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April 20, 2022 - Viva & Barnes

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Sidebar with Whistleblower Journalist Ivory Hecker - Viva & Barnes LIVE!

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	Space is exciting.
	It spurs our imaginations.
	And it forces us to ask big questions.
	Space, it affects us all.
	And it connects us all.
	Can we appreciate that sound bite?
	Someone wrote that speech, either Kamala Harris or her speechwriters, and they said, space.
	It affects us all and connects us all.
	I mean, that is like when Johnny Cochran came up with the, if the glove don't fit, you must acquit.
	Someone somewhere, lightning bolts were going off in their heads.
	We've got her Nobel Peace Prize moment.
	Space.
	It affects us all and it connects us all.
	Other than the fact that I believe that that is scientifically inaccurate in that the vast majority of space is in fact, if not outright void, at the very least, close to a void.
	It's tough to see how one can be connected through the void unless it's in that I heart Huckabee sense of everything's connected, everything in the cosmos, which I kind of do agree with.
	But, I mean, you cannot pair that soundbite.
	With the soundbite from Billy Madison, what you just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard.
	At no point in your rambling, incoherent response did you mention anything?
	It came close to a rational thought.
	I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
	All right, so with that said, people, we're going to go from the absolute inane to the absolute awesome.
	Barnes is not going to be here today.
	No rumors being spread.
	Everything is good.
	I think something...
	Quasi-urgent came up, but not in a bad sense.
	So it's good in a way because I won't have to wear headphones to hold back the fro.
	Ivory Hecker.
	For those of you who don't know who Ivory is, you might have heard.
	Well, I should say this.
	If you don't know who Ivory Hecker is, it's because you don't watch Project Veritas.
	I would say you don't watch the news and you don't watch her on her channel, which is...
	On YouTube, on Rumble, I have to make sure.
	I think there is something on Locals as well, and if there is not, we're going to have to fix that.
	I think there should be something.
	I'm going to bring this chat up.
	I don't know that we have not heard any news from Gonzalo Lira.
	Some people are looking into it, but it's been a few days now with no news, and this is not to confirm or spread rumors.
	I'm just bringing up the chat.
	Thank you for the chat, and then I'll do the standard disclaimer.
	YouTube takes 30% to Super Chats.
	If you don't like that, we are simultaneously broad streaming on Rumble.
	I forgot to notify them.
	Rumble has these things called Rumble Rants.
	They take 20%.
	Better for the company, better for the creator, yada, yada.
	You all know this.
	No legal advice.
	No medical advice.
	No election fortification advice.
	And we might be touching on questions that might incidentally or, you know, incidentally involve big pharma.
	The influence that marketing dollars has on news agencies' content.
	But for anybody who doesn't know who Ivory Hecker is, I'm just going to bring up one thing which I think everybody must see beforehand.
	Before we get started, if you're going to quit your job, there's one way to do it.
	Well, there's multiple ways to do it.
	There's good ways and there's bad ways.
	And this is among...
	The best ways.
	Ivory Hecker is live in Montgomery County to take a look at that aspect.
	Thanks, guys.
	That's right.
	Before we get to that story, I want to let you, the viewers, know that Fox Corp has been muzzling me to keep certain information from you, the viewers.
	And from what I'm gathering, I am not the only reporter being subjected to this.
	I am going to be releasing some recordings about what goes on behind the scenes at Fox because it applies to you, the viewers.
	I found a nonprofit journalism group called Project Veritas.
	It's going to put that out.
	So that is how Ivory announced her next move, which was after she had gone to speak with Project Veritas.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay, I'm going to close this screen because I hear it now.
	All right, so with that said, people, share the link around if we haven't already done it.
	Ivory is here.
	We have about 55 minutes left.
	We're going to bring Ivory in, and we're going to get some details.
	Ivory, how goes the battle?
	It's going well.
	Thanks for having me.
	Well, okay, this has been on my wish list for a long time, since I saw it, actually, and it's amazing that it's finally happening.
	Ivory, elevator pitch for anybody who doesn't know who you are.
	We're going to skim over what would otherwise be like a half an hour of a stream as to what got you to where you are, but we're going to get into the juice after that.
	But elevator pitch for those who may not know who you are.
	Well, I spent nine years in corporate news, most recently at Fox Corp at their station in Houston.
	Went to one of the top journalism schools, Syracuse.
	I'm passionate about journalism.
	And sadly, we are in a very interesting time in our history where...
	You go to J school where you get taught these ideals and the news corporations say, ah, just kidding.
	You're not going to do that.
	Anyway, so that's what I learned, which is why I broke away because Fox gave me an ultimatum during the pandemic of basically do propaganda, do the narrative, or get fired.
	And I said, well, I'd rather get fired.
	All right, now I'll do it only very, very briefly.
	Where are you from?
	What did your parents do?
	How many siblings?
	And what did you study before you made it into journalism school?
	Oh, so I'm from Wisconsin.
	And I was born to a dad who's a logger.
	My logging's big in Wisconsin.
	My mom was a stay-at-home mom.
	Now she's a life coach.
	And I have 12 siblings.
	There's 12 of us all together.
	12 siblings.
	All from the same parents?
	Yeah.
	And people are always like, does that mean you're Mormon or Catholic?
	And I'm like, no.
	My parents are just like back-to-nature hippies who just wanted to go with the flow.
	So where do you line up in those 12?
	Second oldest.
	My goodness.
	To be the second oldest among...
	10 younger.
	I mean, that's like, that's effectively like being the oldest.
	I mean, that gives you immense power.
	Are there, I mean, from my own curiosity, are there twins or triplets in that?
	Or was it 12 individual births?
	Individual births.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's amazing.
	For everyone in the chat who says, Viva, why do you ask these questions?
	Someone who is one of 12 children, that's phenomenally interesting.
	I mean, politically speaking, do you guys all still speak?
	Are you in a lot, are you?
	Politically aligned?
	Do you not talk politics?
	We're all politically aligned.
	Okay, that's very interesting.
	Yeah, we get along great.
	That's very fortunate.
	Okay, cool.
	And so you said you went to Syracuse Journalism School.
	Mm-hmm.
	That's right.
	For those who don't know, in the ideal sense, what do they teach you in journalism school?
	How many years is it?
	How many programs?
	What courses?
	And then we'll get into what they taught you versus what the reality was like.
	Well, I got a bachelor's degree there at Newhouse.
	Some people just go there to get a master's for like a year, but I did the four-year course.
	And they teach you all aspects.
	I mean, I did broadcast journalism, so they teach you all aspects of TV news.
	So I learned how to film, edit, how to write.
	And how to speak and produce a show, actually.
	All of it.
	And the ethics as well as the communications law.
	And they teach you about the purpose of journalism.
	I had a great experience and I understand that not all journalism schools are like mine and that over the years things have.
	Shifted, perhaps.
	I understand.
	I'm hearing from some Jays school students that my favorite journalism school textbook is now not allowed in their schools, which is the elements of journalism.
	Anyway, and that teaches you the primary purpose of journalism is to provide people with the information they need to be free and self-governing.
	That your first obligation is to the truth.
	Your first loyalty is to the citizen.
	And so Fox deviated from that a lot in 2020.
	And it was out of left field and I wanted answers as to why.
	And my bosses admitted to me.
	On recording that this was coming down from the CEO.
	So that's when I was like, it was just very sad to me because that was my dream company.
	We're going to flesh that out in great detail.
	So journalism school, you get the technical side, how to edit, how to create content, how to video, how to present yourself, how to speak.
	And then you get the ethics side of it, which people in the chat find shocking that there is an ethics in journalism in theory.
	And I like what you defined.
	Define journalism one more time.
	Well, the primary purpose of journalism is to provide people with the information they need to be free and self-governing.
	That's a quote from Jay School.
	Okay.
	So this is what you learn in theory.
	You learn about best practices, I presume, double-checking your sources.
	Verification.
	Okay.
	And this was three years if it's a BA or if it's a bachelor degree?
	That was four years.
	Four years.
	So you graduate.
	You get out of journalism school at Syracuse.
	Where do you get your first job?
	Columbia, South Carolina.
	It was at a Fox affiliate, so not actually owned.
	And this is where viewers get really confused because it's time to work for Fox Corp.
	But this was just...
	I was working for Barrington, and they had the Fox brand on there, but they weren't actually Fox.
	So that was my first job.
	And in a smaller city, making very little money, it's tough when you start out.
	And could you explain?
	I mean, the Fox affiliate is something that even I still get confused with.
	It's Fox branding, but it's not Fox Corp.
	Under what degree of supervision do they operate from the Fox Corp themselves if they bear the Fox logo?
	There's no supervision.
	They pay money to have that brand, to have that Fox name brand, but they're actually not a part of the company.
	When you're an affiliate, there can be some sharing of footage.
	I remember there was an election fiasco where it took way too long to count the votes while I was working there back like a decade ago and Fox News in New York was interested in my footage at that time.
	So we did some footage sharing, but there was no supervision because it...
	It was just like a franchise thing.
	And then what is the life like if you're in a smaller town?
	And I don't say this to be demeaning or degrading.
	There's no but.
	You're in a smaller town working for an affiliate of Fox News.
	What is the type of story that you go after?
	What's the workload?
	What's the stress?
	And what distinguishes a successful journalist in that context from an unsuccessful journalist?
	Well, you know, smaller cities, to be successful, you just need to actually, you know, know how to put together a story in a professional way, meet your deadline, and, you know, get it accurate, get the facts straight, and then not screw up while you're live on air.
	A lot of, you know, it's rough going when you're your first TV station, first time live on air.
	You're under deadline on a crime scene or an accident.
	Sometimes you blank out and you make a fool of yourself as a first-time TV reporter.
	Anyway, once you straighten all that out and know what you're doing in your first job, then you're ready to apply for a bigger job.
	This is how it works.
	In TV news is that people go through these ranks where they'll work in a small city with a very small paycheck for a matter of years and then they will apply elsewhere.
	I got out of there as quickly as possible.
	I only spent a year in Columbia, South Carolina, which I love South Carolina.
	Vacation vibes.
