Joe Rogan and The View hosts clash over media ratings, while the host critiques Democratic candidates AOC and Harris for lacking talent amid alleged "Operation Chokepoint 2.0" crypto crackdowns. The discussion highlights New York Senator Liz Krueger's proposal to secede with Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont to join Canada, framing it as a civil war precursor alongside state resistance to federal immigration enforcement. Finally, the segment condemns Cynthia Erivo's reaction to a fan-made "Wicked" poster for erasing her identity, arguing excessive sensitivity ignores historical appreciation of Pilgrims and traditional values. [Automatically generated summary]
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Losing Credibility on The View00:11:34
Oh, there's some good stuff going on, is there not?
We went from Walter Cronkite, basically, to this guy, Joe Rogan, who believes in dragons.
Joe Rogan believes in dragons.
Joe Rogan believes in dragons.
Okay, a little bit of a squabble there on The View vis a vis Joe and The View.
They are trying to come to terms with the fact that they are no longer relevant.
Joe Rogan firing back, and it's epic because he knows what we all know, and that's that they're soon all going to be out of jobs.
Plus, Are the Democrats really just gluttons for punishment?
I mean, they're talking about this woman in 2028.
We are about to enter a political period that will have consequences for the rest of our lives.
Oh my gosh.
So, yeah, they must be.
They must be if they're going to set themselves up like that.
I'll tell you, I'll tell you, this is a party very much lacking any kind of guidance, any kind of leadership, and it's going to hurt them big time.
New York State Senator.
Is even floating the idea of having New York withhold federal taxes and then the Empire State seceding to join Canada.
Wow!
Okay, so that's a new one.
Apparently, New York and some of those other Northeastern states hate Donald Trump so much and hate the rest of the country for voting for Donald Trump that they want some kind of succession plan.
We're going to get into all of that.
Welcome to the program, everyone.
We begin today on news that, gosh, Joe Rogan may be onto something.
He basically called Joy Behar out, admitting she's just a woman frantic about losing her job.
Something I've said all along here.
I think that this show very much is in jeopardy.
It's very much in jeopardy.
And it all started, well, the feud, I should say, between Joe and the ladies on the View sort of started when Joy Behar went for the jugular, suggesting that it didn't make any sense to her that anybody, anybody could possibly watch.
This Joe Rogan guy, I mean, when they are so clearly all over everything and so much the arbiters of truth on The View.
And he also thinks that dragons, like I guess like dinosaur type of animals, roamed the earth when people did.
So this is the type of really, really bad information that's going out there.
Well, in defense, there are.
Yeah.
Okay.
So she said, look, we are ABC.
We are ABC News.
We are governed by ABC News.
And whatever we say is truthful.
And they go on and on about him being Hitler, about him locking up anybody from the LGBT community.
I mean, all of it total, total, totally bogus.
I mean, let me just point out, by the way, your new Treasury Secretary of America happens to be married to another man and have children together.
They have a family.
Like, this is not a guy, Donald Trump, who's about to be locking up people because of their persuasions.
But that's not what they would have you.
Think they're on the view, and that's what's really kind of troubling.
People want us divided, and they aren't just here in this country.
There are foreign adversaries who are infiltrating our social media because it is prudent for us to stay that way.
So, when you see something that really pisses you off, you should triple check that one.
Yes.
But I think that that's why people like our show because they know that we are checked by ABC News.
We're checked by everybody.
Yeah, I mean, if we're wrong, we have the legal note here.
The human legal note.
We went from Walter Cronkite.
Basically, to this guy, Joe Rogan, who believes in dragons.
I checked it.
He believes in dragons.
Did you triple-turn that?
Yes, I did.
And he also thinks that dragons, like, I guess, like dinosaur-type animals, roamed the earth when people did.
So, this is the type of really, really bad information that's going out there.
Well, in defense, there are some really good news.
It's possible that Donald Trump did roam the earth when dinosaurs were here.
There are some really good news kind of influencer types, and I think it's great that they're getting information about global and current events in front of younger people.
Who maybe don't tune into traditional media.
But to Sarah's point, there has to be some fact checking and actually verification of the things that are shared because I spend a lot of time on Instagram Reels and I'm served up things that I get outraged about.
And then I realize, oh, that's not even true, but I have the sense to go and look it up.
But what I do worry about with this, like the blue sky versus X, because a lot of people I follow on X Twitter have now left to go to blue sky, I worry we're all going into our own echo chamber.
So we had this election that was tense.
And according to the view, the echo chamber is filled with people like Joe Rogan who, in their view, are completely factually.
Inaccurate, as opposed to the view which, just you know, is governed by ABC.
NEWS therefore, must be factually perfect.
Look, I got news for them.
They have been wrong over and over and over again and they're going to continue to be wrong.
And then they sit there and they make fun of people like Rogan, or you know podcasts like this one reminder subscribe share, like comment.
All of that stuff.
