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Sept. 1, 2021 - Viva & Barnes

01:29:22

Sidebar with... MY WIFE!

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	We are live on the minute.
	And if anyone had the slightest idea of how much multitasking has been going on for the last one hour, to make this happen, you would be, I think, flabbergasted.
	Maybe not impressed, but at the very least flabbergasted.
	Let's see, we got F's around the house.
	Good.
	Hello, PSF.
	Oh, hold on.
	Where did it go?
	Where did it go?
	Okay.
	There's a lot to manage here.
	I am never late.
	I'm always on time.
	My time.
	F. F. Booyah.
	10 seconds late.
	No, I wasn't Canadian.
	Not late.
	Booyah.
	All right, people.
	Let's do this.
	This is going to be amazing.
	Robert Barnes is in trial this week.
	And so it sent like the perfect opportunity to do a sidebar with my wife, who also, everyone should know, it's our 14th year anniversary tomorrow.
	14th year of marriage.
	Which seems like an opportune time to do this.
	To take some AMA questions.
	I see her logging in in the background.
	She is ready.
	Watching live now.
	Let me just make sure that everything is working here.
	I want to bring up one super chat.
	Typical politicians will make excuses for me.
	I was on time.
	Meticulously on time.
	I want to go to Rumble to see if we are simul streaming.
	On the Rumbles.
	Let me just go open that up now.
	And then I'm going to try to keep up with the chat on Rumble.
	By watching it on my phone.
	Oh, let's see.
	Press play.
	We're live.
	This is amazing.
	The world and technology is amazing.
	All right.
	While people tune in and while everyone gets warmed up, first of all, I will be taking a lot of questions.
	We will be taking questions because this is going to be an AMA.
	And it's going to be an AMA for me as well because I'm going to be asking Marion anything.
	I just made that up on the spot.
	Honest to goodness.
	Let me see what we got.
	Okay, everything looks good.
	Everything looks good.
	Next bar, sidebar with Ethan.
	Oh, gosh.
	You may hear him through the floor because I don't know who's watching the kids.
	That might be our first question.
	Okay, you know, we might not get more than an hour.
	Marion might...
	We do this thing called tag team parenting, but right now it's just like hands-off tag team parenting.
	But at one point, one of us might have to go back sooner than later.
	So let us...
	Without further ado, this money is for Mrs. Viva for being a trooper and putting up with David for 14 years, which might bring us into the first question.
	Let's just bring Marion, my wife, into the chat.
	You know we can see you now, right?
	I'm texting one of the children, the oldest child, to make sure that the youngest two are taken care of.
	All right, Marion, just do me a favor.
	Bring your screen down a little bit so that you are more properly framed.
	Lower, lower.
	Yes?
	There you go.
	Nope, too low.
	Perfect.
	We had planned our entry where I was going to ask Marion how she's doing and she was going to say good, good.
	Oh yeah, we forgot that.
	Good, good.
	Marion, how you doing?
	Good, good.
	Let me start off by asking you the most obvious question.
	Ever in a million years did you think we would be doing a live stream together on YouTube asking, answering and taking questions from a crowd?
	No, that was definitely not something that I thought about 14, 20 years ago.
	It didn't even exist.
	When we first met, YouTube didn't exist.
	The internet was in its infancy.
	You know, we're getting ahead of the stream.
	Let's back up all the way to the very beginning.
	Marion, where are you from?
	From the very beginning?
	So I'm not from Montreal.
	I'm from a small town.
	I grew up in a small town of 3,000 people, just about an hour outside of Montreal.
	So it was like the country life.
	And I didn't move to Montreal until I was 16 or 17. I moved out really young to go to university or what we have here is like a pre-college.
	And that's where I met David.
	I'm on mute still.
	Hold on.
	You skipped a lot.
	You're from a small town.
	Tell everybody how small.
	And to ask a leading question, it was a border town.
	It was a border town.
	Yeah.
	So the town is 3,000 people, I think, or 1,000.
	And it's right on the border of Vermont.
	So we live really close to Lake Champlain, which is the...
	The lake and it has a very small part in Canada.
	And the leading question, I think what you're getting at is because when I met David, the first time he came to our small town, I think everyone was talking about the fact that most of the town had been arrested because there was some drug scandal and people, everyone in the small town had been...
	Transporting drugs across the border.
	So there was literally a school bus that went through the town and then people were just picked up.
	The guy who was working at the pizza store was selling drugs.
	Everyone was selling drugs, basically.
	I'm coming from Montreal.
	I've never known anything like this in my life.
	How old were we when we met?
	I was 17. You were much older than 19, I think.
	I was a university student, and she was just heading off to Sejap.
	And I remember this, the first time we met, and it was at the time when roughly half of the town that you came from was arrested.
	And I was just thankful that your dad was not arrested, which meant that the relationship would not have an early hiccup.
	You left your house to go to the city when you were 16 years old.
	No, that's an exaggeration.
	I think I was 17. My roommate, my best.
	So growing up, the best thing about growing up in a small town is you have very close friends.
	So my friends from when I was a baby, like even before baby, our parents were friends and our grandparents were friends, are still my best friends.
	So I moved out and moved in with my best friends and we lived together.
	She was 16 and I was 17. Like going into school.
	I gotta bring this up.
	This is Marion.
	Kisses her passionately.
	She is my wife.
	She is number four, madam.
	I have been biting my tongue not to make those jokes because they can be misinterpreted on the social medias.
	But yes, all day, all week, I'm going to be doing a sidebar with my wife.
	14 years of marriage.
	Happy anniversary.
	Thank you very much.
	We got, how do you petition to court for a writ of mandamus for my spouse?
	He won't pay the bills or end my...
	No legal advice.
	I forgot to give the caveat, but thank you very much for the super chat.
	Now, there was one other one.
	I've been taking pictures because they're going to disappear.
	Time to dig up the dirt on this new PPC politician and his wife.
	We're getting there.
	We're going to get there.
	He's from a drug town.
	My town is very nice otherwise.
	I feel like that's a bad way to start.
	This was kind of surprising for everyone else in the community.
	It is a beautiful town.
	Everything out there is beautiful.
	Where your mom lives now is even more beautiful because the fishing is more accessible and magnificent.
	Mrs. F., you are a saint.
	May I say how much we appreciate you allowing us to steal so much of your husband's time?
	Happy anniversary.
	Thank you for occupying his time, too, I have to say.
	He loves what he does, and that helps a lot.
	No, sorry, I cut you off.
	What were you going to say?
	I just said it's nice to have you doing something that you love so much.
	I guess we could talk a little bit about times when you didn't love your work so much.
	Okay, so we met in 1999.
	That's a good guess.
	Somebody knows the townships.
	Okay, so we started dating in 1999.
	I think it was after about six years of marriage my grandmother said, When are you going to get married?
	I don't think either of our parents really ever asked, but if I may ask you a loaded question, Marianne, when did you know that you were going to marry me?
	This is going to sound crazy, but I basically, I think I knew right away.
	I came from this small town, and then I met David at this house party, and that was it.
	I was just like, I'm pretty simple.
	He just was like no one I'd ever met before.
	So that was it.
	You're going to make me cry down in the basement here.
	And then it was, we met when we were 17. So we did wait.
	We waited how long?
	Or we were dating for how long before we got married?
	It was a long time.
	Oh, we dated a long time.
	And it was, I mean, it was on and off.
	I think it was only on and off.
	But I was very patient.
	There were breakups, but nothing dramatic.
	We were on, I mean, as of, there were no, the first breakups happened in the first like year and a half, first year to three years, and there were pauses.
	And then I think as of 2002, it was pretty much straight on.
	When did we got married?
	In 2007.
	I should know that.
	September 2nd, tomorrow.
	Okay, tomorrow.
	I have to go.
	I have to go outside right now, guys.
	I'll be back in a bit.
	Okay, so now I think people do know what you do in life, but tell people what you do.
	Tell people, How you've been doing it and tell people what it's like to do what you do, being a mother of three kids and working basically four full-time jobs at the same time.
	Well, I don't know if people know what I do, but I think you've said I'm a neuroscientist.
	I'm a scientist.
	I've studied at McGill for a really long time.
	McGill is one of the universities.
	There's lots of universities in Montreal.
	The English University in Montreal.
	And when I met David, I was not quite in university.
	So he helped convince me to go to McGill.
	And he had already been studying there for a year.
	So when I met him, he was in philosophy.
	Philosophy and history.
	And I studied physiology and psychology for an undergrad.
	And then went on and did a PhD.
	A PhD in...
	I was in neurophysiology, where I studied eye movements and how the brain encodes eye movements.
	The brain is made up of all different brain areas, but there's this one part of your brain, your brainstem, that controls how you move your eyes.
