‘He Knew Last Show Would Kill Him’ Ozzy Osbourne’s Final Moments | Sharon Osbourne Interview
Sharon Osbourne speaks to Piers Morgan in an exclusive sit-down interview - the first since her beloved husband Ozzy Osbourne passed away five months ago. In this emotionally raw and in-depth discussion, Sharon shares the rock legend's final moments - and explains how doctors warned him his last show would be too much for his health to handle. She also talks about receiving messages of condolence from King Charles and President Trump, her daughter Kelly being trolled online over her appearance, Roger Waters’ comments about Ozzy and whether she thinks she’ll ever marry again. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Masa Chips: Ready to give MASA or Vandy a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://masachips.com/PIERS and using code PIERS. Oxford Natural: To watch their full stories, scan the QR code on your screen or visit https://oxfordnatural.com/piers/ to get 70% off your first order when you use code PIERS. ExpressVPN: Right now you can get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Just scan the QR code on the screen, or go to https://ExpressVPN.com/PIERS and get four extra months for free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Painful Final Show00:15:29
The main doctor said to him, if you do this show, that's it.
You're not going to get through it.
So he knew that if you went ahead with the show, it would probably kill him.
I don't know how you feel given how painful it's been to lose him.
See, you've started me off now.
He didn't want to die on stage.
He didn't.
But he did it his way.
It was like I was in a dream.
I was looking down on it all.
My kids could see and feel how much their father was loved.
It was just like overwhelmingly warm going back to your hometown where you're really loved.
His Majesty sent me a letter the next day.
King Charles.
King Charles.
He got Aussie.
They need to create new words for it, the feeling of loss.
Grief is now become my friend.
Aussie Osborne meant many things to many millions of people.
He was a music legend, a cultural icon, a reality television pioneer.
For those who knew him best, he was something more important altogether.
A loving father, a dearly cherished husband, without whom life will never be the same again.
In the first interview since Aussie passed away, Sharon Osborne joins me in the studio now.
Sharon, it's great to see you.
Good to see you.
It's sad to see you.
It's poignant to see you.
It's everything at once.
I haven't seen you since Aussie died.
And I just can't, I can't really imagine you without Aussie.
In all the time I've known you, you were Sharon and Aussie.
How are you coping?
Ish.
Everything in my life now is like ish-ish.
It's okay.
It's all right.
I'm okay-ish.
You know, that's it for now.
Do you feel like an umbilical cord has been removed from you?
Because you were so intertwined for so long.
For so long.
For so, so many years.
And just it's, it's really grief is now become my friend.
That's it.
See, you've started me off now.
You're going to start me off.
No, it's grief is a very weird thing.
You know, when you love someone that much and you're grieving for them, it's what I have to live with and I'll get used to it.
I will.
I have to.
You know, things move on.
Aussie was, I mean, I've said this to people.
I said it actually in the run-up to his last show, which was an amazing thing.
I mean, the sequence of events was so classic Aussie in many ways.
But I said to people, you know, of all the people I've met in public life in my life, Aussie Osborne was the funniest.
He was the funniest person.
He was a deeply flawed individual in so many ways.
It's so flawed.
But he was a magical individual in so many ways.
And he was just hilarious.
I mean, I first got to know you guys 20 years ago.
America's Got Talent.
Yeah.
When you came on the show and I first got to meet and know Aussie.
And I've met you a few times before, but not properly.
No.
Really get to know you.
And when we began to like work together for a few years, and we used to go out for dinner and Aussie would turn up somewhere in America, you know, wherever we were doing a show.
And we'd have these dinners or whatever it was, or just a chat in the dressing room.
He was just howlingly funny.
That's my lasting thing about Aussie.
It's so authentic.
Yes.
He never tried to be anything other than who he was.
Yeah.
Completely true to himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's talk about his last week because I actually had a text exchange with him.
I think we've got it actually.
Because it was poignant for me.
I was talking about the last show and I wished him all the very best.
And I said, Aussie, I just want to wish you all the very best for your final show tomorrow.
What an amazing moment it will be for you.
And so great that it will be back where it all started.
You've had an incredible career.
Go out with a bang.
Kind regards, Piers.
And he replied, Thank you, Piers, so much.
We're in Birmingham, getting ready to do my final gig tomorrow.
And that's that.
And when I read that later, after he died, it just felt so poignant to me that in a way, perhaps subconsciously, he hung in there for this grand finale, this great performer, for this grand finale.
And maybe in the back of his mind, he was thinking, I'm done.
That's it.
Did you feel that when you were with him?
Very much so because he'd been so ill this year, terribly, terribly ill.
And when we came to England and we were meeting with new doctors here, a new medical team for him, the main doctor said to him, if you do this show, that's it.
You're not going to get through it.
And we just sat there and he said, I'm doing it.
I want to do it and I'm doing it.
And he knew his body was failing him.
He was in so much pain, so much pain.
And I mean, you know, he had pneumonia three times this year.
He'd had sepsis.
Did he?
Yeah.
And that's what really, really destroyed him.
I mean, he was on these shots of antibiotics.
It used to take 20 minutes for the shot to go in, and he had that twice a day.
