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Aug. 13, 2024 - Viva & Barnes
02:21:10
Trump & Musk Twitter Spaces LIVE! I Got a Connection
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Are you screaming now?
I'm not sure.
I don't know what's going on.
I'm pretty sure you're streaming.
Yeah, you're streaming.
Yeah, you're on live.
Oh, we're live.
Okay, that's good.
We're live?
Hello? Hello?
Okay, well, apparently we have the most valuable real estate on Earth.
We have the most valuable real estate on earth.
I managed to connect to the live stream.
I don't know how long I've been live for.
You're saying hi.
You're saying hi to the internet.
Hello. I'm joking.
He can come back here.
You can come back here.
What I was going to say is when we went live on Rumble Studio it said can't connect via Twitter or X. Do you still want to proceed?
I don't know how long this has been live for.
You said you have a connection.
Oh, I got a connection.
It's right here.
Let's make sure I'm not sharing.
It's right here.
So, this is an amazing thing right now.
You're obviously an amazing thing.
Hold on.
Dude, you want to talk to the world?
Let's do this.
So, we've got the Twitter X space Elon Musk.
Anybody knows that this is live and I'm missing it, let me know.
But I've...
Shut up!
670,000 have joined the space now.
What? Okay, so I got in.
This is real estate.
This is real estate that not everybody has right now.
6,000 people just wanted to use it.
Not 6,000.
600. Well, 600,000 are in.
400,000.
DDoS attack on X. Okay, yeah, I got that much.
So I'm going to keep this right here.
Don't touch.
Don't touch.
And don't even look at it.
Don't even look at it.
No, you can stay right there.
You can look at it.
So I don't know what's going on anywhere because I threw this together.
I didn't know that we're actually live yet.
No, you weren't live.
It's not up because of DDoS attack.
Okay, I'm getting another one.
I'm getting a lot of messages indicating it's not up because of a DDoS attack, which means a direct...
What does DDoS mean?
Oh, come on.
While we're at a family party, let's do...
Let's do this.
Hold on a second.
I don't even know what the world sees now.
Get in here.
Get in here.
We got one, two.
You squeeze in the middle.
Okay. And we got...
Oh, hello.
Are you in?
Are you in?
I'm on the same thing.
759,000 people.
Shut up.
It was at 670,000.
So if nobody can hear what my wife is saying.
So it was at 670 when we last looked at it.
Now it's at 765,000.
If we...
I think we need to do some dancing.
Get the leaf.
No, not leaf.
Get in is what you need to do.
No, no, no.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
No, that's getting confusing.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
Okay.
This is ridiculous.
We're going to get to a million, I think.
I have to go.
I have to switch this.
That doesn't matter right now.
Hold on a second.
Switch account?
I don't know.
I'll find that in a second.
I'm going to go to this account.
No, forget that.
What I need to do right now...
Elon Musk.
Elon Musk, apparently he went to TD Bank Canada and said, what do you guys use when you're on hold?
And TD Bank said, we use this.
And he's like, I love it!
Hook me up with that!
Oh, I need more of this.
Hold on a second.
Dashboard? No, hold on.
Nobody's looking at this, right?
The studio?
Oh, he's got crusties on the other side of his eye.
Okay, so hold on.
While we figure this all out, what you want to do is...
Shut up.
Shut up.
Shut the front door.
Shut up.
Everyone shut up.
Donald, your mic is on.
Vivek, if this is you, don't go to the bathroom right now.
Everybody's listening.
Everybody, we can hear this.
So right now I've got my mic pressed up against my iPhone.
And I'm going to go to...
Ooh, smarty pants.
The kid said, oh, you mean your iPhone pressing onto the mic.
Okay, so we definitely hear something that's not Muzak.
And, oh, shoot.
If I get, if I get discount...
Oh, son of a gun!
I accidentally pressed, I activated a text message that came in.
Am I still in here?
You're still in.
It is 850.
Okay, we're gonna see what's happening here.
All that I'm doing right now is I'm trying to go to Rumble.
I'm going to Rumble Studio.
There's a dog.
That's what the dogs do.
No, this is what...
Son of a gun.
I don't know if I'm still in.
Get that kid out of here.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
What's going on?
Hold on.
Okay, this is on.
I'm still in.
I see that there are...
I'm joined.
Okay. If I get kicked, the host seems muted.
Tap on avatar to see more ways to interact.
I don't need to do that.
It's being recorded.
Is the host Donald Trump?
The host is Elon Musk.
The guest is Donald Trump.
No, no, the host on mine says Donald Trump.
The host on yours says Donald Trump.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, it says tap on the avatar to connect.
That's funny, we see different people in there.
Oh, okay, so now live.
Hold on, I'm going to my own thing here.
Oh, now I see.
Do you see me on yours?
No, I don't see you.
I see Tim Pool.
She sees Tim Pool.
Okay, but hold on.
Do you hear anything?
You connected as well, right?
Yes. Okay, you don't hear anything.
Okay, so apparently nobody hears anything.
So I'm going to bring the mic back up to my face.
I'm going to go over here.
It's not right to pick your child's nose on the national television.
You said you have a connection.
I do have a connection.
The deep state attack.
There's no question about that.
I'm scrolling all the way down.
It doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter.
What matters right now is can we hear it?
They turn the music off.
Okay, good.
It says Cotton Miller.
I think they just...
Okay. I'm in, but no talking good, says Bubbles.
So, all that we're doing here, I will be valueless tonight.
Okay, mom, take this to the child.
Hold on a second.
See, if you hold a child's nose and then block the mouth.
Can't do that.
That's actually...
Just let the kid fix your computer.
Yeah, he unplugged it five times and then plugged it back in.
So long as we don't hear anything...
You what?
Only seven minutes.
Seven minutes is a lifetime when you're Joe Biden.
Seven minutes is actually...
It might be the rest of your lifetime when you're Joe Biden.
Okay, stop.
No politics when the kids are around.
I don't know what I was trying to do here, so I'm trying to make sure that we're live on Viva Barnes.
Okay, so I'm going to go V-va.
Viva! And I know Barnes is doing a bourbon with Barnes tonight, and we might be overlapping.
Okay, so...
Oh, we're in VivaBarnesLaw.logals.com, people!
I'm in Trump hosting, but Elon gone.
Elon gone.
Says JR6.
Ooh! Bourbon with Barnes tonight says Suzy Cat.
Okay, but hold on, because Bourbon with Barnes will be on.
Newsflare. We don't need to see that.
Hold on a second.
We need to go back now to Rumble.
They see you.
The fact that you don't see them, they still see you.
This is what the world sees.
Okay. Okay, so Elon is back as speaker.
So, hold on.
I'm so nervous about touching my phone.
There you go.
Don't even joke like that.
So we got Trump and we got Elon.
And hold on.
Just for the sake of it, I'm going to request to be a speaker.
Request this.
If I get kicked for this, I will regret it.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I sent a request to Donald Trump.
Hold on one second.
Hold on one second.
Let's bring this back.
Okay. I sent a request to Donald Trump to be a speaker.
Does Donald Trump know you?
He does not.
He does not know me.
As much as I want to impress my child.
There are people within the orbit who know me, but not Donald Trump.
So, there is no 893,000 listeners, says Lucy the dog.
893,000 listeners and nobody's hearing anything because...
I'm going to do this.
This is just like when the kids hear me with the earphones on.
Hold on.
No, it's okay.
I have no kids.
There's nobody here.
Oh, crap.
The kids here.
Okay, you can take them.
You're not hearing anything because there's nothing going on.
Okay, so anyway, what we've got right now is...
We've got the real estate because we're in.
It took like multiple tries and it took multiple jokes about Elon.
Have you tried unplugging it?
Shit. Sorry.
Shoot. Shoot.
Get out.
Go to bed.
He's going down.
There's nothing in the headphones.
Move. By the way, here.
You guys want to know how communism works?
You take this and you plug it in here.
And then they only hear what they say to themselves.
So... Am I still on or what's going on here?
Thank you.
I don't need this.
No, no, don't touch it.
Hello. Just so you know, it's on the internet forever.
I don't care.
Okay, so anyways, bottom line, there's been apparently a massive DDoS attack on...
You're looking up to see what the news is?
Massive DDoS attack on Twitter.
I'm not leaving either, but I do need to maybe...
Why'd you do that?
Marianne just gave up her real estate.
Quiet! Hello, everyone.
So, I apologize for the late start.
We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack against our servers.
We've saturated all of our data lines, like basically hundreds of gigabytes of data were saturated.
We think we've overcome most of that, and so it's not time to proceed.
But as this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say.
But I'm honored to have this conversation.
I want to emphasize it's a conversation.
And it's really intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation.
It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way.
And when there's an adversarial interview, no one's themselves in an adversarial interview.
And this is really aimed at Kind of open-minded, independent voters who try to make up their mind.
And so you can understand like what is it just like to have a conversation.
So I'm honored to say, Donald, great to speak.
We had a great conversation yesterday.
As you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation.
Elon's going to jail for that conversation.
I hope we can have something like that today.
Well, I think we will.
I'm pretty sure we will.
And congratulations because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people.
And it's an honor.
We view that as an honor.
And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
Usually those are voices that...
Have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.
And so we have to consider it an honor.
But congratulations on breaking every record in the book.
Everybody can hear this?
You can hear this good, right?
Oh, well.
Loud and clear.
Maybe we can start off with, I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing.
And I have to say...
You know, your actions at that assassination attempt were inspiring.
You know, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight.
And I think that's, I mean, the President of the United States represents America.
And I think that is America.
That is strength under fire.
And so that's, you know...
You know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the President of the United States for having another term here is that was just incredibly inspiring.
But, I mean, what was it like for you?
Not pleasant, I have to be honest.
I said there was blood.
I didn't know I had...
I didn't know I had that much blood.
The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place if you're going to get hit.
But in this case, it was probably the best alternative you could even think about.
Best alternative to the brain.
Because it went at the right angle.
It was a hard hit.
It was very, I guess you would say surreal, but it wasn't surreal.
You know, I was telling somebody you have instances like this or like a lot less than this where you feel it's a surreal situation.
And I never felt that way.
I knew immediately that it was a bullet.
I knew immediately that it was at.
the ear.
Yeah. And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear.
And he knew he wasn't dead.
And I also heard people shout bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down, You know, I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly, and we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down.
I moved down the best.
I'm glad I went down.
The bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter, and so it hit me at an angle that was far less destructive than any other angle.
So that was the miracle.
For those who don't believe in God, I think we've got to all start thinking about that.
You have to, you know, I'm...
I'm a believer.
Now I'm more of a believer, I think.
And a lot of people have said that to me.
A lot of great people have said that to me, actually.
But it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle.
And all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great.
I love that chart even more now.
Maybe it's a sign.
Maybe that's a sign, you know.
It's an immigration sign.
You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.
The bullet missed your head.
The amazing thing is that the sign, I said, bring down that sign on immigration, and it was literally about an eighth of a second where it would be good, and after that it was going to be a disaster no matter which way you were facing.
But it just had that perfect angle, which was exactly at this shooter.
Very sad situation.
Such a sad situation.
As you know, we lost somebody that was great, Corey, a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great trupper.
He was just a fantastic family and a fantastic man.
And a friend of mine came up, Elon, and said, I'd like to give the family some kind of help.
And I said, that's great.
He said, do you mind?
I said, I don't mind at all.
And he wrote out a check for a million dollars, gave it to the wife.
And, you know, she said, this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back, which is a nice thing for somebody to say, to be honest.
