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Sept. 25, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Obese Girl Would NOT Date Obese Man?! PLUS SIZE BBW PANEL! | Dating Talk #103

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Without further ado, we're going to have the lovely guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hi, I'm Gabby Faye.
I'm 27 years old.
I'm a model, singer-songwriter, and TikToker.
And for the modeling, do you, what are some of the companies you work for?
I looked on your Instagram and you've worked for some like very legitimate, like big brand companies.
Yeah, so I've worked a bunch.
I've worked for Nike, Calvin Klein, Youth to the People, Tommy Hill Figure, Target, TJ Maxx, Swimsuits for All, Fruit of the Loom, Lane Bryant, and a few others.
I can't think of them right now, but yeah, just a lot of major brands.
That's wild.
How long have you been modeling for?
Probably the past eight years.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And so are you like, I'm trying to, who's like the, are you like the Heidi Klum of plus size models?
Because that's a lot of big brands.
Yeah, I know, right?
I'm like really grateful that I got to work with so many awesome brands.
But I wouldn't say Heidi Klume yet.
Hopefully one of these days I'll get up there, you know?
I feel like those girls, like my goal would be like to, because I've walked New York Fashion Week every year for the past eight years, but I want to do like Walk for Milan Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week, London Fashion Week.
When they stop being fat phobic, that'll happen.
So like right now, I'm just kind of doing what I can do.
Wait, who's they?
Which is the London Fashion Week there?
Yeah, you don't really see plus size.
You're not down with the plus size women yet?
Not really, not yet.
Is it mostly just a U.S. thing so far?
I think so.
I think U.S. is just more progressing in plus-size modeling than Europe right now.
Have you done any gigs internationally outside of the U.S.?
Yes.
I flew out to Montreal and they only speak French.
I didn't realize that.
And so I'm on set.
Everybody's picking and pulling apart from my outfit, my hair, my makeup, and they're only speaking French.
So I'm like trying to figure out what they're saying.
And I'm also learning French too, but like not that great.
That was for Youth to the People as a skincare brand.
It was really a cool experience.
I felt like Hillary Dutton.
No, I felt like Liz McGuire in the Liz McGuire movie where she's like in Italy and like everybody's speaking a different language on set.
That's how it was pretty cool.
Okay, awesome.
Awesome.
What about you?
Hi, my name's Misty.
I'm going to be 28 forever.
And I'm also a model and I'm an actor.
Wait, what do you mean 28 forever?
28 forever.
Take it how you want to take it.
So are you actually 28 or?
Forever.
She's 28 forever.
So you're like 55.
Okay.
I'm 28 forever.
28.
Okay, maybe we'll get into that later.
What about you?
Hi, I'm Jasmine and I am 25 and I work in marketing, specializing in social media.
Most likely, I focus more on the non-profit sector.
Gotcha.
Madison, if you want to intro yourself.
Hello, my name is Madison.
I'm 18 years old.
I currently work for the whatever podcast.
I'm a host at a bar as well as a student in college.
I go to Santa Barbara City College and I'm studying business and accounting.
Can you turn your head that way just so they can see your hat?
So wait, your last name is what?
Vu.
So you're Madison Vu.
Yeah.
The hat she's wearing, it's from Dragon Ball Z. There was a character called Majin Bu.
So it's interesting because now you're Madison Vu.
Maybe you're Madison.
I don't know what character.
I don't even know Dragon Ball Z. Maybe we'll.
Okay, well, I'll show you a photo later.
Okay.
And by the way, guys, we were planning on having two other people here at the panel, but they no-showed.
It is what it is.
It would have been nice if they said, hey, we can't make it.
But it was just a straight-up no-show.
So smaller, more intimate panel tonight, but we have a lot to react to.
So we're going to go around the table once more.
So what is your current relationship status?
So are you single?
Are you in a relationship?
Are you in the talking stage?
Are you in a situationship?
Are you in a sex cult, polycule?
Are you part of a harem?
Whatever it may be.
So also, if you're single, how long have you been single?
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
Go ahead.
So I'm single.
I've been single for years.
I can't even remember the last time I was in a serious relationship, but I've been like, you know, obviously I have a roster of men that I date from time to time.
Maybe I'll do like a one-month, three-month stint.
Sorry, Nick, it's muted.
The audio.
Sorry, continue.
Oh, it's okay.
So I've been dating for the past few years, but I haven't been in a serious relationship for a few years.
So I would say just single and dating and yeah, trying to find love.
Gotcha.
Let me just, yo, FTG, thank you very much for the, for some reason our audio was muted there, but thank you very much for the gifted memberships.
So single for a very long time.
Yeah.
When was your last relationship?
Oh, there it is.
I don't know what happened.
FTG, thank you very much for the gifted 50 memberships.
Single.
Oh, gosh.
I feel like maybe it's been about five, six years, something like that.
Gotcha.
And you said, what was your longest relationship?
I would say two years.
Two years.
Got it.
Okay.
you said you've been single for about five years has there been there's been like maybe a thing Okay.
I don't count like I don't count like a month here, a couple months there.
I don't really.
Like situationship type shit.
Yeah, I guess you could say that.
Yeah, so.
Gotcha.
Okay.
What about you?
I am currently single.
I've been single for a few years as well.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
Longest relationship.
I think it was probably about five, seven years on and off.
On and off again, five to seven years.
How many times was it on and off?
Like a lot.
It turned into long distance.
It started like good and then it turned into long distance.
And so long distance, some people have trouble with fidelity.
Fidelity.
You hear stories of people who are in long distance, or sorry, not long distance.
Well, it was long distance, but in on again, off again relationships.
And it can range anywhere from, oh, we were on again, off again a couple times to like people breaking up every week.
No, it wasn't.
Was it like that?
No, it was more like, I mean, like, I really, he was my first love, and I'm pretty sure I was his.
And then when I moved, I think it probably broke his heart.
So he went rogue.
And so it was just like continual not trust.
Like I'd go there for Christmas, he'd come visit me.
But like, yeah, I mean.
Okay.
So like you broke up, how many times do you think?
You know, when you're young like that, it's kind of, you're toxic.
So you don't, I don't know that I can count that.
Just like it's over.
And then, babe, like, why didn't you call me?
So I've, you know, come a long way.
Gotcha.
How old were you when we first, I was like 16.
Okay.
16.
We were first loves.
Good times.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot.
I was toxic.
What about you?
Yeah, so I've been, I am single.
I've been single for 11 years.
The last time I had a relationship, I was 14.
And my longest relationship was six months.
And it was with my first boyfriend when I was 13.
Okay, and in your pre-show notes to us, you said that you are, you consider yourself religious?
Yes.
Yes, I do have a relationship with God.
And I exercise my faith in a lot.
So that definitely plays a factor in dating.
Gotcha.
And so are you, what's your situation?
Like right now, like dating.
Well, yeah, you said, like, hold on.
Sorry.
It's been a shit show before the show, guys, because a couple people bailed.
In your pre-show information, you said that you are waiting until marriage to have sex.
Is that correct?
Yeah, to have sex, yes.
I'm waiting until marriage.
Okay.
But I am willing to date now.
Gotcha.
Before marriage.
Okay.
Yeah.
With the goal to get married.
Okay, gotcha.
But so you've never been intimate with a guy?
Never.
I'm a virgin.
Okay.
Gotcha.
And I've been single for 11 years and I haven't even been pursued.
So I've never been even, I've never been asked out within 11 years.
Within 11 years?
11 years, yeah.
Usually, when I was, okay, so I've always been big my whole life, except for when I was a little kid.
The first time that I lost a lot of weight, I was 13.
And that was when I got a lot of attention from guys.
It was a whole world, like a whole different world for me.
And that's when I had my first boyfriend.
And then when he broke my heart and, you know, we did it for six months, I ended up hoeing around and I had like a bunch of boyfriends back to back.
A lot of drama.
But then when I gained weight, like all of that kind of left.
And when I was in high school and I was 16, I lost like weight again.
And that's when I noticed that guys would become interested in me.
And then once I gained weight, there's like no game.
So yeah, that's kind of how it's been right now.
Got it.
Okay.
Madison, your situation.
I'm in a lovely relationship for about a year now, a little over a year.
This is my longest relationship.
Are you engaged?
No, it's just a promise.
It's a promise.
What is the promise for?
To be with each other forever.
I hear that a lot.
Okay.
Never mind.
Let me keep my thoughts to myself.
A lot of people don't really wear promise rings anymore.
So it's cool to see you wear one.
Wait, no, actually, just go ahead.
Yeah, I want to hear what you had to say.
Well, okay, because like I, several people that I know that have done the promise ring thing, I think it's sweet when they tell me that, but then they end up breaking up.
And then it's like, well, how much that promise really mean?
I feel like the real promise is signing your name on a marriage certificate where you can't just easily walk away and then leave me with like a youth.
That's very, very true.
And eventually we plan on getting away from you.
Oh, yeah, what's the difference between a promise ring and engagement?
FDG, thank you very much.
I think it's for a lot of people who just can't get married yet or feel like they're too young to get married or if anything other else is like going on in their lives where they feel like they shouldn't be married at the moment.
Like promise rings kind of solidify it into getting married in the future, hopefully.
FDG, thank you so much for the gifted 50 memberships.
I think that gets us over to the 5,000 mark.
So thank you very much.
I think we've unlocked the maximum emotes.
So thank you very much, FDG, a true Giga Chad.
Going back to you really quick in your pre-show notes, so you said that you got into a fight because of your first breakup when you were very young.
You said you were dating a guy at 13.
You got arrested.
What happened?
Yes, let me explain.
So I had my first boyfriend when I was 13.
We dated for six months.
He broke up with me and I was very heartbroken.
And I had a lot of game.
Like I had a lot of, I really don't know what other word to use it than game, but I had a lot of guys like wanting to be with me and all that stuff.
And one of my best friends at the time, she had an off and on again boyfriend.
And back then we would send notes.
This was in middle school.
And he sent me notes saying that he wants to be with me.
And I was like, you're literally like on and off again with my best friend.
I was like, that's not going to happen.
So I gave the note to my best friend and she was very upset.
And in the note, it said everything, his handwriting and everything, that he wants to be with me and stuff.
And she basically ended up talking to him.
And he ended up like telling her lies that I'm the one who wrote the notes.
And that's not the case.
And she basically just wanted to fight me because she was upset that the man that she loved or boy that she loved because we were middle school liked me.
And we ended up like, I ended up going to the counselors, talked to, you know, I was a goodie girl, no, nerd, all that stuff.
I'm like, I'm not going to fight.
You're my best friend.
We're not going to do this.
So I talked to the counselor at school.
She literally brought both of us in a room.
We talked it out.
And leaving that room, she literally told me, she's like, hey, Jasmine, I know we work things out, but don't let anyone know.
And I was like, I was kind of caught off guard.
I was like, okay, whatever.
I'm going to move on.
And then later on, they told me we were in recess or, I guess, lunchtime.
They told me to go.
This girl told me to go somewhere and I followed her.
And she was there gathered with so many people to fight me.
And we kind of fought.
And I see that as self-defense.
I didn't want to fight.
And I got arrested because it was such an intense fight.
Like she arranged everything.
Everyone was even the nerdy people that don't care about fights, they were right there.
So I couldn't get out of it.
We fought.
I got arrested.
She got arrested for disordinary conduct.
We got suspended for three days.
I had court homework.
And just, I just had a lot of when you have a lot of boys coming after you, there are certain girls that hate on you.
And another interesting tea, I'm not sure if you guys know her, but her name is Jeleno Hera.
She's a very, very successful influencer model.
She also went to my middle school and she also had a lot of guys after her.
So those three days that I was suspended, they also jumped her.
So if you're a girl who a lot of guys like, they're going to come after you and like fight and do all that stuff.
So, you know, when I did gain weight and like I say my game left, it was a little bit relieved because I didn't have that drama.
Yeah.
I didn't have the drama from the girls anymore.
Wait, so what were you arrested for?
So I was arrested.
What were you judged for?
I was arrested for disordinary conduct.
Did you go to Juvie or they just didn't take me?
I was with the cop and she told me that she was like, you have great records.
You have one of the highest GPAs.
This is unlike you.
And I was like, yeah, that was self-defense.
And she was like, so I'm not going to take you, but I should, but I'm not going to take you because of your good records.
So I'm, but I'm still going to have a record, like an arrest record on your account and stuff like that.
But she basically told me that she could have taken me, but she had a choice to take me or not.
She decided not to take me.
She gave me a warning, basically.
Yeah, she gave me a warning.
But even after that fight, she did say that if I get in another fight on campus ground, that I will definitely be arrested and go.
And I got into two other fights, but outside of campus, so it didn't count.
So did you fuck her up or what?
Was it who won the fight?
So that's an interesting question.
I honestly think, okay, so let me explain.
So she was here.
I was here.
She ended up hitting me first.
So I fought.
And then everyone was coming towards us.
And we both of us tripped.
We fell.
Everyone else fell.
So there was a bunch of other people on the ground.
So when the teachers came to see who was fighting, they literally picked up people from the hairs.
They suspended other people too because they picked up one of my friends from her with her hair.
She started cursing at the teacher.
Teacher got mad.
That girl got suspended too.
So it was literally like everyone was on the floor.
Like everyone was sorry to like, you know, it was just a disaster.
And then me and her were basically on the floor.
And then I was trying to get on top for her and I was trying to hit her.
And I did get some hits in.
And that's when the teacher knew who was the one that was fighting because I still tried to fight.
Okay.
Fat bastard donated $100.
Get in my belly.
I want my baby back, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, baby.
I want my baby back, baby, back, baby.
Yes, baby, back rips.
Rips.
Chili's baby back ribs.
What's up, Nick?
I said, when do you get a chance to check this?
Yeah, but Nick, don't interrupt the TTS, man.
Come on.
All right.
Okay, so, sorry.
Single, single, single.
We'll come in.
But come on, there's some shade.
There's some guy.
You guys, there's, come on, there's some guys in the picture, right?
Come on.
I told you I had a roster, but no one I'm taking seriously right now.
You got a roster.
Yeah.
When you say roster, though, what does that mean?
It means that there are men that I am entertaining that I allow to entertain me for the time being until someone is seriously pursuing me and putting in that effort and taking me on dates and planning dates and things like that.
They stay on the roster and like the one who's putting more effort, they get bumped to like number one.
And the one who's putting less effort, they, you know, bump to they fall off.
And then sometimes I have to get rid of my whole roster and start from new, start from scratch.
And, you know, it's exhausting, but it's work.
So currently, and do you have a roster too?
I don't know that I would call it that.
I look at it slightly different, but they'll just kind of pretty.
Is their bench?
I mean, I don't even think about it like that, right?
Like, I won't, like, keep them if I'm not going to pursue them for a long-term relationship.
Okay.
So, like, if I've already found that this is not working, they're going to fall off quickly.
I'm just going to keep them to entertain them.
Okay.
What would you call it then?
What do you call it?
I mean, like, it's, I'm either dating them or I'm not dating them.
Like, we're either talking and we're not talking.
Do you have like a main piece kind of and some side piece?
I have some men who are attempting to show what they have to persuade me to say yes or no.
Okay.
But I mean, yeah, that's probably what it is.
And when one of them makes sense, then I will be going forward with that.
Gotcha.
And I mean, you already told us, but nothing.
Like, you've got, it's been 11 years.
Come on, some guy.
I can explain a little bit more.
So let me first, I'll come back to that really quick.
But so you have a roster.
What's the roster looking like?
You got how many dudes are on the roster?
Hold on.
Oh, no.
Don't make her count.
I had to, because, you know, it's a new week.
It's a new day.
I know.
I got you.
We're doing some math here.
I would say safe numbers five.
Safe numbers five.
Okay.
Are you like entertaining all five at least?
Like the same time around DJ?
Yeah.
Do they know about each other?
They don't know about each other.
How do you know that they're not the only people dating you?
I don't think that they would continue.
I'm not on TikTok saying that.
Yeah, but the guys I date aren't on TikTok.
They're like not spending their time on the internet or on social media.
The guys I date, they don't like social media.
They're just like, they're about work.
They're about their business.
Like they don't live on the internet.
I do.
They live in real life.
That's just their gotcha.
Are they also spending time with other women?
They probably are.
I assume that they are, you know, until we get to a place where we've both agreed that like this is serious and you need to drop your roster because I'm going to drop my roster if I know it's serious, you know?
For sure.
How often?
So you said it's about five guys on the roster?
Currently.
Is it more?
Is it less?
No, it's around.
I mean, around five.
Around five.
So it could be six, could be four.
Yeah, but it's not like I'm talking to each of them every day or I'm seeing them every day.
It's kind of like they're in the vicinity.
And if they, you know, call me on Friday night, I'll be like, okay, let me see.
I'm going to schedule Jay on Saturday and Josh on Friday.
Yeah, I put them in the calendar.
I'm a busy woman.
I can't take time.
Yeah.
I schedule them out and then I schedule them out.
And then, let's say in a week or a fortnight, of the five, how many would you say you schedule in a fortnight?
What's a fortnight?
Oh, 14 days.
Oh, in two weeks?
I'm being kind of extra with the fortnight.
No, it was nice.
Thank you.
Four score and seven years ago?
I would probably say I would like realistically two per weekend.
So you could do like, you might do a Friday, Saturday.
Yeah.
So Bobby on Friday.
Yeah.
Cornelius on Saturday.
His name is Cornelius.
What's that?
Whose name is Cornelius?
I'm sure there's a Cornelius in the group chat.
What's next?
Don't sleep on Cornelius's, okay?
They got, they put it down, okay?
Okay.
If you want, I know a guy who I could link you up with.
His name is Cornelius.
No way.
Yes.
I swear.
Single?
Yeah.
Is he smart?
Yeah, but he's like kind of, he grew up in a very isolated community.
Okay.
Because like what normal person?
Okay, I don't want to throw him under the bus.
So he's not on the internet.
No, he doesn't have any social types.
He doesn't have any social media and he like grew up in a very rural area with like super traditional parents.
Very, he's like, how do you explain it?
He's wholesome.
He's a gentle giant.
Oh, I love gentle giants.
They're my face.
So if you want, I could put in a word.
Yeah, tell Cornelius.
And he said, hello.
Question, though, on the whole Cornelius thing.
You know, do you think that there's just certain names, like, and I'm getting a little intimate here, that, you know, in the middle of some bedroom fun, you can't be talking dirty if they got a weird name.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm with it, and I'm with it too.
Like, oh.
Cornelius.
Like, I just couldn't imagine myself like pulling a girl's hair, whispering into her ear, and being like, oh, Gertrude.
You know what I mean?
Like a gertie for short.
That's cute.
Super attracted to her.
She was like just the hottest thing to you.
You would scream that name.
I would scream Gertrude.
Yeah, you would.
Oh, my God.
I might just not even use a name.
I might have to use a nickname for the bedtime.
Bad girl.
Yeah.
I just have to call her girl or something.
Oh, God.
You can have pet names.
That's cute.
Yeah, there we go.
So five on the roster.
And how long do is it kind of some come and go?
So like a guy will fall off the roster, then you replace or?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, because I feel like, I mean, like I said, sometimes it's zero.
Like if I have a busy week and I just don't have the time, then I'm just not going to entertain anybody.
And then sometimes it could be like 10.
Like it just depends on like, I guess, the influx of people that I just happen to like meet or match with that week and I'm like starting to talk to and all of that.
So I guess, yeah, it just depends on that.
You said sometimes it might be 10.
So let's say in like a week period or like a fortnight.
Let's do Fortnite.
Let's do Fortnite.
What is the most amount of, say, dates that you've been on with different people in a fortnight?
10.
10?
Yeah.
So that'd be, what, five a week or something?
Yeah, like Monday through Friday.
Okay.
But that's if I have like that's if I have time and energy.
It's a lot of energy to give you a lot of time.
It has a lot to do.
Yeah.
Dating.
Oh my gosh.
I call myself a dating guru because I do this so often.
At this point, like sometimes I do it just for the experience, just for the plot.
Because I just like, I'm so exhausted with dating.
Like when you're trying to find the one, you go through all of these ups and downs and roller coasters.
I'm like, let's just see, let's do it for the plot.
Let's see what happens.
And I'll start experimenting and be like, this is a guy that I would never go for.
Let's see how this works.
Maybe I'm picking the wrong ones.
Maybe I just need to try something completely different from my type.
Sure.
You know, so yeah.
Well, you definitely are a dating guru because I mean your TikTok, you definitely speak a lot about dating.
And we actually have a few that we're going to react to during the show.
We'll get into those earlier.
And you've gone viral a couple times.
You had a few that went very, very viral.
So we'll definitely react to those and we'll have a discussion.
Just a few more questions.
So when it comes to the roster, how many first dates, and this is for everybody here on the panel, we'll go around the table.
How many first dates total do you think you've been on your entire life?
Countless.
Lost count, have you?
I've lost count.
Have you ever got like a proper date or just like, let's say?
Like, let's say, I mean, well, if we're talking proper date, how do you categorize what a proper date is?
Yeah, you spend money on me.
Okay.
I would say just first, because some people might have like a meeting.
They might meet someone, but with a romantic subtext, but it's not.
You wouldn't categorize this date.
Okay, we went, we went on a walk type of thing.
Or we, you know, what is, what is, what is that?
What is a walk?
Yeah, like, I've had guys do that, and I feel like I don't like a walk.
I mean, I tried it in one of my experiments.
It was terrible.
Never did it again.
I think we saw that TikTok actually.
It was a beach walk, was it?
I've had one of those too.
A beach walk is how I found my boyfriend.
Oh, that's sweet.
But I mean, was it you guys met online and decided to go?
No, we met pretty organic.
So when you have that organic, that adds something to the relationship.
When you're meeting someone online, them doing the most low effort thing they could possibly do is such a turn off.
Really?
Yeah, I mean, of course, because that's what you're going to put to any part of the relationship.
And I'm not on there just for a hookup.
So your amount of effort is going to then lead to what your seriousness of the dating game was going to be.
Yeah.
I get that.
Are you guys like all looking for something serious?
Oh, I want to be yes.
I want to pop out a kid in the next year and a half, maybe two.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I'm on that type of time.
I wanted to be married yesterday.
But do you have an estimate, like how many first dates?
Let's say first meets with I would say 200.
200?
200.
Girl, I did a lot.
Can I ask you a question?
I told you for the plot.
I can't say yes to everyone.
About your roster.
So how, what are the cons of having a roster?
Because you said that you get exhausted.
So don't you think there should be a moment in your time where maybe you shouldn't have a roster and just focus on one?
Well, that's what she said.
Yeah, I feel like when I was younger, I used to do that.
I did focus on one at a time, but I realized that I was wasting so much of my time.
And you know, like when you're a woman, you only have a certain amount of time that you can, you know, certain amount of time to find a husband, get married, have kids, all these things.
So I got to a point where I was wasting like three to six months on a guy who was literally not ever going to be marriage material or husband material.
But I wasted all that time because I thought I was going to dedicate all of my time and energy to this one person.
It was going to work out.
And then I realized maybe I should have scaled it back a bit and see what he's about and see what kind of person he is and the effort that he's making before I kind of went all in.
So I think that's when I started the roster life because now I'm splitting my energy and I'm not like breaking my heart over and over again every three to six month stint.
So that's why that's the logic behind the roster.
That's how you date also.
Men talking about talking too many and decided.
Men talk to multiple men.
Let me not speak about all men because I saw you roll your eyes and I'm not talking about all men, but in general, no, it wasn't an eye roll.
It was more of an eyebrow raise.
It's definitely not all men.
Not all men, no, but like in general, I think the way that you guys look or seek out relationships as a whole is by nature differently, just biologically what we're made to do.
Did you have more on that?
Yes.
So when you have a roster, do you feel like you're the one who's wearing the pants or you're the one pursuing them?
Or how does that work?
Because I feel like the guys should be pursuing us.
Great.
So how does that work with you?
I only have, yeah, that's a great question.
I only have a roster because multiple guys are pursuing me.
Like multiple guys are asking for my time.
Like they're like, hey, are you available Friday?
Well, I got to check because Bobby, Joe, and Mo like texted me too and they also want my time.
So I feel like the roster kind of just got built around the interest.
And like if I have so many people like wanting my time, they're probably not all worth my time, but I don't know that yet.
So, and I don't want to say like no because I said yes to this one guy.
I'd be like, well, I have two hours scheduled on Thursday night at 7 p.m.
Are you down?
And just kind of schedule them out that way.
Okay.
And do you like go on dates with them or are you just like, okay.
Oh, yeah, I don't.
And that's another thing too.
I feel like I'm so traditional and I'm so like, you know, you got to take me out on a date.
Like, let's, let's do dinner.
Let's do a movie.
Let's do roller skating.
Like, let's do an activity for me to really get an idea of who you are as a person, especially in public.
I think a lot of a lot, especially online, guys, like a lot of guys will, you know, be like, hey, I never met them.
Like, hey, how are you?
Hey, how are you?
Why don't you come to my house for a dinner?
I can cook you dinner and we can watch a movie at my house.
It's like, sir, do you want to get robbed?
Because you don't know me.
You don't know if I'm going to set you up.
Like, you just don't know.
And you're so comfortable inviting a strange woman from the internet to your home.
And a lot of guys feel that way on dating apps.
So I'm just like, I'm not about that life.
I'm very like, I want to be careful.
And she, I mean, I want to just piggyback on her saying the rob thing.
Like, men, I've commented something and someone else had said that, oh, you know, why was she going to go and get, she's going to rob the guy?
But it's like, where we're coming from is as a woman, anytime you invite us over to your house, what goes through our minds is you could drug us and you could do, you know, you could do anything.
And so we have to take that into account when we say yes to anything.
And that's even in public.
So it's almost like a privilege that a man gets to be able to say, come over to my house.
And he's not even giving a second thought that you could be robbed.
You know, anything that could happen to you.
But we think that immediately.
That is very true.
Can I just have you tilt your microphone down like this?
Yeah, just perfect.
So, okay, just going back to the how many first dates question, how many first dates do you think you've been on?
I thought it was, I thought I was doing good by saying 20, but you said ever in my life.
I don't know.
Maybe like, maybe 50, not a whole lot.
Okay.
And then.
Well, I dated during middle school.
Right, but you said in 11 years, you haven't even been approached.
No.
Really?
Yeah.
Did you just stay at home all the time?
Guys don't.
No, so I feel like one of the major things that I encounter is getting friend zoned a lot.
I've had a lot of crushes and I kind of let them know, like, you know, I give them my attention, but they just never make a move.
What's your type?
Like, what if you're just going after the wrong type of dude?
Well, I mean, I'm not with, I mean, I don't date.
I don't, I don't have like online apps.
Maybe that can help.
But, and I guess when I was in college, I had opportunities to date, but I only met like three types of guy.
The first type of guy is that one guy that's already in a committed relationship.
Once he graduates, he's going to get married, already planning their wedding.
The second type of guy, he's like, oh no, I want to go to medical school.
I don't want to date nobody.
I don't want to commit.
The third type of guy is like, I want to hull around.
So it was kind of hard for me to date during college.
And right now, I'm not really surrounded by a lot of guys.
And the guys that I am surrounded with, they're already like married.
So I feel like my surroundings have something to do with it too.
Yeah, that's a factor because I've lived in the city for the past decade.
So I think there's more like opportunity and a lot more influx of people when you live in a city versus the suburbs.
But I feel like when I go to Ohio, for example, to like visit family or whatever, and I'll swipe out there, I feel like I do meet great guys with great mindsets that want to get to know me for real and want to take me out and things like that.
And I feel like I do get some good quality guys out there.
It's just not a lot of options.
And it's hard.
It's just hard to meet in the middle, I guess, with that.
But in an environment, exactly.
And I meet a lot of traditional men.
So a lot of them at this age are already married.
So yeah, it's just, I guess I'm 25, so I'm kind of that in the middle age and just kind of seeing what's out there.
But I feel like maybe I should be putting in some more work in dating, but I just don't want to go online.
And I'm great at meeting people.
I'm great at meeting guys.
I'm a huge extrovert, you know, and but they just never make a move.
And you're gorgeous, so they're bugging.
Like you're going to put yourself in places where you're going to be approached by men.
Where is that?
Let me know.
It depends what kind of man that you want, right?
I mean, often maybe like a bar someplace.
I heard you were religious, right?
Yeah, so he does have to have a relationship with God.
You know, God has to be number one.
I can be number two.
But he, yeah, he definitely needs to have a relationship with God.
He needs to have self-control, like all those virtues a lot of Christian people look for.
Do you go to a church where there's a single men?
I do.
Okay.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Like, like I, like I said before, I am around a lot of people.
Just haven't been approached.
Okay.
I don't know.
Sorry, hold on, we got Egyptian nuke student donated $100.
Well, well, well, to all the fat phobic jerks in the chat, you shouldn't make fun of fat people.
They've got enough on their plates already.
Ladies, be nice.
Ignore them.
Be the bigger person.
Do you guys have a resp?
I just, I think he's so sweet.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Thank you.
Do we have enough on our plates?
Okay.
There you have it.
I get it.
You guys have a good ticking it on the chin.
I guess you can.
I mean, he spent money to do that, so that's nice.
Thank you.
I love when a man spends money on me, so thank you.
So, first thing for today, we are going to react to an article.
Nick, if you could pull up the article, or it's just a photo, then we go to the article.
Should be the first thing.
Can you hide us really quick?
Just to hide us.
So this is an article.
Plus-sized women admit they aren't attracted to overweight men.
And Nick, if you could tab over.
Oh, my God.
Facts.
So this is the article, whisper.com.
Nick, if you can just scroll down.
Actually, scroll back up.
I'll just read it.
Can you mouse wheel control up so make it a little bigger?
Yeah, that's good.
As a plus-sized woman, there's this expectation that you should only date overweight men.
Oh, you can show us on the right side.
But what if you aren't attracted to plus-sized men?
Sorry, these women open up about dealing with the stigma of being plus-sized and refusing to settle and date overweight men.
From dealing with harsh criticisms to feelings of guilt for their preferences, find out what they had to say in all these, excuse me, in these tell-all confessions.
Scroll down, I'll just read the first one.
Sometimes I feel guilty because I'm not attracted to bigger guys, even though I'm plus-size myself.
I find it rare to find a big guy that takes care of his appearance and hygiene the way I do.
Scroll down.
I'll just do read one more.
I'm a plus-sized woman, but I'm not attracted to big guys.
I get a lot of hate and criticism for it, but I can't help that I like average to muscular types.
So on that topic, do you guys have a reaction to that?
And also, just what's your type?
Do you like bigger guys?
Do you like plus-sized men?
I have an immediate reaction.
Even in, sorry, just even in like when they're writing, she says settle for a plus-sized person.
They're assuming just because that you like someone who's not plus-sized, that then you're settling for someone who is plus-sized.
That's already like a negative connotation.
You can be attracted to whatever you are attracted to without putting another thing down.
Like when I'm talking to a man, and usually the men I talk to, yeah, they're fit-bodied men.
I'm attracted to athletic men.
I was athletic growing up my entire life.
I was also like 212 as a competitive figure skater, beating girls who were much smaller than me.
So I'm always attracted to things that I do.
I like to run every day.
I like to work out.
I like to work out.
And so I'm attracted to men that are like that.
And I feel like it's okay to just like what you like because they're obviously still attracted to me too with their shape.
You just got to like what you like.
Getting where you fit in.
Yeah, I feel like for me, I don't really have a type because I really am attracted to a man that I like on an intellectual, like mental, emotional, like all the other things you would connect with a human being with.
I feel like I'm more attracted to that versus their looks.
And when I think about like plus size guys and like athletic guys or fit guys, I can only really speak from like my experience.
And it feels like the guys that come after me or the guys that are like showing interest are like gym bros, like super fit, super athletic.
Yeah, they all are in my DM.
Like they're just like coming at me.
I'm just like, well, that's where.
So I guess I tend to date more, like either tall, skinny, lanky, athletic, or just fit body types because those are the ones who are talking to me.
I haven't yet like really had a plus, like many plus size guys kind of show interest in me.
I did date maybe one or two, or I went on a couple dates with one or two.
So I'm not opposed to it.
I'm just kind of whatever is offered, like whatever is pursuing me is, I guess, is what I'm paying attention to.
And the comment about their hygiene not being good, I've dated two really fit guys with six packs and they stunk.
And I'm just like, so it's really just not the plus size people.
I think like there's some smelly guys out there and they're fit.
And you have to understand a lot of plus size people also don't necessarily have confidence in themselves.
So where they won't judge themselves, they'll be okay to judge someone else.
Usually that kind of thing is projection.
It's what they're feeling on their inside.
So for that person, with those plus size women to then degrade what they also are at the same time, it seems like just a little bit of self-hate and boost your, you know, your self-esteem and that kind of thing that we said.
Right.
So for you, it sounds like you would have no problem dating a plus size guy, but the guys that are coming to you that are hitting on you, there's been a few plus size guys, but it sounds like it's mostly you getting like just kind of regular size, even fit guys, you know?
So with me, I like to, I'm attracted to guys that I, they can inspire me.
So kind of what the article said, I agree.
I, as a plus size girl, wouldn't date someone who's plus size.
Why is that?
Because I want a guy who I can look at and admire and be like, oh, you know, like, I would like to be that way.
I would like to date someone who's fit, obviously, because I want them to be strong and, you know, all this stuff.
But yeah, I guess it kind of seems hypocritical because some people are like, well, you're plus size.
You should date someone who's plus size or you should at least consider it.
And it's like, yeah, but you know, we are, we have our preferences and I would like to date someone who is fit because I can admire them.
They can also help me improve in my fitness journey because I truly believe that when you're in a relationship with someone, you two influence each other so much.
And I will like someone who can kind of help me in an area that maybe I'm struggling in.
But what if you're with a guy who's fit and he likes you because you're plus size and then you are inspired so much by him that you lose weight and then he becomes unattracted to you.
Oh.
Interesting.
Well, she has to stay.
I'm going to tell you right now that usually the men who are talking to me, they prefer me.
Oh, yes.
Same.
They prefer me.
They prefer my body type.
They might mess with something other, but they're, I mean, if they're watching, they know.
Yeah.
Like, and treats their own.
Like, I've got a best friend who's very, very thin and like her husband loves the crap out of her.
So it's just kind of like.
So do you think that's like a fetish almost?
I think it depends how you look at it, right?
You can just genuinely be attracted to something like this without fetishizing it.
Right.
Right.
So I think it depends.
It's how the person talks to you, how they treat you.
You can usually tell.
If they're really quick to be handsy with you, usually it's a fetishized thing.
If it's a short, quick thing or something they don't want to take during the daytime, not real dates, that's why someone like me will require something that's, you know, you're proving that this is not just some sort of fetish.
Yeah, but I mean.
Because what you said, what makes me think it might be a fetish is like if they were to lose attraction for you, if you were to lose some weight.
That's to me is kind of like, I mean, I would hope that they like, obviously physical traction is important, but I would hope that they like you for.
That's going to be the guy, though.
Like, is he kind of a douchebag?
Because he can do the same thing to his wife who was thin when he met her and then get her pregnant and now she's gained some weight and now he's lost attraction to her.
Nothing wrong with him, right?
Because she changed from when he met her.
Is that something you've encountered, though?
Like you started losing weight and the guy started losing.
I've not encountered someone just like, I've got respectfully adult personality, so you're going to fall in love with me.
But if you did decide, I have had men who've been like, they wanted to like feed me.
I like to work out.
