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March 12, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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Canadian Premiers BUCKLE! "Gender" Wars in Congress! Madness in Seattle AND MORE! Viva Frei Live

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	Recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
	Thank you, Madam Chair.
	Ranking Member Keating, also wonderful.
	Mr. Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?
	Yes, it's a...
	We have set the standard on the floor of the House, and I'm simply...
	What is that standard, Mr. Chairman?
	Would you repeat what you just said when you introduced a duly elected representative?
	From the United States of America, please.
	Look how passionate he's getting.
	The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
	Mr. Chairman, you are out of order.
	The whole freaking system's out of order.
	Mr. Chairman, have you no decency?
	I mean, I've come to know you a little bit, but this is not decent.
	We will continue this.
	You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative the right way.
	Do you notice how he didn't refer to McBride as a her?
	He can't even bring himself to say it, it would seem.
	This hearing is adjourned.
	All right.
	Good morning.
	Good afternoon, everybody.
	I'm going to keep that in the backdrop because we might want to come back to it in a bit.
	I was going to start with that video regardless of the fact that we have an impromptu guest who's coming on today that I've been arguing with back and forth on Twitter this morning, Unlearn16, for those of you who don't know.
	I do have to talk about this video for a little bit and monopolize the mic until Unlearn gets in.
	It was George Orwell who wrote, prophetically, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
	It was their final, most essential command.
	It's an amazing thing that we live in a world where that dude, who's the guy that was in there?
	I don't know who the names of the respective...
	You can tell who's a Democrat and who's a Republican because the Democrat wants you to defy biology, defy reality, and compel speech out of your mouth.
	And the Republican is just basically respecting the biology as nature intended it, if you believe in God, as God created it.
	But the white knighting of the individual...
	Is truly, truly astonishing.
	Look at the...
	What's the word I'm looking at?
	The theatrics.
	I now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
	The feigned outrage.
	Thank you, Madam Chair.
	Ranking Member Keating...
	And am I wrong or did McBride just refer to him as Madam Chair as ironic?
	Also wonderful...
	Mr. Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?
	Mr. McBride.
	It's a...
	We have set the standard on the floor of the house, and I'm simply...
	What is that standard, Mr. Chairman?
	If you're born with a penis, you get referred to as a mister.
	Period.
	Is that an easy enough standard?
	What's on your passport?
	No, not even because passports are defying reality these days, but...
	Would you repeat what you just said?
	He's got to get himself whipped up into a phony frenzy.
	You can see people doing it to themselves.
	You might see me doing it to myself every now and again.
	He's got to escalate his passion.
	A duly elected representative from the United States of America.
	Please.
	What does that change?
	Duly elected representative?
	Okay, who happens to identify or, you know, view themselves as a woman?
	Born with a penis, and as far as I know, still has one.
	I will.
	The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
	Oh, Mr. Chairman, you are out of order.
	You all know what's going on here.
	Welcome to the show.
	Share the link around.
	We're going to go have a good one today talking Ford Nation, talking this, talking tariff wars, and many other things.
	But you might already know the guest who's coming in because I've had her on a couple of times.
	I've been on her show a couple of times.
	And some of you may not like her.
	And that's tough noogies because we have to have discussions with people we don't like.
	And when you say, I don't like her, I know that everyone out there means her ideas and not her as a person because none of us know her as a person.
	She might be the most wonderful person on earth.
	But if we disagree with one's fundamental thoughts, politics, and ideology, then we tend to demonize the person above the thoughts and the ideologies.
	Unlearn 16. You can appear yourself now and we're going to do this.
	Joe, I asked you to make sure I could call you Joe before because I know that's your first name.
	Joe, how goes the battle?
	I'm sleepy.
	Sometimes I felt the need to take a knee.
	First of all, you started by saying there's a lot of people who don't like me.
	Who are we talking about?
	I'm not aware of a soul.
	Second of all, I am a very lovely person.
	I had a guy right today complimenting me on my hair.
	Kind of.
	The thing is, I don't know you as a person.
	I know the tidbits of anecdotes that you've given me through the interview.
	And look, anybody who takes care of family is a good person.
	Period.
	In my books.
	Until proof to the contrary.
	I don't know what you do behind closed doors.
	I don't care and you might be an awful person and maybe one day I'll be...
	I'll be shamed into having had you on the channel.
	You've been on a few times.
	Some might not know who you are.
	You're behind the Iron Curtain, the Maple Gulag, as I call it.
	Sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're fifth most free country in the world.
	But yeah, continue.
	Go ahead.
	What are the other four that are more free?
	They're all sweet.
	I think it's like Norway.
	I think it's Sweden.
	I think it's socialist countries that you don't like.
	Making sure that we have, you know, basic needs met.
	Making sure nobody's, you know, filing medical bankruptcies.
	Just those things.
	I mean, I understand why people don't like them.
	It's rude when you say, we will take your poor and huddled masses.
	Oh, wait.
	Isn't that you guys?
	You guys should get rid of that girl standing off the coast.
	I'm just saying.
	See, this is where in viva voce debate is better.
	The one we got into this morning was...
	What was that?
	We've been fighting a lot.
	Trump sold out his country, and then I said, please be specific how he sold it out, and then you referred to it as the gold card.
	Well, half of the list is nonsense.
	It has nothing to do with selling out.
	It's just critique.
	And the first one, which you listed, was the policy, the gold card proposed immigration policy.
	But back it up just even a little bit.
	Okay.
	Do you want to go to that first clip you have, or where do you want to start?
	Well, that's the thing.
	Hold on.
	You just said something about the free countries.
	Oh, yes, where people don't go bankrupt for Medicare.
	Yeah.
	How do you reconcile that with, like, 15,000 people over the last eight years dying in ERs because of the socialized healthcare system.
	Listen, there is no way that I don't have a problem with 15,000 people dying and waiting in ERs.
	There's no possible way.
	My answer to that would be, we need a fully funded healthcare system and provincial governments, not just conservatives, by the way.
	I think a lot of people think that when I get up on these channels, I only condemn...
	The right, which isn't the case at all.
	I can condemn everybody equally.
	And we talk about oligarchies and we talk about money.
	I'll condemn Soros just as quickly as I'll condemn Musk.
	And nobody that's paying attention to me pre-Trump ever, you know, speaks about that.
	And when it comes to health care, I myself, like if I was going to talk about fundamental rights, and I know some people are going to be like, you can't demand people's labor for a fundamental right.
	Creating a society, I believe that healthcare and education should be fundamental rights and they should be fully funded.
	The problem with Canada is we have...
	Sort of universal healthcare that was decided upon by our federal government, that we will have universal healthcare, yet it's the provincial jurisdiction and responsibility to execute said healthcare.
	And so when they do it badly, or they cut funding, or funding gets cut from the federal government, so they have to cut funding, I'm not always saying it's a provincial fault, then...
	15,000 people.
	My mom worked in healthcare my whole life, right?
	So I've grown up in hospitals, not because I was sick, but because I was just there with my mom.
	You know what I mean?
	I took my first steps to my mom's head nurse.
	I've seen the amazing, beautiful things that nurses and doctors and healthcare has done in Ontario.
	I've also, my mom, you know that my mom's been sick.
	She's in remission, but we've gone through this whole thing and she started this.
	Pretty, you know, painstaking journey right at the beginning of COVID. So right at the beginning of COVID, we had to jump into this medical care situation and my mom had been retired for about five years, right?
	So we had to jump into it.
	So some of my experience is obviously anecdotal.
	It's what I experienced when I was there.
	Some of it is work and education that I have done.
	But I believe a foundation of a healthy society, it's not the only foundation, by the way, but I think the foundation of a wealthy, healthy nation should be taking care of the health of its citizenry.
	Back it up to the basic thing where you say it should be fully funded.
	The first question is, is the suggestion that the Canadian healthcare system is somehow underfunded?
	Well, I would say this.
	I'm going to talk about Ontario, because it's very hard for me to talk about every other province, right?
	I'll talk about Ontario.
	Doug Ford, who's our Premier, who's just been elected for his third go, he has consistently talked about beds.
	I don't know if you've listened to him talk about healthcare in Ontario, and he's talked about, I'm going to put beds, I'm going to put beds, more beds, more beds, more beds.
	But a rational person understands.
	You can have all the beds in the world you want, love, unless you have doctors and nurses and nursing practitioners and all of the other infrastructure that goes with actually servicing those beds, right?
	And the bed's not the expensive part.
	I understand.
	And I can sit down and have a huge discussion about...
	How expensive healthcare has become.
	For example, let's talk about my mom, right?
	So she was diagnosed with bladder cancer.
	She was 71. And when she was diagnosed with bladder cancer, the first thing they're going to do is go in and remove, well, they didn't know, but they ended up removing her bladder, right?
	Our healthcare system has gotten really kind of awesome, and I mean that word almost facetiously, at taking care of illness, at treating illness.
	Rather than curing illness.
	Or even preventing illness.
	Not that you could prevent that.
	Preventing is a whole different thing.
	And I'd love to talk about how to prevent and what we should be doing and pouring money into education.
	Because, by the way, we've completely siphoned it out of preventing any sort of healthcare thing and any sort of healthcare crisis.
	And the first way we do that is ensuring that kids don't have to take phys ed past grade 9. What?
	Why is physical activity...
	Not a cultural lesson.
	It doesn't make any sense to me.
	And the only reason it makes sense to me is because we've decided that academics, and you understand I'm a teacher, so I love academics and all of that, but we've decided that academics should take priority over physical health.
	And in my opinion, they should be connected.
	We've got to stick to one thing.
	If the idea is that it should be fully funded, I'm not sure how it's not fully funded, but that would suppose or presuppose or at least make the assumption that...
	It's not functioning because of underfunding, or I don't think anybody on earth would say that 12 point somewhat percent of the GDP being put to funding healthcare, however many, 600 billion a year.
	I don't think anybody would argue that it's underfunded or rather, well, or rather the tremendous amount of waste already going into it.
	Sure, we can talk about waste.
	Funding it more.
	Sure.
	I think we could talk about waste.
	I don't think I could do it.
	And it's funny because then you can connect it to the whole Dodge thing.
	But how can you talk about more funding when you can't yet address the waste?
	I mean, you don't continue funding something more.
	Because I don't have access to it.
	What I can speak to is something very practical about, let's say, critical patient to nursing ratios, right?
	For me to sit here and pretend as though I have access to everybody's finite, you know, economic breakdown and gone through it line by line would be silly and would be arrogant.
	So what I'm going to speak to is something very practical.
	One nurse per how many, let's say, high risk or what's the word I'm looking for?
	Well, just patients who need treatment.
	Yeah, but again, you can have one nurse for a bunch of patients if they're stable.
	Do you understand?
	So I'm really focusing on, and this number has changed wildly since my mom was a nurse, and then since my mom was, she nursed at Wellesley and then at St. Mike's for her entire career.
	That number has gone up, just like, so one nurse per X amount of high-risk patients, that number has gone up over time.
	Now here's how they're trying to solve it, and I'll give you some.
	Initially, my mom didn't go to university to become a nurse because that's not what you did back then, right?
	You went to college to be a nurse and then you had a very lengthy time of in-house training, right?
	So she lived at Wellesley Hospital.
	She did all of her training at Wellesley Hospital and she became a nurse there.
	She went through a rigorous interview process and practical process in order to become a nurse.
	It was actually a great program.
	At some point, we decided that nurses needed to have a four-year...
	I'm not going to get into whether they did or didn't.
	I'm going to say my mom's a pretty damn good nurse and I don't know if that made a huge difference.
	Here's what I think it made a difference in.
	You saw nurses pay go up as a result because now they're University educated, their pay goes up.
	As their pay went up, obviously the system became more and more expensive because nursing, it's not doctors that are necessarily the huge cost, it's the huge nursing situation that we have.
	So as that number went up, they started trying to figure out new and exciting ways to bring that number down.
	So number one, you change the ratios.
	Number two...
	You start saying things like, OK, we don't need as many RNs.