And it kills everything in you, the good, the bad, everything.
So much antibiotics.
And he just couldn't get over that.
He just couldn't.
How did he manage to get the strength for that final show?
Because it was brilliant to watch.
I mean, watching him in that throne, it was just, it was magic.
And I couldn't have thought of a more brilliant way for Aussie to bow out of live performing, surrounded by his mates, his family in the wings, tens of thousands of fans who come from all over the world.
A perfect show in many ways.
And the bow and the throne.
And how do he bowed?
He just wanted it so bad to say thank you to everyone.
And I think he honestly did know that he was done.
It was his time.
So he knew that if you went ahead with the show, it would probably kill him.
But he decided...
I'm doing it.
What a way to go.
And in a way, I mean, it was, wasn't it?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how you feel given how painful it's been to lose him, but when you look back at that show, do you feel it was the perfect way out for Aussie?
He was so happy, Piers, afterwards.
And he kept looking at the papers and he goes to me, I never knew so many people like me.
But that was the way he was.
I mean, he knew he was famous, but not to the amount that people loved him.
It's a whole different thing.
And he was just so happy, so, so happy.
And for two weeks, he was, you know, really, like every day was sunshine for him.
He was really, really happy.
Yeah.
So happy.
Happier than we'd seen him in seven years.
Really?
I love that.
Yeah.
Because it was an amazing outpouring of love.
It was unbelievable.
Around the world, though.
It was like an enormous thing.
I remember posting a picture on Instagram about it before the show.
And I was amazed by the reaction.
It just blew up.
And I suddenly realised, I sort of take it for granted because I knew him so well, but I took for granted how big Aussie was as a rock star, how famous he was.
But I think you're right.
I hadn't factored in how much people loved him.
And they really, really loved him.
And that day was like an outpouring of love for him, as it was when he died.
I mean, the scenes after he died were extraordinary.
It was unbelievable.
It was like when we drove into Birmingham, I mean, we were just like the whole family.
We were just like, oh, wow, look at this.
He was just, again, people loved him.
He made people happy.
And people knew he was authentic.
He wasn't pretending to be, you know, Mr. Big or, you know, I'm bigger than you.
He was genuinely happy for all his friends when his friends were successful.
And he just was happy with his place in life and he didn't want any more.
He didn't want any less, but he was really, really happy at what he'd done in his life.
Was he amazed he lasted as long as he did given the wild excess he'd put his body through?
Yeah.
I mean, to live to, what was he, 76?
76.
I mean, you could have got good odds in Vegas that Aussie Osborne would not make it to 76.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I, you know, I used to think to myself when we were going to, you know, we went everywhere, Piers, to try and get him fixed.
You know, it was like trick doctors that had different machines.
And, you know, I would do anything in the hope that something could help, but nothing could.
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But he, I would say to him, you know, we're blessed.
We are blessed to still be together at this point because of what you've done to your body.
Me?
What have I done?
You know, like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
You know, oh, you only smoked like 50 cigarettes a day for, you know, 50 years.
You know, drank the breweries dry.
But he did it his way.
And that's it.
What were your last conversations with him like?
He told me that he was having dreams the last week of his life.
Excuse me.
He was seeing people that he never knew and they were...
I said, well, what kind of people?
He goes, all different people.
And I just keep walking and walking and I'm seeing all these different people every night.
And I go back there and I'm looking at these people and they're looking at me and nobody's talking.
And he knew he was ready.
How extraordinary.
And they were really vivid dreams.
Really, really vivid dreams.
Night.
He well, the night before he passed, he you know, up and down to the bathroom all night and it was like 4, 30 and he said, wake up already, bloody awake.
He've woken me up and he said, kiss me.
And then he said, hug me tight.
Was that?
Was that the last?
He used to get up early and he would say, I've got to go down and work out.
And he went downstairs, worked out for 20 minutes and passed away.
He just had a heart attack.
Yeah, how did you find out?
How did you know?
Screaming in the house and I ran downstairs and there he was and they were trying to resuscitate him and I'm like, don't leave him, leave him, you can't, he's gone.
I knew instantly he's gone and they tried and tried and then they took him by helicopter to the hospital and they tried and it's like he's gone, just leave him.
What were you thinking?
Fear regrets, just I couldn't.
I couldn't function.
What were the regrets I should have, could have, would have, if only I'd have told him I loved him more, if only I'd have held him tighter.
But you always told him you loved him.
I did.
You always hugged him tight.
You had one of the great marriages I've ever seen in my life.
It was turbulent, it had his ups and downs, everybody knows that, but it was a great marriage show.
I mean, you knew each other from 1970.
Yeah, I mean incredible if you think about that.
55 years, even since you were a teenager.
Yeah, and he's just never not been there.
Do you think when he the night before said, hug me, do you think he knew that the end was very close?
Yeah, he knew.
He knew when he did the show that it was.
You know he um, I think he didn't want to die on stage, he didn't, but he knew that it was that close he did.
When he was hugging you that night before, what was he saying to you?
Oh, he just hugged me tighter tighter, you know, but he, he was having.
