're with a woman who is very feminine, who is very traditional, say she checks all of your boxes.
	You wouldn't lay down your life for her.
	She wouldn't be deserving of that?
	He already said no.
	I wouldn't do it in any scenario.
	Okay, but his point was that, but you wouldn't do it for a modern woman.
	Do you think that that woman, the one who's like not the modern woman, the one that has the traits that you're desiring, do you think she's going to go for someone like you who won't lay down their life for her?
	That's a good question.
	Probably not.
	Probably not.
	So are you prepared to be single for the rest of your life?
	Like, come on, let's be real.
	You should reset your expectations just a smidge.
	I should change my expectations.
	This is crazy.
	If you're not willing to die for a woman, you're just never going to find a woman.
	It's the love of your life.
	It's the mother of your kids.
	We're not just talking about blanket women.
	The kind of woman that you say you want.
	Right.
	That's the word.
	Only men have to do anything to make themselves appealing to women.
	Women don't have to do anything.
	Y'all don't have to meet any standards or boundaries.
	That's true.
	I don't believe that's true either.
	I think that's.
	Women are far more picky than men are.
	And that's okay.
	That's how it should be.
	Women have higher standards.
	Which is why women shouldn't have so many, like, such a big body count as well.
	They should have standards.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm still trying to like find, though.
	So what would be the corresponding thing that women are supposed to do for men?
	Have babies, have their children raise them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	If that's what they're doing.
	Give them a home.
	Yeah.
	So if a woman is not willing to do that, does that make her?
	I don't know if beta really does that make her less feminine?
	Does that make her less deserving of having a partner?
	Answer the question.
	If what?
	Because all of you said, let me just rewind the tape here.
	Because my position is that I'm not willing to.
	You can hide it for a bit.
	Can we already show that one?
	No, I just popped up.
	Did it?
	Okay.
	Oh, my bad.
	Same guy.
	All of you here said that because I am not willing to die for a girlfriend or wife or whatever it is, that that makes me beta.
	It makes me less masculine.
	It makes me effeminate.
	It makes me not masculine.
	What would be the corresponding thing that a woman refuses to do for a man that would make her less feminine or a bitch or whatever?
	Sleep around.
	Promiscuously.
	Not have children.
	Yeah, I think not have children.
	Have a strategy.
	That's the biggest one, I would say.
	Because to his defense, he asked, Would that make women less feminine if they decided not to have kids?
	What am I preserving if you're not going to have kids?
	If you don't value having children, then what the fuck am I laying my life on the line for if you're not going to continue my genetic legacy?
	Right.
	I agree with that.
	Because we're all animals.
	Yeah, we're not.
	I mean, we would understand if you're not willing to lay down your life for a woman who doesn't share the same values that you are looking for.
	We're saying for like the ultimate woman, like the woman of your dreams.
	You wouldn't do that for a dream, do we?
	I don't know.
	Well, like, okay, we're romanticized.
	Okay, well, we're not saying like the woman hypothetical sorry that you just entertain my hypothetical.
	Okay, but it's a woman that that shares the same values and holds themselves to a regard that you would admire.
	It's just it's it's look, it's a very gynocentric attitude that men ought to sacrifice their life for women.
	It's very how is it how could that possibly not be woman focused that men need to die for women?
	That's incredibly female-centered.
	We're gonna have a hard time finding something that is just that equal, but also love doesn't keep count.
	So just so I'm clear, just so I'm clear.
	Because real Trump donated $69.
	As men, we are supposed to literally sink with the title and freeze to death to save women.
	But the minute we ask her to make a sandwich, iron a shirt, or rub our back weir, the misogynist does.
	See, you guys are talking about the worst, like, right?
	So, not the women that would deserve to take a bullet for them.
	Like, of course, if my man wants his back rubbed and he's providing his share of the relationship, of course, I'm going to want to do all the things.
	Exactly, masculine women bring out our feminine side.
	We're comparing it to like girls that are just out here in the streets.
	They don't care.
	They're just trying to be taken care of.
	Don't take a bullet for her.
	Hold on.
	But here's the issue, right?
	You got a bunch of modern women who are not traditional in any sense who still demand traditional treatment from men.
	That is, I disagree with them.
	That's an issue.
	Yeah, that is an issue.
	That's a real issue.
	Okay, but let's take it to one of the ultimate things that a woman can do to be a traditional woman, which is to be a virgin until you meet your life partner.
	How many of you have a body count of one or zero?
	What is your point?
	What is your actual point?
	I'll restate.
	I'll restate again what I've already said.
	But what does it matter?
	Because you don't even care if they're virgins.
	You still won't lay down your life for them.
	And if they're not, virgin or not.
	But I'm just gonna say, I'm playing on the same level because it's for two men.
	Because, yes, here, I'll explain why.
	Because you have non-traditional women who will still get and still expect the traditional treatment from men.
	And that's bastard.
	A girl who does promiscuous and who's not modest and who all this stuff.
	We all want to get the maximum that we can get, right?
	So I don't see any objections at all to me not subscribing.
	Y'all want equality.
	Y'all, you know, feminism is here to stay.
	I'm adapting to the new normal.
	Okay.
	Feminism is here to stay, right?
	Let me ask you here.
	Let me.
	Seems like it's serving you.
	Seems like.
	Look.
	I don't even know.
	I'd just be curious, like, what would be the equivalent thing a woman could say where y'all would dogpile her and be like, you're not, you guys aren't feminine, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay.
	Q, why would you sacrifice your life for the woman you love?
	Because I'm sexist.
	Elaborate.
	But in sexism, women are more vulnerable creatures.
	They're weaker.
	And I just would be inclined to do it because I feel is that my duty.
	I wouldn't be able to live with myself if the girl that I love died on my hands.
	Okay, so difference of opinion.
	Sure.
	I don't, and look, if the guy is willing.
	Yeah, I can pick it up with him.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, you guys should just have that conversation.
	Look, if a guy's willing to do it.
	I mean, but his point is, his point still is valid.
	I mean, he doesn't have to do it.
	No, but he's saying he has to.
	You guys are losing.
	I'm not going to do this for like the last hour.
	You guys are literally saying you're going to be single for a while.
	We don't have to know what you're doing.
	You don't have to do it, but it doesn't make you right for not.
	You don't have to.
	It's just crazy the gender expectations on men of you have to lay down your life for me.
	So are you trying to change our mind?
	But see, it's alright, though.
	It's just a moral quandary because he really has.
	he doesn't have to so it's like yeah that's what we've been saying Let me strongly do it out of love.
	Here's a good example.
	You're on a plane.
	They always say, put your mask over your child's face.
	Or no, put your face.
	Sorry.
	Most people, they say that because most people will put an air mask on their child before themselves.
	Most mothers will put, you know, try to save their child before themselves.
	That's the expectation of a mother.
	But if the mother tries to save herself before her child, that's the same scenario.
	It is.
	They can do that, but obviously society's going to look bad at the mother.
	Okay.
	I mean.
	I mean, what would you want your wife, mother of your kids to do?
	Save herself first or save your kids?
	Yeah, would you be with a woman who wouldn't be willing to lay your life?
	Well, now we're introducing the child component into it.
	I just think you're still stuck on this target that does all those equivalent.
	That's an expectation of most moms.
	I mean, I would just simply, I'm trying to, what was the question I was demanding be answered, but nobody answered it.
	I forgot.
	What's the equivalent to a male?
	That was the parallel.
	Yeah.
	A woman sacrificing her life for her child.
	Okay.
	I mean, look, I'll just, again.
	It's instinct.
	Again, I think perhaps the ultimate form of something that a woman could give to a man would be virginity.
	No, I think it's providing a family.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but so if men value sexual purity in women, then I mean, what's, or did I already ask what's the bigger ask?
	Asking someone to die or a woman being a virgin?
	Yes.
	Okay, well.
	But what would you value more than Brian?
	Would you value being with a woman who's a virgin, but she can't have kids?
	Or being with a woman who's had two bodies before you, but she gave you five kids?
	If I want to have kids, then yeah, the woman with the two bodies.
	If I don't want to have kids, the virgin.
	So we're saying, what do you want?
	Kids or no kids?
	It's very likely, yes, that I want to have kids.
	Okay.
	Would you be with a woman who wasn't willing to lay down her life for her?
	I mean, we're kind of, I don't know if that's totally related, but it's an expectation.
	Yes, I suppose I would hope that she would be willing to sacrifice herself for the children.
	What if she said no?
	What if she thought like you did?
	What if she had a brain like you?
	But then every woman who wouldn't be willing to sacrifice herself for me?
	Okay.
	I'm talking about the same thing.
	You mean the status quo?
	What if she wasn't holding sexuality?
	You mean the status quo?
	No.
	You mean the status quo?
	That's the thing when you're in love with a person, like that girl would do that for you too.
	I would do it for my partner as well.
	But okay, only one person can do it.
	And if your answer is, I want the guy to lay down his life for me, then you can't both die.
	I had this conversation too.
	I was like, yeah, women can say I would do it, but would you actually, though, I would do it.
	For someone you love, I would get in there.
	I think that's different.
	Look.
	It's not just women.
	It's a person.
	I would still absolutely attempt to, if I'm dating a girl, I would absolutely protect her.
	If there's a fucking intruder breaking in, I'm grabbing the gun and I'm going to dispatch the fucker.
	Why?
	Behind her.
	Again, we're talking.
	Why, though?
	Why that scenario?
	Okay.
	I mean, I could just, look, I'll just turn this around on you.
	None of y'all are virgins.
	I could just dunk on her all night.
	I could dunk on you all night.
	Sure.
	Oh my gosh, my family.
	My kids are so hurt.
	I've already had multiple sexual partners.
	Yeah, big deal.
	Okay, Brian.
	Okay, moving on.
	Would you be with the girl who wouldn't die for your kids?
	Would you be with her?
	If she did her best.
	Right.
	To her ability.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look, this is a very complicated question.
	Probably, I'd probably want, I would want a partner that would be willing, because I would, that would be willing to lay their life on the line for their kids.
	I would.
	I would want her to do the same.
	But when I'm talking about partner to partner, I wouldn't sacrifice my life for my partner.
	I guess at this point, it's just a preference of like one A10 or a team at the end.
	We can all agree to discuss.
	She could use your logic and say, well, I'll just continue the bloodline and have other kids.
	This kid can die or whatever, and we will just make more kids, right?
	I think it's a little dystopian comes from a woman.
	Like, because we expect a woman to be like nurturing and motherly.
	And I think that's what I expect men to be protected.
	Yeah.
	But I think it's almost even scarier if it comes from, because you're like, wow, like, I'm scared.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, I think a creepy woman is creepier than a creepy man.
	I think if you love someone, brother, mother, whatever, you're going to want to lay down your life for them, period.
	Let me ask you a question, right?
	Would you think it's wrong?
	Like, so let's be realistic about the current dating landscape.
	A lot of women, who aren't necessarily bad people, but a lot of women are dating multiple men at the same time, sleeping with multiple men at the same time.
	I don't think it necessarily means they're like bad people necessarily, but it's a kind of a shady way to move, especially if there's a guy who's genuinely interested in you and he's not moving that way, right?
	We talk about chivalry.
	It would be the chivalrous thing, the gentlemanly thing, to go ahead and sacrifice your life for a woman.
	Guys are supposed to take a bullet for gross ran through 304s that won't bow or submit to their man.
	Yeah, no thanks.
	You guys are still in the bullet.
	And I'm not sure.
	Get the rocks.
	Like, you guys are not even talking about high-value women.
	Get the rocks.
	So, like, yeah, that makes sense.
	Are you a high-value woman?
	I would think so.
	You said that it didn't even matter.
	Yeah.
	You were modest and everything.
	I wouldn't do it.
	So what does it matter?
	Why bring this kind of thing?
	These points have, you know, standard ground because it doesn't matter either way.
	Yeah.
	For you.
	You said it doesn't matter.
	High value, low value, whatever.
	Look, I wouldn't do it.
	We get that there is an inequality here.
	We get that there is no parallel to this.
	We get it.
	We understand.
	Your values are different than what everyone at this table desire out of a man.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm sure.
	Perhaps I'm an outlier.
	I'm perhaps making, I'm making the argument.
	Thank you, we're getting somewhere.
	I'm making the argument for other men.
	Which one?
	Like forced morality.
	How are you going to be another guy and lay your life on the line for a girl that's moving in this sort of way?
	I agree.
	I agree with that.
	That was weird.
	My dear, you want a guy on a first date to sacrifice his life for you.
	You just had a cuddle session with your boyfriend today.
	That's not true.
	If a guy went on a date with you tonight, even though you claim to be single for a year, let me ask you a question.
	If a guy asked you out on a date, would you tell him you've been single for a year?
	Would that be your genuine answer?
	Yeah, but I would also tell him that I'm still, yeah, I'm still figuring things out with my ex.
	And you want that guy to lay his life on the line with you?
	Here's the scenario.
	Let me paint the scenario.
	Your situation are still hung up on your ex, you hung out with him this morning.
	Let's say you went on a date with a guy tonight instead of coming on this podcast.
	He lays his life on the line with you.
	How quickly after he just sacrificed his life for you, are you hanging out with your ex-boyfriend?
	Here's the thing.
	I'm not answering the question.
	No, no, no, no.
	What's your question?
	Answer the question.
