Brendan Carr's FCC threatens "The View" with fines or license revocation over alleged equal time violations regarding Democratic guests like Jasmine Crockett and Prince Andrew's past. While Whoopi Goldberg defends her inclusion in Jeffrey Epstein's charity list against thousands of Trump mentions, the administration argues that local ABC affiliates must enforce neutrality on federally controlled airwaves. Ultimately, this enforcement signals a potential shift where network television faces stricter regulatory scrutiny than cable, fundamentally altering broadcast standards for political discourse. [Automatically generated summary]
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FCC Steps In At CBS00:06:39
Here we go.
Welcome to the big show.
It's great to have you here on Trish Regan's show.
And, you know, another day goes by and we're hearing about more problems over at The View.
Now, the FCC is getting involved, and you'd think these people would be a little bit smarter, right?
They've been given tons of warnings.
And yet now we're at a particular sort of point in time where I don't think the FCC has much choice but to move forward with these penalties.
And that's, in fact, what Brendan Carr, head of the FCC, is telling us.
We're going to talk about that, plus all things Prince Andrew.
You know, Donald Trump warned about him 15 years ago.
Like, it's sort of amazing.
I want to go back in time and show you that clip about what Donald Trump was saying about both FC and literally Prince Andrew way back when.
We have a lot to cover.
Of course, the situation unfolding in Iran, and we are now stepping up our military presence there significantly.
The president speaking on this moments ago, we will go to him.
But again, we begin the day on none other than the ladies at the View.
The ladies at the View really don't have a clue now, do they?
Because Brendan Carr has told them over and over and over again, look, you can't operate this way.
This is not how it's going to go down.
And yet they continue to ignore him.
It's rather remarkable.
We're going to move forward on these penalties.
Let me see if I can bring this up for you.
I want to show you what they're suggesting is going to happen now with Brendan Carr saying he is going to actually begin those quote unquote enforcement proceedings against ABC's The View over equal time issues.
The reason this is coming to a head is because, well, let's face it, the show is 99% Democrats all the time.
Time.
I mean, they had Arnold Schwarzenegger on, if you can count him as a conservative once, and he tried to put them in their place saying, Hey, hey, hey, you know what?
You come to this country, you're an immigrant.
We've played this on the shorts feed a few times for you guys.
You like this one.
Anyway, Arnold trying to set them straight.
They all had this look of what on their faces.
But that was like the only conservative they had ever put on, besides MTG.
I guess you're a conservative that gets on the show if you hate Donald Trump.
That's when it all seems to come together for them.
They'll bring you on if you hate Donald Trump, if you're a never trumper.
So, MTG was sort of grandfathered in because of that.
As soon as she turned, right, they brought her on to talk about how much she hated Trump.
But consistently, over and over and over again, they just keep bringing Democrats on.
And on top of that, you get a very important race that's coming up where they're going to start beginning.
They're already beginning some of the early voting there in Texas.
And it's Jasmine Crockett versus this guy who looks like he's like 12.
I'm sorry.
He's like 12.
He's like Doogie Houser or something.
Okay.
So, James Tolerico or something.
He's.
Running against Jasmine Crockett.
And so, why do they keep putting both of them on?
They had Jasmine on and then they brought James Tolerico on.
It's a little bit strange.
And Brennan Carr's like, you know, you can't do that, guys.
You just can't do this.
And he keeps telling them, and I'm going to keep telling you that there's a different standard for broadcast.
And you are governed by the FCC.
So, if you were cable, you could bring on all your favorite Democrats all day long, every single day of the week.
It would not be an issue.
But when you try to do that on network television, it is an issue.
And so, you know, some of these late night shows are trying to figure that one out.
They're learning the hard way.
Stephen Colbert, for example, who's into it with CBS.
Oh, you know, CBS is trying to censor me.
And, you know, this one, Brendan Carr, he's trying to censor me.
No, Brendan actually came out and said, I didn't censor you, Stephen.
And CBS said, We didn't either.
You know, this is just, you're having to deal with reality when we present you with the legal challenges.
Remember, he was slamming.
The Trump administration, the FCC, he was slamming CBS.
His employer, CBS, came out and said, Not us.
We're just telling you what the legal risks are because there are legal risks because there are laws involved in this.
So, what does it mean for penalty?
This CNN reporter doesn't think it'll mean much.
I think he's wrong on this and we'll talk about it.
But let's go to the view on CNN over these FCC concerns, whether it be with Colbert or, of course, The View.
I was told by a source familiar with the matter tonight.
That yes, ABC has been contacted by the FCC.
That yes, there is an active investigation into The View.
Now, I feel kind of funny saying those words, like an investigation into The View, right?
It seems kind of ludicrous.
But it is true, the FCC sent some letters, ABC has responded.
There is this back and forth, and I'm told that is what caused concern among CBS lawyers.
That is what caused this chill at CBS.
But the FCC has very little actual enforcement power.
Yeah, they could make ABC pay a fine, but they're not going to revoke a station license.
