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July 26, 2022 - Uncensored - Piers Morgan
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Saving Kyiv From Destruction 00:15:41
I'm Piers Morgan, uncensored, in Kyiv, Ukraine.
Tonight, I sit down for a one-on-one interview with the two Klitschko brothers, both former world heavyweight boxing champions, now engaged in the fight of their lives to save their country.
Good evening, I'm Piers Morgan in Kyiv, Ukraine.
And tonight, I speak to two people who perhaps best exemplify the spirit, the fighting spirit of the people of Ukraine.
Vladimir and Vitaly Klitschko.
Both former world heavyweight boxing champions.
Two of the greatest fighters the world has seen.
But they're now involved in a fight for their lives.
Vitaly is the mayor of this city, Kyiv, and he's been leading the resistance here, a resistance which managed to repel the Russians when they first invaded.
His brother, Vladimir, has been on the front line fighting for his country.
They're extraordinary people, but you meet so many extraordinary people here in Kyiv.
They all have that same spirit.
They all want to drive out the Russians.
They all want to win this war for their country, for freedom and democracy.
And when you walk around Kyiv, you get a real sense of what they're fighting for.
This is like any other great European democratic city.
People walking around, enjoying restaurants, bars, cafes, great iconic monuments, art galleries and so on.
You could be in Paris, you could be in Rome, you could be in London.
The difference is that right now, this is a city under threat.
Just a few weeks ago, an apartment block was struck by cruise missiles fired by the Russians from the Caspian Sea, perhaps over a thousand miles away.
It killed some people, it wounded some people, and of course what that does is it makes the people of Kyiv feel tense, feel stressful, feel that perhaps the next time they hear an air raid siren, which go off two or three times a day, then it may be a missile heading for their apartment.
So this is no normal city and these are no normal people.
But tonight I sit down with the Klitschko brothers and it was one of the most heart-rending and powerful interviews I think I've ever done.
Vladimir Vitaly, thank you so much to both of you for seeing me today.
It's a great honor to come to Kyiv in Ukraine and to see you both here.
How tough have the last few months been for both of you?
Right now already 150 days.
I have a feeling it's one long, long, long day.
Non-stop.
Challenges.
The rescue.
Help to the people.
Series alive.
Take me back to the day that Russia invaded.
Did you think, either of you, that this would happen?
Definitely we have information from some sources.
It's happen.
The Russians prepare, but we hope it's not happens.
We can't realize it's possible.
It's actually doesn't accept normal.
It's nobody can tell in modern time it's possible to kill the people in Walu, Wallace of the price of human lives, it's nothing.
What's extraordinary, Vladimir, is when you come to Kyiv today, it seems like a perfectly normal European democratic city with people going about their life.
And yet just a few months ago, the Russians were trying to get into Kyiv and take it.
Do you remember that, those first few days?
First of all, I want to say thank you, Mr. Morgan, that you came here.
Because not everyone makes this decision.
Understanding, you have to take account that that might be your last trip.
You are not safe when you are on the Ukrainian soil due to Russian invasion.
Even though they are in the south and the east, Russian military forces and the fights are going on, but just recently, like yesterday, we could hear the sounds of artillery explosions, see the death, see the destruction, see buildings, residential buildings, residential buildings on fire.
Civilians, children, teenagers, tortured, dead.
They've been on the ground for at least 10 days.
You could see it.
Those bodies were laying there for a long time.
And it's just something that cannot possibly be accepted in your mind because speaking of myself, I've never been in the war.
I never saw so many dead people at once.
And then it just makes you feel you are having a bad dream.
And your dream takes a long time, even though, as Mombrada just said, it's like one very long day because there's like so many things are happening and having current life in a city that seems like normal-ish.
So normal you cannot call because you see the barricades and you see that more military presence and you see the certain energy and the vibe in people.
And just recently the city was empty.
The city that was filled up with five million people before the war all of a sudden was empty in March, beginning of March.
