So I leave and come back 10 minutes later and it's like starting to smoke.
I was like, oh shit, yeah.
So it's like, you know, yeah, I know.
And so little things like that.
We're trying to work out the kinks.
But so far, so good.
And everything's so far.
Everything's been working out.
Yeah.
Well, as always, I'd like to thank you for joining me.
I always have a blast and I always learn so much listening to you, hanging out with y'all.
Your entire team is so knowledgeable about biblical history and just history of church and me not being that knowledgeable in it.
I love being a sponge for it.
And I've noticed that there's a lot of people that you're following that are like that.
So if you would like to explain, just Pastor Michael Petro and you're based out of Houston.
Would you like to explain, tell a little bit about yourself to our fans here?
Well, I grew up in the church, grew up in the religious systems, and I began to realize that there had to be more.
And I think a lot of Christians are out there right now saying the same thing.
There's got to be more than what we're seeing in the church today.
And especially when you read the Bible, if you put any time into the Bible, you begin to realize, well, how did these men walk in the power that they walked in know the information they knew?
Because they were way ahead of their time.
When you look into the early church fathers, they were talking about things that we can't even see without a microscope, which blew me away, right?
Obviously, back then, 2,000 years ago, there was no such thing as a microscope.
But a hunger grew in me just to know the more.
Lord, why?
Why is it this way?
Why is it that way?
You know, from a young age, I always knew that God was real.
I always knew that Jesus was my Savior, right?
And I was fortunate.
I grew up in a church, a woman by the name of Catherine Coleman, who had a healing ministry back in the 60s and 70s.
So if you can imagine a young boy, eight, nine, 10 years old, going to Sunday school, you know, every week and seeing kids that are blind or have a patch over their eye or they're deaf, they can't hear, or they have metal crutches.
And one week they're that way and the next week they're healed.
That was something that made a massive impression on me as a young child.
And so because of that, I just knew.
I mean, it's not like I grew up holy after that or anything else.
I did my world stuff.
I went to college, played sports, did all that.
But there was always this hunger in me to know that truth.
And so, you know, as I got older, I would get words from prophetic people all the time.
You know, you're called to be part of, you know, the end time move of God.
You're part of, you know, something much bigger that right now you don't realize what that is.
And so I just grew up in that type of culture, really knowing that I was called to do something, not really wanting to do it.
I grew up in a business family also, so it was all about business with them.
You know, a bunch of Italians.
And, you know, they got that Italian, you know, business, you know, model mentality, you know, strive, strive, strive.
My grandfather, my grandmother on both sides were immigrants.
They came to this country, you know, not even speaking English.
On my dad's side, they spoke Russian.
On my mother's side, you know, they spoke Italian and English.
So I learned, you know, a lot about hard work from both sides.
And I began to just really want to strive in that area of doing business.
But it didn't matter how hard I tried.
I kept being pulled out.
I kept being pulled, you know, into ministry.
And then finally, the Lord called me, and there was no running.
I mean, I was out of college and I was getting ready to do some really big things.
And the Lord said, well, you're not called to do this.
I have a call on your life.
And, you know, interesting, you know, the Lord told me he was going to send me to the nations, you know, and people would prophesy that over me.
You know, you're going to go to the nations.
You're going to bring the gospel, the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I used to think these people are crazy.
They're nuts.
They're just talking, right?
You know, being worldly, you know, that stuff is hard to imagine.
Yeah, it's hard to, for...
At this point, you're in your early 20s, correct?
Your late 20s.
Even then, I mean, it's hard to fathom people telling you that you're going to do such great things when that wasn't even in your plans.
Yeah, I mean, you're right, Rob.
I mean, it's like you're going to go to Europe and you're going to do this.
And I really just wanted to sit behind a desk and make tractor trailers or do whatever I was doing at the time.
So, you know, people don't understand.
It's like you think that maybe you're supposed to do one thing and God has a call on you to do something else.
And he'll get you where he wants you in his timing.
And he starts, and obviously my lifestyle, my life back then was, you know, it wasn't right with the Lord.
I was living worldly.
And I began to really understand that, you know, how can I do this?
How can I be called?
Look at my life, you know, and I was running around.
I was in the bars, you know, I was doing drugs.
I was, you know, doing all those things.
And when the Lord started to pull it out, pull me out, he started to pull that stuff out of me.
And that's where the big change came.
I mean, next thing I knew, I was traveling nations, just like the things that have been prophesied over me.
And I was like, how am I going to get here?
How am I going to get there?
Next thing I know, I'm there.
And I'm there.
And I'm watching people get healed and people get set free of things.
And I'm just shaking my head because, You know, how is this all happening?
Right.
I mean, I've seen people raised from the dead, right?
When you see somebody raised from the dead, you know, that just doesn't happen.
Yeah.
That, you know, not at all.
They're there, they're gone.
You know, I've also heard some incredible stories from people that had passed away, came back, and they tell you about what was like on the other side.
My aunt was one of those people.
I remember the story she told me during your, when I went to your last service about the guy who, oh, you know, I can stop drinking and smoking, you know, whenever I want.
I'm not addicted.
And then, you know, what happens is he basically gets cast to hell.
And, you know, it was crazy how vivid and what his description of what was going on was.
He's like, I mean, do you want to tell the story?
I mean, it was, I don't want to chop it up, but I mean, like, he said that he was at the gates and the angels were like, or he was with the angels and they wouldn't let him in.
So he said that there was an entity behind him when he turned around that they had, it was the two hands that had alcohol and one had cigarettes.
Yeah.
And they just pulled and those were his chains to hell.
Exactly.
It was like they had a chain from those cigarettes to him.
And when they would pull the cigarettes, he'd go sliding towards them.
And he said he was fighting with everything in him to stop.
And then they would show him the beer, right, and the alcohol.
And they'd pull that and he goes sliding across towards him.
And I've heard pastors actually say, well, you're not going to go to hell for having a beer and smoking cigarettes.
Well, this guy was on his way there.
Actually, it was an incredible miracle.
I mean, he was on an operating table.
He was dying of cancer.
And basically, he had died, I think, three or four times on the table.
And finally, the doctors just gave up on him.
And I was actually preaching in a meeting in Cannes, Australia at the time.
And somebody slipped me a note asked me to pray for him.
And so I prayed for him.
And the Lord spoke to me.
He said, you'll see him when he gets out, right?
Well, when I said that, he was already dead.
He had already been dead for like 15, 20 minutes.
So, you know, thank God he would have got pounded for that one.
But, well, the nurses were getting him ready, you know, to put him in a body bag and take him to the morgue.
And from my understanding, one of the last things they take off of you is that thing that gets your heartbeat.
Yeah, the pulse reader, right?
Yeah, it's on your finger.
And they were getting ready to take that off.
And all of a sudden, it started the heart machine started going off.
And they were looking at each other.
And so they realized he's not dead.
But they had cut him from his neck down to the top of his leg to take a look at this cancer and how they were going to deal with it.
And next year they were looking at each other.
Well, what do we do?
Then they got a nurse and the nurse called the doctors.
And the doctors came in and they said, you know, they were pretty much standing there watching, waiting for him to die again because he had already died like three or four times.
But he didn't die.
So they went back in.
And when they went back in to see what to do about the cancer, it was gone.
He was healed of the cancer also.
So that incredible miracle, eh?
Yeah.
So they basically stitch it back up.
Well, his wife had already driven back home.
And so there, you know, the nurses called her.
They said, you got to come down and, because they didn't want to shock her.
He said, you got to come down and sign some paperwork, right?
She goes, well, can I do it tomorrow?
And they were like, well, I think you better do it right now.
So they came back to the hospital, or she came back to the hospital.
And so I don't know how to explain this to you, but your husband's alive.
He's in recovery.
And she was like, what do you mean?
And the doctors explained, well, there was no cancer.
And just an incredible miracle.
We just actually, just not too long ago, about four or five weeks ago, a guy that had been in care, assistant living with one of the sisters from the church, he had had stroke several years ago, about seven years ago, and had been in bed for almost seven years.
And he passed.
We prayed for him.
And 24 hours later, he came back to life.
Wow.
Yeah.
And that's an amazing miracle.
But now he's up and walking and talking.
After seven years.
He's bedridden for seven years.
Wow.
Another credible miracle.
So, and you know, it's one of the things, I mean, obviously, this is Infowars and we talk about this stuff.
I believe we're on the verge of a massive move of God.
I really believe that.
And I believe what we're seeing right now, things I've never seen, I think it's happening because in this revival, I think the Lord is going to challenge us to wake us up, to say, hey, I'm really here.
I really can do these things.
Those things you read 2,000 years ago, and you asked me why those things aren't happening today.
Not only am I going to make those things happen, I'm going to make more happen.
Because even Jesus said that.
