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Dec. 7, 2022 - Viva & Barnes

01:55:59

Justin Trudeau is a Psychopath! Jeremy McKenzie Update; AND MORE!

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	Get your gag reflexes ready.
	Get your gag reflexes ready.
	As you can also see, Canada is a place of free expression, where individuals and communities are free to express themselves openly and strongly.
	And we thank them for sharing their perspectives.
	Merci beaucoup.
	Merci d'être ici.
	Merci.
	Thank you.
	Being a democracy doesn't mean we all agree.
	It means we all work together, we all listen to each other, we all respect each other, and that's...
	How we move forward on doing the most important thing in front of us, which is protecting nature.
	Full disclosure, I have not seen the full context of that clip.
	I was trying to find it, but I ran out of time.
	The absolute audacity that it takes for him to lecture me on tolerance and morality.
	But it's not...
	Just insult to injury.
	It's psychopathic.
	It's as though he thinks we don't know what he just did, or it's as though he thinks he can convince us it didn't happen the way we know it happened.
	This is gaslighting of the purest form.
	Like, I don't like using the analogies of an abusive partner because...
	It's a horrible thing.
	And one can be accused of minimizing the devastation of being in an abusive relationship when comparing it to this type of conduct.
	And then there are other times where that's what it is.
	This is a man who literally violently suppressed protests after not having engaged with the protesters for over three weeks.
	Stomped an indigenous woman with horses because his corrupt RCMP thought it would be a good idea to parade horses through crowded protesters in the middle of winter and laughed about what might happen if one of the horses got injured and had to be euthanized or something along those lines.
	Actually, Jeremy, our guest, can clarify that because he's the guy who broke the text messages of the corrupt RCMP.
	That were joking about this.
	He literally brought in a militarized police force to violently suppress a peaceful protest after having not engaged with them for three and a half weeks.
	Pepper sprayed.
	The police deployed a pepper spray canister at a journalist point blank in the lake.
	Violently assaulted and arrested veterans.
	Cuffed them.
	Had them outdoors for hours.
	We heard the evidence during the commission.
	Stomped an elderly Indigenous lady and the OPP or the OPS, I forget which one it was, said that it was a protester who threw their bike at a horse when it was an 80-some-odd-year-old Indigenous woman with a walker.
	And that man, I have to weigh my words, gets up now and says, with his smug face, we tolerate protest.
	Merci beaucoup.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for coming.
	Do you remember that time before when a protester came, paid for a ticket, and then protested Justin Trudeau, and he said, thank you for buying a ticket in here.
	It is the abusive spouse literally telling the victim of their abuse, it never happened.
	I'm a good husband.
	It is the most offensive thing I can possibly think of at this point in time, and to see him.
	And by the way, Not to be sound too conspiratorial?
	I'm not convinced that that's not a setup.
	That reeks of something of a setup so that Justin Trudeau can get that soundbite out there.
	Hey, rest of the world, I'm not a violent abuser who calls in a highly militarized police and literally assaults protesters, stomping them with a freaking horse.
	I'm not that guy.
	In Canada, we tolerate protests.
	Democracy means listening to the other side.
	It's enough to make you puke in your mouth and that's it.
	I don't feel better actually right now.
	If that does not have Trudeau is a psychopath trending as a hashtag on Twitter, nothing will.
	Hashtag Trudeau is a psychopath.
	And hashtag shout out to DSLR Dave for anybody who needs good thumbnails because the thumbnail for today.
	It's the stuff of nightmares.
	Okay, before Jeremy McKenzie gets in, the founder of Diagon, before Phil Damaris gets in, the leaker of marine land, alleged marine land abuse of animals, Smushy the Walrus, you may have noticed, people, it's said that this stream contains a paid sponsorship.
	And it does.
	And people, we're back to one of the ones from the beginning.
	Look at me.
	How can anyone say no to a face like that?
	Oh, that was when Viva was running for office.
	Wet behind the ears.
	So optimistic.
	Had no idea how bad people could really be.
	Politicians could really be.
	How much further Canada could have possibly fallen than it had already fallen when it compelled me to run for office.
	Last place I would have ever wanted to be.
	Was in politics.
	And I was driven to run for office because of how Canada had fallen by 2021.
	And it's only gotten worse since then.
	So what was I saying?
	Oh yeah, that was me back then.
	Home Title Lock is the sponsor of today's video.
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	It's a type of fraud in the States that I had no idea.
	And it's not people go and steal the deed of your house and come and show up and say, hey guys, I live here now.
	What they do, and I've consulted with my home insurance, I've consulted with people that I talk on the street.
	I met a developer as I was fishing and I threw this question out and he said, it's a real type of fraud and this is real protection.
	They go to the clerk's office and get the...
	Quick claim to the deed for your house and borrow money against the equity in your house.
	Or they just borrow money against your house.
	And then you don't find out about it until creditors start sending letters showing up at the door saying, hey, you owe us 50,000 bucks.
	You secured it with your house because someone forged your signature by pulling up your deed or whatever.
	And this is a real type of fraud.
	This service, home title lock, it's basically like, you know, call it 24-7 surveillance of the interwebs.
	If someone pulls up your deed.
	From, I forget what the term is, the clerk's office, you'll get notified and there'll be a freeze so that they cannot borrow against your property in your name by forging your signature.
	They also offer something like a quarter of a million dollars in defense fees if ever there's a problem.
	Go to the website, hometitlelock.com, promo code, or forward slash Viva.
	If you use the promo code, you'll get a free title assessment.
	It's worth $100 and $20 a month.
	$19.95 a month.
	So that you can have 24-7 eyes on your deed.
	So that nobody pulls it up, forges your signature, buys a property in your name, and leaves you holding a big bag of crap.
	I use it.
	Period.
	And thus far, I haven't gotten notified, which is always a good sign.
	HomeTitleLock.com forward slash Viva.
	And thank also Home Title Lock for having the courage, the audacity to sponsor a hinged, fringed minority.
	Holding unacceptable views.
	And with that said, with the unacceptable views in mind, Jeremy, get ready.
	People, for those who haven't seen Jeremy in a while, he's been in jail for a long time.
	Spoiler alert.
	Jeremy, okay.
	I presume everybody who's watching knows who you are.
	They may not know what happened.
	30,000 foot overview for anybody who may not know who you are.
	A terrorist.
	A very dangerous criminal.
	Well, you got the flag behind me, Jeremy.
	We know what that means now.
	We need to know that now.
	Thanks for having me, man.
	I appreciate it.
	I'm just a guy.
	I'm a retired Canadian Forces veteran.
	I've been causing boat rock and hurting feelings on the internet since I retired in 2017.
	You know, just living the good life up here in communist North America.
	Yeah, just had a little vacation in the slammer.
	We're going to get there because I got questions.
	Jeremy was on.
	We did a two-hour live stream.
	We went over everything.
	Diagon, accusations, criminal charges, everything.
	It was before the unfortunate...
	You spent a couple of months in jail now.
	First question, because anybody who saw that stream is going to notice it.
	I know the answer now.
	How much weight did you lose in jail?
	12 pounds.
	The beard adds.
	Quite a bit.
	I think that's a deception.
	It makes my head look bigger, maybe.
	Not sure.
	I thought it was a lot more.
	I didn't get to see anything on a scale.
	I didn't get to look at myself in a mirror until I got out.
	I thought it was going to be a lot more.
	It felt like more.
	I went in at about 194, and I came out around 182.
	Okay, well, you've got to walk us through the entire thing.
	We talked about it the last time.
	You had these outstanding gun charges.
	You had, at the time, it was just...
	Brewing these charges of alleged assault, alleged pointing a gun at someone, an ex-girlfriend back in Saskatchewan.
	What were the charges about and how on earth did you end up in jail in Nova Scotia, then in Saskatchewan for close to two months?
	Yeah, it was a little over two months.
	It was 64 days, I think, I was in custody.
	I can't really, you know, my lawyer will fly down here and kill me if I say anything about the, can't comment too much on the charges at all, but suffice to say anything more than I've already said publicly, and he has as well, is that I'm not guilty.
	I'm pleading not guilty, and I'll be fighting every last bit of that right to the end, and we're confident it'll be sorted out eventually.
	I mean, you know how long the court system...
	It can take years to resolve things, and it's just crazy that's how it works in Canada.
	You're actually guilty until proven innocent, and that's only if you can afford to be, really.
	It's crazy that you can just be accused and charged and thrown right in jail, and I'm sitting there eating lunch.
	Well, if you can call it lunch.
	I think it's chopped up political prisoners, Chinese political prisoners.
	I'm not sure what the meals really were.
	They were small meat cubes.
	I digress.
	You can be sitting there, the guy sitting next to you, he's already done 10 or 15 years for, you know, Attempted murder and all kinds.
	There's violent criminals in there.
	There's no separation.
	You're right there, living right there with them.
	You're in the exact same situation he is just because you've been accused.
	And that's how it works in Canada.
	And they can say, nah, we're going to deny you bail, which they did in my case.
	And I would love to talk all about that.
	I can't just yet, but someday.
	How insane that is.
	And I was in there until I had to dig myself out.
	It cost me some money.
	I had to get a good legal team, but I was lucky to get the people that I did.
	Well, I was going to say, you know, like, they charge you, then they arrest you, then they detain you.
	It's not indefinite because, you know, Pat King wasn't detained indefinitely.
	He just didn't know how long he was going to be there for until he got bail five months later.
	But they got the visual that they wanted, which was you testifying at the Public Order Emergencies Commission in jail from Cinderblock Cave.
	So don't get into the substance of anything, because I don't want your lawyer coming down to kick my ass either.
	But you had pending charges, and then you get arrested.
	Are you allowed to specify if it was a, what do they call it, a nationwide warrant?
	It was, yeah.
	Okay, and then they arrest you in Nova Scotia.
	They did.
	I surrendered immediately.
	They tried to make it sound like I had to be chased down and apprehended, like they pulled me out of Saddam's cave, where they were like, we found him in the Sioux events!
	They got in touch with my partner, Morgan, who you spoke to.
	Thanks a lot.
	I appreciate it, by the way, for you opening her up.
	People needed an update at least from somebody to let them know that you were alive, if not well.
	Yeah, I just appreciated you doing that for her.
	Yeah, the cops are looking for you.
	So I called them and they said, we got a national warrant for you.
	So I said, alright, well, here's where I am.
	Come get me then.
	I'll be in the driveway.
	And they showed up and I, take me away then.
	And they did.
	And they flew me to Saskatchewan in chains and my hands and legs and belly, waist, everything but the Hannibal Lecter mask.
	I asked.
	They didn't want to give me one.
	They did feed me a bacon sandwich on the plane, which I appreciated the irony of, but it was about a 10-hour flight.
	But they arrest you first in Nova Scotia.
	You spend some time locked up in Nova Scotia.
	How many days and what were the conditions like there?
	I was six days in like a solitary, just in a cell by myself for six days.
	They put you in there, the door closes, and you're there until they take you out at whatever time, 6 in the morning or 7 in the morning, something like that.
	They send a whole plane.
	The Saskatchewan government deemed it necessary to send the RCMP with their own plane and a bunch of officers to come get me from the correctional facility in Burnside outside of Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, and fly me to Saskatchewan.
	Jeremy?
	Jeremy, I know I have neuroses and I have some phobias, and I'm maybe projecting the anxiety, but they put you in a room which is, what, 8x8?
	About that, yeah.
	It's not too big.
	And they shut the door and you're alone.
	Other than the fact that you know indefinitely, you have no idea for how long you're going to be alone.
	Do you have a physiological panic attack?
	Not quite.
	I wouldn't want to be claustrophobic in that situation, but it's the not knowing what's going to happen and not...
	They call it dead time.
	When you're in jail, you're doing dead time.
	You don't know how long it's going to be.
	It'd be preferable to be...
	You're going to be here two and a half months or six months or a year.
	So then you can just get over it, accept it.
	This is the situation you're in.
	It is what it is.
	And start to acclimatize your brain around that.
	But in my case, it was maybe you're out tomorrow.
	Maybe two weeks.
	Maybe two years.
