Former Oncology Nurse Patricia Monna... Remote Viewer, Medium and Ordained Minister... finds missing people. In one case a killer she located threatened her. Patricia is hugely enthusiastic about what she calls her "crazy ability to do this" she's based in Calgary, Canada...
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The guest on this edition of The Unexplained is Patricia Mona in Calgary, Canada.
Patricia is a remote viewer, psychic medium, ordained minister.
That's quite a combination.
And one of the most important things she does is assist the police in Canada with finding missing persons, people who've disappeared, so that finally loved ones and relatives and families and people like that can have closure on those situations.
She'll talk with us about how she does those things and about some other stuff too.
It's always a controversial field.
If mediumship and remote viewing and this kind of stuff is not for you, please turn off now.
You know, I don't want you, you know, getting concerned or peeved about the show if the subject matter is not for you.
But I think Patricia Munner is a very interesting person.
And I think the way that she applies her abilities is pretty unique, unless you know different, as they say.
So Patricia Munner in Calgary, Canada, the guest on this edition of The Unexplained.
And I hope that you enjoy this.
I don't think I have any more to say.
Thank you very much to Caroline for sending me your UFO story.
Caroline, that's very kind of you.
And I hope, please let me know that you get some further information when you submit your report to the places that I know that you're submitting it.
And we'll see what happens about that.
It does seem to me that more and more people seem to be videoing with their phones and experiencing with their eyes things in the sky that they can't explain.
Now, some of them may be drones or they may be planes.
It may be the police helicopter or the air ambulance or something like that.
It may be perfectly explicable, but some people have experiences that they believe they can't explain.
And there seem to be more of those.
So I'm not an image analyst.
So if you send the images, I'm not going to be able to tell you in forensic detail what they are.
There are people who do that kind of thing.
But I do know that there are more people in this year of 2022 and last year as well who seem to be having those experiences.
And it's fascinating why that might be happening now.
It may just be the fact that people have got recording equipment in their phones, or it may be that something else is happening now.
Your thoughts, welcome as ever.
Let's get to the guest now in Calgary, Canada, as I speak these words in the sweltering heat.
Patricia Mona, thank you very much for coming on my show.
Thank you so much for having me.
This is wonderful.
I don't think, and you know, I love Canadians and I love Canada, I don't think that I've had anybody on this show from Calgary.
So talk to me about it.
We've got a heat wave at the moment.
It is incredibly close and incredibly hot as I record this in my little apartment.
Tell me how it is in Calgary.
Is it snowing?
No, thank God.
That stopped in May, thank goodness.
But no, today, you know, at 9.30 this morning, it was showing 28 degrees on my thermometer in my car.
So I think it's going to be a very, very hot day here today.
We're probably looking at about 35, you know, at the height of it.
But we're in the midst of the Calgary Stampede right now.
So there's a lot of tourists and a lot of traffic right now in Calgary.
Just remind me, what is the Calgary Stampede?
Well, apparently, it's the greatest outdoor show on earth.
It's the most fun you can have with your boots on.
That's the slogan.
It's basically one big fair that has, you know, the chuck wagon races and the horse races.
And on top of that, this huge fair, you know, with Ferris wheels and the games and everything.
So yeah, it's been around, I think, for over 100 years now.
Every year.
We tolerate this every year.
Well, we've just identified yet another gap in my knowledge.
I'm going to have to check it out, Tricker.
I really must.
That's what we're known for is the Calgary Stampede.
That's what has, I think, has put us on the map more than anything else.
Okay, the Calgary Stampede.
Wherever in the world you are listening to this, and I have listeners in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Japan, United States, South America, South Africa, you name a place.
The Calgary Stampede.
Well, now we've established where you are and the fact that your weather is pretty similar to the hot stuff that we're having here in London, which in a big city like this is not nice.
Patricia, you don't want to be here.
And now we've done the preliminaries.
I want to get to know about you, okay?
I can't even remember how I found you for this show.
I think you spoke with somebody who I know or something happened that kind of brought us together in this way.
So I need to know as much as I possibly can about you for my listeners' benefit here.
You are an unusual combination in that you're a psychic, a remote viewer, ordained minister.
That's a strange and rather fruitful concoction, I think.
Oh, yeah, I guess so.
You don't hear too many psychics out there promoting a connection with God too much.
But it's something that I was actually brought up a born-again Christian my whole life.
And where I really, really felt the connection really kick in in my life was when I started doing the work and when I started doing the remote viewing and the mediumship and the psychic abilities just came raging through.
Like I've always had them.
And for me, you know, as a child, or growing up, I guess, I didn't know my reality was any different than anyone else's.
You know, it's not like I saw dead people walking through walls or, you know, heard disembodied voices in my head.
So I really had no idea the capabilities or where this could take me.
And I do a lot of missing person cases.
That is probably what I'm known for the most.
And to date, I've been able to help solve and resolve 30 missing person cases.
So there's definitely something to this.
And that's something I also, I do it on my spare time.
I volunteer.
I've never charged a person a cent to look into a missing loved one or even when I do it with police and law enforcement.
You know, I believe that if God gave me this crazy ability to be able to bring someone's loved ones home, I feel like it's my duty.
It's a part of why I'm here.
And you're an ordained minister.
I am.
I am.
So that, you know, it's not something that I ever aspired to do or become.
It just throughout the pandemic, it's something that it's something that spoke to me.
And so I went ahead and did it.
Crazy enough.
I went ahead and did it.
And I'm actually marrying my first person at the end of the summer.
I get to marry people because I'm an ordained minister.
