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May 23, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

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Interview with François Amalega; Jailed, Fined $98,000 for Covid Violations - Viva Frei Live!

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	They're attacking me.
	I've just got attacked.
	I left my house.
	A group of Antifa.
	So, that's it.
	I just got attacked.
	A group of Antifa.
	As you can see, he lost his glasses.
	My glasses fell off.
	These are my glasses.
	This is the group of Antifa that just attacked me.
	As I was leaving my house.
	I'm leaving my house calmly.
	They assaulted me.
	I don't know why you're still following me.
	Look at them.
	My glasses are broken.
	Here, look at this.
	You see them?
	Au secours!
	Au secours is when it's stopped.
	Now, some people...
	Let me just take this out.
	Some people are going to say that anybody who has, you know, a sense of self-preservation, maybe following a gang of thugs into an alleyway.
	That's in Montreal.
	Looks like it's the plateau.
	Maybe not the best decision.
	But then again, to document, and as you're going to see, Francois is a unique human being in the risks that he's willing to take for what he believes in.
	For those of you who don't, first of all, we're going to get into this.
	Francois is here.
	We're going to do a 45 minutes with Francois, and we're going to stay on YouTube and Rumble for that.
	And then when Francois has to take off, after that, I'm going to go over to Rumble, but we're going to keep this all intact.
	If you don't know who Francois is, by the way, I put up an article in our Locals community.
	It's an old article.
	I think I posted it on Twitter.
	Anybody who's been following COVID madness in Canada would know who he is.
	I'm pretty sure he's born in France, but might not be born in France, but French.
	You can tell by the accent.
	Has racked up close to $100,000 in COVID fines.
	Public enemy.
	You would think that this guy is like the most dangerous person in Canada by the way he's been treated by the media, the court system.
	You'd think he's the most dangerous guy in the world.
	There was an article in French News, La Presse, which described him as a very intelligent, charming individual.
	Super, super smart mathematician.
	Then he got radicalized.
	Amazing stuff.
	We're going to talk to him.
	Okay, so Francois.
	I'm getting ready to bring you in.
	Let me do...
	Oh, sorry.
	Before we go, let me just make sure that we're...
	Before we bring him in, let me make sure that we are live everywhere we need to be.
	We are.
	Good.
	Locals.
	Good.
	And what was I going to say?
	Standard intro, standard disclaimers, no medical advice, no election advice, no election fortification advice, no legal advice.
	And now we're going to talk to Francois for a bit and see what's going on with him in Canada.
	Francois, bringing you in.
	In three, two, one.
	Sir, how goes the battle?
	The battle is difficult, but that is the battle, because it's serious.
	We are fighting for our freedom.
	Freedom of thinking, freedom of moving, and freedom of doing what we want.
	It's serious.
	It's really serious.
	I'm going to bring up the broad view here.
	For those who don't know what's above Francois'right shoulder, it's this pesky little document called the Charter of Rights of Freedoms above your shoulder, which you'd think doesn't exist, certainly has been bypassed by politicians and the media.
	And Francois has been going out of his way and getting into trouble in his pursuit of protestation.
	No, I'm from Cameroon, but it is a French colony.
	It is in Africa.
	In Africa, I was born there.
	I grew up there, and I grew up in the Francophone site because Cameroon is...
	It's smaller than Canada in size, very, very small, because Canada is a continent.
	But in the language, it's a bit similar, because we have two big languages.
	We have our African language, but the official language, we have French and English.
	But contrary to Canada, the French is the majority.
	Like 80% of the population of Cameroon is Francophone, and I'm in that part.
	But there are also Anglophone, about 20% of the population.
	And so there are many Cameroonians that if you meet them, they are just speaking English and some of them don't even understand French.
	So it's different because here in Canada, the Francophone is the minority, the Anglophone is the majority.
	So I am born in the French part of Cameroon.
	Okay.
	And so you spent no time in France?
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	I read somewhere that...
	Oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	But we have been a French colony.
	Since I am a child, we are fed by French television, French radio.
	Our school system is the French school system.
	I mean, yes, we have been a French colony until 1960, even though now I still consider myself a bit like a French colony because the money we use, the France CFA, is the money that is manufactured in France and France is controlling many, many things in Cameroon.
	And I think that is what they want to, not France, the globalists want to do it in the whole world.
	I mean, they want to control the world.
	We'll probably get into it, but in Canada, is it the Bank of Canada that was doing a central digital banking currency poll questionnaire, consulting the public because they might be going digital?
	If I may ask, François, how old are you?
	I'm 45. Six days.
	Okay, well, and I'm 40. I just turned 44 today.
	So happy birthday in advance.
	Okay, okay.
	So you're a Gemini as well?
	Huh?
	You're a Gemini.
	I mean, like horoscope.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Was that Jumo?
	Yes.
	I mean, that is what...
	It's true that I don't consider it too much, but according to the classification, that is what...
	I don't put any weight in it whatsoever either.
	It's just, you know, everybody asks that question.
	So 45. Born and raised in Cameroon, how many siblings do you have?
	We are eight in our family.
	I have four sisters and three brothers.
	I am the sixth in the family.
	Tabarnouche.
	As we say in Quebec, Tabarnouche, you're the sixth of eight children.
	Yes, yes.
	Fantastic.
	Behind me, there is a girl and a boy.
	And your parents, are they still alive?
	They are still alive, by God's grace, yes.
	They are still alive.
	In Cameroon or in Canada?
	Northern Cameroon.
	My father will turn 81 this year.
	My mother, she's three years younger.
	She will turn 78 in July.
	We have some bizarre similarities here.
	My parents are virtually the same age.
	I'm the youngest of five, not six of eight.
	Until when did you grow up in Cameroon?
	I grew up in Cameroon from when I was born in 78 until 2012.
	Yes, I have not done any other country, Cameroon, and I came here in Canada.
	I came here exactly on the 13th of March 2012.
	I say exactly because it is on the 13th of March 2020, the exact same date that the law costs down.
	Yes.
	There's coincidence in numbers and all these things, but there's just funny coincidences in life.
	Yes, funny coincidence.
	Sometimes you look at it and you just smile.
	So, 78, you come to Canada in 2012, so you're give or take, I can't, you're about, okay, fine, 40-some-odd years, no, 30-some-odd years old.
	Yes.
	Why do you come for studies?
	No, I was a math teacher in Cameroon.
	I did a bachelor in pure mathematics.
	I did a master in teaching mathematics.
	And I taught mathematics in Cameroon from 2001 to 2012.
	So I did the immigration process, Immigration Quebec.
	I came like a permanent resident.
	So I entered on the 13th of March, 2012, like a permanent resident.
	I became a citizen in 2017, if I don't forget, yes.
	But in the process, the five first months, so from March to August, I was in Quebec City.
	I was working in the IGA, in restaurant, things like that.
	Then I started schooling again, and I did a master in algebra in the Université de Montréal.
	So I did a master in algebra.
	Then I went into a PhD.
	I didn't complete the PhD.
	My PhD was in number theory.
	I was going to say, you didn't finish it.
	You slack her.
	You didn't finish your PhD after your master's.
	I'm joking.
	I mean, I finished the master and in the PhD I did because in the University of Montreal, if you want to have a PhD, you have to do five courses.
	Then you have to do three PhD exams.
	Then you have to write a thesis.
	So what I did, I finished all my five courses.
	I did them very well.
	I finished all my three PhD exams.
	I did one exam in geometry and topology, another one in algebra, another one in analysis.
	I completed them very well, and I started doing the research for my thesis.
	So during that process, I started working like a mathematics teacher in CEGEP Jean de Brebeuf.
	Okay.
	But for anybody who doesn't know, Brebreuf is a very, it's like the best, one of the best Asian.
	It's the best college in Quebec.
	It's the best college in Quebec.
	So I started working there like a math teacher.
	So, and I took more, I mean, because there is a selection.
	When you start working there, it does not mean that you stay there.
	You have to go through a process.
	So I was more serious into that process.
	Then I...
	I a bit neglected to be the part of the research, all that, but I was more in that area.
	So finally, three years later, I became a permanent teacher in CEGEP Jean de Brebeuf.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	It's true that personally I continue to read maths from time to time, but it's almost very difficult now with all the fighting we are having.
	And I intend, because I resigned in Brebeuf, I was a permanent teacher.
	I resigned five years later on the fifth of February.
	But since I'm convinced that we are going to win, one of the things I really want to do is that I will go and complete my thesis just to have it to start other things later.
	When did you resign from Red Boeuf?
	The 5th of February 2021.
	Okay, so like, and was it because of the COVID stuff?
	Yes, exactly.
	That is what brought me there.
	I'm just going to bring this quick, just to show everybody here, this is how the French media portrays you, François.
	Le mathématicien radicalisé, the radicalized mathematician.
	And this describes how you're smart, charismatic, but you've been radicalized.
	It's so outlandish.
	So you teach at Brebeuf for an extended period of five years.
	Decide you're not getting your thesis at that time.
	What's the experience like teaching?
	You're teaching 17 to 19-year-olds.
	Typically, there might be some older kids.
	Yes, yes.
	What's that like?
	I mean, it's a job I like.
	I did that type of work in Cameroon.
	We are following the French system.
	In Cameroon, we have what we call the lycée.
	You enter into the lycée when you finish primary school and you finish the lycée and you go to the university.
	So it contains the secondary school called the CEGEP.
	So there, when you are a professor of the lycée, you can teach all those ages.
	For example, in 2012, when I came to Canada, I was teaching in Cameroon.
	I was having one class of 11 old students.
	I was having one class of 16-year-old students.
	And I was having one class of a student of 18. So I was having three classes.
	That is how lycée is.
	So that is the type of work I've been doing since 2001, teaching in lycée and all the stuff.
	So when I came into Canada, I knew that it was very, very difficult to have a job with my certificate.
	So I was prepared.
	I went into school, and I love doing schooling.
	I love it.
	So finally, they took me in Brebeuf like a PhD student.
	With my master, with all what I was going through.
	And also, I had a teaching experience in Canada because I was doing teaching assistantship and all those things.
	Okay, now we're going to get into the juicy stuff.
	But before we get into it, just one question.
	I presume, and I don't know, and I hope my presumption is right.
	You had a good record as a teacher.
	You weren't a troublemaker.
	You weren't getting...
	No, no.
	My teaching record is perfect.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	And now I'm going to ask another question to which I don't know the answer.
	Had you had a criminal record before the year 2020?
	I've never had any criminal record.
	Never.
	Never.
	So tell me this.
	How does a nice, smart mathematician professor at Brebeuf go to being a radical, outspoken violator of the law of Francois?
	Tell us what happens to you when COVID hits.
	We're all in Canada.
	It was March 13. Two weeks to flatten the curve.
	I remember people have lived through my transition in this entire process.
	People are meeting you for the first time.
	What happens to you?
	Let's say in the couple of weeks leading up to the lockdown and then afterwards, were you always interested in civil rights?
	Were you always a defiant, rebellious, principled believer in the truth?
	What happens to you when the world gets locked down and what you see as results?
	Okay, if we speak just some few weeks, just before the lockdown, I was really busy with my teaching activity.
	When you are teaching in Breber, in Segep, you have a lot of things to do.
	I was having three classes I was taking care of, and it was a lot of jobs.
	But I was hearing about the virus that has come out in China.
	But at that time, I think it was more Italy.
	They were saying that Italy is crazy.
	It's crazy in Italy.
	So I remember that in Quebec, we had the...
	I don't know how to say it.
	Spring break.
	Spring break.
