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Feb. 4, 2023 - Whatever Podcast

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Dating Talk #42

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	Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast.
	We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Tuesday and Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
	She's a bit shy.
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	And yeah, anyways, so without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, and/or school major.
	Go ahead.
	I'm Jeslin.
	I'm 24 and I'm a volunteer coordinator for a nonprofit.
	Nicolette.
	Hi.
	I'm Nicolette.
	I'm 23 and I do OnlyFans and I'm a stripper.
	I'm Bella.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I play basketball and major in psychology at Santa Barbara State College.
	I'm Gabby.
	I'm 21 and I'm currently a criminology major at SBCC.
	My name is Haley.
	I'm 23 and I am currently a preschool teacher.
	Rock and roll.
	Wow, this is, I never see this angle so close zoomed up on me.
	It's because I'm the, I guess the only one on this side.
	So, guys, is it too zoomed in?
	Should I zoom it out a bit?
	But anyways, everyone's Instagrams are in the description.
	Guys, show them some love, give them a follow.
	Sugar Daddy's, you know what to do.
	So going around the table once more, tell me your current relationship status, your longest relationship, and are you on any dating apps?
	I'm single.
	I am on a dating app, and I'm sorry, what was it like?
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Okay, three years.
	And also, just, I don't know if any of you have heard of Seeking.
	Used to be called Seeking Arrangements.
	It's also kind of considered a dating app.
	Are you on Seeking?
	I have been on Seeking.
	I've mainly got spam on it, so I ended my account.
	Did you ever link up with a Sugar Daddy or?
	No.
	Feet pick requests, 500 bucks, anything?
	No, but recently someone asked me to be Dominatrix for them, so that was pretty interesting.
	Did you say yes?
	Or it's in the works or what?
	Well, if he sees this podcast, probably not.
	Okay, so it's still pending.
	All right, Nicolette.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was seven years, and I'm on Tinder.
	Seeking arrangements at all?
	No, never.
	You've had the, come on, you've had a sugar daddy.
	Um, no, not really.
	Come on, come on.
	You've had a sugar daddy.
	Maybe like some sort.
	Not like what the typical sugar daddy arrangement you would think of.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was like three to four years, and I'm not currently on any dating apps.
	Okay.
	Ever had a sugar daddy?
	I've never had a sugar daddy.
	Okay.
	Her DMs are open.
	Gabby, go ahead.
	I'm currently in a relationship, and the longest relationship I've been in, I think, was two, two and a half years.
	And I'm not on any dating apps.
	I am currently single.
	I'm on Hinge right now.
	And my longest relationship was three and a half years.
	Any sugar daddy situations?
	No.
	Okay.
	It's in the works, maybe.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	Okay, cool, cool.
	So you're single, but never been on a dating app.
	Never been on a dating app.
	Really?
	Okay, so haven't even downloaded Tinder just out of curiosity.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, guys, so three of the girls so kindly provided their, we got some screenshots of their dating app profile.
	So we're going to be doing a review a little bit later on in the show, so that should be fun.
	So just a question.
	Of those of you who said you were single, which is the four of you besides, well, besides Gabby, are you truly single?
	Is my first question?
	What's your definition of truly single?
	Do you currently?
	Well, okay.
	I'll ask some clarifying questions here.
	Do you currently have a sneaky link, and we'll start with you?
	Close to the mic?
	Kind of, but that's complicated.
	It's complicated.
	It's complicated.
	But you got someone you're kind of seeing, right?
	Kind of seeing.
	A few.
	A few people you're kind of seeing.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	When you say a few, we talk in four, five.
	What do we talk about?
	I date around.
	Dates.
	My options are open.
	Eleven?
	I don't know.
	Options are open.
	Just give us a range.
	How many are you currently seeing?
	Maybe, like, currently seeing, that's a hard statement.
	Maybe like four or five.
	So do you have like one on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, one on Friday?
	Whenever I feel like it.
	Okay.
	Four or five, whenever you feel like it.
	And is it, are you boys and girls or just guys?
	Pretty much just guys.
	Just guys.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm really single, like the definition of single.
	Really single.
	Really single.
	I don't have any sneaky links right now.
	That's awesome.
	Okay.
	So when was the last time that you were, when did your relationship end?
	You said you were in like a three to four year relationship?
	That ended like maybe like almost a year ago.
	Almost a year ago.
	Coming on a year.
	Okay, so you've been really single for a year.
	Or maybe there's a little thing.
	Yeah, like, you know, not even a rebound, just like me just being single, having fun, and then like it just right now, it just, or a while ago, everyone disappeared, and then I've just been solo for the time being.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We'll get back to that.
	Nicolette, what about you?
	I'm really single.
	Come on.
	Come on, Nicolette.
	It's hard out here in the world.
	Okay, you have OnlyFans, right?
	Yes.
	So isn't it if you have an OnlyFans, you would never admit to your fans that you have a boyfriend, right?
	If you did have a boyfriend?
	I did have a boyfriend one time when I was doing OnlyFans, and I was open about it.
	I would like make videos with him.
	Okay.
	What about, and you strip too, right?
	Yeah.
	How many days a week do you strip?
	Like three, four days.
	If a customer comes in and he's talking to you, maybe he's going to get a dance, whatever, and he asks, do you have a boyfriend?
	What do you tell him?
	Let's say you do have a boyfriend, what would you tell him?
	Back when I first started and I was like a baby stripper and I didn't know any better, I would tell the truth and be like, yeah, I have a boyfriend.
	It depends really on the customer too.
	Like what they're looking for.
	But then eventually I just stopped.
	Because it like stops a lot of like awkward questions.
	Okay.
	Do you think that they would spend less money on you if you did have a boyfriend?
	Yeah, sometimes.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So are you telling, are you truly single?
	I'm openly dating.
	Openly dating?
	Yeah.
	Is it four or five as much as your friends here?
	I'm not going to lie.
	Yeah, don't lie.
	What you got?
	What you got going on?
	I would say like probably two or three that I consistently like talk to and go on dates with.
	Okay.
	Like hooking up with?
	No.
	Like going on actual dates with.
	Stop the cat.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	You're going on dates with, but you're not hooking up?
	No shame.
	No shame.
	I'm trying not to like ruin my options by having sex like off the bat.
	So as of right now, I'm just like trying to go on dates with people.
	So you think it would ruin your options if you had sex too soon?
	I think a lot of men don't really respect women if you give it up too freely.
	That's just been my experience.
	I could be wrong, but that's been, I feel like, a lot of my friends and my experience.
	What is the experience?
	That I don't know.
	I've been ghosted many times after I like gave it up too easily or too easily.
	So like you hook up the first time and then you just never hear from them again.
	Like it's a one and done.
	Was it a one night stand?
	Like same day you meet, you do it and then they're gone or what?
	Or is it even like even if you've done one, two, three, four dates and then you have sex, they're still gone.
	It's strange because I've experienced both like if the first day I hooked up then gone and then also been on a few dates they actually spent money on me and they still like kind of like I'm like you're just wasting your time at that point and wasting your money especially but yeah I've experienced both.
	Okay I want to open sort of that up to the rest of the panel.
	Have you guys had similar experiences here let's while we start we'll go around like this Nicolette similar experiences to what?
	Good getting ghosted stop reading the chat Nicolette getting ghosted okay so you're I think your initial point was something like men don't like respect you if you give it up earlier or like that's what you tend to experience.
	I mean I was in a relationship for a really long time so I haven't had much experience with that.
	So I mean I'm not looking for a relationship so if I'm hanging out with a guy it's just to like have fun and not anything serious but if I was looking for a relationship maybe I would like wait a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Doesn't really matter.
	I haven't experienced it.
	So you've never hooked up with a guy and then he well the guy who I dated for seven years I think we hooked up like like one of the first few times we met maybe like the second or third time.
	So I don't think it matters.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	Yeah I would agree.
	I don't think it matters.
	I think I haven't had the experience of like the relationship I was in we hooked up the first night and then we were together for three years.
	Okay interesting.
	Gabby, what about you?
	When I was single I didn't really experience that like that didn't really make too much of a difference for me like in terms of talking after but my relationship now is like we hooked up one of like the first few times we hang out.
	Okay I'm seeing a pattern here.
	There's a pattern.
	I have Vic's experience about it because I've asked men their opinions on that if they respect a woman less if we give it up too easily.
	And I've had mixed opinions on that as well.
	Some will say yes.
	They do respect you less if you give it up easily and some will say no that they don't care.
	And I would say I've experienced the same thing, mixed some like of her experience of where it's almost like they respect you less or like they'll ghost you.
	I have some from the other experience as well where some people just don't care.
	Okay.
	And if the guy is sleeping with you on the first date too, like what are who is he to judge if he's also sleeping with you on the first date?
	Like what?
	Well, it's a little different, don't you think?
	It's not different at all.
	Men are super easy and then girls are like so easy.
	Well, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Say what you're going to say.
	Like men like will hook up with you if you want to hook up.
	They're like that whore.
	She sucked with me on the first date.
	I mean, I think it depends, right?
	It's if it could just be, hey, she's just really into me.
	So she wants to hook up.
	Yeah, I feel like most men would think of it more like, oh my God, I just got late.
	Like, heck yeah.
	They're not like, oh my God, she slept with me on the first date.
	Like, they're like, yeah, I just got some pussy.
	Like, I'm so happy.
	It's more like I would not continue to pursue her because she gave it up so easily.
	You know what I mean?
	I think it's, I think it is mixed.
	Some guys are definitely going to think, if she hooks up with me too soon, then she's just, you'll never view her in the relationship category.
	But I think a lot of guys too, like, we, a lot of guys don't care.
	Like, if you hook up with, if, if, depends on what their intention is.
	So if their intention going in is like you could potentially see something with this girl, then go for it.
	Hook up quick.
	So would you, if a girl hooked up with you on your first date, like, would you look at her differently or would you potentially like make her your girlfriend?
	It wouldn't deter me from wanting to take her seriously in my case.
	Now, if she's promiscuous, that's something else.
	So I think you can hook up with someone relatively quickly and also not be super promiscuous.
	Because look, a lot of guys don't want a girl who's sleeping around with a bunch of other dudes, don't want a high body count.
	I'll know how soon into the podcast you guys want to get into the body count stuff.
	But a lot of guys, whether you like it or not, body count's important.
	We want a girl with a low body count.
	So most men.
	So you can have a low body count and still hook up with someone relatively quickly.
	So, you know, we're going to we're going to be looking at other indicators of is this girl worthy of like is this girl long-term potential than just how quickly did she hook up with me?
	So, but okay, so you're dating like four or five dudes, three, a couple dudes, couple guys, couple girls maybe.
	Okay.
	And but you're not hooking up with any of them because you don't want them to judge you by hooking up too soon.
	I see how you could say that.
	Well, that's what you said, right?
	You said that you're seeing a couple people, but you're not really hooking up with them because you've had these experiences where you hook up and they're gone.
	And so you want to avoid that.
	It's also, I fully agree.
	That is what I said.
	It's also a respect thing.
	And I believe that sex is soul exchange.
	Like that's my definition of it.
	Like whoever you are hooking up with, you take some of their energy with you, whether that be like good or bad.
	And if there's no trust aspect in it, then I don't feel comfortable proceeding, basically.
	What is it?
	Soul?
	Soul exchange.
	Soul exchange?
	I've never heard this.
	You exchange souls.
	It's like soul caliber or some shit.
	Okay.
	That's unique.
	So do you guys, have you guys heard about the soul thing?
	It's like an energy exchange.
	Yeah, literally.
	Okay.
	So are they taking a lot of your soul?
	What's going on?
	How does it work?
	I view sex as one of the most vulnerable and intimate aspects of yourself.
	So if you don't feel comfortable having like an in-depth conversation of how you feel safe and secure, then how are you allowing somebody like that into your body?
	You don't trust them.
	And also, there's a lot of STDs going around.
	And if you don't feel comfortable saying something along that line, then why are you having sex?
	You're too young to have sex if you can't talk about STIs and how you're being safe and if you're getting tested or not.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree with you.
	There's a lot of that going around.
	Okay.
	Here, we'll kind of come back to that a little bit later on in the show.
	So we missed a couple super chats, guys, from last show.
	So I just want to pull these up just because, and then I'll do the super chats that have come in so far today.
	By the way, guys, all super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
	Eric, can you pull up the little super chat?
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	I can't even read this.
	It's a bit too small.
	So for some reason, my trying to find who we missed.
	One sec, Eric.
	Can you scroll down a bit?
	It was from last week.
	I think it was lukewarm.
	Okay.
	All right, we missed this from last week.
	To the panel, do you think the opposite sex has it easier in general?
	If so, would you trade places?
	What do you think?
	Actually, Eric, can you pull it back up?
	Let me just read it one more time.
	Okay, so do you think the opposite sex has it easier in general?
	If so, would you trade places?
	I think men also have their struggles that as a woman I wouldn't be able to understand.
	I do think that they have a lot of things that, like, they don't have the pink tax, like if I want to get a razor.
	So if basically razors, pads, sorry, scratch that.
	Basically, things that girls use that guys also use, such as razors, because they're a different color, there's a higher tax on them.
	I'm pretty sure that's been debunked.
	Really?
	Yeah, from what I've read online.
	Pads and medication that helps with periods, that's labeled as a luxury product, not a necessity.
	Sure.
	What else?
	Anything else?
	Well, birth control isn't labeled as a necessity for women anymore.
	And now businesses don't have to pay for it.
	I know I went off topic from what the question was, but wait, let me hold on.
	Let me just come to one thing.
	Chat, is this angle like, is it too zoomed in?
	I feel like it's way too zoomed in in comparison to the girl angle.
	Yo, okay, one in the chat if it's scuffed, or two in the chat if the angle difference is okay.
	Eric, can you pull it over?
	Oh, wow, it's catching up.
	Yeah, by the way, Eric, just leave this one up.
	Yeah, let's just leave that.
	Wait.
	Is one scuffed or two is fine?
	Is it too zoomed in?
	What?
	Zoom it in even more, British Patriot.
	Hello?
	It seems out of focus.
	Jesus Christ.
	Okay.
	I might zoom it out just a little bit.
	So, okay.
	Eric, can you pull it back up to the super chat?
	I just want to pull it up.
	So, okay.
	It is.
	Oh, wait, where did it go?
	Can you could you go F11?
	Is it F11?
	There's a question right there.
	Oh, he missed it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you think the opposite sex has it easier in general?
	If so, would you trade places?
	Jeez, I don't know how far deep down we want to go on this one.
	Okay, so you said the pink tax.
	I mean, that's so okay.
	It's like an alleged irregularity between the prices of women's products and men's products.
	Like, for example, conditioner, you compare men's and women's conditioners.
	Supposedly, women pay more for their conditioner than men pay for their conditioner.
	Supposedly, allegedly.
	I would say close to.
	And the fact that they're cheaper, cheaply made.
	Guys have deeper pockets than women do, but I'm sorry, I'm getting off topic.
	No, I would not change.
	No, I would not want to change places.
	I'm very much happy with my life.
	Okay.
	Nicolette, can you?
	I need to adjust the camera angle if you want to answer the super chat.
	Okay, I feel like women have it easier, and I love being a girl.
	And it's just like a life hack.
	So, no, I would not want to switch places.
	I feel like what she said, like, it's a life hack.
	You have a lot of.
	Well, what did you mean when you say life hack?
	Like, it's just like pussy power.
	Like, you get stuff, like, pretty privilege.
	Like, you just don't really have to worry about some things, like getting a job or stuff like that.
	Yeah, so I don't know if it's easier for men or women.
	I'm not sure who, I'm sure.
	Actually, I'm not going to say I don't know which one.
	I feel like in a lot of circumstances, men have it easier, but a lot of other circumstances, women have the upper hand.
	So, I would not switch sides.
	No, I would stay a woman.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on just a sec.
	Eric, if you pull up in the podcast folder in the studies, there's a pink tax study that we can look at just since she brought up the pink tax thing.
	And then you're going to, it's a PDF, so you'll have to open it up and just the browser is fine.
	Go ahead, Gabby.
	I don't think I would switch over.
	I mean, I think in some ways men have a little have it a little easier, but I don't know.
	Obviously, being used to a girl, and I don't know, you kind of like finesse your way through life being a girl sometimes.
	How do you finesse your way through life?
	We talked about it earlier.
	Men are really easy.
	Free drinks at the bar.
	Obviously, I don't do that.
	Don't you have a boyfriend?
	I don't do that now, actually.
	Okay, because I was going to say, if you have a boyfriend, maybe.
	My friends do.
	And I don't know.
	You could pee outside.
	Sometimes you just gotta pee.
	Women aren't able to pee outside.
	You kind of can.
	No, you can, obviously, in times of need, but I feel like it's easier to just whip it out.
	All right, that's the big advantage, boys.
	We can urinate in the woods.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I'm going to say that it's probably half and half.
	I would say that women do have privilege on some things.
	So like they were saying, free drinks, pretty privilege, pussy power, like that's very real.
	But when you're looking like in the workplace, I feel like men have the upper hand.
	Women are still looked at as if we are not as much as them.
	And let's talk about how there's no woman in power like ever.
	So when?
	Where?
	Tell me.
	You're ready to go.
	But like main woman in power, that's like what the first one and she's the vice president to a mainstream.
	I mean, Germany has Merkel.
	Well, I'm not going to talk off of people from other places.
	I'm talking about like here because I don't know about other places.
	I don't have knowledge on other places.
	Who's the speaker of the previous speaker of the house?
	Nancy Pelosi?
	Nancy Pelosi, she's up there.
	But compared to men, let's compare it to men.
	And that's what you're saying.
	Like, do I think men have more power or more whatever you said?
	Okay, so you're talking about like the president of the United States?
	I'm talking about in the workplace.
	Okay, so in a sense, that's like in the workplace.
	So like I said, I feel like women are still not held as high as men.
	And no, I mean, my answer to that question is no, I would never want to be a man.
	I love being a woman.
	Okay.
	And my answer is.
	Okay, so, all right, so you brought up the discrepancies in terms of political power and men occupying the highest positions and seniors.
	The majority of them for years and years and years.
	Okay.
	Why do you think that is?
	I don't know.
	Because women, I mean, for a long time, we were oppressed.
	So it's still to this.
	Women were oppressed?
	You able to say that they were not?
	Back in the day?
	When?
	Like, way long ago.
	What do you mean?
	Like, back when, way long ago.
	I'm not going to, like, I don't know this specific, Brian.
	You should know.
	Exactly.
	Like, 1800s, early 1900s.
