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Dec. 7, 2025 - Viva & Barnes
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Ep. 294: Pipe Bomber Caught? Pfizer Fraud before Appeals! Venezuela Boat Strikes! EU v. Elon & MORE!
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Ladies and gentlemen of the interwebs, in the most controversial interview VivaFry has ever undertaken with a member, a convicted member of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tario.
Oh, I hear myself.
Hold on.
That might have been what I was hearing echo about before.
Let me get back to.
Oh, forget it.
I've already screwed up.
Just enjoy the intro video, people.
Before trial, they put me in a room, and we talked about this part.
They put me in a room.
They slid a piece of paper across a desk with a narrative on it.
And they're like, if you sign this, you'll have a bail hearing next week, and we guarantee you you won't do a single day in prison.
I pulled the document in.
I looked at it.
And basically, what the document said was that the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, through the means of a third party, told me to storm the Capitol of the United States to stop the certification of the election.
May I stop you just for one second?
Who's asking, who's sliding this paper and who's asking you to sign it?
Her name is Jocelyn Ballantyne, and she works for the Department of Justice.
And she was the head of the Capitol Siege division for the Department of Justice at the time.
Sitting in the room.
She's the one that offered it.
I said no.
And she told me to lie about the president in order to go home.
And there is no doubt in my mind.
There's no doubt.
There's no doubt.
Because at that time, Jack Smith hadn't been appointed yet.
There's no doubt in my mind that one of the people that were working with Jack Smith to prosecute the president, because it was a January 6th case, she definitely worked with Jack Smith.
Well, we can pause it there.
I just want everyone also to know, I'm not still wearing the same shirt.
Okay.
I have two of these, and I put this one on, a clean one, for my interview on RT today.
I'm going to actually just double check something here in the chat.
I see I can't hear the audio on my TV app, but can on the Android app.
Everybody, we're going to do a couple of things, and this might be a bit of a troubleshooting stream.
Rumble Studio has done some upgrades and functional improvements.
And it's good in that now I can actually control the audio of my guest so I can increase and reduce audio as needed.
What I'm noticing, first of all, I'm going to, I screenshotted that.
I'm going to send that to the team.
There might be some other issues that are going to come up.
The problem on my end with Barnes is that I'm hearing echo on Barnes' end for the first time ever.
And so we might have to figure that out.
I have a bit of a hack as to how to do it.
But if there's anything I'm going to follow the chat, let me know because Rumble Studio has done some upgrades.
It's great.
But there might be some growing pains, glitches that they might have to work through.
So if you are not hearing the audio on a different platform, okay, and you say you're good, V's on PC with locals.
Good, Mr. Mike, Mr. Mike.
Thank you.
I wanted to start with that just because it's good.
We're going to come back to it.
I didn't really have any other good video to start this show with before getting into our sponsor and thanking our sponsor.
I was going to start with something about fascism and tyranny in Canada, you know, in order to then say, my goodness, people, you got to cover your assets against tyrannical governments that go into printing presses and spending cash and yada yada yada.
And I was like, oh, wait a minute.
I was on with RT this afternoon talking about Don Trump Jr., Don Jr. statements on the war in Ukraine.
And it's interesting.
Like, I go on with RT to do an interview, and they're playing two clips of John Jr.
One of them is saying when Don Jr. saying, uh, what was he saying about goes to Monaco?
And I probably should just start the show with this clip.
They go to he goes to Monaco, and all of these sports cars, these luxury, you know, half million dollar cars, have Ukrainian license plates.
And what's happened is that the elite, the oligarchy out of Ukraine, have fled the country and sent their sons and daughters to the slaughter because they can bilk off that corruption money for the last three years.
So they're playing this on RT.
And I can appreciate RT might have a political interest of, on the one hand, either showing that there are diverging opinions or conflicting opinions on the war in Ukraine or the U.S. is supporting of it, or maybe they're trying to sow Discord by showing Don Jr. saying something different than the policy adopted by President Donald John Trump.
