Robert Barnes critiques Donald Trump's debunked claim of saving Iranian women, exposing how media figures amplified AI-generated misinformation while selectively applying skepticism. He details the DOJ's indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center for allegedly laundering money through shell companies and highlights a defamation lawsuit by Shawnee Kirchhoff against Steve Bannon and The Blaze. Barnes argues this suit is a tactical maneuver to force discovery in a criminal pipe bomb case, suggesting the prosecution frames a black autistic defendant to hide CIA culpability, ultimately revealing deep state manipulation of legal and media institutions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Last Rabies Fatality in US00:02:03
Ladies and gentlemen, random stuff to start today's show.
Behold?
Gutting the very offices that keep American families safe from disturbing and deadly infectious diseases.
Senator, hold on, sir.
Senator, there's one to three rabies cases a year in the United States.
Oh, I think one person manning that office full time probably can handle that drastic.
In terms of prion disease, it's very, very rare.
I've been gutting the very offices.
That keeps American families safe.
That was from the hearing today.
That was RFK Jr. handling it, handling it, handing it to Warnock.
It's not just that there's one to three cases, because I think that means requiring injection.
The last fatality from rabies that we ever had in these United States.
My camera is way off here.
Hold on a second.
Let me link this up.
Oh, there we go.
That's a little better.
I think the last fatality that occurred in the United States.
Last fatality from rabies in the U.S. Let me see how many.
I don't think there's a fatality every year.
Six people in the U.S. have died from rabies since September 2024, confirming the disease remains a fatal threat.
According to MMWR CDC reports, two deaths occurred in late 2024, Minnesota and California, linked to bat exposure, with 2025 data showing an ongoing high surgeon fatalities following ignored or unrecognized contact with rabid bats.
Holy crap, I have to know a little more of these cases now.
Unique case in 2021.
An 84 year old Minnesota man died, representing the first U.S. case of rabies despite receiving proper post exposure prophylaxis due to underlying unknown immune deficiency.
Dude, can you imagine coming in contact with a rabid bat and not knowing to go get the rabies vaccine after?
Immune Deficiency Case Details00:15:08
Hold on, something's driving me crazy here.
Let's go like this.
Just a little more people.
Oh, that's nice.
That's nice.
I don't see Chris Martinson in the back yet.
And I hope there hasn't been a misunderstanding, but I do see Robert Barnes in the back.
So, misunderstanding or not, we're still going to have one hell of a show today.
How goes the battle, people?
Viva Fry, former Montreal litigator, turned current Florida Rumbler.
So, people are telling me during the videos that I've been publishing, the segments, that they're not noticing a video quality difference of the camera, which would be very irritating if, after all of the learning new technology and material investment into a better camera, it doesn't look any better on videos.
Now, I'm thinking it might just be the compression.
When editing afterwards and then uploading it, does the stream look better?
Does it look sharper?
Can you see the twinkle and glimmer in my eye?
Do let me know in the chat and we're going to get this thing going.
Robert, sir, come on in because I now tinker with the new Rumble Studio and they have resolved what was an issue in the original iteration of Rumble Studio where the guest would come right in if their camera were on.
Right now, I can now let them into the stage themselves.
And I hope, Robert, Did not accidentally disconnect his camera.
Hold up one second.
Let me just go make sure that he's got it now as well.
And then we're going to get started.
There's some interesting news going around.
Oh, here we go.
I got it.
I got it.
I got prion disease is mad cow or, oh, yeah.
The, um, I just got a text from somebody, the, uh, CJD, the Jacobson disease.
Uh, let me get, let me get Barnes.
We're going to get this thing started here.
Although I don't see Martinson.
Do we, do we go, do I go tag Martinson in a tweet and make sure that he knows we're live?
He's not leaving us hanging.
I think he might have gotten, uh, he might have gotten arrested.
I'm joking.
That's not right.
Here, let's go tag and, uh, waiting on Chris Martinson and, Boom.
Smiley face.
Okay.
And let me just get Robert Barnes in here because we're going to have a show regardless to talk about some stuff that we're going to cover more on Sunday.
Bring yourself on in, smiley face.
I was reading the Southern Poverty Law Center indictment, just tweeting about that before we went live.
And it's interesting.
Read the Shawnee Kirchhoff defamation lawsuit against Steve Baker, Joe Hanneman, and The Blaze.
Also, I've got some interesting observations.
And what else?
The other one there, the Kash Patel, which is already backfiring or back, what is it called?
The defamation lawsuit against the Atlantic, quarter of a billion dollars.
Already, even Fox News saying all that this did is draw more attention to what might be exaggerated claims, but it's called the Streisand effect.
And it seems that the 2026 iteration of it is going to be called the Patel effect.
Sorry, Viva, I'm not that of a person to look into a guy's eyes.
Hold on.
You're doing it right now.
All right, I'm bringing in Barnes.
Let's see what goes on.
Robert, you see, now I brought you in small like.
I'm going to bring you in real big like.
Sir, how goes the battle?
Good, good.
Well, we'll see if Martinson's going to show up.
I DM'd him.
I think it should be good, but he'll pop up in here when he's ready to go.
Until we get into that, I mean, there's no shortage of stuff to talk about.
Robert, I mean, I don't know if we want to walk through the indictment in the Southern Poverty Law Center and flesh out some of these key allegations.
Yeah, I mean, there's that.
There's the fake news today that Mario Knopfle, Piers Morgan, Patrick Bed David are all out there repeating that came from the White House.
Okay.
Well, you know, that was wild.
Let's do that one aspect.
We got some Iran war update.
The other, he may have been thinking 3 30 rather than three.
We'll see.
But yeah, so yeah, we got several different topics to cover until and unless he shows up.
Let's do the first one because you're going hard.
I'm waiting because.
Something tells me that the truth is going to be somewhere in between the overt, I say, one side of the news, the overt denial that it's all fake.
And it's going to be somewhere in the middle, but we're going to go down the rabbit hole.
Trump posted this and says, Very good news.
I have just been informed that the eight women protesters who were going to be executed tonight in Iran will no longer be killed.
Four will be released immediately.
Four will be sentenced to one month in prison.
I very much appreciate that Iran and its leaders respected my request as president and terminated the planned execution.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
We scroll down a little bit.
Then we got Donald John Trump.
This is on truth, saying to the Iranian leaders who will soon be in negotiations with my representatives, I would greatly appreciate the release of these women.
I'm sure they will respect the fact that you did so.
Please do no harm, yada, yada.
This, and it's going back to an original post from Ayal Yacoby.
Now, I didn't bring it up because I'm still forgetting that we're using the new studio and I have to bring it up.
That's the post we're going down the rabbit hole or the thread on this.
I'm saying this just, I'll say it as politely as possible.
Ayal Yacoby's account, I don't know who it is, what it is, has posted.
Objective, factually incorrect stuff, time and time again.
I don't want to name any other accounts where once you get burnt once or twice, not necessarily even retweeting, A.L. Jacoby's account posts fake information, misinformation, disinformation consistently.
And so that was the original post, it seems, that Trump is going back to.
He then posts, you know, please don't kill them.
And now the news of the day is allegedly they're going to be spared.
The only problem is it's not clear if they were ever going to be executed in the first place.
Or there's even some people suggesting that they're not real people.
So, the best of what I've been able to pull up Jacobi's post showing you the photographs of who he claimed the eight women are.
Okay, hold on.
This was one of the first.
You pointed out the first cue that this was not a reliable source of information from the get go.
But if you pull up his post, the other, which a lot of people flagged right away, was the photos.
And ask yourself do these look like Iranian mugshots or do these look like fashion photo shots?
Well, now the thing is this.
