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Oct. 24, 2023 - Truth Podcast - Vivek Ramaswamy
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The Most Censored Man In The World | The TRUTH Podcast #42
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When they censor you and de-platform you, they can then steal your identity and misrepresent what you've said and done and then build a straw man.
And transferring the power themselves.
That's the new world order.
That's global.
It's actually the old world order.
It is, you're right.
It's really just the old world order in new world clothing.
Don't let anybody hold you back.
Amen.
Just do it.
Presidential candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy.
Vivek Ramaswamy, a Republican running for president.
We should not be apologetic to stand up and speak for the truth.
Let's talk truth.
And so, you know what?
It's...
That we've become a culture that wants to censor free speech and open debate.
And I think that part of the American way of life is we don't just embrace moderate ideals.
That is an extreme idea.
The idea that you get to speak your mind as long as I get to in return.
That's a wild idea.
For most of human history, it was done the other way.
And that's what makes America great.
That's what makes America itself.
And so if somebody tells me, don't listen to this person, my reaction is, you know what?
I'm going to listen to him.
I'm going to keep an open mind and hear what every person has to say because I'm a human being.
Each of us as Americans is a human being.
We can judge for ourselves what we believe the actual right way forward is for our country.
So with that said, I've been looking forward to this conversation for a long time.
I'm excited about it.
Alex Jones, it's good to see you, man.
Vivek, thanks for doing this because when they censor you and de-platform you, they can then steal your identity and misrepresent what you've said and done and then build a straw man.
Yeah.
And that's why they fight so hard.
99% of the things they say about me aren't true.
They never show a clip.
They just say, I've done these things I haven't done.
And it reminds me of them saying that Trump said after the thing that happened in Virginia, in Charlottesville, that he said Hispanics are horrible criminals, bad people.
He didn't say that.
He said they're wonderful, good people, but there are also a lot of bad people coming across the border.
They wouldn't show the clip.
They would just say he said that, but he had a big enough bully pulpit to override that, and so it doubled the number of Hispanics when he first got elected towards the end of his first term who understood that it was a lie, and they then embraced him because of that, but that was because he could show them the actual clip and show them that there'd been a lie.
I'm not as big as Trump.
I'm probably like 5% of the pull he's got, and so I... Have been successfully, in many ways, destroyed.
I mean, they built another Alex Jones that's not me, and that's why they say, don't ever interview Alex Jones, because they're going to hear something that probably most people are going to agree with.
Yeah, so it's interesting.
I think that, I mean, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the fact that, you know, somebody came up, I don't know if it was someone from your team or someone who's part of your, you know, one of your followers or something suggested it.
And I said, okay, well, several people are saying, suggest to talk to this guy.
Let's see if that's something we're open to.
And then the reaction that I get is, no, no, no, no, this is a guy.
You don't want to talk to it.
It's going to be politically toxic for you.
And my view is, no, no, no.
We're the United States of America.
So I have no idea if I'm going to agree with everything you're going to say or not.
Well, I mean, here's your comeback.
I'm curious about this.
Yeah.
Here's your comeback.
Lester Holt last week did a really important interview, or two weeks ago, with the Ayatollah Khomeini, the leader of Iran.
Now, that guy is praising the attacks on Israel.
It's terrible.
I think he's a bad guy.
Yeah, Khomeini's not a good guy.
It doesn't mean I want World War III with them either, and Hezbollah, who's got sleeper cells in America on our open border.
But that said, everybody doesn't attack Lester Holt interviewing the leader of Iran, the religious dictator.
Okay, so you see Hamas publishing videos of kidnapping Israelis, killing Israelis, dead bodies, whole houses shot up with dead families.
That's posted on Twitter.
That's okay.
I actually think that's, I mean, I guess free speech as long as it has an advisory on it.
The kids don't see it.
Okay, it's horrible.
First Amendment, I don't agree with it, but I understand it needs to be shown.
That's where I'm at, is free speech and open debate.
I haven't killed anybody.
I'm not storming Israeli towns and murdering people in mass or coming on powered hang gliders, slaughtering people.
But they don't want this to be heard because when I see your message, And I'm not kissing your ass, it's just true.
You are the most informed, I don't use this to attack him, it's just true, geopolitically, you name it, compared to anybody I've ever basically interviewed.
And Tucker Carlson's super smart.
And I would say he has more charisma, but he's a close second.
Your grasp, because I see the random questions you're asked, of just a wide spectrum of things is amazing.
And you're understanding that America, the idea of a free market competitive culture, is something the globalists can't have because they have a competing corporate...
Oligarchy or tyranny and cashless society social credit score they're setting up with the ESGs.
And the potential of America is so powerful because people aspire to that.
America has to be wiped out with political correctness and all the rest of it.
So that the whole world can be leveled down to one giant third world population that BlackRock and the megacorporations can exploit and control and, quote, control our behavior, as Larry Fink said.
So congratulations on the work you've done.
The number one candidate I support is Donald Trump.
If something happened to him, I would support you for president.
And I'm very, very impressed.
A lot of people say, well, five years ago his views were a little bit different.
Well, so were mine.
And so people say, well, he wasn't perfect in the past.
Well, I'm not perfect today.
We have to be ready as the world awakens the real political system to have converts to liberty and freedom in Americana.
And so the fact that you are a leading light, really promoting the truth is amazing.
And the few people that criticize you saying, well, he just showed up on the scene.
Well, that's what happens with innovation and ideas.
Of course, you didn't just show up on the scene, but exploded on the national scene.
And so I really appreciate your campaign.
I think it's the best thing out there.
When you watch these Republican debates, they're unwatchable except for you.
My listeners all agree.
The crew all agrees that why don't we just have you up there for two hours because there's nothing but talking points and canned garbage from the rest of them because I can tell you run your campaign.
All the rest of these people are told what to say and they're looking at polls and numbers and it's synthetic.
With you, it's real.
They're puppets and that's not even their fault.
Actually, I've realized at first I would think I'm running against these other candidates.
They're puppets of a broken super PAC puppet master system, and that's just the state of American politics today.
And my view is, you know, if you look at some of the stuff that I've written in my books, my first book, Woke Inc., even years ago, I agree with 90, still 99 percent of what I said, but I moved a little bit.
And that's good.
We're human beings.
That's why I'm having this conversation.
That's why people listen to contrary voices.
We're human beings, not partisan hacks.
Well, exactly.
We're supposed to respond to information and think about it and evolve our views.
That's what it means to be a thinking human being, at least to me.
And the globalists have come out in the open.
Yeah.
I mean, I was talking to Tucker Carlson just the other day.
I went and visited him in Maine.
And we did some hunting and stuff.
And he was like, man, I'm more radical than you now.
And we were sitting there talking because the world, it's out in the open.
The globalists have taken the mask off.
Yeah.
