Pam Bondi faces intense criticism from Trish Regan for a DOJ "disaster" involving leaked Epstein files that exposed unredacted details, including a $400,000 payment to a Russian model. Regan argues Bondi failed the September 30, 2025, statute of limitations deadline regarding James Comey and mishandled Lindsey Halligan's appointment, causing an indictment collapse. The host contrasts Bondi with Dan Bongino, who allegedly quit due to incompetence, while highlighting ignored corruption cases like a $9 billion Minnesota autism fraud and a $2.3 billion California homelessness scandal, suggesting Bondi lacks the litigator acumen required for her role. [Automatically generated summary]
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Redacted Pages Prove Incompetence00:04:15
Welcome to the big show, everyone.
I am Trish Regan.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to all of you.
You know, it's a big day, and I hope you have big plans.
I certainly do.
But I wanted to at least be with you here at this hour because there's another big story going on behind the scenes that not everybody's talking about right now.
And I think it's pretty important to address.
You know that while I like Pam Bondi a lot on a personal level, I think she's lovely.
I do think that she has the president's best interests.
At heart.
I really mean that.
I just think the woman is actually incompetent, and the latest news that i'm about to inform you of coming out of the DOJ in regards to the release of those hundreds of thousands of pages that we've all been waiting for uh, really to me proves it in a really significant, massive and disastrous way.
In other words, the time has come for the president to admit that poor Pam is in over her head now.
I realize she's not actually responsible for what just went down, that it was her underlings, but i'm sorry, like at some point the buck stops with her.
And while I can actually draw a direct connection to the lack of timing and sophistication and understanding the nuance of the calendar though it really shouldn't be that hard, let's be honest, a statute of limitations is a statute of limitations, and she forgot to turn her homework in on time, right?
She forgot when the due date was, for goodness sakes, on James Comey.
I'm looking at what just went down with the release of these new files, the notorious Epstein files, and I can't believe what I'm seeing.
A couple weeks ago, we saw Leading Report.
It was a pretty good Twitter handle.
You guys should check it out.
They actually are all over things before anyone.
And they were saying that it was rumored that Pam Bondi was about to be replaced by none other than Andrew Bailey and that he was going to be moving up to run the DOJ.
He's an attorney by background.
He's at the FBI.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen, at least not yet.
But I think now, after you see what I'm about to show you, the jig is up.
I'm sorry, Pam.
The jig is up because it turns out that she allowed the release of hundreds of thousands of pages that internet sleuths were able to go online and basically get all the redacted information out in the open.
So, you know how the FBI like redacts things?
They release these things to the public and they redact them, and you see like big swaths of black ink so that you can't read.
names so that you can't read who the actual people were that they were talking about.
Well, in this case, they redacted it.
But as soon as you put it into like a Word format document, you take the stuff that's online, you put it into a Word document and you can see past changes, right?
Just like an attorney, they redline a document and you want to go back and see what was redlined and not redlined.
Well, all you have to do is hit one button and suddenly everything that was redacted is out there in the open.
I mean, I honestly can't believe this.
Like, I cannot believe this.
Let me go to, and by the way, out of respect for the people involved, and there's a Russian model that they're talking about that apparently got paid off by somebody to the tune of $400,000.
And just in the interest of keeping people's names out of it, I actually did some clever editing on this.
So you're not actually going to see, like, it's still redacted, okay?
Because I actually believe if the government wanted to keep this secret, it should stay secret.
But, and there's, by the way, you know, you can see it online, you can see it on Twitter.
There's nothing.
That's interesting and nothing special here, but I guess we got some more redacting to do, so I'm gonna have a busy few days ahead of me.
I think they're trying to like change this in the process and they're trying to fix the technology, but I just can't believe that anybody would be so stupid as to release this.
So I'm sorry, you know.
Statute of Limitations Issues00:15:39
She, I was disgusted by what went down with Comey, but this one, for goodness sakes, let's watch it together.
Oh, look at this pesky redaction, let's just get Let's just get rid of that.
That is insane.
This is what happens when you fire government.
I mean, come on, right?
Come on.
Now, so, you know, the people on whatever, TikTok, they're saying, oh, you know, it's because they fired so many government employees.
I'd say this it's because you guys don't have the right people there.
I mean, again, it's not like Pam is the one watching the technology to make sure that this stuff is.
Doesn't happen, but the buck's got to stop with someone and it's not going to be the president.
