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June 27, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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BIDEN v. TRUMP!!! LIVE DEBATE WITH COMMENTRY FROM VIVA & BARNES! BE THERE!!!

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	I know that you can hear me.
	This is comedy gold, courtesy of Vinnie Oceana and the dude in the beige suit.
	I don't know who he is.
	Enjoy the intro video, share the link, spread it around, and we shall have fun tonight.
	Okay, Joe, last one.
	We've been here for a week.
	You got this.
	All right, number one, the dude, convicted felon.
	Say Trump's a convicted felon.
	Over and over.
	Every answer.
	All of them.
	All right.
	Russia, bad.
	Russia's real bad.
	Real bad.
	Ukraine, good.
	Zelensky, more money.
	Billions.
	Billions in Ukraine.
	All right, our border is secure.
	What did he talk about?
	Wide open border.
	What are you, nuts?
	Aliens are cool.
	LGBTQAI+.
	We love the gays.
	Take it enough of them.
	You're gay.
	I'm gay.
	You're gay.
	Okay, all right.
	Hey!
	Don't fall asleep.
	That's number one.
	Give me the adrenaline.
	Give me the adrenaline.
	More?
	Yes, we need more.
	This guy's a freaking passing out ult.
	All right, Joe, wake up.
	Adrenaline shot is ready.
	And boom.
	There we go.
	Daddy likey, huh?
	Daddy likey, huh?
	All right, Joe, focus.
	Continue.
	All right.
	Don't talk incest.
	You didn't shower with your daughter at an inappropriate date.
	You were conserving water for the environment.
	Yeah, you're going green, okay?
	Don't slip and fall.
	Do not slow your words.
	And listen, if Hunter comes up, he's amazing, all right?
	He's the smartest man you know.
	And do not say the N-word, Joseph.
	We're live.
	We can't call it this time.
	I know you love it.
	And guess what?
	If you don't say the N-word, you get a little treat.
	Double stop.
	Double stop Oreo cookie.
	Last but not least, do not.
	Insult Israel.
	Don't you dare.
	You love the Jews.
	You love the Jews.
	I think we're good.
	What's that smell?
	It looks like someone pooped their pants.
	Joseph!
	It's...
	Okay, hold on.
	That is comedy gold, but while I try to appreciate that comedy gold, I'm getting a bad gateway.
	Sign at vivabarneslaw.locals.com, which will be very irritating to me because we are streaming tonight on three platforms, Rumble, Locals, and Twitter as an afterthought, not because I have anything against Twitter, just because it's not the place where we focus our attentions, but I'm not accessing vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Hold on one sec.
	I'm going to see if I can get it on my phone.
	At the risk of immediately jumping to conspiratorial conclusions, I'm going to make sure it's not just my bad connection up in the iron rainbow of commie Canada, although it might be.
	It might be the internet.
	Are we live on...
	Your network just got unplugged, says Ratman29.
	Tonight is the night, says Sad Wings Raging, or replying to...
	Are we, we're good on Rumble.
	That much I know, we're good on Twitter.
	But are we not good on...
	Are we not good on vivabarneslaw.locals.com?
	Hold on, let me just...
	Okay.
	We'll get going.
	You know, while I do that, and while I figure this out, I'll start with the video that I wanted to start with, which is almost as good comedic gold.
	I won't play the entire thing because I think everybody should go watch the original tweet.
	While I figure out what's going on, enjoy this guy.
	His name is Matt Reif.
	And if his comedy is anything like him thinking on his feet in terms of crowd...
	What is it called?
	Crowd...
	Come on, not crowdsourcing.
	Crowd...
	Interactions.
	Save your trap.
	Oh, God.
	What is this?
	Ew.
	Who's was this?
	Can I give this to you, Zach?
	There we go.
	I'm gonna hang that on my wall like a trophy.
	Does anybody have any hand sanitizer?
	Do you really?
	Give me all of it.
	Toss it up here.
	Let me see that.
	There we go.
	Give her that hawk.
	So stupid.
	Thank you.
	You have a gift for me as well?
	Will you give it to security so you don't get in trouble?
	And then they'll give it to me backstage.
	I promise I'll get it after the show.
	Is it him?
	Yeah, give it to security and he'll give it to me later.
	You missing a leg?
	How expensive were these tickets?
	What's your name, brother?
	Joe.
	Pleasure to meet you, Joe.
	What happened?
	Racing motorcycles broke my back.
	Racing motorcycles broke your back.
	What about the leg, though?
	I'm less concerned about the wheelchair.
	I don't know if you noticed.
	You want to say that again, sorry?
	He said I had a pressure sore on my ankle.
	He said go to the hospital and the doctor came in and said, "You got two options.
	"You can keep that leg or lip.
	That's the only explanation he gave you?
	Just two options.
	He didn't say like what the problem was or anything?
	It sounds like he had a quota.
	Okay, I'm going to stop it there because I think I found the problem and I don't want to play the entire clip from Matt Reif.
	But I'll spoil the punchline.
	It had to do with that guy being a very funny man.
	Because when he lost his leg, he said he lost 45 pounds and he got an extra chew toy for his dog.
	And Matt Reif said, have you ever thought about doing comedy?
	I mean, obviously you won't be able to do stand-up.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	It was actually genius.
	Matt Reif, I don't know who this person was before I saw that show or that clip and now I'm in love.
	Okay, so it looks like we've got a problem on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	It looks like we're live.
	Locals is not up for anyone getting a host error, says Baron Von Miao.
	I will give it a chance.
	There might be some DDoS attacks tonight because it might be YouTube or it might be CNN going after the rogue outlets that dare rebroadcast with commentary the rumble in the jungle.
	I mean, this is the rumble in the jungle.
	It's the rumble in the urban jungle.
	Where is the debate today?
	Tonight is the night of Joe Biden.
	And Donald Trump debating.
	I put out a talkie vlog.
	I got, you know, the dogs, and I brought Winston into the video.
	Local is down per Robert Gouveia's deplorable 1958.
	See, I can see the chat from locals in Rumble Studio, but I can't see the video, and it's not loading.
	It's not loading on my phone.
	It's not loading on...
	Whatever.
	They'll fix it.
	This is tech, and this is the world in which we live.
	When alternate platforms stream the information unfiltered, Without the propaganda, without the delays, without the catering, the curating, when you fight corruption, corruption fights back Ruhu Nebado.
	Good evening, everybody.
	It's the night.
	This is like the Super Bowl of presidential debates.
	Except it's going to be like the San Francisco 49ers playing that team from the movie with Rob Schneider.
	It's going to be a savage beatdown if this happens.
	There are people out there.
	I think it was Mrs. Fixit, who's a member of our community, who also believes this debate might not occur.
	I was not watching TimCast prior to getting started, but I did notice that the headline of TimCast's episode was there is talk about a potential medical emergency, if I'm going by the headlines, although that goes without saying when you're dealing with geriatrics.
	I mean, at any point in time, anybody over 70, Can reasonably have a medical emergency and one would think nothing of it, except if one were to have a medical emergency.
	With either the Donald or the demented, sleepy, creepy Joe Biden, we would think conspiracy.
	Tonight is the debate.
	This is like we've been waiting for this.
	Some of us thought it would never happen.
	Others of you requested to be transferred to different facilities when I told you we had to have peanut training.
	That's an episode of The Simpsons, which some of you may not get because it's from like 1994.
	Tonight is the night of the debate.
	Joe Biden, 81, versus Donald Trump, 79?
	How old is Joe?
	How old is Trump?
	And it's the debate that everyone's been talking about because at one point in time, Trump said, I'll debate you anytime, anyplace.
	And Joe Biden and his machine took up that offer and said, all right, CNN, June 27th, but we get to make them rules.
	And they've made them rules, which we're still not entirely clear on.
	Except for the fact that CNN has announced that they would be rather vigorous, rather energetic about DMCA, Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedowns, because they purport to exercise copyright over the rebroadcast fair use commentary of this debate.
	It's happening tonight, and it's going to be wild because it's going to be a shit show, and I say that pun intended.
	CNN said anybody rebroadcasting it on YouTube is going to get it taken down, get a strike.
	And so, not that I give a sweet bugger all.
	I don't care about YouTube and I don't care about that platform or driving any more traffic to that platform than I've done over the last decade.
	We are rebroadcasting this with commentary.
	Barnes will be coming in sooner than later.
	And we will be analyzing this as it goes down in real time.
	There has been some debate, some discussion, some misunderstanding or confusion as to the rules of this debate.
	MrsFixitNevada says, is Viva here?
	I don't see him.
	The thing is still circling for me.
	That seems to be the case here.
	And now I can't even comment in Locals because I can't comment directly into Locals because it's not yet an option in Rumble Studio, but it will be.
	It's going to be an amazing night.
	It starts at 9 o 'clock.
	The rules, as far as I understand, 90 minutes between the two of them.
	No prompts, no A's, no assistance, whatever.
	No earbuds, as if that would help Joe Biden.
	That would just confuse him.
	There's a mute button.
	You all know the rules.
	We don't need to get into it.
	It's going to be amazing.
	I've got some clips that I want to show before we get started.
	But before we even get started, and I don't have to worry about YouTube with the button, did you click, to show that there's a sponsor for this video.
	There's a sponsor for this video, and it's going to be a great...
	Stream to sponsor.
	Because viewership is always the number one thing, but also relevance.
	And let's be cynical.
	Viewership.
	We have a sponsor for tonight, people.
	And it is called lumen.me forward slash viva.
	And it's oddly enough on point, people, because whether or not Joe's going to be jacked up on drugs, I don't know, Adderall, whatever the heck they say.
	Everybody should know what's going on with their own body.
	What is Lumen?
	Lumen is the world's first handheld metabolic coach.
	It's a device that measures your metabolism through your breath.
	Also like an alcohol tester, but we don't need that tonight because ain't nobody driving nowhere tonight.
	And the app, it lets you know if you're burning fat or carbs and gives you tailored guidance to improve your nutrition, workouts, sleep, and even stress management.
	How does it work?
	All you have to do is breathe into your Lumen first thing in the morning, and you'll know what's going on with your metabolism, whether you're burning mostly fats or carbs.
	It's an amazing thing, by the way, because you don't want to be burning carbs.
	You want to be burning fats.
	What do I know?
	I don't know anything.
	Lumen gives you a personalized nutritional plan for the day based on your measurements.
	You can also breathe into it before and after workouts and meals so you know exactly what's going on in your body in real time, and Lumen will give you tips and keep an eye on your health game.
	Your metabolism is your body's energy.
	It's how your body turns food you eat into the fuel that keeps you going.
	You want to know what's going on in your body.
	You want to know what's going on in your metabolism, your gut, everything about that.
	Because your metabolism is at the center of everything your body does, optimal metabolic health translates into benefits, health benefits, including easier weight management, improved energy levels, better fitness, better sleep, etc.
	Lewin gives you recommendations to improve your metabolic health.
	It can also track your cycle as well as the onset of menopause.
	Not for me, but for some.
	And adjust your recommendations to keep your metabolism healthy through hormonal shifts so you can keep your energy and stave off cravings.
	Go to lumen.me forward slash viva.
	Get 15% off your lumen.
	Just click on the link below.
	It's in the description.
	That is lumen.
	L-U-M-E-N.
	Lima.
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	Me.
	Mama.
	Echo.
	Forward slash Viva.
	You all know that's 15% off your purchase.
	Thank you, Lumen, for sponsoring this episode.
	And what an episode it's going to be.
	People, the humor writes itself, okay?
	The jokes write themselves.
	The only question is, what is going to happen?
	Now, I have been speaking of metabolism and speaking of the good goods.
	I've been holding off on this.
	There's a little bit left in this bottle.
	I don't know how long it's been here for, but I'm going to enjoy a little bit of Lagavulin.
	Viva's menopause is off the charts, says Brett.
	Brett, are we back on at vivabarneslaw.locals.com?
	Based on the level of the chat, I think we're back on on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Barnes will be joining us today.
	Oh, sorry, just to catch up a little bit.
	Earlier today, I was on a podcast with Pantelis, who might have discovered now his first name is Pantelis.
	I had no idea.
	I thought that was his last name.
	I've been calling him Pantelis for the last three years.
	And on Pantels, we talked about Canada, all the other stuff.
	I mentioned that Tommy Robinson was going to be coming on to talk about what's going on with him in Calgary.
	Tommy Robinson shows up to Canada to do a tour of speaking events with Rebel News, spends a few hours in customs as you get into the land of the Iron Curtain, the Maple Rainbow, you know, all of it.
	Gets through customs, spends about four or five, maybe a week here, days.
	Goes to Calgary, then gets arrested on what they're calling, and I don't know the details yet, and I thought I was going to get some details today, but it's going to have to wait until potentially tomorrow.
	What do they call them?
	Immigration offenses.
	So he was arrested, detained, and apparently is awaiting details on what his travel restrictions are going to be, what the terms of his release are going to be.
	So for anybody who thought, I know the internet's full of conspiracy, and it's full of infighting, and I don't want to have anything to do with...
	Stupid, useless, legally irrelevant infighting.
	There's conspiracy theorizing afoot.
	Bottom line, by all accounts, it seems that Tommy Robinson was arrested, has had certain restrictions on his travel place while he's in Canada, had his passport taken away.
	And now it's not clear what legs of the Rebel News tour he can participate in.
	And he was supposed to be on a six o 'clock.
	And for good reason, it didn't happen.
	So it might happen tomorrow, sooner than later.
	Who knows?
	Keep paying attention and we'll see what's going on.
	Now, let me see something here.
	Oh my goodness, is Rumble not working?
	Shiite people.
	I'm going to keep going as though, like, I don't know if this is working.
	All I know is every window I've got is giving me an error message.
	Wow, this is wild.
	Let me see what's going on here.
	I haven't seen a comment come in from anywhere.
	This is amazing.
	If it's an actual, I don't know what DDoS is, directed server, directed, directed attack on server.
	LOL, getting advice from mom on his lighting.
	Holy crap.
	I don't think, I don't think we're getting, I don't know where we're getting through here.
	Let me see if we're on, if we're on Twitter.