It's important.
It's important so that we do all have a voice together.
But here's Rogan firing back and he's like, you know, come on.
I was talking to this guy, Forrest Gallant.
Gallant put these ideas out there that, you know, there could have been dragons roaming the earth in various times.
And they went on to talk about how it is interesting that human beings always have had these visions of dragons, like going back thousands of years, right?
In mythology, et cetera, dragon-like depictions.
And so Joe went on to say that probably there was something, right?
Like something.
It doesn't necessarily mean there were dragons, but he wrote, quote, or said, quote, My position is that there were probably crocodiles or some big Komodo dragon or big lizard that did kill people.
And so people fought them with swords and obscenity.
And they came back with a story and the artist drew it.
And then he went on to totally roast her and point out the obvious, which is that she's worried about losing her job.
He said, this is the most important part.
This is right after she was saying, we are run by ABC News and therefore you should trust us.
He went on to say, but don't trust Joe Rogan, of course, because he believes in dragons.
So, quote, by saying we should trust them because they're double checked by ABC News and then making the stupidest effing statement, you didn't listen to what I said.
You didn't listen to what the wildlife biologist said.
And he continued that, you know, basically this is an example of really frantic behavior because, dun dun oh, she is concerned about losing her job.
She's concerned about the numbers that podcasts bring in.
Quote, when you're worried about losing your job and you're worried about podcasts taking over and who is the source of news and we said Donald Trump is Hitler, but half the country disagreed with us and this is crazy and Joe Rogan believes in drugs.
It's just frantic, he said.
He also made sure to wrap things up with saying, look, you know, he has nothing against her, nothing against her.
In fact, he'd give her a hug.
You know, and that, you know, she's just a really worried woman who's concerned about losing her job.
Worried about losing your job and you're worried about podcasts taking over and who's the source of news.
And we said Donald Trump was Hitler, but half the country disagreed with us and he won.
And this is great.
And Joe Rogan believes in dragons.
That's my favorite part at the end.
Joe Rogan believes in dragons.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
You know, look, The View is struggling.
They're struggling because their ratings are way down, just like the ratings are way down over MSNBC, which is why, of course, Comcast is selling that company.
And I do think that Disney is looking well, don't take my word for it.
Take Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney's word for it.
He said they are looking expansively at how to get rid of these properties, how to get rid of ABC News, how to get rid of ABC, how to get rid of The View, because this is not a business that you really want to be in, do you?
I mean, when you get a bunch of ladies going on on set like this every single day?
It's a cool situation.
You got to go to the States.
Because nobody can figure out what's being said here right now.
No, nobody can figure it out.
So, Joe Rogan admitting that the handwriting is on the wall for Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, and the rest of them.
They're concerned about losing their jobs.
I've said this for a while.
Piers Morgan now out with a new column.
We talked about this on Wednesday.
I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
I had a great Thanksgiving.
Look, I'm still into Thanksgiving.
I'm wearing my little pilgrim outfit.
That's how into Thanksgiving I am.
Anyway, Piers Morgan coming out saying the view is a pointless, irrelevant Trump loathing joke.
You know, and that it's because of all this hyperbolic, you know, I had problems with this word.
The apocalypse.
Just the other day, you guys were making fun of me.
It's somehow, you know, reading out of the the corner of my eye and looking at the camera becomes problematic, but it is all about the apocalypse coming, right?
And therefore, you know, this is why this show is so over the top that, you know, you go on and on about him being Hitler.
And after a while, people get numb to that.
And it wasn't how it was supposed to be.
And he's pointing out, Piers is, that, you know, when Barbara Walters created this thing, now deceased Barbara Walters, it was just supposed to be women with different.
opinions around the table discussing things and that's not what it is anymore because they hate who donald trump is they hate him so much that they have basically turned themselves into a caricature.
They kept saying, you know, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, kind of a chicken little kind of experience watching that show.
But let me read from Piers and from his column.
He said, quote, they all despise the man who is to be their president again.
And that tediously myopic one-sided act just won't play now that he's been given such a resounding endorsement from the American people.
He writes, I don't like cancel culture, but given that the host The view have, by their own admission, worked so hard to cancel Donald Trump, it's time that they canceled themselves, right?
Whoopi wants you to know she's going to wait and see.
She's going to back off saying anything bad against Donald Trump until he really does something spectacularly awful because apparently nobody believes her when she says the sky is falling.
So now she just needs to sit and wait.
Either that or the producers told her, hey, look, lady, you're on thin ice.
I think what we're all saying is we're going to sit and watch.
We're going to wait and see because we can't do anything else except.
I'm not going to wait on.
I mean, this guy is too much retribution.
He's too much retribution.
What are you going to do?
There's nothing to be done until you know what you're fighting.
It's pissing in the wind doesn't help.
You just get a wet face.
What I'm saying is, I have no false expectations that at 78, he's going to all of a sudden turn into a whole other human being.
