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May 2, 2025 - Uncensored - Piers Morgan
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World Boxing Champion Born 00:11:12
You compared him to Hitler.
Do you think he's similar?
Hey, President Trump, open eyes, please.
Do you think people have underestimated you?
Even when you knocked out Anthony Joshua, he's just not this guy, Sparko.
I love being down the dog though.
If you knock him out, you not only will change the media narrative, but you will go down in boxing legends.
It's going to be a bloodbath.
It's going to be totally different from last time.
Can't wait to put on the show and become Undisputed and just do the business.
This is London.
This is my town, and Wembley is my stadium.
I'm just ready to win, ready for war.
Alexander Yusik and Daniel Dubois will face off at Wembley Stadium in June for the Undisputed World Heavyweight title.
They're two titans of heavyweight boxing.
His recent defeats of Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have made this one of the most anticipated fights of the year, if not many years.
Well, the last two boxers to sit in the uncensored studio were Chris Eubank Jr. and Connor Benn, who had to be separated by their security guards.
Hopefully that won't have to happen this time.
Well, Alexander Yusik and Daniel Dubois, join me now.
Welcome to both of you.
Thank you very much for being here.
Let me just ask you, Daniel.
I mean, you're sitting two and a half feet away from a man that in July you're going to be trying to knock out.
When you get to this stage before a fight, how does this feel to be that close to that guy?
It's like a switch being in the fight mode.
And right now I'm just ready to get all this stuff out of the way so I can get back to what I know I do best.
But right now I'm just chill.
Ready for a fight though.
Is there anything that he could say to you that would trigger maybe?
We don't know.
We don't know yet.
Alexander, how do you feel?
It's an unusual.
I feel good.
Do you mind being this?
No problem, no problem.
Listen, you know, it's like Wolf, ship, ship, and the two box.
Like a wolf said, like a relaxed.
Is there anything that he could say to you?
No, no, no.
It's not like this.
It's like, for example, now I'm just relaxed.
Everything, okay.
Now show.
You've both had an extraordinary couple of years.
You've come back from losing.
Well, we're going to come to that, whether you think you lost or not in the first fight with the alleged low blow.
I have a view, I'll express it.
But when you knocked out Anthony Joshua, that was the punch that went around the world.
That was the punch that said, you are not only back, you're the champ.
And now you're taking on the guy who's got the other belts.
How confident are you that you can beat him?
Very confident.
Very, very confident.
But why?
He's never lost.
I believe I'm going to be the first man to do it and do it in England, do it in London.
It's all, I don't want to go on too much, but I feel like it's all built.
All this road, all of what I've been through has led me to this point to become an undisputed champion and do it in London and back at Wembley.
So I can't wait.
A lot of great fighters have tried to knock him out.
None of them have succeeded.
He's beaten everybody.
Yeah.
When you look at him, does that not concern you that this guy's just made a really?
I see another opponent.
I want to.
To me, I just want it's going to be a bloodbath in there.
You know, it's just going to be war.
And I'm going to go to war 100%.
You know, no doubt in my mind I'm coming out victorious.
Alexander, you've heard this talk before from other fighters.
You've always won.
But the way he knocked out Anthony Joshua, did that tell you that you're going to have to be on your top game when you fight?
This is a great fighter.
Ben Joshua, Miller, Khogovich, it's very strong fighters.
But I'm not Anthony, not Miller, I'm not Horgovich.
I'm just Alexander Usak, White Rabbit.
What's the difference?
What makes you different?
Yes, why have you never lost a fight?
Because I have like this beautiful idea.
And then Joshua don't have Miller, don't have Hogovich too, don't have.
But how have you got such good teeth?
I don't...
That's an extraordinary thing you've just shown me.
It's my mama and papa.
My little daughter, one year or two months, have like this.
Really?
Yeah.
I have four child, yeah.
Only small daughter have...
Really?
Yes, like this.
Like me.
I say, bad, it's and not bad because it's a woman.