Okay.
So, Pam Bondi, get your new, you know what, together.
You got to get your team together.
I don't think she's a very good manager.
That's my issue here.
And I go back to what happened.
Remember with Comey, September 30th, 2025, was the statute of limitations was going to run out.
And you can twist this any which way you want.
You can say, oh, you know, it's not fair.
It's the statute of limitations.
Well, guess what?
Like the way the legal system works, statute of limitations, statute of limitations.
You can't like finagle your way around that.
And you can't sweet talk your way around it.
It is what it is.
And so what do you do if you are running the DOJ and you kind of know that the president has this high on his agenda?
Now, before we get into the debate of whether the DOJ is doing his business or not, by the way, the DOJ for Biden, we've since learned, was totally doing his business.
What do you think the Mar-a-Lago raid was about?
That's all come out in emails now.
The FBI at the time was like, oh, we don't really have.
You know the need to do this.
We can probably work with his lawyers, we don't have to do this.
And then the DOJ, in fact we've got emails from the deputy headed of the UH Department OF Justice and he's like, no no no, I don't give a damn, because he thinks he's like Ret Butler talking to Scarlett O'hara or something.
So they were very politically motivated in what they did.
So you know, we're not going to get into the.
Well, you know she shouldn't have been doing this, because it's just what the president wanted to do.
Let's just assume Because we're all big boys here and gals, that yeah, the president probably wanted the Comey stuff to come out.
Everybody did.
I mean, for goodness sakes, Rand Paul was like a dog with a bone on that because he felt that he had been lied to.
And by my estimation, he absolutely was.
But they only had five years to get him on it.
September 30th, 2025, was the end of the time they could go back and get him.
So if you are head of the DOJ, what do you do?
You mark the date on the calendar and you have a little sticky note on your computer that says September 30th.
2025, put on a whiteboard.
I don't care what you do.
But you go and you say, Hey, how's this investigation coming?
Where are we?
You manage it for goodness sakes.
We need somebody who's a chief executor of the DOJ.
We need somebody, oh, dare I say, with some business skills.
You know, forget these goddamn politicians.
They don't know how to do squat and their teams don't know how to do squat.
You got to get some real people in there.
And by real people, I want a real lawyer, a real lawyer that's run a big shop, like a Big, big, big DC firm or a big Wall Street firm that knows how to litigate and not only knows how to litigate, knows how to run a team of litigators.
I don't want a politician like Pam Bonnie.
I'm sorry, I'm done.
Okay, I'm done.
She's just another, she's the rights version of Letitia James at this point.
Get me someone who can do the job.
And it's not Pam.
Because someone who can do the job doesn't allow for that to happen.
We don't redact things only to not actually have them redacted, right?
Risky redaction.
This is pathetic.
Let's just.
Let's just skip.
I mean, absolutely, positively, utterly pathetic.
No excuse for it.
No excuse for it.
And I'm sorry.
Like, again, she's a very nice person.
And you know what?
She's great on television.
I haven't seen her on television a lot lately.
Yeah.
She's probably hiding right now.
I mean, she's had a few screw ups along the way.
Like, oh, the files are sitting there on my desk.
Even Susie Wiles was like, oh, that was a big whiff.
Yeah, that was a whiff.
Okay.
A few too many whiffs.
I'm whiffed out.
I have the interest of the country and the interest of the president at heart.
My interests are very pure and very simple.
And I'm not saying she's not a nice person.
And I'm not saying that this was deliberate.
Okay.
Believe me, I don't think it was.
I think she's just literally incompetent.
And she's a politician.
She's not a real lawyer.
She's not a real litigator.
She's never run a big, big shop.
So I don't know.
Get me someone from Sullivan and Cromwell.
Thank you very much.
okay that's like a real litigator who knows how to run a team of litigators and knows how to chick up on people and say, well, where are we on this project?
Because, you know, September 25th, 2025, 30th, forgive me, is coming around the corner.
Think about that.
I mean, they let that thing slide and slide.
What was his name?
Eric Seabird, who's, by the way, buddies, buddies with James Comey's son-in-law, allegedly.
For goodness sakes, what the heck?
What the heck is James Comey's son-in-law doing in the U.S. attorney's office that's about to prosecute him?
Come on.
This is low-hanging fruit.
Okay.
So I'm sorry.
She's cute.
She's blonde.
She loves the president.
Fine.
It's not enough.
We've got to do better.
