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March 6, 2024 - Whatever Podcast
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Brian REJECTS Her?! Andrew Wilson FERAL Debate! Born Again Virgins vs. ØF Girls! | Dating Talk #141

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Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
Thanks for tuning in tonight.
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
I appreciate that.
Coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Sunday and Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
I guess Kiki's here.
Kiki's here.
Yep.
She's a bit shy.
A few quick announcements before the show begins.
You guys have heard it hundred times.
Podcast is viewer supported.
We got Streamlabs.
If you can donate through there instead of YouTube soup chats, that'd be preferable.
You know, we've got donate, we have Twitch, we have merch, all the links for that shit's in Instagram.
I'm a little sick tonight, guys, so and I, for some reason, my Dropbox fucked up, lost all my notes.
So it's going to be a scuff stream.
Sorry we're starting late.
We have people 50 minutes late.
So it is what it is.
Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and location.
Go ahead.
My name is Brittany Crisp, and my age is 32.
And I'm located in New Hampshire.
And my occupation is OnlyFans.
My name is Dara.
I'm 38 years old.
I'm from Brooklyn, New York, and I'm a retired nurse and OnlyFans model.
My name is Lexis Morgan.
I'm 27.
I'm from Miami, Florida, and I'm a real estate investor and an OnlyFans model.
Age?
27.
Did I miss that?
I don't know.
Okay, what about you?
I am the Jasmine Rose.
I am a model in New York City.
I am 26.
And yeah.
Hello, my name is Cheyenne Matthews, and I am turning 26 years old tomorrow.
And I live in Studio City, California, and I'm a Christian influencer.
Hi, my name is Claire.
I'm 26 years old, and I'm a medical assistant, and I'm from LA.
Hi, my name is Monica.
I am 20 years old.
I am a barista, and I am locally from Santa Barbara.
Hi, my name is Bree.
I'm from Santa Barbara, California.
I'm 19 years old, and I'm a full-time student working in a restaurant industry.
Hi, I'm Lexi.
I'm 23, located in the 209 Stock Dementique area, and I'm also a vista.
And we have Andrew Wilson joining us today, Andrew.
Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson, host of the One and Only Crucible, one of the fastest, if not the fastest growing debate channel on YouTube.
I'm a content creator.
Appreciate you guys having me tonight.
All right, welcome everybody.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
What's everybody's current relationship status?
So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, whatever?
If you're single, how long have you been single?
What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
Starting with you, go ahead.
I'm currently single, and the longest relationship that I've ever been in was seven and a half years.
How long have you been single?
Probably about nine months.
Nine months.
All right.
What about you?
I've been single for about six months and the longest relationship I've been in was about four years.
I was almost married.
Were you engaged or?
No, looking for rings.
Looking for what?
Rings.
Like we were almost at that stage.
Single, longest relationship was seven and a half years, and I have been single for a year and a half.
Yeah.
I'm currently in a relationship with a question mark and have been in the relationship for about a month.
My longest relationship was two and a half years.
What do you mean, question mark?
We almost broke up an hour ago, so it's okay.
Is he here in Santa Barbara?
No, he's back in New York City.
He's a model.
Oh, you came, you flew here, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why did you almost break up an hour ago before the whatever podcast?
It's just I'm thinking about moving to California, so we'll see.
So you had a semi-breakup conversation right before the dating podcast.
He had to go on set, and I had to come on here.
So he's like, we'll talk about it.
And I'm like, okay, bye.
You had to go on set.
Yeah.
Is it Ty Biggs?
No.
Ty Diggs.
Wait.
Tay Diggs?
Tay Diggs.
He's a New Yorker.
Yeah.
I wish.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Yes, I am currently single.
My last relationship was five months ago.
And my longest relationship I've ever had was four and a half years.
I'm single, and I've been single for about three years now since I came to Christ.
And my longest relationship was about a year to two years.
A year to two years?
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's a large gap.
Year and a half.
And you said you've been single for three years, was it?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm single.
My longest relationship was a month, and I have been single for six years now.
Longest relationship a month.
Yeah.
But you've been single for six years, so you in your 20, correct?
Yeah.
So your one-month relationship was middle school, 14?
No, I was a freshman in high school.
Okay.
But you were like 14 or something?
Yeah.
Around there.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm currently single, and I've been single for 19 years.
Okay.
So what's the longest period of time you've ever seen a guy, dated a guy?
A month.
One month?
But it wasn't like dating or anything.
What was it?
Talking, I guess.
What does talking mean?
Like talking like every day.
When was this?
How long ago was this?
This was a sophomore year in high school.
Okay.
And no prospects since?
Like a two-weeker?
Like, like, not like, no, nothing serious.
Nothing serious.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
I've been single for over a year.
My longest relationship was five years.
All right.
Andrew, what about you?
Yeah, I've been married for well over a decade.
Okay, cool.
So, good jumping off point is maybe you've seen the show before.
Maybe you've seen clips from Andrew over there who's on the monitor.
Maybe some of you aren't super familiar with the show.
Maybe some of you are.
A good jumping off point we'd like to do is is there anything that anybody disagrees with that you've heard from me, from Madison back there?
She's had some hot takes and then from Andrew.
We'll start there.
Anybody?
So far, nothing.
Okay, that makes my job easy.
I have something.
Sure.
Wow, this is like starting right off the bat.
I think that the point of the show, even like in your previous video, like you mentioned that the bread and butter of the show is to kind of almost in a way make fun of certain women and they're different.
Wow, that's slander.
I'm going to interrupt you right there.
Those words have never exited my mouth.
So please actually state something correctly that I've said and go ahead.
Okay.
So Just, I think watching like the previous shows, I felt like there was a lot of obviously disagreements as there's a lot of women here and even men.
But I think there's a lot of like casting stones in a sense.
Not that the law in the sense that doing certain things are good or bad.
Like I'm sorry, I'm trying to explain.
I'm like nervous.
But like the show tends to like cast stones at certain women and I see the comments section too and as a Christian I feel like that's not what you know Jesus calls us to do we don't cast stones at each other Especially when we have a log in our eye like our own pride and our own sins We're all sick with sin and we all need an antidote.
Okay.
That sounds like you're making a judgment.
Are you making a judgment?
Yeah, and I don't think judgment is necessarily bad because we need to be able to judge to you know see you know if somebody's doing something bad or not.
But the critical thing.
So what's the actual criticism then?
Yeah, so the kind of judgment that I'm talking about, it stems from like pride.
And this is something that we see Christ warning us about saying, oh, I fasted two times a week.
I've, you know, I pray.
Thank God I'm not like these tax collectors or these sinners.
And Jesus really comes down hard on the Pharisees.
And I kind of feel like that is where the show tends to go.
And I don't think that's the point of Christianity.
The point of Christianity is that we all need like a savior.
I actually don't understand the criticism here.
So the criticism is that you think that there's too many people who are on the show who are too pious and are virtue signaling?
Yeah, I think it's like extreme on like both ends.
You know, there's on one end a complete lack of morality and relativism.
So there's no good, there's no wrong.
And then on the other end, it's like judging women and making fun of these women that come on.
Well, I don't understand.
If you're a moral relativist and you are arguing with a moral objectivist, which you are because you're a Christian, that's how that's going to sound, right?
In order to demonstrate that somebody's a relativist, you have to demonstrate that they would move towards absurd conclusions because they don't have objective morality.
How else as a Christian could you demonstrate that?
Yeah, and I actually agree with you.
I think that the purpose of the law to show them is kind of like going to a doctor's office and saying, here is the symptom.
Like, we're morally sick and you need a cure.
And it's not, I'm better than you because your sins are worse than mine.
And after studying some of the videos that I watched on the whatever podcast, that's just kind of the conclusion that I came with with the type of language that we use, the way that we laugh at each other.
I don't think we would be laughing at each other when we see that, you know, the wrath of God is like hanging upon us.
And if we're a Christian, like, we believe in hell and that's God's judgment.
Like, it's not a laughing matter about our sins.
Like, we're all sick and we all need Christ.
So then to dive into this, let us play a game of pretend.
Let us pretend that you are arguing with an actual prostitute who sees nothing wrong with being a prostitute.
Can you explain how you would make an argument to the sports donated $100?
It is my job to cast the stones and make fun of those that deserve it.
That's bull, get the rocks.
We are going to need a lot.
So exactly, that's my point, is what this individual said.
And I'm not okay with that.
Throwing rocks at women who get the rocks.
Yeah, Abdul, get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
So that's my point right there.
And uh Andrew, did you want to restate your question to her?
Yeah, if you're arguing with a woman who's a prostitute, you don't agree with prostitution.
Can you explain how you would make such an argument to them?
Well, first of all, you know, because i'm a Christian, I would say that you know in in, in the, in the word and in the Bible, like gosh, that sexual immorality is wrong and yeah, but they reject that right, and so we would have that conversation.
But my heart attitude, like the whole conversation.
We're having the conversation.
They already rejected it.
Yeah, sorry for that.
Can you explain to me how you're going to uh, show them the error of their way?
They reject the Bible.
They think it's a 2000 year old book of lies.
Yeah, may I say something okay?
So um, I was actually a prostitute, i've been in the adult industry and I was also a dancer, and so I had a divine encounter with Jesus last year in may, and I this is how I presented it I was like God, the universe, reveal yourself to me.
And then I started having a series of dreams and visions of Jesus Christ.
And, you know, go sanctifies you.
The definition of sanctification is the process of becoming more holy.
Sometimes things change overnight, sometimes things change gradually, you know, because everyone's different God has different timing of healing and revealing things in accordance to what you can handle and so that just exhibits his grace and his love and his mercy towards us, his mercy.
But they're gonna reject all of that because they're relativists and they don't believe you.
They think you're delusional right, and like I said, you know, like talking to these women and saying hey, like this way, like we've been there, and it's wrong, it's sinful and it's against you know um, god's goodness it's, you know, just um stating his glory um, but he loves us and he died for us on the cross and he resurrected so that we can be born again and have new life.
And what Righteous Muffin is saying in the comment section is that what i'm saying is not we is not.
What i'm saying is not that we, you know, devolve into degeneracy.
That's not what i'm saying, because that's why Christ came to save us.
He came to make us a new creation by just believing in him.
But what I find is that the podcast often is using the law a lot to just condemn condemn, condemn and not giving the cure, which is Christ?
Which laws?
What do you mean?
Law like, for example, like what he was saying, like prostitution is wrong.
Like, of course, like we can say, prostitution is wrong all day, but we're not presenting the cure to the prostitution?
Which yeah, but you have to.
You have to deconstruct a person's worldview before you can replace it with something else.
So if you have a person who's a nihilist or a moral relativist, don't you first need to disprove that their worldview is correct before you can move into giving them a new purview on that?
Yes, I agree with you and i'm not arguing about that.
I think we're like, I don't think you're understanding what i'm saying.
I'm talking about like the whole.
I think I am.
Do you mind if I take a stab at Steel Manning your position?
So I think that what your position is is that you think that um, what's going on when people are having these discussions on this podcast is that it's falling short of the glory of Christ from your perspective, and that everything should be given through that purview.
My counter to this is to say to you, it, and forgive me, is that correct?
Is that what?
What you're, what your basic position is um Yes.
Okay, so if that's the basic position, then my counter to this is if you are going to convince somebody, it's generally best, and you'll see this in the best Christian apologists who've ever existed, to meet them where they're at.
And if you meet them where they're at, right, you have to deconstruct and destroy their worldview first before it can be replaced with something else.
And it can look brutal and it can look uncomfortable and it can be not a lot of fun and it can look like there's judgments and things like this.
But I think that if that was not what was going on, that guys like Chase, guys like myself, we would not be on the podcast because we're able to give significant pushback to these other worldviews if it comes up.
That doesn't mean we have to be mean to anybody, right?
But we still do have to provide pushback, right?
Don't you think?
Yes, and I absolutely agree with you.
And Andrew, I don't know your heart.
You know, I agree with you that we need to meet them at their worldview because there's a lot of people who tell me like the Bible is not a credible source for me because I don't believe in the Bible.
And so yes, we should absolutely meet them, give the evidence.
But what I'm talking about is something what, let's say, like Righteous, the earlier donation, he was like, cast the stones on these women.
Like, I'm talking about that heart posture.
I'm not arguing against what you're saying.
I'm actually agreeing with you.
But I'm talking about the heart issue behind condemning people.
What I think is that simply pointing out sometimes to entitled women that they're wrong will give the appearance that you're casting stones when you're not.
But just pointing out that they're incorrect or what they just said was absurd or even just laughing because they said something so absurd, I think that can give the appearance that you're casting stones, even though you're not actually directly doing it.
That's my position on it.
Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
Dear, we do not default to degeneracy.
However, degeneracy must be shamed.
God is merciful, but as righteous sang the when there is sin, it is a sin for you to enable bad behavior.
Please do better.
Yeah, Grid One Motorsports, thank you for that.
We're not going to linger on that for too long, but so.
It was an interesting conversation.
I appreciated having it.
Yeah, and I mean, if I can jump in really quickly on it, so, but you're, where that sort of stemmed from was you said that, well, you thought that I said that it's the bread and butter of the show to what?
Yeah, so basically there was a woman on one of the shows, and forgive me for not remembering her name, but she said, oh, I didn't know that this was going to be like a you versus us like debate.
I thought it was just going to be like an like us having a conversation, not just like you guys, you know, and then all the insults that were thrown at them.
And you said, well, that's like the bread and butter of the show.
And so, yeah.
And which girl was that?
Which episode was that?
I think it was like two, three videos ago.
I'm sorry, I don't remember like the title of the video.
Oh, I think it was actually a show that Andrew was on.
Was it with the two black, the gobbler?
Yeah.
It was the gobbler, right?
Yeah, the gobbler.
Andrew was there.
And I think, so she came on the show and I think she said something about, oh, well, I thought we were just going to share quirky dating anecdotes and I didn't think that we would be having these sort of heavier discussions and debates.
And I think I said the debates were bread and butter, but and perhaps she included, well, I wasn't expecting XYZ.
So I think you mentioned, You know, the mocking the women, but I've never, out of my own mouth, ever said that the bread and butter of the whatever podcast is mocking women.
The bread and butter of the whatever podcast is having is having oftentimes adversarial conversations when it comes to dating topics, cultural.
Dr. Nabli donated $100.
Humor is a very powerful tool to lower defenses.
Ridicule is beneficial in loosening the grip of evil on an individual.
It is fine to use humor as long as one is not destroying another's humanity.
That's a very good observation.
And I couldn't agree with that super chat more.
So thank you.
I think that I do remember this panel as well.
And she was basically complaining that she felt like the conversation was getting too heady.
She thought it was a little too sophisticated for her.
And actually, we turned the rhetoric back because of that to try it again to meet her where she was at.
I don't feel like anybody's humanity was being attacked that episode, that's for sure.
And we had some pretty good conversations in that episode, in fact.
And just last thing.
So you also mentioned, well, some of the chatters, some of the TTS come through.
Sometimes those can be insulting or critical of a guest.
And look, I can say this: you know, the internet is an interesting place.
People, when you have, when you're anonymous, you can sort of talk in a way that you wouldn't otherwise talk to somebody if you're face to face with them.
But as a man, as an individual, I don't know how to be responsible for the words somebody else says because your initial comment was directed towards me.
But I can't be responsible for, by the way, shout out.
I don't know if Erico, Arico TV is still in the chat.
I don't know how to be responsible for what he says.
I don't know how to be responsible for what Grid One says.
I just know how to be responsible for the words that come out of my mouth.
So I can't really take claim to what anybody else is saying, you know?
Yeah, thank you for your response.
And I'm not saying that you're responsible for what other people do.
That's why when I'm talking about this, I'm talking to everybody, including the people on the internet, because we're all human beings.
And this is the calling of the gospels to not hate one another or make fun of one another, but to love one another and see that we're all sick and we're in need of a savior.
So there's a champagne.
LLLL.
Donated $100.
Chat, would you rather get a massage from a gay man nor surgery from a female doctor?
Serious surgery.
So basically, would you rather get a massage or die?
show.
Wait, did you ask me?
Yeah, what do you think?
What would you prefer?
I think the surgery's happening, bro.
Wait, you'd rather get serious surgery from a female doctor than just a massage from a gay guy?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Can I say something?
Sure.
Can I ask why?
Why what?
Why?
You would rather get surgery than a massage.
Oh, you're asking to Andrew?
Yeah.
Well, it's not that I'd rather get surgery than a massage.
That wasn't the question.
The question was.
Oh, wait, maybe we don't go there.
Maybe we don't go there.
Let's not go there.
She's looking for something.
Okay.
By the way, I do want to mention on our last show, we ended the stream.
There were a couple, it was $50 Streamlabs donations that came in.
We missed them.
I'm very sorry, guys.
Normally, it's very rare that we miss any Super chats or Streamlabs donations.
I think they came in there at the very end.
It just slipped my mind.
It's a Shannon Lacey and DDR Nav314.
I apologize that we missed your chats on the last show.
You know what?
Maybe I just read them.
I'll have them really quick.
Nav just said, Thank you for fighting the progressive biases and honoring well-reasoned discussion.
Appreciate it.
And then the other one, I'll message you, Shannon.
I'll message you directly and see if you want to resubmit these for another show.
Okay, so anybody else, any disagreements on anything?
Let's just get to the topic.
Okay, so I wanted to check in on everybody's relationship status.
So everybody here is kind of single except for you, but you just had a breakup, semi-breakup conversation.
Single, Okay.
So what does being single actually mean?
Because I mean, a lot of you guys are very, you've got some attractive people here at the table.
I'm sure there's, you know, some guy in the picture, maybe multiple guys in the picture.
So you said you've been single.
Flannin life, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
Actually, really quick, why don't you pull up righteous muffins?
I'll read this one really quick.
Actually, who here has a good.
Can I have you read it?
Trying to save my voice here.
If we don't judge others and try to change their way, do we just let society devolve into degeneracy?
How do we ever get people to change their ways?
Do we just love the degeneracy away?
That might be directed at you if you want to quickly respond to it.
Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier: is that what I'm saying is not that we just let people in their sin.
Jesus said, called us to repent of our sins, and repenting means the Greek word is metanoia, which is to change your mind from the to believe in Christ.
And the way that we believe Christ and get saved and actually start obeying God is not to try to obey the law to get into heaven or to have a relationship with God, is to just believe that He did the work for us, like He finished it on the cross.
Oh, sorry, did you want to keep going or is there more?
Yeah, that sounds like sola fide to me.
Say that again.
Is that sola fide?
By faith alone.
Sola fide.
And then the fruits come as a result of the faith, genuine faith.
People will bear fruit.
So, for example, Cheyenne's testimony was that she was working in the industry, so was I.
I encountered Jesus.
I repented of my sins.
I believed in Christ, and I got born again, and now I am a completely different person.
And I take no credit for that.
It's God and God alone for that radical change.
He didn't just change one view or two views, he changed all of me.
Well, this is going to be an interesting roundtable tonight.
I can already see.
Okay, all right.
So, going back to the single stuff, so you've been single for nine months.
Some guys in the picture, though, right?
There's been a couple.
A couple guys?
Maybe.
What about right now?
There's a guy that's like long distance.
I don't know what to say about it, but we're just talking.
Okay.
And you do OF, right?
Yeah.
What kind of content are you making?
Is it solo content, BG, GG?
It's like all of it.
BBG?
Yeah, it's like BBBG.
All of that stuff.
What's uh have you done any trad, traditional adult content?
Like mainstream?
Yeah.
Not yet, but Brazzers wants to work with me, but I haven't done mainstream.
Okay.
Do you have like a shooting partner that you work with?
I did.
I did.
It was my ex-boyfriend.
The one from nine months ago?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why'd he dump you?
He didn't dump me.
We mutually split up.
But it just wasn't working for many different reasons.
Not because of what I was doing for a living.
It was like what he was doing for a living versus what I was doing for a living.
What was he doing?
He's a weed grower, and I was going to join him in the middle of the morning.
And then I had an intuition it was drug-related.
Ah, that's why it is.
Okay.
Okay.
Wait, actually, I have quite a few threads I want to go here.
Just going around the table, why did your boyfriend dump you?
Your last boyfriend?
I chose to just walk away from the situation.
It wasn't right.
Oh, you ended it.
Okay.
Twice.
The last two guys I dated, I ended.
Why did your boyfriend dump you?
Your last boyfriend?
I left him.
What a projection.
I'll get one from the bottom.
Drop Kibbles donated $100.
Daddy Brixon, longtime listener first-time donator.
Thank you.
For the cute Christian Asian girl, I am a 30-and Christian from Oregon who makes over six figures.
Could I fly you out for a date?
I can send a pic.
Sorry, I don't know how to respond to that.
I'm sorry.
Well, he's asked.
He's asked if he could fly you out to Oregon.
Jake, what other details do you need to know?
Height?
Do you need to know his height?
Height doesn't matter.
What if he's like 4'11?
Hey, if that's what God has for me, that's fine.
Okay.
Just, you know, I'd like to talk a little bit more of theology and like what your beliefs are and getting to know you.
Where Earth wives donated $100.
Love the show.
Why not ask girls to rate themselves on the wife scale as well as the regular who scale?
Too many rate themselves as a tenth, but it's not the wife scale.
Okay.
Well, fuck it.
We'll come back to the single relationship stuff real quick.
What do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 on the wife scale?
Like how zero being not wifey, 10 being wifey?
Six.
Six?
Ten and ten.
Ten and ten?
Okay.
Nine point two.
Nine.
Eight out of ten, I'm still healing.
I don't.
I'm going to abstain from rating myself.
I don't know where I'm at with that.
I think that's only something God knows and prepares us for.
So I will abstain from rating.
You're going to abstain from your wifey score.
Yeah, I'm going to abstain.
Do you have a self-assessment?
No.
Okay, what about you?
An eight.
I'll give myself a solid seven.
I would say five.
Yeah.
Why five?
Because there's things that I need to work on that I feel that can value myself and then I can value my partner.
Okay.
Interesting.
Five on the wifey scale.
Andrew, what are you on the wifey scale?
I guess I would be a zero.
But my wife is ten on the wife scale.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
Okay.
That was an interesting one.
I feel like we should almost just jump in immediately to this.
Ask everyone to rate their looks.
A little early on this one, but fuck it.
I need to stop cursing.
I don't know when I'm sick.
I start cursing more.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10, starting with you.
Your looks.
Looks scale one to ten.
I don't know.
I guess a nine and a half.
If you want to just say ten, you should.
I'm not conceited.
I'm not going to say ten.
Oh, so you're not conceited, but not really?
9.5.
I can be conceited.
What about you?
I think 9.8.
9.8, okay.
7.5.
I could be better.
I can't rate myself.
Of course you can rate yourself.
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, so I feel like it just be different.
If I rate myself and how I look, it looks different to everyone else.
If I say 10, people say too conceited.
I'm not scared to be too conceited.
I love myself, but I just can't rate myself.
It breaks the scale.
Well, that doesn't make any sense because if you're on your wife's scale, you put like 9 or 10.
That's also a subjective metric.
Looks isn't a title.
Wife is a title.
Looks is image.
Yeah, but they're both a subjective metric.
So why could you rate yourself with one but not the other?
That makes no sense.
I can rate myself for a wife because I know what it takes for me to be a wife to my husband, not just being a wife, but to my husband.
So I know what it takes to do the task and how to fulfill it.
Now, are you married?
I've been proposed to five times, but I'm not married by choice.
You're not married.
Have you ever been married?
No.
So, what's your reference point here?
I know what it takes for me to be a wife and how to fulfill that job.
But for me.
Well, is being a wife just you, or is it also what your husband thinks of you?
Being a wife is a title that my husband gives me.
So not just what my husband thinks of me.
If he thinks I'm the most amazing wife ever, calls me a 10, this, that, and the third, and I think I'm a zero, I'm still a 10 because of what my husband thinks.
But asking me to rate myself based on what I think of myself, I can't do that.
I think everything is.
But you can do it as a wife?
I don't understand that.
That makes no sense to me.
I don't know how you can rate yourself as a wife, but not be able to rate your looks.
That's like.
I mean, it's the subjective metric.
It's like asking, how great do you do your job if you work at Wendy's?
I think working.
Yeah, I feel like Wendy's workers get self-assessment tests where they answer that question, right?
Yeah, because they judge themselves based on the task of what they're doing for that job.
But if you ask them, how great do you look in that uniform that you're wearing that you have to wear, they're going to say, oh, I feel like they could answer that too, right?
Maybe, but it's more like someone else thinks they look amazing and they think they look like a five.
Do they look amazing or do they look like a five?
Which one is it?
I think I look great in the pants, but the shirt isn't all that great.
I think my hair looks nice in the back.
I'm not the split over one.
Well, I mean, but that sounds like you can adequately rate yourself in a Wendy's uniform then, right?
Like, don't you rate yourself for how you're dressed or how you look or things like that?
Don't you give yourself a rating and that determines what your fashion sense is to begin with?
I don't rate myself.
I think if it looks great, it looks great.
If it doesn't, it doesn't, I take it all.
Yeah, but if it looks great, great being high, like eight, nine, or ten, and if you think you look great, that being high is in eight, nine, or ten, which of those ratings for great would you give yourself?
Well, they just say looks, like, let the girls rate themselves on their looks.
So are you basing me in an outfit or basing me naked?
It depends.
Well, no, I'm not basing anything.
It's a self-assessment.
But I'm saying that clearly you can assess yourself because you do it all the time.
That's how you know what hairstyle you use, what makeup you use, what dresses you wear, all that, right?
I might assess myself, but I don't rate it.
Well, right.
But if you were to take that self-assessment and give a rating to it, what would you rate it?
That's the question.
Infinity breaks my sail.
Okay.
So like 10.
Yeah, I think we just put down a 10 for that.
Go ahead.
Okay.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
God is the potter.
We're the clay.
Hold on just a second.
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All right.
Left to right rating.
Fire crotch five.
Mini torto four.
Large torta three.
Christian Asian seven.
Crazy thought Christian four.
Cheat chi negro six.
Tigo bitties seven.
Full sleeve of thought five.
Small bitty of thought four.
No wives.
No wives.
Okay.
Wow.
All right.
I think you were responding.
Go ahead.
Respond to that?
Yeah.
Oh, well.
No, no, no.
Just the initial question.
So scripture says we're fearfully and wonderfully made, and God doesn't make mistakes.
He's the potter.
We're the clay.
I believe everyone's a 10 out of 10.
And your husband or your wife will think so as well because God can pick them for you.
Hold on.
I don't think I've ever heard that one.
Everyone's a 10 out of 10?
Yeah.
Everyone's a 10 out of 10.
Yes.
So there's no.
When you look at somebody, you make no differentiation when it comes to you can't determine between, say, two people if one is more attractive than the other.
You cannot make that determination.
I could see how the world views them, but since I'm filled with the Holy Spirit, I see a person's soul instead of their flesh because I'm born again.
So I have a different lens.
Well, use the lens of that the world uses.
I don't want to.
Why not?
Because it's not good.
I've my intimacy and relationship with God is worth more than lowering myself back to where I used to be.
So you, when it comes to dating, you have, you have no regard for the person's physical appearance.
No, I don't.
Zero.
Not anymore, I promise.
Not anymore.
I've dated fat, skinny, tall, short, all races.
It's the heart.
Yep.
How tall was your last boyfriend?
Six foot.
Oh, that's interesting.
How tall are you?
Five, nine.
So only 15% of men in this country are six foot or taller.
Maybe it's just happenstance that you ended up with a guy who is a is above average in height, but God wanted her to have a six foot tall man, I guess.
Okay.
Rocket, is that?
I mean, this is the thing.
The statement you're making is actually absurd.
That is not a Christian ethic to make the determination that you can have preferences for attraction.
That's ridiculous on its face.
Where on earth did you come up with this other than headcanon that you being a Christian means that you can't have preferences for what you're attracted to?
Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
I'm just saying for me, I don't have preferences.
Like I know some people might prefer.
There's nothing wrong with having a preference.
The way that I've always been, even before being a Christian, I've dated, you know, Asian, white, tall, short.
My first boyfriend was Asian.
He was 5'7.
That was my first love.
What are you trying to say about Asian people with that statement?
I was just trying to say that it's almost a thing.
Would you, do you want to have children?
Yes.
Okay, so would you date a man who could not give you children?
No.
Okay, well then it sounds like you have preferences.
And that's okay, right?
That's totally fine for you to have that preference, isn't it?
Yeah, and I can answer that if that's okay.
So last year, it was so funny, like four days before what I'm about to tell you, I was like, I was praying and I was like, God, I'm okay if you don't give me kids.
I just want whatever you want for me.
days later i had a vision that i had a husband and kids so that's my go into the asian thing a little bit there because you said i even dated an asian man What do you mean by that?
Well, do you think that Asian men don't compare to well that sort of sounds like what you're saying?
I guess I was using the comparison.
Well, for one, I'm half Asian.
Okay.
So, but, but two, it was fresh in my mind because I know he's shorter than the six-foot man.
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Okay, so the rating thing, are you just not wanting to do a rating?
You said everyone's a 10, so I assume you're saying that you're a 10.
A 10 out of 10.
Okay, you're a 10 out of 10.
Everyone's a 10.
Yes.
So if I showed you, say, a picture of Brad Pitt when he was young, and then a picture of Donald Trump currently, I don't know where you, maybe you're a fan of Donald Trump.
How about Joe Biden?
Because I feel like maybe you lean a bit more conservative.
Am I right?
Conservative?
I would say so.
Lean more towards considering.
All right.
Who would you say, in your view, would you prefer dating just based off of their level of attractiveness?
Joe Biden or Brad Pitt when he was young?
You wouldn't have any preference.
I've never had an age preference.
I've dated younger than me, my age, and older.
Just looks.
Just looks without the age.
Joe Biden, this is like a Benjamin Budden thing because I'm bringing Brad Pitt into this.
So just assume their age is the same, but the Benjamin Budden thing.
Sure.
Oh.
Age the same.
Brad Pitt, young, how he looked when he was young.
He's still an attractive guy, versus Joe Biden.
Who's ever a believer?
That's my answer.
That's not the question.
They're both.
Okay, great.
They're both believers.
Thank you, Andrew.
You made it easy for me.
Oh.
At that point, I would just pray, and then God will tell me which one.
I rely on God to tell me.
Oh, my God.
Wait, I have something.
I have something.
Do you rely on, Aon, I got to ask you, do you rely on God to tell you if you like pepperoni on your pizza or not?
Well, we'll come back.
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Please give my info to the beautiful Asian honey.
You're right.
Yes, the one with the helmet and you can the one with the tattoo.
I like E. She's not your type, bro.
Oh, is this like a friend of yours?
But I asked a question.
Don't you think that God gave you attraction?
Like, that's a gift from God to be attracted to somebody looks wise.
Or looks are a gift from God as well.
Wait, you want to answer that really quick?
Then, Andrew, you had your pepperoni thing.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes, so definitely, of course, like attraction does aid.
And, you know, obviously physical attraction aids, you know, in the sexual attraction.
Like, when you're married, you know, it's more, it's more intimate.
God gave sex as a gift.
You know, so I would say, yes, it does.
But it's not the main thing.
That's an additive.
That's a gift outside of what's really important, which is the heart of God and following in his will.
Yeah.
What's going on here is something you should assess because the gal who was next to you had a criticism, and she's a Christian.
Her criticism was about essentially falling short of the glory of God is one of the criticisms she has of the show.
And yet, what I'm hearing from you is actually piety signaling.
This is piety signaling.
Saying that it's so over-the-top ridiculous to make the claim that you have no personal preferences.
I don't even know where to begin.
Do you like pepperoni on your pizza?
I actually don't like pepperoni at all.
Great.
Was that, did you, were you informed of that by a vision from God?
God made my taste buds, so apparently, not my vision, though, no, just naturally.
Right.
Hey, wait, so your taste buds informed you?
Yeah.
Okay, got you.
So when you are attracted to a person, how do you know that that's God telling you that you're attracted to him or if it's you telling you that you're attracted to him because of your own personal preferences?
Right.
That's a really good question.
So I actually, this is one of my prayers, you know, and I'm just going to be bold and say it.
One of my prayers is, God, I surrender my attractions to you.
And I'll tell you, when I first started praying that, the way I was attracted to people changed.
Prior to that, prior I started surrendering to God, I was attracted to like guys that were just not healthy for me.
And it was also because I wasn't healed.
The more God heals you, the more you're attracted to healthy.
Yeah.
So did you yield over your taste buds to God as well?
Yes.
Okay, so God doesn't want you to eat pepperoni?
Apparently not.
It doesn't taste good.
That doesn't sound slightly ridiculous to you?
No.
No.
Not at all.
So you yielded your taste buds over to God.
Yes.
God doesn't want you to eat pepperoni.
Right.
Right?
That's not your taste buds.
That's God doesn't want you to eat pepperoni.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I think God works in everything, every little thing.
Yeah.
Like your desires, your emotions, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We can come back to this.
Otherwise, we're going to bog the panel down with it.
But what you're saying is ridiculous, and I can demonstrate to you why.
Is Brian gone?
We got a few minutes then?
Okay, great.
So the question becomes, right, you are supposed to have your grounding in biblical belief.
I'm guessing you're some kind of Protestant, right?
What kind of denomination are you?
I would say if I had to pick one non-denominational, but I believe in both the Old and New Testament, so everything, yes.
Non-denominational.
Yes.
I have a relationship with God.
Yeah.
So this makes you the interpreter, right?
You're the interpreter of the Bible.
An interpreter, would you mind elaborating on that?
Yeah, how do you know what you're reading in the Bible is true?
The Holy Spirit leads me and gives me revelation of wisdom.
Now, let's assume for a second somebody's next to you who also claims they have the Holy Spirit inside of them, and that's how they get revelation, and you have a disagreement.
How do you know which one of you is right?
Ooh, I love this.
I love your question.
So, of course, that's happened, and I've had, you know, conversations that got heated, but also, like, God's really worked in me, and it's okay to disagree.
