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Jan. 27, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

02:01:26

J.D. Vance DESTROYS Propagandist Media - AGAIN! Canada Goes Full Tyranny - AGAIN! & MORE!

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	Kirk Garland's Department of Justice treat you like a gang member, you should be pardoned.
	If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn't be pardoned.
	Did you counsel the president against these blanket pardons for 1,500 people, including those who committed violence?
	Margaret, I noticed that you cut off the thing that I said immediately after that.
	The cool quote is that, of course, there are gray areas.
	And here's the nature of the gray area.
	Merrick Garland's Department of Justice denied constitutional protections in the prosecutions.
	There were double standards in how sentences were applied to the J6 protesters versus other groups.
	What the president said consistently on the campaign is that he was going to look at a case-by-case basis, and that's exactly what we did.
	We looked at 1,600 cases, and the thing that came out of it, Margaret, is that there was a...
	Massive denial of due process of liberty, and a lot of people were denied their constitutional rights.
	The president believes that, I believe that, and I think he made the right decision.
	Not a lot of them.
	Each and every single one of them, which is why each and every single one of them gets a pardon.
	What's amazing is that you watched this interview, and I watched, I think I watched all of it, 21 minutes of pure torture.
	Margaret is an idiot.
	Margaret is a bigot.
	Margaret is what they refer to as the stereotypical liberal white woman that people have grown to detest.
	And I'm saying that in the tropian sense.
	She is the Karen of the media world.
	She's the Karen of politics.
	And we might have to now substitute out the Karen name for the Margaret.
	Frankly, Margaret, I don't give a damn if you say that these If illegals or become legals were radicalized after they were vetted and brought to America, I don't give a damn.
	But I gotta think, every question that came out of her mouth was followed up by an argument, was followed up by her before she went into the next question, getting the last word of basically trying to get J.D. Vance to say what he didn't say by summarizing, so you're saying this.
	Okay, moving on.
	It was journalistic retardation.
	We've got political retardation.
	We've got...
	What are the other forms of retardation that are suffered by the capital L left?
	And JD is just too smart for this crap.
	He's just too eloquent for this crap.
	Oh, you said blanket.
	It's a pardon blanket.
	No, it was issued by way of a pardon blanket or a proclamation.
	But it wasn't a pardon blanket just because he didn't go out and sign one pardon after another because there were too damn many, Margaret.
	Because you locked up too damn many Jan 6 patriots to make Donald Trump get carpal tunnel syndrome, signing 1,600 individual parties, although I think he might have actually still had to sign each pardon individually.
	You said you weren't going to go blanket pardon, and then he signed a proclamation pardoning all, even the violent ones, and she just didn't understand it.
	Do you condone violence on a police officer?
	Unless it's bona fide self-defense?
	Hell no!
	Will we ever know if it was bona fide self-defense?
	Hell no!
	Because they were denied constitutional due process, Margaret, you airhead buffoon.
	And it's not just asking leading questions, loaded questions, arguing with them, unfairly, inaccurately summarizing what he didn't say leading into your next question, like the gotcha.
	Oh, so that's it now.
	Moving on.
	She's been, like, following the Hirono tactic.
	She's been following the Duckworth tactic.
	Oh, and you don't get the answer you want.
	Just summarize it that way anyhow and move on.
	I'm sorry, I've got my five minutes.
	I'd like to go.
	JD is smart.
	He thinks on his feet.
	He's eloquent, which is the polar opposite of mainstream media, legacy media propagandist hacks like Margaret.
	I just tweeted out, be a JD Vance.
	Don't be a Margaret.
	And by the way, if it shows nothing else, it shows that JD listens to the people.
	He's got his ear to the grindstone or ear to the ground and he knows what the people are saying.
	He knows what the people want.
	He knows what the people expect.
	From his elected officials.
	And he's able to fine-tune his arguments, fine-tune his presentation, and understand what's at issue.
	But when I call Margaret, the Karen of politics, a bigot and a racist, I need you to understand this.
	I have to suffer through this crap so that you don't have to.
	Look at her face.
	When you hear what she says here, you're going to understand what the face of bigotry looks like.
	What the face of racism looks like.
	A privileged, white, liberal, capital D Democrat with their pet projects who think that other people are just too damn dumb to take care of themselves.
	Karen Margaret over here knows what the southern states, what those states need.
	They need the big federal brother to help them because they're too stupid and poor to do it.
	Listen to this.
	He said he may reform or eliminate FEMA.
	Instead of sending emergency responders, he may start to send a percentage of money to states to take care of themselves.
	God forbid!
	God forbid, Karen!
	What do you have to say about that?
	FEMA has specialized expertise that some of these states just don't have in their arsenal.
	And how old are states who are lower-income states?
	The Mississippis, the Kentuckys, the Alabamas.
	Be able to do this for themselves.
	How will those poor, stupid redneck, Mississippi, Alabama, how will they ever be able to take care of themselves without the big federal brother coming in and doing what's best for them?
	How on earth will they ever be able to take care of themselves?
	They need the expertise of FEMA, who we now know goes in there and says, oh, Trump supporters, you get to the back of the line.
	It's the face of bigotry, racism, and what makes progressives capital P progressive.
	You are too stupid and poor to know how to deal with your own existence.
	We must do it for you.
	And we're going to come in, and you're still living in tents in some places in North Carolina.
	We will avoid your house if it's got a Trump banner on the front of it.
	East Palestine?
	Hell, we won't even go there because it's too dangerous.
	We've got expertise.
	They've got expertise in money laundering.
	They've got expertise in pilfering taxpayer dollars to go fund illegal immigrants.
	Crises caused by their immigration policy and then lie to your face and say, no, no, we're not low on cash because we've been financing illegal immigration.
	Oh, yeah, but the illegal immigrant crisis has created a federal emergency requiring FEMA funds.
	Oh, they've got expertise already.
	They've got expertise in screwing things up and stealing your money.
	How are those?
	Just listen to it one more time.
	Listen to this.
	And how will states who are...
	Our lower-income states, the Mississippis, the Kentuckys, the Alabamas, be able to do this for themselves without federal help.
	Appreciate it.
	That is the face of bigotry.
	It comes with a smile.
	Holy hell, is that terrible.
	And there's more to it, but that's all I think we need to focus on today.
	Imagine, it's like Joe Biden and the Democrats, capital D Democrats, looking at...
	The African-American population of America and saying, I know you guys think that you like smoking menthol cigarettes, but we're going to go ahead and ban them because they're bad for you.
	And we know that they're statistically overrepresented, consumed by the black Americans.
	And we know what's best for you.
	So we're going to go make them illegal because you don't get to choose what you put in your...
	You want to smoke Marlboros?
	Well, they know how to inhale smoke properly.
	You don't get to make that choice.
	Pet Projects.
	Soft bigotry of low expectations.
	And it's not just racially based either.
	This is like culture.
	Oh, the Kentuckys.
	She put the emphasis on the Kentuckys.
	Those people.
	How the hell can they take care of themselves without Joe Biden's FEMA?
	Oh my goodness.
	Defund FEMA.
	And defund Margaret.
	Be a JD.
	Don't be a Margaret.
	That interview was crap.
	All right.
	Now, I was going to say this.
	Before we get into today's show, there's a couple of last minute guests coming in.
	You may remember Jeff Rath.
	From previous shows, because we're going to go to Canada now.
	These were two issues that are in the news in Canada, in the sense that not because they're trending news, but because they're time-sensitive issues.
	In Canada, we have had something of an Alberta report on the COVID response, very much akin to the select subcommittees investigation between the COVID response that I covered a couple weeks ago.
	Spoiler alert, the Alberta summary very much mirrors the findings out of the US in that...
	The federal government and the provincial governments screwed everything up.
	Their expertise killed people.
	And there's a lawyer that I had on a while back talking about this.
	He was involved in some of the lawsuits.
	Going to bring him back on.
	At 1.15, give or take, I'm going to say it as a joke almost, but the ostrich lady out of British Columbia, the ostrich farmers who are now being compelled by the...
	I think I'm fairly certain it's the...
	I want to say federal government, but they're being compelled by the government to cull their ostriches because of...
	Bird flu, the avian flu, the H5N1.
	I happen to have a bit of an affinity for ostriches.
	I like them.
	They're delicious.
	I do eat ostrich.
	I've eaten the meat, the eggs.
	They're delicious.
	One of my most viral videos was an ostrich egg omelet.
	We're talking about what's going on in British Columbia as well.
	And then Ginger Ninja from our locals community who is up to good and building houses for veterans.
	We're going to talk about his project in the third part of the show.
	So we're talking Canada.
	We've covered JD.
	And I've got our guest waiting in the backdrop.
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	All right, now.
	Getting to the Canadian stuff.
	We're going to take a break from the American stuff.
	The stuff that you need to know that you probably don't even know you need to know, but you're going to know it anyhow.
	And by the way, stay tuned this week.
	I believe I'm going to get an interview with Enrique Tarrio.
	I'm going to be live streaming the RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard confirmation hearings Wednesday and Thursday, so it's going to be amazing.
	Jeffrey Rath is coming in, although now I notice his name is Jeffrey Rath.
	I don't know if he typo'd his own name.
	Jeff, I'm bringing you in.
	Jeff is a lawyer.
	He's going to introduce himself working out of, I want to say, Alberta.
	Jeff, satisfy my neuroses and tilt your camera down.
	Oh. Is it on your...
	There you go.
	Okay. That's a problem.
	Is that better?
	We'll leave it broad.
	Jeff, tell people who you are.
	They don't know who you are.
	I'm a Canadian constitutional lawyer.
	I've spent over 33 years doing nothing but suing incompetent governments in Canada for various constitutional violations of the rights of Canadian citizens, including the rights of Canadian Indigenous people.
	I got very involved through COVID, of course, with all of the ridiculous human rights violations that were being perpetrated under the name of public health.
	I'm the only lawyer in Canada.
	We've succeeded in having every single COVID order issued throughout the pandemic in Alberta declared illegal or ultra-virus the Public Health Act of Alberta, which means that every single lockdown, every business that was destroyed, every person that was harmed by all of these stupid orders now has a cause of action against the government of Alberta, which we're pursuing through a class action lawsuit in the province of Alberta.
	We also have a class action that we're seeking, and that action's been certified.
	And the judge in certifying that action found that what the government did amounted to a plausible misfeasance in public office, and that's the basis upon which the action was certified.
	We're now also proceeding with a class action lawsuit against the government of Alberta and the government of Canada for a conspiracy to assault every citizen of Alberta, you know, because we're suing in Alberta, but really it's every citizen in Canada, on the basis that...
	These so-called chief medical officers of health, including Theresa Tam, including Dina Hinshaw, would get together in weekly meetings and conspire as to how they were going to keep information from Canadians in order to enforce all of their unlawful and unconscionable jab mandates.
	So what's really exciting is last week...
	There's a group headed up by Gary Davidson.
	Jay Bhattacharya, interestingly, was part of the group and is a co-author of the report.
	Came out with a task force, Alberta COVID-19 pandemic response task force final report that details every corrupt and crazy thing that the government of Alberta did from start to finish with regard to COVID in the context of the lockdowns, vaccines, denial of therapeutics and so on.
