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Jan. 19, 2025 - Viva & Barnes

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SHOULD TRUMP'S AMERICA ANNEX CANADA? Yes, I'm Being Hyperblic - SATURDAY NIGHT PANEL!

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	Well, hello.
	Welcome to the show.
	I am Jim Ferguson and you're tuned in to Freedom Train International Live for a very special report.
	And this concerns Canada.
	This concerns Donald Trump's proposal to take Canada in as the 51st state of the United States.
	And to set a little bit of background on this, this has really been prompted by a massive response to a tweet that I reposted out from Donald Trump asking the Canadian people What did they think about this?
	And boy, did I get a shock when I realised just how much interest there was.
	Many people saying that they weren't happy about the idea, but many people saying that they were, and a lot of people just wanting to know a little bit more about it.
	So this is your opportunity to join us in a wonderful panel of guests from all around the world, Canada, America, Australia, the UK, and we're going to have a bit of a...
	Conversation about this and what it all means.
	So don't go away.
	Stay tuned.
	We're going to take the guests in right now and then we'll get the introductions made.
	So here they come.
	Welcome, guys.
	Welcome. And great to see you all here.
	Thank you, Wayne Peters from What's Up Canada for hosting this live stream for us.
	I really appreciate that.
	And I think we'll just get the introductions done.
	Maybe we'll start with yourself, Nicola, if you want to say a little bit about who you are and where you're reporting from today.
	My name's Nicola Charles.
	I'm also known as the White Rabbit or the host of the White Rabbit podcast, and I'm also the co-host of the Daily Australian Radio Show.
	Thanks, Jim.
	Great to see you here.
	And of course, Nicola is also a Freedom Train International Ambassador for Australia, so it's wonderful to be here with you.
	And of course, Wayne Peters is also with us on Freedom Train, representing Canada.
	Let's go to Jason Levine.
	Welcome to the show, Jason.
	Great to see you.
	Thank you very much, Jim.
	Yes, I'm Jason Levine.
	I'm from Canada.
	I do a podcast out of Alberta called The Levine Show, cover the legal system, I cover politics, and I'm also...
	One of the guys running for the next House of Commons here in Canada.
	Yeah, well, delighted to have you here, Jason.
	I've been looking forward to having you on the show, and good luck with that.
	I think it would be great to see you actually in the Parliament there.
	It would be a real wake-up call.
	I'd also like to welcome David Creighton.
	David, it's great to see you.
	How are you doing, mate?
	Great. Nice to be back with you, Jim.
	My name is David Creighton.
	I'm the host of Stand on Guard, which is a daily podcast out of Ottawa.
	I'm the Senior Parliamentary Correspondent for the Post Millennial.
	Spent a lot of years as a Royal Canadian Air Force Public Affairs Officer, worked on Parliament Hill, doing a lot of independent journalism today and just loving it.
	Great to see you, great to see you.
	And of course, we've got the amazing Edward.
	And his colleague, Matt, from Died Suddenly.
	Very, very interesting show.
	You've got a great podcast and the amazing films that you make from America.
	Thanks, guys, for being here.
	It's great to see you both.
	Hey, thanks, Jim.
	It's a pleasure being here.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Tell us, Edward and Matt, just a little bit about what you do and the background to the show that you're doing as well.
	Well, I think at the heart of what we do is we seek to tell the truth about some of the...
	Most controversial and deadliest conspiracies.
	We prove that conspiracies are in fact conspiracy facts.
	Usually the things that we talk about actually do come true and we just get to the chase a little earlier than most people but I see we're on an esteemed panel of the same like-minded people.
	Now than never, these people of the world are inundated with so much information.
	We got to fight through it to show that actually what we're doing is producing truth for people and not for our own brand and how many likes we have and all that stuff.
	That's the big thing that I think we need to weed throughout.
	If we're really talking about the truthful things that matter, it's not about...
	How many likes and subscriptions and all that?
	We need to band together because the enemy against humanity, they work together so well.
	We're already getting into it in my introduction, but I was talking with someone yesterday about how do they get their agenda through so easily?
	It's because they have a socialistic mindset.
	And us as conservatives and...
	Sovereign people, we kind of do it independently.
	We have that nature of doing it independently, but we need to work together because it's the only way we're going to push through this.
	Anyway, I'll keep rambling.
	Well, there's going to be plenty of time to talk, guys.
	And, you know, we're really quite united.
	And Freedom to International is all about uniting patriots all around the world.
	And we'll probably talk a little bit about Trump.
	I know you guys are in Washington, D.C. right now.
	And there's a lot to talk about because it's all interconnected.
	But let's move on to Wayne from What's Up Canada.
	Wayne, it's great to see you again.
	Always lovely to see you.
	How are you doing?
	Tell us a little bit about what you do and where you look.
	The consummate anti-establishment Canadian rebel exists out of spite for legacy media and our government.
	So that's kind of my steady go-to.
	Predictable, regular as clockwork, and any opportunity that I have to get involved into meaningful dialogue and discussion with some of the brilliant people around the world, I think it's...
	One of my things that I'm most blessed by being able to take part in, because this is what we're up against, I truly believe, is humanity fighting for itself in this day and present time.
	And what we're experiencing now is probably going to be the most meaningful year in recorded human history coming up.
	Moving so quickly around the planet that this is just one of the many things that I think it behooves the people that have voices around the world to get together and have rational, reasonable discussion on it, because it's not as crazy as it might seem.
	No, and indeed, I mean, going back to Edward's point and Matt's point about conspiracy theories, well, the problem is they're running out of conspiracy theories rather quickly because they're all coming true, aren't they?
	I think Flat Earth is it.
	I think that's the last one.
	I don't know if we'll ever get that one to be proven or not.
	I doubt it.
	Trust me, they want me to make the movie so bad, I'm just like, I don't know, guys.
	We're going to have some people coming and going through the course of this show, so don't mind them when I just barge them into the screen.
	Throw them to the wolves like Viva.
	Viva, yeah.
	Viva Frey, great to see you, mate.
	Lovely to see you, and welcome to the show.
	Tell us a little bit about who you are, where you're based, and that type of thing.
	Where I'm based now?
	You guys don't hear any echo?
	You don't hear yourselves through my computer?
	No, it's good.
	Beautiful. I'm in the sunny state of Florida, the free state of Florida, but I am still Canadian.
	Therefore, I get to have an opinion in Canadian politics and American because I'm a Canadian citizen, but I pay taxes in America.
	And so that's where I am now.
	It's fantastic.
	And I say it's a little not liberating.
	There's a bit of despair and a little bit of sadness to see what is going on in Canada now.
	Did you guys see Karen Gould's leadership race video?
	Yes. No, I didn't see it.
	You have to go look at it.
	It's the thing of comedic tragedy.
	These are members of the Liberal Party now who are vying for the leadership of the party, basically campaigning off the failures of the Liberal Party.
	It's truly stunning.
	Everybody that's in here tonight have got fantastic podcasts and I would encourage all of our audience to follow each and every one of these people because they really are calling it, you know, and that's why I interact with these guys so often because they really know they are truth seekers, they're truth warriors and I'm delighted to see you all here tonight.
	It's one o'clock in the morning, but I've got my can of energy drink here with me, so I'll probably be okay.
	I'm used to being on quite strange times with Wayne anyway.
	He puts me through the mill sometimes, you know.
	But I'll tell you what, we've got a lot to talk about.
	So let's just bore into it a little bit, guys.
	I mean, Wayne, I know that when Trump sort of first mentioned this, it was maybe two or three weeks ago, and I was speaking to a lot of people.
	A lot of people said, well, you know, He's probably not being serious.
	He's probably just having a go at Justin Trudeau.
	And I thought, well, yeah, if he's having a go at Justin Trudeau, that's fine.
	But I was a little bit of the opinion that maybe he was kind of serious, you know?
	And then when he put that tweet out, and I retweeted it, I mean, it went to, I think, just under 8 million views and thousands of responses asking Canadians their opinion.
	What did you think when you first saw that, Wayne?
	Initially, I took it as trolling.
	But the thing about Mr. Trump is he loves to engage.
	And when people are on their back foot is when he is on his best foot.
	And I heard it put on one of the, I hate to admit it.
	Mainstream mercenary platforms that the secret with Trump is to take him seriously, but not to take him literally.
	And I think that is the elephant in the room when it comes to the polarization around the world of, you know, one tweet can change the world.
	This is where we're at.
	A massive amount of anxiety moving forward and people, they can't figure out the difference.
	Is he being serious or is he being literate?
	And I think that's some of what we're going to have the opportunity to uncover here tonight.
	Well, there's big factors involved in this.
	I mean, there's tariffs, there's economic factors, there's national security, of course, and there's been a lot of concern.
	I can tell you absolutely there's been a lot of concern within those close to President Trump about The Chinese influence in Canada.
	We've talked about this, respectively, with a lot of you guys.
	And a lot of Chinese military coming in, going to Canadian bases, taking part in all sorts of things.
	And really, that is quite concerning.
	Chinese police stations springing up.
	Of course, that's happened in the United States under Biden's watch, of course, as well.
	Viva Frey, if I could just maybe go to you, because, I mean, you've got, as you said earlier on, sort of a foot in both camps here.
	And what's your thoughts on this?
	And what are you hearing in the United States at the moment to this?
	Is it sort of commonly being talked about or is it maybe not really caught fire yet?
	I don't have many friends out here that are beyond the realm of the internet, but whether or not it's being talked about, you know, you got the Benny Johnsons, you got Steve Bannons, you got people talking about what's going on in Canada.
	And I said it as a joke.
	They're not talking about annexing Canada because Trump wants Ontario.
	I should say the liberal part of Ontario.
	He's certainly not annexing Canada because he wants the separatist part of Quebec.
	With all due respect, that's not even a dig at Quebec.
	Canada's a national security threat for America.
	And when you hear the stories of our...
	And I'm not saying this, you know, clip it and call me racist.
	Our Indian minister of...
	Not finance.
	Jeez Louise.
	The minister...
	What's his name?
	Harjit Singh.
	He was the minister of...
	Economic development or something?
	Back in the day when Canada got caught for training Chinese soldiers on Canadian soldiers.
	You're talking about Harjit Sajjan.
	Yeah, yeah, thank you.
	And he was the minister of what?
	He was the minister of defense.
	If you get it wrong, you get a big X on your square.
	We're getting names wrong, but the whole issue is Trump, I don't think, wants to annex Canada.
	Doesn't want to appropriate Canada.
	But Canada has become a national security threat for America through Chinese influence, through Indian influence, training Chinese soldiers, doing research with these Chinese scientists absconding to China.
	So it's not because he wants it, it's because they need it.
	And set aside, and we'll get into it probably, all of these foreign nationals on visas in Canada sneaking into America who are getting caught on terrorist watch lists.
	So you have...
	Canada posing a national security threat to America on the continent of North America.
	It's not out of desire, but I think it's out of necessity that he makes the threat so that Trudeau gets his SHIT in order.
	And lo and behold, he does.
	He just put out a tweet.
	In the last six months, they cut down on the border crossings that have been rampant for...
	Eight years.
	So there's a very strategic reason for doing it, but I don't think most people really understand the national security threat that Canada might be posing for America right now.
	I think the Trump administration are very aware of it, and I've spoken to a lot of people, a lot of military, well, the former military, the veterans, including special forces, and it's quite concerning, quite alarming, actually, to hear, because China is not an ally of Canada, at least not.
	Canada, I know.
	Maybe they are allied to Justin Trudeau, but I don't think that's something that's going down particularly well in the United States.
	Let me come to you, David.
	David, what's your thinking about this and what's your first reaction to it?
	Were you surprised to hear Trump make this kind of announcement?
	Not at all.
	I was not surprised when he announced a 25% tariff.
	I was not surprised that the Liberal government did not react in any effective way.
	Justin Trudeau's plan and Dominic LeBlanc's plan remains to spend $1.3 billion on border security.
	Not today, not next week, not even this year, but in six years.
	Donald Trump is not stupid enough to think that's going to work.
	But that's how Justin Trudeau plans any security spending.
	Ten years when he will no longer be here, obviously, and this liberal government will not be here.
	It's somebody else's problem.
	Justin Trudeau is very good at kicking the can down the road.
	The only thing I think is dangerous about Trump talking about annexation, because I don't for a minute believe he really wants annexation.
	He wants Canada's attention.
	Tara apparently didn't do it.
	Annexation is getting our attention.
	But Donald Trump is talking about a border security issue that's very important.
	And when Justin Trudeau says it's 1% of the migrants are coming from the north, Donald Trump, as Viva mentioned, is talking about the terrorists who are coming in through Canada.
	That's what's concerning Donald Trump.
	And this is something the Trudeau government's not addressing.
	But what my concern is, is that the Trudeau government, and they're doing this right now as we speak.
	Is to use this as a us against Trump.
	And us being Justin Trudeau and the liberals and everybody else get behind me versus Donald Trump, the boogeyman, that evil orange guy.
	That's typical liberal strategy.
	And we are on the verge of a federal election which will happen one way or another over the next three or four months.
	And this is the only chance.
	This liberal government has of possibly hanging on to power one way or another is to use this threat of Donald Trump in their favor.
	And they're doing that every day.
	And every time Pierre Polyev or Daniel Smith suggests that, no, we don't want to stop selling oil to the state, then Justin Trudeau suggests that's treasonous.
	And unless you're behind me, you're not part of Team Canada.
	That is Justin Trudeau and the liberals all over the place on steroids.
	Yeah, I mean, of course, we've also been seeing all the talk about Mark Carney taking over, being installed, and of course, he's the former involved with the Bank of England, of course.
	A lot of people I've spoken to have said he's actually a pretty dangerous guy because he's a lot smarter than Justin Trudeau.
	In my opinion, I don't think Justin Trudeau is too smart.
	But Mark Carney...
	Probably is, and he is deeply connected to the World Economic Forum and the globalist movement.
	Jason, what's your thinking on all of this so far?
	On Mark Carney, I'm very concerned because he might end up becoming an unelected Prime Minister of Canada shortly.
	Here in Canada, you don't have to be elected to the House of Commons to become our Prime Minister.
	You just have to be appointed by the Governor-General as recommended by the leading party.
	So it looks like there's a clear path for Mark Carney to become an unelected Prime Minister of Canada.
	And there's actually a couple of maneuvers that he can do to stay in power for quite some time.
	There's a lot of people calling for voter confidence or non-confidence as soon as the parliament opens up because we're prorogued right now.
	And yes, that can happen.
	But it's also an election that's asked for by the prime minister, which would be Mark Carney.
	And it's the governor general who provides it.
	And with a little bit of assistance from Singh, one of the leaders of the opposition in the House of Commons, they could have that election in October.
	Or possibly later, September 2026, according to our constitution, we would have to have it by.
	So with a little bit of maneuvering, we can have an unelected prime minister in Canada for up to 20 months if they move quickly and they have some agreement with a radical left party like the New Democrats, which have already shown a willingness to hold Canada hostage when it comes to withholding an election, non-confident votes, and using our democratic tools.
