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Aug. 20, 2024 - Viva & Barnes
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Homeschool your Kids? Live with Sam Sorbo! And DNC Highlights! Viva Frei Live!
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I hope you all know who Sam Sorbo is.
If you don't know who she is, you're going to know after this, I ran into Sam and Kevin Sorbo at a PragerU event up at the Breakers, and we started talking about life, homeschooling, and I've got more questions than I might have.
My wife and I might be thinking about something.
My wife is popping in on the stream as well, so she's going to come in because she has been getting into this.
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I met Sam.
We started talking.
She made a lot of sense.
And I'm like...
I like your newsletter.
Where can I subscribe?
And here we are now.
Sam is going to come on and talk to us.
If you don't know...
I'll let Sam describe herself.
She speaks five languages.
I don't know which five languages.
I was trying to look that up.
But I need to know which.
And I need to know...
How do you learn five languages?
I'm French, English.
I've forgotten a lot of Hebrew.
But once upon a time, French and Hebrew were on the same five.
And bioengine...
You're going to see.
Okay, Sam, I'm bringing you in.
You ready?
Three, two, one.
How goes the battle?
It's like magic, and then I appear.
Technology, for all of its potential risks, is an amazing thing.
Yes. This is amazing.
So we met at the Breakers for the first time.
I think I've been following Kevin online for a little while now.
Kevin, we say the red pill, or he's exited the Matrix.
But we met at that Breakers event, and you started explaining what you're doing in life, and it's fascinating, and it's amazing.
For those who don't know who you are, 30,000 foot overview.
Which languages do you speak and how did you learn five languages?
I was an exchange student to Sweden in my senior year of high school.
So Swedish is my second language.
And I was really good at learning language.
I learned it very quickly and very well.
And so then I moved on to French and then German and Italian.
And I always say, with varying degrees of fluency, or can you maintain conversations in all five of these languages?
I can maintain conversations.
German and Italian, being the most recent two, actually went first.
So if I don't, keep it up.
But people are typically a little bit shocked.
Because I'm a mimic, I think.
And so, anyway.
It's just fun.
It's fun for me.
I speak a smattering of Tagalog, a little bit of Russian, a little bit of Hebrew.
I just, I really love language.
I love words.
I wrote a book about words right here, Words for Warriors.
Pick up your copy.
I love words because words are truth.
Now, I mean, I start typically with childhood and I don't want to spend too much time on childhood because I mean, but we need to know How it is that you end up where you are in life now.
I want to talk a little bit about the sordid life that was or is Hollywood and how you exit that and discover a light at the end of the tunnel.
But if we can start from the beginning.
Born and raised in America?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm American.
I'm American.
Raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Born on the West Coast.
Raised East Coast.
So I have kind of East Coast sense of it.
My husband accuses me of being too New York.
I lived for a while in New York, picked up some of that sort of brash, upfront, truth-telling New Yorker vibe, I guess.
And yeah, my growing up is not sort of what you would imagine would turn out the likes of me.
I was a good student.
I hated school.
And, you know, raised as an atheist Jew, I'm a believing Christian.
So, yeah, it's not sort of what you would expect.
Hold on.
I did not know this.
And now I've got more questions.
Born Jewish?
Yes. Okay.
Well, this is...
Oh, my goodness.
There's so many things that are actually amazing about these parallels.
So, how many siblings?
What did your parents do?
I had three older sisters, four older sisters at one point, because one of them was a stepsister, and then she left.
My mother remarried several times.
Yeah, this is not the interesting part.
How you come to religion or come to faith is of particular interest to me, given some of the questions I've been asking myself recently.
Okay, so when did you meet Kevin and what was that like and how did you get into, I won't call it an anti-school movement, but how did you get into homeschooling faith and what you think it takes now to solve the problems of society?
So I met Kevin on Hercules.
I played a princess.
Life imitates art.
And I quit work when he had three strokes.
Shortly before we were set to get married.
So I walked away from my career at that point because I realized that really it's a binary choice.
You can pursue a career or you can pursue a marriage.
But especially when one of the people is very ill, it's a binary choice.
You can't have both.
You can't have it all.
That started me realizing you can't have it all.
And so eventually I chose family over career.
Initially, I chose family over career.
And then when I had a family, I chose family again.
And I pulled my kids out of school because surrender your children to other adults for the majority of their lifetime when they're growing up is ridiculous.
How many kids do you have?
Three. So I do need to ask this.
I won't delve too far into the past, but when do you come to...
I don't know if the expression has come to Christ, but when do you become religious?
I became religious shortly after I succeeded in life.
So I left college to pursue modeling and acting, and I made it big.
I did very, very well.
I was exceedingly successful.
And it occurred to me, I was done.
I grabbed the brass ring.
I did exactly what I was trained to do, make a lot of money.
And be successful in a career.
And so once I realized that I had done it, I was like, okay, so this is all that it's about?
This is it?
Like, I might as well just off myself if that's all there is.
But that's what I was raised to believe.
And so then I went on a search for meaning.
Like, there must be more to life than just grabbing a brass ring, just making a ton of money.
And I realized that there was a lot more to life because there is order in the universe.
And there must be an order maker.
Order does not happen by accident.
It does not happen randomly.
It's the antithesis of random.
Which is why it's so astonishing that we've allowed our school system to dictate that life happens by random accident when it's exactly the opposite of that.
So anyway, I went on a search and I discovered...
I discovered order in the universe.
I decided that the name for that order creator must be God.
Other people have other names, but whatever.
I just said, I give.
We'll just say it's God.
And then eventually I found myself in church.
Was there a specific, call it a moment of clarity, was there a specific moment that you remember where it clicked and it made sense?
Yeah, I started reading the Bible and I was praying.
Although not terribly, like, overtly, but I had sort of begun a bit of a dialogue, and I was reading the Bible, and then it just, one day, it was just like, oh, yeah, this makes perfect sense now.
Because initially, as a Jewish girl going to church, where I felt comfortable, I found a church that was great, and I was like, this church is great.
And every time they said Jesus, I was like, ah, they just mean God.
Like, whatever, they're just saying God.
You know, the triune God, okay, fine.
You know, I don't think he's triune because I'm Jewish, but that's okay.
And then just one day, it just was like, why am I fighting this?
You know, after reading the Bible, after reading the historical accounts.
And so, yeah, then I became fully fledged, so to speak.
That's amazing.
Okay. And then you give up the career.
Can I ask, like, the career, the world of modeling, actressing, or acting, I don't know if it's much different for men, but is it not just as vapid as many of us think, but as sordid as many of us now believe?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
Although, I was protected.
This is part of my epiphany, is I had a hedge of protection around me that I can't account for without getting spiritual.
I remember a photo shoot.
In the islands off the coast of Africa.
And the hairdresser said to me, don't drink the punch.
And I'm like, what?
He's like, don't drink the punch.
I know you don't want to do drugs.
We spike the punch with ecstasy.
We are getting the stylist high.
I'm like, you're getting the stylist high?
He's like, yeah, she's a stuck-up bitch.
But he knew that I didn't do...
Like, I don't know how he knew that I didn't do drugs, but he was like, I'm sure you don't want to drink the punch, so don't drink it.
Thankfully, because I didn't do drugs, I was raised to not do drugs.
And I will tell parents out there, a great way to keep your children from doing drugs is to tell them you know that they are too smart to do drugs.
Because it worked for me.
