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March 4, 2024 - Uncensored - Piers Morgan
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War's Impact on Marriage 00:03:29
18 months ago I travelled to Warsaw and Kyiv to interview Ukraine's President Zelensky and the First Lady Elena Zelenska.
Their country was fighting a bitter war for its freedom.
Against all odds they protected their resolve and their relationship.
These kind of situations they can make or break a marriage.
Is your marriage stronger do you think?
Marriage gets stronger with challenges.
I want this challenge to make us more united.
And after two years of war international support is fading.
What's your message to the politicians in America?
Every hour that they hesitate, people are dying.
President Biden is doing enough, do you think?
Some people think Ukraine should do a peace deal.
What's your message to Putin?
As a Ukrainian, as a mother, as a wife, how do you feel about what's happening in Gaza?
As a mother, I feel that we adults are to blame.
We owe these children.
Zelensky is paying for mistakes he's made.
He's been accused of corruption, of being an autocrat.
What's your response to that?
Donald Trump, he says he could end this war in 24 hours.
I don't think that anyone can end this war in 24 hours, except Putin.
First Lady, Elena Zelenska, returns to uncensored.
First Lady, it's lovely to see you again.
Last time I saw you was just four months after the war began in 2022 and I came to Kyiv, interviewed you and your husband, the President.
How has your life been since then?
How are you?
It's interesting because I felt like we met more recently, not so long ago.
And now it seems like it was four months after the start of the war, large-scale invasion, but my feeling was that not so much time has passed.
So from this feeling, I can understand that for us, time stopped in some way.
In one way, things are happening very quickly.
Things are happening.
Things are changing.
But at the same time, we feel that time is static.
But I don't think that in my life something has changed significantly.
We are still living in the same mood as four months after the start of the large-scale war.
The thing about war is it's relentless.
It never stops.
It must be, apart from anything else, it must be exhausting.
How do you keep your energy?
Yes, it is.
It's difficult.
It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.
You have to maintain your energy at a level, at some level.
And sometimes I compare this state, sometimes on a smartphone, when the battery is down, it's running out, and you have an opportunity to charge it somewhere to make sure that you stay online.
You do it.
And you don't have an opportunity to fully charge your battery.
You can't get distracted from the war.
You can't forget even for an hour about the war.
Meeting the Queen 00:10:09
Go on holiday for a week, away from the war.
You're constantly in this state and you cannot fully recharge ever.
But this objective is to have enough energy, enough peace to continue living, continue to carry on with life.
It's a job.
It's another job for us For all of these months and now, unfortunately, two years.
You've come to London and you've had a very busy few days.
You met the Queen, Queen Camilla, our new Queen.
You were at the coronation, of course, for her and the King.
How was your meeting with our Queen?
I'm very happy to confess that it is not the first time we meet.
And every time our meetings are very nice.
It was a great privilege to meet Her Majesty with Her Majesty yesterday.
And we passed our greetings to His Majesty as well and our best wishes for his health from the President of Ukraine and from the Ukrainian nation.
We were moved by his address to the Ukrainian nation on the second anniversary of the large-scale invasion.
We really feel the support from the royal family and through them also the support from the British nation.
This is really an indicator of unity of the state and the public.
And I also had a very good meeting with my friend Akshata Mutay, the wife of the Prime Minister.
We always have very warm meetings.
There is always something to talk about and not only the things that unite us as first ladies, such as mental health projects, etc., but we can also talk about our families, about our children.
We can give each other small gifts.
And that yesterday was another very nice, very warm meeting.
And I have to say, once again, thank you to the British people, that every step I make here, starting with the royal family and all the people that I meet here, we feel your support.
It's sincere, it's warm.
And it's not just a declaration, it's a feeling of sincere and powerful support.
And it really inspires us.
Every visit means large numbers of meetings.
It's all very complicated.
But every time I come back from London, I feel inspired just as if I had a holiday, as if I recharged my batteries.
And so once again, thank you.
I was very surprised, I had many surprises over these three days.
The king obviously sadly has cancer and the queen is continuing to perform her duties.
You're somebody who has had to continue getting out of bed and going to work for your country.
Did you feel an affinity with her, that she's now doing the same with her husband, obviously, quite seriously ill?
I think it would be difficult to compare our activities.
But I guess I could compare a president is elected by the public.
The wife of the president is not elected.