	We just need PSWs or we just need RNAs, which are fancy terminology for assistance or lesser qualified, considering, nurses that went to college and didn't go to university.
	And we're going to pay them, let's say, 40, 45 percent less.
	Right now, I know a lot of these men and women.
	They're incredible nurses.
	They will never make an RN salary.
	They're expected to do what an RN does, yet their pay goes down.
	And that's how they've been changing things.
	So you have one RN, and then you have X amount of these other nurses able to do the job, but not really responsible to do the job, because that's accredited to the RN on staff.
	All of these things that I'm talking about is to say they're trying to figure out, they're doing the same in education, they're trying to figure out ways to make the system cost less without addressing a couple of fundamentals.
	Number one, we have an older and sicker population than we've ever had in our lives.
	Period.
	Full stop.
	Right?
	The baby boomers are ballooning.
	People like my mom, who are living, you know, she's in remission, and I'm very, very happy about that.
	The side effects of all of those things, I mean, my mom now has an endocrinologist, she has a rheumatologist, she has, because she has a stoma, whatever that doctor's called, we go to a lot of different doctors as we go.
	The doctors don't stay, they get taxed to death, is what the comment says.
	Yeah, so I mean, my mom has a lot of different doctors that she has to now go to.
	Funnily enough, as a result of the treatment, and I know a lot of people in this comments are going to agree with me, but as a result of the treatment she got for her cancer, right?
	So she got chemotherapy.
	It killed her kidney, so she had to stop.
	She then was prescribed immunotherapy, which at the time was only about five years new.
	They told us it wouldn't be curative.
	It would kind of just mitigate.
	Now, for my mom, thank God, it put her into remission.
	The problem with immunotherapy is...
	Sorry, I'm not...
	No, I'm just looking...
	I'm looking at...
	I'm fact-checking something you said earlier, which is...
	Go ahead.
	No, I'm sorry, because the five freest countries in the world, it's amazing.
	Oh, my God!
	You're going way back!
	No, I'm just...
	New Zealand.
	It's an amazing thing.
	We're like...
	We're living in Orwell's world where they're calling a country where they unilaterally freeze bank accounts a free country.
	They're calling a country like New Zealand where they...
	New Zealand, they have the five kilometer radius for the longest time.
	They have like...
	It's like we're living in a world where...
	Are you talking about pandemic time?
	I'm talking about countries that are not free countries.
	You're talking about...
	No, when you're saying five mile radius, that's why I didn't know what you're talking about.
	Five kilometer.
	No, but it's amazing.
	It's like you read that list.
	I don't know who established that list.
	You ask anybody, I don't think they would agree with that list.
	I'm sure they wouldn't agree with that list.
	Sorry, going back.
	So my point is this.
	My mom's treatment actually is, and again, I mean, if she didn't get it, she wouldn't be with me.
	So I want to be super clear.
	But it's because we've gotten good at treating something, but not necessarily treating holistically, and sure as hell not preventing, right?
	That it caused this ripple effect of cost as it affects the healthcare system.
	And to negate that reality, and I don't think, and I know some people are like, well, it's a business and doctors just want to keep people sick.
	Listen, I call absolute bullcrap on that.
	I have met some of the most beautiful doctors and healthcare workers who...
	Work tirelessly in order to find the best treatments for their patients they possibly can.
	And my mom wouldn't be here without them.
	What I am saying is that...
	A system like that, especially as new technology, and you know how expensive new technology is, is one-upping itself every five seconds to get that new access point.
	It's costing more and more money because of that new technology.
	So let's not assume that prices stay consistent no matter how big your population is, no matter how old they are, or no matter how new technology is changing the breadth of the system.
	That sounds like a long-winded answer of excusing the lamentable state of Canada so that you can shit on the critical state in America.
	The idea that anybody can celebrate what's going on in Canada as anything...
	Listen, I'll celebrate this, though.
	I'll celebrate this.
	You're looking up this, right?
	Yeah, although this is 15,000 die a year in ERs.
	By the way, how many have died over the last eight years waiting for doctors?
	Forget ERs.
	So you're in a country of 38 million, where hundreds of thousands of people are dying in ERs and waiting for health care, where the ER wait times are 30 plus hours in some places, and that country...
	Is held as the standard of universal healthcare in America and that country shits on America?
	I don't think I was held as the standard and I never ever said it doesn't need changing.
	I am saying that when we compare our country to other socialist countries, one of the other things that we have to deal with is we are a giant country with a very small population.
	Right?
	And what that means is giving adequate healthcare to all of those people, especially in very hard to reach areas and small communities and the same level of healthcare is even more expensive.
	Right?
	Those numbers aren't taking into account and aren't recognizing our specific issue.
	It's a small population country that much we all agree with, which is one of the arguments that you can't ask for socialized healthcare in a country of...
	400 million.
	Let's just round up America now.
	It's a big country with a small population that's dispersed.
	95% of the country lives within 100 kilometers.
	And I would say 95% of the country lives in five cities.
	So despite all of that...
	Well, no, because you're saying the problem is dispersed and the problem is concentration.
	The problem is, even in a country of 38 million people, the healthcare system, fully funded, is absolute lamentable shit.
	Full stop.
	I disagree.
	Absolutely I disagree because I've looked around and I've experienced it firsthand.
	You're looking, it's anecdotal and it's fine because you're not one of the ones who couldn't find it.
	I also grew up in the system itself.
	Anecdotals is mildly relevant.
	It's not irrelevant, but...
	Anecdotal is not going to...
	You got a doctor, that's good, but some people wait 18 months to get a GP. Set aside what long-term consequences that has.
	GP is a huge problem, absolutely.
	Well, GP is a huge problem.
	ERs are a huge problem.
	Preventative care is a huge problem.
	The healthcare system is such a huge problem that it's cheaper to kill people, which is what Canada, the freest country in the world, is now leading the charts on.
	But yeah, look, I appreciate the argument.
	You're talking about me there, I'm assuming.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	And the idea that more funding is somehow going to resolve the underlying issues, it's like the guy saying, the tax doctors to death.
	I never said that more funding was going to resolve the issues until more experienced people took charge.
	I also don't think that it's a perfect system.
	I also don't think there's not ways to make it better.
	What I am saying is this.
	I think, if I'm going to speak about the United States, in the most...
	Powerful, wealthiest country in the world.
	People are declaring medical bankruptcies, and let's be perfectly honest.
	How many people don't go to the doctor and die?
	We'll never know.
	We'll never know.
	How many people go and don't get treatment?
	How many people...
	People need surgeries they can't get because they can't afford.
	I mean, let's not pretend as though the United States is steering this ship properly.
	All I'm saying is, as a value, as a core value, when I speak about politics or I speak running a nation, this is it.
	This is it.
	If you want to do it differently, that's fine.
	But I promise you, as we've seen with Purdue and we've seen with all of the drug epidemics, because we still have a private pharmaceutical company here.
	You know, auspice here.
	That's not it.
	It's not the private world that's going to get you better.
	It's not.
	And I think at some point we have to acknowledge how to achieve a common good.
	And for me, when it comes to politics, there are fundamental sort of foundational things.
	And I would stipulate that health care has to be one of them.
	All right.
	Well, I got Ganthet.
	I got a member of our...
	I can't read these things.
	They're going so fast.
	This is a slow day.
	I mean, I realize they're all yelling at me, but...
	No, no.
	Explain what this is.
	This one's yelling at me.
	This is Ganthet from our locals community.
	He says, explain why established drugs who've been around for decades, i.e.
	AIDS, cocktail pills, yada, yada.
	$7 a pill.
	They changed from $7 a pill to $600 a pill.
	Or insulin prices being changed to $600 plus and higher for shots or EpiPens.
	Of 250 bucks a pack to thousands.
	Get the fuck out with your crap.
	I think he's talking to me.
	It's not expense, it's greed.
	Of course.
	It doesn't begin to explain the VA veterans affairs being caught, refusing to care because they hoped vets died instead of having to treat them.
	Now I'm not sure who Ganthet is yelling at it.
	The other thing is, I've now lived on both sides where I can say the American system is better if you can afford it.
	And obviously...
	Not so good if we can't.
	But then the issue is, and now having lived through both in a meaningful sense, the balance certainly marries more with a private-public proportionality than with an entirely public, which leads to basically a...
	Two-tier system, anyhow, in Canada, which is collapsing under its own weight.
	It already exists, by the way.
	Let's be crystal clear.
	Everybody thinks that it doesn't exist.
	Yes, it does.
	If I had $40,000, I could go pay a private clinic, downtown Toronto, in a very lovely office, and every time I had a sniffle, I could go into that office, and they could get an MRI, and I could get whatever it is I need.
	Even that, it's getting harder, even if you could afford it.
	Privately in Canada.
	It's like, that's why people go to the States, because they can't even get it in the two-tier system that exists in Canada.
	Well, I think they go to the States.
	I think they, yeah, sometimes they go to the States because of that, but also, that's, again, it's a matter of how much money you have, for example.
	And again, admitting the failures of the system does not negate the system.
	If the system has fundamentally failed and you continue to defend it, just throw more money at it.
	There's aspects of it that's failed.
	So for example, if I had to get a heart transplant, I'll get it.
	You say that, you might.
	But the amount of people who have died because they couldn't even get a doctor to be diagnosed with a heart condition in the first place, you're not factoring that in.
	Family doctors are a huge problem.
	You know what's interesting?
	I've tried to get my family doctor to come on my podcast because they have told me...
	They won't come on my podcast.
	But they have told me that the way in which they're allowed to access OHIP and the way in which they need to, and I'm going to, I can't explain it perfectly, but the way in which they have to set up their offices and then access OHIP and how much money they have to make and where they're getting it, it literally is putting doctors, is making it an economic disaster for them to even run their business.
	Just so everybody knows, OHIP is the Ontario Health Insurance Plan because Unlearned Joe is in Ontario.
	Yeah.
	Canada, people.
	Canada.
	So, yeah.
	She's never really explained it to me as well as I would like because I'd really like to talk about it a little bit more.
	But to understand that running an office, there needs to be ways, and this is where the government should step in, to be perfectly honest, but there needs to be ways.
	If you're a...
	If you're a general practitioner, you need to lease space.
	If you need to lease space, you're operating as a business, but you're not really operating as a private business because you're under OHIP, which is a publicly funded health insurance plan.
	So you're limited to how much you can charge.
	But you need to put your business in a space, and that space is going to be dictated by the economics of the day.
	I'm looking at this.
	This is what Encryptus has sent us.
	This is how the spending gets broken down.
	And everybody should understand, the actual spending is, I think it's, well, I know it's between 25 and 50% of every tax dollar paid into the system.
	I just don't know if it's closer to the 50 or the 25. I had on the...
	What's the orange?
	The orange, let me see.
	No, it's drugs.
	This is the breakdown of healthcare spending.
	Oh, just healthcare.
	Okay.
	So a quarter of 25 to 50% goes to the hospitals, which are right.
	It's actually just unbelievable the amount of waste.
	But look, so long as the concession is, yeah.
	If the Canadian system sucks too, then we're good.
	Absolutely never said it sucks.
	I know you didn't say it sucks because you won't.
	No, it's not because I won't.
	It's because I've experienced it.
	It's because I'm surrounded by people that have experienced it.
	It's because if something happens to me or my family, we will be taken care of.
	And I understand you're going to say there's 15,000 people.
	If you're looking for a utopia...
	Let's not confound the desire for a utopia for the desire of a system that is not fundamentally broken like the Canadian system.
	Unless you have boatloads of money, we both know where we would rather be living.
	And I could give very specific examples of friends living in the United States as well, especially trying to go through the VA system and what's going on down there.
	And that's not just a slam on Trump, to be perfectly honest.
	What's been going on with veterans?
	In the United States and in Canada for a very long time is abhorrent.
	Absolutely abhorrent.
	And I would say, I was going to say at least they're not, you know, telling veterans to take their own lives in the States.
	They are in record numbers, but they're doing that in Canada, among other things.
	Joe, the fight we got into this morning, because I, first of all...