So ultimately, the FCC didn't do this.
The FCC created a chill, but the CBS lawyers did this.
And there is a term for what's happening at CBS.
It's called obeying in advance.
Hmm.
Obeying in advance.
Why not just obeying the law?
Okay.
Like, why are we like having a big thing about this?
For whatever reason, ever since Donald Trump first came to office, the networks have kind of gone over the deep end in terms of their own bias.
And for whatever reason, nobody chose to enforce FCC rules, which have always been on the books.
And so, in this particular case, what could it mean?
Well, the affiliation thing is a big deal.
The affiliation thing is a big deal because all of these ABC affiliates are licensed by the FCC.
So, you have all these local stations, like 250 of them, all around the country.
ABC actually owns only about seven or so.
They have what are called OOs, owned and operated stations.
The rest are granted broadcast license from the FCC.
And so, the FCC has the ability to pull those if they think that they're running programming that's really not following the law.
The equal time, equal opportunity time rules, where if you're going to have one Democrat on, then You got to have one Republican on.
It's not that hard.
I mean, you could follow the rules, right?
And then it wouldn't be a big deal.
But Colbert decided to try and pull an ABC thing.
And yes, his network's lawyer said, hey, you might not want to do this unless you're willing to deal with any penalties that might ensue.
So, what could be those penalties?
Brendan Carr very, very easily could threaten those stations with losing their licenses.
And if they lose their licenses because they keep showing shows like The View over and over and over again, they're not going to be too happy.
Electability And Equal Time Rules00:02:41
So they're going to now, in turn, put pressure on ABC News, the network, to say, hey, you got to serve up some better programming.
Trust me, they'd all love to get rid of The View.
It doesn't rate very well.
They'd love to take that time back.
And then they could use it for local programming.
They could do their own local view and they'd make more money and they'd all be happy.
And so this may be giving them a window of opportunity to do that.
And this is the network's biggest fear, all self induced, because they're the ones.
Do not forget that decided to put James Tellurico, the 12 year old who's running for Senate in Texas, the Democrat, against Jasmine Crockett.
Remember?
This is, remember, I just want to advise you, this was like days after Jasmine had been on bashing Trump, bashing ICE.
You know the drill.
And then this guy comes on saying this watch.
You're running in the Democratic primary against U.S. Rep. Jasmine Crockett.
And there has been a lot of discourse around her electability.
And some would say that is code.
For they don't think a black woman can win statewide.
Should she win this primary against you, do you think she can win a statewide race?
Absolutely.
Congresswoman Crockett is my friend.
I have deep love and respect for her.
She is a leader in our state.
And I've said before that if she wins this nomination, I will be behind her 1,000%.
And I will do everything I possibly can to get her over the finish line.
We're on the same team, Jasmine and I. We're trying to change the politics of our state and take back this country.
And we're both putting forward our experiences and our skill sets in a healthy competition.
And what I think I bring to this primary is something unique.
But I love her.
Right.
So this is actually just helping Jasmine, who he goes on and on to talk about himself, whatever.
I don't think he's going to get to first base.
I've looked at some of the initial polls and I can show that with you.
And so I think it's actually really appropriate that the administration step up and enforce these equal time rules.
Because again, if you're broadcast, you have to kind of play by these rules.
And if you're cable, you don't.
If you're YouTube, you don't.
Okay, so thank you.
Reminder, subscribe, share, like, make a comment here again.
I can see everything live.
But let's just listen to the rest of James speaking here as we prepare for some poll data that shows Jasmine is probably going to be, and I think we want her to be, let's be honest, the Democrat nominee there in Texas for Senate.
I have a history of winning these kind of races.
I got elected to the statehouse by flipping a Trump district that no one thought was winnable in a county that was so red.
It hadn't voted for a Democrat for president since Jimmy Carter.
And I did that by building a big tent, by inspiring Democrats to get off the couch.
Who Controls The Airwaves00:04:05
Okay.
Well, he's probably not going to be the nominee.
So amazing as it seems, because I just can't imagine anybody voting for her, especially in the likes of Texas, where, you know, people tend to be a little bit smarter.
She is actually pulling ahead of him.
So Crockett's support, according to the University of Houston's Hobby School of Public Affairs, she's got an eight point lead over.
Tallarico.
So Crockett's support apparently was at 47%, while 39% said they planned to cast their vote for the little 12 year old.
Another candidate, someone named Ahmad Hassan.
Received 2% support, while 12% of respondents said they were still undecided.
So the administration is like, why are you giving all of this time to effectively Jasmine?
Like, that doesn't really seem appropriate now, does it?
And this is why you're going to find a real big problem here.
Again, Brendan Carr, if you're just joining us, has come out today and said that he intends to persevere here, and he's begun what they call enforcement proceedings against ABC's The View.
So, they can impose fines, for example, forfeitures.
The stations can face monetary policies if they improperly deny equal opportunities.
So, this is again the affiliates that are going to feel the pain here.