	In the 1900s, we could barely vote.
	They had to fight for women's rights.
	They had to fight for them.
	We did not have the same rights as men.
	Okay, so we touched on a lot of things here.
	We talked about the pink tax.
	We talked about the workplace.
	I'm assuming you're also talking about the pay gap.
	You're talking about women's lack of voting rights in the early 20th century and 19th century.
	So, I mean, where do we begin?
	Well, first off, Eric, were you able to pull up the pink tax thing?
	Can you zoom in?
	Scroll up.
	So, this was investigating the pink tax, evidence against a systematic price premium from women, University of Chicago, Northwestern University.
	Keep in mind, these are women who were doing this research, by the way.
	So, FYI.
	So, the pink tax for, well, should I read it?
	I don't know.
	I'll let you guys read it, but basically, if you want to reference this at some further point, but basically, this debunks that there's a pink tax.
	Okay, so we can link to that later.
	Eric, also, if you want to pull up the in the studies, there's right above the pink tax study one, there's the pay scale gender gap.
	If you can pull that up in a sec, but okay, so you talked pay gap, you talked to men occupying the best positions in the workplace, and then you talked positions of power, right?
	Like president.
	Okay.
	So, which one do you want to start with first?
	Your choice.
	Oh, shit, what happened there?
	So, okay, so let's start with the wage gap.
	What is the wage gap?
	What is that?
	What do you mean?
	What is it?
	Well, you kind of brought it up.
	How much men get paid versus women in the same workplace?
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	You brought it up, did you?
	I just said, Well, you were the one who said wage gap yourself.
	That was you.
	That wasn't me.
	Oh, okay.
	So, you want to just talk about that men.
	I was just talking about in the workplace.
	I didn't say anything specific.
	Okay, what did you say about men in the workplace?
	I said I felt like they are that women are just not put as high as that.
	Like women are still looking.
	We are still looked down upon as if we cannot do the same things.
	Which things?
	The things that I think are.
	Well, I'm looking in the comments over here and they're saying that women base things off of emotion and how we're supposed to be more submissive.
	And I just feel like that.
	Well, I'm not looking at the chat right now.
	I was.
	Yeah, I was again.
	That's what they were saying.
	Okay.
	And I just, it's just something that I disagree with.
	I don't believe these same things.
	I don't think that women should be submissive.
	Or do you think that we should be?
	Like, I know plenty of women.
	If they're being submissive, it's out of fear for signing up for themselves.
	Well, I mean, I think you can maneuver through the world however you'd like, but I mean, within the, we're talking about two different things now.
	When people are talking about being submissive, they're usually talking about that within the context of a relationship.
	But we're talking about like the workplace.
	And that's what they were saying.
	think women should be submissive in the workplace but i mean so are we what are we talking about I was just bouncing off that.
	In the workplace, and like, I'm sure you can pull up a study.
	Like, they've done studies where a man and a woman have the same exact job and the man's earning more.
	That's not true.
	I mean, the wage gap.
	Is the wage gap not real?
	It's been debunked.
	Since when?
	When was that?
	For pretty much forever.
	Are we just supposed to take your word for it?
	Exactly.
	So, I mean, we can pull up the pace.
	I scuffed.
	Now is it too zoomed out, boys?
	It looks great.
	I think it's too zoomed out.
	Okay, so here, first, we'll come back to the wage gap thing.
	Why don't we start with men occupying the highest positions in careers and in politics, right?
	So as far as politics go, women make the majority of the electorate.
	So what is, if you guys were so inclined, you could vote into power a woman.
	Yeah.
	But my vote amongst millions, like it's like an 81 million.
	Yeah, but there's, but as a group, women.
	Well, how can I get in contact with all women of the United States?
	That's a good question.
	You got to start a Facebook group or some shit.
	Start a little group chat.
	So, and then, okay, let's talk about the workplace, right?
	So are there more men who are on boards of companies and who are CEOs and executives and vice presidents?
	Yes, that's true.
	However, you also, so, okay, you're talking sort of the glass ceiling, right?
	Have you heard that term, the glass ceiling?
	Okay.
	So that women have like difficulty rising to the top positions in government and politics and the workplace.
	Well, you can't look at that and also ignore the glass seller, which is while men occupy the best, the supposed best positions, we also occupy the worst positions by far greater margin than we occupy the best positions.
	What are the worst?
	What are the worst positions?
	Garbage collector, people working in coal mines, people working out on oil rigs, dangerous jobs.
	93% of workplace deaths are men.
	The vast majority of people getting injured on the job are men.
	So you have to ask yourself, well, why is it that men occupy both the best and the worst positions?
	I think when thinking about like higher authoritative positions, you know, obviously back in the day, we kind of started as men occupied those just because women were expected and like had to stay at home to take care of the kids, the house chores, et cetera.
	And as we grow out of that now, women are still a little bit behind because there's already men are already implemented in those higher authoritative positions, right?
	And it's not that women aren't reaching for like those positions.
	It's just a little harder when, you know, a lot more men are like, let's say in that position.
	So do you think there's like a boys club that people in corporations where the main motivation is making money?
	It's just, yeah, we just want a bunch of guys.
	We don't want women.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, my grandpa was actually in the Freemasons and they didn't like go through, you know, like obviously being like, fuck women.
	We just want men.
	We don't want to make more money and stuff like that.
	But it was like exclusively a boys, like a men's club where they had a lot more connections.
	And then eventually, you know, women branched off of that.
	And there's the Rainbow Girls, which is a branch off.
	The Rainbow Girls.
	The branch off of.
	Are we talking conspiracy theory?
	The Freemason.
	Freemason.
	I have no idea what that is.
	But okay.
	So ultimately it comes down to choice.
	Men and women make different choices in what they study, in the fields that they want to go in, and that's going to have an impact on the money they earn and the positions that they occupy.
	So.
	I haven't convinced them.
	Okay, so.
	So like, what would you say like in a situation like Harvey Weinstein or like Harvey Weinstein?
	What does that have nothing to do with that?
	I'm just saying like that's a man in power or like that's totally irrelevant.
	How is that irrelevant?
	That's a man in power and like he totally abused his power.
	That's not really related.
	I mean, that's not really related to what we're talking about.
	But he's a really powerful man, right?
	Or he was a really powerful man.
	That's totally unrelated to the broad topic at hand.
	But you're talking about like basically women and men make choices, which is why they're in the positions they're in, right?
	Okay, let's talk about Indira Gandhi.
	Let's talk about Indira Gandhi.
	But I'm just saying you say she was a terrible leader in India.
	But you say women and men make choices that put them where they want to be.
	Yes.
	Okay, so Harvey Weinstein was a very powerful man, right?
	Okay, but I don't think that's a good idea.
	Like you don't want to talk about that topic.
	We don't have to talk about that topic.
	That's fine.
	But I'm not understanding the point that you're trying to make.
	Like, I understand what you say.
	Like, women and men make choices and that puts them in the place they are.
	Or like, that's how you feel.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Now, then there has, we don't even have to say names.
	There have been men in power who are in power and they abuse and utilize their power not to put women in position or to bring women and men together.
	It's been like without saying names, there's been like, oh, like I can ruin your or end your career as a man with my power and you're a woman because you're not following the choices or like doing the stuff I want you to do.
	The exception does not make the rule.
	I mean, this is an outlier situation.
	Harvey Weinstein was a terrible person, abuser, but I mean, but he would have never been able to do that if he wasn't in power and had the power he had, right?
	Or like got as far as he got with it.
	And it's not really an outlier situation.
	Think about like Dr. Luke and Kesha or it just came out like a shot.
	There was like the music.
	We're talking about a totally, you're talking about like the casting couch in Hollywood.
	Is it, yes, is it other people?
	Of course.
	But I mean, it's just such a, it's totally unrelated to the topic at hand.
	So you were talking about, okay, why is it that men have all these positions of power?
	But they're talking about men in power.
	Or men in power.
	Okay, let's talk about Genghis Khan.
	But there's a lot of women.
	Like, you're going to talk about women, but there's a lot of men to talk about, too.
	But we're speaking in generalities here.
	We're not looking at individual cases.
	Boo men, yay women.
	Oh my God.
	Literally.
	What a mess.
	Okay, so I don't.
	Let's end on the wage gap.
	Okay, so Eric, can you pull up the pay scale thing?
	Scroll all the way down.
	Pay scale is a reputable company that investigated this.
	Scroll down a bit more, or sorry, on the chart.
	Just stay on this chart here.
	Can you zoom it in just a tad?
	A little more if you can, Eric.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	So on the left, you have the uncontrolled gender pay gap.
	You commonly hear this one, 82 cents for every $1 earned by men.
	So this is when you take all men and all women and just compare just like that without taking into account hours worked, profession, seniority, type of job.
	That's that.
	When you control it, when you control for like and like, so someone working the same job, same qualifications, same hours worked, it's 99 cents.
	Where's that one cent?
	I mean, that's within the, I would say that's within the margin of error.
	But the thing is, is that what you have to think about with these situations is if there's a discrepancy, is there necessarily, does that necessarily mean that it's due to sexism?
	If there's a difference between men and women, is it, for example, the supposed pay gap, which there isn't, is it due to sexism?
	I would say no.
	I would say it's due to people's choices.
	How is it a woman's choice to get paid less?
	I don't understand what you mean by that.
	Well, they aren't paid less.
	But it said, even one cent is a difference.
	When you're talking about hours worked, one cent is still a difference.
	When controlling for everything, it's down to one cent.
	But you should control, because why would I, as a teacher, get compared to somebody who makes way more money or even way less money?
	Right, exactly.
	So you're talking controlled as in people who are in the same profession as me.
	So even that woman, like me as a teacher, comparing to a man that does the same job as me, in controlled, it's still saying that I make less money.
	So that's all that.
	But that it doesn't prove that it's due to some sort of sexism.
	Just because there's even a difference when it's controlled.
	What else would it be?
	It could be all sorts of things.
	Like what?
	Well, first off, even controlled like that, you still have to think about differences that people make throughout their life.
	What do you mean by differences?
	For example, if you choose to get pregnant, that's going to impact your career.
	Who's going to repopulate the world?
	No, I'm not against women getting pregnant.
	What if you get pregnant on accident?
	What if it wasn't necessarily a choice?
	Yeah.
	People get pregnant not meaning to get pregnant.
	I thought you said getting pregnant on acid.
	No.
	Look, if there was a boys' club and if it was, if you could get away with paying women less, why would you ever hire a man?
	If you can pay a woman 30 cents, what is it?
	30% less, you would just hire women.
	Businesses are in the, okay, a business's goal is to make money.
	If you can pay women 30% less, you would just hire women.
	But it's clearly not the case.
	Otherwise, corporations would just be hiring women.
	If you could actually get away with paying them less than you pay men.
	I just disagree.
	You disagree.
	Okay, so.
	Okay.
	Do you, okay, so do you think that what I pulled up there, the pay scale thing, 99 cents?
	Yes.
	Do you disagree with their assessment?
	I'm not going to disagree with their assessment.
	What do you think the wage gap is?
	Even if that right there is a wage gap, I'm not going to say that I know what it is because I don't.
	But still, that's like 99 cents.
	Does anyone else want to come in on this, by the way?
	I would say if the goal is just to be open in this podcast, I think that's definitely what we're doing here.
	I don't think I'm going to fully believe after leaving here like that paper that you showed us.
	So I definitely need to do more research so I can speak more clearly about what?
	Oh, I made the PDF.
	Look.
	Because sexism is very prominent, and I think, or my opinion on...
	My opinion is that just because we're not talking about all, like the bigger, the whole picture of sexism, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
	And that piece of paper isn't going to make me fully believe that it's not real because it's something that I've fully experienced.
	Okay, so here's what it comes down to.
	There's not a pay gap.
	There's not a wage gap.
	There's an earnings gap.
	So the question that you need to ask yourself is not whether it exists, but why it exists.
	And I would say the answer, it's not sexism.
	So there's a ton of reasons for the earnings gap.
	Like I already said, the big one is women's choices.
	Women, when, for example, in college, they tend to study different things.
	So that's one.
	You have to look at, for example, hours worked.
	You have to look at, I mean, there's a whole bunch of things.
	There's different types of jobs that are worked by men and women.
	There's a ton of different factors.
	I mean, I could pull up, there's another thing we could pull up.
	Let me see if I can find it really quick.
	Eric, can you pull up the, let me see here.
	Actually, I'm not sure if I have it.
	Let me just double check.
	No, I don't have it.
	Never mind.
	I kind of want to bring it back to dating.
	Okay, so look, if we want to talk about the wage gap, like...
	I don't think we do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'll end it on this.
	So there's all kinds of gaps, right?
	Yeah.
	There's different kinds of gaps.
	So if we talk about the wage gap, then we also have to talk about the more likely to work a dangerous job gap.
	What about, or more likely to die on the job gap?
	That's a gap.
	Yeah.
	I said 93% of workplace deaths are men.
	Should we equalize that?
	You think should we equalize it so it's 50-50 workplace deaths?
	You just said that women do not take up the majority of those jobs.
	that's but but does it stand to reason that if you're working a day okay let me ask you guys a question In order for you to work a dangerous job, would you have to be paid more in order to do it?
	If a job came with the risk of death or injury, would you be like, I want to be paid more for that job?
	Or do you think those jobs should be better compensated than working in a comfortable office?
	Well, they already get paid more due to the risk.
	So I had a couple friends working construction, and there's higher risk in that.
	So obviously, you know, they're getting paid more to like incentivize working these jobs.
	And 95% of construction workers, probably more than 95% are men.
	I would agree, yeah.
	But going off like what you said about choices, now, you know, obviously men do work those jobs more, and I will agree that women choose to not work those jobs more.
	But at the end of the day, like men still choose to do that job instead of a less like a lower risk job.
	Yeah.
	But okay, should we close the gap?
	If we should close the wage gap, which I mean, we've pretty much done, shouldn't we try to close it in other industries too, don't you think?
	Like.
	But like, aren't those hard gaps to compare?
	Like, you're comparing a death, like, a rate of how many people die on the job, and then like, how well, like, I mean, what are you, how would you close the gap of death?
	We should have maybe more female construction workers.
	Okay.
	More female roofers.
	But you said choice, and so it's everybody's choice for what they want to do.
	That's right.
	And women choose to go into careers that happen to be, generally speaking, lower-paying careers.
	And it also comes down to...
	We're saying people in the same job.
	Yeah.
	Like we can't compare two different jobs.
	I think she's talking about like people in the same exact job.
	Because like of course you compare like a construction worker who's earning a lot of hour to like a woman earning.
	Yeah, that's choice.
	Like she chose to take that lower paying job and then he chose to take a higher paying job.
	But like maybe like in the same business or same corporation or same job, whatever the case.
	Okay.
	Then maybe we could compare those, but like we can't compare two different jobs.
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	Agreed.
	Let's move on from this.
	All right, Eric, pull up the other super chat thing.
	Actually, let me get these super chats in.
	Hold on.
	All right, so we have Azom here, Larry David.
	Shout out to Ziz in the back.
	Azam, I'm going to try to get this later on in the show.
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	Free Willie and pay her less.
	Repeal the 19th.
	Yes or yes.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	I don't know who this is directed at, Michael.
	Okay.
	By the way, guys, all super chats will be displayed in Stream Overlay.
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	Shout out our people who are hooking it up on Twitch.
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	All right, so I think we're caught up there on the soup chats.
	So let me see.
	had a question for you guys um was it still my sorry one sec guys i got I got sidetracked here.
	Okay.
	So, hold on, oh the, duh.
	That's what I was going to do.
	Sorry, guys.
	I slipped my mind.
	We're going to do the dating app review.
	That's what I was meaning to do.
	eric if you can go ahead and pull up the dating app profiles we're going to review them okay we have jet how do you remind me jeslene Jesline.
	Jeslin, thank you.
	All right.
	This is her hinge profile, FYI.
	Hold on.
	Sixth Shot Nation.
	I see your chat.
	Hey, man.
	As far as bringing on another host, like, if you know someone in Santa Barbara that can host, let me know.
	But it's not that easy, man.
	Okay, so, guys, we're going to be doing a dating app review.
	Eric, go full screen while we do this on OBS.
	Just go full screen.
	All right.
	So, next one, Eric.
	All right.
	So she says, let's chat about anime and manga, mental health and tattoos, your last spur of the moment trip.
	Next one.
	That's always fun on the first date talking about our mental health trauma.
	All right, my BFF's take on why you should date me.
	She's in.
	Is this a different BFF?
	All right, she's intelligent, funny, encouraging, and deep.
	This girl is passionate, nurturing, and her third eye is open, a spiritual soul grounded by an earthly body, which may I say beautiful, curvy, and flexible.
	Ha.
	Okay.
	24, 5'1.
	Next, Eric.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Oh, okay.
	She drinks sometimes.
	She smokes weed and she's omitted if she does drugs.
	Do you do?
	You do drugs?
	It's omitted on the.
	Yes.
	Methamphetamine?
	No, absolutely.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	She's a volunteer coordinator.
	And next one.
	This is her alter ego.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Next one.
	Are you a dog person?
	This must have been a video, so it's a little blurry, but I guess is this you with your dog?
	Yeah.
	Okay, nice.
	Next.
	I'm looking for genuine connections.
	I don't want to idealize or fit someone into what I'm looking for.
	I want to find genuine people who can respect me as an individual and aren't just trying to fulfill their boredom.
	Okay, next.
	Genuine connections.
	Okay, next.
	Going out looking good and hyping up other bad bitches.
	I love to go dancing or even taking up a new creative project.
	Okay, next.
	Is this Monka TOS?
	Okay, next.
	Post-Coffee Me.
	All right.
	That's J Dog chat.
	Do you swipe left or do you swipe right on J Dog?
	Eric, you can go back.
	Swipe left or swipe right?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Chat, you guys are brutal as usual.
	Okay.
	So wait, one question though.
	So, Eric, can you pull up the genuine prompt?
	I just had a question on this.
	Go back to the prompt of hers where it was like, looking for a genuine connection.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	I know.
	Yeah, this one.
	Okay, you're looking for genuine connections, genuine people.
	Can you go back to what I was looking for?
	Wait, so okay, you said, like, how do you define genuine?
	Like, someone who's not trying to fit me into a box, someone who's open to an actual connection, a bond.
	So far, my opinion and my experience has been if we're not romantically involved, then the connection itself is not worth pursuing.
	And I'm just not looking for someone who is just trying to be perfect, I would say.
	Like, someone who's real, someone who can be honest.
	Who's real and honest?
