And yes, I might have been a little late because I was stroking my hair through my freedom fro.
Alright, let's just get the lighting a little bit good here.
Let me know if the audio is good.
Drew might be a few minutes late, or he warned me he would be a few minutes late, so I'm just going to go ahead and take my time with the intro.
And say that there's a lot of stuff going on in the news these days, and it is not the same.
To not be able to see a trial with your own eyes, to view the witnesses.
And I've got to say, it doesn't make sense to me, but it makes sense to me.
There's a dog making a lot of noise up there.
Hey, can they let the dog out of the kitchen?
They're going to let the dog out of the kitchen.
The Jelaine Maxwell trial is going on.
The Jussie Smollett trial is going on, and it's nice reading people's tweets and reading people's summaries of what's going on, watching their videos on it.
It's not the same as viewing it, and to the extent that people are going to give minute-by-minute, second-by-second tweets, summaries, go put up videos of the day of, it makes no sense that we can't see it in real time unless...
Seeing it in real time would just be too enraging and would be too infuriating.
With the Jelaine Maxwell, I think it makes more sense because of the nature.
I had the exact same intercom system when I was growing up.
Yep, that dog.
And I hear her scratching away at the blockade between the kitchen and the living room.
Jelaine Maxwell, there's a lot of stuff that needs to be redacted and in real time, I guess, needs to be.
But the Jussie Smollett trial, I want to see Alabinjo and Abimbola and Olabinjo.
I've been Bola and Ol.
I want to see them testify in real time.
I want to see Jussie Smollett's reaction as the two brothers testify with amazing accuracy and total logic in their testimony.
And the guy who has pushed the lie beyond any...
In this salvageable realm of pushing a lie, he's now taking it to trial.
I want to see this in real time.
The bottom line of the day, I might do a Viva on the street after the stream if it's not to talk about the Jussie Smollett update, because I have no video clips to show Jussie Smollett's heart being ripped in two as the Osundaro brothers give the most compelling account of what went down.
If it's not about that, it might be about something else, but...
Bottom line, it's madness what's going on with that trial.
I mean, we're now into, like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, four days of a trial, of a lie gone way too far.
The Olsen Dyer brothers coming out and saying, yeah, he paid us.
We had a dry run.
He wanted it to be done in front of this video camera so it would capture it.
He told us what to say.
He was afraid that one brother was going to punch too hard, so he asked the other brother to do it.
Or the brothers decided...
One of them was going to punch Jussie Smollett and not the other because he couldn't pull his punches.
What was the other?
Oh, Jussie Smollett's new defense now is that the Osundaro brothers are criminal masterminds and orchestrated this whole thing.
And that it was an actual racist and homophobic hate crime.
Apparently, one of the Osundaro brothers has pictures participating in the gay pride parade handing out condoms.
This is his testimony.
He worked at a bouncer at a bar, I think, in the community for a year or two years.
Oh, but man, I'll tell you what.
It's astonishing.
It's astonishing.
All right.
We'll get into Jelaine Maxwell, I think, at some point tonight as well.
I'm stoned and enjoying this stream.
Thanks for the truth.
Richard Winter, enjoy your evening.
To each their own.
I am like a boss.
Trying to catch up on the backlog of work from hospital stay.
Glad I was able to catch a show live.
Well, this is going to be amazing for anybody who doesn't know who Drew Hernandez is.
Testified during the Rittenhouse trial.
Street journalist, vlogger, political commentator, smart guy.
It's going to be fantastic when he gets here, but we'll be here in a few minutes.
Standard intro disclaimers.
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I always appreciate it.
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You can go check us over there, live streaming on Rumble as well.
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All that stuff.
Big news of the day, actually, for anybody who doesn't know.
Once upon a time, a few weeks ago, Locals merged with Rumble and it was called a buyout or a sellout in some people's minds, but it was actually more of a merger because Locals became a shareholder in Rumble Inc.
Well now, don't call it a sellout.
But Rumble is effectively being bought out by a publicly traded company on NASDAQ so they can go public through a different mechanism, which we don't need to get into, and basically reach the capital of the public market to raise whatever capital they need to continue being the free speech platform that they are.
It raises concerns as to whether or not...
It's going to remain a free speech platform because once you have shareholders, public shareholders, that have an interest in the company, it becomes a question of shareholder interests, which are not necessarily the same as a privately held company shareholder interests.
Pavlovsky, from what I understand, is still going to be a majority shareholder or have a majority interest.
I might be wrong about that.
But it raises concerns because shareholder value is not necessarily synonymous with Free speech value.
So we'll see where that goes.
But that's the big news of the day is Rumble is effectively going public through a mechanism of joining with a company which has already traded on the NASDAQ.
Not a Band Account says, what new emergency powers can we award our prime ministers to effectively fight Omicron?
Human rights don't apply in emergencies.
Yeah.
I guess it could be the opening rant of the day was I went and met with...
Somebody for lunch, and I told them up front, I said, I don't want to make a scene, but if they ask me for proof of papers to sit in a restaurant, we're going to have to go somewhere else or take out.
And then we went to one place, they asked, and I was like, I'm sorry, I can show you, but I'm not doing it, and I find it offensive, like I'm being asked for papers like a dog at a kennel show.
Then we went to a second place, same problem, so we ended up taking out, but...
It's depressing how the slippery slope, like I said on Twitter today, it's not a fallacy, it's a strategy.
And you just see how people just get weathered down and beaten down and all they want to do is live a normal life.
They just want to live in peace.
They want to go and have lunch and they want to operate a small business in peace.
And then they all just eventually at first oppose it, complain about it, then get used to it.
And it seems like a lot of people have gotten used to it, and maybe I'm one of the outliers who just gets more and more angry about it as time goes on and not getting used to it.
I won't get used to it.
Yeah, so that's it.
Let's see here.
Acronym of OMI.
Ozone Monitoring Instrument.
Oblates.
I don't know if...
I'm going to say that this is not...
I don't know if this is true.
I'm just going to read it anyhow.
Oblates of Mary Immaculate's Religious Order, also organization Maytime Internationality.
Old Myo...
Okay.
Not legal advice, not medical advice.
Standard disclaimers, everybody.
No medical advice, no legal advice.
But I read the Super Chats and sometimes I get too far into them to realize that they might, you know, be on the outs with the rules of YouTube.
Is it just me or does the Omicron virus sound like something Decepticons would attack us with?
I've heard multiple Transformer references.
It does sound like...
Decepticon.
I forget what the other ones were called.
But the funny thing is, you know, they skipped, I think it was Nu and She of the Greek alphabet.
Nu, N-U, and She as an X-I of the Greek alphabet, which were the two coming before Omicron, because these are all named after Greek letters of the Greek alphabet.
And it led some people to suspect that there may have been foreign or international influences deciding, putting pressure on...
Not using embarrassing or potentially politically embarrassing names.
President Xi, I believe his name is.
Xi as well.
And so a number of people were saying, you know, the WHO skipping Nu and Xi of the Greek alphabet seemingly ostensibly to placate the political interests of certain people should tell you all you need to know.
But the explanation was that Nu, N-U sounds like Nu, which would be confusing.
Which doesn't pass the smell test with me because they're literally calling it the novel coronavirus, so I don't see how calling it a very...
What do they call them?
A variant?
A variant.
New.
Could be confusing.
And she, they say, XI, is a common last name, so can't use that either.
Which is also not compelling because Delta is a pretty common name, word, massive international airline, faucet company.
So make what you will of that, but that's that.
Is there a kind of company that can never go public so we can decide which platforms to trust?
It's a good question.
No.
There's always a way for a private company to go public.
I mean, in theory, unless, I don't know, a not-for-profit or if there's some form of a...
Bylaws are set up that preclude it from going public, but then you can always amend your bylaws if it's a standard corporation, typically.
So, look, we'll see what happens.
Thus far, it's been very good.
They are still very good.
Benefit of the doubt, but going public, really, it facilitates raising capital, but it also brings in a lot of other different political interests.
Real Bambuga, always.
You missed my 217th superchat.
I'm fine with that, Real Bambuga.
Thank you very much for the support and the jokes, and we'll just keep taking superchats until Drew gets in.
Ron Jeremy trial in February to be a state trial.
Could be.
Not only could it be interesting, what's Ron Jeremy on trial for?
Couldn't be for having bad gin.
He makes a gin.
It's called...
I believe the gin is called the Hedgehog.
No, maybe it's not called the Hedgehog.
Maybe it is called the Hedgehog.
What's Ron Jeremy's gin called?
It's actually not bad gin.
Delicious.
If that's a state trial...
The thing is this.
Kim Potter's trial is going on.
Rakeet is covering it.
But there was some magic.
around the Rittenhouse trial that it's going to be difficult to replicate because a lot of things converged in terms of politics, law, injustice, the issue at issue in that case, Second Amendment self-defense rights, core issue, the lawyers for the first time, 10 to 15, maybe even more lawyers forming an invoice, a panel, bringing it all together.
It's going to be difficult to replicate if it's ever possible, but The great thing is now that we've introduced tens, maybe 100,000 people, more, millions, maybe, to the world of YouTube law.
