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Strategic Threat vs International Law
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| Israel is not at war with the Iranian people, but we are in war with the regime. | |
| If this corrupt, violent, and radical regime falls, that would be a huge blessing for everyone. | |
| Iran is presently the hero of the vast majority of people in the world. | |
| Rubbish. | |
| And absolute rubbish. | |
| Iran is giving Israel a bloody good hiding every single night. | |
| It's not though. | |
| It's not, though, is it? | |
| This is pure nonsense, Pierce. | |
| Why are you so deluded, George? | |
| Why are you begging dogs? | |
| Why is your patriotical hatred of all things Israel made you so deluded? | |
| My dad is bigger than your dad. | |
| Not my dad, just the number of people that watch my show massively dwarves you. | |
| My dick is bigger than your dick. | |
| Are you really down to that? | |
| But I'll tell you what, Pierce, you're a busted flush. | |
| Israel's allies have been rapidly losing patience with Prime Minister Netanyahu's government over the increasingly aimless brutality, it seems, of the war in Gaza. | |
| The strikes on Iran have drawn a markedly different response. | |
| There were calls for de-escalation, but unanimous agreement that Iran cannot be allowed to develop nukes and that Israel has a right to defend itself from that. | |
| The question is, when does defense become a tack if it hasn't already? | |
| And will the Iran crisis relieve international pressure over the killing of starvation in Gaza, which is suddenly far from the headlines? | |
| Well, George Galloway will be joining me with his views shortly. | |
| We'll begin with Naftali Bennett, the former prime minister of Israel, who many consider a front-runner to potentially be Israel's next prime minister. | |
| Welcome back to Uncensored, Mr. Bennett. | |
| I appreciate you joining me. | |
| First of all, to those who say that there is no hard evidence that Iran is imminently about to produce a nuclear bomb, and therefore this is an unjustified attack by Israel, what do you say to them? | |
| Well, the facts are to the contrary. | |
| There's highly enriched uranium in an amount that's enough for 10 nuclear warheads. | |
| This is more than Iran ever had, and it's at 60% enrichment grade. | |
| There's no civilian use for uranium at 60% enrichment. | |
| You don't need it for isotopes. | |
| You don't need it for medical needs, only for military use. | |
| So that in itself is a proof. | |
| Secondly, we have intel that on the device building, Iran has made strides. | |
| And third, we saw over the past month, the Khamenahi himself said that it's time to remove the tumor called Israel. | |
| That's a direct statement that he wants to annihilate Israel. | |
| Now, when you're talking about preventing nuclear military Iran, you can't wait for the bomb to be on its way to here. | |
| You have to do it when you can. | |
| Even now, it's after the 12th hour. | |
| You know, this should have been done a decade ago. | |
| Now it's much, much tougher because it's spread all around, but we're way, way after the latest deadline. | |
| Do you believe that the way this has played out in the first few days, this war, that Israel may have dealt a lethal blow to the Iranian regime in the sense of taking out so many military commanders, nuclear scientists, nuclear sites, causing so much damage to any nuclear program that they may have been pursuing, that actually, if you look at the response from Iran so far, | |
| it suggests that maybe this was, from a military perspective, a perfectly timed attack that may well potentially precipitate the removal of the regime. | |
| Look, that would be a wonderful outcome for the Middle East and for the world, because this regime is horrible. | |
| And by the way, I want to be very clear. | |
| Israel is not at war with the Iranian people. | |
| We respect the Iranian people. | |
| We should be living in peace with them. | |
| We have a very deep history that goes back thousands of years with the Persians. | |
| But we are in war with the regime and especially trying to stop it from acquiring nuclear weapons. | |
| If this corrupt, disconnected, old, violent and radical regime falls, that would be a huge blessing for everyone. | |
| That is not the explicit goal of this operation, but obviously we'd be thrilled if that would happen. | |
| Where does America sit in this? | |
| Because it looks to me that President Trump is keen for it not to be publicly seen that America is involved at all, but that tacitly conversations must have happened with Prime Minister Netanyahu, where he at least has not put up much of a fight to stop Israel doing this. | |
| Well, you know, America and Israel were different countries. | |
| We view things similarly, but not precisely the same way. | |
| And from our perspective, Iran is an existential threat. | |
| From America's perspective, it's a strategic threat. | |
| That's one notch less. | |
| And that's legit. | |
| Israel is not asking America to do anything. | |
| We're doing this. | |
| We do. | |
