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Feb. 22, 2023 - Viva & Barnes

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Sidebar with That Star Wars Girl! Viva & Barnes LIVE!

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	Look at the way Joe Biden is walking.
	Look at the stiffness in his walk.
	Look at his head.
	He has no idea what's going on.
	Okay.
	People, it was either I start with...
	Oh, I know what I wanted to show you.
	The tweet said, Dark Brandon.
	It was an unironic tweet.
	Did I close the window?
	I closed the window.
	Hold on one second.
	Let me just...
	Now, I got to bring it back up because the tweet was what was joyous about this because we're not talking politics tonight, so I got to get it out of my system before we get started.
	By the way, I know that I'm forgetting something.
	We'll see what it is that I'm forgetting in a second.
	Hold on.
	It was the tweet.
	Dark Brandon.
	Some people are trying to use Dark Brandon and make it a reality of a compliment and not an ironic insult.
	Dark Brandon went to Kiev today to deliver a message to our friends in Ukraine while the air raid sirens blared.
	Nobody messes with democracy or America's allies and gets away with it.
	Nobody.
	I swear to you, I thought this was a joke because I thought from the picture it was someone who looks like Brooklyn dad defiant.
	But it's not.
	They're trying to make a serious...
	Intimidating, glorious thing out of Dark Brandon.
	It's not going to happen.
	Dark Brandon is not going to stick as anything but, not an insult, but an ironic, sarcastic label.
	Now, we're not talking politics tonight, so I had to get it out of the system.
	And it was either I start with that or I start with something with Justin Trudeau.
	So I didn't want to make everyone gag.
	Now, you may know that I'm not in my home office studio.
	That being said, I'm not in a bathroom either.
	I'm at an event, and it's on the Gulf Coast.
	And I just witnessed a sunset that was surreal.
	Unobstructed view of the sun setting into the ocean.
	And it looked like for a brief second that there was something physically sitting on the ocean.
	It looked like an igloo.
	That was glowing orange.
	That was the sun.
	It looked like a melting ball of ice cream melting into the ocean.
	And all of you know that I'm trying to win that GoPro Million Dollar Challenge again.
	I think I may have gotten the winning shot tonight.
	But that is it.
	Now, I also know I'm forgetting something because I drove the entire day across the Florida Wang, or the Panhandle as they call it.
	I saw a forest fire in the distance.
	I drove down Alligator Alley.
	I actually saw an alligator in one of the canals on the way down.
	It was beautiful.
	Hooker's in the closet.
	No, there's no...
	Not that I know of.
	It's not that kind of hotel.
	Although, who knows?
	Who knows what happens?
	No.
	So...
	Yeah, Sarasota.
	Natalia Clendon.
	Sarasota.
	The sun...
	It was...
	It looked like something physical sitting on the ocean that I could go out and touch.
	And I could understand if someone came across that...
	Back in the olden days, they could have thought it was actually like something out of the abyss, like aliens birthing out of the ocean.
	Anyhow, it was beautiful.
	Everyone's in the chat here.
	Tonight, people, it's one of those things where Barnes introduces me to somebody, and I had never known them, like Nerdrotic, like Razor Fist, not Razor Fist, Iron...
	No, it was Razor Fist, like Razor Fist.
	And I spent the better part of the drive today listening to that Star Wars girl review and talk about things that I have never seen.
	So, but I did go back to the most popular videos, the oldest videos, and it's going to be fun.
	Oh, no.
	Now I have a sea of embarrassment.
	Now I'm going to bring in Barnes first.
	Robert, sir, I should have given you a heads up.
	And now, how's it going?
	Long time no see.
	Okay, now I'm going to bring in that Star Wars girl, but I'm going down here so that if I bring up a chat.
	Hello from the homeland, Viva.
	Crypto Beauty.
	All right.
	We are live, and we are going, and that Star Wars girl, ordinarily I say, give us a 30,000-foot overview, although most people in our chat probably know who you are.
	Now, based on the chat, a lot of people know who you are, but I suspect there might be more people proportionately tonight who might not know who you are.
	30,000-foot overview before I delve into your childhood and see how it is you came to be doing what you're doing today.
	Well, hello everyone.
	My name is Anna.
	I'm known online as that Star Wars girl.
	And as you can imagine, I talk about Star Wars.
	And many, many other things.
	I don't do the whole political stuff.
	I actually am very anti-politics on my channel.
	That's like a big rule is no politics.
	Because politics are what ruin the things that I love, like Star Wars.
	And I saw The Last Jedi many years ago, and I was physically angry.
	Got a million questions from everyone that I ever knew in my entire life.
	And they're like, what do you mean you don't like a Star Wars movie?
	And I made a video just to answer everyone's questions, and none of them watched it, but a lot of lovely people on the internet did, and I'm still talking about it today.
	So that's kind of my backstory.
	So you grew up a nerd?
	Yes.
	Bart's getting right to the chase.
	And I've got to ask, like, That's one heck of a backdrop you've got there.
	Are those figurines or are those posters?
	Those are all real.
	Okay.
	So what is the aggregate cost of that?
	If you had to tally it up, that burns behind you.
	How much money just got set on fire?
	A lot.
	A lot, a lot.
	But so, let's see.
	So you probably can't see it.
	I don't actually have wall space because all of it is like unboxed action, or excuse me, boxed action figures.
	And then there's the ones that are open.
	I have some hot toys.
	Well, I guess you can only see one right here.
	I have a couple right over there.
	I'm in the process of changing it up because I actually have much more stuff that won't fit up on my walls.
	And just a lot.
	A lot.
	I've always been curious about it because you have cute little baby Yoda and then it's Halloween guy and the lambs.
	How does that combination come about?
	So I'm actually an oil painter.
	So those are paintings.
	I used to do like art, not art conventions, but I used to do Halloween conventions because my birthday is Halloween.
	And there's this really cool convention in Long Beach called Midsummer Scream.
	And so I was there the very first one that they had.
	And I had like a booth with all of my paintings.
	But I was like.
	Oh, shoot.
	I don't have any work that reflects horror movies because I'm the biggest scaredy cat in the world.
	I don't watch horror movies, except I do love Silence of the Lambs.
	Aside from Star Wars, that's my favorite movie.
	But I did an entire collection of horror villains.
	And so I have a ton.
	One of the biggest jokes on my channel was I had to complete 12 paintings before this show.
	And so I was in the mountains camping.
	So just like imagine like the Sierra Nevada mountains, beautiful landscapes.
	And I'm sitting there painting Chucky.
	And so, yeah, that's one of my friend's favorite stories.
	People would come up to see the mountains and the lake and they'd be, I'm just painting Chucky.
	If I came across someone in the Sierra Nevadas, or anywhere for that matter, hiking or camping and painting Chucky, I'd have some questions.
	But the dude looking over your shoulder like a pervert there on your...
	Oh, Harrison Ford!
	Is that Harrison Ford?
	So...
	Story behind that, when I graduated high school, there was a lot of people, and my best friend's mom wanted us to see our families in the stadium.
	So she printed out David Beckham's head for my best friend, and she printed out Han Solo for my family.
	So my family had Han Solo's head, and their family had David Beckham's.
	So that's that.
	How early was the influence of things like Star Wars?
	When did you get into it?
	Two years old.
	Really?
	Wow.
	Now, do you remember that as two or did other people have told you?
	So, my memories kind of start fading when I was five.
	And, like, usually when kids start remembering things is where my memories fade.
	I remember everything before that.
	I mean, I have memories when I couldn't even speak.
	And I remember being frustrated because I wanted to pet ducks.
	And I couldn't communicate to my mom and my grandma that I wanted to pet the ducks.
	And I didn't realize until much later.
	I was like, oh, I couldn't even talk then.
	But I saw Star Wars because my parents decided, I don't know why, to have another baby.
	And so they left me at my aunt's house.
	And my aunt only had like one princess movie because I was obsessed with princess movies.
	And she's like, and I can't watch this movie one more time.
	And I was one of those kids that would scream.
	Like I would sit in front of the TV and scream.
	And so...
	She's like, well, what about this movie?
	And I was like, no, I don't want to watch that.
	What about this movie?
	I don't want to watch that.
	She's like, what about Star Wars?
	I was like, no, I don't want to watch that.
	She's like, there's a princess.
	And I was like, turn it on right now.
	And so she kind of just shut me in a room and turned on Star Wars.
	And I've been a fan ever since.
	Now, I'm going to challenge you on the memory.
	Is it a memory that you genuinely think you have?
	Or is it a story that your parents and grandparents?
	Oh, I remember it.
	Well, my nephew now will be a huge fan.
	Well, one of my nephews will.
	My two nephews got into a huge argument, a huge drag out argument here in Vegas, over whether or not someone can remember something from before the age of light, before they could talk.
	And my nephew, Cody, insists absolutely that he remembers it crystal clear.
	My other nephew, Sean, was like, no, no, no.
	Someone told you that.
	You can't remember.
	It's a planted memory.
	But you remember it crystal clear from that time period.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I mean, my parents weren't there, obviously.
	My dad...
	Picked me up and he remembers like me being like, I want to get a lightsaber.
	And he's like, my daughter that will only play with Barbies all of a sudden wants a lightsaber, you know?
	And then my aunt wasn't in the room because she kind of locked me in there.
	And I actually reminded her that she was the one that showed me Star Wars.
	So, yeah, I don't know why my memories when I got to five kind of just fade.
	But I remember everything before that.
	That's fair.
	I can't remember anything before the age of 10, and I'm not sure if it's because of things I did when I was 15, but no memories before 10, and no memories more modern.
	They go away quickly.
	Anna, that Star Wars girl, can I ask where you're from, what your parents did, how many siblings you had?
	I don't ask the question how old people are, but if you wanted to give me a generational perspective.
	I'm nine.
	That's the canon on my channel is that I'm nine years old.
	So that way, whenever anyone gives me shit about all my toys, I'm like, I'm nine, it's okay.
	When you said nine, I immediately heard German like, nine, I'm not answering that.
	But okay, that's a better joke.
	No, no, no.
	So I'm in my 20s.
	My mother owned an antique store.
	She was an antique dealer.
	She's her own version of like a historian.
	I remember when I was a kid.
	Oh, my God.
	I remember this because I was only allowed to bring two action figures with me, and that's the only reason I remember this memory.
	We went to go.
	It was the longest drive ever.
	Oh, I'm from California.