She's great.
The family is great.
And we raised a lot of money for them.
Two other gentlemen are unbelievable people also.
They were hit really badly.
They thought they were not going to make it and they did.
The doctors in the Butler area, I tell you, they were incredible.
They saved the two and they were really hit tough, both of them equally.
My first question was because I heard bullets flying over me.
I said, how many people were killed?
We had a massive crowd there, a tremendous, thousands and thousands of people.
And there was no land.
I mean, it was just, it was all people.
So I said, how many people have been killed?
Because I knew there were other shots being fired.
Sure.
We don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt.
They're chanting USA when this happens.
And I have to give the secret service a sniper, they call him, or sharpshooter, but a sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem.
He's an extraordinary shot, obviously, and he didn't know there was a problem.
He was able to pick and roll out within five seconds, and he used one bullet from very far away, I guess probably about 400 yards.
The shooter was 130, but he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium.
And he saw the smoke and the flame from the gun, immediately recognized it, and immediately took a shot.
And it was one perfect shot from very far away.
And if he knew that, Elon, he would have...
I mean, if he would have...
A lot more people could have been badly hurt and killed.
So I have to take my hat off to him.
Because that's also surreal.
You know, he's been with them for 23 years.
And he's never had anything like this.
And all of a sudden he has to act.
And it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody.
Over, over.
He saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun.
Very far away.
Obviously, he has very good eyes.
He's got very good vision, which I assume you have to have in that particular work.
But he took aim very quickly.
This is the most Trump has ever talked about this in a long time.
It was approximately five seconds from long range, one bullet.
If that didn't happen, because the shooter had a lot of bullets.
He had a lot of cartridges up there with him.
I mean, that's clearly, you know, he was very competent in taking that shot to stop the attempted assassination.
But, I mean, there does seem to be, I mean, some pretty significant failings elsewhere in the system.
Like, there's just no way that, like, how on earth does a shooter get on a roof 130 yards away?
That seems crazy.
People are wondering how on earth could such a thing happen?
It doesn't happen unless you want it to happen.
There should have been nobody on the roof.
There were people, because there were so many tens of thousands of people there.
There were people that were seeing him.
And there was one woman with a red shirt and Trump all over it.
And she's screaming, that guy's got a gun.
You saw it probably.
How long before the show?
I mean, it's like, I'm just, I guess, I mean, for my part, I think probably many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wondering why, pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun.
Yeah. And they're seeing it, but somehow it's not being addressed.
That's bizarre, eh?
How can I learn from this?
The communication between the local police, who sort of had an idea, and then ultimately a man lifted himself up to the roof, could barely do it because he was pulling himself up, and he saw that man with the gun.
30 seconds.
The man with the gun pointed the gun at him.
He thought he was probably going to get shot, but he was pulling himself up.
And because of that, he couldn't get to his gun.
And he fell down, actually very badly hurt his leg, his ankle.
30 seconds.
30 seconds before and nobody did nothing.
From what I understand, he did say there's a guy up there with a gun.
We saw the video.
And the shooting started very quickly after that.
I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker.
You know, it was supposed to be a very good shot.
My son's...
Don and Eric, they can't believe what happened.
But they said from 130 yards, a bad shot would hit that target almost every time.
They said it's like in golf, thinking a two-foot putt.
Yeah, it's not a tough shot.
No, it's not a long shot.
The Secret Service person had the long shot.
He had, you know, triple the distance.
Over the roof.
So, you know, it was a terrible thing.
Look. It was a setup.
It's hard.
I have to say this about the Secret Service.
When I went down, and, you know, I went down based on I think they're screaming, but other people also, because people saw this happen.
This is very interesting right now.
One of the miracles was that nobody ran.
I mean, if a gun goes off, the crowd control people showed us this.
When guns go off, and it does happen in stadiums.
Everybody flees.
They call it a stampede, like cattle.
And a lot of people get killed with those stampedes.
We had more people than you'd have at some of these matches or these games.
Nobody left.
You had a small group behind us in the grandstand, and that was full as it was taking place.
Normally, they'd be running.
They saw a lot of blood, and they saw that I went down, and it's almost like they wanted to be with me.
Well, out front, you had thousands, tens of thousands of people.
As far as the eye could see, you had people in Butler.
As far as the eye could see.
And a lot of press, too.
There were many cameras on watching.
Just clip this part and find it in the audio.
it's so different.
He was pulled down, not even necessarily because of the Secret Service, but because of the crowd response.
Here we have all these cameras shooting it.
So, you know, sort of amazing.
But one of the interesting things was that You didn't have anybody flee.
You didn't have anybody stampede.
Nobody. And there were some people behind me.
They stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, you want to have them in a foxhole with you.
I want to meet some of those people because it's so different from what you heard.
So I was down.
But the Secret Service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head.
You could hear them go whizzing.
And these guys...
Came jumping on top of me.
And a young lady, Kate.
I knew he was going to say it because there was a short lady.
Not anywhere near as tall as Trump.
Let me tell you, that took tremendous courage.
Why would you be there?
There was a lack of coordination.
Obviously, everybody understands that that building should have been covered.
Yeah. I mean, looking at the aerial views, that building would be, like, the number one spot for a sniper.
It's like, if you were to pick, like, what is the favorite place?
So if the goal is to assassinate, what's your favorite spot?
That building.
That building would be number one.
And you watched the video that was just released.
No, that would have been the spot.
You know what people think is when the local policeman, who, by the way, you know, he really, he did what he was supposed to do.
He couldn't hold on any longer.
And then when he got his head just peeking above, this guy's standing there with a gun at his head.
And when he fell down, again, hurt his ankle very badly, but he was making the calls.
But what happened is the firing took place very soon.
So what I think is that this guy ran to his sight, which he had all planned out with a gun.
He ran to the sight and he started shooting fast.
And maybe that's why...
Well, he sort of missed.
He got me, but it could have been a much bigger problem.
Could have been World War III.
But he totally would have hit if you hadn't turned your head.
It was a very near thing.
It was a miracle.
If I hadn't turned my head, I would not be talking to you right now as much as I like you.
Exactly. I would not be talking.
Yeah, that's right.
We'd be talking from a different place.
But it was a very terrible experience.
The Butler Hospital, they did such a great job.
The doctors were so good.
Everybody was so good.
There was a mistake if somebody knew, because people were hearing.
There was just a bad feeling that somebody was around.
You know that story now.
Yeah, yeah.
And if somebody could have said, because they've oftentimes said, you know, like there'd be a lightning storm or something.
Because I've done, I think, over 300.
I think I did a lot more than that.
But we did a lot.
And oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait 10 minutes, please?
Sir, could you wait 20 minutes?
There's a storm overhead.
It's called the holding room.
And that happens often.
And this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened.
But it didn't get coordinated.
That was the problem.
This is what they wanted to see in real time, by the way.
I think your actions in the heat of fire...
What I find admirable there was that you can't fake bravery under such circumstances.
The courage is instinctual or it is not.
It's not a rehearsed action.
And so I just want to say that I think a lot of people admire your courage under fire there.
It could be more often.
This is what the Deep State wanted to see.
I didn't think of it.
I just wanted to get up.
And I wanted to stand up.
I wanted to let people know.
I felt I was good.
When they were on top of me, covering me, actually.
Very much covering me and very bravely.
But I wanted to get up.
I said, I want to get up.
Give me my shoes.
They wanted, you know, they have everything there.
They wanted stretcher.
I didn't like the stretcher.
And I knew I was hit in the year, but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else.
They felt I was hit someplace else because it was such a lot of blood.
And they were sure that I was hit someplace else.
And they were saying, sir, you were hit in more than the year.
I said, nope, I was hit in the year.
I want to get up.
Let me get up.
And so I got up, and the crowd know what to think.
I mean, this was so many.
This is the most important part right now.
And I wanted to let them know I was okay.
This is the most important part.
And they went wild.
They didn't go wild when I got up because they didn't know was I alive.
You really couldn't tell.
When I stood up before the hand, before the fist in the air, they didn't know if I was alive.
Nobody did.
And when I put the fist up, they were just...
Relieved and happy and thrilled.
The place went crazy.
It was pretty amazing.
It was a terrible thing.
It was incredibly moving.
Well, and I mean, speaking of the sort of slide that got you to turn that saved your life, really, was the illegal immigration slide.
Maybe this is worth talking about that.
It was, you're right, the illegal immigration saved my life.
You're right.
but it was great.
You know the incredible thing though when you talk about the odds, you had to be exactly at that angle.
The incredible thing is that the chart, I used it less than 20% of the time.
It was just a moment.
It's always on my left, never my right.
And it's always at the end of the speech.
So here we have it.
It's on the right, not the left.
It's at the beginning, not the end.
And even the people that put it up, they were unprepared.
And they did a great job.
They got it up immediately, fortunately.
But I looked to the right and the bullet came whizzing by, hitting my ear.
So it was amazing.
But when you think of the odds of that...
It's divine intervention.
I'll just say it.
Normally you wouldn't use it.
Normally I wouldn't have the thing.
And then it would have been a very different story.
World War III.
I say an act of God.
It's a miracle that it happened.
And I'm honored by it.
I'm honored by it.
This is why the media doesn't want you listening to this.
What were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted?
Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were.
By the way, we're going back to Butler.
And we're going to go back in October.
We're all set up and we're...
The people are fantastic in Butler.
It's a great area.
These are incredible people.
Like the three that, in the case of Corey Kild and the other two, the families are...
I got to know them a little bit.
And the families are great.
But we're going back to Butler.
And I think I'll probably start by saying, as I was saying, prior to being so horribly interrupted.
So horribly interrupted by an assassination attempt.
No, but the chart, Elon, the chart was just the chart that in my last week we had the best illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping.
It was at the lowest.
You've seen the chart.
It's become quite a famous chart.
But that was the lowest point ever recorded.
It was a really...
I mean, I was very proud of those numbers.
And then you see what happened with these people, Kamala and Joe.
You see what happened.
They just let it go.
I had Remain in Mexico policies.
I had all these different policies that were so good.
Guys like Tom Holman and...
Brandon Judd from Border Patrol.
These are all people that they've been on television.
They said it's the best numbers we've ever had.
We had so many different checks.
Catch and release in Mexico, not the United.
We had catch and release in the United States.
We had it in Mexico.
We had so many things.
We had things where if people, many people come in there, they have contagious diseases.
We had...
Everything passed.
If you have a contagious disease, I'm sorry, but we cannot allow you into the country.
So we were setting literally records, and all I was doing is showing that, and I use it sometimes.
In this case, I'm glad I used it.
I can tell you that.
But there were fantastic numbers.
But I'm going to sleep with that yard always.
I'll be sleeping with that yard.
1.1 million on Twitter.
How many else on ancillary platforms?
Would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but that we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, and especially unbedded illegal immigration?
And that's not the same as saying that everyone who's an illegal immigrant is bad.
In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell the difference unless there's a solid bedding of who comes across the border.
Does that actually represent your position?
I say it very simply.
They have to come in legally.
They have to be checked.
Because look, Kamala was the border zone.
Now she's denying it.
Everything that I do...
Axios called her the border zone.
Axios. Well, she doesn't have to say it.
She could close it up right now.
They could do things right now.
It's horrible.
No tax on tips.
And all of a sudden she's making a speech and there will be no tax on tips.
I said that months ago.
And by the way, they had just the opposite.
You know, they had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents.
And many of them were going to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this.
They have a policy.
