Live w/ Couy Griffin - Disqualified for "Insurrection"! He Was the 14th Amendment Canary! Viva Frei
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All right, peeps.
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Okay, how do I bring this out?
Everybody, just so you know, the day came.
Well, the day didn't really come.
I ordered a new computer.
I was the source of mockery of our locals community because I ordered it allegedly, apparently, with more...
RAM, unified memory than I needed.
And I ordered it on November 18. And I've been sitting here waiting around like a jackass for the computer to be delivered.
And it had a window and it didn't come within the window.
And I go to my email.
I'm like, oh, it says it's been shipped in deliveries December 3rd to December 5th.
The order was canceled on November 25th for reasons unknown to me.
And instead of ordering that very same computer with the additional unified memory that people said I didn't really need all that much of, I just got a new computer.
Which has slightly more unified memory.
Whatever the hell that means.
And we're going to see if it works without giving me this spinning wheel of death.
The spinning wheel of death that I've been getting so often.
But the problem is...
sound.
I just want to podcast.
I just want to talk.
Can you hear me now?
Where's my phone?
Can you hear me now?
Mic check one, two.
Can you hear me now?
Let me see here.
Oh, sweet.
Well, I guess it's going to make sense why you couldn't hear me.
There we go.
It's in the good mic.
Mic check one, two.
People, I got a new computer today.
The one that I thought I had ordered two weeks ago on November 18, and it said it was going to be delivered by December 3rd.
For whatever the reason, it got canceled, the order, on November 25th.
And so I'm sitting around here like a jackass waiting for something to be delivered that's never coming.
And then yesterday, I go and say, do I reorder that same computer which had more unified memory than our locals community thought I needed?
And instead, I ordered one that's got 48 gigabytes of unified memory, which we're going to see if it makes it, if I avoid the spinning wheel of death that I've been getting.
It's a big-ass flicking, look at this thing.
Here, hold on a second.
It's a big-ass computer, a 16-inch MacBook or something.
That's what the computer looks like.
And all that to say is I'm struggling figuring out the new things on this new computer because I'm an idiot.
All right, now with that said, I screwed up the intro, so we're going to skip any more talk than necessary.
I will put out a short video after this stream summarizing what went down in the Daniel Penny trial today because there was confusion.
And for good reason, because what the judge was giving by way of instructions to the jury were confusing.
Bottom line, the manslaughter charge was dismissed, which, as Phil Holloway observed, means it cannot be retried because Jeopardy had attached.
It wasn't withdrawn, and it wasn't, despite what the judge said, it was a little sketchy.
But even what the judge did do is sketchy, and I'll explain why afterwards.
All right, now, does anybody here know who Coy Griffin is?
We had talked about this case.
A long time ago.
Actually, as it initially arose.
Coy Griffin, and I said, this is the test run for the insurrection exclusion that they're going to run against Donald Trump.
And if this stands, this was actually brought to my attention by our VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com community.
Oh yeah, Viva helped out Chad Kovatair in Goodweek.
All right, all that to say, you're going to hear about Coy's situation because it's wild.
And it's still in the process of being wild.
Coy, getting ready to bring you in.
Three, two, one.
Sir, how goes the battle?
Hey, it's all as well in New Mexico.
Okay, so I said before, like you came in for 30 seconds before and I said, I've got questions about your backdrop, which is absolutely beautiful.
We got a deer head in our place here in Florida that is imported from Canada that we didn't actually kill.
It came with a cottage my parents got in the 60s, and the deer is probably like 100 years old.
Dude, what's going on in the background?
Those are amazing.
Thank you.
Yeah, I got deer on the wall.
I got a picture with me and the president.
I also have a signed magazine right over my shoulder right here that he signed in the Oval Office.
It says, Coy, you're great.
And thanks, thanking me for the efforts that I've been making.
That was back in September of 2019.
Okay, so, like, ordinarily I would dig into childhood a little bit, but I only just need to know, like, the overview.
You're born and raised in New Mexico?
That's correct.
Yeah, born and raised a family of loggers and sawmillers.
And we battled with the United States Forest Service for many years growing up, in which they eventually put us out of business through the Endangered Species Act, Mexican Spotted Out, which kind of drove me into politics, I would say.
My dad was involved.
He was a county commissioner.
But my background is in ministry, David, to kind of round it all out.
I grew up, as I said, grew up logging, sawmill, and I grew up rodeoing.
I rode bulls competitively through college.
Worked in a Wild West show in Paris, France for about five and a half years for Disneyland Paris.
I drove stagecoaches, chuck wagons, trick rope, did all the fun cowboy stuff until I was about 30. Then I came back to the States.
I had a call into the ministry.
I was just praying for a call to serve the Lord.
The Lord really moved in my life during my end of my time in France.
And I had the unction or felt a call to ride horseback from Golden Gate to Golden Gate, from the Golden Gate of San Francisco to the Golden Gate of Jerusalem, Israel, which I accomplished by God's grace.
I started in San Francisco in 06, rode across the United States horseback twice in 06 and 07. And then in 2008, I began the European leg where I rode across Ireland, England, France, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, to the tip of Greece.
Left a horse in the rig at the tip of Greece in the ancient city of Corinth.
Flew to Israel, leased another horse in Israel.
Completed the ride through the old city gates of Jerusalem.
And all in attempt, you know, I felt like the Lord just, He gave me that call, which is so out of the box.
That was a way to draw people's attention.
And as I drew people's attention, they wanted to know what I was doing, why I was doing it.
I had the opportunity to share the gospel with them and the amazing saving grace message of the Lord Jesus Christ.
So it was a beautiful time.
After that, I came back to New Mexico where I was called to pastor a church.
I pastored a cowboy church for about...
Five and a half years.
During that time, I was bi-locational.
I opened a barbecue business from the ground up, knew nothing about food.
Grew the business in about three different locations.
But, you know, David, on Sunday mornings, I would preach about the moral decay in our country.
And then during the week, I would struggle with heavy taxation and no representation and regulations.
Anybody in the food business knows what I'm talking about.
So it didn't take much of a nudge to push me into the realm of politics where I ran for county commissioner.
I didn't even have to campaign because the people here knew me.
They knew what I stood for between the church and the business.
I was very engaged in my community.
So I ran for county commissioner, won by a large majority.
That was in 2018.
Trump had already been in office.
He was working hard on the border.
I saw his efforts.
And I'm 75 miles from El Paso right now, so I'm right on the border.
Our county's right on the border.
But I appreciated his efforts.
I got sick of everybody saying it's Trump's wall, it's Trump's wall, whatever it was, and it was our wall.
So I formed a group called Cowboys for Trump simply and solely to advocate for President Trump.
I led a group of about 13 into Washington, D.C. Where we rode about 170 miles from Cumberland, Maryland, into D.C., down the Potomac River, the C&O Canal.
At the end of the ride, as I was catching a flight back out to New Mexico, because I had a very important meeting the next day, we were going to cast our vote on the Second Amendment Sanctuary County resolutions, if you remember when those were going on.
I had to be back.
I was at the airport in Newark, New Jersey.
My phone rang, and it was a president of the United States.
That was the first time that I'd spoken to the president.
I was extremely impressed when I did.
I appreciated the phone call.
Kind of got choked up like I just did, just thinking back about it.
But, you know, after that conversation, I continued advocating through Cowboys for Trump, where I've lived.
I've been horseback, David.
You name the city, and I've been there.
I've been across...
America countless times with my horse, with my flag, on the streets, just encouraging people to believe in their country and to support President Trump because he did too.
He does too.
So that's kind of it in a nutshell.
I did get to build a relationship with President Trump where later I went into the Oval Office.
I got to sit down with him at the Resolute desk, meet him face to face.
And I'll tell you something that Many can't say.
It was that day in Newark, New Jersey, after that first ride when President Trump called me, he invited me to come back to the Oval Office and meeting.
Bring the guys.
Come back.
And I declined the invitation.
And I did so because I had to come back and represent my people here in Otero County.
My oath meant the world to me.
It still does.
And, you know, what they did to me was wrong.
Oh, we're going to get into that.
Give me one second.
I'm just going to close this.