And you know what?
I'm telling you, like Dan Bongino, you want to know why Dan Bongino left?
I'm going to tell you the real reason why Dan Bongino left.
Dan Bongino left because he's not going to work for an incompetent boss, somebody who can't get the gig from, Here to there, who can't do the job, right?
Like she just can't do the job.
And remember, he went there with pretty pure intentions.
Remember when he said this?
Let me ask you about are you going to be looking into, when Cash and Pam, any potential collusion between the DOJ, Letitia James, the novel legal theory of Alvin Bragg or Nathan Wade or Fonnie Willis and the DOJ?
Is that something?
Has anything come up?
Is there any way to determine whether or not?
Evidence was destroyed in any of these cases?
Well, there's always a way to determine that.
I don't want to comment on that specific case right now for a reason.
I don't want to get ahead of the Department of Justice on that.
But I want to say this: you know, the FBI obviously has the public corruption portfolio.
And yes, if you are a corrupt politician out there, if you are engaged in behavior, you know what you're doing, we're going to find you.
I promise.
No one is going to get off the days of.
Selecting and putting your partisan bias on and taking care of your friends.
Those days are over.
You know what, Sean?
I don't have any friends.
I don't want any friends.
Well, maybe outside of you and a couple of them.
I don't care.
I didn't come here for the money.
I didn't come here to make friends.
I know.
You didn't go there for the money.
I can tell people I don't want any friends.
I don't give a damn about friends.
I don't have any friends.
I don't want any friends.
I got my wife, I got you, and I got a small crew of people.
So I don't need any friends.
If you're a partisan, get a dog.
We're coming for you.
That'll help.
Yeah, go.
You want a friend in DC?
Right.
Go get a labradoodle like I have.
Because there are no friends in D.C. You've been doing this for what, 30 years?
They're no friends here.
So he went there to get a job done.
He wanted Comey to pay the price for allegedly lying under oath during testimony before Congress, for pretending he wasn't talking to the press when he actually had the press on speed dial via his various surrogates who were on the payroll for the FBI, including his professor friend at Columbia Law.
So Dan goes there to get a job done, and you got.
Incompetent bureaucrats and incompetent politicians, of which she's both in the way.
I mean, think about the rollout of the whole Epstein file.
Again, the files are on my desk, except they weren't.
And then it turns out she's got a truckload of them coming from New York because you had to fire the guy who's running the FBI in New York in order to get the files.
Oh, interestingly, Comey's daughter was working in that field office.
Comey's kind of got his hands all over everything, right?
Again, you should know this, Pam, you should know this.
when you're running the DOJ.
And you should make sure that you dot your I's and that you cross your T's and that you don't give false promises to the media and you don't say, I got the file sitting there right on my desk when you don't.
Because you're abusing the public trust.
And I'm going to be honest.
Our trust is fragile at this point.
Very, very fragile.
And you're causing us To really doubt your competency.
I mean, the ship has already sailed as far as I'm concerned.
The woman needs to actually go.
And I do think that they're actually thinking about, well, what could be, who could take over?
Andrew Bailey, I guess, well, he's a politician as well.
So I want them to go in a new direction, okay?
This is my recommendation to the president.
You know what?
You need somebody who knows how to run a real shop.
I don't care what they look like on camera.
Let Pam keep a job in PR, all right?
She can get up there and be the PR person for the DOJ.
But she cannot be running this when we're missing deadlines and heck, we're releasing files that we claim are redacted that aren't redacted.
Now, it hasn't hurt the president and it doesn't really seem to have hurt anybody just yet, but we haven't gone through it all.
I don't know what they were able to do in terms of retracting some of that stuff, but this is bad.
These are mistakes that just cannot be made, okay?
Like, cannot be made.
And again, you want to know why Dan left?
I repeat.
He had a boss at the DOJ who was bad.
Bottom line incompetent.
And sources tell me it came down to Pam or Dan.
The president chose Pam.
I think it was a mistake.
Let's go to Dan explaining, in his words, why he left.
I mean, I gave up everything for this.
I mean, you know, my wife is struggling.
I'm not a victim.
I'm not Jim Comey.
It's fine.
I did this and I'm proud I did it.
But if you think we're there for tea and crumpets, Well, I mean, Cash is there all day.
We share it, our offices are linked.
He turns on the faucet, I hear it.
He's there at, he gets in at like 6 o'clock in the morning.