	This is amazing.
	This is the war of information.
	I see myself on Twitter.
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	I'm listening to myself on Twitter now.
	I want to hear the mic change.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Okay, so the mic is changed now.
	I've got someone, a member of our community, won't mention just in case.
	Lost video, but I can still hear you.
	I presume that's on...
	So vivabarneslaw.locals.com, I'm still getting a bad gateway.
	I'm going to refresh Rumble.
	This is wild, man.
	This is actually wild.
	I'm still going to be recording this, so I'll publish it later, and then I'll still be able to watch this.
	Rumble seems to be down.
	Holy hell.
	About 10 channels on Rumble playing the debates as Pirate Paradox.
	And I have a feeling that Rumble's not working.
	And I'm not getting any chat.
	I can see you, Viva says Julius Justice in Locals.
	Okay, so we're going to just...
	I'm going to plug through this as though...
	I mean, there's nothing I can do anyhow.
	So we're just going to do it.
	Pump up the volume, people, because I am in a basement.
	Everyone here.
	That is Scotland.
	Rumble is giving a 500 error.
	It's overloaded.
	Chris actually did mention that.
	Hold on a second.
	Chris, prior to going live, I can't bring it up on Twitter.
	Let me see here.
	Chris said, I bet that everyone would much prefer a debate on Rumble than CNN with independent creators asking the questions and not corporate media.
	Corporate media does not represent the people.
	That wasn't the one.
	Tomorrow, Rumble Cloud and Rumble Video are going to be running hot.
	The debate could trigger a seismic shift in live viewing.
	Let me actually just test.
	I'm sure Chris is getting a lot of text messages, but let me just...
	Are the servers down?
	Might be a lot of traffic!
	All right, we'll see what's going on there.
	And yeah, so that's it.
	The debate's going to start tonight.
	We're going to start it.
	Keep trying.
	We're going to do it tonight.
	But what I wanted to play, I wanted to play just at least some funny stuff.
	Everyone can catch up when they watch this tomorrow.
	All of my windows.
	So I wanted to bring this up because Ian Corzine is a man who, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't get, not the attention, doesn't get the traffic, doesn't get the viewership he deserves on Twitter.
	He put out an analysis.
	It's not a legal opinion.
	It is what it is.
	And you take it for what it's worth.
	Ian Corzine.
	At Ian Corzine.
	Lawyer.
	Prior.
	Hold on one second.
	Prior.
	Federal prosecutor.
	Holy shit!
	I didn't realize that Ian's the enemy.
	I'm joking.
	I like Ian.
	I know.
	CNN is breaking the law on this one by claiming a DMCA.
	Here's how.
	Copyright law.
	Copyright law.
	As the producer of the debate, CNN holds a valid copyright on the footage as an audiovisual work.
	My question to Ian would be, true, it's an audiovisual work, but if it's produced by a federal employee in the context of his employment, is it not public domain by definition?
	And I'm asking that, I don't actually know the answer, and I can understand the arguments to weasel around it, because they'll say, fine, Biden is a federal employee, he's giving his debate as president.
	But Trump is not.
	Okay.
	So I would question that.
	This gives CNN certain exclusive rights, including the right to control reproduction and distribution of the material.
	Fair use law, says Ian Corson.
	However, the fair use doctrine at Section 107 of the Copyright Act proves...
	A huge limitation on copyright holders of exclusive rights.
	Fair use allows for limited use of copyrighted material without permission for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarships, or research, legal analysis.
	In this case, there can be no disputing that independent journalists have fair use right to use short clips of the presidential debate for the purposes of commentary, criticism, and news reporting.
	If CNN decides to sue for copyright violations, they will be in a losing battle and likely have to pay out attorney's use because there's a...
	What's the word?
	There's a provision about abusive copyright.
	Now, the pivotal words here...
	Let me just see if I can bring this back up.
	Hold on.
	Where is it?
	Ian Corzine.
	No, that's not the right one.
	I tucked down the window so I can't get it.
	The pivotal term here is the right to use short clips of the presidential debate.
	The question becomes, for those such as myself who are going to live stream the entire debate while commentating, it's not going to be short clips.
	It's going to be the entire thing with commentary.
	Transformative?
	I would argue yes.
	Commentary fair use?
	I would argue yes.
	Newsworthy event?
	I would argue yes.
	I would also argue it's not something that CNN can claim copyright over, but that's a subsidiary argument.
	So the question is going to be, if someone is restreaming with commentary, that's not a short clip anymore.
	Is that going to be fair use or is that going to be unlawful copyright infringement?
	I would question whether or not CNN is even entitled to claim copyright over the president's words and a presidential candidate's words.
	To be determined, we'll see.
	If they issue a DMCA, we'll contest it.
	Now, I am going to pour a little bit of this sweet, sweet oil fire while we wait to see what's going on.
	But still, F-CNN says cigar with Barnes, and I agree with that.
	Can't even get on Rumble.
	Let me see something.
	Okay, well, there's a lot of traffic.
	There's a lot of traffic, people.
	So give it a second.
	The debate hasn't started yet, so it's good that they're getting...
	Oh, God, hold on one second.
	This is like Harold and Kumar when they get to White Castle at the end of the movie and they smell the...
	Hello?
	It smells like fire for anyone who has never drunk...
	Lagavulin.
	It's like drinking a match.
	It's like drinking the smokiest campfire you've ever had with a little bit of salt and hot, warm oil streaming down your throat while you do it.
	Lagavulin is singularly unique single malt scotch.
	It's the best.
	I went to the distillery with my late father-in-law.
	When we were...
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	Tell everybody you can watch us on X. I mean, it's the only...
	It's the platform.
	I guess it's got the infrastructure.
	Rumble's going to work around it.
	There's no question.
	I went to the Lagable...
	I'm just reading some chat and getting distracted.
	I went to Lagable and Distillery with my father-in-law.
	Was doing HDR.
	That's when I took this picture.
	This was when we went to the Talisker Distillery up in the highlands of Scotland.
	We went to Lagavulin Distillery.
	It was just glorious.
	We went to Lafroigue Distillery as well and got a bottle of scotch that you can only get at the distillery.
	And it was amazing.
	Well, all that to say, it looks like Rumble is still going to be down for a bit.
	We're going to go anyhow.
	We're doing this whole thing.
	I'm watching this debate.
	It starts in a few minutes.
	So, Ian Corzine has good analysis.
	There's no question the short clips is fair use.
	The question would be restreaming.
	And my question to that would be, does CNN even have the rights to claim ownership over a presidential debate?
	That is paid for by the taxpayer dollars, but the taxpayer dollars employee, CNN, as far as I would argue, does not get to make money off of the work of a federal employee, that being the president.
	So, we'll see.
	Can't even get on Rumble, and here it's just a spinning wheel, says IP Knightley.
	Well, get your tushies, and I can't chat yet through Rumble Studio.
	Oh, Barnes, you're coming in hot.
	Hold on one second.
	Let me see if I go back to this.
	I'm going to go back to Solo.
	Here we go.
	What was I saying was that I can't chat directly through.
	Let's test the argument, Viva says.
	Sig seg V. We're going to.
	We're going to test it.
	I think it makes perfect sense.
	We're going to do it anyhow.
	We're going to do it anyhow.
	So we're live on Twitter, Rumble, and vivabarneslaw.locals.com, but we're having problems on both.
	And it will come back soon.
	Because Lord knows their team is holy shit.
	They have to be blowing their gaskets.
	Robert, I think I can hear you.
	Robert, say something and let me know if the crowd can hear you.
	Because I think...
	Check, check, check, check.
	Okay, check, check.
	Did everyone hear Barnes saying check, check when he said check, check?
	And I'm going to see who gets to say it.
	Because he's not in the screen and I can't tell how I would keep Barnes muted.
	All right, whatever.
	We're going to find that in a second.
	Robert, I'll bring you in in 30 seconds.
	Barnes sounds good.
	Okay, so they can hear you.
	So while we have the time here, how do I...
	How do I not have you sit in the backdrop where people can't hear you?
	Maybe I can mute you.
	Is the locals down?
	Yeah, Robert.
	Hold on a second.
	Robert.
	Hold on.
	Not permanent mute.
	How do I unmute?
	Oh, son of a bee sting.
	What about now?
	Okay.
	No, no.
	I muted you.
	I'm going to bring you in here.
	Forget this.
	Test it.
	Presentation.
	Duel.
	Robert.
	Yeah, locals is down and rumble is down.
	There's got to be a whole hell of a lot of traffic hitting both of these websites right now.
	Robert, while we get into it, what do you think of my theory?
	How can CNN claim copyright over the work of a federal employee?
	So, are we live anywhere?
	We're live on Twitter.
	So, Musk.
	Musk is the one guy they can't shut down.
	Yeah, we'll see.
	Don't jigs it, Barnes.
	Let me see.
	I think we're still live on...
	Oh, somebody says Locals is working now.
	Okay, let me go refresh that.
	Are we live anywhere?
	Okay, it's taking some time on my end.
	Okay, no, we're definitely live on Twitter, so that's the...
	But I know that they're working on it.
	Yeah, Locals is...
	Well, it was, and then I clicked on it.
	So it's working for some, but not everybody.
	Okay, let's see here.
	So a member of the community says...
	I could hear Barnes, but I thought...
	But I just lost both of you.
	It keeps coming and going.
	Oh, shit.
	My wife, she says, Rumble is down.
	And somebody's coming over for dinner.
	Well, we're going to figure out...
	We're live on Twitter, so I guess everybody who's watching now in the chat...
	I can't even access the chat on Twitter.
	So, share the link.
	My view is this is a White House production.
	I mean, I discussed it with Ron Coleman with Good Logic.
	For his 54th birthday get-together.
	And his view was that it's still copyrighted protection.
	But my view was that this was a White House production.
	The White House set the terms of this.
	The White House set of who, how, when, where, etc.
	And they just happened to choose the camera crew.
	And that's not a copyrightable act in my view.
	That makes it a public forum that...
	Makes it, I think, unconstitutional to try to restrict or restrain broadcast access to it.
	This is why I feel smarter right now because you confirm what I thought was a creative thought.
	And Robert, by the way, without mentioning names, I've got a DM in Twitter that says, Rumble is fine via VPN.
	It is evidence of the nature of the fucker.
	I mean, it says duckery, but I know that he meant fuckery.
	All right.
	Well, look, I've got...
	I like that.
	I'm always looking for alternative words that communicate the point without offending anybody else out there.
	And I'm going to call it...
	That was a lot of duckery that was going on right there.
	Some thumb duckery, we can call it.
	Right.
	So I got to go...
	Let me just...
	I want to play this because...
	Dumb duckery even rhymes.
	I have alliteration, I mean.
	This is dirty, dumb duckery is what this is.
	I'm going to play this here.
	Also, I'm going to refresh in a second, but I want to pause it at a good part here.
	You often hear, though, that people will vote with their pocketbooks, which means your money and your wallet, whether you have it, whether you don't have it, everybody wants it.
	That's why the economy really matters.
	That's one of the main issues for voters.
	CBS News found...
	Robert, you can't hear it?
	No.
	Well, that's the problem.
	Well, wage growth outpaces inflation.
	It does so just barely, which is partly why people say they don't feel good about this economy, despite the numbers.
	She's saying people don't feel good about the economy, despite the numbers, as if people don't know the economy.
	Yeah, they're still sticking with everything.
	It's unbelievable here.
	Explain to everybody, President.
	The economy is really great.
	And they're idiots to think otherwise.
	I'm going to tell you.
	I'll say it for you because we can't hear here.
	Jolene Kent joins us now.
	Jolene, help us understand this.
	Because the numbers show that the economy is well, but that is not how people feel.
	But that's not how people feel.
	Don't trust your lying eyes.
	You can't hear it.
	Son of a beast.
	Good evening, I'm Dana Bash, anchor of CNN's Inside Politics and co-anchor of State of the Union.
	I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of CNN's The Lead and co-anchor of State of the Union.
	Dana and I will co-modulate this evening.
	Our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight.
	Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home.
	Former President Trump will be on the left side of the screen.
	President Biden will be appearing on the right.
	A coin toss determined their positions.
	Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question.
	I sent you the link so you can play it somewhere and listen to it at the same time.
	The chat can hear it, so I'll have to figure out with Rumble Studio what the deal is here.
	But I'll keep playing and pull up the link and you can hear it.
	You'll play it from another link.
	...to speak.
	His microphone will be turned on and his opponent's microphone will be turned off.
	Should a candidate interrupt when his microphone is muted, he will be difficult to understand for viewers at home.
	At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements.
	There is no studio audience tonight.
	Pre-written notes, props, or contact with campaign staff are not permitted.
	Contact with campaign staff not permitted.
	By accepting our invitation to debate, both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules.
	Now, please welcome...
	The 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, he doesn't know where he's going.
	It's already starting bad.
	Great to be here.
	Thank you.
	He's talking to nobody.
	And please welcome the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.
	What's up, Joe?
	So I think everybody can hear this.
	If you guys are hearing me, you all can hear the stream, right?
	Barnes is going to pull it up so he can hear the audio.
	Let's begin the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say is their top concern, the economy.
	President Biden, inflation has slowed, but prices remain high.
	Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased.
	For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then...
	Now costs more than $120.
	And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%.
	What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?
	We've got to take a look at what I was left when I became president and what Mr. Trump loved me.
	We had an economy that was in free fall.
	The pandemic was so badly handled.
	Many people were dying.
	All he said was, it's not that serious.
	Just inject the bleach in your arm.
	The economy collapsed.
	There were no jobs.
	An appointment rate rose to 15%.
	It was terrible.
	And so what we had to do was try to put things back together again.
	That's exactly what we began to do.
	We've created 15,000 new jobs.
	15,000 new jobs?
	We have 800,000 new manufacturing jobs.
	But there's more to be done.
	There's more to be done.
	Working with those people is still in trouble.
	I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania.
	I come from a household where the kitchen table, if things weren't able to be met during the month, there was a problem.
	The price of eggs, the price of gas.
	Oh my God, Robert, this is going to be the end of it.
	This is the end of it.
