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March 22, 2022 - Viva & Barnes

02:41:17

veteran James Topp!'s Walk Across Canada! Viva Frei Live!

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	Hello, everyone.
	It's the end of the day here on March the 21st.
	It's still March the 21st.
	We're going back to Yak.
	I'm pretty sure there's a song in there somewhere.
	We're going to have some supper, meet up with some folks, and we also are running a little bit behind schedule, but we have the magic ability to go back in time by one hour because we're crossing time zones.
	So I'll see you back in Yak, or I'll see you here in the morning.
	Have a good day.
	or night Alright, I hope people saw that and heard that.
	Good afternoon, people.
	We just hit the noon hour.
	And this is going to be another fun one.
	James Topp.
	I mean, I'm looking at him in the backstage right now.
	He's not yet on screen to be seen.
	He's walking through what appears to be the Rocky Mountains currently, as we speak.
	Now, I'm going to do the standard intro.
	I don't say kill a few minutes.
	I'm going to use a few minutes to let everybody get the notification so that people can trickle in and not miss the actual substance of today's live stream, which is going to be...
	I was walking through Ottawa and talking to people.
	Well, I'm going to be sitting...
	We were going to go from an Ottawa walk and talk.
	To a Montreal sit-and-talk, except it's going to be a walk-and-talk, because James Top is quite literally walking across the country.
	Very much Terry Fox-ish, literally started at the Terry Fox Memorial in Vancouver, BC, going to Ottawa.
	I imagine might end up at the Terry Fox Memorial in Ottawa.
	Excuse me.
	But look, before we get started on the actual substance of the stream, I'm going to bring up one super chat, give the standard disclaimers.
	I was planning on starting with my rage against the machine.
	You know what really grows my fro rant?
	I'm going to do it at some point today.
	Jagmeet Singh and the New Democratic Party.
	The New Democrat Party?
	They may as well just call themselves the New Dictator Party.
	Or you know what?
	The Neo Dictator Party.
	Because that's what they've become.
	Viva, I want no excuses about not enough time in a day.
	You need to go to Rumble and watch Political Prisoner.
	The Koi Griffin story.
	I always have time in the day for something interesting.
	Screenshot.
	I will do my best.
	Maybe not today, but soon.
	Perfect intro.
	Standard disclaimers.
	Superchats, thank you all in advance.
	If you give a superchat, I appreciate it, but I may not get to all superchats.
	So if you're going to be unhappy, if I do not bring up your superchat, or if you're ever going to attempt to hold it against me, I gave a superchat and you didn't bring it up.
	Please do not give the superchat.
	I don't.
	Like people feeling exploited.
	YouTube takes 30% of Super Chats.
	If you don't like that, we are currently simultaneously live streaming on Rumble on the Rumbles.
	Let me go see what we are there.
	We're Rumble.
	We're live.
	And Rumble has these things called Rumble Rants, which are the equivalent of Super Chats if you want to support the channel.
	Another way to support?
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
	Arguably the best community for legal, political...
	Interwebical discourse, and so on and so forth.
	So this is by popular demand, or not even by popular demand, by demand.
	I got a message, a text message from someone who I now consider to be my friend, you know who you are, saying, there's a guy trying to get in touch with you, here's a link.
	I go check on the link.
	I see a short video from someone who I've never seen before, James Top, saying, trying to get in touch with social media influencers.
	It was very funny.
	It was...
	I think deliberately, because I think the guy's got a sense of humor, comedically, like an infomercial, like, are you a social media influencer?
	If so, I'd like to get in touch with you.
	So there's that.
	I see the video.
	I look into the individual a little bit.
	I look into the cause.
	I then go around and ask my network of trusted friends and confidants, is this legit?
	Is this meaningful?
	The reality is we live in such...
	I don't think the times are any different than they ever have been, but where there is crisis, there will be predators.
	Where there is opportunity, there will be people looking to exploit those opportunities.
	And, you know, in as much as there were a lot of fraudulent fundraisers that were set up in the wake of any given incident, tragedy, or opportunity, you have to double-check that you know who you're getting, who you are effectively, you know.
	Not say promoting, but who you are engaging with to make sure that you're not engaging with and thus amplifying, promoting people who are up to no good.
	You know, along the lines of that GoFundMe with Bobbitt and McClure and that other guy, DeFranco, D 'Angelo, D 'Angelo.
	And it was that...
	Bobbitt McClure fundraiser where the homeless guy gave his last $20 to a woman who ran out of gas and was stranded.
	They set up a GoFundMe raised $400,000.
	It was all a scam from day one to the end.
	And the only reason people found out about it is because, true to form, no honor among scoundrels.
	They started fighting among themselves over the money.
	So, I hear about this individual, a veteran, who's marching across Canada.
	And I do, you know, my due diligence.
	I speak with people I know.
	Tom Marazzo, who I did a live stream with two weeks ago, this Friday, I guess, was one of the individuals who volunteered, participated in the convoy, had his bank accounts frozen, his wife's credit was affected.
	He knows James Topp, and a number of people said, this guy's doing something amazing, and he's got an amazing story to tell, and that's what we're going to be doing today.
	I'm not going to sully the...
	Encouraging the inspirational part of this with my Jagmeet Singh rant.
	We'll get to that after we've had a discussion with James Topp.
	Everyone out there, share the link around.
	I think everybody who is interested in this is going to know about it already.
	And the real trick is getting people who might not know that they're going to be interested in this to hear this because it's going to be inspirational and it's going to be amazing.
	We're going to walk and talk with James Topp.
	Let me see.
	Based on where they are right now, it's beautiful is where it is.
	What else is there?
	No medical advice, no election fortification advice, no legal advice, and I'm going to try to pull up as much chat as possible so that we can actually...
	James Top is legit and a hero.
	Linby, thank you very much.
	I keep choking on my own tongue.
	I think Morazzo is going into politics.
	Yes, he is.
	He's running for the Ontario party in the next election.
	An individual to follow and to look into.
	Because when I was talking with him, you can detect determination in people through sufficient discourse.
	I detected legit determination in Tom Ratso.
	All right, let's do this now.
	I think I see him.
	James, I'm coming in.
	Are you ready, sir?
	I'm ready.
	Can you hear me all right?
	I can hear you.
	Now, if we hear an echo, I'm going to put my headphones on.
	But thus far, looks good.
	James, before we even get into anything, where are we and what are we looking at behind you in the splendor and beauty of Canada?
	Right, we're in British Columbia.
	We've just left Moye, the town of Moye.
	To my left is Moye Lake on the mountains and beyond.
	We're on route to Cranbrook.
	Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada.
	And that's where we're going to meet up with some folks and have a little bit of a chit-chat.
	They want to march through town.
	And we have started at the Terry Fox Memorial in Vancouver.
	This is day 31. And we are coming up on 800 kilometers.
	On foot!
	I'm going to lower your mic, and everyone in the chat, just tell me if it's a little better.
	We're going to try this again.
	James is loud.
	Okay, fine.
	Don't worry about it, James.
	It's on my side.
	I'll try to tinker with it and just get the right balance.
	James, look, you have some time on your hands, and I have lots of questions, but we're going to start with what I always call the elevator pitch before we get into it, and we're going to get into the elevator pitch in greater detail.
	But elevator pitch, who are you, and what are you doing?
	Well, as the name implies, I'm James Hopp, and I'm a soldier.
	I'm a Canadian.
	I'm a citizen of Canada.
	I've been a soldier for all of my adult life, really, 28 years.
	I transitioned from the regular army to the reserves in 2019, so I was in the reserve force for the last couple of years, and I had sought a new career.
	In the public service sector.
	I was working as a civilian employee with the RCMP in the town of Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada.
	I was a facility manager there.
	I currently live in Hope, British Columbia.
	I bought a home there last year.
	Yeah, so I'm due to a variety of issues that arose because of what I...
	I'm calling government overreach at this particular point in time.
	I've been placed on leave without pay for my public service job.
	And I'm in the process of being released on item 5F from Bomb Forces.
	What is item 5F?
	Item 5F is a failure, an unwillingness or inability to change a type of behavior.
	That is interfering with the performance of your duties.
	In this particular case, it's a failure to follow Chief of Defence Staff's directive on vaccination.
	Alright, now let's back it up all the way to the beginning.
	Born and raised in Canada?
	Yes, I was born in North York, Ontario.
	My folks moved to British Columbia.
	That was when I was a kid, so that are some of my earliest memories of growing up in and around Surrey, Delta, North Vancouver.
	Spent some time in a couple of smaller towns on the coast.
	Kitimat, Lurt Bay.
	Joined the army when I turned 20, joined the army.
	And then I spent I went to Nova Scotia for basic training, went to Wainwright, Alberta to do infantry training, wound up in Victoria, BC with 3PPCLI, got out for about nine months or so,
	got back in as the Royal Canadian Regiment, so those are both infantry regiments, regular force infantry regiments, and I'm an infantryman by trade, and I spent Yeah, and I did the infantry training.
	There are a number of other sub-set training that you do in the infantry, and I did a lot of other types of training over the years.
	If I may ask another thing, your parents, what did they do?
	How many generations Canadian are you?
	Well, my mother immigrated here from Hungary in the 50s, which is one of the reasons why all of this resonates with me in a particular way, She came here to escape a similar type of...
	I don't know how similar it is yet, but as you're probably familiar, there were some turbulence in the mid-50s back in the 20th century, and she had to get away with her spouse at the time from Hungary in the mid-50s.
	So anyway, she came to Canada.
	From Hungary, my dad was born in Nova Scotia outside Halifax in a place called Petersville.
	His particular background is kind of unknown to me, but English, I believe.
	And for my own benefit, by the way, the lake out to your left, is that frozen or is that thawed out now?
	No, it's a little bit of both, but it's getting there.
	Okay, and so how many siblings do you have?
	I got a kind of Brady Bunch situation going on.
	There was a couple of marriages on both sides.
	So from my mom and dad, I'm the only one.
	And then I have eight sisters and brothers from, you know, my mom and dad.
	They're in Alberta, Ontario, and back in BC.
	And your folks, your birth parents, are they still alive?
	No, they passed on.
	So you said you grew up in...
	Well, you're born in York, grew up in Vancouver.
	Yeah, North York, Ontario.
	It's a suburb of Toronto now.
	So you go to high school, university.
	How do you end up in the military?
	Yeah, well, that was the thing.
	I was kind of...
	I gravitated towards something that involved uniform, I think, when I was a kid.
	I had designs on being a police officer.
	Probably a good thing that I didn't become a police officer because I don't really...
	Joining the army was the right thing for me, let me put it that way.
	I didn't really have any high-minded ideals when I joined.
	I just wanted to see action and travel and mission accomplished.
	To be honest, it wasn't until the last...
	Well, really, I was fairly disenfranchised for a while with the military.
	Hold on a second, James.
	If I may ask you, unplug your phone jack and plug it back in.
	I think the audio got choppy.
	Yeah, we might be going through some type of cell phone dead zone.
	Can you hear me now?
	I can hear you.
	It's just that it sounds staticky.
	Maybe try to unplug it and just plug it back in and see what happens.
	Well, I'm on this sophisticated device here, so I don't actually know how it works.
	Let me try something.
	Okay.
	People say it's not so bad, though.
	Okay, well, we'll try to fix it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't know if that did anything or not.
	No, but we'll live with it for now, and if it's a cell issue, whatever, we'll deal with it.
	So, this is interesting.
	I have no experience with military training, service whatsoever.
	The question I always ask is, when people make the decision to go into it, your thought process is, it'll give me education, it'll give me training, it'll pay for my university, it'll give me, you know, I'll see the world.
	Do you get into it for any interest in combat or because it's a good life opportunity to travel and to have things paid for and to have a job, basically?
	Yeah, basically...
	Yeah, so I hope this is coming through clearer now.
	But like I was saying, I didn't really have any specific high-minded ideals like, you know, service to the country, so to speak.
	Okay, I'm fairly...
	I don't know how to say it.
	Like, I'm just some dude, right?
	Like, I just wanted to go out and live the life of a soldier and travel.
	And I thought soldiering was an honorable profession, so that's kind of why I signed up for that.
	And how old were you when you signed up?
	You said you're 20 years old when you signed up?
	20, yeah.
	20 years old, what year, give or take, are we in?
	As in, when you sign up, do you see a reasonable or foreseeable prospect of actually serving in active duty?
	Yeah, at that particular point in time, it was 1990.
	Prior to that, we had Oka.
	And then there was the Cold War business going on, which was kind of winding down.
	Then we had...
	At that particular time, I can't rightly recall exactly what was going on in the geopolitical realm, but we had the former Yugoslavia...
	The Civil War in Yugoslavia began in around late 1991, 1992, and by 1992, so a year and a half after I joined, I was in Yugoslavia for a year.
	So two years after you joined, you were deployed to Yugoslavia, and this is active on that?
	Not necessarily for us.
	We were part of a UN, what was called the United Nations Protection Force.
	We were kind of active combat in that we were caught between two sides fighting each other.
	What we were trying to do was establish United Nations protected areas.
	And on the cessation of hostilities there, there was a number of agreements made as to what the borders were going to be and how those borders were going to be enforced.
	Or sorry, policed, I should say.
	And we are a part of that, right?
	So because at that particular point in time, there was no Yugoslavian armed forces, so to speak, there.
	You know, the country had disintegrated.
	So I had gone back to regional lines and usually separated on linguistic lines, such as, you know, like the Croats, occupied Croatia, Serbians, and then you have Bosnia, Herzegovina.
	And so the area was segmented and now there's new borders that need to be policed, right?
	Yep.
	So that's where we were.
	So I got to do a year-long tour there just because back in the day I was an M113 driver.
	It's a type of armored vehicle.
	So they needed lots of dudes to stay behind and drive them things around.
	So I got to stay for a year.
	Saw a lot of Interesting stuff.
	And not to be...
	When you say interesting stuff, not to be facetious, you mean you're seeing things...
	You're seeing war firsthand in Yugoslavia.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was...
	It wasn't a one-on-one combat like what happened in Afghanistan.
	It was more along the lines of trying to maintain the peace between two warring parties in the former country.
