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April 6, 2024 - Toxic Culture - Rob Agueros

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Mass Psychosis of America

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	So Harrison, I heard you used to work for the opposition and you were Seth Meyers' right-hand man.
	I mean that was a long time ago.
	I'm not sure why you'd bring that up here.
	I feel like it's relevant.
	What about I heard he used to work for the FBI as well?
	Is that what this is going to be like?
	I mean, throwing these accusations, did you guys know he was going to do this?
	Are they accusations?
	The other accusations.
	You going to really ask me that?
	Did you see that?
	That's it.
	I'm out.
	I'm out.
	Seriously, dude.
	I'm out.
	Come on.
	Bro, bro.
	Bro.
	Dude.
	Come on, dude.
	I'm serious.
	You didn't say it was going to be like this, dude.
	You said you were going to be cool.
	Survival Shield X3, now back and better than ever with a whopping 40% discount.
	It's your ticket to a healthier youth.
	Dude, I think Skits is going to be the savior to our fans' sanity.
	It's the only way.
	Like, I really think that we need to bring the pain with comedy because we bring it with news.
	And I love, I love, I mean, everybody loves our coverage, but I mean, we need to give fans some kind of like comedic.
	It's the spoon full of sugar.
	Yeah.
	Helps the medicine go down.
	Probably one of my proudest moments was showing, so I did the COVID vaccine pitch meeting and showed it to my brother-in-law.
	And he had gotten, I don't want to be air in his dirty laundry, but he basically like he resisted for a really long time and basically was going to lose a very good job.
	So he eventually got a dose.
	And so like in that skit, when I'm going, can I bribe you with not losing your job?
	He was just like, well, he was like laughing the whole time.
	Then as soon as it was over, he was just like, yeah, that cut deep, man.
	So it's like, you know, if you can, if you can like sort of shove it in someone's face and still have them sort of laugh at what, you know, you're talking about, I think that's how you break through.
	Dude, we need to be focusing on bringing more people in.
	I feel like there's a lot of effort right now in like taking the people that are already generally on our side and dividing them, like figuring out who's really real and who's not.
	Or you're just like, it's getting smaller and smaller.
	It's like literally an infighting problem we have.
	It's like the people, I understand, okay, there's nothing wrong with paranoia, but it's to the point to where, okay, you, you, oh, we have people on the right and the left.
	We have people in the middle.
	So people on the right and in the middle are like, okay, we know people on the left aren't on our side.
	Right.
	That's fine.
	But then they're like, oh, shit, I'm a little paranoid.
	Well, what about, is this person really on our side?
	Right.
	Like, how, so, but wait, he doesn't like this and I like this.
	So I'm like, well, I don't know if he's really that good anymore.
	Yeah.
	It's like, we're, I mean, it's a snake in its own tail at the end of the day.
	Well, and the funny thing is, I'll have people, I'll have people tell me that people I know super well are feds and it's just like, but they're not.
	I don't know how to tell you this, but they're not.
	And they're like telling me with authority.
	They're like, that guy's a fed.
	And I'm just like, why?
	Why do you think?
	I mean, there's never any evidence.
	I mean, the calling people feds thing.
	You're right.
	Paranoia has a purpose.
	There's a lot of feds infiltrating our movement.
	We know that very well.
	But man, it has become toxic.
	It's become toxic, unfortunately.
	The division, when really all we need to be doing is trying to get our message out to as many new people as possible.
	Because, man, there's entire, there are vistas opening up before us of people who would never in a million years be a conspiracy theorist.
	But man, the last few years, they're looking around going, something's messed up here.
	Something's not right.
	And speaking of that, for all of our new fans and new viewers, especially to this broadcast, can you look into that camera right there and tell them who exactly you are?
	Yes.
	Hi, I'm Harrison Hill Smith.
	I'm the host of American Journal on Infowars.com and Band.video each and every weekday morning, 8 to 11 a.m.
	Central Standard Time, where we cover news and topics like culture and war and the most horrific things you've ever seen, but in a fun, uplifting way, because it's the morning and no one wants to wake up to reality that early in the morning.
	That's who I am.
	I've been hosting for about two years, three going on three?
	Three years, I guess, at this point.
	Because I was not hosting all through 2020 and I started hosting at the beginning of 2021.
	So we're in 2024.
	Yeah, going on three years now.
	I think we probably just hit our three-year anniversary.
	Isn't it crazy?
	Wild.
	Like, I remember when that day it happened, and you're just like, wait, I'm what?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Like, talk about a dream come true.
	Like, no, fuck.
	Right place, right time, honestly.
	And it was really right place, right time because I was actually out of town when everything went down.
	So, you know, I just, I was just on vacation and came back to, you know, basically like, you'll host the show for now, you know, until we get a permanent host.
	And then I just sunk my claws in and haven't left since.
	Right.
	And that's, that's like the epitome of a good amount of people here.
	It's like, I'm here for a reason and I'm going to try to, I'm going to prove it.
	Yeah.
	And I did the same thing.
	I sunk my teeth in.
	I'm like, yeah, I'm not letting go.
	Yeah.
	We're literally pit bulls.
	We're not letting go.
	It's a libertarian organization.
	Like there's really that sort of ethos of like, you know, you're hired to do a job.
	You got to do that job.
	You got to fulfill those certain things.
	But then you can kind of do what you want.
	And if it works, you keep doing it.
	And if it doesn't, you got to not do that anymore.
	So, you know.
	And that's what's great is they give you the freedom to do it.
	And to try it, it fails.
	And you fall on your face and you learn how to get back up and try it a different way.
	It's not like you're going to be punished or anything.
	It's just like, oh yeah, you did that for a little while, but it never really caught on.
	So like, what are you doing next?
	You know, so exactly.
	And those are the people who are surviving and keep going is when you just like, you have, yeah, you have to have that drive and want to keep going and try to make a difference, especially this place here.
	That like I had to learn from Alex, like, especially just I, by nature, am more of like a perfectionist.
	I don't want to start anything until I have the whole thing planned out to the very last word.
	And Alex, his whole thing is just like, just do it.
	Just go out and do it.
	Just do it.
	Do it.
	So I'm like, I have this idea, and my idea is, I'm like, I want to workshop this and come to an idea of how this is going to work, and then we'll script it out.
	And it's just like, if you say to Alex, I have this idea, he's like, then do it.
	And then he walks away and you're like, right, okay, great.
	I got to just do it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that's it.
	It works, actually.
	Yeah, it really, really does.
	And especially for the ones who want to make it work.
	You always find a way to do it.
	You always find a way to do it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, no one's going to stop you, honestly.
	And, you know, our audience is also very understanding.
	And there's an interesting thing with internet culture in general that it doesn't have to be perfect and it almost makes it more authentic if you can tell like, okay, you know, these guys are just really just doing it themselves.
	It's not some fancy, you know, the mainstream media gets away with so much because of the sheen, the veneer of, you know, how much money is poured into it, basically.
	Whereas with InfoWars, I mean, especially when I was working as a cameraman, I mean, it was just get the camera, hit the streets, hit stream, go.
	I mean, everything was good quality, but it's just that run and gun style that InfoWars sort of pioneered that we still stick to.
	And I love how many people started to mimic it.
	It's like, you know, it took a little while, though, because even if you go back to, let's just say, 2019, the biggest thing when I got hired on there was the migrants.
	And that's one of the stories I broke.
	And it's literally was like Alex was just saying, go out and do it, film it, pick up a phone and do it.
	And over the past four years, slowly people have gotten to keep going.
	Like, look at the border coverage we did.
	We literally did all that three years ago, four years ago.
	And now look at the mainstream.
	Look at, you know, people like RVG Truth, Anthony Aguero, Michael Yon, you know, Muck Raker, Anthony Rubin.
	They're all at Info Uncensored.
	Yeah.
	Henry.
	Henry, yeah.
	I'm playing on his last name, but that dude's awesome.
	No, literally, there's like dozens of people doing it now.
	It's literally like a swarm of people just like infiltrating, getting the footage.
	Arce.
	Yeah, Hernando Arce.
	Hernando Arce, yeah, yeah.
	Carlos.
	He's doing it.
	He's like getting arrested doing it.
	Yeah, there's literally dozens of them just pumping it out and spreading awareness and getting crazy footage, too.
	And once you realize how easy it is, like, hold on, this is actually my First Amendment.
	Like, I can just do this anywhere.
	It's like, yeah.
	You should have been doing this the whole time.
	And you can break a big story.
	I remember during COVID, my sister was going to get monoclotal antibodies because she had COVID and I had COVID.
	And she was telling me, yeah, you just got to call in and make an appointment.
	And so I called in and they told me like, basically it was the thing that I was denied them because I was white.
	I remember that.
	And they like told me, and I was like, all right, I got to record this and do it again.
	So then my sister was like, all right, so do you want to come?
	And I was like, all right, I'm going to go do this.
	Either I'm going to get the monoclonal antibodies and, you know, great, they're supposed to be helpful, or I'm going to get footage of them denying me monoclonal antibodies, which turned into a huge news story.
	It was on Fox News.
	There was like the Oregon legislature had to write a law to say you're not allowed to do this.
	So again, there was nothing, there's nothing like special about me that I'm like a reporter.
	So I went out and did it.
	I was just like, this is suspicious.
	This is weird.
	People should know about this.
	I'm just going to hit record on my phone and see what happens.
	Like, that's how easy it is to break national stories and change laws in this country.
	It's wild.
	Yep.
	And dude, speaking of like COVID in 2020, man, like that was devastating.
	I still, till this day, I can't wrap my mind around how they were able to mass psychosis that many people.
	I mean, the craziest part was that we were tearing our hair out while it was happening going, how are they doing this?
	Yeah.
	As they're doing it.
	In lifetime.
	Completely insane.
	To me, when they canceled football and nobody cared, I was like, oh my God, this is something different.
	Because for a while, it was like, well, they'll never mess with like certain things.
	Certain things Americans will.
	Grocery stores, sports.
	Yeah.
	And dude, they should.
	Man, that was so wild.
	And that's why, and of course, that's how I know that I wasn't doing American Journal in 2020.
	I know it started at the end of 2020 because all through 2020, I mean, I wasn't doing the show, and I would just stay up all night recording the videos of the riots, Black Lives Matter riots.
	And so I just got in the habit that I still have to this day of just downloading everything as soon as it pops up.
	And it was crazy because there would be times where there were riots going on in 10 different cities.
	You'd be watching a Twitter feed that was clipping stuff from this city and then other stuff in this city.
	Then I said, I was like, I'm just going to go to find an actual live stream.
	And the live stream I click on, it was in San Antonio.
	And it's a gang of people running around smashing windows, breaking into apartment buildings.
	And it was like, no one's even clipping this.
	So nobody is seeing it if they're not watching it live as it's being streamed.
	So it was just this like overwhelming amount of information just constantly coming out from streamers.
	And just, it was just such a crazy time.
	And I just, that whole year was just like documenting, saving everything, being like, just understanding that what we were living through was massively historic and unprecedented.
	It was crazy.
	And then you brought up the riots.
	Like COVID in itself was when it turned, they turned everything to a ghost town.
	Like I lived in San Antonio at that point.
	I hadn't moved out yet.
	And dude, I drive.
	It used to take me an hour and a half to get to work.
	It was actually nice when COVID emptied the streets.
	35 minutes to get from San Antonio to Austin in my, I don't know if I had a car truck at that point.
	And that was crazy too, was that because we're a media out with a special exemption.
	Essential, there you go.
	Obviously, we're essential.
	That goes without saying.
	But I feel like my life didn't really change.
	Like there was really not a time, unless it was like I want to go to this restaurant and they're closed because it's locked.
	That was the biggest thing.
	Yeah.
	Like, I mean, I know people that were like, remember when we didn't leave our house for a year?
	And it's like, I left my house every single day.
	I went to multiple locations every single day.
	The way you said it perfect, it didn't really affect our daily life other than less people out and about.
	And it was kind of great.
