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Feb. 2, 2023 - Viva & Barnes
01:09:55
Live with Kyle Rittenhouse! Viva Frei Live
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All right.
I think we are live.
Good afternoon, everybody.
We're a little late, but we're in studio live.
This was a question as to whether or not this was going to be remotely or in person, and we ended up making it happen in person.
And it's going to be amazing.
This is another one of those situations where you sit down with a person who, up until now, only existed on the interwebs and only existed on the interwebs because of the most harrowing...
The experience and then the most, I would say, traumatizing legal experience that followed Kyle Rittenhouse.
We're going to do this in person today and it's going to be fantastic.
Kyle, I don't think anybody who's watching needs an introduction, but thank you for doing this and thank you for being here.
How are you?
I'm doing good, Viva.
How are you doing?
I'm glad to finally be on the show.
It's been a long time coming.
We've been following the story, but we talk about it like it's a story.
And you're a human behind the two years.
How many years ago did this happen now?
Almost three years ago, August 25th of 2020, so two and a half years ago.
Realizing that it's not a face on the screen, it's not an account on Twitter, it's a human here.
It's almost difficult to appreciate, but surreal in its realness, I guess.
We're going to start from the beginning, because like...
We're going to get into all this.
I saw you on Rakeda.
I know what I'm going to ask.
I know what I'm not going to ask.
I think one thing that is obviously clear about you, you are sincerely a good person, and it's going to sound shocking to people.
The way you refuse to engage in any sort of bad-mouthing or anything that can be resembled it, I appreciate that.
I'm not going to push any of the questions where I saw you reluctantly decline to answer certain questions, but I've got stuff.
We watched the trial beginning to end.
The one thing that I never really got out of the trial, that never came out of the testimony, who are you?
We know you're from Kenosha.
We know a little bit about you, but what did your parents do?
What was life like growing up?
How many siblings?
Who are you?
Well, I grew up in Wisconsin and Illinois, jumped house to house, lived in a low-income family, a single-mom household.
My mom worked.
A lot of hours.
I worked.
Two sisters.
I was passionate about the things I did.
I was passionate about being a police explorer and firefighter cadet and my job as a lifeguard.
May I delve into the childhood stuff?
Single mother.
Where's your father?
What happened to your father?
He lives in Wisconsin.
And so divorced at a young age?
Separated.
How many siblings?
Two.
Two others or you and someone else?
Two sisters.
Two sisters.
You're the youngest?
Middle.
Okay, and now what is life like growing up with two girls?
Well, you're growing up in an all-woman household.
Yes.
What is that like?
Very interesting.
20 years old means you're born in 2003.
That blows my mind.
I was graduating law school in 2003.
What is life like growing up in...
Kenosha, Illinois, single mother.
Like, what do you do as a kid?
Like, you're still sort of a kid, but what did you do as a child?
Well, it's the Midwest, so we have cornfields and dairy farms, what it seems like.
We have Chicago, so sometimes you go down to the city, go to Chicago and Milwaukee, but we were really close to the waterfront as well, Lake Michigan, so go to the beach sometimes, and there's a lot of small lakes you can go swimming at, and did that for fun.
When I was around 16, 17, I'd start going to like car shows, car meets, hanging out there and going to the beach with friends.
And when you grow up in small town rural areas, are you near other friends or is it sort of not a lonely existence, but it's not congregated children playing in the streets?
By small town, I mean like not like Miami or like New York or Chicago.
Like small little villages, if you would say.
Not like...
Houses that are two miles away.
Very cool.
And now, let me ask, before you get into the night that, I won't say defined your life, but defined the trajectory of your life short and probably long term, were you into hunting as a child?
I'm from Montreal, Canada, so my cousins hunted, but it wasn't something that I got into growing up.
Were you into that as of a child?
I've never been hunting as a child.
Okay.
And so how do you get into having an interest in policing, I guess, policing and firearms in general?
The events of that night were not the first time you handled a firearm.
I presume you had experience with that growing up, and when did that happen?
Well, I've had very little experience handling a firearm.
I've shot that rifle maybe once.
Put a couple hundred rounds through it once or twice.
And I just got into wanting to be a police officer because I wanted to help people.
I wanted to go out in communities and I wanted to be like the good guy and just protect people.
And so when this happens now, you're 20 now, this happens when you're 17. What's going on in the world?
I mean, 16, 17-year-olds typically are not even necessarily aware of what's going on politically in the world.
What is life like at that point in time for you, where you're living, given the summer of love, all that stuff?
What's going on in your neighborhood?
How is it affecting you?
How is it affecting neighbors?
And how do you get involved in that?
Well, so in Wisconsin and Illinois, there weren't many riots at first when George Floyd happened.
There was a few protests.
Stuff like that.
Chicago was rioting.
Minnesota.
And we were seeing this all on the news and unfolding.
These major cities burning down.
And nobody was really thinking that this would come to a small town like Kenosha.
And then Jacob Blake happened.
And then Kenosha was on fire.
And people were devastated to see their community and my community being burned down.
So I think people wanted to help by cleaning graffiti, putting out fires, and protecting small businesses.
That this all occurred.
There had been two or three nights prior of burning to the ground, looting, vandalism.
Yes.
What does that feel like?
What does the neighborhood feel like while that's happening?
Do you feel totally isolated in that it doesn't seem like anybody's doing anything, like authorities are doing nothing to help or stop it?
It didn't seem like authorities were doing much.
I can't really comment on much because I am facing a civil lawsuit.
I don't know if you've heard, but unfortunately our motion for dismissal got denied, so dealing with that.
So you're being sued by, I think it's the father of Anthony Huber, who's the skateboard, the individual who struck you with the skateboard?
Yes.
That's a wrongful death lawsuit.
There was a motion to dismiss.
The motion to dismiss was dismissed, and it can proceed to discovery.
So I don't want to get into too many questions about, let's say, the night, we saw your testimony.
I mean, we saw what happened.
I guess the bottom line question is people, Ricada asked you the same question, Nick Ricada, for anybody who doesn't know, you know, why even do what you did?
And the answer was, you know, I wanted to help, I wanted to clean up.
I'm looking at you, I'm saying like, was there any part of your...
Any part of your existence that thought that what could happen could possibly have happened?
Were you anticipating that anybody would just turn on you and start to try to assault you?
I did not think I was going to be attacked.
I didn't think I was going to have to defend my life and be forced to take two lives.
This is another thing people don't appreciate.
I think there were a number of people watching the trial when you were on the stand and you started talking about it.
Some people probably don't know what anxiety looks like or what any form of bonafide PTSD looks like.