	That's why I'm working so hard to make sure I deal with those problems.
	And we're going to make sure that we reduce the price of the house.
	This is bad of what one minute is.
	We're going to make sure we build 2 million new units.
	We're going to make sure we cap rents so corporate greed can't take over.
	The combination that I was left with in corporate greed is the reason why we're in this problem right now.
	In addition to that, we're in a situation where if you had to look at all that was done in his administration, he didn't do much at all.
	By the time he left, things were in chaos.
	And so we put things back together.
	We created, I said, those jobs.
	We make sure we had a situation where we now, we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people.
	to $15 for an insulin shot as opposed to $400.
	No senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all the drugs they can include beginning next year.
	In a situation, they're going to make that available to everybody, to all Americans.
	So we're working to bring down the price around the kitchen table.
	I'm looking at the nuisance production.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	What did you just say?
	We're the greatest economy in the history of our country.
	We have never done so well.
	Everybody was amazed by it.
	Other countries were copying us.
	We got hit with COVID.
	And when we did, we spent the money necessary so we wouldn't end up in a Great Depression, the likes of which we had in 1929, by the time we finished.
	So we did a great job.
	We got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military, and no wars, and so many other things.
	Everything was rocking good.
	But the thing we never got the credit for, and we should have, is getting us out of that COVID mess.
	He created mandates.
	That was a disaster for our country.
	But other than that, we had given them back a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-COVID, and nobody thought that was even possible.
	The only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce-back jobs, a bounce-back from the COVID.
	He has not done a good job.
	He's done a poor job, and inflation is killing our country.
	It is absolutely killing us.
	Thank you.
	President Biden?
	Well, look, the greatest economy in the world.
	He's the only one who thinks that, I think.
	I don't know anybody else who thinks he had the greatest economy in the world.
	And, you know, the fact of the matter is that we found ourselves in a situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy.
	He had the largest tax cut in American history, $2 trillion.
	He raised a deficit larger than any president has in any one term.
	He's the only president other than Herbert Hoover, who's lost more jobs than he had when he began, since Herbert Hoover.
	The idea that he did something that was significant in the military, you know, when he was president, they were still killing people in Afghanistan.
	He didn't do anything about that.
	When he was president, we still find ourselves in a position where you had a notion that We were this safe country.
	The truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did.
	Is he forgetting about President Trump?
	I want to follow up if I can.
	Are you allowed to respond to him?
	Well, I'm going to ask you a follow-up.
	You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you.
	I want to follow up.
	You want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the U.S. How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher?
	It's not going to drive them higher.
	It's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years, like China and many others, in all fairness to China, it's going to...
	Just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of power for other things.
	But he made a statement.
	The only thing he was right about is, I gave you the largest tax cut in history.
	I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history.
	That's why we had all the jobs.
	And the jobs went down, and then they bounced back.
	And he's taking credit for bounce-back jobs.
	You can't do that.
	He also said he inherited 9% inflation.
	He inherited almost no inflation, and it stayed that way for 14 months.
	And then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing, and they don't know what they were doing.
	It was probably the worst administration in history.
	There's never been.
	And as far as Afghanistan is concerned, I was getting out of Afghanistan, but we were getting out with dignity, with strength, with power.
	He got out.
	It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country's life.
	President Trump, over the last eight years, under both of your administrations, the national debt soared to record highs.
	And according to a new nonpartisan analysis, your administration approved $8.4 trillion in new debt.
	While so far, President Biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt.
	So, former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year.
	You want to extend them and go even further, you say.
	With the U.S. facing trillion dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now?
	Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to COVID.
	And even after COVID, it was so strong that we're able to get through COVID much better than just about any other.
	We took in more revenue with much less tax.
	And companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country.
	The country was going like never before.
	And we were ready to start paying down debt.
	We were ready to start using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet.
	We were going to have something that nobody else has had.
	We got hit with COVID.
	We did a lot to fix it.
	I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with.
	Robert, he's going to the therapeutics.
	We gave him something great.
	More people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it.
	More people died under his administration than our administration, and we were right in the middle of it.
	Something which a lot of people don't like to talk about.
	But he had far more people dying in his administration.
	He did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it.
	The vaccine went out.
	He did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine.
	And he did a very poor job, just a very poor job.
	And I will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country.
	They don't respect our leadership.
	They don't respect the United States anymore.
	We're like a third world nation between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his political opponent.
	All of the things he's done, we've become like a third world nation.
	And it's a shame.
	The damage he's done to our country, and I'd love to ask him and will why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.
	President Trump, we will get to immigration later in this block.
	President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt.
	Wait for the blink.
	He has the largest national debt of any president in a four-year period, number one.
	Number two, that $2 trillion tax cut benefited the very wealthy.
	What I'm going to do is fix the tax system.
	For example, we have 1,000 billionaires in America.
	And what's happening?
	They're in a situation where they, in fact, pay 8.2% in taxes.
	If they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they've raised $500 million.
	$1,000 million.
	$500 million.
	Robert, he's able to wipe out his debt.
	He's not making sense.
	Make sure that all those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person.
	I'm eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID.
	He's done.
	He's done, Robert.
	I'm right.
	I'm right.
	I called it.
	Look.
	He's down to 76 cents, Robert.
	He's down to 76 cents on Medicare.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump.
	What the fuck did he just say?
	He did beat Medicare.
	He beat it to death, and he's destroying Medicare because...
	All of these people are coming in.
	They're putting them on Medicare.
	They're putting them on Social Security.
	They're going to destroy Social Security.
	This man is going to single-handedly destroy Social Security.
	These millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on Social Security.
	He will wipe out Social Security.
	He will wipe out Medicare.
	So he was right in the way he finished that sentence.
	And it's a shame.
	What's happened to our country...
	In the last four years is not to be believed.
	Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of people, they cannot believe what happened to the United States of America.
	We're no longer respected.
	They don't like us.
	We give them everything they want and they think we're stupid.
	They think we're very stupid people.
	What we're doing for other countries and they do nothing for us.
	What this man has done is absolutely criminal.
	Yes.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v.
	Wade.
	This morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in Idaho, despite that state's restrictive ban.
	Former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn Roe v.
	Wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states.
	However, the federal government still plays Women have access to abortion pills.
	They're used in about two-thirds of all abortions.
	As president, would you block abortion medication?
	First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion pill, and I agree with their decision to have done that, and I will not block it.
	And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, complex but not really complex.
	51 years ago...
	You had Roe v.
	Wade, and everybody wanted to get it back to the states.
	Everybody, without exception.
	Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.
	Everybody wanted it back.
	Religious leaders.
	And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court, and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v.
	Wade and moving it back to the states.
	This is something that everybody wanted.
	Now, 10 years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many of this and getting into other things.
	But every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it brought back to the states.
	I did that.
	Now the states are working it out.
	If you look at Ohio, it was a decision that was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought.
	Kansas, I would say the same thing.
	Texas is different.
	They're not equal.
	But they're all making their own decisions right now.
	And right now...
	The states control it.
	That's the vote of the people.
	Like Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions.
	I am a person that believes.
	And frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions.
	Some people, you have to follow your heart.
	Some people don't believe in that.
	But I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother.
	I think it's very important.
	Some people don't.
	Follow your heart.
	But you have to get elected also.
	Because that has to do with other things.
	You've got to get elected.
	The problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth.
	After birth, if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this.
	He said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby.
	What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue.
	It's been a great thing.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	It's been a terrible thing what you've done.
	The fact is that the vast majority of constitutional scholars supported Roe when it was decided.
	Supported Roe.
	And this idea that they were all against it is just ridiculous.
	And this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it.
	We're in a state where in six weeks, you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see a doctor have your...
	And have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help.
	The idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states.
	Let each state have a different rule.
	Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral.
	The idea that...
	She was murdered by an immigrant coming in.
	They talk about that.
	But here's the deal.
	There's a lot of young women who are being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters.
	It's just ridiculous.
	And they can do nothing about it.
	And they try to arrest them on the cross-state line.
	Thank you.
	There have been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border.
	We have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world.
	And he opened it up, and these killers are coming into our country.
	And they are raping and killing women.
	And it's a terrible thing.
	As far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states.
	The states are voting.
	Look at that face, Robert.
	In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision.
	In many cases, it's the opposite.
	But they're voting, and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted.
	Including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which, frankly, they didn't.
	But everybody wanted it brought back.
	Ronald Reagan wanted it brought back.
	He wasn't able to get it.
	Everybody wanted it brought back.
	And many presidents had tried to get it back.
	I was the one to do it.
	And again, this gives it the vote of the people, and that's where they wanted it.
	Every legal scholar wanted it that way.
	Staying on the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven states.
	I'll let you do that.
	This is the same topic.
	Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion.
	This is a tough question.
	Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy?
	I support Roe v.
	Wade, which had three trimesters.
	First time is between a woman and a doctor.
	Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation.
	The third time is between...
	The doctor.
	And God?
	Between the woman and the state.
	The idea that the politicians, that the founders want the politicians to be the ones making decisions about a woman's health is ridiculous.
	That's the last.
	No politician should be making that decision.
	A doctor should be making those decisions.
	That's how it should be run.
	That's what you're going to do.
	And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v.
	Wade.
	You're not getting elected.
	You're out.
	Come on.
	He can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth because some states, Democrat run, Take it after birth.
	Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.
	So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby.
	Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican.
	Nobody wants it to happen.
	That is simply not true.
	The Roe v.
	Wade does not provide for that.
	That's not the circumstance.
	Only a woman's life is in danger.
	She's going to die.
	That's the only circumstance in which that can happen.
	But we are not for late-term abortion, period.
	Period.
	The Roe v.
	Wade, you have late-term abortion.
	You can do whatever you want, depending on the state.
	You can do whatever you want.
	We don't think that's a good thing.
	We think it's a radical thing.
	We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans.
	For 51 years, that was the law.
	51 years.
	51 years and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court.
	He takes credit for taking it away.
	What's he going to do?
	What's he going to do, in fact, if the MAGA Republicans, he gets elected and the MAGA Republicans control the Congress and they pass a universal ban on abortion, period, across the board at six weeks or seven or eight or ten weeks.
	Something very, very conservative.
	If you're going to sign that bill, I'll veto it.
	He'll sign it.
	Thank you.
	Let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security.
	President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch.
	Overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York and Chicago, and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns.
	Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis?
	Because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all of that, but made sure that we are in a situation where You had no circumstance where they could come across the border with the number of border police there are now.
	We significantly increased the number of asylum officers.
	By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position.
	In addition to that, we found ourselves in a situation where when he was president, he was separating babies from their mothers, putting them in cages, making sure all the families were separated.
	That's not the right way to go.
	What I've done since I've changed the law, what's happened?
	I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.
	That's better than when he left office.
	And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.
	This is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.
	I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
	I don't think he knows what he said either.
	Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country.
	All he had to do was leave it.
	All he had to do was leave it.
	He decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons, people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists.
	We have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now.
	All terrorists, all over the world, not just in South America, all over the world.
	They come from the Middle East, everywhere.
	All over the world, they're pouring in.
	And this guy...
	Just left it open.
	And he didn't need legislation because I didn't have legislation.
	I said, close the border.
	We had the safest border in history.
	In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but I won't say that, but he endorsed me for president.
	Brandon, just speak to him.
	But look, we had the safest border in history.
	Now we have the worst border in history.
	There's never been anything like it.
	And people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up in caravans.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	President Biden?
	The only terrorist who's done anything across the border is one who came along and killed three under his administration.
	Killed an Al-Qaeda person coming in at his administration.
	Killed three.
	American soldiers.
	Kill three American soldiers.
	That's the only terrorist.
	I'm not saying no terrorist ever got through.
	But the idea, they're emptying their prisons.
	We're welcoming these people.
	That's simply not true.
	There's no data to support what he said.
	Once again, he's exaggerating.
	He's lying.
	President Trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American history, unquote.
	Does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in America, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, and including those who have lived here for decades?
	And if so, how will you do it?
	Just one second.
	He said we killed three people.
	The people we killed are al-Baghdadi and Soleimani.
	The two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world.
	And it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything.
	He's the one to kill people with the bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying and also killing our citizens when they come in.
	We are living right now in a rat's nest.
	They're killing our people in New York, in California, in every state in the union because we don't have borders anymore.
	Every state is now a border.
	And because of his ridiculous, insane, and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen.
	We call it migrant crime.
	I call it Biden migrant crime.
	They're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before.
	And you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days.
	One of them, I just spoke to the mother, and he just had the funeral for this girl.
	Twelve years old.
	This is horrible what's taken place.
	What's taken place in our country, we're literally an uncivilized country now.
	He doesn't want it to be.
	He just doesn't know.
	He opened the borders.
	Nobody's ever seen anything like.
	And we have to get a lot of these people out or we have to get them out fast because they're going to destroy our country.
	Just take a look at where they're living.
	They're living in luxury hotels.
	In New York City and other places, our veterans are on the street.
	They're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans.
	He doesn't care.
	He doesn't like the military at all.
	And he doesn't care about our veterans.
	Nobody's been worse.
	I had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the VA.
	He has the worst.
	He's gotten rid of all the things that I approved.
	Choice that I got through Congress.
	All of the different things I approved, they abandoned.
	We had by far the highest, and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did.
	And I think he did it just because I approved it, which is crazy.
	But he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in.
	Robert, he's a sad day in America.
	President Biden, you have the mic.
	Every single thing he says is a lie.
	Every single one.
	For example, veterans are a hell of a lot better off since I passed the PAC Act.
	One million of them now have insurance and their families have it.
	Their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or burn pits, they're all being covered now.
	And his group opposed that.
	We're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans.
	My son spent a year in Iraq living one of the next one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma.
	I was recently in France for D-Day, and I spoke to all about those heroes that died.
	I went to the World War II.
	He's out, Robert.
	He's out as of tomorrow.
	He was standing with his four-star general, and he told me, he said, I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers.
	My son was not a loser.
	He's not a sucker.
	You're the sucker.
	You're the loser.
	President Trump?
	First of all, that was a made-up quote, suckers and losers.
	They made it up.