	So we did get engaged on several occasions.
	There was a lot of tragedy due to, I don't know, confusion, let's call it, and misidentification probably.
	So, I mean, this is a question I've been asking.
	Like, the experience in Yugoslavia, you're told you're going for peacekeeping when you get down there and you see it up front.
	I mean, it might be a loaded question.
	Do you ever question what you're doing there?
	Do you ever question whether or not what you're doing there is peacekeeping per se?
	Or do you say, at some point you say, what on earth are we doing here?
	Um, well...
	To put it into context, looking through it at the lens of a 20-year-old, like, you know, do I know the distinction at that particular point in time between, you know, warfighting and peacekeeping or peacemaking or later doctrine that was to come out such as right to protect, so forth and so on?
	Like, I didn't know.
	Like, I'm in that particular conflict.
	Our role in that for the Canadian Armed Forces part of the United Nation was one of protection and security.
	So there were definitely times where I got frustrated because we're getting targeted by Croats and Serbs in some cases, both at the same time.
	And I'm like, I want to mix it up, right?
	But we have rules of engagement.
	There's peace to be had.
	Or sorry, there's peace to be made and we're not there to fight a war.
	Like, as a young dude, did I want to go to war there?
	Well, hell yeah.
	But that's what we were there for.
	I mean, as a 20-year-old also, you do military training and then they ship you off to Yugoslavia.
	Do you even...
	And I'm not saying this to be demeaning whatsoever.
	I mean, as 20-year-old, I don't think I would have known a lot about other stuff geopolitically unless I had a good reason to know about it.
	Do you know anything about the Yugoslavia or do you go because they say you're going there and then once they deploy you do they like give you a crash course in the geopolitics of what's going on or do they do it?
	No, no, absolutely.
	Like there's a specific amount of time.
	So this is a standard operating procedure within the armed forces.
	Unless it's a dire emergency on a very rare occasion are you going to be asked?
	To just jump into a hot zone without any kind of mission briefing, okay?
	So, even as a young guy, all the information that we had available, and I'm talking from the top down, Canadian Armed Forces wide, is made available to us.
	Like, what's the context of our mission?
	What's the situation?
	Who are the actors involved?
	What are we doing there?
	What's our role?
	All that stuff is made available to us.
	All of the things that...
	Make the Canadian Armed Forces as an institution effective or put into place for us, right?
	So we're going to know, okay, so what does a Serb soldier look like?
	What does a Croatian soldier look like?
	What are their uniforms?
	What weapons and equipment do they have?
	What are their capabilities?
	What are our capabilities?
	So forth and so on.
	So there's extensive training that goes on.
	Beforehand from everything from the individual soldier making sure that he can shoot straight to company battalion live what's called live fire exercises so that if the preferably you know what hits the fan not only can we defend ourselves as an organized group but we can take it back to the enemy as well.
	So all this is put into place even before you know you get on an airplane.
	And so you land in Yugoslavia.
	You're peacekeeping.
	And then what sort of things are you witnessing?
	We hear about them incidentally or through the media, which I no longer believe.
	But what sort of things are you witnessing firsthand in your experience in Yugoslavia?
	Chaos and destruction.
	Lots of life, lots of livelihood, lots of homes.
	So you're looking at a civil war as an outsider.
	So I'll tell you a story.
	One that stuck with me throughout the years is that...
	So we got into theater.
	The way it works when you get into a theater, you hit a kind of a four...
	The actual jargon escapes me at the moment, but...
	You go to a camp and you get ready to shake out into your company lines, or your platoon lines, which are somewhere on the edge of the battlefield.
	So we had landed in Zagreb.
	From Zagreb, we deployed to a camp called Camp Pallum, and from there, my company, we took over for 3RCR, who had deployed there.
	They were on Roto-0.
	So I was in 3PBCLI at the time, and my company took over.
	Their duties in a town called Pakrack, P-A-K-A-R-C.
	So we are doing foot patrol to make sure that the border is maintaining its integrity.
	And we walk by this apartment building, which is, you know, little with bullet holes.
	God only knows what kind of explosives used on it.
	Holes in the walls.
	Collapse ceiling on the ground floor.
	I walked by an apartment with an open window, looked inside into a dining room, and you can see where the conflict there started so fast and was so unexpected.
	The level of intensity achieved in such a short period of time, everybody just dropped what they were doing and ran for the hills.
	So I looked into a dining room of an apartment where you could still see the place setting where the family had been sitting down to eat supper.
	So all the food was laid out, all the cutlery, you know, knives and forks and glasses and everything had happened so fast that particular village just dropped everything and ran for it.
	That's why I'll never forget that.
	And so there's internal fighting as part of the peacekeeping.
	I guess the question is, my question personally, my own edification, as the peacekeeping mission, what were the rules of engagement as far as you were concerned, patrolling the streets, as far as aerial bombing was concerned, as far as the West?
	What were they doing?
	What was within the scope of their mission for peacekeeping?
	Well, that was...
	Like I said, again, as a young person in that particular field, the rules of engagement were something that were continually evolving because it's a complicated situation.
	We're not there as soldiers to pacify an enemy force.
	We're there to maintain a peace.
	So in that respect, all of your training has to Conform to the fact that you're there to keep the peace.
	So you're like a cop in a lot of ways.
	Right?
	At the end of the day, though, we're always told you have the right to defend yourself.
	And regardless of what happened, you know, like, I mean, if we were engaged by the enemy, there's a certain set of procedures that had to happen before you were to engage back.
	But if your life was an immediate danger, you always had to threaten.
	So you always have your personal weapon, you have the skills, and you have the ability to defend yourself.
	When you mention you're the cop, and I'm not referring to them as gangs for anything except the analogy, but you're a cop sort of trying to keep the peace between two warring factions.
	That's exactly right.
	Do they both hate you as much?
	Does one like you?
	Does one not like you?
	Or do they both say, get the hell out of here, we want to fight?
	Yeah.
	Again, this is a number of years ago now, but both of the Coats and Serbs, for the most part, thought that we were there as a United Nations force to protect the other side, for example.
	I don't know if that makes sense or not.
	So just to clarify, the Coats thought we were there to help the Serbs, and the Serbs thought we were there to help the Coats.
	You know what I mean?
	Yep.
	And so you're there for a year.
	How do you make it back?
	Do you make it back because the mission was over or for other reasons?
	Well, eventually that particular mission evolved into another one.
	So that United Nations mission turned into another peacekeeping mission in Bosnia, which turned into a stabilization force.
	But at the end of my rotation there, so it would have been the end of 1993, the last part of 1993, I got back to Canada.
	They had extended my three-year contract just so I could complete the mission there.
	I got back, got out of the Army right in the beginning of 1994 when my terminal leave was up.
	And then spent a couple of years.
	Sorry, a couple of months living in Toronto, trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
	By the end of 1994, like in about October, I was back in the military.
	But now I was in a different infantry regiment.
	Okay, and so moving off of Yugoslavia, what's your next deployment in the military?
	Yeah, so I got out of the army, got back in.
	I wanted to get back out into...
	Well, just bear with me here.
	We're coming up on our mobile command post.
	I'll let you have a look at it.
	Okay, this is very cool.
	And everybody in the chat, we're going to get to the good stuff.
	We've got time, and I'm not sure when I'm going to get to talk with James again, so I want to get...
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	We're just going to go in front of the RV and have a sit down on our rucksacks.
	Okay.
	Because I like to have a march discipline.
	Yeah, you want to just kill the generator?
	We have marked discipline, right?
	So marked discipline is typically about 50 minutes with a 10-minute break, but we're going at a fairly slow pace.
	Anyway, to go back to your question, I got out of the military in the beginning of 1994, got back in, and...
	I remember my enrollment date, my re-enrollment date was October 17, 1994.
	At that particular point in time, I wound up in Petawawa, Ontario.
	I was part of the 1st Battalion Royal Canadian Regiment.
	So I spent a number of years between the 1st Battalion Royal Canadian Regiment and the 3rd Battalion Royal Canadian Regiment.
	Over, I think I was posted out of that...
	Based on around 2009, 2010.
	But in between that time, I had done a tour in Bosnia, Macedonia, and two tours in Afghanistan.
	How does it work?
	There's active duty, then there's reserves?
	How does that work, and when do you go out of active duty and into the reserves?
	Well, yeah, so...
	With regards to duty, like I said, you joined up under a contract.
	My initial contract was three years.
	And then if you decide you want to stay longer, then you sign up for another three-year contract.
	And then you get on what's called an indefinite period of service.
	That will take you to 20, and then you get the opportunity to start collecting your pension, or you stay in longer, which just increases your pensionable time.
	So, for me, because I got out in the beginning of 94, I was...
	How do I put it?
	I was out of the service, and then I re-enrolled in October of 94. I was back in active service.
	And from 1994 until 2019, I was in the regular army for the duration of that period.
	Okay, now you're in the regular army, meaning that's what you do for a little...
	I mean, that's your job.
	Yeah, exactly.
	24 and 7. A question I've always been interested in is, you come back from active duty, whether it's peacekeeping or whatever, What is it like reintegrating into society?
	And I say society not in a hierarchical sense.
	What's it like coming back from...
	It's combat, whether or not it's peacekeeping versus active war.
	You're coming back to Canada.
	What is it like coming back to this peaceful life among people who don't understand anything that you've gone through in war?
	And vice versa.
	Now you look back at society here and say, okay, I have nothing in common with this.
	Did you have those issues and what is it like coming back from active duty to peaceful life in Canada?
	Yeah, I would say that was probably one of the things that contributed to my getting released.
	I'm not getting released.
	I chose to take a release after my initial contract was up just because of the fact that I spent a year in Yugoslavia.
	Well, there was times where it was really boring.
	There was times of sheer terror.
	But there was an atmosphere that I liked there.
	It was kind of hard to describe, but I came back and it was gone.
	Going back to peacetime training didn't really appeal to me, so to speak.
	It's difficult to describe.
	I don't know how to say it.
	Like, I wanted to see action again, so to speak, and I just want to clarify, like, when I say, when we talk about active service and active duty and stuff like that, when you're in the regular army, you're always on active duty, more or less, unless you're on a period of leave.
	Even when you're on leave, you can be recalled at any time in the event of an emergency.
	So, just to clarify on that.
	So between that period, at the end of 93, October of 94, I was officially out of the Army as a civilian, looking for something else, didn't quite find what I was after and decided that the military was where I needed to be and I got back into the regular force.
	And the difference between the regular force and the reserve force is that the reserve is more of a part-time gig for folks who have...
	careers who don't have the ability to commit their lives to the professional army and it just gives them the opportunity to do the training have that exposure to a military life and when they choose to they can also take part in operations.
	So for example we had a number of reservists with us in Yugoslavia Because the regular army just doesn't have the manpower to fill all of the spots we needed.
	So a lot of the times, reservists will help us out and take up the slack in that regard.
	So that's mainly the difference between the regular army and the reserves.
	But as I said, I was in the regular army from 1994 back into 2019.
	And that was, I think, like I said, a difficult period of adjustment for me between...
	Getting out after my tour in Yugoslavia, getting back in the Army, and then waiting for another mission, because that's basically why I joined the Army in the first place.
	Now, someone in the chat said maybe try, if you're able to, or ask Christian to disconnect your Bluetooth and try to reconnect it while we're stopped and see if that affects the headphones.
	Okay.
	Phil, can you do that?
	Oh, sorry.
	Can you disconnect the Bluetooth and reconnect the Bluetooth?
	Yeah.
	And then we'll take a break now for a second.
	Now I hope if this advice or request gets him booted from the stream, I'm joking.
	He'll come back in a second.
	And by the way, guys, everyone in the chat, I don't block anybody except for overt malicious threats and spamming because I don't believe that there's an actual human behind some of these Russian sex bots.
	I don't use the block as a tool to suppress speech, only to avoid actual bot spammers and actual other bad stuff.
	And bad stuff, I mean overt threats.
	Let's hear James.
	It might be better?
	I don't know, is it?
	I can hear you perfectly, so I don't know.
	We're going to live with it.
	We're not going to let the perfect get in the way of the good.
	Hold on.
	I hear my echo now.
	Let me just put my headphones on.
	So I can keep my...
	Now, I think I might hear the echo.
	People in the chat, do you hear my echo?
	Let me know.
	Now, the question...
	Another question I know.
	I know military people don't like talking about it, but I'm going to ask.
	And not to where everyone thinks it's going.
	Awards.
	For anybody who's questioning out there or who's wondering.
	Recognition awards.
	I don't know how that works.
	Do you get milestones, like things that you get for every five years, ten years in the army or for active duty, certain acts and service.
	Do you get those things in the context of your service?
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, I mean, for us, in the Canadian Army, we get what's called a CD, which is basically a recognition of 12 continuous years of good service, good conduct.
	It's a conduct medal, basically.
	So, just so your audience knows, I didn't really...
	I'm not a model soldier in a number of ways, especially when I was a younger guy, so...
	In the Infantry Corps, it attracts a certain type of person, and some of us like to get in trouble.
	So I didn't get my first good conduct medal until about 16 years after I was in.
	Until you're 16 years?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you typically get them out of trouble.
	May I ask what you got in trouble for, James, if you're at liberty to discuss it?
	No.
	Let me put it this way.
	Drinking, fighting, taking unauthorized vacations, that kind of thing.
	Okay, very...
	Now, are there...
	Are there sanctions for these things?
	I mean, we know of dishonorable discharge and those types of terms, but did you get reprimanded at any point in the military?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Yeah, a ton of trouble.
	Went to spend some time in military jail.
	What is military jail for those who don't know?
	Apparently the audio is even worse now.
	I'm going to try to lower you a bit.
	I'll try something else for a sec here.
	Hang on.
	If you've got the plug in here, bud, that might work better.
	Okay.
	Hang on.
	We're going to see people if this fixes it.
	No?
	Yeah, I was getting a little distracted by the audio myself for a second there.
	This It's interesting.
	I mean, it's an interesting character.
	Look, at some point, you're going to assume that if someone decides to walk across the country in protest...
	It takes a certain type of personality to do that.
	And it might not be one that is very easily deferential to authority.