	But to work there and get paid $26,000 a year while working like $12,000.
	To 16-hour shifts is not okay.
	And this is, I mean, I'm just trying to say 26,000, small town.
	So, you know, that buys more.
	But this is not even that long ago.
	This is nine years ago?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Yeah, that was, yeah, 10, nine, 10 years ago.
	Aspiring journalist.
	That's what awaits when you get out of school.
	Now, is this like little leagues versus big leagues?
	Like you hope that a scout sees a compelling story that you...
	It's really similar to baseball, actually, where you have to be in the minor leagues and then move up to major leagues and then your salary increases immensely once you get to the bigger leagues.
	Yeah, and actually another news director scouted me out and sent me a Facebook message actually asking to hire me.
	And so that's how I was able to get out of there.
	But that's because I was putting my content out on YouTube.
	Saying, okay, this is how good of a reporter I am.
	Please, someone find me.
	And it worked.
	That's amazing.
	Ingenuity and what's the word when you are good at business?
	Business acumen?
	Ah, whatever.
	People don't appreciate self-marketing and just also exposure.
	You lay a bunch of lines out in the water and eventually something's going to bite in the good sense.
	So what was your progression then?
	So you go from Columbus, South Carolina.
	Columbia.
	Columbia, I'm sorry.
	To where after that?
	Were you always with Fox or Fox affiliates?
	No, then an NBC affiliate hired me, and that was Lexington, Kentucky, which was probably the best TV station in Kentucky.
	I mean, these guys were go-getters, and I learned so much about being an efficient, accurate, successful reporter there.
	It was crazy.
	And I learned how.
	How long were you with NBC for?
	So I was in Lexington, Kentucky for two years.
	And then NBC Minneapolis hired me, which was a separate company, Tegna.
	But because Minneapolis is a bigger city, it's a pretty big city, they actually had closer ties with NBC News.
	And so I was really closely associated with...
	With the big guys, NBC New York, then I actually went and toured NBC in New York and met Matt Lauer and all those guys.
	Okay, well, I don't know if I wanted to get into that much dirt unless you had any that you wanted to offer.
	But no, no, no.
	So first of all, when do you start noticing?
	Well, you know, you could tell right away that the culture in every newsroom is left-leaning, politically left-leaning.
	The only people who would speak their political views.
	We're leftists.
	And they assumed everyone in the room was leftists.
	And if there was anyone who was not leftist, they would just hide in their closet and not share their views.
	Because if you shared any political views that were not leftist within your newsroom culture, you'd become a target.
	You could be demoted or fired.
	But it was just not professional to...
	Be blabbering your political views in the newsroom anyways.
	But I noticed that the leftists were the ones who were comfortable doing that.
	And so that's the environment of work itself.
	But do you notice it right from the beginning, coming from the top down in terms of the stories, the slant?
	If you produce a story, who would it be?
	Your producer would say yay or nay to your final product?
	Yeah, the producer...
	Yeah, your producer or your news director, it's a little different at every newsroom, but they would review your script.
	You have to go cover a story, write a script.
	The producer reviews your script, edits your script, and then you have to read that script word for word with all the edits your producer gave on air.
	So now that I'm free, I'm not used to just talking out of my mind.
	We weren't allowed to talk out of our minds in corporate news.
	The more you describe this, the more I realize I'm unemployable.
	I could not tolerate anybody editing or determining what I would have to say.
	And so that's the process.
	Like it or leave it.
	That's how it works in the industry.
	Before Fox News, before the Fox Experience, did you have stories that they said, thank you for the work, but we're not running it?
	We don't like the story itself?
	Well, no.
	They go through an assignment process at the beginning of each day where they assign you to a story.
	So there's never a situation where you just go out on your own and cover something and say, hey, I did all this work.
	Will you accept it?
	Right off the bat, you have to pitch it and then they give a yay or nay.
	Okay.
	So that's one level of triage already as to what is on the menu for potential subject matter.
	Okay.
	So NBC?
	How do you end up at Fox?
	And when you end up at Fox 26, is Fox 26 an affiliate or is that under Fox Corp?
	So that Fox 26 was not an affiliate.
	It's actually owned by Fox Corp.
	So that's when I was getting the Lachlan Murdoch emails all the time.
	So I got there because I had just finished my contract in Minneapolis and I wanted to...
	Seek a bigger job.
	And so my agent marketed me to TV stations around the country and I landed at Fox 26 Houston, which is, you know, being Fox owned, it was a great place to go because you can easily slide right up to the national level because it's all the same company.
	May I ask the crass question as to, without exact figures, but what's the benefit?
	Salary-wise of going from small town to Fox Corp itself?
	Oh, well, my income increased dramatically.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And cost of living?
	Just for my own curiosity.
	Oh, the cost of living went up dramatically, too.
	Let me just say, rent in South Carolina was like $200 a month.
	How is Fox in terms of covering expenses and living...
	What do they call them?
	Expenses and other type things.
	Are they stingy with them?
	Or is that one of the perks of working with Fox?
	They're pretty stingy.
	TV stations across the board are pretty stingy.
	They don't want to spend a lot on their staff.
	And I think it's because...
	We are in the 21st century where the media landscape is changing so much.
	People aren't turning on their TVs as much.
	And so it is hurting the advertising dollars.
	And constantly TV stations are downsizing and cutting budgets.
	So it was stingy.
	Okay, and actually that's the good segue into the meat of this before we get into some of the fruits later on.
	So Legacy Media, in the time that you had been there, Did you live through...
	Did you come in when it was already on the...
	Not the death throes, but rather on the downturn?
	Or did you notice it in real time?
	People are tuning away, going into YouTube.
	Advertising dollars are either decreasing or becoming less valuable.
	Did you notice it in real time or were you already in there on the downslide?
	Well, right off the bat, in college, they were...
	College journalism school, they were warning us that we're already in the shift because I was...
	I was in journalism school about 2008 to 2012.
	And it was like, you know, everyone's going online, you guys.
	People aren't turning on their TVs as much.
	So you need to make sure that you know how to do web stories and all this because it's not just going to be TV.
	So I had to learn how to write web scripts.
	And people don't realize that all the TV reporters, they're also writing web stories.
	Anyway, so...
	It was a big shift the entire time I was there.
	There was definitely these growing pains in TV news of newsroom bosses who have this old school history where online is not a thing.
	The corporation is now telling them to instruct their employees to post on social media, to write on the website, and the boss themselves isn't even sure what's best.
	So, it was interesting.
	That's very interesting.
	Okay, so, all right, now, let's get into the Fox experience, and the, like, you call it, I don't want to say corruption, you know, if anybody didn't see the Project Veritas expose a while, how long ago was it now, Ivory?
	It's been...
	About a year?
	Yeah, almost a year.
	Last June.
	Tabernush.
	I'm sure the last year has been amazing for you in ways that you could never have imagined at the time.
	So explain what goes on at Fox News that causes you to have this awakening and say, I can't do this anymore.
	You call it corruption, and I'm sure people within Fox are going to say, it's just business, and I'll call it corrupt business because I think I have an idea as to how it goes down.
	Explain, you know, explain what happens while you're working at Fox in terms of what actually caused you to speak out and go to James O 'Keefe.
	Well, it started in summer 2020 is when things got strange and, you know, well, there were just so many instances, but it started, HR first got called on me, I guess, when I was...
	I was assigned to cover Dr. Stella Emanuel, who went viral for the way that she treated patients for the illness.
	I know you're on YouTube.
	I'm going to use it.
	So anyway, not only did she go viral, but we also witnessed censorship on social media on an unprecedented level.
	So I covered that.
	So I actually went to her clinic and showed what All the other media outlets weren't showing.
	She does have a real clinic.
	There's patients in there that I talked to that said they corroborated what Stella was preaching in D.C. After I did that report, I just did my own little social media video saying, guys, today was a bit alarming.
	It was reminiscent of China as far as the censorship on social media.
	I think we should all take note of this.
	As a journalist, that's an infringement on free speech and free press.
	If we can't have freedom of thought, our own business is in threat.
	I was shocked because I had been taught.
	I went to journalism school where they talked about the importance of free press and free speech and talked about instances of censorship in history and how it's always bad.
	Censorship's always bad.
	In history, that's what I was taught in J school.
	So I was stunned when the bosses got on the phone with me for an extensive amount of time, three long phone calls the following day, talking about what a mistake I had made standing up for free speech and that I must not talk like that ever again.
	And I was shocked.
	I definitely pushed back and said, excuse me, that's the bread and butter of journalism.
	Anyway, so they put me...
	On a little social media suspension.
	I wasn't allowed to post for a few days.
	And I was like, okay, whatever.
	So we proceed.
	Two weeks later, they assigned me to this unit where they were, a hospital where they were treating patients for the pandemic.
	And I just, you know.
	Go and cover what the doctor's doing.
	Well, the doctor happens to be using the same sort of medicine that Dr. Stella Emanuel was using.
	Now, I didn't have a bias about these medicines.
	I'm not typically a medical reporter.
	Fox usually sends me to crime scenes.
	So I was like, I'm just going to report.
	I mean, Fox assigned me this.
	I'm going to report what's going on and leave it at that.
	So I was stunned.
	When Fox gets HR on the line and says, I'm messing up again, and that I'm violating their rules.
	And I was like, excuse me?
	Because I allowed the doctor to say what he actually uses?
	And so now I'm like, okay, you guys are coming up with this narrative and these rules on the fly, and I'm supposed to know what they are.
	I never even received a memo that I'm not allowed to say.
	Certain medicines.
	And if I did receive that memo, that's insanely creepy.
	And I understand that I'm now receiving that memo now.
	And why is that?
	And so then Fox straight up said that if I talked about these medicines again, that I'd be fired.
	And so basically I was on a ban of treatment in the pandemic.
	I couldn't cover treatment for the illness in the pandemic ever again.
	Because they decided that I was somehow biased because I allowed the doctor to say, Fox assigned me to that doctor.
	I had never met the doctor.
	Is this the part of one of your recordings where your higher up was saying...
	You should have known better than to ask questions given the most recent report that came up on HCQ.
