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Nov. 27, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

02:19:42

Interview with Kyle Kemper (Justin Trudeau's Half-Brother) - Talking Politics, RFK Jr. AND MORE!

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	What are we doing here?
	We are restricting freedom.
	But we're doing it for the common good, yeah.
	You will see that throughout our constitution, yes, you have rights, but they are restricted for the common good, yeah.
	Everything needs to be balanced.
	And if your views on other people's identities go to make their lives unsafe and insecure and cause them such deep discomfort that they cannot live in the peace, then I believe it is our job as legislatures to restrict those freedoms for the common good.
	All right.
	I admit I could have done that much better if I had more time, was more patient, if I could have found an AI generator to transcribe audio in a German accent.
	I did that.
	That was my idea.
	Actually, Luke Rudkowski, in responding to that Irish...
	She's the Green Party senator?
	I don't know how it works.
	She's an actual...
	I think she's a member of European Parliament.
	Something involved in the Irish Green Party.
	Although I dubbed that over in a Germanic accent.
	A very bad one, yeah.
	And then I slowed it down so that you would sound like this and it was easier to coordinate the time.
	That was verbatim what she said.
	It's like...
	I mean...
	We have gone a long way.
	We have strayed a fair distance from Ayn Rand.
	There is no greater minority than the individual.
	And if you don't support individual rights, you don't support minority rights.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	When you say something in an Irish accent, it sounds so nice.
	We're going to lock you up for that meme there, eh, boy?
	Oh, don't take it personally.
	It's just for the greater good, eh?
	You can't upset people's feelings and whatnot.
	Nuts.
	Today's show is going to be amazing.
	It's amazing.
	And I'll explain.
	I thought it was supposed to be Arnold.
	It could have been Arnold.
	For the history of humanity, there will be no greater menacing accent, or I should say no more menacing an accent, since a German or Japanese.
	Maybe it's just because of culturally where we're brought up, where for once upon a time, the villains in movies were Germans, Russians, Japanese.
	But I bet you in other parts of the world they have the most menacing accent to them.
	It's the Canadian one, eh?
	Oh yeah, I can take this out of here.
	Get that chat off the screen.
	She's a freaking tyrant, eh?
	I was blown away listening to her.
	That's supposed to be a Canadian-Irish accent.
	Alright, good segue.
	This entire show is going to be Canada-centric.
	Until we get to the RFK Jr. campaign side of it.
	I go into my Twitter DMs every now and again, and since they've enabled that DMing, even if you're not following someone, and it goes into sort of like request folders like you had on Instagram, and I go through it every now and again.
	The majority of the time, I go through a few, and then you realize why open DMs is just an invitation for disaster.
	But every now and again, you come across some legit ones, and you accept, you interact, you, you know.
	And that's it.
	And then every now and again, you get one that comes from a guy named Kyle Kemper, who says he's Justin Trudeau's brother.
	And you think, okay, I'm an ignorant buffoon because I didn't know a lot of now what I know about the Trudeau family, Margaret's second marriage, second or third?
	Second marriage, a second family.
	And it turns out that lo and behold, Kyle Kemper, it's not just Trudeau's brother.
	I mean, that's one heck of a shadow to be living under.
	He's his own man and a very insightful one at that.
	And now he's working on the RFK Jr. campaign out in Florida.
	The world is amazing.
	There are no coincidences.
	It's just like the cosmos working in a very, very interesting manner.
	And when you see Kyle Kemper, when I bring him on screen, I think a lot of you are going to say, you two look like you could be brothers from another mother.
	We're going to get into all of it.
	And I mean...
	All of it.
	When I say all of it, I mean all of it.
	All right.
	So that's it.
	We're live.
	Let me just make sure that we're live on all platforms.
	We're on Rumble.
	Let me refresh and make sure it's good there.
	Are we good there?
	Okay, we're good there.
	Let me make sure that we're good on Locals.
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
	We are.
	And for those of you who are new to the channel, watching for the first time, where the heck have you been?
	Viva Frye, David Frye, Montreal litigator turned Florida rumbler.
	Livestreams, interviews, legal analysis, political commentary, so on and so forth.
	And the occasional awesome drone bass fishing video.
	Capture alligators eating turtles.
	It's just an amazing thing when you live in Florida.
	The way it works is no medical advice, no election fortification.
	That joke is old.
	We end on YouTube and go exclusively to Rumble 15, 20, 30 minutes in, maybe 40, depending on how we feel.
	And then we're exclusive on Rumble.
	After we're done with the stream on Rumble, we head over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com for an exclusive after party.
	If Kyle stays with us, maybe some questions from the community, we'll see.
	That's the format.
	The link to the Rumble thing is in the pinned comment.
	up there, but I'll just periodically keep popping it in there so you can get over there.
	Alright, that's enough.
	Five minutes intro.
	Kyle's waiting in the backdrop.
	Coming in three, two, one.
	Kyle?
	Yes!
	Viva!
	Viva!
	Let's go!
	I looked, when I saw you in the backdrop, I was like, holy cow, did I, did I, is that me?
	It's, it's amazing, actually.
	Our hair is roughly the same length.
	Your beard is much fuller.
	There's no gray hair in it.
	A little bit.
	Not too much coming yet, but...
	Kyle, this is...
	It's amazing.
	It's fortuitous.
	And look, we spoke yesterday, and I'll tell everybody the joke that I made you.
	I'm going to make a lot of jokes about the disdain I have for your half-brother.
	I mean, it cannot be avoided.
	It's the elephant in the room that everybody knows is there.
	But I've listened to you now.
	I listened to two podcasts and then some.
	First of all, I mean, I like your perspective on everything, and we're going to get into it.
	But look, the one-liner before we delve deep into childhood.
	Tell those who don't know who you are who you are.
	Elevator pitch.
	Wow.
	Hey, everybody.
	Thank you very much for tuning in, being here.
	My name is Kyle Kemper.
	I'm a child of the earth, and I was born in Canada, and I hold a Canadian passport.
	My mother was or is Margaret Trudeau.
	I have three older brothers or had three older brothers, Justin, Sasha, and Michelle.
	Tragically passed away in an avalanche when he was 23 and I was 13 years old.
	I, for the last decade, have been deep in the crypto world and the Bitcoin world.
	And that just opened up an amazing amount of doors and really looked at how we decentralize all the things and look towards solutions.
	Pivotal moment in my life was 2001, September 11th, when that thing happened.
	And I was like, this is a little bit sketchy.
	And then Luke...
	Released Loose Change in 2005, I think.
	Barry Zwicker in 2003 released his book.
	Then Peter Joseph released Zeitgeist in 2007.
	Then Ron Paul came on the scene in 2008.
	This was just the progression.
	When 9-11 happens, you're 16 years old.
	Right.
	Grade 11. Holy crab apples.
	We're going to back it up all the way to the beginning.
	Like, I'm going to say this up front, like, not being defined as, but being Trudeau's half-brother, I mean, it's baggage.
	It's almost like the, not living in the shadow in any good sense when it comes to this.
	It's sort of like being David Grohl, and then Nirvana ends, and you're like, you're the drummer for Nirvana, but now you have to define your own existence.
	And for you, you've got to, you know, define your own existence.
	Setting aside what people think about your brother, who there's going to be guilt by association, but I think when people hear you talk, there's going to be no more lingering doubt.
	Kyle Kemper means that you don't have the same father.
	That's right.
	So your father was...
	My father's Friedhelm Kemper.
	And yeah, he came over to Canada like 1952, you know, from Germany.
	So they kind of...
	His father was forced to serve in...
	You know, in the German army.
	And then they emigrated over here.
	Tough times getting settled.
	But, you know, he has been in Ottawa and is a great businessman and a great mentor to myself.
	And I love him so, oh, so dearly.
	Still alive or not alive?
	I couldn't find him.
	He's still alive.
	Oh, yeah.
	My father is 72 and my grandfather is 102 years old and still kicking as well.
	Shut the front door.
	So your grandfather, which is Friedhelm's father, was a German soldier.
	And when did your grandfather come to America?
	I say America, but come to Canada?
	1952, I believe.
	So that your grandfather comes and your father is born in...
	No, hold on.
	If your father is 72, he's still born in Germany, correct?
	Born in Germany, yeah.
	I don't even know where to start with this.
	And my other grandfather, my mother, James Sinclair, who was a very prominent politician in Canada, I never had a chance to meet him.
	He passed away when I was very young.
	But he was on the Canadian side of World War II.
	So they're on either side.
	So that answers one question.
	Friedhelm Kemper, he was a German German, not a Jewish German, who escaped after the war.
	Your grandfather served.
	Look, before we even get into...
	This is Scottish hair.
	Dude, that could be any, there's any number of demographics that that hair can belong to.
	But now, set aside when you discover that you're Trudeau's brother, what's it like growing up with a grandfather who fought in World War II?
	Do you ever discuss it?
	What was your relationship?
	Well, he's still alive.
	What's your relationship like with your grandfather?
	Oh, it's fantastic.
	And, you know, a couple years ago, my wife Brittany, you know, we were down here in Florida and we, you know, set up a little recording.
	You know, situation and recorded hours of conversation with him and his memory, short term isn't so great, but the long term is excellent.
	And, you know, the stories of, you know, what took place then and, you know, the...
	The journey that he went through was very beautiful and informative and scary.
	He was almost executed for listening to British radio way back in the day.
	He was basically smuggled out of Germany and found his way to freedom and escaped court-martial, etc., and made it to Canada.
	Coming to Canada as a German family in the 50s was tough stuff as well.
	Certainly, my father can tell all sorts of stories about how difficult it was growing up as a young German family, just making it on their own in Canada.
	That's the story.
	That's the journey.
	Where did they land when they came to Canada?
	Was it in Ontario?
	I think it was Montreal and then ultimately to Ottawa area, somewhere in Ontario, and then they ended up settling in Ottawa.
	That's where I grew up was Ottawa from the day I was born and spent a lot of time there and was really sad not to be there when you were in Ottawa for that unbelievable great Canadian trucker movement.
	I was listening to, hold on, I took a screen grab because you had some awesome insights in that.
	It was a 2022 interview.
	Hold on.
	It was called Leaving the Left for Liberty with, well, I don't see her name on the damn thing, the podcast, where you talked about that.
	But now, okay, so hold on.
	So you're born.
	I'm born.
	You're 39 years old, so you're born in 84, give or take.
	You don't know anything of your family until when?
	At what age do you start understanding the family into which you were born?
	Well, I mean, I had always had three older brothers.
	So they were like 10, 12, and 14 years older than me, Justin being 14. And so they were like my older brothers.
	And, you know, I learned so much from all three of them.
	You know, Justin was, you know, this very kind of charismatic leader, center of attention, you know, showman.
	And Sasha Alexandre was kind of the revolutionary.
	He was over there filming.
	On either sides of the wall in Israel, he was in Chechnya.
	He chronicled the Liberian secret war that went on in the 90s.
	He embedded himself in Baghdad in 2003 when it was clear that the U.S. was going to launch a mega campaign there.
	He got there and he escaped from the green zone and went and just lived with a Christian family.
	Kind of just observed and put himself out there.
	So, you know, I've learned a lot from all the different brothers over the years.
	And then my third brother, Michel, who is just this most beautiful, pure spirit.
	You know, he passed doing what he loved in an avalanche out in the Kokanee Glacier a long time ago.
	So, I mean, I don't know when, like, the moment that I realized, like, whoa, they're, you know, they're father's Pierre.
	And I had met Pierre and spent a little bit of time with him.
	You know, I liked him.
	And they had a really fun house in Montreal and a cool cottage, too.
	And we had a cool cottage as well.
	So, you know, I always just kind of grew up.
	But it wasn't like, you know, I wasn't deep into politics, like, you know, growing up so much.
	And I think one of the things my mother, like, you know, with my father was a chance to, you know, break out, break away from, you know, the paparazzi and that, you know, all-seeing media eye.
	What was the living arrangement like growing up?
	Because your mom and Pierre divorced in...
	I don't even know the year.
	It was a ways ago.
	But growing up, did she have...
	I'd say it was like 80 or something.
	I don't know.
	I was born in 84. That's when I grew up.
	My parents were together until I was about 13 years old.
	Which was 99. Or 14 years.
	From what Wikipedia said.
	But now, so are you living with the three siblings?
	Is it like shared custody?
	Or did your mom...
	Have them most of the time?
	No, they lived primarily, like, they went to, you know, university.
	They all went to university in Montreal, except for Michel, who went to university at Dalhousie.
	But they spent most of their time living with Pierre in Montreal, but they would often be visiting, and we spent a lot of time up in my cottage outside of Ottawa growing up.
	So, yeah.
	And now growing up, I mean, there's so much to unpack because I don't know if you've done...
	No, I won't ask this.
	But you seem very thoughtful about your history, your upbringing, and life in general.
	What was it?
	I mean, Margaret, your mom, still alive, gave a lot of interviews talking about a very, you know, rambunctious type of lifestyle that she and Pierre had back in the day.
	Like, when do you recall is the first time you learned about your mom's history?
	Well, I mean, one of the most kind of eye-opening things when I learned her history was when she actually put on her, she did a play with Second City in Chicago.
	And it was kind of like an autobiographical talk play with supporting visuals and stories.
	And anyways, that was really interesting because she went in and, you know, in an almost comedic fashion going over, you know, her very, you know, Credible life.
	And so, you know, that was, like, introspective.
	But honestly, she's just my mom growing up and she supported me and was, you know, was always there.