So put that on my bucket list of crazy and wild, cool things to do.
Do you still have to say things like those who God has brought together, let no man put asunder and stuff like that?
No, no, no.
I know nothing about these things.
No.
How do I explain this?
An ordained minister, I think, is more just the title of the leadership that goes with having this capacity to be able to speak.
And how do I explain that?
Becoming an ordained minister gave me the ability to be able to stand in my power, speak my truth, speak about God, you know, not just say universe.
I mean, I could have done that before, but I don't know.
It just feels more authentic and real to me that this is who I am.
It was my way of showing up to the world and saying, this is who I am.
And yeah, so it was just something that spoke to me over the pandemic.
When I was a kid, the churches in Liverpool, where I'm from, very much, I think, although they might have privately acknowledged some of this, there would have been a lot of disdain for this whole idea of mediums and talking to spirits and seeing beyond the veil into the next reality, if indeed there is one.
So how come you managed to, I can't think of anybody else I've ever spoken with who does these things.
How do you manage to bridge those two things?
Well, 1 Corinthians 12 verses 10.
Well, actually, 1 Corinthians 12, the whole thing talks about the gifts of the Spirit and it talks about the ability of prophecy and healing touch.
And so that's what I believe that I've been given was the ability to be able to prophesize or look in and be able to obtain accurate information.
And the thing is, is that when how I know, because I've been challenged before by other Christians who say, no, what you're doing is not of God.
It's of the occult.
And this is where we have to remember, no, it speaks of the gifts in the Bible.
It speaks of this.
It talks, it even says all of this you can Do and more.
So, why not?
Why can't we?
And the one thing that I know, the difference between something we'll say that is not of God versus, you know, a direct streamline to the big guy is the accuracy.
The accuracy is number one.
And Satan is not omnipresent.
He can only look into what's coming up.
He actually is not privy to the past or what's in a person's heart.
Satan cannot read what is in a person's heart.
Only God can do that.
All right.
So you're saying that if we accept there is good and evil and if there is a Satan on the other side of goodness, you know, into the side of badness, that they actually, they're denied access to the places that you can access.
That's a good way of putting it.
They're only privy to certain information.
And the other thing, too, is you've got to look at the heart of the reader, of the person who is giving the information.
I always tell people, you know, if you ever go into a psychic and you get creeped out, spooked out, run.
Take your money and run.
You know, or if they don't hit things that there's no way a person could know just by looking at you, take your money and run.
Don't pay for it.
I actually have a money-back guarantee on my website that if I can't connect with you, if I can't see for whatever reason, I can't blow your socks off, it's free because it's my way of showing the world, okay, no, some of us aren't full of crap.
Some of us aren't just looking to make money on someone else's sorrows, right?
There are accurate, true people who can do this, you know, and that's why I love working with law enforcement.
I love doing missing person cases because it's proof.
You know, I didn't have anything to do with these cases, you know, of them going missing, but I can certainly bring them home.
And all I need in order to be able to do that is a picture of the person that's gone missing and their last known whereabouts.
Yeah, the last place they were seen.
That's all I need to know.
And then from there, I track their energetic signature.
And what then I do is what I take what I see in my head, in my visions, and I then have to go onto Google Earth and literally drop pins directly where the search and rescue should be looking for that victim.
And it's usually right exactly where I say and under the circumstances that I've described.
Because with remote viewing, it's like you're literally seeing the recording of what is happening.
We're kind of leaping.
I don't want to, I'm sorry to jump in.
I just don't want to jump ahead too much.
You know, we've got the psychic medium side of this and the religion part we touched on.
There might be those who say that you don't need to be religious to access this stuff.
If you believe that this stuff exists, then religion doesn't have to be a part of it.
I think we need to clear that up.
But also, I don't want to lose great stuff here.
See, it's not, but it's not about religion.
It isn't.
It's about faith.
It's about your own personal vibration.
It doesn't matter if a person calls it God, Buddha, Allah.
That is just putting a label on it.
It is something so much greater, so much bigger.
And I want you to imagine it like a radio station because we are constantly sending and receiving signals all day long, whether we realize it or not.
You know, how often have we thought of someone and then we bump into them or thought of someone and then they call us?
We brush that off as coincidence, but it's not.
We picked up on the vibration of their thoughts that were coming towards us.
Or, you know, you've heard of when two people are on the same vibe or on, you know, on the same wavelength.
Think of it in energy.
When you're on the same wavelength as the target that you're looking for, everything just opens up.
So it's actually a matter of being able to manipulate your own energy to match the frequency of the target that you're looking for or to even match the person that is sitting in front of me if I'm doing a reading.
So for example, compassion, empathy, understanding, believe it or not, those are psychic door openers because if I can feel what you're going through, I can understand it.
Does that make sense?
Yes, it does.
I have known psychics, though, who will tell me if I've got to know them, and there was a period in my life when I went to see a lot.
I don't go to see any now, but I did at one point, especially when I was a younger guy.
If you get to know those people and if they get to know too much about you, I was always told that because they empathize with you too much, they can't be accurate in what they do.
No, I don't know where you heard that from, honestly, but no, the more empathy and compassion, it's a vibration that floods your body that is the door opener, right?
Because if I can't understand where you're coming from, I can't understand your motives.
I can't understand what led you up to do something that I'm seeing.
Therefore, I can't see the outcome of what you're predisposed to do moving forward, if that makes sense.
I have to be able to feel into my client.
And the minute I do, and I do that by when I start a reading, I actually hold hands with my clients.
And I take three deep breaths where we line up our breaths together.
We match our breath, do three deep breaths.