	Yeah, and I'm talking about Dr. Joseph Verone at United Memorial Medical Center in Houston.
	Actually, the death rate at his hospital was remarkably lower than other hospitals around the nation and the world.
	But in the past month prior to that, there had been a study saying that The treatment was neither harmful nor helpful.
	And so suddenly we're supposed to silence him and not let our viewers know that he's still using that.
	Meanwhile, my inbox, you know, I get news tips all the time as a reporter.
	Inbox is being blown up by people all over saying that their doctor also gave them this treatment and that, you know, it worked for them.
	And I'm hearing all this, yet I'm seeing this study that says, It's neither harmful nor helpful.
	So what did I do?
	I reported the study and I also reported the facts on the ground.
	Now, Fox didn't want that.
	They wanted the study only, silence the facts on the ground.
	So I said, this is not journalism anymore.
	And you're going to fire me if I somehow...
	Land upon facts that are outside of your narrative, and you're not even telling me what your narrative is.
	It's such a sick mind game that they play in newsrooms.
	Like, ooh, we don't have a narrative.
	We believe in the truth.
	That's how they talk in the newsroom.
	But then when it comes down to brass tacks, they're like, yeah, you'll be fired if you say this.
	So they have this unspoken narrative.
	Okay.
	It's amazing.
	And the first incident that occurs, or the big one, is this report where you mentioned the study, which showed, you know, the study debunking the application of this medicine.
	You mentioned facts on the ground, the two interviews with the doctors, and then they, I guess the first question is, when did you start recording meetings and interactions with your higher-ups at Fox?
	So actually, right away when I covered Dr. Stella Emanuel and...
	Fox came from my throat over free speech.
	Because free speech is such a sacred facet of journalism, I started recording right away.
	I was so alarmed.
	And I was just like, okay, Fox has taken a hard turn in the wrong direction, and this could...
	I don't know what they're going to do next.
	If they're going to fire me for standing up for one of the key facets of journalism, if they do that, I'm getting this on recording.
	I feel like they're going to accuse me of something I didn't do.
	They were just coming out of such left field in late July of 2020 that I hit record right away.
	I was stunned.
	It was just unprecedented that they would say, You are not allowed to stand up for free speech as a journalist.
	So I just started recording every strange call from the bosses.
	I would just hit record, especially when HR gets involved.
	And then I got a lawyer because Fox actually defamed me.
	I'm seeing your comment here.
	Fox is the most guilty because they pretend to be on the side of conservatives.
	That's what I'm saying.
	They're a wolf in sheep's clothing.
	A lot of people don't realize that.
	And so, and it wasn't, and I knew this wasn't, I could just sniff out that this was not even coming from my direct boss in Houston.
	I was like, what's really going on here?
	Because she had a big journalism history.
	She and I had a great relationship.
	She was like my work mom, and suddenly she's coming after me at a left field, and the tone in her voice, I knew she didn't want to.
	And I was like, what's really going on?
	Well, she admitted it came from the higher ups at Fox.
	So, you know, Fox went on to defame me.
	They wrote an internal memo that they placed in my file.
	Now, it's very damaging when they play.
	You're a member of Fox Corp now.
	Which is an expansive corporation with endless possibilities for promotions.
	And I had already met with Fox News Channel in New York and did an initial interview about going national.
	And I'm like, okay, now my file, so all the corporate executives, if they're looking to hire me, move me up, they're going to look at that file and see that apparently Ivory does not follow orders.
	Has incredible bias about medicine.
	All these things they were writing about me that weren't true.
	I think for anyone who didn't see the audio or the Project Veritas, she said you failed as a journalist.
	Which, I mean, if that goes in your memo, your file as a journalist at Fox Corp, that you failed as a journalist or were reckless and didn't follow up and didn't...
	Well, they went beyond recklessness.
	In the memo they put in my file, they said basically that I...
	Violated orders that they had banned me from covering this topic of treatment in the pandemic and that I barged ahead and covered it anyways, which was blatantly false because they sent me to that hospital.
	I had never met that doctor.
	So they were making up lies about me and saying that this is how brazenly biased Ivory is that she's barging out and covering the stuff that we told her not to.
	It was defamation, internal defamation.
	And so I got a lawyer involved and it was the lawyer, summer of 2020, who said, start recording them on video because I was only doing audio.
	And he said, you need proof that these words are coming from their lips.
	Because if you want to win a defamation case.
	So anyway, that's what I did.
	And this is long before Project Veritas even got involved.
	Did you reach out to them or did they reach out to you?
	Well, I was figuring out what to do and multiple different friends said, go to Project Veritas.
	You have these recordings?
	And I was like, okay, maybe I should.
	So finally in November of that year, November 2020, election month, I reached out to them.
	Well, they didn't give back to me.
	I think their inbox was full of election tips.
	And so...
	I was like, whatever.
	The thing is, I was locked into a really tough contract, as all corporate news people are.
	The contracts are one-sided and very controlling.
	And so I knew the contract was set up for Fox to absolutely destroy my life if I told the truth about them.
	So I was like, how do I get out?
	I can't even leave.
	The contract says I can't even quit.
	So anyway, I was trapped.
	In this company.
	But every day I was pondering how to get out.
	And then Project Veritas actually reached out to me on Twitter randomly in January of 2021.
	And they just somehow came across my profile and saw that I was a blue check corporate news girl.
	And they're like, hey, if you witness corruption in your newsroom, let us know.
	And I was like, well, I've witnessed some of that.
	That's phenomenal.
	How much recording did you have?
	You shared it all with James and Project Veritas, I presume, and they took what were the best parts of it?
	Yeah, I had hours at hours' worth.
	And so I continued recording with them.
	They actually equipped me with undercover cameras and stuff to get better recordings.
	The thing is, it was a pandemic, and Fox Corp, coming down from Lachlan Murdoch, had...
	Okay, I mean, I need to get the day you make the announcement, the strategizing as to how you make the announcement, and then we're going to get into the corruption at Fox News, why they might have this vested interest, whether it's controlling a narrative, whether it's protecting their advertising dollars, which, to my dismay, every time I get stuck on a treadmill and Fox News is playing in the background, I'm shocked as to how much...
	Pharmaceutical advertising there is, and I suspect that has something to do with it, but we'll get there.
	How do you strategize?
	How do you work with James O 'Keefe to decide how and when you're going to release this information?
	Because you know damn well that the minute it goes, you're cut off, and they'll try to destroy you in as much as they can, but you're out alone in the desert.
	As of the moment you make the announcement, how did you strategize and come up with the way to do it?
	Well, yeah, I knew they'd probably...
	Try to hurt me when I left them and told the truth.
	The main thing is just telling the truth about them.
	Which I just felt such a duty to do that because everything that was going down involved the viewers.
	If it was like some internal dispute of me and my boss not liking each other or something, that's a private matter.
	But this directly involved the content of the news and Fox trying to manipulate the narrative.
	So I was like, it's the...
	It's the viewer's right to know why I'm leaving.
	I want out because I can't be controlled like this in a deceptive way for the viewers.
	And the viewers need to know that these are deceptive narratives.
	So anyway, I just knew that I had to tell them somehow.
	And I was like, well, Project Veritas is a pretty big platform to make that happen.
	I was just going to turn over the recordings and I thought Project Veracast would just put some of the recordings on their YouTube and people would know and I'd go on my way.
	But then I sat down, it was actually last April, I sat down for dinner with James and some of his staff and they said, we think you should call out Fox Live on air.
	And I was just like...
	I don't think that's necessary.
	I don't think that's why would I do that?
	And they're like, well, I would reach more people.
	I was like, that's true.
	But I just I don't know about all that.
	And so I resisted for, you know, over a month.
	And finally, you know, I was racking my brain.
	I was talking to lawyers and stuff about how to get out of this contract.
	And I realized.
	There was no good way to get out of contract and if I could just call out Fox Live on Air.
	When you're dealing with a corrupt organization that is fine with hurting you, your only protection could be the masses.
	So if I called it out live on air and had...
	Got everyone involved.
	Got the viewers involved.
	That was my best protection in addition to alerting more people about what's really going on.
	So it just dawned on me shortly before I did it that that was actually the best move.
	And while it was a nerve-wracking move to call them out live on air, that it was actually going to alert more people about the compromised news biz.
	Actually protect me from Fox because Fox, they're going to want to run and hide in a hole after I do that rather than persecute me.
	You get fired the same day, I presume, like within an hour.
	Do you know what happens internally at Fox?
	Did anyone tell you what happened internally once you aired that?
	Do you have any idea?
	So after I called them out live on air, it was just...
	Nothing.
	One of the producers actually accidentally called me and was like, oh, I'm sorry, and hung up.
	And then my boss called me a couple hours later and asked, why did I do this?
	And I was like, you know exactly why, because she and I had had countless heated conversations about the propaganda.
	And so she's like, okay, okay, I get it.
	Calls me back at like 11 p.m.
	Because I went live at 5 p.m.
	11 p.m., she finally calls me back and says, you're suspended.
	It wasn't until the next day that a third party who's not associated with the company dropped a line to me that Fox was firing me, which I was like, this is very strange.
	Why isn't Fox telling me directly?
	And then a week later, I received snail mail that said I was fired.
	I can hypothesize as to why it was a third party that called you and told you in that they presume you're recording the conversation again and they don't want to be saying anything.
	If they have a third party do it, that guy is not authorized to say anything on behalf of Fox except for you're fired.
	It's funny in a sad way in that you're burning bridges in a sense and then also laying a foundation for an even bigger bridge in the long run.
	You get fired.
	Did they sue you?
	I mean, I actually don't know what happened after that.
	Did they sue you?
	Did you sue them?
	Is there any litigation pending?
	None of us have sued each other so far, but Fox did defame me multiple times now.
	As soon as they fired me, as soon as they parted ways with me, they actually wrote up a defamatory statement that they sent out to all of the media.
	Talking about how I was a disgruntled former employee who was creating deceptive narratives just because I was a disgruntled former employee.
	That's an obvious lie because I wasn't a former employee when they were employing me on air, as I called them up.
