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Oct. 15, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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Live with Border Patrol Whistleblower Zachary Apotheker! Viva Frei Interview

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	The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes, and the mayor said our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns.
	A handful of problems.
	Only, Martha, do you hear yourself?
	Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs and Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's open border.
	Americans are so fed up with what's going on and they have every right to be.
	And I really find this exchange, Martha, sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said rather than acknowledging that apartment complexes in the United States We've got to get American communities in a safe space again.
	And unfortunately, when you let people in by the millions...
	Most of whom are unvetted.
	Most of whom you don't know who they really are.
	You're going to have problems like this.
	Kamala Harris, 94 executive orders that undid Donald Trump's successful border policies.
	We knew this stuff would happen.
	They bragged about opening the border.
	And now we have the consequences and we're living with it.
	We can do so much better.
	But frankly, we're not going to do better, Martha, unless Donald Trump calls this stuff out.
	I'm glad that he did.
	You have to laugh at something this patently preposterous.
	First of all, her face looks like she's about to cry.
	And I'm not saying that because she's a woman.
	I'm saying that because it looks like she's gagging on her own horse crap.
	And she's like, it's only a handful of apartment complexes that have been taken over by illegal Venezuelan gangs.
	And it's J.D. Vance's face at the beginning.
	I put out a tweet yesterday, I said as a joke, like, I forget her name now, but J.D. Vance is too polite to call this woman an idiot.
	I'm not.
	This woman is an absolute idiot.
	A propagandist, narrative-towing liar scumbag of an idiot.
	But look at the way J.D.'s, like, he almost bursts into laughter at the abject stupidity of what she is saying.
	I forget her name, that doesn't matter.
	We're limited to a handful of apartment clients.
	It's a handful of apartment complexes.
	They only took over a few blocks of the city.
	The rest of the city's good, people.
	Don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	Conflicts on apartment complexes and the mayor said our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns.
	The mayor has said we've acted on those concerns.
	Do you think the mayor is going to have a vested interest in highlighting the violent, deadly consequences of their failed policy?
	Do you think the mayor...
	Would have an interest in highlighting it or minimizing it.
	You jackass.
	And I'm referring to her.
	But look at JD.
	A handful of problems.
	Just a handful.
	Right here.
	Only Martha.
	Do you hear yourself?
	Oh my goodness.
	And the way he leads it.
	Like right here.
	Do you get like leading in with his head?
	Like, are you serious?
	Do you hear yourself?
	Only, Martha, do you hear yourself?
	Only a handful of apartment complexes?
	And his voice cracks.
	It's amazing.
	Gadsad put out a hilarious, I mean, a hilarious sad analysis of this.
	Just a handful of apartment complexes taken over by illegal aliens that have flooded the porous border under the not-bordazar Kamala Harris.
	All right, by the way, that's a very fitting intro that we have because we have Zach Apotheker, and I'm fairly certain I'm pronouncing the last name right, but Apotheker, who is one of the whistleblowers or the Border Patrol agent whistleblower in...
	James O'Keefe's new documentary, Line in the Sand, which I didn't realize it was behind a paywall on Tucker Carlson Network, everybody.
	And so I found it on Rumble thinking it was like sort of one of those copyright-free type things.
	And then I immediately felt A, guilty, and B, stupid.
	And so I went and donated 500 bucks to OMG Media, and I subscribed to Tucker Carlson Network to make up for my stupid bad bet.
	But before we get into it, people, he's in the backdrop.
	When you listen to Zach talk, if you haven't already heard him talk, it's going to feel like we've entered...
	Goodwill hunting.
	On steroids, people.
	You'll know what I mean in a second.
	I think I see that.
	Okay, I'm going to see if Zach is still sticking around or if I insult him.
	It's a Boston accent, people.
	It's fantastic.
	It's awesome.
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	This is going to be amazing.
	I see Zach in the backdrop.
	Do I give the brief intro, or should...
	Let me just make sure I've got a text and see.
	Okay, fine.
	I'm just going to have to put that on pause for a second.
	Zach, I'm bringing you in.
	You're going to give your resume here.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Sir, how goes that?
	What's going on, brother?
	I don't have much of an intro, man.
	I got thrown into this whole situation, and here we are.
	I mean, I'm nothing spectacular.
	I'm nothing noteworthy.
	I just, you know, work in the Border Patrol, a bunch of people getting let in.
	Only a few apartment complexes are getting taken over.
	Not really a huge deal.
	And I said, I had enough of this.
	I said, I'm not playing your game.
	I'm looking around.
	I'm going, does anybody else see what I'm seeing?
	I've had enough.
	Reached out to Jimmy O'Keefe.
	He's a stubborn mule.
	Because I've seen him doing some border work.
	I haven't been able to talk about the movie.
	And cut me off at any time.
	I'm never going to cut you off.
	Anytime you want, brother.
	But I've seen Jimmy O'Keefe.
	Working with some, like, he was doing the preliminary stuff before this movie came out.
	He was doing little clips, and I just reached out to him because I was like, I had been thinking about this.
	I'm like, someone needs to, like, really look into it, but I don't have the time and energy because, like, there's multiple steps to this process of getting our country invaded, essentially.
	And I reached out to the Stubborn Yule.
	I didn't know the kid nothing.
	I just sent him a quick signal message.
	He said, you're like, I'm like, you're good on this, but you're also, like, far off.
	Like, you're, like, not really.
	You don't even have a clue what you don't even know.
	And neither do I, but you're probably the...
	I'm thinking, like, he's probably the dude to go into it.
	So then he goes, like, in his fashion, he goes, what do you mean?
	Who are you?
	I go, I'm a Border Patrol agent.
	I'm telling you, like, you're not even close to where you gotta be.
	And then it, like, set a bell off in his mind to go on this journey.
	And we just stayed in touch.
	He's like, dude, I'm going, Doc.
	I'm gonna be in Aeropuerto, Mexico.
	Like, I'm not gonna be around for a while, but I'll circle back around.
	And he was just like, hey, you want to be in this movie?
	I was like, and then I'm like, I wasn't expecting to be in a movie.
	I'm like, and it was weird because the day that he asked me, the movie had already been filmed pretty much up until the end.
	But Donald Trump had just been shot as we were talking.
	Like we're talking and that's when he got shot in the air.
	I'm like, if that's not a sign, because if that boat went through, I go, we're not even promised tomorrow.
	I might as well just let the American people know how one Border Patrol agent feels.
	That's how it came together.
	It's amazing, and we're going to get into the thick of everything, because I got so many questions about logistically how it works as a Border Patrol agent, northern border, southern border, etc.
	But first things first, you quite clearly have a very thick Boston accent.
	Are you born and raised in Boston?
	Dude, it's weird.
	So, right now, to live in Boston, you're either going to be a doctor or an illegal or, like, heavily on Section 8. The city is completely gentrified and changed.
	My father was born in Charlestown.
	I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Town.
	He grew up in the Bunker.
	My father spent time in the Bunker Hill projects.
	So, my family's from Boston.
	But what ended up happening was they did the school busting in the 70s.
	And my brothers that died, they're older than me.
	They were born in 77 and 80. So, they integrated the school systems, meaning, like, there was, you know, Boston's a very segregated city.
	And not go too deep in it.
	And the politicians back then, they said, we're going to take the white neighborhoods and we're going to integrate with the black neighborhoods.
	And a lot of people didn't want this.
	But logistically, the kids were getting sent from West Roxbury, where my family was living at the time, which is a neighborhood of Boston, all the way to like...
	I don't know, Dorchester, which with traffic could be 45 minutes.
	So they were busting these kids to different neighborhoods.
	So at that time, a lot of families fled the city to go to the suburbs, and they were a little bit cheaper too at the time.
	So I'm a South Shore guy.
	So I grew up, I went to Brockton High School.
	Rocky Marciano, Marvin Havre, two of the best fighters in the world.
	I went to Brockton High, proud graduate.
	I grew up in Stoughton, a small little town.
	It's like a...
	It's gotten built up.
	It's like a little farm town.
	You grew up in that town.
	You've never been on an elevator in your entire life type of thing.
	If you go to Boston, that's far, but it's like nine miles.
	But we don't leave our neighborhood.
	So I'm not a Boston guy, but I'm a social worker.
	It's weird.
	You're talking to someone from Montreal, Canada.
	So long as you're within 50 miles of Boston, you're a Boston guy.
	I'm joking, but the accent is...
	I was listening to the documentary.
	I know that from somewhere.
	And it was from Goodwill Hunting, where we have the Southies in Goodwill Hunting.
	Oh, yeah.
	South Boston, Charleston.
	I know all them Irish.
	I grew up around the...
	The Southies was a bunch of Irish.
	Yeah, of course, it's like a Boston thing.
	But people from those neighborhoods, if you say you're from Boston and you're not born on that, I can grow up 10 miles from you.
	If you're from Hyde Park and I'm from Stoughton, and I say I'm from Boston, those Hyde Park kids are going to want to fight you.
	So 10 miles is like a whole other world.
	I didn't know you were in Montreal, dude.
	I go there all the time.
	And that's what James was telling me about the documentary, that the last scene is, I think, on the border of Quebec near Lake Memphremagog?
	Yeah, you know, are you familiar with, like, the eastern provinces?
	Yeah, my wife is from the eastern townships.
	Oh, that's awesome!
	Dude, you're my neighbor!
	We're hanging out, then!
	We gotta hang out!
	I'm right down the road from you.
	Well, now I live in Florida, but she was born in a town called Bedford.
	And they had, at one point in time, a raid where a third of the town was arrested on drug trafficking charges because they had this massive ring of drug smuggling between...
	It was a border town, so totally wild.
	But hold on.
	How old are you?
	Are you 20, 26?
	31. 31, brother.
	31. 31, born and raised in the Boston area.
	I mean, I know something from the movie which we're going to have to get into because it's tragic and I think it's...
	No, I think it's got to be life-altering and life-defining.
	But what did your parents do?
	Or what do your parents do?
	My old man, he just sold his taxi cab because an illegal alien rammed into my father.
	My father's a Boston taxi cab driver.
	My dad is like a street...
	My dad never graduated from eighth grade.
	So he's not like...
	We're not like highfalutin people.
	So my dad was a taxi driver.
	We sold Italian ice at the mall.
	At fairgrounds.
	My dad never liked having a boss.
	You know what I mean?
	That's why I got into civil service.
	He's like, dude, you should just do civil service.
	So my old man was a DJ in the 90s, did weddings.
	My mother never worked a day in her life.
	God bless her.
	You know what I mean?
	She's still around.
	She's a homemaker.
	So, yeah, that's what my parents did.
	And I know this from the documentary that...
	Is it two of your brothers or both of your brothers?
	Both brothers.
	I only had two.
	They were both older than me.
	My parents had them.
	My parents got married when they were 20, so they had my brother at 20 and 23. My mother had me at 36. My brothers were much older than I. It was only three of us.
	And good athletes.
	My brother played minor league baseball for the Florida Mounds, actually.
	And the whole time he was just...
	My whole area was ravaged.
	Boston, like the working class neighborhood, was ravaged by drugs.
	Like I've lost probably 20 friends.
	Everyone was on drugs.
	Both my brothers died of overdoses.
	Cocaine, heroin, the whole nine years.
	They like to potty, like to get crazy.
	But it started with the pain pills, you know, and all the oxycontin, all the opioids.
	And, you know, we didn't know it was an epidemic back then.
	So both my brothers and that's why I got into the Border Patrol, essentially.
	I mean, that was like the thing.
	How did they die?
	For everybody who doesn't necessarily appreciate this now, your brothers died of overdoses.
	Was it not at the same event or was it sequential?
	Within a year apart.
	I mean, because my older brother, he was three years old, so my middle brother died and my older brother felt guilty.
	He's like, I'm the one who, you know, I was his role model.
	But they were just both on drugs.
	They were both functioning, you know, one worked at a prison, one was a car salesman.
	And yeah, it was within a year, like 18 months of each other.
	They both died.
	And I had to watch my parents bury both my brothers, man.
	That'll change you.
	Can you imagine losing one kid and now losing two?
	And I'm the only third son to live, you know what I mean?
	And it probably would have been me, to be honest with you, because they didn't know anything.
	They were good guys.
	They were awesome.
	They were patriarchs, good dudes, good kids.
	But they were older than me, so I knew what not to do, right?
	You see your older brothers.