	People don't really think about it, but you move your eyes all of the time, and so we need to have a better understanding of...
	What are the mechanisms?
	How do the brain cells actually drive eye movements?
	So we have motor neurons that project directly to eye muscles.
	And I did a long PhD studying how the brain controls different types of eye movements, which is probably not something...
	people think about.
	So if you look around the room, you're making all kinds of eye movements.
	And now you'll be very conscious And I fully appreciated it for the first time.
	When you track your eyes from one object to the next, you have all of these individual distinct eye movements and it's not smooth unless you're following an object as you move and then you're not moving your eyes.
	If you're following it, you make smooth pursuit.
	If you were following a train or a bird or something.
	Well, I have had smooth pursuit of you since the very beginning and I never knew it then.
	Good boy.
	How long have you been studying for?
	I know people out there have no idea how long you've been studying your postdoc or PhD.
	How long have you been studying for?
	Forever.
	I've just been in school forever.
	I feel like I'm still a student.
	Today was the first day back at McGill for a lot of...
	Undergrads and grad students and the campus was, I was, it was really great.
	There were people everywhere.
	I walked through lower campus and it just was a nice feeling to see so many students out and back on campus.
	And I've been at Miguel since 2000, so like 20 years doing my undergrad and then a PhD.
	And now I'm doing what's called a postdoc.
	So after your PhD, I'm doing research in a different area.
	I changed and now I'm studying more how brains develop and neuroplasticity, developmental neuroplasticity, how our brain changes in response to experiences.
	It was pretty different from my PhD, so it's still in the general field of neuroscience, but it's changed and I'm looking more at mechanisms and a little bit more cellular than for my PhD.
	It looked like your eyes were closed.
	Were you asleep?
	I think the kids are watching the internet.
	The bandwidth is being occupied by three live events.
	I know this because I lived through it, Marion, but tell everyone what it's like being a mother, working full-time, and how do you balance that?
	And what is the environment for working moms?
	In research?
	It's a lot harder than I thought.
	So going back to childhood, I grew up, my mom didn't work, my dad worked.
	And I was always just under the impression that I would work.
	I love working.
	And once we had our first kid, it seemed it was pretty good.
	I continued, I was finishing my PhD and started a postdoc and David was working.
	And with one, we could kind of...
	Also, we have really great childcare services in Quebec.
	We have something called like a $7 a day daycare service.
	So we were able to, our kid was in daycare.
	And that was okay, but it gets harder and harder with each kid.
	And I think we both have...
	Made sacrifices in our career to prioritize our family, and I have no regrets for that.
	But I think at some points, you kind of think that it'd be easier to have kids and work and do it all.
	But, you know, I think everything comes in waves.
	And I was there and I saw everything.
	How painful was childbirth?
	No joke.
	For people out there who are thinking about it, young people looking to become mothers, how painful is the actual experience of delivery?
	Because I saw it.
	It's such a random...
	It was eye-opening.
	How about I tell the story about when you put the camera on the surgical table?
	So early on...
	Gave him a GoPro, and he's always been into cameras and videos and making movies.
	So obviously when we went to the delivery room, he had just bags of cameras and GoPros, and he was very excited about putting together a video of the whole experience.
	I think this was before you had a YouTube channel, maybe?
	It was about February.
	I got the GoPro February 2014.
	So no, I think I had the YouTube channel, but this was with the second or third kid.
	Yeah.
	Either way.
	I don't remember which one.
	But anyways, you put the GoPro.
	You were very excited for getting it in the right spot.
	And so you put the GoPro on the surgical table and the doctor came in and you're like, what is this?
	You can't put a GoPro here.
	Let's add a little more detail.
	So Marion's up in the stirrups and they have the tray of sterile utensils where they're going to be delivering the child.
	So I was like, great.
	I'm going to just put it here so I can get like a time lapse.
	Perfect angle.
	I was going to bleep out, obviously, what has to be bleeped out.
	And then the doctor comes in and he's getting ready to take out some of the surgical tools.
	And he's like, he says, what is this?
	I said, oh, that's my GoPro.
	He's like, you can't leave that here.
	This is sterile.
	I learned a valuable lesson that day.
	But now let's get some questions.
	I think he managed to find another spot.
	I think there's video.
	I don't think I've actually seen the footage.
	I found another spot and it was actually...
	From a director's point of view, it was the respectful shot, like it was over the shoulder where you're looking through the legs, but from the shoulder side, not from the front side, which I quickly learned.
	That is not the place for the camera for anybody who doesn't want to be exposed to that world.
	My goodness.
	So, Joe, seriously, though, do you remember any of the pain or the discomfort of what it's like to actually deliver a human being through your private spot?
	So you don't remember pain, like the physical pain, but there's a memory of the whole event.
	And I remember, and each time thinking that I would not do it again, but I did.
	So the pain does go away, the emotional pain.
	And you're overcome with joy, so you decide to have another.
	But it's, yeah, obviously, every delivery is different.
	It's worth it in the long run, I guess.
	I like to pretend that I know the pain of childbirth because, Marion, you were living with me for those two weeks.
	When I had my rubber band ligation surgery, it was the most excruciating thing that I've ever experienced in my life.
	And I don't want to deter anybody from having this surgery, this procedure, which they said was a day procedure.
	You won't feel a thing.
	We're going to help you with your hemorrhoids and a rubber band ligation.
	Read up on it.
	It was excruciating two weeks.
	I think I gave birth every time I went to the bathroom, and I think I can feel the pain of childbirth as a result of that.
	But I am assured by women who have gone through childbirth that, no, what you experienced there might have been discomfort, but not childbirth.
	It's a good segue into the GoPro and into this tangent of our life, because it started slowly and then it happened quickly.
	When we met, I was in philosophy.
	You were in CEGEP, not in university.
	We were together through four years of philosophy, four years of law, internship, four years apart because I lived in Quebec City and you were in Montreal.
	First of all, what is it like being married to a lawyer in general?
	Broad question.
	Well, I think, I mean, everything has changed so much.
	It's even hard to remember.
	What I do remember is, like, we just did everything that we were supposed to do in the beginning.
	You went, you know, in terms of you going to law school, and then you got your stash, and you got your stash at a good law firm, and you did your stash, and everything seemed like you were doing what you were...
	You know, just going through the motions.
	But what I remember was the long hours and thinking that wasn't really...
	I couldn't see you there long term because I remember you...
	I just remember the interactions with the people there and how there was this ladder you had to slowly, slowly go up and I just couldn't see you.
	Being contained like that.
	You were a free spirit.
	You're still a free spirit.
	Which brings us to...
	I've been taking pictures of the questions as we go.
	Let me see if I can get these.
	I don't see any of the questions.
	How do I...
	Well, you may not...
	Oh, you have to go to the right-hand side of your stream yard where you see chat and private chat.
	Go to the comments on the right-hand thing and you'll see the comments.
	Oh, you haven't been seeing the chat.
	It might distract you.
	Don't go.
	So Johnny B. Good says, Viva, what's a guy got to do to get a signed photo?
	I want to do a fundraiser for a couple of local charities.
	I have to figure out which one we can do this for because I genuinely believe charity starts at home and with the kids.
	So it's either going to be...
	I've reached out to two charities just to see which one we can do this for.
	But when we do that, that might be the only time where I'm going to have the audacity or the pomposity to think my signature is important.
	Okay, now there was a good question here.
	It says...
	Oh, here.
	No, we got that one.
	We got that one.
	Sorry.
	Hold on one second.
	JinVR says, Miss F, you're a saint.
	May I say how much we appreciate you allowing us to steal your husband?
	Okay, sorry.
	I got that one.
	Where was the one?
	Oh, I just...
	Gosh darn.
	I'll go backwards.
	Question from Mrs. Fry.
	What crimes has Viva committed?
	Congrats on 14 years.
	And that is from not a journalist.
	No, but there was...
	It was a question along those lines, Varian.
	Do donate...
	This is from George.
	Do donations from YouTube and PPC...
	Do donations to YouTube Viva and PPC Viva.
	Both count towards the campaign.
	You should get elected based on the drone fishing alone.
	No.
	Anybody who wants to donate to the campaign, strictly through the campaign.
	Everything on Viva Fry is totally separate, and Viva PPC does not have Super Chat, and I'm not going to enable monetization on that channel either.
	Here we go.
	Robert Gonzalez says, Marion, you're going to field this one.
	When David says he was, quote, bad, end quote, for a period of time, considering he's Canadian, does that mean he only apologized twice instead of three times?
	Now, you never knew me during my bad period, correct?
	Your bad period?
	No, I've only heard, I mean, I heard stories.
	What story did you hear?