	It's not a former employee.
	I was disgruntled about the propaganda.
	I was disgruntled.
	That part was right.
	Okay, so let's get into the idea of, you know, what narrative are they pushing?
	When you say that you're higher up, you got the impression that she didn't want to be saying it.
	It came from even higher up from her.
	I mean, is it marketing or is it politics?
	Because anybody who's watched Fox News and we talk about corruption and like the insidious ways in which it manifests that are not like, here's a briefcase of 50,000 bucks.
	Go, you know, go do something illegal.
	It's more business.
	It's like we're advertising.
	Whichever one of the 50 pharma companies that are advertising, and they're all owned by narrowed down a handful of companies, who may themselves be one of the companies involved in this particular pandemic, whether it's brought to you by Pfizer or Moderna, whatever.
	You have these companies spending substantial ad dollars propping up, arguably controlling the narrative within the mainstream of mainstream news, and then they control what you can and cannot say.
	Call it whatever you want, but is that how it was working, or was it just purely political?
	Fox had it in for Trump as well, so they were going to shoot down anything that could be moderately beneficial to Trump.
	Well, obviously the bosses would never admit to what the real scheme was, so it's hard to tell, but Ed Henry's lawsuit the following summer shed light on the situation because Ed Henry talked in his lawsuit.
	against Fox about how they had also muzzled him from asking certain questions.
	So I wasn't allowed to ask questions about treatment during the pandemic.
	Ed wasn't allowed to ask questions about when he was interviewing someone affiliated with the NFL in regards to kneeling for the anthem.
	And so he had questioned one of his bosses at Fox News.
	At that time.
	And she told him that Fox was so sick and tired of being the target of all these leftists that Fox had decided, you know, we need to stop towing Trump's line.
	And so whatever Trump says, we're going to kind of do the opposite.
	And so if Trump was advocating against kneeling for the anthem, then Fox was going to run away from that topic entirely.
	And so if Trump was advocating for a certain treatment during the pandemic, Fox was going to run the opposite direction.
	And so it did seem that Trump was a part of that, a part of Fox's incentive because Fox was getting hit with all these lawsuits and things, especially after the election, that big Dominion lawsuit.
	Yeah, the narrative was controlled in regards to the election as well.
	But then, you know, when it came to getting the jab, it was a very controlled narrative as well.
	And it just, that's where it really puzzled me because it was one day that there was this one news day in spring of 2021 where it made national news that two people had gotten blood clots and survived.
	After Johnson& Johnson.
	And it's news everywhere.
	I was assigned all day to cover that.
	And everyone was covering it.
	And I was like, why is this?
	And my boss was very puzzled too.
	Why is that even news that two people out of everyone else?
	Well, it appears that that was to create a narrative that the shots were so perfect that it was only two.
	Uh, two, two blood clots entirely.
	And when the fact is there were already a lot more side effects than that.
	And so I, I just told, I told the bosses, look, here's, here's the CDC website.
	It says that 3000 people have died so far.
	I think that if I'm covering side effects, I need to include that there's also been 3000 deaths.
	Fox says absolutely not.
	And that's what really puzzled me because normally Fox is all about citing CDC as gospel.
	And suddenly we can't even.
	We can't even mention what the CDC is saying.
	We need to make these new shots look even more perfect than that.
	Why is that?
	Well, we just found out this year, Blaze TV, of all people, did a Freedom of Information Act request from the White House and were able to retrieve documentation of all the funding that the White House sent to news outlets everywhere, including Fox.
	In regards to promoting this new shot.
	So the news outlets got a lot of money to promote these shots.
	A lot of advertising dollars.
	And I did see more and more commercial breaks on Fox in regards to that.
	And also, I mean, Fox was doing...
	PSA is having its own TV talent from local to national.
	They were giving Harris Faulkner scripts to say, you know, go get it in the arm.
	And so it was like a huge bias in regards to these things that people weren't trusting.
	I was like, what's the incentive?
	What is the incentive to be so biased in regards to this thing that the viewers really want the truth over?
	And when you find out that the White House had just poured money into every news outlet to promote that, then you kind of have to think that that must have something to do with it.
	And I'm bringing this up, Ivory, just so that the YouTube overlords understand.
	I'm just pulling this up.
	This is from the FDA website itself.
	It's from spring 2021, talking about the issues.
	And no medical advice, no legal advice.
	I'm just pulling up an FDA article.
	And this is where, like...
	I've talked about it in Canada as to how the government buys off media loyalty.
	They can do it with the carrot and the stick or sometimes a little bit of both at the same time.
	The stick to beat you when you've been bad and the carrot to lure you to make it more alluring.
	Outright bailouts and then advertising dollars to tow the government message.
	And if you don't do it, like some radio stations out in Quebec City...
	The government will say, well, we're not going to spend our ad dollars on your station.
	Then, you know, the announcers or whoever it is that's responsible for the government pulling their COVID ad dollars get sanctioned so you can control a narrative.
	And it's not corruption.
	It's just corruption.
	It's just good business.
	And this, I mean, this is what it reeks of at Fox News.
	You get these companies who have now been immunized by the government to sell their product, to market their product, and they market it through Fox News.
	And if you dare say anything that could cause anyone to be weary of the product or the company, then they say, we're going to pull our ad dollars.
	And good luck, Fox News.
	You've been flailing already, cutting corners, and now you're going to lose your major sponsors.
	I mean, am I wrong or is that pretty much exactly how it works if you have the experience to have made that observation?
	Yeah, I think that's true.
	And, you know, I look at...
	I look at it through the journalism lens and say that it is corruption.
	In the business sense, it's not corruption.
	But in the journalism sense, it is because in journalism, your first loyalty is supposed to be to the viewers.
	And when you compromise the truth for ad revenue, then you have turned corrupt in the journalism sense.
	And it's so interesting because my journalism school textbooks warned about all this.
	The struggle amongst the corporate overlords for profit versus the journalists under them seeking truth.
	It's always been an issue.
	Just so there's no confusion in the chat, I think it's corruption by definition.
	There's a difference between...
	Illegal corruption, bribery and extortion.
	And then there's just a corrupt system.
	And the corrupt system means it's not fulfilling its essential goal.
	It's been corrupted like a file on your computer.
	This is corruption by definition.
	Par excellence, it's the most insidious form of corruption because it's hard to detect.
	And it's always got the veil of plausible deniability.
	We're not telling you what to say.
	Don't talk about that.
	Go cover another story.
	And if you do cover the story, Ivory, we're going to make your life such a living hell that we'll either fire you or you're going to quit because it's going to be so miserable.
	Have your independence as a journalist subjugated to the narrative of the outlet.
	So you make the announcement, you get fired.
	If it's not immediately, it's the next day.
	What happens to you after that?
	Is it a net positive or is it a net loss in terms of where you found yourself close to a year later?
	Oh, it's been a net positive for sure.
	There's been so much support.
	I mean, viewers flock to me from all over the world because people aren't dumb.
	They know when they're being deceived by a news outlet and they've been watching news deception for so long to finally see a news...
	We have been deceptive behind the scenes.
	It was like, thank you for a lot of people.
	And so they turned to me and said, hey, we might actually trust Ivory's coverage a little bit more because she's keeping it real about this.
	And so people have been very supportive.
	Viewers have been very supportive.
	And I've been venturing out doing some independent journalism ever since then.
	Independent journalism as well as a lot of news commentary on YouTube.
	YouTube doesn't like independent journalism too much.
	I have to put that over on my separate website.
	And I'm going to post these and pin these comments to the pinned comment.
	We have a few minutes left.
	Where are you found now?
	You're on YouTube.
	You're on Rumble.
	Are you also on Locals?
	No, I have my uncensored website, ivoryhecker.com.
	It's a little $4.99 subscription to access all my content.
	It's kind of...
	I don't know.
	It's kind of set up like Netflix.
	You can bring it up on your TV and watch all my TV reports on there.
	It's also a news app now.
	Just search Ivory Hecker on your iPhone.
	Sadly, Android is not allowing my independent journalism app.
	Android's pretty strict.
	Yeah, it's going pretty well so far.
	I mean, YouTube has given me some strikes for facts outside the narrative.
	Because here's the thing, now that I'm independent, I feel it's my duty to zone in on those shadowy areas where the light's not being shed to look at the facts outside the narrative.
	So I focus a lot of my journalism attention as well as news commentary attention on those areas and those areas as it turns out.
	I'm finding that the social media corporations and the news corporations are all in agreement on what to censor, which I think is very creepy because now that I can cover what Fox didn't want me to cover, instead of Fox censoring me and muzzling me, it's YouTube censoring me.
	So I realize that Fox, YouTube, NBC, everybody is on the same page on censorship, still trying to get to the bottom of who is incentivizing them to all collab like that.
	It is fascinating.
	For those of us who have lived through, basically started a little bit pre-pandemic, pandemic elections, now the war in Ukraine, there are certain things you can and cannot say, if only through soft censorship, say the things that, you know, counter-narrative or whatever, and it's the soft censorship of demonetization, or interview the wrong doctors like we've seen with Alison Morrow, and I suspect those are where you got your strikes as well, or your issues with YouTube.
	Interview the wrong doctor, talk about the wrong medication, and you'll get the medical advice strike there.
	I've been watching some of your content just to get a feel for it, but I'm sure you've been branded now on Wikipedia and on the interwebs as being far-right-ish in what you're covering.
	Have you noticed that, or has it not happened yet?
	I don't think anyone's made a Wikipedia page about me, and I don't really care to have one.
	I haven't seen anything far right.
	It was really funny because Fox is known to be right wing.
	It was just so interesting to watch people try to figure out where I'm coming from.
	I was making people think for themselves, wait, if she's calling out Fox, does that mean she's a leftist?
	Or is she even more far right than Fox is?
	What's going on?
	How about you guys think for yourselves and realize that I'm just trying to get to the truth.
	I presume you are now finding the freedom.
	To employ everything you actually learned, everything of value that you actually learned at University of Syracuse?
	Yeah, I am.
	Yeah, I have to, you know, it's all up to me to make sure that I'm verifying and getting everything right.