They had a policy that they were really going to go after you and were really harassing people horribly.
And then all of a sudden, for politics, she says, you know, she comes out with...
Steals your policy, Trump.
terrible and i think it's also hitting them very hard these people are fake now they're also saying they did a good job in the border we had the worst numbers in the history of the world not of our country there's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like like this.
We've had, I believe Rome did.
If I may just go back.
I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons, from, from mental institutions or a bigger version of that is insane asylums.
And many are terrorists.
And I'll tell you what.
They're coming not just from South America.
They're coming from Africa.
They're coming from all over the world.
They're coming from Asia.
They're coming from the Middle East.
They're coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly bombing Israel October 7th.
They're coming from all over the world.
And, you know, you look at, it's so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.
It's so sad when you look at Ukraine.
It should have never happened.
We have a defective government.
These are defective people.
And they're not people that should be running it.
But where you see it, the best is the border.
Because you have millions of people coming in a month.
And then she gets up and she tries to pretend like...
They're going to fact check on that.
Millions a month.
And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something, but they won't do anything.
It's all talk.
She's incompetent and he's incompetent.
And frankly, I think that she's more incompetent than he is.
And that's saying something, because he's not too good.
She's incompetent and he's just senile.
He was competent.
It's essential to have a secure border.
I mean, you're really not a country unless you have a secure border.
And secure elections.
Absolutely secure elections.
And so it's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country.
I'll talk a little quieter.
you know, our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities.
And, but I, as we were talking about earlier, I think having, um, A legal immigration process that is smooth and efficient and done well.
And I'm speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant.
One way to think of it is, who do you want on your team?
Who do you want on Team America?
And I think we want to just say, okay, we want to let in people who are going to be great contributors to...
To our society and to our economy.
And who do you want on the team?
And it's not to say that...
In my opinion, actually, I'd say probably most of the illegal immigrants are actually good, hard-working people.
That's my opinion.
But some are not.
And you just have this sort of adverse election process where if somebody's...
You know, if somebody has a career in theft or robbery, I don't understand what's taking them so long to get here.
Because we're in such a target-rich environment.
I mean, you know, why aren't more people who have a career in...
You know, bad things coming here sooner because it's, I mean, it's a piece of cake to go rob, you know, houses in LA or New York compared to other parts of the world.
And in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested.
That's right.
I mean, what's happening with crime?
And our police are so good, but they're not allowed to do their job.
But I have to tell you, Ilan, I hate to say it because it's such a downer to say it.
I hate to say it.
I hate it.
But you have a lot of people that just shouldn't be.
I think it's a much bigger number than you think.
They're allowing people from their jails.
And if you were running one of these countries where they're coming from, you would have had all of them.
As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%.
They're taking their drug dealers.
They're taking, frankly, their prisoners.
They're emptying out their prisons.
They're taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they're delivering them to America.
That's what Castro did.
Yeah, well, he did on a much smaller scale.
But this is a massive scale because this is being done worldwide.
But here's what's happening.
Crime all over the world is down.
And wait till you see the numbers that we have.
You know, this is migrant crime.
This is crime that's going to be...
And I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed, where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters and started pulling out the knives and bad things happened today.
But this is happening every day.
These are rough people.
These are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things.
And they're releasing them into our country.
And they're telling them, if you come back, we're going to kill you.
We're going to give you the death penalty or kill you.
So they don't want to come back.
But these are rough people.
These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people.
And it's horrible what they're doing.
And she's in charge of it.
Because now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it.
And she's such a liar because she was called the border czar the first day.
And it was on the headlines of every newspaper.
She's the border czar.
And she never even went there.
She went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is.
You know, she went in and out, I guess, because she was getting a lot of pressure.
Had nothing to do with the problem.
But she was the border czar.
And people can't allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign.
Now she's trying to say that...
She wasn't really involved.
The whole thing is horrible.
She was totally in charge.
She could have shut the border down without him.
He didn't know what he was doing anyways.
He wouldn't have even known what happened.
You could shut the border down.
He wouldn't even know the difference.
But the fact is that she was border czar.
But you don't have to call her that.
She was in charge of the border.
And the border was the worst ever.
Trump is copying me.
It's simply not working.
No, it's horrible.
Whether it's a question of intention or competence, either way...
We don't have a secure border, and we have people streaming over, like, it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times.
And, you know, sometimes you've got to sort of wonder, like, is it real or not?
So, you know, because you see things, you're like, is it real?
So I went to the border at Eagle Pass, and I saw it for myself in Texas, and I was like, okay, it's real.
I'm, like, seeing this in real time.
I actually posted the video, like, just live.
I just flew there one day just to see, hey, is this...
Is this made up or real?
And I'm just seeing people stream across the border.
And I have to say, you know, these people I saw did not look friendly.
You know, so you can look at my video and say, hey, you know, these people look friendly.
I don't look super friendly.
These are people that Elon would not be the same man if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye.
These are rough people.
These are really rough people coming across.
And I know rough people.
And these are people that we don't want in our country.
And, you know, the caravans are coming in, and they're putting...
And who's doing this is the heads of the countries.
And you would be doing it, and so would I. And everyone would say, oh, what a terrible thing to say.
The fact is, it's brilliant for them, because they're taking all of their bad people, really bad people.
I hate to say this, the reason the numbers are...
Much bigger than you would think.
They're also taking their nonproductive people.
Now, these aren't people that will kill you.
We have enough of them.
But these are people that are nonproductive.
Mentally deficient.
They're just nonproductive.
I mean, for whatever reason.
They're not workers or they don't want to work.
Or they're mentally deficient.
And these countries are getting rid of nonproductive people in the caravans in many cases.
And they're also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people.
And they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before.
And I saw an ad just before I got on the air.
I'm walking over here.
And I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security.
Where has she been for three and a half years?
Exacerbating the problem.
I'm sorry.
I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States.
And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it's going to be even worse than it's been for the past three and a half years, I'm not sure we've got a country.
You don't have a country, Elon.
Elon, if they get in, you will have 15 to 60 million people from all over the world.
Not South America only.
You know, we think of South America, China, Russia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Iran, and Mexico.
You know, the four.
But it's not that.
It's everywhere.
They're coming in from everywhere.
And I had to stay in Mexico.
This is a super important point.
Basically, when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from?
It's like almost no one was from Mexico.
It's just the border with Mexico.
But the people coming in, it's...
It's Earth.
China. The rest of Earth.
Iran. Nigeria.
And America is only about 4% or 5% of the population of Earth.
It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything.
We're already overwhelmed, Ilan.
We're overwhelmed.
You had to see the news tonight about New York.
And I love that place.
And what they're doing to it is horrible, what they're doing to it.
And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump.
Okay, then let's focus on Trump, who did nothing wrong.
I complain about a rigged election.
Elon, what's happened is unbelievable.
You have from Africa, from the Congo, they're coming from the Congo and 2020.
Two people came in from the Congo recently and they're murderers and they dropped them.
They drop them.
They take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know, to maintain the jails.
Although they don't do too much maintaining, I can tell you.
But they take them out of jails, prisons.
They take them out and they bring them to the United States.
They deposit them in the United States and say, don't ever come back or you're going to be executed.
And they don't want to come back.
But they won't come back.
But they're coming from Africa.
They're coming from Asia.
They're coming from the Middle East.
They're coming from South America.
They're coming from everywhere.
And there are a lot of really bad ones.
It's just an everywhere on Earth thing, and it's just not possible for the United States to absorb everyone from Earth or even a few percent of the rest of Earth.
It's just not possible.
Well, Elon, we're going to have, just to finish this up, we're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country, and we have no choice.
Otherwise, we're going to have a country, what they've done to our country.
Think of it.
In Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%.
And you would be the same.
I'll tell you what, Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them.
They've gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people.
Their jails are about 50% put into the United States.
Same with other countries.
Some are at 30%, some are at 50%.
They're all different.
But the bottom line is they're all going to be at 100%.
Why wouldn't you put 100% of it?
And they're doing it right now while this third-rate phony candidate...
Don't forget, I beat Biden.
He failed in the debate miserably.
And some people said, oh, gee, it's too bad.
It's too bad he did so badly.
Or I did well in the debate.
Someone actually said this to me.
Wow. One of the people at CNN said that was the greatest debate performance.
I've ever witnessed.
And then two days later, they didn't talk about that.
They just said he was bad.
But that's okay.
That's the way I get treated, and I don't mind that at all.
What I can tell you is this.
We cannot have a Democrat.
We cannot have her.
She's incompetent.
She's as bad as Biden.
She's worse.
She hasn't done an interview since this whole scam started.
And say what you want.
This was a coup.
This was a coup of a president of the United States.
He didn't want to leave, and they said, we can do it the nice way, or we can do it the hard way.
Yeah, I mean, they just took him out back behind the shed and basically shot him.
No, what they did with this guy, and I'm no fan of his, and he was a horrible president.
They're going to quote that.
They're going to clip that, by the way.
They took him on the back of the shed and shot him.
Elon, you're in trouble tomorrow.
The Israeli attack would have never happened.
Or in five minutes.
You would never have attacked Ukraine.
And we'd have no inflation.
And we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess, if you think of it.
That's true.
Inflation, COVID-related maybe.
You take a few of those events away and we have a different world.
We would also have no inflation.
Inflation was caused by oil.
Yeah. I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries can...
You know, thinking about invading or doing bad things, when they're thinking about that, they're thinking about, okay, what's the American president going to do?
And do they fear the American president?
Or is it someone they do not respect and do not fear?
And I think they do.
They do.
They would.
They do not fear Joe Biden.
I mean, you know, look at the footage of the assassination.
They're like, okay, you know.
President Trump is like, don't mess with me.
I mean, that's like, whereas people are not going to be, they obviously have not been at all intimidated by Biden, and they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala.
And you have to really think about it in the context of global security.
That's, if the American president is someone that, like, you know, evil dictators are scared of.
That makes a huge difference to the security of the world.
So I had a good relationship with Putin despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax that lasted for over two years.
Just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and Adam Shifty Schiff.
Some just bad people, you know, just sick people.
Schiff is the worst.
Schiff is a sick person.
He's a bad man.
Belongs in jail.
It's hard to believe the whole thing is hard to believe.
You know, they put our country in danger with that stuff, too.
They actually, when they make up stories, then you have to fight your way out of it for a long time.
But I know Putin very well.
I got along with him very well.
He respected me, and it's just one of those things.
And we would talk a lot about...
Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye.
But I said, don't ever do it.
Don't ever do it.
You know, I shut down Nord Stream, too.
That was the big oil pipeline.
The biggest, I think, the biggest pipeline in the world going all over Europe.
I shut it down.
It was natural gas.
Biden came.
And then they say, you know, I loved Russia.
I was a friend of Putin, and I loved Russia.
No. He actually said to me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you as an enemy.
I shut down his pipeline.
The biggest pipeline.
They were looking at that to fund.
And this...
A pathetic president gets in there.
And the first thing he did, one of the early things he did is he shut down Keystone XL pipeline.
That's in Canada, between Canada and the US.
That would have employed 48,000 people, pipeline workers.
Shuts it down.
That was, you know, a massive job that Obama...
Become dependent on 4-0.
I allowed it in my first week.
Because it was jobs and it moved oil.
And by the way, in a much more environmentally friendly way, it's underground.
It's not a truck that catches on fire or a train that catches on fire.
But think of it.
He shut down the XL pipeline, the Keystone XL pipeline.
He shuts that down and he approves the Russian pipeline.
It doesn't make any sense.