	So if I may stop you there, we're looking at the report.
	This is the final report, Alberta's COVID-19 pandemic response.
	The federal government in the States just came out with a very similar report from the select subcommittee on the COVID preparedness response, whatever it was.
	Virtually identical in terms of conclusions.
	Just reiterate or repeat who headed this committee up?
	Dr. Gary Davidson, who's a very well-respected emergency room doctor, who's the head of emergency medicine for the city of Red Deer in Alberta, and a panel of other cross-disciplinary experts in public health and other immunology, virology, bacteriology, etc., who are all part of this committee.
	Jay Bhattacharya, to my knowledge, was involved in writing and reviewing the report.
	And Jay's comment was that this is one of the greatest reports of this nature that he's ever read, including a lot of the great work that's come out of the United States.
	Because what it does is it provides a very comprehensive blueprint as to how all of us were completely misled and abused by our governments from start to finish, including detailing at length.
	The collusion of the colleges of physicians and surgeons in the provinces of Canada and the province of Alberta corruptly telling doctors what it was that they could or couldn't prescribe during COVID.
	I know, as a matter of fact, because I represent some of these doctors that are being persecuted by the college, to this day, the college is going after people for even discussing ivermectin with patients as an alternative therapy.
	Right? So, you know, all of the, you know, all of the bull, you know, excuse my language, all the BS continues, you know, all the BS continues.
	And I want people to, you know, to download this report, to read this report, and to internalize how evil what these people were doing was.
	And I'm going to give you a very specific example.
	And I mean, those of us, you know, Viva, that have been living in the trenches and fighting the COVID wars for the last five years.
	You know, know all of this stuff, and it's not news to us.
	But I think for a lot of citizens of Alberta and citizens of North America to know that Pfizer's own data, and I'm going to read a quote.
	It's from a report that was done by Peter Corey in August of 2022.
	So this even goes back several years now.
	But I'm quoting directly from the report.
	It's entitled, Pregnant Women in Pfizer Randomized Control Tests, right?
	So this is quoting...
	In August of 2022, Dr. Pierre Corey, MD, MPA, published his analysis of the Pfizer trial data concerning pregnant women.
	Dr. Corey found, and this is a quote from Dr. Corey, according to the Pfizer cumulative analysis of post-authorization adverse events, 270 pregnancies were reported during the vaccine trial.
	Of these, 238 had no outcome attached, so they buried the charts.
	No explanation in the document for the lack of reporting.
	Did they lose the charts?
	The remaining 32 had the following results.
	This is what I want people to pay attention to.
	So out of the 32 pregnant women that Pfizer admitted got the drug during the trial, 23 had spontaneous abortions.
	Two spontaneous abortions.
	With intrauterine death.
	Two premature births with neonatal death.
	One spontaneous abortion with neonatal death.
	And only one normal outcome out of 32 pregnancies where the Pfizer jab was administered.
	If I may, first of all, I'm not apologizing for the YouTube overlords at all.
	Fuck them.
	I'm going to read this straight out of the report so that nobody accuses anybody of misrepresenting what it says.
	In August 2022, Dr. Pierre Corey published his analysis of the Pfizer trial data concerning pregnant women.
	Dr. Corey found that, quote, according to the Pfizer, quote, cumulative analysis of post-authorization adverse events report, section 5.3.6 on page 12, 270...
	270 pregnancies were reported during the trial.
	Of these, 238 had no outcome.
	Okay, attached to them.
	No explanation of the document or lack of reporting.
	Nothing happened.
	Nothing happened.
	Nothing to report.
	Did they lose the chart?
	No, no.
	What they mean by that, Viva, is that there was no reporting because they buried the charts.
	They lost the chart.
	So we don't know what the outcome is what.
	Well, I know.
	There's no outcome.
	No, I'm only trying to steel man what the...
	Steel man what someone might say.
	Okay, that proves nothing.
	What does prove something is this.
	Did they lose the chart?
	The remaining 32. This is 32 out of 270.
	So my math is not really good, but that's 15%.
	Did they lose the chart?
	The remaining 32 had the following results.
	23 spontaneous abortions, 2 spontaneous abortions with intrauterine death, 2 premature births with neonatal deaths, 1 spontaneous abortion with neonatal death, 1 normal outcome.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	If they're reporting a normal outcome here, they should have reported a normal outcome for the other 200 and...
	Some odd.
	And now, also, because you've got to steal men, causation, correlation does not equal causation.
	It might have just happened that this was a batch of pregnant women, 15 plus percent of which, I don't know what the average spontaneous abortion is.
	The average rate was almost 97% when you do the math, 31 over 32. So what's shocking, but let me get to the point of this.
	What's shocking about this is that there was, and correlation, I agree with you, but does not equal causation.
	That's the slogan they like to throw out all the time.
	However, what I always say is that correlation in the context of vaccine injuries demands investigation.
	And not only was there no investigation of data which seemed to indicate an approximately 97% spontaneous abortion rate.
	With regard to these vaccines, but women in Alberta, and I'm sure it was the same as everywhere else in North America, were repeatedly told that the vaccines were safe and effective for pregnant women.
	Pregnant women should get the vaccines.
	I know doctors in doctor's offices that said through the vaccine period, they saw this massive spike in miscarriages, spontaneous abortions, etc., etc.
	Nobody was reporting on it.
	But instead of actually investigating things and saying, wait a minute, you know, the initial Pfizer data causes us some real concerns.
	It's indicating that approximately 97% of women who got the shot spontaneously aborted their fetuses.
	So at that point, you know, is that a vaccine or is that a drug better than RU85?
	Like, just use it as a morning after pill.
	If that's the abortion rate that they're getting with that drug, hell, women in the United States didn't need to be afraid of the Dodds decision.
	All they needed to do was take the Pfizer shot.
	And this is in the government report, so you can call it whatever you want in terms of a conservative government in Alberta.
	This is following years of investigation with doctors, one of whom might be the head of...
	Oh, geez.
	Is it NIH in America?
	It's NIH.
	National Institutes of Health.
	Jay Bhattataria.
	This is the government's report, and these are the findings.
	Now, oddly enough, a lot of these findings mirror closely the findings of the U.S. subselect committee, whatever the report that I covered.
	Well, because they're all based on Pfizer's own data.
	That's why they mirror it.
	The data is the data, right?
	And then the report goes on to talk about myocarditis in children.
	And the report, again, it cites a Lancet study that was done that indicates that the children that they followed in this Lancet study, over 50% of them had severe cardiac abnormalities, right?
	And then of the ones that demonstrated cardiac abnormalities, fully 32% of them...
	Couldn't return to normal physical activity levels after the shots.
	And 90 days after getting the shots, as many as 26% of them were still on cardiac drugs to deal with their hearts.
	And again, I've been talking to physicians in Alberta and even small GP practices are seeing this huge upspike in cardiac events in children.
	And, you know, what we're actually looking at and what we're thinking in Alberta is that we have as many as 2,000 kids in this province that are literally walking cardiac cripples, that, you know, whose lives are going to be shortened, who may not live another five or ten years because of these vaccines, which, and again, you and I, I think, have discussed this, you know, previously, when you look at it, I mean, that is absolutely shocking.
	And, of course...
	Why we're out beating the drum and why we're so concerned about this report, even though this report is out, the Alberta government has yet to ban vaccines in children when all of the evidence indicates that the vaccines are far more harmful and far more dangerous for children than actually contracting COVID itself.
	And I think you and I have discussed that previously.
	There's something called Table 14 to the Pfizer EUA that indicated that Pfizer notionally Suggested that one child per million was going to die from COVID, right?
	But that Pfizer admitted that they were going to put 34 children per million into ICU.
	Well, they called it mild myocarditis.
	No, no, no.
	If you're in the ICU on a vent, that's not mild myocarditis.
	And when children are put on vents in ICU, you know, a fairly...
	Significant percentage of them die without coming out of ICU.
	It could be as much as, you know, 10, 15, 20%, you know, depending on the severity of what we're talking about.
	So then that same, just let me finish this point, because it's really important.
	You get to the end of the table, and then Pfizer posits how many deaths will occur from the vaccine.
	Well, the only answer they could put, given that there's only one death per million from COVID...
	The only answer they could put in order to get the vaccine approved was zero.
	Because if they put one, as in one child will die from the vaccine, one would die from COVID, it would all balance each other out and there would be no need for the vaccine.
	And if they admitted the truth, which is if you put 34 children with myocarditis severe enough that they need to be on a ventilator in a hospital, right?
	As many as 10 of those children, you know, are not coming out of hospital and they're going to die, right?
	So if they actually put, you know, even two children were going to die in ICU from the COVID injections, they wouldn't have been able to get the approval because how can you approve a vaccine that kills twice as many children as the disease that it's meant to vaccinate against?
	Right? So this whole thing, the vaccines for children, I'm very concerned that this has just been a massive fraud from start to finish where Pfizer knowingly fudged its own data by positing zero deaths from the vaccines when they knew full well that the numbers were going to be much higher than that.
	And what we're seeing now in Alberta with all of these children with severe myocarditis post-vaccine that are literally walking wounded.
	I mean, you know, it really summarizes what Peter McCullough has been saying about these vaccines being cardiotoxic, right?
	Well, we have all of these kids with poisoned hearts running around Alberta.
	And I'll just finish this point.
	Ask yourself how many parents would have consented to their children getting the shot.
	If they were told, oh, by the way, this drug's experimental.
	We don't know what the real impact is going to be on kids.
	Kids are almost zero risk from dying from COVID.
	And there's a really good possibility that the vaccines are going to kill far more children than COVID.
	What parent in their right mind would give the kid the shot?
	None. None.
	So the simple fact of the matter is all of this information is being continually buried by our public health officials.
	Since this report has come out, and keep in mind, it's been floating around government desks probably since August.
	I think Daniel Smith referred to the work and the report being in draft form as early as August.
	Our Chief Medical Officer of Health hasn't come out and advised pregnant women not to get the shot because it's still available.
	They haven't advised parents not to give the shot to their children because it's still available for children.
	You know, so, you know, my question is, I mean, does the Chief Medical Officer of Health of Alberta hate babies and hate children?
	Because why else wouldn't you be putting out a warning telling people not to give this drug to kids and not to give it to pregnant women?
	Yeah, I mean, just to steal, man, we lived through this in real time.
	Sorry. That was an awesome moment.
	Just to steal, man, the, you know, what they said in real time.
	Oh, it's mild, transient myocarditis, which many doctors have come and said that's a contradiction in terms.
	Then they had subclinical myocarditis, which some people were arguing many people didn't even know that they got because it was subclinical, but still something that's fundamentally bad and irreparably scars the heart.
	Then they were saying, well, don't worry, because you get myocarditis from an infection as well.
	And it's worse myocarditis you get from an infection than from the risk of the jab.
	Therefore the risk benefit has been analyzed by your pharma funded expert, go ahead and No, but again, that's a far cry from safe and effective.
	And it's deliberately distorting information that was being given to parents with regard to the cost-benefit of these shots.
	They weren't told all of that nicety, nuanced, whatever it is.
	They were told that if their kids got the shot, it was 88 or however what percentage effective.
