Whoopi Goldberg's recent rant claiming 2025 US life is worse than Iran, citing skirt and hair restrictions, has sparked producer fury and viewer calls for her firing. While she critiques co-opted feminism, the segment contrasts this with Arnold Schwarzenegger's patriotic defense of America as a melting pot, urging immigrants to behave as guests and follow laws. The discussion highlights tensions between progressive rhetoric and traditional nationalism, concluding that such divisive commentary risks alienating audiences and complicating media narratives regarding immigration and national identity. [Automatically generated summary]
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Jumping the Shark00:06:07
Be Goldberg really just jumped the shark.
Okay, I'm using a happy days expression.
It was when Fonzie, like you knew that the episodes were basically coming to an end and the series was really ending when he did that move on the motorcycle, you know, jumping the shark.
So it's become a common expression as a result of that.
But this was really kind of unbelievable because she is trying to suggest that things are so bad here in the United States that, my gosh, she'd rather live over there in the Middle East where women have literally no rights and have to wear a burqa.
You saw the woman doing the news the other day, that situation.
And by the way.
Full-on burqa, right?
Because, well, I guess no man is allowed to look at your wife, whatever.
I mean, it gets me mad.
I remember taking an international relations class at Columbia years ago.
And actually, there was talk even back then, this was probably in 1999, of what Osama bin Laden, et cetera, were capable of doing.
And it was actually really alarming.
And I remember being quite nervous at the time because I did live in New York City.
It's neither here nor there, but one of the things that always has bothered me, and I say this, dare I say the word feminist?
I consider myself a feminist.
The left has completely taken over that term in a really manipulative, bad political sort of way because it means something different than I think it should.
It means that you care about equality for women and you value women.
And you know I do as a woman.
And by the way, as the mother of daughters.
So there are things that culturally, you know, they say, oh, it's just their way of life.
I'm sorry.
Like, if you don't value women, then I'm just never going to get there.
I'm just not.
But Whoopi sees it very differently, incredibly differently.
Let's go to the sound that is making the round.
People are just stunned by.
At this moment, ladies and gentlemen, people are now calling for Whoopi Goldberg to leave the show for good.
We'll see if she gets put on suspension or something.
It's happened before when Terry Moran actually wound up losing his job for some of his comments.
But this is just wacky stuff.
It's not even like she's taking aim at the president here.
She's kind of just often left field and acting really like incoherent.
Let's play the tape.
It is not even the same.
I couldn't step foot wearing this.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
That's not what you mean to say.
It is the same.
No, it's not.
The year 2025 in the United States is nothing like if I step foot wearing this young bitch.
I'm sorry.
I can't have my hair showing.
I can't wear a skirt.
I can't have my clothes.
I'm telling you, as age.
I literally said it was up to the Iranian people.
Yes, it is up to them.
And that's why I am saying that it is the same.
So that's why I said you weren't saying what I heard was not what you meant.
I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran.
Not if you're black.
Not for everybody.
Not if you're black.
Guys, don't go to Tehran.
Do not anyone at this table go to Tehran.
Let me tell you about being in this country.
This is the greatest country in the world.
But yeah, I know that.
I know that.
And we all know that.
But every day we are worried.
Do we have to be worried about our kids?
They are not big deals.
And I don't mean to say they're not big deals to you because that's not what I meant.
And they are not doing well there either.
They are not doing well in Iran.
They are not educated.
They cannot be property.
They cannot be states.
I'm talking about.
Nobody wants to diminish the very real problems we have in this country.
That's no one's intent.
But I think it's important we remember there are places much darker than this country and people who deserve rights to be treated.
Not everybody feels that way.
Not everybody feels that way.
Listen, I'm sorry.
You know, when you think about the fact that we got the vote in 1965.
Can you get.
Okay.
They don't have free and fair elections in Iran.
It's not even the same universe.
They can't go out of their house.
You know what?
There's no way I can make you understand.
Let me try that.
It's like try to reverse roles with a black person in this country, let's say, because I think that's what you're talking about.
Yes.
Just try to understand from their point of view, from that point of view, this country does not do them well, does not go to the highest level.
I completely acknowledge that.
And we shouldn't compare it to the least.
If you're talking about Iran, Iran, of course, is doing worse things, but relatively speaking, it feels bad.
Okay, but I think you know that Iran is significantly more powerful than the rest of the world.
I was in the middle of the day.
Okay, like, wow.
I mean, poor girl, Alyssa.
I mean, to sit there and have to deal with that.
I mean, you start to say, are all the wires connected in the head at that point?
Because her logic just isn't there.
I'm sorry.
Like, yeah, I mean, no one's diminishing.
Look, this country's not perfect.
I've said that many, many times.
And we still have our challenges.
And we have to do our best to address those issues.
We're not Iran, okay?
