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May 23, 2024 - Viva & Barnes

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Journalist Steve Baker: Attacking James O'Keefe and Defending the FBI? Viva Frei Live

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	If the Democrats win, I will accept the result, but I'm not going to ignore fraud.
	Was there fraud in 2020?
	Of course there was fraud in 2020.
	No, there wasn't, and you still objected.
	If the Democrats win, I will accept the result, but I'm not going to ignore fraud.
	Can you believe this?
	Of course there was fraud.
	No, there wasn't.
	Shut up.
	If the Democrats win, I will accept the result, but I'm not going to ignore fraud.
	She's waiting.
	Look at her finger.
	Look at her finger.
	Of course there was fraud in 2020.
	No, there wasn't, and you still objected.
	No, there wasn't fraud in 2020.
	Can you imagine actually asserting such an idiotic statement at this point in time, given what we know?
	Let me bring this out.
	And in fairness to Caitlin Collins, even though she doesn't deserve it, I will play not the whole thing.
	This is one portion of the clip.
	I think this is the longer version.
	Because then they pull up.
	No, there wasn't.
	There wasn't.
	A widespread election fraud that would have interfered, that would have changed the outcome of the election.
	A load of crap also.
	I mean, it's the stupid talking point that they all say.
	There was determinate fraud if only because of the FBI suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story.
	That alone is determinate election fraud carried out by a deep state apparatus.
	That alone.
	Set aside the Georgia not doing signature verification.
	Set aside all of the anomalies.
	Set aside the rule changes.
	Set aside the ballot harvesting.
	Set aside, ooh, the indefinite confinement in Wisconsin.
	Set aside all of that.
	The Hunter Biden suppression alone was election outcome determinant fraud.
	Period.
	You were the first senator to object to the vote.
	And it's like an amazing thing.
	She's a robot.
	She's not a human being.
	She's a human propagandist.
	I was going to quote The Simpsons.
	She's not a human being.
	She's a human doing.
	And then what's next?
	A human going.
	She's not a human being anymore in the role that she's playing.
	She is an NPC.
	In 2024, will you certify the election results?
	Do you plan to object, or will you accept the results regardless of who wins the election?
	So, Caitlin, I gotta say, I think that's actually a ridiculous question.
	It's a yes or no question.
	Oh, no, it's a yes or no.
	Hey, here, let me ask you something.
	Will you undertake in advance to do something in respect of something that hasn't happened yet and then not change your opinion if new facts come in that change?
	The situation.
	You know what kind of question that is?
	It's a stupid question asked by a stupid journalist.
	And the only person who would answer yes, I will undertake in advance to do something and then not change my mind if new facts come in.
	The only person that would answer yes to that is an idiot.
	Let's not.
	Let me explain why it's a ridiculous question.
	It's not a question.
	You've ever asked a Democrat that?
	Of course.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	But what Democrats?
	Of course!
	And then she has to say, what Democrats?
	What Democrats?
	I know, I know.
	I've been down this road many times.
	Yeah, well then have a better answer next time.
	You cannot compare the two situations.
	We have talked about that.
	We've seen the audio of that when they protested on the Senate floor.
	But hold on a second.
	But have they ever, has you ever had a sitting president who refused to facilitate the peaceful transition of power?
	Refused to facilitate the peaceful transition.
	They're just straight up lying mongers.
	Lying?
	That's not even a word.
	His successor won the presidency?
	So, A, we did have a peaceful transfer of power.
	I was there on January 20th.
	I was there on the swearing.
	Barely.
	Barely!
	Barely!
	I can't play this entire thing.
	They are hacks.
	They are liars of the highest order.
	And then you get Bill Maher coming out and saying the exact same crap.
	Oh, it wasn't a peaceful transfer of power.
	No, because he didn't lick Joe Biden's boots on the way out and say the election was perfect.
	I'm not going to challenge anything.
	I will ratify you stealing that election through the intelligence, lying about your crackhead son.
	I will lick your boots and ratify your stolen election.
	Okay, I'll tell you one thing, though.
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	I had a dream the other night about Justin Trudeau confiscating my computer and then looking for memes to go after me for hate crimes under the new law.
	I swear to you, I actually had these dreams.
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	It's not going to be a fight, people.
	And I don't want anyone thinking there's going to be swearing or cussing or whatever.
	It's going to be a very civilized disagreement because I have taken issue, meaningful issue, with three points, three issues, three things with Steve Baker.
	I like Steve Baker in as much as I know him.
	I don't think he's a bad man.
	I think a great wrong was done to him.
	He seems like a genuine good person who's out there doing good.
	And it doesn't mean that we will not disagree because we disagree on three things that have gone sort of, You know, fights on Twitter.
	Those three things being Jake Lang.
	The second one was Kyle Serafin's attempted takedown of James O 'Keefe and Project Verita, or sorry, OMG.
	And the third, and that one flared up yesterday where he said, let's talk about this in person, which we will, is the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago and misunderstandings that happened on Twitter because Twitter is designed.
	Twitter is designed.
	For fighting.
	It's designed for misunderstanding.
	You put something down and it can be read as a threat or as a compliment depending on who reads it, how they read it, and how it's been done.
	Alright, so by the way, first thing I forgot to say.
	Viva Fry, you all know who I am.
	We might stay on YouTube the entire time.
	We'll see how this progresses.
	Rumble and vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	I should have made sure that we are in fact live on Rumble because they updated their server yesterday and...
	Okay, good.
	We're live on...
	Pause here.
	Who knows?
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me get past this ad here.
	Okay, so we're live on Rumble and vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Do I see my punum?
	I do.
	Hold on.
	Let me see the audio.
	There's audio issues.
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	Excited to see Trump speak?
	Rumor is RFK going too.
	Weekend will be interesting.
	The show will at Watchmen State.
	All right.
	Well, let's see.
	I got the guest in the back.
	Our guest, Steve Baker.
	It's going to be fantastic.
	Let me just make sure that everything is good here in Locals.
	Okay.
	Seems like it is.
	Is chat working?
	And then test.
	Everything good.
	Let's see here.
	All right, Steve.
	I'm bringing you in.
	Steve, this is his second appearance on the show right now.
	And the subject matter will be a little bit different, but it'll overlap a little bit because I need to know an update on what's going on with you now.
	Steve, for those who don't know who you are, tell the world 30,000 foot overview.
	Recap our last interview.
	Oh, our last interview?
	If I recap the last 24 hours, though, then I have to tell everybody that I'm a Fed, that I have cut a deal with Merrick Garland, which is why I've taken the position that I've taken in the last 48 hours on this Mar-a-Lago story.
	In fairness, they've been calling you a Fed since the Project Veritas debacle as well.
	Well, no.
	Anything that I disagree with, or anyone that I disagree with, If that person then calls me a Fed, that's the way Twitter works, as you know.
	And in fact, the other thing that gets me labeled a Fed is if somebody, you know, sends me a story, their story.
	They have the breaking story that's going to take down the government, that's going to take down the Biden administration, or it's going to blow January 6th, you know.
	Wide open.
	And then when I look at their story, and their story is not really a story, it's a hypothesis, or it's a theory that they have.
	And there's no foundation to it.
	There's no paperwork.
	There's no backing.
	There's no evidence.
	There's no witnesses to whatever their theory is.
	If I don't run with that story, then I'm a fit.
	I'm controlled opposition.
	So that's how this works, and you know that.
	Well, yeah, well, Steve, I'll tell you something.
	I'll mail you this in the mail.
	This is a Diagalon ring, and if you receive this and are in possession of it, you will also be a Fed up in Canada.
	That's a joke, and that was a gift from someone who sent this to me.
	I appreciate it.
	You're on the internet long enough.
	You reach enough people.
	You become a Nazi and the Zionist at the same time.
	You become controlled opposition.
	You become a Fed.
	Now, I'll say one thing.
	You're entitled to be wrong without being a Fed.
	And you're entitled to be a Fed without being wrong, but there might be some overlap of the two there.
	I'm joking, and I don't really think you're a Fed, although I think some behavior from others who have been in intelligence is much more questionable.
	You've never been in intelligence in your life, right, as far as I recall?
	That's correct.
	I mean, other than the fact that my father was a private investigator, you know, so there's that.
	I'm sure somebody will read something into that one.
	We won't go over the entire interview, but you were never a journalist by trade.
	What did you do again by work and you found yourself accidentally in journalism?
	I have been a lifelong musician.
	I've been a professional musician since I was a teenager.
	I've been a touring musician since I was 19. I found myself active in various other aspects of the music industry, everything from concert promotions.
	I've done over a thousand shows as a concert promoter, artist management, things of that nature.
	And then, of course, in the last 20 plus years of my life, I actually went back to performance and had three of my own bands and was making a living as a performing musician.
	And so, but over the last 30 years, I've also been a hobbyist, political, you know, shitposter, writer, you know, whatever.
	With the advent of, you know, the internet back when we, you know, used to be on Prodigy and CompuServe and then it was AOL and then AOL became MySpace and MySpace became Facebook and then that became a blog.
	And so I followed that progression and built, you know, a following of tens of thousands of people that...
	I apparently liked what I wrote and followed what I did.
	And then COVID came around and kicked my income out from underneath me.
	I wasn't allowed to perform for a year and a half.
	You know, sidelined by the government.
	And I like to say that the government weaponized me against them at that very moment.
	And so I turn what skills I had at that moment to begin the process of investigating what was going on behind the scenes with COVID, both in North Carolina, where I live.
	I'm not in North Carolina right now, by the way.
	I'm in a secret bunker in Louisiana somewhere and hiding from the feds.
	But the point being is that That really changed the trajectory because at that moment, and, you know, I was 60 years old at the time when COVID happened and when the lockdowns began.
	And so I...
	I basically made a decision at that time to make a career move, to make kind of a reinvention.
