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The Sean Hartman Documentary: Interview w/ Father & Director; Savannah Guthrie's Mom Kidnapped & More

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Michael's Health Canada Concerns 00:14:31
Ladies and gentlemen of the interwebs, you might be wondering why you're looking at a video of a mountain in a big-ass cannon, and there's no darn good reason why, just because it's cool, some Russians triggering an avalanche with a cannon.
That is so much power.
End in an apple.
I could do this for fun.
They said this was in...
Colin Runn posted this.
Highest mountain in Russia, standing 82,000 feet above Celestia.
It does look fun.
But now I'm going to channel my inner Karen and say, won't someone think of the mountain goats that are all getting swept away in that man-made avalanche?
I presume there's a good reason why they're doing that.
But right now, what we're going to do is just make sure that we're live across all platforms because, again, using StreamYard out of necessity, because we have multiple people and I don't want anybody necessarily having a problem logging on today.
We're going to talk about a documentary that's going to be coming out next week about Sean Hartman, Dan Hartman's son.
You know, Dan, he's been on the channel many times, directed by Dean Rainey, who also directed a documentary on COVID called Why Can't We Talk About This? Jason Levine, independent Canadian journalist and his involvement in this.
And it's going to be interesting.
It's going to be depressing.
I was on with PragerU.
You know, the segment's going to be published in a bit.
We were talking about the absolute state of Canada from medical assistance in dying, aka euthanasia, or at this point in time, state-sanctioned murder, to immigration problems, to political relation problems with these United States of America.
But today we're going to talk about the thing that's pressing most, at least, you know, for some, there's ongoing lawsuits against Pfizer and Moderna in Canada because there's no PrEP Act immunity in Canada.
There are hold harmless clauses in the supply agreements with the pharma companies that produced what many people, rightly, in my view, believe to be a very toxic non-vaccine jibby jab that's caused immeasurable pain and destruction.
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to bring in everybody one by one.
I'm going to figure out the order in a bit and we're going to introduce everybody to the world.
If you haven't, if they don't already know who you are, I kind of like this order, but maybe I'll put Jason on top and I'll put Dan and Dean on the bottom.
Gentlemen, let's start from top to bottom.
Jason, tell everybody who you are, Dan, Dean, and then we're going to get into discussing this documentary on the tragedy that happened to Sean Hartman.
I saw it over the weekend and it's a very powerful documentary and hopefully it makes some ripples.
Jason, who are you?
I'm Jason Levine, independent journalist in Alberta, host of the Levine Show.
And in this particular documentary, I am the writer and producer to help make this documentary come together and reach a bunch of audiences all over Canada.
And Viva, thank you very much for having us on.
I think this is a very important documentary.
I really liked your rage posting or text to me as you were watching the documentary.
It is very upsetting.
It's a very emotional story that got put together here with Dean and Dan.
And I'm very pleased to bring it to Ontario first, and then we'll bring it over to Alberta shortly after that.
Dan, I think everybody knows who you are, but let them know again.
I'm the father of Sean.
My 17-year-old son died 33 days after his first Pfizer vaccine.
And we had to send his tissue samples to America to get the truth because in Toronto, they said his cause of death was unascertained.
They didn't know how he died.
They couldn't tell me how he died.
We got the proof we needed and launched the first lawsuit in North America against Pfizer for wrongful death.
And we're also suing Health Canada.
And Dean, I know that my audience will not necessarily know who you are because it's your first time on.
Who are you?
That's right.
I'm a filmmaker, independent filmmaker here in Canada, small town, Ontario.
Prior to the pandemic, I was making corporate videos, cooking shows with my wife, travel promos, all sorts of stuff.
Once the pandemic hit, a gentleman in my town was injured by the shots, ended up paralyzed in long-term care.
He was a retired filmmaker, so he had asked me to make a film about him.
And actually, Viva, you have a cameo in the film.
You actually are the inciting moment.
We do the interview with Michael, but I sit on it and I'm not sure what to do with it until I see your interview with Kayla Pollock.
And then I think, oh my gosh, Michael's not alone.
This is not happening just to him.
We've got to do something about this.
And then also, Jason, I only knew Jason through watching your podcast and your YouTube show, Viva.
So when he reached out, I was like, oh, I know who you are.
I'm kind of a fan.
You sent me the DVD a while back, and it took me so long to get to it because we didn't have a DVD player anywhere in the house.
So I had to go to Walmart and then we have a DVD player.
That's another amazing documentary.
Again, frustrating beyond all words.
I guess, Dan, we'll start with you.
I mean, I think everybody on my channel knows what happened to you, but without going into the weeds of it, I want to get to the current status of the lawsuits.
And then we're going to get into the documentary, but tell everybody what happened.
Well, Health Canada struck our lawsuit the first time.
They said they did not owe a duty of care to Sean, an individual duty of care.
Even though they're the people who told them to take it, they're the people who told them it was safe and effective.
They said they didn't owe Sean a duty of care.
So we appealed that.
And just recently, January 26, in Toronto at the Court of Appeal, we launched our appeal in front of three judges.
And now we have to wait probably two, three months to get a decision.
They can really take as long as they want.
There's no timeline.
And we received Pfizer's statement of defense in December.
And we've went over that and give them our replies.
So hopefully the next stage with that lawsuit will be discovery.
Jason, your involvement in this, I mean, what do you, you wrote or had a hand in the documentary?
I sure did.
So I got involved with Dan a couple years ago when I learned about his story on X. As you know, he's quite the advocate for his son in his search for answers in justice.
Had Dan on for documentary, or not documentary, a fundraiser right after the court dismissed the lawsuit against Health Canada for no duty of care.
And then we got to have a conversation.
When I was out in Ontario, I was recording for a different series I'm working on for about Alberta self-determination.
And my involvement in this one is I did all the interviews.
So I got Dr. Peter McCalla and Dr. Trope, Hodgkinson, Shoemaker, Theo Fleury, and a couple other parents who lost their children, Shauna Carroll and Alan Martin.
I had great interviews with all of them.
And then that's when Dean kind of reached out and said, I can help put this together.
That was a godsend.
And we started to work in December and worked very hard, long days, long weeks, long nights to put it all together for early January.
Dean, the documentary, Why Can't We Talk About This is about Dean.
Dean, how do you pronounce his last name?
Michael Michael.
Oh, all right.
And this is a man who also got a similar transverse myelitis to Caleb Pollock.
What's his story?
It's another one that I don't think has gotten, I say, much airtime cynically, but I don't think many people know about this as much as a few others.
What was OSHA's story?
Well, he, you know, was doing what he was told.
He believed that the vaccines, it was his duty to take them.
And I believe it was his fourth shot that he went in and like 24 hours later, he started getting tingling, losing feeling, and then he just collapsed and had some sort of neurological event.
And his doctors, all off the record, would say, yeah, this is probably connected to the vaccine, but he could not get anybody on record to say that.
So if you can't get acknowledged for that, you can't get help.
