The Trish Regan Show - Media FREAKS! It's WAR on Elon Musk Amid MSNBC Acquisition Talk
Aired: 2024-11-25
Duration: 48:27


=== Musk Buys MSNBC (14:23) ===

[00:00:04]  Bit of news today, shall we say?
[00:00:06]  I think I'm going to have to hand this off.
[00:00:10]  Yeah.
[00:00:12]  Sorry.
[00:00:13]  That doesn't frustrate me.
[00:00:14]  We'll see you again tomorrow.
[00:00:15]  No.
[00:00:16]  Oh, boy.
[00:00:19]  Rachel Maddow not actually reacting to the news of Elon Musk possibly buying MSNBC, but probably that's how she would react.
[00:00:26]  We'll talk about that.
[00:00:27]  Plus, some pretty significant news on the Donald Trump legal front.
[00:00:34]  Jack Smith dropping his case.
[00:00:36]  Look at this.
[00:00:36]  NBC had to break into programming.
[00:00:38]  This is an NBC News special report.
[00:00:44]  Here's Lester Holt.
[00:00:46]  Good day.
[00:00:46]  We're coming on the air with breaking news about President elect Donald Trump.
[00:00:50]  The Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith just filed a motion to dismiss the federal criminal case against the president elect over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
[00:01:03]  The news comes after NBC News learned the Justice Department had been planning to wind down its federal cases.
[00:01:10]  Against Mr. Trump.
[00:01:12]  It also comes as NBC News learn that Smith and his team plan to resign before Mr. Trump returns to the White House.
[00:01:20]  Never a dull moment.
[00:01:21]  You get Donald Trump heading back to the White House, and things are getting kind of exciting.
[00:01:27]  So exciting that some people may have to be moving around, right?
[00:01:31]  Musical terrorists.
[00:01:32]  We could all be fired a year from now.
[00:01:33]  We'll pay when this happens.
[00:01:34]  You never know what's going to happen.
[00:01:36]  Yeah.
[00:01:37]  Elon is looking at buying MSNBC.
[00:01:39]  We're going to get into all of that today, plus the Jack Smith news, plus ABC News.
[00:01:44]  Possibly up for sale too.
[00:01:46]  Could Elon go for that one too?
[00:01:48]  Welcome to the program, everyone.
[00:01:49]  I am Trish Regan.
[00:01:49]  I hope you had a terrific weekend.
[00:01:51]  I certainly did.
[00:01:52]  I went to see Wicked.
[00:01:54]  I took one of the kids.
[00:01:56]  He leaned over in the middle of the movie and he's like, Mom, is this like woke?
[00:02:00]  I'd say, I'd say.
[00:02:02]  Plus, plus, it was way too noisy.
[00:02:04]  I'll tell you, these movie theaters do not know how to actually produce a musical in terms of the audio.
[00:02:09]  I think I spent most of the movie.
[00:02:11]  I'm like, is it my age?
[00:02:12]  No, no, no.
[00:02:12]  Everybody in the movie theater was like this.
[00:02:14]  I had my hands over my ears for much of it.
[00:02:18]  Anyway, that's wicked.
[00:02:20]  But somebody who has gotten the label wicked, the wicked witch, from time to time, and a few other things would be one, Rachel Maddow.
[00:02:27]  And there's a meme going around online about Elon Musk possibly buying MSNBC.
[00:02:34]  And he actually tweeted something rather crude, a graphic.
[00:02:37]  And so, sure enough, another meme comes out, and it's Rachel Maddow.
[00:02:42]  This is from like another point in time where she was reacting to some sadness about migrants, et cetera.
[00:02:49]  But they're having some fun with it.
[00:02:50]  So check out the lower third.
[00:02:52]  It's AI.
[00:02:52]  They created it.
[00:02:53]  They threw in this graphic.
[00:02:55]  And I left the Elon questionable graphic out.
[00:02:58]  But you'll see what I'm talking about.
[00:02:59]  Take a look.
[00:03:06]  Ooh, so she's starting to cry.
[00:03:12]  Yep, she's sniffling.
[00:03:13]  She's having a hard time.
[00:03:15]  And of course, you can see they put on the bottom Elon Musk posts dangerous meme.
[00:03:19]  And then you see her crying, and she doesn't quite know what to do about it all.
[00:03:23]  But you know what?
[00:03:23]  Like, that could happen, right?
[00:03:25]  Like, that's the funny thing.
[00:03:26]  For two seconds, you see that thing on Twitter, and you're like, wait a second.
[00:03:28]  Is this real?
[00:03:29]  Completely see her crying.
[00:03:31]  I'm sure she was crying all weekend.
[00:03:32]  I'm sure Joe and Mika were crying all weekend at the idea that Elon Musk could possibly own their company.
[00:03:39]  I have some intel on that and behind the scenes what's going on, but think about it.
[00:03:43]  I mean, entirely plausible.