I think it's worth emphasizing to listeners the immense importance of whether the United States president is intimidating or not intimidating, and how much that matters to global security.
Because there's some real tough characters out there, and if they don't think the American president is tough...
They will do what they want to do.
Friends and enemies.
I know every one of them.
I know Putin.
I know President Xi.
I know Kim Jong-un of North Korea.
I know every one of them.
And let me tell you, people will say, oh, this is terrible.
He said, I'm not saying anything good or bad.
They're at the top of their game.
They're tough.
They're smart.
They're vicious and they're going to protect their country.
Whether they love their country, they probably do.
It's a different form of love, but they're going to protect their country.
But these are tough people at the top of their game.
And when they see a Kamala or when they see a Biden, Sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it.
They're all waiting for an attack from Iran.
Iran would not be attacking, believe me.
You know, when I was there, and I say it...
With respect, because I think we would have been good with Iran.
I don't want to do anything bad to Iran.
But they knew not to mess around.
Iran was broke because they told China, if you buy from Iran oil, it's all about the oil.
And then who released $10 billion to Iran?
But if you buy oil from Iran, you're not going to do any business with the United States.
And I meant it.
And they said, we'll pass.
They didn't buy oil.
Other countries, likewise.
And then who released billions?
And they were at a point where they had no money for Hamas.
They had no money for Hezbollah.
They had no money for any of these instruments of terror.
And it was amazing.
In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe, actually, especially when you look at what's happened to our country.
Our country is so bad right now.
It's such a different place.
We were respected.
Think of it.
Four years ago, we were so respected to a point where...
When I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil.
But they had no money.
And Israel would have never been attacked.
Zero chance.
And again, I said to Vladimir Putin, I said, don't do it.
You can't do it, Vladimir.
You do it.
It's going to be a bad day.
You cannot do it.
And I told him things that what I do.
And he said, no way.
And I said, way.
And you know, it's the last time we ever had a conversation.
I got along well with him.
I hope to get along well with him again.
You know, getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing.
I got along well with Kim Jong-un.
When I met with President Obama just before entering, you know, it's sort of a ritual.
And I sat down with him and we talked.
It was supposed to be for a very short period of time.
It turned out to be a long period of time.
I said, what's the biggest problem?
He said, North Korea.
I had that problem worked out very quickly.
It was nasty at the beginning with Rocket Man and all the different things.
All of a sudden I got a call.
Those were some epic tweets, by the way.
No, they were epic everything.
He said that he has a red button on his desk.
I said, I have a red button on my desk too, but my red button is much bigger and my red button works.
And then I called him Little Rocket Man of Little Rocket Man.
Anyway, here's the bottom line.
all of a sudden I got a call from them and they said they want to meet they want to meet me and we met yeah as you remember we met in Singapore we met also in Vietnam and uh I got along with them great we were in No danger.
But President Obama thought we were going to end up in a war.
A nuclear war with him.
And let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear stuff, too.
He's got plenty of nuclear.
He can do plenty of damage.
Yes, I mean, it's because...
You know, I mean, people like Kim Jong-un, they respond to strength, not weakness.
He and I had a good relationship.
Remember I met him and we walked onto his land.
Nobody ever walked onto his land before.
I walked onto his land.
I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that.
I walked onto his land.
1.2 million in the space, it says.
Amazing. It was an amazing period.
But we were not in danger with him because of me.
You know, I always say that we have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside.
We have some really bad people in our government.
And people that are controlling the people.
I mean, I mention names, but I really don't want to give them that.
Name it.
Do it, Trump.
And I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China.
If you have a smart president, a president that gets it.
We are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help.
I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden, and Bush to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together.
And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align.
But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea.
It's the quadrufecto.
In the old days, you had the access of evil.
Here we have a modern-day access of evil.
These are powerful countries.
With nuclear weapons.
Which is the biggest threat.
You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean is going to rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 400 years.
It's nuclear.
And you'll have more oceanfront property, right?
The biggest threat is not that.
The biggest threat is nuclear warming.
Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power.
We have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden.
You know, Biden did something with Russia.
There was no chance of him ever going in.
And then after I left, they started forming big armies on the border with Ukraine, right?
And I looked at that, and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator.
I thought he was doing that to negotiate.
But then Biden started saying such stupid things.
For instance, He said that it can be a NATO country.
Now, Russia, for as long as there's been NATO, has said we're never going to agree to that.
And we go right up front and say that.
And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ.
He had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have an IQ at all.
There's nothing on the board that goes as low.
conversations in eight on ten.
That were so stupid that that war would have been, that war had zero chance of happening if I were there.
Zero chance.
He was saying everything the opposite.
It's a hypothetical that can never be disproven, so I It's so sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about.
You don't read about how bloody it is.
150,000. Hey, look, just in the two armies, you lost a half a million people.
And Ukraine's having a hard time.
Ukraine, I don't know if you saw the article recently, and you don't hear the true story, but if you think about it, Russia defeated Germany with us, and they defeated Napoleon.
They win wars of attrition.
They win wars of attrition.
It's very unfair.
And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men.
They're now using young men and very old men to fight.
And trans men.
We're in a very bad position.
And I'm not going to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could have stopped that.
And a smart president could have stopped that.
It wouldn't have happened.
It would have avoided it.
But we had a man that actually made it more prevalent.
It was so bad.
The words that he was using, the stupid threats coming from a stupid face.
Victoria Nuland is the devil.
I said, this guy's going to cause us a war.
He's going to cause us...
And let me tell you, it can lead to World War III.
That can lead to World War III.
We're already in it.
We have numerous places that could end up in a World War III right now for no reason whatsoever.
There is a reason.
They want it before November.
I think you'll underrate the risk of World War III.
When looking at the risk of global thermonuclear warfare, it's game over for humanity.
You know, it's something that people have, I think, after the end of the Cold War, people have become complacent about.
But they actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles that have targeting parameters for the United States from other countries.
And one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an Iron Dome over us.
You know, Israel has it.
We're going to have the best Iron Dome in the world.
We need it.
And we're going to make it all in the United States.
But we're going to have protection.
Because it just takes one maniac to start something.
We're going to have protection.
One dirty bomb in Europe.
Why shouldn't we have an Iron Dome?
Israel has one.
Good point.
Who's funding the one that Israel has, Trump?
But Israel has it.
We're going to have an Iron Dome.
But, you know, with all of that being said, to me that's so important, the most important.
But with all of that being said, the election's coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.
The inflation has killed them.
Food prices are up 50, 60, even 100% in some cases.
And this stupid administration allowed this to happen.
And it's a shame.
And that's the thing that people most care about, in my opinion, they care about the border a lot and we discuss the border at great levels.
It's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss.
you.
Neither could Kamala.
No, they could not.
They don't need Elon screaming out quick.
It's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview.
And in her case, with a very friendly interview.
She's got all friendly interviewers.
It's pretty sad.
But the big thing now is the economy, Elon.
And as much as I view Jupiter as the single most important thing, but a lot of people don't understand that.
It doesn't have to.
If I understand it, just sort of.
The thing that really is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy.
It's a disaster with inflation.
The inflation doesn't matter what you make.
The inflation is eating you alive.
If you're a worker...
It's a hidden tax.
Inflation is a hidden tax.
You can't afford.
Four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money.
Today, they're using all their money and borrowing money just to live.
And the interest rates.
Tell them about the interest rates.
And we'll end that point.
A lot of people just don't understand where inflation comes from.
Inflation comes from government overspending, because the checks never bounce when it's written by the government.
So if the government spends far more than the money's supplying, and if the money's supplying, that's inflation.
So really, we need to reduce our government spending, and we need to reexamine.
I think we need a government decision to say, like, hey, where are we spending money that's successful?
Where is it not?
Who's going to cover that government?
We're currently adding, I think, a trillion dollars to the deficit every hundred days.
The interest payments on the national debt have now exceeded the defense budget.
It's on the order of a trillion dollars.
It's interesting.
And it keeps growing.
I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military, did a great job on it, which was so important.
You know, we had jets, we had fighters that were, and bombers that were 70 years old.
We did a great job in that.
Then we, by the way, then we gave 85 billion of it back to Afghanistan, if you can believe it.
We gave them 85 billion.
You know, they're one of the largest dollars of military equipment in the world.
Did any of those weapons end up in October 7?
That was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country.
But if you think about, let's go back to the economy.
We have to bring energy prices down.
Energy started at the price of gasoline.
Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline.
And you do make a great product, I have to be honest with you.
That doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car, but your product is incredible.
But the gasoline, Elon, is the cost of energy.
Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house.
That has to come down.
It's gone up 100%, 150%, and 200%, and that has to come down.
When that comes down, and we're going to drill baby drill, you know, they stopped drilling, and then they went back to drilling, because they went back to the Trump policy.
But if they won, the day after they get into office...
This country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable.
Wind and different things, you're not going to have anything.
And I know you're a big fan of the AI.
And I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything.
So we're going to have to build a lot of energy.
If our country will be competitive with China, because that's our primary competitor for this, on the AI, you're going to need a lot of electricity.
You're going to need tremendous electricity, like almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.
Sure. Well, just back to this basic thing, which people try to make it sound complicated, but it's not.
But inflation is caused by government overspending.
Would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that just tries to make the spending sensible so that the country lives within its means, just like a person does?
The waste is incredible, and nobody negotiates prices.
You used to have a lot of people making jets, and you end up with two companies, and they'll probably try and merge at some point.
I mean, I went through it.
Like Air Force, just a thing like Air Force One.
One of the first documents they asked me to sign in general, I said, sir, will you please sign this document?
What is it?
Air Force One.
That's with Boeing, which is basically two planes, two 747s.
And the price was $5.7 billion for two planes.
Now, they're highly sophisticated.
They're even nicer than your plane, okay?
But much more sophisticated.
I won't say what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff on it.
Anyway, but it's 5.7.
That's a crazy number.
But I said, I'm not going to pay 5.7.
I'm not going to do it.
I said, who made the deal?
Obama and his people.
I said, well, then I know the deal's no good.
I'm not going to do it.
And over the course of about four weeks, by my saying I'm not going to do it, I got the price reduced by $1.6 billion for the exact same plane, other than we had a nicer paint job, if you want to know the truth.
But for the exact same plane, I saved one.
And I said to Boeing, You guys must make a lot of money if you can reduce the price by that.
But now what I do hear is that they're going back to the Biden administration and wanting big cost overruns because they see these dopey suckers in there and they'll end up getting some of the money back.
But I shaved it by $1.6 billion for the exact same plan.
And you can now take that and multiply that out times thousands of other items.
The numbers are astronomical.
I agree with you.
Well, I mean, I think it would be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and just ensures that the taxpayer money, the taxpayers' hard-earned money is spent in a good way.
And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission.
I'd love it.
If it were foam.
Well, you, you're the greatest cutter.
I mean, I look at what you do.
You walk in and you just say, you want to quit?
They go on strike.
I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, that's okay, you're all gone.
You're all gone.
So every one of you is gone and you are the greatest.
You would be very good.
Oh, you would love it.
But, you know, if you look at our...
I'd be happy to help out.
By the way, congratulations.
I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat.
We'll call it a chat.
But congratulations.
This is very good.
I mean, it's great.
And you're an interesting character.
You know, the new head of a place called Argentina.
And he's a big, you know, he's great.
And he's a big MAGA fan.
You know that.
He ran on MAGA.
And he took it to an extreme, too.
He ran on MAGA.
And I hear he's doing really a terrific job.