	Maybe never.
	We don't know.
	And it was just...
	Every day was up in the air for months until...
	Until my lawyer was able to get me out of there.
	Right, which was a whole...
	That's a whole...
	Episode in itself, a whole fiasco.
	But, yeah, it was not knowing what was going to go on.
	Like, are they going to, you know, they hauled me all the way out there, and then it was, you know, they put you in solitary there for, you know, COVID.
	You know, we've got to make sure you're not sick.
	So I did another five days, five, six days in confinement there, and then another time I didn't want to...
	I thought they were doing the PCR test all the way at the big swab up the nose.
	I was like, no, I'm not doing that.
	I don't think I'm doing that.
	Back to segregation, I went for another five days to make sure I'm not...
	And you just sit there and stare at the walls all day.
	And you had...
	15 minutes a day, twice a day, you could get out to use the bathroom, take a shower, use a phone, and that's it.
	Otherwise, back to the box, and you sit there and walk around in circles all day, stare at the walls.
	I'm not...
	This makes me have anxiety listening to it.
	I actually can't...
	I'm a baby.
	I appreciate that, but I don't know what...
	It's inhumane.
	When you're in there and you say in solitary...
	Nobody to talk to.
	Does anybody walk in front of your cage?
	In Saskatchewan, at least, well, I mean, you can kind of yell under the doors, maybe, if the guy can...
	It's hard to hear each other, but one of the guys there, he's a nice guy.
	He was in that block.
	He lived there.
	He was like a resident, they call him.
	He works there because he's got two years.
	He's doing two years in there, so he's whopping the floors.
	He would come by and say hi to you once in a while, but that's about it.
	Do you have a pen and paper, or is it literally just staring at a wall and running thoughts?
	Yeah, more or less.
	I mean, you can only, your hand cramps after a while.
	I wrote more letters in there than I ever have in my life.
	I think I developed carpal tunnel pretty fast for not having to handwrite things, but you can kill a couple hours that way.
	And I got so many, I say thanks to everybody that sent me, I mean, probably 200 letters I think I got in there.
	Man, that kills some time, but...
	Most of the day, you're just going to, yeah, you're sitting there.
	It's good practice from the military.
	When I first joined, the recruiter was trying to talk me out of joining the infantry, which is just, you know, ground thugs.
	That's what all the movies are about and all that stuff.
	So that's what I wanted.
	He was trying to talk me into it.
	He's like, no, when you get out in the real world, you can have a trade, like you could be a mechanic or you could be an air crew, you know, this and that.
	And I said, no, I want to join the infantry.
	He said, kid, the infantry is only good practice for two things in real life, being homeless and going to jail.
	And he was right.
	There's a lot of waiting around and just sitting around trying not to go crazy because you're waiting around for so long.
	And so I guess I kind of had practice at that.
	You just kind of go into your own head and occupy yourself with your own thoughts.
	And you just go meal to meal, you know, breakfast.
	And then eventually it's lunch.
	You look forward to lunchtime.
	And then when it's lunchtime, you look forward to suppertime.
	And you just keep, you know, micro goals.
	You know, you set small little barriers throughout the day.
	Go from one to the next, and then it's another day down, and you just keep doing that process.
	You don't want to think too far ahead.
	If you think too far ahead, you're going to go crazy.
	You basically have to live in the moment, big time, or try to stay distracted however you can, do some push-ups or something.
	So they have you in solitary in Nova Scotia, or alone.
	No cellmate, no nothing.
	Six days, and then what you're describing, it sounds like con air, like shackles, arm, leg.
	Are you alone on this plane?
	Or do they have other criminals?
	Alleged criminals, sorry.
	No, they sent four cops.
	There's just me and these cops and their pilot.
	Shut the front door.
	How big is the plane?
	Five seats.
	So it's like a propeller?
	Yeah, just a one plane.
	We flew from Halifax to Quebec.
	Quebec to somewhere in Ontario.
	I can't pronounce the name of...
	It started with a K, I think, and then Winnipeg, and then...
	I think Saskatoon.
	This is actually the stuff of my nightmare.
	So you go from a solitary in a cell to a Cessna-type plane.
	Bumpy ride?
	And what is that like?
	How awkward is that sitting there with four cops?
	It wasn't too bad.
	It wasn't much to say.
	A little bit of small talk here and there, but not really.
	It was kind of a long day.
	I mean, I woke up...
	I woke up, and Morgan just handed me, like, immediately.
	I could tell something, you know, you can tell something's wrong, right?
	I was just like, what now?
	What is it now?
	And she's like, the police are looking for you.
	As soon as the guy's business card he was by earlier, I was like, alright.
	Called him, and then within 30 minutes of being awake, I was...
	They sent the high-risk warrant enforcement team to arrest me because I'm a very dangerous terrorist.
	These guys chase people down all over the country, very dangerous, sought-after guys on national warrants and stuff like that.
	It was all very over-the-top and crazy.
	They had to make a big show of it, so they did.
	They get you to Saskatoon.
	You're there until you get bail, and I don't want to ask too many questions there.
	Solitary because you refused to submit to the PCR test.
	Why did they not give you the little whiffy around the nostril one?
	They did, eventually.
	I don't know.
	After the five days was up, they were like, okay, I thought they were going to just keep doing this.
	And I was like, I'm just going to be in here forever then because I'm not letting you jam this thing in my brain.
	And this nurse came up and he was like, no, we have this little Q-tip.
	It's just...
	I was like, why didn't you tell me that?
	Why was this not available a week ago?
	So they did that, and they sent me to another range, and that was it.
	But yeah, that's what they're doing.
	And for anybody who has not been in jail before, what was Saskatoon like?
	A single cell, you're alone, or do you have a cellmate at least?
	No, so it depends.
	There's the higher security area where they've got guys in a cell by themselves or with maybe another guy.
	And then generally the main part of the jails is kind of, they're like dormitories.
	You've got like 30 to 40 guys to a room, essentially bunk beds along the walls, a couple of tables.
	There's a TV.
	And that's it.
	There's no doors on the toilets or the showers.
	Everything's just wide open.
	There's no privacy whatsoever.
	And they just drop you in there.
	I mean, I wasn't too bad.
	I mean...
	It was similar to the Army in a lot of ways, and I was right.
	You've got a lot of men of a certain temperament, I'll say.
	A lot of gang members and stuff like that, and mostly everybody in there is not their first time in there.
	Almost everybody's been in there numerous times.
	Are they looking at you like, how'd you get in here type thing?
	Yeah.
	Well, they were like, this doesn't make sense.
	I'm telling them the story, like what happened, and they're like, they thought I was a cop for a while, and then I'm on the news.
	And they're, you know, they were just, like, perplexed.
	Well, it depends on one part, because, you know, I'm on the news, they're saying, oh, he's a white supremacist.
	Like, they don't say these words, but they infer it.
	They say, you know, far right.
	You know, the words they say to create the mental image of what they're trying to achieve, and it works.
	And, you know, I had a couple of...
	Dust-ups and some threats, and one guy tried to stab me.
	Because I'm a famous white supremacist in a jail full of 95%, 98% indigenous native gang members.
	It goes as well as you'd expect it to.
	But luckily, some of them are reasonable.
	The spot I spent the most time at, the guys were pretty reasonable.
	They're pretty good guys.
	They're like, it's the news.
	It's horseshit.
	I'm like, thank you.
	Thank you.
	They were good fellas, and it wasn't too bad there, for the most part.
	Yeah, but they're just kind of wide open, just a jungle.
	And you've got the guards, just usually two of them, in the bubble, it's called.
	It's like a little glassed-in little fortress there where they just kind of watch you, and that's where they're at.
	And they don't generally come out.
	They come out a couple times a day to count everybody, and they go back in, but they make you get back, you know, far away from them.
	Because it's dangerous.
	I mean, there's fights in there and people can get hurt and nobody's coming to save you.
	Like, if you get attacked by a bunch of guys, it's going to be 10 minutes.
	You know, it could be for the other help to come in because these guards are going to come in there by themselves and potentially get, you know, beaten up by 10 or 15 inmates or something, right?
	So you're on your own big time.
	It's not a place for...
	I wouldn't want to be somebody that's like...
	Working at a bank, let's say.
	You get a DUI and you get thrown in there.
	The culture shock of that would be like getting shot into space.
	They make comedies of that.
	I'm thinking of Get Hard off the bat.
	There was the other one with the Wayans brother.
	It sounds exactly what it sounds like.
	It sounds like an absolute nightmare to a standard person.
	People might hate you and they might think they know things about you, but one way or the other.
	This is pre-trial.
	This is pre-conviction.
	This is after being denied bail, and I don't want to get into the legalities of that.
	Let me ask you this about having prepped for and attended the commission as a witness, where they had you in your cinder block.
	They had the visual they wanted.
	What was that experience like, and how did you prep for it?
	I was conscious.
	I knew what they wanted.
	I know what they want.
	Like, they wanted me to be disheveled and even in jail for how long was it?
	Like six weeks at that time or something, right?
	And so I tried to fancy myself up as much as I could.
	I had Morgan send one of my suits out there to wear, and I shaved up my face, and I was like, I'm not going to come in there, you know, not giving them what they want, right?
	They're going to expect this kind of disheveled, half-ranting, crazy guy.
	There's an image, there's a perception of who they think I am.
	So they wanted it.
	I had five days notice, I think.
	Five or six days.
	They just said, hey, yeah, you're testifying on Friday.
	I was like, great.
	Okay.
	Thank you very much.
	I had some people help me prep for that and my lawyers and so on.
	But yeah, that was the idea.
	I'm not going to go in there and give them what they want.
	And we tried to save them.
	I tried to say, hey, you know, my lawyer tried to make the argument, hey, this, you know, he wanted to seal the testimony so that, you know, no one sees it because it could impact his right to a fair trial and so on.
	And they said, no, no, no.
	You know, we were pretty sure that was going to happen anyway, which is kind of what I wanted to happen.
	So I could say, hey, you know, to the media, you asked for this.
	You specifically, there was objections from the Government of Canada and the Media Association, or whatever, that group that, there's the different little groups that are represented by various lawyers.
	It was the Government of Canada and the media, the journalists, that objected to that.
	They wanted to make sure that this was going to be public.
	So I said, okay, that's fine.
	That's great.
	So, you know, I think they were expecting a certain version of me to show up, and I didn't want to give them that, and I just was like, I'm just going to show up and, you know, tell them the truth.
	I'm just going to tell you what happened, and they're not going to like it.
	It's not going to go well for you.
	I mean, I know what you're hoping to hear, but it is what it is.
	The lawyer, the three-piece suit mustache lawyer, and I'm only saying that because it was a striking feature.
	Is that the same lawyer that's representing you in the criminal stuff?
	Yes, yes it is.
	Well, he was amazing.
	Yeah, he's excellent.
	And his reestablishing, or his, I guess, re-examination, but it was his examination of you, was incredible.
	Where they're trying to make you look like a criminal...
	Terrorist instigator, and he said, he played clips of you saying, everyone avoid trouble, don't give him any reason.
	You were cooperating with the police, which is not typically what instigators and terrorists do.
	It was an absolutely perfect re-examination, examination, however you want to call it.
	Are you allowed mentioning the terms of your release?
	I'm not sure.
	They're not too strenuous.
	That's what most people are concerned about.
	Am I going to be allowed to keep doing this?
	Yes.
	Because he's very good.
	He's a good lawyer, and he argued your terms of your release and your bail stuff need to be tailored to the person without violating their rights as minimally as possible.
	And there was no reason.
	They tried, but there was no reason for me to be barred from doing what I'm doing.
	Because they did it with Tamara Lich, they did it with Pat King, they did it with Randy Hillier, in a meaningful sense.
	I was prepared.
	I knew that was going to come, so we prepared for that.
	And everybody watching.
	I knew that Jeremy was allowed talking.
	I would not have had a long period for this.
	Cops are here!
	I'm always nervous about people getting into trouble just from telling the truth, but I'm not going to be reckless.
	So you're out.
	You're back on social media, carrying on with the raging dissident, or have you changed it to the peaceful?