	Okay, don't, please don't take offense to this.
	Please don't take this the wrong way.
	So the photo on the dating apps that you posted, like, they're super heavily filtered, right?
	Full face and makeup.
	Like, do you think it's fair of you to ask for someone who's genuine or real, but like, how you're representing yourself on the dating apps is like, here's me with a like full face makeup filter.
	Like, do you think that that's being ingenuine?
	For me, I'm an artist, so this is just how I present myself.
	So I, my personality and how I speak speaks for itself, so I don't, I don't find, I want someone who can look past basically everything that I know people look at me like, oh, she's a hoe because of the way she dresses, the way she's.
	I don't think that.
	Well, I'm not saying about you, but in general, I know that's the, or I throw out there.
	So someone who's genuine is not going to like see my makeup and be thrown off by that.
	And I've gone to full-on dates without makeup, like just to surprise people.
	Like it's not something that I constantly have on.
	I probably do it like once a week, but I like showing off my work because I do it not that often.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
	My question is, and we could open it up to the whole panel: is I don't think it's a surprise to any of us that for both men and women, something that we look for, we are making sort of assessments of someone's physical attractiveness on the dating apps.
	Both men and women are looking for partners that are typically physically attractive.
	And so I guess my question is when it comes to the dating apps, if you are posting heavily filtered or like full face makeup, if you don't have at least like one or two photos where it's just kind of like less, there's less makeup or less filter, do you think it's you're sort of misrepresenting your physical appearance when physical appearance is something that's super important to both men and women?
	I've dated guys all different body types, so I don't really see it that way.
	I do understand that is the not stereotype, that is like the stigma, that is what goes on, but I'm very full body positivity, so I don't, I don't view guys any differently.
	Or women any differently from being a little bit more.
	Okay, let me ask you guys this.
	Would you take issue with a guy lying about his height on a dating app?
	Like, would that be wrong of a guy to do?
	Because a lot of women care about height.
	It would just be funny.
	Here we'll go.
	Gabby?
	I wouldn't be mad.
	I'd just kind of be like, why'd you lie about it?
	Okay.
	Thoughts?
	Yeah, it would just be more funny because like, like as a girl, maybe you could, or like, there's certain things you can lie about.
	Maybe your eye color, you could throw some context in and be like, you lie about your height.
	Like, you show up in person, like, you're not that tall.
	Like, it's simple as that, you know?
	Sure.
	Nicole?
	Nicolette?
	My bad.
	That's not your real name, is it?
	Nicolette?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	Is it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But if someone lied.
	Yeah, like on a dating app, right?
	You're on a dating app.
	I'd be like, very weird for that.
	Okay.
	If it's like a huge difference, it's like lying about your dick size.
	Like, you're going to find out anyway.
	And I feel like filters different.
	Everyone uses a filter these days.
	Even men.
	I mean, I'm not on that side of the dating apps, but I can't imagine that the amount of men who are using filters is approaching the, is anywhere approaching how frequently women use filters on dating apps.
	And men don't wear makeup, broadly speaking.
	So you never, you probably almost never see men wearing makeup on dating apps, for example.
	Maybe they should.
	Well, I don't know about that, but...
	Maybe they'll get more days.
	But so do you guys think it would be okay if guys just start lying about their height on dating apps?
	I know, I mean, men already are lying about it, but do you think it's kind of like evens the playing field since women are kind of misrepresenting their own physical appearance as far as wearing makeup and using filters?
	Do you think that's like a fair trade-off?
	I think they lie about everything else or not, not everything.
	They lie about their job.
	Exactly.
	Guys, okay, guys in the chat, change your height, add three inches to your height, not the other thing.
	Say you have a better job than you actually have, went to a better school.
	Like, I don't know, that's kind of fair, don't you think?
	Or I think it would be like if they just altered the picture they uploaded.
	They altered the picture.
	Like, she's using filter and makeup.
	Him lying about his height would be like the information that he's entering into the dating app.
	Yeah.
	So maybe if he took his picture and blew it up so he like was taller in the picture, then that would be similar.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you're saying that what I'm saying is not comparable.
	No, you're, you're typing in, oh, I'm this tall.
	But like, if she's uploading a picture, you know, with a filter or with makeup, so he could upload a picture and maybe like put a filter on it or make him taller in the picture, then that would be comparable.
	But like.
	But well men can't we can't really get away with wearing makeup in the same way that women wear makeup.
	I think it's coming like more like mainstream that some men are wearing makeup now.
	Especially Korean culture.
	And a lot of Asian cultures men wear makeup.
	One time I was messing around with this guy and he did wear like concealer and stuff.
	He wore concealer?
	Yeah.
	What did you think of that?
	I was just like, well, at least he has like makeup wipes and stuff.
	You weren't turned off by that?
	I was a little taken aback, but I wasn't like weirded out or anything.
	What the fuck?
	How old was this guy?
	He was older than me.
	He was like 32 or something.
	32 and wearing concealer?
	Yeah.
	That's a yikes.
	I wanted to point out a comment.
	It says, why do you guys and some women worry about dick size?
	It normally only takes two or three fingers to blow with women nowadays.
	And I don't.
	Same thing with body positivity.
	I don't think dick size matters.
	It's more like what you're willing to put in like.
	Premotion of the ocean.
	Exactly.
	There's been guys who have like pretty good size dicks and it's like they weren't really into it.
	You can tell.
	You can tell in someone's eyes if they're fully interested in your pleasure.
	Like yeah Okay Yeah.
	Nicolette, what are your thoughts on penis size?
	Does it matter?
	Does size matter?
	Is the question.
	It does.
	By the way, what?
	Her only pants is in the description.
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	You can see.
	You can see lots.
	can see everything don't you have stuff on never mind um Okay.
	Does size matter?
	Yes. Mmm, yes.
	A little bit.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to say yes and no.
	I feel like, you know, your G-spot isn't that deep in anyways.
	So, like, a smaller penis could get that easier.
	And also what you're willing to go to do before then.
	Okay, so foreplay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	I'm with you, though.
	Fucking support for the small peens.
	Okay.
	Fuck, what was that stupid?
	What was that protest sign I did?
	It was stop shaming small peens.
	I don't know, something like that.
	You play basketball, though, right?
	Yes.
	What position do you play?
	Point guard.
	Point guard.
	Do you score?
	Yes.
	You don't score.
	So you score.
	That's right, baby.
	Okay, so do you date basketball players?
	I have before.
	Okay.
	What do you think about...
	Oh, God.
	Do I...
	Okay, you're a basketball player, and you go to CC, right?
	SBCC.
	What do you think of the WNBA?
	Do you want to play for the WNBA?
	I wouldn't be against playing for the WNBA, but those aren't my long-term goals.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And let's forget the WNBA shit stuff.
	Okay, let's do the next dating app review.
	Oh, by the way, this is her pending, she's got 32 pending chats, so she's very popular.
	32 on read, unanswered.
	So, wow.
	Congrats.
	And then two pending likes.
	Next.
	Okay, we got Haley here.
	Next.
	I'm convinced that I can out smoke you anytime, any day.
	All right, so I guess I'm assuming that's weed and not methamphetamine.
	No, definitely not.
	All right, she's 23, she's bisexual, she's 5'3.
	And next one, Eric.
	Oh, wait, actually, shit.
	Well, that's fine.
	She lived in Lawn Poke.
	That's all you need.
	Unusual skills.
	This was a video, I guess she's, is this like a jello shot?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Talent.
	Okay, next.
	Wait.
	Oh.
	Whoops.
	She's figuring out her dating goals next.
	Oh, she drinks and she smokes weed.
	Okay.
	She also omits the drug use, so you have to assume she does PCP.
	Kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Next.
	Okay, caption this foot.
	Okay.
	All right, next.
	Next.
	My BFF's take on why you should date me.
	She's nurturing.
	She's a good cook.
	If you're worth it, freaky as fuck.
	She's freaky as fuck, boys.
	Okay, go back to the, go back.
	With a best music playlist.
	Funny with a funnier laugh.
	Always bring the best vibes.
	A true baddie.
	Okay, what is, hold on.
	What does freaky as fuck mean?
	Just so the guys, they're going to need to know if they're going to swipe left or swipe right on you.
	What else would it mean?
	Freaky as fuck.
	So you're talking about like what?
	We're talking about sex.
	Well, of course we're talking about sex.
	I'm not going to go into all the details.
	We're talking exactly what's going on.
	Rope, what are we talking here?
	Freaky, that's it.
	Okay, she's freaky.
	All right.
	Go back, Eric.
	Next.
	Next.
	Okay, therapy recently taught me that I was a wounded child in an adult's body.
	I was determined to break the generational curse, and I did.
	Therapy was the best thing I've ever done.
	If you haven't already, you should do it too.
	I seem to see this a lot on apps.
	They say it's a green flag if you're in therapy.
	Okay.
	Next.
	And she has 25 pending chats on Hinge.
	So, okay, left or right for Haley.
	She's freaky as fuck, and she's in therapy.
	So, you know.
	You know, boys.
	Okay.
	Yeah, is that a, real quick, is it a green flag if a guy's in therapy?
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	Gabby?
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if you're not, that's not like a no, but like.
	Right.
	I think once you work through like some things that you're really struggling on that might have reflected in past relationships or like hookups, then yeah, it's attractive because it's like you're able to overcome and learn from what your struggles were.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I would say therapy is a green flag.
	Yeah, it's good.
	And you said yes, yeah?
	All right.
	Here's the hot I'm going to give the hot take.
	I think it's a red flag if someone's in therapy.
	Why?
	Okay, so it's a bigger red flag if they have a mental health issue and they're not in therapy.
	But if they're in therapy getting treated for something, then I to me, I think that's a red flag.
	I'd much rather someone who's not in therapy who doesn't have any issues going on, that's a green flag.
	You're gonna, okay, someone who's in therapy for severe bipolar disorder, you're gonna tell me that's a green flag.
	Okay, like.
	Well, just because somebody is bipolar doesn't mean that they can't function like normal people.
	And just because you're in therapy doesn't mean that you're like treating something.
	You have issues.
	And just because you're not in therapy doesn't mean that you don't have issues either.
	Men, well, okay, go ahead.
	Also, if you're not in therapy, how would you know you needed that help or not?
	I mean, you can be aware of ongoing, if you have any mental health issues, you can be aware of it.
	How?
	And just, I mean, if you know you have borderline personality disorder, if you know you have BP or bipolar disorder, if you have some other disorder.
	But some people can't choose what disorders they have or don't have.
	Of course, I'm not, but I'm just saying in terms of if I'm looking for a partner and the girl's like, yo, I've got fucking crazy bipolar and I've got BPD.
	What if she's like, oh, like, I'm just checking with a therapist here and there just to have someone like someone from the outside world giving me advice or their outtake on things?
	That's not I mean, that's not terrible, but it also helps because when you don't work through a lot of issues and like there are selective people in the world who, you know, like go on for most of their life, who probably don't have as extensive mental issues as other people.
	But.
	but let's say you end up with a girl who you really, really like and you want to build a future with her and she has mental issues, like it's going to reflect in your relationship with the people.
	I don't want to have a relationship with a girl who has mental issues.
	So if you really liked her and she was like, why are you shit?
	She's having depression, you'd be like, okay, bye.
	Why can't I have my own preferences?
	Honestly, that's up for you to decide.
	That's just my preference.
	I don't think it's like a red flag that someone's in therapy.
	For me, I think it's a red flag.
	It shows that they're working on it.
	That's fun.
	I don't have anything against people who are in therapy.
	If you want to get therapy, if that helps you, fantastic.
	But for a partner, like looking for a partner, I don't want someone in therapy or who needs therapy.
	So would you, like, if you had a partner and then you guys were having like relationship issues, would you go to couples therapy or would you just break it off?
	I probably would not probably would not go to a therapist.
	What's wrong with therapy?
	Like, what is the stigma for you around it?
	Okay.
	Well, I'd say the first thing is, are we talking about the couples therapy thing or are we talking about it?
	I'm talking about you because you're talking about people who go to therapy for themselves.
	what is the reason for you that it like what's the stigma for somebody who's going for themselves i i don't think there's or why would you go to therapy um I think the only scenario where I would go to therapy is if I was dealing with like, a death of a parent and maybe, like I needed to get some.
	Sometimes the hospice cares.
	Well, you know how, how do you cope with the death of a loved one?
	But like, in terms of my life difficulties, I would never see a therapist ever.
	You wouldn't consider that a life difficulty.
	Losing somebody like no, i'm talking.
	I'm talking about like, i'm talking just about oh, like life is tough.
	Like I just said I, the circumstance under which I might go to therapy is like, how do I cope with the death of a parent That's maybe, or the death of a child, or something.
	If I had kids and one of my children died, I'd maybe go to therapy under those circumstances.
	But like, just dealing with like the milieu and the fucking dredgery of life, no.
	All my problems, like, see, I think men and women tend to deal with their problems differently.
	I don't want to talk about my problems.
	I have difficulties, but I want solutions to my problems.
	I don't want to talk about my problems.
	The only thing you don't just bring solutions.
	What's that?
	Exactly.
	You said you want solutions.
	You don't want to talk about them.
	But like, I think that's what I'm saying.
	Have you been to therapy?
	Yeah.
	They don't really give you solutions.
	Have you been to therapy?
	Huh?
	Have you been to therapy?
	When I was younger, I had some anxiety issues.
	I had panic attacks.
	I saw a therapist and he helped me with my panic attacks.
	And that was.
	It's like if you met someone and they had panic attacks and they were seeing a therapist, you would not want to see them.
	Or if you met somebody and they were seeing a therapist because I think panic attacks would be okay, but I think most people are in actually, you might, you've maybe changed my mind a little bit on this.
	So I guess it depends what they're in there for.
	But I mean, generally speaking, I would say generally speaking, no, I would not want to date someone who's seen it.
	I think it's more of like a resource.
	Like you said, like if your parents passed away or like something or a loss of someone and you didn't know how to deal with it, you would use a therapist as a ref a resource to get a solution or to see insight.
	So like that would be the reason you would go.
	But then someone else could be like, it doesn't have to be like dreading life.
	It could be like losing a really good job.
	How do I deal with this?
	Like, you know, like someone can't find a solution, how you may be able to find a solution.
	If I just lost my job, I'm not paying through.
	Okay, well, that's probably not the best example.
	But I'm saying like losing a parent could be one.
	And like you said, I said that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then like someone doesn't go to therapy for just dreading life.
	They can go for like plenty of reasons.
	Or like if you, like you said, you wouldn't go see a couple's therapist, but like if you were with someone and you really like them and you guys can't find a solution, what's wrong with getting a solution another way?
	Just like you would go get a solution to yourself.
	So I'll tell you one of the reasons why I'm sort of against therapy is therapy is kind of anti-male.
	So what do you mean anti-male?
	Therapy, like the American Psychological Association, Eric, can you look it up?
	It's like American Psychological Association Maleness.
	I'm trying to see if I can, I don't know if it's the American Psychological Association.
	It's one of these organizations.
	And they said something about how masculinity, fuck, I'm trying to find it.
	Masculinity is harmful masculinity and fuck.
	I wish I had this ready to go, but I don't.
	All I have to say is narrowing down your options to like just kiki.
	Are you saying not every woman is in therapy?
	But you have like a lot of like stipulations.
	But like a woman can't even go through things in her life to need therapy.
	That's a lot of people.
	They don't even have to have a mental illness.
	It's just life.
	Like life happens.
	Also, mental health can be developed.
	So like if it's not a potential partner, it could be someone that you're already dating and they developed it over time.
	Like let's say if you were married and you guys were gonna have a kid, that woman could develop postpartum depression and it stays with her after that.
	Like would you still want to be with that partner or would you want to see that?
	Like I said, there are some circumstances where therapy is fine.
	But look, the point I'm trying to make is, if you're seeing a therapist, for example, and you have severe mental, it's kind of less the I'm in therapy and it's more, what are you in therapy for?
	That's the issue that I have.
	It's not strictly that you're in therapy.
	It's why are you in therapy?
	Are you in therapy because you're dealing with some crazy fucking baggage from an ex next.
	I don't want to, I don't want to deal with a girl that doesn't have anything to do with therapy.
	You're just like, I don't have any crazy baggage from an ex, so why would I deal with someone having crazy baggage from X?
	Yes.
	And as simple as that.
	But it's not the therapy aspect.
	It's just like, but they're in therapy to deal with that.
	But you're not like, oh, I'm not going to see you because you're in therapy.
	I'm not going to see you because you have a crazy ex.
	I'm not going to see you because you have mental health issues.
	I'm not going to see you because you're bipolar.
	Not because you're in therapy.
	Like, you should get therapy and you should get that help, but I don't want to see you.
	Yeah.
	But therapy is kind of the beacon that would point to someone either having a mental health issue or having some baggage from a past relationship, having some sort of past trauma.
	And hey, look, that stuff happens to people.
	Go get your therapy.
	That's great.
	If it helps you, perfect.
	But do I want to date someone that is coming to the relationship with a lot of baggage?
	No.
	For me personally, probably not.
	And that's okay.
	It's okay, like for your own personal preference, what you want.
	It's just my preference.
	And so basically, you're just like, therapy just sparks a red flag of why are you in therapy?
	Yes.
	Okay, yes, which is fine.
	You could be going to, you could be in therapy.
	And if the reason in terms of I'm looking at you and I'm like, hey, I'm going to date you.
	And if it's just like, oh, you know, you've got panic attacks and you're seeing a therapist that, you know, they're helping you with your panic attacks and anxiety, whatever.
	I mean, that's okay, right?
	But it really depends, I guess, like you said, the reason why they're in therapy.
	So, but like I said, you know, the whole therapy thing, I don't know.
	It's kind of seems very anti-male to me.
	So I don't know.
	Can I ask a question?
	Sure.
	Why do you think it's like that?
	Why is it anti-male?
	Well, I think there's a kind of seems to me to be a bit of an undertone going on of anti-maleness in a lot of spaces.
	Academia is one of them.
	And most psychologists, it's not typically a secret.
	You know, I consider myself politically center-left, like center, center-left.
	But amongst a lot of people on the left or people who are liberal, there's a very strong anti-male sentiment.
	So I'm not about that.
	So, and a lot of, I don't know.
	For example, a lot of psychologists, well, we don't have to continue on this, but let's move on.
	What were we talking about?
	Oh, the dating app review.
	Let's just go to the next dating app review.
	Unless someone had something more to add.
	I feel like I've been an incredibly Debbie Downer.
	You are.
	We're talking about real stuff, though.