	They either weren't going to get COVID or weren't going to be able to spread COVID.
	They weren't going to kill grandma.
	All of that nonsense.
	And we know, and it's even detailed in this report, that The vaccines were never warranted by the drug companies to stop transmission.
	It was never warranted by any of the companies to prevent people from getting the disease.
	Because, I mean, how many people do we know, all of us know, that had the COVID shots that had COVID four or five times?
	You know, I know dozens of them, you know, that were all shot and boosted and whatever, and every time a new wave of COVID came out, they seemed to be the first ones to get it because of their weakened immune systems.
	The other thing is, and again, these become somewhat apocryphal stories, but everybody knows these stories.
	I was golfing this summer, and one of the young women that works at our golf club, who is a collegiate-level hockey player, was telling me that no fewer than three women on her college hockey team have been told they can no longer participate in college sports because their hearts have been damaged so badly with myocarditis.
	Let me substantiate what we're saying here.
	I remember this was for the Slovenian supply agreement or the contract, and they had similar provisions in the South African one, they had similar provisions in the Canadian one.
	The participating member state acknowledges that the vaccine, capital V vaccine, and materials related to the vaccine and their components and constituents materials are being rapidly developed due to the emergency circumstances of the COVID-19 pandemic and will continue to be studied.
	after provision of the vaccine to participating member states under the, what is this, production agreement.
	The participating member state further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects This was in all of the agreements that they signed with participating states at the time.
	And in terms of what's known now, we now know that...
	These drugs are exactly what McCullough said they were.
	They're a cardiotoxin.
	We have as many as 2,000 kids in Alberta that are literally walking wounded with damaged hearts from these vaccines, yet the government won't acknowledge the truth of its own science and its own report and immediately pull these dangerous drugs from the market.
	And I respect people that take a libertarian perspective.
	You know, say, oh, well, and this is kind of the government's attitude.
	It's all a matter of choice.
	And everybody in Alberta should be, you know, very proud of ourselves.
	You know, the number of people stupid enough to still get boosted is down to like 5%.
	So we basically 95% of all Albertans are anti-vaxxers now because we won't get any more boosters.
	But still, there's the risk that...
	There's still pregnant women that didn't get the memo on how dangerous these drugs are to their pregnancy.
	There's still parents out there that don't understand that if they're giving this drug to their kids, their kids are more likely to die from the shot than they are from COVID.
	Yeah, I'm going to read this out loud.
	This is from Grok.
	And what's amazing is I'm sort of flabbergasted because the last time I remember the state conceding the myocarditis risk, it was health official Kieran Moore out of Ontario saying, a very small risk, one in 5,000.
	Well, now, this is from Grok and it's pulling the studies.
	According to Post on X, there's mention that Alberta admitting to a dose to myocarditis rate of Moderna in boys aged 12 to 17, one in 2,000, suggesting a significant occurrence, but without specifying exact numbers.
	I want to speak...
	I want to speak to that because the report speaks to that as well.
	There's a Thai study that says the myocarditis rate is closer to 70%.
	There's that recent Lancet study that I was referring to that's in the report, says that it's close to 50%.
	But we have this one study in Ontario that says that it's, oh, it's only one child out of 5,700 and some odd that get myocarditis.
	And that's all detailed in this report as well.
	So what you have to ask yourself is, What is so different about the physiology of Canada or Canadians that makes Canadian children so much less susceptible to myocarditis than any other children anywhere else in the world?
	And the answer is there's no difference.
	Canada is a very representative.
	We're very representative of the global population.
	Canada has a lot of citizens from all over the world that live here.
	We're no different than anybody else.
	And what you have to conclude is, even if you see one in 2,000 or one in 5,000, is that you do not and cannot trust the Canadian data because the degree to which the Canadian medical profession and scientific community has been absolutely corrupted.
	Through COVID, you know, making some of the most asinine statements ever.
	Like, we had a Nobel Prize laureate show up as an expert witness in one of my cases who claimed, get this, that the pandemic would not end until absolutely everybody in the whole world had been vaccinated with the Pfizer shot.
	I mean, it's fake science.
	It's absolutely ridiculous.
	But you bribe a, you know, you pay a Nobel laureate to put his name to something that's patently ridiculous, and then they tender that as evidence to a judge, hoping that the judge is going to pick up on it and believe the Nobel Prize winner.
	Over Jay Bhattacharya or any of the other experts that we had lined up to provide evidence.
	The degree of corruption in Canada with regard to COVID data is beyond belief.
	A perfect example is the Fistman study that was done.
	There's a whole book written on it called The Fistman Fraud, where the government didn't like the fact that the numbers had flipped on COVID hospitalizations, and that's detailed in this report as well.
	There's more people hospitalized and dying, even on a proportional basis, after the COVID shot than people that are unvaccinated, which completely mirrors the Cleveland Clinic study, you know, again, that showed that the more vaccines and the more shots you get, the worse your health outcomes.
	It's confirming the fact that you don't have excess mortality among a demographic that is, you know, not the one in which you'd see excess mortality three years out of the pandemic.
	I just want to also highlight these conclusions from the report.
	This is a government report out of Alberta.
	Reliable evidence of harm following the COVID-19 vaccine trials were not designated to detect rare or long-term adverse effects, yada yada.
	Conclusions and recommendations.
	Immediately halt the use of all COVID-19 vaccines without full disclosure to patients regarding both safety and efficacy issues by their physician.
	End the use of COVID-19 vaccines for healthy children and teenagers, as other jurisdictions have done.
	See Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the UK.
	Further research to establish the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines is necessary before widespread use in adults and children.
	Establish a website, call-on center, yada, yada, yada.
	These are the findings of the Alberta government.
	That's absolutely right.
	And still, even within Alberta, I'm actually phoning legislators and I'm going to email the premier and everybody that will listen to me.
	I want the College of Physicians and Surgeons to make this report mandatory reading for every single so-called doctor in the province that was boosting vaccines and effectively acting as vaccine salesmen throughout the pandemic.
	Because it just demonstrates from one end to the other.
	How wrongheaded they were and how completely egregious it was for them to park their critical thinking at the door and just engaging in the ongoing groupthink, you know, in and around, you know, COVID policy.
	Also, the chapter on therapeutics and the suppression of therapeutics in Alberta, you know, is extremely worth reading.
	You know, like drugs like fluvoxamine, you know, which is an old SSRI that was found to be effective.
	When lunatics in a French asylum weren't getting sick and all the doctors and nurses were, and they figured out that this drug not only acted prophylactically, but if you gave it to people for early onset COVID, it would cure them.
	That drug has been suppressed.
	And it continues to be suppressed in Alberta.
	And this is even after the Ontario Science Table, which is the largest science table in the country, announced that they've determined through usage...
	That fluvoxamine reduces COVID mortality in patients by 90%, right?
	So basically, 9 out of 10 COVID deaths could have been prevented simply from following the paper that was written on the French use of fluvoxamine and giving fluvoxamine to people instead of the stupid vaccines.
	But of course, we know why they didn't do it.
	Fluvoxamine is off patent.
	Nobody's getting paid for it other than the generic drug companies who nobody likes, right?
	And even though it's a perfectly, you know, it's an effective treatment that would have reduced...
	COVID deaths by 90%.
	It was never made available and is still not encouraged to be used by the medical profession in Alberta.
	The college, because I was writing them saying, look, here's this announcement from Ontario.
	Where's the announcement for Alberta?
	Two and a half months later, we get this mealy mouth letter out saying, oh, well, fluvoxamine, we're aware, may have benefits.
	It can be used in the context of randomized controlled trials.
	Well, who the hell is going to pay for a randomized control trial for a drug that's off patent and nobody owns anymore?
	There's that economic aspect to it.
	There's also the astroturfing or persuasion or getting the world at large ready for the big tech medical, whatever you want to call it, techno-tyranny that's going to come with mass vaccination for every crisis that comes to be.
	Like they're talking about now with...
	Well, with other stuff, but with the avian flu, with the promises of the future of mRNA, this was not just the test run, but this was conditioning society to believing that science knows better how to deal with an immune system than Mother Nature.
	But if anybody wants to see a blueprint on terms of how all of this is done, this Alberta government report takes it from soup to nuts as to how they got away with it, including co-opting the regulators and having doctors at the College of Physicians and Surgeons, none of whom have practiced medicine for dozens of years.
	If they were doctors in private practice that hadn't practiced medicine for years, they wouldn't hold medical licenses.
	They'd be told to go rewrite their medical exams.
	But you've got doctors that wouldn't even qualify as doctors if they're in private practice, telling practicing physicians who are seeing patients in real time how to treat the illnesses that are in front of them on the basis of sound medical principles, which includes the provision of off-label drugs, which have been shown in other jurisdictions to ameliorate the symptoms or cure the disease in question.
	So, I mean, from one end to the other, this paper just documents how government, the regulators, the medical profession, etc., have all been co-opted from one end to the other, and people still don't want to tell people the truth.
	I mean, Canadians and Americans need to be really angry over all of this, and certainly if you're a pregnant woman who had a miscarriage after getting a vaccine...
	You know, you should be getting together with other moms and a mob with angry pitchforks and marching on the legislature.
	I mean, it's absolutely atrocious that this was done, and to this day, that the governments are not, you know, withdrawing these drugs and warning pregnant women not to use it.
	You know, I guess the only benefit...
	Go ahead.
	Oh, no, I was just going to ask you, are you on Twitter or X?
	No, I'm not.
	I have a substack that I write from time to time.
	It's called Conspiracy Facts with Jeffrey Rath.
	It was very tongue-in-cheek.
	I started early in COVID.
	And then anybody in Alberta who's been injured by one of these vaccines or if you've had a business that was shut down and you're bankrupted or lost money as a result of the COVID lockdowns, we have a website set up.
	It's rathandcompany.com.
	So R-A-T-H.
	A-N-D-C-O-M-P-A-N-Y dot com.
	And you'll see two tabs there, one for the class actions, one for the business class action, one for the vaccine class action.
	And just, you know, please provide us your contact information.
	Let us know how it is that you've suffered.
	We'll make sure that your data and your information is protected and brought to the attention of the courts, you know, when it's appropriate to do so.
	And then by signing...
	We'll be keeping you up to date with a monthly newsletter in terms of what's going on with both the business class action lawsuit and the vaccine class action lawsuit that we're pursuing.
	But needless to say, this government report that came out on Friday completely verifies everything that we've pled in our pleadings in terms of what went on from end to end with regard to the pandemic.
	The role of the colleges of physicians and surgeons, you know, literally telling doctors how to engage in malpractice throughout the pandemic, you know, contrary to all known medical ethics, that chapter in and of itself is a must-read for anybody interested in how the hell this happened to us.
	And it can never happen again.
	From your mouth to God's ears.
	Jeff? Let me see.
	So you need to start an X account, obviously, so we can share that.
	But I'll share the link.
	Send me the link to your sub stack afterwards and I'll blast that around as well.
	And which lawsuits do you have currently pending right now?
	Well, right now we're doing the business class action lawsuit on behalf of all businesses in Alberta that were illegally shut down and lost money.