And in those three deep breaths, I'm actually saying a little prayer over us to guard, guide, and protect the conversation and only let information of the highest good to come through.
By me even touching a person's hands, I have the ability to see what brought them here, to see everything.
It's almost like watching their life and rewind.
What?
And you would say that you would know things about them without them telling you anything.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I don't want anyone to tell me anything, the less I know, the better.
And even when it comes to a missing person case, I purposely do not watch the news because if there's a case that's been on the news and I have a preconceived notion, we'll say, oh, they think it's foul play or whatever, well, then that gets into my head and that will misconscrew the information that I pick up.
So I purposefully do not watch news and I only take cases from directly from police or from the immediate family of the person that is missing.
So I don't actually want to know anything about a person when they walk in.
And to be honest with you, people need to know not to come to psychics as often as they do, you know, because there's not a whole lot that changes in a month or even in two months.
I don't think that a person person should see a psychic more than one to two times a year.
And even at that, like, because then you're making decisions based on someone else's paradigm of you and what you're going through, right?
So I can give people advice and tell them what is coming up and, you know, explain to them, you know, maybe you should not be making this choice.
You need to be making this choice.
But ultimately, it's still up to them on what it is that they want to do.
Right.
So if we're, if as a psychic, if we're, if we're seeing a person too much, it's, there's not a whole lot that's going to change in that time period.
Right.
And that's where I think people then end up reaching.
And that's when accuracy becomes an issue.
So I don't know.
I think everyone's different, though.
Isn't it true, as one psychic told me years ago, that the vast majority of people who go to see a psychic, and certainly it was the case when I was doing a lot of that, they want to know about their career, their love life.
Am I going to find the partner who'll walk with me through the rest of my life, whoever she or he may be?
Am I going to be happy?
And that kind of stuff.
So the number of reasons, you know that when somebody comes in to see you, they're not doing it for the, you know, for nothing.
They're doing it for a reason.
And it's got to be one of those reasons, hasn't it?
Well, and health.
Health is another good reason why people come to me.
So I was asking...
But shouldn't they be going to their doctor?
Absolutely.
I was a palliative oncology nurse for 13 years before I jumped over and did this.
So one, a part of my ability, and I've always been able to do this, even before I jumped over and did my first reading, I've always, even in nursing, been able to stand at the threshold of a room, take a look at a patient, scan them from head to toe, and know where their cancer was, know what they needed.
No, it just shows up in the energy around that person.
I understand.
I don't know how the health system works in Canada, but if you were an oncology nurse for a period, that is, a cancer case nurse, didn't all of this stuff that you're talking about here conflict with your medical duty in some way?
No, it enhanced it.
It helped it.
When you're working in cancer care, there's a lot of patients that are nonverbal.
I worked on that unit where it was all end stage cancer.
And so to me, it was a blessing because it helped me to connect with them on that deeper level.
And then it also helped me to be able to talk to them, you know, about their fears because you hear a lot.
Families aren't there all the time.
And it's the nurses that, you know, are the shoulder for them to cry on, the big bear hug that they need when they're scared that they're going to pass away.
A lot of people have huge fear around death.
It's the big void, the great unknown, you know?
And so also part of our job was to be there mentally, emotionally, physically, all of it.
So to me, my ability actually helped.
I would like to think it really helped with my nursing.
I absolutely hear what you say and it sounds fascinating.
But I wonder if professionally you may have been in that situation and you'd be talking to somebody who was facing the end of their life.
And if you said to them, well, it's okay, you're going to go on from here.
You're going to another place, this, that, and the other, couldn't you have been fired for that?
No, not here in Canada, because we actually take courses on how to be able to handle, you know, religious conversations and faith-based conversations.
And for me, it's never been about judgment.
It isn't even about religion.
It's about the fact that we are so much more than our physical bodies.
And working in hospice care, they actually encourage those conversations because that ultimately is their next step.
And there's so much fear based around it that they actually train us on how to have those conversations.
Okay, in your belief of how these things work, what happens when we get to that stage?
Because many of us will end up in a hospital where we're facing a battle that we're not going to win.
My two parents ended up in a hospital and it was very sad.
They never came out.
And that happens to so many people.
People die in many, many ways.
Some people expire in their sleep.
Some people die in accident.
We know.
But in that particular situation, from your experience and from what you say that you know, what happens when people are at that point of crossing over?
I think so many people have read accounts and want to know about that.
So when I've, I've held my fair share of patients as they took their last breath.
And I can tell you the room absolutely fills up.
It fills up with angels.
It fills up with deceased loved ones.
It's like a party.
And for anyone out there who does, you know, professional remote viewing or has the ability to astral travel, you'll know that we can come out of our body now while we're alive.
We are way more than our physical body.
And actually, I'll get back to What you asked in one second, but the remote viewing that I was trained in, they actually teach you how to be able to induce an outer body experience, go get information on the target and bring it back.
And that way, it's literally like you're right there, you're viewing it.
It isn't just, you're not just imagining it.
It's not a vision.
It's literally like you're right there.
You can touch it.
It's, yeah, it's right in front of you.
Well, when we pass away, understand every single one of us, none of us makes it out of this place alive, right?
So the greatest thing that we can do is actually embrace it.
Get excited.
You know, if you are facing an end stage diagnosis, start getting your connection on.
Start looking into, you know, what does happen after I pass away.
But listen to what vibrates to you, because you can't take on someone else's truth and make it yours and call it faith.
You have to find your own.
It's your own connection with source, with creator.
And what people don't realize is that God, our angels, our spirit guides, you know, and our loved ones, they're constantly talking to us all day long.