The evening when it starts escalating, what goes through your mind when you say, holy cows, this is now getting very dangerous for me and I had no idea?
What does that feel like internally?
Well, I just saw a lot of things on fire and then, again, I can't get into too much.
As you know, you're with being a lawyer.
So here, we'll move on there.
Let me ask you this, because I don't think many people talk about this.
After the events, we've seen the video, we saw the trial, we saw the acquittal.
You turned yourself in, or you tried to the night of, couldn't find anybody, and then the next day you go to the police station?
So what happened was I attempted to turn myself in to Kenosha police there where I was pepper sprayed and told to go home.
So what I did, I did what they said.
I went home and then I turned myself in to the Antioch Police Department.
I didn't turn myself in to the Kenosha Police Department because it was boarded off and they weren't accepting visitors.
When you turn yourself in, this is something that I just, we know that you were in jail for a long time, but I don't think I've ever heard you discuss like what happened in that experience.
You turn yourself in.
When do you get to go home after turning yourself in before you're back in jail?
I turn myself in.
I am sitting in the lobby with my mom, and then several hours, Kenosha police detectives come in.
They Mirandize me.
I take five.
And then I am arrested, charged.
I don't know what I was charged with yet.
They just said I was being arrested and charged, and then I ask, what are the charges?
And they say, well, we don't know yet.
And then I was taken to Deputy Juvenile Detention Center where I went on to fight extradition, ultimately losing.
Not going to get into much about that.
Then I was transferred to Kenosha County Detention Center, the pretrial facility where I was held until I had...
Until I have raised enough money to post bail, which was $2 million.
And then I was released on November 20th of 2020.
So released on November 20th.
What date did you turn yourself in on again?
August 28th.
The night of August 25th.
So you're in August to September, three months in...
87 days.
87 days.
The first facility, what was that called again?
A detention center?
Depke Juno Detention Center.
Can you tell anybody who's never been what that experience is possibly like?
The food's a lot better there than Kenosha County Jail.
It's interesting.
There are a lot of kids there for a lot of bad things.
At the juvenile detention center, it was very controlled, what it seemed like.
They had a very controlled environment.
Hands out of pockets, walking down the hallways.
Your hands had to be behind your back.
You weren't allowed to touch anybody.
You can play cards.
You can read books.
You can watch TV.
When you weren't doing school.
Like, I think it was five, six hours of mandatory school each day where we'd go into the classroom and learn.
Let me ask a stupid question.
How was the five to six hours of school?
How was the teaching?
It was online.
Okay.
It was all online through programs.
It was very, very interesting.
So, I mean, it's surreal, and I think my nightmare is being detained in, you know, like...
Not say like an animal in a bad way, just like to be in a cage.
Your five to six hours online learning, is that in a cell or is that in a classroom?
It's in a classroom setting, but then we do have cells.
We go to cells at nighttime or if something happens or if they just feel like putting us up.
And then at Kenosha County Jail, I was held in a cell 24-7.
This is all day, every day.
I maybe left the cell every other day for an hour to visit my lawyers.
Can I ask, let's just get some visuals here.
You're in a cell.
How big is the cell?
Can you touch both sides of the walls with your arms?
No, it's not that big.
They put me in a medical unit cell, so it had a shower, which didn't work, and a sink and a toilet, and then a desk, and then a metal bed with a four-inch thick mattress on it.
Why was it 24-7?
Is this for your security?
I was in protective custody.
A lot of people wanted to cause me harm in jail.
I don't know if you know who jailhouse lawyers are, but they had me greenlit, so they were worried about that.
I don't know who jailhouse...
I think I know roughly what was going on, but what's jailhouse lawyers and what does greenlit mean?
Well, jailhouse lawyers is like some organization, but greenlit means they want to have you killed.
Okay.
There was a tweet circulating from them saying, if anybody has a location on Kyle Rittenhouse's cell, let us know.
I'm going to ask the obvious question, but I'm going to ask it nonetheless.
Do you appreciate what that means in real time, or do you not really even understand the severity of that threat?
I understand that is a pretty big threat.
That is somebody saying, hey, let's figure out his cell because once we get Locke on it, we're going to have people go in and take care of him.
By take care, I mean kill me.
How do you internalize that as you're there?
I was just like, well, it's out of my control.
I have to trust that the prison guards are going to protect me and that whatever happens is God's plan.
Let me ask you this also.
Prison guards, do you get the impression they are...
Adversarial, or are they conceptually supportive?
Most of them were pretty supportive, what it seems.
There's one person who I don't think really liked me.
Every time he put me in handcuffs, he cranked him down and dragged me a little bit.
This was actually a question I...
It's a good...
I mean, it's a segue.
You talked about a faith in God with Rakeda.
I know you talk about it, and I...
Is your faith newfound, or were you brought up religious with the faith in some protective power?
I've always been a Christian, but my Christianity has definitely strengthened through the situation.
Learning to fall on God in the hardest times, and just learning to trust Him.
When you're in jail?
Are you reading the Bible?
Yes.
I want to read the Bible.
I'm not a religious person.
I think I might be spiritual.
The lessons from the Bible are timeless, and I think they can help people contextualize things.
Did you start from page one and go to the end?
I did.
I read it in pieces.
I did my best.
The Bible is a big book, and it is a lot to digest, especially on your own, and I'm still trying to learn to digest it all, and I have people I'm working with to try to learn everything the Bible is trying to teach us and apply it in everyday life.
I was actually just listening to Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan most recently on the way down here.
And I think he said the Bible's not a book.
It's a library and, you know, a compilation of books.
And he was explaining the story of Exodus and how it applies in today's day and age as well.
Okay, so you're in jail 24-7 in a protective cell alone.
So no jailmate or cellmate.
You get out.
Every other day for...
Do you get sunlight?
Do you get exercise?
Do you get to shower?
Like, life.
What's it like when you're doing that?
When I was in Kenosha County Jail, I didn't shower at all.
I didn't see sunlight at all while I was at Kenosha County Jail.
At Depke, I had a small window, like maybe two foot by three.
And it had two small slits, like two inches wide.
You can barely see outside.
And the window is a little bit scratched off, but you can make out what was outside.
And I would, like, watch, like, the wind, and I'd be like, wow, I want to go outside.
Because you take for granted on little things like going for a walk or going to sit outside, like, fresh air.
If you take for granted the fresh air you breathe.
Let me ask you this.
Would you have preferred to have the window or no window because of the temptation to see what's out there is more frustrating than not seeing it?
Well, I liked having the window because you would get really bored in the cell and then that just gave you something to do.