And I'm not going to have a fire.
I spent weeks telling people that he was apocalyptic.
I'm not going to change now.
No, it's just that he's not treating every single thing like that.
I think that's when we lose credibility.
Well, here's the thing.
You lose credibility in many different ways.
If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then they're going to blow it back.
That's why I say we need to wait and see exactly what you're going to do.
Punishing Enemies with Financial Tools00:15:28
Yeah.
Can we not let Fox News off the hook, please?
I don't understand.
And all the fake news that's been going out there.
You know, one of the things that we need to do, and it's not to abolish the Department of Education.
As a former teacher, believe me, he's talking about doing that.
Yes.
You know, kids in, I brought this up before, I'm going to bring it up again.
In Finland, kids in nursery school are learning to discern between fake news and real news.
They should be teaching that in this country.
Yeah.
Teach children.
I just love that because somehow this woman really and truly thinks she is fake news and every, no, forgive me, she's real news.
We know she's fake news.
She is trying to say she's real news.
Everybody else out there, they're all fake.
She's the real deal.
She's the real McQuay because, you know, she's got ABC News check in her.
We went from Walter Cronkite basically to this guy Joe Rogan who believes in dragons.
Joe Rogan believes in dragons.
Okay, I could just watch that all day long.
I really, really, really could.
Look, these people are just too much, absolutely positively too much.
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Guys, this is amazing.
You know, I sometimes wonder if the left has just sort of a masochistic side to themselves because it's like they're gluttons for punishment.
They really screwed up.
If they would just listen to anybody, I mean, if they would just listen to Joe Rogan, if they would listen to my show now and then, they could actually get ahead of the game.
Not that I want to do them any favors, but gosh darn it, they really ought to pay attention to have brought a cross section of people.
Instead, they're now looking at none other than one AOC potentially.
Oh dear.
For a run at the presidency, you know, 2028.
We're about to enter a political period that will have consequences for the rest of our lives.
Yeah, yeah, seriously.
Okay, so this is according to a new article in The Hill.
They're looking at who could possibly be in the running, and believe it or not, they're talking about some people that, well, frankly, I just wouldn't be talking about.
AOC being one of them.
And Hillary's name is in the mix, and Kamala Harris, believe it or not, too.
But let's talk about AOC because this is perhaps the most disastrous, disastrous idea I've ever heard.
And yet they say, oh, she would be great because she, quote, can cut through the BS and she tells it like it is, according to some strategists.
Quote, she's somebody who can cut through the noise and doesn't talk like Washington.
She would be a magnet for young voters, they write.
I'm not so sure about that.
I mean, you look at what happened in Queens and she couldn't even really hang on to the district there.
I mean, overwhelmingly, we saw this real shift with voters in her district actually voting for none other than Donald Trump.
So ASC, I don't think it's going to work.
I don't think this stuff.
Is going to work.
We are about to enter a political period that will have consequences for the rest of our lives.
We cannot give up.
We now find ourselves in a time in history that has precedent, and we find ourselves, I believe, in a time where there are, let's say, peers in history of mass movements of people.
That mobilized to protect one another in times of fascism and authoritarianism.
And this is the era that we are poised to enter.
She sounds like The View.
Donald Trump has talked about turning the military on U.S. citizens that he deems his domestic political enemies.
Authoritarians and people that he affiliates closely with and strongmen abroad in regimes like that, it is not uncommon to jail political dissidents or legislative opponents.
This is the world that we very realistically may be entering.
Really, because I actually feel like it's a little bit the other way around.
I mean, think about all those cases, right?
Two federal cases.
Jack Smith, he just got sent packing.
Think about those cases.
Think about Letitia James trying to bankrupt Donald Trump in the city of New York.
The state attorney general, Letitia James, who, by the way, any day is going to get her case thrown out.
Think of what she did.
Think about what Fannie Willis was doing.
Think about the effort, if you ask me, to coordinate on seemingly a national scale, even though they won't admit that.
Between these states and whatever the feds wanted to see accomplished.
Alvin Bragg, his case disintegrated before our very eyes.
So it kind of seemed like there was an effort to go after their political enemy.
AOC, you and your crowd were going after Donald Trump.
And now we have learned, I'm going to play this on a little bit later in the show, that they were going after not just political enemies, obvious ones like Donald Trump, but people within the business community.
They were trying to debank them.
According to Mark Andreessen, who runs Andreessen Horowitz, major, major private equity tech firm, really, really smart guy investing in all kinds of new technologies.
He was just on Joe Rogan's show and he said this is what they were doing.
And then you get the Coinbase CEO, who runs a crypto company, coming out and confirming it.
And so now they want to get to the bottom of this.
And when I say, you know, this isn't not about, for example, some kind of retribution, when we try and figure out what was going on, we actually need to know.
We need to know because we can't allow this to happen again.
Because here's AOC saying that somehow we're going into a fascist state.