It's called Make Argentina Great Again.
It worked out perfectly.
He came and he bought a lot of hats he brought over.
But he's doing a big job.
He really cut.
And I'm hearing they're starting to do pretty well.
Inflation's getting down.
You know, they had like 2,000%.
They had inflation like not normal inflation.
They had the real deal.
We're going to have that pretty soon.
I think we have the worst inflation we've had in 100 years.
They say it's 48 years.
I don't believe it.
I think we have the worst.
They don't include a lot of the items that should be included.
It's just from government overspending and just not spending taxpayer money effectively.
And having so many departments, you can't even name them all.
Malay is doing.
He's cutting government spending.
He's simplifying things.
He's putting in regulations that make sense.
And Argentina overnight is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity.
But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
I think in the 30s, 40s.
And because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.
And if you take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous.
They have phenomenal reserves of everything, oil, everything.
And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people.
And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking our prosperity for granted because with bad government policy, we can run the country to the ground.
And that's just something people should bear in mind.
Don't take prosperity for granted.
Well, think of education.
So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40. We're ranked number 40, number 38. Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, different countries are ranked.
Actually, China's pretty close to the top.
There are top six or seven.
But we're ranked at the bottom, almost at the bottom, 38, 39, 40. In other words, horrible.
And yet we spend more people than any other country in the world.
So we spend more.
And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk.
I need somebody that has a lot of strength and courage and smarts.
I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the States.
We're states like Iowa.
We're states like Idaho.
You know, not every state will do great.
Because states that basically aren't doing good now, you look at Gavin Newsom, the governor of California.
He's terrible.
He does a terrible job.
So he's not going to do great with education.
But of the 50, I would bet that 35 would do great.
And 15 of them...
You know, 20 of them will be as good as Norway.
You know, Norway is considered great.
You can name them.
I mean, they're just so good.
Some of these countries are so good.
But if you go into some of these really well-run states, you know, we have states that don't know what debt is.
We have states that have low taxes, no debt, everybody working.
You know, they're really well-run.
And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location, in terms of, you know, the land or the sun.
The sun and the water and the whole thing.
You know, there are a lot of advantages to some people.
But if you moved education back to the 50, you'll have some that won't do well.
But they'll actually be forced to do better because it'll be a pretty bad situation.
But if you think about it, you'll have some of these states.
I'll bet you'd have 30, 35 states.
It'll be much better.
And you know what it'll cost?
Less than half what it is in Washington.
And these people don't care about the students in these, you know, faraway states.
And it would be unbelievable.
Yeah. I think you're making a good point in that if the states have to, if each state has to compete against other states, then people will naturally move to states where it's better.
Just don't import your stupid policies that you fled from.
It's a badly run state.
I could go through it.
I got so many friends that...
Even if they're Democrats, I hate to mention certain states, but Illinois is badly run with Pritzker.
He's a real loser.
But, you know, some of these places are just badly run.
But, you know, it's almost going to force them to run better.
And they won't do good initially, but you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now.
And I would say that the cost, you would cut your cost by 50 or 60 percent.
And you'd have a little monitor.
You know, you want to make sure they're teaching English, as an example.
You know, give us a little English, right?
Sure. I mean, some of these governors are doing so badly.
I mean, they've got so many people moving out of their state.
They should get U-Haul Salesman of the Year award because they're driving so much U-Haul.
It's actually amazing.
People move it out.
Isn't it amazing to you as a businessman that they can even survive, like Illinois?
So many people are leaving and you wonder, how do they survive?
I mean, how do they survive?
I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas.
Texas does a great job.
But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas.
How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses?
And their taxes are already really high.
You know, the taxes are among the highest taxes.
You almost wonder, how do they continue on?
And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job in their crime-ridden places.
You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?
It's not a good situation.
I mean, I think the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government.
That's a big issue.
You remember the area in California where they had that, where I guess somebody had sticky fingers and they sold a lot of money, and they went into a form of chapter, and it was very nasty for a period of time, but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California.
So, you know, at some point, something like that may have to happen.
But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker.
Look, the family didn't want him in the family business.
And then he ends up being governor of Illinois.
So, you know, is he going to be a great governor?
And, you know, you have people.
I could name every one of them.
I got to know every one of these.
And some are very good and some are just horrible.
Well, I think that larger point here, as you're saying, a lot of people are concerned about the economy.
A lot of people are concerned about inflation.
And inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money.
And for people that are working day-to-day, it's just a form of taxation.
And if we can solve the government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will have a better standard of living.
And that's a really big deal.
Well, the people that got hurt and worse are the people that...
Did it the way they were taught to do it all through their younger life and their young life and their whole life.
The people that saved money and then they got no interest on their money and inflation destroyed them.
And frankly...
They were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.
I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated, and we're going to bring those people back and help those people.
We've got to get the prices down.
You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when you look at some of the food products and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it.
They used to be able to buy a whole cart, and today, you know, a lot of people just don't...
Have the money.
They go in and they can't buy anything.
They look at...
It's sticker shock.
They call it sticker shock, right?
I think it really just comes down to, I guess, really two things, which is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves the level of the average person.
And then if you deregulate, like have sensible regulations, because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason.
But unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we hadn't really.
During your administration, we made some progress, but I think the opportunity to make, I think, radical progress with sensible regulation.
And if you're on those.
We set a record.
We did more deregulation and more We had the best economy ever, maybe, in the world.
And then what happened is COVID came in, and we had to focus on that.
And nobody knew what it was.
And I always say, I got good...
COVID was a sigh of...
We knocked out ISIS.
We did so many different things.
We rebuilt.
But, you know, I never got the credit that we really deserved on what we did with COVID.
We never got the credit.
But we were...
Had that not happened, the gift from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan...
It wasn't a gift from China.
We said it and it turned out to be right.
But had that not...
Had that not happened, we were set to start reducing debt.
We were going to reduce taxes further.
I gave the largest tax cuts, and we were going to reduce taxes still further for middle-income people, not only businesses.
But we did it for businesses because they're the ones that, that's why we had the great job numbers.
But we were set to really start reducing debt.
And, you know, we're sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than Russia.
And we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money.
We were going to supply Europe with oil.
Supply America with oil.
And we were going to supply them with oil and gas.
We were going to make a fortune.
And then the COVID came in and we really had to divert it.
Then what happened is when they came in, you know, we kept a lot of businesses alive.
If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929 type depression.
But the problem is when Biden came in.
He got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly.
You didn't need it anymore.
We got over that bad period where everybody was dying and it was just not a good period.
Interestingly, during his administration, many more people died during his administration of COVID than during my administration.
And we really got the brunt of it.
But people don't realize more people died during his administration than ours.
But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.
But we had the greatest for almost three years.
We had the greatest.
And you know that probably better than anybody.
So many of your friends said to me the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years.
And also said that African-American, Hispanic-American were so incredible.
They were having the best Asian American women, men, And everybody was happy.
And then COVID came and we had...
The problem is they spent trillions and trillions of dollars.
They wasted.
They shouldn't have taken any money and we wouldn't be having inflation right now, which is killing our country.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on, you know, climate change and oil and gas, because I think I probably...
Different from what most people would assume.
Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry and the people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy to support the economy.
And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now...
We would all be starving and the economy would collapse.
So I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry.
And the world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better if the United States provides that than Saudi Arabia or Venezuela.
And it would help with prosperity in the US.
And at the same time, obviously, my view is we do, over time, want to move to a sustainable energy economy because eventually you do run out of oil and gas.
It's not infinite.
And there is some risk.
I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming.
But I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe.
People don't realize this.
If you go past 1,000 parts per million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea.
And so we're now in the sort of 400 range.
We're adding, I think, about roughly two parts per million per year.
So, I mean, it still gives us – We still have quite a bit of time.
So we don't need to rush and we don't need to stop farmers from farming or prevent people from having steaks or basic stuff like that.
Leave the farmers alone.
I agree.
How crazy is that?
I mean, you have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole world is a little crazy.
But it's largely taken its lead from us.
I do say, though, I've heard...
In terms of the fossil fuel, because even to create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants.
So you sort of can't get away from it at this moment.
I mean, someday you might be able to.
But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left.
Much of it hasn't even been found yet.
Yeah. But there are tremendous, like Anwar.
I got Anwar in Alaska approved.
Ronald Reagan couldn't do it.
Nobody could do it.
Everybody tried.
Nobody could do it.
I got it approved.
The first thing that Biden did was unimprove it, to get rid of it.
Unimprove it.
He ended it.
His secretary went in and she ended it.
And what a disgrace.
That's Anwar.
That's bigger, or they think it could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska.
It could be bigger than Saudi Arabia.
But they went in and they terminated it, and I'll get it going very quickly, because not only is it big for Alaska, I mean, you talk about economic development, that for the United States, I mean, that is, they say, bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size, and pure, really good stuff.
And, you know, they end it.
So I think we have, you know, perhaps hundreds of years left.
Nobody really knows.
But during that time, some people will come around that will be very good.
Yeah. Well, I mean, my estimate would be, you know, a little more aggressive than that.
But it's not the sort of, like, we're all going to die in five years stuff.
That's obviously BS.
But, I mean, my view is, like, if you just look at sort of the posthumillion...
That increments every year.
You know, you get sort of two or three plus a million every year of CO2.
I mean, I think it's problematic if it accelerates, if you start going from two or three to, say, five.
And then there may be some situations where you get just a step change increase in the CO2.
And I think we don't want to get...
Too close to 1,000 ppm because that actually makes it uncomfortable to breathe.
Just existing in 1,000 ppm CO2 is uncomfortable.
That's considered an industrial hazard.
You start getting headaches and stuff.
Even without global warming, it's not comfortable.
We don't want to get too close to that.
I think we've got...
I think we want to just move over.
And if, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're mostly sustainable, I think that'll probably be okay.
So it's not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards.
And on balance, it's probably better to move faster than slower.
But like I said, without vilifying the oil and gas industry and without causing hardship in the short term, I think this can be done without, you know, people can still have, you know, a stake and they can still drive gasoline cars.
You know, it's okay.
It's like, it's not, I don't think we should vilify people for it, but I think we should just...
Just generally lean in the direction of sustainability.
And I actually think solar is going to be a majority of us energy generation in the future.
And it's certainly trending that way.
And so you get the solar power.
Mind that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night.
And then you use that to charge the electric cars.
And you have a long-term sustainable solution.
And, you know, that's what Tesla's trying to move things towards.
And I think we've made a lot of progress in that regard.
But when you look at our cars, we don't believe that environmentalism, that caring about the environment should mean that you have to suffer.
So we make sure that our cars are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast.
You know, sexy.
I mean, they're cool.
In fact, literally, I made this sexy joke.
Model S, Model 3, Model X and Y spells out sexy.
It's probably the most expensive joke out there.
But, you know, I just, I don't know.
I like cheesy humor, you know.
But I'm a big fan of, like, let's have an inspiring future.
And let's work towards, you know, a better future.
And we can do so without demonizing.
Right. I'm okay.
You know, it's very interesting.
You used the word global warming, and today they used the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up, and so they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming.
Some places are going the opposite direction.
But, you know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars.
It just seems like something that at some point you will come up with.
I'm sure you'll be the first.
But it would seem that a solar panel on the roofs, you know, on flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good, at least in certain areas of the country or the world where you have the sun.
But I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting.
But, you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change, but they never talk about nuclear warming.
And for me, that's an immediate problem, because you have, as I said, five countries where you have major nuclear, and probably some others are getting there, and that's very dangerous.