[00:03:45]  We've seen videos like this.
[00:03:46]  People are rightfully alarmed, they have a reason to be alarmed.
[00:03:50]  You got to go to Titus now.
[00:03:51]  They're alarmed to run The View as well because Elon Musk might just actually buy one of these companies.
[00:03:59]  MSNBC is getting spun off, spun off in what's called.
[00:04:03]  Spinco, this Spinco entity that probably won't actually show up and be traded for about another year.
[00:04:11]  And there's some tax advantages to doing this, which is why, well, and other advantages, right?
[00:04:16]  Because Comcast has realized it really doesn't want to be with these cable players anymore.
[00:04:21]  It doesn't like this.
[00:04:22]  It doesn't like having to deal with the Joe and Mika's and the Joy Reads of the world and the Rachel Maddow's once a week.
[00:04:28]  And so it's saying, okay, is it really worth it?
[00:04:30]  No, it's not.
[00:04:30]  You know, this stuff doesn't make that much money.
[00:04:32]  Take a look at the ratings.
[00:04:33]  They're down 51%.
[00:04:33]  Why don't we say, see you later?
[00:04:36]  They sever the cord.
[00:04:38]  They split off the company in quote unquote Spinco, by which you get a few cable properties.
[00:04:43]  You get MSNBC, you get CNBC, you get Oxygen, Sci Fi.
[00:04:46]  They all get rolled up together.
[00:04:47]  E is in there.
[00:04:48]  Bravo, they're keeping.
[00:04:51]  The streaming network, Peacock, they're keeping.
[00:04:54]  And the broadcast network, they're keeping.
[00:04:56]  But everything else is going into this so called Spinco.
[00:05:00]  And then they don't have to worry about it anymore.
[00:05:02]  Well, could Elon materialize and just buy that?
[00:05:06]  Theoretically, could and we'll dig into that a little bit more.
[00:05:09]  I mean, if the offer was good enough, he certainly did it with Twitter, right?
[00:05:12]  They had to entertain the idea.
[00:05:13]  It's not like, as a board, you can say, Well, forget about it, you're Elon Musk, we don't want to have anything to do with you.
[00:05:18]  So of course this is you Torturing the people over at MSNBC.
[00:05:23]  He's having the best time doing it.
[00:05:25]  John Jr. tweeting out on Friday, and we talked about this how Comcast is putting MSNBC up for sale.
[00:05:31]  And he said, Hey, Elon, I have a really funny idea.
[00:05:34]  And then Elon responded with, Hey, how much is it?
[00:05:37]  Which brought everybody back to this time when he did the same thing with Twitter.
[00:05:41]  And he said, How much is it when someone said, Hey, you should buy it?
[00:05:44]  And then he kept the memes going like all weekend long.
[00:05:47]  And then at one point, he's like, You know, he tweeted something out that was kind of inappropriate.
[00:05:52]  And he said, sometimes, you know, the option that basically could happen is the one that would be the most funny.
[00:05:59]  In other words, wouldn't it be really, really funny?
[00:06:02]  Everybody thinks so.
[00:06:03]  Check out some of the other memes that made the rounds.
[00:06:05]  There he is, carrying out the computers.
[00:06:07]  And here he is renaming the network to XNBC.
[00:06:11]  So could it happen?
[00:06:14]  Would it happen?
[00:06:16]  I'll tell you this he certainly wants a free media.
[00:06:18]  He believes in freedom of the press, he believes in freedom of speech.
[00:06:23]  He said as much over and over again.
[00:06:26]  I have to say, if civilization is not strong, if civilization doesn't grow, then nothing else matters.
[00:06:34]  Profits don't matter if civilization collapses.
[00:06:38]  There's no profits.
[00:06:39]  There's no, you know, we are not, we cannot exist absent civilization.
[00:06:47]  So sometimes people may say like, well, is this an altruistic thing?
[00:06:51]  I mean, I think for me it feels altruistic, but even if one is not altruistic, even if one is very self-centered, you have to say, if you simply think long-term, you have to be pro-civilization because you cannot exist without civilization.
[00:07:10]  How important from zero to ten?
[00:07:12]  So, a big part of his thesis there is that civilization needs freedom of speech, that you need this diversity of opinion.
[00:07:20]  Obviously, I agree with that.
[00:07:21]  And it's a big part of why he sort of altruistically came along and offered $42 billion up for the likes of Twitter, to which, as much as the employees were like, no, please don't let Elon Musk near us, and as much as maybe executives at the company didn't want anything to do with Elon Musk, they didn't have a choice.
[00:07:38]  Because, well, you know, at the end of the day, there is the Delaware law, which insists that.
[00:07:44]  These executives and the board do whatever is best for shareholders in terms of maximizing value.
[00:07:50]  And he made an offer that let's just say they could not refuse.
[00:07:53]  So, could the same thing happen?