So my film kind of follows him aimlessly through the medical system here until he is ultimately left in long-term care.
Now, we are working on a sequel, which is, you know, positive because since the documentary's come out, he's gotten a lot of support and has lifted his spirit.
He's on some supplements that we're examining and following, and he's getting some results.
So we're just hoping because our first movie did not end very positively.
For sure.
Now, I forget now if this is known or not known.
Was Michael authored made?
Did he have the similar type situation as Kayla Pollock?
No, but you know, like many people, it's there as part of the process of something to think about.
Yeah.
And I'm going to bring this up here.
Nikki Hurley says they want to hide evidence for 15 years.
So the latest coming out of Canada as relates to Pfizer is that they're asking for 15 years to release the data on the shots.
Does anybody want to field that one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they're, yeah, they sealed them for 15 years.
It's more than just Pfizer.
It's vaccine injury documents, 3 million of them out of the government of Canada.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that Dan's submission to the appeals court was January 26th.
And then about two weeks later, Government of Canada sealing 3 million documents about vaccine injury for 15 years.
I'm going to double check this as we talk.
What's the rationale for sealing it?
The only thing I've heard so far is they say there's too many to go through and they can't handle it right now, which I think is quite the admission on how much injury there actually is reported.
And the VIS program itself has been bogged down due to the number of applications and not enough resources.
They did send another $36 million towards the VIS program to deal with it, but it's still not enough to deal with all the injury that's being reported.
This is from the Western Standard.
Health Canada seals vaccine injury records for 15 years.
And I'm just going to see if his disclosure emerged in an inquiry of ministry response detailing unusually long delays under the Access to Information Act.
Health Canada confirmed its longest current extension is 15 years, covering a request for vaccine and adverse drug reaction reporting dating back to 1998.
Why do I think it's more relevant to what's going on right now?
Dean, you were about to say something.
No, yeah, I mean, they're framing it as they're overwhelmed.
They can't.
It's a process thing, but really it's very convenient.
You know, it's a little bit incompetence, a little bit of corruption, it seems to me.
Now, Dan, you're speaking of vaccine injuries.
You applied for vaccine injury support program for Sean's death.
Initially, it was rejected.
It's been under appeal now for two and a half years since May 8th, 2023.
So it'll be three years in May.
Still no decision, ignoring my emails.
I just emailed them yesterday.
I said, what the hell is going on?
Hello.
And they didn't even answer me.
Three years for an appeal, and they still don't have a decision.
I think what they're doing is waiting to see what happens with court.
Because if they admit, yeah, Sean did die from it, then that's going to increase our chances in court.
And I think that's the big delay.
And not to ask strategy, has your lawyer looked into any way of expediting that or compel going with something of a mandemous demanding that as a public body they issue a ruling on something that they do what they're required to do?
Yep, he's sent them several emails, even telling them if we have to sue, we will give us an answer.
They're claiming they cannot find a pathologist to look at the evidence.
Well, there's hundreds of them in Ontario.
Just pick one.
It's all a bunch of bullshit.
A writ of mandamus compels a government body, most commonly, whatever, to perform a legal public duty.
I mean, I wonder now, as I ask it out loud, I'm not sure that the VISP is a government body.
I mean, I would wonder if now at some point, especially since certain damages might lapse, there's statute limitations for bodily harm if they take too long to even confirm or deny something.
That's wild.
Jason, what were you going to say?
I was going to say there's several people that are in the same boat as Dan.
They're fighting for appeals.
He got rejected.
I know several, even some of my followers and supporters are in the exact same boat.
And they're very, very slow moving.
In fact, Global TV did a whole program on the VISP program, being overwhelmed and probably in the wrong position to handle these.
It was with an accounting firm at the time.
So they made some changes.
It looks like they're trying to get some answers out there, but three years is pretty much the norm, Viva, when it comes to getting answers out of them.
So we're still supporting Dan, praying for him that we'll get an answer there.
But I think he might be right.
They might be wanting to see where his court case goes.
And it goes also leads to a whole lot of trouble for the government of Canada as the court hears what comes out of Pfizer.
I did want to also mention that the defense Pfizer has provided basically points the finger at the government of Canada and says, kind of, we didn't say it was safe and effective.
You guys did.
It's starting to point the finger.
So we're going to have that to go through in 2026.
It's the vicious circle of finger pointing where the government's going to say, well, we were told it was safe and effective.
And then the private, you know, Pfizer is going to say, well, you approved it.
So it's on you now.
And as far as I'm concerned, I don't think they're waiting to see where the court case goes.
I think they're just hoping there's a decision before they have to issue their ruling because it's true.
If they confirm the vaccine injury, it will definitely support your claim.
It'll be evidence in your claim against Pfizer or official recognition.
Oh, so now bring it back to this documentary called The Shot.
I know why it's called The Shot.
Who wants to field that question?
Well, because Sean was a hockey player, I think it's a brilliant title.
And even in the trailer, you can see a puck slide down into the O of the shot.
And it's just so appropriate because Sean took the shot and because he was a hockey player.
So The Shot is a great title.
Dr. Speaker's Cardiac Finding 00:15:32
And now, Dean, in the context of the documentary, you also interviewed a lot of the other, several other families who had had similar instances.
I mean, it's not going to be anywhere near of an exhaustive detailing or recounting of how many people have suffered vaccine injuries, but who do you interview in the movie that suffered vaccine injury as well?
Well, two parents, Alan Martin and Shauna Carroll, they both have 17-year-old daughters that passed away.
So even beyond injury.
17-year-old, healthy kids, took the vaccine, one maybe for social pressure, the other to take a trip to come to Canada, to see New York State.
And same scenario, just immediately sick within days, and then cardiac arrest, numerous cardiac events and passing away.
What goes into making a documentary like this, Dean?
I mean, I've never done it.
It's about slightly over an hour.
What sort of work goes into putting something together like this?
Well, you know, it's heavy.
This one was a heavy one.
I have a 16-year-old boy.
He plays hockey.
This could be any parent.
So I have to deal with that every day, which is nothing compared to the parents and like Dan.
But, you know, I had done the first documentary.
So I kind of had a shorthand of where to go with it because there were some things that I couldn't address in the first documentary that I was, you know, ready to address here.
Jason had done some phenomenal interviews.
He's very good with everybody that he spoke to, and everybody was really open and honest.
And then we just collected receipts because it was really important for us to not just have some talking heads, sharing opinions, but we wanted to back this all up.
And I dug in and sort of made a reel to take people on a trip through memory lane of all the messaging and coercion that happened during those years and what our media and politicians were saying and all that.
It's amazing.
I actually forgot in the rage that I was in, that I was at rage texting only to Jason.
I thought I was texting to Dan also.
And then when Dan said, what do you think of the movie a few days later?
I was like, oh, you weren't in on that exchange.
Let me just, can I?
I'm going to play the, if you don't mind, I'll play the full promo.
I think everybody should watch this.
