"We'll Beat The S*** Outta YOU!" Piers Morgan Called a ****! Derek Chisora & Deontay Wilder
Derek Chisora and Deontay Wilder will both fight for the 50th time at the O2 in London on Saturday. For Chisora, it’s the last dance. Win or lose, he’ll retire.For Wilder, it’s the last chance. A defeat would spell the end of his ambitions for a final tilt at the top. It’s a heavyweight blockbuster; streaming live on DAZN. And before they face off in the ring, they both face Piers Morgan in the Uncensored studio... and things get heated! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Verbal Jousting in the Ring00:11:47
You're in a very good mood and you want to kill me.
So let's get that out the way.
I'm not actually fighting you.
No, I don't want to kill you.
If that was the case, it would have been done.
You try to make me talk about something that I don't want to talk about.
No, no, I'm not talking about it.
Look, this segment is not about him.
For my last time speaking, respect that.
Deontay, you've been in the studio before.
Do you remember?
I know a about that.
I'm off you.
I don't know about it.
I said we didn't want to bring him up in the first place.
It ain't got shit to do with him.
Fair enough.
I'm a grown man.
You're not going to tell me what I'm going to talk about when I don't want to talk, but we are going to talk about it.
I got more responsibility than you have life left in you.
And as you said now.
Just tell him his ass.
Who?
You.
Me, your Tyson Fury.
You.
What?
Because you're the one, because you're one.
Maybe we'll beat the shit out of you.
Maybe bring Tyson Fury.
Maybe you could try it.
Tyson Fury's predicted that Derek Chezura is going to knock you out.
Every so often, there's a fight which means a whole lot more than winning or losing.
Derek Chezura and Deontay Wilder will both fight for the 50th time at the O2 in London on Saturday.
For Chezoura, many are saying it's the last dance.
Win or lose, he says he'll retire.
For Wilder, maybe it's the last chance.
A defeat would spell the end of his ambitions for a final tilt at the top.
It's a heavyweight blockbuster streaming live on DeZone.
And before they face off on the ring, they're facing off with me here in the uncensored studio.
Derek Chezoura, Deontay Wilder.
Join me now.
Gentlemen, how are you?
How are you, mate?
What?
Well, my early assessment before we started was that you're in a very good mood and you want to kill me.
So let's get that out of the way.
I'm not actually fighting you.
So, Deontay, let's start with it.
We've met before.
Most definitely.
No, I don't want to kill you.
If that was the case, it would have been done.
But you don't seem in a very good mood, or are you in just hiding it?
I'm in a great mood.
You are?
You know, it's fight week.
So talk to me about fight week because you guys are both about to have your 50th profile.
I cannot imagine what it feels like to get into a ring and have a fight with somebody in front of millions of people watching.
When you get to this stage, here we are, Monday night.
You're going to fight on Saturday against this guy.
You're both big, professional, experienced, heavyweight boxers with massive punches.
People die in the ring.
This is real, right?
What we're doing now is sport.
It's like theater.
It's like, you know, a bit of verbal jousting.
What you guys are going to do is real.
What is that feeling like as you get nearer for you?
I mean, you know, as you train, they say the hardest part is in training.
You know, you go through all the morning workouts.
You go in the afternoon workout.
Sometimes you have night workout, you know, depending on where your mindset is and where you want to be come the night of the fight.
They say your best is when you're performing and training and sparring and different things like that.
And over the time, people don't understand as a fighter, you're drilled in day in and day out, your opponent, day in and day out.
And this is who you want to hurt.
Because at the end of the day, this is the hurt business.
What do you feel when you look at it?
I mean, you know, when I'm next to him, when I feel, when I see him, you know, at the end of the day, like I said before, the love is always going to be there.
That's my brother.
But on the night of the fight, when that bell say ding, you know, it's just a different, it's going to be a different feeling.
You know, once we get putting out our clothes on, being ready to go, we're warriors at the end of the day.
You have to hate him in that moment?
You don't have to.
I don't have to hate you.
Some people have their own different antics of going inside the ring or Looking at a fighter, wanting to build dirt on him and fight him.
The special ones, you don't need it.
You know, it's in us and on us, you know, to be able to perform and do what we have to do.
Terry, what do you feel?
Me?
I just want to throw punches.
That's how I feel.
What do you feel when you look at him?
I see another black man who's done very well for the game, for the sport.
A guy I always wanted to fight from day one.
This fight was meant to happen time ago.
It didn't happen.
And it was happening.
So it's a.
I know exactly what you want, but I don't hate the guy.
No, no, I don't want that.
I don't hate the guy.
I don't want to put any words into it.
I'm not part of the.
I'm not part of the marketing cell, right?
Listen, I genuinely want to get inside your heads about how you really feel.
Bro, there's nothing in my head apart from a scouting space, bro.
That's why I box for a living, bro.
All I want to say to you is that mind games, I'm very good at mind games.
Yeah, that's one thing I'm very good at, mind games.
I can actually go in and somebody on mind games and win the mind games.
But with this guy here, there's no mind games.
I want to fight him and I want to take him out.
I don't see this fight going past five rounds.
Really?
Yeah.
This guy is one of the hardest punches in the history of boxing.
Yeah, this isn't.
I've seen him spark people.
You know what?
There's no part of you.
He's not you want to fight him.
I couldn't think of anyone else.
I'm not scared of him.
That's the thing.
I'm not scared.
That's different.
I'm not scared of him, but I really want to take it to him and bring it to him.
What I got.
I can guarantee you this fight, people won't be sitting down.
He's going to be explosive.
I'm going to stop fast.
So you've had a fascinating career.
Yes, sir.
Because you fought pretty well everyone.
I fought everybody apart from one person, sir.
I'm joking.
Right.
Well, you've lost a lot of fights.
13, that's not a lot.
Well, I don't know.
Tell me.
What do you think?
That's okay.
Is it?
Yeah.
How many have you lost?
I don't know.
I don't keep up with win-lose.
It's not many, though, is it?
I don't keep up with my knockouts.
Really?
I don't keep up with anything.
I just, I mean, I don't know.
You're not a stats guy?
I got into this reason.