That's where you need a strong American president, because you don't want to have this proliferation.
But you have five countries and getting more.
You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us sooner than people think.
They're way lower.
Russia and us are number one, and we're sort of tied.
And China is far behind, but they're developing at a level that, you know, you're not surprised to hear very fast.
I have to go put a kid to bed.
I'll be back, but enjoy listening.
I apologize.
I've got to be back in a second.
To me, the big problem is the nuclear power, the power.
It's so good.
Nuclear is so great.
And when I talk about World War III, I will.
But the truth is that you have to because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other.
This is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever seen before.
Yeah, actually, there's the bad side of nuclear, which is a nuclear war, a very bad side.
But there's also, I think, nuclear electricity generation is underrated.
And it's actually, you know, people have this fear of nuclear.
Nuclear electricity generation, but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.
It's just a huge misunderstanding.
And if you look at the injuries and deaths caused by, say, I mean, I'm not going to try to pick on coal mining, but just any kind of mining operation.
And there's a certain number of injuries and deaths per year.
You compare that to nuclear, nuclear is actually way better.
So it's underrated as an electricity source, and I think it's something that's worth reconsidering.
But there's so much regulation that people can't get it done.
Maybe they'll have to change the name.
The name is a rough name.
There are some areas, like when you see what happened in Japan, where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3,000 years. Did you ever see that?
In Russia, where they had the problem, where they...
There's a lot of bad things happened, and they have a problem.
And they say that in 2,000 years, people will start to occupy the land again.
You realize it's pretty bad.
No, that's not true.
But you're right about it.
It's amazing.
It's actually not that bad.
So after Fukushima happened in Japan, people were asking me in California, are we worried about a nuclear cloud coming from Japan?
I'm like, no, that's crazy.
It's not even dangerous in Fukushima.
I actually flew there.
And ate locally grown vegetables on TV to prove it.
And I donated a solar water treatment system for a water treatment plant.
Yeah, but you haven't been feeling so well lately and I'm worried about it.
No, no, but I'm only kidding.
It's fine, you know.
It's like, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but now they're like full cities again.
So it's really not something that...
That's right.
It's not as scary as people think, basically.
Let's see.
I mean, are there some other topics we should touch on?
You know, like lawfare, I think we need to be concerned about.
What they've done to this country.
Obviously. Yeah.
Well, we just won the big case in Florida.
This was a Biden administration, did something that's never been done in this country, and that's go after their political opponent, me.
With this nonsense and just nonsense.
In the big case in Florida, we won.
But they always pick a judge and a jury.
And they use the local DAs.
They use the local attorney generals like Fani.
You know, Fani.
Spelled F-A-N-I, Fani.
And it's all a big hoax.
And it's all run from there.
Like in Manhattan, one of the top people from the Justice Department went in and ran Manhattan, ran the state.
The Letitia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice, Biden.
They've never done this before, and they set up a very bad precedent.
It's called lawfare, warfare.
It's a terrible thing, and never happened in our country.
It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened.
And the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up, because people see, you know, fortunately I have a platform.
Like you, or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this, where I can talk about it and people understand.
I mean, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted because you're fighting for election integrity.
And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore.
So what happens is, after their political opponent, me, now Biden's, you know...
Close to vegetable stage, in my opinion.
I looked at him today on the beach, and I said, why would anybody allow him?
The guy could barely walk.
Why would anybody allow him?
Does he have a political advisor that thinks this looks good?
He thinks this looks good because it looks so bad, and it's ridiculous.
And he's been doing that for a long time.
He can't lift the chair.
The chair weighs about three ounces.
It's meant for children.
And old people to lift.
And he can't lift it.
The whole thing is crazy.
It's clearly like we just don't have a president.
You don't have a president.
And she's going to be worse than him.
Because she is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco.
And then as Attorney General, she destroyed California.
You talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all.
There's nothing better than California.
She has destroyed that.
She was the original DA.
She was the original in San Francisco.
She was the original Attorney General in California.
What she has done to California is...
Well, you know better than I do.
You just left California for a lot of those reasons.
And what she's done with crime, with cashless bail...
Well, you kill somebody.
I mean, we have states that you kill somebody and they let you out right away.
I mean, you don't have to put a kid to bed.
I'm going to let this play.
They kill again.
And then they let them out again.
My mother-in-law is going to be sleeping in this room.
Our country is becoming a very dangerous place.
It is.
And she is a radical left San Francisco liberal.
She is.
And now she's trying to protect.
Now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump.
Yes. Tough on the border.
No tax on tips.
I'm listening.
I'll be back in a bit.
Right now.
You want to release all the prisoners that are in detention.
And some of these guys are really bad.
That just came out today.
She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the walls work.
Walls and wheels.
You know, in your business, everything you do is obsolete.
Not the tunnels.
But everything is obsolete.
Even your rocket ships.
Like a month later, they're obsolete.
You find a better way to...
The only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel.
And the wall, you know, I built hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had such good numbers.
I was going to add 200 miles.
We bought it.
We could have flipped it up in three weeks, and they sold it for five cents on the dollar.
That meant, I said, wow, that means that they actually do want to have open borders.
She wants to have open borders.
And now she's going like she's tough on the border.
It's such a lie.
Yeah, this is simply not true.
This is simply not true.
No, and everybody knows it's not true.
It's a disgrace that she can say it.
No, I mean, obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far, far left.
Worst than Bernie Sanders.
She is considered more liberal by far.
Then Bernie Sanders.
She's a radical left lunatic.
And if she's going to be our president very quickly, you're not going to have a country anymore.
And she'll go back to all of the things that she believes in.
She believes in defunding the police.
She believes in no fracking.
Zero. Now all of a sudden she's saying, no, I really want to see fracking.
If they got in, the day she got in, she'll end fracking.
And by the way, if people didn't think that...
The lunatics that really believe in that, they won't vote for her.
You know, like the Palestinians and Israel.
She is so anti-Israel.
And she's bad for both.
Biden actually did something that was impossible.
Both sides hate him.
You know, both sides.
That was a hard thing to do.
Unification. Yeah, no, no.
I mean, you know, Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House sitting, and I was there, and Kamala stood him up.
You know, what does that say?
I think it's highly disrespectful.
And I say, if you're a Jewish person or if you believe in Israel, if you're a person that, you know, is very pro-Israel, if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden.
And Biden was bad.
But if you vote for her, you ought to have your head examined.
And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets.
You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it, but their shield that they built, that can be swamped.
We'll use the term that's appropriate, swamp.
But they swamp it by shooting enough missiles.
You know this better than anybody.
By shooting enough missiles, they can't defend themselves.
You know, they just obliterate the whole place.
And that's what some people think they're looking to do.
And we have no leadership.
There's no respect for the United States of America with these people.
And I'm telling you, you'll be worse than him.
Because he's a believer in being radical left, and he wasn't.
I think you're right.
It's important for the public to look at Kamala's track record before the last month and say, is that a track record you agree with?
And I think if you're an independent moderate, you definitely would not agree with it because it is her behavior has been far left.
And we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala is moderate when she, in fact, is not moderate.
Well, her running mate approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay?
Now, that's all I have to hear.
Tampons in boys' bathrooms.
And that means she believes in that, too.
I mean, she picked this guy.
Because he was the closest to her.
A lot of people thought she'd pick sort of the opposite, but she picked an anti-Israel, radical left person.
But she is far worse, they say, than Bernie Sanders.
If we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president, I don't think our country can survive.
I think we're in massive trouble, frankly, with the Kamala administration, and that's my honest opinion.
And I think really it's essential that you win for the good of the country for this election.
I'm just stating my opinion.
Now, you may have seen this, but I got a letter from the EU Commission saying to not have disinformation during this discussion that we're having.
And there's a lot of attempts to Well, I know the European Union very well.
They take great advantage of the United States in trade, as you know.
We, through a different forum, NATO, we protect them.
And yet, if you build a car in the United States, you can't sell it in Europe.
You just can't sell it.
It's impossible.
The same thing with our farmers.
Our farmers find it very difficult to do business.
You know, we have a deficit with them of $250 billion, which people don't know.
It sounds so nice to the European Union, but let me tell you, they're not as tough as China, but they're bad.
And I let them know it.
And that's probably why they notified you.
No, they don't treat our country well.
We defend them.
With Ukraine, so we're in for $250 billion, and they're in for about $71 billion, and they have the same size.
If you add up the European nations in terms of an economy, it's about the same size, wouldn't you say, as us.
And they're in much greater risk.
They're right there.
We have an ocean separating us from...
In this case, the enemy would be Russia.
It used to be for the Soviet Union, but let's assume they're close enough.
What happens is they're in for 70-something million, I think even less than that, billion.
And we're in for about 250 billion, and it could be a lot higher than that.
And I say, why aren't you going to equalize?
Why aren't they paying what we're paying?
And it's much more important for them because of the fact that they're right near there.
I mean, they're all sort of in that location.
We're not.
And I did it with NATO.
There were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time.
And the United States was subsidizing NATO.
Tremendously subsidizing NATO.
And I said...
I went in and I said, you've got to pay up.
If you don't pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer.
I took a lot of heat.
But you know what happened?
Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in.
I think a lot of the public isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of the NATO expenses.
And then we can take an advantage of on trade.
So think about it.
The point of NATO is defending Europe.
It's like, okay, well, why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe?
That doesn't make sense.
That's unfair.
And that is an appropriate thing to address.
Well, you know, when you talk about cost-cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do because I know it would have never happened.
I know Zelensky, he was very honorable to me because when they went with the Russia hoax...
And they said I had a phone call with him.
He said it was a perfect phone call.
It was a great phone call.
He could have grandstand it and said, oh, he was very threatening.
He said, no, it was a very nice phone call.
I called him up to congratulate him on his win and you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatics.
I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside.
In many cases, the people from within are more dangerous for our country than the Russians and the Chinas.
If you have a smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them.
You're going to make you're going to do things.
Yeah. Now they've taken advantage of us.
I think it's obvious that you're a believer and an advocate of free speech because during your first time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks.
And you didn't try to shut down the media.
You didn't try to...
Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the word out.
Although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it, you know?
Like, we're having a great conversation right now.
Kamala wouldn't have this conversation.
She can't because she's not smart.
You know, she's not a smart person, by the way.
She can't have this conversation.
And Biden, we don't even have to talk about it.
I mean, he couldn't have this conversation.
He would have given up on the first half of a question.
He would have walked out.
He would have said, where am I?
Where am I going?
So anyway, but no, he wouldn't have this.
That's true.
Not a lot of people would have this conversation.
But, you know, we cover a lot of territory.
But the beauty is that we can have a conversation.
I'm able to get it out because I get treated.
This is a really big point.
You can actually have a conversation with you.
And you can't have a conversation with Biden or Kamala.
It's not possible.
This is like talking to an NPC.
So it's just impossible.
But think of it.
We need a man or person who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about.
And I got along with all this.
You know, I got along with Kim Jong-un.
We had dinner.
We had everything.
And he really liked me.
And I got along with him really well.
By the way, he's the absolute boss over there.
You know, a lot of people said, oh, do you think you really...
Let me tell you, I saw things that you don't want to know about.
He is the boss.
But we had a good relationship.
And he doesn't like Biden.
He considers him a stupid man, he said.
He's a stupid man.
Well, at least he speaks his mind.
But, you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed to say it, but I guess you are.
You should be allowed to say that it's true.
But we need really, we need smart people, and we need people that have an ability to lead.