[00:07:55]  That's what's interesting here.
[00:07:57]  Could the same exact thing happen?
[00:07:59]  Of course, he's already talking about who he put in the slot.
[00:08:02]  We'll get to that in a second.
[00:08:03]  But how would this deal go about?
[00:08:05]  I can tell you that he'd have to come up with an offer that Comcast could not refuse.
[00:08:10]  In other words, Brian Roberts, who's chairman of the board there at Comcast, and Mike Kavanaugh, who runs the place, would have to say, wow, this is so good.
[00:08:18]  That it would be, frankly, a massive lawsuit in terms of shareholders that would come after us if we don't take this deal.
[00:08:26]  So, one, he'd have to have a really good offer.
[00:08:28]  Obviously, he could do it.
[00:08:29]  He's the world's richest person.
[00:08:30]  This is like chump change for him.
[00:08:32]  I put the valuation somewhere.
[00:08:34]  I just sort of made it up out of thin air around, you know, one, 1.2 times earnings.
[00:08:38]  So maybe you could call this company $7 billion.
[00:08:42]  He's got $7 billion.
[00:08:44]  I said, hey, you know, Elon, you'll get CNBC too.
[00:08:46]  Think about it.
[00:08:47]  And sci fi.
[00:08:48]  Imagine all the great stuff.
[00:08:49]  SpaceX programming, we could do on sci fi.
[00:08:53]  So, would he really come forward with it?
[00:08:55]  Listen, I mean, you'd have to figure out not just the $7 billion, but what is the tax hit that the company, Comcast, would take if it did this deal earlier?
[00:09:06]  And so then you'd have to add that money in there too.
[00:09:09]  And sure, there would be a lot of nastiness, et cetera.
[00:09:12]  But I think it could happen.
[00:09:14]  I think it could happen if he wants it.
[00:09:15]  That's the big question.
[00:09:16]  Does he really, really want this?
[00:09:18]  I mean, let's be honest.
[00:09:20]  Is that really the future?
[00:09:22]  I don't think so.
[00:09:24]  I don't think cable programming is the future in any way, shape, or form.
[00:09:27]  I think this is the future.
[00:09:28]  Streaming is the future.
[00:09:30]  So you can create that without having to go and buy this legacy cable company and have all these ridiculous deals that prevent you, frankly, prevent you from doing exactly what I'm doing in the here and now.
[00:09:44]  So maybe it doesn't make the most business sense.
[00:09:46]  Would it just be fun?
[00:09:47]  Sure, it would.
[00:09:48]  It would be so much fun, right?
[00:09:50]  I mean, Joe Rogan already out, ladies and gentlemen, over the weekend saying, hey, Elon, I'll take Rachel's gig.
[00:09:56]  You know what?
[00:09:57]  I'll take it.
[00:09:58]  And I'll even wear the glasses and everything.
[00:10:00]  So he's in.
[00:10:02]  He's in.
[00:10:03]  And then you've got Ashley Sinclair, a conservative influencer.
[00:10:08]  She's like, okay, here's the deal.
[00:10:09]  You put Joe Rogan in for Rachel Spot.
[00:10:12]  You can put Megan in for the primetime slate.
[00:10:14]  You put Scott Jennings, you know, the guy over at CNN who's constantly sort of dancing circles around them.
[00:10:19]  Put him in just for fun.
[00:10:21]  And you could have a version of the view, imagine, without the rape piece.
[00:10:25]  And then the Babbly Unbeat.
[00:10:26]  We love the Babbly Unbeat.
[00:10:27]  They could make their own late night show.
[00:10:29]  Hey, that would be great programming, right?
[00:10:31]  Would it not?
[00:10:32]  It would be.
[00:10:33]  It would be.
[00:10:34]  Maybe I'd even go back to CNBC in that arena, shall we say.
[00:10:38]  You know, I used to work there.
[00:10:40]  Bloomberg 2, Fox Business.
[00:10:41]  I've had the honor of working, if you want to call it that, at all of the business networks.
[00:10:48]  So immediately all the memes started and everybody joked about, oh, Rachel Maddow, she's crying, crying, crying.
[00:10:54]  This is a scene from one of her shows a few years ago.
[00:10:58]  She was actually.
[00:10:59]  Legitimately, I guess, really upset about something with immigration, but they just put a new lower third on the bottom.
[00:11:05]  Check it out.
[00:11:13]  To at least three.
[00:11:20]  Can we put up the graphic of this?
[00:11:23]  And, you know, you put up the graphic and then she really starts.
[00:11:27]  So, in the meme that's making the rounds, it's kind of a crude graphic.
[00:11:32]  And they put it up and all of a sudden, like, then she's really, really, really losing it.
[00:11:36]  Let me see.
[00:11:37]  I'm going to have to hand this off.
[00:11:39]  Yeah.
[00:11:41]  Sorry.
[00:11:42]  That does it for us tonight.