So I know you've been a pro-freedom of speech, liberty guy for a decade or more.
All I'm saying is...
What you say is dead on.
I mean, I sit there and I watch it and I go, gosh, I wish I could nail it.
And I'm not kissing your ass, it's true.
I appreciate it.
Nail it, nail it, nail it.
And regardless of what happens, we need people like you at the top of government that actually know the subjects and aren't just getting talking points from the donor class.
Yeah.
So let's just, since we're meeting for the first time, just a few minutes, I mean your audience is probably very well familiar with this, but in your own words, just hear it without, I didn't Google any of this beforehand, I don't want to be biased.
What's your journey to the views that you have now?
I mean, what gets you going in terms of your mission?
You're a clearly passionate guy, want to revive the essence of our founding ideals of the free exchange of ideas, not be controlled in a way that impedes the sovereignty of the United States.
I know these topics animate you, but what personally got you to that place right now?
I had a lot of family that worked in the sharp end of the stick in U.S. intelligence.
And they never really told me any of the classified or secret stuff.
But my uncle was high level.
I ran Contra and a bunch of other stuff.
Oh, really?
So I wouldn't have ever guessed it.
You were parents or uncles?
Just a lot of people.
Okay, a lot of people in your family were in U.S. intelligence.
Well, back during the 70s, 80s and stuff, before they went from Humet to electronic intelligence, there was a mobilization of the population against the Russians and others.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, I mean, I had a lot of family.
If I went to a family reunion, it was like a Soldier of Fortune convention.
And they would just talk about what the government was doing, what was going on.
They were patriots.
Just like we see all these whistleblowers now in the government.
They didn't like what was happening.
So it's not even that the government's our enemy, it's that criminals at the top have basically captured it.
So when you're a child growing up hearing all this, I just kind of absorbed it.
I wasn't even really listening to it until later I realized how true it was.
And then I started to go to college a little bit, but I was already very successful in business by the time I was like 19 as a salesman.
And boom, I saw really this anti-American Race-based brainwashing that we see out in the open now that was going on here in Austin on the college campuses.
And so I decided, well...
And when was this, just so we track the time?
This was in about 1993. Okay.
And I've been on air since 1994, officially 95. Okay.
But you were a salesman before that.
You started college.
Where was that at?
I just went to local community college.
Here in Austin?
I was figuring out what I wanted to do.
Here in Austin?
Absolutely.
But you were already a successful salesman, so then you decided to find your way out of college.
Yeah, I had jobs when I was a kid.
My dad had money and stuff.
My parents were successful.
And I would say, I want new shoes.
I want to get a new wakeboard.
Because we lived in the lake and my dad would say, well, let's go get a job.
So from the time I was about 13, I had jobs and then I got into different sales.
But the biggest thing is I was selling gym memberships and stuff when I was 18 and I was making $150,000 a year, $200,000 a year.
And then I was going to community college, figuring out if I wanted to go to Maine College.
And it was just insane.
I went and sat in on some UT courses on RTF, radio, television, films.
I thought I might want to do that because I wanted to be politically involved.
And they were teaching 20-year-old stuff.
I was like, you're not talking about the internet, these classes.
Why am I here?
Like, well, first you got to take all these other classes.
So I... Started out on AXS TV in 1994. Got my own show in 95. Got a website in 97. Got a local radio show in 96. Called up satellite companies.
Bought the equipment.
The station let me put in the connection to the satellite.
Syndicated myself when I was...
And you're in your early 20s doing...
Just decided you're going to do all this yourself.
Syndicated myself at 22. Got on suddenly like 50-something radio stations.
It was insane.
Hit the national news immediately.
Decided instead of selling coffee...
What were you talking about?
Well, instead of selling coffee mugs and newsletters like other talk shows did to supplement their income, I said, I'm going to make films.
And so I would go and show the U.N. taking over the national parks and show the U.N. signs and show what that treaty meant that it was taking control of U.S. land under U.N. treaties, kind of like the U.N. treaty on health care and things that's happening right now.
And so I just basically exploded On to the underground scene with conservatives and people that were aware of what was going on.
In about 1996, I was already reaching millions of people.
And so it's been a long, long-term operation, 29 years on air.
Ever since?
Absolutely.
We've, you know, 9-11 happened, and I question 9-11.
And I was on almost 200 radio stations.
I've been offered, you know, by major companies, you know, the next big Rush Limbaugh-style deal.
I guess Glenn Beck took that deal.
Nothing against him, you know, overall great guy, really smart.
And I went from almost 200 affiliates to 30-something affiliates in one month when 9-11 happened.
And I wasn't for radical Islam, and I believe Islamists were involved, but I knew about the NORAD stand-down.
I knew about Building 7. I knew about a lot of the stuff that I was talking to police about that were on the ground, that they knew it was coming, bare minimum.
Kind of like I'm against the attack on Israel, and Hamas is terrible, but something like 85% in major polls of Israelis think the government knew and let it happen now.
So it was the same thing, but when I said that then, The radio network owners I was on, GCN, came to me and they said, listen, we just lost 50 affiliates today.
They're all going to dump you if you don't stop.
And I said, well, it's the truth.
I'm going to keep questioning it.
So that just shows I never did this for monetary gain or just to be popular.
Though I do need monetary operations to fund my operation and be free and independent, I'm not for sale.
And so I've already been up and down.
That's why they de-platformed me and things and thought I would just give up.
I didn't.
So I started out on Access Television.
And so I've started from the very, you know, mailroom of media, and I've, you know, at one point in 2016, 17, much bigger show than Rush Limbaugh, much bigger show than Joe Rogan, undoubtedly the number one independent, or not even independent, media show in the country, over 30 million viewers and listeners.
2016, 2017. Okay.
And then that's when they do platforming because I was just number one.
I mean, every day over 25 million listers conservatively.
And so that's when they said, well, we got to stop this guy.
And then that's when the tax came.
But I've survived that.
And now we've rebuilt in many ways.
So we're stronger than ever.
We're definitely more influential.
Yeah.
Well, you said the motivation is not monetary.
I do find that people who are successful, I can see you're passionate.
What is that mission?
What is it that calls you?
I mean, you've been doing this now for a few decades now.
You're clearly called by something.
What is it?
Well, when I was, I mean, five, six, seven years old, friends and family would come to the house, and I'd have to be playing chess with them or poker, and I'd hear all these guys, you know, FBI agents, Army colonels, you know, spooks, talking about the New World Order and the global government, getting rid of the border and selling out America, and this plan for regional governments, this plan for a computer to run everything.
And then as I got older, I started seeing that in publications and being pushed by the media.
And then I read books by David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.
And really, for a few years, when I got out of high school, I would actually go to the UT library and actually pull up the microfilm.
They would have the head librarian come out and say, we've never seen a young person come and ask for this to be pulled.