	They're your heroes.
	They were tough kids.
	And I had a good last name in my town.
	People appreciated it.
	They were respected.
	And they got on drugs.
	And I just go, however he's acting, I got to do the complete opposite because I'm never going to be like that.
	I'm never.
	I'm never going to give anyone the satisfaction of seeing me high or, you know, running around buying drugs, doing crazy stuff because it's disgusting, you know?
	I mean, it's a sick thing.
	And then, you know, I show up at, you know, when the police show up at the house and they knock on the door.
	And you've got to watch your mother.
	Literally, it was like a movie.
	It's surreal.
	I'm watching the cop talk to my mother and father.
	My father puts his head down and starts crying.
	And my father, I'd never seen the guy cry.
	You know what I mean?
	And I just remember him screaming, like, I should be in the casket with him.
	I don't want to live no more.
	I want to get in the casket with him.
	What about me and Ma?
	It's a very painful thing, but at the same time, no one put a gun to their head and said, like, you need to take drugs.
	How old were you when it happened?
	Right before I joined the Border Patrol.
	So I joined at 27. So it's like 25 and 26. This is relatively recent.
	Six years.
	Yeah, it was in the last five, six years.
	So when that happens, I just want to give you an idea.
	When that happens, there's no fame or money.
	I'm on a kamikaze mission of truth now because there's nothing that's ever going to bring my brothers back.
	My older brothers that I love, my heroes, they'll never come back.
	My parents are never going to be the same.
	So if this is the battle for me, that's fine because my life is always going to be forever altered.
	And you have to go on and continue to live and prosper in a good life.
	That's what I would say.
	And I have God in my life and I try to live the best life I can and have hope and joy because that's a testament to my faith.
	But as far as getting anything out of this or getting anything other than my country back and standing for truth, nothing will ever bring them back.
	So there's no end goal for me.
	I'm on the path of just the truth because...
	There's nothing you can do that's gonna...
	My brother's been taken from me, man.
	I don't know if you've ever had somebody close lose you, but then two heroes...
	The food is never gonna taste the same, bro.
	It's never gonna be...
	The happiest moments of my life will never be there because both my brothers are gone.
	It'll never be maxed out.
	Never someone that close.
	There was something in the family, but in the family is different than that close.
	I don't know how...
	Parents get over it?
	They don't get over it.
	I don't know what happens.
	And from your perspective, to say it's a life-altering tragedy, it's an understatement of epic proportions.
	My brother had five kids.
	What about the kids?
	I mean, I'm crying as the brother.
	Imagine the kids.
	I mean, are you kidding me?
	It's crazy, dude.
	It's insane.
	But this is nothing.
	Like, in my area, that's normal.
	When you grow up on the South Shore...
	Your brother, your father, or your best friend dying of an OD, that's normal the last 20 years.
	That's like every day.
	Like, so what?
	I'm not the only kid who has had two brothers OD.
	It's like not a crazy occurrence.
	In the 80s, that would have been.
	You know?
	90s. But after this epidemic, it's like an everyday thing.
	It's more normal than not, almost.
	So this happens.
	You get into the Border Patrol.
	Was it...
	Not causally?
	Were you already planning to get involved in the board?
	Yeah, I was already planning.
	I was already planning because it's not that relevant, but my best friend is, he was a Marine sniper, and then he's now in the Army.
	He switched over, but he just told me, like, there's more to you, because I was working on a different job.
	He's like, there's more for you than this.
	Like, you should get out and, like, you should, like...
	You get into law enforcement because he's like, you're a smart kid.
	And, you know, he's a Marine sniper.
	He's like, you like camaraderie.
	You like guys having your back.
	Like, you fit the bill for somebody that wants to get into, like, law enforcement and help people.
	He's like, you're just not doing it here.
	So he kind of put the bug in my head.
	Okay, very cool.
	And what training goes into it?
	Like, to become a border agent?
	You carry guns.
	You have, I don't know if you have police authority.
	Like, what goes into the training?
	And I need, well, obviously going to get to the trajectory of getting involved, seeing what's going on, where you're deployed, and then deciding to blow the whistle as in tell the truth as to what the hell is happening at the dereliction of duty at the border.
	What goes into the training?
	These are great questions, man.
	I commend you.
	It's kind of fascinating because it's like a weird thing.
	It's like you're not really a cop, but you're like also in law.
	It's like a weird thing, right?
	Like Border Patrol.
	I didn't even know what it was really.
	I've seen Trump on one of his commencement speeches talk about it.
	I was like, what is that?
	Growing up around Boston, you don't know what it is.
	The training is very, very good.
	The actual organization gets you ready.
	When I hit the field for the first time, I was extremely ready, man.
	The training, you go down to FLETC, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, they have their own compound.
	It's a federal compound in New Mexico.
	Not too far from the border.
	So around the same landscape, you're going to be on the southern border.
	And they get you locked.
	Firearms, crazy.
	Better than most police departments.
	I shot all these different guns, rifles.
	I never shot a gun before.
	In mass, it's like passing an act of Congress to get a friggin...
	LTC. It's not easy.
	You don't just go and buy one.
	It's hard to come by guns.
	They teach you how to shoot.
	You put so many bullets down range.
	It's over six months at this training.
	You get Spanish classes.
	Sounds like military training, practically.
	Yeah, I was never in the military.
	I can't compare.
	I don't want to disparage that.
	It's no joke.
	You're away from home in a dedicated location for an extended period of time, day in and day out.
	Firearms, fitness, language.
	And technical training.
	And technical giving commands and stuff.
	The only difference is you get weekends and nights off.
	We like to make a joke in the Border Patrol.
	When they want you to do something, they compare it to military training.
	But then when it's time for other stuff, they don't.
	It's paramilitary.
	It's pretty intense.
	They do role-playing.
	You'll be out there by yourself with the fake guns.
	And you have people that are like...
	You know, Hispanic.
	They'll get role players from the town, right?
	So they're speaking Spanish.
	They're running past you.
	So, like, the first couple of weeks I was out in the field because it was busy.
	I was actually catching people.
	We were returning them.
	It felt like, I was like, am I at the academy?
	And I had to, like, look down.
	I'm like, no, no.
	This is, like, a real deal.
	They, like, do it so good.
	It's ingrained in you that you just feel like you're still in the academy role playing, but you're in real life.
	So you're not nervous.
	You're like, this is...
	By the time you...
	They do just a great job.
	By the time you're there...
	You're ready.
	As far as I was concerned, because I was concerned, like, are they going to train me up to be ready for this?
	I'm like, who knows?
	But no, you're good to go.
	But interestingly enough, let me say this.
	I was there during COVID brutalizing because they wouldn't let us leave the compound and they weren't paying us.
	So they said, you can leave.
	If you leave, you're done.
	You lose your job.
	And then they mandated us to our rooms.
	We couldn't leave our rooms.
	I'm like, this is a civilian law enforcement job.
	How are you making me stay in my room in order to keep the job?
	There's like all these problems, right?
	They were delivering us food to our rooms.
	We're stuck in our little barracks room for like weeks at a time.
	But the instructors could come and go.
	And then they said, if you want to leave the compound, you have to get the COVID shot.
	I'm not that smart of a kid.
	I'm like, whatever.
	I'm not even really watching the news at this time.
	I just want to leave and go get a cheeseburger.
	I want to get out of here.
	I've been on the same federal compound for eight months.
	It's not a big compound.
	I'm like, just give me whatever it takes to get me this shot so I can leave.
	Now, looking back, I'm waiting for my heart to stop working because of this COVID thing.
	I don't know, but they waved it in front of me.
	I was like, if you want to get off, you'll take the shot.
	It was crazy.
	I'm only asking so that we can relate to each other's neuroses.
	You only got two and done?
	Yeah, I got the Pfizer one and two.
	They, like, made us take a picture in the parking lot.
	They were screaming, like, get out there and smile that you just got this shot!
	I'm like, it's like some lady.
	No, it's insane.
	Well, it's been a long time.
	You should be good in touch with us.
	We can talk about that afterwards.
	I got duped, pretty much.
	I got duped into taking that shot, dude.
	I'm not proud of it at all.
	We all got duped or pressured by nagging, loving family members.
	Just for my own curiosity, New Mexico compound, is it within the beautiful mountains of New Mexico?
	It's the desert.
	It's Artesia.
	Artesia's horrible.
	It's like dusty and it's definitely not Disneyland, but I'm not going to say it's such a hard thing.
	Anybody can do it.
	If you put your mind to it and you're in decent enough shape, you can do it.
	And especially now because they need people for all this processing, they're like dumbing it down even more than when I was there to get as many people to process as possible.
	But the dudes that came before me, they're like a lot of these old school border agents.
	They're tough dudes.
	It was like a job.
	What I heard through the grapevine was like it was like a way to like incorporate like Vietnam vets and stuff and get them back in the society but not put them in the – like it's like a lot of – it's a big military.
	A lot of guys come out of the military, it's a great job because you keep your retirement years, your years in service.
	And a lot of guys go and they get into the FBI, DEA.
	They stay federal.
	You keep your years in service and – When I was first on the line, I was catching sometimes six, seven different groups a day.
	I was slapping handcuffs on 20 people a day, tackling them, getting after it.
	If you want to be active and tough, it was a great job to track groups, tackle people, encounter guns, drugs, everything.
	Yes. For someone with a morbid fear of death, and other people sometimes for that matter.
	Yeah, I can't think of anything that would be more terrifying and induce PTSD on a minutely basis.
	Training, you pass your class, and then you get sent out into the field.
	Are you only working the southern border, and are you only working the southern border in one state?
	Or do they, like, not patrol you, but displace you to Texas, Cali, New Mexico, Arizona, depending on needs?
	It's all dependent on needs, but you go through this long hiring process.
	Like, they give you a polygraph, which is like, who knows what the, you know, I don't even know what the real reason they do that is.
	Like, because it's like no rhyme or reason.
	They can tell somebody's lying and all.
	I don't know.
	What do they ask you?
	What do they ask you in your polygraph?
	They, like, sit there and don't move.
	They just basically, it's like an intimidation tactic.
	Like, they just want to, like, play mind game.
	I don't know what the point of it is.
	Like, they say to be aligned, it's like, I don't know if it's agreeableness to see if your heart rate goes up.
	They just ask you if you have a committed, if you have how much, like, you fill out a questionnaire.
	Like, I never did drugs.
	Have you done drugs?
	Have you done this?
	Have you done that?
	And then they want to match up, but they're going to, they could just say, hey, you're lying, even though you're not lying.
	So you're just going to remain calm and just, like, tell the truth.
	My buddy who was in the military, he was, like, higher level.
	He's like, dude.
	They don't even care what you really did so much.
	He's like, I know you.
	You're really not a bad kid.
	He's like, just don't lie.
	He's like, beyond all else.
	He's like, and then just stay to what the truth is.
	Don't let them convince you that you think you're lying.
	Like, if you're not lying, just stand your ground.
	So, they do that.
	But that could take up to a year, 18 months, that hiring process.
	At the very end of it, they call you and give you 48 hours and a list of stations.
	So, you don't even know where you're going.
	Like, until, like, right at the end.
	What do you do for a year and a half while you're waiting to get hired?
	Are you working somewhere else?
	Yeah, you pretend like you don't even have the job.
	You know what I mean?
	You're just like, if I get this job, I get it.
	And then they're like, all right, you have two days to make a choice.
	Here are your listed stations.
	Sometimes they give you one station.
	Sometimes they give you 10 for a different hiring thing.
	So you don't even...
	And like, I'm from Mass.
	I've never been to the Southern Border.
	I don't know these stations.
	I looked on a map and I picked up one closest to Phoenix.
	I'm like, that seemed like, I don't know, the Arizona Cardinals?
	I should have grabbed a smaller map because where I picked and where I was in relation to Phoenix was pretty far away, you know?
	Yep. Now, let me ask you the indiscreet question.
	What does the job pay for a first year?
	It's on a GS scale, so I came in as a 7, but 5. What's a GS scale?
	Any federal, like FBI, DEA agents.
	Anyone that's like a federal law enforcement employee or just like a federal employee, they have like different steps.
	So you can never make more than like a congressman or senator, which is like 187, but like that's like for the high upboard patrol guys.
	So you come in making like as a seven maybe with locality pay.
	They have different pay with overtime and stuff.
	It gets convoluted.