Empty.
No cars, no people, no life.
And three weeks ago, Vitaly, Kyiv was attacked again with long-range missiles fired by the Russians at the city.
This could happen at any moment, I presume.
Nobody's safe.
No safety feeling for anyone in Ukrainian territory.
Any second, any minute, Russian rackets can land it in any buildings and kill everyone.
No guarantee.
And that way is risky.
But we talking about that many times.
We see how many civilians died, as deaths, killed in this period of time.
Russian explanation, it's special operation against military forces is a liar.
We know it's just in our city destroyed more than 600 buildings, 220 apartment buildings.
We know its whole city, Mariupa destroyed.
Sevardonyans, Kharkiv, Chernygiv, and Bucharen, Gastome, and other cities is totally destroyed.
I know you went to Bucha, Vladimir, didn't you?
Both of us.
You both went.
And the scenes that you found in Bucha were horrifying.
It cannot anyhow possibly your mind cannot really kind of work through this because it's just unhuman.
For those who've never been in a war, what did you see?
What did you see in Bukju?
I can tell you, those images are horrifying.
You see flattened car and with sign on it, children flattered.
You see bodies in that car, flattened by the tank.
You see people that were on their knee with hands tied behind their back.
Teenagers.
Teenagers.
I don't know how young they were.
Shot in the head, executed.
You see bodies all over the place between the houses, on the streets, in underground to the houses, everywhere.
It's just like an enormous amount of death that was silent, but it's also shocking with the destruction that was all around all around the city of Kiev.
I want to tell exactly what right now, Vladimir.
This war has sense from Russian side.
They need Ukrainian territory, but they don't need the population.
Ukrainian population.
They don't care how many they kill.
And they want to kill everyone.
They want to occupy territory.
And they want to kill the people.
I'm guilty.
It's children, women.
We was in Bucha, so I never forget these images street with bodies.
Old women, grandma, 70 years is more than 70 years old.
She killed children, teenagers.
What kind of people do this?
No explanation.
And just one explanation.
It's not a war.
It's genocide.
Yes.
And I believe that it's clearly understandable why this war is going the way it's going.
I think it's certainly rewriting the history, whatever the history is.
Rewriting the history that the capital of entire former Russia and all the countries together, starting Kiev Skarus, with 1500 years of history of the city, and rewriting that it's not Russia won the Second World War, but Soviet Union with allies, England and the United States.
And it's just in certain ways rewriting that this is our territory.
That's how Russians call our Crimea Peninsula Crimea.
This is our territory.
But what does it mean our?
I mean, literally, they need Ukraine, but not the Ukrainians.
And you could tell that.
We're just like in the way of the truth.
And now it's so obvious, the longer this war is going, the more clear it's going to be for the world.
But it's so insane to do something in 2022.
Insane.
Because I would say in a certain way, you possibly could rewrite the history if it was like 100 years ago.
You cannot do it right now.
This certain way it's a blockchain.
Thankfully to globalization.
You cannot just delete and erase the history in one part because it's always going to pop up.
Too much has been noted, too much has been seen and also learned, even though the free world is still making mistakes in my opinion.
Just letting Russia do what they've done before because there's complete dependence on energy.
And that's why silence, stepping back, Malaysian flight was shot.
Okay, maybe later on we will exactly see how that happens, where the rocket came from.
Annexation of Pinslo-Crimea, that's all right.
With the rest, Lugansk and Donetsk, that's alright.
So it's been coming a long time.
But no consequences.
Sanctions verbally.
Consequences if Russia will invade Ukraine verbally in the beginning.
I mean, I had a feeling the free world was just watching and observing, like, okay, three days, that's what the buzz is out there, the three days and Ukraine is going to fail.
It will end up not well for Russia and Russian propaganda.
You cannot hide the truth for too long.
I'm sensitive.
Let's go to talk about life growing up in the Soviet Union and how they learned to love America.