Listen.
We were in one.
I hate to break it to you, but that's exactly what was going down.
And I also hate to break it to the Democrats, but you know, if they were smart, they would look and see what folks in the middle.
Frankly, I consider myself in the middle.
They're the ones that are positioning me more and more and more right.
And I guess maybe I am more and more right, given that they're so bonkers that one can't actually agree with them on anything.
Listen, Queens is going right.
Queens is going right.
So I would not recommend AOC.
I mean, you guys do what you want.
I think it's terrific.
If you go with her in 28, I also think it's terrific if you want to go with Kamala Harris again.
The Democrats are literally talking about nominating Kamala Harris.
Well, the Democrats maybe, or maybe it's just all those people around Kamala Harris, all of her handlers that are being instructed allegedly to say, hey, float her name for governor of California, float her name as the contender in 28, because guess what?
This woman needs to make money.
She needs the mullah and she needs it to keep on coming in.
So, how's she going to do that?
Other than to shake down all her favorite celebrities and favorite rich people and then average folks too.
I mean, don't forget, she's very proud that she raised $1.4 billion, most ever raised in a campaign.
Nothing to show for it, of course.
But she gets these little handlers to go on MSNBC, that dreadful network, and keep talking her book.
The most sense.
What's interesting is Harris is more popular now than she was before she ran for president.
That's not something that typically happens.
Um, and when you talk to Democrats, not many of them, um, are blaming her for the loss, right?
They know that it was 170, 107 days and they nitpick about some of the other things, but it wasn't her as a candidate, um, that they weren't impressed by.
And so when you look at 2028 and the names that are kind of bounced around, she has the biggest name ID of any of them for obvious reasons.
California governor also on the table.
She's wanted that job for a long time.
It would be the most power that she's had in elected office.
But there is the sense around some of her allies and aides that it might be a step back, right?
Publicly, right?
Her as vice president, almost being president, and then going back to be governor of a state.
And that's one of the things that they're tussling with right now.
Oh my gosh.
Yes, she just has so many options.
Everybody wants Kamala.
They're talking about her for 28, they're talking about her as governor of California.
But gosh darn it, that would be a step down for this lady.
Listen, this woman is not talented.
She's never been able to really legitimately win anything.
She couldn't even get to first base as a candidate, as president.
Remember 2020?
She went up one side and down the other with Joe Biden trying to paint him as a racist.
He crazily enough chose her anyway.
If I were him, I would have been very careful about choosing her to be my VP.
And by the way, I'm right on that.
Am I not?
Look at what she did ultimately.
I mean, you know, granted, he couldn't run, but could they have not put somebody better in?
Could they not have primaried him?
I said here as much.
Over and over again.
You guys can't run Joe.
Are you crazy?
You're really gonna run Joe.
And so then they rank Kamala which which means they are crazy right like this was just dumb, and there was no internal polling all along that ever showed she had a chance in h-e-l-l.
Look at the, the big article in the NEW YORK POST, no cam do, no can do, no cam do.
In other words, Harris never had any shot of winning.
All of the internal polling showed that, which just makes you wonder what was the NBC NEWS poll about?
What was the ABC news Pull about, or the CBS NEWS pull about, or the NEW YORK Times pull about?
That showed it was close.
They didn't show it was necessarily close.
They didn't show her winning.
They saw Donald Trump winning from the very beginning, and yet she went out and raised all kinds of money anyway, right?
$1.4 billion worth.
And she thinks that she can do it again?
I just have to remind you don't you ever let anybody take your power from you.
You have the same power that you did before November 5th.
And you have the same purpose that you did.
And you have the same ability to engage and inspire.
So don't ever let anybody or any circumstance take your power from you.
So I'm not sure who let her do that, right?
Like, where was the lighting expert?
Where was the wardrobe expert?
Where was that?
Let's make sure that you're coherent and that you're with it and you can talk instead of, you know, well.
The rumor online is that maybe she was three sheets to the wind.
I'm not suggesting that, but certainly this was not the best Kamala Harris we have seen.
It was very funny.
I saw some meme that was going around that had a nice pretty picture of her as her official campaign picture, and then it showed a picture of her like that.
And it was like Kamala in the regular polls, Kamala in the betting markets, right?
Because the betting markets always knew that she really didn't have a shot.
And it was like two different versions of Kamala one being her looking like that, which is pretty sad and forlorn and not necessarily the great image.
That you want to convey right after the campaign if you're trying to rally the troops.
But here she is bragging that she raised all that money.
I mean, I wouldn't be bragging about this because you squandered it and now you're out there trying to raise more money to still pay your debts.
You still have vendors that you need to pay from all those fancy concerts with all those fancy, fancy celebrities that you paid to like you.
In the time it was personal for you and you gave all that you could to support our campaign.
Because of your efforts, get this, we raised an historic $1.4 billion, almost $1.5 billion, from grassroots supporters alone, the most in presidential campaign history.
