Tiffany Henyard a REPUBLICAN Now? SAVE Act on Life Support? Convo w/ Jessica Rose AND MORE!
Tiffany Henyard and Jessica Rose dissect the "SAVE Act" crisis while Brian analyzes Israel's ballistic defense physics, noting Iron Dome's 90% success against high-altitude threats but vulnerability to low-flying rockets. They debunk Netanyahu's death rumors, confirm widespread Tel Aviv damage via live footage, and critique Shinbet's October 7th intelligence failures due to legal constraints. The discussion argues that holding Gaza and southern Lebanon is essential to prevent future Hezbollah attacks, dismissing the "two-state delusion" as a deceitful process that never existed. Ultimately, the episode suggests Israel's survival depends on eradicating hostile regimes rather than accommodating them. [Automatically generated summary]
Ladies and gentlemen, to start today's show off, Mark Levin or Levine or Levine talking about what it means to be woke right fascists.
Behold.
Donald Trump is operating in the tradition of our greatest peacetime slash wartime presidents.
Despite the outrageous media coverage in this country, despite the constant efforts under Operation Sabotage by a Democrat Party that is hell-bent on losing this war, that is hell-bent on undermining the commander-in-chief that is hell-bent on undermining our armed forces.
And yes, is giving aid and comfort, propaganda to the enemy, as are individuals, who I call the woke right neo-fascists, who are stirring the anti-Semitism pot, who are stirring the trash Christian pot.
They are no different than the same voices we heard in the 1930s and just as disgusting, evil, and reprehensible.
All this talk about this war wasn't imminent.
Why do we decide now?
All this talk about what is the mission.
All of this is used to try and obstruct, undermine, dispirit, and divide this nation.
At a time when Donald Trump is doing what great presidents do.
We'll pause it there.
We've all seen the news of the day, which is Trump putting out a truth social post praising Mark Levin and the backlash that that truth post has generated.
Because for those who don't know, not to say that everybody should be held to their words of a decade ago, was a proud, never Trumper before Trump won the Republican primaries.
And then he became a begrudging Trump supporter because Trump, as much as Mark Levin hated him, would still be better than Hillary Clinton.
And then he's gone on to be one of the most vocal supporters of Trump for whatever that means, because rah-rah-rah, a president into bad decisions is not in that president's favor, although you might feel good being the sycophant cheerleader, seal clapper as it happens.
That and Mark Levin has been on the wrong side of pretty much every conflict war in the Middle East, going back to Afghanistan, supported the war in Afghanistan, supported the war in Iraq, supported regime change with Libya, although he was critical of the manner in which it was done, which is always the most convenient way to go about it.
What else did he support?
Well, he supports this war with Iran.
And that's the great one.
He's the great one now, people.
And if you have issues with Mark Levin, you are no longer MAGA, apparently.
Tommy Robinson In Israel00:02:37
We're not going to get into that, but that was the prelude to get into the detour of today's show because we're going to have on two people who are in Israel right now, one of whom you are very familiar with, computational biologist, Jessica Rose.
And another man who you're not necessarily going to be familiar with, but he's got an interesting story, Brian of London.
That's his internet name.
Jessica, you can come in too and we'll get this party started.
I'm unfortunately going to have to occupy the bigger rectangle on the whatever side of the screen, just because they don't seem to have equal sized rectangles.
We're going to talk about what's going on in Israel right now because you two are there.
And out, I say out west, in America, in the North American continent, we're getting like, I would say not half information.
You might have a different perception of reality.
You're getting negative information.
Well, let's start.
We'll start with top to bottom.
Brian, for those who have not yet met you, because this is your first time on the channel, although we've been following each other on Twitter for a long time, who are you?
I'm Brian of London.
I was a, I would call myself a counter jihadi when I lived in the UK, when I had a pseudonym, which was Brian of London, so that my employers would never work out who I was.
And then when I moved to Israel, that was when I put my face out live.
And I did that about 18 or almost 19 years ago.
No, 18 years ago.
I moved to Israel.
And so I've lived here through a number of missile events.
You did say counter jihadi.
Yeah, I really cut my teeth in blogging thinking about Islam post 9-11, 2001.
Was a wake-up call, read all the books, read the Quran.
Where's my Quran?
I've got my Quran here.
I've got the only Quran that matters.
There's my Quran, Muhammad's Quran by Tommy Robinson.
I did went through various phases.
I wound up infiltrate.
Well, I thought I was infiltrating the EDL and came to realize that they weren't what they were described as.
They weren't Nazis or anything.
And became friendly with Tommy Robinson.
When he first visited Israel in 2016, that was with me.
I drove him around in my wife's car and I took the picture of him on a tank.
And then I've done all sorts of stuff in the background, been banned from Facebook, banned from X or Twitter for a while, and I'm back.
And to be honest, I gave up the whole talking publicly thing after COVID.
I just went into a shell and thought, nah, but October 7th, sort of, you tried to get out, but they dragged me back in again.
Hurricane Windows Warning00:13:46
That was what we were worried about.
That's still another warning.
Okay, so it's not yet.
If that turns into a full-scale alarm, my family will join me and I'll probably turn off the camera.
Okay.
That is the sirens to potential income.
Basically.
Precursor to the siren.
This is the, this is the, fighting with Iran is actually a luxury compared to the Hamas and Hezbollah because we get like an eight, nine, ten minute pre-alert, which gives you enough time to go to the toilet, fill your water bottle, you know, maybe turn the oven off, all the other things.
It's quite a, or if you don't, if you're not lucky enough like I am to have a bomb shelter in your apartment, you have to go find the public bomb shelter, which, yeah, it's, you know, but I'm in my, what's called safe room, which is in my apartment.
And there's a steel shutter.
This, this window is a, you know, one and a half centimeter, you know, basically almost an inch thick piece of steel that's just outside this window.
And we sit here and wait and hear the booms and you do hear the booms.
And in the last one, there were quite a few that we felt big, big feeling.
In fact, in the very first Iran ballistic missile attack, one of them landed about a kilometer and a half from here.
And that one, I'm a physicist.
So I got a very special experience, which is where you hear the explosion and then you hear the sonic boom of the explosion.