	Well, the fight was about the gold card.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because you're not a baby, and I make jokes, but I still make respectful jokes with you.
	I will not call you the names.
	I'll call Doug Ford.
	And when I say, like...
	I'll call him names with you.
	No, no, no, because I'll use the F word.
	He's not my guy.
	You'll call him a soft stick of celery, and I'll call him a dumb fuck, and I'm not...
	But I say it with love.
	Same intent.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The argument we had this morning, and I like it because I still, I fundamentally think you're wrong and I think you're factually wrong and your logic is incoherent, where you said you accused Trump and Elon of selling out America.
	And then I say, how?
	Be specific.
	I'll get into the litany of the other stuff, which was not selling anything out.
	It was just criticism.
	The first and biggest one you gave was the visas, the gold.
	Five million bucks, you get to be a citizen.
	And to which I said, first of all, That gold card visa is merely an improvement iteration, if you don't want to use the word improvement, of the EB-5 visa, which was investment in America.
	And Canada has a similar thing.
	I pointed it out at some point, especially under Brian Mulrooney.
	And then I pointed out that it's also not selling out when it's literally an investment in, because whether you like the person who's coming in or not, the $5 million is literally being invested in the actual country.
	And then you proceeded to say...
	You didn't say equity-based.
	You said ethically-based.
	Also equally as fluffy.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Ethics and equity, you think are equally fluffy?
	You think having ethics is fluffy?
	Oh, I think adopting an ethical standard of immigration is fundamentally fluffy because all you get to say is we'll take in the ones we like and not the ones you like because of our ethics.
	Or we'll just leave the border open so we can let illegals come in and exploit them.
	Well, first of all...
	Okay, continue.
	So get back to the beginning.
	How is a compelled investment, or at least not even compelled, how is offering a massive investment in a country, in your mind, evidence of selling that country out?
	My basis for that isn't just about, because I know you said a lot of other countries have done it.
	I'd condemn them too.
	I don't know if I've ever heard you condemn Joe Biden at all.
	In fact, I think it's quite the opposite.
	Oh, my God.
	It was like watching grass grow.
	I can condemn lots of people, and a lot of people think that I'm just condemning Trump, and I'm not.
	What I want to say very clearly is the United States, and excuse the Wizard of Oz metaphor, but I did love Wicked.
	Shocking.
	The United States has been on the same yellow brick road for a long, long, long time.
	Trump is now just saying the thing that has been done previously.
	So, for example, when Trump argued with or was debating Clinton way back when, and he said she's never going to change the tax code because the same people that she gets all of her money from In the exact same ways that I, Donald Trump, make all of my money and use all the loopholes to do so, right?
	And he pointed to her.
	And to be honest, that was a brilliant moment.
	And somebody's going to clip this and say, oh, Unlearned 16 said Trump was brilliant.
	That was a brilliant moment, and here's why.
	He pointed out the corruption, he pointed out the problem and the failure, but...
	If anybody noticed, he never said he was going to fix it, and he still isn't going to fix it.
	He has no desire to fix, and that's why this Doge thing with, like, corruption, I'm going to root out corruption, absolute bullcrap.
	Your job and what you want to do is just figure out if the corruption is working for your side and your ethics.
	And if we're going to talk about ethics, and we're going to talk about freedom, look at the words he just banned from federal websites.
	You've got to be insane.
	You've got to be absolutely insane not to see that as a form of censorship.
	Jeff Bezos just told the Washington Post that they only get to have opinion pieces on two things.
	He kicked out the Associated Press because they didn't like the Gulf of America.
	There is incredible limits to what the media can do, who he's going to sit down with, who he's going to call out.
	You know he lies.
	Let's not pretend that he doesn't.
	This is what I call the shitstorm of arguments.
	You're throwing out not only too much.
	I believe what you said about Trump and the taxes is fundamentally wrong because I believe he floated the idea of a flat tax and abolishing the tax code.
	So let's see.
	Right now, if that's his idea and that's what he's going to do, he has both houses and, let's be honest, the Supreme Court.
	Put it through.
	But first things first.
	Put it through.
	A, by not mentioning what he's publicly stated as not campaign promises, but as campaign ideas, some would go after you personally for deliberately omitting relevant facts.
	But back at all, by not mentioning it, he doesn't have any incentive to get rid of the tax code because he benefits from it when he's proposed ideas to eliminate it and apply a flat tax.
	So that way some people say, that's not context, you're just not saying things that are relevant.
	But back to the selling out.
	Question, why wouldn't that be his first go-to?
	Well, I would say there are, first of all, there might be easier fish to fry or easier things to tackle right now.
	It's a big one, right?
	It's a big one, but I don't think the rest of the people are ready for that.
	But bottom line, it's incorrect to say, why would he?
	Because he benefits from it when he's actually suggested and put forward the idea, radical as it was when he suggested it, of abolishing the tax.
	Our tax isn't radical.
	No, but first of all, it is.
	And when he said it, it was as outrageous as when he suggested overturning Roe v.
	Wade.
	But just back it up.
	And maybe it's not fair of me because we use language and we use it not literally when we say, he's selling it out.
	I don't mean he's a Nazi, but I'll call him a Nazi.
	I don't really mean he's selling it out.
	How is having a tier of immigration available to people who are willing to invest substantial sums of money in the country selling out the country?
	Because that was your number one piece of evidence.
	My number one is, yeah, my number one is that because if he said something like, or if anybody said something like, listen, investing in the country is a great idea.
	We want to have the right kind of investment.
	We want to have the right kind of money because let's be perfectly honest.
	There's a lot of people, and Canada did this, and I'll blame, I'll look at Brian Mulroney's program, the BIP, right?
	We had a lot of people come into this country that got, let's...
	Say they're money from nefarious means.
	Would you agree with that?
	You did watch Lutnik's explanation of the gold card visa.
	This was my concern as well.
	Nobody wants cartel members coming in.
	They got $5 million.
	They want to launder.
	What better way to do it than invest it in?
	And I pointed it out to you, but there are risks for sure.
	Unvetted $5 million plopping it in without any tracing as to where it comes from.
	Obviously.
	Now, you're suggesting that despite their affirmations, that's what's going to happen.
	That's what they're going to do, even though they publicly stated.
	I'm suggesting, I'm just suggesting what do you lead with?
	And this is where I think a lot of people fundamentally disagree.
	So you can lead with money or you can lead with some code of ethic.
	And I know you're going to say, but ethics change and it depends on what I like and it depends on what I want and all of those things.
	And sometimes that's true.
	But I think we would all stand opposed to criminal activity now moving shop into the United States or into Canada.
	Nobody wants that.
	Why would you not lead with that kind of...
	Like, Donald Trump likes really good taglines, and you've already said it's just an extension of the same thing anyway.
	So if you're telling me it wasn't even new policy, I know the people that have stepped into those...
	Stepped into those roles.
	If you're leading with how much money you got, then I have a problem.
	Well, I'm thinking this out loud as you're talking now because, okay, ethics.
	What ethics do I care about in an immigrant?
	It would only be adhering to the values of the society.
	And I would say that it's almost a truism to say all immigration, if it's done properly, is ethical because at that last final step, they pledge an oath.
	To America.
	They take the oath of allegiance.
	And if they take the oath of allegiance, that's all the ethics I'm interested in when it comes to an immigrant.
	If they're going to do it loyally and faithfully.
	So, in that sense, you're saying, that's the ethics.
	Am I going to go, look, ethics before they decide to pledge the oath of allegiance almost sounds like I just want to let in the people I like personally and ideologically where the only relevant ethic to an immigrant is whether or not they are going to pledge allegiance to these United States of America, which they do as the last step.
	I have a question about that.
	Then, if that's your only caveat, right?
	Now, I'm talking about people with mass sums of money, right?
	I'm not talking about somebody...
	Those are very two different groups of people.
	Because if I can buy my way in...
	And I've amassed that kind of money.
	If I've collected $5 million that I can just throw around like that, I'm in a different category than the average immigrant.
	But let's put that aside for a second, because if you're talking about immigrants that come into this country, are they not allowed to want to change America?
	Interesting question.
	If the change they want to affect violates the Constitution and the Oath of Allegiance that they undertook, yeah, don't let them in ever.
	Can I give an example?
	I mean, I'm curious as to what example of change would not violate the tenet that they undertook to adhere to.
	Go for it.
	What if, what if, and I'm going to really piss off everybody in the chat.
	Thank God I can't read out of my glasses on.
	What if one of their primary directives was to eliminate religion from all government interactions?
	Eliminate religion from all government interruptions.
	No God in your...
	It's not even GTFO. You're not coming in.
	You want to come in with a fundamental principle that contradicts...
	You can believe whatever you want.
	I'm not saying eliminate religion.
	What you are asking the government to do...
	Is abolish the very principles upon which that government was built.
	That's not true.
	Separation of church and state was always clear.
	Separation of church and state is something different than removal of the word God from original documents.
	Why?
	Well, because of the very reason why they thought they had rights that were not alienable by the parliament.
	God was not put on money until, what, the 50s?
	First of all, I don't know about God put on money, but you said remove it from government, which means remove it from the constitution itself.
	No, I wouldn't do that.
	I wouldn't remove it from historical documents.
	A lot of people are going to say bullshit from someone who wants to tear down historical documents.
	I would say a bill that's been around for 70 years is a historical document.
	I mean, no.
	So if someone wants to come in and apply principles that defy the fundamentals of that country, go find another country.
	Plenty of atheists.
	Plenty of godless countries out there.
	So, yeah, I would agree.
	Anyone who wants to come in and change the country from the...
	Criteria that would admit it in the first place, the criteria upon which it was founded?
	Not well.
	You think that praying in the Oval Office is acceptable for the separation of church and state?
	You know what?
	I might have had a more attenuated answer 10 years ago.
	Seeing the way godless people live right now and what it leads to...
	I would say bring it back.
	And it doesn't bother me one iota.
	I can talk about the way a lot of people who believe in God live their lives, and we would be at equal footing.
	Let's be perfectly honest.
	We would be in terms of the immorality, but not in terms of the hypocrisy.
	I agree.
	I completely disagree on that.
	The reason why we look at religious people who defy the word of God and call them hypocrites is because they're defying what you understand are the values of religion and God.
	You don't look at an atheist who leads a life of immorality and say they're a hypocrite.
	You just call them a degenerate.
	And it's a very, very big distinction.
	So I agree.
	People are hypocrites and there are hypocrite religious people because they don't live by the principles that they purport to live by.
	That makes them hypocrites, not degenerates.
	Or it might make them both.
	I think it might make them both.
	Yeah, but you wouldn't call the degenerate a hypocrite because they never purported to live by the word of God in the first place.
	Because here's the difference.
	I'm not asking if it was, and I'm not even talking about atheists, right?
	I'm talking about anybody that...
	You can be an atheist.
	You can perform any religion that you want to take part in.
	I think if we're going to talk about freedom of religion, you need freedom from religion.
	You have freedom from religion.
	You never should have been told to shut your businesses on Sunday.
	You never should have been told that you need to stand up in the morning.
	And we did.
	Say the Lord's Prayer before you go to school in public school.
	If you want religious education, there are places for that.
	I think faith is beautiful.
	I think people should have it.
	I think our government should never, ever, ever try to use it to manipulate, weaponize it.
	Or control or indoctrinate, period.
	Would you go to Saudi Arabia and try to force them to abandon religion and accept...
	Would I be allowed to?
	That's the point, isn't it?
	Are you of the practice of entering people's houses and then telling them how to live?
	Nope.
	Not entering anybody's home because your home is your private...
	Your home is your private...
	Your home is where you live.
	What you feel and what you believe is what you believe.
	What goes on in government in a professed democracy isn't a theocracy.
	If it's not a theocracy, you keep it at home where it belongs.
	Because there's two paths of hypocrisy that I can pursue here, and I think I'll go with the second one.
	You would do it because you don't think there's anything oppressive about you going to a country who does not live by your standards and trying to change them to do so, but you wouldn't.
	Because you recognize you would be killed.
	Or jailed.