	I know if I were your parents, I would have been worried.
	And I'm bracing myself for my own children, because based on what you put your parents through, although they just seem so chill about it.
	Like, youngest of five, and I think you're just, oh, he'll be fine.
	But now that we're going through finding schools, and the fact that you've changed schools a few times, and I don't know.
	What else you've publicly...
	I think, by the way, I hear one of the children coming up to you, if I'm not mistaken.
	Let me just bring up your girlfriend's boyfriend.
	I love that name.
	A successful, happy, healthy, beautiful, and brave family.
	It's so amazing to be a hold of you.
	You have a poster family to strive for.
	Much love and respect.
	We have the same stresses that everybody out there has.
	Life is stress, but we are, touch wood, exquisitely fortunate.
	And all said and done, everyone's struggling to make it through these last two years.
	I'll just brief the audience.
	I went through three high schools in five years.
	And by the time I hit SEJEP, which is after high school, before university, that's when I leveled out in terms of buckling down.
	But I say at that point in life, when you get to that age, that creativity and a certain amount of energy is rewarded and not punished.
	When you are...
	Overly rambunctious, hyperactive, and energetic as a kid.
	I even see it in our kids.
	It's sometimes very irritating because you need stimulation.
	You get bored very easily.
	And when you get bored, you get angry and you get cranky.
	And so I see it in a parent.
	The only thing is, you know...
	You still do.
	You still do.
	It's the tough thing.
	It's like you have to not get frustrated as a parent, but it's...
	Parenting is frustration and love in equal doses.
	Parenting is definitely difficult.
	It takes a lot of patience and it's worth it.
	Getting into the last two years, Mare, we can't ignore what's going on.
	There's a kid coming upstairs to see you now.
	How have the last two years been for you, for us, on kids?
	What are your concerns and what are your fears?
	For what's happening.
	While Marion fields that question.
	Oh, I printed the wrong thing for school.
	Grade five, I mean, I'm sick.
	I don't know, grade eight.
	So one of our kids just answered high school.
	We're back to school and we've already hit our first problem.
	Okay, I'll take you out.
	I'll bring you back when I see you.
	I think, can you wait a half an hour?
	She can wait a half an hour.
	She's going to get up a half hour early to do her homework.
	This is what happens.
	Tell her this is what happens when you wait to the last minute to do your homework.
	It's only the second day of school.
	I don't know.
	Homework.
	I always said about homework.
	Imagine having a job where you go to your job eight hours a day and as you leave, your boss says to you, yeah, I'm going to have to ask you to go ahead and do a review and bring it in tomorrow morning.
	Like, okay, we got a question here.
	What percentage French, Native American, or Romanian?
	Marion looks a little Romanian to me.
	Also, what does Marion think and feel about Viva's more recent political worldview evolution?
	Good question.
	That was where we were getting with the last thing.
	Marion, origins, ethnic origins for anyone who's interested.
	Yeah, so not that I know of, no Romanian.
	I think many generations, Canadian and American.
	So I think on my father's side, they came over probably from Horn.
	The Netherlands.
	The Netherlands, yeah.
	But that was probably 1700, I think.
	I know.
	When I found out how long people had been in countries for, I was shocked.
	As far as I can go back, I know my grandparents came from, or my great-grandparents came over from, I think they were living in Baltimore, and they came over after World War I. And your family has something of a forbidden love in it.
	I won't say as well because we didn't have a forbidden love, but they had a forbidden love where the Catholic and the Irish married in a time and an era when Catholics and Irish did not intermarry.
	Yeah, so my grandmother, I think...
	My grandmother was not Catholic, and my grandfather was Catholic, so they had to get married in the back of the church as opposed to the front of the church.
	It was very scandalous.
	Other than that, history-wise, we've been in Canada.
	My grandparents and great-grandparents were in Canada.
	I don't think I've ever really discussed my full ancestry, but we're second-generation Canadian.
	My grandfather was from Poland.
	My grandfather on my father's side was from Poland.
	Or it was Austria when he was born, became Poland, became part of the Ukraine.
	It was LODZ.
	It changed hands multiple times.
	My grandmother on my father's side was from Russia.
	My grandmother on my mother's side was of Romanian descent.
	My grandfather on my mother's side, who died when she was 13, was Eastern European as well.
	So we're all Eastern European.
	But now, this is the question, and this is what people are wondering, and this is the point of discussion.
	Oh, no, this isn't it.
	Sorry.
	About the political move, Marion, I guess it's the culmination.
	The last two years.
	First of all, what's it like when you tell people that your husband makes YouTube videos and they give you a funny eye?
	Well, now I think it's fun.
	I tell people my husband makes YouTube videos and most people don't know what to say.
	I don't know.
	I'm proud of you.
	You've grown this into something that you really love.
	And I'm always happy to share with people who are interested.
	And I love people who are also trying to grow YouTube channels or trying to do something different, especially young people who need inspiration.
	But also seeing how hard it's been to get to a point where it's actually a sustainable career and how hard you work.
	I don't think people always appreciate that.
	Especially people who even know you very well.
	I think people still think that this is still a hobby.
	You know, are you still doing those cute YouTube videos?
	And sometimes I think people even say that in the comments.
	Sometimes I sound like I'm maybe patronizing, which I don't mean to.
	But I think that I don't think people always appreciate how much work goes into it and how hard it is to grow a YouTube channel.
	It's just like when people ask or a lot of people think, oh, my kid wants to start a YouTube channel.
	They don't want to encourage it.
	Have them start a YouTube channel.
	It's really hard editing videos.
	And I've seen the struggle.
	So it's really amazing to have grown something like this and to do something that you love on the side.
	We're going to get to this one.
	What do you do when Viva's upset?
	We'll get to that because that comes down to the last year.
	But Justin Trudeau's in the house.
	Can you please give me some tips on how to get Viva to run for our party instead?
	We need his platform to coerce the youth.
	He's always looking for advice.
	Oh, sorry, say that again?
	He's always looking for advice.
	I said all he had to do is, all anybody has to do is have political integrity and I would be on board.
	Okay, so Mare, the last two years have not been fun, they have not been easy, and they've been getting actually worse.
	And they don't seem to have started getting better yet.
	What has been your view, your reaction to what's been going on for adults, but in particular for our kids and for kids in general?
	It hasn't been an easy two years.
	Is that...
	I mean, in terms of pandemics and lockdowns and struggling, I think as...
	Parents and families, well, for everyone it's been difficult.
	I think the lockdowns were really hard and I think there wasn't an appreciation about how important it is to have our social community and our people.
	We need to be together as a community.
	And so I feel like we've been really lucky Personally, because we do live in a small part of town where we have neighbors and we have kept a community.
	Our kid has been able to go to daycare.
	Our schools were closed on and off, but we've been able to do some online learning.
	And also we've had the option to have flexible schedules and to be really with our children.
	But I don't think that's the case for everyone, and I know how hard it's been for families, for people who are working, for people who are trying to balance both.
	It's just, it's a lot.
	It's too much for most people.
	And I don't want to get into, we don't want to talk about the science because we don't talk about the science, but I guess we'll stop.
	I don't want to get into any potential science of what we think might be long-term ramifications.
	I'm happy to talk about a little bit.
	In terms of what I do as a neuroscientist, I don't study, so I don't work in humans.
	I work on a really basic level.
	I'm studying mechanisms.
	So how does the brain on a cellular and molecular level change in response to expenses?
	And so on a day-to-day, the things that I do are really nitty-gritty detailed.
	But if I step back and look at the big picture, what we know is that our early life experiences and our environment really impact the way our brain is set up, how it's customized, how it wires together.
	And so early life stressors like something like this could Potentially be a big impact on how our brain develops.
	And so I think about that a lot during this pandemic.
	And I've had to, you know, try and balance how I want to move forward in my career that also be really supportive for my kids.
	And that's something that I've prioritized.
	And I think a lot of people have.
	But it is hard when you kind of pictured yourself advancing career-wise and pushing forward.
	And then all of a sudden you really have to stop because I think our kids really needed us this last year.
	And I think if you ask them, they haven't had a lot of hardships because we've really had to step up and be there.
	We had to be their friends and their parents.
	And we played a lot of different roles this year.
	Their sports coaches and things that we would rely on, grandparents, friends, all those things were taken.
	I don't want to say we took for granted, but they were really important to us and then all of a sudden they weren't.
	We never took it for granted because we just assumed it was a constant in life that the government doesn't tell you you can't see friends and family anymore.
	I just took that as a granted.
	You're right, we were tremendously fortunate that we have a small community here.
	We may or may not have followed all of these rules to a T. From our perspective, Anybody who's wondering, we made sure that the kids socialized and did not get traumatized by this event.
