Kayla Pollock, an Ontario mother paralyzed by a Pfizer vaccine and Moderna booster, details her $45 million lawsuit against Moderna and the Canadian government's alleged scrubbing of Vaccine Impact Assistance Program data. Host Viva Fry contrasts this silence with CBC's recent coverage, while discussing the indictment of leaker Courtney Williams for exposing Special Military Unit secrets to Seth Harp. The episode concludes by criticizing media hypocrisy regarding Thomas Massey's Epstein hearing demands versus support for Melania Trump's similar calls, highlighting a broader pattern of selective integrity in journalism. [Automatically generated summary]
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Living With Incomplete Quadriplegia00:07:23
I got vaccinated.
I took my two Pfizers, and then when I went in to take my booster, Pfizer was not available to adults anymore.
They were saving it for kids.
Sometimes I just can't get things because my triceps don't work.
Incomplete quadriplegic means that I have some or fully paralyzed limb, so I can't move anything from the chest down.
One of the worst parts is the isolation and the loneliness.
My name is Kayla Pollock, and this is my story.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I do apologize if that audio was loud.
Being the boomer that I am, couldn't figure out how to lower the volume on an Instagram on desktop.
But I wanted to give the one minute refresher, reminder of everybody, to everybody out there, of Kayla Pollack, who's been on the channel a while back.
I've been covering her story for, is this going on four years now?
2026, five years?
And thinking here, all the things we've covered over the years, and they're referred to Colloquially, as stories, as though you know the story has a beginning, middle, and an end for the viewer, and then the viewer goes on to the next story.
But that story is the life of the person involved in that story, and Kayla Pollock's story is still going on.
Kayla Pollock is an Ontario woman, mother, who active, fit, took two of these Pfizer shots back in the day, and then because the Pfizer booster wasn't available, and because the science was what it was, they told you to mix and match and do whatever the hell, took a Moderna booster.
Got transverse myelitis, was rendered a quadriplegic, was told that it's all in her head, which is effectively what Maddie DeGary, the child who got injured during the FISA trials, was told.
And we've covered her story at length.
And it took just about four years, five years for Canadian legacy media to even touch the story.
And touch they did, I guess.
They covered it.
We're going to go over it in a bit.
But CBC News finally got around to talking about Kayla Pollock's story.
And for those of you who are new to the channel, Viva Fry, former Montreal litigator turned current Florida Rumbler, this is the daily show on Rumble Live, 3 o'clock.
We got Kayla to come back on just to remind everybody that the story that the general public covered, came, and moved on from is Kayla's life story to this day and for the rest of her life.
Kayla, I'm going to bring you on here.
Kayla, how goes the battle?
It's still a battle for sure.
Thanks for having me on again, David.
My pleasure.
I mean, tell us for those who don't remember who you are, what your story was.
We're going to get into a bit of, we're going to refresh everybody's memory about the maids element of this, the euthanasia in Canada, the general issues about healthcare in Canada.
But refresh everybody's memory, tell your story.
We don't need to do it from beginning to end this time again, but let everybody know.
So I was just a healthy, fit, active mom who was working out of school, my son's school, and had a father dying in long term care.
And I believed that the WHO and the CDC and all those places were science.
And that was sort of the belief I had the belief science.
And, you know, I took the COVID vaccine and, you know, to see my father in long term care and to continue my job.
And I ended up becoming quadriplegic after waking up completely paralyzed.
From the neck down at the time.
And I then came out to the media, tried to come out to the media who wanted nothing to do with me.
John from the Canadian Independent did pick up my story.
And once my story got out there to what the people refer to as the fringe media, as you know, things start to circulate highly within that community.
But unfortunately, it's like that bubble where you can't break out of it.
And so once people hear your story, they move on, sort of like you said, to the next story.
But I'm caught living my life.
So instead of offering me the health care I needed three times, I was offered medical assistance in dying as a treatment option, I guess, or I don't know what you call that.
And so I made it my mission to stand up, not literally, but to make sure that people know that not only was I. Paralyzed by my COVID vaccine, which I'm not at all the only one with transverse myelitis, even in Ontario, who's been paralyzed by this.
There's also a firefighter here, and there's multiple, like I have a lot of medical documents that have all been posted online.
I have an audio recording from the neurologist, all these things.
I then filed a $45 million lawsuit against Moderna, the first in North America and only one.
But I also applied to the vaccine injury compensation program because Mr. Trudeau said that if any of us were ever injured by this safe and effective vaccine, we would be financially compensated for the rest of our lives.
And to this day, four years later, I sit here in a wheelchair and there's been no compensation at all.
So, you know, it's amazing.
I'm just trying to find an MSM outlet covering your Moderna lawsuit.
And I'm having trouble even finding any mention.
They don't cover the lawsuit.
It's actually unbelievable.
I've had on your lawyer is still the same lawyer?
Yep.
It's Umar, right?
Yep.
Okay, so it's Umar Sheikh.
I'm almost getting confused between the various lawsuits.
Umar Sheikh, he's your counsel.
You filed a $45 million lawsuit against Moderna.
It's actually, let me just share this because it's Orwellian.
I put in Caleb Pollock Moderna lawsuit.
And nobody met, I think, right down there.
There you go, Dr. Drew, because you've been on Dr. Drew.
Isn't that?
I'm sorry, I said I'm not going to swear.
Effing wild.
It's like an Orwellian black hole.
You're suing Moderna for $45 million.
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, the government managed to get themselves extracted from that lawsuit in the same way they did in Dan Hartman's lawsuit against Pfizer.
I actually didn't go after the government.
We just went right after the pharmaceutical company themselves.
So you're suing them currently for $45 million.
Have they filed a defense in that suit?
They didn't want to file their defense, so we had to force disclosure.
Um, so uh, it's now, I guess you'd know better than me.
You're a lawyer, yeah.
I say, former lawyer, you still know what you're talking about.
Suing Moderna For Forty Five Million00:05:18
I, I know, I know, I would know where to look.
I mean, it's, it's on, uh, you're in Ontario, uh, and I only practiced in Quebec and federally, but back it up to the beginning when you first have your paralysis, you go to the hospital and one of the doctors tells you it's in your head.
Yeah, I can't imagine seething rage is one thing, but like you're physically, physiologically paralyzed.
And he's telling you it's in your head.
He told me that lots of people were coming in and saying that their vaccine had injured them and that I needed a psychiatric consult.
And so I started later on, about a couple hours later, I just developed excruciating pain.
And I never got my psych consult.
I looked up and I asked the nurse, what is she putting in my IV?
And when she told me it was morphine, I knew right away that there was no way that in hell that that doctor thought that it was psychiatric because.
You wouldn't give a screaming psych patient morphine.
That doesn't make any sense.
You just don't do that.
Like, they checked me for COVID, of course, multiple times.
They checked me for drugs and alcohol to see if it was that.
They checked me for, you know, they did some like very basic reflex tests.
And then another doctor came in and he said, Look, I have a friend who's a neurologist.
Sorry, I have a friend who's a radiologist at home right now.
And if you go into the MRI, I will get him to read your.
Results at home right now because I don't think this is in your head.
I think it's really serious.
And I was like, let's go.
So he, you know, I got wheeled up.
They took the MRI, which took a long time with and without contrast.
And there was full blown spinal inflammation that is a known vaccine reaction.
It used to be one in a million that you would get transverse myelitis, but the cases of this happening after COVID vaccine specifically are quite interesting.
So it has been actually studied and There is definitely a correlation there.
So that's not difficult to prove.
There are research papers if people want to look.
But yeah, it's a disease.
Basically, it means that I'm fully paralyzed from the chest down.
I can't pee.
I have to pee in a bag, and you can't poop properly.
And it also means that I'm partially paralyzed in both my arms.
I also had to basically have my son go stay.
Almost permanently with his father because I had to move into a new house that was wheelchair accessible.
And then I basically see my son every other weekend and holidays because now he's old enough.
He's 11 now and he's old enough to do more for himself.
And it's been really hard on our family, obviously.
How many years has it been now?
Four.
So, one doctor tells you it's in your head.
The other one tells you, I know it's, I believe it's from the vaccine.
You have that on recording.
Get to the, I just want to also refresh everyone's memory on the treatment or lack thereof and how it was that the government came in and unsolicited offered you medical assistance in dying, otherwise known as euthanasia.
And in this particular case and many others, I mean, it's nothing shy of state sanctioned murder.
How did they unsolicited offer that to you?
So, I actually went back to the hospital after I was first paralyzed.
And I told them that people weren't showing up for their shifts that were supposed to come and take me out of bed in the morning.