	And I don't have a whole new staff to help me now, so, you know, it's...
	Well, it's the stress and the freedom of doing it on your own, having no one to blame, but having no one to blame.
	So I saw your interview with...
	With Lara Logan.
	I didn't finish it yet.
	I was watching it at one and a half.
	I mean, it's fascinating.
	I've seen a few of your other interviews.
	Same format.
	I think it's what journalism is now, is becoming.
	Do you have...
	I mean, I'm going to ask the obvious...
	It's a tough question.
	Do you have any regrets?
	Or if you had to do it differently, what might you have done differently in the manner in which you launched yourself into this new sphere?
	Oh, I don't...
	I think I have regrets about everything I've done.
	I just feel it was the right thing to do.
	In the big expose that Project Veritas put out, I just wish there were a few more of the key soundbites.
	I had soundbites of Fox planning propaganda about how to convince parents to give their kids the shot and things like that about the blatant propaganda.
	If we could have fit more of that and people could have understood more.
	Because I think a lot of the corporate news spun it as like, oh, Ivory had this big ex-abose that actually wasn't much of anything after all.
	There was just so much going on behind the scenes that you couldn't fit it all in.
	Let me see here.
	Ivory's original reporting that she quit over was quite eye-opening.
	The main stories that you found offensive that were being censored was...
	Talking about censoring Bitcoin because certain demographics would not be interested in it because apparently your producer or the higher-up said African-Americans are not interested in Bitcoin, so cover something else.
	You know, I don't find that politically offensive.
	I find that maybe racially offensive in that it's built on some pretty awful stereotypes.
	And at some point, you know, also the world needs to be...
	I'm not so sure about Bitcoin, but bottom line, that's predicated on some pretty offensive stereotypes, which is offensive in and of itself.
	But the medical narrative or what you were being told and accused of being a bad reporter for discussing things or interviewing certain people and including the information, I mean, I guess that's eye-opening and soul-crushing to some extent.
	Do you keep in touch with anybody at Fox News?
	Do you have contacts on the inside that are loyal, that you can rely on for information or to collaborate with unofficially?
	Yeah, I have people who have my back at Fox.
	Actually, one of my former co-workers came on my YouTube with me.
	She works in the promotions department, but she wanted to co-host one of my podcasts.
	I was like, absolutely.
	So there's people who have my back there, and I have no hard feelings towards the staffers.
	Their bosses, the bosses who are controlling all of the people in the newsroom is what I'm calling out.
	I don't feel that these people in the newsrooms are bad people.
	And I still love my former boss.
	Of course, she would never talk to me again.
	But I just wish she had enough backbone to stand up to the corruption because she knew that wasn't right, what her bosses were telling her to do.
	She didn't want to lose everything she'd worked for, so she went with it.
	And I just wish more people would have some backbone and stand up for the truth, stand against the narrative.
	It's the same system, mutatis mutatis, that when the government buys off the media, when it gets everyone dependent on the government dole, everybody is indebted in the sense that nobody can say no because their lives depend on it.
	And the same thing within these corporate structures.
	Nobody can say no.
	Nobody can stand up because...
	The powers that be will force them out and then they are alone in the desert and not necessarily with the same skill set and the same integrity that you managed to leave with and in fact build in the manner in which you did it.
	So who do you have coming up?
	I know we have an hour so I'm going to respect your time frame here.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm working on a story right now involving the NFL for the same reason that Ed Henry couldn't ask certain questions NFL related.
	Fox was undergoing a major contract with the NFL, and it comes down to that money again.
	And so there's this NFL-related story that Fox would not let me cover.
	I'm working on it, but we're just verifying some things.
	It's a lot of work.
	It's investigative.
	And so hoping to bring that out soon.
	Okay.
	And have you noticed any blowback from your interview with Lara Logan?
	No.
	I mean...
	I don't think so.
	People who don't like me just don't pay attention to me.
	It's mainly just a lot of support.
	Daily Beast actually cited...
	They quoted part of my interview with Lara in doing a hit piece on Lara.
	What happened to Lara with Fox should be another red flag to people who don't think Fox is corrupt.
	Why would Fox get rid of Lara Logan?
	She's phenomenal.
	Because she said something that was outside the narrative, too.
	So we just got to be aware that Fox is playing both sides right now and helping a lot with this distraction game that the news does while not actually covering some of the most pertinent things that could be associated with our liberties.
	Fantastic.
	Ivory, I'll put the links up in the pinned comment afterwards.
	I warned Ivory.
	I'm going to continue with this stream and just cover a few stories afterwards that people have been asking questions on.
	But I'll put Ivory's links up in the pinned comment so everybody can find her on the social medias.
	You're on YouTube.
	You're on Rumble.
	You have your own website.
	Anything else that you forgot to mention or that you want to mention before we end up here?
	Oh yeah, go follow my YouTube.
	I dug into the Bing Liu murder, this researcher who was getting to the bottom of what was really going on with this pandemic.
	He mysteriously gets riddled with bullets.
	They called it not a marital dispute, but a relationship dispute?
	Yeah, it was a love triangle.
	Allegedly, while he was in the lab all day, he was also in a love triangle.
	Anyway, it's very interesting.
	I talked to police who are investigating that case.
	The case has not been closed.
	So I broke it down last week on my YouTube.
	You can find that and all my other news on my YouTube search, Ivory Hecker.
	Amazing.
	Ivory, I warned you in advance we wouldn't be able to do our proper goodbyes, but thank you very much.
	First of all, thank you for what you did.
	Thank you for what you're doing.
	It's amazing.
	People should know who you are and check you out and find you on the social medias and follow the stories.
	Bing Liu, I've heard of that story multiple times in different contexts.
	Some of the tangents I wouldn't necessarily go down, but I'm going to follow you and see what you find because I heard about the story.
	It had a bit of a fishy smell to the official narrative, but I'm going to be curious as to what an actual investigative journalist finds out about the story above and beyond.
	Oh, and I'm covering another mysterious death associated with the FBI today, actually.
	That'll be on my YouTube today, so stay tuned.
	If my interview subject doesn't back out, it's supposed to be a live interview.
	What time are you going live?
	4 p.m. Central Live.
	Fingers crossed he doesn't back out because it's scary talking about the FBI.
	For good reason.
	Ivory, thank you very much.
	Fantastic.
	We'll be in touch and we do it again anytime you want.
	Sounds wonderful.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	My pleasure.
	Talk to you soon.
	Okay, bye.
	Fantastic, people.
	That was fantastic.
	I've never been fired from a job.
	I quit a few jobs.
	Smoked meat packing at Lester's because the day I got my fingers stabbed with the little spikes that they used to roll the smoked meat into the balls, I was like, forget it.
	It was so terrible because I was washing all of the equipment at the end of the day and the spiky wheels were in the bottom of the soapy sink and I just like a noob reached down like this.
	Did I tell everybody?
	Did I tell you all that I stepped on a needle in a carpet?
	I stepped on a needle in a carpet with all of the force of my body and it went into my heel and I broke the needle in half.
	And yeah, this was just last week.
	Sticking my hands in that sink full of soapy water and then reaching in to grab the spikes that pull the meat down the thing, that was as shocking to my senses as stepping on a needle.
	And breaking it, and it was broken off in my heel, and I had to pull it out.
	Very painful.
	I'm going to talk about a few things before we end up the day, just because we're live and why not.
	Alex Jones, some fun stuff coming out of Canada.
	As far as I know, there is no news, which is not good news, on Gonzalo Lira disappearance or having not been heard from.
	So if anyone in the chat, aggregate knowledge of the internet, has any news or updates, I've been just Googling to see.
	I don't know of any.
	Superchat here says, "Interesting facts." She always says, "Circle back.
	An anagram of Saki is ask pi circles and pi." Oh, God.
	Okay.
	Pasha, that's good.
	That's good.
	But all numbers can be connected.
	83.4% of people know that.
	83.4.
	Add it together.
	15. Add those together.
	Six.
	Okay.
	Fox growing viewership needs to hear this.
	Thanks so much, Ivory.
	Right versus left is an illusion.
	Ivory is pointing out their common ground.
	I'm watching Fox now.
	It's almost unpalatable.
	Even people who historically have kind of liked Jesse Waters.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I've changed or maybe they've changed.
	I can't watch Jesse Waters.
	I can't watch Geraldo Rivera.
	I can't watch Judge Jeanine Piru.
	What's her last name?
	Can't watch Judge Jeanine anymore.
	I can't watch any of them.
	Tucker Carlson, I can watch.
	I mean, I think he's still one of the braver voices out there.
	Not perfect, but better.
	Thank you very much.
	If you intended a super chat with that and it posted by accident, don't put another super chat.
	Just put it in the bottom.
	Am I done talking yet?
	No.
	In fact, when I'm done talking, you'll know because I'm going to end the scream and say peace.
	We're not there yet.
	Okay, so, look.
	One story.
	I talked about the Alex Jones.
	Infowars, Planet...
	What is it called?
	Prison Planet TV and IW Health.
	Companies filed for bankruptcy.
	In the context of the defamation lawsuits, I noticed a lot of comments.
	In the comment section, Tim Pool just talked about it.
	It's a rumor.
	Alex Jones confirmed that it's unsubstantiated rumors.
	And I was like, no, that doesn't make sense because...
	If bankruptcy proceedings have been filed, it's not a rumor.
	If Alex Jones' attorney is confirming it, it's not a rumor, so there must be a misunderstanding.
	And it turns out there is a misunderstanding.
	I will keep talking.
	No one has ever accused me of not being able to keep talking.
	There is a misunderstanding in that, from what I understand, I haven't seen Alex Jones' segment of his show.
	What he's confirming is that he personally, and the main business of Infowars, did not file for bankruptcy protection.
	But I don't know what the corporate structure of these entities are, if they're affiliates, if they're related entities.
	I don't want to say subsidiaries.
	But nonetheless, these three non-essential, not non-essential, but non-central entities did in fact file for bankruptcy protection.
	Barnes talked about it briefly on Bourbon with Barnes on vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
	If you're not following us there, that's the best bang for the buck if you want to get...