Yeah.
Okay, I pay you again, no problem.
You mentioned family.
The one thing that you both have very much in common when I've studied your life stories is tremendously influential father figures.
And I'll come to your father shortly, Alexander.
But first of all, Daniel, for you, your dad's an extraordinary character.
So he had 11 children by two wives.
A number of them have become successful.
Not least in boxing.
I think four of them are boxers.
You're obviously the most successful.
But your dad was this remarkable guy.
He was a Camden market trader.
He spots a little gap in the market, which he thinks he can exploit of posters with a kind of Caribbean, I think, an African heritage.
So he goes to New York with his posters that he's created for I think five pence a poster.
Yes.
And he sells them for the equivalent of two pounds.
And on day one, up in Harlem in New York, he sells four grand's worth of these posters.
And then he stays and he stays and he stays.
And he's making millions and dollars selling these posters, all from an idea he had at Camden Market.
It's an incredible story.
Truly, truly is.
What did he give you?
What has he given you?
What's he given you as a father?
More than I can explain, really.
Without him, I wouldn't be here without his idea, another idea of putting me into boxing.
He said he knew before you were born.
Yes.
He had a sort of spiritual thing.
Yes.
That you were going to be a world boxing champion before you were born.
For sure.
And here you are.
Truly remarkable, special man.
Like I said, I'm lucky enough to have witnessed him in the action selling these artwork.
And I've seen him just fly off the walls.
He puts them up and everyone wants him and everyone's tearing the posters off the wall.
I want more and more.
It's really spiritual and a magical moment for me when I can see him at work using his magic and his power.
It's beautiful.
He brought up seven of you on his own.
Yeah.
And from an early age, he made you go through training with your knuckles.
Yeah.
Where you would get on your knuckles and you'd do press-ups.
For how many hours each time?
Four, four, three, four hours.
Without a break.
Non-stop.
With no water.
No.
No food.
No.
No break.
Four hours of press-ups on your knuckles.
I can barely do one.
With food, with water.
Some would say, what is your father doing putting you through that?
He would say, because I've heard him say it in interviews, I was turning him into a world champion.
What did you feel when you were doing it?
Well, just, I love, when I was doing it, when I first started, I just loved the idea of I can reach, do this amount of push-ups and train for this amount of time.
And you just go into your own world at that time.
And, you know, to be honest, I can't put into words how happy and glad I was able to do that.
But it must have been torturous, wasn't it?
At the time, sometimes it was, but...
Look at your knuckles now.
So these are the marks.
These are the tools of the trade.
They're the marks.
You can see it.
Yeah.
Just from that.
That's given when you were a kid.
It's giving me a special kind of power of what a lot of other people don't have.
Well, they say that every great champion in any sport, every great champion, you can pretty well chart it back to a period when they have a hunger which comes from actual hunger.
In other words, you don't have very much.
You had a lot of kids to go around, a lot of mouths to feed, right?
You didn't really have any money problems because your dad was making so much money.
But clearly you had that hunger because of what you were going through with the push-ups every day.
Big time, big time.
We had that hunger and that hunger, the drive, the guidance for my dad, and just the love of sport and being able to make him happy and make him proud of me.
That's all I needed to drive me on.
And, you know, the father's love, you know, the father, the son.
And it's just from there, here we are.
I haven't read much about your mother, but what part has your mother played in all this?
Yeah, she's been there supportive and she's seen, witnessed it all.
And it's been, you know, I can't say, but it's been just so remarkable for everyone.
And, you know, my dad's just been the guidance for everyone in my family.
So I'm witnessing and I'm learning.
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Alexander, your father very sadly died in 2012, and it's particularly sad because you just won the Olympic gold medal for Ukraine.
And you got a call from your father after you won.
And he congratulated you.
And he told you for the first time that he loved you.
And before you could get back to see him with your medal, he died.
And you, in fact, had delayed your trip back to get a beautiful car, which you wanted to show him.