	So we went from, like, where we lived in the Central Valley of California to Northern California to go look at some stupid desk that was on the Mayflower.
	And I only remember seeing that stupid desk because I could only take two toys with me.
	And that was, I think it was three.
	But then after, oh, siblings.
	I had three.
	Now I only have two.
	I have a brother who's older than me by 17 years, and I had two younger sisters.
	Now I have one younger sister.
	So I'm the oldest of my father's children, and I'm the second oldest of my mother's children.
	My father was a farmer and owned a trucking business.
	Now, what was it like?
	For your generation, what was being a Star Wars nerd like?
	What was that like for your generation?
	Growing up.
	Was it normal?
	Abnormal?
	Abnormal because the prequels were coming out.
	So all of the toys, like Star Wars had its own toy aisle in every store and sometimes even two toy aisles.
	So that was pretty normal.
	But I feel like that was more the prequels and you had to, I don't know, make friends with certain kids that would have watched the originals.
	But it was kind of a big thing because they were still coming out when I was a kid.
	But I would always be able to talk with it with my dad or my older brother, and I got all of his hand-me-down toys because he was a kid when the originals were coming out.
	So did it feel like, for some people growing up, being a Star Wars fan, etc., that you're more culturally, you're part of a nerd clique, kind of like Stranger Things, you know what I mean?
	That's kind of like the 80s, much earlier generation.
	So that's why I was curious how much it was.
	Everybody's kind of doing this.
	It wasn't like they were really in-depth knowledgeable.
	It was kind of just one of the things that you watched.
	But I was definitely one of the weirder ones that was really, really into it.
	A lot of my friends were really into Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon and Pokemon.
	That was really big when I was a kid.
	Or video games.
	Are you a gamer?
	Recently.
	I was never allowed to play video games because my mom didn't want to buy them.
	So I've only recently dipped into video games.
	He was a master at a couple of video games.
	I finished Contra a clean run.
	I don't even have to use the 30-man.
	I finished without losing a man.
	Sub-15 minutes.
	And what else?
	I could do the Mario Brothers in under 5, give or take, if I skip levels.
	But Anna, you say you're in your 20s.
	Let me just push a little more on that.
	Pre-9-11 or post-9-11?
	I remember it, and I told my dad to turn it off because the effects looked bad.
	Okay.
	So that pinpoints a little bit.
	And so you kind of grew up on Tarantino then?
	Tarantino is your generation.
	Tarantino's a little early.
	A little bit early.
	I'm a huge Tarantino fan.
	I didn't watch any of it until I was older because, well, my mom didn't like Pulp Fiction.
	She just...
	Now understands it because I had to explain it to her.
	But I remember being at Blockbuster and I really wanted to rent Inglourious Bastards.
	And the guy talked my parents out of renting it.
	And then I watched it like five years later and I was like, that mofo.
	This is a great movie.
	This is one of my favorite movies of his.
	But I really like Reservoir Dogs.
	That one's my favorite.
	But Inglourious Bastards is so good.
	Did you guys have Blockbuster Canada Viva?
	We had something called Movie Land, and interesting story.
	Movie Land was like Blockbuster, but there were a couple of them near us.
	Movie Land had VHS.
	They fined you $3 if you didn't rewind the video before returning it.
	Be kind, rewind.
	You two may not know this movie reference, but back in the day, Movie Land...
	Had this thing called Faces of Death.
	In retrospect, now I sort of appreciate that the video was sometimes reenacted.
	It wasn't exactly what it purported to be.
	But one of the guys who worked behind the counter at MovieLand asked me if I wanted to rent a movie called A Serbian Film.
	Oh, no.
	I said no.
	I said no, because I didn't know what it was.
	Then I looked it up, and then I said, what the hell did this guy offer this to me for?
	What vibe did I give off?
	And now you can't find that movie anywhere.
	But no, Reservoir Dogs was not the most violent movie that I've ever seen, but one of them at the time.
	I remember my mother let me watch it when I was eight.
	And it might be one of my younger memories.
	I remember watching it while I was playing hooky from school in the reflection of the bathtub mirror.
	And I was like, that's a violent movie.
	What the heck is my mother thinking?
	But how did your mother not like Pulp Fiction?
	Did she not get the non-temporal sequential aspect of it?
	Yeah, well, I mean...
	Or was it the gimp?
	No, we've never watched it together.
	I remember when DVDs came out, we had the fancy DVD.
	Remember when it would open and there's the bonus features and it has the special box it would go in?
	We had that, but for some reason, she's like, it's terrible.
	I'm like, then why did you buy it?
	But I just had a conversation with her about it and her just not...
	She's like, what is that movie even about?
	And I'm like...
	It's about fate and how he followed God's message and he was able to save himself by listening to what God put in front of him.
	And she's like, oh, really?
	I'm like, yes.
	Everyone has their own.
	Did you grow up religious at all?
	No.
	My dad was raised Catholic.
	My mom was Protestant.
	This is one of those gray areas that I don't talk about on my channel because I like Star Wars.
	Star Wars is something that can be enjoyed.
	Anyone in the world can watch it from any religious background, any political background, and enjoy it.
	So I try to keep that personal stuff off my channel just because I don't want people to say that I have a bias.
	So I try to keep that information just private.
	And Anna, when did you start your YouTube channel?
	Like right after The Last Jedi.
	Are you okay?
	Yeah, I'm fine.
	I gotta call.
	And now let the Rona jokes infiltrate the chat.
	After The Last Jedi, I have no idea when that was.
	I don't remember.
	All the years kind of blend together to me now.
	Pre-COVID.
	You started pre-COVID?
	Yeah, pre-COVID.
	Yeah, it was...
	I think I released my video in December or January right after I saw The Last Jedi because it came out right before Christmas.
	So...
	It was either 2017 or 2018, I think.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	I'd have to go look.
	Because back in the day, and I remember the early days of my channel, but it had nothing to do with law.
	It was like a bad Casey Neistat channel.
	And I never wanted to talk politics.
	And I remember one time someone made a random political joke and I said, no politics, please.
	And then they said, I don't know why I waste my time on this stupid little channel of yours.
	And at some point, and I think it was before I met Barnes.
	It was when I was just doing my law stuff.
	And I said, I'll just do law stuff.
	I won't talk politics.
	Then I realized politics infiltrates and destroys everything.
	And I think you might be getting wise to that.
	So we'll see if the evolution of the channels continues.
	But you start a channel.
	First of all, what did you study?
	Did you go to university?
	Did you study?
	How do you get into, at such a young age, starting a YouTube channel that actually culminates into what you have today?
	Well, the YouTube channel was completely on accident.
	I tried uploading my video onto Facebook, but it was over 40 minutes, and it wouldn't, so I had to upload it onto YouTube.
	And once you upload and press public, other people can find it.
	And so, like I said, everyone that I tagged that was my friends and family, I don't think any of them watched it, but everyone else did, and they asked me to make more videos, so I made more videos.
	But I actually went to school for art.
	So I have a degree in concept art for animated movies, AAA gaming, and live action TV stuff.
	So I can do all of that stuff.
	I need to parse that.
	You have a degree in concept art?
	It's called visual development.
	Actually, how I got into it was from Star Wars.
	So George Lucas kind of made that a...
	Kind of the standard in moviemaking.
	So when he pitched Star Wars, nobody could really picture it in his head.
	So he went and found Ralph McQueary.
	So Ralph McQueary, he was one of the designers for Boeing.
	Do them sketches of all of their airplanes and stuff.
	And George met Ralph and he said, hey, can you do me these sketches?
	It's like alien or androids and robots on this desert planet.
	And then there's this guy fighting a cyborg and they have laser swords.
	And so Ralph did all of these paintings.
	So that way, when George went to go pitch to business people that aren't, you know, creatively inclined, that can't picture these kind of things, he had these visual aids to go with him.
	So that's kind of when.
	Concept art became kind of a keystone in the whole production pipeline.
	And so I saw that in the making of Star Wars and was like, I can do that.
	Let's do that.
	And so I went to college for it.
	Is it like a two-year degree, a three-year degree, 72 credits?
	Four years.
	You had something in, it was art or photography, Beba.
	I studied philosophy, which is the second most useless degree after, what's the one they call for religious studies?
	There's always, when they talk about useless degrees, there's always religious studies and another one, and then philosophy.
	But then I went into law.
	That's the useful degree.
	But concept art, it sounds like a specialty of a degree in and of itself in four years.
	Yeah.
	And you finished it, and after that, you discover the YouTubes.
	Well, after that, I was working, and so, how to put this?
	Artists are very touchy to work with.
	And so I found that doing freelance was a lot less of a headache.
	And I got to pick my own hours.
	I got to pick what projects I worked with.
	So because I had a network of people from being in college and meeting everyone and just talking and becoming friends with people and my work kind of speaks for itself.
	So I was doing all that already at home and working on all these different projects.
	Yeah, it happened on accident and just kind of became a thing.
	Had you drawn before that?
	Yeah, I don't think I was very good.
	I mean, my parents thought I was.
	I was always painting.
	I really enjoy painting.
	I enjoy painting much more than I enjoy drawing.
	But I went to college, obviously, to get better.
	And ironically, even though it's an art degree, I have science.
	It's like a degree of art and science.
	Because I learned all the computer programs and how to use all this fancy-schmancy equipment.
	And then I ended up just talking about Star Wars Online.
	I've often argued that our canon for American generations, Gen X and later, is culture, is film, is television.
	That we replaced Homer's Odyssey and the great old writings that maybe people have grown up with in generations past with certain iconic films, certain iconic series, certain iconic television, some degree comic books.
	What was it about The Last Jedi that So motivated you to feel the need to communicate to people, this is an outrage.
	Have you seen it?
	Well, yes, yes, I have.
	I mean, I shared the outrage.
	I wasn't as hardcore as a Star Wars fan as some others were, but it would seem to be a turning point.
	Like a lot of current cultural commentators and the interest in that sort of space, you could almost time its beginning.
	You could time a little bit of it all the way back to Gamergate, but another part of it you can tie to The Last Jedi.
	That reaction to it, response to it, it felt like such a betrayal of a core value system, a core set of icons, a certain set of things that they represent.
	I mean, you often have the inclusion of the original Luke Skywalker pointing out that this was a preposterous interpretation of it before he tried to hedge it.
	Explain what motivated you to...
	Become almost a semi-public figure explaining why this is such an abomination.