And what people don't realize is that that voice in your head, that's not just you talking to you.
Like I said, it's a radio station that is constantly sending and receiving conversations from that side all the time.
You know, how often have we had, you know, the perfect idea pop into our head?
Where did that idea come from?
You know what I mean?
So there is so much more that we can't see outside of us.
But for example, you look at electricity.
I don't understand how it works.
I can't see it in the air, but I know if I pay my bill and I turn my light on, it works.
Why do we have more faith in something like that?
Then, you know, I think that if people understood how the other side worked and what we do have to look forward to, there wouldn't be so much fear around it because dying is the most natural thing that happens when it's staying in the body, the physical body that hurts.
When we die, it is a lifting up.
You literally peel out of your body and you get to see everything.
It's like an outer body experience at first.
But what spirit has shown me is that, you know how people who have a near-death experience, they say that they see a light at the end of the tunnel and they saw their whole life flash before them.
Well, what people need to understand is that we do go through that tunnel.
We do have that life review, but it isn't like we're sitting there in a theater, you know, with a box of popcorn eaten with Jesus, watching it on the big screen.
It isn't like that.
We actually feel it through the eyes, ears, five senses, everything of every single person we've ever come into contact with.
And that's why in the Bible, it says, do unto others as you'd have done unto yourself, right?
I have to say, before I start getting those emails from people, you know, there will be people who not take exception.
I don't think anybody would be there taking they might, who knows?
But, you know, the talk of religion and Jesus and all the rest of it, some of the people who might email you after this or email me after this will say, that doesn't have to be, you know, assuming that these things do happen, that doesn't have to be part of the equation.
And I don't know what to say to that.
You're not.
You're not just sitting there with Jesus.
It could be Buddha.
It could be Allah.
It could be.
But what happens if I don't believe in anything?
What happens if I don't have faith in anything like that?
Your guides are still there, whether you believe in them or not.
They're there, right?
It's kind of like, well, whether you believe in doctors or not, they still exist.
So it's the same thing.
It's our belief system.
So there will be a guide and there will be a room full of people when you cross over.
I've seen it.
I've experienced it, you know, working in hospice.
And when you do go through that life review, we do, if you've gotten to, we'll say, a fist fight at 16 years old, it's your own fist that you're going to see flying in your own face.
And whether you're walking down a busy New York street and all of these people are looking at you, you're actually going to see yourself through the eyes of every single person who saw you because we are all one.
And that's the only way we can understand, truly understand the ripple effect of our actions and what it causes.
And from what I've been shown is that forgiveness is the only way to eradicate that.
Forgiveness and asking for forgiveness, it literally will obliterate that, wipe it from the pages of your book so that you don't have to experience that part of life.
You sound remarkably certain that this is what happened.
Can you tell me why you're so certain about this?
How do you know that that is the process?
And, you know, take it from me.
That's why I'm doing this show.
I would like to believe that there is a process that we go through and that we are ultimately evolving.
It's not just like turning out a light, which many of my friends believe it is.
See, well, and this is the thing, though.
Don't take my truth as your truth.
Take my truth as something that plants a seed and opens up your curiosity so that you can experience this.
Because as far as I'm concerned, spirit is something to be experienced.
It's a personal relationship that you have with that higher power, right?
So I can explain it till I'm blue in the face, but the greatest thing that I can do is create the perfect space for you to experience it.
This is why I teach meditation so that people can experience that healing and that connection for themselves.
I teach people how to see angels.
It's the coolest thing in the world when people realize, oh my God, that's an angel and I didn't know it.
It's intense when you realize it's literally right in front of you and we walk through it every single day.
It's using a different part of your brain.
Of course, there's left brain logic, and that's the 3D.
And then there's the right brain, which is the creative side, the one that's connected to source energy and the 5D.
And so, for a lot of people who are very left-brain logic, it is hard for them to comprehend any of this, really, because it's almost like they're operating on a different operating system.
But for me, it's I've experienced so much that I can't, I could never deny that there's a higher power.
I could never deny that there's life after death.
How do you find 30 missing people?
You know what I mean?
Like, not only that, I'll tell you a couple of the craziest and neatest predictions that I gave was there was a lady and she was single mom working 16 hours a day.
So it couldn't have happened to a better person.
But I sent her in the reading, I said, oh my God, you're going to be winning the lottery.
You're winning the lottery, literally winning the lottery.
And she laughed at me, you know, thought I was crazy.
And she says, okay, so if I'm winning the lottery, when is this going to happen?
And I told her, I said, November 28th, you're going to buy the ticket, December 2nd, December 2nd, you're going to find out you won.
So interestingly enough, I had even written the dates down on a little sticky paper and she had stuck it to the side of her fridge for the year.
Cause I think I read for her in like February or March, it was of that year.
And so she came back to me.
It was $7 million that she won.
$7 million right down to the day that I told her she was.
That was the 28th of November and the whole thing played out in the couple of days beyond that.
And she won the lotto, $7 million, which is a serious chunk of change.
I'm sincerely hoping that she, number one, acknowledged what you said and number two, gave you one of those $7 million, did she?
No, not at all.
And honestly, I wouldn't have taken it anyways because that's hers.
That belonged to her in her book.
Each and every one of us, I look at as a living book that we are writing the pages with each day that passes by.
And so for me, it's easy to read someone's book.
It's almost like going into a living library, pulling their book off the shelf and just telling them what's on the pages.
So for me, it was easy to see that and to feel the excitement that would go, you know, with winning the lottery.
It was, yeah, it was $7 million.
