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Nov. 4, 2024 - Uncensored - Piers Morgan
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Wild Campaign Decision Time 00:04:48
This is it decision time after the wildest campaign in living memory The best one forward is to pass the torch to a new generation It's been a bit of a whirlwind I grew up a middle-class kid We got a war going on and she's out partying It is clear he has become increasingly unhinged America chooses its next president Harris is closing the star power Nice to see you Kamala.
It is nice to see you Kamala.
What we need is a president who works for all of us.
I can't stand a bully but just like Kamala I always stand up for one Trump with firepower.
She's a radical war hawk.
Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, okay?
Democrats say Trump has a woman problem.
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong, intelligent women.
Ever.
Anti-woman, you're anti-abortion, and basically you're anti-American.
Trump says America has a Kamala problem.
Kamala broke it and I will fix it.
Current president says, well, I don't think even he must.
These are the kind of guys who like to smack in the ass.
It's the final countdown.
And from New York City, it's the final uncensored election debate.
Well, here we are in New York City.
It's election eve and to say it is exciting here is probably the understatement of the millennium.
And the bottom line is that the polling is so close, particularly in the seven crucial swing states.
As I said on X yesterday, anyone who thinks they know exactly what's going to happen here is talking baloney because anything could happen given how close these polls are.
It could be a Trump win narrowly.
It could be a narrow Harris win.
It could be a Trump landslide.
It could be a Harris landslide.
Nobody knows.
My gut feeling, which I'll kick off proceedings today, is I think Trump could win quite big.
But I might be completely wrong.
It would be a first, but I might.
But let me introduce my stellar panel to debate all this.
Katie Pavlish, editor of townhall.com, Fox News contributor.
Francesca Fiorentini, the host of the Obituation Rim podcast.
Ashley Sinclair, the political commentator and author of Elephants Are Not Birds.
And Wajahat Ali, the host of Democracy-ish, and I finally pronounced your name correctly, Wajahat, because I took the liberty of asking you how you pronounce it, and you told me how your mother pronounces it.
We finally got there.
After a year of badger hat and wadgah hat, it's Wajahat.
And I apologize for nothing.
So we got there.
Welcome to all of you.
Katie, it looks to me like Trump, it's my gut feeling talking here, which talked to me in 2016.
It was anecdotal based.
I've been down to Florida and Texas doing crime documentaries.
Nothing to do with Trump.
And I just got a feeling that he was going to win.
I've got that feeling again, even though the polling is this close.
What's your gut telling me?
Well, first of all, it's wonderful to be here again with you.
I haven't seen you on a show since your CNN days.
We've seen you at the five over at Fox, which has been great, but it's wonderful to see.
Welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, so there's all this polling.
I would say an overwhelming amount of polling.
And there's two big questions, I would say, with that.
The New York Times poll came out over the weekend, and they admitted that they probably are wrong because they undersampled Republicans, specifically white Republicans, by almost 16 points.
But on the other side, polling since the Dobbs decision has underestimated polling for Democrats and women getting out to the polls and voting on the issue of abortion.
Now, anecdotally, you can walk around and feel people are talking about it.
We're in New York City this morning.
I went on a walk and heard lots of people on street corners just talking about what's going to happen.
When you look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, polling there, talking about the issues that matter, it's very difficult to think that 70% of the country says we're economically on the wrong track and that Kamala Harris would win given that Trump is beating her on the economy by something like 20 points.
So nobody really knows, but people feel that they know, and we will find out tomorrow.
Francesca, great to finally meet you.
We've never met in person.
Lovely to see you.
Are you going to interrupt me as much as you do virtually?
It's more difficult when you're sitting here because I feel a bit sorry for you.
It'd be like sealed clubbing or something.
So I can't do that.
Interesting poll out of Iowa, which shocked everybody at the weekend, where this historic poll, which is normally quite accurate, the woman who does this poll, came out with a bombshell report that said that Harris was three points clear of Trump in Iowa.
There was another poll the same day that had Trump 10 points clear.
But it certainly asked a lot of questions suddenly about the impact potentially, as Katie said, of the abortion issue of women coming out to vote against Trump on that one specific issue in particular.
What are you feeling about that?
Women Voting for Desperation 00:09:16
Yeah, I mean, it's not an understatement or an overstatement to say a lot of people are voting for their lives right now.
We know just this last week that two women in Texas died of miscarriages, preventable infections.
They came in with an infection.
ERs turned them away because they said you still have a fetal heartbeat.
Our laws say that you cannot get treated until that baby dies.
And both of those women lost their lives.
One of them was already a mother.
The other one was very excited about becoming a mother for the very first time.
So women are truly voting for their lives and also for the judges.
You know, this law, the Texas Harpy law, had gone through multiple federal courts and met Trump-appointed judges at every single stage.
So women aren't just voting for their lives, they are also voting to reclaim a certain amount of representation in our justice system.
Why, if you care so much about women's rights, and I'm not disputing that you do, or that it's a big issue, and for the record, I believe in a woman's right to choose.
Let's put my cards on the table.
But why, especially Carmela Harris, positioning yourself as I'm the one for women's rights here.
How do you equate that with what goes on, for example, in women's sport, which is so grotesquely going to spin this to something so unrelated?
It's not unrelated.
The reason I think it's important is that last week, the United Nations came out with a report saying 900 women have been deprived of medals by trans athletes around the world.
This is outrageous and an obvious direct attack on women's rights.
How do you equate?
Never mind me.
How do you equate being for women's rights, but also for that attack on women's rights?
Because cis female athletes are not dying.
What assists?
In your terms, women born who are not dying.
Let's just clarify.
They're not being turned away from emergency rooms.
But here's a woman.
Wait, hang on, hang on.
Wait, Pierce, here's the goalpost.
Can you move it a little bit?
Because you're not going to be able to get it.
When people say, what are you?
Did you go into a long speech about cis and things?
Or did you say I'm a woman?
Yeah, I say I'm a woman.
I'm telling you right now that female athletes aren't dying at the rates that women are currently dying in places like Georgia, Amber Thurman.
Okay, but let me throw back.
This is like Florida.
Let me throw back.
This is like Texas.
Let me throw back at you on that.
This is interestingly, as we've come as a business.
People's lives are on the line.
I have a friend who, if she'd been in a red state, would have lost both her life and her two babies at the time.
One of them, she was pregnant with twins.
One of them had trisomy 18.
You understand what I'm saying?
Right now, women in red states where there are abortion bans are being forced to not only watch both of their babies' lives, if they are pregnant with twins, both of them die.
Hang on, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Watching both of them die.
And potentially lose their own life.
It's not malpractice when they're about to be single.
There's a single state that has some limit on abortion.