	And again, the way I like to explain it is I didn't quit playing music.
	I didn't give up on my lifelong love of being a trumpet player and a singer.
	I just moved that to the co-pilot's chair, and I took what I was doing in terms of my political writing and my investigative reporting, and I moved that to the captain's seat.
	And then 10 months later...
	January 6th happened.
	And so that brings us to where we are today.
	So now January 6th, you are facing charges.
	You haven't stood trial yet, correct?
	That's correct.
	Yeah, we're a long ways away from that.
	So what were you charged with?
	What's the status of your current being prosecuted?
	Yeah, I have the same basic four misdemeanors that most all of the low-level defendants have.
	They did everything in their power to try and...
	Hang a felony on me.
	Of course, I was nonviolent.
	I wasn't attacking anybody.
	I wasn't kicking in doors or windows or anything of that nature.
	And even though they took this to a grand jury, I mean, even a D.C. grand jury, they couldn't talk.
	They say you can indict a ham sandwich with a D.C. grand jury, but they weren't even able to do that there.
	So they hit me with the four basic misdemeanors.
	I had to self-present.
	Self-surrender, as it were, on March 1st in Dallas.
	That's where the, you know, the famous perp walk happened, and that was caught on camera.
	And then the process starts, you know, and I'm going through a couple of things that I'm not happy about right now.
	Last week, last Tuesday, we had a published minute order from Judge Christopher Cooper, my judge, or my case.
	We're denying our motion for me to have my firearm, you know, gun rights restored.
	And then also, even though they don't have any travel restrictions on me, like almost all 100% of the other January 6th defendants have, I do not have any travel restrictions.
	So the only thing I have to do is I have to notify my...
	Pre-trial services officer anytime I travel and where I go.
	That sounds like kind of a restriction.
	So you have to notify them for what purpose if there's no restriction so they know where you are?
	Exactly.
	In fact, the first time I notified them that I was going to D.C., the PSO in D.C. I contacted my North Carolina PSO and said, oh, you have to get where he's going, who he's meeting with.
	We need to know where he's staying, and we need to have an emergency contact person.
	And I called my attorney up and I said, I don't have to do that, do you?
	And he goes, no.
	He said, hell no.
	He goes, that's not in the language at all.
	He said, you just call him back and tell him no.
	So I did.
	So I called him back and said, no, I don't have to do that.
	And they responded and said, yep, you're right.
	You don't have to.
	But they were pushing it to see if that was something I would do.
	And so what we are arguing and what we argued in our motion was the fact that when I go to D.C., first of all, I'm meeting with sources.
	I'm meeting with congressmen.
	I'm meeting with...
	Congressional staff.
	I'm meeting with congressional investigators on the investigative stories that I'm working on for The Blaze.
	We feel like that it is, in fact, an infringement, as do the congressmen that I'm meeting with, that I should be notifying the Department of Justice, which is part of the executive branch, when I'm meeting with the legislative branch.
	They see that as a separation of powers issue.
	And so that's the point.
	And then, look, it's a privacy issue as well.
	It's none of their frickin' business.
	I do wonder if it's not an entrapment, but trying to get...
	I don't know if you have to make the statement under oath, whereas if you lie to them or you go somewhere else and then they say you lied to us and went somewhere else and now we can go after you for another reason.
	But hold on.
	You're facing four misdemeanor charges, parading and picketing in a restricted area, whatever.
	You lost your firearm rights?
	Yes, yes.
	And that's also common.
	And this is the justification that they give for that.
	They say that you are...
	A potential threat, even though they haven't deemed you a threat to society because your PSO has to make random and unannounced visits to your home.
	PSO is personal?
	Pre-trial services officer.
	Pre-trial services officer.
	So you are, in fact, you're on bail and you have conditions.
	It's technically bail, although I didn't have to pay bail.
	Right.
	So there are conditions.
	But here's the thing, and I'm sure you're aware of this, is that there's only two reasons for pretrial restrictions.
	That is that your potential flight risk or security risk.
	Government has not even made that argument.
	In fact, they did not even put in my restrictions that I can't travel internationally.
	I am actually allowed to travel internationally.
	No other January 6th defendant is, which, of course, other people will say that.
	You're fed.
	You're fed.
	But there's a reason why the Department of Justice did not even lead with that.
	We expected travel restrictions like everybody else has, which means you have to get permission just to leave your home district.
	So I live in the home district of Central North Carolina, the federal district.
	And so anytime I would go to the eastern part of the state or the western part of the state, if I was a regular...
	If I had the normal restrictions on me, I'd have to notify my PSO.
	I'd actually not notify.
	I'd have to get permission to do so.
	I'd have to get permission to even travel to the beach in North Carolina, even though I live in Raleigh.
	But I don't have that restriction on me.
	We expected that.
	My attorneys actually were licking their chops.
	They wanted that fight because especially they wanted the fight that I would not be allowed to go to D.C. like all other January 6th defendants are.
	Prevented from doing, except to attend their trial or hearings.
	They can't go to D.C. So they didn't even put that on me because I don't think that they wanted that PR fight, you know, especially because I worked with the Blaze and, you know, the other friendly media sources would have screamed bloody murder about that.
	And then they would have accused the government of restricting me from doing the work, which is exposing government.
	Malfisa.
	So that's what I do.
	I'm looking up Stephen Horn, who is the other journalist, because I'll say, in as much as there's a caveat to all of this, you and Stephen Horn, I think, were the only two journalists charged with any crimes.
	Is there another journalist that was charged?
	There's a couple more.
	Most notably, another one is by the name of J.D. Rivera out of Pensacola.
	I think he is one of the most compelling examples of what's wrong with all of these.
	January 6th persecutions in that JD was actually contracted.
	He's a contractor, professional videographer, and photojournalist.
	And he was contracted by a mainstream television station, news program, out of Mobile, Alabama, right across the bay there from Pensacola, to be there and to film the events of January 6th.
	Well...
	He did what any journalist would do.
	He followed the story where the story went, and the story went inside the building.
	And he's got his big old bulky gear.
	He wasn't doing this with his cell phone camera and then pretending that he was a journalist.
	He showed up with his high-end, professional, big, bulky gear.
	He did no violence.
	He did no chanting.
	He did no parading.
	He didn't wear any political gear or a MAGA hat or anything like that.
	He said absolutely nothing wrong.
	He did absolutely nothing wrong.
	He comported himself professionally.
	He was the first person arrested in the panhandle of Florida.
	He was swatted by over 20 agents.
	He decided to go to trial and on his four...
	No, understand.
	He was swatted for four misdemeanors by 20 agents.
	Red dots on himself, his family, his children, his wife.
	6.30 in the morning.
	What's his name?
	How do I have not heard about this?
	Jesus Rivera.
	J.D. Rivera.
	Jesus Rivera.
	Yeah, his trial, his case and everything was one of the early ones.
	And when he did go to trial, he opted for a bench trial, knowing that you can't win in front of a jury in D.C. He was found guilty on all four counts.
	And then J.D. was sentenced to eight months in a medium security prison facility in Georgia.
	And then J.D. was...
	Put into solitary confinement for the first two months.
	And then you'll love this.
	So when he's finally released into the general population for the remainder of his term, that's when he learned that he was the only misdemeanor defendant held in that prison.
	All the other prisoners felt that he was probably, you know, an informant or, you know, a narc or something because they are like, no.
	Misdemeanor people don't come to this prison.
	We're professional criminals.
	We commit real crimes and we go to real prisons and misdemeanor defendants are not put in this prison.
	He's like, you are if you're a January 6th defendant.
	Jeez Louise.
	I've never heard of that man or his story and now I'm going to reach out to him and try to get him on.
	Because I was going to say, Stephen Horn, I don't think, had travel restrictions.
	I think he was allowed to conceal carry for his own security.
	But apparently there is not a double standard or a lesser standard for journalists, given that story, which I hadn't heard about.
	Okay, interesting.
	So suffice to say, Steve, I don't think you're a Fed.
	But I do question myself in terms of what the hell you're doing on the internet, in terms of some of the positions you're taking.
	Let's start with the one that I found the stupidest possible fight.
	And I do question what the hell is going on.
	What is the unsuspendables?
	Or the suspendables, I'm sorry.
	Suspendables.
	I noticed a pattern of behavior coming from four people who identified themselves as suspendables.
	You, Kyle Serafin, and I forget the names of the other two, but all four of you were taking really, really, in my humble view, ridiculous, and I dare even say stupid positions, specifically on...
	James O 'Keefe, OMG, and that drunk lady in the bar.
	Before we even get into that, and for those of you who don't know, I'll read the tweet, Kyle Serafin's tweet, which sort of led to our first major public Twitter disagreement.
	What is the suspendables?
	Are you still coalesced?
	And are you drinking Diet Monster?
	I am, because I've had some dental work done this week, and I was told I cannot drink coffee.
	Or smoke cigars for two weeks.
	So I'm trying to get my caffeine from this.
	I was going to say, order something like, this is not an ad and they're not a sponsor, but I would buy into the company.
	True North, it's carbonated seltzer water.
	And it doesn't, the sucralose, I'm realizing how terrible sucralose artificial sweeteners are, even the stevia.
	So I have to give up on Celsius because I don't like sucralose and I think it upsets my stomach, but sensitive hypochondriac.
	What are the suspendables?
	You know, the Suspendables was started by these FBI whistleblowers, and there are others that are not as prominent and as well-known as the three that you're mentioning.
	Obviously, Kyle Serafin, the other one is Steve Friend, and then Garrett O 'Boyle.
	Those have been the most vocal and...
	You know, upfront about what they're going through as whistleblowers and what they've been put through by the government, that sort of thing.
	And so it was just a play on the word, the suspendables.
	I thought that it went back to, all the way back to the old FBI show, The Untouchables.