Robert, we're in the post-information era.
Like, okay, so this is a.
The impact is he doesn't source anything.
So here's a guy that has a long history of making stuff up, that he's a Mossad cutout.
He may actually be a student in the US, but he's basically been a Mossad cutout, spreading pro-Israeli news and anti- anybody that's critical of Israel, fake news about that.
The second, so that was flag one, was just that he's the source.
Two is that he doesn't source anything.
There's literally no source anywhere.
There's plenty of human rights organizations that track Iran.
Including deeply anti Iranian organizations.
He doesn't source any of them, doesn't source a newspaper, doesn't source a legal document, sources nothing.
And then he attaches photos, not names, by the way.
Notice there's no names here.
Instead, it's eight photos, and they all look like fashion shoot photos.
People start asking Grok, do these look like AI photos?
And Grok's answer was, yeah, it kind of looks like AI photos.
The people that cover Iran on a regular basis made an inquiry, and Iran came back and they said, there's no women facing execution currently.
We have no idea what this is.
And so Trump runs with Jacoby's fake news tweet.
And basically, it's I put out a post.
I want to thank the president.
He saved the lives of at least 18 incubator babies today that were just about to be killed in Tehran.
For those that don't, there'll be some Trump tards swallowing the slop.
That's right, Barnes.
See how great a job he is doing?
Not realizing it's a reference to the Iraq War I lies.
No, but the problem is the harder you go, the more people are going to go hard on you if it turns out there's any element of truth to it.
What I've been able to Surmise.
I mean, first of all, it's referenced in the Hidden Danistu Times, which is another news outlet, and I'll put it in quotes.
Don't rely on it.
That's famous.
It's famous for fake news.
But the reality of the situation might be somewhere in between, where apparently they might have been, there are some of them that have been arrested during the protests.
They weren't necessarily slated for execution tonight.
So some of them might turn out to be real.
So none of these photos appear to be real.
The story isn't real.
His sourcing isn't real.
What it is, is have there been women arrested related to the protest from the Iran says were riots?
In January, which by the way, Trump keeps giving away that that's what they were regime change, coup, riots.
The other day on CNBC said this war's been going on five months.
And everybody's like, well, what are you talking about?
Well, listen to Scott Besson's disclosures before Congress about what we're up to.
So, but there are a bunch of people that were arrested, thousands of people that were arrested, including women back then.
But the people that have been tracking it said that to the degree these women were supposed to be referring to a particular group of eight, half of them were already released.
Several of them, none of them faced the death penalty.
And some served short sentences.
What is, is Trump took that piece of confirmation from Iran that, oh, by the way, if you're talking about these people, these people aren't facing the death penalty.
Many of them were bailed out.
Several of them served short sentences and took credit for it as if he created it.
So, what is this fake problem, fake solution, fake credit, rinse, repeat?
That's what he's doing.
I'm going to highlight this for everybody.
I'm not relying on Grok's results as authoritative.
If you're doing this in real time, I'll show you how I do it and then hope to fall on the best and most accurate information.
Grok's answer, for what it's worth, is no, the women shown in this.
Ix post are not real.
The portraits are AI generated.
I don't trust it because Grok misidentifies photos all the time.
Post by AL Jacobi features a collage of eight stylized uniform headshots of women with heavy makeup, perfect skin, yada, yada, yada.
They do not match the.
That was the giveaway right away.
These were not mugshots and were probably not a credible story.
What's amazing is how every.
Patrick Bed David ran with this story as if it was absolutely no questions.
Piers Morgan ran with it as if there was absolutely no questions.
A bunch of people in the independent media space have.
Mario Nothwall.
Rin with it as if it was just no question.
Even with this story, Glenn Greenwald flagged this right away.
This is likely fake news.
Drop site news has been covering this in great detail.
Likely fake news.
A range of people pointed out that the photos appear to be not the mugshots.
Where are the names?
Where are the cases?
Where's the reference point?
Where are the human rights organizations involved?
There were huge red flags here.
But the number, I mean, I'll give it a different example.
I put up, I mentioned last night on the bourbon, and then, you know, posted today that a bunch of ships are getting through, a bunch of Iranian oil carrying ships are getting through.
And the response, even on some member of the locals board, well, that's fake news.
There's no ships getting through.
You're just making that up.
It's like, dude, it's a major organization, company that all it does is track this information.
It's a heavily funded London based business that you pay a big subscription for that tracks all of this around the world.
And it was in the Financial Times.
These people didn't know it.
If it's not, if Trump, if there's two threat filters now in the sort of certain parts of Trump world.
If it's not on Fox News and Trump didn't say it personally, and it's not an influencer repeating Fox News, it's fake news.
They respond to that now almost reflexively.
And it's true news if those people report it.
Even the latest one, Jesse Waters, the IRGC took the Ayatollah captive and they're hiding him, and that's why they can't get a deal.
Totally made up news.
And the second part is if it's pro Trump, how do you deal with a longtime pro Trump source saying something that you don't want to hear about Trump?
Or that may be interpreted negatively about Trump.
Now, all of those people are fake.
So now the only reliable people are are you saying something that makes Trump look good?
Then it's true.
Are you saying something that makes Trump not look good?
Oh, it's totally fake.
Robert, here, we got a funny one.
Let me just get to the link.
How much did you guys make for the SPLC?
I mean, here, this one right here, Tywire, it's very funny.
And this one's not from anyone who's been around the channel for a long time because it doesn't have a badge or whatever.
And accusing us of being on the SPLC payroll.
The irony is that you dumbass, to the extent we are not and never will be, you might want to just.
I've been at war with the SP, Southern Poverty Law Center, for 20 plus years with Morris Dees.
Now, that's a good.
So I just wanted to cover that at the top.
It's wild watching people just recycle whatever is out there.
And granted, there's tons of garbage and propaganda and filtering.
Obviously, both governments have a massive motivation to lie.
You know, when Iran takes out a base, they claim they take out 224 soldiers or whatever.
When one of our planes goes down, we pretend it's friendly fire or it falls from the sky.
It's just watching it in live time when you have like the modern.
So it's just surreal.
I mean, we've watched it for years.
But I was a kid, I was 17 years old.
They did the incubator baby story.
They brought that fake witness who was actually the daughter of the Quadi ambassador in.
And I was 17.
And, you know, I mean, granted, maybe I was already listening to Alex Jones a little.
I was like, eh, this kind of sounds kind of fake.
But I'm shocked to watch in live time on all sides, people believe.
Whatever nonsense and gibberish is out there.
God bless Trump.
I mean, for jumping on it, because he realizes he can just repeat whatever he wants, and his base will just regurgitate it, even if it contradicts itself within the same day, within 24 hours.
So, you know, we'll see what happens.
But yeah, that's a good transition into another fake organization that it was one of the all time great grifts.
Not great in a morally good way, but I mean old school grifts.
The Southern Poverty Law Center.
That people still don't know the origins of.
They haven't watched enough of the hush hushes at viva barnslaw.locals.com.
Because if they had, they could have watched the Oklahoma City one.
Guess who makes a cameo appearance in the Oklahoma City hush hush?
Well, the one and only Southern Poverty Law Center that helped orchestrate it.
We said at the time, maybe Charlottesville might have had some infiltrators and instigators and informants.
Well, they're right in the indictment.
So that's a good transition into exposing a fake organization that creates.
The fire raises money to create the fire, then creates money on the backside.
But the, oh, yeah, here's the good quoting incubator.
Southern Poverty Law Origins00:08:26
Don't worry, everybody.
President Trump saved the baby.
We wanted to help as well.
I was the youngest volunteer.
The other women were from 20 to 30 years old.