	And the toughest thing is trying to sensitize kids to say, this is not normal.
	This should never be normal.
	And when we get through this, we're going to make sure that our kids have learned the right lessons and have not been traumatized by this.
	But it was the first revelation I had in all of this where you said, yeah, this is, you know, this constant stress is going to change our brains.
	And then when I first started having dreams of a lockdown.
	Dreams of politicians and dreams of COVID.
	And it's like, yeah, my brain is getting, I don't say rewired or getting de-wired.
	My brain was reflecting the trauma.
	But for people out there, like...
	Sorry, I was going to say, I think no one would disagree that this is trauma.
	And you have to, for some people, it's more traumatic if they've lost their job and they've lost...
	Friends and family for whatever reasons.
	It's been tragic.
	And it's like this ongoing chronic stress for a lot of people.
	And so you have to manage it.
	And then the other thing is this unknown.
	Like, when is this going to go on for?
	And it is ongoing.
	So you have to constantly be readapting and calculating the duration of something.
	So the duration of this is unknown.
	For us, very uncomfortable.
	And so you have to find things that you can rely on.
	And it's just, it's difficult.
	But I guess, we were talking about rewiring your brain.
	I think that's something that we can do too.
	And I think in terms of our children, well, first in terms of our children, to talk about...
	How we can just model things and during these early years, I think someone was talking about, you know, should a two-year-old wear a mask and things like that.
	I think most importantly, it's their family structure and what they see at home and like small interactions with the mask.
	It's fine.
	There's going to be no long-lasting problems, but your children really rely on you and your family structure and your modeling.
	things for them.
	So that's something we keep in mind a lot.
	Here, I'm going to get a few.
	First of all, there was Non Loser on Rumble who said congrats on 14 years and it was a Rumble rant.
	So thank you very much.
	I think I know part of the answer to this.
	A lot of eye movement and mechanism, neurochemistry to study.
	Happy anniversary, Eve.
	Thank you very much.
	Marion, yeah, feel the gaming thing because a lot of people think games are bad, but...
	Make you think they seem not totally bad?
	I mean, that's really interesting.
	Studying eye movements in general, looking around, it's been used for, so I don't know, but I'm sure it's been studied in gaming, for reaction times, and also for certain neurological and neurodegenerative diseases.
	I think for Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, you could...
	These are some early markers that you could start looking at, seeing how eye movements change.
	And also in children, I think in ADHD, there's a lot of different tasks that you can do looking at eye movements.
	So if you have different tasks where you have impulse, you have to control impulses, things like that, they can study eye movements and see, are you able to not look in a certain direction?
	So in terms of gaming, Yeah, being able to look at something and then also keep track of your peripheral vision.
	Gaming as a whole, looking at how the brain changes in gamers versus non-gamers is definitely being studied.
	There are changes and I got really nervous sitting beside a neuroscientist on the way back from a conference and she really convinced me that kids should not be playing any kinds of video games and since then I've come a long way.
	I think there's time for everything and definitely your brain is changing when you play video games and there are different types of video games.
	First action shooter games where you actually have to navigate and keep track of things is good for your spatial navigation in some sense.
	So the same as when you're driving through a city.
	They tell us we shouldn't rely on our GPS because you actually need to be using the part of your brain that's navigating so that you keep track of where things are in the city.
	And if we get really reliant on our GPS, then you just basically stop using that part of the brain.
	And that's something we don't want to do.
	The expression "use it or lose it" kind of holds true in many of these situations, especially with aging.
	So if we think about wanting to keep using our brain, don't use your GPS as much as you can.
	And just kind of navigate your spatial surrounding.
	I'm going to field a bunch of Super Chats now so I don't lose them.
	Kim Ruddy says, can Mrs. Fry speak on the landscape of women in STEM, specifically what we can do to get more girls interested in STEM?
	We're going to come back to this after I finish reading these because that's a good question.
	Did you learn anything about what your children are being taught CRT in the U.S.?
	And would you consider homeschooling Jeremy Stevenson?
	The situation in Canada seems to be much less...
	Exaggerated compared to what it is in the States.
	We know what our kids are being taught.
	They teach some, you know, proactive stuff and we have discussions at home.
	I don't think we've considered...
	Well, we'll get into the homeschooling later, but we've had that discussion.
	But the schooling system in Canada does not seem to be anywhere near the levels that it is in the U.S., although these issues are coming up.
	But it makes for good opportunities for discussion with the kids.
	Now, I saw two superstars.
	I can't miss these.
	Okay, here we go.
	Sorry.
	Marion, convince David all YouTubers need Teslas.
	Congratulations on your anniversary tomorrow.
	14 years is no joke.
	Viva always wanted to ask, do you still practice law and take cases or have you fully switched to YouTube politics?
	Now, thank you.
	No more cases.
	I have one case that I...
	We can't schedule a trial.
	It's a 2015 case.
	We can't get it to trial.
	That's the only file I have left.
	I don't want to take new files.
	I think I might be a liability in the courts given my public persona.
	And plus, there's no time.
	Now it's politics and YouTube.
	Okay, let's see.
	Marion, has David picked up any bad habits from my existence on his live streams and the horrible, horrible things I try to make him read?
	Also, how do you like Wild Wild Country?
	That's so funny because I forgot we watched that.
	At the beginning of the pandemic, we, at the beginning, we started to watch a few shows, and that was one that you recommended.
	And I can't really remember if I liked it or not.
	I think I, yes.
	I think it was...
	But then we saw Waco.
	It was like three or four.
	Yes, and then we watched Waco.
	Waco took over everything.
	And I'm going to read this.
	Ajo is another great Canadian YouTuber.
	Marion is the new Vivarian.
	So good to see both our virtual hi-fi from Toronto.
	Booyah.
	Hey, Joe.
	Hi.
	We met a Joe in person.
	I met him when he came to Montreal, and we met up fellow Canadians.
	Is Viva and Mrs. David, Dr. Viva, A-whatever, keep up the good work.
	Okay.
	Now, the STEM question.
	Actually, get to the STEM question, because that's one I know you've thought about, had discussions about.
	How do you feel that question?
	Yeah, so STEM is sciences and technology, engineering, math, and...
	Now there's an A, STEAM.
	A is arts?
	Don't ask me.
	But anyways, it's the sciences.
	I think kids are naturally interested in sciences.
	And there's different now, I think, the way they present coding and some biology, sciences.
	I've always really been interested in the health sciences as opposed to more pure and applied.
	Physics and math, things that I did early on, and they were okay, but I really was more interested in the biology and the human physiology aspect of it.
	In terms of what we're doing actively in universities and to help recruit people, seriously, there's so many young women who are in...
	Grad school.
	I think the problem is, once we get into the career aspect of STEM, it's hard.
	There aren't a lot of job opportunities within universities, so we have to be creative and go outside of university settings.
	And I see, I don't know, it's very inspiring to see so many women out there.
	It's just we need to keep creating jobs in those industries.
	Interesting.
	You did occasional events, even in the practice of law, at the lower levels, like the younger years is what I mean.
	There's equal representation of men and women.
	I know that it is the same in science because as you go in terms of number of years, not up the hierarchy, but just number of years in the industry, it then becomes more male than female in terms of presence.
	And then the question has always been, Is it because of systemic discrimination, or is it actually just reflective of what tend to be the life choices of women who want to be mothers and run the family in that sense, and not have to dedicate that much of their lives to that profession, which becomes prohibitively time-consuming?
	In the practice of law, it was 50-50 in the early years, and then it's not 50-50 by the time you get to partnership.
	And the question is, why?
	Or is it a decision that is made for one's own life?
	I mean, without getting you into trouble, what do you think about that?
	I think it's a very, very, very complicated issue and problem.
	And one that I...
	I don't know.
	There's no simple answer.
	Because I understand what people say.
	And I've seen myself.
	I've definitely prioritized more to my family than I...
	Thought it would ever take.
	I kind of had a career path that I thought was going to be a certain way.
	And for sure, there's different, there's so many different factors at play.
	And money is definitely one of them.
	I think that you need to get to a certain place to start making real money.
	And if you had that kind of money, you might be able to support your family better in ways that you...
	Wouldn't have to be there as much if you could hire someone to do everything for you at home.
	And that's what I see is that people, if they have kids later, they're able to keep balancing their career and their family a little bit better if they have a lot of resources.
	And so that really comes down to having resources.
	You do have to make some sacrifices.
	And I think, I wish there was an easy solution, but it's not.
	It's the interesting thing.
	If you have kids super early, they can be old enough so that one can pursue a career by the time you're in your late 20s, early 30s.