Doesn't matter.
Don Jr.'s right.
And the Overton window has shifted so much that now Don Jr.'s statements can be mainstream statements and they will sway and shift public opinion, which I think has already shifted to supporting this endless war.
But I said, you know, America's got its own people to take care of.
And hundreds of billions of dollars, 30 to 70% of which is being fraudulently and corruptly siphoned off the top, has problems.
Printing cash creates problems at home.
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All right, Robert, sir, let's see if we're going to troubleshoot right now.
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Let's bring Robert in and see if we're going to hear that echo that I thought I was hearing before.
And we have Tim Walz.
You see, no, I hear it.
I'm going to see.
Okay.
I'm going to figure it out.
Bring your face in, Robert.
Everyone else, you guys hear a bit of an echo.
Oh, and now you look.
Are you on the wrong camera, Robert?
No, I just got a all right.
Let me see.
Everybody, let me know if you hear a bit of an echo or if the echo is too annoying.
There's an echo cancellation on your side too.
Who said that?
If you go to the audio controls, go to audio.
And then that little button, audio settings button on the right, top right.
Really?
Echo cancellation.
Let me see if that works.
Robert, let me see if I can hear you.
How about now?
Holy sweet, merciful goodness.
Testify, people.
That's how good this is.
I'm going to keep my volume a little bit lower, but that is much better.
Oh, that's amazing.
Okay.
Did he change anything on his end?
I think we figured it out.
Period.
We'll text you after the show.
Oh, that's perfect.
It's not perfect, but you know what?
No, it's not perfect.
I'm going to lower my volume when I ask my questions, Robert.
Robert, sir, how goes the battle?
Good, good.
As the shirt declares.
I'm going to, I'm going to.
People might like it better because I'll be less prone to interrupting you, Robert, when you're talking.
But we're going to get into a bunch of stuff.
What do we have on the menu for tonight?
And we're starting with the arrest of the pipe bomber.
Indeed, we got the number one topic was the Brooke Jackson topic.
The was down in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals this past week.
So we give the behind the scenes on Brooke Jackson versus Pfizer, what that was like before the appellate court.
We also have the pipe bomber suspect and whether that's a very credible claim or not.
We've got on SCOTUS, we got redistricting.
We have the Texas case went kind of as predicted.
That likely means where the California case is going as well.
Executive branch power in birthright citizenship.
The Trump powers to be determined again by various federal courts deciding can ICE do something?
Can the president hire and fire certain people?
We've got Luigi had his hearings this week about whether or not there'll be suppression of evidence in that case.
That's the man who is alleged to have assassinated the United Healthcare Executive, CEO.
And as predicted, some of what they're trying to hide came out as to why they're trying to hide it, as to what was in that file that Luigi had in his book bag.
Big Tech faces a remedy from Google.
That reaches a Google search part, reaches the remedy stage of the trial.
EU takes on Elon Musk.
Interesting timing, given the national security assessment made by Elbridge Colby, which is making the rounds and causing a lot of controversy in Europe because it's a very sound and smart strategy to divorce from Europe.
So interesting timing.
Europe deciding to sanction Elon Musk.
Then RFK and the HHS looking at changing what vaccines are listed on the vaccine children's schedule.
They commenced that by changing the recommendation for the HPV vaccine.
And President Trump has supported and endorsed Robert Kennedy looking at all of the vaccines that are on the kids' schedule and whether they need to be there, given most of them are not on most people's schedules around the world.
The Epstein grand jury records now finally going to be disclosed thanks to the legislation done by Thomas Massey and others.
Candace Owens versus TPUSA.
That never stops.
TikTok going after kids once again.
NASCAR with Michael Jordan going to an antitrust trial out in Nevada.
And last but not least, when garnishments go wild.
I'm going to lower my volume.
I'm going to lower this so I don't hear the echo.
Does everybody right now, and I read in the chat we need a producer.