So it was a big deal to her.
You know, I'm trying to get my head around this.
You know, I've always dreamt of winning some money.
She went to the place where you buy the lottery ticket and you pick the numbers on the 28th of November, knowing that she was going to win.
No, see, here's what's even more random.
It's actually written on my website, the testimonial that she wrote, but she said that the lady, she had just gone to Shoppers Drug Mart and the lady had said, oh, there's a new lottery out.
Did you want to try it?
And she said, I don't usually even buy lottery tickets.
She goes, Patricia, I completely forgot that you had even said November 20.
And so when on December 2nd, she bought the ticket, shoved it in her purse.
And so when she found out she won, she immediately went home and looked for that yellow piece of paper.
And I actually have a picture of it, of the paper that I wrote it on.
I have a picture of that as well with the testimonial that she wrote out.
It wasn't luck.
No, here's the thing.
It wasn't luck.
You cannot have something that is not meant for you to experience.
And I mean that.
Then everything is written in the book, whether you're going to win $7 million Canadian dollars or whether you're going to go on holiday in Santa Pay or whether you're going to marry Brad Pitt.
It's all in there.
Yes.
And that's what I read every day is people's books.
So it's all predetermined when we come into this world.
It is.
And same thing with our death.
You cannot die a minute before your time.
Even accidents.
There's no such thing as accidents.
That's why I can predict that.
Well, then you can stop them.
Yeah.
Well, yes, yes, and no.
Some of them you can't.
I don't think, I really don't think she could have, you know, not won the lottery.
No, but that's what I'm saying about accidents.
You know, I took that as being an accident where you're run over by a bus.
Yes, absolutely.
That's what I mean.
Even with accidents, none of it's random.
Whether a person, you know, gets hit by a bus or wins the lottery, it's pre-written in your book so that you can experience it and learn from it.
This is how we grow.
And if you look back on your life and look at all the struggles, hardest point in your life, you know, when you look back at all of the connections that came out of it, you can see that there was mass transformation just waiting around the corner for you.
Let's talk about the missing people.
You used a word in conjunction with your work with the police, I think, about 15 minutes ago.
The word was victim.
Is it always victims of something that you're locating?
Not necessarily.
I mean, it's been everything from suicide to homicide to a lady just walked off and wanted to leave her life behind.
But I don't know if this is going to be your next question or not, but I get asked a lot, how many people do you find alive?
And I'm going to be very honest, I've only found one that was alive.
And I think one of the biggest reasons is because I do a lot of cold cases and historical crimes.
And usually, you know, if someone hasn't been around for 30 years, chances are they're not around.
Right.
So I do quite a few historical crimes.
But I get called into, you know, active ones that are, you know, drop what you're doing and go look.
But it's everything from kidnapping, homicide, like I said, suicide.
I've basically I've seen it all.
Boy.
Okay.
Well, let's try and go into some of those.
Can you talk to me much about the woman who just walked away from her life?
How did you become involved in that case?
So that was actually the only case that I Found her alive.
And what's interesting is that was my very, very first case.
So, what happened there was I had just started going to a psychic development class because one of my girlfriends had been running it.
So, I'm going to go for support.
And, you know, we were talking afterwards, having coffee, and her cousin, who's an RCMP officer, RCMP is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police up here in Canada.
There are feds.
Anyways, he had texted her a picture of a woman who had just gone missing.
And so she looked at it, looked at it.
She's like, I'm not really picking up anything.
She goes, Patricia, let's test you.
Do you pick up anything on this?
So she handed me the picture.
And immediately I started seeing the details of the house that she was in.
I knew she was alive.
I could actually even see right down to the floral print of the couch that the woman was on, laying on.
So I knew that she was sleeping on someone's couch.
So someone else also knew and had helped her, you know, to cover up the fact that she was still alive.
Because what she did was she torched her vehicle and left her ID there.
And so anyways, within four hours, we were able to find her based on the information that I provided.
But like I said, she was the only person that I found alive to date.
Isn't that interesting?
And was she pleased that she was discovered?
No.
And, you know, I often think of her too because it was an abusive situation that she left.
And so that one, it really stuck with me because, you know, some people, I don't know, they've got good reason to walk off.
So I hope she's safe and, you know, living her best life wherever she is.
I hope she figured it out.
Well, God, I hope so too.
Presumably her abuser, the one who created the situation we believe she walked away from, did not get to find her location.
I hope so.
I hope so.
Okay.
But you can't know that, can you?
I could if I looked into it, but I mean, that was back in 2008.
I don't, yeah, that's all I really remember about.
It's interesting.
I don't think I got her.
It's a double-edged sword, isn't it?
Because some people don't.
And that was going to be one of my questions, but you went there anyway.
Some people won't want to be found for very good reasons.
Some people won't want to be found because they've got an issue that drove them away, you know, an issue with themselves and they really need help.
And other people may be evading, I don't know, the forces of law and order.
And other people, like that woman, may be evading or getting away from something really bad.
So it's a real hard thing that you have to do, isn't it?
Yes.
Yeah.
That one was tough.
That one kind of haunted me for a while.
And you're hoping today that she's okay.
Well, I sincerely hope she is.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
And when you discovered that she was in a situation that was abusive for her, did you tell any authorities about that?
Oh, yes, they knew.
They knew.
So I'm sure that they would have gotten her the proper protection and the proper care and whatever she needed.
Like the police are really good.
We've got programs up there, up here, you know, for victims.
And so I'm assuming they would have helped her to the best of their ability.
I mean, apart from her abuser, there would have been people around her, I am sure, who, for their own peace of mind, would like to know that she's alive and okay.