So it's the wrong way around.
You hear the missile arrive after you hear it explode because the sound is traveling slower than the missile.
So the missile hits the ground, you hear the explosion and then the sound of the missile coming in.
That's cool.
No, no, I say like from a science from like, you know, when you set off fireworks, it's cool.
Jess, everybody knows who you are, but just refresh everybody's memory real quick.
I'm just a computational biologist, systems person, data analyst.
Still got my dukes up.
Getting a bit bored of certain things that I've been saying for six years now.
Um, and see lots of love in the panel there.
That's very nice.
Hi, everyone.
Um, and uh, where are you exactly in Israel?
Are you in Tel Aviv or North Tel Aviv?
North Tel Aviv, just on the edge of the north north.
So it's really interesting what you said because this is something that well, I learned something new about the different kinds of sounds.
Um, so you've been here how many years, like 20, yeah, 18.
Exactly for me, same thing.
So, uh, we've seen the same wars.
So, this one is different because we have this other awful sound that comes out of these idiotic devices that we have.
My phone is on do not disturb.
Just this breaks through, you it can be off.
This happens.
It's also a great reminder to people that privacy, you know, isn't privacy, like everything's being monitored, and every they can do whatever they want if you have a device, anyway.
Um, my family's going to join me now.
I might turn the camera off.
I'll see they'll stay down here.
All right, so yeah, they give you a warning if uh Iran is sending over um missiles.
Um, if if like I'm in the north, so we're getting it from both sides.
We're getting Iranian and we're also getting uh Hasnobalza, as I call them.
Um, so we don't get warnings when it comes from Hasnobala.
We do get warnings in the form of the pre-siren, the alert on the devices, and then we get the sirens if there's proximity warning.
So, um, his comment about the sound, okay.
Um, this is this is something that if you haven't experienced, I've talked a little bit about this before, but um, I have more experience now after the last few weeks.
Um, there have been a lot of interceptions and a couple of hit uh touchdowns very, very close to where I am.
And I live in a crappy building and I don't have a bomb shelter in my apartment, so I'm one of the ones that has to go outside.
Um, and sometimes you don't get a warning, like I said.
And if the interception is very close above your head, um, everything shakes.
The pressure wave that comes from the explosion is like something unless you experience it, you can't describe it to someone.
It is way, way, way, way more than nerve-wracking.
It's it's it takes your nervous system and it makes it do this and it kind of stays there until you actively release it somehow by breathing or I don't know, vagal nerve stimulation.
It's um, yeah, the windows, yeah, your windows can shatter actually, so that's why they tell you not to be near them.
Um, that's it's a it's, I mean, for example, my brother in June, my brother-in-law lives in Peratikfa.
It's, I don't know, six kilometers, five kilometers away.
His building complex, it's a build a complex of four buildings, uh, 20-story buildings, four apartments per floor.
That was that took a direct hit from a one-ton missile.
Not a just it exploded right outside the fourth floor of the building.
It took out all the buildings.
All the buildings are unlivable.
It destroyed all the interiors of all the apartments.
The people in their safe rooms were okay, including my brother and sister-in-law and their kids, except for one or I think two, two apartments people died in because it was like literally outside their window.
Basically, a direct hit when this room won't help.
But for all the other blast kind of things, the apartment outside you can be on fire and wrecked, and your safe room will be largely intact.
And, you know, Israel spent, you don't, people outside do not have any comprehension that every new build, every new building for the last, I don't even know, it's 20 or 30 years, has mandated one of these rooms.
And this room is in the core of the building, next to the lifts, shafts, and the stairwell.
So the whole way you build buildings in Israel is different to everywhere else in the world.
Nobody else has put this much effort into civil defense.
Yeah, it's a horse concrete like room.
And I knew that you were in your safe room because of your window.
This is a very characteristic.
It's a very, yeah.
And to be honest, I sit here and work.
This is my workplace.
And it's horrible because I keep running.
And I do.
I slide it open and dust every time I slide it open within two hours.
There's another bloody alarm.
And it's big and heavy.
And thankfully, I started going to the gym a couple of years ago.
So I can, now I can move it more easily.
But it's a stressful thing.
Yeah, the incoust are weird too.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
No, no, it's it's it's, it's amazing, you know, hearing the perspective in in, you know, certain parts of the states.
You have uh, tornado bunkers in Florida.
You have hurricane windows in in Israel.
Yeah, you have uh, you have bunkers to protect from incoming missiles.
I like I, I don't know if either of you are going to have any knowledge of this.
I, i've been.
You know, there's the rumor running around that uh, Benjamin Netanyahu is dead, that the videos of him are ai, and one of one of my queries is like, if he were dead, I would imagine that all the forces on earth, or at least America and the Us Would.
America and Israel would want to say, exploit that, weaponize it, to say well, now we got to go and, you know, destroy all of Iran if they successfully had killed Netanyahu.
I, you know on the ground there.
Does anybody believe it?
Is it a rumor that's gained any traction?
Okay zero, because i'll tell you why Israel is such a bizarrely it's.
It's really hard to keep a secret in this place really like no, it is.
Insert, insert the Jewish joke about spread uh, spreading gossip bada bing bada, boom.
Uh no, it is.
And and and especially especially deaths, like you know, casualties in the war we take them really seriously.
When when when, and you know, all through the Gaza thing we've been losing soldiers and thank god it's stopped.
We lost some in there.
We're gonna lose, you know, in the north it can get bad Again, but you can't keep quiet about those things.
You just, you can't in this country.
Everybody knows somebody in the IDF and it just, it just doesn't work.
The idea that this country could conceivably conceal the death of Netanyahu is ridiculous in the extreme.
I mean, just today, firstly, and then the other thing is like I've worked, you know, I did lots and lots of stuff.
I've tried to get the PR of the country better.
I've taken my shots at working with the Ministry of the Interior and so on.
And it's always been very, very difficult to get them to do anything useful.
The idea that they're organized enough to create fake AI videos of Netanyahu, it just, it blows, it blows my mind.
I was involved back in 2009 and 10 when I first got here, I was involved in helping getting the IDF online with a blog, just a simple WordPress blog, and then some Facebook and Twitter presence and so on.