	Tons of exclusive content that we can't always talk about here.
	Barnes is not at total liberty to discuss things because he used to represent Alex Jones.
	But my understanding, and I think this has been confirmed in the news now, is that these entities, they're not central to Alex Jones' business and they're not him personally.
	But they have, in fact, filed for bankruptcy protection.
	Which means liabilities exceed their...
	They owe more to creditors than they have in assets or income.
	So that's the semantic misunderstanding.
	Alex Jones says, I'm not filing for bankruptcy.
	That's a rumor.
	Infowars as the main news entity is not.
	That's a rumor.
	But these three affiliate entities, and I don't know how they're structured corporate-wise, have in fact filed for bankruptcy protection, which is...
	Shielding them from creditors taking lawsuits or liquidation while they restructure, and we'll see how it goes.
	Because there's plenty of legitimate reasons to assume that these incidental ancillary companies never had much of an income, get slapped in as defendants in a multi-million dollar defamation lawsuit, and they don't have the assets in the ordinary course of business to pay big creditors, let alone massive multi-million dollar potential.
	Litigious creditors, as the case may be with these lawsuits.
	So that's that.
	That's to clarify that.
	And it requires not an understanding of bankruptcy law, it just requires an understanding of bankruptcy law, I guess.
	The semantics and the mechanism.
	I'm going to go to my Twitter feed because that's the running diary of the madness of the day.
	Twitter, forward slash there.
	I'm not bringing up any more...
	Carla Harris or Justin Trudeau because I don't want people vomiting more than once in an afternoon.
	I've got to...
	I'll bring this up.
	That's risky.
	I'll bring this up.
	This is a tweet from a blue checkmark politician who's the leader of the Conservative Party of Quebec.
	And at least give me an excuse to translate and show you my French.
	My French prowess.
	Minimize this screen and bring this up.
	This is Eric Duhem, who I'd love to have on the channel for an interview, live stream.
	I'd love to have François Legault as well, but I think it's an unwritten rule of social media.
	After the 12th time you refer to someone as a supreme leader dictator, they automatically refuse to come on your channel.
	Eric Duhem says, It seems there might be some dilutive effects or some weaning effects of certain procedures and that people are therefore or
	becoming more reluctant to have the third or fourth doses.
	And then above and beyond.
	Did I get demoted in his?
	This, man, I tell you.
	I know I responded.
	There it is.
	I just posted an article, which is, again, not me making these statements.
	This was European Union and scientists making these.
	Bloomberg Law confirmed on January 11. European medicine agencies, EMA regulars, warned that frequent Fauci juices...
	Could adversely affect the human immune response.
	Who would have thunk?
	Who would have thunk?
	I remember this was conspiracy theory once upon a time, but no medical advice, just reading what Bloomberg is confirming.
	So, you know, that was just one story coming out of Quebec.
	If I can go back here.
	Oh, do you guys see?
	Oh, no, you don't see the article because I'm an idiot.
	I have to do this and then bring it here.
	There we go.
	This is the article.
	And I will just highlight so that the world can read on its own.
	And by the way, I was watching Johnny Depp's trial this morning.
	It's gossip.
	It is people peering into the lives, the dysfunctional lives of other people.
	In a way, it's kind of sad.
	In a way, it's kind of eye-opening.
	In a way, it is absolute voyeurism, but it's a trial and they should be public for...
	I say full transparency.
	One of the things I heard in the trial today was that Amber Heard, one of the things I heard is that Amber Heard enjoys, she discovered, I think, I forget how he said it.
	She discovered, or she grew a sniff for this wine called Vega Sicilia.
	I had to look it up, people.
	Apparently Amber Heard can polish off two of Vega Sicilia's.
	It's a very nice light wine in a night.
	It's an $831 bottle.
	Canadian, so that's much less American.
	$830 bottle of wine.
	I don't think I've ever had an $800 bottle of wine.
	I've had a much more expensive bottle of scotch once.
	But when it comes to wine, and maybe it's because I don't know, I think there's just a maximum level of goodness that can possibly be justified monetarily.
	And that is...
	I don't think it gets much better after $80, maybe $100 bottle of wine, unless there's some unique bottles out there.
	Bloomberg has too much money.
	Possibly.
	Depp helped incite riots.
	I'm not tuning in.
	I wanted to bring up...
	We had a new member here.
	We had a new member.
	His name is Robert, and I don't know if it's Paulson.
	Oh, come on.
	Where is it?
	It's below here.
	Looking for the green.
	I want to bring up the new member.
	YouTube has memberships.
	And...
	Oh, there we go.
	There we go.
	His name was Robert.
	And we'll only see if his last name is Paulson, based on the chat.
	Yeah, no, no.
	That was not the Quebec story that I wanted to share with you, people.
	That was one of the Quebec stories.
	Another story coming out of Canada.
	Share the screen, people.
	This is one of the moments where you say, trust the science, people.
	This is where you have to trust the science.
	And if you don't, or you question it, look for the meme with Jesse from Breaking Bad.
	Here it is.
	Science.
	This is, when science meets politics, it becomes political science.
	And I have the same problem that I did before.
	Gotta go here.
	Boom.
	CTV News.
	These are the new travel restrictions in Canada because it's science.
	Returning travelers must wear masks for two weeks despite new rules.
	What is this?
	March 22nd?
	It's mid-April now.
	Even though Ontario's mask mandate has lifted in most places, families who were abroad for March break will need to continue masking up to two weeks.
	This is not the right article.
	There was another one that came out a little later.
	But bottom line, people, coming into Canada now, travelers from abroad have to wear a mask for two weeks, outdoors and in public areas.
	And I think it's in outdoor public areas, despite the fact that most provinces no longer have those requirements.
	And it's not...
	It's the science.
	I mean, it makes total sense, as do all of these other capricious rules and regulations that have been seemingly pulled out of the backside of a fickle medical expert.
	It makes absolutely no sense, but these are the rules.
	Oh, man, oh, man.
	So that was one of the stories.
	Just outrageously, outrageous stuff.
	And the world seems to be turning a page.
	The world seems to be easing restrictions.
	But Canada is imposing restrictions which, as far as I'm concerned, are pure deterrence.
	They are intended to be deterrence to deter Canadians from leaving the country to see what freedom, what actual real life that is not a life of perpetual fear looks like.
	And to deter people from coming to Canada to see what an absolute prison Canada is.
	It was Passover weekend.
	We had family visit from the States.
	I mean, it's an amazing thing where people outside of Canada don't appreciate how bad it is in Canada.
	You hear things in the news, but you don't appreciate it until you come.
	And they're coming now, you know, they're not here during a curfew.
	They're not here during the Vax Pass, where 13-year-old kids were getting kicked off soccer fields because they were not fully vaccinated.
	And because it was science, it was science and not punitive people.
	It was science and not coercion.
	13-year-old kids who were not fully vaccinated could not try out and participate in high school soccer, high school sports.
	People coming now to Canada saying, my goodness, it's a little weird here.
	They were not here for the five-month curfew in Quebec.
	But they come down and say, my goodness, do you guys not know that the rest of the world is opening up?
	Do you guys not know that Florida, Texas, Sweden, there have been places that have not implemented these draconian measures and that certainly are still implementing them.
	They haven't turned into a zombie apocalypse of people getting infected and just devouring everybody's face.
	Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree on Jesse Waters becoming unwatchable.
	Can't figure out if it's his lame content or out-of-control hubris, probably both.
	So, yeah, my theory is that these measures are to deter Canadians from seeing the freedom that exists in actual free countries, and it's to deter people from coming to Canada to see the actual unconstitutional prison that Canada has become.
	But we celebrated our 40th anniversary of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and Justin Trudeau...
	Was quick to praise that wonderful, wonderful document.
	That groundbreaking document.
	But this is another phenomenon that I find very, very peculiar.
	Anna Cabrera just boarded a flight to Atlanta.
	I think I'll stick with my mask a little longer.
	I'd say about 50-50 on this flight.
	Everyone treating each other respectfully.
	Everyone should treat each other respectfully.
	That's how it should have been from the beginning.
	Because it's not science, and I'm not a scientist.
	I'm just a lawyer who knows the question that I would ask.
	If the mask works, if something works to protect you, then you don't need someone else to do it if what you're doing to protect you works to protect you.
	If what you're doing does not work to protect you, someone else doing it is also not going to further protect you.
	So I don't judge.
	And someone asked me this question.
	In response to this tweet, why do you care what she puts on her face?
	Let me see if I can find that.
	I said, why do you think anyone cares what you choose to wear on your face out of irrational fear?
	Anna Cabrera.
	Because I do consider it to be irrational fear if you're saying...
	So why do you think anyone cares?
	And someone says to me, why do you care what she wears?
	Are you against people having free will?
	And I'm 1000% not.
	And whether I think it's irrational, whether I think it's the product of two and a half years of fear porn, what anyone does to their own body is none of my business.
	What anyone chooses to do as a parent with their children, I might judge it, but it's not my decision.
	It's not my decision to live with the consequences.
	And it's effectively none of my business to the extent that it doesn't affect me.
	And that no one comes and says, well, I'm doing it, therefore you have to do it.
	But I said, there's a difference between what someone does privately and what they tweet about publicly.
	I don't care what people do privately, but I will comment on what they tweet about publicly.
	And I don't understand what the phenomenon is, because I've noticed, not just Anna Cabrera, I think we're going to see a couple more here.
	All right, here we've got another one.
	Valerie Jarrett, wearing my mask no matter what non-scientists tell me to do.
	I mean, when did this become a thing?
	Do what you want to do.
	Who are you trying to influence?
	And why are you trying to influence them?
	What level of fear are you continuing to try to infuse, instill in the general public?
	What level of virtue are you trying to signal to other people out there?
	Do you think you're a better person for doing this?
	Do you think you're trying to influence people for the right or for the wrong by doing this?
	And why am I just noticing now?
	I mean, it's got to be the Twitter algorithm.
	It's got to be the Twitter algorithm.
	They're basically saying these tweets are triggering responses.
	So let's...
