ExpressVPN: Right now you can get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Just scan the QR code on the screen, or go to https://ExpressVPN.com/PIERS and get four extra months for free. Is there a Christian genocide happening in Nigeria? Many prominent figures think so, with politicians and celebrities from Ted Cruz to Bill Maher to Nicki Minaj speaking out on the issue - and the rap star set to address the UN about it today. The coverage on a reported 50,000 Christians being massacred since 2009 has even moved President Trump to threaten military action and withdraw more than a billion dollars in US aid. To find out more about this, Piers Morgan is joined by Nigerian Foreign Minister Yusuf Tuggar, former Canadian MP and host of ‘The Goldie Show’ Goldie Ghamari and Reverend Zeke Dachomo. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/PIERS to speak with a strategist for FREE today OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code PIERS at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Genocide in Nigeria00:15:14
If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria.
If they don't, there's going to be hell to pay.
It's unfortunate that President Trump has been misinformed.
There's false narrative that there's some persecution or a genocide.
Why isn't it a genocide against Christians in Nigeria?
We don't want to be the next Sudan.
You dispute the numbers that have been reported to have been killed, but you have no idea how many Christians have been killed.
We are not hiding any facts.
Right now you have an Islamist government in Nigeria.
There is a reason that we're seeing these Islamic militants going around and yelling Allahu Akbar.
That's not by coincidence.
It's easy for her to sit thousands of miles away and play games with people's lives.
A performance because the Islamic are controlling the government.
Let me tell you, there's a genocide in Nigeria.
Nikki Minaj will address the United Nations later today alongside US Ambassador Mike Waltz.
The Queen of RAP is not often seen at the UN.
She's speaking out because like many people at the moment, she's extremely alarmed about what is happening in Nigeria.
It's the most populous country in Africa and one of its wealthiest, but it's fair to say it hasn't traditionally been a big subject for Western media or the US podcast circuit until recently.
Just over a month ago, HBO's Bill Maher said this.
If you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media sources suck.
You are in a bubble.
And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria.
They've killed over 100,000 since 2009.
They've burned 18,000 churches.
This is so much more.
These are their Islamists, Boko Haram.
This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza.
They are literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country.
Where are the kids protesting this?
Many prominent figures are now raising the issue.
Senator Ted Cruz wrote since 2009, over 50,000 Christians in Nigeria have been massacred.
It's a result of decisions made by specific people in specific places at specific times.
The United States knows who those people are.
A series of stories have followed on major U.S. networks, including Fox, whose interviews on the subject were said to have angered President Trump.
The U.S. leader is now threatening Nigeria with, in his words, sweet military action, choosing not to rule out both airstrikes and boots on the ground.
He's also threatening to withhold more than a billion dollars in US aid.
Just this weekend, government abducted 25 girls from a high school in Nigeria.
Boko Haram is being blamed.
Understandably, I wanted to find out more about all of this.
I expected the Nigerian government to be addressing the situation with urgency and invited the Nigerian Foreign Minister, Yusuf Tugger, to appear on the show.
There was a bit of a bad line, but I'm sure that you and many in the White House will find what followed pretty extraordinary.
Well, joining me now is the Nigerian Foreign Minister, Ambassador Yusuf Tuga.
Welcome to you, Foreign Minister.
I appreciate you joining us ensuing.
Thank you for having me, Piers.
So a simple question.
If somewhere between 50 and 100,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria since 2009, depending on which bit of data you want to take up, and 18,000 Christian churches have been destroyed, why isn't it, as some people are claiming, a genocide against Christians in Nigeria?
Well, to begin with, those figures are completely and totally inaccurate and false.
And Many in the media have examined them, they've fact-checked them.
So they come from inter-society and open doors, and they've been shown to be totally inaccurate.
What we have in Nigeria is a multi-ethnic, multi-tribal, multi-religious country of 230 million people.
Our nation-building project is not an easy one.
We have suffered from the effects of things that we have no control over.
Exogenous factors, such as the breaking up of the Libyan state, the killing of Gaddafi, the proliferation of weapons and fighters that have cascaded down to the northern fringes of Nigeria and beyond and have affected the entire region.
The failure of the EU Sahel strategy over the years.
These are all things that we are suffering the effects of.