| One of the problems is that one of the facilities, the Ford enrichment facility, is buried deep underground in a mountain. | |
| And Israel doesn't have all the tools right now to take care of that. | |
| So as the campaign progresses, maybe new options will open up. | |
| And at the end of the day, it's America and President Trump's decision what he wants to do. | |
| I think that from a global standpoint, when Iran is so feeble, so vulnerable, the regime so weakened, with such a limited ability to retaliate, the risk-reward of taking out Ford is a big one. | |
| It's a positive because it's not only in our interest. | |
| I think America doesn't want to wake up with Iranian nuclear regime like what happened in North Korea. | |
| During the North Korea crisis back a few decades ago, there wasn't an Israel who was willing to do the hard work. | |
| Here we are willing to do the hard work. | |
| We're paying the price. | |
| It's our citizens who are taking hits. | |
| It's our pilots who are flying over Iran. | |
| If the world wants a safer place, yeah, they should back us. | |
| At the same time, of course, as the ongoing war with Hamas in Gaza, I've been increasingly critical of the Israeli government strategy in Gaza for a number of reasons, but primarily triggered by what came out of the mouth of Mr. Smodrich, who appeared to be brazenly discussing a form of genocide, ethnic cleansing. | |
| A clear, unambiguous statement of intent to clear all the Palestinians out of Gaza. | |
| When you heard what he said, what was your reaction? | |
| Well, Piers, I would urge you. | |
| First of all, I get you. | |
| I mean, you're looking at things from your perspective from the most balanced way that you can. | |
| I would urge you to look at Israel's actions and not to look at foolish words of politicians. | |
| And it's a bit peculiar, but Israel is a democracy. | |
| Too many of our politicians look domestically to gain some local benefit and sometimes they say really stupid things, but that is not the government policy. | |
| Israel's policy is not what Smotric said, and the way we are operating is one which is consistent with international law. | |
| If that is the case, and I've been saying this to a lot of my pro-Israeli guests recently, if that is the case, if everything you're doing is lawful, why does the Israeli government persist in banning international journalists from going anywhere near Gaza? | |
| Well, in Gaza, there's one of two options for our journalists. | |
| You can't just roam around because you'll get killed or step on a booby trap. | |
| You're either embedded within the IDF or embedded within Hamas. | |
| When you're embedded within Hamas, as we just saw a couple of weeks ago, the Washington Post came out with a segment saying that if you don't report what the Hamas wants you to report, you'll be threatened. | |
| So we're not going to allow journalists to just roam around a battlefield that Israeli soldiers are getting killed by the day. | |
| So we're not going to do that. | |
| But you can enter with IDF. | |
| You know, we do our best, but we can't let people roam around. | |
| By the way, that's pretty much, to my knowledge, consistent with most statements. | |
| No, that's not right. | |
| That's not right. | |
| I've seen some Israelis say that that's not right. | |
| I know many war correspondents and they've never known things to be as restricted as they are currently with Gaza. | |
| They can't believe that literally no international journalists have been allowed to enter freely. | |
| And frankly, when it comes to the risk assessment, that's not the business of Israel to make that decision for them. | |
| It's down to the individual journalists and their networks or their media bosses, as it always is in these situations. | |
| And I think the problem for Israel is that it's allowed you, the Israeli government and the IDF, to throw a cast of doubt and suspicion over almost anything that happens that reflects badly on Israel or the IDF, because it can't be verified either way. | |
| So almost everything that happens that's bad, all we see is people coming on the airways going, we don't think that happened. | |
| We're going to launch our own inquiry, buying time, moving on. | |
| Whereas if there was a willingness to allow international journalists in, they could report and verify freely and do their jobs. | |
| And that would remove a lot of the cloud of suspicion that actually Israel is doing stuff in Gaza, which it doesn't want the world to see. | |
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| Look, you know, if you're asking whether Israel's public diplomacy, and we call it an Israel Hasbara, it's, you know, the way we're our PR or the way we're being portrayed, if it's being run well by Israel, no, it's not. | |
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Hamas Strategy and Civilian Casualties
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| We're doing a really bad job at that. | |
| And you're living proof of that because, you know, I'm very much in the know. | |
| I have a son who's a soldier. | |
| I fought in all wars. | |
| I know the way the IDF operates. | |
