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Sept. 6, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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Russian Interference or Deep State Operation? Lauren Chen CANCELLED! Tenet Media SHUTS DOWN!

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	Oh, one other little tangent on the Russia thing.
	If this was really an RT effort, it would have been much more sophisticated, much more creative, much more innovative, and they would have targeted a whole different set of people.
	Lauren Chan's never been geopolitically savvy, nor followed for geopolitics.
	Tim Pool, you know, in the few instances he gets off a fence, which isn't all that common, let's be honest.
	Yeah, I mean...
	He's been anti-Russian most of the time he's been on there.
	It took him a while to even second-guess the Ukrainian war.
	The Benny Johnson?
	I like Benny.
	He's okay.
	But you're not going to look to him for geopolitics.
	And once again, not someone who's never been pro-Putin or Russia.
	Dave Urban?
	Same thing.
	He's a libertarian war skeptic.
	But there again.
	Not aligned on those issues.
	So those wouldn't have been the people they pitched anyway.
	The other giveaway that it was a spook operation, they stayed away from the people who would have smelled it, smoked it out really fast.
	So, like, for example, if you were really, even if you wanted to set this up as someone that's pro-Russian, if you were a spook operation, That had confidence you wouldn't get caught?
	Then you'd reach out to people like me and Vivo, right?
	They didn't because it would have smelled it 10 miles away.
	And so that was another giveaway, by the way.
	Who they talked to, who they approached, who they solicited was a sign that this was some half-baked spook operation by the diversity, equity, and inclusion.
	Appointee at the CIA and the FBI and the DOJ that all get together with their latest LGBTQ plus get-together.
	Hold on one second.
	It should be live.
	Stop screen.
	Let me see if I haven't...
	Are we live on...
	Let me refresh here.
	Okay. I see my face.
	On Locals, but it doesn't seem to be live on Locals.
	Hold on.
	Switch to RTMP.
	Give me a second here.
	I don't know why this is not a copy.
	Son of a beasting.
	Edit. Add.
	Oh, because I didn't add it and then save.
	All right, there we go.
	Okay, we should be live on Locals.
	Now, I don't think I need to replay the intro because that was Bourbon with Barnes from yesterday.
	Locals, if you're listening to me, do you hear me out there in the internet, people?
	One, two, three.
	Let me refresh.
	Let me refresh, see if I see my ugly face.
	There we go.
	I know that guy.
	Okay, we're live now.
	Good afternoon, everybody.
	Jeez, I did a brief 30-minute cameo on Eric Hunley's show earlier with Nate Coleman and Joe Nierman.
	I could have sat there fighting for a little bit longer.
	Let me see if I can invite, copy.
	Let me see if I can send this to Hunley.
	And see if they can bring me in so we can continue with this fight about the Russiagate 3.0 link.
	Can you bring me in?
	Let me see if this works.
	If this works, it'll be pretty cool.
	If I send him the StreamYard link, we'll see.
	I don't know if it's going to work.
	Good afternoon, everybody!
	It is Russia collusion strikes again through American.
	Weren't the Cohen ones lies?
	Where's the proof of guilt?
	We're going to get into this today.
	First of all, we've got actually a special guest, I guess, for lack of a better word, Taylor Hansen, who yesterday tweeted out.
	Let me make sure I don't bring up my DMs.
	I don't have anything illegal in my DMs, and I presume that the FBI and the CIA are already in my DMs in any event, but I don't want to put anyone's cell number on blast.
	Taylor Hansen.
	Former, I guess now former employee of the now defunct Tenet Media, which was Lauren Chen and her husband's company.
	I keep saying her husband as though her husband's not an individual human.
	I just knew Lauren more than her husband.
	But this is from Taylor Hanson who says, announcement, Tenet Media has ended after the DOJ indictment and I will now be pursuing other job opportunities so I may continue to report on vital news stories this election season.
	If you'd like to independently fund my work or you think I'd fit...
	In well at another source, let me know.
	All help will be greatly appreciated during this transition period.
	Hoping to be back on the ground providing y'all with breaking news ASAP, which stands for as soon as possible.
	And I saw that.
	I noticed that Taylor followed me on Twitter.
	I went to follow him back and asked him to come on and talk about it because I also gave him the...
	First of all, let him display himself to the world in terms of what he's doing because this is now a man who...
	Up until the day before yesterday was gainfully employed and is now not because it would seem some people don't learn anything from history and some people employ the very same tactics as the cancel culture on the left which employs the Nancy Pelosi guilty until proven innocent and not vice versa.
	Hold on a second.
	I set this all up.
	I'm not running ragged a little bit, but I'm pretty close to.
	We're doing homeschooling.
	We were out exploring this morning.
	I set the stream up late, and I don't think I set it up to monetize.
	Yeah, you can't run a stream on YouTube, on Commitube, and not monetize it so that they get to make money off my hard work.
	I don't think so.
	Good, sir.
	All right, we're good.
	We're live there, and I'm going to give everybody the link.
	To rumble from there.
	So yeah, we're now into day three of Russiagate 3.0.
	And I don't think anybody has learned their lessons or they've learned the wrong ones.
	Let me see if I can do this here.
	So sorry about this.
	I'm doing a little bit of cleanup.
	And I'll see if it...
	Are you able to bring me back into the stream with that link?
	If not, comma, no worries, period.
	We will argue later.
	Smiley face.
	So I was on with Hunley this morning talking about this indictment.
	Not learning the wrong lessons, not learning the right lessons from the past, or learning the wrong lessons, making the same mistakes that the left makes in terms of guilty until proven innocent.
	Let's go destroy somebody's life now.
	I read the allegations of the indictment.
	She's dead to rights.
	Oh, sure, the indictment didn't mention Lauren Chen or Tenet Media.
	Dead to rights.
	Let's cancel them.
	Let's destroy their lives.
	Let's drag their name through the mud so that if and when the second part of the story ever gets told, too late, damage done.
	And we're there now.
	Did you guys know this?
	Like, just overnight, YouTube took down Tenet Media YouTube channel.
	Why? I don't know.
	You know what?
	I shouldn't say that.
	I think I do have the idea as to why YouTube would have done it.
	There is a rule on YouTube that you can't circumvent A ban.
	And that would include running the content of a banned channel.
	I don't know if RT is banned on YouTube.
	I don't know that it is.
	But it doesn't matter.
	Fuck it.
	We'll figure it out later.
	Cancel now.
	Ask questions later.
	This is from the Economic Times.
	I'll read the other one.
	I got another one from a left-leaning rag.
	YouTube terminating tenant media channel after U.S. indictment.
	Forget a conviction.
	Forget, you know, like...
	A conviction for human trafficking or gross sexual improprieties.
	Forget that.
	Those rappers can keep their channels.
	They can keep their music on YouTube.
	And I don't think it should be taken down.
	I might be one of the few people who thinks, I don't think boxers or athletes should be stripped of their titles for out-of-ring conduct.
	When they strip Jon Jones of his titles because of his weekend activities?
	Bullshit! Jon Jones was the greatest UFC fighter in the history of the UFC.
	Whatever he did in terms of illegal activity or allegedly illegal activity out of the ring, irrelevant.
	You don't strip someone's titles for that.
	Biting someone's ear off in the ring, that we might be getting closer to conduct that could warrant stripping people of the titles that they earned through their physical prowess.
	Finding out that someone like Lance Armstrong was doping up and drugging up and that all of his titles were fraudulent?
	Yeah, strip them.
	Doing coke and getting into...
	Car accidents and hit-and-runs outside on the weekend?
	I don't care.
	You kicked ass in the octagon.
	Do you know that Jon Jones' only loss was the loss to the guy, I forget his name, Hamill?
	I know it had Mark in it, and I don't think it was Mark Hamill.
	For illegal elbow strikes?
	Bullcrap. So, hold on a second.
	I'm going back to this article that we want to talk to.
	YouTube terminating tenant media channel after U.S. indictment.
	Synopsis, in case you don't want to read an article that's two pages long.
	The Justice Department on Wednesday filed money laundering charges against two employees of Russian state media network RT for what officials said was a scheme to hire an American company to produce online content to influence the 2024 presidential election.
	Russia Gay 2.0.
	But my goodness, the allegations in this one are very, very serious.
	If you had read through the allegations in 2016, you would have said the same thing.
	Oh my goodness.
	Smoking gun evidence of Russia collusion.
	Alphabet's YouTube said on Thursday it was terminating Tenet Media channel and four channels operated by Tenet owner Lauren Chan following an indictment.
	Not just the channel.
	All of it.
	Erase her.
	Unperson her.
	And if you're one of these jackass, knee-jerk, reflexive conservatives that you've seen online, everyone should condemn her and burn her alive.
	She's a witch because they said she's a witch.
	The Justice Department on Wednesday filed money laundering charges against two employees of Russia's state media network, RT, for what officials said was a scheme to hire an American company to produce online content.
	Justice Department officials said the two employees used shell companies and fake personas to pay RT to an unnamed Tennessee company.
	Well, we know what that is.
	They didn't even name it.
	They didn't even name the company in the indictment, and YouTube has shut down her channel.
	All of them.
	Though the company is not named in the indictment, details provided in the court filings match up with Tenet Media.
	So they haven't even been charged, let alone convicted, or even named, but YouTube, the arbiter of truth and the arbiter of justice, now says your livelihood, gone.
	I'm sorry, what's that?
	Recent young family, gone.
	Oh, not just the one that was not even named in the indictment, all of it, gone.
	Tenet did not respond to a request for information.
	That's how long the article was, that it needed a summary, a synopsis.
	I'm sitting here watching this and I'm going a little bit crazy.
	Barnes made a good point in that whether or not this is in fact a Russia state operation or a deep state operation, well, you can come to your own conclusions.
	There's no definitive evidence to suggest that this was a deep state operation in this particular case, save and except for the fact that this is precisely what the CIA and deep state has done.
	In the past, precisely.
	Fake Russia collusion hoaxes is what the DOJ has done precisely as recently as 2016, and they ran with it with their Mockingbird Media that's doing the exact same thing now.
	So sure, in this particular case, they've got a very long, a very argumentative indictment that presupposes a lot of conclusions that it should be arguing towards, but whatever.
	You've got an indictment.
	What some people call a speaking indictment coming from a corrupt DOJ released two months prior to the November election that seeks to discredit prominent conservative voices to suggest that they are Russian stooges, that they were bribed into these lucrative contracts over which RT exercised no editorial control or even Russian elements.
	And that's in the indictment itself.
	So somehow they were victims and stooges and duped into providing...
	Unadultured, independent content for handsome fees, and that's Russia's way of interfering with the election.
	Holy hell, how stupid do you have to be to not be skeptical, at the very least, of this?
	And now, you get...
	Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson.
	Well, Benny Johnson seems to be coming out swinging.
	We'll see about that in a second.
	Rubin and Poole.
	Say, look, if there was fraud here, if there was money laundering, if the finances of tenant media, the rich European financiers who were financing their activities are in fact Russian state operatives, yeah, sure, we're victims here because we would never have taken that money in the first place.
	I mean, the idea that you can't even take money from entities to do independent work, I mean, all right, that's great.
	So you don't want foreign influences interfering in American media.
	All right.
	I mean, Carlos Slim might be getting indicted next.
	So I have no doubt that if they knew that these monies were coming from bona fide laundering schemes, they would have never taken it, period.
	To be determined whether or not it was in fact money laundering, and to be determined who in fact was doing the laundering, because you read that indictment, oh yeah, the money was coming from Turkey, United Arab Emirates, all over the place.
	If it was coming from Russia, why would they be...
	Laundering the money in that sense.