	I thought it was a play on that.
	But I think it's a more...
	I'm trying to remember what the more current...
	It shows you how good of a suspendable I am.
	Well, I think the idea was that they were FBI agents who refused to comply or whistle blew, and then they got suspended, so they're called the suspendables.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the names don't...
	I'm not trying to put anyone on blast.
	I just noticed that the bizarre behavior that I noticed came from three of them.
	I don't know the other two names and yourself.
	And it's like, well, what the hell's going on here?
	Okay, let me bring up that we're doing three things.
	Your position on Jake Lang, which I disagree with, your public position.
	The issue that happened with Project, not Project Veritas, OMG and James O 'Keefe, which I think was a takedown.
	I think it was an attempt at a takedown, and I think that Kyle Serafin's tweet was wrong, misleading, and I have my questions as to why, but let me bring it up here.
	Kyle Serafin.
	Okay, this was the alleged, you know, whatever, I'll read the tweet.
	Kyle Serafin.
	This is footage shot by James O 'Keefe.
	He shared with his team at O 'Keefe Media.
	This is what many of you apologized for this week.
	I didn't see anybody apologizing for this.
	This was, from my understanding of the context, a video that James recorded when he was at a bar and had an encounter, decided not to use it, had shared it with the team internally, and Kyle Serafin is suggesting that the team was apologizing.
	Someone leaked it to him, and I don't know how it was leaked to him.
	Okay.
	Any of you have daughters in college?
	Tugging at the emotional victim, you know, appealing to that.
	This young woman is half James' age, suggesting in my mind that something bad happened here, that James was exploiting her.
	It has to be sexual in my mind because otherwise you don't say things like that.
	She needed an ambulance, knew exactly what night I called about, and had retained counsel.
	When you let your ethics and morals slip, you'll do this for a story.
	I saw that tweet.
	I'm going to take it out of the screen now.
	I saw that tweet, and I said, holy hell, what did James do?
	Did he sleep with an underage girl to try to get a story?
	Did he ply an underage girl?
	Did he abuse somebody?
	She needed an ambulance.
	It's a 15-minute video of James at a bar with another guy that I think they're not affiliated, although maybe they know each other, and some really drunk French chick who says that she works for Chuck Schumer.
	I watched the 15-minute video, and I put out a tweet, and luckily it ratioed the living bejesus out of Kyle.
	What the hell are you doing?
	You suggested in that tweet, for anybody who doesn't read the video, is going to leave a very, very and wrongful negative suggestion as to what James did.
	It was James recording, the girl was drunk, that she was making some sex jokes with the other guy, but he's got a big penis, and yada yada.
	Two people acting like idiots, but that's what happens at bars.
	And then I put up my tweet.
	I said, this is terrible what you're doing.
	I've watched the entire video.
	Nothing wrong happened in this video.
	By the way, you leaked it or you published it, Kyle, which is more damaging than anything James did.
	And then you take the position, Stephen.
	It's crazy to me that it was a question of chivalry.
	That it was, you know, he should have called the ambulance and he should have told the girl to stop drinking and he shouldn't have offered to get her another drink, although we never see him get her a drink.
	And so, Steve, like...
	Do you not see anything wrong with what Kyle Serafin did?
	I don't want to cause fights among the suspendables, but you understand what is really, really misleading about Kyle's tweets?
	First of all, I'm not going to speak for Kyle.
	I'll speak for myself, in my opinion.
	I had the opportunity to review that before Kyle ever put it out.
	I saw it a couple days before.
	Myself, Blaze editors, we decided not to even do a story on it.
	And then, if I recall correctly, I never even shared the video on my feed.
	I did comment once the kerfuffle began and everyone was fully engaged in that.
	And I wasn't trying to either support or condemn.
	I was just saying, this is my feeling.
	This was my take on my view of that video.
	Is that, and I'll preface this by saying, there was a time in my life that in that same situation, the first thing I would have done is taken full advantage after I checked her ID, and I would have been the one taking full advantage of the drunk woman.
	All right?
	Full disclosure, there was a time in my life.
	I like to think that I have become a better man.
	Since that time in my life.
	Let me stop you there, Steve.
	I'm going to pull up one just because it's funny.
	If I were here talking to the CIA spook, I'll tell you one thing, and I can say this unequivocally.
	There was never a time in my life where I would have done that because the fear of disease always trumped the perceived pleasure of the sex.
	Never.
	Especially when you look at a video like that, it's like, I don't think this is the first time these people have acted like this in their lives.
	But okay, sorry.
	So set that aside.
	Understood.
	Yeah, no, but as I said, in full disclosure, there was a time in my life, and, you know, it is what it is.
	And so, with that said, the other thing that would not have happened in that circumstance with me at any time in my life would have been, A, a camera running, B, especially being a public figure.
	Would there have been a camera running that I would have been aware of or certainly operating myself?
	And then ultimately what the point that I was trying to make was is that O 'Keefe, who I've been a big fan of, I have posted and re-quoted and reposted so many of his stories over the years.
	I've been a big fan of some of his work.
	I have not been a big fan of much of his latter work once he kind of got into what some people are calling grinder journalism, where they're going out and seducing gay people in a bar and getting them to brag and talk about their position and what they know and whatever federal organization they work for.
	That's not, in my mind, solid journalism because, again, Over a few drinks, a guy trying to get laid, he's going to say a lot of stuff.
	And then you're going to get low-level contractors for the CIA bragging what they know about, whether they know about it or not.
	And then as a result of that, where have those stories gone?
	What have they done?
	What have they created?
	Has there been any investigations following up on those stories?
	Of course not, because it's not good journalism.
	That's a personal criticism that doesn't take away from his past good work, which I think he has done.
	The other thing specifically related to the video that Kyle published is that I would have expected a guy who was, you know, the face of Project Veritas, truth, virtue, you know, that he would have, knowing that a camera was running.
	Well, it was his camera.
	Yes, exactly.
	Would have engaged in something a little bit more virtuous than what he did.
	And that's why I say, and that's why I put the caveat to say, you know, we've all sinned and come short of the glory of God, all right?
	I have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
	I'm hopeful, I'm thankful that none of it got, you know, captured on camera like that, but I know...
	That in my own personal journey, my life's evolution, spirituality, is the one thing that I hope is given in the same, put in the same position.
	Or that if my daughter was in her position, that a man, a real man, a virtuous man, would have taken control of that and said, enough of this.
	This woman's clearly not functioning properly because of the overindulgence.
	Because she was clearly...
	Overindulged.
	Well, look, I have a different...
	I have not a different take on whether or not she was overindulged.
	She was a drunk chick and that dude...
	I mean, it's embarrassing to watch the two of them do that, but that's what people do at bars.
	I mean, that's what...
	Especially at a certain age, which it will leave lifelong scars, emotional and spiritual and other.
	But...
	But that's...
	Okay, first of all, to the criticism of James, or of his work and what they call...
	I mean, I'd never heard of the term grinder journalism, but...
	I did notice some trends as to which loose lips are sinking ships.
	I don't fault no investigations happening because they're not going to happen.
	It's the corrupt swamp investigating itself.
	My observation is not that his journalism, the undercover stuff with I'm not going to get the guy's name, but the one having dinner with the woman recently.
	Well, the last one.
	Oh, by the way, all of this attack on James came a week before his video about the CIA was about to drop.
	It would cause people to have more questions.
	That video just confirmed what we already knew.
	It's like, we already know this stuff.
	It's just video confirmation of the same, and yet nothing's happening.
	So I don't fault James for that.
	But James recorded that himself and decided not to publish.
	I think he had damn good reasons not to.
	The woman would be easily identifiable.
	It would be very embarrassing for her.
	And it didn't reveal anything.
	And I'm convinced, given the way people treated James and what Kyle Serafin did, Maybe so, but he obviously released it to somebody because it got out of his phone and ended up, you know, by some path or mechanism into, you know, Cal Seraphine's archives.
	It got released by somebody someplace somewhere.
	Yeah, some might say feds trying to take down James O 'Keefe, leaking it to Kyle Serafin.
	So Kyle Serafin, and I don't, les absents ont toujours tort, as we say in French.
	Those who are not there are always wrong.
	But, you know, he describes himself as, hold on, let me just get to it, recovering.
	I think it was a recovering FBI agent.
	Now, I've never been in intelligence.
	I just know the memes that there is no former intelligence.
	Once intelligence, always intelligence.
	And so I view even Jack Posobiec with a little bit, I'm joking.
	There is that meme, or there is that idea.
	And the idea that this, what I believe is a thorough, immoral, and dishonest description of the video, a week before James is going to release that other video, I forget what the guy's name was, that was going to expose this CIA contractor admitting that they're withholding information from Trump.
	I mean, you cannot connect those dots, but you can't pretend that they don't exist.
	And I found your position very, very bizarre.
	I appreciate the chivalry argument.
	The flip side is, you're at a bar with a D.C. chick who's getting drunk and living a debaucherous life, and the expectation is that James is going to be like the male Karen and say, no, young lady, you've had too much to drink, and this bar shouldn't have been serving you, and now I'm going to call the manager on all of you.
	It was irrational and, I would say, unreasonable critique of James.
	As far as you're concerned, that's my perspective.
	Well, I mean, we're going to disagree on that.
	As I said, I have been on stage 45 years of my life.
	I have seen everything at a bar, you know?
	I have played thousands of nightclub gigs in my lifetime.
	And I have seen everything.
	And we all know when somebody is beyond their point of being able to be rational and make safe.
	In my opinion, this young woman was far beyond that.
	Now, what we have learned since then is that, and this is not O 'Keefe's fault, we have since learned that on that evening she was 19 years old.
	She was not even 20 yet.
	We have learned that she, in fact, was taken away in an ambulance for alcohol poisoning that night.