Just like watch outside.
So you're in there for three months.
Was it always protective?
Were you always basically 24-7 until you got out?
I always was.
In protective custody the entire time from the incident to I was bailed out.
They had somebody constantly with me.
They had two people with me no matter what.
There was always somebody.
I'm going to ask my own neurotic questions.
Were you sleeping?
Were you coping with this?
Or is this three months of absolute psychological trauma?
It was absolute psychological trauma, especially going back to Kenosha and then a lot of sleepless nights at Depke.
What's Depke?
Depke Juvenile Detention Center.
And I didn't sleep for like the first two and a half weeks.
I was restless and exhausted and traumatized and scared.
I didn't know what was happening.
I didn't know what people were saying.
I didn't know what was going on on the outside.
It was scary.
I was a 17-year-old kid.
Not knowing what the rest of my life was going to look like.
And that was hard to grasp.
Three months, when you're in the 24-7, what are you getting?
There's no schooling there.
There's no nothing?
No internet?
No connection to the outside world?
I had a tablet.
With connection to the internet?
Decent connection?
Or you're able to at least know something of the existence of the outside world?
So I had a jail tablet.
So it had, like, you can watch, like, certain types of movies.
Like, I think there's, like, 45 movies you can choose from.
Like, 20 TV shows.
But it was, like, a season of, like, The Office or something.
And, like, scattered.
It was, like, a random season.
So you could start from point A and go all the way to Z with all that.
And, like, there was games on it.
What else?
You can make phone calls.
On that tablet, you had to pay for.
But you had news.
You could read the news if you paid for the subscription.
Did you do that?
Yeah.
I paid for the subscription.
I was reading the news.
I was like, what the?
You're paying for the privilege to see what is being said about you wrongly in the media.
Yes.
And I presume you didn't avoid your own story while you were in this.
Oh, no.
So you're paying to have access to the...
Call it arguable defamation.
Some people say it's outright and other people say it's nothing.
You're reading this as you're on the inside.
Yeah, I read it, a couple of them, and I'm like, that's not true.
They can't say that.
I think the day you were acquitted, I think it was The Independent or The Guardian that still reasserted that you were found not guilty of having shot, or I think they said shot or killed three black men.
At a BLM protest.
I believe that was The Guardian.
Was The Guardian?
I've been following it, but I get lost between the misinformation from every one of the MSMs out there.
And you'll tell me if you don't want to get too far into it.
Just the night the incident happens, everything happens, what happens happens, you flee to safety.
What is going through your mind after that all happens?
Is this like a nightmare where you...
Some part of you is convincing yourself that this didn't just happen?
It was an absolute nightmare.
My heart was pounding.
My adrenaline was pumping.
I didn't know what was going to happen next.
I was terrified.
I was just almost killed in the street.
I was scared.
I was scared and didn't know what was going to happen.
Alright, so now you're three months in pre-trial detention.
You finally get out after having raised, and then there's no shade on anybody here.
Three months in, you get the $2 million bond, which is you need to put up the whole $2 million because it wasn't the 10% like under the bail system from what I understand.
Once that goes up and you get out, is it tasting freedom again or is it experiencing a new type of terror now?
It was a little bit of a taste of freedom when I first got out, not being restricted, not being shackled wherever you go.
I remember it.
So I remember getting bailed out.
I remember them coming to get me, and they're saying, hey, pack up your cell.
I'm like, where are we going?
At this point, I'm thinking I'm going to Kenosha Detention Center, which is the bigger facility that is not attached to the core.
So I pack up my cell.
They put me in handcuffs.
They take me downstairs to the holding cell, and then they unhandcuff me, and then I sign some paperwork.
And then they give me my property back and say, change out.
And they don't handcuff me again.
And they put me in the back of a white van, drive me to the detention center where I meet, security detail, and then...
Security detail as in your security detail.
Yeah.
So that now they're saying, we're here, here's security, and you're going to go into hiding effectively until you stand trial.
Yeah.
And...
Did that.
Drove, like...
Three hours, three, four hours from Kenosha to Indiana and ate my first meal.
I ate my first meal.
Where did you go?
Well, I had chicken nuggets, but then when I got back to the safe house, I had a steak.
On a barbecue, like a grilled steak?
No.
Or were you ordered from a restaurant?
It was from Outback.
Yeah, that's not a bad steak.
Okay, they could make steaks.
And what did it taste like?
Best meal you've ever had?
It was pretty good, but I got really sick.
I didn't know that eating certain types...
I was on the jail diet, and I didn't know that that can mess up your stomach to not just go ham and eat a bunch of food that you haven't eaten in three months, especially red meat.
Did you vomit?
I vomited.
I was curled up on the couch, and I was just like, I don't feel good.
It is...
I forget what book it was that I read.
It was one of the few books that I actually read with my eyes, but it was about prisoners being released from detention centers during times of war.
And, you know, their bodies had gotten used to not, you know, decreased caloric intake, you know, bad diets.
What's the word?
Malnutrition.
I was 140 pounds when I got bailed out.
I went in weighing 200.
Well, I say there's...
That's not a SlimFast diet that anybody should ever get on.
60 pounds in three months.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then the first thing you do is chow down on a very heavy, greasy meal, and it makes you not deathly, but seriously ill.
Yeah.
I was sick, and it was not fun.
And then, so what?
I mean, you get out now.
You're living...
I don't want to say in hiding, but virtually in hiding.
Yes.
With your mother siblings?
Yeah.
Is that as bad now as it was immediately after, at the time of the incident?
Not as bad.
I still don't tell people where I live for obvious reasons.
But...
I don't really like...
I go out.
I go to friends' houses and I'll go to the grocery store.
Yes, I still receive harassment constantly.
I get constant death threats.
It's hard to go out.
I don't like it, but I can't afford a 24-7 security detail.
So I'm kind of on my own in this situation.
Obvious questions here also.
It's not a question that you suffer from PTSD in the most clinical senses.
Are you seeing therapists?
Are you seeing therapists now?
How do you cope with...
Yes, I'm seeing therapists and talking to people, talking to people with similar situations, people who have been forced to defend their lives, and just having a support group around me.
And does therapy help?
It does.
It does help to talk about it and to just release your feelings and, like, decompress what's going on and having, like, I don't want to say safe space, but having a safe space.
And there's a form, I forget what it's called, EDMI, the eye movement.
Laser eye therapy thing.
It's something about controlling eye movement.
Yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but I really do want to try it.
And then cognitive behavioral therapy, have they given you any of that?
Well, that's like...