I mean, I do like my sweet things, but it's not something I gorge on.
Wait, they like to like.
But like in a just like a normal sort of way?
Because there's some like weird.
You know what it is?
It was weird.
It was a little bit of a feederism.
So they like they get hard if they see what you eat.
Yeah, he wanted to feed me.
I'm not big enough for that.
I had to be twice my size.
I was my size.
I'm talking about feederism.
Have you experienced that?
Well, he wanted to feed me cookies.
Yeah.
He wanted me to, he wanted like, he was like, I want to eat cookies.
I want you to eat cookies.
That's my favorite food.
Like, yeah, it was like you eat.
Yeah.
And I've had guys who are like, well, I want to take you out to eat.
Let's eat together.
And I'm like, at the same time, like, you got to eat.
And like, I do like nice food.
Like, but I don't feel like they're.
But are you saying it's something beyond?
Because obviously, like, it's for anybody, like a dinner date, that's a pretty normal thing.
But was it going beyond that to like, he wants you to, like, stuff your face?
I mean, like, we didn't get that far, right?
Because I'm not going to sit there and do that for you.
Like, respectfully, that's a little too far for me.
But yeah, I mean, like, when he expressed himself, it seemed like that could be the way that maybe it could go.
But I'm not going to, like, I've just been mean for so long that I don't necessarily want to be unhealthy.
Like, I know certain things about certain foods.
And so I don't, I don't want to go crazy.
Like, I do like cookies, but I got to be kind of particular about that.
What was that story with the witch?
Is it Hansel and Gretel?
Which they eat the house?
No, where, like, the witch or something was trying to feed them to get them fat.
Yeah, that was Hansel and Gretel.
She caught them.
They were eating the house.
And then she was like, kept in the thing.
And she was trying to fill their bones.
And they were giving her the chicken bones to feel.
And she didn't think they were skinny enough.
Oh, shit.
And then they eventually pushed her in the stove.
That's a really old story.
I'm 28.
Okay.
Of course, of course.
Well, can I answer the question she asked me?
So I feel like someone who, I want to be with someone who also would support my health journey.
So even if they love me how I am right now, if I was to become healthier, hopefully they can also love that version of me.
And if they don't and if they break up with me, awesome.
I saved myself.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that is kind of weird though.
Like, why would you only want to be with me if I'm at this certain size?
There are people like that, but.
But it's the same way.
When we, when she said earlier, that the guys who date thin women, if they were to gain weight, they're like, sorry, Charlie, I'm chatting on you because you're not.
So like her body also changed from like thin to fat and then the vitamins.
Because a woman's body does fluctuate.
Like when I think about when I'm my future husband, like I know that the kind of man that I want, he's probably going to expect a certain something from me.
So every day, whatever I presented to him to get him, I want to continue to give that to him while we're married.
So I want to continue to look good every day.
I want to continue to do my hair.
I want to continue to care about myself.
And I want to present, I don't want to let myself go just because.
And so here's the thing, and I'm not going to attack you, but when you say that you aspire to be him or you look up to him, that's in a way saying that you don't like what you have right now.
And you told me already, you hit the gym.
So you're not an example of someone who's being unhealthy, right?
But you're in your mind have told yourself that because the way you look, it is unhealthy because I aspire to be something that is like him.
And what I say, what I just challenge you to do, that maybe just love what you got.
And then it doesn't matter where you fit before that.
That's when the personality, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I get your point, but I was still like, it's like, for example, you have a business and you have a mentor who maybe has already done it better than you.
And you kind of look at them, you know, like that type of relationship.
That's kind of what I'm looking for.
But okay, so question to kind of bring it back here.
So you said you are just not attracted to men who are plus sons.
Is that correct?
Correct.
But you've been single for 11 years.
Never.
Have you rejected plus-size men?
Like, have they?
Because you said you haven't even been approached.
No.
I haven't even been approached.
But like, if a plus guy's, an otherwise nice plus-sized guy stepped to you and he said, hey, I'd like to take you out, whatever, would you turn him down?
Look, everyone, physical attraction is obviously important in a relationship.
If it just happens to be the case, you're not attracted to plus-sized men.
Hey, it is what it is.
But would you turn a guy down?
Would I turn a guy down?
Yes.
Wouldn't even give him a chance.
Hey, look, I get it.
You got to be physically attracted to the person.
I would say yes.
But at the end of the day, when that happens, you never know if there's something else that sparks.
Yeah.
You know, like you just, I feel like I can't be too close-minded, but I kind of understand what you're saying.
at least give them a chance um i just would be if you're not attracted to him i mean yeah Yeah, I would just like someone who I can go to the gym with and work out.
And if they're like, okay, I don't want to be like that.
I hate going to the gym.
I'm not active.
I don't want to do that.
Then that's like, okay, well.
Well, plus-size men, just like we are plus-size and work out, could do that.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, if they're, they might be plus-size, but if they're still, like, taking care of themselves, going to the gym, then, yeah, okay, we can work something out.
But if it's someone who's like struggling with it and they don't want to go to the gym, they, you know, kind of like eating disorders or something like that.
Like.
Would you view it as settling for a plus size guy?
Do you view it like if you were, okay, I guess I'll date, like, would you view that as settling for you?
Me?
I'm not saying it is, but is that how you would view it?
How I would view it?
No, no.
No, I wouldn't view it that way.
You want to settle it for this person?
You say you're not attracted to plus-size men, so I'm trying, like.
I am.
Well, I'm not, but I feel like there can always be an exception.
I don't want to say never.
It's kind of like the quote of never say never.
Is there any plus-size guy that you can think of that you're like, yeah, I'd date him?
Like you think a celebrity, musician?
No.
Nobody?
I'm trying to think.
I think a lot of more.
I think it also depends what your definition is a plus size.
Because there's like bigger, taller guys.
You have to be clean and look good and look, you know what I mean?
You can't be like, I don't care about how I walk out of the house and you're just like in the same t-shirt seven days a week, you know?
Exactly.
I'd be like, you have to care yourself.
But that goes back to healthy lifestyle.
What about Jonah Hill?
Jonah Hill lost a lot of weight.
I don't know if you know.
Excuse me.
He's really dope.
Like older Jonah Hill.
I met him.
Or younger, I guess.
And his facial hair is always off to me and I don't like that.
Let me.
Nick, can you Google a photo of Jonah Hill super bad?
I met him like shortly after that, actually.
Oh, yeah.
And I was like, Jonah Hill.
He's 28, by the way.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh my God, I'm such a big fan.
He was like, really?
Thank you.
What's your name?
And I was like, Misty Maureen.
He was like, nice to meet you.
And I was like, you too.
And then I was like, here's your table.
Oh, were you a server at the time?
I was.
I was hostess.
Isn't he like a house?
He's like 5'6.
Isn't he like 5'6?
Is he a short guy?
I don't know.
No, he's about my height.
I'm 5'7 in his life.
He was 5'6.
Can you control Mouse Wheel up?
Make it all everything a bigger.
And like, he makes a lot of money, right?
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
That's good.
That's good.
Would you go for Jonah Hill?
He looks like he's 12 here.
I wouldn't friend him.
I would be his friend so hard.
I would.
Same as her.
I would definitely be friends.
So like, but like, factor in, factor in.
Now, obviously, he's actually lost some weight from this, but this was a very big movie when it came out.
So I don't know if like, are we.
He looks like he's 60.
Wouldn't you date him if you had a time traveling machine?
Just like you have to factor in.
So, okay, let's say would you date not just a guy who looks like this, but Jonah Hill, actor.
No.
I have.
Wealthy, funny.
He seems like a funny guy.
A Jewish guy.
No.
So is that a no for the whole table?
That's not a no for me.
I went on a date with a Jewish guy that was much taller, but he was larger.
But he treated me like a princess so sweet.
I wanted to like him.
But Jonah Hill, though.
He was similar to Jonah Hill looking.
Okay, so you would go for Jonah Hill.
I'm not saying I would necessarily go for Jonah Hill, but if Jonah Hill stepped up to the plate and gave me, like, here's the thing: just if I, if I'm treated the right way, I'm going to fall in love with your looks because I've fallen in love with broke people before.
And if I can fall in love with just your inside and your heart, because that's all you really had, then I think that I can fall in love with the other side of it.
Gotcha.
Would you go for the Jonah Hill side?
He looks like he's 12.
He looks like he's size.
Let's say he's this age.
He's 18.
I'm not attracted to him, not because of his size necessarily, just because of his upkeep.
I don't like the way he dresses.
I don't really like the personality that I get from him.
I don't like his vibe.
And I'm not saying he's like a bad person.
I'm just saying he doesn't give me a vibe that I feel like I would vibe with.
So I would say no based on that.
Based on the side.
And then also just like looks-wise, he just reminds me of like kid brother type deal.
Like, I'm not attracted to him because he looks very young to me.
Okay, what about?
I want to Google some other photos because I'm going to try to set you up with somebody, okay?
Let's see here.
Can you Google who's that DJ Khaled?
Yes, he's you.
Yeah.
There's a big guy.
Can we just tell him to make you feel like a princess?
He will sit on gold toilets.
He's a big boy.
You can't say none of that.
Let's see if we can get a photo.
Scroll down.
But he doesn't get a chance.
Okay, there we go.
That's good.
You can pull up the photo of him.
He's a big boy.
Okay.
He's a big boy.
What do you think about DJ Khaled?
He's DJ Khaled.
What's his thing?
His wife is a little slim, right?
I'm pretty sure.
Do you go for DJ Khaled?
No.
Not.
Yes, if he believed in going down on women, which he does not, he's made it very public.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so I think that that is very triple cosign.
Oh, you're not a fan of.
No, I just can't.
You don't?
Also, I was co-signing her.
You also don't like, but you like big lives.
I co-signed DJ Khaled.
So you don't go down on women.
You don't believe in that.
That's a hard no.
That's a red flag.
Sorry, I can't do that.
What is that?
What does that mean?
That looks like you're preparing to eat the meal like that.
Yeah, no, I don't.
It's not a fan.
Not a fan.
Not a fan.
We can get into it later.
It feels selfish because men always want that.
So it's like, no.
His facial hair is nice.
Let me see.
Let's find one more guy.
I'm trying to think of like a more.
I like the guy who goes, no, young, dumb, man.
You know who's that guy?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I got it.
I don't think he's not the one.
Patrice O'Neill, Nick.
He's not a child.
Fin Patrice.
I haven't seen him in a while.
We need Patrice up on here.
We need Patrice.
Do you guys see?
Like, what's that one comedian's name?
He's really funny and he's kind of cute.
Steve Harvey?
No.
No.
So this is Patrice O'Neill.
Guys, R.I.P.'s in the chat for Patrice.
Nick, scroll down a little bit.
Let's see if we can get a proper scroll down.
We got a photo.
He's a bigger guy a little bit, but I don't know if we're going to find it.
Scroll down.
These aren't the best.
Ice Cube.
Ice Cube is chubby.
Is he?
Oh, wait, what?
I mean, he lost weight now.
No way back in his hat.
Just really quick.
Patrice O'Neill?
You go for Patrice.
Wait, for him?
The guy we just showed you?
No.
What?
Oh, you go for Ice Cube, though.
What about?
No.
Wait, no?
What?
Okay.
You're picky.
You're picky.
Here's the thing.
I love how you're asking me these questions because it's making me really think stuff that I really haven't thought out.
I feel like when it, okay, you're asking me if I would date someone who's plus size.
Yeah.
I feel like I would if they're, if they have good habits or healthy habits, you know, for example, because there's some people, you know, I don't want to stereotype or anything, but there's some people that I've met a couple that are big and they are pretty lazy.
They don't want to go to a gym and sometimes those habits can rub on me.
Do you go to the gym?
I do.
Believe it or not.
I do.
And so that's one of my concerns is like when you are dating someone, whether they're whatever size they are, their habits is going to influence you.
And I truly believe that probably that's why maybe in my mind, I wouldn't necessarily date someone who is plus size and isn't, and maybe just doesn't care about their, like going, having a healthy lifestyle, right?
Because it could still be big, but have a healthy lifestyle.
Sometimes have been thin and they have not been working out.
It always was me.
Yeah.
You just want someone that's motivated.
Yeah, someone who's motivated and can go to the gym with me.
And yeah, so I guess to answer your question, I maybe would date someone who's plus size, but would I automatically be attracted to them?
Probably not.
Okay.
Can you think of a guy who you think that you are attracted to?
Maybe like a musician, athlete, actor that you think that's the kind of guy you would go for, that you are attracted to.
Can I think?
Realistically, you know?
I mean, realistically, I would date like a, I don't know, a.
Drake.
I love him.
That's her own size.
He's so hot.
Can we set that up?
I think he's seen how Drake is cute.
Drake?
Okay.
What about any other guys, any actors you could think of?
Like, oh, okay, I think I could, like, I could get him, I think.
I don't know his name, but he was one of the lead actors for The Vampire Diaries.
Oh, Ian Sommerholder.
The one that plays Stefan or the one that's the one that's Stefan.
No, Damien.
Damien.
Is it with darker hair?
Yeah, it's Ian Sommerholder.
Can we see a picture of them?
Yeah, okay.
I like guys.
Actually, Ian's really, really attractive.
Ian was in one of my favorite movies.
It's an old movie, The Rules of Attraction.
James Van Der Beek, Jessica Biel, tons of...
I think I've seen it.
Old, like, came out in early 2000s.
Were they brother and sister?
Wait, brother and sister.
Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
Probably something else.
Ian Summerholder.
Yeah, if you can find him.
He's in his 40s, though, I think.
And he still looks great in his 40s.
Not necessarily him.
It was the other guy that was supposed to be his brother.
Oh, the one on the right.
Oh, so you're talking about the one.
Yeah, that one.
Interesting.
Yeah, click it, Nick.
Click it.
So do you think that, like, kind of, he's on your looks level?
Like, he's your looks equivalent looks match.
Like, that's the kind of guy that you're.
Yes.
Okay.
I don't think I can grab one like that, but you never know.
I mean, yeah.
Do you think that a lot of more plus-size women get more attention than plus-size men?
Yes.
I feel like BBWs or big, beautiful women, I feel like some people sexualize them.
And here's the other thing.
I don't think BBWs represent all big girls because you have to be big in the right places to be considered beautiful to those type of people.
Like you need to have big boobs, big hips, big thighs, but somehow have a tiny waist and a fat tummy.
That's what most people like think of when they think about BBWs.
I think I'm going to be talking about it.
How about BBL?
I think about BBL.
BBL, baby.
BBW usually is like size like 20 up and you're, it doesn't, it's not curvy.
So the way I mean, I'm talking from plus size model standards, but it's usually curve and then plus size and then you beat BBW after that, which is size 20 and up.
Have you ever slid into any DMs?
I have.
No.
Never slid.
Okay, okay.
Because maybe that could be a metric.
Like, whose DMs have you slid into?
Masego.
Oh.
I love Masego.
Mago.
I'd be sliding on his films, too.
When I go to a show, I'll be like, Masega!
How you dare?
I love him.
Brian, can I ask a question?
Yeah.
Would you ever date a plus-size girl or have you?
When we're talking plus-size, what are we talking about?
Anything here, anything?
Any size is one of us, like some of these.
Or one of us, you don't have to say who or like our size.
I'm going to say no.
I could promise you.
Listen, I just disagree.
I just know that I can't.
Can you watch someone slimmer?
Listen, I'm not like a Greek god.
I've been, see, when I'm stressed, some people turn to alcohol, some people turn to smoking.
I stress eat.
So I kind of got a little dad bod right now.
It's not, I'm not like, I got a little dad bod, so I'm not like over here like, oh, I need a, I'm not like a Greek god over here fucking chiseled out of marble, but I need to lose about 10 or 20 pounds.
But what you are doesn't matter what you're attracted to.
So you don't have to like, you know, like, we're just asking what you would go for.
He's attracted to like more petite women.
I have a wide range of first, well, okay.
Men have very wide ranges.
I have a wide range.
And yeah, I think that's the case, actually.
Men have a pretty wide range when it comes to body types.
Oh, they speak girls.
It is irritating.
But you know what's crazy, though?
I think, like, because I think what it takes for a guy to be deemed physically attractive, and we can certainly have a conversation of, well, do men care more about looks than women?
But I think, like the, what women find physically attractive, purely physically attractive, I do think it's a bit narrower, excuse me, narrower than what men will find attractive, because like men will find like a pretty, like super thin girl attractive all the way to like you got thick and you got guys who like BBWs, whereas there's definitely women who like plus-sized men.
But I think like, if we're talking about what people will find attractive, I think for some, I think most women wouldn't find like an untrained, skinny guy attractive.
A lot of my thinner friends really like dad bods like you're not even like as dad as they can get like I could get more dad bods.
Yeah, I'm like a little bit dad guys, I'm working on it like they love that.
Yeah, that's why I say it's just really whatever you're into and that's like you got to go out there like confidence with it, because you can pull.
I think part of the reason why you may not be polling is because of the doubts you have in yourself, because that's what my issue was, or she's just super picky.
I mean, she can be super picky but she can get.
She can get what she wants.
You, you can get what you want and you're not in California too, but she's been single for 11 years.
But that's what I'm telling you.
I think it's we gotta be real.
I blame the guys.
The guys aren't making moves.
The guys are not making the moves, the guys I don't know.
Probably I can do something.
I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
I have to get over that hump.
Yeah, we can only do what we did.
Yeah yeah, we have to.
You have to get to a point where you believe that you deserve that.
When you just said he's cute, but I don't think I could pull him, you need to get to the point where he's cute and I and I could pull him.
Well, I feel like if I had that mindset and Delulu, I feel like I would have to be the one pursuing them and I don't really want these.
What about like just a starter, a starter conversation?
Like, hey, I like that shirt you're wearing.
Why don't you get it?
And I do that.
Like, I do that.
But I just always get, they always just see me as a friend because I don't think a lot of them see me physically attractive.
I think what she was saying, though, like, you have to put yourself in the right places to be approached by the men that you want to be approached by as well.
And you have to have that thought that I'm what they want.
Because the minute you say I'm not what they want, your energy is that.
And of course not.
If you're like, I am what they want, literally Dululu, I am what they want.
All the men want to talk to me.
All the men.
And just like that energy alone will make men attracted to you because they're seeing the confidence in you.
Because at the end of the day, just like he says, there is a wide range.
I can literally go back home to Seattle and I might be like whatever level I'm here.
I'm a Seattle 10 easy because even if a girl is looking really beautiful with standard society and beauty, I've got more confidence in the way I dress and carry myself.
Already I'm pulling.
What's a Seattle 10?
That's a good question.
Is that like a Jeff Bezos?
Okay, so I mean, in LA, everyone's beautiful.
Everyone's going there to work.
And so if you're really pretty, you're going to be an actor or a model.
Where in other places, you can be really pretty and just work for like Google.
Okay.
All right.
Seattle.
We just attract a lot of attractive people.
Okay.
I wonder what a Chattanooga 10 is.
Where's that?
Tennessee.
Tennessee.
You are.
So you're a 10 in Tennessee for sure.
I'm a 10 in Tennessee.
Yeah, I think the audience will be.
As long as you're not posting photos on your dating profile with like a big fish, then you'll be a 10.
You don't like the fish photos.
Because when you're in places like Tennessee and you're swiping through a dating app, it's like every guy has a big fish.
Every guy has a fish.
It's a fish.
Like, I caught this big fish.
I'm a man.
Where do you compensate for that?
You'll look stupid.
Every single guy.
I'm just like, no, no.
A lot of girls are not a fan of the fish, but doesn't that show that he's like in a zombie apocalypse, right?
Gabby, Gabby, Gabby.
Listen, listen.
Wouldn't you want, like, it's plausible that within the next five years, 10 years, there's like a zombie apocalypse.
Wouldn't you want your man to be able to fish?
When we get to the zombie apocalypse, I will seek out the fishmen.
The fishmen.
If you're by the zombie apocalypse.
But right now you want like a more urban guy who doesn't know how to fish.
You know what?
You make a lot of sense there.
Maybe I shouldn't use the fish.
I'm changing your mind on the fish.
I feel like on social media too, a lot of the guys that post those fish pictures are guys who don't post much on Instagram at all.
Aren't really on social media.
Social media don't really get how that works.
Okay, that's fair.
You're right.
Reconsider the fish photos.
I'm going to reconsider the fish.
Reconsider the guys with the fish photos.
I will swipe on the next fish post.
Give him a picture.
Do you have a photo like that?
I don't.
Okay.
Do you fish?
I want to learn, but I'm slacking in that area of expertise.
To go back to what you were saying, also, Tuscaloosa 10.
Am I?
Yeah.
Would I be a 10 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama?
Okay.
Just one question.
I've never been.
I don't know.
So you were asking me, Brian, would you date a plus?
And then you asked me.
Here's what's weird.
This is going to sound weird as fuck.
Say it.
Like, I would cut.
Okay.
For some, bro, okay, I feel like, don't get me wrong.
So generally, I would say my type is probably more like on the petite side.
Honestly, I'm trying to get with a dwarf.
Do any of you know a dwarf?
Like the little person?
I don't think you're supposed to say that.
Like the little person?
It's dwarf or little person is okay.
Yeah.
Both of them.
Like a midget.
You can't get a midget is no-go.
You can say that.
So we all just said that.
You did tell me.
It's not me.
The purpose of saying not to say it.
I think it's, although she does have a point because, well, okay.
I think dwarf is cute, but I don't know.
I'm not a low person.
My understanding, well, dwarf used to be like the M-word.
What's the M-word?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I don't want to say it.
Just, you know, I got a lot of dwarf followers.
So they're okay with that.
If they're okay with it, I'm okay.
My understanding is dwarf is okay, but now it's called the euphemism treadmill.
So they'll, what happens is there's a new word that gets introduced that's more PC, but then like through usage over time, it starts to actually become offensive.
So it's kind of like where I think there were, it was, for example, with retard, right?
Oh.
Retard was a new term used that was deemed to be politically correct and appropriate to use.
But that books.
Over time, yeah, over time it became derogatory.
So now we've come up with other words, and then probably eventually those other replacement words will be deemed inappropriate.
It's like using the word fat and then going like BBW, you know, because fat could be offensive.
But is it?
Nope.
I love the word fat.
Really?
Words have as much meaning as you give them.
So if you're going to sit there and say that you can say that about anything, okay, if word fat, it's offensive, then I'm offended by it.
You could do the same thing with black.
You can do the same thing with woman.
You can do it with any word you want to.
So if you take away the negative connotation of the word, it no longer has that connotation.
So fat, fat is, but if someone insulted you, like they called you.
I was having an education level.
That's all you could think of to say about me is what you verbally, what you see physically.
That's then ha ha, you win, like going about my day.
Because I get paid to be fat.
Gotcha.
But let's say they weren't using it in an insulting way.
They were just trying to think.
Like, if they referred to you, like, they weren't trying to offend you.
They were just saying, oh, she's a.
Not in an insulting way, but she's like, oh, she's a fat girl.
Is that offensive?
Not only some people are offended by that.
Some people might be upset by you.
But I'm not.
I feel like fat has a definition and I'm very logical.
If I fit that definition, then I'm fat.
Okay.
So you got thick skin.
You got thick skin.
I feel like that the term fat in the last like three years, I feel like have has gotten a little bit more like acceptable because when I was younger, you call me fat.
I'm ready to fight.
You know, like now I don't feel like it's an offensive term anymore to me, anyways.
At least in the groups that I'm in, it's not really offensive.
I agree with you.
I'm the same with you.
So to answer your question finally, generally speaking, I would say yes, I do prefer kind of petite women like 4'11.
But again, my range, look, when it comes to height, though, okay, let's talk height really quick.
I'll date a girl who's 4'10.
I'll date a woman who's six taller than me, 6'5.
So you're very flexible.
I'm pretty height-wise, very flexible.
Yeah, gosh.
I'll date thin.
I'll date thick.
I don't know if thick women are attracted to me, though, because I feel like most women want to, like, they don't want to feel smaller than the guy.
And I could be wrong, but I feel like most women, like, there's some women who are thick or just maybe more muscular and they got like big legs.
Some women got bigger legs than me.
And they're like, I don't think they want to fuck with me because I got these chicken legs right now.
We're supposed to have bigger legs.
No, we're supposed to have bigger legs.
I'm watching those women.
I have bigger legs than everybody I've dated.
No one's beat me in the leg department.
Well, okay, you never know.
But, okay, to finally answer your question, for some reason, okay, God, am I going to get, I don't know if I'm going to get canceled.
Okay.
Kind of chubby Asian women.
You know what I mean?
We win again, Chubby.
Just saying.
Yeah.
A lot of them are short.
I give a pass to what?
No, it's not a fetish.
Just like no, not even the preference.
It's not like I'm zeroing in on chubby Asian women, but okay, why not?
Do you like the little chub?
You're open to it.
I don't mind a little chub.
I don't mind a little chub.
A little.
But honestly, most of the girls I've dated have not been, but like, you know.
And I'm a little more flexible if she's got a large laby.
Let me just say that.
Okay.
All right, moving on here.
Yeah.
Do you find there's consistency with women's body types and their labias?
I don't think it's tied to body type.
I don't think so either.
I'm just wondering if you felt that if you felt that way.
Just like for genocide, it is not.
It's not.
It's not.
She said, what's happening?
You're going to be 63 and have a tiny little bum.
I took anatomy class.
I know what it looks like.
All right.
Okay.
So we need to react to some videos here.
I'm trying to recall where we.
Oh, one last person.
Nick, if you're able to Google Chris Farley, he was a hilarious comedian in the 90s.
I think he was on SNL.
He passed away in the 90s, early 2000s.
I loved him.
I would totally.
I had a crush on him when I was little.
I loved that man.
I actually have a couple of soundboards.
He is so.
He was hilarious.
And Tommy Boy.
I was obsessed with Tommy Boy.
Yeah, love it.
Would you go for Chris Farley?
See.
And obviously we're just, it's just by appearance, right?
Because I don't even know him.
But pronounced.
Or like Aramaic.
Or he will die.
No.
My answer is no.
You wouldn't date Chris Farley.
No.
Would you?
Without knowing anything about him, if he just came up to me and was like, let's go on a date.
Probably not.
That's how I'm seeing it.
Oh.
No, no, no.
I really like his vibe, like his energy.
Like, look at the brightness behind his eyes, his big, beautiful smile, his chubby, rosy cheeks.
Like, I love that.
Santa.
Yes.
I love Santa.
Oh, I told her.
Not me hitting up the malls for Santa Claus this Christmas.
Not the people online asking if he broke Santa.
Okay.
All right.
There you have it.
Let's do one of the videos.
We're going to skip over one.
We're going to watch the video from Gabby here.
And this is, I think, the one that went the most viral.
I mean, I had a few.
There's a few.
There's definitely a few.
Oh, there's me.
Why did they try to start you off like that?
That's on the video.
I expect a man to pay for the date.
Yes, the whole entire date.
That includes my Uber to the date and my Uber back to my house.
If you are a man that I'm interested in, I want to see that you can provide for me.
I want to see that you can afford an Uber ride.
I want to see that you can afford a nice dinner date.
Like, can you afford basic things?
Because if you can't afford dinner and an Uber by transportation, you certainly can't afford kids.
You certainly can't afford a house.
You certainly can't afford my bills.
And I got bills to pay.
Okay.
Period.
Period.
I totally agree.
Period.
I drive.
When you say you have bills to pay, what do you mean?
I pay my own rent.
I have two apartments on my own.
Two apartments.
In one city or different?
No, one in New York, one in LA.
Okay.
Yeah, like light bills.
And then not even that.
Like, I need to get my nails done.
I need to get my hair done.
I need to get my feet done.
There's maintenance bills.
Yeah, like Brazilian waxes.
Like, I have things to pay for.
And like, if I'm going to be dating you, like, fork it over.
And is that something that you are more, I mean, it sounds like from the get-go, first date, write in, he should be paying.
Yes.
Get you an Uber for the date, pay for the first date, etc.
Does he have to get an Uber or can he pick you up?
He can pick me up, but a lot of them have said, I'll just send you an Uber because they don't want to drive.
I don't know why.
But so you're fine with either he sends you an Uber, pays for it, or picks you up.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then has to pay for the first date.
And then I assume like second date, third date, continue paying.
And so currently, you said you got about five guys on your roster.
Are they all when you're going on a date with them or when you did go on the first date, they're paying, getting you the Uber is that?
Yeah, well, I mean, last night I went on a third date with this guy, and he always picks me up.
So he picked me up last night, went to a movie, you know, got some popcorn slushies, and then he dropped me back, and that was our date.
Okay, and he paid for it.
Everything.
No, I don't listen.
The video that we just reacted to went super viral.
I know you said there's a bunch of other ones that you've had a bunch that went viral.
And we actually got a few.
So we're going to try to get through all of them.
Oh, not yet.
So, can I comment on that video?
So your question.
I'll be right back.
Okay.
Your comment was basically saying that men should pay for the date.
Yeah.
Right.
I think I've heard Brian said before that he disagrees with that.
I'm not sure.
Probably could cure the error.
But I totally agree.
Because, I mean, I always see dating as the man needs to be doing an investment in his love life, right?
If you're not willing to pay for the date and invest in your love life, even if it falls through, then you're not willing to invest in things that really matter in the long run.
So that's why I really believe that when I go on a date, they need to be the ones paying because you're dating, you know?
If I want to pay, then I'll just go with a friend.
What's the difference?
Right.
And I feel like a lot of women these days, they're like, oh, let me be nice and let me try to pay for half and he'll respect me more since he doesn't respect you more.
You're just wasting your money and your time at this point.
And like, are men ever shy in trying to push your boundaries and trying to get you to go further than you want to go when you're dating them?
No, they're not shy about that because they know what they want.
They know what they're investing in this for.
Exactly.
And it's like, okay, so if they're not shy about it, I'm not going to be shy about it.
I feel like I have a little bit different of a perspective because I'm younger.
I don't expect a guy to have the money to pay.
Like being the age that I am, I don't expect them to have the money to pay for everything that I need.
Like, I absolutely think a man should pay on a date.
Maybe, I don't know.
I just think first date, it doesn't matter that much to me because I, if I were the guy in that situation, I wouldn't want to just blow money for it to fall through.
I think time is worth investing in, but not money.
The same men, though, when you're on that date, have no problem asking you to come over and asking you to give up your business.
So, I mean, you go on this walk park date and then they ask you to come over, and now what?
They've gotten exactly what they wanted of you, and you received what?
Not anything except for a request for you.
Well, I got, I mean, but isn't, I mean, my view of sex, it's an equal value exchange.
No, you're not.
It's not.
It's for men.
We receive.
Sex is for men?
Especially when you just said they don't want to go down.
You don't want to go down on a woman, then what is she really getting?
She's going to come.
Are you sure she's going to be a little bit more?
Are you sure she's going to be like, oh, yeah, I'm satisfied and be like, girl, I was so upset.
He didn't even finish.
Like, I don't know.
I just feel like men benefit more from sex than women do.
Yes, women can enjoy sex for sure.
Erroneous.
Women can enjoy sex, but the men are benefiting from sex for sure.
Disagree.
Disagree.
First, what would be beneficial?
We can talk about the orgasm gap.
So it certainly is the case that, well, we can get into details, but there is the argument that men are more likely to orgasm, especially if it's like a casual encounter, that men are more likely to climax under those circumstances than the woman is.
However, I would say my counter to that would be women are multi-orgasmic.
So if a guy comes once, some women, they be coming like three, four, five times.
So now it's really interesting, though.
I feel like men's climax or orgasm response is very almost typical.
I mean, there's some variance, but it's pretty, I mean, whereas for women, it's getting a girl to climax from one woman to the next could be very different.
Like some women can come like really insane and they're multi-orgasmic.
They come in 10 seconds.
They can keep coming.
And then other women, it can take a long while.
And then there's some women who, despite best efforts, even themselves, there's some women that if they're masturbating or whatever, they just have a really difficult time or they can't even make themselves climax, which is, I think for men is pretty unheard of.
But what's the majority?
What do you mean?
Of women?
Of women.
What's more seen than the, I think, I mean, at least I'm from my experience, it's certainly, I would say, I would say when I'm talking about like women who are super multi-orgasmic and come really quick, that's pretty low percentage.
Okay.
Probably less than 10%.
But I mean, women that can come, I'd say that's, I mean, 80%, I want to say.
At least in my experience, like I'm, I've got a pretty good track record of.
You have a lot of experience.
I'm not saying that, but I'm a man of God.
I'll have to say, my whole thing with sex, even if it's, I'm not really interested in casual sex, like I don't like one-night stands.
Like, if I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
I want to continue seeing her.
Because for me, it's a waste of time.
What's the point?
So my experience though is, sorry, I lost my train of thought we were talking about.
If you were very experienced.
We're talking about sex.
Forgot that I mean, super experienced.
Oh, no.
So what I was going to say is, like, my whole thing is I want to make the girl come before me.
That's important.
For sure.
I like to make her come before me.
So whether that's hands, toys, whatever.
I feel like no one's really taking into account the reason why we have sex.
Like, this is why it's like such a important thing.
It's not just the pleasure, right?
Procreation.
Yeah, procreation.
That's the reason why sex happens, right?
And so let's say we take the risk and we do have sex.
The only person who has to deal with it once the condom breaks is me.
Like you can choose to be there or not be there.
You can choose to be part of me taking the day after or not.
If I decide to have the kid, you can choose to be part of it.
And I, no matter what, once I let you enter me, I'm now obligated.
And I'm thinking about that from the very moment that I even agree to be around you.
Because, you know, it can happen now that I'm around you.
And so I feel like that's what I feel like a lot of people are not taking into account.
You say they're talk about sex.
Who's it good for?
Who's it not for?
At the end of the day, the only person who has to worry about the end of the day is me, the person with the uterus.
I agree with you on the point of pregnancy.
Obviously, that's something exclusively that women could potentially encounter from a sexual encounter.
But if we're talking, like, let's assume the context here is, you know, there's not obviously.
Every time there's a risk.
Yes.
Yes.
But let's say like the intention is not to get pregnant.
Maybe the woman's on birth control.
Who's really?
But that's the point.
That's the point.
That's the point, Bull.
But if we're talking about...
We don't not think about that.
But if we're talking about, you know, because there's often this trope of, well, only men are getting value from sex in the form of pleasure.
But like What I was trying to argue there is that, well, actually, women also get the same pleasure.
I do.
I agree with that.
Pleasure for sure.
But she was talking about the benefit, the outcome.
You know what I mean?
You guys can get that and be satisfied.
We don't get that and just be satisfied.
We get that and want more.
I'm not satisfied with just that.
With a nut?
No.
Yeah, I want my bills to be able to do that.
And plus, I don't even want to.
You know what?
Nothing satisfied with that.
Nothing.
You want to be horny?
I want money.
Nothing to say hornier than you take.
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
Can you just repeat that one more time?
Repeat that.
Repeat that.
Okay.
You want sex, I want money.
I think there's a term for that.
Hold on.
Wow.
What's this?
Is that institution?
No.
Oh.
I'm not having sex for money, guys.
To be clear, I don't have nothing sex for money.
You know what?
I feel like one of the reasons why women, some women, want money is because of that consequence that women can endure.
There's a risk, like she said, yes.
You know, we can have sex, but I would be the one getting pregnant.
There's more consequence for a woman.
That is why, for women, we often get satisfied if you bring money to support that.
So it's not only in the bedroom, it's what's done outside of the bedroom as well.
It's more, actually.