And we do have Boko Haram in the Lake Chad region that affects not just Nigeria, but three other countries, Niger, Chad, and Cameroon that we've been contending with through the multinational joint task force that allows the troops of the countries in the region to pursue the terrorists.
50,000 insurgents and people that were caught in the region of the insurgency having surrendered and we were in the course of processing them and some were being rehabilitated, others were being processed through the legal system when Niger had to pull out because of the failure of the EU's Sahel Strategy and the military that was experienced in Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali.
You've made it clear that you believe these numbers are wildly exaggerated.
The International Society for Civil Liberties and Rule of Law is a non-governmental organization that monitors and tracks human rights abuses across Nigeria.
In its report in August, it said jihadist groups, including Boko Haram and ISIS in Nigeria, had killed over 100,000 Christians in the last 16 years.
It also noted that 60,000 moderate Muslims have been killed in that period too.
Now, I guess my obvious question to you is, if it's not 100,000, then how many Christians have been murdered since 2009?
And if it's not 18,000 Christian churches that have been destroyed, how many is it?
We in Nigeria have Christians, we have Muslims, we have atheists, we have animists.
And when we're counting death tolls, we don't necessarily go by religion.
And quite often it's difficult to even identify what religion an individual that has just lost their lives belongs to.
And what we are concerned about is that they are Nigerians, first and foremost.
And we've seen these sorts of agitations by faith-based organizations that is a prelude to the breaking up, to the dismemberment of countries.
We've seen it in Sudan.
We know this playbook.
It's happened.
There were agitations to create South Sudan, which was expected to be a predominantly Christian country, separate from North Sudan, which is meant to be a Muslim country.
Now we have a situation where there's fighting, continuous fighting in South Sudan.
There's another round about to kick off.
Same thing in in.
Uh, the north uh, north Sudan okay, but let me suppose it Muslim fighting each other.
So we don't want to be the next Sudan.
We will not allow ourselves to be the next Sudan.
No, I understand that faith-based groups that were agitating and they're no longer there to fix Sudan.
Okay, not North, not South, it's Nigeria.
As a member of the peace, let me, let me, let me jump in, if I may.
Heavy lifting foreign minister, if I may.
I'd like to jump in, if I may, because you do seem to be avoiding my questions.
You know you, you don't seem to know how many Christians have been murdered, which I find surprising.
Well, you haven't given me any.
Yeah, you've told me you don't know.
Well, just with respect, with respect sir, you have not given Nigerians.
So no, you know, I know what you said.
I understand as those that you are.
Yes, what you're saying.
I, if you could, let me speak.
What you're saying is that you dispute the.
You dispute the numbers of Christians that have been reported to have been killed, but you have no idea how many Christians have been killed.
What we surely can agree on is how many Christian churches have been destroyed.
Do you know how many.
Yes, I do.
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Over the last uh two years, there have been 52 52 churches, depending on which region again, you are referring to, because there are different regions in Nigeria and they there are.
I can give you the figures right here now.
So well, how many?
Since 2009, since 2009 over, since the last five years, attacks not destroyed, attacks on churches, 102.
So we're not hiding any figures.
You see, it's important to understand this same way that there are mosques that are destroyed.
I don't even have to mention that Nigeria is configured in such a way that you have Muslim and Christian populations all across the country.
There are, of course, states out of the 36 states that we have that I have a high concentration of Christians, the same way that there are states where you have a high concentration of Muslims.
Take, for example uh, the more recent attacks that have um brought about, um an intensifying of this false narrative that uh, there's some persecution or, as the likes of Bill Maher even go as far as to say a genocide the the ground.
Well, it's actually more than Bill Maher, if I may, if I may jump in again, if I may play you Understand.
If I may just finish this, I may jump in.
Sorry.
If I can just finish this, if I can just finish this, sorry.
The governor of Benue State happens to be a man of the cloth.
He's a reverend father.
He's a Catholic.
So you can see how it is impossible for him to be concealing what is happening.
He would be screaming at the top of his voice if indeed there was some genocide or if there was some specific calculated targeting of Muslims of Christians.
But he knows there isn't.
And that is why he is not.
But let me play you a clip from President Donald Trump about this.
If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria.
