Controversial - but fascinating - hypnotic regression is claimed to unlock many secrets here, in the afterlife and in past lives. Author and acclaimed hypnotherapist Sarah Breskman Cosme , in Florida, has been probing subconscious secrets of past lives and the lessons they impart...
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| Guest on this edition, very different subject. | |
| We're going to talk about hypnosis, hypnotic regression, and how potentially the seeds of the stuff that you're going through now might be buried, might be encoded somehow within you. | |
| That's one of many topics that I'm going to be talking about with Sarah Breskman-Cosme. | |
| She's described as the best-selling author of A Hypnotist's Journey to Atlantis and the author of A Hypnotist's Journey to the Secrets of the Sphinx. | |
| She is a master hypnotist, a level three practitioner of Dolores Cannon's QHHT method and a student of the very famous Dr. Brian Weiss. | |
| With a passion to reveal hidden or undiscovered knowledge vital to the enlightenment of humanity, that's a big task, Sarah featured on Gaia TV and continues to speak about her work worldwide, which she's about to do here. | |
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| I've always been fascinated by hypnotherapy and the realm that lies within and how you unlock that. | |
| Because I believe that there are states and times in our lives when we are closer to what is hidden within us than others. | |
| And maybe there are techniques like hypnosis. | |
| I know hypnotherapy, hypnosis, hypnotic regression are controversial. | |
| But maybe there are techniques, whatever they might be, that might help you to access and unlock those things. | |
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| All right, let's get to the United States now. | |
| Sarah Breskman-Cosme and hypnotic regression, the general subject of hypnosis, and a lot of other stuff I think we're about to speak with. | |
| Sarah, thank you for coming on my show. | |
| Thank you so much for having me. | |
| How's the Florida Keys? | |
| It's absolutely beautiful. | |
| 82 degrees and sunny right now. | |
| Although who knows what will happen next weekend. | |
| Well, yeah, as we record this, I think you have a hurricane approaching, but sometimes these things pass benignly and sometimes they make their presence felt. | |
| I wish you luck along with all the residents of Florida, especially the Keys, which of course being so low-lying is right in the path of anything that comes, isn't it? | |
| It really is. | |
| I really appreciate it. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Okay, I need to talk about you, but first of all, I have to say just something that I would say if we were on air, if we were on radio in the UK, or indeed television, you know, I would just have to say some of the stuff that we might get into is kind of medical, which I don't normally do here. | |
| We have lots of regulations in the UK where you can't really talk about a lot of this stuff on broadcast radio. | |
| But just to say that if you, that's my listener, feel that you have a medical issue, of course, and I know you'd agree, Sarah, the first place to go is your general practitioner, your medical doctor, before consulting a hypnotherapist or anything else. | |
| And that's just something that, you know, the regulations kind of say, and I think is common sense anyway. | |
| I hope that's okay. | |
| Oh, definitely. | |
| Okay. | |
| Now, we're going to be talking about hypnosis and hypnotherapy and hypnotic regression. | |
| You know, and I know that those things are very controversial. | |
| There are some people who absolutely think it is a matter. | |
| I mean, I've been astonished at some of the things that hypnotic regression I've seen dig out. | |
| I had a friend, a broadcaster called Neil Fox in the UK, big disc jockey on, a radio station that I used to work on, and he was regressed and became some character from the past and told a very credible story. | |
| So, you know, I'm aware of the power of this. | |
| And another one of my friends is Paul McKenna, who's very well known around the world, of course, for hypnotism and his various books and self-help guides and stuff like that. | |
| Paul McKenna was also a disc jockey on Capitol Radio for a while, but the other side of his working life kind of took over, and he's well known for that. | |
| So I'm aware of the power of this. | |
| Talk to me and to people who are not really aware of a definition of it. | |
| What is a hypnotic state? | |
| What are you delving into? | |
| Really, all it is is focus, concentration. | |
| Everybody experiences this state when they wake up in the morning or when they're just falling asleep. | |
| When you wake up in the morning and you can still remember your dreams, you feel as if you're sort of awake, but you still have access to your dream. | |
| And then you wake up all the way and you realize: wait a minute, I can't remember my dream at all. | |
| That's because when you still could, you were in the deep theta state. | |
| That's the same state that people go into when they're in these hypnotic sessions. | |
| And when they're in these hypnotic sessions, they have access to so much information. | |
| But then when they regain, you know, and their consciousness comes back fully, they forget these things. | |
| So it's so powerful what you can tap into. | |
| And when my clients tap into this state, they're actually tapping into universal consciousness, which is so fascinating and how I found out all this information. | |
| So that's kind of the internet before the internet. | |
| Definitely. | |
| Now, look, I have a personal reason for asking about this because these things that you've described sometimes happen to me. | |
| And in fact, last night was one of those occasions. | |
| They don't happen all the time. | |
| But I was particularly tired and, you know, it's been kind of stressful lately. | |
| And I was in that kind of hovering phase between half asleep and half awake. | |
| You know, that kind of I am about to go to sleep or I might just wake up and have to listen to some American radio for a couple of hours and then go to sleep. | |
| You know, that kind of state. | |
| And I closed my eyes and this has happened to me ever since I was a boy. | |
| I was able to see, and I mean see, I don't mean create, I mean see a scene of a street. | |
| Last night it was a street and it almost looked like, you know, one of the, I don't know, like the opening of one of those old homely American comedies like the Dick Van Dyke show, something like that. | |
| You know, it looked like a downhome street with, there was, it was a street and there was a grassy bank either side of this street and picket fences. | |
| And almost like a camera, the camera panned round. | |
| And I think there was somebody crossing the road, crossing the street that I saw. | |
| And as soon as I started to think about it, then, you know, it went away. | |
| But so many times in my lifetime, I have closed my eyes and I have seen almost like a movie, almost like a movie unfold before my eyes. | |
| And there are things that I haven't seen before. | |