He said the latter house will be greater than the former house.
And I believe we're in a time for people that are hungry.
Because the Lord isn't going to move with just anybody.
It's people that want to know.
It's people that are hungry for truth.
I believe the Lord's going to answer them.
And I believe it's going to be in an incredible way.
I mean, I just heard a story recently about Gaza and what's going over there.
And Muslims, thousands of them, are having visitations from Jesus.
You know, it's all over when you look on the news and stuff that's going on there.
And it's like the Lord's saying, I'm real.
I'm real.
I'm here.
You know, and people are coming to Christ because of it.
So I think we're on the verge of the greatest move that the Bible talks about, the last move.
And it's not a move of the end of the world.
It's a move of the coming into the millennial kingdom.
We talked about that before.
So with the power of healing and with all the miracles that you have seen, where do you think that's manifested from?
Like, how do you think people?
So, I agree 100% that we're on the verge of something miraculous.
And I haven't really seen this many people coming together in a long time.
And I think the combination of that positive energy, along with the hunger, you talked about people really wanting things, I think that that is going to help a lot of people channel into higher consciousness of thinking and just a whole different reality of thinking that is going to help that process go by a lot smoother.
Do you think Like where I Do you think there's going to be more people who are going to be able to heal like this and do things?
Or how do you think more people can get to that level?
Well, I mean, when Jesus walked on the earth, all of a sudden people had healing ministries that never knew nothing about that.
They would say, you know, I command you to be healed in the name of Jesus, whom, you know, Peter spoke about.
So they were using second and third references and people were getting healed.
I mean, because they didn't even know, you know, it's the guy, you know, Peter talked about Jesus.
So, you know, Jesus is going to heal you.
And we get healed.
But I really feel like we're in the timing now of a move that the early church talks about where the glory of God would be released.
Right.
And actually, when you look at that word apocalypse, it literally means to go behind the veil into the Holy of Holies where the glory is.
And so I feel like we're going to see something that has more to do with the glory of God than anything else.
And, you know, when you tap into that, right?
When you look at this word for glory, it speaks about like an energy, a power that's that's greater, really, when you look at the words for it.
It's speaking of something greater than like an atomic explosion.
And it's something that when you're in it, you can't deny it.
Yeah.
It's like you just don't go to church and you sit there and you go, oh, you know, what else do I got to do today?
You know, there's a football game today or whatever.
It's like when you're in it, you feel God's presence.
You know it's real, right?
You begin to be washed in it.
You know, it's hard to explain.
Like over the last probably six months in our church, the intensity of our people, the intensity of the worship is evident.
Like I'm looking at stuff now and I'm like, you know, people are body surfing in church.
I mean, I never thought I would ever see that in church, but it's like they can't contain themselves.
Because I can feel it too.
It's like you got to do something.
You'll see people just start running.
And it's like our bodies were created for the presence of God.
That's why, you know, Paul says we're the temple of God.
And I understand that when that glory starts hitting us, our body goes into this process of trying to figure out what's going on.
You know, it's probably like drinking 10 Red Bulls or something.
You know, it's just that energy that hits you, but it really, it's all talked about in the Bible.
It's really the same energy when you research it scripturally.
It's the same energy that created the universe.
So you were talking about consciousness.
Well, the Bible calls it the mind of Christ, right?
And the Bible calls us the temple of God, meaning every temple that was built in the Old Testament, whether it was the tabernacle of Moses, the temple of Solomon, they were only pictures of you and me, Paul says.
Paul says, don't you know that you are the temple of the Holy Spirit?
And so the early church had an understanding that our mind was the Holy of Holies.
Well, the Holy of Holies is where God dwelled.
That was behind the veil.
So once we get, and Paul also talks in the book of Hebrew how the veil is the flesh.
So once we get our flesh out of the way, once we start dealing with our worldly desires, right, and say, hey, I was created in the image of God according to the book of Genesis.
And we get back to that understanding and say, well, I want to go back to the original way I was created.
The Holy Spirit will start working on you in order to bring you back to that relationship.
Because really, that's what the Lord wants.
He doesn't, you know, we have bad examples today.
We have a lot of religious systems.
Yeah, and I think that really goes into the division of the human race.
Yeah, I think that's the leading cause of division.
They are businesses.
They're church that are just businesses.
Absolutely.
And Jesus called them hirelings, meaning you're just here for the money.
So when your offering is more important to you than your conviction, something's wrong.
Because the conviction should always be first.
This is my conviction.
And I don't care if a billion dollars is coming in the offering.
I am not going to stand outside of my conviction just to make people happy or make them feel comfortable.
And, you know, that's the way the Lord was.
He said what had to be said if he liked it or not.
You know, I tell people all the time, who was the worst evangelist in biblical history?
Who lost the most people?
It was Jesus.
He preached to 5,000, they all left because they didn't understand what he was saying.
Preached to another 3,000, they all left.
And he didn't chase after them.
He was looking for a people that thought like he thought, had his mind, the mind of Christ.
And matter of fact, after they walked away, he looked at the 12, the apostles, and said, what do you think?
And they said, well, Lord, only you have the words of life, so we're sticking with you.
He said, good.
Because if you don't believe what I'm telling you, you can go with them.
I mean, that's a man of conviction.
I mean, you have two megachurches and you lose both of them.
He lost 8,000 people now, and he didn't care.
Yeah, and he just, without a blink in an eye, then we get into the upper room.
And, you know, originally there was probably close to 500 people in the upper room.
And they kept leaving over a 40-day period.
And they get down, you know, to 120.
Again, what's the Lord doing?
He's cutting.
He's pruning the Bible.
He's serious and in the vet.
He's looking for those that are really serious.
And it was the same way in the early church, that was their way of thinking.
The apostles were the same way.
It was about, hey, this isn't a game.
We're really serious about change and transformation, you know.
And I think we have to get back to that in the church because, you know, we have people in the churches that shouldn't be there.
Absolutely.
Right.
There's a lot of.
And I think these programs you guys do tells us that.
And there was a group of people in my church I said, you know, of a certain political type that said, you got to go.
And they were like, what do you mean?
I said, well, if you don't have my mind, if you don't think the way I think, then there's a division amongst us.
And according to the scripture, when they went to the upper room, the Bible says they all had the same mind.
So why am I going to bring people in my church that believe in abortion, that believe in all these things that are not in the Bible, that are a sin, and just let them sit there and say, and not challenge them to change?
So, you know, we got to get back to that.
And I think a lot of people, that's why they don't go to church anymore, because they see this hypocrisy.
They see this lukewarmness and people that won't stand up for the truth.
You know, it's crazy, too, when you stand up, man, you get attacked like crazy.
Yeah.
And that's what you were saying, how living off your conviction gets you so much further in life at the end of the day.
And right now, you can tell how 90% of the world doesn't really do that.
And the people who do really stand out.
And at the same time, they are a huge magnet for people who think like them.
Whoa, what's going on here, guys?
I just got what you are.
What's up, bro?
Just take a seat, child.
All right.
Sure.
Well, everyone here really cares about you.
Do you know what an intervention is?
Intervention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're all worried that...
We've all noticed signs of radicalization.
You can actually read about them here in these articles from NPR and PBS.
Wait a minute, what is this?
I've never seen this before.
Frankly, we're worried about you, and we want to get you the help that you need, even if you don't know that you need it.
Okay, so we've all prepared some statements.
They're called personal impact statements.
If you could just let us read them and, you know, maybe afterwards clarify some things if you want to start.
Yeah.
John, I've been worried about your descent into white supremacist ideology ever since you got a squat rack last month and bragged that you were now a part of the, quote, home gym master race.
One week later, I witnessed you chug an entire pitcher of raw eggs in one sitting.
God.
It's called slonking.
Your beard was soaked in the raw egg juice.
I mean, it's a little messy.
Disgusting.
When I asked, you said raw eggs are anabolic.
I couldn't find anabolic on the ADL hate slogan database, but I'm sure it means something awful.
It's just about muscle growth.
As your friends, please help us understand.
We can't stand idly by as you destroy yourself with racism, bigotry, and probably salmonella.
No, I haven't gotten sick once, actually.
It's perfectly fine.
John, used to be so much fun.
We would go out, get blasted on alcohol, party all night, eat a bunch of fast food.
Like, who even are you anymore?
I mean, I've made some health decisions.
I cut out alcohol.
I don't consume seed oils anymore.
Listen, sweetie, you are a cult member, okay?
You believe everything Trump says and you want to build a big wall on the border.
Look, man, I'm just against illegal immigration.
It's common sense policy.
Your lifestyle is committing genocide, okay, to my people.
By the way, I don't know even if you're on threads yet, but I saw you reposted DeSantis.
He wants to ban all the gay and trans books for kids.