I mean, for a woman, it is.
Yeah, like I can literally get horny if you have bought me dinner and I'm not sure.
You want to make me come?
Pay my rent, pay my bills.
Nothing makes me more money.
I will call you a hug than you taking care of me.
Treat me like a big-ass baby, and I will be so ready to hug and kiss and be around you.
Like, I gave a guy a little bit of a conversation for an hour the other day because they bought me like dinner.
And I was like, I think I might like him now.
Think of how many women are struggling.
He's treating me right.
I think I might like him now.
If he's watching, you know, thank you.
Think of how many women are struggling in their relationship right now and they're so exhausted, so tired, so overworked.
And then like all you can hear the guy say is, look, she doesn't want to have sex anymore.
She doesn't want to do this.
She doesn't want to do that.
Like, duh, because you're broke ass.
Like, why would she even be turned on?
Why would she even?
Oh, sorry, I wasn't going to say that.
Why would she even be turned on at that point?
Yeah.
Bring some flowers home.
It's a real quick fix.
Wait, Nick, let me control the center zoom, okay?
You can go here, but let me do the center zoom.
So, okay, hold on.
There's a lot there.
So, okay, you're saying that women today, they're overworked, they're tired, they're taking care of the house.
Freaking exhausting.
We take care of ourselves.
We used to live at home, and then her parents would find us someone.
There'd be a dowry, okay?
And then we'd be sent off to live with him.
Now we need to do it ourselves.
I don't get a dowry.
Should we go back to patriarchy?
I'm not saying we should go back to anything.
We live in a patriarchy.
We are living in a priority.
Especially if we live in a patriarchy.
Let's not take it away from right now.
We definitely still live in a patriarchy.
Do we?
Yeah, we do.
I had that same conversation with someone in the song.
It's ridiculous.
I don't think go to social studies in any public school in the country.
We're definitely in a patriarchy society.
Go to social, like a social study.
That's where they taught us that we lived in a patriotic society.
That's what they taught us.
Where's the proof?
The fact that men make more money than women in any job that they get is the same.
That's not false.
That's not false.
I literally work in acting where the men make more money doing the same job that I do when they make it to a certain level.
Absolutely.
Well, okay, now we're getting into that.
There's different factors.
But that's just a fact.
You can walk around with your shirt off.
I've got to wear a bra.
I know.
That is actually on that thing.
I think, well, okay, we're hitting on a lot of points here.
The wage gap, the wage gap has been debunked.
When it comes to the shirt thing, that is actually the only right that I can think of that.
We don't sexualize men the same way that men sexualize women.
You can't do that.
We demonize male sexuality.
I mean, you can say, you can walk by a group of women and they're not going to be like, hey, baby, oh, look at you.
Take your shirt off.
The chances of us doing that.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for Albuquerque, 10 or where were you from?
Alabama, 10.
Tuscaloosa.
That's probably hard for you.
But generally, men can walk by a group of women without those women cat calling them when that's not something that we necessarily have or feeling safe walking to our car.
I'm pretty sure you do where I have to wear, I have to bring some sort of like spray, something we have to protect ourselves.
We have to think about going to your house.
Are we going to be okay?
Like, those are things that you don't have to think about, which shows us.
But the way you feel, just because you feel unsafe as a woman, doesn't mean that you actually are unsafe.
The reality is, if you look at crime statistics, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
But other men.
That's my point.
Well, that's victim blaming.
But that's not victim blaming.
It is, because what does the gender of the perpetrator have to do with what you're still victimized regardless of the gender of the perpetrator?
I'll be right back.
Okay.
She's going to be right back.
Just go that way if you can.
So men are creating, so at the end of the day, the fact that we can't like, we have less upper body strength and we've got, there's, we're made differently.
Us being able to protect ourselves against those predators is different than you being able to protect yourself against your predator.
So the fact of you being scared to walk to your car in the middle of the night is just going to be different because you know if someone comes up to you, even if you might still be victimized by a man, the fact of you getting hurt or being able to scare them off is a higher chance percentage than it is for me.
I'm not sure about that.
I mean, that's not about sure.
It's not sure, not sure.
A man's going to look at you and me.
I promise you he's going to choose me to try to overcome.
Well, you, I mean, I'm not trying to make a comparison here, but like you might be more physically imposing than I am.
I promise you I can probably run faster than you, but at the end of the day, he's going to.
I still know about the running part, but I might.
But what I'm saying.
Should we do a race after the show?
I mean, I can do a nice job.
Yeah.
But my point is that you can argue the opposite side.
What is it called?
Devil's Advocate.
But at the end of the day, a man's going to come after her before he's going to come after her.
And that's just the rule.
They're going to come after you.
They're coming after me before they come after you because you provide a little bit of threat.
Me, I don't provide a lot of threat.
I feel like let me respond.
I actually disagree because there's actually a thing where even among like, okay, take criminals, for example, the people that would victimize you.
Don't get me wrong, like when it comes to mugging, like for some people who would be inclined to mug somebody, the gender of the person might not be a factor.
But there is certainly a thing when it comes to criminals, for example.
Like you look at prisons, right?
Look at jails.
Who are the most reviled people in prisons and jails?
People who tend to target people that are deemed as weaker, let's say.
So men who abuse women and men who abuse child are going to be victims in a prison setting.
But a guy who beats on another man is not going to be, there's not a stigma attached to a man who beats on another man.
But as a man, if you beat on a woman, then you're going to get, you're going to get, well, also in a public setting, let's say you and me are in like a bar type environment, like a nightlife type environment where there's a lot of people around.
If a guy starts whooping on me, nobody's going to intervene on my behalf.
But most women, if a guy starts whooping on a woman, other totally random stranger men will intervene on that woman's behalf and white knight basically and protect her.
Free bodyguards.
So women have free bodyguards.
I mean, you can say that, but that's like a hearsay, right?
Because I've literally physically seen a man beating on a woman and people just standing on.
I was the only person to stand up and do something.
So I feel like the what-ifs about a bar and that sort of thing is a little bit difficult.
But the fact that you're saying that a man in jail will then be victimized in jail because he decided to pick on the weaker race, you're already proving my point.
That was the weaker thing to go after, which is why he's now victimized in jail, because he decided to go after something that he knew could not stand up against him.
Not you, but me.
And that's the reason why he then in jail is looked down on because it's like you should have gone against a man because that would have been fair.
the fact that you win against something that's weaker means that you're a piece of shit right but there's this concept like that okay men are taught you should never hit a woman blah blah blah etc etc and that's going to provide you certain privileges like for example if i walk up to a guy and i just you know let's say it's a bar nightclub type environment and i call him a bitch I might get fucking slapped.
But like women, you have a lot more leeway.
Like you're going to have to antagonize a guy significantly for him to get violent with you.
I don't feel like that.
I mean, I just think it depends on who you're around and where you're going to be.
Well, obviously it depends on the guy.
Yeah.
But I would say, also, look, you mentioned this scenario where there was a woman who's getting beat on by a guy.
And there is a concept of a bystander.
Yeah.
Certainly for both men and women, when you're witness to something, there's a bystander effect.
But I would say I've seen like a lot of situations where if a guy were to put his hands on a girl and there's a crowd, like there's people around, there's a lot of guys that are going to intervene and they're going to fuck that guy up.
They're going to fucking curb.
Right, but so.
That's why it's a patriarch society.
They see already that they have the hierarchy and they're trying to save something that's weaker.
That's a benefit, though.
You have free bodyguards.
You can say it's a benefit, but it's due to the patriarchy.
Well, there is no patriarchy.
I reject this idea that there's a patriarchy.
I think there's two factors here is the culture, right?
Like men are supposed to protect women.
And men can fight within each other.
Another thing, too, is also like biology, like the physique of someone.
We women have videos on this.
Because here's the thing.
When I, you know, if a girl is scrapping with another girl, whatever.
If a guy's fighting with another guy, whatever.
But if it's a man laying hands on a woman, they're attacking the man, right?
Or if it's a woman slapping the man, they're like, okay, good girl.
Like, he deserved it.
So I don't think anybody should be able to do it.
I feel like, exactly.
So I feel like it's those two factors.
Usually women are more vulnerable.
Here's what I have to say.
Like, that's why us as women, we need to have wisdom and be like, what can I do?
And you kind of talked about it.
You have stuff, right?
You have your tools.
You know, some women carry, which I think is great.
And some women get like self-defense classes, martial arts.
Like, you need to equip yourself and stop putting yourself and making yourself very vulnerable.
And that's empowering.
So we're kind of getting a little bit away from dating, but just on the whole violence thing.
Nick, if you can pull up in the Dropbox podcast videos folder, there's two videos I want to react to very, very quick if you can get those going for us.
Let me know when you're in the folder and I'll tell you which one it is.
There's two of them.
And this is really just to kind of articulate the point that, again, it's not always, it's not a guarantee that if a man is beating on a woman, other men will intervene, but it's like a very common phenomenon.
Do you have it, Nick?
Wait, what do you, are you in the- I just feel like that proves my point.
Look, it's Dropbox podcast videos.
The fact that...
That's like.
So that proves my point.
Nick, come on then.
Can you do it?
I mean, I mean healthier.
Okay, minimize OBS.
Click the folder.
Click.
Sorry, guys, hold on.
Okay, go to.
It's okay.
So Dropbox podcast videos.
Let me know when you're there.
So we have White Knights 1 and White Knights 2.
That's the title.
What?
Love that.
And I love seeing that when people actually do stand.
That's the type of person I am.
Try to stop violence.
Well, here's the thing.
In these scenarios, actually, the women are the instigators.
And even in those contexts.
Sometimes they can be.
Even in this context, if a man tries to defend himself, that's why my recommendation for men, even if you're like, you would have a claim of self-defense, if a woman's beating on you, you need to like, you need to get out of that situation because if there's other people around, even if you're in a genuine, legitimate, valid self-defense situation, if there's other men around and you they only see the component of you trying to defend yourself, be careful, do you want to get fucking curb stomped?
So yeah, um okay, so I don't want to see a fight.
So go ahead, play it.
Can you go up?
Make it a little bigger.
Yeah, no, that's good.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh no, it is a girl.
She's in the hijab.
Okay, play it.
Just move the cursor, please.
Is there audio on this?
Okay, so you got two girls kind of bullying.
Is there audio on this?
Yeah.
Okay.
I could hear it.
I can hear it.
It's a little hard to hear.
I wonder what he said in class.
Can you go all the way?
So she, look, he's backing up.
One more.
One more.
One more shit.
He doesn't want any.
She's shoving him.
He's backing up.
He probably said some bullshit in class.
I mean.
Hold on, let's just watch.
Let's just watch.
He's backing up.
Not a threat.
He's backing up.
She's pursuing.
She slaps him.
He hits her.
Self-defense.
There's two girls at 2v1.
He's defending himself.
Oh, this is gross.
Now watch.
There's the football guys.
Now, there's a teacher there, but if that had continued, he probably, like, those dudes came and intervened.
He said, probably, let's not go off of what we don't know.
I mean, looking at the situation, I was in high school too, that kid looked like he's used to being bullied and he just got frustrated and punched her.
Because if the football guys were just right there to come in in action about to beat him up, they probably already didn't like that kid anyways because he looks kind of nerdy and they probably like wanted a reason to beat him up anyways.
They're probably this is a valid reason to beat him up.
Let's get him.
Here's another one.
Nick, can you play White Knights 2?
I don't think it's okay for violence, by the way.
Well, yeah, I agree.
You shouldn't hit anybody.
So this girl grabs his backpack.
But what did she, what did he say to her?
Like, girls don't just do for nothing.
And now he defends.
He's crazy.
He defended himself and now he's getting.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I hate fights.
That's ghetto.
Oh, that's ghetto.
Did he live?
This is a lot.
Did he live?
What do you mean?
You can't see what they're doing to him.
This is a lie.
Dude, he's on the ground.
I don't see wood.
Oh, he's like all delirious.
God I can't tell if he looks a little wobbly on his legs In any case, look, I know that's a little different than normal conversation, but like this idea that, you know, I mean, I was trying to basically articulate my point that just because you feel a certain way when it comes to safety, I think men are older.
And it's backed up by the crime statistics.
Like men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
Men save men from them and men save women from them.
It's not women who save them.
It still shows the power that you have.
Wait, what do you mean?
Well, you're saying that the men are the ones, men are the ones that are doing the vic the intervene.
And men are the ones doing the crimes, and you're saying men are the ones that intervene, right?
And they're doing it to men and women.
You still got out of three of those, it's still men, men, men.
So it's what I'm failing to.
Okay, so what I'm saying basically is if it, the reason why I'm saying it's a patriarchal society is because if it was women who could intervene and save the woman from being beat up by men or women that could intervene and save the men from being beat up by other men, then maybe we could say there's some sort of equality there.
But it's men who've got to step in both times to save that person.
So even though they're the ones causing the tiff, they're also the ones that have to save.
So that's still the way you've got the power.
That's the power is being able to determine who does and who does not get beat up.
Well, I mean, there's just a biological basis for that too.
But that's what society we live in.
Yeah, but it's not, I don't think it's inequality.
It just happens.
It's just biological reality.
It's not inequality.
I said it's a patriarchal society, which means you guys hold the forefront in our society.
Here's the thing.
I'm sort of failing to see that, but okay, you said, what is the patriarchy?
Let's go there.
What's the patriarchy?
What do you mean by that exactly?
Well, you use the term patriarchy.
What is the patriarchy?
I said patriotic society.
Okay, what is a patriarchal society?
When I think of that, I think of men holding the hierarchy as far as jobs.
They get to make the decisions.
They get to feel safe or be accepted in most places that they go.
Disagree with that.
And being able to make laws.
I mean, we're slowly starting to integrate that, but having just the say of how our society goes.
Well, you know what's interesting, kind of tying this back into dating.
On one hand, you have women who want men to lead.
You want men to pay for the first date.
You want men to be the providers in a relationship.
But then you also complain that men allege it, supposedly, when it's been debunked, the wage gap.
Oh, but it's so unfortunate that men earn more than women.
And it's so unfortunate that men have these leadership positions, even though these are characteristics and traits that women desire and demand that men have.
I don't mind it.
Don't mind what?
I don't mind it.
Like, I'm me saying that men make more, even if it's been debunked.
My experience that, you know, the places that I've been, they have had the hierarchy in jobs and money and things.
And I don't mind it because for me, I have found a different place for me.
Like, I don't need to be the breadwinner of the family.
So I don't mind that.
Well, then, but you said how important it was that a guy have his money right.
You were kind of saying, you know, you're not interested.
You don't like broke men, for example.
So wouldn't this mating pressure that women create make it more likely for men to want to rise to the highest levels of industry and corporations and try to make the most money?
Because there's this pressure on men that doesn't exist on women.
Because most men, they're not like looking at a woman and really thinking, whoa, I really hope like she's a super successful, like high earner.
That's not, it's a plus, I suppose, but I don't think for most men, the money that you bring to a relationship is going to really be a factor in how attractive he finds you.
Sometimes it's a negative.
Right.
Like I've dated men where my money had made them feel some sort of way jealous and they would actually.
But how is it that we can complain, well, oh, men make more money than women, which I'm, to me, isn't entirely clear.
Men make more money than women.
Men are in higher positions of government and in business.
They, you know, they're more likely to be CEOs and be in boardrooms, et cetera.
But then also women say, well, when I have kids, I want to step back and I want to be provided for and I want men to pay for first dates and I won't date a broke guy.
But you don't often hear men saying, like having qualms with dating a broke woman.
wouldn't it make sense and there's a lot I think there's a lot of other factors that I could articulate but if there's a mating pressure that women impose on men to be financially successful wouldn't it make sense that men would yeah pressure has always always been there It's not like a time when it's not.
Like we're in a place right now where we're trying to take that pressure off, but we're still also pressured.
You guys have a pressure to provide.
We have a pressure to be alchemists.
You know what I mean?
And then we're not even women if we don't have babies.
Like, you know what it's like, and that's not something I believe, but that's sometimes how we're treated.
But I don't think the two things can coexist.
You can't demand that men be the sole breadwinners of families, but also demand, well, we want equality in the workplace.
I never, I think that I hear what you're saying, but if a woman is to do the same job as a man, I think that she should be paid the same.
However, they are, though.
However, if a man is doing construction work and you've got him next to a woman, if you guys are both hired construction to both do some shoveling, you're going to be getting twice as much work done as she is getting.
So per what you're doing, what you're working, you deserve to be paid that.
That's how I feel.
Okay.
So I don't feel like you guys deserve the same rate, same wage for doing different jobs, even though you're in the same place.
So the wage gap is justified.
I didn't say it was a problem.
I wasn't complaining about it.
I was just stating a fact because there's going to be a wage gap between me and my future husband.
You mean he's going to make several thousands more than me.
Well, are you a high earner?
I don't.
A high earner.
Do you consider yourself, like, are you a high-earner?
Not in California.
I'm grateful to live off of my modeling acting alone.
I don't own my own business and I'm able to self-like take care of myself.
Gotcha.
Okay.
You made a great point, Brian.
I agree with you.
Usually the guys in leadership, they're the ones that have families.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they strive to be.
And they strive to be in leadership.
They want to be in leadership.
They want to get promotions because they want to be able to provide more for the people who are going to be able to do that.
What you said is a great point.
Well, I've seen these articles where they're saying a lot of women are not finding economically attractive partners.
Yes.
But then you'll also say, well, I want equality in the workplace.
And I feel like those two things are like if we're going to have equality in the workplace, then you might struggle to find men who are on your level financially.
I feel like that's like a, I mean, not every woman's going to agree with that stance because not every woman wants to be married and have kids.
Some want to be career women for the rest of their lives.
So I feel like for them, yeah, they want to get paid equal or more because they're relying on themselves.
They're not relying on a man for money.
But if you're a woman who wants a family, you want to be able to have the luxury of staying home with your babies versus having to go to work and leaving your kids with strangers and things like that.
So I feel like there's different women for different things and what they want.
Sure.
Yep.
Sure.
So okay, question for all of you.
What does a guy need to make?
Bare minimum to get you?
Me happy.
Bare minimum?
I would say $100,000 after taxes.
I prefer $200,000 and up.
But I would say after taxes, bring home like $100K.
So bare minimum, $100,000, but more preferably $200,000 after taxes.
What about for you?
He's got to be able to afford a house and a family in the current city that he resides.
Are you in LA?
I'm sorry.
Do you live in LA?
I do live in LA.
Okay.
Would you like to settle down in LA, you think?
I mean, I'm going to go where the life takes me.
I'm currently in L.A. Pocahontas.
But, you know, I'm living in L.A. now.
So in L.A., to be able to have a house and a family.
I see.
Yeah, you're looking at six figures, $200,000.
But, I mean, I do kind of like nerdy guys.
A little bit of autism is kind of hot.
It's okay.
All right.
Just a little bit.
Asperger's guys.
Her DMs are open.
Just a little sprinkle.
Listen, those are smart guys.
Yeah, they are.
Don't sleep on the, you know.
I think I'm actually a little.
I think I might be a little autistic.
You're already spoiled on the floor.
There was a little person outside they were asking about you.
So we have to.
All right.
What about you, bare minimum when it comes to income for your husband?
Future husband?
I would say hopefully 80K in future.
80K plus.
Yeah, I care more about the lifestyle.
I don't want to have a mansion.
Like, this is how I see it.
Where do you live, by the way?
I live in Arizona.
Arizona, okay.
Yeah.
Phoenix?
Yes, Phoenix, Arizona.
Okay.
Party.
Yeah.
So continue with that.
I don't know.
Like, I'm not about the mansions.
I'm not about none of that.
I care about the lifestyle.
And I also want him to listen a little bit to Dave Ramsey as well.
That'll be great.
Okay.
There'll be a bonus.
I care more about the profit, like the net profit and what we have.
I care more about lowering expenses and being able to have some room to have a good life.
So whether that's we can work with ADK, whatever it means.
Like I don't want him to be super rich and I want him to be able to give me something that I can turn into treasure.
Like if he can give me a trailer, it might be trashy.
Me as a wife, I'm going to come in.
Oh yeah, you're right.
I'll fix that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I want someone who's able to provide, give something, and then entrust me to me.
I feel like my job as a wife is to make it even better.
Like if he gives me like a trailer, it might not be the best.
I'm going to turn it into treasure.
I'm going to turn it into women like that.
Yeah, but I want to help Seward what my man is doing.
So do I want him to make thousands and millions?
No, that's not what life is about for me.
I mean, that's why I said 100K after taxes because I can work with that.
I can multiply that.
I mean, I plan on being a multi-millionaire.
So you want to help your management.
I need a base.
And I'm also a minimalist.
Like, I live in a small little room.
I don't own that much clothes.
Like, I want someone who isn't that materialistic.
When you say lifestyle, what do you mean?
Like, would that entail, well, I'd like to go on a couple vacations every year type of thing.
Yes, I like to invest money and experiences and memories versus purses, jewelry, all this stuff.
No.
Yeah.
So if the men can give me that, I'll take it.
Okay.
And question for all of you.
So once you get married and you start having kids, because you guys currently work, right?
You work now, but will you work up until the point when you start having kids?
Is that kind of the goal or you want to continue working?
Or as soon as you have kids, you kind of want to take a step back and then let him be the sole breadwinner?
When I get pregnant, I won't be able to work.
I'll have to take a sabbatical anyways because I'm a plus-size model.
I'm a fit model.
So companies rely on my body shape to remain the same.
So if I get pregnant, let's say, so I do tourage shoes, I do true religion jeans.
If I'm going to get pregnant, then obviously I'm going to size out of the jeans that I'm fitting.
So when you fit, that means you make them right for your size.
So once I then give my body to you for our child, I won't be able to physically work.
I could probably do some acting.
I might be able to do some maternity shoots, but my main income, my LLC, will be, I'll be giving it up basically for us to have a life.
Got it.
Okay.
And you're willing to do that?
For the man that I love.
Hell yeah.
I've taken care of.
Absolutely.
I'm getting on that ship.
And remember, I told you earlier, if I get on the ship and it goes down, we're going down together.
But I want to make sure the ship I get on is not like a robot.
I want to make sure it's a freaking yacht or something.
If we're going to go down, I want to make sure that I'm giving up what I have.
It's got to be better than what I got.
I want whatever my life is with this man to be better than what I have right now.
That's how I feel.
If it's not better, then what's the point?
That's how I feel too.
The camera, it still looks blue.
Oh, well.
I don't know.
Maybe I'll fix stuff later.
We'll check in on a bit.
So, okay.
Wait, I had something here related to this shit.
We were talking about patriarchy.
I guess we can come back to patriarchy.
So what?
Why?
Okay, so question, question.
So do we currently live?
Yes.
In a patriarchy.
In my IMO, yes.
Okay.
All right.
So what does that mean, though, to be living in a patriarchy?
That means that, I don't know whether it has to mean something or not mean something.
It just always has been this way.
Well, you'll often hear use, you'll hear terms like oppression, right?
So under patriarchy, do you think that women are oppressed?
In certain ways, yeah.
Certain ways, yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
It depends on the environment.
I feel like anyone can be oppressed.
It just depends on other factors.
Gender is one factor, but there's other ones.
Okay.
And so you guys say, yes, are women oppressed?
Yes.
Under patriarchy, are men the oppressors?
If women are oppressed, then are men the oppressors?
I wouldn't call all men oppressors.
I just feel like they benefit from a system.
Okay, yeah.
They benefit from a system that even if they're not just like when you talk about white and black or people racist and all this other thing, it's like you benefit from a system that has been built to make you okay.
I mean, it's written in our amendments, like all men are created equal.
It just starts from the beginning.
You can say, oh, but it really started as they meant white men.
They didn't even include black men when they meant that.
I mean, when they say that, for example, when you say human.
But that's not what they meant when they said it, and they know that.
And when you go down the list of things.
For example, when you say mankind, that refers to both men and women.
It doesn't just mean men.
You say that, but at the same time, they didn't mean that when they wrote it.
They didn't consider black people to be human even at that time.
I wasn't talking to George Washington.
But we know this from history.
Well, I don't know.
Okay, we're talking about the Constitution.
That's not an area of that I'm not an expertise in, but my understanding is when it comes to language, when it comes to etymology, when people are using like men or mankind, for example, they are referring to people as a whole.
I mean, that's what you're saying, and that's what we have assumed now is, but when it was written, how it was based, our forefront, our forefathers, our country being built, I mean, it wasn't Thanksgiving, dude.
Like it started with a hierarchy and it was the white male and they wrote themselves as the hierarchy.
Well, it doesn't say white men.
He doesn't, right?
He doesn't say anything about white people.
He doesn't even consider other people to be inclusive.
They had to decide.
Black people were one-third of human, considered to be one-third of human after we were emancipated or what have you.
So it's like, it's still written.
You can say it changed, just like religion, right?
Now we let certain people in religion and now you can't do this and you can do this and you can have many wives and you can't.
Just like things change.
Sure, it changed.
But when you look at how and why, it's because that's how it started.
Okay, but let's talk modern day, right?
OK, so because what the Constitution was I don't think you can get into modern day without recognizing 50 years ago or something is.
I just want to say this.
I just feel like it's a battle between good and evil, and it can be anyone.
A woman can be really evil.
A man can be really evil.
There's history, you know, of what and what gender might have had more power, this and that.
But I feel like now it's just, it's really a battle between good and evil, and it's your choice what you want to be.
I know some women that are really, really bad, and guys are really, really bad and the opposite.
And some people get caught more, some people don't.
And also media and all this stuff.
But okay, so are you oppressed?
I know there are people that try to oppress me, but my mind frame is I can do whatever and I can do, I can do it all.
So I don't feel necessarily, but I know, especially growing up in the background that I've had, I was very, I'm very hyper-aware to people when they try to oppress me now because I wasn't raised with it necessarily.
But mine comes more in the form of my skin color rather than in my gender.
Because if you're already going to dislike me because of my skin color, then I'm also my gender and then I'm also fat.
So it's like you found all the reasons to hate me.
So like you're talking intersectionality.
But that's my daily.
Like I don't get to just be like, oh, you don't like me because I'm fat.
Oh, you don't like me because I'm a woman.
It's like you might not like me for any one of these reasons and you're still going to act that way to me no matter what.
Okay.
Well, we're speaking just within the confines of gender here, but okay.
So oppressed?
Because of gender?
Oppressed?
Yes, I feel like I've definitely missed out on things because of my gender.
Okay.
Or I've been treated away or fondled away or have even, you know, but also at the same time.
On a systemic level, is that kind of what you're talking about?
Like systemic oppression?
I mean, because I hear that term a lot.
So.
What?
It's just funny the way she got up.
Because I'm just trying to think, okay, when it comes strictly to gender, right?
I'm just trying to think like, what right or privilege as a man do I have that, that you don't, or that women don't?
The one thing you actually mentioned earlier and I agree with you is the shirt off thing.
But that's really the, and in some cities, in some places it's legal.
Other places it's not, like it's supposed to be legal, but people don't do it.
But but yes, there are.
There are definitely places where women can go shirtless in New York oh, I thought only on the beaches, I don't know.
I thought I saw like an ad campaign where a lady was walking down the street with her free the titty, yeah.
Free the titty, yeah.
That's the only right that I can think of.
Though, when it comes to like a system, like laws where, when it comes to rights that men have that women don't, do you think women should be able to have you know their titties out, I'm down, I'm with the freedom, free the titty, because I feel like that's, that's the rule, for I feel I understand why that's a thing.
I lived in France for a while and they they're not as separate, they're new to school.
I understand why women are not allowed to show everything, because obviously, you know, this can be very sexual, but that's why it's because we sexualize everything, especially in this country.
Society is made up by the people right, and it's, it's true, governed by the government though, and and guys chess, no one really gets turned on.
But you'll see men who we're just talking about.
Chubby men, you've got bigger titties than I do.
You know.
Instagram, like you know, flags you if you show like a titty.
But I know some plus size guys who have gotten banned from Instagram or gotten their pictures taken off because of their topless, and Instagram registers it as a woman's breast, but it's a man, so they're.
They're discriminating against fat men.
There's another way, Instagram discrimination, there's another one.
Wow, not just there, you have it there.
You have it folks.
What about women that um aren't allowed to breastfeed in public without being harassed by the public?
I think that's oppression.
Like you, they well woman, you can't help but to breastfeed your child, like wherever you are, and people have an issue with that.
I've seen videos online where people are being like, yelling and being aggressive while a woman's breastfeeding their child, their baby.
And what can she do?
She can't fight you.
She's literally a woman with a Breastfeeding, and you're don't you don't know how to mind your business, you don't know how to walk away.
Like, you're in her face, like, you so aggressively because you're so upset that she pulled out her titty to feed her child.
It's because you're over-sexualizing everything that a woman does.
Just like how they say, like, oh, you know, if you're bigger, if you're a fat woman, you shouldn't wear tight clothes, you know, because it's too sexual.
Okay, on TikTok, I, you know, you go through bans.
I don't know if you know this, but like, like when you're on TikTok live, they'll like ban you for a week if you did something that they didn't like.
For example, I'm like showing people like my outfits or whatever in my closet.
I dropped something on the floor, I just bent over to pick it up and I got banned for a week.
But I see skinny girls shaking their butts in bikinis and they never get banned.
And I just picked something off the floor.
Like, I have too much ass for you.
Like, what are you trying to say?
Our bodies are sexualized.
You know, like, that's the reason people hate so much.
People hate sex, like, thicker women because our bodies are sexualized instantly.
If I'm wearing tank top and if she wears a tank top, she's okay.
I'm busty.
Madison, do you have a response to?
What's the what's I think she says you're flat.
That's what she's saying.
Oh, no, I wasn't.
Well, but I do get that.
No one was definitely saying that, but I was saying.
Like, if I were to wear this shirt and if I had like way bigger, I would be like, holy shit.
Yeah.
You know, yeah, I complained.
And on you, it's like so cute.
And on me, it's like, she must be wanting to get paid.
You can't wear certain things in a different body.
That's all I was saying.
He's over here.
Yeah, yeah.
So do you guys think that bigger women should be dressed differently to dress that you want to do?
No, I'm going to continue my little crop tops and my little booty shorts and my little mini skirts.
You're just going to have the deal.
Okay.
Conservative now.
Yeah, you should be able to wear what you want.
Are you going to get judged more?
Probably.
So you have to be okay with that.
Probably.
But what about the woman who don't like to get cat?
Was it cat called?
Listen, you have the control of what you do.
If you wear that outside and you get cat called, I get cat called and sweat please don't have to be mad at someone else.
Yeah, you have to be expected to happen.
I agree.
Like if we're going to be, you know, flaunting what you have, guys are going to want to admire it.
And if they can't do that, though.
We shouldn't really be that upset.
We go, as we're walking down the street getting cat called, we're going into Starbucks and getting that free cookie.
Yeah, that's true.
Do I get free stuff all the time?
Yeah, all the time.
All the time.
So I guess it's a matriarchal society since we get free shirts.
Girls getting free everywhere.
Men have to pay 20.
Give me the money.
Society works for us.
Keep that up.
It does.
Can you send us some more money even though we don't get it?
I really liked when you guys wrote us little talk shit things.
I was enjoying that.
Yeah, when they were like, my benzo are open.
Don't make fun of the fat girl something, something.
They're going to both.
Give me a treat.
To go back to what we were saying earlier, though, I feel like a lot of skinnier men do like bigger women.
Isn't that so funny?
I feel like I've seen like it's like a fucking pair, right?
Yeah, exactly.
It's so funny.
And like, yeah, I do, I do attract a lot of thinner guys.
Also, cut guys, what she said, but it's so funny.
And they know it.
They'll be like, well, you know it's a skinny guy who's got to be with a thick girl.
They just have this thing.
Yeah.
I don't mind.
Hard bodies attract more.
Skinny guys can like sometimes impact.
What do you think bigger guys attract more?
I see them with petite women.
My thinner friends like bigger guys.
Yeah.
My thinner friends like that.
Because they feel safe and secure.
We have conferences.
Oh, okay.
Big teddy bear.
And like, big boy season is coming.
You know, Sizza with the big boy.
Like, big boy season's coming.
So, like, everybody's looking for a big boy to cuddle up with for the months of October, November, December.
Yeah, everybody.
So big boys sliding my DMs.
Any boy slide my dad is awesome.
Not picky.
I'm not, because I can read a vibe so quick.
So I'm just like, eh, I'm not feeling you.
Ooh, I'm feeling you.
And it has nothing to do with looks.
Like, it's your energy.
Is there anyone on your roster that you're like, this could potentially be the one?
Ooh, good question.
Two of them.
Yeah.
Two.
Really?
What do they have to do to be good enough?
Or like, what do they have to do?
What differentiates them?
What differentiates them?
One is here and one is out of state.
So, um, I feel like for me, it's all about like just the time that I spend with you, the consistency into getting to know you because it can be great in the beginning, but like I need to know that you're uh effort and you're consistent in like pursuing me over a span of time so that I understand that this isn't just you're just pushing for the cookie.
You know, like I need time to get to know you to see what kind of person you are.
So, that's all.
I mean, they're not doing anything wrong, but it's just taking some time, especially if there's distance.
I feel like the guy that is farther away from you has to put in more effort, you know, than the guy that is in your area for sure.
And they don't know what that might be a little bit unfair.
Do they know what to do?
Like, are they sending you bouquets of flowers?
And like, I don't like that.
You don't like that.
I don't like flowers.
I like flowers if, like, say you're picking me up for a date and you give me flowers.
That's nice.
But to just show up with random flowers at my doorstep.
Like, have them sent to you.
Let's talk about what is your lovely life?
Maybe like chocolate.
Oh, yeah.
We can get to that later.
Okay.
Yeah, you can send me chocolate.
I like chocolate.
Wait, so you said that two of the guys who are currently in your five-man roster, there's some potential there.
Yeah.
How long have you been seeing both of those guys?
One guy a month.
The other guy was just my friend for a few years, and now he's stepping up his game.
So, you know, we'll see.
It's blossomed into a little more.
Okay.
And how long has it been kind of a bit more romantic, would you say?
Maybe a couple months.
Oh, a couple months.
Okay.
And are you like for either of these two guys that you're kind of a bit more interested in, like, would you be ready if one of them was to say, hey, I want to be exclusive.
I want to just be boyfriend, girlfriend.
Are you open to that?
Yeah, I'm open to it.
So you're waiting for them to initiate that conversation or step up, right?
The other needs to step up.
Like, they're both already at the point where you'd say yes to either of them, or they need to prove themselves more.
Oh, okay.
I would, okay, then that's a really good question.
So, no, no, no, I'm not ready for that then because I don't feel like it's been enough in-person dates and in-person time spent for me to say, I feel comfortable being exclusive and getting rid of all the other guys.
I feel like I just need a little more time to spend with you in person to really feel that connection to be like, yeah, I'll drop my roster for you.
Okay, got it, got it.
So, we're going to do a couple of chats, then we have a bunch more videos to react to.
Okay.
So, let me get the let's see here.
We have actually, we'll do that one.
This has been really fun, by the way.
Thanks for having us.
Oh, well, thank you guys for coming.
I wish we had a bigger panel.
No, it's better.
Although, you never introduced me to this chick.
Oh, that's Kiki.
Kiki.
Yeah, she's cool.
Do you love me?
Oh, are we allowed to sing on here?
No, yeah, you can sing.
We're going to get like copyrighted.
Oh, you sound just like Drake.
Let me get this on.
No, you're fine.
You can sing on.
Just like Drake.