Dog popped in here.
Before, I didn't get distracted, but I've been fixated.
You rode a horse across the country.
Yes, sir.
I started both.
I rode across America twice.
I started at the Golden Gate Bridge both years on Easter Sunday morning and completed the ride.
On September 11th at the Trade Center site.
Now, I stayed on the road.
I stayed gone the whole time with my horse, and I rode most of the way, but I did use my truck and trailer at different times to get across different stretches because the call was for the people.
It wasn't necessarily some extreme horseback ride, you know.
My call was to engage in people on the streets, and I met.
Thousands of great Americans and was able to sow seeds into their life, eternal seeds through the blood of Jesus.
And I give all praise and glory to Him.
It's magnificent.
I mean, it's like my initial reaction was like thinking of Forrest Gump, but then I actually thought more of James Topp out of Canada.
Who's a veteran who walked across the country to Ottawa to protest the mandates.
You think of Terry Fox, who didn't make it, but he's another Canadian.
That's wild, and that's not just a physical journey.
That absolutely has to be the most incredible spiritual journey.
It was amazing.
Getting to go across Europe, you know, I mean, a cowboy in New Mexico doesn't stand out much, but a cowboy in Europe, you know what?
I was able to garnish a lot of attention.
I was able to hit a lot of media.
And through that media, through interviews like this one right here, I was able to get on and share the message of Christ.
Bible-based, not affiliated with any religious sect or any denominational church.
It was solely the gospel and the words of Jesus.
So it was a blessing.
A pastor by trade is what, like, profession?
I'd say a pastor by call.
Though, you know, I mean, like, yeah.
Much respect to all the pastors out there.
It's a very high call.
And I always, you know, I felt called a pastor, but...
I always felt like there was possibly something else where I really was going to get plugged in and where I really was going to be the most useful at.
And I believe that's in the world of politics because Lord knows we need godliness in a world of politics nowadays.
And not to say that I'm anything, you know, I'm a man just like you're a man, brother.
You know, I mean, I have many shortcomings.
Every day I fall on my face, but I know that I trust in the one.
That was perfect, and that was Jesus.
So through him, yeah, I can stand right before God.
Okay, so you started Cowboys for Trump.
What year was it that you started Cowboys for Trump?
In 2019.
February of 2019, if you remember when President Trump was, he had shut the government down, and he was going to either shut it down again or go executive to get the funding for the wall.
He was really coming under the gun at the time, and I felt like he really needed the help at the time, the visible help.
So that was the time, February 20, around the 20th, I believe, is when we made that first ride with an amazing group of guys and one woman that rode with us.
It was really a blast trip.
We rode from Cumberland, Maryland, into D.C. It's about 170 miles, and it was in the dead winter through the snow and ice.
Cold, but we rubbed it out.
We got there, and it was great.
That's amazing.
Now, okay, your tenure as commissioner, it's commissioner of Otero County, right?
That's correct.
Well, I have no idea what a commissioner does.
So is it a full-time gig?
Does it take up all day every day, or is it like 20 hours a week?
Why do you even decide to get into that?
It's kind of like running a business, probably.
I mean, you get out of it what you put into it, you know, and what we need to get out of politics in rural New Mexico today is much.
We don't have any representation out here, especially our loggers, our sawmillers, our ranchers, our farmers, our oil and gas.
So I was very given to it.
Technically, we're fiscal agents.
We handle the budgets of the county, whatever different departments.
We have budget hearings, and department heads come to us with their requests.
We go over them, and essentially, we fund the county.
There's three of us that sit on the board here, or there's three commissioners in Otero County.
But not only that, commissioners also set policy.
We pass resolutions.
We meet with the state government, federal government.
We're really where the rubber meets the road, really, as far as the voice of the people.
Everybody thinks that our representation comes from D.C. It doesn't.
It's local.
If we're to be a government by the people for the people, the local bodies of government should have the most respect because that's where the voice of the people is first made manifest.
I'm not asking for a number.
Is it a salaried position?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I salary and benefits, not insurance and stuff as well.
No, that'll be relevant for when it comes to your getting disqualified for insurrection.
Okay, so you ran.
You went with the...
How many...
What was the second person who ran against you?
How did he fare?
How popular was your victory?
You could have combined both of the other two people's votes together and I still would have beat them.
So you are a well-known, well-respected, you have an unblemished record as far as life goes.
Running for office, you get into office and you run there without problems until the infamous Jan 6 and the events that ensued.
Yeah, January 6th was kind of the icing on the cake for me, but the enemies really came against me whenever I stood up for the certification of the election because, as you mentioned, the duty of the county commissioners, the vote is first certified by the county commissioners in each county across the states.
So when 2020 came upon us and I saw...
The fraud that was going on.
I heard the rhetoric from President Trump.
Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo, those above were saying that our elections were compromised.
Through advocating my fellow county commissioners, I was able to get all three of us to vote three no on the certification of the election.
When that happened, the gates of hell broke loose on us.
We were a national headline.
Everybody above said, you can't do that.
You must vote yes on a yes-no board vote, okay?
I said, no.
It's a yes-no vote.
I can vote no.
I'm going to honor my oath.
They said, no, you must vote yes.
I said, go to hell.
I'm going to vote no.
So I voted no.
And when I did, the Secretary of State, through the New Mexico Supreme Court, threatened the county commissioners with fourth-degree felonies to remove us from office unless we voted yes.
On a yes-no vote, which I see your expression and probably many of your viewers kind of set back the same way.
Why? If you just have to blind rubber stamp approve without doing what you believe represents a fair election, then there should be no purpose for a vote in the first place.
Absolutely. But I'll tell you the reason why they do it.
It's because of liability.
They leave it a yes-no vote.
They force you to vote yes, because when you do, you assume the liability of the legitimacy of the election.
So we always think that Washington, D.C. is selling us out.
We run to Washington, D.C. on January 6th going, oh, no, no, stop the vote.
Whenever that fight should be taking place at our local county level.
The county commissioners can put forth their concessions if it's to remove the tabulators, the drop boxes, demand voter ID.
They need to put these on a resolution, move and pass it in a meeting, and put the secretaries of state on notice and say, if you don't do these things, we are not going to certify the election.
That's where the rubber would meet the road.
That's where we could make a stand at.
But unfortunately, it hasn't happened yet.
I thought we were going to be able to do it here in D.C. or here in D.C., here in New Mexico.
But after they made those threats, they scheduled a re-vote for us to re-vote on the deal.
They did so on the same day that I was being sentenced in Washington, D.C. I had to call into that meeting to cast my vote once again.
Unfortunately, my fellow two commissioners folded and voted yes, but my vote's still on record, and it's no.
I voted against the certification, and so traveling to D.C., that was after I had already voted no on the certification.
I honored my oath.
I traveled to D.C. to peacefully and patriotically protest the election, once again, freely expressing my First Amendment right.
And then that's when I got hit and eventually removed from office because they said that I violated my oath by participating in an insurrection.
And one more point quickly on that.
Is that after January 6th, I came back here to New Mexico.
My political adversaries ran a vicious recall campaign against me with lots of money.
And the recall campaign failed miserably.
They couldn't get 26% of the people of my county to sign the recall.
So, that's when they use the insurrection thing, and we'll talk about that.
What we're going to do, and this is not out of fear of talking about the election stuff on YouTube, it's out of respect for a free speech platform like Rumble.
We're going to end it on YouTube for now.
It doesn't change anything on our end.
I'll just give a link to Locals and a link to Rumble, and then I'm going to post the entire stream later.
We're going to get off Commitube right now.
Let me see here, Rumble.
And I'll do it as we talk, but New Mexico is...
Blue, by and large, but not necessarily at the county level.
You know, it's much like the United States.
I mean, New Mexico's red.
29 of the 33 counties voted to pass the Second Amendment Sanctuary County resolution.
29 of the 33 counties are red.
There's a few blue ones, unfortunately.
And New Mexico's the most of the populous is.
And Albuquerque, whatever district that is, basically drives the rest of the state.
They say there's no red states, only blue cities.
Sorry, I should say.
Blue states, only blue cities.
Great way to put it.