You know, when I go.
Do you think you'll ever get married?
I'm like fuck off joking, piss off questions like that.
You know, could you imagine ever marrying anybody else?
Never, oh my god.
No never ever ever ever, no.
In those two weeks, knowing that the show probably would take so much out of him that it would bring an end to his life, did you get the chance to really say the things that you wanted to say yes and no.
Celebrating His Joyous Return00:03:04
Yeah, I mean, I had the chance, but I didn't want to be a downer because he was on such a high.
He was on such a high right.
You wanted to celebrate him being alive.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was just such a joyous time for him and his life.
And I'm like, so good to see him laughing again.
And, you know, it was just great.
How important have your kids been to you?
Oh, my God.
Throughout this period.
Piers, it's...
I wouldn't have gone through.
I would have just gone with Aussie.
Would you?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
I've done everything I wanted to do.
You know, it's, but they've been, they've been, excuse me, unbelievably just magnificent with me, all three of them.
They're the reason, and their kids are the reason why.
You've got to hang in there.
Oh, I...
Years ago when I had one of my mental breakdowns, I went into a little facility to help with my head.
And there were two girls who they didn't know each other, but they were in there.
Each mother had committed suicide.
And I saw the state that these two young women were in and what it had done to their lives.
And I thought, I will never, ever, ever do that to my kids.
But here we are.
And he wanted to do an interview with you.
He goes, I never want to interview with anyone again unless I really like them.
And I said, well, you can do that.
He goes, I really want to talk to Piers.
Do you know what?
I would have loved it.
He used to send me random text.
I just reminded myself looking at the one earlier.
He sent me one, which I just loved it because it was from him.
Piers, I just want to let you know that I think your show is the best show ever.
I'm addicted to watching it.
It's all I'm watching now.
I love it.
Keep up the good work.
Much love and respect.
Aussie.
And I said, I'm so touched that you think this.
He said, it's the best show in town.
And I just thought, you know, and last year, here, I've got one here, 1st of January.
Hey, Piers, here's to a happy new year.
God bless you always.
Just randomly.
And I just, that was Aussie to me.
The randomness of his thoughts and communications and the stuff he'd do and the jokes he'd come out with and the way he lived his life.
A lot of it was random.
But underpinning it all, I always felt, was his unbelievably ferocious love for you.
Unpredictable Aussie Love00:03:17
And it may not have manifested itself always in the best way, but it was undeniable.
He just had this ferocious love for you, didn't he?
I mean, it was like you were basically as I did for him.
Yeah.
You know, and we were like two oddballs that connected.
Yeah.
Do you remember the first time you met him?
Oh, yeah.
Paint me the picture.
My dad was a manager at the time.
Yeah.
And Black Sabbath were just breaking.
There was this huge...
You've got to remember that in the 70s, the industry was so small.
And every manager in town knew that they were managed by this local guy in Birmingham.
And they were like primed to be stolen.
And they were playing at the marquee and my dad had a meeting with them the next day.
So we went down to the marquee to see them and it was like jam-packed.
You couldn't move and sweat was dripping down the walls.
And when they came on, I was like, oh my Lord, what is that?
What is that?
Because I'd been used to seeing a slick American artist, you know, that looked and smelt brilliant and whatever.
And here are these four guys like, what the hell?
And the music, I'm like, and then halfway through, you got it.
You got what they were all about.
And so the next day they came into the office and I was the receptionist.
And in those days, you had a...
Yeah, the little.
Yeah, with the plug-in.
Hilarious.
And they came in, they sat down on the floor.
I asked them if they wanted tea and whatever.
And then they went in to see my dad.
And afterwards, he goes, oh, we've definitely got them.
It's in the bag.
It's in the bag.
And my father's bodyguard and chauffeur collected them from their hotel, brought them to our office, and then took them back to their hotel.
And on the way back, they told him that they were terrified of my father.
And he said, I know somebody that you should meet.
And it was my father's day-to-day guy who did the day-to-day work in the office and the bodyguard.
And then the next day, they were the managers.
Really?
Yeah.
Hilarious.
Yeah.
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When did you first think that you and Aussie might be having a little romantic?
I was, I'd moved to America and, you know, the band was so huge by then by the time I'd moved, this is like 75, 76.
And they were always in LA recording, touring, whatever.
And the guitar player, Tony, and I would...
One of those things, oh, God, how are you?
What's going on?
Clubs and bars, you know, down the strip.
Yeah, yeah.
At the whiskey, the rainbow, all of those places.
And he would say, come to the show.
And I would go down to the show and, you know, talk to him after the show.
And I would always see Aussie.
And he was like, just had the best smile in the world.
That smile would be, it was hypnotizing.
And we would talk and he would make me laugh and I'd go home.
And then It was in 79 that they decided to come back because my dad's chauffeur and his day-to-day guy had taken all their money.
What they thought my father would do, they did.
Wow.
And so they were broke and they called me and said, can we come and see your dad?
Can he help us out?
And he did.
Did he?
And that was it, yeah.
And was that the moment when you and Aussie...
Well, we were...
I was working with them as a day-to-day person.
And so he was just so funny.