	And so we know that.
	And then in addition to that, as I said, I would have hoped, if it had been my daughter, as I said, that somebody would have intervened before something really bad.
	I have questions because I asked the question multiple times and I don't expect an answer, but I certainly didn't get one.
	Anyone file a complaint against the bar?
	And what medical evidence, other than the mere suggestion that she was taken away in an ambulance?
	I mean, also that she called an attorney.
	I mean, who's got any evidence of this to substantiate those accusations?
	Yeah.
	This is the work of investigators that have done this and have been talking to her and her father and her attorney and have learned these things.
	But it's not something that I'm involved in, and I'm just repeating what I've been told right now, so I don't have the evidence in my hands either.
	All right.
	With respect to the suspendables, I mean, other than carrying the moniker or is there any sort of informal or formal organization, affiliation, or adherence of rules?
	No, in fact, I was made an honorary suspendable because of what I'm going through and the persecution that I've been facing from the FBI for over three years.
	So they made me an honorary suspendable.
	And I have the lapel badge, but that's about the only, you know, we don't have a secret handshake yet, and we're not meeting at Bohemian Grove yet, so we don't have any of those things going for us.
	I'll answer a couple of questions.
	No, James O 'Keefe was not the bartender.
	Someone else said, so James did nothing.
	First of all, she was piss drunk, if she was that piss drunk, before she even met James.
	Now, I'll have a question because I don't know if you know this and maybe I'll squeak out some private details or undisclosed details.
	Does she actually work for Chuck Schumer?
	I don't know.
	The other question I had was...
	Okay, I won't ask that.
	What we're going to do, by the way, we're not going to change anything on our end, Steve.
	We're going to go over to Rumble now.
	So here's the link to Rumble.
	And let me just actually see something, if there's any Rumble rants or questions in here.
	Okay, there's none.
	And in Viva Warren's Law, we got one tip that says, did you get AK Kamara for an interview yet?
	Screen grab.
	Okay.
	We're going to end it on YouTube and we're going to carry on the next two issues that I have.
	Anything else about that?
	So that's all that happened.
	Why did she call Kyle Serafin?
	Or why did Kyle call her?
	What is going...
	I don't know if you know, and maybe I would ask Kyle if he would come on.
	What the hell is...
	How did he get involved in this?
	And why is he reaching out to her, seemingly, to take down James O 'Keefe?
	Yeah.
	No, I...
	My personal...
	I can't tell you that I know.
	As I said, I'm not going to speak for Kyle.
	I don't know how...
	Why?
	Where the connection came in.
	Don't know how he got the video.
	Don't know why he's spoken to them.
	I don't know why, what his interest was in that situation, except that I will tell you this, and this is me from, you know, 30,000-foot view looking at the other three guys that we're talking about here, Kyle, Steve, and Garrett.
	They're very devout in their faith, and I think that they just saw probably what I saw as well, that I...
	A disappointment in a quote-unquote perceived to be conservative or right-leaning media figure, leader, influencer, not intervening in a situation where that was a perfect example for him to, you know, to come off as a knight in shining armor.
	He didn't.
	He opted to just video 15 minutes of sleaze.
	No, I'm telling you, had he not videoed that 15 minutes of sleaze, I think she would have accused him of something.
	Or he would have been accused of something and there would have been no video evidence to prove that he did absolutely nothing.
	The other guy is this, you know, it's not my scene.
	It's never been my scene.
	All right, we're ending on YouTube.
	The other two issues, Jake Lang and the FBI.
	This is the one you're going to, everyone's going to come over anyhow, but yes, the FBI.
	And I know you've been misstated as saying it's totally normal.
	You're saying it's not.
	We'll get there.
	Okay, ending on YouTube.
	Come on over to Rumble or vivabarneslaw.locals.com now.
	All right.
	Part two.
	Jake Lang.
	I'm picking your public posts on this because this is where I also...
	Look, I had no idea that when I was interviewing Jake, it was going to be controversial because I thought there was relative unification behind all of the victims of the January 6th persecution.
	And I do consider that even the ones who engaged in violence to the extent that they were not treated similarly to other people under similar circumstances.
	Leading one I can think of is five illegal immigrants beat up a cop in New York City and they're out back on the streets the same day.
	The dude flipping the middle bird, it has now been confirmed, was not one of the five originally identified as having beat up the cops, so don't repeat that disinformation or incorrect information.
	But the evidence to which there's a double standard two-tier system is that Jake Lang, in as much as he engaged in violence against the police, is being treated wholly unfairly and disproportionately All of you, Jake Lang has not had a trial.
	All of you, Jake Lang has not had a trial by his choice.
	He asked for his trial to be delayed pending the outcome in Fisher.
	His case is before Judge Nichols and the 1512 count against him was dismissed.
	The government appealed the dismissal, which paused the case.
	The case has remained paused with Lange's agreement, while the 15-12, that's the obstruction, one that's under challenge with the Fisher case, I think?
	Yeah.
	Why is Lange okay with this?
	Because he knows he's getting convicted on multiple other counts.
	The video evidence against him is overwhelming.
	So he is simply staving his sentence now, serving a sentence now.
	But he uses the fact that he has been in custody as a basis for his martyrdom and fundraising tool.
	We've got a bunch of problems with shipwrecked on this.
	He wouldn't be able to raise nearly as much money if he was out on bail.
	I'm unclear about that.
	It's all a multifaceted money-making exercise.
	When people accuse someone who's been locked in solitary of doing it for money, I see you're an effing idiot who should not be...
	I'm not talking about you.
	I'm talking about shipwrecked right now.
	An effing idiot who should not be taken seriously ever, ever more going forward.
	The idea that there's any amount of money that you can get paid to be tortured in solitary indefinitely, it's mind-blowingly stupid, something only someone can say from the comfort of their living room, from the protection of their keyboard.
	But you said, and you sort of ratified some of it, as I've been telling all who ask, Jake Lang hasn't had a trial yet because of his own machinations, not because of even more corrupt Justice Department doings.
	Okay, let me bring this one back out so I can get back to you here.
	My issue with this...
	Well, I guess two questions.
	I'm not sure.
	Are you familiar as to whether or not any potentially exculpatory evidence was withheld from Jake at any point in time during his prosecution?
	Well, he hasn't been to trial yet.
	So, in terms of what...
	Exculpatory or possible exculpatory video there might be.
	I'm not familiar with that.
	He certainly had over three years to develop his, you know, war chest of exculpatory videos and evidence if it exists.
	But I've interviewed Jake.
	You know, I did a couple hours with Jake myself.
	And I can tell you that he, by his own...
	Personal testimony says openly that he believes that he was called of God to be in that moment, to be in that place, and that God himself delivered unto him that gas mask, the shield, and the baseball bat.
	This is his testimony.
	And I noticed someone in the comments in the chat when I interviewed him said, because he did describe it, the bat, did they say manifested?
	Or appeared.
	It's one of the two terms.
	Materialized.
	Materialized.
	Thank you.
	That's it.
	But here's the thing.
	As far as I'm concerned, even if what you say is true, and let's just say he engaged in violence, there's no question he admits it.
	He says he was defending against police brutality.
	Okay, that'll be his defense.
	Good luck with that.
	That'll work.
	But the question remains, why in the hell would he not...
	He's in jail of his own choice.
	Because he knows he'll get time and a half or whatever it is for what he serves before conviction.
	Why wouldn't he be released?
	Why wouldn't he be released?
	He was denied bail.
	He was denied bail.
	Release, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So the question is this.
	You would concede that even if he's guilty of what he's being accused of, he should have been granted bail.
	He should have had a speedy trial in a fair jurisdiction where the punishment should fit the crime.
	And I think you'd concede that he hasn't been.
	The question then becomes from a...
	Perception point of view, what do you think people are going to think when instead of saying, yes, it's an injustice, he did something bad and he should serve the appropriate commensurate crime, people are calling him a fraud, people are calling him a fed, people are calling him an informant.
	And some of the suggestions that you make seem to lend to that idea.
	I mean, first of all, go back and read.
	That last sentence I wrote in my tweet again and see exactly what I said.
	Let's analyze the actual words I used.
	Yes, not because of an even more corrupt Justice Department.
	Because where you and I agree, and I agree completely with this, is that all January 6th defendants have been over-prosecuted, over-sentenced, over-charged.
	They have been unfairly swatted.
	In the 100-year history of the FBI, they never once swatted a misdemeanor defendant until January 6th.
	They're not only swatting misdemeanor defendants, they're swatting non-violent misdemeanor defendants.
	You cannot tell me, based on just that one small little example, that this is not political persecution.
	Because that's exactly what it is.
	And Julie Kelly had a great story out, I think it was on Monday, about the pro-Hamas protester back in November who punched a Capitol Police officer, I think it was a female officer if I remember her story correctly, threw her against the wall, punched her in the face, and this defendant has now been given 45 hours of community service.
	It's a fucking joke.
	But by contrast, J.D. Rivera, who we talked about earlier, did no violence.
	He wielded a camera, a professional camera.
	It was contracted by a television station in Mobile, Alabama, and he got eight months in prison.
	This isn't two-tiered.
	This is selective.
	Prosecution, selective persecution to the nth degree.
	And it doesn't matter whether we're talking about Stuart Rhodes or Enrique Tarrio or we're talking about JD or we're talking about Jake Lyon or we're talking about me.
	It's far...
	Far, far over the top what they're doing because they are creating and establishing a narrative here.
	And also precedent.
	By the way, this is what I've been arguing to some of the congressional leaders that I'm meeting with, is that the danger of what's happening in these D.C. courts right now, courtrooms, is the precedence that is being set in D.C. court, district court, to where...
	Every single one of these sentences are enhanced by the words you used when you were committing your act, your act of trespassing, your act of picketing and parading, or your act of violence.