Welcome back to Cincinnati, where medical personnel have been working on Bill Safety DeMar Hamlin for the last nine minutes.
Hamlin made a hit, got up, took a couple of steps, and then just fell to the ground.
In 2021, with the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines, we witnessed cardiac arrests in athletes like we've never seen before.
The evidence is getting stronger all the time, to the point, in my opinion, where it's difficult to argue that the vaccine has not had terrible consequences.
Multiple research reports show that heart inflammation risks tied to the vaccines may be far greater and maybe even more dangerous than previously reported, particularly among young men.
Unfortunately, my only son had to have a shot to play hockey.
He was forced into it, coerced into it, told it was safe and effective after my son Sean took his first Pfizer shot.
He was found dead on the floor beside his bed on the morning of September 27, 2021.
There's tens of thousands of others' children that have been severely harmed by this COVID-19 gene therapy.
And so we launched a lawsuit against Pfizer for wrongful death.
We also launched a lawsuit against the government of Canada for fraud and deceit.
I miss my boy.
I wanted back, and I know he's never coming back.
And the combination of rage and sadness is powerful, people.
Please join me in the fight and help me beat them for Sean and for everybody.
All right, let me take this back out in a second here.
Finally, you know, the DeMar Hamlin one is a story that I think many of us have forgotten.
First of all, Dean, the doctors that you talked to in the context of this movie documentary, some of them we all know.
Who were the experts that you picked the brains of for this movie?
Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. James Thorpe, Dr. Chris Shoemaker, Dr. Hodgkinson, right?
I'm sorry, I forget to pronounce it.
I'm terrible at names sometimes.
Jason did all the interviews for me.
Do you want to chime in, Jason?
Sure, yeah.
That's Dr. Roger Hodgkinson.
And it was kind of a blessing, Viva, that all of them, there was no script at the time.
I just sat down, had open conversations.
I had an idea of where I wanted to go with things, get their opinion on things, the information that they released.
Like Dr. Peter McCullough, he did a study on the increase of heart issues amongst athletes and found a tenfold increase after the vaccine was released.
So getting him involved was fantastic.
Dr. Thorpe was really good at laying out how duty of care was necessary and informed consent was necessary.
Dr. Roger Hawkinson brought kind of a human aspect to it because as a physician and as somebody who's done autopsies, it was really important for him to get his information out.
And then Dr. Chris Shoemaker brought some more studies to the table to talk about, for example, the discovery of black hearts amongst the vaccinated when they're working a lot harder than they should be, 50% harder than they should be.
There's a lot of sugar in there, and they're showing up in MRIs as black hearts.
So all of these together, the experts, everything we put in there is backed by the receipts, as Dean says, whether it's from the FDA, CDC, peer-reviewed papers.
And we had to also be very careful in what we put into this one, Viva, because we didn't want to leave speculation in there or things that we couldn't back up.
So there's other people that's involved, like Dr. Coe, Cole, and Dr. Speaker, but we couldn't put things in that we didn't have the receipts for.
So we're very careful that way.
Let me bring this up here.
Everyone has to refresh their memory of DeMar Hamlin.
Is the man he had, I forget now what they explained it as.
It was like some heart condition that they said.
Cardiac event.
Yeah, well, because they say he got hit in the chest and that it was some sort of like heart reaction that is like it's never happened before in football.
But then afterwards, when he gave, you know, was giving a softball interview, this was one of the answers that he gave, and it sort of shocked everybody.
How did doctors describe what happened to you?
What?
That's something I want to stay away from.
That's something.
Yeah, that was the commentary on it.
That was the interview where he gave where it very much looked like he was told not to discuss the heart condition that he got or how he ended up with cardiac arrest in there.
Dan, I know what went into you finding doctors to confirm what happened to yours to Sean.
Tell people what you had to go through to get A, to find a doctor, what they ultimately found and how this coincides with the broader trends of what we're observing in terms of what they're now sort of acknowledging as being risks and actual health consequences from the jab.
Well, it wasn't easy.
Nobody in Canada would help me.
None of the pathologists would look at Sean's autopsy.
And then Dr. Cole reached out and said, I can help you, but I need his tissue samples.
So I asked the lab in Toronto where they did his autopsy, can I please send the tissue samples?
And at first they said no.
And I thought that was really weird.
And then Dr. Cole did an interview about it.
He didn't mention Sean's name, but he did mention that I've asked for tissue samples and was denied.
Then I don't know if they saw that or what, but then they gave him the tissue samples.
And now his tissue samples are back in Canada, going under further study with Dr. David Speaker and other medical experts that will be joining us and testifying.
And the data is there, the proof is there.
Dr. Speaker found something that Toronto mysteriously missed.
I can't talk about it because it'll be used in the trial, but Sean did die from his shot.
And all the people in the world who say, I'm lying or I'm grifting, just admit it.
Okay.
If it's so rare, like you all say, then Sean was one of the rare ones.
It's that fucking simple.
Dan, when Sean went to the hospital, I remember people say, well, did you sue the doctors?
And you filed a complaint that was dismissed.
Refreshed my memory on what the doctor noted in his observations.
He did note a proximity to the shot and then didn't do what is widely regarded as being now, say, standard protocol tests to do if there's a suspicion that it's in proximate relation to the shots.
Yeah, he didn't do a D-dimer test.
He didn't do a troponin test.
Sean had brown circles under his eyes and a rash and vomiting and an extremely sore shoulder opposite to his injection shoulder, which I've been told by five different doctors that if you're having heart problems, the pain can travel over to your other shoulder.
That's why he was experiencing pain there.
He just sent him home with a pain reliever for his shoulder, and then Sean died.
I tried to go after that doctor.
I filed a complaint with CPSO, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario.
They found him not guilty.
And the really bad part is I can't name this doctor or I can be sued.
That doesn't make any sense to me, but I've been told I cannot name the doctor who saw him in emergency.
I would love to, but I can't.
I don't know who's going to be best to answer this between Dean and Jason.
The risk is that, you know, we hear of the names of a few, say, a dozen, half dozen people who've been injured.
You got Trista Martin.
You have Maddie DeGari, Sean Hartman, Kayla Pollock.
And then the risk is people think, well, okay, there's only a half dozen dozen prominent names, which means that this is exceedingly rare.
Dean, Jason, like, what do either of you know in terms of the prevalence of injury?
I mean, I know you know from your communities, but like what is the risk that people think this is only a one-off or a six-off or a dozen-off and not appreciate the full impact of what's going on?
Well, what I've learned with all my interviews and other conversations is people don't realize that they were vaccinated.
So the number is very low because people don't even realize it.
And that's why these kinds of documentaries are important to help the families that may have lost somebody or suffering through things themselves.
Might be able to help them make the connection.
And this is something that happened with Alan Martin after he lost his daughter.
He started looking online to see what was this?
What could this have been?
And VAX wasn't on the top of his list as a reason why he lost his daughter.