	Especially to the places that were thought the same way as we did.
	Like you remember across the street used to be Patsy's.
	Yeah.
	They didn't care.
	No, it's just, dude, it was great.
	it was a great service.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There were so many restaurants that were just glad for us to be there.
	And I remember countless of times I'd go in with me and some of the other crew at the time.
	Dude, we wouldn't be wearing masks or anything, and there'd be nobody in there.
	And we'd walk in, and you can see the sense of relief on the employees' face.
	Like, oh, they take off their masks.
	They're like, hey, what's up, guys?
	Like, they were talking to them.
	They'd come and sit down with us because we're the only people there.
	Yeah.
	You got, like you said, great service.
	People were friendly.
	And then, of course, you go to the establishments that were just fucking anal assholes and they didn't want you to, they wouldn't serve you.
	They wouldn't even let you in.
	There's countless videos of people fighting at hardware stores and shit.
	Oh, my God.
	Just because they don't want to let you in because they're scared.
	And the whole brainwashing process is fucking wild, man.
	It was insane.
	Well, and sort of the best example of the insanity is the fact that, I mean, you had for like a month, people were doing exactly that, right?
	Going insane.
	If you tried to go near them with a mask, they would like mace you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Insane level.
	We're going to lock my child in his room for a year style like psychosis.
	And then there's a Black Lives Matter protest where there's 10,000 people on the street and they don't even blink.
	They're just like, great, this is wonderful.
	And I mean, that was another one of those moments where you just go, what did they do to you people?
	Like, how, what?
	You're like flipping out.
	You're like, you know, break, you're no longer talking to family members because you believe in this so much.
	But then when it's a riot, you're like, it's fine.
	That doesn't matter.
	Dude, and then the whole thing of where they're talking about how the riots and going out and congregating for the riot.
	It lowers.
	And dude, at the end of the day, they're not wrong because natural immune, antibodies get the right ground.
	So people who are getting sick might have get sick and then get rid of it or they might get antibodies and not get COVID at all.
	Well, I mean, the fact that they try to push it.
	If they were making that argument, but at that time they were saying natural immunity doesn't exist.
	It isn't real, I do.
	Great news.
	The vaccine is on its way.
	Oh, really?
	That's right.
	It's a brand new mRNA vaccine.
	mRNA, that's never been done before, right?
	Oh, no, it's been done before.
	It just never made it out of the testing phase because all of the animals kept dying.
	But it'll be different this time.
	How so?
	Well, we're not going to do the animal testing, so.
	So you're just going to go straight to testing on humans?
	Yeah, you could say that.
	I mean, even so, don't most vaccines take years to develop and decades to test?
	It's here.
	The vaccine is here already.
	That's right.
	It's here and it's 100% effective.
	No transmission, no infection.
	You don't have to wear a mask or stay locked down anymore.
	Wow, really?
	Yep.
	Except for the things about the mask and lockdown, yep.
	Okay, but it's 100% effective?
	That's right.
	90% effective.
	And frankly, 85% effectiveness is really incredible.
	So it's only like 85% effective?
	Not quite.
	It's more like 75%.
	But hey, 65% is still very good.
	And I mean, they said we'd never even get to 50% effectiveness.
	And we did.
	Almost.
	So 40% is a really great achievement.
	So it's only like 40% effective now?
	For a bit.
	A bit?
	I mean, it wears off.
	Well, after how long?
	Like 4-6.
	4-6, what?
	Booster shots a year.
	Okay, so it really only works like right after you get the shot.
	Well, not right after, because we don't even consider you vaccinated until two weeks after your second shot.
	Okay, so it takes like a month for the shots to work, but it wears off.
	And even then it only gives you mild protection, but you have to get boosters that also wear off.
	You still have to wear a mask.
	You can still get COVID.
	And you still have to stay home.
	And there are rare but serious side effects.
	And all of this over a virus that has a survival rate of over 99.5%.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	I never said anything about serious side effects.
	Are there, though?
	Certainly none I've ever discussed.
	Yeah, but have there been reports of serious side effects?
	No, no, no.
	I mean, except for like AIDS or whatever.
	You say AIDS?
	Yeah, basically you get AIDS and then there's this heart thing where your heart explodes and sometimes half your face falls asleep forever and almost everybody gets extreme nausea and pain at the sight of the injection.
	Sometimes they just die right there at the injection site, but we're not sure that's caused by the vaccine so we will not be looking into it.
	I cannot believe that pharmaceutical companies would actually release this to the American people.
	Oh no, it's totally fine.
	They're completely indemnified against any wrongdoing, so they'll be fine.
	So like the double think is just absurd.
	It's insane.
	And it goes on to this day.
	And I mean, I almost find it frustrating because, you know, I always want to have a different take on whatever the news is.
	I want people to find value in coming to watch the show.
	So one way is just, you know, I can summarize the news so they don't have to spend time going and finding it, just news delivery.
	But I always want to have kind of an angle on it or a perspective on it that maybe you don't get in other places.
	But sometimes, you know, recently I've just, I've felt bad because I've just been like, I don't even know what to say about this.
	I mean, it's just so blatant.
	You know, the latest one was The Guardian saying why it's not anti-democratic to bar Trump from the ballot.
	And it's just like, do I need to explain this?
	Do I even need to be here?
	Like, if you can't just, on the face of it, understand how ridiculous this is, there's nothing I can say that's going to convince you.
	You know what I mean?
	Nobody's reading the headline and going, yeah, I can see that.
	Yeah, it's totally pro.
	We have to save democracy by banning the most popular candidate.
	And then I come out and go, actually, that's retarded.
	And they go, gee, you know what?
	You're right.
	I hadn't thought of it that way.
	It's like you have to be able to see through this shit.
	Just prima facé, just like on the face of it from first blush.
	And, dude, when do you think that started?
	I mean, we can go back, you know, you had a good point earlier about 1984.
	We got to get into that where Big Brother started.
	But the actual, you know, I think Trump derangement syndrome like really, really like ramped it up.
	Exactly.
	Because they've been saying the same shit about elections since fucking George Bush and Al Gore.
	Yeah.
	And Florida stores.
	You can't see with all the amount of evidence we actually have of election fraud, fucking the vote boxes being stuffed, actual USBs getting put in.
	Dude, the amount of evidence.
	Do you remember that?
	Like we talked about today, like they were literally putting USB into it and taking it out.
	And like, oh no, we're not fucking with anything.
	I mean, dude, yeah, the 2020 election is another great example where it's just like they shut it down in the middle of the night and hours later, the vote had completely flipped and there were hundreds of thousands of votes without a single one for Trump.
	It's like, again, on the face of it, on the face of it, you should understand.
	But that's less evidence than George Bush's brother being the governor of Florida where they did a recount so that way Bush could win.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You know, I don't.
	Well, I mean, in terms of like when people just became so like excited.
	I think there's different layers to it, levels to it, because you can go back and listen to, you know, what's his name?
	Bill Hicks.
	You can go back and listen to Bill Hicks talk in the 80s, and he's pointing out stuff where it's like, okay, yeah, this is obvious.
	And nobody should have fallen for this.
	Things like where it's like, you know, the joke he says where he goes, you know, we know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
	How do you know?
	We sold them to it.
	We sold it to him.
	You know, so it's like, even back then, it was this just blatant switcheroo where it was like people somehow forgot what happened a month ago.
	And so now when they're being presented something that's completely contrary to what they know happened a month ago, it just doesn't even affect them.
	It dude, it's, I don't know.
	Honestly, I don't know what goes on in these people's minds.
	No.
	And like they have to have a weak mental capacity to be able to even just to switch like that without even having an original thought to fight back against that.
	Like, oh, that's not, that doesn't seem right.
	Yeah.
	They're just like, oh, that's what it is.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Like, I mean, and they're two completely contradictory ideas.
	I mean, the transgender thing or the women's rights things, right?
	Where it's like, how can you be in support of women, but then also think that men can be women?
	I mean, just none of it meshes.
	None of it comports with each other.
	So that's why it really does seem like a cult programming type stuff, where that's what happens in cults.
	Like you have cognitive dissidence that's unaddressed and almost a sign of submission.
	And the submission is the virtue.
	So it's like, because I, and you want to talk about 1984, right?
	That's the idea of two plus two equals five is even though you know it's wrong, you have to internalize that it's correct.
	You have to actually sincerely believe this and it's a signal of your submission.
	It's not about two plus two equaling five because it's not like we have a new form of math and you have to think two plus two equals five.
	It's you have to be able to repeat absurdities to prove your loyalty to the party above even your own logic, your own shame, your own inner monologue.
	What we dictate must be superior to all of that.
	Yeah.
	And you had, you know, you're talking about the cult and you had a great breakdown about a year or two of the Jonestown cult.
	I've been meaning to like edit that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm going to add some of that on top of this because that was fucking, dude, that was an amazing breakdown.
	Well, dude, it was a wild.
	Yeah.
	So I did like an hour, like three shows in a row.
	I did the last hour.
	So it was like, I mean, we could make like a feature-linked documentary out of it.
	Honestly, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Because I got so deep into it.
	And it just, it blew my mind the number of connections to the modern world, the misconception most people have about Jim Jones, I assume to this day.
	You know, who knows?
	Like a Netflix will make a documentary and suddenly everybody knows about it.
	I don't think that's happened with him.
	But the fact that, you know, obviously people will talk about InfoWars and say, oh, you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
	It's like, dude, if you look into Jim Jones, he was the prototypical globalist crypto-communist liberal that the world has ever seen.
	You were drinking the Kool-Aid.
	If you buy the communist hogwash, that you would have been a devoted member of Jim Jones' cult.
	And it was about, I mean, he was on the forefront, let's just say that, of diversity, of activating like certain demographics to go out and vote.
	He was helping to rig elections in San Francisco.
	He was tied in with Dianne Feinstein.
	He was tied in with MKUltra and these creepy CIA programs.
	He, from the very beginning, was saying, I'm a communist.
	I want to destroy the church.
	The best way to do that is to infiltrate the church and to pretend that what I'm pushing is Christianity when really it's just thinly veiled communism designed to infiltrate and subvert the church.
	I mean, it goes on and on.
	Yeah.
	And like I said, we did three hours on it live like two years ago, and I barely even scratched the surface.
	Dude, I wonder if it's just like the allure of community, the allure of a greater good working together.
	Because if you think about the actual people who fall into these traps, they aren't people who come from strong family backgrounds, who have strong family morals, who have basically any morals themselves.
	They really don't have much going for them personally because they don't know how to generate that type of momentum for themselves.
	So it's like, oh, shit, if all of us can do this together, we can all just live in this land and all I have to do is just this little part.
	Everybody does their part, then we all get together and it all goes so smoothly.
	It sounds so nice.
	That's so good.
	And we can all sleep together.
	We can all like, we got the nipples are free here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like we're just frolicking around and we're just doing drugs.
	We're so enlightened.
	We're free from the slavery of Christianity and civilization.
	And, you know, so one of the things that I'm not even sure how much I touched on it when we were covering it, but when you talk about families, the weird part is that you'll have whole families in these cults.
	And so that shit was crazy.
	Wild, right?
	Like completely insane.
	But, you know, there was one specific example I was actually going to bring up earlier because it kind of ties into the whole like, you know, willfully believing Things that are contradictory in order to almost like prove your submission.
	There was a story that you might remember from this, from the coverage, where it was a family that was there, and the younger daughter was like a young teenager, and she did something that pissed off Jim Jones.
	And so, he had the whole congregation get together and like beat her with belts and sticks, like it was like brutal.
	And so, that for her parents was an awakening moment where they were like, what the fuck is going on?
	They're beating our daughter.
	We have to get out of here.
	But then the craziest part was at the end, the daughter says, thank you for doing that.
	I was, you know, thank you for teaching me this lesson.
	Thanking the people that were beating her, thanking Jim Jones for ordering them to beat her, going, you know, I deserved that.
	Like, I'll never do that again.