	It was in a third-rate magazine that's failing, like many of these magazines.
	He made that up.
	He put it in commercials.
	We've notified him.
	We had 19 people that said I didn't say it.
	And think of this.
	Who would say I'm at a cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans?
	Because nobody's taking better care.
	I'm so glad this came up and he brought it up.
	There's nobody that's taking better care of our soldiers than I have.
	To think that I would, in front of generals and others, say suckers and losers.
	We have 19 people that said it was never said by me.
	It was made up by him.
	Just like Russia, Russia, Russia was made up.
	Just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up.
	Just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking.
	It's the same thing.
	51 intelligence agents said that the laptop was Russia disinformation.
	It wasn't.
	That came from his son, Hunter.
	It wasn't Russia disinformation.
	He made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to me right now.
	War star general standing to your side who was on your staff who said you said it.
	Period.
	Which one?
	General Milley?
	And number two, the idea, the idea that I have to apologize to you for anything along the line.
	We've done more for veterans than any president has in American history.
	American history.
	And they now are in their family.
	The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war.
	That's what we're doing.
	That's what the VA is doing now.
	They're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history.
	All right.
	Thank you so much.
	To the topic of foreign policy, I want to begin with Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in its third year.
	Former President Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it has already claimed and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO.
	Sounds like a fair out.
	Are Putin's terms acceptable to you?
	First of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy.
	They can't stand him.
	They think he's the worst commander-in-chief, if that's what you call him, that we've ever had.
	They can't stand him.
	So let's get that straight.
	And they like me more than just about any of them.
	And that's based on every single bit of information.
	As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that was respected by Putin, he would have never invaded Ukraine.
	A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know.
	You know, they talk about numbers.
	You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.
	He did nothing to stop it.
	In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in.
	I'll tell you what happened.
	He was so bad with Afghanistan.
	It was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
	That when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence, that he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned.
	And so he's got no love lost.
	But he should have fired those generals.
	No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind.
	We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated.
	And by the way, we left people behind, too.
	We left American citizens behind.
	When Putin saw that, he said, You know what?
	I think we're going to go in and maybe take my...
	This was his dream.
	I talked to him about it.
	His dream.
	The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine.
	Never.
	Just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas.
	You know why?
	Because Iran was broke with me.
	I wouldn't let anybody do business with them.
	They ran out of money.
	They were broke.
	They had no money for Hamas.
	They had no money for anything.
	No money for terror.
	That's why you had no terror at all during my administration.
	This place, the whole world is blowing up under him.
	President Biden?
	I've never heard so much malarkey in my whole life.
	I'm in a situation where let's take the last point first.
	Iran attacked American troops, caused brain damage for a number of these troops, and he did nothing about it.
	Iran caused brain damage?
	There they attacked.
	He said they're just having headaches.
	That's all it is.
	We didn't do a thing when the attack took place, number one.
	Number two, we got over 100,000 Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that airlift.
	Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what Trump did in Ukraine, this guy told Trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want.
	And that's exactly what Trump did.
	To Putin, encourage him to do whatever you want.
	And he went in.
	And listen to what he said when he went in.
	He was going to take Kiev in five days, remember?
	Because it's part of the old Soviet Union.
	That's what he wanted to reestablish.
	Kiev.
	And he, in fact, didn't do it at all.
	He didn't, wasn't able to get it done.
	And they've lost over, they've lost thousands and thousands of troops.
	I don't know what he's saying, Robert.
	President Trump, if I come back to you for one minute, I just want to go back to my original question, which is, are Putin's...
	No, they're not acceptable.
	But look, this is a war that never should have started.
	If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along.
	He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine.
	He's given $200 billion.
	That's a lot of money.
	I don't think there's ever been anything like it.
	Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion.
	He's the greatest salesman ever.
	And I'm not knocking him.
	I'm not knocking anything.
	I'm only saying, the money that we're spending on this war...
	And he gets to dictate his terms.
	And we shouldn't be spending...
	He won.
	It should have never happened.
	I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20th.
	I'll have that war settled.
	People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly.
	And I will get it settled, and I'll get it settled fast before I take office.
	You know, the fact is that Putin is a war criminal.
	He's killed thousands and thousands of people.
	And he has made one thing clear.
	He wants to reestablish what was part of the Soviet empire, not just a peace.
	He wants all of Ukraine.
	That's what he wants.
	And then you think he'll stop there?
	No, he'll go to Newfoundland.
	If he takes Ukraine?
	What do you think happens to Poland?
	What do you think of Belarus?
	What do you think happens to those NATO countries?
	And so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do.
	Because if, in fact, he does what he says, I didn't understand what he just said.
	Thank you.
	Moving on to the Middle East.
	In October, Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than a thousand people and taking hundreds of hostages.
	Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans.
	Israel's response has killed thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
	President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far Hamas has not released Who's doing it?
	Number one, everyone from the United Nations Security Council, straight through the G7, to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan they put forward, endorsed the plan they put forward, which has three stages to it.
	The first stage is trade the Hostages for a ceasefire.
	Second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions.
	The third phase is the end of the war.
	The third stage is the end of the war.
	We're still pushing hard.
	In the meantime, what's happened?
	In Israel, the only thing I've denied Israel was 2,000-pound bombs.
	They don't work very well in populated areas.
	They kill a lot of innocent people.
	We're providing Israel with all the weapons they need and when they need them.
	And by the way, I'm the guy that organized the world against Iran when they had a full-blown intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Israel.
	No one was hurt.
	One Israeli was accidentally killed, and it stopped.
	We saved Israel.
	I don't know what he's saying.
	A support for Israel of anyone in the world.
	And so there are two different things.
	Hamas cannot be allowed to be continued.
	We continue to send our experts and our intelligence people as to how they can get Hamas like we did bin Laden.
	You don't have to do it.
	And by the way, they've been greatly weakened Hamas, greatly weakened, and they should be.
	They should be eliminated.
	But you've got to be careful for using certain weapons among population centers.
	Just going back to Ukraine for one second.
	We have an ocean separating us.
	The European nations together.
	I've spent $100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us.
	Why doesn't he call them and say, you've got to put up your money like I did with NATO?
	I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars.
	The Secretary General of NATO said, Trump did the most incredible job I've ever seen.
	They were going out of business.
	We were spending almost 100% of the money that was paid by us.
	He didn't do that.
	You've got to ask these people to put up the money.
	We're over $100 billion more spent, and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between.
	You've got to ask them, as far as Israel and Hamas, Israel's the one that wants to go.
	He said the only one that wants to keep going is Hamas.
	Actually, Israel is the one, and you should let him go and let him finish the job.
	He doesn't want to do it.
	He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian.
	He's a weak one.
	President Biden, you have a minute?
	I've never heard so much foolishness.
	This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO.
	Are you going to stay in NATO?
	Are you going to pull out of NATO?
	The idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well.
	It may be a big ocean, but are we ever able to avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe?
	What happens if, in fact, you have Putin continue to go into NATO?
	We have an Article 5 agreement.
	Attack on one is attack on all.
	You want to start the nuclear war he keeps talking about, go ahead, let Putin go in and control.
	Ukraine, and then move on to Poland and other places.
	See what happens then.
	He has no idea what the hell he's talking about.
	And by the way, I got 50 other nations around the world to support Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea, because they understand that this kind of dislocation has a serious threat to the whole world peace.
	No major war in Europe has ever been able to be contained just to Europe.
	President Trump, just to follow up, would you support the creation of an independent Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region?
	Yes, I'd have to see.
	But before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money.
	So they kill us on trade.
	I made great trade deals with the European nations.
	Because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically.
	Look at Joe right now.
	Their economy is about the same size as the United States.
	And they were no cars.
	No, they don't want anything that we have.
	But we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture.
	I changed that.
	But the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay.
	And the only reason that he can play games with NATO is because I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars.
	I said, and he's right about this.
	I said, no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay.
	They asked me that question.
	Would you guard us against Russia?
	At a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time.
	And they said, no, if you don't pay, I won't do that.
	And you know what happened?
	Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next months.
	But now we're in the same position.
	We're paying everybody's bills.
	Let's turn to the issue of democracy.
	Former President Trump.
	I want to ask you about January 6, 2021.
	After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes.
	As president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve, protect, and defend, unquote, the Constitution.
	What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6 and worry that you'll do it again?
	Well, I don't think too many believe that.
	And let me tell you about January 6. On January 6, We had a great border.
	Nobody coming through.
	Very few.
	On January 6th, we were energy independent.
	On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever.
	We had the lowest regulations ever.
	On January 6th, we were respected all over the world.
	All over the world, we were respected.
	And then he comes in, and we're now left at.
	We're like a bunch of stupid people.
	What happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership...
	Is horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about, where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat him fair and square.
	You have 80 seconds left.
	My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath for your actions and actions on January 6th, 2021, and worry that you'll do it again?
	Well, I didn't say that to anybody.
	I said peacefully and patriotically.
	And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, On tape to her daughter, who's a documentary filmmaker, they say.
	But she's saying, oh, no, it's my responsibility.
	I was responsible for this.
	Because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard, and she turned them down.
	And the mayor of, in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing, turned it down.
	The mayor of D.C. They turned it down.
	I offered 10,000 because I could see.
	I had virtually nothing to do.
	They asked me to go make a speech.
	I could see what was happening.
	Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th.
	They're going to be there.
	And I said, you know what?
	There's a lot of people coming.
	You could feel it.
	You could feel it, too, and you could feel it.
	And I said, they ought to have some National Guard or whatever.
	And I offered it to her.
	And she now admits that she turned it down.
	And it was the same day she was, I don't know, he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar.
	She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th.
	President Biden?
	Look, he encouraged those folks to go up on Capitol Hill, number one.
	I sat in the dining room off the Oval Office.
	He sat there for three hours, three hours watching.
	Begging, being begged by his vice president and a number of his colleagues on the Republican side as well to do something, to call for a stop, to end it.
	Instead, he talked about these people being patriots and great patrons of America.
	In fact, he says he'll not forgive them for what they've done.
	They've been convicted.
	He says he wants to commute their sentences and say that no.
	He went to every single court in the nation.
	I don't know how many cases, scores of cases, including the Supreme Court.
	And they said, they said, no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being done.
	He did do a damn thing.
	And these people should be in jail.
	And they should be the ones who are being held accountable.
	And he wants to let them all out.
	And now he says if he loses again, such a whiner that he is, that there could be a Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump?
	You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
	What you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people.
	When they rip down Portland, when they rip down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they've done there, with the fires all over the city, if I didn't bring in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.
	When you look at all of the...
	They took over big chunks of Seattle.
	I was all set to bring in the National Guard.
	They heard that, they saw them coming, and they left immediately.
	What he said about this whole subject is so off, peacefully patriotic.
	One other thing, the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now out of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right.
	We were right.
	And they deleted and destroyed all of the information.
	They should go to jail for that.
	If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	President Biden, I want to give you a minute.
	The only person on this stage is a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now.
	And the fact of the matter is, he isn't...
	He did it.
	Drop the convicted felon.
	The fact is that...
	There was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up in Capitol Hill.
	And all those people, every one of those who were convicted, deserves to be convicted.
	The idea that they didn't kill somebody, just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned over statutes.
	The idea that those people are patriots?
	Come on!
	When I asked him the first two debates we had, the debates we had the first time around, I said, will you denounce the Proud Boys?
	He said, no, I'll tell them to stand by.
	The idea he's refusing, will you denounce these guys?
	Will you denounce the people we're talking about now?
	Will you denounce the people who attacked that Capitol?
	What are you going to do?
	I'm going to give you a minute, President Trump, for a follow-up question I have.
	After a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected, you would, quote, have every right to go after your political opponents.
	You just talked about members of the Select Committee on January 6th going to jail.
	Your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight.
	Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents?
	Well, I said my retribution is going to be success.
	We're going to make this country successful again, because right now it's a failing nation.
	My retribution is going to be a success.
	But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level.
	His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times.
	Should have been convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things.
	But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office.
	Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done.
	He's done horrible things.
	All of the death caused at the border.
	Telling the Ukrainian people that we're going to want a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor.
	Otherwise you're not getting a billion dollars.
	If I ever said that, that's quid pro quo.
	That we're not going to do anything.
	We're not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with his son.
	This man is a criminal.
	This man, you're lucky.
	You're lucky.
	I did nothing wrong.
	We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting.
	I did nothing wrong.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	President Biden, you have said, I'm coming right to you, sir.
	Well, you want to respond?
	Go ahead.
	I'll give you a minute to respond.
	The idea.
	That I did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous.
	It's simply a lie, number one.
	Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because you're president is wrong.
	It's simply wrong.
	No president's ever spoken like that before.
	No president in our history has spoken like that before.
	Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with.
	And think of all the civil penalties you have.
	How many?
	Billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole lot of things, having sex with a porn star while your wife was pregnant?
	What are you talking about?
	You have the morals of an alley cat.
	Take a minute, sir.
	I didn't have sex with a porn star, number one.
	Number two, that was a case that was started and moved.
	They moved a...
	High-ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case.
	That case is going to be appealed and won.
	We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat.
	The prosecutor were all high-ranking Democrats, appointed people, and both the civil and the criminal.
	He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me.
	But when the public found out about these cases, because they understand it better than he does, he has no idea what these cases are.
	But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did?
	My poll numbers went up way up.
	You know that because you're reporting it.
	And we took in more money in the last two weeks.
	Than we've ever taken in the history of any campaign.
	I don't think any campaign has ever taken.
	Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	President Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.
	Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy?
	The more they know about what he's done, yes.
	The more they know about what he's done.
	He's got a lot of cases down the road coming around.
	Joe Biden's loving the law fair.
	He's got a whole range of issues he has to face.
	I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem.
	And so the fact that...
	Could you ever think you're hearing any president say that I'm going to seek retribution?
	I heard you just say it five times on the stage.
	What got me involved to run the first place after my son had died, I decided in Iraq because of Iraq.
	I said I wasn't going to run again until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
	People coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches.
	Very fine people.
	And singing the same anti-Semitic bile they sang back in Germany.