	And we're doing a vaccine class action lawsuit, which from my perspective literally applies to everybody who was lied to and had a needle stuck in their arm.
	Because what we're saying is that by lying to people about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines and having all the chief medical officers of health colluding to keep information from people under the guise of preventing vaccine hesitancy, what they were really doing in a legal perspective, if you think of the consent forms you have to sign every time you have a surgery or medical procedure, they were conspiring to commit assault.
	So our governments were conspiring to assault us with...
	A drug that wasn't safe, wasn't effective, was extremely dangerous in some circumstances, young children, pregnant women, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
	And, you know, I think that they need to be held to account, and that's what we're trying to do.
	Oh, and then the other one, interestingly, we were involved in a fatality inquiry where a relatively young Alberta man...
	He died from capillary leak syndrome.
	He bled to death through his lungs after receiving an AstraZeneca shot and then a Pfizer shot.
	And the chief medical examiner and the other health officials, of course, have been doing everything they can to keep anybody from coming to the conclusion that he was vaccinated to death.
	So, of course, we're moving that forward in the form of a fatality inquiry, and we're going to be putting evidence to the court to demonstrate that people have literally been vaccinated to death in this province, and it's time for the courts to tell the government.
	If the government won't stop on its own, it's time for the courts to tell them to stop.
	All right, amazing stuff, Jeff.
	So we'll be in touch.
	We're going to do a follow-up.
	We'll do a follow-up as there is stuff to follow up on.
	But everybody, the link, I sent you the Substack link.
	What was the other one?
	The website link, and I'll put them in the pinned comment when this interview, when this stream is over, and it'll be pinned up there.
	Viva, thanks for having me on.
	It's always such a pleasure to talk to you.
	Anytime and every time, Jeff.
	Thank you for coming on.
	Okay, you have a good day.
	Thanks. All right, see you soon.
	And now we're going from one aspect of Canadian insanity to another.
	I've never met either Katie or Carrie before.
	I've seen some interviews.
	I've been boning up in as much as I can on the story of the mass culling of ostriches in British Columbia.
	And so we've got Katie, who I believe is the daughter of the owner of the farm, and Carrie, who I believe is the lawyer representing them.
	And they are on, I don't want to say a ticking time bomb.
	It's rather a ticking clock because there's a very, very hard deadline coming up on February 1st, from what I understand.
	If you don't know this story, you're going to know it as well.
	I've been catching up.
	Rebel News has covered it.
	I'm going to share the link to Rebel News' website where you can sign the petition.
	Put pressure on politicians, because this has to stop.
	I'm going to bring in Katie, and I'm going to bring in Carrie, and I'm going to go on the bottom just like this so that it's symmetrical.
	Ladies, how does this go, the battle?
	I know a bit about what's going on in this story, but I think you're going to need to fill everybody in, and I don't know who the best is going to be to fill it in.
	Katie, you are the daughter of the owners of your parents on the farm.
	My mom and her business partner, both, yeah, they own Universal Ostrich Farms.
	And we've, my mom started Universal Ostrich Farms, Karen Esperson.
	And we obviously, for as long as I've been alive, well, I guess I'm 35 years of my years I've been alive.
	I've been a part of the ostrich's lives and they've been part of ours.
	Where is the farm located?
	Or where was it located?
	Because they're my temporary farm right now where they're being held.
	No, no.
	They're being held here in their own home captive.
	They're as safe as can be in their own quarantined area.
	They have a beautiful pen that is wildlife fenced.
	So that's where they are and that's where they have been and they haven't been moved.
	We are in Edgewood, British Columbia.
	We're about an hour and a half away from any major city.
	And we live in a small town, Edgewood, which is about a population of 600 people, actually.
	Okay, and this ostrich farm has been in the family for a while.
	Was it originally meat farming, or what was the purpose of the farm originally?
	So originally, my grandfather and my grandmother actually started getting into them, and they were in Alberta.
	And my grandfather, Esper Esperson, was the president of the Alberta Ostrich Association at the time, years ago.
	They came in and they were kind of a novelty.
	Everybody got into these amazing fancy ostriches and they were overpriced at that time and they just were something really cool but there was no market for them.
	So farms quickly learned we have all these really expensive ostriches but we don't know how to make any money off them.
	So a lot of farms at that time started to just fold and get out of it.
	And my mom, when my grandparents got out of it, my mom got into it.
	And my mom and dad at the time.
	My mom, so she's just spearheaded and been a pioneer in the industry for over the years.
	At the beginning, it was about learning them, education on their hatching, creating an industry, and the industry was kind of around meat.
	So it was going to be a healthier meat.
	It was going to be healthier for the planet.
	They are very lean, red meat, and it was all about that.
	And then we started to really start to change our focus, though, and see the amazing abilities that this ostrich has to do really good things for humanity by just using their eggs.
	And things that we could do with their amazing natural immune system and their ability to conquer environmental challenges that they're faced with.
	And so that has been the main focus of the farm for the last three years, Promoting natural immunity.
	And really, you know, we're all born with antibodies.
	And these ostriches have been on the earth for 21 million years.
	It's the latest Druthio fossil found.
	And so you can imagine that these guys have stayed on this planet for a long time for a given reason.
	So that's our main focus now out here is just the robust immune system.
	Okay, interesting.
	So no farming, no human consumption of the meat or eggs any longer?
	No, correct.
	And do you do guided tours?
	Is it like open to the public?
	There's an ostrich farm, at least there was one, I think it's still there, in Montreal or outside of Montreal when I lived in Quebec.
	And I don't want to name it because I don't want to bring down any federal agents on them.
	I used to go there and get ostrich eggs and ostrich meat.
	It's delicious.
	It's like filet mignon but with less fat.
	The eggs themselves are amazing.
	But they took people on tours.
	It was sort of a petting zoo type farm.
	Is it open to the public, your mom's farm?
	Yeah, it has been.
	And it's probably one of her favorite things to do.
	And even us, like me, when I'm here and if somebody comes and wants a tour, I would do the tour.
	It's probably one of the favorite things to do here is educate people about how fun they are.
	The personalities that they have and how they are like our family members.
	You know, there's young ones that we don't, you know, that we don't have as, we're gaining that connection because they're like a little brother.
	But with all the old ones, we have some here that are 34 years old, 33 years old.
	We have so many in their 20s.
	And so it's fun to take people and their kids or people driving by in tourism, show them up close these.
	Big, beautiful animals that are 300 pounds with the most beautiful big eyes that just look into your soul.
	And they have personalities.
	They have hairdos.
	They are unique and silly.
	And they also have a very beautiful pecking order.
	And that being said, that's my mom, Karen Esperson, and her business partner.
	They can go out there.
	And they've earned their trust over 35 years.
	We have ostriches that watch out for them because we have bratty teenagers in there.
	So there's the older ones that will go and they'll protect them and keep those ones away from my mom when she's feeding.
	And they have this just beautiful thing to show people.
	And yes, so it is open to the public.
	It's one of our favorite things to do is educate.
	I remember reading, and it's a fact, you'll tell me if it's wrong, that in a fight between an ostrich and a lion, it's 50-50, because ostriches can disembowel anybody and anything with their talon leg kicks, and their legs are just massive tree trunks of muscle and lethality.
	They are.
	They kick out, and they drag their nail down, and that's their fighting mechanism.
	So they would punch out, drag down, and they can use that nail in the wild to disembowel a lion, yeah.
	All right, that's why I don't get you.
	Yeah, but they live to 75 years old, too, so we'll get away from that fact and say, these guys have a lot of years left in them, and that's what we're fighting for.
	It's a lot of lives, a lot of years left.
	You've got 400 of them on the farm?
	Correct. Okay, now I guess we bring in, Carrie, you're an attorney, correct?
	No, actually, and I want to make that very, very clear.
	You know, I get into enough trouble, let alone with the law suicide.
	Please. No, I'm litigation manager for the family and the liaison.
	As you can imagine, there's so much information.
	Right now, the lawyers do not have time to be doing interviews because we're trying to get into court to get a stay of execution, if you will, with these animals for at least 30 days so we can get all of our, I was going to say ducks in a row.
	There's just too many puns available, run afoul of the law and such in this case.
	But at the end of the day, there is a deadline and these birds are scheduled to be executed on February 1st.
	So explain how we even got...
	And by the way, my apologies because I thought I saw litigator, not litigation liaison, but I still would have made the same mistake.
	So not an attorney, Carrie Simpson, but she stayed at the holiday.
	It's probably a good quality to not have.
	I would agree with you.
	So how does it come to be?
	How do you get in trouble?
	How does it come where they say...
	We've got to kill them all.
	Well, you know, I've been watching the comments here, and I got a few minutes of the show that you just did.
	You know, I think Canadians need to realize there's something very nefarious happening in this nation.
	And at some point in time, and maybe this is it, maybe it's going to take the 400 ostriches to bring to the attention of what's happening between Big Pharma, the World Health Organization, our...
	Political people being in cahoots, making money off of this and all the rest of it.
	So there's a lot of tentacles to this animal.
	But in this case, we've been watching the culling of animals and it's been very strategic over the years.
	So back in 2012 in Ontario, for instance, there was a herd of sharpshire sheep and the Canadian Food Industry Agency.
	The ones that have their own special act.
	They have a president.
	They are under our Minister of Agriculture.
	So there's two pieces of legislation that are very paramount in this.
	The CFIA Act and the Animal Health Act.
	They've been, you know, culling animals for no reason for a long time.
	You know, there seems to be this stamping out mentality.
	So in the case of the sheep, There was concern over scrapies.
	And of course, the only way you could test for scrapies is to kill the animal in the post-mortem test.
	So once they had a kill order, a group called the Animal Peace Corp, if I recall correctly, kidnapped the sheep and put them in hiding.
	Regrettably, it wasn't too long before those hidden sheep were found and killed, and they were found not to have, not one of them had scrapies.
	But the people who kidnapped the sheep, We're then charged under this act, the Canadian Food Inspection Act, because if you get in the way of these agents, you can be charged with conspiracy, for instance, to defraud a public service, obstruction of a CFI agent.
	So there's a lot of power here without a lot of accountability.
	And, you know, that power without accountability is a very dangerous...
	Component to any nation, especially Canadians who value freedom and liberty and, you know, the government overreach can only go so far.
	And we've seen this tendency, whether it was through the COVID situation, this situation, and a lot of other situations, you know, where my interest was this is last year I wrote a report on premise identity.
	So many provinces have now moved and created laws that every animal with livestock Meat protein, specifically, has to be registered and accounted for.
	So those people with four chickens in their backyard in the city, they must now register those animals.
	The government wants to know every animal that you could possibly eat and where it's located.
	In Alberta, they're assigning units, so they're limiting people on what they can have.
	So this whole control mechanism that we see very well.
	You know, directed through the 2030 agenda is coming very much to fruition here.
	So this is part of that.
	It is the psychological conditioning of create fear over the avian flu, kill all the animals to show people how dangerous it is when in fact...
	You know, avian flu has been here for a very long time, and yet killing healthy animals, I would hope we are advanced enough as a society now to know that there are other mechanisms available to test healthy animals and save them from being executed in this fashion.
	Well, and also just to state the obvious, ostriches are flightless birds.