There will be people watching this who maybe only know you two from your boxing careers.
You were two world heavyweight champions, uniquely, these fighting brothers who conquered the world.
Vitaly, you never got knocked down in your entire professional career.
You're now facing both of you the fight of your life.
You're the mayor of Kyiv, this capital city.
The Russians have already tried to attack it once.
I'm sure they'll probably try again.
You've been actually fighting with the reservists here.
Is this the biggest fight of your lives for both of you?
I would say, you know, I'm not going to put it, I wouldn't put it on the, so to speak, blankets, you know, on us.
It's us, in this case, Ukrainians.
And we all do someone in the front, literally right now, and someone gave up their life.
And there are different fronts.
There are many fronts.
And to run the city during this war times, I don't want to say challenging times, war times.
It is complicated, as well as everything else in the country.
And it's us.
And it's us not to forget not just us Ukrainians, us Europeans, us so-called free world, us against the evil, evil decision to invade Ukraine, not just invade with new technologies and invade for creation, but destruction that was done on 22nd of 24th of February.
But Vitaly, that day they invaded, and over the next few days, I know that you were struck by the fact that Ukrainian people, rather than all wanting to run away, the men came to you, older men in the street, and asked you, give me a gun, let me fight for my country.
Fighting For Global Democracy 00:15:11
I found that very powerful.
Yeah, I'm very proud to be Ukrainian because the Russians attacked, destroyed the cities, and they expect the people will be in panic, people will be depressed.
Instead, them, the people angry and will have a huge will to defend our city, our homes, our families.
And democracy and freedom, right?
I mean, it's wider than just Ukraine.
You're fighting as a country for your own lives, but you're fighting for global democracy.
The reason of this senseless war is everyone has to clearly understand the reason of invasion to Ukraine to occupy Ukraine, our wish to be the part of European family, to build modern European country.
The Russians never accept our wish and Putin want to rebuild Russian and Soviet Empire.
Everyone has to clearly understand that.
The reason of this senseless war.
And we was in USSR and we see our future as part of European family, as democratic, free country, Ukraine.
And we fighting right now for the future for our country, for our children.
We don't want to live in the country with no human rights, no press freedom, no democratic values, where it's dictator, auto-tourism.
We were in the USSR and we don't want back to USSR.
Point.
When you were younger, your father was a communist.
He was also a Soviet pilot.
And he loved Leonard Brezhnev, the leader of the Soviets at the time.
We everybody loved him.
Of course.
And I know that when he died, you said that you cried for weeks when Leonid Brezhnev died.
Yes, because your family was so brought up to believe that this man was so magnificent.
But then an interesting thing happened, I think, Vitaly, for you, where you went to America in your late teens and you discovered that all the propaganda about America and the West wasn't what you found.
Tell me about that.
We growing up in the Soviet Union and propaganda worked so much.
In the school we have every week a couple of lessons about the political lessons.
We call that political lessons.
We explain about bad United States, bad Europe, bad system and what they want to do with us.
They want the Americans, the whole world to want to attack us and want to make the slaves from every one of us.
And we truly believe that from child.
The system made brainwashing for every one of us.
And yes, of course, I was a small child.
Brezhnev died and the Brezhnev was a symbol of our country.
And I was nine years old and I think is it?
Is it?
Nobody protects us anymore.
And right now the Americans came, I was shocked, and not just me, millions of people in Russia because we were zombed from propaganda.
Right now, they're exactly the same way.
Well, I'm going to come to the parallel with now, but when you went to America, I think you were 18, what did you discover?
Thanks, Perestronika came and I have a chance as sportsman, a sportsman to fly to the United States.
I was 18 years old.
I was really surprised.
Everything is liar.
I came back to Ukraine.
I told our father.
Father was a communist.
He truly believed in this system.
And told, father, everything, what we listened, it's sorry, it's broken.
These good people, these guys-friendly people, it's a good country.