No, no, no, no.
They're just grooming kids sexually, man.
It's not grooming.
It's liberal.
Hello.
Yeah, look, have you even looked into these books?
Yeah, I did my own research.
Well, there you go, man.
Check the articles.
Doing your own research, a classic sign you're descending into right-wing madness.
John, do you even have a Ukraine flag in your bio?
Well, actually, I got rid of all my social media last week.
Are you boosted?
Boosted?
Like, like a booster stuff?
No, your vaccine boosters.
Oh, no, I didn't get vaccinated.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Are you serious?
Wow.
We should have brought our masks.
Guys, it's fine.
It's fine.
I got my ibermectin right here.
Oh, what is that?
There's a horse on the box, John.
You don't get your vaccines.
You don't wear a mask, not even off the side of your ear, so you can prove to people you trust the science.
So masks don't do anything, man.
Dude, no, no.
Last week, I went to go reparate some toilet paper, and you had two rolls.
You weren't even stocked up.
Wait, dude, I'm not.
Can I explain?
Excuse me.
A black voice is speaking right now.
Thank you.
Continue.
You talk about the China virus and it coming out of like EcoScience Lab.
Like, dude, you sound crazy.
But it did come out of a lab in Wuhan, China.
Do you even stand for the black national anthem?
The black national anthem.
Thank you guys.
I don't even know what this is.
You come in here wearing that American flag right in our face.
Like, don't you understand that that is capitalist patriarchy?
This was a gift from my grandfather.
He was a veteran.
Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?
It feels like just the other day we were planning my next abortion, and now you come in here talking about starting a family.
But I mean, I just think I might want to have kids someday.
White kids, John?
White kids?
You're going to national parks for hours, days at a time.
Yeah, I mean, I asked you to come.
Camping?
A black guy in the woods?
Dude, I saw the noose in your bag.
That was fishing wire.
You were going to lynch me.
Guys, that was fishing wire.
A noose.
Come on.
Frankly, John, there's no point in denying this because we found these in your room.
Lord of the Rings DVD?
Yeah, extended edition Lord of the Rings DVDs.
Can you guys please stop saying the name of that movie title in front of me?
That's a popular movie.
Yeah, no black people.
I didn't want to violate your privacy, but sometimes when you care about somebody, you gotta do extreme things.
I looked in your gym bag, and I found a couple things, John.
George Orwell, 1984.
Ron Paul, John, what is this?
Great Awakening by Alex Jones?
Where'd you get this?
InfowarsStore.com?
What are you talking about?
Why are you going through my gym bag?
John, we can help you.
Look, John, we know you've been reading the Bible.
You finished it, or whatever.
Congratulations, that's great.
But actually, I finished it.
My question is, why do you have this, huh?
What's this about?
It's a hunting knife.
For hunting what?
Black people?
What?
Oh, whatever it is, it's irresponsible.
Ain't anybody here could pick this up.
Oh, okay?
Can't just have things like this lying around.
I even heard you went to a shooting range.
Like, for what?
You know I'm a Second Amendment activist.
I mean, I used to go hunting with my dad when I was a kid.
Guns?
You're scaring us up!
So it's you who's been groomed?
No.
What?
Please, please.
Why do you need an AR-15 that shoots 15 magazines a second?
Last I checked.
Is it not a weapon?
What are you using lasers on your guns, John?
You feel like they're good for killing children?
Alright, alright, alright.
Look, we're mad.
I know that.
We have good reason.
But let's just give John a chance to respond, okay?
Guys, I'm a little confused.
I mean, I think I'm actually bettering myself as a person.
Alright, we're clearly not getting through to him.
And frankly, I say we go to plan B. Hoods up, everybody.
We're doing the ritual.
Let's do this!
Dang it.
We're lost in some raisins now.
You guys want to do some fitness?
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And it's so kind of really rare right now in our society that that really has led to false prophets being able to dwell very, very far into these people's brains and just have them basically as slaves into their program.
Well, I mean, if you look, the word prophet speaks to somebody as a teacher.
We have false prophets that are worldly people.
And I know you would agree with me if I said there's a very small number of people right now controlling the masses.
Absolutely.
There's no doubt.
There's no doubt.
100 controlling 8 billion.
Yeah, you have a very small number.
But what are those people?
They're prophets with a message of conviction.
And because for whatever reason, they believe in that message, which to me, I believe it's evil.
Absolutely.
I believe something else is controlling them, right?
But whatever that conviction is, they're sold on it.
Yes.
And we need to be sold on our message.
Absolutely.
And I think that's how the left really is right now.
That's how they are able to sell so many things to their people.
And the right just not at the same, I mean, at the same time, to me, they're two sides of the same coin.
But you can tell the left either they're really, they make people think that they believe in what they're saying.
I don't really believe they believe what they're saying.
I think they know what they're doing and they know how to get things done.
Yeah.
Well, they're pressing into what their agenda is.
But to me, I look at their agenda.
It's very confusing.
A lot of confusion.
And I know, you know, talking, watching you guys, it's like there's a lot of confusion here.
But if you go to the book of Revelation, there's an angel that's released midway through who's called Abaddon or Apollyon.
Literally, his name means confusion.
And I said it years ago.
I said, this demon is being released who is a messenger.
A word angel means a messenger.
He's a messenger.
He's a prophet of confusion.
So what we're seeing in the world today is because this demonic force is bringing this confusion into the earth to find out who's who.
He's separating those that...
Your mind can be swayed either way because you haven't made a choice or an opinion.
So when this angel confusion comes in, it will take you into confusion.
But if your mind is steadfast, if you're understanding, you know what you believe, he won't touch you.
He won't be able to bring you into that confusion.
He won't be able to bring you into a confused church.
I mean, the book of Revelation is not really about the world.
It's about the church.
When you look at mystery Babylon, the mother of harlots, that's the church.
And the word Babylon means a mixture or confusion in the anointing.
So, you know, there are those that are Christians or anointed one, and there's those that are confused about who they are, right?
So, you know, we're watching this work all together at the same time.
And I really believe we're coming to the end of That confusion.
I really believe that the Lord is getting ready to bring this harvest in for this next season.
But it's overflowing.
It's overflowing into the world.
It's overflowing to everything we look at.
And I look at some things and I'm going, how can people let this go?
Like two years ago, a year ago, that would somebody go to jail for this.
Some guy got up and started dancing in front of a bunch of little kids half naked, you'd throw them in jail.
Absolutely.
Now today, I mean, they're celebrated.
And why?
People that are boys.
And I don't know what that is.
People whose gender might be a little bit of both, or might even be neither.
Some public schools and libraries invite drag queens.
Some dress like horn demons to read to young children.
Parents' rights are benefit, and children's rights are put ahead.
So the child has the right to be protected from the parents when the parents behave badly.
What?
Yeah, that child molester gets messed with the wrong preschooler.
What makes you think he's a child molester?
Oh, he's a child molester, believe me.
Every child molester I've ever met looks just like that.
And make gay little babies for the whole human race.
Make a world we can live in where the one who you love's not an issue.
Will convert your children.
What?
Happens bit by bit quite.
Quietly and subtly, and you will barely notice it.
You can keep them from disco.
Warn about San Francisco.
Make him wear painted pants.
We don't care.
It's that few.
It's that few that got smart and said, hey, this is the way we're going to do it.
Right.
Well, you know, but the masses are starting, I think, to come to a point and say enough is enough.
Yeah, and I think that their tactics of what they've been using is just slowly going to bite them, you know, come back to bite them.
Because, for instance, the border situation.
I don't, they're kind of overplaying their hand there.
I don't really, I have a bigger hope in humanity that all these people who are actually fleeing or leaving their country, whether it's for asylum or for a better life, whatever it actually is, I don't think that they're going to continue on the path that the Democrats think they're going to continue on.
So I don't think that once they get over here and they're like, oh, this is really how it is.
And it's slowly starting to get that way because they're starting to leave them.
As soon as they get them on the other side of the border, they're just starting to leave them.
They're not helping them anymore like they were before.
Cuba.
Yep.
When the Cubans came across, right, and they let them out of the prisons and everything else.
Yep.
They're hardcore.
And they try to put them in a whole other camp.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like I left one camp to go to another camp.
Yeah, exactly.
I left socialism.
I left communism down there.
I'm not coming up here to go back into it, right?
So I think it's a Trojan horse.
I agree with you.
I mean, I'm like, and actually, biblically, it does say that, that their own confusion will consume them.
So it is even biblical.
Yeah.
And I am one of the few that still, you know, has faith that all this, or I just, actually, it's not even that I have faith.
I know everything's going to turn out okay for us.
Like I, down to the points of how we're created, we're way too complex to be fighting over such stupid things.
Like we are a work of God.