	And the young woman got killed.
	They spoke to the mother.
	And they asked him, they said, what do you think of those people?
	The people who, the ones who got killed and tried to stop them.
	He said, I think they're fine people on both sides.
	American president would ever say Nazis coming out of fields, carrying torches, singing the same...
	Carrying swastikas.
	We're fine people.
	This is a guy who says Hitler's done some good things.
	I'd like to know what they are.
	The good things Hitler's done, that's what he said.
	This guy has no sense of American democracy.
	President Trump.
	Jake, both of you know that story's been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said...
	A hundred percent exoneration on this.
	So he just keeps it going.
	He says he ran because of Charlottesville.
	He didn't run because of Charlottesville.
	He ran because it was his last chance.
	He's not equipped to be president.
	You know it and I know it.
	It's ridiculous.
	We have a debate.
	We're trying to justify his presidency.
	His presidency is, without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country.
	We shouldn't be having a debate about it.
	There's nothing to debate.
	He made up the Charlottesville story.
	And you'll see it's debunked all over the place.
	Every reasonable anchor has debunked it.
	And just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked.
	It's a nonsense story.
	He knows that.
	And he didn't run because of Charlottesville.
	He used that as an excuse to run.
	President Biden?
	And debunked.
	It happened.
	All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time.
	And the idea that somehow that's the only reason I ran.
	I ran because I was worried a guy like this guy could get elected.
	If he thought...
	They were good people coming out of that forest, carrying those woods, carrying those torches that he didn't deserve to be president, didn't deserve to be president at all.
	And the idea that he's talking about, all this being fabricated, we saw with our own eyes.
	We saw what happened on January 6th.
	We saw the people breaking through the windows.
	We saw people occupying his own vice president.
	But there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused to endorse him this time.
	His vice president hasn't endorsed him this time.
	So why?
	Well, the vice president just condemned the astonishment of the plea deal.
	Why are they not endorsing him?
	Thank you, President Biden.
	We're going to be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate.
	Holy hell, Robert.
	So we got a break?
	This reminds me of the time I was going to Strawberry Girls U-Pick in Florida.
	Hold on a second.
	And I saw an elderly woman step on a bird and kill it.
	A little parakeet.
	And I picked it up and it died in my hands.
	I'm serious.
	This is worse than that, Robert.
	This is the worst thing I've ever...
	I hate Joe Biden, but I feel bad for Joe Biden.
	You see, the talking points are rehash of 2020 and lawfare.
	That's it.
	There's nothing else.
	His entire campaign is a not-Trump campaign, and it's let's rehash the 2020 and let's highlight the lawfare.
	I mean, look at how proud he is of the lawfare.
	Oh, criminal conviction, even more cases, and even more money is going to be taken from you.
	Isn't that wonderful?
	I mean, he can't mask it.
	I mean, the degree to which there was any doubt that the lawfare was the entire political strategy of the Democratic Party in 2024 is now mute by what he has done in this debate.
	Robert, occasionally I make good funnies.
	This is my good funny of the night.
	This is Gavin Newsom right now.
	Yes!
	Keep going, Joe!
	Oh, hold on.
	I didn't bring it up here.
	I've got to bring it up in presentation.
	Here we go.
	This is it.
	Yes!
	Gavin Newsom is now seeing presidency.
	Hypothetically, because I want to be right on my bet.
	Bring it back here.
	Can Gavin Newsom become the presidential pick and Kamala Harris agree to be vice president a second time?
	It's actually very difficult.
	Due to the way ballots are getting printed, due to the way convention works, due to the way the party works.
	So the short answer is very difficult.
	There would be a way, but I discussed it briefly with Alex Jones today.
	Alex had some funny stuff early on.
	He was like, oh, I think Joe Biden's had a blood transfusion from 10-year-old kids.
	Probably a 5-10-year-old kid.
	Probably not 5. That's probably right.
	So Jones was fun off the gate.
	But as if something happened.
	To Biden.
	And something happened to both Biden and Harris, for example.
	And if I were a betting man, it wouldn't be on Gavin Newsom.
	It would be on Hillary Rodham Clinton.
	So Hillary buys them...
	They really believe this will work.
	You can even hear him say it.
	He said, well, there's more coming.
	And as Americans figure out that this is all the verdicts...
	They really believe that will derail Trump.
	They're convinced of it.
	They're convinced all we've got to do is keep Kennedy down, keep Kennedy out of the debates, so he's not a problem.
	And now we can censor again, thanks to the Supreme Court, so we can tune that up right on the eve of the election.
	And now we just need these other cases.
	And as the American people recognize these other cases, they're spending $100 million on TV advertising, highlighting almost exclusively the lawfare.
	And they really have convinced themselves this will work.
	Because he's had no good policy defenses tonight.
	I mean, there's no new policy arguments tonight.
	Like, if I was in his camp, I would have had one or two good policy proposals that I think are popular with part of the independent vote that's up in the air.
	I mean, he's talking to upper-middle-class suburbanites who don't like Trump.
	Whatever votes he's got, he's got from there.
	His problem isn't that vote.
	And credit to Trump.
	He stayed on message very, very well.
	Hasn't got distracted.
	Hasn't got detoured very often at all.
	And he's been hammering, hammer immigration, hammer these wars are a disaster, hammer the money is a disaster.
	He was like, yeah, maybe I will go out of NATO.
	Maybe we should.
	You know, he didn't let them bully him on that in any way, shape, or form.
	He said, this is lawfare.
	I'm innocent.
	Everybody knows it.
	This is just his opponent.
	This is my opponent doing it.
	Did a great job of flipping the script on abortion.
	Said, you know, who's the nuts in abortion?
	I want you, the people, to decide.
	He wants live babies to be murdered.
	Who's really radical here?
	Is it Donald Trump or is it Joe Biden?
	I mean, that was supposed to be their big winning issue in their minds, and Trump was able to flip the script on that one.
	And able to come back over and over again.
	Immigration, crime.
	I think we're back.
	The only thing I would, as I hope Trump hits the economy a little bit more, and war, you know, come back to war abroad, poverty at home.
	That's the Biden administration.
	Okay, here we go.
	We're back.
	I'm going to unmute this.
	The impact of the choice.
	That black families have to make relative to childcare is incredibly difficult.
	When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, I was able to reduce black childcare costs.
	I cut them in half, in half.
	We've got to make sure we provide for child care costs.
	We've got to make sure, because when you provide those child care protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market.
	So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done.
	But we've done a great deal so far, and I'm not letting up, and they know it.
	You have 49 seconds left.
	What do you say to Black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far?
	I said I don't blame them for being disappointed.
	Inflation is still hurting them badly.
	For example, I provided for the idea that any Black family first-time homebuyer should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started.
	I made sure that we're in a situation where all those Black families and those Black individuals who provided had to take out student loans that were ballooning.
	That if they were engaged in nursing and anything having to do with volunteerism, if they paid their bills for 10 years on student debt, all the rest is forgiven after 10 years.
	Millions have benefited from that.
	And we're going to do a whole lot more for Black families.
	Did he say $10,000 for Black families?
	And he caused the inflation.
	He's blaming inflation.
	And he's right.
	It's been very bad.
	He caused the inflation, and it's killing black families and Hispanic families and just about everybody.
	It's killing people.
	They can't buy groceries anymore.
	You look at the cost of food where it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled.
	They can't live.
	They're not living anymore.
	He caused this inflation.
	I gave him...
	A country with essentially no inflation.
	It was perfect.
	It was so good.
	All he had to do was leave it alone.
	He destroyed it with his Green News scam and all this money that's being thrown out the window.
	He caused inflation.
	As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people...
	Is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border.
	They're taking black jobs now.
	And it could be 18, it could be 19 and even 20 million people.
	They're taking black jobs and they're taking Hispanic jobs.
	And you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history.
	Thank you.
	President Biden?
	There was no inflation.
	When I became president, you know why?
	That's not a good point, you dumbass.
	50% unemployment.
	He decimated the economy.
	Absolutely decimated the economy.
	That's why there was no inflation at the time.
	There were no jobs.
	We provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals, including minority communities.
	We made sure that they have health insurance.
	And hundreds of trillionaires.
	The ACA has increased and made sure that they're $8,000 per person in a family to get written off for health care.
	But this guy wants to eliminate that.
	They tried 50 times.
	He wants to get rid of the ACA again.
	And they're going to try again if they win.
	We find ourselves in a position where the idea...
	We put more police on the street than any administration has.
	He wants to cut the cops.
	We're providing for equity.
	He wants to cut the cops.
	Making sure people have a shot.
	Oh my goodness.
	There's a lot going on.
	But in inflation, he caused it by his tremendous amount.
	Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis.
	2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes and rising sea levels.
	Former President Trump, you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis?
	Let me just go back to what he said about the police, how close the police are to him.
	Almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting Donald J. Trump.
	Almost every police group.
	And what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators.
	We can't in the 1990s.
	We can't forget that.
	Super predators was his name.
	And he called it to him.
	And they've taken great offense at it.
	And now they see it happening.
	But when they see what I did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities, where I funded them and got them all funded, and the Opportunity Zones with Tim, as you know.
	Tim Scott was incredible.
	He did a great job.
	Great senator from South Carolina.
	He came to me with the idea, and it was a great idea.
	It's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country.
	Opportunity Zones.
	And the biggest beneficiary are blacks.
	And that's why...
	We have the best numbers with them in maybe ever.
	They're saying ever.
	I read this morning where ever.
	The best numbers.
	21%.
	He's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black people.
	He's also done a horrible job for Hispanics.
	But wait till you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet.
	It's a disaster.
	38 seconds left, President Trump.
	Will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis?
	So I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air.
	We had H2O.
	We had the best numbers ever, and we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything.
	And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever.
	And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually.
	I don't know where the hell he's been.
	The idea that anything he said is true.
	I passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history.
	We find ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $50 billion for HBCUs, Historic Black Universities and Colleges, because they don't have the kind of contributors that they have.
	to build these laboratories and the like.
	Any black student is capable in college of doing it, any white student can do it.
	We're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water?
	The cleanest water?
	He hadn't done a damn thing with the environment.
	He, out of the Paris Peace Accord, I immediately joined it, because if we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius at any point, there's no way back.
	The only existential threat to humanity is climate change, and he didn't do a damn thing about it.
	He must undo all that I've done.
	The Paris Accord was going to cost us a trillion dollars.
	And China, nothing.
	And Russia, nothing.
	And India, nothing.
	The two biggest pollutants.
	It was a rip-off of the United States.
	And did nothing for the environment.
	And I ended it because I didn't want to waste that money because they treat us horribly.
	We were the only ones who was costing us money.
	Nobody else was paying it to it.
	And it was a disaster.
	But everything that he said just now...
	I'll give you an example.
	I heard him say before, insulin.
	I'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors.
	I took care of the seniors.
	What he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody.
	And look, I have the biggest heart in this stage, I guarantee you that.
	And I want to take care of people.
	But we're destroying our country.
	They're taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over Social Security.
	He is destroying Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
	The idea is that we, in fact, we were the only ones of consequence.
	We're not members of the Paris Accord.
	How can we do anything?
	The United States can't get us under control.
	One of the largest polluters in the world, number one.
	We're making significant progress.
	By 2035, we will have cut pollution in half.
	We have made significant progress.
	We set up a climate corps for thousands of years.
	The young people will learn how to deal with climate, just like the Peace Corps.
	And we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution.
	But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of that.
	And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which I was calling for one voluntarily.
	I made sure every company in the world Thank you.
	So every day, millions of Americans struggle just to make ends meet.
	For many older Americans, Social Security provides a critical lifeline.
	President Biden, if nothing is done to Social Security, seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years.
	Will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep Social Security solvent?
	Yes, make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share.
	Right now, everybody making under $170,000 pays 6%.
	Of their income, of their paycheck, every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get when they're 18 years old.
	The idea that they're going to...
	I'm not proposing that everybody they pay...
	The millionaires pay 1%.
	1%.
	So no one after...
	I would not raise the cost of Social Security for anybody under $400,000.
	After that, I began to make the wealthy begin to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life.
	So you still have 82 seconds left.
	Are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep Social Security solvent?
	Or is that one enough?
	Well, that one enough will keep it solvent.
	The biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this man, because he wants to get rid of Social Security.
	He thinks there's plenty to cut in Social Security.
	He's wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare both times.
	And if you look at the program put forward by the House Republican Caucus that he supports, he's in fact wanting to cut it as well.
	The idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.
	And by the way...
	The American public has greater health care coverage today than ever before.
	And on the ACA, as I said, you're in a circumstance where 400,000 people, I mean 40 million people, would not have insurance because they have a pre-existing condition.
	Only thing that allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they, in fact, are part of the ACA.
	And by the way, the other thing is, we're in a situation where I talk about education for black communities.
	I've raised the...
	The amount of money for Pell Grants, another $8,000.
	Anybody making under $70,000 a year is going to be able to get $15,000 towards the tuition.
	He just doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump.
	So I've dealt with politicians all my life.
	I've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years.
	I've never seen anybody lie like this guy.
	He lies.
	I've never seen anything.
	He could look you in the face.
	So many other things, too.
	And we mentioned the laptop.
	We mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
	Everything he does is a lie.
	It's misinformation and disinformation.
	The losers and suckers story that he made up is a total lie on the military.
	It's a disgrace.
	But Social Security...
	He's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them onto Social Security.
	They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid.
	They're putting them in our hospitals.
	They're taking the place of our citizens.
	What they're doing to the VA, to our veterans, is unbelievable.
	Our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels.
	He doesn't know what he's doing.
	And it's really coming back.
	I've never seen such anger in our country before.
	President Biden?
	The idea that veterans are not being taken care of, I told you before.
	By the way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledged after that he fired that general.
	That general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said.
	He was the one standing with Trump when he said it, number one.
	Number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation where all these millions and millions, the way he talks about it.
	Illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs.
	There's a reason why we have the fastest growing economy in the world.
	We're doing better than any other nation in the world.
	And by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates economists, they all said that if Trump is re-elected, we're elected to have a recession.