I mean, I got into this business to risk my life to save a life.
That's it.
You know, I never got into the fame or the fortune or how many women I can get or sleep with or how many things I can buy with the money.
I never looked at those things.
When I fight, I'm in my A. I'm gone.
I'm back to my family.
I'm back to my children.
I have seven children.
I want seven more.
If it was up to me, I'd have 50.
That's my life.
I'm a family.
50 children.
I would love it.
Really?
I would love it.
Wouldn't get much sleep.
You know, I sleep when I die.
I always tell people, I'll sleep when I die.
That's when we get the goodest, best sleep of our lives when we die.
How much do you want to carry on?
You know, I got a goal.
I've always said a goal of coming into this business is to unify the division.
You know, I never had an opportunity or chance, you know, and that's my goal.
You know, so truly, I feel I have 10 years left in me if I choose to.
I don't need boxing.
Boxing needs me.
I can retire to this day and be fine, be well off, you know.
That's why retiring together on Saturday.
I did, I did.
Well, it could happen.
Coming back on the question you said, you know, you said he don't look at his knockouts.
I believe he does, though, because he's a man who actually got a statue around his house or back garden.
So I think he's a bit vain with that when you put a statue on your own land.
No, it's not.
It's not on my own land.
It's a sanctuary statue, and it's out to the public.
Okay.
But a black warrior, River.
Okay.
You should come and see it.
One day you will.
One day I will.
Yeah, when we go fishing.
Yeah, right?
But see, that's an interesting thing.
So one day you could be friends and go fishing.
And I get all that.
I did a show called Celebrity Apprentice USA with Lennox Lewis many years ago.
Nearly 20 years ago.
Donald Trump was the host of the show.
Can you believe that?
Yeah.
And Lennox and I spent a lot of time together.
We got into some deep conversations.
He'd been offered $100 million to get back in the ring.
And he kept saying no.
And I said, how can you turn that kind of money down?
He said, because I've made a lot of money.
I love my family.
Every year I don't fight again, my legacy gets better.
Because I think he had 44 fights and he lost two and he went back and knocked them both out.
And he said, and I don't want to end up punch drunk or brain dead or any of those things.
He knew when to stop.
Other boxers, you know some of them, that they miscalculate.
They go on for a fight too long or too many fights and they end up where they're a shadow of themselves.
That has to play on your mind the longer you fight, right?
You're both in your 40s now.
Deontay, talk to me about that calculation, about not having the fight too many.
I'm a warrior.
I don't think about those things at all, you know.
For me, when I go in establishments, when I shake people's hands, when I talk to people, it's all a feeling to me.
It's a feeling.
I know when it's time to stop.
It's a feeling that's inside will let me know.
Just like I do anything else in my life, it's always a feeling, an intuition of things.
I don't go in and think I'm going to get punched drunk or whatever.
The power of the tongue is real.
What you think will manifest into the world.
What you speak will manifest into the world.
So I don't speak of those things.
I'm a true warrior.
God has blessed me tremendously with so many different talents and ability and the skill to do so many things, especially with my mind.
It's very powerful, you know.
And when that time comes, I wouldn't know.
Derek, what do you feel about that?
About, what, brain damage?
Well, just about potentially going on too long.
I think life is just like, I mean, yourself, look at yourself right now.
You got a new hip now, huh?
Because you went to a restaurant and you drank some wine and you've...
I didn't drink any wine.
You missed a step.
I wish I had drunk wine.
I was told if I drunk wine, I would have fallen slower and I wouldn't have broken it.
Listen, boxing is not dangerous.
Boxing is dangerous.
No, it's not.
And it's a lie.
Boxing is not dangerous.
Really?
You can say that?
I can say that boxing is not dangerous.
Boxing is great.
Boxing is not dangerous.
It's only dangerous when people take the piss out of it.
There's no point of sparring with 16 hungloves when you're heavyweight.
That's when it's dangerous.
You use 20, 22, or 24s.
You protect the other person you're trying to fight.
Boxing is not dangerous.
How many people, how many instances, we do the math right now, how many people have been hurting boxing since boxing was created?
Would you know the answer?
No, could there be a lot of...
No, no, no, I don't mean the ones we know about.
I mean, are there lots of boxers who do go on too long, who end up wishing they hadn't?
Box has got on too long because sometimes the promoters are skinned amount of money and they have to pay the government money.
So this is why they have to go back in the ring.
It's an easy way to get the money you need to pay the government.
You know, there's a reason why people go back in the ring.
But I had some hard fights, some good fights.
I've made some money and I'm happy.
You know, I'm very content.
I'm so happy in myself.
Deontay, you've been in the studio before.
Deja Vu.
Do you remember?
Why Fighters Return to the Ring00:07:27
A while ago, you were interviewed by Simon Jordan.
Deja Vu.
Talk sport.
Let me just remind you.
You lost those fights, and those fights were lost.
And you saying that someone like Fury cheated you in those fights, I think it's kind of disappointing to me.
I know the truth.
I have the facts.
Y'all don't get it.
And that's the problem.
You think you get what you don't understand inside of him.
I'm not Fury.
What?
I don't know about that.
I'm not a Fury.
I don't know.
I said we didn't want to bring him up in the first place.
It ain't got shit to do with him.
Fair enough.
The f you talking about.
Now, Simon Jordan does have that effect on people.
But what made you so angry about that?
I mean, it's just the fact I'm a grown man.
You're not going to tell me what I'm going to talk about when I don't want to talk, but we are going to talk about it.
So when he said we're all going to talk about it, I'm like, hold up.
You know, I got more responsibility than you have life left in you.
You know, so how you tell a grown man what he's going to talk about?
And that just basically was it, you know?
It was peaceful.
It was calm.
It was pleasant until you try to make me talk about something that I don't want to talk about.
I said what I've said, and that's that.
I don't want to hear about being a spoiled brat because I've talked about something on another show that I didn't bring up.
It was elaborated on something.
I'm going to call you a spoiled brat.
No, I'm not talking to you, you know, about the situation where they wanted to talk about it because we were on another talk show talking about something that was brought up.
That was just it.
That was it.
How do you personally feel about Tyson Fury now?