And if it's an interesting trial that is short enough to follow without losing interest, it's going to be great.
Kim Potter is phenomenally interesting, but three days of jury selection, it's going to be difficult to maintain people's interests for day-long streams.
Love your content and fair-mindedness viva from Lurie Herger says, thank you very much.
It's new.
Autobots versus Decepticons.
And I love that avatar.
Let's see what we've got here.
As of yesterday, Victoria, Australia now has laws that negate freedom from medical discrimination.
The march of contracting freedoms carries on.
Well, it's an interesting thing also.
In Canada, they're putting a bill towards the Senate which would ban conversion therapy, which is...
It's very interesting because I was going to tweet...
A question which could be misconstrued as being glib, so I deleted the tweet.
But banning conversion therapy, for a second, I literally thought it meant transformation therapy or transition therapy.
I literally thought it meant that for a second.
Conversion therapy is banning the practice of trying to convert homosexuals back to heterosexuals.
But the interesting thing is the idea that you're banning conversion therapy.
Which, to some, could say you're going to ban transition therapy because that is a different level than conversion therapy, using therapy to try to get...
I don't know who would ever want to change from how they feel orientation-wise, but I can see it being a case.
We're having a number of conflicting laws and conflicting philosophies going on at the same time, which is certain types of...
Convincing is problematic and should be unlawful and other types should be protected.
It's inconsistency all the way through, but they also plan to skip the Greek letter Winnie.
They're not going to skip...
Well, if they called it Winnie, that would be funny.
You know something that occurred to me or that I found out the other day?
Jake Tapper, Jake Tapper from CNN, has a dog named Winston.
And his dog has a Twitter handle.
It's not a Westie, but it's a small terrier-like looking dog.
But Jake Tapper's dog is named Winston.
And now I'm questioning every decision I've ever made in my entire life.
Not going to happen.
But what is going to happen?
Operating system.
Okay.
Interesting.
Thank you very much.
As crown subjects, what rights do Canucks have to bear arms?
Bear arms?
Virtually nil.
Possession in Canada is strictly for hunting or target practice.
And strictly as in virtually exclusively.
Very rarely can you have a firearm for personal protection.
You have to get a special permit for that.
You have to follow a special course.
You have to get a special permit for small arms, for small arms, pistols.
Different course.
To say it's difficult is an understatement.
You have to follow a specific course for small arms versus long arms hunting rifles.
Extremely hard to get.
The penalties for violating the law are...
They effectively criminalize mistakes.
Penalties of imprisonment if you don't store your firearm locked and unloaded with the ammunition separated from the firearm.
It's virtually impossible to travel with it because you...
I think there might have been a new regulation that you actually have to get permission to travel with the firearm from these officers who are governing the regulation.
And you can only use it for target practice.
It's a next level in Canada.
But we can still own them for hunting.
Hunting rifles, I think the maximum capacity for a magazine is five shots.
But from what I understand, from what I know, duck hunting is three shots and a shotgun anyhow.
But you can have rifles.
Magazine has a limit of legal capacity.
Legal limit of five.
Viva, can you tell me why I got kicked out of the Rakata livestream for super chatting these emojis?
I don't know.
Doesn't look good.
Doesn't look good.
And I didn't see the emojis before I did it, but if you got kicked out of Rakata's super chat or chatting, you must have done something.
I don't know.
I don't have mods, so I don't get to see all of these.
In real time.
But I don't know what that was.
But if you got kicked out of Rakaitis, you must have done something dubious, to say the least.
Love the show.
Barnes is great.
Easy to raise capital by going public.
Private companies have to take loans traditionally from banks.
Easy to issue shares.
Harder to control.
For sure.
And then it becomes, I won't say easier to infiltrate, but it does become easier to manipulate.
Once you've gone public, it's bottom line.
But you have a board of directors.
You've got to get people on the board of directors.
You've got to make sure the board of directors are not answering to interests that are other than the essence of the company.
But don't expect shareholders to be interested in preserving free speech at the value of their shares.
Just don't expect it.
And that's the problem.
Drew comes off as biased and unsophisticated in thought, not sure about this sidebar.
Peter, that's highly judgmental.
I do wonder how familiar you are with his content.
And whether or not you saw him in the trial, and that is what you're basing your opinion on.
I don't know what biased means, and I don't know what unsophisticated thought means.
All of that seems highly judgmental, and dare I say highly biased.
But we'll see.
Maybe he'll change your mind, maybe he won't, to the extent that he's coming.
Superchat is just a troll.
Joe Blow Superchat is just a troll.
Well, I may have learned a lesson, but...
What was I going to say?
While we have a few minutes, Jelaine Maxwell trial.
The major updates.
I'm not following it from the courthouse.
I'm following it from Inner City Press.
I think it's called Inner City Press.
Joe Nierman.
Good logic is there.
And he's giving very, very interesting summaries during the pause.
The internet is beautiful sometimes because he pops out, records a 7-15 minute summary, uploads it, goes back into the court.
And the interesting thing...
Sorry, I'm going to take that off.
The interesting thing about the Galane, however you want to pronounce it, trial, is that for anybody who's been paying attention, it's not revealing anything new.
In fact, what I'm noticing, it's not revealing anything new by any means, but for anybody who's paying attention to it, it should be abundantly clear now that the authorities, intelligence, The powers that be know darn well what's going on here.
And from the evidence, from the testimony thus far, and from everything that everybody has known prior to this, anyone who's been paying attention, it was quite clear that Jelaine Maxwell was procuring these individuals for people other than one individual in particular who is now no longer among the living.
And so, even listening to the testimony, it's clear that there were other players involved, and it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.
That the authorities know who these other people involved were.
Procuring underage individuals for other individuals, you know who was procuring them and you know who was involved in this.
And if anyone thinks that the authorities don't, I've got a bridge to say that I don't actually own, but that doesn't matter because you're gullible.
And so from the testimony that you have now, you have the unnamed witnesses explaining how they were groomed.
You had now an expert come in.
And explain the grooming process, which anybody who's familiar with the process or just exploiting people in general, you know where to look for vulnerable individuals, individuals that are easy to be influenced, individuals with broken families who don't have people to talk to are easier to manipulate, to lure, to all sorts of things.
But listening to this trial...
I can understand why no one could ever broadcast this trial in real time because people would watch and people would hear and people would realize truly, deeply and fundamentally people know what's going on and they've known what's been going on for decades and I mean they know but people are just they're not ignoring it.
People are busy with their day-to-day lives and as much as you have This grassroots, on-the-ground journalism, for lack of a better word, although it's just analysis of court proceedings going on.
People who don't want to hear, people who are too busy to pay attention are not going to get to it.
And the ones who are paying attention, I think, already knew about it.
But basically, they've had witnesses testify that they were flown around.
Jelaine Maxwell groomed them in the sense that, you know...
Did inappropriate things, had increasingly inappropriate discussions, which got them habituated to inappropriateness of their age.
You could feel out who was going to be amenable to being exploited, who would be reluctant, who would be more difficult to exploit.
And this is how predators work.
Predators chase after sheep until the weaker ones start moving slower than the ones that get away.
And that's where they focus their energies afterwards.
Overall, it's a disgusting thing.
Now, I see Drew is in the house, so let me just see if I can go get through some super chats before we get here.
So, the defense attorney in the Smollett trial accused the judge of lunging at her and giving snarling sounds at her client, demanding a mistrial.
I would love to see that.
I didn't hear that.
I will be exquisitely skeptical.
But, you know, the funny thing is, when something's not aired or broadcast, nobody could see this in real time.
What a lie it might be.
And so, sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
Oh!
I just remembered my deep thought of the day.
Democracy does not die in darkness.
Darkness kills democracy.
I should tweet that out before someone steals that from me.
That was my deep thought of the day.
It's not that democracy dies in darkness.
It's that the darkness kills democracy.
Truth doesn't die in darkness.
Darkness kills the truth.
And when you have darkness on a trial like this, it will kill the truth and it will allow people to say, oh, the judge lunged and made a mistrial.
And who's going to be there?
The people on the ground.
Who are going to relay the message of the accuracy or inaccuracy of what was said instead of letting people see it themselves.
How is the shock troops for allies for both world wars?
How is it the shock troops for allies for both world wars become so stick up the butt with guns?
Okay, I don't know what it means.
All right, people, with that said, we are going to...
One more, one more.
Peter, Viva and Barnes' thoughts are very sophisticated.
You approached it.
Okay, Drew, you have someone who doesn't like you already, but we'll see if we can convince them.
With that said, Peter, let's see if we can change your mind.
I know that I was a little judgmental of Drew during his testimony at the trial.
I think I was right, but we're going to get into it because I've never testified in a trial.
Certainly not one of this magnitude.
Drew, can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear you.
Thanks for having me.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, let's see.
Everyone in the audio, no Fs as jokes.
Let me know if the audio is balanced for us.
And I may not be able to bring up as many Super Chats now, so forgiveness, but thank you for the support.
Drew, first of all, thank you for coming.