And you've always regretted that you did that because you might have got back to see him otherwise.
But your father, again, was clearly a massively important figure in your life.
Father's Love Too Late 00:04:38
Tell me about him.
He was strong.
He was strong like this, like this.
And my father was like a long.
Maybe if for me, it's like this.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
But father was like a fast and running and strong because my father was wrestler, like a classic.
Gregoromo, yeah.
My father had a time talked to me, hey, Alex, go to boxing.
I use judo, taekwondo, Football, like a street fight, father, boxing, boxing, boxing.
I say, why boxing?
It's a great sport.
Hey, I like football.
Maybe I will play in England, Italy.
They have a lot of money.
No, it's bullshit.
Boxing.
Okay, I try, but now I use football.
You know, my family was just not a lot of money.
We have money only food and t-shirt, like a rent, rent rooms.
Yeah.
Football, I need money paying football training, form.
Yeah, we don't have money.
I'm back home.
Hey, Papa, what do next?
We don't have pay in football.
Yeah, I know, Alex.
Maybe you try boxing.
Yeah, okay, no problem.
Next day, we sit with my friend, my place, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, what do we do?
Maybe you go to gym boxing.
Where?
As a new coach, every day sparring.
Great man.
Okay, no problem.
I have gloves, have t-shirt, shoes, no problem.
I have a back and go to gym.
First time my face was blood.
My nose.
Oh my God.
I'm back home.
I say, hey, Papa, boxing is good, but it's very pain.
I know, I know.
If you will be training every day, you grow.
Okay, I try.
My start was 1st April 2002 years in Crimea in Filipo.
And having put you into boxing, he must have been very proud of you to see you progress to the stage where you won Olympic gold for your country.
Yes, definitely.
Father, for me, my papa not talked to me.
Hey, you great, you champ.
I proud for you.
No, okay, you win.
Good.
Congratulations.
But friends, my father, brothers, friends say, hey, listen, my son, champion of Ukraine.
For me, no.
I don't know why.
Okay, no problem.
But after Olympic Games, I'm back in the room.
I have gold medal right here.
I called, hey, we win.
Congratulations.
I love you.
Congratulations too.
And he'd never told you before that he loves you.
It's last conversation.
Yes.
It's very poignant in the sense that that was the last time you spoke to him.
You just won Olympic gold medal.
But in that conversation, he told you he loved you for the first time.
That conversation must be so important to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was proud for me.
It was not important for me.
Yeah, I know, I know what he'd love me, mama, my sister, but not talk to me.
Very, very proud of you, but not to your face.
Dirty Punch Controversy 00:11:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every day, say for my daughter, my son, I love you.
Daughter, every morning.
Hi, hello, how are you?
Good.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice school.
I love you.
So there's the link of you two men.
Is you're both heavyweight champions of the world, but you're both driven by incredibly important father figures in your lives.
Can you appreciate each other for that?
Yeah, I'd say that when you hear that, Daniel.
That's good.
That's good.
I think we respect each other because boxing is a hard sport.
Now we just like opponents.
It's not bad opponents.
It's a sport.
After sport is a life.
Maybe we like a friendly, it's not a problem for me.
It is a sport, but it's a sport that can have deadly consequences.
When you get in that ring, you guys are tremendously powerful punchers.
And nothing can happen.
People have died in boxing rings, Daniel.
Does that play on your mind?
Do you think about that?
I don't think about it, but you know the risks you're taking, and life's a risk.
You could walk outside, get run over, anything can happen.
But in this sport, I'm prepared for this risk.
This is a risk that I know that I've been trained from since I was five or seven years old.
So I'm more than ready for it.
That first fight you had, there was a very controversial moment, I think in the fifth round, where you hit him low.
Now, the big debate that's raged ever since was how low.
Let's take a look at the clip.
Now, I've watched this a lot, this clip, from various angles.
My understanding, Daniel, is that the law says if it's the belt line, a punch, it's legal.
Yeah.