	Maybe 70 G's your first year, and it bumps like 12 G's a year after that, 10 to 12. Okay, so you get the job, and I presume you're excited because you've put in now.
	You've been training and you've been waiting an extended period of time and they deploy you to...
	I'm excited to get off the compound, brother.
	I'm just excited to get off the freaking compound.
	At this point, I'm like, what the hell are they doing to me?
	It wasn't much of a welcome.
	I just want to get back into society after eight months.
	Wow. Okay.
	And so they train you, but I guess explain to me, an idiot, what the hell are the Border Patrol agents doing at the border?
	Like, what is your stated objective or your mission as it's given to you?
	Are you there to count the people crossing or are you there to arrest?
	And when they say, like, you know, arrest and return...
	I don't even understand how it works.
	Once a person is across the border illegally in another country, you arrest them.
	You process them.
	Tell us what happens.
	How are you supposed to physically just put them back in the foreign country?
	That's a great question, man.
	So they have pathways, and each sector has different guidances, which could change daily or hourly.
	So they have different, like the guidance will be, you have a notice to appear on their own recognizance, you have an expedited removal, a voluntary removal, and all these different pathways, the pathway of processing paperwork, that if I catch somebody today, and... They have no prior arrests.
	They're from this country.
	Then there's a guideline.
	There's a go-by to go off of.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah. So you match what country they're from, how many times they've been arrested.
	And if they have no guns or drugs and they're not going to be prosecuted, this is what you do if you catch someone like this.
	If you catch somebody in this situation, you process their paperwork like that.
	And then to remove them, you have general contracting companies to bring them back.
	Or if your station is closed enough, you can return them to Mexico like the Border Patrol agents will do.
	So there's just different situations depending on how far you are from the border.
	So basically, if I could oversimplify it, there'll be a gradient scale, but it seems that for the most part, what percentage would be then catch, process, and then await whatever date they have versus immediate return to the foreign country?
	Well, it depends on the station and it depends what time period.
	So what are you talking about where I'm at now?
	Are you talking about the southern border a couple months ago?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	At the very worst, it really depends.
	But the very worst of it on the southern border, it was like not, I could personally say from my anecdotal experience, and I don't have the numbers, and they try to ad hominem attack the crap out of me to delegitimize me.
	When I was there, it was everyone was getting NTAO-R'd or paroled in.
	Single adult.
	We were just catching them.
	They were showing up.
	We were getting them.
	We're using all our resources just to get them and put them on a bus and get them in the Phoenix within like a day.
	N-T-O-R.
	And notice to appear on your own recognizance.
	That's what I'm understanding.
	It's basically, unless you're, I don't know what you're dealing with, how you can even know definitively that someone was convicted of murder drug trafficking from, I don't know, Venezuela.
	They're not giving you the records.
	So they come in and you say, okay, well, what's your name?
	How do you get someone's info if they have no paperwork?
	Let's start with that.
	You just take their word for it, brother.
	Okay. How do you know that those who have paperwork, that the paperwork is not fraudulent?
	I don't know.
	I guess you rely on the system.
	I mean, how would you?
	In your experience, and again, nothing more than anecdotal, but were you able to determine that people clearly had fake paperwork?
	Yeah, it was a joke.
	I mean, it's a laughable joke spit in the face to a guy like me and a bunch of other patriots that are working for the Border Patrol, for sure.
	These guys are laughing at you, dude.
	They don't care.
	They don't even speak.
	We're not talking about South Americans.
	We're talking about from Africa, from Mauritania, that there's no translation service for these guys.
	Because then they're going to the hospital complaining that their tummy hurts.
	And maybe they do have pains and stuff.
	I took one guy.
	We couldn't communicate because there's no translation.
	In his village, they speak a certain dialect of tongue, of whatever, that you can't even translate.
	He's not even giving you a name or a doc that you think is fake.
	How did this guy even get to Mexico?
	It's another question.
	I'm looking up more.
	They do speak French, but they also have a local dialect.
	Yeah, they have French, they have Arabic.
	But I'm telling you, this was far off.
	Trust me, there was no...
	No, because this explains to me how I had on...
	And I'm going to forget his name and it'll come to me in a second.
	Oh, come on.
	It's going to come to me.
	I'm an idiot.
	Too many names.
	Explaining how people are going through the Darien Gap and...
	Oh, maybe Michael Yon?
	Michael Yon, for goodness sake, yes.
	I hope he survived his 60 days of fasting.
	You guys are crazy.
	Guy's a bull.
	Don't get me confused with this guy.
	He's like a friggin' hero animal.
	I'm just like a regular Joe Schmoe, but that guy's legit.
	I'm gonna watch an episode.
	He's explaining to me that you have Chinese nationals, you have some Middle Easterns, you have North Africans.
	You're sitting there as a border agent.
	First of all, first question first.
	You are literally physically risking your lives with every intervention, period.
	You're coming across people who are doing something illegal, either out of trafficking, which we're going to get to, or out of desperation, both of which are going to lead to them wanting to defend either their prospective freedom, or in both cases.
	You capture them.
	You are left to processing them and then literally releasing them, knowing that what percentage ever show up on their own recognizance?
	I would have to say it's less than 5%, 4%, 3%.
	I mean, dude, they're not showing up to court.
	And the court dates are four or five years old.
	Let me ask you this.
	Why would anyone do what you're doing?
	Why would you risk your life to not just push paper, but to do something that was going to absolutely do nothing at the end of the day?
	Why would anyone risk their physical safety to do that?
	You know, these give-up groups, man, there's probably like so many.
	There's thousands of encounters.
	They're really not.
	I'm not going to say.
	Me personally, and you're right in a sense, but just on the ground, the give-up groups are not that dangerous.
	The guys that are trying to get away.
	Give-up groups.
	Yeah, because they're just giving up at the border.
	They're not running from us.
	These groups, when I first started, people would legitimately run.
	Now they're showing up in groups of like 50 to 100 people.
	They're just like, here we are.
	Take us in because they know what's going to happen.
	Yeah. They're the ones, I guess, who are doing it.
	They're doing the illegal thing legally.
	They're only there to get processed because they'll never appear, or they might.
	But they're not the criminal.
	They have neck pillows.
	They're like, yeah, I'm just chilling until you get a sin.
	That's what bothers me.
	I don't mind risking my...
	I signed up to risk my life.
	Yeah, you're risking your life if you're chasing a car with aliens in it and they're driving crazy.
	But the thing was, when we started this, our chief came and said, we're taking all...
	Because in the Border Patrol, you have different details.
	You have guys on dirt bikes, guys on ATVs.
	You have horse patrol.
	There's different...
	We use different assets.
	And he said, we're taking all assets out of the field and everything's going to processing.
	And that's coming from higher up.
	That was a bad day.
	When they said all of our assets are getting taken to protect the country, to protect the border, you're all going to the line to shuttle people into the country and process them.
	And if I've understood it correctly, the assets are...
	To protect the border, to seal the border.
	And they said, we're taking all of those resources, so now it's open, and we're going to put those resources into processing, meaning it's a free-for-all, open border, or highly porous, if you want to get technical.
	And then all of the resources, administration, financial stuff, goes to processing people who, by and large, are never going to show up for their dates and are going to become, I don't know, illegal immigrants who get exploited or do whatever in society.
	That's what it meant.
	I'll do you even one better.
	We have special teams called Bortech and Bortstar.
	They're like high-speed, badass dudes.
	You have to go through a wicked-hard indoctrination program.
	Across federal law enforcement, they're very highly recognized.
	Bortech, look it up.
	A lot of extreme berets go to Border Patrol just to be on the Bortech team.
	And they wear a different uniform.
	I saw those guys grabbing people and dropping them off at the station.
	So even our most highly trained tactical assets, and they might be, like, it's not like, they probably want to keep that under wraps, dude, because, like, these are some, like, badass, these are pipe hitters, bro.
	I saw those dudes processing people and bringing bodies to my station to drop off.
	Okay. Like, our best of the best, highest trained, thousands have spent on, just one agent, they spent so much money on them just to get them trained to that level.
	They're taking vans of people and dropping them off at the station, dude.
	What year did you start working?
	2020. 2020.
	So this was...
	I'm just trying to think of now when this happens.
	This is...
	Trump is still president?
	Yes. He's still president.
	I mean, it's pre-election.
	Yeah, I wouldn't have...
	If I had known this was going on, I wouldn't have signed up.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay. So then, what was the difference or the difference in experience on the ground between 2020, 2021?
	And I gotta say, do you know that there's a policy change that is now basically...
	Radically changing what role you have on the ground.
	So when I signed up and took the job, people were just getting returned onto whatever pathway, either probably voluntary return, expedited removal, those type of things.
	They were just getting put back.
	But then when COVID hit, they were doing Title 42, which was kind of genius.
	It was a faster way to return people.
	You just Title 42, and there's less paperwork.
	It's like a couple clicks of a mouse.
	You just put them back.
	It's like a different thing.
	But then the court struck that down.
	I was at the academy when the election happened.
	Pretty much when they struck down Title 42 and we had to do a pathway for these people and they started doing all the NTAORs, that's when it changed.
	When was that?
	That was 2020.
	Was that 2022?
	2022, I want to say.
	In our locals community, I'm asking them to make sure I don't miss any important questions that I absolutely want to ask you everything.
	I'm not the expert on this.
	This is a lot of anecdotal stuff.
	I wish there was more BPH.
	Because they come at me.
	They say, like, you're not even getting it right.
	I'm like, well, I'm just going off anecdotal.
	Like, if you want to go on VO for a show and you want to risk your job and your career, you guys can do it.
	As far as I'm concerned, the only people that are worth talking to now are the people with the anecdotal experience who are the ones day in and day out on the ground seeing it.
	Like, I'm not interested in somebody who's far and removed and, oh, well, you know, it's like Don Lemon telling somebody, on paper, the economy's much better, so your experience on the ground is not relevant.
	Bullcrap. But the question is, ask Zach when they were told to dedicate all resources to the processing only.
	That was after election.
	Yeah, definitely after election.
	Probably when Title 42 got shut down.
	But then I'm also thinking, they started doing these camps, man.
	Like, Eagle Pass, where they said that the horse patrol guys whipped the migrants.
	They never whipped them.
	Like, I'm not saying it was bad optics.
	Like, why even?
	Like, because all those people were getting...
	But we didn't know.
	Like, all these ages, no one knew.
	They were trying to repel these people, but they had these camps in Eagle Pass and Yuma, and they're building these big tent facilities, and that was before all that.
	That was in 2021, because I got mandated to go leave my home and go stay in a hotel to go to these camps where people just showed up to the camp, and it was like a flagpole.
	Symbolically, it was like a flagpole.
	Come here, we'll process these big processing centers.
	And they were just processing people in.
	So in Yuma...
	Which is like two and a half hours from my station.
	They had these big camps with thousands of people they're letting in.
	But at my station, we're still chasing people down.
	So a two and a half hour difference could mean you're getting let in or we're returning you at that point.
	So it was weird how it was all working.
	It was confusing.
	It's not even whack-a-mole.
	It's like plugging one hole or at least putting some tape over it, but there's a bigger hole in the ship 20 feet away.
	Yeah, and then it became across pretty much every agent I spoke to, we're just letting NTAOR on them.
	We're just giving them the showing up.
	Wait, let me say this.
	We were at my station, because we didn't really have a city on the other side of the border.
	It was like 40 miles of desert to get to any civilization.
	That's where I patrolled.
	We were catching people in camouflage clothing that had been crossing for two days, and they would run, and our agents would catch them, and then we'd still give them an NTAOR.
	They weren't even giving up.
	We were catching people that were trying to get into the country, detaining and arresting them, and then giving them a court date.
	So it would make no sense that we're in camo.
	And we're still letting them in.
	The Title 40...
	Is it 41 or 42?
	42, I think.
	Title 42 was one that had restrictions because of COVID.
	You didn't want illegal aliens coming in because of COVID, not because of any other law reasons.
	But hey, if that's what we had to use just to repel people, it's better than letting them in and paying for them to come in, right?
	Well, for sure.
	It's like the choice of the two evils.
	If it was up to me, you don't even want to know what I would do to people.
	Honestly, I think it's like an act of war to go into another country.
	If I went into North Korea, dude, what do you think is going to happen if I cross their border?
	Poland, they're using deadly force.
	And it's not just what you would expect them to do.
	It's like, what would you think is reasonable?