	Well, I mean, again, the whole public figure stuff happened completely on accident.
	I just, I loved Star Wars my whole life.
	And it'd be like somebody doing a documentary on your life and getting everything about it wrong.
	Like, first off, they cast a female to play you.
	And, you know, it's like your life story, but it's about, it's a woman, and I don't know where you grew up, but think about the exact opposite side of the planet, and just everything is wrong.
	I mean, they opened the movie with the Yo Mama joke, and the whole argument that Star Wars was funny, or there was always comedy in Star Wars, I'm like, the art of subtlety is lost.
	Also, for it to be funny, it has to be funny.
	Like, it wasn't funny, it was...
	Absolutely insulting.
	And that was one of the things about watching Star Wars is obviously the Empire was...
	Am I allowed to say?
	Oh, swear what you want.
	Oh, this is on Rumble, isn't it?
	Don't worry.
	Go.
	Swear.
	Swear.
	Oh, no.
	I was going to say, like, Nazi, you know?
	Oh, don't worry about that.
	You can't say that on YouTube.
	You've got to censor it.
	If YouTube censors that, I'm going to claim anti-Semitism.
	So, okay.
	I'm joking.
	Well, the Empire, obviously, George was taking from World War II and World War I. He was a big, big history buff.
	So obviously, when you deal with people like Darth Vader, like the Empire, that's serious stuff.
	And even the way you look at him.
	So doing a Yo Mama joke, they would just kill you.
	There wouldn't be any joking around like that.
	You would die.
	And so having a Yo Mama joke right there, it's just...
	It just takes any kind of stakes out of it.
	And it's like, if you want us to really emotionally connect and worry about these people that are going to get, you know, their whole entire base is going to get destroyed by the First Order.
	But you make jokes about them like there's no consequences.
	So it's not funny.
	And it just takes you out of the movie.
	And then the second you get to Luke Skywalker and he throws that lightsaber over his shoulder, I was like, I'm done.
	Like, there was a kid sitting next to me and I think I, like, dropped an F-bomb right there.
	And I remember a kid sitting next to me and he was like, what's going on?
	She doesn't like it.
	What's going on?
	She loves Star Wars.
	What if someone says, you're analyzing this more than it deserves to be analyzed?
	Now, I say that as a joke because you're right about what makes things contextually funny and what makes them implausible to the point it's not funny.
	I guess I answered the question.
	The original trilogy, or the prequels, the original prequels, were earth-shattering, life-forming, life-altering, and then you see them get absolutely decimated by the prequels, or I don't know.
	Sequels.
	Is it a sequel, or was it the prequels?
	The ones that came out, did they come out before the original three, time-wise?
	Are you talking about the ones that came out in the 2000s, like the 90s and 2000s, or the ones I'm talking about?
	The first three were 4, 5, and 6. Yes.
	To actually come out in the 70s and 80s.
	And then they came out with 1, 2, and 3, which were okay, maybe not great.
	And then Disney took over, and Disney basically desecrated it in the process.
	Okay, sorry.
	So I left off when they released the one in 99 with...
	The prequels.
	Yeah, what's her name?
	Say it again.
	With Liam Neeson?
	Liam Neeson and the female actress was from Black Swan?
	Natalie Portman.
	Natalie Portman.
	I don't remember it being woke as in insulting.
	I just remember it being boring as in I woke up at the credits and missed the entire movie.
	But I never liked the first three in as much as people do, but I appreciate that they were defining movies.
	I know you don't like talking politics, but what ruins it?
	And how do you avoid addressing what ruins it without engaging in discussion that you don't want that might alienate some of your crowd?
	Well, you can have a movie that is full of politics and still have it be interesting and intriguing, and even if you don't agree with the politics, you could still watch it and enjoy it.
	The problem that I have is that it was completely malicious.
	If Rian Johnson would have just came out and said, guys, this was my vision, this was the story that I had inside of me, and I just wanted to create this artistic vision, you might not like it, but I wouldn't be able to sleep with myself at night if I didn't make my vision.
	That'd be, I'd respect it.
	I think he's an idiot.
	But, you know, all right.
	You know, not everyone makes good art.
	But he didn't do that.
	He's like, no, everything I did was perfect.
	And everyone that doesn't like it is a bot or misogynistic man baby that lives in their mother's basement.
	And I'm over here like, what?
	So that's the part that really, really bugs me.
	It wasn't about creating art.
	It was about making stuff that would just.
	Basically be an ATM for them, and then insulting anyone that points out their flaws.
	And this is how I explain it to normies, that maybe say, Anna, you're overanalyzing this, and I just say, what if somebody made your life story a documentary on you, and they got everything about you wrong?
	Wouldn't you be kind of upset?
	And everyone usually is like, oh yeah, I kind of see your point.
	I'm like, exactly.
	Yeah, I mean, it's like any canon.
	I mean, any cultural canon that are your iconic images and ideas that reflect certain values and virtues growing up that sort of shape your perception of sort of good and right in the world to a certain degree, right and wrong, etc.
	If you go through and just desecrate those characters, desecrate the ideals those characters represent, that's going to be very damaging to the culture and damaging not just the fans, but it has broader and bigger meaning.
	I mean, what Andrew Breitbart said long ago, which is politics is...
	Downstream from culture.
	Culture starts first, and many people still undervalue and underappreciate that reality.
	What was happening in Star Wars, then it gets translated to almost everything.
	It gets into Star Trek.
	It gets into Doctor Who.
	It gets into She-Hulk.
	It gets into He-Man.
	It gets into a range of other topics.
	Were you surprised at how they just started desecrating and destroying all of these iconic brands, all of the ideals and ideas that the individual characters and story arcs shaped and reflected?
	Well, I first got woken up to it from Star Wars, but I remember when I was younger.
	I don't know if you guys ever watched this or ever heard of it.
	I think you have kids, right?
	So maybe some of them watched it.
	Do you know the Avatar, The Last Airbender?
	It was a cartoon.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was really big when I was a kid.
	Well, M. Night Shyamalan made a movie which was horrendously bad.
	That movie, that needs to be Thanos snapped out of existence.
	It is terrible.
	And he uses the excuse of, oh...
	The West just doesn't understand my vision.
	I'm like, no, you're retarded.
	You have earthbenders in a prison on Earth?
	No, they need to be in the ocean as far away from Earth as possible, so that way they can't earthbend their way out of it.
	I'm sorry.
	I know that's a controversial word now.
	I was going to say, the R word is worse than Nazis.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Grow some thicker skin.
	Like, it makes me so angry.
	So that, when I watch that movie, but see, that, he's kind of the opposite of Rian Johnson, where he's like, this is my artistic vision and people just don't get me.
	And I'm like, you're not that edgy, dude.
	All of your movies are predictable.
	All the aliens and signs, their weakness is water?
	So don't come to a planet full of water!
	It's so stupid.
	But that is an intelligence thing.
	What was his only good movie, M. Night Shyamalan?
	It was the first one.
	I See Dead People one.
	Sixth Sense.
	It was obvious from the beginning that he was a ghost.
	I only knew that, spoiler alert, Bruce Willis was dead at the end of Sixth Sense.
	That's from a Lonely Island song as well.
	I only knew that Bruce Willis was dead because, second spoiler alert, I had seen Fight Club and I knew that Tyler Durden was a figment of Ed Norton's imagination.
	That was the only good movie he ever made.
	The rest were garbage.
	The Happening was garbage.
	The Lady in the Water was garbage.
	The Unbreakable was garbage.
	Have I forgotten any other ones of M. Night Shyamalan that were...
	I didn't see The Last Airbender, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
	But I have no doubt, it too was garbage.
	Well, see, when I saw...
	So when I saw The Last Jedi, I didn't realize...
	Because I was so invested in...
	Well, I was getting my degree and I was working.
	I didn't really...
	And I didn't do the Twitter thing.
	I wasn't involved in the culture, really.
	I kind of stuck to my own thing and did my own thing, got my work done.
	So when I saw The Last Jedi, I didn't realize it was a cultural thing.
	I just thought it was another dumbass making a stupid movie.
	And it was something that I really cared about.
	So I made the video and then I found out, oh no, he's not M. Night Shyamalan dumb.
	He's doing this maliciously, and that really made me angry, because I'm like, you have so many people that are such good storytellers, especially in Star Wars.
	Like, you have Timothy Zahn, who wrote the Star Wars sequels that everyone kind of coins as canon.
	It's the Thrawn trilogy and the Thrawn duology.
	You have him, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't say no to a couple million dollars to write you guys some movies, you know?
	So, why don't you just call him up?
	Because I'm pretty sure he would do that.
	And there's plenty of people out there.
	I mean, all they had to do was, I don't know, maybe do Knights of the Old Republic, make KOTOR into movies.
	That would make a lot of money considering how popular Revan is.
	But no, they don't care.
	And that just, it makes me mad.
	But then I got woken up to this whole culture war thing.
	And been doing this ever since.
	Can you talk about the Mary Sue effect?
	For those people out there that may not know it, because we have a wide range of an audience.
	Some are younger, some are older.
	What is the Mary Sue, in particular, how the Mary Sue character becomes defined?
	I mean, what was supposed to happen, I guess, in Disney's mind was that their replacement for Luke Skywalker would be as popular as Luke Skywalker, but it would be a woman and so on and so forth.
	And this would have a bunch of young girls.
	He'd be huge fans.
	Of course, that didn't turn out in terms of merchandising, box office, and a bunch of other things.
	But largely because it wasn't because she was a woman.
	It was because they made her a Mary Sue.
	Can you explain that?
	Well, if you look at Princess Leia, Princess Leia is pretty badass, but that's because she had the education of a princess and she's been, you know, fighting with the rebels and also basically having to be a double agent by going into the Senate, you know, obviously having to pretend to be ignorant to the Rebel Alliance while also leading it.
	She's a pretty badass character and we don't, aside from knowing that she's a princess and who her father...
	We don't really see her go through any training or any of that because she's already gone on her hero's journey.
	That's why her big arc in The Empire Strikes Back is so important is because she finally has to deal with the fact that she's been so one way and Han Solo has to help her to come to terms with the fact that, hey...
	I know we're fighting this war, but you have to come to terms with your emotions and admit to yourself that, you know, you're in love.
	And that's why that whole I love you, I know, is so iconic.
	Whereas Luke Skywalker, he didn't have any of that.