	So that you can't find out exactly where the money's coming from.
	Who else might want to be doing that?
	Who else might want to be setting up Tenet Media to get its financing from what will then later on be depicted as Russian interests to discredit and destroy the lives of Lauren Chen, her husband, their company, and to smear, by extension, the names of Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, Matt Christensen.
	And now, my deeper concern in all of this is that this entire indictment has put people on their heels, the alleged unwitting victims of this fraud, the Rubens, the Tim Pools.
	It has put them on the heels.
	It has put them on the defensive.
	And what do they reflexively want to need to do now?
	Or what does the FBI know that they are going to be incentivized to do?
	Yeah, we were the victims.
	We had no idea.
	We will cooperate with you, FBI.
	We'll sit down and talk with you because we're the victims in this as per the FBI.
	You guys are the victims.
	You would never have done this had you known.
	Of course not.
	Let's sit down and talk.
	You think any good is going to come from that?
	I mean, I guess I'm telling this to Tim Pool now and people can snip and clip.
	They are playing off.
	What they know to be the subconscious reflexive need of the commentators to make sure everybody knows that they were the victims in all of this.
	And they're going to play off of that to say, you guys were the victims.
	Let's sit down and talk.
	We just want to talk.
	And the only thing that can come of that is bad.
	You read that indictment.
	If it is a bona fide infiltration of this money laundering scheme, the DOJ knows everything.
	They were in the discourse.
	They were in DMs.
	They know everything.
	How they know everything?
	You might want to ask yourself that question.
	But they know everything.
	What the hell do they need to sit down with Tim Pool and talk for?
	They don't.
	And Tim Pool, you don't.
	And I would imagine you shouldn't.
	What are you going to tell the DOJ?
	That they don't already know based on the extensive details that they seem to have already had as relates to the drafting of that indictment.
	You're not going to give them anything that's going to be useful for them and not risky for you.
	And if nothing else, Tim, they won't incriminate you on anything, but the contents of the meeting will get leaked.
	People will know how much money you make, where you spend it, what you do in your personal activities.
	I mean, not that you're up to any no good.
	But they'll just leak things because it doesn't even have to be illegal.
	It doesn't even have to be remotely immoral to serve as smear tactics.
	They'll leak it to Yahoo News, like the FBI leaked the steel dossier to Yahoo News.
	Yahoo News will publish, oh my goodness, did you know that Tim has 20 chickens in his house?
	Well, I don't know, whatever.
	Maybe they'll find that the chicken coop is not as per regulation of whatever municipal bylaw there is.
	No good can come of it.
	I don't know what information Tim might have that the FBI...
	Apparently, or whoever's in charge doesn't already have.
	This smells like the very same setup that it was with Michael Flynn.
	Oh, gosh.
	See, I didn't want to start with all of this, but I was so in the heat of the...
	And now, Robert Barnes comes out and says, you know, they go...
	This is a Russian operation to promote Russian, I don't know, interests.
	But you read the indictment, and this is the beauty and the...
	I would say maliciousness.
	This is the malice of the indictment, which causes me to believe that there's more to this than a Russian operation.
	The indictment says, yeah, it's Russia TV, RT, state-sanctioned Russian media, Russian government interfering in American elections.
	And they picked three commentators, one of whom is Rubin, a libertarian DeSantis supporter, Tim Poole, who's a lefty.
	Only recently, in my living memory, came around on Second Amendment.
	Benny Johnson and Matt Christensen, and these are the people who are creating independent content because the indictment says there was no uniformity of messaging.
	Oh, because the broader message was just to sow discord in American politics?
	Oh my goodness, it's a win-win situation.
	It's either pro-Russian, in which case they're Russian assets, Russian stooges, Russian tools, promoting Russian propaganda, or it's anti-Russian, but then they're just sowing discord in American politics.
	So whatever they do, as per the drafting of this indictment, which causes me to be very, very suspicious about the motivation, whatever they do is going to be fitting into this election interference because it's just about sowing discord, whatever that messaging is.
	Then you read through the indictment and you realize it's basically just a...
	A research memo or an op-ed.
	It's an essay defending the war in Ukraine, defending the American endless financial support of that war, because anybody who's critical of that is doing Russia's Putin's bidding for him.
	Russians had to pay YouTubers to say what they already were saying The DOJ had to push the prosecution of a Tennessee company at their most corrupt court responsible for New York boroughs hundreds of miles away, nothing fishy at all says Brominated Vegetable Oil The The points in here cannot be emphasized enough.
	They had to pay YouTubers to say what they were already saying.
	Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Matt Christensen, Benny Johnson, they're not people who are ever going to change their messaging.
	For a paycheck.
	And they already had their respective platforms.
	Ruben has something of a small media enterprise mogul with locals, with his ties to Rumble.
	They didn't need it.
	But when you operate on the basis that they didn't need it, but here's a little extra gravy.
	Well, who knows that here's the gravy and now I'm going to hold it against you in the future.
	You know, to some extent, it might have been a gift.
	And one of my theories in life is that there are no gifts.
	There might be investments.
	And the question is, who is investing what in them?
	And I would say, if I had to be a little cynical, and if you give me 50-50 odds, I'm betting on this every day of the week, who would have a greater interest of greasing up that gravy train by giving Rubin and Tim Pool something that they didn't even necessarily need only to hold it against them in the future?
	It wouldn't be Russia.
	It would be a deep state operation.
	There was a second part to that.
	The DOJ had to push the prosecution of a Tennessee company.
	Don't forget that, people.
	Where was this indictment brought?
	The most corrupt district in America, maybe tied with D.C., the Southern District of New York, SDNY.
	Tennessee company.
	Lauren Chen lives in Tennessee.
	Reuben, I don't know where these guys are domiciled.
	It ain't in New York.
	I'm curious, actually.
	Whatever. SDNY.
	And then...
	Yeah, that's it.
	Well, the most corruptible in New York.
	And when do they bring it?
	Oh, this is a thorough...
	They've been investigating this for years now.
	Yep. And they drop it two months before the election.
	Definitely intel agency operation.
	YouTube obliging so quickly is all the proof you need.
	It's... This can all...
	This indictment can disappear tomorrow.
	Much like...
	What's-her-face said?
	Kamala Harris.
	You know, with the stroke of a pen, I could ruin your life.
	And I can drop that indictment two weeks later, your life is ruined.
	This can go absolutely nowhere.
	Oh, but it looks so damning.
	Anybody who read the allegations, oh my goodness.
	They used the word Russians in internal communications in 2021.
	Oh my goodness.
	Lauren Chan had a contract with RT.
	She was actually doing videos for them.
	Oh my goodness.
	And then YouTube, all they needed is the pretext.
	Boom, gone.
	This indictment disappears.
	She gets acquitted.
	Her life has been turned upside down.
	Just like that.
	Almost in tandem.
	Almost like...
	Like with Alex Jones.
	Oh, did I forget to put the...
	I mean, it's just...
	It's not just so...
	They've done this mutanus mutanus in the past.
	I'm not going to operate on the basis that I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
	I'm going to operate on the basis that this is another bullshit indictment intended to smear conservatives, promote the Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Anybody buying into it hook, line, and sinker has learned nothing.
	And I'm going to operate on that basis until I have incontrovertible proof to the contrary.
	The government doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
	or they get the scrutiny.
	says, brutally honest in my view, retired and social security want to live long enough not to see my country, USA, continue without being taken over by full-blown communism.
	Trump 2024, or we are done as a nation.
	Freedom. Thank you.
	I tend to agree with you.
	I mean, I voted with my feet, my eyeballs, and my dollar to come down here and pay taxes in the States so they can ship it off to the Ukraine.
	But if If this doesn't go the way it should, everyone will have learned the wrong lessons.
	The institutions that engaged in the lawfare sabotage and attempted murder, as far as I'm concerned, will have gotten away with it and they'll have learned that it works because there's a large swath of the population that just doesn't care.
	Free men die free.
	The reason the, quote, Russian interference, end quote, is nonsense is because Harris winning benefits Russia.
	Harris would weaken the U.S., and Putin knows this.
	He has no reason to interfere on the side of Tim others.
	But the whole thing about the indictment, anything they did would have been Russian interference.
	I mean, you could have...
	Is his name Carlos Slim?
	You could have the Mexican national owning the New York Times, and it's fine.
	But the second Russian...
	Just say the words Russia.
	I hope.
	I'm saying this tongue-in-cheek.
	Hey. If they find out that we've got some supporters in our locals community from Russia, am I a Russian stooge now?
	I took $10 a month from a Russian, and they're controlling the content that I create.
	Foreign Agent Registration Act does not apply to the media.
	Maybe it should.
	It applies to lobbying government.
	It doesn't apply to content creation.
	D Schneid says, looks to me like Russia and the CIA set up a trap in order to push this Putin-MAGA alliance.
	In order to push this Putin-MAGA alliance, much like QAnon is a globalist psyop, so is this.
	I mean, if that's what it looks like and that's what it smells like, holy hell.
	And that's what it's been operating like.
	I don't want to put anybody on blast in particular on Twitter, but...
	I was watching Bongino earlier as I was cooking some eggs and doing some math with a kid.
	He was going off on Justin Hart.
	Now, the reason why I'm not naming Justin Hart and putting him on blast is because I actually got so irritated with Justin, I had to mute him a while back because I don't know what happened.
	And I think, like, the DeSantis thing broke his brain.
	Just putting out the most egregious nonsense on Twitter, it became a source of frustration for me to see it.
	So I didn't even know that apparently he, according to Bongino, has fallen hook, line, and sinker for this latest, what I believe sincerely is an op.
	I don't know what evidence I need other than past, present, reasonable expectations, reading the allegations.
	I don't know what more I need to believe that.
	It's my belief.
	There are no proven facts right now.
	There's just the allegations that unnamed people, fabricated accounts.
	I mean, there's no...
	I could steel man Lauren Chen's position in all of this.
	And Tenet Media, you know?
	We saw...
	We had financing for a media company to promote what would rival the Daily Wire in terms of conservative influence.
	Independent thinkers, we don't all agree on any issues, and that's the beauty of tenant media.
	Oh, there's a foreigner who wants to invest, and I want to know what the terms of that agreement would have been, because hopefully there's some reasonable business terms to that.
	Bring him in.
	Bring him in.
	And let's do this.
	Let's build something beautiful, independent content creators.
	That's what Tenet Media was in substance and in delivery.
	So Steel Manette.
	Lauren Chen might be, to the extent that this is, in fact, they depicted her as the demon because she used the Russia words because she worked with RT.
	She might have just saw this as a legit startup.
	We're going to create a platform that's going to rival the other existing platforms out there.
	And we've got some conservative, religious-leaning, like-minded individuals who are billionaires.
	And what's another $10 million?
	I've had close friends working in startups.
	They get millions and millions of dollars in financing.
	Sometimes they get it as estate stuff.
	Philanthropic investments, philanthropic donations.
	And they burn through those millions overnight trying to start something up.
	And if they're lucky, they catch lightning in a bottle.
	And if they don't, well, money's dried up.
	So has the enterprise.
	This to me reeks like that money was coming from somewhere and it wasn't any Russian oligarch.
	It sounds like it was coming from intelligence.
	Okay. I see our guest in the backdrop with a beard that is actually even more beautiful than what I saw on Twitter.
	Taylor Hansen is a former employee of the now defunct tenant media.
	And I'll see what he can answer by way of questions.
	Taylor, I'm bringing you in.
	You ready?
	Everybody, this is going to get very interesting.
	Hold on.
	Add to stage.
	Sir, if I may, first of all, I will only say it once.
	That is the luscious, beautiful beard I've ever seen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I start pulling out the hairs when it gets too long.