Why are you looking up the New York Times?
And they weren't upset.
They thought it was cool.
And there I was reading the New York Times in the 1970s, David Rockefeller praising Mao Zedong and saying, we need that here in America.
Mao Zedong was the greatest mass murderer in history, about triple what Hitler and Stalin killed, more than what both men killed combined.
So I really started reading their plans for global government, cashless society, depopulation, the Club of Rome.
I learned about the Bilderberg Group.
I learned about Bohemian Grove, all these weird rituals and things.
So I said, well, let me see if this is real.
So in 2000, I snuck in there.
And sure enough, right when they said the ritual happened, they did this weird Mock human sacrifice, Faustian slash Babylonian Canaanite Moloch ritual.
And so it was really the adventure of it and the mystery of it, being told this when I was growing up, kind of ignoring it, then seeing a lot of what I was told come true, and then getting into the books of the establishment, but also reading books that were countering it.
And saying, I want to find out if this is true.
I want to find out if they're really doing this.
I want to find out if, I mean, I remember they had all these military drills all over Texas and the country with black helicopters in the mid-90s.
And when people would talk about it, they'd say that doesn't exist.
So we got tips from the military, went and caught it on footage of them.
You know, they'd covertly lease a building that was going to be demolished later.
Then they'd basically attack it and blow it up and do it.
They're training.
It's okay.
They need new training grounds.
But then they would deny in the little town where it happened or even the big city that it just happened.
So by then, we were catching it on video.
And whereas people had caught it on video before, there wasn't really web streaming of video.
96, 97, 98, that was all coming on board.
And so we would go catch footage of that.
So, I mean, it was really like ghost hunting, but hunting real ghost.
And so I was basically doing private, independent, pro-American intelligence work for the people, and it was just super exciting.
And because I was so prominent early on, and was on shortwave and satellite and a bunch of radio stations, all these old timers, Sent me stuff.
And I mean, the former head of the FBI in LA would come on the show and advise me.
And General Benton K. Parton, the former head of the Air Force Weapons Development, would come on.
And so I really, starting at about 96, 97, got the brain trust of all these heavy hitters who were on their own dime would fly to Austin or drive in their RVs.
The former head of the Star Wars program, Dr. Bob Bowman, they'd get in their RVs and drive from wherever they lived.
Sometimes they stay at my house and we do a week on air, them just data dumping because they've been trying to write books and magazine articles and little obscure things.
And so I was thrown right in the middle of this excitement and it was interesting and it was fun.
And back then it was more academic.
Yeah, the globalists were getting a lot of things done, but I'd read stuff in the mid-'90s about they plan to ban beef, and they plan to have a carbon credit, and they plan to track everywhere you go with switches in your cars, and they plan to listen to you through microphones in your cable box.
Then we'd bust a cable box open with an engineer on my local TV show, and there'd be the microphone with the schematics.
And of course, now they're like, oh, that's voice analysis.
That's a voice prompt.
But they didn't tell you for a decade that was in there.
So it was just so exciting.
To be in a war in my own country against these multinational corporations that wanted to take America over.
And so I was always saying, is it real?
Is it real?
And I got to tell you, 95% of what the old timers told me, because these old timers were just like my uncle and just like some other family, what they've been telling me, but a lot of these guys were even higher up in it.
And so I learned from people that were on the inside what was going on.
So I had a long education over the last 29 years.
This has really been an education.
And so I just get deeper and deeper into my understanding of how it all interconnects.
What I'm hearing is the story of a journalist.
Yes.
A guy who's curious, records things, describes them, and shares them with people.
Now, let me ask a question.
I'll tell you where I'm going with this.
You're in this to seek underlying truth that other people aren't getting to.
That's what I'm hearing you and telling your story.
Once in a while, that means you're going to find something that looks like it's going to be one way, it wasn't exactly the way you thought, and so maybe you were wrong.
I've made a lot of mistakes.
Yeah, and so what do you do in that scenario?
Let's say you're a journalist, because I know how mainstream media deals with it right now.
That's a different way.
They sweep it under the rug.
Let's say you're wrong and you realize that you had one thesis and you were getting to the bottom of it, but then you get to the hard facts and you say, hey, you were wrong about it.
Give me an example of where that happened, actually.
I think that's kind of interesting to hear you talk about.
Also, what I've noticed is they've had a lot of national TV characters like Homeland and the newer X-Files that came out in 2016 where they admit it's based on me.
Oh really?
Homeland?
Oh yeah.
Oh wow.
And a bunch of them.
You look it up.
And they'll create this straw man where I'm lying on purpose and I'm getting things wrong on purpose.
I never meant I'm wrong.
I always, when I said I thought I knew something and I was wrong, I always admitted it.
And so...
Give me an example.
In the case of Sandy Hook, long before they sued me, long before they came after me, I barely talked about it.
If you look at my live as a timeline, at first I thought it was official and thought it happened.
Then some professors and people came out with a bunch of anomalies and thought it might have been staged.
Just like people are questioning whether Hamas cut babies' heads off right now.
You know, that's the big thing going on.
And I don't think there's really proof to that.
But they blow them up, they shoot them, it's the same thing.
So now people are on Twitter saying, oh, we need to sue the people that said they cut baby's heads off, or we need to sue the people that say it didn't happen because you're not allowed to debate was Jussie Smollett really attacked, which we now know that was fake, or so many of these other events like Operation Northwoods and things where the government did plan to do atrocities or did plan to stage atrocities and blame on an enemy.
And so with that, I started saying, two or three years before I got sued, I said, I don't want to talk about this.
I think the people that said this, it turns out, are lunatics.
I think the info they put out, they were professors and school safety experts.
I found some of what they said, the anomalies, wasn't true.
I think school shootings happened.
Because every time there was a school shooting, people would say, Alex Jones is saying this isn't happening, whether it was Parkland, any of that.
So I was saying, no, I think this is happening.
And then the media and the system went, oh, he's weak on that because they would sweep it under the rug if they were wrong.
Let's get him.
So then they resurrected it.
I was the platform for other stuff.
I mean, look it up.
Then they resurrected it.
And then blew up a straw man of things I didn't say or do with no proof.
I went to their houses, sent people to their houses, peed on graves, no proof.
Then they sue me, they get all the discovery.
Did you ever do any of those things?
No, of course not.
Of course not.
Never even been to Connecticut until I was there for court.
So where are they getting this kind of nonsense?
Just make it up.
I mean...
The thing is, I cover stories and then I move on.
They introduced in court like 22 minutes of video of me over 10 years on Sandy Hook.
That was it.
It was not something we made money off of.
It was not something that was even a big deal.
We had like one debate where somebody thought it happened, didn't thought it happened to newspaper editors.
Callers are calling about it sometimes.
It was a big viral story up front.
People questioned it like 11 years ago.