Okay, so you're a commissioner.
You're witnessing what happens during the election, during the day of, and, you know, Bernie Sanders coming out and saying, don't get too excited, people.
The red wave is going to turn into a red mirage.
And you are seeing as much in the news as everybody else is.
When it comes to you, time to certify.
Specifically, not that you have to give a justification.
If they did ask you for one, what were you saying?
What was your justification, the stuff you were relying on to say, I don't feel comfortable certifying?
You know, we had performed an audit here in Ontario County.
Professor David Clement and his wife Erin, they came out.
We did a canvas the vote.
We found lots of fraud.
So I could have made my case whenever I cast my vote.
But as Benny Thompson said at the January 6th committee hearings, he quoted me.
I can send you the link whenever he referenced myself during their opening at the January 6th about how a commissioner out in New Mexico said that his vote was not based on any fact or on any proof, only my own gut instinct and my own tuition, and that's all I need.
And sorry to say, that's all you do need as a county commissioner whenever you honor your oath.
I didn't have to make a case.
I didn't have to get up there and produce evidence.
It's not a courtroom.
Whenever you swear an oath, you swear an oath before God, not before man.
My oath is not to the government, it's to God.
So if God gives me the conviction to vote a certain way...
You can bet your boots I'm going to vote that way.
I'm not going to, you know, so that's whenever I cast my vote, I said that whenever I cast it.
I said, I'm not casting this on any, I mean, I could have, and like I said, I could have brought forth evidence.
I could have brought forth the fact that Dominion wouldn't let us inspect their machines.
They just said, you got to certify.
You got to vote yes.
I said, let us have an outside forensics expert examine the machine if you will let me do that to see if they can digitally send and receive information.
If they can't, I'll vote to certify.
They wouldn't let me, so I said, okay, I'm not certifying then.
I mean, we've got to have fighters on the ground level or we just get taken over by the top.
How many commissioners existed to certify the vote in the first place?
Was it three of you?
Three. And two of the three voted yes, and you voted no.
On the first round, we all voted no.
Okay. And that's what got, I mean, we were a national headline.
It was like, they couldn't believe that these little guys would actually stand up, you know?
They were like, how dare you, you know?
And that's where the New Mexico Supreme Court threatened us with felonies and remove us from office.
Unless, again, we voted yes.
On a yes, no vote.
And I spoke to Carrie Lake about this.
It's been quite a while back on his face.
And I told Carrie, I said, you know, we need to, your commissioners out in Arizona need to hold the line.
Your county supervisors and stuff, they need to vote no.
And Carrie's position was that we need to just be removed from the process and it needs to be handled by the state.
And I'm like, no, we must have a vote on the very local ground level.
We must stand up in the office of commissioners, our county sheriffs.
Our county sheriffs are not about law enforcement.
They're the most important political position that we have on the county level.
That's why we give them a gun and a badge and we put them in charge of the law, because it's that important.
We must hold the line on the county level.
So all three of you initially vote no.
Subsequent to the threats, I presume, the other two flip.
How does the process work for calling a second vote after the first one?
I'm not sure why it got called.
A second vote got called.
I was getting attacked from every direction.
My head was spinning at the time.
But one of the county commissioners, his response was...
That he felt like it was okay.
It was good.
He did more research.
But the other commissioner, Vicki Marquardt, she totally compromised herself because whenever she voted yes or no or yes to certify, whenever she voted to certify, she said on record, I still don't think the elections are right.
I still think the elections are rigged, but I think I can do more good in my office than getting removed.
So on that premise, I'm going to vote yes.
And I'm like, wow, you don't get to self-preserve when you take an oath.
If you take an oath and you feel a certain way, you got to go down with the ship.
You can't say, oh, I don't want to get charges pressed against me.
I'm going to fold.
You know, that's why we're in the mess we're in, because they won't stand on their own.
Practically speaking, how does it work?
Because you're at county levels where all of the county commissioners have to vote yes or no.
And then the counties get aggregated where?
Because I know it at the state level where every state has however many electoral college votes.
How does it work?
Does each county have a certain designated number of votes and then it trickles up?
Practically speaking, how does it work?
Each county says yay or nay and they all said yes.
But what happens if one says no?
One county?
Yeah, that would have been something that we could have found out.
I don't think it's ever happened.
I think this last election, I met with Chuck, I forget, the Secretary of State in Wyoming, and he was ready to support the commissioners.
And I think this last election, I think there was a lot of county commissioners that were ready to hold the line, but maybe that was one of the reasons why Trump...
They let Trump win, you know?
I mean, if our elections were rigged before, why weren't they rigged with Trump this last election?
Well, some would say that the margin was beyond what they could have otherwise.
And the entire voting mail-in was a lot different this time around than the last.
Okay, so the three of you vote no initially.
Headline news.
The other two flip eventually.
You're basically persona non grata.
This is prior to January 6th.
After. Okay, so timeline-wise, how does this work?
The second vote was after.
I'm sorry.
The first vote was before.
It might get my...
It might get to 2022.
I don't know.
You know what?
All of that, all of the substance of what we're talking about right now, that went down in 2022.
2020, I voted no on the certification of the election again.
I voted twice no.
We didn't stand together in 2020, but we did in 2022.
That's what it was.
It was a different election cycle.
I'm sorry.
Don't worry.
I was trying to get clear on the timeline, but if I go to your Wikipedia, all I see, I don't know if this bothers you to look at, but it's hilarious for an outsider.
Coy Griffin is an American former politician and right-wing extremist and convicted criminal who served from 2019.
It's so over-the-top, I say, slander.
It's probably technically true.
So you go to the Capitol on January 6th, and this is where I suspect they're calling you a convicted criminal.
How did you get to Jan 6th?
What happened on that day from your own perspective, from your experience?
And then getting into the disqualifying you from office for having participated in an insurrection.
And we'll get to what you were convicted of.
But let's let's start from the decision and leading up to.
I've said time and time again, I've had some remarkable days in my life.
Getting to sit down with the president in the Oval Office, unbelievable honor.
Riding through the old city of Jerusalem, carrying the Christian flag, lifting up the name of Jesus.
Unbelievable day.
But all those days honestly pale in comparison to January 6th.
January 6th was a day like no other for me.
And I say that because it was a day of such patriotism.
It was a day where Americans had drove thousands of miles.
And just, you're commoners, okay?
Not your elitist, just your good old boys and girls, you know, the hard-working, fabric, backbone of America that's tired of getting trampled on, concerned about our country.
They showed up that day, and it was where I stood on the terrace on the west side.
All you could see were the tops of heads as far as the eye could see.
Unbelievable. But to lead up to that, I started out about probably a week, 10 days prior to J6.
I joined Amy Kramer and the Women for America first tour that hosted the rally in D.C. at the Ellipse.
We had a bus tour where we went up through the southern states.
We had one or two stops a day.
I spoke on the same stage.
As Dustin Stockton, Jennifer Lawrence, Greg Locke, a number of other speakers along the way.
And then on the day of January 6th, I thought I was going to, you know, I traveled up there with them.
I thought I was going to be included in some way during the rally at the Ellipse.
But it was kind of interesting.
I thank God for it because I feel like God was insulating me from maybe, you know, getting caught.
Deep in a trap.
I don't know.
But they kind of distanced themselves from me before J6.
So on the day of January 6th, I stood out on the mall.
I listened to President Trump in the freezing cold with a bunch of other great Americans.
And we kind of listened to the same old, same old.
You know, China stole your elections.
They've been stolen from you.
And in order to understand January 6th, you have to understand the mind.
What we were hearing, you know?
I mean, we took President Trump and his word.
Whenever he said, China stole your elections, I didn't take that as hyperbole.
I took that as fact.
That's the president, the sitting president of the United States, highest executive office we have, is telling the people, China stole your elections.
So, that was the mindset on January 6th of many.
So after I heard the president, he spoke.
I got a text from a good friend of mine that morning, Gary Chapman, who was married to Amy Grant's first husband.
Great guy, great brother of the Lord.
And Gary told me, he goes, Coy, there's a brother from the church that had a vision of a million people all kneeling to declare Jesus Christ as Lord.