I'm going to copyrighted Drake a lot on here.
I sound like a dog.
Well, I'm Tony Braxton.
I do.
I would like to actually run it back, like do another plus size.
Please do.
But like with some more people.
You're going to have to feed us, though, if you want us to come all the way down here.
I got to feed you guys.
You told me.
You're going to have strawberries right here.
You're worse than our dates right now.
Come heavily.
I'm a jerk.
I am a jerk.
Have a hefty, hearty meal.
Telling us to go to a buffet before we come here is like, well, I just said, go see you.
Right.
Like, he provided us, but thank you for the sexy ass and the water.
I do.
That message goes out to everybody.
We tell people, hey, make sure you have a good meal before you come on.
We don't want people getting too hungry.
I think you would offend the little if you had like a panel of little people.
I think you would have you know what?
I actually, a local hot dog chain reached out to me today.
You, okay.
Well, so we might.
You know, hot dogs.
Excellent mignon.
I like crab lady.
Come back, we might have some hot dogs ready to go.
So I'll bring friends in there.
There you go.
All right, we have Marshall here.
Brian, huge panel tonight.
Nice beard question: Are you going to address the right contour allegation of this podcast charging man $9,500 for C while OF girls are platformed for free?
Yeah, so basically, yeah, basically, this guy DM'd me on Instagram and he kind of requested to be on the show.
I forget.
Actually, let me pull it up just so I don't want to misquote myself or him because I don't know.
I feel like being accurate with this sort of stuff is kind of important here.
In any case, you know, look, every single one, I'm going to try to find it and talk at the same time.
Pretty much every single week, we get over 100 requests from people to be on the show.
We get 100 requests from men to be on the show.
And the format of the show, if you guys haven't noticed, we've done 100 plus of these.
It's not really like get an equal amount of men, get an equal amount of women on the show.
It's kind of primarily based at like interviewing women.
Now, occasionally, we do have guys who come on the show.
They almost, they almost more so fill the role of like kind of co-host versus additional panelist.
But typically, the format of the show is bring women on.
And we're, because it's interesting to hear the women's perspective on dating.
And you'll notice, even the shows where I do bring men on, I'm not really directing so many questions towards them.
It's more so, again, the show, the format of the show is interviewing women.
In the same way, if I was to have a fashion show and I had primarily female models and I was making women's clothing, I would predominantly be hiring women for the thing.
So the whole format of the show, it's not like there's not equality when it comes to the panel.
Like we primarily bring women on, and that's established with the 100-plus shows we've had.
Now we get, despite the fact also that we say we're just casting women, again, we get like 100 guys a week saying, please put me on the show.
We only do two shows a week.
We have limited size on the, there's a limited amount of seats on the panel.
It would be impossible for us to accommodate every single individual who requests to be on the show.
So unfortunately, just as a matter of practicality, we have to turn down people.
We have to reject people.
I don't like to use reject, but we cannot, again, if we would have to do a show every single day of the week to accommodate every single person's request to be on the show.
So we have to say no to some people.
In this guy's case, we have like just a blanket thing that we send out saying, hey, we're primarily casting women.
That's the format of our show.
What we do offer when it comes to the $9,500, the $9,500 thing you offered or you mentioned, first off, no man, we haven't had any guy on the panel pay to be on the panel so far.
Every guy that's been on the panel, it's either just somebody I know, somebody, you know, Chase or like another content creator, right?
In our messages, when we tell people, hey, we're primarily casting women, we are not really accepting applications at this time.
That might change in the future, we have sponsorship options.
So the sponsorship option, which is available to people who don't even want to be on the show, if you want to sponsor the podcast, let's say you have a product, we've only done like five sponsorships, we've done 100 videos.
So we did something with Blue Chew.
We did something with, we've done like five sponsorships, not a lot, right?
So what we say is, hey, if you want, like we can offer a sponsored seat option.
If you're really, really dead set on coming on the podcast, let's say you have a product or, okay, Madison, stop.
You can do it later, but let's say you have a product or you want to promote your social media page, then that is an option.
Again, if you're dead set on being on the show, we extend this opportunity for people who want to sponsor the podcast, and then we can get you on the show.
At the end of the day, again, we have 100 people every single week who want to be on the show.
We have to be somewhat selective when it comes to who's going to be on the show.
And then the other factor I would point out, the individual who messaged me here, this is where I need to try to find it if I can.
He got personal.
His step one to being invited on the podcast.
Don't insult the person who you are requesting to be on the podcast.
His messages were very aggressive.
This guy's very entitled.
He feels like he seemed entitled.
Here's the thing, right?
If I'm reaching out to somebody to do a collab, especially like I would not blow up Joe Rogan if I reached out to Joe Rogan and I said, hey, Joe Rogan, can I be on your podcast?
And he just ignored me or he just didn't respond or he turned me down.
I would not publicly go proceed to put him on blast.
That's the name of the game, man.
Listen, you have a small platform.
I'm not saying that to insult you, but there's just a there's a reality when it comes to collaborations.
If I can't just ever, again, a hundred people want to collaborate with me.
I have to kind of move in a way where, okay, you might think it's kind of like scummy to do this, but obviously people want to collaborate with people who have a commensurate social media following.
You have a smaller social media following.
You're not a bad person for that.
There's nothing wrong with that.
However, it's just the name of the game, man.
You should try to collaborate with people that are around your audience size.
And at that point, start building up.
And then you'll be able to like, okay, for example, it would be great.
Who's like a really big, who's really big on social?
I would love to collaborate with Aiden Ross.
Aiden Ross gets 70,000 live viewers on his live streams.
I'm a small fish compared to Aiden Ross.
He's not going to collaborate with me.
It's just the, it's the name of the game, man.
You need to try to find people to collaborate with who are on your level.
It's not about being the dickhead.
And I've actually given some smaller, I've given smaller creators opportunities, chances to come on the platform.
But you got to, it's just the reality of social media, man.
Like, and also when you're coming at me aggressively, like, I don't want you sitting next to me, man.
Like, you need to have some tact when you're like, okay, let me actually pull it up.
Do you guys want to talk for a bit while I'm trying to find this?
Sorry, I'm fucking rambling about it.
Speaking of aggressive, oh, I'm going to, I'm, okay, so maybe I'm not with the Times or whatever, but you mentioned Aiden Ross and I'm actually going to be on his show soon.
I know, because apparently there's no plus-size black women in LA or there's like a really small percentage, but he's was specifically looking for plus-size black women to be a part of his show because I guess, you know how he does that show where like he hooks up his friends with like girls or whatever?
Speed dating.
Yeah, so apparently one of his friends only likes plus-size black women.
I was the only one in LA.
He is cute.
So yeah, so but I'm not the only one in LA.
Hello.
I know that.
So yeah, and that I was like, well, who, because I know my younger brothers, like, they know about more streamer people or Twitch people than I do.
So I asked them, I'm like, yeah, like, we know him.
I'm like, oh, cool.
Right.
But so really quick on the sponsorship thing.
So we, when people message they want to come on, we mention that we do have like a sponsorship tier that like if a company reaches out to us via email and they're like, hey, we want to sponsor the podcast.
Sometimes people, we haven't set it up yet, but we offer them, hey, we can do a 30 to 60 ad 30 to 60 second ad read.
But if you also have someone that represents your company that you want them to sit, like we had a, we didn't set it up yet, but there's a dating app, a conservative, excuse me, conservative dating app company.
And they're like, well, let's put our founder on the panel.
We can sponsor an episode.
So we have different sponsorship packages.
This isn't me like trying to milk money from people.
I haven't, nobody's taken me up on this yet.
It's just, hey, if you're really dead set on coming and being on the show, we offer this as an opportunity.
Again, if you're dead set and you want to be on the show, here's an opportunity.
Otherwise, it's just, that's the option, or it's just a flat out, we have to, we can't put you on the show.
So it is what it is.
Let me pull it up, though.
Don't be modest.
Listen, he's got a great show.
People want to be on it.
Sorry, not.
And I'm not like, just to make something clear, like, if you're a smaller creator, there's nothing, like, some people like to, oh, you only have 10,000 followers.
You're lame.
It's not that.
It's just a practicality thing.
Like, how many people would love the opportunity to go on Joe Rogan podcast and they have they're not particularly notable and they have 5,000 followers?
You could line up a million people that would love the opportunity to get that kind of exposure on Joe Rogan, but the sheer fact that like Joe Rogan has probably a screening process, not everybody's going to get to go on a major show.
Who else is really big?
I don't know.
Mr. Beast, I would love to collaborate with Mr. Beast.
The reality is, is that my audience size is nowhere near approaching comparable to his.
Like he would probably want to collaborate with somebody who the whole point of collaboration typically is to, you know, you exchange your audience a little bit.
So, and also, okay, let me find, let me try to find the DMs.
Okay, I'm just because.
Sorry, I had a question for you, actually.
So, yes.
You said you were saving yourself till marriage.
So does saving yourself for marriage mean like doing nothing physically intimate at all until you're married?
Or?
Hold on.
Let me, we'll come back to that.
I'll just read the messages.
So he messaged me back in May saying he debated destiny.
And then he says, it'd be cool to go on and teach men to date with the intention of marriage and why the red pill guys are a bunch of cucks.
Okay.
I think he sounds great.
Just kidding.
So, but like, if you're, do you consider, if you consider me red pill, if you are in your first message, your solicitation to come be on the show is by calling me or people that I associate with cucks.
My dude, like, you need to have a bit of grace when you are soliciting to come into someone's studio and be on their show.
Like, step one of getting onto a podcast.
Do not insult the person who you are asking to let you on the podcast.
It's how to win friends and influence people.
Very simple shit.
Let me read the rest here.
And then we respond.
We gave you a response, by the way.
We didn't just leave you on red.
We told you, hey, man, and we give a, like when we turn people down, it's a very polite, hey, thank you for your message.
Unfortunately, we're just, you know, we get so many messages.
We can't accommodate everybody.
So I said currently we're not accepting applications.
And then you started arguing with me about my polite rejection.
Brother, you need to learn how to handle rejection way better.
And then I didn't respond to you.
And then in August, you said I'm a dork who invites whores on your show for clickbait.
Just continue to affirm these type of whore women.
Excuse me.
Dorks are six feet.
So you've proceeded.
Is it any surprise I didn't give you a heartfelt invitation to the studio when you're calling me, you're insulting me at home.
And then you're calling the women.
Listen, I invite women on who I disagree with.
But bro, if you're like, come on, brother.
It's I don't want to invite a guy on who's just going to sit across from women and call them whores, you know?
Let's see what else.
And then you just continue, you continue.
These are the receipts.
This is the T right here.
Let's see what else.
Drama.
I think you're pointing to the bottom.
That's schooled them.
I mean, it's obvious.
I don't have any issues with this guy, but look, at the end of the day, when it comes to collaboration, there needs to be comparable level or excuse me, comparable audience size.
And again, step one of getting on a podcast.
Don't insult the person who would invite you on the podcast.
Very simple.
Okay.
Moving on.
Sorry, I ranted there for way too fucking long.
Marshall.
Oh, okay.
This one.
Wait, did he send two?
They sent to, okay, see, and he's like, he's publicly, okay, we got it.
Cool.
Let's see.
We have FDG.
Obesity is a disease, not an opinion, a fact.
How do you justify to yourself not only being obese, but also perpetuating the situation?
You could lose 40 pounds and still be fat enough to be plus size and keep your job.
Are you just too lazy to have a healthier lifestyle?
Do you guys want to respond to that?
How do you know that I didn't already lose 40 pounds?
Like, you don't know my weight.
How much do I weigh?
Do you know?
Do you know how much I weighed two months ago?
Like, I feel like fat phobia is so insidious in our society that people are, like, they want to say it's about health, but you just hate fat people.
You don't like fat people.
It's not about.
It's not about what you're talking about, like health and things like that.
You don't give a damn about my health.
You don't care if I'm healthy or not.
You just hate seeing fat people win.
You hate seeing fat people love themselves.
You hate seeing fat people have confidence.
And that's your problem, not mine.
It's giving a little obsession because for you to sit there and say that I'm not healthy.
I mean, respectfully, I was a competitive figure skater for 13 years at 212 pounds.
And did that mean that I was getting gold medals this entire time, competing against girls who were half my weight, just meant I was twice as strong as they were.
We were doing the same jumps.
We were doing the same spin.
People weren't considering me to be an athlete, even though I was.
I still daily work out.
I hit the gym regularly.
I observe a healthy lifestyle.
I intermittent fast.
So the problem, I think, what you're reaching at is assuming that just because the way you look equals to what your health is.
And I feel like that's where we need to get away from it because whatever tribe I was from, they just, they carry weight just a little differently.
That's like assuming, and I say this all the time, that someone from Thailand is the same as someone from Samoa.
Those are two different body types and they're both justified.
You're not going to look at someone who's from Samoa and be like, well, you should be smaller.
Why?
Because someone else, no, we each, respectfully, are just a little different.
And I would love to see what you look like.
Yeah.
I would like sneakers.
I would like to reply.
Mine's a little bit different.
So obesity is a disease.
That is a fact.
I truly believe that your size in your body is a symptom of what is going on inside.
And other factors, like kind of she said, there's genetic factors.
There's also influencing factors or factors that influence and maybe make the condition worse.
So I truly believe that obesity is not just a cosmetic topic.
It is also a health topic.
And I also believe that we should support and respect people who are obese.
But I truly believe that we shouldn't necessarily advocate for people to become obese and big and big and big and have that be something that's like super, super celebrated.
But we also shouldn't disrespect people who are big because there's a lot to their story.
There's a lot of factors.
But yeah, that's my take into it.
I disagree because we are all so focused.
That's what I mean.
It stems from fat phobia and people hating fat people because if people cared about health, the people who are dying of anorexia, dying of bulimia, having all these eating disorders are so thin, they're celebrated for their sickness.
They're literally dying because they're starving.
And people are congratulating them because of how much weight they lost, how thin they look.
Oh, they're doing great.
Like even doctors, like our medical system is fat phobic.
Like every time I'll go in for, I don't know, an eye infection, you know, you need to lose weight.
Like, okay?
But they don't say that to thin people who are literally dying of being too thin.
They just assume.
But that doesn't mean that being obese cannot put you in a higher risk, only because they don't concern the other end of the spectrum.
So me, like, I've had anorexia before.
I've been sick and I've been in a recovery when I lost a lot of weight when I was 13.
And me, being obese, has cost me a lot of symptoms, a lot of stomach issues.
So I'm not going to be here and say that being obese doesn't mean that you're not a higher risk.
You are in a higher risk to put, have joint pains, have asthma, stretch marks.
You know, those are symptoms that your skin is going through trauma.
Those are, like, there's facts, there's signs behind it.
Fat phobia, that's a different topic, right?
That's, that is true.
There are people who treat you different because you're fat.
I've, or I'm fat.
I've had people treat me different because I'm fat.
Look at me.
They're treating themselves different because exactly.
And so there is like some discrimination because of how we look.
But again, you are right.
Like being anorexic is not healthy.
Just how I feel like being more morbidly obese is not healthy.
Both of them are not healthy.
But only because they celebrate those who are anorexia doesn't mean that, you know, doesn't give us the weight room or like people who are struggling with a lot of severe issues for being obese doesn't mean that, hey, we should be celebrated too in that way.
We should be celebrated for who we are, not just because we're fat.
You should celebrate me.
No, there's a lot more than our size.
Do you have a quick response to her?
I hear what you're saying, but unfortunately, the world that we live in, it's really not about health.
People are not talking about your health because they don't care about you.
They care about how you look and they're offended that you look that way.
They're feeling good about yourself.
And feel good about if you're a fat person with confidence who loves yourself, people are offended because you shouldn't love yourself.
Well, yeah, but sorry, I'm about to curse.
But like, what I'm saying is, like, like people, fat phobia is really ingrained in our society.
It's insidious.
It's destroying lives.
And people want to hide it under this disguise of you need to be healthy.
You're a stranger on the internet.
You do not care about my health.
Let's cut that.
Cut the shit.
You're just trying to justify your hatred towards fat people.
And I feel like our society, and like, yes, some people may have good intentions.
Like, oh, you, you know, you should lose weight for your health.
Fine.
But why is it that nobody is even paying attention to people who are literally wasting away in silence?
Like, there are women, men.
Talking like anorexia?
Yes, they're wasting away in silence because nobody's giving them any attention because their looks don't severely offend society.
They don't care.
Who's that girl?
She's like a YouTuber.
Oh, yeah.
What's her name?
She's with an E?
No.
She's like proper anorexic.
And she has to like eat.
She like does a journal of what she's going to eat that day.
I don't know, but I saw a video recently and like she got, she was like, yo, people were definitely not in favor of anorexia.
Like people have changed.
I think anorexia, like you look, people are pretty harsh on that too, I think.
They are.
I think.
But just to move, keep things moving a little bit.
We have a response to you guys.
She says, no, I'm a doctor.
I care.
What does it mean?
You're not my doctor, so you don't care about me.
That's the thing, though.
She just said that.
Like, we'll go into a doctor for something that's completely not related to anything.
And they'll just assume by looking at you, like, I went to a doctor to become legal.
And he was like, to become legal?
To carry my medical card.
Oh, cannabis.
And he was like, it was like, you know, he was like, well, have you considered diet?
Have you considered exercise?
Yes, sir.
I hit the gym every day.
Like, I eat.
I'm a pescatarian.
So, like, him just looking at me, he would make an assumption based on my whole thing is like, I don't promote obesity.
I think that you should be working out.
I think you should be definitely trying to eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle.
That being said, what you are today, why hate yourself?
Why can't you love yourself as you are right now?
No matter if it's obese, no matter if it's super skinny, and continue to work to be a better person in general, because that's what we're here to do, anyways, on earth.
Why don't we not work to be a better person, but still love who we are right now?
Like, I cannot sit here and hate myself because you guys don't like the way I look and hate how I'm dressed and hate everything about myself now, so you guys can be happy about a future me.
I could die tomorrow, and then what?
I hated myself.
I agree.
I feel like people need to let people have the space to live their life as they are now.
Like, yeah, I may not be the ideal size for you to like how I look or whatever, but that doesn't mean that I need to be bombarded every single day about, oh, you need to lose weight, you need to lose weight.
Like, what kind of life is that when everybody has an unsolicited opinion about how your body looks and how your body should be just because they think it's not right?
Like, and it usually has to do with self-hatred, just like when people, like, when guys are not like cool with gay guys, it's usually the underlying facet.
Like, maybe you're actually attracted to it, and I usually think it's a projection.
They don't like it in themselves, so they're going to sit there and make you feel bad about it.
And I don't feel bad, and I don't either.
All right, we have a chat here, Austin Smith.
Brian, you should do the same show in Thailand for a special episode.
You could easily get girls on Tinder there.
What's stomping you?
Also, that boo hat is hilarious.
Madison, turn to the side so they can see the boo hat.
It's so cute.
I think it's a good idea.
Other way, a Dragon Ball Z reference.
Majin Boo.
This is Madison Vu.
Yeah, that's cute.
There you go.
Cool.
That's cute.
Thank you, man.
Thailand.
I mean, I would love to.
I've always thought about taking the show on the road on tour, hit different cities, whether that's in the U.S., take it to Europe, take it to Southeast Asia.
But I mean, that's, I don't know, maybe in the future, but it's already enough work and difficult enough doing it locally here.
It'd be cool to do a tour bus, though, hit different cities, get different perspectives.
Also, I mean, do it in Thailand.
Specifically.
Do Thai women fluent in English?
I suspect not.
I mean, most countries they have to learn English, though.
So they might know a little bit more than we would know.
Thailand.
There's my PSA.
Thailand has a slight language of anybody.
Oh, Maddie over here is Thai, right?
Oh, wait, Sawadiqua.
Do you speak it also?
I don't speak it.
Oh, okay.
I don't really understand.
I think Sawadiqua means like think that.
Literally, English is my only.
You're 100% Thai?
I'm full Asian.
Good times.
All right, we have Brandon Mels.
What's up, guys?
To the lady in front of Brian.
If a man is going to financially support you completely, what exactly do you bring to the table?
I love that feminist.
Why would I want to pay for your life?
Well, we actually have a video of you that may play first, and then you can.
Go, Gabby.
Let it.
Hold on.
Let's just wait.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, Nick, can you move us up?
I love the natural.
They just make sure they're not.
Oh, yeah.
I do all my videos in bed.
This is the Broke Boy anthem.
So, what do you bring to the table?
Babe, if you're a grown man and you're asking me what I bring to the table, yeah, you're broke, you're a bum, and you clearly are saying that's like another way of saying, but I need you to pay half the bills, Gabby.
I need you to pull your weight around here.
But my thing is, I only date providers, I only date men who can and is able to provide for me.
So, a real man, a man that I would be interested in, he wouldn't be asking me all that.
He wouldn't be asking me what I bring to the table.
I am the table.
I show up.
I be me, right?
That's what I offer.
I'm there.
That's how you know I'm interested.
I don't need to show interest by paying for half the date.
I just need to show up for you to know that I'm interested, okay?
And I'll know when you're interested, when you're paying.
When you're paying.
You're paying for things.
Do you want to add anything to the video, or does that pretty much?
I mean, I just feel like the only guys who have ever asked me what I bring to the table are guys who cannot afford me.
And that's okay.
Because, guys, when I date guys that can't afford me, I never, ever, ever hear them question what I bring to the table.
They just do.
And I like that.
Sure.
I guess aside from dismissing, you know, let's say these, all these men that are asking you what you bring to the table, they are, they're, they're broke, they can't afford you.
But, I mean, let's, let's say the question's in good faith, right?
What, what would you say you do bring to the table?
I can answer that if it's in good faith, but I'm used to answering broke boys.
So, this is not for the broke boys.
Not for the broke boys.
Yeah, so I bring femininity.
I bring support.
I make a house a home.
I'm a real Renaissance woman.
I cook.
I clean.
I love kids and babies.
I want to have a bunch of them.
I am, I will make your life better.
I will multiply what you bring.
Like, you multiply your money, multiply your funds, like, you know, have things together so that you feel more supported as a man.
Like, as you're going out and breadwinning and taking care of our family financially, I'm going to make you feel better about yourself and about your mission and what you're doing because we're together as a family.
We're together as a team.
And I'm supporting my 50% is my support as your woman, your wife.
And I feel like that you get so much more than just what you're giving.
Like, you may be giving like the money part, the financial part.
You may be taking care of us in that way.
Well, I'm taking care of our family in another way.
And I feel like that is in a sense 50-50 because we're working as a team.
We're getting all our needs done.
We're getting everything taken care of together.
But you have to come with something.
I can't work with nothing.
So that was a great answer.
Okay.
Okay.
So she said a table.
She is the table.
I am the table.
You are the table.
Yep.
And we're sturdy too.
Solid foundation.
So we have so many more videos to get to.
So I'm going to try to run through it quickly.
Are you guys familiar with the delusion calculator?
Have you heard about that?
Oh, I've never had anything to do with that.
Tell me more.
So, Nick, are you able to pull up the calculator?
So it's a calculator.
You input, and I'd be really curious to see what all of you put in.
So let me read this really quick from Flan Life.
What does the panel think about the toxicity of the body positive movement?
Example number one: Adele lost a great deal of weight and was subsequently labeled fat phobic by some of her fans.
I guess your reaction to the whole Adele losing weight thing and then people are going to say what they're going to say.
I'm pretty sure, like, personally, I don't mind it.
Like, whatever.
Like, you're gonna, you're gonna not like me because I'm this, you're not gonna like me because of that.
There's always gonna be someone who not like you that her real fans are not gonna sit there and not like her because she lost weight.
They're gonna care about her vocals and their songs she's making.
I was just worried about her vocals, to be honest, because you know, they say it's it ain't over till the fat lady sings.
I was just worried about, oh my gosh, can she sing?
Can she still sing?
Can she still carry that baritone vibes and like her voice?
That's all I was worried about.
I honestly didn't have a problem with her losing weight.
She's doing what's best for her.
I don't think it's an issue.
I just think that people should not have like such an outrageous opinion on others' bodies.
Like, if you do what you want with your body, like, who am I to tell you how to live your life?
You want to be fat?
Do that.
You want to be thin?
Do that.
As long as you're healthy, you're not harming, you're taking care of yourself.
That's fine.
You want to be broke?
Do that.
But he asked about the toxicity of the body positivity movement.
And I would say, would you guys consider yourselves like part of the body pot?
Like, do you.
I do.
Do you think being plus size or being overweight that's kind of part of body positivity?
No, it's loving yourself.
Yeah.
I think it relates a lot to fatter people because, you know, body, because again, fat phobic, fat phobia is ingrained in our society.
So body positivity came up so that we can accept and love our fat bodies when society has rejected us for generations.
So it came in a point where we're like done feeling bad about our bodies and we wanted something for ourselves.
And that's why the body positivity movement started so that we can have that support group.
And I know when I first became a model, first of all, I didn't know that I could be a model.
Like I didn't know that there was so much thing as a plus-size model.
So when that was like that opportunity was afforded to me, that's when I feel like I've joined a group of beautiful, you know, big, plus-size, fat women where I felt supported in my body type without feeling bad about myself.
And I feel like the body positivity movement has evolved into a point where it's now a fat acceptance movement.
And, you know, people want to be, you know, fat liberated versus just body positivity.
Because, again, we're trying to get rid of this fat phobia that's been ingrained in our society.
So the fat acceptance liberation movement is now where we're coming where we're like being unapologetic about our bodies.
Is that what it's called?
The fat acceptance liberation movement.
Fat acceptance liberation movement.
I've got an abbreviation.
Liberate.
I don't know.
Liberate from what's being liberate from what we're doing.
From oppression.
Yeah, I guess from the oppression of the diet culture.
Liberated the diet culture.
Liberated from salads?
Well, no, like they society deems liberty.
They deem what you can wear, what you can say, where you can go.
Like you don't even go certain places.
Like, for instance, on certain rides, yeah.
Or in the plane, you might be uncomfortable.
Like, you mean like carnival?
Like roller coasters.
You can't, you can't be past like what, 250 or something like that.
Well, I think that's like probably for safety.
And I don't trust those rinky digg rides anyways.
Like, I'm, I wouldn't, I don't want to go on any of that shit either.
I've seen some crazy ass videos, but I know.
I got a lot of people.
But that's probably, don't you think that's just like a physics thing?
Like, it's not.
I mean, they could make it bigger.
They could.
There are bigger people.
They should just redo the ride.
America's getting fatter by the day.
Why not adjust to the times?
It's just like when I go to old theaters on Broadway in New York, the seats are like child size.
I'm like, there's no way a regular thin person could fit this.
Like it's like child size.
So and it was made back in like the 20s or something.
So like, you know, people have gotten bigger.
Maybe you should make the seats bigger, especially on planes.
And it's not for me, I don't have an issue with like plane seats, but I'm tall.
So my knees, if you're a tall person on a plane, that sucks because your knees are like in the next person's chair.
You're really uncomfortable.
And it's like, it's, you know, height two.
So well, I think we can all agree, plus size or not, airplane seats suck.
Yeah.
They suck.
It's not a lot of space.
And they give you suck.
Over the years, they've gotten smaller and smaller stuff.
And the service has gotten, they used to give you meals.
They don't even give you water anymore for free.
I'd pay $6 for water.
No, you shouldn't be able to share shit.
$6 for a water bottle on a flight.
Highway rats were airlines.
Yeah, right.
Well, it's okay.
All of them have been on the, that they charge.
No, you got to get some water to fill it.
Well, I do.
But when it comes to the body positivity movement, I'm pretty sure the origins of that movement were: it wasn't about people who were overweight or plus size, or it was about people who had like body deformities and that were not in their control.
Disabled.
I didn't hear about it until the end of the day.
Like if you had a scar or something, or you had like a, you were an amputee, that was body positivity.
But I mean, when it, I don't, that's my understanding of the origins of body positivity.
But then it, my understanding, it kind of got co-opted by plus size because I was around plus size people.
So I didn't know that that wasn't a thing.
I think that was the origin story.
It was so liberating, though.
The moment that you were taught, the moment that I was, what I got to learn that, like, I am beautiful as is.
Like, that was like such an amazing feeling to know that, like, as I am, I'm good enough for somebody.
You know what I mean?
And before, like, no matter how much I worked out, didn't matter what I did.
I didn't feel like I was good enough because of what everyone else had an opinion about what I was doing.
Never mind the fact that I was competitive as an ice skater.
Never mind that I was actually physically an athlete.
Didn't look at it.
Do we have videos?
Are there videos?
Yeah, go to my Instagram.
Nick, if you're able to pull that up, go ahead and pull it up.
I just went like to what last week.
I go all the time.
Yeah.
You were a professional ice skater?
I was professional.
Well, professional means you get paid.
Actually, I was on Old Navy.
You were a very good ice skater.
I was professional as well because I got paid in all the people.
I did Old Navy too.
Yeah, so I was there at Chubby Ice Skater.
I did T-Mobile.
I did Tinder.
At what point do you guys think there was this shift where these companies were more open to working with plus-sized people?
Was it like 2016, 2016?
The Domain.
I think when Ashley Graham hit the covers of Sports Illustrated, Ashley Graham, she's one of the most famous plus-size models.
And she hits the fuck is that guy?
Sorry, I'm not sure.
She's the most famous, like not the most, but literally famous.
You'd give her a chance.
She's one of the most famous plus-size models.
And she hit the cover of Sports Illustrated, which has been known for as a men's magazine for like decades, and they only feature size zero women.
And she's a size 16, 18.
Yeah, she's a size 16.
She's a Sports Illustrated gun.
But my friend Veronica Palm is also on it.
Shout out to Veronica.
You did so good.
You're on Sports Illustrated too.
She's also plus water in New York.
I love Sports Illustrated.
Well, Ashley Graham opened the doors.
Wow, they feature a lot of plus-size women, but I don't know about the bankruptcy.
We have your ice skating video.
Let's pull it up.
I've got a bunch of them.
What do you want?
There's one right there, that third one right there, of me falling.
Go up.
You want to watch that one?
I like the one indoor.
Let's do both.
We'll do both.
We'll do indoor and then the fall.
Go ahead.
This is for Doja.
I love you, baby.
If you can move it.
Wait, you got to play the music.
X out, X out.
X out.
Oh, my God.
Move us over.
Move us over.
And let's get some music going.
This is for Doja.
I love you.
You're doing that.
We love Doja.
Doja Cat.
Doja Cat.
Make Mama Proud.
No, no, no, no.
Nick, mute it.
Mute it.
Mute it.
No, don't mute it.
Mute it, mute it, mute it.
Fucking Nick.
Oh, just joking.
So this is me doing it TikTok.
So obviously I'm not skating as much there.
But if you go to the one above, you can see that.
That's impressive still.
Okay, all right.
What do you call that?
What movie?
That's a scratch spin.
A scratch what?
A scratch spin.
Oh, scratch spin.
Okay, Nick.
Play the one.
Play the one above.
Yeah, that one.
That one's fun.
You can't play the music of this one either.
No, we can't.
Well, they say, this is why they don't let me play at weddings anymore.
And then it's like romantic music.
Sometimes get in the way.
You just want to show them feeling for you.
Ding.
And then it goes.
Where is this?
Is that a thing?
Dun-da-da-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
Haram!
Dun-da-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
Oh.
Haram!
Where is that?
That was downtown Los Angeles at the pike, at the, at not Pike.
It's Metro, the Metro station downtown.
I don't know.
It's the one they have outdoors, not the LA Live one.
And actually on New Year's this last year, in the middle of the night, I took my skates because I've got obviously my own skates and I went skating for New Year's.
Yeah, I've got bombs.
That's also on my page, but I went skating in the middle of the night on New Year's because I sold some ice time.
Okay.
Good times.
You're good.
You're very talented ice skater.
Thank you.
I can dance too.
Nick, if you're able to pull up the video, one of the first videos from the trying to do you know what I'm talking about, Nick?
This went viral like two years ago, so this is a little faded, but I think.
No, Oh, I had a video go viral as well for ice skating.
They were all surprised when I was fighting for a while.
It's like the first video.
They were all surprised.
They're surprised when fat people do anything.
They get like 600,000 views on TikTok.
Amazing.
They thought I pushed it on green.
She's crazy.
Who is that?
Have you guys seen this video?
No.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Hey, Bestie.
You're wrong.
I think it's time for another adult pre-K lesson.
What do you think?
All right.
Turn your listening ears on.
You catch a bubble in your mouth.
Good job.
Okay, here's the thing.
Having a preference is something like, I'm looking for a partner who likes kayaking or wakes up early in the morning or loves pizza.
But when your preferences exclude an entire group of marginalized people, that's problematic.
Okay, that's not nice.
That's not a preference.
If you lump all fat people in one group together as though they are not very different individuals, that's fat phobic.
Just like lumping all black people in one group and saying, I don't like black people is racist.
And lumping all disabled people in one group and saying, I don't think people in wheelchairs are hot is ableist.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I disagree.
No.
I don't think it's fair to have, to kind of get down on people when it comes to their preference in dating because this is a person that you have to live with, you have to sleep with, you have to make meals with.
Like, if you're going to have to ingrain this person into your personal life, they should be of the same mindset or same values of you, or you're going to have problems.
Like, how are you going to be with someone that you're not attracted to, that you don't get along with, that you have different religious beliefs, things like that.
And I feel like it's okay to have a preference or to discriminate when it comes to your dating preferences because you're ingraining your whole life.
You're giving up your life pretty much to be with this person to create a life with this person.
So no, I disagree when it comes to dating.
When it comes to other things, jobs, you know, things like that, yeah, that's messed up.
You shouldn't discriminate when it comes to other things.
But your personal relationship, yes, you can have a preference.
I agree.
Gotcha.
So do you think, for example, someone who didn't want to date somebody who was plus size or overweight, you disagree that you disagree that it's not discriminatory.
It's not fat phobic.
No, because I've had guys tell me that I am that they're not sexually attracted to me and they wouldn't date me or be with me.
And that makes me so happy because I can avoid them and I can use my time and my energy to guys that actually like my body type and how I look.
And you don't have to change yourself.
Yeah, and then I waste less time.
Like again, I'm a time person.
Don't waste my time.
So if you, if you told me up front, I'm not your type and you don't like the way I look, great.
Thank you so much for being honest up front and not wasting my time.
I'll go on to the next.
Yes.
So I would like to talk about this.
So there's a way I organize attractiveness.
So think about a triangle, right?
And there's three corners.
The first one is appearances.
This is basically what is visible to the eye.
This includes your body shape, how you look, your clothing, your mannerism.
The other point is basically your character.
It involves who you are as an individual, your personality, introvert, extrovert, you know, your attitude, stuff like that.
And then the third one is basically social status.
That basically means what is the amount of value you add to society?
And that includes your career, how much money you make, the influences.
And then this triangle of attractiveness is within a circle.
And that circle is called preferences.
Within preferences, there's the norm, right?
Like the beauty standards, what majority of the people would say thumbs ups to.
And then there's those like exceptions or outliers.
And this is kind of like how I view attractiveness.
And you need to score high on all three of them within the person's preferences in order for them to see you as attractive and for them to want to pursue something with you.
And everyone has a right to choose who they want to be because you're going to have intimate intercourse with someone.
So how they look matters.
You know, some people like people who are more like chocolate.
Some people don't.
Like, you know, so I feel like everyone deserves to have that preference.
And that's my take on it.
Can I just ask, what is there to be said with, like, I've had this happen where I fell in love with a guy who I wasn't necessarily attracted to when I first met.