You appeal to their sense of ego.
And their sense of intelligence.
And you say, I just know you're too smart for that.
When you decide to give up a career, and I'm not putting it in quotes.
When you give up the career, what you've built your life to pursue, do you get the, not the blowback, but the judgmental stink eye from other women especially?
But maybe that's my own preconceived notion.
Do you get the stink eye?
So, so Kevin was lying in the intensive care unit.
We didn't have a very firm grasp of what he had just gone through in terms of the strokes or why.
But he was sort of out of danger at that point.
And I landed like the best job ever.
I landed a TV commercial for ice cream, which was my favorite thing at the time.
And it was an all expense paid trip, first class to New York City, three day shoot, lots of money.
It was a national network spot, which at the time meant, oh, $60,000 a year, if not more.
And this is, you know, almost three decades ago, right?
It's a lot of money.
And I asked him if he wanted me to turn it down, and he said yes.
And that's when I realized, oh, it's a choice.
Because I can go do the commercial, but he will be alone for three days in intensive care.
Feeling like he's feeling without any kind of support.
And I just immediately said, oh, okay.
So that's the compromise.
Because I knew that there was going to be a compromise.
You can't have it all.
There's too much.
You can't know it all.
There's too much to know.
You can't be everything.
There's too much to be.
And so I just realized in that moment, okay, that's the compromise.
I didn't have to compromise on looks.
Intelligence, financial well-being or whatever.
But I did have to compromise by walking away from my career.
And I called my agent and I said, I'm so sorry.
I can't do the job because I have to stay here.
And she said to me, you realize what you're giving up, right?
And she wasn't talking about this particular commercial.
She would not book me again.
She was done with me.
And she was a good friend.
She was an old friend of mine.
But she basically said, you're making your choice now.
You're going to make your bed and lie in it.
And then after that, yeah, there was attitude.
But I was sort of separated because we went off to the desert.
We hunkered down.
My days were consumed with just...
Trying to nurse him back to health.
And it took, well, it took three years.
So, but initially it was full-time.
Then eventually, gradually it became part-time.
But he could take a walk every morning and then he was a vegetable on the couch for the rest of the day.
And so that was, so me stepping away from my career was a very clean break.
There wasn't anything going on in the career.
And I was just...
Occupied with...
Healing. Cheerleading.
It is wild, because also, like, I think you've explained, but people don't appreciate, you're not just saying no to one gig, it's sort of like a momentum, or people now know you as the person who will choose family over career, and cannot be relied on to drop everything to go do a commercial or whatever.
Oh yeah, there's that.
But here's the thing.
We need to get back to prioritizing, and we are not taught to prioritize in school.
So forgive me, everything relates back to education.
In school, we're taught to make pros and cons lists.
If you've ever made a pros and cons list, you know that that's just chaos.
You're told, oh, this is going to work for you.
This is a great tool.
And then you sit there looking at your lists.
And you're going back and forth and back and forth and going, but this doesn't resolve anything because I just have two lists now and they're even.
They're even because you haven't prioritized.
If you pick your priority, that's your decision right there.
It makes it much simpler.
And so I just prioritized, I want to be married and I want children in my life.
And you mentioned, is it as vapid or as corrupt?
Yes, it is.
So I just walked away from that.
Yeah, I enjoyed working.
I loved working.
But I was walking away from 95% vapid corruption and 5% enjoying working.
And I went to struggling to create a family.
When Kevin had the stroke, did you have kids yet or not yet?
No, no.
We weren't married yet.
He almost tried to get out of it.
Out of the marriage?
Yeah. He was like, I don't know if you want to marry me.
Because he thought he was dying.
He was in a very bad way.
Well, I listened to an interview.
It was a presentation where he described what happened.
What was it?
Not a blood clot, but it caused multiple strokes.
Was it an aneurysm or a clot?
It was an aneurysm that was clotting.
And so three of the clots went up into his brain.
The rest of them went down into his arm.
So the inside of his left arm was completely occluded.
What does that mean?
No blood flow.
It was all clotted off.
It was blue.
His fingertips were blue and cold.
And then he had a chiropractor crack his neck, and that forced three of the clots that were forming up here in his shoulder.
To swim upstream, which was something that medical experts, experts, now we put experts in quotes, right?
Don't we?
I hope we do.
But all the medicals, all the medicine said clots don't swim upstream.
And we had a couple of doctors.
Most of the doctors didn't believe that it was the aneurysm, but we had a doctor who said, yeah, I do believe that the clots swam upstream and that's what, because otherwise it makes no sense.
You didn't, you didn't have three strokes plus you've got this aneurysm thing going on.
Who knows how they're, you know, connected.
Did the cracking of the neck was not a therapeutic to deal with the strokes?
That was what caused the strokes to go upstream?
It's funny.
I asked Dr. Drew about those videos.
You know when they wrap a towel around the person's neck and they got the hips in these things and they pull up and you hear the entire spine decompressing?
And Drew said that's extremely dangerous because it can cause that type of bleeding or stroke.
So you're nursing him back to health and I'm visualizing Fezzik out of The Princess Bride where, you know, giving...
Hold on one second.
Sorry about that.
Get up.
Come on.
Okay. Sorry.
The dog was locked out of the home studio.
Okay. The dog wants attention.
He wants out.
He wants in.
We need to put a doggy door on my studio door.
That would be good.
So you make it through this.
You end up getting married.
We'll fast forward a little bit because I know you want to talk about the school stuff and that's what I want to talk about too.
Fast forward, you make it through all of this.
You have this, I guess, I mean, not I guess, intensely personal bonding experience that lasts.
I mean, you're a savior of sorts.
You get married and you have kids.
Was it always a foregone conclusion that you're avoiding the school system or was that also something of an explorative transition?
We lived in Bel Air and we moved out to Thousand Oaks for the schools for my oldest son's first grade year.
And he went to first grade and he went to second grade in this cute little public school.
Really good, good public school, right?
Because we moved for the schools.
This was a good one.
And they weren't teaching him.
I was just really disappointed.
And I don't know what my expectations were, but it wasn't meeting my expectations.
And he was getting bored.
And there were a couple of other things they sent.
They sent work with me when we traveled, because if we do the work for the school, you know, if he does his homework and then we turn it back in, then they still can claim the government funding.
And so it's a money game, right?
And so, but the work that they sent for me to have him do was the busy work that they didn't do in class.
So he was saying to me, Mommy, the teacher tells us we don't have to do this.
And I'm like, well, she literally gave it to me for you to do.
And realizing, oh.
So she's just put me in the role of substitute teacher, like the hated teacher.
Like, I'm the bad teacher.
Thank you very much.
Now, I don't know that she did that on purpose.
I'm not impugning her character.
She seemed like a very nice gal.
But it was not successful.
And he was coming home with some attitude because, well, you've never met my son, but you will.
He's extraordinarily outgoing.
When he was in first grade, all the fifth graders knew his name.
He's a known entity.
And so he was coming home with this sort of attitude that kids can develop in school because it's age-based.
And so the older kids think that they're better than the younger kids because it's age-based.
And so he was coming home with attitude.
And I was just like, you know, this is just not being successful.
I just don't like so much of this.
And he's not getting the academics that I think he should have.
I started doing his homework with him every day because he wasn't performing to standard.
So I started sitting with him to do his homework every day.
And I started thinking, my gosh, I'm homeschooling at the end of the day when everybody's tired and cranky and hungry.