We're going to do things to Nigeria that Nigeria is not going to be happy about and may very well go into that now disgraced country, guns are blazing, to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible, horrible atrocities.
I'm hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action.
If we attack, it will be fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians.
These are cherished people.
These are great people.
Leave them alone.
Warning, the Nigerian government better move fast before it's too late.
If they don't, there's going to be hell to pay.
So what is your message to President Trump, who obviously completely disagrees with you?
My message is that we have the utmost respect for the United States of America.
We have, by extension, the utmost respect for its president, President Trump.
It's unfortunate that President Trump has been misinformed by those that trade in generalized labelings.
And unfortunately, it has resulted in this statement.
We urge that the engagement that is ongoing continues so that we will provide more information and clarity.
We are not the ground for either a jihad nor a crusade.
Nigerians have lived in peace, relative peace with each other for a very, very long period of time.
We are the people that populate the confluence of the rivers Niger and Benway, and we will continue to do so.
And it's important to be mindful of the complexity of the Nigerian state.
It is a multi-diverse state in so many regards, and it is an ally of the U.S. because we've worked successfully together in the past.
And we actually appreciate what President Trump has done in the past when other subsequent U.S. administrations would not sell tocano jet fighters to us, sorry, planes, aircraft to us.
President Trump acquiesced to that.
Complicity and Silence00:14:49
Some of the things that we're experiencing at the moment have a direct linkage to the application of the Leahy law to countries like Nigeria, where they were deprived of weapons to maintain peace at home and help also maintain peace in the region.
This is why we continue to experience terrorism in the region, in the Sahel region.
Whereas in the past, when we worked successfully together with the US, you could see what Nigeria was able to achieve.
We resettled Sierra Leone, we resettled Liberia successfully.
And our multinational joint task minister, I'm interrupting the fight against terrorism.
Until Minister, just stay there for a moment, if you will, because joining me now is the former Canadian MP, Goldie Gumari, host of the Goldie Show, who has spoken out frequently at what she says is a genocide against Christians in Nigeria.
Goldie Gumari, welcome to Uncensored.
What is your response to the foreign minister of Nigeria who says there is no genocide?
The numbers of those who've been killed, number of churches attacked has been wildly exaggerated.
Well, first of all, Pierce, thank you for having me on.
It's a pleasure to be here.
You know, Pierce, if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
There is a reason that we're seeing these Islamic militants going around and yelling, Allahu Akbar.
That's not by coincidence.
There's a reason that they are attacking Christians on Christmas Eve.
Let's not forget that back in 2014, almost 300 Christian schoolgirls were kidnapped by these Islamic militants, 80 of them.
Their whereabouts are still unknown.
Pierce, what's happening in Nigeria is jihad.
It's the exact same thing that happened on October 7 by Islamists when they broke into Israel and murdered Jews, yelling Allahu Akbar.
It's the exact same thing that ISIS terrorists did to the Yazidis in Iraq.
It's the exact same thing that happened in Lebanon.
Pierce, the only difference between what's happening today in Nigeria versus what happened 1400 years ago when the Muslim Arab invaders came to Persia is that back then people did not have cameras, but today they do.
It is 100% jihad.
We've seen it before.
This is how the Islamist playbook always happens.
Well, I don't think that the foreign minister was denying that things, bad things have been happening.
He's just denying that it constitutes a genocide and that the numbers of murders of Christians.
I think his government is complicit.
Right now, you have an Islamist government in Nigeria.
One of the things that he didn't mention to you is that typically it's been a constitutional convention in Nigeria that if the prime minister is Muslim, then the sorry, if the president is Muslim, then the vice president is Christian.
If the president is Christian, then the vice president is Muslim.
This is intended to have a proper representation of Nigerian population.
Right now, you have a Muslim president, and then they decided to choose a Muslim vice president.
And so there is actually no Christian representation in the Islamist government.
By the way, this is a government that is working closely behind the scenes with the Islamic Republic of Iran.
You should ask the foreign minister why Nigerian children, why Nigerian school children are holding pictures of the Ayatollah, who is a brutal dictator and is murdering my people in Iran.
People need to look into the linkages between the current Nigerian government and the Islamic Republic of Iran.
I was a politician for seven years, Pierce, and I can tell when someone is lying and avoiding the truth.