| I haven't been reading about that day, don't know anything about. | |
| And I've always been curious as to what that is. | |
| Is this what we're talking about? | |
| It is exactly what we're talking about. | |
| And this is exactly what people experience when they're deep under hypnosis. | |
| And it's so fascinating because it's very quite possible that you're being shown little scenes from different lifetimes. | |
| Well, this had a kind of 50s look to it. | |
| And I've bored my listener before, but as a three-year-old boy, I used to tell the neighbors, maybe I've been watching too many shows, but three and four years of age, I used to say, I'm an American. | |
| And I had memories of California as a little kid. | |
| And then when I went there in later years, I actually felt I'm home. | |
| Now, I know that's weird, and that's probably just watching too many TV shows, but who knows? | |
| Who knows? | |
| I don't think it's weird at all. | |
| And do you remember what the person looked like on the street? | |
| If I'd had to discuss, I think it was a lady with a long dark coat on, she looked like. | |
| And I think she may, she wasn't, you wouldn't call her elderly, but she wasn't in the first flush of youth. | |
| Let's put it that way. | |
| But could I pick her out in an identification line at a police station? | |
| No. | |
| Did I get an impression of what I was looking at? | |
| Yes. | |
| It's so great that you're bringing this up because this is what people experience. | |
| But then when you have a guide who can walk you through this different scenes, then you can stay with the scenes and you can go deeper into the information. | |
| But, and there is a but here, a number of people over my lifetime have tried in conditions of tranquility and safety to hypnotize me, and I am not susceptible. | |
| So how come I can get into that state that I've been in so many times that I was in last night? | |
| But if a hypnotist or a hypnotherapist tries to put me under the fluence or whatever it might be, I just don't allow myself to go there. | |
| Well, you know, a lot of it has to do with trusting the practitioner. | |
| And also, there's a misconception that when a hypnotist is working with a person, that the person will be unconscious or not have any control. | |
| But it's actually the opposite. | |
| The client has full control because it does feel like that state when you're visualizing, when you're seeing these things. | |
| And also, some people don't really realize that you don't have to see to experience one of these types of sessions. | |
| You can feel the information. | |
| You can use all of your senses. | |
| Everybody has different senses that are more highly developed than others. | |
| Well, I'm sure we'll get into more detail about that. | |
| And we've kind of leapt ahead of ourselves, but I just wanted to introduce the fact that something that I've always thought was akin to a hypnotic state is no stranger to me. | |
| I'm quite used to having those things. | |
| And sometimes they can be quite revelatory. | |
| But enough about me in this. | |
| This recording is about you. | |
| So tell me your, I have to say that I do do my preparation and I have heard you tell this elsewhere, which is why I'm asking you to do this. | |
| Tell me your story. | |
| How did you get into all of this? | |
| Completely by accident, honestly. | |
| I was just one of those people that everybody felt sorry for. | |
| I had so many problems as a child. | |
| I mean, I was overweight. | |
| I had phobias and fears. | |
| I had problems sleeping. | |
| I mean, I had so many problems that my parents just didn't know what to do with me. | |
| So they finally put me into therapy. | |
| And in therapy, you know, I felt it was nice to talk to somebody about these problems, but I could manifest more problems from talking about my problems. | |
| It was just a big mess. | |
| And then sometimes, if other people had problems and I thought about their problems, I could even get their problems as well. | |
| It was just, oh, so nothing seemed to change, but it was comforting to have someone to talk to about all of this. | |
| And because I was in therapy for so long, I thought, well, I'll become a therapist because that was all I knew. | |
| And I didn't know of any other healing modalities. | |
| So I went to college with the intention of becoming a psychologist. | |
| I wanted to be excellent at what I did. | |
| And I wanted to be really knowledgeable about everything. | |
| And I just wanted to help people. | |
| But this really fascinating thing happened to me about two months after I went to college. | |
| I came home to visit my family for the first time. | |
| And there's this mirror that you see when you walk through the doorway. | |
| And when I looked at myself in the mirror, my jaw just dropped because while I had been away for just these two months, I had lost a ton of weight. | |
| And I stared at myself in the mirror because I looked so different. | |
| And I couldn't really see myself very clearly in the dorm room mirrors. | |
| It was small. | |
| And I had also realized when I stared at myself in my parents' mirror that I had forgotten to have all of my problems. | |
| So here I thought, wow, I went to therapy for literally 10 years to try to fix myself. | |
| And I go away for two months and I feel completely healed. | |
| And then I couldn't figure out what was it? | |
| What did I do? | |
| Because I want to share this information with everyone. | |
| And what I realized, it was like this aha moment was that I changed my environment. | |
| And because of that, I changed the patterns of my thoughts. | |
| And that changed my whole life. | |
| And I've never had OCD anymore or these other, you know, fears and phobias because I came to understand that it was the patterns of my thinking that created these issues. | |
| So I started to change the patterns of my thoughts. | |
| And I didn't have anybody to really talk to about this because when I tried to bring it up to my parents, they were like, okay, that's nice. | |
| You better finish your degree. | |
| You know, we're paying a lot of money. | |
| So I finished. | |
| I graduated from Northeastern University and I was so excited to change the world. | |
| I thought I was going to help everybody heal. | |
| I've always had this feeling that I just wanted to help other people ever since I was little. | |
| It was just, it's ingrained in me. | |
| And I thought everybody's going to feel better when I, you know, when I counsel them. | |
| And to say it was gung-ho is like an understatement. | |
| I was so excited to get out into the field. | |
| So I had an internship before going to graduate school where I was going to complete my studies. | |
| And at this internship, my job was to counsel the patients and to give them their medication. | |
| I had already understood everything that there was to understand about medication. | |
| And in fact, I had the highest grade in my psychopharmacology class. | |
| I was so excited. | |
| So I was teetering between becoming a psychologist or a psychiatrist. | |
| And so this internship was going to help me make my decision. | |
| So hold on. | |