	And, you know, is a very intelligent woman and, you know, and a great mother, too.
	I mean, that's the other thing.
	It's like...
	It's your mom.
	The world knows her in a totally different way.
	You know, the butt of jokes or the, not the butt, also the source of legend in a way.
	Trudeau is your brother, and he's an enemy to many and whatever.
	They have the baggage, but they're nonetheless your flesh and blood family.
	We'll get into whether or not you talk to Trudeau, to Justin, in a bit.
	Your parents get divorced in 99, give or take.
	What was the marriage like up until the divorce?
	You know, I mean, I'm a kid, I'm growing up, and there, obviously, you know, it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
	That is a Simpsons reference.
	For anybody who doesn't know, a thousand monkeys tapping for a thousand years.
	You stupid monkeys!
	Okay, there's going to be some...
	Snippets and clippets from what I'm predicting.
	So the marriage was, was it tumultuous until the divorce?
	Did you know it was happening?
	What's it like being a 13-year-old kid, having your parents divorced?
	And then from the moment of the divorce, what's life like?
	I mean, then from, you know, the separation, I lived with my dad a little bit and then with my mother a little bit.
	We lived very close to each other.
	I think, you know, my mother, like after Michelle died in 98, like that was really, very difficult for her.
	And, you know, she's written pulp books on her struggles with mental health and bipolar, etc.
	And so like after, you know, losing her...
	Her third son, beautiful, incredible, amazing human Michelle is.
	You know, that was very challenging.
	That was challenging on the relationship.
	And then, you know, that also, like, once Michelle passed, that also kind of triggered a real sharp decline in Pierre as well.
	And so then he passed in 2000.
	Yeah, he passed 2000.
	So those were some difficult years for my mother, and they were difficult years for my father, too.
	So, you know, but I'm in high school.
	I'm kind of finding my own independence, finding my own world, you know.
	Discovered marijuana.
	It's not the greatest substance in the world, but I had a good journey with that.
	I'm grateful for its lessons and learnings and probably derailed me from a career as a pro golfer, but it's fine.
	It's boring.
	First of all, how tall are you?
	I'm going to ask that in terms of assessing your golf acumen.
	I'm six...
	6 '1"?
	Oh, shut the front door.
	Okay, well, see, now we look the same size, everybody.
	Full six inches taller than me.
	More than that.
	So, this is another thing.
	What's your handicap?
	In golf?
	Yes.
	There's a lot of jokes about that.
	What's my handicap?
	Well, I once golfed a 78. Okay!
	The best golf round of my life, I didn't lose a ball.
	And I kept the ball for a little while.
	That's a darn good round, too.
	Viva's got game.
	Well, when I lived in Quebec City, there was a period of time where I would get up at 5 in the morning and golf around before school every day.
	And there was this cheap golf course.
	It was great.
	Okay, but now hold on.
	You're living in a political family.
	A tragedy for any family is difficult enough to deal with, let alone when it gets politicized, publicized, and you have to live under that spotlight.
	Your brother, Michel, for those who don't know, was killed in an avalanche in Kokanee Park, swept away.
	I don't, you know, living through the era that we live through now, it's impossible for any prominent political family to have a tragedy like that without conspiracy theories to swell.
	Or swirl, I should say.
	At the time, this is 98, maybe the world was different, but was the world any different?
	Do you remember there being conspiracy theories, plots, all these sinister suggestions as to what might have happened?
	And what is it like trying to grieve in the public spotlight of the Trudeau family?
	I mean, I'm a little...
	I can't really comment too much about what it's like to grieve.
	I mean, I was a 13-year-old.
	I'm trying to figure out how to grieve in my own sense.
	I don't think...
	I mean, now we're in this age where it's like...
	You know, there's conspiracies on conspiracies on conspiracies and like, you know, we shouldn't trust anything.
	I think that's fair.
	I think you should, you know, apply a critical lens to it.
	But, you know, Michelle, it was early November.
	He was out there after a snowfall with his friends, you know, in the Kokanee Park and early, early season run.
	Avalanche swept him into...
	Kokanee Lake.
	His friends were with him, watched him.
	The avalanche didn't knock him out.
	He was apparently still swimming and trying to get back in, but didn't make it.
	And he sank.
	And then when they came in to try and recover his body, the first thing they needed to do was avalanche control all around.
	So they triggered a whole bunch more avalanches and filled the lake with it.
	And his body was never recovered.
	But, I mean, I've talked to his friends who were there and witnessed it, and it was one of the toughest experiences of their lives.
	Personally, I've come to great understanding of this, though, because there's an old book called Bite, Read, and Bite.
	Jean M. Aul, called The Clan of the Cave Baron.
	It's this Earth Children series.
	And they talk about how Mother Gaia, or Donnie, as they refer to in the book, every now and then she'll take a child that's really pure and really beautiful and will take in and charge up her own life force with that being.
	And Michel was one of those beings.
	He was so pure.
	He was really very, very deep spiritually and had written some prophetic writings about being okay.
	I think he was at the point where if he passed, it wasn't like big regrets.
	He lived a beautiful life, a short life, but was then taken into the mother and now...
	You know, watches over us.
	And I'll ask the direct question.
	Was this the trigger point for getting into drugs and other stuff?
	Or not necessarily just contemporaneous?
	Oh, for me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	That wasn't a trigger point.
	And how does...
	High school was that.
	And peers and social circles.
	But now, you were close with Michelle before this happened?
	I was very close.
	We were 10 years.
	Ten years apart.
	How does a 13-year-old kid, how do you cope with it at 13?
	How do you even understand what death means?
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's like he's not coming back.
	So it's very difficult.
	And then watching, you know, your mother and your sister and the rest of the family and, you know, at the same time, you're 13. So it was an experience.
	And this might be a very tough question.
	Does it create strife within the family in terms of the sentiment that, like, whether or not a mother grieving lets or creates an impression that the other kids feel less loved than the deceased?
	Did it create any of that type of dynamic where if you see in movies and they want to be dramatic about it, they say, you know, like, you loved him the most type thing.
	Was there any type of...
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	Or the sentiment that when a mother's grieving and the kids go on living, can't necessarily internalize, especially if you're young, that they're grieving the loss without grieving a favorite of any means.
	Well, actually, when that happens, there was a lot of media and a lot of people around that and a lot of people asking questions.
	And again, I'm just 13 years old.
	Then when Pierre passed again, it was like a real show at that time.
	This is all a long time ago.
	This was the journeys that we've all gone through.
	We all go through lust and bliss over the course of our journey and education.
	Each and every one of us has their own little life path.
	My path has been fairly interesting, as are everybody's.
	Well, I was just thinking this, like, literally yesterday, that you're a snowflake in terms of not being fragile, but being unique, just like everyone else.
	I don't remember who said it.
	I think my father used to say this to me growing up.
	You are singularly special and unique, just like everyone else.
	Okay, so that's that.
	Now, this is 99. When does it become clear that Trudeau, your brother, Justin, Half-brother, if anybody wants to get technical, is going into a life of politics.
	Was it always known within the family?
	I don't think...
	I mean, like...
	I would say that there was probably always a sense that, you know, that would be there.
	You kind of look up to your father.
	You kind of maybe want to be like your father.
	You see everything that he did.
	Maybe there's a kind of a desire for that, and Justin is the eldest, like, you know, is there, and he's, again, like, he's a good showman, and, you know, he's very good at connecting with people, or was very good at connecting with people.
	And so when did it, like, start getting clear that he was going to be in politics?
	I don't know.
	I feel like he was probably identified very early as someone who would be a great prime minister, a great spokesperson for the corporation.
	And I think people around him also recognize that.
	And the ambition of others combined with self-ego ambition led to that.
	A rafting guide.
	And then he was a drama teacher and a school teacher.
	And then after being a school teacher at West, he kind of participated in two films that I don't really think ever got watched by anybody.
	Where can we find them?
	I don't know.
	I put that on you.
	Go find them.
	I know what I'm doing this afternoon.
	And then after that, it's like, and then it was okay, like, you know, here's this opportunity to, you know, run as an MP, get in, like, here, this Papineau Lebel, and not Lebel, it's Papineau in Montreal.
	Oh, I'll get it.
	Papineau Lebel is the park.
	I'll get it in a second.
	That's the writing.
	I knew the guy for the PPC who ran in that writing.
	Okay, what we're going to do now, because I'm going to ask you some...
	Now we're going to get into the juice stuff.
	We're going to do this on Rumble.
	I don't even want to break up the question.
	The question number one is going to be, was he always like this?
	And I know your answer because I've listened to this, but we're going to talk about this on Rumble.
	So get your butts over to Rumble.
	I'm ending this on YouTube now.
	The link is there in the pinned comment.
	And we're going to talk about other stuff too, folks.
	Yes, we are.
	We're talking about RFK.
	We're going to talk about your book.
	We're going to talk about crypto because, look...
	I know what I think of crypto and I know what I don't understand.
	I still don't understand it, but we're definitely talking RFK and what you're doing with that campaign because I do not think badly of RFK.
	I like RFK.
	So if you can't say, I love RFK because...
	Me too.
	Okay.
	We're doing that on Rumble, ending this in 3, 2, 1 on YouTube now.
	Okay.
	Look, there's a few questions I've got to ask because otherwise people are going to...
	My crowd is going to kill me.
	But the first one is, you grew up with your brother.
	Was he always like this?
	Most of us have only known of him since 2015.
	You see videos of him where he seems to have a soul.
	He seems to be authentic.
	He seems to be young, energetic, idealistic.
	And you compare that with today.
	Some people say someone's got dirt on him.
	There's no way anybody acts like this normally.
	There are people who hypothesize about...
	Particular behaviors, you know, extracurricular activities that might get you into trouble, that might be able to be held over your head.
	Was he always like this?
	And have you noticed a transition in your own flesh and blood as you've known him your entire life?
	So, I mean, I feel like Justin really liked to be the, you know, the star of the show, the center of attention, the, you know, the...
	And be fun and creative as well.
	And so I noticed that.
	And then, you know, in politics, it was as soon as he kind of entered that space and even like nothing really changed until the scandemic.
	Like that's when I don't even I think he was like, you know, he signed up under contract.
	To be the role, the pre-plandemic one.
	I don't think he signed up or knew what he was actually getting into with his contract post-plandemic.
	like at the beginning of, at the beginning of, you know, that, the, the whole scam, I think he thought it was going to be over pretty quickly.
	And then, yeah, then it like, There's all sorts of hypotheses around what was going on, but I think he had to basically toe the line and speak the script.
	And why would someone have to do that?
	Well, you know, we can hypothesize about why someone would do that.
	But I...
	We'll say like, you know, there was definitely, you know, you can even see it in some of his own videos that, you know, some of the stuff that he was saying back in, like, you know, 2015, 2014 was, you know, made sense.
	And it was like, okay, that's clear and that's honest.
	But then, you know, fast forward to...
	You know, the deplorables, the racist bigots, anti-Semites, the transphobes.
	Unacceptables, like those right-wing, the Nazis.
	Like, come on.
	It's just absurd.
	And it was at that point.
	It really happened in mid-2020 when I was just like...
	Enough.
	Like, no, I have to speak up.
	That's when I did an article with John Iveson, you know, talking about, like, you know, be warned, folks.
	Like, they're going to use this plandemic to take away all our rights, just like they did with the Patriot Act and more.
	And I remember challenging John.
	I was like, John, you write Event 201.
	You explain how this was a planned simulation and that the corporatocracy is rolling out according to the corporate plan that was laid out by Bill Gates, World Health Organization.
	World Economic Forum, John Hopkins University.
	I challenge you to put that in your National Post article.
	Nope.
	Didn't make it.
	Nope.
	They declared that as a local Q organizer in Ottawa.
	So funny.
	When did you get involved in this side of it?
	Because if you're into crypto in 2013, which you are, you're ahead of the curve already.
	So you've already have got to be sort of politically not at odds necessarily, but veering in a separate direction.
	What brought you into this sphere in the first place?
	Well, I'll go back to like, you know, 9-11 and then Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist, you know, which part two details 9-11, what a ridiculous mythical story the official narrative is and how like, you know, completely broken it is.
	But then it gets into like, you know, how big how a big myth.
	Who could possibly orchestrate such a big myth?
	And then it gets into the men behind the curtains, the central bankers, and then really understanding, okay, this is where the real problem lies.
	And this is where our energy and our focus should be placed on.
	Not placed on these energy vampire energy vacuums, front men, spokespersons that are meant to steal your energy and suck up your hate and your love while distracting you from the larger apparatus.
	So, you know, I'll say that that's when it got...
	I remember having an early situation with Justin after...
	Remember the SPP summit with Harper, Calderon, and...
	I don't know.
	Harper, Vincente Fox, and George Bush.
	Well, of course I do.
	In Montebello.
	For everybody who doesn't remember, refresh their memories.
	So there was like this SPP, Security Prosperity Partnership, which people were warning was the foundation for the North American Union.
	And they had this gathering, I think it was a one or two day gathering in Montebello, just outside of Ottawa.
	And there were a lot of...
	You know, Canadian activists that showed up.
	There were probably a couple thousand people who appeared.
	And it was really bizarre because they set up like a free speech zone for them, like kind of far away.
	But then people were like, we're not going to hang out in this pen, this cattle pen you've created for us.
	So they went, you know, naturally to...
	Wherever they could get closest.
	And then the police presence was very interesting because it was like serious.