	That's what they want!
	I'm going to be worse than ever now!
	No, I'm going to continue.
	I'm going to keep going.
	I'll continue doing it.
	I had a little time off.
	I obviously had a couple months at the resort there and time to decompress and get away from the phone and do some exercise, work out a lot, and hang out with some guys.
	It got pretty healthy, actually, despite the food is pretty awful, but besides that...
	Good little breaks, but I'm hoping I'm going to be back again very soon.
	Potentially, maybe this evening.
	We'll see how it goes.
	But this is the first day back.
	I've just talked to my friend Greg Wycliffe before this, and this is my second stop.
	And you mean your first day back on social.
	You're not going back to jail anytime soon.
	Do you have scheduled trial dates?
	Not yet.
	Not all of them, though.
	Some of them, yes.
	I've elected not guilty and judge and jury for everything.
	Let me project a little bit.
	Do you wake up in the middle of the night and think you're back in jail?
	No.
	Surprisingly, I thought that might happen, but it's a weird...
	I've had a few people ask me that.
	I spoke to you on the phone actually the night I got out and a lot of people were like, are you okay?
	I'm fine.
	I did notice after probably two or three days I was kind of tired.
	It's like overstimulation.
	You don't have access to the phones and all of that.
	It's like going back in time and then you come back out and there's just so much mental energy that gets expended trying to take in information and process it and talk to people.
	And I was getting like...
	Mentally exhausted, like falling asleep at 7 o 'clock at night, which never happens to me.
	I think that's probably why.
	But other than that, it's almost like I compared it to some of the Army guys coming back home from deployment overseas because the environment is so different.
	It's such a contrast.
	It's not like you're just in a different town.
	It's like a completely different world, and you're just...
	And it's over.
	Like, you know, you land on the plane and you get off, like, in Afghanistan, you know, here, same as when you get out of jail, you just, well, that's it.
	And it's almost like it's compartmentalizing your brain.
	It's like one long week.
	It was really hard to tell time.
	I didn't even know what day it was a lot of the time because there's no meaning to them, really.
	Every day is the same, so there's no real point in keeping track of it.
	Some guys are counting the days.
	Don't do that.
	It's like watching a clock tick by.
	It's going to go even longer.
	Find ways to stay busy and just don't even think about it.
	That's the fastest way you can get through it.
	It was almost something like that.
	Within an hour, it was just go back to work, I guess.
	Fantastic.
	All right.
	Well, I say it's good to see you.
	However, whether or not you even get convicted and whatever happens on the merits, this idea of this type of treatment of individuals, pre-trial detention, denial of bail initially, anybody who's watching and thinks that this is okay, I would beware of the hell that you were ushering in, but it's good to see you out, Jeremy.
	Where can people find you?
	I mean, I think they know where to find you, but for those who are new to you, where can they find you and what do you do?
	All of my social media stuff is on my website, RagingDissident.com and primarily the Telegram page, t.me slash RagingDissidentII.
	There's a link on the website if you want, but that's what I primarily use to keep in touch with everybody and post links to this stream and other ones and more in the future.
	So that's the main area, but everything's on the website, the.com.
	Okay, excellent.
	And I'll put it in the pinned comment, and Jeremy, you'll come back from time to time, give us updates.
	Stay out of trouble.
	Okay, stay out of trouble.
	But let's do this again.
	Do you want to give people some optimism, or do you have optimism after all of this?
	In regards to what?
	I don't know.
	The state and future of Canada.
	We're all very doomed.
	We're all very doomed.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm fine.
	I don't think this is sustainable.
	Obviously, something's going to have to happen here.
	I mean, there's two parallel worlds we're living in.
	You've got kind of the one we're in, and then there's one where the state media controls everything, and they're obviously...
	Projecting a totally different version of reality than the one that we're living in.
	And they can't really coexist.
	And the problem is theirs is based on air.
	It's a house of sand.
	It's a castle of sand.
	There's no truth to a lot of it.
	A lot of it is gaslighting and propaganda and just manipulating emotions and making people make emotional decisions and so on.
	Down the road, the foundations of Reality are going to be the same.
	It's always whatever's true.
	That's going to come out in the wash sooner or later.
	These two parallel dimensions of craziness and suppressing reality, one is eventually going to win out the other.
	However long that takes, it could be a while.
	The Soviet Union lasted 80 years.
	Hopefully, with the democratizing of information, we'll be able to awaken those, even those who think...
	Trudeau is good.
	I don't know who thinks that anymore, but Jeremy, it's good to see, and it's good to see that you're not actually as traumatized and broken as I think I might have been, as I feared you might have been.
	You're tougher than you think you are.
	You never know until you have to go through it.
	Well, it's good to see you again.
	We'll do it again.
	We'll talk and keep in touch.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a good one.
	Thank you.
	All right, people.
	That was Jeremy.
	Now, next up, what we're going to do before Before Phil Demers, the Walrus Whisperer, comes up, we're going to go over to Rumble now, and then I'm going to post this to YouTube in its entirety uninterrupted tomorrow.
	Everyone in the chat, I think the Rumble link should be pinned, but maybe it's not.
	Why?
	Because I'm an idiot.
	Let me see here.
	Let me see here.
	Let me see.
	Go to the chat.
	The Rumble link is pinned.
	Good.
	Everyone head over to Rumble now.
	We're going to do this interview on Rumble.
	I think this might be news to many people on Rumble, which is going to blow their minds.
	Blow your minds.
	At all costs, avoid litigation to the greatest extent possible.
	You're going to see why in a second.
	Everybody head over to Rumble.
	We're going to end it on YouTube now.
	And I'll post the entire interview uncut on YouTube tomorrow.
	Link is there.
	Meet you guys over on Rumble in three, two, one, now.
	Okay.
	It's good to see that Jeremy's right.
	You don't know how strong you are until you have to find out.
	That description of his experience, it's nothing short of my personal hell.
	Okay, now, part two.
	The craziness out of Canada.
	Does everybody know who Phil Demers is?
	Most people...
	I had him on a while back.
	I was covering the lawsuit.
	But we're going to go over this.
	Look at that number.
	It's going up.
	5,755 live on Rumble.
	And there will be more people.
	All right, Phil.
	I'm getting ready to bring you in.
	Three, two, one.
	Sir, how goes the battle?
	Hold on, I can't hear you.
	Is it the unmute mic?
	Okay, try it now.
	No.
	Is it my end?
	No, hold on.
	Phil, I think...
	No, hold on.
	Unmute.
	Unmute mic.
	Not banned from studio.
	I don't think...
	Okay, hold on.
	I'm clicking unmute mic.
	Can't unmute your guest because they chose to mute themselves.
	Come out and come back in.
	You know, I'm going to kick him.
	Okay.
	Device is not connected.
	I'm going to kick from the studio.
	Not ban from studio.
	Kick from studio.
	He will be removed from the studio.
	If you want to prevent this person from rejoining, ban them instead.
	I'm going to kick guest when he comes back in.
	Oh, good.
	Everyone's trickling in here anyhow.
	Count, take or expose, says platitudes.
	Let's rumble, says Daisy.
	Tobias Funk, says Greg today.
	And I don't know who that is.
	Rumble is greater than YouTube, says Jacob Castro.
	Justin Trudeau's brother, it looks like.
	I'll give you the rundown of Phil Damaris for anybody who might not know.
	He's back in here.
	Let's see here.
	Yes, okay.
	I can hear something now.
	Can you hear me?
	Oh yeah, there you go.
	Okay.
	This is like the second time where I wasn't able to do the...
	No, the last time the audio worked and then it stopped working.
	But I don't have problems that often on StreamYard.
	I want to make sure there's not too much echo because I don't hear any echo.
	Let's see something.
	Phil, 30,000 foot overview, who are you?
	Well, for the American listeners, I'm the equivalent of someone who worked at a place similar to SeaWorld, but in Canada, well known to all of us, most of us, a place called Marineland.
	And for about 12 years, I was, you know, I was the guy jumping off the orcas and prancing around with the sea lions and swimming with the dolphins, etc., etc.
	Of course, there's a lot more to those.
	There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that a few people like to talk about.
	I, however, one day elected to speak very much and thoroughly about it.
	And much to Marineland and much of the industry's chagrin.
	And so Marineland elected to sue me for $1.5 million in February of 2013 for plotting to steal Smushi the Walrus.
	Which happens to be an animal that imprinted on me during my time at Marine Land, which I just very quickly, I just want to talk about that because it's an anomalous thing.
	It was the relationship that I shared with this walrus that doesn't exist sort of anywhere else.
	I mean, on occasion you hear of birds that imprint on people and you see them sort of riding their boats and they got like a flock of geese behind them.
	But this is a very rare thing that happened between Smushi and I. And so this walrus believed I was her mother.
	This, of course, in about 2008-2009 turned into a fluff piece, and it was excited and celebrated, but as things got ugly and it was my time to quit Marineland, all of it turned into a more ominous story.
	Well, I'm trying to pull up one article, because your bottom line, the whistleblower who outed some arguable, alleged animal mistreatment at Marineland, but...
	You became famous even before that because you were on the show.
	It's called...
	Oh, geez.
	Phil, what was the show that you were on in Canada?
	Are you talking about the reality TV show that I was on?
	Yeah.
	It was called Wipeout.
	So, yeah, for those...
	If you're not familiar with the name, maybe it's the Big Red Balls.
	You know, the whole jumping on the Big Red Balls thing.
	That usually triggers a memory for people.
	But, yeah, I was on the Canadian version of that.
	And largely, that's what started the craziness of my journey because...
	I'd actually gone there with the intention, of course, of winning, but with the thought that if I could win that money, it would secure me at least for a moment a buffer, if you will, to make the transition from an employee of Marineland to very much an ex-employee.
	It was not a claim to fame, but you made it onto Wipeout.
	There was the American version of Wipeout.
	Jim Henson was the host, and it's a great show.
	Actually, I would love to have ever gone on it myself.
	And your story, because everybody has an amazing story, which they told, was that Smushy the walrus imprinted on you as you became her trainer, grew what had never been seen before as not an attraction, but a relationship between a flipping walrus and a human.
	You ultimately...
	Blew the whistle on the mistreatment.
	What was the alleged mistreatment or the improper treatment, alleged abuse, going on at Marineland as relates to walruses, which I'm sure you're going to confirm are very much higher order mammals, intelligent animals that shouldn't be in certain living conditions.
	What were those conditions that you blew the whistle on?
	Well, 10 years removed, I can speak at great length of all of the issues.
	But the ones that largely caused me to quit was there was an indifference from the owner over a period of time when a water disinfection unit broke.
	And because Marineland was closed over the course of the winter, so the public will not be able to have seen the animal.
	Uh-oh.
	The government has taken him.
	Hold on.
	And I can hear, I can feel Phil sweating from the other end.
	Everybody, while he comes back in, do I want to pull up the, I don't know if I want to show, hold on.
	While we're waiting for Phil, he's going to come back in a second.
	Device not connected.
	Do I kick him again?
	I'm going to kick him from the studio and he'll come back in.
	But while he does that, let me just get Wipo.
	Here we go.
	Episode one, the full...
	Oh, that's the full episode.
	No, this might be the trailer.
	No, it's the full episode.
	Phil was on Wipeout, and they put together those stories, and it was great.
	Let's just see if he's back here.
	He looks nervous.
	Uh-oh.
	I'm so apologetic, but I don't understand technology so, so well.
	At my end, I think someone called me.
	Don't worry.
	I mean, everyone in the chat here knows that I've been starting off streams for the last...
	I haven't done it in about a week and a half.
	Audio, video problems.
	Okay, well, you understand my anxiety levels are like...
	As we get going, so hold that.
	That's why I started wearing black shirts so that nobody can see me sweating when stuff goes on.
	I'm glistening.
	So, okay, the water treatment as Marineland closes for the off-season.
	So Marineland closed for the off-season.
	So there was a breakdown of the water disinfection.
	And I'll go into some detail because what we had was an ozone generator.
	And when you use ozone, the gas, you're familiar with ozone.