	So we had to watch him go from being, you know, a whiny boy on Tatooine to being a man in The Last Jedi.
	And I went on that little rant, so I completely forgot your question.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, two things, really, but actually triggering another question.
	One is, what is the Mary Sue phenomenon?
	Oh, Mary Sue.
	Okay, that was a question.
	Okay, so Mary Sue phenomenon, it actually started off as Star Trek fan fiction, and you just have the girl that's good at everything for no reason, and that's why I went on the Princess Leia tangent, was because people brought up Princess Leia, and I'm like, no, she obviously is not a Mary Sue.
	She has faults.
	Clearly see that in Empire Strikes Back.
	But with Luke, the reason why so many people related to him was because he wasn't perfect.
	The only thing that we knew that he was kind of good at was being a pilot.
	And he says that in the first movie.
	He's like, I'm a pretty good pilot myself.
	I can do it.
	I can take us to Alderaan.
	You just need a ship.
	And that comes into play later in the movie when he does fly an X-Wing and he does use the Force to...
	You know, do the shot into the Death Star, which is awesome.
	But we had to go through an entire movie of him kind of, you know, toying with the Force to get to that point.
	If he just did that in the beginning, nobody would care.
	And that's the same thing with Rey.
	So when I watched The Force Awakens, knowing J.J. Abrams and knowing he can't finish anything, I was like, okay, good.
	He's not doing the other ones.
	But he set all this stuff up.
	So I thought...
	Oh, there's gotta be a reason why she's just on a planet for, what, 20-something years not doing anything?
	Maybe she's got some holocrons.
	Maybe she's learning.
	Maybe there's a reason why she knows all of this stuff.
	Maybe there's a reason why she knows how to fly the Millennium Falcon.
	Maybe there's a reason why she knows who Han Solo is and who all these people are.
	Maybe she's actually been doing something and that will get revealed in the next movie.
	And that didn't happen.
	But they just...
	This whole idea of women are just perfect at everything.
	I'm like, are you guys like an ostrich with your head under the sand?
	No one is just automatically good at anything.
	Give me a break.
	When Robert said Maggie Sue, I thought he said Peggy Sue.
	And that brought me back to a movie I saw when I was a kid.
	Peggy Sue Got Married, 1986.
	Okay, hold on.
	Now, we're going to end this on YouTube and bring it over to Rumble, everybody.
	You know the link is there, so let's do that because we're going to get into some Etsy.
	And the Etsy stuff might be too edgy for YouTube.
	It's not at all, but I want to hear about the artwork because your Etsy page is...
	Oh, Etsy, Etsy.
	Etsy, yes.
	So we're going to see the edgy Etsy on over to Rumble, people.
	It doesn't change anything here except you've got to go click that link, ending on YouTube, on to Rumble right now.
	And hold on one second.
	As I said that, a rant came in.
	She made the exact same comment as Samantha Carter.
	I don't know what this means.
	She won.
	Samantha Carter is one of the main characters in it, and yeah, she's a great character.
	Oh yeah, I mean, the two things that are, well, and there are two topics you talk about a lot, but one is that, you know, friends out in the Hollywood business that talked about how much what was missing, what was a sign of a bad writer, David Mamet talks about this as well, and this is universal value in a wide range of persuasive storytelling settings for folks out there, is the importance of narrative arc.
	And the hero's journey.
	Mamet talks about it extensively, etc.
	And how that's missing from all of, while the motivation might be politicization, maybe the excuse is politicization of people who just can't write.
	So they sub in politics for their lack of writing skill.
	They get hired for their politics when they really can't write.
	And they disguise their poor writing as principled politics when it's not even that principled.
	Can you talk about the importance of narrative arc in the second aspect?
	One key difference between Princess Leia and other characters is the female characters, even the original Terminators, other people, in terms of strong women characters, they maintain their femininity.
	And the other thing that appears to be is there's this war on...
	These women characters are not only not real...
	Because they don't have a hero's journey.
	They don't have a narrative arc.
	They don't have any weaknesses or vulnerabilities.
	They never lose.
	But also, they're not even really feminine characters.
	They're often masculine women.
	Yeah, well, that's the thing.
	They see femininity as a weakness.
	And it's like, didn't you guys watch Xena?
	I don't think she had any problem being weak.
	I think she was pretty badass and strong.
	And she was extremely feminine as well, but that is the embodiment of all evil to people in Hollywood now, is you can't be, if you're a woman, you cannot be feminine.
	That is wrong.
	That is evil.
	And that is something that I actually, I didn't pick up on when I was in college, but now thinking back is, I'm like, wow, that was something that they really pushed on us.
	I had this one class, which was absolutely terrible.
	It was called Vehicle and Armor Design.
	I'm a girl.
	I'm going to play this card.
	I am a girl.
	I like pretty cards.
	I don't understand how they work.
	I don't want to either.
	There are plenty of boys in this world that know that and like that, and that is not my thing.
	I can talk about mascara all day, though.
	And that really pissed off my teacher.
	And I'm like, this is just a fact of being a girl.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's the hard truth.
	And there's nothing wrong with the stereotypes of women or the stereotypes of guys.
	And so in that class, like, you couldn't design, you know, if you had to design for a male character, you had to do kind of the exact same thing for the female characters.
	I'm like, well, that's wrong.
	Like, obviously, we are physically different.
	I'm going to need different protection in certain areas than men will need.
	Like, obviously, you know, a peer is going to be a different situation for a woman than it is for a man.
	And that was something that was really frowned upon, and we would have to go through Marvel characters, and specifically Wonder Woman.
	And I'm like, she's bulletproof.
	Why does it matter that in the animated series that she's basically in a swimsuit?
	Why does that matter?
	She's bulletproof.
	Nothing is going to harm her skin.
	And they're like, well, what if this alien thing does this, this, and this?
	I'm like, well, I don't know.
	She'll do...
	This thing, you know, using her brain and figure it out like she always does.
	But that was a really big argument.
	And so anytime you had to design female characters, it had to be basically an entire bodysuit, head covered, not an inch of skin.
	And then I would always use, well, what about Star Trek?
	You know, Star Trek, aside from the original series, the women were always in bodysuits just like the men.
	But it was cut differently because women are women and men are men.
	And that was even problematic.
	And I didn't really realize that.
	I just was annoyed with it in college.
	But I was like, I'm already annoyed with this class anyway.
	So it didn't seem like a big deal to me.
	Until now when we see He-Man, where the women are more jacked than the guys.
	And it's like, oh my God, what are you guys doing?
	It's really insulting.
	But I don't know why they're wanting to die on this hill.
	You've reminded me of a course I took.
	I took feminist philosophy.
	Oh, God.
	And the professor, it was the only time in my life where I wrote Ms. blank on my essays, and she had crossed off Ms. and put doctor, and then proceeded to give me a C or a C minus.
	One of the things we studied, I wrote an essay rebutting Andrea Dworkin's theory that sex...
	Consensual heterosexual sex was an act of male dominance on women.
	And I had to pull it up just to make sure that my memory was accurate.
	It's not a joke.
	This is describing the book Intercourse.
	I don't remember if we read this book.
	Andrea Dworkin, once called feminism's Malcolm X, has been worshipped, reviled, criticized, yada, yada, yada.
	Where is it?
	In it, Andrea Dworkin argues that in a male supremacist society, sex between men and women constitutes a central part of women's subordination to men.
	So I like to...
	I'm living my life backwards.
	I remember finding this objectionable at the time and tried to argue that nothing in nature Could be immoral.
	A lion eating a gazelle is not immoral.
	It's the way they were designed.
	And the man to female body parts were the way they were designed in nature and could not be a question of morality or immorality.
	And what you're describing brought back that memory.
	As a woman, Anna, do you find it insulting, enraging, demeaning, degrading, or all of the above when you see this being...
	imposed on you as a viewer and then also told if you don't like it, you must be one of them self-hating with it.
	Yeah, no, I'm dealing with that right now on Twitter.
	It's a joke on my Twitter.
	Every day, the weirdos are coming after me.
	I get called a pick-me girl.
	I have a boyfriend.
	We've been together for almost seven years.
	I'm totally a pick-me girl.
	Anytime I see feminists like that, I'm just like, you're not getting laid.
	If you are, it's not being done very well.
	That's just an angry woman that Is very unhappy with her life, so she has to impose that onto other people because it's the only form of control that she has in her life.
	A happy woman isn't doing that shit.
	And feminists don't really like hearing that, but I lived in San Francisco for five years.
	I was around them enough.
	That is 100% their problem.
	They're miserable, unhappy, and they're not getting laid.
	What is a pick-me girl?
	Because I'm unaware of that phrase.
	Ah, Robert, I know what that is because my daughter's young.
	Not much younger than Anna.
	Anna, you describe it because I will screw up.
	It has to be a girl looking for attention and saying pick-me, pick-me type thing.
	That's basically it.
	It's any time you disagree with them, they call you a pick-me girl.
	And every single time, they're either extremely ugly, they are hiding behind an avatar, or they're a male feminist.
	Every single time.
	Yeah, what's interesting to me is how often they, like, there's all this criticism within the left social media circle of, you know, lookism, of valuing people based on appearances, of using gendered norms to define or describe or criticize people.
	But what's interesting is how quickly they resort to those exact tactics themselves whenever they disagree with someone.
	What is that, how educational, or I don't know if educational is the right word, but...
	Have you been surprised at the so constant, continuous, stalker-esque behavior of the social media critics of any dissonant opinion being voiced on modern culture?
	Oh, my God.
	It kind of blows my mind how ignorant people are and just how willing they are to be, like, part of the mob.
	And one of the things that always, like, scared me, even, like, even today, like, I'm terrified of zombies.
	Like, The Walking Dead, like, that makes, that gives me anxiety because it's so realistic to the way people are now.
	They get told this, X is the thing, X is the target, and we're going to come after you like mindless zombies.
	And I remember the first time I got, like, canceled on Twitter.
	And I thought that these were real people I was talking to.
	And it was the first time in my life I've ever had, like, an anxiety attack or a panic attack.
	And I didn't know what was going wrong.
	I didn't know why so many people were so upset over a tweet that wasn't really controversial.
	Do you remember what the tweet was?
	I think I had...
	The chat will probably know.
	But I remember that they brought up...
	It was something that had to do with something completely different, and then they went and they stalked my profile.
	They found a photo that I took with a cosplayer.
	I was cosplaying, and I took a photo with another girl.