He said, if you get on that stage at the Ellipse, This might be a call that God allows you to have.
And I thought, man, consider it done.
If I get on that stage, I'm going to ask everybody to take a knee to declare Jesus as Lord.
But the Bible tells us there will be a day when that will happen.
But I wasn't included.
I texted Gary back.
The guy I was with was cold.
He was wanting to go back to the car.
I texted Gary back.
I said, brother, I wasn't able to get up there.
I would have done it.
He goes, cool, you don't need to do it from the mainstay.
Just find a bullhorn and a little crowd of people.
Get them to kneel.
Get them to declare Jesus as Lord.
And I went, okay.
You know, because as a Christian talking to another Christian, I took that as a word from God.
So I thought, all right, I need to find a bullhorn and a crowd of people.
I need to pray.
So we started walking down to the Capitol.
I saw little groups of people here and there.
Never felt like I could really ask anybody.
It wasn't ever really the right environment.
I never really felt mad until I got plugged down to the Capitol and there was a block retaining wall outside of the Capitol.
There was this black man that was standing up on the wall and he was preaching and this brother was hitting on all cylinders now.
He was preaching the blood of Jesus and the power of the resurrection.
Repentance. And I was thinking, this is going to be the place I'm going to get to pray, you know?
And so there was a bicycle that was leading up against that block retaining wall.
There's people sitting all over it and stuff.
Well, this guy looked at me and he goes, step up on the bike.
Because people were stepping up on the bike to go over the wall.
Well, the guy I was with, Matt Strzok, who later turned state's witness and testified in my January 6th trial against me.
Matt tells me, cool, he's calling you.
He's calling you because he thought he said step up to the bank.
Crazy. So I was like, all right.
So I walk over there, pull my pants up, and I step up on this block wall.
Well, I tell you all this to tell you that's where I supposedly crossed into the restricted area at, was that block wall was supposed to have been a perimeter of their restricted area.
No signs, no nothing.
It was just part of the...
Capital architecture, you know?
So I step up there, but then I wasn't ever able to really engage this guy again, and I thought, this isn't where the Lord wants me to pray.
And so I said, come on, let's keep walking.
So we walked up to the west side, to the terrace, and man, brother, it was unbelievable the amount of people that were down there.
There was people crawling up the stairs and crawling up the scaffolding, and I'm like...
This is as far as I'm going.
I'm not going to crawl up those stairs or, you know, I mean, that's not what I went down there to do.
I'm not going to go crawl up anything.
And about that time, I look and I see a door open.
And it's an outside, or it's a door that opens.
A couple people went into it and I thought, well, I wonder where that goes.
So I walked over there and I looked and I looked up and it came out up on top.
And it was an outside staircase.
It didn't go into the building because I had no desire to go into the building.
But it was an outside staircase.
And I thought, well, let's go see what it looks like from up here.
So we walked up that outside staircase.
And that's what I told you a minute ago.
Whenever I got to the top, I looked out over the sea of people of the American flag.
Brother, would you have a billion people all singing the national anthem at once?
Or a billion people all singing Amazing Grace at one time?
Words can't.
You can't even imagine that unless you were there.
That was the experience that I had.
Long story short, as I stood up there, a guy was walking up the steps.
His bullhorn caught me by the back of the leg, and something's tugging on my leg as I'm standing there.
And I looked down.
It's a bullhorn.
I looked over the edge, and there's a sea of people.
And the Lord was like, this is where you are and where this is the place.
And so I said, hey, man, can I borrow your bullhorn?
He says, sure.
He unclips it and hands it to me.
I turned, I prayed 2 Chronicles 7, verse 14, over our nation, which is a verse of repentance, how we need to turn back to God.
And the call, I answered the call.
We hung out there for a little while longer.
It was done.
I walked down the steps.
And whenever I came down those steps, that was the only time that day that I smelt tear gas, as God is my witness.
That was the only time.
Now, I saw stupid people do some stupid things here and there, you know?
I mean, whenever you get a crowd of a million people, of course there's going to be idiots in the crowd, you know?
But that wasn't reflective of the type of people that were there on that day.
The type of people that were there on that day were good people, were good patriot people.
Now, some of those people...
People got sprayed in the face with base.
A lot of them got shot in the face with rubber bullets.
A lot of them got beat over the head with billy clubs.
And believe me, I only thank God that I didn't get shot in the face with a rubber bullet because I know myself.
I would probably be still in D.C. right now if I would have seen some of that stuff that happened on that day.
But thank God I was always in a peaceful area.
Nothing on that day ever made me cringe or made me go, ooh.
It was like walking around with just a group of patriots around town.
I mean, it wasn't what the media portrayed it to be.
I've got to say one thing before I forget.
I was watching another interview that you gave, I forget where, and you talked about Trump saying China interfered with the election.
Now, I know what I believe, and I believe that the entire coronavirus...
Whether or not it was of Chinese origin, which it was, or weaponized by China or weaponized by, you know, U.S. intelligence to alter the election.
That's how they did it.
But I didn't actually remember specifically Trump saying these things.
And what's really funny is, you know, going back and reading this, and this is from the BBC, and this is from August 2020, so before the election, where intelligence was before the election warning that China, Russia, Iran tried to influence the vote.
And then, let me take that one out.
And then, you know, after when Trump says it, let me see where that was, then they start saying that Trump is lying when he says it.
Now, I happen to thoroughly believe that whether or not China, this is an article saying that, you know, Trump said that China didn't want him to get elected and that they were interfering and that they say it's, you know, a total lie.
I happen to think that, you know, the way COVID was weaponized was specifically so they could rig that election the way they rigged it.
I never was on board with the...
Dominion vote flipping in the machines, although we all know the risks of electronic machines.
I think they didn't need to do that by the time they had tens of millions of ballots, absentee ballots everywhere, and that's how they got their extra 7 million votes that seemed to have disappeared in 2024.
All that to say, setting aside your personal beliefs, your, and I'll put it in quotes just so that everybody can see and hear, your criminal activity on that day consisted of no violence, walking to the top of those stairs, using a bullhorn to speak to the crowd.
Say a prayer.
Come down.
No violence at any point.
No physical contact with police officers.
And you're in and out.
And that was it.
That was it.
And on January the 17th, I was arrested in Washington, D.C. and charged with knowingly entering a restricted area.
January 17th.
Sorry, January 17th, you say.
So you stayed down there for a couple of weeks afterwards?
No, I went back.
I went back to D.C. You know, after January 6th, Matt Strunk and I, we spent the night growing up in Virginia, and I started watching the videos, and we heard that there was a girl that was killed, Ashley Babbitt.
And I had Matt pull Ashley up on his phone, and we watched the videos, and I watched some of the content.
I saw the videos of John Sullivan or Taylor Hanson, one of the two, the only two that...
We've never seen any videos from where Taylor Hanson, who's never even been questioned by the FBI, yet I get thrown in jail for standing outside.
But that's another story.
But after I saw those videos, I told Matt, well, let's go see your family, you know, because I thought that way, David, because.
If I would have gotten shot on January the 6th and they would have been trying to make it out to look like some armed mob and violent insurrection, I would have wanted somebody that was actually there to have gone and seen my mother.
So Matt and I loaded up that next morning.
I drove over 3,000 miles from Roanoke, Virginia to San Diego, California, where Ashley Babbitt was from.
We spent about two days out there, contacted the press, media, tried to find her family, couldn't find anybody, couldn't find any prayer vigils, couldn't find any of her family, couldn't, you know, just hit the press, hit the media, trying to find out who she was, where she was, what patriot groups maybe she was a part of, you know, maybe if there was a press conference, nothing.
We spent about two days out there looking for a family, couldn't ever find anything.
And they were silent for a long time after.
So after that, I drove back out here to New Mexico.
I went to the county commissioner meeting.
I made my meeting.
And then I just felt pulled to go back to D.C. I wanted to go watch the inauguration because I live in a world nowadays that I don't believe anything unless I see it with my own eyes.
And even then you're not sure what you can believe anymore.
So I drove back to D.C. to go see if Biden was actually going to get sworn in or whatever.