	Okay.
	So we had a spring break.
	Then we came back to class at that time.
	And I remember one day I was even joking in the classroom.
	I was asking some students, are you coming back from Italy?
	That is where you were.
	We were just joking like that, not imagining what was coming.
	So I knew I heard about that virus, so I was not too much concerned because I thought that it is something that will remain far, far away.
	Then on the 12th, I think some students...
	I didn't even follow the...
	Because I think there was a press conference on the 12th with the Prime Minister of Quebec and they were saying that the gatherings are going to be limited to 250 people.
	Maybe it was on Wednesday on the 12th that on the 12th I was in school.
	I was having classroom.
	But on that day, you could feel that there is something that is coming.
	There is even one teacher that told me that they are going to close everything.
	So, but I was still hoping that they would not close everything because I've planned everything.
	I was loving my job going through.
	And then, at the end of the day, I heard that the school is going to be closed on Friday.
	So I was in the house and I followed the press conference.
	And I can tell you, I was a believer of that.
	When I heard the Prime Minister of Quebec, François Legault, speaking, for me, I took him seriously.
	I agreed with what he said.
	Yes, frankly, I agree.
	I'm not laughing at you at all.
	I'm just laughing in advance of where I know this comes to.
	By the way, spoiler alert, people.
	Francois has a restraining order that he can't go within 300 meters of Francois Legault.
	The Premier of Quebec will get there.
	I think everyone was in the same boat for two weeks.
	And then after that, I think people changed.
	I say the insightful people might have started questioning things.
	Sorry.
	Continue.
	What I say is that I, because I'm from Cameroon, I have so many Cameroonian friends.
	Sometimes we go to one house to the other, we eat some weekend.
	Sometimes when we are very busy, we can do it two weekends, not every weekend, maybe twice a month.
	So at that time, one of them invited us and I'm the one who told them that, did you not hear what the prime minister said?
	You have to, yes, I was, but...
	I was in the house.
	I was being paid.
	They told us to stay in the house.
	So I was having a lot of time.
	I was going to YouTube, Google everywhere, typing COVID-19, all those things, just to know about it.
	Because I was hearing about it, but not too seriously.
	But I was having a lot of time trying to know a bit about it.
	So that is where I discovered the French medical doctor, Didier Raoult.
	Didier Raoult was saying that with hydroxychloroquine.
	There is no need to panic because it's taking care of people with hydroxychloroquine and it is a sickness that can be very, very easily cured.
	So there is nothing.
	So when I heard that, the first thing that I thought was that the leaders of the world, like Francois Legault, Justin Trudeau, Emmanuel Macron, all those people, they panicked.
	So when I see the...
	The French doctor, I see that he was having his CV, his curriculum vitae, is a huge one.
	He's not only a doctor, he's a professor in medicine, leading one of the biggest centers of medicine in the world.
	So I thought that with him coming out and saying it, maybe people are going to take it seriously and maybe the leaders of the world are going to say that, no, maybe we have exaggerated in our reaction.
	My surprise was big when I discovered, reading other articles and seeing some things everywhere, that even in February, they have been criticizing him in France.
	So they have been criticizing him.
	That is where I realized that, no, there is something wrong.
	Let me ask you this.
	Do you remember finding out that France had banned the use of hydroxychloroquine?
	Exactly.
	In January.
	In January 2020.
	This article is from May 20, but they had done it earlier.
	This is France bars use of hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 cases.
	The French government is revoking a decree that had allowed hospitals to prescribe hydroxychloroquine in some cases, saying there's no proof that it helps patients.
	Oh, so you better illegalize it.
	So do you discover this?
	Because were you one of the people who discovered this at the time and not like the slow people like me who discovered it?
	No, no, no.
	Look, what I want to say is that for me, what happened is that sometimes later, I realized that the Minister of Health in France, in January 2020, in January, because in French, I will say it a bit in French, maybe you will translate it.
	There are, there are, for example...
	Dis-le en français puis je vais le traduire.
	No, no, let me, there is something I can say in English.
	For example...
	If you have headache in Quebec, in Canada, you go in pharmacy, you buy Advil.
	You don't need a medical prescription.
	But there are some types of drugs that you cannot go to pharmacy and buy them like that.
	You need a medical prescription.
	So in France, before January 2020, hydroxychloroquine was exactly like Advil.
	So the word is over-the-counter, no prescription necessary?
	Yes.
	If you just go to a pharmacy, you have money, you buy.
	It was like that.
	But in January 2020, before having hydroxychloroquine, you needed a medical prescription.
	That is how they blocked it.
	And then the fighting of hydroxychloroquine came when Raoul was speaking about.
	From that time, when I realized the problem of Raoult, it was like in the first week.
	I mean, we are about on the 19th, 20th of January, of March, that I realized that.
	And I started listening to the French conference in another way.
	I could realize the contradiction.
	Because you could really see the contradiction.
	Because in one side, they were telling us that we don't know a lot about that sickness.
	We are building the plane.
	In the air, we are learning.
	But when you are not sure of something, how can you have such authority in the prescription?
	Because that was the contradiction.
	In one side, no, we are learning.
	But in another side, you have to stay home.
	You must not do this.
	In the beginning, they were even saying you must not wear masks.
	Then you are obliged to wear masks.
	Somebody is saying that he does not know.
	Many things about the sickness, but at the same time, he has too much authority.
	And even with the contradiction, a lot of contradictions that were coming.
	And that is where, I mean, things changed.
	I started listening to many many other things, posting things on my Facebook, posting videos, posting articles, many things on my Facebook.
	News were coming out.
	We could see the contradiction that were a lot like the article of Ferguson, Miss Ferguson, the British mathematician, because officially it is this article that frightened, I think, the Prime Minister of England.
	Was it Boris Johnson at the time?
	Boris Johnson.
	Boris, the guy with the hair guy.
	Yes.
	And he, Ferguson, the modeling, I forget what school he came from, but it's notorious, apparently.
	London, British of...
	London?
	Yeah, and he had said, like, millions.
	It was going to be millions, and everyone went with Ferguson's modeling.
	And, Francois, you bring back memories now, because by April, I'm having this internal argument with my former best friend, an old friend, and I'm like, he's like, oh, well, there's still so much we don't know.
	And it's like, if there's stuff that you don't know, you don't lock people down, and you don't cripple...
	A society and a generation because you don't know.
	That's what you do only if you know definitively that that's what's necessary.
	Otherwise, you're throwing darts blindfolded with extreme consequences.
	And yeah, so Ferguson predicted his modeling and it was London School of Economics.
	Okay, and so you're asking the right questions at the beginning.
	When do you start running into trouble for what you're posting on social media?
	Okay, now, from that time when I came in Quebec, my Facebook was mostly people in Cameroon, people that I met in Quebec, my classmates in the university, some teachers that were my colleagues, and some people I met in some churches.
	So that was a bit my Facebook.
	So when the protest started, there were many people I was not knowing.
	So it is true.
	Somebody that I met in one church that I realized that there was a protest in May 2020.
	So I really wanted to go to the protest.
	So now I started going to the protest, posting the picture of the protest, all the video, things like that.
	And my colleagues, they were seeing that I am, as they were calling us, anti-mask.
	While we are not anti-mask, we are pro-truth.
	And by the way, sorry, if I may just pause here.
	When you say your colleagues, you mean professors, other teachers at Brebeuf?
	Exactly.
	Other teachers at Brebeuf.
	Because I had some colleagues in Brebeuf that were my Facebook friends.
	So before 2020, everything was right.
	I mean, generally, I am friends with many people, so I was having colleagues, but they realized that I am on that side.
	In the beginning of September, because in September, they allowed us to go for the meeting because everything was online.
	I thought during the summer session it was online.
	That was very bad.
	For students, it was very bad for us teachers.
	And in September, we had the first week.
	They allowed us to go, but with many conditions, many rules.
	And then I spoke with the head of mathematics department.
	She called me in the office and she...
	She asked me not to speak about all those things.
	I can't.
	I mean, I can't.
	What does that look like?
	They call you and they're like, Francois, look, can you not talk about COVID?
	How does it play out in real life?
	And also, she asked me if I can make my Facebook account private.
	Because she said that if mistakenly a journalist...
	See me in a protest and realize that I'm a teacher, so they don't want...
	At that time, in the beginning, I was still hoping that there was a possibility of things to come normally, even though for me it was clear that the program was on.
	So we agreed.
	I said that, okay, I will put my Facebook account private.
	I agreed that time, and that is where everything became...
	So I put my Facebook account private, because for me, I was having a crowd of friends.
	For me, it was already good if I was able to convince them.
	But the things became more and more complicated.
	And the protests were growing up in Quebec.
	And we had a big protest that was maybe 70,000 people.
	Yes, yes.
	That depends on who you ask.
	I think the CBC said there were several hundred protesters.
	I remember calling this out at the time.
	They said several hundred gather.
	And I'm like, first of all, I wasn't at those protests in the beginning.
	But I was like, no, no, those are tens of thousands of people.
	No, no, it's a lie.
	The thousands and thousands of people, I mean, when you stand, you can see crowds passing, passing thousands of people.
	And they had a climate protest here.
	You could see the small crowd.
	They say 7,000 people for a small crowd.
	And when you put the picture of one of Montreal protests, you could realize that it is maybe 20 or even...
	50 times that.
	But they said that that protest is 7,000 and our protest is just some hundred people.
	So they call you to the office.
	Can you not talk about it?
	Can you make your Facebook private?
	And you've got to know at this point, the relationship is going south.
	You do it nonetheless.
	But I continue to speak about COVID.
	I continue to go to the protest.
	But what I did is only that I made my Facebook.
	That is the point.
	But now, since the protests, they decided that because they imposed masks in Quebec on July 2020, I think it was on the 18th of July, they imposed masks in all public closed areas.
	Meaning that in the protest, the mask was not obliged.
	It was not a mandate in a protest because in that decree of the 18th of July, it was only for...
	Public closed area.
	But then, when they realized that the protest was growing, they decided that in the protest, we have to wear masks and we have to respect the two-meter distance.
	I remember there is one last protest we had.
	It was called by Daniel Pilon.
	And on that protest, we were like 500 in the Parc La Fontaine.
	And there were police...
	Vehicle that were going around and they were saying that you have to wear the mask.
	Oh my God.
	I'm going to see if I can find that.
	I'm going to see if I can find that tweet.
	I tweeted that at the time.
	I went to the protest near the Olympic Stadium.
	It was out of a dystopian Orwellian novel.
	They were going around in heavy vehicles with a bullhorn saying, in virtue of a decree, we have to keep six meters or six feet away from each other.
	Francois, do you want to know how funny things are?
	I was going through my drawer for this just randomly, and I found my mask, which was the face with the...
	What a ridiculous thing.
	I mean, and I did it.
	I wore masks at the outdoor protests when I was documenting them.
	Okay, man, so you're going to protest.
	You're being vocal about it, but your Facebook is on private.
	At this time, is Brebeuf back to in-person teaching?
	It's not, right?
	No, but they said that students were suffering from the problem during the winter, because the winter session was broke towards the end in March.
	So we finished the winter session online.
	We did the whole summer session online.
	So we were complaining that we want a little bit of...
	Teaching in presence.
	So the meeting to start the fall session was physically, and they tried to have some few classes.
	For example, I was having three groups in the spring, not in the fall, but one of the three groups, we were having two classes, not three classes, but one class was in presence.
	The other one was online.
	So I was having 15 hours of teaching, three groups.
	But among those three groups, there is only two hours that we went to class physically.