Thank you for being here.
I was watching your psychopaths at ASU today.
And we're going to get there because it's going to be the natural flow.
For anybody who doesn't know who you are, elevator pitch before we get into it.
Who are you and what are you doing in life?
Well, my name is Drew Hernandez.
I'm the host of Drew Hernandez Live on my YouTube channel.
I'm an investigative reporter.
People may know me of my undercover work on Antifa and Black Lives Matter at the 2020 riots.
I've been involved politically, engaging for a while now.
And I'm pretty sure most people know me of testifying in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial as of recently.
And in a nutshell, that's what I do.
I've got to ask you, I think I know from the interwebs, how old are you?
Because you look young, but I think you're older than you look.
Because of the nature of what I do.
I do a lot of undercover stuff.
I get death threats, so I don't put private information out there publicly.
Okay.
So I'm going to continue guessing then.
Because everyone on the internet guesses, but you have very little gray hair, which is also surprising.
Drew, okay.
So starting from the beginning, how do you get into doing what you do?
Yeah, well, I mean, for me, I take this stuff pretty serious.
I think...
Integrity and honesty in journalism is dead right now, not completely, on both sides.
I could say this left and right.
I think it's becoming more of narrative-driven media and reporting.
And what really got me into more journalism, investigative reporting was...
Obviously, the 2020 riots went down, and from the very beginning, you had CNN coming out, standing in front of burning buildings, saying that these are mostly peaceful, fiery, but mostly peaceful protests.
And I think people take issue with mainstream news organizations propagating and lying to the minds of millions of people.
Listen, I don't care if it's coming from Fox or CNN.
I just want to know the truth and I want to share the truth.
And that's what really got me invested in particularly my journalism and reporting on the ground.
And I think that even until right now, they're trying to act like the riots were not as bad as they really were.
I think it's an important part of American history.
And I might add this as well is...
Black Lives Matter wants to take credit for a lot of the riots that they were a part of.
And I know this because when I'm undercover with these people, they don't shy away from that being known because that's the message that they wanted to get across to the United States of America.
And that's just simply the truth.
So to hear people come out and try and cover for BLM.
There's a lot of BLM activists that are like, yeah, no, we wanted the world to know that this is what we were willing to do to get our communist message across.
And Antifa as well.
Anyone that comes out and says Antifa is a myth is just simply lying or not living in reality.
They're very organized.
They're very real.
They're very active in what they do.
And I got the receipts for that.
I get death threats all the time, not just after the Rittenhouse trial.
I've been getting death threats from Black Lives Matter and Antifa psychopaths.
Yeah, I just kind of fell into this, to be honest.
I didn't go to school for it.
I didn't study for it.
I just kind of had a heart to tell the truth, and here I am.
And when did you get into it?
Like your first, I won't say viral video, but your first experience doing this, and how did it progress?
Yeah, well, I would say...
Post-2016, after the election, I got more involved on social media.
I'd make little videos here and there.
Did a lot of man-on-the-street-style type videos.
Not necessarily reporting, but just kind of going to protests and debating people that disagree with me for the sake of having a conversation.
I had a few viral clips and videos on Instagram.
Not necessarily Twitter.
YouTube had a couple of viral videos.
But what really got me into...
The real journalism reporting was the riots.
That's kind of where my professional career, I would say, really took off.
It was 2020, I would say.
2020 is when things began to change.
And it started to change with, I say, you focused on Antifa.
I say at the beginning when it started to change is you were focusing on Antifa in particular.
Yeah, I mean, in Portland, they rioted for more than 150 days in 2020.
I was there for the majority of them, documenting what they were doing, what they were saying, the violent acts that they were committing, attempting to burn down the federal courthouse with people inside of it.
That's an attempted murder, and the mainstream media would come out and say that these people don't exist and they're peaceful protesters.
Summer of love.
I remember it well.
Chaz, I went to Chaz.
I was there undercover at Chaz.
It's in Portland.
The looting that took place in Santa Monica, Beverly Hills.
But I started getting more active on Twitter.
And once I started getting more active on Twitter is when my reporting started going real mainstream and viral.
Someone had just asked, Drew, how often do you have to lie to protesters you're undercover with?
When you say undercover, do you mean like you show up with a camera or do you mean that you're actually, I won't say infiltrating to make it?
Glamorous, but are you one of them or are you just casually recording as you do these things?
One of them.
I'll just leave it at that.
Okay.
Not committing crimes, okay?
Not committing crimes.
You're not doing the...
Well, it was Jake Paul or Logan Paul who went to document the looting in a shopping center and may have participated in it.
But the question is this now.
The obvious question is, does it not get increasingly difficult to do what you're doing?
Absolutely.
You know, I've had these conversations with Tim Pool.
I mean, Tim is like an OG in this game.
I mean, Tim was covering Antifa long before any of us probably even knew what it was.
He was on the street.
He was in occupied Wall Street.
So Tim, I really love him and appreciate him because I could really ask him questions about how his career evolved and changed.
He's given me advice too.
It's like, dude, at some point, it's going to become too dangerous for you to be out here because you're a public figure now.
It's not that you're doing anything wrong.
It's just that's how your career eventually evolves.
Obviously, now even after the...
Testifying in the Rittenhouse trial, things have definitely increased and gotten more dangerous.
I think it's necessary.
I wasn't the only one covering the riots in 2020.
I think I played a huge part in it, but I think it was necessary.
Imagine if there were no independent videographers on the night that Kyle shot all those psychopaths.
What the narrative would be right now.
And I personally believe Kyle would be in prison right now if it weren't for a lot of independent journalists like myself that night that recorded simply what happened.
I think there's no question about that.
I mean, it is the consensus that the 24-7 360 camera recordings saved him in this case and not condemned him.
You know, unlike in the other McMichaels case where the recording...
Well, the recording in the McMichaels case basically condemned them.
In this case, the evidence exonerated him.
Actually, I just want to bring this one up.
Have you been in protest with Andy Ngo?
It sickens me how Antifa gets away with murder and attempted murder.
I mean, that was the question.
At one point, when Andy Ngo got assaulted for the second time, and Tim Poolett said it wouldn't be him, he's not naive enough to go back and report on the ground given his status, and it turned out to be him.
At some point, you have to say, I have to move off the ground now and then go into higher-level analysis stuff or get the footage from other people.
Yeah, you know, and I take, these are like personal things to me.
These are my friends.
Andy Ngo is a huge friend of mine.
He's helped me with so much in my career.
And yeah, I've been on the ground with Andy multiple times.
But again, you know, the hard part here is, listen to what we're talking about, man.
It's like, we're still in the United States of America.
And it's like, it's like we're having to report on ISIS or something.
Like, this is how dangerous it is in the United States of America, like having to cover Antifa or Black Lives Matter.
And with Andy, it gets to the point where it's extremely violent and you get credible death threats.
And it's not because of what they accuse you of being.
They accuse Andy of being a right-wing propagandist, or they'll accuse me of being a right-wing propagandist because I just post videos of them committing crimes.
And it just makes no sense, but people believe it.
But to go to what's happened with Andy is Andy has been very effective with what he's done and what he continues to do, and that's why they fear him, and that's why they intimidate him, and they threaten his life.
This is why it's sad, is because you have people with hearts that just want to report, and they love what they do, but because there's such violent threats out there...
People end up having to choose a different career path.
Or like you said, let's just go with more professional analysis here.
And then they turn around and accuse you of being a grifter because you're commenting on other people's footage.
Like, well, you kind of have no choice at some point.
But I think it's just a testament to who these people really are.
They're not a myth.
They're violent individuals that have the ability to end your career because they'll just threaten to kill you.
Well, they'll say, Drew, and I know the arguments because we've heard them.
You're a right-wing.
Whatever.
Partisan hack.
Because you only cover the peaceful riots.
You don't cover January 6th.
You don't cover Charlottesville.
Was it Charlottesville?
You only cover the left violence and not the right.
Therefore, you're partisan.
But, I mean, were you on the January 6th in the area on Jan 6th?
Not really.
Well, January 6th, we definitely talked about it.
I've reported on it.
I, you know, talked about how things that happened that maybe could have been done differently.
I think this is just what they do.
They spin these narratives.
They try to just tell people what you are.
They try and just tell people what you believe.
They try to just label you and they're successful with it because people believe it.
And they don't even want to consider what you have to say for yourself.
They just think that if one of their comrades has an opinion about you, that's just gospel, and you're just supposed to believe it.
And this is why I call these people lemmings, because they don't think for themselves.
They don't study for themselves.
They don't research for themselves.
Just some fringe left psychopath on Twitter says something about me or Andy Ngo or even Tim Pool, and that becomes the narrative.
And they don't even...
They don't even have the heart to sit down and have a conversation with someone like me because they just automatically accuse you of being a fringe right-wing psychopath Nazi.
They call me a white supremacist, and obviously I'm not white and I'm brown, but this is what they continue to do.
They slander, they slander, they slander.
Here's why.
It's the same thing that Binger tried to do to me.
Because he knew how credible I really was.
His only option was to try to discredit me in front of the entire world.