This is, I say, an exceptional thing because they've increased the capacity of this.
Does everyone hear an echo now?
And is my audio better now?
I've increased the audio on my end.
So I'm going to read the chat just before we get started.
No echo and my audio is a little better.
Let me see what the chat has to say about that.
It says low, much better.
Yep, all good.
Okay, fine.
I'm just going to have to adjust this.
Robert, someone in our local community said that your microphone might be accessing the audio, whatever.
It's better now.
Okay, so we're going to do this.
Robert, I can't hear you when I lower the volume, but we'll figure this out.
The biggest story of the week, quite clearly, is the arrest of Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-old, allegedly apparently autistic, semi-verbal individual who we are being told was the individual who purchased the items for the pipe bombs, transported them with his vehicle, and then planted them on foot.
Whether or not this pans out, if you please or whatever, I went through the affidavit.
I'm curious to know your thoughts on this.
You have a lot more experience than I do.
What are your thoughts on the affidavit in terms of the specificity or lack thereof?
The plausibility of the explanation being given that this evidence, there was no new tips, no new evidence.
This was just re-examining or revisiting evidence that they already had.
And what's your take on this latest development?
I think that I'm very suspect of the case they've put forward.
So for those that don't remember, there were several pipe bombs found on January 6th near the headquarters of the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee.
The individual, there was some tape released, some grainy footage of someone who appeared to be the person planting it.
Though Julie Kelly and others have disputed whether that's the actual person who put the bombs there.
And then there was early development around January 6th, and then the story disappeared.
And so for many people, it was very suspect how they could find some grandma based off a license plate thing or a bank transaction or a single cell phone text ping or something else for taking an unauthorized tour of the Capitol so they could go raid her house and drag her to D.C.
But they couldn't find someone that was on, this is the most surveilled town in the entire world is the District of Columbia.
They got cameras everywhere.
Couldn't find the pipe bomber.
So many of us were skeptical as to what was really taking place with the pipe bomber case.
Then just a month ago or so, Steve Baker, after months and months and really years of research, along with people like Kyle Serafin and others were looking at the evidence, identified a potential suspect who fits the physical gate, fits the known physical forensic evidence, which is the height of the individual, the gait of the individual, the body structure of the individual, etc.
And I heard people saying, oh, you know, gate analysis, what is this?
They've locked people up just on gate analysis.
So the idea that this is somehow some random, weird, unheard of development is not, is nonsense.
They've been using it for decades.
It's just got a lot better with modern technology.
And they identify a person who is working at the CIA and it was working at Capitol Police and it was busy firing gun, you know, pellet guns and other weapons at people on January 6th, was a critical witness.
So it fit that this was a Fed surrection.
And what happens?
The FBI is very dismissive.
And then a few weeks later, we get Patsy number 101.
I mean, this guy's like, they dug deep into the closet of the, go get the Patsy book, everybody, from the CIA.
Who do we have on there?
Oh, we got some guy that's autistic that lives in his basement that we could probably convince him he did something, you know, whether or not he has a clue about it because of his susceptibility.
And you look at him at the height doesn't really, the height's a little off.
The gate is off.
The body structure is off.
None of it matches.
And supposedly this guy just, and their evidence is, well, over a couple of years, he bought some things that are commonly used in people's houses that could have gone into the pipe bombs.
And we have his phone pinging nearby.
And we have his license plate at one point being not far away.
That's literally it.
It's a crap affidavit.
It's a crap case.
It looks to me like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi are willing, unwilling, either knowingly or not knowingly, to frame an innocent man to put an autistic black guy in prison to cover for the corruption of the institutional corruption of the FBI.
That's what it looks like to me, because I find no credibility in what they've said so far.
Robert, I'm going to try something here.
I don't actually hear the echo anymore.
I hear a little bit now.
And I'm just going to see if my audio is good.
You might have to live with an echo, people, because I'm told my audio is too low.