	And also, but it didn't stay long.
	It stayed only in the month of September.
	Because in the month of October 2020, we enter into the défi veris jour.
	They say that we have to stay home.
	And then in school, they decided that even those two hours was closed.
	So the school went completely online.
	But we had...
	Because we were complaining that we cannot really have good exams.
	Because every student was doing an exam in his house.
	So the student wrote his exam.
	Then he take a picture with his phone and send us.
	That is how we were doing things.
	So we saw that it was important for us to have an exam physically.
	So they succeeded.
	I don't know how.
	In the middle of the session, we had an exam physically.
	And in the end of the session in December, we have the final exam physically.
	But what happened is that in the end of March, When they decided to impose masks in protests, and you could really see that the contradiction was too much.
	And INSPQ, the Institut National de Santé Públice du Québec, they brought a study saying that there is no proof that masks help, and there is no proof for the contrary.
	So they came with a neutral conclusion.
	Well, it's a neutral conclusion.
	Until they mandate, or notwithstanding the mask mandate, you were right, it was July 2020, they imposed the mask mandate.
	But in September, they have a neutral.
	So during a press conference, a journalist asked Horacio Arodao, who was the director of Public Health, that is the conclusion of ENSPQ not destroying your decision because the ENSPQ is coming with a neutral.
	He said that, yes, there is no proof, but I strongly recommend it.
	But he was not strongly recommending it.
	He was mandating it.
	So what I did personally, I went into the metro.
	I took a picture of myself without a mask.
	So it is at that time that for me it was obvious that it is no more a question of debate.
	It is a question of civil disobedience.
	So I started going everywhere.
	This is the question.
	This is where people are going to say this is the definition of being radicalized, where you make a decision.
	I'm going to get a ticket.
	I'm going to break.
	I don't even know that they were laws because they were never passed through the Legislative Assembly.
	They were public health emergency edicts.
	You say that's it.
	I believe so strongly in this.
	I'm going to post evidence.
	This is the picture that started a huge problem.
	So at this time...
	At this time, I am in a metro going to teach to Berber because at that time, as I told you, we were having, out of the 15 hours I was teaching per week, two hours was physically during the month of September.
	But in October, we went completely online.
	So this is one of the days where I was going to school and I decided that no, mask is finished.
	So I took a picture of myself, I put it on my Facebook and I said that this morning, Without masks in Montreal Metro, civil disobedience has become a social, a moral duty.
	That is what I posted.
	Is it private or public when you post this?
	No.
	At that time, my Facebook is private, but my Facebook friend, so the other teachers, they see it.
	All my friends see it.
	But what happened is that we were having a forum of math teachers, a forum of math teachers, where I was...
	Where we were speaking about things concerning our departments.
	But sometimes a teacher could make a joke, speak about some private things.
	I mean, like when you have prisons.
	So me, from time to time, I was also posting things concerning COVID.
	And also at that time, it was the campaign in the United States with Biden and Donald Trump.
	And I'm still a pro-Trump.
	You can imagine that in a group of teachers like that, I was the only animal that could support Trump.
	Because for everybody, a normal human being cannot support Trump.
	I mean, mostly in a school like that.
	People have to understand, this is not just Canada, this is French Canada in a CEGEP institution, which is left of left.
	And Francois from Cameroon, who should, by all metrics, you're holding abhorrent beliefs by all checkmark metrics.
	Well, you know, okay.
	the Trump supporter and you're clearly a radical and you have no business doing or believing any of this because you're a mathematician, you're not an epidemiologist.
	No.
	You're Canadian, you're not American.
	So you're a heretic.
	They must freak out.
	Finally...
	The first encounter, when I was called, I was called by the head of mathematics department.
	So she asked me to make my Facebook private.
	But one day, I was called by the director of human resources of Brebeuf.
	So, meaning that the director of Brebeuf is there.
	And there is the director of human resources, the director of Direction des Etudes.
	Yes.
	But the department is under, because under the director, there are sub-directors.
	But now, it was no more that woman that was in charge of the math department.
	No, it is the director of human resources that called me in a meeting.
	On that day, we were three.
	Me, that woman, and our...
	How do they call it?
	The syndicat.
	Oh, the union.
	The union, okay.
	The president of the union of teachers.
	So we were three of us in that meeting.
	So now, and each one of us was in his house.
	So she called me and she showed me the picture I've just shown you.
	This is digitally, this meeting.
	This is on computers.
	Exactly, as we are like that.
	So she did exactly what I've done.
	I mean, she showed me my picture.
	With our phone, she said that, do you know this?
	I said that, yes, I'm the one.
	And she said that, okay.
	And she was not laughing.
	In that meeting, she was just, her face was just, just to, yes, to say that she is not a joke.
	She said that, what you are going to do now, first, you are going to remove this picture.
	Second, you are going to start obeying all COVID rule.
	Third, you must not criticize any time again the government.
	Do you understand?
	I told her that so that she can understand clearly.
	I prefer to die of hunger than to go against my conscience.
	So I started it to say that you have called me like the Director of Human Resources.
	If you've called me because I was not serious in my practice, if you've called me because they have accused me of trying to do things with students, if you have...
	No, no, I will understand.
	But if it is concerning, the fact that there is no science is what the government is saying and I'm criticizing it, just forget about it.
	So she back up because she realized that there is nothing.
	If she wants to frighten me, she's wasting her time.
	I told her that clearly.
	Because for me, it was important to notice that I am a teacher in Breber.
	I was happy to be in such a big group because I thought that people are there because of their intelligence, of their brightness, of their capacity to argue.
	And when you have the capacity to argue, intelligence means that if I'm wrong, I will go back.
	I mean, if you convince me that I'm wrong, I have to...
	Intelligence means that I have the capacity to realize, and I go back, not intimidation.
	So if it has become an intimidation path, I clearly told her that no, stop.
	It's useless.
	So she back up, and the president of the union stayed with me, told me to stay quiet, all those things.
	And they did nothing.
	But what happened is that in December, during the exams, physical exams, I had my mask on the chest.
	Yeah, the chin.
	The chin.
	And there is a teacher who is my Facebook friend who saw me because there were teachers in classes, but there is a teacher who is like in the corridor, not in the classes, who is taking care.
	If there is a problem in one class, he can do a replacement.
	So I was passing like that and he saw me and he spoke to me in front of the student that...
	The mask is on the nose!
	Put it on your nose!
	That is why it spoke to me, me, another teacher, who was speaking in front of students.
	So, since I saw that they were students, I didn't want to create a conflict.
	So, I put the mask on the nose.
	When I crossed, I put it down, just because I saw that it was useless to create a conflict.
	So, when I was coming back, all the students were already in.
	And he was waiting me in the door, because he knew that I would put down.
	And he told me, put back your mask!
	I told him that, take care of your classroom.
	I will take care of the corridor.
	It's good like that.
	And I continue.
	He came with his phone, trying to take a picture of me without a mask.
	This is a colleague.
	How long had you known this person for?
	Maybe three years.
	Had you ever seen him act like that kind of an animal?
	No.
	I mean, before COVID, he was a very kind man.
	He was, I mean, we were Facebook friends.
	We were knowing each other in school.
	Every time we met, we were having, I mean, sweet discussion, very good discussion in many aspects.
	We were respecting each other.
	And, I mean, he was a good colleague.
	That was the first, I mean, it is with COVID that things become like that.
	And when I saw that he wanted to take a picture, in the beginning I was putting my hand like that because I was a bit taller than him.
	But finally, and I see that he was doing everything to take.
	So finally I turned myself and the mask was on the tin.
	I removed completely the mask.
	And I said that, don't take a picture, take a video of me.
	Take a video.
	So it told another teacher that was, do you see Francois does not wear a mask?
	I said that you don't need a witness.
	You have the video and I will not deny it.
	I will not deny it.
	Your video is...
	So finally, in the evening, I had a calling again.
	A meeting was programmed with that director of human resource and with the president of the union because of that.
	So I told them that yes.
	I don't deny anything.
	What he's saying is true.
	They suspended me three days without salary.
	Then after that, everything became normal again.
	So I continued to be a teacher.
	We had protests.
	I was going to protest.
	And I had my first COVID ticket on the 19th of December 2020.
	I think that was the day I had my first.
	Because I was in the protest on that day.
	Not wearing a mask because they were imposing us masks in protest.
	So that is where I had my first ticket.
	I had my second ticket on the 20 because there was a protest on the 19, a protest on the 20, a protest on the 21, and I was on the 3. And I had in each protest one COVID.
	And this is because you're not wearing a mask outside?
	That is, I was not, my first COVID ticket was because I was not wearing a mask during a protest against masks.
	And the tickets, if I recall correctly, they were $1,800, give or take?
	No, $1,500.
	$1,500 of tickets.
	So I have actually all my COVID ticket together.
	It is $98,327.
	So my only regret is that I have not reached $100,000.
	With interest and penalties, you're there.
	So you're getting one ticket after another.
	I mean, I'm going to ask the stupid question, but it's not even a question of paying them.
	So the financial aspect is, I'll be going to jail before I pay these tickets.
	I will never pay them.
	That is not even something that they deserve.
	Because for me, paying them is like I am cleaning somewhere, a room.
	After cleaning, I throw the garbage back again.
	Because for me, I refuse.
	And I don't judge those who are paying.
	I'm not in any judgment.
	For me, it is my personal view on me.
	Because I have done many civil disobedience.
	I mean, I will tell you in some few minutes, but...
	Maybe I can tell you directly.
	I was going to the police station.
	I remember it was maybe on the 26th of January.
	I went into a police station because they put a curfew in Quebec.
	And the curfew started, if I don't mistake, the first curfew was on the 9th of January 2021.
	Yeah, and it went until, it went five and a half months.
	It went until May, virtually May.
	Yes, the 28th of May.
	Then they put the curfew again on the 31st of December, and it ended on 17th of January 2022.
	But at that time, the first curfew, we had a protest.
	We were like 20 people protesting.
	I remember that one, and I think you got into big trouble there.
	And that is where, with Brebeuf, things become more again, because on that day, we were not made, because up until that time, I didn't have any contact with the media.
	It's true that there were some pictures of me in some newspaper, but that was not a picture of me.
	It was like taking a picture of the crowd of protesters, and there was some picture where I was appearing clearly, but it was not a picture of me.
	It was just a picture of crowds.
	But on the 9th of January, we were only 20 people protesting.
	So there were many media around.
	And since we were very few, all the media, CBC, Radio Canada, they were there.
	And there is a journalist that asked questions to almost all protesters, and he asked me questions also.
	And so, since we were not many, people that were knowing me were seeing me everywhere.
	People that were knowing me, they were seeing me.
	And also Brebeuf saw.
	And we were supposed to start school, I think, maybe on the 17th of January, something like that.
	On the 11th of January, I was called to a meeting.
	With the same woman, the Director of Human Resources.
	And they told me that, no, now you have gone.
	Now you are speaking to the public media.
	Before you were only on your Facebook.
	Your Facebook was private.
	Now you have gone too far.
	I told them that I cannot back up.
	You don't know what is coming.
	It's impossible.
	So they suspended me for two weeks without salary.
	And during that time, I went into a police station.
	Because there was the curfew.
	I went into a police station maybe at 10 p.m.
	And I went to tell them that there is curfew.
	I'm not respecting curfew.
	Put me in jail.
	But on that day, I made a live video.
	That was the first.
	It is on that day that I did my two first Facebook Live.
	The first Facebook Live.
	I was out of the house.
	I told people that I'm going to do something.
	That was my first Facebook Live.