It's not an official position.
You're not authorized.
You don't have any competences or administrative competencies.
But there are expectations from the public, and you feel that, and you have to rise to those expectations.
And in this sense, I guess there is an affinity because I understand that Her Majesty can breathe the same air with the British people.
And she told me yesterday how many letters she's getting addressed to His Majesty.
And she tries to respond to most of them.
And it was very good to hear that many Ukrainians wrote words of support to His Majesty because of his health.
And she also tries to answer these letters.
I also know that the royal family visits Ukrainian centers where Ukrainian people attend.
And actually, I took part myself in one of these visits.
I was very happy to do it.
And it's very good to know that we have very sincere and powerful friends here in the person of the royal family.
Another of your friends is Catherine, the Princess of Wales.
She's also been through some health problems.
She was hospitalized and is now having time out from duties.
Did you have a chance to have a conversation with her, to call her?
Unfortunately, no.
I think I wasn't trying to do that.
I know that the princess needs rest.
And I know she has very active, very active social calendar, and she needs a pause.
I hope she will have time for this, and I'm not going to disturb her on this occasion.
But I'm sure she knows we support her and we wish her all the best as well.
The late Queen Elizabeth was very, I think, very forthright in her support for Ukraine.
And I remember you saying that Ukrainian children would write to the Queen and she would reply, which you found extraordinary, but that was part of her magic, of course.
What are your thoughts about the late Queen?
I think that in general, the standard for support of Ukraine was set by the leadership of Queen Elizabeth II.
In every process of support, there needs to be a leader, a person who will set an example, and then everyone who cares will follow this example.
And if there had not been such a leader, I guess the response from the public would not have been as powerful or would have been slower.
So we are grateful.
We remember those times very warmly.
And for us, it's a very important historic figure, I think, for the whole world as well.
Princess of Wales and the Prince of Wales, they went to the Ukrainian Cultural Centre in London very soon after the war started.
How important was that to you?
You know, those were shocking days at the start of the large-scale invasion in the first weeks and months.
Every sign of support was very important to us for us to understand that we were not alone in this tragedy.
And I don't know what would have happened if we hadn't seen signs like that, actions like that, from other societies, other countries, and leaders.
I think we would have been more lost and disoriented.
I think people now in the world talk a lot about Ukrainian resilience and the way we were coping in the first days.
But this resilience, I can say, also depended on this support from the outside.
So we are very grateful for this and we don't forget this.
We Not want to make similar signs, to send similar signs in response.
We hope no other country will face this kind of tragedy and would need that kind of support, but we would be prepared to give it in response because we are sincerely grateful.
When you were at number 10 Downing Street with Akshatamurti, you heard a rendition of the Ukrainian national anthem performed by the Royal Opera House Songs for Ukraine chorus.
And these are Ukrainian singers who, of course, been affected by the war.
You look very moved.
You were quite emotional when you heard that.
Did it mean a lot to you to hear that?
It was extremely nice.
It was a very pleasant meeting.
And it was very good to see our people who have not only found shelter but support also in London.
And that they found an opportunity to do what they were used to doing.
And they were used to singing there, their singers.
But also I was moved by the quality of the singing of our national anthem.
And the second song was Prayer for Ukraine.
It's a very popular piece.
Very professional and extremely well rendered.
I travel a lot and I meet a lot of musical groups.
And sometimes I have a feeling.
Thank you for...
I feel like thank you for singing, but you could do a better job perhaps.
But yesterday, I really had a very pleasurable experience.
I really enjoyed the way they did it.
It was very talented.
Of course, a lot depends on the director, but they were so inspired that I was moved by their performance.
And I thank Akshato for organizing this meeting.
Hosting Ukrainians in Britain 00:06:48
More than 200,000 Ukrainians have been over in the UK staying with British families.
It's a huge number of people.
Are you very grateful to the British families who've taken in Ukrainians?
I'm not just grateful.
Sometimes I'm sincerely surprised at how noble, what a noble thing it is to do, a worthy thing to take someone in, a stranger, into your home.
Especially when I speak to our refugees and they tell me their stories and how they were welcomed and how they have become friends with the British people who are looking after them.
It's very good to hear.
It's great.
I think it's a unique story.
Because it's very British, a very British thing that so many people are taking other people into their homes, into their families, not just allow them to take a space or give them some help or provide some support.