	If you have them super late, you can have them after you've already established your career in your 25 to 36. It does seem that that window of either pursuing a family or pursuing a career, they collide or they overlap where people do have to make decisions.
	I guess we were exquisitely fortunate in that whatever I ended up actually doing in life, It allows me to play more of an active role than if I were working 12 hours a day in a law firm.
	But for other people out there, it's a question.
	I've always said I don't know if it's gender-based, but at some point people do make their decisions and then maybe the outcome is reflective of actual individual choice and not any systemic problems.
	Because in research, it starts off with a majority or even over 50% female presence.
	Yeah, I think the stats now are there's actually more women, at least in some of the neuroscience programs I've seen.
	Yeah, I think it comes down to also, for me anyways, I can speak for myself, is that I do feel like maybe I've taken a little bit longer in a postdoc, doing a postdoc, and I think...
	There's a lot of time left and so I personally try not to get too stressed that things are taking maybe a little bit longer and career-wise and that all of a sudden the kids are going to be older and we're still going to have we're still going to be young young enough to keep doing um doing things and now sometimes I think about it the way that we've gone through um like having kids and we've both in some I wouldn't
	say breaks.
	We're working a lot.
	We're both working a lot.
	I think if anyone's spent...
	I think everybody's family is the same.
	It's just that you don't get the insight into...
	You don't get the peek into other people's private lives the way the world knows what we're doing on a daily basis.
	But everyone with kids, it's incessant.
	It's endless.
	You take kids, pick them up.
	I spent five hours today.
	Who's calling?
	Today was crazy.
	You did a lot of carpooling.
	It's crazy because we both are doing so much.
	We have kids in three different schools.
	They have different drop-off times, different pick-up times.
	It's just like, yeah, you're supposed to figure it out.
	I'm lucky I can work in the car, but I drive one...
	Today I did the drop off and pick up.
	I dropped the kid off.
	She forgot her lunch.
	I had to bring the lunch back.
	Take another kid, drop him off.
	I took Marion to work today.
	Go to pick another kid up.
	Pick the other third kid up.
	It was a long day, but...
	Our life feels like a sitcom a lot of the time.
	Especially with the endless minefield of dog urine and feces downstairs.
	When people say, is that dog poop on the ground or is that a knot in the wood?
	Yeah, and then the dog.
	You have a blind dog fighting with a paralyzed dog, and then she ends up, you know, leaking urine onto the floor.
	It's a sitcom.
	I think most people would probably appreciate that.
	Man, you're getting very blurry.
	I don't know if it's just me, but...
	Okay, we got Ken Kramer.
	Man, am I late to the party, but just have to say, Viva, congratulations.
	She is way out of your league.
	Make sure you cherish that one.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.
	Vaso says, secondhand smoke can jeopardize organ growth in children, equivalent to mask wearing.
	This is not scientific advice.
	Nobody's given scientific advice here.
	Just reading a super chat.
	Question is, is the neuro community raising awareness of the long-term effects of mask wearing?
	If so, what are they noticing?
	Priming microglia.
	So this person is talking the talk.
	There's some microglia.
	So, I mean, it's also a complicated question.
	I don't think there are kids wearing masks for that long.
	I don't know.
	We haven't studied it before.
	So, you know, these are all uncharted waters.
	This is the unknowns, as we say.
	There are the known risks, there are the unknown risks, and then there are the risks you don't even know may exist, but we may learn in the future.
	And I think that's something, as a scientist, I'm always thinking of all the different angles and sides, and I'm skeptical, and I think that's something we're...
	Trained to be.
	And so I'm very hesitant when I hear people saying things are so black and white because it's not black and white.
	I think part of the problem is that we don't have really great people in politics who are science communicators.
	And we need people coming out and explaining everything, not just the positives, but also talking about the negatives and explaining where there are more problems.
	And I think we could have...
	Really prevented some of this whole madness that's going on now.
	Well, I've got to say, when Dr. Tam came out, our Dr. Tam, the national doctor there, and she said, you know, wear a bag on your face during sexual intercourse.
	Marion was citing that as an authority for about two weeks.
	I wasn't complaining because I'm joking.
	But someone actually wrote here, if Viva loses the election, will you let him and Barnes have an OnlyFans?
	We all know where this is going.
	Well, let's talk about that now.
	When I had the shirt, Politics Ruins Everything, I am not incorrect in saying that I have always loathed politics on a public scale.
	Like, we have our family fights and debates, but I never liked it publicly.
	Would you explain what you saw as my transition from Politics Ruins Everything to Sweet Merciful Goodness, It's Our Only Hope, Insanity?
	Well, he keeps threatening to move.
	And I can tell you the only reason that we're able to do everything that we do is where we live.
	So for me, moving is not an option.
	And at least at this point in time, I really love where we live.
	I love our community.
	I love our schools and everything, my work, everything.
	So he was just getting angrier and angrier.
	And I think at some point, I don't know, you felt like you needed to...
	At least try and make a change and educate people, because what I find, and I probably would be similar, I hate to say it, but I'm not that involved in politics, really, before.
	And you're just kind of like, everything's okay in your life.
	You can tell you to wear a mask.
	You know, I don't know.
	I'm more of a person that just rolls with it.
	Whereas I now appreciate some of the major...
	Problems and I know people around me who really don't know much and just they're happy not knowing anything and they'll just vote the same way that they've always voted.
	And I think just coming out and educating people and saying where the issues are and just I'm biased but I think you're relatively neutral in a lot of the things that you explain.
	And just get people thinking about it and making their own decisions.
	And so I think that's where Viva PPC has come from and going up against Marc Garneau.
	So we joke that the chances are not high that you get voted in, but at least people will know.
	And I think there's a lot of people who now know more because you're running and you're spreading this message.
	So no one is worried.
	We're not planning on moving, but I am getting sufficiently angry at the general state, which seems to be getting worse and worse.
	Like I've said, it's not an unrealistic thought in my head, and it might become a necessity if we continue to go down this insanity in Canada.
	And I do remember, like I told Marion, if Bill C-10...
	That's the bill that would regulate online stuff the way the television and radio is regulated.
	If the government actually implements something that makes it impossible for me to do what I do for a living, that is a chasing away.
	They're pushing me out.
	It's not even that I'm deciding to leave.
	But with what we see coming out of Canada now, we're getting to a point where forcing kindergartners to wear masks in some schools, we're coming to the point where we're making decisions that We have to try to change the things that we don't like, and if we can't, then we decide.
	Let me see what we got.
	This should give you $14 after YouTube, $10 for your wife, $4 for you.
	Best wishes for $14 more.
	Thank you very much, Mahuya.
	Thank you.
	And then I saw another one here from...
	You think...
	Oh, because I thought that was an X and not a Z. Cause Diver.
	It's the old case of if you can't beat them, join them.
	Fight them from the inside.
	Happy end.
	Thank you very much.
	No, I said...
	When Marion says I got angry, it was not mean angry.
	It was genuinely frustrated.
	Tears frustrated.
	I don't like the idea of thinking that Marion and I have lived our best life in Canada.
	We used to do road trips every summer.
	We used to live free, but not reckless free.
	We used to just live what we took for granted was a freedom.
	And now I've got kids.
	I'll get very angry if I start talking.
	I might get angry to the point of tears if I talk about this now.
	Who we want to plan a rock concert next year.
	And we're facing the government propaganda that I put up online today that, you know, compelled vaccination if you want to be able to enjoy certain privileges.
	The extent we start living in a country that deems rights to be privileges, I'm not leaving this country.
	This country has left me.
	So hopefully we can run for the country, change the country before we have to change countries and run from the country.
	Marion is slowly coming around to how bad the political situation is.
	And with that said, have you noticed anything of a shift in the science community?
	Because I've lived through it with you and I know how it started and I know how it changed where even some members within the scientific community that you live in started noticing the censorship.
	Yeah, so I think it's difficult for scientists at the moment because I feel like you...
	At least on Twitter, I definitely see the divide.
	Some scientists, they feel like they need to support a certain narrative, and they did in the beginning.
	And it's just, it keeps pushed more and more and more in a certain direction.
	So it's difficult.
	I don't know.
	Well, it's...
	Specific censorship, because I know that you had some friends who...
	Or colleagues, I don't know who they were, but I don't want to get anyone in trouble, who started noticing that they couldn't even post certain innocuous...
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I would say in the health and...
	So, I follow a lot of people in the health and wellness community.
	And there is where they started seeing a lot of censorship.
	So, people saying, like, don't forget to get outside and get your vitamin D. And all of a sudden, they were censored for COVID restrictions.
	And like warnings, like this is giving COVID advice.
	And that's where there's a huge issue for me, is that there aren't people out saying like some of the common sense that has just kind of been lost.