But it was through finding information and finding Dan's story and looking more into it that he realized, oh my gosh, this may have been the problem with his daughter as well.
So I think that number is very low simply because a lot of people are in denial that they were injured and a lot of people still don't even know that they were injured.
They just thought something else is going on.
But that's the value of the work that Dan's doing and getting this out.
A lot more people are learning what could be wrong.
Going into the peer-reviewed information literature, taking a closer look, and maybe having those conversations with doctors who at first wanted to have nothing to do with this, but I think more and more of them are starting to stand up now.
I'm looking here just to see if there's any stats on this.
As of mid-2025, more than 3,300 applications, specifically 3,317, reported in July 2025, have been filed with the vaccine injury support program.
I don't want to make this political, but I'm going to because politics ruins everything.
Dean, Dan, Jason, any word from any conservative members of parliament in terms of discussions about formal inquiries about getting involved, or are you guys literally the David versus the Goliath because nobody's paying attention?
Well, yeah.
So with my first film, I'm lucky enough to live in a riding where our provincial representative is Bobby Ann Brady and she's an independent.
So she came out and supported and she's been a big voice and she appeared in the movie.
We have Leslie Lewis is our conservative MP here and she has sent me an email congratulating me on the films.
And we've spoken in person, but nothing publicly.
Matt Strauss is another MP from Kitchener Hepsfler.
He has watched the deaf documentary.
He said it is fantastic.
He will not speak about it.
I actually tried to hurry up to get my first documentary done in time for the election because I naively thought it could be an issue to talk about and it wasn't.
And I was told because I did some campaign videos for a conservative member who was running that they were told not to talk about this.
This is a no, this is a no-go topic.
So that's enormously disappointing because it's a uniparty problem.
And to back up what Dean's saying there, we're getting no opposition to the sealing of the documents from the Conservative Party right now either.
You don't hear Polyev saying that these need to be out in the public.
We need to unseal these or don't seal them at all.
I do believe Dean's correct.
He mentioned one name there that I did reach out and was going to come on my show and have a conversation.
And then he asked to postpone a reschedule.
And then I haven't heard back from him since.
So Dean's correct that they've been asked not to speak about this.
I just read a chat over in Rumble.
It says, Mr. Sauerkraut says, remember, Viva, we have no political opposition in Canada.
I do want to bring this up because it's not a question of being doom and gloom.
It's a question of understanding that these are the concerns of the people.
And this is Richard Barris, who does polling out in the States and says would be a massive political win seen as real change that impacts most people.
74.4% agree drug companies should not be immune from suit if their vaccines cause injuries, including half who strongly agree.
67.6% are more likely to support a candidate who advocates, quote, making drug companies responsible if vaccines cause injury.
I say you've got an effective uni party in Canada, and I don't want to be too doom-pilled for Canada, but there is, I mean, other than Maxine Bernier CPC putting out some, I say, tweets, not in a minimizing sense, there's no meaningful political movement to even contemplate holding pharmaceutical companies liable for the injuries caused by their product.
No, the closest we have in Canada would be Danielle Smith, who is fighting, and she did a report here in Alberta, the Dr. Davidson report, which did say young people and pregnant women should not be taking it.
That hasn't gone as far as everybody wants to see it go, but that's as far as we've gone with elected officials.
But Maxine Bernier reached out to me just before this call.
He's going to be in Ottawa to support the film as well and make sure that he can do what he can to bring some awareness to it.
Dan, I dare ask a stupid question.
Any state-funded media reach out to you recently or ever?
CBC, Global News?
Well, when Global News did that piece on VISP, they called me and said, are you interested in being on TV to do an interview?
And I said, absolutely.
Mainstream media.
It's my chance of a lifetime.
And then for some reason, they didn't do it.
Anomaly in Media Coverage 00:05:25
Sean was included in the online portion, but I didn't get a chance to be on TV.
And nobody will talk about this.
Nobody will talk about Sean.
None of the leaders of the three parties will talk about it.
I mean, Maxime does, but to be honest, the poor guy doesn't have a chance.
So, I mean, Pierre won't speak about it.
Liberals won't speak about it.
NDP won't speak about it.
And I don't know what it is.
They're pretending it's not happening.
Hold on.
And it's disgusting.
None of them are ever going to get my vote until they talk about it.
Did Global News, for those who don't know, Global is like, you know, one of Canada's, it's not quite as bad as the CBC because it's not fully subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
But my goodness, do they get subsidies indirect by way of advertising and whatever?
Did they do the interview and not include it?
Or did they just ultimately not even call you for the interview?
They didn't call me for the interview.
They said Sean will be included in the online portion.
And I questioned them.
I said, well, you said I could be on TV.
And they basically told me, don't worry, it'll get more attention online than on TV.
On TV is only a short little piece.
So I don't know.
And other than that, CBC, Communist Broadcasting Corporation of Hadzio Canada, no major Canadian outlet has contacted anybody for your story, Dan.
Nope.
And I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
So I guess they're worried about that angle.
I've had every vaccine there is, known to man, except this one.
I had a bad feeling about this one.
And I begged Sean not to get it.
And the sad part is I didn't even know he took it until the day he died.
The coroner had to tell me.
I had no idea he was rushed to the hospital four days after his shot because I don't talk to my ex.
We don't get along.
So I have to live with all that pain and the knowledge that Sean's gone.
And all they need to do is talk to me and let me tell my story like you do, Viva.
It's not an anti-vax story.
It's the truth.
And that's all I wanted the chance to say.
What happened to me?
What happened to my son?
And everyone just pretends like it's not happening.
It's disgusting.
Dean, your original documentary, did it get, I would say meaningful, did it get any interview requests from legacy media up in Canada?
I couldn't even get a theater to take my booking when I offered them money.
I got a little bit of support from some local journalists, some independent local smaller radio stations, but no.
I have a very good relationship with a educational distribution company for media.
And they've taken all the shows, cooking shows.
I have a homebrew show they've taken.
I sent this, my first film.
Why can't we talk about this to them?
And I said, it's not anti-vax.
It's just a story about what happened to a gentleman in my town.
You have plenty of pro-vaccine films on your platform.
Maybe there's space for one that just can show you what can happen sometimes to some people.
And they watched it.
They said it was fantastic.
They wanted to run it by their university clients.
And the university client said, uh-uh, we're not going to don't take it.
It's got no value, no scientific rigor.
It's just a story.
We don't want it.
And so they had to refuse it.
And I just thought, oh, what?
We're in a new world now.
I've never seen anything like this.
So it's part of the story is what, yeah, like Dan says too, why aren't we talking about this?
Why can't we talk about this?
It is.
It's shocking.
It's utterly depressing because if it is a one-off anomaly, then so be it.
You'd think you'd want to highlight the fact that it's a one-off anomaly or a six-off anomaly.
The fact that we know that it's not.
So they're sealing the vaccine injury information for 15 years.
There's no opposition from the so-called opposition, so-called Conservative Party of Canada.