You know, some people don't agree that.
It's not okay to disagree.
Only one thing can be right.
Two things can't be right.
Two interpretations can't be right.
Only one can be right.
How do you know which one's right?
So if you're talking about conviction, conviction is different than everybody.
For example, I got convicted personally.
I can't drink at all because if I do, I won't just drink one.
That's my own conviction on drinking.
Another Christian could drink a shot and they're done and they don't feel any conviction from God.
So conviction.
That's not answering my question.
My question again is that if somebody's next to you, if the gal who's sitting next to you right now claims that she has a vision from God and interprets a text alternative to how you interpret the text, how do you know you're right?
Honestly, I wouldn't ask that question.
I would hear her out, and then I would ask God, I'm like, God, why did she tell me that?
Are you trying to tell me something?
I think it's to make sure that pride doesn't enter your heart, especially as a person.
This does not answer the question.
I'm glad that you would say that.
How would you know you were right?
Because I trust that God will let me know.
And that God is always going to, so you're always going to be the one who's right then.
Because God's always going to tell you.
So if somebody else says that they have the power of the Holy Spirit inside of them, they've experienced the same revelation that you have.
Okay?
And then whatever it is that you think God says to you, you're the interpreter.
You're going to have the correct interpretation no matter what, aren't you?
For my life.
For me, it's not my job to worry about everyone else.
That's God's job.
It's my job to control what I can control and what he tells me.
I thought your job was to make disciples of the nation.
Yes.
And love and faith.
Okay, well then you do have to worry about what your neighbor is doing and what everybody else is doing too if you want to make disciples out of them, don't you?
Right, without judgment, but to exhibit the forgiveness and grace of Christ, which is what she was trying to say earlier.
And you can do those things.
They're not exclusive to each other, right?
Or exclusionary to each other.
So the question becomes, again, how do you know that you're giving them the right interpretation other than because you think so?
Just keep seeking the Lord and he'll reveal it.
That's all I know.
And what if they reveal it, he reveals to somebody else that your interpretation is wrong?
How do you know you're right?
Honestly, it's just, it's faith.
It all boils down to faith, faith on the things that are not seen but hoped for.
That's the definition of faith.
I just want to let you know that by this example, you're essentially saying that you're the ultimate arbiter of God's word.
You, personally, you are the ultimate arbiter of God's word.
Well, you have to be because anybody else who has any sort of different revelation than you do about the scripture that you read, which is alternative to it, you're going to believe your interpretation.
This means you think that you are the ultimate arbiter of God's word.
So I have spiritual mothers and fathers from my church that they mentor me.
So I don't know everything.
Of course, like I'm still going to grow.
There's so much wisdom that I don't know.
So I'm not saying that I know everything, but I know enough for today.
That's why God says he gives us our daily bread.
So someone else's revelation on something could be different than mine, but God knows what we need.
And like you were saying, he comes to us where we're at.
So I'm not saying that I'm Jesus.
I follow Jesus.
I'm a servant of Christ, but I am not him.
And if one of those spiritual mothers or fathers inside of your church has a different spiritual revelation than you do when they're interpreting text, how do you know that yours or theirs is right?
We have faith.
And if you seek God, the Bible says if you seek God, you will find him.
Period.
That's the answer.
Hold on.
It takes faith.
So everybody's a 10.
Amen.
Come on.
Everyone's a 10.
I don't know if you actually answered.
Did you ever answer my question about the Brad Pitt versus Joe Biden thing?
You said if they're both.
Is everybody equally attractive?
Let's be honest, that's like an answer from God then, right?
Like whoever you're attracted to.
Like whatever.
She doesn't feel any physical attraction for anybody.
Because everybody's equally attractive in her eye.
Everyone's attraction works differently.
I think we need to note that.
She says everybody's a 10.
Right, yeah.
Because we're all made in the image of God.
I truly believe that.
I truly believe that.
That's my heart.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it's like the same way that you know that you don't like pepperoni, you would know if you don't like Joe Biden and you do like Donald Trump or whatever the comparison he did was.
So you do have an answer in your head, you're just not speaking it.
Would you date somebody who's obese, morbidly obese?
I have before.
You have before.
Would you prefer to date someone who's in good physical health versus who has a fit body versus somebody who's morbidly obese, you have no leaning?
If you're talking about health-wise, since our body's a temple, yes, of course it would, you know, be probably in a sense a wiser choice because if someone's actively taking care of themselves, but also someone could also be obese and still be taking care of themselves.
It could be a health condition that they have.
So, you know, that's a very open-ended question, but I will just say, like I said, I've been attracted to skinny and obese person.
Wait, so you're saying, I mean, we're so getting off the rails here, but you're saying that somebody could be morbidly obese but be in good health?
I've met some people that had conditions and they worked out at all.
By virtue of being morbidly obese, you are almost definitely, you are not in good health.
That is a health.
Being morbidly obese is not healthy.
There's not healthy people on Noah's Ark to like, right?
Like the strong, certain animals, certain things.
Wouldn't God want you to date a healthy person, not an obese person, for yourself?
Yeah, so I see what you're saying.
So basically, I've met a couple people with conditions and they would work out every day.
They ate actually healthier than me, but they were still big because of the conditions they had medically.
So that's what I'm referring to.
There's a difference between like someone, you know, eating a lot and getting, you know, obese because of their diet strictly, and they don't care about their body.
And there's a difference between someone having a condition and then being obese because, and they're doing everything in their power to help themselves and their weight.
So why would God put a good person in bad health?
Do you think that's ironic?
That's a whole thing.
That's a whole thing.
Hang on, maybe, let me try this from a slightly different angle from your perspective the best that I can.
I think there's some.
So assume for a second that you have preferences, but through faith, you're able to ignore some of those preferences for maybe things you think are greater good, like virtue or personality or things like that, right?
Would that be more accurate to say?
Yes, I'm definitely attracted to the personality.
The way someone speaks to me, the way their heart is, because that's part of their soul.
Yes.
Gotcha.
Okay, so you're able to ignore possibly some of the alternative.
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Well, I'm not questioning her faith, to be fair, at all.
That's not the intent, but we're going to have theological disputes.
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God gave you free will for a reason, and you seem to be completely ignorant of not only his holy word, but also your place in the world.
You need a new church, and you need to take accountability in life.
So back to this, if you're able to ignore physical preferences that you might ordinarily have for these other things, I think that that's fine, and that's a fair argument.
Yeah.
But you would still admit that you do have some physical preferences.
Well, I definitely feel attraction, you know, after I like someone's personality, I'm like, oh, wow, like your hair is nice, your skin's nice, yes.
Right.
But that's not the initial.
So I guess if we're just judging on rating, just asking you to take the preferences for what you would consider physical attraction and only that And give us the rating that way, rather than the alternative of trying to mix a holistic of a person in.
While I can understand that in some cases, a person's personality may make them more or less attractive to you.
You can also include that metric for yourself in a self-rating system.
So you can say how attractive you think you are and base all of that on a holistic as well.
Like she was saying, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Everyone's going to think differently and have a different view.
You're the beholder right now.
That's why we're asking you what you think about you.
Yeah, I gave you my answer.
10.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, so you're a 10.
Okay.
I will abstain from rating myself.
You're going to abstain?
I won't rate myself.
Or you could just engage with the conversation and just answer the question.
Yeah, I'm not going to rate myself.
I think it's a worldly question.
And I agree that it's kind of putting me back in a place where I was beforehand.
And I just, like before Christ, you know, when I was, you know, doing, you know, work like Olean Fans and everything was about my looks and attractiveness and all those things.
So, yeah, I'll abstain.
Thank you.
Okay, so you don't care about looks at all in a partner?
Because you refused.
Are you abstaining because you have an answer to the question, but you don't want to share it?
Yeah, that's correct.
Oh, so well, why would you.
So you do have a self-assessment?
Yes, I do.
Oh.
Well, why not just share it then?
Because I don't want to.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you care about looks in the partner?
I will abstain from answering.
Bro, you've asked to come on a dating podcast.
Why would you abstain from answering such a basic question?
I'd be happy to answer other questions I'm comfortable with.
Why would you be uncomfortable answering if you care about physical appearance in a partner?
I don't understand at all.
I'll give you the, if you don't want to rate yourself, that's fine, but you can't even state whether you care about physical attractiveness or not?
Yeah, I just would rather not answer the question.
I think there's been some other women on here who abstain to answer as well for their personal reasons, and I have mine.
I don't know of one who has abstained from answering whether or not they have a preference of being physically attracted to somebody else.
I'm not sure I've ever heard that abstain from it.
Never heard of it.
Like Brian says, it seems perfectly reasonable if you want to abstain from answering that question about yourself, but I can't actually figure out a single reason why you'd want to abstain from answering whether or not you just physical attraction is something which is important to you or not important to you in a relationship.
That makes no sense to me.
Ditto.
I don't understand.
Yeah, and I'll give my reason for that, which is that, you know, I'm here to be an ambassador of Christ, and I don't think I have it, you know, all in terms of like I'm not a perfect person.
And I want to make sure that I'm not displaying anything incorrectly.
So anything that I don't know in terms of, you know, whether this is a good way to be a perfect person, and we're not saying that Christians believe that they're perfect people, that's absurd.
Just asking you, like, like this, do you like pickles on your hamburger?
Yeah.
Okay, why are you able to answer that question, but not whether or not physical attractiveness is important to you?
I don't understand.
Because pickles and a hamburger is, I mean, that's food.
And we're talking about people.
Yeah, I know.
Well, we're just talking about preferences.
I want to be very careful because, you know, I think things like physical attractiveness matters in this world in negative ways and positive ways.
And I just want to make sure that I'm not answering really like any questions that might be.
Well, but I don't understand.
It's just a preference answer.
We're just asking for a preference.
Do you have a preference?
Where, in other words, do you have any kind of preference at all in the opposite sex for attractiveness if you were going to date them or marry them or something like this?
That is not even a worldly answer.
That just seems like it's common sense.
Yeah, so I do.
I have an answer to this question, but and I'm I don't mind giving this answer to people close to me.
That's not on live stream.
I'm even more inclined to not answer because I feel there's a lot of pushback for me just not wanting to answer a question.
Well, it sounds very prideful.
It's from my perspective.
It sounds like you're being very prideful and doing everything that you can in order to piety signal from a basic question like this.
And now that you understand that it's absurd that you're not answering, the pride is that you're doubling down.
So maybe just why not just not be so prideful and just say, hey, of course, I have some kind of physical preference for a person I would date.
That seems totally reasonable.
I don't even know how that could hurt a single soul on planet Earth for you to say that.
I honestly can't.
Yeah, so you're accusing me of a very serious sin.
No, no, no, no.
Actually, address his question.
Yeah.
Well, no, I want to address what he said, which is that, you know, you're saying that I'm very prideful.
No, I'm saying you're being very prideful right now.
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These are the most surface-level beginner questions, too.
Don't tell us you're going to refrain from answering this, but later tell us your favorite sex position is upside down pile driver.
That's crazy.
I'm not saying you're a prideful person.
I'm not making any such accusation at all.
I'm just saying that right now, it seems like the only reason you're being resistant to this, to just answering this basic question, is because you understand now that it's kind of absurd that you won't and you're doubling down.
And I don't know what pride is other than that.
Unless you can give me an actual reason, a foundational reason, either biblical or non-biblical, even from a secular prism, I'll accept that, for why it would possibly be that you would say that you do or don't have preferences when it comes to physical attractiveness in a relationship.
That just seems absurd to me.
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Oh, MG, the non-ansay, so annoying.
Brian, Andrew, please help.
Good night.
Married guy out.
Hey, man.
Good night, married guy.
Thank you.
Have a good night.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
You two on this question have ate up like 30 minutes of the show.
You could just like, I don't know in what scenario someone who's religious, someone who's secular would ever judge you for saying that, for you, that you care about someone's physical appearance.
Because you have an answer to it.
You said you had an answer to it.
You just don't want to reveal it on the podcast.
Okay, so, sorry, what did you, okay, so I feel very uncomfortable with the fact that you guys are really pushing me to answer a question.
I've already said that I'm not comfortable answering.
There's just some questions.
Well, I'm sorry that your comfort level is put in the realm of discomfort, but I'm not here to make you comfortable.
That's not what my purpose is.
My purpose instead is to dive into your worldview and figure out if, you know, what's going on up there as far as an interpersonal, how you view interpersonal relationships, that's the point of the podcast, not to make you comfortable.
So the question still remains, I don't actually understand why you won't answer the question, and I wish that you would give us a reason for that.
I already gave my reason for that.
Because I don't want to.
I think you're trying to pry a reason out of us.
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So do you want to give, we're not going to push back really any further, but do you at least kind of want to explain your refusal, like why you're refusing to answer a fairly basic question?
I already answered the question earlier, and anytime I speak, Andrew, you know, is interrupting me, so I can't even get out an answer.
Okay, so I'll just.
So I will, you know, I'm just going to leave it there.
I'm not comfortable answering the questions.
This question, and I will not answer further.
Can you tell us?
That's fine if you don't want to answer the question, but can you tell us why?
I want to make sure that the questions I'm answering are glorifying to God.
And if there's any doubt in my mind that is not glorifying to God, I will abstain from answering.
Okay.
That is my answer.
And I explained this earlier, but I think that in some sense, Andrew is trying to squeeze out another answer from me, and I'm not going to give any other answer than that.
Okay.
You're not going to give any answers that are not glorifying.
I just want to note I didn't interrupt you.
I've let you give your entire answer, right?
Or why you won't give an answer.
I'm sorry, can you repeat that?
Oh my God.
I just want to let you know I didn't interrupt you.
I gave you all the chance in the world to give your answer just now, and I didn't say a word.
I think I'm a solid five.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm going to make this easy for you guys.
And I would say I'm a solid eight.
Yeah.
Alex say I'm a five.
Okay.
Okay.
so 9.5 9.8 7.5 10 10 8 uh okay first off there's no tens at the table Let me get that out of the way.
And also the 9.5s, 9.8.
Sorry, you guys are also wrong.
Sorry.
I'm not even offended.
That's your opinion.
I don't care.
I have mine.
Oh, we didn't rate ourselves, Andrew.
Should we rate ourselves?
Or should we abstain or should we abstain from answering?
That's a solid one and a half.
I'm not sure.
Me saying I'm a four would be glorifying to God.
I give myself a five.
I'm a five.
What are you, Andrew?
Four.
Okay.
I'd say that's true.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
She's got smoke for you.
Oh, no, I totally agree.
Just like I agree with Brian, that in the world that you're at in, it's the same world that clowns are in the government.
Well, wait, maybe that is this world.
I don't know.
Maybe you haven't.
There you have it.
Maybe that is this world.
Okay, where we're, I'm trying.
Oh, we were talking about everyone's relationship status.
So what's going on?
Oh, we're going around.
Okay, so I'll do this.
Why did your boyfriend break up with you, your last relationship?
It was mutual.
I can't say who walked away from who, but I think it obviously had to do something with that I started making a lot of money through OnlyFans, and that does make me a little bit more dominating.
He was not as ambitious as me, and I kind of wanted him to get up and like, you know, match my energy.
And he wasn't, you know, stimulating my mind.
And I kind of just got bored.
I kind of grew out of it.
It was like I pushed him to like be better and he wasn't listening.
But I still like love, respect him.
So I think it just probably had to do with that we just grew apart because our lives kind of changed and he wasn't moving and I was moving forward.
What was he doing for work?
Well, I met him as a trainer, like a fitness trainer.
And I told him like, okay, let's think about a business for you.
You were the trainer or he was a personal trainer.
Was he working full-time?
When I first met him, correct, yes.
Okay.
And I was kind of like, all right, I think that we should just kind of like invest our time into figuring out a business for you.
Like we're together.
Was he content continuing doing the career that he was doing when you met him, which was personal training?
I mean, I feel like he was miserable.
You know, he was waking up very early.
He was.
He was waking up very early and just saying that he wanted out.
And I was, you know, giving him as much advice as I can.
And, you know, I essentially pulled him out of his job and said, okay, I have the household down.
Just let's.
He was miserable because of his job?
Well, you know, waking up early, not getting enough pay, putting a lot of effort, not reaching goals because of whatever it was.
You know?
Logan daily donated $99.50.
I understand that you want to do your best and glorify God.
However, it's coming off as piety signaling.
I hope you too will continue to search for Christ and come home to orthodoxy.
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Thank you, Logan.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
So you were, when you met him, significantly out earning him, correct?
I started, I began to.
Yes.
Like with some time, I started making more money.
How many followers do you have on Instagram?
5.7 million.
Okay.
And you do OnlyFans, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
You make six figures a month?
Yes.
Okay.
How old was he?
When I first started dating him, 27.
Were you hoping that he would make as much as you or more?
No.
Because, I mean, realistically speaking, it's impossible.
Making six figures a month puts you in less than the 1%.
Correct.
I was just okay.
So most men are not going to be the vast majority, 99% of men are not going to be able to match you financially.
And that's fine.
I never needed him to.
But it was an issue for you in the relationship that he wasn't.
Was an issue that he would wake up at 2 p.m. when I gave him all the business ideas and said, I can invest into you.
And as long as you put the work in, I'm okay with, you know, following your dream.
And it wasn't like he wasn't, he just was worrying about the wrong things.
Or, you know, it was just, he wasn't putting the effort towards, you know, wanting something more for himself.
Wow, who donated $100?
Has she never seen this podcast?
Like, why go I'm here if you refuse to answer the most innocent questions they ask?
I'm answering the other questions.
Any questions I'm not comfortable answering, I'm not going to answer.
And I'm not going to let peer pressure force me to give an answer that I'm not comfortable.
Can you say something to that?
I do think that this is the beginning of the show.
And if that just simple question made you uncomfortable, I think it's going to get a lot more intense and it's going to take up a lot of time.
And if you're that sensitive, I think that you should be considerate and just kind of just say a short answer.
Can you just skip me and go forward?
Because there's a lot of people on the table.
And I mean, it could just make a lot of people uncomfortable.
You know what I mean?
And I get what you believe in and everything, but it's like, it's just, it's going on and on and on.
And you're here on a podcast, you're here to speak, let other people speak.
Just tell them to skip the night to the next person.
It's just what it's manners.
If you see, read the room.
You see people getting frustrated, like read the room correctly.
You know, and I'm so for like you voicing yourself, but just read the room and understand when it's time to just skip over the question.
Yeah, how's she ever going to get all the attention that she wants if we're focusing too much on you, right?
Exactly.
Well, you keep asking us questions.
Yeah, you keep asking us questions.
When she was asking us questions and we're just responding, my answer was very simple.
I don't want to answer.
And it was supposed to go to the next person.
But like if there's a bunch of sophistry, like just don't answer.
It's almost like I'm trying to think of an example of a question that I could ask you that you might opt to reject answering.
And then, well, then that inspires in us wanting to dive into, well, why the objection to answering an otherwise innocent question?
Well, I think it's respectful because to just move on because I gave my answer and instead of respecting the answer and saying, okay, she's uncomfortable, let's just move on to the next person.
I'm being grilled and peer-pressured into answering.
Well, okay, let me ask you a question.
Or let me frame it like this.
You're only here to represent the Christian worldview if it's comfortable.
Because now you have people who are adversarial to your left, it looks like, from my perspective, right?
So your job is to push back, right?
Isn't that your job?
That's not my job.
No, it's not your job.
Our job is to encourage and not convince.
It's not our job to convince you guys that God does that.
We're just telling our stories and giving our answers.
Cool.
So, oh, I got this.
To the godly woman, take no advice from OnlyFans.
Blank dumpsters, Christ is king.
Okay.
All right.
And that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
Like, we don't say that to other people and then say, Christ is king.
Christ is not okay with that kind of behavior.
Yeah.
That's not godly.
And on top of that, if I'm not comfortable answering a question, I'm sorry, but we could have just left it there.
And so I'm sorry if you felt like that.
Wait.
So question for you.
Sorry, it's not your job to convince her.
Is the sky blue?
The sky can be different colors.
When it's the daytime, when it's 3 p.m. in Southern California and there's no clouds, is the sky blue?
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, if you said, well, I don't feel comfortable answering that question, that might prompt me to be like, well, that's a bit ridiculous.
Why do you refuse to answer such a basic question?
Wow, I would have donated $100.
You didn't answer my question, though.
Have you seen this podcast before?
What was your purpose coming on if you don't have an answer?
Yeah, that's a good question.
I have seen this podcast before, and there's a lot of questions that are appropriate and... that I'm comfortable answering and there's other questions like what's your body count that I'm not comfortable answering and I'm not going to be peer pressured into answering something I'm not comfortable talking about.
I understand Brian what you're saying like.
Oops, sorry, I didn't mean to go ahead.
That was me triggering that on accident.
I understand what you're saying that, you know, if this is, this seems like such a basic question to you, so why would I, you know, want to refrain from answering?
But I gave my answer.
I gave my answer.
You can look back in the video.
And then after that, I just kept getting questioned and strawmanned by Andrew.
Sounds like a lot of work.
Okay.
We're talking about relationships.
Why did your last boyfriend dump you?
He didn't.
Oh, you broke up with him?
I did.
Okay, what about you?
I broke up with him.
Yeah.
Is it because he didn't think he was a 10 out of 10?
I'll just be really raw with you.
You're probably going to be shocked.
I'll be very raw.
Be raw.
I'm very raw.
Be raw.
Here we go.
Let's go.
Long story short, I met him.
He said he was a believer.
Turns out he was a warlock in hiding, and I found out.
Like legit warlock.
I don't say that lightly.
Yes.
Warlock.
Yeah.
I'm being serious.
Yeah.
Like a level 60 warlock?
Was he alliance or horde?
What do you mean by warlock?
Like, did he, was it like the alliance or the horde?
Horde.
Yeah, I've never heard those words before, but I'm assuming.
Yeah, like he actually.
So like, well, like on the horde side, like he's on the horde side, he would be either undead or troll or orc.
He was the alliance side, he could be human or it could be gnome.
No, I get what she's saying.
So he's like level 60?
Like was he, what spec was he?
He was in the Santa Muerte religion.
The what?
Santa Muerta.
It's like a Hispanic witchcraft.
Yeah.
And then slowly.
Like, was he a pumper in Nax Ramis?
I'm sorry.
Was he uh Catholic, right?
Hold on.
That's a Catholic.
So he had the mixture of the Catholicism with his witchcraft?
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
So he was a pumper in Nax Ramus.
Like 99% parses and shit.
I don't know what that is.
sorry like did he I don't know Is he more of a PvP guy or a PV guy?
Like, when he played his Warlock?
I'm sorry.
I don't know what that means.
No, like, you know, Warcraft logs.
Is that a game?
Like, a video game?
Well, that's a website to track, like, you know, your skill in PV environment.
Like, there's Molten Core, BWL, Nax Ramis, AQ-40.
Like, was he a pumper?
I don't know.
Was he a pumper?
Like, did he, did he tanks like in AQ-40, did he tank Twin M's?
Was he a tank for Twin Mps?
You know what?
AQ-40?
The only thing I can say about that is he literally was in gangs, though.
He told me that later on in the release.
Was he like Affliction spec or did he like spec into destruction?
I don't know.
Is he playing Season of Discovery right now?
Probably.
SOD?
I don't know.
You've had StaySafe on the show before.
He's like, he mints warlocks all the time.
So maybe we can get them linked up.
Like is he in a guild or what's up?
He's not in a place for that.
He's not in a guild.
He's not in a place for that.
I don't, I haven't talked to him in a while, but what's your main, like what do you mean?
I'm so glad I'm not dating, donated $100.
1 Timothy 2, 12.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man.
Rather, she is to remain quiet.
If you're such a godly woman, just close your ockholster.
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No.
Well, look up Deborah and Esther in the Bible, and I think that'll answer your comment.
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Oh, okay.
Oh, we have, let me read this really quick.
Sean Bailey, Claire, tell Andrew about your cool Orthodox friend.
That's my Orthodox friend.
Oh, Sean.
Okay.
That's it?
All right.
Hi, Sean.
Wait, so your last boyfriend, jokes aside, was a warlock?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
In the what religion?
Santa Morte.
It's basically demonic, so it doesn't matter what you call it.
But he lied to you and said he was Christian.
Yeah, and honestly, it was on my end too.
It was partially my fault because I didn't sense it because I stopped reading scripture and praying and I became very obsessed with him, you know?
And that's why I'm in a season of singleness right now because we are just obsessed with each other.
I get all into the guy and then I stop focusing on God.
So that's my personal story and journey.
But here's the turnaround.
I just want to say, the turnaround of that, last month, he messaged me after a couple months.
We didn't talk.
And he said, this is what he said.
And I believe it because I felt it in his voice because we FaceTimed.
And he said, hey, I just, I know we're not together.
I just want to let you know that I started praying and I had an encounter with God.
And someone who used to be a gang member just like me, he actually spoke into my life and he's a Christian now and that really convicted me.
So there's a good turnaround to that.
But at first, yeah, it was terrible because he tried to do all these spells on me.
Like it was a whole thing.
And it was really scary, but God protected me.
Yeah. Word. Oh.
Okay.
Yep.
So he's Christian now?
He said so, yeah.
Or is it just a ploy to get you back and he's still actually a warlock?
He's probably still a warlock because he lied to you the first time, right?
Yes.
Does he wear like was he dressed gothic type?
He had like he would always wear like a white t-shirt and like jeans and like a white tennis shoes and had his hair and a ponytail and a hat.
Wait, did you guys have no carnal?
What's the how's the most polite phrasing?
Carnal knowledge.
Did you have carnal knowledge?
Did you guys have carnal knowledge of each other?
Like did we were we sexually intimate?
P and the V. You know, I love that you just comment on that.
I've actually been celibate since last May.
Yep.
So no.
Yes.
That's awesome.
I'm proud of you, Cheyenne.
I'm proud of you.
Thank you, because it was hard.
It was hard to turn down the warlock.
I bet it was like he sounds like, I mean, you guys differed in your work, in your like.
You guys differed in that regard, but I feel like once you meet a warlock, like, how do you turn that down?
I'm still healing from it.
So there's no carnal knowledge.
Carnal.
I'm going to start using that carnal knowledge.
By the way, has anybody here?
I want to do a show recommendation, The Tudors.
It's a bit dated, guys.
It came out in like 2007, 2008.
The Tudors, it's a bit slow compared to some more modern shows.
If you compare it to Breaking Bad, et cetera, moves a little slow, but the main actor, Jonathan Reese Myers, is a powerhouse of an actor, and I strongly recommend watching that show.
But I have, from that show, I've gained a new term, carnal knowledge.
Oh, 80 check.
Thank you for the 50.
Thank you.
Appreciate it, man.
We have a couple chats coming in.
But so there was no carnal knowledge with the warlock.
As in, was I tempted sexually?
No, like you had P and the V. Nope.
Sexual and of course.
No?
Okay.
Was there Sing the Does that?
I'm sorry.
Cheyenne Matthews.
I'm surprised I don't know that, but no, I know.
How do you not know this?
I don't know.
Sing the D.
I didn't do that.
No Sing the D?
Okay, I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
You gotta be careful with the warlocks.
Because sometimes.
And the ancients.
You know.
Anyways.
Let me read these chats real quick.
What is everyone's favorite movie, including Maddie, Andrew, and Gustavo, please?
Okay, go ahead.
Star Wars.
Casino.
Oh, good.
That's a good movie.
Butterfly Effect.
That's a good one, too.
Girl.
Beyond the Lights.
Life of Pie.
Are you sure you're okay?
Are you sure?
Let me just double.
I want to check here.
Let's do a little check-in.
Are you comfortable answering this question?
Go ahead.
Hacksaw Ridge.
Oh, okay.
That's a good one.
Coraline.
Oh, super bad.
The fault in our stars.
You guys back here?
Shrek.
Shrek too.
Gustavo.
Oh, Sarah's Peter isn't.
Bloody and blood out.
Are you Jamaican?
What the hell?
Bloody and blood out.
The fuck?
I thought this guy was Chilean.
Okay.
Bumba clot.
Okay.
Stop that.
Am I not allowed to say that?
No, I love it.
That's a curse word.
I just love it.
It means fuck.
Bumba clot is bad, yeah.
Say it all day.
Sorry.
I'm like, probably the whitest person to ever say that word.
Wait, what?
Oh, mine, my favorite?
That's hard.
I like The Matrix.
Matrix is good.
That's good.
It's a good one.
And I like shit.
Andrew, what about you?
Starship Troopers.
Really?
Yeah, service guarantee citizenship.
Oh, okay.
All right.
And then we have Nickelodeon here.
What's the difference between a hard D and a hard joke?
These holy hoes only find it hard to swallow the joke?
What?
Sweet.
Thank you, Nickelodeon.
Good one.
Let me read this one really quick.
Andrew, can you read this one?
Can you see this?
I can see it.
Yeah, it says, help me here, Andrew.
How do we change society when we have cell phones, computers, and instant gratification around every corner?
If we don't judge them and show them the folly of their degeneracy for their short-lived happiness, just love it away.
Why would you ask me that question?
Does it seem like I'm loving it away, or does it seem like I try to take people on where they're at?
Though he makes a good point.
He's talking about how technology has enabled the sexual revolution feminism, which has led to the current form of degeneracy.
But I digress.
I'm not going to dive too much into that.
Appreciate the 50 bucks.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So going around the table, continuing, why did your boyfriend, last boyfriend, dump you?
Yeah, I broke up with him because, you know, this was before Christ and we.
Was he a druid?
He was, he actually did play Blackfield.
Or shaman.
He was a mage main.
He played mage.
Yeah.
Typical.
Typical.
Anyways, you would date a mage.
Life on easy mode, being a mage.
Get those portals like to Orgramar and was he horde or alliance?
Horde.
Yeah.
AoE farming, like life on easy mode.
Anyways, so why did you dump him or whatever?
It's because he was a mage, right?
No.
Just because I think there was a lot of emotional cheating that was going on.
Emotional cheating.
Yeah, and then he had an issue with me being like doing like OnlyFans content.
And at the time, I couldn't see that.
I'm like, well, who cares?
Like, you know, like, why does that matter if I'm not the one doing anything?
And I couldn't see that hypocrisy.
So while in the meantime, I was upset with him for following OnlyFans Girls.
And it was just this ridiculous back and forth.
And we just couldn't come to a conclusion until I came to Christ and I realized like, oh my gosh, like I was wrong.
We were both wrong.
And I reached out to him and reconciled and asked for his forgiveness.
This is, I have a question that's totally unrelated.
And I forgot if it was Cheyenne.
Is it how do you say Cheyenne?
But did you say that we're made in the image of God?
I'm clear.
No, I know, but I forgot which one of you said.
But did you say that?
me.
But do you agree with her that we're made in the...
Yeah.
Okay.
I have a question for you.
And it's maybe semi-related to the question you refused to answer.
But I noticed that you're wearing color contacts.
I don't know biblically if there's anything there when it comes to altering your appearance, but you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
What is your question?
Well.
He's wondering if you wear the contact lenses because you think it makes you look better than if you wear glasses.
Yeah, I wear contacts because I think I look better in it than I do glasses.
That's like a half answer to the previous question.
Wait.
Oh, go ahead.
Is it coming full circle, Brian?
Is it coming full circle?
Yeah.
A little bit.
I have to say so.
What?
Am I on to something here?
I feel like I'm onto something with the colored contact contacts, but I don't know how to articulate it.
Well, so he's just wondering, like, clearly.
Clearly, you have some sort of self-rating for how it is that you must look and appear to other people because you yourself think you look better with the contacts than without the contacts.
So he's just saying, like, is that a glorification of God that you wear contact lenses instead of glasses?
Well, the point that I was making when I was coming on, when I was talking earlier about whether that question glorifies God is that I wasn't sure if it glorified God, so I'm going to stay on the safe side and not answer that question.
I have the answers to these questions, but I'm going to abstain, and I'm not going to entertain any sort of trying to squeeze out an answer from me.
Well, in this particular case, though, we're just all I'm doing is asking about consistency.
So if it is that I'm not answering question A because it's no glorification to God, is there glorification of God in you answering whether or not you wear contact lenses instead of glasses because you think that it makes other people think you're more attractive in some way?
Sorry.
I think the way that I see that is like me wearing the color green right now.
Like, is that glorifying to God?
Yeah, I can do that to the glory of God.
How?
What do you mean, how?
Can you elaborate yourself?
Yeah, how is it glorifying to God that you wear green because you think it makes you look better?
I think we have free will and we can choose what color to wear and you know.
I'm not asking about free will.
I'm asking about how you feel.
That's my answer to your question, is that how is that glorified to God?
Okay, well, how does free will explain how it glorifies God if you wear green?
The Bible says to do all things to the glory of God and even eating food.
So I can even ask you, like, how is eating food glorifying?
You're just asserting the claim.
You're just reasserting the claim.
I already know what the claim is.
Yeah, so I'm asking you how it does this thing.
Yeah, so I'm doing it to the glory of God that we have free will and we can choose what colors to wear, what foods to eat.
That's my answer.
Yeah, but how does it glorify God for you to wear green?
Without reasserting the claim that it does because it does, tell me how it does.
Free will and our ability to choose and that we're not just robots that wear gray or all, you know, wearing like black and white.
So that is my answer.
Well, free will would assert that you can wear green, even if it was not to the glory of God.
Not that you're wearing green because it is a glorification to him.
I think we can do all things to the glory of God, and that's what scripture says.
Yeah, I know.
I'm asking you how the color, you wearing the color green would be a glorification of God.
I'm so glad I'm not datinf donated $100.
So you too outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Matthew 23, 28, stop being self-righteous.
You make the of hoes seem tolerable.
Yeah, well, anyway, so back to the, the reason I'm asking this question, I'll just give you the answer.
The reason I'm asking this question as to how because I think Grid 1 Motorsports donated $100.
So I obviously missed something here.
Asian of Girl has nudes out on the internet, but she refused to rate her potential as a wife.
Wow.
God would love for you to be honest and genuine, do better.