Rewiring the brain, as my wife would say, because I presume there are things that trigger immediate flashbacks, immediate sensorial reliving of the experience?
Yes.
Sounds, smells, random things?
Yeah, crowds, certain smells, like whenever I smell something burning, and then just certain things, like if I see something, it'll trigger it, but...
And does that, for anybody who's never experienced that, does that fear of the triggering of the response cause you to not do things now?
Would you say that you're reluctant to do things because of the fear of triggering a memory?
I would say so, a little bit.
But what really happens is I get cold sweats and my body shivers up and my heart rate just drops.
Just a little bit of a fear, if that makes sense.
It not only makes sense.
I've always wondered how people can get over immensely traumatic experiences and not having a baseline of comparison of you before the events versus now.
In the obvious sense, how has it changed you?
How has it changed your perspective on the world?
Well, my perspective on the world has changed dramatically, and at one, I never knew how political this world was.
I always had this sense that people are inherently good.
I've always had that since I was little.
I don't have that anymore.
I have the opposite.
I'm like, okay, people are inherently bad in a way.
What do they want?
What is their ulterior motive?
Not all people.
I believe there are a lot of good people.
But being attacked, knowing that somebody is wanting to cause harm to you and try to take your life, is a real eye-opener.
It's scary to think that there are a lot of people in this world like that.
And I know you'll offer whatever elaboration that you want after this, not a diatribe, but when I looked at the situation, I think I've been cynical for a little bit longer, but this...
Didn't help anything, but there's tears here.
There's the three individuals who assaulted you.
That level of bad people, I think probably mentally unwell and a number of other issues.
Then there's the political manipulation of an incident, which even at the time, New York Times, I forget who the journalist was, but put out a detailed analysis that it was self-defense, the clearest cut cases of self-defense, and this was a left-leaning...
I'm relatively certain it was the New York Times.
And despite that, because of the political weaponization of everything, the media still went out of its way to depict you in a way that was 1,000% inaccurate.
Hide the facts.
Sorry?
Hide the facts.
And so there's levels.
It's like a tiramisu of evil, where you have the evil of the individuals, and that's fine.
You could write that off if the rest of the world were sane and said, okay.
Maybe I wouldn't have gone there with a gun.
I wouldn't have, and I would have deterred my kids from doing it.
But that's one thing.
But once that's happened, let's just be realistic about it.
But they're not.
And then they weaponized it.
They demonized you.
They used it for political purposes and destroyed your life a second time after three random criminals tried to destroy it the first time.
How do you...
You're young, and you have...
Still you have hope in your eyes.
It's good to see.
You don't seem to be broken or cynical to the point of no return.
How do you channel this to live the rest of your life without bitterness, without anger, and productively?
Well, I realize that I have a pretty big platform to where I can use my voice to help push things that I believe in.
Hopefully make positive change and make the world a better place in a way, like getting politicians that are favorable to the things I believe in, like pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, Christian-type politicians in to pass better laws and make America a better place to live and hopefully educate people in a way.
Show people what it means, what the right to self-defense means, and just try to use my platform for good.
Any hope or aspiration of getting into policing?
No.
It's impossible.
And nothing that's going to bring back any of the memories of the events of that night?
I don't want to go into law enforcement.
I don't want to be a first responder.
And so now I know you don't, well, there was a whole incident with you're going to go to university and then it becomes known what university you're going to and then you experience, you know, people's stubborn unwillingness to the same crowd that argues for criminal justice reform, forgiving convicted criminals, not acquitted innocent individuals, are now basically, for lack of a better word, stalking you everywhere you go and making it impossible for you to live a normal life.
Yeah, yeah, that is very, very, very true.
People don't want to see me secede.
They don't want me to go to school, but they're saying felons should be allowed to go to school, which I agree with.
Everybody has a right to an education.
But then me, a free man, acquitted no criminal history other than two traffic tickets from when I was before my incident.
And they don't want me to go to school.
I did nothing wrong.
And then they protest to get me kicked out, and then...
The first school, no shade on the school again, because I know you're a good person that doesn't like...
I think besmirching might not be the right word, but speaking ill of, first school, did they say this is not going to work, or did you say this is not going to work and I'm just going to leave?
Well, they gave me a compassionate withdrawal, and then I was...
Compassionate withdrawal?
Please elaborate.
What the heck does that mean?
It means they took me out of my classes.
They didn't fail you for leaving.
You can leave and we won't fail you for the rest of the semester.
They were like, yeah, we're just going to withdraw you.
And I was like, oh my goodness, whatever.
They came out and they're not allowed to do this.
I forget what the law is called, but they commented on something about my education and you're not allowed to do that.
And that ticks me off a little bit.
And then I made the mistake a second time of announcing where I was going to school.
And then people started throwing a fit and like, no, we can't have this person come to our school.
And now I'm in college, but I am not announcing where I go to college.
Once bitten, twice shy, and third time, you should have learned from the first two.
And who was it?
There was one person tweeting who wasn't even your professor saying they were going to keep an eye on you, if I remember this correctly.
Do you remember that?
I follow the Twitterverse.
I'm not sure how...
There was one professor who was not even your professor, but saying, I'm going to follow this student.
I think it was your situation.
It was you, I'm not sure, but may I ask what you're studying now?
Right now, I'm just focused on learning a lot about business.
I feel like that is a very, very valuable skill to have, and I'm not great at math or English.
I'm just trying to get caught up to a point to where I can prepare myself for success.
That's good.
If I had a regret, it was not doing an MBA before law because being a lawyer and not under...
Well, I've learned how business works, but an MBA is probably the most useful degree you can get because it's like the basis for a functioning society.
What type of lawyer are you, Viva?
I did commercial litigation for 13 years.
So no criminal, no tax, and no family.
So just a contracts dispute in Quebec.
That's where I think I started getting my black pill, but I didn't...
Everyone, I should say, I'm red-pilled but not black-pilled yet, but seeing the way the world works, it's eye-opening, and you got the steepest of learning curves at the youngest of ages because you're a young, idealistic kid who thinks I can help, and there's not people who are just hell-bent on destruction.
What do you do now for fun and for relaxation?
Um...
What do I do for fun?
I know Nick was giving...
Some people were giving you some heartache for those TikTok videos, which I think it's innocent.
I just think TikTok should be avoided at all costs because nothing good comes out of TikTok.
But what do you mean?
You have to do something now to distract and to fulfill?
I go wakeboarding.
I wakeboard with my friend at AF Wake.
He helps run the place.
I have a lot of fun out there on Lake Gaston during the summertime.
I snowboard in the winter.