Like, again, we're not here for him.
Well, I'm not getting into why we're not.
I'm not advertising him.
Why?
We're not here.
We're here for Derrick Tesora.
And that's it.
Well, because if you wanted to unify the heavyweight game, as you said.
When that time comes, we'll talk about it.
Okay, but there's got to be a good chance you would have to find him again.
And when that time comes, we will talk about it.
I'll sit right here in the same seat.
He can sit in that same seat.
And we can talk about it then.
Last time I interviewed you, it was with him, actually.
Correct.
Let's take a little look at that.
He's two inches taller.
He's two years younger.
He's bigger than you.
He's younger.
And better looking.
You heard that long laugh?
You know, hey, all these things are true.
You know, I must admit, you know, he's definitely looking good.
You know what I mean?
You got to commend him for that.
You know, to be where he had gone and to come to where he is now, that just lets you know that anything's possible.
You know, no one has no excuse about being overweight or whatever.
You know, they can say he's a professional fighter.
He knows the things to do.
It's more than that.
It's the effort.
It's that coming from that dark place and coming back.
See, what I was struck by with that was just the respect you had then.
That doesn't seem to be the case now.
Would that be fair?
Most definitely.
I have zero respect for him.
Why?
I've said what I've said.
No, no, I'm not talking about it.
I've said what I said.
I know what you said.
Look, this segment is not about him.
For my last time speaking, respect that.
Understand.
Respect it.
And move forward.
I've said what I've said.
If y'all want to, you're going back, you're seeing replays of things, go back to what I said.
You don't have the box of tissues right now, so leave me alone.
What do you need box of tissues for?
Because that's what I'm getting boxed with t-shirts.
That was crazy.
I don't want to make you say anything you don't want to say.
It doesn't bother me either way.
I just think it's interesting.
Man, we're doing replays.
Go back to the things I've said.
Why the reason I've said what I've said?
The only point I would make.
Giancier, the only point I would make is that you seemed then to have a lot of respect for him.
And as you said, let's tell him he's a cunt.
Let's just move on.
Who?
You.
Me or Tyson Very.
You.
Me?
Yeah.
Why am I going to be able to do that?
You keep talking about something you don't want to talk about.
I'm fighting this man right here.
Tell me someone.
Ask me something about him.
You think so?
Yeah.
Why?
Because you're just being one, because you are one.
So let's be honest.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, why are you doing the show?
Why am I doing the show?
Yeah.
Because I just wanted to come on your show.
Why?
Because I like cunts.
You were so big, I'd drop you.
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion.
And by the way, it doesn't make it a...
No, I'm joking.
I like you.
You're fine.
I just wanted to.
It doesn't bother me either way, mate.
Listen.
I've interviewed a lot of boxers.
I actually love boxing.
I love boxers.
I love boxing.
I find it fascinating that you guys do something I could never do.
Thank you very much.
You know, the guy I want to talk about, that guy, he's got PTSD about that guy.
So let's just move on.
Which is interesting.
But I'll move on.
It is interesting.
To the boxing world, it is interesting.
You can't pretend it's not.
And given that your ambition is to hopefully unify the whole heavyweight game, at some stage, you may have to talk about it.
Yeah, I got to get past him first.
Right.
So he's irrelevant right now.
You said an interesting thing to Simon Jordan, which I thought was really interesting.
You said to him he'd never understand.
I actually get on very well with Simon.
He's a very, do you?
I do.
How'd you get along with Simon?
I think he's brilliant.
You know why?
Because in a world where people are terrified of expressing opinions, he will say what he thinks.
People may not like it.
I like Simon, but I believe that.
I believe that.
You might not like him for having an opinion, but he's not afraid to express it.
Even when your size, with your punching record, he was not afraid to say what he thinks.
I respect that.
I'm not going to be afraid to speak mine.
I know that.
I speak my picture.
I respect myself.
My thing is, don't edit it.
Don't have an hour-long show, then edit it to benefit yourself.
Do you know what we do on the show?
Well, you edit things to make yourself look good.
That's it.
Yes, it was a lot of things said.
On this show.
Yeah, well, not on this one, on that show.
There was a lot of things edited that wasn't given to the people, the public.
If you're going to have me here and you're going to be interviewing me, give it to the people.
Give it full to the people.
Don't edit it and make it seem like you sound a good idea.
Don't judge me.
I'm a bad guy.
Do not judge me.
All y'all do it.
All you journalists do.
Can I get a word in?
You do it.
Do not judge me by the way.
I got my own camera.
Do not judge me.
I thought it.
So where's your camera?
Here.
I can guarantee you the reason this show is called uncensored is we don't edit stuff.
This will go out, including what you just called me.
This will go out.
Hopefully that will go viral.
We'll get loads of people to watch.
And I'll end up fighting the winner of these two with my broken hip, which would be the greatest thing that has ever been marketed in a design history.
But we are uncensored.
I believe in uncensored.
I believe in you saying what you really want to say and we don't edit it.
If you want to talk for half an hour about it, no problem.
I'm not going to chop you up to make you look bad.
Why would I?
That's what y'all do.
I don't.
I'm not all.
Why are you brandishing me?
It's like me saying all boxes are something.
Why would I do that?
Why wouldn't I judge you individually?
We'll see you when you bring it out.
Well, I'll bet you your purse from this fight that I don't edit it.
You're going to take that back?
I'm not going to take that because I don't know.
I don't know.
Uncensored Truths About Upbringing00:12:37
How confident are you?
I'll bet you your purse.
We don't get anything.
This will go out exactly as we're doing it.
Yeah.
And I'll bet you your purse.
Yeah.
Go on.
You want to take it?
No, I'll bet you a cigar, maybe.
What kind of cigar?
I don't know anything you want.
Well, if it's a Monte Cristo number two, then we're talking.
Done.
Deontay, the point I was going to make was you made an interesting point to Simon Jordan in the middle of that Firo about your upbringing.
That no one really quite understands what you've come from.
And I thought it was really interesting to remind my viewers that you come from what many would consider poverty.
I don't know how you would describe it.
In Tuscaloosa in Alabama, I've been there.