Nearly 8 million donors contributed an average donation of about $56 to fuel our people powered campaign.
And understand that the work that we did included the work that so many of you here did.
Which is to talk to first time voters.
Many of you are first time voters.
And to talk about.
I mean, I'm sorry, but guys, if this is who you're going to put up in 28, then hey, game on.
You know what?
You've already lost.
Like, you just don't even care anymore.
And there are some Democrat donors that are saying, wait a second.
Like, we need to gut check this.
There's a guy that went on to Fox the other day, and he's like, no, no, no, no.
She's not going to run.
She's not going to run because she sucks, right?
Like, she is a terrible candidate.
Here's a guy actually telling the truth about the way things get.
The president has been instructing advisors and allies to keep her options open, whether for a possible 2028 presidential run or even to run as governor in the state of California in two years, as Harris has repeated in phone calls I am staying in the fight.
Your reaction to that?
Well, my reaction is you know, she thinks she's Obama.
She goes to Hawaii because Obama goes to Hawaii.
She started talking like Obama, imitating Obama.
She is not Barack Obama.
She has no talent.
She can never run for president again.
She ran once and got zero delegates, she got 8% of California.
I begged them not to put her up.
She was going to be tethered to Biden no matter what.
That was a zero sum game for her.
But she thought that all these votes were for her.
They were not.
The votes that she got were people voting against Trump.
And the votes that Trump got were the people voting for Trump.
What the Harris campaign should have done, instead of avoiding Joe Rogan and podcasts, it turns out that Barron Trump.
Who looks like a runway model was telling his father, You need to go on podcasts.
You need to go on Joe Rogan.
You know, he was three hours late to a rally because he was doing Joe Rogan because that was so important.
So, Barron Trump is a lot smarter than everybody in the Harris.
They said they didn't go on Joe Rogan.
The progressives around her, you heard what Carmel said, the progressives didn't want to go on Joe Rogan.
Look, if I'm running, I'm going on Joe Rogan.
Debunking the Joe Rogan Myth00:04:13
I'm living on Fox.
That's how you change minds.
They played hide the ball.
They lost badly.
She should go away and never, ever come back.
She spent almost $2 billion.
They're raising money this week to pay off the debt.
If you can't run your campaign, you damn sure can't run the country.
And that guy's a Democrat.
Okay, he's a Democrat, but he gets it.
If you can't run your campaign, you definitely can't run the country.
And by the way, Why wouldn't you play for every single vote you could?
This is what Donald Trump did so brilliantly.
And yes, Barron Trump had a hand in that because he got it.
He's like, wait a second.
The kids are listening to the podcast.
It's like my kids.
I kid you not.
They're like, they felt kind of bad for me, I guess, back in the day when I was on Fox.
And when I showed up on YouTube, they're like, finally, finally, you made it, mom.
I mean, you're making something of yourself now.
I mean, to me, it was sort of inverted, right?
Because I grew up in a day when we would sit down as a family and watch the CBS Evening News, or we actually used to watch ABC's World News.
Tonight you had NBC Nightly NEWS and to me that was like a big deal and and I did all that.
And then I went to cable and I did all that and the kids are still like, you know, you're nowhere until you're on YouTube.
Now you're something.
But this is the thing.
Kids get that right.
So Barron Trump understood that.
And they had yet all these little prickly ornery 23 year olds that maybe maybe, sort of got the power of new media but also didn't like that.
New media represented often a different viewpoint, And so, yeah, you got James Carville, the Raging Cajun, as they like to call him, down there in Louisiana, saying these kids are a bunch of idiots, just idiots for not having her do what obviously she should have done.
Not only am I not interested in your opinion, I'm not even going to call you by your name.
You're 23 years old.
I don't really give a what you think.
And let me tell you another huge error, huge error to make, is when people said campaigns need to reflect progressive values.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
If I were running a 2028 campaign and I had some little snot-nosed 23-year-old saying, I'm going to resign if you don't do this, not only would I fire that mother on the spot, I would find out who hired them and fire that person on the spot.
I'm really not interested in your uninformed, stupid, jacked opinion.
Democrats are not happy with the pen.
So you know what?
They needed that guy.
They needed that guy helping Kamala along the way.
Instead, they had a bunch of prim and proper folks, like David Plough, for example, who had been an advisor to Obama.
And then they bring him in, along with Axelrod, to be advisors to Kamala Harris.
And these people just advised her into oblivion.
All right.
So there's no future.
There is no future for Kamala Harris.
There is no future for AOC.
And there's no future for Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton also making that list, believe it or not.
I mean, these people are just off in la-la land because there's no chance of any of these people.
They're going to have to really go back to basics.
I mean, I almost feel like this party's done.
Maybe they'll wind up running Liz Cheney or something because, you know, Donald Trump has taken over the entire space that the blue-collar Democrats, so to speak, Used to occupy.