There is no meaningful political push to change any legislation to go after the pharma companies.
Canada seems to be happy with forgetting the last five years and moving on, closing their eyes and hoping that their hearts hold out for as long as they would otherwise have.
And that's basically it.
Not to sound too doom-pilling here.
Well, the files aren't exactly sealed.
I don't know why it was worded like that.
It's not like nobody can get their hands on them.
You can, but to file a freedom of information request could take up to 15 years.
That's the thing they're saying.
Now, why is that when they said it's very, very rare?
Why would it take 15 years to get a request in?
So that's what people don't understand.
There's thousands and thousands and thousands of cases.
That's why it takes 15 years when mainstream media was pushing it safe and effective and it's rare that anyone gets injured.
Then why would it take you 15 years to get back to people?
There's a question in our locals community, Dan.
I'm going to rephrase it in a way that's going to be less, not divisive, but just when Sean got, Sean was 16 or 17 when he got the shot.
He was 17?
17.
What was the age at that time that kids could get it without the consent of their parents?
I remember it was like 14, and then I think they were even going as low as 12 at schools.
It was 12.
12.
Anyone, any child, 12 and older in Canada could get it without their parental consent.
That alone should be crime.
That alone is enough.
12 And Under 00:05:34
I won't say finish my thought.
That is enough to make people lose it.
That was actually one of the red lines in the sand in Quebec where they amended the Youth Protection Act to make parental authority not the overriding principle.
Now it's the government that can decide.
And they decide, you know, 12 years olds can make these decisions.
Holy hell.
Dean, what are you going to do to, I mean, my bullhorn is yours, but what are you going to do?
And between the three of you to get this documentary on blast, and what is its anticipated release exposure, for lack of a better word?
So we're doing a premiere February 8th in Barry, close to Dan.
And then we're going to head out on the road and we're going to go to Ottawa and Peterborough, Whitby, Oakville, Hamilton, my hometown here.
We're going to bring it here.
We're just, you know, hop in the car and take the film to whoever wants to see it and who will have us, basically.
Jason will do the same thing in Alberta.
It's good when you see it with community because we can visit afterwards.
We can answer questions.
We can talk and people can be heard.
For six years, nobody can feel like they can talk about this.
There's so much stigma attached to this that it's really important when you get to watch it with other people.
And so we're excited about that.
Going out, meeting people, and we'll just keep going to wherever we can do screenings.
You can go to supportshawn.ca.
You can request a screening anywhere in North America.
We'll help you out.
Jason will coordinate that.
We'll get you the film, help you with ticketing.
And then ultimately, we'll release it for streaming because it is a fundraiser for Dan to in his lawsuit against Pfizer.
And then we'll be selling DVDs.
I know, Viva, you got a DVD player now.
So you can't.
I was shocked.
It was $50 for a DVD.
I mean, the technology, the lesson of life, technology becomes cheaper over time.
And the player is cheaper than the DVD itself because I probably charged $30 for those.
But, you know, people really want a physical copy.
And in the world of streaming, you really can't trust it.
You don't know if it's going to get taken down.
If it's on a third party, you don't know if it could get re-edited.
Back up on the streaming.
I'm like, digital re-editing is when you really think you're going crazy.
When you're like, that was, I know something was in that when I first saw it, or I know that wasn't in it when I first saw it.
Are you going to try to get down to the States and have some screenings down here?
Absolutely.
If we can arrange it.
I think there's some people down there that are interested.
Jason will talk more about that.
Yeah.
So I've reached out to Dr. Peter McCalla and this suddenly died suddenly guys as well.
And Viva, we'd love to come to Florida and maybe do a screening with you as well in the near future.
We're doing our best to try and raise funds for Dan and raise awareness for Dan.
But like Dean said, at some point, we will release it digitally for everybody else to watch as well.
What's the primary link for the ability to support for those who want to?
SupportSean, S-E-A-N dot C-A.
You can donate there to the Gifts and Go that Dan's had for quite some time.
You can help out by buying some of the merch that Dan offers.
We'll be putting up pre-release or pre-orders for the DVD.
And you can go see the screenings and request a screening on that website.
So that will be the hub for everything about this documentary and to support Sean.
Let me, I'm going to get to some American stuff.
So when you guys are off, I'm going to get to some stories in America and also some, I say positive.
It seems America's sort of headed in the right direction in that there's massive political support, at least among the, you know, the general population, among the people to strip these freaking pharma companies of the immunity that they've been given.
And it's going to be a big issue.
Hopefully it starts to turn the tide here.
Let me bring this up over here.
I'll get to Bill Tong afterwards.
Viva, if we understand Canuck politicians as we do, only time someone, if we understand Canuck politicians as we do, only time someone like Pierre Pollier will acknowledge this atrocity will be when his political survival depends on it.
No, it'll be even more cowardly than that.
It'll be when it's popular and acceptable to do it and when he believes that it's politically expedient to do so.
Ginger Ninja just says, all four of you are our heroes.
May I ask at some point, will this documentary be available for streaming after the, okay, we got that one as well.
Yeah.
No, you guys, you're doing, you're doing the Lord's work.
I mean, I offer, I do what I do what I can.
I have a big mouth and relentless, relentless ADHD.
So it makes it, it makes it easy and fun.
But we'll continue putting this on blast.
Everyone, go one by one.
Tell us where people can find you.
I'll put all the links in the pinned comment afterwards, starting with Jason.
Where can people find you?
How can people support the work that you're doing?
You can go to my website, thelaveenshow.com.
You'll find all my socials there, all my platforms there as well.
And if you want to support me, you can become a member and supporter of our show.
You get extended interviews every single day as we do those.
And I'm looking forward to working with Dean on our next documentary about the Russian mountain goats because that was a pretty amazing shot that they did over there.
So maybe we'll have to follow up on that one.
Dan.
Answers for Sean, answers number four, S-E-A-N on X.
And I'm also on Facebook, just under Dan Hartman.
There's a picture of Sean in my profile pic.
It's easy to find me.
And Dean, you do great work.
Making documentaries is, I mean, I think it's a beautiful thing.
And they're fantastic.
Tell people how they can support you.
So you can go to rainymedia.com, R-A-N-I-R-A-I-N-E-Y Media.com.
You can watch the film.
Why can't we talk about this there?
You can also support me because I'm still paying for that film.
But I think it's important that we make these films.
And, you know, there's a lot more stories out there that need to be told.
And you can also follow me on Facebook.
That's where we're most active, rainy media.
Political Pressure Matters 00:03:06
Thank you.
All right, gentlemen, I'm going to go on to some American stuff.
I'm going to end with a bit of a quasi-white pill after you, after I, I hate the word kick or remove you from the stream.
Thank you all very much for coming on to talk about this.
It's the documentary will enrage you and it will enrage you to be reminded of what we all went through collectively and the victims of it that have all but been, I would say abandoned, but abandoned meant that attention had been given to them in the first place, ignored by the Canadian government.
And it's inexcusable.