	Go ahead.
	We'll pull up the dating app review.
	Next one.
	By the way, chat, can we get some fucking W's in the chat for Eric for being a fucking legend?
	W's in the chat for Eric.
	Call it Warrick.
	Can we get Wericks in the chat?
	Eric, pull it up so we can see if you can slide over the chat.
	What?
	Oh, it's catching up.
	There we go.
	Waricks in the chat.
	Okay, so we have Nicolette here.
	23, 5'2, and I'm kind of funny.
	Okay, next.
	She likes tattoos, bar chilling?
	Bar chilling.
	The fuck.
	Foodie tour, bar hopping, self-care.
	Okay, next.
	Next.
	We had to skip one because it was monkey TOS.
	Next.
	Fortunately, on Tinder, there's no prompts, but next.
	Okay.
	I think that's it.
	Is there a next?
	Is it?
	No.
	Wait.
	Is this it?
	Oh, that's just the profile.
	Okay.
	Chat, left or right on Nicolette.
	Left or right?
	How's the Tinder going, Nicolette?
	Is it going good?
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so I stopped using it for a couple months and I just started up again literally last night and I already got like five matches in less than 24 hours.
	So it's going pretty well.
	Five matches?
	Yeah.
	In like 12 hours.
	That seems low.
	Really?
	Yeah, it seems a bit low.
	Well, I'm not like swiping all day.
	Oh.
	Well.
	How many do you get in like 12 hours?
	Well, I feel like, from what I've heard from a lot of women, like you should probably have when you say matches, like because you're swiping left on a lot of dudes, right?
	Yeah, they're all like not that cute.
	Sorry if that's funny.
	Party foul.
	All right, so I want to.
	Did they what did they say for you?
	Was it left or right?
	Was it yes or no?
	I didn't see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I want to open it up to you guys.
	Is there anything dating related that you guys want to get off your chest?
	Could be recent bad date.
	Could be something that frustrates you with dating.
	Men just piss you off in some way.
	Anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
	Let's start with you.
	I do have some.
	Do you want me to come back to you?
	Please give you some time to think of it.
	Go ahead, Nicolette.
	Something that gives me the ick on dating apps is when guys will like use a photo, say with like a girl in it, and it's cropped.
	And you can clearly see that there was a girl in the photo, but then they like cropped it out.
	I'm like, that is so cringy.
	Like just take a better photo.
	When they crop out a girl?
	Yeah, I'm like, what the heck?
	Because you think it's like maybe the ex or something.
	Yeah, and it just like it's like, not a good look.
	Okay.
	Or when they're like six foot, if that matters.
	And it's like, if it matters, like, you just had to add that part.
	Cringy.
	So if they say six foot and that matters.
	No, they say, like, if that matters or since that matters, something like that.
	Is there a, I haven't been on Tinder in a long time.
	Is there a field for putting in your height or just everything has to be put in your bio?
	I think that I think there's like a field.
	Because like on Hinge, for example, there's field for like your height.
	There's field for all sorts of stuff.
	But I don't know if that's the case on Tinder.
	Okay.
	So you don't like that.
	Why do you dislike that if they say six feet?
	Like wouldn't you like to know if they're not going to be a little bit more like that?
	No, that's good if they put their height.
	But I'm just saying like when they're playing stupid and they're like, if that matters.
	Like have you guys seen that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's just like a thing.
	So you're saying that they should know that height matters?
	And just leave that part out.
	Yeah.
	They're like preemptively your issues.
	It's like stop playing stupid.
	You're annoying.
	Yeah.
	Anything for you?
	Well, I haven't been on dating apps to like have like an ick or like a.
	So, but it could just be anything dating related.
	So something that frustrates you about dating.
	I guess you're pissing you off.
	Well, I think like a lot of boys, girls feel, or ladies feel like when you're like dating or like first talking to someone, not even flirting and like they're not taking initiative or like starting the plan.
	It's very much like, can we chill?
	Or, you know, instead of like, oh, let's go here or be ready at this time.
	Like it's very much like a just nonchalant act.
	But maybe that could just be they're not interested too.
	So, okay, from friends that you've talked to and maybe your own experiences, guys are not wanting to sort of do more traditional things.
	Or just leaving it up to you.
	Like, I feel like maybe sometimes I can be considered dominant.
	So they're like, oh, like, it's up to you.
	What do you want to do?
	But it's like, no, like.
	You got to be dominant if you're going to hit that three-point shot, you know?
	But, okay.
	So you don't like it when the guy's like, whatever you want.
	Yeah, like, I want you to, like, tell me, like, what we're going to do.
	And then, of course, I'll tell you if I don't want to do that.
	But, like, I feel like it's good to have like a sense of direction, not like leaving it up to me.
	Or like.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And so that occurs with you frequently.
	That would make me just not want to hang out.
	Like, if someone was like, hey, like, let's chill.
	Like, I think a lot of guys say that, let's chill.
	What you doing?
	You want to chill?
	What you doing?
	W-I-D, what you doing?
	Let's chill.
	And is that something that is occurring very, like, very early on or even later on in the relationship?
	Well, I mean, if you're first meeting someone and like y'all are texting and they're texting you, what are you doing?
	Let's chill.
	It's kind of like, what do you mean?
	Chill?
	What do you want to do?
	Like, that's how I take it, you know?
	Like, when somebody texts me, what are you doing?
	Let's chill.
	Right.
	Nothing.
	I'm chilling right here.
	Like, what are you doing?
	Like, yeah.
	Yeah, that's pretty vague.
	Yeah.
	So, like, I feel like that would be like the only thing I could suggest.
	Or like going into the dating world, just like have a plan.
	If you're seeing a girl and you're like, want to take her out or want to spend time with her, don't just like have a plan, have a routine of what you want to do with her.
	What do you think guys mean when they say, do you want to chill?
	What do you think that means?
	Well, it could mean a lot of things.
	It could mean like they want to hook up.
	Yeah.
	Or it could mean like they don't know what you want to do.
	Okay, so there's for the most part, I would say in our age range and like especially being in college, most of the time, guys are like, what are you doing?
	Like, let's chill.
	Like, kind of implying, like, yeah, let's go hang out, like, watch a movie in your living room.
	And, like, basically implying, like, I'm trying to fuck later after we like chill.
	Let's chill is not like, let's go get food or something.
	Yeah.
	It's like, let's chill.
	And are you getting that?
	Or are your friends getting that?
	Like, this is maybe the first time that you would hang out with this person, first or second time.
	I wouldn't say like, I'm getting it, or my friends getting it, but I just know, like, even just like.
	You don't get that?
	I mean, I've hit, what are you doing?
	Let's chew.
	Like, yeah, somebody said that to me.
	Okay.
	And then it'd just be like, okay, what do you want to do?
	I think it's, sorry to cut you off.
	No, go ahead.
	I think it's more like if you're just trying to hook up, then you should make that clear from the get-go instead of like, what are you doing?
	Let's chill.
	Kind of like, well, I just met you.
	Do you actually want to chew?
	To chill?
	Or do you, are you just like trying to hook up?
	So you think guys should say up front if they just want to hook up?
	Yeah, I think that'd be great.
	Do you think that would work?
	Yeah, we talked about the last time.
	Well, yeah, so if a guy just said to you, for example, do you want to just hook up?
	Like, would you go for that?
	If I wanted to hook up.
	Do you, though?
	Not right.
	not like that but like like if a guy was approaching me like hey like i'm dating right now i'm I'm really not looking to go on dates or like see you and like end up being in a relationship.
	Would you be down to just hook up?
	I would just take that into account and then just go from there.
	The thing is, though.
	I wouldn't take that, like, him being rude or disrespectful.
	Okay.
	That's just him being honest.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, though, I think if most men are honest like that, if they were honest like that, they would lose a lot of women.
	Like, a lot of women wouldn't go for that.
	A lot of women want something before having sex.
	Well, then he would just be lying to have sex with her.
	But that's kind of the game.
	Like, that's the game.
	If you're going to lie, you should be honest.
	You should be honest.
	Of course, you should be honest.
	Because if you're coming to somebody's house and she's not, or like your intentions are in some place and she doesn't want to hook up and that's what happens anyways, sometimes it's like you get pressured into it.
	Okay, well, that's not really where I was going with that.
	But look, you can't really be upfront with a girl in the sense that if you're just like, hey, do you want to fuck?
	Here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	No, but like, okay, as a guy, if you tell a girl, listen, I want to fuck.
	I just want to fuck you once and never talk to you again.
	First off, I don't think that's a good look as a guy.
	I don't think you should do that.
	But if men were brutally honest with women, if y'all, bro, it'd be the end of the species.
	I think.
	If we were honest.
	I think it's obviously like the approach you take to say something like that.
	Obviously, if like, let's say I met someone at a bar and the first thing you're going to say to me is, I'm trying to fuck you.
	I'd be like.
	Eric, can you go full screen with the saying that?
	You know, like, it's just the approach.
	But obviously, like, let's take the same scenario.
	Let's say, like, you've been dancing with this guy for the whole night and you're like, okay, let's go home.
	I think that's like, I don't know, it's kind of weird because if you're at a club, it's kind of implying like you're looking for like, you know, like you're single.
	You may be looking for like more of a hookup in a clubbing scene than like a relationship, obviously.
	But like, if you're out on the street and a guy's like, let's fuck, I'd be like, why?
	Like, there's a different approach.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, context and situation, the situation you're in is important.
	But I mean, like, let's talk dating apps, for example.
	If a guy just like messaged a girl on the dating app and was just like, hey, what's up?
	Think you're cute.
	Let's hook up tonight.
	Whatever.
	Like, that's not really going to work.
	But aren't that what date?
	I mean, like, I don't know.
	I don't know personally, but do maybe some people do get on dating apps for looking for a relationship and looking for love.
	But like the what I've heard for Tinder, like just like where just being around my college friends and stuff, like they get on there to hook up.
	Like that's why you're on Tinder.
	You're swiping left and you're swiping right, and then you go out and you're finding people in your area and then you see them at the party like hey, I know you from Tinder and we matched like you know, like that's how I've heard it.
	It's not like oh, I'm on Tinder like looking for love.
	Like I'm sure if a girl received that message on Tinder like hey, I'm trying to hook up tonight, are you down?
	I don't think she'd be like wow, that was so rude.
	Like I think she would just look at him and be like yeah or no.
	Yeah, that's like standard.
	I don't think anyone's going on dating apps looking for like a real relationship.
	Look if, if I get on hinge, I am on hinge.
	If I'm on hinge right, and I just message a girl, I'm like hey, what's up?
	Are you down to hookup?
	Like it's not gonna happen.
	I wouldn't say hookup.
	But what works for me is when they're just like really straight up and they're like hey, like I'd really like to get to, like take you out.
	That's like that's the game yeah, so maybe you would have better luck hooking up.
	If you like paid on the dance, I'm not gonna pay on the date.
	Okay, you want to talk about this okay.
	No, I don't know, we'll talk about it.
	We'll talk about it.
	So you saying, like you feel like if you messaged a girl and said let's hook up, you would have no luck?
	Not Brian, he's not paying on dating.
	Have you tried it?
	Tried what like messaging?
	I'm only interested in hooking up?
	Um, I mean, I did.
	We did this as a social experiment actually.
	Eric, do you want to pull up the video?
	We'll watch it really quick.
	I need to get up here for a sec.
	Uh, we'll watch the Andrea one first.
	Can you pull up the Andrea clip oh sorry, not the super chat, the video and go full screen on it.
	Yeah, do.
	The Andrea asking, would you have sex with me?
	oh my gosh
	yes no ready please you can just kind of lay there and I'll just do my thing why not okay let's go I always want to ask you guys if you would be down to have sex with me I will definitely have sex with you like right like literally right now your house is like right over there right now are you down yeah why not let me know if this is too forward if you would have sex with me
	hold on I'm on the mom can I call you back maybe you'd want to have sex with me yes yeah like right now like literally my house like right over there sure you want to have sex with me are you out of your mind maybe a little bit kind of the best way oh no I'm completely sober you out of your mind in the best kind of way my husband okay you want to have sex with me
	yes I'm serious like my house is like right there all right I'm good okay let's do it you want to have sex with me yeah and my house is like right over there I don't know if this is serious.
	Would you like to hang out with us first?
	Um, no, you want to just go do it right now?
	Yeah, just be like really quick, like 15 minutes.
	That's totally fine with me.
	Okay.
	All right, ready to go?
	Yeah, let's go.
	Okay.
	I better not be getting robbed right now.
	Okay.
	That's the girl version.
	Eric, play the guy from Okay, but we'll get woody.
	I just thought you were really cute.
	And I want to know if you wanted to have sex.
	No.
	Okay.
	I just thought you were cute, and I wanted to know if you wanted to have sex.
	No.
	I thought you were really cute.
	And I wanted to know if you want to have sex with me.
	And I want to know if you wanted to have sex.
	Do you guys speak English?
	No.
	Where are you from?
	Australia.
	Oh, Australia, Cole.
	You guys are really cute.
	Okay.
	And I want to know if you guys wanted to have sex.
	Do you want to have sex?
	No?
	Wanted to have sex?
	I just thought you were cute, and I just want to know if you wanted to have sex.
	Thank you.
	All right, night.
	Sex with me.
	Are you stupid or I'm a little stupid?
	Well, you wanna lie on the ground or not?
	Right now.
	Yes.
	What do you mean, lie on the ground?
	Then we gotta slap you very hard.
	Yes?
	When I'm on the ground for you.
	That's not what you're gonna ask, a lady.
	No.
	Oh.
	I'm not from around here, so I don't know the custom.
	Anyways.
	Those are some results.
	That was me in Amsterdam many years ago.
	And your luck isn't good.
	I got actually one girl in Amsterdam said yes out of 200.
	So I'm one for 200.
	And a prostitute said yes, but I don't fuck prostitutes, so I don't know why I was looking at it.
	Maybe you could do a don't worry about it, Nicolette.
	You could do like another try with another guy.
	I did it with a guy who I'd say is better looking than me.
	We did it here in Isla Vista.
	He asked 100 girls.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	He's a pretty good looking dude, too.
	And super charismatic.
	I think it's because you're going up to like people unprovoked.
	And the people on dating apps are like looking for that.
	And also, guys will fuck anything.
	They fuck things that they're not even attracted to.
	And then they're like, oh my god, post not clarity.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	So that is why that happened.
	That is true.
	It's different for men and women.
	Because the girl who was asking, she was pretty.
	But I'm sure if you did, it was someone else who was maybe less good looking, she would still get a lot of.
	I would say, to be fair, yes, Andrea is like exceptionally attractive.
	But honestly, I think even if you did it with a less attractive girl, she's not going to be able to get it.
	She's less attractive.
	She's still going to kill it.
	She's still going to get it.
	I think if you is a pussy is a pussy.
	Yeah.
	But if you took a super, super, super fine man and sent him around Isla Vista, I think he might get lucky.
	So maybe your other, your other.
	Find me.
	Tell you what, I'll do it again, 2022.
	Find me the fucking hottest guy with a great personality to do it.
	And I think he's still going to get fucking brutally rejected.
	Not brutally rejected, but he's going to get turned down.
	I don't think he's going to get a yes.
	We can try it.
	We can try it.
	I think it's also about approach.
	Maybe we put a little beard on Nicolette, see how that goes.
	Who knows?
	She could maybe.
	I don't know.
	But okay, so that brings it back to like, look, it's harder for guys to get laid.
	And we got to play the game.
	So we can't just be super direct like that.
	We can't just be super direct, like upfront in that way.
	It doesn't work.
	We kind of have to be doing these little games, so to speak.
	I mean, sometimes yes, sometimes no.
	Like, it depends on who you're talking to, honestly.
	Like, on the dating app, it depends on like the girl you're messaging.
	Or like maybe reading her bio.
	Or like, if you maybe read her bio, super, I'm looking for something super genuine.
	But what if you got on someone else's bio?
	Like, I'm looking to hook up.
	And then you slid in a DM, like, I'm looking to hook up.
	She'd be like, perfect, perfect.
	Then that would be your, that would work.
	Like, you know, I feel like it's just who you talk to, right?
	There are definitely girls out there that, yeah, they'll hook up quick.
	They'll, but I'd say that's honestly.
	And sometimes even girls that do want that, they still want like something before it happens.
	They want something.
	I think that's more of like a sense of safety.
	Like, you don't, like, I don't know, as a female, you know, like, we're taught to kind of be cautious of our surroundings and kind of watch out for men.
	And obviously, if like a man is going to come up to me and be like, do you want to fuck?
	I'd be like, I don't know what.
	You're going to like shove me in a van and like go and like rate me.
	I don't know.
	You know, like there are situations that happen like that.
	And so I think it's more of a safety thing.
	But obviously, like, I don't think you have to go to the extent of like taking them on multiple dates.
	I think if even as like you could be like, oh, let's go get coffee 30 minutes out of your day.
	And you'd be like, I really think you're attractive.
	And I think like I want to see you, but more in a like a hookup sense than like going in a serious direction.
	Yeah, I could agree with you on that.
	Yeah.
	Because then you met at a coffee shop, you know them.
	Or not, you know them, but like there's some familiarity there.
	So maybe you approaching in Amsterdam like, or I don't know where you were in Europe.
	Yeah, I was a bit in France, a bit in Amsterdam.
	So like, you know, you're walking up on the street.
	Say someone did say yes.
	It's like, where are we going to go?
	Are we going to go down this alley?
	Like, you're, you know, women, you're probably stronger than a girl.
	Like, you know, but with the girl, like, the only one.
	We do play basketball, so I don't know.
	But even only one guy was like, am I going to get robbed?
	Like, you know, every other one felt very confident that we're going to have sex.
	And then say something else came along.
	You know?
	Like.
	Word?
	Word?
	Okay.
	Eric, you can show the chat again.
	I just wanted it.
	Okay, we got some.
	Oh, Jesus.
	I don't know.
	Cold Steel, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	There's a balance between one extreme of sexually propositioning strangers and the other of friend zoning yourself, being afraid to talk dirty to a date.
	Word?
	Cold steel, thank you for the $10 soup chat.
	Much appreciated.
	Oh, God.
	I don't know if we, I mean, it's already there, but Michael Trillstein, keep it polite, please.
	Keep it nice.
	Let's not be mean.
	Okay, so that stemmed from Your gripe was that men are just like saying, hey, let's just chill.
	They're not showing.
	They're not taking the initiative of, hey, let's meet here.
	Let's do this.
	They're not coming with a plan.
	Is that right?
	If you're going to get the cooter, at least buy me dinner.