	What's your question?
	How soon after this first date of yours lays his life?
	I would not go then hang out with my ex.
	Well, despite you being broken up, you hung out with him yesterday and today.
	Okay.
	I would suspect you would actually probably immediately hang out with yourself.
	I'm going out on this date.
	Here's the thing.
	I don't just go out on dates anyway.
	So if I'm going out on a date with a guy.
	No, no, no.
	Don't weasel out of it.
	Answer the question.
	People lay their lives down.
	No, stop, stop, stop.
	Answer the question.
	And that's for their country.
	How soon after this guy lays his life down for you, are you hanging out with your ex?
	I'm not.
	Never?
	That's the precipitating factor in you finally ending this toxic.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	I don't know.
	That's like such a hypothetical that I wouldn't.
	Within a week?
	How often do you see him?
	How often do you see him currently?
	I don't know, like once a week.
	So would you see him within a week?
	I'm supposed to lay down my life for a girl?
	My situation is different, though.
	Now you're just kind of like you're kind of just trying to dunk on me now, obviously.
	No, I'm just you.
	Yeah, because my situation is like the worst situation here.
	Catholic maminx donated $69.
	False.
	Many of them will kill their own babies before they are born.
	Why do we think after the child is born it will be any different?
	They put themselves first already.
	Who's they?
	There's wonderful.
	Just to be clear, there's absolutely wonderful women out there.
	Virtuous women, women who don't move shady like that, aren't promiscuous, don't have a high body count.
	Absolutely.
	But there's a large portion, a lot of women who do move kind of shady, who are dating multiple guys, who are still hung up on the next, who's alpha widowed, who will go right back to that ex after you do the chivalrous thing and lay down your life for her, and then she'll be.
	That's not true.
	I think I would feel so badly if a guy laid down his life for me.
	Go ahead.
	No, keep going.
	That's like hot.
	Oh, that's it.
	That's like crazy for me to then just go to my ex.
	But would you not lay your life down for yourself?
	That's what it's going to take.
	That's what it's going to take for me.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	That's a relationship with your ex for a guy to die.
	I'm telling you that I would even delete myself for people I don't know.
	And whether or not you want to believe that, that's totally fine.
	You would do that for her.
	You're going to stop with her ex before.
	You would delete yourself for a while.
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	Like, if I'm going out on a date with a guy, I'm not like having my ex, I'm not seeing my ex like that.
	Like, I actually have to like the guy and be like, okay, I'm going to invest my time and my energy, and this guy's different in some way.
	But I'm not like trying to juggle both at the same time.
	Do you think it's a sexist statement to say that women?
	This isn't my, just, okay, preface, disclaimer.
	I don't necessarily believe this.
	I'm just using an example.
	Don't fucking clip me, you guys.
	Do you think it would be a sexist statement for someone to say, women's job is in the kitchen?
	Women's job is to make a man a sandwich.
	Do you object to that framework?
	Yeah, because I can't.
	So, just to be clear, wait, do you think it's good?
	Do you object to the statement?
	Yes or no?
	Quick answers, please.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we can get tornadoes.
	Is it sexist?
	Is that your question?
	Yeah, what's the question exactly?
	Is it wrong?
	Women's job is in the kitchen?
	Yes.
	Is that wrong to say?
	It's framed so horribly.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, it's like the happy white cat.
	Just answer the question.
	Bad connotation.
	Answer the question.
	Yes, it sounds terrible, but in a way, I do kind of agree.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	Yes, it's wrong.
	I think it's wrong saying it's their job.
	Go ahead.
	I don't think it's wrong.
	I think it's a part of our job.
	Okay, what about you?
	Sorry, the question one more time.
	Is it wrong to say that women's job is, I mean, the other one is like barefoot pregnant in the kitchen.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Is that wrong to say that's women's job?
	Women's job is in the kitchen.
	Yeah.
	I need to think about this.
	Sorry.
	I know it seems simple.
	Yes or no?
	Okay.
	I just don't want to say it's worded.
	I think all of you said, yes, it's wrong.
	Yeah.
	I said it's because, like, as animals, that's the same thing.
	I said our job, like, you know, with our biology, like those owls, you see the videos of them, they go out.
	The men go out and they're constantly hunting and they bring back the food for the woman and the babies.
	And sorry.
	So the owls go out and they bring back the food.
	The men are always out providing.
	And it's just in our nature.
	Okay, so why is it so it's wrong though?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm saying that like genetically, it is correct.
	I just think that that is such a loaded statement.
	And because of the way that we're evolving right now and how women are, they're not like that anymore.
	That it rubs them the wrong way.
	They're not wrong.
	Thank you for making, thank you, all of you, for making my argument.
	If you're prepared to say that it's wrong that a woman ought to be cooking in the kitchen, how is it not orders of magnitude?
	Hold on, let me finish.
	Don't interrupt.
	Stop.
	Let me actually make my point.
	How is it not orders of magnitude more objectionable and sexist and disgusting to say that men are disposable and men need to lay down their lives for women?
	Men need to die for women.
	Hey, I never said the rule was.
	I don't make their rules.
	I don't know if this is living in a fantasy land here.
	That seems way fucking worse, way more of a raw deal that men need to die and women have to be in the kitchen.
	Seriously.
	Why is it only sexist when it's anything that impacts women?
	But if it men, that's your traditional, that's your role.
	That's your role as a man.
	You're a beta male.
	You're a feminine.
	You're not masculine.
	But as a woman, I want to be a boss babe.
	Go, girl, you can be a boss babe.
	That's sexist if you say that women should be in the kitchen.
	Because y'all perceive it as degrading.
	We, I did not say that.
	I agree with that fact that women do not.
	You're the only one at the table.
	I'm the only one at the table.
	But y'all perceive that intuitively, that's degrading to y'all.
	No, here's the thing.
	It's just the way that it is.
	I don't like the way it's worded.
	But we're in our emotions.
	Of course, the way things are going to be said.
	Hold on.
	Let me actually address the tone thing here.
	It was the way you said it.
	It was totally the way you said it.
	Hold on.
	Let me address this.
	Nobody's saying here, die, pop.
	I'll even double down.
	I'll even double down.
	Your job is to die for us.
	Let's talk about tone for a sec.
	So I would argue, even if the tone is as polite and favorable as it can be, if you frame that men ought to die for women, and if you say it in the most polite way, dear men, I really think you guys, it would be.
	I'm trying to think of it.
	It would be really great if you guys could die for women versus if I were to say, damn, these bitches got to be in the fucking kitchen, these fucking bitches.
	I would still argue that you saying it politely that men should die is still orders of magnitude worse than a man being a raging misogynist saying, women, fucking, these fucking bitches ought to be in the fucking kitchen.
	Brian, we acknowledge the inequality.
	We understand inequality in this specific scenario.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you want a calling.
	And maybe it's not fair, but it's your faith.
	All of you objected.
	Again, it's orders of magnitude, a bigger ask for a guy to lay down his life and die for a woman than for a guy to be like, you belong in the kitchen.
	Yeah, me.
	You're saying you belong in a grave.
	Which one's worse?
	No.
	No, it's worse.
	It's comparable.
	You don't need to be afraid of it.
	It's worse for different women.
	One's really bad and one's just from one is negligible to the other.
	Like, it's kind of like women.
	Is you saying that's our only purpose?
	Yeah.
	That's where we have our sole purpose.
	That's where we have the issue: is women belong in the kitchen.
	My whole job is to do it.
	I'll give you a more fair, I'll give you, I'll try to give you one more last fair example, then we'll move on.
	Okay, so do you, okay, let me think how I want to frame this precisely.
	Is it shit?
	I kind of lost it.
	Because there is no parallel, and we acknowledge that.
	And that, what did we say?
	It sucks.
	Tough.
	Okay, here's the question.
	Do you think a guy who's not willing to lay down his life for his wife, do you think that should preclude him from being eligible for marriage?
	No.
	No?
	Hold on.
	Let me frame it.
	People marry losers all the time.
	Sure, but like, do you think that he's marriage worthy?
	Do you think that man should be able to get a mate?
	Anyone should be able to find love.
	Yeah.
	It's just, I think, I don't think mass murderers should find.
	Yeah, but you.
	It's like that song, like, how deep is your love?
	Like, that one song?
	Yeah.
	Maybe not like psychopaths.
	Is it okay?
	Do you think men who are not willing?
	Do you think men who are not willing to lay down their lives for their wives are worthy of that woman?
	Depends on the woman.
	That's fine.
	But if she's not okay with it, do you think it's good conduct on the man's part?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	So final question then.
	Do you, shit, I feel like the framing's fucked on this.
	The way I wanted to frame it was like, okay, if men who aren't willing to lay down their lives, they shouldn't get married.
	I would just ask: if women aren't virgins, should they be, you know, good mates for marriage?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Is this supposed to be like an own?
	I just don't see how it's an own.
	Because you can't get married if you don't want to lay down.
	I'm not trying to own.
	For a woman, that's fine.
	That's your project.
	Your prerogative.
	And there's probably a woman who agrees with that.
	I just don't think society, it's honorable.
	Just don't get with the girl that has caught so many bodies.
	Okay.
	Like, there's no nuance in what you're saying at all.
	Will you?
	I'm going.
	I'm curious.
	Would you guys be submissive to a boyfriend?
	I was about to ask.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	A boyfriend.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	Like I said, we get to turn into human popsicles in the Atlantic while the women stay alive on top of a floating door.
	I won't even give up a seat for a pregnant woman anymore.
	Thanks, feminism.
	Not that you're not.
	W feminism.
	It's like the world is going to happen.
	You were about to say.
	I mean, if he shows up in all the ways, then yes.
	You would be submissive?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	To a husband, yeah.
	But I mean, I think you can still have those qualities while you're dating.
	You like go from being, I don't know, like combative than anything.
	Let's say you're married.
	Let's say you're married to a guy.
	I don't know how this is going to.
	It just popped up into my mind.
	I've never used this question before, but you're dating a guy, or sorry, you're married to a guy, and he tells you he wants you to vote a certain way.
	Perhaps you disagree with.
	Do you will, and he says, I want you to vote for this, this, then this, or this politician, even though maybe you don't.
	Although there's a deeper thing there.
	Well, if your values don't align politically, I don't know.
	Just answer the politician.
	If he believes that that's going to benefit us as a whole and us as a household, and that's going to help us in the long term, then I'm going to trust his judgment and cast my vote on what he says.
	I think if I'm dating someone and they knew my values and what I wanted and they support that, then there's going to be reason behind it.
	But I would also ask follow-up questions.
	So biblically, we are, as Christians, we are supposed to submit to our husband unless it's dishonorable to God.
	So in certain scenarios, we do not have to submit to everything, but we still need to have submissive qualities.
	Sure.
	Would I agree with his vote and do it as he tells me to?
	He's like, I want you to vote for this politician.
	Perhaps you don't.
	I'm going to vote more emotionally, so I'd rather follow his logic.
	Okay.
	I'd say, you know me.
	I want to know why.
	And so I'd want a little, like, not like a debate, but I'd be like, tell me why I should, as opposed to what I think about this person.
	And if your logic is better, then I'll be swayed.
	Yes, because if I'm submitting to a man, I'm trusting him wholeheartedly.
	Yes.
	And these two girls gave like perfect answers.
	Sure.
	It was my first time that just popped into my head.
	Not sure if it was the greatest thing, but let me get into some of my notes here.
	I'll try to get through them as quickly as possible.
	A lot of you provided some pre-show notes, so we will try our best to get into it.
	Rahima, you said you once went on a first date and ended up in Tijuana.
	Tell us the quick story there.
	Quick story.
	I turned 21 and I matched with this guy who went to my school.
	And none of my friends are 21, so I really wanted to go to the club.
	And we were driving to the club, but then I realized that we were driving a little south.
	And then he was like, Do you have your passport?
	And I'm like, I do.
	And then we got there and we went to a club called Hong Kong in Tijuana.
	And he met a lady of the night because I didn't want to sleep with him.
	And then I had to call my mom and two family out of Tijuana.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	What a lie.
	And I ran into him on Kippus too.
	Is that why you keep your passport on you now?
	Oh, I am.
	Just in the middle of Tendency.
	Never know.
	Never know.
	Q, you're trying to go to TJ tonight.
	We can.
	Have fun.
	Opposite way.
	Can I have you read this one, please?
	Slayer GTX, thank you for the 69 Euro.
	Nobility standard.
	Is it noble and standard for you to not keep your body a temple for the person whom you love and flaunt it just because you can?
	Brian, not dying for women isn't bad when the calculation is this generation.
	AI partners win.
	Yo, appreciate it, Slayer.
	Look, I just, there are absolutely wonderful women out there, virtuous women, great women, perhaps even women that, you know, absolutely would be worth doing that for.
	I just can't, in good conscience, knowing the current dating landscape, just broad brush generally advise men to lay down their life for any given woman.
	I just can't paint with that broad brush.
	The current dating landscape's absolutely fucked.
	There's great people out there.
	There's a lot of bad people out there.
	I guess I can meet you there.
	I get that, Brian.
	Okay, beautiful.
	Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I don't know.
	And just seems like, you know, in order for there to be chivalry, there has to be some corresponding behavior on women's part to, you know, be deserving of said chivalry.
	You don't just get to be a modern woman, but still expect to get chivalrous treatment.