That's correct.
I'm going to refuse to rate my potential wife and my looks.
Okay, so anyway.
Thank you, Grid One.
Just from my perspective, and I do love Grid 1, he's a good guy.
But from my perspective, I'm just trying to figure out how these things, how you came to the conclusion that this equates glorification of God.
You say, because I have free will.
Yes, you have free will.
Nobody's disputing that.
But you can use the free will for evil ends as well.
The question just becomes, how is you not wearing glasses and wearing contacts instead because you think it makes you look more attractive to another person is the glorification of God.
Without us making the assertion, another assertion, can you just tell me how, from your worldview, it does?
I'd be happy to maybe have this conversation with you like separately with another individual.
But on the podcast, like I've already explained that I'm not going to, you know, go further with the original question.
And people have expressed here that they're getting frustrated with this constant back and forth, so I won't answer anymore.
I'm not going to answer anymore.
I attest to that.
Go ahead.
Yeah, but who cares?
They just want their attention, right?
We're having a good exchange here.
It's not a good idea.
We're having a good exchange.
It's not that we want our attention.
We want to hear everyone's answer.
Yeah, I'm married to everybody.
I'm going to go down for a while.
We're almost done.
We just want to hear everyone forgetting our names and everything about this.
I've been on so many podcasts.
Let's go.
Move on.
Move on.
We don't want to hear about you.
Why did your boyfriend?
I broke up with him and I just wasn't feeling it anymore.
You weren't feeling it anymore.
Wow, it was so easy, right?
To answer.
Boom.
Boom.
Get it over with.
What do you mean you weren't feeling it?
I just wasn't feeling love for him and like, I just didn't want to be in a relationship anymore.
Okay.
It was a month.
It was only a month.
So it wasn't like I was like, you know.
All right.
Yeah.
It was easy.
There you go.
There you go, baby.
Yes.
Good girl.
She's never been in a relationship.
She's never been in a relationship.
We just parted ways and it just started to get physical.
Sorry to get.
Oh.
Oh, no.
After you parted ways.
Physical house.
Well, that's why I broke up with him.
Oh, I see.
Oh.
Oh, he did you said?
Good for you.
Cut that shit out.
So, like, immediately, once it got physical, you immediately broke up with him?
How do I stop?
Good.
Good.
It occurs to me oftentimes I hear from women saying, well, why are men scared of commitment?
Why are men scared of commitment?
Men are commitment phobic.
But when we went around the table here and I asked you sort of how what the downfall was of your last relationships, almost all of you said that you initiated the breakups.
And it occurs to me that, and perhaps we could go around the table really quickly on this, more often than not, actually just show of hands.
More often than not, in any scenario where you're, and it could be early on, like a couple dates and you're saying, eh, not really feeling it all the way to long term, been dating for years.
More often than not, are you pumping the brakes and ending things long term or short term?
Or is the guy?
So show of hands more often than not if you're ending it.
I'm like really like in the middle.
It's been like super 50-50 for me.
It's me.
Absolutely.
Always you.
I wouldn't have wanted to.
I would have just wanted to fix it.
Same.
For all your relationships, though.
More often than not, are you ending show of hands if you're ending things more often than not?
Okay, so it occurs to me then: women often complain, like I said, of men being scared of commitment, but if women are overwhelmingly ending relationships, and also we have the divorce statistics, women are overwhelmingly initiating divorce.
Do men have reason?
It's not one, I don't even think if it's clear to me that men are scared of commitment, but maybe they righteously do have a reason to be scared of it because women overwhelmingly end relationships.
And then secondly, why is it that you guys so desperately want commitment, but then when you get it, you guys overwhelmingly end said relationships?
Fear was commitment.
That's why it was ended.
I think fears.
That they're going to leave you.
Wait, you.
So you back out.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I think women just want commitment from the right person.
If it's not the right person, they're going to end.
But I'm assuming this is like you got commitment, right?
Perhaps not in the short-term one, but in the long-term relationships, I'm assuming you guys had commitment to.
So you're talking about commitment, not like long-term relationships.
Not emotionally relationships or like dating.
Well, I mean, I'm speaking more so with long-term relationships.
Okay.
What's the crickets?
That's it, bitch.
Okay.
I didn't.
Checkmate, I guess.
I just wasn't in love the one time that I was in that long-term relationship.
We were almost married.
I just didn't want to.
I wanted to have that feeling of love and I didn't feel like it was right for him because I didn't want to be selfish and just be like, this is great, we're best friends, everything's great, but I also want better for him.
I want him to find that girl that's going to be absolutely obsessed with him.
And I didn't want to just do it because my family loved it and he, you know what I mean?
I wanted him to find that.
Well, my long-term relationship, it ended because we both just grew apart.
It just, it was, we were like roommates at one point.
It just, it was no longer a sexual or romantic thing.
It was like a roommate vibe.
Dead bedroom?
Yes, essentially.
Like having sex once a year.
Oh, wow.
Whose fault was that?
Both of our fault.
He had a job in the night life working at a nightclub and I was an eight to five graphic designer.
So we had very opposite hours.
Right, I see.
Yeah.
And so we just grew apart.
Interesting.
All right.
Well, going, so we've gotten a bit of a rundown on all of your most recent relationships and how they ended to some degree.
So going back to the question of what does being single actually mean?
You've got some attractive girls at the table.
I'm sure there's some guys in the DMs or you're dating them or you're having sex behind the nightclub.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm single.
I'm going to just mingle.
When's the last time you were on a date with a guy?
Two weeks ago.
Two weeks ago?
Yeah.
When's the last time you had carnal knowledge of a man?
I think this is a really great question.
I don't even have a question answer.
Truthfully.
Today?
Yes.
Can you please explain the term again?
What do you mean?
Oh, oh, fuck.
Okay, yeah, we had sex.
Today?
Two weeks ago.
Oh, today, yes.
You had sex today.
But the last time you went on a date was two weeks ago.
And yeah, I had sex.
Okay.
With the guy you went on a date with two weeks ago?
Wait.
Her best friends.
Like, I know everything.
She knows all that.
Was it a different guy?
Shut up.
Yes, it was.
is a different guy.
So you went on a, so I'm curious.
Went on a date, yeah.
I did not.
Have you ever gone on a date with the guy that you had sex with today?
No, I didn't go on a date today with that guy.
No, have you ever gone on a date with him?
Yes.
Yes, I have.
Okay.
Yeah.
But you don't count like the first date.
Having sex is.
Oh, nah.
I don't count that.
It was just like we had sex, it was great.
And I was like, see ya.
Was it like you went over there today or you spent the night yesterday typed?
It was like I spent the night like last week.
Oh.
He's talking about today, this morning.
No, I haven't.
I didn't explain it what it was.
What?
Yes.
Manuel Ferrara.
Who's that?
Wait, hold on.
Famous porn star.
Who the fuck is that guy?
They all know.
They know who he is.
All these guys.
Well, you already asked me what I do.
Oh, so it was for work then?
Yeah.
Why are you trying to tell me or make it sound like that?
I thought it was more like.
It was not a date.
Because you don't, I assume you don't consider that like.
A date, I do not.
Not a date, but like, let's say it was just a civilian.
Or like, let's say it wasn't for work, but it was still like a someone else in the industry.
Like a one-night stand.
Off-camera, you mean like I don't do off-camera.
You don't know.
On-camera, off-camera.
That's what you mean.
If I have off-camera sex, I'm actually going on a date with the guy.
Like, if they want to go on a date, which sometimes they do.
And I'm just like, all right, cool.
Well, this is what I do.
How many scenes do you do per week?
I'm not mainstream, so I don't really do like that many.
When I travel for work, that's when I'm doing scenes.
But I'm collabing.
So probably like if I'm out here for like one week, I'll do five five scenes with different different men.
Hell yeah.
Okay, I see.
All right.
And then are you, aside from the scenes that you're doing for your work, are you sexually active?
Are you pursuing any men romantically?
Not really.
I flirt with people.
Would you guys date another guy who's in the industry?
Okay.
Okay.
So you flirt, but no carnal knowledge.
Nah.
Not really.
Okay.
All right.
Do you have a roster currently?
What's a roster mean, like explain?
Scheduled guys.
Like you got multiple guys you're currently entertaining.
You may or may not be sleeping with them.
Oh, you're talking about like dating-wise?
Like a roster dating-wise.
There's like wait, as opposed to sexuality.
I thought you were talking about like my work's neutral.
No.
Personally.
There's like one or two guys.
There's one guy.
Okay.
One and a half.
Any one and a half?
Okay.
There's really one guy.
But have you guys had carnal knowledge?
No, can you just say something?
Like three years ago?
Three years ago?
He's a college sweetheart type of dude.
Which community college was it?
It was not community college.
Oh, oops.
Sorry, my bad.
Which, oh, maybe you don't want to say it on the side.
Switch a comedian.
Champlain College.
It's an art college.
In Vermont.
All right.
So what about you?
Do you have a roster right now?
I don't have a roster.
No roster?
Never had a roster?
No.
Never had a roster?
Actually, I'm a very demisexual person, like in my personal life for the last few years.
I've just been through so much shit with guys.
I'll be honest.
This is just honesty.
Demi.
Make the funny noises.
What is demi?
Demisexual is like.
I used to need like a strong connection so I could say that, so now you don't used to, now you, now it doesn't matter no, it doesn't matter.
So now it's like work related.
So, like I said, I was a nurse for 13 years.
I was a neonatal ICU nurse.
I was the good girl that you guys love.
Up until 35 nurses are red flags, to be honest.
Okay, that's fine, that's a red flag for you, it's a projection.
But I was it like studied red flag.
Were you a travel nurse?
Nope, I was a neonatal ICU nurse.
I took care of just you.
Never traveled.
RN RNA red flag.
Okay, that's your red flag.
That's not huge red flag for you, for is that for society?
Is that like studied?
Is that like what?
A lot of dudes, a lot of dudes, who is these?
A lot of dudes, a lot of dudes, a lot of dudes on your show.
Or just like, is it studied in general?
Okay cool, in general.
Trust trust, trust.
Okay, there's a lot of nurses out there.
We've all had our, our experiences.
I think nurses are great and we need them in society.
So I think we should stop saying stuff like that, because there's not gonna be a shortage of nurses soon for people like you that say that and say that nurses are red flags.
You, you think there's gonna be a shortage of nurses?
Yes, there absolutely is gonna be a shortage, because we get treated like shit.
No, we get treated like shit in the workplace.
We don't make enough money, because if I made enough money, I wouldn't be a porn star on the internet.
Nurses make pretty good money.
No, we don't.
Yeah, they do.
Let's go.
Let's have this debate right now.
Can I ask something?
Yeah, sure.
You said that you wouldn't make money.
You wouldn't be doing porn work if I made more money as a nurse?
Absolutely not.
Never.
How much were you making?
So I live in New York City, I live in Brooklyn.
As a single woman, I was a nurse for 13 years.
I started my career at $80,000 a year.
So after two full weeks of working, the most intensive job, handing people their dead babies, I had a very stressful job.
And I love to say this, and I love to say what nursing is really like sometimes.
So I would come home, my paycheck would be like $800, $900 after taxes in New York City.
So after two weeks of full work, stressed out 16-hour days dealing with the most stressful job, I was at a breaking point.
I was 13 years in.
I would have had to work another 33 years as a nurse.
And I feel like it needs to change in society.
And we need to just be serious about it and have conversations about it because I wouldn't choose what I'm doing now.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
So they're.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I did actually have a study for nurses.
I thought you might find it interesting.
So it is true that nurses do not have more sexual contacts than women not working in their profession.
Point for you, right?
But more often betray their partners up to 25% more often.
And more than other women, they have more, far more oral sex, 70% to 50%, anal sex, 31% to 18%.
They're far more promiscuous across the board.
Okay.
If it's a fact, it's a fact.
What I'm saying is, let me go back to what I was saying as a nurse and why I made this decision to do what I do now.
Okay, you can go back to what you were saying.
I just wanted to ask you a question.
Thank you for that little clip that I've been talking about.
You had asked if there was a study of any kind.
And yes, this actually, though, the research is.
But that's not a red flag.
That's just the study.
Is that a red flag?
Infidelity is definitely a greater likely.
Yeah, infidelity.
Oh, but you didn't say infidelity.
You just said we're more likely to have anal sex, oral sex, this.
No, he mentioned it.
Okay, just saying, no, no, infidelity, 25% more likely to step out of the partner.
I was like, Grace and Adams.
I've actually never cheated on somebody, and I'm a nurse in my life.
In general, in general, I mean, in my life, I've never cheated on somebody, actually.
Yeah, we understand you may not have.
We're just looking at why nurses would be a red flag or not.
Okay, I get that.
It's studied.
I get it.
I'm not making a judgment on nurses in terms of their opinion.
I'm going to come from an audience.
One motivating court.
One must ask at this point what mind and mood altering substances are these folks on.
Guessing it is a long list.
Crazy/slash hot matrix in full effect.
Cool.
Okay, anyway, let's get back to our conversation.
It's important.
Actually, I'm not really that interested in those.
In nurses and red flags?
No?
No, just in the explanation of, well, here's what I'm doing.
You don't want to hear.
I think people should want to hear about why I decided to fuck on the internet instead of actually taking care of dying and sick children and being a great thing in society, which men would consider me a high-value woman.
Well, I mean, when you put it that way.
Okay, yes.
Yes.
Let's go.
Because you donated $100.
Nurses are completely full of themselves.
You do not have the hardest job in the world.
The Lance Corporal getting shot at has the hardest job in the world.
You're not a victim.
You're a thought.
So, nurses are thoughts?
No, he's saying you're.
I think that's a good question.
So I'm asking questions.
Nurses are thoughts.
You apostrophe RE.
I don't think he's made.
So I'm a thought.
Okay, I'm a thought now.
But let me go back a few years ago when I was a nurse in an ICU.
I didn't say one of the hardest jobs.
It's actually in the goodest book of World Records.
You could look it up.
Nursing school is very challenging.
I'm a very educated person.
Nursing's the hardest job.
It's one of the hardest.
It's very hard.
Wait, can we, Nick?
Can you pull up the paper?
Hold on, Nick.
Nursing school.
Nursing school.
I've got a lot of videos on the fucking boat.
Pull up those boat videos.
Wait, there's.
I love how we can't answer my question about why I became a OnlyFans money and talking about.
Nursing's the hardest job.
What about like underwater?
So would you be able to hand somebody their dying children?
You think it's hard or not?
Emotionally, mentally, physically, educationally?
How do you think it's not hard?
Do you be able to do it?
It's probably difficult.
Okay, it's difficult.
It's a hard job.
Probably that's another, probably all the trauma that you see working that sort of job probably extends into the relationships that you have with men.
It does.
Which actually you're arguing for my point for why women who are nurses can be a red flag dealing with a lot of trauma in the workplace, and that's going to have an impact in the relationship.
So there should be therapy for nurses.
You can get that on your own time.
But if you're looking at my insurance paper, the insomnia, I actually tried to get a sleep study.
They put me on Ambien.
A lot of stuff.
Exhibit A. Exhibit A.
I have a red flag, right?
I'm a red flag?
I mean, by your own self-admission, you're saying, because of my work.
I'm passionate about what I do.
Here are all the negative consequences that I've encountered in my life.
A lot of negative consequences.
And a lot of men don't want to date women with that sort of baggage.
So why would anyone want to be a nurse?
Should we change this?
I'm not saying it's a bad job.
Not call nurses red flags.
It's very triggering to somebody like me where I wanted to actually take care of people.
I wanted to do better in life and I wanted to be this person that I wanted to work and make a difference.
And I get hit with that.
My ex-boyfriend, one of my boyfriends, left me because I would come home and I would cry and I would take my job home.
And I know you're stressed out or you're like irritated.
I don't look irritated.
Here you say.
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, just let her finish.
So you would have a tough day at all.
And you'd go home to your boyfriend and you'd what?
He'd say, I don't want to hear about your job and your day at work because I don't want to take your.
And I understand that as a person now that's how is that not a red flag?
I was in my early 20s.
How is that not a undesirable scenario with a partner?
Yes.
But I understand that because I wouldn't want to deal with that either sometimes.
Someone coming home.
Then why do you object to me saying you have first-hand experience on this?
Why do you object?
Hold on, let me finish.
Why do you object to me saying it's a red flag when you yourself have a bad thing?
You said nurses are red flags, but not all nurses come home and do that.
Well, why risk it?
What do you mean, why risk what?
Well, I mean, look, he cited the infidelity.
He cited the infidelity study.
Okay.
Nursing in general, in my understanding, is a stressful job.
A lot of people bring their stress in their workplace back to their home life, back to their relationships.
So good for you.
You're making more money than somebody who perhaps has a simpler job as a nurse.
Would you rather date me as an OnlyFans girl because I left because of the stress?
Am I more desirable now or as a nurse?
Answer that question.
Oh, the OFA.
Wait, what?
What do you mean?
You would be more desirable as a nurse to date as an OnlyFans.
The OF is worse.
Okay, the OF is worse.
I'd rather date me as a nurse.
So I should have stayed as a nurse to find a man, right?
Maybe I'd be married.
Hang on, I'm trying to answer your question, right?
So here, let me answer your question.
Okay.
Yes, it would be more desirable to date a nurse over an OnlyFans girl.
But that does not negate the fact that there would still be red flags associated with nurses.
Why would these things exclude each other?
You know, being doctor.
To be charitable.
Hang on.
To be charitable to you.
You are right.
I did confirm what you said, which it is true that nursing, a nursing degree is one of the hardest ranked degrees to get.
So to be maximum charitable to you, you were correct about that.
But that does not negate whether or not for dating, that would be a red flag or not.
Okay.
Would you go on a date with a nurse?
Yeah, I've dated nurses.
And I have first-hand experience having dated nurses also when it comes to specifically, I know there's obviously nurses who are kind of geographically locked.
They don't have plans to move.
But travel nurses, for example, I mean, if they've had 20 previous assignments, they've been in a place for three months.
In my head, and I see you on a dating app, I'm thinking like that's some flight attendant shit.
In each new city, you fucked a bunch of other dudes.
And that's another conversation when it comes to body count.
But a travel nurse, if she's on a dating app, she was on a dating app in each one of those cities and she's looking for a short-term thing.
That means her body count has ramped up.
That's assuming she gets with just one guy in that city.
It could be two, it could be three, it could be a dozen.
Okay.
So travel nurse is a major.
So is that a study?
Travel nurses are more promiscuous?
Well, simply by virtue.
More sex with more guys in different cities.
I don't think there's a study, but if you're like, well, hold on, let me answer.
Let me answer.
Let me answer the question.
The answer is yes.
Well, let me just answer.
I just want to know.
Well, simply by virtue, if you move to a new geographical region every three months versus someone who's locked in one location, who's more likely to end up in a long-term relationship?
Somebody that's not traveling.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's not, look, you could be a travel nurse and be a virgin, but just by virtue of you constantly moving, you're probably not going to be able to lock down.
If you're going from New York and I'm moving over to you.
Travel nursing.
Like if I took a travel nurse job, I don't think I'd be looking for a relationship because I don't know if you'd be fucking.
I wouldn't say I would be fucking.
I'd be working.
You know, we work a lot.
So my days off, when I was in the world.
No, I'm almost 40 years old.
Did you ever when I was like in my early 20s?
I don't care.
I hate clubs.
Have you been on dating apps?
Nope.
Okay.
What's your body count?
I don't actually have a little book in my house where I write it down and I'm like, today I had sex with this person and it's my body count.
I don't know.
But I can say that when before I'm doing what I'm doing right now, I probably could have counted in the last three or four years, even being on OnlyFans, how many people I've had sex with on one hand.
Okay.
And I've been monogamous on OnlyFans as well.
Laugh at me.
Well, I'm not actually laughing at you.
No, you weren't.
This guy behind me was I.
I wanted to engage with you a little bit on this.
She called you out, though.
So I don't know.
It's not funny.
I'm being honest.
Like, I'm not lying.
I'm here to be honest.
Well, I mean, good.
That's why I want to engage on this with you, if you don't mind.
No, I absolutely want to talk about it.
Yeah.
I want to talk about it because I want to talk about it.
I want to change the stigma and everything.
Yeah.
So Brian is saying that just by nature of somebody who's in a travel capacity of any kind, whether it's male or female, and there are studies which back this up.
But I'm not even sure that you would need them because it kind of just goes to logic that if you're traveling around, opportunities come up far more than if you are based in a home and go to a single area for work.
Nope.
There's almost, but you just agreed that logically.
Nurses work three to four days a day.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
You literally just agreed not more than five minutes ago with Brian that it stands to reason that somebody who traveled would have more opportunity for these things than not.
And now you're changing your energy.
I changed my mind actually, the way it makes sense because when I was a nurse, I worked three to four days a week.
And those days that I was off, it doesn't matter if I'm in a different city or in my city.
And if I want to go out and party and hang out and like meet guys, it doesn't matter if I'm in a different city or in my city.
It's the same thing.
Yeah, but if you're a person who travels, if you're a traveling nurse or a traveling salesman, it wouldn't matter.
You're going to be introduced to a much wider array for people.
Therefore, there's more opportunity for intermingling.
That's the point.
Have you ever fucked in the hospital?
Never, ever.
I actually took a code of ethics as a nurse, and we weren't allowed to do specific things.
And it was very serious, laughed about it, but I couldn't dress up as a nurse for Halloween.
There's different things.
You take a code of ethics and you have to actually respect your job in a specific way.
I didn't take nude photos when I was a nurse.
I was still on OnlyFans, but I just sold specific type of content until I left my job.
And I respected my profession, and I always will.
Okay.
Well, I don't think we need to linger too long on the nursing thing, but you do OnlyFans 2, correct?
Yeah, and I have real estate investments, so like I'm an Airbnb super host and whatnot.
Can you scoot your mic a little closer?
What do you do on OF?
Is it solo content, PG?
When I'm in a relationship, I do boy girl content.
Okay.
So it's like if I'm dating someone, then I have done boy girl.
So like I'll use that person and like we can have threesomes together and like I'll collab with like point star females with whoever guy I'm dating.
Sure.
But that's pretty much it's like what I've done.
Cheyenne, you used to be involved in that life.
Why don't you give us in your pre-show notes, you gave us kind of like a little synopsis on your background a little bit.
If you can, unfortunately, I think I mentioned this.
I lost all my notes.
But so if you can restate kind of your background.
Oh, sure.
And I didn't know if this was a word that we couldn't use as like the code of conduct in the beginning.
Can we say the P-word P-O-R-N?
I just didn't know if we could say it.
Because someone told something about it.
We just say that.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So we, okay.
Adult work is adult work, adult content.
Okay, cool.
So I'll just tell a little bit of how I grew up.
So my mother was a madam, actually.
So, and it's pretty rare because she wasn't, she's Asian, you know.
So usually Asians are like, you know, like goody tushus, but my mom was a rebel for sure.
And I grew up in a highly sexualized environment.
I started masturbating when I was five years old, you know.
And so I grew up taking care of my sisters.
All of our dads are different.
You know, dads were absent.
And so I was a dancer.
I also was in the adult film.
And then I also was an escort.
I had tons of sugar daddies in LA, New York, every state.
I had a sugar daddy.
You know, so that's that's I believe.
Every state?
Like Wyoming?
A lot.
Probably not that one.
North Dakota.
That's so random.
No, because it's not the city.
Maybe I was exaggerating a bit.
Oh.
I was exaggerating.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
Boise?
No.
Did you have one in Boise, Idaho?
No.
I'm from Ohio originally, though.
It's close.
What do you mean?
You grew up in a highly sexualized environment?
What does that mean?
Yeah.
Not sure we want to go there.
Okay.
Yeah.
But you said your mom had a brothel, basically.
She was a madame.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So I basically had a very...
You said you escorted sugar daddies in every city?
Yeah, like a lot of cities.
A lot of cities, right?
And so that's basically how I built my life when I first moved to LA six years ago when I was 20.
I was also fresh out of a divorce.
I got married for five months, got a divorce, was traumatized, moved out here.
And I wanted to comment on what you guys were saying too.
Yeah, like I'll be honest, like, yeah, a lot of girls have a lot of trauma.
Guys do too.
We all have trauma.
And when we get in relationships, you know, like both of the traumas just collide, you know?
And I will admit, like, I've broken up with every one of my boyfriends, and I'll admit that.
And I'm not proud of that.
It was due to my own trauma.
And also, I couldn't handle what they were putting on me because of my background, because I'm still in the healing process.
And that's where Jesus comes in, right?
Like, once you surrender, he starts to heal you.
It doesn't happen overnight, but that's like where I'm at, and that's why I'm single because I'm not healed yet, like fully with certain things that God has to change and morph in the character of my heart in order to have a healthy relationship.
So, you did, were you in the mainstream adult industry?
Did you also do OF too?
It's so funny because before OF was a thing, I knew about it and I made an account, but I never posted.
But then I sold things on Snapchat before OF.
Wait, I don't know if you're did you operate as in the as Cheyenne Matthews?
No, okay, I've had a few aliases.
A few aliases?
Yeah.
Do you share those or no?
Oh, wait, that's gonna, oh, God.
That doesn't sound like I'm like soliciting so I can search it for it later.
I swear, I was just curious if you, if like there's a, were you pretty popular when you were doing this?
Like, well known in the space, I guess.
No comment.
Okay, I think you know.
Well, I don't know.
I haven't seen any of your shit, but uh, okay.
So you used, you said you, when did you start escorting?
Ooh, um, man, 18.
Okay.
Yeah.
And were you stripped?
Did you strip at all?
Yes.
Okay.
And you were like hustling sugar daddies and shit?
Yes.
What was the hustle?
Did you have some tricks?
Yes.
Marks?
Yes.
What's the term?
Everything.
Marks?
Tricks?
John's?
Honestly, like, I'll say this too.
I used to have a different vocabulary.
Like, I grew up in like a very, you know, ghetto environment.
You said you're half Asian, half white.
you filipina or what's so technically i have korean and japanese native american and european Okay, go.
So I speak Korean fluently too.
So thank you, Grandma.
Yeah.
Anybody in Seoul?
Like you said, you had some sugar daddies and no, no, no, no, not there.
I tried, but it didn't work out because I was only there for two weeks and it just they were robots.
Okay, so you escorted.
Yeah.
When did you stop escorting?
Last year, May 15th of last year.
Okay.
How many clients over the entire course of your escorting career did you have?
Whew, I don't know.
Hundreds for sure.
Hundreds?
Yeah.
In escorting.
Yeah.
And then how many sugar daddies total do you think you had?
You know, it's interesting because, like, I had one for six years and I cut it off with him last year.
And it was, you know, part of it, and this is just the human side, you know, because we're all human.
Like, I was very attached to, I didn't love him in a romantic way.
I was attached because of the attention he gave me and the money with it.
And I didn't grow up with my dad.
And so definitely the father wound and the mother wound played a part in the way he treated me.
And so it was really tough to cut it off with some of the sugar daddies because of that, you know, and but I did, you know, and I've replaced that, you know, with just every time I feel lonely or if I feel like I get triggered, because you know, we all have triggers.
We all have triggers, we all have trauma, you know, and if I get lonely, I just start to pray or I'll go into like a fast or read scripture.
And I'm honestly, it just fills me.
It fills that void.
It fills that loneliness.
It fills that depression or anxiety that's trying to seep in again.
Because I used to be depressed for years, especially when I had my marriage and when I was, I had a lot of relationships as well.
Yeah.
Okay.
So on the, what's it called?
I'm always curious about opening this up to the rest of the table.
Who here has had a sugar daddy?
I currently have three.
You have three?
I've only had one.
One?
What about you?
Never had?
Never had?
No.
Well, what about the OF guys?
No.
They're like sugar daddies.
That's my content.
They're digital sugar daddy.
Digital sugar daddies.
I've been like the sugar mama.
What about you?
Me too.
And the sugar mama.
I've been sugar mama, too.
And then the sugar mama.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
What do you mean?
So you've had one?
One, like, actual one, yeah.
Okay.
You've had three.
You've had, sounded like countless.
Yeah.
Have you had any sugar daddies?
Or is this an abstain?
No, I don't have to.
Like, can we define what sugar daddy is?
It's like one person giving money to.
Yeah, like there's an extra-specific amount of money.
That's like excluding OnlyFans type of stuff, right?
That doesn't count.
Or it does count.
Well, if you have a whale or something.
A whale.
Okay, well, then you're going to.
They're kind of going back on that one.
They're kind of similar.
I don't consider whales sugar daddy.
They're a little bit similar.
They're kind of similar.
I mean, my sugar daddy was literally overseas.
It was a digital allowance, like to live your life, like pay the rent.
Just pay me $500 here and give you a sugar daddy reason.
For example, sugar.
I was afraid you should have to give a sugar daddy sugar.
Or it's not intentional.
Stop.
Opposite.
Go ahead.
So, for example, like I was like a Twitch streamer, and obviously Twitch doesn't allow that kind of content, like per se.
And so it's like, are you talking about people who was donating through Twitch as well?
No, like somebody where it's more like you have a direct communication line.
No.
And okay.
Nope.
No sugar daddy.
No, we're just scammers.
What's that?
They're just scammers.
Yeah, most of them are scammers.
I had a guy, he sent me a Buffalo Wild Wing check for like $5,000.
Or $5,000.
Yeah, I still have a lot of people.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Wait, so coming back to you, you said you had one.
What was the arrangement?
Well, it was he met me through Instagram and he would just send me money and I would kind of like send videos to him and sometimes we would FaceTime and just like I would undress like strip.
Did you ever meet in person?
Nope.
That's not a sugar daddy.
What kind of privilege?
Would he just send you cash or would he pay for a certain cash at me?
I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
Andrew, here we go.
He's chiseled, body count low, hung like a bull moose, rich, six feet two inches, etc. Invited you over.
Next to his bed, fully loaded almond light AR-15, 30-round magazine in a safe.
Your reaction?
Ooh.
Red flag.
I'm with it.
Sounds sexy.
So you're.
I think he's asking, would you proceed with this man who has a AR-15?
Let's assume he's a responsible and legal gun owner.
Is he hot?
Hell yeah.
I mean, he's six.
Yeah.
If he's like responsible, yeah.
You said red flag.
I hate to see what he looks like.
Well, the assumption in the eyes of the game.
Is he hot?
Like, he's hot.
You would be super attracted to him.
I would be.
Hell yeah.
Is the AR-15 a deal breaker?
Is what he's asking.
I don't really like guns.
Is it a deal breaker?
It's not a deal breaker.
I'm uncomfortable around it.
I don't remember.
What if you were super attracted to him and you walked in and there was a room?
He just had a wall filled the room with the AR-15.
He thought they were great.
I don't think it's weird.
Why do you have to be a little bit of a five-year wall?
Before we go in, let's let the girls answer.
Go ahead.
If the AR-15 would make me uncomfortable, what would you do?
You're attracted to the guy.
Would it be a distance?
Assume it's a guy you're attracted to, but you go to his place and you see that he has an AR-15 firearm.
I'd like him more.
Okay.
I'm asexual, so nothing's going on regardless.
You're what?
I'm asexual.
I mean, that's.
Okay, let's just.
You're romantic.
Wait, you're asexual?
Hold on.
But you're sugar daddies?
With three sugar daddies.
We have an agreement.
It's got three fucking boxes.
You said a whole wall of guns, though.
Like, is it one gun or a whole wall?
Like, I got a different.
Wait, so let's just assume you're romantically interested in him.
Do you lose romantic interest because of the guns?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
No, I've had situations where they have guns to protect themselves, and it makes me feel safe, but I've also seen people with guns that I've dated.
It was for another reason, so I wouldn't be scared.
Yeah, it would depend on what's the reason.
So I wouldn't.
Yeah, then that's fine.
Yeah, it's fine.
Yeah, I wouldn't care.
I think I'd be more turned on, not gonna lie.
Yeah.
I still wouldn't care.
Okay, so you and you had an issue with it.
Why?
I think it's kind of weird that you need guns, multiple guns.
Let me ask you.
Maybe we have one gun for protection, but why do you need multiple guns?
Well, let's just say it's one.
One gun?
That's not a problem for me.
Okay, but multiple guns.
My dad has a gun.
It's not a problem.
But multiple, like you said, a room full of guns.
It's kind of a little weird.
I mean, just to extrapolate.
I'm curious as to why one gun is a deal breaker or not a deal breaker, but 1,000 guns would be.
I think it's a distinction there.
It's a hobby at that point, and it's a weird hobby for me.
Why is it weird?
It's weird.
Why do you need a bunch of guns?
Why do you need to be on OnlyFans?
That has nothing to do with guns.
Am I aggressive?
Am I collecting aggressive things?
If you're asking in an abstract, why does a person need X?
I don't think OnlyFans girls are like collecting guns.
I don't know.
I don't like it.
What would that have to do with anything?
I'm very uncomfortable around guns.
If you're asking in this abstract of why does a person need to do X, he doesn't need to do it.
What's the problem with him doing it?
It's just something that I wouldn't feel comfortable around a lot of guns.
I just wouldn't.
Yeah, I mean, does that, is it telling you something about him?
Do you think that it kind of pushes some sort of ideologies or an ideological distinction?
What's the problem?
So I've been in abusive relationships in the past, and steroids, guns, things like that, maybe playing violent video games were a trait of men that kind of had this violent tendency in my personal life and my experience.
I'm not saying all men that collect guns.
So for me personally, it would be a red flag if I walked into the house and I saw a lot of guns.
What if he was a cop?
I still don't know why a cop needs to have a lot of guns at his house.
Well, I mean, I guess my understanding of your kind of pushback here is that abuse, abusive men have guns.
I think it's a little weird that men would collect a room of guns.
I think it is.
Why?
They have lots of value and they go up in value every year.
It's a great investment.
So are Birkins.
You think that's a red flag for women to have a lot of expensive bags?
No, those go down in value every year.
Birkins and like Chanel bags?
Basically, all fashion items.
Do Chanel bags go down in value, ladies?
All Chanel bags?