You were raised in a very loving household by your father, Gary, a church minister, a heavy equipment operator.
Your mother had left the family, so a lot of the heavy lifting of the parenting was done by your father, although I think your mother came back later.
He was paid at $635 every other week, your dad, to take care of you and your siblings.
And you said that from that point forward, life was survival mode.
Your dad said that.
Survival mode.
Talk to me about that.
I grew up in a loving family.
I didn't know how hard life was until I became older, having my own children, and he expressing it.
There are no times, you know, a child, do as a child, you do as a child does.
You go and play.
You be respectful.
You don't get in grown folks' business.
You don't sit in the same room as grown folks as they're discussing things.
So we really didn't know a lot of things was going on.
You know, a child lives life as life is presented to them, you know.
So many things that we had to go through, many struggles that we had to go through.
But, you know, it was normal to us.
We didn't understand things until you get older, you realize and you see certain things and certain things have happened.
You were like, you know, certain things you may see as a child that you really don't supposed to see.
You know, so it was a, although we were filled with love in my household, it still was a rough upbringing.
It still was a struggle in life.
You know, I saw my dad had to sacrifice many things, even eating.
You know, when he fed us, the only way he ate was to scraps from our plates and different things.
You know, kept a clean house.
You know, we were well-mannered.
We were very respectful, being that he was the pastor of the church.
You know, we represented him, you know.
But it was a lot of things that occurred, you know, that we had to go through as children.
What does he feel about what you've achieved with your life?
He's a proud father.
You know, I broke the curse.
I broke the chain for my family.
And we still live on to this day, you know, the generational curse of things.
So now I have generational wealth for my family.
My children never understand what I've been through, nor with their family, with their children and their children.
And that's just how the cycle was supposed to cycle itself out.
I interviewed Cristiano Ronaldo, the footballer, a few times, but one that really struck me was something he said.
He's got a son who's playing for Portugal, a very good player, really talented, under 16.
And he said, there's one thing I can never give him.
And I said, what's that?
He said, hunger, actual hunger, where you can't afford to eat.
And it struck me, you probably can empathize with what he's getting at, that when he was young, Cristiano, they had no money.
He was literally hungry for food.
And that can be an unbelievably motivating thing to somebody.
Most definitely.
You know, there's this way sometimes life is dealt with certain people in life that you have to deal with how life is.
That's the survival of the fittest.
The strongest survive in this world, you know.
And sometimes you can't help where you're born.
You can't help who you're born to, the place that you're born, the situation.
Sometimes people wake up in negativity.
And I always say, how can you be positive when every day you wake up, it's negative things, or you wake up in negativity around.
It's hard to be positive when you see that and you have a system that is built to keep you down.
You know, the system ain't built to keep you up and make everybody rich and go somewhere.
It's built to keep the rich, rich, and the poor, poor.
You know?
And if you have that mentality that you're going to stay down, then you're going to stay down.
I don't have that mentality.
You know.
If I'm down, I'm going to get back up every time.
You have to literally lean over me and shoot me in my head until you don't see no breath in me.
And even still, I'm still going to fight.
You got to kill me.
One to the head, two to the chest.
Kick me a little bit too to make sure I'm wiggle or wobble.
You understand me?
I'm tough.
When God made me, he made the best.
And this is how I am.
The strongest, the struggle.
If you ain't been through a struggle, you'll never survive in this world, no matter where you go.
You can place me anywhere in this world.
I'll survive.
I'm going to come out strong.
Derek, what do you feel hearing that?
It's a long night.
It's a long night.
You're going to have to keep banging him over, but you're not going to be able to.
It's a long fucking night.
I know he's a stubborn guy, but don't worry.
We'll slow him down.
I'm going to beat him up.
But in terms of the journey he's been on with his life, is there stuff in there that you look back at your own life and you can think, yeah.
Listen, he's been through a lot.
I think half of Alabama's been through a lot, you know.
That's not only, because when he's saying that, I mean, half of every black man out there was going through that in Alabama.
Do you understand?
So even to this day, they're going through that.
Yeah, it's been a lot.
I went through that a little bit, but I'm not as tough as he is, but I was over.
You grew up in Zimbabwe.
Yeah.
You were brought up by your grandparents until you moved to the UK when you were 16.
You then lived with your mother in Finchley.
So a little bit unconventional.
What did your upbringing teach you about life?
You know, yeah, talk about my upbringing, bro.
Why not?
Because I don't want to.
Why?
Why?
Don't want to.
You talk about boxing.
No, sure, but it's made you who you are.
Yeah.
But I just, that's me.
Yeah, I came here.
I lived in Hampstead.
What else is there to say?
I have no idea.
That's why I'm asking you.
I lived in Hampstead in a very prox neighborhood.
That's it.
So a comfortable life?
Very comfortable life.
Nothing when you look back, nothing to look back.
No adversity?
No, I enjoyed everything part of it.
Really?
Yeah.
Made me who I am today.
You know?
Same as him.
If he didn't go through those struggles with his father, he won't be the same.
He won't be sitting there.
So I enjoyed every part of it.
You know, I enjoyed it.
Who are your idols in sport?
Myself.
Actually, I say that about...
No, no, I'm telling you, myself, because half of the people I know that have quit already by now, they're not as stubborn as me.
So I'm myself, because I motivate myself.
I wake up in the morning, I do what I need to do.
I respect myself.
So if I'm going to tell myself I have to run these miles, I'll run those miles because I respect myself.
And I motivate myself and I look up to myself.
Because I've seen, when I say boxing, I've seen firefighters come in, great fighters.
Some of them, you know, them, Danny Medium's microsport.
Yeah, yeah.
You're great fighters.
But after all, when it's all said and done, nothing.
You know, I turn over pro when they were fighting.
And I'm still fighting now because I'm very stubborn and I look up to myself and I like what I do every day.
Yeah, I enjoy it, man.
You don't understand.
I enjoy it.
Explain that to me.
I enjoy it.
I've been doing rehab for my hip for 10 weeks.
It's nearly killed me.
Yeah, I enjoy it.
The physio, the hydro, the thing, the yumping around on one leg.
It's torture for someone like me.
How do you discipline yourself in your 40s?