	Yeah, probably.
	Definitely.
	So the only reason people do it in the West is because they can get away with it because of the peace-loving, tolerant, Christian values of the West.
	Do you feel like you're a peace-loving and tolerant nation right now?
	America?
	As far as it goes?
	Not perfect, but more so than it.
	Well, it depends what you mean.
	The regime change aspect of the deep state or the military-industrial complex, I would say no.
	The people themselves and the principles upon which this country was built?
	Yes.
	And the reason why the country is faltering now is specifically because it's deviated from the principles upon which it was built.
	Probably because a bunch of progressives coming in and saying we're going to change those guys.
	I think that as countries become more secular, they become more accepting, they become more peace-loving.
	I don't believe that instituting or propping up or supporting any one faith makes you a more peace-loving country.
	Well, you're not propping up any one faith.
	You're respecting the fundamental faith on which the country was built.
	Let's not minimize what's going on in Donald Trump's White House.
	What's going on in Donald Trump's White House?
	There's a bunch of Jews in there.
	The praying, the standing over him and praying, the fact that, what's the woman called that he's elected, he's appointed?
	Well, not the religious woman who has a, you know, I would say, I could understand people view it.
	The woman that he's...
	To what position?
	It's like a minister of...
	I'm going to say this wrong.
	A minister of faith.
	I don't know.
	Our locals chat will know who it is.
	I know who you're talking about.
	But yeah, I've seen the videos.
	It's unique.
	It's not my cup of tea.
	And I know it's not even many people who are religious's cup of tea.
	Let me see if anybody's going to get the name.
	Yeah, and that's, you know, it's again, and if I was going to talk about Saudi Arabia, you spoke about Saudi Arabia, would I go there?
	No, because of course they would kill me.
	Possibly.
	Definitely.
	I also think they don't purport to be something they are not.
	But that's interesting.
	No, but what they're purporting is that no foreigners are going to come in and change the rules of our country.
	You don't have the right to do that.
	Do you think that's a better way to run a country?
	Well, no, I would say, first of all, no, because right now I'm not saying it from the perspective of the way the countries run.
	I'm saying it from the audacity of the person who goes and knows which countries will tolerate their interference and which ones won't.
	And it is very easy to go into the countries that are...
	Built on principles of Christian tolerance and then say, they're going to tolerate me while I subvert their country.
	I can understand why the progressive would do that.
	I can understand why...
	Again, it's not on the basis of Christian tolerance.
	No, but I can understand also why religious zealots would do it, who then come and say, ha ha, fools, now you've got to tolerate me while I oppress you using your own rules.
	That leads me back to the point where if you're not going to come in and agree to abide by our founding principles, you should not be let in, period.
	But the founding principles say freedom of religion.
	And if you're going to truly have freedom of religion, you need freedom from religion.
	I will die on that hill.
	But you could die on that hill.
	Unless you have freedom from.
	It would be a very silly hill to die on because nobody's compelling you to do anything religiously.
	I could agree.
	They are now talking about putting Bibles in every classroom in the United States.
	I also have a problem.
	You shouldn't...
	There is zero indoctrinization defense you could use when you're saying, oh, I'm not putting this in every single classroom.
	You know that as well as I do.
	I also think it's true we shouldn't be funding Catholic schools in this province.
	I think that's utter bullcrap.
	So there should be no, obviously, then, and there's a deep distinction between the two, the comparison, and I'm not equating the two, but then you shouldn't have BLM flags, trans flags, pride flags, or any of that indoctrination in schools by your own rationale.
	I would burn all flags.
	Okay.
	All of them.
	They can go, including, by the way, ones that signify, oh, well, this is such an important...
	I think flags as a symbol of anything useful is exhausting.
	I think it's stupid.
	I think here's the difference.
	And I stipulated this on more than one occasion.
	I will have any discussion with anybody, and I prove this.
	You're one of the few that comes on my channel.
	I'm one of the few people who hasn't got the hell off.
	I don't have literally on Twitter.
	It's just me and a sea of people that want to smack me in the mouth.
	But I won't leave because I refuse to leave the conversation.
	I really do.
	Because I do think there's inherent value on having highly divisive conversations and debates between people that stand on opposite ends of the spectrum.
	The only reason I come on this show is because A, you're intelligent, but But B, again, even though some of your hot takes are off the freaking wall, there's an ethic to you.
	You're going to have to come back to the hot take that is most off the wall, but we'll get there in a second.
	There's an ethic to you.
	And I refuse to give up on the option.
	But what I will say is this, there is no way in hell if I was running my school and I put up a Bible in the front office and made sure all my teachers have them and I have students walking in there, there's no way, there is no way you can say that that is not an oppressive indoctrinization methodology to be used. there is no way you can say that that is I disagree.
	You can have extroverture.
	I believe in this.
	If you go to a shelf in a school, they should have every book.
	I don't believe in censorship.
	We've talked about this.
	I don't believe in taking crap down.
	I don't believe in censoring opinions.
	But I sure as hell think it's hysterical how you think praying in the White House is somehow not an indoctrination tool and a tool to actually conjoin church and state.
	There's no way.
	You can't see that.
	I can't I'm glad first I'm glad at least you're consistent in the standard now it would be it's still an inconsistent application because historically and constitutionally the Bible and the the pledge of the Bible the 10 commandments are not analogous to the history and foundation of America as is the pride flags.
	So it's good that you don't discriminate or at least hierarchize the one that was relevant.
	By the way, hold on, pause for a second, because not having a pride flag in my classroom doesn't mean I don't talk about Stonewall.
	No, now you really piss off the kids if you're talking about indoctrination.
	That's history!
	How the hell is that indoctrination?
	What a historical moment!
	That's tongue-in-cheek.
	Stonewall as a riot.
	I hope you talk about the rooftop Koreans as well, because that's historical and also very relevant.
	What's my most off-the-wall take that you think is wacky?
	You know what?
	I think sometimes...
	Forget rhetoric.
	I think sometimes, because I've gotten to know you a little bit over the course of the last few years, I think sometimes the vitriol through which you speak loses a very good message.
	I would argue...
	Politeness doesn't go anywhere.
	I never said you had to be polite.
	No, no, but...
	Vitriol and being polite are two very different...
	True, but I also do say sometimes some of the...
	I can't really disagree.
	I wouldn't call it vitriol, but crassness or crudeness.
	And I would say, yeah, you might be right.
	No, and it's spun, right?
	I think it's just gotten heightened and heightened and heightened.
	And what I find interesting, as I still stay on Twitter, like somebody going down with a ship, what I find is...
	People, instead of it diminishing, because let's be honest, the people that have remained on that app, it's not next to the most diverse pool of individuals, let's just say.
	So people that have remained on that app, really, when you make a statement or when a Charlie Kirk makes a statement or whatever, there's a lot of general support on that app.
	If you were to make the same, you know this, if you were to make the same comment different places, there's a reason this isn't on YouTube.
	Communities will cite you and try to curtail you in different ways.
	What I find interesting is that I thought the vitriol would have died down, but it hasn't.
	Like, what's the point?
	What's the point at this?
	And we can go right back to the first clip, and I like it a full circle moment.
	I think we could stay on for hours, but I do have to film.
	It's not the positions.
	It's the method of expression.
	And I will certainly concede I've gotten more vulgar in at least when it's working.
	But what do you think that is, do you think?
	Because, first of all, being polite with scoundrels doesn't get you anywhere.
	And then you use words like...
	I'm hearing one solo of you.
	No, no, but I had this discussion with someone who was like, you know, the use of the F word is crass.
	Like, well, some people are going to say...
	Actually, use the F word all you want.
	That's not the crassness I give a...
	Okay, so now I'm curious.
	So what is it?
	I think it's more the directed attacks about two individuals.
	I'd have to go back through.
	I'm just saying that I've seen you go up rather than you creating a community that does, for the most part, listen to you and trust what you have to say.
	And rather than petering that off, I think it sells well to some people.
	And that, my friend, I don't like.
	Because you're above that, in my opinion.
	I think Jordan Peterson does it too, in a very different way, right?
	It's interesting that that's where it goes.
	I would say that if it turns out it doesn't actually make me money, but actually costs me money, then does it change the view in terms of the sincerity of the anger?
	I think you're sincerely angry.
	I'm curious about why.
	I don't...
	I can tell you why.
	I think you're sincerely angry.
	I really do.
	I don't think it's a put-on.
	I don't think it's a bit.
	I think you're sincerely angry.
	My question is, why has that escalated when...
	Because people are trying to call me a fascist for refusing to call a man a man.
	That's why it's escalating.
	It's a similar hill that Jordan Peterson wanted to die on too, yeah.
	No, but it's amazing.
	Why is it escalating?
	Because they're literally calling me indecent for calling a man a mister.
	Because they're literally chopping off the tits of 14-year-old girls.
	Do you understand?
	The flip side is also true about me.
	What, that you're trying to cut off the tits of 14-year-old girls as a protest to people?
	Meaning that when people come after me, they don't just come after me.
	They'll come after my job.
	And I'm very open about who I am.
	You'll never have seen me support anybody.
	I'm just telling you that when people come after me, it is in a very real, very personal, very attacking way.
	And they will flip all of that logic on its end in order to make me be something that I'm not either.
	You and I can disagree about, and we'll come right back to that first clip, because I think what happened to that clip, by the way, was theater on every friggin' side.
	Every side.
	I love the fact that McBride misgenders.
	I thought, I'll call him a hero.
	Yes, she said ma'am, right?
	Yeah, I'm Madam Chair.
	And I thought, oh, maybe McBride is referring to someone.
	No, and the whole irony here is McBride in that joke basically illustrated the absolute absurdity of compelling people to refer to him as a her.
	I disagree.
	It was so absurd.
	And by the way, what man has ever been insulted at being misgendered?
	I mean, sorry, let me rephrase.
	Are you okay?
	Every man.
	No, no, no.
	I was going to say every trans.
	What heterosexual, non-gender dysphoric individual has ever taken offense at being misgendered if it were as a troll, not because the person happens to look like Pat and then they're like, I'm actually a man, I'm not a girl.
	There I can see people getting insulted but not offended.
	You think Charlie Kirk gives a rat's ass about being called a sheep?
	Or a man?
	Listen, he's a very soft soul.
	You probably don't want to use him as your litmus test.
	If you don't call Charlie Kirk a communist, have you seen what happens to the boy?
	He melts down.
	You just have to know where the right insult lays in order to challenge their identity.
	Here's what I think.
	I get called a sir all the time.
	People in your comments have been doing it for the last hour.
	I don't care.
	But here's why I don't care.
	Because my safety is not attached to that.
	That's why I don't have to care.
	What does that mean?
	It's interesting.
	First of all, I say it in the most tolerant of sense.
	Just to come back to one thing, by the way, it's true.
	I'm not angry in the sense that people consider anger to be a sin.
	I am, call it passionate or just very...
	No, frustrated with an outrage.
	No, because angry is like, you're an angry man.
	People who say that often, well, they do it condescending, like, I pity you.
	I think anger is a terrible thing.
	I don't hate anybody.
	I might fear the people who people might think I hate, and I just want to protect myself from the toxic forces that would seem to hurt my children.
	You just said something that I said I wanted to get back to, which was, oh, my safety.
	What does that mean, my safety?
	It means that...
	I have never faced, and I'm going to say this out loud and heaven help me, I'll face something, but because of the way I present, right?
	Because of who I am, because of my big mouth, I have never faced violence as a result.
	And I think...
	As a lesbian woman, even though I look like this, and some people, like, so many people think I'm trans.
	I'm like, guys, I just cut my hair short.
	It's not the same thing.
	And that's why I don't love speaking on trans issues as though I'm, in any way, shape, or form, the expert.
	Because I'm not, and I will always stipulate on our front end, even though people seem to think.
	Just because I don't follow, you know, again, the short hair and the baggy jeans.
	You're quite clearly a woman.
	I've never even asked you.
	I just presumed.
	Listen, I get called stir, left, right, and center, especially if I have a hat on.