No, it usually actually goes up.
So I think that you.
I'm talking in generalities here.
Fashion items are going to go down in value.
So, all guns go up.
Guns are always, all guns go up in value every year, yes.
I still don't want a bunch of guns in my significant other's house.
I have a niece and nephew.
I don't want to walk in to, I just wouldn't feel comfortable.
If he has them all locked up, he just has a wall of them.
I said, A gun is okay.
I don't want a wall of guns.
I would personally feel uncomfortable.
I'm allowed to feel uncomfortable around a lot of guns.
It's just weird.
Yeah, you're allowed to.
I'm just wondering what the reasoning for why you feel that way is.
It just is just an inanimate object.
It's just kind of, it's scary to me.
You see it in movies and videos, and it's like always in a violent way.
You're not like, hey, I'm just fun.
I just wouldn't want to be around them.
Accidents happen, and I'm just very like, I just don't, I don't, I don't like it.
It makes me uncomfortable.
If you're in an abusive relationship, I have been.
Would you rec, yeah, why is it that you wouldn't recommend the one tool which can equalize force between men and women that a woman doesn't get?
That a woman doesn't get, that a man would have?
No, no, no.
The only thing which can equalize force between men and women is a gun.
Okay.
That's the only force equalizer which is even possible.
But it's not like I own the guns and I have access and keys and I can go in there and use his guns.
Yeah, but if you were a person who was abused or has been a victim of abuse, wouldn't you want to own a gun?
No.
I feel very safe in my living situation where I live and I don't feel like I need a gun there.
Yeah, I know, but generally for abuse victims, don't you think they'd want to own a gun?
Not all abuses.
Considering it's the only thing that can equalize force.
Do you think that people that have been abused need to have a gun to protect themselves?
Not all abuses.
I'm sorry, say that again?
So not, I wouldn't feel like a gun, I wouldn't want to have a gun on me.
I wouldn't want to use a gun.
That could ruin my life just because I was in a situation like I don't I wouldn't.
How would a gun ruin your life?
If it was an argument and it went off in a situation, I wouldn't want to do it.
Guns don't go off in arguments.
What do you mean?
You can't kind of be in an argument and a gun's going to go off.
Guns don't jump off the shelf because you're in an argument.
No, a gun doesn't make me feel safe.
A gun does not make me feel safe against an abusive man.
Is that just because you don't know how to use one?
I just don't want a gun.
I'm allowed to not want to have a gun in my home.
Yeah, you're allowed to.
I was just curious.
I just wanted to dive in a little bit because it seems to me that if you were a female and you were concerned because you had been an abuse victim in the past, that the one tool which exists which could equalize force between men and women, I would think that women would want that.
Do women want that?
Do you guys feel like you want to?
I would love to learn how to shoot a gun and use it for protection at all times.
Okay, anyone else?
I would.
Smart.
I would do that.
That's fucking smart, by the way.
That's smart.
I really want to learn.
Like, yeah, for safety reasons.
I have mace next to my door.
You can't bring mace to a gunfight, though.
I'm not going to.
I don't think I'm going to.
I'm just saying.
What if someone comes up to you?
It's like you're getting robbed.
Yeah.
Like, if you're getting robbed, you need to protect yourself.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having guns.
I don't think I need a gun to protect myself.
I don't put myself in situations where I'm like, I don't go out late at night.
I live in New York.
I'm not like walking around Coney Island late at night with a gun.
Hang on, hang on.
Real quick, I just want to make sure that I get this right.
Over to the gal.
I'm sorry, near the center.
I can't remember your name.
Far end of the table on the far right.
One of the Christian two.
Oh.
Not.
Yeah, you.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
What's your name again?
Oh, yes, Cheyenne.
Cheyenne.
Okay.
So I just want to make sure that I have this right, but I just got a clip sent over to me that at roughly 52 minutes in, this is when I'm hearing it anyway, when you were asked if you were celibate, you said yes since last night?
Oh no, last May.
Not last night.
Right, no.
Okay.
Okay.
I was just making sure.
Okay.
That's all.
So anyway.
Yeah, but anyway, back to this, you know, on the on the gun discussion.
So most of you gals, you would say that since this is an equalizer, a force equalizer, your preference would be to know how to use one and have one.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
The only thing is that I heard like an argument that I kind of thought about was that because men are stronger and bigger than us, if we have a weapon, they can always like wrestle it out of us and use it against us.
But that doesn't really deter me from wanting to have one, just to be more trained.
And for that purpose, I actually started training like BJJ.
Fuck yeah.
So, you know, just well, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Why would you think that if a guy could wrestle a gun away from you, which is about the deadliest object you can have, that he's not going to have a massive advantage over you if you know Brazilian jiu-jitsu?
Because if you know anything about the sport, Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a great way to maneuver bigger weights.
It's not.
Yeah, have you also seen how many men with no training go up against women who have Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu training and still overpower them easily?
Yeah, so in my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu class, like one of her friends, she's a purple belt, and she was attacked by two people and she broke all their legs.
And it was like on the news.
Yeah, so that never happened.
You can say that.
Assuming that literally that never happened.
Your friend was not attacked by two men.
You can look it up.
Okay, what is it called?
I'll look it up right now.
You can look it up.
I'm going to look it up.
Four foot 11 girl attacks.
Your 4'11-year-old, or 4-foot-11-inch girlfriend did not break a bunch of men's legs when she was in the game.
She wasn't 11, though.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, that's insane.
I want to see the proof.
There's a video?
I'll know what I walked back in on, but that sounded like that.
That sounded ridiculous.
It is absolutely ridiculous.
Stuff that never happened for 500.
Yeah, I got that never happened for 1,000.
Literally.
What's the video called?
It's not a video.
It was on the news, and that was something that my classmate had said, and that was her close friend.
Oh, okay.
So a friend of a friend of yours said that.
It was on the news.
Did you actually see it yourself?
If I could continue what I'm saying, you can see it.
Yeah, but hang on, hang on.
You can.
But did you yourself actually see it on the news?
No.
No.
Okay, so this is, so a friend of a friend told you this.
Yes, and if you look up any YouTube video of real life Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu fights, they're there for you to look.
You can look it up right now.
It's not the most effective, but I mean...
Wait, Andrew, I got something for this.
No, no, no, hang on, hang on.
I just want to be clear that when you said that you had a friend who broke men's legs with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu who attacked her, that that's actually not true.
That what's actually true is that you have a friend who told you she had a friend that happened to, and it was on the news, but you yourself never actually saw it.
Like that I didn't see the news?
Yes.
No, I didn't see the news as I said.
So how do you know that any of this is true?
Because I'm believing in my friend who that person was a very close friend to her and I'm trusting in what she says because I also know the sport and I know how capable people are.
It's like solo scriptura for the news now, huh?
So, okay, well, I'm going to look.
I'm going to look to be charitable to see if there's any woman ever who has been attacked, who knows Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, who then went and broke the male adversary's legs with it.
But I got one motor sportsman.
As a competitive shooter and instructor, ladies, get a weapon, get trained, be safe.
I do actually have a wall of guns, and my wife sleeps like a baby under the protection I provide.
Well, Pokerid 1, wait, really quick question for you.
So, and I don't know if Andrew already asked this.
In general, who's physically stronger, men or women?
Men, for sure.
Yeah, men.
Anyone probably men disagree on this one?
Unfortunately.
I don't know if that's where that conversation was going.
Well, Brian, Brian, would you say that a news story where a woman who was 4'11 who knew Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu who was attacked by men and broke their legs would be something that would be pretty easy to find?
I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $100.
My wife is 110 pounds, 5 feet 1 inch.
I'm 5'11 plus 230 pounds and built.
I could easily beat the absolute breaks out of her without breaking a sweat.
She carries a pistol, though, and would shoot me in the chest.
Not only that, but one of the weaknesses of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is against multiple attackers because it's a ground sport.
So I don't even understand the logic of this.
It seems absurd to me.
But I'll look.
So far, just even in a cursory Google search, I can't find anything about any women anywhere who have ever been assaulted by multiple men who knew Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu who broke their legs.
Wait, just letting you know.
Really quickly, the story is a 4'11 woman fended off two attackers?
Yeah, she was a purple belt.
She was walking in a park and they came in, they attacked her.
And so she, being a purple belt, was able to break their bones.
So you have, my understanding with jiu-jitsu, it goes blue, purple, brown, black.
I think that's the progression in jiu-jitsu.
I think, oh, well, our good friend Gustavo here, he does jiu-jitsu.
How long does it, Gustavo, how many years does it typically take to get a purple belt?
Seven.
What belt are you?
No, how do you say that shit in Spanish?
Okay, no.
Oh, exposed.
Cool, cool.
Okay, seven years.
Okay, so Spencer, as somebody who practices, or excuse me, Gustavo, as somebody who practices jujitsu, your blue belt, correct?
How long have you been doing it?
How many years?
Five years.
Does this story sound plausible to you that a 4'11 purple belt in jiu-jitsu fended off two male attackers and broke both their legs?
Is that the story?
I don't know if it's both their legs, but she subdued them and broke some bones.
That's what I heard from my bones.
Multiple bones.
Multiple, I think.
Because it occurs to me: look, I'm not a jiu-jitsu expert, but for example, to break an arm, for example, maybe she had them in an armbar.
But you can only armbar one person at a time, and that would leave her on her back on the ground, exposed to the fists of the second attacker, just pummeling the shit out of her face while she's trying to armbar this dude.
So it's the most ridiculous people ever heard.
It is literally ridiculous.
And in no way, shape, or form does it map on to reality at all.
Not even a little bit.
Let's not absurd.
Yeah, yeah.
We won't linger too long on the jiu-jitsu thing.
I missed probably most of the firearm discussion.
It was good.
I had one question.
Maybe, Andrew, already went there, but let's say your house was getting invaded.
You lived with a boyfriend.
Would you prefer, and it's being invaded by three men.
Would you prefer him to defend you with his fists or with a firearm in that scenario?
Like, I think the problem was that the way you said it before, before you walked off, was like a wall of guns.
And I was like, that sounds a little bit excessive.
I didn't say a gun or a firearm.
That I would, yeah, I have no problem with a gun.
Okay.
But it was like an excessive amount of guns.
That's when I said that sounds a little bit like a red flag for me.
It's like a little scary and a little weird.
Could I just say something?
Because I voted no as well.
Because honestly, having a full wall full of firearms, that's kind of red flag.
You just overcompensating for something.
If you have a game, I guess they, like, in a way, like you're saying, you collect guns for a specific reason.
Like, I wouldn't know why he has all these guns because I'm not gay.
You know, like, it's also a type of person.
Like, if you're an aggressive person, I'd be like, why do you need these?
We're going to read a couple chats here.
John Liggan, Bring Back Gorlock.
Okay, thank you.
I tried.
Honestly, I tried.
You guys should spam spam Allie with DMs saying, yo, go back on the whatever podcast.
I've tried.
I don't think she's about it.
She'd rather.
Our wait, actually, never mind.
Could somebody read this one for me?
You got a good one of you got good diction.
You want me to?
Sure.
Okay.
I couldn't imagine being an OnlyFans influencers, father, brother, or partner.
Simps need to wake up and spend their money on something meaningful like a hobby.
The collective, delusional, feminist ego is crushing culture.
What are you going to do once good men are around?
Where are the good men?
So a good man can't date an only fans?
Not dating women who do pornography.
Well, that's true, actually.
But some of them.
The people in the porn industry that are married and have relationships, you don't think they're good men and good women.
And that they've found each other.
But I would argue most men good men probably most good men.
Explain.
Jesus Christ, there's like five conversations going on.
Okay.
Okay.
Most good men, their probably number one pick is not to go and date a woman who is currently or in the past did pornographic content.
I get it.
No, I get that.
But I'm saying that you don't think that two people in the adult industry are good people and can find love?
Sure.
Okay.
Sure.
So I mean, do you at least acknowledge that simply by virtue of you doing or having done pornographic content, there's videos of you guys out there fucking other men.
So they're addicted to it.
Dating podcasts.
A lot of men, like it's.
Yes.
I'm not saying you will never be able to find a man, but a lot of men are going to.
Thank you for saying that.
They're going to have issues.
We'll never have a chance at it.
I'll be dead.
I'll bring shy alone.
I'll find kids.
I get it.
I think you'll still be able to find men, but like in the same way that, for example, for me, me having this, simply by virtue of having the podcast closes the door with certain women who might not want to date somebody who has my views or they might not want to date somebody who's just even out there publicly.
That's true.
So what if you didn't know?
But I acknowledge it.
What if you didn't know a woman had a closet life before you and she never disclosed that to you?
Would that be like because you wouldn't?
Let's say we're married in a scenario.
I'd divorce her immediately like that.
You would?
Instant divorce.
What if you were in love with her and had kids with her?
What if she was transgender?
I'm not talking about transgender.
Hold on.
I said, what if she never disclosed something?
Please, what if you're, I can understand it's a lie and it's like, I get it.
But what if you were dating somebody and they hid a secret from you like that and you had kids, you had assets, you were in love and this was a great person and she treated you great and she was a great mother to you.
Yeah, what would you do?
Let's ask this the other way.
Let's ask this the other way.
Let's say that you're in love with this woman.
You absolutely adore her.
She's great.
She's been a great wife to you.
She's been a great mother, right?
And you find out that she lied about the paternity of your kids.
This is a different question.
Yeah, but hang on, the logic's going to track for you, and I'm going to tie it together for you shortly.
Why is it, do you think that it would be okay for the guy to leave that relationship?
Are you asking me?
Yeah.
Okay, about the paternity of a child or their past.
Yeah, so you love the woman.
Okay.
Right?
She's great.
She just hid this one thing from you, which was the paternity of your kids.
Or kid.
Is that a question for me, Andrew?
I'm so confused.
No, no, no.
That's for her.
You're asking me what I think that someone else should do or me and...
Yeah, I'm asking, is it okay for a man to leave then?
Do you think that that's appropriate?
I think it's okay for anyone to do anything at the point of life.
If it's not okay for him, it's okay.
I also have friends that have been in that situation that have stayed.
And I have friends that have stayed.
Yeah, but if you're asking Brian then, why?
Why if you didn't disclose a thing, would you leave?
Then the answer would be entailed in that same one, right?
I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
But a child and someone's past sexually might be a little bit like more than that.
Yes, but it's, hang on, it's what a person values that you're hiding.
That's the problem.
It's the lie.
So if Brian values that, you know, you were telling the truth about your sexual history and it turned out you were lying about it, right?
That's his value.
So you would be, from your worldview, it would be totally appropriate for him to leave, right?
I'm saying, like, it would be appropriate for him to leave if he wanted to leave, if he felt like very, like, disrespected.
But I understand that a child is a little bit different than a woman's sexual promiscuacy and her past.
Yeah, they're different.
I get it.
They're different.
I know every analogy I'll ever bring to you is going to be a different thing.
Okay, you're married right now.
And the reason is always going to be different from the other thing is because no two things are exactly identical.
So I'm giving you a comparison together.
That's it.
But you're married, right?
Not for Andrew.
Yeah, I'm married.
Okay.
So how long have you been married for?
Over a decade.
Okay.
So what if you found out something from like 25 years ago that you didn't agree with?
Would you immediately divorce her?
Or would you be like, I know this person.
Depends on the severity.
If I found out that she was an OnlyFans girl or something like this before I married her, that would be an instant divorce.
So right now, instant divorce?
Yeah, it would be an instant divorce.
25 years before and like before she met you.
I'm just asking.
Yes.
Okay.
The situation could just be okay.
But here's the thing.
Why, from your worldview, would that include you?
I tell guys what it is.
Like, I want you to know from the first date, like, hey, is this okay for you or if it's not?
I feel like it's a lie.
So I get what you're saying.
It's the personality trait of a person to be able to lie to you about something.
It's because you don't want your partner to lie to you.
So whatever it is, whatever hard conversation it is, let's have that conversation from day one and let's figure it out, you know?
Yeah, no, I understand, but I'm just, all I'm doing is pushback to the idea that if you found out that there was this horror, you know, this lie, which you can then question the foundations of everything, regardless of, you know, how you feel about the person now or even how long that person's been great to you, why wouldn't she be justified then in ending it?
It's a lie, right?
What if she lied to protect you because she loves you?
Well, I mean, that's not her choice to make, is it?
No, it's not her choice, but.
Isn't that nice of her to do a convenient lie to protect me from her past?
That's awful convenient, isn't it?
How nice of her to lie about her past to protect me?
That doesn't sound a little absurd to you.
So, you prefer your woman to never have like a sexuality.
No, no, no.
Answer my question before you answer or ask another one.
Doesn't it sound a little bit convenient to say that she's hiding her past to protect me from it?
Maybe because she loves you.
It's convenient.
But hiding her sexual history to protect me is because she loves me.
Maybe she's not a person who's not a person.
Why would that protect me and not be protecting her?
Maybe she thought you were not an open-minded person and she wanted to also like some I could understand myself, like my old self, like wow, this is a great guy and I want to like appease him.
Maybe that.
And she was like, I'm going to lie about this situation.
Well, that would be her protecting herself, not how would it be protecting you?
Okay.
I get that.
How would it be protecting the not protecting you?
Maybe she's protecting herself because you're a great guy and she wanted to be with you.
Okay, maybe I understand that.
Yes.
I said it wrong or like I understood it wrong.
Moving on, moving on.
Move on.
Moving on.
Moving on.
It does occur to me, though, that in this scenario that you kind of gave, is there something to be said for men prefer uncomfortable truths and women prefer comforting lies?
Ugly truth.
Or is that kind of the same thing?
No, not totally, but I don't prefer, like, I don't want to be lied to, and I don't want to lie to somebody.
I've been that route when I was younger and more immature, and maybe I've lied to a man about who I've been with or situations.
And right now, in my life, because I'm older, and I realize it's not fun.
Okay, well, I don't have kids, but that was Nick, not me.
All right, a couple chats here.
Sorry.
I gotta be honest.
A couple chats.
Can you read this one?
Can you read this one?
Brittany.
What?
Oh, wait.
I'm Christian too.
Sometimes the best ministry is being honest and humble.
You come off as using faith to avoid confronting your confidence issues.
Pride and regrets.
You need some blunt friends.
Oh, we got another one coming up.
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Let me pull out the, oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Screwdriver.
Somebody read.
Can you read this?
Sure, why not?
Brixon, great work as always.
Andrew, do you think women who've been loose 15 plus bodies can truly repent and be saved?
Alexis, are you the girl who went on that Miami podcast, made out with your friend, and talked about EDA guy's dingle periods?
Okay, your answer to that question first, and then Andrew will respond.
Go ahead.
So you want me to answer this question?
Sure.
Do I think that a woman who's been loose 15?
No, The question directed at Alexis.
I'm Alexis.
Oh, I don't know.
There's 10 of you and one of me.
How about that?
Which one's that?
He's asking, Alexis, are you the girl?
Yes, that was me.
Made out with my friend, most definitely.
And talked about eating guys' dingleberries.
Yes, I eat a guy's ass.
I do whatever my man wants.
I'm submissive.
If he wants me to do this, I will do that.
Anything sexually, I will do.
To please him.
That's fucking disgusting.
Who said that?
That's just like a sign.
That's Nick.
So that's 100%.
I have definitely talked about that I will do.
I will eat a guy's ass if that's what my man wants.
There's no lie about it.
I want to go home.
So you've eaten shit?
I mean, yeah, I've ate my man's ass out for sure.
That's fucking disgusting.
Okay.
I mean, I'm sure there's a man in this room that has had it done, but they just won't admit to it.
I think that it's actually like very like being sexually aware and in tune with what feels good in your body.
And I think that with the right person, that you should do that.
And there's nothing wrong with it.
I think that we're humans that we should experience everything that.
Look, let's not linger too long on the fucking salad sauce.
I'm not sure to do that.
I don't know.
He made it seem like if I was ashamed of that, I'm very much open to talking about it.
I just want to do the same thing.
If you were ashamed, I just wanted to get clarification.
But anyway, to answer the question, I literally think that serial killers can be redeemed in the eyes of Christ.
I think that basically every human being has the capacity for redemption.
Right.
Basically, all of them.
Even to kind of absurd extents, I think, I think people are redeemable.
All right.
There you go.
Thank you, screwdriver, for the question.
Okay.
I need to try to get through.
I had a ton of questions that we kind of, there were a ton of conversational threads I wanted to touch on.
We were talking about sugar daddies really quick.
I think we left off with you.
Did we?
I think so.
So you had one sugar daddy.
What was the, I think the question was, what was the arrangement there?
So you would talk to him and he'd just send you money?
Yeah, we would FaceTime and like basically like sexed, but like never met.
No, he wanted to meet in person.
What would be like, how much would he pay you just to talk?
I mean, he would just send me money, like $500 here, $500 there.
Like, he'd pay me $500 for a nude photo.
Back in the day when OnlyFans was like not so well known, I was making so much money off of just like pictures of myself from my chest down, not even showing my face.
From this one sugar daddy, what's the biggest singular payment he ever sent you?
$2,000.
What's in total?
Yeah.
No, I mean, like, what's the total?
Oh, I don't know.
More than six figures?
No, it was definitely not more than six figures.
It wasn't even more than $10,000?
I think it was probably under.
Under $10,000.
Okay.
Yeah.
No sugar daddies, if I recall, no sugar daddies.
You said you currently have three sugar daddies.
Or did you have a sugar daddy?
No, I said I felt like more like a sugar mama.
I see, okay.
Wait, you were a sugar mama.
Was it with a guy you were dating, though?
Like somebody.
Oh, it was the guy you were filming with.
The workout guy?
Dating.
It was another person.
I scooted your mic a little closer to my mouth.
Yeah, I was just somebody that was dating.
Just scoot the mic a little bit.
An arrangement, I guess.
Okay.
How much were you paying him?
Asking for Nick.
He's looking for a sugar mama.
Nick, are you down for a sugar mama?
Oh, no.
I mean, are you down?
He's a virgin, though.
He's a virgin.
So, like, you can't try to get at him like that.
He'll send you fee pics and shit.
Oh, it was a good amount for him.
It was a good idea.
I'm actually trying to do an intro here for Nick.
But what if he doesn't qualify?
He's not dashful.
Wait, what?
Doesn't qualify.
He's a Giga Chad.
Nick's a fucking Giga Chad.
Yeah, but that's not really considered.
Is he not your type?
I haven't even looked at him too well.
He's tall.
Wait, oh, shit.
Gamer.
He's a good tech, you know.
All right.
Sorry, Nick.
I tried my best.
I tried my best.
Make you reels.
Okay, you have three sugar daddies.
Into the mic?
Yeah, I currently do have three sugar daddies.
Try to scoot into the table.
It'll help you out.
I'm sorry.
So you currently have three.
Is that the most you've ever had?
Have you had more before?
One time, yeah.
But have you had others in the past that are no longer currently your sugar daddy?
Yeah, okay.
And so, what is the arrangement there?
You just talk to them.
Have you met any of them in person?
One of them I did meet.
No, two of them I met in person, but one was a pre-organized arrangement, the other one just kind of fell into it.
Okay, but I don't do anything promiscuous or sexual with these sugar daddies.
It's all mostly conversation, probably the most intensive.
Have you kissed any of them?
Once, yeah.
Once?
Yeah.
Okay.
How did you meet them?
Seeking.com?
No, I don't use any dating apps.
I'm not a dating app.
They just reach out to me.
In your Instagram bio, it says, Nick, can you actually pull it up?
It says, God above all.
yeah i'm a christian i mean i know you said you're not really doing anything sexual with these guys but no i'm not doing anything sexual It seems like sugar daddy is a little veering into sex work.
Like, do you, how do you reconcile sort of being adjacent, sex work adjacent?
Maybe is it sex work?
It might be, I don't know.
But you said you've got God above all in your Instagram bio.
How do you reconcile that?
There's really nothing to reconcile because I have God above all because God is everything to me.
And because I'm a Christian, I'll stand by that.
The only thing I'll do anything sexual with in an arrangement like that, I'm not doing it for myself.
Do you think like a godly Christian man would look at a woman who is currently has like three sugar daddies and be like, this is somebody who's walking the right path?
I mean, yeah, because my boyfriend is Christian, so he doesn't care.
Your Christian boyfriend's cool with you having three sugar daddies?
I'm not sleeping with them.
What is in the messages that you exchange with them, is there any sexual nature to the conversations you're having?
If they might say, oh my gosh, I saw your post, you look amazing, or oh my gosh, your butt looks cute, that's great.
He knows it.
He's confident in himself.
I'm not going to go out with anybody who's insecure.
He's going to know with himself, okay, this is my woman.
She's coming home with me at the end of the night.
You guys can send her as much money as you want.
You guys can text her whatever.
I'm not going to say anything.
I'm not going to be like, oh, thanks.
Do you want to see this?
Do you want to see that?
They can say whatever they want.
Okay.
What?
I'm sorry.
Go ahead, Brian.
Oh, yeah.
So.
What's that, Nick?
Oh, you can pull up the Insta really quick.
You can scroll it up a bit or maybe left small.
Yeah, left small.
So there it is, God above all.
I don't know if having sugar daddies contravenes your religion, but it's.
Yeah, it does.
So if you don't mind if I dive in, just curious, when you identify as being a Christian, what would that mean to you?
What does that mean to be a Christian?
Being a Christian means that I follow God's statutes and laws and I have a real relationship with him.
I pray to him.
I don't just believe he exists.
I actually am a Christian.
Okay, so what part of the Christian ethic would permit men who are sexually attracted to you and are sending you money for sexual gratification?
Which part of the Christian ethic would reconcile that?
The part where they're not sending me money for sexual gratification.
Then why are they sending it?
They're sending it because they saw a freshly new college grad and they said, oh my gosh, you're a woman with a good head on her shoulders.
I'm just going to talk to you every day and I want to send you money and that's basically it.
And there's no sexual talk whatsoever.
Not from my end, not at all.
No, I didn't ask from your end.
I asked if there's sexual talk whatsoever.
The most sexual talk is that you look great, you look good, while you look great in this.
And it's.
And you don't think, yeah, so you don't think that they're sending you the money and telling you how good you look because they themselves are being sexually gratified by this?
I just want to make sure that that's your actual position on this.
I mean, they're not sending me money because they're being sexually gratified.
Like, they don't send me money and say, you look great in this outfit.
I'm going to send you money right now.
They say, oh my gosh, I just saw the pictures you took.
You look amazing.
We have a conversation at the end of the day, and then they just might send me $500 or $600 or whatever.
They send you $500 or $600 because they just want to see you do well in life.
Yes.
Life online.
Why do you think they picked you specifically?
Could you say that again?
Why do you think they picked you specifically to just want to spend their largest on in order to make sure that you had a good life?
Why do you think they picked you in particular?
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to say my looks don't attribute to it, but some men with money do just want to talk every day to a woman who's well-dressed, well-educated.
They want to go out on the other side.
And they have, and they obviously have sexual motivations for, right?
If they have sexual motivation, that's not my prerogative.
Well, yeah, that's true.
It's not you responding in a sexual way, but if you are, in this sense, you are promoting that they can live inside of the fantasy of this perceived sexual relationship by sending you money.
And that's what I'm saying.
I'd like to know which part of the Christian ethic that's okay.
Do you think that Jesus would say, oh, yeah, have sugar daddies?
It's nice that these guys tell you how great you look and are sexually attracted to you.
That's wonderful.
You think that that's like literally, you really think that that's within the Christian ethic?
Within my relationship with God, God knows that my mindset and my spirit is right with the fact that if they're sending me money based on my looks only and because I'm sending them explicit videos or images, then that's wrong and I would feel that within my spirit.
And I'm not judging anybody who does that.
That's your prerogative.
But for me personally, with my relationship with Christ, I'm just having a conversation with someone.
Last question then.
Last question for this.
Let's assume for a second that you knew that there were men who murdered people with guns.
And you never actually participated in any sort of murder.
You just made their bullets and sent them to them.
Do you think that you're assisting in them participating in murdering?
Making their bullets.
Do I know that they're using it to murder money?
You know that they're using it to murder.
Then you just make their bullets.
Are you helping and participating in that murder?
It's part of the process.
I don't understand.
Is that yes?
Basically, yeah.
Yeah, yes.
So, how are you not doing the exact same thing here in this situation by allowing them to participate in this form of sexual gratification?
I don't understand that.
Because the same pictures that they compliment me on and the same pictures that they travel wild with their fantasies are the same pictures that are on my Instagram.
They're not getting anything that no one else isn't getting for free.
They have a choice.
I'm not forcing them to send money.
They do it by their own volition.
Yeah, but so does the bullet maker.
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Imagine a man posting videos of his alcoholic or heart drug behavior.
Would that make you a lieutenant do better, Digens?
Yeah, so the question just basically is: are you complicit?
Are you complicit just like the bullet maker?
Are you being complicit?
Am I being complicit?
I'm not complicated.
Yes, are you being party to this thing that you know is wrong?
Like, for instance, if somebody else were to come to you, if a woman came to you and said, I'm a Christian woman, and this guy wants to pay me money specifically because he fantasizes about having a sexual relationship, would you advise that she do that?
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I have no sympathy for a man who wifes a hoe.
Wifing any woman is a mistake, all the more so a hoe.
Also, Brian, use this $100 to replace the mic that Tasita used.
I see AIDS particles from her mouth.
Oh, God.
Goodbye.
Anyway, I'm just asking.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Yeah, what was the question?
Yeah, I'm just asking.
Excuse me.
If you're complicit, if another Christian woman came over and said, look, I'm trying to walk the path of Jesus Christ, and said, I have some men who want to send me money so that they can fap to pictures of mine.
Would you recommend that she do that?
I would ask her, what are you giving these men that they are sending her money?
And if she just says, I'm just saying good morning, and I have friends who have done that.
I have friends who have men, grown men with jobs, good paying jobs, who literally just get satisfaction from sending a woman money.
And if this one's like, oh, I don't send him any pictures.
I don't do anything sexually explosive.
He just sends me money.
We just have conversation.
That's fine.
What is wrong with that?
Why would Jesus hate that?
Well, in this particular case, by your own admission, you said that these men you think are talking to you because they in some form are engaged in fantasy.
And I'm thinking that they're in a fashion.
Well, no, you literally did.
I asked, why are they sending you money?
And you said a big component of that is how you look.
Of how I look.
So don't you think it's a little ridiculous to say that they're sending you money specifically and not ugly women?
Why would you think that that would be my passion?
Because you just have such a charming personality or could there be maybe other factors there.
If they are fapping or doing anything with their own two hands, that's fine with them.
I don't think I'm 80 in that sense because my pictures aren't on Instagram.
It's not for something to be paid for.
It's literally.
Here, I'm going to move on a little bit here.
So just so we have a bit of a sense of the scope of your arrangement, you currently have three right now.
So what are they doing?
They're paying you $500 a couple times a month.
What are they doing?
A couple times a month here and there.
If they're just like, how's your day going?
I say good morning.
Oh, I'm about to get my hair done.
Okay, I'll send you 300.
Oh, I want to get my nails done.
Okay, I'll send you 100.
Oh, here's a question for you.
Now, you've got three of them currently.
Will you send each of them the same text saying, oh, I'm going to go get my nails done?
And are you sort of anticipating that each one of them is going to send you the $300 for your nails?
Has that ever happened?
Wait, tell each of them I'm getting my nails done?
Well, for example, let's say you have $1,000 rent payment a month and you have three sugar daddies.
If one of those sugar daddies sends you $1,000 for your rent payment, would you then go to the other two and also say, well, I have a $1,000 rent payment?
So in practice, you're getting $3,000.
No, I wouldn't do that.
I would not do that.
Stop the cap.
Okay.
So what's the biggest one-time transaction that you've received from them?
From one, probably $700.
$700?
Yeah.
So I'm curious for, and we'll go one by one.
What's the total you've received?
From all three in one month?
No, no, no, like total over the course of your arrangement?
In like in a year, probably, or like a month.
However long you've been involved with them.
That's a long number.
Just so one by one.
So number one gave me 10,000, number two gave me 50,000, something like that.
One probably gave me close to maybe in the scope of like a year.
Wow.
Well, does it just money?
Because it gave me jewelry sometimes.
Sure.
Factor in the fair market value of the gifts.
Okay.
I will admit from one, I probably got close to like 15K.
Another one, I got close to nothing crazy, like two bands.
And then another one, probably around like...
Good for you.
I love that.
I don't know, like...
3,000?
30...
30,000.
Not 30,000.
Oh, 3,000.
3,000.
3,000 to 5,000.
Okay.
Love that.
Life on easy mode.
Okay.
So you said you had quite a few sugar daddies, correct?
Is it possible?
I don't know.
Are you able to scoot into the table or are you locked out?
Yeah, I can scoot in.
All the way, so you can get into the mic.
Okay.
Sorry.
I'm here.
Okay, so you did escorting.
You've had sugar daddies.
You said from the escorting, you had hundreds of clients?
Over the years, yes.
Over the years.
What, just out of curiosity, what would you typically make from that?
Like with each person?
Yeah, for one-time engagement, I guess.
I would say on average, $1,000 to $1,500 on average.
Some were always higher, like $5K, some were like $1,000.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about the sugar daddies?
So what's the, and it sounded like you had quite a few.
How many sugar daddies do you think you've had?
Dozens, hundreds?
Man, I really would say, like, well, I guess sugar daddy in a sense of like just a one-time thing?
Are you including the one-timers too?
Like that I went home with after the club because I've had a lot of those.
Wait.
You mean after the strip club?
Yes.
You went home with them?
Wouldn't that be escorting though, not sugar daddy?
Oh, okay.
Well, I suppose you could have sex with carnal knowledge with the sugar daddies too.
Although it seems to me like a lot of the girls who have sugar daddies actually never end up having sex with them.
So you would you sleep with your sugar daddies?
So yeah, like the first few years I would sleep with every single one.
And then it's almost like I started to get convicted slowly because I called myself a Christian even a few years ago, but I was still dancing.
Right.
So it's been a process.