	In conjunction with chlorine, it mitigates chlorine's use, so you don't actually have to use a lot of it.
	Well, the ozone generator broke.
	So suddenly we're not generating any ozone, so the water goes afoul, it goes green, algae, everything else.
	So the resolve is just put a lot of chlorine in it.
	Well, that over a period of six months, or nearing six months, and in varying degrees of its application, had...
	And then a crazy effect on, as you can imagine, the water-dwelling animals.
	So be it the dolphins.
	They had skin flaking off of them.
	I mean, it was something awful to see.
	The sea lions.
	I had one sea lion.
	The damage to his eye was such that he barked at me while I was trying to force him back into the water because we'd actually removed him for a long period of time.
	Turned out to have an adverse health effect, so we elected to put him back in the water, but because he didn't want to, and I was trying to actually physically push him, he barked, and the lens of his eyeball flew out of his eye, because that's how much damage and corrosion, if you will, that the eye had suffered.
	So we had sea lions going blind.
	They had patches of fur coming off.
	Smushy had a...
	A chemical burn on her rear flippers.
	One of the videos on YouTube, Twitter, or wherever else it is.
	In fact, it's in the documentary, Walrus and the Whistleblower, everybody.
	You see Smooshy walking towards me in the snow, because I used to take her outside very often.
	Because, you know, if people don't know, she would follow me absolutely anywhere.
	And that was a rule that was just something that was unbreakable.
	Absolutely anywhere.
	So, you know, I would very often take her out in the snow and, you know, try to give her some reprieve from what was an awful freaking existence.
	But nonetheless, she had a pretty awful chemical burn.
	You could see her limp in that video.
	But, yeah, we had one sea lion ultimately die.
	It was really awful.
	And so because we were starting to prepare to open the park...
	And it was like two weeks in advance of it.
	And really, the complacency of the owner was such that the water was still green.
	The animals were still...
	I mean, look, I've got to work with animals.
	They've got to be healthy.
	I'm not trying to be like a cold.
	But you know what I mean?
	These are the tools of my trade as well.
	I care about the animals, but this is also something like if you want me to produce a show, I can't have compromised animals.
	How are we going to make sense of this?
	So I just hit the urgency button two weeks before the park was to open.
	And ultimately, I just resolved to quit.
	I quit.
	But of course, it should be said that I made the resolve with Marineland that I can come back at any time to see Smushi because, you know, based on the nature of our relationship, she needed me to be there, both for mental health and her physical health, in fact, too.
	So we made that agreement, if you will, but ultimately...
	You know, as the story, as it goes, and I'll cut it short, but, you know, they don't make good on that, and that's when things change for me very quickly.
	Okay, so you initially quit.
	You didn't go to the media.
	You have this agreement, and then they don't respect it.
	You see what you don't like seeing.
	When do you ultimately go to the media, and then when do they ultimately, some will call it reprisals, but when do they sue you?
	Okay, so, sorry, so the...
	So the media had been contacting me after I'd quit.
	And I should mention, while I was still working there, I was getting contacted by people who had recently quit as they were being contacted by media.
	So there was some interest in, for some reason, ex-employees.
	But of course, there was a lot of interest in my having quit because of the fact that we had been in the media some years before as a big fluff piece.
	So some people were like, hey, the Walrus guy quit.
	What's going on?
	What's going on?
	And I wanted nothing to do with speaking to the media, frankly.
	It wasn't until...
	Marina left me no choice.
	I revisited one time.
	They tried to keep me out of the park.
	I got in.
	I saw Smushi.
	She was in...
	Great deal of danger.
	Had I not seen her there, she'd be dead today.
	I can assure you that.
	Maybe within weeks, days even, of when I saw her.
	And the vet apologized and said, sorry, we couldn't contact you.
	So it was like a whole dramatic scene.
	But that's when I ultimately said to the press, okay, forget about it.
	Put my name, my face, everything.
	Let's go.
	And I could just hear the machines in the back going, let's go, let's go.
	And the print machine went.
	And back then, the Toronto Star, if you will, they're the ones who ultimately broke the story.
	They at least had a really powerful grip on what I would have called credible media back then.
	So they were the right place to go back in, let's say, 2012.
	Frankly, I wouldn't know how else to break a story like that, but the magnitude of it was pretty powerful.
	So you go public, they run articles on it.
	How long from the time you publicly blew the whistle to the time they sued you?
	So the stalking starts first.
	So the owner of a very old, stubborn and quite frankly, dangerous man, he should be regarded as a credible threat, especially being that we'd learned sometime later that he was suffering from cancer.
	So sometimes I would think to myself in retrospect, had he had the opportunity, I wonder how ugly this could have gotten.
	But, you know, he did a lot of driving up and down this street going very slowly.
	The police set up.
	You know, some surveillance cameras, and they caught him a dozen times, but the community was always very soft on John.
	And, you know, I don't want to disparage him.
	Frankly, I thought he was a very fascinating man.
	But nonetheless, they started with that little bit of a campaign.
	They sent some PIs up and down.
	You know, they would catch me in the middle of the street trying to leave for work at 7 a.m.
	So the campaign started fairly immediately.
	They send the police to my house very often, in fact.
	But the lawsuit dropped in February.
	So if the very first story came out in August, I think it was August 10th, don't quote the date, but certainly the month, then be it five months later, whatever February rolls around is when I get the lawsuit.
	And it's important to note that they did not sue me in defamation.
	And you might understand why better than me, but there was a reason that I found it peculiar.
	I'm like, well, I wouldn't have chosen defamation.
	Because truth is the ultimate defense on the one hand.
	And based on the allegations, I presume it would open the door to discovery based on the nature of that accusation.
	What did they sue you for?
	Well, it was basically business interference and, like, intimidation.
	But, you know, the allegations stemmed from, you know, plotting.
	It was basically, I had this large plot to steal a walrus, and I ultimately sent hundreds of people who broke into the park to go make an attempt to steal her.
	But, of course, and some of this did happen.
	I mean, there were a lot of crazy, wild, and pretty awesome animal rights activists that stormed the last dolphin show on the very last day of Marine Land's operating season.
	I wasn't there.
	I wasn't there.
	They're throwing soup on Van Gogh paintings for an actual living animal.
	That's the only reason I can imagine.
	If it's tortious interference with business contracts, you're interfering with their ability to do business.
	Even with tortious interference, though, it presumes an underlying tort.
	The underlying tort might have been breach of confidentiality.
	I don't know.
	Defamation.
	Truth is the ultimate defense, at least outside of...
	We can go over it, but it was a big, long, tedious lawsuit.
	It lasted nearly a decade.
	You made it very public.
	You got onto Rogan.
	You did the rounds in the media.
	You brought the attention you wanted to this.
	Everybody, I met Phil.
	Well, online a while back.
	Then we met in person while the litigation was going on.
	And we just met up again recently in Florida.
	And I said, you look like a different human.
	And this was before I knew that the lawsuit had been settled.
	Explain to people out there who have never been sued.
	I've talked about it at length.
	But explain to them what it feels like, what goes into getting sued, dealing with the stress, the costs indefinitely, and the relief.
	And then tell us what happened with the settlement.
	And there's more there.
	What does it feel like?
	What goes on with nearly 10 years of active litigation?
	Well, first off, I should mention, I don't know that I can entirely celebrate any relief yet because it isn't quite done.
	There's still some complications.
	But it will have lasted.
	By the time those walruses are moved, because we ultimately had a settlement and they are to move those walruses by my birthday, March 21, that'll be a month in excess of a decade.
	So it will have been a full decade plus of litigation.
	But here's what it feels like.
	I learned I was being sued in the media.
	So I never actually got served until I think I learned on the Friday afternoon.
	And I think I got served maybe the Monday or Tuesday.
	So the Friday, it's, you know, you're getting called by the media and they know more about...
	I haven't even been able to read the statement of claim.
	I haven't even the slightest clue.
	They don't want to ask me questions, but frankly, they don't really want to ask me questions.
	They want to make a couple of very quick attempts via a phone call with one ring and hang up an email and then they just go straight to publish and said Phil wasn't available at the time of publication for his blah, blah, blah.
	So, I mean, I don't know if that was the perfect strategy courtesy of Marineland, but, you know, I learned in the media.
	I thought, you know...
	The front pages of my face before I'd even known the context of the lawsuit.
	But yeah, there's a great deal of panic.
	And I mean, frankly, I'm not a rich man.
	I understand litigation to be very expensive.
	So there's always the concern of, well, what's this going to cost me?
	But there's, you know, initially, and especially for me, because I was, I don't know what drove me and managed.
	I don't know what.
	I don't know how we're having this conversation today because if I have to do this again, I don't know that I'd be brazen enough.
	Or naive enough, let's say.
	Because I just assumed because I wasn't...
	I'd been telling the truth and I couldn't understand that I'd done anything illegal, that I'd have some hope in this and that it wouldn't ultimately cost much and that it would take not very much time.
	But, you know, so I just want to get to the Monday when I actually get served.
	So when I get served and I get to read the context of the claim, it's literally in thin air.
	It's a fabrication out of left field.
	I mean, frankly, I'm half tempted to ask Marine Land's lawyer to write my book because it'll be even more fascinating than I could ever write it because, I mean, this thing was a piece of art.
	So there was a level of relief, but again, that was based on my being naive that this wasn't still going to be a very complicated matter.
	So, and I'm just going to keep ranting until you tell me enough's enough, but I'll speak of the various sort of motions and what becomes of a lawsuit.
	So, you know, you're naive to think, okay, well, I've got truth, and I've got a great lawyer, he's saying all the right words, and a judge is going to probably get so angry at Marineland that this can't possibly last long.
	And then you learn what the function of the courts are.
	And basically the courts are there to...
	This is just my opinion after...
	10 years of being embroiled in it, but they're there to dissuade you from using them.
	They're there to the entirety to try to force a resolution between the parties, no matter how unfair or absurd everything is.
	And so here I'd be going to these various motions costing me, you know, between $12,000 and $14,000.
	I would win them, but then I would win.
	I mean, one time I won like $4,000 or $2,000.
	I mean, I never got my cost covered.
	It was always on a partial indemnity, which is a big win, which is a big win evidently.
	But every time I won, I lost.
	And every time I'd think I'd be getting anywhere, it'd be another six months to a year before the next thing would be heard.
	And when we talk about motions, we're talking about some of the most infantile, little, slightest detail.
	Anything to just be able to be put in front of a judge.
	And I can clarify something.
	I remember something.
	There were motions, what we call motions for particulars.
	Like they say, we need some details on your defense.
	I remember there was a refusal to submit to deposition because you wanted one witness in particular.
	The guy didn't want to submit, so you got to go to court.
	Motion to compel a test.
	He says, no, no, take this person, not this person.
	He's like, no, we want this person.
	Then you got, I don't know, motions for costs, things like that.
	So endless, endless motions every day at court is $2,000.
	Just that's the way it is.
	If I may ask, and feel free not to answer, but the aggregate money pissed into thin air, how much did this cost you?
	Quarter million.
	Quarter million on my file, but it should be noted that I tried to pay for two other people's files, and theirs cost between the two of them about a quarter million.
	So all said, it's a half a million dollars of net out-the-door cash.
	And then again, we're still accruing some.
	I mean, I got a bill today.
	It was only $400, you know.
	And you know, brilliantly, that is an only.
	That is an only.
	That's what I can say.
	Whew!
	Okay, I don't have to like, you know, because I'll tell you something.
	It's a thing that I feel as though when Marineland married us, and that's what I felt like they did, they married us, is they knew how much I hate asking for help.
	And that's been the torture in all this, is that I had to, I had to be, you know, I had to reveal my level of vulnerability.
	And frankly, I just had to reveal myself because you're vulnerable in that position anyways, right?
	But I had to display myself, you know, in ways that...
	You know, you want to kind of protect in life.
	And so I don't like asking for help.
	So it's always been tough.
	So I feel as though Marineland really did, they did find ways to punish me and to make me do very uncomfortable things.
	Well, you got to ask the public for crowdfunding, for a defense in a lawsuit that you have no business being in.
	Well, I mean, let's get to the end of it, actually.