This is not good for me.
It's not good for him.
If I'm going to sit and do homework with him every day, why don't I do the stuff that I think is valuable?
That he might enjoy better because he's got more energy and he hasn't spent the whole day in school.
I think homework for children is child abuse, frankly.
There should be no reason.
Look, I have a gal come and clean my house.
She spends, you know, four hours, not eight hours, but let's say she spent eight hours cleaning my house because she works as a team.
She's got more than one person.
But anyway, they clean my house, right?
They don't leave me dishes in the sink.
They don't leave me homework.
If they left me homework, they'd be fired because I'd find somebody who wouldn't leave me homework.
So if your job is to teach my child academics, don't give him homework.
Teach him.
You've got him for eight flipping hours.
It's funny.
I mean, I have this discussion with my third kid who's the one that brought about all this discussion.
Like, I told him, like, they give you homework.
Imagine if I go work eight hours a day and as I'm heading out the door, the boss says, yeah, Dave, I'm going to need you to also do four more hours when you get home.
He's like, no.
This is the contract we have.
You had this revelation with your first kid, not your third.
No, my first.
What year is this in?
2008. Relatively recently, this is not my issue or stigma.
I'm from Montreal.
In a city, you don't know anybody who homeschools.
Everything I knew of...
You suffer from stereotypes, especially when you grow up watching movies, where you think, oh, homeschooling is a religious middle America thing.
It's weird.
You don't want to do it.
And then you realize that all of these stereotypes that you've been brought up learning are just actually the elite judging the middle.
So was the stigma there at this period of time as well, or had it sort of subsided a little bit?
I was living in an area where there was a very vibrant homeschool community, as vibrant as you could probably imagine.
In the United States and California, in any case, it was pretty vibrant.
And so I didn't hook in with them right away, but there were enough people homeschooling that I saw.
Like the whole gamut.
We had the hippies who were anarchists, who were homeschooling because the government's not going to take over my kid's mind kind of people, which is what homeschooling now sort of has morphed into, but also from a religious perspective as well, because the government schools are religious schools, and we're just waking up to that now, right?
Explain that, because I don't want people being confused.
Governments are religious in the sense that they've substituted the good religion for the bad religion of government.
Yeah, they demand that you worship government.
It's a religion.
Here's the thing.
You can't get through life without having a religion.
A religion is your worldview.
You have a view of the world.
Everybody has a view of the world, unless you're like...
You have a worldview.
That is your religion.
Now, it may entail the belief in some spirit power, and it may not, but that's your religion.
Atheism and agnosticism are religions.
In fact, Wikipedia says they're the fastest-growing religion.
Irreligion is the fastest-growing religion.
Just because you don't want to call it religion doesn't mean it's not a religion by the definition of the term religion.
You see what I'm saying?
This weird definition chasm that we fall into, but the schools are definitely religiously indoctrinating children in gender ideology, in critical race theory, in Marxism, right? So just because Marxism claims that it's not a religion doesn't mean it's not a religion.
It is.
No, I mean, I can't disagree with you because I've discovered the exact same thing.
It's like, it's atheism or...
Reliance on the government, it's religious in every aspect.
Mantra, religious in...
Intolerance. Well, I say dogmatism only because it's bad religion.
I think I've discovered there is good religion and there's definitely bad religion.
And it employs all of the religious stuff just in the worst possible way because you're worshipping people and you're worshipping human institutions and not actually something much more profound.
Okay, so that's...
You're in Bel Air when this is happening, and you homeschool your three kids from what grade to what grade.
And just as a matter of like, I'm asking myself here, it's like, if I don't get the certificate, I don't think I accomplished the task.
How do you do this in terms of metrics of success or even the administrative aspect of it, of having it recognized as education?
So let's take that apart for just a second.
I don't feel like I've accomplished it without the certificate.
That's a learned behavior that you learned, you were trained in school.
So I like to say that we've been schooled.
We were never educated.
We were schooled.
Which is hard for people to hear because they think that they've been educated.
And maybe to a certain degree they self-educated, right?
But... By and large, we've all been schooled.
And so we think that school is education because we were taught to think that school is education, but it's not.
And we were taught so much in the schools that are lies, okay?
So the idea that you need, do you believe that you need a diploma to go to college?
Well, I should say this.
I know that I believe it, but I don't believe that it's a good thing that I believe it.
Like a relic of trauma, where I say, like, I know it's not the right...
First of all, I know it's stupid also.
That's a great...
It's a relic of trauma, right?
So most people think you need your high school diploma to go to college.
One, you don't need a diploma to go to college.
I can attest to that.
I went to Duke, and I never got my high school diploma.
But two, you can issue yourself a high school diploma.
You make a school, and you issue a diploma.
Now... Somebody might question you on it.
When was the last time somebody asked you for your diploma?
Never. So, like, there are these rules that we were taught in school that actually don't exist.
They're like these made-up rules to keep us in line.
And, you know, to a certain degree, we should be kept in line.
But I believe we should be kept in line by morality instead of just some arbitrary rules that the government makes up.
And now we have the DNC.
I don't know if you saw, they've got an 18-foot IUD.
At the DNC, there's their golden calf.
That's religion right there.
They are worshipping child sacrifice.
They are the child sacrifice party.
They're offering free abortions and free vasectomies because they want to cease to exist, apparently.
I don't know.
It sort of boggles the mind, like, what they're thinking.
So you think...
You think there are these certain things.
What happens is when you start down this road, you start discovering all of these lies because they start disintegrating, because you start disproving them.
So, for instance, you do this popular channel.
You're producing this show.
Where did you go to school to learn how to produce this show?
Yeah. Learned it through experience.
I mean, it's uncertified, but...
The life experience, and if you're fortunate enough to actually do something mildly successful, that speaks to the capability, typically.
Although there's plenty of capable people...
Sorry, go for it.
No, most of us are self-taught.
Most of us don't pursue, as a career, that for which we went to school.
We went to school.
We got a degree.
That made us feel like we were accomplished.
And then we got hired in a job and we had to do on-the-job training because we had no idea what we were doing because school doesn't teach you, really, how to be an adult.
That's why we have a new verb, adulting, because school doesn't even teach that.
It's not education.
It's schooling.
And we're taught to rely on it.
We're taught to depend upon it and think that it's somehow...
Valuable. So I pulled Braden out at the end of second grade.
I said to Kevin, I think that if I fail at homeschooling him, he will still be better off.
So I'm willing to take this risk.
Because I, speaking five languages and having attended Duke University Engineering School, I felt incapable of educating my children.
Most of us do, because we went to school and we were schooled to think that we are incapable.
That's the accomplishment.
That is the grand accomplishment of school is it makes you feel incapable, except in this one little area.
Well, one of my major concerns is I hated school more than anything.
It was prison.
And my memories are I still hate going into school.
I hate the smell.
I hate the sounds of the echoes, the locker doors.
I bounced around three different high schools in five years because I was not enjoying it.
When I started enjoying it was in university where It valued different aspects of intellect and not full submission to authority.
I hated my teachers.
And my biggest concern, if we ever decide to homeschool...
It's our third kid who is like me.
Hates school.
It's torture.
And it is torture.
It's about submission.
It's about shutting up.
It's about one of the talks you gave.
Raising your hands, sitting there like you need to get called on.
It's prison.
It's prison for kids.
And he feels that way.
My issue, though, is...