I didn't get sued for like six years later.
Until long after you had already said, hey, I wasn't necessarily right on that one.
I mean, I said I thought, I mean, I think shootings happen.
I think it happened.
And I mean, if people track this, it's just amazing how it works.
It's interesting.
So this is after years later, after you admitted you were wrong on it, that they chose to come after you.
Yes.
And then the judges in Texas and Connecticut defaulted me, which is supposed to be if you never show up for court and you're not there, they can default you.
And this is all on the record.
Just like the Trump judge, they passed a law in New York.
So it's not called a default, but it's the same thing.
The judge doesn't give him a jury, and the judge has found Trump in the real estate fraud case has found him guilty.
Got the loans, paid the loans.
Obviously, Mar-Logo's not worth $18 million.
It's worth hundreds of millions.
The judge says, no, it's not.
I find that fraud.
And the appeals court had to block him taking his hotels and golf courses in New York.
One judge, no jury, said, I'm taking everything you've got in New York and we're going to take more stuff outside the state.
And Trump said, I would like a jury trial.
They said, no.
So I had a jury trial, but they found me guilty.
The judge did.
And they would not let us put on evidence.
It was only a trial on damages.
They put on a financial expert and said he's worth $400 million.
I had like $3 million in the bank at the time for emergency backup money.
That's gone now.
And then they put me through.
They told the bankruptcy court I had all this money.
And, of course, it was proven I told the truth.
Obviously, I go to jail if I lied in there.
And they don't care because they said we want to take him off the air.
We want to silence him.
We want to end his free speech.
These are quotes that they said in Connecticut, in the court, outside the court, and in Texas, inside the court.
So I want to move on from that because there's bigger things than me.
But this weaponization of the judiciary, Giuliani was basically defaulted in New York because there wasn't evidence they were asking for.
The judges said, you're guilty.
Fox in its January 6th case.
What is this defaulting business?
They have in law...
What does that mean?
A default means it's called...
I should know this.
It's called the death penalty.
You shouldn't know it because it's not supposed to be used.
But I don't know about it.
It's called a death penalty sanction.
Okay.
And so if they say you don't participate in a civil trial, the judge can find you guilty by default.
They still have to have a trial on the damages.
They didn't even give me a real trial on the damages.
So this is a fraud on America, and it's very dangerous, and they're defaulting people across the board now.
If you don't show up.
Yeah, but I did.
And with me, they said, well, you didn't give us the discovery.
Because it didn't exist.
They said, show us the marketing material for standing.
I don't do marketing material for shows.
I look at a bunch of news articles, some video clips.
I go on air.
I didn't do a marketing study with you for this.
This is new to me.
We talked for two minutes before we went on there, right?
Maybe two minutes, a minute.
A minute and a half.
He walks in, boom, sits down.
Get on there.
The judge says, give me the marketing material.
Vivek, tell me about your plan with Alex.
Tell me about the secret plans you guys had in this thing.
All the marketing, all the Google Analytics.
Tell me about your meeting.
Wait a minute, you're not going to give me the evidence?
You're defaulted.
I'm just going to say, I'm personally a little bit blushing here.
I don't even know about this legal procedure.
That's because they're not supposed to use it.
So it's not even that you don't show up and you default.
That's what it's supposed to be.
It's that you're not participating in the process according to the standards that they set.
And they set a bar you can't reach.
I'm going to go back and learn the heck about this.
Because if what you described is true, that is a real danger to the integrity of the judicial system.
I'm going to go independently learn about this myself.
But the point is, they can default you even if the judge deems you not actively or sufficiently participating in discovery.
Yes.
In a civil trial.
It depends on which state, I suppose.
And just like I was telling people, hey, the Justice Department and the CIA are involved, it was in government documents, running the censorship of us in the last six months that came out in Congress, people thought, oh yeah, I know I was on the air showing them the legislation, showing them the funding for the Ministries of Truth and all this stuff.
I'm telling people they're defaulting everybody.
They defaulted Trump by the law.
How does a judge do this and take what you've got?
They're defaulting everybody else where the judge finds you guilty.
So you see the headlines, Trump already guilty in New York.
And then it's just jury trial for damages.
Yes, but in Trump's case...
Just like they passed the law so that woman could sue him saying he sexually assaulted her and they changed the law to go back decades.
New York has passed a law where judges, it's not even default, it's a new form of it, where the judge just says you don't get a jury trial.
See, this was very concerning to me because, I mean, a lot of what's happened in the country is very concerning.
But the judicial system is the last bastion of protection.
Totally weaponized.
It's the last frontier for us to be able to say, OK, executive branch badly taken over by three-letter agencies that nobody ever elected with any backstop of political accountability.
Forget about Congress.
Think about prosecutorial power and the executive branch abused.
But the judicial system is our last best hope for the last ultimate line of defense.
But if that itself can sidestep basic principles of confronting witnesses, basic principles of being judged by a jury of your peers rather than by a single judge.
This is basic.
First Amendment was a Bill of Rights.
And that's why they still did the stuff.
That's why they still did the damages show trial where people said his lawyers are terrible.
Alex Jones is.
No, they weren't.
They were given a list.
Of things like, you can't say you're innocent.
You can't say, yeah, you can't question the witnesses about this or that.
So when they're up there with no, here's an example.
There was an FBI agent in Connecticut, never saw his name, never showed his picture, never talked about him.
I didn't talk about him.
He got up there and said, I got one phone call by somebody asking if I was really an FBI agent, because he was there without his FBI vest at Sandy Hook, holding a gun by the barrel.
The internet question, anybody know who he was?
He sued me when 90 plus million dollars.
Never said his name.
Never said his name.
So here's how this works.
With most people, I can come on here and if people like this, they go, I'll go find Alex Jones' show on X or on Facebook or on the podcasting thing.
I've been delisted from everywhere.
So I have to sit here and point out to viewers, if you want to find what I'm actually saying, infowars.com forward slash show.
And in normal etiquette for a talk show, that's like somebody pitching themselves.
No, I'm isolated Surrounded can only communicate when people like you let me out of prison to walk in the yard for a little while.
And I can desperately try to, you know, get messages out by smoke signals to people about what's happening to me, which they admit is the model to shut everybody else down.
So you're a smart guy.
Well, the smartest.
Everybody knows that's true.
I'm not just saying it.
I hope you'll go look into this and I hope you'll find out about it because it is incredible.
I've already learned something today that's frightening.
Now, there's so many bigger things than me.
I mean, there's these wars and there's the casual society and the open borders and all the race baiting.
I mean, we're being divided and conquered.
That's why your message of coming together to celebrate our hard-fought American freedoms is so essential.
One of the things that's true about the American way is that we're not founded on moderate ideals, right?
The ideals that set this country into motion.
I love that we have a map behind us, right?
Old World England had a different view.