	Can't be.
	I think we all agree with you on that one.
	Yeah.
	Well, how many women are ladies, let's say?
	I can't give you a number.
	Are you asking which one of us?
	I don't know, but I mean, I think there's a massive what are you saying?
	Well, what would be like the corresponding chivalrous women don't really are chivalrous, but real Trump donated $69.
	Feminism has given us the talking corpse Joe Biden, and what has that gotten us?
	High gas prices, crazy inflation, wars all over the world, and pregnant men.
	Only the ghost D Trump can fix this mess.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	I just think what would be the corresponding chivalry thing for women.
	Having babies and nurturing them and raising them.
	Well, I mean, I'm talking more so from like a behavioral conduct thing.
	I mean, I see a total lack of modesty among a large swath of women.
	Modesty's gone.
	Promiscuity is rampant.
	And I just, it occurs to me that given the current climate, that it's not clear to me if you're deserving of chivalrous treatment.
	That's why the good ones are gems now, Brian, and you'll find one.
	Wait, what's that?
	The good ones are gems now, and you'll find one.
	Yeah, they'll be more rare and just more precious to you.
	More special to you.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, I promise we will try to avoid going back to that thing.
	We read this one.
	We're pretty pleased with the cherry on it.
	We'll get through the notes.
	Let's see.
	We were.
	Yeah, really quick, guys.
	Go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Can you highlight the thing over there?
	It's twitch.tv.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	If you have one, you can bring it back to the other one.
	Okay, and then you disagreed, not really into the red pill stuff.
	I don't really consider myself red pill, really?
	I don't know.
	Not like.
	So what are your disagreements on that?
	I just, I went on another podcast.
	Oh, you are on the Miami one?
	Yeah.
	I thought I recognized you from somewhere.
	I've seen her somewhere before.
	Did you get kicked off?
	No.
	No, I did not.
	Okay.
	He was on tiring about something else.
	Okay.
	That's it?
	You didn't fuck with the podcast?
	Okay, whatever.
	We have Jade.
	You said you're mixed feminist and traditionalist.
	What do you mean by that?
	I think OG feminist, where, you know, I want women to be able to vote and dress how they like.
	And I want women to have their freedom and their artistic expression.
	Like, I don't want to hide anything from anyone.
	Like, that's not my place.
	But for me, personally, I want a more traditional relationship.
	And I want to be more traditional.
	I was raised by my grandparents, and I wish I was more like my grandma.
	She was stunning.
	You said that women should be able to wear whatever they want.
	What I mean by that is I don't want to tell a woman like, oh, I don't like how you're dressed because you're not traditional.
	It's like, I'm never going to tell a woman what to wear.
	I just personally am just like, there's certain things I wouldn't wear.
	Oh, she's saying we should have the choice.
	Yeah.
	But for me, I want a more traditional relationship.
	And like, people ask me, like, why I wear corsets.
	I love corsets because they're like old-fashioned.
	And even though this one is a little bit more raunchy, you did say, come dress like you're on a date or something.
	And, you know, I like wearing traditional clothing too, like Victorian era clothing.
	It's really weird.
	Bachelor girls.
	They were like the first feminists.
	Is that the definition of feminism?
	Have you ever worn a bodice?
	Is that the really tight one?
	No, those hurt.
	Those are fun.
	I mean, I do want to dig in a little bit there on the women should be able to wear whatever they want.
	I don't disagree with you necessarily.
	What about tattoos?
	I don't want tattoos on me.
	I have like commitment issues with tattoos.
	But I see some and I'm like, it's a work of art.
	It means something to you.
	There's tribal tattoos, traditional tattoos, Celtic Welsh tattoos that are gorgeous.
	But I just, I can't have them.
	But, you know, if you want them, do it.
	Okay.
	You said you had a dating horror story.
	The perfect man on paper.
	Do you want to tell us that?
	You crying?
	No.
	This is like terrible.
	So he's a respectable businessman, well-spoken, highly educated, multiple languages.
	To me, it was, this is a great guy.
	You know, he could have a fantastic future ahead of him.
	I see a lot of potential in him.
	And we were going on a date and his phone was blowing up.
	And I was like, he's a businessman.
	It's okay.
	I'm not going to get jealous.
	But then as I was leaving his house, I saw a woman coming up in an Uber or something.
	And I was like, hmm, interesting.
	And I asked around and I was like, hey, do you know this guy?
	I just met him the other week and he seems perfect.
	They're like, yeah, he has a carousel of women and he gets through about four a day.
	And I was like, that's incredible.
	And you said rotating weekly.
	Is that correct?
	So I found out from these girls, whether it's true or not, but there were similar stories from all of them, that he would see, you know, multiple women in a day.
	And he had like his set of women that he would rotate.
	Like, this is my Wednesday afternoon.
	This is going to be my Saturday morning.
	And we're going to go play badminton or whatever.
	Badminton.
	And I was like, you know what?
	I'm.
	Oh, is it bad mitten?
	Oh, no, no, you're fine.
	You're fine.
	And so I was just like, okay, I don't want to be one of those carousel women.
	So I was like, right, I'll end it because there's no changing that.
	Okay.
	And so he was seeing like 20 plus women per week?
	I would assume so, yeah.
	Now, when you say he was the perfect man on paper, can you like list the attributes?
	So for me, he was well-traveled, spoke multiple languages.
	He could hold a conversation.
	He was very well educated, had multiple businesses, and I just saw him as very, very attractive.
	Like his personality.
	Was he wealthy?
	He was wealthy, not like an extreme wealth, but yeah, he owns multiple businesses.
	He was very attractive.
	Very intelligent.
	Good personality.
	And then just also looks-wise, physically attractive.
	Good, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Tall?
	Taller than me, which is always a.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'9, and he was 6'0.
	I'm six foot, okay.
	Good in the bedroom.
	We never got around to that.
	That's right.
	Okay.
	So you only went on a date like once or twice?
	I do have a rule of like I have to really get to know them before I have the carnal carnal knowledge.
	Interesting.
	I think it's because I'm terrified of like SDDs personally.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so when I found out, I was like, I dodged potentially a huge bullet.
	Right.
	You know.
	Fair.
	And then do you think he's still got a rotation going on?
	How long ago was this?
	That was six years ago.
	Six years ago?
	So 21 women per week.
	Hold on, let me do some fucking math here.
	Wait, 21 times 54.
	Let's just do 20 times 50.
	That's.
	Shit.
	Is it a thousand women or 200?
	Is that 1,000 a year?
	About a thousand a year?
	I think he had like...
	It was the same one?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the same rotating.
	And he was trying to put you in the rotation.
	What date were you on?
	Oh, he's trying to fit her in.
	He's trying to fit you on.
	I think he liked to collect women.
	Fucking desire.
	And he was like, ooh, a Welsh one.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	Is your accent Welsh, by the way?
	Is it like a Welsh accent?
	No, this is like received pronunciation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's because if I spoke in Leslie, can you like really up it, like make it really RP?
	Like the BBC.
	Yeah, can we hear something?
	Hi, you're listening to BBC One Wales.
	Tonight we have Brian.
	That's good.
	We gotta hire her.
	We gotta get her on the pocket.
	You're gonna read, you're gonna do all the TTS, all the super chats.
	We'll get you back.
	Probably not, though, because you probably think I'm a toxic piece of shit.
	You won't die for a woman.
	No.
	Everyone's different.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	What was I going to say?
	But are you super familiar with all the other accents too?
	Like, can you do the can you do Cockney?
	Yeah.
	Let's hear it.
	Come on.
	It's so bad.
	I can do Scottish really well because my granddad was Edinburgh.
	So from school.
	I'll ask you a question.
	I'll ask you a question and we'll have you respond in a Scottish accent.
	You said that you wanted to disagreed on perhaps the body count issue.
	Oh, in Scottish, though.
	Oh, I think that people are really obsessed with the whole, oh, what's your number?
	But it shouldn't matter that much.
	You know, if it's like 50 or like 500, it shouldn't matter.
	Pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Can I go back to being normal again?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But so wait, actually, 50?
	Sorry, no, no.
	I mean, like, I was just trying to think of words that sounded good.
	So what's your, yeah, what's your actual position?
	Again, with the society that we're in right now, the pressures, the media, everything that women are brought up with, I think there is a pressure for them to sleep with men a lot younger now as well.
	So to say to a woman, you're not worth as much because you have a high body count, it's not fair on her that she can't change that.
	And if she goes, you know what, I'm a born-again Christian and I want one man for the rest of my life and I regret everything I did in my past, then like good on her and it shouldn't matter.
	And I would never judge her for that.
	But that's just one example in one religion she could go down.
	It could be another one.
	Wait, so because she can't change it, then she should be forgiven for it.
	Is that your position?
	If she has like a regret for it and real remorse and she's like, God, I really wish I hadn't done that, then I'm going to be like, yeah.
	That's interesting because that was one of my questions.
	Do you ladies have any sexual regrets, sexual experiences that you regret?
	Yeah.
	I think that anything before college.
	Yes.
	Anything, anyone?
	Well, I mean, you know, I grew up in a small town, and, you know, it was, you know, people, they either had babies or if they couldn't find a mate, they had to get out of town, you know?
	And so, like, obviously, you know, you have a couple connections and they don't work out.
	So it's like, okay, well, we've all settled down.
	It's like, okay, time to skip town, go to another one.
	And then you go and you're like, oh man, like, that's kind of what I know because it's what I want, you know, what I know.
	So I don't know if like community, I wouldn't say community is to blame, but I would say the area that you live in can affect how you think from a youth.
	And if that is your life as a youth, then I mean, you're going to act like that way as an adult until it's like, oh, well, do it.
	You're a virgin.
	I'm like, dude, that passed long ago.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	Looks like the young hot queen from the show that's a good question.
	Question for her.
	What's her thoughts on Meghan Merkel?
	She married a person.
	She still won't shut the F up.
	They live near her, actually.
	Megan Merkel and Prince Harry.
	Oh, God.
	What do I think about Meghan Markle?
	Do we really want to go there?
	Give us like a brief, like a 30-second snippet.
	I'm not a royalist.
	I just wasn't brought up that way.
	I do think that she is extremely blessed in her life right now.
	She has got so many privileges that a lot of women in her position may not have.
	So I think there's a certain level of grace that she's not moving with, and that Princess Diana had so much grace.
	And I wish that that was, you know, kept up.
	So you're not in favor of the relationship?
	No, I don't mind it.
	I just, I wish that she was, I guess, a little bit more grateful and had a little bit more honor and didn't seem to be complaining because that's what people see her as is complaining.
	Okay.
	In response to your body count objection, I always find it interesting because women have an issue with a lot of things that hold them accountable.
	And I say all the time, women are just, they just don't like anything that's disadvantageous to them.
	And when it comes to body count, you're essentially holding a woman accountable.
	So in what world does quantifiable history not matter?
	Credit score matters.
	School transcripts matters because these things indicate your patterns of behavior or they tell a story about what you did in the past and what you're more likely to do in the future.
	So I guess my question is: why do you have an issue with the fact that men don't want women who have a higher body count?
	What's the issue with that?
	I don't personally have an issue with it.
	Again, I'm just more of like, that's my personal preference.
	Accountability donated $69.
	My friend pays it.
	Three days later, while celebrating his life, the GF asked me to sleep with her that night.
	I was sick.
	If it helps women not feel negative emotions, any action permissible.
	Damn, that's crazy accountability.
	Shit.
	That's wild.
	Okay, to answer your question, I don't care what someone's body count is, male or female.
	If you say, I don't want a woman who slept with more than 10 people, I'm not going to judge you.
	That's what you want.
	That's fine.
	I just think that if a woman maybe was in the industry, you know, and then she comes out of it and she's like, I really wish I hadn't done that.
	And there's remorse.
	I'm not saying you should forgive her.
	I'm just saying that me, and it's not even a forgiving thing.
	It's like, okay, if you regret it, then that's okay.
	That's good in a way.
	Okay, but we're talking about dating here.
	So it seems to me like you're saying that men should perhaps consider overlooking it.
	I think in rare cases.
	I think she's saying that like I think she's saying that if a woman decides to change and she decides to move her life in a new direction, then her actions and what she did in the past, if a man chooses not to forgive her, that's his prerogative, and that's perfectly okay.
	But it doesn't mean that she is, as a whole, 100% unforgivable.
	Somebody can still love her.
	Somebody can still love her.
	But I don't consider it a matter of forgiveness.
	I just consider it a matter of risk assessment.
	Because, of course, she should take accountability, won't it?
	Of course, people can change, but is there anything about this woman's tendencies to behave in certain ways in the past that may come up in our relationship?
	You know, will she potentially revert back to her old ways with me?
	And if that's what she's doing, will she cheat on me?
	It depends, like, if she did that while she was in a relationship or if she was just single for a long time.
	You know, if she has a history of cheating, then sure, I would think that as a man, considering her to be in a relationship, why he would feel that she could repeat those patterns.
	I think promiscuity in any shape, way, or form is not good.
	But I think to her point was that if a woman does decide to have a recourse and completely change her life, then we're just saying as a whole, she can still be deserving of a good man.
	What if I told you that was me?
	What if I told you that my body count was well above 25, well above 50, and I have found someone who has accepted me for the fact that I have done professional porn, for the fact that I have done OnlyFans.