It didn't happen like overnight.
But I wanted to say that also for her as well.
Like, you know, God convicts us all at different times.
Sometimes his hand weighs heavily upon you in a night.
Sometimes it's slowly because he's a gentle, loving father.
That's how God is, you know?
So I would say to bring it back to the question, you know, there's a lot of grace, you know, that he showed me.
And there was times where I would even evangelize in the club.
Like when I started reading scripture and praying, I know it sounds crazy, but God works in mysterious ways, you know, and I've prayed for people in the club.
Sometimes I wouldn't even like dance for them.
I just sit and talk with him because these men are hurting, you know, and I was hurting too.
That's why I was there.
So Satan feeds us lies to where two people that are hurting can feed off of each other in a very toxic way.
And so I would just explain the whole, my whole ex-lifestyle like that, you know, whether I was doing videos in the club one-on-one.
But yeah, so the question, what was the question again?
Sorry.
I got you.
So the question is, I'm curious about this kind of the scope of the sugar daddies, what So let me try to be more precise.
What's the biggest one-time transaction that you've ever had?
Hmm.
Like in once, like a whole night.
A guy just sends you $10,000.
Without seeing him in person, just online?
Let's do both.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Would you consider online people?
This is juicy.
That's an interesting question because you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, there's somebody else.
Like, is a sugar daddy someone in person or virtually?
They can be both.
It could be virtually.
So you had some then.
Well, you're OnlyFans.
I mean, OnlyFans is sort of.
No, but when you have a Sugar Daddy, I feel like a Sugar Daddy is a physical skill.
You're getting some family relationships because in that case, I feel like it would be different for a lot of answers would be a lot different.
Sure.
I'll say, I don't remember if it was $7,000 or $8,000, one of those.
That's a one-time transaction.
And then what's the most in total any individual ever sent you?
Ooh, close to $100K over the span of a few years.
Close to $100K.
What about the number two, number three spot?
$50K, $20K.
Something around there.
Do you think from all just the sugar daddies, do you think you've made over a million total?
Ooh.
Close.
My dad disdained $100.
These hoes cheering on other girls for being hoes is the epitome of Misery Likes Company.
Love that for you, you go girl.
They ain't your friends.
Hey, what's the next question?
Because I have a question about the sugar daddy, sugar baby thing.
Wait, did you answer the, like, your...
I would say close.
What about from escorting?
Oh, I was actually factoring that in.
Oh okay, I see, I see okay uh, and then you were you dating at this time, same time too, while you were escorting?
Yes, would you disclose to partners that you were escorting?
No, I was lying.
Damn yeah, damn.
Can you ever adjust your mic me?
Oh, can you scoot your mic that way?
I think no, just the base.
Scoot it that way.
Did you save that money, a lot of it, that didn't really scoot it.
Scoot it because that's gonna go to my next question.
But tilt, turn it, turn the mic towards you.
Any other questions?
Yeah, did you save a lot of that money or below a lot of that money?
So, because I, I didn't have any basis, because I, you know, I was very unstable, without go in my life and without following god, so I didn't Have the fruits of the spirit to steward that money.
So it all went to traveling.
I often supported my family as well.
So I understand when you're saying, you know, you had to do what you had to do.
Because at the time, I thought that, like, I believed that.
I was like, you know, I got to support my mom.
My mom was on heroin most of my life as well.
So I was paying for my sister's schooling.
You know, my mindset was like, I got to make sure I'm good.
My family's good.
You know, and so on.
And I grew up very poor.
So I just felt like I was pressured into it.
Now the scales have been removed, and I genuinely see that I just believed the lies of the enemy.
But God also revealed to me, hey, that was never your responsibility to take care of them.
I didn't give that responsibility to you.
And you said you also did, you were involved in the adult entertainment industry.
Yes.
How many, and I'll open this up to some of the other girls, how many scenes did you do?
Okay, so I actually didn't do that many because I got married shortly after that.
Okay.
And I met him in the club, actually.
I actually met a lot of my boyfriends in the clubs because I was mostly in the clubs, right?
Yeah.
Oh, in the strip club.
Okay, I thought you meant.
The club.
In the club.
50 Cent.
Okay.
How many scenes have you done?
With like 100.
100?
Yeah.
What about you?
Like with different people or all together?
Let's say with different people.
Maybe like 10, 15.
What about you?
Maybe 25.
Okay, got it.
And then moving it over to you, you said that you did OF in your past, correct?
Yeah, but it wasn't OF, it was like Patreon, but something.
And so what kind of content were you making?
So basically I called it at the time.
Like I was in such a delusion that I was calling it like artistic nudes and I would never actually show like full-blown nudes.
It'd always be censored.
But I would always call it like art and the people around me would say it's art, but it's like really just online prostitution.
I think it's art.
How's that prostitution if it's not a matter of that?
I think that non-photography sex is a lot of fun.
Prostitutions have boudoir.
Yeah, that's what I did was like stuff.
But I don't think that's art.
I think I was like making money off of like sexual, like it's sexual.
Like guys, no matter what depends on how you look at it.
No matter how much like we say that it's not.
My body's art.
The men, they are seeing it sexually and they are definitely doing things.
Not all men look at it like sexually though.
I think.
What about gay men?
You think gay men are looking at women and thinking it's sexual?
I don't think the gay men are subscribing to the OnlyFans.
No, but like everyone looks at it like it's art.
Boudoir is art.
But I don't think that's.
Was that the extent of what you were doing?
Like there, you never posted.
It was just Patreon.
Were you doing any sugar daddy stuff?
Okay.
Did you ever one-on-one send any of these like customs, I think they're called?
Would you do customs?
Like, can you define customs?
Like it's a, you're directly messaging with somebody, they put in a specific request.
Maybe what you're putting out there on your Patreon is.
Did you send out nude photo sets that they requested from you?
No.
So all the photos that you posted were censored.
You were nude, but it was like censored.
Okay.
That seems like art.
I don't think it's art because it's sexual.
Are you doing like the ahi galaxy?
You think it's wrong?
No.
I think we can.
Why are you laughing?
Over here, Cheyenne.
She was the ahi gal.
I don't know.
Am I even saying you said it?
How do I say it?
Ahego?
Cheyenne's the hego queen.
Ahego queen, okay.
Cosplay.
There you go.
So it's like, what, like, you're dressing up as video game characters type shit?
Cosplaying?
Not so much.
It wasn't really cosplay, like, no.
Okay.
No, she's talking full nude like photography.
Like, I think that's really artistic, though.
Like, were you just like posing and like showing like you're yeah, I was showing my body, and I do think that's like it's the same thing.
Because if your intention is to make a guy come, I think it's like whether you're getting gang banged or you're sending him a picture of just your ponytail, if you know that this man is getting sexual pleasure from it, I feel like it's equally the same.
I mean, I don't really agree.
It's different in the way that what she's doing is money worth more than your soul.
Two, have you actually thought about 10 years into your future?
Three, if the men you choose are toxic, aren't you the problem?
Just hey, just I thank you for your TTS.
Just as a general rule, though, we can only do like one question per TTS.
So, if you want to submit other ones, you can, but just for the sake of time, we only allow one question per TTS.
Is money worth more than your soul?
Have you actually thought about pick the best one?
Let's just not the first one, maybe the third one.
If the men you choose are toxic, aren't you?
No, let's do fuck it.
We'll do the first one.
Is money worth more than your soul?
Yeah, I'm just kidding.
At least she's honest.
I don't believe like a soul is a thing that you can sell or buy.
Like, money is in this reality worth a lot and it makes you happy.
So, I think money is.
Do you believe that a soul exists?
I believe that energy exists.
I don't know if it's a like it's a lot.
I'm not going to get into a deep theological.
I believe in a lot of things, but I don't think it has anything to do with each other.
No, absolutely not.
No, and Luca says, What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but forfeits his soul?
And that's the number one verse that convicted me.
I've also had dreams of hell, and I've had dreams of heaven.
So, for me, I believe my mom's also went to hell and she came back.
So, like, I've just had so many supernatural experiences to where I can only believe in the second coming.
And the forfeiting of the forfeiting of soul that she's talking about is eternal burning.
Like, I don't think people understand like burning, like, dying by burning.
Just answer the question.
Just answer the question, please.
The most is money worth more than no, absolutely not.
Yes, I agree with you that they kind of like I don't think they correlate really at all.
I do think that like money kind of does buy happiness, right?
I agree.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
If I have money, I'm happy I'm happy.
Yeah, you know, if nobody told you what a soul was, you wouldn't really know what a soul was.
100%.
Wait, okay.
So, we were, I want to touch on the roster thing really quick.
Did we go around on the roster?
Do you have a roster?
Have you had a roster?
I don't really.
What do you mean?
Like, who I'm liking currently?
Entertaining multiple men at the same time.
Yeah, you already asked me that.
Oh, did I?
Did we know where we left off?
No, I don't ask me.
I don't like work-related STD tested.
Like, it's not like a roster outside of that.
I don't have a roster, which I have a thing.
Scoot your mic to the edge of the table.
Go ahead.
Are you talking about currently or in the past?
Both.
In the past, yes.
But like she said before, like about conviction, I've been convicted about that.
And I've been more into being with one person now, but there's no conviction about sugar.
No, I don't right now.
No.
Sorry, what is the roster?
Dating multiple people at the same time.
No.
No, I do not.
I feel like there's like people you like talk to from Hinge and Tinder and dating apps and stuff.
But right now, currently, no, I don't have a roster, but I have before.
No, I don't.
Okay.
All right.
I guess that covers the roster thing.
We did sugar babies.
All right, I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes here pretty soon.
Question for you two.
Are you guys born-again virgins?
What do you mean by that?
Oh no, do you just claim the title born-again virgin?
Like, no.
Like, if you mean like physical virgin, I don't know.
I think that once you lost it.
Would you have sex with that marriage?
Maybe.
Yeah, we're celebrating.
We're not having sex because that's married.
What about you?
Are you a born-again virgin?
I am.
Yeah, I wouldn't say, like, I don't say like I'm a born-again virgin all the time, but like I am.
Yes.
What the hell does that mean?
Okay.
Yeah.
So like she said, not physically, but spiritually.
It's interesting because when I, you know, when I was having sex every day, because like there was a time where I literally classified myself as like a sex addict, you know, I was doing it every single day for years.
And, you know, and I gave into it.
Like, I was like, this is what I want to do.
This is my life.
I choose, you know?
And of course there's moments where, because you're giving into the flesh.
So of course you like it.
You know, your flesh likes it.
We're in the flesh.
We're human, you know?
And so, but now I have peace.
So I'm going to...
When did you convert?
I've dabbled into a whole lot of religions, but I always came back to Christianity, but I started to surrender fully, like really born again last year in May when I decided to be.
And you haven't had any sort of sexual activity since that conversion?
No.
No.
Okay, so then when you say born-again virgin, you just mean that you have abstained from sex since you converted?
Yes.
Okay, but you wouldn't say that this maps onto the material reality and the fact of the matter.
Correct, yes.
Okay, gotcha.
So when you say spiritually, right, you're a virgin, what does this actually mean to a partner, like a potential suitor?
If you tell a potential suitor, I've slept with 50 plus men, but I have found faith in Jesus Christ.
While they can take the consideration spiritually that it's great that you're Christian and have moved down that road, shouldn't they still consider your sexual history?
That's where redemption and forgiveness comes in.
Because honestly, like if I, and I'm sure maybe my future husband does have a promiscuous past just like me, you know, I will have the same grace for him.
You know, I think it comes down to, like, just grace and forgiving, and that's why it's important to be with a believer.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
Hang on, Hangon.
I don't disagree with you that you can find somebody who has a messed up past or has done things in their past or that people can't be redeemed or that people don't make mistakes and deserve to have grace for it.
I agree with all of those things.
Yeah.
But to the question, even if you make this conversion to Christianity, shouldn't a partner still consider the body count?
To understand the trauma, to better understand the traumatic experiences and the way you used to be and where you've came, because it's our testimony.
Because God says that we bring people to Christ and the goodness of God brings people back to earth.
I'm so glad the not dating donated $100.
Hypothetically, you have a son.
He is pure, strong, smart, successful, and morally straight.
He brings home a woman literal mirror image physically, emotionally, and mentally of yourself.
Your reaction?
Yeah, that's a great question.
What is your reaction?
Well, so I have to read that again.
He has pure, strong, smart.
So here, I'll just put it in the easiest way possible.
What he's asking is this, if your son, who's straight-laced as can be, who you've raised up, brought home a woman that had your past, would you be a little bit skeptical?
No.
No.
You wouldn't be.
And do you think that that's responsible?
Well, if she's considering, assuming that she's a Christian, I wouldn't judge her at all because that's judging.
That's what I call judging.
Someone.
Yeah, but you have judgment for a reason.
God also gave you judgment so that you can make judgment calls.
So discernment is what you're speaking of.
Discernment is way different than judgment.
I'm not speaking of discernment.
I'm speaking about judgment, not just discernment.
Discernment is how you navigate the path.
Judgment is how you call the path.
So I'm asking you specifically about judgment.
Wouldn't you make, if anybody says that there's a flag, a red flag for a person's past or something like this, they're making a judgment.
They are making a judgment.
And so the question becomes, don't you think that you would make a judgment with your own child?
Now, it doesn't mean he couldn't see past it, but wouldn't you say, wait a second, before you do this, think about X, Y, and Z. Wouldn't that be a judgment?
I would definitely want to meet her, but I would also have such a deep understanding because I went through the same thing.
And I know my heart with God, and God knows, and he judges the intentions of the heart.
And God says that he's the only person that's to judge.
So I think we disagree with whether a person actually judges and what that means.
I think that's where the.
I have a question.
Yeah.
Would you prefer him bring someone else home?
Say that she's still with her faith.
She's still a Christian.
Would you prefer that he bring someone else home?
Who's a secularist?
Who's a secularist?
Yeah.
So your son comes to you and says, I want to get with this chick who has the same past you do, but is not a Christian.
Well, that's completely different.
That's a different.
Yeah, I know.
I know it's completely different.
That's why I'm asking you the question.
Well, I'll say this.
I've dated atheists before, you know, and I can't dictate who my son chooses.
I can educate him.
I can bring him up in the faith.
Yeah, I think you can.
At 15 or 16 years old, I think you can.
Okay, if he's a minor.
Okay, I'll use my sister.
Right now, my sister's 17 years old, and she's speaking to a boy right now.
And I don't know if he's necessarily Christian.
I don't know his heart.
But I've just, I just, this is how I, you know, am assisted her.
I'm just like, hey, you know, I know you guys are Snapchatting.
This is her first guy, and I've had many boyfriends.
So I just like come with an open heart and I'm understanding.
And I'm just like, hey, if you ever have any questions, if he ever asks you to send nude pictures, or if you ever feel weird or like he's abusive or just anything, just know you can talk to me.
Because sometimes we got to hit the floor before we realize, hey, like, this isn't good for me.
You know, and I've hit the floor many times.
Yeah, but this doesn't answer my question.
It really is kind of doing everything but answering my question.
Would you prefer, would you prefer that your boy brought home a Christian girl?
Yes.
Isn't that a judgment?
No.
How is it not?
You have to be with like-minded.
Like, for example, if there's an atheist and an atheist, I'm sure they'd want to, you know, they probably don't want to be with a Christian because they're totally different.
What does that have to do with anything I just asked you?
Why would you have the preference that your boy brought home a Christian girl if that's not a judgment?
How is that not a judgment?
That's how could it even be construed as anything other than a judgment?
You are judging right then and there that even right now, before it's even happened, you've made the judgment.
Why would you prefer this if you didn't judge this as being particularly better than the alternative?
I would say it's wisdom and not judgment.
Are you a Christian?
I don't have enough wisdom to judge.
No.
No.
How is that not using wisdom?
I like that.
To judge.
I think it is judgment, but like you said earlier, judgment.
No, no, no.
Hang on, hang on.
Let me get back to this.
Yes, I agree.
It's wisdom, but it's wisdom telling you to use what?
It's like God telling us, you know, it's better to wait till marriage.
He does that not to tell us what to do, but he says, I love you so much.
I don't want you to be with someone and have a soul tie with somebody and be emotionally damaged.
That wasn't meant for you.
It's the same.
He's making a judgment.
God's making a judgment.
He's God.
He can judge all he wants.
That's right.
He's God.
He can judge all he wants.
But I'm asking you, if that's the case and he's making a judgment in his wisdom, how is it that you can determine that this is something that is done from your wisdom, but is not a judgment?
For me, I've just dated so many non-Christians.
It doesn't work.
And it's a part of the main points of the faith is to date another believer.
Exactly.
Equally yoked.
Equally yoked.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Equally yoked.
I don't know what that is.
Make a judgment, though.
That's my point.
It's a preference.
Awkward silence.
Awkward silence.
She just said it's a preference and not a judgment.
I actually, that makes more sense.
I just don't.
Oh, it's a preference.
Well, why do you prefer that?
I think it's easier.
God doesn't want you to constantly fight with someone on beliefs.
If they don't want to believe, we can't.
That sounds like a judgment.
It's not a judgment.
Mike Davis connected $100.
Money absolutely buys happiness.
Between money and a female, I'm choosing the bread every day.
Whenever a female exited my life, so did a problem.
Unless to procreate the MD legacy, keep me away.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Thank you, Mike Davis.
Can I ask you a question?
That would be a judgment as well.
Those would all be judgments.
Why don't these podcasts ever have men that are in the adult industry on to kind of get their mindset about why they're in the industry?
I'm trying to tell one person, but like also in the panel of like what we do sometimes, like the other perception, like do you guys think that those men are not high-value men?
Like, do you have a perception of that?
Like, they're not a good person?
Or is it a...
Yeah, I think that adult film stars who are males are total fucking scumbags.
I don't have like a total answer on that.
Does that answer your question?
That answers my question.
Like, do you think I'm being biased?
Do you think I'm being biased with my application?
A little bit.
I don't think he's being biased.
Many people are porn stars less good or something?
Because there's a lot of men that are porn stars, and there's a lot of men that are in an adult industry you might not know.
And would it change your, if you didn't know that they did that behind closed doors, does it change your perception of that person as a person?
Like, what if you were best friends with somebody?
Oh, you know, what if you never knew?
Did you know if I didn't have the requisite knowledge?
What if you never knew and they were your best friend?
Yeah, well, sure.
I mean, would it change your knowledge then if you had a great neighbor who always brought you eggs and bacon every morning, but you found out they were a serial killer?
So Porzby is a serial killer.
Like, this is what I'm saying.
Yeah, would that change your dynamic?
You thought he was great until you found out he wasn't great?
I'd still be his friend.
I found out people, like, I'd be Dexter's friend.
Come on now.
He's hot as hell.
Think about how ridiculous what you're asking me is.
If you didn't have the prerequisite knowledge that somebody was doing something bad, would you make an error in judgment?
Yes.
Just like if you were friends with a serial killer and didn't know he was a serial killer, you have no prerequisite knowledge for your judgment here, right?
If I found out that my next-door neighbor was a CO killer, if he was like nice to me and hot and didn't want to kill me, I'd still be his friend.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
I honestly think it's just because you guys are a lot more interesting, entertaining, more opinionated, to be honest.
From my friends.
But I'm saying, like, does that make me a bad person?
Like, would you not want me around your child?
Like, or you think I'm just okay.
No, she's the best baby.
That doesn't make sense.
This is not even to be mean.
You're just asking me.
I know it's not to be mean.
I'm just saying.
I'm just trying to.
I want to explain why I would come at it this way.
Okay.
I think just this is my opinion.
That a person who's willing to devalue themselves and debase themselves in that way is experiencing what I would call preless.
And this is an Orthodox Christian tradition.
And this means that you're involved in sin to the point where you can't escape it.
This, to me, from my purview, actually makes you a dangerous human being to have around for prolonged periods of time around people I would care about.
I would definitely keep you at arm's length.
That doesn't mean I would be mean to you or cruel to you or say that society should do cruel things to you.
It just means that from my perspective, yes, I think arm's length would be the best place.
What if we repent for our sins and we are able to like you know come back from it?
Repentance is great, and that is exactly where I'd like to see everybody go.
But that's what I'm saying.
So if we do that, some holy hang on, stop.
That doesn't mean that just because somebody dumps what they call holy water on your head and then you're redeemed.
Hang on, let me finish.
And then says you're redeemed, that that means I'm going to agree with that at all.
And I still might keep you at arm's length for a while because Christianity requires theosis.
It's an ongoing process.
It's not something that's just, well, I took the dunk and now I'm ready to go.
It's an ongoing process.
So I don't take everybody at their word.
I agree.
That just because they got dunked, that that means that they're living with the Lord.
You know, it seems a little absurd.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
I don't think it makes you bad people either.
There's just obviously when you have children, certain actions and behaviors that you want to keep them safe from.
I truly say that, like, I'm not a mom.
I'm almost 40 years old.
So I've been down this path where I tell my friends, like, don't start OnlyFans unless you're okay with the decisions you make.
Like, I'm okay with maybe being single at this point in my life.
I'm okay with maybe not having kids.
Maybe that's what I wanted when I was 30.
But I have to worry about myself at some point in my life, and I'm okay with the decisions I make.
And I'm having a little bit of fun with it.
You're super rational too.
At least so far, you seem to be rational and you're willing to have a good, rational discussion.
Can I ask you a question?
I've been kind of wondering.
You said you don't plan on having kids.
Yeah.
Well, it's not that I don't plan on having kids.
If I had kids, I would probably, I would want to be a stay-at-home mother.
I wouldn't want to be on OnlyFans.
I say that.
I understand that.
And I don't even think that that's hypocritical at all.
But my question is: knowing that this will probably take many of those advantages away from having children with mate selection, this kind of thing, you do realize that you could end up becoming a genetic dead end.
Well, isn't that terrifying to think of that you could literally end up becoming a genetic dead end?
Well, I mean, you shake your head, but you're a lot younger.
You got to remember that.
I'm not younger.
There's a there.
No, no, no.
The gal next to you, she was shaking her head.
And I'm like, you're younger.
Younger women always think that there's time.
There's not as much as you want.
What if I don't want to have kids, though?
What's that?
What if I just don't want to have kids?
What's really funny is myself.
What happens often with young women?
And yes, there's studies for this if you want to see them.
But what often happens with younger women is they think they have a prolonged absent of time.
They don't even think about it.
What's interesting, though, is that once they come to the end of their biological clock, you start to see their panic set in.
Must have kids, must have kids.
Your body will actually tell you to do this.
It'll give you overwhelming urges to do this.
What about just adopting cash?
Right now, right now, it's easy to be like, well, I don't even want kids.
But what always happens on TikTok is there's a woman crying in her face, going, I can't believe I waited this long and now I can't have kids.
Well, that sucks for that girl.
I'm not like her.
I hope that's true to myself.
That's what they said.
That's what they all say, right?
Man, I'm 33.
I'm not as young as you think.
I don't know what you thought I was saying.
How old?
I'm 33.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I don't give a shit.
The overwhelming urge may still come over you.
I doubt it.
But sometimes I feel like in society, there needs to be a conversation where, like, why are women like choosing to, like, I don't feel sometimes I always tell men, like, I don't feel emotionally safe.
And I've dated so many men in my life that I kind of just want to worry about myself.
And, like, we've worked so hard.
Like, I was a nurse struggling for years.
Then I was an influencer, Instagram.
And this is kind of like that last-ditch effort to like make more money to feel comfort and safe in my life and to support myself.
So it's not something that like sometimes you guys think that we're bad people or that we're doing this because we want to and we're like these like slutty whores.
It's also to like provide for ourselves because we're not in this relationship or I did the society normal.
Feminism sold you a lie.
Well, I understand what you're saying.
But I feel like at this point in my life, like I got to figure it out for myself.
You're looking for peace.
That's what you're looking for.
I'm looking for peace.
That's what it sounds like.
You're looking for peace.
And I've actually found peace and I've seen it.
Peace itself.
I found peace through money.
And that's what it is.
Because if nursing paid me, it sucks, but it's society's norm.
Like if nursing, I was trying to say this before.
If nursing paid me 30, 40, 50K a month, I would run back to nursing tomorrow.
That's my calling in life.
$1,000 a month?
How many nurses make that much?
None.
None.
No, that's insanity.
But I'm saying that.
Doctors don't work that a month.
Attendings, like, but I'm saying on OnlyFans, we can make 10, 20, 30K.
I'm just saying, like, the range.
nursing I was making like less than four thousand dollars a month and it was very stressful so I feel like Yes.
But wait, no, you weren't making less than $4,000 a month.
You said you're working 60 hours a week.
After taxes.
I'll be honest.
No.
No, no, don't tell me.
It's not even possible.
Do you want me to pay you $1,000 right now?
Literally $60,000.
I will bet you.
I will bet you.
I'm going to pull you a paystub of you working 60 hours a week every week and you pulled in less than $4,000.
13 days a month.
$100,000 right now.
Okay, let's talk later.
It's $13.
I'll be honest, I worked for 13 years as a neonatal ICU nurse.
It's 13 shifts a month.
Some weeks were after taxes and the union dues and everything, $800.
My biggest paycheck was $1,100.
I did this for years.
I was struggling living paycheck to paycheck as a nurse.
Well, then that's not 60 hours a week.
It's what a nurse's shift is.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, no, You said you were working.
12 hours.
60 hours a week.
12 hour shifts, but I'm saying I love it.
Yeah, but 12 hour shifts, you can work one day a week.
How many days a week were you working?
I was working three.
Okay, so as a nurse, I'm just being 36 hours a week.
When I try to educate you, as a nurse, my day is like I would wake up at five in the morning.
I'd get to work at seven.
I work seven to seven.
I work nights for four years.
Yeah, so I worked.
I work twelves.
Twelves.
One day a week I'd work four days a week as a nurse.
So you work 13 shifts a month.
So depending on like how you do your shifts, but depending on if you work nights or days, I didn't say I worked 60 hours a week.
There were 16 hour days because basically like you wake up at five in the morning.
I'm not getting home until like, God forbid, I wanted to go to the food store after work or I wanted to go to the gym and try to, people always say like, you could have a family and do all this stuff.
And I would see nurses.
Oh my God, who the hell can I do?
Well, actually, now I feel there a little bit.
I'm just saying, like, this is so frustrating.
I come on all these podcasts and I try to explain, like, as a woman.
I'm listening.
And as a woman, I was like explaining why I made this decision and why a lot of other females and women typically make this decision.
You guys need to listen to this as a society.
Okay, you made over 30 bucks an hour, I'm guessing.
I would make over $100,000 a year with overtime in New York City.
Okay.
Okay, but I'm asking, you've made over $30 an hour?
Graduating college, yes.
I've made over $30 for sure, yeah.
Okay, then it's actually impossible.
It's actually impossible for you to have only netted in $4,000 a month.
It's not even impossible.
I live in New York City and I pay sticks.
But if you're talking about your shifts, you're talking about your shifts.
33% taxes.
33% on $100,000.
I'm almost done.
Almost done.
40 hours a week, that would not be possible.
Union dues.
I said union dues.
I said other things that came up with the payment.
Not even with union dues.
Shut up.
Do I have to pull up my paycheck to actually be like, this is the problem with men telling women that they don't know what they're talking about?
People just shut up because I lived this for 13 years ago.
You shut up.
You shut up.
You shut the fuck up.
It's so disgusting the way you're talking to me right now.
It's disgusting.
Literally, I did this for 13 years.
Money is worth yourself.
Do you think I sound stupid?
The West is dying because the family is dying.
Men will refuse to be aware of this.
It's so disrespectful.
It's ready to be drafted since men have the freedom to leave.
Why don't you guys put your weighings away?
But why can't I just be honest about my job and as what I went through?
And you guys are honest about it.
It's really frustrating.
But you're saying your words.
It's not the first time I've had to go on podcasts where you fucking men tell me what I've made as a woman, what my worth as a woman is.
I've been a nurse.
I'm tired of it.
I laugh about it.
Would you treat your daughter like that?
Would you treat somebody you know like that?
Like, let's make fun of nurses.
they gave up their life and went to school and did all this to take care of people he's questioning your math on the my math I liked it.
I lived in New York City.
I had to budget my money and I lived paycheck to paycheck.
This is kind of a boring conversation, anyways.
It's boring.
I'm sorry it's boring to you, but it's honesty, and I'm being honest.
I came on this podcast to be fucking honest.
Why would I sit here and lie?
And I'm being honest.
Okay, I'm going to totally get my paychecks.
I'm going to pull them up.
Next time I come, we'll get them.
It's a cool.
We'll do it.
I'll show you how much money I made ahead of you.
You don't like the money.
You have to say to me.
You said that this podcast is not about making fun of a woman and that I put words in your mouth, but you're using your stream deck and Nick is using his to call her a B-word, to laugh at her.
Like, how was this?
Who called her?
I didn't call her.
Well, you guys have a prompt that says.
You're like insisting this is the kind of money I made.
And I'm like, literally telling, I would never tell you.
You told me your wife, you would leave her if she did this in her past.
I said, okay.
Hey, Andrew, what?
I forgot.
What is this?
Tone policing that she's doing?
Is that what it is?
Is that what that's called?
Speaking up for another word.
She's talking about voicing.
But the thing is funny is like, look, I'm not trying to be me.
I'm just telling you that based on 60 hours a week.
I didn't say I worked 60.
Did I say I worked?
You did.
You did.
16-hour days.
I didn't say 60-hour weeks.
That's irrelevant.
But like, let's argue about it all day.
Let's just move on.
Yeah, newsflash.
If someone's on the verge of tears, you should drop it.
Because then it becomes abusive.
It becomes welcome.
Oh, God, stop whining.
You know what I mean?
Have an adult conversation.
Stop being a whiner.
She's chilling.
She's an adult.
She's not worried about it.
She's chilling.
She's chilling.
She's enjoying it.
And I'm so passionate about it.
I'm so passionate.
She's more of an adult and more honest than you are.
I'm so passionate about.
But you notice how you can only inhale insults.
You can't be an adult without inhaling insults, calling someone stupid.
You called her stupid.
She was on the well of tears.
No, she was on the well of tears.
Look, you can say stop.
She's a nations donated $100.
Of course, she's going to cry.
Oh, how sad.
You had to earn a degree in the greatest country on earth.
I'm not crying about that.
These women lack accountability men need to go overseas and marry.
Playhold divers, two boys.
It's frustrating to try to talk to men who are like the reason I came up with this is because at the rate I came up with $7,200 a month.
That's why when you said $4,000, even with union dues, it's 60 hours a week.
It's 33% taxes in New York City.
There's no fucking way that can't be.
Like, why are we arguing about this?
It's 33% taxes.
Who the hell can?
He cares.
He cares.
All right, stop.
We're going to move on.
We're going to move on.
Actually, we're going to go back.
We're going back to the born-again virgin thing because she wanted to hijack the conversation to bring it back to her nursing career.
So we were initially talking about.
I was overhearing it.
I wasn't at the table, but how if you had a son and he brought home a girl, you would have no, who had the same background as you with the prostitution and escorting and doing adult content and working in a strip club.
Yeah.
For your own son, so long as she's a Christian, you would not have any sort of encouragement or suggestions towards him to perhaps pursue a different partner.
And you're saying she's a Christian, right?
Yes.
No.
She's born again.
What if?
Okay.
She's okay.
If you had, if your son showed you, like, oh, I'm talking to these two girls.
It's very early on.
And he had one girl that had your background, Christian, and another girl who was also Christian but didn't have your background.
And perhaps, let's say, let's use the extreme.
She's an actual virgin.
Would you have a preference there?
Of course, I would always encourage my kids to be with a Christian because I've watched.
They're both Christian.
Okay.
There's not a preference.
You wouldn't have any.
No.
So what if this woman had adult videos of herself online, and whether she's Christian or not, you know that those videos could perhaps have some negative ramifications on her future, on your son's future children?
Maybe he's a career man.
He's a businessman.
Being in a relationship or married to such a woman could have negative impacts on his career.
Let's say perhaps he's in politics, for example, or he's just a businessman.
Even then.
If you don't mind, is that a fact that does affect politicians if their wife has things like that, like lewd content on the internet?
Yes, the partner that if you're partnered with somebody whose reputation is in disrepute, if you choose to marry and partner with them and have children with them, by extension, yes, your partner's reputation, while it's not your reputation, will have Some impact, whether I don't know precisely what the impact might be, but you deny that it would have no impact?
I would say if it did impact what job the husband got, then it wasn't in his will to have that job from God.
That's how I look at it.
Whatever is meant for you will come.
I truly, it's simple.
That's what I believe.
So if your son has career ambitions, but by partnering.
Thank you, Natalia.
Your son has specific career ambitions, but there's he's presented with the choice of two women and partnering with the woman.
Hey, guys, don't talk back there.
Partnering with God, I fucking lost my train of thought.
Partnering with the woman who has this past.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I fucking lost it.
It's okay.
Take your time.
Okay.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I lost my fucking train of thought, but you see where I'm going with this.
Yeah.
So like, correct me if I'm wrong, but so are you saying that if there's two people and then one has a past and they're Christian and one has a past and they're not, which one would I lean more towards if I would lean more towards somebody?
Yeah.
I mean, it's just, I really don't think in that way.
And I know the answer, you know, you would have on that.
I just kind of sense that.
Like, obviously, you think, you know, the less trauma someone has, the less that they've done, you know, explicitly sexually with men, that that would be a better option.
And I see, like, I see how you would think that.
And I will admit there is less trauma with that girl, for sure.
Okay.
Yeah, I get that.
I still wouldn't be biased and say, well, since that girl's a Christian too, just because she hasn't had a past like me, you should pick her.
I just, I wouldn't say that.
I genuinely wouldn't.
I would encourage anything.
I'd be like, you know what?
Like, you're your own person.
I'm your mother.
I've taught you the best I can.
May the Holy Spirit lead you.
You know, he can make his own decision.
May the Holy Spirit lead you.
Yeah.
Your job's to your job as a mother is to mother your daughter, right?
I just said I've taught him all that he could know.