	So, you know, two sides of that.
	One is that, you know, that's how cults work.
	They literally abuse their own members, and that brings them closer.
	It's a weird psychological thing.
	That's exactly the same thing that happens interpersonally with a narcissist or abusive spouse.
	It's the exact same thing, right?
	Stockholm syndrome.
	It's a form of Stockholm syndrome.
	So it works on the individual level.
	It works on the small community level and it works on the national level.
	You abuse somebody, you hurt them somehow, and then you love them.
	And that just like throws people for a loop, and there's something deeply psychological that attaches you.
	So that's the one aspect that they use that in cults.
	Narcissists and abusers use it in interpersonal relationships.
	And then the globalists use it on a global level where they lock you down in your house for a year and then say, you're welcome for doing that to you, right?
	And they like it.
	But then the flip side of that is that because this thing happened to their daughter, that family got out.
	So the strength of family is that it's another set of eyes that can give you a new perspective.
	If that girl who was beaten didn't have the rest of her family there, she never would have left the cult.
	They would have beaten her and she would have stayed there.
	Or if that hadn't happened to their daughter, the whole family would have stayed in the cult.
	So if you can separate people from their family, you weaken them that much more.
	You destroy a layer of defense that they have against somebody trying to manipulate or control them.
	And so that's why you have individuals joining cults, typically not families, because the family will have other members that can go, hey, this doesn't make any sense.
	The other member will go, yeah, I was thinking this doesn't make sense.
	Hey, should we get out of here?
	Yeah, let's get out of here.
	It's way easier to do when you have some support than being alone where all your friends and people you consider family are in your cult.
	You have no one to run to.
	So, you know, it's family that gives people strength, which, again, is why the globalists are so desperate to tell everybody families are evil.
	Exactly.
	And I think that, I mean, that's been their narrative since the 80s.
	I mean, trying to give families, single mothers more money for not having, you know, the father around.
	It's like that right there, they're building an army.
	And I mean, if you actually think about that concept with fluoride, with GMOs, with microplastics, with cell phone radiation, years and years, decades of all those concepts put together is going to make your nice NPC slave for you.
	100%.
	And I kind of just answered my own question.
	That's how they've done it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's 100% how they've done it.
	And I always think that a suit of armor and each piece is something that protects you or makes you strong against their imposition of whatever they want on you.
	And so what they're doing is just piece by piece, they're trying to remove that armor from you and leave you defenseless to their manipulation.
	So like intelligence would be one, right?
	Knowing history, knowing what reality is, like being able to have logic and reason.
	We did a thing on American Journal this week where I was showing these videos of these people that, I mean, they're just cartoonishly stupid, right?
	It's these things.
	They're just fucking retarded.
	Yeah, literally.
	Like they go up to these young girls on the street or young women on the street and say, you know, if you're going 80 miles an hour, how long will it take you to go 80 miles?
	And they just have no idea where to even begin.
	They're like thinking like, how long does it feel like it takes?
	And it's just like, all right, you're not overthrowing anybody, right?
	You're not a threat to the power elite.
	Nobody.
	Ever.
	You'll never be a power.
	So like strength, intelligence, like moral conviction, having a family to back you up so you don't have to rely on the approval of your peers.
	Testosterone is like, chemically, that's what makes you be like us.
	Like they've run tests where it's like testosterone, it's not a aggressive thing.
	It's not a, it doesn't make you stupid and reckless.
	It makes you more discerning and it makes you willing to stand up when you're right and everybody else is wrong.
	Like scientifically, they've proven that.
	The higher your testosterone, the more likely you are to hold an unpopular position that you believe is right.
	And not just that, but it's also like you're more likely to go with your gut, right?
	We all know you should go with your gut.
	Like that's just a thing that humans have always known.
	If your gut says something, it's probably best to listen to it because you're receiving information that you're not consciously processing, but your brain is doing the calculations in the back of your mind and is sending you that signal going, warning, warning, you're in danger, even though you aren't consciously saying that there's somebody lurking in the shadows.
	Something you picked up.
	It isn't making you sick.
	Some echo has told your gut, hey, be aware of danger.
	So testosterone, the lower testosterone you have, the less likely you are to go with your gut, which to me means the more cut off you are from direct interpretation of reality, right?
	Where instead of a narrow band of your consciousness that you're accepting, the more sensitive you are, the more tuned into reality you are, it's almost like you're opening up that spectrum to all inputs and you're willing to just accept whatever's happening unconsciously almost.
	They cut you off from that.
	They almost take you from being able to accept all of the radio stations at once to like, no, now you're just tuned into one, whatever you're thinking of, and all this other stuff you're blind to.
	So testosterone keeps you standing up against them.
	Religion obviously keeps you standing up against them because if you actually believe in God and believe that submission to God is more important than submission to them, then that's something else they want to remove.
	So systematically, they're removing all of the things that make us able to defend ourselves against their influence.
	Yeah, everything.
	Their coercion.
	And they have so many angles that they're coming at us with.
	And it doesn't stop.
	But one thing I know we can see is technology is biting them in the ass.
	Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, though, isn't it?
	Yeah, they've, I mean, we are at least a century behind technology-wise.
	Like, imagine where we would be if a lot of these things that we know were created, try to get patents for, and were destroyed, these people were killed, and the government now has their technology.
	Case in point, the biggest one is probably Nikolai Tesla.
	Of course.
	If he was able just to explain that to one person, one person turns to two, like we would not, who knows where we would be right now.
	Yeah.
	But they're slow rolling out all this technology, but it's still, at the end of the day, it's going to come up and bite them in the ass because now we have records.
	We can record and anybody can share information so much faster than ever before.
	Yeah.
	So with what happened with Davos now, people were like, oh shit, I can just go to Davos.
	Right, right.
	Well, and they've had to change their strategy.
	The first report I ever did at InfoWars was about that exactly.
	It was called something like translating the globalist language or something like that, where because we were at Bilderberg in Chantilly, Virginia, and they actually gave out brochures that showed the meetings that they were having and the talking points that they were going to be mentioning.
	And so, you know, the point was that 50 years ago, Bilderberg was going on, but they would call you crazy if you even mentioned it.
	I mean, there's stories in BBC, still you can find them, where it's like, conspiracy theorists claim that there's a meeting called Bilderberg, and this is ridiculous and stupid and would never be allowed because it would be treason for these people.
	So they originally said, we've never heard of that.
	We don't know what you're talking about.
	You're crazy.
	But then people like Alex Jones and others forced the topic out.
	Said, look, here's the video of these people going in the hotel.
	Here's the video of the queen.
	Here's a video of the media mogul.
	This is happening.
	So suddenly to these people at the meeting, they went, okay, we can't just say we're not doing this anymore.
	So they changed their tactic to say, yeah, we are doing it.
	And it's because we love you and we're saving the earth.
	And, you know, you can't criticize us for doing this because we know what we're doing and we're doing it because we love you.
	Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove.
	Yeah.
	So again, another one where they had to change their tactic in order to deal with the reality that they were exposed and that they couldn't, it was ridiculous for them to say it wasn't happening anymore.
	So they had to change the way that they talked about it.
	And so they started publishing brochures saying what they were doing.
	And so then if you know how to read the code words in those, then you could figure out sort of what the real topics were that they were talking about.
	So yeah, man, they can't stop the awakening from happening.
	So now they're just desperately trying to control it, which again is just a hilarious thing where it's like the people before who would have called you crazy for saying that the elite get together to plot how to control the world.
	Before these people would have said, you're crazy.
	There's no way that's the case.
	Now they know that's the case.
	They have to know that's the case.
	It's undeniable that's the case because these people have YouTube channels, right?
	The World Economic Forum is not a secret anymore.
	So they have to acknowledge that.
	So somehow they've gotten these people to believe that the billionaires and the royal families and the ruthless foreign industrialists are getting together and meeting in secret outside of the media spotlight because they love you and are saving the earth.
	They never did it.
	It's insane.
	They never did it.
	They never did it, though.
	But actually they did, and it's because they're really nice and they love you.
	They're trying to make a better world for you.
	They're trying to make a better world.
	Yeah.
	And if you don't like it, you're a fascist.
	And like you said, I mean, if it wasn't for, you know, people like Alex and, you know, people who have the balls, Jason Burmes and Mike Hansen, these people who actually had the balls to go to these places.
	Yes.
	And like, no one would have ever believed that Bohemian Grove actually existed.
	They do like a human sacrifice to a giant owl statue.
	It's insane.
	I mean, it's crazy that this is real, but it is.
	It's real, man.
	It definitely is, man.
	It definitely is.
	And like you said, I mean, technology is slowly biting them in the ass.
	So I wonder if it's going to get to like, okay, we have to have, they want the Hunger Games type scenario.
	I mean, is that where these cyber attacks come in?
	Is that where, so when they actually do the drastic things, you can't share it.
	You can't do anything about it.
	You can't, I wonder if, you know, I mean, I'm sure that's part of their plan, but will they be able to be successful with something like that?
	So the thing that I always try to impress on people is that while there is a global conspiracy, there is a global cabal, there are manipulators behind the scenes orchestrating world events to their own ends with the, with the outcome already decided, there are people making diseases in labs and then releasing them on purpose.
	Like, that is true.
	But what's also true is that they are human beings.
	They are not all-powerful.
	They do not control absolutely everything all of the time.
	Not everyone in public is automatically in on it by virtue of having any power at all.
	They still have to contend with humans.
	They have to contend with reality.
	They are not all-powerful.
	They are not all-knowing.
	They do not control absolutely everything all the time.
	So they can fail.
	They can be defeated.
	They can be deceived.
	They can be exposed.
	They're human beings who have to deal with other human beings.
	And those other human beings are us.
	And we can expose them and stop them and fight back against them.
	So there's a dangerous sort of dichotomy of people who go, conspiracy theories are bad and wrong and nobody ever controls anything.
	And then other people who go, you know, Trump's in on it and DeSantis is in on it and Vivek is a plant and Biden's in on it.
	And it's like, okay, hold on.
	Everybody's in on it, literally everyone is in on it.
	Not every advanced.
	I mean, I know people who have said that the whole trial, like Alex Jones' trial and the InfoWars trial was some sort of double play, diverging, divergent.
	And it's like, really?
	Because it's not.
	It's really not.
	I don't know how to tell you.
	Like, some people get sued and have to go to trial and have to defend themselves.
	It sucks.
	And it fucking sucks.
	it fucking sucks.
	And that's what a lot of people don't understand.
	Oh, y'all will be fine.
	Y'all have millions of dollars and this and that.
	Like, the levels they went to to fabricate a bunch of shit during that trial was fucking astronomical.
	And you've called this judge a tyrant, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you actually use that word a lot with your audience.
	You call people tyrants, don't you?
	Only when they act like it.
	Oh!
	Close!
	With a huge shot!
	It's put in!
	And he nailed off the right hand!
	That is the right hand!
	Oh my goodness!
	Kamara's right hand is ridiculous!
	Oh my goodness!
	Oh my goodness!
	One of the things you've been talking about on your show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedophilia, child trafficking, from the grooming of children, right?
	You mean like what Jeffrey Epstein did with the cleanse?
	Oh!
	Close!
	With a huge shot!
	It's put in!
	And he nailed off the right hand!
	That is the right hand!
	Oh my goodness!
	Kamara's right hand is ridiculous!
	But yeah, but then you have people, and that's the thing about that we sort of started this talk with with like feds and the division.
	And I think like our number one concern should always be bringing more people in, which it doesn't mean changing our message, right?
	It doesn't mean lying or not saying the truth.
	It just means recognizing that not everybody is where we are and not everybody is able to step on, you know, to take the first step is the 100th.
	They have to, you know, they have to be eased in sometimes.
	They have to like, you can say, well, don't you know this is true?
	And so if that's true, isn't this?
	You can walk your way in.
	It's so frustrating going that route.
	Oh, having to like walk your way in.
	See, I have to hold people's hands.