And then over time, getting to know him and his personality and whatnot, I found him to be the most attractive guy because I fell in love with him.
Yeah, that happens.
You know what I mean?
Like maybe they're, so I don't honestly all the time look for if I find them to be physically attractive.
There's going to be things that obviously I'm going to be, it's going to be a no-go, but they're just like where men, you've got a wider range.
I'm going to have a range of unattractive and attractiveness level based on how you treat me because if you have a gorgeous guy who acts like a dick, he's not going to be attractive.
If you have a guy that's mediocre and acts amazing, he's going to be fine as fuck.
Yeah.
Like that's just, and that's how I'm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of like going back to those three things, right?
Your appearances, your character, and your social status.
Some people care more about the social status.
Do you make this amount of money?
Okay, then I can, you know, you're kind of ugly, but whatever.
The money covers that, right?
So everyone has their preferences and everyone kind of within those three, they kind of choose which one is more important for them, you know.
And some people compromise, some people choose not to.
Some people are pickier.
Some people are not.
They're very open to anything.
So.
Okay.
We, let's see.
So.
I would categorize it a preference, though, to what she said.
I think that it is a preference and I think that that's okay.
Right.
I think what that sounded like to me is I'm sad because I'm not in your preference.
Yeah.
Which is that, I mean, that's okay, but you have to stop, stop running after the person who doesn't want you and stop so the people who want you can catch up.
And there's so many people who want you.
I don't care how you look.
There is people who want you.
Focus on them.
And I tell women on my TikTok all the time, date men who like you.
Don't stop wasting your time with guys.
Don't text you back.
Don't call you back.
Like just stringing you off.
For what?
You look good, girl.
Go find you a man that likes you.
And I will say, only because you don't see yourself dating them, you still need to respect them as a human being, right?
That's where fatphobia comes in and all the other stuff coming, racism and all that stuff.
Just respect them.
If they're not your type, then move on.
Don't waste my time.
Yeah, I think kind of where she's kind of getting at the video we just reacted to, it almost felt like a defense mechanism for trying to justify why she's lonely.
Yeah.
She had some good points, you know what I mean?
But the thing is, is that it still came from a place where it seemed like it was hurt.
And that's the problem.
If once we get to a point where I don't need to be hurt by these outside outliers, I won't have to necessarily care if anyone's judging me.
Right.
Yeah, of course, I think you were saying, I don't know if it was, if it was Gabby or you, but of course, I think treating people who are overweight with either hate or disgust or calling names, shaming them, I think that's highly inappropriate.
But on the other hand, I don't think like obesity should be glorified.
Agree.
And that's the thing that the problem that I have with like self-love or kind of like what you said is like, is your body do whatever you want?
I totally disagree with that because there is a limit.
Like if I truly love one of my like my siblings and I see that she's doing things to her body that might cause her a lot of risk or something, I'm gonna be like, you know what?
Let's talk.
Let's have this conversation out of love.
So no, I don't believe that, oh, it's your body, do whatever you want.
Can you?
Yeah, you have the free will.
But with the people that I love close to me, that does not like if you want to cut yourself, no, don't do that.
Like we're not going to do that.
You know, there's a limit to that.
And we want to come in a place of like, you need help.
Let's talk about it.
But I feel like saying, hey, you know, you're big.
Keep eating more.
Keep eating more.
When you know that they're struggling with that, probably telling them, oh, keep doing it might not be the best way to show them love.
It's like, hey, let's talk.
Who's hurting you?
What's going on?
What's going inside your heart, your mind?
And every, and just kind of care about them.
Go to the root of the issue instead of just putting a beautiful band-aid on it and saying, oh, yeah, you look beautiful.
Go do whatever you want or something like that.
But I also don't think it's beneficial to hate yourself.
You shouldn't hate yourself because you're big.
You need to be, yeah, there's a balance.
You need to be like, love yourself.
I want to say something on that, though.
As somebody who currently needs to lose like 20 pounds, I kind of want to be body shamed.
Like, I want my chat.
I want the people in my chat to be like Pudgy Brian.
Brian, you're Pudgy.
Lose some fucking weight.
Tell me I need to lose weight because I'm probably not body shampoo.
I want to lose some weight.
I used to have a six-pack.
I used to have a six-pack.
Now I don't.
But they've done research.
I want someone to invite me.
Like, hey, let's go.
Let's go get to the keywords.
Siblings and close friends.
Please body shape.
I shouldn't say that shaming.
Sure.
That's my sibling.
Some random doctor I don't know in the chat.
Who are you?
But no, why does your opinion matter on how FDG?
She can, FDG, you can shame me.
Anybody?
You can't shame me, FDG.
I don't know who you are.
Please body shame me.
I kind of recognize you.
Pudgy Brian.
I want to see Pudgy Brian in the chat.
I did want to say something about this.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you off, but I was a obese child.
I'm not sure if you guys were too.
And sometimes I do look back and I tell like my parents, I'm like, you saw me this big.
Like, didn't you kind of like, you know, teach me about how to eat better?
Like, I wish you could have done something when I was younger.
I wish I could have learned more.
You know, and I was like, I felt like you just didn't care.
And I felt like I wish there was people to tell you, hey, like, you're not, this is, this is over and over again as a kid.
Literally, that was my entire life.
I was on Slim Fast at age 11.
I was an athlete and then they all called me fast.
Who puts an 11-year-old on Slim Fast?
Yes.
That's toxic.
Jenny Craig.
Weight Watchers?
Weight Watchers.
They're like 10.
I mean, I ended up trying to go like on pills and having shots in my ass trying to meet this standard because I'm at the bottom.
That's that phobia.
And my teacher.
My teacher literally in college, and I love him.
He's dear, but he told me your face works against your body.
Your face says ingenue and your body says character.
So for you to be able to make it or do anything in Hollywood, you're going to have to make them match up.
So either I'd have to get uglier or I'd have to get thinner.
So at that point, he was like, ask one of the, you know, one of the girls in your class what she's doing.
She's lost a lot of weight.
I asked her.
She said, I stopped eating.
So I was like, okay, I'll stop eating.
So I stopped eating.
I lost some weight.
Then the first time I ate, I gorged and I could not throw up.
Okay, so I'm over here and now I'm gorging.
I can't throw up.
Yes, I'm binging.
And so that didn't work for me.
I wasn't able to be anorexic because bulimia doesn't work and that's what they lead to.
So I wasn't allowed to do this, but still negating the fact that I'm in dance class every day.
I can do the splits.
Like I'm dancing.
I've got more athleticism than the next person that I'm being compared to.
Why should I chase that?
I'm not saying that you should not try to be healthy, but in today, you need to learn how to love yourself in the day.
You know what I mean?
And people who are coming, they're not your family who are telling you, hey, look at your weight.
Hey, look at what you're doing.
These people are sitting there telling me these things.
They have no idea what I'm doing day to day.
And just to assume that, that's already a problem.
Well, that's what I said from the beginning.
They wanted you to lose weight for cosmetic reasons.
But that's the thing.
Losing weight is not just about how you feel.
It has to be about your health.
They're telling me it's health.
Meanwhile, on one leg, I can go down and go all the way up.
That's what they would say all my whole entire life.
So it's like it doesn't matter at the end of the day, someone's still going to judge you based on your look, no matter what you actually do physically.
So I'm not promoting anything.
I'm just saying, I, as I am, want to love who I am today.
That's what, yes, I want to work towards getting better.
Yes, I want to see where that goes.
But I just want to love who I am.
I want to love who I am today.
I don't want to love who I am today.
I think self-love is loving yourself with things you cannot control and the flaws you have.
But also, self-love is not going into very, very bad habits.
Yeah, not going into bad habits that can have consequences.
Whether that looks like gaining weight, whatever that looks like, because everyone's situation is different.
That's self-love to me.
I would date a chubby Asian woman.
Yeah, we know.
You said we know.
Is there any chubby chubby Asian women on here?
We meet you.
Right in the chat.
One.
Yeah, we'll do the calculator.
Oh, before calculator, do Twitch.
Then we'll do calculator.
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Okay, so let's do the calculator.
Okay.
This is the delusional calculator.
Okay.
All right.
So what are the chances to find the man of my dreams?
So we're going to scroll down here.
So we're going to start with, actually, I think we need, can you put it on the other side?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Perfect.
Age for you.
27.
Age range.
Can you give us an age range?
Of the men.
Like the men you want that I want?
Yeah.
Yeah, like right now, right?
From what age to what age?
I typically try not to date men under 30.
So I would say 30 to 46, 45.
Okay.
I assume exclude married men.
I don't want them to be married.
Okay.
I don't know why that's even an option.
Because some women don't care, just like some men don't care.
Yeah, it's gross.
I just feel like most women say exclude married.
Race.
I don't really care.
I mean, I care when we get to the nitty-gritty.
And if you're like, you have racist roots or something, I can't deal.
But like, I'm not going to judge you in the beginning.
If I get to know that you can't handle being with a black woman, then it's over anyways.
But we'll just say any color or shade.
In terms of what you want, right?
Your preference.
Yeah, this is your preference.
Oh, who am I going to try to do?
You'll marry everybody.
We'll keep it any color.
Minimum height.
Six.
Minimum height, six feet.
Gosh, I really want to say.
Well, you're tall, right?
You're tall.
I'm 5'10, and in heels, I'm 6.
In heels, she's 6'.
In heels, I'm 6'3.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you have a nice pair of pumps at home?
I got some Jimmy Choose and some do you red bottoms?
Can we see a little picture of that?
I got some Steve Madden.
Can we see what?
Actually, fit for them, though, but for the other plex size.
Okay, cool.
I'm totally joking.
But should we exclude obese?
No, I mean, what's considered obese?
Because some people would consider me obese.
So, like, what does obese mean?
Like, I know the BMI.
It depends on how you look.
Do you look good?
Can you get up a flight of stairs?
Yeah.
Can you, are you bedridden?
Like, I can't deal with bedridden.
Like, can you, can you walk?
Can you, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm going to say that's a no to exclude.
You're fine with obese.
Yeah, I'm fine with the American version of obese.
Sure.
Okay.
Minimum income.
Looks about right.
Yeah.
I'd say 200.
Well, I would say 150.
Can I do 150?
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll do 150.
We'll do.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
All right.
Let's find out what my ideal man is.
Yeah.
0.3%.
Unicorns.
Unicorns.
3% of men.
We want unicorns.
Excuse me?
But we're not asking for anything else.
I don't even go that strict on this calculator.
And it's 0.3.
How accurate is this calculator?
Yeah, I question that.
So I would say, when it comes to just height.
So granted, you are a tall woman, but if you're six feet and above, that's only 15% of men.
So immediately, just if you need a guy who's six feet, you've immediately excluded like 85% of men.
And then you factor in the income, which is fairly high.
Yeah.
You're looking at a very small proportion.
If I was a short woman, I wouldn't mind a guy who was shorter.
But if I'm dunking on you, bros, like, I don't know how, you know, I would just feel like, oh, like, let me carry you.
That could be romantic.
It could be.
It could be.
I mean, I once dated a guy who was 5'8, and he literally swept me off my feet.
Not physically, but like he has charm.
Like, short guys have charm, and they're funny, and they can get away, you know, because they have to work a little bit harder on their personality because, you know, a lot of women like tall men.
So when you're shorter, you have to work a little harder, I feel like, on personality.
So there are some great short guys, but I can't deal with little man syndrome, you know, like the Napoleon complex because I feel like a lot of the times when I've tried to date shorter men, they get so angry and bitter when we're out and like people, and I guess other guys are trying to talk to me, other guys are trying to like say something to me, and then they feel inferior because of that.
And then also, like, they're like, if I'm wearing a little bit of a heel, like this much, they'll be like, why are you wearing heels?
Why don't you just wear flats?
And they get all angry about it.
I'm just like, you're going to be short regardless of I'm barefoot or in heels.
So what do you care?
You know, and then I see cute like celebrity couples that are like the guy shorter, like John Legend, and then his wife is like 6'3 or something.
Like they're cute, you know?
So I guess it just depends.
You have to have confidence in yourself.
You can't be insecure.
So besides all the things that we listed there in the calculator, do you have like, I know you said you date anybody, but do you have like a type?
Do you like white boys?
I say I typically date black and Caribbean.
Okay.
Men.
Okay.
Yeah, because that's more of my culture.
Am I kind of your type?
You're my sister's type.
Oh.
Not a close-up on you.
Well, actually, her fiancé and you, I feel like, are similar.
Oh, there's hope.
There's hope for Brian.
Yeah.
I feel like my sister's fiancé kind of like favors you a little.
So I feel like, yeah.
All right.
Hopefully my percentage is better.
I don't know if I can compete with the five other men on the roster, though.
It might be.
Are you like putting your application in?
Just a little banter.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have to get to know.
The thing is, I feel like my.
If we go on a date, though, you have to pay for it.
Oh, God.
Well, then we've already noticed that.
You've already been bottom-pumped off the rocks.
Yeah, when I date white boys, they take extra care of me.
Okay.
So wait, let me paint a scenario here.
Oh, gosh.
I take you to Red Lobster.
Why?
I'm allergic.
I can't.
I take you to Benny Hana.
I love Benny Hana.
They cracked a little egg.
Oh my god.
They cook in front of you.
They do that.
I love Benny Hana's.
The onion train thing.
The volcano.
And then they throw the food in your mouth.
Yes.
But you're paying for it, girl.
So.
Well, here's what.
The check comes.
The waiter comes.
And I say, two checks.
Why?
Like, two chains.
I would do this.
Okay, sweetie.
I'm just going to go to the restroom.
I'll be right back.
Oh, you dip.
You'd run out on me.
You could pay it.
Absolutely.
Especially if you asked me out a date.
Like, you were going to ask me out.
How am I paying it?
You asked me out.
That's crazy.
Why am I out on this date right now?
You know what actually be fun?
What if we filmed a date?
We went on a date.
You're going to lose, though.
College's not paying.
But I'm going to be the most obnoxious.
I'm not going to pull your seat back for you.
I'm going to tell you to take the bus.
So average.
I'm going to.
You average?
That's crazy.
You'll be the first average man.
I did date a guy like that.
It was bad.
They don't move a bicycle.
Don't you think, though, it would kind of like because you'd say most of the guys who you deal with, like, they do all the things you want, right?
Like, they pay for you.
They get you your Uber.
So I would almost be coming in like, who's this mysterious guy who's, or not, am I totally off base here?
Clown.
I mean, it's not a mystery when you date me because I vet you before I let you take me out.
Okay.
So I feel like we're on the same page.
Unless, like, unless I happen to meet you out somewhere that's different.
If I met you online, I'm vetting you a little bit more.
If I met you out, it's a little bit more relaxed.
But I feel like before even the first date, I kind of know the vibe.
And I've been thrown for a loop a couple times.
It was like, wow, I really thought you were different.
So I've been thrown for a loop.
Okay.
So if I were to take you to Benny Hana, but I didn't pay for the check, it's done.
No second date.
What if afterwards I were to take you to the business?
It's like a nice restaurant.
I don't know.
Oh, God.
I mean, we'd split for that date, too.
I would five guys?
Oh, my God.
If you took me to Five Guys after Benny Hanna's, I'd be stuffed from Benny Fannas gives you a lot of stuff.
No, Like a second, not a second.
A second date, and it's at five guys.
What else are we paying for it?
We'd split too.
Why am I splitting at five guys?
You don't have 100%.
Because you want to get to know me for my personality.
Ew.
I mean, I can get to know you over the phone before you want to take me out.
If you feel like you don't want to invest in a first date because you don't know if it's going to go sideways, that's fine.
Let's talk about that.
But if we're soulmates, though.
We're not.
I would say that, Kabby.
If you're not showing out the funds, where's the funds?
Run me my money.
Like, I don't understand.
You know, like, where are the funds?
I was actually hoping that, like, you could continue modeling, and I'm kind of like the stay-at-home dad.
Do you think that could work?
Can you also carry the baby?
I, I, you know, a couple of guys have approached me in that manner.
And, you know, I'm not hating because I know some women prefer that.
I'm just not that woman.
I do best at home.
Me too.
I feel like.
Yeah.
And you just need a career.
Every woman who's going to whip you into shape.
A woman who wears the pants, who controls the, you know, finances and all that, like a boss ass babe.
And I have a boss ass babe, but I can be very soft and feminine with the right man.
I prefer that role.
But some women, yeah, they want a stay-at-home dad.
They want you.
Okay.
I'm just not her.
Okay.
I'm just.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Oh, just a random question.
If a guy came up to you, or if you were talking to this man for a while and he was like, I'm going to fully financially support you, would you like quit your work and everything for that?
Or would you continue to work?
Are we married?
Let's just say dating, but marriage possibly in the future.
Serious.
Like you really, yeah, it's a serious relationship.
I feel like I wouldn't feel secure enough to kind of quit my job unless I was married because I'm guaranteed your money, half of everything you own and things like that.
So I feel like I would feel more secure if we were married so that I know I'm protected and I'm safe in case you want to leave or whatever.
So I would, I would, yeah, I would like, I would be comfortable letting go of a job, being a stay-at-home mom, stay-at-home wife if I knew that I was married and I was guaranteed, you know, some help if things go awry.
I kind of think women should pay for the first date.
Why?
Like, not just split, but I think the women should pay for the first date.
Okay, why?
Well, obviously, it's very nice to be wined and dined as a man, you know.
And I think the way, you know, I just have to show up.
I just take your side.
I just, what I bring to the table, like, I am the table.
What do you bring to the table?
I am the table.
What do you mean, bro?
Listen, listen, okay.
Can I get you pregnant?
We can try.
But you see how that went.
We're going to try.
Let's try.
Do you see how that went work?
Exactly.
My point.
Exactly.
Listen, listen.
It's 2023.
Men can get pregnant.
No, they cannot.
Oh, my God.
You guys don't have the uterus to get pregnant.
No, you don't have hips that expand.
Excuse me.
You guys cannot contain the chemicals it takes to feed the baby while it's in your definition.
I'm offended.
That's science.
You can be offended all you want.
I'm offended.
Be offended.
I'm offended.
Awesome.
Men can get pregnant.
Okay.
In 2023.
Oh, my gosh.
Are you talking about transgender men?
There's X and there's X. There's XX and there's XY, okay?
Unless you are the kind that can get the pregnant, then I don't want to talk to you.
Are you assuming mommy?
No, I'm just saying, unless you are.
I don't know where I'm going.
This conversation.
I'm the one doing it.
At this point, you want to carry her baby.
That's all I'm hearing.
Look, someone's going to be able to do it.
I will carry our child.
In fact.
Oh, God.
Don't grab the brown baby.
I'm the black baby.
I'm the black baby.
Is this racist?
No, I only have two colors.
Grab the black baby.
Look at this.
Why not?
This could be our child, okay?
The computer's.
Why are you treating it like that?
I'm sorry, so sorry.
Like, why would you nurture this ball?
I'm already child abuse.
That's why you don't carry a baby.
We're not getting that.
That's a newborn.
Look how it's shaped.
It's really cute.
It's newborn.
It's like a health class baby.
Here, can I tell you what?
I would consider paying for you on the first date, but I'd like to see you nurture this baby.
Let's see your motherly instincts here.
Okay, Jay Jr.
He's breastcomposed.
Jay Jr. holding my baby respectfully.
That is not it.
Like, my man's not the J. Let's just put it out there, you know?
Like, so Jay Jr., because he's a junior.
Who's the guy who was with the Kardashian woman?
Ray Jay?
Ray J?
Is that a moment?
Like 10 years ago?
Yeah.
After he made the song, I hit it first.
It's fixed.
I don't know how that happened.
No, I don't know.
All right, that's very motherly.
Okay.
I love babies.
Oh, give me a million.
Oh.
Okay, I don't know where that, okay.
Yeah, you do.
Just pay for the date.
But in any case, here, I'll take it.
I'll take that back.
Just not by the heck.
Jesus.
Oh, my God.
My bad.
I just threw it out there.
I have a habit of throwing infants.
Okay, so.
Are you paying for the date?
Was that nurturing enough?
Like, what's going on?
You did say it was nurturing.
We're going to have to speak.
Brian, if you're not willing to invest in your love life, just don't even.
Don't even.
Men are too broke to date these days.
That's what's happening.
They're too broke to date.
And dating is an investment.
If you don't have the funds, stay single, stay at your mama's house.
Or stay in your lane.
You can date a girl who doesn't care.
That's fine.
Everyone's getting where you fit in.
You know what's interesting, though, when it comes, I feel like we're shaming men when it comes to this money thing, you know?
We do the same thing to women.
Everyone's emailing.
Do we?
Do we, though?
How is it shaming, though?
You just prefer something, preference.
Let me bust out a couple musical bits, and maybe I could.
You have a very lovely voice.
Maybe you're familiar with a few of these songs.
Let's go back to the 90s.
We have TLC, no scrubs.
Yep.
I love that.
They had no chicken heads.
They had no 400 million views on YouTube.
It was a good song.
As long as the lyrics go, it's like.
I don't want no scrubs.
Scuba is the guy.
Oh, scrubs?
Scrubs.
No scrubs.
Hanging out of the passenger side of his best friend by trying to holler at me.
I don't want no scrubs.
Scuba's checking me, but his game is kind of weak.
And he knows that he cannot approach me.
Hanging on the passenger side of his best friends.
Try to holler at me.
I love TLC.
Scuba's kind of amazing.
That's great.
Yep.
I know all the words of that song.
That was a hit.
So you have that song.
You have Destiny's Child.
Bill's Bill Cliff.
Can you pay my bills?
Can you pay my telephone bills?
Can you pay my automobile?
Yeah.
I don't think you could.
So you and me are through.
She got it, though.
We've got in the bills.
They had male songs too.
We have Cardi B up.
She says, broke boys.
Broke boys don't deserve no pussy.
And that's right.
I don't feel that way.
Why do you know all these anthems?
Why do you know these broke boys?
I'm about to come out with a broke boy anthem.
Catch them on Spotify.
I'm going to have a broke boy anthem come out.
Let me wrap on it.
See.
Broke boy.
And then.
But see, we got what would be the equivalent?
Chicken head.
There literally was an equivalent.
What would be the equivalent, like the male version of chicken head?
They literally came out with the exact same song.
I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she ain't messing with nobody on Cleveland Brown from Family Down.
I love him.
Y'all are really good ones.
Oh, my goodness.
I love Cleveland.
Cool.
99 for that.
I love Cleveland.
Is that all you guys got?
Can I get an insult, but for a little bit more money?
Hey, Benja the offender.
She wants the heat.
She wants.
But I want more money than 99.
If you're going to insult me, I want like 150.
Oh, she wants the champagne pop, I think.
Pop that bottle.
Send me the funds.
Okay.
Wow.
All right.
All right.
There you have it.
Let's do the calculator for the 1000 right now.
Yeah, go for it.
All right.
Okay.
I would also say 30 to probably 54.
Okay.
All right.
I don't care about the color.
However, they need to be able to understand what I go through daily.
I don't want to be arguing with you about things.
Height, I'll go a cool 5'10.
5'10.
I have been known to do shorter, but 5'10 is like if ideal, if I could pick, yeah.
Yeah, exclude.
Exclude obese.
Yes.
Exclude obes.
Yes.
Even no, I'm plus size and to each their own.
I'm normally generally attracted to me being the soft one and them being the hard one.
That's just like sexy to me.
What if he was like muscular a little bit underneath the yeah?
So that's like a football player, like linebacker.
I like the ones that run or are a basketball player.
You prefer basketball player?
Basketball player or the ones that run really?
Like the ones that quarterbacks.
Oh, oh, okay.
I see, I see.
Yeah, receivers.
Minimum income.
Ideal, like if I'm just picking.
Yeah, I don't know.
I want like this super nerdy like Google guy, like 200.
200.
Okay.
We'll say 200.
But yeah, we'll say 200.
Okay.
All right.
So 0.18%.
That's less than Gabby.
That's the probability of a guy in that pop of that age.
Especially in California.
That meets your standards.
Even worse, yeah.
But to be fair, I'm not.
You just need one.
not asking for anything that I'm not giving.
Like, like, I'm not, I've got things that come with me, and so I'm not asking for anything that I'm not giving.
Like, sometimes I'll do the speed dating thing on TikTok and I'll be like, they'll be like, what's your type?
And I'm like, well, I want someone educated.
I want someone who enjoys their career.
I want someone who's stable in their career.
I want some, like, I'm listening to the things I want.
He made this face, like, oh my God, what, really?
But I also am educated.
I'm also cultured.
I've also, I bring these kinds of things to the table.
I just want someone to match me or be a little bit better because at the end of the day, with the kind of man that I want, I'll end up emasculating them.
They will feel emasculated if I present more than they have.
So I prefer them to have more than me.
That's a fair point.
But you mentioned like ideal type would be like a NFL player.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about body stature.
Just body type.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I mean, my ideal type is going to be a surgeon, is going to be super nerdy, an engineer of some type, something in cybersecurity, just super nerdy.
Like, that's my ideal type.
I want someone really intelligent.
Okay.
All right.
Because if you're intelligent, what can stop you?
You know what I mean?
Sure.
But don't you think that those kind of men have like a lot of optionality?
That's so funny.
Someone else presented that to me and saw it.
They were like, well, this, you want this kind of man.
Aren't you going to want a man who's want this?
Here's the thing.
At the end of the day, there's still going to be a niche, right?
There's going to be the men who make a lot of money who want a woman who is maybe very petite.
She's not very smart.
She doesn't talk a lot.
And she's just kind of pretty, right?
So there's also, right?
But there's also those men who have a lot of money who want a woman who's equally a leader and has all this and that and those kind of things.
So I just feel like, yes, just the same way that people have these things.
Who ends up wanting me is going to be this person that I want as well.
And even if it is a 13%, listen, I've known to win smaller lotteries.
So I'm with the.
And like I said, when you had gone to the bathroom, my life right now, I've accumulated and done everything from myself.
I'm living and I'm happy living.
I've literally found a place where I really genuinely love myself and I'm working on myself to be better.
I don't want anything that's going to take away from that.
So if you're coming into my life, I need you to be adding to that, stacking up on that, or don't come.
Otherwise, you know what I mean?
Because what's the point of even going into it and bringing a life into a family and doing all this stuff with a man who then at the end of the day is not that thing?
Yeah.
I just, I mean, I'm literally giving up everything.
I got everything tight.
Everything's good.
Everything's up.
Now I give all that away for you.
I need to make sure that that's worth it.
And if it's not, then I'm going to keep being tight and doing what I got to do.
Wait, what do you mean by tight?
What are we talking about?
I'm just, I'm talking about just the whole body.
The body.
I'm chubby.
I'm chubby, right?
But like, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I just know I'm tight.
I'm tight.
I'm just, I'm sucked in.
Oh.
I'm, I'm, of course.
I'm chubby, but I'm, I'm, I'm untouched.
I'm not, I don't haven't had any sex.
I didn't say sex, but like.
Has it been a minute?
Has it been a minute?
Celibacy?
I reserve the right to abstain from that.
But yeah, I mean, like, I just, I haven't had any sort of babies.
And I feel like at the end of the day, like, and I don't feel like that makes any woman less than a woman, but I know that when you're talking about, oh, what if a man, sometimes that's something they also don't want.
So I'd be literally giving my all.
Yeah.
Got it.
Sacrificial.
All right.
We're doing.
We'll do the calculator for you.
She's going to have better odds than all of us.
Go ahead.
I don't know.
Okay, Adrian.
So is it 25 to 35?
Okay.
Exclude married, I'm assuming.
Absolutely.
Yep.
And then raise.
I prefer chocolate.
Black men?
Yes.
Okay.
And then you don't have Hispanic up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Black.
I guess they got to rework it.
But okay, your future husband, you'd like him to be a black man.
Yeah, I find them attractive and also people who have like fair skin but dark eyes and dark hair.
Victorian men.
Yeah, those two.
What about white guys?
Any interest in white men?
No.
I've dated white men.
I work with a lot of them.
I just know.
I'm not you working with a lot of them.
My only issue is can the white man that I'm dating handle being in a society being married to a black woman?
Because we're gonna have, can he handle having black children?
Yeah.
Those are really important to me.
And there's not many white guys who can or even have thought of all the societal things you have to deal with being black in America.
Can a black woman handle having a white child?
100%.
We've been doing it for 300 plus years, respectfully.
And I'm half.
I'm mixed.
I was raised by my white side.
But it is interesting, like when if you're mixed, right?
It's very confusing over here.
Like you're white, but you're also black.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I know exactly.
I was afforded a lot of luxuries growing up with my white family, moving out.
I was like, oh, shit, I'm black.
Yo, that was fun.
When people started like, parents would pull their kids away from me if I'm wearing sweatpants.
Like, it was just a little slow.
I can't even go to a mall.
If I go into a restaurant and I order a steak, let's say I want it medium rare.
Like with my grandpa, if it's overcooked, they're taking it out of his face immediately.
He can't even, my steak is overcooked, it's gone.
Me?
Can you deal with that?
Is that going to be your question?
Is it all right?
No, actually, it's not fucking okay because it was a $60 steak.
Let's continue with the thing among the raised.
I would say a bonus would be if they can speak Spanish, but I'm from Latina.
Yeah.
I'm half Guatemalan, half Mexican.
So height, let's do, I'm 5'1.
So 5'2 to 5'11.
Taller than us.
5' 5'2 is fine.
Okay, that was just minimum height.
Yeah, just higher than me.
Just a little bit more.
Wait, be real, though.
Be real, though.
5'5'2.
I am 5'1.
Right, but even in children.
Short guys are hung sometimes.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't really wear heels, but yeah, I'm cool.
Okay, cool.
All right, she.
All right.
Exclude obese.
Exclude it?
Yes.
Based off of it.
Okay, let's do 95.
95.
Yeah, but I didn't think about taxes.
Girl, and they be talking like crazy.
They be talking like a mother.
Oh, we're just going to stay single forever.
5'2 and it's only 0.2%.
This is crazy.
I only see one colored.
Is there anything else that's colorful?
You mean scrolling?
Oh, it's black men.
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
Oh, it's because of black.
I'm 26 of all black men in that age range.
Scroll up.
Scroll up.
The salulu.
A little bit.
A little more, a little more.
It's because black men.
I just need one man.
So that's plenty of percentage for me to get one.
I just need one.
Right.
Yeah.
But, okay, so each of you are less or under 1% in terms of the men that you're looking for.
But we're all very special people.
We're not average.
I'm not running the mill.
But that's what they say, Delulu, but I don't care.
Dolu is the salulu.
Dolulu is the salulu.
You're saying that you're special.
I am special.
What makes me special?
Well, no, I mean, like.
I mean, I just spoke to you.
This is a pretty average table, myself included.
You might be average.
I am not average.
Oh.
I'm not even wearing.
I mean, how many figure skaters do you know?
How many people do you know?
Just come with me.
How many of you have to do that?
Figure skaters.
That's a huge priority for men.
It doesn't matter.
Think about that.
I mean, that's original.
That's a very unique talent.
How many people have you known that lived in France or studied abroad in France?
I was born in France.
Okay, you might have been, but how many people do you know with that kind of...
Do you know how to sing the Marseilles?
I can't even pronounce it in French.
Which one?
I know Sean-Elyse.
Oh, Jean-Girls.
Oh, I know the two.
La.
You know what's up?
You are not average, Brian.
No, no, no.
You know what's dope about the French national anthem?
The lyrics, if you translate them or if you just speak French, is we will, oh, fuck, how does it go?
We will fertilize our fields with the blood of our enemies.
I think that's in the French national anthem.
Hold on, let me just make sure I'm tricky.
What they will do is build a wall for you to walk around.
National anthem.
That's pretty badass.
You know what I'm saying?
Marseille is?
Marseille?
I can't pronounce it.
Marseille.
Oh, no, that's Versailles.
I moved from France when I was five, so unfortunately, I lost most of my but that's unique.
You know what I mean?
Like, that doesn't make someone average.
A lot of people in America haven't even gone out to the country.
And I've gone to like seven countries.
Same.
I know how to set a table.
A lot of women don't know how to set a table, respectfully.
I think we need to find something unique, right?
And if each of us get to know each other, that would kind of we'll find something.
So yeah, we're average.
I'm not average, respectfully.
And like in a whole, if someone was to see it as strangers, right?
But we aren't.
I don't even look average.
I'll talk to you when I'm in Seattle.
No one assumes that I'm average.
Like I already hold myself in a way that's not average.
And you do too.
Thank you.
There's no averageness going on here.
I mean, unless you accept that, right?
Because that's your own perception.
The doctor's back.
Uh-oh.
Here, I'll read that chat really quick.
Oh, no, no, she's not normalizing BCD.
I care about society normalizing obesity.
You're so entitled.
You want the world adjusting to your condition and make seats bigger when you choose to be fat.
Also, don't shoot the messenger here.
I'm just reading.
Also, are you sure you can get pregnant without?
I know a 500-pound woman who got pregnant and had a healthy birth.
We'll find out.
And I'm nowhere near five.
But that might be the exception, though.
Here's the thing.
It goes back to the break.
It might be the exception.
Yeah, here's the thing with pregnant, you know, like men, if they are bigger, they have less testosterone, right?
And then women, when they are bigger and bigger, it tricks, it affects our estrogen.
And it can trick our body into thinking that we're taking birth control with estrogen.
So it's harder for us to get pregnant.
And it's the same thing in the other spectrum.
When someone is very, very underweight, they're not producing that much estrogen.
So in both, you know, extremes.
Yeah.
But it goes back to problems to that.
It goes back to this person who's looking at me through a screen, just determining that I'm too fat to get pregnant or whatever.
But it's like, you don't know my body.
You're just looking at me and just assuming because I'm bigger than what you would perceive as a normal size or whatever.
Then you're turning it into, oh, it's a health issue and you can't do this and that and the other.
But it's like, it's really perspective when you're talking about that because to some people, I'm not that big.
To some people, I'm really big.
So it's really just you justifying your prejudice against me as a person.
And you don't know my health, medical history, nothing about me.
You're just looking at me.
So that's really just, oh, what you look like because you don't know me.
I once heard a story.
There was a woman who didn't even know she was pregnant.
Yeah.
Yeah, because she was chubby.
I've heard that too.
But you know, skinny girls can do that too.
Skinny girls?
Yeah, they can do that too.
They can be pregnant and not know.
I mean, body's amazing.
But I'm saying, like, they not just early on.
I'm saying full term.
They didn't know.
That's happened within women too.
And the baby came out and she's like, I didn't know I was pregnant.
It's very common for them to be preemies.
Yeah.
But it also happens with it.
That's not a size thing.
That happens also with times.
We have some more videos from our lovely guest, Gabby, here.
Oh, yay.
Nick, if you're able to pull up The subsequent Gabby video.
Oh, do we have we can play this?
Wait, play it really quick, but I don't know if.
Yeah, we'll just play it.
Hi, Jessica.
I don't know if that's your name, but you seem like a Jessica.
Nobody cares who you're dating.
I know that's a really hard pill to swallow, but genuinely, nobody cares who you're dating.
Thank you.
Except maybe somebody else who wants to date you.
Thank you.
So when fat people are talking about societal fat phobia and the way in which it informs beauty standards and then informs desirability in partners, we are simply saying that those preferences are not innocent.
None of them are.
So continue about your day and love your boyfriend, girlfriend, who the fuck ever.
In all their skinny glory.
But when your preferences are negative, they are very clearly not preferences.