Why do you complain?
I don't need to complain because I'm training to fight a man when I'm getting paid to.
Do you understand?
I get paid to train.
I enjoy it.
I love it.
You know, I can't get enough of it.
I can't.
It's difficult to get enough of it.
I love it.
I'm on the gym every day.
A lot of people think, they look at your career and they think, yeah, you've lost 13 times, but actually, recently you're on a pretty rich vein of form, that you're improving like a fine wine.
I am that fine wine.
How do you feel about that?
I am that fine wine.
I'm not that borderline.
You're drinking self-worth with Ron's.
I love it.
Yeah, you know, I am that fine wine.
You know, yes, I'm on a good run.
That's the reason why I'm on a good run is because I gave myself to the Lord.
You know, born again, you know, I'm doing very well.
I respect everybody.
When did you do that?
I done now when I stopped drinking.
I've been sober now for eight years.
And you turn to God then?
Turn to God then.
Smoke cigars like yourself sometimes, half and puff.
Do you mean you miss the drinking or not?
I don't miss it at all.
Nothing.
I don't miss none of that.
What was it that made you just go, I'm done?
It was a fight in Monaco.
I lost to Cabael.
But I was happy.
You know, when you look at something, you look at it and like, you know what?
Was I meant to lose that fight?
And at that second, I was like, you know what?
Maybe this will show me a new light.
I came back here in London.
I had a massive fire and then they killed somebody.
Went to court, you know, did some stuff and then came out.
And then my mom goes, is this how you want to be remembered?
I'm like, what do you mean?
Because she bought a book out for me.
Like, all the fines I've paid, people have paid money and it's calculated.
I'm like, wow.
Really?
Yeah.
It's because something has to change some because you're just making money and giving money away because you're beating and having fights with people and you have to pay fines.
And in that day, I just, that was it.
I just, it was the end of the year.
Had my last hurrah drinking, you know, and then that was it.
Born again.
Don't drink alcohol eight years now.
That takes great self-discipline.
Yes, you have to be disciplined.
At the same time, I will not quit.
I will not, I didn't want to retire from boxing when people were telling me it's time for you to retire.
And I said, no, I'm going to carry on.
People are like, why?
Why?
I'm like, why should I not?
Because you got a weak heart and a weak mind, so I should leave boxing because you can't do what I do now.
Yeah, so why carried on?
You're agreeing with that, Deontay?
Most definitely.
I mean, you don't know what it is or what a fighter have to go through.
Like I keep saying, a warrior, when they're a warrior, I have a warrior mentality.
It's just different.
You know, you casual people, you know, you look at something and in boxing, sending your seats, whether you're in the stands or where you're close up and you see certain things and you don't know what it is to be in the ring because you've never been in a fight in your life, in your life, you know, or ever have to fight for your life.
And then when you see the outcome, people, oh, you should quit, you should give up.
This is this, is that, you know, who are you to judge?
You know?
I'm not speaking to you.
I'm speaking to all that have looked at a fighter and tell them they should quit or whatever the case may be.
You know, they don't know what it takes.
We don't come on nobody else's job and tell them you're not doing a good job.
You ain't good at what you do.
Actually, people say that about me all the time.
Really?
That's okay.
I don't mind.
You know, they don't do this.
They don't put the hours in.
They don't put the time.
So like you said, the trainers say it take 10,000 hours to establish something and be great at it.
Nobody put the hours in, the early morning runs, you know, to beat your body up, you know, to go and get physio done to your body and then to do it all over again the next day, you know, repeat over and over and over again.
The Strength of a Strong Mind00:10:49
Nobody knows what's that take, but it's quick to say, oh, you need to give up, you need to quit because you had a bad night or whatever.
You know, that's why you got to have a strong mind within yourself.
Do you ever get like...
I don't know if you put yourself in this position, but do you ever go out and some big blump wants to come and fight you?
I never had it happen.
Really?
You know, thank God.
I'm a different man in the street.
Lennox told me that when he used to go out in New York, he used to go up to Harlem and places and the biggest guy in the club would come and try it on.
I said to him, well, what happened?
He went, he said, dude, what do you think happened?
I was a heavyweight champion of the world.
It's different with me.
My energy don't possess that.
When I go places, I come with love.
My energies come with love, you know.
Oh, bro, leave the love alone.
Please, please.
But it's true.
Leave the love alone, bro.
It's true.
It's true.
Now, as a fighter, if you go into an establishment and you bring that up in here and you bring in that, people are going to react to it.
At least for me, my experience.
I don't know how it is with anybody else.
But when I come, the energy that I display is what carries throughout.
You know, I've been around some of the most toughest, some of the hardest gang leaders and stuff.
And when I come in, because of how my energy is, it reciprocates from other people.
So they come and they see me hugging and hugging on guys.
You know what I'm saying?
I love you, bro.
The whole atmosphere is like that.
I've never been in an establishment full of men or whatever.
Or you can be a mixture of men and women where I had to come out there and had to fight anyone or whatever.
It's always been the opposite.
They have always wanted to protect me or they invite me over to the table.
That's even in any country.
He's not having any of this.
His life could be different than mine.
I'm just telling you my story.
I get it.
I get it.
I respect it.
Why are you laughing at this?
No, I'm not laughing.
I'm just in myself.
What's funny?
It's too much love.
Yeah.
I hope you don't bring that love to the room.
They say love hurts.
I'm still going to whoop you because I love you.
You know what I mean?
I'm still going to whoop you because I love you.
Derry, do you get into trouble when you're out or do people try and get you into trouble?
No, no, no.
I don't get into trouble.
I make trouble.
Right.
I go out looking for violence.
Have you had people try it on with you?
Yeah.
What happens?
I'm going to come out of my car and tell them what time it is.
Really?
Yeah.
I ain't got time for that.
Do you actually fight people if they try it on with you?
Yeah.
How often does that happen?
If any time, I'll beat somebody else for school.
Even in shooting, it's different.
Because back home, we pop the trunk.
If you can't fight, you're going to pop the trunk.
And it's a different thing.
Yeah, but it's a pro-American.
They're cutting the confidence.
You can't do all that.