	And inflation is going to increase and go up.
	And by the way, worst president in history, 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in the history of the United States of America.
	President Biden, thank you so much.
	Let's turn to the cost of child care, which many American families struggle to afford.
	President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of child care in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child.
	For many families, the cost of child care for two children is more than their rent.
	In your second term, what would you do to make child care more affordable?
	Just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good.
	And if he said that, that's why he made it up.
	But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and they're very highly respected, much more so than him.
	The other thing is, he doesn't fire people.
	He never fired people.
	I've never seen him fire anybody.
	I did fire a lot.
	I fired Comey because he was no good.
	I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp.
	They were no good.
	Not easy to fire people.
	You'd pay a price for it, but they were no good.
	I inherited these people.
	I didn't put them there.
	I didn't put Comey there.
	He was no good.
	I fired him.
	This guy hasn't fired anybody.
	He never fires.
	He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan, the Afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
	He didn't fire.
	Did you fire anybody?
	Did you fire anybody that's on the border that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world?
	Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons?
	Many from mental institutions.
	Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed?
	Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate.
	This shouldn't be a debate.
	He is the worst president.
	He just said it about me because I said it.
	But look, he's the worst president in the history of our country.
	He's destroyed our country.
	Now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border.
	He came out with a nothing deal and it reduced it a little bit.
	A little bit, like this much.
	It's insignificant.
	He wants open borders.
	He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters.
	And I don't think, we just can't let it happen.
	If he wins this election, our country doesn't have a chance, not even a chance, of coming out of this rut.
	We probably won't have a country left anymore.
	That's how bad it is.
	He is the worst in history by far.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	President Biden?
	We are the most admired country in the world.
	We're the United States of America.
	There's nothing beyond our capacity.
	We have the finest military in the history of the world.
	The finest in the history of the world.
	No one thinks we're weak.
	No one wants to screw around with us.
	Nobody.
	Number one.
	Number two, the idea that we're talking about worst presidents.
	I wasn't joking.
	Look it up.
	Go online.
	159 or 58, don't hold me the exact number, presidential historians.
	They've had meetings and they voted.
	Who's the worst president in American history?
	One, best to worst.
	They said he was the worst in all of American history.
	That's a fact.
	That's not conjecture.
	He can argue they're wrong, but that's what they voted.
	The idea that he is knowing, doing anything to deal with childcare.
	He did virtually nothing to childcare.
	We should significantly increase the childcare tax credit.
	We should significantly increase the availability of women and men, of single parents, to be able to go back to work, and we should encourage businesses to hold, to Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump, the question was about what would you do to make childcare more affordable, if you want to take your minute.
	Just so you understand, we have polling, we have other things that they rate him the worst, because what he's done is so bad.
	And they rate me, I'll show you, I will show you, and they rate me one of the best, okay?
	And if I'm given another four years, I will be the best.
	I think I'll be the best.
	Nobody's ever created an economy like us.
	Nobody ever cut taxes like us.
	He's the only one I know.
	He wants to raise your taxes by four times.
	He wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times.
	He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire.
	So everybody, including the two of you, are going to pay four to five times.
	Nobody ever heard of this before.
	All my life I'd grow up and I'd see politicians talking about cutting taxes.
	When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business.
	Money back into our country.
	The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it.
	President Biden?
	Look, the fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about it.
	He's increased the tariff.
	He will increase the taxes on middle-class people.
	I said I'd never raise a tax on anybody making less than $400,000.
	I didn't.
	But this tariff is 10% tariff.
	Everything coming into the country, you know what the economists say?
	That's going to cost the average American.
	How about you bring manufacturing home, you dumbass?
	You have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are really important.
	Food's important?
	He's in a situation where he talks about how he has not raised...
	He's somehow helped the middle class.
	The middle class has been devastated by you.
	Now you want a new tax cut of $5 trillion over the next 10 years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country.
	You have the largest deficit of any president in American history, number one.
	Number two, you have not, in fact, made any contact, any progress with China.
	We are the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	Let's discuss an epidemic impacting millions of Americans that both of you have made a top priority in your first term, the opioid crisis.
	And for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has gone up.
	Under your term, it went up.
	Under your term, it has gone up.
	Former President Trump, despite the efforts that both of you have made, more than 100,000 Americans are dying from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids.
	What will you do to help Americans right now in the throats of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
	To finish up, we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy.
	We have the largest deficit with China.
	He gets paid by China.
	He's a Manchurian candidate.
	He gets money from China.
	So I think he's afraid to deal with them or something.
	But do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that I imposed on China.
	He never took them away.
	He can't because it's too much money.
	It's tremendous.
	And we saved our steel industries and there was more to come.
	But he hasn't done that.
	But he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't, because it's too much money.
	But he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country.
	And he's got the worst.
	The worst situation with China.
	China's going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country.
	They are killing us as a country, Joe, and you can't let that happen.
	You're destroying our country.
	So, President Trump, you have 67 seconds left.
	The question was, what are you going to do to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
	Jake, we were doing very well at addiction until the COVID came along.
	We had...
	The two and a half, almost three years, like nobody's ever had before, any country, in every way.
	And then we had to get tough.
	And it was the drugs pouring across the border were...
	It started to increase.
	We got great equipment.
	We bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen, the way they can spot it.
	We did a lot, and we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers.
	Then he came along.
	The numbers, have you seen the numbers now?
	It's not only the 18 million people that I believe is even low, because the gotaways, they don't even talk about gotaways, but the numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women.
	Coming across our border, the worst thing I've ever seen at numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the border is so bad.
	But the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far.
	President Trump, thank you.
	President Biden?
	Fentanyl and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for a while.
	And I wanted to make sure we use the machinery that can detect fentanyl.
	These big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border.
	And it costs a lot of money.
	That was part of this deal we put together, this bipartisan deal.
	More fentanyl machines, more to be able to detect drugs, more numbers of agents, more numbers of all the people at the border.
	And when we had that deal done, he called his Republican colleagues and said, don't do it.
	It's going to hurt me politically.
	He never argued it's not a good bill.
	It's a really good bill.
	We need those machines.
	We need those machines.
	And we're coming down very hard in every country in Asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl.
	And Mexico is working with us to make sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together.
	That's what we have to do.
	We need those machines.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump, and again, the question is about Americans in the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need.
	Because this does pertain it.
	He ended Remain in Mexico.
	He ended catch and release.
	I made a catch and release in Mexico, not catch and release here.
	We had so many things that we had done, hard negotiations with Mexico, and I got it all for nothing.
	It's just like when you have a hostage.
	We always pay $6 billion for a hostage.
	Every time we say there's a hostage.
	Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter.
	I think a good guy.
	And he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars.
	For the reporter, I will have him out very quickly.
	As soon as I take office, before I take office, I said, by literally, as soon as I win the election, I will have that reporter out.
	He should have had him out a long time ago.
	But Putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time.
	We had two cases.
	We paid six billion dollars for five people.
	I got 58 people out and I paid essentially nothing.
	Thank you, President Trump, Dana.
	Let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you.
	President Biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term.
	How do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s?
	Well, first of all, I spent half my career being...
	in politics.
	Yeah, that was last century.
	I've never elected the United States Senate, and now I'm the oldest.
	This guy's three years younger and a lot less competent.
	I think that just look at the record.
	Look at what I've done.
	Look how I've turned around the horrible situation he left me.
	As I said, 15 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, more investment in America.
	Over millions, billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing.
	By the way, we brought an awful lot of people, the whole idea of computer chips.
	We still have 40% of the market.
	We invented those chips, and we lost it.
	Because he was sending people to find the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring home a product.
	So I went to South Korea.
	I don't understand what you're saying right now.
	Billions of dollars here in the United States.
	And guess what?
	Those fabs they call to build these chips.
	Those fabs pay over $100,000.
	You don't need a college degree for them.
	And there's billions, about $40 billion already being invested and being built right now.
	In the United States, creating significant jobs for Americans from all over the world.
	President Biden, you have 40 seconds left.
	Would you like to add anything?
	Yeah, I would.
	The idea that somehow we are this failing country.
	I've never heard a president talk like this before.
	We're the envy of the world.
	Name me a single major.
	We're a country president who wouldn't trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities.
	We're the most progressive country in the world in getting things done.
	We're the strongest country in the world.
	We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us, all of our allies and those who he coddles up to from Kim Jong-un who sends love letters to Putin, etc.
	They don't want to screw around with us.
	Thank you.
	Former President Trump, to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term.
	What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve?
	Well, I took two tests, cognitive tests.
	I aced them, both of them, as you know.
	We made it public.
	He took none.
	I'd like to see him take one, just one, a real easy one.
	Like, go through the first five questions.
	He couldn't do it.
	But I took two cognitive tests.
	I took physical exams every year.
	And, you know...
	We knock on wood, wherever we may have wood, that I'm in very good health.
	I just won two club championships, not even senior, two regular club championships.
	To do that, you have to be quite smart, and you have to be able to hit the ball a long way, and I do it.
	He doesn't do it.
	He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
	He challenged me to a golf match.
	He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
	I think I'm in very good shape.
	I feel that I'm as in good a shape as I was 25, 30 years ago.
	Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter, but I'm in...
	As good a shape as I was years ago.
	This is a destruction, Robert.
	But I was willing to take a cognitive test.
	And you know what?
	If I didn't do well, I aced him.
	Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who's a great guy, when he was a White House doctor.
	And then I took another one, a similar one.
	And one of them said they'd never seen anybody ace him.
	Thank you.
	President Biden?
	You can see he is 6 '5 and only 223 pounds.
	Or 235 pounds.
	Well, you said 6 '4", 200.
	Well, anyway, that's what you're...
	Anyway, just take a look at what he says he is and take a look at what he is.
	Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
	I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, down to a six.
	And by the way, I told you before I'm happy to play golf.
	Think you can do it?
	That's the biggest ride when he's a six handicap of all.
	I was an agent in the cabinet.
	You know how many?
	I've seen your swing.
	Let's not act like children.
	To a specific concern that voters have about you, will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins, and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable?
	Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course I believe that.
	It's totally unacceptable.
	And if you would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time, and also my statement that I made on the Rose Garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen.
	In addition to the speech I made, in front of, I believe, the largest crowd I've ever spoken to, and I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that.
	They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol, and in many cases were ushered in by the police.
	And as Nancy Pelosi said, It was her responsibility, not mine.
	She said that loud and clear.
	But the answer is, if the election is fair, free, and I want that more than anybody.
	And I'll tell you something.
	I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now.
	I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself.
	I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent because he indicted me because I was his opponent.
	I wish he was a great president.
	I would rather have that.
	I wouldn't be here.
	I don't mind being here.
	But the only reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president that I'm going to make America great again.
	We're going to make America great again.
	We're a failing nation right now.
	We're a seriously failing nation.
	And we're a failing nation because of him.
	His policies are so bad.
	His military policies are insane.
	They're insane.
	These are wars that will never end with him.
	He will drive us into World War III, and we're closer to World War III than anybody can imagine.
	We are very, very close to World War III, and he's driving us there.
	And Kim Jong-un and President Xi of China, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, all of these are Putin.
	They don't respect him.
	They don't fear him.
	They have nothing going with this gentleman, and he's going to drive us into World War III.
	World of World War III.
	Let him follow and win and let Putin say, "Do what you want, NATO.
	Just do what you want." There's a thing called Article 5. An attack on one is attack on all.
	Look at that demand.
	Required response.
	The idea.
	The idea.
	I can't think of a single major leader in the world who wouldn't trade places with the job I've done and what they've done.
	Yeah.
	Because we are a powerful nation.
	We have wonderful people.
	It's because of the people.
	Not me.
	It's because of the American people.
	They're capable of anything.
	They step up when they're needed.
	And right now, we're needed to protect the world because of our own safety as a state.
	And again, you want to have a war, just let Putin go ahead and take Kiev, make sure they move on, see what happens in Poland, Hungary, and other places along that border.
	Then you have a war.
	He's a corpse.
	President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow-up.
	The question was, will you accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins?
	Just to finish what he said, if I might.
	Russia.
	They took a lot of land from Bush.
	They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden.
	They took no land, nothing from Trump.
	Nothing.
	He knew not to do it.
	Not going to play games with me.
	He knew that.
	I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games.
	He took nothing from me.
	But now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here.
	That's a war that should have never started.
	It would have never started ever with me.
	And he's going to take Ukraine.
	And, you know, you asked me a question before.
	Would you do this?
	He's got us in such a bad position right now with Ukraine and Russia.
	Because Ukraine's not winning that war.
	He said, I will never settle until such time.
	They're running out of people.
	They're running out of soldiers.
	They've lost so many people.
	It's so sad.
	They've lost so many people, and they've lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are a thousand years old, all because of him and stupid decisions.
	Russia would have never attacked if I were president.
	President Trump, the question was, will you accept the results of the election, regardless of who wins?
	Yes or no, please.
	If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely.
	I would have much rather accepted these.
	But the fraud and everything else was ridiculous.
	And if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week.
	Or we'll have another one of these on it in a week.
	He's not blinking.
	He's shitting his pants right now.
	Absolutely.
	There's nothing I'd rather do.
	It would be much easier for me to do that than running again.
	I wasn't really going to run until I saw the horrible job he did.
	He's destroying our country.
	I would be very happy to be someplace else, in a nice location someplace.
	And again, no indictments, no political opponent stuff, because it's the only way he thinks he can win.
	But unfortunately, it's driven up my numbers and driven them up to a very high level, because the people understand it.
	Let's see what your numbers are when this election is over.
	Let's see.
	You're a whiner.
	When you lost the first time, you continued, you appealed and appealed to courts all across the country.
	Not one single court in America said any of your claims, said any mayor, state or local, none.
	But you continue to provoke this lie about somehow there's all this misrepresentation, all this stealing.
	There is no evidence of that at all.
	And I tell you what, I doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner.
	The idea if you lose again, you accepted anything, you can't stand the loss.
	Something snapped and you wouldn't have lost the last time.
	We'll be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate live from Georgia.
	I thought it was 90 minutes.
	Is it longer than that?