When your preferences reject entire classes of people, they are not preferences.
But most importantly, the question I have for you at the end of the day is why do you hate fat people so much that you needed to come on an app and scream so loudly?
I fucking hate and would never date a fat person.
When literally no one cares.
No one gives a shit who you're dating.
Never happen.
Oh.
Yeah, so I mean, I feel like we've already kind of covered that with the previous video, but she said, what did she say?
She was saying that it's it kind of reminds me of what if you flip the script when there's a group of black men who only date what they call snow bunnies, which is white women.
And when in I, when they say, like when you ask them, okay, why are you with your girlfriend?
Instead of saying, oh, she's pretty, she's intelligent, she's successful, they'll say, because black women are too aggressive.
Black women are too this, that, and the other.
So they're dating these snow bunnies, I'm using their term, because they hate black women.
It has nothing to do with the white woman that they're dating.
And at the end of the day, I don't care who you date, but why do you get to put me down just to make yourself feel better in your relationship?
I don't understand that.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, that's what that, I think that's what she's saying.
Like, you, when, that's what they're saying when they're saying a preference is I don't prefer fat people, but you're assuming that all fat people are just the one same thing, where we're all different sizes, but we're all considered to be fat.
And so you're basically just saying all fat people no, when in reality, push came to shove, if she met the right guy and he became or was overweight, chances are she wouldn't say no.
It's when you're just blindly saying no to everybody and not thinking about any personality or anything.
I mean, I get what they're saying when they say that.
Well, I think it just ultimately comes down back again to preferences.
I mean, but you can't prefer.
I feel like you could have a preference, but don't put other people down for your preference.
Go ahead with your point.
You can't just prefer like a physique.
Like that, just like when she says, for instance, if I'm like, oh, I don't date white guys, it's like you're then not even giving, you're just grouping everyone in one thing when in actuality, it's like there might be, you know, exceptions to the rule.
And when you say, when you group it all, you're not allowing for any exception.
And maybe it's, maybe it's, you know, I don't know.
You're not giving, you're not leaving any room for exception.
I gotta say, I don't know if this is gonna be offensive, but I think just for me, blanket, I wouldn't date an obese woman.
But you just said you like chubby Asian women.
There's a difference between obese.
But that's like, who decides if you're obese?
When I'm talking chubby, I mean like, you know, there's a little belly.
Do you have a picture?
That's that's because people consider me to be chubby, but then some people will consider me to be fat.
And some people consider me not even to be big at all.
But there are some voice to message.
Hold on, let me just respond to her.
That is because chubby has been appropriated.
I'm chubby and I like it.
I'm just saying, chubby, I feel like there's degrees, you know.
Yeah, but that's all perception.
When I think chubby, I think like a little bit overweight.
You know what I mean?
What's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little belly, like a little bit of a belly, like chubby, a little chubby, like a little bit.
She's 4'11 with a belly.
She's looking like a Upa Lupa.
Let me not.
I can Google Chubby.
Let me Google Chubby.
Tommy.
I'm gonna Google Chubby right now.
Chubby.
But to be fair, your algorithm is gonna be to what you usually look at.
It could be, you know, if we're going according to the dictionary definition of chubby.
The dictionary that's consistently changing.
We have again, this is a bit vague, so I could be wrong here.
Plump and rounded.
That's me.
So maybe chubby isn't the right word.
I don't know what the right word is.
It also depends on your age.
What's the difference between chubby and thick?
Well, I feel like thick is its own thing.
Soft, it's all very confusing.
But then that's the same thing.
People call me red bone or yellow bone.
Like at the same time, it's still perception.
Like, I thought I was dark-skinned my whole life.
It's a level of light skin.
So like usually it's our undertone.
So like some people call me yellow bone, some people call me red bone.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
And remember, same thing with this conversation.
Like it doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
Like if you're chubby or not chubby, it's really your perception.
So it's like, are you okay with it or not?
Okay.
I will like to out preferences when you're done.
Are you what?
What kind of bone am I?
What kind of bone?
You're white.
Am I a bone?
No.
What does that mean?
A bone?
You have to be some sort of like mixed color complexion.
Can I be like, can I be white bone?
No, you're pink.
Can you be pink bone?
I'm yellow bone.
What's cute?
I'm red bone.
I'm pink bone.
I consider myself golden.
What's Madison?
I'm yellow.
She's Asian.
So she's yellow.
Asian also Asian.
She's like your undertone, right?
Well, yes, but you don't even consider to be yellow bone.
They would just call you yellow if we're doing that.
But that's derogatory precise.
Can I be ghost bone?
Yeah.
We're going to call you Casper from here on out.
I'm super pale.
Yeah.
We'll call you Casper.
I was going to say I can see right through Irish bone.
I'm translation.
Yeah, I was like, I can see right through your head.
I know.
It's crazy.
It's just mouth and teeth, but at least they look nice.
It's weird.
Cool.
Okay, where, oh, the video.
Okay, we reacted to the video, I think.
I think I add on preferences quickly.
So it's exactly what she's saying.
Like, a preference is something that I will like if everything was my way.
But we can always compromise it, right?
And for me, for example, me as someone who's a virgin, I would love to marry someone else who is a virgin, kind of like by the standards you have with someone else.
However, however, me as someone who's a Christian, I am willing to, I want to date whoever God has for me.
So if God wants me to date someone who's not a virgin, if God wants me to date someone who maybe even has kids, even though me and my flesh, I don't want it, I'm willing to surrender that and trust the Lord on what he wants for me.
So that's where I make some room for my preferences to be like mess around with.
It's only if I know it's from the Lord for me to date this person, even if they come with kids, whatever it is, would I really want that?
No, but if it's his purpose, I'm going to do it.
How do you know it's God's purpose?
When you have a relationship with him, you know.
You know.
Because I, I mean, I'm a Christian too.
I go to church as well.
And I feel like for a long time, I used to have that mindset because that's what I was taught in my church.
But what I feel like the disconnect is when you're in an environment of church where they don't really like give you an atmosphere of dating and mating and getting to know people on a romantic level.
It feels like you have to look at everybody as like a brother and sister in Christ and things like that, which I understand.
But how do you move from that kind of sibling relationship?
Because you want to keep it pure to a romantic one.
And I don't feel like in general, churches really support those kinds of relationships.
So then you're kind of stuck in this kind of thing where you want to please God, you want to have that relationship with God, but you're kind of stuck in this ideology that we all get from churches that it's just like, well, I don't really know how to go about, you know, getting to that person, I guess.
So that's why I asked, because like you have your values and your standards, but you said that if God told you that this person was right for you, even though that person was not like your list of what you had, you would say yes to him.
But that's why I want to know because I feel like God meets the desires of your heart and you and you have this desire to be with a man that is in this preference or whatever.
So to go complete left out of that preference, I wonder if like, if you like, how would you feel comfortable going with someone so outside of that zone?
If you know, if you, if that wasn't on your part, sorry my bad.
Yeah, hold on, let's.
Let's try to keep things moving a little bit.
I will let you.
Do you want to respond or try to keep it quick?
Yeah quickly, okay.
So um yes, it's all about surrendering.
So I have my preferences and obviously I would like for God to check all of them, do it all my way, but at the end of the day, he has the last day and I surrender everything to him, including my love life.
And I believe you know someone who might not be a virgin or has kids.
They have a past, they have a testimony.
I'm willing to extend grace to them, just a reflection of like the church and and like to us and marriage.
I'm willing to extend grace to them and look at them as a human being in their testimony and start something new because they're a new person, and not condemn them because they had a kid, because of this, and that I'm willing to be a reflection of God's love towards that person and yeah, I'm having a relationship with God.
Hopefully I'll be able to get confirmation that this is a guy.
Yeah okay, just to bring it back.
Can Nick?
Do you still have the calculator pulled up, or did you?
Did you close down, or so?
In addition to all the things you want, you also want a guy who's a virgin correct, so not married.
Black, at least five foot the height thing, that's perfectly reasonable not obese, earning at least ninety five thousand dollars a year, and has to be a virgin.
What are your thoughts about that?
It's zero.
No, I know guys that are virgin.
I know a lot of guys are.
I just need one.
Hook you up, girl.
I just need one.
Not obese, also over than that, also black also.
They say, I mean, maybe in other states.
Well, so when it comes, when it comes to the calculator right, and when it comes to what we all want, this is for both men and women.
So you know what you want, right.
But then you also have to think about well, what does the guy that I want want?
What is he looking for?
Is he looking for you?
That's, that's that man is looking for me.
I had to do a reset.
Actually, that's a good question.
Yeah, because the kind of man that I wanted?
Um wasn't attracted to old Misty.
I was a little bit more promiscuous.
I dressed it, addressed a little bit more um provocative, um, because I was in this era of hating my body for so long that when I learned to love it, I was ready to flaunt it, and so I went through that phase.
But now I realize that the kind of man that I want to attract is more attracted to a woman who's going to be a little bit more um, definitely submissive, but she's gonna probably be a little more modest a little more modest, excuse me, um.
And so I actually had to do a revamp about a year and a half ago, where I literally changed, Changed myself and things I was doing and saying and posting, et cetera, places I would go and be to attract the type of man that I want.
So, that being said, for sure, like that, that's something to take into account.
But that's something that you decide to do.
Word.
It wasn't hard to do.
We have a couple chats here.
We have FDG.
We love that.
She says, obesity is not in an opinion.
Not an opinion, excuse me.
Please calculate your BMI.
Can you calculate it on screen, please?
Who does that help, though?
That's the Western standard of what a body should be.
That's ridiculous.
That's pretty much what I'm from.
Not my people.
I'm half black, half white in the tribe.
The black side of my tribe, we were a little thick bottle.
Like, that's just what it is.
Like, the BMI, who does that, who does that fit?
Can I explain what the music is?
So the body mass index is a formula.
It was invented by a mathematician.
Right, but yeah, and it's basically weighing kilometers over height and meters square.
So it only measures your weight.
And it doesn't separate your weight from how much of it is muscle, how much of it is fat.
But people still use it, but again, it's missing specific factors.
So usually what's best recommended to do is, I think it's called the DEXA scan, and that is like measures everything.
So that would be the best thing to get if you really want to personalize, see how healthy you are.
But BMI, that was basically made from a mathematician and a researcher who studied obesity, he used that formula in the research and that caught on within the health.
And like, who was he also?
Well, FDG will be pleased to know that we actually have a DEXA scanner in studio right now.
So we're going to actually get up and just kidding.
Let's go.
All right, Benji the Offender.
I don't see my weight.
I don't see how the term fat phobia came to be.
I highly doubt anyone is fleeing in terror from a walking blob of lover.
Yes, you are.
You're in my DMs.
You're in my comments.
Like, you are obsessed with me.
It became like when you watch TV, like if you watch old reruns of television, one of the biggest insults you could ever have was to be fat.
Like I re-watched Girlfriends.
I re-watched Golden Girls.
I re-watched a bunch of old shows.
And the way, and remember, we were just talking about how we don't have a name for fat, but we do have a name, the N-word, and we've got a name for like, but we don't have a name for that.
The worst thing you could be in any one of those shows was fat.
Oh my God, you're getting fat.
Oh, you're looking fat.
Your boyfriend dumped you because you're fat.
And like, so as a child, that's all I'm being reiterated.
The worst thing I could be was fat.
Meanwhile, I'm literally living and surviving.
The doctor's like, well, I can't really tell anything wrong with you, but you are overweight.
Exactly.
Catching strays left and right just because you don't like my body type.
That's what it is.
We have some more videos we need to react to.
Let's do it.
Nick, if you are able to pull up the next video from Gabby here, I think finally.
We got a lot.
We're going to just go through all of them.
We got a lot to go through.
You have time to go through my videos?
Oh my gosh.
This is like a commitment.
I love it.
Oh, look at your hair.
Yeah, that's when I was blonde.
Just to be confirmed, Nick, this is the third one from Gabby.
Just confirm.
Make sure you're true that you're on.
Because, okay, we did the first one, then we did the what you bring to the table, and then so this should be the third one.
I just want to make sure we're not missing.
blonde guys.
We're good?
Okay.
We're just going to watch a whole bunch.
Let's see.
Uh-oh.
I just went on the world's cheapest date.
When I tell you, I'm so sick of the brokeies that are coming through my DMs, but I just got to get into the story time.
So this guy asked me out for a date today.
And, you know, I pick a spot near me because what do I look like traveling on public transportation for this date, right?
So he comes.
The place happens to be closed.
So we're walking trying to find another restaurant, which is like my pet peeve.
He rolls up in a bicycle.
Not a car, a bicycle.
So I'm looking at him like, I'm in a skirt.
I'm dressed up.
He's in sneakers, shorts, and a bicycle.
What, trying to work out?
So of course I try to find the other restaurants.
Every restaurant we go to on the street, he looks at the menu.
If it looks a little bit too expensive or too bougie, he's making excuses like, oh, you know, I'm not really feeling pizza, you know, right now.
Maybe a food truck.
Let's try a food truck.
Where are we going to sit in a food truck, sir?
Where are we going to sit?
Like for part two, because I have a lot to say about this.
Did that, so that he pulled up on a bike?
He pulled up on a bike with like bike shorts and dirty sneakers, and I was in heels and like a long skirt and makeup and hair and everything.
I was like, are we going on a date?
Where are we going?
I was so confused.
Was it like one of those bikes with the little pegs on the back where you could kind of hop on or like a cool bike?
It was like a regular bike.
No cool features.
So did that date end there?
No.
Should have.
It should have, but I didn't know.
I was like, let's see where this goes.
So he has been walking all around the city in heels.
So you're walking and he's biking next to you.
He's like walking his bike.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, he's walking the bike.
He's walking his bike next to me.
And every place he went to, he was just like making excuses, which I know obviously he didn't come prepared to pay for a date clearly or even to pay for himself because we went to like reasonable.
We just like walked around the neighborhood, went to reasonable spots.
We even sat down.
The waiter like gave us our menus and walked away.
Like, I'll be back with your drinks.
And he's like, 20% gratuity added.
Let's get out of here.
I'm not paying 20% gratuity added.
I was like, okay.
So then we walked around the corner.
He's like, oh, there's like a milkshake shop.
Let's go in there and get a milkshake.
So we're in line for the milkshake.
And he's like, oh, stay in line.
I have to go to the bathroom.
And I was like, okay.
Soon as he went to the bathroom, I ran.
I ran like a half a mile away from there because I was like terrified of like trying to tell him I'm not feeling this.
Like I can't do.
I had so much like anxiety at that moment.
I just ran.
That's all I can imagine.
And I ran away.
I physically ran.
Come back.
You didn't pay for your milkshake.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he, and then I was like, sorry, I had an emergency.
I had to go.
And then he was like, oh, it's all good.
And then like, I don't know, 20 minutes later, he sends me like a video of him at a fancy restaurant, like as if, oh, he just skipped the milkshakes and went to a fancy restaurant by himself.
But quick tips, ladies and gents, if you save the video that someone sends you, it'll tell you the date that it was taken.
It was taken like three months prior.
So he tried to be slick saying, oh, yeah, I paid this money today.
No, that was three months ago.
You probably didn't pay it.
But anyways, yeah, that was a really awful date.
How do you get into these situations?
Hinge.
Yeah, hinge.
Yeah, I just, I don't know.
Like, that's what I mean.
Like, that's why I'm so particular about dates and my dating standards because I'm running into foolish men and I just, I don't.
Brokeies, I think was the term.
Broke.
Brokeies.
Bro, they're brokeies.
Sometimes brokeies are like the sweetest, the sweetest.
That's what they got.
If I wanted to just get away from that, they would have got anything to just do.
Except how take you on a date.
I mean that, but like I'm friends.
They can't pick you up.
What do you mean?
Question for you.
So, I mean, you're 27.
Obviously, look, you're looking for something serious.
You're looking for something long-term.
I don't think it's abnormal to want to find a guy who's, I mean, that was the traditional order of things.
The guy's the provider.
Get it, right?
When you were in college, though, for example, did you go to college?
I did.
Were you a bit more flexible when he, because obviously guys in college, you know, they're not.
A thousand percent.
If I were to find someone, if I found my husband in college, for example, I would be more than happy to, yes.
Yeah.
Because we're both in college.
We're both starting our lives at the same level.
So he might be going to college to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, and I have an education too.
So it's very different when you're talking about and you're in college because you're both starting at the same level and you're both on the path to success because you both are, you know, getting your education to further your goals and your life and your career.
But I didn't find anyone in college.
And so my dating preferences had to change with the times because now I'm an adult and I pay my own bills and things are a lot different.
So I'm expecting a little bit more than I would if I was a college student.
So for sure, if you're in college, I would have different standards for that.
Although I'm sure there's probably even women in college that even then they don't want to deal with they'll date an older guy.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I mean, that preference.
Yeah.
Sure.
If we were smart.
That would have been what I would have done.
Earlier in the show, you said you're, I don't know if you said super traditional, but you said so traditional.
You're very traditional.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
I guess here from the guy's perspective, right?
So when it comes, and I said, and we didn't really get too much into it, but like, for example, and I think she mentioned it before, I don't like to pay on the first date.
Obviously, look, I'll split the bill.
I know a lot of women don't like that.
That's fine.
Although I'm starting to kind of slightly shift my view on it.
And look, I don't recommend men do it because a lot of women, you're going to lose a lot of women.
Yeah.
And for me, it's not even a money thing.
For me, it comes to more principal thing.
And this is why I brought up the traditional thing.
So, you know, you earlier in the show, and look, I get it.
You live in LA.
This is the way a lot of people move nowadays.
You said you have five guys on your roster.
So me, if I went on a date with a girl and I knew that she was entertaining like four or five other men, I would not feel particularly inclined to fall into my traditional gender roles.
Like I don't, I would be like, okay, you're talking to five other guys.
Like I don't, I don't feel like being a gentleman in those circumstances.
He doesn't know that.
Your testosterone is broken.
He doesn't know that I have five other things.
What do you mean, like a competitive thing?
Yeah, well, biologically, like, I mean, obviously there's going to be, it's going to be a spectrum, but biologically, like, that's what you guys are do.
You guys go, you compete, you just, you, you, you scavenge, you find, you solve.
Like, by nature, that's what you do.
You may not do that.
That's very much you.
But by nature.
Well, I think you're misunderstanding a little bit, but it's to me, it's not like if I find out or I learn that a girl is dating a bunch of other men or she's, I don't know what your situation is, but if a certainly if a woman is sleeping with other men.
Oh, no.
No, I don't say that.
Well, but you, so you're dating five guys.
I mean, I don't know if you're open to sharing this, but you said there's a one-month guy, there's a three-month guy.
Are you hooking up with?
Nope.
No.
Three months?
I mean, because it's not a little something.
A little something, a little something.
So four points.
No, because the bleachers underneath the bleachers.
Okay.
No, I feel like even though it's been three months, I've only seen them a handful of times.
So it's not like I'm seeing them every day.
Like I'm on date three with one guy and I've been seeing the three month guy maybe five, six times.
Like it's still.
Still no bedroom fun?
No.
Nothing.
No.
You don't want it.
He doesn't want it.
I mean, I feel like at this point, I'm really.
Is that too soon?
I think it's for me.
I'm not saying that, obviously do what you want.
I'm not really into being frivolous with my body when it comes to sex.
So I feel like I really do need to be in like a serious commitment, like committed relationship before I would even go into that direction, I guess.
So I feel like for me, it just, yeah, I want to be in like a solid relationship before I like do all that kind of stuff.
Let me ask you a question.
If the three-month guy, you said, what, you're on date five or six or something?
Yeah.
If he came to you, he was like, Gabby, I really like you.
You're awesome.
I love spending time with you.
I feel like we have a good connection here.
This is date three, right?
And he's like, listen, I want to be exclusive.
I want to be boyfriend, girlfriend.
Would you go for that?
Or is that, you're still feeling.
I guess it depends on like how true that statement is, how honest this guy is.
Like, like I said, because I've been through, I've like dated so many different types of men, I know that like I don't always believe what they say, like kind of watch their actions.
So like if I really believed him and he's shown and proven himself to me that he's like consistent and he's serious about being exclusive with me, I don't need to date any other guys.
It's really up to the guy.
And like if I haven't seen you more than five times in three months, that's not really on me.
I'm available when you're available, but that's like, you know, we're working, we're, you know, we're doing things.
I get it.
Like people are busy.
So I feel like it's just really up to him when we get to that point.
The three-month guy, though, has he asked you on dates and you haven't been available?
Yes.
And is that because you're dating five other men?
Because I mean, earlier on in the conversation, though, you did say that you'll schedule out dates, you know?
So I'm wondering, like, could the fact that you're dating multiple people impact the ability for any one?
Because if a girl's busy and you don't have as much free time to like have a more consistent meetup and you are dating multiple people, I feel it can, while you are keeping your options open and potentially trying to get the best guy that you can get, I feel like when you are dating multiple people, it can make it difficult for any one situation to move forward because you're not able, you're not like giving as much time to that one guy because you're going on other dates.
You're busy.
Yes, I agree.
And that is, there is a con or a dilemma to a roster when you do get too busy for a guy that may be serious about you.
But I don't feel like I've really, I don't feel like a guy has been that serious about me to where I feel like I need to give him all my time and energy.
A couple of times I feel like a guy has, you know, swindled me into like not talking to the other guys as much because he's talking to me every day, FaceTiming every day, making me feel like, you know, he's putting in all of his eggs in my basket.
And in that case, I do kind of like neglect the other guys on my roster because this guy's giving me so much attention.
But so much attention only goes so far because if you're not taking me out on dates and you're not trying to see me in person, spend time with me in person, then I'm back to the roster life because this isn't going anywhere.
It's just all talk.
Like, when are we actually going to do some action?
So I think that's why I kind of just, okay, well, I'm going to somebody else because like this isn't consistent.
I'm available for you and I will make time for you.
And back to your question when you were like, oh, well, what if, you know, you're too busy to see this guy who's really interested?
I tend, I'm a very like organized person because, you know, I run my own business.
I have my own brand.
I'm doing a lot of things.
So I don't really like same-day dates.
Like, of course, I'll make exceptions if I can.
So typically, I like to have at least 24 to 48 hours notice that you want to spend time with me so that I can give you my undivided attention.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you there.
I definitely think some people are very spontaneous, which in some times that's fine if you're available.
But I do think it's best to try to at least have a bit of a plan, you know, because if you have a busy life, which it sounds like you do, then it's helpful to, hey, are you on a Monday?
Are you free this weekend?
Are you free Friday?
Type of thing.
And I'll make time for sure.
But as far, just to go back to like our little back and forth, kind of why one of my hesitations with paying for the first date is I don't want to fall into my traditional gender roles if a girl is like entertaining a whole bunch of options.
I think it's not that hard to date one person at a time.
And I think while there may be some negatives to that, I certainly think the positives outweigh it.
I think it's more likely to actually lead to a relationship if you are, You might feel a bit more upset when if you're just dating one guy and it doesn't work out.
Whereas if you've got three or four or five other guys or girls, same with men.
Oh, okay, it didn't work out with her.
Cool.
I'm already talking to three chicks.
I see what you mean.
I think that's.
But I do think it does restrict things from proceeding to more serious places.
I almost feel like you can, this isn't exact, but you can almost, you can, you can't smell it.
You can't smell it.
But like, if somebody's attention is divided, it just, you feel that.
And it like, I don't know.
I think there's something to be said about trial and error, though.
So you've reached something that works for you.
It works for you to date just one person.
I don't know how these ladies feel, but normally women, because the way that we are biologically made, we will date one person at a time.
And dating coaches now are telling us as women that we shouldn't be dating just one at the one time.
We're putting all our baskets because the way our time clocks biologically are different than yours.
So us giving you, just like she had said earlier in the episode, giving three to six months to this guy, three to six months, this guy, three to six months to this guy, that's now a year, two years, three years that our uterus is just getting older.
And we have to protect ourselves.
And if you want babies and you want a family.
That's a whole uterus problem.
I mean, but that's something we have to take into account.
You know what I'm saying?
And so I just, that was the way I used to date was one at one time.
But then what happens is that then I'm head over heels for this guy.
I'm giving him my attention.
That's not how men normally date.
Men don't normally date one person.
They normally date many.
So now I'm head over heels for you.
I like you a lot.
You're dating a lot of girls and now I'm giving you too much attention.
So now you back off because you already know you got me.
You're not really interested in me anymore.
And now I'm stuck really liking you and I have to pull myself back to you.
Then when other people, I'm not, I'm not even thinking about them because I'm focused.
I'm trying to work.
Sorry, I'm focusing.
I'm trying to make something work.
It's like, if I pull myself out of it a little bit and really allow people who are interested in me to step up and show me that they're interested, then no matter what, the way I am, I'm very monogamous.
I'm going to be drawn to one no matter what.
That's why I said that I'm slightly different than having a roster.
I'll let someone, I'll entertain someone for a certain amount of time.
But once they reach a point, like there's a guy that I actually was really interested in.
And he just stays in my DMs and he never wants to ask me out.
And the one time he ever asked me out, he asked me out to a general place.
It was a bar with a lot of people.
I come and I actually was bringing Gabby.
He is on me like white on rice.
White on rice.
He's like, now I'm his girlfriend.
No one else can talk to me.
No one else can holler at me.
He's basically, and I even told him, I was like, why are you doing this?
Like, this is literally our first time hanging out.
Did you not get numbers before you rise here?
He's like, yeah, I got some Instagram.
Okay, so why are you doing this?
And I literally told him, I was like, you do all this talking, talking, talking in my Instagram.
You never asked me out on a single date, but the minute you get me out in public for people that I know, okay, and LA is very small.
I know people.
I know them from left and right.
You're hanging on me like a freaking wet rag.
And now I look like I've got a boyfriend from someone who literally can't even take me on a date.
And I had to restrict him.
You can keep talking to yourself in my DMs because you ain't about shit, respectfully.
You want to waste my time.
Good mornings.
Love the ice skating video.
Looking sexy here.
You know I really like you.
I just saw him when he was walking.
He was going to the gym an hour away from, anyways.
He's going to the gym.
I'm leaving.
Oh, Misty, I can't believe it's you.
You blocked me, didn't you?
I have you unrestricted.
Why'd you do that?
Because you don't talk about shit.
I told him that to his face.
I told you, you don't talk about shit.
You're literally my DM saying, hey, how are you doing?
Jazz Night.
Love that video.
That's not getting, you want to.
I even told him, ask me on a date.
Let's get to know each other.
Let's get to know each other.
I'm actually attracted to you too.
You're not about shit.
I got to let it go.
You're wasting my time.
That's not a roster.
That's an annoyance.
Brian, I think you need to be willing to take that risk.
And also, it can easily be fixed.
Not easily, but you can work all of that out if you communicate with them.
But like, hey, these are kind of the standards.
I would like to date someone who's just dating one.
Where are you?
Like, that's something that's a conversation.
And that's a risk you're willing to take when you're investing your love.
Like, yeah, it won't work out.
Here's the problem with that, though.
Do you feel like a lot of people, let's say someone who does have a roster, you could ask up front, like, hey, are you dating other people?
People lie.
Men and women lie.
They're going to downplay.
I would downplay first.
Oh, you would downplay.
I'm not going to let them know that I'm talking about.
You show your honesty.
Because the fragile male ego, if you want anything from this man, you can't let him know that because that's going to be.
It's not a fragile male ego.
It's just the ego.
Well, okay, I think men are territorial.
Oh, exactly.
Territorial.
Yes.
Yeah, but we don't want to be afraid.
You want to be territorial and you want to go to the middle of the moment.
It doesn't make any sense.
There's degrees to it, right?
Some guys are not going to care if you're seeing other men.
I would say, though, like if a guy, even very early on, is not like super jealous in a weird way where he's like, let me look through your phone or being like really, really jealous.
But if he says or he knows, hey, I only, hold on, sorry, I'm losing my train of thought here.
There's too many conversational threads.
I actually think it's an indicator that he's actually genuinely very interested in you if he wants you to just be talking to him.
Yes, but what have you done to deserve that?
Well, but here's the thing.
Like, if he doesn't really care, here's the thing.
If a guy really doesn't care about you that much, he just wants to fuck you.
He's not really like some guys are not going to care.
Yeah.
Like, okay, fine.
You're seeing other girls.
I'm, or excuse me, you're seeing other men.
I'm seeing other chicks.
I just want to fuck you.
But if a guy is almost demanding your loyalty is the right word, demanding your exclusive attention, that is to some degree an indicator that he is looking at you for long-term potential.
Brian Flanders.
You need to pop the question.
I love that.
I love that.
That is love bombing.
That's a narcissist.
Oh, no.
No, this is Brian.
You need a normal.
Hold on, hold on.
That was the normal order of things up until, I don't know, the sexual revolution up until very recently.
Obviously, we have social media, we have dating apps, which has absolutely exploded people's optionality.
Let's say people have way more options.
Obviously, look, back in the 90s, people were 30 years ago, you know, people were obviously dating multiple people, but I think it's on steroids now because of social media, because of the globalized sexual marketplace.
Because in the past, if you were in a city, your options were in that city, but now you got the DMs.
I'm sure you get DMs, a guy in Vegas, a guy in Miami, a guy in fucking, I don't know, Answer.
Across the land, whatever.
Brian, going back to what I'm saying, that's why that dating isn't meant to be forever.
If you want that from her, then you need to pop the question and be like, do you want to be my girlfriend?
And she's going to have to make the choice to leave everyone else and choose you or no, and you move on.
I think that's great.
That's a question women should ask, though.
What do you mean?
I think women should broach the.
At what point?
Date one, date three?
Like, when?
I think when she has made the determination that she sees she wants to pursue something long-term with that guy, I think that's a conversation that the woman should broach.
I don't think the menu is.
I feel like I already know that.
If I'm dating you, if I'm going out with you, I see long-term potential or else I wouldn't have dated you.
So I'm ready now.
But I don't feel like these guys are like giving me that.
I don't want to say some of them are, but like, I feel like that's determined by the man because I've already decided if I'm going on a date with you, I do see long-term with you.
If she showed up, I'm not saying yes to you.
She's on her part.
Unless I'm trying to see you for my future.
Let's pop the question.
So you're saying women should do it?
I should like on first date.
By the way, this is our first date, but I think this is exclusive.
It doesn't have to be the first date, but when it comes to the exclusivity conversation, when it comes to boyfriend-girlfriend conversation, I do think women should initiate that conversation.
No, I really have five guys.
I'll just draw five and listen.
No, ask that.
You guys hate that.
You guys hate that question.
What are we?
You guys hate that question.
I'm going to ask it.
Well, actually, if you want to take a market, I think this is actually some game for women.
And because a lot of women are frustrated with being in the situationships, being in the talking stage, being frustrated with guys who aren't prepared to commit.
The reality is, like, even very early on, I'd say within the first couple, let's say the first three to five dates, right?
If you drop the question and he's and he says, oh, I need more time.
Oh, yeah, I've heard this.
Or, I'm just having fun.
Let's see how things go.
He's probably just honestly not that interested in you.
He just wants to keep you around for sex.
Nick.
That's why I don't keep a roster.
That's why I don't keep a roster.
I can't keep them around if they're not showing the consistencies that I need for a husband.
Cause I really want to.
They are showing it because they're taking me out on a date.
If you have to let them go, then they can get away with it.
But how long is the dating?
How long are you going to be in the market until they ask you the question?
That's why I said the roster's always changing week to week, girl.
The roster's always changing week to week.
So what's the max amount of time that someone can bring your roster?
Like, it's been three months where I'm cutting you off because you haven't asked me.
I'm moving on.
The three months one, it feels like one month because I've only seen him five times and I haven't really spent a lot of time with him.
So I feel like that's that situation is a little bit differently because it doesn't feel like three months.
It feels like one month and I'm doing other things, I guess.
So I feel like.
But do you really need that much time to know that you want them to be?
You're right.
I guess I don't need that much time.
Yeah, you're right.
You know what?
Do you believe in removed, sir?
Come on, girl.
Three months, you're getting removed.
Do you believe in love and first sight?
No.
I believe lust at first sight.
I do too, honey.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
But you're not going to necessarily wife the lust guy.
I'm really making me.
At the end of the day, if I had to choose between an attractive man and a provider, I'm going to always choose a provider every time.
Okay, me too.
Yeah, so look, ultimately, just kind of going back to the initial point.
What was it?
Well, I think I was responding to you and you said that, oh, that something about I'm lacking testosterone.
No, I said your testosterone was broken.
See, but I don't want like, I actually think it's almost, you can make the reverse argument that a guy who doesn't want a woman who's dating a bunch of men, like you just want to opt out of the competition, like that's actually fucking some high T shit.
But what it is, is when you think about it, even in the base level of sperm, the ones that give up, they don't make it to the uterus.
It's the one that keeps fucking trying, who's like determined.
That's the one that makes the baby.
Hey, listen, but are you a good swimmer?
Wait, literally.
That's all I'm saying.
That's true.
Facts.
He made it here.
But now that you're in the world of today, are you a good swimmer?
Because what it's giving is I'm not making it to the uterus.
She doesn't want to pay for the stage.
Are you going to win the race?
Are you going to win the race?
Are you going to put the time in execution?
Because literally be so determined to get to the top.
Yes.
Are you going to pay for that date?
You're already going to pop the question.
S. Seaman, you already start off doing that.
Your masculinity already starts off doing that.
Get there, get there.
The ones that are swinging around in circles, that's what you're giving in today's world because you don't want to just do the chase.
The person, that's what it is.
May the best man win.
That's what it is.
Come on.
Best man.
Make the face.
Best swimmer.
This is what.
This is almost like getting into this like gang bang gang bang.
That's sex.
No, people are going to all have sex with you.
Swimmers.
You're talking about swimmers.
Like, I don't want my sperm to be literally competing with other men's sperm.
No, but your sperm competes with itself.
What?
You are the sperm.
Thank you.
You are the sperm.
How does he not get the race with a bunch of other men?
That's what she's trying to compare.
No, I understand that there's obviously a competition, but like when it, because women are going to want to find the best mate possible.
I get it.
I fucking get it.
But what I'm saying is, despite the fact that as a woman, you are looking for the best guy, doesn't mean that you need to be dating or sleeping with multiple men at the same time.
And it doesn't mean that I, as a man, have to tolerate or engage with a woman or date a woman who's dating or fucking other men.
You don't have to want that.
But the fact that you don't have the urge to want to win, that is what I'm talking about.
Just even at the baseline.
No, I don't want to.
That's not a game I'm going to play.
But here's the thing.
That's just you.
But by nature, that is what you guys do.
Like, if you bring us back to Neanderthrals, the ones that are winning are the ones that are doing the, okay, now we're about to fight.
And who's the bigger person to win the love?
Like, it's basic.
You need to put your armor up.
It's need to.
You need to pursue her.
You need to.
He doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to, but this is what I'm saying.
Because you not doing that makes you that sperm that's kind of swimming around in circles.
That's why I have a roster.
I'm single.
Because where's the men that are fighting for the top?
Fighting to win my love heroically.
Where are they?
Brian, but there are people who don't have a roster.
I'm not there.
I'm not interested in pursuing a woman who's dating multiple men.
And that's great.
There's no women dating multiple men.
And I know you're dating multiple women.
You're not talking to multiple women.
I know.
There are women for you.
There are women who are not dating multiple men.
Yeah, that's true.
So just like those are the women for me.
Yeah.
My DMs.
Focus on them.
Forget all of them.
That's why I said earlier.
Get in where you're at.