	We took a selfie.
	I asked her if we could take the selfie.
	She said yes to the selfie.
	I didn't bother her in any way.
	I didn't even know this girl on Twitter.
	These weirdos went and stalked this girl, said I was attacking her for a week-old tweet.
	Which wasn't even the initial tweet that they were mad about.
	And then they said I was harassing her and bullying her.
	And it just had nothing to do with anything else.
	And I remember just being overwhelmed.
	I'm like, I really didn't do anything wrong.
	And they're just making this about something else because they didn't like a different tweet that I had said.
	And it was...
	I didn't even know this girl on Twitter.
	I didn't know that she had an Instagram.
	I didn't know any online presence.
	I just met her, took a photo with her at a con, and they made it this big thing, and she ended up blocking me.
	And I'm like, I didn't go and stalk her.
	They went and stalk her.
	I wasn't bothering her.
	They went and bothered her and made it a problem.
	And then I talked with one of my friends, Ethan VanSkyver, because we were supposed to do a stream, and he's a comic book guy, and he kind of got kicked out.
	Of the comic book industry because of his views on politics.
	And he basically explained to me, Anna, these aren't real people.
	These are a mob.
	They don't care how reasonable you are.
	It's kind of like Kyle Reese in Terminator.
	He's like, they don't eat, they don't sleep, and they will never stop.
	And that's basically what these people are now.
	And it doesn't matter.
	My tweet that's controversial literally right now that's blowing up my Twitter.
	Is everyone is making fun of MODOK because of the new Ant-Man.
	And somebody posted a tweet like, oh, look, you can see his butt.
	And I was like, all right, well, everyone's like laughing about him.
	Let me give him a compliment.
	And I said, you know, his ass is bigger than Brie Larson's.
	And I thought it was funny, which it is.
	And it's not being mean to Brie Larson because it's true.
	And they're all losing their mind.
	This tweet is like, what, almost three, five days old now.
	And they're losing their mind saying I'm a pee.
	Pick me, girl.
	That I'm a racist.
	They bring up the fact that my dog died.
	I'm like, yeah, she died over a year ago.
	Hold on a second.
	I need to understand a little more of the context.
	The guy, is the guy black who you said it about?
	No.
	He's just a head in a mask.
	Is Brie Larson black?
	No, Brie Larson's white.
	Where does race come into, if I'm going to be totally ignorant?
	I don't understand.
	And what's the insult?
	Are you shaming a dad body?
	Like you're saying he's got a...
	Fat ass?
	Or are you saying he's got a muscular ass and she's got a bone ass?
	He has a little bubble butt, but one of the jokes with Brie Larson is that she had to have a butt double because she has a flat butt.
	And when Captain Marvel was coming out, all of these photos were going around about how you can just see how baggy her costume is and how you see her stunt double and she's got a big butt.
	So it's an ongoing joke about how Brie Larson has no ass.
	And they even do it with, like, all the different Marvel characters, like Tom Holland in a Spider-Man suit, and he's got, like, a big butt, and it's just, it's a joke within the Marvel fandom.
	But because I said it, and I have an X on my back, they come after me with every single insult under the sun.
	One of which is racism.
	Another one is a pick-me girl.
	They call me an incel is one of the funniest ones because it's always a male feminist or somebody that's hiding behind an avatar that calls me an incel and I just, I'm like, I don't, really?
	Really?
	Is Brie Larson also the one that has the foot image issue?
	Yes.
	Why do I know something so stupid?
	I don't know why I know it.
	Because it's a meme now that she's got weird feet.
	Well, okay.
	Now, speaking of another iconic film that's been interesting in this process, and I've been fascinated by your generation's intrigue with it, because I thought it was a cool film, but I didn't expect the kind of cultural zeitgeist of a generation that surrounded it.
	And maybe you can explain it, and that's the film The Joker.
	Oh, I mean...
	I guess with it, it's kind of just showing...
	So with Luke Skywalker, he goes on his hero's journey.
	And I always found this fascinating because my favorite character is Darth Vader.
	And so everyone's always like, really?
	That's your favorite character?
	I'm like, yeah, he's my favorite character.
	And the reason why is because everyone goes, especially when you have hero's journeys, you have your...
	Beginning, this is the setting, these are who the characters are, and then they go on their rising action, then there's some kind of climactic moment that will make them go one way or the other way, and Luke Skywalker went one way, and Anakin goes another way and becomes Darth Vader.
	The Joker, same thing.
	He could have had a completely different ending, but we saw the complete downfall of a good man into a villain.
	And I think that's really compelling because you don't really see that nowadays and you especially don't see it done well.
	And so seeing the Joker and how he becomes the Joker, I know a lot of people don't like it.
	I don't like some of the issues with it.
	How old he is and then him with young Bruce Wayne, I'm just like, he would be like in his 70s, you know, when he's actually fighting Batman.
	That doesn't really make sense, you know?
	So that aspect of it kind of bothered me and a few other things.
	But overall, just watching that happen, and that's terrifying to happen because mental health is such an issue.
	Like I said, I grew up, or I didn't grow up in San Francisco, but I grew up going to San Francisco and then I lived in San Francisco.
	I've seen a lot of people like that, like tweaking out on buses or metros, even on the street, and being surrounded by so many homeless that just have mental problems and they just aren't getting the help.
	He just had a bad day that escalated into a terrible day and a terrible week, and he just said, F it.
	I have absolutely nothing to lose, which is terrifying.
	But because he's the protagonist of the movie, you get that interesting spin.
	And I feel like...
	A lot of people in Hollywood, they're just...
	They don't give the audience the credit that they deserve.
	They think that we're all stupid and we just want to see popcorn flicks, which is not what audience want.
	We are intelligent.
	Some people are extremely intelligent and people don't like their intelligence insulted.
	And that movie did the opposite, where it's like he gave us credit for being intelligent.
	Same thing with The Hangover.
	The Hangovers are great movies.
	I mean, the first one is obviously the best, but he doesn't...
	Treat us like we're stupid.
	He's like, okay, you guys are smart enough to get X, Y, and Z, so I'm not going to explain X, Y, and Z. I'm going to show you this story and you guys are going to follow it.
	And I think everyone here has been in a situation where you see someone that clearly has issues and how wrong things can go.
	And I think that's why it was, you know, as good as it was.
	All it takes is good writing and intelligence behind it and not somebody with an agenda that's just trying to force feed you.
	I don't know, weird twisted narratives.
	He just wanted to tell the story and he did it well.
	What I thought was, Robert, I actually saw The Joker, but I saw The Joker like five years after the scandal.
	Like when it came out, I remember everybody saying, this is...
	Five years?
	Oh, The Joker?
	Hold on, let me see.
	It's been a while.
	I'm going to fact check myself.
	I didn't see it at the time.
	This is worse for me now.
	No, it came out pre-COVID.
	There's no question about that.
	So that's already three-plus years.
	What made that particularly good, well, first of all, the reaction at the time that this was going to encourage more murders and they were having increased security at movie theaters, the media makes the hype so that they hope that something happens so they can then demonize what they predicted was going to cause it.
	But I thought it was good because it turned an otherwise cartoonish Marvel-type thing into an actual drama.
	I'm trying to think of a good crime movie, but it made it more realistic.
	It made one of these fantasy superhero movies into an actual real crime movie, which was great, and Joaquin Phoenix was a great actor.
	It was cliched.
	It was not anywhere near as bad as I remembered everyone saying it at the time.
	I don't know what was bad about it.
	It was good.
	It's one of those stories.
	Not everyone is a good person.
	And sometimes, you know, people are born good and, you know, shit happens and they fall off the wagon.
	Other people are born psychos like, you know, people like Ted Bundy and they do fucking crazy shit.
	In the Logos chat compared it to Michael Douglas falling down, which was iconic for our generation.
	But the other thing it gets right to, that explains, they did it, some psychologists did some good analysis years ago of the Brothers Grimm fairy tales.
	And why did kids like those more than they liked the true, like, nice, sweet fairy tales that we tell kids today?
	And it's because kids wanted to confront.
	Both sides of their personality.
	They wanted something that was real.
	And if they could take their own fears, their own hates, their own angers, and they could see them reflected in the characters around them, the alternatives, the paths, they connected much deeper to those fairy tales than they did to sweet, nice, innocent.
	Classic superhero, everything's perfect kind of fairy tales.
	So that does explain aspects of the joke.
	All right, that makes more sense.
	Because otherwise, I thought, well, why does everybody love this movie where this guy goes crazy?
	But now that makes a little more sense.
	And it was 2019.
	The chat seems to be saying, is my audio getting lower or is it just something I said that's dumb?
	Because people are making fun of me.
	Falling Down, I've got a rewatch Falling Down.
	I remember watching that at the time and thinking it was somewhat anticlimactic.
	But I have to go back and watch that and it might relate to me a bit differently as a 44-year-old, soon-to-be 44-year-old man, watching the earth fall to shit.
	Anna, you're a young person.
	Okay, pre-9-11, fine.
	What does it feel like to be 20-some-odd years old?
	The fact that you're a woman, I think, is not necessarily determined for this question, but do you feel that the world is going to shit?
	And what does it feel like watching the world go to shit in real time for your prospect of a future in this world?
	I don't know.
	I used to think about the future all the time, and then a lot of bad stuff happened in 2019, and I've just decided to live in the moment, which is probably not the best.
	Thing to do, but it's the only thing that I can use to deal with crippling depression.
	So I just kind of think about it that way because I start thinking about that.
	I'm just going to get too depressed and not want to get out of bed.
	And it took me like a year just to get out of bed because one, my sister went missing and then she died.
	And then a month later, my cousin was in a car accident and sat there with her in the hospital for a week.
	And then, you know, she died and then.
	A few months later, my grandpa died.
	And that was before COVID.
	So I was like, what's the point of the future if literally everyone I know is just going to die?
	And I have this deep, well, I guess it's not even a deep fear now.
	But now I'm just like, everyone I know is going to die and I'm going to be alone.
	I really understand Johnny Cash now.
	But I try not to think about it too much.
	But when I do, I'm just like seeing my stepdaughter.
	She's 12 now.
	Everything's about the switch.
	Everything's about the phone.
	When you go out, people don't have real lives.
	And that's a really big thing with people that are writing stuff.
	Especially She-Hulk.
	I'm like, you guys don't understand what a struggle is.