Having been brought up through it, you do your time, and you're all the stronger, and you're all the more callous for it.
But you hate your teachers.
And my concern is, you do homeschooling, my kid's going to hate me the way I hated my teachers, and that's one of my hangups.
No, no, your child hates you for making him go to school, especially because you've now admitted that it doesn't really serve a purpose.
So your child resents you now, right?
Bring him home and say, buddy, this is a partnership.
You're going to learn.
We need to get this figured out.
And we're going to do this together.
But I don't want any backtalk because if I get backtalk, if this doesn't work, you've got to go back to school because I don't have any other choice.
Right? And then he's invested.
He's like, well, wait, Dad, we've got to make this work because I don't want to go back to school.
And you're going out on a limb for me.
And so I'm grateful to you.
You see?
You reposition it.
And then you figure out.
What is his special gift?
You know, my oldest son is extraordinarily gifted with social media.
Where was he going to go to school to learn how to do that?
And by the way, nobody can teach him because he's that good.
He's really good on social media.
He gets it.
No, duh.
Like, he's young, so of course.
But he really gets, he understands how algorithms work.
He understands how to sort of game the system and stuff like that.
I schooled him.
I schooled him all the way through because I was so beholden to my own schooling thinking that I had been educated.
It took me until he was close to finished for me to realize that actually the focus on all the academics for him maybe did him a little bit of a disservice anyway.
The fact that he was homeschooled made up for a lot of that.
It sort of made up for it because he had the freedom to pursue his interests, going alongside the stuff that I made him do.
So now I'm of the thinking because my youngest is an artist.
And so when she was like 11 or 12, I hit my knees.
I was like, God, you know, I can teach my oldest as an actor.
Aside from the social media, he's an actor.
I'm like, I can teach the actor.
I can teach the engineer.
I really don't know what to do with the artist.
So this one's a mistake, and you're going to have to get this sorted out for me.
And somebody said to me, well, if she likes to do art, maybe an anatomy class.
So I ran upstairs and I said, Tavey, let's get you an anatomy class.
What do you think?
And she gave me this sort of like, well, bless your heart, Mom.
But I'm already studying anatomy, and I've been studying it for a couple years now.
And she showed me her sketches of like the interior workings of the human knee with labeled body parts at 11 or 12. Sounds Da Vinci-esque.
And yes, because she's an artist and she knows I need to know the stuff that I want to know.
And so I'm going to go learn that because I set her free.
So even though she's highly academic, she was pursuing the academics.
She's an introvert, so in all of her introverted time, she could pursue the art stuff, and she's highly gifted, and she's trained herself, because we are, by and large, we are all self-taught.
This is the other anomaly, or the other, what's the word?
Well, lie from the system, is that you need a teacher.
You don't need a teacher.
You teach yourself.
By the way, all the answers are in the books, so if you're worried about how to teach your kid, If you're teaching from a textbook, the answer's right there.
You just have to read it.
But what is his interest?
Why does he need to know trigonometry if he's going to be a fiction writer?
You know what I mean?
In school, we just teach a bunch of stuff.
Here, throw the book at them.
Throw everything at them.
Teach them all of that stuff.
Don't teach them anything about real life, but teach them all this academic stuff.
Because they might want to do something.
That's not how learning should work.
My biggest revelation was that I think there's basic things.
They need to learn the basics so that they can then learn what they want to learn and reading basic arithmetic and all these things.
And what I'm noticing is they're not even doing that.
I don't know what the hell they're doing.
Sam, you don't mind if I bring my wife on, do you?
No. Because I know that she has questions.
Now she's getting nervous.
Look at this.
I can see her back up.
I'm going to bring her in here and I'm going to go on the...
How do we do this?
I want to go like this.
And I want to go like this.
Okay, that's my wife, Marion.
Sam, Marion.
I'm not getting nervous, but I noticed there's someone ringing the front door.
Oh, dear.
You're going to get it?
No, I think it's the neighbor kid.
Our house has become a communal school in any event.
I take the kids fishing.
They learn anatomy when we gut the fish.
Sam, I know we don't need the certificate, but there's laws and the government says you have to go to school.
Is there a practical advice for, you know, state by state as to how you get the homeschooling recognized, if anybody just practically wants to do it?
Yeah. So there's a great website called HSLDA.
It's the Homeschool Legal Defense Association.
I highly recommend that you buy their insurance because they will protect you from the state, regardless of what state you live in.
And they have all the parameters on their website of what needs to happen for you to legally homeschool in your state.
It is legal in every 50 states.
Every one of the 50 states.
In Florida, it's pretty simple.
You simply tell the state of Florida, I will be homeschooling this year.
In California, it's very similar.
Those are the only two states where I have homeschooled, which is so interesting because they're so diametrically opposed, seemingly.
But California is very easy to homeschool in.
So is the state of Florida.
The state of Florida requires testing.
Testing at the end of the year, but you can forego testing and just do a meeting with an administrator type who is certified by the state and can evaluate.
So you just do an evaluation, which is what I did because I don't believe in tests.
I'm a horrible test taker.
And so I just never wanted to put my kids through that because I have anxiety issues about tests.
So for Florida, it's really simple.
And by the way, their test, their evaluation needs to answer a single question.
Did your child learn this year?
Pass. So that's your metric.
And by the way, that's a more rigorous metric than is implied in our schools.
It is child abuse to send your child to school.
At this point, because of what they're doing to children.
I interviewed a gal on my show yesterday.
You know, I do a show on Patriot TV.
And I had her on.
They transitioned her 13-year-old without her knowledge when she found out because the 13-year-old slipped up and said, well, we had a meeting and they asked me what bathroom I want to use.
She called the school and the school said, it's none of your business.
So, you know, you are submitting your child to the authority of the state when you send them to a public school.
I would never do that today.
I wouldn't even come close to a school today.
And, you know, my kids used to call the schools child prisons.
So when you're talking about feeling like you were in prison, I'm like, yeah, my kids, they picked up on that too.
There's no need to.
Like I told Kevin, even if you fail at homeschooling, your child will be better off.
And so will they learn something?
I don't know.
Do you have anything that you could possibly teach your child aside from maybe tying his shoes?
Do you have anything of value to offer your child?
I think you do.
I have more faith in you as the parents than I do in the 22-year-olds who just graduated from the Marxist training colleges, who have not been taught really how to teach children.
They've been taught behavior management, classroom management, which is what I experienced when my child was in school.
Was all of this behavior management stuff that I was like, but he's not learning anything.
Oh, but I sat him next to our misbehaved child and he was such a good influence on him.
Not his job!
So I did pick up your book, which I think if anyone's interested is really interesting.
And this idea of social, like we think of school as being somewhere that they go and socialize.
And last year, it was so obvious that our son was in a grade two class with very few boys.
And so with the few boys that were in the class, the dynamic was totally off.
It was a new teacher.
She had a really hard time with these four boys, and she kept splitting them up.
And I'm a neuroscientist, and something I could tell is that he was in pain.
He was in physical pain that every time he wanted to be with his friend...
He couldn't.
He couldn't be with him in the lineup.
At lunchtime, he wouldn't eat lunch because he was so excited to go and play with his friend.
And then he would get in trouble for wanting to be with his friends.
And then he wouldn't be angry in school because he was so hungry.
And the teacher would be like, well, he should have eaten at lunch.
And so then they would separate them at lunchtime.
And so it was just like this vicious circle.
This idea of socialization.