If you're like attracting that, then I think that's great because that's at the ultimately, that's all we're trying to say at the end of the whole day: you're going to attract who's attracted to you.
And that's what it is.
So if that's what you're into, that's fine.
Could you date someone like her?
No.
Is that wait?
Is that a real question?
Is that what I'm into?
Women who aren't fucking other men?
You are.
Yes.
You're right.
No, it wasn't a question.
It was an observation based on what you had said.
You're right.
Guilty as charged.
I am attracted to women who are not currently fucking other men.
But no one said that.
You said dating, right?
You said dating.
Or dating.
Even dating.
I'm not attracted to women who are dating multiple men.
How would you know?
I know.
Everyone.
Everyone you date is dating another woman.
No, I am here, girl.
I am here.
I would only date one person at a time.
No.
Based.
But you don't date.
You said 11 years.
No, but I would if someone was to ask me, unfortunately, I'm not a five-foot-three black man, so what can I?
I can't, you know, it's not going to work between us.
It's okay.
We can figure it out.
Figure it out.
Oh, no.
Okay.
The world is fine.
We have some more videos.
We have some more videos, guys.
Neck, you pull up to the next video.
Oh, who's that?
He's going to say some bullshit.
Damn, I stitched him once.
He's kind of sexy.
And we bring back the women that rub backs and pack lunches.
Pause, pause, pause.
Nick.
Can we bring back my idea, my bad?
Nick, start at the beginning.
video tab please when we bring back the women that rub backs and pack lunches for hard-working men Can we bring back the men who pay for dates, open doors, bring us roses, call us beautiful, is loyal to us, and not stringing along three other girls in their roster?
Can we bring back men with dignity and pride to do a man's job, which is to provide, to pay our nails once, twice a week?
Twice a week.
To pay for our Ubers, to pick us up for dates, to pay our rent.
Can we bring back men like that?
Period.
Both.
Bring back dowries.
Women need to also do something for their men.
Wait.
I'm packing lunch.
I'm coming back.
If you're in the middle of the night, there was a question that was like, okay, if you're a man, he's providing for you.
And in the middle of the night, he wakes up and he's like, babe, I'm really hungry.
Can you make me like some lasagna?
Make me some lasagna.
I'm going to be honest with you.
If I love that man and I'm completely provided for, number one, when I wake up, I'm going to get that D.
Then, yes, you're getting your lasagna babe.
But you said in that video, you said something about, I don't want a guy who has a roster of three men.
Yeah, if he's loyal to me and not to three other women.
But you have a roster.
She's because I'm single.
She's got a roster.
I'm single now, but like the next stage is what I'm talking about.
So if I, first of all, I don't accept money from just any man.
Okay.
I'm not accepting money from you unless I know that it's serious and I want something long-term.
Like I see marriage potential, whatever.
I'm not going to accept money from just any man.
What do you mean accept money?
Like I don't really want a man to just pay my bills, pay my upkeep, things like that.
If we're not in a relationship and it's not like I'm your woman and you're dating and you're supposed to be providing me, I'm not just any rando.
You know what I mean?
Because that's not what I'm looking for.
I'm looking for a provider.
I'm looking for a man who is dedicated and loyal to me as I would be to him in a relationship.
But I mean, certainly for the first date, though, at least to that extent, you want a guy to pay.
Well, dating, that's just being a gentleman.
That's being chivalrous.
You're taking me out on a date, be a gentleman.
Like, pay for dinner.
Sorry, sorry, continue.
His mind is explaining.
Pay for dinner.
I mean, like, I'm like, honestly, I thought everybody was taught that.
Like, that, you know, a man's going to pick you up for a date, take you to a restaurant, pay for dinner, get to know you, and drop you home.
And, you know what I mean?
I just thought that was normal dating until now I realize people just want you to come to their house for a Netflix and chill so they can touch you.
And I'm just like, what is going on in this world today?
Like, huh?
But okay, you talked about a gentleman and chivalry, but how am I going to go on the first date with a girl and pay for the first date?
And you said earlier that you went on five dates in a week with new guys.
Yeah.
That's not being a lady.
How?
How?
Am I?
Am I going to be able to do that?
I see your point.
No, we just want to hear what is why that's not you.
You can have a roster, but why can't you have a hand?
No.
Well, it's not even that.
It's not even that.
It's just like your conduct.
So if you're dating, but if you're dating multiple men a week, you're dating five guys in a week.
Okay.
To me, you're free to do it.
Obviously, you're allowed to do it.
There's no laws against it.
You're single.
You can do it.
But in the same way that a guy can also not pay for the first date, this whole, if you demand a guy be chivalrous, she's if you go.
Let me just finish my point.
If you demand a guy be a gentleman and be chivalrous, maybe it would be nice if you weren't, maybe you didn't sleep with the guy.
But the night before our date, you weren't kissing another dude.
I don't kiss.
You'll kiss me.
Why was there going to be a date?
You'll kiss him.
Of course, I'll kiss.
Yeah, but we're talking about first dates, right?
First dates just meeting and getting to know each other.
I'm not giving you anything.
But you say you got the roster.
So like one of the five dates.
You're kissing the dude.
I see what you mean.
I see what you mean.
Next day, I'm taking you on a date.
I'm going to be a gentleman.
I've been doing this for hundreds of years.
But men do that all the time.
Men date like that.
They were doing another girl.
Do a background check.
You can even, if you even go back to like half people recommending.
The men would call on the women and they would be multiple different men from different households and would call on these women, would come and be entertained, date, have a coffee that was obviously supervised, and that's what would happen.
So I don't see why that, I mean, it's been going on for hundreds of years.
You can make the face if you want to.
You're going to be like, I'm not calling on you.
You got to meet me outside.
But I think back in the day when, like, okay, I don't know what.
I was thinking about pretty little women.
Like Victorian.
Somebody show Manchester Burgington.
Burgington.
I love it.
When there's literally a line of men with gays to give it to her.
And now people don't even want to pay for it.
You're the flower.
You're the bee.
You can't get it.
I don't think back in the old days that women were going like there were lines and lines of men.
There were.
No, I don't think it was that.
But they literally show it.
They didn't have a single person.
It's history.
They don't have apps.
I get it.
I was just trying to say.
No, but it's just a new age nuance of that.
I don't know.
Think about like the when did you spur?
Those poodle skirts or whatever?
50s?
Was that the 50s, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think if you were going steady and shit.
Yeah.
I was having a boyfriend And you had You had You went on a date With one guy You pursued it And then No what do you mean She She was obviously attracted to the jock, and then the nerdy guy got her.
And then they said, have you watched no movie?
Yeah, I mean, have you watched none?
Come on now.
A lot of people.
I watch movies.
Movies are parallel to life in a lot of ways.
Okay.
We get movies from what we do with in real life.
I just think that.
Oh, Billy Ray is in the chat.
What's up, Billy Ray?
Oh my gosh, the singer?
No, not a different person.
Cyrus?
Look, just to me, it's like, look, okay, we talk, if you talk about chivalry, right?
In order to be chivalrous, you gotta like the woman has to be a lady.
You have to look up the lady.
Then you're a lady.
You gotta roster five dudes.
I'm not fucking them.
Like, we're not doing any of that.
I'm just going on.
So, what's the difference between me having uh going out to dinner or lunch or whatever five times a week with guys I'm dating versus like going out to with a friend for lunch or dinner five times a week?
Because it's different.
You are being pursued and you are pursuing romantic relationships with multiple men.
Yeah.
That as a guy makes me feel like, oh, okay, I don't know about that.
I would immediately drop my roster if I knew that the guy that I'm dating today was serious about me and was giving me all of his attention and energy.
I would immediately like not even pay attention to anybody else, but that's not what's happening.
Ask him.
Text him right.
He would have to ask her to be his girlfriend.
While she's writing that, can I say the definition of chivalrous?
I just like to say the definition because people use this word.
Websters or artists.
I mean, whatever.
Courteous and gallant, especially towards women, typically used for man or his behavior, relating to the historic notion of chivalry, which was actually just like what knights would do.
So to be fair, that's not even really the right word.
We want to be courted.
There we go.
Yes, please put that.
Wait, can I ask you a question?
How often do you think about the Roman Empire?
Oh, that, yeah.
Every day.
How often do you buy it?
Just be honest.
Like every day?
Or like how often?
The Roman Empire.
How often do you think about it?
This is a Greek.
I'm just asking.
Please be historically accurate.
Okay, you know what?
I'm just asking about the Roman Empire.
Here, I don't know where to put this.
But how often, for real?
They had that question on TikTok, and I'm just curious, as a man, how often do you think about the Roman Empire?
I'll just say this.
I watched the Roman Empire.
I mean, is it like weekly, a couple times a week?
Well, I was listening to an audio book by Marcus Aurelius.
Meditations.
In fact, I have the book here.
Let me see where it is.
Okay, where is it?
Hold on one sec.
Okay, meditations, right?
Now, listen, I think you would be a big fan of Stoicism.
This is, I don't know, Nick, if you're able to, we'll put it up here.
Marcus Aurelius, meditations, right?
He was, I'd say, one of the best emperors.
Right.
Right.
Emperor?
Was it?
He was emperor, right?
So is it daily, though?
Like, huh?
How often do you think about it?
Just I mean, I think I'm more every at least twice a week.
I'm thinking about it.
I think about it so often.
That is so funny.
I'm more of a zombie apocalypse thing.
I think about that too.
That's why I like to jog.
So if I know that, like, if they're the zombies that drag the leg, I got a good like four like pace.
If I keep my rhythm for about two and a half miles, which is what I normally jog, I can get away from a zombie enough to like get and be safe.
So unless they're the ones that climb on walls, and then I'm going to join them.
Are you texting him right now?
Oh, I texted four.
I'm on the fifth one.
Wait.
Oh, you're texting all of them?
Might as well put it out there.
So for those viewers who are just tuning in, she has four men, excuse me, five men on her roster who she would be, it sounds like, happy to be in a committed, exclusive relationship with.
She is now currently texting all of them.
What did you say?
What's the message?
Was it copy and paste to all of them?
Oh, that's romantic.
Whatever.
I get the point across.
It's communication, right?
So what did you say?
I said, do you want to be exclusive with me, boyfriend and girlfriend?
Oh, okay.
All right.
See, this is so off the question.
I keep saying that.
You're going to end up with someone who you don't like yet.
I like all of them, though.
Yeah, but not enough.
Otherwise, you would have sent this text a while ago.
I've never thought, honestly, I've never thought about asking a guy that I'm dating.
She's been busy.
Do you want to be exclusive boyfriend and girlfriend?
I assume that they would let me know when they wanted to be exclusive.
Yeah, because I never thought to do it.
So this is my first time ever asking a guy.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
That is a good idea.
Gabby, this is growth.
This is growing.
I'm so proud of you.
But that's so sad how us girls need to be the ones like asking this question.
Like that is not a whole lot.
A lot of men are scared to ask the question.
Oh my God.
I don't know how the women feel.
Like are you calling the shots for safe if you were going to be in a relationship with five men on your roster?
Like are you going to be a person?
No, they're not waiting for me.
I was waiting for them.
But now we're going to clear the air.
Yeah, as it should be.
I thought the birds are going to be a little bit more.
I feel like I don't want to be in a relationship until he shows himself the things that I want to see in a husband.
And the guys that are on my roster, if that's the word we're using, haven't shown themselves to be consistent enough to be taken seriously.
My guys have.
I just know that's a good question.
Word.
Word.
Word to your mom.
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Thank you so much, man.
Flan Life, you've been so supportive with all the memberships throughout the months, man.
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How do they do this to you?
I mean, when I'm in a relationship, I don't believe in spending my money on my man.
His money is for me.
My money is for me.
Okay, so that means when we go out, we go on dates, we go shopping, we do whatever, we are using his money.
My money does not get touched.
Okay?
That is just the standard.
Argue with your mama, mama.
Literally, argue with your mama.
I disagree.
Wait, no.
So your money in a relationship or in a marriage, even, your money is your money.
Yeah.
His money is also your money.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is why people get divorced because I turn to.
Well, if I'm a stay-at-home mom not working, how am I going to give him any money anyways?
It's his money.
It's our money.
Yeah, with that context.
Isn't there like a political compass meme about this?
Like, it's you're very libertarian when it comes to your money, but you're communist when it comes to his money.
I don't know if that's exactly how it goes, but maybe somebody in the chat.
I'm just saying, like, my money is not a factor here if he's the one providing financially for our family.
If I'm a stay-at-home mom, a stay-at-home wife, why does my money even matter?
He's the one paying the bills, so he's the one working.
She already has a job.
Yeah, I mean, my job is with my children.
And she's not going to use it.
What do you use?
24-hour job.
What do you use your money to at least buy him something to give, spoil him here and there?
Or you don't even want to use your money for him at all?
She's saying she's not making money.
She's not making money.
How would she do that?
Well, ending you were like a website hustle.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to birthday gifts.
I've said that on my TikTok before.
I'm not opposed to getting birthday gifts and making you feel special, but I don't feel like my role and job as a woman is going to make a man feel special just because I spent money on him.
That's how I want to be loved.
Spend money on me and I'll love you for sure.
But I don't think it's the opposite because I feel like the men, just men in general that I've dealt with and dated, they don't really feel like especially loved if I'm spending money on them.
I don't think that's their love language.
I feel like they like when I cook for them, if I kiss them, give them hugs, like be affectionate.
I feel like that's what they feel loved for.
Money is not really a factor in them feeling loved.
It's a factor in me feeling loved.
So it's just different.
So I think you would just have to learn about the guy.
Like if I need to learn my men's love language, but at the same time, like man go through a lot of stuff.
He needs to do stress.
And I don't mind using our money.
We're in a marriage, our money for me to go and buy him stuff.
Even, you know, like, and treat my man right.
And that includes spending some money on my man, too.
Yeah, I mean, when you're married, my money is your money anyways.
And even if we're not married, I and I want to give him something, give him something that he's like, oh, I really want this, or, you know, help him.
I feel like money is a resource to be able to do something for others.
It's not the only way to give, though.
Money is not the only way to give.
But I think your love language has a lot to do with this conversation.
Excuse me.
Sorry about that.
I think, you know what?
I actually, it's very rare for a woman to want to simp in the same way that I guess guys will.
I kind of like it, though, if a woman simps.
Don't get me wrong.
Like, it's, it's so rare that it's not something I'm ever looking for.
Like, it's not like I'm disappointed if it's not there, but it's kind of, I don't know if I've really encountered it really.
I mean, there's different ways to simp.
You can kind of simp by the way you act.
What does that mean?
But also to like simp.
I love a simp.
I'm going to marry a simp.
This.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
If a woman just like came in and she's like, Brian, let me fucking spoil you.
I'd be like, cool.
Yeah, that happens to like in LA, especially, we've got a lot of men who love that kind of thing.
Yeah.
Like, I make my own money.
I'm good.
But if a chick just wants to let me fin dumb her, like, we're cool.
And then she's like, you know what?
Get on your knees eating this freaking coach.
That's not happening.
Well, guess what?
You lost out on your sugar mama.
But I'm willing to do that.
Wait, whoa, you're willing to do what?
I'm willing to please my man in the way he finds that he needs to be pleased.
If I'm in love with him and he's taking care of me, we're going to work out whatever we need to do.
Do you want you some money?
Money does make me feel very sexy.
That's the D. If this is my man and he's like, here, babe, go buy what you want.
Yeah, I'm no issue.
On the way there, road, road, road business.
But here's the thing.
Like, I simp in my own way.
Like, I might not simp with money, but I'm going to simp with my entire energy.
You know, everything I'm going to give everything to you.
Like, like I said, if you wake up in the middle of the night and you need some food, like, babe, everything's taken care of for me.
I'm going to do that.
You'll cook in the middle.
I love, I love, I love catering and giving to my man and loving on him.
Maybe it's not necessarily economically, although I do do that as well.
I love, I love that.
That makes me feel good to love on him.
Yeah, but money goes into buying those stuff.
Sometimes it does, but if like what she says, like, so let's say I'm not modeling anymore and now I have to live off of his stuff.
It's still going to be his money that I buy stuff with.
Oh, yeah, I'll fix you up with your money for sure.
Oh, but I don't find myself here not making money.
Did you hear back from any of the guys yet?
It's on silent.
Let's see what they said.
Nope.
Nothing.
Okay, we'll check back in later.
Nope.
We'll check back in later.
Tell you what, as a compromise, I will say this.
I will pay for the first date.
Uh-oh, we changed his mind.
Yes.
If she has a large labia, just saying.
And how are you going to know that?
Exactly.
So that's the risk you're willing to take.
She's going to have to.
All right, great.
Sounds good.
So, ladies, all you have to do is tell him what your vagina looks like and he'll be happy.
I'll send you a Google pic.
It's going to be someone else's.
A Google pic?
Oh, we do that, by the way.
We'll tell.
Send other pictures of people.
I think women need to start getting revenge on men for the dick pics.
I've never sent it to you.
Oh, yeah, revenge.
I think women should get revenge.
Exactly.
That's what it is.
Unsolicited pussy pics.
My DMs are open, ladies.
You know what I do?
I take a screened video between the legs.
And the revenge that I have is having now a video of your junk that I can now share.
It's not gentlemanly?
Do you want me to do that?
You're not a lady, but that's not done.
I'm not doing that.
Yeah, no pussy pics?
No.
That's not gentlemanlike.
You want a lady?
It's giving I want to pay half.
I'm just saying, I think, I think.
You got to act like a gentleman if you want a lady.
You should start sending pussy pics.
That's all I'm saying.
It's revenge.
It's a revenge thing.
Just to me.
You know why?
You can never have sent nudes to any other man.
You can never, after you meet me, even if we break up, you have to become a nun after you date me.
That's the degree to which I demand, that's what I demand from women.
You heard it here, guys.
Even after we break up, it's over for you.
You cannot date other men.
You have to become a nun.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, maybe after dating you, someone might want to become a nun.
That could be.
Yeah, they'll be traumatized.
That could.
Lord, I give my life.
Jesus, at least you'll pay off the wife.
I've seen the darkness.
I don't want no more darkness.
It could be the case.
Sometimes I also turn the women gay.
You know what?
And then you have to look in the mirror about that one, baby boy.
You know?
Because it's probably because I refuse to eat pussy.
You saying that, I actually had a woman proposition herself as the man that I want, but a woman recently.
And I had to think long and hard about it.
Oh.
Like, she was a breadwinning woman.
She owns a lot of stuff.
She's actually kind of a cute girl.
I'm heterosexual.
But we had a moment one time in a bar, and I was just like, oh, well, that was kind of a cute moment.
And she literally propositioned me, like, I want to take you on a date.
Like, I want to take you out.
Like, I want to spoil you.
Like, I look out for my women.
I'm like, I want you to have a dick because that sounds great.
Yeah.
But she doesn't.
And now I'm kind of conflicted.
Yeah.
I'll give you an example, right?
So FDG, the woman who's been like gifting all the subs or whatever.
Thanks, FDG.
You don't agree with you.
I don't know if she's still watching, but like, if we're not like, we haven't met or anything, but if we were to date, if we were to meet, like, even if we only like, I let her like go buy me some five guys or whatever, and I never talk to her again, like, she has to remain committed to me for the rest of her life.
What are you talking about?
I'm saying she cannot move on.
Like, she.
Why?
Why?
What are you talking about?
Once we have that soul tie of having a first date, she has to become a nun.
You don't even believe in a nun.
She has to commit.
No, no.
She has to be.
This is post-breakup commitment.
Okay.
She cannot remarry.
She cannot get involved with another man.
She has to be fully committed to me.
This is what, I don't know, they get married.
You don't even believe in marriage.
This is like the ultimate.
That's like your idea.
I had someone in the sauna tell me that same thing.
Well, what if you guys are married for five years and he's doing all that, but then he decides he wants to open the relationship.
And I'm like, okay, well, then he's going to have to risk that I'm opening the relationship too.
Well, you can't go do stuff.
Okay, so what?
He wants to open the relationship for him, but I'm not going to.
Because at the end of the day, let's say we open the relationship, we meet five people, I can fuck all five.
You might fuck one.
Huh?
That's just a fact because the chances of me being able to get some is going to be higher than obviously a man.
It's easy for people to be able to do that.
So he wants to be open for women too.
He wants to open up the marriage and be like, well, I can do whatever I want, but that's why they cheat instead of telling you, let's be open.
Let's watch another video.
We got another video.
We got so many.
See if I can get, I don't know if we're going to get quicker with it.
You're hairy.
So I'm going in a sexy gallery.
I'm going to be able to get away with a guy.
And the first date was dinner in a movie.
Super respectful, really nice.
Makes at least $300,000 a year, which is definitely around my range.
And Doing an activity and getting dinner.
And I just have to say, though, like, I don't know if I'm feeling jaded today or if I've just done this routine so much that at this point I'm just like, let's get to the point.
Like, let's get further along without you being an idiot and messing this up for us.
But then it's like, okay, this is life.
You know, this is literally part of life.
And I want to encourage you.
If you're in a strong relationship, don't let petty problems break you up because these streets ain't for everybody.
Not everybody has the strength to date in modern dating today.
And when I tell you the nonsense that I run into dating guys, it's just like, I'm so over it.
It's so bored.
But this guy's usually nice.
So wish me luck.
Agreed.
How did that is that one of the roster guys?
Yeah, that's the roster.
He hasn't done anything bad yet.
He's followed all of my rules for dating.
And he's been a perfect gentleman.
And you just text him?
I texted everybody.
He follows your rules?
Honestly, I didn't even tell him anything about me.
This is just natural.
He just knew the rules.
Yeah, he's just a gentleman.
What is the reverse of that?
Like, what are the rules that you follow?
I guess.
My rules, I feel like, well, I don't go, like, I don't want to hang out at my house or your house when we just started dating.
Like, I think that's a little bit too much for you to be in my space because I don't know you like that.
You know, I'm not having sex with you.
Like, this, like, we're not doing all of that because I'm not too casual.
Like, you know, I want to preserve myself and save myself for someone who's ready to get married, someone who's ready for a strong, committed relationship.
So I prefer to date in that way versus just kind of hooking up and things like that.
So I think those would be like my rules, like just to be feminine, supportive, submissive, and, you know, being a pleasant date.
And honestly, I'm a great date.
Like, I'm super funny, super respectful.
You're always going to enjoy your time with me.
I feel like I have a lot of great qualities, a lot of things to offer.
And mostly it's good unless, you know, it goes bad.
So.
Okay.
Good times.
Good times.
Did you hear back from any of the guys?
Yeah, anything?
While you do that, we'll pull up the next EO here.
How many of these are?
Okay.
We'll only watch a portion of this one.
Go ahead, Nick.
Ladies, you have to train the man from the beginning to pay for stuff for you.
No, don't think it's cute being 50-50 in the beginning because you think he's going to be grateful enough and show gratitude towards you later and pay for the whole thing.
He's not gonna, okay?
He's not gonna.
That man is going to continue to rely on you for the duration of your relationship, however long that is.
I had a friend recently, a good friend of mine, basically tell me that her man is pissed that she's not working because she's just had his child, just had a baby, and is breastfeeding and wants to spend time with her baby before going to work.
And she doesn't want to leave her kid with a stranger to have to go to work.
Which y'all know that is like number.
Yeah.
You got to train the man.
How do you train the man though?
Isn't it just like something the guy is going to get?
You can't keep it.
Like, how would you train me?
Train me.
Go.
Okay.
So the training stops when you're not willing to do what it takes to please me.
So when I, so when I say train, I mean, I am allowing you, I'm not going to fake.
You know how some people, some women, like they'll go on a first date and they'll fake pay, like, oh, I'm reaching their, I don't do that.
I expect you to pay.
So I'm sitting here like this with a smile when the check comes.
I'm not going in my purse.
So that's the way I train.
So it's like, I'm looking at you, I'm giving you a smile, and you're going to know this has to be paid.
I'm going to go into my wallet and pay this.
I'm going to keep talking.
I'm just okay.
And so, another way I feel like I would train is, you know, if I want, and I'm not really a stickler on men opening doors for me.
I like it.
It's nice.
But if I wanted to do that, I wouldn't, if we like stopped and we were about to get out, I would just sit there and wait for you to get out and then walk around and then open the door for me.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Question.
Can we roleplay a date?
Okay, sure.
So end of the date, right?
End of the date.
So.
Can I be the waiter?
Yeah, sure.
Here's your guys' check.
I hope you enjoyed your meal.
Oh.
Thanks.
What is that?
Your phone?
No, that's the check.
Oh, you want me?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you know what?
Gosh, let me go to the bathroom real quick.
I have to pee.
Oh, I got a P2.
Now you're trying to get off.
Oh, it's a race.
Okay, okay.
Here's a different, different scenario.
Different scenario.
Let's say, okay, the check's already come.
Whatever, it's in the middle of the table.
That's the check.
And I pull out my wallet here.
Oh, oh, I don't have any cash and I don't have any cards on me.
Could you get this one?
Yeah, for sure.
You'll never see me again, buddy.
Oh, you'll see me.
So you would never see me.
In that scenario, I kind of would have pity on him because it must have been really embarrassing for him to tell me that.
Like a guy doesn't take out a girl that he likes and wants to say, I don't have enough money to cover this.
Can you cover it?
I know his pride is like bruised.
His ego is bruised.
And in that case, I would definitely pay.
I wouldn't question it.
So sorry.
Here's another scenario.
This is some gangster shit, right?
So the guy arrives.
More often than not, would you say you arrive on time to the date?
Yes.
Or, okay.
So let's say the guy arrived early to the spot.
You ubered over, so he got there a bit early.
He goes to the waiter and he, before even the dates, you don't know this, right?
But he tells the waiter, bring two checks at the end of the date.
So you don't know.
Okay.
But the waiter comes and brings two checks.
So the waiter goes, here's a check for you.
And then obviously the waiter gives you.
That's happened to me before.
Now, in that situation, what do you do?
Because he has the check in his hand, obviously, for his bill.
Then are you going to like, are you going to like do that?
No, I wouldn't.
Like, because if that was the case, if that, if they, because the only time that's ever happened where they split the check when I'm with a man is because he went and told them.
But typically, when a waiter comes to a table and they see a man and a woman, they're going to give the man the check.
I've never ever been at a table with a man and they've given me the check.
It's always been the man.
But what would you do in that situation?
Would you still be upset if the guy I would be highly upset, but I wouldn't show it.
I would be, I would end the date pleasantly and respectfully.
I'm going to pay it because it's not about the money.
It's about him as a person.
I'm trying to get to know him as a person and he's that kind of person.
I don't need a date.
I don't need a second date from him.
So yes, I would pay and then I would never see him again.
They can sell you.
Even though it was kind of like what if it was the waiter's fault, you know?
Oh, then he would already snatch it immediately.
Exactly.
That's true.
But if that happened, that's happened before, like one time, like the waiter, that did happen.
And I just like, okay, after the date or whatever, it was kind of like a day out.
I texted him and was like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm sorry.
Is everything okay?
Like, are you, you know, are you going through, you know, a financial strain or something going on with you?
Like, is everything okay?
And immediately, he's like, what do you mean?
No, I'm good.
And he's like, oh, okay, because I was like, I thought that you maybe didn't really have the money to cover dinner because you didn't, you weren't, I'm the one that, you know, put my card down or whatever.
He's like, oh, no, I, I, he immediately, he's like, oh, I just forgot my card in the car or whatever.
And then he like sells me the more than enough to cover both of our meals.
And I think, again, it's out of pride.
Like a man who likes a woman who takes her on a date, he doesn't want to be like, oh, yeah, can you pay this for me?
Cause I don't have enough money to date you or to take you on a date.
Instead of that, they'd rather save their pride unless they are the type of brokey who's just like, no, I kind of like it.
My woman pays for every date.
I kind of like it.
You know, I think that's the difference.
Okay.
Well, I have a couple questions.
So obviously, I think we agree.
The guy paying for the first date, that's kind of him being a gentleman, being traditional, right?
I have a couple questions for you guys.
And I think it sounds like all of you, you would prefer the guy, strongly prefer the guy to pay for the first date.
I would not even prefer.
That's the only answer.
That's it has to.
You don't pay for me like me.
Will you take a last guy's, excuse me, will you take his last name?
Yes, of course.
A thousand percent.
Quickly.
Yes.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
All right.
That's traditional.
Would you defer to his leadership?
Yes.
If he's my man, I trust him and yes.
Yes.
Can you just tilt the microphone down a little bit?
It's fun.
Yes, I would.
I think that for so long I've been independent and kind of called my own shot.
So it might be an adjustment period.
I'm not going to lie.
It might be an adjustment to kind of learn to lean on his leadership.
It might be a little bit more difficult for me in the beginning because I'm used to being an independent boss babe.
Huh.
What about this kind of relates to the last question?
Would your husband have final say in household matters?
Yes.
Depends what they want.
Which household matters.
For example, let's say I'm paying all the bills.
I'm you're just doing what you do, I guess.
Really?
I'm the man.
I'm the man.
I say yes.
I'm paying all the bills and I'm the breadwinner, blah, blah, blah.
Let's say I don't want our children.
I want our children homeschooled.
I don't want to send them to public school.
I love it.
I'm with it.
I prefer that.
Let's do that.
Well, okay.
So in this scenario, you actually agree with that.
But like, let's say maybe you're like, I don't know.
Maybe I'd like to go have them in public school.
But my, I was like, no, I'm very firm with this.
I don't want them to go to public school.
If he had the money for a tutor, someone to homeschool the kids in case I didn't really want to or whatever, and we had the money to get help in that area, then yes.
I'm going to trust what he says.
If I chose this man to be my husband, that means we already went through a vetting process that I'm going to trust whatever he's saying is right.
If he's the type of man who's a breadwinner at the point that I'm expecting, then if he's saying, you know, I think this, I'm going to already assume that he's already wagered either way, and I'm going to trust him because I'm already in the relationship with him.
So I'm going to know that he's not just going to have a no reason for it.
There's going to be a valid reason and I'm going to trust him for that.
But I appreciate a conversation for sure.
But ultimately, I married you, so I trusted you with my life and my body and who I am in my entire career.
So I'm trusting him about other things shouldn't be a problem.
I would hope that he also trusts me as his wife and his spouse to make good decisions and to, and he would like, he would value my opinion because I am a smart and intelligent woman.
So I would hope that I married a man that does respect what I have to say and what I think.
I would hope that.
Someone who's considerate of your thoughts.
Okay.
Working it out.
I think in general, though, I mean, I do want a leader.
It makes me feel better to multiply what you're giving me rather than having to get it myself.
Okay.
Good times.
And then sometimes it feels great to say, you know what?
I was right.
You should have listened to me.
Yeah.
We have a chat here from FDG.
Want to be my boyfriend.
Yeah.
Who are you asking?
You.
She asked him when we were making those jokes.
She's into you.
Are you short and Asian and Chevy kinda?
She might be looking.
No, I'm kidding.
That's cute.
I don't think she's any of you.
This is kind of like a love connection for you.
It could be.
It could be.
She's my sugar moment.
And no, honestly, she's giving you what she want.
She's paying more than half.
She's paying for you to exist right now.
I think she wants a green card, to be honest.
I mean, hey, here's the deal.
She might give you 10 grand for it too.
Go for it.
Well, the Argentina peso.
Okay, we have a question here from Stiffler.
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
I'm a 10.
Say louder for the people in the back.
I'm a 10.
I think it depends on what city I'm in.
Yeah, I think it depends on what city I am.
I'm in a number still.
Like, boise, I'm easy at a 10.
Okay.
Yeah.
What about you?
If I'm judging it based on beauty standards, I am definitely a three.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
An eight.
That was a very timid eight, but okay.
I think she's a 10 too.
I give myself a six.
Six, yeah, I'm a six.
Compared to who?
Who are you comparing these two?
Like that's what I'm saying.
Like when I answer that question, I'm like, according to beauty standards, if you ask me if I feel like I disregard European-centric, like Eurocentric beauty standards, I don't even follow because I'm a queen where I come from.
So you're a queen.
I'm a queen.
Yeah, I guess if we're to like put everybody else's opinions into it, they might rate me like a six or a seven.
Oh, I feel like what would you say?
Every region is different.
Are we talking about right?
And in the Caribbean, I'm a queen.
In Africa, I'm a European.
I'm a 10.
So it depends on what people group we're concerned for.
Like, I just, you know, some places, yeah, I may not be as attractive as they would like, but in some places, I'm top tier.
So it really just depends.
So wait, 10 and 10.
You two, three?
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
According to beauty standards, I'm just talking about my group and my genre.
Yeah, I'm a 10 in my group and my genre.
Like if you're attracted to women who are plus size, I think that I'm well just like overall though.
That's why I said like if you're talking about regular beauty standards as far as like Western society, I mean I'm already chubby.
I'm black.
Like my hair is curly.
Like usually, you know, it depends on what people prefer.
Some people prefer curly hair, but, you know, our society doesn't necessarily.
Question: Are all women tens?
No.
Why not?
No.
Because some women don't take care of themselves.
Some women look raggedy when they walk out.
Some people look like the maid.
Like, what are we doing?
Shut up.
Come on.
You know, like, some people just don't know about upkeep.
Like, they're not doing anything.
So, yeah, I wouldn't call every woman a 10.
And also, how you feel about yourself, I think, has to do a lot with it.
And I feel high about myself.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Gabby, you're beautiful on the inside, but come on.
Nobody's a 10 at this table.
There's no 10s.
There's no 10s at the end of the day.
I would say that was disagreeing with me.
The men that date me make me feel like I'm a 10.
Like, they're constantly telling me how gorgeous everything about me is.
My curves, my face, my skin, like everything.
So I feel like a 10 with the men that I date.
So that makes me feel like a 10 everywhere.
That's true.
Good.
A man should make a posted that too.
I was like, I don't need to be pretty to everyone, but I want to be fine as fuck to him.
Yeah.
And that's fine for me.
So I'm going to be someone's 10.
Exactly.
Are you judging us based on beauty standards, Brian?
You don't think we're 10s?
You are.
Well, I think you, the three.
That seems like a reasonable self-assessment.
I'd say that's fair.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not trying to be mean.
I just don't think either of you are tens.
I don't think I'm a 10.
I'm not sitting over here thinking offended.
Yeah, I'm mad item half.
Okay.
I mean, it's coming from someone who's not paying for the date, baby.
Like, you got a lot of two.
You ain't paying for the date.
So I'm just like, I'm not a fan of that.
And we do that sometime.
He looks good, but he's going halfway up.
We went out one time and there was like this fine ass man.
He was like an NBA player level, like fine.
And me and her are like shit talking, like, you know, he ain't paying for the date.
You know, he's going 50-50.
Which one?
Oh, I mean, okay.
We go out.
Wait, let's get the T.
This guy looked like a character.
LeBron?
Sorry.
Doesn't LeBron like have a wife and like three baby mama?
I'm like, no.
But I just mean like we just go out and like, you know, you would think that a really hot, attractive guy we would want to have some kind of interaction with.
But immediately, I just know it's going to be because he's so fine, he's used to women simping for him.
And he's thinking, like, I don't really have to put much effort in because I'm super tall.
I'm super handsome.
Like, I'm used to women even asking me out on dates and paying.
So like a guy, kind of guy like that, I feel like he's just, you know, he's not going to give as much.
And like, I'm not going to, I'm not trying to like pre-judge or anything.
I just mean like from experience, I've noticed that.
And I am not interested in that.
So I don't care how fine you are.
You're not doing anything for me.
Yeah.