I mean, he's out there fighting for American workers like they just simply don't know how to.
They've lost their way massively.
And I think it's pretty great.
I really do.
I mean, I'm so done with all of them.
And you listen to, for example, the likes of AOC suggesting that somehow there's fascism now, that we are going into a different kind of error.
I would just say, thank God we're coming out of whatever era we were in because you want to talk about authoritarian.
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I mean, what do you think all this was?
What do you think it was when you had the likes of so many people getting effectively debanked?
This is what it's called.
You know, I've done a lot of reporting on this because I actually did a couple of documentaries back in the day on the underground marijuana industry and the challenges that they had from the banking front to try and deal with the reality, which was that you were sort of in violation of federal law.
And so even if your state was sanctioning this stuff, you still couldn't get a bank account.
It was really problematic.
Well, this apparently went a lot further.
So this is according, this is an article that came out in, I think it's a crypto, one of the crypto websites.
And they're talking about something that happened on the Joe Rogan show, which was this discussion about people getting debanked.
Now, it had happened previously, right, with some of these companies that were in violation of federal law, but maybe okay with state law.
And they had run into certain challenges.
But then it became even more problematic in the Biden administration.
Because the thought is that anybody who was a crypto company, anybody who was on the wrong side of things, or even a political enemy, according to Mark Andreessen, very, very, very famous tech investor, you were suddenly in jeopardy.
And don't forget, I mean, they were closing bank accounts.
Remember how angry JPMorgan Chase's CEO, Jamie Dimon, was getting about this?
He's like, this is not right.
Like, suddenly, you know, just because you shop at Dick's Sporting Goods, you know, you're going to get a second look from the feds.
Pretty scary stuff.
And so this wound up becoming a big issue over the last couple of days because Elon Musk tweeted Did you know that 30 tech founders were secretly debanked?
And then the guy who runs Coinbase, major crypto company, Brian Armstrong, came out and said he confirmed this was true.
And he wrote It was one of the most unethical and un American things that happened in the Biden administration.
And my guess is we'll find Elizabeth Warren's fingerprints all over it.
Biden himself, he writes, was probably unaware.
We're still collecting documents via FOIA requests.
So hopefully the full story emerges of who was involved and whether they broke any laws.
Warren and Gensler tried to unsuccessfully kill our entire industry.
And it was a major factor in the Dems losing the election.
The Democrat Party should realize Warren is a liability and further distancing themselves if they want to have any hope of rebuilding is the right thing to do.
So again, this all coming about because Andreessen went on to Joe Rogan's show and said, yeah, the tech community is having a big problem because they're out there.
Banking, debanking anybody whom they consider a threat, whether it be in the tech community or even their political enemies.
Unbelievable stuff.
100%.
And this is called Operation Chokepoint 1.0 was 15 years ago against the pot and the guns.
Chokepoint 2.0 is primarily against their political enemies and then to their disfavored tech startups.
And it's hit the tech world.
Like we've had like 30 founders debanked in the last four years.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's been a big recurring pattern.
30.
This is one of the reasons why we ended up.
Supporting Trump.
It's like we just can't live in this world.
We can't live in a world where somebody starts a company that's a completely legal thing and then they literally get sanctioned and embargoed by the United States government through a completely unaccountable, by the way, no due process.
None of this is written down.
There's no rules.
There's no court.
There's no decision process.
There's no appeal.
Who do you appeal to?
Right?
Like, who do you go to to get your bank account back?
That's scary.
Okay, that's really scary.
I think this most important story that nobody's talking about is really, really important.
I mean, what was going on?
They decide you're a political enemy?
They decide you're an enemy because you're experimenting with technology that maybe they don't like?
And suddenly you're SOL?
You wonder why.
You wonder why the tech community just came out in spades for Donald Trump.
This is a big part of it because they're out there, all these lefties screaming, Fascism, Fascism, Fascism.
Guess what's Fascism?
When you're shutting down one's right to speech, when you're shutting down one's right to make a living, when you're shutting down one's ability to run a business by not allowing them to have a bank account because they don't represent the point of view that you want, that's a problem.
So I want to see all those FOIA requests, and I hope this is one big grand lawsuit.
When they talk about retribution, This is the kind of thing.
It's not retribution.
It is what's fair.
We need as Americans to know just exactly what went down.
When you're trying to punish your political enemies with financial tools, that's a problem.
All right?
That's a really, really, really big problem.
All while simultaneously going on about DEI and this and that.
I'll tell you, DEI, I'm sorry.
It's over, right?
You look at what Walmart did.
It's over.
You look at what Boeing did.
It's over.
For change, we actually just need to worry about making money as a nation.
That's what companies need to worry about how they make money.
And they don't need Elizabeth Warren and others in the way.
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And I'll tell you, there's a lot of people out there that are just so resentful, so resentful that Donald Trump won.