	But we're going to get into the why in a second.
	But it is very important.
	Anybody who's new to the channel, I get the same type of comments all the time.
	Stop with the intro stuff.
	We don't care about the childhood.
	I do.
	And this way, when I do this the first time, I never have to do it again when we have them back on.
	This sounds like it might be better.
	Can you hear me now, James?
	I can hear you.
	Can you hear me?
	It's as good as we're going to get before we try to take with it.
	I'm going to bring up the audio just a touch.
	All right, so when you say you go to jail or you went to, I don't know what you said was the word, in the military, what is that?
	I mean, I can only think of the brig, but I know nothing.
	I only know what I've seen in movies.
	Yeah, so basically when you get in enough shit, excuse my language, when you get in enough trouble in the army, you go into...
	We call it a club bed, but it's detention barracks.
	I spent 24 days in detention barracks for going on leave without authorization.
	When you say 24 days in detention barracks, is that military prison literally?
	Yeah, it's military jail.
	It's not like a typical jail because you have to do stuff.
	It was definitely...
	I learned my lesson, let me put it that way.
	I didn't go anywhere.
	Basically, it's like re-education military style, but do they have you in a cell or are you in the same type of barracks that you'd be in with other people who are in the similar situation?
	You spend the evening in a cell.
	So from 2300 to 0500, you're in a cell.
	At 0500, the cell door opens.
	As the light comes on, you have to step outside of the cell.
	Put your shoelaces back in the footwear, what we call triple climb, and that's not running, that's marching and triple climb, assemble in the corridor, do roll call, and from there you get a chance to shave, flail around, get some breakfast, and then start daily chores, which basically consists of managing your gear.
	You're not there to...
	To just sit around twiddling your thumbs and contemplating why you wound up there.
	It's about retraining you in the military lifestyle.
	So that involves inspections, shining, polishing, cleaning, polishing, shining, and cleaning some more, juggling snow, and exercise.
	And by that, I mean push-ups.
	I don't know how they do things anymore.
	It says, hey Viva, slight echo, goofy headphones.
	Thank you Mr. Topp for your past and present service.
	Godspeed on your journey.
	And people who are, I guess, are fresh into the chat.
	Where are you?
	You're in BC.
	Where are you headed today?
	Granbrook.
	Granbrook.
	All right, so now let's get to the present.
	Although one day on another day we're going to delve into what you did.
	Your naughty behavior in the military that lands you in jail.
	First of all, people are asking, what's in your backpack and how much is it worth?
	Well, okay.
	Why don't we do this?
	We're going to go over here.
	I'm going to unpack it for you.
	I'm going to show you.
	Well, that sounds very...
	This is like one of those shows.
	I don't know.
	How to Pack Your Bag.
	This will be the How to Pack Your Backpack.
	That's true, because he has a convoy, but I presume...
	James, you have a convoy, but I presume you're carrying all of your necessities in your backpack?
	Yeah, because initially the concept of this was it was going to be a one-man show.
	I wasn't sure if anybody would actually care if I was doing this.
	And the fact that a bunch of people do has exceeded my wildest expectations in a way I can't even describe.
	But this is everything I need to survive for a 24-hour period.
	This here, all this stuff...
	That's contributed to us, to this effort, by people who are...
	Just take your shit off.
	Sorry.
	Take your stuff off.
	We're not going anywhere yet.
	Okay.
	These are volunteers that have driven to meet us.
	And this here RV and trailer is stuff that has been loaned to me, right?
	That's amazing.
	Because it went from being just me to the nine of us now, right?
	And I met all these folks on the 20th of February when I stepped off from Terry Fox.
	But before I get too far ahead into that.
	So I have everything I need in here to survive for 24 hours.
	So I got, let me start with this.
	I'm going to go through this pretty quick.
	So I got some beef jerky.
	I got a thing that goes over your neck and your ears if you need it.
	I've got an MRE.
	I've had this MRE for probably 10 years, and as I understand it, they last for at least...
	What's an MRE?
	That's a meal ready to eat.
	Okay.
	So it's a ration pack.
	You've got this boil-in-the-bag stuff.
	I've got Ziploc bags, lots of Ziploc bags.
	I've got mementos here from folks who have drawn me little cards and stuff.
	I carry those ones around with me.
	That one's from Bliss.
	Ground forks.
	Little girl.
	Got some writing material.
	Ziploc bag.
	Ziploc bag is very important.
	I can't stress the importance of Ziploc bag.
	Got a trauma kit.
	Hand warmers.
	Reflective belt.
	Extra straps.
	I got this rock in here.
	It's my lucky rock.
	It says Rock Creek.
	It was given to me by a fellow in Rock Creek.
	Okay, so I'm going to put that away.
	Oh yeah, I have this cookie here.
	and a cookie I dare say that might have been a Felix and Norton cookie by the looks of it.
	Homemade.
	Homemade one that looks just as good.
	Or even better.
	I think he's glowing.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so that's in the top.
	I got my GPS live link there.
	It's a spot tracker.
	Excuse me, talking about my office pool.
	Again, that was donated to us by some fellas in Maple Ridge, and they helped us set up the GPS live link.
	And I couldn't have done it without them because I know jack squat about that kind of IT stuff.
	So in here is a survival kit.
	So I got everything to like make a feeler, speed, and shelter, boil water, and catch a game.
	So waterproof matches, that kind of thing.
	So in here, have this impermeal membrane, also known as a garbage bag.
	Keeps all my stuff dry.
	Got a puffy jacket.
	I've got more Ziploc bags because I had a pair of gloves in here.
	But if I was going to take my gloves and I wanted to keep them dry, I'm going to put it in a Ziploc bag just like that.
	So I've got a Ziploc bag.
	Again, t-shirt, underpants, not cotton.
	Don't ever wear cotton in a survival situation.
	got more another another tube another poly pro shirt More underpants, because you can never have too many underpants.
	Well, actually you can, but...
	Norwegian merino wool top.
	Gloves.
	Work gloves.
	Socks.
	Lots of socks.
	Change of pants.
	My old bush hat.
	Sock liners.
	Mittens.
	Gloves.
	So, for those of you guys who are interested in this kind of thing, if you're a survivalist, you're thinking about getting in the military, gloves and hats.
	It's always good to have extra pairs of gloves and hats, not just one.
	So, I have a towel.
	This is also merino wool, so I have a merino wool top and a merino wool set of long johns.
	I got these from the Norwegian Army.
	Guys, I was working with them for a while.
	Got a knife.
	And then this bag here.
	Got an opening in the bottom.
	And I got my sleeping bag in here.
	As you can see, it's also Encased in a clear, impermeable, waterproof membrane.
	James, what you're using there is your original military bag?
	That's not a...
	Hell no.
	Hell no.
	No, no.
	This is a civilian bag.
	I decided not to bring any of my Canadian Army gear with me because they're pretty mad at me as it is.
	Okay, good point.
	They might want their gear back and I want to be able to do this.
	And now, so while you pack that stuff back up, you've been sleeping in tents or you've been sleeping in people's houses?
	Yeah, well, I also, in here, I got a one-man tent in there.
	And that was my original intent.
	I would just march into my camp out on the side of the road, places like this.
	But as more people got interested in what I was doing...
	Oh yeah, look.
	Here, I got my compass.
	Headlamp.
	Got a saw and a light.
	Oh, and actually, Mike Stalk asked, has anyone asked about the boots?
	What are you walking in?
	Just out of curiosity.
	Oh, yeah, and I got my...
	Yeah, I'll get there in a sec.
	So this is a jet boil and my mess cup.
	You always got to boil.
	You got to be able to boil water when you go in the boat.
	So, yeah, these here are Salomon trail shoes.
	I initially had a pair of Loas.
	I had a pair of Loas, but whatever happened to me over the last couple of months, I would say it was probably something similar that happened to the Grinch in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.
	I gave up on hating myself and other people.
	My heart grew three sizes.
	So did my feet.
	So now I got these bigger feet.
	I got bigger shoes because the lowest were too small.
	And have you gone through shoes out of actual wear and tear?
	Because, I mean, you're putting on a year's worth of kilometers in, you know, a week or two?
	Yeah, they're getting there.
	Like, these ones are fairly new, right?
	Like, even though you can't tell, but the tread's still good on them, but they're starting to get wore down there.
	You can see.
	Because I like to double-time every once in a while just to make up.
	There's folks who want to stop and say hi and stuff, right?
	So we say hi to them, and then they're going to make up for it.
	Go ahead.
	One question I actually totally forgot to ask, and I'm looking at your finger and I don't see a ring, but are you married?
	Do you have any kids?
	Yeah, no, no.
	I was in a relationship.
	I kind of blew it.
	So, no granny kids.
	Okay.
	And now, I mean, I guess we've got to get into how this all started.
	I mean, we're going to get into what it's like, but how did it start?
	I mean, how did you start doing this?
	I know it starts well before this.
	Tell me how it started.
	I'm going to ask you about the last two years of your life.
	Yeah, let me just pack this up.
	So I just want to resolve the question of how much this weighs.
	Some days it weighs like 30, and some days it weighs like 60. How many liters is the backpack?
	I think it's 100, over 100.
	It's a really good backpack.
	I'm pretty happy with it.
	Once upon a time, I used to be into backpacks.
	Camping.
	What kind of one-person tent do you have?
	I think it's...
	I bought it from Mountain Equipment Co-op and it's like a baby bag.
	I don't know if you've ever heard of a baby bag.
	It's totally cool.
	Once upon a time, I always had the dream that I would use a single or a two-man tent, but I go camping either alone...
	I never do camping alone because I go one night and I'm like, I have to go back and get back to friends.
	Okay, so, James...
	So this is, like, I don't know, like, I think it's probably about 35, 40 pounds.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	You've been doing 50k a day, give or take?
	No, no.
	So, I'd just like to clarify on that, is that the plan was to average 40k a day over the entire journey.
	In this part, coming through the mountains here, I knew we weren't going to be able to achieve that 40 kilometers a day, especially like trying to get through some of the mountain passes.
	The initial couple of weeks of this part were kind of like our conditioning exercise as well.
	So yesterday, for example, we did 35. The day before that, we did 40. The day before that, we did 42. And then there were days where we only did 20 or 25 just because our feet were hurting, right?
	When we get out of the mountains and when the weather is better, we're going to lighten our loads and then we're really going to pick up the pace and make up for that to get that 40 kilometers kind of average up.
	So going through the mountains here, the distances are variable.
	Also, too, we get lots of invites.
	To go back to, I don't think we answered that question.
	People have opened their homes to us since we started, basically.
	Okay.
	And it's been really something to see and behold, like the level of interest and support coming from communities who are affiliated with this kind of freedom activist, I don't know what to call it, network.
	I got family, friends and relatives helping me on the messaging platforms and stuff.
	They are communicating with folks who know we're coming through their towns and they're telling us to come and stay.
	For example, yesterday we stayed in the town hall in the community of Yak, British Columbia.
	And so we haven't had as such to kind of like rough it out in the campsite yet, even though we're prepared to do that.
	Okay.
	So when we get into the better weather, we're going to lighten our loads and then pick up the pace.
	But just to go back on that, like for the backpacks, this is also a journey of...
	It's a demonstration.
	It's a lead by example.
	It's the ability to show people what they can do if they put their minds to it, right?
	So that's why I like everybody to have what they need to survive on them because then when we come down out of the mountains and start advancing across the prairies, we'll be a lot stronger.
	So I don't know if there was a question that we were going to ask about that you had about how we got here over the last two years.
	Yeah, so you do 25 years active service.
	You stop doing that in 2019, and then you go into the reserves.
	And I guess that's where the journey starts, you know, give or take sometime in 2020.
	What happens after you leave full-time Army and then go into the reserves?
	Yeah, so I had applied for a position as a civilian now with the RCMP as a facility manager at a shooting range.
	It's called PRTC, thank you.
	So at the Provincial Regional Training Centre, that's where all RCMP members have to go to qualify on their sidearms and their carbines, because if they don't qualify on a yearly basis, then they're not operational.
	They can't deploy out in the streets.
	So for that region, that training centre...
	The firearms instructors there put all of the members through what's called their annual firearms qualification.
	So I was able to work there as a facility manager.
	I didn't do any instruction myself.
	I just made sure that the building was open, that the weapons are locked up, that there's enough ammunition to do the training, enough targets.
	You know, all of the air filtration systems are up and running.
	If there was something that needed to be repaired, I either repaired it myself or I called the appropriate repair agency, right?
	It was an excellent job.
	I worked with a number of very dedicated and professional firearms instructors.
	And the other gentleman that I worked with was a retired RCMP member.
	And I looked up to the gentleman a lot.
	And so that's the job I applied for at the end of 2019.
	It took approximately a year for all the security checks to go through, and then I started working there in March 2021.
	And in that time, I was working in Kingston with the regular army, finished my service with the regular army, sold my house, moved to British Columbia, bought another house, started this new job.
	And then with all this is all in the.
	The events that we're all familiar with started in March 2020 and then March 2021 I'm in BC, I'm established, I'm working at this new job and then we have the imposition of the mandates or the announcement of the mandates in August and then that affected me in the middle of November of last year when I was placed on leave without pay.
	And I was also informed by the Canadian forces that I'm going to be released under Item 5 Act.
	And now, the last two years of life, or say as of 2019, you want to go into civilian life, or I forget what you call it, reserve life.
	So it takes you a while to get this job because of applying background checks and whatever, and you get the job.
	Are you working throughout the pandemic?
	Yeah, so with all of the federal government agencies now, they all strictly observe all of the protocols for the whole management of COVID, right?
	There was times when, well, just to back up for a little bit, I was still in the regular army in March 2020.
	And like everybody else in the federal government, we took that two-week flatten the curve period and everybody stayed home.
	And then, you know, with the...
	Excuse me while I navigate this terrain here.
	Sorry, are you still hearing me all right?
	Oh yeah, no, that's perfect.
	I mean, I love it.
	I know I've driven through the Rocky Mountains.
	It's the most beautiful place on earth.
	I've just never walked it.
	Yeah, so we're walking a pretty good path here.
	But yeah, so over the two years was something challenging to deal with.