| You were good at psychopharmacology. | |
| That's handing out pills to people, isn't it? | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, I understood all the different medications and I believed what I was taught in college. | |
| And I was so excited. | |
| My job was to counsel these people and to give them their medication because I understood the different medications and then I would watch them and I would document their progress. | |
| So as soon as I got into the field, I felt within the first week, and this is just my own experience, everybody has different experiences, that everything that I had learned was a lie. | |
| I wanted to help people. | |
| And as soon as I would get to my shift, say if I started at 7 a.m. and I would, you know, distribute the medications to these people, they'd be drooling on the couch within 45 minutes. | |
| And these were people that were talking to extraterrestrials or they believed they were. | |
| They believed, oh, yeah, sorry. | |
| They believed they were. | |
| And they also believed they were talking with angels. | |
| And some of the things that they would bring up were quite fascinating because they would say, oh, Sarah, I see, you know, this angel and talking about you. | |
| And they would know personal things about me that I never told them. | |
| So how can you tell the difference between, I mean, look, the picture that you paint doesn't sound nice. | |
| I mean, it sounds to me like one flew over the cuckoo's nest. | |
| You know, those sorts of institutions where they drug people up for, I mean, I know that therapeutically you have to give people medication for certain conditions, but, you know, that doesn't sound like an environment where people are being necessarily listened to. | |
| But how do you tell the difference then, as you then, between somebody with a psychosis and somebody who might be accessing something that the medical people haven't noticed because it's not their job? | |
| This is a very difficult thing to do. | |
| And at the time, I did not know that these people could have been actually tuning into things because I had never had a spiritual background whatsoever. | |
| I didn't believe in extraterrestrials. | |
| So I didn't know these other possibilities. | |
| But I did think this is really interesting that they are tapping into something within me that I've never told them when they would bring up messages from my angels and things like that. | |
| So the ones who gave you information about yourself were the ones who made you think these people, there may be something else going on with them, as opposed to the other people who are sadly because of whatever condition that they have, you know, they believe that they're accessing things and they're not. | |
| So the difference for you was That some were passing you information. | |
| Well, I started to look at all of them differently because I started to, in my experience, I started to see how we treat people like this. | |
| And I personally didn't agree with it. | |
| I thought there must be something more. | |
| If this is the leading edge of thought, a culmination of everything that we're taught at this university, and this is how we go about helping people with mental illnesses, I feel as if we're missing something. | |
| And I thought, I just don't feel this is the leading edge. | |
| There has to be more. | |
| There has to be another way that we can help people aside from giving them all these medications so that they would be drooling on the couch. | |
| Because it didn't seem like much of a life for most of them. | |
| And then to be honest, what really upset me, what made me not continue with my studies was I saw firsthand how, in my experience, the pharmaceutical industries at the time were testing them. | |
| So they were testing different medications on them, which, of course, these residents agreed to. | |
| But how did they agree? | |
| I mean, if they were incapacitated, sadly. | |
| I mean, look, this is, I don't want this to turn into a sort of new style, isn't it? | |
| But I'm just curious, as a journalist, how can somebody who is not in a position I would have thought to give consent give consent? | |
| That's a very good question. | |
| It didn't seem like informed consent from my experience. | |
| And what era was this, Sarah? | |
| Sorry to jump in. | |
| Oh, let's see. | |
| Oh, my gosh. | |
| 1998. | |
| All right. | |
| So you saw this, and you thought there was more to what these people, some of these people, were experiencing than meets the eye. | |
| How did you come to make a leap out of it and into something else? | |
| I was looking for other things and I knew one time in my studies, we talked about regression therapy. | |
| And it had always stuck with me as a possibility. | |
| Again, I had never had, I didn't have a spiritual background whatsoever. | |
| But when I thought about doing something like this, I thought it makes sense to go back to the root cause of an issue. | |
| Why not do that with people? | |
| Why not do that so that they can actually be helped? | |
| Because I noticed that it seemed like through, from my experience, through medication, it was just putting a band-aid on something that would never go away unless you got to the root cause of the issue. | |
| So I thought it makes more sense to go to the root cause than just give somebody something for their symptoms. | |
| And after a while, I decided, you know what, I'm going to study and I'm going to become a master hypnotist because I don't know if you can tell, I have to be really good at whatever I do before I do it. | |
| But in order to become a master hypnotist in 2009, when I became one, you have to do past life regression, lose weight, and quit smoking. | |
| And those are the things I did. | |
| It took me two years to become a master hypnotist. | |
| And I noticed right away, I mean, right away, that there was something about doing a past life regression with people because some people could heal themselves after just one session. | |
| How do you know that? | |
| Because they would tell me. | |
| They would come in. | |
| And let's see, the first time I had someone heal themselves, it was something, I think it was like a bone. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| It was a bone. | |
| She had given birth to her third baby girl. | |
| And when she did give birth, it kind of twisted something within her tailbone. | |
| I had never heard of anything happening like this before. | |
| But when she did the past life regression, all of a sudden her tailbone healed itself because after her session, she said that she was completely healed. | |
| So that's the only way I know is from my clients telling me this after the session. | |
| But after that, I thought, I want to help people. | |
| So I'm going to go follow this path. | |
| So I studied with Dr. Brian Weiss. | |
| He was my first teacher. | |
| Talk to me about him for Pete. | |
| I know of his name. | |
| I've never. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know, he was somebody that I've never spoken with, but talk to me about Brian Weiss. | |