Like that's a whole other can of discrimination, et cetera.
And it's unbelievable to me, right?
That she's sitting there saying that.
It just shows so much ignorance in my estimation, which is why, you know what?
I'm wondering how much of this has to do with let's find a new storyline, let's find something else to talk about because the boss says we can't talk politics anymore.
So now they're getting into this really weird territory where I guess they have to have some kind of disagreement.
And maybe this is Whoopi's way of doing that.
Again, I'm trying to justify this because I can't imagine saying what she actually said and believing that.
Like Alyssa's saying, you know what?
Joy, you don't really believe this, right?
I mean, do you really think that living in the U.S. is worse than living in Iran today?
I mean, that is a wild, wild statement.
But they're desperate for ratings and they're trying to do something other than Trump.
The Great American Divide00:04:41
because the boss said, you know what?
The boss said, hey, you can't keep going negative on him.
In fact, I'm wondering if the boss is the one that brought on one Arnold Schwarzenegger this week because Arnold was there and he achieved the impossible.
He actually stunned these women into silence.
We've seen it, but you know what?
We're going to watch it again.
This is very good.
I love seeing sort of the expression.
On their faces.
Joy is like, but, And Arnold is like, no, here's the deal.
You're a guest in the country.
He starts out nice and then watch the turn.
You are an immigrant.
You're an immigrant in this country.
Did you have a visceral reaction to what they're doing, what ICE is doing when you see the videos of it?
Well, I tell you, you said that the immigrant, I'm so proud and happy that I was embraced.
By the American people like that.
I mean, imagine I came over here with the age of 21, with absolutely nothing, and then to create a career like that.
I mean, in no other country in the world could you do that.
Every single thing, if it's my bodybuilding career, if it's my acting career, becoming governor, the beautiful family that I've created, all of this is because of America.
That's true.
And so this is why I'm so, so happy to see firsthand.
That this is the greatest country in the world and it is the land of opportunity.
I know his name, but anyway.
Now watch.
And I think because I'm such a proud American and a proud immigrant that came to America, I was asked to do on July 4th.
Not here.
I'm going to fast forward them a little bit, okay?
Because I want to get to the good part.
You know me.
It's great.
So it's really a great, great celebration.
This is what this is all about to celebrate people becoming Americans and coming to America and all that.
I just think the world of the great kind of history that we have with immigrants in America.
But the key thing also is at the same time that we've got to do things legal.
That is the important thing, you know.
So you've got to do things legal.
And those people that are doing illegal things in America and that are foreigners, they are not smart.
Because when you come to America, you're a guest.
And you have to behave like a guest.
Like when I go to someone's house, and I'm a guest, then I will do everything I can, keep things clean and to make my bed and to do everything that is the right thing to do rather than committing a crime or being abusive or something like that.
So that doesn't really work in this country.
So I think the important thing is when you become an immigrant to think about, okay, I go to America because I want to use America for the great opportunities that America has in education, in jobs, creating a family, all of those kind of things.
Then you have to think about okay, if I get all of those things from America, then I have to give something back.
You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America and to pay back to America and to go and do something for your community for no money whatsoever.
Give something back to after school programs, Special Olympics, or whatever it is.
Make this country a better place.
Oh my gosh, I saw that.
You guys are commenting and you're like, oh, look at her.
She's trying to interrupt.
She's trying.
She's like, but, yeah, here's the deal.
And we talked about this yesterday.
I remember I couldn't remember the word.
I was like, salad or, and I kept saying soup.
I meant melting pot.
It was my own Joe Biden moment.
Anyway, it's the truth, right?
Are we a salad or are we a melting pot?
Our beauty, our strength as a nation is that we are a melting pot because we take the best of everything and we make it ours.
We make it uniquely American.
And so that means accepting that you are American.
Speaking English, adopting customs and cultures that are uniquely ours while bringing some of your specialness in, right?
Like it's all one.
But when you're the salad model and you got people trying to divide, divide, divide like one Jasmine Crockett, for goodness sakes, then what chance do we have, really, as a country?
I ask you, what chance do we have if everybody's out for themselves?
I mean, they're trying to do the divide with the gender.
They're trying to do the divide with the race.
They're trying to do the divide with the young versus the old.
And I'm sorry, at the end of the day, we are all American.
Unity Before Independence00:01:03
Remember that, okay?
We're coming up on 4th of July.
You know, I'm going to have to start singing again.
Did you see Donald Trump and the flagpoles?
He's putting a couple of flagpoles up at the White House.
He'd always said, you know, why don't we have flagpoles in the ground?
We're going to have the two biggest flagpoles.
So he's all about patriotism and recognizing the strength and greatness of this country.
And you come here, you want to be part of it, right?
Just as Arnold Schwarzenegger just said.
So we commend him.
We commend him for that.
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