	Like with the amount of knowledge and the amount of stuff we talk about and covered, it's like so hard to be like, okay, you want to start a square one?
	It's like, okay, well, you know, I wish people were on square one.
	Most people are on square negative 100.
	And it's like, well, I don't even know where to begin with you.
	It's like, oh, look, I told you, look, I Googled this and it says this is from a White Ring site.
	And it's like, you know.
	It's like, I don't even know where to begin and how to like.
	It's going to manipulate your search results to show, display whatever they want you to see, right?
	Right.
	And they're just just at that very basic point, their mind begins to break.
	Like, Google, right, right.
	What search result?
	There's other places to do.
	I can't talk to you about this.
	I'm fucking leaving.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Bro, so.
	Right.
	Or it's like, it's like, yeah, but that's the thing, right?
	If they point to an article, it's like, okay, to debunk this article, I have to explain to you how the media itself is utterly corrupt and completely untrustworthy.
	So it's like, you can't deal with one issue.
	You almost have to explain the whole of the issue.
	So I've told this story on air, but I was talking to a really good friend of mine at a wedding recently, and I wanted to bring up something.
	We were talking about Israel and Gaza, and I wanted to illustrate a point of how governments will do bad things sometimes to certain people, whatever.
	And so I brought up the fact that the CIA was drug running in ghettos in the 80s.
	As an example, to illustrate my other point, thinking that this was something that everybody knew and everybody like, you know, it was something that I thought you could just bring up to annoy me and they would be like, I thought it had permeated to the mainstream.
	And so I brought up, you know, just like, yeah, so, you know, it's like the CIA when they were selling drugs in the ghetto in LA in the 80s.
	And my friend was just like, what?
	And I was like, oh, you don't know about that?
	Like, you know, to me, it's kind of funny.
	So they're like, that's, and I'm like, no, no, no.
	There were congressional hearings.
	It was a part of Iran-Contra.
	There are books.
	Gary Webb wrote a book called Dark Alliance.
	He was killed with two shots in the back of his head and they called it a suicide.
	Like, this is confirmed.
	This is very real and everybody knows it.
	But it's like, I forget how people don't even know sort of that basic stuff.
	So how are they going to have the higher level?
	So, but then, and I want to get your, your view on this, because she said to me, isn't that a scared way to live?
	I said, what do you mean?
	And she says, you know, if you're, if you live in a world where you think the government is doing this stuff to people, aren't you living in fear?
	Isn't that a scared way to live?
	And I was kind of flabbergasted at that because I was kind of just like, no, it's just happening.
	My fear or not is not, doesn't affect the reality.
	It's like, you know, the sky is blue.
	Aren't you living in fear?
	It's just blue.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	Like, this is just the fact.
	It's living in fear to not address it.
	It's living in fear to block it out.
	Like Zaphod Biebelbrosch.
	You ever read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
	No, I've seen the movie.
	Okay, so Zaphod, the president of the universe, has sunglasses that when something scary happens, they just go totally opaque and black.
	That's like the normie reaction.
	It's like when they hear something or see something that doesn't comport with what they saw before, the reaction is just like, you don't see it.
	Block out.
	Just no vision at all.
	It didn't happen.
	Yeah.
	And that's their ideology on 90% of life for them.
	It's like they're not going to, like they said, don't you live in fear?
	Like they're afraid of living in fear.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, no, we don't even have that thought.
	We just live.
	And that's what's going on.
	You said, that's the reality of it, no matter how I feel about it.
	So yeah, ignoring it is complying.
	Right.
	And it's living in fear and is being scared of the truth.
	And if the truth is scary, okay.
	Like that's, you know, it's like, you know, it's like saying, oh, you know, don't pay attention to that sign that says caution cliff nearby because that means you're living in fear.
	No, I want to know where the cliff is so I can avoid it.
	I'm not, I'm not, I don't have cliffophobia.
	I'm not scared of the cliff.
	It's just I need to know what's happening in the world around me because there are dangerous things.
	I need to know how to navigate.
	Yeah.
	I need to have a holistic view of what's happening around me and the things that my government is doing.
	And it just, yeah, man, it's, I don't know.
	It always seemed obvious to me.
	Was it always obvious to you?
	Always.
	And I'll tell you, I had this conversation with my mom when I was like six years old.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I was like, hey, that's what you always do.
	Okay, I don't think it's.
	I don't think I was awake at six.
	We were in the bathroom brushing our teeth before to go to school.
	And I just looked down and I was like, oh, there's toothpaste is here.
	Started reading the toothpaste label.
	And it says, Fluoride.
	This is poison.
	Yeah.
	It says poisonous if swallowed.
	Harmful if swallowed.
	Called poison control, this and that.
	And I'm just like, that's weird.
	I'm putting this in my mouth.
	Yeah, I was like, this is weird.
	I was like, mom, I was like.
	Everybody has to brush their teeth, right?
	Or everybody brushes their teeth.
	She's like, yeah.
	I go, so if there was something they wanted to do to everybody, they could probably just put it in your toothpaste.
	Interesting.
	She's like, what are you talking about?
	And I was like, well, the chemicals in the water.
	Yeah, and it's just like, yeah, it's that whole moment from like, I go where all the numbers are going.
	I'm just like, they could do that with food, with, with water, with toothpaste.
	Right.
	And my mom was just like, I remember it clear as day because I was, I, everything changed that day for me.
	Wow.
	Like a whole different lookout.
	I hated school.
	That's hilarious.
	Everything was just like, oh man, this is, and I kind of, I kind of, after there was no answer, I started looking for other things that didn't have answer.
	Right.
	So that's when I kind of, I would ask questions at like CCD class.
	Yeah.
	Like, and they're just like, well, that's just how it is.
	I'm like, that's not an answer you tell a kid.
	You're not going to win an argument with telling a curious kid just because.
	Yeah.
	You know, and that's really interesting because, and again, it sort of relates to everything else that we're talking about.
	Because the only really example I can think of that I have when I was a little kid was like, I thought I was a genius because I figured out I was like, wait a second.
	I'd gotten the message.
	I'd received the message somehow that white people weren't supposed to talk about race.
	And I just remember being like, probably in second grade being like, wait a second, if all the other races can talk about race, but white people can't, isn't that like a superiority thing?
	Isn't it like saying like, well, you can talk about race.
	You're brown.
	You know, it's like, nobody's offended.
	Isn't that kind of racist?
	Like, isn't that kind of racist?
	Isn't that saying that like there's something different about white people that like, well, we don't want to make the other people feel bad by talking about ourselves?
	So I remember sort of thinking that.
	So there's something about just like applying kid logic to stuff.
	You know, we were talking about skits earlier.
	I've always wanted to do a skit.
	I don't even know if you'd have to make it.
	I could just do it with my son probably, of like the kid asking why over and over.
	And basically that leads to unraveling the entire conspiracy, you know, where it's like, oh, we got to, you know.
	Why is there Florida in our water?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Why is there, you know, in our water and toothpaste?
	Well, because they want to do this and that.
	Yeah, and it just keeps going and going and going, right?
	Yeah, it's a great idea.
	Why do we do this?
	Well, because that's the law.
	Why are there laws?
	Well, because, you know, and it just like break down the entire globalist conspiracy, just like getting frustrated, being like, look, because there are men in power that control the money to be out, you know, like just going down because that really is all.
	You just need to have that like little kid mentality of just like, explain this to me.
	You know, like, I'm not going to accept what you say.
	This doesn't make sense to me.
	You need to explain it.
	Little kids have that.
	I guess adults just like defer to the existence.
	Yeah.
	I tried to quit seventh grade.
	Did you really?
	Yeah, and I just was like, I started what do they call quiet quitting.
	Oh, yeah.
	Man, you were a trendsetter early on.
	This is dumb.
	I was like, I don't.
	Why am I taking pre-algebra?
	I took pre-algebra, and that's when it like ultimate trigger.
	I was like, my entire life, it was two plus two equals four, A, B, C, D. I get to school one day.
	It's like 2x plus 3x equals what?
	I'm just like, I'm looking around.
	Everybody's like, that's hard.
	Look at this.
	And I'm just like, I dude, I got so frustrated.
	It brought me to tears.
	And I'm just like, I just walked out.
	I went to the hallway and they're like, what's wrong?
	I was like, this is dumb.
	Numbers and letters don't go together my entire life.
	And you're just really going to change it right now and say that I'm dumb because I don't know.
	I don't grasp this concept.
	Well, no one's saying you're dumb.
	Like, no, I feel dumb because this doesn't make any fucking sense.
	Either I'm dumb or you people are dumb.
	And I just didn't do, I didn't want to do it.
	I didn't do it.
	That's hilarious.
	And then I was just like, I had a parent meeting, a parent-teacher conference, and they were just like, my mom was like, I don't know what to do with him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know what to do with him.
	He objects to algebra as a concept.
	I don't know.
	He doesn't want to go to school anymore.
	He doesn't, I said, I told him he can't play sports.
	He's like, it didn't matter to me.
	And then I started thinking about, you know, what I was learning in English and I was taking a reading class.
	I was like, why are we still having reading class?
	And the reading teacher was like, looking at me and I'm just like, why?
	I know how to read.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	In English, they refer books to us to read.
	Why don't we read those books in reading class?
	And you can break it down and then that could help us in our English class.
	Yeah.
	Dude, it is one of that's funny.
	I was like very similar in like middle school and all through high school, especially because I made movies in middle school and was just like, I'm going to make movies.
	So like, I don't need chemistry.
	Like, I just, I don't need math.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't need math.
	I'm not going to ever use math.
	And I know that already.
	I get that all these kids don't know what they're going to do.
	Maybe they'll need math in the future.
	I'm never going to need math.
	So yeah, just like that, that aspect of like, why, why are we doing this?
	This doesn't make any sense.
	And also, I don't need you to teach me this stuff.
	Give me the book.
	I'll read the book.
	Yeah.
	You learn a lot more sometimes when you're like, you know, when you're a little advanced in school, teachers are like, okay, I don't really have to worry about you.
	So it's like, there's a lot of times you have to figure out shit on your own because they want to challenge you.
	And then they're just stuck helping other children as well.
	Yeah.
	So it puts you, and I think kids like us, that helped us get ahead a little bit.
	It's just because, okay, I don't want to do this.
	I have to do this.
	And then I got to figure it out too.
	So it's like, I'm just going to do this as fast as possible.
	So that way I don't, I'm done with this.
	That is exactly the correct way to approach high school is here is here is a construct Of rules and checkpoints that you have to hit, do it in the most efficient way possible, sort of thing, right?
	Like, find as many loopholes as you possibly can, find ways around what they want you to do.
	Because, really, at the end of the day, you got to check certain boxes.
	You got to have certain grades in certain classes.
	You got to have certain credits, you know, in certain topics.
	But it doesn't mean you have to go to class every day.
	It doesn't mean that, you know, you got to actually take that.
	Dude, and I mean, my whole high school was insane about that because, you know, I made it a, so I have a good story that it's not my story, but I think it illustrates sort of like this, this mentality.
	My friend, most of my friends went to this school called Bel Air in Houston.
	And if you went to Bel Air, you had to park sort of in the neighborhood and you had to pay for a parking permit.
	And if you didn't pay for a parking permit, you had to park really far away.
	And it was just a pain in the ass.
	And so what my friend figured out was that if you just showed up late to school, all of the buses in the front leave in the first period and you can just park there all day and it's just a parking spot.
	But you know, if you show up on time, you can't park there.
	But if you show up late, then you don't have to pay for a parking spot.
	It's free.
	It's the most convenient parking spot because it's right outside the front door, right?
	It's like you actually, it's actually tons of benefits for just disobeying the rules or doing something that nobody else has thought of.
	And they can't do crap about it because it's a parking spot and you're parking there.
	What are they going to do?
	It just meant you had to leave a little bit early.
	You had to get there a little bit late and leave a little bit early so the buses could use the lane.
	But that sort of idea of like, the rule is that you park here and you have to pay this permit and da-da-da-da-da and da-da-da-da.