We're literally walking artwork all the way to our neural system, to our blood, our veins, everything.
And I think that as soon as people start waking up and everybody kind of has a little more empathy for each other, I think that's going to be just going to lead to a mass awakening that's going to, like you said, it's going to explode all over the world.
Well, I do think people are already awake, starting to wake up, but I think we have to deal with the church has to deal with these, you know, these demons are not weak.
These princes are not.
They're called princes for a reason, right?
And one of the craziest things that I see in the Bible, that I've known for years, actually, when Jesus is talking about the end of the age, he says something, he said, as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be at the coming of the Son of Man, right?
So he's talking about his second coming, and when he talks about it, he refers it back to the days of Noah.
Well, anybody that's a biblical scholar, even rabbis, will tell you that what was happening in the days of Noah, these fallen angels called Nephilim were roaming the earth, and what were they doing?
They were taking the daughters of the earth.
The Bible says to wives unto themselves, meaning they were having kids, they were having children that were basically hybrids with half demonic, right, and half human.
And, well, you know, if we think about Jesus, what was Jesus?
Half God, half man.
Exactly.
Right.
And we can read about these beings in other religions, other books.
That's a whole other, that's, yeah.
I'm glad you're going down this thing because I've opened up.
Yeah, I've opened a whole new, I went down another rabbit hole.
And I'm glad that you have, it's literally started.
This is the beginning of what I was getting into.
So yeah, we can definitely get into that because there is books and tablets that predate the Bible that go 8,000 years, 30,000 years, 36,000 years that really reveal a lot of things that people aren't even taking the time to even consider.
Well, I mean, you know, we are, you know, when I read the early church, they give you so much knowledge about timing.
We talk about predating the Bible.
People talk about things that happen before the Bible was written, but the early church fathers said, we're not the first creation.
Exactly.
Meaning, this could go back millions of years.
You know, our God is a God of plant and harvest, plant and harvest.
And he could be doing that with the earth over and over and over.
And I don't think that's a theology that it's going to matter one way or the other.
It's going to get you in heaven or not, but it explains a whole lot about the age of our earth, number one.
Number two, like you said, there is all these other books that talk about the flood.
The Samaritan tablets talks about the Nephilim.
Egypt talks about the Nephilim.
They even said that their Pharaohs were gods.
I mean, they talk about them being Pharaoh.
Yeah, they call them gods with a lowercase G. They weren't gods that were almighty like the God because they weren't God.
They were just beings of a higher intelligence and who lived longer and were able to tap into the energy that all of us should be able to.
Well, most pictures of any Pharaoh you'll ever see, you'll see he's wearing a cross with a circle on the top.
In the Egyptian alphabet, that's the letter Anak, right?
And it is the word where the Bible talks about the Ananaki, the fallen angels who were the fathers of the Nephilim.
So these are, and Moses came out of Egypt.
So, you know, there's things that people need to start waking up to that I believe that are hitting us right in the face right now.
It leads you to this character called Thoth, right?
And the emerald tablets of Thoth are literally mind-changing and mind-blowing just because you understand when this was written and the terminology being used is far too accurate for now.
So I'm sure that Emerald Tablet.
Also known as the Smargdyne tablet or the tabula Smargdina.
Boy, I fucked that up.
It's a compact and Trismagistus.
Yeah.
A cryptic Hermetic text.
It was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemists as the foundation of their art.
Though attributed to the legendary Hellenistic figure Hermes Trismegus.
How do you say it, bro?
Trismegistus.
Trismagestis.
The text of the Emerald Tablet first appears in a number of early medieval Arabic sources, the oldest of which dates to the late 8th or early 9th century.
It was translated into Latin several times in the 12th and 13th centuries.
Numerous interpretations and commentaries followed.
So what does it say, though?
The Egyptian god Thoth.
Okay, it says, beginning in the 2nd century BC onwards, Greek texts attributed to Hermes, a syncretic combination of Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth appeared in Greco-Roman Egypt.
Those texts known as the Hermetica are heterogeneous collection of works that in the modern day era are commonly subdivided into two groups, the technical Hermetica compromising of astrological, medical, botanical, alchemical, and magical writings, and the religio-philosophical Hermetica comprising of mystical philosophical writings.
Holy shit.
Is this weed talk, Joseph?
No, this is so legit.
So legit, my man.
So this dude was probably an alien.
Dude, first of all, there are no probabilies.
That's the benefit once you hear it or read it, is the fact that it's given in first person and that's not possible.
The things that are being said are impossible.
Enough time has passed, though, that it's not like that.
But he literally says, hey, there's a spaceship on Earth and this is where it is.
Because if all you care about is information, right?
Like, that's what you start to see is when you get to everybody's civilization, Asian, Indian, African.
And you brought up another one was like the book of Enoch, who was kind of taken out of the Bible.
And that kind of explains that, you know, there's a big part of the Bible where Jesus is missing.
And that's basically the book of Enoch.
So where he went to Egypt to learn certain things.
So there's certain things Jesus quotes.
He told the Pharisees, you do not understand the scriptures.
He's quoting the book of Enoch.
Because what he's quoting is not in the Old Testament.
So, you know, those are things that I think are good for people to understand and read and talk about and get an understanding of it.
But in reality, we're in a time now that all this stuff is unfolding in front of us.
Because when the Lord talks about as it was in the days of Noah, well, what does that mean for us now?
Is there a resurgence of the Nephilim?
What's getting ready to happen?
We're definitely, I'm hearing stuff in newscasters that are famous.
Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson.
He was on a podcast.
There was two other guys.
There was four or five people on it.
And two of the guys were Christians.
I had to laugh because he was talking about our government.
And he said something that just, my mind just blew, right?
He said, I believe that our government is being run by fallen angels.
I mean, here's a man.
He said, I can't prove it.
He goes, but what's their end game?
It doesn't make sense other than destruction.
And he goes, and I see all this evil happening with no reason why, you know, and he's a very observant person.
He's a very educated man, you know.
Yeah, and that goes back to what you said earlier and how things have gotten this bad kind of so quickly.
it wasn't this way two years ago, like the inversion happened so quickly, and it was just from one day, it's like one day the next.
Like, everything was from that wasn't okay is okay now.
And that's, I mean, that's really my only explanation for it.
It has to be some type of forces that have the power to do it that quickly.
And I mean, that's, that's not well, well, to do anything in the past, you have to get the people to follow you.
So, what do you got to do?
You got to re-educate those people.
You know, when you look at governments being overtaken like the Russians and what Stalin did and Marxism and, you know, what was done by Pol Pot and all these people that were taken over, they literally had to be brainwashed to believe.
You know, people talk about communism, but I look at all the past.
It's all fallen.
It's all failed, right?
Yeah.
So what makes you think that this is going to turn out better than it has in the past?
Because a lot of people have lost their lives in these re-education processes, right?
They kill everybody.
We're going to brainwash you to believe what we believe.
So all of a sudden, we got something different going on.
Like you said, nobody's being brainwashed.
Really, nobody is falling into that.
There's another force that's here that's deceiving, right?
Very deceiving, that people are listening to for whatever reason.
It can be in your face.
Like just as just as in China, they have re-education camps.
They have the genocide of the Uyghurs.
Like it's going on.
You can literally go on a China site called YouTube and they'll tell you, oh yeah, this is going on for sure.
But we act like it's not going on.
It blows my mind.
Well, I mean, some of the Chinese that are raising up and they want out of that system, you can see in their passion, their conviction.
Again, it's funny you can get pushed so far that you say, I don't care if I die, my conviction is greater than the fear I feel, you know, to have to tolerate this, right?
And actually, when the Bible talks about sacrifices, and a lot of people don't think about this like it talks about three different sacrifices, a dove, a lamb, and an ox, right?
Well, the dove is for the poor.
The rams were for the middle class, and the ox is for the rich, right?
Well, if you think of the nature of a dove, it's afraid of everything, right?
It's terrified.
You even start walking towards it, it's going to fly away, right?
With the ram is the same.
Sheep are animals that converge together.
They follow each other everywhere.
One goes off the cliff, another 2,000 will go off the cliff with it, right?
So they're very, they feel comfortable in crowds, right?
But then you have the rich, you have the high priesthood, you have those that are the ox sacrifices.
Well, what's an ox?
He's in the middle of the field by himself.
He owns that field.
You are not going into his field.
You are not going to mess with him.
And he's saying, you come here.
I'm going to kill you, right?
This is my space.
And there's a reason that these, again, symbolisms, these parabolic understandings are being shown to us.
The Lord is saying, are you a lamb?
Are you a dove?
Are you an ox?
Because the oxes were symbolic of the apostles.
Paul calls himself an ox, right?
So he's saying, I'm an ox.
And he said, don't muzzle me while I tread out the grain.
Don't try to stop me from saying what I got to say.