And this is what these people do on the left.
They know how credible you really are and how effective you are.
So the only thing they could do is slander you.
Destroy your reputation because that's the only option they have left.
I'm going to bring this one up because I want to clarify my question to you.
It was not an accusation.
Not fair, Viva.
Where has there been any violence from the right to be covered?
I gave you the two examples where there might have been violence from the right that got covered.
But my next point would have been people accuse me of only focusing on right-wing stories like the Jussie Smollett case, Michael Flynn.
I say, well, that's because nobody else is really talking about them.
Nobody needs me to go over the impeachment, although I did that as well.
For the media coverage that January 6th got and Charlottesville got compared to the media coverage that the Summer of Love 2020 riots got, You would think that 2020 riots was one day, and January 6th was 10 months.
The coverage is disproportionate.
It's not like it needs any more coverage.
But the other stuff does.
I say only.
When you put the emphasis on that, which is not being emphasized by the mainstream media, that's how you get pigeonholed.
Here's the thing, too.
People, all my fans, and my fanbase that know me...
They know that I have serious issues with the right.
I have serious issues with Republicans.
I have serious issues with rhinos.
I have serious issues with police officers that violate their constitutional oaths that they take when they take the job and turn around on the American people.
I have serious issues with aspects that conservatives claim to come out and say and they turn around and they act like babies just as much as the left.
It's just the only thing is...
That doesn't get reported.
People would never know that about me because that's not the stuff that gets headlined about me out there.
It's just fringe right-winger.
So I'm by default someone that refuses to criticize anything on the right or in the conservative base, which is just completely not true.
It's not true at all.
I mean, I take some serious issues with what the deep state is doing on both sides.
100%.
I've always been that way, but...
The propaganda says otherwise, and that's what people go with.
Well, and it's the emphasis, because it's not like anyone needs any other media outlets focusing on Trump dossier, whatever.
They're already focusing on that ad nauseum.
The other side needs a little bit of sunshine, like some of the other issues, that being the summer of love.
When you were covering that, one question I've always had is, if you can go into it, what was one of the worst situations you found yourself in?
Man, there was multiple.
Chaz was pretty bad, but I didn't have any close calls there.
I would say Kenosha.
I think Kenosha was really bad.
A lot of people don't know this, but I was there on night one.
I broke that story.
I was there hours after Jacob Blake got shot.
And right when I showed up, immediately when I showed up, they had dumpster trucks on fire, ablaze in the middle of the street.
The rioters are the ones that showed up with rifles in a standoff in the middle of the street with police officers.
The looting, the vandalism, the arson that was commit.
I think for me, that was...
Kenosha was very...
Very, very concerning for me.
Because I was already getting death threats.
I was already, you know, effective.
We exposed Mark Eastlove in Portland when he kicked Adam Hayner in the head.
We exposed that story just maybe a couple weeks before Kenosha.
If I may stop you there, just so everybody remembers that story.
It was the driver of a car who got out with his wife to protect a trans person who was being harassed by the mob.
He was the one basically put on his knees and then sucker kicked is not even the right word.
Karate chop kick.
Field goal kick.
And then he fell, slammed his head on the pavement.
I think everybody remembers that incident.
You were on the news for that as well, talking about it because you captured the footage.
Do you know whatever happened to him?
Did he make a full recovery as far as you know?
Yeah, he did.
I think he just wanted to disappear for a while because Portland is just so crazy.
I don't think he wanted to receive any more threats.
He probably just wanted to fade away.
But Marquis Love, he was charged.
I think he was released recently, I believe.
But that was like maybe a couple weeks before Kenosha.
So I was already receiving a lot of death threats.
So when I was in the midst of everything happening in Kenosha, I feel like I was very...
I was very concerned if people found out who I was while I was out there.
And it was such a high-profile story that was worldwide.
It changed my life.
It literally skyrocketed my career probably beyond anything I could have ever imagined.
But yeah, I would say Kenosha was very, very concerning.
It was a lot of violence.
Everything culminated into Kenosha.
The arson, the looting, the vandalism, the rioting, just the lack of police presence.
People were boarding up their doors writing, kids live here.
People thought they were going to get killed because of the rioters.
So for me, I feel like that was...
There were others.
Chaz was pretty bad.
But for me personally, yeah, Kenosha was at the top.
Now, I want to ask you some questions.
I'll probably ask you better questions than Binger did.
And not for cross-examination, just for understanding your experience in Kenosha.
Because I actually didn't appreciate that Kenosha and Antifa, the Summer of Love, happened pretty...
Within a tight time frame within one's life in terms of that.
So you're living pretty intense in terms of what you're covering and seeing the America I suspect you thought you knew, I don't want to say disintegrate before your very eyes, but turn into something you didn't think it would ever turn into.
One thing I was shocked about, having seen the evidence, having followed that trial day in and day out, was the level of destruction.
I just thought from here, Canada, I thought it was some riots, I thought it was some looting, some whatever.
Didn't realize the extent of it.
Didn't realize the duration of it.
And didn't realize that the police effectively left Kenosians to burn.
In no hyperbolic rhetoric.
Left Kenosians to burn and to fend for themselves.
And I had no idea that the people there arguably were not BLM protesters.
Arguably were not there for any legitimate social reason that could have ever justified that.
But I had no idea the extent and I saw it during that trial.
So you get there on...
Shortly after Jacob Blake is shot, the world is now still in a narrative where he was unarmed, totally innocent, unjustified shooting in the back multiple times, and his dad is with him in the hospital.
Daddy, why did this happen to me?
You've got prominent politicians visiting him in the hospital, tweeting out false narratives that might make LeBron James look like a school child by comparison.
So you get there, and the proverbial poo-poo is hitting the fan.
Absolutely.
I mean, but that's what they were doing all of 2020.
And this is to hear you say that you didn't quite understand the extent of how violent this really was.
It just confirms why I was doing what I was doing.
Because there are millions of people worldwide that the mainstream media was successfully spinning the narrative on.
I mean, Kenosha.
No, there were BLM activists in Antifa that showed.
It weren't just random criminals.
These people were chanting Black Lives Matter when they were looting and burning down buildings.
They were chanting Black Power when they were looting and burning down buildings.
I have all the footage.
It's all there.
I'm not making anything up.
People can go watch it on my Twitter, Drew HLive.
It's all there.
You can just watch it for yourself.
This was.
This is why I'm comfortable saying that it's domestic terrorism.
Because they're willing to use violence to achieve a political agenda.
That's literally what terrorism is.
And they're domestic, and this is what they do.
And listen, the morning when Kyle Rittenhouse, the same day, the same day Kyle Rittenhouse shot the individuals that he shot in self-defense, when I was in Kenosha that morning, I was interviewing specifically Black Lives.
I asked them, are you a Black Lives Matter?
Supporter?
Do you identify with the Black Lives Matter movement?
A woman said yes.
And I said, so do you believe that rioting and arson and looting and vandalism is justifiable for what you guys believe your cause is here in Kenosha?
She said yes.
That's the only way that we can get our voice across.
That tweet is on my Twitter right now.
That's why I told you, bro.
They're open about this.
They're not trying to hide the fact that they're not peaceful.
My experience being with them undercover, the conversations I hear with these people I talk to, they do not try and hide the fact that this is who they are and what they're willing to do to get their political point across and achieve what they want.
I'm going to bring this up.
I don't want to get too distracted off topic, but I am a teacher and live in Oxford, Michigan.
The parents of the school shooter bought the gun for, well, they didn't buy it for him last week.
I think they bought it last week and he took it.
Are there any charges that could be brought?
We're going to talk about that Sunday.
I just wanted to bring this up.
First of all, thank you for the super chat, but I wanted to bring this up to highlight when you talk about domestic terrorism, the charges that that high school shooter is facing, in addition to the murder charges, are terrorism.
And yet you compare that to what happened in Waukesha.
As far as I understand, I don't think terrorism charges or even the discussion are on the table.
And when you...
Terrorism is politicizing violence, and that's what it is.
It's targeting innocent civilians to further a political purpose.
When you weaponize the concept itself for political purposes, I mean, I guess, like, what do you feel of what's going on in the States right now where it's not just that you have these entities weaponizing violence for political purposes, you have the system itself weaponizing the weaponizing of it to say, a white kid who shoots some kids in a high school, we're going to call that terrorism, but Waukesha The car drove itself.
I mean, how do you react to that?
What do you do to digest that and to change that narrative?
The active shooter was white.
It's clear.
And the psychopath homicidal maniac in Waukesha was black.
And so what the fake news media cartel does is they take a look at what happened, and if the suspect is white, they'll run with it and blame it on white supremacy because that's their narrative, that's their propaganda, and millions of people believe it.
But if it's a black person, like in Waukesha, who has all kinds of anti-white, all kinds of racist...
I mean, he was calling to knock white people and elderly white people all over Facebook and Facebook left it up.
And it appears that he actually acted on it and he took his SUV and mowed down a bunch of white people because the guy is a homicidal maniac.
And because he's black, CNN is coming out and saying that it was the SUV that drove through a Christmas Day parade.