	I mean, so I remember a lot of the procedural stuff just endless.
	They're fighting to not get a trial date.
	Did you ever get a trial date before the settlement?
	And you had the upcoming trial and that's what was sort of the...
	We had a pre-trial.
	We had a trial date.
	I believe it was October 3rd.
	And now that pre-trial happened...
	About a year ago today.
	So it was taking a long time to get there.
	But, you know, everything I have to mention over a decade of being in a lawsuit, everything that you think is a really long time away, it eventually comes to pass and you move on to the next one.
	So I've become very patient in ways where it's like, oh, there's a procedural thing in eight months.
	It's just like, okay, where other people are like, rawr!
	I'm just like, dude, this is just funny.
	It's the hurry up and wait part of court is just terrible.
	That's the dreadful part, frankly.
	That's the part that sort of guts people like me, especially.
	I'm a high-energy guy.
	I'm like, I want resolve.
	I want resolution immediately.
	And so, you know, this has been, it's been arduous in that it's against my nature.
	I'm a fighter.
	I'm a drop the buckets fast.
	You know, and I'm not saying it's the good way.
	I'm just saying I'm a very protective person, be it of truth, be it of beings, whatever it is.
	I'm just, I'm that person.
	And so for me, the entirety of this thing has been...
	You know, it's taken a toll on me.
	And here a decade in, I'm only now learning some of the effects it's probably had on it, be it my memory, be it my, you know.
	A lot of things.
	There's a lot of stuff that happens in a decade.
	The owner dies.
	Someone takes over to continue the suit.
	How did it settle?
	What were the terms of the settlement?
	Explain how you got shafted, allegedly, potentially, on the settlement and what you're planning on doing next.
	It starts off with them proposing a net walkaway.
	Of course, we don't even respond.
	And then I'm informed that they've filed a notice of discontinuance and they've dropped the lawsuit against me.
	And so now my lawyer says, okay, well, now you get to go for a costs motion.
	Now I had a counterclaim, but, you know, frankly, the only thing I'd be suing for were my legal costs, which were out the door.
	So I'd be looking at about a quarter million dollars.
	And so my lawyer said, well...
	We go for cost motion and this is a decade of abuse of a process.
	You should walk away with certainly six figures on the north side of 200, let's say.
	Or, Phil, if there's anything you'd like by way of settlement.
	Now, I should mention that we actually went to a settlement conference, which was a big waste of time.
	But back in 2019, we were pretty close, at least.
	We were close enough on moving the walruses.
	This time, they met my terms, if you will.
	And I ultimately elected to just make good with my promise to Smushy.
	And just to back things up very quickly, when I was on that reality TV show, I was only on by virtue of being the walrus mom.
	Otherwise, I have no business being there.
	Now, I win.
	It was $50,000.
	You can't convince me that that's my money.
	It's just one of those things you sit on on a rainy day, especially the person that helped you get it.
	And this is Smooshy.
	So to me, I could not imagine having walked away and not used those resources as best I could.
	And that's just ultimately what got me through the first big hover.
	And so my promise was I was going to use this litigation to steal Smooshy and call me fucking crazy.
	Sorry.
	Call me crazy, man.
	But that's what the decision was.
	I was going to leverage this thing.
	Because everyone kept telling me they'll never go to court, never go to court.
	So I'm like, I just got to take them to trial?
	Yeah, and then they'll have to give you a bunch of money.
	And I'm like, then I'll get the walruses.
	And there was a time my lawyer called me crazy.
	And then there was a time when he said, let's go get those walruses.
	And that's what we did.
	And so, you know, we settled on the two walruses, Smushi and Herb Kaff.
	Who currently do not live together.
	They've been separated since birth.
	They can only hear and see each other.
	So it's quite a torturous existence, frankly.
	And I don't have to tell you just how often the conditions are at Marineland.
	Anywhere is going to be a significant improvement.
	But we did get the detail that Smushi and her calf need to be moved to the same facility, an AZA-accredited facility, within six months of our settlement, which was my birthday, March 21. So coming up in the next four months, I believe.
	Now that I've been told today that there are some crates that are rumored to be at marine land now, and the move is, I'm told, to be imminent.
	I've been told by...
	Very interesting source.
	And so I'm believing some activities will happen very soon on that front.
	But we also negotiated a reunion because I wanted to go back and see her for a number of reasons.
	Number one, I wanted to make sure she was healthy enough by my distinction to move.
	I wouldn't want to compromise her.
	And also, I want to see her.
	I also wanted to walk back in the marine land looking like Connor.
	Conor McGregor walking like this, I gotta tell you.
	I went in there with some swagger, but ultimately they did mess with the reunion.
	It was not as for our settlement.
	No lawyers were there to be found for us to argue to make it right.
	It was very strategically pooched.
	I'm supposed to have pictures and videos, but there's none to be had because their 80s equipment that they'd set up at the back of the park was, you know, the whole thing of it was a bit of a nightmare.
	And so now my lawyer and I are fighting to ultimately get the reunion done again.
	But frankly, that I can tell Marine Line's looking to race that process and have the walruses moved.
	And listen, I'm not going to complain if that's the case.
	It is what it is.
	But frankly, the reason I'm emphasizing that I want a picture of our reunion, because I have to say, although it wasn't ideal because they kept us separate, it was a beautiful moment.
	The people who helped support and contribute towards this thing, they deserve to see that.
	And so I'm fighting for this resolution, not just for me and not just for the walruses, but for the people who fought so voraciously to make this thing happen.
	If it doesn't, then I'll get it done at the next facility.
	And, you know, I don't know that I'll necessarily call it a day with Marineland, but I'm never going to be done with them, frankly.
	I'm looking forward.
	They've kept us married.
	The divorce is such that I still want the kids, be it the dolphins, whales, everything else.
	I want them out.
	Let's go.
	I'll tell you, people have...
	Well, so back this way up.
	People have to understand, once you sue someone, you can't just walk away.
	Say, okay, fine.
	We drop our suit.
	Fine.
	That...
	Other party, the defendant, or the other party gets to ask for court costs.
	When something's gone on, court costs, and in certain jurisdictions outside of Quebec, legal fees, which could be substantial.
	So, Phil, you say, look, I've incurred a quarter of a million dollars in legal fees.
	Just the court costs, stenographers, bailiffs, transcripts, etc., that's tens of thousands easily.
	And just because they discontinue doesn't mean that you get to be stuck holding that bag, so you could go after them for that.
	You just negotiate what you only wanted from the beginning.
	Smooshy and her kid to be put together, to be out of that facility in a quality facility.
	As part of the settlement, they say, we'll do that.
	You drop your claim for legal fees and court costs, and we'll give you the reunion.
	The reunion is supposed to be that beautiful moment where you see Smooshy after nearly a decade of being kept apart from a walrus that has imprinted on you.
	And instead of allowing it to be, I say, no holds barred or no ropes.
	Have the media in there because they could have spun that for the best PR conceivable.
	They decide, either by spite or by incompetence, to have it be a dry, unconnected, a bad reunion that leaves everybody unhappy, that leaves them without what they could have used for good PR, and you want that back.
	But ultimately, they agree to move smooshy by a certain date, and you think that's going to happen.
	So, one victory.
	But I can't get over the stubbornness, the short-sightedness, the malice, or the incompetence that Marineland blew an opportunity that they had to get you in there for the reunion.
	All is forgotten.
	This was the moment.
	And you're going to go to court to try to make that happen because that's what you believe they promised you in the settlement and that's what you wanted to get out of the settlement.
	Well, it's necessary.
	I mean, look, I could just walk away right now and call myself satisfied.
	I mean, yes, I got to see her.
	Yes, she recognized me and tried to make her way to me.
	But the Marineland, you know, their trainers pulled her away from me.
	That was never part of our settlement.
	They'd roped off a section that I was 15 feet further than I should have been to see her.
	I mean, she has awful eyesight.
	She's a walrus.
	The whole of it was absurdity.
	Yeah, they played with it.
	You know, any opportunity I have to stick it to them, I really have to take.
	Because if I walk away with this, you know, they've got some level of satisfaction in this.
	And frankly, I just...
	You know, I'm uncomfortable with it.
	It's deserved.
	It's owed.
	It's what I negotiated.
	I mean, look, I could have taken the $250,000, and the reality is they probably would have been forced to move those walruses in due time anyways.
	We're working on legislation as we speak, the Jane Goodall Act, which would have eradicated the walrus captivity and the performances in Canada.
	Anyways, I mean, we had sort of backdoor plans.
	I mean, look, this was a multifaceted attack.
	I've also noted that we passed a law over the course of this battle that banned Marine.
	Rather, whale, dolphin, and porpoise captivity in Canada.
	They can't be bred.
	They can't be imported.
	We put a lot of thorns in Marineland's side, but frankly, they did it to themselves.
	This is just another example of that.
	More and more every day, I'm losing the hate that I had.
	It's not the hate.
	I guess you'd call it the pride or the thing that kept me a thorn in their side.
	I just don't feel that as much anymore.
	Once she's removed from that space, and if they do it quickly...
	You know, I'm going to be pretty happy.
	I don't know that I really want to deal with courts anymore, frankly.
	I don't love them, and I know the prospect of getting this reunion again is going to have to cost me...
	$10,000 to $15,000, which I don't know that I can raise anymore.
	I mean, listen, I did 10 years of this with Momentum.
	I don't know that this can continue.
	So I guess I could say I've been spoiled with the amount of litigation that this did buy because not a lot of people get to actually turn into a threat in a litigation like this.
	I mean, frankly, I turned the tables on them.
	I had the best seat in the house.
	So the ride's been a good one.
	I don't mind wrapping it up on a more positive, heart-filled note than worry about some of the petty shit that they're dealing with.
	If she gets out and you get your good reunion at the next facility, do you have any idea where she's supposed to go?
	I have ideas.
	I have hopes.
	I certainly wanted to go to Point Defiance Zoo in Tacoma, Washington.
	It's beautiful.
	They just got two walruses that were formerly at the Quebec Aquarium.
	I've been negotiating long and hard for that place to happen.
	It's a nice climate.
	I've spoken with the trainers.
	They're great.
	It's display only.
	They're not going to be doing any shows.
	They get to live together.
	Frankly, it's quite a dreamy space.
	There are a couple SeaWorlds.
	I have spoken to a trainer at SeaWorld San Diego.
	I don't really want to take up a war with SeaWorld.
	I don't love them.
	It's not going to feel like a great celebration if they go there.
	But, you know, I should mention that in speaking with the trainer, he was a great guy.
	His heart's in the right place.
	They're not performing.
	It's display only.
	It's an Arctic display.
	She still gets to live with her baby, which, you know, listen, you have to understand with Smushy, she suffered from separation anxiety from her original mother.
	She suffered from separation anxiety from me.
	She's currently suffering from separation anxiety from her baby.
	The very best thing for her to happen for her to become a walrus, to become a complete walrus, is to live with her baby.
	And ultimately to forget about me.
	So if this could happen and she could just live with her baby, you know, I don't want her doing waves and shows anymore.
	But most of the facilities that I understand, the five facilities that she can go to in the U.S. That are AZA accredited, which was something I stipulated in the settlement.
	You know, they ultimately get my thumbs up.
	I don't want to list a least favorite because I need to become best friends with these facilities, whether we like it or not.
	So it is what it is.
	I'll roll in as fast as I can when she's there.
	And, you know, just to make sure she's got a smooth landing.
	And then that's it, man.
	I'm out of here.
	Well, now that's the next question.
	What are your plans going forward now?
	Well, I'll tell you something.
	I've developed a niche skill.
	Of, A, destroying captive facilities.
	I'm really effective.
	I've got a big voice now.
	The social medias are on fire.
	You know, these days I'm flying helicopters over the Miami Sea Quermes.
	As you know, that's why I was there.
	I hosted a protest on Thanksgiving weekend.
	Wonderful.
	I had the people from all over the place.
	I had people flying from Puerto Rico.
	I had an Australian there.
	I had some Canadians.
	Oh, it's wonderful.
	And so I'm having a time basically being a real thorn in facility size.