Also, they allow you to save the life of the mother.
They should do that.
What your issue is malpractice and the doctors not saving the life of the mother.
They all have exceptions for the menu.
For any of that, bring back these women who've lost their lives.
Your issue is with the doctors, not with men.
My issue is with Attorney General Ken Paxton.
My issue is with Republican lawmakers across this country who are ensuring that, for example, the Biden administration cannot enforce federal law that says you cannot turn away a woman at an emergency room who's going through an obstetric nightmare.
There are exceptions to save the life of the mother.
I love that, like, in your little hypothetical world, all these exceptions to the law.
That is the law.
That is the law.
It's not.
It's not hypothetical.
That's the law.
And the doctors are.
It is the law.
And Biden has tried to enforce it.
And in fact, Ken Paxton and other federal Trump-appointed judges have blocked that law, federal law, from overriding Texas's heartbeat law, SBA.
Everyone knows this.
Again, I'm talking about the money.
So in theory, in theory, my love.
It's all lovely when you say there are exceptions.
It's all lovely when you say this or that is the law.
However, in practice, women are losing their lives.
Okay, Francesca.
Francesca, what do you want us to do?
Francesca, stop talking for one second.
And I will simply point out again what I think is an inconsistency.
You're very much wanting to protect women's lives.
And yet, today, before we came in here, a bombshell report out of France shows that Iman Khalif, who was the boxer from Algeria in the Paris Olympics, who won a gold medal, but who in one of the earlier rounds actually had an opponent who quit after 40 seconds because she'd never been hit that hard.
Because it turned out that Iman Khalif, as I said at the time, is a biological male with male chromosomes and had male physiology.
That report has now confirmed that today.
And my question is, again, why do you not care about a boxer, a trans boxer?
Because female athletes aren't dying.
Who's far more powerful?
So they're just going to beat up.
Because female athletes are dying.
Who might actually kill a woman in the ring?
Why don't you care as much?
Because female athletes aren't dying.
And that's really dangerous.
Of Olympic athletes, Olympic female boxers that there are, are this much.
But the number of women who get pregnant every single year are millions.
And millions of Americans.
Men love abortion.
Abortion more than anyone.
67% of women who get abortions, they say they feel coerced by a partner.
You know who that partner is?
A man.
Men love abortion.
Let's go to any man here.
There's no issue of abortion ever.
Do you know how many women are abortion?
Wait, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
Hang on, let me go to the major.
So let me ask you, just on a bigger thing.
I think it's really interesting that you're seeing clearly there's Going to be a big female turnout for Kamala Harris.
Clearly, there's going to be possibly an equally big, if not bigger, turnout of men for Trump.
The question is: who can get more of each one out there?
But the gender gap is unprecedented here.
What does that tell you about this race?
So, I brought Pepto-Bismo and lactate for you for your gut to soothe it and to level it with what's going to happen on Tuesday.
And Trump is going down, not just on a microphone, the only job that he could probably do well.
Sorry, too soon?
He's the one who did it.
He's the one who did it for the first time, let's be real.
The reason why he's going to go down, it's something that I've been saying for two and a half years, is America and the GOP in particular, and this goes to your question, has underestimated the righteous rage of women, the majority of the population, ever since Dobbs, which is the case for those who don't know, that overturned Roe v. Wade took away women's right to choose.
I've been telling everyone, I said, wait for it.
Women, not just young women, older women.
They're going to show up at the polls.
You saw the 2022 midterms.
You've seen all the special elections, and especially in Iowa.
Check out Iowa.
We just saw that self-stroke poll.
It's an A-plus poll, right?
She's been doing it for years.
She's usually bullseye, nine out of ten.
I was shocked.
You know, Piers, I don't get shocked by much.
When she came out yesterday and said, plus three Iowa, and then you look at the tabs, why plus three Iowa?
Young women, but also overwhelmingly, women above the age of 65.
Why?
Because they remember a day back in the day when women did not have equal rights, when their sisters, when their daughters, when their moms had to die because they could not get health care.
And they're like, you know what?
I don't want my daughter or my granddaughter to go back.
We want to go forward.
So this righteous rage of women is going to be felt tomorrow, Piers.
I've been saying on your show for a year.
I believe I'm going to sit in front of the camera.
And if I'm wrong, I'm going to come back into your show.
You give me crow, make sure it's halal.
Put some salsa.
There you'll be getting fooled.
Kamala Harris is going to win.
The X factor is going to be women, independents, Republicans voting against Trump, and people of color.
Can I just talk about the mechanics of this for a second?
Because it's obviously an emotional topic.
There are millions of women who are not voting on abortion.
There are actually a ton of women who are voting on this issue of allowing Macron men into their locker rooms and the safety of female athletes, not just on the field, but also the sexual harassment and potential sexual assault that they are put into a position to possibly receive as a result of these woke ideologies where men can just say that they're women and all of a sudden you're forcing women with no consent to allow them into their safe, previously safe spaces.
I don't understand why the leftovers are doing.
I said it's called desperation.
Let me just.
It's permeating the room.
As someone whose family fought to have equal rights in FEMA athletics, I don't think it's desperation.
It's upholding Title IX and decades of work by women to make sure that women have equal rights and protections and they're not exposed to men in their locker rooms.
But in terms of the mechanics of this, when Dobbs was overturned, it returned this issue to the states, which is exactly what's been talked about here.
It actually expanded democracy to 50 states because now people can vote on the state level rather than having one vote on the federal level.
Even if Kamala Harris were to win on the issue of abortion, she will have a Republican Senate, potentially Republican House.
She is not going to be overturning the Dobbs decision.
She's not going to be passing any kind of abortion legislation federally.
So this idea that people are voting on this and expecting some kind of change, they can vote on it based on their emotions and how they feel about it, but not much is going to change in Washington.
Well, they're going to vote down ballot as well, though.
So I think that Republican politicians, all-down ballots, should be running scared and have been running scared.
They finally were chasing the car.
They caught up with it.
And now the car is collaborating them.
And it's called women voting in America.
Trump Comparing to Hitler 00:05:59
I agree with you.
I want to say that I do think that it has been very wrong.
And I think this campaign's gone kind of off the rails with like comparing Donald Trump to Hitler.
And so I want to say I condemn anyone that makes those comparisons because I don't think they're fair.
So will you join me in condemning anyone who compares Donald Trump to Hitler?
Yes, including J.D. Vanes.
Yes, yes.
That's what you were about to say.
Let's condemn Donald Trump for comparing Donald Trump to Hitler and saying he would like Hitler's generals.
Can you join me in condemning Donald Trump for saying that he would like to see generals as well as 10 from a mile away?
It was so transparent.
Hang on, don't forget all morning.