	In the morning, it was like the retired guys and then the next wave came out and they were a little bit more aggro.
	But by the time the third and fourth wave came out of these cops, they were like full riot gear, like really hard and ready to go.
	And it's when the full riot gear people came out that all of a sudden three guys showed up in the crowd dressed in...
	Bandanas all in black and carrying rocks.
	And then the protesters identified them really quickly like, you guys are cops!
	You're cops!
	And we're calling them out and then they were like hiding on their masks and then they end up charging the line and jumping in to the police line.
	And there's a great photo that's taken with the protesters or with these provocateurs with the police.
	And the photo clearly shows that they're all wearing the exact same shoes.
	Like the exact same shoes.
	And, you know, it came out that, you know, that these were cops and that they were going to throw those rocks and then create a violent reaction, including pepper spray and rubber bullets and, like, you know, unleash the stormtroopers on these peaceful activists because, dare you, protest in Canada.
	And that's back in 2007, right?
	And then after this, Stockwell Day...
	Our current, or was the current public safety minister at the time, came out and was like, yeah, we did that.
	And the media was like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, we did that.
	Like, all right.
	Close the book on that!
	Move forward!
	And that was just like, come on.
	And I remember telling Justin about that, and he was just like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
	Like, I can't even think about this, because it threatens a worldview.
	And so his worldview and my worldview are very different, and they are still to this day.
	I'm not sure if he actually believes in what he's saying, but he might, because of, like, you know, deep hypnosis, and, you know, as Matthias Desmet says with that mass...
	Formation psychosis theory.
	Or he's not only a good drama teacher, he's a good actor.
	Acting.
	Or he's acting.
	And I mean, look at that quantum computing performance that he put on.
	Let me back it all the way up to 9-11.
	And I'm not asking you this.
	This is not at all for ridicule.
	Full stop.
	No but.
	What's your...
	I know what my belief is as to what happened, but I still understand it's incomplete.
	What's your best guess at the official, not the official narrative, but what actually happened?
	Well, I think before hypothesizing what actually happened, I'll say what didn't happen.
	They did not find passports on site.
	I had to look this up.
	Someone told me this recently.
	They found the guy, one of the terrorist's passports, on the streets of New York in all the chaos.
	Oh, okay.
	Makes sense.
	World Trade Center 7 did not collapse at freefall speed because of a fire that jumped from buildings 1 and 2. You know, right there, that's enough that warrants, and World Trade Center 7 wasn't included in the official 9-11 Commission report.
	So it's just, there's bigger questions before getting into the hypothesizing about the intention and the malice and who did it.
	I mean, you can go in, you can see that there, and there's plenty of information to go on that to understand how...
	Ever since the 93 World Trade Center bombings kind of put the target on those to some of the pre-9 /11 anti-terror planning drills where they literally have the towers in the site.
	They were forecasting and kind of projecting.
	But it seems like it was a long time planned and it was one of these false flags to trigger a, you know, not a forever war, but an endless war that further transferred wealth from the sovereign nations into the hands of the corporatocracy and enabled the, you know, the governments in collusion with the corporatocracy to take away the rights of the people.
	Yeah, so that's where I'll stick with 9-11.
	I'll bring this up here.
	I don't know.
	I forget what PENT-T-BOM stands for.
	Sometimes referred to as the PENT-BOM.
	Codename for the FBI's probe into September 11 attacks.
	It's this.
	Here we go.
	Listen to this.
	Four of the hijackers' passports have survived in whole or in part.
	Two were recovered from the crash site of the United Airlines Flight 93 in Pennsylvania.
	Yeah, in which there was like no...
	There's no evidence of a plane even crashing in Pennsylvania.
	But they found passports there.
	There's no engines.
	There's no wreckage.
	These are the passports of Ziad Jarad.
	One belonged to the hijacker.
	This is the passport of Saddam al-Kameh.
	A passerby picked it up and gave it to a New York police detective shortly before the World Trade Center collapsed.
	I mean, it's...
	I guess in the world of randomness and things that happen, this is possible.
	So ridiculous.
	No, it's not possible.
	Come on.
	You're in a plane.
	The plane blows up in a building and somehow the passport flies out.
	Lands down.
	And then that was saying even before it collapsed.
	Because after it collapsed, you couldn't identify a person because everything was blown to smithereens because there was full of explosives.
	Kyle, it's possible.
	It's possible Building 7 collapsed because fire spread to it and the hoses for the water supply were cut and it burnt and just like that it collapsed and it controlled demolition.
	Although it was the first time in the history of humankind that a metal-framed skyscraper collapsed and it hasn't happened since.
	All right.
	Interesting.
	So you have this awakening.
	Say your political ideological paths are diametrically opposed.
	When do you discover crypto?
	So I first learned about Bitcoin in like March of 2010.
	It was like four months old.
	And we were rendering a video for one of the startups that I was working with.
	And we had another computer next to us that was running SETI, which is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, which is like...
	It was probably just the NSA actually running Bitcoin miners and crowdsourcing everybody's people to accumulate those early Bitcoins, but that's another theory.
	I looked it up and was like, oh, this is really interesting.
	But I didn't get it at the time and kind of dismissed it.
	And I think a lot of people went through that.
	And then it wasn't until 2013 when I was working in my family restaurant in Ottawa called The Clock Tower that someone walked into the bar and opened Bitcoin.
	And I was like, interesting.
	And I just kept on asking questions.
	And that kind of triggered the moment where I was like, okay.
	And at the time, I had a little hobby business making iPhone cases called the Woody.
	And someone reached out and was like, can you make a custom one for our exchange called btcquick.com?
	I was like, sure.
	Like, you want to pay with Bitcoin?
	They're like, okay.
	Like, how much?
	Like, half a Bitcoin.
	I was like, okay.
	Done.
	So, first Bitcoin I ever got was not...
	It was not purchased.
	It was not mined.
	It was actually earned by selling a good.
	So I like that story.
	And then after that, I never looked back and we ended up putting a Bitcoin ATM in the restaurant.
	I got a phone call one day from one of my old friends who happened to be the main staffer for...
	The head of the BTC Committee, the Banking, Trade and Commerce Committee.
	And they were doing a whole study into Bitcoin.
	And they heard that we had this ATM.
	They wanted to do a field trip to the restaurant to understand how it worked.
	And I said, well, you know what?
	Sure, that's fine.
	But I could also bring the ATM to the floor of the Senate if you like.
	They're like, no way.
	I was like, yeah, absolutely.
	So we did that and we taught.
	They've been studying it for seven months, but I've never seen a transaction or actually cared to understand how the network worked.
	And I akin Bitcoin to email.
	It's like, I can try and explain to you all day, Viva, how email works and how the protocol level works.
	But until you actually send and receive an email, you don't really get it.
	So that was the same with these senators.
	So we just showed them how it worked and had them buy $50 worth of Bitcoin at $400 a coin.
	That kind of kicked off that.
	Then ran the Blockchain Association of Canada, which was the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada as well.
	And we did that for five years.
	And yeah, so I've been looking at the intersection of this technology and society and governance structures.
	It's not just that you could explain it to me all day and I'll still not get it.
	I've had multiple people do that.
	Then I've played with it.
	And all that I understood from Bitcoin is you buy at 50,000 and you sell at 35,000 and you lose 30% right off the bat.
	But I still don't understand Bitcoin to the extent that it has to be at the end of the line converted to fiat currency.
	Why?
	Because, I mean, if it isn't...
	You're dealing in, I don't understand the finite nature of it and how it's going to retain value or continually be incrementalized down to, I don't know, to what.
	And then why does it have to be converted to fiat?
	It's got to be exchanged at some point.
	And if it's not converted into fiat currency, it'll be that for barter, which I can sort of understand.
	But then what do you do with Bitcoin, which is just digital currency that doesn't exist anywhere, but for the places that take it?
	I'll stop with that question there.
	What do you do with it unless you're at a place that takes it?
	So what you said, one of the things that a lot of people have done with Bitcoin is they've just treated it as a number-go-up thing and make money on it, which unfortunately is not really the great potential of Bitcoin.
	You know, potential as Satoshi kind of envisioned was a peer-to-peer electronic cash system.
	And it's a way that we can exchange value between two parties anywhere in the world.
	And we solve the digital problem, which was this double spend problem.
	How do you have a digital thing that you can't spend twice?
	And that's what the blockchain, you know, the technology and the ledger kind of, you know, made happen.
	Bitcoin has its own monetary policy.
	There's only ever going to be 21 million Bitcoin.
	We're at like, you know, probably getting close to 20 million, 19 some odd million right now.
	So most of it's coming to supply.
	And the process in which it is issued is, you know, it's through this process called mining, which is computers basically competing to solve a problem.
	It's fairly basic, but it's a very complicated program or very complicated problem now.
	What is the problem?
	I don't understand the words that are coming out of your mouth.
	It's a math problem.
	It's like trying to hack a password.
	It's like, you need to...
	To try and guess so many times at an answer.
	And all you get back is like a no to each question you ask.
	It's like no.
	Just like putting in a password.
	If you try to guess a password, imagine in the beginning it was kind of a simple one.
	You could guess it.
	Get it right.
	But today, it's like trying to hack a 40-character alphanumeric password.
	So there's this whole network of computers throwing answers at it, and it's easy to say no, and it's very difficult to find the right answer.
	But once you get the right answer, it's like, oh yeah, that's the answer.
	Great.
	And then when you get the answer, if you're a computer, if you're the miner...
	And I'll just kind of like, you know, create this example.
	You basically yell to everybody, I solved the problem.
	Here's the problem.
	And I solved it.
	And everybody looks at you, looks at it, and it's very difficult to solve the problem.
	It's very easy to verify it.
	And they all look at you.
	He solved the problem.
	Great.
	Next question.
	And then it goes on to the next question.
	And the person who solved the problem gets rewarded with the new Bitcoin.
	In the beginning, it was 50 Bitcoin.
	Then it was 25. Then it's 12.5.
	Next year, it goes to 6.25.
	So the inflation rate keeps halving.
	This is a longer conversation, but this is the bare principles of it.
	But the key thing about Bitcoin, all that aside, is that anybody in the world doesn't need permission to open a wallet, to create an account, and to be able to receive money.
	And you don't need permission from anybody to send money to another address.
	That's it.
	And once you send it to somebody, there's nothing you can do to take it back.
	So unlike the banking system that has the ability to pull back money, do a chargeback in the world of credit, or you can do a chargeback even on a wire transfer or something like that, that's it.
	Or a bank to say, as we've seen, you know what?
	Yeah, you don't have access to your money anymore.
	Bitcoin basically solved the cash.
	Like, you know, here's a dollar.
	If I give you this dollar, you have the dollar.
	And there's nothing I can do.
	I can't call anybody to say, give me back that dollar.
	If you want to give it back to me, you can.
	But we created a virtual wave.
	I can't give you this dollar right now.
	There's no way to magically push it through the screen and it comes out on your side.
	But with Bitcoin, if I just have your address, I can send you $1 or a piece of $1.
	Yeah, and it's open and inclusive and it's open source and it's verifiable.
	And it also has this ability that unlike the US dollar, the Canadian dollar, there is an essential bank that can...
	Create new dollars out of thin air, therefore making everybody else's dollars less valuable.
	So there's an infinite supply curve on the fiat currency, on the US dollar and Canadian dollar and euro and yen, etc.
	But with Bitcoin, there's a max supply.
	There's a finite amount.
	And so that's the basics of it.
	I never asked you, did you study in university?
	What did you study?
	I studied business with a focus on entrepreneurship.
	And then on the art side, I did philosophy.
	And then in my fourth year...
	I was able to register just by happenstance for some law school classes because they looked fun when I was picking my class.
	I was like, oh, Internet Media Law and had like a big number next to it.
	I was like, let me see if I can just register for that.
	And I got into it.
	So I ended up participating in some law school for one semester.
	They tried to kick me out because you can't be here.
	And I talked to the professor and he's like, no, no, he can be here.
	This is fun.
	So yeah, there's kind of a nice...
	You know, mix as well as some economics.
	And then I've also worked a lot of, like, you know, over the years, I've worked a lot of different jobs from, you know, from landscaping to construction to working at a golf course to working in the restaurants to working in tech, designing apps, doing marketing, associations.
	Well, we're going to have to understand how you got into the RFK campaign in a bit.
	You're living in Canada until when?
	Basically, 2020 was like, you know, I was back and forth between Canada.
	I met my wife, Brittany, in Mexico, and then she was living in California.
	And then in 2019, our son, Sequoia, was born.
	In 2018, we got pregnant.
	And then I was between 2019 and 2020, I was back and forth a lot.
	And then...
	Once the great pandemic took place, I was like, I can't travel back and forth between Canada.
	It's too dangerous.
	It could get isolated or separated.
	And so I think, like many of us, it was a chance to...
	Take stock of, you know, what's important in our lives and ground down.
	And so, you know, that's what we did in California and I was living there.
	And then, you know, it wasn't until 21 that I, you know, made the declaration that, okay, I'm going to get U.S. permanent residents because, you know, every time coming back in the States was always kind of like a little bit of a roll of the dice.
	So, yeah, I know I've taken this approach.
	I've always had a great love for the United States.
	California was a big part of the last decade and a half for me.
	And I just loved the creative, entrepreneurial attitude of California.
	Whereas growing up in Ottawa...
	Ottawa is kind of like, you know, a conservative town.
	As an entrepreneur, a creative, there's a lot of people shooting down your ideas all the time as opposed to like saying yes to things.