And those are the experts.
Those are the experts.
And by the way, that's what I ask parents, because that is question number one or number two.
What about socialization?
I'm like, what makes you think kids are socialized in school?
The only reason that we believe children are socialized in school is because that's the only opportunity we give them in today's culture.
And so it's like correlation is not causation.
Can I say that and people understand what I mean?
It's like, just because they happen simultaneously, and by the way, if you talk to high schoolers today, how socialized are they?
Not very.
That's one of my theories also.
It trains them for the wrong things, which is why adults, I'm firmly convinced, behave like high school kids just at a bigger level.
Why are we all voting Kamala?
They learn the wrong lessons and they learn...
Now, I don't remember if it was today or during another thing.
The hierarchy where everything is age-based.
Older kids are taught that they dominate over the younger kids.
People bring that mentality into adulthood and it's what makes adults assholes, some of them at least.
Or they categorize them now as enriched or not enriched.
And so they put them in these different classrooms.
And this year, our son is in a classroom which is a split class, half enriched and half not enriched.
And I don't pay attention to, or so far, hit the grades or any of that.
It's all online, and I actually don't know our password, so I haven't gone on to figure out whether or not.
I said, if he's failing, they'll tell us.
Is he enriched?
Is our kid enriched or not?
I don't know.
I don't know if they consider him not enriched.
I know he's very, very smart, but I know also the teachers find he can have behavioral problems.
And so I have no idea.
They won't tell you if he's failing until it's too late, really.
Like, until they say, well, we're going to have to hold him back a year because he's failing.
You'll discover things after the fact, and you'll be like, why didn't they tell me?
They don't have time.
They're busy doing other things.
The idea that he is stuck in school and if he is in fact enriched, which I'm sure you're right, I'm sure he's very bright, then he's bored out of his skull and he's being abused by basically taunting him with his friends and they're not allowing him to go to his friends.
It's really the worst of all scenarios.
And by the way, he's a boy, right?
He's second grade?
You said he's second grade?
Yeah, I was in third grade.
Nine. He's eight or nine?
Yeah, eight.
At that point, that's when little boys can actually sit still for a while, right?
But up until then, making him sit at a desk is abusive to a little boy.
It's just the worst thing.
He should be outside hitting things with sticks because that's what they do well at that age.
And yet we just sit them down at desks and make them read and make them do all these things.
There's no timeline that you need to adhere to.
He should be reading, potentially, at this age.
Great. Give him good books and let him read.
And just make that his education.
Like, you need to read.
There's a whole focus of education.
It's escaping me right now.
I'll think of the name in just a minute, where basically it's just reading the good books.
And you'll be exposed, if you read these good books, to all the history, all the science, all the math.
Really, that a person needs to become successful, because at the point where you differentiate yourself, you say, well, I really want to be a neurosurgeon.
Okay, then you go and you study the math that you need, or then you go and you study the physics that you really are fascinated by.
They have so overcomplicated school so that we are frightened of educating our own children.
But let me tell you something.
This nation is the greatest nation on earth.
There's a reason for that.
Because it was created by 56 individuals who got together and decided how this nation should self-govern.
That was a brand new thought.
And in that creation, how many of them went to school?
None. They were all homeschooled.
They all read original documents.
They read the Bible.
They read the Magna Carta.
They read all original documents.
And they came up with the most brilliant idea in human history.
In human history.
Created the greatest advance of prosperity for the entire world.
And they were all self-educated.
They were all basically homeschooled.
So why we think that we, you know, at school...
School is the great experiment and it is an abject failure.
Why we subject our children to this failed experiment that other people have trained us to believe in is beyond me.
School is a religion that we should stop believing in because it has disastrous results.
It is.
My biggest revelation was I drove from Florida up to Montreal.
Marion and I took the kids, or at least two of the three, we went to Milwaukee for the RNC, drove through Toronto.
And as we're driving, you realize that they're seeing things, they're seeing the states physically with their own eyes.
They can piece together farming states versus coastal states.
On the way back down, I took our third kid, Ethan, to...
Harper's Ferry, we saw Tim Pool, but we go for a hike in Civil War Country, and we're looking at the buildings, and we go for a hike.
Kid whines and complains like a baby, but he did the hike nonetheless.
And then we come back to the hotel, and he wants to watch The Patriot.
It's violent, and it's fine, but he watched it, and he understood more of that movie than anybody ever watched.
Then I said, well, that's education.
And he'll remember this more than ever, but it doesn't get recognized.
And how do I show at the end of the year that I've done what I need to do to make sure my kid grows up to be smart, knows everything, knows what he needs to know?
You're scot-free because you live in the great state of Florida.
And so I can actually recommend to you an evaluator who she literally, she asked, what did you do for school this year?
What did you learn?
And if he can answer a little bit.
She'll be like, that's great.
Keep going.
And by the way, if he fails and she says, you know, your child didn't learn anything this year.
You've got one more year to make sure that he learns something and then we're going to have to do something.
Like, it's just not that onerous.
It's so not onerous because they can't make it too onerous because they're failing.
You will do, you've already done so much more.
Than he is getting in school.
And it was so much less frustrating because as frustrated as he was on that hike, that was a bonding experience with you.
That was beneficial, despite his frustration about, oh, it's too long or whatever.
For sure.
I feel like we've made a lot of changes since COVID.
And when we were living in Canada, the schools were completely shut down.
A lot of it was online.
So we've been really...
Changing the way that we've approached education since 2020.
We had kids home, kids at school, kids online.
And so you start to see what the differences are and what they're actually learning and how much wasted time and how frustrating it is for them.
And so we've changed a lot.
And now that we're in Florida, they do go to a public school.
And I was thinking that, well, they get home so early.
They used to go to school.
My oldest, she went to school from eight to...
4.30, yeah.
4.30 sometimes.
But she was learning English, French, Hebrew.
It was a religious school, and she did extremely well, but that was her personality.
She loved learning.
She loved that type of education.
But then here in public school, I say, oh, they get home at two, we'll still have lots of time to do the extracurriculars of, we wanted to do French and piano lessons and those things.
I said, we still have the afternoon, but they get home and I can see he's defeated.
And then for me to come in, it's like, no, I've already done school.
That is all I can ask.
And that's true.
The rest of the day is whatever he wants to do, because I don't feel like we can add more things.
They are killing.
Yes. Please stop.
Please, today when he gets home from school, give him the greatest news of his life and say, you know what?
We've decided you don't need school.
We're going to homeschool you.
We're going to have fun.
We're going to figure out how to get you educated.
And you're going to join us in this endeavor because this is about serving you and making sure that you're not frustrated anymore.
And then maybe a little bit of an apology that we frustrated you for so long with these silly school people.
I was brought up that parents never apologize to their children.
I'm joking, I'm joking.
How'd that work out for you?
Well, I did go to three high schools in five years.
He started a law firm with his father.
They're now very close, but they did have a...
I saw someone in the chat say you should have a little bit of a bad relationship with your father at some point, and maybe that's true.
Well, I mean, mine happened to have lasted five years, but that might have been a little too much.
We have this cultural identity that teenagers rebel, right?
Everybody admits, oh, you've got three teenagers.
Oh my gosh, that's got to be a handful because they're all rebellious, right?
Wrong. I had three teenagers.
My teenagers never rebelled because I kept them close.
Our relationship is so astonishing to me because it was never my intention to have great relationships with my kids.
That's not why I homeschooled.