	That does not diminish my value.
	My body count does not diminish what I am able to provide outside of that.
	So I am that woman that y'all are speaking of, and I am deserving of love.
	And I have found someone who is going to accept me for who I am and accept my past and look beyond that because they themselves have had their fair share of things.
	But he's in the industry too, right?
	Or he was.
	And now we're done.
	Now we're exclusive.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	So he probably understands.
	Yeah.
	But really, if the body count is a concern for you, then to that extreme, then you shouldn't even consider that woman.
	Just move on, go to the house.
	Find a woman in your wheelhouse.
	And that's why I said at the beginning of a relationship, make sure your core values are exactly the same or very close.
	I think the thing when it comes to the body count thing is that a lot of women want to give pushback instead of saying, oh, hey, that's just your preference.
	You're entitled to your preference.
	Then they want to start shaming men for those preferences by saying, you're insecure.
	I don't know.
	Or even.
	Yeah, a lot of women within the city.
	That's insecure.
	Why should you care about body count?
	It's in her past.
	The past doesn't matter.
	Then you start trying to make argumentation for it.
	That's when men are going to provide counter-argumentation and say, well, actually, here's ABCD, you know, XYZ.
	Here's the reasons why it's no.
	Men shouldn't.
	And actually, and I think, honestly, on an individual level, if you want to, like, as a woman, you want to do it.
	Don't really give a fuck.
	I mean, I don't think it's a great way to move.
	But like, if I'm going to give advice to a guy, I think it's sub-optimal to date a woman with a promiscuous past or who's who has a high body count.
	I think accountability is extremely important.
	Everybody should take accountability.
	Like if a man was in a relationship with a woman and cheated on her, I think he should tell his new girlfriend that he cheated on his ex.
	And I think everybody should take accountability for what they've done.
	Right.
	Because you need to have that.
	And body counts allowed to be a preference, I think.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's all going to be a preference.
	Why are you talking about the people you slept with in your new relationship?
	I think just if it's one person or two people.
	Some people value that.
	Some people do value that.
	I just say the pushback, I think, in general, is just like starting off a conversation.
	Like, I want to know all the people you slept with.
	Well, it doesn't happen like that necessarily.
	It usually, yeah, it could happen, but sometimes I think when you get deep into a relationship with somebody, like I would tell the person that I'm like actually considering being in a relationship with, like, this is my body count, you know, if it comes up.
	You can make this interesting.
	I think it's totally fine.
	The guy on the first date, within 10 minutes of meeting you, he can ask you what your body count is.
	I don't want to know that.
	I don't want to know that.
	No problems with that.
	And you guys might object to it.
	You might think it's not like smooth or whatever.
	It's a bit like kind of socially uncalibrated.
	In today's climate, I mean, I feel like that's fair.
	Yeah.
	Bro, if it's a deal breaker for me, wouldn't you rather, instead of me like, you know, doing the socially, like, you know, the socially calibrated thing, wouldn't you rather, if it's a deal breaker for me, just ask you up front as soon as possible?
	If it's a deal breaker, I ask it.
	If it's over the body count, I could be like, oh, hey, listen, it was really nice meeting you.
	And also, you don't want to waste your time.
	And she talked about even before, bro, I'll ask before the date.
	I just think it's bad form to be asking about a person's sexual past.
	If that's your preference and you want a woman with a low body count, I think there's ways to ask her.
	Well, I'll tell you this much, right?
	If she has a low body count, she's probably not going to object to answering the question because she's not embarrassed of her low body count.
	If she has a high body count, I don't want to date her anyways.
	If she feels a certain type of way about anyone, don't care.
	You don't ask me.
	Don't care.
	Marry me, maybe, donated $69.
	Lady Welsh, I have never heard a voice that's soothing.
	I feel at peace when you speak.
	Do you know how to do ASMR?
	Oh, wow.
	She's got the, maybe she's got an ASMR voice.
	I don't know.
	Say every night.
	She's flattered.
	I'm so flattered.
	She's so flattered.
	So going around the table really quick, do you object to men caring about a woman's body count?
	If it's coming from a place of judgment, yes.
	How about it's coming from a place of I'm trying to qualify or disqualify this person from like as potential partner?
	That's judgment.
	Oh, okay.
	Is it?
	Or is it discernment?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It is discernment, but also judgment.
	Because you are therefore like, okay, she has been with 10 plus men.
	I am judging these past actions, and I am choosing to see that as a high-risk person.
	But when y'all say judgment, do you mean, you know, you're a bad person?
	because I don't we're not saying you're a bad person for it when women say judge they often mean but when you say suboptimal that is judgment but But the best way to predict future is to look at past.
	Look at the patterns.
	Let me ask you a question on the sub-optimal.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Stop.
	Let me ask you a question on the suboptimal thing, right?
	Is it possible for a man in any realm to be a sub-optimal partner in certain realms that women will assess a guy on?
	Sure.
	Like all the bumble dates you passed, all the bumble profiles.
	Yeah.
	That was judgment, wasn't it?
	There was judgment.
	But I don't want to be with someone who's going to judge me based off of that.
	I want you to judge me based on how I'm interacting with you, how I receive you.
	How tall are you?
	5'7.
	Would you date a guy who's 5'4?
	Sure.
	If you fulfilled me in the ways that I needed.
	What would those ways be?
	Emotionally.
	What are the other ways?
	Sexually.
	Okay, what if a guy was not so great in bed?
	And he's, let's say, he's suboptimal in bed.
	Would you still date him?
	I'm a sexual person.
	That's something that I need fulfilled.
	And if he is not able to fulfill that, then it's a no.
	And I'm a man who prefers women with a low body count.
	And if she's not able to fulfill that, then it's a no.
	Okay, security disagree.
	Just preferences.
	It's honestly a preference.
	But why is it okay for women to disqualify men based on he's suboptimal, his height suboptimal, his looks are sub-optimal?
	I don't call men suboptimal.
	I say either you check my boxes, you fulfill me, or you don't.
	It's the words, Brian.
	Remember, we're women.
	Like words are a big thing with us.
	Right, let's go with behavior.
	But suboptimal is a totally benign term.
	When it comes to dating, it's a very connotation out of it.
	Yeah, it's not like that.
	Suboptimal seems so.
	Suboptimal is absolutely benign.
	Yeah, it's a neutral connotation.
	Yeah, I don't think there's anything.
	There's nothing positive or negative about it.
	Yeah.
	Just suboptimal.
	It's just suboptimal.
	Suboptimal.
	Yeah.
	Women in words.
	Women in words.
	There's nothing wrong with it.
	Like, there's nothing wrong with a guy who likes blondes.
	There's nothing wrong with a guy who likes brunettes.
	Like, there's nothing wrong with it.
	I think she made a point earlier that it's important in the beginning to meet someone who has the same world standing as you and takes those boxes.
	And that kind of goes back to all of this.
	Here's a question, though, right?
	What about a guy who, like, would you date a guy of any income bracket?
	Any income bracket.
	So I'm talking like makes $10,000 a year.
	I have.
	You have.
	But do you want family?
	You want kids?
	I think so.
	In order to, you know, give your kids a good life, you need to make a decent income at least, right?
	Yeah.
	So probably, I would imagine part of the calculus, at least for you, in terms of finding a suitable mate, suitable partner, is does he make a certain amount of money?
	I'm not saying he has to be rich, but.
	No, especially in America, that is a huge factor.
	I feel like in the UK, it is a little bit different.
	Right.
	It is more socialist.
	The government takes care of a lot more things.
	Sure.
	So, you can date someone who is technically working class, as they say, and you're still able to support a family, whereas out here, that is.
	So, you don't care about a man's income at all?
	He could make zero?
	I do know.
	I didn't in the past.
	Okay, so, but currently, you do, right?
	So, would you disqualify a man for who example makes $30,000 a year?
	At this point in my life, I would.
	Let me just ask: what's the bare minimum for you?
	Right now, maybe 80.
	80,000?
	With potential for them to grow, get promoted.
	Oh, you'd want them to make more down the road.
	Well, let me ask you a question because we were talking about past.
	And then, what about you?
	Do you have like I feel like you can be at a certain point, but as long as you have this kind of trajectory, that's what's important.
	So, earning potential.
	I would take you at your 10K if you have ambition and drive to go up.
	Well, okay, what would that over after a five-year period?
	What would that have to be at?
	Then we'll have to talk.
	We'll have to have a very important conversation because obviously, you don't value me or our life together if you're not striving to increase our quality of life.
	Sure.
	But so, do you have a sense of a number?
	Like how much the guy needs to make or will make when you're in your planning to have a family period, I guess?
	Yeah.
	What's the minimum?
	Well over 100K.
	Well over $100,000.
	Okay.
	So I have a quote.
	So you guys mentioned something.
	Well, it's in the past.
	Well, women, they make poor decisions in the past.
	They've slept with a bunch of people, whatever.
	Well, what about the man who made poor decisions when it came to his education and his career in his past?
	And, you know.
	Then what?
	Okay, so he actions and behaviors in his past have either led to him earning below what you desire in a partner, or because of those actions, even his future trajectory, there's just no way he's ever going to go on to make more than 80K or more than 100K.
	It's difficult.
	Do you disqualify him?
	Yes.
	If he has no desire for change, that is the disqualifying.
	Yeah, but not everybody gets to be the rock star.
	Some people are going to be working.
	There's going to be men who are working average jobs.
	Most don't.
	Most men are going to be working the average job.
	They're not going to be making 80K.
	They're not going to be making over 100K.
	And there's women that will accept that.
	Settle for that.
	Right.
	There's women that also haven't made the best decisions in their lives.
	So I think that they're going to be at the same quality of life as them.
	Right.
	Right.
	But I mean, just using the logic here, it's like, well, it's in their past.
	You should just forgive their past mistakes when it came to their educational achievement or their career path.
	You should just accept.
	You should still date them, even though they're not meeting your standard.
	No, you could as long as they're trying to move forward with their life.
	I really don't think women date men based off their potential.
	They kind of want a man that's already like at our age.
	Yeah, at a younger age, no, it's potential for sure.
	I also don't think there's anything wrong with having judgments.
	I mean, like what you said, like what you said, like we all want the, how did you word it? The best case scenario.
	Yeah, we all want to get the best.
	Yeah, we all want the best case scenario.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
	I mean, what do you think is the whole basis of dating apps?
	Anybody who's ever had a dating app, all you're doing is judging all day.
	Yeah.
	I've never had a dating app.
	I prefer things organic, but at the same time, like, am I picky-choosy?
	Absolutely.
	Do I feel there's anything wrong with that?
	Absolutely not.
	And the caveat is: if you can attract it, a lot of people forget that.
	I mean, you can have standards, you can have preferences based on what you can attract.
	So, if I can attract virgins and women with low body count, then I'm going to develop a preference for that.
	It'd be a little different if you have a preference for something you can't obtain, but if you can attract what you want, if you can attract your preferred preference, then you can discriminate against those who don't fit it.
	And also, like, negativity always pulls you down.
	It's very hard to uplift somebody, but negativity always wants you down with them.
	So, like, I feel like it'd be hard for me to be with a guy who has very low ambition or isn't like doing a whole lot with his life because that wouldn't motivate me.
	And I need somebody who motivates me to be better.
	Like, we can motivate each other.
	We can challenge each other to be more successful.
	And I just, I just couldn't be with a guy who just doesn't have the same ambition.
	I agree.
	I feel like a man's role as well is to help elevate a woman.
	Yeah.
	A man's role is to elevate a woman?
	A part of a man's role is to help elevate a woman.
	In which way, though?
	If she has goals and dreams and aspirations, they're there to support each other.
	Wait, when you say she has goals and dreams and aspirations, are you talking about career, economic, life in general?
	So, what's it like?
	Using you as an example, what's one of your dreams and aspirations?
	Aspirations.
	I would love to travel all over the world.
	You know?
	And I would love a partner that also wants that same who can pay for it?
	No.
	Who can fund it?
	No, that has the same, that has the same kind of direction of where they want to spend their money.
	Our money.
	His money?
	Our money.
	But you said, like, help.
	Is there any component of this that's like career-focused?
	Yeah, that can be too.
	Motivation.
	It's not very traditional of you.
	Why?
	I can't have a job as well and be traditional.
	Do you well too?
	If he's if he wants me, if he's capable of providing everything and he wants me to be a stay-at-home mom, I would do that.
	I think it's tough in today's economy.
	I think a lot of us, like a lot of us, you know, though we have traditional trades.
	In today's economy, it's very hard to like guard and cook and clean, watch over the kid.
	Let's say he's he just is just capable that you're able to stay home.
	He's not insanely rich.
	You might actually struggle a little bit, but he wants you to stay home and take care of the kids.
	If we are married and that's what he wants and I trust him, then I would do it.
	Okay, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	Final thing here on the body count question.
	We have two people up from the table, though.
	I'll come back to it in just a sec.
	Real Trump donated $69 just to enlighten the women.
	I'm an HVAC technician in Nevada and I make $150,000 a year.
	I see women overlook all these good men who are in the trades having no clue how good they make money could have.
	They can make good money.
	HVAC.
	Hell yeah, brother.
	Yep.
	Install that fucking air conditioning.
	Kill it.
	Kill that shit, Real Trump.
	And he's in Nevada.
	Plumbers need love.
	There's a lot there.