	If you said scary words or you said unacceptable things, like I did, I called Nancy Pelosi a bitch.
	I called her a bitch in my hotel room in Virginia afterwards, and that...
	Is in my charging documents, Viva.
	She is a bitch.
	Sorry, I don't want to get you in trouble.
	But that much I understand.
	That's why I'm not sympathetic.
	I'm very, very suspicious when people call you a Fed and it's the idea that, yeah, sure, you're saying, okay, the DOJ and the whole system is corrupt and they're even more corrupt than Jake.
	But Jake is getting a little bit of what he deserves, and he's not who he says he is.
	It's basically how it reads, and you can understand how people are going to interpret that, or I'm sure you think misinterpret that, and forget the shipwreck crew.
	The idea that he chose to be in there, he's claiming to be a martyr, and he's getting what he deserves, is effectively what this looks like.
	And when I look at it, I don't know if shipwreck crew, I don't know them from a whole, I just know that Barnes mentions them every now and again.
	I think they're conservative.
	This looks like...
	Between you, Kyle, the other two, shipwrecked, this looks like a little bit of Operation COINTELPRO 2.0, where you're getting conservatives to do stupid things, to cause fissures among unity, and by basically turning the victims into the victimizers.
	All right, so there are three characterizations by which I categorize all January 6th.
	This is what I saw that day.
	I've been saying this phrase for three years.
	I've seen that on the day, because I was there obviously, I saw bad people doing bad things.
	I saw good people doing good things.
	This is on both sides of the police line, by the way.
	And I saw otherwise good people doing stupid things.
	Caught up in the moment.
	That's also on both sides of the police line.
	Let me give you an example.
	I'm not going to mention this cop's name because his life has been destroyed.
	Post-January 6th.
	He's under threats.
	I can't say any more about him or I'll give away who he is.
	But this guy is a conservative Trump supporter.
	He was on one of those two.
	I'm not even going to name which law enforcement agency he was with, but he was with either Capitol Police or Metro PD.
	And because of the actions that he engaged in that day, Whether authorized, whether legal, whether illegal, whether outside of their training, whatever the case may be, the characterization by right-wing media influencers on this cop has destroyed his life.
	And I had the opportunity to interview him a few weeks ago, and we met in a very secret place because he could not be seen with me, because he's still on the department that he serves with.
	And he wept.
	He said, my life is being destroyed by my people.
	They don't understand.
	And he said, none of these people who wrote articles about me even bothered to phone me and ask me a question.
	They don't know me.
	They don't know why I did what I did.
	They don't know what orders I was following, but they've destroyed my life.
	Now, with that said, there are a lot of people out there.
	Who have a lot of opinions about a lot of these characters, good, bad, and that middle ground, otherwise good and did stupid things, that they haven't done the work of going out and doing what I do.
	This is why I spend half my time in D.C. It's because I'm doing the work there to learn what's really going on.
	And part of that, Viva, is the fact that I've also interviewed many of these defendants who have spent time with...
	Jake Langs and the other Jake Langs in various prisons or jails.
	And they have stories to tell.
	And what I would invite you to do, and I'm happy to give you the numbers, the phone numbers of a couple of the very key characters that you ought to talk to.
	And if you want to know what these people are willing to tell you about Jake's character from having been with him, lived with him, not just for...
	Days or weeks, for many of them months on end, and sometimes repeatedly because they move these guys around.
	You know, it's one of the tortures that they do to these guys, and they've done it to Jake, is what they call diesel therapy.
	Have you ever heard of that?
	No.
	You can look it up.
	I think there's even a page on it on Wikipedia.
	But it's an actual cruel punishment where they wake up the guys at 3 o 'clock in the morning and then yank them and put them on a bus or train or whatever and transfer them to another facility halfway across the country.
	And then they do it over and over and over and over again.
	Jake has probably been transferred 16 or 18 times at this point.
	I am not saying for a second that they have not.
	But if you talk to the other people who he has done time with, they will tell you that 90% of what Jake has been put through has been self-inflicted because he is a major hothead.
	He starts fights.
	He engages in...
	Heated and angry episodes with guards that escalate and then end up getting all of the guys locked down for Jake's behavior and they had nothing to do with it because they will do that.
	They'll punish your entire pod, for instance, if one guy gets out of line.
	Part of keeping prisoners in line is the whole idea, if one guy does it, I'm going to punish everybody.
	So they try to get everybody to look after each other in that manner.
	Keep things calm.
	And Jake will lose it.
	He'll get them all put into lockdown as a result of his behavior.
	And again, I'm going to give you a story that is unique to me and Jake.
	Before I ever granted or agreed to interview Jake myself, he called me on a FaceTime live.
	I got a video call from Jake.
	Well, these prisoners can't do video calls.
	So not on their prison phone.
	And so he's laying in his bunk and he's showing me his face and talking.
	And then he walks over and he shows me a video out of his little window and what he can see from his prison cell there in Brooklyn.
	And I go, how'd you get that phone?
	He goes, don't ask.
	And I said, no, seriously.
	And by the way, he said, when we do the interview, he goes, please don't mention that I've got this cell phone.
	But when you do an interview with Jake, and he does podcasts, and he calls into these spaces on Twitter, he's doing this on a cell phone that he's paying by the testimony.
	The stories of the guys he spent time with, anywhere from $2,000 to $2,500 a month from a prison guard is what he's paying them to have access to these phones.
	So that's why when you get a call from Jake, you don't get the announcement prison call.
	You were receiving a call from such and such federal facility.
	Will you accept this call?
	And then you say yes, and then the call comes on, and then you get a warning at 14 minutes.
	You have one minute left, and then at 15 minutes, it's over with.
	It cuts off.
	That doesn't happen when you talk to Jake.
	And that's why.
	That's why it didn't happen with you.
	Not to be rude, as you say, and I'm thinking, okay, who cares?
	He has the means.
	When I interviewed him, he said he comes from a decent family with means.
	Not a decent family, but a family with decent means.
	And so he's paying $2,000 a month for a sale so that he can do podcasts.
	So what?
	I mean, what the hell does that prove?
	Well, it's illegal.
	For one, he's getting by with it.
	A lot of people think, you know, more power to him.
	That's fine.
	I've only ever pointed it out as a statement of fact, not as a, you know...
	No, but you're making me like him more now because the dude is risking his own personal well-being so that he can bring awareness and raise money.
	When you're talking about raising money, I mean, he's not pocketing this money himself unless he is, but I don't think he is because I think it's been pretty transparent.
	He's raising money for...
	What's it called?
	Commissary for other prisoners?
	Yeah, no, he's given away...
	I mean, first of all, he's raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	He has given away, you know...
	thousands upon thousands to other prisoners for commissary.
	He's paid legal fees.
	By and large, and again, if you talk to the guys who have served with him, many of those guys have refused to take those payments because they know his character.
	And again, I'll give you their phone numbers and you can talk to them directly.
	You can pre-interview them and then you can get them on the air if they're willing to come on and talk directly about Jake Lang.
	But the bottom line is that the guys who are accepting money from him, they speak highly of Jake Lang.
	The guys who have not accepted money from him, they don't.
	And they claim that they don't accept money from him, that they've turned down money, or they stopped taking money from him, specifically because of his character and because of the nature of the way he's operating.
	And they believe, and again, I'm telling you what I hear back from the guys who have served with him.
	Yeah, it's getting, I mean, not to be judgmental, that's smelling a little too gossipy for me.
	I have no doubt you can find people who hate people.
	And when you're stuck in jail, you know, geez, I can't imagine any more hell of other people other than solitary confinement.
	I'm not sure what's worse, though, solitary or being stuck with someone who you don't like.
	But look, I'm not swayed by that explanation.
	And I do think the shipwreck crew and people attacking Jake...
	I mean, first of all, oh, he misbehaves.
	Shit, the guy's been psychologically tortured for three years.
	I'm surprised that he's not more broken than he is.
	He seems to, you know, his faith in God seems to be carrying him through it.
	But I'm surprised he's not more broken than he is.
	And although I say, just to end, we can end this because I don't want it to get too, like, catfighting and gossipy, but...
	If that's the worst of it, I just see going after someone like Jake, or I even would dare say going after any of the January Sixers, even the ones who admit to violence and just say, treat me equally under the law, it looks, I won't say Feddy, but it definitely looks co-intel pro-y, where we're like, what, instead of being unified, now we're going to say, well, I was only there with my camera, so I'm really the victim.
	Jake was there with a baseball bat, so he's kind of getting what he deserves, and don't lump me together.
	That looks like the divide and conquer that I'm sure a Fed Now, I began this part of our conversation by clearly delineating myself from that.
	I believe as well that Jake has been over-prosecuted.
	I mean, any of these guys for their offenses, we can show a thousand other examples in the federal court system where these types of defendants were given the opportunity for bail and for pretrial release, and these guys have been denied that.
	But back to Shipps.
	The main contention to begin with is that he is only still sitting where he's sitting right now in pretrial detention by his choice.
	This is Lange's legal maneuvering.
	That's his choice.
	Well, first of all, I fundamentally disagree with that because the idea is, now that I'm fairly certain, I run the risk of being wrong, but I don't think I am, I'm fairly certain a substantial amount of exculpatory evidence was withheld from Jake for a material period of time.
	And the idea is saying, he could have gone to trial already.
	Yeah, that's what the Crown, sorry, the Canadian side, that's what the prosecution would have loved.
	Rush them to trial while you know that you're withholding exculpatory information so that they don't have a fair trial.
	So it's like, yeah, rush to an unfair trial or suffer in jail and hope that you get a fair trial at the end of the day.
	So I don't think that's fair criticism.
	Well, there's no exculpatory video being withheld at that tunnel battle.
	That tunnel battle...
	Is filmed, video released, publicly available from every possible angle.