From that angle, from other angles, it looks to me, I'm not an expert, but it looks to me like you hit him on the belt line.
Yeah, that's it.
Which, if you had, then you would have won that fight because Alexander actually took about four minutes, which he was allowed to do, four minutes before he got back into fighting.
I mean, do you feel a bit robbed by what happened there?
Yeah, definitely.
You think it was a legitimate?
That was.
That Royal was.
That landed.
You didn't see him grab his balls.
He went down, and that was a legitimate knockdown.
Do you think you knocked him out?
Yeah.
Alexander, what do you say?
This was in the past.
I live now, present.
For me, I don't know.
For me, it doesn't matter.
I don't know what's going on, what will be the future.
Yeah.
For me, in the past, it's in the past.
I live now.
Listen, first time, it's not my ideal.
It's a problem for Efery.
But what did you think watching it then?
What do you think?
This punch?
Yes.
It's not clean.
Really?
Yes.
It's very close.
Yeah.
It's maybe like this because her punch was like a boom and the fists go up.
Listen, it's a problem for Efery and coach who study clean clean not Gagrasna, dirty punch.
A dirty punch?
Yes.
You think?
Yes.
Deliberate?
This was a dirty punch.
It was a dirty punch, Daniel.
It wasn't a dirty punch.
But you know what?
PC is saying that you did that deliberately.
What do you think?
What do you think?
It didn't look like it to me.
Honestly, that wasn't a dirty punch.
That landed clean.
You know, I should have been unified champion, but a number of things happened because of that, behind the scenes, political and everything around that, why they couldn't give me that.
Was that the hardest punch you've ever had, Alexander?
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Sorry, was that the hardest punch you've ever had?
Yeah, it was a hard punch.
The hardest, the hardest you've had?
No.
No, because when I was young, I take punch with our horse.
A horse?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
A horse.
Horse, yeah.
Well, how did it punch you?
My hands, like this.
Because I work in firm.
Like a horse going, yeah.
I go to, hey, get out, get out, get out, get out.
Boom!
With his head.
This.
With the head?
Yeah.
No, no.
Kick.
Like a leg.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Legs and boom.
All right, so let me.
Well, let me ask you a different question.
Zero fight, zero win.
Get all.
So that horse is unbeaten.
But was that the hardest punch by a human being?
It's a hard punch to punch and bow.
What do you think of that?
You don't punch as hard as a horse kicks for starters.
I don't think I landed.
He ain't really felt my power yet.
Really?
Last time he got away, he ain't really felt it.
Yeah.
I'm not horse.
Yeah.
Of course.
He never come away.
Yeah.
He got away last time.
This time, he got from a beat.
Horse punch one.
My opponent, what's going on?
What's going on?
Please, please, please, please.
But he did.
But Alexander, he did stop you for four minutes.
That's a hell of a punch.
For you, not four, not four.
Two.
Maximum two.
Because I have five minutes.
Yes.
Yeah.
I say, hey, I ready?
I ready?
It's not four minutes.
You were told don't.
Your advisors said, don't.
Yeah.
I ready?
I ready.
Two minutes is for you a long time.
Does that not concern you?
Does that not worry you?
That he has a punch?
No.
That could stop you for two minutes?
Because that's a knockout.
Not stopping me, this punch.
It was dirty punch.
The one that he knocked out Anthony Joshua with was a clean punch, inarguably.
He's got a hell of a punch.
You're a hell of a fighter, hell of a champion.
Yeah, I know.
It's very dangerous, but he has a dangerous punch.
Yes, I know.
Oh my well, it's a dangerous guy because it's a boxing.
One punch.
Go home.
This is dangerous, man.
I know.
But, but.
You're going to be at Wembley Stadium with 90,000 people.
I would imagine 89,000.
Maybe less.
There are a lot of Ukrainians in the...
Actually, there might be a lot of Ukrainians.
So let's say there may be 70,000 British fans.
I don't know.
But let's say, because there's lots of Ukrainians here.