	So I'm really concerned because Carney seems to be the frontrunner.
	He announced it just yesterday here in Edmonton.
	We had a big storm at the same time.
	Divine, maybe.
	But yeah, here in Edmonton, he announced that he's running for I'm very concerned that he's going to be an unelected Prime Minister for quite some time.
	And of course, Jasmid Singh of the NDP, I mean, he'll do anything to do a deal.
	I mean, he supported Justin Trudeau right the way through.
	And I'd like to come to you, Nicola, if I could, because I know that, I mean, it was mainly Canadians and Americans that were replying to me, mainly Canadians in this particular case.
	But actually, it was quite a lot of Australians saying, hey, we'd like to be the 52nd state.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	I mean, there is some rumblings in Australia.
	I've noticed through the comments that I've seen, certainly.
	Well, I have a lovely shadow banned post on X. I can see it's shadow banned because it's had 23 retweets from 261,000 people.
	I asked, I posed a question last night.
	Australia, if you had to vote in a referendum tomorrow for Australia to become a state of America, what would you decide?
	And I'm absolutely floored that 59% of respondents, hundreds of them, said they want to become an American state.
	But I have some other concerns, right?
	Firstly, I think Trudeau was summoned to see Trump.
	I think that's what's happening, and I find that quite concerning.
	Also, I note, because I like to put pieces together, that before her passing, Queen Elizabeth II really didn't like Trump, and I couldn't work out why, because monarchy is supposed to stay out of politics.
	Well, where is the Commonwealth of Nations, right?
	Where is the Commonwealth?
	This is supposedly not for Trump to decide, right?
	Whether Canada becomes a state of America.
	Where's the Commonwealth?
	And something we've seen over the last five years is actions that kind of proves that the Commonwealth doesn't exist anymore.
	We're not adhering to our Commonwealth constitution.
	We had a national...
	Cabinet through the pandemic.
	There is no national anything in Australia.
	We've got federal law and state law.
	And yet suddenly these national laws and these national cabinets started popping up.
	And I think that we are all under the control of America.
	I think it was Julian Assange that said, stop worrying about your Australian politicians.
	Because they take their marching orders from Washington.
	Now, you talk about Chinese military camps popping up.
	We've got U.S. Army bases popping up all over Australia.
	But the weird juxtaposition of that is we've also had a massive Chinese-style surveillance state installed.
	I live rurally, and I can't go to my first rural traffic light.
	Without being on facial recognition cameras.
	So something really strange is going on and I'm very concerned that all of this is kind of globalism by stealth.
	That's what it feels like.
	Oh, I think I would agree with that.
	I mean, I lived and worked in Australia quite a while ago now, so my hair was long, and when I used to do a bit of surfing, when I wasn't surfing, I was chasing girls back then.
	But you know what?
	I have to be honest with you.
	I love Australia, I have to say.
	I didn't want to come back home, actually.
	Well, I didn't.
	Yeah, I understand.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But, you know, I mean, we're watching history being made, and we've got Edward, we've got Matt down in Washington, D.C. For the inauguration.
	It's a historic moment.
	And I think, you know, Twitter is already abuzz with all of it.
	I posted up just a little while ago a picture of Melania and Donald Trump getting on board the aircraft and heading to Washington DC.
	We are witnessing history in the making here.
	Edward, Matt...
	What's your thoughts?
	What's the feeling like in Washington, D.C. at the moment?
	What are you hearing?
	What are you seeing there?
	If you were to go outside right now, you would not know anything's happening, other than there's some barricades here and there.
	But we were at a gala last night, and there's festivities going on.
	There's balls going on, this and that.
	But on the street, very quiet.
	I haven't seen a lot of protests.
	Last time we were here, Black Lives Matter was everywhere, and you could feel the tension.
	Maybe it's the cold.
	I don't know.
	But it's not electric, as I was expecting.
	Well, it's intriguing, too, to see.
	We put out a post today, and I think that a lot of people are now starting to consider it, is that...
	Last night, we spoke to a lot of people that are both going into the administration or are working for one of the people going in.
	And there was a consensus that it's not the weather that moved the inauguration location.
	We talked to a congressman about it.
	Yes. We spoke to former Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert, among the many people that were at this gala.
	We put a post out today with some of the findings, which was that there's a credible risk of a drone attack.
	In some form.
	A couple days ago, DGI, which is a Chinese-owned drone company, they removed the geofencing that stops the drones from going into restricted areas.
	And it does appear that that has created enough of a threat.
	Maybe it's not individuals who are planning to do anything crazy with it, but it's enough that they can't mitigate it.
	It's strange because we know Trump loves the theater and loves the crowd.
	And to have that as his marching, coming back to regain this for the republic, not do it outside, it's very odd.
	And so we're trying to wait out.
	We talked to somebody who was inside, said it was weather, talked to another person and said, It looks like a threat.
	So it's a strange mood than what you would be expecting.
	But if I can comment on this, what you were talking about earlier with the panel, Nicola, she hit it where I was going.
	I think you did.
	This is an agenda of globalism.
	That's what we're looking at.
	We've got to look at, we're not dealing with administration changes in four years because these people look a lot longer and bigger.
	We need to look at this and not get caught up in the change of these president heads.
	Trump is a different animal because we were at the press corps working with another show when we went to Davos with Trump in 2018 and 2020.
	And being inside Davos, you're just in there with everybody.
	You walk around with everybody.
	It's not press over here.
	You're in there with everybody.
	And there was a difference Of where we're going as a species, as a humanity in the room.
	Like Yuval Harari talking about a change of being a species or changing and being governed by AI.
	A digital dictatorship.
	A digital dictatorship.
	And you know who stood up to this and gave standing ovation?
	Angela Merkel, Christine Lagarde.
	Standing obey.
	They love that, right?
	This is where we're at.
	Transhumanism is our biggest threat to humanity.
	They want to change us from what we are.
	And I'll just tell you this.
	When we looked at Canada, it was very interesting.
	I shared this on your show, Jim.
	I looked at that map, and it was eerily similar to the 1970s map of the Club of Rome, of the redistribution of countries into 10 territories.
	This is alarming to me.
	And say it's a whatever he was doing and he's taking a piss on whatever.
	I don't know.
	I do that and I'm like, whoa, you better be careful because that looks eerily similar to these globalist agenda.
	And that's really who we're fighting against the globalists.
	It absolutely is.
	I have to say I totally agree with you on that.
	Just taking it back to Canada, you know, I was over in Canada about 12 or 13 weeks ago now, and I was across three different provinces.
	I was on a series of speaking engagements.
	I was invited over there.
	In fact, I was there with Professor Matthias Desmet and Dr. Brian Aris from Louisiana.
	So the three of us were over there.
	We were in Vancouver, Calgary.
	Manitoba, Winnipeg, and then I ended up back in Toronto.
	But, you know, the Canadian people are great people.
	And while I was there, I met a lot of friends, people that I'd interacted with because I'd been there previously before with Christine Anderson and Eva Vlardenbroek in Ottawa.
	Now, what struck me was when they said to me, hey, do you want to come down and convoy to the Rainbow Bridge, to the US-Canadian border?
	And it was an easy sell because they said you get to carry flags, there's Trump flags there, and of course we're all going down.
	And I just jumped at the idea.
	So I extended my stay in Canada.
	We went all the way down.
	But as a Brit, I'm standing there on the Rainbow Bridge with all these veterans, Canadian patriots, and there was a lot of us there.
	And then I saw these US patriots coming up, and they were shoulder-hugging each other, they were exchanging flags and prayers.
	And it was a very powerful moment, especially for somebody that's not Canadian, that's not an American.
	Somebody outside looking at this and saying, wow, do you know what?
	I really love to see that unity, because the Canadian patriots, I'll tell you now, I've spoke with so many of them, they love the Canadian people.
	And it was very clear that there was a camaraderie going on there.
	So I think people in Canada and people in America, they're very distinct, they're very different, have their own different ways, but they're also similar in many other ways as well.
	Sorry, did somebody want to jump in there?
	My Canadian friends tell me that they want to join America because they want the Bill of Rights.
	There's a lot of people that look at the good times in America and are envious.
	And I ask those people that want to be 51st state when Trump's coming into office, would you say they make the same claim?
	If you knew Obama was coming back into office or Biden was coming back into office or Clinton or Bush, would you express the same desires if that were the case?
	And I don't think the answer is the same.
	And this is where we have this polarized, emotionally unstable society that's been under psychological abuse from every corner for a decade here in Canada that we can attribute to it.
	It's no wonder that people would be willing to sacrifice their countries for a moment of peace, right?
	I mean, there's been quotes made about this exact same thing throughout history, and it's disturbing that there's a lot of false information or a lot of context that is not brought into the discussion.
	You're right when you bring up CCP is a threat in Canada, and that is a threat.
	To Americans, these threats are real.
	We have to put them into context.
	Why is China a threat to the world?
	Well, it's because America wanted them in the global economic commerce trade.
	So America brought them in and turned them into a manufacturing dynamo.
	And this is not to say America is bad, but where we're at now is the richest, most ruthless people that are...
	This New World Order cabal, they are typically American-based.
	These are American supercorporations that are not just content with buying their local politician.
	Now they want to conquer the entire world.
	So when Trump says, clean up your border, we know fentanyl is a problem on both sides of the border.
	That's not a justification for annexation.
	Canadians want this as well.
	I think what Trump is saying is...
	We know that you have subcontracted your border security to a Chinese-owned firm.
	This is what you need to rectify and secure your borders.
	There's so many layers of context to these discussions.
	Are not making the public space because everybody is running around in panic, fear, and outrage.
	And this is what the globalists absolutely thrive on.
	Order out of disorder, problem, reaction, solution.
	And to Viva's point earlier, when you've got Mark Carney...
	Christia Freeland and Karina Gould, you've got three different flavors of Nazi globalism there to choose from.
	It was Karina that brought the one into Parliament that they all stood around and clapped like seals for.
	These are the people that are running for office, peacocking to the world instead of dealing with the problems that the whole world can recognize.
	Instead, we could be in election turmoil for another 20 months.
	Yeah, I think that's the biggest problem.
	It was Karina Gould that also wanted to excise the entire incident from parliamentary Hansard in a very Orwellian way, which is something I never, never fail to mention.
	But I just wanted to pick up on something you said there, Wayne.
	If there's any interest in joining the United States and Canada, it's always come from the right.
	It's always come from small-c conservatives, libertarians, because they see the Americans as being more anti-government.
	You never have seen that from the left in Canada.
	There's never been any great desire from the Canadian left to join the United States.
	But I would also say, would I have wanted to join the United States during the Biden years when it was equally as bad as the Trudeau years?
	So I think it's a non-starter right now.
	You'll never see any huge influx of support for joining the United States or having the United States a nexus in a military fashion.
	But over the years, it's gone up and down in terms of who would like to see that as an option, as the United States has changed.
	I would certainly not have wanted to be an American citizen under Joe Biden, when citizen meant nothing, when the only people who were getting anything out of the system were illegals.
	So Canada was not far off from the United States during the Biden years.
	That's very true, actually, David.
	You know, when I was there, when I was at the Rainbow Bridge, I actually went all the way down to Washington DC.
	I got invited to the Taking Back Our Republic.
	There was a lot of big names there, a lot of speakers.
	I was introduced to Senator Ron Johnson.
	I spoke to him, in fact, interviewed him, and I asked him, one of the questions I said to him was, look, you know, when Trump gets elected, what would be the very first thing that you as a sitting senator would like to see?
	And he instantly said, we've got to seal the border, because he said there's a lot of other problems coming in from that.
	And that echoed a lot of sentiments that I'd spoken to about, you know, regarding that in Canada as well.
	And there was a, I'm going to ask you guys here, There's a good friend to the show.
	He was on with me just a few days ago.
	His name is Godfrey Bloom.
	He's a former member of the European Parliament.
	He's a former British military officer.
	He's a fund manager and he's an investor.
	What I like about Godfrey is he's got a deep, deep knowledge of politics and geopolitics.
	I was chatting to him about what Trump had proposed with Canada.
	What he said was very interesting.
	So I'm going to maybe come to you next, Viva, just to get your thoughts on this.
	He said, it would be very unlikely that Canada as a whole would become the 51st state.
	He said, but what might happen?
	Is that the individual provinces in Canada, which you call provinces others might call states in America, might have their own sitting leaders within those states.
	And it's possible that some of them might decide to go in.
	And I would love to get your opinions on that, Viva.
	Just so I can correct myself earlier, it was Harjit Sajjan, who was the Minister of Defence, born in Hoshyarpur, India.
	When I'm talking about Canada being a national security threat, it's not a joke.
	It's that there's more people on terrorist watch lists crossing in from Canada than from Mexico.
	But Jim, to your question, it's not a serious proposal.
	I agree with Creighton.
	It's not a serious proposal.
	It's a needle to let little brother know who's little brother and fix up your stuff north of the border, or we'll start imposing tariffs on you.
	And if you think you're going to fight back on tariffs, good luck.
	Canada... It's not a homogenous 38 or 40 million now, thanks to Trudeau.
	It's certainly not a homogenous country.
	You got Quebec, whose federal party is dedicated to breaking off of the Federation.
	They're not going to join another country.
	You got Ontario, which is more liberal, not more liberal than Portland, Oregon.
	We'll get to British Columbia.
	Then you got the Maritimes, which are their own distinct cultural identity.
	So it's not a serious proposal.
	What it is, is softening up.
	It's tenderizing the chicken for dinner.
	And because Trump knows exactly what's going to happen, he knows what he wants.
	He wants Canada to secure the border.
	He might want something of a North American federation, but he doesn't want all of Canada as one state any more than Canada wants to join America as one state.
	You might have Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, who are definitely more amenable.
	They're more Texas freedom life oriented than...
	British Columbia, which is Portland, Oregon-level insanity, then Ontario, which is Michigan-level democracy.
	And then you might, you know, conceptually you could have a land bridge of continental America to Alaska.
	But other than that, it's not a serious proposal.
	What it is is a ribbing of Big Brother saying, hey guys, this is a noogie, and stop pissing me off and get your stuff together.
	But it's fantastic to watch, because within no time at all...
	Trudeau says, yeah, we're going to tighten up the border.
	I've been in power for nine years, flooding our country, not with illegals, but with borderline fraudulent student visas.
	What did they say, Levine?
	You've been following this and Creighton as well.
	I forget what percentage now.
	A meaningful percentage of these student visas don't show up to their classes.
	So you can only imagine they're coming from India, Ghana.
	They're coming from other African countries.
	You can only imagine what the hell they're doing by coming to Canada.
	And then defaulting on their visas.
	And then lo and behold, we have four times more people on terror watch lists being apprehended crossing from Canada to the U.S. than from Mexico to the U.S. and prorated.
	Figure that out.
	Sleeper cells.
	That's what they're creating.
	Sleeper cells.
	There's no question.
	But Canada doesn't want to join America at large any more than America wants all of Canada to join at large.
	You don't want Ontario or at least 50% of Ontario joining America.