	But yeah, there was that first period where Within the federal government services, you know, there was the flatten the curve part.
	And then with the various spikes and variants, various variants, excuse me.
	We had all of the, you know, go back or part-time to kind of manage whatever they thought was happening there.
	But yeah, I was working for the most part.
	And so you only get placed on unpaid leave for declining to comply with the mandate.
	You get put on that unpaid leave in early 2021 or is it late 2021?
	Yeah, middle of November.
	November the 15th was our deadline.
	So, uh, that was when I was told on, uh, by the, by the, um, the inspector in charge of PRTC that due to my, uh, I didn't, I hadn't changed my vaccination status.
	And, uh, that was, that was going to be, uh, placed on unpaid leave from November the 12th, actually.
	I think you mentioned it.
	PRTC stands for what again?
	Provincial Regional Training Center.
	Okay.
	Unpaid leave.
	So, I mean, I pulled up the comment because someone says, you know, 25 years of active duty and then, you know, enter civilian life, two years or a year of work and then placed on administrative, unpaid administrative leave because you refuse, you know, you decline to accept an imposed mandate.
	Do they tell you it's, I mean, I know the legalities and the nonsense of it, but do they tell you it's temporary?
	Like, you'll come back as soon as you change your mind or as soon as the law changes?
	Yeah, no, they made it fairly clear that you can go back to work, just go take care of the shot, right?
	Yeah.
	And so you say, I mean, look, you seem like a relatively defiant person in general, and I say that in a good way.
	Defiance is not a bad quality, necessarily.
	So I presume you then say, well, this is not going to change.
	At some point, do they notify you that you're Permanently on unpaid leave?
	It's possible.
	Like, nobody has contacted me directly.
	I'm not at home now, so my sister's checking my mail.
	I should probably check in with her and see if anything officially showed up.
	But, yeah, as far as I understand it, I'm still on unpaid leave.
	But with regards to the military and my being released from the reserves...
	Is that something that's still ongoing?
	Alright, so this happens now.
	From my understanding...
	Oh, by the way, just to share an anecdote.
	Apparently, Tom Morazzo, I asked him if I could share the story.
	He said the first time he exploded C4 was with you.
	Yeah, that's true.
	We split some stuff up real good.
	Tom Morazzo, I interviewed him two weeks ago.
	Where was it that you had this experience with C4?
	Yeah, we were...
	In the Army, especially in the infantry, we have a sub-trade that's called Assault Pioneers.
	So the infantry has its kind of integral, what you call, engineer asset in an infantry battalion, and they are otherwise known as Assault Pioneers.
	So they're infantrymen trained in the use of explosives and other kind of equipment to assist in demolition tasks or mobility tasks that might arise.
	When an infantry battalion is on the advance.
	So, without going into it too much, that probably sounds like a gobbledygook, but basically, you learn how to use explosives, chainsaws, jackhammers, and other equipment to either build stuff or get it out of your way.
	So, we were on an assault pioneer course on the base, Canadian Forces Base, Meaford, Ontario.
	And, yeah.
	Blew some soft prop.
	Pretty fun.
	It's got to be fun.
	Explosives.
	It's an interesting thing to experience.
	Now, getting into this.
	You're put on unpaid leave in November.
	Were you in...
	You were not in Ottawa for the convoy protests.
	No.
	What are you doing during the convoy?
	Are you watching this from...
	I guess at this time you're in Vancouver?
	Okay, well, I'll just explain this part really clearly here.
	Well, we got some kind of breaking traffic.
	In November, I had both of those things happen to me.
	I got placed on unpaid leave from a job I really liked.
	I really liked that job working for the RCMP.
	It was the best job I've ever had.
	You know, coming from the military, going to a job that was, you know, 7.30 to 3.30.
	It was kind of like a dream job for me where, you know, I still had the ability to work with professionals in uniform, be able to handle firearms, do some shooting on the odd occasion, right?
	Having lost that job or getting placed on unpaid leave, and then have the military inform me that they're going to be releasing me on an item 5F.
	Well, that's the kind of release item we used to use for dudes who couldn't show up or work on time, who are chronically late or couldn't give up certain things such as a drinking or a gambling addiction or something like that, right?
	Not to say that those aren't issues that people have to deal with, and we help them as much as we can, but this was just, you know, to have to deal with something like that, it devastated me in a way I can't even put it into words.
	I was utterly...
	Beside myself.
	I don't know how to describe it.
	And if I may ask you, I think item 5E is what it's called.
	5F.
	5F.
	Item 5F.
	Repeated refusal to correct problematic behavior, simply put.
	Yes.
	The way it's worded is an inability.
	Or you guys just move on.
	Yeah, we're kind of like on the highway here.
	I got to look out for my fireteam partner holding the camera here.
	Totally.
	Don't worry about it.
	So, the actual warning escaped me at the moment.
	Anybody can look it up.
	It's quite easy to find.
	Setting aside the warning, the issue is it's behavioral and there's no...
	Warning process or no appeals process?
	They flat out say after 25 years, you're out on a 5S.
	Well, no, there is a warning process, which is one of the reasons why I got my face in a knot about it, was because after, you know, having spent much luck, like I said, I was kind of a...
	There's no other way to describe it.
	Like, I got in trouble a couple of times as a young dude.
	I was given the opportunity to set myself straight, which I did.
	And I spent, you know, over 20 years being a good soldier and then having them come back at me and then say, we're going to start this process of your release, which involves a series of warnings.
	And the process goes like this.
	You get one recorded warning, and this is where your supervisor notifies you that there's this problem behavior that you have to correct.
	And then you get a number of days to change your behavior.
	Then you get a second recorded warning, and then you get a number of days to change your behavior.
	Then you get what's put on counseling and probation, and then 14 days after that, if you haven't changed your behavior.
	You get what's called a notice of intent to release.
	And that lasts for 14 days.
	And if you haven't indicated for some reason, if you haven't changed your behavior or made a good cause or case for why you shouldn't be released, then you're out.
	So that's the various stages of this release process.
	And so right now I'm on...
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I was going to say, so the various warnings that you got...
	Were they all related to failure to submit to this mandate, or did they go back and rehash things that you did 20 years ago?
	No, no, no, no.
	That stuff is all gone because when you get into trouble in the military, that stuff stays on your personnel record.
	But if you apply for a pardon, then that stuff gets taken off.
	Let's see what I'm looking for here.
	Redacted.
	Okay.
	So it doesn't come back to haunt you.
	And I'll say, so it wasn't a fabricated notice of dismissal or whatever the term is.
	This was, they took the same incident and said, here's your first warning.
	Here's your second warning.
	You haven't yet complied with the mandate.
	Therefore, you're out.
	In a nutshell, yeah.
	And this is all related to the mandate.
	One in the same act and nothing else.
	There's a distinction to be made here with this in that there's some certain wording that's involved here.
	And if you don't know anything about the military or the minister or the Department of National Defence, okay, so there's the Chief of Defence Staff.
	The Chief of Defence Staff is the top general in the Canadian Armed Forces.
	And he, with his command team partner, the Minister of National Defense, they run the entire team.
	And when I say run, okay, I use it as colloquialism, if you will.
	But they are the command team of the Department of National Defense.
	So you have the Minister of National Defense, he's the civilian side.
	And then you have the Chief of Defense Staff, he's your top general.
	So he's the one.
	And I say he because at the time of this was Major General Wayne Ayer.
	He's the one that issues the order that all members of the Canadian Armed Forces will have this medical procedure.
	So the distinction to be made here is that it's not necessarily I'm being released for not following this order.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, no, for sure.
	And then my other question is, If you're no longer on active duty and you're on the reserves now, you still need to comply with these orders, notwithstanding that distinction of service?
	Well, that's the thing about the reserves.
	So you're only on duty in the reserves when you're getting paid.
	Okay.
	But because you're still a member of the Canadian Armed Forces and I'm not submitted to this order, then I will be released from the reserves.
	How many other members of the military, members of the reserves had a similar thing, experienced a similar termination?
	Well, this is the thing.
	Before all this started, I wasn't on Facebook or I didn't maintain a lot of contact with guys still serving.
	The numbers, I don't think the numbers are...
	Are published as to how many are actually being released or have accepted a release or put in a voluntary because of this?
	I just don't know.
	I know that in my reserve unit in BC here, there's one other guy who is in the same position I am.
	Okay, so now, November, you are put on unpaid leave from your job.
	When do you get the 5F discharge?
	Shortly thereafter?
	Well, that process is still ongoing, just to be clear.
	So, like, I had to go sign my first recorded warning, second recorded warning, counselling and probation.
	I have received my notice of intent from the Canadian Armed Forces.
	To release.
	So they're going to release me pending the file being reviewed in headquarters in Ottawa.
	Okay.
	So that 5F release is ongoing right now.
	Okay.
	Noted.
	And now...
	What do you do between November and the Ottawa protest?
	I'm sure you saw the Ottawa protest.
	I'll tell you exactly what I was wallowing in self-pity and not being very happy.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	So after seeing what happened in Ottawa with regards to...
	The truckers and the whole Freedom Convoy thing, that's what really revitalized me in a way.
	Because it helped me kind of...
	It just injected new life into me.
	It was like, you know, you had this sense that there was other people kind of in the same position, banding together, doing something.
	and that
	When I saw that happening it really ejected new life into me and I will say that one of the things that happened when I was placed on unpaid leave and I had all this other stuff and then around the middle of January I got a job as a tow truck driver in my town of Hope there and that's really one of the things that kind of brought me around.
	Because for the first time, I had started to see what happens in the civilian sector.
	When you are in the armed forces, you're kind of like in a little subset of society.
	You're protected in a lot of ways.
	So having seen how hard people work, In the civilian sector, like the Canadian public, I'm saying now, and then to see a segment of the population of the Canadian public go to Ottawa, be ignored, and then be insulted, that just didn't sit square with me.
	Not as somebody who was working for the federal government in the armed forces, right?
	So there was that.
	There was two things that happened now.
	I was subsequently inspired and also outraged.
	So all this kind of stuff.
	I brought up George Smith's super chat only to say, set up a go F me.
	Only give send go people.
	But we'll get to how you can support James sooner than later.
	Only gives them go.
	Never again GoFundMe.
	For anybody.
	For me, personally.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Carry on there.
	I'm sorry I interrupted you.
	Yeah, no worries.
	So there was just this kind of perfect storm of things that happened.
	And it really was this kind of transformational experience in a lot of ways.
	Because, like I said, everything that inspired me to do this...
	it was kind of a lot of it was done on instinct and uh it just like a lot of things have come together in a really strange way that uh i just i can't describe it like i go out on february the 12th in uniform make an announcement um knowing that it would be highly visible i i had i had made a tick tock video gone to a rally in full uniform knowing that it would attract attention The
	professionally made video.
	I didn't know the gentleman.
	I just walked into the rally.
	I saw a dude with a really professional camera.
	I walked up to him and he's like, "Hey, can I record you?" I'm like, "Hell yeah." So I did the thing.
	He takes the video.
	Does an awesome job of it.
	And his name is...
	It's a play on his...
	He's a European gentleman.
	His first name is Nem, and he has a play on his channel called Scenomatic, with N-E-M in the middle.
	And that's what attracted a bunch of attention.
	Next thing I know, a bunch of people want to assist me or take part or something.
	Watch out.
	So it just started from there.
	And then February 20th, I announced I'm going to leave.
	And I go down to the Terry Fox Memorial.
	And there's like 100 people there.
	Let me ask you, you mentioned something.
	You said you were in self-pity mode as of November.
	I'm going to ask the question, do I presume you're in not healthy type mental and physical and behavioral stuff at that point in time?
	Absolutely.
	And so now you see what happens in Ottawa and you get out of your slumber.
	Yeah.
	Look, I'm smiling every time a car honks their horns because it's ridiculous.
	Like, at the end of the day, people, we are ants on a big, big, shiny globe, but we have one...
	If you go back up to space, you have an individual human walking through the mountains of British Columbia, and people are honking in large numbers.
	That's how amazing this all is.
	I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore, but I'm not going to take it out of myself.
	I'm going to get up and literally start walking.
	We're going to get in bed.
	100%.
	Also, when I saw it as this is a demonstration of what a person can do in a constructive way, in a way that we can re-bridge certain gaps.
	Rebuild certain relationships.
	And it's not about me, you know.
	I'm not here to rant and rave about how we got here.
	That's not what I'm doing.
	I got a plan on how to bring stuff back together and repair it.
	So, an obvious question.
	You lose your job.
	You're on unpaid leave.
	What are you doing for finances?
	I mean, you have a home, you have a mortgage, you have bills to pay.
	What are you doing for finances?
	What sort of...
	Do you get cut off from any pension that you would have otherwise had from the military pending this 5F process?
	Or are you still, at the very least, getting something there?
	Okay, so yeah, upon my completion of...
	So I have what's called broken service.
	And I had a contract.
	I let it expire.
	I rejoined the Army.
	So altogether, my service totals 28 years, which I repaid, right?
	So I repaid this pension that I paid into from 1990 to 1993.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah.
	So I have 28 years worth of pensionable time, and I'm collecting that now.
	Is it something that is under threat of all of this business?
	Possibly.
	But just to put it into context, Do you know who Russell Williams is?
	Let me say yes so I don't look stupid, but then ask who it is for those who don't know.
	In 2010, he's an Air Force colonel.
	In 2010, he was convicted of murder of three ladies in Ontario.
	He was released in short order after he was found guilty.
	As I understand it, he's still collecting his pension.
	If they're going to take my pension away, then we've got a serious problem here.
	For the time being, however, thank goodness for small blessings.
	Still got it?
	I am collecting my pension.
	And that is due to...
	So that's paying a mortgage on my house.
	Prior to me embarking on this particular journey here, I did work for approximately about a month at a tow truck concern.
	In Hope, British Columbia, which is like where I said I had really come to the realization of how hard people work to put food on the table.
	Sorry, I just want to look at this.
	No, it's absolutely stunning.
	Oh yeah, there's a little lake house down there or something.
	But yeah, so I am getting a pension.
	That's paying my mortgage.