20,000 Ukrainians.
They're going to make so much noise.
You're going to be in an atmosphere you've never fought in.
Wembley Stadium, baying for him to win.
Does that, last time you fought in Poland, because that was where you had to fight because of the war, and we'll come to that.
But this time you're going to be in his city with his people.
It's going to be a very intimidating atmosphere.
Yeah.
London is like my home.
Wembley too.
Enough.
You think Wembley will be your home?
Of course.
Of course.
Cheering for you?
Listen, for me, it doesn't matter how a lot of people support Daniel.
For me, my place is a ring.
For me, when I step in the ring, it doesn't matter what's going on.
Me, my opponent, and the referee.
Enough.
Thing is, Daniel, you're a much better fighter, I think, since you last fought him.
Yeah.
I think that whole experience, the fallout, and then the fights you took afterwards, you're a better fighter.
You're more dangerous now.
And you stopped him last time.
He says it was a dirty punch.
You don't think it was.
I don't think it was, if I'm honest.
If you land that punch again a little bit higher, you're going to stop him.
It lights up, yeah.
But you've got to get to him again.
And what he showed, Alexander, against people like Tyson Fury, who's a brilliant champion boxer, hard as nails and never stops, keeps coming for you.
How are you going to defeat that?
I'll just say bombs away.
Bombs away.
Really?
Every punch.
Bombs away.
It's no real.
You know, it's something that I need to do.
I need to clear up the controversy, obviously.
Clear up the doubts and everything.
You think it's unfinished business?
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
Unfinished business with music.
You were earlier this morning shoving him around in public.
What was that about?
It's all about the fight, I guess, and all of that.
I'm not.
There's hype?
Bit of hype, bit of, you know, when he's getting in my face and everything.
So, no, this is London.
This is my town.
And I want to make sure that I stamp my authority and make sure Wembley is known as my stadium.
And I'll become king there, become undisputed champion.
And that's what's really about for me.
Being back there and, you know, living, really, you know, really embracing the spirit and becoming a real undisputed champ.
There's a brilliant story about your family.
Yeah.
War Territory and Ukraine 00:10:54
Which is the fighting spirit of your family.
Yeah.
The DNA, literally, actually.
It goes all the way back to the 18th century.
And one of your ancestors called Sylvia Dubois, who was a slave and a bare-knuckle boxer in New Jersey, in New York, who retaliated against the abuse of her slave mistress and almost killed her with a single punch.
And instead of lynching her, which is what used to happen at the time for slaves who rebelled against their owners, they actually were so impressed, they gave her freedom.
And the Dubois legend was born.
Yes.
The one-punch Dubois who rise up against everyone and anything.
When you think of Sylvia, what do you feel about her?
Because it's an amazing story.
She fought and stood for justice.
Yes.
She fought and stood for justice.
And not allowing herself to be silenced or just, you know, she really, really was a special, oh my God.
And just that's where we get the fighting spirit.
That's where my dad obviously gets a fighting spirit from.
From her.
And he passed it down onto us, I believe.
So, you know, our roots in boxing and fighting and pugilism have gone back a long way.
Yeah.
Alexander, you have a different motivation, I think, that drives you, which is the backdrop of the war in Ukraine.
I went to Ukraine four months after the war started.
I interviewed President Zelensky and the first lady, Alena Zelenska.
And in the course of the visit there, I went to Buka, where you're from, which had been the scene of an appalling massacre by the Russian forces when they invaded.
And it was horrific to see what they had done to your old town.
What was the moment like for you when that war started?
How did you feel when it began?
Listen, when start war, I was here in London.
We work 24, 24 February.
I must go to Kiev because it's Dursday Day for my daughter.
I say my friend said, hey, listen, you must change tickets because Kiev not go to Jet.
We must go to Poland and sit in the car and go Kiev.
I called my wife, hey, how are you?
What you do?
Will be home, please, not go to my family, my child, my friends, parents, my wife, my mama.