	He's doing.
	He's.
	Oh my God.
	You're doing.
	Thank you for keeping things cool.
	Cool in that Las Vegas heat.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Going to you.
	Got some notes for you.
	And then I actually have to go back to Jade.
	Do we have a dis for some reason?
	I seem to recall.
	Were we arguing about plastic surgery when you were last on?
	No.
	I don't think so.
	We argued about it.
	We argued about makeup.
	Wait, were you?
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, I took off my makeup.
	Remember?
	That's so hard.
	Wait, did you say.
	Wait.
	You argued about a few things.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Do you have any plastic surgery?
	Yes.
	What?
	Breast augmentation.
	Oh, okay.
	Who was the girl?
	Some girl came on the show and had clearly fake boobs.
	That's the only thing you can't work for in the gym.
	I'm sorry.
	Clearly fake boobs.
	And she's like, I don't have fake boobs.
	Oh, that wasn't you.
	That probably happens all the time.
	No, I am not.
	No, it was not Brie.
	Well, it was Brie, but there was a different.
	I'm thinking of somebody different.
	Okay.
	Going back to Jade really quick.
	You did say I'd like to discuss women's expectations and how it's unhealthy and unsustainable.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	What would you like to know?
	Oh, just, I mean, did you want to expand on that?
	You said women's expectations and how it's unhealthy and unsustainable.
	Do I think that women's expectations are too high today?
	Yes.
	Do I also think that men's are?
	Yes.
	Because we're all kind of wanting this beautiful place where it's like, you know, women are traditional and men make all this money, can support a family.
	And that might have been the case, you know, 100 years ago.
	Curtis Underscore donated $69.
	Oh, my God.
	Brit.
	How do Brits view sex?
	In Afghanistan, we had Brits on our base, and the Brit males and females showered together.
	Also, the Brit chicks would sunbathe with their tops off in front of everyone.
	Oh, my God.
	Shot in the Dark donated $69.
	Lady Welsh, I would pay you in diamonds to hear you read on Audible.
	I feel like there's going to be a bunch of.
	I'm going to think about it.
	I know you had to sit here and listen to this toxic masculinity rant here, or toxic feminity, I guess.
	But, you know, I think some good things could come from this.
	Maybe you're going to, an agency's going to reach out.
	They're going to be like, we need you to do voiceover stuff.
	You're going to have a budding career in the VO for like animated films.
	Like the children's films, like with the Pixar, that shit.
	Voice over anima adverts.
	Anima?
	Anima adverts.
	Oh, no, it's talking like the doctor before you take it.
	3D.
	You might shit yourself to death.
	Should we?
	We should have you read something.
	That could be funny.
	Start your own.
	The question: how do Brits have sex?
	We don't say we're coming.
	We say, oh, I'm arriving.
	Just kidding, we don't say that.
	That's a really bad joke.
	I'm so sorry.
	It was good.
	I liked it.
	It was good.
	Did you want to continue on with the expectations, or was it, did you pretty much make your point?
	We're living in a modern world and everything's going to shit.
	Everything's going to shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So, going around the table on the body count question, some of you said body count doesn't matter, shouldn't matter.
	What's your body count?
	God, you tried to get me on this last time.
	Did you answer it last time?
	I said undisclosed.
	Did you give a range?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I said, oh, you were like, oh, how many?
	Pin it down.
	I was like, over a million.
	And then you were like, oh, no, no, no, no.
	I don't know.
	I think it's like 8 to 16.
	Okay.
	8 to 16?
	Yeah, what counts as a body?
	An orgasm?
	P and the V. Yeah, P and the V. P and the V. If you got away, guys.
	You're only counting if you've climaxed.
	No, that is probably like two.
	Probably like two.
	Just the tip.
	It's, hold on.
	It does include.
	Just a tip.
	Just for a second.
	Just to see how it feels.
	I don't know.
	Like eight.
	Range.
	Do you want to do a range?
	Yeah, eight to sixteen.
	Okay, sure.
	Same answer as last time.
	I'm not sharing.
	I just want to respect myself and my partner and not say anything.
	Do you guys want to do range?
	No.
	Or above, under, like under 10?
	I'm not doing a range.
	Okay, all right.
	That's fine.
	Just figured I'd give you that option.
	I'll do an audible book for you instead.
	Oh, I should have had you go first.
	Okay, let's hear it, Lauren.
	I'm at like probably 1,1050.
	Because, I mean, I've been doing this a long time over like 10 years.
	So, like, but the last time I was on the show, I said 1,000, and then I went on another show, and then I was like 1,100, and so now I'm 1,150.
	Okay, it just keeps going to know me through all of these.
	Keep safe.
	Keep smiling.
	Energizer pussy.
	I appreciate the energizer pussy.
	You need to clip this and put it on your Instagram, Lauren.
	He just gave you an endorsement.
	Yeah.
	Energizer pussy.
	The energizer.
	Damn.
	And you like, you work on a bunny ranch.
	I do.
	Well, we work on a bunny ranch.
	Energize a pussy.
	Keeps going and going and going.
	Oh, whoa.
	That is good.
	Yeah.
	I know I should be a marketing.
	So now that she's revealed it, are you guys more comfortable or no?
	The way I was raised.
	Okay.
	No, that's fine.
	I'm totally fine.
	No, I'm just thinking like, damn, are you tired?
	Yeah.
	Hungry.
	No.
	Okay.
	Like, does it ever get tiring, do you think?
	No, and I think if it did, then I shouldn't be in that intimate industry anymore.
	Because then that's when it becomes not good.
	Okay.
	So you still find enjoyment?
	I will not disclose.
	Yeah, between me and my husband.
	Ladies.
	We're going to do a segment called Area.
	Hold my hand, donated $69.
	Lady Welsh, if your current man fucks it up, there's no other voice I'd love to hear nagging about the thing you mentioned eight times that I keep saying I'll get to later.
	Oh, I love that, actually.
	Hold my hand.
	What was going to be later?
	Curtis Underscorle on underscore donated $69.
	Brian, if you went to prison for five years and could get a pardon if you choose one of session three-way with Layla and Brie with water sports, two, take your chances in your sentence with a life of celly.
	You always ask.
	Yeah, I'm gonna.
	Yeah, I'd rather not be in prison for five years.
	Yes, I'll have water sports.
	I wouldn't sleep with these women under normal circumstances, but yes, I would sleep with Layla and Bree.
	If it meant sparing me a five-year prison sentence, I would probably do far worse than having a three-way with them.
	So I wouldn't do it just if you asked me to do it.
	I wouldn't do it.
	Just for funsies?
	No prison sentence involved, but yeah, if the.
	Wait, oh, going around the table.
	Do you consider yourself traditional?
	Yes or no?
	No.
	It hurt her to say it.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Is a cowgirl traditional?
	I'm like a cowgirl, like Wild West cowgirl.
	Is that like a sexual position joke?
	No.
	I'm just a cowgirl.
	Oh, okay.
	So, like, but not like a housewife, but like a cowgirl housewife.
	I'm going to say no for you.
	I'll just answer.
	I think no.
	That's good.
	No.
	Yes.
	Sorry, I messed that up.
	Did you say you said yes, traditional?
	Yes.
	I was going to say, probably not, but maybe by some people's field trad.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	Holy crap.
	Body count in the thousands.
	She's seen more weener than the Oscar Maya Corporation.
	How on earth were you not brought into the show in a wheelchair?
	She has a crutch.
	Yeah, I do have a crutch.
	I do a crit.
	She can't walk.
	She has a cane.
	Yeah.
	It just, you know, the feeling and everything.
	Definitely hobbled in here. Good times.
	Good times.
	She's a good sport.
	Good sport.
	Good sport.
	Wait, so traditional, traditional, traditional?
	You three?
	We're going to do a segment called Are They Traditional?
	We must look at their Instagram profiles.
	Nick, if you can get that pulled up.
	Oh, great.
	Well, while he does that, while he does that, let me see if I have any other notes here.
	We have.
	I'm not naked.
	I'm not naked.
	Brit was the no-show.
	Loose pussy energy donated $69.
	Brian multiplied by three, and that's the real number.
	I keep forgetting.
	The audacity of these three 04s to expect the guy to take the bullet.
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Also, my bad Nick.
	I got you, bro.
	Hashtag free nick.
	Who's Nick?
	Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Multiplied by three, that's the real number.
	Free Nick.
	Hashtag FreeNick.
	Oh.
	So it's Ashley, Jordan, Jade.
	Let's get their Instagrams going.
	And then permission.
	Okay, I hit most of my stuff.
	You got it?
	You got it for?
	Yeah.
	Uh.
	We need, don't pull up Ashley's yet, though, because she's not at the table.
	So let's do Jordan.
	Then Jade, then Ashley, when she's back.
	And then that's pretty much it for my notes.
	I have maybe one or two more things, but.
	You ready?
	Yes, sir.
	We have Baby Jay Jordan.
	So the game is, for the chat, traditional or not traditional based off the Instagram.
	Whoa, those who are.
	Curtis Underscore on underscore donated $69.
	Ladies who here would go on a date with Brian to the Sizzler.
	Brit Lady, sing fake plastic trees.
	What's that radio head?
	No.
	What's sick?
	What's that?
	Fake plastic trees song.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know why they want me to do that.
	I'm sorry.
	Who's the band that Oasis?
	Is that an Oasis song?
	Is it?
	Do you know Oasis?
	I know Oasis.
	Do you know Wonder Wall?
	Can you sing Wonder Wall?
	Will you sing it with me?
	No.
	Yeah, you start then.
	Let's do it.
	I'll do it if there's music.
	I'll know the lyrics.
	We can't play the music, but we just have to.
	Can anybody do the instrumental?
	How do we get on this?
	I don't know.
	I feel like I was doing the instrumental.
	Oh, do it.
	Do it.
	Oh, fuck.
	Into the mic?
	Go ahead.
	Actually, I think it's just the melody.
	Okay, that works.
	I don't know if you've ever heard this song.
	we're gonna sing it yeah come on i don't know the lyrics I'm just.
	Anybody feels the way I do about you now?
	Right.
	Firing your heart is out.
	There we go.
	Oh, I've got some good singing.
	I never really have to.
	Okay.
	Sorry, that is crazy.
	No, it's a cappella group or whatever.
	There you go.
	Join us now.
	We should all start a band.
	Let's continue with the traditional.
	All right.
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Is she traditional?
	There's the hubby.
	Is she tradition?
	You can keep going.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is she traditional?
	So it's just all you're doing is traditional or not traditional in the chat.
	Traditional, not traditional.
	Then we're going to move over to Jade.
	Yep.
	Here's Jade.
	Traditional.
	We got a bathing suit photo.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I have been a model for ten years.
	All right.
	Here's some photo shoots.
	Beautiful.
	All right.
	There's Shidwig.
	All right.
	There she is.
	Just a little slower, but keep going.
	Okay, a little lingerie.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's my Biden video.
	All right.
	That's you crying for a film.
	Yeah.
	And then.
	All right.
	What do you guys think?
	Traditional or not traditional?
	No, I know you guys.
	Oh, there's a little lingerie one.
	Okay.
	Does it change if they're like employed?
	You know, like they're doing this as like paid photo shoots?
	I feel like it's high fashion for work and not for glamour and vanity.
	So I've been a fashion model for 10 years.
	I've been signed in like Europe.
	I'm signed with four agencies right now.
	And I have worked for very high-end clients.
	And that really is like my work page that I just turned into.
	Usain Laurent, you know, Ugg, Hervé Leja.
	Okay.
	Kylie Cosmetics.
	They were like, oh, you're pale, so we're going to give you bone and stone.
	You've done anything for like foot locker?
	No, I did do Zappos.
	They're in Baker.
	Zappos.
	Yeah, they do like sneakers and stuff.
	And I found out that someone, I have a stalker, right?
	And they've taken my photos from every photo shoot I've ever done.
	That's weird.
	And they've uploaded it to a foot website.
	What?
	And they zoom in on the feet.
	Wait, what is that website called?
	It's WikiFeet.
	I'm on that shit too.
	Wait, genuinely?
	Yeah, some weirdo put my feet on there.
	Isn't it so weird?
	They take all your ID pictures.
	It's kind of funny.
	And you can find a profile of anybody.
	And it's just like you casually, like, you're eating a pop score or something.
	You're like, why are you looking at my feet?
	Shit's weird, bruv.
	Shit is weird.
	That's weird.
	I'm on that shit.
	What's your rating?
	Is it pretty good?
	No, mine's pretty good.
	Three and a half.
	And someone said my arches are mid.
	And I was like, oh God.
	Fuck.
	You didn't know you were insecure about something until somebody pointed out.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with my feet?
	You're literally a model.
	All right.
	And then we're finally going to get to the great Ashley.
	I don't have that many pictures of it.
	So this is Ashley.
	So for the chat, traditional or not traditional?
	I can fix her.
	Let's see.
	Bikini photo.
	Booty.
	A little.
	I don't know.
	It's the little sheer dress thing.
	Wait, click on the bikini one in the laying down one.
	Click on it.
	See the other ones?
	The other arrow?
	Okay, basically the same one.
	Okay, exile that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I mean, it's not the worst I've ever seen.
	Oh, it's not bad.
	I'm really shy.
	Wait, do the hot tub one next?
	Okay, all right, okay.
	All right, X.