And that's when the FBI got me.
They got me outside the Capitol on January 17th.
I got sworn by and they arrested me.
Did you know that you were charged yet?
No, I had no idea.
I promise you, whenever they arrested me, this is how blindsided I was.
Whenever they arrested me and put cuffs on me, I said, what are y'all doing?
I said, what's going on?
The FBI agent says, you have a warrant for your arrest.
And I went.
With my hands behind me, a warrant.
And I thought for a minute, and I said, is this for an unpaid ticket out of New Jersey?
Because that's another story where I shouldn't have got a ticket, but I did.
It was frivolous, and I never paid it.
And I thought, I wonder if that's why.
I mean, that's how blindsided.
And then they said, no, it's from January 6th.
And I went, January 6th?
What did I do on January 6th to get it right?
You know?
Give me one second.
Oh, yeah.
It's... I've got a very annoying dog and it's becoming a problem.
So you had no idea.
They don't call you.
They don't give you any advance warning.
They swarm you when you're in D.C. because obviously if you have a warrant out for your arrest, what you're going to do is go back to D.C. The charges were...
Just pulling this up here.
Oh, let me see here.
Charged via criminal information.
What did they charge you with?
Knowingly entering a restricted area in 1752.
And then they charged me with disruptive and disorderly conduct as well.
But that wasn't until later.
But I went to trial.
I went on a bench trial before Judge Trevor McFadden.
And before the...
The trial, it's crazy.
My attorney told me, he goes, Coy, you're going to win one and you're going to lose one.
And I went, what?
He goes, you'll probably win one and you'll probably lose one.
And I said, is that how this works?
You know, I mean, I shouldn't lose nothing.
I didn't know that area was restricted because I was charged with knowingly entering into a restricted zone.
And as I just shared the story, I mean...
There was no evidence.
The government didn't produce one shred of evidence that would even begin to incriminate me as knowing.
But I was adjudicated of the disorderly conduct charge.
I mean, but they got me on the...
Entering... Yeah, sorry.
McFound sentenced me to two weeks in jail, but I'd already spent three weeks in pretrial, so I guess the government just takes one week of your life and doesn't even have to account for it, you know?
Okay, so entering, remaining in a restricted building, this is the third amended complaint, disorderly disruptive conduct.
Yeah, and I didn't go into the building.
But so hold on, hold on.
I never went into the Capitol.
You spent three weeks in pretrial detention.
I spent three weeks in the gulag in D.C. and that place is horrible.
The first nine days they had me in 24-hour confinement.
They didn't let me take a shower.
I got to drink brown water coming out of the sink.
It was horrible.
The reason why I was in for nine days on 24-hour confinement is because I wouldn't take their COVID test, and they didn't know what to do with me.
I mean, I was the first one that had ever told them, no, I'm not going to take the test.
I'm not sick.
This is from the 17th.
You get arrested on the 17th, and the three weeks is as of that time.
That's right.
I got out on, like, February 5th or something, I think.
I mean, it's so...
It's so absolutely mind-blowing.
Let's even assume that you're guilty of entering and remaining in a restricted grounds and disorderly.
Why are you not out the next day or the same day on a...
I forget what the word is now.
Reconnaissance to come to trial when you're...
They kept you in there for three weeks.
My attorney interjected that during trial.
He goes...
He goes, you know, during the Kavanaugh confirmation, there was many protesters that had much of the same actions, and they were issued $50 trespass fines and released.
And as soon as he said that, the prosecutor immediately piped up and said, oh, yes, Your Honor, but that was a peaceful protest, and we're talking about a violent insurrection.
And I was like, there you go.
That's what it's all about.
Branded it from that from the beginning, and it was horrible.
I didn't ask you this.
Wife? Kids?
Any? I have two children, and I have an ex-wife.
Not to get into all that to say, though, you're away for three weeks.
Not that it would make it any easier if you didn't have a...
They haul you off and lock you up for three weeks in the D.C. Gulag.
I've talked to Jake Lang about the conditions there.
I've talked to...
In solitary.
That's correct.
I was in there.
I was in with Dominic Peziola, Big Ol' Barnett, Jake Chansley, the showman.
Him and I would usually get out for the one hour a day together.
They had all the more higher profile guys in those.
In that area.
Yeah. I mean, I stood outside the building.
Me and Brandon Schrenko, we were some of them.
I think I was inside the top 10 arrests.
I'm not sure exactly how many were arrested before me, but not many.
But I was one of the first arrests.
And I wasn't in the Senate chambers.
I wasn't in the...
I wasn't inside the building.
I wasn't fighting with police officers.
I was praying with people and left on my own accord and did nothing disordered or disrupted.
But yet, you arrest me and throw me in there for three weeks and treat me like an animal for nothing?
I dare say the intro now, a prelude to this, could potentially explain a little bit as to why you might have been more of a bigger political target than...
Other players.
Then Ray Epps, for example.
I'm joking.
Okay, so you're in for three weeks.
You get out.
I can only imagine what that feels like to get out of a freaking prison or the D.C. Gulag.
You head back home.
How long do you have to wait to get to trial?
I can't remember how long it was, but I will say one thing.
I made my monthly commission meeting.
I never missed a meeting either.
I traveled to Washington, D.C. for January 6th, drove back to New Mexico, went to my commission, or San Diego, back to New Mexico.
Then I drove back to Washington, D.C., spent three weeks in prison, drove back to New Mexico, and I never missed the monthly meeting.
But it was torturous all the same.
Okay. So you get out.
You don't go to trial yet.
You make it back to your commission meeting.
When do they first try to disqualify you for, quote, insurrection?
You know, I'm not sure on the deck.
Probably maybe like a year later, maybe.
As I mentioned earlier, they tried to recall me first, and they couldn't get me out through a recall campaign.
So then they filed in a civil courtroom.
I had plaintiffs from outside of my county filed a civil lawsuit against me.
On grounds of insurrection.
And so I went into a civil courtroom on a bench trial before a liberal Democrat judge as a pro se defendant.
I didn't even have counsel.
I couldn't afford it.
I didn't have the money to pay for an attorney.
It was stupid to begin with.
So I went as a pro se defendant.
I went up against Lawrence Tribe, Dan Abrams, the NAACP.
All the big hitters filed, the miscus briefs are entered in.
Whenever I sat in that courtroom, David, the only one that was in there with me was my dad.
It was just me and him.
And there was about 20 attorneys on the other side, a liberal Democrat judge.
I knew I was going to get blindsided, but for the life of me, I couldn't understand why nobody wanted to help me, especially President Trump.
I didn't get any help from above.
And I wrote, believe me, I've got emails to Kash Patel.
I've got Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson.
I reached out to all of them and say, please help.
You know, I don't have, I'm all alone in this.
It was crickets.
I didn't get no help from anybody.
But Christ alone, Jesus was Lord.
You know, I mean.
It all worked out, I guess, the way it was supposed to, but it was painful to go through.
I felt very abandoned.
Sidney Powell, Sidney Powell represented me in the Tenth Circuit on a prior case.
It was a campaign finance violation.
Defending the Republic, Sidney Powell, nothing.
They didn't want to help me with anything.
So I was very disappointed and on the edge and disgusted by it, really.
Okay. I think one of the big criticisms is that Team Trump didn't do much or enough or anything to help a lot of the Jan Sixers, which is why a lot of people are calling now for full pardons for all of them because it's been four years under a Biden persecution where people were calling for Trump to preemptively pardon all Jan Sixers before he was out of office.
Well, the politics of that, I can't imagine what it was like, but how long did your bench trial in front of the D.C. judge last?
I filed an appeal.
My appeal was denied a while back.
We filed an appeal to the trespass of the D.C. Court of Appeals on the 1752.
But the D.C. Court of Appeals is a three-judge panel.
I lost two to one.
One of the judges rendered back a very good, sound legal opinion in my favor.
So the next move legally is we're going to refile that opinion back into the appellate, have all of the appellate judges vote on that opinion.
After that, then we're going to go to the United States Supreme Court.
We'll get a good decision there.
1752, that's not the same question that was in the Fisher case, is it?
The obstruction charges?