And before we go further with this, just let me hear what people have to say.
You're going to hear the echo.
Is the audio better?
Am I louder in comparison to Robert?
And apologies for this.
This is you sound better.
Although you're going to hear the echo in the backdrop.
So my apologies, everyone.
You're going to live with it.
And now people are saying no.
It's good.
It was fine.
You are fine, man.
Okay, leave it alone.
I'll just close this down so you don't hear the echo.
Robert, people are criticizing the gate analysis and they're saying, you know, it's nothing and it's irrelevant and whatever.
Except they, you know, then the articles go on to say how this guy has a similar gait because he's got a weird way of walking, allegedly.
I think this thing blows up.
I think they, I don't believe either it blows up or it turns out that this guy was in fact working in collaboration with Capitol Police, which might be a way to merge and marry and have these two stories work together.
He was groomed.
He was, in fact, the FBI had found him online a little while ago, found a good, not Patsy, but someone to use for the purposes of this project, and that he might have been purchasing the items with an instruction list and then putting it together and then giving it to somebody else.
In the affidavit, when they don't disclose or they don't specify what else he purchased at the same time, is that, you know, in order to be clear, is that to avoid ambiguity or is that a little bit suspicious?
Or am I just thinking too much of the fact that they say he bought these items?
They don't mention if it were the, if it was the only items he bought or what other items he bought at the same time, if he bought a bunch of other stuff, then it would seem a little less suspicious.
Is that peculiar for the affidavit?
My opinion.
I mean, I agreed with Kyle Serafin that it's a very weak and thin affidavit.
I get Mike Benz was saying, you know, it's okay, but Mike Benz is not a law enforcement guy.
So, you know, the, but Mike Benz's experiences in State Department, other areas, does great work in that area, but law enforcement's not his thing.
From a, now, what's true is most judges don't second guess any kind of warrant these days.
So I get that, the probable cause affidavit, because this was not presented to a grand jury.
There's a lot of things I don't get.
Why did they rush?
Why wasn't there a search warrant done first?
Why wasn't there more of an investigation done first?
There's open questions here that I have not heard compelling or convincing answers for.
And so I think you look at him in aggregate, and what I see is it looks like a blatant effort to cover up for institutional corruption by blaming a Patsy.
And because there's all kinds of evidence, it should be there that's not there.
You had almost five years to investigate this individual.
Even if you're going to take the, and supposedly had nothing to do with the Steve Baker story.
I don't find Kash Patel credible at all anymore.
At all.
He has no credibility.
Dan Bagino should get out of there as fast as he can because right now he looks like a fake and a phony and a fraud.
His legacy is going up in flames.
And what if it turns out they set up an innocent guy and a black guy, an ambush?
And a black guy with a, with, you know, that has various mental neurological development issues.
Let me ask you this.
You know, it looks rushed.
The timing is, you can't say it's coincidental.
It comes a month after Steve Baker's bombshell expose.
People are calling me Candace on Twitter and they're idiots because they haven't learned anything from the past.
The excuse that Pam Bondi and the DOJ have given is that it was just negligence by the DOJ.
They just, by the FBI, they just shelved it and they didn't look through anything.
To me, that is the most insane thing to think that they had four years not to neglect this case, but to protect themselves in the event it ever got uncovered.
Much like Peter Stroke and Lisa Page's insurance policy, you've got five years not to neglect this case, but to build up a plan B in the event that.
What do you think?
What chance out there is there that they want to take down the FBI?
They want to, you know, the same deep state anti-Trump assets that railroaded all the Jan 6ers are now setting up what will be easily and demonstrably blown open by way of a case to humiliate Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and the FBI.
Well, not only that, then you find out that the U.S. attorney assigned the case.
People told me that Gene Piro was, she was on top of it, Robert.
And I was like, well, I have a case with Robin Gritz pending in the District of Corruption, pending in D.C., and they can't get, they refuse to offer anything that someone was wrongfully terminated by that rogue unit back at the FBI.