And at that very early time, it was taking them three weeks to get hold of the footage of a camera on an aeroplane, for example.
That's obviously got better and so on.
But the idea today that you're going to fake something like Netanyahu dying and nobody knowing, inconceivable.
This country couldn't do it.
Let me ask you this then.
Another rumor that we hear, and I don't know if either of you are going to be able to answer to this either.
We are hearing that the destruction in Tel Aviv in particular, but Israel more broadly, is much greater than what we're seeing, that their censorship videos are being blocked from being shared online.
Is there any truth to that from what you guys know?
No, every morning I wake up and I go to my balcony, which I'm looking, I look south across the whole of Tel Aviv and it's all there.
So either it gets destroyed every night and then rebuilt in the morning, or it just, there is damage.
Our television is showing us, you know, my wife's here watching Channel 12 and every bit of damage, like just now, a building in a place called Nahariya in the north was hit by a missile, direct hit.
Yeah, and it's burning like crazy.
And it was live on the TV.
And I'm sitting there watching it live on the TV and there's cameras there.
And they're running to every single fall.
All across Jerusalem today, they're picking up bits of, they call it shrapnel, but it's just large, huge chunks, car-sized chunks of missile, one of which that fell on a roof, which is adjacent to the church of the Holy Sepulchre.
We see everything.
Now, what we don't see, I'll tell you what the censorship is, which is perfectly, you know, I quite like this.
We don't get the geolocated coordinates of every strike immediately after each strike, because that helps the targeting guys in Iran.
They try and conceal, so they'll tell you it's in the center of the country or it's in the north of the country or it's in the Jerusalem area, but they won't tell you the street.
Eventually, the photos will come and then those of us who know the area will be able to go, yeah, that's where it is.
But we're trying not to give them real-time information, which is actually sensible.
Let me just show you this, because people in the chat are saying, you know, Israeli intelligence is better than the U.S.
They can easily generate.
The only problem with this is it doesn't look real.
That.
That still doesn't look particularly real.
Well, like this video, so everybody started, sorry, everybody started going on about the phone, like he picked up the cup and the coffee didn't spill.
I have a PhD in non-Newtonian fluid dynamics, which includes how foams work.
But everybody who's ever bought a cappuccino knows this.
The foam can slosh backwards and forwards out of the cup.
That was my observation.
That was the edge.
That was my observation as well.
got two inches of foam on the top.
Non-Newtonian Coffee Physics00:14:36
The foam tends to...
I forget what it is.
It's worse.
Israeli coffee.
You see a coffee chemist like working in a coffee bar.
And you're trained to make that silk shiny.
Exactly.
And then Cafe Afukh here, it's like it's masses of foamy milk with a teeny drop of coffee in it.
It's ridiculous.
It's not enough coffee.
Yeah, let me weigh in on your question, though, from my point of view.
The only thing that I can say for sure, I was in Tel Aviv for seven years.
And, you know, I went through a couple of things there.
Nothing like what we're having now, but usually, generally, when we have these altercations, let's call them, Haifa is usually worse hit than Tel Aviv.
And that's just a proximity thing because of Aznobalza.
Hamas usually, they go for the southern region.
So all the people who live in the Kibbutzim and the villages down there are usually targeted.
It's their way of life.
Like people in the south.
We accepted it for so long because, probably because it didn't affect the elites who live in Tel Aviv.
Exactly.
So this is different this time.
Personally, I think that Tel Aviv is getting worse than the North right now.
Not the North-North.
Like if you go six clicks away from us more North, it's way worse.
So it depends where you are, but this one is different.
The other thing that's different and scary, just so that people have some knowledge, is the weapons that they're using.
So the ballistic missiles are bad.
They're very bad.
They're heavy.
They're lethal.
They're the ones that the Iron Dome interceptor missiles can generally get 100% of the time.
Don't quote me on that, but it's pretty accurate.
But these cluster bombs that they're sending over to Tel Aviv, these are bad.
Like I was talking to a stranger when we were hiding in a bunker the other day about like I was just I was just like very jazz.
I was like, what kind of a sick brain do you have to have to be the person who's in charge of designing a weapon that's going to fuck up as many people as you could possibly like?
I was just going off, right?
Because it's like weapons design for me, like you got to have something wrong with you if your goal is to maim the maximum number of people that you've never met in your life and that you probably have no problem with.
So that's what these things do.
They literally open up and they deploy like multiple.
I don't know.
Maybe you can help me with this.
I don't know if they're explosive or if it's just it detaches 20 or 30 of these explosive things that all hit the ground separately.
And each one of them is small.
But if you're around, but look, the only reason there are not large-scale casualties in Israel is because we are all trained like little Pavlov dogs.
When the bell rings, we all run.
And I think that, you know, the level of acceptance of that is begrudging but high.
We do it.
And I mean, like, this is the worst part now is if you want to go out, you know, and go do something, you're always worried about what happens when you get stuck on the road.
I'm fine at home.
At home, it's not really an inconvenience.
But when you go out, you're on the road and your phone starts blaring and you look around.
If you're in a neighborhood, you stop, double park the car, run out, go into the nearest building and look for their shelter.
Or if you're just out in the open, you're supposed to just lie flat on the ground.
And from a physics point of view, that is actually quite sensible.
It sounds strange, but you avoid shrapnel.
But I mean, I had a slightly different take, which is that, you know, like I say, my brother-in-law and sister-in-law are living in a rented apartment because their house was basically these four massive buildings are rendered uninhabitable.
And what they've done is they've just stripped all the apartments back to bare concrete and they're going to rebuild it as if it's a new building.
That was one one-ton warhead that did that to almost a thousand people rented homeless.
But these cluster bombs have a different effect, which is that they spread wide.
They don't cause the same damage, but if they hit you or your car or whatever, they will destroy in a small area.
Look, it's all just weapons of terror.
It's all trying to terrorize us.
It doesn't kind of, it doesn't really work anymore.
Hamas was a different thing, different thing altogether.
And we, you know, what we realize now is we endured this up to, you know, October 7th way too long.
We just, we thought that they were contained and we didn't mind if they shot a few rockets every now and then.