Can you join me in the middle of the morning?
Here's my answer.
Here's my join me in this.
Here's my answer.
Here's my answer.
Francesca.
Can you join me in condemning anyone who stops?
Is this what stopped?
Again, of all the ridiculous things to go after Trump about, calling him the new Hitler is the most self-harming thing the Democrats have come up with.
Nobody with a brain thinks that he's the new Hitler.
100%.
Right?
So can you join me?
So why do it?
So can you join me about this?
Do you say here and now that you condemn Donald Trump for comparing Donald Trump to Hitler?
Yes or no?
I condemn people like you for only people like Donald Trump for saying that Hitler had some good ideas and that he wished he had his generals.
How many Jews has been in the world?
I'm just saying, I think it's wrong.
How many of you randomly have woke raids to Hitler?
Francesca out of interest, how many Jewish people has Trump murdered?
No, no, no.
To justify the comparison to the biggest murderer of Jewish people in history.
I do think it's very fun that he's coddling up to people like RFK Jr. who said that COVID-19 could only infect, could not infect the Jewish population.
That's your point.
Listen, John, let me ask you a serious point.
I was wondering how long it would take.
It's taken 15 minutes for Hitler's name to be raised, right?
And I just find this one of the more staggering.
One of the more staggering aspects of this whole race has been the left's utter insistence on continually evoking the name of Adolf Hitler.
Nobody who's on the independent side or moderate side of this thinks anything but that's disgusting when people do that.
Why do it?
Can I tell you why people are doing it?
Nazis, Hitler's, KKK have trended more during Donald Trump's ascension than in my entire lifetime.
General Kelly, four-star general who was his chief of staff, his former secretary of DHS, has said on tape, Donald Trump praises Hitler, praises Hitler's generals, and is a fascist.
Donald Trump has an idol.
But wait, wait, wait.
I know, I said he never said.
I know, I know, I know.
Just give me 30 minutes.
There is no tape.
And you say it's on tape.
Where is the tape?
General Kelly on tape admitted it.
Also, we know that Donald Trump publicly has quoted Hitler by saying poisoning the blood of America and comparing everybody.
He's deliberately quoting Hitler.
When he was told, when he was told Hitler's quote, he said, I didn't know, said it again.
Trump wears blue suits.
Apparently, occasionally Hitler does.
Is that a sign?
Okay, give me 20 seconds.
Poisoning the blood.
Bloodlines.
Bad jeans.
Meaning with Nick Fuentes being told good German, but being told afterwards Nick Fuentez the white nationalists refusing to condemn him.
At the MAGA boat rally, you got people with swastikas and MAGA things, right?
White power signs, white power signs, very fine people.
Charlottesville.
Can I ask you to say that?
Piers, this is why people are saying this.
I do think it's preposterous.
I gave you facts.
Can I seriously, you two, can I ask you genuinely?
Sure.
Do you think Trump wants to send his Jewish grandchildren to camps?
No.
Then why are you making these comparisons?
He has been the biggest.
He wants to do mass deportations.
How do you think it is?
Yes, he does want to do mass deportations.
I think they should leave the country the same way they came here.
What do you think that will do to the economy?
Hang on.
I'm doing this.
What do you think that will do to the economy?
I'm the moderator.
You are a contributor, not moderator.
Ask Kirkland.
I don't think 11 million undocumented people being mass deported due to the money.
Any panelists thought I see fit?
Let me bring in Katie.
You were saying, oh my God, and I kind of feel the same.
It's like the moment we start debating the comparisons with Trump and Hitler, my heart just goes off the door.
You can't condemn Donald Trump for comparing laughter and Katie.
You just can't do it.
Katie.
I think these comparisons are grossly disrespectful of what the Holocaust actually was.
Yes.
And to keep invoking it in this way is really just despicable and irrelevant to the current conversation.
And it doesn't allow us to actually get to the issues that are affecting the American people.
People are not voting based on these comparisons.
They're voting on things like the economy and illegal immigration.
Those are by far the two biggest issues.
Correct.
And the legal immigration issue is not just one that Republicans have questions and feelings about.
I mean, in New York City, they're completely overwhelmed by this problem.
You're seeing this happening in cities all across the country.
Local law enforcement, healthcare, public services are being cut as a result of this.
It's a resource management issue that has been caused by this administration's policies.
And people are voting on it.
And let's just look at the numbers here, going back to the facts and the data we have.
The majority of the people in this country want a deportation program.
The majority of the people in this country want to have fewer illegal and legal immigrants as a result of them flooding the system.
The majority of the people in this country feel like their goodwill has been taken advantage of and that they're just expected to deal with their communities being overrun by the federal government without help and then expected to pay for it in a number of ways, taxes, quality of life, etc.
So those are the things that people are voting on.
JD Vance as Good Challenge 00:05:20
And when you have all this noise and the name-calling on this issue and the constant berating from the Harris campaign of trying to say that Madison Square Garden was a Hitler rally, I was there.
It was not a Hitler rally.
It was a very diverse crowd.
And when you get into the justification and the comparisons, not only are you dishonoring the memory of millions of people who were murdered.
It was a Holocaust survivor there.
Exactly.
You get into the weeds on this debate that is completely irrelevant to.
I think the January 6 writer was wearing that Holocaust denial shirt that the Jan 6 rider was.
All the Hamas rallies we've seen over the course of the past year in Hamas.
They're rallying in our city calling for Holocaust.
If we want to get into that, do you know who's coming out in large numbers and voting against Trump this week, which might be the tilt to Harris?
Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans, listen, did that right away away?
No, no, they haven't.
Puerto Ricans, 450,000 in Pennsylvania, Piers, about 100,000 in Wisconsin.
They heard what was said at that rally.
You know this.
You've been following it.
And the past two weeks.
They don't see it as a joke.
Talk about emotions and feelings.
I've got to say that.
They heard that and they're like, oh, that's what he thinks of us?
I have to say, I thought it was very stupid to have that guy who is a well-known.
Room didn't laugh, by the way.
And all the air went out of the room.
The room didn't laugh.
But the truth is, somebody on the Trump team booked him.
And the very first thing he did.
And he was a large constituency in crucial swing states.
That seemed to me a dumb decision.
And then Trump said no big deal when confronted.
He should have disavowed.
He said, no big deal.
No, you'll see it.
Then he dressed up as a garbage man.
Let me ask you.
Another dumb decision, it seems to me, and it could be proven or not by what happens.
Come on.
Harris did something dumb.
No, no.
I do think that in her desperation to try and play an interesting middle ground from the Israel-Hamas war, she deliberately didn't choose Josh Shapiro as her running mate, a guy that could almost certainly have delivered Pennsylvania, which it looks now from all the polling might well be the moment that one of these two wins the election.