That believe it or not, you get some lawmaker, state lawmaker in the state of New York, actually suggesting this is precious here, this is just golden, that they secede.
That they secede, they're going to join Canada.
They're going to become the southeastern wing of Canada.
They want Connecticut to join them.
They got a few other states they're looking at.
Listen to this story, guys.
One New York state senator is even floating the idea of having New York withhold federal taxes and then the Empire State seceding to join Canada.
Instead of us all trying to illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's lots of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province, a new province of Canada.
New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont would combine and be a great new province as the Southeast Province of Canada.
Basically, everybody in these states are progressive Democrats who would fit in pretty well with the political philosophy of at least most of the Canadian elected officials.
This woman's name is State Senator Liz Krueger.
You know what?
I'm like, go for it.
You guys do that.
I mean, the only challenge there is that we do kind of need Wall Street because it is a big generator, right, of federal revenue.
But think about what's been happening.
Everybody's moved to Florida or Texas.
They're starting a Texas stock exchange.
Maybe we just say, forget about it.
You guys do you.
You go join Canada.
Okay, fine.
We don't need you.
You tax the hell out of everyone anyway.
And the rest of us, unfortunately, I happen to live in one of those Northeast states.
So I guess my real estate value would go down and I'd have to move to Florida or Texas like everyone else.
I mean, Honestly, I think we're setting ourselves up for a kind of civil war, if you would.
And these politicians like Letitia James, who's about any day to have her court case kicked out of the Court of Appeals, it's going to be thrown back because she's got no there, there.
She's part of the danger.
She's part of the system that's trying to divide us and put us on the edge of some kind of civil war.
I mean, listen, if you're in a scenario where it's the feds versus the state, I'm telling you, every single time the feds are going to win out, here's Letitia.
in her full insane moment, somehow insisting that she's going to double down on this case she's got, trying to bankrupt Donald Trump.
This is a state case.
Last week, he perfected his appeal.
And we are confident that in the state of New York, that we will recover over $450 million for the residents of the great state of New York.
He's engaged in name calling.
But unfortunately, the reality is that I will not dignify his comments.
And two, I will not amplify his racism and or sexism.
We've got to focus on issues.
Americans are struggling right now.
Inflation has gone down again under the leadership of President Biden.
Uh, right now, uh, we are experiencing one of the lowest unemployment rates in history.
And it's really critically important that the number of illegal border crossings has come to one of the lowest points, again, because of pathways that President Biden and Vice President Harris have.
Unbelievable.
Okay.
So you get her, you get Maure Healy, who's the governor of Massachusetts, saying she's not going to allow federal law enforcement to come in and deport anyone.
You get the mayor of Denver saying, I'm not going to allow anybody.
I'm going to stand in the way of this.
Hey, you stand in the way of this?
Buddy, I got news for you.
You're going to lose that battle.
Tom Homan's already promised to put you in jail, okay?
Tom Homan, who's running the border and running this whole operation, because the feds are going to have the upper hand, shall we say.
But you do what you want.
Maybe you just secede like the state senator, Senator Kruger out of New York wants to do.
Maybe you can find a couple states to join you.
I'll tell you, the rest of us, we're there for the long run.
We want America to succeed.
We want to keep growing.
And let me tell you, we're on the verge of some really, really great stuff.
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Really great stuff.
I mean that.
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Anyone going to go to the movies?
I saw this one actually last weekend Wicked.
Wicked.
And I remember seeing the play years ago.
It's a really good show.
For the most part, I mean, it's a little bit woke, but isn't everything these days.
So once you get beyond that, and you can think about it maybe in different ways.
But what I was struck with myself was how loud it was.
I think I wasn't the only one.
The decimal levels were like way out of control.
The audio was just a mess.
I think the theater doesn't really know how to manage a musical.
Even the director was saying, hey, you know, maybe like listen to yourself.
I mean, is he trying to actually tell people not to go to the theater?
I don't know.
But anyway, this has become kind of a big, iconic movie.
A lot of people are going to see.
It's already making a ton of money.
Maybe it'll make some more.
Hopefully, they can get the audio levels right.
But I was struck by this story.
So, the woman who's one of the lead characters, she plays the Wicked Witch of the West.
Her name is Cynthia Arrivo.
I'd actually never heard of her before, ever, ever, ever.
This was the first time.
Ariana Grande is also starring in it.
Ariana does actually a really lovely, lovely job.
Apparently, she's had no formal voice training, but she's like a perfect little color tour soprano.
I could have seen her sing Queen of the Night, that very, very high, pure voice.
She's great in it.
This other woman, Plays the Wicked Witch, and I, like I said, never really heard of her.
And she's very woke, apparently.
I mean, as I sort of depicted in the short that I did the other day.
Watch.
This is sort of cringe.
And I mean, I like the song, but this is cringe.
I've seen this week people are taking the lyrics of Defying Gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that.
I didn't know that that was happening.
I've seen it, yeah.