No, that was 1512.
Yeah, that's right.
No, but your actual initial trial lasts how long in front of the judge?
And what was the name of the judge again?
In D.C.?
Yeah. Yeah, the actual trial, I think, Klaus did, I don't know, maybe two or three days.
It wasn't very long.
Who was the judge?
McFadden, Trevor McFadden, he's a Trump-appointed judge.
He's had some bad rulings, as far as I recall.
Well, get this, because there was another defendant from New Mexico, Matthew Martin.
Matthew Martin went inside of the Capitol.
He went before McFadden right before I did, and McFadden acquitted him of the trespass charge, and Martin went into the building.
I stayed outside of the Capitol.
I never, you know, I didn't know it was a restricted zone.
The government didn't produce one shred of evidence, but McFadden went ahead and convicted me anyways.
And that's a hard pill to swallow, and I still have a burr under my blanket on that one.
McFadden missed the boat on that one, unfortunately for him.
I've never heard that expression, but I get the visual.
And I guess in his mind, McFadden, I have to go back and find.
Some of his statements during these trials have been outrageous, to put it mildly, but I don't remember anything offhand.
And he says, you know, time served, so no harm, no foul to you.
But he gets his W in the D.C. court system.
So you get convicted.
It's... I'm just trying to double-check.
They were misdemeanor charges, right?
These were not felony charges.
That's correct.
Okay. You get convicted on misdemeanor charges, time served, which is all actually more than if he was sentenced to two weeks, I think three weeks, and if there's a week and a half in solitary, that counts for whatever, a time and a half.
They try to recall you before they try to disqualify you back in New Mexico.
That's right.
Okay. The recall doesn't work.
The disqualification.
How do they do that?
Because this is where...
Your story did fly under the radar to the point where I think I was sufficiently immersed in Jan 6th stuff, and I hadn't heard about it until our community.
I figured exactly how the timeline worked, but I remember hearing when they said, Viva, this guy just got disqualified under the impurrection argument, and I'm like, this is the test run, or at least the astroturfing of giving it a semblance of legal justification to use it against Trump.
How did they do it against you?
You know...
You didn't hear anything about it, David, because guys like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, those guys, they didn't say anything about it.
Fox News?
Now, the New York Post, the Washington Times, Politico, the Daily Beast, if you Google by name, that's all you're going to see is all the left-leaning rags.
But, you know, it was just a charade.
Excuse me.
It was just a charade.
The whole...
It was in state district court.
You have a state district court judge on a bench trial ruling on grounds of insurrection, something that's very egregious criminal matter, in a civil courtroom.
And I filed a jurisdictional standing motion before trial that pointed that he has no jurisdictional standing to rule on that.
And he threw it out on illegal grounds.
But anybody out there that knows the law knows this.
Jurisdictional motions can even be entered in after a verdict comes in.
So that's my ace in a hole.
I'm playing it out.
I'd rather get a win in the Supreme Court.
But if I have to roll the tape back and hand this fraud out here in New Mexico's butt, we can do that too.
Okay, so now this is interesting.
So the Lawrence Tribe, who I have given many a hard time to on Twitter because he's an absolute jackass.
He's the lawyer representing...
Lawrence Tribe.
Lawrence Tribe, I believe, entered in through a viscous brief.
The lead counsel on their side, I don't even remember the guy's name.
There was a bunch of them.
Lawrence Tribe was the one pushing the 14th Amendment, paragraph 3 disqualification for Trump, which got smacked down by 9-0.
Actually, that's very interesting.
Because I'm an idiot.
Who specifically disqualifies you and then who do you have to sue or who sues who in order to get this disqualification either ratified or overturned?
A district court judge is the one that removed me from my seat.
He did so through a court order.
And not only did he remove me, but he barred me from ever holding office again.
Okay. So they basically, it was a motion to remove you from office.
They petitioned to get you removed.
It wasn't as though they removed you and then you have to petition to enjoin the reversal of the removal.
Procedurally, they go to court and say, remove him from office and the judge says, yes, you're removed under the insurrection clause.
Section 314th Amendment.
Holy shit.
Okay, fine.
A state court does it.
You appeal that decision and it comes down affirmed split two to one?
The appeals decision was on the trespass conviction, but we did appeal the insurrection, the removal.
Peter Tickton, who was a childhood friend of President Trump's, they lived together at military school.
Peter Tickton is an amazing man, a very accomplished attorney.
Peter represented me to the Supreme Court about a year ago.
And my case, brother, got right down to the very end.
And then the Supreme Court kicked it and didn't review it, which only allows New Mexico's precedents to stand.
But we can go again.
We're going to go again.
We're going to go back to the...
I'll go with the trespass conviction.
I'll go to the Supreme Court.
But the removal, I should be able to get back to the Supreme Court as well.
Okay. The U.S. Supreme Court upholds the decision barring Coy Griffin from ever holding elected office in New Mexico.
They upheld it by not reviewing it.
Yeah, that's the Supreme Court.
They didn't accept the cert, I presume.
But then what did the state court of appeal...
What was their ruling?
Obviously, they didn't overturn the initial court ruling.
Was there a split on the court of appeal in New Mexico for the removal for insurrection?
Yeah, I appealed it to the New Mexico Supreme Court first.
But... I believe that was ruled on a, it was a procedural matter why they stood behind the district court judge.
I can't even, I'm sorry, I've been in so many court battles and court, I get, I get, it's all separated in my head, you know?
Let me just bring this up here.
The state district court cited Griffin's participation in Jan 6 on the surrounding planning, mobilization, and incitement.
He also called those actions insurrection against the Constitution.
After the New Mexico Supreme Court denied Griffin's appeal, he asked the Supreme Court to hear it in 2023, and they denied his petition.
I know you're a religious man.
I will not swear.
While you're on screen.
Hey, I've lost a little of my religion over the years, too.
If ever I find any form of meaning, I'll have to atone, repent and atone for my potty mouth on Twitter.
It's so effing ridiculous.
You're charged with misdemeanor, even, say, parading and entering a restricted area.
And then some activist judge at the state level says, I deem this to be insurrection in interpreting Article 14, Section 3. This came down, however, before the Colorado decision that says it's not self-executing the disqualification.
Yeah, it's got to be legislated by a two-thirds majority vote out of Congress.
It's not self-executing law, you know?
Again, another jurisdictional argument.
He had no jurisdictional standing like this district court judge did to rule it this way.
And especially in a civil courtroom, Clarence Thomas just recently out of the Supreme Court, they had an opinion or whatever you call it, where Clarence Thomas said, you can't use a civil courtroom to prosecute somebody criminally.
That's exactly what they did to me.
They used a civil courtroom.
To prosecute me on a criminal matter.
Clarence Thomas himself said they can't do it.
So I've got good ground in the Supreme Court, I believe.
It's obligatory because it's legally incompatible with the ruling that came down on the Colorado disqualification.
I'm just trying to think, because you're a state commissioner, the removal of, it would have to take an act of Congress to remove a state commissioner.
This is where, I'll flesh this out more with my partner in crime, Robert Barnes, on Sunday night.
I don't know how that mechanism would work for Congress to remove a state commissioner from office, or at least Congress to declare someone having participated in an insurrection under the Constitution.
I don't know how the state thinks they have that authority to declare it willy-nilly, especially since the Supreme Court said, I know that you can't do it willy-nilly.
Only in New Mexico.
The Supreme Court doesn't hear it.
You have to find another basis to try and appeal the decision that was upheld by the Supreme Court of New Mexico.
Do you have one currently pending, or is this dead in the water now?
No, it's not.
In the legal world, nothing's ever dead in the water.
We've still got angles we could go out of.
I've been trying to work on the 1752 thing, though, because...
To me, that matters more because the 1752, if I could set precedence in the courtroom with that, that's going to shelter a lot of people, you know.
It's going to shield a lot of people from this trespassing charge because I was down there with hundreds of thousands of other people that were in the same area that I was.
So if they could get me, they could get them.
So that's been the most pressing.
Legal focus right now is, and I hope that Trump comes through with a part of innocence, you know, with an exoneration, not a, oh yeah, you guys are guilty, but we're going to let you go.