	It's like, no, you can't do this for X, Y, Z reasons.
	And it's always like, no, no.
	But when I found I traveled out to these other places and was around other creatives and builders, that there was a really supportive ecosystem.
	It was like, yeah, let's do this.
	Yes, we can do this.
	And yeah, there's going to be challenges, but this yes, we can attitude.
	And I think that's what America has going for it really strongly.
	It's like Ottawa is a government town to begin with.
	And people who tend to work for the government tend to not be able to see the...
	The value in the Wild West and entrepreneurship, and it's like, yeah, tell me what to do and work for the government, and why would you have a crazy idea like that?
	Yeah.
	And then I feel like Ottawa is also under a satanic spell, too.
	There's no question about it.
	Look, I thought I'd say a satanic spell, it's under, I mean, I just call it, it's under the government.
	Pull up the logo.
	Pull up the logo.
	Yeah, let's look at the logo of Ottawa real quick.
	Hold on.
	Ottawa's got a logo?
	Hold on.
	Ottawa logo.
	Is it the 6-6?
	It looks like...
	Okay, let me see here.
	Ottawa logo.
	Which one is it?
	It's this thing right here?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so now tell me what...
	I'm going to move this here.
	Can I bring this up?
	Just look at the O. What is that?
	It looks like a 6 with three green lines on it.
	So I'm thinking 6-6-6 backwards?
	Right there.
	It's just 6-6-6.
	It's just in plain sight.
	You should look at the City Hall too.
	They've got at the door to City Hall, there's four doors and they only have three.
	They have three of these logos right next to each other.
	See, the thing is, though, I've seen people do the thing with the liberal one where they take the liberal when it's only the L, and you put four of them together, and you can make a swastika out of anything.
	Right, right, right.
	But again, it's these in plain sight ones.
	And I swear that logo is everywhere, and once you see it as the sixes, it's all...
	Well, it also makes no sense.
	What the hell is the purpose of the three green lines on the O to begin with?
	What does it represent?
	Yeah, and it feels like, you know, anyways, there's just a shadow over Ottawa.
	And I think, you know, one of the things that we can do to reverse that is change the logo.
	Start right there.
	So you decide to come out, say, come out politically, come out vocally.
	It's 2021-ish.
	When was the interview with Ive?
	What's his name now?
	With John Iveson was in, I think, May of 2020.
	Okay, so early on into the pandemic, as we commonly refer to it as, what was your relationship like with family members, your mom, your brother, up until that point?
	Well, I mean, everybody was scared.
	Everyone was scared of that.
	But before that, I mean, look, I've been doing the Bitcoin stuff, and I've been like, ooh, and plus the 9-11 stuff.
	Like, oh, you're like a conspiracy theorist.
	And then it was like, Oh, you know, he supports Trump.
	And I was like, how do you guys just put people into such buckets and try to just take all the magic away from somebody by just putting them saying, well, he's Trump.
	And it's like, you know, this idea of just like, you know, you can buy through association.
	Everything that someone does is...
	It doesn't matter anymore.
	Or it's like, you know, you're justified in not listening to them.
	And I feel like that happened with Max Bernier, too.
	Like, I remember telling my mom at one point, I was like, I could really just say it, because she got pretty programmed up.
	And I was like, Max Bernier, Nazi!
	Like, it's just...
	Like, the reaction, Pierre Poliev, snake!
	And it's just like, you know, the deep programming that has taken place of so many people into these, you know, these tribal identities.
	And, you know, I think that's one of the greatest things that we have.
	That's one of the biggest challenges that we have in front of us is, you know, healing the divide.
	And we're like...
	You know, establishing, like, you know, healing the divides between our families, within our friends, within our social structures, within our communities, because we've been like, you know, they just keep putting this wedge in always and smashing the hammer on it, driving it apart.
	There's no, look, it's not even just Canadian politics faults.
	I mean, it started with Trump, but I mean, I remember it now, Nutanus, Nutanus, since Bush.
	Bush too.
	People forget he's praised today, but he was called a Nazi, a Hitler, a racist, all the stuff back in the day.
	It divided families, but nowhere near as much as today.
	But Kyle, if I'm understanding, there has been political tension, ideological tension between you and Mum and Justin since going back to 2015-ish, now give or take.
	Oh, yeah.
	Even a little bit before, too.
	Like, you know, obviously, you know, the 9-11 stuff was like, I'm like, guys, we got real questions here.
	It's like the central bankers, like, you know, let's understand, like, you know, the real problems here.
	But, yeah, and Justin was like, you know, he was on a different path and, you know, had all sorts of people around him supporting his quest for the lead corporate spokesman role.
	I've always had, like, you know, you hear Rogan talk about the presidential stuff, like when someone becomes president, someone sits them down in a room and they say, you know, you're not in charge, and understand that, and now, you know, say what you're told to say, basically.
	You've lived in this family.
	Some people think, like, you know, or would like to imagine there's something formal like that.
	Did you ever have any inkling, any sort of direct experience with people sitting people down and saying, this is how it's going to work?
	Or is it just like, An organic machine that knows to do it and the players know what they need to do when they need to do it.
	I mean, I can't say that I ever experienced the latter, where there was a clear, like, this is the way.
	Now, I can't speak for Justin, and I would assume that amongst your administration, your office, and with your shareholders and the board, if you will, that there are certain...
	Dictates and lines and clear things.
	And again, also, I feel like Dustin has got a large book of, you know, here's our basic kind of policy stances and here's your...
	I don't want to call it a script.
	That might be a little bit too demeaning, but here's your...
	Let's call this a giant game of improv, and here's your improv Bible to play your lines from.
	Talking points.
	Talking points.
	It'll be more and more diplomatic than script.
	Exactly.
	The talking points.
	But we've seen it now.
	And this is what's challenging about this current reality is...
	You know, we've both seen this so strongly that there's no open discussion about anything anymore.
	It's all, like, really canned and really scripted.
	And, you know, we're just, and that was one of the things that, you know, during the trucker movement, wanted to, like, there were so many people coming together saying, look, we've got doctors, nurses.
	First responders.
	We want to have qualified discussion around some of these basic tenets that you keep spouting, like religion, that are guiding all these policy decisions.
	But this comes back to 9-11, around myths.
	When you've got a big myth in play, you cannot debate it or discuss it.
	You can't.
	All of a sudden, one question gets asked and the house of cards starts coming over.
	Instead of actually engaging with it, you have to enrage against it.
	You have to attack.
	You have to smear.
	You have to make it appear that these people are so vile that you can't even listen to them.
	And, you know, that's what we saw.
	They had no choice.
	From my opinion, there's no option for the government to engage with the people.
	And fortunately, they chose to enrage, and in my opinion, they staged that BS Nazi photo, you know, and then used that as their provocation.
	Provocation.
	That provocation to then, like, you know, Go into this whole Nazi agenda, which is like, you know, one of the most powerful projections of all time because these guys are projecting that everybody else are the Nazis.
	Guess what, folks?
	Look in the friggin' mirror.
	I mean, the punchline to the joke that they gave a standing ovation to an actual Nazi in the parliament, I mean, you can't punctuate the confession through projection any better than that.
	I know, and even that, I kind of feel bad for that guy, because it's like if my grandfather was there, 102 years old, and they were like, you know, this was just another one of these, like...
	You know, showy things.
	But again, yes.
	And it's like, you know, look what we're doing.
	Honestly, they call everybody else Nazis, yet all this whole bullshit in Ukraine, it just never ends.
	And also, okay.
	But I'll give you and your grandfather a bit, not a benefit of the doubt, but there is a distinction.
	Once upon a time, I had a German girlfriend, like German, this is, I was 18. And German like German.
	I was going to say her name.
	That would have been terrible.
	And her grandfather was a German soldier.
	And there was a distinction between, even back then, you know, Germans that were either conscripted or fighting in the army versus SS, you know, secret police Gestapo.
	There was a distinction even morally and ethically back in the day.
	Not to say that they're still fighting for the axis of evil and they're still, you know, fighting on the side of the Nazis.
	Where was it?
	Galicia.
	Versus being an 18-year-old German soldier that was conscripted to the army and is fighting in a war that he or she had no interest in fighting with in the first place.
	Not to say that there are...
	I'll get in trouble, but there are worse levels of being a Nazi than being a German soldier.
	And so your grandfather who fought is...
	You can distinguish that between being SS and then calling the SS guy in, giving him a standing ovation as if nobody knew.
	The history, the individual, as if Zelensky himself didn't know it.
	And if they didn't know it, it shows what idiots they are in the first place.
	It's just, it's like so ridiculous that we even have like Zelensky in parliament and with his whole dog and pony show.
	Bah!
	It's crazy.
	And then to do that, it's just like, it's...
	It's so ridiculous.
	It has gone so far away from the purpose of government.
	That's why after the trucker thing was like, oh my gosh, you bring a million people together in Ottawa for 21 days in the middle of winter, and they basically have Burning Man, but it's freezing, so freezing man going on.
	Late night dance parties, super safe, so much gifting, so much sharing, decommodification, a sense of immediacy, radical self-reliance, radical inclusion.
	All the principles were on full display there.
	And it was beautiful and incredible.
	But that, like, what more can you, what more do you want?
	Like, how big do you have to go in order to, like, affect change through, like, you know, a civic engagement model or protest?
	And so, like, if that, if the end result was, we're going to declare the War Measures Act, rebranded the Emergency Act, to be able to shut down your bank accounts and, like, suspend...
	Your licenses and, like, go after the people who are making small donations to it.
	It's like, that is, that is, that was the remedy.
	That was the output of all this civic engagement was they actually ratchet it up.
	Like, give me a break.
	We've got a problem here.
	No, and what's ultimately, it's beyond discouraging, it was blackpilling about it, is that they teach you that...
	Peaceful, you know, non-compliance, peaceful protest is the way.
	And then when they criminalize you for peaceful protest, where's the incentive not to go to violent protest?
	If they treat you like the violent criminal anyhow, they disincentivize law-abiding protest to begin with.
	Set aside the hypocrisy that Jagmeet Singh, that scumbag.
	I mean, we talked a lot about Justin, but Jagmeet is, I think, maybe even worse.
	You know, he gets up on Parliament Hill with the labor unions and protests their rights.
	Palestinian-Israeli conflict, you have the pro-Palestinian side blocking bridges, blocking critical infrastructure.
	There's no discussion about freezing bank accounts, declaring the war.
	Black Lives Matter, let's go take a kneel altogether.
	During COVID.
	During COVID.
	Then they arrest Maxime Bernier for having 36 people in an outdoor political event in, where was it, Alberta.
	But it's the risk and it's the danger.
	I mean, I guess it was a JFK who said, would you make peaceful protest?
	Impossible.
	You make violent revolution inevitable.
	Was it him that said that?
	Whoever said that.
	Somebody said that.
	Smart stuff.
	Sounds like a good line.
	It's a good line because people want to be peaceful.
	They want to be law-abiding, even in their protests.
	And you treat them like criminals.
	Well, I mean, that disincentivizes, or at least it eliminates the reluctance people might have had to be violent in the first place.
	Don't be violent because you just give them what they want.
	But my goodness, they take what they want if they don't get it.
	So you see this protest.
	You see what's going on in Canada happening.
	I won't...
	You didn't make it up.
	Not everybody was traveling.
	But thankfully, there was a man.
	There was a man.
	Hold on, my ears are burning.
	There was a man out there in the streets who was walking around, talking to everybody, like just stream of consciousness.
	This man can talk.
	He never stops talking.
	He just keeps going.
	You sound like my mother now, Kyle.
	All day long.
	And he shared and broadcast out there to the world.
	And fortunately, he told this other story that wasn't being told and got to actually show the reality through primary footage and direct engagement of what was really going on there.
	And so thank you, Viva, for everything you've done.
	It was crazy the way I even got there accidentally because people were accusing me of being like, I don't know, controlled opposition, whatever.
	Why aren't you talking about the protests in Ottawa?
	I'm like, what protests?
	Like, what convoy?
	And I Google it and I was like, oh, the convoy from...
	I don't know, what was it, Whistler to Vancouver about road conditions?
	I'm like, no, the Cross Canada Convoy.
	I was like, oh, they're not talking about it.
	Oh, now they're talking about it.
	And then, you know, then I hear the Nazi flag, the Confederate flag.
	I'm like, why the hell would there be a Confederate flag at a Canadian protest?
	These idiots don't even think about it.
	And then I went down and it just, it was amazing.
	It had international attention.
	It had international admiration, which is what I think upsets.
	Every tyrant is being mocked at the international level.
	I mean, remember what Musk did?
	Canadian truckers rule, and then he also did that Trudeau-Nazi post for a hot minute.
	The people who got emotionally involved and who got interested, everybody, the bannons of the world, everyone in America was interested in it.
	Europe was blown away by it.
	It created basically an international movement.
	And then they come in with their bloody stormtroopers.
	They're armed.
	It's not military, but it's militarized police and beat the shit out of them.
	I don't know how much more emblematic of tyranny you can get than the government beating up veterans.
	I don't know how much worse it can get.
	Yeah, well, it's like, and I feel like, and I feel like even like the horse trailing, like that was such by design.
	Like they were like, they, that was intent.
	Like that move right there.
	Was intended to, like, create that type of outcome.
	It's like, oh, we got an old lady, folks!
	Like, good one!
	An 81-year-old Aboriginal woman.
	I mean, that's the irony.
	The man who accused everyone of being...