| We don't do much of what is said about us. | |
| But the fact is that you think that we do, and therefore we should figure out ways, including what you're suggesting. | |
| Look, this is micro-tactical. | |
| I don't know if there's a way to... | |
| We've got nothing to hide. | |
| The GHF right now, the humanitarian fund gave out today 31 million meals just today alone. | |
| We're doing everything we can to defeat Hamas, bring home the hostages while minimizing civilian casualties. | |
| It looks bad because it does look bad because it is bad, because war is bad and war is twice or 10 times as bad when the strategy of Hamas is to wrap themselves in civilians. | |
| But why is it that Mossad appears to have dropped the ball so spectacularly with Gaza in a way it simply didn't do with Hezbollah or now Iran? | |
| That's the thing that has mystified me, is that you've got one of the world's obviously most formidable intelligence agencies is capable of planning for years attacks on terror groups in Lebanon and to dismantle before our very eyes now a lot of the nuclear infrastructure in Iran, | |
| but was incapable, it seems, of knowing that Hamas were building an underground tunnel terror network or was planning one of the biggest atrocities of modern times. | |
| And that after that, the only response appears to be that the only way to take out Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground. | |
| And if that means killing tens and tens of thousands of civilians in the process, well, that is very sad, but collateral damage. | |
| And everyone's just got to accept it. | |
| There seems to be a real disconnect between the way Israel and Mossad have gone about dealing with terrorism in Lebanon, terrorism in Iran, but terrorism in Gaza. | |
| Well, there's a fundamental difference in the modus operandi of our enemy. | |
| In both cases, we want to destroy our enemy. | |
| We don't want to hurt the civilians. | |
| The difference is that Iran wants to kill Jews. | |
| Hamas wants to kill Jews, but also it covers itself with civilians. | |
| And that's something that Iran doesn't do. | |
| And that explains the big difference in numbers. | |
| The Hamas strategy is to kill as many Jews as possible, but also to wrap itself and embed itself within the civilians. | |
| That is not Iran's strategy. | |
| That explains the discrepancy. | |
| The thing that's getting you, as you said, very bad PR as a country is that people just find the number of children that are dying in Gaza increasingly unconscionable. | |
| But they also felt that the three month, nearly three month blockade of food and aid was just another massively unnecessary hammer blow onto already impoverished, war-torn women, children, innocent civilians. | |
| And that there's been a relentless bombardment at the same time since the ceasefire was broken. | |
| And they don't really understand how this ends or what Israel's real game plan is. | |
| They're confused by what people like Smodrich say. | |
| They take him at his word and think that there's a plan to get rid of all Palestinians. | |
| We're now seeing these terrible scenes of thousands of Palestinians storming towards trucks to try and get the food that is being allowed in. | |
| And then a number of them are getting shot dead. | |
| And the IDF, having denied any of it was to do with them, have now conceded that they have been shooting at people where they believe there's a threat. | |
| The imagery, the imagery of starving people and whatever people try and pretend they're not starving. | |
| And I've had people on who say, oh, they're all fat people in Gaza. | |
| You could see thousands of people storming a truck. | |
| You only do that when you're incredibly hungry. | |
| The fact that they are being shot at is just to most people outside absolutely horrific. | |
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| Well, let's unpack the question. | |
| You said quite a few things. | |
| Regarding the three-month blockade, prior to the three-month, we pushed in massive amounts of food that was roughly equivalent to six months of food. | |
| Problem was that Hamas was sort of creaming the crop and taking it and then reselling it at a very low price, at a very high price to the people. | |
| And we were enriching Hamas's coffers, which is contrary to our very goals. | |
| So when we stopped that, it wasn't forever. | |
| We said we got to rethink the way we're doing things. | |
| I think we should have done this a year ago, a year and a half ago, from the very beginning, what we're doing right now, which is to designate zones that are for civilians and provide food and to screen the terrorists that cannot infiltrate those civilian zones and drive them out with a blockade. | |
| Do I think the whole war is being executed well? | |
| No, I think it should have been much, much shorter, especially versus Hamas. | |
| I think we could have gotten this done long ago. | |
| So I'm unhappy about the competence of the way the government is running it. | |
| But in terms of morality, you know, we're trying one way, we're trying another. | |