	That I'm going somewhere.
	I'm going to the police station.
	I'm going to say that I can no more bear it.
	There is too much lie.
	I cannot obey it.
	So the second Facebook Live, it was close to the police station.
	I went there.
	But on that day, I didn't meet any police.
	I did around the Centre de Commandement Sud.
	Nobody.
	So the second Facebook I did, it was on the 14th of February.
	I went back and there I met the police people and I told them that it is the Feast of Love, 14th of February.
	I've come because the woman I love is freedom and she's in prison.
	So I've come because...
	I can no more live without my love, my love, freedom.
	So I want you to put me in jail with freedom.
	So finally they said that no, they just gave me a ticket and they said I have to go back.
	I said that no, I'm not obeying the curfew.
	If you don't put me in prison, I will continue.
	I said go.
	So I just went like that with that ticket.
	But during that period of two weeks, I had many meetings inside Breber with the people of Breber.
	They realized that I don't want to back up.
	Finally, they asked me, do you want...
	Brebev can help you.
	Do you want help?
	I said that, yes, help me.
	And they made me to meet a biology teacher who is very...
	I thought you were going to say they asked you to meet a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
	No, but I met a psychiatrist when I was in prison in 2022 because...
	They made me an exam to know if I'm not...
	I don't have mental problems.
	They did it when I was in prison.
	Somebody of Pinel, he met me online and he did me a screening, asking me questions, things like that.
	And he even gave me a report saying that the report was that I was not...
	Okay, hold on.
	So your tickets are racking up.
	You go to the police station.
	You say, screw it.
	I'm live streaming this.
	Put me in jail.
	They say, no, here's a ticket.
	Go home.
	Do you leave the police station and then just walk around looking for more trouble or do you go home?
	No, I continue to walk.
	But finally, since it was winter, sometimes I just go back to the house.
	But the problem is that once you leave the police, they don't even follow me.
	Meaning that I can go where I go and they don't even know my house, you understand?
	Yeah.
	So that was, I mean, they just said, go home, go home.
	And I didn't did it once because on the 14th of February, I was alone.
	But then many people came with me.
	The second time we went into the police station, we were maybe 20 people.
	So we were maybe 20 people.
	We went into a police station.
	We went and told them that it is finished.
	We don't obey a curfew again.
	They gave us tickets.
	They said, go back.
	We'll just continue our march.
	We did it in many, maybe in six different police stations.
	We did it in six different police stations in Montreal.
	We were going into the curfew saying that my dream was that if we could reach maybe 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 people so that they cannot even be able to give tickets again.
	So in the brave earth, before I resign, we are still in the month of January.
	They made me to meet a biology teacher.
	And the biology teacher, we were three.
	The biology teacher, me, and the president of the union.
	The aim of the meeting was to help me to understand the COVID and the government mandate.
	But that biology teacher was very bad because we had a serious discussion and he realized that he was not doing anything.
	He was just repeating what the government was saying.
	I started speaking to him about Ferguson's article.
	He was not knowing about it.
	I explained him anything.
	So finally, he ran.
	Because he were three in an online meeting, he left the meeting because he was...
	My argument was too strong, so it went away.
	So the president of the union realized that I know it was very...
	So finally, I had other meetings with the director of human resources, the director of studies, Direction des Etudes.
	They asked me that.
	They understand that I have my opinion, but they just asked me to keep it to myself.
	They don't want...
	So I told him that, no, my opinion, I don't keep it in my mind.
	I speak it.
	If I'm wrong, I want to correct it.
	That is what we tell to students.
	When I enter into a classroom, I tell to the student that there is not a stupid question.
	Ask any question.
	We are here to build the knowledge together.
	So finally, they gave me back my classes.
	They just asked me that they want me to...
	To be sure that my Facebook is private, they gave me back my classes.
	And after the two weeks of suspension, I realized that my salary was in.
	And I told you that, but you have suspended two weeks with my salary.
	If you suspend me and you give me the salary again, it's good.
	So they took back the salary.
	And then another day, the director of human resources, she called me and she asked me that, she said that there are some parts of my Facebook that she can see.
	So my Facebook is not private.
	I told her that, no, my Facebook is private.
	It's only that there are some publications, that there are some posts that some of my friends said that they cannot share it.
	So I made those posts public.
	And she said that, no, I have to be sure.
	I said that, no, the posts that are public will remain like that.
	There is nothing I will change.
	So finally, on the 5th of February, she planned a meeting.
	I thought that she's the one I will meet.
	Now, it was the director of Brave Birth that I met.
	And what he told me was that, close your Facebook.
	He was not even saying that I have to make it private.
	He said, close your Facebook.
	I told him that, no, I cannot do it.
	He's wasting his time.
	He said that, if I don't close my Facebook, There are more serious, how can I say it?
	Consequences.
	And I told him that, and he said that he does not want to argue with me.
	I have the right to have my opinion, but I have to cross.
	I told him that.
	You have the right to your opinion.
	Just keep it to yourself.
	Yes.
	I said that, no, he's wasting his time, and I'm disappointed.
	When we finish like that, I wrote my resignation.
	And I give it to him.
	And to tell him that it's not possible for me to do it.
	So that is where I continue.
	So they won in a sense.
	I mean, they got you to leave.
	And now they don't have to deal with you at Brebeuf.
	And the kids will not have the benefit of your knowledge and your courage.
	But you've taken your battle to a broader audience.
	Exactly.
	And I could stay there and wait that they should try to...
	To send me away.
	But one of the things is that I decided that I would not try to let them try to manufacture something.
	By me resigning, by me...
	Many people did something different.
	And I don't have...
	I'm not...
	How can I say it?
	I'm not arguing with that.
	But for me, it was clear that I have my teaching record clean.
	Everything is clean and I am the one who resides.
	I was a permanent teacher.
	So that is why I continue with protests.
	I had a lot of COVID, all those things.
	The number of times I've gone to a police cell, I cannot count it.
	I should let you finish.
	I just want to know, when's the first time you get arrested and put in a cell?
	The first time I was arrested and put in the cell is a bit difficult to have to think.
	Maybe it was in the month of March.
	2021.
	Or April, yes, 2021.
	Maybe it was March because one day I was mostly doing protests in Montreal and in Quebec, but it was during the day.
	We were having some protests in the parliament and many protests in Montreal and in some cities around Longueuil, all those things.
	In Quebec, there has never been a curfew protest.
	So one day I decided that we have to do something in Quebec.
	Because we have gone through all the police stations of Montreal.
	So one day I decided that we have to go to the head of the police of whole Quebec.
	So the Ministry of Public Security.
	So we are going to go to do a curfew in front of that ministry at the curfew time.
	So I called some people.
	I had three available.
	So we were four in my car.
	We went to Quebec just like that.
	I think it was in the night of March.
	We just went in front of the Ministry of Public.
	I was having a megaphone and a drapeau.
	Yeah, the flag.
	A Quebec flag.
	So we were in front of the Ministry of Public Security during the curfew.
	Saying that we are not going back, we are here.
	So, and we were, for us, we were sure that the police will come.
	And we were even in front of the road, going back, nothing happened.
	So, and I was live on Facebook, and I said that we have not come here just to say, no, no, no, in the road.
	We came here because we want to meet the police of Quebec.
	So finally, we went into the police station, and we told them that, We are not respecting the curfew.
	And the police said that, okay, guys, I give you an order now.
	Go back to your home.
	If not, you are going to arrest them.
	I told them that we are not going back.
	And they said that, okay, this is your answer.
	They asked questions to the three other people.
	They refused.
	So that was my first time to spend a whole night in the cell.
	And each week, we were having a curfew in Montreal, a curfew in Quebec.
	But in Quebec, every time we were having a curfew, In front of the Minister of Public Security, they were putting us in jail.
	And so everybody appreciates, you mean Quebec, Quebec City versus Montreal?
	Quebec City.
	Quebec City, Capitaine Nationale, it's the provincial capital, two and a half hours away from Montreal to the east.
	That is where the parliament is.
	Yeah, and so you go in jail, they keep you there overnight each time, or do they keep you in for extended periods of time?
	Yes, because the curfew was from, in the beginning, it was from 8 to 5. So, when they arrested us, for example, if they arrested us at 9, and they first give us a ticket, no, they were starting by saying that, okay, it is the curfew time, go back to your house.
	When you refuse, they come, they give you a ticket, and they say, go back to your house.
	When you refuse, they arrest you until 5 a.m., so that you continue, don't continue.
	So, I mean, there were people that were coming to the protest, and some people, they were just, at the time, When they say go back to the house, some were going, some were staying when they gave the ticket, and we were few that were staying until the prison, until the police cell.
	So many times like that I was, I've been, but in prison, I've been in prison four times.
	In the, not in the police, in the prison I've been four times.
	Because of COVID stuff?
	Yes, the first time I went into prison, it was for, I think, Four to five days.
	Why?
	It was in July 2021.
	We organized a protest in Juliet.
	We went into a Canadian tire.
	We were about 23 people.
	This might be when they implemented the mask?
	Was this when they implemented the vaccine passport?
	No.
	The vaccine passport was in August.
	Okay.
	Some weeks later.
	The mask was implemented one year before, but we are in July 2021, and our protest was that we just entered into that Kalajan Tire.
	We decided to do shopping without masks.
	We were about 23 people, and they arrested me, and they gave me a condition not to come back.
	I refused.
	The next day I came back, they arrested me now, and they put me in prison for about five days, and they released me.
	In the second time I went into the prison, because on the 10th of August, the Minister of Health, Christian Dubé, announced the vaccine passport.
	I entered into the press conference and I wanted to ask because it was written in Pfizer's website that the...
	COVID vaccine is not approved.
	He has received only the authorization.
	So I asked him to, I wanted to ask him that what is the guarantee he's taking because Pfizer even recognized that, but he ran away.
	They stopped the diffusion because it was direct.
	So when I wanted to ask, they stopped, they blocked it and they put me out and they started again the press conference when the police put me out.
	But that one, they didn't put me in prison.
	The second time they put me in prison was on the 28th of September 2021.
	Why?
	Because in the month of March, I went to do shopping without masks.
	When I entered there, they called the police.
	The police came.
	When the police came, I was out.
	I even finished shopping.
	So when I saw the police, I told the police that I'm the one you are looking for.
	And the police told me that, okay, we have understood.
	Don't do it again.
	You understand?
	I told them that, no, it is my right to do shopping without mask.
	And they said that, okay, come out of your car because I will give us your driving license so that they can do me a COVID.
	So I came out to the car.
	I gave them my driving license while they were going to their car to do me a ticket.
	I went inside the shop again.
	And they ran behind me.
	They arrested me.
	They put me down.
	They put me handcuffed.
	They put me a mask on the face.
	They bring me out.
	They gave me a ticket.
	And they gave me an accusation of entrave a la police.
	I don't know how this is.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's sort of resisting arrest or obstruction.
	It's obstruction.
	Obstruction and arrest.
	So I had that accusation.
	That was on March.
	On the 28th of September, I went now to court for that accusation.
	And by the way, just like, you know, logically, you were obstructing police.
	You were.
	But you were obstructing conduct that ought never have been enacted in the first place.
	And so this is the madness.
	This is, you know, obey the idiotic order, and if it don't, then it's another crime that's above and beyond.
	It's like contempt for a bolt, you know.
	Holy cow.
	Okay, fine.
	So, obstruction.
	But this is the funny part.
	Now, on the 28th of September, I'm supposed to go to the court because I am accused of obstructing the police.