And let's just smoke it out.
We can say agree or disagree before we get to the agree or disagree.
At least let's get the best version of the view on the table, which is that people, ordinary people, cannot be trusted to sort out their differences on climate change or racial injustice or whatever it was back in that era.
For their own good.
It's not just that the kings or the aristocrats say, hey, I want to enrich myself and do it at the expense of the people.
That's what many who are frustrated with monarchy might say.
It's an arrogance.
But it's actually an arrogance found in what they think of as benevolence, right?
Which is to say that, no, no, we're not doing this for us, for our power.
And we'll come to the modern version of this in a second.
We're doing this for the sake of people who cannot be trusted and left to their own devices because it's for them we're doing it, which is even more dangerous than somebody who comes in and says, oh, we're just doing it for my own rich, my own private personal gain.
No, no, no.
That's not the view.
The view is the people cannot be trusted to sort out their differences through free speech.
I mean, the idea you get to speak your mind as long as I get to in return.
The idea that there's a republic where your vote and my vote count equally.
And that's why they can't compete.
Because the rest of the world starts aspiring to that.
You've got to bring that down so people stop aspiring.
So that British Empire model, now the BlackRock Global Banking Empire, which they admit with the ESGs and everything, you're absolutely dead on.
And if you expand on that...
But I just want to get the view on the table so people understand.
Because there's a lot wrong with it.
But at least to understand.
Put yourself...
The way I am, Alex, is...
You could try something on like a set of clothes.
I agree.
Any good general gets in the mind of the enemy.
Yes.
And then you say, okay, Here, I've got to understand why it fits.
I've got to really try it on.
Understand why it doesn't fit.
Then it doesn't fit, you put it back on the rack.
Then you understand your own views better.
Well, that's right.
This laissez-faire competitive system is way more sexy.
And in 1950, we had half the world's wealth.
We were 4% of the population.
Now we've become globalists and crony capitalists.
Give me those facts again.
Sorry, you're going pretty fast there.
That sounds interesting.
In 1950, the United States had half the wealth in the world.
Is that right?
Because of our invention.
Immediately post-World War II. Yeah, absolutely.
Post-World War II, we had half the world's wealth, and we were 4% of the world's population.
As measured by GDP, probably.
As measured by GDP. Half the GDP of the world.
What is it today?
I should know these things.
It's gone down a lot.
I think it's in the high 20s, early 30s.
Yeah, sounds about right.
Maybe a quarter to a third.
I haven't looked at it in a while, but what I'm getting at here is what you said is so dead on.
In fact, I need to make that point more.
You can pull these clips up.
Remember when Obama Went to Latin America the last few months of his Then he went to a bunch of countries in Africa, and he gave the same speech, Vivek, in every country.
What did he say?
He said, quote, you can't have cars in air conditioning.
The world's going to heat up and burn up.
Now, here's a guy flying on a giant jet with dozens of aircraft.
After that, he has private jets.
He has houses at basically sea level in Martha's Vineyard and, you know, Hawaii, though he said we were already supposed to be underwater by 2017, though they keep just buying Al Gore, all of them, Oceanfront property, not up on cliffs or something.
They're bearing that cross.
Absolutely.
They're bearing that cross for the rest of us.
Well, I mean, that's it.
They're on private jets.
People like Ted Turner has like five kids.
He says, I want to depopulate 90% of the world's population.
Look it up.
Him on Charlie Rose.
Well, he has five kids.
He has jets.
He has palatial compounds.
But you in Africa, you can't aspire.
You need to live in this, we'll eat the bugs, W-E-F rationing for the good of the earth while the ruling class lives like kings and goes around in their giant super yachts.
To mountaintops in Davos.
With carbon footprints thousands of times an American and an American's carbon footprint is 30, 40, 50 times than somebody in Congo.
So in Congo you don't get anything and so it's the decision to not industrialize those countries and that's how they control third world countries and then they sit back and say well that's why you're in squalor because you're not as good as us we're gonna you know take care of you but now that same inherent elitism beyond racism It's now being used against the West and they're now impoverishing the West as a political tool of control.
Yeah.
So this is the modern old world European ugly monster rearing its head again.
Yes.
Which is fascinating, right?
Because we fought a revolution.
We thought that in 1776, we said on this side of 1776, on this side of the Atlantic, We do things differently.
Where, you know what, we the people do sort out our differences in a constitutional republic, where every citizen's voice and vote counts equally with free speech and open debate.
That's what we thought.
And every little while, that ugly monster rears its head again.
World War I was in some ways the physical conflict of that.
Old World European monarchical worldview.
Well, that was because the British Empire, who was the villain in that war, not in World War II, Hitler was the bad guy there after the first side treaty, they literally said the German problem, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, because it was dominant in industry science.
It was taken over not with the military, but with all of its inventions.
So it was kind of the new America, but it was run by another royal family, so they had to kill the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and start World I, so you're dead on.
And so this battle plays itself out every century or so in different ways.
And I think right now we live in another one of these 1776 months.
Fourth turning.
Yeah, that's one way to put it.
I've heard I'm familiar with the evolution.
Let's use the analogy of America, the United States, and India.
I call it, I've been saying this for 20 plus years, that's why they do want me off here.
What do I stand for?
Americana, freedom, soft power, people aspiring to be like America, making us the best.
American exceptionalism.
American exceptionalism.
Take India.
You know, controlled by the British, kick them out, now wildly successful because you guys actually got control of your government, had your own resources.
Same thing.
I would call that 1776 worldwide.
And that's not America controlling things.
It's the idea of freedom, idea of the people, the idea of loving your nation, empowering the individual, and a meritocracy.
Meritocracy, what a word.
It's a bad word these days.
It is.
I mean, I go back and I look at World War II. And almost all of our generals got there through meritocracy and grew up on little farms or in poor areas of cities, and there was almost nobody whose dad or granddad was an admiral who was there.
In fact, it was almost discrimination against the aristocracy was what America was doing, because George Washington was being discriminated against by the aristocracy, even though he was really a part of it.
He was mad.
That was one of the big reasons that even the quote elites of America fought the British elites because they were tired of saying, well, I'm actually your cousin, but I'm not a lord, so I can't ship products out of the colonies.
And so if the rich guys want freedom, And they finally set up for themselves, that will have to trickle down.
And that's why they can point at America's beginning and say we weren't perfect.
But it was the idea of the process.
And as more people get into that, that's the victory.
So now you look at who is the leaders of the military.
They'll have some token people.
Oh, look, a black guy, you know, a white lady or whatever.
But if you actually look, it's a bunch of bluebloods whose grandfathers were in control at the end of World War II when America absorbed the British Empire and became this new globalist system.
So America is like the engine and the brain, along with the British intelligence, of this very evil thing.
I mean, I've got Jones.
I mean, I've got a Welsh last name on against...