While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers coming to the hospital with guns.
They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the children to die on the cold floor.
Robert, this woman was the daughter of some Iraqi government official.
Wait, the official.
Yes.
The whole thing was fake.
She was fake.
Everybody in Congress knew it was fake, but the media propagandized it.
And I, as a kid, got back, you know, these old, these BoomerCon types of the time.
Like, how dare you insult them?
Oh, man, you're just a baby killing lover.
And I'm like, no, you're just a sucker for propaganda.
What drives me crazy is I just don't understand how, like, the same people who were all not even be critical of everything, just be skeptical of anything, the same people who were skeptical after COVID now don't, and I don't even question it.
And I appreciate, like, people are just so desperate for good news.
You don't feel bad repeating this.
You know, sparing eight Iranian women from execution because it's good news and you want to share good news, and we all want and need good news, but zero skepticism.
I'm not going to go as hard as you.
You know, we've had him on, Brett Thompson, San Diego Fun, cool guy.
He bought into this right away.
And I was like, dude, I mean, you've got to start showing some discretion.
We'll tell you this is obvious.
Everybody wants to comment.
Nobody wants to not comment on something.
So everybody wants to comment right away.
I guess you want eight girls killed, don't you, Barnes?
You just like them all getting killed.
You're just hanging out with the mullahs, getting their money.
Folks, it's fake news.
It's fake news.
Well, the real fake solution to a fake problem that he took fake credit for.
And everybody, I had a needle on Patrick Bent David.
I was like, yeah, it's almost as fake as that MLM business he used to run.
But I mean, come on, folks.
But I mean, they're in these rabbit holes.
I've talked about it before.
Mutual friends, well, using friends a little bit loosely, but that believed stuff that they thought none of the bases got hit.
Think Iraq, Iran is the one that's being indiscriminate and only hitting civilian places.
I mean, they just believe all these things.
The people that thought last Friday that the peace deal had been signed, that Iran had capitulated, that believed it on Sunday because Trump repeated on Sunday.
He said, We're going to sign it on Monday.
It's like, folks, he's just making this up.
It is wild that the.
I don't know if you saw the fight that I got into with Razor Fist, Robert.
Did you see that on Twitter?
No, no.
I mean, Razor Fist.
Hey, Razor Fist, when did John McCain come and occupy your body?
What happened to you, bro?
He just got some deep in the game or lost some game.
That John McCain's soul had to come and inhabit you.
He's become baby McCain.
No, I forget.
I don't know if he's going to raise your fist.
I mean, he got fisted by John McCain.
He reposted something in response to Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, I'm not calling Butler a hoax, but there's a lot of questions that remain unanswered that need to be answered.
And then I appreciate when someone says, I'm not calling it a hoax, but the expectation you're saying, but it's a hoax.
But that's not at all what I understood that she was saying.
She's saying, I'm not calling it a hoax, but there are questions that need to be answered.
And then he goes hogwild on her, calls her a traitor, whatever.
And I was like, Razor, this is what you posted in the same month, and you had a bunch of good questions.
Why was CNN there live streaming in person for the first time ever in HD, HQ, whatever, at the front of it?
I was like, did you get satisfactory answers for those things?
And then he comes back to say that I've been gargling Steve Bannon's balls.
And then I said, I've been ragging against Bannon since the Epstein disclosures came out.
And here are the tweets.
And that was it.
I mean, I just said, now I know that you're either ignorant or you're an actual bad faith actor spreading disinformation.
And for what?
It's like, I feel like some of these accounts.
Have been taken over or co opted, maybe bought.
There's words on the street that Juanita Broderick's ex account was bought, and it would make sense to.
Oh, yeah.
The tone difference is.
Yeah, that's the thing.
The tone, it goes into reposting viral shit.
This is not Juanita Broderick's ex account.
Bottom line, I just would go a little easier than you because if it turns out that four of the eight women are real, well, then people are going to come back and say, Barnes, you're too skeptical.
Well, the four of them are real and are facing execution.
Again, Just source it.
I mean, that's all it requires.
But I even predicted Trump's post before he put it.
It's like, good news is Iran can give Trump a big win by not executing the women that they weren't going to execute anyway.
And then an hour later, Trump, hey, guess what?
I was like, to watch this at Live Time is, I mean, it's tricking the most sophisticated market makers in the world.
It is bizarre.
But it is the conditioning effect of social media.
People want to have a hot take.
They want to be first with the hot take.
They want to share bad news, but they also want to share good news.
And They want to be loyal and they don't want to be called all sorts of names for being mildly skeptical, and that conditions people to.
Regurgitate rubbish.
I'm accused of being a liberal and a Democrat in a Biden supporter every day, which is so funny.
Now, let's get to the SPLC, the Southern.
Ah, yes, another fake organization that is spreading fake news with one of the all time grifts in American NGO history.
We're going to, let me bring it back out just so that we can actually give the W to the DOJ.
I don't know how long they were working on this indictment for.
I mean, it's not something they threw together at the last minute.
The question is why.
Yeah, no, it was Northern District of Alabama that had been working on this for quite some time.
Now, the question is the acting U.S. attorney down there is pretty good.
And there's a lot of people that had a personal, professional payback time to SPLC.
Also, they knew just what a scam SPLC had long been.
Well, the question's this I mean, the timing is bizarre.
Pam Bondi is ousted a couple of weeks ago, and we start seeing movement.
What would have been Pam Bondi's influence or impediment to this indictment getting approved by a grand jury?
Well, she could have negated it.
She could have negated them bringing it to the grand jury.
Okay, now the question is Did she, or was this brought before she left?
And the timing is just totally coincidental.
Irrelevant.
Doesn't matter.
I read the indictment.
It's interesting.
I would have, you know, I would love for these things to be fleshed out a little more.
I'll pull up the indictment in a second, but this is a W for the administration.
You know why there are certain aspects they couldn't flesh out more?
Because of who's.
You know who else was neck deep in the SPLC's fraud that they're identifying here?
I asked Grok to give me possible names Robert, whom?
I don't want to name names because that would be accusatory.
And you're going to hypothesize.
Well, the advantage here is it's the agency that took credit for the indictment.
That's why the FBI can't include.
All the details and flesh it out because these were FBI informants as well.
They were on the FBI payroll at the same time.
I was going to say CIA because that was actually one of the main.
There's a little bit of that too, but this was all more FBI.
It was all the way back.
In fact, people can look up Hush Hush, another Hush Hush I have about this called Operation PatCon.
It's part of the Oklahoma City Hush Hush in particular, or series, at vivabarnslaw.locals.com.
But people can just Google and look up, go to Operation PatCon, go to the FBI archives at FOIA archives where a lot of that information is up.
And the Operation Pac-Con was started after the end of the Cold War because they were nervous.
The FBI was, how are we going to justify our big budgets now?
Now that there's no commies to be worried about hanging around the corner or infiltrating the government.
Usually the commies were over in the FBI and the CIA, but putting that aside for the moment, how are we going to keep people with supporting the security state?
And they came up with Operation Pac-Con, which was to infiltrate and in some cases create fake patriot militia movements in the early 1990s.
Yeah, PatCon was what was it?
Patriot conservative was the patriotic conservative, something along those lines.
But then, what's the difference between Operation PatCon and Operation the one I always reference, and now I forgot it?
Infiltrating to cause strife.
It had con.
Oh, that goes all the way back to the 19th century.
That's COINTELPRO.
Run by Mark Felt, who was Deep Throat, by the way.
His ultimate coup, his ultimate COINTELPRO success, was getting the impeachment of the president who had removed him from control of the FBI that he thought he was going to inherit after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.