	Going forward on this particular journey here, I have absorbed a little bit of debt and I was okay with that because my conflict arises in this whole endeavor here that I'm doing.
	I had initially announced I was going to do this on my own dime.
	But I had originally planned to just be me and maybe one other person.
	But now there's more of us involved.
	So here's the question.
	If this is anything like the convoy, in a sense, is that the more people know about it, the more people are going to either want to do something similar.
	Look, they didn't like trucks parked on Wellington, so maybe if you arrive on your two feet, the government will have less of a problem with it.
	I don't want to ask for people, but...
	You're doing this.
	If people say I want to join and it becomes a convoy of humans, is that something on your own particular mission you'd be interested in or is this very much an individual thing?
	Just to clarify, this mission that I'm embarking on at a very clear beginning and end point.
	So I started at the Terry Fox Memorial for personal reasons.
	Because it is...
	Terry Fox was alive and doing the business when I was a kid, right?
	And it was the furthest, it was kind of easy, identifiable feature that I could meet up with folks saying, okay, well, this is where I'm going to start my journey.
	I'm going to end it in a tune with the Unknown Soldier because that's my heritage.
	That's, you know...
	That site was kind of desecrated.
	As far as I'm concerned, back in January.
	And I want to fix that.
	But it also has personal meaning to me.
	So both these sites in the country of ours have personal meaning to me and they're connected in that way.
	So I'm going to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
	I'm going to take my flag that I was given on my...
	retirement from the regular army i'm gonna put it down there and um That's how that part of the mission is going to end.
	I had also wanted to awaken, even though I was so inspired by also the response of veterans going out and taking part in these protests as well.
	I had, and then seeing what happened at the war memorial under orders from our government, I had wanted to kind of get the veteran community involved in this as well, as much as they are able to, even though I know that I'm in a unique position to do this because, you know, I got that pension.
	It's paying my mortgage.
	I don't have any kids or anything so if that you know I had wanted other veterans to be a part of this, and they're still able to.
	The issue with it now is that there's nine of us all together.
	Two of the folks who joined us have their own vehicles, and the rest of us are living out of the RV.
	We have accommodations.
	Lined up for the most part.
	You know, various town halls or people open their basements to us and stuff like that.
	But we're topped out now of the number of people that we can accept given the vehicles that we have, right?
	So, logistically speaking, we're topped out.
	But if a couple of dudes want to team up, show up with a vehicle ready to do the business of marching, then As long as they're aware of the fact that this isn't a paid gig.
	I'm not here to make money.
	I'm not here to be a celebrity.
	I got a job to do.
	That's what it's about.
	Really.
	Two questions.
	First of all, are you allowed walking?
	It's one thing for you to be walking on the side of the highway with one to three people, but if too many people start doing it, that's how you get...
	Well, I think so.
	I mean, I see cyclists going on the side of the highway on a fairly regular basis, so I don't know why it would be any different for us.
	I haven't gotten any tickets.
	I'm exercising my right as a Canadian citizen to protest.
	I'm doing this as a part of...
	Yeah, this is my...
	I'm exercising my right to protest.
	So, okay, let's just jump over the thing.
	We've got a white coat coming up here.
	Stop.
	While you do that, I'm going to bring up this chat from Darcy C., who says, I am first.
	You honor me by carrying feathers on your journey.
	Thank you very much.
	May the creator guide you.
	You, James Topp, I can lead you.
	That was the oversized load, the first truck and the second, the front truck and the last truck to let it go in there.
	Yes, thank you for that.
	Yeah, so just to go back to Darcy there, tell him I said hi and thank you very much.
	These are all the stuff that were things that were given to me by people who are really excited about what I'm doing, like the feathers this year.
	Right here is given to me by a lady in Hope, an Indigenous lady, Indigenous lady, and this is the veteran, the Indigenous Canadian veteran community that was made on behalf of the Legion, right?
	Honoring the Indigenous veteran community.
	So these are all things that are important to me as well.
	But to go back to your question, no, I haven't gotten a ticket.
	We are a fairly small group right now.
	If there's more groups and more people want to take part, then we'll manage it accordingly.
	And what will probably happen is we'll get what we call subunits going on.
	Yeah.
	Well, and I presume, first of all, where people can track you in real time on the website?
	That's right.
	Okay.
	So I think March is...
	CanadaMarches.ca.
	CanadaMarches.ca and it's one word.
	Okay, and I put it as the pinned comment in the chat.
	Hold on, I just lost myself here.
	Second thing, I presume you give a heads up when you get to town so that people who want to walk with you through the town can do it much more easily than on the side of the highway.
	Yeah.
	So it's...
	For example, watch out for that group.
	For example, we're heading to Cranbrook.
	A little bit later this afternoon and uh we've already been in contact with some representatives of the various you know kind of freedom communities there and they're going to meet us at the visitor center and then from there I can kind of gather everybody um put them in a formation because this isn't just about us you know the more people that we get it's not just about us kind of gaggling as we call it in the military We're
	not a gang.
	This is a formed body of people.
	This is a formation.
	And we're going forward with a specific purpose.
	And that purpose is reminding representatives in our government of who they actually work for.
	Fantastic.
	And I have two more questions on that issue.
	Here's the reality.
	You are raising money, and you might raise a little more than you intended to.
	Where can people donate?
	And if you get to a certain amount, what are you going to do with these funds?
	The expectation might be that you have to do certain things with it, but what's your intention with any excess funds or with any funds that you raise?
	Yeah, right.
	So a good question.
	This is going to be, like I said, with this here.
	This is a demonstration of a couple of different things.
	So, as we saw with our federal leadership, when the truckers arrived in Ottawa, we saw a demonstration of, I would say, less than stellar leadership.
	Do you agree?
	That would be putting it mildly.
	I'll get my ranting after we're done with our interview here.
	So, there's that.
	So, this is a demonstration of how to lead.
	So you lead from the front, you lead by example, and then with regards to finances, like I said, I'm conflicted about accepting people's money, but here's what's going to happen.
	They're funding us now, going to Ottawa, and we are going to have an open account, open transparent account in as much as possible.
	Anybody who wants to know what our finances are, how much we got, what we're spending on, I'm more than able to have a look at that because this is what it's about, open, honest communication, transparent finances, anything that we get above and beyond what we put into this.
	Like, for example, the RV that we're using, I went in...
	I went in...
	What would I have my savings into that?
	And I still owe the owner.
	He's just letting me use it.
	But it's still under his name.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I still owe him with RV.
	And then anything that we have left over, we'll go to Wounded Warriors.
	Fantastic.
	There's also the reality that, James, at the end of this, you may be living off the pension, but you may not have a job, nonetheless, until the federal government I think it's nobody's business to fault you if you actually say, look, I may need this for the rest of my life.
	You spend 25 years in the military, then you get a good job with the government that employs your military skills.
	Once the government writes you out of that, you've got a big uphill battle.
	We overcome now at a certain age, at a certain training, with a certain life experience.
	So that's my parentheses caveat to what you're doing.
	Okay.
	Hold on for a sec.
	Another oversized load here.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Well, I haven't really put much thought into that aspect of it.
	I just want folks to know that we're doing what certain people in various positions within authority are not, as far as I'm concerned.
	Here's my question.
	People who have not done these long-distance things might not have any similar experience.
	Once upon a time, I used to do these Spartan races, but the long ones, like 50km.
	It was like 46km races.
	You start at 5 in the morning, you finish if you're lucky, period.
	But you finish if you're lucky by 8 at night.
	In the context of one massive day, you actually go through these mini-cycles of emotional ups and downs where you think you know exactly what you're doing.
	Then you have these pictures of despair where you're like, what the hell am I doing?
	The journey thus far, you know, it's been however long a month now, but also on a daily basis, what are your ups and downs and swings in terms of psychological, emotional thoughts and feelings?
	Overwhelmingly positive for the most part.
	I mean, it's just like you said, you get to these points where you're like, okay, what the hell am I doing here and how did I get here?
	And then, you know, that...
	The reality is that we're doing what we're doing.
	And then you meet people like...
	I'll just wait until the truck passes.
	Folks pull over and they're so excited.
	And they're so happy that we're doing what we're doing.
	It's overwhelming.
	Let me ask a stupid question that I might already know the answer to.
	Has the CBC contacted you?
	Has any legacy Canadian media outlet contacted you?
	They have.
	That was back in the beginning.
	So once I made that TikTok video, watch out, and then they went and then the video from the rally got released.
	I got contacted by a reporter from CBC.
	But at that particular point in time, knowing what I know about the CBC and how they had treated the Truckers Convoy and the Freedom, sorry, the Truckers Movement and the Freedom Convoy, I was hesitant to kind of go forward with any type of interview.
	And since then, I haven't really heard from them.
	Well, I would say one thing.
	I would say, In general, I understand everybody's reluctance, everybody's sentiments when dealing with what have historically proven themselves to be utterly dishonest in media outlets.
	The one thing you can do, I mean, I would say everyone should, nonetheless, if the interview opportunity comes up, do it.
	Because, you know, a hit piece from the CBC is still a knock in the cap.
	I would just do it and ask that you record it live so that if they do something that you think is unfair, you have your own recording to then...
	No, because at the time, they were seizing all the money from the GoFund...
	GoFundMe.
	If CBC is watching and if anybody's out there, tag the CBC, tag Global News, tag any one of the Canadian media outlets.
	They should do this and I think you should do it.
	Do the interview and see how they possibly try to edit, warp, ask you any sort of loaded question.
	You know where they're going to go.
	Some people are going to say, James...
	Just comply with the mandate, and if you shouldn't, why should you not be compelled to comply with something under these circumstances?
	What would be your retort to that?
	Just comply.
	You're in the military.
	You do what the government says.
	You're a brave man.
	You've been to peacekeeping in Yugoslavia.
	Bite the bullet.
	I mean, how do you respond?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	And the answer is no, I will not just blindly follow orders.
	I'm allowed to ask questions.
	I'm allowed to have concerns, despite the fact that I'm in the Armed Forces.
	I can tell you I know exactly what the difference is between the current round of medical procedures and the previous rounds of medical procedures that I've had to endure.
	The fact of the matter is that the current one is still experimental.
	And previous medical interventions I've had to receive prior to deployment have been tried, tested and true.
	As part of the military, you have to get a bunch of vaccines, anthrax, all that stuff as part of military service?
	Yeah, there is a requirement depending on your immunization requirements.
	But like I said, the difference is that This is a product now without the benefit of any long-term studies.
	And by the way, I'm going to reiterate the no medical advice, but we can just go ahead and refer to the words of the Pfizer CEO, Albert.
	What's his name?
	Someone in the chat, remind me of what his name is, where he recently gave a number of interviews that, you know, to quote Adam Sandworth, these are things that I would have liked to have known a year ago.
	Things he could have told me yesterday.
	We'll start winding it up.
	People should know where to find you.
	I'm going to post all the links to your social in the pinned comment here.
	One thing you should be doing, or at least thinking about doing, is do your own live streams whenever you reach destinations.
	An arrival live stream and then maybe a morning live stream before you hit the road because people want to keep track of this.
	It would be beautiful to see.
	You know, what you're experiencing at your daily end destination along the way.
	Sure.
	To your team, think about it.
	It would be great.
	I mean, I see you're posting good updates, short videos, but live stream, take questions.
	People would love it.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Candice Magnus agrees.
	And so right now you're going to walk what?
	You're just going to walk for the rest of the day.
	Do you walk at night?
	No.
	No, we...
	We did that while we were walking through Vancouver for a little bit, just to meet a certain distance gateway.
	But I'm not going to jeopardize anybody's safety walking at night.
	Like, you know, we got...
	I think that's one of the reasons why we're kind of flying under the radar, so to speak.
	We have, like, so I got safety vehicles.
	Got to give them warning.
	When we come around corners, I got a fellow up front with the safety vest on, right?
	So...
	Yeah, people don't appreciate it.
	I'm not going to...
	I'm not going to overdo it by walking at night.
	I think it's the smart thing.
	There's no need to do it anyhow.
	What has been, I mean, how many days have you been walking now for?
	It's been a month?
	Yeah, 31 days.
	31 days.
	What have been, if you have more than one, what have been the most memorable experiences, things that you've seen above and beyond the support, above and beyond the people?
	Have you seen, like, baby bears walking across the street?
	Have you seen moose?
	Have you seen a hawk, like, attacking another bird out of the sky?
	Yeah, no, the whole, like, every day is something different, but I have to say, like, there were times when I didn't really know how the day was going to end, but just being able to go in slow motion and, like, well, look at the view!
	Was that love or hate, James, that you just got?
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was love.
	Oh, by the way, have you gotten any hate?
	Has anyone flipped you the bird as they drive by?
	Yeah, but I mean, I don't know.
	It bothers me in a way because I can't understand it.
	Why it would bother anybody, what I'm doing.
	But on the other hand, it's like, I don't know.
	You're the one that's got to look at yourself in the mirror, not me.
	Look, I tend to be forgiving and attributed to displaced anxiety.
	People have been under tremendous stress and they just don't know where to unleash if I want to be forgiving.
	If I want to be judgmental, I think people are just...
	They're jealous of other people exercising their freedoms because they've compromised their own existence and now they're resentful of other people who haven't.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That's good.
	And the other thing is people just look at you and they must believe some of the tropes about you that so many believed about Ottawa.
	And they look at that Canadian flag and they say, that Canadian flag, now seeing it held with pride, actually makes people angry, which is the ultimate irony and probably the only useful thing that Justin Trudeau has done as Prime Minister.
	When do you stop to eat lunch?
	Yeah, probably another 45 minutes or so.
	We're not doing too bad for distance.
	We got 9k on the clock.
	We've got another 20 to go or so.
	So we'll probably take a break in another half hour, 45 minutes.
	Now, let me ask you the totally crass question that somebody asked and I've got to ask.
	Peeing is no problem, but if you have to do your business, port-a-potties or one of those people on baggies?
	Yeah, well, I'll tell you what.
	I'll tell you what, when I thought about that, like, you know, there are aspects of this that are kind of been done on instinct and flying by the sea of our pants, but I'm kind of familiar with this type of activity through years in the military and, you know, logistical concerns such as bodily function were definitely something we took into consideration, which is one of the reasons I put 10 grand down on an RV that I can't really afford, but that's why we do the business on the road.