[00:11:43]  We'll see you again tomorrow.
[00:11:44]  No.
[00:11:44]  Okay.
[00:11:48]  So, what do you think?
[00:11:49]  You've got Joe Rogan in there taking over for Rachel.
[00:11:51]  You can do a heck of a, but, you know, Tucker could make it back.
[00:11:53]  Too.
[00:11:54]  Listen, you could have a lot of fun, I think, with programming.
[00:11:56]  The question really does become is this a worthwhile business opportunity?
[00:12:00]  You got to think about the tax implication.
[00:12:02]  You got to think about really the longevity in the businesses.
[00:12:04]  I don't know if they're really there, but if anybody, let me just say, if anybody could figure out how to make lemonade out of lemons, I think it would be Elon Musk.
[00:12:17]  I really do.
[00:12:18]  I think that he could actually think about this innovatively and he could get rid of those cable contracts so you're not dependent.
[00:12:25]  Dependent on getting a few bucks from a cable outlet for each home.
[00:12:29]  All those homes are just cutting the cord anyway.
[00:12:31]  And you could take what's there and maybe create more and more streamed content for X.
[00:12:37]  And that would be pretty compelling and that would be pretty incredible.
[00:12:41]  So obviously they're nervous over at MSNBC.
[00:12:44]  I mean, they're really, I mean, it was bad enough that Trump won.
[00:12:47]  And now Elon Musk is talking about buying the place.
[00:12:49]  That's driving them all crazy.
[00:12:51]  So they started hitting the phones to figure out if any other billionaires might come in.
[00:12:56]  And help come to their rescue.
[00:12:57]  Let's go over to CNN with their media reporter or media analyst, or is he just like a media commentator?
[00:13:02]  I don't know.
[00:13:02]  He used to have a job there, then he got fired.
[00:13:04]  Now he's somehow back on the air.
[00:13:05]  Let's listen.
[00:13:06]  This ends the argument about how important these social media platforms are.
[00:13:11]  Over the weekend, for example, Musk is joking, I think, about maybe trying to buy MSNBC.
[00:13:16]  It seems he's just trying to troll.
[00:13:18]  Comcast is not making MSNBC up for sale right now.
[00:13:22]  Maybe something will change in a few years.
[00:13:24]  But those tweets, those posts from Musk, those memes that he's posting, it just speaks to his.
[00:13:29]  power and his center of power throughout this incoming administration.
[00:13:33]  But elaborate on that potential joke.
[00:13:36]  He used some of the same phrasing that he used a few years ago when he ended up actually buying Twitter when he said, how much is it?
[00:13:43]  Just fairly casually.
[00:13:44]  I mean, it would seem that yes, there is a fair amount of trolling going on right now.
[00:13:48]  But at the same time, Comcast is cleaving off a part of the business that could potentially be an affordable acquisition.
[00:13:55]  Um, do you think that there's, there's any possibility that it's more than a joke?
[00:13:59]  Well, some are taking, some inside MSNBC are taking must comment seriously, whether he's trolling or not.
[00:14:04]  There is a serious undercurrent to this and it is the following.
[00:14:08]  In some countries where we've seen democratic backsliding, where some oppositional media outlets have been captured by the government, a process known as media capture, this is exactly what happens.
[00:14:17]  A ally of the leader, like Musk, comes in and buys a media outlet that is viewed as oppositional, and then he turns the content and makes it more friendly to the person in power.

=== The Media Holdout (08:32) ===

[00:14:27]  That has happened before in other countries.
[00:14:29]  That's part of the concern when even if Elon Musk is just joking, that's part of the concern here when it comes to MSNBC.
[00:14:35]  But at the moment, this spinoff that Comcast is doing will take at least a year to complete.
[00:14:40]  There's no immediate sale or any of that, I'm told, that is planned.
[00:14:44]  But the idea that Musk talks about it, he likes to say the most ironic outcome is the most likely.
[00:14:49]  And in this case, it would be pretty ironic if he controlled MSNBC.
[00:14:52]  Yeah, we still have more than a year of.
[00:14:54]  What he's actually getting at is Hungary, right?
[00:14:57]  And Viktor Orban, who has sort of a hold on the media, if you would.
[00:15:03]  And he's saying, oh my gosh, like this would be so bad.
[00:15:05]  You'd have Elon Musk come in, he'd have a hold on this media.
[00:15:08]  The only thing I'd say about that is, like, who do you think has.
[00:15:12]  Actually, had a hold on the media.
[00:15:15]  I mean, like, let's not kid ourselves, right?
[00:15:18]  What do you think we've been listening to for the last however many?
[00:15:22]  So, let me see if I can find one of my favorites here for you.
[00:15:24]  Because this is Joe Scarborough doubling down just days before the election, right?
[00:15:29]  On how awful, awful, awful Trump is, his supporters are, how you just need to excommunicate them.
[00:15:34]  They are the worst thing in the world.