| Look, if our goal was to kill as many Palestinians as we wanted or anything of that sort, there would be a million Palestinians dead, not 50,000. | |
| It's hard, you know, because every child who's dead is painful. | |
| That's just a fact. | |
| It's a horrible thing, children that die. | |
| We do have to look at the broad picture, which is the ratio of combatants, of terrorists to citizens, and understand that this is one of the most rare cases in history where the whole basis of the Hamas strategy is to wrap themselves with citizens in order for you to ask me these very questions. | |
| And there's no magic, Piers. | |
| There's no magic formula here. | |
| It's tough, thankless work, but what choice do we have? | |
| We have to eradicate Hamas. | |
| We have to bring home our hostages. | |
| All of this can go away tomorrow morning if Hamas lays down its arms and lets the hostages out. | |
| So the responsibility is at the doorstep of Hamas. | |
| We're not happy about all of this, but it's the best we can do. | |
| And by the way, if anyone in the world has a better plan, let me know. | |
| I'll bring it to the government. | |
| Does it not give you pause for thought that two other former Israeli prime ministers have now accused Israel of committing war crimes? | |
| Well, as I said before, Israel is not exempt from stupidity. | |
| And for people, ministers, former ministers, former prime ministers, from saying stupid things. | |
| You know, it's part of our culture of debate, and everyone can say anything they want. | |
| I think they're wrong, flat wrong. | |
| And I'm very close to the military, to the soldiers, to the commanders. | |
| I myself, till fairly recently, served as a commander in one of the units and fought all the wars. | |
| Israel is not in the business of genocides, of killing civilians deliberately. | |
| It's just not our way of doing things. | |
| We never did. | |
| Now, on the extremes, can things happen? | |
| Yes. | |
| And do we investigate them? | |
| Yes, we do. | |
| There's lots of speculation about you. | |
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Trusting Iran Amidst Atomic Reports
00:11:12
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| You've been doing better in recent polling. | |
| Your momentum as potentially the opposition and perhaps successor to Prime Minister Netanyahu has been growing. | |
| Would you like to be Prime Minister again? | |
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| I've not made that decision yet, but I do think that the Israeli nation deserves better leadership, much better leadership. | |
| The nation itself has been amazing, resilient, tough. | |
| It's really tough times. | |
| I mean, people are dying every night in Israel, and yet 200,000 Israelis abroad are trying to get home, and very few Israelis are trying to get out. | |
| I think it's not only patriotism, it's simply deep love for this place. | |
| And it's a tough place, but we have no other place. | |
| And so I do think that the nation deserves much better leadership. | |
| But make no mistake, on Iran and fighting back Iran and bringing home the hostages and defeating Hamas, there's almost, I'd say, wall-to-wall consensus on the goals. | |
| Now, regarding the ways to do it, obviously there's a vibrant debate. | |
| I mean, there is, but there's also a majority view that Prime Minister Netanyahu, according to a poll published in the Times of Israel, cares more about holding power than actually bringing this war to an end or getting the hostages released, and that there are a number of good reasons for him not to want that war to end, not least because he'd be facing corruption charges when it's over and would be held to proper account for allowing October the 7th to happen on his watch. | |
| You know, many people think you should have elections sooner rather than later in Israel, and that if that was to happen, somebody like you might well come through and take over. | |
| And that might be a good way to try and get through this and try and bring this war to an end, get the hostages out and end all this. | |
| I agree. | |
| Naftali Bennett, thank you very much indeed for joining me. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Well, joining me now is the host of the mother of all talk shows and former British MP, George Galloway. | |
| George, you're listening there to Naftali Bennett. | |
| What was your response to that interview? | |
| Well, you did a good job as his Alastair Campbell to him as Tony Blair. | |
| I hope he remembers you if he does get into the Prime Minister's seat. | |
| I'm frankly astounded that you did not ask him about the bombing of the Iranian state TV station just a couple of hours ago, the mass murder of tea ladies, technicians, journalists, and broadcasters. | |
| I can't believe that you didn't know about that. | |
| And indeed, Professor, you've just told me that, so that's the answer to your question. | |
| I didn't know about that. | |
| Well, you really need to be better briefed. | |
| You're interviewing a guy that you're going to be able to do. | |
| In answer to your question, I didn't know. | |
| So that's the answer to your question. | |