	Or what would you think would happen to you if you did it?
	What would you think is reasonable?
	No, I would expect that a nation would use lethal force if I were trying to sneak in under a fence.
	If you were the president, would you do that?
	If you were the dictator of America, would you do that?
	I mean, I would go to the other gradients first, like, you know, just immediate deportation.
	You have a border, you put them on a bus, and you go right back, cross over the border, and implement stricter measures so it stops happening.
	The question is this, because I think we all saw it not from on the ground, but from, you know, however many hundreds of miles north.
	When Kamala Harris says, don't come, or between presidencies, how much of an increase in run-ins on the ground, what are they called, encounters, did you notice in terms of...
	Increase from 2020 over 2021 over 2022.
	Like, was it exponential, remarkable?
	Holy crap, they're coming in in convoys now that there's been, if not a policy change, at least an administration change?
	Yeah, why would you give up at the border if you know you're just going to get returned?
	You're going to try to sneak in.
	So obviously not, you know, instead of having 100 people, 200 people a day at one area just give up, they're not going to do that because we would just repel them back or they would just get returned.
	So the encounters of like...
	The word encounter is kind of tricky because the encounters have exponentially grown by thousands.
	But it's like, what good is an encounter if we're paying for them to come into the country?
	An encounter is meaningless.
	If we're just letting these people into the country, ideally then we won't even encounter them because they have to pay their own way.
	Well, that's the idea.
	If it's going to be an NT, whatever it is, notice to appear later.
	The encounters are where you increase the risk of something violent happening, I presume.
	Just flat out open the border and just have it be declared open.
	Well, then they go to the NGO, and if you watch the movie, so you know, they go to these, because I don't know, they go to that bus depot in San Diego, and then these NGOs who are getting tens of millions from DHS, they're giving them free plane tickets and a cell phone.
	And then they go to these states where they can get all this benefit.
	At this point, obviously we know it's not stupidity.
	It's all part of a plan.
	But it's like, yeah, like I was saying, we're better off not encountering them because we're using, like, why give these people a free ride?
	Someone asked what movie.
	It's the documentary James O'Keefe's Line in the Sand.
	We're going to get to that eventually.
	I just want to get out all my questions first.
	Okay, so now.
	How am I doing, by the way, dude?
	First of all, you're amazing because you're honest and you don't have to think about any lies.
	You're just telling, not your truth, the truth in your life experience.
	The question was this.
	Thank you.
	The difference in asylum seekers versus illegal immigrants.
	This has been where the wordplay has been shifted in my memory over the last, I would say, three years, certainly the Biden administration.
	Initially, did you notice a transition between what was...
	You know, typically referred to as illegal aliens, and then all of a sudden they all became asylum seekers.
	Did you notice that on the ground?
	You said former litigator, so you're like a lawyer, I'm assuming.
	I relinquished my license in Quebec because all that it was serving for were people filing random ethics complaints because they don't like my tweets, and I don't plan on practicing.
	No, you set the groundwork for guys like me to relinquish whatever I have to relinquish to tell the truth, so God bless you, man.
	I didn't know that.
	That's extremely impressive, dude.
	That's honorable, super honorable.
	And the wording of these USC, of our federal code of immigration, like the laws, they used...
	When I say illegal alien, I'm not calling these people aliens.
	That's the actual wording that was in the law books.
	I don't know if they've changed that, but when I came into the Border Patrol, illegal alien was a legal term.
	It still is.
	I mean, they say there's a fact check that says, oh, it's only limited to certain aspects of the law.
	But one thing is clear that they, in order to circumvent what would otherwise be illegal crossing of the border, they say, oh, none of them are illegal anymore.
	That's the whole thing.
	No human is illegal because they're all claiming asylum.
	But I don't know.
	You have to claim asylum.
	It's like when Holman told AOC, which I'm not on a vengeance against these people.
	I can't sit here and cite all these different things, but I just remember she was like, are you calling them illegal?
	He's like, man, by definition, legality-wise, you have to declare yourself at a port of entry to be an asylum seeker.
	When you go in between the port of entry, that's now illegal.
	That's the definition of being illegal, trying to enter the country in between ports of entry.
	The port of entry is where I go into Canada, you come into America, not 10 miles down the road to sneak in.
	Well, not in a, what is it, a blowtorched out section of the wall that you remove so that you can cross illegally.
	The question is this, I mean, on the ground, does claiming asylum...
	Have any different procedures than being just an outright illegal border coaster?
	It was supposed to.
	It was supposed to, but like I'm saying, these people are like 20 miles inland wearing camo.
	Like, they're camoed out.
	You've seen some of my pictures.
	They're camoed with hoods on and blacked out.
	Their water jugs are blacked out, so it doesn't even have a reflection.
	They're trying to do everything they can to sneak.
	We'd still catch them, and then they'd claim asylum.
	And then they had this thing.
	There's like so much to it.
	There's so many tricks.
	And I can't grasp it all.
	That's why I need a guy like you.
	We need to put the best thing, because they don't need the gorilla like me on the ground.
	I just tackle people.
	They need the smartest people to figure out all these tricks, because there's so many little tricks they use to make it seem like they're doing something.
	But on the other hand, it's all smoke and mirrors.
	It's all smoke and mirrors.
	I do want to get into the actual criminal aspect of this and the human trafficking in a second, but have you had any...
	Direct experience with, I get the acronym mixed up, but the Hebrew Asylum Immigration Society or something?
	HAIS, which is one of the many organizations which apparently is responsible for facilitating the crossing and advising them on what to say.
	Have you seen any of these papers that they're allegedly being given up to say, this is what you say when you get pulled over, etc., etc.?
	So, like, any other thing with people, like, you're saying it's a conspiracy?
	There's so many people.
	Like, we're so compartmentalized, man.
	Like, they dumb it down for us.
	Catch the person, drive them here, do this paperwork, and then afterwards they get on a bus.
	I don't know what the hell is going on, dude.
	Like, that's why I have to watch a movie to figure it out.
	Like, they compartmentalize the job to just sitting on the border, letting people give up, you getting them, giving to a processing...
	To the center.
	Somebody else is on a computer that does the processing.
	And you never see them again.
	That's it.
	Whatever happens to them.
	Yeah. You're very compartmentalized.
	Like, dumbed down, easy job.
	A to B, B to C. So as far as, like, these other NGOs, I don't really have contact with them because it's like, I'm just, on the southern border, I was just grabbing you.
	On the northern border, we have a little bit more to do because there's so many less agents.
	Like, I've actually checked people into hotel rooms here, dude.
	Like, literally, yeah, it's like sick.
	The way you describe compartmentalizing, I'm now realizing that it's sort of like an iteration of divide and conquer so that people can't unify and fight together, but compartmentalize so that nobody really understands how the whole thing is working so that nobody can unify to fight the broken system coming from the top down.
	And I love all the BP guys, but they're like, we just arrest them.
	Our job's always been just to arrest.
	Whatever happens after that, we have no control.
	We don't know what happens.
	Well, there's a difference between, like, arresting people, and you know they get returned, or arresting people, and you know they're, like, killing people in, like, the interior of the United States.
	Like, it doesn't take a genius to watch the news and see, like, United States is getting raped, murdered, and killed by people that we've processed and let into the country.
	Oh, no, Zach, I've been, what is it, reliably told that citizens commit more crimes than illegals, and it's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.
	But now, the illegal nature of what goes on.
	I mean, even if this were only...
	And limited to exclusively people looking for a better life and they found the loophole, claim asylum instead of being illegal.
	That's one thing.
	What has been your experience in coming across human trafficking in the realist of senses, drug trafficking and arms trafficking?
	Have you come across that?
	Even though we're shorthanded, we have not as much resources as we should probably, like Border Patrol.
	If they actually let these guys...
	If they let the agency go catch people and return them, we would do a phenomenal job.
	But when you're using all your resources to get people into the country and you're taking away the horse patrol, you're taking the drone program.
	There's so many programs.
	You can do 30 different jobs within the same station, man.
	Like, all these different resources.
	Like, they have, like, Taoist surveillance.
	And when all that's being pretty much used to get as many people into the country as possible, even though they're not saying that, that's what's occurring or what it looked like to you, to anyone with a friggin' brain, then imagine what's actually happened when the people aren't...
	You're using all your resources to get people in the country.
	What happens that you can't help out with?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, if we're using 100% of our resources for these give-up groups...
	What about the actual real heavy hitters?
	Because these cartels, they have money.
	I don't want to talk, but the people that come in that are traveling, they have money.
	They're not stupid either.
	You can't even put a percentage on what's really getting through that we're not stopping.
	Have you witnessed children, women who have been the victims of sexual assault on these journeys?
	They don't typically admit it, but yeah, it's sad.
	I've told this story a couple times, like, just real quick, this, like, they, yeah, they catch, like, girls with these men, and then the girl will say she's been raped, and then, like, another agency came in and spoke to this girl and say she hasn't been raped, and we send that girl with the people that she claimed to have raped her into the country.
	Like, think about how sick that is.
	Like, a very close, like, supervisor, somebody that's above me.
	They're not even really supposed to, he's like, he called me after he's like, listen, dude, like, there was a situation where this girl, when I was, when I was just, like, a line agent like you before I moved up, he's like, She told me in Spanish, and I had somebody else that fluently speaks Spanish better than me, like a native speaker, like this girl saying, this guy raped me.
	He's taking me to Washington to sell me.
	Like, please help me.
	And then HSI, the head of the station, like their special agent in charge, came in, took the girl with a couple other agents in a room, spoke to her for like up to two hours, he said.
	And she came back and retold the story of, no, nothing's wrong.
	So whatever they said to her must have made her change her story.
	And then we sent that girl with the people she was claiming raping her and going to sell her up to Washington for free.
	And he reported it, went through our internal investigation, our internal affairs, and they said, well, there was a confidential informant inside that vehicle, so we didn't want to blow his cover, so we had to keep it the same.
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	Immediately you have to remove that girl.
	And that's like a BS story.
	And even if it does blow his cover, who gives a crap?
	Did this happen to you?
	It happened to one of my supervisors.
	He called me and told me the story.
	He wanted me to get this out.
	What's HSI?
	Homeland Security Investigations.
	They're like a big agency, man.
	These are the guys that are supposedly protecting America, man.
	Has this individual come forward with it?
	I presume there might be a paper trail of this or at least messages.
	Has he come forward with that?
	He hasn't come out publicly.
	He doesn't want to come out publicly.
	He just wants me to tell the story.
	I know who the guy...
	I can't give you...
	I don't want to out anybody who doesn't want to out themselves yet.
	I've got to keep him confidential so other guys can tell me their stories.
	You know what I mean?
	They have to cut my eyelids out and cut off my tongue and I still wouldn't tell them what agent told me the story.
	No, no, for sure.
	That was not where I was going with this because that's not my...
	But this is one of the many stories that, first of all, we've all heard horror stories, but we've heard the stories of human trafficking.
	Children, you know, they get their rape kits along the way.
	And so this is a specific example of a girl who said, these people are raping me and taking me to sell me in D.C. And the excuse given for why they were reunited is that there was a confidential human source involved in the project?
	Washington State.
	So she was saying Washington State.
	Then... I don't think you understand how rare it is for the top head of an HSI station to come to a Border Patrol station.
	He showed up with a couple other agents.
	That's so rare.
	I've never seen the head of a Homeland Security investigation station show up at a Border Patrol station.
	I've never seen it.
	It's rare.
	And then they took her into a room for two hours.
	She changed her story.
	And then they kept that group together and sent them as a group to Washington through NGOs or wherever.
	And they didn't remove that girl out of that group at all.
	They didn't take...
	They didn't do anything to the men that she claimed raped her.
	Nothing. They weren't charged.
	They were rewarded, and they kept it going.
	And when he reported it, it was a big thing.
	This guy's like, what do you think that did to him?
	You know what I mean?
	He had to watch that occur.
	And then he reported it further, and they did an internal investigation, and their excuse to him was somebody in that car is a snitch for us, essentially, confidential informant.
	He's snitching, giving us info.
	We don't want to out him.
	So we kept that group together.
	That doesn't even make sense because you could just say, well, the girl told me, so I don't know who's...
	That wouldn't blow that guy's cover.
	And even if it did blow his cover, wouldn't you still remove a girl from being actively raped?
	Well, it goes back to...
	And it was an underage girl.
	And it was an underage girl.