Do you think with hindsight she made a mistake in her VP choice?
No, I think it was very smart to go with Tim Walz, America's dad.
I think it was a great compliment to Kamala Harris.
I think Josh Shapiro, some people are trying to do the divide and conquer, but you have Jews themselves, like Chuck Schumer, leading Jewish-American senator for Democrats, who said, Nope, there's no anti-Semitism here.
The reason why Josh Shapiro probably wasn't the best pick, and based on reporting, is once they met, Josh Shapiro didn't seem to vibe with Kamala Harris.
Tim Walsh said, I'll run through a fence for you.
And she said, okay.
And also with Josh Shapiro as an AG, they looked at some of the cases that he did.
They thought it'd be too much baggage.
With Tim Walt, no baggage.
There you go.
So that's what some people say.
So that's why progressives say you might lose it.
Too many question marks.
You know what?
I should go with Tim Wallace, dad, Hunter, coach, Minnesota.
Yes, much more so than JD Vance.
Rich boy, JD Vance, Professor's pet watch.
I was surprised.
I thought Trump's choice of JD Vance has turned out to be a rather good challenge.
Hang on a second.
I listened to JD Vance's Joe Rogan podcast.
Really interesting, wide-ranging interview, including some very interesting exchanges between Rogan and him about all manner of issues.
And I thought, yeah, he's a smart guy.
I get it.
And he's obviously probably a lucky candidate to run for president himself.
So I don't think that was a mistake at all.
One of the things I'm surprised about, if I was Trump in the last 48 hours, I'd have been down on the southern border.
I'd have been down there reminding people that Kamala Harris was the border's art.
People are trying to pretend she isn't now, but she was.
This is how he called on liberal media the entire time.
I remember it.
And it's been a catastrophic failure on her watch.
Why do you think he's not gone for that optic of him on the southern border?
Because he's been doing that for eight years.
I mean, that's something that people know about him.
They know that Kamala Harris was a very famous person.
But in the last few days of a race?
He talks about it in his rallies, but he's trying to, he has his base locked up.
He has the people who are voting for him on immigration locked up.
He's trying to go to these places to get these remaining last votes that he needs in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
You think Pennsylvania is a key?
He does not have to necessarily win Pennsylvania, but she does.
So he has to take that away from her and take it off the board if he's going to get ahead of her.
Right, Francesca, here's the thing.
Look, on abortion, I agree with you, okay?
So it doesn't matter.
I can't even vote.
But the trouble, it seems to me, is, and Katie raised this point earlier, there has never been an incumbent candidate.
All right, it's a little bit skewed by the fact she wasn't the actual incumbent president.
She's the incumbent vice president.
Never been an incumbent president where the polling against a crucial issue like the economy is so skewed in favor of her opponent who has ever won.
Now, the only reason she might win, and the only reason she's so close, is that the opposing candidate is Trump, who is so divisive.
But if Trump was to win, I would say it was because actually the economy, cost of living, and immigration, where she is directly pegged to the failure on the border.
Yeah, and I mean, I think it's incredible that so many people believe that buying a $100,000 gold watch will get them closer to being a billionaire like Trump, although, you know, it's waning with all the cases.
No, no, no, but $100,000.
Hang on, Tiffany.
I was at the border.
The most effective thing is that I'm saying.
So here's what I'm saying.
Actually, I like Donald Trump's practice.
One more line.
No, no, no, no.
Let me go one more line.
Trump has started doing at the start of every rally in the last two days.
Threatening Ms. Cheney.
Defending the United States 00:16:17
No, no, no.
The same sentence where he just says wanting to protect women without their wife.
No, no, no.
Same sentence.
He says, do you feel better off than you did four years ago?
And the answer is for most average Americans, they do not feel better off.
If he wins, I suspect that's why he wins.
I understand that.
I think it's incredible that he would do that when he wins on the economy, when we know that he is personally bankrolled by billionaires, the likes of Peter Thiel, David Sachs, and I'm not sure.
Hang on here, she's not.
Can you finish?
Let me actually finish what I'm trying to say.
And Kamala Harris's policies, you know, $25,000 down payment for a first-time homeowner.
These are policies that put money in people's pockets, right?
The ability to add home care.
Why didn't she do it in the last four years?
She was not president.
And she's working alongside Joe Biden for better or worse.
But the ability for Medicare to cover home care for our aging parents, that's massive.
If she were to deliver that for the American people, we would save hundreds of thousands of dollars every single person each year.
Okay, so in terms of a wealth transfer, Kamala Harris's policies would put more money in recognized people's wine pockets, and Donald Trump's would be a siphon.
Trump deserves some credit because I think his policies are bold.
I think obviously they're appealing to the Joe Rogan extended universe and all the D-bags who are growing up very quickly and can vote at 18.
However, young men are douchebags.
I'm saying the ones that are coming up and being very radicalized by your friends, Andrew Tate.
What is extra?
Here's the problem with the people on your network.
Have you got Be Nice in your profile on X?
Is Be Nice in them the hashtag?
Be nice.
No, I'm not surprised.
The thing about the left is, Majaya, I'll bring you in here.
Sure.
Is that you all brand yourselves as the nice party?
You're the nice people.
It's Trump's horrible, ugly rhetoric.
But meanwhile, he's a Nazi, he's a fascist, you're all garbage.
Every 18-year-old is on the Rogan side of the big swing.
He's a douchebag.
I mean, this is a kind of generalized hate.
Douchebarging, Mr. Brown.
Which I find so utterly hypocritical.
Have you seen the comment section?
These people are going to be going out.
Have you seen your own comment section?
Do you know the kind of hatred that I get from appearing on this?
When you call all these douchebags?
I'm not surprised.
Have you seen it?
I'm trying to tell you.
Doesn't cross your mind you say hateful things that might annoy people?
Can I like all 18-year-olds douchebags?
She says that in exactly no pushback or something like that.
She says that about the world.
Young men who are being sort of inculcated into the Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan world, fast enough.
No comparison at all.
No.
They do not espouse the same philosophies about almost anything.
Well, there's a certain masculine mess there.
If you actually knew what you're talking about with those two, there is no comparison between Joe Rogan.
Also, exercise is like all right and scary people.
I use the word bro.
What do you mean?
Let me bring in the only man here.
Is it helpful to call every 18-year-old in America male a douchebag?
That is not what I am saying.
I'm saying that.
You literally said it.
No, that's exactly.
I'm saying that that is who Donald Trump is appealing to.
He is not trying to appeal to women.
And here's what I will say.
I like his strategy.
I like his strategy.
Hang on.
Can we do that?
Just really quickly, I do.