[00:15:36]  They are effectively, you know, he's invoking World War II and Nazism.
[00:15:41]  I mean, it's bad, okay?
[00:15:43]  This is really bad.
[00:15:44]  So, you mean to tell me that?
[00:15:46]  Like, no one had a hold on the media already.
[00:15:48]  Let's be honest.
[00:15:50]  Watch.
[00:15:51]  Where can we meet in the middle?
[00:15:54]  On this question, we're past that.
[00:15:59]  You can't meet if they, listen, if they voted for Trump in 16, whatever.
[00:16:05]  They voted for Trump in 20, they knew exactly what they were doing.
[00:16:09]  If they vote for Donald Trump in 2024, and I've said it on my show, I'll say it here, they're knowingly voting for a fascist.
[00:16:19]  They're voting for a racist.
[00:16:22]  They're voting for somebody that wants to put this country 200 years in the back.
[00:16:31]  And so.
[00:16:32]  I'm not trying to figure them out.
[00:16:35]  I'm trying to figure out how we get people out who love democracy, who love freedom, who love the rights of all Americans, how to get them to the voting booth.
[00:16:47]  Because that's how we save our country.
[00:16:49]  I'm just saying, that was everyone in the media.
[00:16:54]  And I don't need to torture you by going back and showing all those clips, but you've seen them before.
[00:17:00]  From CNN to ABC News to CBS Evening News to NBC News to MSNBC to All of the, I mean, look at the New York Times, look at the Washington Post, look at everything.
[00:17:11]  You mean to tell me that the left didn't have a full on total grab, 100% right down?
[00:17:17]  I mean, they had it all.
[00:17:19]  They had the media.
[00:17:21]  And now somebody comes along and he bought X.
[00:17:25]  And maybe he'll buy a cable entity.
[00:17:27]  But guess what?
[00:17:27]  There's a lot of streamers out there on the left and the right.
[00:17:29]  Thank you very much.
[00:17:30]  And we still have, well, we don't really have anything that's neutral.
[00:17:36]  Let's be.
[00:17:37]  Perfectly, perfectly honest with one another.
[00:17:40]  If you think PBS is neutral, I got news for you.
[00:17:43]  They're part of the whole game, too, right?
[00:17:44]  So there's nothing that's neutral.
[00:17:46]  You might as well at least have both sides so that people have some optionality in this.
[00:17:52]  This is not a quote unquote media grab.
[00:17:53]  This is a chance to get maybe a little bit, a little bit of the media that might be out there.
[00:17:58]  Why do you think Fox did so well?
[00:18:00]  Okay, because Fox actually offered an alternative.
[00:18:03]  Why do you think Newsmax has been exploding?
[00:18:05]  Because it offers an alternative.
[00:18:07]  So Elon's saying, hey, You know, maybe there's some room for some more people at the table.
[00:18:12]  And this flips them out.
[00:18:14]  It freaks them out so badly.
[00:18:16]  I mean, I'm looking at Joy Reid in this clip, and she's trying to basically tell everyone you shouldn't be bothering with anybody in your family for Thanksgiving if they voted for Trump.
[00:18:27]  And it's as though she's looking over her shoulder.
[00:18:28]  She's really scared.
[00:18:29]  I mean, Elon might be there, right?
[00:18:34]  People are rightfully alarmed.
[00:18:36]  They have a reason to be alarmed.
[00:18:41]  And if you would vote for that, people may not feel so confident that they're safe with you.
[00:18:48]  This is not crazy.
[00:18:50]  This is legitimate feelings of fear of you and a feeling that you might not be someone they could trust.
[00:18:57]  If this thing goes way south, autocracies go south real fast and things get ugly and people get asked to do things and turn people in and.
[00:19:08]  Point people out and turn on them.
[00:19:11]  And if you're voting affirmatively, gleefully for this, people might, I don't know, may not feel so confident in you anymore.
[00:19:24]  That's real, and you kind of have to live with it.
[00:19:27]  So if you think that you can vote for what people see as their destruction and then demand that they still are cool with you and kiki with you and have Thanksgiving with you, like, I think you're kind of missing the point. of what people are upset about.
[00:19:42]  They're afraid.
[00:19:43]  And autocracy and fascism are things that are legitimate to be afraid of.
[00:19:48]  So you may want to step back.
[00:19:54]  So we're already like in a fascist.
[00:19:57]  I mean, he's not even in the White House yet, but somehow you should be fearful of fascism.
[00:20:01]  Come on.
[00:20:03]  What do you get?
[00:20:04]  21% of the audience I was looking at.
[00:20:06]  This is great.
[00:20:06]  There's a new CBS News poll that just came out.
[00:20:10]  Nearly 60% of the country is psyched that Trump is there.
[00:20:14]  People are like, okay, finally, maybe my grocery prices will come down.
[00:20:18]  And by the way, he was there for four years.