I'm not an Anglophile, but I'm not an Anglophobe.
But the system of the British Empire and the ghost of it through BlackRock and its Rural Institute of International Affairs and the CFR and these corporate management boards are devolving the governments while they expand them and transferring the power to themselves.
That's the New World Order.
That's globalism.
But it's actually the Old World Order.
It is.
You're right.
It's really just the Old World Order in New World clothing.
That's exactly it.
And that's what we've got to understand.
And so the optimistic side of me says that what a special time it would have been to be alive in the spring of 1776. I mean, it was a special time to be alive.
You've got Thomas Jefferson, the age of 33. People say I'm old.
I'm young.
Well, I'm old compared to Thomas Jefferson.
He was 33 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.
Absolutely.
Genius.
You have people who are the pioneers, the explorers, the unafraid that said, you know what, we are going to not just be victimized by this.
We're going to chart a new way forward.
That's the moment we live in.
I totally agree.
33 was old back then because a lot of people died young.
You either die young or live a really long time, but the average was we didn't live as long.
You're absolutely right.
People were married by 16. People were explorers by 16. And, you know, Thomas Jefferson lived a long time, but by 33, he was leading a revolution against an empire that had never been defeated.
And an inventor, and he was inventing things.
He was an engineer.
He invented the swivel chair, invented a bunch of other things, too, while he's running the Declaration of Independence.
That spirit...
In some ways, would history have produced the Thomas Jeffersons and the Alexander Hamiltons of the world if it weren't for the fact that they had this oppressive regime to stand up against?
I think probably not.
No, I totally agree.
So this is an opportunity, the moment we live in.
Because I am sick and tired even myself of, I don't know if you've read some of the books I've written or anything like this, of pointing out the problem.
I've got plenty of that.
But this is our opportunity now.
We're not just going to throw up our hands and complain about it.
This is our moment to revive.
I agree.
My wife's a huge fan.
Thank you.
Tell her thank you.
What's her name?
Erica.
Erica, tell her thank you.
She almost got up this morning, but we don't have anybody to take care of my daughter.
She's got to get her to school.
How old's your daughter?
Six and a half.
Oh, it's good age.
I've got four children, three with my first wife and then one with her.
Oh, good for you.
And I don't mean to interrupt.
You're so dead on.
I see you talk about this is our 1776 moment.
I really mean that.
This is an opportunity.
It is.
Instead of being the leftist mind, we're being attacked, we're being oppressed, let's give up and complain.
Let's innovate.
Let's out-communicate.
Let's use this pressure like lifting weights or jogging or climbing a mountain.
To get stronger, that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, to quote Nietzsche.
And it's totally true.
And this is 1776, part two for the whole world.
And it's very exciting.
And I think we've got to go through stages of this.
And you've been doing this in my own corner of the world.
I've been doing this to point out the problem and see it with clear eyes.
You can't win a war unless you know that you're in one.
That's the first step, okay?
And you got a bunch of people on that Republican Party stage that have no clue.
I mean, these are clueless puppets.
They don't even know what exactly.
They're just, I'm a politician.
They have no clue.
I want to be rich and powerful.
Here are my super PAC provided talking points, literally.
They're like going to a whorehouse and the whores are lined up showing you what they got and telling you their specialty.
I mean, they're literally in front of the corporation saying, I'm good at this, I'm good at that.
Mother's milk for them.
Money is the mother's milk of politics.
So put them to one side.
But my view is, you can't win a war unless you know you're in one.
And part of my job has been laying out the weaponization of financial markets, the weaponization of our capital, the weaponization of basically every sphere of our lives.
This fringe minority view has taken over institutions from K-12 education, to our universities, to Wall Street, to Silicon Valley, to our U.S. military.
Now, I think it's worth pausing.
I was going to get to the positive part before I do that.
I think it's worth answering the question of why this other side has managed to take over every institution.
And I have an unconventional theory of this one, Alex.
I think that it's worth seeing.
You know, you and I may be, you know, we're conservative.
People may classify us as being in the right.
But take those labels off for a second.
I'm a populist.
I mean, just take...
I hate labels.
They're not useful.
I agree.
They're reductionists.
So let's just look at the substance of this.
People who would have identified as being on the old left...
Occupy Wall Street challenging the bailouts.
The old left version of breakup big tech.
The old left that was critical of colleges charging way too much money for providing far less in return.
The people who have criticized schools in the inner cities failing to serve black kids in the inner city or whatever.
Even our military.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A lot of that criticism used to come from what was perceived to be the old left.
What happened was each of those institutions, what they did was, if you're Wall Street, you don't want to occupy Wall Street, but I'll do the new woke stuff.
Diversity, inclusion, climate change.
Great.
If you're Silicon Valley, I don't like the left-wing breakup big tech.
I'll censor hate speech and misinformation as you define it, but I don't do it for free as long as I get to get you off my back.
The U.S. military, if you're Mark Milley, you don't want to talk about accountability for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Forget about that.
I'll talk about white rage and systemic racism.
So part of this is a deeper arranged marriage.
It's more like, I mean, use the whorehouse analogy, it's more like mutual prostitution between two strange bedfellows.
That's right.
The power structure has failed.
They're not the aristocrats that are doing it for their own good.
They know they're a fraud.
The system's coming apart.
Yes.
They know it's a fraud, but it's an arranged marriage that allows them to keep their power intact.
That's it.
So anyway, you've talked about several themes.
Yeah.
I mean, look.
There's a meme.
It's totally true.
History shows it.
Bad times make hard men.
Hard men make good times.
Good times make weak men.
Weak men make bad times.
It's a cycle.
So a lot of it is our fault.
We can't just blame the globalists and the aristocracy.
Thank you.
Their rot is our rot.
And so...
That's what I'm talking about.
There's so much entertainment, so much food.
We've got to look in the mirror and ask ourselves, why is it that we bend the knee?
Because, yes, when the Israelites escape from the Pharaoh, they're lost in the desert, yet to find the promised land.
What do they say?
We want to go back and be ruled by the Pharaoh.
That's right.
And so we can complain about the Pharaoh all we want.
And it exists.
You know, the global ESG movement, modern stakeholder...
But we have to build our own system.
That's actually...
What is it that makes us want to bend the knee?
That's actually what this book, The Great Awakening, comes out next week.
It's available on Infowars right now, pre-order.
This is a really important book, Defeating the Globalist and Launching the Next Great Renaissance.
I wasn't even going to bring the book up until you brought this up.
This book is not just about how they're bad.
That's half the book.
The rest is solutions.
So I'm really impressed with your work and research.
I hope you'll read it.
Want to take a copy?
Please, sir.
Take a couple for your crew as well.
Absolutely.
But I mean, you're totally nailing it, and I watched and listened to you.