And I used to love his company because it was always an up, you know.
He was never one of these musicians that complains about everything and nothing's right and, you know, it's all your fault.
And he was never like that.
He was just fun the whole time.
When was the moment he asked you on a date or whatever it was?
That was in 1980.
We were in Shepperton studios and he was rehearsing to go out on his first solo tour.
And he was really excited.
He saw his little stage set that was all his and he had his bands there and it was again, you know, joyous.
Everybody was on a high and the album was doing good.
It had just been released and that was it.
What?
Well, we got together that night and then...
But how?
After all these years of being in each other's orbit, how did it suddenly become a romantic thing?
One of the guys from our office was in the room.
We were in Aussie's bedroom.
We were going over stuff and then he goes to the guy, fuck off, get out of here.
Oh, God, okay, I'll go, I'll go.
And that was it.
That was it.
But I thought, oh my God, he's married.
He's got two kids.
What the fuck have I done?
Because everybody knows you don't shit on your own doorstep.
And then I thought, the next day, he's never going to talk to me.
Because, you know, that's how it was.
You know, he was like, was right at the moment.
But today, you know.
And I thought, he's never going to talk to me.
I've ruined it.
I've f ⁇ ed it up.
And he was so happy to see me the next day.
And I'm like, really?
And that was it.
We were together from that day.
How difficult was it early on because he was married, because he had kids?
Very, very, very hard for him.
Very hard.
And I'd never had kids and I wasn't from a family where there were a lot of kids and I didn't really have friends with kids.
They were all young.
They weren't, you know, even married my mates.
So I was really like had no idea what it was that he was going through.
And then it's not until you have your own kids that you realize how this must have destroyed him.
And it really did.
It really, really did.
He went through some wild periods in that time.
You know, he was a big party guy.
We know all that.
How hard was that?
I mean, that Aussie was very different to the Aussie towards the end of his life.
So how hard was it to deal with him?
It seemed, I'd seen people, not people like that, but I'd seen my whole life was surrounded by alcoholics and addicts and whatever.
That was it, you know, the 70s.
And he was, it didn't face me.
It honestly didn't faze me at all.
Because I always say, when people say, how did Sharon?
I said, how did Aussie cope with Sharon?
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's like when people would say, oh my God, he gets very violent.
And I'm like, yeah.
It's only my dad.
You know, I'm so used to it.
I was so used to extreme behaviour that it just was like, okay.
Did that make it easier just generally when Aussie would fall off the rails, be it with booze or whatever or women or whatever, did it make it easier to know that you've been around a lot of mercurial people, especially performers.
They get hooked on adrenaline, life in the fast lane, the party stuff, the image, the brand, being a rock star.
Is it easier to navigate when you know what you've got?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And you've got to realize that I know it's a whole thing with a lot of women.
You know, if you go with somebody else, that's it.
It's over.
And we're all so different.
But it didn't faze me.
Not until it was, you know, a couple of times it was like, I don't like the fact you brought them to my house.
And it is my fucking house.
Navigating Rock Star Chaos00:12:20
I would go to him.
I furnished it.
That I didn't like.
But it never fazed me because I know what he's like.
And it means nothing.
Yeah.
Means nothing.
I think that's undeniable.
What meant everything to him in the world was you and the kids and the family and life.
Yeah.
When we talked earlier about the outpouring of love for him after he died, those scenes in Birmingham, I mean, I've not really seen anything like that since sort of Princess Diana died.
It was on such an enormous level.
Back at the city where it all began for him, back with his own people.
You looked at the time to be completely crushed by the enormity of losing him.
And my heart just broke for you seeing the pictures.
But how uplifting was it at the same time to feel those fans and the scale of it and the volume of people?
It was important.
I knew how much people loved him to a point.
But this was going back to your hometown where you're really loved.
Yeah.
And it was just, it was like I was in a dream.
I was just kind of like up here looking down on it all.
It was comforting.
I loved it because my kids could see and feel how much their father was loved.
Yeah.
And is.
How many messages did you get in total of any kind, do you think?
If you were to guess.
With everything that came through, because the city was so brilliant, every flower that was left at the bench, they brought me everything.
Every note, every condolence book.
It's got to be over 100,000.
Amazing.
From what they got and then from what we got in Los Angeles and here that were sent to the house.
I mean, it was just like overwhelmingly warm and it was like for me, you got him.
You got him.
You knew what he was like.
You said in your podcast that you do with your kids that Donald Trump sent you a message, a voicemail.
I think we've got a copy of that.
And he wrote me too.
I mean, just so and the kids.
Let's see if we have the...
Let's listen to it, yeah.
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Wanted to wish you the best and the family of great Ozzy was amazing.
He was an amazing guy.
I met him a few times and I want to tell you he was unique in every way and talented.
So I just wanted to wish you the best and it's a tough thing.
I know how close you were and whatever I can do.
Take care of yourself.
Say hello to the family.
Thanks, Buy.
He didn't have to call and leave a voicemail.
And he wrote to you as well.
Yeah.
He did.
Because you've known Trump a long time, as obviously I have too.
You've worked with him a bit actually over the years.