	Period. Well, that's a really good point.
	There's something to be put into the mix here as well.
	I think this is like the eighth different time that America and Canada have talked about conquering each other in our short nation's histories.
	So this, going back to the War of 1812, this is really nothing new.
	This has been something that's been leveraged by whatever machinations were available in the day for political power.
	It's not so simple as to just annex or lease to own the neighboring property.
	And I think that this is going to create a lot of discussion around this.
	And I'd like to chime in on what the question you asked there before I let go here, Jim.
	Viva, you're right.
	Quebec, the government there has existed.
	In spite of the British rule for 150 some odd years and are waiting for the day that they can seat their own country.
	And this is, I think, what is the real world effect of this is it's created such an exposing of the weakness of the government that we have.
	And it's opened up the door to more people seeking their own.
	Sovereign states within the landmass of Canada.
	So I think the biggest threat that we have is becoming balkanized, where as 10 smaller separate countries, we would never have an equal footing on the world stage again because Big Brother would be all-consuming even larger than our largest nation would be from that.
	So that's, to me, what I see as the only real threat out of that is Canadians imploding themselves over running around like...
	The sky is falling.
	I think it's an interesting point that you make, both Viva and yourself there as well.
	I want to come back to Jason there just for a second.
	In terms of these students that are coming in and student visas, I mean, just how big a problem is that in Canada right now, would you say?
	It's a pretty big problem because what they're also doing is they're protesting.
	Like if through protests they can gain some sort of citizenship or some way to stay.
	And they're actually setting up camps all over the place and doing that.
	But a little bit larger of an issue than the student visa one is our temporary foreign workers.
	We have 2 million that we have to export or deport in the next two years.
	So there's a massive amount of people here on a temporary foreign worker permit that are about to expire and they're not going to be renewed.
	So we're going to have a massive problem here in Canada when it comes to showing everybody home who just wants to stay.
	And they're starting to use protests now as a way to try and stay.
	And to your question that you gave Eva before about individual provinces possibly coming.
	We can't without force.
	That wouldn't be allowed in Canada under a constitutional monarchy.
	We wouldn't be able to just unzip Alberta and become a state.
	It would have to be done through consent, through some sort of constitutional change or force.
	And none of those are really options on the table right now.
	But what this has done, and I think, I don't know if Trudeau or Trump is playing 40 chess here, but the conversation has now started in Canada.
	What would it look like if we became that?
	And what people maybe are not realizing is they're basically talking about becoming a republic.
	And this is something Canada could do before we do something like join another state, is become our own republic, because we're still a constitutional monarch.
	So everything that people are happy about, like Bill of Rights, First Amendment, Second Amendment, all these things that sound great from the United States side, we can do that without joining them.
	And I don't think the grass is greener on the other side because I wouldn't want the stepchildren of California and Colorado and other states really playing around with my economy up here in Canada.
	So I'd like to see us head towards the Republic.
	And before we divorce the king and then jump to the mistress of the Americas, how about we stand on our own two feet for a little while before we do that and head towards a republic?
	And that conversation started now, I'm happy to say.
	Yeah. Well, I mean, we need to.
	I just want to say, Levine and Crady might know this better.
	I remember it back in 96 when Quebec held the referendum and lost by 1 or 2%.
	Even if a province votes to separate, it requires federal authorization to separate.
	So it's not even something that can be done unilaterally.
	No, unanimous consent.
	That is a very dangerous thing to do, by the way, become a republic, because we looked at that in Australia and it was refused by a referendum.
	But they seem to be operating as a republic anyway.
	And the reason is, when you become a republic, you're exchanging rights for privileges.
	People don't understand that part of it.
	And what the government can do is take away those privileges any time they like.
	So a republic sounds good, but it's actually not.
	And during lockdowns, you saw governments take away privileges because they can.
	What you want to do is hold on to your rights at all costs.
	Well, let me update you on something here, Nicola.
	Our charter in Canada, we have a thing called Section 1, which actually lets the government go ahead and circumvent all of our rights.
	So we already have privileges here in Canada.
	They're not rights.
	In Alberta, we even took a step further.
	Just recently, just a couple months ago, we had a provincial bill of rights, which was really strong compared to what we had on the charter level.
	But they just finished amending and adding the same wording as our charter, which is demonstrably justified.
	and reasonable limits so we just got a bill of privileges on a provincial level too because the government at any time when they decide it can't officiate them or put them aside anyways so we got some work to do there Nicola on trying to enshrine some rights and actually have them or take them back because we always had them but they've been taken from us exactly I think one of the biggest issues or certainly the biggest talking points for certainly Canadians that I've spoken to,
	many of them, well, all of them actually, patriots and proud Canadians, is the feeling of the loss of sovereignty.
	But I want to go back to an earlier point before we sort of explore that aspect of it.
	I want to go back to Edward and Matt because, first of all, There is a consideration from the Americans' point of view as well.
	If you take provinces like Ottawa or places like that, which are very liberal leaning, I guess that there is some concerns.
	I know I've seen some comments to some of the questions I've asked them, where they are a bit concerned that they might end up getting an influx of people who would vote the wrong way as far as they're concerned.
	So I think from an American point of view, Edward and Matt, I think that's probably a fairly legitimate concern, would you say?
	Well, to a degree.
	I mean, we love some of our Canadian immigrants.
	We got Viva.
	We got Chris Pawlowski.
	Yeah, Viva's already...
	He beat everybody, too.
	He's already left.
	We love some of the Canadian immigrants, of course.
	He's fighting.
	I don't know what he's fighting.
	He's already left.
	Is this skin in the game?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	By the way, we're the uncle.
	We're not the mistress.
	We're Uncle Sam, not the mistress.
	I don't think anybody wants Canada as another state.
	We have too many problems here.
	There's so much struggle here.
	We're giving billions away to Ukraine.
	Everybody needs to deal with their own for a little bit.
	People like, like, sovereignty is a real thing for Americans.
	And I think that's what you saw with the COVID vaccine and the unity that brought with humans.
	Like saying, we want to be a sovereign person.
	We want to fight for Canadian rights.
	We were back in Canada.
	We had people from Canada who had to leave because of the protests.
	And we brought them into our company.
	I hope we don't get in trouble for that.
	But look.
	Yeah, that's true.
	It's very hard to get a work visa, by the way.
	Just on a note there.
	But I think where Matt's going to, I wouldn't disagree slightly, but I think there are, I would like for Christian Canadians.
	We've got to bring the Christians.
	Even the heathens can become Christians.
	Do you remember the trip?
	There's no religious freedom to a degree.
	No protection.
	I was doing a film during that time.
	I was trying to find a way to get across the border to help showcase what was happening over there with Pastor Arthur Pawlowski and everybody.
	It was really crazy times.
	I think that's what brought a unity between us.
	It definitely wasn't hockey.
	I'll tell you that.
	That failed.
	I'm dealing with that here.
	But really, that really sparked a kind of a unity, like, we want to help fight for you, but I don't think we want the merger.
	And I think that Trump is doing this.
	He likes to stick his toe in there and see how much ripples he creates.
	I don't think we're looking for annexation.
	I don't even know if that's even possible.
	I really don't know how.
	But I think it sparks the question, and he likes to, like...
	Turn the notch on for you guys to maybe push back to this tyrannical government of Trudeau and the globalists up there.
	And I think that's what it was more than anything.
	But I love the conversation.
	It's very interesting to see what would it look like.
	Well, I think we're interested in the rare earth minerals.
	Oh yeah, we'll take that.
	That's the most honest comment yet.
	I'm in Australia.
	So stupid.
	We got lots of those, yeah.
	Trump knows we have a lot of really good water up here too, right?
	Apparently water is a problem in America.
	You can burn down states without water, apparently.
	So there's that.
	America owns Australia's water.
	Apparently America owns water that is on farmland, owned by farmers, and has been in families for hundreds of years in Australia.
	And the government have sold their water supply and they say, well, you can keep your farmland, but we now own the water supply.
	Obviously, this is part of the WEF thing.
	But what I find interesting about all this that we're talking about, Jim, is that I'm getting very concerned because you've got Canada, the UK, New Zealand and Australia, right?
	So like the Commonwealth.
	And we're all coming down under these Labour, lefty, dictatorial, totalitarian governments.
	And then all of us, you know, we're all here on this chat.
	We're all saying, and I hear people, my co-host on the radio show says that he's a total Trump guy.
	And it's like, you know, Trump's going to save the world.
	Trump's going to change everything.
	Trump's the guy.
	And I'm like, hang on, Trump is not leading Australia or Canada or the UK or New Zealand So is it that they've demolished all of our faith in our leaders, our bureaucrats, our governments, in the entire Commonwealth, so that we do turn to look to this one world leader, Trump, who says himself, I'm the chosen one, because we can't rely on our bureaucrats.
	I mean, why are we, who are nothing to do with Trump, Looking to Trump to save us.
	I mean, that's how bad things have gotten.
	Well, it's a very interesting point.
	And I would go back to what Edward and Matt were talking about with the Club of Rome and that particular sort of structure of nations, the grouping of nations, the 10 regions around the planet.
	And I talked to Matt and Edward about this when they were on for an interview, which has still got to get posted by the way, guys.
	I'm sorry I run out of time today, but it's going to go up hopefully tomorrow because it's a really good interview.
	And the two guys, they were talking about it in the club.
	And it is a factor.
	What you're saying there kind of really resonates because I think there is perhaps a plan in place where we do lose faith internationally.
	In the UK, we had an election about six months ago, Richie Sunak.
	There was umpteen different prime ministers before him.
	And of course, in my opinion, there was a baton handover to Starmer from one World Economic Forum member.
	To his buddy.
	And he threw the election, in my opinion.
	He did as much damage to the Conservative Party in the UK as he could.
	But to be honest, the Conservative Party in the UK is no longer Conservative, any more than the Labour Party is traditional Labour.
	They are a uniparty.
	They're a globalist entity.
	And I want to come back to the Canadian aspects of this, because some people have said, Pierre Polyev, he's going to be the next Prime Minister.
	He's the solution.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm kind of keeping my...
	I'm sort of looking at what he's saying, but I also look at what he said during the COVID mandates.
	I think to a man and woman in the Canadian Parliament, and please correct me, guys, if I'm wronging this, but I don't think there was anybody in the Parliament that took a stand against it, was there?
	That's partially true, but Polyev was the only politician, the only political leader who went down and visited.
	I've known Pierre Polyev personally for 20 years.
	He has evolved as a politician.
	Do I trust him?
	No, I don't.
	I don't trust any politician.
	But he has certainly said some things I agree with.
	He said some other things I completely disagree with.
	But I tell you, he understands that there's a momentum in this country that even he cannot resist.
	That red Toryism.
	That he used to represent to some degree.
	That so many conservative leaders have represented from Brian Mulrooney onwards.
	We can no longer ignore the momentum in this country that says we need conservative change.
	Small C, conservative change.
	And there's just one other point I wanted to make before we forget it.
	This open border that we have in Canada, we've had in Canada over the years.
	is going to be exacerbated on January 21st.
	And nobody even seems to be talking about this anymore.
	Those tens of millions of illegals that are in the United States are not going back to Mexico.
	They're not going back to Panama.
	They're coming north.
	And this government has already prepared for that.
	We have refugee camps going up in Canada.
	Nepean, which are townships outside of Ottawa.
	We've got the same camps going up in Montreal outside of Toronto, anticipating another rush for the border after Justin Trudeau announced in 2017, come on to Canada.
	Our borders are open.
	Immigrants, refugees of the world, come to Canada.
	They haven't forgotten that invitation.
	They're coming again on January 21st.
	As soon as those mass deportations begin in the United States, which is another thing Donald Trump's deadly serious about, they are coming north.
	And we are going to be engulfed in an illegal immigration crisis.
	True, Canada's tried to do something about their legal immigration, although it's really nothing more than saying it's going to be a cap.
	Not today, not tomorrow, next year.
	But our illegal immigration problem is going to be magnified tenfold overnight on January 21st.
	And yes, the Trudeau government's already been aware of it.
	They've been taking...
	I was at the refugee camps.
	They're modular tents being put in place and they're preparing for this invasion to happen.
	I talked about this six months ago for the first time.
	Nobody's talking about this right now in Canada.
	But that's the next crisis coming to our border.
	Well, you're right, David.
	He has talked and he is serious about mass deportations.
	And indeed, I think the illegal migrants are aware of that, certainly in the United States, because there's been footage that I've reported on earlier on today about people self-deporting and they're heading back out because they don't want to be arrested.
	I don't know whatever might happen to them, but I think you've raised a really important point.
	If they do start to flee out of the US, might they head to Canada with the fact that Trudeau is still in post?
	And to what extent might that happen?
	I think you've raised a very valid point.
	Maybe just come back to you very briefly, Jason.
	I mean, do you echo those concerns?
	Well, the one thing I do want to correct is although Polyev does appear to want to adjust immigration and bring the numbers down and have...
	Common sense, reasonable immigration.
	These are kind of his mantra.
	He has come out and said he will not deport, though.
	He has talked about stopping deportation.
	So he's kind of stopped short on fixing the problem.
	He maybe wants to slow down the problem.
	But he has come out and said no to deportation right now.
	And this is one of the issues that Maxine Bernier is pushing hard on because he certainly is saying we need deportation.
	I do want to kind of ring a bit of a bell here because David brought up a really good point.
	And I did a poll just a couple of days ago.
	We're asking Canadians, what's your top issue for this election?
	And number one was immigration and number two was treason because we have foreign interference here in Canada.
	We have some MPs are being protected.
	There's some names of MPs are not being released when it comes to foreign interference.
	There's the agenda, the WEF and all that kind of stuff.
	So I'm pleased to announce that it looks like Canadians are waking up to that portion of things, that we actually have a...
	A problem with treason here in Canada.
	No doubt.
	We see this all the time.
	And I also want to kind of highlight another concern that I have about Trump.
	So I've read The Art of the Deal.
	He comes in hard.
	He comes in hard and then he'll settle somewhere else.
	When he's talked about Canada, Greenland, and the Pamina Canal all in the same wake, I'm thinking Northwest Passage.
	I'm thinking he wants another trade route.
	We're talking about opening up the Northwest Passage here in Canada, and we're still in conflict with the United States over who owns what when it comes to that.
	And we know that China is taking some moves in the Palm of the Canal.
	They may be causing issues We need something northern anyways in Canada, probably a Churchill port where we can get our energy and our goods out to the market through the north.
	And Trump might be looking at a way to come into Canada and say, I'm going to take you over.
	And we're like, no.
	Okay, well then let me help you with the Northwest Passage and we'll do security there and you give us free passage.
	And then we're like, oh, okay, that sounds not bad.
	He might be doing the art of the deal.
	This is in his book.
	He writes about this.
	So I'm thinking about that issue.
	We were talking with this about...
	The Arctic Buck Road.
	Yeah, because...
	We're still going up north, yeah.
	Edward was just down in Panama a few months ago.
	And the Chinese are there.
	And you can speak about it.
	And he was talking with Jim about that trade line.