But John, no, no, you be quiet for a moment.
So I want to combine two points that you mentioned, right?
And in all seriousness, I've never seen a campaign step on more rakes than Donald Trump has in the past two weeks.
I mean that sincerely, because you think about his final argument, right?
You're as a gift there, right?
You have a gift there where you can, I agree with you.
I mean, I don't agree with it, but cynically, go to the border.
Talk about the economy, right?
Pretend you're a unifier.
What does he do?
Calls liberals sick?
Evil people?
Absolutely horrible, right?
A person he has a chance.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Fascists.
Wait, wait, wait.
Nazis.
None on the dishbacks.
Imagine those poor people.
And I'm looking at Mr. Trump's bad as a message.
I will take out their English bazaar.
You said liberals are all nice.
I will say this, and thank you for bringing my post.
I'm not Michelle Obama.
Michelle Obama said famously, infamously, God bless her, when they go low, we go high.
I say, and I've always said, when they go low, you take out their knees, which is a legal UFC move.
And I believe.
Legal.
No, no, no.
You take out their knees.
Wait, wait, wait.
Legal UFC move.
You take out their knees.
When they go low, take out their knees.
And by the way, calling the American people evil, stupid, garbage, right?
These are all absolute scum.
These are all Donald Trump's words he has used in the past two weeks.
Final thing I'll say.
Last two weeks, your pitch to America.
Unify the people.
Bring the independence.
You know what he says?
I'm going to unleash the military and National Guard to my critics who are the enemy from within.
Who used the word enemy from within?
Francesca.
Oh, we're doing this again.
Hitler and this again.
Oh, we're back to Wydolf Hitler.
Katie, let me ask you about Mark Cuban.
All facts, by the way.
Mark Cuban said, you never see Trump around strong, intelligent women.
Yeah.
You've been around Trump.
Last time I checked, you're a strong, intelligent woman.
Thank you very much.
I thought it was such a patronizing thing to say.
It's not true.
And if you have to lob that accusation, you're clearly desperate and looking for things to make an argument on when you don't have the facts or the data to back up your argument.
I covered the Trump White House.
Whenever you walked into the West Wing, it was teeming with women at the highest level, senior advisors, also working moms.
So the left says they care a lot about working women, except for when it comes to conservative women.
This is a pattern that they have with attacking conservative women.
And they don't like it when they are batting for the Trump team, for conservatives, for Republicans, when they oppose their ideas based on the facts and policy.
They just want to say that they're stupid and unknown.
That's teaming with women.
Jeffrey Epstein's island that Donald Trump went to multiple times on Lady Express.
And in fact, had a very close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein for the presidential election as a campaign manager was Kellyanne Conway.
And now you have Susie Wiles, co-chair of his second campaign this time around.
There are plenty of strong, intelligent women around him.
And unlike the left, they don't expect to get credit for being women.
They're just doing their job and doing what would be the right thing.
Francesca, here's the thing.
You know, you guys talk about the violent rhetoric that comes out of Trump's mouth.
And some of it is very ill-advised, or sometimes it's plain ugly.
I didn't like what he said about shooting over the media to get at him.
That was yesterday.
I know.
You don't need to say that, Donald.
Don't say it.
I think it's unhelpful.
And don't make people hate the media.
They're doing their jobs.
You may not like it, but it's part of the job.
It's my view as a media person, right?
But then, you know, just when you really want him to pop up again, there's old Biden, old sleepy Joe, saying he wants to, they said the kind of guys like Trump and MAGA are the kind of guys you want to smack in the ass.
He's a president of the United States.
Oh, God, he has to be aware of that.
Advocating physical violence against tens of millions of Americans.
Is that advisable either?
I don't know.
Tucker Carlson did say that sometimes daddy needs to come home and give you a good spanking.
So maybe he's just speaking to what Tucker or the Prime Minister of the United States is.
Tucker is a president of the United States.
The Democrat president of the United States is advocating physical violence against tens of millions of Americans.
I will not say that.
I simply ask, is that helpful?
No, it's not.
But here's what I will say.
I have a point of agreement.
I like Trump's bold ideas, abolishing the Department of Education so rural areas can't get access to schools and teacher shortages.
I think that's great.
I also really educated people.
RSP doing a good job.
RSK Jr. and the head of the CDC.
Look, I've always said, let's make polio great again.
I feel like all these woke DEI vaccines have taken away things like measles.
Do you agree with time to bring it back?
Do you agree with mass deportation of illegal immigrants?
No, I do not.
Really?
Why did you let Obama deport 3 million then?
I protested all of those years.
Really, Mr. Lincoln.
He said he did deport in the middle of the middle.
So he's despicable, Obama, right?
For doing those actions?
Absolutely.
Despicable.
Yes.
Someone's will agree that Democrat presidents are despicable.
They can absolutely do despicable things.
Despicable, what Obama did?
Deporter-in-chief, yeah.
I thought it was a terrible policy.
I thought it was terrible.
By far, pro-Rats, more than anything Trump ever did.
Does he get enough credit from the right for doing it?
Who likes those policies?
You ask them.
I'm just simply saying you think he's despicable.
I think that aspect of his presidency is despicable.
And I'll also say this.
I do not treat politicians and my kings and queens and emperors.
I don't bend the knees.
I think what Donald Trump does.
He's got them off on the knees.
No, no, no.
Legal, it's a knee bar.
It's a knee bar.
UFC for the broke.
I'm not the one.
Listen, in all seriousness, the other reason why he's going to lose tomorrow, in addition to enraging women, is people have not forgotten Pierce, January 6th.
They have not forgotten the violent insurrection.
Yesterday, Donald Trump, when I said, in all seriousness, when I said he has stepped on so many rakes, yesterday, what did he say?
I should have never stepped down.
People remember the January 6th violent insurrection.
People remember MAGA supporters defecating in the Capitol.
People remember to this day, this man has refused to concede that he lost.
You know what I saw?
People remember.
You know what?
I saw my city being burned down.
I know you're Gish galloping.
Let me just finish.
I've watched that.
There's two things that there's two things.
And this is why Republicans are painting a corner, right?
I feel bad for them.
The people have come out and defend Trump.
There's two things they can't defend.
January 6th, Roe v. Wade.
Those are two galvanizing factors, which is why I believe Kamala Harris, I'm going to say it in front of the camera, is going to win tomorrow.
And if I'm wrong, he's buying me halal crow, which I will eat on your side.
I am.
All right, Katie.
Halal Crow.
It's amazing how the left gets to cherry picks the political violence on January 6th.
It was roundly condemned by the right.
Not by Donald Trump.
And previously, the left was willing to allow people out of their COVID restrictions in the summer when they were firing people and not allowing people to go see their grandmothers in their nursing homes when they were dying.