Because that's my job to get it done.
And I think we need more oxes in the world today and less sheep.
Absolutely.
Because we got a lot of followers, but we need some oxes.
Some real strong figures that will come out and say, you know what, I respect what that person is saying, and I respect their conviction.
And I want to be part of that.
Yeah, I 1,000% agree that we need a lot more oxes.
And we need a lot of the oxes that are there to realize that they are oxes and not be scared of other oxes on the other side who are trying to make them sheep and make them doves.
And I think that that in itself, I mean, that's kind of goes in the line with people awakening and kind of realizing who they really are and how powerful they really are as a person, how powerful their mind is.
And, you know, a lot of people don't understand that, like we talked about having a God, God mind, basically.
Your brain is God.
Like you can manifest basically anything that you want.
And if you have to want to be that good of a person and to be able to kind of, if you want to save the world, that's your goal.
You have to not be afraid to save the world.
You have to actually manifest that and actually live those words and fill it to the point to where your body's surfing.
You have to understand, you know, what the power is you really have.
Yeah, you have to understand that.
Well, you know, when you go back into Genesis and you look at the Bible the way from Genesis on, the Bible says that Adam was originally created in the image of God, right?
And then he fell out of that image.
But what Adam was originally created in, which was the glory of God, it's not what we got right now.
Like, this is a fallen body.
People don't understand that this is not what God created.
This is the fall after the creation.
So we were originally something else, right?
And so now when we start talking about the resurrection, now when we start, whoa, what's this resurrection?
It's A different body, according to the apostles.
It's a different being that's more like Jesus.
You know, Paul says, we do not yet know what we shall be, but we know this.
When we see him, we shall be like him.
Talking about Jesus, right?
So Jesus is as a, he starts giving us a picture of the way we were originally, you know, created.
So now when you go through the temple and you're going into the, the high priest would go into the Holy of Holies, right?
And that's where he would meet with God.
That's where the glory of God was inside the Holy of Holies.
On the curtain of the Holy of Holies was two cherubim with flaming swords.
The only other place we see that in the Bible is in the book of Genesis.
In the book of Genesis, there were two angels put outside the Garden of Eden with flaming swords.
So when we have this apocalypse, this destruction of the veil, when the veil is destroyed, where are we going?
We're going back into the garden.
We're going back to the original creation, what we used to look like.
And see, that's the end of this whole journey.
It's like the Lord wants to bring us back to that, and he will.
The issue is timing.
And actually, we're in that time frame, right?
The early church also believed they had a theology called millennialism.
And they believed that every day of creation was symbolic of 1,000 years.
So every day was symbolic of 1,000 years of that the Lord would, you know, fulfill his plan.
So day one was also equal to 1,000 years deep.
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Because most people think, like I said earlier, they think that revelation is the end of the world when really it just means to remove the veil that we can see the glory of Jesus.
It is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the apocalypse, apo to destroy kalyptos the veil of Jesus Christ.
So when I read the early church, as we're talking about now, they were more excited to learn that language and understand what the Bible calls the mystery of scripture, right?
Mystery Babylon, the mother of all harlots.
Well, what is that mystery about Babylon?
Is it a mystery that we're not supposed to know, or is it a mystery that we should know?
Like the word mystery means the secret way in which God governs the righteous, right?
Meaning God wants us to understand those things.
So as God is unveiling that stuff to us, as he's unlocking it to us, wouldn't you feel better if you knew what was really going to happen?
Wouldn't you feel better instead of learning it's about the end of the world?
Or is it a new creation?
What was lost in the garden is being returned?
We're going through the veil.
We're going back through the cherubim with flaming swords.
This isn't really about me returning to what Adam originally lost.
That's not a message of fear.
That's a message of excitement for me.
That's a message of, man, this whole garbage we've had to deal with down here for the last 6,000 years, the Lord's going to bring it all back and restore what's been lost.
So that's the message I want to hear.
That's the message I want to understand.
And really, when you look at the book of Revelations, it's about the temple service.
And a lot of people don't know that.
It's about how the operation was in the temple.
And so when we begin to unlock it and we begin to see it, it becomes a book, more of encouragement and excitement.
And for some people, it's going to be bad.
Yeah.
It's called the Great and Terrible Day.
But if you understand what's happening and you want to participate in that, it's going to be a great day for you, right?
It's the people that, you know, I can see where the Lord is.
I've always felt like there's just evil people.
Absolutely.
Right.
And sometimes I wonder if those people that that DNA of those Nephilim have come down through the generation and generational lines and is in those people now.
I believe that 100% because I've recently found out, you know, inside of us, we have two sets of DNA.
We have your live DNA and you have dead DNA.
Wow.
So there's a point to where how, what is the dead DNA?
You know, what is that?
Why is that there?
And then you go into what your DNA strand really is and like how much information one strand of DNA can actually hold.
And it's an astronomical, I have to, I don't remember the number off the top of my head, but it's like basically each strand has like 200 million terabytes.
So if you look into, if you add that to the fact that we really don't know how long our species has been on this planet and your DNA is just getting passed down generation to generation, why can't that be a thing?
That has to be a thing.
There are people that are getting transplants, lung transplants, kidney, Liver transplants, and all of a sudden, this is fact, this is the scientific proof, that they start taking on the character of the donor, and they start having thoughts of the donor.
That wouldn't mean what you're saying right now.
There was information passed down from that donor's DNA in that liver or in the kidney or whatever to this new person that needed it.
And now they're thinking like that person, right?
And you're making one of my arguments.
It's like we use, they're saying we use about anywhere from 6% to 7% of our brain.
So we use 6% to 7. A guy like Hawkins, the physicist, he uses only about 2 more percent of his brain than we do.
So he's up at 8, maybe 9. He makes us, who are 1 or 2% behind him, look like idiots, right?
All because he has 2 more percent.
And I really started thinking about this, and I was like, what would happen if we use 20% of our brand or 30 or 50?
Could it be that when Adam was created, he had 100% so he could have this relationship with the Lord that we can't have right now because we're like little amoeba right now when Adam was up here, you know, being able to talk to the Lord.
But we don't know that because we've lost so much.
How did we live a thousand years?
Oh, that had nothing to do with the atmosphere and more oxygen.
Come on.
It was, we were created to be eternal beings.
Exactly.
And that's why a lot of the species of humans that they have found, they have bigger brains.
They have bigger jawlines, bigger skulls.
Like there was a time when human beings were living way longer than 60, 70 years, like living hundreds of years.
Like they've taken advantage of humans for so long that they've dwindled those down from 100% to 8%.
I mean, if you want to bring it just to modern reality examples, fluoride in the water, GMOs in your food, you know, just all this stuff that they're actively doing to counteract you living a great life.
Yeah.
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Well, if you think about it, you know, sin is not lying, cheating, stealing.
That's not sin, biblically.
Sin is ignorance of truth.
So as Adam and his descendants got stupider, right, their life started being shortened.
So there's an equation between stupidity and shortness of life, right?
Absolutely.
So again, well, if I'm not using all my brain, we even know that, you know, 100 years ago, that they had a greater vocabulary than we have right now.
So when I look at the kids today and they're abbreviating everything, and there's words that we used to use, right, that they don't even use no more.
So they're losing the language, right?
And our language is getting to a point where we wouldn't be able to talk to a person 100 years ago and have a conversation because we wouldn't know what they were saying.
Right.
I went to college.
There was things my professor said I didn't understand what he was saying, right?
Because I didn't have his vocabulary.
But if we just go back 100 years, that's a great deal of information because, you know, we have become stupider.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's crazy because the Bible is telling us that, too.
The five wise and the five foolish virgins, right?
What was the oil?
What was the difference?
Oil.
One bought oil, one didn't.
Well, the early church said the oil or the anointing had to do with wisdom.
And so, you know, there's one that bought wisdom and the one that didn't want to buy wisdom.
And so even today, you know, they just don't, you know, go into the high school and say, okay, you're going to be a doctor.
You're going to be a jet pilot.
Right.
And you're going to be a person that takes out the trash.
It doesn't work that way.
It's those that move on, those that are willing to pay the price in their education, they get those type of jobs.
And the smarter you are, the better job you're going to get.
The better job you're going to get.
The better life you're going to have.
And what's the difference?
What's the difference between that doctor and that janitor?
I'll tell you what the difference is.
They're parents.
Because usually doctors, their kids will become doctors.
And those janitors, their parents never strove to be anything.
So what was the difference?
Discipline.
Discipline.
And I believe you can take any person.
And if you can help them in that area of discipline, they can be anything they want to be.
Because our brains are all the same.
Nobody's stupider than anybody else.
It all boils down to that discipline.
And honestly, I think that's our big battle right now.
Because they're trying to take discipline away from us.