	You might look like Eminem, but that's only because Eminem looks quite effeminate these days and not vice versa.
	People will call me the wrong, whatever, and it doesn't bother me.
	But I'm never in a space where I feel threatened as a result.
	I'll tell you one time I was.
	So one time I was at a restaurant downtown Toronto, which is weird because Toronto's, but this was a while ago.
	Still short haircut or whatever and I was with my mom my partner at the time and we were all three of us were going to the bathroom as women do and I was the last one to follow in right so it was like you know a bit of a train and we're talking as we're rolling in and I get a grab now you can ask me go ahead and ask me you can even presume this manager grabbed me by the scruff of the neck And
	pulled me back and said, hey, listen, if any manager was going to get beat to death by a 65-year-old woman, it was going to be that one at that particular moment.
	And in that moment, just in that moment, and it abated very quickly, but in that moment, I was like, holy shit, the way that I look, he could have gone one step further, right?
	Or he could have pulled me back, I could have smacked my head.
	There's a number of things that could have happened in that particular moment.
	And what I will say about trans women is that they face a level of violence predominantly coming from straight men, especially if they don't quickly identify them.
	That there's a level of civic protection.
	That should exist.
	Now, you and I disagree on fundamentals when it comes to how people want to be addressed.
	I think addressing people with respect makes sense.
	And I think that anybody stands firmly opposed to that is trying to make a point that I don't understand, nor do I like, nor do I care about.
	Because at the end of the day, the way somebody wants to be addressed does zero harm to me, zero harm to my society.
	Period.
	Full stop.
	And that little interaction back and forth, that little interaction back and forth, is because, by the way, I think the guy who's the chair, I don't know his name, he was uncomfortable.
	He was uncomfortable doing it.
	It didn't feel good to him.
	But now, hasn't he been instructed?
	Hasn't he been instructed on how to...
	Identify and how to talk to people?
	If he's been instructed to call a man a woman, then I think the problem is...
	No, the opposite.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	The chair.
	The guy who banged his gal.
	Oh, no.
	The chair.
	I'll do a follow-up on that, but I just want to actually come back to one thing because it's interesting.
	Where you said...
	Oh, the two things that people are going to fact-check.
	I'm 90% certain that the majority of violence against trans people comes from...
	Either other trans in the community or because they happen to work in fields that are extremely high, prone to violence.
	And it's not from anger of straight cis men who don't like trans people.
	I think the violence comes from within the community, if I'm not mistaken, and I don't think I am.
	There was another thing that you said that I wanted to fact check and I'm going to forget it now.
	Damn it.
	Doesn't matter.
	Okay, well, that was...
	Well, do I get any questions?
	Sorry, I got caught trying to read, but again, I don't have my glasses on.
	It's so small.
	Don't try to read.
	No, it goes fast.
	Again, I come on here, and this, you know, don't get me wrong.
	If you were up, you would have the same problem.
	I read those last years.
	But the problem is, and the problem with all of the stuff going by is...
	There is such an easy way to make intelligent points.
	And when you choose not to use the right language, and you choose to just make, well, threats, let's be honest, at some points, you prove, and this is why I won't do it, you prove the other side right.
	And that's why I will go on, and that's why I'll have conversations with anybody, as long as, you know, like some people are like, would you sit down with Charlie Kirk?
	Of course.
	Because I don't think Charlie Kirk, even though I disagree with him, you know, would you sit down with Jordan Peterson?
	Yes.
	Because there's not an underpinning of violence.
	And some of these comments, that's your underpinning.
	And no, like, the reality is there's some therapy needed if that's how you have to lead your conversation.
	You and I are having conversations about how to take care of people better.
	The internet is the internet.
	Sure, but it's still a reflection of society.
	I think the internet is brilliant.
	I don't think so.
	I think it's a reflection of a small majority of people who take advantage of the anonymity of the internet.
	Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What I was going to say was this, actually.
	When you said this, you know, someone says, call me Ms. McBride when I know who you are.
	It doesn't hurt anybody.
	And now I've come to disagree with that because fundamentally, and it's where it necessarily goes if it wasn't the object or target all along.
	Confusing kids as to basic biology and vilifying the respect of basic biology is fundamentally destructive.
	It might even be the most destructive thing that you're basically...
	Do you think teaching a kid that the earth is flat is abuse?
	Nobody's teaching...
	Look...
	It's just a straight up question.
	Do you think teaching a kid that the earth is flat is abuse?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	Do you think teaching a kid that boys can have vaginas is abuse?
	No.
	Because I think there's context to that.
	You're stipulating it as because what you teach is what exists in the world.
	And if you're not going to teach what exists in the world in a real way, I will always talk about trans women and trans men.
	And I'll tell you right now, there is no kid.
	There is no kid.
	And first of all, I don't teach young kids, right?
	So we're not in the same...
	But I'll tell you how much teenagers care about the trans community.
	They care to be respectful and then that's it.
	They're bored by the conversation.
	I'm telling you right now.
	Until such time as someone surrounds their table and says, call him or her or call her or him.
	And again, when you were talking in the beginning about, I don't remember the person's name, but when you were talking about whether or not they'd had surgery or not.
	This whole thing seems to be petering or teetering on how they present and if they pass.
	Because I could show you a crap ton of men, right?
	Trans men.
	There's no way you would want them.
	You'd be like, oh my god, you're not going in the women's bathroom.
	So now what do we do?
	Because we're not dealing with reality.
	You're dealing with, well, I wish they didn't exist.
	And that's your own prerogative.
	I never said that.
	No, no, no.
	I don't mean that in a genocidal way.
	I've never said it.
	I don't care.
	And this is the whole thing.
	I don't care how anybody presents.
	My question is this.
	And then you falsified.
	It's not a question of how they present that determines how I regard them.
	It is.
	It is a matter of who they are and what they are.
	No, but it is.
	It's going to be an assumption, Viva, because unless you're doing a chromosomal check on every single person you come in contact with, I'm telling you right now that between hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery, you can't tell, my boy.
	No, no.
	I can actually tell you that 99.999% I can tell.
	You know who the only two I couldn't tell and I didn't know?
	Buck Angel and Blair White.
	You?
	There was never a question in my mind.
	I've got plenty of...
	I'm not trans!
	No, no, but...
	So you're saying if I... Well, how they present.
	there would only be a fraction of a percentage where it would be so ambiguous that I wouldn't know or that I might actually make a mistake.
	I've known people who look sufficiently androgynous that you'll call them a he when they're a she.
	No, no, no.
	I'm talking about the trans community.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	And again, I don't love talking about the trans community because I'm not an expert on the trans community.
	And I think there's something a little out of pocket there.
	I've known enough trans people.
	To know there's a variance, by the way, in the way they think, the way they present, the way they want to be identified, what they need, what they don't need.
	So I think it's also funny that we sort of categorize and say they're all this because it's just not true.
	I have a good friend of mine who is a trans man.
	He will say he's a trans man to the day he dies.
	He's like, Joanna, that's who I am, period.
	And he says, the fact that I used to be a woman.
	is a part as much of a part of my identity as being a man today as being a trans man today that is who I am and this is a part of who I am now when I listen to that I respect it but I've also listened to people who have fought incredibly hard and Now just want a modicum of respect in order to walk in this world without feeling attacked,
	persecuted, and vilified.
	And before you say that doesn't happen and violence in the community, that's not true.
	First of all, I'm sure that you'll find that 99.999% of the time that happens, which is people getting frustrated or voicing their anger, it's when someone says, it's ma'am, please.
	It's when it's a 6'6 guy playing volleyball saying, it's ma'am.
	That's when you get the pushback.
	Did you see the stat of how many NCAA athletes are trans?
	First of all, I don't even care.
	It's like, well, only 1% of the fentanyl comes across.
	How many?
	There's 16 or 22. I saw the number.
	I think 10. Right now.
	First of all, I don't care.
	It's like, it's the whole thing.
	I don't care in any sense.
	By the way, I don't care about sports.
	One is too many when it comes to biological unfairness.
	And it's like 1% of the fentanyl.
	Doesn't mean I don't want to stop the 1% of the fentanyl.
	You want to talk about biological unfairness?
	I used to play, and then I'm going to have to go.
	I used to play volleyball against a woman in high school who was 6'3".
	Her thighs were as big as my waist.
	Her wingspan was Michael Jordan.
	When she hit the ball, I just covered my face and hoped for the best.
	Where was the biological equality there?
	Joe, Secretariat was still a horse.
	He doesn't get to race against Jaguars who identify as horses.
	That's a different species.
	Now you step into a different species.
	What I'm saying to you is this.
	If we're talking about...
	Athletics is great because I really wish...
	I really wish I could find somebody to do this podcast with, both from the community, and I would like a full table about this, because the levels of sort of sport inequity, not inequity, I know your people are going to hate that word, inequality, are astronomical.
	And I'm not even going to include drug use.
	I'm not even going to include.
	I'm not even going to include how much performance-enhancing medication people are taking.
	Look at Lance Armstrong.
	Lance walked around pretending to be the hero for how many years?
	And when he's retired, he goes, oh, by the way, by the way, it was all on juice, guys.
	I was blood doping the entire time.
	Where was the sport equity or equality there?
	First of all, he's banned from everything forever.
	Yes, he's gone.
	Was too hard.
	No, and stripped of everything.
	That's why we admitted it.
	He's like, I'm done now, by the way.
	I actually think he got punished a little too hard because they were all doing it.
	Why did he get punished so hard?
	Listen, I say we let them all do as many stupid things as they want to do to track up their bodies so they can throw something far.
	That was the SNL skit with Kevin Nealon.
	It was classic.
	Just let them all do it.
	They can all be...
	Anyways, I have to go.
	Go, Joe.
	You stayed on much longer than I thought we were going to...
	Thank you very much.
	But seriously, thanks for coming on.
	I like it.
	I think you're wrong pretty much.
	I like pointing out that you're wrong.
	I don't...
	I like the pylons that happen, but if you're less wrong, the pylons will happen less often.
	Joe, it was great talking to you and we'll be in touch.
	Okay, bye.
	Have a good one.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Okay, good.
	Now we're going to go over to Rumble because we still have stuff to talk about.
	I think you all better give me credit for that analogy.
	She's right.
	It was a different species versus different sexes, but that is the structural similarity.
	I'm trying to think, actually, in any sport.
	In horse racing, I can't think of any sports where they have animals competing.
	What's the predominance of male animals in sports racing?
	In Cryptos, in the backdrop, as we merge over to Rumble, do you know anything about this, people?
	I do not.
	I do not, but there is the Super Chats in your text messages before you jump off.
	Ah, geez louise.
	That's right, because over on...
	Commitube on studio.
	I don't get the super...
	Okay, let me do all the super chats.
	Everyone, get your butts on over because we still have other stuff to talk about.
	I'm going to do rumble rants, super chats, locals tipped questions.
	I'm trying to think now.
	In horse racing, I would venture that all the animals, all the winning animals are male.
	Let me see if...
	Okay, everyone look that up for a second while I do this.
	Donations over from...
	Gantet, I couldn't tell if you were angry at me.
	There's no question there's greed within the system.
	I appreciate the argument for why medications cost more in the States because they have to incentivize research and whatever, R&D. I appreciate that.
	There's definitely greed, as we've seen with...
	That dude who bought the patents and then jacked up the prices.
	Encryptus says, fun fact, there is a higher percentage of spending on drugs than physicians in the Canadian healthcare system.
	Very interesting Encryptus.
	And then we got the graph here.
	Liberty Centric says, if Ukraine is agreeing to a ceasefire, why did we resume providing military aid to them?
	Well, why that would be to fudge the ceasefire.
	Liberty Centric.
	I have to see what's going on there.
	Scariest words.
	I am from the government.
	I'm here to help.
	As an attorney, that deals in medical every day for 20 years.
	America has...
	EMTALA, E-M-T-A-L-A-A, ALA, and look at the Oklahoma Surgery Centers.
	Insurance and government messed up the system.
	There's, yeah, I caught a little alligator gar yesterday and a little bastard caught my finger with its teeth.