	But the funny part is that to enter to the court, you have to wear a mask.
	So, now, what is going to happen?
	Am I going to wear the mask to enter the court because they are accusing me of something that I...
	because I didn't wear the mask?
	If I wear the mask in the court, it means that I was wrong not to do it.
	Because if I wear the mask in that shopping, I would have never had a problem.
	So for me, it was obvious that I have to go inside the court without a mask.
	So that is exactly what happened.
	On the 28th of September, I entered into the court without a mask.
	I was waiting in front.
	After some times, The people came and they said that you have to go out.
	You don't wear a mask.
	I didn't resist it.
	I went out.
	I had a little bit of argument, but I went out.
	And then the guy came back and said that the judge, I said that he will stay outside, but when he will call you, he will come and take you, but you will wear the mask from there inside the court, and during the court, you have to remove the mask.
	I told him that...
	No mask is touching my face.
	He went back, maybe after some minute he came that there is an arrest mandate against you.
	So they arrested me and I spent seven days in Bordeaux, in prison.
	And the reason was because I refused to wear the mask in the court.
	So all my judgment, I did it in prison.
	Like a prisoner.
	And the reason was I refused to wear the mask.
	For seven days I was in prison.
	What is prison like?
	I mean, you're with real criminals, if this is the place that I...
	Yes.
	But for that seven days, I have not been in contact with prisoners directly because Bordeaux is a big prison.
	And when you enter because of COVID, you do 10 days of...
	Solitary confinement.
	Solitary confinement.
	And if you accept, they can make you a COVID test.
	But the problem is that for me, since they knew that it would not be for a long time, I spent those seven days alone in my cell.
	So this is...
	Now it's not funny anymore.
	I mean, it was never funny, but it was at least you could laugh.
	Now you're in solitary confinement.
	Yes.
	24 hours a day.
	The only contact I was having with human men was the guard when they come and give me my food.
	I forgot to ask you two important questions.
	You're not married, no kids, right?
	Not married, no kids.
	Are you a religious man?
	Yes.
	So tell me how you get through.
	Look, I mean, I can be alone with my thoughts for an hour.
	I mean, this is a nightmare.
	I'm not claustrophobic, but solitary confinement is a torture for a reason.
	I don't think anybody else is going to undermine this or downplay.
	Oh, seven days, big deal.
	Or you asked for it.
	Seven days solitary confinement.
	How do you not go crazy?
	I mean, I was praying.
	I was knowing the reason for which I was there.
	It was important.
	For me, it was...
	I was arrested on the 28th, a Tuesday.
	The first night, I spent it in the police station.
	Then in the police station the next day on the 29th, because it is good to see the 7th day, on the 29th, I was in front of the judge by visual conference.
	The question was that if I agree to wear the mask, they set me free and they give me another date where I will go back to the court with masks.
	I said, no way.
	There is no way.
	So finally, they sent me to Bordeaux prison.
	There I met another judge.
	If I was ready to not wear the mask, if I was ready to wear the mask, they set me free, but I refused.
	So in Bordeaux, it was about, let's say, maybe five days of solitary confinement.
	But I've done more than that because I've told you that I've been arrested four times.
	This is the second time I'm arrested.
	Because the fourth time I was arrested was three months and three weeks that I was in jail.
	In jail, yes.
	But in those three months and three weeks, I did 16 days of solitary confinement, 16 complete.
	Then another 10 days.
	I will tell you why.
	But during the seven days I was arrested, the solitary confinement was really, let's say, five days.
	Because the first day I was in the police station, the second day I was in Bordeaux, but I had a time where I had a court.
	From the prison.
	But let's say it was like five days where I was in solitary confinement in Bordeaux.
	So, and also they took me twice to the core municipal because they took me from Bordeaux to spend my judgment.
	So finally they condemned me and the judge was even stronger than the prosecutor because the prosecutor said that the time I spent in jail is more than what they are accusing me for.
	So the prosecutor will say that they should just declare me guilty and I've already...
	Send you home.
	But they'll send you home and you'll go do it again and you'll end back in jail because you're proving a point.
	But the judge said that, no, I'm guilty and he gave me a probation.
	One year of probation, I have to keep peace.
	I don't have to.
	So that was only to put me in a situation where they can arrest me anytime for anything.
	But for me, it was clear that I will not, I mean, it is not possible.
	I know where they want to go.
	So for me, just keep me in prison.
	I will be free.
	I will never sign an agreement.
	I will never give my consentment that I agree.
	So for me, it was obvious.
	Keep me in prison, but even in prison, I refused to wear the mask.
	So they were putting me handcuffed behind during the three months and two weeks.
	But sometimes there were some guardians in prison that were just letting me walk without any mask.
	It's Orwell.
	It's like, say I love Big Brother, say 2 plus 2 equals 5, and we'll let you go.
	Yes.
	In November, the Prime Minister of Quebec was supposed to go in Shawinigan.
	He was supposed to meet a group of people there, of businessmen speak.
	So I heard about it.
	I went there with two friends, a couple, a friend and his wife.
	We went there.
	They are very, very engaged in the movement.
	So we went there.
	And we spoke to the...
	I mean, we went inside the place where he was, and I was close to the prime minister, and I wanted to ask him a question.
	They arrested me.
	And they gave me a condition that I must not be close to the prime minister from 300 meters.
	Because you're a big, dangerous man.
	You're asking questions of public servants who were elected.
	Did you vote for Francois Legault?
	I think I don't remember.
	Ordinarily, I don't ask.
	I mean, it's just a joke because I voted for the CAC.
	I voted for La Colise d 'Avenir de Québec in 2019.
	I mean...
	Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
	On that time, I did...
	In Chauvinigan, I think they arrested me for four to five days.
	After that, they released me with that condition.
	Then on January, because they put back the curfew on the 31st...
	On the 31st, we had a protest in front of the parliament and we challenged the curfew.
	So to enter 2022, we entered into prison.
	We were many.
	On that day, many people said that it is enough.
	So we were about 25 people there in the police station.
	They released on in the morning.
	On the 1st of January 2022, we had also a big protest in Montreal to challenge the curfew.
	And I spent also the night in jail.
	So, but on the 16th of January 2022, the Prime Minister of Quebec, François Legault, was supposed to go to a broadcast in Radio-Canada, to Le Monde en Parle.
	So we knew about it, and we organized a protest around Radio-Canada, so that when it will pass, he will know that we disagree with all his policy.
	At that time, there was still a curfew, and the police arrested me.
	They said that I have trespassed my condition of not being close to the Prime Minister.
	And then I said, no, that is you.
	I mean, for me, it was not.
	But the only thing I was not knowing at that time was that once they give you the condition, even if you don't sign, once you take it and you go out, the condition applies.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, that's it.
	There was another case.
	Oh, it doesn't matter.
	I mean, those are your terms of release.
	Violate them, you go back to jail.
	Yes.
	But for me...
	Because there is another time they arrested me in July 2022 and they wanted to release me because Francois Legault was in a city, in a festival.
	I was close to him and I wanted to speak to him.
	They arrested me.
	They put me into prison and they wanted to release me with the condition that I have not to be close to him 50 minutes.
	I said, no, I'm not going out.
	I'm staying here until finally they release me without any condition because at that time I knew already.
	So on the 16th of January, they arrest me.
	And there I was released on the 9th of May.
	So I spent three months and three weeks in prison.
	They wanted to release me with condition.
	I said, no, I'm no more buying any condition.
	So that is why I stayed into prison all that time.
	That's a long time, Francois.
	And solitary, it's not a joke.
	It's a form of torture.
	Yes, for the 16th first day, from the 16th of January to something like maybe in the beginning of February, I was in solitary confinement.
	Then, because I was refusing the COVID test, and they sent me into a jail with other prisoners, I was sleeping on the ground because it was a...
	There was not enough place and there was a cell with one place.
	So they give me a match and I was sleeping on the floor.
	And it was a very bad time.
	Prison is not a good place.
	I mean, the food is not good.
	You are around many dangerous people because there are two types of people in Bordeaux.
	The people that have been condemned for two years minus one day.
	And the people that are waiting for their trial.
	So there are people that have killed, that have done many years.
	Let me ask you this.
	How are the other prisoners in Bordeaux treating you?
	Do you get along?
	Do you have to watch your back literally?
	What's that life like?
	I can tell you that many prisoners knew why I was there.
	And many prisoners were in my side.
	So for that one, I have not had any problem.
	Concerning that.
	Because many prisoners, they were realizing that the government is wrong.
	And so even if some of them, because there are some prisoners that took the vaccine, even if some were not in agreement with me, some few, but at least many knew that I was not there for a crime.
	I was there because I was refusing to submit to the mandate.
	I've got to ask you this question.
	I mean, we're going to get to the aftermath of all of this, and then maybe you'll explain the Antifa thing.
	But what do you...
	Crass question.
	What do you do for work?
	What do you do for money now?
	Like, you have a...
	It's not a joke of a criminal record, I presume.
	Like, you have a serious issue there.
	You're known.
	You're still a public enemy number one in a world gone crazy.
	What are you doing for work?
	How do you live on a day-to-day?
	I mean, when I was...
	When I resigned in Brebeuf...
	I'm not married, not having a kid.
	I was preparing myself to buy a house.
	So I had some money apart.
	So for even a long time, because some people at the time started trying to give me some gift contribution in the protest, I was refusing them.
	But after a time, I saw that there were many people that were really doing it with a good heart.
	So finally, I decided that the people that were giving me, I was accepting it.
	And I did also a little bit of work in the summer.
	Some summer I was doing protesting and I was working also a bit.
	But many people have given me some gifts.
	I mean, sometimes I've been going to protest.
	Somebody come and give me $20, $40, things like that.
	And yes, that has also helped me a lot during the process.
	Yes.
	But for me, I was ready at any time to do like tutoring.
	Yes.
	I have a bunch of questions that I'm going to bring up for you.
	If you have time, I'm sorry.
	I know you stayed longer than we were anticipating.
	I mean, we have started.
	It is good that we continue so that the story should be complete.
	Okay, so you're making ends meet, but I say not to get too...
	Not to invade, but just...
	You're not...
	This has caused financial inconvenience.
	I presume that you're representing yourself when you go to court or you still have court cases outstanding?
	First of all, I had...
	When I was in prison, I was having four big causes.
	Among the causes, the one was...
	The protests in Joliet, because they released me, but I was having a dead cause.
	I was having one in Shawinigan.
	I was having one because they said that I have disturbed peace.
	Because you have to know that when they set me free in...
	When I spent seven days in prison, they condemned me and they said that I must keep peace.
	So when I tried to spoke to the Prime Minister, they said that I disturbed peace.
	So that was another case.
	The other case was that in Trois-Rivières, because in Trois-Rivières, again, the Prime Minister, La CAC, was having a meeting.
	So we organized a protest around the hotel, the Delta Hotel.
	They arrested me.
	They said that the Prime Minister is inside the Delta Hotel, so I'm less than 300 meters.
	So I was having that one also.
	So when I was in prison, I started without any lawyer because...
	I realized that there were very few lawyers that were ready to speak out.
	And not only that, I've realized that many times the lawyer just wanted to help me go out of problem.
	But that was not what I was looking for.
	I was not looking for a lawyer that would say that, no, he has not really disturbed the peace.
	No, he was not.
	He was wearing his mask.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	For me, it was that.
	I was not wearing the mask.
	I started without a lawyer, but many people say that I must take a lawyer.
	I must not be, how can I say?
	Self-represented.
	Yes, about the money, that Devogada money.
	So I took a lawyer, but...