	And that was, like, a celebrated thing probably internally because, like, they're looking for those shock and awe stories because they don't want, in the annals of history, it doesn't want to be about...
	Dance parties, fireworks, saunas, hot tubs, and bouncy castles, and massive gifting, and radical inclusion, and self-expression, and communal effort, and civic engagement.
	Don't wonder about that.
	You want these images of, oh, the horse trampling, or oh, do you see that guy just get beat up?
	Ultimately, the club was getting closed, and it was time to go.
	And it was a pretty rough security team that came in.
	They want to send a message.
	Even if you're an old lady, you won't be safe there.
	Even if you're a veteran, you won't be safe there.
	So don't come.
	Don't be there.
	Yeah, and same with them hacking, you know, give, send, go.
	And it's like, oh.
	Giving money to these things is not safe either now.
	And oh, yeah, we've identified and we've leaked it to the media and now staffers are getting called out and fired and people are resigning because they contributed towards a peaceful protest?
	I mean, come.
	Come on.
	This is the party.
	This is this 1984 situation that we've got going on.
	And this is where Canada now has become of the corporation, by the corporation, for the corporation, or of the party, by the party, for the party.
	It is no longer about the people.
	The people have zero, zero ability to be involved.
	It is not a democracy.
	To call it a democracy is not a democracy.
	Jagmeet and Justin formed a deal together to guarantee themselves no elections and no power by creating this de facto majority government until 2025, basically assuring they can just have free reign, do whatever the hell they want, and there's no accountability.
	If it wasn't one party that had a majority, there would be more accountability.
	But because it's two parties, it is...
	It is just, it is just, it is, it is cloistered.
	I mean, they could, they could honestly just pro-road government for the next two years and just like not have it because all the decisions are being made in the background.
	And, you know, we have a crisis now as Canadians and, and, and, and there's other democracies around the world that we don't have the ability to participate in our government's governance process.
	And that's what I saw really clear out of, out of the Ottawa by the end of it was like, this isn't working.
	Like this isn't working.
	Like we can't.
	Just doing that again isn't going to solve it.
	Doing it three times larger isn't going to solve it.
	We need to get to the root cause of this, which is people have no voice and they have no ability to express themselves.
	You do it once.
	It doesn't do anything.
	Do it twice.
	It won't change anything.
	Do it more violent.
	That'll change something.
	That'll give them the power and the justification to come in with the full police state.
	Let me ask you this.
	It's a simple question, but quite heavy.
	Are you scared of your brother at all in any way?
	No.
	And I say that, like, not politically, but...
	I'm scared for him.
	Like, I feel, I feel, I'm like, I pray for Justin, and I pray for, like, and I hope that, like, you know, I hope that he has his, like, you know, come to Jesus moment, if you will.
	And, like, honestly, it's, like, I'll come back, get to this at one point, but it's time for...
	Some healing, folks.
	And I saw that guy.
	Was it George Galloway?
	It was one of the COVID media promoters in the States.
	He was on one of the late-night shows, and he was saying, yeah, we made a lot of bad things.
	Everyone should just forgive us.
	There was an expectation of forgiveness for their ridiculous actions.
	You can't expect forgiveness.
	You have to ask for forgiveness.
	And before you can ask for forgiveness, you have to apologize and take responsibility for your actions.
	That's what Justin...
	Justin, that's what you have to do.
	You have to take responsibility for your actions.
	You have to apologize.
	Explain what took place.
	Blow the whistle if you must.
	But like, you know, this path that you're on...
	It's like the deeper, the more you lie, the deeper the hole gets.
	And it's like the darker your soul gets.
	Deeper the hole gets, the darker your soul gets.
	So, you know, as a world bridger, there's this opportunity to help move us forward.
	But you gotta apologize, ask forgiveness, and like, you know, and blow the whistle on this.
	It's something that I, it's not that I struggle with it.
	I can forgive some.
	I can forgive and forget for others, and I can forgive and never forget for some, and then I think there are some that I will never forgive.
	And then the only question is, harboring hatred?
	Okay, not good for the soul, but I can never forgive but forget.
	But they can never be in a position to do anything of power, of significance at any meaningful scale ever again.
	Jacinda Ardem, not just to focus on Trudeau, not just to focus on Jagmeet, not just to focus on, I can't think of the really bad ones there, the guy in, what was his Australia?
	Dictator Dan.
	They can never be forgiven.
	I don't think at this point they can be forgiven.
	And there is a point at which you can no longer be forgiven.
	So what is the act after that point?
	I appreciate that it's nice to focus on forgiveness and it makes the forgiver free of hatred.
	But you would admit at some point there's no longer any forgiveness.
	There's no longer any apology that can be issued.
	No, there's something called justice too.
	Law and order.
	Especially with the ongoing genocide that is taking place with these fake vaccines.
	There's blood on the hands.
	They're pushing it.
	I get angry that they're pushing it on six months and up.
	Statistics be damned, they've been lying to us over and over again.
	Yes, I like what you say.
	At some point, apologies, you're at the next, what was it, the Hegelian or the Heideggerian?
	You're at the next ladder step.
	You kicked off the ladder.
	No more apology, justice.
	How does that come about?
	Well, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of independent work.
	Like, what's the Canadian...
	Oh, the NIC?
	There's so much documentation.
	There's so much information out there.
	It actually comes down to at what point is there, in police terms, RPG, like Reasonable Probable Grounds for Arrest, to arrest some of the criminals that have been breaking the laws.
	And then also, as we move forward, yeah, there should be some friggin' penalties.
	And look at the money, folks.
	Look at the money.
	That's where, like...
	By the way, it was the NCI, the National Citizens Inquiry, just so we don't mis-acronym it.
	Look at the money, Kyle.
	There's a number of rumors going around on the internet about a number of things, one of which is financial interests that certain members of government have.
	In pharma companies that have some role to play in this?
	Any knowledge, independent or otherwise, of members of our parliament with direct or indirect interests in the very same pharma companies that are pushing this crap?
	Well, I will say all members of government are financially incentivized because all of our sovereign wealth funds And pension plans are all heavily invested in it.
	So Canada is invested in big pharma, in big war, in the big corporatocracy.
	Are they all even totally aware of that?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	But the fact is, the large funds are all BlackRock.
	Canada is a shareholder in BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street.
	At that level.
	Now, individually, are they shareholders?
	Yeah, probably.
	Do I have any concrete proof?
	No, I don't.
	But go if you want.
	Go talk to the friggin' auditors about that.
	Like, you know, there's got to be, you know, transparency statements on behalf of, you know, sitting officials and non-elected officials around it.
	And I think there's, you know, there's all sorts of conflict and there's all sorts of backroom deals that are taking place.
	I mean, I'll say personally, when the whole scam was beginning, my phone was...
	Blowing up with people thinking that I was some sort of access point towards government spending.
	It's like, oh yeah, I'll get you tests.
	Test, test, test, test, test.
	You'll make 25 cents on the dollar on these tests.
	It's like, dude, no way.
	Like, no way.
	I'm not touching any of that.
	And then it was masks.
	And then it was like vaccines.
	And then there were also people...
	Let me make sure I understand that.
	Because people know that you're Trudeau's brother, they think you are something of an access point to get into the government, you're getting calls from these entrepreneurs who are saying, hey, I can get you tests, and if you give me the contract, you'll get X amount of every test.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And trust me, I'm not alone.
	But I was of the opinion to say, no effing way.
	Not interested.
	Why are you doing this?
	Challenging good people.
	Why are you doing this?
	I get there's this crisis, but do you not profit off this or take a profiteering approach off this?
	Terrible.
	Terrible behavior.
	So many good projects got sidelined because people started seeing the COVID dollars.
	Anyways, but yes.
	No, the rationale is that if they don't do it, someone else will.
	They're not killing anybody.
	So, hey.
	Capitalism.
	Exactly.
	And that's when it's like, oh, yeah, there's going to be a vaccine at the end of this thing.
	We should invest in Pfizer and all these other little biotech pharma companies.
	Because they're going to boost.
	Even if I am completely against the idea of rushed fake vaccines coming to market, we have to...
	I can make some money on this, so why don't I support it?
	And just so nobody accuses me of being a communist, I have nothing against capitalism.
	What I'm saying, capitalism in that sense, is much more the political corruption side of it, where you have insiders with insider knowledge striking up deals with their connected buddies and friends, and that's how they get the contracts, that's how they make the money, and that's how they know to sell all their stocks the day before they announce a shutdown and other stuff.
	Or sell all your airline stocks on September 10th.
	Dude, we could, okay, we could, one day maybe we'll do like this, a deep dive into that.
	I remember living through it, not being politically conscious at the time.
	And I remember hearing the Rosie O'Donnells at the time saying, buildings don't just come down like that.
	And they went after Rosie O'Donnell.
	Oh, they went after her so hard.
	No, and that again is just one of those ones that it's like, you know.
	We just don't really kind of touch.
	But it's so important.
	I don't feel like we can properly course-correct moving forward until we have some understanding of that.
	Because, guess what?
	Another 9-11 just happened.
	Are we talking Middle East now?
	10-7.
	I don't even want to open up or go into this, but it's another...
	Blood sacrifice is terrible.
	It's horrible.
	And it meant to divide and enrage and get those military and get more bombs bending.
	It's like, how many times, folks?
	Well, I mean, they still haven't.
	Definitely resolved or addressed or accounted for the JFK assassination.
	And I'm friends with, you know, a lot of guys in the LawTube verse and there's Eric Hundley, this other guy, Mark Robert, who are the experts on this.
	You know, it's like a lot of people feel that's when basically the American people lost control of the government.
	And I don't know when Canadians lost control of their country, but, you know, it's been downhill ever since.
	With a few key examples of cataclysmic disaster that was very, very good for government.
	And we're talking like 60 years ago, like with JFK's assassination.
	Yeah.
	That was like a lot of people, and I've heard that a lot too.
	You know.
	Now let me get...
	Is that a good segue?
	Yes, it is perfect.
	Okay, so how does this work?
	You come to the States, you marry...
	An American?
	Is she American?
	You met her in Mexico, but she's California.
	She's an American.
	We met at an event called Summit Tulum.
	Really amazing.
	Summit Tulum or Summit Tulum?
	Tulum.
	Summit Tulum in Tulum, Mexico.
	Okay.
	I've been to Mexico once, but it was only on a cruise.
	I got off the ship and then I got back on because I realized I live in perpetual fear of the world around me.
	When I saw that it was the officers carrying big assault rifles, didn't speak English, and I had only known of the urban legends or stories of people getting extorted by the police.
	I don't speak Spanish.
	They don't speak English.
	There was a pool and a poker table on the boat, so I just stayed on the boat.
	So you marry an American woman.
	You're in America since 2020.
	How the heck do you get involved in the Kennedy campaign?
	Great question.
	I presume it predates 2020.
	What year are we?
	2023.
	Yeah, well, it was actually 2023.
	So, I mean, obviously, Bobby was like, as the founder and chairman of Children's Health Defense, was speaking out against, you know.
	The jabs and speaking up for vaccine safety and being part of the disinformation dozen or whatever you want to say.
	And showed great integrity over the last couple of years as we were going through this bizarre experiment.
	This February, I think it was, there's a tweet I made where I said...
	After listening to this video, I was like, my goodness, this guy would be the best president ever.
	He's actually qualified for this job and really understands the real workings of the system and the office.
	A lot of people want to be president for their own reasons, but I don't think they really understand the gravitas of the role and the need for an actual strong leader.
	As opposed to a strong actor or a strong spokesperson, which is what we currently have.
	Or in the current case, you have a robot in control.
	And it's elder abuse.
	It's really sad.
	All you need to do is understand the realness of the situation.
	Go to Joe Biden's merch site and buy the mug and you'll see.
	They're not even hiding it.
	He's a freaking robot.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Joe Biden.
	No, no.
	I get ads for that stupid-ass mug on my YouTube channel.
	It says, buy the mug.
	I'll be nice, but he won't.
	And then he fills up his mug at his eye.
	I mean, it's the laser eyes thing.
	It's the laser eyes.
	And I was talking with Bobby Kennedy III, Jr.'s son, the other night, and we're talking about how difficult it is The eyes.
	So this is...
	Yeah, I know.
	It's preposterous!
	It's so ridiculous.
	It's so...
	The dark roast mug.
	Click on the original.
	It's just so ridiculous.
	And this is actually really telling.
	This one was kind of a big unlock.
	Because first off, if you go down, it's like, you know, there's this ridiculous video of I like my coffee dark.
	But the laser eyes too was really popularized by the weekend's halftime performance spell at the Super Bowl a number of years ago.
	And then it was also leveraged within the Bitcoin community.
	That kind of like irked me a little bit because this whole laser eye kind of robot like possessed imagery.
	But for him to be having that merch is one thing.
	Anyways, I digress.
	That site's really interesting.
	You can learn a lot just from reading the fine print of Joe Biden's merch site.
	I've got a lot of things to add to the list for this afternoon.
	Specifically around campaign donations.
	With Joe Biden, it's clear that you can donate up to $700,000 as an individual, but as an individual for Bobby, you have a limit of $6,600.
	Biden has worked with his...
	He's got...
	He's got his own little victory fund campaign.
	And then he's got the DNC as fully backing him.
	And then he's got super PACs.
	So it's like, you could literally go buy a million of those mugs.
	And all that money will flow into...
	There's no limit.
	And now you remind me, I just saw another tweet from No Lie with Brian Taylor Cohen, No Lie with BTC.