Because I went through wars in 2014 and 12, and it was periodic.
We would be in this room.
I remember being in this room with my little kids when they were little, explaining to them.
That was the first time I had to have the conversation with them was what is an Arab.
And it's not a good condition to be.
I'm not going to ask Jess this question because it's more political than anything.
But, you know, October 7, I've spoken with people who are Israeli from Israel who speak of things of colloquially stand down orders or inexplicable delays.
And I had on, I'm going to have to, I'm going to remember his name now a while back where he was a very pro-Netanyahu individual who did not have, by his own account, no good explanation for the delays.
October 7th, I mean, to the extent you have some intelligence knowledge, what accounts for the scope and breadth of October 7th for the most sophisticated military on earth?
For me, I'll give you my reasoning.
I got to Israel in 2009 and I looked around and I tried to tell people about what Islam was and nobody wanted to listen.
And I was shocked and I was completely shocked for years at the level of unknowledge about what Islam and what jihad are.
And all through the time that I've been here, watching how we dealt with Hamas in Gaza, what I saw was a complete failure to come to terms with the fact that these people really, really mean it.
When they say that they want to kill us all, they really, really mean it.
And when politicians year after year, it's not just Netanyahu, but he was in the top as well.
For years, we thought we could do deals with these people.
We thought we could placate them.
We thought that if they had nice things and cars and houses and nice restaurants and stuff, that they were quiet.
And they weren't.
And they weren't.
They were just waiting to do jihad.
And then on the other side, we got complacent.
We had Ridiculous leadership at the top of the IDF, who on the one side, you had lawyers, like this attorney who long story.
We came with stupid rules of engagement.
Like when you had Black Lives Matter in America, we had these, we had the Palestinians using that as an excuse to storm the fence of Gaza.
What were they doing?
They were testing us.
They were desensitizing us to large crowds running towards the fence.
And did we have orders to shoot anybody that got within 800 meters of the fence?
No, because we had lawyers telling us you can't do that.
They have a right to protest their right of return or whatever.
Bullshit.
And year after year after year, we relaxed, we relaxed.
We thought that they were taken care of.
We allowed money to go in from Qatar.
We sent some money in.
We sent all the aid they asked for.
And suddenly you wake up one Saturday morning of a very quiet thing.
You don't have enough troops on the border.
They haven't got the orders to shoot on site anybody crossing that fence.
And this is what happened.
And we were just good enough.
You know, anybody who's ever worked with any government, and the Israeli government is no better than any other government, knows governments get a lot of stuff wrong.
The IDF got it wrong.
The leadership got it wrong.
And the final plot is the, it seems that the head of the, it seems that the Shinbet, which is the internal security services, we have Mossad that does foreign, and we have Shinbet that's supposed to look at Gaza and Judea, Samaria, West Bank.
The Shinbet were useless.
They gave up on Gaza when we pulled out.
They had nothing, zero.
They had no actionable intelligence coming out of there.
And what they did have, they, again, they were in this mindset of we don't want to, we don't want to, we don't want to, if we, if we move more troops to the border, they will escalate.
We wanted to de-escalate everything like a stupid bunch of peat snakes.
And they got killed.
And it's not even playing devil's advocate.
The obvious pushback is going to be that explanation is difficult to coincide with Netanyahu's public statements and stance over two decades.
And if that's the explanation that, you know, you know, you're living next to people who want to kill you and you fail to protect.
The whole in Hebrew, there's a word called the conceptsia.
The whole way of thinking of all of the elites, of all of the ruling classes, with almost no exceptions, was not to understand how bad jihad would be.
And, you know, the question, what happened on October 8th?
One of my great regrets, not regrets, I feel horrific inside knowing that nothing that happened on October 7th surprised me in terms of the barbarity and the actions they took.
And I've seen the films and I've gone and I don't want to see more.
None of it surprised me because it's all there in that book I've got down there.
And it's all in the life of Muhammad.
The only thing that these guys brought to the table was GoPros.
So they that's that was what was new.
It wasn't a surprise, but we, on our side, the Shinbet in particular, didn't comprehend that they meant to do this, that they would do this if given the chance.
And also, we got, it was this, like, we didn't have all the helicopters up in the air.
The helicopters didn't have permission to fire enough.
And so you can go on about your sort of nonsense that Israeli helicopters caused all those cars to blow up.
I mean, again, I've toured down there.
I've seen the cars.
I've seen the wreckage.
I've seen what an RPG does to a car.
They did all that.
They really did all that.
And we were slow.
Now, we got our act together very quickly.
I think, you know, but we were still killing terrorists in the Gaza envelope a day and a half after October 7th.
On the 8th and 9th, we were still finding and catching infiltrators.
And at the same time, we moved.
You also have to understand, you know, I'm from Britain.
The British Army, I think, today, total, everybody in it, Air Force, Navy, and Army is something like 90,000.
We mobilized 300,000 people that weekend.
And a great many of them, including some of my friends, were sent straight to the border with Lebanon because the big catastrophe would have been had Hezbollah done this at the same time as Hamas.
And I think the only reason that didn't happen and the only reason Hamas went alone was because Hamas quite rightly knew how badly infiltrated Hezbollah was, because the Mossad was responsible for Hezbollah for 20 years.
And they haven't been running Epstein and they haven't been doing all the other bullshit nonsense that the internet thinks the Mossad do.
The Mossad has been deep in Iran and deep in Hezbollah.
And that clearly is what they've been doing because they're bloody good at it.
Jess, go for it.
I don't know if you want to add anything to that.
Well, I have a question for the, I don't know if you guys are trolling in the comments.
This is the first time I've ever seen.
I'm not reading the comments.
Don't read the comments, Jess.
No, no, this is the first time.
It's a social experiment.
I'm sure there's a lot of bots and trolls and blah, blah, blah, but what was it that I wanted to ask?
They said some, well, they mentioned that.
Was it about the stand down?
Was it about the $7,000 checks?
Was it about...
No, I read the chat.
There are...
Here's one that says seven hours isn't slow.
And I don't know if party foul means it's beyond slow or it was fast.
Seven hours is not fast.
Seven hours to organize an army is fast.
But if you have to organize an army as though you don't live under constant threat and you're prime minister.