	What did I just say here?
	Nearly every major country has a golden visa program for investment in the country.
	The USA has one for decades.
	This is not a new thing.
	Yeah, I think she's going to conceive that it was hyperbolic and not necessarily.
	Selling out in the actual meaningful sense.
	There is no such thing as separation of church and state, not in a law written anywhere.
	No, my answer is if you don't want to say the Pledge of Allegiance, well, if you don't want to read the Ten Commandments, don't read it.
	See, if you don't want to say the Pledge of Allegiance, that's a bigger problem because that's the principle of the country in which you live.
	Giggums Giggum says, please someone tell her the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation.
	I was looking up the words of the Pledge of Allegiance, and then they'll argue that the word, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
	And then I think that only came in 1954. The original said, I pledge allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
	Allegedly, 1855. 1923, the words, the flags of the United States of America were added.
	You know what, I'm going to show this just in case this is total bullshit and I'm reading a totally crappy history of the Pledge of Allegiance.
	1923, then we got 1954. In response to the communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged to add the words, Under God.
	1954. Section 4 of the Flag Code states...
	Okay, that's what I read.
	The original Bellini salute, 1892, who founded the original pledge began with the word to the flag.
	And, okay, well, someone will correct me on that.
	We're going to end this on...
	I have to read the chats first.
	Encryptus, thank you.
	I'll look for my texts.
	Superchats.
	Just going to scroll here.
	We've got one from Grumpy Old Guy's Opinion.
	In fact, we've got two from him.
	The goal is to limit the approved veterans' applications with the loophole of, quote, service connection, end quote.
	Only surplus of money.
	The money is used for illegal aliens medical treatments while in ICE custody.
	And then he says also, the woman was hurt by a religious leader.
	The chip on her shoulder should, who virtue signals way too much with humanistic morality.
	That is over on our...
	I'm going to reflect on the comments of my tweets.
	If the message is good, but I swear too much.
	No.
	It isn't about swearing.
	It was about the directed nature of it.
	She said, literally, she didn't care about the swearing.
	Calling someone a fucking retard.
	Directly calling someone a retard is kind of directly pecking.
	Yeah, but what if they're acting fucking retarded?
	How am I supposed to say it then?
	Oh, okay, fine.
	I can say I only do it to big accounts, and then I'm probably certain I do it to people who troll.
	And then I was like, oh, well...
	The thing is, I don't think I do it to people who I don't know because they might actually be.
	And I don't want to actually offend someone who might have a mental disorder.
	Okay, let's go here.
	Oh, hold on.
	I'm going to bring these up.
	Then we're going over to Rumble.
	Come on, people.
	Let's do this.
	We got...
	DeJong says, if gender matters in sports, why have segregated sports?
	Rhetorical.
	And not just that.
	The biological unfairness that she was talking about also, that's why they have weight classes.
	Now, it just so happens in volleyball, they don't have weight classes, but that's why short Jews like myself don't play volleyball.
	I did wrestle, and I was still wrestling above my weight, because in high school I weighed 155 pounds, and I was wrestling guys who were in grade 11. Every now and again I won.
	It was fun.
	But that's why they have weight classes, that's why they have sex distinctions, and that's why there's no height limits in certain sports, but that's why tall people are better at basketball.
	And you have the occasional Muggsy Bogues.
	Okay, rant over.
	King of Biltong says, why are trans kids singled out and sexualized?
	We don't sexualize any other children like trans kids.
	The rest of them are left alone.
	Trans kids are dragged off because they're the easy ones to manipulate and groom.
	Period.
	And by the way, what she said about kids, I can tell you, having kids...
	It's not true that they just, nobody gives a shit.
	Someone's gay, whatever, that's fine.
	The second they start oppressing other people's thoughts and their own, the blessing of their own conscience, that's when they're like, fuck, fuck.
	Sorry, person.
	Piss off.
	You refer to yourself as you want to refer to yourself.
	I know a lot of kids.
	I mean, I've got three kids.
	I'm involved in their lives.
	King of Biltong says, looking for some healthy meats, healthy snacks.
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	All right, now we are going to go over to Rumble, people, and have the party there, and then we're going to have our locals after party.
	By the way, big news coming soon, so stay tuned.
	Just tease that a little bit.
	And updating!
	Commitube!
	Bye-bye!
	Twitter!
	Bye-bye!
	But I do like Jo because she's not a thoughtless person.
	In fact, she's thoughtful in what she says.
	I think she's wrong, and I think...
	What was the part where I got the cognitive dissonance at the end?
	Oh yeah, teaching a kid that the earth is flat is abuse, but teaching them that boys can have vaginas and girls can have penises is not.
	That's right.
	That, I believe, is cognitive dissonance in reality.
	I would make the argument that I don't necessarily think it's abuse to teach a kid that the earth is flat because they'll learn.
	And also, it is a factually incorrect...
	That will have zero consequence on anybody else on this earth.
	Teaching a kid that something that is absolutely wrong is true, that Santa Claus exists and dinosaurs never existed, it's fundamentally wrong, it's fundamentally stupid, but it affects absolutely nobody else on earth.
	Teaching a little boy that if a 35-year-old man says he's a girl that you have to call a man, that hurts other people on this planet.
	Through fundamental confusion of the most biological realities and other stuff.
	All right.
	Michigan winter days.
	Did I bring this one up?
	Senneville man charged in crash at Cook Nuclear Power Plant.
	What is this?
	I'll look that up afterwards.
	That's in our...
	DeJong says, if gender doesn't matter, why we have it in sports?
	Okay.
	And then we got Encryptus says, 65 to 75% of all racehorses are male.
	All right.
	What about the winners?
	Guarantee it's 99%.
	What percentage of winning racehorses are male?
	And then do the same thing with greyhound dogs.
	I don't like dog racing, but I'm curious.
	Not just participants, but winners.
	Let me see something here.
	Okay.
	Encryptors, are you going to try to find the answer to that one?
	I'm going to say, dare I say 98%.
	I am looking.
	I'm going to predict it.
	I would say 100. But I'm sure we're going to have an anomaly of a female horse race, a horse racing horse, at a time when all other male horses were just non-anomalous.
	Ganthet says, you have the freedom to pursue whatever you want in the U.S. You do not have the right to violate my rights to impose speech on me.
	Furthermore, if violence against trans people happened in the numbers you spoke of, it would be on the news more than school shootings.
	Well, previous post about healthcare wasn't angered towards you, Viva.
	Okay, fine.
	I know you never know, but maybe it was.
	Why are trans kids...
	I got that one too.
	Okay.
	King of Biltong, Encryptus.
	And we got it.
	Oh, by the way, that was the other thing I was going to say.
	Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
	You don't want to say religious prayer in school.
	Well, sit silently or opt out.
	But...
	I wonder if she'll get in trouble for saying she doesn't believe that there should be trans flags in schools.
	It's interesting.
	Did I miss that one?
	Secular does not...
	Oh yeah, go for it.
	So I was saying the horses, 67% are winners.
	Or male.
	67% of all race winners are male.
	I'm going to go ahead and not believe that statistic because it contradicts what I initially thought would be reality and therefore it's too upsetting for me to have to retract what I thought.
	Okay, let's just do this.
	In what races?
	The Kentucky Derby.
	What percentage of Kentucky Derby winners?
	We're female horses.
	There's only been three female winners in the Kentucky Derby.
	Out of how many winners?
	Well, only three out of 138 years.
	Okay, so that's pretty close.
	97%.
	Interesting.
	So that's to say that at lower levels of competition, more female horses were in.
	That's sexist in Cryptus.
	Why would you even say that?
	Okay, I'll show my face.
	All right, let's see what else we had on the menu for tonight because we did have other stuff on the menu.
	Well, it's on the thumbnail.
	I should have done it on YouTube, but we got diverted.
	The dumbest of dumb fucks in Canada.
	Speaking of being crass and crude, hold on here.
	Let me bring it up.
	I did bring it up because I have to give myself a hard time when maybe at some point in my life I'll want to rescind, recant, and repent for my mean tweets.
	Where is my one with Doug Ford?
	I know that I brought it up, because maybe I didn't bring it up.
	I'll have to get it here.
	Hold on just one second.
	From what I understand, Doug Ford folded, and we're going to have to call him Doug Fold.
	He buckled on the threat of retaliatory tariffs, and he said he was going to come down and see...
	Here we go, here we go.
	This is it right here.
	Let me just make sure my messages are not open.
	I'm just going to go to incognito for this one.
	I might be having on a good guest very soon, so we'll see about that.
	Hold on.
	Let me bring this up so that I can revel in my own improper juvenile trolling on the internet.
	Imagine that for a brief moment...
	Doug Ford thought he was a financial, political, and military equal to Donald Trump.
	Canada is ruled by the dumbest of dumbfucks.
	In cryptos, is this one too crass?
	Is this like targeting someone too hard?
	I'm joking.
	And the only people that suffer for it are Canadians.
	So the latest that's been going on in Canada, Doug Ford, and he is the dumbest of dumbfucks.
	I mean, this is like, people say, I got a reply that said Doug is just trying to protect the Canadian people.
	He's a hero.
	He's standing up.
	Just trying to stand, defend, protect his own people.
	Here, not to put anybody on blast.
	If you want to have a discussion, you're going to come on Twitter.
	We're going to have a discussion.
	Where did you get the indication that Doug Ford thought any of that?
	A man is standing up for his province, his country, his people.
	And somehow, you just don't like that, huh?
	Wonder what that's all about.
	You know, one wonders, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I don't even understand if this might have been sarcasm.
	Let's assume that it was being sincere.
	A man standing up for his province, his country, his people.
	And yet, somehow, you just don't like that.
	To which I said, Doug Ford stands up for his province in response to Trump.
	He's a hero.
	Trump stands up for his country and somehow he's the villain.
	What would he be suggesting?
	Why wouldn't I like that?
	This is not to put anybody on blast.
	We come to Twitter.
	We have a public discussion.
	Trump comes in and imposes tariffs because he's identified problems that are not being addressed.
	He's not a hero for standing up for his country, but when Doug Ford retaliates with idiotic tariff threats, taxing of electricity, or cutting off the electricity, which was the latest, he's a hero.
	This is a double standard.
	And not just a double standard, but it's one that's predicated on the fact that Canada has been exploiting of its relationship with America for decades.
	It knows it has.
	And all of a sudden, when someone comes in and says, no, you're not going to ride for free on our backs, they're like, what are you doing?
	You're taking away stuff that we've been taking for granted for decades.
	Now we're just going to stand up for our rights, and they're the heroes.
	Listen to this idiot of a politician.
	We might not get the original, but here's him walking it back.
	Just before he had said, we're going to cut off electricity.
	New Yorkers, know that we don't hate you.
	Listen to this.
	Well, just a little while ago, I had an opportunity to speak to Secretary Lutnik.
	And Secretary Lutnik has sent out an olive branch.
	To come down and immediately meet with him, meet with the whole trade administration, and discuss the future.
	Rather than waiting until April 2nd, threats going back and forth, tit for tat, I've agreed.
	Of which I've just been doing for the last week.
	And as recently as 12 hours before this video message, as far as I can tell.
	To suspend.
	Temporarily.
	And we always have that tool in our toolkit.
	Don't forget.
	We're equals.
	We're equals.
	I'm not an idiot.
	We're equals.
	I'm the Premier of Ontario.
	You're the president of the most powerful military economic force in the world.
	Yep, yep.
	I still have my threat of cutting off Ontario electricity to New Yorkers.
	Good for you, moron.
	Down over the next day or two, I'll be heading down to Washington along with Dominic LeBlanc.
	And we'll have a good discussion.
	By the way, as far as I'm concerned, his greatest sin right now is pronouncing Dominique LeBlanc's name like a total Anglophone who doesn't respect the French language.
	It's not LeBlanc.
	And it's not...
	What was his name from Friends?
	Matt LeBlanc?
	It's LeBlanc.
	Matt LeBlanc.
	Call him LeBlanc.