	Because your biggest struggle is losing your iPhone cord.
	That you can't charge your phone.
	That is your biggest struggle in life.
	How are you supposed to write films or write books?
	And that's another thing.
	People don't read books anymore.
	And that kind of is alarming to me.
	Like, I love reading.
	I don't have any time for it now, which kind of sucks.
	But I'm just, people don't have actual lives.
	Everything is virtual.
	And it really makes me think of Fahrenheit 451 with the wife where she's in the room.
	And, like, that's her whole thing is talking to these fake family members.
	And I'm just like, oh, my God, everything's coming true.
	Yeah, well, it's one of the quotes in the Mark Hamill description of who a real Jedi was, that one of the great ideals of that character that they desecrated was that Jedis are always optimistic.
	That despite the circumstances, despite the situation, despite the insanity of what they're facing or confronting, that they find ways to see the idealism potential in the world.
	And in the cultural capacity, one actor you're fond of, and I was wondering where you think he'll go, that's on the positive side of sort of someone who's committed to the story framework, honest narrative to the...
	Okay, that's what you're talking about.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm trying to guess, Robert.
	People often confuse Viva with this individual.
	Weird Aliyankovic?
	No.
	That's funny.
	This is a subtle compliment there.
	Henry Cavill, the one and only.
	No, Henry's just getting screwed over because he's a straight man that everybody likes, that cares about these properties.
	They don't like that.
	I mean, if he would just lie and say that he was gay, he'd be in every single movie ever.
	But he's actually honest, which is really hurting him.
	But Henry had a problem, which was so...
	This is deep lore.
	Well, I guess it's not deep lore, but for people that can just Google search away.
	But so Henry had a misfortune of getting signed on to a manager who is Dani Garcia.
	So she is the Rock's ex-wife.
	She was very, very smart.
	I will give her that.
	When her and The Rock got married, they created a film or production studio called Seven Buck Studios, and so she did everything for The Rock, and then when they got divorced, again, very intelligent woman, she got half of everything, and she controls his life and everyone else that was signed on, including Henry Cavill.
	Henry Cavill and The Rock are very similar as far as casting-wise.
	They're both family-friendly.
	They both have very similar body types.
	Obviously, The Rock is older, but The same kind of person as far as casting-wise.
	Henry Cavill is very different than Edward Norton, right?
	You wouldn't think of him as the same character.
	Henry Cavill does look like a perfect future James Bond, but they probably won't cast him.
	He would be, right?
	But that's not what they want to do.
	Gary from Neurotic made the joke where it's like, Timothee Chalamet is probably going to be James Bond.
	Or no, he said Superman.
	I was like, oh god, no.
	But that's the way that they're going.
	They're making all of the women masculine and all of the men as feminine as possible.
	And they're wondering why their movies are failing.
	But Henry Cavill has had the misfortune of having a bad manager and having bad contract deals where she basically was making all of the money.
	So that's why in Shazam, if...
	That was him in Shazam!
	But he couldn't show his face because Danny Garcia would have gotten a big paycheck and he wouldn't have.
	So it was all these technicality things on why he couldn't be in certain movies.
	Not necessarily that people didn't want to cast him.
	He just had a really, really bad business arrangement.
	Which sucks.
	And now he's finally out of it.
	Thank goodness.
	But then we have James Gunn pulling the rug out from under him and being like, Nah, you're not going to be Superman.
	Never mind!
	Where do you think he will go in terms of the next project for Henry Cavill?
	Well, Henry Cavill's going to be doing Warhammer, which is something that he's a big fan of.
	He paints those little miniatures.
	And so from what I have gathered is that he's going to be an executive producer, which means he has a lot more control than he would have as just being an actor, which is a good thing.
	But we'll see how that goes.
	And is Henry Cavill, the guy who was putting together the computer that you were looking at?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay, well now it makes a little more sense.
	Because you said in the beginning of this, you watched my videos.
	You watched that one.
	That was the most popular video.
	It was you reacting to Spider-Man or Superman putting together a flipping computer.
	It was quite funny to watch.
	But Anna, here's a Rumble rant.
	Please ask Anna to talk about the Trek actress, Gate McFadden.
	I don't know who that is.
	It's Gate McFadden.
	She plays Dr. Beverly Crusher on Star Trek The Next Generation.
	That is an inside joke from a super chatter named Russell Hall.
	And we are not getting into that today.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I don't want to...
	I did not know.
	On my channel, you do not need that in your chat.
	Okay, fine.
	Now I feel like I'm having flashbacks to another incident where someone didn't understand the extent of the chat that they read.
	I thought that was just about...
	Okay.
	But, hold on.
	Anna, two more here.
	This is $5 Rumbaran from Emorsk, says another strong female character in Farscape, Officer Aaron Sun, one of the best sci-fi series.
	And Ozidian says it signals...
	This is in relation to the earlier discussion.
	It signals a destruction of culture while also highlighting how stagnant Western culture has become for nature.
	Anna, this is the question.
	Robert, who did we ask this to the last time?
	Favorite movie of all time and most hated movie of all time?
	Oh my god, that's hard.
	Well, my favorite Star Wars movie is Empire Strikes Back.
	Best one, hands down.
	Outside of Star Wars, my favorite movie is Silence of the Lambs.
	And then, like, my favorite Star Trek movie is The Wrath of Khan, of course.
	And I guess hated movie of all time.
	I really, really, really, with a deep passion, hate The Last Jedi.
	I think it's one of the worst movies ever made.
	And it just makes me angry.
	Now, what are some of the shows that have come along, or movies that have come along, that you like, that are really good content?
	I really liked The Man in the High Castle, so that's based on a historical science fiction novel.
	I didn't watch the last season because everyone said it was bad, and the third season it was kind of getting iffy, but one of my favorite actors was in it, so I was watching it, and it's...
	Really, really good for those that haven't watched it.
	The first two seasons are great.
	It's the concept of what happens if we lost World War II and Germany and Japan won and they took over the United States.
	So the East Coast all the way to the Rocky Mountains are the Nazis.
	The West Coast is the Japanese.
	And they're getting all of these war films from our universe showing us when.
	People are getting these films from The Man in the High Castle, and it's inspiring people to stand up to their oppressors.
	That's the pitch for it.
	The third season is eh.
	The fourth season I didn't watch because people told me not to, but that was a good show.
	I have been watching Afterlife by Ricky Gervais.
	I really like it so far.
	I'm still on season one, though.
	When I watch shows, I always go back and watch older stuff.
	I watch Frasier almost every single day.
	I love Kelsey Grammer and Star Trek.
	I watch Star Trek all the time, too.
	I can sing you the opening song from Frasier, but I won't because I have a terrible voice.
	Hold on.
	I actually wanted to bring this up.
	I'm going to do this here.
	You do YouTube.
	This is not to get into your streams of revenue.
	You are multifaceted.
	This is not just about...
	Internet commentary.
	You do physical art.
	This is your Etsy page, which is etsy.com slash shop.
	The art of Anna TSWG.
	That's Star Wars, girl.
	Okay, I'll go to the...
	That's like stickers, and then I have prints of paintings, and then posters from some of my cosplay calendars.
	I also have an Instagram where I do paintings.
	I also have an art channel on YouTube where I do paintings.
	I've been working on this project right now called the Eye Project.
	I'm trying to paint 200 eyes.
	I've painted 100 so far.
	And all of the eyes are volunteers from my audience.
	So that's a lot of fun.
	And I stream on there more than I stream on my own channel.
	But yeah, like I said, I do oil paintings.
	Like I have the unfinished R2-D2 right behind me.
	Got them horror villains.
	All of the fun stuff.
	When I first heard the word cosplay, I had absolutely no idea what people were talking about.
	Then I went to a Comic-Con, and I understood what it was all about.
	Everybody's dressed up in the outfits.
	They're all proud.
	They're all excited.
	It has such a nice vibe.
	Well, at least when I went to Comic-Con.
	I don't know how it is these days.
	Have you always enjoyed the dress-up aspect, or is that something you've come to later?
	Yeah, well, I mean, I'm a girl.
	I think that's one of the things.
	We play dress-up and we play with Barbies.
	But my birthday is Halloween, so I always had a costume party.
	And I like that.
	You get to go shopping and put on new clothes.
	What girl doesn't like that, right?
	So I just decided one year I was going to be rogue for Halloween for my birthday.
	And I said, why not just do it for an entire month, not just one day?
	Got my hair actually done like Rogue.
	And I was on a stream and people were like, you should do a cosplay calendar.
	And the chat suggested it.
	So I was like, okay, I'll start shooting a cosplay calendar in October.
	And then I did it and I got a lot of heat from it because there's a lot of drama in the cosplay community and they hate me because you have to make everything yourself.
	You can't buy anything.
	And I'm just like...
	No, work smarter, not harder.
	That's kind of my philosophy.
	So I do it all kind of like on a budget.
	And I show everyone, I'm like, these are all the things that I get from Amazon.
	And this is the hot glue gun I use.
	And this is how you can take $100 and make a cosplay.
	And the cosplayers hate that because they're like, you have to sew everything yourself and you have to hand make everything.
	You can't buy anything.
	Oh, crap.
	Show receipts for the people who claim to have sewed it.
	They had their mothers or their fathers, if they're into knitting, sew it.
	Well, that's another thing, is that I'm not using Mommy and Daddy's credit card.
	I'm paying for it myself.
	But they don't like that I do it, and I'm able to make money off of it.
	And they hate that.
	So they all hate me.
	Again, I'm a pick-me, racist, misogynistic man-baby-that-lives-in-my-mother's-basement kind of thing.
	But yeah, so the cosplay kind of just organically happened, I guess.
	And people like it, and so that's why I do it, is because my audience asked for it.
	It wasn't something I intended to do.
	It just happened.
	How did you get connected to the broader content culture creator community?
	You stood up for Brittany Venti when she was targeted by Eliza Blue's allies.
	You stood up for Nick Riccato when Nick Riccato was being targeted by certain people.
	A few folks weren't loyal to him.
	Not to mention Legal Bites by any name or anything.
	Not to get political.
	We're going to avoid politics tonight.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, that's my question.
	How did you get connected to those folks?
	And why stand up for them even when it means risk to your own channel and things like that?
	So for Nick, I think I met Nick through Yellow Flash.
	I'm not entirely sure how we met.