That's exactly what this foreign minister is doing, and shame on him for lying.
Foreign Minister, your response to that.
With all due respect to the lady, sorry, I forget her name.
She has already exposed her ignorance and lack of knowledge about Nigeria.
And it's easy for her to sit thousands of miles away and play games with people's lives.
These are really...
I'm not the one playing games with people's lives.
7,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria.
7,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria.
Who's playing games with people's lives?
I don't even know whether Nigeria has a president or a prime minister.
You can see how she's waffling.
She's stumbling.
But this is typical of The fact that you're not able to actually counter what I'm saying and it's why you're going after things that are irrelevant, that just shows how ignorant you are.
Saber rattling, saber rattling.
It is typical.
You can see she's exposing herself.
She doesn't even know the country that she's trying to start a crusade on and drawing comparisons with Gaza.
You know, it's clear what she's trying to do.
We have a constitution that has go and read my constitution before you even try to have a discussion with me.
Look up sections 10, 38, and 42 of our constitution.
There is federal character enshrined in our constitution.
It's part and parcel logic.
And the priority is the region where you come from because we don't identify ourselves as Muslims and Christians in Nigeria.
We identify ourselves from regions, geopolitical regions.
Christians disagree.
But do you accept who the Senate is?
Foreign Minister, let me jump in.
Let me jump in.
Find out the Foreign Minister of Church.
If I may, Foreign Minister, if I may, if I may, Foreign Minister, do you accept that there is a big problem?
We can quibble over precise numbers, but you've already said by your own numbers over 100 Christian churches have been attacked.
You won't commit to how many Christians have been killed.
I think you're slightly hiding behind the fact you don't know what all their religion was, but you must know how many people have been killed.
I can give you figures.
You did not ask me.
I can give you figures of those that lost their lives when how many Christians have been murdered in Nigeria since 2009?
Since 2000, since over the last five years, I can categorically tell you that 177 have been killed.
And it does not mean that the killing people with respect to understand that.
Foreign Minister, Foreign Minister, with respect, earlier when I asked you that question, you said you didn't know the number because many of the people who've been killed, you didn't know what religion they were.
So which is it?
Yes, so I am telling you, number killed when churches were attacked.
I told you the number of the churches that were attacked.
Now, how many Christians?
You misunderstood my question.
How many?
I want to know.
I want to know.
Foreign Minister, you have had United States senators like Ted Cruz saying publicly that at least 50,000 Christians have been murdered since 2009.
If you're saying that number is wildly exaggerated, what is the number?
I keep giving you the numbers, but clearly, you know, you are not.
You're not.
You're giving me the numbers since for the last five years.
Even listen to what I'm saying.
102, 177, number injured, 98.
Number abducted, 7.
Okay?
So we are not hiding any facts.
But as I said, we don't go about trying to identify a Nigerian's faith when they've lost their lives.
That is what Nigeria is.
Do you condemn?
Foreign Minister, do you condemn the attacks and the murder on Christians by Islamist groups in Nigeria?
Absolutely.
100%.
I lost my father-in-law to an attack by an Islamic terrorist group, Boko Haram.
So I myself am a victim.
I've lost family members to attacks and they were Muslims, but it doesn't matter whether they're Muslim or Christian because their aim is to kill, to maim, so that they would achieve their objectives.
And the number one enemy of Boko Haram is not a Christian.
It is a Muslim who does not subscribe to their own brand of Islam.
Okay.
I mean, Goldie Gamari, let me bring you back in there.
I mean, there's no doubt that tens of thousands of moderate Muslims have also been murdered by Islamists.
We can argue, you know, to the cows come, frankly, about what the exact numbers are, but clearly a lot of Christian churches have been attacked.
So have a lot of mosques, where it is believed that the people who are, you know, observing their faith there are too moderate for the Islamists.
So it seems like the Islamist groups like Boko Haram, like ISIS, are targeting pretty much anybody that they don't agree with, be that moderate Muslims or Christians.
Is this not, as the foreign minister is putting forward, a case of it's not just Christians being targeted and persecuted, it's also moderate Muslims and that there's a general wider problem with Islamist terrorism?
Well, there is definitely a problem with Islamist terrorism, but just because Muslims are being murdered, it does not negate the fact that there is a targeted ethnic cleansing of Christian Nigerians.