And Xi doesn't have that ability.
Can you imagine?
Now, you know Chairman Xi very well.
Can you imagine her and him negotiating?
Even standing together, the whole concept is ridiculous.
She is terrible.
She's terrible.
But she's getting a free ride.
I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today.
She looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live.
It was a drawing.
And actually, she looked very much like a great first lady, Melania.
She didn't look like Camilla, that's right.
But of course, she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right?
I think part of what people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.
They want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past.
And that America is going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past.
Reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about the future.
They want the American dream back.
They want the American dream back more important than anything else.
It's like, you don't have that today because the people, they've been just sucked.
They see incompetent people running our...
You know, the Biden thing is very interesting.
People just found him to be incompetent.
And when I debated him, I was like, is this for real?
It was...
Yeah, it was just absurd.
But, you know, I think there are like, you know, some...
You know, grand projects that we could do.
I mean, I think, like, you know, we could build a base on the moon.
We could send American astronauts to Mars.
We could build high-speed connections that are, you know, more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities so people have fast transport.
You know, it's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.
You know, we already made great progress in Vegas doing that.
And, you know, and just do things that are exciting and inspiring to make the future feel like it's better than the best.
Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing.
I got to see, I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible.
You know, it's incredible.
And you could do that all over.
You could do that all over.
It's deep.
You don't even need much structure, you know, assuming you're in the right area.
No, it's straightforward.
It's amazing.
I think we could do some things.
China's got incredible high-speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with tunnels, with deregulation, with an ability to actually, where it's legal to actually do the tunnels, then you could have high-speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities.
And that would be something that...
You know, Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world.
That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be an American.
And much safer than surface trains, where there is a danger there, you know, with people, with crazy people.
It's much safer, much better.
And, you know, it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains.
I find it fascinating.
And I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains, they call them, I guess.
And they go unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable, with no problems.
And we don't have anything like that in this country, not even close.
And it doesn't make sense that we don't.
It doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I think also, like, there's, you know, I'm kind of hopping on the excess regulation, but I think something that...
What I think people can generally understand is that what happens with laws and regulations is that there's more and more of them every year.
And unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything becomes illegal.
And that actually slows down the development of new technologies.
I think there's room for some reform at the FDA for improving the speed with which we approve.
Drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives.
I worked very hard on that.
We got that down to the lowest number ever.
And we got therapeutics approved and the FDA that people can't even believe the speed.
But I took them on.
I don't think they like me too much, but I got things approved in the FDA at numbers that they wouldn't believe.
And, you know, it's a very bureaucratic group.
Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases.
I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for regenerons, for so many different things that that were really pretty amazing.
But the FDA takes two.
I got it down to four, and I got some things done very quickly.
It's really something that is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long.
It just takes too long.
You end up in the same with the approval, but it takes years instead of something that could potentially take months and that improves people's lives.
I just wanted to hop on this point that there has to be an active process for...
We're reducing rules and regulations because otherwise they just keep building up every year and you get like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever.
And then we just ossify as a society.
We just can't make any progress.
And that's a really big deal.
Well, you know, Elon, just getting back to the FDA for one second, I got something done called Right to Try.
This is where you can go in and if you're terminally ill, you can use a space-age medicine or whatever it may be.
We have the best doctors, the best labs in the world.
We really do.
But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this product, even if they thought it worked, because it's going through the FDA.
I got it approved where you can basically...
Look, nobody wanted it.
The doctors didn't want it because of the liability.
The country didn't want it.
Our country, because they didn't want to get to it.
These are people terminally ill.
The insurance companies didn't want it and the pharmaceutical companies.
Nobody wanted it.
I got everybody into a room and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued.
And also, they didn't want it on their record.
If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record.
So we set a separate list so it wouldn't count as a negative.
And as you know, we got it done.
We have saved right to try.
They've been trying to get this done for...
58 years.
And it sounds simple, but it wasn't.
Because, you know, I mean, you know, the insurance companies, nobody wanted it.
But we got it done.
Somebody signs.
You sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies, the country.
You're not going to sue anybody.
And we got it done.
And we're saving tens of thousands of lives right to try.
Hopefully you never need it.
But if you do, you don't have to travel to Asia.
You know, people, if they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe.
If they don't have money, they go home and die.
That's what happened.
They'd go home and die.
Well, I mean, actually, to give Europe some props here, it's like if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in the U.S. I mean, they have more regulations than we do.
So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.?
That's crazy.
Well, we did something that really...
They've been trying to do it for 50 years, and they just couldn't get it done, and I got it done.
And it's really something.
But you're right.
Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe.
And it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work.
It's pretty crazy.
Absolutely. You're right.
I think as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons, and these are the risks, and you make your own decision, that makes sense.
Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers.
You've got a lot of people listening.
I hope you don't get nervous because you got a lot of people listening to you right now, like 60 million or something.
What is that number?
It's crazy.
It's amazing how you can see that right away.
What is the number?
Wow. What is it?
Wow. That's bigger than you said.
You said 25, and you're much more than double that number, 25 million.
I think you're going to be 60 or 70. And I guess over a period of time, I congratulate you.
Do I get paid for this or not?
Well, I think actually in terms of the number of people that will hear this conversation over the next few days, two weeks.
It's going to be hundreds of months.
That's what they say.
Yeah, that's good.
Well, look, it's an honor.
But I just ask this.
Are you better off now or are you better off when I was president?
Nobody's better off now.
You know, we put out polls on that and nobody's better off now.
Inflation has killed it.
And, you know, they also feel very unsafe.
You look at what's going on with...
A lot of different things.
You look at the riots we had in the colleges over, I mean, it's ridiculous, but all of the riots, they just feel unsafe.
And now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of crime.
It's called migrant crime.
I call it Biden migrant crime.
Maybe I'll call it Kamala migrant crime.
You know, I mean, with all these things, I always try to get to the ground truth by just asking people.
And, you know, my mom lives in New York and I was like, you know, mom, you know, have any of your friends, you know, been attacked or assaulted?
And she said, yeah, three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just in recent months, just walking around the streets of New York.
And I said, well, what happened to the people that assaulted them?
Oh, nothing.
They got away.
They always get away.
They don't even bother reporting it because they know that there's not...
They're not going to, you know, people are not going to get prosecuted.
They just let, you know, violent criminals out in New York.
The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump.
They prosecute Trump.
Yeah, I mean, it's just obviously messed up.
Oh, it's terrible.
If violent criminals are being, are being getting off Scott 3, and meanwhile, that the, you know, New York spending massive resources prosecuting you.
And it's like, what's this, you know, and I think the sort of sensible public said looks at this and says, what the heck's going on here?
This is obviously abuse of the legal system.
You know, the legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from violent criminals.
And it should be obviously allowing the public to make their own decision about who should be president as opposed to, you know, some, you know, legal case.
Once they start this precedent, because this can go on with the next one, I mean this is a very bad precedent what they're doing.
In terms of going after their political opponent.
And that's all it is.
It's going after their political opponent.
And then you get a judge who's a strong Democrat.
And I'm being nice when I say that.
In many cases, crooked as hell.
But you get a judge and you go into an area where a Republican gets 3 or 4% of the vote.
And, you know, you'll have a jury pool with people that hate Republicans or hate.
It could also be the other way, though, because it could start the other way in areas where they hate Democrats.
And you get into a Pandora's box is a very dangerous thing for this country and a very dangerous thing even for the state.
New York City is New York City and state lose a lot of business over what they did today.
We don't want that to happen to us.
It's no justice system.
You have an unfair system of justice and it's costing New York State.
A tremendous amount of money.
People are leaving and companies are leaving.
And they won't come back.
So, you know, all of that stuff is important.
But the economy now is the big thing.
And we can turn that economy up so fast.
And people are going to be back again.
We're going to get rid of it.
I think there's a lot of opportunity.
Absolutely. And I just want to congratulate you.
You've done an amazing job.
You have definitely got a fertile mind.
You know?
You and I can talk about rockets.
It's kind of you to say thank you.
We can talk about tunnels and rockets and electric cars, so many things.
And now you're into the AI, and that's going to be another beauty, I'll say.
So it's an amazing thing you've done, Elon.
It's an amazing thing, and I congratulate you.
I mean, thank you.
Well, I mean, I just say, you know, here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next.
And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president.
And that's why I endorse you.
Well, I appreciate that.
That endorsement meant a lot to me.
Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest.
Your endorsement meant a lot.
And, you know, we have a phrase, make America great again.
It's pretty simple, but it really says that we want to make America great again.
And we can do it.
We can do it now.
But if we were going to suffer another four years like we suffered for the last four years, I'm not sure the country can ever come back.
That's how bad it is.
It's so bad.
We have to do a lot of things.
I think that's a very real risk.
Yeah, it's a big risk.
That's a very real risk.
And, you know, I'd just like to note to people listening, I've not been very political before.
And if you look at my record, I've actually been – I'm not like – they've tried to paint me as a far-right guy, which is absurd because I'm making electric vehicles and solar and batteries, helping with the environment.
And I actually – I supported Obama.
I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when he was running for president.
What did you learn?
So it's not like I'm some sort of dive-in-the-wool, long-term republic.
I'm actually – I call myself – You know, historically a moderate Democrat, but now I feel like we're really at a critical juncture for the country.
And, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, that Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not.
And obviously, we're just going to see an even further left administration with Kamala.
That's my honest opinion.
I mean, her dad is literally, I mean, she was brought up as an actual, her dad is a Marxist economist.
You can Google it.
I mean, it's not a, we're not making this up, you know.
That's how she was brought up.
I think we're just at this critical juncture and I think this is a case of...
America is going to add a fork in the road.
And I think it will take the path, like you are the path to prosperity, and I think Kamala is the opposite.
I mean, that's my opinion.
I'm going to get attacked like crazy.
I've also experienced quite a bit of lawfare myself.
But I'm just...
Trying to tell people my honest opinion.
And I haven't been really active in politics before.
And I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left.
And so this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump for president.
And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way.
Well, I want to thank you.
You know, I actually always did think of you as somewhat left.
I must say that.
So it's even more of an honor to have your endorsement.
I know how strong you feel about it.
But, you know, when you think of her, San Francisco, 15 years ago, had a great friend, Bob Tish.
He said it's the greatest city in America.
And now it's almost not livable there.
And California likewise.
And she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California.
And she will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her.
And I hope that doesn't happen.
And I hope the elections are going to be run honestly.
They won't be.
We're going to turn this country around.
We're going to do things.
And we can do it fairly quickly.
And we have to get rid of the criminals that have been given to us by other countries as they laugh.
They laugh at us.
They think we're stupid to accept these people.
These are radical, stone-cold killers in many cases.
And terrorists.
And they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands.
And we have to take them out.
Yeah, I mean, if I could summarize it, perhaps, you know, I think these are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities.
We want secure borders.
We want sensible government spending.
We want to restore both the perception and reality of respect in the judicial system.
Just, you know, stop the lawfare.
And I think...
And how are those even right-wing positions?
I think that's just common sense.
Would you agree with that?
100%. I don't understand.
They call it progressive.
They don't like the word liberal anymore, but call it liberal or progressive.
I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country.
And again, I told you, their crime rates all over the world are going way down.
Which makes sense.
In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country, okay?
So we'll go, you and I will go and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela because that's what's happening.
Their crime rate's coming down and our crime rate's going through the roof and it's so simple.
And you haven't seen anything yet because these people have come into our country and they're just getting acclimated.
And they don't know about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement.