People need to understand.
I don't care what your politics are, okay?
I don't care if you're on the left.
I do not care if you're on the right.
I don't care if you identify as Republican or Democrat.
You should be seriously concerned when the media...
Is coming out and propagating lies in order to get you to believe a certain narrative, whether it's left or whether it's right, especially for a political agenda.
That is how we end up in totalitarian fascist states, communist states.
The only thing we're missing right now is a legitimate dictator.
And right now in the United States of America...
All we need is some superstar individual to step in and have the entire mainstream media on his side to communicate to the people everything they want to communicate to the people.
And it just blows my mind that we have people like President Joe Biden, puppet President Joe Biden right now, literally imposing jab mandates against the will of Americans.
And people are like, it's not against their will.
When you're threatening people's livelihood, that's pretty serious, man.
And we don't have BLM saying a word about it.
I mean, we do in New York, but not...
Nationwide, like it was over for George Floyd.
Antifa's silent.
Antifa's 100% silent.
And it's because of narrative.
People are not willing to just be honest and tell the truth.
If it fits their narrative, they go with it.
And it's just so sad.
It's so sad that this is where America has come.
And to me, I think it's only going to get worse.
And I think that truth tellers and people that just really don't care about a political agenda or narrative that just want the truth out are going to be super effective right now coming in the future.
No, I agree, and it's a tough thing.
Just seeing the way they weaponize charges, weaponize prosecution, weaponize the justice system itself.
You imagine the same day when Rittenhouse got acquitted, and they say white supremacy.
If the shooter were black, he would have been in jail, ignoring the fact that the very same day...
Kofi V or Kofi IV, the kid, got acquitted.
Under very, I won't say similar circumstances, but got acquitted.
A black kid got acquitted.
The very, you know, earlier on in the year, a black kid in high school, a high school shooter, out on bond or bail, whatever it was in the state, $75,000 the same day of the shooting.
And it's just, gaslighting is the only word for it.
It makes you feel crazy because if you know these things, you question your own reality, you question your own sanity.
But you see the way that everything has been weaponized now.
And yeah, so you got truth tellers or you inject your opinion according to Binger, but your footage does not have any opinion injected into it.
Okay, so let's get into this trial business.
Was this the first time that you've ever testified in court?
Ever.
Ever.
I've probably maybe been to court like...
Once in my life for traffic violations, I've never done anything like this in my entire life.
Never studied law.
Just, no.
I should say, I was in small claims once for an unpaid legal bill.
It's not fun.
It's not fun having a judge ask you questions.
And I think the small claims at the time, it was a small amount, like a thousand bucks.
It's still not fun.
But you get in there.
Okay, if I may ask and feel free to decline to answer.
Did you prepare for this?
Did anyone prep you for this experience that you were about to endure?
No.
I mean, I just, you know, I got into contact with the defense and, you know, I got my lawyer.
And then once I got my lawyer, I said, hey, here's the footage.
Here's everything I know.
Give it to both of them.
I actually, he was accusing me of being biased.
Because I apparently hired a lawyer that was on the same firm as someone else on the defense team, which I was just unaware of.
I'm being honest.
And I said, I'm unaware of this, completely unaware.
So I'm hearing this.
This is news to me, literally, in the day in the courtroom when that unfolded.
But I'm just giving my God-honest intentions.
I got my lawyer because I wanted to appear unbiased so I could make sure that he gives the footage to both parties.
Now, I'm not...
I'm not a lawyer, bro.
I'm not familiar with how this is all supposed to work, but I'm just saying before God, my intentions were to maybe if I get a lawyer and I have him send them both sides of my footage, maybe that'll be okay, but still didn't work out.
Binger's just an idiot.
We're going to get into it.
Hiring a lawyer, if you can do it, is never the wrong thing to do.
Nobody should represent themselves in their own case.
Even if you are a lawyer.
And I can tell you that from experience and from practice.
I'm going to bring this up.
Cass Arthur says, Mr. Fry, watch the movie done by Nick Siri, an actor who told the truth about Jan 6. The movie is called Capital Punishment.
I will definitely watch it.
Okay, so you're there the night, by the way.
I mean, you're there for the crowd who may not know.
We know all the angles now.
You had two angles, I think, that evening.
But I say two angles.
You had the body cam.
And your cell phone.
One angle, so to speak.
But you had two events in there that made it into evidence, correct?
Yeah.
What I submitted to them was over maybe 80 to 100 videos.
Full body cam of the entire night.
That's what I could provide to both sides was the context of the entire night.
What led up to this.
Rosenbaum's violent behavior, which is not my opinion.
You could watch it, literally watch it.
My intention was to get this footage to both sides.
I wanted the jury to have this in their hands.
And at the same time, that's what I was there to do on top of my eyewitness testimony.
Bro, I could have sat there in that courtroom, pushed play with everything that I sent to them, and said the same things that I was claiming under oath.
Wouldn't have changed a thing.
And they were saying I'm biased, which I'm just telling you, I don't even have to watch the footage when they're playing it.
I already know what happened because I saw it.
So I think that's why Binger saw me as such a threat because he knew everything that I had.
I didn't hold anything from them.
I sent it to both of them.
So he knew everything that I had in possession that told the truth on video.
He knew everything.
And you remember when he was coming at me and he was saying, So you recorded on your body cam and then you recorded on your phone?
And you spliced it together?
I would say splice.
Maybe like digitally sync.
That's kind of a thing.
It doesn't change the narrative at all.
But here's the thing people miss about that.
Binger knew that I sent him all the raw footage.
All of it.
Yet he still said that.
So he knew that he could have taken a look at everything I sent them.
But he chose not to say that in front of the world because of why?
Because he was just trying to discredit me because he knew how much of a threat I was to his case.
And it's not that I came in with an intention.
It's just I came in to tell the truth.
That's what happened.
And he knew that.
The trial's over.
I can ask these questions now.
When did you send them all of your video footage?
Like within the context of the trial itself?
Maybe about a week before I testified.
So you sent it to them a week before you testified.
So give or take within the context of the trial itself, it's not like it happened.
You didn't do it, I guess.
When did you first know that Binger was going to be the prosecutor in the case taking it to trial?
I don't think I knew about Binger until the trial actually started.
Okay.
Yeah, I wasn't really too informed of what was going on exactly, but obviously it was viral.
It was just on everybody's mind all over everyone's feeds.
So yeah, I had no idea.
I didn't know who Binger was until I started seeing him on social media because of the trial.
And yeah.
And so do you get a subpoena?
No.
No, so it's okay.
And you send it to both prosecution and defense for the first time that you know of to both of them.
Yeah, I instructed my lawyer.
You know, we agreed the best thing to do was have my lawyer submit it to the state.
And to the defense, they were both requesting it.
So that's what I did.
And you had 80 hours.
That was 80 hours over?
80 videos.
80 to like 100 videos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So you get the days leading up to it.
But the evening itself, Drew, because I mean, I think we see it and we see it on our computer screens.
It's sort of become not tokenized, but it's sort of become a movie for us people watching and not an actual experience.
You're there that night and you see this all go down.
I'm going to venture a wild guess.
This is the first time you've ever seen anybody get killed.
Get killed, yeah.
Yeah, that was my first time.
I've seen people close get killed.
But yeah, that was the first time I've ever seen somebody get killed like that.
And I'd say on a personal level, after it occurred, and this is August 2020, on a personal perspective, how did you cope with that?
How did you deal with that?
What effect did that have on you?
As a human.
Yeah, I mean, I think I deal pretty well.
I don't know how.
I don't know why.
I think I deal pretty well with trauma.
I don't know why.
Maybe I'm just built for stuff like this.
I didn't really have any PTSD or anything like that.
I think I just...
I try and separate myself from all of the violence.
Maybe I am numb to it.
I don't know.
I just know I've, leading up to that, I was around so much, especially like we said, the Adam Hainer thing, all the violent riots leading up to that, everything that happened in Chaz.
Yeah, I think for me, what really happened after that for me was I just knew immediately where this was going to go.
Because even after the Adam Hainer thing happened, Immediately, Antifa took to Twitter, and what were they saying about Adam Hayner?
A white supremacist showed up with his truck to run over a bunch of BLM protesters.
What did they do to Kyle Rittenhouse after the shooting?
A white supremacist came up as an active shooter to shoot a bunch of black people at the BLM protest.
So I saw what was coming, and I think for me, that's kind of what I was getting ready for to anticipate.
And I just knew that Kyle was going to be this poster child of white supremacy after it happened.
I just knew.
That's just what they do.
That's the playbook.
When did you start uploading some of the footage that you had?
Some of it was that night itself?
That night.
And then maybe a couple clips the next day.
And that was it.
Okay.
So you put it up.
I say go viral.
It sounds very cheap and dodgy, but you put it up and it is now national, if not international news.
Worldwide.
It was international, not just on this night, but the first night as well.
Worldwide.
I was getting messages from shows in Israel, Greenland, all over.
That was pretty gnarly.
Just a stupid question.
Did you license any of it through any agencies?