It's an atrocity.
It's a crime against humanity.
And I don't see there being any justice in Canada.
Maybe a little bit of turning of the tide in the States, but fingers crossed.
And other than that, you just hope there's cosmic justice for what there will not be justice for on this earth.
But gentlemen, thank you all very much for coming on.
Thank you, Viva.
I got you.
Once again.
Pleasure.
All right.
And that's it.
I want to bring up that poll because that poll is not irrelevant.
And people say, all you do is complain.
I don't trust polls in general.
In fact, in general, I distrust polls.
I trust Richard Barris and I trust this.
And maybe it's because I'm in the silo.
And this is what I know that the people in my silo are vehemently, I say, in support of or in opposition to.
This needs to be policy for the upcoming midterms.
You know, what's interesting is there's been talking about black pillars and pannikins.
And it's very interesting.
You see this in real time where people say, things are better than you're saying.
And don't complain and don't panic.
Then you get to the point where everybody then predicts what you've been forewarning about as though it was a foregone conclusion.
Well, you know, the party that's in power always loses the midterm.
Bullshit.
Okay.
There are policy decisions that can be implemented right now that can start turning this tide.
And one of them is going full throttle against these farm companies.
Now, I know what people are saying.
It's not going to happen, Viva.
Not with, it's not my nickname for Pam, but it's other people's nickname, Pay to Pay Plam, Plam, Pam, Pay to Play Pam.
Not going to happen with Pfizer's lawyer.
With enough political pressure, you can make it happen.
Political pressure in the absolute lawful and persuasive manner.
The funny thing is that, you know, people, there's no persuasion about lawlessness.
That's the amazing thing.
That's why these idiots up in Minnesota, they're not persuading anybody.
They might be intimidating some people into silence or political subservience.
They're not persuading anybody.
So you don't persuade anybody with lawlessness, criminality, or non-intellectual endeavors in terms of changing the political tide.
We can do this by 2026.
And you can do this by bringing this to the attention of those who are running.
If the candidates are representing the will of the people, my goodness, politics is an industry where things can change overnight.
And so the amazing thing is you say, no, no, no, everything, don't trust the polls.
Crumble Rant Redux 00:03:47
Everything is going good.
Republicans are going to crush it in 2026.
Don't listen to the black pills and the pannikins to the very same people.
Literally, you can go find it in their timelines saying, oh, yeah, well, you know, the party that's in power always loses the midterms.
It won't be that bad.
It's exactly like what happened in Canada when I was out there constructively criticizing Pierre Polyev, saying this tact that you're taking in this election is going to lose.
And then people were saying, nah, Viva, it's going to be a supermajority.
Then it's going to be a majority.
And then when what I said was going to happen happened, then it becomes, well, it would have been much worse.
It would have been a super majority for the liberals had Pierre not done what he did.
That is what you call motivated reasoning, moving the goalposts.
There's time yet.
And let's get it done.
Now, with that said, I wanted to read the other crumble rant, which was contextually not the best time to read it.
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And we got another crumble rant that came in.
Will to push for Ward.
Oh, sorry.
That's will to push forward.
Viva, Dan, Mr. Dan Hartin, these are people spreading this knowledge around.
Many hearts bleed for you.
This is a fight that must never end.
God be with you.
I agree.
This is a fight.
People need to end in jail.
It needs to be that in 10 years, we are reading that Pfizer just paid the biggest criminal and civil settlement in history, even bigger than the one it paid 10 years ago.
That's what has to happen.
Now let's go over to our locals community for a few seconds before we get into a couple of other news items.
By the way, we are, let me just make sure here.
Yeah, we're on StreamYard today because I had a number of guests.
So everybody can come over and watch on locals and it won't be behind a paywall today.
If you like the work that we do here, come over to locals.
Today, no paywall.
If you want to support the work that we do, 10 bucks a month, 100 bucks a year if you get the entire year.
Best community out there.
Every day after our daily stream on Rumble at three o'clock, we have our after party.
And by the way, tonight, oh, I almost forgot.
Tonight, Viva and Lord Buckley go to the movies.
If you don't know who Viva and Lord Buckley is, well, you know who I am.
Lord Buckley is Mark Grobert.
And he's been on the channel a bunch, great, become a great friend in this adventure of life that we've gone through.
We're going to start something where we get out of the world of politics and we get into the fun stuff and we're going to review movies.
And tonight is our inaugural Viva and Lord Buckley go to the movies.
We are reviewing the classic best movie of all time.
Put that in quotes.
You don't know where I'm going with this, Casablanca.
And my joke is, will my review be that Casablanca is Oasis or the Beatles?
And you're going to have to tune in to find out.
Let me give you all the links so you can come over to watch that because it'll be fun.
Link and uh, that is uh, yeah, Viva and Lord Buckley.
Subscribe, make sure you don't forget about it.
It'll be weekly if my wife doesn't kill me living on the internet, but she won't.
We got to watch Casablanca yesterday.
The kid, our youngest, watched Casablanca.
And I said, He's either got to read a book or watch this movie.
And it was 50/50.
When a kid sits down and looks at a black and white movie shot in whatever the 40s or 50s, uh, we watch it.
I had never seen it before.
So, tune in, and you'll find out: Oasis or the Beatles, Leonard Cohen, or Bob Dylan.
Who knows?
What does that even mean?
We'll find out at seven o'clock tonight.
Uh, let's see what's going on in our locals community.
Did I get another uh Viva?
When a government puts, let me bring this one up because this is a fair point.
Uh, tippers away down, comes tips, etc.
Okay, hold on, go to tipped.
Here we go.
Are these guys ask these guys if they're ready to become the states and live as men?
Oasis or Beatles? 00:05:18
I know there's a lot of Canadians who want to get the hell out, and they are getting out in record numbers.
And that's how you have brain drain, financial drain, and that's how a country goes from being what Venezuela was to what Venezuela is in no time at all.
See the Vale says, Viva, when government puts a 15-year moratorium on a FOIA, can the government be sued for failure to reply within a reasonable time or a pro or a proper time as it is part of a court case to force the government?
Well, in the court case, they'll have discovery options.
Uh, and they would probably argue that uh, you know, this injuries are unrelated to the causality of Sean Dan Hartman's claim.
So, that's what they would argue in the court case.
But in court cases, you have discovery and it has to happen within the court case.
That's different.
You have these mechanism called the mandamus or mandamus, depending on how you pronounce it.
And it's Latin, but it's to compel the government or a government body to do what it's legally required to do.
And so, you have FOIA departments, and they're legally required to provide access to information.
If they say, Yeah, we'll give it to you in 100 years.
Well, that's patently unreasonable because it's not even within the useful realm of what they are legally compelled, legally required to do.
So, 15 years seems ridiculous.
Who's going to fight it?
It blows my flipping mind that the so-called conservative, so-called opposition party of Canada doesn't think that that's a good fight to pick up for the people.
But, flip side, Canadians are the most propagandized people on earth outside of North Korea.