	But I remember when my sister was missing before she passed away, I remember he kind of raised awareness for it because everyone in the chat, it was really incredible the way that everyone that I didn't even know came together to try to help me and my family find her.
	And Nick gave a shout out to help to try to find her.
	The quartering did.
	And I met a lot of people through that.
	You know, one of the worst times of my life.
	And then I think we officially met on Yellow Flash's show.
	And then Nick is a huge nerd, too.
	So we became friends that way.
	And, you know, his wife likes Star Trek.
	And then we met in person at Anime Matsuri a few years ago.
	And, I mean, Nick's really cool.
	And I feel like everyone kind of likes courtroom drama.
	You know, why do you think all those shows are so popular?
	I remember it's a really intense movie.
	One of my favorite movies, which has an all-star cast, is A Time to Die.
	Or no, A Time to Kill, right?
	With Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, Kevin Spacey.
	Everyone is in that movie, and it's a great movie.
	That's another morality thing where you have Samuel L. Jackson murders people, but he murders two men that raped and almost murdered his eight-year-old daughter.
	And then you got the whole...
	All of that stuff, which I guess we're on Rumble so I can kind of talk about it, but all like the racism and all of that.
	It's a great movie.
	So then watching his channel explode with him doing the live streams covering courtroom dramas, even though it's real life, that's fascinating.
	And that's how I actually found out who you two were because you guys went on Nick's show.
	But I never knew Nick as like a nerd, really, until I found out later that he painted Warhammer figures and he knew about Warhammer and stuff like that.
	But he just was cool and nice.
	And typically, I don't know if you guys have this experience, but when you're friends with people in real life, you guys all have different interests and you guys do different things and you have the common interests that, you know, bring you together.
	And so that was kind of how it's happened with Brittany.
	I got introduced to Brittany through my friend Chrissy Mayer and we met and Chrissy has the show SimpCast and I became friends with Brittany.
	She doesn't know anything about Star Wars or any of that stuff, but...
	I mean, we're human beings.
	We find things in common, and I really like Brittany, and I respect her tremendously, considering she's gone through most terrible things that I don't think a lot of people today can deal with.
	Like, Brittany was an orphan when she was 16 years old.
	She lost both of her parents at 16. Find out that her father passed away and then she had to watch her mom die of cancer and then fend for herself.
	I don't think a lot of people could do that.
	I don't think I could have done that being 16 and being alone.
	And she's made a life for herself.
	I have tremendous respect for Brittany.
	So when I see people going out of their way to hurt her, that makes me angry.
	Because I'm like, you wouldn't even be able to live a day in Brittany's life.
	How fucking dare you?
	Especially when you're copyright striking Britney over public content that you put out there.
	I hate that.
	I hate people that will abuse the system just because they can.
	And that's exactly what Eliza Blue did.
	And now it's kind of become something where it's, I don't know, just originally I felt like it was people that were friends with people that were trying to stand up for their friends.
	Britney got kicked off.
	Yellow Flash got kicked off.
	Camelot got kicked off.
	The quartering did.
	And Eliza, you know, uses her power and her connections to manipulate the system.
	And it's become a much bigger drama thing.
	And typically when that happens and it's become kind of political now, I'm like, all right, I'm taking a step back.
	I was just trying to defend my friend.
	I'm not getting dragged into a war.
	Especially when I didn't sign on to fight a war.
	I'll go to bat for Britney every single day of the week, but this thing that it's just become, it's kind of turned me off.
	Well, it starts off as a legitimate movement.
	It becomes something of an industry and then it gets corrupted because other people get into it, not because of the original essence of the movement, but rather because it becomes something to monetize and market, which...
	Well, see, that's the thing.
	The second somebody gave me shit because they said, you're trying to monetize it and trying to make me feel bad because I'm not doing it the way they want me to do it.
	I'm like, I'm defending my friend.
	You're mad because instead of doing something on Twitter where I only have, what, 90-something thousand followers, I'm doing it on YouTube where I have almost a quarter of a million.
	Like, wouldn't you do the thing on...
	I'm doing it on Twitter, but I'm like, you're giving me shit because I'm using the platform that's the biggest...
	To make the most noise.
	Not just that.
	When people fault people for monetizing...
	I didn't mean that in the monetizing sense.
	When you don't monetize it, turn off ads.
	First of all, YouTube will still run them.
	And second of all, they'll suppress the reach.
	Exactly.
	You're harming the...
	What I mean to say is the interested parties make it an issue because they're affected and they want to raise awareness.
	Then it becomes something much bigger.
	And then you get...
	I don't use the word grifters, but you get people who then jump in on the bandwagon, and that's how it gets corrupted and co-opted, and that's how it goes through the three stages.
	Organic, corporate, corrupt.
	And it happens on everything.
	That's kind of what's going on now, but I mean, like I said, I'll go to bat for Britney any day of the week, but the second somebody gave me shit because I wasn't doing it the way that they wanted me to do it, that rubbed me the wrong way.
	I'm like, you're not...
	Because I'm not doing it your way?
	Go fuck yourself.
	How dare you say that to me?
	This is one of my good friends.
	Not just that.
	The people saying that to you, Anna?
	They want to watch content for free.
	They want the free content.
	They don't even want you passively.
	It was another creator that said that to me.
	It wasn't doing it their way.
	And I'm like, this is my friend.
	I'm invested in this because this is my friend.
	You're just doing this because you're jumping on the bandwagon, but you want to give me shit because it's free speech.
	I'm like, I understand free speech.
	I get that.
	I'm not arguing that, but I'm only involved in this because of Britney.
	I don't typically involve myself in political arguments or political debates because that's kind of against.
	The whole message of my channel, which is, you know, don't bring that stuff into it.
	Like Luke Skywalker.
	That was, you know, one of my biggest videos on my channel was defending Luke Skywalker because, yeah, he's a fictional character, I know, but he meant something to me because I was a little girl that grew up on a farm, and I remember looking at the sunset and looking at the stars and wishing I could do something, and Luke Skywalker was literally in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of the galaxy, and he could change the fate of the galaxy.
	And he grew up on a farm too, so could I. That was inspiration for me.
	And watching what they were doing to him, I mean, yes, he's a fictional character.
	He can't defend himself.
	So, that was me defending Luke Skywalker.
	This is me defending my friend Brittany.
	The second somebody gives me shit because I'm not defending my friend the right way, again, go fuck yourself.
	Like, I'm out.
	Have you seen the movie Magnolia?
	I feel like I have.
	It's P.T. Anderson.
	You've got to watch it.
	When you say you don't want to get political, you may not want to get political, but politics is going to get you.
	In Magnolia, it says the book says we may be done with the past, but the past is never done with us.
	Or the past is not yet done with us.
	That's politics.
	You cannot avoid it.
	Magnolia, it's a three-hour marathon of a movie.
	It's a work of art.
	It's been a long time, but I...
	We have the VHS.
	It's 1999, I think.
	I think I saw that.
	It's 1999.
	Tom Cruise's best performance ever.
	And I got two chats that I want to bring up.
	Share a screen.
	I gotta go to the Rumbles.
	Here we go.
	Look at this.
	I got three now.
	Anna, watching Henry Cavill assemble his gaming computer is still one of my all-time favorite videos.
	That's Retired Geek.
	Candy Lou Who says, Anna, if you were asked to write the next Star Wars, would you?
	Could I?
	I mean, I physically could.
	I don't think I would want to, though.
	I'm not a writer.
	I don't think I'm very good at it.
	I'm severely dyslexic, and if they said, put a gun to my head, Anna, you have to do this, I physically could, but just because I physically can doesn't mean I should.
	I would call up Timothy Zahn or Chris Avalone to do it.
	And then the next one was Erin Nuclear.
	Was her Johnny Cash statement about the song Hurt?
	Well, that's the cover that he did, but I do like that.
	I don't know.
	My friends just, they said that, I don't know, for a while I was really, really morbid and depressed, and they were like, every word that comes out of your mouth is like a Johnny Cash song.
	I'm like, I'm sorry, but I don't know.
	And in a Henry Cavill video, everyone gives me shit that I only make negative content.
	Like, the most popular video on my channel is me simping over Henry Cavill.
	And the amount of times you said your uterus was going to explode.
	No drinking games, but someone would be very heavily intoxicated.
	I know, so, I mean, this is the broader question.
	Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
	Where do you see...
	What we are doing right now in 10 years?
	We're living through the golden era, like the gold rush of online commentary, social commentary, legal commentary from Barnes and I perspective.
	There will be a time when it won't be what it is.
	Where do you see it going and where do you see yourself in 10 years if you even actually stop to think about that?
	I don't.
	Like I said before, I used to plan for the future and now I'm just like, whenever I try, I know I really should.
	I'm not in that level of my life.
	I haven't gotten over this pain.
	But whenever I think about the future, I'm like, I'm just going to be alone and everyone I know and love is going to be dead.
	And I'll just be alone.
	So I don't know.
	I'm too morbid of a mindset right now.
	And it's hard to even look forward to things.
	That's why I try to just take it day by day.
	Because if I thought about the future, I wouldn't even be getting out of bed.
	So it's the most I'll plan for is like a couple months.
	And after that, I'm just like, I have expectations.
	Something bad is going to happen.
	And I know this is a terrible mindset.
	I will eventually snap out of it.
	But right now, I kind of have to focus on the now where, like I said, I won't get out of bed.
	So, yeah.
	So, yeah, it's just taking it day by day and focusing on what to enjoy today.
	Yeah, with YouTube, I don't know.
	Everything just kind of blurs together.
	I didn't think that this was going to be something I would be doing for years on end.
	I know I should plan it, but I'm not at that phase yet where I, Where I can.
	So, one day I'll get there and I'll get back to you on that answer.
	Let me just ask the question my father would ask me.
	Are you saving your money, Anna?
	Of course.
	Okay, good.
	Now, the other...
	Sorry.
	Okay, the other thing.
	Do you have a dog or a cat or any pet?
	I have two dogs and two cats.
	My cats are both deaf and retarded.
	And I don't mean that like...
	Satirically, I'm serious.
	My cats are deaf and retarded.
	Viva has one dog that has three legs.
	The other dog has one.
	So that's right at Viva's wheelhouse.
	I have a beautiful Pekingese princess.
	She is the most spoiled little dog in the world, and I love her to death.
	And then we just got a new dog.
	Her name is Dixie.
	That's my boyfriend's dog.
	She's a mommy's girl, so she follows me around everywhere, and my dog is a daddy's girl and follows him around everywhere.