[00:20:20]  Are we dealing with a fascist World War II scenario?
[00:20:23]  No, we're not, right?
[00:20:24]  So it's actually highly irresponsible for her to do that.
[00:20:27]  But she's trying to stoke people's fears.
[00:20:29]  This is what it's about.
[00:20:30]  So, fine.
[00:20:31]  You know what?
[00:20:32]  I'm a big believer.
[00:20:33]  Everybody ought to be able to say what they want to say.
[00:20:36]  So, Joy, you don't have to whisper, honey.
[00:20:39]  You just don't have to whisper.
[00:20:41]  I mean, Elon doesn't care.
[00:20:43]  Okay, let me whisper that.
[00:20:44]  Elon doesn't care.
[00:20:46]  You can say what you want all day long.
[00:20:50]  Nobody wants to watch.
[00:20:51]  I mean, that's why your ratings are down 51%.
[00:20:54]  I get it.
[00:20:55]  You know, your company doesn't want anything to do with you anymore because you guys don't make any money and it's a dying business.
[00:21:01]  And sure, you know, there's going to be headaches along the way because you're always making noise for really gross, grotesque reasons like this.
[00:21:09]  Like this.
[00:21:10]  I mean, then there is this one.
[00:21:11]  I mean, this woman, this is, in my estimation, really, really grotesque.
[00:21:21]  Same lady here, Joy Reid, saying, I can't even, I will not do it justice.
[00:21:25]  I'm just going to let you watch.
[00:21:27]  Again, hey, freedom of speech, you do you.
[00:21:30]  But nobody actually wants to watch this right now.
[00:21:33]  And MSNBC and CNBC and Syfy and E and the rest of them are getting sold off in SpinCo because Comcast doesn't want to have anything to do with you, people, Joy.
[00:21:46]  Hey, I just want to give some free advice to the white progressives, particularly white progressive women who may be thinking about marching against the Trump victory, maybe putting back on the PeeWord hats and doing that thing.
[00:22:00]  I would just say probably don't send any of those invites to any black women you know.
[00:22:06]  I'm just going to tell you right now, they're not coming.
[00:22:10]  I'm pretty sure black women have resigned from the Save America Coalition, Save Democracy Coalition, and definitely the Save the Democratic Party.
[00:22:18]  Coalition.
[00:22:19]  I think that's probably not happening.
[00:22:21]  I would just keep those invites maybe among your own friends because I don't think they're coming.
[00:22:27]  But yeah, I think black women are now on the save black women, prioritize black men, and prioritize black communities, black businesses, and that, and the black spaces, but save America, save the Democratic Party.
[00:22:43]  Yeah, I don't think that's happening.
[00:22:44]  So where are you going?
[00:22:48]  I mean, clearly not to the MAGA party, right?
[00:22:51]  You don't want anything to do with Donald Trump.
[00:22:54]  But you don't want to help remake the Democrat Party, which you helped destroy.

=== Save Black Women First (03:52) ===

[00:23:00]  I mean, that's exactly what happened.
[00:23:02]  These characters over at MSNBC, they destroyed the Democrat Party.
[00:23:07]  And now she doesn't want to have anything to do with it?
[00:23:08]  I mean, this is really, really messed up.
[00:23:12]  Can you imagine?
[00:23:14]  If Elon buys this thing, Elon buys it, and guess what?
[00:23:17]  Everybody's fired.
[00:23:19]  We could all be fired a year from now.
[00:23:21]  If this happens, you never know what's going to happen.
[00:23:24]  No, you never know.
[00:23:25]  We'll see.
[00:23:26]  A year from now, Spinco happens, and then it's like another year to the tax thing settles out.
[00:23:31]  And then what?
[00:23:32]  Well, we're coming up on three years.
[00:23:33]  I wonder who's going to be running for president.
[00:23:35]  By then, it might just be JD Vance.
[00:23:38]  And then suddenly, Elon swoops in and gets this network for a pretty penny because by then it will really be in dire, dire, dire shape.
[00:23:45]  I'll be very interested to see where this stock actually trades.
[00:23:49]  But this is what's going on, okay?
[00:23:51]  So you get a bunch of crazies over there at MSNBC that are really, really upset because.
[00:23:55]  The election was lost by their team.
[00:23:57]  They cannot believe that they suddenly lack this relevance anymore after they told you.
[00:24:02]  They told you, how dare you?
[00:24:04]  How dare you go out and vote for the guy that they hated so much?
[00:24:07]  And now their network's up for sale.
[00:24:08]  So their network is up for sale.
[00:24:10]  There are pay cuts going on.
[00:24:11]  Rachel Maddow, for example, just had to take a $5 million pay cut down from $30 to $25 million for a show that she hosts once a week.
[00:24:20]  Go figure.
[00:24:20]  Apparently, her ratings are that good.
[00:24:22]  Not that good.
[00:24:23]  Not that good.