But because I homeschooled, we have the...
Such an incredible understanding.
And they give me advice.
And I take it sometimes.
And I give them advice.
And they take it.
And you can have that relationship with your child.
You don't need to have a contentious relationship with your child.
The only reason that you go into this contentious relationship with your child is because the school forms a wedge between the child and the parent.
Yeah, we have one teenager, and I feel...
The same.
We have no, she has not any rebellion in her.
Well, she would succeed in prison.
I mean, she would succeed in literal prison.
That's what I'm saying.
And then I see Ethan, and obviously he's very much like Dave.
And I think something else you brought up in the book was that the schools are not the same as they used to be back in the day.
And Dave got away with a lot.
He would not have gotten away.
I don't know if Dave has shared many of the stories.
He would not have gotten away with what he's got away with in school now.
If I had done today what I did in high school, I would be banned for life from society.
Literally, I would have been put on a list or put in an institution or whatever, or jail.
At some point, it got old enough to be in jail.
Sorry, Sam, that was a question for you.
No, the general question is that schools...
Are not the same as they used to be.
And we have this romantic idea of what schools are.
We're sending them with a single teacher.
And they've changed so much.
I see it with our school now.
It is.
It's one of the best public schools in Florida, probably.
But they're so focused on stupid things.
Right. Let me say this.
We have this tendency to personalize the failures.
Oh, I couldn't learn math.
That's on me because I don't have a math brain.
There's no such thing as a math brain.
But we tend to personalize.
Like, I couldn't learn math.
It's my fault that I couldn't learn math.
But I really excelled at history.
I had great history teachers, and school was great for teaching me history.
And so we corporatize the successes because we have been We have been schooled not to blame the school for anything, to think that school is the normal, school is the good, school is the best.
And so any issues that we personally might have had with school, that's personal to us.
We are the outliers.
But that's wrong.
So your daughter's an outlier because she's maybe the...
Part of the maybe 10% of kids who really like the structure, the rigor, the academics, the tests, like the striving that the school environment creates.
And good for her.
It works for her, right?
But for most kids, it doesn't really work.
And they get by.
And they struggle, and it's not the best, and they struggle with bullying, and they're not the most popular, and they struggle with the social media aspect that happens in school, the social aspects that happen.
And then there's, say, the bottom 15%, and I say bottom just because, you know, we're talking about a scale, where maybe Ethan is, where it's just not working for him.
It's just really not successful.
But I would argue it's really not successful for most of the kids, 90% of them.
Even with our oldest who does 60, she teaches herself.
She could have no teachers and she would still be able to do it.
So she's just functioning within the parameters that she's been doled out, right?
And she's just making it work for her.
It might have been better if she were homeschooled and she could just...
You know, go at her own pace.
She might have been graduated by now.
She might be, you know.
What I have found here in Florida, which has been different for her, is she actually is, she's in grade, she's starting grade 10 now, and she's taking the senior classes.
So she's already, and she's figured it all out.
She has all her ACEs.
I don't even know.
I can't figure it out.
And I really, it's beyond me.
All the different programs, but she's very disciplined, and she's figured it out.
And she's also doing a theater program.
Which is something that I don't, it's very extracurricular.
And so it's very, it's something that I never would have thought for her.
I'm in science and Dave is as a lawyer.
We have, you know, very academic backgrounds.
And yet she's been kind of drawn to this theatre program and really enjoys it.
And so we've kind of let her decide what to do.
And because she's so mature, she's been able to just...
Well, I happen to think the practice of law is all theatre.
Sam, this is the thought process that I've had.
It's sort of the devil and the angel fighting with each other.
When a kid doesn't want to go to school and Marion makes the joke, you know, it's because they love being home and they like being home on the weekends.
Mondays are terrible.
And then the schooled part of me says, well, part of being a good parent is building a kid to be able to, not creating that dependence, an unhealthy dependence between...
Right. So the key word in what you just said is unhealthy.
And how you define the word unhealthy.
And I suspect that you're defining it culturally, how the culture defines unhealthy, which is, oh, children shouldn't be attached to their parents.
I firmly believe children should be attached to their parents for as long as it takes them to detach.
The goal is for them to detach.
But detachment at the age of four, I think, is entirely inappropriate.
At the age of three is entirely inappropriate.
And even at the age of eight is inappropriate.
Because children need their parents.
But the culture will tell you, no, no, children need school more than they need their parents.
Because that's what the government wants you to believe.
It's just, it's all, it's all upended.
You have to, unfortunately, you're in a position now where you are being forced to question all of your preconceived notions because the health of your youngest really hangs in the balance.
And I'm not saying, like, the worst will happen, but there are kids who go to school who suffer the things that your son might be going through, and I don't know the whole story, and those kids don't end up okay.
My daughter maintains, because she's an extreme introvert, she'd be cutting by now if she was forced to deal with 30 kids a day or more every day going to school.
She would just, look, she went to one day a week with four other students in her class.
One day, a week.
And every day that she went to that class with the four other students, she came home and slept for two hours because she was done.
And that was like, so that was the extent of what I sort of subjected her to because academics are important, right?
And so you have to go back and reevaluate what you mean by unhealthy.
Kids need their parents.
By the way, let me say this.
Our culture hates kids.
We seek to deprive them of their childhoods.
I think that's a terrible thing.
We call it school.
We say it's good for them.
We know it's not good for them.
On its face, we can see it's not really good for them.
But, I don't know, we're busy and we don't want to take the time or whatever.
It's cultural.
It's what people do.
It's just the way it goes.
You should be fighting with your dad or whatever.
These sort of ideas that we have.
That we grew up with.
And I'm saying, let's make a break from those.
And let's look at this logically and rationally.
Your children want to adore you.
They were given to you so that they could adore you.
And by the way, so that eventually, not to get too religious, sorry.
So that eventually they can transfer that adoration to the guy in the sky.
Okay? That's really the, that's supposed to be the progression.
What happens is school gets in between.
They start to transfer that adoration or that respect to the school.
Then they disrespect you because you can't serve two masters.
And the moment that the school says, well, daddy kills dolphins because he gave you a plastic bag in your lunch, and that's a terrible thing, then they're questioning, well, daddy might not be the greatest guy in the world, even though I thought he was up until now.
My teacher says he's not, right?
The teacher sends home a permission slip.
And so your kid says, Daddy, Daddy, you have to sign this.
The teacher said you have to sign this.
He says you have to sign it.
And you're like, oh, that's sweet.
Let me give it to me.
I'll sign it.
Whoops, you just went under the authority of the teacher.
So now there's a conflict for that child.
I say let's remove all of that.
Don't force the child to choose.
Keep him with you.
I'm just going to bring this up just so everybody knows.
Sam was being facetious when she said we can't get religious.
The interesting thing is I've been listening to Jordan Peterson's interpretation of certain biblical verses as well, and he talked about the analogy between parents and children and humans and God, and there's an analogous comparison which I find compelling.
Everybody who says...
I find it very compelling.
It's worth listening to.
What was I about to say?
Oh, this!
I'm sorry, Sam.
I wanted to bring this up because this one does...
This has not happened to our kids.
I have a morbid fear of any mental medication.
But schools also recommend drugging children who they consider to be ADHD.
It's not considered normal to be distracted.
Such bullshit.
We've had, not with our kids, but experience where we're talking and that's what someone told me their school said to do to their kid.
And I'm like, I know your kid.