I saw some footage was being licensed by Storyful, and I didn't know if that was yours, or you kept the rights to your footage, or did not give it out to an agency.
Yeah, no, the Kenosha footage, I kept for myself.
Yeah, I never licensed it out.
So once it hits the national news, and this becomes the story, and you see, you were there, you saw everything that happened, and now you're seeing in real time.
There's no other word but media lies.
Malicious misrepresentation of what happened.
What's going on in your head?
Do you feel like you're living in crazy town?
And see, this is where it becomes personal for me, bro, because this is why people accuse me of having a bias.
I'm on the ground and I'm watching what's happening, okay?
And I have footage to...
Corroborate with everything I'm claiming is taking place at these events.
And so for me, it's very chilling.
It's chilling to watch CNN, to watch MSNBC, or even when Fox gets it wrong.
It's chilling for me to see all these pundits coming out and just straight lying.
Even my mom.
This has affected my mom.
She was hardcore anti-Trump.
You know, she thought all Republicans are, you know, that whole narrative.
And these past few years, she has really woken up to how these people lie because she's directly involved with what I'm doing.
And she sees Drew.
You were just there, and this happened, and I was just watching CNN and MSN, and they're lying.
I was like, yes, mom.
To say that there's fake news media out there is not just some right-wing talking point.
It's real.
It's 100% real.
For me, I think the best word to describe when I see that, it's chilling.
It's really chilling because we're just the little guys.
I know you have a huge channel, bro, and I have a little bit of an audience, but we're talking about...
They got millions of dollars in budget, millions of viewers.
They are the machines.
They're these machines that are reaching millions of people like that.
YouTube could take you and I down in a minute, but these are the people that are really...
I feel comfortable saying engineering the minds of millions of people through their propaganda.
When I see that, when I'm on the ground...
Dude, there's been times where I've been on the ground covering some BLM violence.
And I'm scrolling on my feed, and I see CNN calling it a protest, spinning the narrative.
And I'm sitting here watching it in real time.
I'm like, this is crazy, man.
This is chilling.
My experience, and people appreciate the term chilling, my experience with that from a Canadian perspective is I went to these protests for the lockdown measures.
And there were, my estimate, tens of thousands of people, maybe 100,000.
And CBC, the state-sponsored media, talks about a group of protesters, a crowd gathered.
And when I ran for office, I bust my ass to put out interviews, to put out content, to try to reach 10,000, 20,000 people.
And then CBC, the media itself, will just call the political party extremists and reach the entire country.
And it's not fighting an uphill battle.
It's just like...
You're a pinprick in the side of a boat of the Titanic.
It's not going to do anything.
You have to question your own insanity again.
You have to feel that this is a bizarro universe.
You're there.
You saw it.
I forget what movie it was where the person was like, I was there.
That's not what happened.
You have to deal with this and you have to try to fight it.
Your YouTube channel is reasonably sizable, but you really get the news out on Twitter.
When you get this news out, what is the response?
When it starts getting out there, in addition to having the powers to misinform, they also have the powers to respond.
What was the response when you started getting your videos out there and people started watching it?
It's like breaching the matrix.
I think that's the best thing I can say, right?
Because there's this hive mind narrative that is being peddled to the mainstream.
Even in Canada, dude, everything you just described, this is happening worldwide.
It kind of reminds me, do you remember the Disney movie, A Bug's Life?
Where it was clear that they didn't want the ants to realize that they actually outnumbered the grasshoppers.
And then they're kind of in that sombrero little scene where, you know, what was his name?
Hopper?
Oh, I don't remember that one.
It's a perfect example.
It's cheesy, but it's a perfect example.
The grasshopper, he starts throwing the little grain and the seeds at one of the grasshoppers, and he's like, does that hurt?
He's like, no.
Well, how about this?
He throws another one.
No.
And he throws another one.
He's like, no.
But then the whole casing that's holding hundreds and hundreds of grain, he pulls it down and it crushes the grasshopper.
And he's like, you let one of these ants stand up to you, and then they're all going to get bold and stand up to you.
For me, that's like the perfect example of what the deep state and these authoritarian totalitarian regimes in Canada, in Germany, in France, in the United States of America, that is literally what's happening in this country.
They fear.
Why don't they want the world to see, bro?
Why don't they want the world to see that there are millions of people out there that oppose tyranny?
Because they don't want others to get emboldened to literally push back on their tyrannical regimes.
It's just as simple as that.
And I know that's a cheesy example, but for me, in my young millennial mind, that's how I connect it.
And I think that's why.
I mean, the Nazis did the same thing.
The Nazis were masters of propaganda.
They were masters of utilizing technology.
They had radios.
They had custom radios in every German's house so they could be directly connected with their Führer to hear everything that they wanted the people to hear.
For what purpose?
Just so that they could have a connection?
It's for control.
For dominance.
They want to control the minds of millions of people.
And it's very chilling that right now worldwide, we have CNN, we have mainstream media companies that are acting the very same way, like literally the same way.
They want to control the minds of people because they don't want people to wake up to the reality that they want you to feel like you're the minority.
They want you to feel like you're the only one out there that still has these pro-freedom values.
You're the only one.
You're the outcast.
You're the black sheep.
Look, if there's nobody else out here, There was only, what, a hundred people?
Like you said, there was only a hundred people that showed up to this protest when in reality it was thousands, right?
They don't want people to be emboldened.
They just want people to obey.
And I've always said, like, going back to the Gina Carano post, comparisons to 1930s Germany, they're always troublesome because they lead to problems.
But I'm getting to the point now where, especially seeing what's going on in Canada, I might get to accept the fact that the analogies, There's enough similarities to start making these analogies.
I forget what was that that triggered me today.
It'll come back in a second.
Your videos start going out there.
In the wake of the event, I presume you start feeling backlash.
It's a loaded question.
You start getting DMs backlash?
After every riot or anything that I...
Like I said, everything I do is undercover, and people that are just like, you're just this right-wing fring individual, like, okay, why does Drew need to go undercover?
Because I get death threats, number one.
Number two, Drew has to go undercover because that's the only way you can catch these people doing what they actually do at these places.
Why does Antifa, okay, you go to Portland Antifa right now, why does Antifa call for no press, no videographers?
Why?
Why does Antifa have to cover their identities?
Why do they have to cover themselves with face masks?
This is pre-the pandemic.
They've always done this.
Because they actively commit crimes, and they're willing to do that to get their political point across.
And people need to ask themselves these questions because it doesn't make any sense.
If these people were so peaceful, then why does Drew need to go undercover?
Why do other journalists have to fear for their lives when they're simply reporting on a so-called peaceful organization?
Makes no sense.
It's not that we're the agitators.
It's these people.
I challenge anyone.
If you're a leftist right now, okay?
And I have to be careful saying this publicly.
Don't do this.
I guess I'm just saying this hyperbolically.
If you're a left-leaning individual and you actually think Antifa and BLM are peaceful, the next time Antifa announces a direct action in downtown Portland...
Go to it wearing a Make America Great Again hat and tell me how it goes for you.
It's not going to go well for you.
I can assure you that.
You will get physically assaulted, okay?
And they will tell anyone around their own press to turn their cameras off.
I've seen this so many times.
And I've documented it undercover many times as well.
This is what they do because they are violent.
So we have serious concerns about these people because that's the reality.
I wouldn't have to go undercover if they were peaceful.
I want to bring this one up here because this is an interesting thing.
Seeing how heavily you use the platform, Drew, are you at all concerned with the new direction Twitter may be headed?
Because now that you mention it, the new rule coming in from the new CEO, I forget his name, is that posting videos of private persons without their consent will be removed.
Which leads me to think that all of the videos that you posted in the wake of the Rittenhouse event...
Could have been removed under the new rules because private persons being posted without their consent, even if there's a newsworthy item in there, even if the principal individual has made themselves newsworthy or has become newsworthy, they could justify taking all that down and effectively censoring the truth that you just recorded with your own camera.
I mean, I think it's an obvious thing, but do you see that risk coming into play now?
Yeah, I think what's more concerning is that the new Twitter CEO is on record saying that Twitter is not bound by the First Amendment, especially particularly having their business open in the United States of America.
I think this is no surprise.
These people do not believe in American values.
Freedom of speech is not an American value.
That's a human right, okay, worldwide.
I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat.
I believe in your God-given right to free speech.
But obviously these people don't believe in that.
And even in the context of his statement, he says, the reason why we're not bound to the First Amendment of the United States is because the times are changing.
We want to avoid misinformation.
We want to avoid physical violence carrying out on our platform.
The only problem with that is once you start dictating speech, you get into some serious territory.
Because if you don't allow people to just simply speak, then now you're controlling not only the narratives, but you're controlling what people can or cannot say.
And they make the argument, well, it's not the real world.
I mean, the majority of everyone, that's the new literal town square, the space where people are speaking.
So it's very concerning.
I think, I don't know what the nuances are.
they were very vague about that new rule and that's what they do.
Right.
And you know, this being on YouTube, whenever YouTube changes their rules, it's very vague.
There's nothing specific and you don't find out until you violate something, right?