He's 18 now.
He can do, make his own decisions.
What's wrong with that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, they can make their own decisions, but you're the guidestone, yeah?
So your children are going to call you for advice, even past the age of 18.
They're going to call for guidance.
They're going to call for things like this.
Right.
So if your daughter calls for guidance and says, listen, mom, there's two really handsome guys, and they're both really nice to me, and they're great.
One has a Christian background, was raised by a Christian family.
The other one comes from a broken home and is a secularist.
Which one would you advise that she go with?
I mean, I think any human wants someone who's not as traumatic.
I mean, so obviously someone would be like, you know, like, I want someone who treats me well, who's stable.
All of us want that.
It's not just a man.
It's not just a woman.
All of us want that deep down.
And so, you know, we can't cast any judgment on anybody.
And so it's just, it all boils down to.
Why can't you cast any judgment on any?
Because it says only God can judge.
We can't judge.
Okay, let's go.
Should we get rid of judges in courtrooms?
Should we move on?
Honestly, I want to know the answer.
Should we get rid of judges in courtrooms?
Are they doing Satan's work?
They really don't do that.
Well, wait, but they're judging people.
Only God can judge.
Are you judged by your peers?
Judges, you know, that's different.
That's with crime.
This is relationships.
This is free will.
They're judging.
Relationships, it's different.
To me, that's a different category because when you're in the courtroom, hey, you killed somebody, you did this.
That makes no sense.
That's absurd.
They're still making judgment values.
So are they doing the work of the devil?
Just because they're a judge?
Yeah, because they're judging?
No.
My date is a job.
Well, then why can't you judge?
I don't understand.
Why can't you judge?
$100,000 plus a year.
52 weeks a year.
Minus 33% taxes is $67,000.
Far more than $1,000 a week.
No way around it.
They sick math even an E-dollar a day like me can do.
And send me that $1,000.
I'm going to come back on and bring that for.
But yes, I came up with something very similar, just based on 60 hours, but at 100K, that actually, again, that was kind of the next place I was going.
I didn't actually understand the math.
So that's all.
I wasn't even trying to be mean.
I just didn't understand that.
Here, to bring it back.
Okay.
So if you ring them.
What if you found out your son brings back two women, both Christian, one of them has her past, one of them doesn't.
The one who has her past has an incurable STD.
Would you make a judgment and suggest to your son, well, despite her being a repented Christian woman, maybe don't pick the one who has HIV.
Would that be a judgment?
It's not a judgment.
That is a preference.
But also, do you also, this raises a question, do you think that someone with HIV can't have a healthy relationship?
Do you think they can't have love after HIV?
So would you advise your son to date a woman who has HIV?
I mean, I wouldn't encourage it.
No, of course not.
So why is everybody leaving the church, Andrew?
Why is everybody fleeing from Protestantism?
You don't want your kid to date somebody with HIV.
Just say, it's okay to say that.
I don't want my child to date somebody with HIV.
Instead of making Christians look insane and stupid, how about just saying the answer, which is obvious?
You don't want your kid to date somebody with HIV.
I just said that, but I would love it if you could please stop with the insults.
Okay.
I'm not insulting you.
There was no doubt.
I've been respectful towards you, so I deserve that back.
Thank you.
What did I say that was an insult?
You keep saying stupid.
It's not very nice.
I didn't call you stupid.
Not even that.
What you said is stupid.
That doesn't mean you're stupid.
I'm a smart guy who says stupid things sometimes.
It doesn't mean I'm stupid.
Now, back to this, I'm just going to reiterate, obviously and clearly, can't you just give a single, simple, direct answer?
Yes, you would prefer that your kids married Christians, and yes, you would prefer that they didn't have HIV, and yes, you make judgment calls all the time, and that that's okay.
You're trying to put words in my mouth.
I said, yes, of course I don't prefer my kid to marry someone with HIV.
Of course, I don't prefer that.
just gave you a clear answer on that.
So is somebody who's...
That's a judgment.
It's not a judgment.
It's a decision.
This is getting, it's like almost semantics a little bit now, but it's.
Well, hang on.
Semantics are important.
Oh, yeah.
You're talking about something like judgment.
I know.
Is that a judgment?
It's not a judgment.
It's a decision.
It's not a judgment.
But then, so why is that not a judgment to advise your son, hey, maybe don't date somebody who has HIV versus maybe don't date somebody who was previously involved in prostitution and escorting and adult pornographic content?
Why is one a judgment and the other not?
Because it's in the sentence that you said, maybe you're just making a decision based on your preference.
Okay.
It's not a judgment.
A judgment would be insane.
I can't.
I don't think I can.
I can't see these are undatable.
All right.
So moving on slightly.
So, okay, you're a born-again virgin.
Okay.
But you don't consider yourself a virgin, correct?
Physically, of course not, either.
Okay, and I think to you two, you're not a virgin.
Are you asking me if I'm a virgin or if I count myself as a born-again virgin?
Either both, I guess.
I don't count myself as a born-again virgin, like physically.
Okay, but you guys are both waiting until marriage.
Yes.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Are you?
What?
Are you waiting until marriage to have sex?
I plan on it, yes.
What do you mean you plan on it?
I plan on waiting until marriage.
But you're not a virgin, correct?
No.
Okay.
So, I mean, that's 100% your choice.
However, my dating recommendation to any men watching, that's a bad deal.
That's a raw deal for men.
So I do not recommend dating women who have previously been promiscuous, excuse me, who have previously been sexually promiscuous.
That is a judgment.
Because you called them.
I'm fine with judgment.
But see, I'm cool with judgment.
See, you guys like to point the finger, but like women are, when it comes to selecting partners, you guys are fucking ruthless.
Men ask for very, very little from women when it comes to dating.
But you guys will literally have fucking laundry lists of what you need.
Now, just because you guys will say, well, I don't, I'll date an obese person, which I think ultimately is cap.
But the reality is, women are incredibly picky.
Women are the much, they're the more sexually selective sex.
There's an evo-psychic basis for that.
There's a biological basis for that.
So how are you going to tell me about I'm being judgmental, but y'all are super judgmental.
Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
I have.
Would you?
Okay.
The guy who you're ultimately going to marry, would he be shorter than you?
No.
You don't care at all?
I don't.
How tall is your current guy?
He's 6'1.
He's 6'1.
Conveniently, women always say, well, I don't really care about height.
But when you ask them about their past partners and their current partners, they're all conveniently 6'1, 6'2, 6'3, 6'feet.
He's the first guy I've ever dated that's over 6'.
I think we care to an extent for sure about height.
You don't care at all about height.
You gotta be honest and be honest?
You said shorter.
You don't care about anything.
If they're like 3'4, they're care.
Why wouldn't you date a dwarf?
Stop.
Why are you laughing?
That's really rude that there are men who are genuinely dwarves.
Why are you laughing?
That's rude.
So.
I'm just giving you guys back what you've been giving me.
I get it.
I get it.
I gave my honest opinion on it.
Why wouldn't you date a dwarf?
That's a judgment.
I would date a dwarf.
That's really rude of you that you wouldn't date a dwarf.
I'm this pious person who like I am this paragon of non-judgmentality.
Non-judgment, you date a dwarf when I don't like this girl.
Shit.
You don't judge.
Dwarf is preferable.
No, dwarf is way preferable.
I don't judge.
You just said I don't judge.
I like shorts.
For women.
For women.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
So it says in Titus for Christians to make good judgments upon themselves, because if we don't judge at all, then we won't make the right decisions in the right discernment.
They're making a conflation between judging for salvation and making judgments in reality.
There's a distinction.
Christians, we have to make judgments all the time, especially about the value of truth.
We have to.
So we use a mixture of a correspondence theory of truth along with some other theories of truth.
But things, that which corresponds with reality is true.
And so it's okay to make judgments.
It's not okay to make judgments about a person's salvation.
There's a distinction to be made here.
That's why I don't understand.
And I hear this all the time.
You're not allowed to judge because you're a Christian.
That's bullshit.
I have to make judgments every single day.
I have to make judgments about whether to turn right or left when I'm on the road.
You know, those are judgment calls.
So when James says don't judge, and there's scripture that says not to judge sinfully, because I believe that we need to make judgments to decipher between right or wrong.
But there's a sinful inclination behind that.
And I think perhaps I'm not really sure.
Like some of the women are confused, like what you mean by judgment.
Like the definitions are not clear for them.
But what are your thoughts on that when the book of James literally says not to judge people in a sinful way?
Because do you believe that we can judge sinfully?
I don't even understand what the question is.
Wait, I have a quick question.
I got a quick question.
Would it be sinful judgment for me to, for example, when I'm assessing who I would like to date, sleep with, get into a long-term relationship with, Mary, would it be sinful judgment for me to preclude women who have, for example, slept with more than 20 men?
Is that sinful judgment?
I don't think so if it's a preference.
If you're not looking at that woman and saying, gosh, she's like, oh, you know, whatever, like a B-word or like a slanderer, and you weren't thinking I'm better than this woman.
No, like, I think it's not a sinful judgment to say, I prefer a woman who is more, who doesn't have that background.
Can I ask you this question?
Have you slept with more than like 20 women?
20 men?
What?
20 women.
Have you ever been with the virgin?
What?
Have you ever been with the virgin?
Yeah.
Couple.
In a relationship with the virgin.
I've revealed a couple who's a woman.
Taking the virginity and linking it up.
That's the closest I've ever gotten to.
What's the question?
Well, you said, oh, is it a preference?
Is it a judgment if I say, I can't sleep with a woman who's been with 20 men?
But in the Bible, it says, how dare you look at someone else's, you know, like a plank in their eye when you have a log on your own?
I believe we're supposed to make the right judgments based upon that account.
So by your logic, a man who's, say, for example, has slept with 20 women, he is therefore obliged to only date women who have also slept with 20 men or more.
Is that the argument?
That's not the argument.
He's not obliged to.
So my position.
How can he judge them when he's already done that?
Well, let's say he doesn't judge them, but let's just say he has a preference.
And let's say he slept with 100 women.
But he recognizes that there's actually some pretty substantial romantic and dating upsides to dating someone who doesn't have a promiscuous past, despite his own.
And I don't think there's anything removing judgment, but he, despite him having slept with 100 women, perhaps it's a self-reflection on his own behavior.
He realized promiscuous behavior is not good.
It can be a sign of certain past trauma.
It can create trauma the more people you've partnered with, the more people you've dated.
I have no objections to somebody, man or woman, although this tends to go more one way than the other.
I have no objections to a man who slept with 100 women preferring to date a woman with a low body count or a virgin.
Whether he can get her or not is another conversation.
But I don't, I think there's nothing wrong with that.
In the same way, that I bet a lot of the women here at this table are not funny at all and find humor in men incredibly attractive.
Perhaps there are women at this table who are not particularly financially well off, but find rich men very attractive.
Or perhaps you are attracted to men who are confident, but you're lacking confidence.
So, is your position my position?
My view on this is that you need not, in order to desire a trait in somebody, you need not also possess said trait.
So, I don't object to menu.
The Chill $800 donated $100.
There is a difference between judgment, as in sitting in sentence of someone.
Then there is discernment, meaning to choose what is right or wrong for you.
Learn Koine Greek, the understanding is wrong.
Here, let me do a couple chats here.
We have one sec.
Thank you, Chill 808.
Appreciate it, man.
We have Albert Sovereign.
Somebody read this for me.
Do you want to read it?
Me?
The money part is such BS.
You know, men could make the same claim if they were drug dealers.
I'd be an electrician, but slinging his higher-paying male equivalent to it.
Yes, you could have done it.
Warlock, the mathematician, donated $99.
13 shifts a month and $4,000 per month implies $25.60 per hour.
Math is right.
33% tax rate implies a gross rate of $39 per hour.
Average pay in NY is $58 per hour.
Your co-workers were making way more than you bro.
Warlock, thank you.
Is this her ex-boyfriend?
Is this Cheyenne's ex?
I already asked her.
She said no.
You also mentioned you dated a spellbinder.
Was that the Warlock?
That was the one.
Okay.
The Warlock.
We have Josh.
Can you read this one?
What?
Why do I have to read this?
Okay, somebody fucking read it, please.
This is the Oregonian messaging.
I didn't say that right, did I?
What's going on here?
I have had a couple of shots.
How many of you have heard?
Read this.
Okay.
This is the Oregonian message again.
Oh, it's gone.
Shit, man.
Why are you asking me?
Again, for the cute Asian Christian, I'm down to talk theology with you.
How about Brian can connect us via Instagram?
We can FaceTime before I move to flying you out.
Oh, we already heard.
We heard this guy.
He really wants you.
I think you need to Google him.
Damn.
So we sent him a picture.
Send the picture.
Slide in her DMs.
She doesn't care about it.
All right.
It's more about her.
She already said her response earlier because exact thing.
He sounds like a Christian.
He likes you.
Sorry.
You want me to read it?
Where are we on the spot?
You're on the spot.
Just give him a yes or no.
All right.
God damn it.
Someone read this.
Brittany, your OF typer is currently online lying to simps who think they're talking to you.
That's fraud.
Forget repentance.
You should be charged with a felony and OF should be held criminally liable for enabling con artists to defraud people.
That's hilarious.
I think it just says that we're online automatically.
Yeah, for the record.
My shit always says online.
Yeah.
Always logger in.
We're not online right now.
We're not talking.
Fucking.
Case in point, Brian.
As I said last show, women need guests laugh and piss on men like me five foot tall.
We even are on human to human.
I have given up.
Women laugh at the thought of men my height.
It is a joke to them.
Women are the most judgmental.
I feel like find someone.
Get rich.
You're attracted to who you are.
You know, like find somebody that works for you.
It's not like all women.
Take up surfing, dude.
Take up surfing.
That's all I gotta say, man.
Take up surfing.
Or the circus.
Okay.
Going around the table, does body count matter?
No.
No, that's fine.
I'll give a foot.
It does to a lot of men.
Wait, you're not going to be able to do that.
Skip the mic to the edge of the table.
Does it matter to men or women?
You can, just kindly leave it there.
For me.
What's the question?
I said it matters to a lot of people these days, yes.
He asked if it matters to you, though.
I like a guy with a higher body count, but there we go.
That's just, you know.
How about this?
Do you object to men caring about body count?
No, I think that they can have their opinion.
And if they don't like it, whatever.
Fuck them.
Wait, say that again?
Sorry.
Yeah, I agree.
Yes.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
What about you?
Oh, boy.
For which question are we answering?
The one I just asked 30 seconds ago.
We all need to hear it again.
Do we object?
Do I object to men caring about body count?
If it's in the past and they're born again, they're not different questions.
No, I don't.
What if they have an STD from their, they previously slept with 100 people, but they're born again and they caught an STD?
No, I would not date a man with an STD.
That's not what I'm asking.
Would you object to a man choosing to not date a promiscuous woman who happens to have an STD from a promiscuous past?
Yeah, I think it's okay for him to object.
Okay.
Now, what if, what if, instead of that being a physical trauma, like an STD that she has, she has a mental trauma from that.
Yeah, he can object to that.
Absolutely.
Okay.
But so your argument is: well, she slept with 100 men, but there's absolutely been no trauma from it.
No.
Then that would be objectionable.
That's not what I'm saying.
Please, kindly speak into the microphone.
That's not what I'm saying.
So what do you because you said you object to?
can have preferences like if they don't want to be with a woman who's been with 200 men or they don't want to be with a woman who has STDs but okay let's say she doesn't have an STD She slept with 200 men in her past, but she became born again.
If he prefers not to have that, that's okay.
Well, that literally, that's not what you initially answered the question.
How?
I think she misunderstood.
Oh.
You said so long as she's born again and it's in her past, it shouldn't matter.
I'm pretty sure that's what I'm saying.
So I thought you were asking, like, if I would date a man that has a high.
Sorry, I misunderstood the question.
Do you object to a man having that preference?
No.
Okay, what about you?
No, I'm going to agree with Brie.
Like, if he has a preference and I just love you.
Yeah, I feel like everyone has their own preferences.
What about you?
I agree.
Glad we got this from.
We got to talk.
I mean, to be fair, let me push back a little bit on you guys.
You know, we do give disclosures before the show saying if you have something to say, you're welcome to jump in.
You can do a hand raise.
And when we do get around to the table asking for your guys' opinions, you guys will pretty much just be like, yes, no.
So while I understand, yes, it takes longer to get to this side of the table, take a little bit of agency and do reflect that you guys have not made an ass you haven't made an assertive effort to insert yourself into the conversation.
They were talking about religion.
I'm not really big on that.
Right, but you can't be like, oh, they finally got to me.
It took so long.
But when we do get to you, you guys don't say anything anyways.
So, okay.
Okay.
Going back to Cheyenne really quick, you said that you do object to men caring about that.
Well, yes, because it shows a lack of grace.
And like in Corinthians, it says love is patient, it's kind, it doesn't keep record of wrongs.
That's a huge one.
And it doesn't envy, it doesn't boast, it's not jealous.
Like, how is that loving?
What if I'm looking out for my future children?
What if she has adult videos on the internet, and I have reason to believe that knowing how preteen boys are, how teenage boys are, my son may very well likely be bullied because of this woman's videos that are out there.
Is that a reasonable objection?
Well, then I guess someone like me wouldn't be your type then.
That's okay.
That's just well, I'm just speaking.
Because that's what you want.
I would say, okay, for me, I'm just speaking from my own experience because that's all I can do.
It's never been an issue.
My past has never been an issue with anyone.
And I'm like her.
I'm very straight up.
And that's all I can do.
No, because I've done like the line.
That doesn't work.
You can't take it back.
Yeah, so it's like, I just believe when God does bring me that man, he's going to be able to understand he'll love me how I am.
He'll love every aspect.
That's reasonable, right?
And nobody's saying that it's not.
It's totally reasonable to say that you have a past and there's many people who can look past it.
I totally understand that, right?
I have one myself, and so do many others.
But the question becomes: isn't it okay, though, for Christian men who don't have that preference to reject that as a deal breaker?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Let's.
Oh, oh, right.
Okay.
Going around the table.
What's everybody's body count starting with Madison?
Why?
Do you have to always ask me first?
That's the way it goes.
I don't know.
How about that?
Give us a range.
How about that?
100.
Over 100?
I don't know.
But you think it's around 100?
Probably.
Over 100.
Under.
Okay.
Give or take.
What about you?
I never counted.
It's probably about like 30 to 50 range.
I have no idea.
Liar.
I can't say.
I'm a liar.
I have no idea.
Okay.
15 males, like 80 females.
Wait, please.
One last time.
15 females.
I would say leave the microphone where it is.
You don't need to keep it.
Oh, I just speak loud, so I always feel like if I speak too close, I would say 15 males, like 80 females.
80 females, okay.
NA.
Okay.
Here, scoot your mic to the edge of the table, please.
We're here.
No, no, no.
Just go ahead.
Okay.
I don't know either.
Definitely in the hundreds.
In the hundreds.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you.
Let's fucking be honest here, guys.
I'm being honest.
I'm real.
I won't answer.
Yeah, right.
Saw that coming.
Okay.
Oh, zero.
Zero?
Zero.
I would say about five or six.
Okay.
Four?
Five or six.
Okay, we're going to get into some of our pre-show notes here, starting with, wait.
I didn't send any.
Oh, right.
Okay, starting with Alexis Morgan.
That's you, right?
In your pre-show notes, you said that you are conservative and traditional.
Yeah.
You consider yourself traditional.
Yeah, in some points.
Okay.
I took a review of your Twitter and your OnlyFans.
Well, I didn't purchase your OnlyFans, but we looked at the front page, right?
Right.
Your Twitter and your Instagram.
We're not going to pull up your Instagram because we probably get into some sort of trouble for what's on there.
Right.
Is he going for that?
Actually, wait, hold on.
I don't think her instructional is a good idea.
Going around the table, really quick before I get to that.
Do you consider yourself traditional?
I just, I'm independent.
No, not politics.
I don't really know what you're saying.
What the fuck is that?
Explain what you mean by traditional so that you can.
What is that?
I'm going to defer to Andrew on this one, but typically when I think of traditional traditional values, modesty.
So, Inquisitor Zeal donated $100.
Andrew, do you see how much easier it is to just be a zealot?
Yes.
All prostitutes are undateable.
Yes.
All heretics must burn.
You don't have to be charitable with their individualist nonsense.
I think you have to meet people exactly where they're at, or at least try to.
So let me try to give kind of an overview of what I consider traditional to be.
So traditionalism best described as experiments in history which we know have worked.
Okay?
That's what it means.
So when we're talking about experiments in history which have already worked, we're basically talking inside of the United States about a bit of modesty, two-parent household, these types of things.
That's what we're talking about.
We're making a reference to traditionalism experiments, which we know have worked.
Then yes, I am a traditionalist.
You're a, aren't you an OnlyFans model?
Well, I believe in traditionalism.
But yes, I am.
My parents have been married for 40 years.
So I believe in that.
Do I believe in it for myself?
Maybe not.
So I guess, all right, fine.
Untraditional?
I don't know.
Let's have all the girls answer.
Are you traditional?
Do you consider yourself traditional?
I wish I could be traditional, but right now where I am in my career, I'm like honest with myself.
And what I do is like an untraditional thing.
But if I could, I would be traditional.
Like, yes, I came from the same thing Brittany has.
Like, my parents are married, my grandparents are married.
I grew up that way.
I wish I could have that, but I don't have that.
I have to get up, but going around the table, if you all want to answer the question.
Yes.
Go on.
None of them are going to get the third degree.
Just the first one that answers.
Of course.
I would say my friends and family would describe me as traditional, everybody who knows me, but I can tell for me personally, I'm slowly pulling away from that traditional view.
Oh, you're moving away from it?
A little bit.
I feel like I am a traditional person in my mindset.
It's just that this generation.
Is having three sugar daddies traditional?
In the way I operate with them, yes, actually.
Because it's no different really than a cousin giving you money and being like, here, here's for you.
It's a bit different.
Because your cousin giving you money probably isn't engaging in like incestuous lust.
Honestly, I don't think they lust after me the way you think.
Like, you think it's just give you money?
Just nothing in this world is free, right?
Nothing is, but it's not like they're giving me money.
Do you think that they have anything to know?
Do you think they have a romantic interest in you?
Most of them, if they do, keep it to themselves.
They tell me that I look good, and that's it.
There's no pain.
I mean, look, I know there's a lot of sims out there.
I personally don't get it.
I don't get the whole, oh, let me just send a girl $500.
Without anything involved, right?
I just don't get it.
Yeah.
That's weird, but okay.
It happens.
It doesn't make sense.
Yes, I'm traditional.
Yes.
I am.
I would have to say I'm not, because I'm not like waiting until marriage or anything.
Okay.
I would say I'm traditional.
So if you are the ones who claim that you're traditional, if tradition, by my definition, is moving back towards experiments which worked.
Right?
Which of those experiments that worked are you calling back to?
Experiments.
What does that mean?
Can you just say that?
Social experiments which worked.
Meaning, for instance, a nuclear family would be an experiment which worked.
A cross-generational household would be an experiment that worked.
These are sociological distinctions, societal distinctions that we can look at and say, this society in this place, it worked.
So which of these callbacks are you moving towards for these experiments which you think work?
As would you say, like being housewife and letting a man take his role and like be the head of the household?
Okay, yes, I do believe in that.
You believe in that, but I guess what Brian's after here is to determine you can believe that thing is true and that it worked as far as a social norm, but that doesn't mean you yourself act in accordance with that or move in accordance with that.
When there's someone in my life, and that's what we're doing, of course.
Well, I mean, like, is eating shit traditional?
No.
So, I mean, that's like, but that's the point, right?
I'm sorry to be vulgar, but the reason I'm driving the point home is that you understand what it is that I'm talking about, right?
If we're going to give access to a point of these are experiments in society, especially American society, which worked, are you moving towards?
Do we believe in it and are we practicing in it, is what you're saying?
Right.
I believe in it.
I am not doing what's traditional, but I don't feel like what I'm doing is going to keep me from being able to have that traditional experience and life.
I second that.
You know, I think that these podcasters are very much so like saying, like, you're never going to find a man that's going to respect you or you're going to have the traditional households.
Like, I strongly believe that there's somebody for everyone and that I will end up having my, let's say, unicorn in a sense, because you guys always feel that we're never going to find the man that a high value of.
That's a great thing.
I feel like I get approached very much so by high value men all the time.
They see my heart, they hear my mind, and I just, I feel like maybe I'm just the, I don't know.
I just believe I will end up in the traditional, you know?
I don't think that's after you've had, after you've had your fun.
I feel like there's a man that would prefer that I had experienced and have done what I've done because there's a lot of men that wouldn't want the girl that has an experience and has gone, hasn't gone out there and seen what she likes.
I feel like a lot of the men that I prefer to be around would find it rather interesting and different than the normal girl that will bore them that only was with them only.
And how would they know if they would have chosen him over everything else?
I think of when a man is with me, he's like, she's already experienced everything and she's choosing me because that she's already, she knows, she knows what she wants.
She's had it all.
This is why these guys who are red pillars as red pillars.
They actually would use a person like you as a perfect example.
They would say, look, you believe in traditionalism and you think that it works to make society work.
However, when enabled with the superpower being able to do whatever the fuck you want with sexuality in order to make a lot of money, you will do that instead.
And then when you can no longer do that, suddenly you want to be traditional, right?
This is their entire framework for the entirety of their narrative encapsulated in a single person.
Is that not true?
No.
I think.
No.
I mean, how is that?
That's what that is what you're doing, right?
Not really, but I mean.
Aren't you using your sexuality for your own benefit in order to get a lot of money, even though you yourself believe in traditionalism as being the right way and wish that you could be a person who was a traditional woman?
So aren't you doing exactly what the claim of the Red Bill is, which is that you will use your sexuality while you can as a superpower in order to make a ton of money.
And then later when you can no longer use that, then suddenly you'll become a traditional woman.
I would be a traditional woman right now.
I would want to be aware of that.
Well, then what's stopping you?
Nothing is stopping me.
I'm choosing to choose this way because this is what.
This is the way.
But there is men that are traditional that would encourage you to do this.
I mean, it's a great finding.
There's not any more traditional would encourage you to do this.
I think we're just saying that men take traditionalism.
Traditional men take that very, very seriously, and they live the entirety of their lives off of that.
So do you think a true traditional man would want, yeah, you?
I mean, I've been approached by them.
So yeah.
Maybe not, maybe not traditional, traditional, but that is fine.
I find myself like I would want the man who understands it, who is like, you got your money.
He's like, he encourages it.
He understands it.
He obviously like.
Supportive.
He's supportive.
There's no reason.
Like, obviously, I know, I feel that when a man meets me, I know that I'm like, I have a good heart.
I have a good mind.
When he speaks to me, it might just be better than a woman who's traditional who did nothing with her life and just sat there, waited around for a man to make her nice house.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I agree.
think a man can be a provider but that doesn't mean that he is fully traditional i guess that's who cares about the words of this and whatnot At the end of the day, it's like there's somebody out there for everyone.
And I think these podcasts are very like, you're not going to find a man.
There's somebody out there for everyone.
There is.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
We're not for everyone, correct.
But I'm not here saying like, oh, every OnlyFans woman won't find a man.
Like, that's, who's to say that?
You know what I mean?
The statistics literally, well, they don't say that, but they say close to that.
They say that, yes, your chances and likelihood, the more promiscuous you are to maintain an interpersonal relationship with a man over a long period of time, it's odd drastically decrease.
It's odd because I have like both friends that are in the industry or are not in the industry.
And I feel like the ones that are and they're in the relationship are actually happier because they're honest and they're outgoing, they're open-minded, and they're speaking about sexual desires that normally a traditional human.
It's not traditional.
Okay, well, what is true?
So we're non-traditional.
Okay.
Traditional.
It's just a title, right?
Okay, this is what traditional story.
This would be the experiment that worked where two porn stars in history were getting together in holy matrimony in order to go and promote degeneracy.
Of course it's not traditional.
That's a fangled gadget, right?
This is a brand new.
I mean, porn wasn't even legal in the United States for most of its time.
But everybody was watching it.
Have you ever watched porn?
You couldn't watch it because it wasn't legal.
Okay.
Have you ever watched porn?
Have you ever watched porn?
Honestly.
Okay.
Do you think that woman is disgusting and like the actors in the video, you're like, wow, this man is like, because there's such a double standard in society where it's like we put this man on a pedestal, like, wow, I wish it could be him versus the woman.
But you think equally both of them are just as degenerate in that video when you watch it?
Yeah.
So why do you watch it?
Yeah, you're sinning.
I mean, once upon a time, I myself engaged in plenty of degeneracy.
And still in some ways.
So at least you can be honest.
Stop, stop.
Let me answer the question.
Right?
I'm not above myself being a person who has been prone to sin.
The point of Christianity is not perfection, not to say that you're a perfect person.
It's to always be moving towards theosis, being better.
For you to say that there's an identification distinction.
There's no identification distinction between us because you say you have watched porn.
Yes, that's true.
But you are a porn star who advocates for it right this second.
So your argument is so absurd.
It's like saying a person who was a cocaine addict can't tell people it's bad to do cocaine.
Do you understand how absurd that is?
I think it's a little different because porn's not killing people.
Yes, it is.
It doesn't stop their porn.
Where on earth did you ever get the idea that it wasn't?
Of course it does.
How is porn killing people?
It leads to heavier mouths.
Because they're having sex.
Because society works because they're masturbating so hard that their heart stops.
Human trafficking.
Do you think human trafficking leads to a better or worse life?
That's not the same thing.
Do you feel like a drug dealer?
Pornography, the pornography industry banks on human trafficking in a big way and always has.
Both sides of the border, in fact, is a massive problem.
You think it's a problem.
I don't know where you got the idea that pornography doesn't lead to higher rates of drug abuse and mental illness because it does.
Does mental illness lead as a contributing factor to people offing themselves?
Because I think it does.
All of these things are contributing factors to higher rates of women on ourselves.
Early demise.
To be honest.
I have a real quick think point.
I feel like there is a lot of people that go through depression and you're saying all these things about porn stars falling into this bad headspace.
I feel like a lot of it has to do with how the public is making them feel about it.
What you guys are saying about these porn stars and what they're doing.
But it's crazy because you guys are watching it and you're pleasuring yourselves to what these porn stars are doing.
So I feel like if it was just talkable.
Well, that would actually be a better case for me than for you.
So you're saying it's the stigma which causes this.
And yet you yourself may engage in this activity that you think is bad for society, which I would say in turn means we need more stigma.
I don't think it's bad for society.
I think that people learn through it.
think it's sex is healthy i think most of the time some people masturbate and their stress comes like what do they learn from it How to eat shit?
The what?
To relieve someone.
There's a lot of benefits.
That's your fetish.
There's a lot of benefits to porn, you know?
And I feel like the bad stuff that they say that comes from porn is because the world is so like to the cameras and to everyone.
They're like, but porn is bad.
Porn is bad.
But they all wish they could do it, but they just know that people are just talking about it.
So is violence.
You realize that.
Am I putting a gun to anyone's head?
No, I'm relieving someone's stress.
Sometimes, like, porn is healthy for like marriage and relationships and stuff like that.
It keeps somebody from cheating.
You just go to the bathroom.
She just lies and she knows it.
My whole thing is that I don't know.
It's possible you can move towards outliers and say that there are some people whose relationships have been vastly improved by pornography.
And I'm not even disputing that.
I'm sure that there's truth to that somewhere, okay?
But we do.
You know, we can look at our society pre-pornography, right?
Like, this is not a thing which we have a massive history of.
This is a new phenomenon in the West of having unfettered access to pornography.
And overwhelming, every single societal and sociological study overwhelmingly shows that not only is it bad for the women who are engaged in it, but it's really bad for the men who become addicted to it.
It rewires their brain, quite literally.
But like anything, it's like when you're addicted to cigarettes or when you're addicted to vaping or when you're addicted to just doing anything like PlayStation, everyone has a different fix.
It's life.
Yeah, it's true, but you can make distinctions in society between people who might habitually.
I think it's beautiful.
It's like we're reproducing, though.
That's what we're supposed to be doing.
We're not.
That's the big problem.
We're not.
In fact, our birth rates are under replacement rate way below replacement rate.
And the reason that they're under replacement rate is because women will say, well, I love tradition, but I'm going to wait until all my fertile years are behind me, and then I'll get married when they're in their 30s.
And that's why the average rate of a woman getting married in the United States is 30 years old.
I think that it has nothing to do with the woman.
I think although women say that we want to get married when we're in our 30s, we do want to find our Prince Charming to sweep us off our feet.
But because these days and how men are perceiving women and how they want to live their life first, it's actually causing this to happen.
So women are just saying, I'm going to live my life.
That's my point.
Ideally, when a woman is a child, we are hoping to find our Prince Charming from a child.
So I think that if we just found our Prince Charming at 19, 20, we would be married then.
So we're just this is something that we're just saying because in the end of the day, I feel like you're Prince Charming at 19.
Do you think that going into an OnlyFans career for money is going to make you more likely to find that Prince Charming or less likely?
I don't think that anybody's thinking of that.
think that they're thinking about survival and i think they're putting their family first i mean i know for my decision was i wanted to put thinking about survival that's ridiculous For some, it could be different for everybody.
$1,000 a month.
That's ridiculous.
Yes, it is.
Most people would be more than pleased to have a $30 an hour job and they would be surviving just fine.
Correct, but some people, some people.
I do this for survival.
I always know the second a woman says, I do this for survival, and then we ask what her paycheck is, what do you think most people survive on?
Everything is for different people.
Everyone has different reasons why they joined.
Maybe they got out of a, I can't say, I can't speak for why she joined OnlyFan.
I can't speak for, I know why I might have.
You all joined it for the same reason because you wanted the money.
Okay, and that is fine.
But maybe some didn't have the parents to tell them, hey, this is the colleges.
What do you mean?
You don't know the reasons then.
You all know the reasons.
And all I'm saying is there's no, that's why.
Everyone has different reasons why they joined.