| So Brian Weiss was a psychiatrist, and that's what attracted me to his practice or to him as a teacher, because he was a lot like me in the fact that he had a scientific background, first of all. | |
| And he was a psychiatrist, and he was also using regression therapy. | |
| And he noticed that when he would bring people back to the root cause of their issue, that they could heal things. | |
| And he had this one client in particular named Catherine. | |
| And when he regret, she had been wanting to lose weight and they couldn't find a solution for this. | |
| She just never could lose weight. | |
| But when he brought her back to past life, she realized, or when he brought her through regression therapy, thinking for the first time, he would regress her to a childhood memory, because that's what you're taught is that you regress people to a childhood memory in regular regression hypnosis. | |
| And Brian Weiss thought he would regress her to the childhood memory where her weight issues started. | |
| But when he did this, she didn't go to a childhood memory. | |
| Instead, she went to a memory from a different lifetime. | |
| And she understood through that where her weight issues originated. | |
| And then she started to lose weight. | |
| So that's how Dr. Brian Weiss got into all of this. | |
| And how did, I mean, I should be asking him this, but how would he know that the memory of something before her life now was genuine and wasn't something that she'd seen in a movie? | |
| That's a great question. | |
| He didn't believe it at all the first time. | |
| He just thought, well, that's nice. | |
| This healed her. | |
| So this is great. | |
| It took him a long time to actually figure out that what she was seeing could be something real, because it didn't make sense that she was healing from seeing this scene or this story if it wasn't something that really happened. | |
| And what really changed his mind was the same client, because when she was under hypnosis, she all of a sudden could tap into this other place, it seemed like, where she was able to communicate with other beings in this place. | |
| And she said, oh, Brian, your son is here. | |
| And Dr. Brian Weiss had never told her that his son died in infancy. | |
| And she said, your son is here and he has messages for you. | |
| And she started telling him these things that only he knew and she didn't know. | |
| So that really changed his life. | |
| So was she accessing heaven? | |
| Well, what you might call heaven. | |
| You could definitely call it heaven. | |
| I mean, I've noticed that when my clients access this place, they often call it the in-between. | |
| So it's the state that everybody goes to, everyone, even if you're an extraterrestrial into this place. | |
| It's after a human leaves their life, they all of a sudden consider themselves a we all of a sudden, as soon as their soul leaves, this individual body, and people call it the in-between and they describe it the same. | |
| I don't know how many sessions I've done over my lifetime, but everybody explains it the same way, basically. | |
| So when you go back using hypnotic methods, you can either access somebody's previous life, or if you imagine that all these previous lives, assuming that there have been previous lives, are like an old-fashioned Rolodex, you know, card index system. | |
| And each life is a card, and then there's a bit in between each card. | |
| And sometimes you access the bit in between? | |
| Definitely. | |
| And what's fascinating is that to do the kind of session that I do now, I never lead the client. | |
| So everything is driven basically by their own intuitive inner guidance system. | |
| So some people call that part the higher self. | |
| And that's who brings the client to the most appropriate time that they're supposed to view. | |
| But yes. | |
| Interesting. | |
| So you're studying with Brian Weiss and he's telling you about this case of Catherine and the woman who identified his son in another place. | |
| Just out of interest. | |
| I mean, this must have been as fascinating to you as it is to me now. | |
| What did he do about that? | |
| Well, he, you know, that was what really helped him believe what was happening because he didn't before, he didn't really believe it before, but that swayed him. | |
| That swayed him to open up different possibilities. | |
| And that's ultimately what led him on his path. | |
| And so he decided to start regressing more clients with issues, but he didn't start right away regressing them to a past life. | |
| He just noticed that they were going to past lives when they had a lot of times when they would have different issues that needed to heal. | |
| Right. | |
| So are we saying then that all or a lot of the things that ail and trouble us here and now might have their origin in another time? | |
| Is that right? | |
| Yes, not all, but definitely many do. | |
| Many. | |
| I mean, you know, I've noticed that if people have issues on the left side of their body, it's usually from the past or a past life. | |
| A lot of times, if people have hand, left hand issues, it's from holding too tightly to something in the past. | |
| And that could be something in a past life. | |
| One time I had a client that had a really big fear. | |
| This is an interesting fear, fear of swallowing in public. | |
| And she went back to a different lifetime where she ate a poisonous flower as a child and the whole town watched her have trouble swallowing in that life. | |
| And that's how she passed. | |
| So, you know, for her, that cleared up after that session. | |
| But what's really fascinating to me is people don't always go to a past lifetime. | |
| Sometimes people go to other lifetimes on other planets. | |
| Really? | |
| And I mean, look, that's going to sound pretty outrageous to some of my listeners. | |
| You know, I have an open mind about these things and I'm sure such things do exist, but what sort of planets, you know, not the ones that we can see, presumably? | |
| Not the ones we can see, although sometimes people do remember living on different planets that we can see, like Mars, believe it or not. | |
| Some people remember that. | |
| But people describe these planets in the same way. | |
| There's one planet that a lot of people remember living on. | |
| And sometimes when people are remembering this planet, they get very emotional. | |
| And they call it the home planet. | |
| It's really interesting. | |
| And they describe it with these spires on it. | |
| And from that planet, they can see a blue planet and a red planet. | |
| And that sounds like us. | |
| Yeah, it does. | |
| And so from this planet, on this planet, they remember that they don't have the same type of gravity that we do. | |
| They also, at the time, most people remember on this planet, they remember that they had evolved themselves so high that they didn't need to eat anymore. | |
| I know this might be, you have to have an open mind, but that is what I get a lot of the time. | |
| Well, if you get that a lot of the time, that's got to be telling you something. | |
| I mean, I don't know what it's telling you, but I don't know where that comes from. | |
| I suppose the kicker in this would be if they can tell you where it is. | |