	No, that was in my case.
	Do the, you know, the one, the selfie in the middle there next to the hot tub.
	You're actually looking at me.
	Okay, that's you in the water.
	Okay.
	All right, look, it's not the worst.
	Wait, click that the last one.
	Oh, just, here's my butt.
	That's not my butt.
	It's like legs.
	Yeah, you just, you randomly turned around and it was.
	Oh, twice.
	That's not your butt.
	That's legs, too.
	To be fair, she's wearing like mom jeans.
	Yeah, exactly.
	To be fair.
	You can come.
	Curtis Sundas Corley on underscore donated $69.
	Brian, it's one year with a cellmate who is known as a notorious prison daddy lifer.
	Or Layla, Brie, and Nicole, Mud and Water Sports.
	And you have to breed Layla, and she announces you're expecting.
	Yeah, I'll still I'll still get with the girls like I'm not a year in the in the can is not I'm not doing that.
	Bro, yeah, I'll do, bro, you give me something worse, bro.
	Give me something worse.
	This is too easy.
	Yeah, that's pretty easy.
	Give me something tough, man.
	Oh, like, I don't know.
	I got a prison or something.
	She's got HIV.
	Give me that.
	God, I was thinking, like, tarantula.
	Like, eat 30 tarantulas or something.
	Oh, that's a tough talk.
	Yeah, I mean, I'll do the tarantulas and that.
	Give me something tough, buddy.
	Give me something tough.
	These are layups.
	These are too easy.
	All right.
	I think, did I get through all my notes?
	Let me just double check.
	And then we'll do a few more things.
	We'll have to do it next show, I think.
	Just remind me what were they?
	So there's that video from the dude, the view thing, and then the BBL video.
	And the reaction to the pictures.
	The tattoos and then the.
	We'll save it.
	We'll save all that stuff for the next show.
	It's already getting a bit late here, so I don't want to belabor.
	Yeah, I mean, I have like one or two more questions, but then we'll wrap this up.
	So just want to make sure I got to everybody's notes here.
	I want to be fair.
	Okay.
	Let me just double check here, boys.
	Jordan?
	We hit.
	Okay, we got Ashley.
	Guys, we are going to enter the chaos realm of the whatever podcast here in just a moment here.
	Prepare for the chaos.
	I'm about to change this shit.
	One sec, boys.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	So here's what we're doing.
	For the next like five or ten minutes of the show, TTS is now at 20.
	If any of you want to.
	It's ready.
	It's ready, boys.
	Okay, it's at 20.
	If you guys want to get a message in, guys, try to keep it to a statement or like quick yes or no questions if you're going to ask a question.
	Try to keep it to a question, though, if you can, for the final few minutes here of the show while we descend into absolute whatever chaos.
	It's the final countdown.
	Let me do a couple adjustments.
	Q, do you have a question while we're underscore donated $20?
	Thank you, brother.
	Okay, the same, but you let Layla sit on your face, giving you genital herpes on your face and in your nostrils.
	Crabs in your beard and hair, and the obsession has the highest viewing public ever.
	Or what?
	You forgot the like what?
	A year in jail.
	A year?
	Yeah.
	Or a year in jail.
	I think I took a lot of time.
	Carolina girl donated $20.
	Good time.
	Or let me on.
	Woman tipping hand.
	Three summer whatever or let me on.
	Oh, are you the person I banned in the chat?
	Or I blocked?
	Chinese motherfucker donated $20.
	What do you call a small horse in Chinese?
	Tiny Bony, what do you call a friend in Chinese?
	Mine Igar, what do you call a 304?
	Oh my god, hold on.
	Wait, it's fine.
	It's fine.
	Guys, what the fuck?
	Bro, I gotta.
	I'm gonna.
	If you're doing anything, like, I'm gonna skip it if you guys do any fucking like racist.
	Guys, come on, don't get me.
	Disavow.
	Let me just say that.
	Disavow the Brian's underscore feeder underscore Leo Leo donated $20.
	Hey, hey, that's not fair.
	Rahima, give that horse back its hair.
	Wow, that was Shakespearean poetry.
	That was beautiful.
	He spelled Rahima wrong.
	Learn how to spell baby.
	Bear in the forest donated $20.
	As a bear, I'd rather be stuck with a random guy than these 304s.
	Bear in the forest, are you a black bear?
	Are you a grizzly bear?
	Sun bear.
	Would a bear rather be with like would you rather question to the bear?
	Would you rather be with stuck in the forest with a woman or with what's what predates on a bear?
	Nothing?
	Are they apex?
	Apex.
	Okay, unless it's a sun.
	You're grizzly bear?
	No, no, no.
	Polar bear.
	Would you rather be on an iceberg with a woman or like go into the water and there's a shark?
	Jess Gerald donated $20.
	Lady Welsh, I'm about to fall asleep.
	Will you sing me to sleep between TTS donations?
	I mean, if they come directly to me, we can talk.
	Brian underscore Atlas donated $20.
	Ladies, I'm a little shy, but you don't dancer Curtis underscore Leon underscores question.
	Who would go to the Sizzler with Brian?
	I mean, me.
	I'm so toxic tonight.
	Underscore skeet underscore skeet underscore 696,969 donated $20.
	From the window to the wall till the sweat drop down my balls till all these biches crawl till all.
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	Skeet skeet like a little chunk loose pussy.
	Energy donated, twenty dollars.
	Yo listen up.
	Here's the story about a little guy that lives in a blue blind all night and everything he sees is just blue, like him inside and outside.
	That's a good.
	That's a banger.
	That's a banger brother.
	That is a banger.
	Ladies, is there a break here?
	Is this a break?
	Uh he, one of the chatters going around the table.
	It might take us a while to get to it.
	Would you, assuming you're single, would you date me?
	That's the question.
	Is that what a sizzler means?
	Would you go on a date with me, the sizzler?
	I guess sizzler is a restaurant.
	Um, didn't they go out of business?
	I don't know.
	Would you?
	Yeah, if you were single?
	Bear in the forest donated twenty dollars.
	As a bear, i'd rather take a bullet to save a shock than take a bullet for the women on the panel also.
	T s t s sht free nets.
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	Nick Quadman 808, donated twenty dollars.
	Lady Welsh, feel flattered, you're a catch Dankishon Dunkish.
	That's beautiful.
	Do you speak German?
	DEI underscore for underscore big underscore labia donated $20.
	There's one girl per panel that is gorgeous, Ashley.
	You immediately wonder, why not married?
	Insufferable worldview/slash expectations.
	That's why.
	Girl in blue from LastPod was the same.
	Passport Bro 26.
	Real Trump donated $20.
	Brian couldn't bring myself to send this on the last show, but a friend of mine said every time you bring on Gaul or call all he can think is that two guys could be in a threesome with him and never meet.
	Loose pussy energy donated $20.
	Blew his house with a blue little window and a blue Corvette and everything is blue for him and himself and everybody around because he ain't got nobody to listen.
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	Why should women not have drivers licenses?
	There's no freeway between the kitchen and the bedroom.
	Oh my gosh.
	This is I like all these jokes.
	It's funny.
	The rabbit hole donated $20.
	You fucking simps, you fucking whores, fuck you, fuck you.
	I fucking love bears.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Sub-citizen donated $20.
	Can we ask the Brit to speak more on the women can do whatever they want yet?
	She wants to be traditional.
	One of the main tenets of this podcast is that that attitude is the problem with dating today.
	Cherry donated $20.
	Brian, have you ever cried over a woman?
	Quick yellow, quick answer.
	And sir, singular tier.
	Yeah, right.
	Singular tier.
	Think she knows donated $20.
	Fuck fuck, fuck guys.
	Go to twitch.tv, slash whatever.
	Drop us a prime sub if you want twitch.tv.
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	Be honest, donated twenty dollars.
	Ashley literally left the table and grabbed her phone and deleted photos from her insta before you guys pulled it off.
	LMFAO, be honest, did you?
	No, I went to go grab chips because I'm starving.
	Anon donated $20.
	Women telling you to share your negative emotions with them is terrible advice.
	The moment you share any fears insecurities, weaknesses or anything else negative, they will use it against you.
	Don't think.
	Yeah, you shouldn't be.
	Phone donated twenty dollars.
	Question, for who would you date?
	An ugly fat, bald guy earning minimum wage but willing to take a bullet for you, or a super handsome, rich man that would not take a bullet for you?
	Uh, show of hands for the first one.
	Show of hands for the second one.
	Wait, sorry.
	He's a minimum wage guy.
	49 minutes oh, oh Underscore.
	Wise MAN 2024 donated 20 boys.
	You're six moss in the slammer with a smoking ladyboy getting the best bjs of your life or an all-weekend threesome with of girls and, but you're only getting pegged, aka the peggy bought A Ladyboy.
	Junior donated $20 versus Singular T versus the OF.
	Is that why you stopped going down under?
	Dad says, hi, I stopped going down in the Bush during the Bush administration.
	It was towards the end of the Bush administration, just never been a fan of it.
	I'm a fan of pussy, though big Labia Matter.
	Omkit's my favorite kick slash OF model.
	Love your work.
	I would pick to to, to the.
	Oh, there's too many coming in Minnesota.
	Wise Man, I think that I gotta pick the number one.
	SIM donated $20.
	I love this show.
	Keep it coming very much, thank you.
	Thank you, I appreciate it.
	Thank you for the support.
	Brian's number one, SIMP.
	Thank you, thank you very much 11.
	Second Eclipse donated twenty dollars.
	What do you call a bear with no teeth?
	A gummy bear jokes?
	I never heard that one.
	It's good.
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	That is a dad.
	Thank you, Eclipse D.
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	Big Underscore, Labia donated twenty dollars.
	Brian, come work out with me.
	You will have abs like the pretty Latina girl.
	After we fix your body, we can search for the most beautiful Labia on earth and hold hands and run into the rainbow of plenty.
	Hashtag, Small Women donated twenty dollars.
	What do you call a hundred black men after their name?
	Sorry, I had to skip it, bro.
	I'm sorry, I got it.
	Bro, you can't be guys.
	Disavow disavowing disavow, block.
	You Brian, how are you so damn cute?
	I literally lol for all your jokes.
	Smiley face, thank you very much, thank you.
	Thank you, his girlfriend.
	Is this a man?
	Are you a dude?
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	Refined Randy donated twenty dollars a row.
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	Vince Vaughan donated twenty dollars.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
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	Love Wedding Crashers one of the best good movie.
	Loose Pussy Energy donated twenty dollars.
	You let him hit it raw.
	You didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you're a single mom.
	Now you're a single mom.
	You say, i'm a great kids don't care if he's here or not.
	Now you're a single mom.
	Black Pilled, Stochastic Decay donated twenty dollars.
	Quick question, raise your hand if you would delete your man for a marriageable man.
	Answer before the next TTS answer.
	Raise your hand.
	Answer your man.
	Wow, why answer?
	Got your answer.
	Curtis Underscore.
	ION Underscore donated 100 Brian.
	To get out of prison you have to participate in a naked human pyramid with 15 inmates, including Sally Struthers and Kenny Loggins.
	You're at the bottom of the pyramid.
	When it collapses is Kenny Loggins the guy who's son highway to the dam?
	Donated twenty dollars.
	and make all the sandwiches twenty nine five i'm a virgin woman who would love to be a wife oh okay
	i've got a different take on tonight's panel productive and not stand off for sure dismissive attitude i wouldn't date any of them but wasn't off the chart delusion list most shows are billy underscore bobberson donated 20 dollars Only nine years old.
	I loved Shrek so much.
	I owned all the movies and merchandise.
	I pray to Shrek every night, thanking him for the life I have been given.
	Shrek is love, I say, Shrek is life.
	Shrek is life.
	Real Trump donated $20.
	How do you know when a woman is about to say something smart?
	She starts the sentence with a man once told me.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	It's a good one.
	Anonymous donated $20.
	Brian, why are you so damn cute?
	I literally LOL at all your jokes.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	That's to you.
	Be honest, donated $20.
	Just want to say you the man, Brian, but the not dying for you, wife/slash, your love is wild.
	Lol, but Ashley, what if the receipts are shown you deleted photo from Insta?
	Is your word still good then?
	Go take a look.
	Man of Welsh dreams donated $20.
	Jade, they say dating is a numbers game, so can I have yours?
	Also, what do you call a giant pile of cats?
	I'm Meowton.
	Hashtag king of the jokes.
	Do you accept his?
	Oh, you got a boyfriend though, so.
	Will you break break?
	Oh, great job, Brian.
	Keep it going.
	I agree with Brian.
	Oh, that was below the threshold.
	Meow Meow donated $20.
	Don't you just hate it when your cat wakes you up like this?
	He said this.
	Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
	This is going to be ingrained in my brain.
	It's right here.
	I'm going to go to sleep at night and I'm going to hear bing.
	You're going to have trauma.
	Can't stop looking at bottom right.
	My motorboat goes like room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room room D-E-I underscore for underscore big underscore A-B-A-D-N-A-T-E-Y-D-O-L-A
	Seriously, Ashley, why haven't you been wifed up yet?
	Priya is young, so she gets the pass.
	Not sure how old you are, if it's past 27, Teresa, big problem suffering.
	25, right?
	Is it BCX worship men?
	Cop out.
	Shrek donated $20.
	What the fuck was that?