	And why is the top of HSI showing up?
	And I'm not inferring anything, but that's like the most egregious story I've heard.
	Like, that's like really scary stuff.
	And do these individuals or others who have similar and potentially more egregious experiences, are they tempted to come forward?
	What happens if and when they do?
	What's happened to you for coming forward and saying what you said, which is by and large stuff that we all already know, but when you have someone who's frontline, you can't really deny their experience.
	What has happened to you?
	Because I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter in terms of sanctions and reprimands and threats to remove security clearance.
	I mean, just everything, dude.
	What can't they do to me?
	Would you be surprised if they did anything to me?
	I'm asking you because you're much smarter, but you're more intelligent than me.
	What would you be surprised if?
	Just go through the list of options that could happen to me, and would any of it surprise you?
	Are you still working as a Border Patrol agent?
	They've removed my gun.
	I have a meeting with a special agent to investigate me.
	For now, I mean...
	The writing is on the wall is basically an understatement.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't...
	Like I said, would anything surprise you?
	So basically, the first thing that happened was I got a memorandum, which I got to explain yourself.
	They said, where did you get a...
	They asked a bunch of questions about the movie.
	I answered them.
	I'm not hiding the ball.
	I'm not going to lie.
	If I do something, I'm not going to throw a curveball.
	I'm throwing a fastball down the middle of the plate.
	So were you in the movie?
	Yes. This, this, and the third.
	Told them all the truth, because I'm not going to lie.
	And I just, they said, did you get supervisory approval?
	I said, brother, my approval comes from the Constitution of the United States.
	That's the approval I use, okay?
	Then they took my gun, said it wasn't disciplinary, and another thing.
	And then yesterday they gave me a piece of paper that said I have a meeting with an investigator to investigate.
	I'm the subject of an investigation for general misconduct and disruptive behavior.
	What am I disrupting?
	The flow of aliens coming to the country and getting free shit stuff?
	And it's not even just that.
	It's not to say I was expecting more from a whistleblower.
	It's that you're basically seeing what everybody already knows, but from your first-hand experience of this processing, and then you...
	Find out that people that you've processed and tagged and whatever are going inland and committing crimes and some of the most horrific crimes imaginable.
	And then you get these jackass elitists in the ivory tower saying, well, don't worry about it.
	It's only a handful of apartment buildings.
	You go live in the apartment building.
	Citizens commit more crimes than illegals because illegals, they want to fly under the radar.
	Traitors, traitors, treasonous.
	They're just doing what they have to say to...
	Be on that news station and make that...
	What does that lady make a year?
	$350,000?
	$400,000?
	Oh, dude.
	I'll go look it up after.
	She makes more.
	Do you know how much Rachel Maddow makes?
	She's making $20 million a year.
	Oh, God bless her.
	You know what I mean?
	If you want...
	But I'd rather have my...
	Listen, I didn't grow up with a whole lot.
	Like I said, my father's 70 years old in a Boston taxi cab.
	You know, whatever.
	I mean, like, you can't give me...
	You can't put a price tag on my allegiance to this country.
	But as far as other agents being tempted to step forward, they're just like...
	Because, like, oh, this is what I want to say.
	Like, I don't have the nuclear codes.
	Like, I don't know what people are expecting me to divulge.
	It's already not out there.
	But it also helps my cause.
	It's like, I'm not giving away operational security stuff.
	I'm not, like, giving away stuff that the public doesn't know.
	I'm just confirming.
	And I'm the symbol.
	My goal is to be the symbol of somebody that it's like, if I was not in this job, I'd be like, when is somebody going to step up and say this is wrong?
	I'm the symbol of saying this is wrong.
	But I don't have information that people don't already know.
	I'm confirming what you see.
	The reality is, you're confirming what people are denying.
	And you're just getting out and saying, yeah, the Emperor has no clothes.
	And like, no, no, he's fully clothed.
	No, I'm working the front line.
	And this is what's just mind-blowing about it.
	Everybody understands the catch-and-release program.
	Nobody fully appreciates what it is.
	And people are asking me what my endgame is.
	I don't even have one.
	I'm just like, what you're doing, I'm surprised there's not 50...
	I would have thought after three and a half years, there'd be a million guys like me.
	I can't even believe I'm in this position because it's like...
	I thought I was late to the party.
	I guess I'm the first one to come, and there's one guy after me, Aaron Becky, who's with James, but how am I the only first one?
	That's disturbing in and of itself.
	I felt guilty for not doing this years ago, but I had to wrap my head around it.
	The courage is contagious, and as people see...
	First of all, I think the appetite is out there, and the sentiment is changing.
	And it's like, you can only deny the effects of Chernobyl for so long before the people start saying, you're lying to us day in and day out.
	And people have my back, too.
	I couldn't believe the amount of support I'm getting.
	I'm like, it's incredible, man.
	I went into this, everyone that's an agent, they're like, oh, dude, things might not change.
	You're going to be destroyed.
	No one's going to care.
	This and that.
	So I went into this being like, I'm going to lose my job.
	God knows what's going to happen to me.
	And it's going to get no media attention at all.
	And now it's, like, a million times more than what I even expected.
	Because I expected to do this for no reason other than just to...
	My reasoning behind this beyond God was, like, I want to put...
	Even if it's a small little asterisk, I want people to look back on this, like, historic surge and say, like, not one guy put his name on the right side of it.
	And even if it was in the tiniest little right and, like, Zakopoulka said this was wrong.
	That's all I wanted from this.
	And just mocking that down.
	But people support...
	Like, from what I can see, dude, they're like...
	They're like, rock on, brother.
	Keep at it, you know?
	Like, some serious dude.
	So, like, you're doing the right thing.
	Her name is Raditz.
	The more, what's her?
	I don't know what her first name is.
	The more Raditz's that come out and say, it's only a few apartment complexes, the more people are going to say, this is patently absurd and we need to know what's going on here.
	And if there's a new administration that'll conduct some meaningful investigations.
	When was the last...
	Habibu walked that apartment complex at 10 o'clock at night.
	Just go down there and walk at 10 o'clock at night on a Friday night.
	If it's not a big deal, why don't you go down there and walk?
	Now, if they can me and I'm able-bodied and stuff, I have this idea, and I'm just like a whack job.
	I want to go down there and arrest the people as a citizen, dude.
	Let's go down there.
	If they got guns, I'll go down there.
	I'll put a GoPro on at this point.
	Like they shouldn't be like, it bothers me that you're in an apartment complex in my country and our country, not mine, our country, the country we love illegally and committing these crimes.
	And you think you own that apartment complex?
	I'll like, we should all have ownership of this.
	Like if you are like a legal citizen, you should have ownership and be like, I will die for that apartment complex.
	Because if it starts, if it's okay there, when's it going to be okay?
	Everywhere else.
	Doesn't take a genius.
	No, you see Europe.
	Europe looks even because it's smaller.
	I mean, you would know this better than me.
	In Ireland and England, have you seen like stuff that's like.
	I've seen the videos.
	I mean, it's like, it's...
	It's a big problem.
	I mean, to say the least, and it's politically incorrect to say it, but they screwed up Europe with the immigration policies in 2015.
	And they said, look, we've got to take in all of these Syrian refugees.
	There it wasn't asylum.
	Well, it was asylum seekers.
	You've got to take them in because of the consequences of the wars that were waging in the Middle East.
	And so now you let in too many people who can ever hope to integrate, even if it was their desire to integrate in the first place.
	And then you had Angela Merkel.
	Offering money to send people back.
	They're idiots and they never suffer the consequences of their own idiotic policy.
	But you think it's all by design, I'm assuming.
	I genuinely believe it's importing votes because you create such a massive problem that you end up saying what they're saying now.
	How do we deport so many people?
	How did you let them in in the first place?
	What's the endgame?
	The endgame is to naturalize all of them and then you buy the votes that you can't earn through policy.
	And what do they want to do from there?
	Now they have all the votes, now they have all the power, what do they do from there?
	Rule over the ashes.
	I mean, they'll be so rich and wealthy that they don't have to worry about the consequences of their policy.
	That's basically their long-term plan.
	And they get to control people.
	What is more...
	What is more, what's what I'm looking for, like, that derives some form of, like, power pleasure than by controlling other human beings?
	And my thing with the, and that's true, and my thing with the Border Patrol agents, it's like, so we're doing this, like, that, that's like the, I, like, the James name, the movie, Lion's Sand, like, when we shot the thing, I took a freaking stick, I was like, it was Lion's Sand, like, but...
	Which is kind of corny, but it's true, it's like.
	But, like, what happens if they start saying, like, no, like, misinformation?
	So now, like, disinformation, misinformation, they're going to start making us arrest, like, not border patrol, but they're going to make cops arrest people for that because they're doing that in England.
	Like, they arrest that guy Enoch Burke because he wasn't using the right pronouns.
	And then also, like, what happens when they start, like, saying, like, assault rifles or this and that?
	So they're just going to go and they're going to have us taking rifles away from people and just going to say, that's okay?
	Where do law enforcement?
	And I don't know the answer.
	My answer was like, now, when does the rest of law enforcement say, like, this is against what I signed up to do?
	It's against the Constitution that they pledge an allegiance to uphold, period.
	But the bottom line, it's only going to be a matter of time before they'll try to criminalize as misinformation, calling them illegal immigrants in the first place.
	And you've seen it happen in Springfield, where they're saying, oh, no, no, those aren't illegal Haitians because they were given temporary protective status.
	TPS. TPS.
	And so, like, oh, they're not illegal.
	You can't call them illegal anymore.
	It's racist and violent-inducing to call them illegals because we've, you know, with the stroke of a wand, granted them TPS.
	Stroke of that same wand, legalize 15 million illegals that you've let in.
	Yeah, naturalize them.
	That's not what I'm for.
	That's not what I'm doing.
	I don't know any rational person who would risk their life protecting a border if that would be a legal policy.
	Well, yeah, if you give these guys $1.30 a year and they're not really working that hard and they have a job the rest of their life and you get sick leave, annual leave, all these different leave programs.
	Out of all these guys, me and the other guy came forward.
	I'm never going to disparage the Border Patrol guys.
	I mean, you know, you make your own conclusions.
	I have my own opinions.
	I'm not going to give them.
	But, like, that's why people don't come forward.
	They're making a fat, like, check off it.
	You know, like, it's comfy.
	It's not like a, like, what else are they going to do to make that money?
	It's buying loyalty through government jobs.
	And once the government controls it, they basically hand tied everybody to opposing the government on whom they are relying for salary benefits and everything else.
	It's how I believe the federal government in Canada has basically gained control over the entire country by having so many people reliant on the government for employment and benefits.
	You can't defy them.
	You can't speak out against COVID protocol because you'll lose your federal job.
	And so lo and behold, you've got.
	And what other economy job is there out there to do?
	It's very hard.
	You're not going to live that same standard of living.
	I'm curious now, when was the last day that you worked the southern border?
	September 23. September 2023.
	September of 2023.
	Then you went where?
	You went to the northern border?
	Yeah, just because I was, like, I actually love the guys at my station.
	It was, like, an awesome station.
	Like, I got along with my chief, dude.
	Great dude.
	I mean, probably doesn't want me saying that because I'm, like, the pariah.
	But, like, everyone.
	And, like, some guys will now say, like, oh, he was a POS.
	Like, you know, guys get, like, mad because I speak out.
	But for the most part, dude, there's, like.
	A hundred guys I love there, but I'm from Mass.
	The closest I could get to Mass was Vermont.
	The opportunity arose.
	Maybe it was because I was speaking out there, and I didn't want to see.
	I knew that the encounters were less up in the northern border.
	I'm like, I can't continue to watch this, dude.
	We literally had coach buses waiting at our station, and we would load their luggage onto the coach bus, and they would get driven in their face, and they'd jump up and down and laugh and hug us.
	I'm like, dude, get off.
	I couldn't continue to watch that.
	So I went to the northern border just to get away from that amount of people.
	Then when I went to the northern border, it was still pretty much the same.
	Less people, but also less agents.
	So it was like a...
	Well, also, nobody's really, nobody's, as far as I understand, nobody's trying to get in from Canada.
	Although Vivek brought it up in...
	Oh, no, they are.
	No, no, no, they are.
	Because what happens is these people, it's like tourism, like migration.
	So they go to Canada, they get their benefits, and they'll sneak into America to apply for benefits.