Imagine it being the 4th of July weekend and everybody's at a barbecue because that's what this was.
This was Simchatora.
This was the last, we have this whole month of holidays, Rosh Hashona, Yom Kippur.
Then we have then you've not to be not to be adversarial, then one has learned nothing of the history.
The seven-day war was started on Yom Kippur.
I figure which I'll say it was started in Grammy on Yom Kippur.
To say you've learned nothing from history is going to allow people, because people are floating some theories that, you know, a Lee Hop and Mihop, and I have great difficulty accepting how this could have happened at the scale I didn't have had questions that have not yet been answered because you don't answer those questions or ask them during war.
But you're not going to quell any conspiracy theories here, Brian.
But Jessica, sorry.
Please.
Canadian Military Conscription00:13:36
Yeah, no, I just, I think what I wanted to say is like, I see a lot of I even see a couple of violent comments.
Everybody who knows me knows, you know, I don't really get political in this arena very often because there's no point.
But like, you know, I'd just like to throw something back to the general audience so that they know what's being said in the comments.
Somebody said something like, where's an Iranian missile when you need it?
In response to what, you know, one of the people on this call is saying.
And it's like, listen, nobody likes war.
We started this whole chat with you guys telling you like a little bit about the personal experience.
It sucks.
It sucks for everyone who's getting killed, maimed, whatever.
I don't care who you are.
I am pro-human.
I'm against violent death cult people.
There are people on the planet who are death cultists.
There's no denying that.
I'm not aligned with those people.
I never could be because I love life.
I love humans.
I love knowledge and growing and balance.
So maybe what I'm trying to say is it's better not to project violence and hate in comments, especially in this world of social media that we all live in.
Because you're just contributing to a problem that's already huge.
And just to go back to the very, very beginning, my mom frequently asks me, like, so what's going on today?
And I'm like, well, mom, listen, this is what I saw because I go outside and I watch people and I talk to people and da da da da.
Pretty much everything that you see in the media and the news is lies.
So don't don't don't get your information from social media.
No, I'd say you can't read the comments, not and not, you know, bots, people, not talking about actual robots, but people troll, people say awful things for the sake of it.
And then there's also people out there who simply believe that A, there will be, this is steel manning it, but this is people are going to say, well, you guys are complaining, and I'll tell you, but like there's been a war initiated indisputably by Netanyahu.
So, you know, while bombing a country, you expect to get bombed back.
That's the nature of war.
Then people are going to say, well, we, you know, you're going to say, or Israel, proponents of the war, you have to bomb Iran because they're a terrorist regime and negotiation doesn't work, et cetera, et cetera.
So people are just going to place the blame as who started this.
Okay, fine.
I'll come back with, I get it, man.
And I'd say the same thing in your position, but my point of view is always my point of view.
And I'm just a person.
I'm just, I happen to live here.
I'm not a politically aligned.
Everybody who kind of knows what I'm about, they kind of know what I'm about.
So one of the things I hear a lot of people doing is categorizing and clustering everything together.
And that's bad.
People need to remember that you have to see people as individuals.
No matter what the hell is going on in the world, you have to, because there are good and bad people, and there's good and bad in every single person.
And you have to, I don't know, man.
It's like, it's an approach that I think is not being taken enough to life in general.
Like people just lump everything together.
Well, if you do this and you do this, then you deserve.
No.
Well, it is the nature of the internet.
And especially, this is why I never talk the Israeli-Palestinian politics.
I had an argument back in university in 2001, and it never goes anywhere.
No, it can't.
No, because it is good versus evil on both sides.
And I'm not trying to both sides that I know that there's once when it comes to this, the history of Israel, I know what I think I understand.
I don't expect to convince anybody on the other side.
When it comes to this, it gets more dynamic because you're dealing with politicians who are, they're all corrupt.
And anybody thinking, you know, you can't criticize Benjamin Netanyahu because it makes you anti-Semitic is idiotic.
Anybody who thinks the Israeli government is anyhow less corrupt than the Canadian government or to some extent, the American government also living a pipe dream.
And so then it just gets into any legitimate criticism will be weaponized by the adversaries as saying, look at this, now you're anti-Semitic or you're anti-Israel.
But you think I trust the Israeli government any more than I trust the Canadian government?
Hell no.
They just went through the biggest mass experimentation on their own people, which I, you know, if I say it's a crime against humanity, that involves the Israeli government as much as it does the Canadian government.
Yeah, that's my biggest.
Look, Bibi started that, but then he was actually out of office when the vaccine finally got it.
So it's like they're all to blame.
It was a complete clutch.
That was, you know, what they did to us.
We had some of the worst, most ridiculous lockdown rules of anywhere.
And in fact, this, for the first few days of this missile thing, it felt like COVID again because we were stuck in the house, not wanting to go out.
You think you should say that because some people I know who are really smart are seeing some parallels.
It is.
Well, so now I'll tell you what gets different, though, is it, you know, like when you actually see where one of these missiles lands, you realize that this, look, it's, it's pretty vague.
And the volume now has dropped.
It's not, it's going to get bad.
It's bad in the north, actually, with Hezbollah until we could clean that out.
But from Iran, the volume, you know, now what they're doing is they're doing something much worse.
It's just psychological.
It's because they'll send one rocket at three in the morning and then they'll send another one at four in the morning and another one at five in the morning.
It's bloody annoying.
But it's not really killing anybody.
That's another new thing.
Yeah.
And it's just crazy.
Brian.
And then is there any?
I'm reading conflicting reports, although, I mean, it seems pretty accepted.
Is Israel using white phosphorus over?
No.
Listen, all of this white phosphorus, not white phosphorus.
I follow this for years.
We have illumination shells.
We sometimes use those at night, but you shoot something up in the air and it burns on the way down with a parachute.
It's not a weapon.
We don't use white phosphorus as a weapon anywhere.
So that's that, which is not, and using it as an illumination round is not illegal.
So that's it.
It's a bullshit.
Look, there's so much lying about what the IDF does, how it does it, where it does it.
And the bit that's hard to come to for outsiders to understand is the IDF is us.
My son is 19.