| Well, you know, they say it's about 13 million light years away behind the Big Dipper. | |
| So I know that's a little vague, but that's what they usually, how they usually describe it. | |
| Well, I have much cleverer listeners than me who will be able to tell me whether the James Webb Space Telescope can access that. | |
| That would be very fascinating. | |
| That would be very fascinating. | |
| You know, what I've taken from this over the years, many of my clients remember living on other planets, is I just have a different, I just have a very, I guess, very different understanding of what people would say are extraterrestrials. | |
| Because honestly, in my opinion, extraterrestrials are us because people remember being extraterrestrials all the time. | |
| And they describe them in the same way. | |
| You know, I know there's many different extraterrestrial races, but it's fascinating because these are people's memories. | |
| And so how come if they're their, you know, their memories, then wouldn't that make it sound as if they are us? | |
| It would make it sound like there's some connection. | |
| Do any of these people talk of abduction here? | |
| Oh, definitely. | |
| Everybody describes that the same way when they're under hypnosis. | |
| Basically, it's they first see a big shining light and then they notice their body is frozen. | |
| And what's really fascinating to me is I always ask this question, is do they take part of you or do they take all of you? | |
| And they always, my client always explains under hypnosis, they take all of them. | |
| And then as they take all of them, they remember under hypnosis, seeing the different ship. | |
| And of course, there's many different races, but not very many that are involved in this type of, you know, contact. | |
| But the ones that are, you know, they describe what they're doing to them and why, if you want to know. | |
| I don't know what your listeners are into. | |
| But, you know, a lot of times my clients find out and they come in very afraid. | |
| They have these vague memories and no one wants to listen to them and they don't really, you know, know if they're crazy or not. | |
| And then they go under hypnosis and they themselves remember these experiences. | |
| But a lot of times, the different races that are contacting them, taking them aboard these ships are either them in the future or their ancestors or their family. | |
| Boy. | |
| So you say all their family. | |
| That means that reports of there being some kind of familial connection in all of this, that would kind of bear it out, wouldn't it? | |
| It would. | |
| I really don't know. | |
| Other researchers' information. | |
| I get my information straight from my clients, and it would. | |
| It would definitely connect us to these other beings. | |
| Because sometimes if you think about it, if you just think about it, people do have the concept that time doesn't exist in the rest of the universe. | |
| So that would make sense that there would be a future version of you and a past version of you, because you can tap into these past versions of yourself. | |
| But if you think about that concept, it would make sense that there's future versions of you that know what you're doing right now and might want to help you on your path. | |
| And so oftentimes my clients will explain that these different extraterrestrials are future versions of us, some of them, not, of course, not all of them, but depending on the different path that you're going to take. | |
| And then what would be the point of the experiments then that are claimed to have been done? | |
| Would they be a future you trying to find out something that may have been diluted down the generations? | |
| So there is a future version of humanity, if they do go down a certain path, where eventually they ultimately build their technology so much so that they lose their planet. | |
| So these are what my clients describe as the gray extraterrestrials. | |
| If you just look at a picture of how people describe a gray extraterrestrial, you'll see they're usually described as taller than us. | |
| They have these really interesting eyes. | |
| And the reason behind that is because, you know, that's what we would look like a millennia from now if we did go down. | |
| So you're saying they're us. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, that's a bit worrying because sometimes the grays are portrayed as the bad guys. | |
| Well, you know, I never find that out. | |
| I never do. | |
| I do know there's many different races, but like I said, I must have a different perspective than other people because I do this job every day. | |
| And this is what I hear through my clients. | |
| Many of my clients describe that there's another, well, there's multiple future versions of humanity. | |
| I don't know if your listeners ever heard of these beings, but they're called Arcturians. | |
| So they're a very beautiful race. | |
| They're the future version of humanity, according to those that choose a more spiritual path combined with the technology. | |
| And the fact that this future version exists means that there is a choice. | |
| So ultimately, it doesn't matter what some people choose. | |
| This choice has happened. | |
| So it has happened where people have chosen that and do basically follow that path. | |
| It's ultimate, you know what I've really realized through all these years? | |
| I mean, I know people know this probably, but we do literally create our own reality in every moment. | |
| We're rendering this reality. | |
| And we're so powerful, basically. | |
| It's amazing what we can do with our thoughts and our emotions because different extraterrestrials will say, you know, humanity has all the power. | |
| They just have no idea. | |
| And one time a higher self version of one of my clients came through and they shared this really interesting manifestation technique with my client that I thought was really fascinating because they said, you know, humans don't really realize that the energetics of a human allow them to manifest through their emotions because emotions are the gateway through the universe and | |
| anytime a human experiences a strong emotion, they're opening up different portals of possibilities for themselves. | |
| So all you have to do is really experience a strong feeling or an emotion. | |
| And if there's no resistance to what it is that you want, you can open up this portal or visualize something, a portal opening, and then visualize whatever it is that you want. | |
| And you can really manipulate your reality around you just through doing something so simple like that. | |
| But ultimately, we are so powerful. | |
| And I think that as a collective, we're starting to regain that we're starting to understand the power of our minds and the power of our thoughts. | |
| And we're starting to learn that we have a lot more power than we ever thought before. | |
| Okay. | |
| And that brings us back, doesn't it? | |
| And I know I don't normally talk about medical things on here, but we gave the caveat at the beginning about people going to see their doctors first. | |