	Well, there's a very interesting parallel discussion with this because we think about the discussion about Greenland and Canada and Panama.
	There seems to be a resurrection of the Monroe Doctrine, right?
	There's this notion that we want to protect our hemisphere.
	And then we also talk about immigration.
	There is a time in the Monroe Doctrine with immigration.
	Like, we're not...
	We're not neoconservatives.
	That mindset that you need to invade and control and kind of use authoritarianism in the military to deserve power.
	But I'll say this.
	It does seem that if we don't try to have some influence on the countries that surround us, that are our neighbors, and we try to influence their policy and maybe make their countries more hospitable, make them places where people wouldn't want to leave, then unfortunately what ends up happening is all the Commonwealth nations in America are going to become the recipients of these nations.
	The question is, though, do we have a responsibility to intervene?
	And the other question would be is if we don't intervene, The Trump card is in terrorism.
	Then they say, oh, terrorism, so we've got to deal with terrorism.
	Now you're starting to hear the whistles from different podcasts.
	Oh, we've got Iranian missiles coming in from the border.
	I don't know.
	The terrorism button always works.
	It always gets agendas going.
	We haven't been hit by anything since those World Trade Centers.
	I know you're like, oh, well, wait about the next one.
	Well, I'm not even sure about those ones.
	Look, the terrorism button is so easily used, right?
	And we need to protect ourselves, but we also need to see what happens when these...
	Edict starts being used, right?
	And these new government agencies pop up and control our behavior because of terrorists.
	So, look, China is ruthless.
	China, we were at the counter to the WEF in St. Petersburg.
	St. Petersburg International.
	Yeah, they're the counter to WEF.
	We were there.
	Everything was dealing with the Silk Road.
	Everything. And this is China coming in and saying, hey, we'll give you money.
	Let us come in.
	We'll build infrastructure.
	And then we're going to deposit about a million Chinese people.
	So they're slowly making this way.
	And I think Trump sees this and he needs to counter this in some way.
	The Chinese are building infrastructure in Mexico, 50 miles in Monterey from the billion dollar.
	Buildings and infrastructure.
	This is a real threat.
	We're just talking to start the show off with DJI, the Chinese company with the drones.
	They pulled those, if that's true, and they pulled their geofencing.
	That is...
	It's terroristic in a way, but not overtly.
	You are...
	Because I have drones and I fly them in my films.
	You cannot go to certain things or airplanes.
	It's real.
	You take that down, now you have unmanned...
	Vehicles flying wherever they want.
	Well, we can all agree on fentanyl.
	Fentanyl is 100% coming from China in some form or manner.
	Hopefully no one here has been touched.
	We had a staff member overdose on fentanyl.
	It's terrible.
	But even with TikTok, we're looking at the TikTok ban.
	And then we have the red...
	Whatever that red thing is, everybody jump around.
	Red note.
	Such a joke, right?
	It's so silly.
	China's the big elephant, and every country is trying to deal with how do we deal with China?
	Go back to Nicola's point.
	I mean, I know that China has had a big influence.
	I mean, they've been buying up a lot of places and a lot of real estate in Australia as well, haven't they, Nicola?
	Yes, they have.
	And Australians were opposing this in the 90s.
	There was the One Nation Party and their leader, Pauline Hanson, saying, why is there so much Chinese-owned farmland in Australia?
	That's accelerated to the point of ridiculousness.
	I think they own about 50% of it now.
	It's essentially Bill Gates in America, China in Australia.
	But I really get the feeling...
	That we're always sort of behind the eight ball.
	I don't know if I'm alone on that.
	I think there is this greater master plan and they, well, the top echelons, they know about it and we don't.
	And I'm concerned that the reason we don't know about it is to keep us behind the eight ball because if we knew about it, we'd oppose it.
	We depose it very strongly.
	So they're not going to tell us what's going on.
	So we're always behind.
	All this stuff's happening and we're like a review board.
	We review what they're doing.
	Oh, well, this doesn't make any sense and that doesn't make any sense.
	But it makes sense to them because it's stepping stones.
	To a future that they're creating that we're not allowed to know about.
	Agenda 2030, Agenda 21, these things they do right and these things are their blueprint.
	So we do, we educated who wants to read their plans, we have been, I've been making films on it for eight years now about these plans that are coming to fruition right now.
	One of them is getting rid of ownership and getting rid of private property.
	Everybody here has been a victim of that.
	So we're seeing that.
	Now we're seeing Trump come in with a digital, maybe this crypto thing.
	I mean, this is the big buzzword here in D.C. right now, crypto.
	And what's that going to do?
	Are we going to turn the dollar over to some crypto?
	Well, that's just playing into the globalist hands.
	Yes. That is another stealth digital currency.
	And what's happening this week?
	It's the Davos Crypto Summit.
	Oh, yeah.
	And look, this is how crazy it is.
	I like Trump because...
	I think America was behind Trump.
	It wasn't Trump per se.
	It wasn't him.
	I saw people who loved America, freedom, rally together.
	We want to take our country back.
	We needed a figurehead.
	Now, we as humans, we want the person to fight for us instead of like when Moses was talking to God, they're building already altars to elephant.
	I mean, a cow down there, right?
	It's just how we are.
	But what is really concerning me is Bill Clinton was with him for three hours yesterday, and we have the right to anti-vax, everything.
	We should be crying out loud.
	What did I say?
	Bill Gates.
	Bill Gates.
	For three hours, Bill Clinton.
	I don't even know.
	Hillary was not locked up.
	Nobody went to jail.
	That's right.
	He's holding him to account.
	Who is going to hold Trump to account?
	And then I'll tell you this.
	His base wants to speak.
	They don't want to be uninvited to Mar-a-Lago.
	So the ones on the right, they won't speak out all the way because they want to go to the parties.
	They don't want to lose their subscribers.
	They don't have the motive as they pronounce it to the world, right?
	They have a very selfish motive.
	I want to stay close to the party.
	I want to stay close to Mar-a-Lago.
	I want some real justice with vaccines injured, millions of people hurt and killed, and Bill Gates was...
	They had a bit.
	Mark Zuckerberg was ahead of it.
	There's blood on their hands.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if they're trying to play nice with Trump.
	But to me, I want justice.
	And I just see the same thing happening again, unfortunately.
	And I hope not.
	But it doesn't look good.
	I'll tell you that.
	In Canada right now, I know because I talk to lots of people, their rents going through the roof, the cost of living, price of food.
	It's pretty tough on a lot of people there.
	When I was in Vancouver, they took me downtown Vancouver.
	I mean, Vancouver's a beautiful city.
	But I went downtown Vancouver and they said, you need to see this, Jim.
	And I went down and I did a little bit of filming there, put it on.
	On Twitter, I posted it up and it generated a lot of interest because we're not talking just a few hundred people.
	We're talking multiple hundreds of people in these homeless encampments on the streets.
	And you know, you talk about fentanyl, you talk about hard drugs and sex trafficking and a lot of crime that was going on there.
	And you saw the underbelly of Vancouver and it wasn't good.
	And they assured me that this was happening in a lot of other...
	I love Canada.
	I love the Canadian people.
	I took my inspiration from the Canadian Freedom Movement to create Freedom Train International as a global freedom movement because they were so principled.
	They really led the world, I have to say.
	They had it really hard.
	Of course, Australia did, in particular in the state of Victoria as well.
	We followed the Canadian truckers as well, Jim.
	And especially that moment when we were told that they were debanked.
	You know, that was when we were like, okay, this is war.
	That felt like an act of war against the free voices of innocent people.
	I think we also got a video of a Mountie, like, running over a woman who was down on the cobbles.
	It was just shocking to us.
	And that's when Australians felt emboldened.
	Okay, they're doing it in Canada.
	And a lot of us freedom people started podcasting, whether it was just audio or in-person podcasts, on the strength of what Canada had done.
	But, you know, you talk about the price of food and all that.
	It's the same here, Jim.
	They're doing the same in Australia.
	As we say, this is Operation Lockstep.
	But, you know, those homeless people in Canada, there are things that have been engineered to cause that.
	What about those drug vending machines in Canada?
	I've reported on that.
	I mean, you don't care about your people when you're giving away free drugs like that, right?
	I was shocked.
	You're allowing euthanasia for drug addicts or you want to extend it to drug addicts.
	Matt and Ed, just the drone issue, I know it was making the news last week.
	It was DJI updating its geofencing to be FAA compliant.
	And as much as I don't like it, that is not revolutionary.
	Anybody who knows anything about drones can very easily turn off the geofencing and you can fly at your own risk.
	And all it did was sort of like shift back to the user the responsibility not to enter restricted airspaces.
	But also all of the other drones that are higher payload carrying drones than the Phantom or the Spark.
	You could bypass the geofencing limitations very easily.
	So I'm not panicking about that.
	I don't think Trump is going indoors only because of security, maybe, but not necessarily because of the drones, weather mostly.
	But, Nicola, British Columbia, they decriminalize hard drugs while they seek to expand medical assistance in dying euthanasia, a.k.a.
	mercy killings of eras past in Canada.
	I don't know if Canada is beyond the event horizon of cataclysmic despair.
	On that note, Viva Free, we're just going to go to a very, very quick intermission.
	So don't go away, folks.
	We're going to come back on to the MAID service.
	You were talking about state-sponsored suicide.
	It's horrendous.
	I was shocked when I learned about this.
	We're going to come on to that, and then we're going to come on to the monarchy, because they have a role in all of this as well, as being part of the Commonwealth and all the parts of it.
	We have a lot to talk about yet, guys, so don't go away.
	Just going to go to a quick short break.
	Wayne, if that's all right.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Welcome back.
	You are tuned in to Freedom Train Live, a special report talking about Trump's potential for taking over Canada as the 51st state of the United States.
	But before we lose track too much, I want to go back to Viva Frey's point about the maid service.
	And Viva, if you would be good enough just to explain, some people might not know about this.
	Just give us a little bit of background on it, please.
	Looks like he's away at the moment.
	Would you be good enough just to give us a bit of an explanation?
	I'd love to.
	Just due to the MAID program, state-sanctioned murder, Canada has killed more people than Americans lost in combat during the Vietnam War.
	That's not including...
	The 75,000 that have died waiting for hospital care in Canada since 2018 as well.
	So we have a government in Canada that is completely failing everybody.
	And when people look around, they're not going to get medical care.
	They're not going to get help.
	We have the fastest growing rate of homelessness in the G20.
	We have more than a 2,000% increase of people in food banks.
	Our active duty service members These are some of the things that Canadians are seeing while they're also seeing brand new refugees like the Sinaloa cartel members coming here getting $82,000 a year while they're being paid to manufacture fentanyl and distribute it across the continent.
	These are some of the impacts of a failure in government that has created this level of despair in the society that speaking of event horizon as to what people are willing to endure anymore, I don't know.
	Medical assistance in dying.
	I have covered so many reports on this.
	In fact, I almost lost my mother to that because you have to watch them very closely.
	This is a medical establishment in Canada that is completely sold out to the concept of euthanasia.
	They think it's a positive application of medicine.
	They really do believe that.
	And this is extremely dangerous.
	I have talked to so many people who have loved ones, family members, who have been told, no, we can't get your cancer operated on because the waiting list is so long in Canada.
	Our health system is an absurd joke.
	But we can get you made.
	A lot faster.
	How's that for an option?
	That's the options the Trudeau government gives people today.
	No, we can't get your cancer operation.
	You might consider going to the U.S. for that.
	But if you can't afford to do it, MAID is always an option for you.
	So they roll out the vaccines that cause cancer and then tell you you can't get your cancer treated.
	Nice. Yeah.
	I have lost a sister to vax.
	I lost a sister a year ago to vax.
	I have another family member right now who's going through cancer because of vaccination.
	I am sick and tired of this Liberal government health care.
	I want to bring in Viva Frey, and I absolutely agree with you, David.
	We're going to go to Viva, and then we'll go to Jason.
	But first of all, correct me if I'm wrong, but this...
	We're not just talking about end-of-life because the first priority of any government is to take care and look after its people.
	And what I saw with my own eyes when I was over in Canada just a few weeks ago was heartbreaking.
	But they're actually not just targeting end-of-life people, they're now targeting military veterans.
	In particular, those who have been injured by the vaccines.
	But it gets worse because now they're saying to people who find themselves with high rents, high cost of living, high food prices, who are struggling, well, if you can't cope with that, we'll make life easier for you by taking your life away.
	And now, I mean, maybe not right at this point, but I think they were talking about passing a bill in Parliament to say that they could then target teenagers.
	Who were mentally ill or who were going through depression.
	Viva, am I right in thinking that?
	You're entirely right.
	When they had offered it to veterans who called in Veterans Affairs for post-traumatic stress disorder, and then the news broke, and I covered it at the time, they said, oh, it was an anomaly, we've retrained those people.
	Kayla Pollack, Canadian woman rendered a quadriplegic because of her Moderna booster.
	They offered her maids unsolicited three times.
	I won't get the names right because I don't remember them.
	There was a woman in Ontario who was administered maids because she had multiple chemical sensitivity, i.e.
	severe allergies, and she couldn't find proper accommodations to live in, so it was cheaper for her to die and have the state provide the free health that it's supposed to provide.
	The woman who was featured in the Simons ad, remember the Simons ad of beauty and everything or love and everything?
	Why Simon's, a retail clothing store, dips its toe into euthanasia issues?
	Who knows?
	The woman in that video that they'd made a three-minute montage to or a tribute, she didn't want to die.
	It came out afterwards.
	I can't get health care, so maybe I can get death care.
	This is the one that's really, really egregious.
	They injure you through the vaccine mandates, and then they kill you through euthanasia.
	It was an Ontario man granted euthanasia for what they're calling a controversial...
	Post-19 vaccination syndrome.
	Not terminally ill.
	I won't say, I don't know what anguish he was in, but you imagine euthanasia for pancreatic cancer.
	You've got three months and it's going to be terrible.
	Stage 4 lung cancer, things like that.
	This guy had post-vaccination syndrome.
	They don't want to specify what it was, and they killed him.
	But it's a society that has become infatuated with death.
	I may have a middle-of-the-ground approach to abortion, but that valorizes and promotes abortion, valorizes and promotes euthanasia, and then says, lo and behold, we're not growing as a population, so we better increase our population through 97-plus percent immigration.
	And then they legalize hard drugs in British Columbia, and then they want to expand euthanasia to drug addiction, homelessness.
	They ran a poll just to astroturf Canadian society.
	Oh, yeah, two-thirds of Canadians are good.
	For euthanizing, for homelessness reasons, while they have a homelessness crisis, affordable home crisis, it's a society in despair and dismay.
	And in as much as, you know, what's his face?
	Pierre Poilier looks to be the savior.
	He'll only be the savior in that he'll be a cessation of the step in the wrong direction.
	I don't trust him.
	I forget.
	I think it was Jason saying, or David.
	No, it was David.
	He did support the trucker protest.
	When it was popular to do so.
	He didn't support it when it wasn't, and then when it became unpopular again after the Little Commission, then he backtracked and called it sort of an inflation protest.