	I think that's the least you can do.
	Brian.
	Do you agree?
	To an extent.
	I think men just want it too much.
	They want it too much to the extent that, like, they want it too much to the extent that it's oversaturated, same as, like, dick pics.
	Like, because they want it so much, like.
	They send dick pics?
	No.
	Well, some of them, yeah.
	Have you received a dick pic?
	Yes, I have seen a dick pic.
	Has everyone here received a dick pic?
	I've received a dick pic.
	Y'all motherfuckers be sending me dick pics and shit.
	What the fuck?
	You know what?
	I think, what do you guys think about this?
	I think women should start sending pussy pics.
	No.
	You guys get.
	You like, subscribe.
	$14 a month.
	Get your revenge.
	Start sending pussy pics.
	That's all I'm saying.
	We would.
	Send that shit.
	I'm telling you.
	What I was more saying also is because women don't really give out like that, just like have sex.
	Some do, but have sex like that or like just send free pictures, it makes them more desirable to men in men's eyes.
	So like that's why we don't really like we really get to choose the pick of the litter when it comes to like who we want to have sex with because um you're right.
	You're 100% right because like men desire us and that's also why we've got pretty privilege and free stuff.
	It's not because they respect us.
	It's because they objectify us.
	It's because we're trying to show face or like the girls in like music videos like the sexy hot women like women make money.
	Women help men make money by showing face and being sexual and being their sex sells, yeah.
	Exactly.
	So I mean you don't have four five men on here talking about these topics.
	You have five girls.
	Well it's more interesting to hear I think women's takes on modern dating.
	Sometimes I bring men on, but it's been tough to what the fuck.
	Oh my God.
	We'll get to it, Trilstein.
	Hold on.
	I'll do it right now.
	Why not?
	Michael Trilstein, $10 Super Chat.
	I demand a refund.
	Even Brian is canceling me now.
	Yeah, Michael, you're canceled.
	It's the internet.
	They're adults.
	They can handle a joke.
	Read the chats, bro.
	I don't know.
	I haven't been reading the chat, but I mean, if you're just being mean to the girls, I don't know.
	It's not.
	Should I do it?
	What?
	Do what?
	Read the chat?
	Should we read it?
	All right.
	Should we.
	Hmm.
	Um, eight miles of forehead.
	I'll know who you're talking to.
	I think he might be talking to me.
	Okay, tell you what.
	Do you want to fire back at Michael Trilstein?
	Look at his picture.
	Look at this guy.
	Oh, so he's like a reoccurring guest.
	Yeah, he roasts and stuff.
	Do you want to say anything?
	I mean, our foreheads are pretty similar.
	We could put them.
	Okay.
	It looks like he has a dollop of whipped cream on his head.
	Keep going.
	Michael gets no bitches.
	And it shows.
	Look like the naked mole rat from the naked mole rat.
	Uh-oh.
	We should name you, Rufus.
	I'm sorry.
	Michael Trilstein with the $10 super chat.
	He's firing back now.
	She belongs to the C's.
	Well, yeah, you said I'm Jack Sparrow, so I'm thinking that's $50 now from him, huh?
	Something like that.
	All right.
	Thank you, Michael Trilstein.
	Much appreciated.
	Canceled.
	What were we talking about?
	We're talking about paying for dates or some shit.
	She said, if you want the cooter, you got to buy her dinner.
	Yeah, like, for example, I was talking to this guy.
	And at first, we would go out and like go on little dinner dates and stuff.
	And then he just started texting me, like, come over.
	And I'm like, about to cut him off because that's like boring.
	It's so like not exciting.
	It's like, okay, I'm going to come over.
	We're going to fuck and then I'll leave.
	It's like, that's so boring.
	Like, what do I get out of that?
	I probably won't even come.
	So even after you've already hooked up with the guy, you still want to pay for your dinner?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's my temple, Brian.
	Your temple?
	That's my vagina.
	What about it?
	It's sacred.
	You have to at least buy me dinner.
	Or $14.99 on OnlyFans?
	What?
	They did touch it.
	No, All right.
	Michael Trillstein, $10 super chat.
	See, it's all fun.
	Ladies love you all.
	It's just jokes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	They took it in good spirit.
	I wasn't sure.
	I wasn't sure.
	I don't think, and you guys are probably not going to appreciate this take.
	Probably haven't appreciated it in my takes, but I don't think men should pay for a girl on a date.
	First date.
	The man should not pay.
	So who should?
	Well, you should split, or you should pay your respective bills.
	I think it depends on who invites who.
	Oh.
	Does anyone else agree with that?
	Whoever asks should pay.
	Gabby?
	No.
	I think, yeah, whoever initiates it, but also I'm like, out of courtesy, going to be like, do you want to split 50-50?
	I mean, it's obviously nice, and like, it feels good when someone wants to pay for you, but honestly, I don't feel like a guy should be obligated to pay.
	Okay, that's fair.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, like, I would agree.
	I think you can take a look at, like, if he asks you, like, can I take you out to dinner?
	And then you get there, but I wouldn't be like opposed.
	Like, if it's our very first date, like, I wouldn't be like, I would offer.
	Yeah, like, do you want to split the bill?
	I mean, if we started, like, literally paying for individual drinks and appetizers, like, that would, like, take me back a little bit.
	But, like, honestly, I wouldn't be bothered if we split the bill on the first date.
	And it's obviously like another thing if you're like racking up the bill, you know, like if you were out on a date with a girl and she's like, I want this drink and this drink and this appetizer and this, this, this, like, then you'd be kind of like, we're on a date.
	Like, I'm doing the courtesy of paying for both of us because I want to get to know you and I want to like go on a date with you.
	But like, now you're just kind of taking advantage of the date.
	It would just be like if a friend, like, if I was like, Gabby, can I take you out to dinner?
	And then we got to dinner and like I made her split the bill.
	It would just be like, I didn't ask to be here.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	Okay.
	Nicolette, what do you think?
	If a guy suggested that I split the bill, I'm never talking to him again.
	And we're not fucking.
	And that's it.
	I'm like blocking you.
	Unmatched.
	Shucks.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	To me, that's not really a date.
	It's more like we're just hanging out.
	I'm not opposed to it.
	It would just mean that we're just friends.
	But like, let's say you met someone, you're messaging someone on a dating app, or the context is clearly a romantic one.
	It's not like a just friends thing typically if you meet someone on a dating app.
	So what about then?
	And there's an expectation.
	Let's say you're meeting for drinks or you're meeting for dinner.
	And he wants to split.
	If he asked me to split, I would split it.
	I would.
	If we communicated that he was in a place to buy my dinner, I would be understanding, but it wouldn't.
	That would have to be communicated to me.
	Beforehand.
	Exactly.
	Well, what if it's just on the date?
	Let's say you're on the date.
	It was not communicated.
	And he's like, waiter, two checks.
	I would pay my check and go about my day.
	I probably wouldn't.
	How would you feel about it?
	Separate checks.
	Depending how the date went, like if we were having good conversations and everything and I really vibed with that person, I think it would change my perspective.
	For the negative.
	Huh?
	From the negative, yeah.
	It would be more negative.
	If it was otherwise going good, but he said two checks.
	It wouldn't be negative if it didn't be like a minus to him if he was like a good vibe overall.
	So you wouldn't feel a certain type of way if a guy said.
	Read Sharky's comment.
	What do you see?
	If a man can't afford to pay, he shouldn't be dating.
	No, exactly.
	I feel that.
	So should broke women also not date?
	I'm sorry, read his comment at the bottom, not the first one.
	If a man can't afford to pay, he shouldn't be dating.
	He should be working.
	That one?
	Same for women.
	If you can't pull up to the date and cover your half of the bill, then don't expect him to cover the whole bill.
	Oh, well, yeah, I can agree with that.
	Like, a date is going to be, like, what, max?
	$100, $150.
	my god if you can't oh what that's That's wild.
	I'm taking you to In-N-Out.
	If you can't afford that, then like, that's embarrassing.
	Why am I going out with a guy who can't even afford that?
	Like, no.
	Moving on, I'm chatting it.
	Like, I'm setting the group chat an update.
	We're all going to make fun of you.
	Oh, you're going to make fun of me.
	Yeah.
	Yo, okay.
	Here's my thing, right?
	I don't pay for women on dates.
	Well, why?
	What's your reason?
	Well, okay, I'll give you some.
	There are some extenuating circumstances.
	I'll pay if I out-earn her.
	So if she's like younger than me, like 20, 21 or some shit, then I'll pay.
	Like, she's in college, then I'll pay.
	But if you're like 30 and you're in the corporate world, you're making six figures.
	You're an attorney, you're a nurse, you're a physician assistant, whatever it is, you're making six figures.
	Why am I going to pay for your meal?
	No.
	Secondly, foodie calls exist.
	Girls be going on dates with guys just for a free dinner.
	So, Eric, go, can you put it full screen the OBS?
	So foodie calls exist.
	Girls be going on dates just to get a free dinner or a free experience.
	Might not be dinner.
	It could just be, oh, he's inviting me to go here or go this concert.
	Doing it for the free experience.
	I'm not saying all women, but like most men who are consistently dating in 2022 are going to encounter a foodie call situation.
	The other thing is, is that I don't pay for girls that are fucking other guys.
	Sorry.
	Like, and I have to assume if I'm going on a date with a girl, she's fucking at least one other dude.
	So I'm not going to pay for you.
	I'm not going to do the traditional thing when you just got fucked last night.
	Like, no, I'm not going to be the traditional guy.
	I'm not going to adhere to my traditional gender rules when you're not being traditional yourself.
	The next guy will.
	That's totally fine.
	He can have you.
	And he'll get laid.
	That's great.
	Sloppy seconds.
	Good for you.
	That's based off an assumption that he's getting fucked.
	That's more based off an insecurity of trust, not being able to trust that person.
	It's not insecure for me to not want to deal with women that are getting fucked by other men.
	How do you know that they are, though?
	How would you know?
	I'm assuming.
	Didn't you just, earlier you said you were dating like four or five dudes?
	Okay, we're not talking about me.
	Okay, but in 2022, the way the dating landscape is for both men and women, people are just fucking.
	Like, people have so many other partners.
	Brian, you scared to get your bitch fucked.
	What's that?
	No, sorry, I didn't hear you.
	Repeat it.
	I said you're scared to be hooking up with a girl who's getting fucked.
	Scared.
	To get your bitch fucked.
	I'm scared to fuck a bitch who's getting fucked?
	Yes.
	You're scared to go on a date and pay for somebody who got fucked last night.
	Why do you care?
	You would fuck her, but you won't pay for a dinner.
	No, I wouldn't.
	Fuck her.
	I don't want, honestly, I don't want anything to do with a woman.
	So why are you even on a date with her if you think she got fucked last night?
	Yeah, if you're assuming, then why would you even go out with her in the first place?
	Even unassuming women, there's no way to know.
	I can't know for sure.
	So when do you pay?
	When do I pay?
	When it's established that she is committed to me.
	I'm not going to pay unless that's my girl.
	Okay.
	If she's not my girl, we can split.
	Okay.
	And that's perfect for you to do.
	We can split.
	So until she's your girlfriend, you don't want to pay for the dinner or whatever y'all are doing.
	If she's my girlfriend, well, look, if she's making money, let's keep fucking, we're going 50-50.
	if she's making what if she's making 300k why why am i gonna but is it a thing of like i'm paying because you can't afford it or i'm paying because i want to Or we're splitting it because you can't afford it?
	Like, you know, like, what is your, it's like, you're not paying because she's getting fucked or you're not paying because she can afford it.
	Look, let me give you an example.
	If I'm dating a girl who's 22, let's say she's in college or whatever, and we've been dating for a while and I want to go, well, if she's 22, I'm probably going to pay from the jump, but I'm also still going to be screening out for, is she potentially sleeping with other people?
	But beyond that, like, let's say I want to go to Hawaii, for example.
	If I'm dating a partner who's making money, we're going to, and we want to go on vacation, I'm going to split it.
	But if I want to go on vacation and I want to bring my girlfriend, but she just, she's not earning that much, I'm just going to pay for the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	Like, and I'll do that with a girl, with a girlfriend.
	I'll just pay the whole thing.
	Flights, hotel, everything.
	But.
	But then you just said if you were dating a 21-year-old, you would pay from the jump.
	But then you just said you wouldn't pay for a date that's getting fucked the night before.
	Or like who you assume might get fucked the night before.
	But if you're dating a 21-year-old who's in college, what do you assume?
	She might be fucking other people.
	But then you say you would pay because she's young, she don't got it.
	So that's a good question.
	If she's fucking, regardless of her income, if she's fucking somebody else, it's a wrap.
	But you just say, if you're from the beginning with the 21-year-old, you're going to pay because she's younger and she probably can't afford it.
	If, and, and, and, if she's not getting fucked.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Okay.
	If I can suss it out that she's probably got a couple things going on, I don't want to deal with her.
	Yeah.
	Um, sometimes you can't, you know, you can't always tell up front, but I'm a maneuver in such a way that when I go on a date, I'm not going to pay for her bill.
	He shows up early.
	Yeah, I said this in the last show.
	Listen, you show up early.
	If it's a sit-down place, guys don't do dinner dates.
	If it's a sit-down place, you show up early.
	The waiter comes, like, sometimes there's drink places where there's a waiter or whatever.
	They'll come.
	You tell the waiter, hey, when I ask for the check, please bring separate checks for our own drinks or whatever.
	So I tell them beforehand, because look, let's be honest.
	You're coming prepared.
	Like, I've never heard that in my whole entire life.
	Honestly.
	Someone showing up early to tell the waiter to split the check by the end of the day.
	Some gangsta shit.
	Also, you don't, here's the thing, guys.
	You don't even have to be early because they're going to be late anyways.
	They're going to be late for the date anyway.
	So just get there on time and then you can still do the thing.
	Who do you date?
	Who do I date?
	I need to know.
	Love, I'm telling you, most women, in my experience, most women are late on dates.
	On dates.
	They're late.
	To be fair, you guys were an hour late for the show.
	That's another.
	We're not dating, so.
	Yeah.
	Would you say that, would you call it when a girl goes out on a date just for the free food?
	Foodie call.
	Foodie call, would you say that's an equivalent of men like saying that they're interested just to have sex?
	I don't think it's the same thing.
	I don't think it's the same thing.
	Why?
	I just don't see the.
	She acts like she's interested to get a free meal.
	He acts like he's interested to have sex.
	The thing is, though, is that when it comes to the free meal, as the guy, if you're paying for a woman, you are providing a value.
	You're providing value.
	Whereas sex is an equal value exchange.
	You both get something from that.
	You both get the experience of having sex.
	But we don't.
	Unless you guys view sex as a chore, which is a dog shit way to view sex.
	I feel like for women, when it's just like a hookup thing and it's not a relationship thing, we don't come.
	It's just like the guys that are always coming.
	Well, she comes first in my book.
	That's my role.
	That's how it should be.
	But sex is.
	I think that might be the one good thing you said today, right?
	Probably.
	Probably.
	I've been toxic as fuck tonight.
	But sex is an equal value exchange.
	If you both have sex, you both enjoy the sex.
	Maybe you don't enjoy it.
	You both get to have sex.
	When it comes to paying for a dinner, what benefit is the guy receiving by paying for the dinner?
	So maybe for a guy who's not, the girl comes first, is like, I'm going to pay for your dinner so you can make me come.
	But you are like, I don't need to pay for your dinner because I'm going to make you come too.
	So that's your mindset.
	That's not entirely how I'm looking at it.
	That's not entirely how I'm looking at it.
	And also, I mean, sex can still be enjoyable even if you don't come.
	I'm sure we can agree on that, that you can still enjoy sex even if you don't come.
	Maybe not Nicolette.
	She's rolling.
	No, I agree.
	Rolling her eyes.
	I agree.
	But I just feel like you should just pay.
	Like, that's so embarrassing.
	For who?
	For who.
	And I feel like as women, like, I can't believe what I've heard.
	Like, if a man asks you to, like, split the bill, go home, girl.
	Do not give him your pussy.
	Like, you know, you're worth at least a $100 meal, at least.
	Bro, what?
	That makes no sense.
	That makes no sense.
	And, like, if I'm going out on a date with you, I'm probably like considering fucking you.
	So just lock it in and pay.
	It's kind of like dinner.
	Sounds like prostitution.
	For a meal.
	That sounds like prostitution.
	Whatever you want to call it.
	Go ahead.
	Sometimes I have to question my life choices after I just like hooked up with some dent finish and I didn't get anything out of it.
	So it's like, we'll fuck for food.
	Look, a lot of you said whoever asks should pay for the date.
	I mean, that's very idealistic, but women really aren't asking men out on dates.
	Yeah, I've never asked.
	Generally speaking.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I've never asked a guy on a date.
	Exhibit A.
	I have.
	I have as well.
	The majority of the time of all the first dates you've been on, would you say you've asked the guy out more than the guy's asked you out?
	No.
	Okay.
	So I would say 97% of all first dates that have occurred, and it's probably more than 97%.
	It's probably 99% of all first dates that have ever occurred, the guy is asking the girl out.
	So maybe, so when you ask, do you say, hey, can I take you out to dinner?
	Or do you say, hey, let's go to dinner?
	Good question.
	So I phrase it such that they should take a hint that it's going to be split.
	But I'm going to say, hey, let's, do you want to grab dinner?
	Yeah.
	So if you want to grab a date, can I take you out to a damn?
	Okay, so then if you, yeah, then you, okay, so you're being honest.
	Like, you know, but if someone approached me and was like, hey, can I take you out for dinner?
	And then we got there and then didn't pay, I would, whether it was a date or a friend or anybody, I would just kind of be like, you asked to take me out.
	The words take me out mean I'm going to treat you.
	You're right.
	So if you say, yes, if you say, can I take you out for dinner?
	Yes, I think you should pay.
	Yeah.
	Also, guys, this shit loses me women.
	Like, this is not going to get you women doing what I do.
	Absolutely.
	But I'm a man of principle.
	I'm a man of principle.
	And all I gotta say is if you want to get some ass, Just pay for the date.
	Also, if you want to feel like shit after you've paid for the date, pay for the date and then never hear from her again or have her ghost you or have her fucking string you along or have her continue to bring you have you bring her out on dates and keep paying and keep paying while she's finessing the dates out of you and then and then keep paying keep paying by the way You're paying for her on dates.
	She's fucking another dude So you would say you not paying just makes you feel better It makes me feel better to not pay too here's the here's the here's the example I like to give right one of the word like a pretty terrible thing that could happen as a dude is for you to pay for a girl's dinner Let's say she gets it she has some leftover.