No, they don't.
I think as long.
It's the same reason.
They all do it for money.
Okay, and which money causes financial freedom.
I will say my financial freedom has led to my family in Cuba having ACs.
Like we all have houses.
Like I've done good things with my money.
I don't think that the girls that are doing that.
And all you had to do in order to get that was prostitute yourself.
Do you think that was a good exchange?
Does your dad say thanks to the AC?
I'm glad that you prostituted yourself for my AC.
Honestly, does your dad say thank you for prostituting yourself so I have air conditioning?
Well, that's not spoken about.
But you get because porn is so top phenomenon.
It's not spoken about.
It's not prostitution.
I mean, you guys at the end of the day.
It's not a prostitution.
It's not.
At the end of the day, I know everyone is saying whatever about porn, but I know that it arouses you, even though you don't say it.
I know you have seen it at one point in your life.
So I'm just, my whole thing is like, just, I feel like we shouldn't really stop just trying to put these OnlyFans and porn stars down because that is why.
So here's the thing.
It's a good thing I'm not the sum total of just my biology and I have higher reason and that though I can agree that pornography could arouse me.
There's no doubt that that's true.
I also have this great thing called the choice to not view it even knowing that it's true.
So whether it arouses me or not, it's beside the point.
I don't think that if put to the question, if I asked your old man, hey, all she had to do was prostitute herself for your AC, that he would say, good on her.
Do you honestly think he'd say that?
Who is it harming?
Would he say that?
My dad doesn't give a fuck, but he also loves me.
He just wishes I couldn't.
It's unconditional love, whether your child is a killer or that you're going to love them no matter what.
You understand?
That's their decision.
That's an issue.
Love, I'm not talking about love or whether or not your father loves you.
I'm sure he loves you very much.
You're his daughter.
I'm not saying anything about whether or not he loves you or cares for you.
But if that was the only alternative that a woman had, I'm not saying that that was.
She makes a lot of money, can buy you AC if she prostitutes herself.
Would he be behind that?
I'm not saying that that's what was my decision or anyone, but everyone had different reasons.
Maybe that they were doing something.
I've heard of different.
Okay, you don't know as many porn stars and creators as I do.
I've heard and I've listened to people behind closed doors of why they joined.
And, you know, some of these people are the nicest people that I've met.
I will say, like, I just think.
Do you know any of them who have motivation other than money for why they join?
Money is the reason that spoiled this movie.
Money is the reason why there's being.
Men aren't interested in dating women who act like men.
Men go overseas because Western women are toxic and act like the men they want to be with.
We want femininity and your laundry perfect, except be a masculine man, provide for the woman, then take her away.
Like, that's just simple.
It's not so complicated.
It's like, in the end, I just, all I'm saying is that I feel like, you know, these podcasts are always trying to say like that we're not going to find a high-value man.
The same thing, we're just repeating.
And I feel like it's bringing down these OnlyFans and porn stars, and it's making them more depressed because it's just putting things in other men's head.
Like, oh, that's not a good woman.
Honestly, some of my porn star friends are just, they care more for me than just like my non-porn star friends.
Like, I think that they're some of the nicest, open-minded individuals, you know?
So I just feel like we should stop bashing people.
I'm reconciling this when people hear this, right?
When they're trying to reconcile it in their brain.
Right.
They're hearing this.
I do this because I'm a strong, empowered woman, and it makes me a lot of money.
And then when pressed on it, the second they're pressed on it, it's no, it's because I have a poor family in Cuba.
It's like, but aside of that, what if they found a passion in it?
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I'm almost done.
You're not doing it because of the poor family in Cuba.
A side effect of you doing it may be that you can buy AC for a poor family in Cuba, but your motivation is purely self-interest.
Let's not kid ourselves.
It's purely self-interest or you wouldn't do it, right?
My last comment is, what if I found passion in it?
What if I have tried different jobs?
I could tell you like four or five different jobs that you'd be like, oh, well, I used to code.
Which is why I used to do that.
I used to code.
I used to code.
I use a life insurance and health insurance.
For any reason other than money.
And the answer was no.
And that's fine.
But for some reason, right now I have, I can retire if I wanted to.
But I will say I will find, I will kind of find like something's missing.
Like I find the thrill of like creating content.
Like, because in the end of the day, it's not just like, oh, we're getting on set and we're doing like an OnlyFans video.
No, it requires marketing.
It requires creativity.
There's a lot to it.
You know, because if it was just that easy.
Would you do it for free?
The what?
Would you do it for free?
I used to.
Do it for free.
Just influencing on Instagram.
Would we do anything for free?
Literally, we have 24 hours.
We're making money.
Just build my followers.
Would you do this?
I can't send a jury.
I've never donated $100.
Imagine eating dingleberries on video and thinking you have a standing to provide a substantive argument on your own.
You said that you have a passion for what you do.
Does that include the ass eating?
Well, that's like just like.
Because you said you have a passion for it, right?
Like, what if you have a passion?
Like, it's not a bad thing.
No, I have a passion.
Right, right.
No, I have a passion for just like, I enjoy the creativity.
Just say it.
Well, yeah, that's outside of the job.
I do that in my personal life.
I love that.
I have always found myself like a more sexual person.
I do.
I am proud.
I do feel like this job has made me more open to like cooking up with girls.
Prior to OnlyFans, I was too shy to tell a girl, hey, I want to eat your pussy.
Right?
Sorry for the ovariant language.
But now I feel like I've had a lot of sexual experiences.
I'm happy.
I'm making a lot of money from it.
Not saying that that's the only thing.
I feel like OnlyFans videos is 5% of what we do, and 95% comes down to marketing and showing up and thinking and brain blasting.
There's just so much to money because that leads to more money.
That's why you market it dual.
Would you do it for free?
Would you get on this podcast for free?
I'm doing it right now for free.
But like, you're getting something out of it, clearly.
Like, you wouldn't just.
I mean, listen.
Okay, this, I have one last, I have one last comment, and I will say, even though we don't all see it, a lot of these podcasts are thriving because of OnlyFans models sitting at these tables.
So let's just appreciate it.
Okay, the ass eater should go back to eating ass so she can shut her suckhole.
As a fellow Hispanic, I know your father would call you a puta and reproof you.
You are an embarrassment to your old fam.
No, that's not how they feel.
That's not fun.
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that.
This is fun.
No, but she made a good point, though, about your podcast with these broadcasts.
If OnlyFans creators honestly, if OnlyFans creators are talking about Christianity all night, honestly, like, all right, so in the end of the day, a lot of these podcasters are thriving because you guys are essentially having a back and forth with what's right and what's wrong.
If we were not OnlyFans creators, we wouldn't be having this conversation and the panel would kind of be boring.
Actually, to be honest, I mean, I think that some of our most interesting and viral moments came from debates with women who were not doing OnlyFans.
Right, but they were talking about not doing OnlyFans.
No.
And, well, listen, if we can talk about Andrew Tate or just like all the other podcasters that you know talk a lot about OnlyFans and what these porn stars are doing, a lot of the money is circling around because of what's going on.
Let's not, you're not going to admit it, but you know that at the end of the day, prostitution is surrounded the Bible.
The broadband.
It's been a thing.
It's been around forever.
Why is it still around at this era?
Like, why is it still here?
Truthfully, like, if there were women who were just like left-leaning, who just wanted to come on and debate like politics, culture, worship, even dating.
But you seem like you were bored when they were talking about God, though.
Yeah, you were funny.
Yeah, so then again, please let me know when you tell us.
No disrespect.
I'm not even meaning to say that.
I actually thought the debates, I mean, but they were still comparing themselves to prostitution and stuff.
This panel would be quiet if we didn't have something to compare to.
So in the end of the day, I think that we should appreciate it.
Disagree.
Disagree.
Okay, let me know when, hold on.
Let me know when you have four episodes where there's not one OnlyFans or porn start creating and there's not one topic that has to do with anything of prostitution.
You do the booking for me.
Get me like woke leftist liberty.
But it would be a boring panel because in the end of the day, this is what's going on in 2024 and it's interesting.
Honestly, true.
I've said it multiple times.
I actually don't like the porn bad conversation.
I think it's boring, actually.
Because it's like we've had it so many times.
Actually, the much more interesting conversations would be had with like woke SJW liberals who aren't involved in sex work.
And we can still have discussions on body count because they're probably promiscuous anyways.
We could hit all those topics.
And honestly, I'm more interested in.
Do you ask the same questions?
Like, let's say I was a politician and I came on your show.
Would you ask me about my body count?
Like, you'd ask me a body count question.
I was asking.
You would ask me.
But that's such a 2024 question that's going around.
The word body count is just so used on like these like Instagram and it's used me.
I mean, okay, let's just come down to it.
I mean, this is the like most respectful way.
At the end of the day, you probably fund more to having girls like us on your panel because they're very much interested in this and because we're hot, good-looking girls.
And let's be realistic.
I wouldn't be here because if this didn't provide any financial benefit, correct?
This is like such a kind of dull meta conversation about the show, but I would actually argue, I mean, if you're talking on the financial aspect, what when Andrew was having his back and forth with these two over here, but hold on, just let me check the installation.
Oh, Cheyenne, yeah, of course.
With Cheyenne.
Oh, my God.
Coming her name.
Like, I'm off like number five.
And Claire, yeah, you know, I got it.
I didn't even remember their names.
That's what I mean.
Like, if we're talking about, oh, well, you wouldn't make as much money.
Actually, like, the majority of the super chats came in when he was debating them.
But what were they previously before?
Yeah, but we weren't debating about what they were previously.
We were debating.
Okay, I would say this meta conversation is like because you know that I'm getting somewhere.
No, you're not.
You're actually not.
No, I know.
Well, I prepared my point just got just got wrecked because we were debating theology.
I didn't ask them any of those questions about their sexual history at all.
It wasn't even checkmate.
Of concern to me.
We were just debating theology.
Checkmate.
But you're still part of whatever.
Take the L. I'm not taking the L.
I got the W. Listen, but it's good.
At least I'm enforcing positivity because I do feel like at the end of the day, you're going to jerk off in the next five years, correct?
To porn.
Well, give it all a face description.
Don't say that, babe.
Oh, no.
I will say, listen, most of the time that I've gone on to these podcasts.
Andrew, are those menthols?
Can you give me a cigarette, bro?
I need to fucking pass it through their people.
Pass it through the seat.
Here, cowboy killing Marlborough Reds.
No, 27.
Can I just ask a question to the ladies?
I was just wondering, like, you guys are saying you're doing it for the money, right?
Well, money and different reasons, correct.
I actually have fun doing it, but yeah, money.
And then I think you said that you would actually prefer not to be doing it.
So recently, like, originally, I preferred to do it for money, but I'm actually enjoying it a little bit.
Like, I'm enjoying exploring my sexuality and kind of like having sex on my own terms and it's safe because I've been in situations where I've had unsafe sex, like where I thought maybe I was with a partner or like just casually having sex with somebody and we weren't getting STD tested all the time.
And there were situations in my life where I was like, oh my God, you're being a jerk.
Like I'm being loyal to you.
So this situation, I kind of feel like I own my sexuality.
I own who I'm sleeping with.
We're getting tested.
We're showing up and we're making some money from it.
And I'm not sleeping with just anybody.
And it's kind of like, in a weird way, an empowering situation.
Maybe it's from my abusive past with men where I feel like I'm in control of what I'm doing and I'm having fun.
And a lot of people can judge that.
And I completely understand people judging my life.
For the three of you, if you guys found a man that like could financially be stable and could take care of you, I wouldn't say that.
No, I would not.
I wouldn't.
At the end of the day, what if he be joining, walk away from me?
Like, exactly.
However, I would not, I also wouldn't have sex then.
Like, I would just do my own kind of like, like, because I made a lot of money just selling extra.
Like, it depends on the type of content.
You're always able to be a shapeshifter on there.
Like, last year I was in a relationship with somebody for eight months.
I didn't make any content.
It was solo.
Or it was just photos and different things.
Maybe my income took a little bit of a hit from it, but I was okay because I made good financial decisions.
So it depends on who I'm dating and what they're comfortable with.
And I would have that conversation with him.
Here, what do you guys think about this?
I don't think men should pay for first aids if the woman does OnlyFans.
How about that?
They won't know until I'm going to date us a date with you.
Probably disclose the fact that you're.
No, we'll go on the date and then during the date they'll ask us what we do and then we'll tell them, I just had that happen actually yeah, what.
So what if he finds out and he's like he found out 30 minutes, I would tell him that I had done porn and then still paid for my date.
So oh, i'm sure it happens.
Men absolutely, just because there's a uh, competitive pressure on men, despite women totally uh, sometimes abandoning hold on let me just finish despite a lot of women totally abandoning their traditional roles in the courtship process, they still expect and ultimately primarily because of simps and men not having a backbone on this still ultimately end up receiving traditional treatment from men.
So you could be a porn star who just fucked five dudes yesterday and a guy's still gonna go ahead and pay for your dinner and treat you like a princess.
But, like I don't expect that treatment, I usually offer to pay for half of the meal good for you, and then they usually end up just paying for it anyway, which is great on them, but I actually always ask if they want to split it.
So come and ask.
But y'all, y'all are tradition, y'all are not traditional women, but you want men to be traditional, that's.
I never said that.
I don't think.
If you ask, I just want to fucking ask you out.
Yeah, you ask guys, I want to have fun a lot, why not?
Yeah, do you?
Hey, would you like to go out to dinner?
Yeah like, yeah.
But like, let's say Jeff, I wouldn't say like, oh wow, he didn't offer to pay the bill because I asked, wait, can you just get your mic that way?
Generally speaking though, women are not taking the initiative like that, I would.
I would interested.
What if we just say we'll split the bill this way?
Huh, what if we just say we'll split the bill for a guy to pay for you though, of course, of course, who the hell wouldn't?
But my position?
But, like i'll always say, do you want to split this bill?
Would you prefer a woman to pay for the date ever?
Yeah, it's better for a woman wait, wait you, you don't always, he said it's better for women.
Um I, I feel like I do, just because the man expects to, and I just want to show him that like, my intention is not just to use him for, you know, for to pay the meals, just to show i'm just like.
I'm interested in like getting fair, you know.
That's why I say I would.
There's no question about it.
If there's a hesitation, like I would just do it most of the time, like I, I just have.
Yeah, it's better for the woman simps, to be honest, she should pay for that.
Oh goodness, so we're not gonna get into that.
How about it's just like 50 50, whatever goes.
Every situation is different, different things for different folks who know the situation in.
In my purview, it's better if the woman simps for you, because then she's actually really.
She's actually how into you, like super into you.
Right, i've been a sugar.
We've both been in a situation where I paid for men.
It's also my position that I would.
I would pay for the date but like, if she's like, it depends how she goes about it.
If she's like trying to assert herself and try to be like dominant in the situation, then no right.
But if she's like I like you so much, i'm gonna be a simp and almost be your slave.
Oh, he's a dom, sign me up.
Yeah, that's that's where it goes, where I told you that I.
I have participated in that before.
There you go.
I still want to lead though, but you can be a simp you like.
I mean, what would you let a woman word be a woman?
Have you lead you around like a top beat?
Ever let a woman pay for the first date one time okay, one time Yeah, she got me a burrito.
Did you see it with her?
No, no, we didn't hook up.
She's waiting.
Probably because you let her pay for the first date.
No, she was waiting for marriage, and I told her I told her I 100% respect that, but I don't want that.
This is a great topic of conversation then.
But, okay, so let's say a woman said, I'm waiting for marriage.
You would absolutely not date her, but you have a whole podcast about kind of like.
I don't really make claims that I'm super traditional.
Somehow you're not.
In some aspects, I am, but.
I don't get that vibe after the podcast.
I kind of feel like you're open-minded a little bit.
Sure.
Not like other people.
I'm not saying, I never sit here and say I'm a super traditional guy.
Wait, so the question was.
I feel like would you be able to date a woman that's telling you I'm waiting until marriage?
I'll answer in a minute.
Julium donated $100.
Women need to listen to men who challenge them, not the ones who tell them whatever they want to hear to get laid.
Wake up.
Men have standards.
Boys have desire.
Andrew is a father figure for culture.
Oh my God.
Maybe she would have to be exceptional.
And for me to wait until marriage, she'd have to be exceptional and insanely out of my league.
But then I would question, why would a woman out of my league choose me?
Also, I think.
Because you have to.
So your question, you bring up something interesting.
You ask, aren't you the perpetuator of this situation basically a whore maker yourself, right?
This is the big question.
Aren't you, by participating in having sex before marriage, actually making more women like us who can't find men who refuse to be with women who won't wait till marriage, essentially?
This is what your point is, right?
I actually, like, I do agree when I hear people say, like, you should wait till you're married to have sex because you don't know any better.
So if I never had sex before and he was my first partner and we had sex, it would be the best sex of my life.
And I probably wouldn't want to go out and fuck anyone else.
Yes.
Not only that, but think about this.
That's not reality anymore in society.
And it just so happens.
You have to see if we have sexual chemistry with someone.
It just so happens that people, it's a society as a whole.
Like we need to change that picture for kids that are growing up and different things and have different conversations.
Like we're having these now.
These are great.
But what I'm saying is like it's traditional values that we're not teaching maybe to the younger generation like for what you're saying because people it's getting it's gonna get worse and worse.
Can I ask you guys a question?
Yeah, I hate your own family.
To push back on this real quick, women are the gatekeepers of sex in reproduction, not men.
Or horny.
So it's impossible.
It's actually an impossible women to make to say, it's actually men's fault for making us this way.
It can't actually be men's fault because you're the gatekeepers of sex, not men.
I think it's biologically like when you're growing up and you're like a young female and you're getting your period at like 11 like I did.
Oh, that's right.
I couldn't control my hormone sometimes.
And like it's, you learn things in school, but shit happens.
And like you're taught to like be, it's like you demonize sex.
Like as a young kid, you're like terrified to understand it or explore it.
And we're not like educated on it.
So you're thinking it's such a negative dirty.
No, no, no.
You're educated on sex in school at a young age.
I was not.
And at younger and younger.
I went to Catholic school.
Do you think I was educated on sex at a young age?
I've never heard about sex.
Well, I don't think maybe you're educated on how to eat a man's ass.
But yes, I think the basics of penis goes in vagina.
were educated on yeah excuse me on the oh the she's i think you knew how it worked and i think you knew where babies came from did you think it would But we're not taught like you're taught right and wrong.
You're taught, like, this is wrong.
Sex before marriage is wrong.
Like, in a Catholic school.
That's a great message.
Okay.
But for, but there's, like, it's so different.
Like, in different families, like, some people are swingers.
Like some people's parents are swingers.
Like you think they shouldn't do that.
That's bad.
Okay.
That's your opinion, though.
But we shouldn't project on other people what they shouldn't do.
You have one life to live.
You have your opinion and we have yours.
There's different things for different boats.
Everyone has different opinions.
Just like everyone has an ass wave.
Non-stop.
Wait, let me.
I do want to answer your question, though.
And also, can you show me that tattoo?
Which one?
The four-on-one.
You know the vibes.
I was just asking it that way.
Can you show it to the camera right here?
You know the vibes.
What are the vibes?
I don't know the vibes.
It's one of my favorite tattoos, and I know it's such a random tattoo.
I get tattoos for memories.
And I used to do Art Basil events because I think.
Oh my God.
Who the hell?
Exactly who it goes.
He asked.
He cares.
So I used to do Art Basil events, and I'm an artist.
I paint.
So I took my OnlyFans money to try to provide for myself outside of OnlyFans in the beginning.
And I paid $60,000 to throw Art Basil events with my art.
And this was right before the pandemic hit.
And it was such a cool event that we had a tattoo artist tattooing there.
And it was an ongoing joke.
And we all would say, you know the vibes, you know the vibes.
So we all, five of us got a matching tattoo.
So every time I see it, I think of the event and I think of like a fun time in my life.
That's what it is.
You know the vibes.
Woo!
Such a random tattoo, I know.
She had a question.
Oh, wait, I think I was going to answer your question, which was, would I date a girl who's waiting until marriage?
Well, I mean, the ship has sailed on my end on that.
Why do it?
What do you mean?
Oh, because you're dating a girl that didn't wait.
No, I'm saying I've had sex before.
But what if you like, but okay, you can meet a girl tomorrow that was like, I'm.
Yeah, so she'd have to be, she'd probably have to be a virgin.
She'd have to be exceptional for me to even consider it.
But I also have hesitations when it comes to marriage, regardless of the quality of my potential partner.
So marriage is probably out of the picture for me.
Not to say that I'm just trying to run through a bunch of girls.
Like I actually value it.
She's being honest, though.
I value long-term relationships.
Like I don't want to sleep with a girl just once.
If I do sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
I want to continue seeing her.
And it's, yeah, I mean, there's, to me, there's no point in just sleeping with a girl once and never seeing her again, talking to her again.
Like, if I sleep with you, I want to continue seeing you.
Good.
And I do prefer long-term relationships.
But when it comes to if she's waiting until marriage, again, she'd have to be so exceptional to one, convince me to wait until marriage, and then two, to even get married.
You're like, here, I'm putting right now.
So, yeah, I'm probably, I'm going to say no.
Probably not.
Probably not.
But I don't know.
Cheyenne, she's born again.
No.
Just kidding.
Okay.
She's sweet.
She's nice.
She's nice, though.
Shine's nice.
Who knows?
Maybe.
That's a question.
Yeah.
Okay, so for you guys, for what you said before, if you did have a daughter, or like if you have a niece in your family, would you teach her the same values that you guys hold now about sex and stuff?
Which are what?
Like how you think about your view on sex.
Like, would you want her to be an OK?
Well, like for me.
I would just be like, until you're 18, you're not allowed to fuck anyone.
Wait, is this for daughters?
Like, would you teach your...
Because some don't want children, right?
So I want that I don't want children.
I'm at the age where I'm like almost 40.
I'm going to be 39 this month.
I didn't have that chance to have kids and people always say that to me.
And it's not like I hate when my fans say like, oh, you're single or you're not going to have kids.
I just didn't meet that person that I wanted to have kids with.
It's not a choice at that point, like years ago.
It just didn't happen for me.
So I'm just living my life.
And I have a niece.
And like I say all the time, my family doesn't know what I do.
I'm very careful at keeping it secret.
And that's.
You're on a podcast right now.
Mine knows that.
They're never going to find out.
They're never going to know where they live in.
My dad has a flip phone with phone numbers and he doesn't know how to use a phone.
And my mom is like, so in my alias on Instagram, I was a nurse for years and nobody knew what I did.
I had my name and like, I thought about that kind of stuff.
And yes, I say, my niece, I'm not going to, hey, guess what I do on the internet?
She's a little kid.
Like, no.
But if it ever came a topic of conversation when she's older, I would tell my brother, like, how are we going to address this?
And what would you be comfortable with addressing?
So for the sake of time, I want to try to get through a couple notes here and then hopefully we try to wrap things up here pretty soon.
So I'm going to start.
I think I was getting through some of Alexa's notes here.
So.
Oh, actually, we've got some tweets.
Let's react to some tweets.
Tweets?
Who's tweets?
Wait, Bridge.
Remember when you said if you were traditional when you asked if we were traditional?
Wait, what?
When you asked if we were traditional.
What about it?
Can I change my answer real quick?
Insulin aspects, yes, but like, yeah, insulin aspects, yes.
I am.
Because remember, so I'm a virgin, but I'm not waiting until marriage.
Because I know, yeah, I can't wait.
Is that like, are you propositioning me right now?
No, I'm just going to want it.
Wait, are you both?
You're both virgins?
Yes.
He's like, no.
No, I'm honestly serious.
I'm badass.
No, sorry, I said New York.
I'm being so for real.
What's your body count?
You won't answer.
50-something.
You won't answer that question, but earlier you were on me for not answering a question.
You have a separate piercing.
Every time.
Every single year.
Literally.
He literally respected when you said that you wouldn't say what your body count was.
No, he got really upset.
He asked you to rate.
He said, why would you answer such a basic question?
No.
Specifically, he said that he would respect you saying that you didn't want to say your body count.
Your argument was specifically over wifing.
That was it.
I wasn't making that face to Andrew.
I was just like, I'm sick as fuck right now.
Great.
He asked me if the sky was blue and then asked, why would I not answer that question?
That has nothing to do with body count, has it?
But that was the thing that he was asking about.
It wasn't about body counts.
And then you're saying that you giving yourself a self-rating about beauty and your wife and how much you thought you would be a good wife.
And when it came to body count, specifically, he said it's okay if you don't disclose that.
That's why I take notes.
Do you want to tell me what it is after the show, privately?
Yeah.
Your body count?
No.
Okay.
What about yours?
You don't tell us.
I don't disclose.
Why?
It's more than one.
Let's just say it.
Because you don't know it.
You don't keep track.
Oh.
You both said I didn't.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, I've had sex at least one time.
Wow.
One time, I know.
You're so good with sex.
Wait, I have a question for you.
I'm good.
Because I actually have a religious friend and we actually fight about the argue about it.
That's actually great endorsement.
I'm going to put that on my.
You're great at sex.
Thank you.
I'll put that on my resume.
That's so good.
I'm my only friend.
Oh, wait, now they're going to be like, oh, what?
Did they have a fucking rendezvous prior to the great suspect?
All the time.
All the fucking.
All right.
No, we have not had carnal knowledge of each other.
Who you and Cheyenne?
No.
Oh, okay.
Nothing you missed.
I was just saying that.
I don't want to have common knowledge with you.
He had sex with one human.
He said.
Yeah, but the stats and piercing, I'm sorry, that I feel like.
That's like a girl who's just like fully blasted in tattoos.
Like, just super.
She only has one.
I only have a nation.
Same.
I don't know.
I just getting another one, but no tattoos.
It's kind of like you attract what you are, and I feel like people, like, it's kind of like, I don't know if I'd be comfortable dating a guy that had no tattoos because of the reasons or why or whatever reason I got them.
It's kind of like.
Chucks.
It's not going to work for us.
It's not going to work for us, but you can debut your dick on my OnlyFans, you know.
Oh, yikes.
Wait, can I ask him my question?
Can I ask him my question?
Oh, what was your question?
So, my friend, he's religious.
He's very, very, you know, religious.
He says that if you have sex in any form, oral, anal, that you lose your virginity.
Is that true?
Do you guys believe that?
I guess the question is: like, what does he mean by virginity?
If we're talking about the physical anatomy of our body, no.
Oh.
Are you saying you s some D?
Yeah.
More than once?
Like a good one.
But in terms of like spiritual, like, he might be saying that you.
Technically, you're a virgin.
But I haven't had sex.
You're like half a virgin.
I know.
I mean, don't people say like anal sex isn't losing.
Oh, yeah.
Have you had anal sex?
No, I haven't had any.
Nothing's going on.
Nothing is going on.
Why do you say that?
No, it's.
Wait, what?
I have a very weird view on religion because I actually worked in Oregon.
I've had the Taco Rub Hospital.
I've seen some shit.
Can't say I know what happened.
Have you guys heard of that?
The Taco Rub?
Oh my god again.
Yeah, go to the tweets.
Mr. Lambert.
What is that?
All right, we've got some tweets here from our dear friend Alexis.
I think these are from Alexis Morgan.
Can't wait.
Oh, make it bigger, Nick.
Make it way bigger.
It's your response.
Wait, wait, wait.
Mind you, I want you to view.
Wait, wait, wait.
Come back.
I want you to view these tweets from the frame of in her pre-show notes, Alexis over here, our dear friend Alexis.
She said that she's conservative and traditional.
And she argued as much on the show.
So let's see her very traditional tweets.
Can you?
And I want you to read these.
I will.
Okay, go ahead.
The face a man puts on when they've made me squirt.
How does that?
That was a boyfriend.
Okay.
Next.
How is that not traditional?
Like, we all squirt.
Or, like, not everyone, but it's.
Read this.
Just read it.
Who was I choking at that time?
All right.
2022.
Choking men while riding them.
Super traditional.
With greater signs.
Next.
I love that.
Good night to the men that moan when eating pussy.
Correct.
It's like good night.
I mean, come on.
You should want to do it.
Shout out to the men who aren't afraid to admit that they like their assay.
I told you.
Men lie about how much they like it done.
Yes.
I told you.
You can't say I'm a liar.
I'm about to do that.
That's fucking disgusting.
No, the question is: who am I doing it to?
I'm doing it to my partner.
In that time, I was in a serious relationship, and I'm just tweeting it.
I'm wording it in a way.
Hold on, hold on.
That's disgusting.
I can't believe it was that one.
Oh, please.
He's the biggest one that gets his ass at.
Yes, literally.
Oh, he's kind of funny.
I think Andrew Tate's a bitch.
I have friends that Andrew's cook with him, and I know him.
But, anyways.
Hold on.
Cool.
Andrew Cook.
Andrew Cook.
But yeah, I still vouch for it.
There's more.
There's more.
Oh, yeah.
Give me them.
Oh, shit.
Here we go.
I love speaking Spanish while I get by a big white cock.
I like BBW.
Wait, wait, is it BBW?
No, it's BWC.
BWC, I do.
And I am Latina.
Word.
Poppy.
You said the word?
Nice.
Next.
Same.
Bro, that's so...
Men who kiss you after you suck their dick.
Yes, because a lot of men don't want to, they're afraid of the saliva or they're just like very just like germo.
And it's like, dude, it's your dick.
If your dick is dirty, then it's like, it's my mouth and you're dick.
Yeah, what if.
Yeah, but okay, so your argument is basically like, let's say the guy blasts in your mouth and he doesn't want to kiss you after he does that.
He's loser.
Well, I'd spit it in his face.
Like he finishes or he's kind of cut.
I could understand like when he finishes in my mouth, like he doesn't want to if it's in my mouth, correct?
But like I've had a good night kiss after.
Are we not allowed to respect men's sexual boundaries?
Well they make us like kiss kiss them after they go down on us.
Correct.
Well if they're making you are you saying they're forcing you?
No, they're not making us, but they will.
They come up in their thickness after doing that and then there's like they grab you from, like wait, what was the comment you made?
I heard something about.
You said it was a little what.
What, bro?
You literally made a comment about her tweet.
Oh that, that's big dick energy to do that.
No, you said it was little.
What if he doesn't?
If he doesn't do it?
Oh, little bitch, I love that.
No, I don't do that shit.
You don't kiss off your head.
No oh, what?
That's not right.
Tasted your cum.
We've brushed, we brush our teeth with it, just kidding.
There'll be, there'll be a girl that they'll make you forget that there's even cum in your mouth and want to kiss her right after.
No, it's like you trying to.
If she's like trying to come at me, I'm like come back.
She's going for a kiss, like I'm like be gone.
This is so fucking nauseating.
I'm sorry you're traditional and married.
Yeah sorry sorry sorry, I was married or not, because I say I was got to be.
What's your body count?
What's your body count on negative zero?
Here's the thing.
Right, men are allowed to have sexual boundaries, and no, you're allowed to, is it?
Yeah yeah yeah, but y'all just shave.
We're just joking.
We're fucking around.
We're joking just like.
How you fuck with us.
But I don't know if you're real, I don't know if you're being serious.
We're fucking with you.
How you fuck with us.
I don't.
I don't go down on women either, you don't.
I am like, oh what, I don't like you guys.
You're one of those fancy like, not a fan of damn.
You went from like a solid eight to like a 2.1 right now.
I was like I do it.
And then I was like, have you done it before?
And you're just like, nah, it's not good for me.
The last time you just had a bad experience, right?
No, not even the last time I did was during the Bush administration.
Oh, my god, it's like 2007, 2008.
You know, this is 207.
Wait, what's going on back there?
Next, going on nick, what's going on back there?
Oh okay wait, what's going on?
Uh, BUSH Administration.
Now look, let me let me here hear me out.
Okay, and the bushes?
Okay, you can come back.
Who knew the last 40 minutes of the podcast would be the funnest?
Now we're talking.
Now we're talking.
Now it's interesting.
This is late night, so come on now.
So i'm very much in favor.
I, if it's.
If sometimes you know, sometimes you don't always get there, but I want my girl to come first every time, so that so i'll do.
I'm not trying to like ignore her pleasure.
I care very much about her pleasure.
This guy back here is fucking agreeing with me.
That's another sexual battery of mine.
I don't like to do it, but I can't.
I can tell you each pussy.
You said, yes, he eats that.
Bro, you're going to get fucked up.
That's a plate.
That's a fucking court-martial, bro.
Alexis is the modern day example why Sodom and Gamora were destroying you.
I want to hear the rest of the story.
I want to hear that soon.
Yeah, I want to hear his.
I want to hear it.
I like complaining.
Okay, so I don't do, I'll do anything for love, but I won't be revival.
You should play that.
You should play that.
No, I don't do that.
That's your theme song.
But I want her to, like, it's, I want her to come multiple times, preferably before me.
Wait, so how do you do it?
Yeah, you can do that.
Well, it depends on the girl.
Do you like the girl?
How do you get her there?
Come on.
Oh, no, I'll never do that again.
Oh, you just quoted the song again.
Oh, I'll never do that again.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Maybe he just doesn't know how to do it.
Have a good experience.
Anyways, regrettably.
I did it a couple times.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm a fan of pussy.
Pussy's great.
It's not like I'm grossed out by pussy.
Yeah, your face is real red ever since we jumped into this convo.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm bashful.
I'm pushing.
You are cute.
You seem like you're in a way better mood and like you're not sick anymore.
You're so blue.
You have really nice blue eyes.
What the fuck?
I just told you I don't eat pussy and you guys.
We're going to show you today.
And your face is so.
Yeah, I still feel like absolute shit, though.
Everyone's been sick.
Everyone's been sick.
Is that why you're being so nice?
You're about to die.
I'm a nurse.
Actually, well, on one hand, I've been more sassy because I'm sick.
Really?
I feel like you've been really light tonight.
She doesn't like me.
No, wait.
It's not that I don't like it.
I want you to know.
No, it's not that I don't like you.
Please don't misunderstand me.