	So it's not exactly like they're migratory birds that are going to go infect other flocks or infect other, I don't know if you call them herds of birds.
	Can I just address that?
	Because that's one of the key things here.
	We have the opportunity to have a living laboratory right at the midst for the whole globe to watch.
	These birds are not...
	Contagious as far as being close to other commercial poultry.
	They're isolated in this little place called Edgewood, BC.
	We have statistical and scientific background already on these animals.
	We have DNA from them.
	We know them.
	We can study immunity here.
	We can learn.
	I mean, everybody knows by now vaccinations are not the way forward.
	They don't work.
	If they do work, they only work for a certain amount of time.
	Why aren't we taking this opportunity?
	If we really care about people health, animal health, the health of nations, or do we care about making big pharma rich, politicians rich, their stakeholders rich?
	What is really our motive here?
	Because if our motive is global health and well-being...
	Then this is a perfect opportunity to study whether or not natural immunity has a future.
	Can we contain those antigens?
	Can we isolate them and pass them on to younger birds to see whether or not they build natural immunity through that?
	There's so much opportunity here to do something good.
	And this government is saying, we don't want that to happen.
	We want to silence these people.
	We want to break these people.
	We want to kill this experiment.
	Meaning the execution of these 400 now healthy birds.
	Let me emphasize, the birds, the population there, we haven't had any deaths.
	There is a healthy population there now.
	Well, let's back it up all the way to the beginning.
	How do you guys even get on the radar for this government intervention?
	From what I understand, two ostriches did die a while back.
	I don't know how long ago, and they were infected, or is that wrong?
	That's right, yeah.
	So that's correct, but we'll go back to...
	This all started mid-December, but we're going to back up.
	I'm going to go quickly to 2020.
	2020, we had some illnesses here and symptomatic.
	And as everybody knows, as farmers in the industry, we will all go through some, you know, different things through our herds.
	And it wasn't alarming, though, this time, because in 2020, we had symptomatic symptoms.
	We reached out to our vet.
	Our vet wore it away, said, okay, let's do some tissue samples.
	We got some tissue samples off to him immediately because at that same time, we had some deaths in 2020.
	Deaths of ostriches, not deaths of people.
	No, no, sorry.
	Let's be very clear.
	Deaths of the ostriches, mortalities in the animal.
	Now, I want to understand, this is avian flu back in 2020 in a couple of ostriches.
	No, not at all.
	So I'm going to get to that.
	So 2020, we take the tissue sample.
	Tissue sample goes off to our vet, comes back to us as positive for pseudonymous, which is a bacteria, not avian flu.
	So we started, we're like, how did we get that?
	And the vet was like, I mean, it could live in the soil.
	It could come off a tourist's hand.
	And it could have got to the birds.
	So, at that time, we started doing some of our own treatments.
	Our flock heard they started to gain an immunity to whatever was going on.
	We didn't lose any more ostriches, and they got healthy.
	They were fine.
	Speed up now to 2024, December, mid-December, and now my mom...
	Karen Esperson and at the farm here, we're like, these are the same symptoms.
	Uh-oh, like we're now where these symptoms are just like we had in 2020.
	Let's call our vet.
	And we did start to have some mortality through our ostriches in mid-December.
	But we did notice that these symptoms were a little bit more aggressive, for sure.
	So we called our vet, did our due diligence.
	Through the holidays, we had to leave a message.
	We were waiting for him to get back to us.
	And on the 28th, an anonymous tip goes in, supposedly, to CFIA.
	CFIA calls and says, we have an anonymous tip that you guys have, there's somebody sure you have avian flu.
	And then so we start explaining the symptoms to CFIA and said, like, okay, but these are the symptoms.
	Now we've had some that are symptomatic, but they're better now.
	So, and then CFIA said, absolutely.
	This does not sound like avian flu because if animals get avian flu, they die pretty quickly.
	They succumb to their, you know, to the illness.
	So, can you mind if we just come out when you have a couple fresh samples?
	If you have a couple more mortalities, can you, you know, can we come out and do some samples?
	My mom, absolutely.
	Yeah, please, let's see what this is because we want to contain it.
	At that time, we'd already started our own protocols.
	I want to be clear, we're a farm with a lot of history and knowledge.
	So we already start, you know, any ones that are kind of not feeling well, we start moving them into their own area, take care of them.
	CFIA, we call CFIA when we had two new samples.
	So these are two new.
	We had mortality before that.
	Like in that timeframe.
	So I'm going to be very clear.
	We have had more deaths than two.
	Some people are saying that there's some confusion there.
	So I want to clear that up.
	The CFIA took samples off two deceased.
	I got to ask, how many died?
	In total.
	And I want to make like, so we were almost 500 at that time, right?
	480 something.
	We've had 69 in total.
	Symptomatic to this virus have succumbed to their illness.
	But painting a picture of your large poultry farm and stuff, you can have, like, there could be a mink that comes in and takes 60 out in a night, right?
	So this is a large animal, so it sounds maybe a little bit, I don't know, larger, but it's 69 have succumbed to this illness.
	But there's also over 35 that have been treated.
	By my mom.
	And have gotten, they absolutely would not even know that they've been sick.
	The 16 on the diet, was it confirmed as the avian flu or was it still as of yet undetermined?
	Yeah, I was going to get there.
	So they took the samples off these two ostriches that had laid there for 16 hours waiting for them.
	They came, they took PCR tests on each dead carcass.
	They took it orally and they took a rectal.
	And at the same time, this is very important.
	We asked, can we get some of those samples done on our healthy birds, the ones that are alive still?
	And they said, no, that's not possible.
	So they leave and we are about an hour and a half away from a city.
	So I want to paint that picture too.
	They leave here at about three o'clock in the afternoon.
	They have to drive an hour and a half back to Vernon.
	At 2 o'clock, they said that we'll find out within 24 to 36 hours.
	The next day, by 2 o'clock, we got a call from the Abbotsford Lab, which is, I would say, about 6 hours away from here, 7 hours away from where we are.
	2 o'clock in the afternoon the next day, we get a call saying, we tested positive off those PCR tests.
	For H5N1, and we are now under quarantine, and we are to be all depopulated.
	Every animal on this property is to be killed.
	Okay, depopulated is culled.
	Culled, yeah.
	Okay, and the number, it sounds like it's a big number, but I've never been on a farm.
	Animals get sick.
	When kids in daycare get sick, I mean, poo-poo kids don't die from a cold, but animals and birds get colds just like any other animal, and it spreads among farm animals.
	Absolutely. Yeah.
	And so I want another really important thing to show, tell people and paint the picture in people's heads of our farm.
	There's a huge area of our ostrich and we have in one section, big section, a big field is all of our older birds.
	Now, all of our older ostrich are 2020 older.
	And then in one side of our farm, it's the younger guys because they don't have as much strength to fight the big guys.
	And we kind of give them a little bit of time to grow up and be able to handle those punches and kicks and fights for pecking order.
	So it was very strange enough.
	Not one ostrich that has been here before 2020 has been symptomatic.
	Not one death of over 300 and something of our elder birds.
	Which would raise the alarm.
	Not a concern.
	It's the alarm of, oh my god, this is fascinating.
	These animals have obviously gained a herd immunity years ago to something that they're being exposed to now.
	And so our younger population, 2020 and younger, are the ones that we have really had the symptoms with.
	But those ones now...
	Have hit their immunity.
	So we have no more deaths symptomatically.
	There's no more deaths with our younger ones.
	They have hit their herd immunity, natural immunity.
	And when they took those two tests, those PCR tests, at no time, and at no time through this, have they taken tissue samples.
	They've taken no other samples.
	They came here in my eyes.
	They came and took off two dead animals.
	So there's no risk of them staying alive.
	They took tests.
	And they left here with something that they, and they tested for something exactly what they wanted to find.
	And they went.
	So, 69 died.
	Did they only take tests from two?
	Two dead ones.
	And more importantly, the gold standard of this kind of test would be to take tissue samples.
	Like, why didn't they take these dead birds and conduct an autopsy?
	Like, only two birds and this...
	You know, amateur test of swabbing the throat and the rectal area and then putting it through a PCR test, which for most of our research now says they're not to be used as diagnostic testing.
	More than that, for avian flu, all tests are supposed to then go to the lab in Manitoba, which is run by the World Health Organization for Animal Health.
	I know, shocking probably to you and your audience.
	For confirmation.
	And we have no evidence whatsoever that that's been done.
	It's not the case that they tested other birds and they did not show positive for avian flu.
	They tested two and only two anal and mouth swabs of a deceased animal with a PCR test, conclude avian flu, pursuant to which now you have to slaughter the other 400 and change who are still alive.
	Exactly. And then really important too is like These animals are, you know, we've asked continuously.
	We said, can we please just get a reputable vet, approved vet, can we get them to come and take a blood sample?
	Take a sample ourselves so we know for future.
	Say, what we're dealing with.
	And we just actually talked, just talked, which was scary enough.
	We just talked to a vet and she was like, absolutely, I would come down and do this for you so we could then approach CFIA.
	Before we were able to even approach CFIA, she got a call saying not one sample will leave that farm.
	We got an email on a Saturday from the government saying, highlighting that if one test, Or any treatment or testing is performed over there that we are subject to $200,000 fine and six months in jail.
	So we should say at this point, too, there is a team of researchers, of immunologists at UBC that has come together.
	We've been just so...
	Amazed, grateful, and overwhelmed with the amount of support from experts in the fields of immunology, testing animals, the vets.
	Everybody's willing to help.
	Everybody's willing to, how do you want us to transport the samples?
	We'll follow your protocols.
	Just let our labs, and you can imagine the labs at UBC, probably know the protocols for containing pathogens, right?
	And yet, The agents for CFIA say not one sample.
	And there's no appeal.
	There's no appeal.
	So this is a purely administrative body, a purely administrative procedure right now.
	There is no...
	You're trying to get a court involved to enjoin the order of the CFIA.
	CFIA, it's the Canadian Food and...
	It's like Canada's FDA.
	Yeah. I guess it's sort of maybe like the FDA or USDA.
	It's okay.
	There's no court proceedings other than your petition now to have this order enjoined.
	So CFIA comes in and they issue an order.
	They say slaughter them all by February 1st.
	Okay. No, there's one more curious caveat in this.
	So there is the ability to have your farm declared a distinct unit.
	So that application was made, and Katie will tell you about what that form's like.
	And on January 2nd, the family got, basically, your birds have valuable genetics.
	So either they're valuable genetics...
	And I forget what the other specialty breed or something.
	So valuable genetics here, because we have science at play, like literally a living laboratory.
	So they said, yes, you're valuable genetics.
	So everybody kind of went, oh, good, okay.
	Six days later, was it?
	No, eight days later, they get another letter saying, no, you do not qualify for valuable genetics.
	So we're not sure what happened.
	Within that eight-day period, but we'll find out.
	But suddenly these birds are now, you know, bring on the execution and no appeal.
	Yeah, it's really important to know.
	So we were given, so it's called an exemption package.
	So we could fill out an exemption package, a unit one exemption package.
	So we could fill out these forms and we could...
	Throw in a Hail Mary and hope that these forms will make our birds exempt.