He doesn't leave till 7 at night.
You know, I'm in there at 7 30 in the morning.
You know, he uses the gym.
I work out in my apartment.
But I stare at these four walls all day in D.C., you know, by myself, divorced from my wife.
Not divorced, but I mean, separated, divorced.
And it's hard.
I mean, you know, we love each other, and it's hard to be apart.
But you're doing some great work.
You're straightening out of the FBI.
You're moving buildings.
There's a lot of change.
I just, one more thing.
So it was hard on him from a personal standpoint, of course.
His wife's in Florida, he's there in DC, and that's not right and that's not fair.
And by the way, he gave up a lot in terms of the financial health of his family, right?
In order to go and do this, but he did it because he's a patriot and he wanted to actually get stuff done.
But when you realize, yeah, I can't get stuff done because you don't have the proper team in place, and I'm talking management to get you know what done, well, then what are you doing?
Oh, you're just going to become her fall guy?
Because remember, that's sort of what went down.
Remember the initial release?
Like, she released some initial videos, and he was saying one thing, and then it turned out the video was another.
I mean, that was just a disaster, and he was getting blamed for it.
So, how much you want to bet that she would have been blaming him for this little number where, you know, stuff is redacted, but not really?
This is a pesky redaction.
Let's just get rid of that.
Wild.
This is what happens when you fire government.
Or it's what happens when you have Pam Bondi not minding the store.
Pam Bondi running this whole op when she's so far out over her skis.
I'm sorry, but you know what?
The Trump administration has to do better.
This is a really serious, serious job.
I don't care what someone looks like on camera, I don't care how well they communicate.
She hasn't even been on camera lately.
Right because she knows like there's, there's no getting around this one.
She told us she was going after Leticia.
Whatever happened to actually going after Leticia and Kathy Holkle?
Because they were in direct violation of the law, because they were allowing for, as well as the head of the DMV, because they were allowing for all of these people to illegally get these driver's licenses.
That kind of never got to second base I.
I have played the sound bite many times, I don't need to play it again.
But she was so proud of announcing in a press conference how she was going after Tish, James and Kathy Holkle.
And then well the, the Epstein rollout.
I mean to invite all the influencers in there.
Like you think they're that stupid that they're gonna fall for your nonsense?
No, They're not stupid.
And American voters are not stupid.
Trump voters are not stupid.
And by the way, the other side's not stupid.
The other side wouldn't have made these mistakes on statute of limitations.
You think that would have happened?
No way.
No way, Jose.
I mean, again, put it all over your office September 30th, 2025.
And if Eric is not doing his job in the U.S. Attorney's Office, in Virginia, then what do you do?
You start initiating a proceeding to find someone new for the job.
You do not wait until the president calls you out in a late night truth social post, which is exactly what he did about 10 days before the statute of limitations was coming up because somebody must have told him, hey, you know, the statute of limitations is approaching.
She was just going to blow right through it and say, whoopsie.
Oh, I missed that one.
Well, whoopsie, she did miss that one.
So 10 days before the statute of limitations is up.
What do they do?
They go in and appoint Lindsey Halligan.
I'm sorry, illegally, because the way the law works, whether you like it or not, the way the law works is that you actually had to have all the judges in the community sign on to that.
And then they would have been the one to have selected the replacement.
Now, if you had selected the replacement enough in advance, you wouldn't have been running up against the statute of limitations.
And instead, we got a big old dog and pony show.
Donald Trump had to find a lawyer himself.
to put in Lindsay, who was one of like an insurance lawyer.
Competence Meets Loyalty00:02:33
This is not even her expertise.
With 10 days to go, and she finally like somehow in the 11th hour makes the filing to get the indictment.
And then the whole thing gets thrown out because they're like, well, she didn't actually have the proper authority to be able to do this because she had never been appointed properly because, woohoo, Pammy, Pammy forgot.
And that's me being generous because if I were a real conspiracy theorist, I'd say there's something else going on.
Some people were trying to ignore this because maybe they didn't really want Comey to be tried.
What do you think?
I'm curious.
I'm watching your comments in real time.
I mean, I just, the time has come, ladies and gentlemen, the time has come.
You know what?
I realize the president puts loyalty above all.
But you need competence with loyalty.
You need people who have an eye on the calendar, who know what's coming next, who can manage an entire team.
You need somebody.
that's leading a group of U.S. attorneys out there doing their jobs and doing those jobs efficiently.