He's not in the IDF, but only because he's studying an engineering thing and he'll be in the Air Force next year.
It's like my other one is, my younger one is going to be 17 soon.
He's just starting his input into the army.
By next year, he'll be in the army.
We're all, I wasn't because I got here when I was 39 and they didn't want me.
Sorry.
I would have happily gone.
My wife served in the army.
I had no idea what she did when I married her.
And then one day, I married her here, but then we went to live in London and she came back to meet London.
And then soon after we were married in 2000, we're watching, or two was it early 2001?
I can't remember.
We're watching the television news and this very famous horrific footage of these two border guards were, they took a wrong turn and they wound up going into Ramallah.
They got lynched.
They got taken actually to a Palestinian authority police station.
This is when they called the wife of one of the soldiers while they were and they killed them and they tore them apart and ate them apparently and threw them out of the window.
My wife goes white.
Why did she go white?
And I'm looking at her.
She says that was my that was my boss's office.
The window that they came out of was she was so she did her army service in the window next door because that building, which was a Palestinian Authority police station by then, had been an Israeli army building in the middle of Ramallah when Ramallah was controlled.
And then, under Oslo, that building was handed over to the peaceful Palestinians for peaceful purposes.
And then she's watching on the news as someone gets thrown out of her boss's window.
That's the reality.
And everybody's got stories like that.
I love that you said that because this is something I don't think you would know unless you lived here.
Like you learn stuff about places only by living in them for a certain amount of time.
And even then, you know, it takes it, maybe you'll never become integrated.
But the IDF isn't this like, you know, outside conceptual thing that you just join if you want to.
The IDF is the population of Israel.
Every single young person goes into the army.
I think the girls go in for three years, the guys go in for four.
I might be on two and a bit, three for boys.
It's just going up a couple of months now.
It's a chunk when you're a young person.
I mean, these some of them just hit puberty, man, and they're off to the army.
And you hear some things.
I mean, most of the it's why it's why woke doesn't really get much traction here because reality is so much stronger than what you know.
My kids are totally immune to woke.
They are not going to give me transgender bullshit or any of this other stuff because looming over them in a year's time or two years' time is a reality wake up.
And you can't, you can't do bullshit when people are shooting at you.
And I think maybe it got complacent for a little bit, but October 7th has woken everybody up and it's real.
But this is the thing.
Everyone is connected.
Like, you know, when you know, when people, when that, when, when as many people died as died on October 7th, you know, I don't even want to tell you how many, you know, I know it's like, and then some of them, I live next door to one of the biggest cemeteries in North Tel Aviv.
I saw the funerals happening.
They were going past the door every day because they buried as many as quickly.
Everybody knew somebody, like, either directly or indirectly.
It was a lot of people, and it was a hard hit.
But the thing I wanted to like, not the army's not for everyone.
And I probably would have had a hard time with it myself at that age.
I wouldn't now, but I'm like way older.
But like, because they serve this time and they learn skills.
I mean, I knew a girl that I used to surf longboard with who was a helicopter mechanic.
And I was like, you're like the coolest human being.
Like, you do cool shit.
You can basically pick.
I had another person, the son of my PI, my PhD guy, who was a musician.
Like, basically, you can kind of pick what you want to do and excel at it.
If you want to be a foot soldier, you can do that.
If you want to be a helicopter pilot, you can do that.
You can join the Air Force, the Navy, whatever.
So people become, I think, don't quote me on this because I've heard bad stories as well.
But you become a little bit proud after you get over maybe what might be a little bit of stress about being so young going into the army.
You meet friends, though.
Become very close, lifelong friends.
Some people get married from it, but everyone's united by it because these are the children of the parents who also served.
So it's a very, very connected.
And it might sound to people like I'm Canadian.
You don't have to do military if you don't want to.
You can't even get conscripted.
That's right.
Right, David?
Yeah, well, but there's a reason why the Canadian hasn't basically no standing military and is right.
Exactly.
So, but, but I mean, I want to just jump in and say that it's a it's a beyond, it's a societal thing, which means that stages of it.
Sorry.
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Well, when it fails, like it did on October 7th as an institution, it wasn't the individuals that failed.
The individuals, some of them were unbelievable.
What I, you know, people who literally got in their cars from where you live and just drove for four hours with their own personal gun and just started fighting.
That happened.
But to get the institution on its feet, that took a long time.
Well, I'll tell you, the risk is always like, if you live in Israel, people are going to hold you responsible for everything Israel does.
If you support the government, they're going to hold you responsible for that.
And it's not just ridiculous.
It's stupid because then by that rationale, you hold all of the Iranian people responsible for what the Iranian government does.
You hold all of the Palestinian people for what the Palestinian government does.
Jews are different.
Jews have always, we've always been, you know, it's like if we were to apply, you know, stupid, stupid standards.
I mean, we don't blame all Muslims for every single one of the 50,000 terrorist attacks.
Some people do.
I mean, that's the some people do.
And that's, and some people hold all Americans responsible for every atrocity that the American government has done historically.
That was not why I wanted both of you on today.
I just wanted people on the ground to either dispel or confirm the myths or disinformation.
How many, I mean, how many of the bomb, how many times a day are bombs coming through?
And are the interceptor missile things working?
Because some people say that the Iron Dome is not working.
It's much less devastating.
Let me.
Okay.
So Iron Dome is largely useless for these large ballistic missiles.
I think that they are trying to use it on some of the cluster munitions.
So what's knocking out these ballistic missiles from Iran is Arrow 2.
I think we phased that out now, but mostly something called Arrow 3 and also something else called David Sling, which is lower down in the scale.
And the American FAD system.
I don't know how much they're using that, but those are the three options we have for knocking out ballistic missiles.
Ballistic missiles come from space and they arrive very, very, very fast.
And when they're coming down at this speed, Arrow and David Sling, the publicly stated numbers from the last round were around the 90% mark.
I think we're doing that, but these cluster weapons are splitting apart before Arrow can get to them.
And that's causing a bigger problem.
And then I think we're trying to use Iron Dome to catch the cluster bits, but again, they're coming in too fast for Iron Dome.
Iron Dome worked brilliantly.