Absolutely.
Get under our program.
Get on welfare.
Do you know EBT?
The age of convenience is just withering us humans away.
Exactly.
But why?
Because of this glory that's coming.
I believe that's what's getting ready to hit us.
And even if you study the word glory, it speaks about an intelligence.
It speaks about this understanding, but it goes beyond mere you.
I mean, there's words in the Bible that there's love, like love for a family, the way a mother has for her child.
It's called phileo.
But then you have this agape love that talks about that that's the way God loves us.
And Jesus defines it.
He says the way a mother loves her child is hatred.
Right?
The way a mother phileos her kid is hatred compared to the way God agape's that child.
Is that amazing?
Yeah, yeah.
And when I think about that, I can't even think of that or imagine that because that other love is so great that what we call love is hatred in the sight of the love of God.
So God can't be against us.
He has to be for us.
He has to love us to the extent that, you know, he would do anything for us.
With that point, that reminds me of the last time I had you in studio.
I played a clip of a gentleman who said that hell doesn't exist.
Yeah.
So with the love of God having, you know, with the love that God has for us, how do you feel about that statement?
Well, I think if you YouTube hell, you'll see a lot of people that have been there and they don't want to go back.
I've actually met, I don't know why, I've met several of those people, like I mean, seven, eight of them.
And you know when somebody's been to hell, but when you meet that person, because they're radical.
They are radically determined to stay out of there.
And they don't care about their kids no more.
They don't care about their marriage no more.
They don't care about their job no more.
All that is irrelevant to them compared to staying out of hell.
Nothing else has importance anymore.
It's like, I'm going to stay out of hell no matter what the cost.
They're terrified of it.
And everyone I've met that has had that experience, it's like, I don't care about anything else.
I'm just staying out of hell because it's that bad a place.
Hell was, you know, honestly, I used to be of the type that was like, I'd hate to see anybody go to hell, right?
And I know that hell is for really wicked people, but I believe more now than ever before.
There's people that are so wicked that, you know, there's people that if somebody runs out in front of them and they hit them and they kill that person, you know, by accident, that they grieve the rest of their lives because they killed another human being.
Then there's other people that go to war and they kill somebody and they go through a lot of mental battles because they took another life.
Then you have another group of people that are like, they'll take your life in order to get whatever they want.
But it'll bother them and they'll think about it, but they can live with it.
But then you have another class.
Actually, you have two more classes.
One class, they will kill you and never think twice about it.
Yeah, and they'll even say it as your fault.
Yeah.
But then you have a fifth class.
These people will kill you and they want to see you suffer.
Yeah.
So all those are different levels of somebody's soul being destroyed.
There's people that actually get enjoyment out of watching other people suffer.
And those people are the wickedest of all people, right?
And they try to justify themselves.
They try to, and I've seen these people.
They come to church, but it's all about them.
Everything's about them.
And they don't care about who they hurt or what they do to others, right?
Those are the people that are the most dangerous.
What do you do with that last three in that group?
Where do you put them for eternity?
Because they're so messed up.
You give them a chance to do it again.
They're going to.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So I do see, I mean, as I started studying the early church, they start pointing that stuff out.
And in all honesty, you asked me that earlier.
What's the difference between the church then and now?
The church now does not look or teach anything that the early church taught.
Nothing.
It's not close.
And when I started seeing that, when the Lord started showing me that, that was the direction I went.
And I started seeing the miracles.
I started seeing the Lord change people's lives.
I've seen radical change really in people that the world was given up on.
You know, it's like there's some people that just make mistake after mistake after mistake.
But all of a sudden, when the Spirit of God comes into that person and they feel loved, it might be the first time in their life they ever felt love, they start radically changing and they fall in love with Jesus.
And that's what it's all about.
It's like, Jesus is not just a person in a book to me.
It's like I know him.
Like I know you.
I probably know him better than I know you.
And you're sitting right in front of me.
And it's all because of that time that we spend with him.
But the world thinks he's just a character in a book.
Yeah.
And that right there really resonates with me because there's a lot of things that I knew were wrong.
And there's a lot of things that I knew were right and how they should be done.
And growing up with so many questions and not any answers, that's the path that it led me down.
And following what I knew was inside of me and what was right.
And I mean, I remember it, Claire's Day, I was in middle school, and I would literally test my gut feelings.
And it's like, you have to understand what the messages you're receiving on a daily basis, on an hourly basis.
Like your thoughts just don't come from anywhere.
They don't come from nowhere.
So that is what a lot of people have to understand is once you realize what Jesus is and who you are personally and how you really should align and if you do align with him and how that transcends time.
Oh amen.
There's terms that I think at a higher level are being used.
The word says that we can know the Bible like milk for a baby or know the Bible like a baby.
We can know it as a son or we can know it as a father.
It's just three different levels of maturity, right?
But it's also three different levels of understanding.
Absolutely.
And it's like you said, the way one person reads the Bible as a child is different compared to the way a father sees that, right?
Yes.
They see it at a much higher level and a much different understanding.
So the same thing could have different meaning to it as far as the level of the way you see it, right?
So when it talks about light, obviously, it says Jesus is the light of the world.
That's just not a term that's explaining him or a verb.
It's really going back, like I was saying earlier, to the original light of creation, which is God, right?
That's how John says that Jesus is God, because he goes back.
He said he was there from the foundations of the world.
Well, how do we know that?
He was the light.
He was the original wisdom of God.
So when you study that light, when what that means to the early church, it's just not like we have lights on in this room.
It means he was supreme wisdom, supreme understanding.
He knew everything in the creation of the universe.
He helped form the universe.
Now, to you and me, I mean, and Hawkins, Hawkins can give us his idea and the Big Bang theory and this and that.
But there's something I know about light.
When you start traveling at the speed of light, what happens?
Time stops.
You become eternal.
So there's something about that type of wisdom that brings us back into eternity.
And we ain't going to get there with 5% of our brain.
No.
If God turns on that other 95%, what's going to happen?
We start thinking in eternity, right?
There's more neurons and more cells in you than there is planets in the universe.
You are fearfully and wonderfully made.
You're a universe in itself.
When the Bible calls you a new creation, it's talking about Genesis 1. It's just not talking about, well, I received Jesus as my Savior.
God is saying, I've made you a universe.
And the same way he created everything, you're just as vast, immense, powerful as that.
And we're being fed baby stories right now.
We're, you know, kindergarten stories about who we are.
Well, if you just have faith, well, you read the early churches, there's a whole lot more to faith than just that.
And we're really at a time that people are saying, who really am I?
People are wanting to know.
You know, I see it in the young people that they're like, there's something more to us, you know, something more.
You know what the most dangerous thing in the world is?
A liberal that receives Jesus.
And if you don't believe in a recreation, I've watched liberals receive Jesus and everything in their thinking changes overnight.
You can't do that through college.
You can't do that through seminars.
You can't do it.
Yeah, I have a story for you on that exact example.
So out here during, they were having BLM protests and they were going down to the police station and they were protesting.
I mean, it was just riots, basically, to the point where they had to put a fence around the Austin Police Department.
So we went down there one day and of course, I was, you know, the only dark feller on this side.
You know, there was other Hispanics, but I was the darkest there.
And of course, on the other side, it's just, there's two people, there's two kinds of people.
There's whites and blacks.
That's it.
And that's very, very weird and rare, especially in Texas.
So you could see how the lines were divided.
So we get out there and I see this other black guy and I'm just like, he's looking at me like, why are you over there?
And I'm like, hey, what's up, man?
He's just like, he was thrown off and I was genuinely nice to him.
And I was like, what's up, man?
And some other person was like, no, no, don't talk to him.
Don't talk to him.
And I was like, hey, bro, what's up, man?
And I was like, you want to smoke?
You want to hang out or do something?
I was like, what's up?
He was just like, oh, oh.
And he goes, then the other person comes up.
He don't talk to him.
I was like, bro, can you see this?
I was like, I'm trying to talk to you human to human.
I was like, let this to you in your language.
You have a white person telling a black person not to talk to another black person.
I was like, you see, you see that irony, right?
I was like, yeah, you want to, I have a joint, man.
You want to go smoke?
We can go smoke.
He was just like, shit, like, and I was like, are you really going to let, like, you want to talk about us, all the people over here, my friends being white devils?
They're encouraging me and you to come join us as this person who you say is on your side is dividing us.
He's like, oh, shit.
Like, I could see his wheels turning.
And then, like, he just slowly like turns and looks at this person.
And I see the eyes of that person like, oh, shit.
Like, what just happened?
And that guy just kind of like, he went to the back of the crowd.
And I kind of peeled off.
And I was arguing with some other person.
And he comes around after.
He's like, hey, man.
He's like, do you want to smoke?
I was like, no, I mean, I was just kidding.