	So we have those two and the retarded cat.
	So yes, I have pets.
	I grew up on a ranch, so I was always surrounded by animals, so I like having animals.
	That makes sense.
	You never look at them and wonder whether the dog is really a wolf and the cat's really a tiger.
	From the time I was little, I was like, that's just a wolf or a tiger waiting to get me when the time is right.
	Do you know what a Pekingese looks like?
	I was going to say, there's no such thing as a beautiful Pekingese, Anne.
	And I love dogs.
	Little Angel, I love the pushed-in face.
	Whenever we take her out, people stop to take pictures of my dog.
	That's how beautiful she is.
	The only reason I like Pekingese is because they have Pug in them, or Pug have Pekingese in them, I forget which.
	They have Pekingese in them.
	Pekingese were forbidden outside of China for the longest time.
	The first person that ever received a Pekingese that wasn't of Chinese royalty was Queen Victoria I, and that was a gift from the Emperor of China, and she received four Pekingese, and that was the first time they ever left the Forbidden City, and if you tried to smuggle I have a beautiful princess.
	She is beautiful.
	Pekingese.
	I'll traumatize you.
	I knew someone who had a Pekingese.
	The dog got bitten on the neck.
	Not viciously, just bitten.
	And it caused the pressure in the Pekingese eyeball to pop the eyeball out of the skull.
	They're very sensitive.
	That happens.
	That happens to my mother-in-law.
	She had a little...
	It was half Pomeranian, half Chihuahua, and I guess he was barking too much and his eye popped out and they had to sew a bag.
	My little princess doesn't get that crazy.
	I hope...
	Her eyeballs stay in her head, but if it doesn't, we will fix it and hopefully save her eye.
	Fingers crossed that never happens.
	And then my Australian Shepherd, Shia, has two different colored eyes.
	She's got a blue eye and a green eye.
	She is crazy right now, but puppy phase.
	Well, you do a lot of fun work.
	I think a lot of good work that's valuable.
	You stand up for your friends in ways that is admirable.
	I enjoy all the commentary.
	I think taking life a day at a time and the insanity of the world we live in is a good way to go.
	Celebrating the great art forms and the cultural canon that celebrates good values where farmers, where a little girl on a farm can see a...
	Be optimistic in the Jedi way because of the example of people like the character of Luke Skywalker is something we continue to need in our culture so that people can have faith moving forward and to improve the life around them.
	And I think you do a great job of doing that.
	Where can people follow you in various, whether it's social media, YouTube, etc.?
	Okay, so it's ThatStarWarsGirl on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.
	I have, oh, and Twitch.
	I have art stuff, which is always changing.
	So I think it's on Twitter.
	It's ArtTSWG.
	If you look up TSWG, that stands for ThatStarWarsGirl.
	So you can typically find me anywhere.
	My link tree is under review for some reason, so I can't share that.
	I do a show every Thursday night called The Jack Show, and that revolves between my channel, my friend John Malin, my friend Cecil, and my friend Kelsey.
	Then on Saturdays, I do Flashcast, which is on Yellow Flash's channel.
	And on Saturdays, I do Simpcast on Chrissy Mayer's channel.
	And I think that is all my bases.
	I'm not entirely sure, but I'll...
	I'll get yelled out later that I forgot something.
	Anna, send me all the links and I'll put them in the pinned comment for both Rumble and YouTube.
	No rest for the wicked.
	Listening to you dissect Star Trek almost made me want to watch it, but...
	Are you a Star Trek fan?
	No, no, no.
	I don't have time for movies, and if I watch a movie, it has to be a documentary.
	I feel if I'm not learning something real...
	Unless it's the jerk.
	You will!
	Oh my god, Star Trek taught me so much about life.
	That was the thing.
	I couldn't read for a really long time because I had a kindergarten teacher that refused to teach me the alphabet, and they didn't actually...
	So my memory, I learned things through...
	Hearing it.
	So I'm an audio learner because I couldn't read.
	And I went to public school, so they didn't catch that until I was in like fourth grade.
	And then my fourth grade teacher, because I was in the class for kids that only spoke Spanish.
	And they're like, why is Anna in this class?
	And I was just a terrible test taker, but I would remember everything that I heard.
	And then they realized, oh, she can't read.
	She needs glasses and she's dyslexic.
	And I was like, oh, joy.
	But I learned so much from watching movies, especially Star Trek.
	And that's what makes me so angry is today, people running Star Trek, I'm like, oh, this is the first gender-fluid character.
	This is the first gay character.
	This is the first transgender character.
	This is the first this character.
	I'm like, that was done in the 60s, dumb mofo.
	Like, all of this was done already.
	Every, like...
	I have this great poster.
	I have two of them.
	There's everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Wars and everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Trek.
	You want to learn something?
	Go watch Star Trek.
	You can learn...
	So much.
	I wrote an essay at McGill University, everything I learned, everything I know, everything I learned, everything I need to know, I learned from The Simpsons.
	And I went through The Simpsons teaching me about Vietnam.
	Simpsons back in the day.
	Wait, you only watch documentaries, but you watch The Simpsons?
	Well, back in the...
	I was obsessed with The Simpsons back in the day.
	Now, whenever I watch something, I gotta feel like I'm getting value for my...
	Intellectual life.
	But not that Star Trek isn't that and people in the chat...
	Everything.
	Oh my gosh.
	You can learn so much about life from Star Trek.
	Yeah, my dad was a massive Star Trek fan.
	Oh my gosh.
	I might give it a try.
	You might have swayed me.
	You'll probably like Deep Space Nine, but go watch the originals, then go watch Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise.
	You will learn so much.
	And there actually is science behind some of it.
	Not all of it.
	Obviously, dilithium crystals aren't really a thing.
	But, I mean, even if it's not necessarily, like, science-based, if you want to learn about the human condition and just all of the metaphors that went into the original 60s show, I think you'll enjoy it.
	You just have to, you know...
	Invest the time.
	Give it some time.
	Give it a watch, man.
	That hurts my heart.
	I will do it.
	I'll give one episode.
	Okay, you'll let me know which one I should watch first.
	Send me all your links.
	I'll put them in the pinned comment.
	Thank you very much.
	Fantastic.
	Phenomenal.
	I think I've got to everything.
	I'm just looking at the chat.
	I wanted to let you guys know my mother's best friend, like my mother's childhood best friend texted me a few weeks ago and she's like...
	Anna, my favorite show on Rumble just mentioned you.
	And I was like, how do you know these people?
	Like, what?
	It was the most shocking thing ever.
	So my mother's best friend from childhood, Cindy, she loves you guys and she watches you.
	So somebody that I never thought would ever be talking to me about this kind of online stuff knows who you guys are and enjoys your content.
	Cindy.
	Oh, shout out to Cindy.
	She has good taste.
	Cindy, you have good taste.
	Okay, we're going to end this.
	Anna, stick around.
	We'll say our proper goodbyes.
	Everyone in the chat, enjoy it.
	It's a $100 super chat.
	That's not possible.
	Hold on.
	That is possible.
	Hold on.
	J.H. Schwalbach.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'm going to bring this up because I'm going to mangle it.
	Here we go.
	Add to stream.
	I got to get close.
	My eyes are not good anymore.
	J.H. Schwalbach says, My best Anvid was her broken down on the, I think, 405.
	The drama was riveting, suspenseful, with a good outcome.
	My daughter lives in her area, so I fell for her.
	Hail, G&G, FNT, Friday Night Tights.
	Geeks and Gamers.
	Geeks and Gamers.
	And also Comic Skate.
	So, that wasn't the 405.
	I wish I was on the 405.
	When you ask me if I save money, this will show you that I do.
	So I was driving a Chevy S10 from 1994.
	I had had this truck.
	It was a great truck.
	And then it broke down on the freeway in Compton.
	Hey, I much left a car in Compton.
	My entire family lives in Northern California because I'm from Northern California.
	This is another Easter egg.
	I went to the same high school as George Lucas in Modesto that American Graffiti is based on.
	I gave a speech all about Star Wars at my high school graduation.
	You know, Star Wars and all this.
	So everyone's up in Northern California.
	Me and my boyfriend are the only ones that live down here.
	And everyone I knew that was down here was out of town that weekend.
	So there was no one that I could call.
	Truck is broken down on the freeway, on the side of the freeway in Compton.
	And I'm like, I'm going to die right now because there's no one I can call.
	I had AAA.
	I called AAA.
	And I'm like, I'm broken down right here.
	Can you please come and save me?
	And they're like, oh, this is like far away from your house.
	And I'm like, I paid the most for AAA.
	Like, just take me home.
	I will pay extra.
	Just get me out of here.
	Like, don't leave me on the side of the freeway in Compton.
	So I decided.
	If I'm going to die, I'm going to live stream it so my family knows what happens to me.
	I do the live stream.
	Oh my god, everyone is just watching as the sun is slowly going down in Compton.
	I was supposed to wait there for 90 minutes.
	I think it was, I don't know, chat can correct me, like three or four hours I waited, waiting for AAA.
	And I called them back and they're like, nobody's coming.
	And I almost cried.
	I'm like, what?
	What do you mean no one's coming?
	I'm on the side of the road on the freeway in Compton and it just happened to be the only shoulder that was there because the rest of it was...
	And finally someone came at midnight and they were not going to take me home and I almost cried because I'm like, you're just going to leave me on the side of the road in Compton?
	And so they finally agreed to take me home.
	But everyone that was hanging out with me in the live stream kind of kept me sane because I'm like, this is the most terrifying thing ever.
	Here's the trick, Anna.
	Call the police and phone in a bomb threat.
	That'll get someone there.
	I'll cry and say somebody misgendered me.
	That'll get them there real fast.
	Well, I say fantastic.
	That's not fantastic.
	That's a nightmare right there, actually.
	I got out of it and I finally, finally got a new car because that one did end up giving out on me.
	So, yeah.
	Amazing.
	Anna, this has been phenomenal.
	I'm going to give Star Trek a second or a first...
	A second first try or a first second try.
	Robert, amazing recommendation.
	Thank you for coming.
	Everybody in the chat, thank you for being here.
	And I might see you tomorrow.
	I might not.
	And Sunday for sure.
	So, Anna, thank you.
	This has been glorious.
	Thank you for having me on.
	This was fun.
	And hello, everyone in the chat that's new.
	Stick around.

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