	When it gets long here, they start to irritate me.
	Okay, fine.
	Enough of that.
	Taylor, we've never met in person, but we've known each other from online.
	Thank you for coming on.
	How is everything going?
	Well, it's definitely a weird transition.
	You know, we were all employed two days ago.
	You know, I woke up and I actually had just gotten back from Skid Row.
	I was in the process of editing my Skid Row documentary.
	I was out there for three and a half days.
	And the next thing I know, my phone starts blowing up and all of a sudden, you know, I have family members texting me and friends texting me, other reporters, and be like, dude, what is this?
	You know, I have CNN in my DMs, you know, all these mainstream media sources asking for comment.
	And, you know, none of the hosts actually knew what the hell was going on when it first kind of kicked off.
	Did I detect an accent, a Tennessean accent?
	No, no.
	I was born and raised in Montana, so there is a little bit of something there.
	I'm gonna have to go see how close to Tennessee, Montana is on a map.
	You seem to be a very young fellow.
	Yeah, I'm 24. 24. 24!
	You're fresh out of university?
	I mean, did you study journalism?
	How'd you get to where you are?
	No, I actually started my career in journalism in 2020, covering the 2020 summer of love riots that everyone loves so much.
	And, you know, I accidentally attended my first riot, documented some of it, found it very interesting, and then President Trump.
	I actually retweeted some of my coverage from Portland, Oregon, and that kind of slingshoted me into the industry, and I've been covering issues ever since.
	That's amazing.
	I'm going to ask you a lot of questions and leave it to your...
	I won't ask anything that I think would be over the top, but context, because some people on Twitter are saying, like, until two days ago, I never even heard of Lauren Chen, Tenet Media.
	I knew her from back in the day in Montreal, and I...
	I think nothing ill of her, which is why not only am I going to not give the government the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to treat them as guilty and treat Lauren as innocent, as should be done, people.
	How did you get involved with Lauren and with Pennant?
	Well, I've been independent for about two, almost two years at that point.
	I kind of had a stint where I worked and reported for the Post Millennial in between that time.
	I was just going hard on the on-the-ground coverage in one day.
	This is when I was living in Texas.
	I got a DM from Lauren Chen.
	I had known Lauren just a little bit beforehand.
	And she was talking about, you know, a potential job offer.
	They were interested.
	They were starting a new source, which was Tenant Media.
	And of course, you know, if anybody has been a journalist or a reporter that is independent, they know it is not an easy life.
	It's not an easy way to scrounge up money.
	It's based on if you're able to, you know, license your footage that you go and pay to actually go and take.
	And if it gets successful enough and the mainstream media is interested in it, then you basically sell said footage.
	So it's really not a very high-stakes job when it comes to pay.
	So you're working side jobs, kind of hustling on the side and everything.
	And when I got that DM, I was ecstatic.
	I was like, yeah, absolutely.
	Let's set something up.
	And that was kind of my introduction into Tenet.
	And that was last year.
	A little bit over a year ago, actually.
	I signed my contract in October, and then it actually kind of went into effect the next month, and that's when I started making exclusive content for Tenet.
	So exclusive for Tenet as of one year ago?
	Yeah. If we can, prior to that, so 2020, you start freelance journalism by accident covering the riots.
	Yep. We might come back to that just as a secondary discussion because that's got to be fucking wild.
	Anybody there with a camera has to be not a target but rather a threat to the rioters.
	I don't know how you get by doing that.
	You're completely right.
	So you do that independent stuff for a couple of years and you had only known Lauren Chen from the internet?
	Yeah, from the internet, we had met briefly in the Blaze studio.
	I believe it was the You Are Here show with Sidney Watson and Elijah Schaefer when that show was still kind of up and going before it was shut down.
	But I met, from what I remember, I actually met Lauren and Liam, you know, years prior to actually getting the job.
	But they had followed me online, had seen, you know, my social media is growing.
	And that's kind of the way that they invested in me initially.
	And Liam is her husband.
	I remember he's got a name as well.
	Okay, so then about, give or take what, a year ago?
	Over a year?
	I'm just trying to piece it together with the allegations and the indictments.
	I'd say it was about, it was almost a year ago that I actually started creating content for Tenet.
	And do you know how long Tenet had been around for before you got involved?
	So it was a brand new company.
	I believe like the official, I know that, you know, in the indictment, it says that they've been existing out of Tennessee for a while.
	That's just the business actual model.
	But they actually started hiring employees come October.
	That's when most of the employees were onboarded.
	And in the month afterwards, that's when we actually started to kind of do exclusive work on behalf of tenant.
	October 2023.
	And that's going to be a year in October of this year.
	Okay. And what was it, I mean, so what was the pitch to join Tenet?
	And what was Tenet like?
	I mean, as a startup, it doesn't really, it doesn't do anything yet.
	But there's a, what do they call them, a pitch deck?
	Or she tells you, like, this is what Tenet is going to be.
	This is our vision.
	What was that sold as?
	And how many people were there?
	Well, it was basically, I mean, it was one-on-one from what I understand with most of the creators Lisa was with me.
	Obviously, I was just interested because I wanted to get out of my situation being an independent reporter.
	And I was like, finally, you know, a source wants to sign me.
	After January 6th and, you know, filming the shooting of Ashley Badwin speaking out about that, I kind of was blacklisted from a lot of these larger sources.
	They didn't really want to touch me.
	They didn't know if the DOJ was going to come after me.
	And, you know, Lauren gave me that opportunity.
	And the pitch was essentially this, was, you know, we want to be different.
	We want to stand out.
	We want to be, you know, make good competition.
	We want to just tell the truth.
	Our whole business model was you can say whatever you want.
	You have complete control over your content.
	And to a reporter, that's heaven.
	You know, you go to a lot of these other places, these other networks, even conservative networks, and you never hear that.
	You still have some story direction.
	You still have an editorial board that edits your articles or that will edit your reports.
	But here it was like, no, you have complete freedom.
	We want you to be who you are, report who you are, and just do it under our name.
	So it was a great opportunity for me.
	And what editorial freedom is one thing, if I may ask, and it'll be interesting for other people who want to get into the industry, what was the fact-checking or...
	You know, an accuracy verification process with Tenant Media.
	Because it's one thing you can put your stuff out there, but someone's going to look over and say, did you ask this question?
	Did you verify that fact?
	I mean, everyone had their own producers.
	From what I'm aware of, the shows actually, you know, like Tim and he...
	He maintained his original team.
	Same with Benny.
	Same with a lot of the other people.
	And they operated their functions as normal.
	But as a reporter, I had my producer.
	My producer was fantastic when I worked with Tenet.
	And I would work out stories with him.
	We would figure out storylining of what we were going to document.
	And that was essentially the fact-checking process, was the fact that I'm a reporter and I'm expected to be honest.
	And that's kind of what my whole job hinges on, at least for me.
	It's like, you know, I have to do honest and accurate news reporting in order for people to actually...
	So that was kind of the process with me.
	But it was no over-the-top, you know, we want to add opinions in it.
	Like, I even filmed Man on the Streets for the first time in my career while working with Tenet, which is more cultural content.
	And in that cultural content, you know, a lot of people you see that film Man on the Streets, they'll go back and forth with the person.
	They'll kind of push them on their ideas or push them on their answers.
	But, you know, as a reporter, I was like, no, I'm just going to ask them a question and let them talk.
	Because that's the whole idea of, man, on the street, I'm getting the public's opinion.
	So there was really no, any of my opinion interjected or mixed in.
	And if I had an opinion to state, it was after I already covered and brought the news story.
	Can I understand the mechanism here?
	Because you described, you know, Benny had his team.
	You're a full-time, straight-up employee of Tenet.
	Yeah. So how many employees versus how many, I'm going to call them independent creators, for lack of a better word, but what was that structure?
	How many employees versus...
	The independent creators that were getting paid to create content.
	I can't speak on that super accurately, but I do know that the large majority of people that were employed were contractors.
	But me, I was one of the only W2 employees at the company.
	Because I signed salary, a lot of these other guys just...
	Kind of went the more contract route because they have a bigger audience.
	They have shows.
	They already have their own teams that they're bringing over that's producing the content because it didn't change.
	So they're already holding on to that initial team.
	And I actually needed an editor.
	I needed a producer.
	I needed all these things.
	Before I even go any further, are you allowed?
	I don't know if I can ask it.
	Have you been contacted by the FBI?
	I have not.
	Not yet.
	I have a history with the FBI.
	I'm not particularly fond of the FBI or the DOJ.
	Well, hold on.
	Parentheses number one.
	Go on.
	After my coverage on January 6th, and I filmed the shooting of Ashley Babbitt, and then spoke out about what I saw afterwards.
	And told the truth, because that's what you're supposed to do as a reporter.
	They labeled me a domestic terrorist, put me on the domestic terrorist watch list for almost two years.
	They had, I was about, I believe if my memory corrects, it's 48 air marshals over a two-year span followed me.
	The U.S. government spent over $100,000.
	Following me, monitoring me.
	I had to get multiple new phones because my phones would crash.
	People would be on the other lines.
	So I was illegally monitored by the federal government and labeled as a domestic terrorist.
	I couldn't buy a gun.
	I mean, it affected every single aspect of my life.
	I'd be followed everywhere that I went.
	Things would go disappearing from my house.
	It was a very interesting dynamic.
	And then finally, I threatened litigation.
	And all of a sudden, I was taken off the list.
	Because I was tired of it.
	And then all of a sudden, I can fly again without, you know, going through four hours of security.
	And I can just be a normal human.
	The three S's?
	Triple S?
	Quad S. Yeah, it was the Quad S list, yeah.
	And I had a TSA whistleblower reach out to me, and they sent me the document of, you know, my face on it, all the flights that they've ever followed me on.
	And we did the math, and they spent over $100,000 just following me as a reporter that they knew wasn't involved in any shape, form, or way, but just because I filmed the video and said some things afterwards.
	Well, holy shiat, if I may say that this adds another angle as to why potentially, if we're looking for the, if we're looking to...
	Build the theory that this is a deep state operation, why they would target Tenet Media.
	You've been with Tenet Media basically since the inception of the corporate entity.
	And you're a persona non-grat.
	You're a domestic terrorist, according to the FBI.
	Yeah, essentially.
	Holy hell.
	Now, it refreshed my memory because I know that now I'm piecing two things together.
	What was your assessment of the shooting of Ashley Babbitt?
	What did you come out and say that...
	One, that it wasn't right.
	And then I come from a family of law enforcement background.
	I know rules of engagement.
	I know how law works.
	I've covered all these riots.
	And the act of actually shooting Ashley Babbitt was in violation of pretty much every single rule of engagement in the book.
	You talk to any officer out there, any former Fed out there, they're all going to say the exact same thing on this, at least for the most part.
	And then the fact that...
	I named the shooter a month afterwards after the mainstream media.
	They refused to name him.
	This is, I would argue, the largest shooting, at least the most important shooting that we've ever seen in the entire country.
	This is in the Capitol building during an election, and the coverage was just minute, other than they were labeling her a terrorist, they said she was violent, they said she was breaking things, and I came out with the shooter's identity that they were.
	concealing from the public and that really pissed him off and then I appeared on Tucker Carlson Laura Ingram and multiple other programs and after that uh what kind of added another sprinkle onto it was the fact that I showed the public through video evidence that Ashley Babbitt was literally trying to help the officers when she was shot and killed so she was she approached the door and she was yelling at them to call for backup call for help and She's former military.
	She understands rules of engagement as well.
	And throughout video footage, I clipped all this together.
	Hey, she's yelling for help for these cops.