	We still need to be maintaining our, you know, exercise and eating well and going outside and getting fresh air.
	These things are so important for...
	Building up or at least maintaining your immune system.
	And so these more natural doctors who are just prescribing healthy living were getting flagged.
	And I saw that a few times on Instagram and Twitter, Facebook.
	And now I'm going to bring this one up.
	This is Dee.
	You have a beautiful family and the community appreciates you giving us viva for a few hours a day.
	Thank you, Marion.
	Thank you very much, Dee.
	And I saw another one here.
	Thank you.
	Thank everyone on here.
	I mean, this is a great community.
	This is Marion's first live stream on the interwebs, I think.
	I mean, I think we did one maybe like two years ago.
	I think we did one at the very beginning of the pandemic when we started going crazy and we just like, we're sitting like, I don't know what else to do.
	Maybe we should just go on the internet.
	That's how it started.
	I remember I did one with my dad when we hadn't seen each other because of the law.
	I was just like, what do I do now?
	Talk to people.
	Even in hindsight, it enrages me that I have to say I didn't see my dad because the government wouldn't let us see each other.
	I mean, it's, you know, would love a DM sidebar to happen every season, quarterly or so.
	We can do this.
	I like it.
	All right, now, so, Mare.
	Yeah.
	I don't know where to go with this one.
	What do you...
	I guess I was thinking about some of the things that I would...
	So we talked a little bit...
	Oh, where's Mortimer?
	We were talking about...
	Yeah, so some of the people I'm following online, and that gets to something different, but some of the best, if people are interested in neuroscience research and neuroscience communication and learning more about the brain, one of the best YouTube channels out there that maybe people have heard of is the Huberman Lab.
	Andrew Huberman has been making YouTube videos for the last year.
	He's on Instagram, and he's a Stanford professor.
	Really great videos.
	It never talks about COVID, never talks about vaccines, and it's the best.
	It just talks about the brain.
	He talks about all kinds of different tools for managing stress.
	He really gets into the details and the mechanisms.
	And so I can talk a little bit about some of those things and some of the things that we do to kind of keep just general health and wellness as a priority and just kind of...
	How it relates to the brain.
	You talked earlier about some of your nightmares early on, about when you start dreaming.
	I won't talk about dreams, but sleep in general.
	I think that's something that I've really thought about in this last year, because as we were at home with our kids all day, there was this idea either we went to bed after we put our kids to bed, or we stayed up till Two or three or four in the morning trying to keep up with work and trying to keep up doing that.
	And so that's something I had to think about.
	And he was definitely a great resource for reminding me that, yeah, sleep is really important.
	And sleep is something that we should be prioritizing and setting our circadian rhythms and getting outside and getting natural light in our eyes.
	He goes through all the mechanism as to why it's important.
	And so I would recommend...
	After watching David's YouTube channel.
	The question everyone's dying to know is, do I snore when I sleep?
	You don't sleep well.
	So, I don't know.
	You don't snore, but you don't breathe a lot.
	A doctor told me I have sleep apnea, but because I decided I didn't trust that doctor, I have since disregarded the...
	The diagnosis of sleep apnea.
	And I can't sleep with those CPAP machines anyhow.
	So I figure I have to live with whatever problem I have.
	But no, to actually tell people.
	Highlight the importance of sleep.
	Because everyone asks, why do you need to sleep?
	What do dreams even do as a function for the humans?
	Do we know why humans dream?
	We're starting to get better ideas.
	It's still a mystery.
	Someone said, Matt Walker, why we sleep.
	Great.
	Great, great book.
	And he was on the Hugh Roman podcast as a guest and also has his own podcast he just started.
	So why do we sleep?
	So we used to kind of think that we just slept and it was metabolically we were saving energy, but we actually use just as much energy when we're sleeping.
	And so some things that we study in the lab is how the brain and our brain.
	So our brain is made up of these nerve cells and they have these long branches and connections and they connect to each other.
	And when we sleep, there's a lot going on.
	We have these glial cells that come in.
	They move around.
	But we're really just starting to uncover some of these mechanisms.
	So we think that a lot of learning depends on sleep.
	So you'll learn something during the day.
	And some of the connections will solidify or strengthen during the night if you get enough sleep.
	Cure fishbowl on the head.
	Fish tank cleaner.
	Well, we remember that lawsuit.
	Not the lawsuit.
	The woman who took the cleanser, allegedly.
	Killed her husband.
	Didn't kill herself.
	Didn't get charged with murder.
	Okay, so for anyone out there who wants to...
	Robert Barnes always has the books to read.
	You got the Huberman podcast, which you think everyone should be listening to.
	It's like getting a Stanford neuroscience degree.
	He's just giving...
	You have to be patient because they're...
	I think he has over 20 episodes and they're two hours long.
	You have to sit there.
	It's like a lot of information, but it's really...
	Top notch.
	And Bison says DMT, baby, which is dimethyltryptamine, if I'm not mistaken.
	And the only reason I know that is because I watched that movie, Gaspar Noé, Enter the Void.
	And I think it was Joe Rogan or someone who said, in as much as someone can create a movie showing what a DMT experience is like, that movie was the one.
	But that movie, like Gaspar Noé's other movie, I think it was Irreversible, is, speaking of traumatizing, traumatizing.
	I don't like drug movies.
	I don't like drugs.
	Drugs and violence.
	Let's see.
	We got...
	I missed it.
	Cal L says, I live alone and I've noticed since working from home full-time now, I have been finding it increasingly more difficult to get sleep at night and stay asleep through the night.
	And Marion, before you field this one, I'm going to say, there was a joke.
	Someone said, during this pandemic, it's not that I work from home, it's that I sleep at work.
	And Marion...
	Field that, because I know there's truth in that particular joke.
	Yeah, I think the most important thing is to get outside more.
	A lot of people, when they're working from home, at least I found, is you get up and then you have breakfast and then you just go to work, which means like sitting back.
	For setting your circadian rhythms, it's really important to get outside and see natural light.
	You have cells in your eyes and the retina that actually detect The luminance and how bright it is and where the sun is in regards to the horizon.
	So it's basically telling your brain.
	And these cells connect to the part of your brain that tells you what time it is and it sets your circadian clock.
	So it's like it's morning time.
	And so the natural cycle throughout the day and then comes to evening, then your body will be more aware that it's time to go to bed and getting outside and getting enough exercise is probably.
	Something that, when you're working from home, can get neglected.
	Do you unplug your rotor at night?
	Now, this is the funny thing, by the way.
	This is when I think my Marian, my wife, took the official red pill.
	After the stream, it was in leading up to the stream with Alex Jones and following it, where even, Marian, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
	You listened to some of that stream, and we did learn some things from that stream.
	I don't want to ask you the leading question.
	What did you think of some of the stuff that Alex Jones said?
	The frogs?
	We looked into the gay frogs beforehand.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good example.
	Part of that is really interesting because I actually work on frogs.
	I understand when he's...
	Getting at it, his presentation is really lacking.
	Making frogs gay doesn't make any sense.
	But some of the things we studied in the lab...
	Hold on, Matt.
	Stop for one second.
	You're freezing.
	We might have to get the kids to turn off the internet.
	Let me just shout out.
	I think it might be...
	Is it better?
	Because it might be this connection in here.
	It's a little better, but at least we can hear you now.
	Sorry.
	So go on and say, yeah, go on and explain, you know, something about, might make a little more sense.
	Yeah.
	So frogs start off as tadpoles and within the first few, it's true.
	Yes, exactly.
	They're turning the frogs gay.
	No, it's not.
	But what we study is that frogs, they start from eggs and then within a week they're...
	They're a seeing, swimming tadpole, which is something very cool for studying development because within a week you can change their environment.
	And so I guess that's what they've done in some of these research studies is they've added things to their rearing solution, like they've changed the water and really increased the drugs and the content in the water and found that if they followed them long enough, that there was changes in their...
	They're in their metamorphosis.
	So there were more frogs at the end that were male as opposed to female.
	And so usually, I guess, you would expect that 50% of them turned female and 50% turned male.
	And so there was a slight higher proportion that turned into male.
	They weren't gay frogs.
	Hey, Boomer, you're still on mute.
	So in other words, some science to actually lend credence to the hyperbolic description for what it is, but I don't want you to say truth, but there was some, I think we both learned that there was some actual meaningful science behind some of it.
	The other thing that we learned subsequent or before, during, and after that stream was the interference that cell phones had on sleep patterns, which...
	You know, somebody describes an hyperbole afraid, but do you remember that?
	Because then ever since then, I have not been sleeping with the phone.
	Our house is pretty small, so it's always close enough.
	But, you know, downstairs instead of on the same floor, if I can help it.