	He's a fair-weather politician, for good and for bad, which means he can be manipulated, but he can't be trusted.
	On that point, you know...
	Jim, isn't all that Bill Gates' death panel?
	Because this is the problem with AI, right?
	Because AI has no wisdom.
	It just has information.
	So what AI is doing is it's making decisions.
	Based solely on commerciality.
	These are just commercial financial decisions.
	That's what the death panel is all about.
	And that's what's happening.
	That's what the MAID program is.
	Except Bill Gates sold it to us years ago or tried to sell it to us.
	You can't sell that to humanity because we have humanity.
	This was people, as they were saying earlier, that were terminally ill.
	But now they've made people terminally ill.
	Right? And then they bring in the death panels and they're making those decisions.
	You just end up on a list.
	That's what's happening.
	When David was saying that these were approaches that were made that weren't requested for these made panels, that is literally, it's called something else, but that's a Bill Gates death panel made by AI.
	Someone went on a list that they pinged on a certain data set and they were approached.
	If I could just come in very briefly because I just don't want to lose the point.
	You know, you talked about Pierre Polyev going down to the trucker convoy or visiting it when it was popular.
	There was another politician at the time.
	His name is Maxime Bernier.
	And he didn't just go down for a day or two.
	He actually stood with the people in Canada.
	I interviewed him quite recently, actually.
	He's coming back on the show.
	He actually was arrested.
	He was arrested and detained and handcuffed.
	And there's actually footage on the...
	Which I edited into the interview when we did it.
	And then he was actually interviewed on Fox News with Tucker Carlson.
	And it caused a storm because, you know, it just went to show this sort of brutality.
	But the point I was making is that there are politicians in Canada who are standing with the people.
	And I just wonder, you know, if we might be seeing a bit of a rising star at some point.
	Will he be the next Prime Minister?
	Well, yes, if enough people voted for him.
	But he seems to have a real passion for it, and he did.
	He didn't just talk the talk, he walked the walk.
	Jason, I just want to come to you on that point.
	You love your country.
	You're a true Canadian patriot.
	You must be horrified at the likes of the Maid Service and what Trudeau's done.
	Yeah, so the Maid Service, absolutely, because when it came out, it was meant to be for terminally ill, no other solution.
	This was really for compassionate care, and that's kind of how it was sold to everybody.
	But just like all bad programs for Canadians, it expands.
	And it expands in ways that you didn't think about it the first time they started talking about it.
	More recently, you kind of touched on it.
	The term is mature minors.
	So this is when the state says you are mature enough to go ahead and make a decision.
	And one of the decisions they can make as a mature minor is not only this gender-affirming care, as they call it, so self-mutilation, but vax choice and maids.
	So these are things that they're allowing the children of Canada to go ahead and make a decision on.
	In addition to that expanding, it's also mental illness like dementia.
	So when MAIDS came out, it was for patient care.
	You could kind of say it was for the patient.
	It was terminally ill, pain, relief.
	Then it's starting to turn into caregiver care.
	So if someone has dementia and they won't be able to make the decision, so it'll be the caregiver that makes that decision.
	The next one is going to be state.
	So they're going to be the ones that say, for these reasons, economic or otherwise, we're making these decisions.
	Now, don't think I'm crazy because Quebec came awfully close to making a financial and medical decision against the unvaxxed and denied them care.
	So during COVID, we had a province that was really close, and Viva remembers this, really close to denying care to people because of unvaxxed.
	And we had journalists here in Canada that says, get the trucks, rally up all the unvaxxed, and take them away.
	Like, we came close to having that happen here in Canada, or at least the talk was there.
	So for May to continue down this decline, I'm really concerned that we're going to get to the point where the state is making the decision and you'll have like the Bill Gates death panels because there will be doctors saying, well, we've done the calculations.
	The quality of life is not there.
	Therefore, let's go ahead and provide this final service.
	And just before we move on with the rest of the panel, I want to touch on the Maxine Bernier thing you just mentioned.
	Four days ago...
	The Leaders' Debate Commission came out with a rule change that they announced for the leaders' debate for the next election.
	The rule used to be, if you had 4% of the previous election popular vote, and you had 90% of your candidates in the election, or you had a seat in the House, you're welcome to be invited to the leaders' debate.
	They changed the rule four days ago, which says it's now going to be 4% of...
	The polls right before the election.
	So instead of being the popular vote, which is Canadians having their say, it's going to be polls, which are run by pollsters and the media.
	And this decision that came out affected only one Canadian, Maxine Bernier.
	There's no other Canadian in all of Canada that this particular rule change will impact.
	The leader of the PPC party is the only person impacted by this rule change.
	So obviously, even though they arrested him, they're silencing him in the media, they're even going as far as making rule changes to keep him off the debate stage when it comes to running in our election.
	This is the kind of political interference we're dealing with here in Canada.
	I will say that I...
	Yes, of course, I'll just come back to you.
	I will say at this point, I did invite Maxime Bernier to come onto the panel, and he would have been here.
	He really wanted to be here.
	It's actually his birthday today.
	I wished him a happy birthday, but also he had a very tight schedule, but he will be coming back on with me.
	Sorry, Viva, on you go.
	No, I want to clarify, in case anybody saw, when you said, you know, will Maxime Bernier become the next Prime Minister, and I made a face, it wasn't out of lack of desire.
	It was just out of lack of realism.
	I ran for the PPC.
	In Westbound MDG.
	Maxime is the only politician I've ever met that I actually trust.
	The reality and the dismaying reality is there's zero chance he becomes the next Prime Minister.
	The best thing that can happen out of the next federal election is that a few seats in Parliament go to PPC so there can be an actual, veritable, meaningful opposition voice in Parliament.
	People say...
	Maxime Bernier is the Romanian equivalent of Caelan Georgescu.
	He is, except Canadians, for whatever the reason, are in a freaking slumber and don't want to elect him or even give a meaningful amount of seats to the PPC.
	Others say, viva your it's heresy, your vote's splitting among the Conservatives.
	Well... Maybe, maybe not.
	If there was a meaningful opposition voice in Parliament, maybe you wouldn't have an Erin O'Toole Conservative Party, which is basically Liberalite.
	So I don't want anyone misconstruing that.
	I ran for the PPC.
	I have total faith in Maxime Bernier.
	He espouses political beliefs out of principle, not out of opportunism, to his own detriment.
	And so that might be why he's not a successful politician, in that he talks about revisiting...
	The redistribution, what's it called?
	Equalization payments out of Canada running in La Beauce, Quebec, which is not a place that wants to talk about revisiting the redistribution of wealth in Canada.
	So I like Max, but he's not going to be the next Prime Minister.
	We just need to make sure to get enough PPC seats, at least one, so there's a meaningful opposition voice in Parliament.
	Well, you raise a very, very good point.
	And before we move on to the next subject, which is King Charles, the monarchy and the influence that he's wielding, I will say that Reform UK, which was the Brexit party of which I was a parliamentary candidate for at the European and Westminster levels as well with Nigel Farage, they successfully got five MPs into Parliament.
	And I would say watch Reform UK very closely.
	Indeed, at the last general election six months ago, Although Labour got in with a large majority, it was because, in my opinion, Richie Sinek threw the election.
	They're fake Conservatives.
	They really are.
	And they got power.
	Starmer got power.
	Now we're seeing all the fallout from that.
	But, interestingly enough, Reform UK came second in terms of the vote.
	In practically every single constituency across the United Kingdom.
	So you could be watching the future Prime Minister who's currently down in Washington DC with Donald Trump, his personal friend, having a good time and really sticking it to Starmer at the moment, who didn't get an invite, I have to say.
	Always puts a smile on my face when I hear that.
	Okay, I want to go to Wayne.
	Wayne, you sent me some very interesting information quite recently.
	It was to do with the whole structure of Canada.
	I want to get your thoughts because Canada is still connected to the United Kingdom through the monarchy, isn't it?
	Tell us a little bit about your thoughts on that.
	First, I'd like to finish off the point that leads into this, but from the last discussion.
	When it comes to MAID, there is no political will to change this in Canada at the moment now either.
	This is a conversation that the leader of the opposition, Mr. Paglia, will not touch.
	Instead, he campaigns on removing bureaucracy and red tape for foreign-trained healthcare workers to come and join, replace the missing healthcare workers in Canada.
	And at the same time, as our health minister, Mr. Holland, is pissed because he cannot expand this MAID program because he has...
	There's a lack of willing participants to do the killing of people.
	So whether it's intentional or not, we literally are seeing both sides working together in this particular issue because Canadian-born doctors do not want to play this murder in Canadians game.
	So there's a huge discrepancy there, and I think that these are accumulative to some of the...
	I'm with Viva on this.
	I like Max.
	Max gave me a chance as a budding journalist when he had his first leadership campaign in both Quebec headquarters to cover the election from his headquarters.
	And I know why Quebec doesn't want to talk about ending the equalization, because I could still get a massive Eggs Benedict breakfast with all of the trimmings for six bucks in Quebec at the premier golf club, where that's a $40 breakfast anywhere else in Canada.
	That is the luxury that, you know, and I might be exaggerating a small amount there on how extreme it is, but these are some of the issues that are these politicians have been saddled with through decades of collusion and corruption and lobbying and NGOs and corporations and all of these things that they're not controlled by the party.
	So it's very little that a politician can do if they are to maintain within a party in our system, which is ultimately the root cause.
	Without having major reform, what next comes is the question of separation from the monarchy.
	And this is where Canadians are starting to get informed that that That process was actually started in 1931 and never completed.
	And this is something that Quebec, the Separation Party, which is an inaccurate term, it should be the sovereignty party, not a separatist party, because this is in the historical situation of Canada to do such a thing.
	And I think that given Trump's exposing the failings of the system and when we see what's on deck for choices and knowing that the system, as it is rigged, is never going to allow somebody that might actually be a popular leader like Max.
	But I can't support Max because, again, he doesn't stand to snowball's hope in hell against a system that is absolutely destroyed.
	So we're back to that balkanization of Canada in order to search for some measure of actual living sovereignty in this country.
	And when you speak to a federal politician about it, they say, we don't care.
	We rule through implied consent.
	And that is a systemic issue that goes right to the core of the problem.
	So the king has an unfair and undue influence the system that is extremely damaged.
	If I might jump in real quick here.
	Every time we hear about Canadian politics and British politics, and I understand why.
	It's so depressing to hear all the defeats and all the problems.
	But here's the thing.
	Canadians and Brits would be like, there's absolutely no way we would vote to annex ourselves to join America.
	It does seem that some of your problems are just so big that you do need some form of a political revolution.
	It seems like there's no solution, right?
	Because you're saying even if you win a couple seats, maybe 20 years from now, you might be able to exert some kind of change.
	I don't know.
	That's why they're coming down here one by one.
	You know what you're doing.
	The amount of friends I've lost over my participation in the trucker convoy, I mean, there's people in Canada who still believe it was a Nazi, right-wing, Russia-funded legal protest.
	So, unfortunately, you can't wake up people who do not want to wake up themselves.
	And I said, like, you don't need to annex Canada to get, I won't say the best, but to get the tax-paying citizens.
	You've got the brain drain and the financial drain already leaving Canada to come to the US, so don't annex it.
	Canada will end up going intellectually and financially bankrupt because of its pushing out of a great many citizens.
	Absolutely. Look at that and go, okay, well, why did we get to this situation?
	And I think that that comes to successive decades of Bushes, of Clintons, and Obamas that have had extreme political influence over Canada.
	The little brother wanted to do what big brother did.
	And so all of this swamp rot that America endured, which didn't seem so monumental in such a large population and such a large country, are overwhelming in a small country like Canada.
	So, you know, the small country of Canada with their...
	You know, low-level, little-brother-level politicians have, you know, looked up to the Clintons and the Obamas for so long that they've created such a disaster, and now Trump's going to come in and wants to clean it all up, and that's not going to code well for little brother that already sided with exactly who Trump's enemy is.
	I would come in just to say on Edward and Matt what they were saying there.
	You know, in the UK, for...
	The last umpteen elections that we've had, the Conservative Party have consistently said, listen, if you don't vote for us, you're going to let Labour in, using fear and intimidation and a degree of bullying.
	And I would just say to the Canadian people respectfully, if the Conservative Party in Canada are saying, hey, you can't vote for the PPC or Maxime Bernier or any of these other guys, okay, take it with a pinch of salt because People saw through that in the UK, and that's why there's now five Reform UK MPs in Parliament.
	And as I say, watch Reform UK.
	I'll tell you one thing about Nigel Farage.
	He's a really smart guy.
	He was very good to me.
	I know he's not everybody's cup of tea.
	He was very good to me.
	He came up and campaigned in the target seat of Barnsley East, out of every single political candidate in the entire UK.
	I and my colleague in Barnsley Central came first and second.
	So we came the closest to overturning Labour in those seats.
	But, you know, he's a clever guy.
	And if Nigel Farage can do it...
	And if people believe in the PPC or whoever they want to vote in, you know, great, go for it.
	But don't be controlled or told because it's never a good thing when you're voting for the lesser of two evils.
	Just vote with your heart, go with the people that you think you can trust and be principled in it.
	And that's what the Brits did.
	And now we've got five MPs in Parliament, so it can be done.
	I'm sure you know, Jim, we had a reform party in Canada, which, of course, Michael Gerrard said he named the reform party in the UK after that party.
	Yeah, he did.
	And we went through that whole cycle.
	And we went through reform, the Canadian alliance, back to conservative.
	And it is a cyclical process because I think it's a globalist process in the end.
	It's a controlled process, unfortunately.
	But I just wanted to make one comment.
	I heard Freedom Convoy.
	Nobody's mentioned Pat King.
	Pat King was on the stand all week, sentencing coming.
	The prosecution wants to give Pat King, and of course Pat King, one of the organizers of the Freedom Convoy, not the most paramount.
	I've been covering those trials very extensively.
	Ten years is what the prosecution wants to give Pat King.
	The Crown wants to give Pat King ten years for essentially engaging in mischief.
	I am hoping and praying we get a verdict of not guilty for Tamara Leach and Chris Barber next month or in March.
	I will be there for that.
	But if anybody has the gall to give Pat King 10 years when he shouldn't even be on trial, it shows you that Canada is a state where political enemies...
	are hauled before kangaroo courts and prosecuted as they were in Stullinous Russia.
	We've got a freedom trucker here in Australia who's facing 40 years in jail for driving supplies of water and food to peaceful protesters at Canberra.
	I've had him on the podcast twice.
	40 years.
	I mean, all he did was deliver food that was donated, and they're saying that because he was driving his truck at five kilometres an hour, the police jumped all over it, smashed all of his windows, took control of the truck, and this guy was locked up for the weekend, and now he's been in court for two years, facing 40 years in jail.
	And, I mean, it's already cost the family $250,000 to defend him to this point.
	Australia's in the same place as Canada.
	They're doing the same thing to us.
	He was actually on with you, Nicola, during the Freedom Train New Year Live conference, 24th Marathon.