	When we received the Unit 1 exemption package, each question in there is for commercial poultry farms, and it lists in there ducks, turkeys, geese, and chickens.
	And my mom, we're reading all the questions, and my mom is like, I can't answer any of these questions, honestly.
	Like, I can't.
	None of these pertain to what we do, who we are, what animal they are.
	And so my mom, we got a hold of the caseworker, both of us were there, and the caseworker said, you, if you don't fill out this package, you're automatically denied.
	You're in non-compliance and you're not going to be given any exemption.
	So then my mom said, why?
	I can't answer yes to a lot of these.
	They're going to be no because they don't pertain.
	So she said, I'm telling you right now, this is one of the most important steps.
	If you do not fill this out, you do not qualify for exemption.
	So my mom...
	Together, we're reading through it and going, no, no, no.
	And a couple days later, January 10th, we get a notice.
	You, sorry, you failed to complete.
	You failed to meet any of the standards or the questions.
	And you are set to be called February 1st.
	And in there, too, it says right underneath, it says, this is not subject to appeal.
	So they take away our rights to even question that.
	And then right below that, Sickly enough, they send us a mental health link and say we're going to need it.
	And then, yeah, like that's a whole new one.
	I just want to ask, how do you even, how do you euthanize an option?
	So this is even, it's just more, sorry, this is more sick.
	You know, they expect that these healthy animals out there now, that my mom, Karen, and her business partner, Dave, They're supposed to go out there and humanely look each one in their big beautiful eyes, some of them that they've had for 34 years, 35 years, and they're supposed to kill them by their own hands.
	So they expected them to go out there, do their dirty work, kill 400 of them by their own hands and dispose of them by themselves.
	By February 1st.
	So they gave them the regulations of how they want the pits dug.
	So by regulation, they want a pit dug 9 meters deep.
	They want it 60 meters away from the next pit.
	You're allowed 2.5 tons of ostrich or animal per pit.
	So they are expecting, that works out to, 40 pits with 10 ostriches each.
	60 meters apart, and they want them all buried back in our hayland.
	They haven't asked us where there's any wells, where there's any springs.
	There's natural springs back there.
	So they're so worried about this avian flu, but they're okay with us putting supposedly 400 such unhealthy animals that they came and hazmat suits in.
	Back in our hay fields, all that soil can get leaked anywhere.
	And we have grizzlies.
	We have cougars out here.
	Those are some of our environmental battles with our animals.
	So they're going to dig these up.
	So where are we making any sense at all here?
	They come in their hazmat suits and they're okay with us just us disposing of them and trusting us that they're just going in these pits.
	Katie, I have to ask, not morbid curiosity, logistically, are you supposed to shoot them with a shotgun or are you supposed to cut their heads off?
	And I'm not trying to be like, it's not a chicken.
	However, they don't know.
	They don't know, and I'm going to be honest, we don't know.
	Biggest question to the world is how do you go out there to your 400 cattle, your 400 goats, your 400 sheep, and you look at them and they're eating normal and they're acting normal, they're being normal, and off two tests, you're supposed to go out there by yourself and you're supposed to kill them.
	There's no humane way to kill 400 healthy animals.
	So, gun, slitting goats, like there's, yeah.
	You're supposed to then get in an excavator and dig up nine meters deep, 40 different pits, or how many pits would it be?
	It would be 40. 40 different pits to bury the carcasses of 400 ostriches, nine meters deep, and I presume, what level of topsoil must there be?
	I mean, they can't let you have a foot of topsoil.
	How many meters of topsoil?
	I think it's two meters.
	Make you slaughter your own animals.
	It's not done the way a vet euthanizes a dog with a barbutyl injection.
	There's only a couple of ways to kill an animal the size of an ostrich.
	Dispose of the 400 bodies.
	They don't know the ostrich.
	So let me just put out there.
	A, you can't walk in there with them.
	They're extremely dangerous, as you stated about the lion.
	They have to know you.
	So there's B, a gunshot goes off.
	We're going to have ostriches hit.
	Cotton fences.
	Like, they are a very nervous animal, too.
	And if they're out and something's happening, they have a sixth sense.
	They know when something's happening.
	They're a smart animal.
	It doesn't matter.
	You know, every animal knows in their heart when things aren't right.
	And those, when we're supposed to, so really, really sick story, you know, is there was a CTV journalism done not that long ago in November.
	And it's been since taken down since I mentioned it to CFIA.
	And I have the screenshots of it that it's a very good read and everybody should read it.
	Inside Canada's Chaotic Response to the Avian Flu.
	Now in that article they do an interview on a family and it's been public so I'm sure I can say it's a Sheely family.
	And these poor people had an exotic bird farm.
	And they came in and said, you have avian bird flu.
	I don't know exactly how that got laid out, but they had it.
	They give them two options.
	One, you're going to watch your birds die a horrible death.
	They paint this picture.
	And you do not get compensated.
	Two, you walk away.
	You let us bring in a third-party contractor killer.
	We will kill them all for you, and you will walk away with compensation.
	So this family...
	Nicely. Little family.
	Like a whole-hearted family.
	Little farm like us.
	Walk away from their animals that they've loved for their pets.
	And they came home to blood up the walls.
	Blood all over the ground.
	Heads of their exotic birds left behind.
	Some of their birds not even fully dead.
	And it was traumatizing for this family.
	And I explained that.
	I said, reading things like this, I said to CFIA, Because they said to us, if we don't kill them ourselves, they're going to bring a third-party contractor in here to kill all of our animals for us.
	And I said, how do we have any trust in you?
	Like, look at these articles.
	Look at this.
	And three hours later, that article was not to be found.
	is...
	It's the most, it's beyond inhumane.
	And I'm just trying to steel man things here.
	The concern is even though they're not, even though they're flightless birds, other migratory birds can come through and pick up their feces and whatever so they can spread it that way.
	But that's a good, you raise a good point.
	Yeah, when the agents came out from CFIA, again, if they were really interested in finding out the science behind how are birds getting infected and such, Why didn't they take samples from the water?
	Why didn't they take samples from the feces left over from the wild ducks?
	Just to highlight the absurdity, because if that is the concern, to make you put these carcasses in pits where they will get dug up, it will go elsewhere, doesn't resolve the problem if they are in fact contaminated to begin with.
	You're currently not open to the public not doing tours right now, obviously.
	No, no.
	We take our protocols very serious.
	I want that, like, out to the public.
	If there was something here, the last thing we want is to make anybody unsafe.
	But two, they are, they're tests, and so when we, when the symptoms came to the farm, it was due to 500, three to 500 mallard ducks.
	Because of an abnormally warm winter, they landed in the pens and they started going and eating out of their buckets and eating out of their feed buckets and then pooping in their feed buckets.
	And so the ostriches, the young ones who didn't have that immunity, they were starting to get sick.
	When CFIA was here in our kitchen, they came up to our house and had a visit at our kitchen table.
	I said, what are we doing about the mallard ducks?
	That are going to fly away.
	The migratory risk of these animals that are just going to the next farm and the next farm and the next farm.
	Killing our 400 is not going to solve this problem.
	And they said, nothing.
	That's wildlife.
	This is absurd.
	What would you do?
	Go kill every migratory bird in the world?
	That's what the websites say to do.
	You've got to kill them.
	You've got to quarantine off the entire area.
	Any migratory birds, trap and kill them.
	I'm just looking up in real time.
	So then we offered, we said, hey, don't we need to try to stabilize the migratory risk of the flight of the migratory birds and their major flight paths?
	And anyways, they're trying in my view, they're stamping out natural immunity.
	They're not they have a stamping out policy and that's what they call one is sick they're all dead so they're and they're not stamping and are not stamping out a virus They're stamping out natural immunity.
	And we need to be really afraid because now Carrie can go into like, that's the next 400 cows down the road.
	That's your 400 goats.
	That's your 400 sheep.
	And this is where we stand together.
	And we come together and say, it stops here.
	These 400 ostriches are just standing up for a way better, bigger cause.
	And that is they're saying, if you're not going to let us do independent testing to prove it wasn't pseudonymous again.
	Like, then, you know what?
	They're coming.
	This is a bigger agenda.
	$590 million got allotted to Moderna for you to roll up your sleeve and take another bird flu vaccine.
	They're afraid that we're actually...
	Now that they've said that we are so...
	At risk with avian flu, but our ostriches are all getting better and healthy.
	That goes against everything they're trying to put fear out there in the world.
	Our priest says it seems like it's less about health, more about bankrupting a farm.
	No, to me, it's about creating the terror that they created in the early days of COVID.
	There's one confirmed case in all of Canada.
	Was it a British Columbia kid?
	One confirmed case of H5N1.
	A teenager in British Columbia.
	One. Who had no link to any poultry farm or anything.
	And to slaughter 400 ostriches, not for meat, not for, I mean, that wouldn't be any easier, but at least it goes to sustenance, is horrifying.
	They can say, look how serious this is.
	We're making progress.
	We've got that one kid with age 5, 1, N1, whatever.
	Now we get to slaughter all these chickens at the drop of a hat.
	So you petitioned the courts now.
	I guess there's an emergency injunction or a provisional injunction?
	We're hoping to get into court this week.
	Of course, it was very much a challenge to find lawyers because nobody has really challenged this to the max.
	And I put a legal team together on this.
	I want this legislation governing this kind of...
	Tyranny and abuse of not only animals, but of people to be brought into check.
	We all need animal health regulations, but they must be fair.
	People must have confidence.
	This is what's happening now.
	Anybody with dead poultry will not be calling or going to their vet.
	That was my question.
	I don't own a farm.
	If a dog dies, you obviously...
	I don't even know if I want to find out why the dog died, I would just cremate it and keep its ashes or his ashes.
	If a chicken dies, if an ostrich dies, I mean, I guess from a responsible perspective, you go and you find out what it was to make sure it's not contagious, but true.
	Who the hell in their right mind is going to get...
	I've always said it.
	The second you get any of the authorities involved, they get their claws in and they are the proverbial blob and they'll eat everything.
	So the latest...
	The latest from them, and the world needs to hear, is they just came out a couple days ago, and they did, or on Thursday or Friday, I think it was Friday, sorry, and they came into protocol check.
	Well, no problem.
	We're happy to show you our very stringent protocols and how to follow.
	Wait, Katie, wait, Katie.
	They first had a, they were coming two days before this visit.
	Bless all the people who are concerned.
	There was a nice little reception committee there waiting.
	You know, video record, you know, is essential in this.
	So they didn't show up.
	Instead, they rescheduled and they said, well, we'll let you know the morning of when we're coming out to visit.
	Now, remember, they have all power.
	They can go in.
	They can do whatever.
	So this time, though, they notified the RCMP because they feared for their safety.
	Fortunately, it brought to their attention that there was demonstrators and they were afraid for their safety.
	This cute little 20 people holding up signs with a coffee, smiling, and brought two RCMP cruisers.
	The abusers pretending to be the victims.
	As they are abusing you...
	Oh, it's like the judges.
	We're getting threats online, so we need to put a gag order on the proceedings.
	No, first of all, the world needs to know what's going on.
	And if they express themselves peacefully in opposition to this wholesale slaughter, damn right you're going to meet some unhappy people.