| Well, you should have told me because Professor Morandi was in that building. | |
| I don't know if he's dead, but the story is that he was in that building to do an interview with you. | |
| And I very much hope that that is not true. | |
| And I've story is still. | |
| He told me that was true. | |
| He told me that he'd been told to leave, but had decided to stay and do the interview, in which all he did was call me a liar, a coward, and a genocider. | |
| So you did know about the bombing of the Iranian TV. | |
| There was no bombing going on when I interviewed him, obviously, or I would have stopped the interview. | |
| Pierce, there's mass casualties in the Iranian TV. | |
| Well, it's a disgrace that you did not know. | |
| Well, I didn't, or I wouldn't. | |
| Because you might have been able to ask if I'd known, I would have stopped the interview, obviously. | |
| Well, this is going to grow and grow as an issue, Pierce. | |
| You may very well be in difficulty here. | |
| I won't be in any way. | |
| One thing you did know. | |
| Why don't we get on? | |
| One thing you did know, one thing you did know is that Israel has scores, if not hundreds, of nuclear weapons, and you did not mention it. | |
| Why is Israel allowed illegally to hold scores, if not hundreds, of nuclear weapons in defiance of the law, uninspected by any agency in Demona? | |
| And reports today from Demona are that they are currently modernizing their nuclear fleet. | |
| Don't you think that would have put in a better perspective this issue of nuclear weapons? | |
| The reason I know you know it is because the brave Jewish whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who blew the whistle on Israel's nuclear weapons, | |
| came first to the Daily Mirror and was betrayed by your enemy and mine, Robert Maxwell, to the Mossad and then spent 22 years in prison in solitary confinement and turned up in the courtroom with his jaws wired together like Hannibal Lecter so he couldn't tell the courtroom what he told the Daily Mirror. | |
| Finally, the story appeared in Andrew Neal's Sunday Times, but only after Maxwell had betrayed him to the Mossad. | |
| So this issue of nuclear weapons, according to Tulsi Gabbard, Iran is not seeking to build a nuclear weapon. | |
| Why would you believe that? | |
| Why would you believe it? | |
| Well, I believe Tulsi Gabbard. | |
| But why do you believe Iran? | |
| No, I'm believing Tulsi. | |
| Given that the atomic agency come onto Iran. | |
| Why do you want to dodge Tulsa? | |
| You've talked and talked and talked. | |
| Let me get a question in. | |
| The Atomic Agency, as you know, brought out a report in the last few days. | |
| It made it clear that Iran had lied, obfuscated, denied access, not allowed enough inspections, and that it now got uranium enriched to 60%, which is a massive stage forward from where they were at 3% a few years ago to now 60%. | |
| And the move from that to being able to create a nuclear weapon is actually much closer and therefore more potentially imminent as a threat. | |
| And I'm just curious why you would trust Iran as far as you could throw it. | |
| The regime, not the people, the regime, when they are clearly accelerating their nuclear program, clearly accelerating their enrichment program. | |
| Why would you not be concerned about that? | |
| Piers, I trust Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump's director of national intelligence. | |
| You do? | |
| Don't you? | |
| Well, you do. | |
| I'm surprised you do. | |
| I'm very much hoping she'll be the next president, Piers. | |
| But I trust her. | |
| Don't you? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've interviewed her once in my life. | |
| I don't know whether to trust everything she says or not. | |
| Well, you know that Donald Trump appointed her the director of national intelligence. | |
| Why would you doubt her? | |
| Isn't Trump your friend? | |
| I'm not doubting him or trusting her or I'm trusting her. | |
| Does he appoint like that? | |
| I'm asking you why you trust the Iranian regime when they say they're not wanting to build a nuclear bomb. | |
| Well, you're actually asking the wrong person for this reason. | |
| If I was running Iran, I would long ago have had a nuclear weapon because Israel has scores or hundreds of them and as you've just heard, is determined to bring about regime change in Iran. | |
| So you won't get me to clutch my pearls about Iran having nuclear weapons. | |
| Why wouldn't you want a rate? | |
| Why wouldn't you want regime change in Iran out of interest, given what a draconian, repressive, despicable regime is? | |
| I have this old-fashioned view. | |
| You once had it also in relation to the country next door, Iraq. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That the leadership in any country is the business of the people in that country. | |
| But if you've got a nuclear-armed superpower trying to change your regime, frankly, you're an idiot if you don't arm yourself to the maximum that you are capable of. | |
| So you want to see Iran arming itself with nuclear weapons. | |