No, they've taken these people in into their homes.
I think that's a unique British thing.
How is your family?
Because your daughter's 19 now, your son is 11.
These are very difficult ages for children anyway.
But to have to grow up with their father running the country in a war and their mother obviously doing everything she can too.
How are they, your children?
It would not be right to complain and to say that I regret something because the situation for our family is not that different from other families in Ukraine.
The majority of families are not.
Now somebody's at the front line, somebody's abroad, many people have gone abroad.
Many families have parted.
But it's painful for me that they're losing these years of childhood.
It could have been, this childhood could have been filled with memorable events, travel, studies, development.
And instead, we try to maintain as normal a life as possible.
Our children are studying.
My daughter is now a second-year university student.
She has friends.
My son attends school.
But of course, it's difficult when you can't plan anything for your children.
You can't dream together with them.
Over these two years, we have planned a lot of things and we would have actually would have done these things with them so that we could fill their lives with positive emotions.
So everything is on pause.
No holidays, no rest.
Everyone thinks about the war.
My son talks constantly.
Well, it's very difficult to explain this to all children and to my own children.
When your child asks you, when will the war be over?
When will it be over?
Can you tell me?
There is no answer.
Nobody has this answer.
So it is difficult.
However, we are happy that he can actually attend school and we are happy that he has a shelter in his school, which unfortunately is not the case for every school in Ukraine.
It's a huge problem because our emergency, national emergency service, does not allow for school attendance unless there is a shelter in case of an air alert.
And around one-third of children in Ukraine study only online.
For two years, for two years, these children have not attended school for even one day.
They've only seen their teachers on the screen of their smartphone or their notebook.
So I'm not going to complain.
But of course, we all want for this horrible time in our lives to be over.
And so it would be just a period in the past and not something that would have changed our lives forever.
And we all await for we all want this period to be over and we want to exit it in a normal psychological and physical state, but we need efforts for that.
And of course they've had to go through a pandemic before this.
So they've had years and years of a hellish life really.
How often can your children see your husband?
Are they able to see him regularly or not?
About once a week for a few hours we can meet.
Sometimes less frequently or when he has foreign visits.
And the same for you?
I can see him at the presidential office sometimes because I have my own office and sometimes I can call him and if he's not too busy I can go into his office and see him.
We can sometimes have lunch together but not too often.
Our calendars somehow don't coincide.
If he has time to talk to me I don't have time to talk to him.
And yesterday we couldn't telephone each other because he called me three times and I was in meetings.
Then I start calling him and then he's busy.
He can't answer.
So we have sort of parallel lives, but that's normal.
I spent some time this morning going through your Instagram feed because I was really curious about what you were saying at various stages.
And I found one for New Year's Eve, actually, I think it was, in 2022, so just before the war started.
And you said, in 2022, we sincerely wish near and dear ones health.
To everyone, the possibilities are limitless.
Self-confidence is on a daily basis.
Love is in every heart.
Good to all.
Make it a great year.
It's a very poignant message given that within a month your nation was at war.
There must be so many millions of Ukrainians whose hopes and dreams have been shattered.
Shattered Hopes and Dreams 00:04:01
Very hard to deal with.
I mean, you managed to keep a remarkable poise and cool, which is very admirable.
But do you have moments behind the scenes where sometimes you just get overwhelmed by what has happened to your country?
First of all, I would like you to understand, and it is our shared feeling in Ukraine of what is happening to us.
If you're a modern person in the 21st century, even if there is a threat hanging over you, you still preserve a hope that the world cannot be so awful as to let this tragedy happen to you.
The world needs to stop the aggressor before he invades.
But unfortunately, that didn't happen.
And it is a tragedy to live in this situation that we find ourselves in and to see casualties every day.
And you cannot switch off your emotions when you read another and another story.
And recently I was shaken by the tragedy of the story when the whole family was killed by a missile strike and a mother was killed together with her two sons.
One of them was younger than one year old.
They burnt alive.
These things don't allow you to be happy or calm ever.
There's no opportunity for that.
And there are some things that just finish you off.
This is the essence of these horrible things when you just start crying and sobbing.
Recently, there was a documentary made by one of our directors, and I was able to watch it to the end.
It consists fully of things that were filmed by people on their telephones at the start of the invasion.
Director is Anbadoyev, and it's called A Long Day.