That's not what we want.
We want a part of innocence, which means we never should have been prosecuted in the first place.
You know, I mean, our protests were legitimate because our elections were compromised.
They were not legitimate elections.
So our right to be there is righteous in that regard.
And I pray that the president gets the message that if he doesn't come through on these pardons, the only one that's going to look bad is him.
Because we were there because they put out the call.
We wouldn't have been in D.C. if they would have called us to D.C. on January the 6th.
And we went, again, as I mentioned earlier, David, under the precept or the mindset that our elections had been stolen from us, that China stole your elections.
So you take some hillbilly like me out in New Mexico, the presidents, and I believe the president.
I don't...
Even understand what hyperbole even means.
I just believe what the words that come out of a man's mouth.
And when he says, your elections have been stolen by China, communist China stole your elections.
Well, me, I go, no, we can't let that happen.
Let's go to D.C. We go to D.C. and, you know, people get shot in the face with rubber bullets, maced, beaten.
And then somebody like Ted Cruz today has the audacity to go, oh, you know, if you committed violent acts, then you're going to be held to an extent of the law.
Ted Cruz is one of the reasons why we win.
So if that's Ted's position, does that mean that he should be held culpable for inciting violence?
Because he's the one that was telling us that.
You know, it's interesting.
I can hear people saying that, you know, I remember when, I forget who it was, one of the Jan 6 defendants saying, it sounded like the lawyer was throwing Trump under the bus by saying, Trump told us to come.
Telling you to come is, or come and, you know, it'll be wild.
I just have that printed on a shirt now, is one thing.
To get violent is another.
And I've, you know, fully appreciated now, with the footage that has since been released, that there was, you know, objective provocation.
And I would say objective agent provocation, coming to whip up a crowd, pepper spray, rubber bullets, flashbangs, provoke them, and then when they respond, lock them up, weaponize it, use it as the insurrection for the second impeachment, and to try to get Trump off the ballot three years later.
But, yeah, it's an interesting thing, like, when people say Trump said the elections were so long, I don't think anybody even now looks back and says they were legit.
The only question is, what was the mechanism that one person believes over another?
The Hunter-Biden interference is objective, undeniable.
The ballots are objective, undeniable.
And what that Time Magazine article wrote is objective and undeniable.
But you get down there, and the question is, if he doesn't pardon everybody, but the legal precedent nonetheless is the issue with this.
Your precedent stands now.
You have been removed from office for insurrection in the absence of any congressional or even legal adjudication.
That's right.
And the Supreme Court of the state of Arizona says no, or doesn't overturn it, and the Supreme Court says we're not hearing it.
And now you're stuck with that final ruling for the time being.
That's right.
For the time being.
For now.
I hate to, brother, but I'm afraid that my phone's fixing to die on me.
Don't worry about it.
Let's let it die.
When it goes black, we'll end it.
It was just flashing earlier.
Yeah, no, we can talk until it...
There's someone in the Rumble side who's asking, and it seems that there's a history.
At least he knows you.
Tim Hale, J6, says...
That Cui, you waited seven months for the ruling on 752.
He got denied his appeal.
Has Cui put in his notice to appeal that to the Supreme Court?
This impacts hundreds of defendants.
I don't know what the history is between the two of you, but it sounds like he's another Jan Sixer.
Are you appealing the 1752?
You know what?
If that question came from anybody but him, I'd answer it.
But Tim Hale is somebody that I don't trust.
I don't know if it's his girlfriend or if it's his aunt or if it's both, but him and Cynthia Hughes and the Patriot Freedom Project or whatever, they've really been warmly received by President Trump.
Trump's hosted them down at Bedminister, and it seems like they've got a big angle in with him.
But Tim Hale is somebody that's really attacked me.
He's called me a fan on the internet.
He's slandered me over and over.
And not only me, but many other Jan Sixers, too.
So, as I mentioned, if that question came from probably anybody...
I didn't mean to...
This is why I get reluctant to read certain chats because I don't know the history.
When I had Jake Lang on...
I was surprised by some of the chat that I was getting because people were accusing Jake Lang of being a Fed, a provocateur.
People wanted to be distinguished.
Okay, so, and I don't know the nuances of that, so I'll scratch that question.
If I can get to it over in Locals, if we have time for a few questions here, let me see here.
I want to understand why the Supreme Court refused to take Cui's case.
This is from Encryptus.
It makes no sense to me given the broader implications of his case.
Was the appeal itself improper or perhaps did not address the right issue?
It's before the Supreme Court ruling on the Trump removal from the Colorado ballots.
So the Supreme Court refused to hear your case before they came down with their 9-0 ruling that the exclusion is not self-executing.
Yes. Okay.
Was it a purely procedural, like you had missed a delay or something?
They don't explain why.
I don't know why they didn't review it.
It made it right to the end where there's different stages as you go to the Supreme Court.
And we made it one to the next to the next, and we made it right down to the end.
And then they just kept it and said they weren't going to review it.
I don't know why they didn't.
They should have, you know?
I mean, it's very important because what happened in my case, whenever they removed me from office, that allowed the governor of New Mexico, who's a radical left-wing Democrat, That allowed her to hand select who she wanted to go into my seat.
Who she chose to go into my seat was a Democrat who'd run for office eight times in Otero County and lost every time she ran.
That's who she put in my seat.
By the same people that will say our democracy is under attack, they use a civil courtroom and a civil lawsuit to remove duly elected officials, which allow them.
To hand-select who they want to represent the people.
That's the type of hypocrites we're dealing with.
The governor, it's still Michelle Lujan Grisham?
Yeah. She's the nutbag who banned firearms and says, basically, I am the Constitution.
She's correct.
Yeah, she's a disgrace to New Mexico.
I'll just put it that way.
She hand-picked your replacement.
That's right.
And she put in a Democrat who had run for office eight times and lost every time she had ran.
I'm reluctant even to read one of the comments in our locals community where someone's saying there better be some justice and there better be some action from the Trump administration.
Otherwise, people are going...
It's almost as if there's an overt attempt to provoke again.
Because it's so egregious.
Yeah. What are you doing now?
You know, America is a...
Work as a golf cart mechanic for a friend.
I got a friend that owns a shop in town, and he's employing me.
But times have been really tough.
I went from running a business, pastoring a church, and being kind of a pillar in the community to an insurrectionist that's in national headlines working at a $15 an hour job.
My life has really been hard.
David, and it's been hard financially.
There's a lot of organizations that raise money for J6ers, but I haven't taken anything of any of these organizations, nor, you know, I could probably get on a lot of assistance and stuff, too, and sometimes I wonder if I might need to, you know, because I've really been starved down.
What has been the impact on, like, friends and family and neighbors?
I don't know, like, what the neighborhood is like, but...
Do your neighbors avoid, like, do you have some that avoid you or are you still?
You know, that's another thing that's really hard is because, you know, you see friends sometimes that the last time you saw them, you shook their hand and said hi and spoke to them, and then the next time you see them, they turn the other way or they, you know, they don't want to associate with you.
I'm sure that I speak on behalf of many Jam Sixers that, you know, that's just kind of the blender that we've been put in, you know?
I mean, it's...
And with family, you know, I mean, I have kind of a larger extended family, and there's a lot of others that carry the last name of Griffin.
So, you know, whenever the left comes at you in a very slanderous way, or the right, just like Tim Hill earlier, you know, I mentioned, whenever he goes to...
You know, saying slanderous things on the internet.
It's very hurtful, you know.
It hurts your relationships with family, with friends, with others.
So that's been difficult.
But again, I stand right before God.
I know that God is moving and God that works all things to good for those that love Him and are called according to His purpose, which I pray that I am.
No, that's what I did.
I don't like getting into the infighting because I appreciate it, especially when people...
I'm friends with Adam Johnson, the lectern guy.
I'm close with Jake Lang.
Jake's an amazing patriot.
I met Jake on January 6th, speaking of Jake, by chance.
We were able to pray together on the west side, on the terrace.
Jake, on that day, he was trying to protect people.
There were people that were getting...
Roseanne Boylan died right in front of him.