	She's trying to get them back up.
	They're not listening to her.
	And then they shifted away from the window.
	And Zachary Long, who was actually punching and shattering all the windows, he was the aggressor in the room.
	He went to go break that final window, and he did.
	And she grabbed him and punched him in the face, which then he dropped his glasses.
	John Sullivan started yelling, gun.
	And then Ashley, instead of Zachary Long, went up inside that window.
	Because you hear a gun in a concealed room, you're going to think it's on the side that you're in, too.
	Nobody knew that Michael Byrd was sitting there around the corner waiting to ambush somebody with a firearm other than me and John Sullivan.
	We're the only ones that saw the gun.
	And in a room where there's 200-plus people, you can't really hear that well or even see that well.
	So I would imagine, you know, I'd love to ask her, but I can't because she's dead.
	You know, why did you go through that window?
	And I have two theories on it.
	Well, she was trying to help the police, and that's documented evidence.
	She tried to help the police on multiple occasions, and she even took out the largest aggressor in the entire room as a woman, which is insane.
	And then she would hear a gun, and if I hear a gun, and I don't know where the gun's at, I'm getting the hell out of there.
	And she's cornered in that little tiny window area.
	So that's kind of my conclusion on it.
	But I revealed that she was trying to help the police.
	She didn't break anything.
	She wasn't violent.
	She actually tried to stop the aggressor.
	And after that, the FBI stuff really started flooding in.
	You are...
	How close...
	We won't spend the entire show on this, but how close to her are you?
	I mean, we saw the video, but is that six feet?
	Is it arm's length?
	I'd say it was about eight to ten feet, give or take.
	I mean, what does that do to you?
	I mean, it's one thing to be a journalist, and that doesn't mean that you're not a human anymore.
	What does that experience do to you, and how has that impacted you on a longer-term basis?
	That was awful.
	I mean, I struggled for years after that.
	For two years of my life, it was an everyday struggle.
	You wake up, you have that, you know, it's almost like an overlay.
	That's the best way to describe it, is you could be doing something completely normal throughout your day, and then the next thing you know, you're back in the scene.
	You know, I could be sitting here talking to you.
	Thankfully, I don't deal with it anymore.
	But all of a sudden, the feeling that you experience when you watch the woman die and bleed out, and the vision that you saw, the blood, every detail, even how the air smelt, would come back to you.
	And that happened for two years of my life.
	And we dealt with PTSD afterwards, and I've known other reporters that have...
	Witness things, you know, like the Rittenhouse shooting and have watched people die on the ground and they all report the same thing.
	I mean, it's never a fun experience to watch somebody die in such a violent manner.
	So I definitely struggled with it for quite a while afterwards.
	And you revealed that it was Michael Bird, which obviously allowed the internet to determine that this guy was not only an upstanding cop, he was a negligent idiot who had prior left his gun in the bathroom, had his own issues.
	Okay. I mean, that's a very interesting angle to add to all of this.
	And so, not presumably, but definitively, DOJ knows that Tenet Media, the first employee that they bring on, is you.
	Domestic terrorist, Taylor Hanson.
	Okay. As the company's getting started, and just to highlight again, they have not reached out to you at any point about any investigation into this company?
	No. I believe the only person they've reached out to, from my understanding, is Tim, and that's because he made a public statement on it.
	Do you have any idea how they got all of the alleged information for the allegations in the indictment?
	I have no idea.
	The Discord messages are really interesting to me.
	Cernovich had a pretty good tweet on this talking about FISA warrants, and I think that's kind of how they tapped into it all, because...
	All those discords are private, every single one of them.
	We all had separate chats for our separate teams.
	Like I had a Taylor Hansen chat.
	That's where my editor was at.
	That's where my producer, my graphics designer, you know, Lauren, multiple other people are in that chat.
	And then every creator has separate chats.
	But in the indictment, there's chats that are private from people that aren't even involved, from us creators and stuff.
	And it's like, okay, well, how did you get access to those?
	Because The raid didn't happen that long ago.
	You know, they didn't have access to these devices the whole time.
	So, I mean, for a fact, 100%, they were monitoring, I think, tenant media from the beginning.
	I think this was, they honestly probably, as tenant media was conceived, they were probably monitoring it the entire time.
	That's what it seems like to me.
	And you mentioned FISA, and then we'll go back to Russiagate and Carter Page and the unlawful FISA warrant that they got via Kevin Clinesmith for falsifying evidence, lying to the court.
	A little more rhyming.
	So, you're the only employee.
	How many creators, independent creators, we know the four big ones, at least we now know some of them have made public statements, but Christensen, Rubin, Poole, and Johnson.
	Were there any other ones?
	Lawrence Southern.
	Lauren Southern, that's right.
	So those are the five, not just the five chief, but the five only independent commentators that were affiliated with Tenet.
	Yeah, and then you had me, and my only job at Tenet was to be the reporter.
	So they were all the commentary, and then I generated the news side of Tenet.
	When I read through the indictment, the only question I ask, and I don't know if you have any knowledge of this, or even if I should ask it, but the issue is financing.
	You're a startup, and anybody who's had any experience knows you're starting up, you're looking for investors, but then the question becomes, was that financing for seed investment?
	Was it a loan?
	The $10 million, we're going to get down to how it was broken down afterwards, but the millions of dollars that went into the company, do you know if it was a shareholder?
	They were not shareholders, I presume.
	Do you know what reason or what the business explanation was for that?
	I believe we just had multiple donors.
	That's at least what I was told.
	I believe it was three predominant donors that were European and one French.
	At least that's what I remember.
	And I'm pretty sure that was the understanding that most of the other hosts had as well.
	And I didn't think anything of it.
	I mean, it's a media company.
	I didn't know we were...
	Allegedly taking Russian money.
	Ooh, you know, the big boogeyman, the big Russian word.
	No, it's normal for a startup.
	I mean, it's normal for a media company.
	You tap into, you know, multi-millionaire, multi-billionaire dollar donors that are interested in funding a media group.
	We see this time and time again.
	This is the standard practice and the standard setup for media companies when they first get off the ground.
	So I was personally just ecstatic to have a job.
	I was excited that I could cover what I want.
	Nobody was going to censor me.
	I could say what I want online.
	I could say what I want in my reports.
	And that was the biggest thing for me.
	But it didn't set off any red flags with...
	And apparently not any of the other creators because we all signed off.
	And when you say rich people donors, was it supposed to be a donation?
	Was it supposed to be a philanthropic donation or a loan and pay it back with 2% or whatever?
	From my understanding, it was just basically a philanthropic donation.
	These people believed in starting a media company.
	And they knew that Lauren and Liam were a great avenue to do that.
	They had the connections.
	They knew a lot of people in the industry.
	And, I mean, you will not hear me throughout this whole thing or ever, probably, badmouth Lauren or Liam Chen, because they've been fantastic to me.
	I don't feel like I've been duped or deceived, you know, in any shape, form, or way, because we don't even have the truth yet.
	I mean, we have an alleged indictment.
	You know, maybe that'll change a little bit later on if, you know, it does come out and we were lied to about where the money was coming from.
	But we see time and time again in media.
	Our mainstream media sources, we take money from China, from Qatar, from Israel.
	We can take money from every single different country, but God forbid you take money from one Russian dude.
	And we don't even know if it's true yet.
	But Lauren and Liam have been nothing but fantastic to me, and from what I'm aware of is fantastic to the other hosts as well.
	They've never talked down on me.
	They've always supported me.
	They've always allowed me to have full content creation and control over it.
	And that's another thing in the indictment that I really didn't understand, because...
	I talk to all the other creators on a regular basis, and it's like, no, none of us felt like we were being directed to cover certain things or to say certain things.
	The entire idea of Tenant Media is that we are going to be different from every single digital media company in the aspect that we get to cover what we want.
	We get to talk how we want.
	It's complete freedom, and that's exactly what I had.
	I was never directed to, you know, shill for Russia or talk crap on Ukraine or anything like that.
	One of the allegations talked about the commentator.
	Oh, was Tucker affiliated?
	Tucker was one of them as well?
	I don't think he was affiliated.
	I think what happened early on is one or two of the donors were interested in Tucker.
	And that's about the extent that it goes.
	They wanted Tucker and the price margin was probably too high.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	And then they ended up picking a pool in others.
	I think there would have been an issue with Tucker because this would have been post-expulsion from Fox where he was still contractually bound not to make money.
	He was still under contract, but they just weren't bringing him into work.
	When I read this, I have to now go back and read it with this in mind because that allegation about this feels too much like Schilling ostensibly talking about Tucker Carlson.
	I don't think at that time...
	I'm not sure that he would have been able to even get paid, which is why he has an agreement with...
	Twitter, which I don't believe is remuneration-based until his contract with Fox is over.
	Okay, so let me think about that.
	But that allegation, this feels too much like shilling, do you have any personal knowledge of that?
	It's crazy to me.
	I don't have any personal knowledge of it, but it's like, how does it feel like shilling when it was referring to the Moscow video of Tucker and Moscow, from what I'm aware of.
	And it's like, that trended for days on American Twitter.
	All of the biggest, you know, talking heads and all the biggest influencers were posting that video in a positive light.
	So it's like, God forbid.
	Tenant Media posts the exact same thing.
	A video that is trending, which is standard media practice for any media company, you see a video going viral, you're now going to take that video and you're going to post it on your own platform because it's going to get you high engagement, most likely, if people are going to share it, which people were sharing that video like wildfire.
	So I don't personally think it was shilling.
	I think it was just, you know, it just seems, the indictment, it seems crazy to me because...
	And you have so many conservative commentators now.
	You know, turning against Lauren Chen, turning against Tenet Media, and even slandering some of the hosts that have no acknowledgement.
	I mean, you should see my comments right now.
	It's absolutely insane.
	I'm just flabbergasted.
	Nobody's learned anything.
	And now, adding to the mix of my suspicion, you're literally deemed a domestic terrorist by the same entity that is investigating this company.
	The sturnage, I'm going to pull that tweet up in a bit.
	The Pfizer warrant makes a lot of sense.
	Sounds very much like 2016.
	And the right, I don't know who they are and I don't want to label them, but I do notice some similarities or common themes among the people who are Lawrence guilty.
	We demand answers and she should burn in hell.
	It's sort of like mutually incompatible statements.
	It's wild.
	It's like we've learned nothing, but it's achieving the exact goal that I'm sure they wanted to achieve, which is something like an Operation COINTELPRO sowing discord among allies right before an election.
	Okay, so there's some...
	Rich Europeans say, we want to help you start up.
	A million means nothing to us.
	And the company takes it.
	The vast majority goes to the five creators.
	This is something else that I hadn't actually fully thought of.
	Everyone's like, oh, that's a lot of money to pay them for.
	I don't really want to know the breakdowns.
	It's dirty.
	It's none of my business.
	The views.
	Some people are saying, you should know that this is a money laundering scheme because the views can in no way justify the remuneration.
	I say on that, first of all, I don't even know what views they're looking at because this is going YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter.
	I don't know how you measure the views, but were there any performance metrics for any of the creators or we'll reassess in a month or two months or a year?
	No, I mean, from my understanding, there wasn't any performance expectations or anything.
	The only expectations that were placed is a certain amount of videos a week.
	And I was a little bit more loose in those expectations because I did breaking news, and when I wasn't traveling for breaking news, which is last second, and that's to kind of boost the Twitter, is, you know, that was kind of my main job, was to gain followers and traction on the Twitter, because that's where I would break news.
	That's what was successful in growing any, you know, news Twitter, and so that was kind of my main job.
	Okay, I'm going to mainly focus on breaking news.