So there's value in what you did.
Yes, I'd like to think so.
Yeah, yeah.
And in those situations where you're helping police solve crimes, I mean, that's a very valuable thing.
How do they, because a lot of police forces won't acknowledge that they do this kind of thing, will they?
How do they contact you?
Well, it was very difficult to start to work with the police.
So what happened was after we found that lady, the RCMP officer had called me to thank me.
And I said, you know what?
That was so easy.
Can I do it again?
How can I help?
You know, I'd love to be able to do this because I saw everything play out.
And he says to me, no, no, no.
Sorry, the RCMP, do not use psychics.
He goes, I actually sent that picture to my cousin, not to you.
And he said, but we found her based on what you told us.
He said, so I'm going to put you in contact with a man by the name of Kelly Snyder.
And he is the founder of Find Me.
So Find Me is an organization out of Phoenix, Arizona that is got everything from active law enforcement, retired law enforcement, search, track, and rescue, DEA, facial recognition technology.
They have so much cadaver dogs, which is different than a search and rescue dog.
That's much different.
They specialize just only in cadavers.
So they're a very specialized unit.
And one of the great things that Kelly Snyder does is he has 115 psychics that volunteer.
None of us get paid for it.
And he sends us out cases a lot.
And so I started working with Find Me back in, I think it was 2008, 2009, volunteering.
Sorry, not working.
I didn't get paid for any of that.
And a case, one of the Find Me cases landed on Canadian soil.
So I had a chance to kind of highlight my talent here.
And then word kind of got out.
And there are specific officers that use me quite frequently.
And then there are other times where, you know, an officer will get my name from another officer.
Or like, for example, I do, I've done quite a bit of historical crimes with the RCMP out in Saskatchewan.
So it doesn't necessarily need to be in Alberta because all I need is a picture and their last known whereabouts.
Right.
So they can be anywhere in the world.
It doesn't matter where the person is.
And can you think of a case maybe where somebody was brought to justice that you've kind of been particularly proud of?
Let's put it that way.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Okay, here's a good one.
Here's a good one.
So, back in 2016, I got contacted by a lady who's so her family, the family home was burnt down.
They lived on an acreage.
The mother, father, and sister lived on an acreage.
The other lady, who's the sister, lived up in Edmonton.
And there was a brother who also lived on the acreage, but he lived in a separate house on the property.
Well, the house with the parents and the one sister burnt down.
And so I was contacted by the sister up in Edmonton.
She says, we need to find out who did this.
Why would they do this to my parents?
My sister's missing.
They couldn't find her body in the rubble.
Well, they did.
She wasn't missing.
She was actually in the rubble, but the house had been burnt so bad that they didn't find traces of her until much later.
So anyways, the sister sends her, she couldn't come down.
So she sends her grown-up daughter.
I know this sounds a little complicated, but stay with me.
She sends her daughter to Calgary to come and meet with me so that I can look in to what's happened to her family.
And so the daughter then, and immediately when I looked at the picture and saw the property, I knew that the son had done it, the man that was living on the property.
I knew he had done it.
And so at first the daughter's like, you know, I can't believe you're saying that.
Why would you say it?
I said, look, this is what it was over.
This is what he was wearing.
This is what the inside of his house looks like.
This is what the inside of your grandparents' house looks like, you know.
And so she goes home and she tells her mother this, who is the murderer's sister.
Well, what does the sister do?
She drives down, makes the trip down to Calgary and sits with me.
And as she, she actually yelled at me, I can't believe you're pointing the finger at my brother.
I said, look, I'm really sorry, but this is what I see.
And I know he did it because I know there's going to be an arrest.
And not only that, I saw him do it like when I remote viewed it.
So anyways, what does she do?
She goes straight to the family farm where the brother's living and confronts the brother and tells the brother, there's a psychic in Calgary by the name of Patricia Mona that is pointing the finger at you that swears up and down that you did it.
She described the circumstances, blah, blah, blah.
What is this about?
So of course the brother denies it, but then turns around and calls me and starts threatening me.
And it was the, it was scary because it's not like I have protection doing this stuff.
You know what I mean?
And so.
Did you call the cops?
Well, at that point, I had already had, yes, I had already contacted the police officer in charge of the investigation.
And they had already, like, they knew what was going on.
I called it in right away as soon as I saw it.
And so anyways, he threatened me.
And so I had to look over my shoulder for about eight months.
It took them eight months, even though he knew he did it.
It took them eight months to actually make the arrest, just to make the arrest, because they have to have the evidence set in stone.
It has to be without a, with, without a reasonable doubt.
You know what I mean?
You can't charge someone unless you know, no, no.
So the police, by the time they charge someone with something, they know it's you.
So anyways, eight months it took to make that arrest.
Well, the guy was, I don't know what he was thinking because he only got 11 years to begin with.
And he disagreed.
I don't know why he got 11 years.
I didn't follow the case that closely after it was done.
I was just really glad that he was had been arrested.
Did you testify?
No, no, I didn't.
No, no, no.
And I never, no, no.
That's something I don't ever.
I have not had to do because I'm a confidential informant.
So I don't have to testify.
My name doesn't have to be brought up.
But he knew because the sister had gone and told him that I had pointed the finger at him.
But here's the funny thing.
Karma has a way of coming around.
I'm not sure why they only gave him 11 years, but this guy was so stupid, he took it to the Supreme Court.
And instead of it getting dismissed, the Supreme Court handed him 25 years consecutive for each murder.
So before I thought I was having to look over my shoulder, you know, in 11 years.