What did it mean to you that the President of the United States took the trouble to do that?
Just so much.
So, so much.
You've got no idea.
And then when I actually His Majesty sent me a letter the next day.
King Charles.
King Charles and delivered it.
Really?
What did he say?
Just how sorry he was.
He knew Ozzy.
He knew we'd met him several times and he's always been so gracious with Aussie and they would always laugh together and just, you know, he got Aussie.
He got him.
Would young Ozzy in his teens have thought if one day when he died, the President of the United States and the King of the United Kingdom would go out of their way to send messages.
And the Mexican parliament stood up and gave him applause and just, I mean, it was just worldwide and it was just makes you feel good.
It makes you feel good that they love the person you loved and they saw good in him.
Because, you know, people's perception is not reality.
And, you know, there are still some snooty English people that go, oh, that dreadful man.
You know, you're like, just, you know, when you look at King Charles and you look at Donald Trump, whatever anybody might think about them, it's their business.
But their days, you know how full their days are.
I mean, insanity.
And that they had the time and the graciousness to do that for Aussie.
Who else meant a lot to you in the way they reached out to you?
Oh, my God.
His peers, all his peers.
Just amazing.
Just amazing.
The other rock musicians.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they felt like they'd lost one of their great iconic figures.
I mean, I saw the tributes from all of them.
They really did have Aussie up on a pedestal with very few people.
I mean, he's on the Mount Rushmore of rock frontmen, really.
I think indisputably.
Because when he came along, he kind of just reinvented the wheel, which very few rock singers ever do.
They just saw the good in him and they saw his individuality and they were drawn to that.
It was unique.
There was never been anybody like Aussie.
So complex, but yet so sociable.
But he was a really complex person.
He was, but I also, like behind the scenes, like if I went to your house and we just were hanging out and stuff.
There was a real like warmth to Aussie.
He's just a warm guy.
He wanted you to have a good time.
He'd have, you know, he'd be very solicitous, ask about your own family, ask everyone else.
And he kind of had a, he had a wonderful kind of slightly bemused air about life and just all the crap going on.
You just imagine him throwing himself up at them, watching the news and exasperated by all this crazy stuff.
But there was a real warmth that underpinned Aussie Eiffel.
Always.
Always.
He was, I mean, he is the epitome of somebody that just doesn't care what you are, what religion you are, what, you know, where you come from in the world.
He would just be open and if you're, you know, he's nice and he expects that back.
And then if you didn't, he'd be, oh, see ya.
What would he have made of Roger Waters who reacted to Aussie's death in an interview with The Independent?
Ozzy Osborne, who just died, he said.
Bless him in his whatever state that he was in his whole life.
We'll never know.
Though he's all over the TV for hundreds of years with his idiocy and nonsense.
The music, I have no idea.
I couldn't give a fuck.
I don't care about Black Sabbath.
I never did.
I have no interest in biding the heads of chickens.
Whatever they do, I couldn't care less.
I mean, part of me thinks Aussie would find that hilarious and think, Roger Waters, you are a prick, which, by the way, he sat in that very chair.
Ooh, God.
He sat in that very, may not be in the exact chair, but he sat there.
He would get cracked.
And he was an unbelievable prick to interview.
So for him to take the high moral ground with anyone.
But what do you feel when you hear things like that?
From one of the big rock stars of chicken cheese.
But not legendary.
Not liked.
Has been today.
You know, that's the way it is.
You know, he was great, but his greatness didn't last.
He couldn't do any great music on his own.
He has been.
And very bitter.
I mean, he was very bitter when he was with me.
Oh, my God.
He's crazy, though.
He's definitely, definitely not wired right.
Five wives later and, you know, hates everybody that's successful and he's stomping around in his pathetic homemade Nazi outfit.
And, you know, he's just, he's nuts.
I was going to send him one of my Tiffany boxes and I will save it.
And for those who are not buffet with your Tiffany boxes, would you like to explain what they used to contain?
Oh, dear.
Well, I used to save it for the press, actually, because the rock press, usually at, say, a festival, you know, the rock press, they'd be pissed up at the bar and then they would go home and write a review of the show and they never watched any of it.
And there was this one guy that reviewed Aussie at some festival and said, you know, his blonde hair blowing in the wind and gave this worst review ever.
And I just sent him a Tiffany box, which everybody loves, and it was full of Jack's poo from his diaper and it's like, if you're gonna write a review, if you've seen it, God bless you.
You're entitled to your opinion, but Aussie never had blonde hair then at that point, so it's like you hadn't watched it pissed in a bar.
And then I began doing it to other people.
I disliked, but he.
But even that is a waste to send shit to him.
You know it's a waste because he's really insignificant.
But I just thought, with anybody that passes, that has a family, you don't do that.
Anybody else let you down in the way they reacted.
No no, he seemed to me a bit of an outlier, like I didn't see anything else nothing, nothing.
I mean the guy is.
I thought it was about me because he hates Jews and I'm half a Jew and it's like.
So he hates me because my dad was Jewish.
Well, my mother was a fucking Roman Catholic who gives a fuck right, but I think it was me.