	Every move he made during that time is on camera.
	So he may think that he has exculpatory evidence.
	And what he's going to argue is they attacked this lady.
	That's right, provocation.
	Yeah, and we have seen...
	I won't say if it's exculpatory or not, but we have seen video footage that was released showing rather improper police conduct, which could be clearly exculpatory.
	But that video is amply available.
	It's not being withheld from him.
	Well, I'm not sure if it is or not now, but I believe it certainly was and some stuff was at a given point in time, as it was with all the Jan Sixers.
	Yeah, but Lange, and I'm not saying that he shouldn't have been, but Lange, like others...
	of his ilk and others that participated in the level of violence in which he did participate in that have been held.
	Now, Viva, there are guys that participated in Ample amount of violence that were not held in pre-child detention.
	Every judge is different.
	There's no standard here that they're working off of.
	Every judge is the god of his own courtroom, and he makes his own decisions.
	That's why some people, like myself, I'm being denied the right to carry my firearms, whereas Stephen Horn was given his back.
	Different judge.
	I know a felony defendant who he was never even required to surrender his firearms.
	He didn't even have to ask for them back.
	Again, a different judge altogether.
	So I completely, you and I are in complete agreement that all of these defendants are being unfairly prosecuted.
	I say persecuted.
	And certainly, By way of comparison to equal type offenders across the board, whether we're looking at the 2020 riots, we're looking at the Pro-Hamas riots, whether we're looking at the riots of January 20th, 2017, which hundreds of people attacked federal officers that night, hundreds were arrested, and all of them ended up having their cases thrown out.
	All of them.
	All right.
	I think we've exhausted that.
	I mean, we agree on the basics.
	Again, I just think it's some of the criticism against Jake.
	First of all, whether or not it's idealized, I think it's just displaced energy.
	And I'm really going to be very, very reluctant to accuse someone who's been stuck in solitary of...
	To blame them for anything that's happened to them.
	It goes a little bit beyond victim blaming.
	You've never accused him of being a Fed.
	I know other people have because they say, oh, he's got a phone, he's got to be a Fed, he's got to be an informant and all this other crap.
	And I've spoken to him and I think it's all a load of crap.
	But I sure as hell will be very, very reluctant to accuse anyone who's gone through what Jake has gone through of that.
	Jeremy McKenzie of Diagalon, this is the guy who started his online community with Diagalon, he gets hauled off to solitary for...
	Trumped up charges that ultimately get dropped.
	And people say, oh, you see, the charges got dropped.
	He must have been a Fed.
	I was like, yeah, after he spent weeks in solitary, if he's a Fed, he's the worst Fed.
	It's a very cheap and divisive accusation to make, which is why I'm very even reluctant to entertain the accusations of you being Fed.
	You can be wrong on certain things, and I think you are, but not a Fed.
	Now, before we get into the last one, this is going to be fun.
	This is the FBI raid.
	Let me, if I may...
	Just read, I saw a super, a crumble rant from Ginger Ninja, who was just on with Matt Christensen yesterday.
	King of Biltong has become a new monthly supporter.
	Biltong is the meat.
	It's delicious.
	Ginger Ninja says, so we're supposed to require O 'Keefe to be a sappy 60-year-old father figure to a drunk at a bar.
	If you ask me...
	I think I agree with Ginger here.
	That's equally creepy.
	Come, young lady, give me your father's number.
	I'll take you home.
	If he did, Steve would be saying that he's taking advantage of her.
	Ginger says, what I hear from Steve, bend the knee to the tyrants who engage in cruel and unusual punishments.
	Anyway, that's fair enough.
	Ginger, thank you.
	And then we got King of Biltong, who says, good morning from Anton's Meat Meat.
	Free shipping on your Biltong using code VIVA.
	BillTongUSA.com, AntonUSA.com.
	We're sending you some of the Carmine functional red teas.
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	Thank you very much.
	And I got the package.
	We went to the post office yesterday.
	Steve, what the hell happened yesterday?
	Now I sort of forget.
	I'm going to have to go back to the tweets.
	It had to do with the February...
	Let me get it so I don't misquote anything.
	Because this is where things just get misunderstood.
	So you're saying...
	Okay, no, I need to get my tweet.
	It was in response to yours, I think.
	This has...
	Give me a second, people.
	I just don't want to...
	Okay, that's the Vatican.
	That was later on in the day.
	We got this.
	We're showing Elon that there's sex bots galore.
	Okay, here we go.
	It's coming down here.
	Just follow your reasoning through.
	This is it here.
	Okay, fine.
	This is where Twitter is just...
	It's just made for misunderstandings.
	And I don't take offense to very much on Twitter.
	But things easily get misread.
	Okay, now we're going to go here.
	I do this all on one computer so I don't toggle, like, Minority Report.
	And we got this.
	Okay, so your tweet was, to those of you claiming the Mar-a-Lago document raid was, quote, an assassination attempt by the FBI, now I remember, and the Secret Service were also in on it, I have to assume you also believe that both FBI and Secret Service had no idea Trump was in New York at the time of the raid.
	Okay.
	First of all, I think the Secret Service here would have been Trump's Secret Service, that the idea was that there was going to be a conflict or potential provocation of I was going to ignore this completely.
	This was a fray I did not want to participate in until I heard several large Influencers.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene said it was a thwarted assassination attempt.
	Now, that's hyperbolic, but it certainly was a situation that could reasonably foreseeably create conflict leading to potential fatal conflict.
	That we can agree on.
	We had several influencers using the various language that this was an assassination attempt to even, and I wrote it down, one of them, the most absurd that I read was that this was a, that the Biden administration had orchestrated and planned a A bloodbath at Mar-a-Lago.
	Everyone knows that's intended to be somewhat hyperbolic and somewhat interpretive because if it were an assassination attempt, it's not going to happen like that because it's going to be an outbreak of violence from a misunderstanding like Waco, like Ruby Ridge, like the blind guy up for his Facebook messages.
	What was his name?
	Craig Robertson.
	I didn't mean to be disrespectful.
	I don't know his name.
	But sorry, please.
	So go on.
	So you see people saying this and you don't like it, but I think we all understand what they mean by it.
	And it doesn't matter.
	Once again, what you use as a preface to your observation or your argument, because I will once again say this, and I will be very surprised if you disagree with me on this, is that there was nothing justifiable about that.
	Of course.
	Nothing.
	From its conception, to its implementation, to the local magistrate signing off on it, to Merrick Garland directing it, if it came straight from the desk of Joe Biden itself, there's nothing justifiable.
	It is wrong, it is evil, it's political, and it is reprehensible top of the bottom.
	I would say third world country, but I think it's like Eastern European.
	I don't want to judge developing.
	It's just pure corruption and pure weaponization.
	Now, we agree on that.
	Now, let me ask you this, though.
	As far as a sequence of events that increased the likelihood of a violent conflict, we also agree that one of the unintended or intended consequences of this unjust, corrupt, abusive raid is that it could have ended in violence very, very easily foreseeable.
	Very easily, I would take umbrage with that characterization because I don't believe that it would be very easy because, first of all, everybody on both sides of the line knew that when this was coming, these FBI agents, they want to go home to Mama and their kids tonight also.
	They know they're going up against Secret Service agents.
	These are two very skilled...
	Groups of operatives.
	This is not a fight either side wants to have, and I'm sure exactly what happened was there was a couple of handshakes early on, and let's get on with this.
	We've got a warrant, and okay, we've got to do it.
	We have to get there first, all right?
	Because once that judge signed off on the warrant, then A system of protocols, standard protocols, were initiated that are initiated in every such rate.
	Now, this is where everybody gets mad.
	Everybody goes, there's nothing standard about this.
	There's nothing normal about this.
	There are no protocols for invading a former president's home and digging through his wife's, you know, panty drawer and, you know, rifling through his son's.
	You're right.
	It's never happened before.
	I mean, that particular circumstance has never happened before, but what has happened every single other time in every other type of raid where they are doing and executing a search warrant of any type, nonviolent crime, violent crime, blue collar, white collar, doesn't matter, is this form right here.
	After the judge signs off on it, then it's up to, at that moment, a...
	A string of command-level FBI have to start filling out this FD88 form.
	Here's a blank one right here.
	And the reason why I printed out a blank one is because we get to the Use of Force page.
	Everything about this form is blank.
	It's about 16 or 18 pages.
	I didn't print it all out.
	But it's just a bunch of blanks that you have to fill in, right?
	It's all standard protocol.
	Whoever gets the hand is like, ah, crap, I've got to fill out all of this.
	It's a lot of work.
	It's a lot of information you have to put together.
	But when you get to page 10, the only thing that is pre-filled out, Viva, is the policy statement, use of deadly force.
	It's already filled in.
	They did not do this, use of force, and add it.
	Without precedent to Trump's warrant.
	This was not outside of protocol.
	This is standard operating procedure.
	The use of force protocol is pre-printed.
	Nothing else is.
	Nothing else is.
	But Steve, and the obvious retort to that is they deliberately made use of a procedure that authorized deadly force.
	In a raid on the former president, while in addition to that, authorizing plainclothes officers to carry arms during this raid.
	The idea that it's standard protocol, standard operating procedure A, is a problem in and of itself.
	That means that you've got a militarized secret police, effectively, who are authorized to kill, as they did with Craig Robertson.
	That was the guy who threatened Biden on Facebook.
	As they did at Waco, as they did at Ruby Ridge, as they tried to do with...
	Oh, jeez, I can't remember his name now.
	Another one of the raids where they throw concussive grenades at a place where they know he's got guns in the hopes that he comes over with a gun so they can shoot him.
	That was in Tennessee.
	So the idea that it's standard operating procedure, A, is a problem on its face.
	That doesn't absorb...
	That's a different argument.