Now I'm good.
He's in there for the rest of his life.
So the Supreme Court threw the book at him.
And protected you in so doing.
That's a very, very, very scary case to be involved in.
And when he threatened you, I mean, the person who told him his sister should not have told him it was you.
Should just have said, some person said this.
But, you know, that happened and there's nothing you can do about that now.
On what basis did he threaten you?
Did he say, you're making false claims about me and I'm going to deal with you?
Or did he say, you know something about me and I'm going to shut you up?
How was he threatening you?
Was he saying that you were making false claims or what?
Yeah.
He said that he was going to sue me for deformation of character.
How dare I make this claim?
What else did he say to me?
Oh, and here's the weirdest thing.
Then he asked me to actually come out there and walk the property to see what I pick up.
And that's when I hung.
I was like, you're nuts.
Like, oh my God, I know you did this.
I know you did this.
I mean, you're not going to go and do that, are you?
Without a team of mountains and some dogs.
Oh, my God.
I wouldn't have.
There's no way I would have put myself in that kind of danger.
But I truly believe that, you know, if God gave me this crazy ability to do this, he's got my back.
He's looking over my shoulder for me, you know, because it's pretty easy.
A lot of the cases that I work on are pretty easy for me to get to the bottom of and to find the location.
And when you say that, what do you do?
Do you sit down and say the name of the person, or do you go into some kind of routine?
How do you get to, I mean, look, we've all seen those TV programs where the medium who's consulted sees, you know, full color, three-dimensional images of the crime or whatever it might be.
How does it all work for you?
Well, it almost feels like a memory, a memory that I am looking into.
So if I asked you what your favorite movie was, who was in it, what was it about, the way you would retrieve that information and the way it shows up in your brain when you remember it and remember the scenes and the actors is exactly the way it shows up like that for me.
It feels like I'm like, oh yeah, I remember when they did that or, oh, I remember when, you know, the house was located in the north corner of the property and the one that was burnt down was a little more south.
And it just shows up like a memory.
Like I've seen it, been there, yeah, watched it.
And so the greatest way I can equate it is it's like a movie because it's not like description.
It's not like I'm seeing or hearing dead people's voices in my head.
It isn't.
It's my thoughts or it feels like my own thoughts, but I've learned to listen to the voice within my own thoughts.
And I can clearly decipher when it is the voice of spirit and when it is me, but it still sounds all the same, but it feels different and it looks different, if that makes sense.
It does.
You know, I'm thinking about my favorite movie, probably The Shawshank Redemption.
And I can, as I do that, I mean, I've seen that movie so many times, I can repeat the dialogue.
But I can see the images in my brain.
I can see Andy Dufrane tiring the, you know, the jailhouse roof.
You know, Andy says, you know, a bottle of suds for me and the guys here.
That was a good movie.
I've probably seen it eight or ten times, but that's the best description of remote viewing that I think I've ever had in all the remote viewers that I've spoken with, you know, through this strange existence that I have.
All right.
We talked about that case, which, I mean, that's a hell of a case to be.
I don't know how you topped that.
That was nerve-wracking.
It was a little nerve-wracking.
In 2022, what kind of cases are you working on in this year?
I actually have three on the go right now that I was supposed to work on.
So I was on vacation for the last 10 days and I was supposed to bring my laptop, my books with me, everything so I could work on them.
And I haven't even had a chance to touch them yet because I forgot them in my office.
So I'm not quite sure what those cases are about.
But one of the last ones that I did was actually suicide.
Right, and was that somebody who committed suicide and disappeared in a place where they couldn't be?
That's terribly...
Obviously, for everybody involved.
And you were able to find the body of the person who done this.
Yes.
Yeah.
And when a body is where I see it is and, you know, the circumstances surrounding the disappearance match up to what I said, that's a hit.
That's a hit.
Bringing the body home, that's a hit.
I don't get caught up in the emotion of it.
I don't.
I look at this as part of my work.
You know, it's like, I think that nursing and working in healthcare, especially end-stage cancer, really prepared me to do this stuff.
Because to me, it's a job.
And let me focus on what needs to get done.
Emotions can come afterwards.
The way I would equate it is, you know, you don't, a lot of people, when they're watching, we'll say a movie or, you know, and someone's getting shot on TV, you're not going to break out bawling just because you saw that on the screen, right?
So for me, if I see that someone has been shot or we'll say someone took their life, I don't allow my emotions to get wrapped up in that.
That's not part of my job.
And it never upsets you.
No, no, it's got to take a lot to upset me doing this stuff.
I think that the biggest thing that upsets me with working with a missing person case is when law enforcement doesn't believe in this ability.
At this point in my career, I actually do have a police resume that I've collected of all police recommendations, recommendations from family members, coordinates where I show, you know, I dropped the point here and search and rescue found them exactly at that point.
And I've got that all from search and rescue.
So I've collected enough proof, I'd like to think, you know, but at the end of the day, it's still up to the police officer in charge of the investigation on if they want to work with me or even take my advice and listen to what I have to say.
It's still up to them.
Do you think if you'd been asked, you could have found Osama bin Laden?
Of course, they did find him in the end, but it was a long hunt.
I wasn't doing this back then, I don't think.
When did they find him?
What year was that?
You know what?
One year at the moment, especially after those two years we all had out of our lives.
I'm going to find out for you.
But look, a celebrated case like that, though, somebody that, I mean, for example, at the moment, there's a, I think it's the 10th most wanted person on the FBI's list.
It's all to do with a cryptocurrency scam.
You might have heard about that case in the media.
I don't watch the news.