And I couldn't roll over.
I can't do anything for myself.
I can't get dressed.
I can't do anything.
And I'm in a lot of pain because I can still feel my body.
So it wants to move.
And I told them that the people weren't coming for their shifts and I needed health care.
And so I went back to the hospital and said this to them.
And they admitted me to the ward where they take on neurological patients.
And they said, okay, well, We'll have you talk to our social worker.
And at the time, they then said, Well, you know, we don't really have treatments for this.
And, you know, this is going to be your life forever.
And it's very, you know, you're already really depressed.
So have you considered medical assistance in dying?
And at that point in time, I didn't even know I was eligible.
So I was really desperate.
I started filling out the paperwork.
I have records of that.
Actually, I gave them to your brother to hold on to.
And I, I got to the part where it was where it said that you could be euthanized within 90 days, and I thought, Oh my god, I have 90 days to say goodbye to my son.
Do I really want that?
And I literally just stopped filling out the form and dedicated the rest of my life to standing up for the fact that they were offering me this.
And it was three times, so two times at one hospital and one time at another.
Refusing Euthanasia After Ninety Days00:14:43
The injury occurred within days, right, of the vaccine.
It wasn't an extended period of time, within days, yeah.
So they offer you that.
Okay.
You choose not to follow through on it.
It's amazing.
Like, I didn't realize when you say it, it's so Kafka esque, Orwellian, whatever, like Slaughterhouse Five.
Like, I didn't realize I was eligible for the state to put me to death because they can't treat me for the injury that they imposed upon me.
When do you file the lawsuit?
When did you file the lawsuit?
It was two years ago?
Yeah, I filed the lawsuit exactly two years to the date that I was.
So, February 22nd, 2022 is when I became paralyzed.
And I filed the lawsuit February 22nd, 2024.
It was kind of an 11th hour lawyer thing, as you can only imagine.
It's probably like your worst client nightmare.
But my lawyer was able to get it in and everything was good.
So, they didn't toss it out or ask for it to be tossed out based on timelines or statute of limitations.
Statute of limitations, bodily harm in Ontario is two years from the date the injury was discovered.
You file suit.
When did you file for your vaccine injury support program compensation under the then VISP?
So that was six months after my injury.
And about a year later, I finally got a hold of someone who said that they lost my file or that they didn't have my file, which is very common.
If you even just run it through ChatGPT and ask about the mainstream media why they're picking up stories about vaccine injury or what they're doing, it tells you.
It's yeah, I don't even know what to say.
It's I sometimes I just lose my words.
No, no, it's you lose it's it's better than losing, I mean, losing your temper.
Yeah, but it's so six months out, you file the claim a year after you're filing it.
It's a year and a half, you still haven't filed your injury, your injury lawsuit against Moderna.
Correct, you still don't have an answer to this day.
Did you get an answer on your claim?
So I did resubmit, like my claim is in legally submitted, so that I had a paper trail, so it was delivered to them by um courier.
And I basically served them my claim, sort of.
And yeah, I'm still in the discovery where they can't, apparently, this is very common, but they can't get through my medical records, which is really weird to me and makes no sense because, you know what, they have my medical records are all from one hospital.
Where the vaccine injury actually happened is all from one hospital stay.
I was in the hospital for months.
After this happened.
So it's all with one hospital.
So it's not like they're going to 17 different doctors to get my information.
They're going to one source and it's just made up.
Well, in your case, I would pontificate, hypothesize that it's not just made up, but it's deliberate because if they confirm that you were injured, if they confirm that you were injured by the Moderna shot, it will strengthen your lawsuit against Moderna.
In the exact same way, as far as I know, Dan Hartman still hasn't gotten.
An adjudication on the appeal of his son's death from the death of the family.
Apparently, as of the new program, the appeals are no longer valid.
We're going to get to that in a second.
But so this is strategic.
It's not an accident.
And it's not, in my view.
Because if they know who I am, I mean, I've been on the cover of magazines.
I'm in the news now, finally.
It's what I see here, your story headlines.
I mean, they know who I am and they refuse to answer.
It's wild because if they confirm that you're injured, it will at least serve as a piece of evidence in your lawsuit for whatever it's worth, whatever the judge wants.
Same thing for Dan Hartman.
They're deliberately dragging their feet, maliciously so, in the hopes that the worst case scenario, like I'm not even going to be cynical.
You know the expression, it's cheaper to deal with a debt than an injury in Canada.
You know, I think there's also another piece of that that people might want to know about.
And that's like how the litigation actually works behind that.
So, because like the public health agency of Canada is obviously part of the federal government, right?
So, The way that Trudeau set it up in Canada, and the only reason that Dan Hartman and I were able to actually sue is because, as you know, they made it so that if I sue Moderna and win $45 million, Moderna pays me the $45 million, and the taxpayers pay or the government pays Moderna.
So, yes, it would be like a scratch to the stock market on Moderna, and it would be big.
Deal, but the problem is if the public health agency of Canada confirms that I'm vaccine injured, then they're automatically knowing that they're going to have to pay for my lawsuit.
So they're very connected, even just with litigation.
There it is for the I've stressed it or you know fleshed it out in previous streams.
But in America, you got the PrEP Act, which gave legal immunity to the pharma companies.
In Canada, there's no legal immunity, it's a hold harmless in the supply agreement.
Supply, whatever it is, the contract they have with the government.
And it's a hold harmless in that the government will hold harmless Pfizer, Moderna for any and all claims that result from the administration distribution, whatever, of their so called safe and effective jab.
Now, this is where you got in the news.
I say it's like a small miracle in Canada because it's so wild that you look up your Moderna lawsuit and nothing comes up.
The first news that comes up is Dr. Drew covering it.
I know.
And that was, I think that was when you and I did that.
Oh gosh, what, three years ago or something?
Yep.
No, it's like, not that it wasn't a favor to ask of Drew.
He was very, no, but it was just, it was like three years ago.
It's Orwellian and Orwellian to the point now where the news that broke, and I covered it last week, give or take, is that the VISP, the vaccine injury support program, was going so slowly, so corrupt, so incompetent.
They shuttered it and reopened it under a government umbrella.
Now, now it's not an outside, outsourced third party that's doing it, it's the government.
The only problem is apparently they've scrubbed all of the injury data from the VISP and didn't carry it into what's it called now under the government?
I forget.
It's called, just so you know, make this really clear.
We're not, we're no longer vaccine injured.
We're now vaccine impacted.
So it's the vaccine impacted assistance program.
So we're not even injured anymore.
We're just impacted.
Let me read a bit.
No, no, it's like, again, it's like Orwellian newspeak.
You're not injured, you're impacted, and you don't even have to be impacted to be injured.
And if you're injured, you're not necessarily impacted.
Canadian government taking over vaccine injury compensation program.
More than 100, they're going to celebrate how safe it was.
The Federal Public Health Agency is taking over administration of the program that compensates people who've been injured by vaccines.
Month after the Minister of Health, Marjorie Michel, ordered an audit following complaints about its administration.
We can extremely rant.
Just make sure you read that part where it says very rare.
Extremely rare.
Oh, no, they got to highlight it because this is the government funded.
It's very rare.
Like, I'm just, you know, yeah.
But this is what it says.
It says, applications submitted to the old program will transfer to the new one automatically.
Quebec has a separate composite.
Fine.
More than 105 million doses were given out between 2020 and 2023.
The data shows adverse events were extremely rare.
Whatever.
Kayla Pollock, 39, is one of the people who says she was injured by the vaccine.
The Ontario woman says she was athletic and she says she was athletic.
It's not like there's videos and pictures.
Yeah, exactly.
Before getting her COVID 19 booster shot in February, today she's paralyzed from the chest down with limited function of her arms.
She was diagnosed with acute transverse myelitis inflammation of the spinal cord that can cause sudden and irreversible damage.
She applied for compensation in 2022, said her claim has still not been finalized.
She's dealt with multiple caseworkers in that time.
This is you quoting it.
I thought my case would be really simple because it's really severe, she said, but Pollock isn't convinced the government will do a better job.
I think it's very fitting that the April Fools are to take over on April Fool's Day.
So I'm going to come back to it in a second, but.
What is your understanding of what's going to happen to the claims that were under appeal when this went back to the shutdown at the VISP and went back to the vaccine compensation program?
What happens with those appeals?
I heard from actually just today from Carrie Sakamoto, who's also vaccine injured.
She had told me that they had, that she had found that they had given, I guess, if you have appealed, you're not in line anymore unless there's a death or it's very severe.