	I was not very happy with, because the lawyer wanted to help me, wanted to try to, no, finally I said that no, because for me, when I was in the court, for me, I wanted the judge to take position.
	I was telling the judge that I have no criminal record.
	I have never been in front of a judge for any criminal things before COVID.
	Now I was speaking clearly to the judge, not, I was trying to show him, so finally I represented myself.
	So out of the four cases, I won two, I lost two.
	I mean, and the two other ones, they give me probation again.
	So actually, normally, I am even in one probation that is supposed to end.
	No, in two probation, I think one is ending on the 27th, the other one is ending on September.
	But for me, it does not have, because the probation was that you have to keep peace, you have to, but that is just a way.
	Not for me to protest, but for me, it is useless.
	I told them, if you want, keep me into prison.
	And if you put me out, they even want...
	In the month of March 2022, I was still in prison while the Freedom Convoy was going.
	That is something that really pained me that I was not there because if I was in the Freedom Convoy, I would have been...
	Helping to fill the...
	I mean, I would have been a good help to...
	I mean, to help the...
	How can I...
	The spirit, François.
	I mean, you would have been...
	You would have been speaking on stage, undoubtedly, and probably being hauled off to jail for doing that as well.
	You might have only attended for one day.
	And even if I was not speaking on stage, I mean, there are many things I would...
	To prepare food.
	I mean, for me, it was the Freedom Convoy is, I mean, one of the, even the great action of resistance in the world.
	So for me, it was, I mean, I'm very proud of the camioner.
	I don't saw the camioner.
	The truckers.
	The truckers.
	I'm very proud of the truckers because they shocked the world.
	They shocked the world.
	And I think that Trudeau was afraid of what has happened.
	I think that...
	It really had a great, great impact in Canada and in the world.
	And that is great.
	So, but in March, they wanted to release me.
	But the condition, in the beginning, they said that I have to obey the COVID mandate.
	I have to be 300 meters from Logo.
	I said that no way.
	So when they arrested me on the 16th, they wanted, five days later, they wanted to release me with condition that if I accepted, I would have...
	Go to my house, not go to prison with the condition.
	But I said that no way, no condition.
	So that is why I stayed longer.
	And in March, they decided that no, they will give me just one condition.
	I have to be 15 meters.
	So they went from 300 meters to 15 meters.
	I told them that if I am a dangerous man, putting me 15 meters...
	Close to the Prime Minister.
	You are putting his life in danger.
	So I told him that it is better for you to keep me in prison.
	Or if you think that I am less dangerous that I can be 15 meters close to the Prime Minister, put it to zero meter.
	So finally, I stood in the prison.
	But I want to tell you that the last day I was supposed to go in the court with the four cases was on the 27th of April.
	2020.
	2022, okay.
	But I was finally released on the 9th of May.
	Why?
	Let me tell you why.
	Since my last case was in Trois-Rivières, it was concerning a protest we organized around Delta Hotel because the Prime Minister was inside Delta Hotel.
	And they arrested me saying that I've breached my condition of 300 meters.
	So I was in Bordeaux prison since the 16th of January when they arrested me.
	I mean, on the 16th, I was in the police station.
	I was in Bordeaux on the 17th.
	But since that time, I was in Bordeaux.
	So on the 25th, 25th, 25th of April 2022, they transferred me from Bordeaux to the prison of Trois-Rivières because I was supposed to have my court date on the 27th.
	Now, when I arrived to the prison of Trois-Rivières, they did everything they do normally.
	It's a humiliating process.
	They remove all your dresses, you have to, all those things.
	But after that, I go back to a cell in the prison and they have to do you a COVID test so that they can put you with other prisoners.
	But I refused the COVID test.
	But the prison of Trois-Rivières is smaller than the prison of Bordeaux.
	Bordeaux have a lot of cells, so they don't have problem to put people in solitary confinement.
	But the Trois-Rivières, they had a problem.
	So when I refused the COVID test, they were really disturbed.
	And they changed.
	I mean, I could realize that they changed.
	But the funny aspect is that when I entered into the prison, I was close to everybody, signing paper, giving information.
	Even when I was in the cell, they were speaking with me.
	But when I decided I refused the COVID, they started taking this dance.
	Somebody who has been close to me all that time.
	Finally, they didn't put me with other prisoners because I refused the test.
	They didn't find a cell for me.
	But they said that they have to find a cell but they have to clean it up.
	So I was there in prison, in that space.
	Now the next day, they put me in the...
	In isolation on the 26th.
	But I wanted to take a shower.
	They refused.
	But it was not complicated because it was like, this is the 26th.
	On the 27th, you will be in court.
	So I accepted all those things without any problem.
	On the 27th now, in the morning, they take me and they bring me into the court.
	But the guy that come and take me, they were dressing with a special suit.
	Hazmat suits, like the orange or the yellow, covered head to toe.
	Yes, but it is very tiny.
	It is a joke.
	I mean, it is a joke.
	So they took me into the court.
	Now into the court, there are some cells in the court.
	So I was there waiting that they should call me.
	But finally, while I was waiting that they should call me, what happened is that they came with a phone and they gave me a phone and they put the volume of the phone.
	So when I was speaking, They were listening.
	What I was not knowing is that, I mean, I was knowing that I was speaking with the judge.
	The people were in the court, but when I was speaking, everybody was listening what I was saying.
	And now the judge was asking, ask me, since you refuse the COVID test, and since you don't want to wear the mask, do you agree?
	That I send you back into prison so that we can have our court case by visio conference.
	I say no.
	It is my right.
	I want to come into the court.
	She said that no.
	If I don't agree, since I refuse to wear the mask and I refuse the COVID test, She's going to be obliged to send me back to the prison so that I do my quarantine, my 10 days.
	So finally, I ask her, so you want to tell me that if I refuse to go back to prison so that I can have my video conference, if I refuse, you will be obliged to send me back to prison.
	I told her that...
	Do you see the problem?
	So now you are asking me to give you the authorization to send me into prison so that I can have the court in Visio.
	But if I refuse that you should send me into prison for that, you will be obliged to give the order that they bring me back to prison for 10 days just to tell her that she has...
	So I said that, no, you don't have my...
	You don't have my authorization.
	I refuse.
	So, we have a little argument.
	I said that, and she said, take time, reflect a bit, and I will call you.
	I said that, no, madam.
	You don't need, I would not, there is no need for me to reflect.
	I am not giving you my authorization.
	You have the authorization, you have the authority to bring me back to prison.
	You have to do.
	So, finally, she said that, no, okay.
	They find another death.
	So, now...
	10 days later, but it became 12 days because the 10th day was falling into a weekend.
	So that is how finally my last date was on the 9th of May, where I had the last date time.
	Finally, my court case, the criminal court case, there is no more one because there is no one.
	What is remaining is the COVID Yeah.
	And I've finally decided I'm not even going back again for the COVID ticket.
	So they are just condemning me.
	Because many times I have put a constitutional challenge against the mandate.
	Because when you go to a COVID ticket, it's just like you have had a ticket for driving.
	Yeah, speeding or something.
	Yes.
	So the only thing is that when you go to court, you have two things.
	Either you can prove to the judge that you didn't maybe cross the red line, the red light.
	If you can convince that the policeman was wrong, so the ticket is dropped.
	But if the policeman can convince the judge that he was right, it means that you have to pay.
	So it is the same thing when you go to court, when you don't do a constitutional challenge.
	You have either to say that, no, I wear the mask, the police was wrong, or I was respecting the curfew.
	But if the police convinced that you were not wearing the mask or not doing it, you have to pay it.
	So I started going and I was doing constitutional challenge to say that those decrees were not valid, but they were dismissing all the constitutional challenge.
	So finally, I decided that I'm no more going.
	So I've been condemned, condemned, condemned, condemned.
	And actually speaking to you, I have had out of the $98,000, I'm really proud of it.
	The only shame is that I could have reached $100,000.
	And they have been condemned to $69,000.
	$69,000 I've been condemned to.
	Let me quickly show you the document.
	I have been condemned.
	This is by default because I think the term is strict responsibility.
	It's like, did you do the thing that we say you did?
	Yes.
	Well, then here's your ticket.
	Were you going 70 in the 60?
	Yes.
	Ticket.
	Were you speeding to get to the hospital?
	Yes.
	Doesn't matter.
	Here's your ticket.
	Yes.
	So $69,000 by default verdicts.
	Yes.
	So the COVID ticket is $98,329.87.
	I've already been condemned to $69,121.69.
	The four times Rissier came to my house, four times.
	Rissier, everybody, is a bailiff in French.
	Yes.
	So these two times they came to my house, they didn't find me, and they were saying that I did a saisi.
	Warrant, seizure warrant.
	And the third time he came and he met me and he told me that I have to...
	I told him that he came to my house and he saw that I have nothing he can see.
	Because...
	I'm not laughing.
	I'm just wondering if you're judgment-proof and good for them.
	But they've got the orders.
	They've got the default and there's nothing you can do about it now.
	They're going to try to...
	There is nothing they can seize because when I resigned, I left the house where I was.
	I was living in a house with my private parking lot.
	I left it.
	I came into a small room because I knew exactly what I was doing.
	So when they came, there is nothing they can seize.
	I mean, are they going to seize some old dressing, some old shoes?
	Maybe they should seize your Charter of Rights behind you and they should read it after they seize this.
	And what they said finally is that they sent me a letter.
	In that letter, they said that I had that letter on the maybe 3 May, like 20 days ago.
	And in that letter, they said that I have to try to pay.
	If I don't pay, I can make community work.
	They said the community work is 817 hours of work, if I agree.
	And if not, they will be obliged to arrest me.
	So, actually, it is on the 13th of May, they are supposed to arrest me.
	And I am waiting for the arrest.
	Because they have committed a crime.
	I will not help them.
	To put that crime so easily.
	I will not.
	I will not.
	Because many people think that everything is over.
	Everything is not over.
	They are preparing us.
	The Wu, for example, decided that they have to...
	They are preparing to sign a document to give the sovereignty of the country, of the world to the Wu, so that now they can take decision on the mandate.
	It will mean no country.
	Everything is not finished.
	They are preparing the digital currency and the identité numérique to close the control.
	They are preparing the 15-minute cities.
	COVID was just a step.
	And Yuwal Harari said it.
	He said that COVID was just a way to enter into the private life of people.
	And the mandate they gave, they have never regretted it.
	Actually, there are people that took agreement, and I don't judge them.
	The people who decided to pay.
	I don't judge them.
	But actually, the government in Quebec and in Canada, they are collecting money of people who are paying COVID tickets.
	They are collecting it.
	And now, they are...
	I don't count how many letters.
	I mean, this is just a bunch of them.
	Look, this is a bunch of...
	I constantly...
	This is just a bunch.
	What is written there is...
	No, take that down.
	Don't show your address.
	Okay.
	It is Bureau des Infractions et des Amounts.
	All those...
	But this is just a bunch.
	I receive it constantly, letters like that.
	But I'm always telling that I will never pay them.
	I'm ready to go to prison.
	It is not that I love prison.
	Prison is not a good place.
	But I will not help them.
	To make an agreement.
	Because I know where they want to go.
	Silencing, intimidating, putting people...
	What they have done with the Freedom Convoy, seizing the counter-banker of people because they have contributed to that, all those things.
	They really want to bring it.
	So there is nothing I cannot accept.
	So I'm ready.
	And the first thing I will do is that I will read the name of that judge that will sign my arrest.
	Because we are in 2023.
	We have now all the proof that the vaccine does not work, that all the mandates were not working.