	I'm going to grow the Twitter.
	I'm going to get, you know, X amount of analytics.
	And if the analytics are going up every single month of my coverage, I'm doing my job.
	And then when I wasn't doing breaking news, I would do Man on the Streets.
	I would do culturally related content.
	And that would then go on the YouTube.
	And I mean, the YouTube has started off slow at first.
	But I mean, we hit 315,000 followers in less than a year.
	I would deem that a success.
	I would deem that a pretty big success.
	Not that I had any method or...
	It took me...
	I only hit 100,000 in 2018.
	Yeah, well, the idea that it's a blatant money laundering up because we have low views.
	The channel just started.
	You're going to have low views because they're licensing the footage from creators and putting it on this independent channel now because they're trying to build that platform.
	And flesh that out for me, just to make sure I understand this as a matter of fact.
	They're licensing the content that Tim Pool and Ruben and others were putting out on their own platforms as well.
	That's accurate?
	Yeah. I believe Benny Johnson, he produced a show called In the Arena, and that was exclusively for Tenet.
	And that would then go on the Tenet channel.
	I think that was once a week that he would post an episode.
	And then Tim Pool, he had the kind of loosest agreement when it comes to licensing from everybody, is that He would take an already existing show with his already existing staff.
	And then that would then, instead of being uploaded on Tim's personal channel, it would then be uploaded on Tenet's channel to boost views.
	And that's what drove a large majority of our audience over originally.
	And then Lauren Southern, she just produced her normal content.
	And she was still uploading on her personal channel too, some videos whenever she'd want to.
	And then she would produce videos for Tenet.
	And then for me, I was the only one that was like...
	All in, all of my content goes exclusively on Tenant.
	And, you know, I had the Tenant banner, the Tenant in my bio, you know, I was rocking the Tenant tees, the Tenant hoodies when I'm on the ground, because I had pride in the brand and the aspect that, okay, I can do what I want.
	These people are giving me freedom, and I can report, finally, I can do my job.
	But everyone's agreement was a little bit different.
	Obviously, I can't really get into the logistics of their appointment.
	It's the dirtiest thing in the world that we even know what they were paid because It's absurd that they released all that publicly in the DOJ document.
	People are accusing me of being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, and I can assure you that was not the case.
	I say the two lingering taboos, sex and money, and for good reason.
	They're very intimate pieces of information, but for exceptions no one needs to know.
	And the other thing is, Ruben and Tim Pool command...
	I don't want to single them out.
	Those content creators command what they got because they command what they got.
	Period. That's the thing.
	You have people discussing, how did you not know this is money laundering?
	How did you not know this was Russian money?
	These guys are worth that amount.
	They have millions of followers.
	And if anyone knows or has been in the media industry for a long and extended amount of time...
	You know, X amount of money for Tim Pool, that's not a lot.
	You know, Tim has earned his way in the industry when it comes to making a lot of money.
	And we shouldn't sit back and, you know, be greedy judges about it because it's like, no, the dude's earned it.
	Like, that's standard practice for the media company, for hosts to be paid that much.
	And hosts always get paid more than reporters as well.
	That's what a lot of people don't understand.
	You know, I'm being grouped into that, you know, high echelon tab.
	And I'm like, no, like, I'm...
	I just did it because I liked the job.
	That's my biggest thing.
	Hopefully you're a charismatic, good-looking young man.
	You should be able to get there quickly.
	So that's another, just to rebut the arguments that some people are making, there were only so many thousands of views.
	This was content that was going across multiple platforms, including their own, where presumably it got the most viewership to begin with.
	The money laundering angle to this also kind of confuses me because typically...
	It took me a while to understand the car wash, money laundering, and breaking bad.
	If the money laundering is just a way to lose the money, well, you're not actually bringing illegal money and then making it legal.
	The laundering accusation here, the donors of the money we're getting, if it's purely philanthropic, with no expectation of shareholders or interest, they're giving money away.
	And literally getting nothing in return, except for what we're supposed to believe is information laundering, that you're going to be pushing inadvertently or unwittingly Russian propaganda, except the indictment says it wasn't even that way to begin with.
	So the laundering, to me, just sounds like burning.
	And so, I mean, they've given millions of dollars.
	Let's just say, round it up to the 10. 8 million went out to all the creators.
	2 million went to other operations.
	Your salary, Lauren is entitled to draw salary.
	The question is going to be the big one, which only Lauren can...
	Lauren and Liam can answer is, where do they think the money was coming from?
	But in terms of banking, I know that I can't even transfer between my own personal accounts in Canada to the US without it being registered.
	There's certain amounts, and they're not much, like thousands.
	Is there any reasonable chance that there was no due diligence or administrative protocol implemented when these monies were being transferred from wherever to tenant media?
	See, I'm not entirely sure on the money transfer process, but I will touch on something you said is that it seemed like just burning money.
	And, you know, there's no direction.
	All the hosts have came out and said, there's been no direction for us to cover certain things or to overtly chill for Russia or to post, you know, certain content.
	We have complete control over our content.
	You take a bird's eye view of you're a Russian, right?
	You're two RT employees that are funded directly by Putin that want to divert the American election or to push the Russian agenda in America.
	But you're giving an alleged $10 million to creators that...
	Have been openly vocal of Russia, that are openly vocal and anti-war.
	And I mean, you're quite literally burning money for no reason.
	There's no return on investment for that at all.
	So it makes absolutely no sense that that's the route that the DOJ is going, is that they were funding us because...
	Why we wanted to alter the election or we wanted to push Russian talking points, it makes no sense at all because we were all our own independent persons.
	So there's really no legitimacy.
	I read that and I was like, what is going on?
	Like, you know, there was never a Russian...
	Talking in my ear, telling me what to do.
	All of my content was mine.
	All of Tim's content, all of Benny's, all of Lauren's, all of Ruben's.
	We all had our own original ideas and we just posted on the platform.
	So that's part of the indictment.
	Doesn't make sense at all.
	Well, especially they sort of got ahead of the ball on that one where they said in the introductory paragraphs, there was no uniform messaging.
	But generally speaking, it was to sow discord.
	So even if there was no uniform messaging, but my goodness, did they come back over and over again to Ukraine and anything that would be...
	Mildly critical of Ukraine.
	Oh, son of a beasting.
	I just forgot my mouth.
	Oh, the two Russians.
	Kalashnikov, which is such a...
	It's like we're in a simulation.
	Kalashnikov and Molotov, the two characters.
	I'm joking.
	The other one was Aspen Zedieva.
	Did you ever meet them?
	I never met them personally, no.
	My editor's name was Kostya.
	Which they then named in the indictment as the full name Kostina, something I can't pronounce it, Kalishnikov.
	And so I never actually met them.
	I don't know if the Kostia account was actually what they're saying it was, but it was my editor.
	I would send all my formats to them.
	What I would do with my videos is I would...
	Pop all my footage that I took into a project file in the order that I wanted it, and I would send it to them, give them prompts on what I wanted added to it, how I wanted it edited, and then they would send me a rough draft back, and then I would be like, okay, yeah, that's great, but change these things.
	And then they would send me the full video back of those things changed.
	I would tell them what shorts I wanted for social media.
	So, you know, potentially I was in contact with Kostya, but it was like, they're listening to me.
	Editing my footage in any crazy way.
	They're literally taking orders from me on how to edit my footage.
	So how is that a Russian disinformation?
	Dude, this is why I still edit my own stuff, by and large, because I can't stand the waiting for them to send it back and then do it.
	So basically, when you say they're editing your stuff, and this is why also there's a misnomer that editing has two different terms.
	One is technical, the other is judgmental.
	Oh, you edited my answer.
	Editing means they're just putting it together, cutting out dead scenes, putting in overlays and whatever.
	Editing it for the purposes of production, not editing it for the purposes of content control.
	Exactly. There was no content control in it.
	The whole idea of me going into a project file on Adobe Premiere first and putting in what I wanted in the order that I wanted it was so there would be no content control.
	That's what you do, and you make the job of the editor easier.
	You say...
	I want this here.
	I want an overlay showing this.
	Make a cool intro of all the most intense moments.
	You know, collab.
	Throw it at the beginning.
	And that was pretty much it.
	But there was no content direction or content control.
	I was fully in charge of my videos.
	And there was multiple times where I didn't like something.
	You know, the way that they cut a clip or the way that they did something, I'd be like, oh, hey, we fixed this.
	Or you didn't blur a swear word out.
	And we're trying to get monetized on YouTube.
	So then they go back and they blur it.
	But I was in complete, you know, editorial control.
	Of all of my footage that was ever published.
	So you never met Costa?
	That was the alleged editor who they allege is the mask name for the other defendant.
	Not Kalashnikov, but the other one.
	And I will say, if it is Costa, they were a great editor.
	They edited my videos fantastic.
	I'm going to make a joke that's going to get me on an FBI watch list.
	I need an editor.
	Okay. This is my question.
	The two of them, the two defendants, you never met them.
	Were they or do you know if they were working for RT at the time?
	Or was that just part of their resume?
	I have no idea.
	I didn't even know, you know, where they came from.
	I mean, it's not my job to ask questions, you know, other than they're my editor in my chat.
	And that's pretty much as far as it goes.
	And I was satisfied with the editor.
	So I was never like trying to be like, oh, I need a new editor.
	I need this.
	Or, you know, I wasn't like, hey.
	What time is it where you're at?
	Like, I never, you know, can I see your birth certificate?
	No, there was never any of that going on.
	I did that once.
	I just said, government-issued ID, that's all I need to see.
	Very, I mean, okay, that's interesting.
	And now, so then, business as usual for a year, you have no, or give or take, you have no idea you're being effectively surveilled probably from day one.
	When does this shit hit the fan?
	Well, I mean, it hit the fan a few days ago.
	You know, it took us all by surprise and none of us knew what was going on.
	We were all producing our normal content.
	Matt Christensen literally had his weekly stream scheduled for the night that the DOJ indictment was released.
	I was in the process of editing my documentary that I just filmed in California, Skid Row.
	So it was just kind of blindsided.
	I woke up, I started editing, and the next thing I know, my DMs were getting flooded and my Gmail was getting flooded with media requests from CNN, NBC, all these mainstream sources.
	And interestingly enough, at the exact same time as each other, you know, right as the DOJ indictment dropped, it was almost immediate that I'm getting these media inquiries, which almost, in my mind, it's like, okay, it was somewhat orchestrated.
	We've seen this in the past where indictment drops, a press conference is held, and the next thing you know, The media coverage is all in unison, all just crazy rampant, going like wildfire.
	And that's what it felt like in my DMs.
	And that's how it was for all the creators on the platform and even some of the producers.
	And it was like, we're all just getting bombarded.
	We don't know what's going on.
	And we can't get in contact with, you know, Lauren or Liam.
	We can't get in contact with anybody that we need to.
	So we're just calling each other and being like, hey, did you see this?
	And we would discuss it.
	I remember the first day was literally just me hopping on calls with other creators, other hosts, my producer, and just trying to get updates on what was going on.
	And it was like that for most of the second day as well.
	It's sort of like how the New York Times was waiting outside James O'Keefe's apartment when he was raided, CNN outside Roger Stone for his pre-done raid.
	They seemed to get tipped off.
	So, I mean, can I ask you this?
	Have you spoken to Lauren in the last couple of days, or have you spoken to her since?
	I haven't spoken to Lauren, no.
	I found out that Tenet was basically defunct last night, as well as all the other creators, because Liam issued a statement to us.
	So that was pretty much the extent that I spoke to them.
	I spoke to Liam privately afterwards for just a brief moment and just wished him luck.
	And, you know, thanked him and said, you know, me and my wife are going to be praying for you.