	Biden's got more than twice as much money in the bank as Trump.
	Because one is fighting lawfare from a weaponized DOJ, and the other one is selling frickin' mugs, and you can buy as many as you want and launder money through the campaign.
	Other than that, too.
	BLM was all going through ActBlue, too.
	Hold on, you glitched out there for a second.
	What did you just say?
	BLM, all the funds for BLM were channeled through ActBlue.
	So that was all going to the DNC.
	Nothing to do with...
	Black Lives Mattering.
	It was fundraising for the Democratic Party.
	Okay, so you put up...
	You put out a tweet and it grabs the attention of RFK or team?
	I just put out that tweet and that was kind of a prophetic tweet.
	And then I'm participating in the Independent National Convention in Austin in April or May.
	And that's when I was there where there was a convergence of all sorts of independent thinkers, new governance thinkers.
	A lot of crypto people, a lot of spiritual people, like just really awesome people all kind of coming together.
	And it was there, the Saturday night of that, when Bobby announced, he didn't announce there, he announced somewhere else, but he declared his intention to run for president.
	And at that point, I was like, okay.
	And the next day, I was leaving at the airport, and I made this meme that said, that wasn't really a meme, it was a GIF.
	Or a GIF, we're going to call it.
	And it was Make Earth Great Again.
	It was flashing between blue and red.
	Make Earth Great Again.
	Mega 2024.
	And it made this little fun thing.
	And then I just had it.
	And then I was giving a talk at UCLA to their entrepreneurial school.
	And I stepped outside for a tobacco on campus.
	Forgive me, UCLA.
	But somebody came outside, lit up a cigar.
	I was like, dude, awesome.
	And I showed him this meme.
	He was like, oh, this is great.
	Let me send this to Bobby.
	So we sent it to Bobby 3, who's RFK's son.
	And then, yeah, we connected.
	And I was like, hey, I'm here for, like, you know, I'm leaving tomorrow, but you want to meet up tonight?
	And I went and met up with him.
	And we vibrate on the same level.
	And he's an amazing creative artist, thinker.
	And he's like, all in for dad.
	I was like, man, I'm all in for dad too.
	Let's go.
	This is it.
	And then Bobby ended up speaking at the Bitcoin conference in Miami, at which point I have my bus that was the Blockchain Across America RV.
	I got it during...
	During COVID or during the thing as a way to avoid using airplanes.
	So I just drove my family all across America in the middle of this, you know, non-deadly pandemic.
	And anyway, so I took the RV to Miami, and then we ended up painting murals on it.
	I had a big mural of Bobby Kennedy done on one side, big logo on the other side.
	I had a whole bunch of hats made, and I was just exploring and just testing it, seeing what the residence is like.
	I had like 100 hats made.
	I didn't sell.
	I wasn't selling them.
	I was just holding them, and people were coming up nonstop.
	Can I get one?
	And this...
	I was like, okay, this is a little bit of a biased crowd because of the Bitcoin crew.
	Let me see how this works with the rest of it.
	And we drove all the way up the coast in May and stopped all over the place.
	And again, it was like so many people were coming up.
	I was in Myrtle Beach.
	Someone smashed on my door.
	I opened the door.
	I was like, what's going on, man?
	He's like, hey, man, I just want to let you know I'm a Republican.
	He's like, awesome.
	That's great.
	You're an American too, and you're a human.
	And I really like RFK.
	I really like him.
	I will vote for him over DeSantis, but not Trump.
	I was like, okay, great.
	But just seeing this resonance all across the map.
	And then I ended up driving all the way to...
	My goal was to get to Kennedy Country, up to Cape Cod for...
	Before 4th of July.
	And so we made it to Cape Cod.
	I pulled in the night before into this town called Chatham, Massachusetts that has one of the nation's longest running parades.
	And there was one of the local organizers had organized, you know, the Kennedy group to...
	They were hoping to be in the parade, but I just parked for the night where they were in the morning.
	I woke up and there were like these seven awesome supporters.
	They tell me, yeah, we didn't register in time.
	We didn't get in the parade properly.
	I was like, hop in the bus.
	Like, let's go.
	And I hop in the bus and I just drove down to the very front of the parade line.
	And the police were like, no, no, you got to go this way to get in the parade line.
	I was like, okay, great.
	And so I just hopped in the parade and we hacked the parade and I put a giant speaker on top of the bus.
	If you want to pull up a thing, it's the Kennedy 24 bus on Instagram.
	Well, I'm going to do that in a second.
	What I just pulled up now is this.
	I was looking for the bus.
	It says Justin Trudeau's brother.
	Justin Ling.
	You know that guy, right?
	I think I know him from Twitter.
	I'm going to see in a second.
	He's one of the shameless propagandists.
	Listen to this.
	Why is he there?
	Hold on.
	Where is the paragraph?
	Behind the wheel!
	Behind the wheel with his wife and two children by his side was and is Kyle Kemper, an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist and activist in his own right and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's half-brother.
	Who is Justin Ling?
	Oh, man.
	He was one of the front-line propagandists during the whole thing, but especially on the ground during the convoy.
	Justin Ling.
	Let me see if I follow him or if I'm blocked by him on Twitter.
	Justin Ling has left.
	Is this it?
	Yeah.
	Anyways, then I like, you know, I swear, man, I tried to get that guy on.
	Like, again, with these propagandists, these prostitutes, like, I always, like, I ask them, like, can we just talk?
	Can we talk?
	You want to jump on the live stream?
	I'm not comfortable just doing a phone interview with you where you pick and mince my words.
	Let's talk.
	Let's discuss these things.
	You said some pretty inflammatory things.
	No, no.
	They just write these little hit pieces.
	It's pathological.
	I had W5 come to my house in Montreal because they wanted to write a hit piece on Rumble.
	I didn't appreciate it at the time.
	I know what transpired during that entire conversation to know that what made it into their final piece, they're dishonest to the core and they don't like the sunlight of an open conversation.
	And especially one that is not edited and will not be deleted afterwards.
	Yeah, it's not like the old days of like Trisha Woods and CBC and what was the Fifth Estate?
	I remember that.
	When there was integrity in journalism, like now it's just become this heavily subsidized.
	Party factory.
	Misinformation.
	It's the way that they can just...
	Write you off and not have to address anything you have to say.
	Like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you're the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist.
	Well, Kyle, had I known that, I wouldn't have invited you on, sir.
	Well, I like that.
	They did that with Mickey Willis, too.
	It's like, you know, when he released Pandemic 2 and Pandemic 3, it's like they worked so hard on, like, the internet scrubbing and, like, you know, and positioning the internet so that it was, like, it's not...
	It's not one star.
	It's like zero stars.
	Don't even go a step further.
	It's not worth it.
	Stay away, folks.
	Can you imagine?
	They call you the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist and not...
	Just to compare it to the most obvious person, Justin Trudeau, who at one point said, this is the only way to get back to normal.
	It doesn't have X, Y, and Z problems.
	It's safe and effective.
	It prevents transmission.
	And you're the conspiracy theorist, and you're the anti-vaccine dude, and not...
	The conspiracy theorist, the one who's spread lies for the last three years, him and everybody else.
	Or like the big pharma unofficial spokesperson.
	Pharma can't advertise to children.
	They can't advertise in schools.
	But guess what?
	You've got Justin and other people like him and all these phony health dictators.
	I want to talk to the kids.
	Mom, Dad, can you leave the room?
	Get that back.
	It was the most...
	I'm sorry.
	I feel bad.
	I don't want to have...
	Terrible.
	It's just terrible.
	I forget Elmo talking about it on Sesame Street.
	It's just a joke.
	I want to talk to your kids.
	Will, that makes you quite the pervert.
	Oh, gosh.
	Okay, so you get involved in the campaign, and you've been doing it now since.
	I see there's some people in the Rumble chat who are displeased because they don't like RFK.
	They don't appreciate that RFK, I believe, is more...
	It draws more votes from Biden than from Trump every day of the week.
	Whether or not he has an actual chance of becoming president, his presence in the race is worthwhile and valuable.
	What are you doing for the campaign on a practical day-to-day basis?
	When he declared independence, when he was like, okay, I'm not participating in the...
	And the democratic, you know, sham of democratic and name only party and going to run independent.
	So I took the bus up there, gave a speech at it, working a lot on merch and like getting merch out to people, actively like involved on that.
	And as well as, you know, doing more activations, helping volunteers like come to unlocks, looking at how do we build a guerrilla movement?
	There's lots of different things.
	Like you remember these, all these, Have you ever seen the White Rose?
	I'm sure you have.
	Have you ever seen the White Rose stickers?
	Yes, but show the rest of the people who don't know what you're talking about.
	They come off a thermal printer.
	Thermal printers are super inexpensive.
	They don't use ink.
	They punch out 70 labels a minute.
	I know I have a whole stack of all these right here, but I want to show you some White Rose ones because the White Rose was very influential during the And it was based on actually Nazi resistance back in Nazi Germany of underground press creating information because, you know, we're in World War III.
	As Marshall McLuhan said, World War III is a guerrilla information war with no delineation between civilian and military populations.
	And it feels like we are in...
	That right now.
	So, you know, we need to arm ourselves with different tools.
	Unfortunately, I can't find any of the specific white rose ones.
	Oh, wait, I've got them right here.
	So, like, whoever controls the media controls the mind and all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men and women do nothing.
	These are like examples.
	These were printed out and they're put up all over the world.
	It's like guerrilla warfare.
	With information.
	And it's a telegram group.
	And at one point, I signed up for the telegram group.
	And they're like, do you want stickers?
	I was like, sure, I'll take some stickers.
	I just put in my address.
	And a week later, an envelope like this showed up at my door.
	And I was like, all these stickers.
	And it kind of unlocked that.
	And now I'm looking at, from a perspective with the campaign, how can we use these thermal printers?
	Because the cost is really low.
	Unlike Trump and Biden, they get so many hits, so much media and so much unearned media.
	Kyle, I'm doing a real-time fact-checking or information.
	White Rose Disinformation Group from Wikipedia.
	The White Rose is a group that runs a stickering campaign to distribute disinformation and conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic.
	It's named in appropriation of the anti-Nazi White Rose Group, yada yada yada.
	Stickers distributed by the group include anti-vaccine and anti-mask messages, denials that the COVID pandemic exists, and conspiracy theories about a new world order.
	Oh my gosh.
	Thus far, it sounds like they're more accurate than mainstream media.
	Their tactics have been compared to those of the anti-immigration hundred-handers group.
	Why would it be compared to that?
	The group is organized on a telegram.
	Why would you compare it just to anti-immigrant?
	And that's if I believe that it's actually anti-immigration because all that Wikipedia does is lie.
	This is so clear that this is something.
	Let me see what the sticker says.
	I want to see.
	I'm going to judge.
	The idea that healthy people are endangering others simply by breathing is the biggest scam in the history of the world.
	What's inaccurate about that?
	That's disinformation.
	So healthy people were making people sick, and I'm an idiot for not believing it.
	All right.
	And wearing masks was totally useful, except for the fact that everybody recognizes now that it wasn't, despite what they said for three years.
	Okay.
	Okay, very interesting.
	How has the experience been thus far?
	First presidential campaign being involved with, I presume?
	Yeah, yeah.
	How is it?
	Yeah, it's great.
	I mean, it's like it's, you know, the organization.
	So because it's...
	Because it's independent, it's not part of the Democrat or the Republican thing.
	It's kind of like a fresh slate.
	So there's an opportunity to learn the lessons from Ron Paul, from Obama, from Trump.
	I don't really think you can learn too many lessons from Biden other than like, you know, I don't want to get into it.
	But we've...
	Taking these different lessons and also how do we really inspire?
	I feel like Bobby is like a storm.
	You know, his Mayan dream spell is the blue rhythmic storm is like his archetype.
	And, you know, he's gathering a lot of energy and a lot of talent, a lot of great people together.
	And he's out there speaking openly and truthfully, you know, on so many different issues with this quest towards kind of healing the divide.
	And I think most people in America are fed up and tired of the two-party system.
	And I'd even ask, like, you know, the people in the chat who are saying, you know, not so down with him because he's going to pull votes from Trump.
	It's like...
	Well, what if there's an alternative to...
	The two-party system.
	Because we even recognize that Trump got kind of co-opted by the party and by a lot of the apparatus within.
	So it's time, in my opinion, and based on what happened with the truckers and the whole movement in Canada too, it's time for a new moment, a new independence movement in the United States.
	And I don't see a better person to be able to help catalyze that energy than Bobby Kennedy.
	I mean, goodness.
	We talked about 60 years ago.
	It marked a serious decline in America with the loss of JFK.
	Well, now there's an opportunity for us to redeclare independence from the parties, to say to the parties, thank you, we're grateful for the good, the bad, the ridiculous, but let's choose independence, let's choose a new path forward, and let's just remove the power from them.
	So this is the quest, this is the mission, is to...
	Make people aware that Bobby is running, to listen to his words as opposed to listening to the words and judgments and subjective judgments of others, specifically the mainstream media, and come to their own conclusions.
	And also, instead of complaining about what we don't want, what is the world that we do want?
	What are some of the ideal outcomes that we want to establish?
	And I know for me, it's looking at our own form of Governance, this representative in Canada, the Westminster-style model of governance, it worked really well when we didn't have the telegraph, when we didn't have telephones or internet.
	It made a lot of sense.
	But now that we live in this hyper-connected information age, it's no longer necessary to give one person, based on a geographical region, the voting Representational power of a very diverse group of people to come to Ottawa and then play this politics game.