	She gets a to-go bag.
	She gives you an ass out hug, you know, the ass out hug at the end of the night.
	Maybe a kiss on the cheek.
	Oh, great.
	Had a great date with you.
	She takes the to-go bag.
	Date ends at 9 p.m., 10 p.m.
	She brings it over to the guy's house who she's fucking, gives him the food that you paid for.
	He eats it.
	Then she fucks him.
	By the way, he never had to pay for her.
	How did that happen to you?
	I don't really pay for dates.
	So it's plausible it's happened.
	I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure I've paid for a girl at some point and then she went and fucked her fuck buddy the night that night or the next day.
	It happens.
	So when you have paid for a date and like they don't fuck you, you don't feel away.
	If I because you just said like you pay for the date.
	I have no expectation.
	There's no expectation.
	It's not like, oh, if I pay for you, you better fuck.
	It's not weird like that.
	No, I don't have any expectations at all.
	But it's more so if I pay and you're essentially cucking me and fucking another dude, that's where the issue is.
	And like most, a lot of women out here and men too, people are fucking multiple people at the same time.
	There's crossover.
	Like a lot of women aren't really truly ever single.
	There's some guy they're hooking up with.
	They're hooking up with their ex, whatever it may be.
	So I mean, my advice to men is you don't pay for women that are fucking other men.
	Just wrap it up.
	Just wrap it up.
	No, you don't even, you don't even.
	You don't even fuck women that are fucking other men.
	I don't even, even if, look, I don't want to do anything with a girl that's if she's fucking another dude.
	For me, it's a wrap.
	I don't want to.
	So you're more of a one-woman type of man.
	I am.
	Okay.
	I am.
	Maybe that's rare in today's day and age.
	No, but like you hold that standard for yourself, so you hold the same for a woman that you're possibly dating, which is completely valid.
	Yeah.
	Like people be dating a whole bunch of people and I just, I don't, I just don't, I don't want anything.
	If I know that you're entertaining another dude, if you're hooking up with another guy, it's done.
	I don't want to, I'm not going to see you again.
	I don't want to kiss you.
	I don't want, I don't even want, I don't want to fuck you.
	Nothing.
	So when you're dating, you're not dating.
	You're dating one person.
	Dating one person?
	Like, you know how someone's like, oh, I'm dating right now.
	Or like, I'm on a.
	If I'm sleeping with someone, like, I'm almost only sleeping, almost always only sleeping with them.
	I'm not sleeping dating.
	Like when you're going on dinner dates and you're like, basically, what you just said, like, if you're hooking up, fucking with your ex, like, I want nothing to do with you.
	So, like, how do you even get in the dating world?
	Like, you're looking for people just like you don't.
	Yeah, like, you know, like, that's what I'm saying.
	You're like, you want nothing to do with someone, but you don't even know this person that you're potentially going to go on this first date with.
	Unless they get to the date, like, yeah, like this is the situation.
	Like, it makes dating hard.
	Yeah, because a lot of people are not going into new things being totally 100% single.
	Yeah.
	They're still fucking with somebody.
	They got a fuck buddy.
	They got three sneaky links.
	Like, I've, I've, I've kind of just basically opted out.
	I've just opted out for the most part.
	I will go on dates occasionally, but like for the most part, like people be fucking.
	And I don't want anything to do with it.
	You're going to have more fun with the slut, though.
	How?
	I'm going to have more fun with the slut.
	Yeah.
	Dude, it's so gross.
	I don't want it.
	I do not want it.
	Why would I have more fun with the slut?
	The herpes or the gonorrhea?
	Just the experience and that they know what they're doing.
	I know what I'm doing, so give me a virgin.
	I don't care.
	I know what I'm doing.
	That's so boring.
	Who wants to fuck a virgin?
	I do.
	You guys do.
	That's so funny.
	Give me a virgin.
	I don't know what I'm doing.
	Bloody boring.
	She's not going to know how to suck your dick.
	I'll teach her.
	Yeah, that sounds weird.
	Who wants grooming behavior?
	How's it grooming behavior?
	You want to teach someone to fuck only if they've never.
	If someone's never given a blow job, how would it be grooming to teach them how to give them a blow job?
	Well, you're saying that you want a virgin to teach.
	That sounds like grooming.
	A virgin $3,000.
	How would that be grooming?
	Explain how that would be grooming.
	Just like there's not many virgins your age out there, so clearly you're going to go after someone younger, which is why you reference saying that you would only pay for college girls because that seems to be like you're probably where you have most luck because they don't know any better and they will probably sleep with you if you don't pay for their date.
	That's actually not true at all.
	Plenty of women who are like, oh, I'm going to date older men because they have more experience.
	They're wiser.
	And there's a lot of guys who basically want youth.
	Like they want younger women because they have less knowledge of what they deserve, what they like in bed, what they want for themselves.
	They don't fully know themselves yet.
	So they go for those younger women in order to basically feel good about themselves, feel good about their ego.
	It could go vice versa too.
	There's a lot of older women who groom younger men, you know.
	It's not, if they're adults, it's not grooming.
	Grooming is like, you're using like P-word, like predatory terminology here.
	We're talking about adult relationships, 18 and over.
	But how many hot like adult virgins do you know?
	Probably not many.
	There's more.
	I'll tell you.
	I'll tell you this.
	There's more male virgins than there are women virgins.
	That's for sure.
	I have a lot of people who are amongst adults.
	Yeah, there's more virgins.
	You said there's more male virgins.
	There's more adult male virgins than there are adult female virgins.
	Who are the ladies losing their virginity to?
	Oh, maybe not the virgin males, huh?
	But okay, hold on.
	So you said that, just to bring it back to this, you said that men go for younger women because They want to feel good about themselves because they're young and dumb.
	Easier to manipulate than dumb.
	Men are attracted to younger women.
	It's hardwired attraction traits.
	It's rooted in biology and evolution.
	But how old are you, Brian?
	I'm 33.
	What would you and an 18-year-old have in common?
	I mean, I'm really not dating 18.
	But I'm like, okay, maybe not.
	21, a 21-year-old, for example.
	Like, what would you and a 21-year-old have in common?
	She's just entered a real world.
	Okay.
	We would have sex in common.
	Okay, that's it, though.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Like, that's cool.
	But I'm saying, like, when you talk about men dating younger women, like, they're dating it for sex, not because, wow, our minds really click and we see eye to eye.
	My experiences match her experiences.
	You realize that, like, most men deal with women for sex, right?
	So you're dating for sex, but you want a virgin?
	Huh?
	I don't make sense.
	Like, what?
	How can she match you with sex?
	Sex with a virgin is going to be so boring.
	No, it wouldn't.
	It's going to be language.
	No, it wouldn't.
	No, it wouldn't.
	What are you talking about?
	Email breaker.
	It's blood.
	Bro, they're using tampons and oh my god.
	You are like sounding so celibate.
	Yeah, tampons has nothing to do with tampons.
	I mean, it's hot, but it's inserted.
	Like, it's higher.
	It's not matter, though.
	I think it's higher up, right?
	That you're in.
	Yeah, it definitely is.
	You can wear tampons and not pop your virginity.
	Would you fuck a girl in her period?
	Hold on.
	Yo, yo, yo, yo.
	Hold on.
	Tampons higher up?
	No, like there's two holes.
	Oh my god, Brian's about to explain a vagina to us.
	Do you guys need me to teach you female anatomy?
	you're talking higher up the urethra the the a tampon does not go in there is no we're saying like what what no No, but you said higher up.
	A tampon.
	The hymen is higher up.
	Yeah.
	Like the tampon just goes where it's not going to reach.
	Like I don't think unless you really did a super long tampon or pushed it really far up.
	I don't think it could pop the cherry.
	Oh no.
	Tampons.
	I think if you're using a tampon, I think your hymen has to be popped.
	No, no, no.
	Because isn't that like the entrance of the vagina?
	No.
	The hymen's at the entrance.
	I don't know.
	Where does the sex ed right now?
	Okay.
	The American school system has failed.
	Why are we even talking about.
	I forgot how we got here.
	We're talking about Nicolette.
	Put it in the butt.
	Nicolette is derailing the conversation here.
	Okay, so we were talking about how it would be so terrible to sleep with a virgin, a girl who's a virgin.
	Yeah, sounds boring.
	I think it would just be different sex experiences.
	You will have different sex with a virgin than you would have with like a slug.
	Okay, men.
	Men.
	Most, if you ask most men, even for a one-night stand, would you rather get with a girl who's a virgin or a girl who slept with 50 other men?
	Most men are going to say, give me the girl who's a virgin.
	For a one-night stand.
	So they can have that.
	Even for a one-night stand, yeah.
	Maybe they would take the virgin to be with.
	No, even for a one-night stand.
	Here, let's ask the chat.
	Eric, you can reveal the chat again if you want.
	Okay, chat.
	One in the chat, if for, okay, for a one-night stand, one in the chat, if you'd rather get with a virgin or a girl with like a very low body count, let's say one or two.
	For a one-night stand.
	For a one-night stand or two in the chat, if you want to get with a girl with 30-plus bodies, let's say.
	One in the chat, one-night stand with a virgin, two in the chat, one-night stand with a girl with 40 bodies.
	You found your people, Brian.
	These are my peeps.
	These are your people.
	I don't think you guys understand that men value sexual purity in women.
	I think just these guys.
	I just feel like body counts.
	I'm into the mic, closer to the mind.
	I just feel like it shouldn't necessarily matter that much.
	I'm not going into something with somebody like, oh my God, how many people have you slept with?
	I just think it's a ridiculous question.
	Women care less about body count than men do.
	Because men tend to have a really big body count.
	Maybe only the men that you sleep with, but maybe not.
	I'm just saying, like, I think even women hold themselves to, like, care more about their body count than a man does.
	Like, I think if you walked up to a man, like, do you care about your body count?
	He'd be like, no.
	But if you walked up to a girl and she's like, do you care about your body count?
	She'd be like, yeah, I kind of do.
	That's because men and women are different and we value different things.
	Exactly.
	So what are you, like, what is your point you're getting at?
	Okay, so, gosh.
	All right.
	She's saying body count doesn't matter.
	I'm saying body count does matter.
	Why?
	Because women matter.
	Men don't want to date or marry the town bicycle.
	Men do not want to date promiscuous women.
	So a woman's body count, I think, okay, this is a better way to say it.
	A woman's body count matters to a man, but his own body count does not matter that much.
	Well, you know what's funny?
	They actually, the common sort of, what I've commonly heard is men care about women's body count.
	Women don't really care about men's body count.
	I actually saw a study recently that showed that actually both sexes care about body count.
	Now, I don't know on the women's side what's true, what's not, but I can tell you with certainty for men, we do care about body count.
	And I do think generally speaking, women, at least from what women have told me on this panel, they care much less about it than do men.
	And by the way, I don't have a double standard on this.
	I think women are totally free if they're like, hey, I don't want to date a player.
	I don't want to date a guy who's just ran through a bunch of chicks.
	I don't want to date a guy who's got a high body count.
	I think that's totally fine.
	Totally fine.
	So I don't have a double standard in that sense.
	But yes, men care about body count.
	I think men think that they care about body count, but as you just saw in that social experiment, they also put on the spot.
	No, when the girl asked, do you want to fuck?
	None of them were like, what's your body count, though?
	Like in real life, if they're presented with sex, they're not thinking like, what's her body count?
	They're just going to fuck and be happy with it and like move on with their lives.
	But okay, so the one and two thing that I did, that was just to elaborate a point.
	Even for a one-night stand, if given the option, if she's a virgin for a one-night stand, they'd still take the virgin.
	Guys will hook up with promiscuous women.
	They'll have casual sex with promiscuous women.
	You will not get the girlfriend title.
	You will not get the wife title.
	Doesn't matter.
	What we were asking them was for a one-night stand.
	But okay, we're talking about...
	No one's trying to get wiped out.
	But okay, that's what I'm talking about here.
	When it comes to long-term commitment.
	The body count matters.
	Body count matters.
	Will a guy fuck you and not really care about your body count?
	Probably.
	But I was trying to make a point.
	Even in a one-night stand, if we had an option, if we had a choice, we would still prefer.
	Because you were talking about, well, the pussy's going to be whack if she's a virgin and she won't know how to suck dick and it's the sex is going to be bad.
	And I'm telling you, even for a one-night stand, give us a virgin who probably ain't the best in bed.
	We'll take that because it's just, it's much more.
	It's like a mental thing.
	It's a mental thing.
	Okay, I could see that, but also I could see what she's saying.
	Why you might have fun with someone who has, it's just like, where are you going for the night?
	Or like, what are your plans for the night?
	Like, you're like, damn, I got this girl who ain't never been with nobody.
	Okay, I feel honored or however you may feel special.
	And then on another night, you like, bro, I'm not trying to sit around and teach you all of this right now.
	I'm trying to.
	Closer to have a teaching lesson tonight.
	I'm trying to have fun.
	And then, like, you know, it's just like, like you said, like, maybe it's just how that person wants to go about it that night.
	But I definitely, like, do you see what she's saying?
	How you might have more fun with like a slut or someone?
	I mean, the sex.
	Does she suck dick better?
	I suppose.
	Sure.
	But maybe your mental thing is like, she only sucked my dick, so it feels good.
	Okay, let me try to put it in this way.
	Let me put it in this way.
	Like, let's say there's a guy who you think is fucking awesome.
	You're super attracted to him.
	He's really attractive.
	He's really good looking.
	He's all these things, right?
	But like, but he's not, his head game sucks.
	Or you could hook up with a fucking troll cave, but his fucking head game's the best.
	Who are you going to still want to hook up with?
	Those guys who go on to marry the virgins and little innocents of the world, they come to my work and cheat on their wives.
	So that's a strip.
	That's all I have to say.
	That's a good point, too.
	How do you know?
	I mean, they're all married.
	What do you mean?
	They might be married, but maybe they married a 3FO.
	I'm making assumptions.
	I don't know.
	Well, she's making assumptions.
	Okay, so, but to answer your question, like, you have a guy who gives, like you said, it's just another thing.
	Okay, you want to get some really good head?
	gonna go over here you wanna the mental thing like I felt my bad I feel like it's the same thing with the women.
	Like, you want to, you want some really good head.
	Are you going to go find a virgin to give you really good head?
	No, you'd probably go find somebody who has.
	All right, I'm looking for someone who.
	Okay, but you just said, like, he gives really good head and then he's really smart, but he doesn't give really good head.
	So it's the same thing.
	Like, you would probably, like you said, like, I would never give you the girlfriend title, but sure, I would let you give me head.
	Right?
	Honestly, like.
	Wait, so what's your question?
	I'm saying, like, how you just said, like, we're explaining, like, you can, you would take the virgin, right?
	I'm sorry.
	You would take the virgin and then you explained, like, you have a super smart guy, everything you guys have in common.
	Okay, but your guys' sex life is not good.
	And then you have this other guy who's probably like, whatever, you want to call him a bum, but his sex life is really good.
	Okay, maybe that a girl would choose to keep hooking up with him because he's fulfilling her sex life, but no, you would not get the boyfriend title.
	Just like you said, no, you would not get the girlfriend title.
	Although you are very good at having sex, I would not make you my girlfriend.
	Yeah, because as far when it comes to long-term commitments, when it comes to marriage, we look like you have to bring more than sex to the table.
	So, yeah.
	So, like you said, like we can hook up, but you're not going to be my girlfriend.
	Like, we don't, we, we don't want to be put in a position where if you've just hooked up with a ton of dudes and like all these dudes are fucking clowning on us, oh, that's your girl.
	Yeah, she fucking ran through.
	We don't want that.
	I'm not saying, like, a lot of dudes, it's if you're a vert, I mean, look, gone are the days that most women are virgins, right?
	But, like, having a low body count, emphasizing long-term commitment, not being promiscuous.
	Like, these are things that men care about.
	Low body count, not being promiscuous.
	Yeah.
	But you would still hook up with somebody who has a high body count.
	Would I still hook up with someone with a high body count?
	So when you say that, are we talking about you or are we just talking about men in general?
	I'd say men in general will still hook up with someone with a high body count.
	We'll still maybe keep them around.
	You'll never get commitment from that.
	You probably won't get commitment from that guy.
	He's not going to commit to you.
	You won't be his girlfriend.
	But I think like three of us at the table said that we were in long-term relationships with guys that we fucked on the first date.
	You can sleep with someone relatively quickly and have a low body count and not be promiscuous.
	I agree.
	what is that like in the chat it's saying like um a man will only commit if you're a virgin and or low body count or low body count and And if anyone says, like, if you do this, I'm not going to respect you.
	Or why am I going to go this?
	If your action is based off someone else's action, like, let's say if, like, I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought.
	We don't even want to be wifed up.
	It's like, we don't care.
	We're going to fuck, and that's it.
	I mean, that's fine if you don't.
	And along will come a spider who will wife up the hoe.
	A spider?
	Yeah.
	The fuck?
	Okay, so you said that there were a couple girls here at the table that they hooked up relatively quickly and had long-term relationships.
	I think we already agreed on that, though.
	I think you can like some guys are going to judge it yes if you hook up quick, but most guys, sorry, I shouldn't say most guys, but there are guys out there that realize like just because a girl hooks up relatively quickly, relatively soon for a second or third date, doesn't mean that she's a hoe.
	It doesn't mean that she's not worthy of commitment.
	I don't know.
	I think it's like not that big of a deal.
	I think we should all just fuck and be happy.
	Oh my God, Nicolette.
	All right, so who here thinks, just we'll go around the table really quick, should body count matter?
	No.
	No, take that, Dick.
	No.
	I think it's more of like a personal preference.
	It doesn't have to be very generalized.
	I mean, I can understand that guys want like a lower body count.
	And like personally, I would like I wouldn't care.
	I know some female friends who are like, you know, if he has a lower body count, that'd be like reassuring.
	So kind of like in the middle.
	I would say no, it doesn't matter.
	Okay.
	So did you say no?
	It shouldn't matter?
	What was your answer?
	Did you say no?
	No, it should not matter.
	Okay.
	So if it shouldn't matter, what's your body count?
	Why?
	You just said it shouldn't matter, so what's your body count?
	I mean, that's like private information.
	Something I would give somebody to I that I would have sex with.
	Into the mic.
	I would give that to somebody that I want to have sex with, but I do not want to have sex with any of these people.
	I think that's kind of private information.
	But if it doesn't matter, why say it?