	Make it as much of an Anglo pronunciation as humanly possible.
	I'm joking.
	I'm not.
	You know, with any negotiation that we have...
	There's a point that both parties are heated and the temperature needs to come down.
	And I thought this was the right decision.
	They understand how serious we are about the electricity and the tariffs.
	And rather than going back and forth and having threats to each other, we have both agreed that cooler heads prevail.
	We need to sit down and move this forward.
	After I've lost my cool, after I've acted like a hothead, after I've picked a war with a country that could crush me, let's let cooler heads prevail.
	By the way, do we need to play this out?
	I don't think we need to play this out.
	I had this revelation this morning as I was coming back from Loxahatchee.
	By the way, stick around the locals.
	I got a video that's going to blow your freaking minds.
	What we are witnessing, Is what happens when the dumbest of dumbfucks take power.
	What happens when people who have been rewarded for the wrong type of behavior in their positions of power repeat that wrong behavior because they've been wrongly rewarded for it in the past.
	What we are witnessing, and this is a bit of a tirade of the social media phenomenon, what we are witnessing is virtue signaling Reaching politics.
	These idiots, instead of addressing complex issues the way they need to be addressed, virtue signal policy.
	They virtue signal policy while implementing non-diplomacy and think that threats back and forth and not discussing in real life is the way to go.
	Kind of like exactly what they've done with Russia, Putin and the conflict in Ukraine.
	Kind of exactly like what they've done.
	Ukrainian flags.
	I stand with Ukraine.
	We will not discuss with Putin.
	And we're going to kick out all diplomats.
	How does that work out?
	Well, it's not your kids, so you don't really give a sweet bugger all.
	Hundreds of thousands of young men and women dead because you adopted politics the way you employ social media and virtue signaling.
	Stand with Ukraine.
	Fund them forever.
	I'm not sending my kids.
	We're not going to discuss with anyone.
	You can't negotiate with Hitler.
	Kick out diplomats.
	That's what they've been doing politically.
	Because they've learned the wrong lessons from social media and virtue signaling, and that's why we're run by idiots who adopt stupid tactics that are ultimately destructive and only hurt the little people, that being us, citizens, so they can look good and feel strong while they're doing it.
	I bet Ford felt really good when he was putting out his throne.
	I'm going to cut off electricity.
	I don't want to do it.
	look what you made me do, says every abuser on earth.
	So that's what they've done.
	And they have to bend over afterwards.
	And I will make fun of him for it, because it didn't have to be this way.
	And when Pierre Poilievre, if he manages to win an election that he's squandering, a double-digit lead because he's a jackass, showing that there's zero difference between liberals and conservatives, he will have to come groveling back.
	And if Trump is courteous, which he is, despite what everyone thinks, he'll...
	He'll make light of it.
	He'll make a joke.
	Oh, hey, good to see you, governor.
	And then they're all going to have to laugh.
	Thank you, sir.
	They're going to have to do it.
	You don't have to come groveling back asking for forgiveness when you've gotten spanked if you didn't act like a haughty, arrogant ass in the first place.
	Jeez, who would have thunk, Doug Ford?
	You should pick up the phone before you do stupid shit.
	Remember when Mark Carney gave his answer during the debate?
	Well, on my first day, I'm going to dollar for dollar tariffs.
	We're going to cut off electricity.
	And then I'm going to call Donald Trump.
	And then you're going to go?
	Well, it's going to be a busy day in crypto.
	See if you can find that clip.
	I know I played it, but see if you can find that one in the one with Doug Ford issuing his first...
	I was like, oh, that's great, Carney.
	How about you pick up the phone in the morning so you don't dig a hole that you then have to crawl out of?
	And then people are going to say, well, Vivo, you told Doug Ford to go fuck himself.
	I did.
	And I have no illusions about the fact that I would make a very terrible politician because I don't play these stupid-ass games.
	I don't think of myself as greater than I am.
	I don't think I'm punching up.
	I'm not going to go get into a tit-for-tat with someone who's ten times my size.
	And I'm also not going to bite the hand that feeds me because the hand of America, it might be a reciprocal, bilateral, mutually beneficial, symbiotic relationship.
	That doesn't mean it's an equal one.
	You know, the little fish that clean the teeth of the shark, it's a symbiotic relationship, not an equal one.
	Maybe in the long run, if it doesn't have that little fish cleaning its teeth, the shark's teeth are going to rot and it won't be able to hunt as effectively.
	Maybe.
	But in the meantime, it's a cleaner fish and it's a shark.
	And not to say that Canada's a cleaner fish, but Canada is not a...
	Canada is, I mean, more analogous to that than actually just to being a smaller shark with a big shark.
	It's a symbiotic relationship, but nobody has any illusions that the security of the Western Hemisphere is assured by America, American military might.
	Some might argue that any insecurities within the Western Hemisphere are also caused by American foreign policy.
	You can make your arguments there, but you still have to accept basic reality.
	So Doug Ford buckled.
	And, you know, oh, the elbows up, isn't this okay?
	And that's it.
	I love this.
	And I also called it, by the way.
	After the threat.
	Am I going to get accused of putting on blast this jackaninny?
	Oh, he's standing in front of the Tesla cyber.
	Can you imagine what an idiot you have to be to look at a Tesla cyber truck and see Chinese military tanks?
	The irony being that in damaging Tesla, you actually only benefit the very same regime that put the tanks in front of that guy in the first place.
	Congratulations.
	It will fail.
	If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we were justified our brief moment here.
	We did all that could be done.
	Joined February 2024. All right, well, whatever.
	Puts out the tweet.
	This man is clinically insane.
	Not an exaggeration.
	Confession through projection, if I ever had to guess, but then I wanted to go see what the insanity was.
	This was Trump doing, I mean, like, somebody would say, Viva, it's so effing obvious.
	You're not Nostradamus, you're just someone with a mildly functioning brain.
	Trump truthed out, why would our country allow another country to supply us with electricity, even for a small area?
	Who made these decisions and why?
	And can you imagine Canada stooping so low as to use electricity that so affects the life of innocent people as a bargaining chip and threat?
	They will pay a financial price for this so big that it will be read about in the history books for many years to come.
	What's mentally unhinged about that?
	Some people, and I can steel man this as well, are going to say Trump is confessing through projection.
	Trump is accusing his adversaries of doing what he is doing.
	He's saying, how can Canada use electricity stooped that low to affect the life of innocent people?
	To which people are going to say to Trump, or at least the left would if they have half a brain, some of them do.
	Well, Trump, you imposing tariffs is doing that exact same thing.
	You're hurting the little people of Canada.
	You're using them as a bargaining chip or a threat for your own political profit.
	That's true.
	I mean, you couldn't even disagree with that logic.
	The only difference is Trump is doing it, if he is doing it, threatening the little people of Canada so that he can protect the little people of America.
	And then some of you are going to say, well, it's not actually going to work because it's going to jack up prices for things that come from Canada, like electricity, like lumber.
	And then others might say, yeah, it might do that for a short period of time until America realizes that it needs to be energy independent.
	You mentioned, oh, because we're reliant on Canada or we, they, Canada, America.
	Because America is reliant on Canada, even if it's only northern states for electricity, that's somehow less of a national security threat of being reliant on China for medicines?
	Or being reliant on Saudi Arabia or Venezuela for oil?
	Like, it's not because Canada's a nice, polite country now that it's not a national security threat to be reliant on them for anything.
	Canada, through no fault of its own, can be taken over by China.
	It could be, through fault of its own, taken over by China.
	And China can come in and say, F you, Mr. Trump.
	We didn't like your use of the term China virus.
	Now we're cutting off electricity.
	It's a national security threat to be reliant on a foreign entity.
	For anything that is critical to infrastructure.
	And Trump realized it.
	He knew it before, quite obviously.
	You think Trump's an idiot?
	He knew it.
	And he knew that Doug Ford is a...
	What's after AAA league?
	He's a double B league player.
	And he knew that Doug Ford was going to do the stupid thing that would allow Trump then to say, holy crap, I just discovered that we're reliant on Canada.
	That's unacceptable.
	So congrats.
	Canada played into the trap.
	They've highlighted now to Americans that not only are some Americans reliant on Canadians' export of electricity, they can't rely on Canadians to export that electricity.
	So everybody played it badly.
	I would say maybe, except Trump, but there's some political blowback.
	So you've got BB League with DD Manzier.
	I don't even know what this stuff means.
	What is a Manzier?
	Anyway, that's it.
	Okay, so forced name change says, Hey Viva, if you allow me to make a poor analogy, Canada has a cold and all of our political parties are nothing more than cough medicine.
	Whether it's Buckley's or NyQuil, it's not a cure for the problem.
	Eh, I'll just go look.
	Canada has been taken over by communists, Chinese communists, terrorist entities, and corrupt piece of shit politicians who are...
	controlled by China and terrorist entities, or who are just so thoroughly corrupt for their own interests, they are totally reliable to be corrupt pieces of shit who will destroy Canada so they can reign over the ashes.
	And now you got...
	Oh, yeah, the globalist there, Mark Carney, has yet to be sworn in.
	I think last I checked, he was supposed to be sworn in on Friday.
	Yes, on Friday.
	All right.
	We got more.
	Let me see what else I got here.
	I want someone to insult me.
	Am I an idiot?
	First of all, I'm concerned.
	Am I too mean?
	Am I too crude and crass?
	Am I wrong, more importantly?
	Encryptus, I hear you.
	It said no, no, and no.
	I think you're not too rude.
	You're not too crude.
	You're not too crass.
	And you're not wrong.
	There is definitely sometimes people can take the loud, let's say, voice that you have and take that as being mean.
	But when you're calling out stupidity for what is literal stupidity, you can't really argue that it's wrong.
	Someone said yes, yes, and yes.
	But soothing energy, now I need the evidence.
	So on what specifically?
	Because it is interesting.
	I'm not trying to...
	Les absents ont toujours tort.
	I asked you, Joe, what I've been wrong on.
	I can't really think of anything you've been wrong.
	Dude, when I say that someone is an idiot, I can pick the most obvious thing that they've said that was wrong.
	Just give me...
	Anyone who I've called a dumbass, I will know.
	Off the bat, tell me the stupidest thing they ever did.
	Adam Kinzinger, ghost of Keeve, still has it up.
	Adam Kinzinger sobbing with that.
	I mean, I can give you the concrete examples.
	Elizabeth Warren, easy.
	Deborah Holland, easy.
	When someone says, Viva, when she said that, surely there has to be the most monumentally wrong thing that I've ever said that someone can immediately reflexively pull up.
	I remember the ones that I've been wrong on.
	Still kick myself in the butt.
	That guy, Max Nordo.
	And I got back.
	Ooh, something went wrong.
	Refresh the page.
	What the hell?
	What'd you do, Viva?
	That just happened there.
	I mentioned the guy's name and it gets you to...
	Are we...
	Yeah, you're good.
	You're back on.
	Max Nordo.
	I remember when I apologized publicly and then privately and then the jackass leaks are my private apology, which was a little bit corny.
	I could approve of that.
	I remember when I was flat out wrong.
	I've been wrong about a few things.
	The store I once included in my vlog about Kinder Eggs...
	An article from the CBC talking about an underground smuggling of kinder eggs across the border, because in America, you don't get the ones with the little toy in it for choking hazards.
	It was an article on the CBC that was satire that was not clearly indicated.
	I felt stupid about that, but that's inconsequential.
	I wrongly accused that guy, Max Nordo, of having altered an email because he...
	Showed a screen grab of an email, claimed it was Robert Barnes that tweeted it.
	I said, that doesn't sound like something Barnes would say.
	And so I went back and searched and couldn't find it.
	Then I found a tweet verbatim from that guy himself, which predated him attributing it to Barnes.
	And then I said, oh, he tweeted it and the tweet didn't get enough traction.
	So he put Barnes logo on it so that it wasn't anything offensive.
	It was just something about politics where it was like sort of counterintuitive to what you think Barnes would have thought politically.
	And it turned out he had an archived link.
	And then people like Viva, the archived link was fake and falsified.