And that's only some appeals, it's the ones that, of course, that they choose.
So that means they may not choose certain ones to relook at.
I mean, we have no say in this, obviously.
They're not going to pick and choose which appeals, if any, that they pick up.
I'm just going to, it's an AI summary, but at this point, the reality is it's all in the works and nobody knows right now.
It says VISP has been officially renamed the Vaccine Impact Association Program, the VAP.
According to the VAP page frequently asked questions.
Applications or appeals submitted under the vaccine injury support before April 1st have been transferred to the government as part of the vaccine assistance program.
If you applied for this and haven't received the final decision, your application remains active, is now being reviewed under VAP.
You do not need to reapply.
Medical assistant decisions, yada, yada, yada.
If you already say, okay, fine.
There was also, I mean, the thing is this what they say and what the people going through the system are saying are two different things.
My brother tweeted something out.
For those who don't know, my actual blood brother, not a brother from another mother, because we do look While we he looks so wildly different than everyone in the family, we did make the joke that uh he was the mailman's um the mailman's oh, that's me, he's such a good looking guy, but like nobody's got that widow's peak in our family.
Uh, he's got a lot.
What'd your mom say?
Uh, she said no comment, which only added speculation.
I'm joking, I'm joking.
There are pictures of my mother pregnant, and I'm fairly certain there's pictures of her delivering.
It was just like she was pregnant.
All that to say, Lion Advocacy is my actual brother.
And he put out the other day Public Health Agency of Canada took over Vaccine Injury Support Program, VISP, on April 1st.
The VISP domain now redirects to a federal website that calls it the Vaccine Impact Assistance Program, and it has scrubbed all payout and injury statistics truly next level.
I went and tested it as well.
Did you test it on your own?
I did, and I got an email back.
Did you look at it?
No, not that.
It says that they're taking over and it says that they're going to.
I'm just going to look at it.
It says that they're going to be providing us with the quote that I sent you.
I just saw in the chat, Kathy Tenten says he looks just like me, but we behave the same and we're equally immature.
You do not behave the same.
I'm sorry.
No.
No, he's way calmer.
You have ADHD.
I don't think he does.
I'm sorry.
That's just my own personal comment.
If I had a nickel for every time I was told I have ADHD, by gum, I'd have at least a dollar.
You should be rich.
Sorry, Kelly, I cut you off.
What are the things at once?
It says the Public Health Agency of Canada will continue to handle your case with the highest level of care and attention.
It also says that they're going to, if you have any questions, please follow the communications instructions that will be provided.
In other words, have fun getting a hold of us.
None of us have got a hold of them.
Oh, that's what you sent me.
That's why.
That's what I sent you.
Okay, let me see.
I can bring that up.
Let me bring that up so everybody can see it.
I can't even believe it.
I just have no words for it.
They're going to continue to provide me with the same level of care and attention, at least.
Well, no, no.
The thing is, when you sent it to me, it looked like a joke.
Let me go share.
No, it's not a joke.
Share screen window.
And I believe there's nothing in here that's confidential to you.
I think, okay.
I don't believe so.
You're a dear claimant.
Someone's rocking.
Okay.
Please note that effective April 1st, 2026, the public will take over the administration.
PHAC will securely obtain your file directly from Oxaro and will protect your privacy by handling your personal information in strict accordance with the requirements of the Privacy Act.
This measures that for your information only does not require any action on your part.
Going forward, all correspondence, requests, or support related to your case will be managed by the PH, the FAC.
Is it amazing they actually give it these names?
Like, you FAC, you FAC.
Okay.
Get to the FAC.
Sorry.
Thank you for entrusting us with your health concerns.
Like you had any choice.
We are confident that the vaccine injury support program under the Public Health Agency of Canada, FAC, Will continue to handle your case with the highest level of care and attention.
Should you have any questions, please follow the communications instructions that will be provided by the pack.
Fact, uh, sincerely, fack off.
I mean, that's how they should end it.
Uh, oh gosh, like, do they not have at least a child to go over there and say, you know, how people are going to make fun of the acronym if you call it FAC?
Like, in French, a seal is a fuck, and every kid knows you can get away with saying fuck if you just say, I'm just saying seal, so much so that the family guy had a hilarious bit about that.
So, you've got an email saying, just wait, sit down, just wait some more.
I'm already sitting.
It would be funny if it weren't so real and so tragic, Kayla.
It's obscene.
It's bad.
Now, the issue is also that you've got ongoing health issues that are going to be ongoing for the rest of your life.
The ability of a socialized, free healthcare for all is shit healthcare for all.
The Cost Of Ongoing Health Issues00:04:30
What do you need to live and to survive?
I've done everything in my power to, you know, not Elon Musk is answering letters from God at this point in time, but we try to get people on your story so that you can at least raise awareness and crowdfund your own existence.
What are your needs going forward, and what are you doing to try and have people help you meet those needs?
I've got the website link right there that you've got up.
People can always donate there.
It's very simple.
You just go right to that link.
And if you go to the top right corner, there is a donate button.
Sorry, in the middle there.
And it shows exactly.
Now, those donation walls are not.
Up to date, but if you just go down there, like you can see, it's easy, it's very simple.
There's like, let me give everybody the link.
I need to have physiotherapy so that my limbs don't seize up and my bone density is lowering, which means that if I run into something with my wheelchair or someone runs into me, my bones can break easily, or even just moving me.
It's gotten really serious.
I mean, I'm just trying to stay alive as long as I can for my son.
And I just want to be at home while I'm staying alive.
And without people donating, I can't do that.
The last time we spoke, or no, it wasn't the last time, but one of the times, were you able to get a vehicle, a transport vehicle?
I was able to get the vehicle and the dogs behind me.
Okay.
Oh, I want to see.
Okay.
If I whistle, will your dog look?
Yes, probably.
Storm.
Storm.
Hey, Storm.
Look at that.
I just woke my dog up.
Oh, God.
Oh, now he's walking inside me now.
That's fantastic.
So you got a dog.
How old is your dog now?
She is five.
She's a service dog.
That's awesome.
Thanks to people like that helps a lot.
But it also costs money to maintain.
I thought that there, I honestly thought at the time that things would keep rolling in and that there would be enough funds to pay for her dog food and to pay for her grooming and to pay for her vet care.
And that's not even happening anymore.
It just stopped.
Even though it went mainstream.
You know, mainstream media doesn't post that you are in need.
They post the bare minimum, as you can see.
You know, that was probably like a 60 minute interview for three lines with the Canadian press.
I think that's the biggest problem is that people are starting to be aware of it, but they're not aware of how expensive it is just to be in my position.
I keep telling people, especially Canadians, if you tripped over your shoelaces tomorrow, you could be sitting in my chair and you could have to ask your husband or wife if they would stay with you.
You could lose your kids if you weren't with your husband or wife.
I mean, you could lose your house.
I lost everything.
I lost my house, I lost my job.
I lost my body.
I mean, my body's the last thing I think of.
I think of my son.
I just am trying to stay as healthy as possible so that I can live as long as I can for my son.
Because, as much as the Canadian government has deemed me to be a non contributing member of society who deserves to die from medical euthanasia, I still mother my son every single day.
I still give him advice and we talk daily.
And, you know, I'm still, it's like Christopher Reeves was still a father to his kids.
He couldn't move from the neck down, but his kids don't ever talk about him in any way other than what a loving dad he was and how you can teach your kid to ride a bike without physically actually doing it.
It's difficult.
You have to really retrain your brain to think these things.
But I've had to, I was a Premier League soccer goalie.
My son's been interested in soccer.
I had to literally start teaching him how to do goalie kicks and I can't move my legs.
You know, that's it, it becomes a very interesting way to parent, that's for sure.
I just want to stay alive and stay at home with my, like, for my son.
That's all I care about.
Just like bring up the absolute cynicism of all of this.
Fighting Vaccine Hesitancy And Censorship00:03:27
In that article that mentions you, you know, sort of for the amount of what they covered, they got to remind everybody, you know, at the end, we're seeing vaccine hesitancy rise.
We're seeing outbreaks of otherwise vaccine preventable diseases, and the old ways of doing things aren't working.
People are expecting the government to engage with them differently.
This could be, you know, the idea that one of the issues as to why they kept these stories so suppressed is because they didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy at the time of this jab.
And now we know that, you know, this went down under the rubric of malinformation for the purposes of censorship, which is information that's accurate and true, but would be damaging to government narratives.
So government had social media companies do the censorship for them.
It's obscene.
I'm also not going to stop until the government hears me.
I'm not going to stop until I am directly.