She was savagely beaten by D.C. Officer Lila Morris, something that's never spoken about.
The media then runs the headlines that Roseanne Boylan died of a drug overdose, which was a complete lie and a complete disgrace towards Roseanne's family.
Roseanne was beaten by Lila Morris.
Was that the cause of her death?
I don't know.
Who's the Lila Morris?
Is Lila Morris a police officer?
That's correct.
If you look up Lila Morris and Roseanne Boylan, you'll see video clips that show Lila Morris salvagely beating Roseanne Boylan in the tunnel while Roseanne lay on the floor dying.
Now, if that would have been a black woman and it would have been a white police officer doing that to her...
D.C. would have burned to the ground.
But since it was a white woman and a black police officer beating her...
I mean, I'm sorry to just state the facts, but that's just kind of the mindset, especially in the media, and those that play off the sensationalizing things.
Lila Morris is a black woman.
That's correct.
I didn't know that.
I knew Roseanne Bullion had been trampled and hit.
I didn't realize that.
But now you have two white women who were killed by two black police officers.
That's correct.
And now they've put two and two together.
That's correct.
And, you know, I mean, an unarmed white woman that was an Air Force veteran, what if that would have been an unarmed black woman that would have been an Air Force veteran that would have just been trying to crawl through a window, not posing any threat to anybody, and a white police officer would have shot her?
You wouldn't even know who George Floyd was.
They would have blown it up so big, you know?
But that's the...
That's the evil of the media today.
The media doesn't like to be called fake news, but if they don't want to be called fake news, they need to stop spinning fake narratives.
It's just report the truth.
Holy crap, yep, and Merchant Marine.
Well, Merchant Marine in our local community says they murdered Roseanne.
We all remember the initial reports, but then they blamed it on a drug overdose, and it was either the Epoch Times, pretty sure it was the Epoch Times, but it might have been...
Although I think it was Epoch Times.
They did a report saying, yeah, when they said it was a methamphetamine overdose, it was amphetamines that she was using for ADHD or ADD, and it wasn't an overdose.
They just used that as a pretext to confuse everybody who can't distinguish between whatever medication they give you for ADHD and methamphetamines, and that she was quite clearly not, you know, didn't die of an overdose.
It was quite clearly traumatic injury.
Sure it was.
Very traumatic.
And on the lines of Lila Morris, whenever I had my insurrection trial in Santa Fe, New Mexico, Metro Police Officer Daniel Hodges, who was one of the enshrined officers of the January 6th committee and one that they made such a hero.
I had Daniel Hodges under oath during cross-examination, and I asked him if he knew Lila Morris.
And he looked me dead in the eye and said, no, I don't know her.
And I said, are you sure you're under oath?
No, I don't know her.
I said, well, that's funny.
I saw a picture of you and her and Michael Fanone as MVP-invited guests to the Super Bowl.
And whenever I said that, Daniel Hodges looked down with a presidential medal.
Of freedom or whatever, pinned his shirt.
He looked down and said, oh yeah, I know her.
Lying under oath.
And they just get away with it.
They're liars.
Michael Fanone's what Harry done.
He's even too dumb to lie.
I mean, he's just a dumb dumb.
And they're all a bunch of liars.
They get caught in their lies all the time.
but the media tries to portray him as these big heroes and not even Sean Penn can get them to be in a good actor stage.
You know, I mean, they're just, they're frauds through and through and we're sick of it.
Outrageous. You know what, Koi, I'll take advantage of the time before your phone goes dead that we'll say our proper goodbyes offline.
Thank you, everybody.
If people want to support you, what can they do?
You know, I've got a Gibson Go account at GibsonGo.com backslash fight.
And you can look me up on there.
Cash app is the cash symbol in my name, Koi Griffin.
And on Venmo, it's Koi-Griffin.
But, you know, Christmas is coming up.
I don't know how I'm going to provide for my family.
I can't even hardly pay my life.
I speak that honestly.
The last two months, I've had to get my mom to help me with just my utilities and stuff.
This has cost me a lot.
I don't do it for money.
I try to do it as the Lord leads and to make a sacrifice and do all things for God and country.
But at the end of the day, I'd like to be able to provide for my family, too.
And my two kids would like to be able to provide a good Christmas for them.
And so if anybody out there believes in my cause, believes in my fight, and is grateful for the sacrifice that I've made, I'd be ever grateful for your help.
Coit, you'll send me the links afterwards, and I'll put them in the pinned comments, and I'll blast them around my community.
Okay, and we're going to end it on that.
Let me just make sure.
I'm nervous that I don't want to forget any question that I...
I think I got to everything.
Hello from Rio Rancho, New Mexico, says loves liberty.
New Mexico is a beautiful state, minus the politics.
You know, the Bible says that one day the last will become first and the first will become last.
I pray that over my state all the time.
I pray for New Mexico.
I pray that, you know, that one day we'll be able to get representation.
I pray for our loggers, our sawmillers, our communities are burning down for mismanaged forests out here.
The people are starved out to the point they got to go to work for the government in order to get a check.
You know, small businesses are crushed.
Our governor is a complete lunatic that all she does is want to grow government.
Create new rights for people.
You know, it's just terrible.
But I do stand in faith.
I do pray.
And I do believe that one day all things will be made right.
And I also, before we get off here, I'd like to apologize to Tim Hale for kind of firing back at him a minute ago.
That's not who I am.
Cynthia Hughes, I've never even met.
I've only heard about.
But I'd like to clear my conscience right quick and just, you know, I wish that Tim Hill wouldn't act the way that he does and come at me the way he does.
But Tim, if you're still watching, I forgive you for it and I pray that you find the Lord and no hard feelings on my end.
And I didn't mean to actually start any fights that I did not know existed.
No, I think the things I think...
No, no, because there's obviously an internal dynamic that I'm...
Not aware of, or at least internal politics, for lack of a better word.
And I think the problem is, you can see what happens where people get different treatments for circumstances, and it leads to suspicion, strife, and whatever.
I don't think...
When people call Jake a Fed, I was like, how the hell does a Fed stay in jail for four years?
I had a friend...
Nobody sets a higher bar than Jake Legg.
Jake Legg has been tortured like...
No other individual that I've ever known of.
And he still loves people.
Just like Tim Hale.
Tim Hale said some horrible things about Jake.
And Jake, whenever Jake responds to Tim, he always does so in love, with grace, with mercy.
And, you know, Jake Lane's a hero to me.
He's a great guy.
I know him relatively well.
I can see what people's problem is with him in that, yeah, he goes and raises shit and stirs up things and gives podcasts and shoots video from prison and then, you know, complains when he's thrown into solitary as if to say, like, okay, so now that you're in jail, just shut up and deal with it.
And I can understand the fact that he believes that he needs to be an activist prisoner right now.
He's a fighter.
He's a fighter.
He's wired that way.
His dad, dead legs, a side wife.
Those guys, they got that New York grit to them, you know?
And it's respectable.
They stand up for what they believe in.
They don't back down.
And they love our country.
They're good people.
And they should be respected.
I know Ned have gotten to know him fairly well.
And Ned's a good man, too.
You know, the Langs are good people.
And one day, I think history is going to shine a very bright and gentle light on that family.
And one word to Trump is blanket pardons across, which would resolve all of your matter-of-fact woes, but wouldn't undo the precedent.
Pardons for everybody.
Pardon of innocence.
That's important.
Not just a pardon.
Not just a, yeah, you were wrong, like Hunter.
Not a Hunter pardon, but a pardon of innocence.
A pardon where, you know, we're completely exonerated.
That's what we're looking for, and that's what I stand united with.
If anybody...
Should deserve a pardon from that day.
It should be me.
And I've said so publicly, time and again, that I will refuse a pardon unless everybody's pardoned.
Because where we go one, we go all.
We're all in this together.
That's the mindset of the Patriots.
And we'll stand shoulder to shoulder.
And we need to push through this.
Because, you know, if not, we can't leave one behind.
Not one.
All. And that's our position.
Perfect way to end it.
Kui, stay here.
We'll say our proper goodbyes.
We're going to end the stream.
So everyone out there, Kui, send me the links and I'll pin them.