[00:24:25]  Not that good, considering that the company's.
[00:24:28]  Getting sold, all right?
[00:24:30]  Anyway, Mika and Joe, they see the handwriting on the wall right after the election, the weekend after.
[00:24:35]  They go down to Mar a Lago, right?
[00:24:37]  They do this whole song and dance and try and make nice with Donald Trump.
[00:24:42]  Joe and I went to Mar a Lago to meet personally with President elect Trump.
[00:24:47]  It was the first time.
[00:24:50]  Whoopsie.
[00:24:51]  Joe and I went to Mar a Lago to meet personally with President elect Trump.
[00:24:56]  It was the first time we have seen him in seven years.
[00:25:01]  Right.
[00:25:03]  I keep saying because they're like negotiating North Korea or something crazy, crazy, crazy like that.
[00:25:09]  And they're very, very like self involved.
[00:25:12]  So this is somehow a very big deal.
[00:25:13]  They went down there.
[00:25:14]  Of course, their viewers are flipping out because the viewers are like, wait a second, but didn't you tell us that he was absolutely evil?
[00:25:19]  Why are you talking to absolute evil then?
[00:25:22]  We'll get to that in a second.
[00:25:23]  We'll get to Jack Smith in just a moment as well.
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[00:26:00]  But anyway, this is certainly, if nothing else, Quite fun, don't you think?
[00:26:08]  To think about Elon Musk actually making a purchase like this and all the things that would happen.
[00:26:13]  I mean, Junior saying, Hey, you know, I got this idea.
[00:26:18]  He responded, and it's exactly the same response.
[00:26:22]  How much does it cost as he did with Twitter?
[00:26:25]  And everybody's kind of just really into this right now.
[00:26:28]  The memes keep on coming and coming and coming and coming.
[00:26:32]  And the truth is, you know, I would just say that this would be a wonderful thing, a wonderful, wonderful thing.
[00:26:40]  Because we need diversity in our media, and we don't have enough of it.
[00:26:45]  You know, hopefully this sale actually will inspire a little bit more.
[00:26:50]  But, you know, the handwriting's on the wall.

=== Diversity in Mainstream Media (06:57) ===

[00:26:52]  They lost the election, they lost the election.
[00:26:54]  And yet these people are so insane that they're doubling down on terrible stuff, like the MSNBC headline, right?
[00:27:01]  That they took down eventually, but.
[00:27:03]  It had already served its purpose, I guess, and people were kind of astounded.
[00:27:07]  Lincoln Riley's killer never stood a chance was their headline.
[00:27:10]  This is their legal analysis.
[00:27:11]  It's like, guys, enough already.
[00:27:13]  Don Jr. saying, hey, like, this is bad.
[00:27:15]  Like, why are you tweeting this stuff out?
[00:27:18]  Like, you cannot make up this level of depravity.
[00:27:21]  These people are pretty darn sick.
[00:27:23]  So, why?
[00:27:25]  Why are they?
[00:27:26]  This is like, they're kind of masochistic.
[00:27:28]  They're doing this to themselves.
[00:27:30]  They are making themselves irrelevant every single day.
[00:27:35]  The truth is, nobody respects the mainstream media at all.
[00:27:41]  The jig is up.
[00:27:42]  People know what they are, and they're over it, right?
[00:27:44]  They're here.
[00:27:45]  Thank you for subscribing, share, like, do all that good stuff.
[00:27:48]  They're here.
[00:27:48]  They're getting their news, live streams like this, where we don't have any teleprompter or any middle management saying you can do this, that, and the other.
[00:27:57]  And they're getting it on X, and they're getting it from a variety of places.
[00:27:59]  Elon making this point, right?
[00:28:01]  Very clearly saying to everybody, guess what?
[00:28:04]  You know, just after Trump won, he said, You are the media now.
[00:28:07]  X what you know.
[00:28:08]  X, what you hear, X, what you see.
[00:28:12]  He's trying to encourage people to take some ownership, right?
[00:28:15]  Don't always rely on these clowns getting paid millions and millions of dollars to interpret the news for you by way of the State Department or whoever's controlling the narrative out of the White House in any given time.
[00:28:31]  And there are those at MSNBC that really, really, really don't like that Elon's telling people.
[00:28:38]  That they have this power, right?
[00:28:40]  Because it makes them effectively powerless.
[00:28:42]  What they've realized in all of this is that they have much, much less power.
[00:28:46]  It's why Joe and Meeker are going down to Mar a Lago.
[00:28:49]  They're trying to court some favor maybe with the president because they want a little bit of power, maybe with the executives and the new Spinco.
[00:28:55]  They want to seem like they know what they're talking about when they talk about DC, but we've all seen through them the power is not with the mainstream media anymore.
[00:29:02]  It is over here in these alternative platforms, which I'm thrilled to be part of.
[00:29:07]  Anyway, the Axios founder, he doesn't like this.