Spoken to by the Public Health Agency of Canada or the Health Minister.
I've already petitioned my MP to write a position about MAIDS and about the vaccine, whatever it's called now, in vaccine impacted assistance program.
It's just, I won't stop.
I just am not that type of person.
I'm ADHD too, Viva.
And if I get fixated on something, watch out.
Here I come.
In as much as I can help give you a bigger bullhorn and reach people, although I don't think many people from the Conservative Party are still following me after the offering.
Maybe not me either.
I'll continue to do whatever I can, Kayla.
I'm going to share the link.
I'm going to pin it up there when this process is on X. You are, let me share your handle.
What's your handle on X?
It's at KC Pollock, P O L L O C K. I'm going to give everybody the link there.
They can follow that.
And all your links are going to be in the pinned comment when this is published.
Well, thanks again, David, for having me on.
Anytime, anytime, every time, and we'll stay in touch.
Always.
Thank you.
Okay.
Boggles my heart.
Have a good show.
You too.
Thanks.
Thanks.
So that's it.
That is kick from.
I hate the word kick.
It seems so.
No, that's not what I want to do.
I want to get out of here.
Stop screen.
That's Kayla's story, everybody.
And as much as you can snip, clip, share, tag somebody who you think needs to hear this, like people have moved on from COVID, right?
Not everybody.
I can tell you that I won't sit there every day rage baiting with videos that I want to post on a daily basis, the ones that have changed my chemistry for the rest of my life.
I can think of a few examples, but every time I go and watch the videos of me walking up and down Green Avenue with Winston, because that was my ticket out of curfew, I am filled with a form of rage.
I wouldn't call it seething rage anymore.
It's more like disbelief that that's what happened to society and that people were okay with it at the time and that the people who quietly went along with it just want to forgive and forget to the extent that they're not the ones who are paraplegics now.
We're not done with Canada yet.
And holy shit, I was not going to touch this story.
Like one of my moles up in Canada sent me a DM and, like, there was a link to a lawsuit that came in a draw.
I'll get there in a second.
Let me go see if I missed any.
Oh, I may have missed the super chats because the rumble rants because I didn't put it in here.
Justin Trudeau CP Rumors Explained00:11:47
All right.
Let me go over to vivabarnslaw.locals.com and see what's going on there.
Before we get into the story of the day in Canada, we got a tip question from F. Chartrand says these effers will expense her out of her claim.
Without support, they have all the monies, yeah.
No, that's uh, and they're all working together.
It's the trifecta of censorship and corruption you got government dictating mandates for which they've given effectively immunity, hold harmless to the big pharma companies who now have a vested interest in hiding the dangers of their own product.
The government has an interest in also concealing the dangers of the product that they mandated on the general population, and then they use their CBC propagandists to play down.
And or just totally ignore it is inconceivable, inconceivable that you would not see Kayla Pollock sue Moderna vaccine.
Let that, that this, these are the results.
Metacast seems to have covered it, and that's from Dr. Drew.
I can throw the link there.
And then you go to news like, oh, no, no, surely that July 17, 2025 Visp aims to curb injury lawsuits.
Now people are suing in three problems.
Ah, there we go, we got one here.
Let me see what that looks like actually when we get there.
Now people are suing.
VISP aimed to curb vaccine injury lawsuits.
Now people are suing in three provinces.
Okay, there we go.
Good.
You got one coverage from a year ago.
Oh, Mother Cabrera.
All right, people.
There is a piece of news that is going viral on Twitter, and it alleges it is referencing a lawsuit that alleges that Justin Trudeau had CP on his.
Personal devices, and that an individual brought this to the attention of the Toronto Star, who then subsequently refused to publish the story.
Now, when this story came to me, it was a friend who sent it via DM, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not feeling inclined to dive into that story.
And then when I saw that the link to the purported claim itself was on a Dropbox, I'm like, yeah, I'm not opening up a Dropbox that.
Contains allegedly a lawsuit that pertains to CP and Justin Trudeau.
And then someone sent me the actual, well, my friend sent me the actual PDF, so I didn't have to click on the Dropbox because I ain't clicking on that Dropbox.
And I read through the claim, and you're seeing now a lot of people posting this as though it somehow proves the very dubious, unsubstantiated allegations in the lawsuit and not naming any accounts because I'm not trying to make fun of anybody, retweeting and saying, Justin Trudeau had CP on his phone.
We're going to walk through this a bit.
In fact, we'll walk through it right now before we get into what I think is going on here and what I think is going to happen.
Because this is not going to end well, I don't think, for the individual who filed this in the sense that it's not because you are filing a lawsuit that you get to say anything and everything in that filing while claiming legal immunity, litigation privilege from defamation.
So the reasons for the claim, listen to this, and this is directly from the filing, and I'll.
Not even preface this to cover my own tushy.
I'm just prefacing this because I read what is compelling evidence, what is total lack thereof.
We've heard all of the rumors of Justin Trudeau.
There was a rumor of an inappropriate relationship, potentially allegedly with a student, but the only place that was ever alleged was in an absolute debunked and bunk article out of, I think it was called like the Beaverton something or other, the conservative Beaverton.
It was bunk, although the rumors subsist.
Zero evidence to substantiate it and only unsubstantiated rumors of secretly signed NDAs, yada, yada.
And so I always warn people before you run around saying that, understand the basis or lack thereof of the claim.
I am a Canadian author who became connected with Sophie Gregoire Trudeau in February 2017 after she shared some of my writing on Facebook.
Thereafter, we exchanged hundreds of emails, met once at her request at the Rideau Cottage.
That's Justin Trudeau's fancy home, I think, on the Rideau Canal.
I think, maybe.
Yeah, that's their home.
Once spoke on telephone.
Also at her request, I ultimately made three efforts to disconnect from her September 19, 2020, 2021.
Don't know what that means, but to the extent there's going to be a lawsuit, we'll find out.
As a result of the way in which those attempts to disconnect from her, And their political world were responded to, I felt it necessary to reach out to a number of investigative journalists in Canada media beginning in 2021.
On October 21, 2021, I met with a prominent Toronto star investigative journalist named Robert Cribb to discuss the situation.
We met at the Beaches Library on Queen Street, walked to and along Kew Beach before sitting down together at a picnic table.
During that conversation, I agreed to grant him exclusivity with respect to my story, and he shared some information.
That is fundamental to this claim, something that I found quite disturbing.
He let me know that the Star had recently been told by the RCMP.
Let's flesh this out, people.
He told me, so this guy told the filing person of this claim that the Star had recently been told.
So, not even him at the Star, but the Star, the newspaper, had been told by the RCMP that Justin Trudeau was watching CP on his devices.
He explained the RCMP knew this because it was one of their responsibilities to monitor his phones and computers to ensure that they are not compromised by a foreign power.
This was the first time that a Canadian journalist had shared controversial things with me about political leadership, but it was unique in that they had received the information from law enforcement directly.
Allegedly, they said, according to this guy, this guy says that guy told me that someone gave the star, not even me at the star, the star information allegedly that he was watching CP because they had access to his phones.
We did not get into why the RCMP hadn't brought this information public themselves.
I assume that it was similar to whatever interaction restrictions had been placed on them with respect to the Lavalle affair, but this was just conjecture.
For whatever the reason, they handed this over to the Toronto Star to bring public.
And when the handoff occurred, it became the newspaper's responsibility and duty to share it with Canadians.
That's an interesting legal theory that I don't think holds the slightest bit of water.
Months later, I inquired into whether or not it was going to be made public.
He confirmed that the original source was credible and affirmed that it would be.
What does that say?
Coming, adding where there's smoke, there's fire.
I am using this March 13, 2025, as the applicable initiation date for the claim because it's the date Justin Trudeau.
Whatever.
Let's go down here a little bit.
We got the rest of this here.
Before detailing the torts and damages, I want to clearly lay out why I believe the Toronto Star had an obligation to push the information provided by the RCMP.
This is going to result in someone getting sued, I think.
Maybe even not.
I mean, it's at some point like.
It's not clear who's going to waste time going.
This is what many would feel to be absolute abuse of the legal process to file something for which there's virtually zero, not even zero.
I could say the only virtually existing evidence is this guy saying what somebody else told him about what somebody told him about what they sent to that guy's employer.
But the legal theory is quite interesting.
The responsibility is significantly.
Oh, here.
As for why I'm putting this information public, it's the newspaper's responsibility.
It's a well established fact that a newspaper has an inherent duty to share that which is politically relevant with the public itself.
That doesn't mean they share every detail, every private detail, but it does mean that they surely share those private details and that are laden with criminality.