And then, oh, by the way, you know what I mean?
So that's how I see this going.
No, that's it.
It's nebulous rules strictly so that they can be weaponized for political purposes.
Like, once upon a time with the EUCD, the European Union on copyright, I forget the full acronym.
The issue was...
Then they said, well, what was the issue?
I'm going to forget it now.
The issue is about copyrighted materials where the copyright trolls, in theory, could use copyright law to remove newsworthy items from the internet in a way that would be totally politicized.
So politicians getting caught drunk driving or whatever, someone acquires the copyright to that and then issues strikes to take it down off the internet.
It's not in the rules themselves, but how they can be weaponized given their nebulous nature.
But I do want to bring this up, Peter, because I think if you have swayed one, you have swayed many.
Peter.
The same Peter who said from the beginning, and I'm not going to bring it up.
He says, if one ant stands up, they all might stand up.
Those puny ants outnumber us.
100 to 1. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.
There it is.
Sorry, Drew.
Sorry, Drew.
I misread you.
Peter, thank you very much.
Thank you, Peter.
There it is right there.
Bug's life.
And now I never realized that there was a hidden message in there that applied to the real world.
It applies, dude.
It applies.
That's when Disney was putting out decent content, but now they're just useless.
So you get the events, you put them on the internet.
The world explodes, so to speak, but now your involvement in this, what happens with you involving with Rittenhouse in the year following the event to the trial?
Yeah, you know, I was not very vocal about it.
I just was very observant.
I also saw that, you know, big tech, Facebook was banning anybody.
That said Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent or acted in self-defense.
I mean, Twitter was taking action on individuals.
I think Cassandra Fairbanks was one of the first people that said Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent or she said Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.
I think they banned her or they put her on suspension for an amount of time.
So for me, and this is hard to say and I don't want people to misinterpret what I'm saying.
The way that 2020 was, I was moving from one riot to the next.
So after Kenosha, there was something going down somewhere else in Portland and then on to the next one.
There was something going on in Seattle.
There's something going on in D.C. There's something going on in New York.
So I couldn't really spend too much time on this one particular event.
I was constantly moving, covering many different things.
So I didn't really spend too much time on what happened with Kyle at the time because I was constantly moving.
Um, around the country.
And then obviously, uh, this was near the election.
And so election coverage, you know, we got occupied with all that stuff.
So that's kind of where I was last year.
All right.
And then, um, let's say just bringing it back to the trial, because I want to get to the, your video from today on your channel, which is drew your YouTube channels, what drew H live.
Yeah.
Just drew Hernandez.
Um, if you're lucky, if YouTube doesn't hide my name anymore.
It doesn't come up, Drew.
It took me a link from your Twitter feed.
So you don't get someone.
So how do you know that you're a witness for the trial?
How do you know you're going to be called?
I think someone...
So when the trial started, I started getting tagged all over Twitter.
People are like Drew Hernandez and like Elijah Schaefer and some of the other people that were there were all listed.
As a potential witness in the trial.
So obviously, I'm a public figure.
I'm on Twitter every day.
That's my job.
So that's when I saw, and then someone sent me a clip of it, and I confirmed it.
I was like, oh, wow.
I guess I have been named.
So that's how I found out that I was named as a potential legitimate witness in this trial.
To be called.
To be called.
Yeah, to be called.
And you were called as the...
Defense witness, so they contact you.
Do you go out a day before?
Do you go out for the day of and then leave?
The trial itself, what was that experience like?
Yeah, I think I flew out the night before and then the day after, which was Veterans Day.
Yeah, that's when I testified.
I'm telling you, man, I'm a public speaker.
I've been public speaking for more than a decade.
I've been on Tucker Carlson.
10 times at this point.
I've been all over, but this was different because I was under oath and I'm always telling the truth, but I've never done anything like this.
I wasn't seeing it as a media opportunity.
It was like, this is some serious stuff, man.
For me, it was...
Very intimidating.
I'm just going to be...
I was very intimidated, you know, because I've never done anything like that in my life.
And I don't know how, you know, courtrooms are functioning.
I don't...
That's why, if you noticed in the trial, the judge would have to kind of correct if I...
There was at some point in the trial where I...
You were referring to Kyle as Kyle and Mr. Rosenbaum as...
I was like, oh, okay.
I guess that's like how it's supposed to...
Okay, I get it.
Like, I'm not...
I'm not...
Familiar or read into that kind of stuff, you know?
So, for me, it was intimidating, man.
I mean, it was something that I've never done before.
I knew that the world was watching.
And I was just focused on telling the truth.
Not my truth.
The truth.
Because I had it on video.
But that was my main intention.
Was to get my footage to the jury.
Because they were the ones who needed to see it.
Period.
It was them.
When Binger...
First of all, did you get close enough?
It's gonna...
A totally bizarre question.
Did you get close enough to Binger to smell his cologne?
I didn't.
I didn't, but I told him thank you.
It's a very bizarre thing.
People don't know this, but when I was done testifying and the judge was like, the judge was like, you're excused.
You're excused, sir.
I got off the stand.
I walked past Binger and I said, hey, thank you, man.
Dude, he gave me so many shoutouts.
He shouted out my YouTube and my website multiple times.
I was like, hey, thank you, man.
I didn't have to do that, but if you wanted to, that's fine.
Because I have a thing.
When I have an impression of someone, I want to know.
I need to fill in my olfactory sense because the way I feel about Binger, I have him placed on a certain cologne and not a cologne that I like.
When Binger said to you, you're under oath during your testimony, I tweeted out earlier today, does that irk you as a witness?
Because I know it's something all lawyers do when you have a deposition.
You say, may I remind you that under oath and you try to intimidate them.
And I love that the judge didn't take any of that crap, but did that irk you in the slightest when he said it?
No, no, because I had the footage.
That's why I was, I just, when I say I was intimidated, I wasn't intimidated by...
Binger or the prosecutors.
I've never done anything like this to this magnitude in my whole life.
So that's kind of why I was really anxious and just wanted to make sure that I didn't say something stupid.
But no, when he was saying, you're under oath, I was like, yeah, I know.
I just raised my hand like 30 minutes ago.
Like, dude, I'm not afraid of you.
You're afraid of me.
That's why you're doing this.
I'm telling you, Binger knows.
He knew what I had in my possession because I sent it to them as well.
So that's why he was acting that way.
Period.
We had a dog that was behaving sufficiently badly upstairs that he needs to join the stream.
Yes, thank you.
Your breath smells terrible.
Lawyers do it and you try to intimidate a witness.
I like that the judge intervened.
It's a dirty pressure tactic all lawyers use.
He had no idea who he was dealing with.
He had no idea.
I think he thought he knew who I was, but he did not know the extent of who I was and that I do this professionally for a living.
I debate people on live TV.
I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but...
I just think he wasn't, he had no idea who I was.
First of all, you're smart, you think quickly, and you tell the truth.
And that's a very difficult thing to crack.
Yep.
So, okay, you get on the stand, you get off the stand.
Do you stay for the remainder of the trial, or do you head back and follow it at a distance?
No, I left, so immediately when I got off the stand, I was getting death threats.
Which is nothing new.
So I'm not a victim here.
I'm used to it.
But yeah, my Twitter and my Instagram and Facebook, I was getting messages, people saying, oh, you defended a murderer.
Go kill yourself.
Go kill yourself.
People were sending me pictures of people with targets on their back.
That's pretty self-explanatory.
On Facebook, people were saying, I hope you get shot.
And then once I got off the stand and I was kind of...
I went outside to do a quick...
A little interview with my network because they even mentioned my network in the trial.
Remind everyone, what is your network, Drew?
Real America's Voice.
So when I was out there, there were people driving around.
They were saying, F you, F you.
So I was like, all right, I got to get out of here, dude.
Because there were people.
Kenosha is not the safest place.
It's not the best community and area.
I didn't have any plans.
I didn't want to report on the ground because these people are unpredictable, man.
I'm telling you.
These people are unpredictable.
All it takes is for some crazy person to get it in their mind like the Waukesha psychopath.
You know what I mean?
To just come and do something to me.
I have my family.
It just wasn't...
It wasn't worth staying out there because of what just happened.
We all know what happens.
Kyle gets acquitted and the mob does not relent.
Now he's pulled out of...
ASU is Arizona State University?
University, yep.
The video you put out today...
I've only watched a small amount of your YouTube stuff.
I've been following you on Twitter for a while.
So, we'll get into some of the terminology you use in your video, but this is now the story, is that Rittenhouse has been chased out of university, and you were showing some of the footage of what you call psychopathic mobs at ASU chanting, killer, killer, killer Kyle has no place on campus, yada, yada, yada.
The footage there, were you on the ground for that, or was that...
Yeah, I went undercover because I knew it was going to be some spicy stuff.
I just have an instinct for it, just to be honest.
Sometimes when I pick and choose, I knew it was going to be spicy because here's why.
So apparently Kyle claimed he was taking online courses or classes at ASU.
So ASU has come out publicly and stated that Kyle Rittenhouse is no longer enrolled even online at the campus.