	This is the most painful thing I've ever seen, Robert.
	And I've had a...
	I've had...
	What's it called?
	I've had a colonoscopy.
	Okay, we'll leave this here.
	Trump has stayed on message very, very well.
	Stayed cool, nonchalant all the way through.
	Kept bringing everything back to immigration.
	Social Security, tied in immigration.
	Jobs, tied in immigration.
	Issues impacting the black community, tied in immigration.
	Social Security, tied in immigration.
	Medicare, tied in immigration.
	Talked about opioids, tied in immigration.
	Over and over again, back to back to back.
	Immigration, economy, war abroad.
	Coming back, coming back, coming back.
	Very good job staying on message, which Trump doesn't always do.
	Some of these debates he's letting go away.
	It's a little easier when he's dealing with who he's dealing with.
	Just so everybody knows, this is straight up.
	De-alcoholized beer.
	It's disgusting.
	Somebody out there in the chat will know, there was a character called Mumbles, I believe played by Dustin Hoffman, in the movie Dick Tracy, that Warren Beatty played Dick Tracy.
	And I realized, as Biden was talking, I was like, holy cow, that's Mumbles from Dick Tracy!
	I would say, if it were Mumbles, I'd say Ron Perlman.
	But hold on, Robert, while you mention that, and someone who looks up that answer, Robert, if you're talking about how they can go and Resolve Kamala and Joe at the same time.
	Is Air Force One made by Boeing?
	I know they were talking about it with Trump, but I'm telling you, Gavin Newsom is having an orgasm at home right now and probably alone.
	Oh my goodness.
	We see what the message is.
	I thought he would come up with something new.
	A new policy that...
	Could drag attention.
	And a new rhetorical point.
	Instead, he went back to the, you know, he was making the same point from the 2020 debate.
	Okay, I'm going to play in my dead son.
	I'm going to make up a statement that Trump said something bad about veterans, which nobody believes.
	There's other statements people will believe about Trump, even if they're not true.
	They're not going to believe he bashed veterans.
	They're not going to believe he bashed soldiers.
	No one's ever going to believe that.
	That's completely incredulous from day one.
	They could get away with the Charlottesville lie because they could believe that he had said something positive about the people at Charlottesville that were causing the trouble.
	But they're never going to get away with that lie.
	He repeated that line from 2020.
	I mean, it was like he thought that was going to be a dramatic moment.
	It's like, pow, it's four years later.
	I mean, he's completely...
	Whatever drugs they have him on, it's not good enough to sustain what sustained the 2020 debate.
	He's not as sharp.
	I mean, he's mumbles.
	I mean, he's literally mumbles.
	I think he's cussed four times.
	I mean, this is not, this is, you know, dementia Joe.
	This is mumbles Joe.
	And so I think that Biden has done poorly, didn't hit the points he needed to, didn't get the resonance he needed to, didn't get the drama he needed to.
	And Trump has done a very good job of staying right on message and really good at the end there because they were trying to avoid the foreign policy disasters.
	of the Biden administration.
	And Trump brought it right back in, used any question to come back to, this guy's going to give you World War III.
	Look at what's happening in the Middle East.
	Look at what's happening in Ukraine and Russia.
	Look at what's happening on our border.
	You're going to have World War III if you let this dementia Joe continue to be the President of the United States.
	I think it's come back now.
	Hold on one second, because I accidentally closed the window.
	I was looking for mumbles.
	Okay, we're back.
	We're back.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	We've made significant progress.
	We find ourselves in a situation where, number one, we have to make sure that we have a fair tax system.
	I ask anyone out there in the audience, or anyone out watching this debate, do you think the tax system is fair?
	The fact is that, I said, nobody even making under $400,000 had a single penny increasing their taxes, and if I'm re-elected, that will be the case again.
	But this guy has increased your taxes because of the deficit, number one.
	He's increased inflation because of the debacle he left after where he handled the pandemic.
	And he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything that comes in the United States of America.
	As if that's a problem.
	For example, he wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare for the ability for us to be able to negotiate.
	Is this a fucking joke?
	Is this a joke?
	You know what that did?
	That reduced the federal deficit by $160 billion over 10 years, because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices.
	I'm going to make that available to every senior all along, and it's happening now, and everybody in America.
	He wants to get rid of that.
	I'm going to make sure that we have childcare.
	We're going to significantly increase the credits people have for childcare.
	We're going to make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country.
	We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break.
	Thank you, President Biden.
	President Trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement.
	Oh, my God.
	Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer.
	He said, we want to do this.
	We want to do that.
	We want to get rid of this tax.
	You've been in power for four years, you dumbass.
	But he doesn't do anything.
	All he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in.
	Our military doesn't respect him.
	We look like fools in Afghanistan.
	We didn't stop.
	Israel, it was such a horrible thing.
	That would have never happened.
	It should have never happened.
	Iran was broke.
	Anybody that did business with Iran, including China, they couldn't do business with the United States.
	They all passed.
	Iran was broke.
	They had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah for terror.
	No money whatsoever.
	Again, Ukraine should have never happened.
	He talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it.
	For three and a half years, we're living in hell.
	We have the Palestinians and we have everybody else rioting all over the place.
	You talk about Charlottesville.
	This is a hundred times Charlottesville, a thousand times Charlottesville.
	The whole country is exploding because of you, because they don't respect you, and they have to respect their president, and they don't respect you throughout the world.
	What we did was incredible.
	We rebuilt the military.
	We got the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulation cut in history.
	The reason he's got jobs is because I cut the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on.
	All of the things that we've done, nobody's ever seen anything.
	Even from a medical standpoint, right to try, where we can try space-age materials instead of going to Asia or going to Europe and trying to get when you're terminally ill, now you can go and you can get.
	You sign a document.
	They've been trying to get it for 42 years.
	But, you know, what we did for the military was an incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers, instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up and take care of themselves, and they're living.
	And that's why I had the highest approval rating in the history of the VA.
	So all of these things.
	We're in a failing nation, but it's not going to be failing anymore.
	We're going to make it great again.
	Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden.
	Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate.
	Yeah, I don't think we care for their analysis.
	Now on CNN.
	Okay, so we're...
	Holy shit.
	Robert, I'm telling you...
	What's Biden's nominee odds now?
	Let me pull this out.
	It's the worst thing I've...
	I don't want to show the amount of money that I've put on.
	Robert, I put several hundred dollars on this.
	I stand to make a lot if this goes down.
	Biden is now at 73 cents.
	He's down 13 cents.
	And Gavin Newsom is up 9 cents.
	To 17 cents.
	This was the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.
	I thought it was good.
	The only way this could have been worse is if Joe Biden physically passed away while they were...
	But that would have only solidified my bet.
	This was the most outrageous.
	I just want everyone to know I'm not drinking alcohol profusely.
	I'm just drinking compulsively de-alcoholized beer because I got to do something to get the nervous energy out.
	This was terrible.
	He didn't blink.
	There's a meme that is doing very well on Twitter in our locals community that said, that face when your son's talkie cocktail works off.
	Robert, let me read some of the super chats of the Rumble Rants.
	Mighty Pest says, it's Bill Brown's birthday tonight.
	Bill Brown, happy birthday.
	Shout out for happy birthday to Bill.
	Bill Brown, Templeton's owner, United States Marine Corps.
	Am I allowed saying how old are you turned, Bill?
	44. He's 44 years young.
	He's an amazing member of our community.
	Happy birthday, Bill.
	Ithaca37Cato says, What happened to locals in Rumble at the beginning of the debate?
	Kept getting 401 messages.
	I think they got overloaded with traffic because I'm just looking at the numbers on Rumble.
	Wild numbers in terms of aggregate viewership.
	So I think that's probably what happened.
	We got Denise Antu.
	Joe Biden just completely lied on national television.
	To be clear, we never have and never will endorse Biden, said the Border Patrol Union.
	That's funny.
	Then we got Denise Antu.
	This is Biden after over a week of rest at Camp David, and there are still people who think he should be president.
	Denise Antu says, I can't with this idiot.
	And have we all lost way too many brain cells watching Joe during this debate?
	I just choked on my dinner when Biden said Trump is less competent than him.
	Joe is a turtle.
	Joe a turtle.
	Is more competent than you.
	Oh, Joe Eternal is more competent than you.
	And we've got Ithaca37Cato.
	He's not blinking his eyes.
	It looks like Biden isn't blinking his eyes tonight.
	Sign of drugs.
	He was not blinking his eyes tonight.
	And I don't know if we had any Rumble rants in Rumble, but I can't find any.
	I saw some reference that could be L-Dopa, could be Adderall.
	Some people say it could be Parkinson's.
	So that's funny.
	My mother said Parkinson's for Joe, the way he freezes up.
	And I was like, I would have thought, even if it were Parkinson's, we would have seen some early onset symptoms like four years ago.
	I've never seen trembling.
	But this was worse than I could have thought it would have gone.
	Someone says maybe a combination of Probigil and Adderall on a time-release delay, and that may explain they may have dosed him right before he went on stage, and that's why he was a little bit bad before, then sort of pieced out a little bit, and then kind of lost at the end.
	Until his empty says, Rich Barris was on fire on Twitter.
	Unbelievable.
	I have to go.
	I'll see what he was saying.
	There was another super tip.
	I mean, they can keep him in mumble state, you know, not totally incoherent, but I mean, your closing argument, you confuse lead paint with the lead pipe?
	I'm going to solve your biggest health problem, the lead pipe.
	But even if he meant lead pipes...
	When the hell do they talk about lead pipes tonight?
	People are going to think of lead pipe over the head.
	From the illegal immigrants you're letting in.
	And Trump just looked like a replay of 2020 except they swapped in a corpse for Biden and Trump was the same.
	Trump was much better on cue because in 2020 he allowed himself to get distracted.
	He had a good...
	The nomination speech that they did from the White House, where he hammered, you know, Joe Biden will send your kids overseas to die and send your jobs overseas forever.
	It was a good combination of those issues, and he didn't hammer those consistently in the debates.
	This one he came back to over and over and over again, that the economy is the core, inflation sucks, immigration is causing all the problems, Biden is a disaster, we're probably going to have World War III.
	I would like him to distill that to, with Joe Biden, you get war abroad and poverty at home.
	With Donald Trump, you already know what you get.
	You don't have to guess.
	You get peace abroad and prosperity at home.
	I would like, you know, that simple hammered, but at least thematically, it was consistent throughout.
	That was the...
	Underlying subtext and a great job bringing immigration back in over and over.
	They wanted him distracted by these past bogus scandals that he would go off on.
	And he did a good job not doing that very often.
	There's a couple of times I thought he spent too much time on it, but it was limited.
	He did a good job.
	I mean, even connecting the issues of what happened to the black community, to the Hispanic community, what's happening with opioids, what's happening with health care, what's happening with child care, what's happening with jobs, what's happening with inflation.
	He brought it back over and over again.
	It's this guy's immigration policy.
	It's this guy's immigration policy.
	This guy's immigration policy.
	You wonder why you can't get a good job?
	It's the immigration policy.
	And then Biden confirmed that.
	Oh, the illegal immigrants is why our economy numbers are so good.
	That means it sucked for ordinary people, Joe.
	So they did not have him well prepped.
	This confirms to me what I've thought about the Democratic Party messaging.
	It's all about not Trump.
	It's all about the lawfare.
	And they really live in their own world, in their own little cocktail circuit, that they think these issues still resonate, that they think these issues still matter.
	I mean, that's why, as you were talking about before the debate started, they're like, why doesn't everybody think the economy is great?
	Because for the ordinary person, it's not.
	It's so obscene.
	And by the way, predicted now, Biden is just, he hit his lowest yet, 64 cents, down from 87. You're seeing people that actually put their money on it.
	So we'll see what fake CNN poll does.
	I'm really curious because nobody could watch that debate and conclude that Biden won the debate or Biden did better.
	We're going to have to really doctor the numbers to get that in.
	Robert, I don't involve people who do not want to get involved in public debate.
	I was just getting DMs from private people who are by no means ideologically aligned with me saying, holy shit, this is bad.
	It's the worst thing I've ever seen.
	It's like watching a beautiful animal.
	It's like Fight Club.
	It's like watching something beautiful die.
	I'm going to read a bunch of the tips from Rumble.
	Ray at K says, does anyone else think Biden looked like he was crying or going to cry?
	He wasn't blinking.
	It was crazy.
	Sad Wings Raging says, I drank enough for both of us, Viva, and I haven't drank in a year.
	Slow down because you might have a rough morning.
	The Jack One says, this was bizarre.
	It feels tragic to me.
	Elder abuse.
	Trump was doing well.
	Wonder if the structure forced Trump to focus.
	Trump was definitely more focused than he was four years ago.
	And we've got Rick Cortez.
	Says, the last time I saw a debate like this, it was a Canadian clubbing a baby arm seal.
	So everyone's on the same plane as me.
	It feels like we just saw something beautiful die.
	It was embarrassing and humiliating.
	In our Locals community, Robert, Freedom First and Free says Biden stated Trump had 0% inflation face bomb.
	Yes!
	Okay, I need some people to remember the highlights.
	He said when you came at 0% inflation because the economy was doing so bad?
	Someone's got to clip that because that was a glorious flub among many.
	Pasha Moyer says, I joined terribly late, away from a commitment, but my wife filled me in.
	You guys shine, even to a tardy guy like me.
	Pasha Moyer, five bucks, thank you.
	Ithaca37Cato, Biden on drugs may be a mix of the good fentanyl and his own urine and depends poop.
	We've got TextMaster, does this jeopardize the Democrats allowing a second debate because of this performance?
	Robert, what was the rule for the second?
	Was there going to be a second debate?
	Yeah, there's already a second one scheduled for, I think, a little after Labor Day.
	Labor Day is in September.
	Yeah.
	It's not going to be Biden.
	It's not going to be Biden.
	I'm still betting on Biden.
	They're stuck in terms of being the nominee.
	I think the problem they have is how do they remove Biden and Harris and have somebody who's more popular than Biden or Harris?
	And that's where they have a major flaw.
	I'm going to ask Ethan.
	Did you watch the debate?