COINTELPRO and Infiltration History00:15:09
So that's a little background on that side.
But first, a little background for those people who don't know the history of Southern Poverty Law Center.
I began researching them aggressively when I was in college because I thought, hey, I mean, I want to go to law school.
I want to be involved in law and politics, make a difference.
Well, you know, it came from the populist tradition that, you know, on paper, that's what Southern Poverty Law Center was all about.
And as I researched them, I discovered first, they almost do nothing about the South at all, second, they really do nothing about poverty at all.
Third, they really don't do much law work at all.
So it's like you're the Southern Poverty Law Center that's not about the South, not about poverty, not about law.
Then I researched the founder.
And I'd also, at the time, I happened to come across his name in a separate capacity because I was doing a history project on the history and the psychology of the Ku Klux Klan.
I was trying to research was the Ku Klux Klan motivated by an ideological racial bias and prejudice, or was it based on psychological traits of career criminals looking for a political pretext to act out their psychopathy?
Because I was finding in the files, Leaders of the clan, particularly the most violent members, overwhelmingly were wife beaters, child abusers, petter ass, pedophiles, serial cheaters, all that kind of thing.
And I was like, huh, I'm starting to think this wasn't because they watched Birth of a Nation and read some race book.
This was because they were just criminals looking to act out their criminality.
And someone came along and said, here's your excuse for it.
But in the capacity of that, came across a lawyer who was a key Klan lawyer, key Klan advocate.
And at the same time, I'm researching the Southern Poverty Law Center, thinking initially they would be a resistance to these kind of groups because they took credit for taking down and bankrupting the Klan, and discovered that the founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Was a major Klan lawyer before that.
Morris Dees used to raise all kinds of money to help the Ku Klux Klan.
Then he realized, late 60s, early 70s hey, this grift is running out of gas.
Not enough racists around to line the pockets.
But what if I go up to a bunch of nice old Jewish ladies in New York City and say, I know how to take on the Klan?
I bet I can sucker them into funding me.
And by golly, he was dead on accurate.
And he shook down more money from little old Jewish grandmas in New York City who thought they were.
Huey was out there stopping the next coming of the Nazis right around the corner.
Well, so Joseph Levin Jr. is also one of the founders.
He's Jewish.
Morris Dees is not Jewish.
There are a lot of Dees Nuts jokes that I'm going to make with Morris Dees.
But were they equal co founders between Levin or Levin?
Dees was the main founder.
And Levin was the help with the money.
So then they go up to New York.
How do you come in as a southerner to pitch a bunch of little old Jewish ladies in New York City to give you a bunch of money when you've been a Klan lawyer?
Most of your career.
Dude was a pure grifter, pure grifter.
But they got going.
Now, the problem became by the 80s when these race organizations was just some loser hanging out in a trailer park sending a newsletter to a bunch of schmucks.
How do you keep making money from these guys?
Well, you helped create them.
And then along came Operation Pac-Con.
And that was the gift of all gifts.
And SPLC became the cutout for the FBI to run Operation Pac-Con, whereby they would use informants and infiltrators and instigators.
Oklahoma City was a SPLC operation, if you dig into the heart of it.
Charlottesville was an SPLC operation, if you dig into the heart of it.
Here, what the key was how do you keep people scared?
It's kind of like what the military industrial complex did at the end of the movie in the book Russia House.
They said, How do you sell an arms race when the only jerk you're racing against is yourself?
You've got to pretend that the other side is really building, it's really coming for you.
It was the point of Michel Foucault.
You know, I disagree with a lot of Foucault's philosophy, but Foucault's analysis was often dead on.
He said, Well, how do you create a Security state or a police state?
Why do we have these systems of justice that aren't consistent with world history over civilizations for how you deal with crime, for example?
Said, well, how do you get people to feel good about police running down in your neighborhood every night?
How do you feel good about the state putting its presence of armed force in front of you every single day?
Oh, you make something else you're more scared of a permanent criminal class.
That's why our juvenile and criminal system is designed to create a permanent criminal class.
I mean, who came up with the idea?
Let's take a bunch of criminals.
And put them together and let them live together for 10 years.
Right.
I mean, that's a guarantee to create a permanent criminal class.
Same with the military security state.
How do you justify it?
How do you rationalize it?
You got to create a scarier enemy.
Some scary Islamist terrorists are coming for you next door.
You know, that kind of thing.
You know, that the show's like 24 for.
Well, SPLC was just a different variation of that.
It was one, you know, we need this big FBI because those conservatives out there putting their guns together, hanging out at those warehouses on a Saturday night, they're coming to blow some stuff up, everybody.
They're coming for the revolution.
So, and then how do you scare the Jewish grandmas to keep writing those big fat checks in Manhattan and Beverly Hills?
You say the Nazis are coming.
They're right around the corner.
They're right underneath the hood.
They may be your local postman.
Don't worry, write a check to us and we'll make sure.
And they helped create it.
They helped put people on the payroll to start race baiting organizations.
And they would commit crimes.
They paid them to commit crimes.
And in the process, of course, you got to hide the money trail.
So they created fake entities with bogus bank accounts in all kinds of jurisdictions and places everywhere.
So it was like scam on top of scam on top of scam.
But of course, what is this?
It's money laundering.
It's wire fraud because they said, give us money to stop racial crime, to stop racial hate groups.
And then they started racial hate groups and they funded race based crime.
So it's an indictment that is long overdue.
And that's when they weren't busy chasing skirts around the office, which was their other favorite thing to do.
It was like our labor secretary, you know, when she wasn't drinking under the table, she was chasing.
Tail around the table.
Well, Robin, I mean, we won't go through the entire thing, but I got a couple of follow up questions.
The bottom line idea is that they were fraudulently misrepresenting what they needed funds for and what they were using funds for ultimately.
The amazing thing about all this is that they're paying, they call them informants.
I mean, you know, the SPLC is going to say those were not agitators.
They were informants.
We needed to entice them to give us information about their hate networks.
They were, they called them, what do they call them?
Field agents.
No, they didn't call them field agents.
It was an F, the Fs.
I forget what they, hold on one second.
Field sources.
They are going to say, and you know that they're going to say this because the Dems are already out saying it.
They were informants.
They were the moles.
They were passing the information on.
They were actually the ones being financed, were the ones putting up the hate posts, managing the websites, organizing the events, coming up with the ideas, committing the crimes.
In some cases, they literally started the organization.
And they couldn't get the money to them without concealing it because they didn't want, I presume, this is not a case of we build the wall where the donors would be like, I knew what I was giving to and I didn't care.
This is they knew that they would care.
And so they had to create these.
Shell companies that they would put the money into, from which that money would go to whichever field sources that they had.
And what I learned-Totally fictitious and fabricated.
They committed bank fraud in the middle of this because they would file, like, you know, what was some of the.
Now, what's that first thing?
What have I always told people how the CIA operates?
It's called the Center Investigative Agency.
It was an inside joke.
That's how you always do it.
You come up with something, and then a lot of the others, but like photography, there was no photography business.
Technology, there was.
Now, what did they do in the process of that?
They lied to the bank about what business they're in.
And to me, that's bank fraud.
Because it avoids the due diligence.
These weren't writers.
These weren't rare book dealers.
These weren't tech companies.
These weren't plumbing companies, but they created these fake cutouts.
I've been trying to tell people for years, you know, that half to two thirds of your leaders in the race hate movements are on the federal payroll one way, shape, or form or another.
And this is an old scam.
You know who talks about it a lot?
It's in James Elroy's American Tabloid Trilogy about how a lot of like, remember, the Crips is named after a revolutionary organization.
That's what Crips actually means.
Black Panthers, same thing.