	We hope this all turns out.
	And like I said, I have no ill will against Lauren or Liam.
	We don't even know if these accusations are true yet.
	They have been nothing but kind to me.
	They've given me a generous offer, you know, and they made my life possible for the last...
	So, there's really no ill will there, and there's really no need to have it.
	I get the controversy going on, but it's literally just people jumping the ship, and it's the same people that have been so critical of the DOJ for years that now all of a sudden they're like, oh, actually...
	The DOJs tell them the full 100% truth this time.
	Can you imagine when they raid Trump's Mar-a-Lago, we know what they did there.
	In all respects, setting something up for a violent confrontation, staging the evidence, leaking the photo of the staged evidence on the floor.
	And all of a sudden, no, no, no, no.
	Hey, they said she...
	It seems so dirty to even ask these stupid questions whether or not she used the term Russians.
	Did you know that Lauren had contracted with RT for content in the past?
	I wasn't aware of it, but at the same time, so many Americans have contracted with RT in the past.
	So in my mind, it's like, okay, it's another revenue source.
	They're not directing your content, at least from what I'm aware of.
	And even if I knew that she had contracted with RT years prior, I still would have signed the contract.
	Because if anyone knows anything about media...
	You know that you work for multiple sources.
	I mean, the Blaze didn't care that she had contracted with RT in the past.
	You know, Turning Point didn't care, at least from what I'm aware of.
	And it's like, why would we care if it's in somebody's past and there was no blatant, you know, election interference or lying on the platform?
	I mean, I've appeared on RT for programs.
	I've never been paid by RT, but they've had me on RT for the sake of, I remember I confronted John Bolton on him being a war criminal and basically celebrating when Julian Assange was arrested.
	And RT reached out to me like, hey, would you like to come on and talk about this?
	I was like, yeah, sure.
	I didn't think anything of it, but it doesn't mean I'm a Russian disinformation asset.
	It's just the whole narrative is crazy.
	I know.
	I've been on our team more times than I can count.
	And I always love whenever I go on and I actually find a way to indirectly, you know, to criticize the Russian regime so that nobody can accuse me of being out there being an apologist.
	Because, like, you don't need to work hard to criticize every government across the world.
	And there's no reason why I would think, you know, the Putin government is any less unethical than, say, all governments at large.
	They might be right on certain issues and wrong on others, but a government is a government.
	Not that it's anybody who's going to care, but they have a new family, Lauren and Liam.
	It's an understatement.
	Lauren has been terminated from The Blaze?
	Yeah. What the fuck is going on?
	Okay, I don't know.
	Maybe they have good reasons.
	I don't know.
	YouTube channel shut down.
	Defunct as in...
	I mean...
	Everyone's gone.
	Basically, there's nothing left to tenant at this point in any event.
	No. I mean, other than, you know, X, because X isn't going to, from what I'm aware of, Elon Musk isn't going to cater and be like, oh, we're actually shutting this down because there was alleged Russian ties in this DOJ document that was just dropped.
	But it's crazy to me that, you know, yesterday I literally was sitting there and I was like, oh, I need to go and download the last year of breaking news coverage and videos that I've provided exclusively to Tenant.
	And then I type in a YouTube page and it's gone.
	And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
	And then I see the news story come out.
	It's like, oh, YouTube has terminated Tenant Media.
	YouTube has also terminated Lauren Chen.
	And it's like, how can a company terminate these private accounts based on an indictment where no evidence has really even been brought forth yet?
	So that in itself is crazy to me.
	They're literally deleting a year's worth of existence in Lauren Chen's personal channel, which has been up for years, that over 500,000 subscribers.
	And it's like, how can you do that?
	And then there's people defending it as well.
	It's criminal.
	I just want to see if RT is...
	RT, I do not believe, is still on.
	No, they've been booted from what I'm aware of.
	That's what I think the issue is.
	They're going to say, oh, if it's a de facto RT apparatus, then it's bypassing or circumventing the ban.
	I got in trouble once because I posted an interview.
	An interview I did.
	No, it was a segment I hosted.
	It was either a segment I hosted or an interview I did with Alex Jones on Infowars, and I posted it to my second channel, and they took it down.
	And they didn't even know why they took it down.
	I had to sort of piece it together.
	Oh, they think this circumvents the Infowars ban on YouTube.
	Because I'm posting my interview there.
	It's crazy.
	I wanted to bring this one up.
	This is the one.
	Let me see.
	I just want to make sure that I'm not showing my DMs here.
	There was one tweet of an allegation.
	I guess this paragraph...
	Oh, I think nobody can...
	Here. This one.
	This is where people lose their ability to read critically, where it says, the two defendants, founder one and founder two, who we presume is Liam and Lauren, also work together to deceive.
	The word deceive is a judgment.
	It's not a fact.
	So they worked to deceive two U.S. online commentators who had the big ones, whatever.
	Okay, fine.
	Where does it say?
	I'm skipping and I can't get to the end of the sentence.
	Sorry, whatever.
	Founder 1, Founder 2 worked together to mask U.S. Company 1's true source of funding, I.E.R.T.
	I don't even think the indictment made that clear.
	They say it seems to be and the Gregorian doesn't actually exist, so it came from these two who...
	Are either past RT or current RT by falsely portraying to the commentators that there was a private investigator, Edward Gregorian.
	Had you ever heard the name Edward Gregorian before?
	Yeah, I have.
	Yeah, I've heard Gregorian's name multiple times when talking to them about who we're funded by.
	And they would mention Gregorian.
	They would mention, you know, two other donors from Europe.
	And it was normal.
	I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh, can you tell me more about this Edward Gregorian guy?
	They got a landing page anyhow, but it was normal.
	And when you read that allegation, people have to not just think critically, but read critically.
	The term deceive imputes intent, and it's not a matter of fact.
	They say that they intended to deceive and hide the true source, which would imply that they knew the true source.
	Now, maybe you're going to argue that they ought to have, but to say that they were deceiving the commentators by hiding the true source, who was not Edward Gregorian because he didn't actually exist, implies that they knew that.
	Did anything you ever saw at any point indicate that they knew Gregorian was a shell human?
	No. No, I mean, I thought he was legit, and he may still be legit.
	We don't know yet.
	That's the thing.
	Is, you know, all the signs, at least behind the scenes, that I know that I can't speak about, like, I personally think Edgar Gurin is a real guy.
	I really do.
	And I think this whole, you know, they created this persona, it might be just fake.
	And, you know, there is a chance that, yeah, maybe they did do this, and if so, then I can see why commentators would be mad that, you know, they were misled.
	But I know...
	Multiple commentators, and I'm going to say they hired private investigators before they signed.
	And they looked into these people and they didn't find any discrepancies that made them not willing to sign.
	So it seems weird to me that that's the whole narrative is that this guy didn't exist.
	And what happens to this DOJ indictment if the guy actually does exist?
	That's what I want to know.
	So if this whole thing is based on him non-existing and then he turns out to actually be a real human being, where does this indictment go?
	And like I said, there's still the possibility, you never know that he might not exist, that maybe he was made up and it was, you know, a shell for two RT employees.
	But I kind of lean more towards the side of, yeah, maybe this dude does exist.
	You know, I don't trust the DOJ.
	It's kind of in my blood not to trust the DOJ at this point.
	I've never had anything weird happen to me in this company.
	There's never been any discrepancies.
	I was never ordered to cover anything.
	So it doesn't make sense that this would be, you know, this huge operation that they're directing people to be sympathetic towards Russia's views or how Russia wants America to be.
	If anything, you know, if it was this case, then we would, one, be directed, and two, if we're not being directed, then maybe our views just align with some of what Russia wants.
	And everyone's America first on the panel.
	I don't even believe in foreign aid.
	I hate war.
	I don't believe in foreign aid.
	I'm not pro-Russia.
	So how are you going to use a guy like me when you're engaged in a war with Ukraine that despises foreign aid to shill your propaganda?
	It doesn't make any sense to me.
	Can I read a few of these super chats and rumble rants which have come up?
	Looks to me like Russia and the CIA set up a trap in order to push this Putin-MAGA alliance.
	Okay, sorry, I got that one before.
	There is no reason for America to take an inimical stance to Russia.
	It was a catastrophic mistake for us to drive the bear into arms of the dragon.
	It might put an end to civilization.
	No kidding.
	J.R. Williams says, Viva, can you ask him, was it ever determined who the suit and tie guy that stood over Ashley Babbitt's body?
	That was a Sergeant Arms employee.
	His identity is better at least, yeah.
	Okay. I'm late to the party, catching up a 2X.
	Did I just hear you say that Tyler's beard is the most beautiful you've ever seen?
	Can you hear me weeping?
	And then we've got...
	Yeah, Pasha Moyer's got...
	He's got a good beard also.
	It's fine for Hunter to get $3.4 million from the wife of the mayor of Moscow, which I think is in Russia.
	I'll get to some of the other ones afterwards.
	If I may, I'm going to go to the locals community and see if we've got questions here.
	Someone said you look like...
	Dred Roberts says you look like Matt Hamill.
	Oh, Matt Hamill was the fighter.
	No, you're right.
	Matt Hamill was the fighter that Jon Jones got DQ'd for elbowing in the face with downward elbows.
	Then we got Viva Freight from Mr. Mike.
	Mr. Mike, which says while Facebook first designated the Azov Battalion as a dangerous organization in 2016, pages linked to the group continued to spread propaganda and advertise merchandise on the platform in 2020.
	And its youth wing maintained a dozen pages on Facebook, Time Magazine.
	Then we've got Bible Scribe says, Kamala Harris was indicted in San Francisco in 2019 for obstruction of justice covering up a real estate scandal of Lawrence Pelosi, who is Nancy's nephew and Gavin Newsom's first cousin, who got exclusive contracts to build on all closed Navy bases.
	Children died.
	This is how you put Nancy Pelosi in prison.
	Didn't the indictment say no editorial control then try to imply control, says Dred Rollin.
	Yeah, put it early on.
	But then it said basically the way that they were interfering was just...
	Just to show broad, just to show broad discord.
	And, um, that's it.
	Ganthet five bucks says, need to make the narrative fit.
	This is an FBI plot paid for by the Harris campaign calling it now.
	Just like with the steel dossier, this is another page of the same tactic done against Trump in 2016.
	That would fit because I think Kamala Harris is not much different than Hillary Clinton.
	Well, I think that, you know...
	In my opinion, you know, like I said, I don't trust the DOJ.
	And if this all turns out to be true, then okay, it's true.
	You know, there's no denying it.
	Let me pause it there.
	It seems like they were in it from the beginning.
	Like, how did they get the FISA monitoring?
	How did they get our private chats?
	It seemed like they knew from the beginning and they let it carry out until election season.
	And then boom, tenant media is now the early October surprise.
	And we're like, oh.
	Okay. Well, I wanted to stop you at the beginning.
	Let's assume it's true.
	Everything except for the intent to deceive.
	Let's just say it's true.
	The company took Russian money.
	If Lauren knew and was actively concealing it, that's a whole different assuming it's true.
	I'm not going to assume that.
	Just assume you took money from RT at worst.
	Okay. I don't believe that's a FARA violation under any interpretation that's reasonable of that law.
	None of you guys are lobbying, acting as agents to anybody.
	And I don't know, can you be an unwitting FARA violator?
	The two defendants are the ones violating FARA, and everybody else, okay.
	So the two defendants were violating FARA by trying to act as agents by not controlling editorial content.
	That makes no sense.
	So at worst...
	You took money from someone who might happen to be Russian.