	And you just have to like, I'm going to ignore all that.
	My rule is I have to park my car at school.
	How am I going to do it?
	And you just, you just sort of forge your own way.
	Dude, that's hilarious.
	I kind of had a story like that too.
	So junior, senior year, I was still getting dropped off and I didn't want to take the bus.
	I didn't want to, it was just, I don't like all that commotion.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like going into, you don't want to go into a crowded concert unless you have to.
	You don't go to crowded places unless you absolutely have to.
	Especially not if it's on wheels, you know, and in traffic.
	So my mom would take me to school and there was a lot of traffic with the buses.
	And, you know, my school wasn't the smartest.
	At first, everybody was getting dropped off in the same area, buses and parent drop-offs.
	So I was like, yeah.
	And my mom was like, I'm not doing that.
	That's dumb.
	I'm like, yeah, like, you can drop me off at the corner or we can, well, we just be a little late.
	It's perfect with me.
	So when they finally switched it over and it would still, you know, kids were parking there.
	It's a junior year.
	Everybody has cars and shit.
	So my mom would be like, yeah, I'm not doing that.
	Like, I'm, all right.
	I was like, cool.
	And the first 15, 20 minutes was just announcements anyways.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not missing absolutely missing absolutely nothing.
	So I'd get to school probably 15, 20 minutes late every day.
	And my teacher would be like, why you're late?
	Or some girls?
	Why are you late?
	I was like, listen, man, I try to tell you this is what's going on.
	And they just didn't believe me.
	Yeah.
	Didn't believe me.
	So then one day he's really upset, right?
	This is your like 15th tardy.
	I was like, okay.
	And I was like, you want to, do you want to talk to my mom?
	You want to call my mom?
	I was like, she's probably still trying to get out of here.
	I was like, I can go get her right now if you want to do this.
	And she was like, well, I would love to talk to your mom.
	I was like, okay, cool.
	Here's her number.
	I wrote it down.
	And he called her during lunch.
	And he comes back.
	He's like, I'm sorry, Mr. Gross.
	And I was like, you got a good mom.
	You talked to my mom, didn't you?
	He's like, she's like, and I was like, I tried to tell you, man.
	Like, it's, it's, and what did she say?
	Everything that you told me.
	Right.
	All right.
	And what am I actually missing in class?
	All right, Mr. Gross, you made your point.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's like, bro, I don't know what else to tell you.
	Yeah, stop trying to make me stick these little pointless rules that aren't actually there for any reason.
	No.
	And I get you need that for the people.
	Everybody needs rules, but like, come on.
	I can handle this.
	Exactly.
	Clearly, I'm above the thinking grade of the rest of these people to where I like, I beat the system.
	It's okay to beat the system sometimes.
	I was trying to punish people who are winning.
	Dude, it, well, and the system is, that's the thing.
	The system is there to be beaten.
	System is there to take advantage of because actually, if you learn the ins and outs of the system, you can have infinite freedom.
	And it's like, but if you do what you're supposed to, if you do what you're told, if you take the system at face value, then you're just filling check, you know, you're just checking check boxes and doing what they tell you.
	But so like in my school, I was a little bit lucky because I had an older sister that went to the school before, and her friend was in charge of the cable television program that we had.
	So our announcements were like a live TV show.
	So the kids would learn how to run cameras and do switchers and present the news and all this sort of stuff.
	They never let us do that.
	They just let us get in front of the camera.
	Oh, yeah?
	This was awesome.
	I mean, it was like high-tech.
	This is public school in Houston, but it was like, it was a live show.
	It was high-tech.
	The class would go out and make packages of reports that you would pitch to.
	I mean, it was cool.
	It was really awesome.
	And so because I made movies in middle school, my sister's friend knew that I could join this cable television show in freshman year when you weren't supposed to.
	So as a freshman, I joined this class.
	And of course, I just knew how to edit and I knew how to put stuff together.
	And it's not difficult.
	So, you know, the teacher just loved me.
	So then the next year, or even maybe the next semester, the teacher of that class was like, he basically just wanted me in the classroom as much as possible, just like doing stuff.
	And so, you know, he took the, he took the class schedule and saw the credits that I required.
	So I was like, okay, I got to take a semester of business.
	I got to take a semester of computer science.
	I got to take a semester of typing, like all this stuff.
	And he just, I didn't even ask him to do it, but he just went through and went, okay, yeah, we can fulfill the business requirement.
	We can fulfill the, you know, typing requirement.
	And so he just got the office to sign off.
	So instead of business and typing and computer science, I just had cable television, cable television, cable television.
	And then you could get passes with the cable television.
	And so then you could skip every other class because you just go to them and you go, hey, I got to go cover this event.
	It's urgent.
	I got to be there.
	So, man, I just, I literally ended up leaving that school because it was like I was like too efficient at screwing the system over to where I like didn't have any reason to go to school anymore.
	And I was just like, I'm gonna drop out.
	This is not worth it to like keep going to school and just twiddling my thumbs all day, doing whatever the hell I want.
	Yeah, which was great, but yeah, so the system is there to be screwed over.
	Screw the system, man.
	Do what you need to as the bare minimum.
	I had the same thing where like being late to class constantly.
	Uh, and this one, this one teacher I had, the first period was algebra.
	And I was the same as you where like, I was like, I don't need math.
	I don't need chemistry.
	I'm not going to put extra effort into this.
	So I was like advanced, whatever, gifted and talented in all the other classes, but for math and science, I was like, I'm just doing regulars.
	I just want to be in the regular class.
	And so I don't know if people realize, and I'm sure it's even worse today, public schools in America pretty much are still segregated.
	But because they try to have the advanced class and the non-advanced class in the same system, it just means that the non-advanced class just becomes a complete, completely disregarded.
	They don't give a damn.
	And that was the real reason I left that school is because literally I would go to my biology class and it would be like, agenda for the day, turn in your homework.
	And it was like, you're not even trying to teach us anything.
	You're not even remotely trying to engage your students.
	This is nothing.
	My freshman year is the last year I took math.
	I took it for the first half of our first semester.
	And it was, I don't know if it was pre, it was algebra two or pre-Cal, but it was the last, I needed to take one math in high school, no matter what it was.
	And that's all I needed to take.
	Right.
	Just one math class for one semester.
	And I'm like, but of course, freshman, sophomore, and junior year, you still have to take the standardized test.
	So I did that.
	Well, in that classroom, that's what was happening.
	It's like, okay, we're going to go over this and then you do your homework assignment, whether you finish it here or you finish it at home.
	Like you learned this and we're doing this and just that one paper.
	Right.
	Like a worksheet every day.
	And he didn't care if anybody copied.
	Right.
	So it's like, okay.
	He goes, you can copy if you want, but you're only hurting yourself because you're not learning anything.
	And I'm like, I'm going to copy.
	I don't.
	And then I don't have to like the standardized test is not pre-algebra or it's not algebra too or it's not pre-cal.
	Right.
	Right.
	It's like your basic math up to, you know, what the lowest standards they have.
	Up until what, like your senior year, just the lowest standards.
	So it was to the point to where I didn't have to, I didn't take math after that.
	I didn't take it my sophomore year, my junior year, or my senior year.
	But my junior year, I still had to, one of the senior and senior year, I think, I had to test out of it.
	So it's like, I didn't take math, literally any of the math that was on that test since like seventh grade.
	Right.
	And this was, and this was in my, my senior year.
	Yeah.
	So I'm, the math that's on your senior, you see, you're dealing with the senior year is from seventh grade.
	Right, right.
	So it's like, okay, so maybe I was right in seventh grade.
	Like, I don't, what the fuck am I doing here?
	Obviously, I don't need this anymore.
	Well, you know.
	If you have one bucket that holds two gallons and another bucket that holds five gallons, how many buckets do you have?
	Two.
	Thank you.
	Lord, I'm one of us to get the mind.
	A time over time.
	This is why I'm not.
	What are we doing at the White House?
	What?
	Ow!
	It turned out the results of Joe's IQ test had caught the attention of the highest levels of government.
	Okay, wait a minute.
	I'm the smartest guy in the world?
	It says who?
	The IQ test you took in prison.
	You got the highest score in history.
	Brought to you by Carls Jr.
	Yeah, dumbass, you've been smarter than President Camacho.
	That's how come he's making you Secretary of Interior.
	You know, I think there's been some kind of mistake because the test I took was real, real easy.
	I am not the smartest guy in the world.
	Okay?
	So you smart, huh?
	No?
	I thought you here would be bigger.
	I intend to take the InfoWars armored truck out, or the InfoWars tank, as it's so lovingly called.
	She came through yesterday and shopped at InfoWarsStore.com.
	So I'm going to be able to take the truck out.
	Ooh, the last turbo force.
	Ooh, TurboForce.
	These guys don't even know you get the canister now.
	Get the all-new TurboForce Plus at InfowarStore.com.
	Now it's shareable.
	You know what I figured out early on is that taking the standardized test is not required and there is no retest.
	So that's another one of these things where it's like, oh, so taking this test is basically optional.
	So I'm going to opt out.
	How did I not know that then?
	That's the thing.
	You got to learn the system.
	You got to learn what you actually need to do and what is optional.
	And you don't do what's optional.
	And there's no recourse.
	You know, there's nothing that happens to you.
	All right.
	So I got a question and it's just, it's turning and turning on me.
	Yeah.
	What kind of videos were you fucking making as a middle schooler?
	Oh, hilarious ones.
	They're great.
	I'm thinking, I'm looking back and thinking of like theater class, like how much fun like they had.
	I did a wood shop.
	I was right next door.
	I could hear the amount of fun they were having.
	Right, right.
	and I'm over here working on wood.
	So, like, what, as a middle school kid, like...
	It's the secret behind my success in high school and middle school.
	Well, it's probably different now.
	It's probably different now.
	Back in the day, I'm talking about we were on tape, right?
	There was no such thing as HD when I started, right?
	So we were filming on mini DV, and I was burning.
	There was no YouTube.
	There was no video hosting internet site.
	So I would film a movie and then burn it onto a DVD and sell DVDs for $5 a piece in the hallway in middle school.
	But what I learned was that if you had a camera, you kind of do whatever the hell you wanted.
	It was awesome.
	So all through high school and middle school, if you just had a camera, nobody would stop you from doing anything.
	So in eighth grade, yeah, in eighth grade, I got a camera and we had this one period that was kind of like a free period and it was kind of like your homeroom teacher could kind of do whatever they wanted.
	So like some homeroot teachers would be like, this is your reading hour.
	Others ones would be like, this is going to be our, you know, go outside hour, whatever it is.
	So in that hour, I just asked my teacher, like, can I go make a movie in the cafeteria?
	And they said, yes.
	And so I just, every day, and when that period came around, I would just go hang out in the cafeteria.
	It would be totally empty.
	And we would just mess around and make movies.
	And like other people, I would like see, we would just be running around the hallways, like doing whatever the hell we wanted.
	And we'd see other people.
	They'd be like, what are you doing?
	We'd be like, we're making a movie.
	Come help.
	And like, so they would come help us.
	And like, it became kind of a thing.
	So give me like a storyline.
	Give me like something like that.
	The first movie I ever made was called Unus Studios Pingas Le Bir at Sumesca.
	Let's show that real quick.
	Which was a very early.
	Yeah.
	It's how it sounds.
	It's a very early on.
	Again, this is like early days of the internet.
	You're talking about this fucking name in your eighth grade.
	Well, I translated a phrase.
	Surah fucking nerd.
	Yeah, well, I wanted to give it a grandiose title.
	That's a badass name, though.
	I'm just jealous.
	I'm talking shit because I'm jealous.
	Well, all I did was I put the phrase into a translate to Latin app or whatever.
	There weren't apps back then, I'm sorry.
	The website, whatever website, you know, translatelatin.org or whatever.
	And the term is a study of a fat child and fries.
	That was the perfect name for it.
	I apologize.
	We're talking shit because you can't sell that.