	Yeah, I remember we looked into it and there was, and now I can't remember.
	I have to go back and look at the study, but there, yeah, depending on the frequency, there were some changes in this pattern.
	Go for it.
	As I say, the cool thing about sleep is that you go through these rhythms of sleep.
	And so it's not just duration, it's sleep architecture and that your sleep goes into different phases of sleep.
	And so things like alcohol, caffeine can really affect.
	Which type of sleep you go into.
	And you really want to go through all the cycles.
	But if you're...
	They've shown that alcohol, if you drink too close to going to bed, you can fall asleep quickly.
	But your actual sleep architecture, the different phases that you go into can be shifted.
	And that's something you didn't even notice.
	Well, that I...
	Look, about my sleep habits, I know the doctors...
	Gave me a bunch of dietary recommendations that I do not follow and I binge eat like an absolute animal before going to bed.
	And I drink a lot of water before going to bed because I'm...
	So, yeah, whatever.
	We won't get into that now.
	Richard Sprout, $100.
	Thank you very much.
	I hope you didn't mean to put in a chat, a comment.
	If you did, I'm going to look for it so I can bring it up so that we can answer it.
	Marion, what is it like having four kids in the house?
	When, if ever, do you expect David to grow up?
	Is he a kid at heart?
	He is a kid at heart.
	I love the zipline stream, which among others proved my point, cooking streams.
	What was the zipline stream?
	Oh, the zipline.
	Oh, yeah, going on the zipline.
	It's absolutely easy.
	He's a kid at heart, which, I mean, is good.
	I think we all should be kids at heart.
	It helps that we don't get into serious parent adult mode.
	I think having a fourth kid is good.
	It keeps me young.
	And Bambuga, the real Bambuga, says, when I was in Afghanistan, we had to drink a lot of water that had a plastic taste to it.
	It was all we had.
	And somebody told me it could cause something similar to the frog thing.
	Is that true?
	No medical advice, Bambuga.
	And also, Bambuga is the...
	He must have been the class clown making jokes all the time because some of his stuff is unable to be repeated, but hilarious.
	Let's see what we got here.
	And by the way, one of the kids just found us.
	I think it's when I screamed to stop using the internet.
	Then they went to find us.
	If you had told people two years ago that the government would mandate...
	Well, I don't want to get into trouble here.
	Everyone can read it.
	I will just only say that if anyone had said two years ago we would be here, I would have said under no circumstances in any Canada.
	If anyone had said...
	What's going on in Australia is straight out of horror movies.
	I could never have believed it.
	And then the question is, once it starts happening slowly, slowly, slowly, and you start seeing people...
	Tolerating it, justifying it, and acting on it, I mean, then it's time to do something.
	Can't sit around and say nothing.
	Let's see what we got here.
	Marion, is there anything else while I look for some questions that I may have missed that you want to add?
	I'm just reading some of the questions, too.
	BPA and water bottles baking in the sun might have been bad.
	That's another...
	Yeah.
	You know anything about that, Mary?
	No, but all I know from my perspective is...
	Your environment, your experiences, everything interacts and can change.
	Anything.
	So, yeah, our environment, if you're drinking only from plastic water bottles for your whole life, I don't know.
	There could be some BPA.
	I took the lesson from Dr. Strangelove.
	I only drink clear vodka.
	I don't drink.
	I drink gin, but that's a joke.
	Undistilled alcohols.
	J Mills says, congrats on 14 years since it gets harder to find the smaller meaningful gifts.
	I posted a saying to locals that every fisherman needs on their desk or wall.
	If Marion ever needs an easy win.
	I'm going to go look for that.
	J. Mill with the most beautiful...
	I need an easy win.
	I have no ideas for tomorrow, actually.
	Me neither.
	I didn't do anything.
	I don't even think we have a babysitter for tomorrow.
	We'll get sushi from Park Sushi, which is just...
	I got goosebumps.
	I just got goosebumps thinking about eating Park Sushi.
	Best sushi place in the world, as far as I'm concerned, but certainly Montreal.
	Okay, now with that said, Mary, does one of us want to go tag team downstairs and I'll finish up and maybe take some questions?
	Yeah, I just saw a question.
	Is cilantro evil?
	Cilantro is one of my favorites.
	So I know there are some people who think cilantro tastes like soap and some people who like cilantro.
	I like cilantro.
	Dave, I think you now like cilantro, right?
	Oh, a cilantro is...
	I'll eat a salad of cilantro.
	I'll eat a salad with that.
	The only thing I think is actual...
	Evil for your body are onions, garlic, radishes, and things that make me burp.
	Maybe for your body, not for everyone's body.
	And that's the other thing.
	Everyone's different.
	Everyone should...
	I think I can leave it at this.
	Everyone should be curious about their own physiology, their own brain health, their own body, and how to live a long and healthy life.
	Oh, yeah.
	So now, actually, let's just say this.
	We don't give advice.
	We did one video, I think it was our 11th anniversary, when we went to see Casey Neistat, and it had a little bit of advice for a healthy marriage.
	Do you want to, if you had one, I think I know, this is how long we've been married for, I think I know what it's going to be.
	Do you have one recommendation, one insight, one sentiment to share with anybody out there who's thinking of getting married, who may be married, or who just wants to know a key, potentially?
	To a happy marriage.
	Well, I think in our case, things are different because we have been, we've known each other for almost forever, right?
	Like, if we think about our brains and how they develop, I met you when my brain was still developed.
	So you're, like, hardened into my brain.
	And so for us, I think it's easier because we have, like, a lot of experience.
	And so, like, in this last year, they were definitely trying.
	Difficult times.
	But when we think of it as a big picture, you know, we can navigate it.
	So I guess always thinking about things in a big perspective and not getting too caught up on details.
	I think they say don't sweat the small stuff, which I guess is it.
	It's like always keep thinking about the big picture and where you want to be if you're a family or...
	If you have kids or not, even just as a relationship.
	And also being flexible because things change all the time.
	And I think we set up, we set ourselves up with these expectations.
	Like when we got married, it was, we were getting married.
	David was going to law school.
	He was going to be a lawyer and I was going to be a scientist.
	And that was just going to, that's kind of how we envisioned it.
	But when I saw that he wasn't happy as a...
	Lawyer in the traditional sense, and we had to just keep moving forward and navigate that.
	I don't want anyone thinking we keep secrets from each other, but I never highlighted...
	It was a precarious decision that we both made, because Marion's postdoc research doesn't make a third of what she's worth at the lowest of the estimates.
	The one anecdote is when we were making the decisions and we never fought about money and we never fought about sex, which are the two things that most people fight about in marriages.
	Really?
	Money and sex are the two things that lead to the biggest strife.
	Money and sex?
	Money or sex.
	Especially when you don't have one and you're having too much of the other with someone else.
	In a marriage, yes.
	But it was a precarious...
	At one point in time, financially, I don't think either of us fully appreciated it at the time.
	I think you tell the funny story when you...
	Oh, the bag on the phone?
	Yeah, what was that story?
	Okay, give me one second.
	When the ship of the state is falling apart, family is your life preserver.
	I agree with you, Mike Riendo, beautifully put.
	And don't prepare yourself to other families because you can catch yourself doing that and every family is so unique.
	And ours is something I really realized is everyone's just navigating their own family and you're doing the best you can with what you know.
	It's not the FOMO, but it's the social media aspect of everyone else's life.
	Everybody's life looks easier than one's own when one looks at it from abroad because you don't see the strife, you don't see the struggle, you don't see the hardships.
	Everybody's life...
	Everybody.
	And everybody's family has hardships.
	And so there really is...
	I'm not even saying even.
	What's the princess daughter's name?
	Meghan Markle and the guy?
	What's his name?
	Even if things look good, you could be the queen of England, literally.
	You can have serious misery.
	There's just different levels of it.
	What was I just...
	I was going to bring up something, but I can't answer this.
	I know nothing of this.
	And even if we did, I think it's the type of question we couldn't answer.
	Was wondering what the Canadians think about the Queen.
	Oh, right on it.
	Am a monarchist in the UK.
	Wish we could strike...
	Okay.
	What do I think of the Queen?
	Look, I think nothing of the Queen now.
	She's not on the radar.
	What I think is ridiculous are these democratically elected...
	Petty tyrants who have been ruling through edict and not democracy for the last year and a half.
	And, hey, too many people seem cool with it, which is a problem.
	But, all right, what do we say, Marek?
	Anything else?
	Shall I meet you upstairs in a few minutes for dinner?
	We've got to start getting the kids ready for bed.
	So, okay, Marion.
	Yeah, it was fun.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	I'm going to put you on the spot right now.
	We always ask Barnes for a word of motivation for the future.