They have so many products.
They have 100 types of cheese.
For us, of course, it's something we have just one cheese.
You know what is we have grown up in a system where we doesn't have so much choice.
But did your father believe you?
And father told, listen, the Americans make one beautiful city, especially to make a propaganda.
It's everyone come and see how beautiful America is.
America is horrible.
Please don't pay attention for that.
They try to use you personally as propaganda instrument because you explain to everyone the America is beautiful.
Then you took your father to America.
Many, many years later, I had a chance.
We have actually working with HBO in the United States, boxing there.
I bring my father, we bring our father to the United States and remind him, you remember we talked about that at Father.
Sorry guys, I don't expect if we actually everyone was zombed from the system.
But he was a victim, your father, in a way, of the propaganda machine.
And now we see the same propaganda that in Russia with Putin.
70% of Russians genuinely believe he is fighting a just war against Nazis and fascists in Ukraine, oppressing Russian-speaking people who must be saved.
It's the same kind of mentality, brainwashing the people to believe a complete lie.
I believe back in the Soviet times it was easier to hide the truth.
Now it's more complicated due to globalism and internet and different sources where people can get true information and make their own choice.
And it is complicated and complex, but we've seen that for over a decade the system for propaganda in Russia was well prepared and worked well, not just in Russia, but not to forget also in the rest of the world, because Russian sponsored state-sponsored media is still, even now, transmitting the messages, the news in Switzerland.
For instance, I was shocked when we were in Davos, on Davos Economic Conference, where I was at Dartel and I turned on TV and I see Syria Mariupol explained by the Russian media, state-sponsored media, that Ukrainians destroyed the city.
So, you know, sick and sick lies.
It is, it is.
And even though they've been successful with that, but it will end up not well for Russia and Russian propaganda.
You cannot hide the truth for too long.
You can't.
And it's just a matter of time.
I just wish this time is going to not last for too long.
So not too much of destruction is going to be done.
Not too many people are going to be taken.
The simplest thing you can do.
Die for a country.
You know what's most complicated?
Live for your country.
That means fight them for life.
Uncensored next, the Klitschko's talk about one of the most heart-rending and shocking atrocities of this entire war so far.
Vitaly, you're a major target for the Russians and they were trying to find you and kill you early on.
We know from your sporting career as a heavyweight champion, you don't stand back, you don't fear other human beings.
But was there a moment in the early days where you feared for your life and do you still fear for your life?
Listen, everyone, every Ukrainian, Ukrainians was target.
Everyone who supports Ukraine, who support our wish to be the European country, who want to build democracy is a target.
It was a target and still the target of Russians.
You sent your family away, your wife and your three children.
They've gone away to another part of a safer part of the country.
Yeah, we send the rest of our family to safe place.
When did you last see them?
A long time ago, six months ago.
You haven't seen your family for six months?
Yeah, thank you for technology.
We make a video conference, we're talking every day.
But you have three children, you haven't been able to hug during a war, right?
I mean, that's tough.
Yeah, it's tough.
But a big part of my wishing my back.
Yeah, I mean, if he needs a hug, I'm giving him, or the other way around.
But it must be nice for you to have each other.
Because you've always had each other, but now, I would imagine, more than ever, particularly if you're separated from family members, other family members.
It is.
And probably will...
Speaking of continuing with exploring questions like, are you ready to die for your country?
This question was asked, and I probably sense it.
There's something is coming.
That's your country, and that's your home, your principles, and everything.
And you know, that's the simplest thing you can do.
Die for a country.
You know what's most complicated?
Live for your country.
That means fight for life.
Protect your people.
Protect your country.
Protect yourself.
It's so complicated.
And at some point, you're really kind of feeling like, you know what, I'm going to run to my death, so to speak, just to end up this misery.
But no, the strength is of us Ukrainians that also we don't want to die, even though a lot of being already killed and tortured and raped and now still putting life on the line.