	I thought he spoke incredibly well.
	He's not a bad guy.
	You can tell he's a very thoughtful, sincere guy, young guy.
	I think that's horrific.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to cut in on whoever.
	Who was speaking there?
	I was going to highlight David's point.
	Pat King has had his second day of hearings on the sentencing.
	Not on the trial for mischief and counseling.
	They've had two days, I think they're done at least, two days of hearings on sentencing for non-violent mischief and counseling for mischief.
	It would be a joke.
	The only problem is there's a lot of Canadians who say, yeah, Pat King's a neo-Nazi, guess what he deserves.
	I happen to, I'll say it publicly, I happen to like Pat King.
	I think he's a good guy.
	Sincere, genuine, good guy.
	Everybody says stupid things.
	But he's not a bad guy, and he sure as hell didn't do anything that could...
	Like Dave says, couldn't even justify arrest, let alone charging conviction and then threatening 10 years in jail.
	My only hope is that it sounds like the right blend has been at court, has been doing great reporting on it.
	Sounds like the judge isn't really biting this crap, although the judge has been letting it go on.
	But no, Pat King's a good guy, and anybody who thinks he deserves anything that he's getting is an idiot, and you need to look in the mirror and check yourself.
	But yeah, two days of...
	Arguments on sentencing.
	It's Stalinist Russia.
	Well, look, you guys, we were talking about you need a leader like Trump.
	Trump is not going to pardon the J6ers.
	And this is a travesty.
	Not all of them.
	I think all of them.
	No. Violent and non-violent.
	Look, we were there.
	I was there.
	What's that?
	You're basing that on what J.D. Vance said last week?
	I don't...
	Well, it's a couple.
	I didn't base it on that.
	I've never heard of that.
	J.D.'s statement has been other signaling from the campaign, probably like six or seven different signals since November, that there is going to be a distinction between the two, violent and nonviolent.
	But, of course, Viva, we don't know yet, right?
	We don't know.
	But this weekend, for example, he said the nonviolent, the nonviolent protesters are going to be released over the weekend.
	They made a distinction even in that true social post from President Trump.
	Yeah, we'll see.
	Hey, the proof's in the pudding.
	We'll see what happens.
	Look, I was there.
	I saw what happened.
	I saw how the media were not telling the truth and using it for political party on the other side.
	And when they told people to leave, people left in single file outside orally.
	But, you know, what's a Torrio?
	Torrio. I mean, he's 20 years, bud.
	He's in there for 20 years, and he wasn't even...
	I mean, he was the one they wanted to go after because he was the head of the Proud Boys or whatever.
	We'll see.
	He wasn't there creating violence that day.
	He's a Cuban...
	A son of Cuban immigrants, white nationalist leader of a terrorist party.
	He's a white nationalist.
	Honestly, you couldn't make it up, could you?
	We have our Nazis.
	Look at this guy, his Indian Nazi next to me.
	What has become of our countries, right?
	You can't even get the white nationalists white anymore.
	At least we all speak English together, that's right.
	What has become of that?
	Look, I just want to say this with Trump.
	The J6ers, most of them need to come home exactly, but we're also looking with the vaccines.
	He was so ardently...
	Backing his decision with warp speed, he wasn't even listening to his bass or his crowd boo when he would say it.
	So we'll see what happens, my friend.
	You think Trump's going to let them all free?
	We'll get back on Jim's show and see if that's true.
	I was just going to say, what is it?
	Because I met Chris Barber and Tamara Litch when I was there previously.
	Not the last time, but when I was in Canada previously.
	And then I saw Chris again when he was over at another Freedom.
	A group that I was with in the Netherlands.
	Great people, I have to say.
	What is the current situation with the Coots Four to our Canadian guests on the panel?
	What is the position there just now?
	Yeah, I'll grab that one because that's one of the things I cover here in Alberta is the Coots Four and the Coots Trio.
	So there's another group that a lot of people don't really talk about.
	And that's the people that were accused of being the leaders.
	To Marco van Heugenbaas, George Jensen, and Alex van Heerk, these are the gentlemen who kept the calm between the police and the protesters.
	Anytime the police would escalate, they were the ones that would bring the police down.
	Anytime the other side would escalate, they would bring them down.
	Just two weeks ago, their sentence came down.
	Marco van Heugenbaas, four months, so 120 days in jail, so he's not going to be doing it in the community.
	They took him away right away.
	So he's in jail.
	George Jensen got 90 days, but he'll be doing that in the community.
	And Alex Van Herc, he's going to be coming back because he had a lawyer change last moment.
	And unfortunately...
	They're going to have to do appeals for that one.
	And that was just straight mischief.
	So just to highlight what they were accused of doing, Marco didn't have a vehicle involved.
	He didn't block anything.
	He didn't have a tractor or a truck.
	He literally got on the screen and said, everybody calm down.
	Let's relax.
	Let's work together and be peaceful.
	So he got 120 days for that.
	Pat King, his verdict will be on February 7th.
	So that's the three-year anniversary of the injunction.
	For the no honking that was placed in.
	So I don't know if it's symbolic or not.
	But he's going to find out three years after that injunction.
	He'll find out his fate.
	The other coupsmen, so Chris Carbert and Tony Olenek, they were convicted, and then they were sent to prison six and a half years.
	Chris Carbert is now looking at getting into a halfway house, possibly soon, by April or so.
	They're in minimum security now.
	So remember, they're Canada's biggest terrorist.
	We had to shut down and use the Emergency Act and go after this whole entire group.
	They're in minimum security, and they'll be looking at getting out here soon because they were found not guilty of the most serious crime.
	Which is conspiracy to commit murder of a police officer.
	But they were found guilty of mischief.
	There's that word again.
	And weapons, possession of weapons for a dangerous purpose.
	We don't know what that dangerous purpose is.
	The jury doesn't provide that information.
	But it wasn't to murder police officers because they found not guilty on that charge.
	So it's really messed up.
	We've weaponized mischief.
	And then on the 12th of March, we'll be hearing Barber and Leach's verdict.
	And I'm terribly sorry, but I've been watching all of these trials from Poloski to Salary to the Coots Trio and the Coots Four.
	I do expect at least one guilty, possibly two on there.
	And the question is going to be what the sentence might end up being.
	Because we've already set precedence.
	It could be six months, which is what Carver and Olenek got.
	And Carver got six months, kind of like Nicola was mentioning.
	All he did was move food from one location to another.
	That's it.
	So he got six months for that.
	What about Bill Gates and Fauci?
	Do we think they've been up to any mischief?
	Any mischief there?
	A bit of mischief?
	It's amazing.
	Yeah, so we're looking for some appeals.
	Everybody's appealing everything.
	And then, of course, what we'll see from the Coots 4 is...
	We need to open this thing called the crime fraud envelope.
	So during the trial, there was some shenanigans around the Crown and the police in Coutts at the time.
	So when everything was going down, there was some sort of direction or order provided by the Crown to the police that was illegal.
	And this is according to four defense attorneys who saw the information.
	And this got sealed by the court in Alberta, and it's not being acted upon.
	There could be proof of criminal actions by the Crown with the police here in Alberta that's being sealed and covered up.
	And we can't get into the details even if I knew it because a publication ban could put me in jail.
	And covering the Coots trial, I almost went to jail for publication ban violations just by talking about what I saw in the courtroom there.
	So we take this very seriously here in Canada.
	We silence the media.
	And Jim, you know this.
	You've spoken to a lot of us.
	It's very hard to get even information to you because we could be facing jail ourselves for that.
	Yeah, I mean, it takes a lot of courage, a lot of guts, and I applaud.
	I applaud you guys for what you're doing.
	I will say, as far as I know, the weapons charges, those weapons that you're referring to, they were legally held firearms.
	They weren't illegal firearms.
	They were legally held, as far as I know.
	Well, I'll correct that quickly, because you're almost correct.
	There was just one that was prohibited.
	And according to the gentleman that had that, he didn't know it was prohibited.
	But you're correct.
	These are firearms.
	They all had their PALS.
	They're licensed to have it.
	And they were never shown to the public or they were never used in a dangerous way.
	They were stored properly.
	You know, as we discuss, and I think this has been a great, great discussion, I see there's a lot of comments coming in and we are paying close attention to what you guys are writing.
	I'm too vain to put my glasses on to read them because I don't like to wear my glasses in front of the camera.
	But I tell you what, it's great to see because there's a lot of interest in what we're talking about, right?
	But one thing, let me put it to you guys.
	As we discuss...
	Sovereignty, issues of sovereignty, Canadian independence, Trump looking to come in and maybe because of rare earth minerals, because of Canadians' resources, a very, very wealthy country, all of that.
	And then we think about the Mark Carney's, the Trudeau's, the globalist movement that is very seriously putting in these control mechanisms through digital ID, 15-minute smart cities.
	All of these control mechanisms, they're deadly serious about it.
	They seem to be obsessed about controlling each and every one of us and those like us.
	Is it possible to find a way where, and I'm thinking about so that there isn't necessarily a loss of sovereignty or independence from the Canadian point of view, where you could have Some kind of greater integration.
	Maybe a combined currency, for example, or something else.
	And of course, we've talked a lot about healthcare.
	And we know that there's a very different healthcare system in Canada as opposed to the United States.
	But let me ask you, as Canadians, as Americans, as Australians, what's your thoughts?
	Is there a way, if Trump was to say, well, maybe we could do it in a certain way, is there a way around this, do you think, guys?
	I'll maybe start with you, Wayne, first of all.
	Something that Nicola said earlier, I'd like to touch on that for just a second.
	She said, yes, Nicola, what is happening to our countries?
	And what I see across the board, the lowest common denominator is...
	Anybody that questions, and this goes for America too, anybody that questions or doubts the state or establishment is going to be punished because how dare you?
	And I think that that is the lowest common denominator between all of them.
	And I think when I look across the board at this, it's like, have we become Russia?
	Has Russia become us?
	Because we're living in almost like the coin has been flipped.
	And so at this point...
	Do we have much say in the choice in the matter where if you deliver food to protesters in Australia, America, or Canada, you could go to jail for years and years and years just because you're taking part in something that the state forbids?
	Are we the people, whether we're sovereign in Canada or America or in Australia, going to have any say in the matter whatsoever when we're obviously all of our nations being herded apparently down the same path of lemming capitalism?
	Well, not when the Crown is giving orders and then sealing it and the court won't release it.
	No, we have no defense, right?
	We have no transparency.
	We have no justice.
	We have no fairness.
	We have no common law.
	And we have no honest leaders.
	So where does that leave us?
	That leaves us all wanting what America has, a constitution with First Amendment rights and Second Amendment rights.
	Second Amendment rights, yeah.
	Those are the things that still allow for hope in America that our other former Commonwealth nations do not have.
	So a huge distinction there.
	By the way, is it possible?
	I mean, I don't know because I'm seeing a lot of comments coming in and I'd love to look at them, maybe answer some of the questions or the points of view that's coming in.
	I don't know if Paul's able to maybe pick a few of those.
	Maybe we could give them to the...
	To the panel here to maybe answer them, you know, just to sort of have that interaction going.
	I don't know, maybe leave that one with you, Wayne.
	But a similar question to Jason.
	I mean, is there something, is there a way forward for Canada and America to become more aligned but not to lose your independence and sovereignty?
	I mean, is there a way that you could see where that might work or a way to sort of oil the levers or smooth the path, whatever expression you want to call it?
	Is there a way to do that, do you think?
	There actually is.
	Okay, so under the Canadian Constitution, each province can enact its own constitution.
	So we don't have to even change our system.
	We just have to enact it through our parliament or legislation here.
	And Danielle Smith has been doing some decent moves that I was actually impressed with.
	I've been a hard critic of Danielle over the last couple of years, rightfully so in my opinion.
	But she's made some good moves by talking to Trump.
	She's down there.
	She's going to be at his inauguration.
	And she's already kind of circumventing around Ottawa to already work some deals with Alberta to the U.S. directly and trying to find ways to get that done.
	So here's what I think she's going to be able to do.
	Wet our whistle to have a little bit more sovereignty on the provincial side.
	And maybe Albertans will say, hey, look, let's go ahead and put in our own constitution.
	Let's enshrine our Bill of Rights into a foundational document like a constitution.
	Let's go ahead and elect our judges and sheriffs and high officials, which...
	We can do all of this.
	We don't need a constitutional change in Canada to actually do this.
	We can be more Republic-like.
	For example, our court's called the King's Bench, the Court of King's Bench.
	Let's just call it Superior Court.
	Let's take down the King's Pitcher.
	We don't really need it.
	And let's avoid doing the ceremonial things because they're just pompous.
	Let's just be more republic-like.
	Let's act like a state without actually changing the entire country.
	If we did that, I think provinces like Quebec, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and even BC, because a good chunk of BC is conservative, especially in the north, they may see this as an opportunity to go ahead and...
	Go ahead and develop your resources.
	Go ahead and develop your markets and go to a global stage where we really didn't have that opportunity before.
	So maybe the path forward is what Daniel Smith is doing now.
	Have some direct connections to America.
	Go talk to Trump and see how we can do some work together on energy.
	And maybe that will whet our whistle a little bit more where we don't need Ottawa to take care of those kind of issues with us anymore.
	And we'll start doing it more independent.
	We don't have to leave Canada to be republic-like or have some direct democracy tools.
	We literally just need to have a referendum and say we want it here in Alberta.
	So I'm pushing for that.
	I put a proposal for Alberta up on my substack, which is a step-by-step plan on how to become more republic-like with a provincial constitution.
	Great. I mean, really interesting points.
	David, if I could maybe come to you really with the same sort of question and get your own thoughts on that and obviously comment on what Jason said there.
	Yeah, like many things Jason said, I would say, though, in terms of our relationship with the United States, we can have an economic union to some degree.
	And I would even say a shared dollar.
	That might not be a bad idea.
	We already have a military that is joined at the hip.
	And as an ex-military person, I spent so many years in the United States as an exchange officer working with the Americans.
	The Americans love our military.
	We're not only joined through NATO and NORAD, but through a Continental Defense Agreement.
	So that relationship already exists.
	But to get on to what Jason is saying here, the problem with Canada is that we were a confederation.
	That's what formed Canada.
	We were a confederation of confederated provinces, meaning we were a decentralized government where the provinces were supposed to have a certain degree of autonomy.
	Over the years, that autonomy has been taken away, that's been eroded.
	And we need to take that power back.
	Now, I am so happy with what Daniel Smith is doing.
	And unlike Jason, I've been a huge fan of Daniel.
	I've known Daniel.
	Over 20 years, we both worked at the Calgary Herald.
	I think she's doing a fantastic job as the Premier of Alberta.
	She's easily the best Premier in this country.
	Yes, I disagree with some of the things she's done in healthcare.
	But we can't have perfection in any Premier or any politician.
	And she's taken real risks.
	We can demand it, but we may not expect it.
	I appreciate what she's doing.
	But what she's doing right now, she's standing up for Alberta, and in doing so, she's standing up for Canada by saying, no, the federal government does not have control or the authority to sell or not to sell our oil and gas to the Americans.