	So they'll be getting, they'll be double dipping.
	Or they'll go to Argentina, to Canada, to America.
	Or when their benefits run out, they'll come here and get benefits.
	My sector, and this is open source information, 19,000 apprehensions.
	At the northern border, at the Vermont-Quebec border?
	Like Swanton sector, which is Vermont, parts of New York, eastern New York.
	But most of them, not all, a lot of them are give-ups.
	Because there's a lot of fields.
	Your wife's from the eastern townships.
	There's fields.
	Half the fields in Canada, half in America.
	There's no wall.
	So you can drive.
	They're driving in.
	We're arresting them.
	And no crimes are happening.
	We're still giving them a court date, even though they're taking us on a chase and not being prosecuted.
	It's just a free-for-all, man.
	There's one island.
	I forget where it is.
	I want to say Lake Man for Magog, but it's an island.
	Half of the island's in America.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They shave the trees down the middle.
	What's that town on the other side of Mount for Magog?
	It's like Magog, awesome town, like beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	It's magnificent.
	And there's a place where you can actually, you can just canoe in because half of Lake Champlain is in America.
	The other half is Missisquoi Bay in Quebec.
	I was also under the impression that the majority were crossing over into Canada because Eric Adams was shipping them from New York, getting them bus tickets and saying, go be Canada's problem because we're maxed out.
	We do have northbounders.
	Yeah, there's people that just run into Canada.
	Like, it's a free-for-all, dude.
	It's like, get money on this side, get money on that side.
	I mean, typically there's more guns in this country, so they're going to be taking guns.
	I mean, typically going northbound because it's easy to procure a gun here.
	So if you can get a gun, like in Arizona, wherever, like if you get a light, if you're...
	Even if you're illegal, you have somebody that says, like, you get your guns here and you go into Canada, you know?
	Because, you know, you guys have to check the gun laws.
	And the majority of gun crime in Canada is committed with black market illegally procured guns.
	The question was this.
	So how do you decide to contact James?
	And how does it come about?
	And when did it come about?
	If I can ask you those questions.
	I'm not ashamed of any of my actions.
	He was doing, like, work in Phoenix.
	And like I said, I just reached out to him and said, like, you're good, but you're not even close.
	And that was, like, in January?
	January, like, this year, 2024.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm like, because he was already doing border work, but I'm like, you don't have, like, you're not, you're, like, close, but, like, you're not, like, you, it's like driving from, like, Boston to Miami.
	Like, you can get there without a road map, I guess, but you might take a little bit longer, so I just want to, like, kind of steer you of what you should look out for.
	Like, I want to give you a map.
	And then let you take it from there.
	And that's basically what I said to him.
	I'm like, you're good, but you're not...
	You've got to zero in on this, and then from there you go.
	And that's kind of what happened.
	And for those who...
	I don't want to spoil the entire documentary, but James does the journey himself.
	It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen where he gets on the train in Mexico, jumps on a moving train that's carrying coal, and does the journey with all of these people.
	On a scale of 1 to 10, how absolutely insane was that?
	I thought it was, like, classical.
	Because there's, like, another story.
	Because, like, if you know that he was, like, fired from his own company.
	I didn't know all this.
	Like, I just, like, followed Project Vera.
	I didn't know none of this.
	But, like, he gets fired.
	And then, like, he meets this, like, weird.
	Like, there's, like, a story within the story.
	And I'm not trying to place myself.
	But he meets this, like, weird, eccentric border guy from Boston that, like, tells him something.
	And he, like, goes on this journey.
	And then, like, Tucker buys it.
	And, like, I reached out to Tucker Carlson Network.
	I'm like, when I did this, I had no idea you guys were going to buy the movie.
	I just wanted the truth out there.
	So it's like this weird thing.
	But I'll ask you, like, I thought it was classic O'Keefe, some of the best work he's ever done.
	I mean, especially coming off of getting fired.
	Like, isn't it like a...
	I'm biased, right?
	Like, it's a movie I'm in.
	For you, isn't it like a hot racing documentary from the beginning?
	First of all, for me, I'm a neurotic person with a fear of death.
	It's insane what he did.
	It's so insane that some people might say this is all staged.
	Gonzalez, I forget her first name now.
	Savannah Gonzalez?
	There's a journalist.
	She's big on Twitter.
	She goes to the board like, it's insane.
	It's reckless.
	I dare say, not stupid because He put a listening device on the friggin' fence and it picks up the...
	Like, you can't write that.
	Savannah Hernandez.
	It was Savannah Hernandez.
	Yeah, she's great.
	She's crazy.
	But these things are...
	They're wildly dangerous.
	I mean, maybe they're not as wildly dangerous as I think they are.
	Like, when O'Keefe in the movie is like, the cartel is looking at us and telling us to move, you're getting in the way of our business, they'll kill you.
	And they won't even blink while doing it.
	I think it's crazy.
	But... For an agent, agents are like, eh, it's like everyday ordinary stuff.
	I'm like, yeah, because you guys are like, you're used to it.
	But for like the everyday public, they don't see it, dude.
	Like they don't know.
	Like it's what he did.
	Like he's a madman.
	And like my buddy, that military guy, I mean the patrol, he gave me this like necklace with a quote from Isaiah.
	And like the first time I met James, I just said, hey, dude, like I don't want nothing from you.
	Like whatever this is, I don't really know.
	I don't really, I didn't trust him at that time.
	If you're going to do anything, wear this necklace.
	And if you see that necklace in the film, that's what my buddy Mark gave him, who's a sick military dude.
	I'm not going to say much more about him, but he gave me that, bro.
	Because he's like, I love you.
	I believe in what you're doing.
	And then I gave that to James, and he wore that.
	He still wears it until today.
	If I'm James, I'm never taking that off.
	He said he had it on the whole time.
	I'm like, bro, just wear that necklace, dude, and pray.
	If I can ask, you have to have a one event that is the most insane personal experience you've had during your time as a border patrol on the southern border?
	Yeah, and like any agent, it's crazy.
	It's a crazy job.
	One or two days, dude, we had a clone vehicle.
	One of our apartments is a U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
	It's a federal game warden, I guess.
	I really don't know what they are.
	It was a clone vehicle.
	We chased it.
	There were seven people in it, hundreds of pounds of drugs.
	I don't even know what type of drugs.
	The car flipped over.
	Literally, my first or second day on the job, it was upside down.
	We're the first on scene.
	The guy opens the door, and it's just me in front of these people.
	I don't know if they had guns.
	I didn't even take my gun out.
	Now I'd approach it cautiously and go through the motions.
	I just showed up.
	I'm like, here I am.
	They could have shot and killed me.
	I like rip them out of the car.
	The car started smoking.
	I took my baton out, whacked the windshield, got in through the windshield, ripped the keys out, threw them.
	The guys were like, the driver ran this way.
	They had uniforms on as like fish and wildlife wardens.
	It was like my second day of work, my first day on the field.
	I'm like, this place is awesome, dude.
	Like, let's go.
	That was probably the most wild and it happened right on my first week of work, two, three.
	I don't even know.
	Now, hypothetically there, you're dealing with actual drug traffickers.
	It's not a handcuff, take them back to the border, just slip them over the...
	Say, here you go, Mexico.
	You don't even do that with them?
	Like, what do they do?
	Do they go to jail in America?
	No, I think they prosecute them.
	I'm like, you know, it's compartmentalizing.
	I don't know.
	I'm not in the...
	We have a prosecutions unit.
	Like, you just go back out to the field the next day.
	You're not, like, checking up on it.
	Prosecuting them is like using taxpayer dollars, taxpayer resources, American jails.
	It would be very simple.
	Catch and release.
	Catch everybody who comes across illegally.
	Put them in a bus.
	Take them back over the border of Mexico.
	And let them reprocess from that border crossing either asylum, legit, or other means.
	But bring them back in so that it's not America that has to deal with even prosecuting and incarcerating illegal drug trafficking border crossers.
	Yeah, I mean, sometimes I feel like we should maybe, like, at the very least, like, throw them in our jails.
	Like, if it's, like, that egregious, just, like, give them some punch.
	Because if they go to Mexico, are they really going to even get in trouble?
	I don't know.
	But, like, yeah, no, what you're saying is, like, why waste our time and money on...
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't have the solution, but I know what we're doing right now is heinous.
	What's been going on has been heinous.
	And so you're still working up at the northern border for now?
	For now, yeah.
	I mean, I'm the weaponless Border Patrol agent, dude.
	You know what I mean?
	As my friend's father called me, he's like, you're the weaponless agent.
	You know what I mean?
	You can't even defend yourself against a moose.
	Yeah, no, I'm just in the ad.
	I'm just, yeah, I mean, they try to humiliate you.
	Delegitimize, whatever that word is.
	Delegitimize, yeah.
	Delegitimize me, embarrass me, say I'm this, ad hominem, attack me.
	But they haven't called me a liar.
	They have not called me a liar, dude.
	Let me, if I may, I'm going to get to some questions in our locals community that they have.
	Please, please, man.
	And get them in there, people.
	Get them in.
	You don't have to do tip chats.
	I'm going to get to all the questions because I think I've got everything.
	We might touch on a few more things.
	Question for Zach.
	Is it common practice to refuse entry and return Mexican nationals?
	No, I think we've answered that.
	It was more common.
	It was more common than other nationalities.
	But there was a certain point in time that they were getting in.
	But here's the thing.
	Even when they get an expedited removal.
	That's like a pathway.
	Like, you're expeditedly removing these people.
	They can claim credible fear.
	We turn them over to ICE, so ICE will hold them in a jail.
	But they still get to go in front of a judge and argue that they have fear.
	And that judge may release them on their credible fear of return to their country.
	So I don't even know if we're really returning them.
	Like, shouldn't there be, like, a worksheet for the American people to see, like, we caught this many people.
	This many people have been released into the country.
	This many people have been returned.
	Where is that public information?
	Like, I don't know that stuff.
	Even when we hold them for ICE, even when we hold them at a jail for ICE, we don't even know if ICE is them releasing them.
	We just know that they've been held up until they got to see a judge.
	Basically, we're holding you until your court date.
	And I don't even know if it's even a judge.
	I think it's an immigration official with certain powers that they can claim credible fear.
	I'll see if it gets into one of the questions.
	Do you have any knowledge of whether or not there is some sort of broader institutionalized or...
	Monetized human trafficking scheme that might account for why the administration is facilitating this?
	Well, I mean, these NGOs are making so much money.
	I mean, who owns these NGOs?
	I don't know.
	You're the litigator.
	They're getting in the movie, James, showing their schedule J, whatever, 50 million a year, up to some crazy amount of money.
	We're feeding these people.
	Where are we buying that food from?
	There's money.
	Beyond money.
	Like, money you can't even imagine being made off this.
	And who's receiving those, like, funds?
	We haven't gone to that.
	We haven't said, like, this guy owns this NGO.
	Like, we don't know.
	One of the things that I, when I discovered, I think it was after Michael Yan, but where I discovered that, I don't know if he's still on the board, but Mayorkas, the guy who's in charge of the border, was once a board member of the Hebrew...
	I always remember.
	Hebrew Immigration Asylum Society, whatever.
	No, there's definitely an institution there, but there are people who...
	I don't want to say wrongly.
	I don't even think unreasonably believe that this is part of an international human trafficking scheme so that elites can have access to whatever they want, and it's all illegal and nobody knows, and they can't do anything about it, which is when you describe the other story, and God willing, he'll come forward one day with paperwork that shows it.
	when they say, yeah, sorry, we let a girl who accused her traffickers of raping her.
	And we let them go.
	Unaccompanied minor.
	A girl that's not, doesn't have her parents.
	She's under like 15.
	She was 15 or 16 with men that weren't.
	I believe it's institutionalized, personally, but that's a belief and not something that can be evidenced, but nothing else makes much more sense.
	Encryptus in our local community says the agenda is a one world citizen.
	UNWEF want everyone everywhere to be a global citizen.
	The only way to do that is to destroy the idea of nationalism.
	NGOs are involved and are all funded by one world government people.
	I tend to agree with that.
	U.S. Constitution stands in the way of a one world government so you know exactly who is part of the cabal when they say the Constitution is in the way.
	Those who defend...
	The Constitution are enemies of the one world government state.
	That's also from Encryptus.
	It's David versus Goliath, bro.
	I'm defending the Constitution versus all these people.
	And I have the support, like you, to put me on your show.