According to the public interest test, that's not a test that applies to compelled publication, but rather to publication and a justification for it.
The public interest test any other details about abuse of power, wrongdoing, incompetence.
In essence, the media is the bridge between the public.
And the political world.
And it is not for them to sift essential information through a politically convenient filter that protects them from whatever.
I will stop reading here.
I think you get the idea of where this is going.
There was maybe something over here that I wanted to.
Simply put, by not providing this information, both I and many other fellow Canadians ended up in a terrible mess.
And now, with another globalist Carney at the helm, the indicators of happiness are quickly trending downward as things are becoming even more expensive.
Our great country is losing its luster.
I am suing for the maximum of 50,000 in damages possible with respect to the consequence of omitting to share the vital information noted above.
I believe the information was surely in the public interest.
That's not an argument for compelled disclosure by a journalistic entity.
And that the organization has both dishonored the public trust and failed to fulfill its fiduciary duty.
To its readers and the Canadian public.
So I expressed my sentiments on this.
If anybody's sharing that, asserting the accuracy or the truthfulness of the allegations therein, I wouldn't.
This is, if not, you know, not just crossing that line, but spitting on it as you cross it, it's getting very close to, if not crossing the line of abuse of litigation privilege.
Somebody told me.
That somebody told them that the RCMP had information of CP.
And if I were to say that publicly on Twitter, for example, I would get sued for defamation.
That person would get sued for defamation.
But if they say it in a filing, well, then it's litigation privilege.
I'm fairly certain that it will not be covered by litigation privilege.
In Quebec, that's the place I practiced.
I do remember that you have litigation privilege as well.
If you make allegations in good faith based on substantiated or reasonably substantiated evidence, you will generally have litigation privilege.
If you say things that are right, that are embarrassing, that are necessary for the litigation, you're covered.
If you add extraneous allegations that are wholly unrelated to the lawsuit and done solely for the purpose to defame, I'm fairly certain, if my recollection serves me correctly, that that is.
Actionable under Quebec law.
And if you repeat things that are totally unsubstantiated, that you have no basis to even make the claim and think you're going to get protected by litigation privilege because you do it in a small claims, whatever the hell that was, you know, that wasn't small claims, that was 50,000 in Ontario.
I would not have done that as a plaintiff.
I would not have recommended that if that were my client.
And I sure as sugar would not reaffirm that through tweets as some people seem to be doing, even with a question mark Justin Trudeau had CP on his phone.
That's how these BS rumors get started off bogus information.
But that is the interesting story coming out of Canada, since we're on something of a theme of Canadian news today, which comes to an end right now because we're coming back to America.
Let me go see what's going on over in the chat here.
I'm using Studio just because I wasn't sure.
I'm using StreamYard, so I can't bring up the chat as easily as I could if we were in.
Viva, do you think Kayla is.
Oh, Doug Leaf, fan69, says, I thought this was going to be an insulting question.
Do you think that Kayla is worth the same amount as the terrorist Canadian government they paid off?
Debunking LA Confidential Bogus Rumors00:02:51
That was, I'm going to forget his name now, but they gave him $10 million.
That was the child soldier who killed an American soldier.
In a firefight, I think in Afghanistan, and they paid him Omar Kader.
Omar Kader, and they paid him 10 million dollars as a settlement for the abuse that he sustained when he was detained in Guantanamo.
When the Canadian government didn't make an effort to extract him, the Canadian government, uh, you know, they have deep pockets when depending on the politics.
Trudeau is a despicable injector.
Either way, I don't need any more ammo on this clown.
Yeah, it was 10 million, and it was Omar Kader K H A D R.
And let's see what's going on in Viva Barnes Law.
By the way, oh, before I forget.
Viva and Lord Buckley go to the movies tonight.
We are reviewing LA Confidential.
And I felt like, what's the, it felt like the two, the two guys out of, oh, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
The Semitic two in the movie where they're watching the movie where they're trying to see somebody naked and like, I have no idea what the hell's going on in this movie.
I'm watching, I'm watching LA Confidential.
I'm thinking like, I'm getting old or I'm just not able to, Pay attention to follow a movie that's two hours and 17 minutes that has a plot that's quite intricate.
But all that to say, if you don't know, Lord Buckley, Mark Grobert, and I, in addition to being movie buffs, political buffs, now baseball buffs, and friends, we have a channel where we review movies.
So tonight we're doing LA Confidential, and I got to go do a little homework on that.
And this afternoon, I'm going to be on with Dr. Drew, and tomorrow, Going to be on PBD podcast.
So I got a little bit of homework to do, but we're going to cover one story.
Have our after party on locals, Viva Fry, three o'clock daily on Rumble, Viva Barnes Law.
Locals.com.
Still taking flack for a video clip of Barnes and Jones that's gone viral, which really makes me just question everybody's overall ability to understand hyperbolic, almost quasi humor.
And also the ability to hear things they don't like without having hissy fits that reverberate throughout the internet.
I don't even want to talk about it.
It doesn't matter.
F. Shots Hall says, This is the Toronto Star.
This is wild, in my opinion.
I don't get how the lefty rag does this.
What is going on, Viva?
I think the guy is probably of questionable.
He may have issues, and he may think that this is somehow an easy way to defame and put out slanderous allegations without thinking that he's going to get sued for it because of litigation privilege.
LA Confidential is a good movie.
Classified Information Disclosure Allegations00:12:15
Well, I got to, apparently, I got to go now, not say refresh my memory, dive deeply into the real events upon which it was based.
There was the Bloody Christmas incident that was a true story that served as the basis for a scene in the movie.
I'm going to look into all of the interesting ways that they shot the movie, all of the interesting facts about it.
And that's that.
All right, people, stop screen share.
I was on with Benny Johnson this morning talking about.
A number of things, one of which that came up was the arrest of this alleged leaker of allegedly classified information to a journalist between the years 2022 and 2025 from Fort Bragg, which was leaked to this journalist so that he could write a book called, I forget exactly what the book was called, but it was about the inner workings of Fort Bragg.
And just yesterday, I believe, or the day before, the journalist, not the journalist, but the service woman, or the woman at the heart of this former army employee, top secret clearance holder, arrested.
Was arrested for leaking classified information, national defense information, for leaking classified national defense information.
And it's an interesting story where, on the one hand, I'm going to bring this out for one second.
It's sort of, I said, bring that out for one second.
It highlights, I'm not going to say like both sides type thing at all, nor am I going to compare things that are not comparable.
I'm going to highlight the one screen, two films where we lived through it with Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
I think Edward Snowden might have been more of a black and white case where I don't think there were very many people complaining about what Ed Snowden did, although I think maybe there were.
But Julian Assange was a little bit more gray zone.
There were a lot of people who were military men and women who were pissed off with what Julian Assange disclosed.
The, what was it called?
Collateral murder.
He disclosed war crimes allegedly, disclosed war crimes committed by American soldiers.
And while people hailed him as a hero, others hailed him as someone who put American lives at risk.
Compromised national security and vilified him for it.
This case, I mean, I do wonder if there's going to be that same back and forth, but this time it's going to be the left saying that this woman, Courtney Williams, is a hero for revealing corruption or whatever within Fort Bragg.
And now it's the right saying, lock up a leaker or, you know, I say alleged whistleblower.
The allegations seem pretty damning.
I love, by the way, at the end of this, it says, an indictment is merely an allegation.
All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in the court of law.
Thank you.
It is all allegations in the indictment, but by the looks of it, some of the allegations seem to be relatively damning.
FBI arrested Courtney Williams, 40 from North Carolina, yesterday, and a federal grand jury indicted her today.
This is April 8th, so this is yesterday.
In connection with her alleged transmission of classified national defense information to individuals not authorized to receive it, including a journalist.
The journalist we're going to get to in a second.
Clearance holders accept a solemn obligation to protect the classified information entrusted to them, said John A. Eisenberg.
That they do so is critical to the security of our nation.
When clearance holders violate that trust, the National Security Division will act swiftly to hold them accountable.
Here, Courtney Williams swore an oath to safeguard our nation's secrets as an employee supporting a special military unit.
Of the army, but she allegedly betrayed that oath by sharing classified information with a media outlet and putting our nation, our war fighters, and our allies at risk.
This is the claim that's going to require substantiation because it's, I'm not, we don't know exactly what the classified information was.
We know that this journalist wrote a book that had to do with like drugs and stuff going on within Fort Bragg.
So the question is going to be whether or not there's any weight to this or fleshing this out in terms of putting war fighters at risk versus embarrassing potentially the administration for what goes on at Fort Bragg.