I don't want to interrupt.
But you are interrupting me.
No, but you're bringing up two ridiculous points.
I'll tell you to finish.
Why did January 6th happen?
Hang on.
Sorry, Kenya.
These are the most violent political riots in the history of America.
Dozens of people killed, businesses destroyed, cities completely hollowed out, and they still have not recovered.
When was that?
And yet, in the summer of 2020.
And when President Trump tried to do something about it, the left protested and said these people have the, they're doing it for the right political reason, and therefore it's allowed.
And so if we want to talk about political violence and the toll it's taken on the country, we can.
But that's not the issue that's happening today right now.
It's interesting that Washington, D.C. has been boarded up yet again.
And it's not because if Trump wins, or if Kamala Harris wins, there will be riots.
It's if Trump wins.
And they started this the day of his inauguration when they burned down the cities, when they torched a limousine that was owned by an immigrant working in the city.
So the political violence is justified so long as it's coming for the right reason, according to the left.
But then they just want to focus on January 6th and not condemn their own.
You don't have to do this.
Can I just say this?
This is going to be...
This is for posterity.
I'm just offering.
You don't have to do that.
This is for posterity.
I appreciate that.
You know, it's something about integrity, something about honesty, something about you actually having some credibility.
You just said that on television.
It's going to be there forever.
So do you really want to go down that road and talk about it?
What are you doing?
No, I'm trying to help you.
January 6th, Donald Trump.
No, I'm just offering.
I'm not like Donald Trump.
I'm not going to participate even if you don't like it.
I'm not Trump.
I'm not going to host the show.
I'm going to answer all his questions.
But I don't need you talking down to me about what I'm going to do.
I'm not Donald Trump.
I don't talk down.
I don't grab women by the tail.
Let me ask you this.
I'm just saying that just to appease to Trump and the Republican Party, I've seen Republicans.
When I was at CNN, Pierce, like you back in the day, in the green room, I will share with the people.
There were people I used to debate with, right?
Republicans, right?
They told me in the green room, I don't know if they've told this to you, I hate Trump.
I can't stand him.
Then we get in front of the camera because their bread is buttered by the right wing.
You know, it is what it is.
They used to go on with the straight face, contorting their face.
Allison Stewart, who passed away, who was very lovely.
That's so nice of you to bring her up, even though she can't defend herself.
She's the one.
She literally was the one I used to defend all of this.
I'll say this, Pierce.
Look, every single Republican that you saw me debate on CNN, except two.
Paris Denard was a true believer in the green room.
He was the only one, actually.
And also Jeffrey Lord.
Every single other person in the green room said, I can't stand this guy, but I got to go support him.
Oh, also, guess who?
Ben Shapiro.
Look at all the tweets.
I'm just like someone to vote.
Ted Cruz.
John Harris called Biden a racist and then Ted Cruz.
So that's what I'm saying.
But Francesca, let me ask you a question about this.
What if you lose?
Because last time, nearly 10 million more Americans voted for Trump than the first time around, despite four years of apparently the worst presidency in history.
If this trend continues now and he gets enough to get himself over the line, perhaps even wins a popular vote in some of the polls showing he might.
What are you going to do for the next four years?
He's literally the new Hitler, you think.
So literally, is that the end of the year?
I don't think he's the new Hitler, but I will.
Is it at the end of America?
In all seriousness, no.
But I do think it is quite alarming when the Supreme Court has given immunity, presidential immunity, to obviously Biden now, but also Donald Trump, and specifically in the case of whether Trump's actions on January 6th rose above the law, effectively, and it was okay for him to be able to do it.
At the moment, the only crime that you've managed to successfully get Trump convicted of is shuffling.
Not you, the left, is shuffling a bit of paperwork over an alleged one-night stand with a porn star 19 years ago.
Sorry, I don't look at this and go, is that it?
Pierce, that's 20 minutes.
24 jury members in two separate cases found him guilty both of sexual abuse and yes, of falsifying business records.
Now here's what I want to say in all seriousness and and i'm serious, i'm just saying, you don't go off to build.
This is not a bit, this is not a bit changed and pays Paula Jones 800 billion.
Hang on, let me just respond to what you're saying.
In the next four years yeah, what will you do if you're a few months guys, I truly think and I I say this in like legit seriousness I do think these are dangerous times and I think that, no matter who wins, we are going to see definitely, street protests, which I support as long as they are peaceful on either side.
If it's the right, absolutely everyone has the right to exercise their first amendment rights like just point blank.
But obviously I am very concerned, especially at state election boards where a lot of um, a lot of right wingers have been poised to contest the election on a local level, on a statewide level, at outside of their election board.
You don't think the Democrats have lawyers lined up.
If in, if they narrowly lose, they do.
They do have lawyers to contest.
If they're not, the Democrats will have just as many lawyers ready and waiting.
If Trump edges this narrowly, trying to cares, no power to try and prove that he's not going to be able to armed people.
Incumbent upon you to try and simmer down some of this rhetoric if and it's really just when it all goes off the rails and I think there's a responsibility that this show has to actually temper some of that, because we're going to see a lot of I hate the violent rhetoric on both sides.
I hate the violence on both sides.
I understand, i'm just making sure that you take it seriously, but I would say I would say you mentioned Carma And Carrots.
Right about whipping up a certain sentiment amongst people.
Carmine Harris's tweet about Jesse Smollette being lynched is still there.
She's never deleted.
That's the point.
Here's the goalpost.
Let's move.
Well actually no, this is the woman who may be, this is a woman who may be president of the United States literally within a few days.
Right, and she, she's allowed a tweet, which is an absolute lie, about a fantasist, a self self-aggrandizing fantasist, who wanted to improve his standing by inventing a lynching from magazine.
No no, i'm just saying her tweet about him is still up there.
Should she delete that tweet?
So I will say this.
I will answer all that.
If that tweet is up there, I don't know about it.
She should delete it.
Thank you.
Evidence of Dictatorship Failure 00:06:04
Number two, I think Donald Trump has to accept he lost the 2020 election.
I agree.
I think he has to accept he did lose it he.
He did lose it he's.
He's been asked repeatedly, will you accept if you lose 2024?
He's refused to answer it.
And what I will say with utmost seriousness, this isn't Mitt Romney.
This isn't John Mcain, this isn't George W Bush.
Right, the way there were Republicans, there were Republicans.
There's a reason why Mitt Romney, John McCain, their families are not supporting Donald Trump.
Mitt Romney has to spend his personal money, folks, for security detail for his family.
Do you know who he said the threat is from?
Not liberals, not Kamal Harris supporters, MAGA.
So this is where we are.