	Unas pingas studias lembir et zumesca.
	A study of a fat boy eating fries or something like that.
	So yeah, it was a, you know, we're in middle school and my friend told me this story where he's like, yeah, he's saying that he was in, he was at lunch and this kid left fries sitting on the table and like slowly but surely, all of these like fat kids started coming up and like stealing the fries from him.
	And I just thought that was hysterical.
	And so the movie, and I got my, my somewhat overweight friend who was a very funny dude.
	He was he was one of the theater kids.
	That was like very funny.
	And so yeah, the whole movie is a kid buying fries and sets them on the table and then like goes to get ketchup.
	And then it like zooms across the cafeteria and there's a kid like looking and he's like, so it's him like diving under the table and like sneaking to steal these fries.
	And then he steals the fries and the guy shows back up and he tries to run and trips and the last shot is him like falling and there's just like fries raining down.
	It was fun.
	It was badass.
	Do you still have that?
	Oh yeah, they're all, yeah.
	Dude, we should be so dude.
	We should play that on.
	I need that file so we can play it when this podcast airs.
	No, well, we'd have to dig it up.
	No, I have literally a hundred mini DVs that last year I just went through and just copied them all over.
	So I have like digital copies of all this, which, man, you know, there's a beauty with physical media.
	Oh, for sure.
	That is you just don't have it with digital media.
	You can just take something and just throw it in a closet and 10 years later pull it out and, you know, it's exactly, you know, what it was when you left.
	I mean, I guess that's the same with digital, but it just feels different.
	There's just a different.
	I mean, they kind of cut that off with DVDs.
	Yeah.
	You know, there's Blu-ray, but even then, I think it's a little too advanced.
	Yeah, dude.
	Physical media is where it's at.
	So yeah.
	And yeah, dude, I made lots of stuff.
	So yeah, I did that all through, like literally before YouTube was a thing.
	Yeah.
	Like I was, I actually went, so my dad actually took me to CES in Vegas the year that Google Video was announced.
	Oh, shit.
	So I remember that very clearly.
	And it was like, you know, because I was like into movie making, my dad was going to CES for his job and was like, hey, you should come along and see all the new like video technology.
	And that was the first year that they released Google Video because YouTube had just come out.
	I think this was 2005, 6, I guess.
	And it was also the first HD consumer camcorder that Canon came out with, which was that big curved looking thing.
	Oh, that was so awesome.
	That was so cool.
	That's when YouTube was everybody's, what's up, YouTube?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was everybody's tagline.
	See, man, and I totally missed the boat.
	I was such a snob about it That I refused to go on YouTube.
	Like, we refused to go on YouTube.
	It was me and a group of friends that would make these movies.
	We don't need YouTube.
	But we were making films.
	We wanted to make films.
	We wanted to be Wes Anderson.
	We didn't want to be some YouTuber, you know?
	So to us, it was like we used to upload everything to Google Video because it was like, and then Vimeo, because it was like, we don't want people, we're not YouTube.
	We're not just like some trash that you just bang out.
	It's like we have production and characters and costumes.
	Yeah, we were making short films that are funny.
	We're not just like throwing shit together.
	But man, now looking back, I'm like, damn, I could have been like fucking PewDiePie.
	I was on the very, very forefront if I'd embraced YouTube, if I'd realized what it was going to be.
	But that was also never what I wanted.
	I wanted to make movies.
	Okay.
	So growing up, I mean, obviously, I would say you're growing up as a filmmaker.
	You're making movies.
	You're doing this.
	So where does your red pill moment come in?
	What made you realize, damn, this world is not what to make it seem?
	What set you on your journey to get you to where you're at now?
	That's a good question.
	I think it's just a bunch of different things that build up.
	I think that growing up, my parents were very conservative and Republican.
	So I remember in elementary school not understanding that there were people that liked Bill Clinton.
	Because the only time I heard about him was my parents talking about him, and they fucking hated Bill Clinton.
	So, you know, my growing up, I understood that, like, there's this guy called the president.
	He runs the country, and he's a fucking scumbag, lying, sex dog, right?
	And it's like, so, so growing up, it was kind of just like anti-authority.
	And I remember being in like middle school and being like, somebody being like, yeah, my parents love Clinton.
	I was like, what?
	Like, people like that guy?
	I just sort of assumed it was a thing that we were ruled by a person we despised.
	So anyway, so sort of always just grew up in a conservative household.
	You know, my dad, I don't even know how accurate this is, but my dad would always sort of tell me about like religion that like, you know, my mom was Catholic.
	She converted to Episcopalian, but my dad was raised Episcopalian.
	And he would always be like, you know, Episcopalians aren't afraid to question things.
	We don't say that you just have to take things on faith, even if you don't understand it.
	We want you to question things because we have reasons, because there's, you don't just have to accept what the book says.
	Ask why, figure out why, learn, you know, be open to this.
	There's a purpose behind curiosity.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Curiosity wasn't quashed.
	It was sort of embraced.
	So I was just always raised in this atmosphere of like conservative politics and Christianity, but also open-mindedness and, you know, being open to questioning things.
	And so it was definitely middle school.
	It was Alex Jones for sure, Bohemian Grove, Loose Change.
	Well, I was in sixth grade when 9-11.
	That's how my kids are going to grow up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh my God.
	My son is two and a half and he's obsessed with airplanes now.
	And so, of course, when he's like, what are those lines in the sky?
	I'm like, those are all chemtrails.
	And so now whenever he sees like chemtrails, I'm like, that's right, son.
	That certainly is.
	Yeah, it's, but at the same time.
	Yeah, you know, you don't want the kids.
	Yeah, yeah, you don't want the kid thrown up thinking, you know.
	But no, so I was in sixth grade when 9-11 happened.
	And then I was lucky enough that like all through middle school, for some reason, I always had like every class with this dude, John, my friend John, who John, we call him Lebanon John or John from Houston.
	He calls in a lot, right?
	He does these videos.
	So I went to middle school with him and we were in the same class every class for all three years.
	Strangely, huge school, but we just happened to always be like exactly together.
	And so they would show these news reports in Homeroom that were like, you know, it was like CNN for kids, channel one.
	And so every day we know.
	Just like straight up propaganda, just like propaganda for children.
	And he would, you know, he's Lebanese and his family's Lebanese.
	So they're at home watching Al Jazeera and, you know, whatever other mysterious Lebanese channel.
	So he's getting the real news about what's going on in the Middle East and Iraq and all this stuff.
	And so like I have very distinct memories of like being in homeroom class and watching this, you know, Osama bin Laden has come out with another tape from his cave hideout in Afghanistan.
	Here it is, right?
	And it's Osama saying things.
	That's crazy.
	They showed you all that and fucking.
	Well, it was the news, you know, it was like this was the big news story of the day.
	It was Osama bin Laden is delivering dispatches from his cave.
	And I just remember my friend John just leaning over and being like, that's not what they're saying.
	That's not what he's saying, right?
	The subtitles are wrong.
	I speak Arabic.
	It's completely different than what they're saying.
	Or like, you know, pointing out like, well, you know, Muslim men aren't allowed to wear gold and this guy's wearing gold.
	That's not really Osama bin Laden.
	So basically in middle school was sort of this introduction to this idea of like, oh, everything can be fake?
	I didn't know that.
	Thanks for telling me.
	I didn't realize that literally everything they're telling us might be wholesale bullshit.
	And so, of course, then you start asking questions and we, you know, grew up just in lockstep with the internet, basically, right?
	So, you know, by the time AIM was around, I was like in elementary school.
	And then by the time MySpace was around, I was in middle school.
	So it was almost like the middle school of the internet was my middle school.
	And so, you know, obviously I was just on the internet always.
	And you'd come across late at night a mysterious video talking about human sacrifice in the Bohemian Grove.
	And like, I almost missed those.
	I miss those times, right?
	The awakening times when like, and it was all, it's always staying up late.
	I'm a big night owl.
	I'll just stay up all night doing stuff like this.
	And, and you're just watching, you know, Alex Jones break down the lies that you're hearing or the fact that they're doing a human sacrifice in Bohemian Grove or whatever it was.
	And you just feel that like, like, okay, this feels illegal to know, right?
	The meme of like, what's something illegal to know?
	You just get that like thrill and you almost start feeling dizzy.
	Like, I remember at one point, I don't know, this is such a rap.
	I know that feeling you're talking about.
	This is how I started when Burning DVDs for me.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like that feeling.
	You're like, holy fuck, like, okay, this is a process and like I, but I probably shouldn't be doing it.
	But everything I'm doing is like, it's fucking like skateboarding videos.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like in middle school, we used to pass around, you remember the floppy disks?
	Of course.
	Yeah, so we would put pictures of cars on there.
	And that was our currency.
	We'd trade floppy disks of certain things.
	I used to print out, you know, prototypical memes, right?
	Like, you'd go to like funnyjunk.com and just like print out something to show your friend in school.
	Like, yeah, the bridge between the internet and everything else.
	But no, burning DVDs was that feeling for me.
	It's like, damn, man, like, my friend.
	No, no, my friends had it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I didn't really have, we had a computer, but we didn't really have the internet yet.
	So my friend had the internet next door, and that was dial-up.
	That's when you take the AOL free disc of how many hours you get in there, you put it on your phone.
	You know, you can use the phone.
	Exactly.
	It's like taking 20 minutes just to go to one, their first site after just dialing up.
	All the sounds.
	And I would do my research at school.
	So like when I learned in high school that you can get credit for being like an aide, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to library.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like I get access to the computers.
	I could go there.
	Hey, I just need to look up something.
	They're not going to, I'm an aide, so they're not even going to question me if I'm in there at a random time.
	So that's when I started researching stuff.
	And I remember going into high school when we got internet.
	And I think that's when like kind of the censorship kind of started reeling in for me because I was being able, being at school, like, okay, I have access to the internet like whenever I want.
	So that's when I was doing my binging and I was learning about, you know, started with cars and then it went into, I wasn't really, I didn't really get into politics until after high school.
	But I would start looking at, you know, certain things.
	Actually, I did, when I found Alex Jones, this was 2000, probably six.
	And I was, I graduated in 07. So yeah, my sophomore, half of my, the second half of my sophomore year and junior year.
	And I'd be like, okay, what is this?
	Like, what do you mean?
	Like, and this was during, who was in, yeah, this is when there was going from a Bush to Obama.
	So there was like politics was just everywhere now.
	It was just getting ramped up.
	And I was like, why is everybody like in San Antonio, everybody went from loving Bush to hating him and loving Obama?
	Right.
	And I was just like, this doesn't make any sense.
	So I started researching stuff.
	And then that's when they started keeping track your search history.
	Yeah.
	So then they'd be like, I get called into the office.
	Oh, at school they were looking at it.
	And they were like, hey, Rob, somebody, and it started because I left something in the printer.
	And it was just like this, it was just a question, basically.
	I was like, why does everybody hate Bush now and love Obama?
	And it was just like, they're like, what is this?
	I was just like, that's a question.
	And they were like, whoa, whoa.
	Like, why?
	Yeah.
	And they kind of were just like, oh, shit, that's a question.
	I was like, am I in trouble for a question?
	And they were like, well, no, it's just you're, you've been looking at a lot of things that most kids don't look at on the internet.
	And I was like, how do y'all know what I'm looking at on the internet?
	Right.
	And then I was just like, oh, the very next year they installed like $2 million worth of technology.
	Ad block and shit.
	And they do, we had cameras down every, it was literally like a prison.
	My high school turned into a prison into my junior year.
	And that's when they started implementing those things.
	So me just asking a question and, you know, I didn't even ask them the question.
	They found the question.
	That's interesting.
	That they started cracking down.
	So then I would just keep looking stuff up, man, and looking stuff up.
	And I learned how, you know, private windows and stuff like that.
	And at that point, I just like, oh, it's for research purposes.
	That's when I understood, you know, oh, and then they're like, oh, okay, fine.
	It's like, oh, it's for politics.