	And I have forgiven the people what they have done in 2020 and 2021 because I said that many people were not knowing, even if the government they were knowing.
	But now if a judge sign it, it means that that judge, when he will be signing my arrest mandate, he is signing the fact that he completely agrees with the dictatorship that has been installed.
	So there is no more excuse he will be able to ask.
	Signing it, if they force a judge to sign it, he must resign.
	So if a judge decides to sign my arrest, that judge must know that he has signed that he is with Adolf Hitler, because that is exactly what they are doing.
	And for what they have been done, I mean, Adolf Hitler is like a mass, I mean, a servant de messe.
	A servant de messe, he is the slave of the masses?
	No, no, no, not that, no, no, I mean.
	Like masses in church.
	Yes.
	I mean, to say that those are gentle, some angels.
	I want to say that in front of what they have been doing since 2020, they are more dangerous than Adolf Hitler.
	They have been controlling the whole world, vaccinating people, doing mandates, crushing our rights.
	And they want to bring a high level of control.
	Because now with the digital currency and digital identity, people like me, because now actually they want to seize, they said that they will seize my bank account, but there is almost nothing there in my bank account.
	But if they put the digital currency, people like me will not be able to leave again.
	So it will be the total control where they want to bring us.
	Either you obey, either they seize everything.
	But, for example, in France, in 2025, nobody in France will own a house again.
	That is the project they are putting in place.
	And even in Quebec, Gabriel Nadeau Dubois presented a similar project.
	Because the price of houses are growing up, Gabriel Nadeau Dubois is a deputy, is a deputy of the opposition, because the prime minister of Quebec is François Legault.
	What he proposed is that since the prices of the houses are growing up, when you buy the house, you will just buy the house and you will not buy the land.
	But normally when a house with time, the value of a house decreases always.
	So when, for example, they say that the value of a house has increased, in reality, It is not the value of the house, it is the value of the land that is increasing.
	Because a house is always, you are using the house, it is the land that is increasing.
	So when they propose a project saying that for the price of houses to be cheap, we are going to propose a project so that you buy only the house, then if the house is $500,000, The house, it will be maybe $200.
	So the prices will be cheaper.
	Many people will be happy, oh, I bought the house.
	But no, you hold nothing because you have not bought the...
	So if there is something that happens, if that house is demolished, you will realize that you have nothing because the ground belongs to the...
	So that is where they are going, the direction they are going to.
	Buying and the value of...
	A house never increases in value.
	It is the land that is decreasing in value.
	Because if you take a same house, you bring it into a village in Africa.
	If you take a house of $1 million in New York or in Montreal Westmount, if you take that same house, you bring it into a village in Brazil.
	That house of $1 million would drop maybe to $20,000 or $30,000.
	So it is not the house, it is the land that is increasing.
	So now they want to, those are the projects they are doing, and many, many other things.
	So if people think that everything is over, they are just misleading themselves.
	And in the Parti Liberal du Québec, no, of Canada, the Liberal Party of Trudeau, The vaccine mandate is...
	They have it, the vaccine mandate.
	And they want to put the revenue universelle commune.
	Yeah, universal basic income.
	Yes.
	So that is where they are going.
	So for me, it is clear that with that in mind, I don't want to give them any agreement.
	Let them come and arrest me.
	You're never getting the universal basic income when it comes in.
	Also, if they'll give it to you, they'll seize it so they can pay off your debt to the government.
	Let me ask you this obvious question.
	Have you not thought of leaving?
	I don't know.
	Go to Cameroon, you've got family there, leave to the States?
	No, no, no.
	I will never leave.
	I will never give them that.
	Because for me, since the beginning, it is a world.
	It is a world conflict.
	And if they win here, they will win all over the world.
	So I think that the battle, even for Cameroon, starts in the Western country.
	If you take the case of COVID, in many countries, if you go to the John Hopkins Center or Medical Center...
	The people that work, because there is an official counting of COVID dead and COVID case all over the world.
	When you take many African countries, like in Cameroon, since March 2020 up till now, there have not been 2,000 COVID deaths.
	Ah, but that's because they're not counting properly, they're outdoors more often, or they have better vitamin D. I mean, they'll make up any excuse in the world.
	I understand that, but there is easily...
	We can easily counter-attack the fact that they are not counting well, because if they don't count well, it means that the number of global debt will be high.
	You understand what I mean?
	Yes, the debt-all condition will be high, but there has been no change in the...
	Excess debt.
	There is no excess debt, all costs...
	Yes.
	So if...
	There were excess deaths, and you have few COVID cases, but there is no excess deaths, meaning that even those 2,000 deaths, maybe if we really go into detail, we will say that it is not COVID deaths.
	So, I mean, what I wanted to say is that COVID mandate, all those things, they were concentrated in Western countries because they want to, if they know that if they control the United States, Canada...
	France, England, they will control the whole world, Germany.
	They will control the whole world.
	So that is why they have been concentrated.
	So for me, in my mind, running to Cameroon, knowing all what is going through, it was just like a flood is coming and I run in a place where the flood is coming in two months.
	For me, it is not being safe.
	Being safe is stay where there is flood, fight the flood, going somewhere while the flood is coming.
	So that is why, no, no, no.
	No, for me, there is no way of accepting it.
	I am convinced that we are going to win.
	I don't have any doubt.
	No time.
	Because it's not...
	My conviction is going to many, many places.
	I mean, the reason of that conviction, we don't have to go there, but one of the reasons is that they have tried it many times in the world and they have not succeeded.
	And now with many information that is coming out, they cannot...
	Keep their lives for long again.
	And one of the ways, that is why me, I'm ready.
	I don't have any problem.
	So they want to arrest me, to bring me into prison because I've not paid COVID fine.
	It means that COVID is not over.
	And they don't want to finish with that because if, for example, they decide that all COVID fine, people are, they put it away.
	The people that are starting to pay, they put it back.
	If in one year or two years they want to come with a new pandemic or if they want to come with climate change lockdowns, if they want to put fines again, people will not be afraid because people will say that you gave us back our money or you put away COVID fines.
	People will not be afraid of that because they say that in one or two years you will do the same.
	But that is why it is important for them not to put away that.
	And that is why it is important for me to challenge them on that.
	I am not paying any fine.
	Put me in prison.
	Because if they come back with climate lockdowns, the first thing I will do is that I will trespass them.
	Let me read.
	First of all, François, there was a comment in French on our Rumble site.
	It says, from Finboy Slick, votre courage est inspirant.
	Monsieur François, merci d 'être resté vous-même.
	It says, your courage is inspiring, François.
	Thank you for having stayed who you are when others were too scared to do it or to do the same.
	Let me read some comments because we got, of course, he's 100%.
	Okay, sorry.
	This is an old one.
	Thank you very much.
	It says, masks were found to cause lung disease.
	There was the article, the cavities.
	Oral hygiene problems.
	Mask mouth.
	That's if you didn't get one of the toxic masks that we talked about that we had in Quebec.
	Educated people are dangerous to the plan, was a good comment.
	Mr. Omega, I hope your students are proud of their teacher.
	You stood up for democracy.
	Yes.
	I don't think many people know your story, Francois, but they'll definitely, in such detail, they're definitely going to know it now.
	Let me see here.
	We've got bureaucrats dictating bad medical policies leads to civil unrest among the wisest of a country's citizens.
	Bravo, bravo, Francois.
	Intelligent, brave man.
	Okay, we've got a bunch of other stuff here.
	Hold on, this is...
	Okay, Francois.
	A real-life Kafka novel is what it is.
	So you're still fighting the battle, and among the global trends of madness that you've seen is...
	This transgender ideology business, which brings us right back to the beginning of this stream, where you got assaulted outside your house by what appear to be Antifa, but they're people dressed in black.
	So just tell people what happened with that video quickly and what you're working on now, what you're doing on a day-to-day now.
	Okay, on April, the 2nd of April, we had a protest in St. Catherine.
	It is a city, 30 minutes to Montreal.
	We had a protest there because there is a drag queen in Quebec that was reading stories to students, to little kids in a public bookshop with the public money.
	And they're reading the story.
	She's not reading the story of a superhero.
	No, she's reading a story that is sexually oriented and bringing gender confusion in the brain of children.
	Not only that, they are going to school also, and they are doing sexual education where they bring many...
	So, we organized a protest against that, and that was the first time we had a strong physical opposition of Antifa.
	Now, I organized another protest.
	It was on the 16th of May, last Tuesday, and that was supposed to take place in Montreal.
	On that day, the protest was supposed to take place at 5 p.m.
	No, yes, at 5 p.m.
	I left my house around some minute to three.
	And I was working to go to the, I mean, preparing to go to the protest.
	And I was attacked less than 40 meters from my house by those people.
	The video you've showed, that was the second time.
	Because I wanted to capture their image.
	It's true that many people told me that you saw the danger and how will you...
	For me, I wanted to have...
	Because the first time they attacked me, there was no evidence.
	I mean, I would have just said that people have attacked me.
	People would have said that...
	But I wanted to have a face.
	So I was gently walking.
	I knew that there would be Antifa there and they were there, about 300 of them.
	They even attacked...
	Alex of Rebel News.
	Yes.
	But I was there coming out from my house without wait.
	So they just came around me.
	They arrested me.
	They wanted to...
	Sorry, just sort of not arrest.
	I mean, they stopped you is what you mean.
	Just so nobody thinks that you're suggesting the Antifa were police.
	No, no, not the police.
	I was passing.
	So they came and said that Francois, if you can go.
	But they didn't just stop like that.
	They came, and they came around me to hold me.
	They were holding me.
	So I forced myself.
	Why forcing myself?
	I even fell on the ground.
	Not this glass.
	I was having glasses.
	They were broken.
	I was having a manteau d 'hiver.
	Yeah, winter jacket.
	Yes, but I didn't wear the jacket because it was not cold.
	It was only that it was raining a little bit.
	So I just put it like a veil on top of me.
	And I was having a bag on my back.
	So during all that movement, I fell on the ground.
	I woke up and I was even shouting, which means help me, help me in French.
	Yes.
	One guy even came.
	Finally, they ran away.
	My glass was broken.
	And when all those things happened, I was just, I took my phone and I decided to do a live streaming on Twitter to capture, to have.
	An image.
	I was hoping to have one face.
	But while I was standing, they were coming behind me.
	So when they saw that I was filming, they started barking.
	But for me, I really wanted to have one face.
	So the attack happened again.
	Until that time, I shouted again.
	Finally, one of them took my phone because they were all around me, arresting me.
	They ran in all directions when one succeeded to take the phone.
	I ran behind him, but I was having the back that was slowing me down.
	So that is where they went away.
	So I went into my house.
	I posted a message on Twitter.
	And I decided to go to my car.
	I realized that they have...
	They slashed for your tires.
	Yes, because they know my car.
	So even in St. Catherine, they slashed one tire.
	But this time, they slashed all the four ones.
	So I was a bit disoriented.
	I am not having a phone.
	All the four tires are slashed.
	I went back to the house and not knowing what to do.
	And people were calling me.
	People that saw the video, they were calling me through messenger.
	And I'm sure that people have tried to call me through the phone, but I was not having the phone.
	And that was a very, very difficult day.
	But while Alexa called me through messenger, finally I asked her if she can bring a taxi.
	So I took the taxi, I tried to get another phone, and I went to the protest place.
	And it was a very difficult day.
	I was not imagining that they can come to my house, attack me inside.
	I mean, it was like...
	40, 30 meters from my house.