	I intend on registering very soon my own...
	Not-for-profit.
	It's going to be a little bit of a rebellious sea initiative.
	I don't want to get too much into it, but yeah, I intend on doing some direct action and keep this thing going.
	And frankly, my favorite moment in life is hard negotiating for an animal's release.
	And frankly, I think that that's what I want to do all over the place.
	There's a lot more animals that need to be released or at least brought to an improved facility, whatever it be.
	And so, frankly, if I can bring a lot of noise and bring these animals alive and give them a name, then that's what I should be doing.
	I'm back on Monday.
	I'm back in Miami.
	I don't want to reveal too much of what I'm doing.
	Don't and Phil, maybe we'll meet up again.
	I'll bring my GoPro.
	Phil, okay.
	Where can people find you?
	You're on Twitter?
	Walrus Whisperer?
	Walrus Whisperer Twitter, Walrus Whisperer Instagram.
	Forget Facebook.
	I just hate it.
	But I know this is like awful too, but I've got a TikTok.
	I've no choice.
	I'm dominating.
	I'm having a time.
	You know, I'm getting these millions and millions and millions of views, but it's working.
	It's raining terror on these facilities, so I have no choice.
	But over there, I'm called Urgent Seas, as in urgent.
	S-E-A-S.
	Otherwise, you can just put my name, Phil Demers, and you'll find me.
	But definitely follow me on all those things and stay tuned, man.
	We're buckled in for a wild ride, even yet.
	Awesome.
	Phil, text me when you're in Florida and chat.
	Someone in the chat said, water your plant behind you.
	Okay, we'll do.
	I'm water, baby.
	Don't sue me.
	Phil, text me Monday.
	We'll meet up again.
	We'll do.
	Okay.
	All right, awesome.
	Have a good one.
	Cheers, my brother.
	Peace.
	I'll tell you something, light and day, not light and day, light and dark, night and day, the difference.
	Phil, you know, is at the end of the litigation, but technically settled, although he might not be happy with the execution of the settlement, but night and day, demeanor, physique, spirit.
	The stress of litigation is not something that anybody can understand until they've gone through.
	A year of it is too much.
	A decade.
	Is atrocious, especially for someone.
	All he ever wanted was to not steal Smushy, not free Smushy, have her go to a facility that would be better than where she was at.
	Okay, now, hold on.
	There seems to be a lot of trolls.
	I say trolls.
	Let me see what's going on in the chat on the rumbles.
	He has to use TikTok.
	No choice, says Molten Salt.
	Look, TikTok's not all bad.
	It's just 96% bad.
	Okay, well, those were our two guests today.
	I'm very happy they both came because we got updates, important updates, at the risk of people calling me whatever for actually treating Jeremy McKenzie like a human being.
	Call me whatever.
	Jeremy McKenzie is a human being.
	Humans are necessarily imperfect.
	What he's charged with and what he has done in the real world I think are wildly different.
	And the treatment that he's gotten, even as an accused, is atrocious in any free and democratic society.
	No, the show's not over, JC for Texas.
	The show's not over, people.
	We've still got to cover the actual news.
	It'll be over soon.
	Oh, boy.
	The show is not...
	You've got to play the troll, sheeple hunter.
	There's no walrus emoji.
	Everyone break shit, says First Amendment rights.
	But the show's not over.
	And in fact, I'd say the most important thing of the day...
	I have my pages in the back, my homework.
	Let's get away from the Canadian stuff for a second.
	I have to remember what I talked about in our Locals exclusive and make sure that I don't think I've talked about it during a live stream.
	You all...
	This is...
	Parentheses.
	New story.
	I have found the social media warfare.
	Being used to wage the public opinion war for the war between Russia and Ukraine, to garner public support, to demonize dissenting thought and dissenting discourse, it has been scarily identical to the war against COVID, to gin up public sentiment, to support certain measures, to demonize any dissenting opinion, any...
	Questioning discourse.
	Yesterday I saw this video.
	I'm not going to play the music actually just because it doesn't matter.
	It's a video put out from a blue checkmark Ukraine government organization of a soldier, but she clearly seems to be a professional trained dancer, doing a TikTok video.
	This is setting aside any of my underlying opinions, assessments, point of views on the Russia-Ukraine war.
	It's much more nuanced than some people want it to be because apparently it's black and white, cut and dry.
	No history that predates 2022.
	Setting all that aside.
	Uh, It's shocking.
	It is mutatis mutandis what was done to garner, to steer public opinion on COVID.
	And you'll recall...
	Seven pillars of marketing.
	I think it's seven pillars of digital marketing.
	TikTok videos of doctors in hallways doing TikTok dances, doing synchronized dances about getting vaccinated.
	One element of washing the minds or washing the brains or brainwashing.
	In COVID.
	Syringes in avatars.
	Changing profile pictures to indicate public support for.
	Demonizing any dissenting opinion.
	It was, you support these measures or you want Granny to die.
	In Ukraine, it is, you believe this narrative or you are a Putin shill.
	You are literally supporting Hitler.
	And it was like a deep, dark awakening for me that it's never been any different except by degree.
	There is a literal...
	I'm going to sound like Alex Jones.
	There's a war going on, and it's for your perception.
	And social media is the propaganda of old on absolute steroids.
	I said this yesterday.
	Holy crap.
	Red and white avatars being changed.
	The Ukraine flag in profile pictures.
	TikTok videos.
	Syringes.
	Face masks in profile pictures.
	TikTok videos.
	And then yesterday...
	Sure enough.
	Sure enough.
	Where is it?
	Zelensky.
	Is this the one?
	Not now.
	Oh, no.
	Zelensky being...
	Well, whatever.
	You've heard the news.
	Zelensky being named Person of the Year.
	And I didn't even know that this was the case.
	I only found this out during the Locals Exclusive chat earlier today.
	Today...
	Zelensky is named Person of the Year.
	Person of the Year as the sixth or seventh, I don't know, whichever pillar of marketing we're on right now.
	And I didn't even know this.
	In 2021, Merriam-Webster has declared vaccine.
	It's 2021 Word of the Year.
	I mean, this is a strategy.
	It's a technique.
	It's an orchestrated effort at the level of government, media, influencers.
	And it is so perfectly identical, mutatis mutandis, it shocked even me.
	Peter Stokowski, editor-at-large for Dictionary, says lookups for the word increased 601% over 2020.
	They have a person of the year for Ukraine, Zelensky.
	They've got TikTok videos, avatars, profile pictures, dissenting opinions crushed.
	Word of the year vaccines, syringes, masks and profile pictures, dissenting opinions crushed.
	If you're not all for, you are all against.
	There is no room for discourse.
	There is no room for understanding at a deeper level.
	There's no room for questions.
	Shut up, obey, and here are your sunglasses.
	Enjoy the day.
	That rhymes.
	And it's amazing.
	The media is the virus.
	It says Maple Syrup 123A.
	But it was like one of those dark moments.
	Like, holy shit.
	Am I crazy for seeing this?
	Or am I the one who's crazy for thinking everybody has to be seeing this?
	It's like...
	I mean, it's always been this way.
	And both sides have always had their propaganda.
	The poster of the woman making a flexing arm.
	We can do this.
	Both sides have always had it, and some sides have done it more effectively than others.
	Now, for those of you who don't know, today, I met Rackets and Mrs. Rackets, and he met Viva and Mrs. Viva.
	Let me see this.
	Rackets was in Florida.
	At the risk, I'm sure he...
	No, he disclosed why.
	He's got an agreement with Rumble.
	And he did a live stream from headquarters yesterday.
	And we met up.
	We drove down to Miami this morning.
	Mr. and Mrs. Viva.
	Look at this.
	Mr. and Mrs. Rackets.
	Oh, this is in our locals community.
	Rackets is much taller than me.
	I have yet to meet anybody that I have known through the interwebs who's not taller than me.
	And it was fun.
	It's surreal meeting people who you've only known online.
	And seeing them in person for the first time.
	You know that you know each other.
	You feel that you know each other.
	But there's just something fundamentally different of seeing someone in person for the first time.
	Rackets is, in real life, who he is on the interwebs.
	Quite fantastic.
	It was great.
	And congrats.
	Congrats, Rackets.
	And we'll do it again.
	Now, I hear a dog whining for dinner.
	See, I don't remember.
	I was talking about Pudge.
	Here, or was I talking about Pudge waking me up at 3 in the morning for food in Locals?
	I don't remember.
	It doesn't matter.
	The story that should enrage you, and if it doesn't enrage you, the question is going to be, what will it take to enrage you?
	Should I pull up the video of the ad?
	I'm not going to.
	You may recall, just recently...
	No, I'm going to.
	I'm going to.
	Right after I read...
	This super chat.
	Thomas X Hatfield says, to put the New York Times person of the year into perspective, it's not necessarily a good thing.
	They had Hitler as a person of the year in 1938.
	Zelensky is not worse.
	Okay, so put it into perspective.
	They had Putin as person of the year, I believe, in 2007.
	It is not necessarily a good thing, like someone who's been the best person of the year.
	They did have Hitler as person of the year.
	Who else did they have who were...
	Person of the Year, not for good reasons.
	They have people who have influenced the world.
	People who have been instrumental in change.
	I guess for good or for bad in Hitler's case.
	People who have had an impact on the world.
	It's not always an award.
	Holy Facts says H2O.
	I don't know what that means.
	Actually, let me just read.
	I know I screen grabbed many of the Rumble Rants.
	There was one from Chet Chisholm.
	Two important videos to watch Dr. John Campbell covering the German myocarditis study.
	Chris Martinson, Peak Prosperity, discussing the fibrinogen clots and explaining the pathology behind them.
	Trudeau is the actor we have heard about.
	Trudeau is the actor we have heard about.
	Medic Deb $10 Rumble rant.
	And Chet Chisholm had another one that says, both Chris and Dr. Campbell would make excellent guests on Rumble.
	Please do some coverage of the upcoming National Citizens Inquiry.
	Everybody out there, don't brigade him.
	Please ask John Campbell to come on the channel.
	It would not only be it.
	I'll do it on both.
	I'll do it on both.
	Or at least I'll do it on Rumble exclusively and then bring it over to YouTube.
	Text John Campbell, say, go on Viva for a sidebar or have Viva on him.
	I do the live stuff.
	All right, MedicDeb, that's it.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay.
	Yeah, who won the Nobel Prize?
	Joker76 says, I remember Yasser Arafat winning it.
	That was the time...
	I remember Obama winning it.
	That was about the time you realized...
	It's not...
	Questionable.
	Questionable how Obama won it before drone bombing families and weddings and extrajudicial killings of American citizens.
	You know, bygones.
	Hold on.
	I almost forgot.
	I talk about sponsors.
	I don't talk about my own sponsor.
	People, we've got merch.
	At vivafry.com.
	I need to get me my anti-authority rhetoric shirt.
	I'm wearing the who, what, when, why, where.
	It always gets questions in public.
	But I need to get the anti-rhetoric t-shirt.
	If you go to vivafry.com and you want something for Christmas, I like selling shirts because at the end of the day, everybody needs to wear a shirt.
	And pants.
	Unless...
	Do I have a joke?
	I don't want to be mean to anybody who was caught.
	Not wearing pants for whatever the reason on the interwebs.
	But I swear to you, I never go out wearing my politics ruins everything shirt without somebody saying, I love that shirt.
	So true.
	I wonder if after they go to the website Viva Fry and see what I do, if they think I'm a lying hypocrite, or if they think politics has ruined me, or they understand why I say it, because politics ruins everything.
	Science, music, comedy.
	Arts, sports.
	Heck, politics ruins politics.
	But I love it.
	When I wear that shirt, everybody always, not everybody, at least somebody always comments on that shirt.
	If you're looking for Christmas gifts, everybody needs clothing.
	Okay, let's get to what's going to piss you off.
	And if it doesn't piss you off, you got problems.
	Simon's is a Canadian clothing...
	I think it might even be only a Quebec clothing store, but it's Simon's.
	It's got that little green logo.
	I used to pick up my suits there.
	Simon's All is Beauty.