	But if it shouldn't matter, if body count doesn't matter, if it's not a big deal, then shh.
	I'm talking like if I'm looking at somebody that I might want to be in a relationship with, I'm not going to ask them, what's your body count?
	Because to me, that doesn't matter.
	Right, but then shouldn't you feel comfortable just admitting what your body count is if it doesn't?
	If it doesn't matter, then you wouldn't be worried about anyone judging you for your body count, right?
	You were talking about in relationships, like, but I care if somebody had a high body count for like somebody I would be interested in.
	That's what I'm saying doesn't matter.
	Yeah, I agree, because to me, my body count matters to me.
	But if I'm going to date someone, I wouldn't look at him going, what's your body count?
	But when I go around with people, I think about it.
	Do you think it's wrong for men to care about a woman's body count?
	I think it's personal preference.
	Okay.
	Gabby.
	What's the question?
	Which question am I answering?
	Do you think it's wrong for men to care about a woman's body count?
	No, it's all personal.
	No, personal preference.
	Okay.
	Nicolette?
	Yeah, it's their own preference.
	Anything that's stupid to care?
	I think it's stupid to care as well.
	It's stupid to care.
	Okay, so we'll start over here.
	If body count shouldn't matter, if it's stupid to care, what's your body count?
	I'd have to count my list.
	What's your list?
	You have a list?
	I do have a list.
	You've written it down?
	I've typed it down.
	You've typed it down?
	Do you take notes on what was good, what was not good?
	Would I hook up with them again or not with them again?
	Sounds okay.
	So what's the number?
	Like, if you had to ballpark it, if you had to give a range.
	Yeah, I don't really care, but I can see that they care, so I don't really feel like I should.
	Don't.
	Don't worry about chat.
	Don't worry about chat.
	Let's just say it's in the double digits.
	Okay, so 10 to 99.
	That's helpful.
	Nicolette, what's your body count?
	I don't know.
	I don't keep track.
	I think that's dumb.
	But it's about to go up because I'm about to start filming boy girl content.
	So watch out for that.
	That was a good answer.
	Thanks.
	What's your body count?
	I wouldn't tell y'all.
	Do you want to give a range?
	It's in the single digits.
	Okay.
	Seven.
	All right.
	Some honesty here.
	I can give a range, like she said.
	What's the range?
	All right, the double digits.
	That's helpful.
	It's in the double digits, okay.
	What's your body count?
	I don't share that.
	Well, I think body count matters, so of course I'm not going to share that.
	So it's high.
	I can either confirm or deny any of these.
	But I mean, it's just like, yo, it's just like, you guys just went on about how body count shouldn't matter, but you're not even down to share what your body count is.
	So clearly body count matters.
	I said it matters to me like I hold myself to like a but like if I met somebody I wouldn't be like oh what's your body count Oh, that's your body count.
	Okay, I can't.
	You know?
	But me personally, I would say the number to me matters.
	I wouldn't have your body count or your partner's body count.
	My body count.
	I wouldn't want a high body count for myself, but that's just me.
	Like, everyone else could feel differently.
	Some girl, like, Nicholas, like, I don't even count because she really doesn't care.
	She doesn't care.
	So why count?
	I care, so I do count.
	And I try to pick and choose who I want to have sex with.
	I would say, like, I don't kiss until, so I'm not going to, like, display my private life, like, out there like that.
	But the reason why I keep a list is so I know what to do better in bed and what worked and what didn't.
	Okay.
	You keep a list?
	I'm curious.
	Like, let's say you were dating someone, right?
	And it was serious.
	And they found your list.
	Like, do you think they would feel a certain type of way about that?
	Yeah, and that would be their job to let me know that felt uncomfortable by it.
	And like, we'd work out however it needed to work out.
	If he didn't feel comfortable by it and he wanted to break up, like, I would respect that.
	That's his personal preference.
	And so what kind of things do you write down?
	do you write down like their size do you write down you don't Not things like that.
	It was just more how the experience was personally.
	Do you write it?
	Do you write it down immediately after the, like, maybe not immediately after, but do you write it down after the first time you have sex with someone new?
	Not like right after.
	I'd like wait until I'm like in a private setting.
	Well, yeah, but like, is it after the first time that you have sex with someone?
	Okay.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	I feel like if a guy saw that, he'd feel like you're comparing him to previous partners.
	That is a respectable concern.
	I could see how that could be brought up.
	Hashtag all labia matter, by the way.
	All labia matter.
	Okay, so we were going around the table.
	if you had something dating related that you wanted to get off your chest.
	You two went, I wanted to bring it back to, maybe we'll come back to that later.
	Gabby, anything dating related that you want to get off your chest?
	Anything that bothers you with dating?
	Honestly, I haven't been dating.
	Well, yeah, you have a boyfriend, so.
	Because I have a boyfriend, so like I don't personally myself don't have one.
	Okay, that's fine.
	We can skip.
	Yeah, that's my answer.
	Anything dating related you want to get off your chest?
	Mine is pretty much already covered and it was not like making your intentions clear.
	Not making your intentions clear.
	Okay.
	So can you go into that a bit more?
	Like what's an example that happened recently or I don't know.
	A guy not making his intentions clear.
	Somebody who wants like they want to date.
	They want to take you on multiple dates.
	They want to get to know you.
	And then next thing you know, they're like, oh, I don't want a relationship.
	To me, that's kind of like their intentions are not very clear.
	Like somebody should say from the bat what they're looking for.
	If their intentions, like, okay, I want to date you to get to know you, but I don't want to be in a relationship with you.
	That should be something, or not with you, but in a relationship in general, then I feel like that's something that should be stated like from the beginning.
	I mean, but don't people have the right at any given point to choose to not continue being with someone?
	No, I'm not going to say like, I don't want to be in a relationship with you, because that's different.
	But if they're like, I don't want to be in a relationship in general, then that's like what I'm referring to.
	Because their actions would make you believe something else.
	And they're like, oh, I don't want to be in a relationship at all.
	Like, I just feel like intentions should be set and should be clear from the beginning.
	Okay, what are you looking for?
	That's a hard one.
	I guess it just depends on the person.
	I mean, you just said intentions should be clear from the beginning.
	Well, I'm telling you it depends on the person.
	Okay, but so couldn't you say that?
	I would set the intentions clear just depending on the person.
	Okay, but I mean, couldn't you say that part of the dating process is getting to know someone and feeling it out?
	What I'm referring to is somebody who doesn't want to be in a relationship at all.
	But like, let's talk about situationships, right?
	Yeah.
	So these people are like, I don't want to be in a relationship, but I want everything that comes with the relationship.
	I just don't want to be committed to you.
	I don't want to be loyal to you.
	Like, that's just mixed up.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Like, why do you want things that entail a relationship if you don't want a relationship?
	What are some of those things?
	Like, dating, or they'll be like, oh, don't see anybody else.
	Like, I want to just solely see you, but I don't want a relationship, like, but don't do it, like, don't fuck around with any other people.
	Don't date other people, but I just want to see you, but I don't want to be in a relationship.
	Like, these are real situations that happen with people.
	That sounds like they have a personality disorder.
	What the fuck?
	Situationships.
	Y'all never heard of a situationship.
	Have y'all ended up not had an experience similar to that?
	No, or they're like, don't sleep with anybody.
	That's weird.
	Well, it's happened.
	No, a guy has never told you not to sleep with even a boyfriend.
	Oh, well, boyfriend, yeah.
	But like, she's saying if you're not dating them and they want to do everything together and say they tell you like, don't sleep with anyone, but like, we're not together.
	That's what she's saying.
	That's weird.
	No one's ever done that to me.
	Okay.
	And if they did, I'd run.
	I'd be like, what?
	You're crazy.
	Okay.
	So we skipped over you initially because you're trying to come up with something as far as dating related you wanted to get off your chest, something maybe a dating frustration.
	Is there anything that came up for you?
	Yeah, I have so many, so it was hard to pick one.
	Sure.
	But the main one is like mental health.
	Like if someone isn't basically taking care of themselves, if they're not like wanting to self-improve, then that's a red flag for me.
	That's not something that I would be interested in pursuing.
	If they don't want to self-improve.
	That's a good one.
	I think that's pretty good.
	But not therapy.
	Because if they go to therapy, that's not.
	No therapy.
	No therapy.
	According to Brian.
	According to Brian.
	Mental health has been like a big part of my life.
	I've worked in mental health.
	I've experienced mental health.
	So if someone's not open-minded or at least trying to learn about themselves in that aspect, because it's a red flag.
	Also, just to touch really briefly back on the therapy thing.
	And guys in the chat, by the way, Ryan, thank you for becoming a member, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys in the chat, I don't know if you guys have seen this on dating apps, but I frequently see it, at least on Hinge, where there's the prompts.
	There's a prompt that says something like, a green flag I look for is you're in therapy.
	So the prompt is a green flag you're looking for and then people can fill it out.
	And a lot of girls will say something like, if you're in therapy.
	And for some reason, to me, that just seems condescending in a way.
	In that if you're not in therapy, then what's almost what's wrong with you for not being in therapy?
	And it's kind of condescending in the sense of you as men need to work on yourselves because there is something innately wrong with men and you need to address your issues in therapy.
	And I just, I don't know.
	To me, that's one of the other reasons I've taken issue with like, it just seems very condescending to like tell someone that they need therapy first.
	I don't know.
	And it's also very classist because therapy is very expensive.
	And to say, I wouldn't date someone because they're like, it's a green flag if they're, I don't know, just to me seems very like disregarding people that might not be able to afford therapy.
	Well, if you're on Medi-Cal and have low income, you can, it's, you can get therapy.
	You just have to tell your doctor, admit, like, hey, I've been feeling anxious, I've been feeling depressed, and they'll say that it's a requirement for you.
	It's a need.
	Is therapy, does insurance cover therapy?
	I don't know.
	Yes, it does.
	It does.
	My insurance does.
	I don't know.
	I hear people spending money on therapy.
	I think it has to be recommended by your doctor.
	So if you let your primary provider know, then they'll say that you need it.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	But okay, so fair enough.
	We have a question here from Stiffler.
	Ask the ladies to rate themselves on a scale of one to ten.
	We can do that.
	Nicolette, you go first.
	Zanda.
	Zendaya?
	What did you just say?
	I said a 10.
	Oh, I thought you said Zendaya.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'd say I'm a 10.
	10.
	What would you rate yourself, Brian?
	Fucking.
	Send the asteroid.
	Send the asteroid.
	Y'all are.
	Come on.
	Tens.
	What would you rate yourself, Brian?
	6, 6.5 on a good day.
	Sorry, 6.9 on a good day.
	Come on, don't you guys think it's a bit hubris, like delusional to rate yourself as a 10?
	So y'all are perfect?
	Not perfect.
	Yep, perfect.
	Yeah, bruv, come on.
	So, okay.
	If you guys are tens, then there's no girl that's better looking than you.
	I love all women.
	Every girl is a 10.
	I don't know.
	Every woman's a 10?
	Is every guy a 10?
	No, absolutely not.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	If every woman's a 10, but not every guy's a 10.
	It's just because I love women.
	Oh, you love women and you hate men?
	I never said that.
	I'm saying I love women.
	You love women.
	Okay, so every woman's a 10.
	They're all gorgeous.
	But aren't you bi?
	I am.
	Right?
	So, but, like, so you're attracted to women, so you make no discernments in terms.
	Like, you don't look at one girl and another girl, and you can't make a discernment in terms of, hey, this girl's more physically attractive than the other.
	I don't really base it off of physical attraction.
	Like, when I'm talking about a 10, I'm basing it on a lot of other aspects as well.
	Okay, I'm.
	I should clarify: this question is physical appearance.
	On a scale, here, we can go around to 10.
	Sorry, we can go around again, but on a scale of one to 10, looks-wise, what do you rate yourself?
	Nicolette?
	10.
	10.
	I would say 10, yeah.
	Still a 10.
	No?
	Bro, okay, I'm going to be honest.
	We all have our own definitions of beauty, right?
	I'm going to be honest.
	I'm not going to rate you guys, but none of you are a 10.
	You just rated us.
	No, I'm not going to give you your rankings, but none of you are 10s.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, we did.
	Just ask us what our opinion was.
	You wouldn't be a 10 in my book either.
	That's totally fine.
	I don't think I'm a 10.
	Okay.
	But, like, come on.
	Come on, guys.
	Don't you think it's a bit of a damage?
	But like, what do you want us to get up here and be like, oh, like, I think I'm a.
	Like, you said six.
	Like, I. Six, six point nine on a good day.
	Yeah, like, that's cool for you to say.
	Okay.
	I think I'm a 10, but I know I'm not perfect.
	It's like, just because I say I find myself attractive, like, I can look at myself in the mirror and be like, damn, she's fine, doesn't mean that, like, I'm opposed to someone else having not the same opinion as me.
	Like, people can think however they want or feel about me.
	But okay, so if you rank your physical attractiveness as a 10, then one, like, how do you self-improve?
	And two, like, don't you think that's going to impact if you think you're a 10, then surely you deserve a guy who's a 10, right?
	If you're a 10, don't you deserve a guy who's a 10?
	Do you deserve a girl who's a six?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I think you should pair up with people that are on your level.
	Stay in your lane.
	I mean, here's the, here's, yes.
	All the uglies together.
	If you're an average man, you should get with an average woman.
	If you're an average woman, you should get with an average man.
	But you've seen an average man with a really good-looking woman, and you've probably seen a really good-looking woman with the— I mean, sorry, you've seen a really good-looking man with the average-looking woman.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	So, like, how did they end up together?
	There's other factors at play.
	For example, a guy can bring more to the table than just his looks.
	He could bring personality, charisma, if he's got status, if he's got money.
	I mean, Drake, for example, is not ugly, but he's not like exceptionally handsome male model.
	In your opinion.
	He's not.
	Okay.
	Drake is not a male model.
	I wouldn't say he's ugly, but looks-wise, I don't know.
	He's maybe put him at a seven or something.
	He has no shortage.
	He has, because of his status, because of his wealth, he probably has no shortage of exceptionally attractive women.
	But he's bringing something else to the table than just his looks.
	Well, when you asked us to raid us, you were talking about only physical looks.
	Yeah, that's right.
	So, you know, like, just like you said and I said earlier, you factor in different things when you're giving somebody like, oh, this is our overall rate.
	You're factoring in different things.
	That's what you just said.
	Like, somebody who isn't as attractive, it can make them more attractive depending on what they bring to the table.
	It can't make them necessarily more physically attractive.
	I know, but I was just pointing out how you were talking about physical attraction, but then you start bringing up other things that come.
	No, but I asked you just, I revised it.
	I asked you just your rating on a scale of one to ten.
	Yeah, but what she was saying, average men with a beautiful woman, vice versa.
	Yeah.
	You're saying like things that bring to the table.
	It happens, but generally speaking, most people are pairing off with people of an equivalent appearance.
	I disagree.
	Oh, I see a lot of guys.
	I disagree.
	Yeah, that are just.
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't say a lot of people stay in the same.
	Well, that's okay, so that's getting a bit away from the 10 thing.
	If you think you're a 10, then you surely must be deserving of a guy who is a 10.
	Yeah, I'm done dating ugly guys.
	If you're ugly, stay away.
	Oh, my God.
	Fucking Nicolette with the comedic relief over here.
	So can any of you think of a guy who you think is a 10?
	Like maybe someone notable that we can think of, like a celebrity or.
	Who's a 10?
	Ricky Johnson.
	I have no fucking idea who that is.
	Look him up, guys.
	Michael B. Jordan.
	Okay.
	Michael B. Jordan.
	That's a good one.
	Who's a 10?
	Anybody?
	Paul Walker.
	Paul Walker?
	Okay.
	Paul Walker.
	Everyone here familiar with Paul Walker?
	Rest in peace.
	R.I.P. is in the chat for Paul Walker.
	Everyone, do you guys know Paul Walker?
	Paul Walker?
	Fast and Furious.
	Heard of him.
	I don't know what he looks like.
	Oh, my God.
	He was in best.
	All right.
	He's an exceptionally attractive guy.
	Can you pull it up, Eric?
	Do you want Google a photo of Paul Walker?
	just so chat uh go the images tab Thanks.
	All right, pretty handsome dude.
	Okay, would you guys say, would you rank Paul Walker?
	What would you rank him?
	He's dead.
	Should we be doing this?
	Is it too soon?
	Too soon?
	I don't want to get canceled.
	Chat, too soon?
	It's fine.
	He's a 10.
	Agreed.
	10?
	10?
	Agreed.
	Okay.
	He's a 10.
	Well, he's not alive anymore.
	Let's say when he wasn't.
	Was a 10.
	When he was still alive, right?
	Or we can even just say a guy who looks like that, who's alive, whatever.
	Why did we have to pick a dead dude?
	Fuck.
	We should choose Chad Michael Marie.
	I don't know.
	No, Ryan Reynolds.
	Ryan Reynolds.
	Sure, whatever.
	Okay.
	If all of you guys are 10s, are you guys going to land, what's his name?
	The Paul Walker.
	You guys think you can land Paul Walker?
	Get rid of the status, get rid of the money.
	Just imagine he's a normal dude.
	You guys landing him?
	Me personally, I feel like I could get Paul Walker.
	You could get with Paul Walker.
	Or see someone who looks like Paul Walker.
	Definitely.
	Yeah.
	I feel like just because they're a 10 doesn't mean I'm going to get with them.
	Or just because I'm a 10 doesn't mean they're going to get with me.
	Because when you're like a 10 and you're like hot, you know you're hot.
	So you have, you know, bigger pickings to choose from.
	You know what I mean?
	Sort of.
	Wait, Eric, can you just go?
	Can you go to my Instagram and go to the Instagram profile and then go to the saved tab?
	I don't think I have it up pre-pulled up.
	It's a save tab.
	Guys, get your last-minute super chats in.
	We're going to wrap up in about 10 minutes or so.
	Get your last-minute super chats in.
	Let me know when you're in the save tab.
	Click on the all posts, Eric.
	Do you have it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can switch.
	Okay, here are some tens.
	Scroll.
	Maybe not tens.
	Let's say nines, eights, nines, tens.
	You can scroll down a little slow.
	Keep going, just keep going.
	A tie.
	No, I was going to say you have a tie.
	Yeah, whoever made this likes Asian girls.
	There's white girls.
	What are you talking about?
	Look at all these white girls.
	Okay, yeah, there's a disproportionate amount of Asian women.
	I'll give you that.
	It was Eric.
	Eric did it.
	Keep scrolling.
	Keep going down.
	Look, there's a white girl.