But living for your country is more complicated, more challenging.
And it's definitely something that we don't want to do as Ukrainians, run it to our death.
So we stay strong, we stay alive, we fight for a choice, not to live on our knee.
Have you been both lived for years?
Have you lost friends or family members in this war, yourselves?
Thanks God we didn't lost the family members, but a lot of friends already was killed.
You see, we can't imagine it, you know, living in London.
We have the odd terrorist attack or whatever, but we can't imagine a war of the kind we had in World War II where the German bombers were coming over and blitzing our homes.
That hasn't happened in the UK for 70 plus years.
To see it happen in a democratic European country like Ukraine is just surreal.
And to hear you say you've lost a number of friends already, the war has only been going a few months and already it's impacting you personally in a way that it is everyone in Ukraine, I guess.
I have some message to Great Britain, for everyone outside of the country, for Europe, for all the world.
If someone thinks the war some far away from you, somewhere in Ukraine, and this war doesn't touch him personally, his biggest mistake.
This war can touch everyone in the European continent.
Ukraine is one of the largest countries in Europe.
And instability in Ukraine can bring instability in the whole region.
And please don't forget, Ukraine have five nuclear plants.
One of them, one of the biggest, largest nuclear plants in Ukraine, was on fire.
It will be explosions, it will be strategy much times bigger than Chernobyl Catastrophe.
In this case, this war can touch personally everyone in the planet.
What's been extraordinary has been the reaction from so many people around the world to Ukraine and Ukrainian people and the courage and the fortitude that you've been showing.
You have a jar of pennies there, Vitaly, just on the desk.
If you could just reach over and grab that for me, because I wanted you to just explain what this jar is.
Listen, it's one of the stories, very touchful story.
Our sister city, Riga, sent the buses to Kiev to help, and the mayor of Riga told to everyone, the bus is empty, let's bring some stuff to Ukrainian people to help them.
People bring some sweet shirts, food, medication, and one small boy, around six years old, bring this glass for with pennies, small money, and give the money to mayor of Riga and say, I collect this money lifelong.
It's life savings.
Life savings.
Six.
And I want to give this money to Ukrainian children.
I give $100 to the foundation, but I want to give this money back to this boy when the war finished.
A Boy's Life Savings 00:02:11
Small boy with a big heart.
Yes, it's a wonderful story.
There's another story you tell which has a much sadder ending.
You met a young boy same age at the station soon after the invasion and he was crying for his mummy and daddy and you were trying to console him and then a woman came up to you and said actually both his parents are dead and we just haven't been able to tell him yet.
That's got to be a gut-wrenching moment.
Yeah it's very touchful.
This was second, third week of the war.
It's our train station was full.
The people who tried to evacuate the people much safety place in Ukraine and break it full.
In one corner we make for the children with the toys and children play there, some small playground and I visiting, checking, everything is fine and see the small boy crying there.
Come to him, give five, don't worry, everything is good.
Ask mom, dad, and don't worry, any minute your parents come in here and one more woman come to me and not allow me.
Sorry.
This child don't know.
He's alone.
The parents was killed.
And we're not allowed to tell him truth.
How did that make you feel that moment?
As a father.
I'm getting angry.
Angry, and I understand everyone.
Everyone who wants, the people ask me in the street, the people ask me, Mr. Mayor, give to other weapons.
We're ready to fight.
And defending our children.
Defending our homes.
Victims Of Brainwashing 00:05:32
I was brainwashed.
I didn't understand what was going on.
I really believed there were Nazis.
On Sensor Next, the Klishko brothers have a firm message for Vladimir Putin.
I mean, it's complicated, I would imagine, for you about your feelings towards Russian people, Vladimir, because you have Russian blood, both of you.
You grew up speaking Russian.
I mean, do you hate the Russian people, or is your focus of anger towards Putin and the regime?
I was brainwashed.
I didn't understand what was going on.
I really believed there were Nazis.