I say, when I go to Kiev, it was 25 February.
I take my gun and go in military place, like a support place and Kiev.
We, all my team, we not, what do now?
We called the friends, okay, we must together every time sit in the home, like a bomb shelter.
Yeah.
It was a hard time.
I think maybe I'm not more boxing, but okay.
Good.
I'm continuing boxing.
Your home was ransacked by the Russians.
I believe it was ruined by them.
Have you been able to go back to that, that home?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
I clean home, make problem, what soldier break.
Yeah, now no problem.
This house out in the cay, then live, yeah, then leave the family is like my acquaintance.
I believe your wife and your children live in Kyiv now.
It was bombed last week by the Russians.
Number of people were killed, including children.
How concerned are you for the safety of your family?
I believe for Jesus.
I pray every day.
Jesus protects my family and the Ukrainian soldiers protect my family, my country.
I'm told that every day of the war, in the morning, you wake up and you check on the internet what has happened.
Do you still?
Yeah, of course.
I called my wife, my friends, Junikiev, who frontline, yeah, every day I take what's going on.
President Zelensky, on the first day, the first night, he refused to leave the city, even though the Russians were coming and they were clearly going to try and kill him.
What do you think about President Zelensky?
To me, he's a heroic figure, a hero.
Is that how you feel about him?
Keep brave.
I think yes.
Because if President Zelensky can get out, now, ni Emelia.
We didn't have Ukrainians.
We fight, we support Ukrainian, a lot of people.
Thank you so much, all your country, UK, because your country helped my country, help my people.
For me, it's very important.
Thank you so much.
I think we win because we win because Ukrainian not stopped first step.
Hey, listen, we live, grow potato, smile, and Russia.
When I take Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk.
Listen.
Bad time.
What is your view of Vladimir Putin?
Nothing.
You compared him to Hitler.
Do you think he's similar?
Yeah, definitely.
It's true.
Because when rockets flying home, it's a home, it's not military infrastructure, it's not army, it's just home.
We live children, grandmother, grandfather, like a bomb.
And Russian news say, this is a military object.
You crazy?
Listen, I have a lot of video, a lot of video, not only Kiev, Donetsk, Krivoro, Harikov, Zaporozhye, Lugansk, a lot of not military infrastructure.
Is it just we live people, hospital, theater, like a shop, market, home, big home.
Crazy.
What is your message to Putin?
I don't have a message for Putin.
You'd like him to stop?
Please stop.
President Trump is trying to get a peace deal.
But as part of that deal, it is now widely believed that Ukraine will have to let Russia keep much of the territory that it's taken illegally.
How do you feel about that?
It's bullshit.
It's a bullshit.
Listen, we have a world a lot of Sporne.
Questionable, yeah?
Places.
Listen.
Why Russia is due and our world know?
It's bullshit, yeah?
Listen.
All world living through.
We have place.
Ukraine like this, is Ukrainian.
Okay, living like it is.
Why, why you take my country?
Hey, President Trump, open eyes, please.
What would you like him to do, President Trump?
Please stop war in Ukraine.
But don't give Russia the territory?
No, of course no.
It's in my territory.
It's a territory of my country.
It's my people.
Of course.
Okay, listen.
UK have territory, yeah?
We have Spain.
Gibraltar.
Take this Spain.
Please.
No, it's a UK territory.
The rules, passport, number, like a car number, yeah.
Okay, we're through, no problem.
I go to Gibraltar, I take this.
I have visa.
UK.
Oh, okay, Alex.
Welcome.
So you don't think Ukraine should give up any territory?
No.
Back, Crimea, back in.
Because you were born in Crimea.
Yes.
You want Crimea back and the rest of the territory's taken.
Yeah.
All back to Ukraine.
Yes.
Respect Between Heroes 00:11:40
Daniel, when you hear this, you guys are going to fight in a boxing ring for sport, as Alexander said.
But this is real war.
You know, you talked about going to war with each other, but this is actual war that he's involved in.