	It's for American history or for economics.
	And then there's.
	But yeah, nobody, you know, nobody ever starts looking into that stuff with like a plan for it, right?
	I mean, you just have to look into it because just out of sheer intellectual curiosity.
	You just have to go, I want to know what's being hidden from me here.
	And like, hope, you know, eventually maybe that becomes something, a career, or maybe it just becomes whatever.
	But, you know, nobody starts off going, okay, I have a plan.
	I'm going to become a conspiracy theorist.
	It just takes like literally just intellectual curiosity to, again, just ask why, but why?
	But okay, that makes sense.
	But why is this?
	You know, and just you just, you just, for your own satisfaction, you want to know what's really going on.
	And man, that can lead you down some crazy, crazy rabbit holes, man.
	Yeah.
	So what is your, what is your favorite?
	What is your all-time favorite conspiracy?
	My all-time favorite conspiracy.
	Or your biggest conspiracy.
	It's not even necessarily a conspiracy.
	Let me rephrase that.
	This is absolutely a conspiracy that I'm about to prove right now.
	Let's give some red meat to the conspiracy theorists, but this is just reality.
	The Fukushima earthquake caused the migrant crisis in Europe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's that's that's it.
	No, it's okay, so.
	No, no, no, like to us, it's like, well, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get a chain of events.
	But yeah, basically.
	So, you know, there's a lot of conspiracies about Fukushima.
	It seems very much like it was a thing done by design, and there's a lot of things that, you know, you can look into that.
	But at that time that Fukushima happened, where there was a big earthquake and the nuclear facility got flooded and it, you know, there was a big disaster, Germany was in an election year, and the two parties were basically the pro-nuclear, anti-nuclear party.
	And because Fukushima happened, the anti-nuclear party won, like that put them over the top because suddenly everybody was like, oh, crap, maybe nuclear is not a good idea.
	the person who won that election was Angela Merkel, who would go on to be the one to open the floodgates of Europe to the Middle East.
	So if it weren't for that CIA earthquake machine in Fukushima, Japan, she would have never won the election and she never would have been in place to...
	When was that?
	It must have been 2012, something like that.
	Holy shit.
	Maybe.
	So she's going to.
	She just passed.
	She's on 12 years of.
	Well, she's not the person anymore.
	No, but she was the one who was instrumental in opening not just Germany, but all of the EU up to the migrants.
	Isn't that crazy?
	Like, she's still in the mix, like, she's running shit.
	Dude.
	It's fucking crazy.
	These people, they're all, she, like all of them, they're Literally a vowed communist.
	They are childless.
	They are mostly appointed to their positions.
	And most of them, you know, Merkel was East German, you know, communist product.
	But Vander Leyen, you know, the people at the World Economic Forum now, I mean, they're literally royal fans.
	What's her name Maxima?
	Yeah, the Queen of the Netherlands.
	yeah Yeah, so they all.
	How long do you think they're going to rule?
	For a thousand years, no.
	Man, I don't know, dude.
	It's not been going well.
	I think this whole migrant replacement, replacement migration is going to bite them in the ass because these people are going to realize that these rulers are the people who are going to put them in the hunger game situation.
	And when you have that many people, especially in Europe, that are coming over and they are able to generate on the masses like that.
	Imagine, like, just, for an example, our BLM riots here.
	Imagine if every city got together, like, oh, we're going to meet, you know, and so-and-so, and we're just going to start fucking shit up.
	Well, here's the, well, for one, yeah, they already are doing that.
	I mean, the thing is that the globalists only care about control.
	It's all about control.
	They don't care about money.
	They have all the money.
	They print the money.
	They don't need money.
	They don't care about your religion.
	They don't care about your race.
	They don't care about your anything, your sex, your gender, your orientation.
	They don't actually care, except in that it is a variable in the equation of your enslavement.
	So if they can control you through your religion, then it's a positive.
	They want it, it's good.
	So, you know, Islam is as much a political structure as it is a religious structure.
	So the political influence that they can wield by control of a very small number of people at the top of this religious hierarchy, they can control millions and millions of people.
	And I'm not just saying this, there's a really great documentary that came out after the Arab Spring, and it showed two Egyptian activists in Tahir Square, and one of them was Sunni and one of them was Shiite, and they were both dedicated, both just like, gung-ho, we're going to smash this regime, no holding back, we'll sacrifice our lives for this.
	And then one day, the Sunni guy got a message from the Imam, got a message from the mosque, and he was just, he just flipped sides immediately, right?
	And the other guy is like, what happened?
	Yesterday you were with me.
	Today you're telling me you're not on our side?
	What happened?
	And the guy, like, he couldn't even express it, but he had to almost just like, you know what happened, dude.
	You know I got the message from the Imam.
	And if I don't do what he says, I'm kicked out of my mosque, which means my family can't talk to me.
	I mean, like any religion controls people.
	So the Muslims that are flooding Europe are preferable to the globalists for the sheer reason that they are Muslims and that each Imam in Islam is like a pope unto himself and has very, very strong control over his congregation who are required to go listen to him speak, who are required to treat his words as 100% valid and very strong social pressure to keep people in line for that.
	And I think the thing that people need to understand about the migration system is that if it was up to the globalist, it would never end.
	I don't know if people think that eventually the global south is just not going to have any people because they all moved into Europe and America.
	It'll never end.
	You see the caravans with tens of thousands of people crossing, millions of people a year.
	That could go on indefinitely forever.
	It never has to end.
	The supply is endless.
	The birth rates are high.
	And so, again, it's all about control.
	It's all about eliminating the things that make you strong and uncontrollable.
	So their ultimate system, their ultimate setup is a constantly regenerating population.
	And you can see, again, there was a story this week where it was like, by the third generation, migrants no longer outbreed Americans or whatever.
	They probably didn't phrase it like that.
	But the point is that by the second or third generation of American, you know, that you're in America, you lose all of the cultural impetus that your parents came over with, which may include religion, getting married, being productive, like having children very early age.
	Like they might do that the first generation.
	Second generation does a little bit less.
	By the third generation, they're basically Americanized, which means liberalized, which means valuing money and education over having children.
	It means you delay it that much longer, which means you're not going to have as many children.
	So the system that they have set up is an endless flow, an endless importation of people from the third world, keep the third world birth rates super high by using the large S and the excess of the first world, offshore it to the third world, keep their birth rate super high, bring in their excess population to the first world, liberalize them, Americanize them, westernize them.
	Within a generation or two or three, they die out because they aren't even reproducing or they're gay or trans and they're gone.
	So another influx.
	And again, the reason they want this is because what represents an existential threat to the globalist?
	It's a group of people getting together and pushing their own well-being over the globalist.
	So if you can have a society that is totally fragmented, where nobody has been there for more than a couple generations, there's no long family line, there's no roots laid down in this small town where you know everybody, there's no cultural zeitgeist that your group is driving or your religion is driving, constantly fragmented.
	As soon as you're sort of getting your feet planted here in America, within a generation or two, you're fading out, you're going away, you're folded into the monoculture, globo, homo, plastic society, and you're not a threat to anybody because you have no, there's no large group of people that all share a similar ideology.
	There's no cultural impetus that gives you a firm foothold to operate from.
	So that's what they want, man.
	They want this constant influx.
	And of course, you know, by the time you're the third or fourth generation, you've gotten used to the high living standards and you're demanding higher wages.
	And it's time to bring in the with all this going on and the amount of people, I don't think we've ever had this many people coming into certain countries, ever different countries on this rate ever.
	So, do you think they can keep up that concept with the amount of people that are coming in?
	Do you think that it's going to end up biting them in the ass?
	Or do you think that it's just the system that's just so well greased that it will never fail?
	Well, we're in a mode of South Africanization, right?
	So we're in a period of decline that is not rapid and is not temporary, right?
	So just like South Africa.
	That shit's crazy.
	It's insane.
	Bro, it's literally insane.
	And it's been going on for 40 plus years, right?
	Like apartheid ended in the 80s, I think.
	And so for 40 years, it's been a slow but sure degradation.
	And soon they won't be able to keep the lights on.
	And soon they won't have clean water.
	And soon they won't.
	But there's never a collapse.
	There's never a big explosion where suddenly, you know, all the dudes who play Call of Duty all day are suddenly like, great, I get to put my skills to work.
	Let's go.
	Like, that's not going to happen, man.
	No, it's just going to be a slow degradation forever.
	If we don't reverse it, we can always reverse it.
	We can always expel everybody.
	We can always deport everybody.
	That's never even impossible at all.
	I mean, the thing is, you have to understand how powerful America is.
	The image that always comes to my mind is when a hurricane is going to hit Florida and all of the electric line companies stage their trucks in like Georgia, ready to go into Florida.
	And it's just as far as the eye can see, it's these, you know, every one of those trucks costs over $100,000 because of all the equipment they have on it.
	Every one of them is manned by at least one super highly skilled engineer, basically.
	So it's like, you know, when you just think about the amount of skill and expertise and manpower and money and resources that America has, to be like, we can't deport illegal immigrants, it's like, have you seen what we did for the illegal immigrant?
	We've built entire cities for the illegal immigrants.
	And I think that's what's going to bite them in the ass because especially these, you know, let's say there's generations coming over right now.
	You know, some, there's two for sure, sometimes three.
	But a lot of these people are going to get here and they're getting thrown on their ass.
	Like they might, they might get $2,000 every leg.
	They get to America.
	They might give them another $2,000 of cell phone.
	But right now, they're not taking care of them like they said they would.
	So if they don't want to be a slave laborer, I just got this video where this guy, he's talking to Reno Arce.
	This was in December.
	And he's like, hey, what's up, man?
	What are you doing?
	Where are you from?
	And this thing goes, he's from, I forgot where he was from, but because he's been here for 15 days and he cannot afford a bus ticket or plane ticket to go anywhere.
	He doesn't have any ID.
	He doesn't have anything.
	He can't get a job.
	So the only things that they're offering him, of course, are the NGOs.
	And they're offering him slave labor jobs at basically not even half the price that American people are working for him.
	He's like, I'm not doing that.
	I'm not going to go and be a slave.
	So literally inviting people in and then just like being like, you can rob, cheat, and steal or work as a slave.
	Yes.
	Those are the options that they have.
	And see, that's, I mean, you know, where's the fatal flaw in that system?
	I don't see one.
	They have court dates.
	He has a court date in Utah.
	He's in San Antonio.
	He has a court date in Utah.
	And at that point, he was like, yeah, it's in 10 days.
	So it's like, he has no way to get there.
	He has no money, no job, nothing.
	So it's like, okay, you think about that ideology from our government.
	They know that's going to happen.
	Right.
	They know he's not going to make that court date.
	Yeah, so they expect they.
	So it doesn't matter.
	What's the point of even assigning them court dates if they know they're not going to be there?
	They're not going to get there.
	It's checking boxes.
	Exactly.
	It's just a fucking process.
	So people can be like, oh, we're trying.
	Oh, this is what we're doing.
	They're not doing that.
	Oh, he missed a court date.
	Better push it to the next.
	I mean, it's just, you know, it's a series of bureaucratic maneuvers.
	But yeah, man, I mean, you know, so what?
	They become criminals, then they get arrested, then they go into the for-profit prison system and actually do work as slaves.
	Like, there's no, there's no fatal flaw.
	There's just continual collapse.
	There is endless suppression and constriction of American wealth as it's looted wholesale and given to our enemies.
	And of course, you know, we know the full scope of the CBDCs and all this stuff.
	And I think that, you know, if you want to talk about what we need to do, it's bring more people in to our side of understanding that things don't just happen, right?
	The normie view is just like everything is inexplicable, right?
	Like, oh, there's a drag queen in elementary school.
	Better not ask questions about that.
	Better just change my own morality to fit whatever this new abomination is, right?
	So it's just like, in their mind, things just happen.
	Being on our side is to recognize that things don't just happen, that things are put into motion by people for particular agendas that are unspoken in the public, that are not acknowledged in mainstream media, but are very much the driving forces behind these otherwise inexplicable decisions made by people on all levels.