So I have no reason.
And now it turns out Gene Piro assigned the prosecutor to the case, one of the biggest deep state prosecutors over the last five years.
Someone neck deep in Jane 6 cases, somebody neck deep in wrongfully targeting the Proud Boys and others.
And so in the way she went about those cases, that's the U.S. attorney who signed the case.
Kash Patel has done nothing but get on a plane and on a corporate on your taxpayer dime, which he himself said no competent FBI director should do.
So he's at a minimum a hypocritical fraud, if not just a complete phony.
He was, I think, somebody else now ghostwrote his books because nobody could be as incompetent as Kash Patel is.
I mean, I know he finished towards the bottom of his law school class.
Nobody thought of him as a smart guy.
I get that.
But this is just embarrassing to run out there and put this guy on display without a thorough investigation.
Because if it was anything you have to have, you have to turn over to the defendant.
So you knew this was a high-profile PR case.
You've seen what it looks like when they properly put in evidence in an affidavit.
Almost everything I was looking for was not there.
There's no motive explanation at all.
There's no real gotcha evidence.
It's he bought, he bought some of the equipment that could have gone into this.
And as you point out, why don't they identify what else he bought?
Why don't they identify the patterns that he bought?
Why don't we see more information in Intel?
Why don't we see more photos and videos?
Because there's videos all over the place.
Why are we still not getting that?
Why does it seem like the least credible story you could get of any kind of Patsy?
And you just keep aggregating the evidence and it keeps contradicting their claim.
And then when they assign a prosecutor that was one of James Comey's favorites, I'm sorry.
I'm not buying a single thing anybody is saying.
Let me also just emphasize that it's not just one of Comey's favorite prosecutors.
Jocelyn Ballantyne, you know, violated civil rights in the prosecution of the Jan 6s.
She actually concealed evidence.
They sent over a file, which was supposed to be disclosure of evidence, but redacting that which was not necessary for the particular case of Enrique Tario and the Proud Boys.
And they didn't realize that you could uncover the text messages that they had deemed irrelevant.
And they were text messages involving FBI to delete exculpatory evidence, to delete evidence, to not disclose the fact that they were listening to discussions between Proud Boys and their attorneys on the confidential line in jail.
And that they had the witnesses on the defense side were FBI assets.
And then Jocelyn Ballantyne tells the judge, well, they can't be asked any questions on what correspondence those assets have been having with the FBI.
It's corruption to the core.
And not only is this woman still higher there, she's got this case.
Mike Benz put out a great analysis.
And, you know, the timing of these purchases, which were like a year and a half earlier, coincide with election fortification.
I'd say that Mike might just have a bit of a vested interest to ratify his own theory from back in the day that it was a black guy who was walking because of the gate that they did at the time.
He thinks the affidavit is strong and I got to respect his opinion.
But yeah, it felt weak.
No motive.
It didn't detail the other items that he was purchasing.
Some would say, well, if he bought a bunch of other household items, it'll look less suspicious.
And then others are going to say, if he bought only those items, it'll look like he was being instructed on how to build this thing.
The question's going to be, did he have any contact with the FBI or anybody, Capitol Police, before, during, or after?
There's like no social media trail.
They hadn't scouted out the property in advance.
It doesn't appear.
I mean, everything about it appears to be rushed.
Everything about it appears to be to try to remove suspicion on the person Steve Baker identified.
And they come up with someone that's just not a very credible story.
Like they have no explanation for why.
None.
It's not offered anywhere in the affidavit.
It's usually you see something about motive in the affidavit.
Because you never, because, you know, hypothetically, the judge could say no to signing off on the affidavit.
Because this is an affidavit for arrest in the federal system.
If you don't indict, you go by criminal complaint first, later go to indictment, but you can use the criminal complaint for purposes of arrest.
You have to be the testifying officer of probable cause under penalty of perjury.
And the court has to say this is sufficient to believe.