	Disavow.
	What was disavow what?
	Oh, the joke.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The joke, yeah.
	Yo, what's up, Shrek?
	Thank you for the support, brother.
	Uh, Florida Man.
	I love the pod.
	Your wife.
	And I watch how Crisis Lord, Crisis Lord.
	You'll take a bullet.
	You can have a break.
	I underscore hate underscore huge underscore labias donated 20 disguise.
	You hate my mother taught me to never trust anything that bleeds once a month and doesn't matter.
	But only after I had accumulated six kids, W/4 baby mamas, all of which were planned without my knowledge.
	Wait, what?
	Curtis underscore non-donated $20.
	You misogynist?
	Brian, you should have been a Marine.
	We would have had a hilarious time in Afghanistan.
	Also, the Sizzler is still open, at least in San Diego.
	It is, and I've been there.
	Do your family have a castle?
	No, my family does not have a castle, but I did grow up right next to one.
	Fancy.
	I should have been the Marine.
	I was more of an Air Force.
	I would have been more of an Air Force.
	Mr. Rogers donated $20.
	The only reason I believe in transgender rights is for the possibility of Brian becoming my mom.
	Okay, good.
	Watch!
	That was weird.
	Do you want to be a mother, Brian?
	I'll adopt you, Mr. Smith.
	Maria Trump donated $20.
	Maria is a 29-year-old virgin.
	Someone quickly grab a net so we can catch her and study how that's even possible.
	I'm gonna go all out and send my number 7,757,209,824 696 sextillion 969 quintillion, 696 Quadrillion, 969.
	Female Manager, $2,969,696,969 donated $20.
	369.
	Damn you fine, hoping she can sock it to me one more time.
	Get low, wow, wow, such a wow fire show tonight.
	So the sweat dripped down myself.
	Mommy Milk has donated 20, motherfucker.
	All skeets.
	Mommy Milky.
	Sorry, sir.
	Milky Milk.
	Mommy Milky.
	Mommy Milky.
	Who's this director to?
	Milky Milk.
	Mommy Milky.
	Milky Milk.
	Mommy Milky.
	Milky Milky Milky.
	Yo, we don't have the screen till they're all done.
	Beyonce donated $20.
	Ashley, clearly a liar.
	That's why she's not married.
	I got the receipts to prove it.
	I pulled up your Insta right when you got up cause I could tell you were up to something.
	This is why we pushed back.
	Ashley, did you hide the twerking video?
	No.
	You hid the twerking video.
	I mean, you guys saw my Instagram before.
	I haven't had any.
	I think she made it to memory, but yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Lying why I'm not married, though.
	What does that mean?
	You're not married.
	You know why you're not married?
	Is because you're still only a son.
	I'm not hung up on my ex.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Come on, Ashley.
	No, it's a different way of saying it.
	We should.
	Who was suggesting?
	Was it you, Nick, that we should have the ex on the show?
	Absolutely not.
	Did he come?
	I want to hear his side of the story on all this.
	He would take accountability.
	Wait, oh, what if we did like a couple show?
	You guys come on together and then we do like an intervention that way.
	Yeah, I know.
	If you're watching the show, bro, you can call it.
	Just saying.
	Crispy Christopherson donated $20.
	Much respect for the show.
	I really enjoy seeing Q pill on.
	He brings good energy.
	Gustave is super chill.
	Brian, you're a great host.
	Really appreciate this panel and this podcast in general.
	Christopher hashtag love you.
	Wait, your first name is Crispy Christofferson?
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Do you think that Q should just move to Santa?
	Just Jesus.
	Just finally move to Santa Barbara?
	And just like a you know, Gustavo Zai Discipline donated $20.
	Good job keeping your eyes up all show.
	He did a great job.
	He did a great job.
	It was beautiful.
	It was beautiful.
	I'm proud to be an American.
	Cherry donated $20.
	Brian, you should bring your exes on the pod.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	That's tough.
	That'd be.
	They probably wouldn't be.
	Like, here's the thing.
	I've made it.
	I've never dated a social media chick, never dated an influencer, never dated a content creator.
	I don't think they'd doubt for it.
	They're like, normal chicks.
	He's definitely still hung up on me.
	Ask me how I know.
	Is that him?
	No.
	Do you think he's watching right now?
	No, he has no idea I'm here.
	He doesn't?
	Come on.
	Roll donated $20.
	Oh, I love the song.
	Never gonna give you up.
	Never gonna let you down.
	Never gonna run around and desert you.
	Never gonna make you cry.
	Never gonna say goodbye.
	Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
	It's a good song.
	Wow, those were some fire dance movies.
	No, that's like the little thing, isn't it?
	The little game.
	Never gonna give you up.
	Never gonna give you down.
	Oh, I fucked up.
	Would you rather suck a prosthetic peen of a T or lick the prosthetic vagina?
	I'll engage just as a hypothetical because I'm a nice guy.
	Damn, that's a hard one.
	Is it?
	Yeah.
	I guess so.
	The trans man is the woman with the peen.
	I think I have to take the prosthetic peen.
	I think you have to.
	That's still made out of vagina, isn't it?
	Love the show.
	Can I get in?
	Wait, what was it?
	Oh, it was below the threshold.
	Did you read that, Nick?
	Was it below the threshold?
	Yeah.
	Whichever one came in.
	Guys, 20 and up, just a reminder.
	Q, what would you do on that one?
	Curtis Underscore on underscore donated $20.
	Brian and Q arrive in prison at the same day.
	The gangs say you can't join unless you shank the other.
	They throw a shank on the floor in the shower.
	Who wins?
	If you both refuse, you're fair game.
	Honestly, dude, I've got back problems.
	I'll win.
	Q's an athlete.
	I'll win.
	I'm gonna contest it.
	If it's like we're 10 feet away from the knife, Q's faster than me, bro.
	Like, I'm a fighter.
	I got a couple inches on Q. You know what, though?
	I'm gonna use my Tai Chi and I'm gonna.
	Wait, what's that thing that not Tai Chi?
	The thing about wingspan is longer, though.
	Bro, I got long arms.
	I got a 6'3 wingspan.
	Rito, please donated $20.
	Mommy Milk is strategically placed right across from Brian.
	I see what you did there.
	Kappa.
	Oh, whoops, I should have kept it.
	My bad.
	Well, actually, the funny thing is, my laptop blocks.
	Gustavo Simp donated $20.
	Gustavo, can you bow for me?
	Let's see.
	That was beautiful, Gustavo.
	Gustavo Simp.
	Yo, what's crazy is, guys, these girls are finding Gustavo's Instagram.
	He's not linked anywhere.
	These girls are like trying to smash.
	It's crazy.
	Was posted as annoying.
	I am the one that finds you so damn funny and cute, Brian.
	I could watch you all day.
	Oh, uh-huh.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Is that a man's name, though?
	Oh, my God.
	Madiera, that could be a dude.
	You know what I mean?
	You don't know.
	Thank you, though.
	I appreciate the compliment.
	Thank you for the endorsement.
	What was the question that we were going to get to?
	I said that we were going to get to it, but then too many were.
	Yeah, it was you first.
	You answered it already.
	Oh, if we were going to date.
	Good one, Gustavo.
	This guy, fucking 2300 IQ back here, remembers everything, and all the girls can find his IG.
	It's crazy.
	How many girls have DM'd you, Gustavo?
	You're not linked anywhere.
	They're like going through my profile.
	It's crazy.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	10.
	10 chicks have been.
	Are good.
	Bro, they investigated.
	We go, we look at the likes, we look at who you follow, who's liking your stuff, and who's commenting.
	Wait, whoa, did you guys remember that thing where there's this woman who it was like a viral TikTok?
	She saw a guy who at like a grocery store or something, and instead of approaching him, I think she looked on a receipt or something, found his name, searched up his mother.
	I might be getting a little backwards.
	Shook, uh, searched up his mom on Facebook, saw that she was part of a book club, went to the book club, and then talked to the mom, and then was like, Can you set me up with your single son?
	Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
	Diabolical.
	I did not see that, but that is like next level.
	I believe it.
	Greatest Canadian ever donated $20.32.
	Love the show.
	Thank you, brother.
	All the way from Canada.
	Hey, dude.
	Can I get an if from the panel smile?
	Hey.
	Wait, is this like the Fonzie?
	A Canadian.
	Wait, what's there's a meme about the A.
	Oh, wait, the Michael Scott thing?
	Wait, what is that?
	Wait, Nick, can you look up the office, Michael Scott, Fonzie?
	Oh, wait.
	This might actually.
	They're super serious with.
	Hold on, don't play yet.
	Anything off of Netflix, they'll fuck.
	No, don't do it.
	Jay Eckin donated $20.
	Ladies, do you prefer beards or clean shaven?
	Brian, I dig the haircut about time.
	Q, great to see you again.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Jay.
	Did you ever run another dinner with you?
	Yeah, we'll do it.
	Would you go on a date with me to Sizzler?
	Bro, I'm not offended by you don't have to worry about offending me.
	I'm not worried about offending you.
	You're just mean.
	I would feel like you'd be mean to me.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	You could have just said no.
	You could have just said no.
	If you were nice.
	I'm a nice guy, I'm a nice guy, you know, I'm a nice guy, nice guy.
	I won't take a bullet for you, but still.
	I was going to say no because what if there's a gun at Sizzler?
	You're not going to take a bullet for me.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	If there's a.
	Actually, you know what?
	First aid question.
	Body count and I got to take the.
	I don't got to take the bullet at Sizzler.
	I got to protect you from the salad bar.
	That shit.
	I remember once I was a kid, I went to Sizzler.
	You know how it was like the self-service meatballs?
	I had way too many of those.
	I was fucked up off those meatballs at Sizzler.
	Holy shit.
	I will protect you from the meatballs at Sizzler.
	I'll be like, babe, babe, babe.
	If Q is my girlfriend.
	Babe, babe.
	Stay away from the meatballs.
	I got you.
	See?
	Guys, that was my protective instinct.
	Did you see that?
	Did you see how protective I was of kids?
	Q.
	No, no, no.
	The meatballs.
	No, So, what about you?
	I like meatballs.
	Whoa, okay.
	So, would you go on a date with me to Sizzler?
	Blah, $6,969.
	Your last ones in.
	Okay, okay.
	So, 10 years in lockup or Smash Gorlock.
	Pickwisely.
	Also, bottle pop if the 28.
	I mean, 48-year-old Ebony takes off the wig.
	Gorlock.
	Gorlock.
	Hans donated $20.
	Hey, Brian.
	I'm your biggest supporter from Germany.
	I'm going to move to the US and need some advice on dating differences between Europe and USA.
	Maybe a good topic for one of the next podcasts.
	European girls are hot.
	Hands donated $20.
	Stay in Europe, dude.
	Don't come to the U.S., you dork.
	I didn't mean.
	Sorry, I. Haines, I'm you're not a dork.
	I'm just saying, German girls are beautiful.
	Why are you coming to the U.S., dude?
	Stay in Germany.
	I actually think German is a very sexy language.
	Like a girl, like, have you ever had a girl speak German?
	Yeah, German.
	You probably don't speak German.
	I know.
	Well, I know a couple words.
	Do you speak any other language?
	Blitz Creek.
	What?
	Do you speak any other language?
	Okay, all right.
	Mais patre bien.
	Just empe.
	That's it.
	All right, very good.
	I can say more.
	Just did the mommy milkers one come through?
	Yeah, you were talking while it was.
	Yeah, it came through.
	It's not coming through.
	It already came through.
	It did?
	Oh, that's weird.
	Something's bugged.
	Oh, there it is.
	Nate donated $20.
	Holy mommy milkers.
	Uh-oh.
	Something is weird with the connection.
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	There's something weird going on in Streamlabs.
	OPC Dion donated $20.
	There's something.
	I'm still eagerly waiting to see Grace Thorpe on the show.
	Her speech dates on playing with fire are so entertaining.
	OPC Donkey Gotlock underscore the underscore destroyer donated $20.
	Tong baston wang li pachuan kai.
	Kuyamaya stupa.
	He's Tarona old Jedi mind trick.
	Ho ho ho.
	Yakutov shakarpunu nay shock knee.
	Get your last ones in, guys.
	Get your last ones in.
	Trump 2024 donated $20.
	At Natalie Carey underscore has been based all night.
	Yeah, they liked you.
	Love your content.
	They liked you, Natalie.
	Go follow her, everyone.
	Yeah, I watched your content on Instagram.
	It was very good.
	I liked it.
	Oh, thanks.
	Super Mankaloff Krypton donated $20.
	Not that you earned this money.
	You owe the mental handicapped an apology for constantly in every one of the streams saying the R word.
	Also, you are turning slowly to Myron Jr. with your semi-bullying.
	Listen, I think that you know, I am holding up free speech by saying the R word.
	Okay.
	There's Okin Chase posted this funny on Twitter.
	Oh, Myron.
	Myron from Fresh Infit?
	What's it called?
	I can't stand that.
	Anyways, I forgot that there was a meme, but whatever.
	Wait.
	Oh, going around the table.
	Would you go on a date with me, the Sizzler?
	No.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	So who?
	If I was single, I would go on a date with you just to see if this is a persona or if you're actually, you know, the same.
	Definitely.
	Bear in the forest donated $20.
	Brain, any chance that Zerka comes on?