	And that makes sense.
	For the world out there who already knows, I have been told I have IBS by a gastroenterologist for whatever IBS is worth.
	These are more of a concern for some people than others, but when you get into the groove, your body adapts with you.
	I imagine, James, whatever your regular habits are, they've slowed down or they've become much more predictable and easier to manage.
	Look how beautiful it is.
	Could the cameraman do another 360, a very slow one, just because I see...
	You want you to do another 360.
	Just the snow tops in the back there.
	Yep.
	I tell you, not that Canada is more beautiful than other countries.
	Most countries are objectively beautiful.
	I think there are very few that are objectively not beautiful, but we have one of the most beautiful countries on Earth, and it would be exponentially more beautiful, but for the...
	But for the politicians.
	If I have IBS and I have a leaky gut, fix it and you'll be fine.
	Alright.
	In the chat, super chat or not, if I did not get to a question that anybody has in the chat, let's do it and then we're going to leave James in peace.
	James, we'll check in on each other periodically and then I'm going to go talk about Jagmeet Singh forming the...
	I won't get into the rant yet.
	I want to leave on a good note with James.
	Let's see if there's any questions in the chat that I have not gotten to.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you for the inspiration, hope, and integrity, and thank you, Viva, for doing this.
	Sorry, thank you, James, for the inspiration.
	Walking is good for IBS.
	Get yourselves on the ground, Viva.
	Well, I exercise daily and obsessively, but stop eating gluten.
	Okay, well, we'll deal with my IBS later, guys.
	I do everything that is bad if you have IBS.
	I binge eat.
	I drink coffee.
	I enjoy a snifter of port at Christmas.
	Everything I do is wrong, and I don't pay attention to the foods.
	Okay, let's leave that alone.
	And let me just see while we're here if I missed anything on the rumble rants.
	James, this morning I dumped my car off to have the winter tires changed, and I walked back.
	It was five and a half kilometers, and I'm going to walk there.
	I'm going to walk back as a tribute, but then I'll get on the treadmill and do my standard.
	You know, 8K.
	There's 2,000 in the chats.
	Well, there's 2,500 on YouTube watching you.
	There's over 1,000 on Rumble.
	So, James, we got, you know, 3,600 people watching live as you walk across the country.
	I mean, let me ask you a stupid question.
	You're doing this hell or high water.
	There's nothing, you know, that's pretty unforeseeable.
	There was a cough.
	You're doing it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The only thing to stop me is death or serious illness or natural disaster.
	Does James need any more bacon?
	Well, I'm sure if...
	What's the next town you're going to hit?
	Cranbrook.
	Cranbrook, British Columbia.
	Cranbrook, British Columbia.
	So if anybody...
	I don't know how many cookies you can eat, but the good thing about doing what you're doing is you can eat like a beast and you won't put any on the hips.
	Po-po cheering.
	Respect.
	I just want to put something out there.
	So we're marching, and it's not walking.
	It just looks like we're walking now.
	We're taking it easy.
	But typically, we're going at 5K an hour right now.
	We're usually doing around 5.5 to 6. And most of the time, we're not able to speak because we're marching, right?
	So we walk to the store, we're marching to Ottawa.
	It's fantastic.
	And I was going to say, it's mountainous, so it's nice to talk and walk when you're walking downhill, but walking uphill with a 35-pound pack...
	Alright, James, I'm not going to go anywhere.
	I'm going to take James out.
	He's going to get back to it, and I'm going to just go over some Twitter.
	Dagmeet Singh, Justin Trudeau, Coalition Government.
	James, leave us with a message.
	What's something you want to say that we haven't said yet?
	Absolutely.
	I'm doing this too so that all Canadians everywhere, I just have this to ask of you.
	I just have this to ask of you.
	Please stop telling yourself what you can't do and start asking yourself what you can do.
	I like it.
	James, we're going to stay in touch.
	Everyone stick around.
	I'm going to go over some ranty McStuff after this.
	James, enjoy it.
	I say be safe as in just, you know, Pay attention to the road because I used to road bike, but road biking on the highway always made me too nervous to even do for fun.
	So just stay vigilant of cars and people falling asleep behind the wheel.
	Keep an eye out for bears.
	Not out of the bad sense, but for awesome stuff.
	Take pictures of amazing things you see.
	Post them to social.
	Keep everyone up to date of where you are, but also the beauty that is our country.
	Will do.
	And James, thank you for your service.
	I mean, look, I've never done it.
	I don't think I could have survived it, but maybe I'm being too weak on myself.
	Maybe I could have.
	But thank you and all the veterans for your service.
	It's something that a lot of people say reflexively, don't necessarily appreciate until they've had these types of discussions, and then others just don't appreciate it because they take their very existence for granted.
	James, thank you.
	I'm going to bring you out, and we'll be in touch.
	Sounds good.
	It was good talking to you.
	I hope we can talk again.
	Absolutely.
	Have a good day.
	People, that was fantastic.
	It's two hours.
	Two hours just flies by, and now you know who James is.
	There was stuff I could have, if I wanted, to go a little Oprah on James.
	I know I had some follow-up questions, but I don't want...
	There's two things.
	I don't want...
	I know when there's more to delve into, but I don't want a detour that might be uncomfortable for the individual who has graciously accepted to come on my channel and do it.
	But there's some backstory there, and it's interesting.
	But also, it is the backstory.
	I don't know it.
	I'm only imagining what it could be.
	But it's the backstory that sets the backdrop for the current story.
	And James, right now, obviously, motivation, determination, and passion.
	And, you know, it's everyone's life experience that leads them to where they are at any given point in time.
	And I can still see them in the background.
	I can still see where they're walking.
	I'm just going to keep them connected so I can see.
	But where I'm going to share now, people, we're going to go to Twitter.
	What do I have up on Twitter?
	The James March.
	Okay, I'm going to post all the links there afterwards.
	I'm just looking at my notes, which is...
	Here we go.
	Let's share this one.
	People, you all heard the news that Jagmeet Singh and the NDP have announced, I don't know if the technical word is a coalition government, but they are going to work with Justin Trudeau from here until 2025.
	Wait until we get into this, the absolute shameless, boldface hypocrisy.
	Of an individual now saying, I am literally going to work with the individual who I literally publicly accused of rigging the system, divisive, un-Canadian discourse, and a slew of other insults that preclude anyone from actually later saying, maybe they're not so bad.
	The only reason Jagmeet Singh is now saying, maybe Justin Trudeau's not so bad is because he sees that proverbial ring.
	He's like, why shouldn't I have this ring?
	Why shouldn't I keep it?
	When I ran for office, this is a true story.
	For anyone who's been around the channel for long enough, you know this.
	I ran for federal office for the People's Party of Canada in Westmount NDG.
	I said I would run for the country before I ran from the country because I was going to put my voice out there once and for all and try to cure the problem before making my life decisions as a result, consequently.
	But when I ran for office, this is a true story.
	I ran in Westmount.
	Westmount NDG.
	But Westmount, notoriously liberal.
	The riding itself, notoriously liberal.
	53% voted for Mark Garneau of the Liberal Party.
	That's 53% of Westmount NDG.
	And it's worth noting, Westmount has, I think, the highest GDP of any municipality in Canada.
	If that might explain a few things.
	53% voted liberal.
	When I was running and I was going door to door to try to get signatures, it was a tedious thing to try to get signatures because people would say, I don't like the PPC.
	I was told they're racist, misogynist, xenophobe and whatever.
	They said, I'm voting for the NDP out of protest.
	And I said to them in real time, if you are voting for the NDP out of protest, you're not protest voting the way you think you're protest voting.
	You are voting for an entity which is, by and large, a variation of what you're protesting against, except maybe less corrupt, only because they haven't actually had the position to be in power to be corrupt.
	When I ran for office last federal election, many people in my writing told me they were voting NDP out of protest because they hated Justin Trudeau and Liberal Party.
	I told them they were just voting for an equally awful Trudeau variant, which I kind of like that Trudeau variant.
	It might even be...
	Trendable.
	Today I can formally say, I told you so.
	Because today, or yesterday, I think it was this morning they had a press conference, but bottom line, Jagmeet Singh has decided that the Liberal government and Justin Trudeau are people trustworthy enough that they can work with.
	They're people who, they share sufficiently similar values that they can work together now, until 2025.
	Jagmeet Singh says, Justin Trudeau is someone who he can work with, that they can work together, and they can be effectively a single entity.
	That's Jagmeet Singh, who had some interesting things to say about Justin Trudeau, one of which was...
	I've just been like...
	How do I get back to my feed here?
	Let me go back to my feed.
	Not Jagmeet Singh's feed.
	Let's just go V. Viva Fry.
	Is that going to bring me to my feed?
	Yeah, there we go.
	I said that it might be time for people to go screen grab things that Jagmeet Singh...
	It's about time for everyone to go and screen grab all the tweets in which Jagmeet Singh accuses Justin Trudeau of corruption, incompetence, lack of ethics, divisiveness, etc.
	You are who you support, and it seems Jagmeet Singh has become the corruption of which he complained.
	And...
	I mean, let's just give a few examples because I googled and then stopped.
	Parliament, this is from, when is this from?
	June 7th.
	So that's going to be, I don't know, eight months ago.
	Parliament has passed by motion calling on Justin Trudeau to stop taking Indigenous kids and residential school survivors to court.
	The vote was 267 to 0. Liberal cabinet refused to vote yes.
	Let's...
	Appreciate what Jagmeet Singh is saying right here.
	The Liberal government do not care about Indigenous people.
	So much so that they would fight their right to sue.
	I don't care that since this tweet occurred, the Liberal hypocrite government announced the largest settlement with the Indigenous community in the history of Canada, $40 billion, I think, to compensate for the historical wrongs that the government has committed against Indigenous people.
	Forget that part.
	Just appreciate.
	What Jagmeet Singh is saying of Justin Trudeau.
	Justin Trudeau didn't even bother to show up.
	He lacks ethics.
	He lacks principles.
	He's a coward.
	And he's immoral.
	And I'm just paraphrasing.
	Let's go to another one.
	No, what did I do here?
	Hold on.
	Let's just go to another one.
	Let's just get a few of the gems.
	A few of the gems.
	There were so many.
	It's just unbelievable.
	This is also from Jagmeet Singh.
	Justin Trudeau is cutting help for people in the middle of the fourth wave.
	While money continues to flow to megacorps, families and workers struggle to make ends meet.
	So Justin Trudeau is hurting the middle class.
	I'd say Jagmeet Singh is as well.
	He's a bad man.
	That's not the worst one.
	This one is from 2019.
	I'm sure Justin Trudeau has changed.
	It's even more clear now that Justin Trudeau is more interested in helping his wealthy and well-connected friends at the expense of Canadians.
	Plus ça change, plus ça reste le même.
	My God, I just screwed that up.
	Plus ça change, plus ça reste le même.
	The more things change, the more they stay the same.
	It's even more clear now that Justin Trudeau is more interested in helping his wealthy and well-connected friends at the expense of Well, guess what member of a club?
	You are now officially part of Jagmeet.
	Ah, this one's the best one.
	This is from 2020.
	Justin Trudeau's comments are dangerous and irresponsible.
	Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, according to Jagmeet Singh, sorry, his comments are dangerous and irresponsible.
	First, he said it was up to the provinces.
	Now he says the onus is on Indigenous peoples and the police.
	Echoing Andrew...
	He is dangerous and irresponsible.
	And now...
	Oh, here's another good one.
	This one's from more recent, 2021, February.
	Justin Trudeau just voted no to Pharmacare.
	Liberals just chose big pharma over Canadians again.
	Because it's happened before.
	They broke a promise for the 24th consecutive year.
	My goodness, you know what you should really do, Jagmeet Singh?
	You should go ahead and work with this government.
	You should team up with them because right now, I'm going to believe that you're going to change this as opposed to actually join this hashtag sarcasm.
	Millions can't afford their medications and we can help them.
	But the Liberals blocked it.
	I'm appalled.
	I'm so appalled.
	I'm gonna go work with them.
	I'm going to go promise that they stay in power until 2025.
	And recall, by the way, recall that this is the same Jagmeet Singh who, in the context of the debate on Justin Trudeau's unconstitutional invocation of the Emergencies Act, Jagmeet Singh, in his speech in which he ultimately voted for the Emergencies Act invocation, said the government has been incompetent, has mismanaged this entire panoramic, Pandemic has mismanaged this entire protest.
	So let's go ahead and give them these emergency, unbridled emergency powers.
	Let's go ahead and do that.
	Because that's always what you do to an incompetent, corrupt, immoral, dangerous government.
	You give them Emergencies Act powers.
	You know what it is?
	It's not that Jagmeet Singh has any faith in Trudeau.
	It's that he is probably, if I'm throwing out my own humble opinion, hashtag no defamation.
	He is no better, maybe worse, but we just don't know yet.
	Equally corrupt, equally immoral, equally divisive.
	Jagmeet Singh telling Justin Trudeau that he says divisive and irresponsible things.
	The Jagmeet Singh getting out there and saying, if you oppose mask mandates, you're selfish, right-wing extremists.
	And then getting caught not wearing a face mask a week later.
	Hypocrites.
	Corrupt, lying hypocrites.
	And all that Jagmeet Singh sees right now, his only way to stay in power, and Justin Trudeau's only way to stay in power, is to avoid another election.
	And the only way to stay in power right now is for these two equally immoral, corrupt politicians to join forces because they know darn well they are loathed by the people.
	And the only way to hold on to their power and to try to consolidate their power is to work together because that is actually, if this were a movie, that is actually what the evil forces do.
	Consolidate their evil forces so they can continue to hold on to these unprecedented powers.
	Continue to, you know, cling to that ring to the detriment of all of Canada.
	Oh yeah, not to mention that small connection.
	Jagmeet Singh.
	You know, let's just so that nobody thinks that we're actually not telling the truth here.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, people.
	It's actually shocking.
	It's just shocking.
	Let me just go to Google.
	Yes, people.
	Now nobody in the chat can say, go use DuckDuck, go.