Other than that, I just try to hang out with friends and just go over to their house, play games, like card games, Monopoly, that type of stuff.
Normal 20-year-old college kid stuff.
And I hate to ask, they're not uncomfortable, it's just hard because I go to your Twitter feed and I see it's just filled with toxicity.
And people are going to say, what do you expect under the circumstances?
And I was listening.
It was, again, it was Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan talking about, like, the, he called it the triad, or basically, you know, the culmination of all things evil, narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism, where people go online anonymously, strictly with the intention to destroy, and not only do they not get, I say punished, they don't suffer social consequences, they actually get rewarded for it.
I guess, do you deal with it, and how do you deal with it?
Well, I get a lot of hate comments, but I look at it like, they're promoting my content for me.
That is the truth about the bad chatter.
That's what Twitter is.
It thrives on negative interactions.
From a cynical perspective, it drives engagement.
But, I mean, it has to take a psychological toll.
A little bit.
I look at some of the comments and I just say, how ignorant of the facts can you be?
How can you not?
Watch the video and then go out and comment and say something completely false and opposite.
And not only does it not get corrected, it gets retweeted and it continues to promote the misinformation.
Let me ask you this now.
So where do you see yourself in 5, 10, short, medium, long, well forget the long term, nobody can tell.
Short, medium term.
What do you have on the agenda?
Well, the short term is get through this lawsuit.
Now, I know you can't go into too much of it.
I familiarize myself with it.
But it is, at its base, wrongful death lawsuit by Anthony Huberman's father.
How much are they asking for?
Amount to be determined at trial?
Yeah, I'm not going to discuss that.
And there was a motion to dismiss.
Do you know the basis of the motion to dismiss?
It was a motion to dismiss.
To quash for service because I don't believe I was properly served.
I wasn't served physically.
I was never handed the paperwork.
They served it to my sister at a house I don't live at.
The rules of procedure are a double-edged sword.
They can cut both ways and they can apply both ways or they can find exceptions.
The judge found you were properly served.
Yes.
And you're not going to dismiss.
You're going to go to discovery because there might be some...
We respect the judge's decision.
We are disappointed, but we respect it.
Who's helping you with this?
Who's your lawyer in this file now?
The attorneys from Nelson Mullins.
And what was I going to say?
It was about the dismissal of it.
Legal fees.
Sorry.
People don't understand this either.
Well, here's your expense.
And you're following the events of that night.
Your life, I mean, it's consisted of crowdsourcing to defend yourself.
One, on the criminal.
And once that was over, people think, okay, you've got your freedom back.
But the way lawfare works is not so fast.
When did you get served with the civil lawsuit?
I want to say...
Just so that there's no admission.
When did you get this?
When did you become aware of this lawsuit?
In June.
Forget the challenging the service.
It started in June.
June, July.
You were acquitted.
It's over a year ago now that you were acquitted.
Yep.
And is this the only family that's suing you thus far for wrongful death?
Yes.
Okay.
So not dismissed and now you have to go through with this.
And so you need...
You're raising legal funds for your defense.
Yes, I'm raising funds to help pay for this lawsuit.
I'm in a mountain of legal debt already and I'm only 20 years old.
And it's stressful and it's hard.
But you can go to www.givecentgo.com forward slash coward in house to help me pay for my lawyers and make sure that they don't win.
That's what they're trying to do.
They're trying to drown me in a mountain of debt and make sure I can't defend this lawsuit.
It's scary.
Ask a silly question.
Are you working now?
I can't really work.
I think my work, the career I was thrown into, in a way is going out, doing speaking engagements, and doing podcasts and media.
I asked that question.
I thought the answer was obvious because it's not like...
I don't know what employer would want to take on the headache of having to deal with the onslaught of online harassment that would invariably come from hiring.
The Rittenhouse.
The name, by the way, Rittenhouse, it's of Germanic descent, right?
Yes.
And I think, I looked it up, it means a house that's built on a slope.
If I'm not mistaken, so, sorry, now that I'm remembering this, one other question.
When all of these accusations of racism and white supremacy motivating this thing, there were rumors online that you might have had Hispanic or Latino either blood or family members.
I'm German and Irish.
Okay.
Rittenhouse is your dad's last name.
Yes.
Okay.
So yeah, you're not unemployable, although maybe that would be the way to qualify it, but you're doing speaking engagements, you're doing advocacy work, and now you need to rely on crowdfunding to actually defend yourself from the second bout of this, what many people think is an outright legal injustice.
What's the next step in the lawsuit that it'll be discovery now?
I think so.
It's recently.
The dismissal of the motion to dismiss was just the other day, right?
Yes.
It's still news?
Yep.
And it's the coping aspect of this, and not coping in the sense that it's the healing and getting over this.
Other than the speaking, what do you do now to try to make yourself whole?
Do you feel that you can ever make yourself spiritually and psychologically whole from the trauma of that night?
Well, just going through the right steps.
Talking about it, going to therapy, and trying to live as normal as I can.
Trying to live a normal life.
Hanging out with friends who don't want me because of fame.
People that just want to be my friend because they think I'm a cool guy.
Do you find...
Are people afraid to be your friend?
Not where I live.
I have maybe three, four good friends where I live that are my age, and I don't think they're afraid to be my friend.
They're very protective of me.
They don't want anybody to hurt me.
They don't want anybody to harass me, and I'm glad for them.
I'm thankful for the friends I do have.
And your parents and your siblings, how have they dealt with the fallout of this?
It's been stressful on them, but they're doing all right.
Now here, so the bigger question.
Any aspirations of getting involved in politics?
No.
None whatsoever?
Interesting.
I wasn't expecting.
I had many follow-up questions for that.
Let me ask you another question.
I know you don't like anything that can be considered insulting or criticizing others, and I'm not asking in that respect.
There are people who say...
Who view you not as like a trophy, but people who think that you might be getting turned into something that either that you're not or that you should not be turned into in terms of a, I say a role model for lack of a better word.
My view of this is, you know, for what you went through, you deserve neither praise nor criticism.
But do you get the impression that people are trying to, say, exploit or use you as a figurehead for their own political purposes?
And how does that make you feel if you notice that trend?
Yeah, I have.
I've noticed a lot of people want to use me for who I am and try to make money off of me and exploit me in different types of ways.
But I just cut those people out of my life and don't associate with them.
And then the left and right uses me on both sides.
They pull me whichever direction they want.
The left uses me as a puppet, the right puts me on a pedestal in a way, in certain ways, and tries to...
Everybody seems to use me in a way, to push their own narrative, if that makes sense.
It makes sense, and then the question is, I guess, how does that change your approach to dealing with people and to leading life?