	I can never repay that, right?
	No, no, forget that.
	But it's like a David versus Goliath thing.
	I'm like, I just know there's a Constitution.
	I'm not a lawyer, but I'm looking for that.
	This is an existential battle.
	I say this from a self-interested perspective.
	If America falls, there's nowhere else in the world where there's going to be people fighting for freedom.
	And then you're going to be like, well, it's not so bad in Russia, so maybe we'll go there and flee there.
	I might seem to plant it, bro.
	You're going to kill me on my land, bro.
	I've had too many veterans in my family.
	I've seen two of my friends go to Global War and Tarot.
	I'm staying plant and I'll never migrate.
	You can do whatever you want to.
	I'm never leaving.
	That's just my opinion.
	That's just who I am.
	I'm a stubborn mule myself, dude.
	I'm an American citizen before anything else.
	I love this land.
	And whatever these wars were and whatever the reasoning was behind it, I didn't go.
	But I know a lot of people that did go.
	And I know how messed up they got.
	And I could never leave just based on the fact that they died over there.
	And I'm just never going to leave this land, dude.
	I love my country.
	And I know you immigrated.
	Not judging me, but me just being an American man, bro.
	If I'm nothing else, I'm a citizen.
	I'm a Christian.
	And then after that, I'm an American.
	And I'm never given that.
	No matter what you do to me.
	Like, I think that's what messes with a lot of them.
	Or people that don't see that, they're like, what do you mean?
	Like, they can't wrap their head around that.
	Like, I'm not recusing my citizenship for any amount of money.
	I'm like, you'll never have me say I'm not a Christian.
	And after that, you'll never have me say I'm not an American.
	If I'm nothing else, those are the two things.
	Like... Hold on one second.
	I just heard a dinging in my...
	Encryptus also says, FYI, I've got first-hand knowledge of this one-world government cabal.
	I was invited to Davos with my company when we were creating a CBDC, Central Digital Banking, in an African country that failed, but we built it.
	And Encryptus says another one.
	Our CBDC project was ended with an assassination of a cabinet member of that country, likely by the previous still-powerful leader of that country.
	There was an actual fighting war going on over this one-world government.
	Roosteng says, what did Zachary learn that he wasn't aware of before the line in the sand?
	So it's compartmentalized.
	All these other companies, like Southwest Key, where they're keeping these unaccompanied miners and trailers, bro, and these big properties.
	These Southwest Key locations are literally module trailers where they're keeping little unaccompanied miners at.
	And then they're giving them to sponsors.
	And I didn't know their sponsors weren't even being background checked.
	And then they get flagged in the system for...
	How can one sponsor be responsible for all these kids?
	The Southwest keypot was insane to me.
	I didn't know about these big federal...
	And it's secret.
	They're not supposed to tell you that we have 8,000 unaccompanied children in trailers here.
	It's impossible.
	Did you know any of that?
	I knew of these encampments.
	Look, as of a year ago, I don't think I was aware of the Darien Gap.
	This is like your job, though.
	You sit on the computer and talk to people.
	I'm working 50 hours a week, so at what point do I'm learning all this stuff?
	I can't, right?
	When I first discovered that there's a lot of...
	There's a lot of non-South Americans crossing the border.
	Did you ever ask your superiors, how are Chinese nationals, how are African nationals getting to South America to cross the border in the first place?
	My superiors are just first-line supervisors.
	They're just like...
	They just, like, what can they say?
	Like, what could, they don't have any clue.
	I don't even think the, you know, like, I don't even think the head of the Border Patrol has any clue.
	And, like, you know, like, I heard, like, Grapevine, like, you wish I didn't speak about this, but, like, they're getting me in trouble, right?
	Like, this guy was partying, like, Vivo.
	This guy, the chief, Jason Owens, look this up.
	It's called Tequila Gate.
	He was partying with the Don Julio grandson magnate in Mexico with Gloria Chavez, who's a head secretary.
	They were partying in Mexico back in 2023.
	Like, unreported or something.
	Like, it's all in the news.
	It went away quickly.
	And then they said, oh, we're trying to make a brand of tequila for 100th year of anniversary.
	But I'm under investigation.
	But I'm under investigation for telling the truth.
	But you're down in Mexico partying.
	And then also there was, like, a logistics, a guy that, like, moved.
	Like, he's, like, he, like, moved stuff.
	Like, his business, like, moved things internationally.
	And they're partying with these people in Mexico.
	Is that not insane?
	Look up Tequila Gate, dude.
	I'll have to do it after because the first thing that came up with Tequila Gate is dividing fans of the Real Housewives.
	Just put Tequila Gate Border Patrol.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Let's see this.
	I'm going to maybe do a little shorter.
	It's super fascinating, bro.
	NBC, this is top two Border Patrol officials who partied.
	Holy crap, Apple.
	But I'm under investigation.
	Me. Who partied.
	Top two...
	This is from...
	Okay, sorry.
	NBC News.
	Top two top Border Patrol officials who partied with Mexican tequila mogul are now under investigation.
	I'm going to look this up afterwards for sure.
	Think about that, though.
	Think about that, bro.
	Are there any...
	What are they doing down there for his birthday?
	It's like...
	This is like a kamikaze truth mission.
	If you want my truth, you can...
	I'm bringing that...
	I'm here for truth, bro.
	I'm not making this up.
	No, you're there day in, day out.
	You see how it's working, and it's broken, whether or not it's by design or by incompetence.
	I think at this point, we all believe it's by design and non-incompetence.
	Did you have any experience with any of the Border Patrol agents being on the take?
	Were there any on the American side who are bribing or getting kickbacks for whatever?
	I would have reported them immediately because I didn't sign up for you to bring people into my country or do drugs.
	I'm sure it happened, like, you know, even Jesus, one of his disciples was Judas, right, or whatever, but I'm not like a theologist.
	I don't know the example, you know, Judas.
	I'm sure there's always, like, bad actors, but, like, as far as me seeing it, dude, like, maybe it's because they knew, but all me and my guys were just, I mean, you get paid so much, like, you have to be like a sick freak to take money when you're making $1.20, $1.25, especially down the border.
	It doesn't cost that much to live down there.
	What do you need money for?
	You're already doing okay for yourself.
	You're going to be so selfish.
	You already have all your bills paid for the most part.
	Maybe if a guy has a drug problem or he's just a one-off, but I've never seen it.
	I'm sure it happens.
	Maybe people get their family members across or something.
	I don't know what the reason would be, but I never even sniffed it on anybody.
	Although there was one kid at my station who was kind of like a quasi-agent.
	I don't really know the story, but he like...
	His license was like, somebody ended up with his license and Mexico was using it to cross into America.
	But then they removed him, I think.
	I don't really know the story behind it.
	And I never liked the kid either.
	I was like, this kid's weird.
	I don't like this kid.
	He was kind of non-agreeable towards me.
	Come to find out he was, like, caught up in something like that.
	So I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
	But for the most part, like, dude, these guys that are working, like, I will say, they're true patrons.
	They do love their country.
	It's a shame that...
	Let me say this.
	An agent called me and said, like, he's like, don't...
	He's like, stop.
	Like, make sure people understand what they did during COVID, okay?
	Like, everyone acquiesced then.
	So, like, to get mad at the agents for acquiescing now, it's like, you guys all acquiesced, but now I'm not supposed to acquiesce.
	I was like, hey, you got a point there, you know?
	Like, you do have a point.
	In a certain degree.
	The question that I just had...
	First of all, you have a dog, eh?
	Two kitties.
	Oh my goodness!
	Everything I thought I knew about you has been destroyed.
	Oh yeah, no, listen.
	Listen, I'm not...
	You mean kitties as in cats?
	Yeah, two little baby cats.
	No marriage, no kids?
	Engaged. But everything with my family, I try to keep...
	Private because they don't want that.
	It's not fair to them.
	I'm not saying you, but I'm just saying in general.
	It's not fair to them.
	My parents...
	No one expected me to be in this position.
	I'm sacrificing them almost for this.
	It bothers me.
	If not me, then who?
	That sucks, dude.
	That's the one part I feel sorry about.
	They didn't sign up for this.
	On a lighter note, by the way, this is not an ad, but Biltong is always in the house and he's...
	Biltong makes...
	It's a beef jerky made out of...
	It's like prosciutto made out of beef and he's amazing.
	And I'll read two of these.
	Biltong is one of the most protein-dense foods.
	Packed with B12, zinc, creatine, etc.
	Biltongusa.com, Diva 10 for 10% off.
	And Zach, can they send you some Biltong?
	I need it, bro.
	I gotta slim down.
	They're making the fat jokes.
	I went on Fresh and Fit.
	My belly was popping.
	I need high protein.
	Who makes fat jokes against you?
	Oh, dude.
	It was brutal.
	If you go on the Fresh and Fit, my belly, bro, it was like sick, dude.
	I just went to Whole Foods and I was like protruding.
	Oh, no, dude.
	It was bad.
	It was bad.
	How tall are you?
	I like to say six feet.
	When I met my fiancée, I was on a dating website.
	I said six feet, but with shoes.
	And then it's like 5'11".
	Whatever. It's a loose definition.
	I'm probably 5'11".
	With Timberlands, it might be six.
	Okay, amazing.
	What was I going to say?
	When you go up around mass, you just get used to being destroyed verbally.
	It takes a lot for me to actually...
	Being self-deprecating is the most fun.
	It's just awesome.
	I'll bring some of these up.
	Your courage, Zach, is exemplary.
	And then you've got the American Statue of Liberty in there.
	Let me make sure I didn't miss any chats here over on...
	Oh, and the roost thing says, Viva, please send this video to Don Jr.
	I think DJT might want to meet this impressive young man.
	I will use everyone in my network.
	Really? That's awesome, dude.
	I have no direct line to DJT, but Don Jr. and I, we're friends.
	We've met each other.
	I was like a fan of you before all this.
	When you reached out, I would have a like...
	I've seen you with Vinny Oshana on Unusual Suspects.
	Yeah, dude.
	I was always...
	You and Bonds, the other guy, Bonds, right?
	Yeah, Robert Bonds.
	It's amazing.
	First of all, I feel like an idiot because I saw the documentary and then I shared a Rumble link, which was a ripped version because I thought it was sort of like a no-copyright-exerted thing.
	And I felt so bad.
	Now I'm a member of Tucker Carlson's network.
	Listen, dude.
	People make mistakes, bro.
	People make mistakes.
	Like, I'm not a technology guy.
	Like, I don't even know how to go on...
	I'm, like, so bad with that.
	So, like...
	Here we got a question.
	Do you know Border Patrol agent JJ Carell?
	You need to get JJ on your show.
	I never worked with JJ.
	Dude, I'd highly recommend...
	JJ and Ryan Matta, like, super highly recommended.
	Okay, you'll send me...
	Yeah, I'll send you in.
	Oh, my God.
	Hernando Ase.
	He's the one that went to Springfield and had that RMV video.
	Dude, like I was like into him because he was showing that other side that I was talking about.
	I didn't know.
	Hernando Ase, Ryan Carroll.
	No, JJ Carroll and Ryan Mata.
	They're like super.
	Like, I don't know them.
	Like, we communicate online and I never worked with JJ. But like, because it's like they have a documentary and then there's like other documentaries.
	I think all the documentaries, as long as they're telling the truth and they'll.
	What's amazing is that...
	Not only should you not be sanctioned for what you're doing, and it's not to say that the public servant has a mean connotation to it.
	This is a national security issue.
	It should be transparent to the highest degree, not compartmentalized to the point where nobody, potentially even the head of the organizations, know what's going on.
	You shouldn't be penalized for describing the inefficiencies or the efficiencies of the Border Patrol service.
	You should be praised, and they should have public hearings on a weekly basis so that the people can know what's going on.
	They should reward you for not speaking out against the agency.
	If I was the chief, at that point, I have more of a bully pulpit to tell people this is wrong.
	I wouldn't want to be known as the chief of what's gone on the last few years.
	I'm embarrassed to say that I've been part of it for the last few years.
	If I was the chief, I wouldn't want my name attached to that.
	Do you have any concrete way of connecting?
	People that you've processed to people who go on to commit crimes in America afterwards?
	They do.
	I don't.
	They do.
	They know the files.
	I'm sure there's a record system.
	I can't access it.
	They're like, oh, it's an operational thing.
	I'm like, dude, I barely can access these systems, bro.