| But that brings us back to the idea that things that ail you here might have a basis in the past. | |
| You told me one story, and I'm sure there are many others of that kind. | |
| Well, you know, I got into writing my book, A Hypnotist's Journey to Atlantis, this way. | |
| This is what happened to me. | |
| I wanted to take this one class. | |
| This is before I got into Dolores Cannon's method of quantum healing hypnosis techniques. | |
| So, I worked, I did Brian's, Brian Weiss's method for many, many years. | |
| And then I got into Dolores Cannon's method. | |
| And when I did that, I felt that there was a piece of the puzzle that was missing for me. | |
| And I liked her method just for me a little bit better. | |
| So, that is what I did. | |
| And I worked my way up from, from just being a regular student to being an instructor. | |
| So, I actually taught with Dolores Cannon's daughter all over the world, teaching in Egypt and Machu Picchu and things like that. | |
| But in order to get there, I needed to regress somebody on the spot. | |
| And I asked my friend, Jen, if she wouldn't mind being my hypnosis subject, because I needed to regress somebody to videotape her, to take this video submission, to go to one of the classes that I was trying to do before I became an instructor, before I became the highest level of this method. | |
| And I just asked my friend, Jen, because I didn't want to ask one of my paying clients, because I knew that this would be videotaped, and then this would be watched by the whole class. | |
| So, I asked a friend if she wouldn't mind. | |
| And I told her a little bit about this method. | |
| I told her, you know, this is a very interesting method because you can find out anything. | |
| You can find out your past lives and you can find out who you really are and you can even heal your body. | |
| And she looked at me and I thought, oh my gosh, she's going to think I'm crazy because this friend that I had asked was the teacher at the kid's school and she was not into any of this stuff. | |
| And I thought to myself, gosh, I think I made a big mistake. | |
| I should have asked one of my friends who was really into all of this stuff. | |
| Why did I ask her? | |
| And she just looked at me and she said, I didn't know that's what you did, Sarah, because I've been thinking about doing something like this because I have this condition that I haven't told anyone from the school. | |
| And I've actually been really suffering with this condition called pseudotumor cerebri. | |
| And she said she was working very closely with this team of specialists at the University of Miami. | |
| And they told her there's no cure for this. | |
| But what we can do for you is put you on this heavy duty medication. | |
| And this medication will help you live another 20 years, hopefully. | |
| And just to explain what pseudotumor cerebri, cerebral, we know that that's to do with the brain. | |
| What exactly is that? | |
| So it's a swelling with this brain. | |
| It's a spinal fluid swelling into the brain, creating this type of tumor. | |
| Right. | |
| And she was having these severe headaches. | |
| In fact, she didn't know she was suffering from this until one day she woke up and didn't have vision out of her left eye. | |
| And basically, she could only see a little bit. | |
| And so that's what made her go to the doctor to begin with. | |
| And then she had to go see these specialists because it was severe. | |
| So she was very interested in being my subject with any possibility to heal this because she was only 32 at the time. | |
| And she was just devastated. | |
| She had little children. | |
| And, you know, she was like I said, she was a teacher at the kids school. | |
| And so she agreed to be my hypnosis subject to videotape to go under hypnosis. | |
| But what's interesting, Howard, is she told me she had been to many hypnotists before, just so I knew. | |
| She had been to hypnotists before, hypnotists, stage hypnotists. | |
| And they would, you know, see who was hypnotizable. | |
| And they always told her, oh, you can't be hypnotized. | |
| So they would try and it would never work on her. | |
| Isn't that interesting? | |
| And yet sometimes we're told that, you know, psychics who try and read for friends doesn't work because they are friends. | |
| But here's Jen, your friend, and it works when you try to do it. | |
| Obviously. | |
| yeah so i regressed her and it was very interesting because i knew jen i had known her for 10 years so i knew she did not have a spiritual background i knew that she didn't believe in certain things that were you know quote unquote spiritual so her first session she re I regressed her and she goes back to this past lifetime in this beautiful place. | |
| And it's, you know, the way she described it in so many details, just of people with so much compassion. | |
| It was in the South Pacific. | |
| The details were amazing, just even down to what the birds looked like there, the plants, the trees, what her life was like in this place. | |
| And the society, it was a matriarchal society. | |
| The women were the rulers back in this ancient place because the women could subconsciously pass knowledge down from the mother to daughter. | |
| They never had to teach their daughters this information. | |
| It would be passed directly through the subconscious. | |
| And the women leaders would know which plant they could eat for different medicinal purposes and which plant would kill you ultimately altogether. | |
| So because of this important knowledge that the women would carry, they were ultimately the leaders of that society. | |
| And it was a very fair society in this ancient place that she was describing. | |
| And then she went on to describe the fact that she was the daughter of the ruler in this place. | |
| And so her whole life was basically focused on learning how to rule after her mother was not going to be ruling anymore. | |
| So she had to learn the different things about being a ruler and she had to understand how to lead her people. | |
| And she also had to be skilled in different methods of fighting because they had these different long spears and things like that. | |
| She also had this interesting technique of communicating with her ancestors through these special crystals. | |
| So all of a sudden, she realizes that there are different visitors that are visiting this beautiful, peaceful island wanting something. | |
| And these visitors are very highly advanced. | |
| They came in these different types of travel spheres that she described that had a different type of technology that her culture had never seen before. | |
| These travel spheres could go undetected until they arrived on their island and these different people would get out. | |
| They were people, but they looked a little different. | |
| They had whiter skin and they were very advanced. | |
| They had these very special suits on that seemed to regulate their body temperature and everything like that. | |
| And these visitors wanted something from this other culture that Jen's describing. | |
| And ultimately, they took, ultimately, they didn't get what they wanted, took Jen as a prisoner to this place that she described, called it Atlantis. | |