Now, for whatever reason why I can't speak for Kyle right now, I'm sure he'll come out and speak for himself if he hasn't already.
They were the Arizona State University socialists on campus, right?
They announced that they were going to have this protest before ASU already announced that Kyle was no longer enrolled.
So even after the school announced he's no longer going here, they still – this is why it's crazy.
They're psychopaths.
They still have their little protest, right?
And they're saying that ASU is a white supremacist.
A white supremacist university, when she's a person of color enrolled, there's a bunch of black people in the crowd.
I don't understand.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
How do black and brown people get enrolled to ASU if it's a white supremacist university?
That doesn't make any sense.
They're also saying Killer Kyle, Killer Kyle.
They're just regurgitating.
All of the fake news media cartel narratives.
They're saying that his ancestry, he belongs to white people.
He still killed black and brown people.
They're saying that he was a vigilante.
He's a murderer.
Some of the other speakers were coming out and saying, does anybody here really want a killer white supremacist sitting next to them in school?
And they're like, no!
And then it's like Kyle was never even going to physically be there in the first place.
It was going to be an online course, even after the fact that school already said he's not coming online.
So it's like, these people are crazy.
They're crazy.
There's no other explanation.
They don't live in reality.
They're crazy.
I don't care.
Drew, is that your opinion?
Yes, that's my opinion.
This is where I get flack, because you say you have to be sensitive on the people who are not yet red-pilled, and even the ones who are, you can't judge them for what they...
Didn't know at the time.
I look at these people and I say, they literally know nothing of the facts.
Or I presume some of them know nothing of the facts.
And that's where I get into trouble, is people say, even if they know nothing, it's willful ignorance, condemnable.
And most people say, they do know the facts.
They're just liars and they are just trying to get the soundbites out there to unleash the social media mob, to have the implications that it has.
So I don't know which one it is because you can't read people's emotions or their minds.
I just know of a lot of good-natured people who also thought Kyle Rittenhouse was a murderer who shot black people.
I mean, in Montreal, at a pet store, where we got Fish, the clerk.
And it was a totally innocent conversation, and I didn't impress her because I was like, we don't have enough time in our two-minute interaction for this to happen.
But there are people who just don't know, and they just start acting on their own benevolence or their own self-perceived benevolence.
But there are ringleaders and there are puppeteers, people pulling the puppets, who know.
And they know they're misleading people.
And so then the question is, Drew, this is the metaphysical existential question.
How do you crack this paradigm?
How do you end this sequence?
You know, I don't know.
I'm sure your viewers will know what I'm talking about.
Is it Yuri Beznamov?
Have you seen that video?
Yeah, the propaganda.
The KGB defector.
And he laid it out, man.
He's like, the subversion and the propaganda is designed to get people, right?
To get people to believe such lies that no matter, I think he said, if you shower them with facts, you shower them with truth, no matter how much you enlighten them, there comes a point where the mind just simply will not open.
It just simply will not open.
And I think I feel pretty safe.
To say that's where we are in the United States of America.
I mean, listen, this comes down to the individual.
This comes down to an independent, autonomous human desiring to think for themselves.
And I think what's happening in the universities is we have universities, and Canada is even worse.
Canada is, you know, no offense, but I think Canada is probably even worse.
Right?
But in the United States, our universities are not teaching kids.
How to think, they are teaching them what to think, and they're being groomed to live their lives this way.
So when they take this type of thinking, where they're not seeking stuff for themselves, they just regurgitate what they've been told.
This is why they translate over to, they listen to CNN, they listen to MSNBC, they listen to whatever's propagating them that fits their own confirmation bias, and this is how they decide to live their lives.
I think a lot of people right now, They just, and you see this on the right as well sometimes.
I mean, people, listen, Trump supporters don't like me when I come out and I say, I don't like how Trump is not aggressive against the vaccine mandates.
I don't like that at all.
I don't like how Trump came out and pioneered, literally quarterbacked Operation Warp Speed.
I don't like that.
But people don't like when you talk like that because, oh, you can't say anything about the right.
Well, I say it anyways, because it's still the truth.
All right?
And I'm telling you, man, people who know me know that I talk like this, and conservatives hate when I talk like this, but it's just the truth.
Trump has addressed it here and there, but I think he needs to get more aggressive against the jab mandates.
I say that to say this.
On both sides, you cannot just be loyal to a person, a political ideology.
You need to be loyal to the truth, whether left or right.
And that's going to balance you out.
That's going to balance your politics.
That's going to balance your worldview.
That's going to balance you as a human being.
I'm not telling you what to think.
I'm trying to tell you, just think for yourself.
That's my message.
Just literally think for yourself and you'll find out where you land.
And unfortunately, people who...
Speak the truth and want the truth.
Get freaking slandered as white supremacists, alt-right Nazis.
It's just so convenient to do that.
So I think, brother, I'm with you, man.
I think it shouldn't stop us from speaking the truth, whether it's the left or right.
If they want to slander us, oppress us, cancel us for speaking the truth, we don't stop.
The truth is going to set you free.
The truth is going to speak for itself.
It'll penetrate the minds that are willing to listen and to hear.
But I think when we get to this point where we're like, it's kind of like in different states where there's some hardcore Democrat leftist strongholds where people are just demoralized.
They're like, dude, what's the point?
What's the point anymore?
It's like, no, let's not give up.
Let's continue.
Let's continue speaking.
Let's continue pushing the truth because there are still people.
They want us to feel like this.
They want us to feel like we are the minority.
They want us to feel like we're ostracized, like there's nobody else out there that feels like you.
That's just not true.
It's just simply not true.
But they try and design it that way.
So I think...
I have hope for humanity, man.
I have hope in God that God, at the end of the day, has the ability to unlock the mind no matter what.
That's my prayer.
That's my hope.
That's why I do what I do.
So I think what you do is great to inform people because when you're just trying to inform people, that shows people that you're not there to propagate them or control their mind.
You're there to just give them something to think about.
I think that's what we need to keep doing, man.
I think that's a good solution.
I'm going to bring this one up.
David, I'm an Arizona State alum, Rittenhouse now, ASU's Pat Tillman statue.
Next, many concerned.
And Troy, go Sun Devils.
Well, so, and you sort of got to one of my other questions that I was watching.
Who watched the body cam footage from the Arizona shooting and thought they were watching Reno 9, Arizona?
Yeah, I think that was, was that the, in Tucson, I think he shot a man in a wheelchair or something?
Okay, so I've seen constant.
I haven't seen it yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Drew, a very personal question.
Are you a religious man in the religion sense?
Yeah, I'm a born-again Christian.
I gave my life to the Lord Jesus Christ in February 2012, February 1st, 2012.
So that plays a huge part in what I do and why I do it.
God has called me, specifically in the New Testament, to be a light in an age of perverted crookedness.
And so that's what I try and do.
I just try and shed light to what's taking place.
And, you know, I always ask people, and it's kind of been an experiment in my heart and my mind, you know, like, what happens when you take a born-again Christian and airdrop him into something like these riots?
And I think this is what it looks like.
Okay, that's well put.
And I'll tell you this, I'm not a religious person in the organized religion sense.
But I fundamentally respect it.
And I respect it.
If it inspires and if it guides for the truth, then you can ask for more.
And I think maybe that's actually what all of this is all about at the end of the day.
I may not be religious, but I might still be spiritual.
What do you see for yourself in the upcoming days, weeks, months?
What are you up to now?
I have some huge...
I'm just going to say this.
Huge projects in the works.
I can't announce them yet, but these are things that are going to change a lot for me, my family, regarding Kenosha, regarding some projects that I've been wanting to do for a while, and I can't announce anything yet.
But people, just follow me on my socials, and you'll hear about it once I can announce them.
But we're taking things to the next level, and I'm super blessed.
I'm excited because I think it's necessary.
It's necessary what we're about to do.
Okay, and now remind people where they can find you on the socials.
Yeah, everybody can find you.
I will pin it to the top of this video so that people can find it more easily, but where can they find you?
Yeah, sweet.
The majority of my on-the-ground, real-time reporting takes place on Twitter at DrewHLive or Getter at DrewHLive.
You guys can watch my nightly show on YouTube.
Just search Drew Hernandez or go to YouTube.com backslash Drew Hernandez if you're...
I don't even tell people to use the search bar.
These people hate me, dude.
I'm just buried.
If you can find me, you're one of the lucky ones.
Like you said, the link will be in the description.
Everyone in the chat, Drew, you'll come back because we'll have more to talk about.
I think we've gotten the essentials.
For anyone who didn't know who you are and what you're doing, they know.
A light, I won't say a light at the end of the tunnel, a light within the tunnel.
Drew, thank you very much.
Everyone in the chat, thank you.
Drew, stick around.
We'll say our proper goodbyes.
Everyone else, Sunday night live with Robert.
What else?
Tomorrow?
Oh, tomorrow I'm going live with The Quartering at 4 o 'clock in the afternoon Eastern Time, so that should be fun also.
Drew, stick around.
We'll say our goodbyes.
And everyone in the chat, thank you very much and enjoy the rest of the week, people.