I could not stand it for a very long time.
I was in tears.
I felt all of the emotions.
It was really powerful.
I will finish watching this film to the end, but I just didn't have enough emotional reserves to finish it.
The first time I couldn't.
There's another documentary, 20 Days in Mariupol, I think it's quite well known.
My daughter went to see it with her friend in a cinema at the premiere.
And her boyfriend is from Marupol and he and his parents had an opportunity to hide in the basement of their building for several weeks before they were able to flee.
And he saw with his own eyes the bodies of his neighbors that had been killed.
And I asked her, How did you take it?
And she said, I cried.
He cried also.
But also the rest of the people in the cinema cried.
So on the one hand, it's very difficult, but on the other hand, sometimes you need to let it out.
You need to cry.
All of the emotions that we accumulate every day.
Silence for Therapy 00:04:37
So I'm very grateful to the people who made these documentaries.
Because first of all, they tell the world about us.
And for us, it's a way of therapy, a way to let it go.
And we cannot do it all the time.
My job is to keep smiling, to keep talking to people, to inspire people.
Do I have the regardless of whether or not I have the energy for that?
So I try to keep my emotions inside.
And these things are a way for me to let go for at least a few minutes.
Your husband Vladimir said about you, he told Vogue magazine, she is my love, she is my greatest friend.
Elena really is my best friend.
She's also a patriot and she deeply loves Ukraine and she's an excellent mother.
That's a pretty good tribute.
I can only say thank you for your joy.
It's perhaps not the first time I hear this.
I'm fortunate he tells me this very often.
But we are really friends.
We are friends and I think that's the secret of our relationship.
We don't have a difficult time with each other.
We understand each other and we support each other.
It's not just the words, well done, keep working, I believe, in you.
No, we can make each other laugh when it's needed or perhaps we can tell each other get a grip, go get your job done.
So we feel each other, but it's very nice for me that he's so open with his feelings in talking to the media.
However, I don't need to hear it, and I know this.
You said about him in an Instagram post on his birthday, January 25th, 2022, again, just before the war began.
And you posted a picture of him smiling at you at a party.
And you captioned it.
I'm sure you're looking at me in this picture, because that's how you always look at me.
I wish every woman had these views.
So look only those who sincerely love.
I always feel your love.
As long as you look like that, I'm not afraid of anything.
Have a look.
Please take a look.
We still have a lot to go, so take care of yourself.
We have to realize everything we dream of together.
Happy birthday to my love.
I promise to look back at you just like that all the time.
Again, very poignant, given that within a month your whole lives were turned upside down.
I guess the most difficult time for us when we were separated.
He stayed in Kyiv and I had to go outside of Kyiv and spend several weeks outside of Kyiv.
And this is when I had the most horrible thoughts come to my head.
And I was thinking that perhaps we will never see each other again.
And what allowed me to hold on is that we still have a lot to do together that I want to do together.
And we still have to absolutely have to meet.
And that was a very sincere post.
It was a greeting for him.
This year I didn't post on his birthday because on that day very tragic things had happened.
And we agreed that I'm not going to wish him happy birthday publicly.
It wasn't the right time to talk about happy things.
I suggest that we stay silent on that day, and he understood that.
But I guess with every year, it's more and more difficult to come up with new things for me to say to him.
We have been together for so many years and sometimes you can just be silent, be quiet with each other if you can stay quiet with each other long enough.
I think I guess that's what we dream about.
Enough time to stay together, enough time not to rush anywhere, not to plan anything, not to worry about anything.
Finding Quiet Strength 00:02:38
It's a dream right now.
Not something extraordinary, just a quiet time together.
Do you worry about him and his mental health?
He seems in public such a strong mentality man.
He never stops.
He flies around the world.
He does everything he can for his country.
But you see him behind the scenes.
Does he have moments where even he, Vladimir Zelensky, needs you to keep him going?
Fortunately, he's not that different from the way he is in public and privately.
I think he is really somebody you can count on when you need to charge from his energy.
He is holding on well.
But it's not because I think it's his nature, his natural capacity.
I work a lot with the subject of mental health, and I understand that mental psychological resilience is different in different people.
There's just like general health, just like immunity, there are some natural capacity that people have that they can withstand without any damage to their mental health.
Of course, it's a very difficult time for him.
He gets very tired.
But he has his own ways to recharge.