	Yep.
	It's all equally corrupt.
	You just have to know what to do and where to go for the respective corruption.
	Let's share this.
	Let me make sure that we can see this.
	Just wait, people.
	Just wait.
	If you don't already know this, but I suspect, for the most part, everybody watching this channel already knows this.
	Watch this.
	Jagmeet Singh World Economic Forum.
	Look at that!
	Weform.org.
	Let's just go.
	Jagmeet Singh was born in Scarborough, Ontario, and spent time growing up on Canada's east coast before moving back to southern Ontario.
	As a kid, he often felt on the margins and left out.
	That made him more determined to be himself.
	Who wrote this?
	Grade sixer?
	That's why he grew up to defend the rights of others to be seen and heard for themselves.
	Yeah, he defended the rights of others to be seen and heard for themselves, except not seen and cover their faces and cover their mouths.
	And if they say that I don't necessarily want to do this to my body, to brand them as right-wing, selfish extremists who don't care about community and yada, yada, yada.
	And then he did it himself, by the way.
	Hashtag confession to rejection.
	Jagmeet went to law school.
	To stack his toolbox to fight the powerful forces of poverty and racism.
	As a lawyer, he knew he could help those with little power and money to assert their own rights.
	He campaigned with anti-poverty groups and immigration and refugee organizations.
	And it goes on.
	That's just one of the reasons why he wants to help others.
	As a leader of Canada's NDP, Jagmeet believes that how we pay for and deliver services to Canadians must work for everyone.
	But especially for the government.
	But that's not where it ends, people!
	That's not where it ends.
	Justin Trudeau.
	Hmm.
	Justin Trudeau is on the World Economic Forum.
	Justin Trudeau, born December 25, 1971, is Canada's 23rd Prime Minister.
	Justin's vision...
	What are these...
	What are these...
	Like, what are they on the website for?
	Why is the World Economic Forum featuring them?
	I'm going to figure this out in a second.
	The oldest of three boys...
	Justin grew up with the profound influence of his father, Pierre Elliott, and his mother, Margaret Trudeau.
	He was raised speaking both French and English and has family roots in both Eastern and Western Canada.
	The background helped spark his passion for public service and shaped his conviction that diversity is Canada's strength.
	Anybody who says diversity is our strength, I'm going to go ahead and say is weaponizing it, and either they do believe it or they believe in weaponizing it because...
	You don't need to say these things.
	Like, certain things, when you have to say, like, diversity is good, it means that there's a part of your brain that thinks that you have to say that so that people know that you believe that diversity is good.
	And when you have to say these things, it usually is a me thinks he doth protesteth too much type affirmation.
	In my humble lived experience.
	He studied literature at McGill University, graduating with a BA in 1994.
	He went on to complete the University of British Columbia's education program and spent several years teaching French, math, and other subjects in Vancouver.
	Teaching him allowed to make a positive impact on the lives of...
	All right.
	That's his experience.
	I mean, I don't judge it because teaching is a worthwhile venture.
	I do think no one should be allowed to serve in politics without a certain...
	Either training or knowledge of economics and small business.
	Because having run my own small boutique litigation law firm for a little while, I can tell you that unless you have had experience with the paperwork, as we say, papras, that the government imposes on small businesses, you might not be able to govern in a way that would actually factor in the burdensome, back-breaking paper...
	What's the word?
	Bureaucracies that government regulation creates.
	Oh, you don't smell good anymore.
	Not bad.
	It just smells like a wet carpet.
	But it doesn't stop there.
	It doesn't stop there.
	It doesn't stop there, people.
	Christian Freeland.
	Old Economic Forum.
	WEF.
	The Honorable Freeland is the Deputy Minister of Finance.
	Ms. Freeland was first elected as a member of the Parliament of Toronto and Toronto.
	I mean...
	Oh, and here we go.
	She was awarded Freedom House's Mark Palmer Prize in recognition of her years of work in championing democracy and human rights.
	She is a member of the Forum's Board of Trustees.
	That's odd.
	How curious.
	Who other?
	Let's see.
	Members of Canadian...
	I can't.
	Parliament.
	I know how to spell people.
	I know how to spell.
	My fingers are not working.
	Rona Ambrose.
	Who's Rona Ambrose?
	Leader of the official opposition, Parliament of Canada.
	Rona Ambrose, PCMPMA.
	But why do we have so many politicians on the World Economic Forum website?
	What's her...
	Okay, so...
	By the way, fair game.
	Conservative.
	Official opposition.
	Excuse me while I throw up in my mouth a bit.
	Who else?
	Who else, people?
	Government.
	Canada Government.
	World Economic Forum.
	What?
	This is new for me, by the way.
	This is new for me.
	Young Global Leaders.
	This is the first time I've actually surfed this website.
	I don't know who these people are.
	I don't know who these people are.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	I don't like clubs.
	I don't like clubs.
	Let's continue the exploration, shall we?
	Justin Trudeau, who's Navit Baines?
	Member of Parliament, Parliament of Canada.
	And just a bio on the World Economic Forum?
	What is going on here?
	Okay, I think we got the picture, people.
	Let me just get back to the stream.
	Let me just go revisit the chat.
	It's been a while since I've seen this.
	Viva, please watch War Campaign's clip about the WF talk about...
	Well, I've seen the now infamous viral clip of Klaus Schwab talking about having infiltrated Parliament.
	We have many of the members of the Canadian Parliament who are young leaders of the World Economic Forum.
	And I'm not making fun to make fun.
	I actually kind of...
	Look, I can do a good German accent, and it's also fun to do a good German accent.
	Yeah, this is...
	So who knew this?
	Anyhow, go and explore on your own.
	But...
	Jagmeet Singh, congratulations.
	You have now officially been in government long enough to have become the enemy.
	And you have joined the enemy.
	Because you have identified the enemy.
	And you have now publicly stated that you are joining alliances with the enemy.
	Which doesn't make the enemy good.
	It now makes you the enemy.
	The political enemy.
	Because there's no other way.
	There is no other way to wrap your head around that.
	You don't change evil.
	You only become a part of it.
	You don't...
	You don't...
	Change intolerant, dangerous, offensive politicians by joining them.
	You just become one yourself.
	So, welcome to the club.
	It's not a club that I want to be part of.
	Ah.
	Ah.
	you Well, I'm not going to say her last name.
	Look, I once upon a time...
	I understand the argument for dual citizenship could cause for concern in government.
	Because when you're in government...
	Your loyalties have to lie with the people you serve of the government you serve in.
	And dual citizenship can cause concerns as to what interests you're actually representing.
	I don't think anyone in Canadian politics should have any affiliations while in office to international organizations who might not have Canadian national interests at heart.
	Which might explain why we're paying however much for gas right now.
	Because after shutting down pipelines and...
	You know, killing oil exploration and making things more difficult, generally speaking, in Canada.
	You know, it might not have been in Canada's best interest to...
	Canadians' best interest to do that.
	I appreciate the environmental argument.
	I think, by and large, people are wrong on that argument.
	That was a dog hair.
	But that's it.
	But in a way, Tina Kreider Honeycutt.
	It's a funny name.
	TCH?
	Okay, I don't know.
	They're all actors.
	Well, in a way, we are all actors.
	I'm a very bad actor, which is why I'm a very bad liar as well.
	Viva, do you think the government will try to take your channel down?
	Nope.
	I mean, let them see.
	If they want to pass that Bill C-10, that's the indirect way of doing it.
	Not taking it down, but rather, you know, regulating.
	I don't think, you know, I think they're looking at more of other targets with that legislation, which they're cloaking under the guise of...
	We just want broadcasters to pay their fair share, to quote Gilbo.
	But, look, you never know what the future holds.
	But the backlash to certain recent tyrannical moves, I think, might have put the government in check to some extent.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	So here, let's see this.
	But WF is projecting.
	They don't actually have these people.
	Well, it's an interesting thing.
	Maybe the WF is just co-opting these people.
	Maybe they're just thinking like, hey, we're going to post their pictures on our website and give them a bio to project an affiliation that actually doesn't exist.
	But I'll tell you one thing.
	If the World Economic Forum puts a picture of me up there with my bio...
	I'm not a litigious person.
	I'm just telling them to take it down because I have nothing to do with them.
	I want to have nothing to do with them.
	And I don't want them leeching off whatever goodwill I think I might have earned in life.
	And I don't want them tarnishing my brand, for lack of a better word, with what I believe true of the WEF.
	So let's see what we got here.
	So that's it.
	But anyways, that's the latest on Jagmeet Singh.
	Awful.
	Immoral.
	And I said it after Jagmeet voted for Justin Trudeau's Emergencies Act invocation, and then Justin Trudeau revoked it before it could be ratified or rejected by Senate.
	I said he made fools out of everyone in the NDP who voted for him, who voted for that.
	Congratulations, Jagmeet.
	I am fairly certain you made fools out of everyone who voted for you thinking it was a protest vote to the corrupt, unethical...
	Justin Trudeau liberal government.
	You made fools out of your own voters.
	And to everyone whose door I knocked on and you said you were voting for Jagmeet Singh out of protest because you couldn't vote for Justin Trudeau, I told you so.
	No honor among thieves and you can't trust a liar.
	Period.
	All right.
	Now, what else?
	You know what?
	Let's just get back to the...
	Oh, so there's a big news breaking on Project Veritas.
	I don't know if I want to do it in this stream because I want to read the documents a little more thoroughly and then likely have a dedicated stream to that tomorrow.
	But if I'm checking my messages here, hold on.
	So let me just...
	I'm going to post the link actually right now.
	Bottom line, the government is up to no good and who would have thunk?
	Give me a second, people.
	I'm just going to post it in here.
	This dog might need another bath.
	All of a sudden, two hours ago, is this the one?
	Yep, this is it.
	Dog smells like what you would think a wet carpet smells like.
	And it's boom shakalaka.
	Here we go.
	Do it now.
	The thing is, I haven't read the documents enough, and also I need to make sure...
	I told you so first.
	I don't know, Cameron.
	I don't know.
	Well, yeah, you might have.
	You might have.
	I think a lot of people told me so first because I was very slow.
	I was late to arrive to this party, but I'm here now.
	So, Viva, does it make sense for conservatives to pair with PPC the same way NDP pairs with liberals for good of Canada?
	They can keep...
	Well, so this is an interesting thing, by the way.
	It would make sense, but what you're going to see is people asking PPC to vote conservative now that they're going to have...
	Potentially better candidates for leadership of the party.
	And I'll say publicly what I've said privately.
	I don't consider myself conservative.
	I don't consider myself liberal.
	I am loyal.
	And I can be convinced, but it takes actual action and not just promises.
	And so the idea of trying to...
	I'm not voting conservative next election, hell or high water.
	They're gonna have to prove that they've actually learned their lessons and actually changed things in order to get that vote.
	If they have good candidates run, I've spoken highly of Pierre Poilievre back in the day.
	I have unfortunately noticed that as of the moment he started running for the leadership of the party, his Twitter feed looks a lot like every other generic politician running for leadership, running for office looks.
	I spoke highly of Roman Baber, who...
	He's running for the leadership of the Conservative Party as well.
	He was good.
	He was the Ontario MPP who put forward the bill to cut MPP salaries until...
	I forget if it was to cut them to zero or if it was to take a certain percentage cut until the pandemic response from the government was over.
	As if to teach him, you want to shut people out of businesses, you've got to take a pay cut yourselves.
	And the Ontario Parliament...
	Spun it around and said, okay, well, good, Baber.
	We're going to cut your salary.
	We're going to reverse your vote.
	We all vote to cut your salary.
	It didn't actually pass.
	But Baber has been principled on the COVID response and his objections to it and the government overreach.
	But even if Baber wins the leadership and becomes the leader of the Conservative Party, I'm not telling anyone who voted PPC to vote Conservative.
	That would make me, on the one hand, an outright hypocrite.
	It would make me an absolute principless individual.
	And they've got to prove it.
	And then if they prove it, they don't need people to vouch for them.
	They don't need people to tell other people how to vote.
	They'll earn the vote on their own merits.
	Am I going to run for the PPC again?
	Well, let's see.
	We'll see when the next election is.
	I said I was not going to run for government again.
	I don't think...
	I think I'm more useful outside of government than inside of that machine.
	And politics ruins everything.
	And, you know...
	I'm noticing a substantive change in the quality of Pierre Poilievre's posts on Twitter, and messaging and positioning in government.
	You know, telling a seconding, what was her name, Melissa Lantzman, who said, why is the Russian ambassador still in Canada?
	And then Pierre Poilievre says, I agree, kick them out.
	And I don't know if they were being sarcastic, because it's such bad policy in my mind.
	That it could read as though they were being sarcastic.
	In the context of an international conflict that could possibly start a massive conflict, an international conflict, how do you resolve it?
	By kicking out the ambassadors to those nations from your nation?
	You have to be an idiot to think that that's going to solve the problem as opposed to exacerbate the problem.
	You don't resolve conflict.
	Why the cessation of dialogue?
	Someone just said in the chat, Pierre Poilievre is also WEF.
	Let me see.
	Not trust, but verify, people.
	Well, as far as it goes, let me share the screen so that no one accuses me of protecting Pierre Poilievre as if I would.
	I'm as hard as him as I am on everybody else.
	Pierre Poilievre, World Economic Forum.
	This is my search result, people.
	Just to show you here.
	Strike that button.
	I don't see any page dedicated to him on the WEF, and I'm going to go to a tweet from him.
	It says, Maybe that's why government is inflating home prices.
	This is July 17, 2021.
	So, whoever said that, it's very, very summary research.
	It does not look like Pierre Poilievre is a At the very least, the type of member or the type of affiliated individual with the WEF that the others are.
	So, yeah.
	Okay, good.
	So, I'm glad we cleared that up.
	Pierre Paulier, fully pensioner at age 31, not jealous and believe in his goodness, useless...
	Okay, not jealous and believe in his goodness, useless eater.
	I don't know what that means.
	I don't know what that means.
	I think we just clarified that he's definitely not on their website and he's definitely taken public positions against them.
	So that makes sense.
	Dream scenario for Viva's political career.
	Max wins Prime Minister and appoints Viva for Senator.