| Well, Israel's got hundreds. | |
| No, I'm asking you about Iran. | |
| You've just been talking about the slaughter of the enemy. | |
| I'm asking you about Iran. | |
| Would you, George Galloway? | |
| It sounds to me like you, George Galloway, unlike the rest of the world, would like to see Iran arming itself with nuclear weapons, to which I say you've lost your marbles. | |
| Piers, there you go again. | |
| Unlike the rest of the world. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you really think that you speak for the rest of the world? | |
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| Well, probably not China or Russia or North Korea. | |
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Lying About Tel Aviv Verification
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| So let's take those four countries out of it or Pakistan. | |
| Listen, Iran is most of the world has a real problem with the concept of Iran being a nuclear power, apart from you who thinks they should have loads of nukes. | |
| No, it's not just for me. | |
| Iran is presently the hero of the vast majority of people in the world. | |
| So rubbish. | |
| And absolute rubbish. | |
| But you can't see. | |
| It's a load of absolute nonsense. | |
| Take your eyes off the posterior tiny part of nonsense, which is the Western world. | |
| You think most of the world? | |
| Africa is with Africa. | |
| You think the rest of the world is with China is with Iran. | |
| Russia is with Iran. | |
| The Arabs are with Iran. | |
| Russia, China, the tiny number of people that you think are the world. | |
| They're not the world. | |
| The world is 8 billion people. | |
| You're speaking for the little clique that leads a tiny fraction of fewer than 1 billion of the people of the world. | |
| So just to be clear, you cannot see the end of your nose. | |
| As I suggested, then you want to put up as a defense for Iran that they're supported by China, Russia. | |
| Did you mention North Korea? | |
| That's a lot of people, isn't it? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| But are they the kind of people, in terms of their own regimes, that we should be taking as good supporters of these benevolent people in Terran? | |
| Under Keir Starmer's regime, for God's sake. | |
| You're going to blame the British for Keir Starmer? | |
| The French are living under little Macron. | |
| When did you get the right to decide that seven-eighths of the world's population cannot be considered valid because you, Piers Morgan, don't like their regimes? | |
| Listen, there's something else you didn't mention, and you must also have known about that. | |
| Unless you switch your mobile off at 10 o'clock at night, you already know that Iran is giving Israel a bloody good hiding every single night. | |
| It's not described at all. | |
| It's not, though, is it? | |
| You described it as a wonderful mission. | |
| It's promised operation to do it. | |
| Let me answer you. | |
| As always, the Iranian regime has put out apocalyptic statements about this will be the annihilation of Israel and everything. | |
| It's like it did the last time. | |
| And you know what happened last time? | |
| Nothing. | |
| Nothing. | |
| They fired a few rockets and the dome dealt with. | |
| This time they've got a few. | |
| This time they've got a few missiles have got through the dome. | |
| But the idea... | |
| Hang on, let me finish my question. | |
| The idea that the Israeli Air Force have managed to inflict this kind of catastrophic damage on military commanders, nuclear scientists, nuclear sites, and all of this and have control of the airwaves in Tehran. | |
| And the only response so far has been a few missiles that have got past the dome. | |
| You say you've seen Tel Aviv. | |
| They've not been pounding. | |
| Have you seen Alpha? | |
| They've not been pounding Israel. | |
| You are a scoundrel. | |
| This is something else you don't know. | |
| You didn't know about Mirandi. | |
| You didn't know about the TV stations. | |
| I knew what Mirandi told me. | |
| I knew what Mirandi told me. | |
| I knew what Professor Mirandi told me. | |
| Just to be clear. | |
| I don't know about it. | |
| Just tell you who I believe. | |
| Just to be clear. | |
| Just to be clear. | |
| I believe the people in Tel Aviv. | |
| Sorry, if I may finish a quote on Israeli. | |
| I believe the mayor of Tel Aviv, a former director of intelligence in the Israeli army, now the elected mayor of Tel Aviv, who says this has got to stop. | |
| We cannot win this war. | |
| That's the mayor of Tel Aviv. | |
| I can believe him. | |
| I see zero evidence. | |
| There is zero evidence that Israel can't win this war as things stand. | |
| Zero. | |
| Most of it. | |
| 90% of the damage is being inflicted by Israel onto Iran. | |
| Pure nonsense, Pierce. | |
| Why are you so deluded, George? | |
| Why is it begging doctor? | |
| Why is your technological hatred of all things Israel made you so deluded? | |
| Is this something else you don't know? | |