It's, you know, they decide, oh, okay, we're not a gang.
No, no, we're a racial pride organization.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The Aryan nation is mostly run out of prisons in order to facilitate criminality.
They don't have a sincere bone in their body.
Robert, there was a question in hypothesizing as to an individual specifically on the Unite the Right who was the paid informant.
And I think I missed.
It's funny, Grok won't give an answer, and neither will AI, because I think it might be deemed like, Doxing or whatever.
Do you know who the suspected individual that received $270,000 for the Unite the Right rally might have been?
Yes.
Person identified as he's the guy who organized it, he's the guy who led it.
So look it up.
Gavin McInnes.
I've been trying to tell him that this guy was a former Obama guy.
There are all kinds of cues and clues that this guy was not legit.
He was a Democratic political organizer and he shows up organizing Unite the Right.
All right.
I think I see it.
And he magically, I think he dodged like any criminal liability of any kind somehow.
But look up Gavin McInnes, outs Chris, I think is Chris's first name.
I forget his last name.
I'm terrible at remembering names.
Was it Jason?
Yes, that sounds right.
I don't want to misname anybody.
There was an American neo Nazi white supremacist, anti Semitic conspiracy theorist.
He organized Unite the Right.
Jason Kessler.
I think his last name sounds like Kessler.
That's what the internet seems to be suggesting.
Yes.
And there were.
Longstand look up Jason Kessler, Obama organizer.
That same guy's name, if I got it right.
Yeah, let me see here.
I know there's a C or K somewhere in there.
This is wild.
I mean, now you go back and you just, you read, you go back and read.
The whole world is just an open hush hush.
I'm not sure that I'm inside Jason Keller's hate fueled rise.
So that's the individual there.
At least that's, let's see if he's shocked.
He organized for Obama.
I put the word Obama in there.
Let me see if Obama.
Here we go.
Prominent racists have broken ties with him.
France have also parted ways, saying they don't recognize him from what they once knew as an Obama supporter.
His father, in his first interview, told the Washington Post that he vehemently disapproves of Kessler's actions and has tried to persuade him to stop.
So, Okay, so he's a this guy, Jason Kessler.
You know, I'm always everyone suspects is the unnamed individual that received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the SPLC.
One thing that is known is that Jason Kessler is allegedly a not allegedly, he has been long known to be on the far right, racist, hate spewing, whatever organizing these things.
And then the only question is whether or not he was actually receiving funds from the SPLC.
So the de facto he was a flash of the pan, too.
It's like 2015, he all of a sudden shows up with a lot of this stuff, and then after Unite the right disappears.
So, and apparently made hundreds of thousands of dollars in just a year or two.
So, that tells you what it's interesting.
It was an old school scam.
I try to weigh everything in terms of, you know, potential.
What would be the potentially defamatory statement if it's not sufficiently qualified?
This man is a known racist.
Would it be defamatory to suggest that he's a paid informant?
Does he have a reputation as a known far right extremist racist that would be tarnished if it were revealed, if it were falsely alleged that he were the informant?
He's not a fake racist, he's a real racist.
I'm thinking this out.
Imagine me, SPLC, like Cernovich was like, you know, they help start a fire, then they raise the money to put out the fire.
No, they raise the money to start the fire in the first place.
Then they don't actually even put out the fire, and then they go raise some more money to start another fire.
They say, look at that fire over there after they started it.
We need some more money to put out the fire.
So then they go start another fire someplace else.
Oh, my goodness.
We need more money to put out more fires.
And then they start some more.
I think it's maybe a stupid question.
They're going after the company.
It's a criminal indictment charity.
Southern Poverty Law Center.
Yeah, but who's going to go to jail if this is successful?
I mean, really, it's documenting them, and you can put the charity out of business.
I don't think they've indicted any individuals.
Well, that's what I don't see.
I don't see any individuals.
The goal really is to put Southern Poverty Law Center permanently out of business.
But, I mean, hypothetically, this is criminal wrongdoing of a corporation.
It was signed off by the executives.
You can have the death penalty, it has to dissolve, and all that kind of thing.
And can they use any conviction?
They can close down the charity.
Now, they can always go after individuals connected to this if they want to.
We'll see if they do.
I suspect they won't.
Why not?
I suspect they won't.
Well, because they're focused on the organization, not focused on taking apart the machinery that fuels it.
and finds it.
They're serious, that's where they would go, but they're not.
Well, you go after the individuals who partook in the criminality of the company or the alleged, these have been kicked out in the last five, ten years or so.
You know, too much drunken parties and uh harassing, too much swallow-well behavior.
Uh, they're at the center of a southern power.
If you don't have a fear of God, do you at least have a fear of STDs?
I mean, that's what I don't understand in general.
There might not be a certain president right now, doesn't this thing?
No, I'm not going there.
I'm not going there.
I'm waiting for confirmation again.
Um, okay, so that's the SPLC and um.
Amazing.
Well, we'll see what happens.
It is a big deal.
See, the CIA spooks are going after.
They did a fake story in the New York Times to parallel going after Steve Baker with Claire Locke, that corrupt law firm.
That's what CL stands for.
And Claire Locke, corrupt law firm, is going after Steve Baker for.
Now, I think Baker was like, wait till they see our discovery.
I was like, that's why they're suing.
They want to know what the discovery is to get ahead of in front of the criminal grand jury that might come down the pipe down the road if we ever get any honest criminal investigation of it.
I think that's what they're trying to, and trying to help boost the government's case.
Let's find out what the defense knows before the defense knows it by suing Steve Baker and using the discovery into Baker to see what he's been able to feed the defense team.
I think that's what's going on here.
So that's very interesting.
For those who are new, and we're going to probably, I'm going to put out a dedicated vlog on this as well.
Baker, Hanneman, The Blaze have gotten sued by Shawnee Kirchhoff, care of Claire Locke Law Firm.
I don't know, I don't think they specified an amount, but it's over $75,000.
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It's a 127 page sprawling novella, which I jokingly said reads more like it was drafted to be a defense of the Capitol Police honor as opposed to an actual defamation claim.
And it is interesting because I had tweeted out a while back the fact that they haven't already sued leads me to believe that they simply cannot sue because discovery would be disastrous.
The cynic in me, like, there's a part that says maybe she's actually totally unrelated and it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
I still don't believe that Brian Cole Jr. is the real individual.
Maybe it's just a total coincidence.
The basis of the claim is that Baker, Hanneman, and the Blaze, with actual malice, meaning they knew what they were claiming was false or recklessly disregarded the truth when they put up their expose.
I'm like, whether or not she happens to be totally innocent by happenstance and it's an unfortunate circumstance, to me, there's zero chance they get to the standard of actual malice, even by the allegations of the lawsuit itself, which I've gone through now.
Because when you go through this lawsuit, Robert, and they say that they're trying to throw the ODNI under the bus, and they say, Baker gave a tip to the ODNI.
The ODNI then made this internal memo identifying Kirchhoff that made it to the White House.
And based on that, that made it to the White House, the FBI then raided Kirchhoff's house, helicopters whirling over there, forced her to submit to a polygraph, which even in the allegations of this suit, she failed or was told that she failed.
And I'm like, what you're describing is all the basis of the antithesis of actual malice coming from Baker.
So the ODNI put out an internal memo.
The White House acted upon it.
The FBI thought it was sufficiently serious.
They put her on administrative leave, interrogated her under polygraph, which she failed.
Subsequently, to clear her, to me, it's all like they came down and they said, What do you have?
We need to get rid of this and we need a fabricated defense, in my view.
Then she gets a criminal lawyer who says, She says, I don't know what I was doing on January 5th, the night before January 6th insurrection, where she was there firing less than lethal stuff on the crowd.