	Isn't he like stuck in Canada or something?
	I don't know, because he's a Canadian citizen, right?
	Isn't he like a girl?
	Carly like California donated $20.32.
	Hello, beautiful ladies.
	Question for the panel: Would you be okay with your guy having a few friends as girls?
	Yes.
	No.
	I wouldn't be cool with my girl having a couple guy friends.
	I would not.
	I would not be okay with that.
	You agree with that?
	Absolutely.
	All right, there we go.
	D E I underscore for underscore big underscore labia donated $20.
	Question for Latina girl with apps.
	You are married, right?
	Why come on this thing?
	I know married come on to balance the useless set of whole thoughts, but I'm genuinely curious what you get out of it.
	Which is Latina?
	Half.
	Oh, I thought you were like middle-aged.
	I'm half Russian and half male.
	Half what?
	Russian.
	Oh, half Russian.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Lauren, what about you?
	Would you go on a date with me to Sizzler?
	Would it be 50-50?
	No meatballs.
	No meatballs on vegetarian.
	I'm Pescatarian.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I'll tell you what.
	In this scenario, I would pay for the Sizzler date.
	Okay, why not?
	Okay.
	Smashly Ashley, what about you?
	Oh, no, because you would not take a bullet from me.
	And I'm not a virgin.
	Real Trump donated $20 for the bridge.
	What is your opinion of American men?
	To be honest, when I went to England, I felt like there were more attractive women at a Jenny Craig party.
	Besides you, of course.
	You're gorgeous.
	I do think British women donated $20.
	This one's for blue.
	Wow, that was American.
	Appreciate it, Nate.
	That was good.
	Ian Haynes donated $20.
	Mommy Milkers, Calcium Cannons to Go Labettes.
	Gonna be up all night again because of the busty beauty.
	Oh, wow.
	Thank you, Ian.
	Check Azula donated $20.
	I want to take Tits McGee in a bathtub full of peptobismol because I'm about to move down in the butthole and get suffocated in those fun bags.
	Also, why did Simba's dad die?
	He didn't Mfasa enough.
	Oh my God.
	you're very interesting fans for those guys input from youtube do we raid so two options for those on twitch Do we raid Woe Wow Grandma?
	Or do we raid Aladar?
	Aladar is the, I think the gentleman, I think he's in his 40s who's playing World of Warcraft or Woe Grandma 82.
	She's playing World of Warcraft.
	We did raid her previously.
	So let me pull up the Twitch chat and see what the Twitch chat says.
	I'll let the Twitch chat decide.
	Who do we raid?
	Aladar?
	He's playing World of Warcraft or Woe Grandma.
	Who do we raid?
	Who do we raid, boys?
	Aladar.
	Always grandma, grandma, grandma, grandma.
	Okay, a lot of grannies.
	Nick, can you pull up her?
	We'll get that going here in just a sec.
	Wait, so your answer was no to the Sizzler date.
	Is that correct?
	Because of the bullet thing?
	Yeah.
	Fair, fair.
	Valid.
	You already know what I'm going to say.
	Yes.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	No.
	Damn.
	All right, boys.
	Q, would you go on a date with me to Sizzler?
	You gotta pay.
	Dang.
	You said he would.
	Hey, I'll take what I can get.
	With that said, Nick, can you pull up our dear friend, Woe Grandma?
	We're gonna raid.
	Those of you who are watching on Twitch, really quick, actually, go to the open the Twitch tab.
	Guys, if you're watching on Twitch before we raid, drop us a follow.
	Guys, also pull up the thing from Streamlabs, twitch.tv.
	I wonder what you're doing here, wasn't it?
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one.
	Oh shit, wait, did the session restart on Twitch?
	That sucks.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	Oh well.
	Drops a follow, drops a prime sub over there on Twitch.
	Would very much appreciate that, guys.
	Drops a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
	It's a quick and free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	So yeah, thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Now, as far as the raid over there on Twitch, before, let me just do my little outro thing.
	So we are going to raid WoGrandma.
	I just try to raid a smaller streamer.
	Give them some love.
	She's 82.
	She plays World of Warcraft.
	Be nice to her, guys, when we send you over there.
	Also, I want to wish a speedy recovery to my Twitch/slash Discord mod, Tini.
	She got food poisoning, so feel better.
	Also, if anybody's in the Santa Barbara area, I want to add two background characters.
	If you're willing to volunteer, my budget's already stretched then.
	I don't know if I can, you know, I'm willing to pay.
	I shouldn't have said that.
	We've already got the good background characters.
	But if you're down to volunteer to be a background character, you just get to watch the show and you get a uniform.
	You get to be a soldier, right?
	If you're interested, let me know.
	So, GG, well played to the panel.
	Thank you all for coming.
	This was a long stream.
	I appreciate y'all making it to the very end here.
	GG, well played.
	Those watching on YouTube, last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show, especially everybody who, even though we had some stream issues tonight, you stuck with us.
	We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific, with a fantastic show.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07's in the chat.
	Nick, can you pull up our good friend?
	Rip Rooney?
	It's not?
	Food poisoning?
	Uh.
	Hold on, let me just.
	Oh.
	One sec.
	Let me check on my end.
	Hold on.
	Uno memento Poli fiddler.
	Oh, God.
	Hey, be nice to Wo Grandma.
	Can you pull it up?
	Yeah, but it's not.
	It's not loading.
	Okay.
	Try it one more time.
	Refresh.
	Try to do a refresh.
	Shit.
	Okay, go to Aladar.
	A-L-O.
	Oh, it's working now?
	No, it's not.
	We might have to raid him instead, I guess.
	If that's not working.
	Hold on, guys.
	Hold on.
	Speaking of while we're getting this going, who do you think is the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	Gosh.
	i don't know is alazar working nick A-L-O-D-A-R.
	A-L-O D-A-R.
	Let's see here.
	So who's the primary victim of her?
	I don't know.
	Men are the ones that are dying, and women and children are the ones that are impacted by it.
	So primary victim of war.
	Men, they're dying.
	No, no, no, can't pass.
	Children.
	That was what I thought.
	Hold on.
	So the question is men or women.
	Pause that.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	Disregard the children.
	Everyone.
	I don't.
	I'm going to be.
	I can't pick up.
	Don't.
	No, no, no.
	Don't weasel.
	Don't weasel.
	Answer the question.
	Okay.
	So it's equally.
	So your answer is it's equally bad.
	It equally sucks, yeah.
	For both men and women.
	Equally sucks.
	Yes.
	That's my opinion.
	Final answer?
	Yep.
	Men.
	I would assume men.
	This is actually what my next album is about, and I'd say everyone.
	But I guess you could say the most.
	It's about there's war and then how it affects communities and like it.
	Yeah, but but oh, I will say Yeah, I mean community, yeah.
	Community is okay.
	Smashly, do you want to answer this?
	Sorry.
	What was it?
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Well, men, but you know, if your country's being invaded, women get R-word and stuff like that.
	You know, that could happen a lot.
	Let's assume that that's the case, right?
	So like during World War II, for example.
	Exactly.
	There were definitely women who were SA'd.
	A lot of people.
	Yep, absolutely.
	Terrible thing.
	Who's the primary victim of war, even if women do get essayed during war?
	Right.
	I guess still men because they're dying.
	Yeah, men.
	So you said it's equal, you said it's equal.
	Everybody.
	It changes communities because they take them from those areas and put them in other areas.
	Wait.
	Bringing it back to the bullet.
	If a man.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Last thing.
	If a man sacrifices his life for you and you're in love with him.
	What?
	Again, god damn it.
	Oh, thank you.
	I told you.
	It's not the worst thing.
	It's a bullet talk.
	When do you bring it up?
	Yeah, seriously.
	I'm just going to ask the question for the recorded video.
	Okay, so the question is, shit, did I just lose it?
	Oh.
	No, if a guy jumps in front of the bullet, who's the primary victim?
	The guy.
	Your husband or you?
	If your husband dies?
	Who's the primary victim?
	The one that's dying.
	The one who dies.
	The one who dies.
	But then if he's dead, he's gone.
	So is it the only person who's alive, like, defaults to being the victim?
	Or are we saying that if you die, you are the victim?
	Into the mic.
	Hi.
	If someone dies, they the victims of the menu.
	Nick, should you just unplug, replug it really quick?
	Sure.
	I think that's a good question.
	Let's just see if that works.
	just so I can say goodnight.
	And we have to do the, we have to do what we need.
	We should try to make it so it's a proper stream end.
	So we'll have to wait another few minutes to get that going again.
	I don't know why that happened.
	We'll just skip.
	Yeah.
	Skip?
	The guy is the dead one's the victim.
	The man.
	Yeah, the guy who dies.
	Guy who dies.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	All right, guys.
	But what was that trying to prove?
	Okay, you know, we can wait on a minute.
	Don't get them started.
	Okay, I was about to wrap.
	We do need to wait until it's so frustrating.
	We need to wait until the it should be just a few minutes.
	As soon as it comes back, I guarantee you we're gonna end the stream.
	I just don't want it.
	If we just like say fuck it, it could present some issues.
	So I just want to be I want to be careful here.
	I want to be very careful.
	I'm just gonna I'll be right back in a minute guys.
	I'll be on that.
	Oh, oh my god.
	Yeah, same, and I'm hungry.
	I'm hungry.
	She was over there eating everything.
	Like for food.
	She's over there and she's over here.
	Where?
	We'll have it.
	They're not coming.
	She's just eating everything.
	Every time she gets together, I'm getting like two or three chips at a time.
	Yeah, we should have done that.
	I was trying to get.
	No, I was hungry.
	I'm like, oh, gosh.
	Yeah, we got to get hungry.
	We could go to Denny's or something.
	That'd be good.
	Where were we going to eat?
	Because the hotel doesn't have food right now.
	7-Eleven.
	There's an in-n out.
	7-Eleven?
	In-N-Out.
	Wait, what's going to hit open until?
	What time is it now?
	Until like 1, right?
	Oh, I want a burger.
	Okay, we might.
	Oh, should I like it?
	Let's doDash it out.
	Yeah, we'll go to the office.
	So, we're going to eat more Taco Bell.
	Ooh, Taco Bell.
	Taco Bell.
	That's my favorite.
	I love the hardbark fries, but with no chicken.
	And no hard bark sauce.
	That's so good.
	Yeah, get it with no meat.
	And get it with the avocado sauce.
	And then no art bark sauce.
	Can I get my phone back?
	I've been driving home right now.
	No, we're not driving home from home.
	Oh, yeah, we're going to hotel.
	Yeah, well, the last time.
	Last time I did it, I was like on the verge of crying.
	I'm like, stay up.
	Who did?
	Me and her heeman did.
	Oh, you did?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we drove here with the lift and blasted my tickle this time.
	I don't want to do it.
	All right.
	Once she's back from the bathroom, I'll end this stream.
	Should we try and get this Twitch raid going?
	Let's see if.
	Try to pull up WoGrandma.
	Just try to pull up WoGrandma.
	Sorry, guys.
	We're back.
	It's totally scuffed.
	I pretty much read the outro.
	So, yeah, pull her up.
	I don't even.
	We have any.
	Okay.
	I'm going to start the raid.
	Thank you for watching on Twitch.
	I'm sending you guys over there and just.
	Oh, fuck me.
	Uh-oh.
	Is it going.
	What the?
	I learned how to do this.
	There's something weird.
	This is Dragon Flight, right?
	Or no?
	I think I know what's going on.
	Okay, starting raid.
	Thank you for watching over there on Twitch.
	See you guys next time.
	Good night, guys.
	Over there on Twitch.
	All right.
	Let's pray this works and then we'll move it over to our chat on YouTube so we can see it.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Silver.
	So.
	Yeah, there's whatever.
	Thank you for the raid.
	Whatever.
	They said you were trying and had problems.
	So thank you for continuing to try.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Nick, are you able to hide that bar at the bottom?
	Absolutely.
	So, yeah, there she is.
	She's playing World of Warcraft.
	Hello there.
	I'm doing dragon racing, and it's frustrating, but it's good.
	She's playing World of Warcraft, anyways.
	Okay, you can actually have that.
	She's 82, guys.
	She's streaming.
	She's got a better stream set up than us, obviously.
	Fucking internet problems.
	It's been a major issue tonight.
	So appreciate it, guys.
	That's pretty much it.
	Did the stream lab stop working?
	Because it's still been at 20 and nobody sent anything, which is making me think.
	Really quick, just so I know, I'm not trying to.
	Did the Stream Labs stop working, guys?
	Like, did any of you try to send anything in Streamlabs and it stopped working?
	Because it's a little peculiar.
	I'm not like trying to solicit more on Streamlabs, but I'm concerned that our Streamlabs broke again.
	So, yeah.
	And our chat is super delayed.
	I think I know what the problem is, but our chat's super delayed here.
	That's weird.
	Okay, well, it is what it is.
	It is what it is.
	07's, okay, guys.
	Are we forgetting anything?
	I think not.
	I think we're good.
	Right?
	Right, everybody?
	Right?
	We got everything.
	All right, guys.
	Thanks again so much for tuning in.
	We'll be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you all.
	Oh, where's Madison?
	She's on frame.
	We should get Madison, pop in frame.
	No, no, like.
	Pop, pop, pop, pop.
	Okay, 07's in the chat, guys.
	I hope you guys have a good night.

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