	It's like, I can't verify that.
	I accuse him of something.
	It's wrong.
	I apologize publicly.
	And then I apologize privately.
	Barry Weiss was the other one.
	Where I didn't say anything wrong, factually incorrect, or anything.
	My tweet pulling what she had said a few years ago was being misunderstood as something that she said contemporaneously.
	And then she was taking a lot of shit on the internet.
	And I was like, I wasn't trying to say that she said this recently.
	I was just illustrating this is how the liberal brain works.
	And then I apologized also privately.
	I hope she forgave me.
	What other ones?
	A couple of good ones.
	Anyhow, that's it.
	I think the audience is a very mixed reaction.
	You have half of them saying that you are a little too emotional sometimes or overly passionate.
	They need to give examples.
	You're very honest and balanced.
	If anybody does not give an example of when I was either wrong...
	That's what I love when people accuse me of lying.
	Or overly emotional.
	Give me one where I'm overly emotional.
	Like a link.
	Post a link.
	Whoever said that I've been wrong.
	Give me the link where I've been wrong.
	Who the fuck gives a shit, says Matt.
	You're right.
	Let's move on.
	What else do we have back here?
	Do we take the rest of this to the locals after party?
	I think we will.
	Because I got to pee.
	And I'd like to get an energy drink before we do this.
	That was good.
	Hold on, but I actually don't want to...
	Give it a few seconds here, people.
	Viva, you are wrong when you say that if Pierre Poiliev adopted MAGA-like policies that that would get him elected in Canada.
	See, I want to bring this up.
	I'm not putting you on blast, Europa.
	I want to highlight something to you.
	One cannot be wrong with what they suggest would have been a better strategy precisely because we will never know what would have happened in the alternate universe, which is why predictions...
	Can be bad predictions, but they can't be wrong predictions until the event occurs that makes the prediction wrong, but in which case a prediction is necessarily always potentially wrong, because otherwise it's a guarantee.
	Nobody guarantees with predictions.
	So you say that I'm wrong because I'm wrong because I suggested he should have adopted a different strategy.
	We'll never know if I was wrong or right, but one thing is for certain, what he's doing now isn't working.
	In the now.
	Period.
	And by the way, I never said he had to adopt MAGA-like policies.
	What I did say is he didn't have to pick a fight with MAGA or Trump.
	Now, I happen to think it would probably be better for him to be more populist, but I didn't say that he should adopt MAGA-like policies in Canada.
	I simply said strategically he needed not pick the fight with Trump.
	I don't think that's going to help him among his base.
	I don't think that's going to help among fence-seating conservatives.
	And it's quite clearly not paying off in the short term.
	Okay, so there we can distinguish that.
	Only 150,000 people voted for Carney, says Tina Rowena.
	Yeah, we don't know.
	I don't think that we know where they were.
	And remember when I had Ruby Dahl on?
	And she said, like, we don't even know who's voting for him.
	We don't know who's donating to his campaign.
	150,000.
	And apparently they could have been 14 years and older.
	As registered liberals.
	Remember that video Viva did when his grandmother died?
	Was it the one when I got her a...
	I don't remember doing a video when my grandmother died, but I remember getting her a cane that was made out of a bull penis.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Boxing cat?
	There's been glitching, actually, now that all the numbers are at zero.
	Oh, no, that's because we're still at...
	No, we're still on...
	We're still live on Rumble.
	Studio's glitching out a little bit.
	Let me see what else we got here.
	Serenity, people.
	It's very difficult to find that these days.
	How is your recommended strategy working for Maxime B? Well, first of all, also unfair comparison, Europa, because Maxime Bernier is a new party with two elections.
	How's it working for the Greens?
	I mean, how's progressivism working for the Greens or liberalism working for the Greens?
	You're talking about smaller parties, and the People's Party has been around for two federal elections.
	And I can tell you, having lived through my run, it's a fucking corrupt system.
	If you don't get CBC coverage, you don't exist in Canada.
	And by the way, I've criticized Maxime for being so vocal about positions which are going to hurt him politically.
	But it's true, at least he's principled.
	But his failure to secure a seat in Parliament, I don't think has to do with principles.
	It has to do with the corruption in Canada, the political system by its nature.
	A new political party will take...
	Multiple election cycles to get noticed and to make seats.
	But I do think that the Pierre Poiliev would be better off stealing some of the 600,000 votes that he's not getting from the PPC, which he's not only not going to get, he's going to push more people to vote PPC and push more people to vote Liberal because they stand for nothing.
	Is Barnes still in Soviet Seattle?
	Okay, thank you.
	So I don't have any direct update from Barnes.
	Except a tweet that he posted yesterday, which I've got in the backdrop here.
	We're going to end on this and then bring the party on over to VivaBangeLive.com.
	Liberals.
	Hold on.
	Where was it?
	Tennessee.
	Was it this?
	Tennessee Holler?
	No.
	The Pleb?
	Dude, where's the one that Barnes said?
	Let me get it.
	He tweeted out earlier today.
	He's not been having a good time.
	In Seattle.
	There's Sleepless in Seattle and then there's Locked Up in Seattle.
	He has not been locked up yet.
	Yet, being the operative word, he needs to get the F out of Dodge as fast as he possibly can.
	Encrypt us.
	I posted something in response to...
	This is it right here.
	Here, let me just get this.
	Today in Seattle is how he started it.
	A judge said there's no constitution.
	In this, don't mention Constitution.
	I think they threatened to lock him up for it.
	Here.
	This is how it's going in Seattle, peeps.
	We'll get the update on Sunday at the show.
	Today in Seattle, today in court in Seattle, the judge prohibited me from mentioning the Constitution with a capital C biatches, that's what it takes, in a criminal case where the defense was the Constitution.
	Jury convicted, now to appeal, the message is out.
	Get out!
	Well, I guess that's the...
	I can just feel how upset Barnes is.
	I don't remember if the discussion was private or public.
	Encrypt us.
	Did Barnes make his prediction for acquittal public?
	Do you remember?
	And not to my knowledge.
	Whatever.
	He was more optimistic than I was.
	And I said, he's getting...
	And this is where you don't get to say I was right in my prediction.
	You just get to say my prediction came true.
	There was never a question that this guy was going to get...
	Effing lynched in Seattle.
	They're going to call it lynched in Seattle.
	That's what the next movie is going to have to be called.
	I think the goal here is Barnes to bring this to the Supreme Court eventually and get these people completely, let's say, removed from the bench for their indiscretions.
	Not to be blackpilled.
	It's not going to happen.
	By the time it gets to the Supreme Court...
	No one's going to remember it, and no one's going to care about it.
	I remember when we were saying, let's wait for Nuremberg 2.0.
	Five years later, people don't even want to talk about how they were hoodwinked out of their life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and the health of their children.
	People are going to forget about it.
	First of all, not enough people are paying attention to it now, despite our best efforts.
	Five years from now, when it gets to the Supreme Court, even if he wins, no one's going to give a sweet bugger all.
	No one's going to remember, and nothing's going to happen.
	Get the fuck out.
	That's the...
	That's the conclusion.
	Dexter Taylor is sitting, rotting away for a decade now because of the communism in New York.
	And it's true.
	Communists know no boundaries, but at least strategically retreat to where you can fight more effectively from.
	Which is, if I'm saying it from a self-serving perspective, which is what I've basically decided to do at this point in my life.
	Okay, let's do this.
	I'm going to get a bit of a video here.
	I'll play the rest of the Doug Ford as everyone matriculates over to VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
	Let me see if there's any tip questions that I missed there that we should take while we have the big crowd here.
	You need to flex your vocab.
	Imbecile, moron, childish, immature, etc.
	I know you have the smart Cisro Cortez.
	Well, no, but that's oddly enough how I ended up at Retarded.
	I said like, all right, I've been calling people mentally challenged, mentally unhinged, mentally deficient.
	You call people idiot.
	Which is a clinical term on par with retarded.
	You call people morons, which is a clinical term on par with retarded.
	Imbecile is a clinical term.
	These referred to people with IQs below a certain threshold.
	I was like, okay, why is it more polite to call someone an imbecile than a retard?
	It's not.
	We've thoroughly taken the word retarded back.
	The other thing is I do read my tweets more like stand-up than like...
	Frothing at the mouth, mentally unhinged people wielding weapons.
	Maybe that's how I see myself, but maybe other people see me as the mentally unhinged individual wielding a machete on the corner of the street.
	Oh, here we go.
	We got the flashback.
	I have to make sure that this is not claimed by any licensing agency.
	Otherwise, the entire video gets claimed.
	Let me go get that from our locals.
	We'll have something to watch that will actually be...
	Fun.
	While I go...
	Where did it go?
	Where did the link go?
	Oh, it's on...
	Was it on...
	It was on...
	Here it is.
	Okay, it's on Rumble.
	Oh, live from Ottawa.
	Oh, come on.
	Okay, that's an Ottawa protest.
	Oh, by the way, before you go, make sure that you like, share, subscribe, and do all those things.
	Keep up the good work, Viva, says Mike at Man Overboard.
	Thank you very much.
	Viva La Bam.
	Okay, so let's watch this as you're going to come over or not come over tomorrow.
	We're going to be live.
	There is no Unusual Suspects today.
	So...
	I get to do a car vlog.
	Let's go back and finish up the video while I go do what it is that you know I do after an hour and a half of streaming.
	Peeps, Rumble, thank you all for being here.
	Get a book.
	VivaFry.
	Well, go to VivaFry.com for merch, but go to Louis the Lobster.
	Hold on, I'm going to give you all the links before we go.
	Louis the Lobster returns to the sea.
	A children's book by the frothing-at-the-mouth raging lunatic who drops more F-bombs.
	That is appropriate on social media.
	Here, link.
	Link to a book.
	Go get one.
	No one has ever regretted getting a kid's book.
	Someone said low resolution is the best insult.
	I said politically retarded.
	No, political retardant and intellectual retardant.
	Not retarded.
	A retardant is something that slows the progress of fire, for example.
	Fire retardants.
	People are intellectual retardants.
	With that said, Rumble, thank you all for being here.
	Enjoy this while I... Press play and mosey on over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Well, just a little while ago, I had an opportunity to speak.
	So we're going to go down there and we're going to go down there with confidence.
	We're going to go down there with strength.
	And again, hopefully we can move this forward.
	I feel as a province, and I only speak for the province of Ontario, I want to reaffirm I do not speak for any other premiers.
	Everyone's very patriotic, and we have the best premiers I've ever seen.
	But we're going to be talking about the USMCA moving forward.
	The worst thing that could happen is wait and let this drag out until April 2nd.
	So we're going to move forward and have a very good conversation with Secretary Lutnick and the whole trade team, as he said, and hopefully we can move this forward because it doesn't benefit anyone, as I told them, no matter if it's the auto sector or any other sector here in Canada and specifically Ontario.
	And all I mention...
	Assembly lines will shut down in the U.S. and Canada.
	The stock market is tumbling over $4 trillion.
	Consumer confidence has went down.
	I said it's absolute chaos out there right now.
	We need to move forward jointly.
	I emphasized how Canadians love Americans, and I know Americans love Canadians, but going back and forth with each other, it just hurts both.
	Uh-oh, what'd you do?
	Thank you.
	Let me update the stream.
	Turn this off.
	How do I update?
	Are we only on...
	Okay, so locals?
	You're still live on Rumble.
	Yeah, I'm going to manually disconnect it.
	Alright, y'all got the picture.
	Come on over to Rumble.
	Jeez, what was that loud noise?
	That was the Rebel News logo.
	Alright, ending it on Rumble, people.
	Enjoy the afternoon.
	Nincompoop says, fart whiff.
	Hey, Viva, if you allow me to make a poor analogy.
	Okay, I got that one.
	Everybody, rumble, ending it.
	After party.
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
	End live stream now.
	It won't let me update it in the locals thing.
	All right, people.
	Who got the good picture in here?
	Lefson?
	Oh, so guys, you want to see what I saw this morning?
	Hold on.
	Oh, yeah.

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