	Let's know who to show them to, to respond to them.
	So I think Twitter just...
	I think I got played by Twitter.
	So we covered the Alex Jones story, which was the big one.
	I don't want to...
	You can go to my Twitter feed to see some of the stories.
	And now Gonzalo Lira is the one where we need an update.
	And we'll see where it's going to go.
	The world is...
	I'm going to just come back here and look at the chat for a bit.
	The world is a little dark and depressing.
	People relishing in the misery of others.
	The same people, by the way, relishing in the misery of others, accusing others of being indifferent to the suffering of many.
	It is the ultimate irony.
	The people who accuse other people of being insensitive to suffering in their own minds then justify wishing and celebrating the suffering that those they've accused of not caring about the suffering They wish it on them.
	And who was I listening to talk about the devastation in Ukraine and innocent civilians dying as a matter of Russian aggression and Ukrainian policy?
	I mean, it's, you know, the young are sent to fight wars for the old and the innocent are left in the crossfire to die while the people making the decisions To exacerbate in flame, they sit behind big fences, armed guards, in the opulent golden calf buildings of Washington.
	But the reveling in misery on social media, it really is enough to cause you to be very black-pilled about...
	I think the only silver lining is that it's a very vocal minority, and people tend to think, you know, it's like the edgy days of the interwebs.
	Anybody who doesn't remember, like, back in the early days of Twitter, YouTube, social media, it was cool to be edgy.
	You know, insensitively edgy.
	Make as mean jokes as you possibly could, because that's what the internet was for.
	I think we're sort of in the version 2.0 of that right now.
	We're in an era where the political permission slip to be inhumane and politically remorseless to your ideological adversaries is seen as cool.
	But it's not going to be very far in the future where these tweets, the people relishing in the suffering of their ideological adversaries, it's going to be as much of a cancelable offense in the future as some of those dirty jokes were.
	In the past, today.
	Yeah, so that's it.
	Principles are in short supply.
	It's worse than that.
	It's like people think they're principled by doing it.
	They're like, yeah, they deserved it.
	You know what?
	I'll bring up the one video that I was going to skip over.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Because it highlights...
	One of the problems of the whole discussion.
	Madison Cawthorne's definition of a woman.
	Here is Madison Cawthorne's definition of a woman.
	X chromosomes, no tallywhacker.
	If tallywhacker means penis, or set aside the no tallywhacker part, because there may be certain exceptions to that rule, or new rules to that rule, but X chromosomes.
	And listen to the rationale of the individual who thinks he's proving a point here.
	And this gives me a chance to talk about biological essentialism.
	First of all, it's not true.
	People have all kinds of chromosomes and all kinds of bodies.
	Women who've had hysterectomies, people...
	Women who've had hysterectomies, this is the argument that is being wrongly employed, or I should say intellectually dishonestly or just fallaciously employed.
	If you operate on, let's...
	Gender is a social construct.
	Okay, so we don't need to talk about boy-girl.
	Or we don't need to talk about male-female, but we'll talk about sex, biology.
	Hold on, what am I thinking of?
	Man, woman, male, female.
	Gender versus sex.
	I forget now which is which.
	If we operate on the basis that gender is a social construct, you know, what the different genders prefer by way of color, toys, whatever, fine.
	Then let's just go straight to biology.
	Call it male-female, or just call it XX and XY.
	One of the arguments that is...
	Often and wrongly employed is, does having a uterus make you a woman?
	Well, I know women who have had their uteruses removed.
	Are they still women?
	The answer would be yes, because they were born with a uterus.
	Then you go to the even more anomaly of an example.
	Well, there are biological women who may have been born without uteruses.
	Like there's biological males that are born without testicles or without a penis because of some anomaly.
	Are they still...
	Biological males.
	Well, then the argument is going to be, yes, because these are anomalies and the underlying rule is go by chromosome.
	Then you get into the ultra, you know, exceedingly rare exceptions of neither XX nor XY chromosomes.
	But to say that a woman who's had a part of her body removed is no longer a woman, well, nobody's arguing that you have to have them at all times in perpetuity, but that there are certain elements that go with certain biological traits.
	But if we just reduce it to XX and XY, Having a hysterectomy removed doesn't make you less of a woman because you still have the XX chromosomes, which is going to be the operational definition.
	People born with certain conditions, but that's almost immaterial.
	People born with certain conditions.
	People born with certain conditions.
	It's ironic.
	That's where I'm going to end it there.
	It's ironic because the idea of suggesting that some of these issues are in people born with certain medical conditions, to even suggest that...
	It's oftentimes a cancelable suggestion.
	It's ironic that now, on the one hand, you've got the fallacious argument that a woman who has a hysterectomy or who has a uterus removed is still not a woman by the definition because a woman has a uterus?
	Okay.
	Bad argument, because if you go by chromosomes, or still a woman was born with a uterus and had it removed is different than not being born with a uterus, which might be one of the other medical conditions.
	But you have this individual saying, You have all types of bodies.
	Some of them are born with conditions being necessarily medical, biological conditions.
	My labor law professor at Université Laval, Réjean Breton, quite controversial for anybody who knows of him, he said something that I've always remembered.
	You do not build policy based on exceptions.
	You build policy based on the rule and you deal with exceptions accordingly.
	You don't make policy based on exceptions because then you govern the rule by the exception.
	And again, this is all going back to what of the discussion?
	To respect everybody and anybody based on their own personal decisions and preferences?
	Yes, categorically, no but.
	Period.
	Does it mean, however, basing policy of, you know...
	Women's sports.
	Biological women's sports and biological male sports.
	Does it mean governing that rule by the infinitesimally rare examples of exceptions?
	No, because that's where you get into the injustice of governing the rule by the exception.
	And you have this individual basically recognizing, which I thought would be a cancelable offense in general, that some of these issues are conditions in that they're biological or medical conditions or psychological conditions.
	Which have historically been recognized as such and treated as such.
	Because you don't discriminate against people based on medical, biological, or psychological conditions.
	You don't.
	No but.
	Period.
	It's an interesting argument.
	And I know people are going to say, you're trying to find consistency with people arguing who are not interested in consistency.
	They're interested in power.
	And they're actually interested in exploiting the inconsistency to acquire the power.
	I appreciate that argument, but I'm still going to stubbornly try to have the discussion and to express myself, sometimes sassily, sometimes not snarkily, but I still think underlying respectfully.
	Gender is a spectrum.
	Sex is a biology.
	I can accept that.
	I mean, I can accept that.
	And then the one example that we once talked about, seahorses, the only exception to the rule of animals where the male gives birth.
	Gives birth to the female.
	Wasn't actually an exception to the rule.
	It actually still abided by the rule.
	It just abided by another rule.
	That the fertilized eggs were implanted in the male who carries them and then gives birth, but still fertilized in the female.
	So it was interesting because it sounded like an exception, but it actually was not.
	It was still abided by the rule.
	There was just another rule that also applied.
	Okay, I saw a chat there.
	You found the solution, Viva.
	You need to put XX and XY on our passports.
	That's the most obvious solution.
	And for the anomalies, because I think there was XXY or XYY, there's anomalies.
	And from what I understood, imperceptible anomalies.
	They resulted or they could be diagnosed or the symptoms were other issues, which you wouldn't see on its face.
	And then you have the outright, very exceptional cases of...
	Individuals born with both genitalia, and I just heard Jean LaJoy on my head again, genitalia, born with both genitalia, and you have to actually determine the chromosomes to determine the biological sex.
	But the amazing thing is, all of these individual issues should not result in any discrimination, period.
	No but.
	It naturally follows as well that people born with the XX chromosomes, It's a question of mutual respect and finding accommodations for the exceptions, the exceptional rare circumstances without creating a rule out of those exceptionally rare circumstances that actually prejudices all of the XX.
	So that's it.
	That was my little...
	Do we want to watch any of the trial?
	I don't think I want to watch the trial.
	Alita from Legal Bites is live streaming the Johnny Depp in case any of you out there just can't get enough of the spying into the private lives of the opulent who drink $800, who have multiple $800 bottles of wine a night.
	Could you imagine also, like, what's the appreciation?
	How do you appreciate that anymore when...
	The opulence, when the exceedingly expensive luxury items become a bottle of Coke or a can of Coke.
	What am I talking about?
	A bottle of Coke.
	What is life at that point?
	I think it's actually...
	I'm watching the...
	Well, sorry.
	Alita LegalBytes is live streaming.
	Good stuff out there on her channel.
	Rakeda is live streaming.
	Good stuff on his channel.
	I'm sort of popping in between.
	Watching Depp is painful.
	It's sad.
	I mean, it's sad.
	You realize that, like, who was I just listening to that said, you can be wealthy without being famous.
	You can be famous without being wealthy.
	That's the worst combination.
	And you can be famous and wealthy.
	And it's a blessing and a curse.
	Watching Johnny Depp, you see why it can be a curse.
	These people, they don't care about the lives of the elite not following the trial.
	Well, bear with me through this, then, light giver.
	You see why it's sad and why it's tragic.
	You assume that people have opulent wealth.
	They must be happy.
	By and large, all people, through enough sample fields, I'm saying dysfunctional in a casual sense.
	By and large, people are equally dysfunctional across all spectrums of life.
	And the problem is, when you have more money to be more dysfunctional, It materializes itself in different ways.
	I mean, you don't have a lot of money.
	The dysfunction can materialize itself in a different way.
	Casey Neistat actually put out a good video.
	It was one of the better insights that he's had.
	He says, look, having money makes life easier in a certain sense in that you don't have to worry about rent.
	You don't have to worry about medicine.
	So on that level, it makes life easier.
	But in another sense, money does not give meaning.
	And a life without meaning, you can have all the money in the world, and it's going to be a pretty difficult struggle of an existence.
	You can have no money, but you can have meaning.
	You can have a very meaningful existence, and you make do driving a Honda instead of driving a Tesla or a Porsche.
	I don't know.
	Maybe Teslas aren't that expensive.
	But watching Johnny Depp, these are people who struggle.
	These are people who struggle, and then the The elements of success in their life are themselves the utmost of superficial evidence of success.