And I don't even know if there's broad public support for that type of war on pharma or war on the VISP.
I don't know if there's even that much public support for that in Canada.
And that's that.
And then Bill Tong says, Um, before we get into the next subject, we're going to talk about uh Savannah Guthrie.
It's uh, it's a crazy story, and I have not some thoughts on the story.
I have some thoughts on the reactions because I knew it was going to happen.
It's going to be uh Erica Kirk 2.0 in terms of how people are going to hypothesize things in the absence of any concrete evidence in the time being, though we'll see where this goes.
King of Bill Tong says, I really hope that happens, but at this point, I'm not very positive that any of these damn criminals will pay the price.
Apologies, I'm a little blackpilled on convictions.
You and me both, King of Bill Tongue.
Did you all hear what happened with Savannah Guthrie?
She's the NBC ABC.
She's a left-wing host who's been very critical of Trump.
And I do, under the circumstances, as you say that you feel weird saying, I love Trump's response, which is we're going to put all the resources that we have at this kidnapping, apparently, of her mother.
This is why we love Trump.
You know, in a way, sometimes politics is the divisive thing.
And in another way, sometimes Trump just puts politics aside and does what's right and righteous, even to people who have not been politically supportive of him.
Savannah Guthrie, I forget what station she's on, but we'll get that in a second.
Her mother has apparently been kidnapped.
84-year-old mother, heart condition, health issues, was kidnapped from her home.
Last report I read is that there was evidence of blood dripping out of the house and an alleged ransom note sent to TMZ and other outlets.
This is from Y Entertainment, People magazine.
Alleged ransom note for Savannah Guthrie's mother sent to TV station included concerning and very sensitive information, says KOLD.
CBS News reported that its Tucson affiliate, KOLD News, received a ransom note from Nancy Guthrie, the mother of today's co-host, Savannah Guthrie, as the search for the missing 84-year-old widened.
According to CBS, Pima County Sheriff's Department investigators analyzed the letter, are taking it very seriously and shared it with the FBI, whose agents decided to share it with the NBC host.
The note, which KOLD received February 2nd, contained very specific details about the home and what Nancy Guthrie was wearing that night.
Report added, investigators wanted to keep the note private and that Tucson station agreed not to broadcast any information about it.
TMZ got it, received a ledger letter demanding payment for the risk.
Apparently, they're demanding payment in Bitcoin.
I'm going to play you a video of Savannah, her sister and brother, on the one hand, trying to speak to their mother, but also on the other hand, demanding some form of proof of life, assurance that their mother, who's 84 and apparently needs medication on an urgent basis, is still alive.
Pima County Sheriff Nano said TMZ obtained a copy of the note and reported on it before contacting his office.
USA Today Network has not viewed or substantiated the validity of either note.
Authorities believe Guthrie, 84, was abducted sometime overnight between January 31st and February 1st, was last seen at 9.30 p.m. Saturday.
TMZ report came less than an hour after Nanos told reporters that investigators with his office and the FBI were tracking down any and all leads, but could not confirm whether Guthrie's disappearance was a random incident or targeted.
There'd be one hell of a coincidence if it were targeted.
Who got ransom letter for Nancy Guthrie?
TMZ got one.
KOLD got one.
What does the ransom note say?
TMZ kept the details of the note vague.
The note, the reporter, demanded millions in Bitcoin cryptocurrency and provided specific Bitcoin address.
TMZ reported that it has verified the validity of the address.
Ransom Note Revealed 00:07:02
I'll take this out now and share some immediate thoughts.
It would be way too coincidental if this were random, although there are random kidnappings, I guess.
It would seem almost implausible or unbelievable that it would be random.
Flip side, interesting dynamic that's invariably going to come out of this is you're going to have people complaining about the anonymity or the untraceability of Bitcoin addresses, crypto addresses, or wallets, I should say.
And you'll recall after the Butler shooting, about which we know as much as we're going to know, that there was discussion about encrypted accounts because Thomas Crooks apparently had a number of encrypted accounts.
And I said, you know, this is going to become an issue where they're going to use this attack as a political war on encrypted accounts on the basis that they're dangerous and they allow for anonymous criminality.
And it in fact happened in the wake of that attack.
You want to get conspiratorial.
I know people are going to go down this rabbit hole.
They'll say this is going to be either used as a pretext for going after the anonymity or the untraceability of crypto accounts.
But people have already started going down, they say a rabbit hole that is as, in my view, insensitive and for the time being unsubstantiated as the relentless, remorseless war on Erica Kirk.
I'll play a bit of this.
It's four minutes long.
I'll just play a bit of it so you get a feel for it.
And if you've been on the internet for long enough, you just know the way people act.
You know the way people react.
You know that people are, I don't want to say suffering from conspiracy trauma.
We have lived in a world where conspiracy theorists have been more right than not, and certainly more right than the legacy media that tries to discredit and write them off as conspiracy theorists.
And you know and knew people were going to go where they're going to go with this, but I'll play you a couple minutes on behalf of our family.
We want to thank all of you for the prayers for our beloved mom, Nancy.
We feel them and we continue to believe that she feels them too.
Our mom is a kind, faithful, loyal, fiercely loving woman of goodness and light.
She's funny, spunky, and clever.
She has grandchildren that adore her and crowd around her and cover her with kisses.
She loves fun and adventure.
She is a devoted friend.
She is full of kindness and knowledge.
I'll pause it here.
I don't know.
We don't need to watch the entire thing.
I'll give it to you if you so choose.
And they're demanding proof of life.
They're specifying the conspiracies are that, you know, I won't even get into them.
People are going to say, well, their reactions are bizarre.
They must be in on it.
You can't stop people from doing this.
Certainly not on the internet.
Certainly not in today's world.
My bottom line appeal to humanity is before you judge anybody in circumstances that you have no idea how anybody reacts.
And you better make sure to have more than just a feeling.
This doesn't feel right.
Why aren't they reacting the way I think they should be reacting under such circumstances?
I saw a couple, just to bring one up, already going into the sister was smiling before the video started.
And where have we seen that before?
In other tragedies where people give interviews, and A, God forbid they might be smiling for reasons unrelated.
And B, the inability of people to understand and distinguish between a smile and the face of pain is one that I find astonishing.
But people are going to go crazy.
They're already doing it and they're already hypothesizing and whatever.
But Donald Trump Jr. put out a tweet.
I spoke with Savannah Guthrie and let her know that I am directing all federal law enforcement to be at the families and local law enforcement's complete disposal immediately.
We are deploying all resources to get her mother home safely.
The prayers of our nation are with her and her family.
God bless and protect Nancy President Donald John Trump.
And I don't care if you don't like Trump.
It's impossible not to like Trump at moments like this.
And to be continued, to be followed, I don't know if there's any breaking news that occurred in the time that we went live, but everybody should be praying.
And it's wild.
You know, you set aside inside job type things like that.
You imagine if this is the next level of political or politicized violence.