	Officials who we hadn't even heard of until the last fucking five years.
	Because I'll be honest, I didn't hear about Klaus Robb even when I started working here.
	We weren't talking about Klaus.
	Yeah, we talked about the World Economic Forum, but he hadn't emerged.
	Exactly.
	There was no fucking guy in a Darth Vader outfit getting a fucking award like he's a fucking intergalactic fucking war hero.
	And that might be where they've overstretched, right?
	That might be where they got a little too excited.
	They thought, okay, now everybody knows that we're here.
	It's a coming out party.
	We're going to make this look like, you think about it, they make that shit look presentable.
	Well, yeah, they know how they talk, yeah.
	No, they have this panel.
	It looks fucking nice.
	Everybody in the audience is like, oh my God, look at these people.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's like, you know, they have set it up to look like this is how it's supposed to be.
	Right.
	And I mean, it has jalure.
	Which is why you have to break that down and expose and show people what little tactics they're using to give the sheen of legitimacy to the people that are up there.
	I grew up with video games.
	I loved it.
	But that was because it was more...
	Right.
	That was it.
	I was outside.
	I could not touch anything.
	TV.
	Homework, outside.
	Dinner, then do what you want.
	What I don't like and what people don't ever ask about is the fact that none of this stuff has to be connected to the internet.
	None of it has to be feeding our information to the mainframe.
	It's not necessary that you could have, like, I don't know why we don't have like droids already.
	Like, we have all the technology.
	We've had it for a decade.
	The technology to like have a little R2D2 running around.
	Why not?
	Yeah, one of my biggest things is I love cars to death.
	Like, I race cars, I have a collection, but why are we still driving cars as our main transportation?
	Dude, those little wheel things, those little, like the one wheel, those are so gross.
	I love those, dude.
	Yeah, like, why don't we have that with like a jetpack on the bottom by now to where, you know, why aren't we all having Iron Man suits where we can just fucking go?
	Dude, some people, I just, and that's the thing.
	There is stuff like that, right?
	Now you can see the guys, like, they fly under the yacht with the jetpack.
	It's like, so, like, I love technology.
	I love living in the future.
	I love seeing stuff where I'm just like, oh yeah, I'm in the future right now.
	Especially there was a dude in Phoenix last time I was there, and he was riding around on one of those little one-wheel things, and he just had like neon lights all over it.
	So it was just like blaring out light, and he was like blasting techno music, and he had like light-up sunglasses, and he would just, you would hear him coming.
	You would hear just like he comes zooming down the corner, just like, you know, and just like disappear.
	And like, we were with a bunch of people, and it was probably like, who is that guy?
	I was just like, that guy was awesome.
	That dude was like, I want to be that guy.
	That guy was living the best life out of any of us here.
	Probably a fucking time traveler.
	He's looking like a time traveler.
	He's just fully embracing the future.
	God bless him.
	So I love technology.
	We just don't need for it to, we don't need to be renting our phones.
	We don't need our fucking toaster to be reporting our calorie intake back to Amazon.
	Like none of that's necessary.
	It only slows everything down.
	You don't need a fucking refrigerator that can look inside your refrigerator when you're not there.
	Like, oh, what am I going to order today?
	Right, right.
	Oh, I don't have this.
	Like, are you really that fucking lazy you couldn't make a list?
	You don't know what you're out of at home to where you just go, oh, I'm just going to look in my refrigerator from here.
	You know, I don't even care.
	I don't even care about that even.
	Like, I just don't get why.
	I get why.
	I mean, it's data collection.
	It's, it's the Internet of Things surveillance grid.
	I mean, we know, but there's no reason why it has to communicate with anybody else.
	I would love to have, you know, a little droid, a little whatever, but it's like, you know, I don't have things.
	So I'm like, I would love to have a video doorbell, but why does it have to send the footage to Amazon?
	Why can it not just save it on a little hard drive in my room and never closed loop system that I'm the only person that has?
	It's cool.
	You want to track all that stuff for human advancement?
	Cool, but like let me be the only person who looks at it.
	Yeah, well, and it's just not necessary.
	I legitimately think it's like a billion-dollar business if you can just go, hey, we do all the things that all these other guys do, you just never connect to the internet.
	You just maybe upgrade it once a year.
	It downloads all the information you need.
	There's no reason why your voice, I mean, you know, because there's all these stories where it's like Amazon, you know, people, you know, Amazon employees are listening in to conversations people are having on their Alexa.
	It's like, fucking why, dude?
	Why?
	There's no reason.
	You can have every encyclopedia ever written on a four gigabyte card.
	Just have that.
	Just have a little standalone device that never connects to the internet, but can hear your voice and respond.
	Why does it have to all be data gathering?
	Have you seen the, it's not even a meme, but it's just somebody posting like, why the fuck is my washer and dryer sending four gigabytes of information over my, like, because he was checking his like internet usage per device, and it was like, literally every day, it's using four gigabytes of information.
	What?
	What is it saying?
	What is it transmitting?
	Why?
	It's like same thing with the Roomba robots and stuff.
	Snapping your house.
	And it's kind of, it's like, okay, they already have the floor plan of your house.
	Right.
	Because, I mean, especially on Zillow.
	Zillow's like a love-hate thing with me because I can go on and I can see my...
	Yeah.
	It's like everybody knows what the inside of my house looks like.
	I fucking hate that.
	That's weird.
	So now they're going to have somebody's going to have a layout of your furniture at the same time.
	So it's like they're going to be able to know where you would be, where you could be.
	They would know how to maneuver in your house at night without anybody fucking knowing.
	There's no reason why it should go anywhere.
	There's no reason why it should transmit any information ever.
	So I really think of like if Elon Musk started a company where he went, yeah, you know, we're Roombas and Alexas and smart TVs.
	We're going to have all of these things, but none of them are connected to the internet, but they're all equally as functional as every other piece of equipment.
	I would buy that stuff so fast.
	And I don't have a Roomba for exactly that reason because I'm like, I don't want a little spy running around my ankles.
	Because, okay, they say, well, it's all it's doing is uploading your floor plan.
	Like, okay.
	Oh, is that all?
	Yeah, okay, then, how do I not know it doesn't have a microphone?
	How do I not know?
	The little red sensor is for the remote.
	It doesn't have a camera behind it.
	Yeah, of course, of course they do.
	I mean, it does.
	All these things have this, and it's like almost impossible to protect yourself.
	I went to, there's a bar brewery that I go to quite a bit.
	And I just dawned on me the other day.
	I walked up and I was like, there's no place for it to flush.
	Like, I don't flush it.
	Oh, that's hilarious.
	But there's also no sensors.
	There's also no sensors.
	So I'm like, how does this thing Know that I'm done, and like, how does it know to flush?
	I'm just like, yeah.
	But, all right, man, before we get out of here, I just have one more question for you.
	Okay.
	What is your favorite product from InfoWarsStore?com?
	I like X2.
	Let's see.
	But serious question, though.
	What is your favorite product from Infowars?
	My favorite product, the one I use the most and probably my favorite is Brain Force Ultra, the liquid.
	Yes, that one's fucking amazing.
	You can just do like four eyedroppers and just...
	Yeah, yeah, you don't really overdose.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, yeah, I'm like addicted to caffeine.
	I can never sleep at night.
	I'm always up super late.
	Always have to wake up early.
	So I rely on things like TurboForce, excuse me, and Brain Force Ultra, the liquid tincture.
	Bodies is another really good one that I take quite a bit.
	Yeah, I think those would have to be my favorite.
	X2, I've never been disciplined enough to take it for long enough for it to work.
	I've been told I kind of abuse X2 because I thought that you're supposed to take a dropper.
	You're right.
	You got to be careful.
	It's one drop.
	It's supposed to be one drop.
	So I think I stick to X3 most of the time.
	I like to put X2.
	So I make, I use vitamin Mineral Fusion every day.
	Turbo Force almost every day.
	Supermail, Winter Sun.
	Dude, I use a lot of it.
	Yeah, Winter Sun is the other one I use a lot.
	But I think my favorite tasting one is, it grew on me was Vaso Beat.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like that, Vaso Beat does.
	It's kind of like a liquid nitric boost.
	Interesting.
	Like, I always recommend it's a strong beet flavor, but it tastes really good.
	I don't think I've ever tried Vaso Beat.
	It's fucking thick.
	I like the taste of all of them, man.
	Oh, well, dude, I should say that's what Down and Out and Knockout are really the ones I sort of rely on because they do actually knock you the fuck out.
	But I try not to use them all the time because, yeah, I get used to it because it works really well.
	So you're just like, you know, I'll just take this every night.
	And it's like, I guess I better take two now.
	And it's like, okay, I better not take it.
	I've got a tolerance now.
	Let's take some.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, your tolerance can grow on some of that stuff.
	But no, my favorite products are definitely the shirts, the hats, the fucking, you got one to do it.
	Let's go.
	Milan, yeah.
	Yeah, yes.
	Yep.
	Yeah, dude.
	I've been wearing that, dude.
	It's a shame because we don't have some of the old shirts and sweatshirts and stuff.
	I've been wearing one of the old sweatshirts that we used to have.
	It's like the softest sweatshirt ever.
	It's like the warmest thing I ever had.
	I have two that haven't opened.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah, I bought them before they went out.
	I thought about just keeping them in here, wearing them in here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then I'm like, nah, it's pushing it.
	It's kind of nostalgic.
	Somebody might, you know, might like it a little too much.
	But look, stock up while you're.
	I'm going to tell you the secret.
	I'm working on something for the t-shirts.
	Oh, yeah.
	I am.
	I am.
	So the goal is to have just a plethora of t-shirts.
	Yeah.
	Just because we know how important just t-shirts are.
	Well, what I love about t-shirts is it's just like classic Americana, like the one you're wearing.
	Or like my favorite one I had that I actually bought before I worked here.
	It's the only thing I bought before I worked here.
	Although I can't even remember now.
	I either bought the 1776 shirt, right?
	Answer 1984, 1776.
	That might be my favorite shirt.
	Or it's the other one that I either bought right before or just a, but it's the one with George Washington with the AR-15.
	It's just such a cool shirt.
	Yeah, I see.
	It's just Americana.
	It's just badass.
	It's just, that's what InfoWars is all about, especially the 1776, because that I do get people going, what does your shirt mean?
	And I go, oh, let me tell you.
	Isn't it crazy?
	Like, how many people don't know what 1776 stands for?
	I haven't seen that.
	I've had people not know what 1984 was.
	That's weird.
	I even have it on my screensaver of the truck.
	Because we have a 1770 sticker magnet on the truck, on the armored tank.
	So I had that.
	And people ask me all the time, what does your screensaver mean?
	First of all, why are you looking at my phone?
	Yeah, right.
	But second of all, I'm glad you asked.
	1776 is a year a country was founded.
	That's weird.
	Everything America stands for the world.
	Yeah, and I'm just like, huh, okay.
	Like, wait, I'm weird now because you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about?
	They're like wearing a 76ers jersey.
	Right.
	Hey, we're brothers.
	You like Philadelphia or whatever?
	I don't know where the Sixers from.
	Who cares?
	Well, dude, thanks for coming on, man.
	This was a blast.
	This was fun.
	I can't believe it's been so long.
	I was just getting up my phone to be like, I better head home before 8. It's like, it is 9 o'clock.
	Time fucking flew.
	Yeah, time absolutely flew.
	Thanks for having me on, man.
	This has been really fun.
	Hopefully people find it interesting.
	Oh, I definitely will.
	Especially when we get these skits going.
	Hey, thanks for not asking me about the FBI, man.
	That was really nice.
	I would never do that.
	Till next time.
	I was going to say.
	The next episode.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The next episode we'll talk about me infiltrating the FBI undercover.
	Thanks, Steve.
	Bye.
	USA!
	Thank you.
	I want them shut down.
	I want them silent.
	I want them muted.

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