And don't forget, the reasons have been changed.
First, the Nazification, special operation, the fight against NATO.
It's our land.
We historically rewrite it because it's our land.
So there are always some new excuses because none of them worked from the beginning to the end.
Is Putin for you, is he the new Hitler?
People use that phrase a lot, but in his case, given what he's done, given the way Hitler invaded Poland and the way Putin's invaded Ukraine, I believe Nazi Germany and what Russia is doing in Ukraine with filtration camps, with destruction, with destruction of life and infrastructure and anything living in Ukraine, there are parallels with Nazi Germany.
There are parallels.
Yeah, I completely agree.
Should the West be doing more than it's currently doing?
Not just providing military, but some people think that NATO, the greatest military force in history, should actually attack Putin.
It was a mistake to take neutral status.
And first point.
Second point.
We have to be strong.
The Russians accepted just strong position.
They don't pay attention to weak people, weak politicians, weak decisions and regarding questions the West have to do it more.
Yes.
First point.
Second point.
West right now is too slowly.
Long discussion about defensive weapon.
I want to tell.
Defensive weapon because we defend our country.
We need the help.
Nord Stream 2.
Long, long discussion about that, but definitely take decision.
It's too slow.
Has Europe been too naive in allowing itself to become too reliant on Russia and Putin for its energy resource?
Has it allowed Putin now to use that as a blackmail weapon?
Russians use any leverage to make us weak and they stronger.
It's fascinating to me that you grew up in a family where communism was king, that was the belief, everybody believed it strongly, and then the wool came off your eyes in a way and you saw the reality by going to America and realized a lot of it was lies and propaganda.
If Russian people are watching this interview, what's your direct message to them?
I try to...
I speak with many Russians, very intelligent people, good educated, but they truly believe in Russian government.
Exactly the same question I give me in Second World War.
How so huge population, Germany with big culture plus with intelligence people make it getting crazy in very short period of time.
Somebody, I think it was Goebbels, the propaganda architect of Nazis, who said it's easy to get the people to do what you want.
You just have to make them scared.
That's the point.
And that's exactly exactly with fear and being scared.
And it's not just about the Russian people.
What are you going to say to Russian people right now?
They're not going to listen to it.
Right.
They're not going to watch it.
Because they're not going to understand it because it's in English.
It's not going to be translated.
Forget about it.
But it's all fear.
It's more to the free world more than to the Russians.
They are victims of the situation and they scared to death to say anything against the will of their government.
So is, in a certain way, in the Western world, being afraid, scared or coward.
I think a lot of cowardice is also scared.
I think all Putin's had to do is say, if you do anything, I'll use my nuclear weapons.
And it seems to me the West has gone, oh no, no, no, we can't.
We better be careful.
We can't.
And once Putin knows that the West has backed off because of that threat, why would he stop using that threat?
He'll keep using that threat.
The Cost Of Cowardice 00:02:24
You know, we have, as former fighters, we have a good saying which applies to everything.
Because who is holding the weapons?
A human.
There is not a human on the other side.
Weapons, meaning economical side with gas and oil or nuclear uh weapons or any other.
They're human.
So bully the bully.
That's the saying we have in boxing.
You have an opponent wearing the gloves and if you're gonna let him do whatever he wants to do, he is really gonna do whatever he wants to do.
What's the Mike Tyson quote?
Everyone has a plan.
Everyone has a plan until he gets hit, exactly.
And it's pretty much applying and there are parallels.
You have to bully the bully.
If you always let to take a step back, you just make the bully stronger.
And that's exactly what must be taken.
Consequences, hard consequences for every action should be a reaction.
Equal.
How often do you talk to each other?
Every day.
Once a day?
More?
I didn't count.
Did you?
No, every day.
I mean, you have a remarkably close relationship.
I have two brothers.
I don't talk to them every day.
But has your relationship become closer because of this war?
Has it brought you even closer than you were?
No, no.