Yeah, but he was.
He was one of those musicians there are very few musicians that come from money.
You can name them and he was well educated, middle class, you know, and they.
He's just always been a bit puncy, you know, don't?
You know who I am?
Oh, fuck off.
He fucking has been God.
It's good to have Sarah back on you, back on old firing cylinders, but the you know what?
The other guys David yeah, David Gilmore yeah, totally all those guys.
Remembering Through Diaries00:15:09
Well look, they've all fallen out with him too.
Oh yeah, no wonder, they fucking aimed him out.
Yeah, you know.
No no, they've got no time for it.
It's been five months now.
Tell me what your life is like now.
I mean what you're at the house here.
You've still got the place in LA.
It's a beautiful house.
It's it's like a museum to your life with Aussie in a way.
You know, it's the most beautifully decorated, as all your homes are always decorated so beautifully, but it's got so many things which are uniquely you and Aussie.
Have you thought about what you'll do, where you're going to live and your kids and grandkids live mainly in America?
Yeah, what are you going to do?
Have you worked it out yet?
No no, and it's like I. You know, each day I go.
What am I going to do with myself?
What the fuck am I going to do?
You know I, all I've been doing is going through Aussie's diaries and you know he keep.
He kept diaries, a journal every day really.
Yeah, oh my god, you're gonna publish it.
Some, maybe did he.
Did he want it out as a book?
He never he's done.
I've got over 2,000 drawings by Aussie.
Yeah, because he was incredibly artistic and creative.
I saw some of them.
Amazingly talented guy yeah, so many different ways.
God, the Aussie Osborne diaries.
I'm already salivating.
How long had he kept it for?
Oh wow, he went into rehab.
What year was it?
84 and that's where he got.
They told him, every day, you journal, journal and he kept it up.
He journaled, went back to drinking, but he was nearly 40 years.
Yeah, 40 years of Aussie Osborne diaries.
Yeah, that would be incredible.
Was he very honest in them?
Very, very Yeah, and I'd never ever read them.
And have you been reading them now?
Yeah.
What's it like?
Sad.
Is it?
Yeah.
Why?
Because he would put himself down a lot in his journaling.
Have you read things which surprised you about what he was saying about you?
No.
He would be pretty honest with eventually he would be pretty honest with me about situations and the way he acted or whatever.
And no.
But he that's sad.
Very sad.
And happy as well?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of situations.
Because he was always so appreciative of everything with his fans.
He was so appreciative of everything.
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There's a wonderful story that long before his death, Aussie asked you and the kids to bury him under a crabapple tree on the family estate where you are at the moment.
And you agreed.
It was to be a place where they could remember him.
He wrote in his 2010 autobiography, I Am Aussie, that he wanted to be buried there so the kids can make wine out of me and get pissed out of their heads.
And I think he is buried by the crabapple tree.
He is.
Have you made any Aussie wine yet?
No.
Do you think you will?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But yeah, he's buried under the tree.
Do you go down there all the time?
All the time.
All the time.
Every day?
Oh, yeah.
Every day.
Do you talk to him?
And the kids do exactly the same.
Ozzy's son, Louis, and, you know, Aussie's grandson, Elijah.
Everybody goes down there and has a chat with him.
Yeah.
Do you find that comforting?
So comforting.
So comforting.
You feel him there.
His presence.
Oh, God, yeah.
And they, you know, I still haven't...
I burn several candles in the house that have always replaced.
It's never without candles, guys, pictures, and just, yeah, he's in the house.
What would he want you to do with your life, do you think?
I don't know.
He'd want to be missed.
He is so terribly...
I mean, it's not even missed.
It's an ache that you wake up with and you can't get rid of that ache.
It's like a big hole inside of you.
And the kids feel exactly the same way.
And it's just, you know.
What do you do?
It's inevitable that it happens to all of us.
It would have been his 77th birthday on the 3rd of December, so just last week.
What did you do on that day?
I went to Birmingham.
The mayor had another award for Ozzy and I took the award and I went to see his exhibition at the museum and we walked around there and we went to the bench and I laid flowers and then we went for an Indian meal which Aussie would want us to do and so I saw Aussie's sisters and his brother and his nephew and Louis and we were all together.
He never I never really noticed an accent with Aussie despite all the time he was in America.
He basically was a Brummy from the day he was born to the day he died.
Oh my God, yes, so much so.
And he was proud of it.
You know, he's a working class guy and he had that working class mentality.
When he couldn't work for the last seven years, I mean he made two albums, but touring, he would say, this just isn't my, I have to keep working.
I can't not work.
I have to keep working.
And I'm like, why?
He goes, because that's what I do.
You know, I can't just sit here.
Do you feel that the same for yourself?
Yeah.
Because you've always worked all the time I've known you.
Since I was 15, I've worked.
So it's like, this is what we do.
What do you miss most about him, Cheryl?
His hand.
Holding his hair.
Yeah.
It's you can't put it into words.
They need to create new words for it, the feeling of loss.
You know, and the love of your life.
And you go into that room at night to sleep.
I never sleep.
I keep looking at my phone as he texts me.
You know, it's just hard.