I mean, there's so many sinister places this can go.
And you just hope that an 84-year-old woman with a heart condition and in need of medication will get home and get the help that she needs in time.
So prayers.
And that's that.
Now, let me see what's going on in vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
Viva, did you post a link to the documentary on the COVID shots?
Let me bring this up here.
Did you post a link to the documentary on the COVID shop?
I didn't.
I will if I didn't.
I don't think I did.
And let me go see what's going on in Viva Barnes Law on the Rumble.
TDS is an amazing thing that it is so effective at blinding people to Trump's nature today.
No, it's look, but Trump has said, I just read a comment on Rumble.
Trump said some stupid things.
I mean, humans say stupid things.
And the more honest a person, they'll respond honestly.
And their answers and their comments are not always going to be curated, you know, for political appropriateness.
And it's Obama said the right thing.
And then when he was off camera, you know, said what he really believed.
I'd rather have somebody to say what they really believe both on and off camera so that you can rely on the fact that on camera, they're still saying what they believe and not saying one thing and then being rude, disgusting jackasses off the scene.
Now, before we go over to viva barneslaw.locals.com, let me just show one thing.
What if I have anarcho-tyranny in the backdrop?
Oh, yes, that's right.
For the story that we're going to cover over on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
Why does Viva have the definition of anarcho-tyranny or a definition in the backdrop?
Find out more at viva barneslaw.locals.com.
I'm going to give everybody the link.
Just do a quick one here before we head on over.
And then we're going to go raid redacted.
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I just want to bring this one up.
We'll end with a little.
I don't want to blackpill everybody.
I just saw this tweet and I saw Luke Rodkowski said this is the worst answer and take ever.
And I'm like, I have to see what this is about.
It's about Epstein.
And you'll be the judge of whether or not this is the worst answer and worst take ever.
Incidentally, stay tuned.
I'm going to be on Ruben tomorrow.
Prager, you, we had a great one, but listen to this.
You said this is the end of the Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files.
So just to clarify, is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing?
And if not, why not?
And then I have a quick follow-up.
You just baked in an assumption in your question that I have never said and I don't know to be true.
Is the public going to learn about men that abuse these girls?
Like, what does that mean?
I mean, I don't understand what that means.
It's not complicated.
I mean, they're the men who abused the young women through Epstein's.
We said in July, and it remains as true today as it was in July.
I don't know what you mean by men who abused girls.
Do I need to elaborate on what I meant by it?
Here, would we go ask Grock?
What do you mean when you refer to, are we going to find out more about men who allegedly abused the girls as part of Jeffrey Epstein's operations, clientless, whatever?
If we had information, we meeting the Department of Justice about men who abused women, we would prosecute them, right?
We talked about the work that we're doing.
That's why I said that.
I said this earlier.
There's this built-in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information of men that we know about that we're covering up or that we're not, we're choosing not to prosecute.
That is not the case.
I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women.
If we learn about information and evidence that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will.
But I don't think that the public or you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein files that abuse women, unfortunately.
How do we rate that answer, people, on a scale of one to 10?
And do it in the chat as you all go over to redacted to talk more about Epstein.
Scale of one to 10.
How would you rate that answer?
That's pretty close to a zero.
It was one to ten, not zero.
I just, you know, I was going through, you continue to go through these Epstein documents.
We'll end it on this before we go over to locals.
Yeah, we came across the original indictment, or at least it was finally released against Jeffrey Epstein back in 2007.
And it goes into detail about all the girls.
I mean, there were like 27 dozens of girls from whom Jeffrey Epstein solicited prostitution sex for his puriant interests.
The one thing I just found interesting is when they get into the bulk of the charges, it says Jeffrey Epstein and then they redact.
That's another person.
And that's another person who's also known as.
And there are three people here whose names are redacted.
So Jeffrey Epstein and three names who are redacted did willfully and willingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with each other and with others known and unknown to commit an offense against the United States.
That is, to use a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce to knowingly persuade, induce, and entice individuals who had not attained the age of 18 years to engage in prostitution and violation.
Who are the other three?
And so, again, you know, you get into that.
They say they were going to redact the names for victims.
Who are the other three?
If it was Ghelaine Maxwell, who's already been convicted, why would they need to redact her name?
The other one, I forget her name now, Sarah.
I don't want to mention anybody's name.
It wasn't.
There's another name, which is, oh, so hold on a second.
I actually have it in the tweet.
I'm an idiot.
Who's right?
Ghelaine Maxwell?
Sarah Kellen.
Why is it still redacted?
Who are the other known conspirators?
Now, in fairness, this would be conspirators for the solicitation of prostitution of minor for Jeffrey Epstein's puriant interests.
It doesn't mean necessarily other men who procured in this, but victims have come forward and mentioned other names.
We know of other names, Prince Andrew being the most prominent.
So, in light of that, I'm curious as to how everyone would rate that answer.
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And I'm going to go look in the chat before we end it.
That's a one.
We got a one.
We got a two.
We got a negative three.
My cat typed this.
Well, I don't know if the cat accidentally put a negative in front of it.
Zero.
Viva, I'm premium.
Don't send me out, says Darkwing Jewey.
They're working.
Okay, so Jeff already knows when I go, there's no way to go exclusively to locals and premium yet through Rumble Studio.
But don't worry, just come on over.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Come on over to locals, but not behind a paywall today.
But they're trying to fix that feature on Rumble Studio so that I can go to the after party, not just the locals exclusively, but locals and Rumble Premium.
So we're working on that.
My apologies.
It's not in my hands, but I just so you know.
Oddly enough, people aren't going to indict themselves.
You have to go find the evidence.
Okay.
All right.
So with that said, everybody, thank you for being here.
If you're not coming over, I'm going to end on Twitter.
Peace out.
See you tomorrow.
Tonight, Lord Buckley, Viva, and Lord Buckley go to the movies and it'll be fun.
Link here, and I'll send it over in our locals community as well.
And at five o'clock, I've got to go destroy some children at Scrabble.
We have our Thursday afternoon community kids game, and I've gotten a bunch of them into Scrabble, and it's no mercy Scrabble.
Like, I don't care if these kids don't know that XI and XU is a word, they're words.
And these kids have not yet also figured out not to set up people to get on the triple word score.
So it's been viva destruction, and it's remorseless.
And it's for their own good.
They're going to learn words that they didn't know are words.
So we're going to do that at five o'clock.
Right now, we're going to end on X Baby X. We're going to end on make sure I don't do anything that's going to end.
We're going to end on somebody else's X.
I think that's Jason's X.
So Babai, Jason's X.
And we're going to end on Facebook, which is definitely not mine because I have not had access to my Facebook in damn near four years.
So I want to end it there.
I don't want to access it.
Goodbye, Facebook.
I think that's Levine's as well.
And one more that I'm hoping not to screw up.
We're going to end on my rumble.
So rumble, go forth, prosper, enjoy the day.
And locals, Here we come.
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