	I do a bare minimum.
	I'm telling everything I've said today, we already know.
	I'm just giving you anecdotal stories and public information.
	That's why it's incredible.
	It's like taking, because I'm not really telling people who don't know.
	No, well, that's also like, you know, the whistleblowers.
	I would love to see the internal documentation on that particular incident that you mentioned.
	Foxflame says, I work HSI OCIO.
	Government sees them as bodies, not people.
	And then we got, I'm not your buddy guy.
	He's from Canada.
	He says, how much faith do you have in the government isn't trying to subvert the country by trying to enlist support from foreigners they have brought into the country?
	Whether that support is voting or even other more nefarious means.
	Look at Minnesota.
	The lady's a cop.
	So she's not even a legal citizen and she's a non-citizen cop.
	And she's going to pull me over?
	Dude, it gets crazy.
	And they have no allegiance, so they'll just go along.
	They'll just do it.
	I think that was exactly...
	Yeah, I learned that from Jan.
	No, I was trying to think.
	It wasn't Jan who told me the idea of enlisting your own, basically your private military, paramilitary, but someone else floated that idea.
	Who was it that was talking about enlisting illegals into the military?
	I want to say Nadler.
	I think it was Nadler because I remember hating him particularly for saying that.
	Yeah, you enlist illegals who have no loyalty to the country, no loyalty to the people, and really only loyalty to the corrupt criminal...
	Politicians who let them in illegally, you have your own private militia.
	You have your American Foreign Legion.
	Like the French Foreign Legion, you have the American Foreign Legion.
	The legal American Foreign Legion.
	Let me just see who this...
	There is...
	Okay, that's just someone going in front of the ring.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, that was a ring.
	I thought it was my kitty.
	I have a ring set up all around the house, not even for intruders for my kitties, dude.
	I'm like a weirdo.
	I know there's a package out there, and then there's a...
	What do they call it?
	Exterminator. How about in Canada when they said, like, don't post the videos of people stealing packages off your porch?
	Because it's racist.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's anarcho-tyranny is the proper term.
	It's like where they're criminalizing law-abiding citizens and absolving the criminals because you can't expect any more from the criminals.
	In Toronto, they were telling you, the police chief was telling you to leave your fob at the front door so that when the criminals come and they're armed and they're not toy guns, he said, they only want your car, so just give them your car.
	I make a joke like, Should I leave them some warm milk and cookies while they're there?
	How is that guy saying that, dude?
	He just says it?
	He can go to bed at night?
	Is he a man enough?
	The funny thing is, it's like the Lewis Carroll quote.
	He said it with the blessing of his own soul.
	He thought he was actually doing his citizens a favor.
	Don't worry, I'm going to protect you.
	If you don't want to get assaulted by these guys because they just want to steal your shit.
	Leave it out for them to steal.
	And I guess he thought he was doing something good.
	And it's only when it's immediately rubbed in their faces and they're mocked that they realize, yeah, that was really stupid what I said about only a handful of complexes taken over by illegal...
	It's cowardly.
	They don't have to live in the world that they're creating.
	That's the problem.
	And the second they do, that's when they come over to the dark side.
	So you think because maybe I grew up like my father didn't make a whole ton of cash, like I seen it from that perspective, but if you didn't have to live in it, you wouldn't know?
	Is that why I get it?
	Because even if I didn't have to, I still want to put my name to it.
	Maybe that makes sense to me.
	Maybe they grew up higher elite, so they don't even know what the consequences really are.
	Well, it's a mixture of two things in my view.
	It's either that or they've come from rougher...
	It's like John Legend.
	He came from Springfield.
	He doesn't live there anymore.
	And so he gets to a point now where he can insulate himself with his own wealth and then...
	Feel good virtue signaling on social media.
	And if you have a conscience and you have a moral character, you pull the Kevin Sorbo's of the world, the James Woods, and you say, yeah, I've got the money and I've got the protection, but I still got the principle.
	And I'm not going to promote policy that's shit for the people who can't afford their way out of it, but doesn't affect me.
	Listen to Bill Maher talking about inflation not being so bad.
	I'm like, go buy some eggs if you even do your own grocery shopping.
	Go pay a mortgage if you even have a mortgage.
	So it's some- We'll pay rent.
	Yeah, rent, mortgage, frigging car payment.
	Go buy a car.
	Like, go do a car.
	Go look at a car payment.
	I used to sell cars.
	Like, go try to buy a Jeep Wrangler and, like, see what the monthly payment is.
	I learned the lesson when I came down here and we had zero credit and they were like, they wanted, like, charging 8.6% interest and that's if I could put $15,000 down on a car.
	It's nuts, but it's a system that's meant to keep some people down and meant to keep others up.
	But the question is this.
	And not to jinx it, Zach, but you could see the writing is on the wall and it's inevitable.
	What are you going to do if and when they say, okay, well, you're done here now?
	Yeah. One of the smartest guys I work with, like, off the record, asked me, he's like, what's your end goal?
	And, like, it kind of hit me like a ton of words.
	The way I do things is I'm not that smart, but one thing I will give myself credit for is I'm not scared to ask people for advice.
	My uncle and my father told me that I always ask people that are wicked smart for advice because people like to give advice.
	Just ask them for advice.
	That's why I've asked you a couple times because you're a smart guy.
	I don't even know.
	It's scary to answer that because I don't want to think about it, but let's get down to brass tacks.
	If I do, what would you...
	You're the first person I'd really ask.
	I mean, I'll just go back to selling cars, I guess.
	I think only not linearly just because of my experience where I think content creation and all these things.
	But the bottom line, I say good people don't really have to worry about it much.
	You will grow your wings on your way down.
	Do you remember the teacher who went viral for his teaching a kid how to think critically?
	No, I don't.
	Warren Smith.
	And when I had him on...
	Let me just see what's going on here.
	Yeah, dude, please.
	When Warren Smith was on, it's like, okay, you're not fired yet.
	You're on a contract.
	They're not going to renew it.
	Everyone could see it coming.
	He will succeed more on his own than he would making his boss money.
	I would not be worried about your future.
	When you get there, the path is going to be clear.
	But it's quite clear with the Border Patrol.
	If you were in my shoes, I don't know what's going to happen, but what would you be planning?
	I'm just literally going hour by hour, dude.
	Like, I have...
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	Like, seriously, dude.
	When the time comes...
	After this, I'm going to the gym.
	I'm going to shower.
	And then I get something with Owen Troyer.
	And then, like, tomorrow, I promise my fiancé, like, I don't care who it is.
	We're not doing anything tomorrow because I'm still working.
	So, like, I'm just going, like, what's today and what's tomorrow.
	And that sounds, like, wicked weird.
	But, like, what else am I going to do?
	What I'd like to do, and I'm going to just say this on the air, like, for the first time, I don't want to ask for cash.
	Like, I got a lawyer through O'Keefe.
	He's the man.
	Got me a lawyer.
	I'm a citizen attorney general.
	But ideally, if I cannot ask for any GoFundMe, give, send, go, if I can do that, which I plan to, like I pray to God I don't have to, I just don't want it to come off as like a money grip.
	I just want to come off as sincere and as honest as possible, dude.
	First of all, when you're on the internet, you will get accused of being a grifter.
	You'll get accused of being Mossad.
	The real group.
	The real group.
	The real grift would have been just to keep my mouth shut and keep the buck 30 a year rolling in with a Blue Cross Blue Shield.
	That would have been the real grift, I think, just to keep my mouth closed.
	I wasn't in trouble before this.
	I had my gun.
	I mean, you've seen the timeline of events so far.
	So it's like the real grift would have been just to not even message O'Keefe, I guess, and just keep my mouth closed.
	At least they'll pull the other guys.
	They'll give you a wooden gun.
	Have you seen the other guys?
	No, no.
	You've never seen the movie The Other Guys with Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg?
	No. You must watch it.
	I remember it now.
	Yeah. What the heck is going on?
	I'm not even looking at it.
	I don't know why.
	I got three phones and I've muted one of them.
	The other two are not funny.
	I love how neurotic you are.
	You're like the most neurotic man I've ever met in my life.
	It's amazing.
	You haven't seen the half of it.
	If only everybody knew, they would no longer laugh.
	They would actually feel sorry for me.
	I get these weird aversions now.
	These sound and material aversions.
	I get more autistic as this goes on.
	What's going on with me, dude?
	It's weird.
	Bubble jackets are starting to freak me out.
	There's a word for that.
	Sensorial sensitivity to touch.
	Dave2 says, gotta love Zachary.
	He's talking as if he's sitting in my living room carrying on unrecorded casual conversation after a couple of beers.
	Great. You're not going to have to worry.
	I can't booze anymore.
	I can't with my family history.
	Dude, I throw down a couple beers.
	I'm ready to get going.
	You know what I mean?
	This is caffeinated.
	This isn't even on the beers.
	You mentioned caffeinated.
	I got energy drinks yesterday.
	Good energy drinks.
	They don't have...
	Stucralose or crappy stuff.
	Zach, well, okay, we're going to keep in touch.
	I want to make sure that I think I got everything here.
	We're going to keep in touch.
	It's amazing what you're doing, and it will be...
	I'm still on the white pill October surprise.
	It's going to be people like you with not insider knowledge and any divulging secrets, but...
	Letting the cat out of the bag and letting people know what the hell's going on behind the scenes because it's worse than any of us could possibly know and it's going to take a number of people with your experience to let people know.
	So that's it.
	This has been amazing.
	It's 210.
	Oh my goodness.
	Zach, stick around.
	We're going to say our proper goodbyes.
	Where can people find you for the time being?
	You're on Twitter?
	Yeah, just Z-A-C-H, my last name, which is a weird last name, so it's tough to...
	I looked it up at me.
	It means pharmacist in Dutch, right?
	Yeah, I don't...
	I wish my father was a pharmacist or something.
	I don't know where it's...
	Apotheker meaning.
	A German word apotheker translates to pharmacist in English, meaning a person who...
	I thought it was an actual word in English, because I play a lot of Scrabble, but I'm going to add that one to the...
	So anyways, it's a beautiful last name.
	Oh, thank you.
	It's weird.
	No, it's weird.
	It was definitely...
	Once you know...
	You don't forget it, which is...
	My last name is Siheit, which is...
	German for freedom.
	So we got the free pharmacists here.
	Zach, we will stay in touch.
	It's amazing.
	Are you going to...
	So the line in the sand is the documentary.
	It's on the Tucker Carlson network.
	Tucker Carlson network.
	TCN. Are they doing anything of a media blitz, like a cross-country tour or something?
	I don't know, dude.
	I don't know what they're really doing.
	They've been great to me.
	Everyone's been good to me.
	But getting into this, people are like, oh, James.
	He's going to make the, like, saying weird stuff.
	I'm like, bro, I just wanted a big microphone.
	I don't – and I'm not just – I'm going, like, off-kilter.
	But, like, as far as, like, Jimmy and, like, the TCN, like, I just wanted, like, a big enough – I couldn't imagine the megaphone I got here.
	So I don't know what they're doing, if they're – like, I'm always grateful for them to include me, not include me.
	As long as they keep putting a message out, that's awesome.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm just doing my own thing, man.
	I'm the type of guy that my dad never had.
	My dad, we would go to the fair, we'd buy a place at the fair and sell Italian ice.
	I'm doing my own thing, brother.
	Not against them.
	I love these guys, but we're just getting the message out.
	So I'd imagine, because they're so professional, they're doing a big thing.
	It's a big issue.
	First of all, it's a big issue for an election cycle.
	If there's a change in administration, the villain truth-tellers to the prior administration become the hero leaders of the next administration.
	So if things go the way they should in this election, the future might be bright in terms of securing the very border that you signed up to protect years ago.
	Zach, stick around.
	We're going to say our proper goodbyes after this.
	And everybody else out there, I'll be live tomorrow.
	I've got to go get an MRI on my knee now because I believe I tore my MCL.
	So that's...
	I got plenty of time, but Zach, we're going to talk after this.
	So everyone out there, all of Zach's things are going to be in the pinned comment with the link to the TCN on...
	the movie on TCN.
	And Zach, thank you.
	And we will keep in touch anytime and every time you can come back on and we'll do this again.
	Yeah, you said we're going to say goodbyes, right?
	Yeah, so that's it.
	So now, okay, everyone, goodbye.
	Peace out.
	Oh, no, I want to say one more thing.

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