	Give us something that's going to help us understand ourselves better.
	Well, you know what I really love about all your YouTube videos is how you end and you say, take care of yourself and take care of those around you.
	And I think that's the most important thing everyone can do right now is take care of yourself and then look out for people around you who might not be doing Well, we might need help and try and be of service to others because I think that's the most important thing we can do right now and stay positive and we're going to keep going forward.
	All right.
	Forward Together is Justin Trudeau's campaign slogan.
	Sign me up, Trudeau.
	I've sullied Marion's closing thought with that.
	Okay, Mara, I'll meet you upstairs in a few minutes.
	I'll take a few more questions and then close out in 10 minutes or so.
	Okay, nice.
	It was very nice talking to you.
	I shall see you later in the evening.
	Okay.
	Bye.
	I'll see you in two minutes.
	All right, people.
	So that was it.
	That was the Viva and Mare.
	Viva and Wife.
	We've done the Viva Dad.
	We've done the Viva Wife.
	I've been meaning to do one with my aunt in California.
	And I wanted to do it early on in the lockdown because she had a wonderful business out there.
	And things, you know, things went to where they are now.
	Let's see.
	I'm going to try to take out as many non-Super Chat chats as I've seen.
	If you've not been on a cruise yet...
	Okay, sorry.
	That wasn't the one I wanted to bring up.
	I'm glad it's not a terrible, mean chat, but thank you.
	Nice seeing you, Mrs. Fry.
	You two are beautiful inside out.
	Thank you for sharing a light and insight with us.
	Oh, that's what I was going to say.
	Marion, not Marion.
	Some people don't like me comparing a marriage to a business relationship, but all that I've noticed is that marriages go sour.
	The same reason business relationships, partnerships go sour.
	It's when people don't appreciate and respect and recognize and acknowledge the contributions of the others.
	And when they start thinking that they're putting in more than the other and they start counting what they do, comparing it to the other, and it becomes petty fights that lead to big fights and always giving the benefit of the doubt.
	We'll avoid litigation nine out of 10 times.
	So that is my build back better.
	Now it's forward together or something.
	Something nonsensical.
	Because you're going to hear every single thing that he puts out on Twitter ends with moving forward together.
	Someone who can find this faster than me can have a look.
	So that's it, everyone.
	That is the Viva wife.
	My wife.
	And it's 14 years tomorrow.
	Apparently the stone, the element, the substance of the 14 years is ivory.
	But I am obviously not going to buy ivory for obvious reasons, even if it weren't outlawed.
	Might have to deal with a bone from something we've eaten that I'm going to carve into something nice.
	So let's see what we've got.
	If there's any questions, stick them in the chat now and I'm going to see if I can get them.
	Ajo is back in the house.
	Where did it go?
	Come on.
	Bring it up here.
	Great live stream.
	Super awesome to see you.
	Thank you.
	The same to everyone.
	Ajo has totally apolitical content unless he too has gone off the deep end.
	Check him out.
	Great, great editing.
	Great stuff.
	It was for a Viva Pizza night.
	It was for Aviva Pizza Night.
	Okay, thank you very much, Richard.
	And now I remember because that was the chat that had no chat.
	Build forward together.
	Something along those lines.
	Okay, let's see here.
	Let's see here.
	Only cheat in Vegas?
	No, no, no, no.
	Do you know how many problems in life would be solved if people kept their schmeckles in their pants?
	It's like, the idea, this is why I think I'm going to be relatively harder to corrupt, if not totally uncorruptible.
	Honeypotting is never going to work with me.
	If people would just turn off that part of their brains for anyone other than their spouse, people would save a lot of problems.
	Okay, I'll leave it there.
	Viva, just buy her a live elephant.
	Well, it worked in The Simpsons with Stampy, so...
	Back forward.
	I don't even know if that's right.
	A wishbone.
	Okay.
	Let me see.
	What else?
	Was there a couple of...
	I'll just give a couple of updates, I guess.
	For anybody who doesn't know, what was the update?
	Oh, yes.
	Our EDA, the Electoral District Association, that is Westbound Notre Dame de Grasse, has been accredited, approved by Elections Canada.
	So hithertofore, we are able to give tax receipts to anybody who donates to the campaign.
	We are going to have a public discussion confirmed to be held by the Rotary Club.
	And Mark Garneau is going to be present along with the other candidates for the Westmount EDDA.
	So September 13th, it's going to be something to look forward to.
	Keep your schmeckle in your pants, kiddo.
	Save your marriage.
	That is the best marriage advice.
	Although I don't know what the female equivalent of schmeckle would be and how you keep that in your pants.
	But you know what we're getting at.
	Okay.
	Let's see what we got here.
	Back forwards.
	I'm going to try to get to some chats while we're here before we go.
	Okay, they all seem to be jokes about either Biden or Trudeau.
	So with that said, thank you all for tuning in.
	It was great.
	What do we have to look forward to this week?
	Livestream Sunday.
	I'm going to be dropping a vlog.
	Dropping a vlog sounds terrible.
	I will be publishing a vlog shortly after this stream about that mother in Chicago that was actually denied visitation custody of the child, her child, by a judge who, sua sponte, asked her if she was vaccinated.
	When she said no, decided it's time to tell her she doesn't get her time with her kid.
	So that's coming out.
	It's a good one because there were some twists and turns to that story resulting in the judge recusing himself.
	Ridiculous.
	And what else?
	Don't lose faith, people.
	There is the old expression, tough times build hard.
	Uh, humans.
	Tough times build hard people.
	Hard people build good times.
	Good times build soft people.
	Soft people.
	I screwed up that thing so badly.
	Bottom line.
	Hard times create hard people.
	Hard people create good times.
	Good times create soft people.
	Soft people create hard times.
	And we are definitely going through hard times now.
	But it is not, uh...
	They're not doomed and it's not fateless.
	Raymond Schama said the people are winning and the governments already know it.
	We're going to see it.
	It's going to be a revolution and it's going to be a political revolution and it's going to be one where people are going to assert their rights and not be satisfied with privileges.
	Okay.
	I see Marion in the chat.
	Marion, do you want to come back in for anything or am I just looking at you read the comments in the backstream?
	Forget it.
	I'm bringing you back in.
	You're back in.
	I was listening.
	Alright, well that was it.
	Yeah, I'm still just avoiding going downstairs and seeing kids.
	And that is only because they're so happily watching Lauren.
	They're probably watching Colin Keys.
	I haven't heard anything, so I feel like everything must be fine.
	But they have school tomorrow.
	We've got to get them to bed.
	And any parent knows more dangerous than noise is silence when it comes to kids.
	I have to tell everyone.
	I also have a podcast.
	I didn't even tell anyone that I'm the co-host.
	You're supposed to ask at the end, where can people find you?
	Where can people find you, Marion?
	So, I was just kidding.
	But actually, last year, since I wasn't able to be in the lab as much as I normally would, I started working with someone, Cindy Huffington, and she has a website called Curious Neuron.
	I've been working on her podcast with her.
	So we do, we interview scientists and psychologists and researchers and sometimes we just talk and it's called the Curious Neuron Podcast.
	And we talk about parenting and brain development and things you can, great advice from psychologists and a lot of, we try and answer just questions that parents would have about parenting.
	It's called Curious Neuron Podcast.
	And wherever you find podcasts.
	I'll post a link in the pinned comment.
	And who's that very handsome individual that you did the podcast with?
	The guy from that show that the kids watch?
	Oh, it's not out yet.
	Justin Baldoni is going to be our...
	He was someone we interviewed this summer and it's coming out, I think, next week.
	We have two seasons.
	I just joined in the last couple episodes, so the last six or seven episodes, but I'm helping if anyone's interested and they have questions about parenting or getting advice from psychologists.
	We're basically trying to get a lot of experts together and have it as a resource for parents who want to learn more about whatever they want to know about parenting because parents have a lot of questions.
	Well, Justin Baldoni, the podcast is coming out and Justin Baldoni, he is from Jane the Virgin.
	And he wrote a book called Man Enough.
	So that's what we were talking about.
	Which we listened to on Audible.
	And Justin Baldoni may one day know.
	He may one day discover that I have abs which compete with his.
	I just don't show them.
	One day.
	One day.
	Now we're checking out.
	Marion, I'll meet you upstairs.
	And we will call it an evening.
	Everyone, thank you very much for tuning in.
	We'll do it again.
	100% we'll do it again.
	Next time we'll talk even more science.
	I feel like we didn't even get into some of the...
	There's so much science we can talk about.
	Yeah, and I didn't get far enough into your childhood for the crowd.
	So next time we'll dive deeper.
	All right.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, everyone.
	Enjoy the evening.
	See you Sunday.
	Peace.

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