I don't really have a joint.
But I was just trying to relate to you that we have more in common and can get along just fine without somebody that you think is on your side is really dividing us.
And just like that, he was just like, bro, thank you.
He's like, I didn't even dawn on me until you actually said it that there's a white person telling a black person not to talk to a black person.
He's like, I he's like, thank you.
And I was like, all right, man, I'm taking off, man, infowars.com.
And I left that way.
And he just, he didn't even stay for the rest of their ride.
He walked off and walked past everybody.
So you're 100% right on that.
As soon as they realize, you know, once they see the light, basically, it's a whole other person.
I've watched this happen many times.
And it's like one of the things that holds a lot of them in bondage is anger.
There's this anger, frustration.
And the quickest way to deal with that is the Holy Spirit, the blood of Jesus Christ.
The Holy Spirit comes at a person and it removes that poison, right?
Like I say it all the time.
I say, you know, nobody comes to Jesus because everything's going right.
Nobody.
Exactly.
It's always when everything is falling apart.
And usually you got to help them pick up the pieces and move on.
And that's got to be something you're called to do.
That can't be something you just want to do, right?
And there's a grace in it that the Lord gives us to help others that are going through really tough times.
And you know, it's crazy.
I'll be in a store.
I'll be at Starbucks, right?
And somebody will walk over and I'll start talking to them, right?
A waitress, somebody that's just at the store, some guy that's looking for a new coffee cup.
And just start talking to them.
The next thing I know, I didn't even realize it at first.
They're confessing to me what's going on in their life.
This is going on in my life.
I thought we were just talking about coffee cups, and now they want to tell me.
But see, when you carry the presence of God, when you carry the anointing of God, there's something about confession that gets that heaviness off of you, that gets that fear off of you, that gets that hurt off of you.
Just to be able to talk to somebody and let the Lord touch that person, right?
There used to be a guy called Smith Wigglesworth.
He lived back in the 1900s.
And if you ever read his life, it'll blow you away.
He was in England and everybody would take the train, right?
And he talks about going and getting on the train to go do a meeting.
And everybody in his caboose all of a sudden gets down on their knees and crawls over to him and begins to tell him, I don't know who you are, but I feel like I need to confess my sins to you, right?
How does that happen, right?
How do those events happen?
And there's events like that all down through history.
It just wasn't him.
But for a person to feel there's something about this man sitting over here that I need to repent to him for all my garbage in my life that tells you that man must have carried a heavy, heavy anointing in the Holy Spirit to say, you know, I need to change, right?
And God creates that.
The Lord puts that in it.
He creates those men's mithwiggles with.
Yeah, I've had two similar situations like that.
And one, actually both situations I can't shake.
Like I'll never forget that moment.
And one of them, I don't know if I might have told you this story before, but before I was here, before I was, I don't know, maybe 24, 25, and I was working at a furniture store.
And it was during that time when I realized, like, you know, when we were talking about earlier, we can manifest anything that you want.
So I knew that, what I wanted in life, and I was going out and getting it.
So I had a nice car.
I had just come back from college.
You know, I got a Pontiac car.
I just put some nice rims on it.
It was, you know, painted nicely.
I just, you know, put it together.
It was well put together.
It didn't cost me very much, but it was well put together.
So I parked in front of the store I was working at and it was right behind a jack in the box.
It wasn't in the best neighborhood, not in the worst, but there's, you know, people always walking by.
And this kid, you know, he's just 17 maybe, and he's sagging his pants.
He's got his do-rag on.
He's got a big shirt hanging off like with his other shirt under.
And he's walking by.
He just stops.
He looks at my car.
And like he looks at the furniture store.
He's just looking at my car.
And like, he just stops and he sits there.
And it's about five minutes.
I'm kind of like, what is he, you know, should I be worried about this?
What's going on?
So he gets up, he tucks in, he puts his shirt on correctly, tucks his shirt in, tightens his belt, takes off his durag, and he goes inside of Jack in the Box.
And he comes back with an application.
And he sits next to the car, and he's just fills it out.
And he sat there, looked at the car for a little bit.
He went inside and he turned in the application.
He comes back and he sits by the car again.
He's just sitting there.
And then he walks away and he leaves.
But he doesn't touch his wardrobe.
He doesn't untouch his shirt.
He doesn't put his do rag back on.
And he literally just walked away a different person.
Wow.
And that kind of proved to me that I'm doing what I need to do.
Like I'm on the right path to the point to where someone else can actually not even see me.
Like I'm living through the energy, I guess, of my car.
It was wild to me.
And the second time it happened, I was a little older and I was just sitting at a restaurant by myself, just eating a burger.
And this person, this guy comes up to me.
He's a really good friend of mine now.
He's just like, hey, man, he goes, this is going to sound really weird, dude, but I just had this feeling I should come over and talk to you.
He's like, I don't, I know this is going to sound weird, man.
You can tell me the F off, like, but my name is Jay and I live around here.
He goes, if you ever want to hang out or do anything, man, just here's my number and this and that.
He goes, I promise I'm not hitting on you, man.
He goes, but something's just telling me to come over and talk to you.
And he ended up needing a positive influence in his life.
And he was a drug dealer and this and that.
And he was just like, bro, I don't know what it is, man, but you make me want to be a better person.
And I would just go around and hang out once a week on Saturdays, watch UFC or something, just to hang out.
And he ended up living a couple blocks from me, which was crazy.
So there's something about living righteous that, you know, you become a magnet for, I don't know, I don't say the wounded, but you just, you just, humans attract to that.
It's just one of those unexplainable things that I enjoy till this day.
Well, you know, the Bible talks about how mods are drawn to the light, right?
And sometimes if we walk in that light and people are in darkness, they're going to be drawn to us.
And we just got to show them that light and show them, you know, show them Jesus because he's the picture of how to get back.
And a lot of people don't realize how little, how far a little bit of light goes.
Yeah.
Because you think about it, in a dark room, any light scares darkness away.
But darkness never scares the light away.
Exactly.
A little light will get you across the long way.
Yeah.
A whole valley, right?
A long way.
So there's just some things, like I said, you can never forget.
And a lot of people just need to realize how powerful they are and how powerful, you know, coming together and then kind of, you know, the collective ideology of wanting to change the world is what we need to be able to change the world.
Because one person is not going to be able to do it.
Yeah, I think that 2025 is going to be the year of, I don't want to say like renewal, but it's going to be, you know, it's going to be a revival.
It's going to be a whole different outlook.
Just as I feel like we hit a wormhole in 2016, 2017, whenever this inversion started, I think it's going to get to that it's going to get people are going to wake up to the point to where it's just going to feel like we're back to normal at least that's what i'm hoping for well there was a prophet his name was bob jones 2012 he prophesied he said the the last move would come and people would be swept in all over the world it'd be the greatest move of god anybody's ever seen and
it would it would start in like a revival and then it would just consume the whole earth with the glory of god he he talked about it a lot right and he was known for words that he gave that would come to pass and he's not the only one but many others you know have talked about that well he said the sign okay that this was getting ready to go would be that the kansas city chiefs would win the super bowl so
last year they won the super bowl and i was waiting for it to take off and some revivals broke out in different parts of the world but they were small i was like well lord what's going on and i never even thought about that all of a sudden here's kansas city back in the super bowl and i'm thinking uh-oh and and there's a lot of other signs i could get into right now major biblical signs massive and it you know stuff that it you know like give give the fans a little a little little
touch taste of that because a lot of them like they a lot of our fans are kind of anti-football right now really yeah well if your team's not in you're gonna be anti-football right yeah but um like for the last time you were on we i was gonna take some calls and half the calls were disappointed that you weren't taking the calls with me oh wow all right so my our fan base really has the the urge and the want to to understand and know more what what you have to say well
what's interesting about why the kansas city chiefs right why not the pittsburgh steelers right um or or somebody else one of the things and i still believe it can still start because you know kansas city won the super bowl last year but it seems to me that the lord is emphasizing what we're coming into right now and there's some massive signs one why the chiefs well the word chief comes from the from the greek word for apostle or high priest so and
the whole bible is about the reestablishment of the fathers or the high priest malachi talks about it i'll turn the hearts of the children back to the fathers paul says he's a father he goes though you have 10 000 instructors you have very few fathers apostles or chiefs so and bob jones wasn't a chief fan either so he just wasn't picking his favorite team right so there was that so okay we got that one the early church and the jews believed that the messiah
had to come in a jubilee year well from last september and jubilee years only come on the 49th and 50th year so from september of last year till september of this coming year right or the year we're in is a jubilee year a 50th jubilee so that's a big sign that's a massive sign actually or else they're gonna have to wait another 50 years but i i was talking to you about those time frames
that would fall out of that time frame right the eschatology even the early church seen this right one of the massive things and i don't really like talking about it on tele uh on radio or even tv tv is this because it's such a crucial thing this year um they are going to slay in israel the 10th red heifer right now the red heifer is a bull
that they normally didn't sacrifice but they needed the ashes of that red heifer in order to cleanse the temple right so well that's jewish understanding but if you go to hebrews 3 it talks about jesus being a red heifer right that he was slain outside the camp and it talks about us like jesus going outside the camp to be slain we have to be like him or we have to be the red heifer which could be pointing to the second coming of jesus right and
again i don't believe it's just going to stop you you know what i believe it's going to go into the glory right so and that's what the early church believed so five red heifers were sent to israel this year that's what i was just about to bring up yep and they all came from texas yep which i believe that's a sign also and so these red heifers are so far and few between that only nine of them in biblical history has ever been killed nine
out of all the from moses till the coming of jesus only nine of these things not you got to understand that red heifer has to be all red has to be a certain shade of red it can't have a white hair in the in the nose or any other part of its body or black hair it has to be completely red and so when these things would come on the scene to the jewish people it was a sign that it was time for a cleaning of the temple
well the temple's also us so there's this third temple that everybody's talking about but you have to realize there's a third temple being clean which is us too right body is a temple exactly don't you know that you're the temple of the holy spirit right so this red heifer is a massive sign that we are in the time of the return of the messiah and it has to be well if the if the messiah has to come on the 50th year in a jubilee year right and
this is jubilee year but they also need from the jewish perspective they need to kill a red heifer for the cleaning of the temple right and the messiah has to do that that means the messiah and the red heifer have to come in the same jubilee year especially if it's the last one right so that's a massive sign the reason i don't like talking about it because the the you know, there's so many things going on in the Middle East right now.