She doesn't remember where she was.
And her criminal lawyer, newly appointed, this guy apparently has deep state ties as well, says, Check your phone.
And then she comes across a video of her boyfriend taking off her dog, which was not a puppy, twitching in his sleep.
And you hear her voice in the background.
And after administrative leaving her, deposing her under polygraph, which she fails, the FBI then says, We're satisfied with this alibi.
To me, this is the evidence of the absence of actual malice coming from Baker, where they did their homework and justified all of their not even findings, because they still admitted of a possibility of being wrong.
And I just don't read it any other way.
But now that you mention that, it kind of makes sense that they're going to say, A will frustrate their ability to get anything from us on discovery, and we'll try to get to their sources, find out who their expert on gate analysis was, and we'll know what they know.
Because, for those that don't know, in the criminal justice process, the prosecution is not entitled to discover much information at all from the defense until trial.
So, you can do trial by ambush as a defense.
It's the only tactical edge you have.
You don't have access to the grand jury, only the prosecution does.
So, the prosecution has all these institutional advantages that you don't have as a defense.
The one institutional advantage you have is not having to preview your defense.
So, I suspect the whole prosecution of this black autistic kid.
Is a frame up and a set up to hide the culpability of someone that's currently on the CIA payroll, who I believe did it, the pipe bombs.
So she's trying to facilitate that through her lawyers filing a defamation suit against the investigative journalists who are providing the evidence for the defense that the defense would otherwise be able to keep quiet.
They want to accelerate the discovery so they can find out what that is.
I don't think it's a serious defamation case.
I think they know they could not win this and likely lose on summary judgment.
Definitely like we lose at a jury trial stage.
Eastern District of Virginia, very Democratic leaning, but that's not going to be enough to get him there because the case isn't self evidently political in that way, given it's the Trump administration prosecuting a black autistic kid.
So, this whole thing is, and they know there's a risk of them being subject to discovery.
They know the greater risk is the criminal case, him getting acquitted and people re looking at her as the guilty subject.
If he gets convicted, she's off the hook for forever.
So, that's why the goal is to use, my view is, Use this suit to invade the discovery of Steve Baker, find out what all of his files are, who all of his sources are, what they know about, so they can spoon feed it to the prosecution to try to continue to help rig that case against the black autistic kid.
I think that's what's going on here.
Yeah, and I just want to make sure.
Like, I'm looking at some comments and I want to see if they're from people who are around the channel or not.
And this one is from someone who's not icon in there.
So I don't know if they're new, but this isn't a criminal trial.
It's civil.
Well, that's exactly what we're saying.
On the one hand, it's civil with Sean McCarthy.
This case is civil.
The other case is criminal.
And they may want to.
Two different cases here for those who don't understand.
This is a civil defamation suit, but there's a pending criminal prosecution against the kid that could exonerate her if it goes a certain way or incriminate her if it goes a certain way.
So she's using this parallel civil suit to undermine the defense in the criminal case that could implicate her and exonerate the accused.
It is, by the way, the Frenchie is, I'm sure he's half Frenchie and half Bobcat because the dog is not a lawyer.
Is that your excuse for why the dog is so dumb?
Is Robert, he hasn't run into a window in a while, so he's learning.
Um, and so by the way, just to the question like, this is the nature of the uselessness of trying to have these discussions online with anybody is some of the usual suspects on X are like, Viva, the polygraph is not determinative of guilt.
I'm like, nobody's trying to adjudicate guilt of Shawnee Kirkhoff, especially in the civil suit.
I don't think she's guilty, just for the record.
But they can sue me down here in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Yeah, they ain't gonna tango down here.
Because this whole case is a bogus case.
This case is, they should have left Blaze out of it.
I don't know if Blaze, who lives in the Eastern District of Virginia that that was the jurisdiction?
Is it her?
No, I don't.
She probably does too.
Who is the defendant that lives in Virginia?
I don't know.
It's going to be.
Well, I'm not sure where Baker lives.
I'm not sure where Hannah lives.
Maybe it's Baker.
It might be Baker.
But the issue is when I'm online saying, like, you know, they've got to prove actual malice.
And then you've got Baker coming up.
I got to bring it up.
You got Baker coming out and saying, we did gate analysis.
And then people are like, you can't use gate analysis to convict.
It's like nobody's using gate analysis to convict.
What they're trying to show is that they had reasonable belief and not even reasonable, that it was not.
Actual malice people have used gate analysis to convict them.
That's what I wanted.
That's what I wanted to get at.
So, like, let me just see here.
I want to bring this one up because even in this, in this lawsuit, I put out, pulled out, pulled out some of the highlights.
You got, I wait, Kesky spouse.
What can I not bring up?
Can I not bring up?
Oh, it doesn't seem like I can bring it up when it's in incognito.
Let me just put this up on a standard one because it doesn't look like I can bring up.
Like, you can't bring up screenshots when it's not, when it's in incognito.
Adding here, bring up to the screen, add to stage, and we're here in this.
I pulled out a couple of highlights where you have this is what's alleged.
How do you think she has the money to pay Claire Locke's legal fees?
I'm not asking the questions.
Maybe they're taking it on contingencies because it's such a slam dunk case, Robert.
Somebody else is paying Claire Locke to handle this case, is my hypothesis.
Either that or it's one of their pro bono cases for the greater good.
Or it might be the Capitol Police Department, Robert.
So I don't know if you can read the whole thing and I can bring our screens down, but it says ODNI employees began to draft a memo concerning Baker's investigation.
Unfinished draft of that memo was passed along to officials in the Trump administration, bouncing among agencies and intelligence officials, even making it to the White House.
Eventually, it was shared with the CIA where Kirkhoff worked.
Now, this is the issue.
If it's that serious, it's not like the ODNI gives investigative authority to the FBI.
Maybe they make recommendations, but the FBI then decides to put her on administrative leave and search her house, submit her to a polygraph.
And here, this paragraph 134, which is what I found interesting the search of Ms. Kirkhoff and Mr. Durkheim's home, APM.
One of the agents introduced himself.
A rule that does not typically involve executing search warrants.
Ms. Kirchhoff knew that his presence indicated that the FBI believed this was an extraordinarily sensitive case.
She asked him why he would do all this investigative, investigate, all this to investigate online chatter.
The senior official responded that his orders came from higher up.
This is in their lawsuit, but that Ms. Kirchhoff could clear everything up.
Oh, it's over our faces.
Well, now I can go like this, Robert, and just move us out of the way.
Look at that beautifulness.
So it came from higher up.
And she could clear everything up because she submitted to a polygraph, which she goes on to fail.
Okay, so set that aside.
The other one that I found hilarious this, Robert, I'm going to bring us back down here because I want to.
No, bring us back up.
No, bring us back down here like this.
Oh, yeah, look at this.
It's so nice.
Paragraph 149, where they allege defendants refuse to disclose what software algorithm they use, talking about Hanneman and Baker, because they're not revealing their source of their expert because, you know, things might happen to companies.
Okay, yada, yada, yada.
They did not explain what data set of gates the software used, find, or how it collected them.
On information and belief, Curious because forensic data analysis does not allow for that particular identification of an individual, defendants did not use a scientifically accepted method.
So, what people don't understand right here, for everyone who's been shitting on Gates and not Bill Gates, this implicitly underscores that there is a scientifically acceptable method of Gate that would be not used in substitute of other evidence, but could be used to complement in a criminal case, but that is certainly scientifically valuable and acknowledged.
And this is in their suit.
And I don't know why they're banking so hard on the fact that Baker et al. didn't use proper Gate analysis.