But it will be hard.
And I know I will always feel the same.
When you love so deep, it never goes away.
They say that you just get used to it.
And that's why I say grief is my friend.
I think, I mean, I've been with people who've been through extreme grief at various stages of age and life.
And the whole thing of time is time is definitely a healer.
Things get less sharply horrible.
But I don't think you ever get over it.
It's like, I don't think you'll ever, you're not going to get over Aussie.
I won't get over him.
And I wasn't married to him in a sense that every time I hear his music or that's the thing, he's not like he's some guy we never knew.
Everywhere you go, you must occasionally, up comes his music on the radio or you see a picture or you, or something, or something.
There'll be a story in the papers about something that triggers the memory.
I mean, that's the other thing.
When you're married to an iconic figure like Ozzy Osborne, there are constant public memories which will come to you.
He's everywhere.
He's everywhere.
Does that help you or does it make it more difficult?
No, it just...
I look at pictures of him all day in my house.
There's things he brought back from every country in the world and different things he bought.
I've never seen so many artefacts from around the world in houses in my life than what you have in yours.
They're like museums.
They're in global museums.
It's incredible.
You take it for granted, but when you walk into an Osborne home, it is dazzling, the stuff you amassed.
Yeah, and it's like, you know, things.
And I...
He's everywhere, everywhere in the house.
You're going to have your first Christmas without him.
Yeah.
Do you have a plan?
You're going to be together?
I'm going to spend it with Kelly and my grandson and Kelly's partner.
Here in England?
In England.
And then on the 27th, I go to LA and I'll have it with Jack and the girls.
Have you spoken to Jack since he came out of the I'm the Celebrity Jungle?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did great.
He came over as Jack.
I mean, he's a great character.
He, you know, all of that about living outside and loving nature is all from Aussie.
When he was this big, Aussie and him would be outside in the garden in a tent.
Oh, we're going to be here for the week, you know.
And he just, all of that is from Aussie.
I mean, you're all natural reality TV stars.
Ever since you did the Osborne show, you were a family born to do this.
Because you're all such curial characters.
All of you.
What is that?
Where does that come from?
I think it just, we're people with very strong personalities.
Yes.
All of us.
And it just works.
You know, I remember I was talking on Fox in America the week after Aussie died.
And I suddenly remembered a story.
I said, if you want to know, I mean, one of the funniest times ever.
We were doing America's Got Talent.
I think we were somewhere like Dallas or Miami, something like that.
And we had dinner and Kelly came with her then boyfriend.
And after about half an hour of the five of us having dinner, she suddenly said, we're just f ⁇ ing bored with this.
You went, bored?
We're leaving.
And they got up and left.
And you and Aussie were like, bored of us?
Bored?
And then they went around the, we hadn't seen him.
They walked around outside.
It was snowing.
And the next thing they tapped on the window and they both dropped their trousers and did a moonie.
Do you remember this?
Of course.
Through the French windows.
And you and Naus, for a moment, you were outraged.
That's disgusting.
And then I had to remind you, you're Aussie and Sharon Osborne.
This is the natural consequence of your union.
And it was, it was hilarious.
And then you both fell about laughing.
And I remember we had such a funny time after that in that dinner.
We did.
Just laughing.
Laughing, laughing, laughing.
My time with Aussie was 90% laughing.
You know, I loved his music.
I loved everything about that side of him.
But when I think about him, I just think about him making me laugh.
Or laughing, as we'd said, or whatever it was.
He was a man who loved to laugh.
God, did he ever.
And he had the best laugh.
He did.
It was so infectious.
Wasn't it?
It was hilarious.
Yeah.
No matter.
And, you know, it's like when people go, oh, I didn't like his music.
But he was more than that.
You know, his personality, he was a trailblazer, you know.
Yeah, I was thinking of the legacy, if you like, the bloodline.
Because Kelly had posted something online on Instagram.
And then she got attacked.
This has all happened in the last 24 hours.
She got attacked by people for the way she looked.
They thought she was too skinny and this and this.
And like a classic Osbourne, she went straight on the attack.
Let's take a look.
No, what did you do?
I don't even know how to say this.
So I'm just going to say it.
To the people who keep thinking that they're being funny and mean by writing comments like, are you ill?
Or get off Ozympic or you don't look right.
My dad just died.
And I'm doing the best that I can.
And the only thing I have to live for right now is my family.
And I choose to share my content with you and share the happy side of my life, not the miserable side of my life.
So to all those people...
Fuck off.
That is an oddball.
Yeah.
What do you feel like when you hear that?
I just, it's just, she's right.
You know, she's right.
And if she's happy, that she can't eat, well, she's not happy because she's lost her daddy, but she can't eat right now.
She doesn't.
What do you think about people who just troll Kelly or whoever it may be who's going through obviously unbearable grief?
Sharing Only Happy Moments00:07:57
Can't eat, loses weight and then has to put up with that because of social media.
You know, 25 years ago, that wouldn't be, it wouldn't be possible.
But now it's, you know, you've had it yourself, right, in the last few years.
Yeah, all the time.
It's like, it's, you know, it's a shield for people that are unhappy.