They have to bring guns out.
But in London, we like to scrap.
Really?
Yeah.
You still do that?
Man, I love a scrap.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, you'll go out and just get screwed.
I will go out looking for a scrap.
No, you're not winding me up.
I swear to God.
Really?
You don't understand.
But aren't these like considered dangerous weapons?
I will go out looking for a scrap because I want one.
And do people try because they want to talk about it?
Because they don't.
It's just madness.
I don't know why.
You're just a natural fighter.
I just like to scrap.
Yeah.
I tell you what, one day I was having lunch with my wife, and then a group of guys came.
Son of a scot up.
I'm ready to swing.
Why?
My wife goes to me.
They fans.
They want photos.
Why did you want to attack them?
Because I like to swing.
Yeah, but they're perfectly innocent people.
I don't give a fuck.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, should I be getting worried?
If you talk shit, yeah, you might get something.
I don't know what I'm joking about.
I like.
No, I'm being honest.
You can't hear that threat on camera.
Go on the swing.
I like to swing.
I go out by myself.
I don't have any entourage.
Anybodygars?
Nobody.
Just you.
I just came today by train.
Train was packed.
I had two seats because I like to swing.
My bag was on the seat.
You're like, I'm like, no.
You can stand up.
Give a fuck.
But if an old lady comes, I'll give her the seat.
I like to swing.
What do you think about this country now?
Whoa, you smart.
I listen.
What do you really think?
What do I really think?
Do you want my honest opinion?
Yes, I do.
You really want my own.
Uncensored.
You're uncensored.
I believe they're trying to defy dividers by saying there's too many Muslims and they're taking over, but really and truly it's not.
It's just only the Christians lost their ways.
Every problem they always have, there's, oh, there's a problem with Muslims, but there's no problems.
The problem is for the government.
Do you understand?
The only person I hate running in the government is London Mayor.
Because right now, in roads I drive at 30 miles an hour, I have to drive him at five miles an hour because he's changing the.
But it is what it is.
Do you understand?
But they're just trying to divide us, that's all.
A lot of Americans do have this weird impression of Britain that we are literally overrun by Muslims.
I'm like, have you come to this country?
I mean, I walk around, I'm not overrun by anyone.
Exactly.
You know, so we don't know, but it's the TV.
You know what?
Politics in this country, okay.
You know, okay, we'll get my boy in soon.
John, so you've not been here, I think, for 13 years to the UK.
All right.
I mean, I've been back and forth.
You know, I come over.
You haven't fought here since.
I haven't fought here since 2013.
Yeah, but I've been back and forth.
What do you think of this country?
I mean, they show me love and I show love back.
And that's just how I roll.
You know, you show me respect, I'm going to show you respect.
Your energy, how you come with me, I'm going to give it the same way back, you know.
And that's just how it is, you know.
And my brothers will tell you that.
You know, I got a lot of brothers here when we come here.
You might get a bit of a hostile reaction in the O2 on Saturday.
Only because you're fighting a Brit.
Hey, that's understandable, but it's going to be the same.
I got a lot of fans here as well.
I'm going to have a lot of people against me, but I'm going to have a lot of people with me as well.
That's going to be here.
I got a lot of people coming from America coming over as well.
It's going to be a good fight, for sure.
What's your view of your president?
What's that?
What's your view of your president, Trump?
You know, I don't get into politics at all.
I get into politics.
I don't get into all that stuff.
The world is what it is, and as the people, we can make it better.
You know, we are the people.
Without us, nothing is possible.
If we come together and we make commands and demands of things, we can start.
We control a lot of things, you know.
But a lot of people live in fear.
And when you live in fear, you're always going to be controlled.
So that's my thought on that.
He keeps laughing.
Because they want us to sell the fight.
Which is like we're on fucking Jones and Coggs fucking shoulders.
Like we have to talk about fucking problems in politics.
They say, sell the fight.
Well, God, then.
How did we say that?
Well, God, then.
Maybe we'll beat the shit out of you.
Maybe bring tits and fight.
Maybe you can try.
Definitely try.
I mean, like, well, how the fuck do we sell the fight?
But why don't we suggest this?
Tyson Fury's predicted that Directors is going to knock you out.
Hey, he's 100% right.
Tell him to put his money on him.
Put his money where his mouth is.
You know, that's what anybody else, they have an opinion.
Is there any chance this guy knocks you out?
It's a possibility.
All things can happen.
But I don't see it that way.
You know, a heel wilder is a dangerous wilder.
I'm backing them better, baby.
You understand me?
The way I move, the way I talk, the way I feel is different.
When you at the bottom, ain't nobody down there.
And there's only one place to go.
It's back to the top.
When you climb, you know, God has been good to me.
And I always say, Jesus Christ, son of God, come into me.
And when I allow the Holy Ghost to come into me, I have no fear.
No fear lives around me or in me.
So when I come into that arena, I'm not afraid.
I'm not scared of nothing.
I don't care who's coming.
I don't care about Derek coming.
I want him to come.
I want all the pressure that he's going to bring.
I want all the power, all the overhand rights, all the awkwardness that he's going to bring.
That's what's going to make a great fight.
Where do you think he's weak?
In the ring.
Why would I tell him here?
So he can go work on his weakness.
He hasn't got much time.
He's only got five days.
You know, we got 24.
You still got 24 hours in a day.
That's enough time for anything, you know.
We have enough time to do a lot of things.
It's just like when we say we're old.
You ain't old.
You're getting older.
We have enough time to do a lot of things in this world.
We have enough time to change the world.
You know what I'm saying?
So if you have a mindset you don't have enough time, then, you know, it's over with.
Derek, life can throw like weird random curveballs at any moment, right?
I'm thinking of Anthony Joshua and the terrible crash that he had that his two great friends died in.
I'm thinking of Tiger Woods a few days ago.
Tiger Woods, that's his own problem, right?
Yeah, no, of course, listen, I'm not sure.
Without kind of money, you get a driver and you're going to go out drinking.
Of course.
And everyone can be judgmental about it in any way.
My point being, you never know when you can't control perhaps your potential for a curveball.
But you never know in life, right?
Yeah.
Anything can happen.