We're related.
The kid's beautiful, magnificent.
And whoever suggested that is a criminal.
But that's what it takes to get an eight-year-old kid to sit down for six hours a day and focus.
It's a wild, broken system.
Yes. It's not broken.
It's working exactly as it was designed.
That's what I'm trying to make people understand.
It's not broken.
It's very bad.
It's evil.
It's not broken.
They will suggest drugging the child because it's easier for them.
If the child's on drugs, that's easier for them.
And they don't want to work that hard.
They went to Marxist teaching colleges.
They don't want to work hard.
They just want to turn out little Marxists.
That's all.
And it's all abuse.
I mean, look, the state of Vermont, the Supreme Court in Vermont just ruled that the school may administer vaccines against the parents' wishes.
They don't have to check.
They don't even have to know.
But even if they do know and they want to vaccinate that child, they will.
That was one of our two red lines in the sand to leave or red lines.
Red lines line in the sand to leave Quebec.
They basically changed the Youth Protection Act that gave the government authority, over parental authority, to do what they think is in the best interest of the kid.
And that's, by the way, it's not...
See, we're raised to believe, because we went to school, government is this sort of beneficent, beneficial sort of entity that's just looking out for your best interests.
No. Government is a collection of puny bureaucrats who are twiddling their thumbs trying to figure out how to control other people more.
I'm going to get some questions here, if you don't mind, Sam.
These are a couple of them for you.
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Just hearing her is healthy, is healing my inner child that went through school.
Hell, that's from Brain Socks.
Book recommendation.
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It will forever change the way you view the school.
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I'm 44, was homeschooled and work in industry as an electrical controls engineer minus a degree.
We homeschool our eight children.
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It's amazing.
And then Barrett Boy says, Idaho is the best.
No need to deal with the state at all.
No required testing, no reporting, nothing.
Simply withdraw students from public school and you are set.
Idaho is the best.
Yeah, that's true.
But other states aren't that onerous.
Some other states.
Many other states aren't that onerous.
I think Minnesota requires testing.
Okay, so your kid does the testing.
Any practical advice on what they call...
Marian, what is it called?
Podding? Oh, homeschool pods?
Homeschool pods.
When you're doing this...
One of my concerns also, like I don't, at least our oldest makes a lot of friends and, you know, made friends in school.
Our youngest, all of the kids, the friends are neighbors.
So, I mean, in terms of this, not the socializing in the wrong way, but in terms of getting them to meet other people, do you do pods or is it, you know, extracurricular afternoon stuff and through regular life that you get a kid to meet other kids?
Yes. All of it.
Any of it.
Maybe none of it.
It depends on the child.
My oldest.
When he was in first grade, he made his own play dates on my phone.
People would come to my house and say, oh my gosh, are you okay that I'm dropping Joey off?
I just realized I never spoke to you directly.
So that was my oldest because he's an extreme extrovert.
My next two were both introverts.
They only had one friend ever.
That's all they wanted.
They didn't want more friends.
Do you want to invite other people to your birthday party?
No, I just want Aiden.
Okay, we'll just have Aiden over for your birthday party.
Meanwhile, my oldest is like calculating, if I invite the family, do they bring more gifts or should I just invite the child?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So kids are different.
And by the way, parents are different too.
And so that also, there's a bit of a learning curve for parents, right?
If you're an extreme introverted parent and your child's an extrovert, that might be a challenge for you, but you gotta...
You've got to buck up Buttercup and get it done, right?
Your children are given to you to teach you.
When you send them away from you, you are foregoing the greatest gift in your life, the greatest lessons and the greatest gift that you could possibly have.
And so when you keep your children with you and you work for them and with them to grow them into adults, because that's what we're talking about here.
We're not talking about earning a degree at Harvard or, I mean, I suspect your audience probably doesn't want their children to go to Harvard, maybe.
But what I'm saying is you're talking about raising somebody who is giving and forgiving, knows how to ask for forgiveness, knows how to offer it, right?
These are qualities of human beings that we need.
We don't need more Einsteins.
These types of human beings.
You want to raise somebody to be a good adult and to be successful in life, sure.
But whether that's academic or not, like you just had the one listener who's an engineer, not degreed, working in the field, there's no problem there.
I'll tell you, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, years ago started recruiting homeschoolers because homeschoolers are outside-the-box thinkers.
Kids who go to school...
They spend their lives in institutions.
They only learn how to do what the institutions program them to do.
They can't think outside the box.
They're not problem solvers.
Now, the employers, businesses, are recognizing this, and they're actively searching for kids who didn't graduate college.
And it's funny because I got into a bit of a...
Weird argument with a politician.
And he was like, yeah, I actually hire kids right out of college.
I don't even look at what they studied.
I hired them because if they had the wherewithal to get through that awful gamut of studying in college, then I figure they've got the smarts.
And I'm like, seriously?
It seems to me, if that's your approach, you would hire kids who were too smart to go to college, who figured out beforehand that they didn't need to spend the money.
And he was like, Didn't know what to do with that.
This is where we are today.
Colleges are crap.
We see that.
We see the campuses.
We see what's going on.
And we need to reorganize and reprioritize our thinking on the entire nut of education.
And what I'm trying to impart to people is that it's so much easier than you've been trained to believe and so much more enjoyable.
Then our culture would have you think.
Our culture is a child sacrifice culture at this point.
We see what the DNC is doing, right?
They purportedly represent half the country.
I think that's a lie.
I don't think they do.
They're not even full to capacity.
Like, there are lots of empty seats there.
But our culture is pushing us to hate children.
And I'm saying, let's rebel against that.
Let's love our children more than our culture hates them.
Let's hold them close.
Let's raise them to be good people.
And in love, protect them from the evil that lurks in the schools and in society in general.
Because that's where we are today.
Marion and I saw it when our kids were doing Zoom classes and we saw what they were learning.
And my rationale, my justification, or at least my rationalizing it to myself is they're going to get exposed to it at some point.
I prefer to have the discussions than to shield them or not expose them to it.
But then I do realize that there is an age limit below which it's not exposure.
They don't even know how to deal with it.
It's criminal.
They're going to have sex at one point.
Six? Is six too early for sex?
Yeah. There are age limits.
Yeah. So my point is, don't expose them to it until they need it.
So they need to know.
We're on a need-to-know basis in my house.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's no reason that a young child should be exposed to a lot of the stuff that's going on in our schools today.
This summer, I saw a friend and she just started homeschooling her daughter.
And she's just a little bit younger than our...
So she's about eight...
No, she's nine.
And we went for a hike and we actually just picked up one of our kids from camp and all the counselors had...
They're pronouns on them.
And I had mentioned it to her just very, very casually, just between us, not thinking that children were even listening.
And her daughter right away said, what's pronouns?
And she had no idea.
And her mom's like, oh, we'll talk about it.
They didn't really discuss it, and we just kept hiking.
And I just thought how refreshing it was.
It hasn't even been an issue.
It just doesn't be brought up.
A nine-year-old doesn't need to know what pronouns.
Nobody should have to know what pronouns.
You know, the whole pronoun thing is because you think I'm talking about you, I need to know your third-person pronouns.
I'm not going to mention you.
You're done.
You tell me your pronouns, those are pronouns I'll never use.
People don't appreciate that.
It's the most...
Trivial form of domination.
This is how you shall refer to me when speaking about me to somebody else because necessarily you don't refer to someone you're talking to one-on-one with he, him, whatever.