| And then when she got to this place as a prisoner, she described in so many details these different mechanisms, these apparatus. | |
| It was unbelievable that they had, they were using stem cell research. | |
| They were, you know, they had cars that could use propulsion mechanisms that enabled them to basically hover. | |
| she described this Atlantis place in so many details. | |
| And then Because, of course, people have been trying to locate Atlantis, you know, for as long as I've been alive. | |
| The way she described it, and I'll tell you, after this session, I heard a really interesting phenomenon happen at my office. | |
| The way she described it when she left her body after the end of that lifetime was different than the way the globe looks now because waters and coastlines were just in a little, they looked a little different. | |
| And back then, Atlantis was in the Atlantic Ocean and it spanned from Europe to North America. | |
| It was huge. | |
| And it went all the way over to Western Africa, basically. | |
| And Northern Africa was seen as a lone sandbar that went from Atlantis to the Sphinx of Egypt, because the Sphinx was the outpost of Atlantis back in those back in those days. | |
| I was going to say, when you were describing spherical craft, there are paintings on walls, aren't there, in ancient Egypt, from ancient Egypt, of beings, gods, whatever they might be, sitting in spheres. | |
| Correct. | |
| Yes. | |
| So you think that's what she was describing? | |
| Oh, definitely. | |
| And it was interesting because after she had left that lifetime, what I do with my clients is after they leave their lifetime, then I bring them to an even deeper level and I access their subconscious. | |
| And in that way, they can find out why they were shown this lifetime and they can find out whatever they want to know about themselves. | |
| So I asked your subconscious, why did you show, you know, Jen this lifetime? | |
| And they said, because the information about Atlantis and Lemuria has been buried for thousands and thousands of years because the information is so powerful, it would create change amongst the humans. | |
| So how come she was telling you it now then? | |
| Well, this was her subconscious. | |
| So then I asked, why are you telling this now? | |
| Good question. | |
| And her subconscious said, because you guys have chosen this lifetime to uncover this together. | |
| That was the reason why she had this brain condition. | |
| So the brain condition was to get her to see me because she wasn't into any of this stuff and she would have never volunteered to do this had she not had an issue where she needed to come see you. | |
| So you guys have chosen this lifetime to uncover all this very valuable, important information for humanity. | |
| And we want you to share it with the world because the world needs it now. | |
| Nobody understands this and this is so important. | |
| To me, I thought, okay, whatever. | |
| Honestly, I have a hard head. | |
| A pretty big story, but you know, if it had some kind of benefit for her, then I think that's interesting. | |
| So I thought, well, that's fascinating. | |
| I guess it takes, I guess it takes me a while. | |
| So I thought that's fascinating. | |
| And then I asked her subconscious, okay, well, is there any other purpose for this brain condition? | |
| Does she need this anymore? | |
| Is there something else she needs to learn from it? | |
| I asked a million questions. | |
| And they said, no, that's it. | |
| It was just to get her to see you. | |
| We'll heal it now. | |
| And then I asked, what are you doing? | |
| And they said, well, we're draining it now. | |
| She'll feel a little bit of discomfort as it drains. | |
| So she will notice within the next two weeks that it will be continuously draining. | |
| But within a month, she'll notice a huge difference. | |
| And when she goes back to her team of specialists, they won't believe it because it will be healed. | |
| So she went back to her team of specialists. | |
| I believe it was two months later. | |
| I don't really know for sure. | |
| I'll have to ask her. | |
| But she went back because she had to, but she did notice right after her session that she could feel the draining. | |
| So she thought, wow, this is really interesting. | |
| And because of that, she stopped taking her medication. | |
| So she arrived to her team of specialists and told them, I look, I stopped taking my medication. | |
| And they were furious with her. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| But then they did a scan and she was healed. | |
| They were shocked. | |
| Okay. | |
| And is all of this documented? | |
| Yes, of course. | |
| And Jen, is she around? | |
| I mean, is she going to be doing interviews like this with you? | |
| Because that's a story. | |
| You know, I would love it. | |
| But she, what happened was she moved. | |
| Well, she's around. | |
| She moved to Hawaii. | |
| So she's living in Hawaii. | |
| The reason is because she wanted to move back to the civilization. | |
| So she after we uncovered all this information and Jen wrote a book. | |
| It's called Child of the Universe by JLF Sullivan. | |
| So she wrote her own firsthand perspective of this. | |
| And I was never planning to write a book, but her subconscious kept saying, you guys both need to write books. | |
| You're going to write a book, Sarah, and Jen will write a book. | |
| They need to be separate because there'll be two different, two for different things. | |
| That's what her subconscious kept saying. | |
| So I thought, okay, that's interesting. | |
| And I thought it was really amazing that she healed. | |
| And then this very interesting phenomenon started happening in my office. | |
| All of a sudden, these people that had never met one another, so they didn't know one another, would come in for a session and they would regress, and I was not leading them, to these other lifetimes in Atlantis or Lemuria. | |
| And I documented all of those in my book, A Hypnotist Journey to Atlantis. | |
| And I thought, at first, this is just a coincidence. | |
| I don't understand why everybody just goes back to Atlantis or Lemuria. | |
| It would be either Atlantis or Lemuria or Atlantis or Lemuria. | |
| I was going to ask you this, and we don't have a lot of time, but how come people who are hypnotically regressed are always somewhere interesting and or they're somebody important? | |
| How come people go back to Cree Thorpe's or Detroit? | |
| Or they do. | |
| Oh, they do all the time. | |
| All the time. | |
| So you do have contact with people who you take back to quite mundane lives, but in other eras, places. | |
| Gosh, like I do this every day. | |
| And yes, definitely. | |
| But while I was, but it was, it was, see, I knew that usually people go back to other mundane lives. | |
| So why all of a sudden, as I'm working with Jen to uncover this information, why all of a sudden are almost all of my clients going back to Atlantis and Lemuria? | |
| And I started asking my friends that also do this method, is this happening to you guys too? | |
| And they would always say, no. | |