And our police, I have to just end with this, we have great police, we have great law enforcement, but they're not allowed to do their job.
They have to be able to do their job without being destroyed.
Absolutely, and it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life to arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes.
And then you arrest a violent criminal, and then the DA, you know, doesn't prosecute, and that's let the guy out.
Well, then, like, why should a police officer risk their life to arrest a violent felon?
Well, even worse, Elon.
Nothing's going to happen.
Even worse, they prosecute the police officer.
They go after him, and they prosecute the police officer, and they take away his pension.
They take away his job.
He loses his family.
He loses his house.
Well, I thought it was very telling, like incredibly telling that, you know, when there was a case where, you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up police officers, I think it was in Times Square in New York, and then nothing happened to those guys.
They were let out, zero bail, and I think a bunch of them were given free tickets to California.
I mean, that is a gross indignity against the United States.
And that's how, I mean, this is insane.
Like, have we lost all pride?
How can such a thing be allowed to occur?
I've never seen anything.
You know, we see where they get shot.
It's a very dangerous profession, but something they're very proud of, and they want to be able to do their job.
But I've seen them get shot.
I've seen a lot of things.
But I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street, everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like punching, stand-up fighting.
A police officer.
There were two of them.
And you had about six of these guys, and they're punching the hell out of them.
And in their own country, they would be dead if they did that.
They'd be shot.
They would be shot instantly.
And, you know, they come from these countries, and it's taking them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country.
But in their own country, if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer, they would be shot.
There's no political correctness.
And it's such a sad thing to see.
And that's the reason you have time, by the way, because we don't do anything about it.
Yeah, we just cannot have a situation where our police officers are beaten up on camera by, you know, a gang of illegal immigrants, and then nothing happens to the guys that beat up the cops.
I mean, and they're let out.
This is...
Unacceptable. We're going to change it and we're going to get them out of the country.
You know, when I first got involved, they said you couldn't get them back to these countries.
You couldn't take them back.
In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, some others, you couldn't get them back.
And I said, really?
Oh, you can't get them back.
Because under Obama, he couldn't get them back.
They'd fly them in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries so you couldn't land a plane.
They'd bring them back.
And the general told me, the generals told me, sir, we can't bring them back.
The countries won't accept MS-13 gang members.
They won't accept them.
And I said, really, how much should we pay these various countries in terms of economic aid, which is also somewhat ridiculous?
And the answer was $750 million.
I said, good.
Tell them they're in default.
They're delinquent.
We're not going to do, we're not paying them anymore because they won't accept it.
And you know what happened?
They all called me, every one of them.
They said...
We would be honored to take them back, sir.
We would be honored.
It was so easy.
But it's one of those things.
And we got them back.
We took in so many.
You know, MS-13 is probably the worst gangs in the world.
They're the most vicious violent.
We took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here.
And their countries took them back.
And because I said, you're not getting any more economic aid.
And once I said that, they were nice.
They wouldn't take them back for Obama.
They wouldn't take them back for anybody.
And now we have a problem because we have this guy and they, again, they don't take him back anymore with Biden because they don't respect him.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's just got to be done.
We just can't have, whether they're citizens or not citizens, we can't have, because they weren't prosecuted citizens either, not just legals.
So you can't have...
You know, repeat violent offenders that don't get incarcerated because they will obviously, by definition, continue to hurt people.
And I think where part of this comes from is that there's...
I do sort of consider myself liberal in some ways.
I mean, it's just that you want to have empathy for people.
Obviously, you want to have empathy for people.
I totally agree with that.
You want to have empathy, but you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals.
And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's actually shallow empathy.
It's not real.
You're not thinking.
You have one layer deep empathy.
You've got to say, if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they going to hurt?
They might kill someone.
They might rape someone.
If you don't incarcerate them, you have to have empathy for the victims.
And there's a lack of empathy for the victims.
Suicidal empathy.
And too much empathy for the criminals.
It doesn't make sense.
That's why you want to have deep empathy.
For society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals.
And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve.
Tools they need.
And we have to let them do their job.
They can do a great job, but we have to let them do their job.
And if we don't do that, it's going to all disappear.
There's never been a society like this where...
You're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.
And I'm talking about violent crime.
And it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people.
And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where...
Because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries.
And I know every one of those guys.
And they're smart people.
And they're streetwise people.
And they really think that the USA is stupid.
They think we're run by stupid people.
And they happen to be right.
But when I was there, we had no problem.
We got them out.
We took out thousands of MS-13 gang members.
We brought them back.
And now, again, it's the same old story.
We don't do it.
And they actually gave them a big increase in aid.
They raised it up to billions of dollars, and they get nothing for it.
So, you know, I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump, and we're going to get this country straight.
And I didn't need this.
I'm like, I didn't need this.
I had a very nice life.
I didn't need this.
To go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run at the same time.
I have to run.
I have to go through fake trials with, in some cases, corrupt judges.
Totally corrupt judges.
I didn't need it.
I had a nice life.
I have great locations.
I have beautiful oceans that I have places.
But I felt it was important.
And if I had to do it over again, you probably think I'm crazy for doing it, actually.
But if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again.
This is so much more important than me or my life.
We're going to save this country.
This country is going down.
And these people are bad people that we're running against, and they're liars.
They make statements.
They do things that are so bad.
They say they're going to make a strong border.
They say they've been great on the border and they've been the worst in history.
Liars. They say they're going to stop crime.
The facts speak for themselves.
It's so incredible.
It's gotten to the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they know nothing's going to happen.
You know, that's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time.
So, you know, it's just, you know, my values, I'm just saying to people out there, like, you know, the things I think are important for the future is like we've got to have safety.
We've got to have safe cities.
We've got to have secure borders.
We've got to have sensible spending.
And we've got to have deregulation so we can have a prosperous future.
And then we want to have some exciting moonshot projects that people get fired up about.
Cure cancer, like Biden.
That's the future I'm looking for.
I'm pro-environment, but I'm not against...
I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're keeping civilization going right now.
But I do think we want to move at a reasonable speed towards a sustainable energy economy.
Those are my values, and I think, you know, and so, I mean, that's – Why I'm supporting you for president, you know?
Well, I appreciate it.
We're going to give incentive to companies to come into our country, not to leave our country.
We're going to be giving tremendous incentives.
We want companies to build here, not to build in other locations.
And we want to create jobs.
Again, it's about the American dream.
You don't hear about the American dream anymore, Elon.
You're the American dream, and it truly says.
But you don't hear about the American dream anymore, and you're going to hear about it.
People, they need that incentive to go out and do it.
And they're going to love their lives.
I mean, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't stand or not.
Any job at all where they have no money, where they literally have no money, and then they end up with violence and lots of other problems.
No, we're going to do some great things.
And I learned a lot in the first.
We had a great economy and all of that.
We rebuilt the military.
We did so much.
But I also learned, and I also learned the best people.
I learned the good people, the smart people, the dumb people, the people that can do things.
You know, you learn.
When I first came in, I tell people I was in Washington, D.C., only 17 times, according to the fake news media.
I was in 17 times.
I never stayed over.
And you don't know people.
You rely on other people to give your names, and then you realize the people you relied on weren't so good.
Now, we had great people, but we also had some where I wouldn't have used them had I known.
Now I know everybody.
And I think we're going to really turn things around fast.
We have no choice, otherwise we're not going to have a country.
I really appreciate this.
To me, it's been a lot of fun being with you.
You're an amazing guy.
You've done an incredible job and a great inspiration to people.
A great inspiration.
And I hope you keep going and just continue to do well.
And we're going to have a big election coming up.
And I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country.
I think that election will be the most important election.
And I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country.
Because if we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody.
It's going to take a long time to find out who wins, Donald.
And I think we need to take the right path, and I think you're the right path.
So I think that's what it comes down to.
Thank you very much, Elon.
It's a great honor.
We'll do it again sometime.
Sooner than later.
I hope you've got a lot of viewers.
I hear you've got a lot.
I know you've got a lot of viewers.
I know you've got a lot of them.
I appreciate it.
I'll see you soon.
Sounds good.
Thank you.
Thank you, Elon.
Thank you very much.
There will not be a post-mortem here.
That's it?
I hope everyone who is watching, I hope everyone who couldn't get it, if they couldn't log on, The Twitter space has ended.
What do I do?
Do I go...
Hold on one second.
Let me just see here.
Do I go with...
I'm going to go with that one right there.
Oh, yeah.
I'm very happy.
I'm very happy.
Thanks for your feedback.
You're responsible to help improve Twitter spaces.
I hope everyone who could not get in on Twitter was able to see that.
I'm going to leave it up, and I hope the audio was good.
Just so you know, I had...
My iPhone balanced on a neuro brain fricking whatever this thing was like this.
This is what you were looking at the whole night into the phone.
My mother-in-law, I will not take a picture of her.
She wants to go to bed.
She's sleeping right in front of me in my home studio.
Our home studio.
My wife, number one neuroscientist in all of Kazakhstan.
Say hi.
Say hi.
Good night.
We're going to say goodnight.
She doesn't know the mic is over here.
She said goodnight.
Okay, I think I got everybody.
There were a few donations.
Viva, the last one here that I think I didn't bring up.
Viva, I'm watching from Australia.
Love your show, but can't watch live all the time.
I'm happy that you were able to escape tyrannical Canada.
I'm going to probably seeking asylum in Russia.
I swore at somebody on Twitter.
Who's the person?
Stevens underscore Ben, who has now blocked me.
Because Stevens underscore Ben...
Oh, I can actually share it.
Hold on.
Now that we're not...
I'm going to share this.
I'm a bad man.
I'm swearing.
That's it.
I'm swearing.
This guy says, it's we the people, not we the corn.
See, if I go like that, it's we the people, not we the corn.
To which I said, F you and wait until you have no corn to eat, A-H.
Those are all swear words.
I said the words.
Then he blocked me, of course.
Everybody wants to judge flyover America, middle America, the one that actually produces the food for New York, LA, Chicago, Detroit, and the other S-H-I-T-H-O-L-E-S's of cities.
That was amazing.
Okay, I'll be live at 12.30.
12.30 is my new time slot on the interwebs.
12.30 daily.
I see it now.
I've got to go walk a dog.
I've got to go squeeze pee-pee out of pudge.
Thanks, sir, says Menbase1, 1230 tomorrow.
My mother-in-law is here for another couple days.
I'm going to go for a bike ride with my wife tomorrow.
But that's it.
Luckily, I think we got this out.
I think everyone found their link into the Twitter space by the time I finally got it.
But for those who didn't, I hope this was useful.
Sorry about the backdrop that you were listening to the entire time.
And now I'm going to go walk a dog.
So, good night, 1230, Monday through Friday.
Viva Fry.
VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
Barnes was doing a bourbon with Barnes tonight.
You might want to go check that out.
Thanks, President Trump's...
Hold on, what does this say?
Thanks, President Trump's...
We're audio system defect.
President Trump's S's.
Oh, he doesn't have an S. He doesn't have a lisp, by the way.
I have the exact same thing.
It's compression on the mic on the phone and it makes it sound like you're saying instead of S's.
How long did he go for?
How long have we been going for?
Two hours?
Just cool.
I'd love to see Kamala Harris do a two-hour Twitter space with Elon.
Love to see it.
Okay. Go.
Enjoy the night.
I'm going to go walk the dog.
And I will see you tomorrow, 1230, Monday through Thursday.
Monday through Friday.
Viva Fry.
VivaBarnesLaw.Locals.com Go.
Good night.
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