And so, they're in turn going to be very angry at ABC News for putting them in this precarious legal position.
This would basically also lead to the possibility of license renewals not being given.
So, if you're up for your license renewal, these broadcast licenses are periodically reviewed.
And he may say, you know what, we're not going to give it to the station in Denver.
I'm making this up, you know, not to pick on Denver, but we're not going to give it to Minneapolis this year because you guys are broadcasting these shows.
And they may say, well, it's not our fault.
And he'll say, but it is because you see, you control the airwaves.
We really control the airwaves because we're the feds and we have jurisdiction over you.
And you are choosing to put this programming on that is putting you in legal jeopardy.
So, certainly in extreme cases, the FCC could be looking at revoking these licenses, and it would be rare.
But you know what, this administration, I wouldn't put it past them.
And so at this point, when they're looking at what they can do to enforce the rules, so to speak, they have pretty broad jurisdiction.
And if they choose to use this, then the view could be off the air in a lot of markets.
So now you've got the ball back in the affiliates' court, and they're going to ABC and they're saying, We don't want this risk.
We don't want Whoopi on the air.
She's not that great anyway.
Nobody's watching her.
The ratings are lousy.
Let's take back that time.
They have contracts you see in place.
And the contracts are with ABC News, and ABC News says, But we produce the view and we provide this to you.
And they're saying, Well, we don't want it.
Remember what happened with Jimmy Kimmel after Charlie Kirk's death and he said those really heinous things?
And all the affiliates were like, Whoa, because they're getting calls from viewers who have all kinds of complaints.
And if there are that many complaints, you have to take that seriously.
Again, federally controlled airwaves, not controlled in the sense, but certainly jurisdiction matters in this case.
And because they have that jurisdiction, they're saying, Listen, you are here.
To serve the public good.
And part of serving the public good is making sure that you're not promoting one agenda over another and you're not just pushing Democrat candidates on people all the time.
So that's where we are.
And this is why this is very serious right now.
And I wouldn't be surprised if you see the network really start to shift back towards hopefully what they were, right?
When that show first came out, it was designed to be much more level headed and less biased.
And I think over recent years, it's just deteriorated over and over and over again.
And, you know, Whoopi Goldberg knows it.
Joy Behar knows it.
They know what they're doing, and they've continued to flaunt this.
They've continued to really push the envelope.
Epstein List Controversy00:03:24
And Brennan Carr is coming back and saying, No way, Jose, that's not flying.
You know, look, it's a very biased show.
You know that.
You know what they've said about Donald Trump and the allegations that they have made against Trump with everything.
But I'll point out Epstein as an example because Whoopi's name got caught up in this as well.
And she addressed this on the show this week.
Let's go to this tape.
Now, in the name of transparency, can you put up my name is in the files?
Yes.
And what does it say?
It says, Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco.
John Lennon's charity, it should say Julian Lennon's charity, is paying for it.
They don't want to charter, so they're looking for private owners.
Here's the info.
And they give all the information, and they're saying, do you want to offer your G2?
It looks like they said no thanks.
So, in other words, anybody can be on this list.
Well, this is my point because I'm telling you, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into, I wasn't his girlfriend.
I wasn't his friend.
I was not only too old, but it was at a time, you know, where this is just not, you used to have to have facts before you said stuff.
But Trump is on the list 38,000 times.
Well, I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged.
People actually believe.
That I was with him.
It's like, honey, come on.
Every man that I've ever been with, you've known about him because either the Enquirer wrote it about it.
People wrote about this stuff.
So, no, I never had this, you know.
And, no, I didn't get on the plane because you know what I would have to do to get on the plane?
They were trying to, yeah.
And she doesn't have to.
No, so they're trying to get me to get on a plane to get to this thing for Julian Lamb.
Yeah, but the thing is, they dropped like 300 names.
Yes.
And it's like flood the zone because when you're looking there, People like Marilyn Monroe, who is dead.
Elvis.
Yeah, a lot of people, because a lot of the reasons your name can be mentioned are news articles, third party emails, contacts.
Again, wealthy, famous people often cross in professional and social circles.
So that's not the surprising part.
So you would think that she's feeling, and her frustration that she's feeling, because she's been included in this list, you know, just impassively.
You'd think she'd afford the president, for example, a little bit more latitude, because the president.
Is mentioned mostly because Jeffrey Epstein seems to be gossiping about him in all of these files and complaining about him and this, that, and the other.
And he's not mentioned in ways that would be really implicating him.
I don't know, like Bill Gates, okay?
Like that was a doozy, all right?
We don't need to go there.
It's still relatively early where I am.
But that's critical, right?
So she's saying, gee, this isn't fair.
After they've all been bashing him and bashing me, oh, he's associated with this.
You heard Joy say, Oh, his name is in there 30,000 times.
But it's like, Well, how is somebody's name in there?
I mean, is it in like Bill Gates is in there?
Or is it in like Whoopi's in there?
Or is it just, you know, let me complain about them because it's him because I hate this guy.