One does not negate the other.
What we can conclude from this is that there is definitely an Islamist problem.
Now, one thing that the Nigerian minister is purposely forgetting to put out there is that it's not just Boko Haram, it's also the Fulani militants.
Not a lot of people know about the Fulani militants.
The Fulani Islamists are also the ones who are generally targeting the Christian Nigerians, especially in the plateau belt.
And I've had several Nigerian Christians come on and speak about this.
In fact, I have seen videos where you have the Fulani militants on their motorcycles with machetes.
They're driving through various towns and you have the Nigerian military who's supposed to prevent them from going.
They're getting orders to stand down and allow the Fulani militants to go through.
Again, Pierce, the loss of life is horrible.
But as you can tell from the minister, he's avoiding questions.
He's avoiding eye contact.
Instead of actually answering the questions, he's focusing more on trying to attack me and trying to go after me because I'm not as familiar with the constitution.
I don't need to be familiar with the constitution of Nigeria to understand that over 50,000 Christians have been murdered since 2009.
I don't have to be familiar with the constitution of Nigeria to know that when someone yells, Alah Akbar, before they massacre 200 Christians and burn Christian churches, that's not just banditry.
That's jihad.
And I think the reason that the foreign minister does not want to admit this is because they are somehow complicit in this.
And, you know, he is purposely saying that he is willfully ignorant.
Because how could the Nigerian government not know if those people who have been murdered are Christian or Muslim?
The reason that he's avoiding saying that is because if they actually put out formal numbers about the numbers of Christians targeted and murdered, then they will have to admit that there is a genocide.
They don't want to admit that there's a genocide.
But that's exactly what's happening.
And I'm glad President Trump and others are calling it out.
Foreign Minister, finally, your response to that.
Well, like I said, lady, the lady and people like her trade in starting wars in faraway places where they have no contacts, they have no understanding of, and they can do that from their armchairs from a safe distance.
It's a real life situation.
This lady would not know the difference between a Fulani man, a Tiv man, an Igbo man if they stood in front of her.
But you can see clearly overnight, because it pays, she's probably making money out of it.
Actually, I'm getting zero dollars for two human rights violations.
Just as you can tell, he's not able to actually answer anything that I say as many times as I would have.
That's my credibility.
As many times as I can.
I think this shows the viewers exactly where the Nigerian government is.
She's going to keep on insisting that he has not heard the figures.
So that's what she's trying to do.
Start a war.
They want to break up Nigeria the same way they broke up Sudan and now they've run away.
She's not talking about Sudan anymore.
She's not talking about South Sudan.
I actually have to talk about Sudan to be dismembered.
This is what they do.
This is what they do.
What they try to do to Africa.
Nigeria is the largest country on the African continent.
It is the largest shock absorber to the African continent in terms of admitting migrants, in terms of freedom of religion.
It's Africa's largest democracy.
But people like you, who don't really care about freedoms, about the freedoms of either Christians or Muslims or Africans, will continue to agitate for the breakup of Nigeria for war.
The same way that it's happening in South Sudan and you've kept mom because you've moved on.
The reason that I know that you are working with the Islamic Republic of Iran is because the Islamic Republic narrative is.
That Africans are losing their lives.
You, it's just black, another black country to be broken up.
You don't care who does it.
Your hands are the ones that's covered in blood, not mine.
But we've seen you.
I'm not denying the Christian genocide, but you are.
It's not going to happen to Nigeria.
Protecting African Lives00:02:20
Shame on you.
Move on to your next project.
Move on to your next, you're a disgrace.
You're a disgrace to the Canadian nation.
I'm shocked that you say that you're you until you practice as a as a politician in Canada.
Move on to the next episode.
Leave us alone.
Well, I'm going to leave it there.
Thank you both very much indeed for joining me.
Thanks for having me, Pierre.
Thank you.
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Well, joining us now is Reverend Zeke Dachama.
Many, many people saw his passionate speech beside his shallow grave.
Some of the victims of this persecution, including President Donald Trump.
Welcome to you, Reverend.
It's good to talk to you.
Your words clearly had an impact on President Trump.
What do you believe is the reality about the situation in Nigeria with regard to the persecution of Christians?