And I've watched it for years get better and better and better because the other thing we have, which is which very few people understand the importance of, is we have this very detailed alert system, which alerts you by region.
Sometimes I can be standing on my balcony, which is in a thing called Tel Aviv across the Yaakon, the north, the northern part of Tel Aviv, and southern Tel Aviv and Ramat Ghan and some other places, the alarms can be ringing there, but I don't have an alarm.
And I will stand on my balcony.
And this was more with the Hamas stuff in 2007.
I would stand on my balcony and film those.
And then I would see all the lights going up and the little flashes.
And then the explosion sound would arrive 30, 40 seconds later because it's a long way away.
Iron OM really does work, but it does leave these little bits of shrapnel that come falling down.
And if you're outside when that happens and it hits you, you're going to be deaded or injured.
But it's not the same as what Hamas was never able to fire at us.
And even Hezbollah has hardly ever done, are these gigantic one-ton, 750-kilo, 1,000-kilo warheads that take out like an entire apartment complex, or they wipe out the Weizmann Center labs, which was like a whole years of cancer research were taken out by one missile that just was a direct hit.
Nobody was there.
You know, they were all, it was a weekend, and those missiles, they get through because shooting ballistic missiles out of the sky was unthinkable 10 years ago.
But we've done it.
The alert system is amazing.
But again, with the ballistic missiles, they kind of ring the alarm in a very large area because when they do take out one of these ballistic missiles, the interception can happen 10 or 12 or miles high.
And so when you take something out at 15 miles, the area over which the bits are going to spread is gigantic.
So they keep us all in our shelters for 10 minutes.
And again, it can take 10 minutes for this stuff to hit the ground.
10 minutes after the interceptions.
The sound of the interceptions, you've never ever heard anything like it unless you've worked with explosives.
And that's when it's 15 miles up in the sky.
The sound of these interceptions is beyond belief.
Iron Dome was loud.
These bigger ones are loud, loud.
It's a way of, we became desensitized to it when Hamas was doing it, and we shouldn't have done.
And when we had the first rockets, missiles from Iran, I think it became very clear to all of us living here that one way or another, we cannot go on living with this threat hanging over us.
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We have to eradicate the threat.
And the only real way I can understand to eradicate the threat is to not have a regime that wants to threaten us.
So did we drag America into this?
I don't believe so.
I think Trump's got his own China reasons.
I think he's got a million reasons to take down Iran, especially since Iran has been humiliating America since 1979.
And I think Trump is a guy who bears, who takes that personally.
And Iran has been murdering Americans for years and years and years and years.
And they've gotten away with it.
And this is payback.
This is payback.
And, you know, Israel tried to live with this stuff.
We tried to make peace.
We tried all of this nonsense.
Online, I only refer to it as the two-state delusion and the deceit process.
There was no peace process.
There was no two-state solution because it was never a solution.
It was only a delusion.
We cannot hand land to these people that is close to us.
I'm living just, my parents live just north of me in a place called Netanya.
Netanyahu is the narrowest part.
It's on the coast.
At the start of the 1967 war, Jordan shelled Netanya with artillery.
That was the start.
That was actually the kickoff of the 90, of what Jordan, how Jordan entered the 1967 war.
There's no accommodating this.
And that's why we're going to take and hold large chunks of Gaza.
We're probably going to have to take and hold southern Lebanon up to the Latani now because we just, because you can't live.
Oh, that's the other thing.
The kind of rockets that Hezbollah use, they use these ballistic ones, but then they also use anti-tank rockets that fly flat.
And we don't have any defense against those, except that our tanks have a defense, but the defense is just for the tank.
It doesn't cover a wide area.
So we've got, if you've got, you know, there were houses, literal civilians killed because a Hezbollah guy could get within one and a half kilometers of the border, look at the house across the valleys and just blow it up with a, with a missile that just goes flat.
We've got no defense against that.
So our only defense is to not allow people who want to kill us to hold land that overlooks us.
That's it.
And that's what we're going to do.
Going to take and hold the land.
And if Lebanon can get its act together and, you know, knock these people on the head, they can have their country back.
But I don't see why we're done living like meek little Jews.
And the power projection that we're doing in Iran now is, it's astonishing to me.
We've been flying a thousand kilometers and back day after day after day.
It's shocked me how competent we are at this.
Well, don't expect half of the chat to agree with you.
I don't care less.
Hey, chat.
By the way, we don't care.
We're well armed.
This is the point.
This is what we didn't have in 1939.
We didn't do.
Well, the problem, there's a number.
I know the response argument.
Hold on.
There's no point.
No, no, but I mean, there's no point even making them because I know what the response to the response argument is.
The bottom line, you're going to have a lot of Americans saying, this is your problem and tough noogies.
And you know what?
We would have done, I fully, fully believe that we would have done all of this on our own.
Look, you know, I see online all of this stuff about the fact that they've always been a few months or a year or two years away from a nuclear weapon.
Yeah, because every time they got close, we did something.
You know, whether it was in the background, whether it was killing some scientists or Stuxnet or all the other things that we've done over the years or bombing the reactor in Syria or bombing the reactor in Iraq, all of which we were criticized for at the time.
The song, one of my favorite songs, Neighborhood Bully.
Go listen to Neighborhood Bully by, oh, my head's gone now.
Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan's neighborhood bully on the album called Infidels, by the way.
That song's all about Israel.
It's a protest.
It's a pro-Israel protest song by Bob Dylan, the doyen of the left, apparently, in the anti-war movement.
Well, he was very, very proud of Israel taking care of business in Iraq and blowing up the Auss Iraq nuclear reactor.
We don't care.
And listen, the other thing I've come across now is Islamo-realism.
Like I went to like a private showing of an exhibition that's been put together by Shinbet of stuff they took from the terrorists that they killed on October 7th.
And it's their personal effects, it's their clothes, and it's all of the Islamic materials that they were carrying.
They were carrying Qurans and they were carrying little beautifully laminated lists of Quranic verses and the Capgon drugs they had and the medic kits they had.
All of this stuff's in a little exhibition that you can sort of ask to go and see and you can go see.
And the guy telling this to me, I was doing this tour with a guy called online, he's known as apostate prophet Ridvan.