That's how I was able to steal your thunder and say, in fact, you influenced this book in me hearing you.
We've got to talk more about solutions.
And I was already on that kick, but you're right.
I was like, I've got to write a book about solutions and the system we can build that's alternative.
This is the moment now.
Now is our moment to do it.
We can't just say, blow this up.
We've got to have an alternative vision of our own, right?
Yes.
So, I think that for me, and it doesn't mean we can have competing visions.
This is the conversation we need to have.
If the left is feeding us race, gender, sexuality, climate...
How about reviving the individual?
Yes.
How about the family?
Yes.
Nation?
Not some nebulous global citizen fighting climate change.
I'm a citizen of this nation, the United States of America.
And I'm proud of it.
I'm not going to apologize for it.
And by the way, God, I think, plays a big role in this, too.
I think the revival of faith is something that can unite us as a country.
I totally agree with this.
That's what the book's about.
And again, I'm not against gay people.
You know, rainbow flag stuff, but it's the new flag.
They're even talking about getting rid of the American flag.
They're now trying to take George Washington's statue down in New York.
They're now doing all of this and this is all unfolding and we're having our symbols that recognize who we are and what we stand for away from us and giving us a new one that is a government corporate directed sex cult.
I don't care if it was a heterosexual cult showing me their flag and taking down our flag and telling my kids about it.
I mean, if it was some new flag about NASCAR, I'm not against NASCAR, but it was NASCAR stuff everywhere.
Them telling my kids pledge allegiance to NASCAR, I'd say, this is a NASCAR cult.
Get it out of here.
And then what it is...
A cult is interesting.
It's an interesting use of the word.
So a cult is a religion that has not withstood the test of time.
Okay.
So it's short term.
And so there's an old saying, actually, I think it came from Blaise Pascal.
He was a scientist of all things, but he said, if there's a hole the size of God in your heart and God does not fill it, something else will instead.
Exactly.
And my civic version of that.
They've kicked God out and now.
Some other poison fills the void.
Demon is filling it.
And so my version of that in a civic sense is if we don't pledge allegiance to the American flag or to a true flag of our nation, we're going to pledge allegiance to a different flag instead.
I said that as a matter of analogy, but now literally there are different flags.
I mean, the transgender flag.
And there's more and more and more.
We're being divided and conquered.
That's right.
They call it the broken coalition strategy.
This came out in the Clinton documents in their library in Little Rock.
And as they're about to win the presidency, they're having meetings.
The papers are public now.
We've got to create the broken coalition strategy nationwide where no group can be powerful and organized.
So the parliamentary system is weak because look at Justin Trudeau.
He only gets 30% of the vote, but he has coalitions with the broken coalition.
Coalition strategy to then have the tyranny of different minorities getting together against the majority.
Oh, it's such an interesting invocation of that, because that describes our current moment right now in this country.
We have, in the name of protecting against a tyranny of the majority, we have created a new tyranny of the minority.
Exactly.
And that minority has captured every institution.
And that's what you told the transgender.
See, I'm quoting you back.
You've taught me a lot.
Yeah, you remember that.
And I gotta tell you, Vivek, of course I do.
I watch you every day.
You and Tucker Carlson are two of my favorite people.
And I tell my listeners, who are real owly and don't trust the system, they're like, well, how do we know this guy's good?
And I'm like, there's no way Vivek's saying all these things.
That's like high noon or holy water to a vampire.
He's not one of them.
You do not say these things.
This irrevocably damages the lie.
He is good by the very fruit of the tree, as Christ said.
And my view is people should be skeptical.
I always encourage skepticism, but we've got to do something about this.
We've got to move on.
We've got to do something about this.
I mean, take RFK Jr. I would say I agree with about 90% of him.
I agree with about 99% of you.
His climate stuff is a little bit off the reservation.
Well, he used to say, we're going to arrest people that question this.
Yeah, yeah.
It's really hard to walk that back.
He's got something.
But he says it's out of context.
He was talking about corporations that lie like cigarettes.
But still, I think the climate agenda itself is a hoax.
Of course it is.
Climate change is a constant.
I think any person who leads the United States going forward cannot be somebody who accepts the premises of the climate change agenda as a fixed principle.
It's a fear-mongering for the cult.
It's disqualifying for the U.S. To make you think you're bad to give control of your life over to them.
And let me just say something briefly here.
I'm not a petroleum geologist, but I have family that is.
They told me this 30 years ago.
It's not coming from dead whales and dead dinosaurs.
They now have the devices and systems.
They keep finding oil deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper, 50,000, 60,000 feet, all the way down to the mantle, through the crust, and they're hitting oil and gas deposits that are so big, they don't have pipes that can contain what's coming up.
And what it is, is if you look at Mars, scientists now believe that it wants an atmosphere, but this is a short science lesson, It once had an atmosphere, but its gravity wasn't big enough to hold the atmosphere and it had water.
We know there's water under the surface.
There's water under the surface of the moon.
That's been confirmed.
India confirmed that, what our folks confirmed back in the 60s.
So that's going on.
So there's actually giant reserves, and they're saying these gases are bad.
The Earth used to have way higher concentrations of methane, carbon dioxide, oxygen, all these things.
But it's off-gas in the space, and it has retreated underground.
So if you look at millions of years ago, now what carbon dioxide's You know, zero point whatever, four.
I mean, it's a fraction of a percent.
And things used to be healthier.
Plants can take ten times the carbon dioxide.
They grow faster, need less water.
We need this.
So it's really a magic moment, talking about God existing, that right as the Earth starts to slowly lose its atmosphere, it'll probably still be a few million years, we come along and are digging all this up and terraforming Geoengineering putting it back up.
It's good, folks.
They want to ban cows because they off-cast methane.
So do you.
Methane helps hold heat in.
We're due for another ice age, a 12,000-year cycle.
Well, you know what's funny, Alex?
You probably know this, but if you go to the Newsweek cover magazine or Time magazine in the 1970s...
Freezing.
Global ice age.
That's what they were saying.
And if you don't abandon our modern way of life for that, for in a different direction, we're going to have a global ice age.
More people are going to die this year of eight times as many people actually this year are going to die of cold temperatures rather than warm ones.
Absolutely.
So these are facts you don't hear in the ordinary climate discourse.
And they also lie.
They also lie.
They say, hottest time ever in Death Valley.
No, it's 134. It hit 131 this year.
They said, Texas, hottest ever, longest spell.
And then I went back and looked at the books, because I remember playing football in like 1990, and they had to cancel two-a-days, because it was 112, and people were dying all over the city of Dallas where I lived.
And it was also in Austin.
But I looked up the records, they're just lying.
I think that's what our pro-American movement needs to learn.
We've been lied to 360 degrees so much that it can create...
The first form of laziness is...
Just believing what you're force-fed.
But now our movement understands that you gotta reject whatever you're force-fed.