	That doesn't absolve the government because all that that means is that they were deliberately weaponizing what they know is a quiver in their arsenal, or that's the wrong, an arrow in their quiver, a weapon in their arsenal.
	They know, oh, it's standard operating, so let's go use it.
	And if all hell breaks loose and there's a firefight because Trump's Secret Service sees plainclothed people approaching Mar-a-Lago?
	But we can only speculate that because we never heard that conversation.
	Well, you don't need to speculate because they did something, which is standard operating procedure, which is absolutely unheard of as relates to a documents raid on a president.
	So, like, the fact that they're using standard operating procedure lethal force, potential force...
	Unheard of is a document raid on a president.
	And we've already agreed that this is reprehensible.
	It's abhorrent.
	As you said, it's Eastern European bullshit.
	This is the kind of stuff I would expect from Soviet states or from China or whatever.
	But that is the part we agree on.
	As I said, though, is that it doesn't matter if it's a document raid or it's a raid on a four-misdemeanor photojournalist out of Pensacola.
	Once the warrant is signed, these forms have to be filled out, and it happens 100% of the time.
	And the use of force is there because 100% of the time, it's armed law enforcement officers showing up.
	At the house, the business, or whatever the facility is that's being served the warrant.
	And that's just because they're armed.
	There was no special intent beyond the political optics of this raid and the ultimate purpose of this raid to try and take Trump out.
	When I say take him out politically, there was no purpose Specifically mandated by this that was exceptional to any other such served warrant.
	They're always armed, and that's why they don't have to fill this part out.
	I think everybody agrees on that.
	No one is disagreeing with the fact that it's pre-filled.
	That's good.
	All that that means is that they did it knowing that they were guaranteed the right to use force when raiding a former president with his own secret service where there could be a legitimate clash and a predictable one between, from what I understand, maybe you know as well, between two seemingly equal levels of the government where you have the...
	It's the federal...
	Law enforcement who protect the president and the feds who are now raiding the president.
	This was built for a potential disaster that sure as hell would have...
	Actually, just going back to your tweet where you said, oh, you think the FBI didn't know that he wasn't home?
	Which is like, all right, did I misunderstand?
	You're saying so the fact that they knew he wasn't there somehow makes it better or makes it less bad, I guess.
	Am I saying it makes it less bad?
	I'm saying that it was clearly not an attempted assassination because, look, I talked to my FBI Agents all the time.
	The guys that have been building the case on me for three years, I have a chat with them all the time.
	I say, hey, Craig, hey, Garrett, how are you doing today?
	And joke whenever I'm talking to somebody else.
	Whereas in my old travels in the Soviet Union, I used to lean over to the lab and go, testing, testing, one, two.
	KGB, are you there?
	I joke about that in the same manner.
	But what I'm not joking about is they know where I am at all times.
	This is one of the absurdities in my own pretrial restrictions that I have to notify them when I'm going out of the district.
	But this was my point.
	So then you are in fact saying they knew he wasn't there and they're carrying out a raid on a defendant knowing that he's not there.
	That's even worse!
	It can't be worse than it already is.
	It can't be worse.
	This is the worst thing that, in my opinion, has ever been done to a former president.
	And I'm saying that as a guy who's never been a Trump supporter.
	It's horrible.
	It's horrible.
	My argument is that it was not a planned bloodbath, and it was not...
	A failed assassination attempt.
	I think you're splitting hairs a little bit because the bottom line is it could easily have become one, maybe not reasonably forced, maybe not probability-wise, certainly more likely that there's a prospect of violence when there's a raid on anybody, period.
	I would first of all argue that in this particular instance, it had the lowest level of probability because whoever the special agent in charge was, Called the lead, you know, Secret Service guy on the ground there and said, you know, we got this warrant.
	We're coming.
	I know this sucks.
	This is a bunch of bullshit.
	I'm guaranteed they had that conversation.
	I've had that conversation with one of the U.S. Marshals that was processing me at the federal courthouse in Dallas.
	He looked at my paperwork and he went, man, this is bullshit.
	Well, Steve, actually, hold on.
	I'm reading Ginger Ninja who says, well, first of all, Pinochet's helicopter tour says, sorry, the enemy is the enemy.
	I am under no obligation to forgive, associate, or tinkle with the enemy.
	Tinkle on the enemy if they were on fire.
	But Ginger says, they were authorized to go in with box cutters, Steve.
	Assassination, I think nobody takes it entirely literally.
	Not seriously, but not literally.
	My operating theory is that they have been trying to expose Trump to as much natural danger as humanly possible, or danger from unhinged lefties, so they make him go to Georgia for his mugshot.
	It's one, for the humiliation, but two, get him out in public where nutcases can do nutcase things.
	Bring him to court in New York, day in and day out, where stupid people, crazy people can do stupid and crazy things.
	What do you have to say for the fact that they're authorizing them to go in with box cutters, plain clothes?
	Let me see what else here.
	Yeah, cars and rifles.
	I mean, it's something that, hey, if shit pops off, all the better.
	It'll make it look like we've got a rogue president, a Russian asset, who's now taking on the FBI.
	I mean, that's what it would have looked like.
	That's what it would have been framed as.
	Trump there or not.
	The fact that he's not there, and that he's not there to supervise what's going on, and they had the whole security camera issue.
	I mean, we agree, it's all terrible.
	But I don't think it's a laughable idea that this was...
	If there would have been violence or something catastrophic, that would have been a feature, not a bug, of the situation.
	As I said, this is my logical reasoning, is that the chances of violence were diminished by, in fact, who the two blue and blue forces were.
	Now, I think you'd have a greater chance of violence if the FBI ATF tried to execute a warrant.
	On some sheriff's county down here in Texas, and the sheriff said, hell no, you're not coming into my county.
	I think you'd have a bigger chance of that happening rather than two federal agencies, because they certainly were in communication with each other, and they certainly all want to go home to mama and to their kids, and there was not going to be a shootout.
	There was not going to be a shootout at the Mar-a-Lago Corral that day.
	Well, I don't know, man.
	I'm certain that the FBI agents who showed up and...
	Koresh's place, they all wanted to go home too, but they also wanted to test out some of their new tools that they had in the arsenal.
	Steve, what else is going on?
	We've gotten through our three grievances, and I still have no problem with you, even though I still think...
	The other thing is, I appreciate the risk of trying to be too, not holier than thou, but too...
	It's a silly thing because nobody really thinks it was like an overt missile to helicopter, but what it was, as far as I'm concerned, a Department of Justice deliberately acting in a provocational manner.
	That could easily have triggered violence.
	And had it triggered the violence, they would have just said, you know, now January 6th and now the standoff at Mar-a-Lago.
	I mean, that's what it would have been framed as.
	So I think it was deliberate.
	I think they didn't care if there was violence and they would have loved it because they would have reframed it to their liking.
	What do you have coming up in the next little while?
	What are you working on these days?
	We're going to do our final edition of the Officer Harry Dunn story.
	We're actually calling it A Day in the Life of Harry Dunn on January 6th.
	It's going to be a mini-documentary.
	I'm hoping to have that out within the next couple of weeks.
	It's a lot of work.
	I've done a year and a half of work on this guy's life.
	When I say his life story, his day in the life story of the...
	Perjurous cop who helped and participated in the frame-up of the Oath Keepers and whose testimony along with the testimony of Special Agent David Lazarus was a case of suborn perjury by the Department of Justice.
	People hear what I'm saying?
	I'm pointing fingers at the effing Department of Justice and I've done it over and over and over again and I'm coming after them.
	I'm coming after them.
	I'm going to eventually show who sat on the star chamber, who framed the Oath Keepers.
	Because the Oath Keepers, for whatever they were guilty of, they were not guilty for what they were charged and convicted.
	Some people in the chat, Ginger Ninja being one of them, is saying, show me proof that there was communication between the FBI and the Secret Service.
	And I would venture that there wasn't, because if there was communication, the raid becomes even more inexplicable.
	Hold on, let me see this here.
	Someone else said, Rivka the J-Gamer.
	I don't think they were wanting to go in and get into a bloodbath, but I think they wouldn't have minded if it had.
	Imagine the optics of Trump's Secret Service fired upon the FBI to protect the film.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me see if there's anything in local.
	We had a couple of tips here.
	View tip.
	Oh, there's a few.
	Did you get the...
	Okay, I got that one.
	Thank you both for showing everyone.
	This is from Quarter Native.
	Thank you for showing everyone how two people can disagree and still have a civil combo.
	I follow you both on X and have great interactions with both of you.
	Well done, gentlemen.
	Shiloh, thank you very much.
	Dred Roberts, Viva suggesting an assassination attempt is not necessarily hyperbolic.
	People like Barnes, Barrett, and others have suggested assassination is on the table and a serious possibility.
	Why assume not serious?
	That's from Dred Roberts.
	I agree, because it's not going to be an assassination like poisoning Navalny, to the extent that that is the way it actually went down.
	It can't be an overt assassination.
	It has to be something like an accident or something like this.
	If you were going to set it up so that shit pops off, what else would you do differently?
	Okay, good.
	It didn't happen, and we just raided the former president, and then we had the FBI in there when Trump wasn't there, framing evidence and setting up evidence of falsified documents.
	But if they're going to try to do it, it can't look like an assassination.
	It's got to look like something inadvertent.
	So what other way would they have done it if not for that?
	But I agree.
	We probably won't agree on that.
	You know, my personal opinion is, knowing the gregarious nature of Trump, had he been there at Mar-a-Lago, he would have been the first one out the door, first one to walk out and shake every one of their hands.
	And he would have laughed with them.
	And, you know, he'd immediately started.
	You know, Truth Social sending out posts and taking pictures of what was going on.
	He would have had a PR field day with that.
	And nobody's going to shoot the president in that moment.
	They've shot other people, Steve.