I don't know what they did or didn't do.
And I know they haven't revealed their.
Whoever the expert was that did it, or what the analysis was for obvious reasons.
But now that you say that, Robert, I mean, they're going to use this to try to go after Hanneman and Baker to get the company that did the gait analysis, the methodology.
And if they find out that it's scientifically acceptable, well, there goes actual malice, in my view.
What do you think?
Do you think?
It has anything to do with actually getting recovery.
It has a secondary objective to intimidate the Megyn Kellys of the world, but its primary objective.
Is to get the intel that they have that they now realize they're able to help the defense.
And remember, they were staggering their release of publications to not jeopardize the defense.
So the goal is to get that intel now, get the sourcing now.
Now, Baker's made clear he's never going to disclose the source, that he would rather go to jail than disclose the source.
So that will be one of the early fights in disputes the effort to use a defamation suit to try to breach journalistic.
Protection of sources.
That will be another.
So, this will be a very interesting case to watch.
I think it was a mistake to sue the Blaze, though, because by suing the Blaze and by suing him while he was employed by the Blaze, the insurance counsel is available.
Now, those insurance counsel are not usually the most sophisticated in the world, but it means he doesn't have to pay out of pocket for his own legal defense.
So, it was interesting.
They may have gone that route because they think the law firm is a weaker law firm and they can kind of bulldoze them.
But the downside to it is it doesn't put him at financial jeopardy for his legal defense.
That's interesting.
I thought, I mean, I also thought it was a good way to make sure that the blaze doesn't turn.
And I don't know how you could get a settlement out of the blaze that leaves Hanneman and Baker still on the hook.
I'm not even sure what they stand to get out of any of these parties.
I don't know what the blaze is worth.
They're not going to get a $750 million settlement out of the blaze like they got out of the Fox.
This is not about money.
This is about the cover up, facilitating and enabling the cover up.
And the Claire Locke's appearance is a giveaway of deep state ties.
Because those don't know, Claire Locke was the Dominion law firm, deep, deep state ties.
I've dealt with them before in some other contexts where they went around pretending to be independent experts on Fox News, saying that the Covington kids had no right to legal relief by making legal claims that, in fact, had not been adjudicated in the courts that we were currently present before in order to run cover for clients they didn't disclose were their clients.
So, this is who they are.
They're intellectually not that skilled.
They're also the law firm that sued on behalf of the Macrons against Candace Owens.
But yeah, that'll be an interesting suit.
Obviously, SPLC, very interesting indictment.
I think we'll have a packed Sunday.
I know, I know.
We've got a half dozen very interesting cases.
We've got cash.
And I think SCOTA is supposed to come down with more decisions this week, I think.
Ginger Ninja says, I'm guessing Claire Locke is planning on getting $250 million from The Atlantic.
It won't work.
Who is, now that you mention it?
Look at who owns The Atlantic, it is deeply tied in to a bunch of deep state operators, including the Epstein files.
Yep.
It is still the same woman that was in the picture with Ghislaine Maxwell.
I'll see if I can pull up that picture.
But now that you mentioned, I'm not sure that Claire Locke is representing Kash Patel in his civil suit.
I'm going to go see who that was.
I need to tell them.
It's Jesse Bennell, that guy that had all those failed lawsuits for Devin Nunes.
That's who Cash has running his foundation, I believe.
Okay.
And that guy, I don't think he's ever won a defamation case.
Well, back in the day, I was a little optimistic of Devin Nunes' defamation cases back when they were issued.
But then you see how they, you see the outcome and you lose any sort of optimism for those types of claims going forward.
And like, I'm not convinced that Kash Patel's defamation suit is going to go very far.
I'm convinced that this one is not going to go very far by the allegations itself.
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Contradicts the actual malice.
But like you suggest, if there's an ulterior motive, then maybe success and failure are not the main considerations.
Robert, let's get to some of the tip questions.
I guess I just hope Martinson didn't get talked out of coming.
Someone said he's going to be renamed Peak Punctuality.
Something happened, people.
Give him the benefit.
I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go.
Tip questions.
I know that's Chris Craft.
Load more messages.
Hey, away.
Let me refresh this.
Do we see this screen here?
Yes, we do.
Okay, let me go here.
Let me get the tip questions so that we can see them.
All right, here we go.
Oh, I know what somebody wants.
Chien Visage, which is French for dog face, says, Sorry, Viva, I'm not that person to look into, guys.
I just got that.
Chris Kraft says, Robert went full Las Vegas Barnes this morning on Alex Jones.
What's Las Vegas Barnes?
Yeah, more aggressive, I think.
And then we got Rustang says, So many podcasters are befuddled by fake news posts.
Thank goodness for Barnes helping navigate us through the goofball, easily fooled podcasters.
No, but it's like, I was having a discussion with someone.
If they want to mention it in the chat, they can.
You just need to operate from a default perspective that what you're reading is false.
Even if you're reading it.
Try to source it, try to look at does that sound credible on its own face?
And try to get as much independent corroboration as you can.
And sometimes you're going to get stuck speculating.
I'll share both sides of what the speculation is on my X feed, and then I'll get accused of sharing the speculation.
I include whatever Trump is saying, include whatever Iran is saying.
But so far, Iran has honestly been more honest than Trump has during a lot of this.
So whenever Trump says, got a deal, they totally folded.
And when Iran says no, it turns out no, it was no.
So that's just reality of where we're at.
Chris Kraft says, for Bill Brown 2's Save the Iranian Beauties jar.
Francis Charton says, not that I'm a fan of cannabis.
That was another giveaway, by the way.
What's the likelihood all eight women arrested are pretty?
You know, I'm just being honest.
Well, I thought they were athletes.
God bless the Persians, but, you know, it's like the Swedes or something where, you know, 90% chance you got beauty attached.
Especially the kind of people that get arrested.
They don't tend to be the prettiest.
They don't tend to all look like moms.
If these were athletes and models and, I don't know, whatever, chess masters, but I know, it's sick.
I think it's, Everybody wants to comment.
That's the bottom line.
And then they just don't care.
They get their foot in their mouth and then that's it.
Chatelain says, Not that I'm a fan of Candace, but how close to the truth is calling Loomer a top advisor to Trump?
I don't want to get into the rumors on this.
No, no, no, not top.
You got to think the other direction.
I'm not getting involved with it.
This, too, I will wait for confirmation.
These were stories where apparently her father is saying that she said something and there's no other independent confirmation.
Well, she's been bragging about it for a couple of years now.
Well, but Milo, you know.
Some reliable sources.
Naive Idiot Dinner Mistake00:02:41
I thought it was BS.
Reached out to a couple of people.
They were like, oh, no, no.
There's people that walked in.
And I was like, oh, no.
I was like, no.
Now I know he's going crazy.
I refuse to believe this.
I'm not going to believe it.
All I can say is, hey, I've gotten drunk.
I don't know about you.
I've gotten toasted, woke up with some surprises in the morning.
I never woke up with no Laura Loomer in the morning.
Even me drunk, I can't make that decision.
Did I ever share the anecdote of what happened to me in Paris in 91?
What, you woke up next to a Laura Loomer?
No, I didn't.
I was like, oh, hey, that would inspire you to go pure sober.
You would never drink again.
Robert, I won't get in trouble for this because there's nothing wrong with this.
I'm an idiot.
This is how I'm a young, naive idiot.
I'm 19, 20 at the time.
I'm literally at a grocery store.
Is this going to be like a crying game story?
No, no, no.
It doesn't even get there.
It's just an embarrassing, I'm an idiot story.
Was it in Animal House when the frat boy saw the dean's wife and was doing some lewd thing with vegetables?