War doesn't play any role in always from the beginning.
The parents go to work and I have to care about my small brother and I care about him until today and take responsibility.
Also right now he's big enough to take responsibility about the brother.
Your mother always said she never wanted to see you fight against each other.
But nowadays you don't say she said there was family propaganda.
Don't fight each other.
Support each other.
Did you ever fight like quietly?
You ever had that little no.
I was smart enough to realize as a five-year younger he was 15, I was 10.
What's the chances?
So I was waiting and waiting.
I mean if he were to right now right now is right now is a good idea to fight younger brother.
Healthy Sibling Rivalry 00:03:27
He's too strong enough.
He looks his guns are pretty pumped there.
You reckon you take him now if he finally there is there is no reason.
I mean what is the reason?
Just you know sibling rivalry.
You know there is no rivalry.
There's competition, healthy competition and more of supporting of each other.
You both look very fit but Vitali and you work out every day.
Does it help with the mental pressures that you must be feeling?
Healthy body, healthy spirit.
Healthy mind.
Healthy mind.
What do you both, when you think about the war ending, and it will end it, we don't know when, I hope it ends very soon, but when it ends, what's the thing you're both most looking forward to when that day comes, when freedom comes?
As Merov Kiev, we have a lot of plans to change our city.
I enjoy my job because it's huge responsibility, but I change by myself my hometown, my country, and I enjoy that to see the result.
And people very appreciate to see the new schools, new preschools, new street, new parks, and they enjoy that.
And I enjoy that also if people happy.
To make people happy is great privilege.
Our plans to be successful.
It's best answer for our friends and also for our enemy.
Be successful.
And success of the country is the main priority.
Frank Sinatra, in fact, Mike Tyson actually has a poster of Frank Sinatra in his office in Los Angeles.
He showed me.
And it's Sinatra's quote: the best revenge is great success.
Yeah, it's true.
That seems to me what you're saying.
What about for you, Vladimir?
What do you most look forward to when this is over?
I'll be very honest.
Obviously, family and all the personal stuff, which shouldn't be public, but I would say that this war showed, as well as 30 years of being an athlete, that focus, agility, coordination, and endurance are important principles in family life, in sport, in politics, and also in the war.
These qualities we Ukrainians have, and we Ukrainians showing face to the challenge.
And we, the free world, will stand together with Ukraine against this aggression and show that the good will always conquer the evil.
Thank you both so much for your time.
It's been a great honor to come to Kyiv and to see you both together.
The world looks on with huge admiration.
You're very inspiring, like so many Ukrainians.
And we're all behind you.
All decent people are behind you.
And you should know that.
And please, not only verbally, but with everything else that's already been done, but please, more.
We need it now.
More.
We need this support so, so, so much.
Thank you for being here.
Because we're fighting in defending not just our families and our children.
We're defending the same valus, what we have.
We're fighting for every one of you.
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You know what?
You're fighting for freedom and democracy, which are the most important things in the world.
And that doesn't just stay in Ukraine, that applies everywhere.
And it was the same in 1939, it's the same now.
And I wish you every success in winning this war.
I really do.
So thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Well, that's it for tonight.
An extraordinary interview with two extraordinary people.
And tomorrow night, I'll be sitting down with two more extraordinary people.
President Vladimir Zelensky and his wife, the first lady, Elena Zelenska.
First Lady, is it true that he didn't tell you that he was going to run for president?
Say it through.
Say it true.
He forgot.
He forgot?
You forgot to tell your wife you're running for president?
Each day he was thinking, that is the day, that is the moment I should tell her.
I saw his New Year's address and found out he was actually running.
Wait a minute, you found out on TV?
Really?
He was going...
Mr. President, I was not laughing so much.
This is your opportunity to apologise to your wife.
Okay, I'm sorry.
It's a remarkable interview with two remarkable people who are currently trying to lead their country through the biggest crisis it has ever faced.
You won't want to miss this.
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