	That's our right.
	And in doing so, she's not just standing up for Alberta.
	She's standing up for Canada because that's what Canada is about, a decentralized federation where provinces have rights and provinces have autonomy.
	And Daniel Smith seems to be the only premier in Canada who understands that.
	God knows the Ontario Premier, Doug Ford, is in the pocket of Justin Trudeau.
	Every time Justin Trudeau needs a friend, he reaches for so-called faux-conservative Doug Ford.
	Doug Ford comes to his side and says, yes, Justin, we support you on mandates.
	We support you on your authoritarian COVID program.
	We support you in the Emergencies Act.
	And we support you on putting these useless electric vehicle plants all throughout Ontario, which are all now failing.
	I want to see Doug Ford go down to defeat, but I don't know what on earth is going to replace him.
	But I can tell you this about what's happening in Alberta right now.
	It's not just about Alberta.
	It's about what Canada really is about, which is a decentralized confederation.
	Interesting points, David.
	I'm happy to hear you say that, David.
	Yeah, I think that will resonate with a lot of people.
	Let me go to you, Biva Frey.
	Once again, you know, same question.
	Is there a way to keep Canadian sovereignty but maybe become more closely aligned with America for everybody's benefit?
	Almost, in a sense, Bypassing these globalists, because I think most people I've spoken to in Canada, and indeed in America, they don't like the Carnies, they don't like the Trudeaus, they don't like the Christie Freelands, because they know what they are.
	They're not in favour of the Canadian people.
	They are pursuing a dark globalist agenda.
	But, Biva, what's your thoughts on this?
	Well, I want to just clarify one thing, going back to Quebec and euthanasia, that at one point in time...
	Euthanasia accounted for 7% of the total death in the province of Quebec, which is like the third leading cause of death, government-sanctioned killings.
	Just so everybody understands that.
	They had to pull it back when that became publicized.
	I've been saying this.
	As far as what Trump wants, he doesn't want Canada as a 51st state or 51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th.
	What he wants is national security and, I believe, securing shipping routes or...
	Communications or, you know, routes via the Arctic.
	And so on the one hand, nobody in North America wants a European Union type agreement.
	No one in North America also wants a Balkanization where everybody becomes these, you know, tiny centralized countries.
	So you can have something like a NAFTA type cooperation agreement where countries retain their national sovereignty, but collaborate on a geopolitical scale.
	And so that's what Trump wants.
	That's what I think everyone in North America should want.
	You know, if North America collaborated in terms of energy, food, technology, we would need China for nothing.
	We would need Russia for nothing, which means we would need war with Russia for nothing.
	We would need India for nothing.
	And so that type of collaboration, I think, is what's at issue here.
	You don't want a European Union.
	You don't want it to only be about free trade.
	You do want a geo...
	Political North American collaboration without relinquishing sovereignty or national identity.
	And I think you can get that very easily.
	And I think that's what Trump is jockeying for and jostling for.
	And I think that's what we're going to arrive at in due time.
	But everyone likes to kick and scream and you've got a media that is trying to sabotage all of this because I do, you know...
	Carney's not just a globalist.
	Christopher Freeland is not just a globalist.
	Trump, not Trump, Trudeau is not just a globalist.
	These people are WEF stooges.
	And so they want to sell Canada down the river for the national globalist interest and not for the relatively localized national interest.
	But I think people are getting wise to it.
	I think Trump is jockeying for it.
	You have a North American alliance, call it whatever you want to call it, that's more palatable than a union.
	And you get the best of every world there, which is national independence, national security.
	not relying on foreign adversarial nations for energy, medicines, technology.
	And you bring it home and everybody retains their states, their provinces, their federation, and their security.
	I think there's a lot...
	Sorry, Wayne.
	I was just going to say, before I go to Edward and Matt, because there's a couple of things from an American point of view that I'd like to ask them.
	Wayne, is there any questions that you want to sort of refer to from people that are watching this, tuning in right now?
	I think there's a major flaw in the discussion, and Viva hit the nail on the head with these World Economic Forum stooges.
	Canada and the entire media enterprise, including the Trump administration, seems to be all focused on Chinese foreign influence, when if you put the same metrics And this is seriously missing because they're...
	as legitimate business people because they wear suits and they're supported by the IMF.
	Suspicious by emission, Wayne.
	Suspicious by emission.
	forum members, our entire 338 would be considered compromised and go to jail.
	And this would include the leader of the opposition, Pierre Polyev, having signed on to agreements like the Paris Accords and the Migration Compact that he has stated that he will not relink So if Trump is going to take on the globalist swamp and say no to them, that means...
	Our entire Canadian political system is going to have to be changed out because they have all signed on to the dotted lines and refused to acknowledge the conversation.
	This is the elephant in the room.
	So, you know, it's not just a system.
	It's the system that has been captured by unelected foreign entities that nobody wants to address.
	And these are the conversations, you know, that if Trump was saying to the world...
	Clean out the globalists out of your country.
	I think it would be a very different discussion than clean up your borders or you can become the 51st state.
	But at the end of the day, I think he's coming to a similar conversation.
	It's very interesting.
	Sorry, Nicola.
	I was just going to say, because I want to come back to a point you made earlier on, Nicola.
	Really interesting point, Wayne.
	Indeed, once again, I was tweeting again today and put out a post where he talks about the globalists.
	And he's talking in not unfavorable terms, and he's talking about, I can't remember the exact quote, I apologize, but he was basically saying, you know, he is very anti-globalist, and he used that term.
	And he talked about the communists as well.
	And there is a strange, I don't know, it's a very strange mix within the World Economic Forum, the globalist movement.
	There's sort of a strange blend of communism and fascism.
	Also a very, very strange connection to China, it would appear.
	A lot of them, like Nobel Yuval Harari, have often referred to China as being the model that they would like to see implemented worldwide, globally.
	So maybe Big Bad Russia is not the ones that we should be watching.
	In fact, I've often thought they're not, but China could be.
	And I think those...
	On you go.
	When you look at the source of the root of that globalism, we're seeing BlackRock and all of these entities dumping the ESG, DEI, climate conundrum.
	Why? Because that is the globalism methodology.
	Here's the difference.
	So the corporations can do that on a dime without repercussions.
	The policymakers and the politicians, they cannot make those about faces on the dime, on the nickel, because it's their names that are on the bottom lines of these.
	So this is where politics is a long ways behind the corporations that are pulling the strings behind the globalism that Trump's at war with.
	Let me just go to Edward and Matt very briefly and then I'm going to come to you, Nicola.
	We've got President Trump-elect.
	He's going to be literally a day and a bit now.
	He's going to be in office, in the Oval Office.
	He'll be in power.
	What's the first things do you think that he should be doing, guys, in your opinion?
	Pulling all the vaccines that are destroying Americans in the world.
	The mRNA technology is a Pandora's box that needs to be reeled in.
	These are maiming and killing so many people.
	But that's not his thing.
	His thing is a business.
	He's a businessman.
	And being in Davos and seeing him come down those stairs and hearing a pin drop.
	It was a very interesting thing.
	We were there in 2018 in Davos.
	No one said anything until he came walking down those stairs.
	And then he strong-armed all these businesses to invest in America.
	He wants to bring riches to America.
	That's why the Greenland thing...
	I believe it.
	I think that's a way that you show dominance.
	And what did President Trump do 100 years ago?
	Oh, he brought new land to America.
	So I'm not going to say it's not out of the question of doing that.
	But I'm so dug in with this because of seeing all these films I've done to see the devastation and the lack of...
	People being prosecuted.
	It's a real thing.
	And we're just seeing the beginnings of this, of the MRNA technology.
	And Trump's with Bezos and Mar-a-Lago, and then he's with Bill Gates, and then he's got Elon.
	So he's kind of building the Billionaires Boys Club right now.
	It's very interesting.
	I know there's strategic reasons to do so.
	Governments used to be you wanted to get the governments because they held the money.
	But in the early 1900s, it wasn't the governments.
	It was the Rockefellers.
	It was the Vanderbilt.
	They had the money and the power.
	So that's why presidents stuck to them and wanted to get them on their sides because then that's how things would get passed and dealt with.
	I hope he stays out of this globalist agenda.
	That's where I see the biggest thing here, is the biggest push for control.
	China's kind of the outlier right now, but they understand that.
	They're independent of this, but are used in certain, like, for COVID.
	COVID was brought out there because you're not going to fight with China.
	It's the boogeyman.
	There's always a boogeyman needed.
	Russia is no longer the boogeyman that we had to fight, and we're scared of nuclear bombs and all this.
	Now it's China.
	But now, When you really look at it, for me, the United Nations is our biggest enemy, and they're in New York.
	We need to get them the hell out of here.
	Because traveling the world and seeing things that shouldn't have the SDGs, the 17 Sustainable Goals, we're everywhere.
	That little pin that they wear is the new Nazi symbol.
	And that's our biggest enemy right now.
	And that's just because I've seen it.
	Do you think he, How quickly do you think he'll pull out of the World Health Organization?
	The right people involved.
	I'm doing a film right now for Maha.
	It's going to be released in February, and that's a big thing.
	He went across the aisle with that.
	RFK Jr. is weird.
	We just saw Tulsi yesterday at the place we were at.
	These are not Republicans, which is a good thing.
	I want as many people who are pro-humanity.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I have to say, I'm a big fan of Tulsi Garbert.
	I've always liked her.
	We're seeing this kind of renaissance of, like, different aisles coming, people from the other side of the aisles kind of coming together with this administration.
	That's good.
	And one thing I want to tell you, you talk about euthanasia, right?
	We have that here.
	It's called hospice.
	And you just think, it's not mandated.
	But hospice, I just interviewed a doctor for the film.
	He had, during COVID, people were being sent to hospice to be killed when they had a cold or a fever.
	This is how diabolical it was.
	And that was to increase the numbers to this fake pandemic, to get those up, to scare the people, to get this vaccine into people.
	And when you boil it all down, it's all about depopulation.
	My film, Died Suddenly, wasn't about clots coming out of cadavers that I was filming.
	It was about Malthusian mindsets.
	And the Malthusian mindset is alive and well, and they believe there's too many of us, and there's not enough of these resources.
	And that brings us into the fourth industrial revolution, where automation comes in, and there's going to be less of us that they are going to be able to have a use for.
	So that's our biggest threat right now.
	They've often talked about the useless eaters.
	I think that's why they have such a disdain for our elderly, because they see them as no longer relevant, despite the fact they've worked all their lives, they've paid their taxes, they've contributed to society, and this is the way they treat them.
	We saw that under Matt Hancock in the UK, the dreadful appalling treatment.
	Midazolam Matt, as he's known as, I'm sure you guys will know.
	I have a lot of...
	A lot of scientists.
	I had Dr. Simon Godek on.
	He's a really good guy.
	He's in Brazil at the moment.
	He was talking to me a lot.
	His interview is just about to get posted up.
	And I mean, I talk to doctors all the time.
	I have them on the show all the time.
	Professors, people who are really top of their game.
	People like Dr. Peter McCulloch, you know, in the States and many others.
	And to be honest with you, I came to the conclusion there's something very dark, very, very, very dark.
	And this is relevant, by the way, to what we're talking about, about Canada, its future, America, their future, perhaps together.
	This is really a war on humanity.
	And we do need strong leaders who will take a principled stand and do what's right for their own people.
	But what you're saying there about the likes of Bill Gates, that's quite troubling for me to hear.
	I don't like the thought of Trump sitting down anywhere near...
	Bill Gates.
	That concerns me.
	I would imagine that Trump will be well advised this time round.
	I mean, I'm not, you know, I like Trump, okay, and I've never made any secret of the fact that I admire him.
	Yes, I know he's got his faults the same as we all do, and I've got plenty of them, but he loves America and he loves the American people.
	I have a lot of respect for anybody who is a patriot for their own people and their own particular countries.
	You know, he got bad advice.
	He got bad advice from Birx and Fauci and some of these awful people.
	I think, if I'm reading things right, and certainly RFK has written a lot of books about them, almost in a prosecutorial type of way of writing as a lawyer, he's no fan of Tony Fauci.
	Do you think we might see justice?
	And let me give that one back to Matt and Edward.
	What do you think, guys?
	No. No one's going to jail.
	Fauci might be a scapegoat to a degree, but they never go to jail.
	They never do.
	Or they wind up in a cell and then mysteriously hang themselves and videotapes gets lost.
	I mean, this is par for the course.
	What I try to do is just warn as many people in my films to truths that are not coming out there and to show that there are people out there who hate you just for being a lie.
	And they have an agenda that is so ruthless and is so deadly to us that Trump's not going to do it himself.
	We need to embolden people to, if they're around to, to advise him, to show him.
	We were with this group, Mothers for America.
	She showed Trump, the film of mine died saying clips of that in the Oval Office she shared with me yesterday.
	That's an amazing thing.
	So blessed, you know, that made some kind of change and thing.
	And I think that's what we're doing right now.
	And when we come together and we vocalize and we come together like this, it just spreads.
	And it's so important that we keep this going.
	But what I feel, what I fear the most is that this thing that we're doing right now, this free internet, that is the thing that they have to stop.
	And when they have regulations on that or you have to put in your little code or whatever, that's going to be a very dangerous time because we don't own this little area we're on right now.
	They do.
	And they know this.
	So you're going to see a big push to ownership of these.
	And then maybe we get Elon Musk's little satellite dishes.
	I don't know.
	Well, I've got to say, I've got to say, I do use Starlink, and I've never had any issues with it.
	I like it.
	I also happen to like Elon Musk.
	And I'll be honest with you, if it wasn't for Elon Musk, none of us would ever have met.
	Because I didn't post into the old regime.
	I knew what would happen.
	But as soon as I saw that changing, I got back on.
	And I had a tiny channel.
	I mean, I think I had 1,800 people on it.
	After my campaigning with the Brexit party, I'd only started the account in May.
	May 2019.
	And I wasn't really that bothered about social media.
	I used to do a lot of business, but it was more traditional types of business and marketing and whatnot.
	But Elon Musk has given the...
	People, their voices back.
	And he's incredibly popular in the UK because he's calling out our globalist Prime Minister, Starmer, like you wouldn't believe.
	I mean, he has really rattled the cages.
	You know, Jim, who we saw in Davos was his brother walking around with his big cowboy hat.
	So, look, his brother was in Davos and mingling around with everybody.
	So, be careful with Elon as well, too.
	I mean, I like what even...
	No one's the perfect guy.
	You're correct.
	Yes, that's true.
	But we've got to give credit where credit's due.
	And I think that certainly he has really rocked the Starmer government in the UK.
	I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, he's got them on the ropes.
	I was very surprised when he retweeted out a couple of my posts quite recently within the last four or five days as well.
	So when LMS retweets you, it gets a lot of views, you know.
	I think one of them went up to about 25 million, the other one was up about 26 or something crazy.
	But the thing is...
	You know, he is putting a lot of pressure, especially with the grooming gangs or rape gangs, quite honestly, is the more accurate term for what's happened in Rotherham and other English cities.