It's you and we're here.
This is how you shall refer to me.
I'm royalty.
When you talk about me to others.
When you speak about me to others.
You know what?
I'm not going to mention you and your ego is way too big.
But yeah, you know, you...
You can avoid a lot of that.
And then you choose the time.
So she, I love the fact, she's like, oh, we'll talk about that later.
It's not important.
And it probably won't come up.
And if it does, she'll probably say something like, it's just people acting silly.
There's really no reason to focus on it.
And keep it going until it's really time to have that conversation.
Yeah. Yeah.
They ask two or three times and then you have the conversation.
Well, they're going to watch TV.
They'll see it on TV.
Yeah, well, they're not watching much TV.
I gotta know who this is, Marion.
Don't tell me that.
Tell me later.
I know who it is.
The irony is...
So there's a pod, right?
There's an opportunity for some sort of a pod.
And all a pod is, it's basically a friend group that homeschools.
And it can be everything from, oh, we have classes together, to we just get together, the moms have coffee, and the kids play in the park.
Like, it can be any version of that.
And you can just do a playdate in the park with somebody who you found out is homeschooling, and you go when no one else is at the park, which is what's the lovely part about homeschooling, is that your hours are your own.
So that's sort of the pods.
Now, I did classical conversations.
They don't pay me.
They are an international homeschool co-op.
They give you all of, basically...
From grade seven, it's school in a box.
Highly academic.
That's sort of the other end of the spectrum.
Do not ever do K through 12. That's government school at home.
That is designed for your failure.
It is designed to make you fail and give up and put your kids back in school, so don't do it.
And then there are also just online academies.
Which, if your child is extremely academic, that might be a good option.
But for an 8-year-old, I would never sit an 8-year-old down in front of a computer.
You know, maybe 10 years old, a class or two, but not like an all-day thing.
I would never do that.
If you give your child good books, that's really all they need.
I know it sounds ridiculous because you're like, but what about math?
Okay, get them a math workbook if you want.
They'll get the math.
It will come almost supernatural.
It just naturally it'll come, right?
Because you'll sit down, you'll go, you know what, let's bake some cookies.
Okay, we need three quarters of a cup.
Do you know what three quarters of a cup is?
No. Okay, let me explain that to you.
Like, you're not an idiot.
You have lots to offer your child.
You can teach your child a lot of things.
You've got a lawyer and you're a neuroscientist?
Neuroscientist, yeah.
Yeah. I have a PhD.
You have a PhD.
Like, you're super smart.
You've got a lot to offer your credit.
We went through the traditional...
Well, the funny thing is, I think I know who my wife is talking about in terms of who's homeschooling, and you got your dichotomy, or you got your hippie liberals, and then you got your extreme MAGA Republicans who are all homeschooling now.
It'll be the great unifier at the end of the day.
It does feel full circle in some ways.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's...
When you realize...
It's like meets it down in the middle.
But let me say this.
Just to feed into this a little bit.
Ben Carson's mother insisted that he do a book report every week.
She couldn't read.
You can teach your child even stuff you don't know.
You can teach your child.
I taught Latin and I learned it as I went.
So it's not...
Children are sponges.
They want to learn.
When they go to school...
The curiosity engine is killed, smothered on purpose.
Don't do that to your child.
Feed the curiosity engine.
He will far exceed any of your wildest dreams.
Any of your wildest dreams, you're going to go, oh my gosh, this is the secret sauce.
Why was this hidden from me?
And then you're going to get angry because when you have this relationship with your child, you're going to go, the school wanted to rob me of this?
How dare they?
And that's why I'm on this crusade.
Sam, you mentioned it, like, I say, not money in the greedy sense, but playing poker with kids, they will learn math real quick when you have 25-cent pieces, $1, $5, etc.
I'm trying to think, the baking is another...
Yes, baking.
I used to take my kids' garage sale, teaches them negotiation, because everybody will negotiate with a child.
And so they go up and they go...
I remember my son asking me, he said, Mom, they want a quarter for this.
Should I offer him 15 cents?
I'm like...
You know what?
A quarter is fine.
Don't negotiate under a quarter.
Let's make that the deal.
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Rusdang says, if you trust the teachers' administration and the so-called educator activists deeply embedded in the public school system, you may be in for a nasty shock when they come out screwed up with Neal Marxism.
Why do you trust the teachers?
Why do you trust the teacher?
Do you know the teacher?
I don't.
I don't trust, but I certainly engage in the discussions when we come home and say, what did you learn?
And we talk about some of the teachers who clearly are going through their own things.
I just saw a video of a mom complaining to the school board her son was sodomized by the kindergarten teacher.
He was four years old.
He's traumatized for life now.
She's picking up the pieces.
I'm telling you, it's not worth it.
It's Russian roulette, except that the gun is loaded five chambers instead of one.
It's Russian roulette with your kids, and it's your kid.
It's not worth it.
And even if you want to try and get involved, which is something that I've tried more recently, There's so many rules.
And it's all just...
And why?
Why are you spinning your wheels that direction when you could just be devoting all of that time only on your child?
Well, it's almost like...
It's bad math where, like, Marion and I...
Or Marion more so than me.
But we get involved, but it's almost like you get involved to supervise and undo the damage where it's like...
Actually, it just gives you a closer view of what's going on.
We had a class party.
And first of all, you have to...
The majority of the focus here is on security.
There's so much involved in even just entering our school because of the school shootings that they focus on security.
You have to get badges.
You have to pass tests.
We had to actually do an online test and register with...
Anyways, so you get in and then you want to have a class party and then the rules start with the class parties.
You're not allowed to bring younger siblings.
You're not allowed to...
Dietary stuff.
...
kind of baked goods.
How do we have these class parties and we're not allowed to...
To bring anything that we need.
It's a commie party.
It's a commie party with scarcity for everyone.
Bringing your favorite chips.
The security always blows my mind because you've got to show photo ID to get into a school if you're five minutes late.
And I'm sitting there waiting for them to come open the door.
Meanwhile, five, six people go in.
If I'm a badass, it's the illusion of safety, but it's the administrative state just making rules and you have to follow them.
And I'm sitting there with my kid and he's like, Why don't you just go in the door?
I was like, I gotta wait for the Adele to come out because I don't want to get in trouble for going in when I don't have ID.
It's the illusion of education.
Yep. Listen, I have to go.
I have a two o'clock.
I know.
I'm sorry.
I said, okay, I was going to do another show.
We're going to end this.
We'll say our proper goodbyes because I was going to go.
I'll do the DNC stuff later today.
Sam, where can people find you?
What can they do?
Follow you, et cetera, et cetera.
What do you want to say?
And then we're going to say our proper goodbyes afterwards.
Okay, go to sorbostudios.com.
Sign up for the newsletter.
I do a lot of homeschooling there also.
My website is samsorbo.com, but you can find it if you just navigate to sorbostudios.com.
And then tune into my patriot.tv show.
That's the website, patriot.tv.
And it's subscription-based.
It's General Flynn's endeavor to have a truth-filled platform.
And so I do my show there every day at 4. Amazing.
Everybody who wanted to hear me bitch and moan about the DNC thing last night, I'll start a separate stream in 20 minutes.
Sam, stick around.
We'll say our proper goodbyes.
Marion, I'll see you upstairs.
But hold on.
Everybody out there, thank you for being here, and I'll put all the links in the pinned comment.
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