And I don't care if it's even force-fed by mainstream establishment on the left or on the right or whatever.
Reject what you're force-fed.
Question everything.
Question everything.
It's phase one.
But then, at some point, you're not going to get anywhere just by sitting and questioning.
That's the first step.
So that's what I'm saying.
We've seen the problem with clear eyes.
We understand the pharaoh.
We understand to be skeptical.
Now, I get this.
I'm not coming from a place of personal frustration, but when I'm coming on the scene aiming to lead this nation forward, people say, well, you came out of nowhere.
Didn't you start a biotech company?
And at some point, I'm going to say, listen, people.
Once we see the problem with clear eyes, we can't just spin our wheels and throw our hands up.
We need competent leaders who share our understanding of the problem to actually move this country forward.
The whole power structure came after you.
Then they did that whisper campaign that you were really secretly establishment because you're going around networking.
I mean, I've met with Bilderberg group members.
I've met with people that are in Davos.
I mean, I agree with them.
And you're not endorsing their system.
Hell no!
But the system has come after you.
Yes.
You've been the main target the last two debates.
That's the endorsement.
Just like people go, wait, they're indicting Trump for no reason.
That endorses him.
You are the next biggest targeted person.
Do you see this Hannity interview last night, by chance?
No, I missed it.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm making the case.
I think it's saying that on one hand, absolutely, Israel is our ally.
What happened to them was wrong.
It was barbaric.
It was medieval.
And of course, they have a right to national assault events.
But I've also said that we should not want to enter a broader regional conflict in the Middle East that doesn't advance U.S. interests because we have to learn from our prior mistakes in this country.
And that's arguably not good for Israel, but it's definitely not good for the United States.
And so I also pointed to others in the Republican Party, like Nikki Haley, who screech, finish them!
Finish them!
Talking about Hamas and Iran as though there's no distinction.
Finish them!
Okay, what are the consequences of that for the United States of America?
I don't see it.
Well, here's the problem.
So, interestingly, this guy, Hannity, I was very disappointed, comes after me for pointing out that Nikki Haley has made $8 million after her time as the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. as a military contractor and otherwise.
That was the wake-up call for me, is to see even a purported conservative voice...
Buy into what is the captured establishment super PAC puppetry.
You should watch this one.
I will.
Let me say something.
It was unbelievable.
It's powerful.
Let me say something to Sean Hannity because I know him.
Hey, Sean, the border has been completely wide open for two and a half years.
The Border Patrol admits tens of thousands conservatively of Hezbollah and Hamas fighters have gotten across.
They've caught a bunch of them.
if these are 90% military age men, do you know what Hamas will do?
They're here in our country.
You know what Hezbollah will do?
So, so it's in the United States of America that we look at Black Lives Matter endorsing the attacks on Israel.
So we have this problem and Iran has a high tech military.
It's not that I'm, quote, scared of Iran, but we need to support Israel, but obviously not have our aircraft carriers attack Iran.
And then now we're fighting Russia through NATO and we're fighting Iran.
What's going to happen, Sean?
Use your head.
This is how World War III starts, just like World War I and World War II. Once World Wars start, other people say, hey, they're tied down.
China is going to go into Taiwan, dummy.
And we can't take on China, too.
And the saddest part of this is that if there are Republican presidential candidates who stand to make money off of it...
Because they're on the boards or have been on the boards of Boeing and are collecting stock options while they're running for president and have had family military contracting businesses and made a habit of making money off their time in government.
This is why we have one crime family right now in the Biden family that has sold off our foreign policy to make their family rich.
I could care less if you have an R after your name and you're going to do the same thing.
And that's why it's so refreshing when you're on the stage.
Because literally, we've said this on air.
We've covered it live.
I was doing it at Sievert Crowder.
I'm like...
Vivek's the only guy I can listen to.
This is all talking points, crap.
They're all going to do what the military-industrial complex says.
And again, military-industrial complex, they said a year ago with Biden in December, we can't give tanks and F-16s and cruise missiles.
That'll escalate to World War III. But they went ahead and violated their own RAND Corporation threat escalation boards.
So see, your money's not going to be worth anything in your golf course stock options if we have World War III cuckoo.
And now China is messing with India.
India's got aircraft carriers out there about to go to war.
We are marching our way to World War III.
I am increasingly worried that there are people in the United States rooting for it.
And this is our moment to say, hey, we can actually, now we've seen the problem.
We can't just spin our wheels and complain about it.
We have a chance to lead this country, to shut down the deep state, declare independence from China, end World War III and our path to it.
Protect our own homeland, because that's our job and the moral obligation of the next president.
Peace, prosperity, American way.
And then pride.
And provide pride in this country.
And I think that we have a chance to do it.
Well, you know the International Bureau of Atomic Science, I forget the exact name of their doomsday clock, and we're very respected.
They've never moved the clock this close.
I mean, folks, China and India are basically already at war.
Pakistan's ready to go.
Iran is already in a proxy war with Russia against us.
China's getting ready to move to Taiwan.
China's moving all the way down to the Philippines.
They're in gun battles with the Vietnamese, trying to take their waters and oil fields.
I mean, these are the crazy times that it kicks off, and it's already begun.
Most analysts say we're already in World War III. The question is, will it go nuclear?
And that's why, Vivek, I am really glad you are the most successful person on injecting these topics.
Because I see you inject topics at the national level that would have never been there that are so vital.
And so, I mean, I... They may assassinate Trump, so, you know, you're...
I mean, I'd like him to get elected, but if not you, I think Kennedy is going to pull more from the Republicans if he runs independent, which he is.
So I like a lot of his ideas, but I think it's destructive.
Now, I'm not going to support Kennedy as a third-party candidate because that'll pull from the Republicans.
So, again, I hope nothing happens to Trump, but if something does happen to him...
Oh, God forbid.
Yeah, we don't want that.
I think we...
What we want is to advance the interests of this country and the people of this country to once again be in charge of who leads our nation.
Absolutely.
That's all I ask.
And I'm going to play my part to make that happen.
I'm glad we met, man.
We met literally one or two minutes.
We chatted before.
This is the first conversation we've ever had.
Well, I'm impressed.
I mean, you're showing up here like 6.45 in the morning.
We're taping this.
And I hear you're off the border.
Yeah, I'm going to the border, and then I'm going to New Hampshire.
I mean, we're all over the place, but I'm around the clock.
Well, you're a busy man.
They're pulling me out of here, actually.
All right, well, thank you.
We're going to Eagle Pass from here.
I'm in internet prison, so Infowars.com.
Band.video has all our band videos.
Band.video, the book, The Great Awakening.
I hope you'll read it.
I hope you'll come on my show soon, and tell me what you thought.
I'm a big fan of your work.
Thank you, man.
Good luck.
God bless you, man.
Be safe.
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