	And the struggle to remain relevant, the struggle to remain in the spotlight, because that is what many of them are after.
	The struggle is real, but it's a real struggle, and you see how it manifests.
	Self-destructive behavior, self-destructive relationships, and they have all the money in the world to really fuel those self-destructive habits.
	Lightgiver says they all have therapists.
	First of all, I don't judge people for having therapists.
	I mean, it's an interesting thing.
	Taking care of your body, you have a trainer.
	Taking care of your mind, people should have therapists.
	People should have therapists.
	Not necessarily because it's an indication that they have problems, but understanding how the brain works and understanding how your own brain works and how your own psyche works.
	I do not look judgmentally on anybody that has a therapist, but I'm sure they all have therapists because they need them.
	They need them to balance their wants, their desires with their weaknesses and their ability to squander everything, to ruin their lives in a heartbeat.
	But you know, therapists are not a bad thing.
	It has a stigma, but people should understand how the brain works.
	It would help them.
	If only, it might not help you better your own bad habits, but it'll help you understand your own bad habits and why you have them.
	Plump lettuce.
	Iceberg.
	No nutritional value in iceberg lettuce, although it is delicious.
	There are tons of people without money or fame that have a similar story to Depp and heard people just like to hate on rich people.
	Well, I mean, I can tell you, work in law enough and you'll see it.
	People who don't have the money of Depp and Heard who have the exact same problems, who have abusive relationships, and then who have to go squander what little money they have on attorneys.
	I mean, yeah, there's no question.
	But also, Johnny Depp's demeanor, I wonder how he's going to come off.
	It looks to me like he's acting a little bit too much, a little bit overly dramatic.
	Amber Heard on the flip side, it's like looking at a...
	I don't want to say a pitbull, because I like pitbulls, and I don't think pitbulls have killer eyes.
	Looking at her eyes, it's like looking at a remorseless animal.
	I would say even more like a crocodile.
	In that, you look at her face, to me it's devoid of emotion.
	Whereas I look at Johnny Depp's face, and to me it's a little bit hyper-infused with emotion.
	So...
	So anyways, that's my...
	My therapist is scared to see me.
	That's never a good start.
	One must have a therapist with whom one feels confident and has trust and confidence.
	That's all I'll say.
	The Johnny Depp thing.
	It is what it is.
	It feels like a little bit too much voyeurism and like the world is just getting off on watching the problems of the rich and famous, which they are.
	This is like soap opera, Days of Their Lives, except it's real.
	Real.
	All right, let's see what we've got here.
	Ivory is awesome.
	She is awesome.
	Hail Lobster.
	That is a Jordan Peterson book.
	Or is it a book?
	I know the meme.
	I don't actually know.
	Related to Jordan Peterson.
	Good avatar.
	Ivory is awesome.
	Ivory is what entrepreneurial spirit was what I was looking for before.
	Ivory is the embodiment of what happens when you have courage, principles.
	Entrepreneurial spirit and marketable skills.
	The level of terror that she must have been struggling with internally when she did that live and disclosed to the world, confession through projection.
	I'm looking at her and my fear would have been like, you immediately get arrested.
	That would be like, how are they going to try to ruin me?
	Arrest me, smear me for doing this.
	I like to think I would have done the same thing.
	It's very, very tough to see, you know, to determine how you would have behaved under similar circumstances.
	But she must have been swallowing her heart or it must have been like coming up through her throat as she was doing that.
	But, you know, she's a living example of what you can do.
	People want the ivory heckers of the world right now and they don't want...
	The Jesse Waters of the world.
	And I say that with respect to Jesse.
	I mean, with respect, as in respectfully to Jesse Waters.
	It might be me that's changed, not Fox News.
	It's not you, Fox.
	It's me.
	But, you know, the people paying the salaries of the Maddows and the Stelters and the Jesses and the Janine, when you realize that it's not crowdsourced.
	It is product sourced.
	It's industry sourced.
	When you realize how it works and that these people, at these big media companies, who's Ivory Hecker was who the interview was with the first hour?
	Patti Pazim.
	I think that might have been a joke.
	When you realize how they're paid and the structure through which it occurs and, you know.
	You realize it's not organic.
	It might not be organic, and the second it's not organic, it's manufactured.
	And then you appreciate that the news is manufactured, the narrative is manufactured, but you know that the world wants more of the organic, merit-based, authentic journalism, fact-searching, fact-finding, than the narrative.
	But...
	Like they say, when you fight corruption, corruption fights back.
	And when you try to, you know, when the CBCs of the world realize that they're losing their grip on the narrative, when the Scarboroughs realize that they no longer are the ones who can tell you what to think, well, they fight back in various ways.
	And in Canada, they're fighting back using their government subsidizers who are trying to impose laws now, which would basically...
	Stifle the voices that have been succeeding on their own merits to the detriment of the legacy media.
	And in the States, you got your censorship too.
	But yeah, that's it.
	Canada blew past inflation expectation at 6.7%.
	Integrity all but gone.
	Let me just see.
	When am I running for office?
	Again.
	Varying Redbird.
	I've already run.
	Oh, I might have to do pickups.
	Okay, I can do pickups.
	Oh my goodness, I've got another stream tonight, not on my...
	Sorry, for everybody in the chat, we don't have...
	Salty Cracker is on tomorrow, noon Pacific time.
	Tonight, I'm going to be on Nicholas Wandsbutter's channel with Maxime Bernier.
	I've tweeted it out, but I'll share the link on my social...
	Oh, I'm 500 followers away from 200,000 on Twitter.
	And I only say that because I like nice round numbers and odd hanging numbers drive me crazy.
	I'm going to be on with Nicholas Wandsbutter, Don't Talk TV, tonight at 6.30 with Maxime Bernier.
	Can we get it?
	There we go.
	So that's tonight at 6.30.
	So there's no sidebar tonight.
	It is tomorrow, Salty Cracker, at noon Pacific, which I believe is 3 Eastern.
	So when will I run again?
	What do you mean by run?
	Okay.
	We'll see.
	I'm not sure that I could survive in politics.
	I'm not...
	I believe that I'm uncorruptible.
	And I think that would not...
	It would not survive in politics.
	And in a way, I'm sort of maybe a little relieved that I didn't get elected.
	Although I know now I never had the chance.
	But...
	Sorry, Viva, I'm washing my...
	Well, so am I, Debbie.
	I'm joking.
	By the way, people, it's not far off from a ponytail.
	We're almost at a ponytail, but we are at the troll.
	We're at the troll level of the hair.
	I have become the internet troll.
	So that's what's on for the day.
	I'm going to go get one of my kids and maybe just take a few more questions.
	Let me just see what the missus has to say.
	I can do pickups and I will let the other child know.
	I can do pickup.
	See you soon.
	I'm not sure I can actually do this.
	I'll have to go do...
	We got one kid upstairs.
	And my wife had been doing the tag team.
	The tag team learning.
	This morning was homeschooling.
	Involuntary homeschooling.
	But that's it.
	All right, people.
	So that is what's going on.
	That's what's going on in the world.
	Tomorrow, Salty Cracker.
	It's another one-hour stream.
	So we'll see if I either go live early and then lead into Salty Cracker or stay live afterwards and then just continue.
	Stream of consciousness.
	Analysis of the world.
	But that's what's happening for tomorrow.
	So we will be around.
	But nothing tonight on my channel.
	Nicholas Wandsbutter.
	I should have actually plugged his channel.
	Come on, man.
	It's on YouTube, Facebook.
	It's called Don't Talk Television.
	I'll share the link.
	I'll share the link.
	Politics is offensive to pious ears.
	Ah, yes.
	And what do we got here?
	Are you deplatformed yet?
	No, no, no.
	I've been very good.
	I've been very good in terms of not breaking the rules.
	This stream had been demonetized from early on, but it will get re-monetized afterwards.
	I'm convinced it occurs because people flag it and not because I've actually come close to breaking any rules, because I haven't.
	2,000 some odd videos on YouTube.
	Never a strike.
	Never a terms of service or community guidelines warning.
	Never a video pulled.
	And remained pulled, except for the one pulled and returned.
	That is all.
	The salt will flow tomorrow.
	I've got to go do some boning up on Salty Cracker and get to some of his scandalous, scandalous behavior.
	I see Jack Jackson wants to shave me like an alpaca.
	No, no.
	Dude, we are not shaving the hair.
	Anytime soon.
	It would be like...
	Oh, no.
	We're not cutting the hair anytime soon.
	The biggest void in the world is right behind...
	Yeah, Scott Adams, to his credit, I think had the funny take that there's a lot of space.
	There's a lot of empty space out there.
	And I think that was what he was alluding to.
	Thanks for that interview, Viva.
	It was quite informative.
	It's amazing.
	I could have gotten into some a little more of the nitty-gritty gossipy stuff, but probably better not to.
	Her interview with Lara Logan on the war in Ukraine was particularly insightful.
	Lara Logan...
	Very well spoken.
	Very well researched.
	And very courageous.
	And hopefully we'll be able to get Lara Logan on as well sometime soon.
	People, go.
	Enjoy the rest of the day.
	Get outside.
	If you're in Canada, you might want to stay inside because it's freaking freezing outside.
	It snowed yesterday.
	But it shall warm up.
	Get some sunlight.
	Fresh air exercise.
	Check in on friends and family.
	Thank you for being here.
	Oh, there was one Rumble rant.
	There was a Rumble rant before I almost forgot.
	A Rumble.
	And if anybody has any news on Gonzalo's whereabouts, let us know.
	Don't spread rumors.
	There's a lot of rumors being spread and they don't help anything.
	HogheadV2 on a rumble says, two of my favorite news people.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, Florida's looking good.
	Okay.
	Anyhow, we'll see.
	People, take care of yourselves.
	I will see you tonight on Wandsbutter's channel.
	W-A-N-S-B-U-T-T-R.
	On that channel, see you tomorrow on this channel with the venerable, the honorable, Lord Salty Cracker.
	He will be here tomorrow and we'll talk about some other fun stuff.
	See you all soon.
	Take out, take out.
	Take care, peeps.

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