Children always help.
He can have a silly time with them, to sing silly songs, laugh with them, and that also helps him to recharge.
He does sport and that's a huge help for him When he is so tense when your nerves are so tense that they're just about to give out, he will go and do a training session and he feels better.
He knows what to do.
It's just that there's not enough time to sleep sometimes.
Blame and War Fatigue 00:12:31
But that's also not something that can be resolved now.
I am sure he will withstand everything.
He has the capacity.
He's strong.
As often happens in war, the leader has come under more and more criticism.
His popularity numbers have fallen.
People, when they're feeling fearful, when their worlds are collapsing, they want someone to blame.
And many have started blaming Vladimir.
He's been accused of corruption, of being an autocrat.
The mayor of Kiev, Vitaly Klishka, says people are beginning to see who's effective and who's not.
Zelensky is paying for mistakes he's made.
At some point we will no longer be any different from Russia, where everything depends on the whim of one man.
What's your response to that?
I would very much like for the person who's responsible for everything would be somebody else, not my husband whom I love and respect.
But he is responsible for everything.
And he is being responsible.
He carries the responsibility.
He knows it and he is very responsible with his job.
Political struggle never stops, not even during the war.
That's how the world is, and I'm fine about this criticism.
Nobody's ever happy with everything, especially in a difficult time like this.
Of course, it is difficult for the people to carry this load of war.
Sometimes people see bad things happening and they're looking for someone to blame.
And I guess the easiest person to blame is the person who's responsible for everything.
So I'm fine with this criticism.
What I don't accept is total hatred, which is not based in facts, which also happens sometimes.
And I know that the aggressor will always stoke any kind of tension inside the country that would undermine our unity.
And a lot of resources is spent on this.
They use every opportunity, any message, any trend in the Ukrainian society to stoke the negative things.
And I understand the rules and I'm fine with this.
He will take any criticism.
For me, perhaps it's more difficult emotionally because I take offense sometimes, I get upset and he is very professional about it.
What is the most hurtful thing that people have said about your husband that really upsets you?
I guess I wouldn't rate these things.
All of these things are hurtful.
When it's been said about a person you love and respect, it's never nice.
But I don't think there's ever been anything that really shook me.
I think what's perceived the worst is something that looks like the truth.
About him, what's said is really fantastical things that don't look like the truth at all, so I'm fine.
Let me talk about Russia and Putin.
In his state of the nation address, he threatened the West again with nuclear weapons if they put boots on the ground.
in Ukraine.
He said to Tucker Carlson in his interview that he hasn't achieved his goals yet.
What's your message to Putin?
He clearly thinks he's going to beat you and win.
To be honest, I wouldn't even want to say this name to be honest, I'm not a part of this dialogue.
You know, previously, I don't know how it was in Britain before, but when we were children in the Soviet Union, sometimes children would write letters and put them in a time capsule or send them to space and then maybe somebody,
sometime an alien, will find this capsule and will read this message from these Soviet children from the 1970s.
It's the same thing.
Why would I write this message to nowhere?
Nobody will hear it.
Nobody will pay any attention.
It's just a gesture addressed to...
Some people think Ukraine should do a peace deal, should give up the land that Russia has taken.
What do you feel about that?
I think that President Zelensky gave a very clear answer at his level.
And it's not just his opinion as the leader and the president of our country.
It's an opinion.
It's an opinion that he expresses on behalf of our nation.
We are not prepared to make allowances.
We don't want this war to last for decades.
We understand that the aggressor does not stop when he receives what he wants.
He will continue moving further and further.
We don't want our children to still be fighting in this war and then our grandchildren.
We want to stop this now.
We will not stop this on their terms.
America at the moment is obviously crucial to Ukraine's defense and they're still holding up on the 60 billion dollars is still held up in Congress.
What's your message to the politicians in America about how vital that money is for you and why they should see it in America's national interest?
While decisions are being taken, people are dying and that's the worst thing that can happen.
I want them to feel that every hour that they hesitate, that they go to their offices, that they meet with their colleagues.
In Ukraine, people are dying and they do not have to be dying.
And that's the worst thing that is happening.
And I'm sure that the majority of people there wants to help Ukraine.
And we understand that there are internal political processes in the United States.
And we know they're complex, they're not simple.
And we are awaiting this decision.
But we really, really need it.