	And it's funny because a few people I knew saw the video and they're like, because some people thought you were French and like, oh, that's France.
	I was like, dude, that's Montreal.
	I know where that is.
	It's Montreal.
	It is in Montreal.
	It has just happened.
	And they were in La Maison de la Famille where we were supposed to have the protests.
	There were like 200 to 300 Antifa there.
	You could see, for example, Alexa, how they attacked her.
	They attacked Alexa physically.
	I mean, they were just coming close.
	I mean, that is their tactics.
	I mean, and when they are doing it, they are doing it too close to the police and the police is doing nothing.
	It's really interesting.
	We saw what the Vancouver police did with Billboard Chris.
	Nothing.
	They sit there laughing and then say that you're antagonizing, Francois, by exercising your constitutional rights to protest.
	And now they are pushing that transgender program.
	It is really, I mean, when you realize it, you realize that the program is that if one of the human characteristics somebody is sure of.
	Is that I'm a boy or I'm a girl?
	So that is one of the things they want to destroy.
	So they are exploiting the confusion that can be in a child because it is normal.
	When you are growing, you don't know what type of job you will do.
	You don't know if you can...
	I mean, a child is by nature confused and trying to find his way in this world.
	But we adults, we are supposed to...
	To strengthen the conviction of the children, not to play on that confusion.
	And that is why they are downplaying it.
	And it has a lot of consequences because there are many people that have done surgery and they regret it.
	A lot of people that have done surgery and they regret it.
	And it is not good.
	It is a global agenda because, I mean, for me, it is the first step of transhumanism.
	We must put children away of that.
	If adult people, if a man who is 30 or 40 years old decides to do it, let him do it.
	But let's put children away of that.
	We must not confuse children.
	And also, we did insanity saying that there are only two sex.
	Even the LGBTQ prove it.
	Because I have to be clear.
	I'm a black.
	But Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization.
	It's dangerous.
	They are working out to divide the society.
	And it is the same thing.
	The LGBTQ movement is a movement in the same way.
	And they are not even helping the gay.
	They are not helping them.
	That movement is like a dangerous terrorist movement that are going to school to...
	Push an agenda and to destroy children.
	To put sexuality...
	I mean, sexuality is not something you have to push children to that.
	When children are early into that, it's confused and destroyed them.
	And there is something I always tell to the people.
	When they say that there are many genders, what is L?
	L is a woman that sleeps with women.
	What is J?
	J is a man that sleeps with men.
	What is B?
	It is somebody who speaks with the two sexes.
	It means that there are only two sexes.
	Two.
	I mean, even though LGB show that there are only two genders.
	So what they want to manufacture with Q, trans, all those things, it is nonsense.
	It is nonsense.
	And what is funny is that, Trudeau, if you want to make any civil servant, two fonctionnaires fédéraux, les fonctionnaires fédéraux, Civil servants, federal civil servants, or federal employees.
	If you want to make a surgery, you have $75,000 that the government gives you.
	So Trudeau gives $75,000 to all Canadians who want to have transition surgery.
	And all what they are doing, they are putting in place things that are promoting...
	Death.
	Only death.
	All over.
	Even promoting such sexual disorder, we need baby.
	We need population, actually.
	The world is decreasing.
	There is a serious article that said that in 2064, the population of the world will reach the top and will start decreasing.
	And it is a serious problem in many parts of the world.
	Many parts.
	There is a speech Donald Trump did on 13th of March.
	He said that we need baby boom.
	On the 13th of March, 2023, he made a speech.
	You can find it.
	In that speech, he said that we need a baby boom.
	And many countries have that problem.
	Because in many countries of the world, the population is becoming older and there is a lot, a small...
	In Japan, the problem is so serious in Japan that they are making applications so that people can meet and have babies.
	Because it's serious now.
	Because in Quebec, the number of babies is decreasing.
	And they are promoting things that is only no responsibility, not creating life and all those things.
	While at the same time, I think that normally a country like Canada is supposed to encourage women to have babies.
	It is easy.
	For example, if a woman is a teacher and is having $70,000 per month, per year, for me, what I propose is that when she's pregnant, she have during from the seven months of the pregnancy.
	Until the time the baby is 18 months old, they have to increase her salary from 1.5.
	Meaning that if she's having $70,000 per month because of that, during that time, she must have 105 just to encourage women to have babies.
	They want to reduce the population.
	They want to control.
	They want to do all those things.
	It is in many, many aspects.
	We must not accept that.
	And then they use the population decrease or the people not having babies as an excuse for mass immigration.
	The incompetence seems to be interconnected for the broader plan, which is what people are arguing over.
	We're unclear about that, but I think very few people would disagree with your observations right now, even if they disagree with some aspect of it.
	Francois, let's ask the obvious question.
	First of all, where can people find you and how can they support you if they want to help you without fearing the government seizing whatever support they give you to pay off your $70,000?
	Where can people find you?
	What can they do to help you?
	I have a Facebook account, but...
	That Facebook account is Shadowban.
	Completely.
	Actually, I'm even blocked.
	They blocked me this morning for 30 days again.
	I'm always blocked.
	So one of the most places where I can be active now is generally in Twitter.
	Since Elon Musk took Twitter, there I...
	So it is Amalega Francois, like my name, in Twitter.
	There is a...
	I've realized that it's like there are some other accounts with my name, but...
	In my account, my picture is there.
	And the first word is that, j 'attends avec impatience le retour de Jésus.
	That is the description there.
	That is my Twitter account.
	And also, I am in Telegram with the same name.
	But I am in Facebook and Instagram, but those are...
	Those are dead social media platforms.
	Yes, those are dead.
	I mean, you cannot do something serious there.
	I've been blocked this morning because there is, in Quebec, I think for the last past weeks, there is 79% of surmortalité.
	Yeah, excess deaths.
	Excess deaths from 0 to 49. So I wrote, I said that dying at the age of less than 50 years.
	It's something that is very disturbing in Quebec where the age expectancy is above 80 years, but it has become a common thing in Quebec to die.
	You know what?
	Gosh darn it.
	It drives me nuts that there's still stuff that is news to me.
	Hold on.
	Let me bring this up.
	We're just going to end with this here.
	Just so that no one thinks it's you making this up.
	Okay, so we got, this is Dr. Lisa Yanatone.
	Go check her credentials, people.
	McGill Med.
	Let's see here.
	Checking in on excess mortality in Quebec.
	Data up to early April 2023, now available.
	Excess mortality in 0 to 49-year-olds has yet to slow down.
	Week of April 1, 59% excess death.
	I presume that means it's up.
	Week of April 8, 71% excess death.
	Folks, that is the single worst week.
	Of the entire pandemic.
	I'm going to go look into that right now, Francois.
	All right.
	And I've shared your Twitter handle.
	Let me ask you another question.
	The last one.
	Last one, Francois.
	Holy cows.
	Okay, everybody, we're not getting to the two other subjects.
	I'll do those tomorrow or the day after.
	Are you...
	I mean, what do you do to keep safe from the bad players here?
	How do you avoid having another confrontation with these people who have now shown the willingness to show up outside your house?
	First of all, I would try to leave the house where I am to go somewhere else.
	I think that is very important.
	I don't know if the...
	Because the two protests, the two times they attacked me, it was a protest that was concerning the drag queen and the hypersexualization of children and gender.
	Those transgender and all those things.
	I don't know if they will attack me when I will have protests concerning digital currency because, I mean, we are preparing, we have to do things concerning that because it is something serious coming, 50-minute cities and digital currency and all that because if they succeed that one, they really, they have closed up everything.
	But, I mean, for now, I'm...
	It's not very easy, but I'm trying to stay safe.
	It's true that I'm going to a protest in Jonquière.
	He's a fairy farm from Montreal.
	We have a protest there with some people concerning also the drug show and all those things.
	But at least I will try not to be alone in some particular places.
	And we will see.
	It's not easy, but it is a battle.
	We have to fight.
	We don't have to submit.
	We have to be in a place where freedom of speech, freedom of democracy is really, really there.
	There is no debate.
	They are telling lies all over, for example, with the climate.
	That is a really sad thing, obvious, a very obvious lie concerning climate.
	But they don't want to have any debate of that.
	For me, it's not possible to stop saying it, because just saying that I will go and teach math and not speaking about those obvious things of the society where they are destroying the science, the knowledge, and all those things, we don't have a future with that.
	There are two simple things I can say, for example.
	For the COVID, during the first, second, and third wave, the...
	The average age of a COVID dead was like 83 years old.
	The life expectancy was 82 years old.
	Meaning that when you catch COVID, your age expectancy increased.
	But they were telling us that there was a pandemic.
	And the people that were dying were in CHSLD.
	Yeah, long-term health facilities.
	Yes.
	And the second thing for the climate, for example, I have yesterday, for example, when you see the composition of the atmosphere, the composition, Are they calling it atmosphere in English?
	Yeah, I think it's atmosphere, but the air.
	The air, yes.
	It is 78% of azote, 21% of oxygen, 1% of argon.
	So when you sum it up, it's something already close to 100%, but there is 0.04% of the oxygen.
	And in that small percentage, the one that is caused by a human being is 0.0001%, meaning that even if we succeed to close all the human carbon, it will not change the composition of the dorsal carbon in the atmosphere.
	Because the carbon is produced in many other aspects, not only the human one.
	So when you see the contribution of the human being in the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, even if you reduce it to zero, what is impossible?
	Only if you kill all human beings.
	It will not change anything.
	So it is a lie.
	And when they speak in French, they call it la carboneutralité.
	Carbon neutralities means emitting no carbon, I guess.
	Yes, if we reach it, it means that they want to kill the life on Earth.
	Also, I think there's a lot of people who might be inclined to agree with you now in terms of that being what the end goal is here.
	Not that I'm saying it is, people.
	I'm just saying I'm a little just more realistic.
	I think it's just, you know...
	It won't change the air composition, but it'll certainly change the composition of power and who yields and controls the power over the masses.
	And when you listen to what...
	What's his name?
	The Israeli guy.
	Harari?
	Johan Harari.
	Yeah.
	When you listen to what that guy has to say about getting people just hooked up to medication and computer games to find meaning in life because every meaning of life has been denied to them.
	It's tough not to be cynical.
	Francois, I think if anybody does not know who you are or did not know who you are, they now know.
	Here, this one here.
	I'll say it.
	I'm going to make this my thought.
	Stay strong, Amalaga.
	Amalaga, which is the last name.
	You'll be a historic icon in the future if they don't burn all the books.
	We'll see.
	Burning digital, it's much easier to do.
	It makes no smoke.
	It's carbon neutral to burn books in the digital era.
	Francois, we will stay in touch.
	I might be back in Montreal.
	I'm going to be back in Montreal sooner than later.
	Hopefully, we can meet up in person.
	Amazing stuff.
	Stick around here.
	We'll say our proper goodbyes after I end the stream.
	I'll post your Twitter feed up there so everybody can help you.
	I'll think about stuff that I can...
	Stuff that people can do practically to help you and to keep fighting the good fight.
	But thank you very much.
	You've done some crazy stuff, man.
	It's a story that needs to be memorialized, and I hope we've done a good job of that here.
	And thank you for staying an hour and a half longer than anticipated.
	Everybody, enjoy the day, people.
	Sidebar tomorrow night, Yay on Me Park, Thursday.
	And Friday is going to be Zachariah's brother, Solomon Anderson.
	And maybe another interview Friday morning.
	So stay tuned, everybody.
	Francois, stick around.
	We'll see our proper advice.
	Everyone out there, peace out.
	Enjoy the day.

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