But the Jews are going to do that here shortly.
A lot of Jewish friends, so I'm not freaked out by your culture.
I know a little bit about it just from hanging around.
I'd be like, yo, yo, let's go out at school tomorrow.
They'll be like, we can't go out at Sha-Nana tomorrow.
I'll be like, what?
Sha-na-na-na.
I got so many questions.
Why do some of you people dress like Run-DMC?
Why do some of you people dress like Run-DMC?
The Brooklyn show business rules.
This is a rule.
You know, the rules of perception.
If they're black, then it's a gang.
If they're Italian, it's a mob.
but if they're Jewish, it's a coincidence and he should never speak about it.
LAUGHTER laughter laughter I ain't got in so much trouble.
Kyrie got in trouble.
Kyrie Irving posted a link to a movie that he had seen on Amazon.
No caption on the post or nothing like that.
But apparently this movie had some, I don't know, anti-Semitic tropes or something.
It was some weird title like from Hebrew to Negro or something.
And the NBA told me you should apologize, and he was slow to apologize.
And then the list of demands to get back in their good graces got longer and longer.
And this is where, you know, I draw the line.
I know the Jewish people have been through terrible things all over the world, but you can't blame that on black Americans.
You just can't.
You know what I mean?
Thanks, the one person that said.
A fair punishment beef, you should just post a link to Shinland's list and y'all write your own captions.
Kyrie Irvin's black ass was nowhere near the Holocaust.
In fact, he's not even certain it existed.
I saw one news pundit screaming about Kanye.
She said, mental health is no excuse for that type of language.
Yes, it is, bitch.
You kill somebody if you're mentally ill.
Listen, okay, I don't think Kanye is crazy at all.
he's possibly not well.
I've been to Hollywood.
Don't want y'all to get mad at me.
I'm just telling you, I've been to Hollywood.
This is just what I saw.
It's a lot of juice.
Like a lot.
But that didn't mean anything.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of black people in Ferguson, Missouri.
Let me run a place.
Thank you.
I could see if you had some kind of issue.
You know what I mean?
You might go out to Hollywood and you might start connecting some kind of lines and you could maybe adopt the delusion that the Jews run show business.
It's not a crazy thing to think, but it's a crazy thing to say out loud in a climate like this.
And I know those guys.
I know what's getting ready to happen.
And it's a massive sign, whether the church wants to believe it or not, that we are now moving into what is called the time of redemption.
And so what is the time of redemption?
Well, it's what Adam lost being restored in the earth, right?
So this red heifer right now, one, is talked about in Hebrews by Paul as being symbolic of Jesus.
But more so, not only do I believe it's symbolic of the second coming of Jesus, right?
But it is also symbolic of Jesus and his bride coming together.
So because Paul says that.
So here we have that.
I'll tell you an amazing story, a testimony, that the guy that brought the red heifers to Israel, a farmer from here in Texas, right?
He was praying about this.
Lord, he was talking to the rabbis.
They had the red heifers ready to go.
It was a very expensive endeavor.
So he's like, Lord, do you really want me to do this?
Well, the ashes of the red heifer had to be sprinkled with the waters of the Pool of Saloam.
The Pool of Salom has been blocked up for hundreds of years, meaning they didn't even know where it was.
They had an idea where it was, but it was like a dead spring.
There was no water coming out of it, right?
So he's praying about that.
And he goes over to prayer with this rabbi.
And by the way, this red heifer has to be killed.
Not in the temple.
It has to be killed near the olive garden.
What's it?
The mountain over there where they made the olives to create the anointing oil.
Jesus was there the night that he was taken.
It had to be sacrificed there.
That piece of property is like worth $500,000 a square foot.
Wow.
So this guy, this rabbi, finds out that somehow he got this property.
It was just given to him.
And he's thinking he's going to buy or create a he was going to create a restaurant or a coffee shop there that you can overlook the Temple Mount, right?
And here he finds out he has the property where the red heifer has to be slain.
Wow.
And like, nobody, that mountain, the Mount of Olives, you cannot get property on it.
And here he has this property, right?
So he's working with this other brother from here in Texas.
And he's praying about the Pula Saloma, or he's praying about if he should do it.
He leaves the prayer room to go walking back to where he was staying, saying, and the street was flooded.
And he was like, what's this?
So they went to, they thought a water line broke, right?
They go back up, and the pula saloon had opened back up.
Wow.
And so now they have the water.
And he knew, when he's seen that water, okay, I'll bring, he turned to him and he said, okay, we'll bring the red heifers over.
Somehow we'll get them here.
So they brought the red heifers over.
They have the water of the pula saloon because they need those two mixed together to sanctify the temple, to sanctify the people.
They have to have those things.
Well, if the temple is being sanctified, you're the temple.
If the people are sanctified, being sanctified, and you're the people, from the water and the ashes of the ox, what's that saying?
There's coming a move of God by the water of the washing of the word.
And there's so many times this is being referenced in the New Testament, but because we don't understand the Old Testament, we're just saying stuff, not understanding what's really being said.
And there's Christians who say, well, that don't mean nothing to me.
But when you go to the book of Ezekiel, Ezekiel prophesies about how that will open back up at the end of the age and that the red heifer will be sacrificed.
Hallelujah.
And the sins of the nations will be washed by the Lamb of God, right?
So now all of a sudden, Ezekiel prophesies this happening now.
And you and I are going to sit here and watch something that nobody has ever seen, that eye has not seen, ear has not heard, the good things that are in store for those that love him, right?
So all this biblical prophecy is coming to pass now.
And people are looking for all this other stuff, the Russians that come down to Israel.
That's irrelevant.
This is the stuff.
These are the prophecies that the early church looked for, biblical things that pointed to, like, you know, not a physical ox, but our ox, Jesus.
Us as oxes, us as apostolic people, right?
People that have understanding, people that have the knowledge of what the Lord wants to do.
So all those things are about us, you know, what the Lord wants to do.
So we live in incredible times.
We live in great times.
And I don't plan on leaving.
I plan on being here for the whole thing.
Yeah.
I mean, we could sit here and talk for hours.
I know you got to get back to Houston and you got a bunch of people's lives to help.
So I do want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you for having this conversation.
And we're definitely going to do it again.
Definitely.
Well, I appreciate you, brother.
I appreciate being around you.
And every time I've ever been around you, I feel like there's a call on your life.
I mean, InfoWars is right now, but who knows in the future, right?
There's something that you carry that's why people are attracted to you.
That's why people want to hear from you.
That's why your show is liked by so many people.
Thank you.
That's all God favor on you, brother.
Absolutely.
If you ever need me, I'm here for you.
I'm only right down the road.
I know.
And I'm definitely going to.
You got to come to church more.
I'm going.
That's what I was just about to say.
I need to go.
I'm going to start going a lot more.
Even when I went on that Tuesday, coming through and driving back, it wasn't.
It's like, oh yeah, I drive.
I love driving.
Well, if you ever want to come down and stay over, we got plenty of people to give you a place for the night.
Definitely.
Get your hotel room, whatever.
Big change then.
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