| And the subconscious would keep saying, it's because you're supposed to document this and you're supposed to write it into a book that will help a lot of people because this information has a consciousness. | |
| So how they described it, how multiple clients that didn't know one another described it, is this information had its own consciousness. | |
| It couldn't stay stagnant. | |
| It couldn't sit. | |
| It was important for me to share it because it's so valuable for people to understand. | |
| So that's why I finally wrote my book. | |
| So who were the masters behind this? | |
| Who were the beings or the energy or the force that caused Jen to have that problem that made her come to you? | |
| And then once she'd unburdened herself through hypnotic regression, she got better. | |
| Who was behind all of that? | |
| Who orchestrated it? | |
| Us, all of us. | |
| Ultimately, collectively, we hide things from ourselves just so we could rediscover it. | |
| Because ultimately, when we leave our lives and we go back to the in-between, we remember everything. | |
| And when you come into an incarnation, you come in to learn, you come in for this game, this journey of remembering, this journey of experiences. | |
| And so you hide different things from yourself in order to remember it in different ways. | |
| And it's so powerful to do that. | |
| It's such a unique experience. | |
| I mean, different beings that live on other planets will always say being in a human body is so amazing. | |
| It's like really experiencing everything. | |
| Ultimately, they describe it as like a video game. | |
| You come into this body and it's like you get to experience things in this 3D reality and this slow, dense reality. | |
| And it's unlike anywhere else, because if you go to certain other realms or certain other planets, people remember it's blissful always. | |
| And of course, you can choose to Have a lifetime somewhere else that's blissful. | |
| But bliss can get boring. | |
| So many beings want to incarnate as human to have these experiences because ultimately, when you leave your life, you value those experiences. | |
| You value those terrible times, believe it or not. | |
| You value the sadness. | |
| You value the happiness. | |
| You value all of it. | |
| And it's such a unique experience. | |
| So yes, we hide these things from ourselves in order to learn it in the way that we do, to have this journey, to have this real experience of being a human. | |
| Right. | |
| So it's us. | |
| So we all have programmed somewhere within us the knowledge of things that have passed. | |
| How do we know that, you know, you said you were accessing the subconscious. | |
| Now, the subconscious is a wonderful thing that can create a whole realm, a whole universe. | |
| How do you know that any of this was real? | |
| You don't. | |
| There's no way to know that any of it's real. | |
| But the way that I come to understand it as real is my clients don't know one another. | |
| So how come they describe things in the same way? | |
| How come they describe like Atlantis and Lemuria in the very same way, complete with like the smog, the technology, the different suits? | |
| Or how come they just describe these extraterrestrials in the same way or the different planets in the same way? | |
| But I know I told you, I have a hard time believing things. | |
| But if you have different people from different backgrounds who don't know each other and they're all telling you the same thing and they're going into that kind of detail, which you say they are, that kind of indicates to a reasonable, rational person, which hopefully I might be, there's something going on. | |
| Well, I have video. | |
| I have video that I am allowed to share. | |
| So oftentimes when I'm at a conference, I'll show these different clips of these different people who don't know one another, and they're describing these same things. | |
| It's really amazing. | |
| And, you know, the way I, when I was working with Jen, the way I tested her was that I would have her describe the same story as she was under hypnosis, but I would secretly be testing the story because it's quite possible to have a false memory. | |
| And so I can usually test a false memory because if a person's under hypnosis and they describe the same story differently, like something's different in the story, then it leads me to believe that it's possible that it's a false memory. | |
| But this never happened with Jen. | |
| Every story she described was exactly the same. | |
| So that's what helped me personally believe the story to be valid. | |
| Well, I kind of think you're onto something, Sarah. | |
| I'm not entirely sure what it might be. | |
| We're at the end of this now, and thank you for giving me your time in the Florida Keys. | |
| What are you going to do with this knowledge? | |
| What do you do next? | |
| Well, I've been speaking about it, and I'm just trying to help people through, you know, sharing this information. | |
| I have two books out now. | |
| One's called, like I said, A Hypnotist's Journey to Atlantis. | |
| And then I have another one, A Hypnotist's Journey to the Secrets of the Sphinx. | |
| And I continue working with clients almost every day. | |
| And I'm speaking at different conferences. | |
| I'm speaking at the UFO conference in Laughlin, Nevada, November 11th through the 13th. | |
| And then I'm speaking at the Conscious Life Expo in LA. | |
| And I decided this year I want to teach people how they can tap into this consciousness, this universal consciousness through self-hypnosis. | |
| So I'm planning on showing people and giving them some tools to do this themselves because you can really heal yourself. | |
| And it's not hard. | |
| So that's what I'm doing. | |
| Okay. | |
| I hear what you say. | |
| And I refer my listener back to the caveat that we put in at the beginning that I'm not going to repeat because they will have heard it. | |
| And I thank you very much indeed. | |
| I think you tell a fascinating story of this journey that you've been on. | |
| And if it is what it seems to be, then it might be leading somewhere else. | |
| And that somewhere else is going to be even more fascinating. | |
| So I wish you well with it. | |
| Thank you so much, Howard. | |
| Thank you so much for having me on your show. | |
| Thank you. | |
| You've been hearing Sarah Breskman Cosme, your thoughts about her and what she had to say. | |
| Always gratefully received. | |
| And that's good. | |
| Of course, you can always give your feedback to individual guests. | |
| Most of the guests that I've had on this show over the years welcome feedback of any kind. | |
| And I'm sure that the guests that you just heard and other guests would be very appreciative of your thoughts on the way that they put themselves across, for one, I guess. | |
| More great guests in the pipeline here at the Home of the Unexplained. | |
| So until we meet next here, my name is Howard Hughes. | |
| This has been The Unexplained online. | |
| And please, whatever you do, stay safe, stay calm. | |
| And above all, please stay in touch. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Take care. |