We're going to go down here.
This indictment should serve as a stark warning to all current and former clearance holders thinking of violating their positions of trust.
Okay, fine.
The tradecraft tactics technique used by the military unit in this case are classified and should be shared only with those proper clearances.
Okay, that much we go.
According to the court documents, from 2010 to 2016, Williams worked for a special military unit, SMU, until they top secret, sensitive, compartmented information security clearance.
As a clearance holder, Williams received training as to the proper handling, safeguarding, and storage of classified information.
Williams also signed a classified non disclosure agreement, which in part confirmed her understanding that the unauthorized disclosure of classified information could constitute a criminal offense.
In her role at SMU, Williams had daily access to a broad range of classified information.
Here we go.
As alleged in the indictment, between 2022 and 2025, Williams repeatedly communicated with the journalist via telephone and text messages.
During this period, Williams and the journalist had over 10 hours of telephone calls and exchanged more than 180 messages.
In one such message, The journalist identified themselves as a journalist and stated that they sought information about the SMU in support of an upcoming article and book.
After those communications with Williams, the journalist published a book and article that named Williams as a source and attributed specific statements to her.
What kind of I mean, I'm not trying to encourage illegal activity or no, but what kind of idiot is this journalist?
Like, if for all of the articles where you have unnamed sources, what the heck was this guy trying to sabotage her after having gotten the information from her, throw her under the bus and knowing that she's going to go to jail?
We'll see.
I've invited him on for a stream, but I don't know if he saw the tweet yet.
I'll get there.
Some of these statements contained classified national defense information.
In addition to her disclosure to the journalist, Williams also made unauthorized disclosures of national defense information via her social media accounts.
Here, I want to get to this part.
On the day the article and book were published, Williams exchanged several messages with the journalist.
In one such message, Williams stated that she was, quote, concerned about the amount of classified information being disclosed.
This sounds like the journalist published it without even letting her know beforehand.
In a separate message to a third party, Williams added that, quote, I might actually get arrested for disclosing classified information, end quote.
In a subsequent message, Williams cited, cited?
Huh, that's a typo.
You see, I am the master of typos, and yet I can still find them when other people make them.
Williams cityed a statutory provision of the Espionage Act, and when asked how she knew that she may face legal consequences for her disclosures to the journalist, Williams responded, quote, I have known my entire career.
Adding, quote, that they tell you every day, 100 times a day.
Finally, in a message to a different third party, William stated that she was, quote, probably going to jail for life.
The FBI Charlotte field office is investigating the case.
And there's that.
So, those are the factual predicates of this story.
The very interesting part, and I saw Breanna Morello tweet it out earlier today, and then I had the same question for the journalist.
Breanna Morello, awesome journalist.
I believe she's with Infowars.
Let me see something here, just make sure.
Independent journalist, fluent in sarcasm, Newsmax email.
All right, independent newsroom.
She put out a tweet.
This is the guy, by the way.
This is the journalist, Seth Harp.
This is confirmed.
This is public information.
Seth Harp said Courtney Williams is a veteran, a mother, and a patriotic American.
She has committed no crime.
Trump's unhinged DOJ will not even say what classified information she allegedly leaked.
Her arrest and imprisonment is an outrage.
Free Courtney Williams.
Now, I read you this tweet.
And first of all, I mean, I'm not going to say like this is one of those cases where they can't.
They've alleged enough in that.
Summary of the indictment.
This is not like, not to get back to it.
This is not like a Joe Kent where you have anonymous sources saying there's an investigation, the existence of which has not been confirmed, into the alleged disclosure of classified information, the existence of which has never been confirmed nor specified.
This is not like that.
This is fleshed out.
This has gone through some legal process.
This guy's talking like he's not the one who published it.
So I'm taking crazy pills.
Breanna Morello says, wait, Courtney in writing is upset with you for publishing classified information.
She says in texts that you published without her reading it first.
You even added her real name to the report.
How is it Trump's fault?
And I said, Is what Breanna Morello is saying not true?
Mr. Seth, it was my understanding as well that you published classified information that she gave you and that you actually named her.
If you would like to come on to discuss, you have an open invitation.
That is Seth Harp, Esquire, which I take to mean that he's a lawyer.
So I would love to have the discussion.
He doesn't seem to be in trouble because he's not the one who broke any laws by receiving and publishing.
And he might have a better idea as to what the nature of the classified information was.
So don't expect the FBI or the authorities of the DOJ to release it.
This guy already published it.
I mean, I want to go back and see what's in his article and whether or not there's more stuff in there that was communicated that might not be in the article.
But that is the news.
And then it's going to be a question of hold on.
Actually, let me do this.
I want to see this here.
The Seth Harp.
Oh, let's go do it.
I guess we'll do Grok.
Let's see here.
Summarize this.
What allegations?
What?
Were the alleged classified intel that Seth Harp published that Courtney Williams gave him?
Let's just see if they're going to cover this.
But that's what's going on.
And we'll see if we don't get any clarity on that in a second.
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I don't know, I should probably get clear on that.
Here, let's see who here.
Uh, Chief Bob says, I respect your opinion of Barnes, I just don't necessarily agree.
Thank you.
Oh, look, I'll do it before we leave.
Okay, hold on a second, let's just see what the answer was in Grook.
Okay, let's see here.
Courtney Williams.
Okay, the information she allegedly provided.
Okay, this is all the high level stuff.
The alleged classified intel that she ended up in the published work centered on sensitive operational details of Delta Force.
She referred to in the court filing only as Special Military Unit, not just the harassment claims.
Okay, according to the criminal complaint, DOJ statements included specific tactics, techniques, procedures used by the unit, details of her position, duties, work in the unit.
Duties support in support materials.
She allegedly sent Harp.
Yeah, look, innocent until proven guilty.
Um, sufficient, sufficient allegations there to substantiate the claims.
Do we do this?
Oh, we're doing it.
I'm going to do it once and I'm not going to do it again.
Let me see if I can find the clip of Barnes Jones.
I texted at the bar.
I saw that.
I saw on the guy, Scott Jennings on CNN.
Here, I'm going to play the whole thing and you're going to understand.
DOJ Raid Tactics Exposed00:14:58
Look at this.
It's the end of the world, people.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
Okay.
This is the clip that went viral with Jones and Robert Barnes.
We have a Sunday night show.
And whether it infuriates you or not, you will learn things from it.
The clip that has now gone viral, I mean, gone viral, Scott Jennings brought up this clip on CNN.
And people are making fun of Robert's hat.
And now, because I listened to Robert Barnes yesterday during the bourbon with Barnes, I now know that that's a working class hat, a newsboy hat.
And he wears it as a symbol and as the fact that it's comfortable.
Some people who are not as follicularly inclined as myself wear hats.
And Barnes is one of them.
Okay, here's the clip.
I'll play it uninterrupted.
Per the existential threat.
How do we get the 25th Amendment to his ass?
The problem is to get the 25th Amendment, it's harder than impeachment.
You have to get two thirds of the House and two thirds of the Senate to determine it.
Tackle Trump and let him pretend he's president and publicly report that he's going through a health issue and Vance take over.
It literally needs to be something like that.
It's that bad.
I've known you in a long time.
You've never called for an internal coup before.
Ever, ever, ever.
But that's how dangerous this is.
That's how risky it is for the whole world.
Yeah, if I was the Democrats, I'd stop poking Trump and messing with him.
That only makes it worse.
Like, you guys need to watch out.
This isn't a guy acting like he's crazy.
This is real.
Well, what's there going to be to take over in 2026 or 2028 if this hits the fan?
If we get to that, he's threatening an extinction level event for the people of Iran tomorrow.
Does nobody think there'll be any blowback from that?
If he follows through on that, the whole world is screwed.
You were saying during the break, there's other ways to do this.
People need to just not just tell him the truth, like Susie Walsh said.
It's time to just not.
I mean, say what you just said.
Yeah, well, legally and constitutionally, the vice president is an independent, uh, elected official.
The same is in the legally and constitutionally, the only oath any member of the military takes, any member of the state department takes, any member of the intelligence community.
And then they obviously cut it out there because you don't want to give the full context because that might give more context to it.
Uh, just a few things here.
First of all, I love Alex Jones is sensationalist, there's no question about it.
One of the things that I Sort of admire might not be the right word that impressed me.
And Alex is not the only one.
There's other guys on social media who do it way better than me because I don't do it.
They're going for a soundbite.
There's no question.
Like when Alex said, I've never heard you suggest for a coup, that's a soundbite, especially since there was no suggestion for a coup.