That's not what happened.
But I meet somebody at the grocery store.
I mean, literally in the fruits department.
And I don't know how it happened.
We started talking.
And then she invites me over for dinner.
Now, I'm.
I'm not 1999 people, and I'm an idiot.
I was like, Oh, I'll go over for dinner.
And she was older than me, and I was like, Oh, this is just gonna meet a new person.
Then we go and we have dinner.
And you're talking the French, the French are infamous.
I'm talking the French.
There's zero of it.
It would be so if this person, I don't even remember her, I don't remember what her name was at all.
And it would be so hilarious if this person, I don't know.
But so then we have dinner, and then after dinner, it became clear that she was interested in something that I wasn't like an idiot, didn't even cross the realm of my universe.
I have a number of phobias.
This is not something I do.
And then I had to, like, back out of the apartment.
And I can only imagine how embarrassing it was for all involved.
But, like, no, this is not within the realm of my getting doing things at the office, getting caught.
These are all rumors, and I'm not talking about that particular rumor in particular.
But I don't know what's wrong with people.
I mean, it's like it's the most base of instincts that people seem to have the greatest difficulty of avoiding the temptation.
All that to say, it wasn't an innocent dinner.
The person wanted intimacy that I was not prepared to give.
Oh, it was embarrassing.
And then the other one I'll share.
One day, the other also embarrassing, was not expecting intimacy or expectations of not with my wife.
I married my wife.
Okay, Robert, I'm going to shut my big mouth right now.
What do we got here?
We got that.
USA Now says, I've been middle aged for years.
Middle age starts 23, ends at 70 years, 79 life expectancy.
USA Now says, old age starts at 52.6, means Robert Barnes is a senior citizen.
Oh, Lord.
Middle Age Embarrassing Moments00:06:10
F. Chaton says, there is no way this is pro bono.
Do not do.
No, no, I know.
I'm not.
I'm not.
The other thing is not pro bono.
For a lawsuit that's 127 pages, I just average it's two hours a page.
So you're talking about 250 hours at a reasonable amount $500.
I mean, say $400.
It's designed to dodge a motion to dismiss just by being so long the judge can't read it all.
How does one back out gracefully?
Let me tell you, it wasn't graceful.
It was embarrassing.
And it was as someone was trying to kiss me.
I was like, I got to go.
I got to get up early.
I thought we were just supposed to be playing chess.
We didn't really get into it.
I love this dog.
Look at this.
He's got, he wants, That, huh?
Oh, yeah, look at this.
This is not an oh, yeah.
The thing that's a little gross is he doesn't have a tail and his butt is a little dirty.
Oh, look at this thing.
Uh, he is what name did you guys choose?
We went with Manny because if you look at his face, like Manny Pacquiao, well, we were going with Manny like a manatee because he does look like a manatee.
And if you squish this little thing right here, it makes a little heart.
Look at the little heart.
Oh, but he's so good.
It's impossible.
What do you say?
It's impossible not to love this dog.
I love the other one, he's down there as well.
I'm gonna kiss him to make him feel good, but.
What was I going to do?
Oh, yes, Kash Patel.
Hold on.
Last one here.
And then we'll call it quits.
Robert, okay.
The Atlantic is a rag.
It was probably a hit piece.
There might be 50% truth, 50% not truth.
To sue for a quarter of a billion dollars because someone said you get drunk and you.
To me, it's like rumors.
To say he's a threat to national security is an opinion.
If it turns out that he is partying and then the argument becomes over whether or not he's inebriated, it seems like an absolute.
Stupid lawsuit and a dumb proposition, a losing argument.
Yeah, I was at, what was the Vegas one?
I don't know if they have these names.
Meds, Meds in Vegas and the other one in DC.
I was there, but I wasn't drunk.
And if I was drinking, I wasn't drunk to the point of not being able to do my job.
Losing arguments.
What do you think?
I mean, is this lawsuit intended to try to intimidate the media out of hit pieces or does he seriously think he has a chance?
What do you want?
Oh, it's defense to discourage repetition and to prove it's not true and buy himself some time professionally because he's on the clock.
And the Southern Poverty Law Center indictment came down.
Good timing for him, for sure.
Does he have anything to do with it?
No.
That was all run by the Northern District of Alabama.
Nobody at the DC was involved, as far as I know.
I'm going to impress people with my ability.
Now I'm not even going to make the joke, but everyone will make the joke.
I don't want the soundbite.
When Gadsad admitted that he was approached by Mossad like 30 years ago, it becomes the admission that he's a Mossad agent for the rest of his life.
I can still read Hebrew.
It says, Yom Ha'atma'ut Shamach David Ve'Robert.
Uh, sim sim, is that sim or yom ha'atzmaut?
Is that in Hebrew?
Yeah, and you read it from right to left.
That's that's a yom yom ha'atzmaut, which is I think Independence Day.
Shum, shomea, shemach.
What is it?
Shumer, simra.
Oh, simcha.
So happy Independence Day, David, ve Robert.
That's Robert.
Um, that's good.
That's about it, Robert.
Uh, and we got King of Biltong.
Oh, did I get to be let me bring it up over here?
Let me see now.
Lord, have mercy on Biltong.
I didn't bring up the Biltong.
Did I skip this?
And is there one underneath it?
King of Biltong in the house who says, let me get to it because I can't read that small anymore.
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Ginger Ninja says, I'm just saying cash is funding this suit by Kirchhoff.
You remember how ball.
Ballas Mangino.
I can say it.
Ballas Mangino.
I can say it.
Okay.
The rumors were, or the rumors, it was, I think it was mass.
Yeah, yeah, that he lost his balls when he went to the FBI.
No, apparently, you know, when some people were convinced that Kirchhoff was innocent and before any of them even potentially knew that she had failed the polygraph, someone threatened to fund the lawsuit against Baker AL.
No, well, it's quite clear.
And you don't get to ask this question in discovery, even in the States, right?
Like, I know everyone says, who's paying your legal fees?
It's not a permissible question.
No, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see what happens.
Chris Kraft, we're going to end it on this, and then Robert and I are going to say our proper goodbyes afterwards because I got questions.
But Chris Kraft in the house, Robert.
Let me back myself out before you do it.
Oh, no, this is for you, Viva.
Is it?
Hold on a second.
This is for Viva's Lord Have Mercy.
Hold on a second.
Hold up.
Wait a minute.
Remove.
Remove.
Lord Have Mercy.
Now that you could clip and take to the bank.
All right.
Well, we'll see what happened to Chris Martinson.
Hopefully it comes back.
And I guess, no, after show, I got to take a kid to, I believe he came in here twice.
And I hope it's not.
Oh, we'll be on tomorrow at 10 a.m. Eastern time with the Duran pursuing alternative narratives.
Is Trump pursuing a madman strategy or is he just mad?
Does the bureaucracy deep state run our wars or do presidents have agency?
And the mysterious leader of the Quds unit of Iran that people thought was dead, that people thought was an Israeli rat, is he now alive or is that itself an Iranian psyop to respond to an Israeli psyop?
We'll be exploring those alternative narratives on the Duran live at 10 a.m. Eastern Time tomorrow.
And at some point tomorrow in the early afternoon, we'll be on with Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis discussing the latest in the Iran war.
And I'm laughing at the meme, which is the Spider Man meme.
This is my joke the FBI pointing at the KKK, pointing at the SPLC, pointing at the FBI.
It's funny because it's true, people.
All right.
So, everybody, we'll call it an early show today, and I'll get some exclusive stuff up for locals this afternoon.
Robert, stick around.
I got some questions to ask you.
Everyone else, Godspeed, God bless, and see you tomorrow.