	Yeah.
	Was it the worst thing you've ever seen?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll be up there in about five or ten minutes.
	And just so you know, these are de-alcoholized beer.
	Get out of here.
	They are.
	They're there.
	It was so bad.
	It's okay.
	Hold on.
	That's the president, Dad?
	That's the president?
	When are we moving out of America?
	That is the concerning thing.
	Like, holy shit, this guy's been in charge.
	He has not been in charge for four years because it's been somebody else.
	I think Trump had as a trump card.
	Announcing his VP tonight, but when he saw that this was going to be a wipeout, he was like, oh, I can save that card for later.
	I'd say more of a blowout.
	There was a part where you saw me putting my phone to my ear where I heard something go, and I don't know who it was.
	It might have been the mic from the announcers.
	Oh, by the way, apparently CNN was doing some hand signals to Biden.
	Some people flagged that on the internet, that at various points, Dana Bush was trying to...
	Point to different things to help Uncle Joe out.
	The mumbles out.
	I mean, I understand what their logic is.
	They think, hey, just get up there, show that you're not completely dementia Joe, and remind everybody Trump bad.
	Well, he didn't even do that.
	The problem is he's playing off the 2020 script.
	The lawfare's already not working.
	And they're not recognizing that the lawfare is not working.
	And they're just doubling down on it.
	They're just assuming, well, it's going to take a little while.
	It's going to take a little longer.
	What happens if the Supreme Court comes in and says he does have immunity?
	That's going to derail.
	Might they issue that decision?
	Either tomorrow or Monday, that decision is coming out.
	Look at this, Robert.
	Well, I didn't say that to anybody.
	I said peacefully and patriotically.
	And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago.
	On tape to her daughter, who's a documentary filmmaker.
	Look at Joe.
	Staring.
	Unblinking.
	What's touching his ear for?
	That was weird.
	So I just said, I only asked...
	Not working.
	Your phone not working.
	We're up to 1183 reposts.
	So let's go make sure that that gets its way into the news tomorrow.
	I'll share that with everybody.
	Yeah, it ended up being a disaster for Biden.
	I mean, I think Dana Bash really thought she would get something on Trump on abortion or thought she would get Trump on the 2024 election.
	And Trump refused to take the bait and she was not.
	I mean, neither one of them are equipped.
	I remember Megyn Kelly was subscribed by Rupert Murdoch at Fox to take Trump out of the first Republican debate.
	And Megyn Kelly is a very skilled interlocutor.
	And when Trump walked all over her, when she was like, hey, look at all the things you've called women.
	And Trump was like, only Rosie O'Donnell.
	And boom, the whole crowd breaks out laughing.
	And Megyn Kelly was like, okay, this is over.
	This is already over.
	The attempt to take him out is done.
	It's gone.
	She thought she had the perfect point, this great rhetorical thing.
	You've called women this and this and this.
	And then bam, he just neuters it in a heartbeat.
	There's no way Dana Bash was going to take Trump out.
	What I did think was they would do a better job of having Biden prepped for some one positive policy proposal that makes a big difference between he and Trump that can work with young working class voters.
	For example, I thought student debt, that can cut different ways depending on who the voter group is.
	It didn't even come up tonight.
	And then the second is I thought they would have something personal to get Trump sufficiently distracted that could be a viral video moment out of this.
	They don't have any.
	The only viral video moments are of Joe Biden, mumbling Joe Biden, saying Trump gave you 0% inflation.
	And he tried to do that moment where, you know, my son and da-da-da-da, but that's a 2020 script.
	Didn't even work.
	People couldn't understand what he was saying.
	And then the...
	And Trump was great.
	This was a more disciplined Trump than he's been in any debate I've seen.
	He stayed on message all the way through.
	They may regret not having an audience there.
	They may regret things that can otherwise distract Trump.
	And also, something that could have encouraged Biden, hearing a bunch of barking seals might have encouraged him to think, I'm doing something right, even though I'm an idiot and I have no idea what I'm doing.
	There was one point where Trump said something, and I said it at the time, that could be the snippet and the clippet that'll make him look bad.
	No, but by and large, beyond reproach.
	Trump was beyond reproach.
	And Biden was an abject disaster from the first five minutes.
	And Joe Biden doesn't have a golf handicap.
	He just is handicapped.
	Like LBJ, but retarded, Robert.
	He's at 62 cents.
	He's at 62 cents now.
	And Gavin Newsom is up to 24. And I am up in multiple digits.
	Based on that, I'm not trying to impact the markets.
	My prediction...
	So far has been the most accurate, and I'm going to run on that.
	All right, Robert, what happens now?
	So this debate occurs.
	The next one's scheduled for after in September.
	The RNC convention comes up in Milwaukee in...
	Two weeks, give or take.
	Say three weeks.
	Yes, and we'll be there.
	We'll be there live from Milwaukee.
	Touch wood, Robert.
	Touch wood.
	We'll figure out the details.
	But what's the DNC?
	That's in Chicago?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Can you imagine?
	Do you know what the greatest disaster of a Democratic convention was in Democratic Party history?
	1968, Chicago.
	And it was right after they took out a candidate.
	You know what I mean?
	You couldn't.
	And it was LBJ's vice president being the candidate, right?
	So you got LBJ butt retarded, going back to Chicago, being challenged by a Kennedy, in a place where they're going to have a bunch of rabid nutjob protesters.
	I mean, they are setting that up for a disaster.
	If I may ask you, when you say setting up for a disaster, do you mean an assassination disaster or just like...
	A political disaster.
	It depends on how they manage it and how they try to manage it.
	I don't see how they're going to do it well at this point.
	The goal with this was to be a game changer because Biden's behind.
	Biden is the one who needed the debate, not Trump.
	Biden is trailing by every key metric, has been now, really for a year.
	If you track the numbers that Barris and I were talking about, we were saying this was two years in the making.
	Largely because working class minority, it's not that anybody who voted in 2020 has really changed their mind.
	That's a very small number.
	The big difference is people who did not vote in 2020 saying they're going to vote for Trump by a 20 to 25 point margin.
	He lost that new vote in 2020.
	He's winning it by massive margins in 2024.
	And it's overwhelmingly coming from working class minorities and millennials and Zoomers who think the economy sucks, don't like all the war stuff overseas.
	The only thing I would have done if I was Trump up there is I would have thrown in there, Biden wants to draft you.
	Well, what's this crazy?
	You want to draft women now.
	Well, why would you want to draft you?
	This is crazy.
	We don't need a draft.
	We don't need these foreign wars.
	That's the only other couple of, you know, there were about three or four little tidbits I would have thrown in there.
	But otherwise, Trump really, you know, a nine out of ten.
	And Biden, 4 out of 10. You know, he didn't die on stage.
	That's all you can say for it.
	Robert, I'm wondering if Dana Bash is thinking, I might vote for Trump now.
	Let me see if I can bring up...
	Can I bring up this?
	Here, let's see.
	Is this going to be it?
	Here we go.
	Can we see this?
	Robert, it's 64 cents.
	It was at 87 cents.
	And Newsom was at...
	Nine?
	The thing I regret is not thinking about shorting this and putting it out on sports picks.
	Well, Robert, I think I got the tie color right.
	I got the American flag right, but I thought it would be a striped tie.
	I didn't think you would do this.
	The other people dress him up.
	He doesn't dress himself, of course.
	And I'll have to go back and look at how we did on some of the other debate picks that were just kind of fun bet picks.
	My only thing is I doubled down because I bet on Gavin and I bet against Joe Biden.
	But my big bet is on Donald Trump's VP pick.
	I lost it on Vivek.
	I had Vivek at like six cents and then I sold him at eight and he was up to 20 cents yesterday.
	But I'm on J.D. Vance.
	I like him and I have a little bit on Doug Burgum just to hedge my bets.
	Okay, so...
	First of all, we're having a Sunday show, right?
	We're on schedule for Sunday.
	Oh, yeah.
	Going to have some SCOTUS decisions.
	We'll save it.
	We have a bunch more.
	Horrendous decisions to discuss.
	We got some great decisions to discuss, and hopefully we'll have more great decisions to discuss.
	At least we only want one, Robert.
	Let me bring up, I'm not going to bring them up, I'm just going to go to tips and make sure I get all these.
	Boopsy2Bucks says, how long were you guys on?
	I finally got at the end because Rumble and Lokes was shut down.
	I had to watch effing YouTube.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	Govea, by the way, Fortune, what is it called?
	Fortune favors the brave.
	Govea went all on.
	YouTube.
	And he was doing very well.
	So he took a chance and he didn't get taken down.
	But he's a freaking lawyer.
	Take down a lawyer, Biatch, and ask for the fight you get.
	So Govea was live on YouTube, I think as was Nierman.
	But no, I wanted to keep this on Locals.
	Look.
	Too much traffic is a very good problem to have.
	Cliff Norman says they are dumping the walking mummy after this disaster.
	Ithaca 37 Cato.
	Dems will replace Bryden with this guy, and it's a rabbit.
	And we got BlueCWSoldier3.
	One Buck says, what a time to be alive on the verge of World War III, and he's too demented to string together a sentence without mumbling.
	And then we go, I can't wait for the DNC convention in Chicago.
	That's from Rage Thunder.
	Thank you for being here for us tonight.
	Until is empty.
	No VP announcement, says Ithaca37Cato.
	Yeah, and no leak.
	No leak either, because they didn't announce it and there was no leak.
	Trump's keeping it here.
	Nobody knows but him.
	Trump should demand RFK Jr. join the next debate.
	Will he?
	There will be.
	I don't think there's going to be a next debate.
	This was entertaining, says Florida Gaterman.
	Biden stated that Trump had zero percent.
	And there was a point where I said at some point, everyone who's feel free to clip it, Biden was channeling RFK's points that you were saying.
	You mean Trump was?
	Sorry, Trump was channeling, yes, RFK's points.
	He did it once on the mandate for the vaccine.
	And I wish you would have come back to that a couple of more times.
	That was one of the points I thought he could have hammered a couple.
	I also thought he could have put in crypto.
	Because he's jumped on that.
	The only couple of things he missed was, you know, including hammering Biden a little bit more on the vaccine mandates, hitting Biden on crypto, which is popular with a certain subconstituency that Kennedy first tapped and that Trump is now tapping.
	And those two for sure.
	And then, you know, framing it as...
	Trump equals peace.
	Trump equals prosperity.
	Biden equals war.
	Biden equals poverty.
	He did it substantively, but I would have liked the thematic framing so it's more memorable.
	But otherwise, I thought, you know, exceptional job.
	You know, 9 out of 10 for Trump.
	4 out of 10 for Biden.
	Biden basically did the way he did in school, which is barely pass.
	4 on 10 is generous.
	Heart tackle.
	In Rumble, Five Bucks says, Trump needs to go fishing.
	Well, hold on.
	Let me bring it up, actually, just because we all like Trump.
	Not Trump, but heart tackle.
	Bada bing, bada boom, right here.
	Trump needs to go fishing.
	Let's go, heart tackle.
	Last time I saw a debate like this, it was a Canadian clubbing a babysitter at Brazil.
	This was bizarre, Jack.
	And we got, I drank enough for both of us, Viva.
	I haven't drank in a year.
	And then we got a new member.
	I can't read it.
	It says...
	Rita110 is now a member.
	And then we've got Chet Chisholm in the house.
	Chet's our boy up in Canada, East Coast.
	I hope you guys will take the time to listen to RFK's debate.
	At the time of posting this, he has 4.6 million people watching.
	CNN only has...
	Brilliant idea of Kennedy to stage a parallel debate.
	Had John Stossel there sort of doing follow-up questions.
	I thought that was very good.
	I'm definitely going to tune in to what he said.
	If Kennedy was there tonight, it would have been a much more fun, engaging, interesting, higher ratings debate.
	Zero doubt about that.
	Just for Chet, the millions of views versus viewers are different.
	It might be aggregate views, which is still going to come to the same.
	Kennedy was getting over a million plus live.
	I saw that he was getting a million plus live.
	Just on Twitter.
	Alex Jones was getting almost half a million live just on Twitter.
	Not including his Infowars platform, his band.video platform, another platform, Rumble platform, another one.
	So, what's interesting is, this is revolutionary we've seen tonight, that despite CNN's efforts to suppress between X and Rumble, most Americans will have, more Americans will have watched this on X and Rumble than watched it on CNN by a long mile.
	Just to point out, on Twitter, the number is the aggregate views and not live concurrent viewers, but that doesn't make a difference, because if you want to measure views...
	But they also now, what's interesting is they were capturing live viewers.
	For a period of time.
	When they were watching live.
	Amazing.
	I think we got everything, Robert.
	This was a fucking disaster for Biden.
	Period.
	He's done.
	He's not going to be in the second round of debates and they're going to replace him with Gavin Newsom.
	Let's go.
	Let's go.
	Big money, big money.
	No whammy.
	Robert, so we're on for Sunday.
	Are you on anything tomorrow?
	No.
	I was on earlier with Alex Jones.
	But yeah, we'll have a Saturday movie night.
	Maybe we'll pick some political candidate debate one.
	I'll put it to the board, a board poll.
	There's the Will Ferrell one that's funny.
	There's some other ones that are funny.
	Have you watched Bullworth as a community?
	Yeah, Bullworth is decent.
	Bullworth and Manchurian Candidate.
	Those are two good options.
	Oh, and Trump mentioned tonight Manchurian Candidate.
	I bet that wasn't on anybody's bingo card.
	Trump would call Joe Biden a Manchurian Candidate.
	Oh, man.
	All right, well, so we're all on.
	I will be on someone's podcast tomorrow.
	I don't know if it's live.
	And then I've got to go for my mother's birthday.
	And Sunday night, we are going to be on and will be on fire.
	So I'm going to end it here, Robert.
	You and I will say our proper goodbyes.
	Everyone on Locals and Rumble who are watching, enjoy the night.
	Thank you for being here.
	It's wild.
	My prediction came true, people.
	I'm smarter than I thought I was.
	All right, ending it.
	See you all tomorrow.
	Peace out, peeps.
	Booyah.
	Hold on a second.

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