And you don't need to micromanage, but you need to be able to manage.
Now, if you talk to some people at the White House, sources have told me in, you know, sort of in their chance at trying to like explain what's really going wrong, they're like, well, you know, she doesn't have enough help.
She doesn't have all the U.S. attorneys that she needs.
So she can't really do the job because there aren't enough people.
Well, okay, Pam, fine.
Let's go with that for a second.
If that's really the issue, then why aren't you screaming that from the mountaintops?
I'd be tweeting every single day.
I need more people.
I can't get the Senate to confirm anyone.
So I don't have enough U.S. attorneys to do their job.
You need to actually play that out and you need to demand and you need to say, hey, this is what I want and this is what Americans deserve.
But she's not doing that.
She's really not doing anything.
She is, I'm sorry, a sorry excuse for the head of the DOJ.
And I say this, you know, she's been on my show over the years.
I've been on.
Other shows with her and I like her and you know she's lovely.
But here's the bottom line, guys, she's not smart enough and she's not together enough, and these are high stake situations.
So we need a change and we need it fast and we need it.
In 2026, you lost Dan Bongino because of her.
Now he's going to tell you it's his wife.
Misused Homeless Funds00:04:06
He's going to tell you, it's this, that and the other.
You know he's, he's a class act and he's not going to call her out the way, The way I will, right?
But I definitely don't have any friends to lose here.
I have no dog in this fight other than to keep insisting on one thing and one thing only, and that's that the country deserves more.
That the president deserves more.
That MACA voters deserve more.
And that what we went through, what we went through was unacceptable with James Comey.
What we went through with Hillary Clinton and the Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense was unacceptable.
What we went through with the 51X spooks and spies that decided.
To take it upon themselves to fire off a bunch of misinformation about Hunter Biden's laptop.
We don't need that ever happening again on either side, frankly.
So, Pam, buckle up.
I think changes are coming.
Merry Christmas to you.
You know, I will say there is one U.S. attorney, maybe a couple.
You've got the one out in Minnesota doing a good job.
I mean, they've uncovered, what, $9 billion?
I think I've even seen higher estimates at this point.
Well, here's another, another fraud story to tell you about in none other than California.
Gavin Newsom.
Oh, this is going to be a rocky 26 for you, buddy.
$2.3 billion sent to LA County over four years is completely unaccounted for.
Woo!
Just gone.
$2.3 billion unaccounted for.
What happened to it?
Oh, well, you know, according to the U.S. attorney there, apparently they were supposed to be spending it on the homeless, but it never actually made its way to the homeless.
This kind of reminds me of the autism program out in Minnesota that never actually went to help autistic kids.
It helped the families of autistic kids because they were getting payoffs.
Just tell us your kid's autistic.
We can file for all this paperwork, we'll cut you in on the action.
There you go.
Nine billion dollars later, the U.S. taxpayer is out of money, but I'm seeing some really high estimates that I want to bring you, according to a new state auditor report in California.
But first, this on the homeless stuff.
Bill, how long has this kind of fraud been going on?
I mean, the homeless issue in Southern California is a massive issue.
Taxpayers have forked over tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, to fix it, and people are stealing it?
It's unbelievable.
And, you know, it's probably been going on for a very long time, but unfortunately, no one's really looked at it until recently.
Before this position, I was in the state legislature, and we would ask a lot of questions about the billions of dollars being spent every year to solve homelessness.
And we can all see with our eyes and ears that it wasn't being solved, and the money wasn't going to the people who needed it most.
So, one of the first things I did after being appointed as the U.S. Attorney here in L.A. was to create the Homeless Fraud and Corruption Task Force.
And frankly, we were starting from the Bottom up, and we began brand new investigations with the IRS and the FBI.
It's already culminated in two separate indictments, and I can assure you that more will come.
In the two indictments you've announced thus far, in one case, somebody was taking this money that was meant to build homes for the homeless and spending it on things like tickets to Coachella concerts, jewelry, and a Beverly Hills mansion.
It's frankly outrageous.
And this goes to show when you hand out billions of dollars with little to no oversight, there are people out there that will take advantage.
And that's always been our suspicion is that there's been very little oversight or accountability to the individuals who receive this money.
Most of the money goes out to nonprofits or developers who claim they're going to use the money to build housing.
And what we saw in just these two investigations, that's not where the money went.
and it was used to pay one individual's American express bill.