The other thing is they said probable cause that it was a bomb, but then they also say it's a 60-minute timer.
And so it's holding it's a bomb that was going to go off 24 hours later, but the only timer is a 60-minute kitchen timer.
So, I mean, there's just these huge, I mean, you can go online and find all these people, including all these autists, just taking it apart.
And you've got a guy who has no other big political history.
You have people throwing out, oh, ties to BLM.
Then you research that there's not really a lot there.
You got a guy who lives in his basement who's basically apolitical that is the kind of person, if you wanted to set up a Patsy, he'd be the kind of person you could set up as a Patsy.
That's for sure.
But they're mostly attributing things to him that his father was involved in.
And his father's got his own bail bonds business.
And so like, oh, well, he's bonding out illegal immigrants.
So do a good number of bail bondsmen.
I mean, that doesn't tell me a whole lot at all.
So they have no explanation.
And that still doesn't explain why he would plant pipe bombs on January 6th.
It was everything pointed to an inside job.
And the FBI is going out of their way to say, no, no, no inside job here.
Blame the guy down in the basement with an, that was an autist that we just couldn't find for five years.
And by the way, we got pretty much no evidence against him now.
And I'm supposed to just buy this hook line and sinker?
Just because you don't believe every conspiracy theory doesn't mean no conspiracy theory is true.
Just like just because you believe every conspiracy theory doesn't mean a conspiracy theory is true.
Since even the chat, they're like, oh, yo, that's like Candace Owens.
Night and day difference.
If you follow the simple evidence here, the evidence is more exculpatory.
And imagine if they go to trial and this guy gets acquitted.
Or imagine he gets convicted and it's found out two years later he was always innocent.
Then Dan Bongino helped railroad an innocent man into federal prison.
They better start thinking about things up there because I don't think they're paying any attention beyond their own.
Now that you mention it, what do you think of the fact that they're interrogating this guy before the first hearing in the absence of counsel?
I mean, is that in and of itself not already problematic?
He should have been in custody, so he should have been afforded counsel.
We don't know whether he did or he didn't.
When you know he's autistic, they have a high, high rate, depending on the nature of the autism, you can induce a false testimony.
You can do this in general.
The least reliable form of testimony in the history of criminal cases are confessions.
And there's a hundred reasons why.
You know, maybe we'll do a panel with a body language panel down the road.
You know, guys like Greg Hartley and Chase Hughes and Scott and Scott Rouse and the others, Mark Bowden, et cetera.
But there's a reason why that is the case, but that makes him very susceptible to you being able to plant false information into him right away.
Because what his grandmother and others are describing is this really nice, quiet kid, not a loner, just more a nice, quiet kid who's just very deeply on the spectrum.
So when I heard that, I was like, hold on a second.
This mastermind of this pipe bomb that could escape the FBI for five years is an autist with no criminal history, who's pretty much a nice guy, lives in his parents' basement?
I'm sorry, this is just not adding up at so many different levels.
People have done a deep dive breakdown into the way he walks, his physical trajectory, his body, and it is not a match at all, at all.
So I think that Bongino and Patel and Bondi are willing to railroad an innocent man.
It would be horrendous, the fact that it ends up being a black autistic guy that's who they blamed.
If it turns out that's who they're setting up, that plays into every stereotype of Republicans out there and of Trump out there.
This could be a disaster.
This could be a complete blowback disaster.
They rushed into this.
It's obvious they rushed into this.
They do not have sufficient evidence, in my opinion, to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
And there's a lot of evidence that rebuts and refutes them.
Particularly, he does not match.
If they're going to say he is that guy from the camera, the camera looks like the lady that works at the CIA based on gait and physical body structure.
He has a very unusual body structure.
Like, I mean, you couldn't even get a Patsy that looks like the guy.
Come on, I mean, you got to work harder, the Patsy.
I mean, they're limited by the height, but this is all they come up with?
I'm sorry, I'm not buying the story at all by the feds.
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