	Simon's deciding to get into the social commentary supporting euthanasia industry because that's what corporations are supposed to do.
	I'm not playing the whole thing, and I'm going to turn the volume...
	This is a portion of the video, people.
	Let's make sure we're looking at the same thing, and we are.
	Listen to this.
	Dying in a hospital is not what's natural.
	That's not what's soft.
	In these kind of moments, you need softness.
	That's all we're watching, because it's going to make me too angry.
	I'll say it every time, just so nobody misunderstands anything.
	I am not...
	I am not against euthanasia.
	I am not against people choosing to die with dignity.
	We are well past death with dignity for terminally ill people whose existence is nothing but misery and suffering for the short period of time that they have left on this earth.
	Period.
	Simon's is a goddamn clothing store.
	Made a three-minute video to someone named Jennifer.
	And at first, when everyone's shitting on it, I'm saying, okay, I watched it.
	It's a three-minute video.
	And I'm like, I said, it cannot be that Simon has decided to foray into making pro-euthanasia videos.
	Not that you can have that opinion and apply it properly.
	Few people should take issue with it.
	At first, when everyone's freaking out about this, I said, no, surely it's just Simon's agreeing to subsidize someone's dying wish.
	Someone wants to make their own video.
	They don't have the money.
	They don't have the means to do it.
	Simon says, here's a bursary.
	Here's a...
	What's the word I'm looking for?
	It's not a subsidy.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	Here's a grant.
	Make the project yourself, Jennifer.
	Not everybody has 15, 20...
	That thing probably costs like a good 50,000 bucks to make, at least.
	Not everybody has that.
	Jennifer is presumably terminally ill, hence the request for medical assistance in dying.
	Doesn't necessarily have the means or the ability to do it.
	I thought maybe Simon said, here's a grant.
	Tell your story.
	Oh, no.
	No, no.
	Simon, we listened to the interview of the chief marketing officer, whoever it was from Simon's, explaining why they did it.
	They did this video.
	They said after the last two years of everything we've been through, they thought it was an important discussion to get into.
	Simon, they made the video.
	Three minutes, Jennifer had full creative control, I guess, or veto power.
	They showed her the product, she approved of it, and they went with it.
	Jennifer was euthanized.
	Jennifer was given the medical assistance and time.
	Well, the National Post ran a story.
	When I first started talking about it, and I didn't know all the details, but I knew that it was no longer a case of Simon's...
	Grant, you know, given a grant so Jennifer could produce this.
	It was Simons themselves saying, we're doing this.
	It's our project.
	We think this, we want to get into this domain of politics, life, law, humanity.
	After everything everyone's been through over the last two years, we decide to glorify ending your own life.
	Someone said during that stream, and I remember it, Jennifer did not have a terminal illness.
	She had a disease or a condition, which I couldn't identify.
	And I said, interesting.
	I can neither confirm nor deny that, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation.
	Well, National Post just went and eliminated all doubt.
	I'll show you the article.
	We're not going to go through the whole article, but National Post confirmed that and more.
	Woman featured in pro-euthanasia commercial wanted to live, save friends.
	Quote, I'm feeling like I'm falling through the cracks, so if I'm not able to access healthcare, am I then able to access death care?
	Hatch said in a CTV interview.
	Jennifer Hatch, with a Y, just in case anybody wants to look it up and get the right one, 37 was the central figure in Of All Is Beauty, a three-minute film produced by Simons that celebrated Hatch's last days before seeking medically-assisted death.
	That's the article.
	I'm just going to go to the highlighted sections, which I shared the screen grabs and the links, so sometimes I just feel like I'm going crazy, that I have to be misunderstanding the world, and I'm not, and it makes me sick.
	This is the headline here.
	Look at this.
	Last week, CTV confirmed that Hatch was the same woman who had spoken to them in June.
	About her failed attempts to find proper treatment for Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, a rare and painful condition in which patients suffer from excessively fragile skin and connective tissues.
	She was seeking proper treatment for a very painful condition.
	And when she couldn't find that in the socialized healthcare system of Canada, well, well, well, the government offers you a very, very wonderful alternative, death.
	Hey, and it saves them millions of dollars as well.
	I feel like I'm falling through the cracks, so if I'm not able to access healthcare, am I then able to access death care?
	And that's what led me to look into need.
	Okay.
	Then I looked up the condition, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome.
	There are two types.
	Classical and hypermobility forms of elder syndrome have a normal life expectancy.
	About 80% of patients with vascular Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, that's a different type, will experience a major health event by the age of 40, and their life expectancy is shortened with an average age of death of 48 years.
	I can't pretend to know the differences.
	I just know that the vascular Ehlers-Danlos syndrome results in thinning of arterial lining.
	Basically, injury can lead to bleeding, to death, stroke, and all sorts of other premature deaths that shorten the life, whereas classical or hypermobility forms, painful but normal life expectancy.
	She chose death because in Canada's socialized, free healthcare for all, she couldn't get...
	Adequate healthcare to the point where she chose death.
	The woman featured was not only not suffering from a fatal illness, she wanted to live but couldn't get proper care.
	State-sanctioned murder.
	The blood is on Justin Trudeau's hands.
	It's not just a black pill.
	It's not a doom pill.
	It's not.
	The most shocking thing about all of this is the moving of the needle.
	The moving of the goalposts and people who are not trolls, who seem to be humans with brains, justifying this and then justifying it to themselves.
	So I get into a bit of a back and forth with someone in my Twitter feed who has created a Twitter account to address my misrepresentations of Canadian law.
	And I know that I'm not supposed to engage with trolls.
	And sometimes you do it to, you know, inform the general public by way of.
	People say, they're terminally ill.
	What do you have against it?
	It's like, first of all, this syndrome is not a terminal illness.
	Period.
	It's a condition, not a terminal illness.
	To which these goalpost-moving trolls, seemingly with very little respect for the sanctity of human life, say, It causes a shortened life expectancy.
	There's a difference between reduced life expectancy from a condition and a terminal illness.
	Do you know what else results in reduced life expectancy, shortened life expectancy?
	Diabetes, obesity, heart condition.
	Those are not terminal illnesses.
	One has a meaning and the other has a different meaning.
	But the idea now...
	That there is a segment of the Canadian population that are being induced into believing that now what satisfies for medical assistance in dying, euthanasia, or other names, mercy killings once upon a time, what satisfies the criteria now is the inability of the system to provide adequate healthcare and reduce life expectancy.
	And this is how it's the slow degradation.
	Of humanity.
	I mean, it's enraging that people can now...
	The choice to die is an individual's choice.
	When the government has a vested interest in a specific outcome, as they do, by the way, because, hold on, life can only be understood backwards, yet it must be lived forwards.
	Oh, here's the Zelensky person of the year.
	Life can only be understood forwards.
	CBC.
	Maids.
	Cost save millions.
	Look at this.
	I know.
	I saw a recent study on this.
	Look at this.
	CBC.
	State funded media.
	Canadian Pravda.
	Medically assisted deaths could save millions in healthcare spending.
	Report.
	No judgment.
	No.
	Absolute outrage.
	Let's see.
	Across Canada, Journal calculates up to $136 million in savings.
	CBC, funded by the federal government.
	It's the federal government, whomever it happens to be, but it just happens to be liberal now.
	Over a billion dollars, $1.2 billion tax dollar funding of CBC and Radio Canada.
	New research suggests medical-assisted dying could result in substantial savings.
	Oh, did I need...
	Holy shit.
	Did I need research to tell me that killing someone is cheaper than letting them live and providing health?
	Did I need research to that?
	Thank you, Captain Murderous Obvious.
	By the way, this is from January 23rd, 2017.
	I bet no one knew where this was really going to go at the time, except some people probably knew.
	Hey, new research says...
	Letting people kill themselves instead of treating them will save money for the government.
	And who rubber stamps the certification for the medical assistance in dying?
	The government that stands to benefit hundreds of millions of dollars by granting them the right to die.
	Doctor-assisted death could reduce annual health care spending across the country by between $34 million and $136 million, according to a report in the Canadian Medical Association.
	The savings exceedingly outweigh the estimate.
	$1.5 to $14.8 million in direct costs associated with killing Canadians.
	The takeaway, quote, the takeaway point is that there may be some upfront costs with offering it, but there may also be a reduction in spending elsewhere in the system because you're not a human anymore under the Canadian healthcare system.
	You are a burden.
	You're a financial burden, and the government now has a vested interest in allowing you to eliminate your own...
	Financial burden from the system.
	And they decide when to approve it and when not to.
	The research...
	I just think that I'm shocked that I want to make sure that...
	End of life costs high in Canada.
	Is there any rage in here?
	The report also emphasized that it is only a cost analysis and doesn't include the clinical effects.
	On patients.
	Patient-level research will need to be done before true economic evaluation of medical...
	No outrage!
	No disgust!
	No, no...
	Oh, I'm sorry, government.
	Has the cost of human life and your inability to provide adequate healthcare, is that the motivation?
	To grant people the right to die so you can say they can get killed now?
	None of that.
	And why would there be?
	You don't want to bite the hand that feeds you.
	The fat little wild animal that once was the media, or sorry, the lean, eager go-getter of a wild animal that the media used to be and ought to be, has now become a fat, gluttonous little pig, sucking at the teeth of the government, not even questioning,
	not even, not, not even not questioning, not getting outraged at the notion that the government would say, hey, if we expand euthanasia to the non-terminally ill, We could save a lot of money.
	Hey, if we expand it to the mentally ill, people who, in law, are incapable of consent in some circumstances, if we let them do it, we'll really save some money.
	Oh, hold up!
	If we expand it to children and minors, we'll really save some money.
	Geez, imagine ending the life of...
	The earlier you end the life of someone, the more money you save off whatever healthcare would be required for them.
	And then you get...
	These entities pressuring people with PTSD.
	Veterans calling to live, they suggest dying.
	People looking for adequate housing can't get it.
	Have you thought about death?
	And it's happened.
	People with chemical sensitivities can't afford proper housing, choosing death, and the government authorizing it.
	But I'm the rage bait dude for raging against this dying of the night.
	Dying of whatever it is.
	If it doesn't shock you, you got problems.
	If it doesn't shock you, you got problems.
	There's no words.
	It's state-sanctioned murder.
	It went from terminally ill, dying with dignity, to not even terminally ill with conditions that the system can't handle, to not even...
	Not even physically ill, and I don't say not even as in mental illness is any less debilitating than physical illness, but physical illness in the context of medical assistance and dying, euthanasia, or as it was once called, mercy killing, physical illness is a lot easier to identify as a legitimate potential justification for euthanasia.
	Expand it to mental illness.
	Expand it to mental illness and minors.
	It's a crime against humanity, but I guess it's more specifically a crime against Canada, Canadians.
	And it's cloaked under the veil of benevolence.
	Humanity.
	Death with dignity.
	Because the system that the government has set, the government system to treat the ill is so crappy, so fundamentally corrupt, wasteful, incapable of handling the seasonal flu.
	Hey, you know, it would save us a lot of money.
	Let them kill themselves.
	Let me go to the chat and just see here.
	Oh, by the way, yeah.
	That's setting aside all of the other potential corruption that can occur.
	Organ harvesting, organ donation.
	Oh, no.
	That's crazy.
	That's Alex Jones-level conspiracy stuff.
	Once upon a time, allowing...
	Physically healthy but mentally ill people to choose to end their lives would have been Alex Jones conspiracy stuff.
	Once upon a time, letting people with chemical sensitivities, i.e.
	allergies, end their lives because they can't get affordable housing and the government can't do anything about it would have been conspiracy theory.
	It would have been the stuff of Soylent Green level science fiction.
	And shocker, it's reality now.
	Okay.
	Moving on.
	Moving on, but don't forget.
	Okay.
	On the lighter side of things, sarcasm translates very badly on Twitter.
	Dave Rubin tweets, Rubin report, upon return from New York, I have tested positive for COVID.
	Thankfully, by the way, I read this three times and didn't realize that he said unvaxxed.
	I'm so conditioned to the generic Boilerplate, NPC response.
	I didn't even read this properly the first three times.