That's really powerful.
Really?
That's why I wanted to.
Really?
I didn't know that was happening.
Some people like the lyrics to my song.
Wow.
Okay.
So it's not really her song, but she's like, oh my gosh, you know, they were like fawning over my lyrics and she's all into it.
I'm going to go back to this, though.
So apparently she's really, really upset about this poster that came out because somebody made a poster and they tried to actually mimic the poster of yesteryear.
So this show came out, I don't know, like I want to say like a decade and a half or so ago, maybe two decades ago.
And there was this very famous poster that showed the good witch, Glinda, with the bad witch, the wicked witch to the West.
And you can see if you're looking at the show online, if you're listening, thank you very much on Apple.
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You can also watch the show live on YouTube every day.
But anyway, you can see that the eyes are gone.
So she got really mad because somebody made this image.
And she's like, how dare you?
How dare you?
In fact, she posted about it.
None of this is funny.
None of this is cute.
It degrades me.
It degrades us.
The original poster is an illustration.
I am a real life human being who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer, because without words, we communicate with our eyes.
Our poster is a homage, not an imitation to edit my face and hide my eyes to erase me.
And that is just deeply hurtful.
Let's put this right here to remind you and cleanse your palate.
And I'm like, what?
Like, I think.
The guy was just like, or gal, whoever made this was just like a fan, right, of the show, liked the old musical and was just trying to recreate the poster using the two new actors, actresses that were in this.
And then somehow there's all this blowback from this woman that, again, none of us had heard of before, Cynthia and Vernon.
She's just absolutely furious about this.
It's like, lady, chill.
Okay, chill.
Maybe, maybe this person just really was actually trying to compliment you and try and recreate the old poster.
I was like, what?
And then, you know, one of our friends over at Daily Wire, Michael Knowles, he also was talking about this, and I got a kick out of it.
So I just want to play you a clip.
A woman named Cynthia Arrivo, about whom I knew nothing until the afternoon yesterday.
Cynthia Arrivo is an actress, I'm told, and she is playing the Wicked Witch in Wicked.
Wicked, Broadway musical that came out about 20 years ago.
I saw it when it came to Broadway.
I was growing up in New York.
You know, it was a big hit on Broadway.
Now they made a movie about it, and this woman is the Wicked Witch.
So a fan of the show, and maybe a fan of Cynthia Arrivo.
Posted a version of the poster where Cynthia Arrivo's eyes are darkened out in a shadow.
Cynthia Arrivo goes on this tear.
Cynthia Arrivo posts on Instagram or TikTok.
This is the wildest, most offensive thing I've seen, equal to that awful AI of us fighting, equal to people posing the question, is your blank green?
Is your what green?
What was that?
None of this is funny.
None of this is cute.
It degrades me.
It degrades us.
I'm a real life human being who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer, because without words we communicate with our eyes.
Our poster is an homage, not an imitation.
To edit my face and hide my eyes is to erase me.
That is just deeply hurtful.
Whoa, man.
Is that what was going on?
This fan of Wicked and Cynthia Revo was trying to erase this actor.
Oh, no.
The person just made the new poster look more like the original poster because the original poster, her eyes were shadowed out by the brim of the hat, actually.
You see how crazy this is?
I mean, it's absolutely crazy.
Like, these people are just so angry, and the wokeism has gone too far.
And so, part of what we just saw happen in America was the backlash against that.
I mean, nobody wants to be canceled.
Like, they've been canceling everyone.
Nobody wants all of this to be taken out of context.
Like, clearly, that little poster thing was taken out of context.
Suddenly, Cynthia, whatever her name is, thinks that people are trying to dishonor her.
That actually isn't the case.
Like, somebody was just actually trying to do a nice thing.
And it turns into a bad thing.
So they've just twisted everybody in knots.
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And people have had it.
And they want a chance to go back to normalcy, which is what this election helped represent.
You know, we ought to be able to celebrate Thanksgiving and think about the roots, the great roots of our country, rather than being ashamed, ashamed that pilgrims came here.
All right.
So, you know, homage to the pilgrims and my pilgrim outfit today.
You know, we wouldn't be here without them.
And you have to kind of try and look at things, I think, through the lens of history, understanding what was important in that time.
So before you write off entire groups like the Pilgrims, before you write off entire groups like, you know, white men in general or any Trump supporter, any MAGA supporter, think about what you're really doing there and think about what this election is about.
It is so good to have you all here.
Leslie, good to see you.
Leslie writes, the woke wakes up angry and goes to sleep angry, right?
I mean, I think that's it.
And that's part of the problem.
Like, let's have a little more optimism.
Let's be a little bit happier.
Let's not have the drag of the Kamala Harris's and the AOC's and the Cynthia, whatever names are on us.
Let's actually celebrate what we have.
Let's be thankful.
Let's be grateful.
And let's move towards the future, which is going to be bigger and better than ever before.
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