The word of Trump towards Nigeria is marvelous.
It's comparable to what the Bible says.
As Israel was under persecution in Egypt, when there comes another Pharaoh that did not know Joseph, the Israelites went into deep crisis.
Their labor was double.
It was double to the stage God allowed this thing to happen to the state that they have to cry.
When they cry out, Exodus chapter 3, verse 7 came up.
God decided to say, It is time.
Let us go down.
I've had the cry of my people and let us show concern.
The person has a different interpretation of the Bible.
But one person says, Let us show concern.
I have concern for my people in Egypt.
I've had their cry.
Let me go down and deliver them from the Egyptian slavery.
It is the same thing with us in Nigeria.
All Nigerian Christians have been in bondage right from 2021.
In fact, it is a stage that they have the Islamic terrorists have bought that Christians should never lead them.
2021, there was an organized massacre that caught across every place in the nation, Nigeria.
But the media here are downplaying things for themselves.
And this is where we are in trouble.
I've performed several genocide burial more than 70 times.
Imagine some of the graves are 501 people killed in one night in Dobo-Nawa village named Gebru.
The Nigerian government downplayed that one because the Islamic are controlling the government.
So, the Nigerian government, if I may just jump in there, the Nigerian government has vehemently denied there is a genocide of Christians in Nigeria.
Further, they say a lot of Muslims have also been killed by the likes of Boko Haram for being too moderate, and that therefore the issue of Islamists killing people is not restricted just to Christians, but also to moderate Muslims.
What do you say to that?
So, let me give you the background of what happened.
This is the background with initially fast finding.
They created so Boko Haram by many that are in the high-ranking of the government to remove good luck, who is a Christian.
This is what happened.
They steered them, they caused riot every village, and the people run away.
They were located, and their target is to kill the Christian because good luck is a Christian.
That's why Jesus, that's why good luck says, My blood is not worthy for other people to die involuntarily and submit and accept result even before it was finished counting.
He knows the danger.
Had it been good luck announced the true result of the election, many Christians in the north will go into the grave because it was really declared a jihad in Borno.
They will enter the village on Sunday.
They will meet people in the church and they will lock the church building with Christian insight.
Anybody that is far outside, they will order him to go in.
They lock the church, they put Gatling, they set the church building a blast.
All Christians that were inside, including the pastor, the elders, and everybody, were born to death.
This is a report that they will never tell.
They move to other villages.
They will find people in the church.
They will bring them out and separate men and female.
And all the men, they will assemble them for slaughtering.
They will slaughter all of them, including the old youths and everybody.
And for the female, they will select the female for themselves and divide it among themselves.
Sexual harassment will take place.
Reverend Dashmo, if I could ask you, if I could ask you, what is your message to Donald Trump?
Because he was very moved by your words.
What is your message to him?
My message to Donald Trush never stops what he's doing because what he's doing is not his home.
So you consigned to Nigerian Christians.
It tallies with Exodus chapter 3, verse 7.
As God showed consigned to Egypt, to Israel, in Egypt, the Hebrews.
So he had to show consign to us.
Let me tell you, there's a genocide in Nigeria.
And when he comes, it's not going to be at us alone.
He's going to help the Muslims.
When the Christians in the far north were able to escape to the middle belt, what will they left?
You hear them saying Muslims are also killed.
By who?
By Muslims.
Because of set differences.
Some were trained in Saudi Arabia.
Some were trained in Afghanistan.
Some we are trained in Iran.
All of them have different background of belief.
They brought it into Nigeria.
After there was no Christian in the prospect to kill.
The blood of innocent Christians Rabkil is fighting them.
Then they went into fighting each other.
The sect of Isalah are fighting the Sunni, fighting the Darika.
That's why they'll meet them in the mosque and kill them.
Chanting Allahu Kubar.
Because of different beliefs in Islam.
And this thing has not been common.
It has been happening right from the time of Muhammad.
Jia.
Sometimes at the point, it will end up seeing same people of same faith killing each other.
Like today, the Iswab and the Boko Aram were abusive killing each other.
At Lechat.
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It's not a news anymore.
Well, it's clearly a very clearly a serious situation and it's definitely worthy of more global attention.
So, Reverend, thank you very much indeed for joining me.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
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