For those of you who don't know, Barnes has often said, almost basically every Sunday night show for a little while, that metaphorically speaking, To get Trump to listen, sometimes you got to slap him, get up there and slap him in the face as a metaphor.
And so, me listening to this, I was like, all right, they're having, I say, a little fun, being a little hyperbolic.
I don't agree with the 25th, and I don't even think Barnes does because he's even stating in this clip that you won't get a 25th because that is the mental capacity or removed from office for mental issues.
You're not going to get it because it's even harder than impeachment.
But what you have right there, Are two people who this is on the eve of the civilization will die tonight, never to come back again, talking about what they think Trump needs to hear and see in order to come out of it?
The hysteria, and I don't just say hysteria, the frothing at the mouth rage from people who suddenly decide to take everything literally.
I said this before, by the way.
Back in the day, Maxine Bernier said Maoists and communists have taken over the Canadian government.
It was quite clearly sarcasm, hyperbole.
But when people want to demonize you, they pretend that you say what you said literally, that they're going to tackle Trump and get JD to be the president, as opposed to that being hyperbolic, get him under control, get JD to influence him, which By some accounts, did, which is why it went from a tweet of tonight a civilization will die, never to be brought back again, to an alleged ceasefire that may or may not be in effect, apparently, because of actions being taken by Israel.
A 10 point plan, which is disputed as to whether or not it's accurate, because many people out there, including Mark Levin, are saying that this 10 point plan is an abomination.
All that I was happy about is that my assessment, which was accurate, is that it does no good negotiating in terms of negotiating.
To make threats that you know that you cannot follow through on, and what the world might have witnessed was a truth post which contained a threat that could not be followed through on.
But set that aside, the amount of people I have had harassing, hijacking comment sections, viva, go look at viva, you'd better distance yourself from Robert Barnes.
Viva, you're going to lose followers over Robert Barnes.
First of all, I'm not going to swear, but trust me, I want to swear so effing badly.
If you think that losing followers is going to be a motivation for me to Distance myself or feel the need to publicly condemn or disavow someone for their otherwise constitutional rhetoric, you have to be the dumbest person on earth.
You have to be about three hours old on this channel to think that I'm going to throw my friend, my trusted friend that I've known for seven effing years now.
I've met Robert Barnes in November 2019, and you think that you're going to bully me, harass me, and financially extort me or blackmail me into disavowing Robert Barnes because you don't like the fact that he.
Hyperbolically referenced the 25th Amendment in an attempt to impart on Donald Trump how recklessly wild the idea floated in that truth post was.
You have to think very highly of yourself and very lowly of me.
Holy hell.
A, get a sense of humor.
B, grow a pair, you're flipping snowflake.
Oh, you said something about the 25th.
That's a coup.
That's a coup.
It's amazing when Biden was objectively demented and people were talking about the 25th Amendment.
And the right was like, yeah, you know, you might have the 25th Amendment.
Oh, when they talked about it, it wasn't a coup.
Now, I happen to disagree with it.
For a number of reasons.
I don't think Trump's mental acuity is anywhere near anything that could be compared to a 25th Amendment necessitating a replacement in office.
I don't think so.
I think, by and large, Trump is still roughly who he is.
I think he's in something of a massive silo.
I, by and large, vehemently disagree with those truth posts the one where talking about blowing up bridges and power plants, and the one talking about tonight, a civilization will die, never to be brought back.
I don't want it to happen, but I think it's going to.
Holy hell, we were against some of his truth posts.
When it came to the tariffs.
And lo and behold, those truth posts came back to bite him in the ass when it got to the Supreme Court.
But you idiots out there, and not all of you, just the ones who are, hey, Viva, what do you have to say about your friend Barnes?
I used to like you, Viva, but I don't like what Barnes said.
If you used to like me, and now you don't like me because of something Barnes said, look in the mirror and understand you are the problem, not me.
Holy hell, you think I approach friends, family, with a transactional nature that if other people out there say, hey, here's five bucks that I'm going to take away from you, you better unfriend him.
Take your five bucks, roll it up nice and tight, and stick it where the shuns don't shine.
Holy hell.
I mean, and even if it were a million bucks, you think I'm going to, you own me for a million bucks?
This is the problem.
You know, when you think that you own somebody because you give them money, it's the problem in supporting people where the audience at some point, and not all of them, just the entitled ones who think that they need to hear only what they already believe in.
And God forbid somebody says something they don't.
Then they then get to say, oh, you've changed, man.
You better get away from that Barnes guy.
Otherwise, I'm not going to follow you anymore.
Go into your silo if that's what you want.
Holy hell.
Childish, entitled, and above all else, like slave owners.
Oh, no, no.
You take offense to what Robert said on a show with Alex Jones and then think that I have to disavow a man that I've known for seven years, learned from immensely, trust immensely, even if I disagree with some of the things that he said, some of the positions he's taken.
I can think of some things that Barnes has said that I felt rather uncomfortable listening to, but holy crabapples, you look at me and you think that I live life transactionally based on the demands of others.
You are the one.
Who is exposing to the world that you are a transactional individual with no true loyalties, no independent thought, and thin frickin' skin?
So, that is all I'm ever gonna say about that.
Sunday night show is gonna be a banger.
I might, we might actually not spend too much time on Iran just because that is proving to be something of the Palestinian Israeli conflict type debate.
I don't think it goes anywhere.
You know, there is an interesting thing about the legalities of what quantified, what would constitute a war crime, and you know, everyone's following this dual use.
Well, you know, it's not a war crime to strike bridges and power plants if they're dual use.
I think many people are misunderstanding the dual use, so we might tackle that.
But people, if you thought I lived by your standards of morality, ethics, and treating people as though they're transactions or means to an end, you're grossly mistaken.
I hope I've made myself clear.
Thank you, in any event, for all of the concern.
I pick my friends and I pick my enemies, and I don't let other people dictate that for me.
Godspeed.
Now, with that said, the fact that I got that without dropping the F bomb that's on the tip of my tongue.
Serenity now.
Okay, let's go see what's going on in Viva Barnes Law before we go raid whoever we're going to go raid now.
Oh, God.
Oh, what?
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
See, even people make fun of me in our own locals community.
I got to go to the bottom here.
Why can't I get to the bottom?
I wear barrettes, LOL.
Okay, let's go up here.
We got another one in the tipped.
F. Charton says the media saved the world from nuclear destruction.
Robert was part of that group.
I happen to believe that as well.
You think if Alex Jones doesn't come out there talking about 25th amending Trump, that.
Five million people who are Trump's most loyal base, whether it upset them to their core or not.
You think that that doesn't make it to Trump's ears?
Anyways, I agree, but then also maybe we just, maybe we think too much of ourselves.
Here's the reality, by the way.
You think you guys had an impact?
Nobody gives a shit about you.
If no one gave a shit about Barnes, they wouldn't be flipping their effing lids over what he said.
Holy crap.
Oh, yeah, Barnes has so little influence.
He's such a wild man lunatic that's a terrible lawyer, gives up that you guys spent the last four days.
Crapping your pants over him and Alex Jones, the biggest conspiracy theorist, floating crazy ideas?
Holy crabapples.
You don't flip that type of lid over people who don't mean anything.
And I guess I'm flattered by Ricochet.
People think that I'm, you know, I guess people place a sufficient amount of value in what I say that they think that they're going to bully me into disavowing Barnes for something that he said that I do disagree with.
But if you find that objectionable, morally offensive, shocking to the core, people actually talking about the Constitution, grow up.
Okay.
I said I was over with it and then I came back to it.
Every time I get out, they pull me back in.
All right, we're going to go raid.
Who's live now?
Let me see something here.
Sorry, people.
Who do we go raid?
I know everybody gets mad when I raid to Redacted.
Too bad.
No, they're up there.
Oh, you got Max Blumenthal.
Well, if you guys want to cry and flip your lids, Max Blumenthal is on Redacted.
Let me see if it's.
No, we're going to go raid Redacted.
I'm not.
Raid.
Oh, hold on.
Before we raid Redacted.
Come on over to viva barnslaw.locals.com today.
There will not be.
Oh, crap!
You know what?
I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to do Rumble Premium today.
Okay, we might.
Oh, I think I can rumble out.
I can opt out the non Rumble Premium, I think, but otherwise, I won't be able to because I'm using StreamYard and not Rumble Studio.
So, we're gonna go raid, we'll have our after party.
I'm gonna focus exclusively on locals.
Uh, come to locals if you want.
And unfortunately, if you don't like Redacted, now's your time to opt out.
Check out Patrick PBD tomorrow.
It's going to be fantastic.