	Theoretically, they're supposed to be voting on behalf of their constituents, but they don't really even listen to them anymore.
	There's a bit of a breakdown.
	Let's look at new models for this.
	Again, I feel like Bobby is this storm that's catalyzing a lot of energy.
	He actually has, in my opinion, the best chance to become president as an independent.
	Since George Washington.
	Additionally, there's literally two of the weakest candidates.
	With Biden and Trump.
	Trump has been such a...
	I appreciate and have a tremendous amount of respect for him, but he's so divisive.
	And half of America, or maybe not half, but maybe 40% or 3% of America are literally just hearing the word raises their heartbeat a little bit.
	Whether you like it or not...
	Go ahead.
	My problem with that is that may be true, and I'll grant that it is true, but if it's only true as a result of the very same media that has lied about you, less so you because you're Canadian, but has lied about RFK, yeah, he's divisive.
	And if anyone thinks that Bobby Kennedy, if he gets there, is not going to be just as divisive, they'll turn him into the demon.
	So the issue that I have is, yes, it's the dishonest media that has actually mind-fucked a lot of people to the point where they hate, What they fear of Trump more than they hate the actual failure of the current regime.
	He's an activist who promotes anti-vaccine misinformation and public health conspiracy theories.
	The reality is people hate Trump.
	It's the result of indoctrination.
	And so I feel that it's not fair to hold that end result against the object, the victim of it, Trump, as opposed to the society as a whole.
	It should be the big F you to the rest of the society.
	You thought you hate him and you were an idiot for thinking that you hated him.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, and moving forward, it's like, you know, again, I think, I mean, not again, but I personally, having listened to him, I don't agree with him on everything, but I think he is, you know, the most qualified man.
	For the role, for the position.
	And that's why I'm, you know, standing up to support.
	I thought Ron Paul was incredible back in the day as well.
	Like, you know, his stance was specifically around auditing the Fed, ending the Fed, like, you know, removing our forces from foreign engagements.
	And I think, you know, like, you know, even Trump took a lot of Ron Paul's words and learnings from his campaign and utilized them.
	And I think, you know, a lot of things that Bobby was saying are kind of similar.
	Really, it's like, you know, you want to put it on the spectrum.
	It's more of a center message, you know, compared to, you know, just playing into this idea of this spectrum game.
	I think Ken kind of comes across as more of a center character.
	I like RFK, even if I disagree with him on certain things.
	I like his demeanor and I like the way he listens.
	And that's not to compare and contrast to Trump.
	I just think, as a matter of principle, Bobby RFK being present in this debate is very useful and productive and brings out a lot of the problems of the system and of the people.
	And you can't win if you don't try, too.
	And he might win if only by raising awareness of where the Democratic Party is falling off the ledge, and his presence is value-added to everything.
	My partner in Crime Barnes thinks that, you know, RFK's presence in this debate is a good insurance to removing Trump because if Trump, for whatever the reason, is not on the ballot, that is good for RFK and RFK as a viable alternative is the best insurance to making sure that ultimately Trump does not get removed from the ballot.
	I had one thing that I was going to say.
	And the campaign is working diligently on getting on all 50 ballots, too, which is not an easy task.
	Barnes has talked about that.
	Explain what a difficult task that is for someone who's involved with it on the day-to-day.
	Well, there's 50 different states with 50 different sets of rules, 50 different time periods.
	And different amounts of signatures required with different requirements on each of the signatures gathered.
	Typical parties like Biden and the Democrats, they pay for everything.
	They pay for influencers.
	If they need signatures, they pay for signatures.
	They've already gone out.
	This is somewhat hearsay, but apparently they've already gone out and they've spent an absurd amount of money.
	Contracting all the signature gatherers for whatever Democrat DNC cause they need.
	Basically just flooding, buying up the whole market of that to discount people from or to make it more difficult should the Kennedy campaign want to enlist the services of those signature gatherers.
	They couldn't.
	Now, if you had to rely on paying for all your votes and paying for all your signatures, that would be an issue.
	But I've seen that we have a mighty...
	Gathering of volunteers and supporters that are willing to commit their own time and energy towards it without being paid.
	And that's the difference between the DNC, the Democratic Party, and what Bobby is doing.
	This is a populist, this is a popular movement that's inviting people to come participate and envision a better tomorrow where we heal the divide.
	And I've seen it from all sides.
	Of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, believe that there's an opportunity here to forge a new path forward.
	And I honestly believe he can win come November 5th.
	And we have 345 or 350 days to affect that.
	And already...
	He's polling very strongly against the other two candidates.
	And really, I think Joe Biden, there's really nowhere that he can go but down.
	I mean, there's always...
	There's a punchline to a joke there that I can't...
	I would not feel comfortable saying.
	Now, let me ask you this question, because I know you've got to be getting it all the time.
	This is coming from our Locals community.
	Victor Cardone asks, Viva, please ask him his thoughts on RFK's campaign manager being CIA.
	So it's a...
	I say a talking point.
	It's a point of concern.
	We've talked about it a number of times on my channel.
	It's his daughter-in-law who has a history with the CIA.
	Oh, we've lost him.
	Look at this.
	I'm here.
	No, I'm joking.
	I know you're not going.
	I pissed him off.
	That's it.
	He stormed out of the interview.
	That's a joke, everybody.
	This is her name.
	Coming of age in the CIA, Amaryllis Fox.
	So Amaryllis Fox Kennedy is now the campaign manager, and this is the book that she wrote detailing her time within that agency.
	Is it critical?
	I believe it's critical, the book, correct, of the agency?
	I'll say that she has a very well-developed, just personally from my interactions with her, She's fighting for the force.
	She's on the side of light and recognizing a lot of the nonsense that takes place even through the higher levels.
	Bobby's a smart man too.
	I don't believe that he would let in and You know, an agent of destruction into the whole campaign.
	So, you know, I have nothing but great respect for her, and I encourage everyone to, like, you know, listen to her own writings and her own stories.
	She's very vocal and independent in her own right.
	And on Twitter, she's been lately lighting it up pretty well.
	What's her handle on Twitter?
	I'm pretty sure just Amaryllis.
	Go check that out.
	And now, I don't want to forget this, Kyle.
	You've also written at least one book, correct?
	I did.
	I wrote one book called The Unified Wallet Unlocked the Digital Golden Age, and looking at the importance of self-custody wallets, just like you have a wallet in your pocket.
	As we move into this digital age, you need a digital wallet that has the same characteristics of the wallet in your pocket, meaning you're in control of it, and a little bit more.
	Especially as we enter the age of digital identity, too.
	Like, folks, digital identity is already here, and it's not going away.
	So we need to have smart digital identity solutions that preserve our privacy and enable for...
	Enhanced experiences that don't mean we're part of the surveillance state.
	So anyways, I wrote that book because I recognize one of the key things towards adoption of Bitcoin and all this technology is going to be the need for a wallet of that.
	And then I wrote Canadao, How We Return Power to the People after the trucker thing and after the trucker movement.
	And that was like, you know, basically a call for liquid democracy and direct democracy in Canada, largely inspired by the Swiss model, but also leveraging technology for how we can do it.
	It is not a deep book.
	It is like a booklet.
	It is a 36-minute listen on YouTube.
	But it was just meant to kind of get a conversation.
	Canadao.
	DAO.
	So DAO stands for Decentralized Autonomous Organization.
	And the future of the organization based on...
	Blockchain, if you will.
	It sounds like it's kind of robotic and automated, but it's not really the case.
	It's more that imagine every Canadian has a vote or has a token, if you will, that's theirs and theirs alone.
	And with that token, they can vote specifically yes, no, abstain on certain things.
	Or someone like yourself, who's very well-informed and has a lot of people who trust and believe in them, could delegate their vote to you.
	And say, like, you know, I'll just trust you to vote on my behalf on these things.
	And let's actually vote on the specific issues, you know, that our politicians are voting on versus voting on our politicians in this, like, you know, this weird ritual where you make one checkmark every four or five years, and that is democracy.
	It's not democracy.
	Power of attorney to a bunch of corrupt hacks.
	I heard you describe this, and it's an interesting thing.
	We're talking about digital ID, and everyone gets offended.
	And I say rightfully so because it's the next level of it.
	But, you know, a lot of people got offended at the Arrive Can app and say, oh my God, Canada's going into digital ID and they got offended at the vaccine requirements to cross the border, as they should.
	But, like, people didn't appreciate or still don't, you know, when I cross into the border, they take a retinal scan.
	I mean, they take a picture of my face.
	I think they're taking a picture of my eye.
	It's already there.
	And when you were describing...
	To the other podcaster, you know, when you go into a bar and you give your driver's license so they can check your age and they say, oh, well, I got your age now.
	I got your height.
	I got your eye color.
	I got your home address.
	I got your classification of what you're allowed to drive with.
	They got a lot more information than what they needed for the purposes for which they needed it.
	And nobody bats an eye at that because we're used to physical ID as opposed to digital ID.
	And so the idea that you could...
	Taper down the digital aspect.
	It's an interesting concept.
	I didn't actually think of it that way ever.
	Back to this idea called a zero-knowledge proof is the technical term for it.
	And where it is, is all the bouncer or gatekeeper needs to know is, are you over this day and time?
	And then you've got a verified credential that's saying, let's say, your driver's license that says your age and this and that and your address, all that.
	But it has your date of birth.
	So it can simply do a question of, are you older than this age?
	And it's a green light, red light.
	Yes or no.
	It's a binary answer.
	And like, yep, okay, you're in.
	Welcome.
	Or versus, nope, you're not.
	Not welcome.
	You know, because there is a situation, like, you know, I'm pretty sure multiple women have lost their lives as a result of showing the card to somebody who either took a picture or, you know, took note of where, you know, an attractive victim...
	Ultimately resides, and through this forced ritual of sharing this information, you expose yourself to this type of liability or this type of danger.
	So that's one of the examples that can be leveraged with this concept of self-sovereign digital identity.
	It's interesting.
	I read a comment in the Rumble section which says, we want the paper trail, which is an interesting thing when it comes to everything not electronic.
	Flip side is...
	In Bitcoin, I don't think there's ever any physical paper trail, but there's a ledger that is as much...
	I presume there's a way to adapt the Bitcoin model to any form of digital ID, but I tend to understand people's concerns about them.
	Yeah, well, and just in terms of one of the things I'd like to share about...
	We owe the transparency of Bitcoin.
	It's all.
	Every transaction is recorded on a public chain.
	Everybody can see every transaction.
	It doesn't say Kyle sent Viva $10.
	It says this address and this address this much.
	But in terms of arming us with arguments and suggestions for how we go forward, to anybody who wants to push a CBDC or a digital currency on the people, first...
	Let's put this technology on our public servants and on our governments.
	Let's have radical transparency of all government spending along with digital identities tied to all the decision makers and the lobbyists of our public servants and elected officials to assure there's no corruption.
	Because I remember a couple years ago, Christia Freeland was asked, where did this $10 billion in infrastructure spending go?
	She's like, I don't know.
	Like, what?
	How do you not know where $10 billion in funding went?
	Well, we don't know.
	And it's like, this is not an answer.
	This is not an acceptable answer.
	That's grounds for firing in whatever position you are if you can't account for the funds that have been spent.
	So first, let's apply this open public ledger technology towards the governments and towards the public institutions so that we can regain trust within them.
	Because once there is this oversight, all of a sudden you'll find that a lot of those shadowy business dealings won't.
	continue to happen um so that's that's one of the areas if you if you impose that digital uh id on government workers and and require transparency that would be a one good way to whittle down the size of the federal government or the provincial government that would be a good deterrent and also hey what's good for the goose is good for the gander but that would be a good way to whittle down the size of government well when you seem to fix that like we had like when the system when like if the system
	Based on its design can be exploited.
	Like, so there's dark money pools and there's shady transactions that don't get reported.
	And, you know, I don't know where that $10 billion got spent to.
	If that's like an acceptable scenario of the system.
	There's a problem here.
	It's time for an upgrade to the system.
	This is where the Bucky Fuller model of you can't fix the system by fighting it.
	To truly change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.
	I look at Parliament and it's like, dude, this is not working.
	We do not have an option here.
	How do we get every Canadian to register for the Democracy app or the Independence app or whatever it might be?
	To be able to share, delegate their votes, have open, honest discussions, and create our own alternative governance system compared to the party one.
	I actually talked to some MPs about that.
	I won't mention his name just for his own privacy.
	He was very interested in the idea of mailing out all of his constituents with the idea of an app that would allow his constituents to vote on the things that he was voting on, to get a direct polling sense from the community.
	And he thought that that would be...
	Because in our current system, it's like the government's got this whip power and everybody's just forced to vote the way they do and people will be damned.
	And so there's a great opportunity here and there's a general open call towards the builders and the innovators to create that, to recognize that the current system is like this mix between the parties,
	corporations, the media, And then there's also like the polls are kind of in the center and the research groups that conduct these pollings and usually they're commissioned by either the parties or the corporations to do that.
	They're very rarely commissioned by independent people towards doing polling.
	And then the polling...
	Like, you know, generally influences the policy.
	And so there's this nasty little cycle.
	And I had a good chat with Jordan Peterson about this specifically.
	It's like, you know, if there's a way to get more validated data and polling from the people, that's a good place to start towards breaking apart this, you know, this matrix illusion of public sentiment.
	Kyle, I asked how much time you had, and we said you were flexible.