Okay.
I don't watch the news.
All right.
Well, let me tell you, most wanted person, this woman has been dubbed the crypto queen after raising billions of dollars in a fraudulent virtual currency scheme, currently on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list.
And there are photographs of this person.
It's been on the BBC.
It's been on the CBC.
It's been on the ABC.
It's been on every BC.
Could you find that person?
Probably.
Yeah, if I tuned into her, probably.
You know, something you would put if you did and you could, you would be on the front page of every newspaper.
Yeah, but who'd want that?
Who the heck would want that?
Honestly, this is something that I do for free and in my spare time when I can.
So it is something that I would never, ever charge or make money at.
I would never.
I make enough doing readings and teaching classes and stuff like that.
I don't need to, you know, take money from someone in their worst time of need.
No one ever saves up, you know, for their loved one to go missing.
Right.
But a case like that, yeah, I've never been asked to work on like high, high-profile cases.
If they did come to you and ask you, would they just have to show you a picture of the person and tell you the circumstances and you'd go and do it?
Yeah, and where she was seen last, a picture and where she was seen last.
Okay.
Well, this person, nobody knows where she is.
She's got away, it seems, with an awful lot of money from an awful lot of people.
You know, that would be an interesting one.
And Osama bin Ladin apparently was discovered on the 2nd of May, 2011.
Oh, it wasn't that far back.
For some reason, I thought it was like 2005 or 2006 or something.
Did you know something?
Because these last years, this last decade or so, it's all been a blur.
I couldn't remember.
I think a lot of people are like that, couldn't remember.
There are other things, for example, and there is a new hunt, we believe a new technical mechanical search going on for MH370, the plane that disappeared supposedly in the Indian Ocean.
Could you locate that plane?
Yes, and I've located a downed plane before.
I've done a case like that before.
So yeah, I probably could.
Now, here's the thing.
It's getting them to listen and getting them to get out there and search because my coordinates are only going to be as good as their weakest search team member, honestly.
Because if someone can't get out there and search exactly where I'm telling them to search, of course, it's going to look like I'm off or the person's not there, right?
And this remote viewing can be used for anything.
I've been working with archaeologists out in Australia on sacred burial sites and massacre sites.
And that's all really I'm allowed to say about that.
But you can use this ability for so much more than just, you know, a missing person.
It gives you a glimpse into history and time and an understanding, you know, of what happened.
So really, you can look forward and backwards and in time.
There's no such thing as time in the matrix.
When you're remote viewing and you're seeing in to that energy, there's really nowhere and nothing that you can't see.
Interesting, you work with archaeologists just finally here, Patricia, that there are some places in the United States and other countries that are like sacred sites, they're mounds, and there are other things like pyramids or things that look like pyramids, and people don't know the full details of who built them or how they were able to do that.
Could you help with that?
Yes, I could.
And actually, back in 2020, I was supposed to go to Egypt and actually figure out how those pyramids and stuff were built.
And we can discuss that, but that would take up probably a whole show because it has to do with electromagnetic magnetism.
It has to do with the elements that are in the air, a person's ability to be able to obtain and retain a charge within their body.
They were, the people who built the pyramids were not slaves.
I'll put it that way.
They were very enlightened humans.
It's not like they were extraterrestrials.
I didn't see them come down on a spaceship.
This thing was built.
But I don't think that we today understand the full capacity of what that thing did.
It's dead right now.
Those pyramids do not, you know, and from what I understand, because I've never been to Egypt, but from what I understand, you can literally feel the energy, you know, coming off of those pyramids up to a kilometer or two away from those pyramids.
And that's not even what it was remotely in its time.
I believe that those pyramids were energy conductors and they're planted all over the world for the energy that they, the natural energy, the stars, the earth, the air, all of it has to do with the creation of those pyramids.
That suggests that we're coming to understand that there was a race of people, or maybe several, who understood stuff that we, you know, we don't understand now.
We've forgotten it, but they knew things and they were able to create things and they were maybe connected and they traveled.
It's all fascinating, Patricia.
It's all fascinating.
I was just going to say really quick, we've lost our divinity, honest to God.
We've lost our ability to communicate with the stars and the star beings.
We've lost our ability even to communicate with nature.
Like it's just crazy how dumbed down our abilities are now compared to what they were, you know, a couple thousand years ago.
Patricia Mona, great pleasure to speak with you.
If people want to read more about you, because I think we've only just scratched the surface here, where would they go?
Well, my website is www.patriciamona.com.
And I do also have a YouTube channel.
It's Patricia Mona Intuitive Consulting.
And I do talk about this stuff on my YouTube channel.
And I also teach meditations.
So yeah, if your listeners ever want to find me on there and I do teach this stuff.
So on my website, you can sign up either for my newsletter that lets you know once a month what's going on for classes or you can just even look on my website and you see the list of classes because I teach both internationally and locally.
And you're full of enthusiasm for it all.
I can hear that.
Thanks.
I love what I do.
I feel very blessed.
No, it's great to speak to somebody who is so into it.
You know, people always used to say that about me in the radio.
Maybe that's a similar kind of thing.
Patricia, thank you so much.
Thank you so much for having me and wonderful questions here.
Thank you.
Your thoughts welcome about this edition of The Unexplained, as indeed with all the editions.
Patricia Mona, I thought she was very, very interesting talking about the locating of missing persons.
That's a fascinating, if you can call it that, gift.
I don't think I would necessarily want that.
I think you have to be special to be able to handle the things that you might experience and see when you do that.
But your thoughts, welcome about that.
Guest suggestions, welcome too.
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