As you've got a bit older, as you've hit your 40s, as you're contemplating retirement, what do you feel about what you want to achieve with your life?
Mate, my biggest achievement I want to do, I want to walk my kids down that aisle.
That is the best thing ever.
How many of you have?
I've got three.
I've got two girls and a boy.
I want to walk my kids down the aisle as a dad and give the dad speech a shitty one, but a good one for me.
I would actually pay good money to hear you do it, Father of the Brothers.
I want to do that.
I want to get that with my girls, you know, so I can hang out with my grandkids, you know.
You know, because that's what I want to achieve, you know, raise my kids to be better people in life.
And anything else is just a bonus.
And if your son wanted to be a boxer, what would you feel?
I would be like, yes.
Walking Kids Down the Aisle00:08:28
Really?
Yeah.
Even with all the relative.
That's just boxing.
Boxing is full of scumbags.
That's why we love the sport.
Because everybody in there is a scumbag, even him, you see next to me.
Yeah, this is why we love it.
We love the dodginess of it, everything about it.
You know the weird thing is, I've interviewed a lot of boxers.
You're not, I mean, compared to Hollywood, you're not even at first base of scumbags.
There's an honesty about boxers, which I really like.
No, no, but behind the scenes, there's something.
Of course, a lot of skilled duggery.
But actual boxers themselves, when I compare you to, say, movie stars, right?
There's an honesty about what you guys do.
Oh, yeah, because end of the day, we just want to win.
And when we win, it's all hugs and kisses.
Wow.
John Taylor, you...
You shall love awake for me right now.
I'm not going to win the fight right there.
Love.
Look at me.
Look at me trying to sell pay-per-view.
Get the fucking love away from me.
Fuck it up, bro.
What the fuck did you say?
Let me tell you what.
I think the idea of you getting me in the ring and pacing me will be what sells my face.
Deontay, you've got seven children, like you said.
Yeah, ma'am.
One is your daughter, Nia, I think is how she's Naia.
Who was born with spina bifida, which is obviously a very serious condition.
What impact does that have on your life and your feelings as a father?
It had a strong impact on my life because I chose to keep her.
Her mother didn't.
You know, her mother, her mother tried to set me up, you know, to have the baby.
You know, she ejected my sperm and her and ran in the bathroom and locked the door, and that's how we had her.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, truth be told, she don't even know I know this.
Wow.
But I'm telling it on to the world.
How do you know that?
I'm smart.
You know, when we was having sex, you know, I used to, when I came, I used to come on her stomach.
You know, I used to fold my towel nicely by the bed because I would want to wipe it off for her stomach.
This particular time, she chose that she wanted to have a baby by me because I was the best thing that ever came into her life.
Most of her relationships only last for two months or whatever because she was a promiscuous woman.
I didn't know it at the time.
I only found out this thing by reading her journal.
She didn't know that I read her journal either.
You know, so during that time, I did what I do.
I had a good nut and I nut it on her stomach.
This time I went and got the towel and tried to wipe it off.
She hit my hand so hard, I thought she hit my hand like a home run, like a baseball player do a baseball bat.
But she screamed, no, as if she was being raped.
She got up so quickly and ran into the bathroom and locked the door.
Two weeks later, she liked to go clubbing and drinking with her girls and stuff.
Okay, cool.
But this particular moment in time, she knew she was pregnant.
So she was pregnant with my daughter, but she didn't do all the right things to, you know, take her prenatal vitamins and things, the nutrients and the minerals that needed for my daughter to stay healthy.
You know, she just was worried about this child having my child.
But my child ended up with spina bifida.
So going into the doctor's office, we had an opportunity to terminate the pregnancy, but it's just something in my heart.
I just want to, I just felt like she deserved to live.
I wanted to take up on this opportunity of taking care of a girl that was born with spina bifida, a child that's in need.
She needed me as I needed her.
Her mother had no remorse, had no feelings about it, because she didn't even think I was going to make the decision that I made.
We were still in college.
So she probably thought that I was going to terminate the pregnancy so she can attempt to trap me again.
You understand me?
So when I dedicated myself to having my child, that was it.
You know, that was my whole life.
That was everything.
You know, so from that point, I knew I couldn't go to school to be a professional athlete or anything like that.
I had to dedicate everything to my daughter.
I knew that school wasn't the option for me to be a professional, but I was in the school of hard knocks.
I never looked for trouble, but trouble always came my way.
So I've always had to handle myself street-wise, no matter what.
You know, there's so many stories about me that I forgot that it even happened.
And people have to remind me sometimes, and I don't even remember.
That's how many wars I've been in since a boy.
So when I hear about certain things, I keep my mouth closed because sometimes I have a fade memory of certain things.
I've done so much.
I'd have been in so many fights.
I don't even want to bring it up.
Sometimes it gets you PTSD.
That's why I say when I come from how I was raised and stuff, like although I was raised on a good family, but that don't mean, you know, that the devil is not here to intervene upon your father's prayers, upon your mother's prayers or your grandma's prayers, because the devil is listening too.
And he's going to come in and disturb as well.
So I had many people to try to come and try to harm you.
Where does your daughter live now?
She lived with me.
And has done ever since.
Oh, most definitely.
And her life has been better ever since we've come to her.
And do you have any contact with the mother or?
Never.
I blocked her.
I don't want contact.
Does your daughter?
Does your daughter ever see her?
I have three dadbeat mothers on my hand.
You know, I had a vision I would have all my children, and God is so beautiful.
He's so great.
You understand me?
I don't go and bash the mothers, though.
I don't go and do that.
I don't use my platform or certain things to say this and say that I let life does what it's going to do.
You know what I mean?
I'm a beautiful father.
You understand me?
I love my children to death.
When a father, when you have a father's love in the household, the success rate is through the roof, through the sky.
You know, I've been through all that where they didn't want me to see my kids, where I had to take the milk and the pampas and knock on the...
It's there and try to make me a dadbeat, but that wasn't in me.
I can't be, you know what I mean?
I love my children too much to let them live in this world without a father.
I've been through all that.
So I always promote fathers, take care of your children.