	And I was like, oh my goodness, why is Dave writing this?
	Upon my return from New York, I have tested positive for COVID.
	Thankfully, I am unvaxxed and not boosted and only experiencing mild symptoms.
	I've taken the dog for a long walk already, excuse me, and will exercise, eat right, and drink water throughout the day.
	And show will be live at 11 a.m.
	I got Dave's senses.
	I got Dave's, well, I know Dave's.
	Funny guy and what he meant.
	So I write, it's obvious that your mild symptoms are only because so many other people stepped up and got vaccinated.
	Stepped up being the Justin Trudeau brainwashing catchphrase.
	Canadians have stepped up and gotten double-vaxxed, boosted, quite a little boosted, and then they stepped up even more by thanking the vaccine after they still got COVID.
	That's the worst Justin Trudeau.
	The amount of people who didn't...
	I mean, I guess it's good because it shows that I've got a lot of new faces following my feed.
	The amount of people who didn't know that I was being clearly sarcastic, it's not a reflection of their intelligence at all.
	It is actually only a reflection of their newness to my Twitter feed to think that that would be something that I would say seriously.
	Because you know what the funny thing is?
	After I read it, I'm like...
	There are people who are going to argue this.
	There are people out there who would actually seriously argue this, that because so many other people got the jibby jab, that somehow it has affected the virulence of the strain, and that's what allowed it to mutate into a more mild version, so that even the selfish bastards who are unvaccinated and unboosted, like Dave Rubin, reap the benefits of the stepping up of the vaccinated.
	Because that's how stupid some people can act.
	Oh, not the people who believe them.
	That's how stupid the people could be who would actually raise that argument in an unironic manner.
	You know what?
	I was going to put an LOL.
	I was going to put a winky face.
	I was going to put a slash sarcasm.
	I did not think it was necessary.
	But it's good to know that there's a lot of new faces on my Twitter feed who actually thought that was serious.
	Welcome to the Viva Fry.
	Because on Twitter, some dude in Russia has Viva Fry.
	And I had to settle with the Viva Fry.
	I think now that about does it for what we had.
	I had an article about...
	This is from 2019.
	What country was it?
	What country was it?
	Denmark?
	I think it was, has Denmark gone too far on euthanasia?
	Well, Canada, Justin Trudeau.
	Denmark, hold my beer.
	Hold my lethal injection.
	It's high pass gone too far, but okay.
	So we'll skip that.
	I don't think we need that.
	No, we're good.
	We did it.
	I have a good video to play us out, by the way.
	But before we do that, because this is...
	Local, handcrafted art.
	And she doesn't just do it for us.
	It's brand new for us.
	Ziggy Shrugged, who's been around the community for a long time, fantastic.
	In as much as you can know people based on their consistent postings and social media, Ziggy Shrugged has a lot of handcrafted artwork.
	And she does the work for Eric Hundley, America's Untold Stories, Laidback News, Christmas Ornaments, people.
	I view Christmas as a non-religious holiday.
	So we might actually get a Christmas tree this year.
	Go to...
	It's Creations by Ziggy.
	And you can actually get Christmas ornaments for the people who celebrate Christmas.
	And I believe there's also dreidels and that type of stuff for the people who celebrate Hanukkah.
	And I'm saying Hanukkah like that because I love it.
	So Ziggy Shrugged.
	It's Creations by Ziggy for some absolute unique stuff that you will not see elsewhere because nobody else is doing it.
	Creations by Ziggy.
	And you can get a bunch of other stuff from other content creators as well for your Christmas trees, menorahs, and I don't know, if you just want Christmas balls or dreidels.
	It's a little known fact that spinning the dreidel is a form of gambling.
	But it's equal gambling.
	There's only four options.
	The house never wins.
	Unless you're the parent and you take a cut of the gambling, which sometimes you do.
	But that cut is usually in chocolate and not actual money.
	Okay, everybody.
	We're done for the night.
	This was amazing.
	People are joining now.
	I feel bad.
	Now we're over 7,000 viewers and I'm ending it.
	But you came just in time for a classic Play Us Out video back in the day when Viva was still wet behind the ears, not yet fully red-pilled, making Quirky videos.
	When I make my Lex Friedman reply video tomorrow, I believe people are going to pee their pants laughing.
	Once upon a time, there was a Dear Casey video.
	Jack Conte of Patreon.
	When everyone thought Patreon was going to be the answer to censorship and has since become the problem.
	Die a hero or live long enough to become the villain, as they say in Batman.
	Jack Conte made a Dear Casey video trying to get Casey Neistat's attention.
	I made a Dear Casey video.
	I'm parodying Jack Conte's Dear Casey video, and it was classic.
	So before I play this video to play us out, thank you all for being here.
	Snip clip, share around whatever you want.
	Go check out yesterday's sidebar with Carl Benjamin was amazing.
	It had some moments, but go check that out.
	Sponsor, thank you very much.
	Home title lock for anybody who has property in America.
	VivaFry.com for your merch.
	Better stuff than this.
	I'm getting the anti-authority rhetoric for Christmas.
	And Creations by Ziggy.
	Don't lose faith, but do not have blind faith because nobody's going to make something happen if you don't make it happen for yourself.
	The idea of having so much faith that you sit down and say, it will come to me, that's not how things work.
	God helps those who help themselves.
	Just make sure to do it in a way that does not give anybody any excuses to justify the foregone conclusions to which they've already come or the injustices that they think they're morally authorized to impose on others.
	Jeremy McKenzie, despite some stupid things that he said, despite some stupid things that he may have done, I have no idea about the other stuff.
	His Pierre Poilievre comment.
	None of us should be judged and executed for the dumbest or worst things we've ever done to the extent that they've actually not hurt anybody.
	And none of us should be permanently judged and permanently banished for the worst things or the dumbest things we might have ever said.
	Nobody's perfect.
	Period.
	Nobody should be forgiven for their crimes.
	Or you should be forgiven for your crimes, but you should also have to repent and atone for your crimes.
	All that to say, Jeremy has said some things that are things that I wouldn't say.
	But there's nothing that justifies the treatment that he has been forced to endure.
	But even Jeremy, during the protest, said, do not give them an excuse.
	This guy who they're accusing of being a domestic terrorist, forming extremist groups, said, do not give them an excuse.
	Avoid problems.
	If you see something, report it, and do not let them have the excuse.
	That is my advice as well.
	Do not give them the excuse.
	Do not become the monster that you are battling, for when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares right back at you.
	Conduct yourselves in a way that would make your parents, your children, your pets proud.
	You can do no wrong, and do not expect things to change on their own.
	Awareness.
	Pressure and public mockery of the madness is the strategy that I have adopted.
	Now, with that said, everybody, let's get some cringe going because it's cringe.
	See you tomorrow.
	What day is it?
	Today's Wednesday.
	Who do we have for tomorrow?
	I don't know what we have for tomorrow.
	I'll find out tonight.
	To play us out, pure cringe and stay tuned for my Lex Friedman reply video.
	This is Dear Casey.
	Hi, Casey.
	This is Viva Frye.
	I'm a commercial litigator turned YouTuber, but this is not about YouTube and it's not about my channel.
	This is just between you and me, you and me, and, well, I guess my two kids in the background, between them two, and...
	Just between you, me, and my kids, and, well, okay, yeah, and one of my dogs, and...
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	This dog, also one of my other dogs.
	Just you and me, my kids, the dogs.
	Oh, yeah, wait, my neon tetra.
	And my wife.
	You, me, the kids, my dogs, one, me on Tetra, and my wife.
	There's one more kid.
	I don't know where she is.
	We're here in my studio on the weekend.
	My studio consists of kids' toys everywhere.
	Boxes and boxes.
	Kids' toys, toys, toys.
	Everything's a mess.
	I don't have an office of my own.
	This is our boardroom desk.
	Pretty much, there's kids' toys everywhere.
	Actually, I lied.
	I do have a studio.
	I clearly delineated with the pink duct tape.
	We got our exercise room here and my actual office right here.
	Over here, I have my DVD collection and alphabetized.
	That's great.
	Got some hard drives over here.
	Hard drives over here.
	Hard drive, hard drive, hard drive.
	I got my old camera stuff over here.
	It's not possible.
	It's not possible!
	Seriously?
	Oh my gosh!
	All right, Casey, so jokes aside, I'm not going to be able to keep up with...
	Jack Conti's editing skills.
	I'm on my iPhone.
	All I have are the generic noises that you have on iMovie.
	I'm not a CEO of a powerful company either.
	I'm also president of Beaver Fry Productions, Inc., but this has nothing to do with any of that.
	I transitioned out of commercial litigation into full-time.
	Let's just get this done.
	Let's just get this done.
	Okay.
	Is that a good diaper change?
	Okay, good.
	I am a retired commercial litigator turned YouTuber, viral videographer, content creator.
	I've always had questions that I wanted to ask you.
	I went to New York back in November and I went to see you, but when I got to your office, I read the sign and I respected the sign.
	I didn't want to disturb you then.
	I don't want to disturb you now.
	I don't need to meet with you.
	I mean, I want to meet with you, but no, it's not about meeting with you.
	There's a kid at the front door.
	I have just had questions that I've been dying to ask you, so I'm going to put it to you in a video format and hope that you answer them.
	This is the kid that you were missing from the earlier part and the neighbor's kids.
	Neighbor.
	So there's a lot of things I've picked up over the years and I've learned a lot from your vlogs, but I've had a bunch of questions I've always wanted to ask you, so I'm going to start now and maybe you can answer these in your next vlog.
	And maybe we will go get some more chocolate sticks.
	Question number one.
	How many hours a night do you sleep seriously?
	How does the video editing process work?
	Yes?
	You better be saying cheese because you're not getting any more juice.
	For people who are just starting, how do you go about generating any sort of revenue from your videos?
	I know there's affiliated marketing, sponsorships, and all sorts of things, but I'm just wondering how you went about it at the beginning before your videos started garnering millions and millions of views.
	Can you stop that, please?
	What were the ways that you actually used your video, your creativity, to generate revenue?
	Anyone have any questions?
	We have a question here.
	How do you sleep if you edit so much?
	Good question.
	But I asked that one already.
	Yeah, but you didn't...
	After you've uploaded a video, is there anything you do to promote it to help it go viral or get traction, or do you just upload it and let your magic work its course?
	Don't look at me like I'm crazy.
	I thought you were in our room.
	Music.
	How do you get your music...
	And how do you monetize your videos?
	Do people give you the music?
	I guess at this point of your career, anyone would love to give you their music so they'd be featured in your videos, but back in the day, did you just use copyright-free music?
	If people give you music, do you have some sort of royalty sharing with them if they give you good music for your videos?
	One more question here.
	In your video, you said that you spent a lot of time with your family and your wife.
	How do you, if you make a video every day and you edit a video every day, How is what you're saying, too?
	You asked that in a very accusatory...
	A very accusatory...
	Oh, hey!
	Oh, hi, man!
	Oh, hi, man!
	Casey, do you have a question for Casey?
	What does Candice say and how does she feel about all your videos?
	What's your favorite food?
	What's your favorite food?
	How do you get such awesome drone footage and how do you fly your drone?
	Do you ask for permission?
	Do you take chances?
	Do you get the people in your videos to sign releases or do you ask them for permission or do you blur their faces out or not include their faces if you didn't get permission?
	Any more questions?
	Can I play with your daughter?
	Casey?
	Can my daughter have a play date with your daughter?
	Next time we're in New York!
	Oh hey, how you doing?
	Dogs.
	How did you get so many subscribers?
	Oh, he answered that question already.
	He did?
	Oh, yeah.
	How?
	Just keep uploading.
	Peace out.
	What are your views on MCN, multi-channel network thingies?
	Whether or not anyone should use them in order to grow their channel or just try to grow their channel themselves.
	You ready for bed?
	Yeah.
	Do you do any storyboarding for your daily vlogs or do you just go with whatever happens during the day or do you plan specific events out with the intent of including them in a vlog?
	You tired?
	No, I want to watch a video.
	You want to watch a video?
	You want to watch a Casey Neistat video?

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