	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	That's a little bit.
	Okay.
	Those are some 8s, 9s, and 10s.
	That's your opinion, though.
	What?
	Everybody has a different type.
	Everybody has something different that they like.
	Because you could probably maybe show that to another guy and he not like any of those girls on those photos.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Wait, they're like a bunch of bikini photos instead.
	Like, you probably have like three or four self-defense.
	Come on.
	Like, I'm sure you would.
	And it's like comparing peaches and apples.
	Like, some people like peaches.
	Some people don't like peaches.
	It's a still.
	I think peaches overwhelmingly are better than apples.
	Guys, send the asteroid.
	Send the asteroid.
	Okay, look.
	I guess here's my qualm with this.
	And this is kind of why I'm getting into this.
	If you think you're a 10, if you think your looks are a 10, and this is what's playing out on dating apps right now, you have a potentially false, elevated sense of self, and you have a false self-assessment or an erroneous self-assessment of where you stand in the dating marketplace.
	So if you think you're a 10, when you go on the dating apps, when you're selecting who you're going to date, and like I said, we see this playing out on the dating apps.
	80% of women are chasing after the top 10% of guys.
	And is that because women think they're all tens?
	It's probably based on their own attraction to others.
	But if 80%, okay.
	It's because guys will fuck anything.
	We talked about this already.
	You guys will fucking ugly.
	But okay, what is happening on the dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing after the top 10% of men.
	So how's that gonna pair?
	How are people gonna if women are chasing after the top 10% of men those those 10% of men are never gonna commit if if look if you just want to but get passed around by all the hot dudes that's fine, but if you want commitment then You're not you're not gonna be able to secure commitment from the men you're chasing well, I don't think you should be getting on a dating app looking for commitment.
	Yeah But what's playing out?
	Okay You might say that but the stats are most people are meeting on dating apps like how people are getting into relationships.
	It's through dating apps.
	It's online.
	That's the majority now.
	Most people are meeting online.
	So basically you're saying like what about the ugly guys?
	Like they're for you.
	Who they need love too?
	Like what are you getting at?
	They're not even necessarily ugly.
	I'm saying women are women.
	Okay, here's the thing.
	Here's what's going on.
	Women are able to secure sex from men that are more attractive than them.
	Those men will never commit to them.
	But who says that we want to be committed to?
	Do you think most women just want to be getting ran through?
	Probably not.
	I think it probably makes sense.
	I think most women, like probably, if you ask most women, they'd much, instead of hooking up with a new guy, two new guys every week, they'd probably much prefer having a relationship with someone that actually cares about them and loves them.
	Maybe that's just me.
	I don't know.
	I wonder what that looks like.
	Wait, so like, what are you saying?
	Like, what are you saying?
	I'm saying if you have an elevated sense of your physical attractiveness, you're going to feel encouraged to be chasing after very attractive men.
	The thing is, is if you can't accurately assess, here's how attractive I actually am, you're going to keep chasing after men that they're going to have an accurate assessment of what you look like.
	And they're going to say, I'll hook up with this girl.
	I'm never going to commit to her.
	I'll keep her along and keep fucking her.
	I'll never give her a commitment.
	So what I'm saying is, is that you- So you will have better luck if you take your rating down, is what you're saying?
	Or just are more aware of your physical appearance?
	You will have better luck at getting a boyfriend?
	If that's what you want, yeah, you have to.
	If you want a boyfriend, you have to drop your standard.
	I'm not even sure it's dropping.
	I mean, if your standards are already excessively...
	You have to settle to be in a relationship.
	You have to settle for something less.
	I don't think it's settling, though, because what's going on is you have average women that don't want to date average men.
	And that's okay.
	But then you have average women who do want to date average men, and you're an average man who wants to date an average woman.
	Everyone's standard and everyone's version of a 10 is so different.
	Like, I'm sure we can all agree on some people that we all find attractive, but then, like, Nicolette could find someone attractive that I don't.
	Or Bella could.
	You know what I'm trying to say?
	Like, also, if you were a six, 6.5?
	6.9 on a good day.
	6.9 on a good day.
	If you're not the top 10%, as you say, then how are you still getting dates?
	What do you mean?
	Like, if you think that women are only seeking the top 10%, even average women, you've gone on dates from dating sites.
	I have, yeah.
	So, how have you gotten dates if you're not in the top 10%?
	Well, we're speaking strictly looks.
	And like I said, men can bring more to the table than just their physical appearance.
	But when you're on a dating site, a picture is the first thing you see.
	You go off the physical attraction.
	Yes, that's true.
	So even though you're still a 6.5, 6.9 on a good date to you, like that's, and like, that's the picture you put out there.
	So 80% of women are chasing after the top 10% of men.
	I would say my match rate on dating apps is if I like or swipe whatever, whatever it is, if I like a girl, let's say I like 10 girls, I'm going to get one or two matches.
	So maybe you're not liking maybe you're liking the top 10% of the women.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, I don't get what your point is right now.
	Well, I'm responding to that.
	I'm still going on dating.
	So, like, your point is basically.
	I mean, I can ask you guys this question.
	So, of the men that you see on dating apps, like, what percentage of men would you say you find attractive on dating apps?
	If you had to give it a percentage, like, 0.01%.
	All right, Nicolette.
	Well, you're a unicorn.
	Go ahead.
	what was the question so on dating apps what percentage of men would you say you find attractive on dating apps Like, how many?
	What percentage of men do you find attractive on dating apps?
	I want to do a two-part question.
	On dating apps, those of you who have been on dating apps, I know you haven't.
	What percentage of men do you say you find attractive?
	In other words, what percentage of men do you swipe yes on?
	And then, in real life, of the men you see day to day, what percentage of them would you say you find attractive?
	They don't have to be a male model, but binary, yes or no.
	I'd probably go for like eight or tens.
	Like, what eight or ten percentage percentage?
	Like, how many do I actually like entertain attractive?
	Do you find attractive on dating apps and then in person on dating apps?
	Probably, like, the percentage is like 50-50.
	And then in person, I don't, I don't, I don't know.
	If you're at a bar or a club, what percentage of the guys in there would you say you find attractive?
	I find like guys attractive, but I don't, like, I kind of like flip off everyone at the club because I don't, I don't, um, like entertaining like guys that get kind of like too touchy-feely in the club, so I wouldn't really know how to compare that.
	Okay, Nicolette?
	Yeah, I think everyone's like ugly.
	It's like, okay, no, it's like I'm swiping left a lot.
	Okay, what about you?
	I know you're not on dating apps, so you, but what about in person?
	Like, walking into like a restaurant or just what do you live in Isla Vista?
	No, I live in Santa Barbara, but I went to Isla Vista.
	Okay, so like walking into a party, so like, yeah, Isla Vista, that's gonna be people within your age cohort because you're remind me 21 or I'm 19.
	19, excuse me.
	You're 19, so it's your age cohort.
	Of the men that you see going to, if you're walking around IV, what percentage of them would you say, I find him attractive?
	In Isla Vista, I would say I find maybe 5 to 10% of the guys attractive.
	Okay.
	I'd agree.
	Have you been on dating apps at all?
	For your boyfriend.
	Okay.
	I used to.
	Percentage on dating apps that you find attractive.
	I wouldn't say that's accurate for me, though, because I wouldn't really go on there to match with people.
	Just kind of like see.
	I would literally swipe left on everyone just because I was curious who's in the area.
	But yeah, like Bella and I have been to a lot of parties together.
	Like we're in the same friend group.
	So like let's just keep it to our age range and like the parties we go to.
	I'd say probably five to ten percent.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would probably say like 20% honestly.
	20%?
	Yeah.
	On dating apps for both?
	20%?
	Okay.
	So 20%.
	Okay.
	I'll give you mine.
	So, I mean, IV is kind of.
	I'd say honestly in IV, I'm not, I don't live in IV, but say like honestly, 80-90% of the girls that are walking by, I'm like, she's hot.
	She's attractive.
	Day-to-day, like if I'm fucking going to Trader Joe's or something, probably 70%.
	60%.
	Well, there's some like old ladies in there, so I don't know.
	Dating apps, I'd say 80% of the women, 70-80% of the women on dating apps, I'd say are physically attractive.
	So it's just different.
	Let me do some super chats.
	Guys, get your last-minute super chats in.
	We're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	All right, we have, let's see, we've got Pollux 9967.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Jim from Bama.
	Tithe for the show, bro.
	Send the asteroid.
	I got you, dude.
	Hold on.
	Boom.
	Asteroid sent.
	Appreciate the support, man.
	Thank you.
	Ryan, we shouted you out.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let me get rid of the asteroid.
	Okay.
	Ryan, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Azul69, good to see you again.
	Where's my queen, Tara?
	Did I say right?
	Tara, Tara.
	Tara, I always butcher it.
	I miss her.
	Is it possible to send her flowers so that she comes back on?
	Yo, she was supposed to be on tonight, but she flaked.
	So yeah, by the way, this is a new record.
	We had eight flakes for today.
	We had eight flakes.
	So I want to apologize.
	Yeah, eight flakes.
	New record.
	I think we need to keep a tracker.
	Yo, we got Mike Davis here.
	Mike, I'm telling you, dude, I was getting ready to take down.
	I was getting ready to take it down, dude.
	We were going to do a rain dance to summon you.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Good to see you back, man.
	Mike Davis is back just checking in, and Brian growing a pair, telling in their face, throw this pack as a group special in front of any race of men, and they're barely scratching a six.
	Okay.
	Do you guys want to respond to Mike Davis?
	He's shooting shots.
	I've dated a wide range of race of men, I guess.
	I've never been shot down, so.
	You've never been shot down?
	No.
	Actually, really quick on this, just going around the table, and we'll let you roast Mike Davis back a little bit more.
	Have you ever been – so you've never been rejected.
	Into the mic.
	No, no.
	Never been rejected.
	From like, let's, like, more specifically from the people that I was interested in and that were also like actually, yeah, from all the people I have found like attractive or have been interested in and like have initiated something like no.
	You've never been rejected?
	No.
	What about you?
	Yeah, like anyone who I've tried to pursue, I've been successful with.
	What about you?
	I would say for the most part, I have been successful, but I have been rejected.
	Nicolette?
	No, I haven't Tilt the microphone down towards you a bit.
	We heard it, though.
	I have been rejected before.
	You have?
	Okay.
	I have.
	Okay, but we got three here.
	Never been rejected.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do you think that's the case for most men?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right, we got Mike Davis here.
	Oh, wait.
	Do you guys want to talk some shit?
	Look, that's Mike Davis right there.
	He's saying you guys are barely scratching sixes.
	So you guys, I mean, he's taken, I didn't even say that.
	I just said you guys weren't tense.
	Yeah, he got the two of us.
	Eric, can you?
	Yeah, this is actually a photo of him at his Burger King establishment.
	His glasses are giving Jeffrey Dahmer.
	Wow.
	I mean, Eric, can you zoom in on this one?
	Something tells me he doesn't even like men.
	I mean, doesn't like women.
	Yeah, get close.
	Get real.
	Yeah, keep.
	Yeah.
	Keep even closer.
	Oh, use the things at the bottom to scoot it over.
	Yeah.
	Jeffrey Dahmer?
	Yeah, just get super zoomed in.
	There we go.
	Keep going.
	Yeah, let's see that face.
	Keep going.
	Just even more.
	Keep going.
	Okay, that's, yeah, scroll it over.
	There we go.
	Keep going.
	Yeah, that guy definitely gets late.
	Whoa.
	I will not have, I will not stand for someone disrespecting Mike Davis.
	How dare you?
	How dare you, Nicolette?
	Let me find out.
	You and Mike Davies, Brian.
	Listen.
	Listen, Mike Davis, there's already something going on.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Mike Davis, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Mike Davis here.
	Thank you for the $10 Super Chat, man.
	Man, these girls all look like they're on antidepressants.
	Ain't no way they believe their own bullshit.
	Your answer.
	Your response.
	LexaPro?
	Anybody?
	I'm not.
	SSRIs?
	Hello?
	None for me.
	Nicolette, what you got?
	Should we reveal that?
	No, I'm not, but I feel like, why are you asking that?
	That's like HIPAA.
	Whoa, HIPAA.
	I mean, I'm not a doctor, so I feel like, you know.
	Okay, Mike Davis.
	Thank you, man.
	Much appreciated.
	Eric, can you pull up the Twitch really quick?
	Let's shout them out.
	Shout out the Twitch boys real quick.
	Yo, guys, really quick, open up a Twitch tab.
	Go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Let me shout these guys out.
	Captain Dance, thank you for the follow.
	Dre, thank you for the follow.
	Hakeem, thank you for the follow.
	Deathmaster69, thank you for the follow.
	Alexi, thank you for the follow.
	Guys, if you have a Twitch Prime, drop us a Twitch Prime.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you'd link it to your Twitch.
	It takes two minutes.
	Free, quick, easy way to support the show every single month.
	Okay, so I want to give you guys final thoughts.
	Any final thoughts or questions before we wrap up?
	Anybody?
	If you've got a question, final thought, last opportunity here?
	If you like sluts, you should definitely go over to my OnlyFans and subscribe.
	Did you want to say something?
	Oh, I was looking at that comment.
	Which one?
	The Mike Davis one?
	Mike Davis, yeah.
	Okay, we're gonna pull that up here in just a sec.
	Sharky, if you want a fit check from Nicolette, I believe it's a $69 super chat.
	Or is there might even be one for hold on, let's see.
	By the way, Sharky, good to see you in the chat.
	I see you every week.
	Just giving you a little shout out.
	Oh, wait, we actually boosted the fit check shit.
	My bad.
	We'll honor a $69 super chat if it's done within the next 69 seconds.
	Okay, Eric, can you pull up the super chat from Mr. Mike Davis?
	All right.
	Mike Davis, thank you for the $10 super chat, man.
	This pack can say what they want.
	A king doesn't concern himself with the opinion of sheep.
	Isn't it cheap from Game of Thrones?
	Doesn't concern himself with the opinion of peasants.
	I would self-rate as a 4-6, but I don't need looks to get some.
	I got the bag.
	Coming from a negative 2.
	I make more money than you.
	Who makes more money?
	Me.
	You make more money than Mike Davis?
	I make more money than Mike Davis.
	How much do you?
	$25, $26 an hour.
	Oh, no.
	See, when you said, Eric, can you pull up the Burger King photo again?
	Now, you got to understand here.
	Unless Mike lives at Burger King and he's making hundreds of dollars.
	See, here's the thing, right?
	He is the proprietor of at least seven Burger Kings on the East Coast.
	So what you got to understand is he's that Whopper money.
	He's got that Whopper money.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So he's got to be.
	And this is what he spends his time, but his personality is trash.
	Ooh, his personality is trash.
	Well, if you don't respect women, like, yeah, you're.
	Oh, he respects.
	I think he respects women.
	He respects.
	He's paying $9.99 to.
	He respects women.
	Definitely respects.
	Nicolette, wait, you're telling me that you, be honest, be honest.
	Be honest, Nicolette.
	You don't think.
	You said 0.01% of men are attractive.
	Maybe like 1%.
	Okay.
	Last question here before we wrap up.
	Oh, wait, let me get this one.
	Oh, we'll grab it in a sec.
	Last question.
	Do you think dating?
	Well, I'll tell you what I think.
	I think when it comes to dating, getting laid, whatever, women kind of have that shit on recruit mode.
	You got that shit on easy mode.
	But do you think dating is easier for men or women?
	Women.
	Women.
	I don't know.
	You got some opinion, I'm sure.
	Is dating easier for men or women?
	Getting laid, how about women?
	Women.
	Women.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	All right, we got Mike Davis here.
	25 divided by 6 an hour, Elmeo.
	And this B thought that's a flex.
	You might as well find a street corner to beg on.
	Do you want to fire back at Mike Davis?
	I was just under the impression that you only worked at Burger King, but I can admit when I'm wrong.
	So go ahead.
	Have fun with your business.
	Yeah, Mike Davis.
	At least I'm not commenting on younger girls.
	Hook us up with some whoppers, Mike.
	Yeah, listen, Mike Davis.
	Did he cater you, Burger King, Brian?
	You know what?
	Tell you what.
	I'm going to ask him for some gift cards.
	I'm going to hook them up.
	Just hit me up after the show.
	Mike Davis, you got to send me some Burger King gift cards.
	Come on, dude.
	Send us through some Burger King gift cards.
	We need it.
	All right, guys, we're going to wrap there.
	Did I get all the soup chats, Eric?
	Am I missing anything?
	Oh, a zom.
	I got a shit.
	Azom, fuck.
	I don't know how I'm going to do it.
	It didn't come up organically.
	Oh, boy.
	Azam, I'm going to have.
	I'm sorry, Brev.
	I don't know if you're still in chat.
	I'm going to have to get it next time.
	I'm sorry it didn't come up organically.
	Actually, Eric, can you pull up Twitch real quick?
	Let me just give these last shout outs.
	Okay, do it.
	Okay, Dickhead, thank you for the follow.
	Creative Zero, thank you for the follow.
	White Bat, thank you for the zero.
	Cheer train, thank you for the follow.
	Can you scroll down just to add, Eric?
	B-Nag, thank you for the follow.
	Eris Bloom, thank you for the follow.
	And that'll do it for that.
	Anyways, guys, we're going to wrap up.
	Thursday, we have an all-OnlyFans panel coming on the show.
	It's like eight OnlyFans Girls.
	It's going to be a really good show.
	And then from, well, I'm going to make a big announcement on that show.
	That's Thursday, December 8th.
	So be sure to tune in, guys.
	Anyways, guys, thank you guys for tuning in.
	You could have been doing anything else, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	I want to thank everyone who superchatted, supports the show, watches the show, follow on Twitch, whatever it may be.
	Really appreciate the support.
	Big thank you to the panel for joining us.
	Really appreciate you guys coming.
	And thanks to our chat mod, Zach.
	Thank you to Candace.
	Thanks to Eric, the top producer.
	Thank you to the panel once again for coming on.
	Appreciate you guys.
	I was especially toxic tonight, so please don't hate me.
	And anyways, guys, we will be live again Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	All OnlyFans Girl panel.
	Sorry, Nicolette.
	And yeah, guys, we will see you.
	No.
	No, she's not.
	We will see you guys next time.
	Good night.
	Oh, Jason's going to be on the Jason.
	I don't know if you guys know Chris P. Kim in the chat.
	He's going to be on the Thursday show.
	So guys, be sure to tune in Thursday at 7 p.m. Pacific.
	Anyways, we'll see you next time.
	Good night, guys.

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