And it takes extraordinary mental strength, I think, to continue being an elite athlete as he's been throughout this period with all this going on, with all the bombs raining down on his country.
What do you feel about it when you hear it?
He's a hero to his people.
I guess, you know, outside of sport, what he's doing and what he's standing for is good.
I don't know about that too much, so I don't want to get involved and saying too much.
There's other wars going on all over the place.
But apart from that, he is a hero to his people.
So yeah.
Does that mean something to you?
Yeah, yeah, good.
Of course.
It's incredibly respectful.
Yeah.
It's nice to see that from two guys who are going to be punching each other for 12 years.
That's the world we live in.
You go to war, but there's business and then there's the other life, I guess.
Daniel, people, I think, have mischaracterized you.
They say you're very quiet, you're quite shy, you don't really open up.
But I'm seeing a different side to you already in this interview.
Do you think you're misunderstood?
Do you deliberately keep a sort of shield around yourself?
Well, when you grow up in the media and you have the camera on you all the time, it's hard.
You know, you're developing under the camera.
And what people may think of you four or five years ago is not the same person that is in front of you today.
So my journey has been slow.
You know, sort of, I've led the athlete, the sporting life from a young age.
I was on the GB squad, and then from the GB squad, I turned pro.
So I've lived in an upward trajectory to the top.
Do you think people have underestimated you?
Yeah, I love being the underdog, though.
I love being young.
I mean, even when you knocked out Anthony Joshua, all the media coverage was, what does this mean for Joshua?
It wasn't, isn't this incredible for Daniel Dubois?
He's just not this guy, Sparko.
And all the headlines are about what happens with Anthony Joshua.
Yeah, I need to set that straight.
But yeah, it was a lot of that rather than embracing a new champ.
So I think it's going to happen slowly.
I just need to keep knocking them out.
Well, if you knock him out, you not only will change the media narrative, but you will go down in boxing legend.
You'll have knocked out one of the greatest heavyweight champions that there has ever been.
I mean, this is for you the absolute pinnacle of your career.
This is the most important hour of your life.
Do you feel ready for it?
Means so much.
I want to really come.
I really want to do it.
I'm really going to do it.
And yeah, I'm fired up for this one.
Alexander, you were asked who was your boxing hero in one interview, and you said you didn't really have one, but you said the first inspiration was Muhammad Ali.
Why Ali?
Why was he so important to you?
Because it's not only boxing.
They like Ali, like a personality.
Ali, support for people, for God, for all people who have problem.
Boxing, of course.
Ali, we want from the time, like the move, like a fast, you know, it's great men.
And like in boxing and the world.
I like a lot of Cotto, many Pacquiao, all, yeah, Marc Antonio, Barrera.
History.
Where do you think you rank?
Are you the best ever now?
I'm last.
Why do you say that?
Because it's me.
You're just being modest?
I like this life, live.
But you don't think you're number one?
Listen, it's not I, I must say.
It's a people, not me.
But more and more people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listen, for me, I underdog all time.
I would put you now in the top three ever, without any doubt.
My boxers?
No, I say you in the history of heavyweight champions.
I would put you in the top three, personally.
For me, I actually think it would be Muhammad Ali.
I'd have Lennox Lewis, who lost two fights and went back and knocked them both out, and I'd have you.
Thank you so much.
I don't know who I'd have one.
Maybe our Lee for the reasons you said, but what our Lee did for people, you've been doing for the people of Ukraine.
You are just as important and influential to them.
In fact, the soldiers of Ukraine, when you wanted to fight in the war, they said, please go and fight in the ring because of what it does for the country and the morale, which is a big responsibility for you.
But you're carrying the weight of your country on your shoulders.
Yeah, of course.
How does that feel?
I feel good.
Listen, when I go to During, I'm boxing not only my team, only me.
Yeah.
I'm boxing only my country in Ukraine.
Daniel, who's your boxing hero?
Do you have one?
Boxing hero.
I've got many, so many great fighters, great chaps.