I think Donald Trump is a singular threat to this country.
He's on the left all the time.
And I think he's bad for Republicans.
And I think he's bad for Republicans.
And yet, oddly with Jaya.
Oddly.
Hang on.
Oddly, until January 6th, which I thought was disgusting.
Good.
And I do think that Trump has to hold responsibility for the rest of the news that day, okay?
But until that moment, actually, in his four years as president, oddly, there wasn't all this mass violence that you all fear is going to happen.
It actually wasn't that dangerous.
He didn't declare war anywhere.
He actually killed the leader of ISIS.
He killed one of the top right commanders.
He didn't go and invade anywhere like the Democrats love to do when they're presidents, right?
And he also, none of the kind of apocalyptic warnings about Trump were true.
The best thing you could come up with was that he had this Muslim ban.
Well, he banned people from coming in from seven countries that had been on Obama's own banned list of people coming into the country.
So my point is that all the apocalyptic warnings about Trump did not manifest themselves in his first presidency.
Two things happened.
January 6th is an outlier to that, and I thought it was disgusting.
And absolutely, the transfer of power must be peaceful and it must happen.
But until that point, I looked at it.
Where is this great fascist dictator?
Can I say one quick thing?
COVID happens.
People forget.
Over 500,000 Americans died during Donald Trump's presidency.
What we found out from Bob Woodward's quote, and Donald Trump has quoted, is he knew it was a threat, Pierce.
He lied about it to downplay it because he knew it would hurt him in the elections.
So even though he knew it was a risk, he told America what open up.
What should he have done?
Been honest with people, promote the science, actually help get the people.
What do you think he should have done?
Be honest with people.
But what should he have done?
Done.
What I'm telling you, be honest with people.
No, what should he have actually done that he didn't do?
He should have invoked the Defense Production Act to get the PPP in the hands of healthcare professionals.
Actually, America, globally, America has a very good record on PPE in the pandemic, particularly compared to the power of the people.
More people, which was a total of 10 years ago, more people died in America than in any other country.
There was a promotion of anti-vaccine and anti-science conspiracy.
He knew the truth.
He lied to people.
He told people to inject bleach.
I'm not sure.
That's terrible.
Inject bleach.
And also, that was terrible.
And also, listen, he gave the type of equipment before to the American people.
Who did he give the equipment to?
Who did he give it to?
North American people.
He sold it.
Putin.
Yes.
Dutch sold it.
He gave it.
All right, let me bring Katie.
Let me bring Katie.
Let me bring Kat in for us to move.
Like Katie responded.
Donald Trump proposed a ban from China, flying people in from China.
He was met with great resistance from Nancy Pelosi, who went down to Chinatown in San Francisco and said he was being racist and xenophobic and he shouldn't shut the country down.
Bill de Blasio in New York City did the exact same thing.
So that was the first thing.
There are more people who died from COVID under Joe Biden's presidency than Donald Trump's presidency.
If we want to detach the manuquomo, the last time I fought with the Democrats, the Democrats didn't want to open up the country, causing severe generational gaps with education.
They forced people to take a vaccine, which we all then learned from the CDC wasn't actually going to prevent the disease, fired people over it.
And so to be able to do that, Kobe, to me, yeah, look, I would say this.
I don't disagree with, look, you both make a good point.
I think we're kind of done with COVID, right?
I think, Francesca, my question for you would be this: where was the evidence in those four years of the dictator fascist dictator that you all want us to now believe is about to be potentially re-elected?
I don't want to believe that, obviously, but you look at some of the plans under, let's say, Project 2024.
What did he do first time?
Can I explain that?
Okay, let me just explain.
Okay, so let me just tell you.
So remember in 2020, as a lot of people on the right think, they were nothing but riots, people protesting the murder of an innocent man, George Floyd, right?
He was, obviously, his murderer was found guilty, and people took to the streets on it.
They committed acts of appalling violence and people died.
Some of them were swiped.
So do you know what was happening in Titan?
Do you know what was happening in the world?
Just working on it.
The overwhelming majority of those people were.
They were massive.
They were massive.
Let me explain why it's included.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let me just get my sentence out before and finish it.
In places like Portland, that I know everyone thinks is just a wild bastion of lawlessness.
However, there were federal agents in unmarked cars lifting protesters off of the streets and arresting them.
That was under Donald Trump.
There was a man.
His name was Michael Reinhold.
He did.
What about the violence?
Hang on, hang on.
What about the violence?
He did kill the violence.
Let me finish my sentence.
What about setting fire to buildings?
She was about to kill him.
So he was killed by a federal agent and never saw his time in court, unlike Kyle Rittenhouse, who did get a fair shake in court.
And I'm telling you because the federal peers, if you're not asking a question and not listen to me, his name was Michael Reinhold.
He was killed by federal agents because he killed someone from the Patriot Prayer.
Instead of seeing his day in court the way Kyle Rittenhouse did, they took him and Samaritan.
That's called extrajudicial torture.
I'm going to drag it down.
On the War and Peace, he increased drone strikes by 400% in the Middle East.
You know, the biggest drone guy of all time, Barack Obama.
Can you shut up and let me finish arresting?
You're so violent.
You asked me a question and these are the same.
No, no, no, but you answered for about 20 minutes.
I want to die.
No, no, no, no.
Kamala Losing White Men 00:08:23
I want to drag us to 2020.
He has to have bombs on Afghanistan and he increased the war on Yemen.
Obama dropped the most bombs of any president in one candidate.
Well, you're wrong.
You're spouting nonsense.
But, Piers, you can't.
Obama dropped the most bombs.
He ran the most illegal drone programs.
He defaulted most illegal agents.
Is it heavy?
Is it heavy?
What?
Just all the water that you carry for.
It's just a silly argument.
Just put it down.
I like criticizing both these sites.
I know you do.
I know you don't.
Hang on.
Ashley, let me bring you to 2024 if I can.
Thank you.
We've had a little bit of a regression back into the past.
Ashley.
You ask a question and you don't want to hear the answer.
Oh, Ashley's getting a question.
Okay, I'll shut up.
Ashley, if Trump loses tomorrow, what do you think the reason will be?
Because not enough men turned out to vote.
Men are a particularly disenfranchised demographic.
10 million less men vote than women every year.
And I think for whatever reason, we really haven't made a good appeal to men, particularly, to vote.
Kamala Harris knows this as well.
I noticed when I was driving through Pennsylvania, for the first time, white men were back in advertising and they were on the Kamala Harris billboards.
But I do believe it would be because we did not turn out enough of the male vote.
And I think that's it.
I think people are hurting.
I think people know that they were better off when Trump was in office.
I think they know what has happened at our southern border is a disaster.