	I don't want to be greedy with you.
	Have you got a few more minutes?
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's go.
	I don't think I have any.
	Let me just...
	When my kids start banging down the door, that might be my cue to exit.
	But for the time being, I don't think they're home yet.
	I've got to ask you...
	Okay, I'm going to ask just two more questions here, and then we're going to go to locals, and we'll see if you can take some questions there and see if we have anything more specific.
	Two questions.
	One's about RFK.
	I see people in the chat saying, ask him about RFK's position on guns, or they refer to it as a gun grab.
	Then someone challenges me and says he won't ask.
	As if, oh, I hate when people think, oh, that's not the way to do it, but I'm going to ask the question anyhow.
	People, I don't think that RFK Jr. is the gun-grabby policy type, but maybe I'm wrong.
	What is his position, Second Amendment, gun rights in general, if you're able to answer it?
	He's not coming for the guns.
	He's said very clearly, I'm not coming for your guns.
	It's like he recognizes the importance of guns in America, in American culture.
	The Second Amendment is to protect, literally, against Tyrannical government.
	So he has been very clear about that.
	And back in the day, and again, I'd like to posit as well that people evolve over time and change.
	I think Bobby in the last...
	It wasn't since, I don't know, when he had his kind of vaccine awakening.
	But before that, he thought they were all good.
	But then upon looking at the information, he was like, okay, this is not cool.
	And he'd also been talking about some smart grid technologies and renewable environmental stuff before.
	Then, after witnessing the totalitarian approach and the dangers of the surveillance state, he's shifting opinions and also looking and a believer in decentralization.
	So, he's not coming for your guns.
	He's definitely not an eco-fascist pushing the carbon bullshit tax.
	As far as the guns go, though, do we need to make a distinction about guns at large and...
	Quote, assault rifles?
	Or, I mean, look, what's funny is here, I'm just going to pull this up.
	I don't know what the article is, the publication, but it is funny because you see how they want to...
	The left is going to demonize him for one reason.
	right maybe once or some people who think they know jr rfk are going to demonize him for another reason kennedy said quote by He also said, I'm not going to take away anybody's guns.
	He also said, without evidence, that psychiatric drugs were to blame for school shootings.
	So this is how the left is going to go after him for saying that he's not coming for your guns.
	The right will always say, or at least some on the right maybe will say, he is coming for your guns, he's just lying about it.
	Does he make a distinction between assault rifles or so-called assault rifles and other guns, or it's...
	A broad policy not coming for them.
	It's broad policy not coming because, again, it's not about...
	The purpose of the Second Amendment isn't to protect hunters' rights.
	It's to protect defense.
	According to Trudeau!
	According to Trudeau!
	I'm bringing it back home!
	Oh yeah, nobody needs an AR to hunt deer!
	There's no right to self-defense in Canada.
	I mean, there is, but there's no practical right.
	You can't own a gun for self-defense.
	You can't even own pepper spray, right?
	Can't own a nunchuck.
	Can't own a nunchuck.
	Can not own a nunchuck.
	Bare knuckles.
	Can't have a bat for the purposes of defense.
	So that's the answer, chat.
	Brass knuckles.
	So what I'll do, I'm going to end this.
	I'm going to give everybody the link to locals so they can come over there for a little after-party Q&A.
	I always forget.
	To allow the interviewee to mention where they can be found and what they're working on.
	I'm going to send a link.
	I'm going to post a link.
	It's going to be an Amazon affiliate link to your book.
	And if it's short, audible, I'm going to listen to it this afternoon.
	I listened to a number of podcasts.
	I think I love that.
	I don't need to worry.
	It's a little bit dated, but I would say the Canadao one is more interesting about emerging forms of government.
	Where do you find me?
	I'm at Kyle Kemper on Twitter, at Kyle Kemper.
	There's a little symbol next to it, which is my symbol, but it's also a Russian character called Zha or something like that.
	Oh, no.
	Now you're a Russian sympathizer.
	Add it to the list.
	Oh, yes.
	That's interesting, too.
	That's really interesting.
	Anytime I chime in on our...
	The Liberals or Justins or any of his little puppeteer group of their ridiculous tweets, like, you know, calling for peace or this.
	It's like, man, there's a whole, like, bop movement of, like, this NAFO group out there on Twitter.
	North American.
	What is it called?
	North American.
	Fellas.
	Fellas.
	North American Fellas.
	I know, and they literally hacked one of the Doge memes, too, which is kind of too bad.
	I'll bring up your Twitter so that I can show it.
	And I've got just two more questions before we go over to...
	Hold on.
	Bring this here.
	Stop this.
	Yeah, so, I don't know.
	Twitter's a great place.
	My DMs are open.
	Yeah, I checked them.
	And feel free to reach out.
	I also want to really actually talk with you, maybe not publicly, but about the whole locals thing too.
	I feel like, you know, I feel like this is the future of media and conversations.
	And, you know, I started a little show with my friend Sonny called the Love and Freedom Show back in the day during the trucker convoy.
	And it was really well received.
	And I like doing this kind of stuff.
	We'll talk locals afterwards.
	You might be in Twitter's bad books.
	I've never been able to, in incognito, not view someone's account.
	Really?
	Yes.
	I don't want to start any rumors.
	Let me just make sure my DMs are not open on Twitter, and I'll go to my page here.
	This is what your account looks like.
	Booyah.
	Let me make sure here.
	Kyle Kempler with Arooski K. He's a Putin apologist, everybody.
	In addition to everything else.
	Kyle, I've got to ask you the...
	Don't forget about anonymous Q organizer from Ottawa.
	Local chapter organizer.
	According to...
	This was one of John Ivesons.
	Unverified sources.
	According to...
	According to anonymous sources...
	Kyle Kemper is also a local QAnon chapter leader in Ottawa.
	Dude, you are...
	You just got to add that at the end?
	Anonymous sources, people familiar with your thinking.
	That's the other one.
	Sources familiar with Kyle Kemper's thinking.
	Where we go one, we go all, right, folks?
	Trust the plan.
	The chat will kill me if I don't ask you this question.
	I was going to save it for locals, but that seems too crass.
	I'm going to ask you this straight up.
	You've been your brother's brother for your entire life.
	You've been at dinner tables, etc.
	It's impossible that you as a family have not heard over and over again the joke, meme, urban legend, rumor, or hard fact that your mother, she's had a history, and it's on Wikipedia.
	I'm not dating a lot of people, open relationships, yada, yada.
	The rumor is that Justin Trudeau is actually the child of Fidel Castro.
	It's impossible that as a family you haven't heard that, you haven't talked about it internally.
	That was never actually a rumor until those photos came out and were widely distributed and publicized.
	And at which point it became something that everybody was talking about.
	And all of a sudden it's like, you know, everywhere I go, everyone I meet is like, well, is it true?
	Is it true?
	And so, to this point, let's...
	Come on, folks.
	We're smart folks here.
	Understand things that are important and worthy of discussion and things that are meant to distract and create just useless energy spinning.
	There is nothing.
	Even if it was true, I do not believe it to be true.
	I believe that to be...
	What's the word?
	Is it disinformation?
	Distraction.
	It would be distraction.
	This is like counterintelligence.
	But it's also deceptive.
	It's a distraction away from to have a big discussion about that and have a debate about that when it's...
	I don't believe it to be true.
	No, and also I should say, distraction, but also discrediting distraction, as in the people who then float it sort of get discredited, and there's a part of me that believes it's possible that that is as much of a QAnon-type thing to discredit people, say like, okay, get distracted about Justin Trudeau being the bastard son of Fidel Castro, so that...
	Nobody takes anything else you have to say seriously.
	I've never cared one way or the other.
	I say, like, what makes him a Castro-Communist is that he acts like a Castro-Communist, not whether or not he's the birth, you know, the son of Fidel Castro.
	What makes him a problem is his open praise for China and communism, and not whether or not who his father might have been, whatever.
	But as long as you don't know, and that's as thorough an answer as one can get.
	The other question is this.
	I believe that the media, and I think it's fairly confirmed, that the media was covering up by withholding certain pictures of Trudeau in blackface for years.
	They knew about it, and the media deliberately did not cover them, did not report them, etc.
	Am I right in thinking that this was a well-known thing internally that the media was covering for him for the better part of a decade?
	I'm supposed to answer for the media?
	No.
	Were these facts, inconvenient facts, known within a smaller circle that was a concerted effort to not publicly disclose?
	I mean, I didn't have that photo, but...
	Again, it's like everyone...
	He's done lots of things over the time and if those are the ones that came out, there's probably photos that haven't come out yet.
	There's probably information.
	There were people like Jeffrey Epstein in this world for a reason.
	People don't get to positions of power.
	People are always saying like...
	I get on Twitter all the time, like, he should be Prime Minister.
	It's like, it's impossible.
	It's like, if the people get to be Prime Minister, play the game.
	Play by the rules.
	And if Justin was speaking, if he was speaking anything like I was speaking, he wouldn't be Prime Minister.
	There would be another spokesperson, candidate, actor who's there.
	So he's there.
	And the stakes are pretty high, so there's probably some insurance in play.
	And, you know, that's one of the things that Justin's going to have to deal with, you know, moving forward.
	And anybody who's participated or, you know, got trapped by anybody under blackmail or duress, etc., like, you know, you've just got to own your actions.
	You've just got to, you know, stand up to do it.
	I won't read too much into this and I certainly won't ask, you know, very specific, but it comes out.
	Even after, the idea is that it'll come out eventually, regardless, after death, and as though the life, the humiliation of whatever it is, people believe that there's legit, dirty blackmail stuff on Trudeau that can only explain the transition and what he's done.
	He has a life, you know, rumored to have a life that would admit for that type of blackmail.
	People tend to think, like, well, so long as the blackmail information does not come out in my lifetime, at least I won't be there to be humiliated.
	But it will come out at some point.
	Well, and ultimately as well, it's like, you know, even if it doesn't come out, like, your soul be damned.
	And that's the problem here.
	It's like, you know, at the eternal level.
	And that's why it's so important to, in my belief, is to be truthful, fearless, and gentle.
	And, you know, be impeccable with your words.
	You know, don't make too many assumptions and don't take things personally and always do your best.
	Who said that?
	I know you said...
	Whose advice was that?
	You said it was from a book that everyone has to absolutely read.
	The Four Agreements.
	The Four Agreements.
	Okay.
	And now, by the way, I didn't bring this up all show.
	Viva, love your show.
	Your mic is too far base.
	You need to turn up the treble.
	It's a little late for that, but I have to figure out...
	My mic sounds fine even when I replay this to myself after the podcast, but I'm not your buddy, guys.
	I gotta say...
	You look like a hairier Viva.
	Speaking of lookalikes, why does your...
	Okay, I got this one.
	Okay, forget it.
	According to that original photo.
	And I'm like, I asked where those photos come from because those just came out of nowhere too, right?
	And I do wonder if they haven't been played with because it's very easy to make subtle changes.
	It's so easy.
	And that came out just before the whole AI revolution too.
	Come on.
	And then there was a new member.
	Okay, so what we're going to do, if you have 15 minutes at Akala, I won't hold you for more than that, but this has been phenomenal.
	What we're going to do is I'm going to give everybody the link to locals.
	We'll take a few...
	We're going to stay right here, right?
	Yeah, we stay right here, and it'll just be...
	I'm going to take five minutes.
	I'm coming right back, so you just deal with all your people.
	I'll go to the chat.
	Okay, do it.
	Just talk.
	I'm coming back at five.
	I'm not listening either.
	Oh, don't worry about that.
	This has been phenomenal.
	I'll read the chat.
	Now Rumble's telling me I've messaged too many times.
	I can't message anymore.
	So what we're going to do, everybody, there'll be a little after-party Q&A.
	At Locals.
	There's a number of questions out there.
	One from Denise and two, which says, Great show, David.
	Everyone, if you follow Tim Pool, I'd recommend watching his show tonight.
	Brian Lupo, a.k.a.
	CanCon, is going to be on the show tonight.
	Why did I...
	I recall seeing a tweet from CanCon earlier today.
	Okay, well, we'll do that.
	Let me see this here.
	Am I allowed to link it one more time?
	There we go.
	So come on over to vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	I'm going to end it here, and we're going to ask a few more questions of Kyle.
	This has been phenomenal.
	Everybody, look.
	You might think you know what you know of RFK Jr., and you probably only know that from the very same media that demonized Trump relentlessly for a decade.
	You just have to always approach things with that skepticism.
	Challenge what you think you know of people.
	Ask yourselves how you think you know it, where it comes from, and then maybe, just maybe, question what you think you think and what you think you know about other people.
	Okay, with that said, come on over to Locals because we're going to have the talk there.
	Kyle's going to come back.
	And if he doesn't, I'll sit there talking to Locals at vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	What's on the menu for this week?
	Good stuff.
	I don't know what it is.
	I've got a dog.
	She's going to take a dump in the room now.
	She's looking at the door.
	I'm going to end on Rumble.
	Thank you all for being here.
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com for the after party, as usual.
	And if you're not coming, I'll see you all tomorrow.
	We'll be live tomorrow with whatever news occurs between now and tomorrow.
	So ending on Rumble.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Peace out, peeps.
	And there we go.
	Now, let's get to Locals.
	Make sure that we're good.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's go look at Kyle's backdrop here.
	And let's see what's...
	I did this before the show, so I know there's nothing embarrassing.
	Oh, I gotta bring this one.
	There we go.
	I can't see too good.

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