I want us all to see that we're morally sick.
And it's not just casting.
He's just actually judging one person.
And the cure is Jesus.
And, you know, he died for your sense, my sense, and he resurrected to make you born sick.
Wait, can we?
Wait, hold on.
Let's stick to the vulgar vulgar.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I'm sorry, but after hour, whatever.
Come on on four hours of price.
Is it okay if we can leave early?
Because I'm like, wait, we really need your interview.
Whatever after dark.
On the pussy eating topic.
No.
I'm going to leave.
Wait, no, no, no.
Wait, just stay.
I think we're almost finished.
Is this going to be the rest of the topic throughout the podcast?
No, we're going to move on pretty soon.
The look at the camera.
The look at the camera to make words over here.
I might have to leave early.
Wait.
She's nauseous.
I still have a fucking headache.
So I am going to try to wrap in like 15 minutes if you think you can power through.
Wait, do you want to leave?
Because they are just talking about the most vulnerable.
We're vulgar humans.
Sorry.
It's making you uncomfortable.
We're not trying to.
I'm not judging you guys.
It's just the nature of the topic.
It's just, I don't know.
Like, I'm like.
You knew.
Hold on.
I think it's making her feel sick.
I need to say something.
The nature of the topic.
You did all this shit.
Even if I did it, I'm a born-again Christian, and there's a conviction, and I'm not okay with this topic.
And I'm not judging anybody saying, like, I'm better than this topic.
You got to work on your constitution a little bit.
The nature of the topic.
You asked me.
You even said it was nauseous yourself.
Like, I don't know the podcast.
It's not yours.
I'm willing to still engage in the worldview.
And the reason I'm still willing to engage in the worldview is because, as I've told you before, your ineffective Protestant prattling bullshit doesn't work.
And what does work is meeting people where they're actually at, even if they're fucking DGs.
Andrew, see, that attitude is a little bit more.
I am a D-Gen.
I need you.
The way you said it.
I'm a born-again Chris.
Just shut up.
Your virtue signaling is sickening.
It's sickening.
Wait, that's the thing.
Meet them where they're at and actually give some pushback instead of this pathetic, oh, I just can't handle it.
Give me a break.
Did you ride like a hundred dicks and you're worried about them having a conversation about vagina?
It's ridiculous.
I think that's that.
We are 14 for once.
That's a lot of changes.
I thought that was funny.
That's funny.
I love you, Cheyenne.
That you're thinking that I did it.
You're my husband.
Cheyenne's cool.
You guys are cool.
I like that you guys don't judge us and call us like we're going to go to hell.
I feel like we're all friends.
Girl power.
Can we disclose that?
He's so broken down by this.
Love you.
I got to go on that.
Wait.
Sugar that easy night.
I love you.
In a relationship, though, would you not have like you wouldn't have a conversation about oral sex with a partner?
You wouldn't.
Of course, in a relationship, in a marriage, but we're talking about outside the context of marriage.
And I don't know what virtue signaling Andrew is talking about.
I'm feeling like the physical effects of it right now.
I can't.
We were just talking about personal experience.
So if the rest of the podcast is going to be about that, I mean, I'm not going to, you know, I might just head out here.
Are you?
I just don't want to ask.
I don't want to partake in the conversation.
It's just talking about the world.
I'll stay in the trenches while all the Christians flee again.
What if you just don't comment on it?
Is it still like a message?
I mean, I have to listen to the stuff that I didn't feel supporting.
We support.
Yeah, me too.
I'm an atheist.
And I listened to that.
We talked about it.
We've been talking about this topic for like 10 minutes.
And we're just joking around this.
Yeah, we're being so light-hearted about it.
We're not in the conversation.
We're not trying to make you feel uncomfortable.
I don't think you guys are making me feel uncomfortable.
That's not what I'm saying.
I don't think you guys are like intentionally.
No, I don't think that you guys are intentionally having this conversation to make me uncomfortable.
Well, you feel uncomfortable, nevertheless.
But I feel like sex is a gift from God.
It is unfortunate.
Sex is a gift from God in the sense of marriage.
Are we going to have another meta conversation about this?
Like, for me, it's interesting because I feel like I'm a feeler.
I feel everything.
Like I feel her and like I, um, yeah.
Yes.
Very much.
I was almost, when I saw you earlier, I was almost crying.
Oh, my God.
This meta conversation is so hot.
He's so sexy.
He's on cost medicine right now.
Let's talk about sex.
I get already a cost medicine too.
I get you.
Yeah, not to shame you or anything.
I'm not trying to make anyone feel ashamed.
So basically, I personally have to talk about that.
There's so much woman prattle.
Calm down.
One more time.
One more time.
So I personally don't feel convicted of leaving, but if she does, I feel like we should respect that.
But I personally don't feel convicted.
So, you know, because everyone's convictions are different.
So I feel like we shouldn't pressure her to stay.
Respect what?
If she wants to leave.
Oh, if she wants to leave.
Yeah, we're not telling her.
She shouldn't leave.
Absolutely allowed you.
No one's telling you not to leave.
Thank you.
But I feel, you know, Andrew just attacked me for wanting to leave.
I don't think he attacked you.
I got a little maybe a little bit.
I'm going to try to say this in the nicest way possible.
Like, you need to strengthen your constitution a little bit because you've been, and I'm not saying this to attack you.
You've been very whiny the entire episode.
Do you agree?
That I've been.
And I'm not saying that to attack you, but you've been kind of whiny.
I don't think I've been whiny.
You've had meta-conversations about the podcast and whining about certain things that people say.
And it's like a little whiny.
You know, like we're talking about.
We're just disagreeing.
We're talking about oral sex.
It's like because of dating podcasts, these things come up.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's not, it doesn't mean that we're bad people or we're against Christ.
We're being really light about it.
I think that it's just everyone should just probably look at where they're going and see if this is like their cup of tea and if they're going to be put in a uncomfortable situation, they should just not even go there because most of the time, most of the people in this table, they did want to talk about what you're feeling uncomfortable.
And you're making this whole like 10-20 minute about how you're not feeling comfortable about it.
But it's like, I had to sit here and literally be in a negative headspace because you're talking about God and like a whole lot.
I don't feel comfortable speaking about, and it doesn't mean that I don't believe it or anything.
I believe a lot of things that you're saying, but it's just not the right time and place.
Like, you're here, you know what the whatever podcast is.
Like, it's just, I just think that maybe for the next time, if you're going on a podcast, like understand what their like topics are and stuff.
And, like, you know, and you're such a nice girl, and I love it, but it's just like, damn, I can't tell you.
I was probably in a bad headspace for three hours because you wanted to talk about things that I didn't care about talking about religion here.
I wanted to have a good time.
And it was just like, I felt like it was just like you wanted to make your points and make your points about it.
And it was, it wasn't a little whiny.
But of course, I respect you and you're such a lovely girl.
But I think next time, just kind of read and just do your investigation as for where you're showing up.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't go to a house music club and if you only like rap, you know what I mean?
Because you're going to have a bad time.
So you just don't do that.
But this will give you experience for your next podcast.
Yeah.
You'll have a thicker skin.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And then you'll know how to handle it on your next one.
Just make sure to read the room too.
Yeah.
And, you know, I know that we only have like 15 minutes left, and I was just thinking, okay, if this is kind of the rest of the topic, I might have nothing to contribute to that.
And it's not making me comfortable.
So I just sit there and just wanted to kind of, you know, if I can leave early.
I also, you know, I have like an audience.
But we sat here the whole podcast while you said what you had to say, and we're just having like a light-hearted conversation at the end.
And I understand it might make you uncomfortable, but not everybody believes in God and Jesus.
I'm not saying I don't.
Just let her go.
But we'd let you say what you had to say.
You know what I mean?
I feel like I'm just good rule of thumb.
I'm tired.
You're going to be in the trenches doing this kind of thing.
Coomers be coomin, and DGNs are degenerate.
So you should expect that DJs are going to say DGen shit.
That's what they do.
Because they're fucking DGEN.
That's earned.
We're going to say that I'm going to come in.
We want to be ourselves and talk down because the thing is, some of us do want to engage.
And it is important that she's not part of culture.
God help us.
Do you want to DM her?
But it is.
Yeah, he does.
God help us all, but it is part of the culture.
We're fridges and we're enjoying this topic.
Yeah, and like if she's uncomfortable, and if they believe what they were preaching earlier, and then what she was preaching earlier, it's like no judgment zone.
She can't judge me for having my topic.
She's judging you.
I think she's also judging you.
I'm just saying she just wants to go.
So she's not wanting this conversation anymore.
It's not just the conversation.
Like, I have an illness and I'm tired.
I need to turn on.
Okay, let's have after dark, whatever, after dark.
I was just wondering if I would be able to leave early.
You can, but you know, if we have 15 minutes left and there's like I mean, I can see if there's any notes that I can direct towards you that you Twitter, pull it up.
Provide.
What about Instagram?
What about Instagram?
Just pull up the link.
Love everyone's Twitters and Instagrams.
Do not.
Bios.
I love it.
Read our bios.
Don't do that with me, please.
Okay.
Read Brittany Chris's bio.
I don't do that.
It's probably about plants.
We like plants.
Oh my gosh.
She always does that.
She's like my sister.
This one.
But she's not.
It's okay.
She literally means you're literally, you guys are each other.
I'm so hungry.
No, I don't know her.
I just met her.
I'm eating my stomach inside my music.
No.
I'm trying to find the notes, but who said something?
Somebody, I don't know if it was Cheyenne or Claire said something about unconditional love.
I might have said that about parents with like a killer child.
Oh, yeah.
I think that was something like that.
Read more bios.
That was good.
Okay.
I should post on the bottom.
Read more bios out.
I just want to see what they say.
Hold on, let's read this.
Andrew, do you want to read this?
Andrew?
Andrew, you've lost your witness.
Christ did not ask the woman at the well to rate herself.
He offered a new life.
Your words drip of pride, berating these sisters in Christ for Gotches, is so weak.
Well, I'll tell you what I need.
It's true.
What I need is for people who aren't complete weaklings to actually engage with the DGENS.
That's what I need.
What I don't need is these weak-willed, right, weaklings to come on and try to represent us in probably the worst time that I've ever seen for degeneracy ever.
Because they're concerned about all the same activities they themselves have done, concerned about hearing it again.
Like we don't know that degenerates are going to be degenerates.
So, you know what?
You can take that super chat and you can shove it up your ass because I'm right.
And we all know I'm right.
Andrew, I have never once heard you preach the gospel this entire podcast.
You know, if you believe that that's the same thing.
Why would you preach the gospel to people who have no understanding of what you're saying?
They only understand secular values.
So what you do is you break down their secular values and then you give them a replacement.
But you don't need the people.
Are you going to preach to these fucking degenerate?
They don't give a shit.
They don't care.
You can't reach them that way.
This is not the least.
You think you're better at this than me?
I've been doing this for years.
I'm highly skilled at it.
You know how many DMs I get from different people saying, holy shit, thank you.
I've never heard this before.
Why, your weak ass is about to run out of the room the last 15, the home stretch?
Weak.
I just want to say he doesn't represent what we believe.
You're damn right I don't represent ideology energy.
I'm kicking you off for Brian.
Get the fuck out of here.
No, I get what you're off.
But what is your religion?
Like, what do you believe in?
Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm an Orthodox Christian.
Okay.
I don't represent Orthodoxy.
I represent my own worldview, and I make secular arguments so I can break down secularist ideology.
What kind of Christian are you?
I'm sorry.
What kind of Christian are you?
I'm a Protestant.
I'm a Baptist.
And you're unorthodox.
Okay.
He's an Orthodox Christian.
Orthodox.
Okay.
All right, let's read some chats.
Okay, we got Tandaha.
Can somebody read this?
Do you want to read this one?
I can't see the computers.
What is that?
You want me to read it?
Yeah, go ahead.
Fuck.
Okay.
Doesn't relieve stress.
It's isolation.
34-year-old man with no relationship experience.
Oh, put it back on.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Always going to fuck to relieve the stress of isolation.
I found myself in self-harm trap.
Justify one.
It's a lot to the point.
Someone else.
Tandaha.
Thank you for the thing.
I tried.
Can we talk about like our worst gender experience?
Hold on.
I got it.
But I think this is why a lot of these men come to our OnlyFans for like some sort of like pleasure.
Destiny.
I don't know if this is the Destiny, Stephen Bonnell, a dating podcast.
What a joke.
Brian's entire MO is find contradictions in the women's life and air out and clown on them with his vitriolic community.
Andrew, why do you put logic aside for faith?
Andrew, do you think this is— Funny, if it were the destiny, then that would be his exact same MO as well as a debater would be to find contradictions in the worldview, like I do in his when I'm wrecking him in a debate.
That's funny.
Also, on top of that, to the previous chat, can you read the end of it real quick, Brian?
Andrew, why do you put logic aside for faith?
Well, okay, so logic also requires faith.
That's so funny.
This aside, everything requires faith.
In what?
Work.
Are you in the room right now?
In God?
Like, faith in what God?
No, how do you know you're in the room right now speaking?
It's a simple thing.
Do you just have faith that that's true?
It's a human show.
I'm just kidding.
I'm not in the crime.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
Yeah, that's right.
You don't know.
You just have faith.
I get it.
I doubt it's the, I don't think it's the actual destiny.
I believe you're all in my simulation right now, and I created all of you.
But, I mean, it isn't.
Do you have faith that that's true?
Sort of, yeah.
I was a Catholic.
I went to Catholics.
You don't want to even go there with me.
For the whole panel, but especially the OF ladies, God loves you.
He's just waiting for you to love him.
Thank you.
I love him.
I love you.
I appreciate it.
Subscribe.
I'll be busy tomorrow.
Can you read this one?
Who?
Do not ask me again.
Shout out from, no, you know, it's your turn.
Shout out from that Alabama area to pro-choice people.
What would it take you to change your mind on the issue?
I've noticed biological facts that don't convince you.
I'm an agonistic prolifer.
I can't see this thing.
I think that's life.
I'm preparing myself to be underwhelmed.
Thank you, Aaron Chambers.
Thank you, Aaron Chambers.
Appreciate it.
Well, pro-lifers.
Hang on, hang on.
This is like a heavy topic.
I said hashtag.
Hashtag.
Andrew, we love you.
I said that, but I said a little bit backwards.
I said, Andrew, I love you.
Hashtag.
But I'm going to say hashtag I love you.
Or whatever.
Hashtag.
I can almost guarantee you, by the way, that that was not the real destiny.
I don't think that you would ever send in that he loves you?
Asking, no, no, no.
The one before, asking about, you know, looking for contradictions in a person's worldview.
That's kind of what his MO is.
So, but that aside to the pro-life question, what is your guys' view on pro-life, pro-choice?
I think that's what he's getting at first.
You want to start, Brie?
What the fuck, dude?
What's your view?
I mean, that's what it's always been.
I think that, like, we should be allowed to abort if we have to.
Like, if we're in a situation where we cannot have that child, I think that we should be allowed to abort it.
Okay, next.
As a nurse who's actually held babies at 22 weeks, I feel like we're not educated on what a fetus looks like at certain weeks because me and my uneducated mind set back in the day maybe would think that that wasn't a life.
So I believe that if you're going to have an abortion, you better have an abortion very early on.
I don't agree.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I feel like people need to educate themselves because I've actually seen what life looks like at certain ages because that's what I did for a living.
And I feel like people don't understand or know it.
So if you actually knew what your baby looked like at this many weeks, I feel like a lot of you, a lot of women in general would never have an abortion.
So I, at this age in my life, I don't, you, I don't know.
You're pro-life, essentially.
You should sure have a fucking abortion.
Are you kidding me?
I'm pro-life up to a certain amount of weeks.
Like if it was maybe like four to six weeks, okay, do that.
But after that, I feel like people don't understand.
What if you got, like, I'm not going to say the word, but this is a whole topic.
Like, it's a lot.
Yeah, it's a big problem.
Don't go there with me.
Wait, really quick, going around the table.
Who here's on birth control?
Starting with you?
Oh.
You are.
I'm not.
Oh, I'm not.
No.
I was on it for six years, but I got off a few years ago.
Never was on it.
Never been on it.
Nope.
These microphones.
I'm on it.
Congrats.
I guess.
It expired.
That's a mean.
IUD.
There's actually a lot of bad things about it.
Shouldn't be wearing it.
Yep.
True.
You got cancer later in life.
I want somebody on it.
Okay, I'm trying to think what we had to.
Oh, I think we saw something on one of your profiles.
It says that.
It says you have a natural body, your natural body what?
My body's natural.
So I only had a breast lift, and like I had really big boobs, and I had them reduced and lifted, and my body's natural.
The rest of it.
No BBL?
No.
No, any lipo, anything on the belly?
Lip filler?
Oh, I've had my lips.
That's not natural.
Is your nose natural?
My nose is natural.
Dude, you have a cute nose.
Yeah, but when they say body, the body's not really the face.
What?
10 out of 10, those.
Those?
You guys know my nose.
Why are you so nice now?
I'm going to show my shirt.
Why are you being so nice?
I feel like it's not straight.
I know, it's natural.
Really?
I do like it.
I mean, I can recognize.
Because I got a big fucking nose right now.
I didn't even notice it until you just said it.
I hyper-focused.
They're laughing because they've been looking at my side profile.
Oh, yeah.
We're looking at you straight on.
I know.
I know.
Straight on.
And you're probably looking at mine, sir, and you're like, what's all that metal in your face, right?
That's what usually.
I wish you guys are like, why do you have some metal in your face?
You don't need that.
She's got great nose genetics.
I'll say that.
She's got great nose genetics.
Do you want to have my kid?
Genetics?
Okay.
I will have your kid.
Let's blast through those.
We got to blast through the tweets.
But wait, you're not natural then if you've had like lip filler and breast augmentation.
I never said you said body.
Like it depends what I mean, like by natural.
I've had my breast.
I'm very honest.
Well, I'll argue with who you guys are.
I have a little Botox on my lips.
We can argue next time.
I'll pull up.
Go on my threads.
Instagram threads where I'm going to be able to do it.
Definitely don't.
This is Alexis.
We're not even going to have her read it.
Just blast through all of them so we can see how traditional she is.
We are going to be able to do that.
Okay, cool.
Next.
Not bad.
Had a cop.
Oh, my God.
What?
I've learned that.
Darabella all they care about is who's Darab is Is that you?
No, that's Dara.
That's me.
That's Dira.
All men care about is sex?
Please don't pull up mine, whatever you do.
Yeah, I agree.
Do you think men only want to be a little bit more?
No, no, no.
We care about food.
They care about sex.
Yeah.
They're satisfied.
Do you think somebody read that, please?
Kick Yoko immediately.
Ass eater is tough.
No, you want to go?
Sorry.
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry.
I realize you're reading it.
My bad.
Oh, no.
But nasty.
I may want to smell the redhead's chair.
These women are what's wrong with the world.
Zero accountability.
And this is why men are checking.
Oh, my God.
She reads like putting off, man.
I didn't do that earlier.
I didn't do that earlier.
Oh, my God.
I didn't do that earlier.
There's this meme.
Hey, listen, man.
There's this meme where girls will post that they're attracted to like, they're sapiosexuals and they're attracted to intelligent men, but the men they end up dating are the types of men who read the fight cover with their finger over the fucking squinty.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Thank you, Brone.
Say whatever you're asking.
Did you say your breast reduction?
Did your breast reduction?
Wait, wait, wait.
Go back to the, what was the year?
That's what Heartbreak does to you.
I was trying to make a point.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
Pull up the tweet again.
Pull up the first one from her.
All they care about.
So on this.
Okay, but could it be that the men that all they want from you is sex, could it be that it's because that's all you have to offer?
No, I don't think that's all I have to offer.
Do you have a bitch?
Dera.
What?
I'm just kidding.
No.
Like a lot of women make that complaint.
No, man, they just want sex.
I want massages.
I was referring to somebody.
I was kind of seeing somebody in the adult industry where we don't both born.
And this is like literally the argument.
I just got like tweeting it, and I was in an emotional state, and I was angry.
And we literally do the same thing for a living, but it's like a double standard and it's the same shit.
And I don't feel like having sex.
So it was like a conversation.
Like, I felt like I could say no.
And it was all you were just like, yeah, whatever.
Okay, all right.
Let's pull up the next one.
Let's get through these.
Can you read it?
Just read it.
I'm unhinged this year.
That's what heartbreak does to you.
Never be a dumbbell.
No, put it in her work.
I wanted to put it in.
I'm unhinged this year.
That's what heartbreak does to you.
Never be a dumb girl for a man.
Never make changes for somebody who's not ready to make changes for you as well.
I'm healing.
I'm happy.
Life is really good.
I would have read it better, but okay.
Next.
Got cheated on there.
I just want one man.
No, no, no.
Just you read it.
I just want one man, one dick that is mine.
We can create fire content together and focus together.
Until I find a man who's loyal, I'm going to stay dating myself.
I just prefer to be an old-fashioned relationship because I'm loyal.
Well, hold on.
Old-fashioned relationship sounds a little bit like you're saying you're kind of traditional and you want an older person.
Listen, I haven't done.
Okay, I got heartbroken last year.
I only made like some kind of content, and then last year I got my heart wrecked.
And I decided, you know what?
Fuck men, and I'm going to just go fuck everyone.
And that's what I did, and that's what I'm doing right now.
And I got six years on and off got me nothing.
So I'm unhinged.
Here you go.
And I just want to put some porn stars on and press the podcast.
Do it.
What?
What?
Yes.
Put it.
Wait, next one?
Next one.
Let's go.
Oh, here we go.
It's another podcast.
Plenty balls.
Plenty balls.
Actually, yeah, don't put him on here.
We're down.
What did I say?
Well, we'll react to it next time.
How about that?
Sure.
Next time you come on the plane.
Next time I come all the way across the country.
Oh, yeah, you're in Brooklyn.
You want her to prepare to come all over Gunni?
What?
No, not my type.
Excuse me.
Also.
Wait, what now?
React to what?
Wait, okay, here.
You got this chat.
Curtis Leon, can you read this one?
Who?
Me?
Okay.
Brian, you're serving 25 years in prison, but the shot caller of a gang says you're his priority.
Newsome says he'll part.
Oh, property.
Newsome says he'll pardon you if you OnlyFans with Layla, but you have to live in life of AIDS and herpes.
Oh, that's so.
Terry Bill.
Terrible.
Terrible.
Sorry to replay.
I mean, luckily, there's great interventions for HIV now.
I'm going to.
25 years and I have to.
Yeah, I'm going to.
Okay.
Bro, this is too easy.
Yeah, I'm going to take it.
I guess I have to get with Layla.
I'm getting with Layla over being holding some dude's pocket and fucking I'm taking Layla.
You give me these terrible scenarios.
Layla.
Okay, I think we're all caught up on everything, I believe.
There's so many notes I wasn't able to get to, but I think everyone's tired.
I think I wouldn't do political stuff.
I have a five-hour drive back.
Where do you live?
Five-hour Manteca stock here.
Stockton?
You're from Stockton?
I'm from Stockton.
I was born in the Bay Area.
She's from the Mean Streets.
Stockton, California.
I like your smiley piercing.
Thank you.
No, I was born in Hayward, so right next to Oakland.
And then my mom bought a house in Mantica.
Dope.
That's so cool.
I got a 10-minute drive.
I have a question.
Did that hurt?
Oh, my God.
Does it?
She's still.
It does.
It's father's face.
I'm sorry.
It's all good.
Wait, Brian.
She has us up to piercing.
Do you think she's gay?
I'm a Mexican.
Wait, no, I'm gay.
Sorry, sorry.
No, never mind.
It's been like episode.
She said her body count is like five or six.
Never mind.
That's okay.
Never mind.
No, there's people.
You know, like girls house ethos are like other plants.
You guys.
I'll eat coochie.
Emily's not a second lip.
What the fuck?
What was she asked?
My best friend.
What?
Ask me first.
Well, okay.
For everyone's sake, I think.
I think.
I have a bunch of stuff from Cheyenne.
Cheyenne, I don't know if you want to do a round two after this brutal podcast you've got on the word.
No, she doesn't have tweets.
But she had a lot of notes that we didn't weren't able to get to.
Are you down for round two or anything?
Right now?
What?
Hold on.
I don't do that on the first day.
Oh, my God.
No, I'm talking like have you come back on.
Only one round.
Yeah, I would love that.
I'm actually, I wanted to say this.
I'm moving back to Ohio tomorrow with my mom.
And it's your birthday.
And it's just your birthday.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Oh, Pisces.
Wait, you're a Pisces?
Oh, I hate Pisces.
What's your son?
What's your son?
He's an Aquarius or Sagittarius for sure.
I feel like you're a cancer.
Wait, when's your birthday?
Stop flirting with him.
When's your birthday?
I flirt with everyone.
I'm an Aquarius.
What is Aries?
Have you a cancer?
When's your birthday?
March 31st.
My death is a bad person.
He's an Aquarius.
March 10th.
Oh, September 20th.
He's either an Aquarius or Sagittarius for sure.
I'm a Sagittarius.
What's your birthday?
Well, because I'm thinking of it.
What's your birthday?
I want to know your birthday.
What's your birthday?
I'm not saying it on camera.
I'm there and tell me the show.
Okay.
Oh, because you're getting too happy.
Wiping this off.
You'll be back, though, right?
You'll be back.
I have a feeling I'm going to be back because I'm writing my first book.
Do you want Andrew to be on that?
I actually really like Andrew Tate.
No.
No.
I don't like that just as a personality.
I like this one.
Andrew too, yeah.
Why is he not here?
How's your mic facing down?
He's an AI person.
Okay, here.
Let's see.
We'll have you back in the middle.
Why aren't you here now?
We'll have you back.
He looks like an AI.
I'll have you back again if you want.
I wish you were here in person.
I feel like you'd be so much more fun in person.
He's an AI person.
He is an AI.
He looks like one.
I know.
You want to punch me.
He talks like one, too.
Where's that background?
Is that your house?
I don't want to punch you.
Where are you?
Where are you right now?
Sometimes if you're a walker.
They're so nice to be in so we can put a picture.
Did he just say he doesn't want to punch me in the future?
No, this was like a fancy.
Yeah, because I said, I was like, I know.
Everyone wants to punch me in the face.
I was like, I don't want to punch you.
People were like, I want him to be here.
You're going to say that at the beginning was scary.
I was like, oh, my God.
I'm sorry.
It's not bad.
Now we know what he likes to talk about.
I've been on Russian Fit.
This whole time.
I'm D on V twice.
Don't be D on V. P-on-V.
Oh, my God.
Seriously, can we get him to be here in person, friends?
Can we suck him through the screen and put him in the front of me for all this?
I'll show you.
Oh, calm down, lady.
Calm down.
I'm there or you're not.
No, you need to be sitting at the head of the table being like, they're going to fly me out of my body.
Shooting off the shots.
Come on.
Oh.
Let's go.
I'm down for that.
Just not.
I like this guy.
Get him out here right now.
Put him in front of us in front of the table.
We'll make it happen.
We'll get you guys back in person.
Andrew will be here.
I like this guy.
Yeah, Andrew come back.
You're fucking fun.
You're fine.
Hug him.
Oh, y'all.
It was a good.
I like this guy, though.
What's your name, Gonzo?
He's got a boyfriend.
He's got.
Oh, sorry, girlfriend.
Sorry.
Oh, my God.
Wait, is it Gonzo?
Gustavo.
Oh, sorry.
It's not Rizzo.
Oh, wait, you call him Spencer.
That's his real name.
Wait, just you can be honest.
I talked about while I was asking you, his name's SpongeBob.
So, Claire, did you have a good time on the podcast?
Well, thank you for having me.
Oh, my God.
That was great.
It was a no.
Yeah, just come back.
I'm going to rap.
I kind of missed my opportunity to kick her off, though.
Aw, wow.
Andrew Bader, quick.
Bader, quick.
I mean, I stand by my earlier words.
I felt like I led up to that.
It was a great throw off the whole nine yards.
I feel like you failed me, Brian.
You should have got my back on this.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Can I redeem myself with Andrew?
Do it again.
This is the fuck off this show.
You're weak.
This is too confusing.
You're a weak need, and you suck.
So that's my opinion.
Okay.
I have more respect for the girls on the, from my perspective, the right side of the table, because I at least felt like they were trying to be fucking honest.
He's just trying to trigger.
Let them.
They're the right side because we're in very good.
Okay, okay.
I'm not going to.
Okay, I'm being a little goblin.
I'm being gobbled.
I'm really totally sure, but I have a question.
Is a little bit goblin.
I'm being a goblin.
I should have taken the opportunity, but now me and her, Claire, we've reconciled.
Let's just make fights.
We're best friends now.
We're best friends.
It would be too goblin-y to just try to bait a cobbler.
No, I'm just kidding.
No.
I need some.
I want to pick her up and hug her.
And I actually like, I want to throw her.
I try to avoid her.
I avoid.
She's a very light human and she's beautiful.
I try to avoid doing the golves.
I avoid trying to kiss people off.
I just want to throw up in the air.
I should have.
Maybe I should have, but okay.
All right.
So, okay, guys, we're going to wrap up the show.
I want to just say that, I don't know if you guys can tell from my voice or what I said at the beginning.
Guys, I'm sick.
I want to give a big thank you to Andrew for coming in and helping me with tonight's show.
Yeah, we wish you were here in flesh.
I feel like one of you feel like crap, and I would have not been able to get through this show without having Andrew to kind of lean on and have him kind of take over.
Happy to be here.
It was very nice to meet all of you.
I hope you enjoyed it.
You don't take any of the kind of back and forth personally.
I don't.
That's my job: to put pushback on different ideologies.
I have no ill will towards you whatsoever, and it was a pleasure to meet all of you.
I wish you were here in Flesh.
Except for the girl in the middle.
But other than her, everybody else was here.
He looks very sorry.
Yeah, stop triggering her.
We're after hours.
Come on, Andy.
But no, thank you, Andrew.
I really appreciate it because I felt like absolute shit today, and it would have been a mess for me to have done this by myself.
So I'm very grateful that you were able to do a video call and thank you.
And also, if I was a little tilted at the beginning of the show, normally I'm a little more chipper.
I know your favorite topic.
Really?
A little more chipper.
I don't know.
I thought you were sick.
Yeah, we know it's a little bit of a drink.
I feel like crap.
So hold on.
Let me just say my thing.
Normally, I'm a little more chipper, but I feel like crap right now.
So, if I was ever kind of if I dug into you guys at all, you really didn't.
It's all love.
We expected worse from you, that's for sure.
Okay, you did really good.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Okay, you are cute.
I'd smash.
I need to make a sign, though.
Holy shit.
Just so you know, he did call me earlier, so I know for sure he's telling the truth.
He's been feeling miserable.
So, I thought you did a good job, though, Brian.
Yeah, I didn't sleep at all.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
Wait, you did really well.
What did you say before, though?
I'd smash.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, my dear.
Thank you, my dear.
You all said that.
We already know your stance.
You weren't deep enough.
Oh, okay.
Oh, well, I appreciate it.
We already know your stance.
I appreciate the offer, my dear, but I must politely turn you down because I just can't date a woman who's no, we get it.
She didn't say date.
She said smash.
Who's had carnal knowledge?
I know, I said smash.
I said smash, not date.
Okay, I wouldn't even.
Here's the crazy thing.
How would you know if we just what if we just met in a dark alley?
Why would you even know?
Why would you be in a dark alley?
This chick's a predator, actually.
Wait, you know what I mean?
No.
So you go for virgins?
He doesn't like virgins.
Yeah, what do you mean?
No, he said he doesn't like that.
You virgin.
He's just predator.
Preference.
I mean, I'll hold on.
Let me answer her question.
Brian, Brian, it's a trap.
Wait, what's the trap?
His preference.
It's a trap.
I mean, it's kind of weird.
Trap.
You know it's a trap.
No, I wouldn't.
If you had to sleep with one woman on this panel, who would you sleep with?
He'd sleep with.
I would tell him.
There we go.
I'd say her.
Why are you pointing?
No, no, Cheyenne.
Cheyenne or Claire?
No.
He would have done the middle girl.
I don't even know.
What the fuck?
A lot of tension there.
No, I think you like.
A lot of tension.
Look at that.
I think you like Cheyenne.
Look at him.
Her.
She's actually, Cheyenne's a pleasant person.
She's very attractive, but because of her past indiscretions, unfortunately.
Then you would pick.
I don't think.
So if you had to choose, choose.
I don't know.
Oh, you picked.
You'd pick him.
Yes.
Gustavo, yes.
No, you pick Andrew.
That's who it is.
You guys are too much.
You're too much.
You know what?
Okay, all right.
Let's not enough for too much.
I love you so much.
I know.
No facts.
I'd kiss you, but you're sick.
He's like, oh, I can't find it.
Brittany, I'm taking it.
I had the worst headache the first hour of the freaking show.
It was so bad.
I took three Tylenols and it was so bad.
Oh, my God.
Who the hell?
You don't have to care to ask.
All right.
Okay, guys.
Thank you again to Andrew.
Thank you again to the panel.
Love you, Andrew.
Thanks, Andrew.
Hope to see you in France.
Let me see if I can just raid somebody on Twitch really quick.
One sec, guys.
But to answer your question, I would.
This is going to take us forever to get to this.
No, I'm almost.
I'm just trying to raid somebody on Twitch.
I would.
Yes, sir.
I don't.
She doesn't.
No, she doesn't have to be a virgin, but it's preferable.
The lower the body count, the better.
Who's?
Oh, there's nobody.
Okay, I'm not going to bother with Twitch.
All right.
Okay, guys.
Hold on.
Let me do my outro.
All right, guys.
Last call.
Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
We're going to be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
I'm hoping I don't.
I'm hoping I'm better by then.
If not, I might.
I don't know.
We'll have to see.
But any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
If you can make it to Santa Barbara, thank you to the panel.
You guys were wonderful.
Appreciate it.
07's in the chat.
07's in the chat.
All right.
Good night, guys.
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