	And it's really appalling to see that Starmer will not give a national inquiry.
	I know that you're no fan, Nicola, of Keir Starmer either, are you?
	No, I've renamed it from Great Britain to Rape Britain.
	And that's what Starmer's done to it.
	But listen, I've got to shoot off soon, but there's a couple of things I wanted to say.
	Firstly, I believe globalism...
	Globalism is a fraud, right?
	Because globalism is only globalism for them commercially.
	When it comes to us, there is no globalism, and you only need to look at the censorship of news into Canada to see that there is no globalism, right?
	It's not globalism when it's not a fair transference.
	So the whole concept of, you say, attack the globalists, they're not globalists.
	That's another word that they've hijacked.
	And when it comes to Bill Gates, we've got to stop believing this small gene pool of billionaires and trillionaires and bankers know what they're doing and have our best interests at heart.
	So we've been told in my lifetime that Bill Gates is apparently an expert on software, the software that he puts into your new computer and then mysteriously has viruses and you need more of his software to get rid of the viruses.
	So he's the software computer guy.
	Now he's come out and he's the guy who knows about vaccines and healthcare.
	Now, what's he done?
	You know, he's cured one thing and put viruses or whatever they are for other things inside the human body for which you'll probably need another one of his products to get rid of.
	Now we're being told he's an expert on digital currency and digital ID.
	Let me tell you, Bill Gates trialed this in India and 800 million Indians who use trust of the government and put their iris scan and thumbprints into the digital ID system had them hacked and they were for sale on the internet for as little as $8 and somebody bought all of them for 80,000 and there are rumors that that was Bill Gates as well.
	So everything he's done has been proven to be fraudulent.
	I hope you're right, Jim, that Trump's all over Bill Gates and knows all about him.
	The problem is, you know, he is related via his mother to the Rothschild banking family, Bill Gates, and Trump is a businessman, so he relies on the banks.
	And so I feel like almost when I saw Bill Gates shake the hand of the Queen at the beginning of this pandemic and the Brits chased him down the road, pelting the car, screaming murderer at him, I feel like Bill Gates has been given something that really should only be given to 007, and that's a license to kill.
	Because that's what that guy's been given.
	And he's behind MADE, he's behind the vaccines, he's behind the engineered pandemics.
	And look, do I think he's the great mastermind behind it all?
	I don't know.
	I see him more as a hitman who came along and said, yes, I will do this for you if I can profit from him.
	We need to stop Bill Gates and Trump needs to stand up and do something about it.
	Even if it's as soft as...
	Bill Gates exits stage left and we don't see or hear from him again.
	That would be a dream come true.
	And then at the other end, you know, seriously look into any criminal shenanigans because this infected DNA stuff, this is an attack on humanity and we're not allowed to use that kind of language.
	Well, I mean, just hold those thoughts.
	Nicola, I know you're going to have to shoot off.
	I would like to sort of, I just realised we're coming up to the, not far off the three-hour mark, so we will have to sort of start to look at wrapping it up.
	Are you all right to stay on for a little while yet until we get round, everybody?
	Five minutes.
	Five minutes.
	All right.
	Well, let me pull it forward.
	Let me pull it in then.
	Okay, Nicola, we've had your points.
	You made some really good points.
	Let me go to David Craden then.
	Just a couple of minutes, David, just to sort of give your final thoughts on where we're at, and then I'm going to address the actual audience who's tuning in just now.
	So, David, on you go.
	Well, I think what we've done tonight is offer people hope because this is what people need right now.
	It's an essential idea that there is momentum out there that can override this globalist agenda.
	We all know why this is happening.
	We all know who's responsible for this.
	But what has struck me in the last couple of weeks is a dawning realization that maybe Donald Trump isn't quite as perfect as we thought.
	Maybe he's not going to deliver.
	On all of the messages that he said he was going to do so on.
	And just like we were saying in Canada, Pierre Paliyev will be the next prime minister.
	And I think that's a good thing, to a point.
	Because as well, Maxime Bernier is a personal friend of mine.
	He's been on my show many times.
	I love the guy.
	And if it was my choice, he would be the next prime minister.
	But he's not going to be.
	We have to make do with what we have.
	The theme of my show every day is resolve to resist.
	And we have to continue to do that no matter who is in power in Canada or the U.S. Whether it's Pauliev in Canada and it's Trump in the U.S., we have to continue to put the pressure on.
	And I like what Viva Frye said earlier about having a few real opposition MPs in the House of Commons from the PCP because we need to keep these people honest.
	Whether it's Polyev in Canada or whether it's Trump in the United States, never trust a politician.
	They will always let you down.
	I worked on Parliament Hill for eight years.
	They all let me down, with the exception of one member of Parliament I worked for.
	But Stephen Harper let me down.
	A lot of people let me down in politics because it's always about power, and it's always about maintaining that power, no matter what.
	And so I always say we have to keep pushing back from the right.
	My good friend Ezra Levant once said to me, why do I keep pushing from the right as a journalist on politicians?
	He says, because if we don't push from the right, they increasingly will move to the left.
	And we have to be vigilant and we have to continue to do everything in our power to ensure that they stay honest and they stay principled.
	It's a hard job.
	It's a difficult task.
	But it's one that I am personally very mobilized to do.
	And that's the reason I'm here tonight.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	Viva Free, once again, just a couple of minutes just for a final wrap-up and thoughts on why we've come here tonight and how you feel that's going.
	Am I able to share a screen for one second?
	You might be able to, yeah.
	Check that out, people.
	Francois Legault.
	This is the premier of Quebec.
	I'll translate it.
	It says, read the fourth industrial revolution from Klaus Schwab.
	Impacts of artificial intelligence, robots, whatever.
	This is the premier of Quebec.
	This was back in, what, it was 2016, I think.
	It was years ago.
	Touting the fact that he had read the fourth industrial revolution by Klaus Schwab.
	They're not even hiding it.
	It's a cult.
	Oh, Nicola, what did you say?
	It's a cult.
	Well, it's a death cult, quite literally, in all respects.
	No, look, this is phenomenal.
	Trump is, at the end of the day, he's a dealmaker.
	Some people call him a narcissist or whatever.
	He is someone who believes he can negotiate with his adversaries.
	I think catching a bullet to the ear will change his optimism, so to speak.
	More than anything, but it's not going to change his strategy.
	If you come off as intransigent, that you won't sit down with anybody, they will treat you accordingly.
	Whether or not he sits down with Bill Gates because he's actually sincerely interested in anything the guy has to say, or just seemingly conveying that openness to the general public, we'll see.
	He needs to come around on the jab.
	With RFK's help, he will.
	They will go and investigate, and Trump will be able to say, they lied to me, they lied to everybody.
	Albert Brula for jail.
	I've got a particular vendetta against Albert Brula, but I don't think sitting down and talking with people is a sign of abiding by what they have to say.
	He sat down with Mika Brzezinski and Joe, the intern man, Scarborough.
	He might want to make amends and make friends, but he's not going to be stupid this time around.
	It's fundamentally different.
	They tried to blow his head off on national television.
	It's fundamentally different.
	So, hopefully, you know, he doesn't have the same saboteurs.
	Hopefully, he does have a different perspective.
	He's got a little bit more political savvy to him.
	I think he does.
	And I think this is the beginning of a renaissance of sorts, not just for America, for the rest of the world.
	Because with Trump coming in, we've already noticed ripple effects in Canada, ripple effects in Europe.
	And it's not Trump as an individual.
	This is not idolatry.
	This is a movement of populism that will not be turned into a four-letter word.
	Nationalism, that is not...
	You know, the four-letter word they've turned that into.
	And it's becoming not normalized, but rather expected of a population and tolerated and even promoted by a population.
	So I'm optimistic, but let's get through Monday, 12 o'clock, and then I'll be even more.
	Great points of view there, Viva Free.
	I have to say, I very much concur with all of what you've said there.
	I do agree.
	Thank you for that.
	Jason Levine?
	Thank you very much, Jim.
	And I want to kind of take us back quickly to the WEF because I do think that is our number one issue.
	When traders enter our government and we have treason going on, that is our number one issue.
	The two frontrunners for the Liberal Party, the leadership that's being run right now is Mark Carney, who we all know is already connected to the WEF.
	And the second option is going to be Chrystia Freeland, who's also on the Board of Trustees at the WEF.
	So Canada is going to get WEF leadership.
	One of the two, it's going to happen.
	We also have young global leader Jagmeet Singh, and we also have John Baird, who helped Pierre Polyev with his leadership race as his campaign manager, who's also heavily connected to WEF.
	In Polyev's defense, though, he's one of the only leaders, other than Maxine Bernier, who's come forward and said, I don't want WEF in my cabinet.
	So that was a really great step in the right direction.
	That's really good.
	Danielle Smith has also made statements like that.
	But my challenge with Polyev, and I hope he hears this message, is can you actually make it your entire party?
	Not just the cabinet, but let's say no WF and the CPC full stop.
	And as a PPC candidate, I'll be standing there with Maxine Bernier during the election to go ahead and try and win one of those seats.
	Because I think it's very important that we have conservative accountability in the House of Commons.
	We need people even right of the CPC, which is exactly where the PPC sit.
	And we need that.
	And my call to Canadians is, let's go ahead and get rid of the NDP, which is the radical left party, which has a young global leader as its leader.
	Let's get them out of there and let's replace them with the PPC.
	Because if we can hold the balance of power with a small party like the PPC, that's really shifting that Overton window towards the right, so that society and our culture also shifts with it.
	I think that's the only way that we're going to actually get good Conservative leadership, even out of a...
	I do have confidence that he'll do some of the right things, but I'm also concerned with some of the leftist radicalization that he doesn't seem to be very strong on.
	He's a little soft on.
	And this is why I'm following Maxime Bernier in his charge to go ahead and provide some of those seats in that next House of Commons.
	Well, we wish you well with that, Jason.
	And once again, very, very wise comments.
	Thank you for those.
	I want to go to Matt and Edward now in America, currently in Washington, D.C., for final thoughts.
	On you go, guys.
	Well, just to add to what Matt kind of said, what we're looking forward to, I really would love to see an end to the weaponization of the FBI and DOJ.
	I'd like to see an end to the prosecution of the J6 people.
	In the IRS, too.
	Yeah, there's the tax system, too.
	But that's something, for sure, on the first day, we'd want to see that.
	And then secondly, I do think we're going to have to have a societal-wide discussion about the future implications of AI and work.
	I think that...
	The H-1B visa discussion, which ruined Christmas for so many, I think it really stems back to the failure in our school system.
	We built the school system so that we'd have a draftable population that could work in factories and go fight in trenches and all these other things, the Prussian model for education.
	The education system, I think every single person here, we probably learned more from personal study and the internet than we learned from primary school.
	Did it really prepare us to do the jobs that we're doing today?
	No, it didn't.
	And I think it's not just an American thing either.
	I think maybe the same way the West led the revolt against slavery, the expansion of thought, and the Enlightenment era, maybe we can be the generation that also addresses how to incorporate AI, but also revolutionize how we prepare that next generation.
	Because if we don't prepare them, they're going to be Unprepared to resist against the World Economic Forum puppets.
	They're going to be unprepared to resist against various other pernicious and poisonous mindsets that are infecting our society.
	So I think education, and that's another thing.
	I certainly think the Trump administration has an opportunity.
	I don't know if they have a plan yet, but an opportunity nonetheless.
	Yeah, they do.
	They're going to dismantle the Department of Education.
	We think she's the designated survivor for the inauguration.
	And she looks like they put her in a position where she's not meant to do anything.
	Just get out of the way and let the administration kind of destroy the department.
	Well, look, he's giving $10,000 grants or money to homeschoolers.
	That's a great thing.
	We need to encourage that.
	We're going to see a lot, I think, come Monday, Tuesday.
	I think there's going to be a lot happening.
	I think there's a lot of executive orders planned.
	Thanks for that, guys.
	Let me go to Wayne for the final thoughts, Wayne.
	My final thoughts, a couple of real quick things.
	Noah Yuboharari explained that the globalists use the term useless eaters because if we only believed we were oppressed, we would fight back.
	And these kinds of things that we're doing here tonight are useful, meaningful conversations.
	This is exactly what differentiates that, no, we are not useless eaters, but we are, in fact, oppressed.
	And in Canada right now, one quick point to make on Premier Daniel Smith's stance in this.
	I do believe right now she is the last thing stopping Canada from sliding into full-on totalitarianism because with the trade war...
	And a cap on Canadian energy, the only viable solution to keep the population alive from the globalists will be to implement an emergency universal basic income that will be required by digital ID in order to implement expeditiously enough to insulate and protect Canadians from the coming trade war.
	So I think Canada is this close from sliding into exactly that regime, and whether Danielle is aware of that or not, but her stance on...
	On Alberta Energy is, I think, the one thing in the way which is why she's being persecuted or prosecuted by every other elected official in the country, basically.
	Other than that, I think that it's time for the whole world to start looking at maybe fixing the vehicles of their government.
	Well, you can read into that as you wish.
	I would just like to say a huge thank you to you, Wayne, to Jason Levine, Nicola Charles, Viva Frey, Martin Edward from the Died Suddenly podcast in America, and of course, our one and only David Craven.
	Thanks very much indeed, folks.
	It's been wonderful.
	To all the people who are watching, I'm going to be going through all of these comments, and one thing I'd like you to do right now, if you don't mind, if you wouldn't mind, if you believe there should be greater integration with America, Just type in yes and hit the send button, okay?
	And if you don't, put in a no.
	It's a little kind of a little fun poll that we'll do just to sort of get a bit of a feel for what you guys are thinking.
	So if you want further integration with America, type in yes.
	If you don't, type in no.
	But I'm going to go through all of the comments, I'm going to read them, and I'm going to do some follow-up.
	And if you've asked any particular questions, either to the panellists or to me, We're going to follow that up.
	And let us know if you would like us to do this again.
	Let us know if you're watching this in Australia or New Zealand.
	Would you like us to do a special report with you guys as well?
	Tackle the big questions that are there and the obstacles that are stopping you from getting what you're looking for.
	The same in Europe.
	The same in the UK.
	If you've been up as late as I have been watching this, fair play to you.
	Well done.
	If you want us to do a special report on Starmer and what he's doing...
	Elon Musk and what Trump's about to do to him?
	Let me know and we'll put a special report together for you guys and we'll have other guests coming in with their comments and views.
	But I would just like to say one final thing to each and every one of you.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	Thank you for supporting the wonderful work that Freedom Trade International is doing.
	We do appreciate it.
	And you know, one other thing I would say to you is as the world gets darker, we get brighter.
	Keep fighting for freedom.
	Never give up.
	Thanks to each and every one of you.
	And thank you to our wonderful panelists for all your help and support, Wayne, behind the scenes as well.
	Thank you one and all.
	This is Jim Ferguson from Freedom Train International.
	You've been watching Freedom Train International's Special Report Live.
	Until next time, this is Jim Ferguson.
	We'll speak soon.
	Bye-bye.

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