Is your goal, is your biggest wish right now either to not disappear into anonymity, to live a normal life that is not going to be...
Built on this event?
Or do you accept that that may not be possible and that you're going to use your experience for the most productive manner possible?
I'm going to use my experience for the most productive manner possible.
Okay, now I'm going to look over here.
There was a chat here, but the thing went dead.
Do I have my phone?
I was going to go to locals and see if we have any questions, but Kyle, did I forget to ask anything?
Let's try to...
I want to get a good memory here.
Best memory of childhood.
Best memory of childhood.
That when you were in jail and you're in there for three months and you're...
I mean, it's...
My imagination is going to go...
You have to have a happy space, a happy place, a memory that you just reflexively go to to try to get through the moment?
Going to the beach.
I love swimming.
I love the beach.
I love the sand.
That was one of my memories that I reflected on.
Just going and hanging out, throwing a football around in the water.
That was a memory I reflected deeply on.
And how far into the Bible have you gotten by this point?
Have you gotten through the whole thing?
I've read bits and pieces.
I really want to absorb what I'm reading and learn to apply it in everyday life What it's telling me to do and what it's saying.
Okay, now, I don't know how many verses or how many chapters you've read.
What's your favorite or the most important verse, passage, or section?
I don't know how it works, but what is the one that has given you the most meaning and guidance as of now?
Well, my favorite verse is, Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.
Because when...
When I was a police explorer, I was like, I consider police officers peacemakers, and I was like, they're protecting people, and it just really stuck out to me, and I really liked it.
It was very inspirational to me.
Okay, good.
Now, one person actually got a question that I forgot to ask.
Defamation lawsuits, are you allowed talking about those?
So, we're working on filing them.
I know it's been a long time, but...
What is the...
I mean, you have a lawyer, so I presume they're not going to go past the statute of limitations.
Time bars...
It's about two, three years, so we got time.
Okay.
We have time.
Who's on the...
Todd McMurtry.
Oh, no, Todd McMurtry.
Todd McMurtry.
Okay, I remember his name from the other lawsuits, but...
Who's on the list of media to receive?
Facebook, CNN, MSNBC, Whoopi, people who defamed me, people who called me a murderer, white supremacists.
Those are the people we're going after.
We really, really have to focus on anti-slap laws because we don't want to go in and end up losing a lawsuit and then getting hit with a slap law and then having to pay the other side.
So that's what we're really studying.
That's what we're getting the legalities of and trying to get the right venue and just make sure that the paperwork is right, organized, and we have a strong base for when we file.
Do I even want to ask you to dredge up the accusations?
Who has said the worst things?
I mean, what did Whoopi Goldberg say?
Do you remember offhand?
She called me a murderer after the acquittal.
Yes.
It's not to be a lawyer, but...
Beforehand, suspect, accused, or beforehand maybe people think you're a murderer.
You get acquitted, and it never goes away, and it's a factually, legally incorrect statement, and there's going to be some legal uphill battles as to whether or not you are, as they say, defamation-proof because of what happened.
Okay, so Whoopi Goldberg, Facebook.
Facebook, they did something particularly agreeable.
So Mark Zuckerberg called me a mass murderer.
So Facebook, I believe, violated Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act.
So what they did is they allowed comments for hate to be up, but they did not let comments for support be up, and they didn't even let them use my name.
And Section 230 allows Facebook to remove certain things.
But we don't believe it allows you to remove somebody's complete name from the algorithm and anything that's newsworthy.
So we believe it violated it.
Nothing's been filed yet against Facebook?
Nothing yet.
But we are working on researching Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to file it against Facebook.
Yes, with some of the...
Twitter files that have come out, there's going to be the argument as to, you know, under certain circumstances, whether or not they were acting as bona fide state actors under the coercion or bribery of the government.
But in these cases, I mean, there hasn't been a court yet that has stripped any, that has minimized the Section 230 immunity whatsoever.
But is it not mind-blowing?
And the most frustrating thing on earth is that there's the freedom to defame, but not even the freedom to defend.
And, I mean, GoFundMe shut down your fundraiser as well back in the early days?
Yep, that is correct.
I think that was the first time we heard of it.
They don't allow fundraising for alleged violent crimes.
Notwithstanding, there were some examples, some exceptions to that rule?
There were a lot of exceptions to that rule, such as if you fit GoFundMe's narrative or agenda.
Then you can crowdfund if you committed a violent crime.
Like, there was this person who shot a little boy in the head, and I think he raised $20,000 on GoFundMe.
I don't know if you remember that.
No, I remember there were...
I don't remember specific incidents, but I remember it, and that there were concrete examples where people...
And, you know, my view...
It's a tough one.
I had this discussion with the CEO or the owner of Give, Send, Go.
Right.
You know, it's a Christian website, a Christian fundraiser.
And I said, well, what would you not allow because of your beliefs?
And he said, you know, barring one specific example, even potential or accused sinners deserve a chance at redemption.
So people accused even of violent crimes, if you deny them their ability to raise funds, you're not going to get a fair trial.
Exactly.
And you're compromising the system itself by prejudging and preconvicting.
You know, guiding a specific conclusion.
So actually, after GoFundMe shuts you down, this is early on, how did you manage?
Give, send, go, I don't think was an option back then?
It was.
Give, send, go, we were able to, in the beginning, raise, I think, a little over half a million dollars to help defend this criminal case.
And then payment processors, like...
Shut you down.
That shut us down.
But there was websites up, like Free Kyle USA was one.
It's no longer up, but we raised money through that to help defend me in court.
Now, okay, and I'll ask you this, because some people might go back and look and say, holy crap, apples, you've raised an aggregate of millions of dollars.
You haven't gotten rich off this.
I don't have a million dollars.
I am not wealthy.
I'm actually in debt, so...
Amazing.
The funds for the civil suit, what are you up to now?
I think we just hit $80,000 today, actually.
Okay.
Not bad.
I'm in the chat in locals.
This is our locals community.
They're reasonable people.
But I don't know that I'm going to read.
Someone says you're up to $82,000 now.
We shared it around this morning.
Chat.
If you have any questions, put them in here.
I'm going to see what I can get to.
Oh, yes.
Have you started a YouTube channel?
I'm still learning how to...
I don't know how to do this stuff.
I'm like...
I'm confused.
I don't know how to edit a video.
I filmed like four Q&As just redoing them, and I can't get it right.
I'm still working on it, so I promised it was going to come.
It's still going to come.
I just have to figure it out.
I'm going to send you a video from Casey Neistat, which was the number one advice that even I employed at the time, and it was how to succeed at YouTube.