And I had never met him before, actually, but I've known him online from Counter Jihad stuff for years and years and years.
He's a German ex-Muslim.
He grew up in a Muslim home in Germany.
He now lives in the States, and he's very much an ex-Muslim.
And he calls himself apostate prophet.
And we were both standing there listening to this guy, this captain from the Shinbet, telling us all about the Islamic connections and how they were quoting the Quran and all of this and these verses.
And I'm looking at Ridvan and I'm like, he's telling us this like it's new to him.
Like I didn't learn this 20 years ago when I first read the Quran.
Israel has woken up to a certain degree.
Not everybody.
Like you still can't go into a bookshop in Tel Aviv and buy a copy of the Quran in Hebrew, which is dumb.
We need to read that.
You know, it's like reading Mein Kampf.
Yeah, you should have read Mein Kampf when Winston Churchill said to everybody, here was the new Quran of faith and war, turgid, verbose, but pregnant with its message.
The message that was what Churchill described Mein Kampf as.
And he said, everybody should read this.
We should have done.
People didn't.
He laid out the plan.
The Quran lays out the plan.
I think we've woken up, though.
Well, there's no point.
I'm not even going to get into the arguments.
Everybody can have these arguments online, but I wanted to hear from the perspective of the two of you on the streets.
I'm going to go on with the show and cover stuff that's not related to Israel.
Tiffany Henyard, just coming back to some good old corruption in America.
Jess, where can people find you?
You're heavily censored on X, as far as I can tell.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I just can't get past.
Yeah, 128,000 men, and I just can't get past that number.
And it just keeps going backwards.
And when I make a like 128,000 people pressed a button because they were interested in something I said or whatever.
And when I make a post, it's only a few hundred that actually see it, not like it, see it.
So go to my substack.
I've been writing an article for almost a week now.
It's a two-parter because it became so involved.
It's about the piezoelectric human body, and it's going to be a very good read.
I've put a lot of effort into this.
It's very interesting and applies to everyone.
And I also put a little section in on an hypothesis that I have about how the shots, the COVID shots, might actually be buggering up the piezoelectricity of our tissues.
So stay tuned.
I'm hopefully going to publish that tomorrow.
And if anybody wants to go give Brian some shit on Twitter here, ordinarily, I'd say it's publicity, but this is for Brian.
Tell people where they can find you and where they can keep up with what you're doing.
I'm pretty much on X. I'm on a thing called Hive, but I'm on X because the hell.
I've become an Israeli.
I'm properly Israeli.
I was British.
Actually, I was born in South Africa.
I'm a South African.
I could talk like a South African.
I can call myself an African Israeli if I like.
Yeah.
Like, what?
Are you Jewish?
First of all, yeah, of course.
Yes.
Okay.
So I guess that's why I came here.
I'll tell you why I came here.
I'll give you this.
I was doing all this counter jihad stuff.
It was 2007 in the UK.
I just had my first child.
I looked around England and I saw that it was going to become an Islamic problem and Jews were not going to be welcome there.
And I saw what the BBC was saying about Israel.
I went and worked for three days.
I worked.
I was a management consultant.
I worked at Associated Press Television News' headquarters in Camden in 2003 when the Gulf War kicked off.
Wow.
And what I learned in that building was that the entire media is corrupted at source because the corruption was in that building.
That's where you're going to learn it.
That building would then feed the BBC and CNN and Fox, and they would all be fed from that building in Camden, in London.
And half the staff were Arab speakers in London, which is very strange.
And so all of the things I learned was that England and Britain would become untenable for Jews.
I couldn't raise Jewish kids unless I would put myself in a little Jewish ghetto.
So I, and my wife was Israeli, so she moved back and I moved to Israel and we raised Jewish kids in, as far as I can tell, the only, you know, it's either America or here.
And even then, I don't think America is going to be so great in the future.
Canada's going to go to shit.
Anywhere that's anywhere that's had mass Muslim immigration and especially poor Muslim immigration, not the right, you know, America for a long time had a kind of a different Islamic structure to it.
But your dearborns, you're Somalis, that's the same problem that Britain's got with the Pakistanis from the poorer parts of Pakistan.
And then you've got Morocco, Holland, each one of the countries in Europe's got a different bad problem.
That's why I moved to Israel.
And I think Israel is going to thrive because we've got a culture that's because we're positive.
We're having babies.
We're growing.
We're the only country, only decent civilized country in the world that's got positive birth rates.
That's us.
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Anyway, you can find me on X. Come give me some abuse, all of you.
I love you in the just up my numbers.
I also get nobody sees me.
I've only got 30,000 followers or something.
I stalled out for years because I was banned for saying, now write it out 100 times or I'll cut your balls off.
How dare you?
That is empowering talk in certain parts of the world.
Brian, well, Brian, first of all, it's good meeting you.
Jess, it's nice seeing you again.
And next time it'll be science-based and COVID-based, but at least now the world could hear from two people living in Israel and they are free to disregard everything you've said about what's actually going on in the streets of Israel.
Thank you guys both for coming on.
War is hell.
War is hell, but I'm having a good war.
I'm going to remove you on my end.
It's called kick.
No, stay safe and don't read the chat, guys.
All right.
Have a good one, Jess.
See you soon.
Bye.
All right, peeps.
Reading the chat is an exercise in it's unhealthy.
I can tell you that much.
I do it.
Do I look like I'm I think Brian looked he must I think I was doing the math.
He's 15 years older than me and he looks rather young.
I don't know if I'm just looking old and haggard because of the gray hair.
We are going to talk about some other stuff.
The only question is we're going to do it.
I think we're going to do it in the Locals After Party and the Rumble Premium After Party.
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And what the hell else was I just about to say?
We're going to go raid them.
And then we're going to talk Tiffany Henyard and the Save Act because as we roll out, I'm going to play a clip of Kara Casanueva.
I tend to mispronounce her name.
A great journalist for Lindell TV doing an update on the Save Act and why it's receiving opposition.
I know people don't want to go to Redacted either.
It's funny for the amount of people who are very, I'll say critical of Israel to be polite, they'll like redacted.
For the people who are defensive of Israel, they don't like redacted.
And there's nothing I can do to please everybody out there.
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