It's a shield.
And jealousy and people's perception of somebody else.
How many times have we been wrong about somebody, you know, because of our perception?
You know, and we haven't even met them and we go, oh, so whatever, and they actually turn out to be great people.
We do it, but you and I don't take the point where we'd spend a second, wasting a second of our lives in writing something about them.
You know, going on their site, taking the time, writing.
It's like, that's a lot of effort goes into that.
And I just feel sorry for people.
You know, there's something wrong with their lives.
They're not happy.
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What are you going to do with yourself work-wise?
Because I can't imagine you not working.
You're a brilliant performer yourself.
Do you have a plan?
Do you have something you want to do?
The thing that I'm doing now is working on Aussie's movie.
We have a deal and we're looking for people to work on the movie now and that's my main thing.
Do you have an idea of who you want to play on?
Yes.
Can you share it?
Not yet.
Are you still watching?
Can help me get over the line.
Yeah.
But is it someone that you feel could capture the real Aussie?
Yeah.
And I just.
Young blood?
Well, no denial.
I'm not saying a word.
It's...
That's my main thing right now is doing that.
And then, you know, just...
I don't know.
Things happen, don't they?
You open a door and suddenly your life has changed and there might be something in the future.
I don't know.
But I know I'm not, I'm not, I can't just sit at home and sit in my garden all day.
No, you can't.
You can't.
I have a lot of ideas for you, John.
We've worked together a lot over the years and I have a lot of ideas.
I think you're showing signs to me that you're beginning to get your strength back after what has been probably utterly horrific five months.
Do you know I lost after Aussie five days later, one of my oldest dogs died and then Elvis died two weeks after Aussie.
It was just unbelievable.
Like.
But it teaches you don't waste any time.
People waste so much of their time.
And energy.
Stuff that just doesn't matter.
No.
You know, I've lost a couple of really good friends in the last year.
Young, you know, 57, 58, 61, old village mates who just, you know, one got an awful brain cancer, one dropped dead on a golf course.
They're very different ways to die, but they were, you know, so young comparatively.
And you just think, you do, it's an old cliche.
You get one go at this.
You know, a month.
One go around.
And when I think about Aussie, I think, my God, he packed it in.
I mean, talk about not dying with regrets.
I mean, that's why I loved...
We started like this, and I'd like to end it because I just feel the end of Aussie's life, if he could have scripted it and could have chosen the way he would like to bow up, it would surely be with that concept on the throne with his mates, his family, his people in front of him, his real die-hard fans.
And then to have two weeks of feeling great and to have that last hug with you and then to, I mean, the irony of Aussie dying, going to the gym would have amused him.
I told him it was bad for him.
How is someone hate?
Put so much effort into it.
It's bad.
I could imagine him now saying, Sharon, I told you the gym would kill me.
It wouldn't be the booze.
It wouldn't be the drugs.
It'd be the bloody gym.
I'll miss him a lot, Aussie.
I already do.
And I can't even imagine the level that you miss him.
He had so much respect for you.
Well, we just had a great...
I think we just really, we were very unlikely mates, actually, because we came from very different backgrounds.
But I just immediately felt an affinity with Aussie.
I mean, do you remember the first time we had dinner with America's Got Talent?
And it was Aussie that got us back talking.
When I said something that annoyed you, you went berserk, got up, tried to throttle me, got pulled off by Jerry Springer.
Jerry Springer pulled me off.
Jerry Springer, who was the host of the show, pulled you off.
And the NBC execs were like, what the is happening here?
And you stormed off.
And then all I remember is I went to bed and about two in the morning I get a phone call and it was you saying, Aussie says I should call you and say sorry.
And he was right.
And what was funny, I remember we went into first day filming the next day.
And of course the NBC executives were like, well, this is complete catastrophe.
The two judges.
Basically, one's just tried to kill the other one.
These Brits are crazy.
And then we walked in like nothing had happened.
And actually, we got on like an absolute house on fire.
But Aussie, hilariously, was the peacemaker.
Yeah.
He was the one that solved the problem.
Who would have thought?
He was a magical guy.
Sharon, thank you for giving me this interview and for sharing so many lovely stories.
He meant a lot to me, a lot to so many millions of people.
And, you know, my brother, my army brother, is a massive Black Sabbath fan, an Aussie fan.
I mean, just a complete mental fan.
And was distraught by it all, but then also felt like the final show was the perfect way.
Do you know that the King's Guard played Paranoid?
Yes.
Wasn't it brilliant?
Well, Buckingham Palace, wasn't it?
It was amazing.
I loved it.
Because that was magical.
It was.
Aussie would have loved that because he loved the Royal Abbey.
Oh, God, did he ever?
He adored King Charles.
Just adored him.
What could be better?
A Magical Royal Tribute00:00:46
Nothing.
What a way to seal that wonderful life of your amazing husband.
Sharon, it's lovely to see you.
Missed you, Piers.
Come back soon.
I will.
Let's do some fun stuff.
Yes.
Let's just invoke the spirit of Aussie and do some fun stuff.
You're on.
It's great to see you.
Thank you, Piers.
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