Three words, just keep uploading.
And then the other expression, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
And I know Rakata was ribbing you as to what the subject matter of the channel is going to be.
Are you into fishing?
I assume everyone has to love fishing.
I love fishing.
I was blessed.
I got to go on a halibut fishing trip with a friend.
Which Atlantic coast?
In San Francisco with my great friends from Nevada at Nevada Firearms Academy.
This is recently?
Yeah, several months ago.
How big did you catch?
He was huge.
Like 80 pound?
Like massive?
It wasn't an 80 pound halibut.
It was like a 25 pound halibut.
Even still, they fight like the devil.
It was fun.
And then I caught a crab.
While fishing?
While fishing.
I caught a crab.
Did you keep the crab?
I did not keep the crab.
You kept the halibut?
I kept the halibut.
And you grilled it up fresh?
We had blackened halibut and blackened halibut tacos.
You see, my...
When I think YouTube...
First of all, I'll help you with the YouTube.
The editing and all the stuff that people...
It's impossible.
I'll say, I'll help you with the rumble because the online content creation, it's cathartic.
It gets you out of your mental framework.
It gets you outside.
And, you know, it's awesome.
The phishing market on the interwebs is sort of saturated already, so you have to have an angle to it, but it will...
We'll talk when the cameras are off because it must be done.
You must be doing it sooner than later and not letting the fear of perfection get in the way of just getting it done.
All right, perfect.
What else?
Civil lawsuits.
You only have one, but it's going to be lawfare for a while.
You're healing and you're getting on with life.
Let me see if I had...
Did I miss anything that you absolutely want to say?
I think you covered it all.
Give me two minutes to go to the chat.
What I hate the most, this took a long time to coordinate, and if I forget to ask one question, someone says, nice boots, Kyle.
First of all, they are beautiful boots.
Those are cowboy boots.
Legit cowboy boots.
No zipper.
You have to pull those down.
Let me see here.
I didn't know they could see my boots.
See, my wife said don't wear these shoes because they're so dirty now.
They say Viva Frye.
They say Viva Frye.
And let me see if I can get...
Okay, check this out.
This is Murph's Kicks, by the way.
Murph, they're amazing, but I've worn the heck out of them.
So my wife said don't wear them.
They're not clean, but I love them.
I had one pair of cowboy boots.
I got them in Mexico, but they weren't particularly well made and cut the living heck out of my heel.
Let me see this.
It's all about the socks you wear.
Yeah, but those look more comfortable.
Kyle, please consider TFT, thought field therapy, to help with PTSD.
That works.
I'm 78. Dr. Michael Galvin is renowned and can give you names of doctors.
It works faster and less painful than EMDR was the...
Okay, let's see.
How much?
How much good advice does Barnes talk?
I presume you've watched us once or twice.
Barnes?
On point?
Yeah, I would say so.
Even if Kyle didn't think that, he wouldn't say anything.
That much I know, but I do know that you, well, I think you like Barnes' advice.
Does Kyle have any questions for me?
While you think of those, let me continue reading, but do you have any questions for me?
Let me think about it.
Okay, think about that.
I'm going to get some more here.
I know that you have an opinion on Lin Wood.
I know that it's not a gossip type.
You're not a gossip type of guy, so I'm not going to get into those.
Chat on Locals.
Let's see what you got here.
What was it like meeting Trump?
Are you still in touch with him?
It was an experience.
It was awesome.
It was very fun.
Mar-a-Lago is one of the most beautiful places on planet Earth, in my opinion.
It was amazing.
I don't talk to Trump.
We don't call each other and have phone calls, but I've seen him a couple times since when I first met him.
I was at a movie premiere where I got to see him again, and that was fun.
This is the interesting thing, and I know what Barnes, what Robert says about Trump, that he is, despite being depicted as Satan himself, an actually nice person, does he...
I imagine that...
Privately or individually on a one-on-one basis, he gives that loving uncle vibe.
Am I correct in that assessment?
Yeah.
And how tall is he?
He's taller than you.
Yes, he's taller than me.
So my question for you, Viva, is do you have dual citizenship in the U.S. and Canada?
I do not.
You do not?
Yet.
Now, I'm on a temporary, a three-year visa.
Okay.
And then the question is whether or not I apply for permanent residence.
And I'm serious.
I mean, you know, the world has gone...
That shit crazy everywhere, like Canada and the States.
The question is, you're looking, even within the States, which state is going to be the last bastion of freedom?
Texas.
There are people who say it's going to be Florida.
I was in Texas, man.
I was in Austin.
Austin isn't Texas.
So what part did I miss?
Because I was in Austin.
I actually drove to Albuquerque, New Mexico with my daughter overnight to see the Breaking Bad stuff, but I didn't get to the East of Austin.
So what parts of Texas reflect the essence, the zeitgeist of Texas?
A lot of the smaller towns.
Just like the big cities don't really show Texas's values, but the smaller counties and outskirts of the cities.
That's Texas.
So you don't think Texas is going to go the way of California when all the defectors from California come into Texas and turn it into...
No, it may, but that's a very valid point.
So we've been in Florida now for six months.
There's a lot of New Yorkers in Florida.
I think there's more New Yorkers in Florida than Floridians.
But it's going the other way politically.
I think the people leaving New York appreciate the politics from which they're fleeing, but it seems to be a bit different California to Texas.
I would say so.
I like Florida.
I love Florida a lot, but I don't agree with a lot of the laws here, especially the ones on the Second Amendment.
I see that they're trying to pass constitutional carry here, which is about damn time.
But I don't agree that you have to be 21 to get a rifle here.
You would not like Canada in Canada.
Oh, don't get me started on Canada.
And I went through it like firsthand because we have, first of all, there's a freeze on small arms in Canada.
It's outright illegal, you know, criminalized, almost even legal possession.
But I did the long arm unrestricted license.
A two-day course.
I had to take an exam, and then in order to procure one, you have to get a background check, you have to get authorization from a spouse, and you have to renew it every five years.
And even then, can't be stored loaded.
You have to have a trigger lock on the rifle, ammunition stored separately, and a...
Typically, you'd want to have it stored in a separate locked container.
So what happens if somebody breaks into your house, you have to go through 100 steps?
You are not allowed owning it for the purposes of self-defense.
That is right.
Now, in theory, you could use it for self-defense if you have it and there's enough time or whatever.
There's no self-defense in Canada.
There is no self-defense in Canada.
No self-defense in Canada.
No pepper spray?
You can't even have nunchucks for self-defense.
I looked this up just to make someone laugh.