Okay.
And we're not for everyone.
Yeah.
Everyone's not for everyone.
You got to get in where you're fitting.
Yep.
You know who's a 10?
Who?
This doll right here?
The three of us.
She is.
Men love her because she doesn't say anything.
She's just six.
Like a woman 10?
Yeah.
A woman 10.
It's a tough one.
It's a tough one.
I like to say young Kristen Krueck.
Who's that?
Yeah.
I don't know if she's a 10, but she's very attractive, I think.
Who's a 10?
The guy that holds her.
What's the difference?
I feel like you're almost afraid to call someone a 10.
You're like reserving it for someone.
I don't think, well, 10 is perfect, so I don't think anybody's perfect.
How are we not all perfect?
We're all exactly how we're supposed to be.
We don't question.
You're going to find you're all perfect.
There's no perfect.
Doesn't that all make us perfect in that way, though?
Like, if you see a dog, you don't be like, oh, you know, the tail's too short, the tail's too long, whatever.
You just accept it as being a dog, and it's perfect in that way.
How are we not humans the same thing?
It's different.
Okay.
Yeah.
Disappearing.
People have flaws.
I mean, obviously, we're talking about physical traits, but people have flaws, you know?
But so do everyone.
How does that not make it like, how is that not?
For me, I see that as beauty.
I love the flaws.
I love the things that make us unique and different.
Sure, but you know.
When you find the one, she's going to be a 10.
Oh, for you.
No, no, she's going to be a heavy six.
She's going to be half.
She's going to be a 10 for you.
Is that 10 for you?
I think, no, but it's not like.
You'll be surprised.
No, because there's a sort of almost an objective assessment that you can make of people's physical attractiveness.
So me personally, I don't think that I view myself as like pretty average looking, average guy.
Realistically, I'll probably get with a girl who's comparable looks-wise, who's plus or minus a point looks-wise.
Like a five, a six?
Between five and seven, I guess.
I think that's within.
Okay.
So you round it up.
What do you mean?
Well, you didn't.
You said you think you're a what?
Six.
Six.
So instead of saying a three to four, you round it up to a sex six to seven, five to seven.
Well, I said, I mean, I feel like it's fair.
You can probably go plus or minus in either direction.
But I'm not going to land a girl who's a 10.
I mean, I feel like that your mindset, you're absolutely right.
Anything you say.
Do you think it's a self-limiting mindset?
I do.
Or do you think it's just a realistic pragmatic mindset?
No, I do.
I have my own experience from when I didn't love myself to when I did.
And so I was attracting men and who I attract now.
Question for you.
I'm 34 right now.
Do you think that, yeah, old man shit over here?
I'm a fucking, I'm a boomer.
Do you think if my mindset was strong enough, I could become a professional NBA player?
If your mindset was strong enough?
At 34, do you think I'd...
Hell no!
There's just, I'm just being realistic.
Like, I don't think I'm going to get a woman who's like exceptionally, like in the one percentile.
Believe me.
You're probably not going to like her inside and her personality, but you I honestly think you could, because in in today's society, especially when you're thinking about girls, we think are tens, a lot of them like even her.
People consider to be her, to be a 10, but she could rated herself a six and so a lot of those women who society deems really beautiful they have are eight sorry eight, but a lot of them have low self-esteem.
So they'll be looking at me wondering why i've got higher self-esteem than the girl who they consider to be prettier, which means you actually probably could pull someone who's better looking than what you think.
That's true.
That's why I slide a Dm sometimes.
You never know, you never know.
I break, I think, typically women.
I think typically women don't unless the guy is bringing a lot of wealth or status.
Women typically don't date down when it comes to physical.
So you acknowledge that you don't have wealth and status.
i i have a youtube channel but like when i'm talking like a guy who a guy has to have and then quite a high level of status like if i tell a girl what i do that's not going to that's not going to elicit like a insanely strong attraction response to the same way that someone who's like a top tier musician or professional athlete or act
I'd prefer your job description over any of those other ones.
Personally yes, but once you got to you want to go have, then you've lost me.
I like men that are good at good with nothing darn.
I was really hoping.
I felt like a spark.
I did.
I was feeling it too, but now we just fucking have to leave it where it's at.
But i'll miss you.
I also don't eat pussy, so that's kind of a yeah, so that was a no-go, that was a no-go immediately.
Is that a deal break for you guys if the guy doesn't eat pussy?
I've dated a guy who didn't before.
It was, it was tough, he was a.
Sounds like it was tough, it was tough, sounds like cool.
Dude, I don't know.
I feel like after a few years of marriage you'll just be like whatever.
No, it's like whatever, like I feel like you'd go down.
You'd eventually go down, eventually go down.
If i'm the only woman that you're sleeping with and being intimate with, you'll be like i'm bored.
Let's try more to tape like, how are you not attracted?
I feel like that's a manly thing, to want to be attracted to, that like to be attracted to.
I've never met a man that I never.
That seems manly to me.
That's sexy, I think.
If it wasn't the, if we weren't in this dating climate where people are dating and sleeping with a bunch of other people that's the issue there's a high rate of infidelity.
It makes me very hesitant to uh, engage in that sort of behavior.
And look, even with I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons, but even with a girl who you've been dating, there's obviously you never fucking know there could be infidelity.
Also, it's like look, if you're.
It's kind of like look, if you're fucking a girl and you're coming inside her right ew, why are you not using a condom?
What is happening?
Hello, birth control hello no hello hello, hello.
I don't.
Well, if she's your girlfriend, you know, but like I don't want to go down on a girl after i've fucking, why not do it before?
No no no, i'm not.
I'm just saying like, I like my men a little nasty that way.
Well, okay.
What i'm saying is, for example, if we are having sex regularly throughout the, throughout the weekend, nuts be busted.
Yeah, busting.
Yeah, nuts are getting busted right, Jesus, i'm so fucking vulgar okay, uh.
Like the next day, it lingers.
Yeah, great.
It lingers.
It changes up the pH balance a little bit.
But if that's your continuous girlfriend, then you should be comfortable and familiar with that.
Because you're right, it does.
We also form to your side.
That shit will drop out like a day later sometimes.
I mean, that's who you've been dating.
I don't necessarily deal with that issue.
Would you like to kiss your girlfriend after she sucks your dick?
Nope.
You're crazy.
Sexual.
I would be honest with you.
You're doing like a germ of hang-ups.
I would kiss.
I would kiss a guy after he did that with me.
And I'm not even going to lie.
Just go further and respectfully, this is probably a little too far, but I actually like, I'm not going to say that.
Oh, snowballing?
What?
No, not snowballing, but if they go, if my man goes down on me and he kisses me, I like that taste.
That's like filling it.
I like myself.
I always make sure that I know that.
Yeah, some girls like to taste themselves, you know?
Like if you're fingering a girl and putting her on.
What, huh?
I didn't say that shit.
I didn't argue.
Look, look, look, look.
No, honestly, if a girl goes down on me, I don't want to.
Because your dick is so gross that you can't handle it in your mouth.
No, I shower every single day.
I shower before my girl comes over.
It's just like.
You don't like germs?
It's like.
I wouldn't suck my own dick, son.
So it's like, huh?
You wouldn't if you could?
No, I wouldn't suck my own dick.
What's his name?
What's that one singer who moved to so he could?
I think that's like a urban legend.
But no, look, it's like she just sucked.
Like, if I came in her mouth, that's like for sure, no.
But even if there was no you showered, what's the problem?
You showered.
Why did you come?
There's pre-com.
I don't know.
That's your own germs.
That's your stuff.
Yeah, but I don't want to taste my girlfriend.
Did you know that you have taste buds on your balls, by the way?
No, what?
You've got taste buds on your balls, and we have them in our vaginas, too.
Huh?
Yeah.
So it's like, listen, if you take your balls and dip them in soy sauce, you can taste the salt.
Swear to God.
Swear to God, I'm randomly smart.
I saw that.
It was like a trend.
It's a fucking trend.
A lot of guys were doing it.
And women have it too.
We have it too.
We can taste like what.
Like, let's say, like.
Ladies, do not put soy sauce in your pussy first off.
But if you did, you would taste it.
But if you did, you would taste it.
That shit would fuck you up.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Yeah, you'll taste the salt or like something sweet.
You can taste it in your mouth.
What?
I don't think I'm going to try that.
And vice versa.
I mean, they're connected.
Hello.
In any case, I don't want to kiss a girl after she went down on me.
Well, I don't want to kiss a guy unless he's put his balls in the soy sauce.
Word.
Good times.
They're both being ridiculous.
Good times.
I'll know where.
How did we get to this?
I don't even know.
We were talking.
I don't know what we were talking about.
Oh, the deal breakers, right?
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Don't pay for the first date.
Dude, don't go down on a girl.
There's no child.
I got neck problems too, so that makes sense.
You look like you have neck problems.
I got, wow, I'm hurt.
I'm a little hurt.
It looks like...
Never mind.
Okay.
Okay.
Where was I going with this?
What does that even mean?
It looks like you have neck.
It didn't mean anything.
Sometimes I say random stuff.
Somebody, it looks like you have a hand problem.
Yeah.
Or like sometimes I just say your mom.
Your mom.
Yeah, it's always your perception.
You can be insulted.
Okay.
I'm deeply hurt and offended.
Wait, we have.
Sorry.
Shit, I'm trying to pull up my notes here.
Free.
You never told FDG whether you want to be her boyfriend or not.
She's avoiding you.
He's avoiding you.
It's not.
I think it sounds like bullshit.
I had my boyfriend do it when I dated him.
When I had my last boyfriend, I asked him to do it and he could taste it.
He was surprised then he had his best friend do it.
Oh my God.
Yeah, but couldn't you also say that he was like smelling?
No, no.
So it's not that you taste specifically soy sock.
You'll just taste the salt.
You know what I mean?
Like, you'll have the salty flavor in your mouth.
Why don't you give it a try and like, let me know how it goes?
I think this is just a ploy to get me to put my balls in soy sauce.
This is a ploy to see if you've got balls at all.
I'd rather just not put my balls in soy sauce.
You know, just not doesn't seem like a great Wednesday afternoon to me.
Maybe it's a Tuesday activity.
We're going to pass on that.
But you know what?
Think about it.
I'll think about it.
Maybe if FDG pays you to do it.
Listen, I'm open-minded if that's her kink.
I love that.
Yeah, you know, like, listen, if your girl, she's got a little something interesting that she likes to do.
Like long head.
Huh?
Oh.
No, no, no, not that.
not that but look if if my girl if if this girl that i love and care about she's got a little something kinky that she wants to do maybe she's got now obviously there's just some golden showers What about pegging you and whipping you?
Golden flowers.
That's a no.
What about calling you her little bitch boy and stuff?
That is definitely a no.
What about peeing on you?
Nope.
Oh my goodness.
I might be willing to pee on a woman, though.
What about choking you?
Nope.
Do you have any handcuffs?
Here's the thing, right?
I don't think I could be, it would be like anything where I'm submissive.
I don't think I would like that in the bed.
I don't think that's good.
And yet you want to go half.
You make it make sense.
Jesus Christ.
And he wants her to submit.
Get a zoom in on that.
That's exactly what we need.
Thank you.
That was the most.
I want you to go half and then something.
I wish you would.
That's actually the submission with the 50-50 answer.
Zoom in!
Give him the zoom in.
Oh, ladies and gentlemen.
Look at the face right there if he wants you to submit, but wants you to pay also.
It's always different in the bed versus a date.
Always different.
We're having a ball with you.
This was so funny.
That was so funny.
You know?
I mean, people are also laughing.
People watching are also laughing.
Everyone online is laughing too.
Yeah, they're laughing.
Look.
Well, I'm not even making a face.
Exactly.
Nothing to be said.
Here's the thing, right?
You could actually argue that it's the most dominant thing you could do.
No, God.
Please.
That's some dominant shit.
You pay for the date.
You pay for the date.
Broke boy.
I don't want no broke boy.
I don't want a broke boy.
That is like, that's it's fin dom.
Findom.
Where do I feel that I can be submissive to you?
The reason why someone might submit is because they feel protected and they feel safe.
How do I protect it, feel protected or safe to be submissive to you?
Here's the thing, right?
It's almost like here's the social order, right?
The social order is tradition, man should pay for the date.
However, you view me in a way you want me so fucking bad that you're going to pay for the date.
That's what I'm talking about when it comes to this level.
We stopped dating those guys.
I know I have.
I'm pretty sure she has.
We've stopped.
I don't know.
She's not been dating.
No, but do you see what I'm talking about?
But we've stopped dating.
Do you see what I'm talking about?
There are men like you.
You want me so bad that you are willing to break your desire for this social.
It never works out.
It never works out because at the end of the day, that's the spaces of our relationship.
And now when I want to go out, can you afford it?
Or you want to go half?
Or I don't really want to go because you want to stay inside and play video games because you don't have money to go out there.
See, but this is dominant.
That's control.
Thank you.
Come on.
For generation, whatever they said in her.
That's the man's problem.
Where's your little bump on that?
Message.
Come on, put the bump.
Message.
Put the bumpy.
Message.
Put the bump.
The person who's dominant has control.
Yeah, but at the same time, you're saying it's a pass control.
Yeah.
What's that?
I'm glad.
Sorry.
Like, I was, what did you just say about submissive control?
No, she said me or her.
Her, yeah.
What did you just say?
Repeat what you just said.
I don't remember what I just said.
I don't remember.
I like lost my thoughts.
I lost my thing.
We were talking about a man who wants to have dominance, but then wants you to go half.
And I said, how can you feel safe or protected and want to be submissive in a place where a man's not making you feel like you're taken care of?
That's my point was.
I don't know where we were going from there, but I liked what you had to say, but we lost it.
Well, you know what's interesting, though, is it's almost like, you know, if we're talking about dominance, submission, et cetera, it is, women have a lot of soft power when it comes to relationships.
And you kind of wish to hide the fact that women, like, women have a lot of soft power.
I don't want to hide it.
I want to embrace it.
I want to use it for good, not evil.
But the fact that men have to pay in this way, it is like a soft power that women have.
You have a lot of control over men.
I mean, to be fair, you also came wearing your sweatpants and your button up to the date.
Disrespectfully, men don't think about as much.
We put it a lot into going on these dates.
Yeah.
Like I've already spent the $60 to show up.
Makeup.
$60.
I'm thinking a little more than that.
But I'm just saying.
Makeup is expensive.
It is, but not only put all that much.
But we end up putting up more because our brands require us to show more.
But as a woman, I mean, we did our hair our name.
What if I brought my CCW?
Your what?
My concealed carry.
What does that have to do?
What?
Huh?
That shit costs money, son.
But what does it have to do with the date?
You didn't need it for the date.
What?
What?
What do you mean?
You didn't need the gun.
As a traditional man, I need to protect you.
Traditional money does not have a gun.
You could have a steel cane, get your little...
Steel cane?
Get your, um, what's his name from, um, Anne, Annie, Dr. You can get your daddy warbucks on with the cane.
You don't need to have a gun.
Protect us with your pure brute strength.
Wait, I have a question for you guys.
Do you guys for gun ownership?
Kind of against?
Where do you fall on that?
Against?
I have never touched a gun.
I'm a pacifist.
I would prefer not to touch a gun, but I do feel like people in some scenarios should have the right to a gun.
I personally wouldn't.
They should have more restrictions on them, but I think the reason why we originated having guns is so we could protect ourselves against the government.
So in that case, I do, but I think there should be just like with cops, they should have more regulations and they should do a mental test, et cetera.
More heavy restrictions on having.
But I shot one and it was cool.
So here's the scenario, right?
So you're dating a guy, you're living with him, and your apartment that you're living at, your house you're living at, gets broken into by three men.
Would you prefer your boyfriend in that scenario to have a firearm or to fight, defend you in some other way with his firearm or a steel cane?
I've dated guys with firearms.
I want him to pop a cap in all of their asses.
A cap in the asses.
I don't like violence, but I mean, you broke into my house.
What are you doing to my house?
You broke into the wrong hand.
The guy that I'm dating probably doesn't live in a place that's easily accessible.
That's exactly.
We don't know.
Okay.
I'm not worried about it.
We have one more video from Gabby, then we're going to wrap up the show.
Yay.
Woo-hoo.
There's still, there's actually.
Wait, Tinder match gone wrong.
Do we do this?
Is this a good one or a different one?
It's just a story.
It's like a.
Let's go to the next one, Nick, if you can tab over.
Over.
Oh, God.
We love someone dating.
You can keep the window.
Juice.
Dating men, Los Angeles loser.
Oh, this is yours.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.
We'll play.
Yeah, we'll play a little bit of this.
I have been wasting no time on the dating apps with these LA player loose.
I've been hitting them with this as my Annie is so beautiful, so smart.
How come she can't find a man just like the rest of us?
She makes very good points in all of her videos.
And for all the haters in my comments saying that I don't look good enough and I don't fit the European beauty standards or whatever, Annie sure does.
She's a beautiful, skinny, thin white woman, blonde hair, blue eyes.
I hope you don't mind that I'm describing Annie.
But she.
Oh, actually, let it go for a little bit.
Let me just hear the rest of you.
She's like, gorgeous, inside and out.
Closet.
She is very.
Annie's pretty average looking.
You think she's average?
I think she's pretty.
I think she's not ugly, but she's pretty average looking.
I think she's an average-looking girl.
I love that.
Well, you haven't shown me a 10, what a 10 looks like.
So I don't really know what average looks like.
I don't think he cares about what they look like.
He just wants to make sure they can pay for half.
Well, I don't know what a 10 looks like.
I think she would be considered Euro-centric beauty standards.
I'll give you what I think is a nine.
Okay.
Nick, if you can find young Kristen Krueck.
Is she on a show or something?
Smallville.
Never seen it.
Let me see.
There might be a photo of her in the Dropbox folder.
You love, love her.
Well, you got to have it ready to go.
He's shooting his shot.
You got to have it ready to go.
Sorry, FDG.
Don't get jelly.
She is really pretty.
That's a 10 to you?
That's a 9 to 10.
I'm trying to find.
Scroll down.
There's like a young Kristen Krueck.
This is why types are so creepy.
Because I think she's a type thing.
It's definitely a type thing.
She's pretty, but she's not a 10 in my head.
I think she's good.
The one in the middle there.
Yeah, that one.
Can you move us over?
It's not a bad thing.
She looks like she's 16.
He might be into that.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh my God, bro.
Dude, she's okay.
18-year-old Kristen Kruik.
How about that?
18 to 21-year-old Kristen Kruik.
She looks like a child to me.
I mean, I'm not sure.
There's more photos.
Scroll down.
Yeah, she's really pretty.
She has pretty pictures.
Oh, the one, actually, no, no, no.
Back, go back and click.
I assume she has no makeup on.
Click down a little bit.
I give her a nine.
I think she's a nine.
I think you're into that.
What would make her a 10?
So it makes sense that you would give her a nine.
There is no 10.
There is no 10.
That is your.
Your ideal 9.
Yeah.
If I asked the next guy, he probably wouldn't give me a 10.
If there is no 10, then your 9 is your 10.
That's how a curve works.
So that's what you're after.
She's not a 10.
She is if that's all you got is a 9.
I give her a solid 9.
I give her a 9.
I think, but if there's no 10 exists, you can't.
That's not logical.
If a 10 does not exist, then a 9 is the highest.
Then it's an out of 90 is not a bad thing.
Well, nobody's perfect, right?
Nobody's perfect.
Do you think she's like the closest woman to be a person?
Attractiveness is not about perfection.
I don't know if she...
There's probably...
I would say I could probably find other women who I think are probably more attractive than Kristen Kruick.
However, like, I think she's a very attractive woman.
How about Megan Fox?
When she was younger, yes.
I'd say she's very attractive.
You think she's less attractive because she's older?
Yeah, I mean, that's just reality.
No, I think she still does the same Botox, facials, all the things that you do when you have money.
She was more attractive.
I don't know how old she is.
Oh, I don't know.
So the older you get, the lower in scale.
That's in the ring.
I think that's why they spare a lot of time and they don't.
It's reality.
Look, I think even, I mean, you can make the case that perhaps some men can age gracefully and more attractive.
I would argue that for both men and women, that as you get older, you become less physically attractive.
It's just, that's reality.
I think you become more of a woman.
And I feel like the girls that you've presented here, they look like they're 16.
So yeah, if men are attracted to more pre-pubescent women, I would say, yeah, then that's like not a grown woman.
I'm not saying that like she's not grown, but I'm just saying that looks very, very young.
It looks like my high school brother's friends.
They look very young.
They're undeveloped, which is fine.
But that is something that you're showing that you are attracted to.
This is why it's important to know that beauty face.
There's a biological basis for this.
Men are attracted to youth and fertility.
I got better with time.
Men would even say that.
Like guys from high school and stuff, they think I look better.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think you're going to be more physically attractive in 10 years or now?
It depends on what I do day to day.
If I go hard in the gym, I think I'll probably be more attractive.
No, in 10 years, you're not going to be more attractive in 10 years than you are now.
Okay, that's a bet.
I'll see you in 10 years.
Okay, dude.
I think I'm not going to be more attractive in 10 years.
Just because you are respectfully a white male, I'm going to get better.
Okay, all right.
I mean, look, it's just, it's just the reality.
We age ourselves.
But people age differently.
They do.
You're telling me there's like no woman that's 40 years old right now that you would not like be attracted to.
That's different, though.
Okay, so I'm not saying that you can't be attractive in your 30s or even your 40s.
I've dated women.
I dated a 45-year-old.
Okay.
Granted, she didn't have children.
She was an Asian woman.
But what I'm trying to say is, for example, I think in the vast majority of cases, probably all cases, you take a woman at 21, compare her to herself at 31.
She was more attractive at 21.
I'm not saying she's not attractive at 31.
I'm just saying, like, I feel like part of the attraction is that the 20.
You're going to get away with more bullshit with the 21-year-old than you are with, like, a 31-year-old.
So I feel like part of the attraction is the control that you would have on her because she's young and inexperienced.
So it's like, that is more attractive to a man that wants that kind of control because, yeah, she's going to let me get away with things that maybe a 31-year-old wouldn't.
No, it's not even that because I could even make this assessment with women I have no chance of dating.
You could just show me a photo of a woman that's 21 versus a woman who's 31.
Well, I see that.
And I have no, there's, there's no relationship dynamic.
It's just purely looking at her physical attractiveness.
I would almost ultimately almost always say that the 21-year-old is more attractive than the 31-year-old based purely on physical appearance.
Okay, but how much does that play into who you actually date and who you actually get?
Because I see a lot of gorgeous 21-year-old women with not-so-gorgeous men.
So, like, you know what I mean?
Obviously, yeah, they may be gorgeous, but they're not exactly dating someone who's just as gorgeous as them all the time.
Like, how much does that play into what you actually date?
So, you're waiting for me to do that.
Very little tell what your type is based on what you actually accept to date.
Because you just said you dated a 45-year-old.
Well, if you are saying that, like, 21-year-olds are more attractive than that 45-year-old you dated, then why would you even give that 45-year-old a chance?
Because she's not attractive to you.
The younger they are, they're attractive.
So, like, if she's 45 and she's older than you, why even date her?
Like, why even pursue that?
No, but I already said that you obviously, like, if you're 30, 35, 40, 45, you can still be physically attractive.
But just in terms of argumentation, since we're talking about it, a woman, like 10 years later, I think across the board, you're just going to be more attractive at 21 versus 31.
It's not wrong.
It's not perception.
It is.
It's just biological reality.
Let me ask you a question.
I agree.
How about 30 years?
In 30 years, are you more attractive now or in 30 years?
It depends what my idea of beauty is.
I hear what you're saying, but what I'm saying, it has very little impact to dating and relationships and marriage because you can see any random lady off the street who's 21 years old that's gorgeous, dropped it, gorgeous, and beautiful, but you end up marrying someone who's a complete opposite of that type that you deemed beautiful.
So like just men thinking that women that are younger are beautiful does not lead to them in a marriage, in a healthy relationship, getting all the things that come with long-term.
You can admire eye candy for sure.
Right.
But that doesn't have any impact on your relationship, marriage, dating life.
Oh, I'm not saying, I'm not saying because I find women who are like 21 more attractive than 31 year olds that that necessarily means that I can get them or that they're going to be attracted to me.
But just if we're purely having a conversation about it, then I would say, yes, like I do think women are more physically attractive at 21 versus 31.
Okay.
Or at 25 versus 35.
Okay.
Yes, because it's just like biology.
The body starts the skin, everything.
You get wrinkles.
Yeah.
That's why I got to do that so I wouldn't have to deal with it.
I think there's beauty in aging.
I think that women accepting and embracing their age as they grow older.
I think that's beautiful, but also, I don't know.
Look, I'm not saying.
We're talking about that earlier.
I'm going to get a look older.
I'm not saying at 30 or 35 or 40 as a woman, there aren't men that are.
Men are going to find you attractive, but just from a purely conversational point of view, from a purely argument, like if we're having a debate on it, then you want to hit the nail on the peaks of attractions.
I have conversations in this sauna daily.
And when I talk to men like that, they don't express the same thing that you're expressing, that you prefer a woman to be younger or like she said, a little pre-pubescent where they don't have these conversations.
Okay, you're saying, okay, hold on.
Because the women you're saying, prepubescent is a very specific thing.
We're talking about this conversation, the framework is adult women.
Right, but what makes pre-pubescent?
You're talking about like 12-year-olds.
But we're talking about the way they look.
Like, we've highlighted that for a while.
Like, when you think about, and obviously all women come in different shapes and shises.
But when you think about a woman, you think about curves.
You think about the fact that they're not.
Their hips are, that used to be a thing.
Oh, her hips are childbirthing hips.
Well, now you're shaming women who don't.
I'm not shaming.
No, but you're saying that a woman who doesn't fall in line with a particular curvature of her body, she's less of a woman.
No, I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is what you're attracted to is not necessarily the standard for a woman.
Well, I have a wide range of what I'm attracted to.
A woman who's got big tits and a fat ass, that's great.
But also like a woman who's a bit more petite, that's great too.
That's why I said it has no impact on who you date, who you marry, and what your lifestyle is.
Yeah, you can be.
But you're trying to pathologize men who are attracted to women who, if a woman doesn't fall into big fucking titties, big ass, curvy body, that that's somehow like he's like a pedo or something.
No, no, no.
Like there are mature, there are mature adult 25, 30, 35 year old women.
That doesn't matter what age they are, they don't have that body shape.
For sure.
But what I'm saying is your standards.
But let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
So a guy who's attracted, who finds a 35-year-old woman attractive who doesn't have a curvy body, is that more problem, like is that problematic compared to a guy, like there's some 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old women who are thick as fuck, who've got the womanly.
Men too.
It's confusing.
Right, but like These body types can at any age can be the case.
My only quarrel was that you saying that because they were younger, that they're beauty, right?
What you are basically saying, younger adult women.
All I'm saying is that you're you right now are deciding the staple of what is beauty and not beauty.
And I come into contact with men daily who don't agree with you.
I mean, they're probably just telling you that because they want to fuck you.
They have nothing to do with me.
It could be my brother.
It could be my friend.
This is just random that the sauna got wives.
But here's the thing, right?
I can sit here and tell you, I find women who are 35 or 40 or 30.
I find them attractive.
But it also happens to be the case that I find women who are 21 attractive.
For sure.
And comparatively speaking, I can sit here and say, generally speaking, I think women are more attractive at 21 than they will be at 31.
It's just, it's just reality.
But I'm saying that's your opinion.
In the same way, in the same way that I think a 31-year-old is more attractive than a 61-year-old.
It's just aging.
You aging.
I feel like a good example would be like Leonardo DiCaprio for some, or I don't know why he came to my head, but a lot of women would think that he was a lot more attractive when he was younger than he is now.
100%.
Okay.
That's what I'm saying: it's just a preference because I literally, just yesterday, I had a conversation with this guy who's really cute from high school.
Hi.
He was like, wow, you're looking so fine.
I was like, different from high school.
He was like, yes.
He's like, you've aged well.
And so, and this is, but this is something continuously from a lot of high school kids that I've known.
And like, you would claim that I was probably better looking men or even in college.
They claim that I am better looking now.
And most of them are.
I mean, you can show me a photo and I can give you an honest opinion.
I mean, I guess, but at the end of the day, I think it's really more how I carry myself.
I think Brian is talking about like the norm.
But what is the norm?
He can't send it.
No, they've been.
They've done studies on this.
No, they've done studies.
Men are like across most age demographics.
Like if you like younger women.
If you do an analysis of like, if you show men pictures of women at like various adult women here, we're talking about adult women across various ages.
They typically say they, this is across men from 18 to I don't know, I forgot exactly.
They did a study on this.
I think 40, 50 men, it's like 21, 22.
That's the age range where men find women to be the most attractive.
Yeah, that's the peak.
That doesn't matter.
Yeah, that's not saying that you can't be attracted to a woman who's 30, 35, 40.
But the women who are 21, 22, they're still single.
So what is it to say about that?
Oh, I don't know about that.
But that's what I mean.
So it doesn't matter if she's really attractive at 21.
She's not getting married at 21.
So what are we doing here?
Yeah, that's true.
Let's do the dating app reaction, then we're going to wrap up the show.
We'll do the two dating apps and then we'll.
Maddie, can you read this really quick before Nick?
Actually, yeah.
I've enjoyed listening to you ladies, but you exhibit significant denial.
BMI over 35 increases risk by 130% for heart failure, 60% for heart attack, 107% for diabetes, among other issues.
Acceptance is fine, but please don't kid yourself about your health risks.
Another internet doctor.
Thank you for your unsolicited advice.
Actually, I hit the sauna daily, which lowers your heart attack risk of 80%.
If you're hitting the sauna daily, if you're hitting it for 15 minutes, I think it's like a certain amount per week.
I try to get it at least 30 a day.
But hitting the sauna reduces your risk of heart attack 80%.
Also increases your blood flow and circulation, which also decreases your chances of getting diabetes and other things.
So I guess it just depends on what you do.
I know thin people that don't work out and they'll eat a whole box of Oreos and sit at home and watch Netflix all day, but nobody's telling them nothing.
Let's pull up the Okay, so this is from your hint, this is from your bumble.
Nice ass.
Thank you.
It's meant to be if you make sure I eat and make me laugh.
Yes.
Okay.
I like to be fed and I like to jokes.
I like to laugh.
Next.
Okay.
Okay, this one.
All right.
I was Scorpio.
Be watching me.
I already got people loving.
Next.
There you go.
Okay.
Oh, this is Misty's profile now.
Next.
Misty.
Woo!
Okay, next.
I have a video of my body, so they're not confused when they go on a date with me.
Have a special skill or super knowledgeable on something?
Show me.
Life is an adventure.
I'm here for the journey.
Okay.
Like, so super knowledgeable on something.
So, do you play World of Warcraft at all?
Because look, here's the thing, right?
I like to think that I'm very knowledgeable when it comes to World of Warcraft.
As somebody who had four level 60s in classic, get this, right?
60 rogue, 60 warrior, 60 warlock, 60 mage, son.
Wow.
That's right.
World of Warcraft.
World of Warcraft, Classic.
You know, we, I'm very familiar with all the boss mechanics and Molten Core.
I know the, like, and we also, my guild, we, not only did we do instance raids, but we did outdoor raids.
So, like, the world bosses.
So Lord Kazakh, Azerdos, we had that shit on farm.
And we were competing with other guilds for like tags on the world bosses and shit, but we were constantly getting, we got the tags all the time.
We were scouting like hardcore.
We would, within a minute of the world boss spawning, we would get the tag.
We would have 40 people in the Shara, 40 people in Blasted Lands, the Tainted Scar.
We would get Kazakh.
We would get Azergos.
We're getting that crystal adorned crown.
We're going to get the fucking loot.
We're going to get Imperian Demolisher from Kazakh.
Even though we were Horde, Maces aren't that great for Horde.
Like, because human, like, Alliance, it's usually like a little better for human warriors, right?
Human warriors, human rogues, because they got the Mace and the Sword skill, right?
Passive racials, of course.
Now, here's the thing, right?
Here's what you got to understand.
Then Green Dragons comes out in like phase four or whatever.
We were getting the four dragons, too.
That's really impressive.
I love that your passion.
Are you turned on right now?
I'm not going to lie.
Your passion and your knowledge and the words that you're using that I have to ask about what they mean.
If you're my man, I'm so about it.
Let's do World and Warcraft together.
I'm about it.
Here's the thing.
You wouldn't get to the point to be able to talk about World of Warcraft because you already are asking for half on the first date.
So it doesn't matter.
Period.
Respectfully.
Oh.
Okay.
Cool.
You know what I mean?
I do.
I love that you got nerdy.
Like, I've dated guys with animals.
I go crazy for travels and risky water.
Also, I'm in my 30s.
Hello?
Wait, next one?
Also, I'm in my 30s, not 28, but I can't change it now.
Yeah, they won't let me change it.
You just put it lower so that you could match with.
No, actually, I tried to change it, but they wouldn't allow me to because I don't want a man who doesn't.
You accidentally put your age in wrong.
Well, no, I put, well, here's the thing is I could change it before and I wanted to show it to someone and they wouldn't let me change it back.
So that's just.
Wait, you're in your 30s.
I thought you said you were 28.
28 forever, yeah.
Do you want to reveal that?
Do you want to Google?
Do you do you feel like I don't like people judge you if you say that?
In my career specifically, I love that.
I literally had an agent say, thank God you're not 30.
Otherwise, I don't know if I'd be able to sign you.
Meanwhile, that agency has been with me for three years and we've booked three, at least three projects.
Yeah.
Big one.
So, you know, yeah, I'm definitely judging this industry and I don't, I'm not going to, I'm not going to let my money slip because someone wants to know my age.
Yeah, I feel like.
So you're willing to like compromise and be like, you know what?
The one thing I told myself, because I don't like lying.
The one thing I told myself when I moved to California is I moved out here for my career.
I want to find these other things as well, but I'm going to lie about one thing.
I'm not a good liar.
I don't like to keep track of lies.
The one thing I'm going to lie about is my age, and I'm going to be honest with the fact that I'm lying about it.
If you can't settle with that, then that's a you thing.
Okay.
All right.
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If you're on Twitch, I'm going to raid somebody.
Let me get that going.
I know I got some haters too on my Instagram.
No, don't say that.
They love you.
They love you.
They stop shaming.
Stop fact shaming.
That's what there's X famous said.
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Let me see who I'm going to raid really quick on Twitch before I wrap up the show here.
What does that mean?
What does what mean?
Raid.
Oh, it's like you're hosting.
Let me see who's live.
We got Ampy.
I don't know if she, hold on.
Let me just check what Ampy's up to.
Do we do Ampi or do we do Bobka?
I'm going to raid.
It might be his girlfriend, though.
I don't know who.
One sec, guys.
I'm going to see who else.
Oh, shit.
Hold on.
Sorry, guys.
Or do I do?
I could raid Bobka.
And let's do, we're going to raid Ampy.
All right.
So on Twitch, we're going to raid Ampy.
He's the guild leader of Frontier, hardcore, classic hardcore.
So I'm going to send the raid over on Twitch to Ampi.
Tell him what's up.
Tell him to come on the whatever podcast.
All right, guys.
Raid sent.
Okay, guys.
Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
Oh, wait.
Body count?
Body count?
Zero.
Zero?
Wait, really?
I mean, I just mean that I'm not going to say it.
Okay.
I don't know.
Okay.
All right, guys.
See you next time.
Good night.
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