I'll give you an example.
Just for the civilian population, air defense saves lives everywhere in Ukraine.
Russia can reach with their missiles and their drones, they can reach any part of Ukraine.
And they're constantly doing this.
They want us to live in fear.
And yes, we know when we hear the siren of air raid, we go down to shelters.
But not every place in Ukraine has shelters.
And still, children in schools are dying.
Children in their homes are dying while sleeping.
And if we had enough air defense, we'd feel more resilient.
This is a matter of life and death.
And I would really like for those decision makers to understand it very profoundly.
It's not about money.
It's not about political point scoring.
It's about life.
Is President Biden doing enough, do you think, to get this money to you?
This is a very political question.
I cannot answer.
I cannot give you a clear answer.
I think that he's trying to do what he can.
But I think it's a question for the politicians.
Donald Trump, who may be president again, says he could end this war in 24 hours.
When you hear that, what do you think?
I don't think that anyone can end this war in 24 hours except Putin.
What's your message to Putin?
If he watches this interview, he might.
What's your message to him?
As a Ukrainian, as a mother, as a wife, what do you say to this guy?
I just don't know what this is for.
I could never understand this.
I do not understand any of the answers that he gives.
I do not understand it.
And I don't know how a normal person can live with this.
There have been hundreds of cases of Ukrainian women who've been raped and abused by Russian soldiers.
Over 20,000 Ukrainian children have been effectively kidnapped and taken out of the country.
There have been barbaric attacks on maternity units and whole cities razed to the ground and so on.
I went to Buka myself when I was over in Ukraine.
Devastating to hear the stories of what happened there.
These are all war crimes.
Should Putin be in an international court facing war crime charges?
Behind every crime, there is a person who carried out the crime and the person who commissioned the crime.
And we don't know every person that carried out the crime, but we definitely know who commissioned the crime, who ordered the crime.
And there needs to be punishment for every crime.
David Cameron, the Foreign Secretary here, who you met, he would like to see, as would Rishi Sunak, the transfer of Russian assets for the recovery of Ukraine.
I think you feel strongly that that would be a good thing.
I think this is fair.
Russia has to pay financially for the damage done to Ukraine, for the destruction of our infrastructure, for everything that had been built for decades.
And we understand that we may never see any financial compensation directly.
So it would be fair for these financial assets that Russia has in our partner countries to be frozen and to be spent on the renewal of our infrastructure.
Why shouldn't our partners help us to rebuild?
Why shouldn't it be the people who destroyed it?
Survival Amidst Global Tiredness 00:03:03
One of the big problems that Ukraine has at the moment is there's another war raging in the Middle East, Israel and Hamas, in Gaza, and it's taken a lot of media attention away from Ukraine.
It's led to a kind of war fatigue, people call it, about Ukraine.
How important is it that people who watch this interview understand that your war is still raging, unfinished, and it needs our attention?
You're quite right in saying a second war has started while the first one is still going on.
We need to understand that more wars can start in other places, but it doesn't mean that the war in Ukraine will stop.
And this fatigue from the war, well, of course, it's hurtful to hear for us.
Ukrainians are much more fatigued.
Ukrainians are tired, but we have to hold on because this is a matter of our survival.
If you're tired from the news, switch them off.
Don't get tired.
You are tired.
If you're tired, you're not our allies.
We could not allow you to get tired.
We cannot say, don't look at us, don't look at our suffering.
If you're tired, you're not our friends.
It's sad, but that's life.
And we are going to continue fighting for our lives, for the lives of our children, and we will not get tired doing this.
I know that after October the 7th, the devastating terror attack in Israel, you spoke to President Hersok's wife.
Obviously, since then, Israel has responded with great force.
And there is growing concern around the world about the number of civilian casualties, particularly children.
As a mother, how do you feel about what's happening in Gaza?
For me, civilian casualties are the worst from either side.
And I cannot judge the actions of either side, but when you see a killed child of any nationality, it's horrible and it's very painful.
As a mother, I feel that we adults are to blame.
We owe these children.
We owe them a life.
We owe them our childhood.
We, adults, collectively, cannot make sure that these children can be safe.
We should all feel ashamed.
First Odi, thank you very much indeed for your time.
I hope this war ends for you and your people, and I hope it ends soon.
And all our thoughts here in Britain are with you, and with your family, and with your people.
So thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
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