	I think I can be more impactful from the outside.
	I think politics does ruin everything.
	And I think at the end of the day, I'm not saying this out of arrogance.
	Full stop.
	I actually think it's something of a flaw.
	I think I'm not cutthroat enough.
	And I'm incapable of dishonesty.
	And I can't use people.
	I cannot use people from my own ends.
	So therefore, I think I would be absolutely terrible as a politician.
	But I'm honest.
	So there's that.
	Valérie Plante, mayor, is also mentioned on WEF.
	Do we go see this?
	Do we go see this?
	Hold on.
	Add to stream.
	Let's go see this.
	It would make total sense if the mayor of Montreal, although she's the minister of foreign affairs now, and looky, looky, looky what we have here.
	What do they do?
	Just pick people and put them on their website?
	And unless they object and say, take me down, you're one of us now?
	That is bizarre.
	It's very bizarre.
	Okay.
	Well, that's it.
	No, so look, I'm going to do the...
	I'm going to do...
	If I set up a second stream today, maybe, but definitely tomorrow.
	We have a sidebar tomorrow night.
	And the Project Veritas.
	Did I put that in the chat?
	I did, right?
	Okay.
	Close this.
	I like Max.
	He is a good person in as much as I know him.
	He's honest also to a flaw.
	Proposing policy that he knows is not going to be popular in the writing in which he was running, which was Bose in Quebec talking about...
	What do they call them when you divert the payments?
	The redistribution of federal funds, people.
	Someone in the chat, I keep forgetting the word for this.
	When he says, I believe in reviewing, updating the...
	Oh, someone in the chat, help me with the word.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	It's what I'm talking about.
	It's the federal, not repatriation, equalization, thank you.
	It's the federal equalization program where the tax dollars, provincial tax dollars that are generated get put up to the federal and then spread out based on the respective needs of the provinces.
	And there are some people who believe that some provinces should not be poor provinces, that they have natural resources, that they have...
	Tourist resources.
	And that but for the federal subsidizing in the equalization payments, if they didn't get that from the federal government, they might actually have to go out there and work their resources, so to speak.
	And so Maxime Bernier thinks it's time.
	Maybe Quebec shouldn't be getting such subsidies from the equalization payments.
	Maybe they should be not subsidizing electricity and making people actually pay for it or market value for it, or at least not nationalizing it so that the system's complicated.
	Maybe Quebec doesn't actually deserve all of the equalization payments that come from the Western provinces exploiting their natural resources and then thus subsidizing the Eastern provinces and in so subsidizing those Eastern provinces, lulling them into a sort of dependence.
	And, you know, it's the whole argument of employment insurance or actually unemployment insurance is at what point does it create Or, you know, incentivize an individual or a province to not go out there and bust their butts to make a living, to succeed.
	At what point does it lull them into submission, lull them into laziness, in a sense, where they say, geez, I'm getting all of this from the government.
	Why would I go out and work twice as hard for only 20% more?
	All right.
	That's it.
	You know what?
	We're going to end it.
	This has been a long stream.
	We're going to do Project Veritas.
	If I have the energy and I can do it tonight...
	If not, we'll do another daytime stream tomorrow.
	What else is on the books?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	James O 'Keefe is coming on Thursday.
	Oh, I'm an idiot.
	Maybe we just wait until Thursday.
	Let me just see here.
	I believe it's been confirmed that we're going to go live.
	Let me just check my emails.
	It said correct on the time, and I said that would be Eastern time, and they said correct, and that was 11. So Thursday, 11 a.m.
	Obviously, I'm going to send out the links.
	Live with James O 'Keefe to talk about the latest bombshell, which is what you're going to watch in that video.
	And I've got some questions.
	I mean, I think I know what questions to ask because I've been following that story for long enough.
	But, you know, apparently when the FBI comes in and says, what did they say?
	They basically wanted emails, all emails from James O 'Keefe and Project Veritas reporters, but not just as relates to the diary for eight months before the diary, which now, you know, knowing the way things work.
	I am thoroughly convinced that whomever gave that diary to James O 'Keefe and Project Veritas, the Biden daughter diary, it was a setup from the beginning.
	What video?
	Did I not put it here?
	Let me see if this is it.
	Jeez, I hope that's the right video.
	Let me make sure.
	Umshakalaka.
	And it is.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	There it is.
	It's in the chat, people.
	Let me just do it one more time.
	Michelle Rempel.
	WEF.
	Let's just go and see and make sure.
	Michelle Rempel sounds familiar.
	Is she the one who couldn't believe that the government would have put her at risk?
	Michelle Rempel-Garner.
	I went to Davos.
	The World Economic Forum is not running Canada.
	Well, you better believe that.
	The WEF portrays itself as a highly influential elite organization.
	In reality, it's an overpriced...
	Sales conference by Michelle Rempel-Garner.
	Did she pay for it?
	Who is Michelle Rempel?
	Economic club.
	Okay, so we're not seeing anything there, but I just want to see who she is.
	Oh, no, that's not who I was thinking of.
	Who was the one that had the back and forth with Mendoncino?
	And it was the liberal politician, and she's like...
	You mean we walked by the convoy every day and it was dangerous and you didn't tell us?
	I can't believe you would have put us at risk like that.
	Anybody knows offhand who that is?
	Yeah, so that's it.
	So Thursday, we've got James O 'Keefe during the day.
	Wednesday night, we have a sidebar.
	Just don't know who it is just yet.
	Oh, Rempel was the sellout.
	Oh, she's the one who apologized for her privilege on Twitter.
	Oh, let's just end it there so that nobody thinks I'm making this up.
	Now I remember.
	See, I have a good memory when I can remember things.
	Twitter, privilege.
	I know that's not how you spell it because there's no K in privilege.
	And we go, oh.
	And I believe this will be the tweet.
	Yeah, this is Michelle Rempel-Garner.
	Yes, I humble myself and ask forgiveness.
	And seek to make things right.
	I have privilege.
	I am cis, straight, white.
	White.
	But I am also a woman who works in a system dominated by white maleness.
	Look at this.
	I'm privileged, but I'm also a victim.
	Such interesting gymnastics going on there.
	But no excuses.
	I will do what I can.
	That is all I can do, but it is much.
	I recall replying to this at one point.
	I thought...
	Oh, did she...
	Did it say it was deleted?
	No, that was not that.
	I recall having replied at the time, but maybe I didn't.
	Oh, my God.
	With taxpayer funds by...
	Okay.
	All right, whatever.
	Yeah, that's Michelle Rample.
	I remember that.
	I remember now.
	I remember everything when I have the...
	Okay.
	Whack.
	That's the spelling for the slang term in that context.
	Whack.
	Wow.
	Anyhow, okay, that's it.
	So, big week coming up.
	I'm glad James Topp came on.
	I'm going to pin all the links there in social.
	I'll pin the link to James O 'Keefe's new video.
	And I think there are a couple other links that I have access to now.
	I'm going to do my reading.
	And we will be live tomorrow, people.
	One way or the other, we're going to go live at noon again.
	It seems to be a good time.
	Don't interfere with Scott Adams in the morning.
	Don't interfere with James O 'Keefe.
	Not James O 'Keefe.
	Tim Pool at night.
	I interfere with Nate and Reketa and Joe, but the lawyers have been going live all day on some of these lawsuits.
	But at some point, we're going to have to overlap.
	So I'll pick the person that we overlap with on any given day.
	Wait, Viva.
	Hold on.
	What is it, Cruel Crusader?
	You caught my attention with that.
	Do I need a permit to live stream in the US?
	I don't want to give any advice.
	I don't even know what the...
	Oh.
	But won't that hurt the conservative voter base regardless even if PPC is gaining momentum as they still are not recognized by blue-collar workers?
	I don't care.
	I don't care.
	Things don't change by doing the same thing.
	Heraclitus said you never step into the same river twice.
	Yes, I appreciate everything is always changing.
	But at some point in time, things don't change unless you make them change.
	And they're not going to change by continuing to reward the bad behavior in the first place.
	Voting conservative at this point in time is rewarding the bad behavior by forgetting about the bad behavior and relying on promises which are worth nothing more than toilet paper.
	Use toilet paper.
	So I don't care what the impact is of voting the way I believe.
	It will never change unless enough people start voting the way they believe they should and not voting the way they think they have to for strategic reasons because look how that helped.
	They voted protest.
	People protest voted for the NDP and now the NDP is joining evil forces with the corrupt party that people couldn't vote for in the first place.
	And now people think, oh, because O'Toole's a tool and is no longer in the party.
	I'm going to go vote for the Conservative Party that was so useless and so feckless they put us in this problem in the first place, did nothing.
	Vocally or meaningfully to protect our constitutional rights.
	Voted for the same policies as the liberals, but on a light version.
	And now because they say they're going to have a new leader who's going to be better, go vote for them.
	Vote for them when they are better, not when they promise to be better.
	And I'm not telling people who to vote for anyhow.
	I'm just saying that logic is illogical.
	It's not logic.
	All right.
	Well, with that well said, I'm going to wind it up now.
	Thank you all for being here.
	Thank you all.
	And by the way, cut and share and snippet that James Topp interview.
	There were a couple of moments there that I know that I wanted to remember.
	Snippet it, share it around.
	I think James Topp is going to quickly run into the problem of the fruits of his success.
	He's going to get a lot of following.
	He's going to get a lot of support.
	And then there are going to be some people who are going to...
	Have certain expectations of what he should and should not be doing with that popularity, with the support that he's gotten.
	But he's a man on a mission, and it's his mission.
	And what he decides to do with this is up to him.
	So long as he doesn't sell it improperly to people who are contributing, to people who are supporting, I appreciate the movement.
	It's something I would...
	My dream is to do a cross-country road trip, and I might be trying to make that dream happen.
	In a vehicle, in an SUV, in an RV or in a tent, not on foot.
	So his dream is one that I would love.
	It's got to be beautiful, but it's not feasible for me at this time to carry two special needs dogs across the country.
	Wouldn't work.
	It wouldn't work.
	Okay, let me see if I missed any comments.
	Well, I can join up with them at some point.
	It might be fun.
	But yeah, too many family obligations that make it impossible.
	Thanks, Viva.
	I still don't want you to stop talking.
	At some point...
	I mean, I'll continue talking, but I got to walk back to the car dealership to pick up the car, and it's five and a half kilometers away.
	I'm going to stop and get a cup of coffee on the way, or a Red Bull.
	And I know a Red Bull is not good for IBS, but we all have our vices.
	Well said, Viva, and this is what I did the last time.
	We voted for Mad Max, and enough people voted for Mad Max and the PPC that they got...
	Half of their federal campaign funds reimbursed.
	That's $600,000 in the coffers for the next election.
	I believe they met the threshold, such that, unless they changed the rules again, such that Max will now have a place at the leaders' debate the next federal election.
	And that's what happens.
	It's like, the idea of having a Trump-like victory, whether you love him or hate him, the idea of having a Trump-like victory all the time in election, look, you can always...
	Hope springs eternal.
	But the reality is a little bit slower than that.
	But the PPC has made the headway that they needed to.
	And when Maxime gets up there on the federal leaders' debate and people can actually see him and hear him and look at him and say, maybe he's not that xenophobic racist that everyone in the state-funded media says he is.
	Maybe they'll actually think...
	Think of voting for him.
	The increased exposure is only going to be good.
	It's not like anybody who does it.
	It's not like anybody's going to see Max and say, my goodness, I'm not voting for him anymore.
	Only new people are going to see Max and see the party with the increased exposure, and it's just going to have exponential growth, but it starts slowly.
	Okay, that's it.
	Let me just make sure I'm just looking to see if I missed anything in the chat.
	Viva, thanks for occupying some of my time today, Viva.
	Sushi Ninja, my pleasure.
	Thank you for being here.
	If we can't fix auto, we should separate.
	Yeah, and the hair, by the way.
	I've noticed the problem.
	My white hair is purely straight and my darker hair is curly.
	And quite clearly on this side where it's sticking straight out, there is clearly more gray hair there than on the other side where it's a little more curly.
	And so it looks absolutely bonkers.
	But I was walking back from the car dealership and I heard someone say, Viva, I recognize you by the hair.
	So I think the branding, the accidental branding, Is here to stay.
	Sorry, Mom.
	Sorry, Dad.
	Marion.
	When it gets longer, I'll do a man bun.
	I'm almost there.
	I'm almost there.
	Don't worry about encroaching on live time.
	It is a big...
	No, that's it.
	I just don't want people thinking I'm doing it on purpose.
	I think everyone in the YouTube live streaming verse is not thick-skinned, but we all appreciate each other and have, you know...
	We don't impute.
	Ill will to the others.
	So we know there's only 24 hours in a day and there's a lot of people live streaming now.
	And there's a lot of subject matter to live stream on.
	Need a viva flag.
	I don't know.
	We'll see about that.
	We'll see.
	Thank you very, very much, Rain.
	I just said Rain with an E because I don't know.
	Okay.
	And Black Pill Red.
	I think you must be my long lost kinfolk.
	We are all human at the end of the day.
	Let's see.
	Here we go.
	Okay, you look marvelous.
	Thank you very much.
	Viva can always work on ancient aliens.
	The government...
	I'm not saying the government's corrupt, but the government's corrupt.
	All governments.
	Okay, that's it.
	Canadian flag with the Viva Frois.
	No, no, I do not like co-opting national symbols or things that actually have meaning, as if to say...
	I think I'm anywhere near important enough that I should have any place on the Canadian flag.
	The Canadian flag is the Canadian flag.
	I'll create my own logo images without co-opting things that are obviously bigger than me and that I don't think I have any business co-opting.
	Let's see.
	There is no man in man bun.
	How about the human bun?
	Okay, people.
	That is it.
	I'm going to duck out.
	What time is it?
	2.40?
	Ooh, I'm cutting it close because I've got pickup duty to do as well.
	Eh, duty.
	Okay, people, thank you very much for tuning in.
	Stay tuned for more.
	I will see you on the interwebs, on the Twitterverse.
	Thank you for the support.
	Thank you for everything.
	Tune in on Rumble.
	VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com and we will see you tomorrow.

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