	It's crazy to me because it's like, you know, I always circle back to this in this discourse because it's like, on the record, media companies in the US, even conservative media companies, take money from multiple foreign countries, China, Qatar, Israel, so many different foreign countries, but you never see these DOJ indictments rolling out against them for some reason.
	And now all of a sudden, you know, we allegedly took...
	Or I can't say we, but, you know, Lauren Leem allegedly took Russian money and disseminated it against the hosts and the reporters, and it's like, okay, but now you're in violation of FARA.
	And, you know, that whole FARA Act is insane because it's, you know, exclusively, you know, almost targeted towards certain people, and then certain countries don't have to register as foreign agents.
	And it's like, what are we doing here?
	Let's apply it all the way across the border if we're actually going to do this.
	It's an unconstitutional law, and up until now...
	I'd only been used exceedingly rarely over its, whatever, 80-year lifespan.
	And now all of a sudden it's like the go-to for criminal harassment.
	Robin Sage says, I'm no special pleader for Lauren Chen.
	She's got some sort of grudge with Trump.
	I know what her grudge with Trump is.
	And some serious issues with the Jews.
	I thought I said the job.
	But I noticed they are attacking people who have sway with young people.
	For sure.
	I mean, whether or not Lauren was the main target, it's arguable that the...
	Main target through deflection was Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Tucker Carlson, Lauren Southern.
	I mean, I don't think she has the same social influence and not to be mean or anything.
	I think it's just to tarnish those who are carrying a big voice right now.
	You see the big three mentioned in the indictments and throughout all social media, all the news stories, you see Rubin, which he was released from the source early.
	So he wasn't really even involved that much.
	He wasn't on the source for, I think, two, three months maybe.
	And then Benny Johnson...
	And Tim Pool.
	Those are the big three that you see in all the media articles.
	And then, you know, Matt Christensen, me, and Lauren Southern, we're just kind of as, like, the background.
	You know, we made it to some of the graphics of us, you know, in front of the Russian flag and things like that, which the memes have been hilarious in my comments.
	You know, I'm wearing communist hats and stuff.
	And it's like, keep them coming.
	This is hilarious.
	And I made a tweet fully in Russian.
	And I was like, oh, this is going to be funny.
	You know, just saying and telling people, hey, why don't you wait until evidence comes out?
	Like, I believe I'm innocent until I'm proven guilty.
	And everyone's like, nah.
	No, we're just, we know for a fact that this is all 100% real.
	It's amazing.
	In our locals, Robin Sage said, did Viva just seriously say, I need to see how close Tennessee is to Montana on a map?
	You're from Canada, not from Mogadishu.
	I know Montana borders Canada.
	Tennessee is somewhere down there.
	I just have to see how many states are in between.
	A lot.
	It's a lot.
	I just looked at a map.
	Denise Antu says, Russia, Russia, Russia, they can't even come up with new material for gaslighting for eight years.
	Oh, Quarter Native says, Larger X accounts are reporting the lie that Tim has been indicted.
	Holy shit.
	Well, we saw the same thing with Chris Pawlewski and Andrew Torba.
	Floating around yesterday, all these fake indictment papers.
	And I got the notification.
	I was like, is this real?
	Are they literally about to round us all up and throw us all in prison right now?
	Because that's what it seemed like.
	That's what Trump is going to do if he ever gets elected.
	All that I know is I'm sure that they are following me.
	I've never been contacted.
	But the other thing is people say she has to know exactly where she's taking the money from.
	There's a certain risk.
	You can do a mild due diligence.
	There's a risk of growing and trying to grow too fast.
	And there's a certain simplicity that comes with Streaming from a plug-in mic and a plug-in cam in my home.
	But then you don't reach certain levels and those are trade-offs that you make.
	But there's a risk that comes with this.
	And this is the type of trauma that makes me never want to deal with anyone other than...
	Well, it's awful.
	Coming from a young dude in the industry, I was literally labeled a terrorist at the age of 21 years old.
	And for two years, and then now, you know, I finally landed a fantastic company, one that I can say whatever I want, report on whatever I want, with people that I enjoy, that I have good rapport with the other hosts and the owners, and then all of a sudden the DOJ is like, actually.
	It's like, what is going on?
	I have had nothing but a life full in this industry dealing with the DOJ and the weaponization of the DOJ, which we don't know yet that this is weaponization against Tenet, but it sure as hell was weaponization against me early on as a reporter.
	And now all of a sudden, you know, I landed a source finally.
	I, you know, picked myself up on my bootstraps after working hard for years, and then the DOJ comes in and they're like, we're going to shut your source down.
	Unreal. Going back to something you said earlier about independent journalists survive by licensing their content.
	How do you license it?
	Do you go through a news flare or a story full?
	I wouldn't recommend a story full if any reporters are watching this.
	They're pretty awful when it comes to licensing content for reporters.
	Just the payout isn't that great.
	But usually what happens is you post it on social media, it goes viral, it starts a little mini news cycle amongst conservative media, liberal media, just any circle.
	And then you'll have DMs from the licensing coordinator from CNN, NBC.
	It just depends on what news source is interested in the coverage you're providing.
	And then you basically strike an agreement and say, yes, you can license my full clip without Watermark or with Watermark for X amount of dollars.
	And then if they agree to it, they now own the rights to basic, not to your footage, but to show it on their platform.
	And it's a very simple process.
	You get paid two weeks later, and that's basically how you survive.
	You negotiate on your own.
	With those who reach out to you, you don't reach out to others.
	I'm going to share my own promo link on Newsflare.
	You don't use Newsflare?
	I know.
	Now, I'm not paid by Newsflare, except when they sell my videos, but very rarely is it political stuff.
	It's mostly like nature, funny, viral videos.
	But you might want to think about trying out Newsflare, because I'm going to share a link in the chat here.
	This is my referral link, because I just got an email yesterday.
	I got an email yesterday.
	It said, Viva, you're eligible for a referral link, but I had one in the past.
	What I do is, if I get something that I think would go viral, instead of waiting for it to go viral by that time, people have already ripped it off, I just upload it directly to Newsflare.
	I've got an account.
	And then they shop it around to their clients and say, BBC licenses it.
	You get something there.
	They take 40%, and then you get paid within 24 hours of a sale.
	Dude, I would try Newsflare.
	At least try it for a few videos.
	You don't have to do your whole library.
	I'm hoping and praying.
	Lots of prayers going on in this house recently.
	After the indictment that, you know, we don't have to stay independent long.
	It's not a life I want to live.
	I will do it if I have to.
	I'll even work a side job while I work if I have to.
	But, you know, it's not a fantastic life to live, but I've never done this kind of work for the money.
	If I did this kind of work for the money, I'd be a show host.
	I would do something else.
	This is just strictly a passion project of me wanting to tell the truth, and it has been since I started and because I'm interested in it.
	But my goal is to hopefully get re-signed.
	With, you know, a separate team, a different organization as soon as possible, if all works out.
	It's very discouraging that the Blaze would cut her so quickly because, you know, they brought on Steve Baker despite his Jan 6 stuff.
	And you don't have any knowledge, other details in what's in the media about why Blaze did it?
	No, I'm not sure, but I would imagine Blaze knew a little bit more than, you know, the rest of us knew.
	There was probably a reason for them releasing her.
	I imagine they probably knew some behind-the-scenes things or something along those lines.
	You know, I know a lot of people at the Blaze, a lot of great people at the Blaze, and it seems like there was probably some foreknowledge or, you know, some knowledge of what was going on before the indictment was actually released.
	And once the indictment was released...
	They just said, okay, we got to clean our hands from this.
	And it was a huge national news story.
	And, you know, the Blaze, it's a news company.
	You might as well seize the opportunity from, you know, the news I view to generate an even larger news cycle.
	So I think they probably did know something prior that kind of led to the release of LARM.
	I'm going to only bet against it because the alternative theory is also just as plausible.
	It's just a knee-jerk reaction.
	And I think they might have massively messed up, because unless they have a damn good reason, either they wanted to let go of Lauren for another reason and they used this as a pretext, but if they don't have info that's not public that could justify this decision, by them doing this, it creates that impression of culpability, and I think it's a knee-jerk reaction and wildly unfair, and they had also better...
	At least affirm that they had good reason to do this and not just catering to the mob so they can maintain their good standing among the media.
	Yeah, I hope there was some reason beforehand.
	You never know.
	I mean, we're outside guys at the company.
	I mean, both realities are plausible, in my opinion.
	But just the idea that Lauren Chen's YouTube was deleted, she's going through litigation right now, and then she's released from the blaze, and then now her whole living is literally deleted by YouTube.
	It's insane to me.
	That's literally just the deplatforming and basically de-lifing of somebody who has two children.
	It's crazy to me that anybody is justifying the fact that they were on the YouTube page.
	Two children under four, under five.
	She's got two young babies.
	I mean, I remember she was...
	I met her since the first kid.
	They did it with Alex Jones.
	I mean, it's coordinated.
	They probably had it all lined up and like, boom, now we got it.
	Viva, you're using the money mart of video.
	Selling. Well, dude, I'm going to tell you, Newsflare has been very good to me.
	Before I even had a meaningful YouTube channel, Newsflare, when I licensed that squirrel video through Newsflare, man, I made like 2,000 bucks in two weeks.
	I bought a drone with it, licensed those videos, rolling over that investment.
	Taylor, if you don't mind, I'm going to stay live and go over to my locals community afterwards.
	I need to thank you immensely.
	You said you have a wife?
	Do you have any kids?
	No kids yet.
	Hopefully one on the way.
	We're hoping to have a kid as soon as possible.
	Practice makes perfect.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I've got to wait to get employed again.
	I've got to provide for my family.
	That's been my biggest worry with all of this.
	I had a job a few days ago.
	I literally was supposed to fly out to Kensington, Philly to film a documentary this morning.
	I was supposed to be out there for four days to film my second documentary for Tenet.
	The paychecks were coming in.
	Everything was smooth.
	The next thing I know, I'm like, oh.
	I am unemployed.
	No severance, no nothing.
	I don't know what's left in the bank account.
	Lauren hasn't been indicted.
	Tenet, the company, wasn't charged.
	Robert Barnes has a very interesting theory.
	We weren't even named in the indictment.
	They did a great job concealing the names.
	They did a deliberate...
	They don't need to unmask when they conceal that badly.
	Just put it that way.
	Even CBS did the same thing afterwards.
	They ran a piece on...
	They didn't say it was Tenet Media, but they put a picture of...
	Tim Pool with his face blurred with TimCast in the background.
	They put a picture of me with a Tenet Media mic and blurred my face.
	And then they did the same thing with Matt Christensen.
	It's like, okay, come on, guys.
	It's on purpose.
	That's not an accident.
	That's not grotesque.
	That's grotesque incompetence a la the model.
	I'll definitely be framing.
	The picture of me with my face blurred and then the picture of all the hosts in front of the Russian flag that all these news sources are using because it's just, it's hilarious the way that they're kind of directing the coverage of all this.
	Apparently breaking news.
	I'm going to see if this is true.
	Trump sentencing just got postponed.
	No, but now there's going to be, we're going to do something hopefully useful and hopefully productive out of this from your perspective.
	First of all, you know, the world should know who you are.
	You're amazing.
	Amazing and...
	This is what the world of journalism needs, not to be demonized and deemed domestic terrorists.
	How can people support you?
	I know you put out the tweet yesterday, which was what really got me.
	How can people help you immediately?
	And where can people find you?
	Everyone can find me.
	All the breaking news stuff always lands on my Twitter first.
	It's at TaylorUSA, and it's T-A-Y-L-E-R-U-S-A, spelled a little bit funky.
	I don't know why my mom did that to me, but she did me dirty.