	Yeah, they have, but we're talking about unprecedented times, unprecedented territory.
	Interesting party.
	This is just not a situation where that was going to develop.
	Logic, as far as I know.
	And I will vehemently disagree with you on that, but that doesn't matter.
	Now we know where the disagreement begins and ends.
	Interested Party says, the blame is with the DOJ, not the FBI, for causing a dangerous situation with the search warrant.
	Both the FBI and Secret Service were put in danger they shouldn't have been in, and Merrick Garland is to blame.
	But all of that has been known since the day of the raid, not news.
	Maybe news to Julie Kelly, but not news.
	It was Merrick Garland that had to ultimately have signed off on all of this?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And let's If you want to talk a little bit more about where my future lies, is my judge, Judge Christopher Cooper.
	That's a D.C. district court judge.
	And the guy who officiated Judge Cooper's wedding in 1999 was none other than a man by the name of Merrick Garland.
	My judge, Christopher Cooper.
	Also, famously, in Dr. Simone Gold's sentencing hearing, which she was given 60 days in prison for peacefully entering a restricted space, he told her in her sentencing hearing, he said that the January 6th may be about a lot of things, but the one thing that it's not about is the First Amendment, which I would...
	Disagree with him 180 degrees on that statement.
	And furthermore, Judge Christopher Cooper, my judge, is the same judge that held Catherine Herridge of CVS in contempt for not turning over her sources to the court when ordered.
	That's who I'm up against.
	This is the Department of Justice I'm up against.
	Yeah, well, look, let me play devil's advocate and say what some will say, that you're trying to buy good grace with that administration by taking certain positions publicly that I have taken issue with.
	I mean, that's what someone will say.
	And let me tell you how foolish that is.
	It's because, no, you're exactly right.
	My thread after that is full of comments exactly saying that exact thing.
	I don't have to believe something in order to know what someone would argue in that position.
	They would argue that.
	Yeah, no.
	They said that I've either already cut a deal for leniency, which is why I'm taking this position, or that's what I'm vying for is a more lenient sentence from Cooper going forward.
	Whereas, instead of doing that, I'm continuing to call out the DOJ.
	I'm continuing to call out judiciary on this.
	And I'm even calling out, you know, the...
	Seeming spineless, gutless, ballless legislators over in the legislative branch who will not engage in the proper investigations necessary to bring this nightmare to an end that is the J6 prosecutions.
	You don't have a date yet.
	No, I haven't even offered a plea deal yet.
	I would anticipate, I've been anticipating that before my next status hearing on June 3rd is that I'm going to get that.
	But see, now because of this unusual minute order denial, because what happened is the DCPSO actually lied to Judge Cooper and told Cooper that I couldn't have my full...
	Privacy rights back or my gun rights back because this is what the PSO told the judge.
	Because I, quote unquote, threatened a high-ranking federal officer during the riot.
	What actually happened is over drinks with my best friend in a hotel in Virginia, I called Nancy Pelosi a bitch.
	I'm surprised you kept it only at the B word and you didn't go up the alphabet to the C word.
	What comes after that?
	The D word.
	Totally unrelated.
	How is everything going at the blaze?
	I wish I could follow everybody's stuff more than I do, but how's it going at the blaze?
	For me, it's fantastic.
	I mean, I've found a home.
	When the editor-in-chief called me back in July of last year and said that they were going to make me an offer to come on board as a correspondent, I told, his name's Matthew, and I said, Matt, I said, I'm...
	Not blowing wind up your skirt.
	I'm being perfectly honest.
	I said this is the only company that could have called me that I would have given up my independence to go to work for.
	Fantastic.
	Steve, where can people find you?
	Well, obviously, they can attack me and call me a Fed anytime on X at TPC4USA.
	I know you told me why.
	Why is it TPC4USA?
	Because my blog for years was the Pragmatic Constitutionalist.
	And so it was TPC4USA.
	And then my locals page, I actually have a, I mean, I have my thepragmaticconstitutionalist.locals.com.
	Well, that's too long.
	So it's now, you can just type in TPC4USA.com.
	TPC4USA.locals.com.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to give everybody that link right here.
	Yeah, if you just do TPC4USA.com, it takes you straight to my locals page.
	Oh, I see if you do TPC4USA.
	Okay.
	I'm going to give everybody that link right now as well.
	And then it's the same thing on Facebook.
	It's TPC4USA everywhere.
	TPC4, the number 4 USA.
	Yep, that's it.
	Ordinarily, I would end and we would say our proper goodbyes, but we've already done that the first time and I'm going to go hop on over to my locals for our locals after party.
	But first of all, thank you.
	Second of all, I still vehemently disagree with you on all three of these issues and some of the nuance that you're trying to flesh out.
	I think if it had turned into a bloodbath, it would have been a fortuitous turn of events for the administration.
	I'm sickened that Merrick Garland is disgracing the DOJ.
	Mayorkas is disgracing the border.
	And I know how people are going to interpret that.
	Based on who those people are individually.
	And it's gross and it's terrible.
	And I have no doubt that they're trying to do something even more awful to Trump than what they're doing right now.
	But that's it.
	We know where we disagree and I'll still continue to follow you on Twitter.
	As I will you.
	Thank you.
	Alright.
	Go.
	Have a good day.
	You too.
	Thanks.
	Everybody, that was fun.
	Now I'm going to give everybody the link to Locals because we're going to go over for our Locals after party where we're going to have the...
	The rapid-fire Q&A, or we do the AMAs, I believe the children call them these days.
	Locals.
	And I'll read some of the rumble rants that I showed the discretion not to read.
	Look, I still like Steve, even though I disagree with him.
	I think he's doing good work.
	I think he's honest.
	I have more questions about some other accusations and shipwreck crew.
	Now I understand why Barnes...
	Takes issue with Shipwreck Crew.
	Let me take a few minutes before we go over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com to go through some of the chat over here on Rumble.
	I'm just going to go randomly.
	With the genetic statement of, I'm not sponsored, I just like them.
	Buy from them.
	Okay, I don't know what that's about.
	America is coming to an end.
	No, it is not voluntary, John.
	Not at least.
	If America comes to an end, there's nowhere else to go, people.
	I mean, as much as people romanticize about how clean the metro subsystem is in Russia and it's got its ups and it's got its good pros and cons and ups and downs, you know, not only the Snowdens and the Reeds who are escaping even worse persecution here.
	There's a lot of people moving to Russia now anyhow.
	But bottom line, all governments are corrupt and you just have to pick the least corrupt and make sure that you hold them to account.
	I'm not sure that that can be said to be true of...
	You know, former East Bloc countries or Russia.
	Let me see here.
	I'm not your buddy guy.
	By the way, people, not everyone is a Fed.
	It would bankrupt the U.S. in a day.
	PSYOPs exists for a reason, to convince people to believe something they wouldn't, given the facts.
	Well, it's fine.
	It's also, I'm not your buddy guy.
	It depends on how people understand the term Fed.
	Some people will say someone doing the bidding of the Fed or someone who's brainwashed into doing the bidding of the Fed is a Fed.
	Remunerated or not, I think they've convinced people to be feds unwittingly.
	Mass formation psychosis, MKUltra people.
	It's not the craziest thing that can happen.
	Let me see here.
	We're going to do this, and then we're going to head on over to viva, barneslaw.locals.com.
	Here, this is the link to Locals, and I'm going to read the chats that I might have skipped over during the stream.
	here.
	Boom.
	I just laughed at everyone from the left who were wishing Trump was there to be shot after weeks of mocking, quote, would a president have immunity if he sent SEAL Team 6 to assassinate My goodness.
	I'm screen-grabbing that because that is irony.
	I think the absolute worst part was using the D.C. FBI team instead of the one with actual jurisdiction in Florida.
	Love you, Steve.
	You're giving the good faith answers.
	Yeah, and I think Barnes actually made an observation that it sounds like I'm not faulting DeSantis or anything.
	He's a good governor.
	It sounds like they might have been advanced notice to DeSantis and nothing done to impede or frustrate or challenge this raid.
	At Mar-a-Lago.
	Ginger says, tell me you know nothing about law enforcement without telling me you know nothing about law enforcement.
	A citizen has the right to use lethal force 24-7.
	It's called self-defense.
	Pinochet's helicopters.
	There is no downside in demonizing the DOJ and FBI.
	Their original sin occurred when they joined.
	Ginger, I got this one.
	Pinochet.
	We did it!
	We did it, people!
	Okay, so now what we're going to do...
	If you're not coming over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com, stay tuned for a daily update on something.
	This afternoon, I sent myself a link of something that I wanted to cover.
	Oh, yeah, the arrest of that golfer.
	Apparently, the Louisville officer has been sanctioned for not following proper protocol when arresting a pro golfer going to a tournament who was...
	I don't know what happened to his round.
	I'll have to see.
	I think I'll do a follow-up on that.
	Or by follow-up, I mean cover it for the first time because I've been following it myself, but have not followed up on it yet.
	Okay, what we are going to do is end on Rumble.
	If you're not coming over, see you tomorrow.
	Tomorrow's Friday.
	Something good should be happening tomorrow.
	Stay tuned.
	And if you are coming over, vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Sunday night's show is going to be a banger, so stay tuned.
	Subscribe, share around.
	If you don't want to support financially, sharing is caring.
	You know, hold on, think.
	Share it with someone who you think might get pissed off.
	That would make me happy.
	All right, go.
	Enjoy the day.
	Locals, here I come.
	We are here.
	Are we here?
	We are at the happy...
	Oh, I forgot to tell everybody it was my birthday.
	Who cares?
	Happy birthday, Viva.
	Wishing you the best.
	I hope man and the kids pamper you today.
	All I want is a tomahawk steak on a barbecue.
	That's all I want.
	I'm going to go over to Easy Meats.

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