	So when they came out a couple days ago, they made us very aware that come February, this is a new level.
	Come February 1st, they wanted us to be very clear.
	They're allowed to come through our personal residence.
	And they're allowed to take any byproduct or any, in quotations, thing that they want out of our home to do with ostriches.
	So we better not get in the way.
	We better stand down.
	And they are coming through our house to take everything out of here.
	And they asked us...
	Where do we, if we were working on healthy and natural immunity and we had these awesome antibodies that could help other animals naturally, where would those be?
	And so they actually asked us where they could find the COVID-19 antibodies that are natural.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	So A, you have authority to go through our personal residence.
	Strip us of anything that has been our livelihood and our passion for over 35 years.
	My mom is afraid of just her painted eggs.
	My mom is like, because she asked them, she said, do you mean like you could take my painted eggs that I've had people paint over 35 years?
	And they said, you bet.
	It's like the peanut and...
	Oh, I forget the raccoon's name.
	I think it was Fred.
	Out of New York State.
	No, it's like there's no private property.
	All they can do is manufacture a pretext and they can seize and do whatever the hell they want with everything you own for your own safety.
	You've found a lawyer.
	You've got to get to court and get an injunction between now and February 1st.
	Right, so I can tell you.
	I received a lot of emails saying, Carrie, you need to help this family.
	You need to help this family.
	And I kind of looked at the facts and stuff and said, you know, these 400 ostriches deserve to be saved.
	This is just outrageous what's gone here.
	So fortunately, my Rolodex is full of some very good lawyers.
	And I have to say, it took a day and a half of contacting.
	Everybody possible.
	But you know what?
	I've never seen anything like it.
	All these top legal firms, they said, Carrie, we don't have any experience because nobody's ever really, really challenged in a meaningful way with the funds necessary.
	And, you know, please, people, if everybody chips in, the legal cost for stopping this insanity is well worth the investment for everybody.
	This is about our freedom, our liberty on so many fronts.
	Even these big firms, they send out internal emails within their firms asking anybody and everybody to do it.
	And then I finally found somebody who I think is just going to be a godsend in this case.
	And he says, actually, I am familiar with that act.
	I'm fighting it on compensation for another one.
	And he says, I get it.
	So he's put a legal team together.
	I've had now lawyers involved with maybe, Charter challenges, you know, on this because there's some openings there.
	So I think we are going to use this opportunity to hopefully do a lot of good and set some important precedents.
	And most importantly, save those 400 beautiful, healthy birds, you guys.
	Avian flu kills everybody within 14 days after exposure.
	These birds are not dying.
	Do you have a Give, Send, Go campaign?
	We have.
	You can go to Save Our Ostriches.
	So just think S-O-O, SaveOurOstriches.com.
	And all the information, e-transfers are the best because we don't get dinged any points for their cut.
	So there's e-transfer information there.
	That's where you'll find the updates.
	There is also an email and we will be putting out information.
	I will make sure that the minute we have the court date set, which we believe will be this week, I'll let you know for sure.
	And I'll put you and your wonderful audience on our list to make sure that those updates are given.
	So saveourostridges.com.
	It's the website here that I'm looking at right now, right?
	Right. Okay.
	So that'll take you directly to the information.
	All right.
	Well, I didn't wake up angry, but I probably will be going to bed angry.
	I'm going to share that link with everybody and we'll keep doing what we can do.
	And you know what?
	It's a righteous anger.
	And, you know, I tell Canadians because they're so conditioned to be nice and peacemakers.
	We are in a time now where Canadians have the right to be righteously angry.
	And I use righteous in there.
	Because what's happening to this nation, what's happening to every person, is not what it is to live in a free and sovereign democratic nation.
	And this issue, whether it's 400 ostriches or...
	You know, the coercion and manipulation that happened with getting Canadians to inject an experimental concoction into their arms.
	And I can give other example, other example, example.
	At some point, we as Canadians must come together as the people and say enough is enough.
	We're going to have an election.
	You guys don't elect a politician.
	Elect a leader.
	Tell them what you want them to do and ask them how they're going to do it.
	We have to change the relationship here on so many fronts.
	But we are working hard to save 400 beautiful souls.
	And I keep saying the world is watching.
	This is honestly, the world is watching what's going to happen here because then that opens the door to Pandora's box.
	It's the next door, it's the next door, it's the next door.
	My reaction, define F them, and if they want to come, first of all, exhaust all legal remedies, they're going to make you kill animals?
	Good luck.
	See what an ostrich does.
	And like you say, they're jittery animals.
	They move like...
	They run 65 miles an hour.
	I defer to your better experiences whether or not they're intelligent.
	Whenever I've met them, I don't know if they're intelligent, but they're beautiful.
	I'm going to show a video afterwards.
	They're amazing.
	And marvels of nature.
	It is human abuse to even suggest to an owner that they have to go slaughter 400 officers.
	It's cruel and unusual treatment for them, what they are putting this family through right now, and to put to them the responsibility of killing family members, because I think anyone who knows this family and the interaction that they have...
	With these family members that have been part of their lives for, you know, some 34 years, hey, Katie?
	Yeah. I can't think of any crueler abuse.
	And they know it.
	Otherwise, why would they give them a link to mental health aid?
	It's setting it up.
	They want H5N1 to be the next COVID and this is how they have to start.
	And it's not going to be.
	We're going to stop it here.
	It's not going to be.
	This isn't going to be another pandemic because we're going to stop it as the people.
	We can show that natural immunity can win and we're going to protect our farmers.
	And our people as a result.
	And our people.
	And our people.
	Sorry. I'm animal.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't worry.
	I'm going to put up the links again when this is over.
	But Carrie, Katie, thank you very much.
	We'll be in touch and I'll be following it.
	And if there's anything, you've got my number, both of you.
	So we'll be in touch.
	Thanks so much.
	And thanks to your audience.
	They look like a well-informed, great group of people that are going to make the difference here.
	So together we will do this.
	We will definitely put it on blast.
	Everybody can snip and clip and share segments.
	I know one segment in particular, which I'll be posting later.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to segue briefly.
	A little palate cleanse.
	Where was our visit to the ostrich farm here?
	This was me back in younger days.
	Oh my gosh.
	That was after it bit me, actually.
	Did you do that?
	That's an emu.
	Why? Oh, okay, we gotta go.
	We're out of here.
	I think that was an emu.
	That's an off-page.
	There you go.
	Oh yeah, look at that.
	Oh my gosh!
	That thing would disembowel me if it was given the opportunity.
	Oh my gosh!
	Alright, that, by the way, it didn't like my breath and when it shook its head, fluid came out of its mouth into my face.
	That was years ago, people.
	Don't test me for avian flu.
	Atrocious. It's atrocious.
	We're going to end with something of a white pill.
	I guess it's not a white pill because it's what individuals have to do to help their brethren when the government screws everything up.
	If you don't know Ginger Ninja, you'd know him.
	He's from our community.
	Awesome guy.
	I see him in the background here.
	He is involved in an initiative.
	Where's your hair, David?
	That was back in the day.
	I've got to see what year that was.
	There were some that were pre-COVID and then during COVID.
	I think that was pre-COVID.
	I was in a suit, so.
	All right, whatever.
	Ginger Ninja, you may know him from our locals community.
	He's doing something amazing that also deserves to be put on blast for the best possible reasons.
	Ginger, you'll see why he's called Ginger Ninja in three seconds.
	Two, one.
	Sir, how goes the battle?
	You look younger than the last time I saw you.
	Lost a couple pounds, maybe.
	Not too many.
	I don't know.
	Thank you.
	You look good.
	You look good.
	Sir, tell everybody who may not know who you are.
	Your sound is perfect.
	Tell everybody who may not know who you are who you are.
	Oh man.
	So I'm in, well, I go by Ginger Ninja Online.
	That was a video game handle I had when I was 12 and just stay mostly anonymous online.
	But anyways, I, Air Force veteran from Tennessee and now a carpenter and just kind of a good old boy.
	That couldn't make it through college, decided to join the military, and yeah, done a little bit of everything.
	It was funny that the guests y'all had talking about the ostriches, I worked, it's like a Napoleon Dynamite story, I worked at a chicken farm for a couple years here in Tennessee, and it was pretty wild.
	I know people who have small farms up in Quebec, but my exposure was the ostrich farm in Quebec.
	They've got a lot of ostriches.
	They're amazing.
	I was trying to say they move like iguanas.
	Someone said they're basically dinosaurs.
	You spoke one.
	They all run straight out of a velociraptor out of Jurassic Park.
	I hope Carrie...
	Those birds are powerful, too.
	Just the roosters in the pens that we dealt with, they were 25 pounds, which is big, and they would just beat the snot out of you.
	We had to be really careful with diseases and stuff, too.
	We showered in and showered out.
	Had a different change of clothes in the facility and everything.
	It was wild.
	My mother-in-law's friend was nearly killed by a rooster because it punctured her femoral artery.
	It got up, used the foot, and punctured the femoral, and she nearly fell to death.
	That's unfortunate.
	Now, you said carpenter, so I'm going to bring this up because, Ginger, this is what's going on.
	I don't know if I'm going to play the whole thing.
	Do I play the whole thing?
	Save that one until a little bit.
	Pull up the...
	Well, you've got some carpentry I did right back there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hold on a second here.
	Let me, hold on, open this.
	This is, something's gonna fall as I do this.
	This is, oh!
	Now, you didn't do the pieces.
	The pieces come from France, but this board, if you can see it, elevated, embossed, heavy like you can't possibly imagine.
	Beautiful. That is black walnut, maple, it's actually slightly curly maple, and the The perimeter there is Cherry, all here in Tennessee from a local sawmill.
	Well, highlighting the fact that you are a, I don't know if you go by master carpenter, you're an amazingly skilled carpenter, which comes into play for the project that you're working on that you want to put on Righteous Amplification.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So, I wanted to talk about, and Viva's given me this platform to the above average community.
	An organization I found not long after I got discharged out of the Air Force, I found them in 2016.
	This group of firemen, for the most part, firefighters, based out of New York, but they have members from all over the eastern half of the states, were building a home for a disabled vet near me.
	In Tennessee.
	And so I knew a couple of veterans and they heard about it.
	And so I went out there for a couple of days and helped them on this home build.
	And it was just in the couple of days I participated, it was life changing.
	And I was like, these guys are the real deal.
	And so, yeah, from then on, I made a commitment that I was going to be volunteering for this organization.
	And so I've been doing that ever since then.
	It's 2025 now, so this will be my 10th build coming up in May.
	We're building a house for a disabled vet.
	And what the organization does, it's called A Soldier's Journey Home.
	And we are...
	100% volunteer organization that the board, nobody takes a penny.
	And we build one house a year for a disabled veteran somewhere in the U.S. And we just try to raise funds to help cover costs.
	We partner with some companies as well that will help give donations.
	But it's all by hand.
	And, yeah, we go from a foundation.
	We show up.
	The foundation's already poured.
	And two weeks later, we turn over the keys to a fully furnished forever home that's adapted to the disability of the veteran, the combat injured or combat vet.
	Okay, so I don't think I've ever asked you about the logistics.
	It's a soldier's journey home.