Is there one that stands out?
Who's been like when you think about who you'd like to be talked about in the same sentence?
There's, I guess, our Lee and the great George Forembard.
I put my dad up in there in the same sentence as these guys.
Right.
These are the, you know, these are the, yeah, for me, that was from a young age to be similar to my dad.
So my dad, Mike Tyson, Alex Lewis, that era of guys and people and fighters and men.
Those are the top guys, my opinion.
What did your dad feel when he knocked out Anthony Joshua?
Great moment.
He can tell you, but it was, yeah, great moment, great victory.
And what did you feel?
I mean, you sparked him.
Yeah.
Right?
No one saw that coming.
You did.
But not many people saw that coming, but you flattened him.
Maybe ended his career.
I mean, at that moment when you do that, when you unleash one of your thunderbolts and you knock somebody like him out and they're lying there, what are you feeling?
It happened so quick for me, you know.
And it's like I've done this from all my life.
So for me, it was like, yeah, mission accomplished, finished.
And yeah, I'm just happy we won.
You came through it.
We are the underdogs.
We still are the underdogs.
But we're going to keep proving people wrong.
You're religious, I believe, as well.
Yeah.
You believe in God.
Yeah.
Alexander's very religious.
We know this, Christian.
God can only choose one winner.
Yeah.
Well.
You're both going to be praying to God, I guess, before the fight.
Do you think he's going to be with you?
I will.
I do.
I do.
I think he will.
I think it's not just God.
God helps those who help themselves.
So I believe he'll be looking at me, counting on me to do what I'm supposed to do and make sure that I don't cut corners in camp or in training or in life, in personal life, and make sure that I'm living the straight now path to success.
So that's what we've been doing from a young age.
So I need to stay on that track, that mission.
And it's very hard, but I definitely believe I can do it.
Alexander?
Yeah.
He thinks God's on his side.
Yeah, I know.
Listen, God, help who help different people and world.
Listen, for God, we just, Hey, stupid guys.
Like boxing and forgot very important like this.
And soul.
It's very important soul.
Not muscles, not money, cars.
Do you think your soul is stronger than his?
Only soul.
But more good work.
It's me.
It's you?
Yeah.
You've done more good work than him?
I think yes.
Wow.
I'm just starting.
I'm just starting.
I'm younger than him, so of course he's done.
Yeah, yeah, and he's younger.
He's had eight years on you.
Exactly.
So what can you say?
I've got catching up to do outside the ring, and I'm working on it.
I do sense a respect between the two of you for your achievements, but also for you as men.
Am I right to think that?
I'm growing.
Yeah, well, it's just competition.
This is just.
I'm not going to just start attacking everyone.
So, yeah, you can think what you want.
But yeah, I'm a fighter, a true, true fighter, true warrior.
Alexander, you said you're going to have two more fights.
This is one of them.
If you win, who would the last fight be against?
Not if.
When.
When you win.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's problem my team.
It's not my.
Is there anyone you'd like to fight?
Maybe, would you like to fight Tyson Fury one more time?
Maybe, maybe Tyson Fury, maybe Anthony Joshua, maybe.
But now my focus, it's Daniel.
And you have no doubt that you're going to beat him?
I think I win.
Yeah, I believe.
Daniel, he has no doubt.
Yeah, well, everyone says that.
What's your message to him?
Look at him and tell him what's going on.
My message is: I'm just ready for war, ready to win.
It's going to be a bloodbath.
It's going to be totally different from last time, you know.
I've just grown up and I've learned and learned more about myself as a man.
Ready for Bloodbath 00:00:58
So I can't wait to put on the show and become undisputed and just do the business.
Well, gentlemen, I wish you both the best of luck.
It's been fascinating to talk to you both.
I know your father will be there and I think your father will be there in spirit, Alexander, looking down, willing you on, as I'm sure he has been ever since he sadly passed.
I wish you both all the best of luck.
Thank you for sharing your stories.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
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