When you hear Derek talking about a dream of walking his daughters down the aisle, do you think that will ever be possible with almost ever.
The doctor said she would never be able to walk or never have a natural childhood ability or learning.
But if God has something for you, then it ain't nothing that nobody can say.
He is the doctor in the sick room.
He is the best friend behind the bed.
He is all things.
So now, you know, my daughter's 21.
She just got her license.
She's about to have a job as well.
She got her own home.
You know what I mean?
What more to say?
It's a beautiful thing.
It's a great story.
It's a beautiful thing.
You know, one day this story will, you know, be told and the movie probably will be presented as well.
You know, how a father loved for a spina bifurta girl and what he did to risk his life to save her life come to pass.
You know, been many narratives painted of me, put up on me, you know what I mean?
And for what reason?
I don't know why.
You know, because people use a perspective of what they may see on TV or certain things.
And oh, he is maybe the color of my skin.
You know what I mean?
They may already project certain things up on me.
But I don't put every fire that's trying to be built of me.
My silence is golden.
And that's what I use.
I got a big platform that I could use and go and do, but that's just not of me.
I don't do those things.
I'm not knocking those that use it because I say, yo, defend yourself.
But my silence is golden.
I think it's an amazing story.
I didn't know the half of that.
I didn't not expect that.
I got three dadbe mothers on my hand.
But I only say, why are you doing the children like this?
Because I'm no longer in your life and the life is not like it used to be.
But don't prosecute my child.
Don't allow them to sit around and have to be in between of these things.
Even with my ex-wife, that's my best friend.
My ex-wife is my best friend.
You know, because co-parenting is a relationship and we know how to do that very well.
And we teach the other kids how to do that.
Even with my girlfriend, we all go to trips.
We all hang out together.
We all do things together and stuff like that because we understand the objective.
Peeling Back Layers Before War00:04:37
And that's to make sure these kids.
I have an idea for you.
Get out of boxing and go and do a reality show.
The wildest.
Maybe we can get those seven more.
I have 14 of them.
Our producers.
The wildest.
Well, there's nonsense in series.
Yeah, man.
Derek, I know what you're thinking.
You want to sell your fight, I'm telling you.
Let me just tell you something.
This is actually a very cool way to sell your fight.
You know why?
Because it's revealing stuff about your personalities which people didn't really realize.
You know, this is what I say to you.
This game is full of scumbags.
Yeah.
Because I got scumbags on this side here.
Yeah.
Sending me messages.
I'm like, spice it up.
I'm like, what's that spicy up?
You know, this bunch of scumbags.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
So when you're dealing with scumbags, it's quite difficult.
Because I think this has been a great interview with you guys.
Do you think so?
Yeah.
And you're going to do 20 other media appearances where you'll just tick the boxes of saying shit to sell your show.
All right.
Whereas I think I'll be honest with you.
I think I peel back layers about you.
But I can't do that shit to talk about.
What I'm just saying to people is don't sit down.
The fight's going to be amazing.
Yeah, there's no like, oh, I have to strangle him.
Oh, this, I can't.
But the fight is going to be an amazing fight.
The way we've trained for this fight is unbelievable.
For me, well, give me a prediction.
Okay.
Do you think I want to get knocked out in my own hometown in front of 18,000 people?
No, but I don't think he does either.
Exactly.
So what do you think is going to happen then?
I think the war and the bronze bomber are going to probably tear it up.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then plus, they're going to overhype it to me.
And to make it more sweet enough, yeah.
And this guy don't go to any shows.
Yeah.
This guy, he never goes to any show, but he's coming.
Who?
He's Anthony coming.
Anthony said he's coming.
Don't judge him.
Yeah, he don't go to no shows.
But if he says he's coming, now you have to like, you know, turn.
Who does he think is going to win?
I don't know.
I mean, people know this is going to be an amazing fight.
This is going to be a war.
You understand me?
We train day in and day out to prepare our body mentally and physically, emotionally, for one night, one fight.
You know, and you got to be a fool to think I'm coming all the way from America not to come and show up and show out.
You got to be a fool to think that he's in his own time.
He's not going to come and be the best that he's ever had.
Like I said, the Hill Wild is one of the best wildest ever.
You know, before three or four years, I was getting myself back together.
You know, I was convincing myself that I'll be okay.
But I didn't have enough time.
It wasn't enough time to get myself together.
But now, it's over.
And if you do win, what's your message?
When I win.
When I win.
At the conclusion of your fight.
When I win.
At the conclusion of your fight, what would your message be to Tyson Fury if he's watching that?
I mean, it ain't just to him, it's the whole heavyweight divisions.
I'm going to put them back on notice to let them know I'm here.
They're going to call me Mr. Clean because I'm here to clean up the whole division.
Look how boring it is now.
I brought boxing back single-handedly.
You know, of course, I had some bodies I needed to lay down and get things back going.
But here I am, yet again, to do it all over again.
And what great opponent to have in front of me, Derek Warchasora.
And I can't wait because I can't wait for this war.
There's a lot of wars going on, but it's going to win April the 4th at the O2 Arena, baby.
You don't want to be late and you don't want to miss this one.
You don't want to miss it.
Derek?
Yeah.
And I'm going to put my stamp on that one.
Derek, what's your final rallying cry to the nation?
Or to the world?
To the world.
Yeah.
Give them what they want.
Sell it, baby.
I can't flip this table, can I?
I can't.
Listen.
Tune in.
It's going to be amazing.
It's going to be great.
May the best man win.
It's been great meeting you both.
Thank you.
And talking to you properly.
Thank you.
You don't have to throw things around to make points.
That's come back up there.
The bold guy wants that.
Of course.
He wants you to start whacking each other.
The one with the crong t-shirt on.
It's on the zone on Saturday night.
I will be tuning in.
Don't you want to come?
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No.
Because I like you both too much.
I don't want to see one of you lose.
Oh, go, by the way, because it's too long for you because you've got a new hip.
That's what.
Actually, that's actually not far off.
Guys, thank you both very much for your time.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I'm having dinner with Simon Jordan tomorrow.
I'll send you your best.
Yeah.
Oh, that guy.
Who pays?
Who pays?
I should bet I will be.
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