Self-defense is criminalized in Canada.
Guns are effectively...
Lawful ownership is effectively criminalized because you make a mistake and you're looking at serious time in jail.
And despite all of that, gun violence is going up at a rapid rate in Canada.
So I talked to a cop from Canada, a retired cop from Canada, and I was talking to him about the gun control and the gun laws there, and I learned a lot.
So...
One thing I took away from that conversation is somebody who owns a firearm, they get convicted of a crime with a gun.
Then they go to prison.
So what would be maybe a life sentence here in the United States?
It's maybe two, three years in Canada.
Is that right?
The penalties are much less harsh.
I mean, I know there was...
Oh, it was an egregious criminal, but they could be eligible for parole, you know, two to three years, depending on the severity, no, like maybe 15, 10, 15. But yeah, penalties are more lenient on the far end, but then there's some minimum requirements for firearm offenses which are just totally unjust, which can affect the innocent.
But yeah, our penalties in Canada are far more forgiving.
Is Tim Hortons better than Duncan?
They're both crap, in my opinion, actually.
Tim Hortons used to be good.
But now it just tastes like watered-down tea.
It tastes like watered-down sugar water.
But then I also hate Starbucks.
Tim Hortons has gone downhill.
Do you know who Tim Hortons was?
No.
He was a famous hockey player who died in a drunk driving accident.
And the legacy, most people don't know the history behind the legacy, but it became one of Canada's iconic chains.
Have you been to Canada?
No.
I don't have a passport right now.
Do you not have a passport because of everything, or you just don't have a passport?
I don't have a passport.
Well, because I was going to get a passport, and then my criminal trial happened, and then I have yet to get one.
I've been really busy.
It's actually on my bucket list this week.
Well, passports are good, but America is such a wildly big, diverse country.
Okay, I don't want to make a fool of myself.
51 states.
How many states are there?
It's not 52. I think it's 51. I remember, it's not the number of cards in a deck, but Canada's amazing as well, except the politics.
Geographically, America is like, it's a tapestry of everything on Earth.
There's so much to see here.
Yeah, and Canada's huge.
I was looking at a map of Canada the other day.
How many territories?
You guys have territories, right?
I have to count them.
No, we have two territories.
We've got Newfoundland and Labrador, Far East.
Then we've got Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick on the East Coast.
Then we've got Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba.
I get mixed up between the prairies.
Which one's the most conservative?
The most conservative would be Alberta, but conservative in Canada is not the same thing as conservative in the States.
Alberta is the province which has like...
COVID freedom, but it's still COVID tyranny, but just less so than the other provinces.
British Columbia on the far west is Canada's California, and Ontario is like Canada's New York.
It's just liberal to a problem.
Canada's beautiful, but there's not as much distinction between the provinces, and there's fewer of them than the states in America, which they're each their own country.
So I say you don't need a passport.
And where are you going to go?
Like, there's Europe?
Well, just in case I ever have any, like, speaking engagements overseas.
Get a passport anyhow.
And Europe is beautiful.
But you go to Europe and you'll appreciate America a lot more.
I studied one year in Paris in 1999 to 2000, philosophy at La Sorbonne.
And you appreciate the difference between America or the West and Europe.
Europe is part of the West, but architecture is the only thing that makes Europe distinguishably better than North America.
Other than that, politics tend to ruin everything.
BC is commie land, says Rob A. None of it.
Northwest Territories are the two territories.
Yes.
Chat, let me get some questions if I've missed anything.
We are bigger than the US.
Yes, it is.
Okay, here we go.
I have to make sure that before I read it out loud.
N.S. Spence says, Kyle, you may not realize it, but you are wise beyond your years.
Your spirit and outlook remind me of Henley's poem Invictus.
You too seem to possess an unconquerable soul.
What is most mind-blowing?
Oh, someone asked if you consider running for public office.
We asked him.
He's no interest in politics.
If you thought media would make you cynical, politics is the ultimate.
It's the doom pill.
It's not even black pill.
I wouldn't have a problem with being a lobbyist, but I don't want to be a congressman.
I don't think I can do much change inside office.
I think I can do much more change outside of office, in my opinion.
It was Andrew Breitbart who said politics is downstream from culture.
This is when I ran for federal office in Canada.
Not only, but I said...
Before I run from the country, I'm going to run for the country, and if they don't want to elect change, well, then Canada.
But, yeah, the night of the election when I still, like an idiot, thought I could have a chance of winning, I was like, if I win, I'll have less reach, less impact, less influence than on the outside.
Luckily, I lost.
Hard.
I got 3.3% of the vote, which was twice as much as, or three times as much as we got, the same party got.
The prior election.
Oh.
But the astronaut, Marc Garneau, got 53% of the vote.
My writing has gone liberal by more than half for almost 30 years.
So, Kyle, okay, we're going to wind this up because you've got to go somewhere now.
But I don't want to put you on the spot and ask for the white pill outlook.
What are you most looking forward to in the coming years?
Getting this lawsuit, getting over this lawsuit, starting moving on with my life and just being an activist in a way and just seeing change in America, seeing better laws get passed and just seeing America become free again.
You were thrust into circumstances that would have destroyed most people.
By the grace of God made it out.
I may be projecting that one can see trauma and lingering effects as is normal, but I think what most people will be struck by is your resolve.
I mean, you're surviving and thriving, and you are an inspiration to many, not necessarily a figurehead, but an inspiration as to overcoming as much adversity as any single human can expect to ever experience in their life, and you're continuing to experience it now.
You look like you're doing okay.
Where can people find you?
You can go to...
You can visit me at Twitter.
This is Kyle R. Instagram.
This is Kyle Rittenhouse.
Yeah, I'm starting to post more.
I post a lot on Twitter.
I don't post that much on Instagram.
I'm shadowbanned on Instagram.
Instagram is useless.
Unless, you know, you have the fishing channel.
When you have the fishing channel up, fishing pics and fishing vids on Instagram.
But it's a totally different essence of platform.
It's not for politics.
It's not for people showing off their dogs and kids.
Yep.
So this is Kyle R. And the YouTube channel, when it's up and ready, you'll let everybody know?
Yes.
When I post the video, I'll let people know and I'll promote it a lot.
Okay, Kyle, I know I got disconnected from the chat, but I know people are wishing you well and wishing you all the best in everything you do.
So keep your head up.
I say keep your head up and keep ignoring that which deserves to be ignored, but keep relying on that which is getting you through this.
Thank you, Viva.
Nice to meet you.
Everybody, see you Sunday night.
What day is today?
It's Friday.
See you Sunday.
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