I got to read some homework.
And now we're going to have our locals after party.
So opt out if you don't want to go to Redacted.
And we're confirming the raid now.
Let them know from whence you came.
Everybody, I'll see you tomorrow.
Godspeed to Rumble and the God bless I save for locals.
Let me see what I can do here.
I don't really have much to talk about anymore.
I sort of think I do have to have my energy drink.
And I have to make a, I have to go to the bathroom a little bit.
We'll get there in a second.
Okay.
Let's go to locals and see what's going on there.
Uh, scroll up.
Bill Brown says, Damn you, Viva.
If you don't change right now, I'm staying right here.
Breathe, Viva.
Rabid, Freudian slip or purposeful.
What did I say, rabid or Viva?
People like that are not worth getting that worked up over.
No, but the amount of like, and then they go like to videos that are, it's just, it's a, doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Stop ringing back at the hyphen.
You are both good men, in my opinion.
Cheers.
Thank you.
Nacho Kitty.
Hi.
Just in time for the end.
Michigan Winter Day says, Well, I missed the show, but caught the rand.
Well, that was the best part of the show, if I did say so.
No, just like, do I even address it?
But that's it.
And now it's done.
It's crazy that people are putting out the most obvious take and people think this is edgy.
What do I have in the backdrop that I want to bring up?
Neurodivergent is definitely going to tell me how I can raid out non premium.
Let me see how this, let's see if I can figure this out.
How do I raid out non premium Rumble members?
Steve Baker is really putting it out now.
He's putting out his analysis and it's.
Oh, hold on.
I don't think I got it right before the show.
He's putting out all of his analysis right now.
And I'm curious to see what it's.
This is not a fear hiding a wish because I don't want to put the juju out in the universe like he hasn't been sued yet.
He's putting out stuff.
He is unchained from what has been or what could have been.
And he's.
I do want everybody, in as much as you can support Steve Baker, let me go to his Twitter feed actually.
Hold on.
Sorry, I got distracted here.
Epstein Files Analysis And Melania Trump00:04:59
Here, here, here.
And this is Kayla Pollack, so help her out.
But let's go home and let's.
Oh, that's what I wanted to talk about, people.
Speaking of now, it's going to get me back into the rage again.
Why did you do it, Viva?
Why did you do it?
Oh, remember when I was taking shit and being called a black pillar, panicking?
Viva, nobody gives a shit about the Epstein files.
It's a move on.
The same people who are flipping out about Barnes and the 25th Amendment.
Quip on Alex Jones.
The exact same ones were the ones who flipped a 180 on the Epstein files, who flipped a 180 on the Iran war.
And now they're going to have to flip another 180 on the Epstein files because I saw this right before I was going live.
I can't figure this out.
It was Melania talking about how the fact that there are other men involved in the Epstein files.
Yeah.
And it's Nick Sortor putting it out.
Nick Sortor, I. Once upon a time, accidentally suggested implied that he was a cheerleader.
I didn't mean I like Nick, and what I was saying is that the people who are cheerleading the administration certainly have not lost access to that administration.
I never had access to lose really in the first place, but don't care, it's not going to compromise my intellectual honesty and my integrity.
But here, listen to this Melania talking about Epstein.
Now is the time for Congress to act.
Epstein was not alone.
Several prominent male executives resigned from their powerful positions after this matter became widely politicized.
Of course, this doesn't amount to guilt, but we still must work openly and transparently to uncover the truth.
I call on Congress to provide the women.
Who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors?
I want to pause it here.
This victims their opportunity to testify under oath.
I want to pause it here to every single person who called Thomas Massey the ugliest names on earth for demanding for this very thing.
Are you going to say the same things about Melania Trump now?
I'm not naming names, but you know damn well who they are.
Are they going to now say the same things about Melania Trump?
Because they did.
By having said it about Thomas Massey when he demanded exactly what Melania Trump is demanding right now, I'll be very embarrassed if this turns out to be AI.
They have implicitly called Melania the very same names that they called Thomas Massey.
How do they feel about themselves right now?
This is what happens when you have zero integrity.
In front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony, each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes.
And then her testimony should be permanently entered into the congressional record.
Then and only then we will have the truth.
Thank you.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I could have sworn that I was called names for not pulling the cowardly 180 to keep access.
Melania Trump has just come out right now and called for exactly what Thomas Massey called for.
Now, I saw a comment, and I'm not putting it on blast to be mean.
I just want to highlight the idiocy of it.
Here, where was it?
Where was it?
No, no.
Massey is an ass.
Melania isn't, says New Case.
First of all, let's just assume it's true.
Nobody was calling Massey an ass for any other reason than he was pushing the Epstein.
People were calling Massey an ass specifically for doing exactly what Melania did right now today.
Everybody who called Massey bad names, a traitor, whatever, because of him pushing the Epstein files and for him wanting to give a mic to the victims, they all said that implicitly about Melania Trump.
And you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Someone might be an ass, it doesn't mean they're wrong.
And I don't think that Thomas Massey is an ass, except he does have ASS in his name.
Assy Massy, Sassy Massy.
So that's a yet more vindication of what it means to actually have a spine, have a backbone, and not cater to the pressure of the social media mob.
What did I just do here?
That wants to pressure people into silence, shut them up through harassment campaigns.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Okay, we're going to read a few more comments over on vivabarnslaw.locals.com because I got to get ready for Dr. Drew.
Pressuring People Into Silence00:03:22
Then I got to get ready for.
What's his dust?
La Viva Reaction.
What's getting old is your complete ignorance of federal criminal procedure, Canadian Posse.
I forgive her, and I wouldn't even mind if she unblocked.
I would have her on, and we would have a wonderful discussion.
We could do it in person at the local studio, we could do it at Longboat.
Hmm, that would give me another excuse to go.
The problem that you know, in another world, I could, you know, Michael Tracy and I don't look that much different.
He did say he wasn't Jewish, though, right?
Like that's where I think he might, um, we have very similar traits.
Uh, if anyone has a bad take about Massey, they are a face, period, says Francis.
No one should have to cater to the president, he eats McDonald's every day.
No, he doesn't.
Assistant AG of the Virgin Islands presented enough evidence that investigations should be opened against JPMorgan Chase company officers.
Oh, is that that's the one, um.
Was that the one that was taken?
Is that no?
Plaskett was uh the rep for the Virgin Islands.
Someone trying to debank PayPal.
I think Steve Baker is concerning.
Yep, that's another thing.
Viva, nothing to talk about.
Are you aware of the China invasion of Canada?
Canada is a vat, dude.
Come on, I've talked about that at length.
Um, okay, now uh, I'm gonna go open your open the relief valves on your ears.
I gotta go because I think I gotta get there for 4 45.
I gotta pee, I gotta get my energy drink.
Perfect!
And then I got to do Robert Govea.
Then I got to do my homework for tomorrow with Patrick David.
I don't want to embarrass myself.
Who's the guy?
No, I'm not making any jokes.
It's not nice.
Adam is a nice guy.
I've met him in person.
I just don't want to have politically bad takes like Adam has been known to have every now and again.
So I'm going to do my homework and make sure I know what I'm talking about.
Everybody, locals, Rumble, thank you for being here.
Indeed, premium to see Viva pee his energy drink.
No, I'm going to go drink it now and then get going.
Thank you all for being here.
I actually feel mildly better than sitting on that.
I was bowling Tuesday night.
I'm like, do I?
I'm sitting there bowling.
And that's why I had a bad game, by the way.
Everyone who's asking, locals, my average for the three games was a 167, very subpar, but we swept the three games and the points.
So I was making sure, you know, you don't want to bring your average down strategically.
It's called sandbagging.
And I'm joking, I didn't do it.
I hurt my thumb.
And so I couldn't hold the ball.
I only have two holes in the ball.
I don't have a thumb hole.
So I put the thumb on this side, but I heard it.
So I had to have it on the side, and I couldn't really get the proper curve and making excuses for a crappy evening, but we won and swept in the house.
So no big deal.
All right.
All that to say, I'm sitting there bowling, drafting out this tweet.
And then I send it to my wife.
I'm like, Marion, should I send this?
It's like, yeah, think about it.
It's not worth it.
And it's probably something that had to be said.
Viva Voce, anyhow.
Pun intended.
Go and enjoy the day.
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I mean, I make the joke Elon is at a point in the world, as is the president, where they're literally like, The pressure they have is like answering letters to God and everything.
Elon, help me.
Elon, help me.
But if everybody can do something just to help Caleb, it would be great.
So, with that said, everybody, everyone's going to get it today.