	And then, you know, my donation links are just in that Linktree bio.
	There's a Venmo and a PayPal, but I never expect any money from anybody.
	You know, we all land on hard times.
	If anyone wants to send anything, it would be greatly appreciated to my family and I and to kind of continue the coverage that I've been doing independently.
	But I'm really hoping...
	Hoping that soon I can get picked up by a different source and continue the work that I'm passionate about.
	I'm going to the tweet now.
	I'm going to put all of these in the pinned comment afterwards.
	The support links, the Venmo or the...
	Where do I find that?
	Just in my bio, the link tree.
	You just click that and it says support my journalism.
	That's three links now.
	I'll simplify that in the pinned comment.
	I'll give everybody this so they can find it immediately.
	This would be like a digital resume that has been posted to the world now so everybody can know that you are involuntarily back on the market.
	Yeah, well, hey, I got a documentary that's unedited.
	I just need someone to edit it.
	You can have it.
	Whatever source you want to say, you can have it.
	What was her name in the indictment?
	Kushra? Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	Get Gregorian.
	Gregorian, in addition to being a fine editor, he's a master editor.
	Taylor, thank you so much for coming on.
	I'm going to go talk a little bit more after this, but I'll message you afterwards.
	This was fantastic, and let's do this again and keep in touch and keep on fighting the good fight.
	You're young.
	My goodness, this is going to be a great experience in hindsight.
	For the time being, you've got to live through it.
	Yes, sir.
	Thanks for having me, brother.
	My pleasure.
	I'll talk to you soon.
	Bye-bye.
	That's amazing.
	He's a good guy.
	Okay. We're not going to go much longer here, but what we might do...
	Do we talk about the...
	Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
	Let me just see.
	How many are we at on YouTube?
	A thousand on YouTube?
	Everybody, come on over to Rumble.
	We're going to do the last part here on Rumble.
	And the link to Rumble is in the pinned comment.
	But there's the link to Rumble.
	And I'm going to give everybody the link to vivabarneslaw.locals.com, which is our platform.
	I was going to make a joke.
	If there's Russians in our Viva Barnes law, don't give money.
	I will get raided by FBI.
	It's amazing.
	You have people online.
	Did I just say...
	To rumble, comrades!
	Hold on, let's get that over here.
	We are going to just Google that news.
	I think I said I'm doing something at 3 o'clock, but I don't know if that's on now.
	Oh, I got a P. Let me see here.
	Okay. Come to rumble.
	We're going to end this on YouTube, and we're going to have the after party there.
	Okay, removing from YouTube.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Sunday Night Show.
	Hold on.
	Before we go, how do I always forget to show the wonderful merch that is now more prescient than ever?
	Viva Frye.
	And we've got the map.
	I got the map of America.
	There's a lot of states between Montana and Tennessee.
	Tennessee really is middle.
	Montana's really middle north.
	And that's it.
	I'm not doing Red Bulls anymore, people.
	I caved the other day, and I had a Red Bull, and I immediately...
	I feel bad, but it was in the fridge.
	I'm like, well, I got to drink it sometime, and then I drink it, and I was like, oh, now I need to get another Red Bull back up in the fridge when I'm out of iced coffee.
	Am I sharing the link here?
	I am.
	Okay, here we go.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	What did I just do?
	Yes, there you go.
	Get your fighter truck...
	Fight trucker hat.
	Oh, I love this.
	I mean, I don't ever want to forget that moment.
	Sunday. Not Sunday.
	Saturday, July 13. Give or take 6 o'clock.
	I'm jogging somewhere in Michigan.
	Near Kalamazoo?
	I want to say near Erie.
	And I get back from my jog and my wife's like, did you hear what happened?
	I was like, obviously I didn't.
	I was listening to Nuclear Holocaust on a podcast with Rogan.
	And then she's like, yeah, well, this is what happened.
	Alright, we're ending on YouTube.
	Bye-bye, YouTube.
	Come on over.
	Okay. Now, there were a bunch of rumble rants that I didn't get to, so let's get to these.
	Russian interference is Vladimir Putin.
	Police speech says, if Skamala wins, I ain't moving to the USA.
	Crash Bandit says, the Dems keep going after people as foreign agents and look the other way on Hunter's IRS case, which basically showed he was acting as a foreign agent for China, Ukraine, and maybe Mexico.
	Fly speech.
	Flea speech says, Taylor, glad there's no height numbers behind you.
	Glad there's no height numbers behind you.
	Go, Ticats.
	Hold on.
	How tall is Taylor?
	Bet you he's taller than me.
	I'm not going to find that in Taylor Hansen Heights.
	He's six feet tall, it looks like.
	Is this the same Taylor Hansen?
	Fox News.
	Yeah, that's it.
	He's six feet tall.
	Good for him.
	Okay, hold on.
	The whole world is taller than me.
	At least half the world is taller than me, including children.
	Can I get my cursor to come back on, please?
	Rumble. Viva, I'm an editor based out of Miami.
	Would love to help you out with your hand.
	Tony, I'm going to screen grab it.
	My problem is me.
	Not that I'm demanding like I'm that Will Ferrell evil boss.
	What was his name?
	Tarkmanian? I just, I'm OCD, and I know that my issues cannot be other people's issues, and it makes it very difficult for me to feel good about, like, I noticed a little, I noticed, as I screen grabbed a Tony, let me think about it.
	Lauren Chen did nothing wrong, says, Russian here, and David, you can use this dollar to give us any information you think is pertinent for this September 6th, 2024.
	Thank you.
	Oh, shit, it was the, today was the sentencing!
	I forgot.
	I'm getting...
	Oh, okay.
	Well, now it makes sense why we've got news on the sentence thing.
	Pudge, do you not see that I'm doing a live stream right now?
	I'm doing a stream.
	Hold on.
	Oh, God.
	Let's move there.
	Get up.
	Go, go, go.
	Go, go, go, go, go, go.
	Oh, boy.
	I think Rumble just got the portion of the stream that's usually reserved for locals when I get up and see that Pudge has pooped in her bed.
	And it's a big one.
	And Winston was sitting right next to it, sleeping away.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let's just finish these up here.
	Of course, Russia tries to interfere.
	We, U.S., also interfere in foreign elections.
	It's been happening for years to little effect.
	Oh, and they've been effective elsewhere.
	Why is no one talking about the two Russians?
	Declined an interview.
	I know them, they good, bad, shady.
	They should be front and center.
	We'll see who these two people are.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Height numbers only because of his background.
	Horizontal lines.
	Mugshot. Ah, I see.
	Okay. Okay, so hold on one second.
	Let's get this out here.
	Trump sentencing was postponed?
	What is my go-to?
	Judge Marchand postpones Trump sentencing until after the presidential election.
	People! So I was kind of right.
	Who was the idiot that said he was going to jail?
	McCarthy! Sorry, I'm sorry.
	McCarthy! Let me go back to that.
	I hope I bookmarked that tweet.
	Everybody, go find the tweet where I told McCarthy that that's a bad prediction.
	McCarthy said he's going to jail.
	Oh boy, what have I done?
	Hold on.
	I hate Fox News.
	Where am I going to get this from?
	Hold on.
	Trump sentencing.
	Let's just go to get some news here.
	Which one do I want to take?
	South China Morning Post.
	Let's go with that.
	While we're talking about communism, the news of the day I'm going to take from South China Morning Post.
	South China Morning Post wants to show notifications.
	Block. Oh, crap.
	Now everyone's just saw my Gmail address.
	My Gmail address is full of spam.
	Here. Trump judge delays Trump hush money sentencing until after U.S. election.
	Judge Juan Marchand says he wants to avoid the unwarranted perception of a political motive.
	What a fucking scoundrel!
	You know what he wants to do?
	He needs to dismiss the frickin' vacate the judgment and have a new trial after they adjudicate on what he can be tried for.
	You know why he wants to avoid a perception of a political move?
	By doing a political move.
	So now they can still call him a convicted felon throughout November 2024.
	What a scum-sucking corrupt POS.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't want to accept any of your stuff here.
	A New York judge on Friday, the latest Sunday and the last November, writing that he wants to avoid the unwarranted perception of a political motive.
	Trump threw it.
	Why did he have to wait until today?
	Trump, I want to get a copy of that judgment, or that order.
	He's previously been scheduled to be sentenced on September 18. Oh, so this was early.
	Okay. His lawyers in August asked Judge Juan Marchant to push back to sentencing until after the vote, citing naked election interference objectives.
	Naked. Don't get Judge Engeron into this.
	Merchant said Friday he now planned to sentence Trump on November 26, unless the case is dismissed before then.
	It will be dismissed before then, but they get to run with the convicted felon until then.
	This not political move is a naked political move.
	A New York nipple Judge Engeron.
	I'm giving all my jokes that I'm going to do in a vlog.
	When I get done with this, I'm going to go straight to the car and do a vlog.
	The imposition of a sentence will be adjourned to avoid any appearance, however unwarranted.
	Bullshit! I bet the proceedings have been affected by or seeks to affect the presidential election.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	The court is fair and impartial, apolitical institution.
	When you have to say that you are fair, impartial, and apolitical, it's because you're not.
	The campaign spokesman said, Stephen Chung said after the ruling, the case should be dismissed altogether.
	He said after the ruling that the case should be dismissed altogether.
	There should be no sentencing in the Manhattan DA's interference witch hunt.
	I agree.
	Okay, fine.
	So that's it.
	That's the news.
	Fantastic. Phenomenal.
	And interesting.
	What have I done here?
	Where's my stream?
	I want to go to...
	I'm going to rumble because I want to make sure that I'm getting the chat here.
	My content.
	My stream.
	Very nice.
	We're going to go over to locals right now because I think we're going to actually have to end this soon-ish because I think I'm going to have something later today.
	Yeah. But let me just go in.
	We're still in stream.
	Oh, that's why, because I don't get the super chats, the rumble rants, unless I'm in.
	I think I might have missed a few of them.
	51 former intelligence officials say Lauren Romy Chen is guilty, says Engine.
	Engine. Okay.
	What we're going to do now is we're going to end this on Rumble and on Twitter, and we're going to go over for our locals after party.
	But to be fair for everybody, I'm going to go to the tips in locals.
	And see, Sammy says, Viva, talking about the younger creator crowd, definitely check Nick Shirley's content on YouTube.
	He's fluent in Spanish and has been doing a ton of coverage on the illegal crisis in big cities and on both sides of the southern border.
	Great kid.
	Ursula G says, can you ask Taylor about his involvement with the Capitol riot?
	I think I got into enough of that there.
	Ursula G, please watch this and it all makes sense now.
	Something on Bitch Shoot, which I look at that and all I see immediately is Bitch UTE.
	Fair use.
	Everything wrong with the Capitol shooting in 20 minutes or less.
	I will watch that afterwards.
	Absolutely. And then we got Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Okay, so here's what we're going to do.
	Thank you all for being here.
	I'm going to do a car blog today, definitively on this bullshit ruling, but I'm going to get the copy of the ruling before I do it.
	I got everything else there.
	I'm going to end on YouTube and Twitter.
	No, not on Twitter.
	On Twitter and Rumble, sorry.
	And we're going to go over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Let me give you all.
	That link.
	So you can come.
	Link. Boom.
	Oh, and I was supposed to add NeuroDivergent as my moderator on Rumble, which I shall do.
	All right.
	Come on over.
	We're going to end on Rumble, end on Twitter, and we're going to have our after party on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	If you're not coming Sunday night, 6 o'clock, obviously going to be one hell of a banger episode.
	And that's it.
	Locals. Here it comes.
	Do I?
	Do I hear a kid screaming out of unhappiness or happiness?

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