| Do you know that Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon are right this minute on TV debating how, if Trump gives in to Netanyahu's begging him to join in and save the day, that it will be the end of the Trump presidency, that it will split MAGA down the middle? | |
| Do you not know that either? | |
| No, why would I know that I'm on Babylon AIR? | |
| How would I know that? | |
| Well, if you're really, why do you expect me to know things when I'm literally interviewing people like you? | |
| I made the mistake Piers, of thinking you were a well-informed man. | |
| I am, but when I'm actually filming my show, it's quite hard to keep up with world events. | |
| Don't you have someone that can pass you a note? | |
| I've got lots of people that do a brilliant job in your ear. | |
| Yeah, it's why my show's a lot more popular than yours, because I'm better at it than you. | |
| So stop the lectures about how good a journalist I am or how good a broadcaster I am or how good my team are, because if you were so good George, you'd have a lot more people following you, a lot more people watching you. | |
| But most people think you've become a delusional loon, and I think that's sad. | |
| My dad is bigger than your dad. | |
| My dick, not my dad, just the number of people that watch my show massively dwarfs yours. | |
| My dick is bigger than your dick. | |
| Are you really down to that Pierce? | |
| Well, i've got some evidence that it isn't, but i'll not go there because i'm actually astounded at the sheer ignorance, which i'm being very kind and calling it ignorance. | |
| I could easily call it lying, I could easily call it willful ignorance that you didn't know there's tea ladies lying dead in the Iranian tv station, to be clear, and didn't even mention it to him. | |
| To be clear, I am being told by my team, in my ear as we speak, that outside of Iran there has been no independent verification of what you are saying. | |
| So you are believing television. | |
| So you are believing the words regime and forgive me, forgive me if I will wait for independent corroboration Before believing what the Iranian regime is. | |
| You don't believe that Professor Morandi, your frequent guest, that gentleman was born. | |
| He's not a gentleman. | |
| He's not a man. | |
| He's not a gentleman. | |
| I think most of the people who have ever watched him think he's a gentleman. | |
| No, I don't think he's a gentleman. | |
| I think he's a very disingenuous man who spews a lot of bullshit. | |
| They don't think he's lying, Piers. | |
| They don't think he's lying. | |
| Oh, they do, George. | |
| They do. | |
| They do. | |
| They think he's lying when he says he was bombed in the Iranian TV station. | |
| He wasn't bombed. | |
| He was on desktop. | |
| They're talking to me. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| There's footage. | |
| How was he bombed and talking to the media platform? | |
| He was talking to me. | |
| On the TV station. | |
| How both was he being bombed? | |
| Anyway, complete nonsense, man. | |
| Piers. | |
| You're talking about nonsense. | |
| As your dick is so much bigger than my dick. | |
| As your dad is so much bigger than my dad. | |
| And as your television program is so much bigger and better than mine, I'll say goodnight to you because I have rather more wholesome people. | |
| Oh, you're running away. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, I'm not running away, but I won't be coming back. | |
| Because I made the mistake of thinking that you were an honest man. | |
| In fact, you're a slippery. | |
| Well, it's okay, because I never made that mistake with you. | |
| So don't worry about it. | |
| I never made that mistake with you, George. | |
| I always thought you were thoroughly disingenuous and you prop up these evil regimes for reasons that completely baffle me. | |
| And you think you're the right guy. | |
| You think you're the honest guy. | |
| And actually, you know what you're doing? | |
| You're the guy who's onto your show. | |
| One minute you call me a rat, the next minute I'm your hero and you're praising me. | |
| It's pathetic. | |
| Is that why you're asking me onto your show every single week, Pierce? | |
| Sorry? | |
| Every single week, I've got the texts. | |
| Every single week you ask me onto your show because I'm all these things you just accused me of? | |
| No, I don't mind having you on to challenge you. | |
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| No problem. | |
| Every week? | |
| You asked me every week. | |
| You came on. | |
| You apparently last asked. | |
| We last asked you on six weeks ago. | |
| Why are you lying? | |
| I haven't asked you on for six weeks. | |
| You asked me. | |
| We haven't asked you on for six weeks. | |
| Every single time. | |
| Third of May, we asked you last time. | |
| Third of May. | |
| Your dick may be bigger than George. | |
| Third of May. | |
| Third of May. | |
| Your six may be bigger than you. | |
| But I'll tell you what, Pierce, you're a busted flush. | |
| You know what, George? | |
| We're about to pass 4 million subscribers on Piers Morgan Uncensored, and you're walking off because you can't handle the heat. | |
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