	Building a home for disabled vets.
	How does a vet get selected to be the recipient of a newly built home?
	Great question.
	So that is above my head.
	I'm just a grunt.
	But the board partners with some other organizations, and they compile a list of veterans in need, and they go through...
	Basically, kind of the qualifications, as it were, the level of need, you talked about the logistics, like if it's going to be possible to build for them in the area, if we can secure a lot, a location for the site, all that stuff.
	And then they do interviews with the different potential veterans, and they kind of go through a process, narrowing it down, and they choose one to build for the next year.
	And if I may ask the, I'm just curious question, including the foundation, what's the hard cost?
	Set aside the time of volunteers, like what's the actual cost of laying a foundation and then materials and building?
	So the, like I said, we are able to usually secure some material donations from businesses and stuff, but we have a large crew of people, as you can imagine, to get a home built, drywall painted.
	Trimmed windows, siding, roofing, all that stuff in two weeks.
	We got a pretty big crew of people.
	So we try to get as many material donations as we can.
	And then it's about $120,000 that we have to raise every year.
	And that's for the veteran and their home and furniture and all that stuff.
	Whatever we can't get.
	And then also the housing of all the people that come in.
	And so we fill up a couple of hotels and they feed us while we're there.
	So all that food and stuff has to get cooked.
	It's an amazing time.
	Three quarters, half to three quarters of the volunteers are...
	Active or retired firemen, firefighters.
	And you do one house a year?
	One house, one veteran a year?
	Yes, we do.
	I say just one a year because the volunteers are taking their leave, their vacation time every year, paid or they take time off of work, unpaid, to travel to wherever the location is to build this house.
	So we can't do that 50 weeks out of the year.
	And also, like you talked about, the logistics and everything is something they get started on right after the last build.
	We complete it, they start seeking out a veteran, vetting process, finding a location, getting plans drawn up for the house.
	It's amazing.
	I sent you...
	Well, if anyone feels like they'd like to participate financially, that is where we're in the most need.
	A Soldier's Journey Home was founded in 2014.
	And so I actually caught them on their second build, second ever build.
	And the group that founded it had already been together traveling around after natural disasters.
	Yeah. And helping after hurricanes and tornadoes and stuff, clearing debris, just whatever, if there was needs.
	And it was out of the firemen in New York, after all the support after 9-11, they wanted to give back.
	And then in 2014, they founded Soldier's Journey Home and decided they're going to pick combat vets, disabled veterans, and build them a forever home.
	It's amazing.
	It's kind of like camp.
	It's two weeks where everybody gets together and they put a house up from a foundation in two weeks.
	Most exhausting camp in the world.
	Cut the ribbon and you get to go back to real life, everybody's jobs after two weeks of arduous labor to build a house from the foundation.
	Yeah. Man, it's the most amazing thing.
	You get to, as me being blessed enough to be a volunteer.
	You get to work a lot of long, hard hours, but you get to turn over the keys to a forever home that will change this veteran's life and their family's life forever.
	And it's mortgage-free.
	They just have a home that, like you mentioned, is...
	They probably should have been taken care of already, but we'll step in and fill in the cracks, and we're glad to do it.
	It's amazing.
	The video that you said play later, this is a one-minute video showing...
	Sorry, I sent you a couple.
	Pull up the one, the last video.
	Well, that one's good, too.
	That one's nice and short.
	Pull up the one of the last video I sent you.
	What was it called?
	A Soldier's Journey.
	Time... There's one.
	A soldier's journey home through the years.
	Through the years, that one.
	Pull that one up.
	That one's pretty good.
	You'll get to see...
	The video is going to go over, before you play it, is going to go over a bunch of the recipients over the years and some little screenshots and stuff of the builds.
	And this is what we do.
	It's phenomenal.
	I don't know.
	Each year we come together to build a home in only 12 days, drawing more than 150 volunteers from all the nation who return year after year because they believe in religion.
	On 24 we celebrate a decade I'm slowly dreaming to you The stars and planets
	The beauty is the way From you I'm on my way
	I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way I'm on my way
	my hand.
	in the kitchen.
	Well, that's amazing.
	Yeah. That's pretty cool, huh?
	Sorry. There's a lot of memories in there.
	It's pretty cool.
	And that ceremony at the end is amazing.
	If you can...
	I got none into the air.
	They live stream the ceremony too.
	So whether you donate or not, if you...
	If you follow A Soldier's Journey Home on Facebook, it'll be live-streamed there.
	And it'll either be live-streamed or posted on YouTube as well.
	A Soldier's Journey Home.
	This is the logo.
	And, yeah, it's an amazing thing, what we do.
	Ginger, you do have a Rumble channel, and you are on the Twitterverse, if I'm not mistaken.
	What are those...
	First of all, you're doing another one.
	In the upcoming near future, not far.
	I don't know if I'm allowed disclosing anything.
	Can I talk about our next recipient just a little bit as well?
	If you feel like participating financially, that's where we have our need.
	We've built a crew of firemen, police, veterans, and skilled tradesmen.
	We have a really good crew.
	Putting these up together and we've got a system down and everything, but we're always in need financially to cover the build.
	Often when we start the build, we don't have the finances to finish it.
	Like I said, that's where the need is.
	So I'm out here taking it upon myself to advocate.
	I'm not a board member or anything, but even if I was a board member, no one takes a penny.
	Everyone does this just out of the...
	The love they have for it and a feeling of needing to return some gratitude.
	So this year's build is going to be in Augusta, Georgia.
	And this is going to be for Army Sergeant First Class David Mathis.
	He was in the Marine Corps and the Army, and he lost both legs to an IED in 2017 on deployment.
	And he was back doing physical training and stuff 18 months later after losing both legs.
	He's got a wife and two kids and works as a part-time mechanic.
	And yeah, he's in need of a home that fits him.
	So we're going to come in.
	We're going to build a house wide.
	ADA doorways he can go through when he's in his wheelchair, office prosthetics.
	He can roll through the house.
	There's going to be space for his kids.
	And a shower that's ADA compliant.
	Usually we also put in a tub.
	The cabinets, the sinks, you can roll under in the wheelchair.
	In the upper cabinets, we put shelves so the amputee can pull those down.
	Sometimes we even install a smart stove top that will lower down so he can cook himself breakfast and stuff and be able to reach it.
	And just a lot of other things that you wouldn't think of needing but will really improve his quality of life and change the life of him and his wife and his kids.
	That's what we're doing.
	Augusta, Georgia this year, coming May.
	The end of May, we're going to be building him a home.
	If anybody wants to donate, $5 makes a bigger difference than you think.
	$5, $10, $20.
	It's a 501c3 as well.
	If you own a business and instead of giving Uncle Sam a bunch of money that they're going to send overseas, Keep it here and give it to somebody who went overseas, you know?
	Fantastic. Now, Ginger, I actually cut you off before.
	Your social media, on Twitter and on Rumble.
	Oh, on Rumble, I'm bad about posting, but I'll occasionally post firearms-related videos.
	I'm right now working up a precision load for my 300 Winchester Magnum.
	This guy, this is my...
	This is going to be my next range toy.
	It shoots pretty well, but I'm hand-loading ammo for it.
	So, GingerNinja1776 on Rumble?
	I think so.
	Let me go double-check.
	I wonder why.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's GingerNinja1776, and I'm not super active on Twitter.
	Mostly, the stuff I share is like...
	Robert Barnes putting somebody on blast or something.
	It's Ginger Ninja 1776 on Rumble.
	Ginger, I might see you up in Augusta.
	In fact, I think I'm going to.
	That is the plan.
	Yeah. Well, you'll have to make a video about the...
	a vlog about the travel.
	Absolutely. Ginger, I'm going to stay live and just do some...
	well, read some chats and then do the locals after party.
	But thank you.
	And I'm going to blast the link around to everybody and I'm going to get my wallet immediately after we end this stream.
	Yeah. Everybody go to a soldiersjourneyhome.org and there's just a donate tab.
	And if you're not sure, if it's something you want to jump on, a soldiersjourneyhome, the YouTube channel.
	Go through there and watch some of the...
	There's like some 10 and 15 minute videos on some of the builds.
	They kind of follow the build.
	The real deal, and everybody...
	We had a glitch there.
	Yeah, it had a glitch.
	We're the real deal, and nobody takes a penny.
	Every bit just goes to you, the veteran, you know, the disabled.
	Ginger, thank you very much for coming on.
	Thank you for having me.
	My pleasure anytime, and I'll see you in my text messages.
	Yes, sir.
	It's good to see you.
	God bless.
	You too.
	Bye-bye.
	Amazing. What I wanted to do was bring up...
	What was I just about to bring up?
	I absolutely forgot what I wanted to bring up.
	Yeah, forget it.
	Oh, no.
	I'm such a senile buffoon.
	I wanted to bring up the Rumble Rants over on Rumble.
	And then we're going to go over to VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com for the after party.
	We got Midnight Queen.
	Says Viva.
	If you're going fishing, rescuing wildlife, etc., you might want to invest in a good multi-tool like a Leatherman.
	You never know when it will come in handy.
	I have so many.
	I've got so many, I just didn't have one that particular day.
	PJParkJD. I know who you are, PJ.
	You got heated from...
	Thanks for the afternoon rage.
	I was late because I was banned from X without warning.
	Find me on Locals.
	PJPark. Papa.
	Juliet. Park.
	Or Truth Social.
	PJ Park, JD, which stands for Juris Doctorate, if I'm not mistaken, because I believe he's a lawyer.
	You are a lawyer.
	And we've got King of Biltong, Biltong Mecca, coming soon.
	Get yourself some Biltong, packed with B12, creatine, iron, zinc, and much more.
	Available at BiltongUSA.
	Use code VIVA for 10% off.
	All right, people.
	It wasn't supposed to be a rage-inducing show, but it was.
	And at least we end with a bit of a white pill.
	We're going to go over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com for the after party.
	It'll be a shortish one.
	I've got to walk some dogs.
	Smelling by the waft of urine in my home studio, I believe Pudge might have had a bit of leakage as she's sitting there lying in her bed.
	Look at this.
	Hold on a second.
	This is what I get to look at.
	Look at this.
	Come on.
	How cute is that?
	Both of those dogs.
	Winnie the Blind Westie, Pudge the Paralyzed Puggle, curled up in her bed.
	So we're going to take the party on over to the locals right now.
	And it will not only be for the...
	Someone in our local screen said, Viva, you're so senile.
	You could serve as U.S. President.
	That was Svehansis.
	I'm going to give everybody the link.
	It's not going to be supporters only today because I'm using StreamYard.
	So you can come on over.
	No obligation.
	To be a member.
	But come check out the after party and see if you like it.
	Locals. VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com Lots of stuff coming up all week.
	It's going to be amazing.
	So, this was a big one.
	Glad we got those two stories out there.
	I didn't want to get...
	I'll talk about it over on Locals with the ostriches.
	Okay, I'm still on all platforms.
	Ending on YouTube.
	See you later, people.
	No, that's not ending.
	That is bringing it over.
	Going to end on YouTube.
	Remove. Remove.
	Going to end on...
	Twitter, remove.
	I had a cat named Snowball.
	He died.
	He died.

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