And we're not really going to have a country or much of the West if this continues.
And conversely, if Trump was to win, why would you think he'd win?
Because of the economy and immigration.
I think not only here, but across the West in Europe, they're also seeing the devastating effects of immigration.
It is also a women's rights issue.
We're seeing sexual assaults increase rapidly across Europe because of the illegal immigration coming across, because of the mass amount of people that are being imported from other countries, from countries who don't have a concept of what that is, of what rape is.
So I really think it's going to be the economy, immigration.
I think that's going to win a moment.
Same question as you're quite an interesting way of looking at it.
If Kamala loses, why do you think she'll lose?
She's going to win the popular vote.
She'll only lose to the Electoral College, probably Pennsylvania.
I don't think she will.
And it'll probably be because just what happened in 2016 with Donald Trump, he won by mustache hair, about 40,000 votes across three states.
He had a whisker.
A whisker, yeah.
Oh, that was 2020.
Yeah, 2016, a whisker.
I believe she's got the independence.
If you look at the early data, early voting, early polls, momentum, independents are breaking for her.
Latinos are pissed as of the last two weeks.
I wasn't trying to be cheeky when I said he's a lot of people.
But a lot more Latinos are currently polling voting for Trump than did last year.
Yeah, and black Americans.
Yeah, but wait, wait, wait.
Like we said last time on your show, my prediction, let's find out on Tuesday night, is those numbers will regress to the medium.
She'll get the numbers of black voters, black male voters, Latino male voters.
I know Republicans want those male voters to come out.
I don't think they will.
If she wins, which I think she will, it will be due to women, independents, young people, people of color.
And also, what's fascinating in Iowa, in some of these swing states, is she's winning more white men than Biden did.
I think people are sick and tired of Donald Trump.
I think he's the oldest person.
He's a criminal.
Well, a lot of people are.
A lot of people are.
But I think he's been on for nine years.
You know, I feel like there's something about, you know, people talk about feelings, emotions, and elections.
They see Kamala like something different.
Here's the thing.
Something different to the woman for four years.
But that's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Very Indian woman.
It's very hard to position yourself as the change candidate when you are the vice president of an administration.
Female presidents.
Hang on, hang on.
Katie, for you.
If Trump was to lose, what would you say would be the reason why?
I would say the ground game for the Democrats has been more organized and better structured in the places where they need it the most.
And Kamala Harris has had the benefit of having a short-term campaign and a lot of money.
So she's been able to not be out there explaining what her exact positions are, keeping things very vague because the time period has been very truncated.
She's able to do a message to Michigan voters that is quite different than a message she's done with Pennsylvania voters and get away with it because there's not as much time for her to be vetted over the course of a year in a normal election.
So that's what I would say about that.
And if Trump wins, why?
People are easily comparing and tying Kamala Harris to Joe Biden as the incumbent.
There's a reason why she hasn't fully endorsed Joe Biden's economic policies because people are dying from inflation.
Things are way too expensive.
And they see her as four more years of the previous policies, especially since she's been asked repeatedly what you would do differently, and she can't say a single thing when it comes to what she would distance herself with Joe Biden on the economy.
So the economy, illegal immigration, and it's just an easy comparison.
You know, Trump's first presidency was not that long ago.
People compare it to the last four years.
That's what he's probably going to win.
Francesca, for you, if Kamala, the unthinkable happens.
So Kamala was not to win by a landslide and loses.
Why?
I think that I think fear sells, sadly.
And I think that sometimes I think, sadly, Trump will have control of the money.
Do you think she's been spewing fear about Trump?
Bruh, let me answer a question.
Sis, do you not think that the fear's been coming mainly from their end?
No.
That he's the new Hitler, new fascist, the world's going to end.
Let's talk about Epstein.
You haven't asked me about Epstein.
Let's talk about it.
I'm talking about Epstein.
I don't give a damn.
Apparently, they shared girlfriends.
Michael Wolfe said there's naked photos of Trump with underage girls, and apparently there was a stain on Trump's pants.
Was that in Epstein's vault?
Do you think that was in Epstein's vault when Trump's FBI rated Epstein's voice?
If Kamala loses, why would she lose?
What was in Trump?
Otherwise, you won't get a chance.
You're interrupting me all this time.
But don't talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
Sorry.
Well, I wasn't talking about Epstein.
Then you interrupted me, sir.
Right.
Can you answer my question?
So, if she loses, why?
When I come on your podcast, you can ask me about Jeffrey Epstein as much as you like.
But now, let's talk about Epstein.
If Kamala loses, why?
I think she will have lost because she, I think, cut the progressive base out from under her.
I think Joe Biden in 2020 actually made a lot of overtures to the Bernie Sanders base.
And I have not seen as much of outreach from Kamala Harris to the progressives and specifically Muslim American voters and anyone who does not want to see more bloodshed in the Middle East.
I think honestly that would be my answer.
And if she wins, why?
And if she wins, it's because we believe in health care for all people.
And that includes women and especially pregnant women who want to be parents, who want to have families, and who want to be safe in so doing.
But men can still play in women's sport, as far as you're concerned.
Nothing unfair or unsafe about that.
So there was a stain on his pants.
Isn't that disgusting?
Do you think there was a photo in the vault?
Your refusal to answer the question says it all.
Every time you talk about trans athletes, I'm going to tell you about Epstein.
That's fine.
You talk about Epstein as much as you like.
And you can talk about trans athletes as much as you like.
This is a disgusting thing.
Trans athletes are good friends.
They were good friends.
Let me just try and look.
Trans athletes tomorrow.
And female athletes aren't dying.
Are you all American citizens?
Yes.
So it's a big day for America tomorrow, a big day for American citizens.
I'm not an American citizen.
I have a home here, but I'm not a citizen.
I would like to end on a moment where we all come together.
Do we all think?
And we wish each other a happy election day.
And may democracy be the winner.
Can we all agree on that?
A lot of people.
I was expecting you.
I can't even get agreement on that.
We are a republic, not a democracy.
I appreciate your sentiment for election vice.
You're a Democratic president.
So can I say this?
If Kamala Harris loses, I will accept that she loses.
I will not incite a violent insurrection.
I will not promote lies.
And I will do whatever I can in the next four years as an American citizen, peacefully, like I've always done my entire life, to resist what I think is an authoritarian Trump administration.
No, no, no.
I think it'll be terrible for our freedoms.
I think it'll be terrible for the economy, for the healthcare.
I think it will really hurt Trump voters, middle-class, low-income white men.
You know, my prediction, if Trump wins, he won't be as bad as you lot fear, and he won't be as good as he'd like us to believe.
And that is the reality of what I suspect will happen a bit like his first term.
Thank you to my panel.
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