[00:29:10]  He's one of the buddies over there on the MSNBC show.
[00:29:14]  He just collected a big award and gave this giant speech.
[00:29:17]  MSNBC, they were clapping like seals over this one.
[00:29:21]  Because we love it.
[00:29:22]  We do it because it matters.
[00:29:23]  The work that we do matters.
[00:29:27]  Everything we do is under fire.
[00:29:30]  Elon Musk sits on Twitter every day, or X today, saying, We are the media.
[00:29:35]  You are the media.
[00:29:37]  My message to Elon Musk is bullshit.
[00:29:40]  You're not the media.
[00:29:42]  You having a blue check mark, a Twitter handle, and 300 words of cleverness doesn't make you a reporter any more than me looking at your head and seeing that you have a brain and telling you have an awesome set of tools makes me a damn neurosurgeon.
[00:30:02]  Right?
[00:30:02]  Like what we do, what journalists do, what you did in Mississippi, what Al Jazeera does in the Middle East, you proclaim yourself to be a reporter.
[00:30:15]  Like that's nonsense.
[00:30:17]  Like being a reporter is hard, really hard.
[00:30:22]  You have to care.
[00:30:23]  You have to do the hard work.
[00:30:26]  You have to get up every single day and say, I want to get to the closest approximation of the truth without any fear, without any favoritism.
[00:30:34]  You don't do that by popping off on Twitter.
[00:30:37]  You don't do that by having an opinion.
[00:30:40]  You do it by doing the hard work.
[00:30:43]  Yeah, come on.
[00:30:44]  So glad I have a reply.
[00:30:46]  First of all, I've got to say.
[00:30:49]  He's just great, isn't he?
[00:30:52]  I gotta say, listen, this is part of the problem, right?
[00:30:55]  This kind of egomania that feeds them.
[00:30:58]  We are the journalists.
[00:30:59]  We control the news cycle.
[00:31:01]  We control the narrative.
[00:31:02]  Therefore, we have all the power.
[00:31:04]  And all of a sudden, that power cycle has been completely broken by none other than X.
[00:31:11]  I mean, back in the day, it was sort of Twitter and it was Donald Trump.
[00:31:14]  And Donald Trump realized pretty quickly hey, I can get to the people directly.
[00:31:18]  I actually don't have to wait around for 60 minutes to come and interview me, I can actually tweet.
[00:31:23]  And I can talk to them.
[00:31:25]  And there's this streaming thing.
[00:31:26]  And guess what?
[00:31:27]  I can go live and I can get all my information out directly to people and they will consume it.
[00:31:34]  And I don't have to go through this sort of kingmaker thing that happens in mainstream media.
[00:31:42]  It's like the mainstream media decides who's going to win.
[00:31:45]  Mainstream media decides who's going to get through the primaries.
[00:31:49]  I mean, they have an effect.
[00:31:51]  They do have an effect.
[00:31:52]  I would say that, you know, if you're not giving anybody else any airtime, then they're not going to have as much sort of cue factor, if you would.
[00:31:59]  When people go to the voting booths, they're not going to vote.
[00:32:01]  They're not going to know who they are.
[00:32:02]  And Donald Trump figured out, wait a second, I don't need to rely on those guys.
[00:32:06]  I can do it myself.
[00:32:07]  And therein is a big part of the problem.
[00:32:09]  So now it's going even further because it's not just political candidates that can suddenly go direct to the voters.
[00:32:16]  Direct to the consumers.
[00:32:18]  It's that everybody can have a viewpoint and everybody can publish that viewpoint.
[00:32:24]  And there's nothing more scary for the mainstream media than being replaced, right?
[00:32:31]  So this is why they just love Jim's speech over there on MSNBC.
[00:32:35]  And they had a few more things to say about it.
[00:32:37]  Everything up and down about not only their alternative set of facts, but alternative set of facts about what people like you.
[00:32:47]  Do.
[00:32:47]  And I love how you connected reporters in Mississippi in the 1960s to reporters fighting for their life to get the story out in the Middle East today.
[00:32:58]  Jim, it was very powerful.
[00:33:00]  Really good.
[00:33:00]  Very powerful.
[00:33:02]  Even if we had to beep you more than we would if we ran a Dave Chappelle concert, it's still good.
[00:33:11]  I like Jim's mild manner.
[00:33:12]  And he preached it, though.
[00:33:13]  He needed a cadence.
[00:33:14]  I mean, I might get him ordained.
[00:33:15]  Well, let me just say why this is so important right now more than ever.
[00:33:20]  Is because critics of the press are feeling more empowered than ever to lie more than ever.
[00:33:28]  I've had friends for years going, Oh, you know, I'm so overwhelmed, Joe, by the news.
[00:33:31]  I don't read the news.
[00:33:32]  I go, Oh, where do you get your news then?
[00:33:34]  Epic Times.
[00:33:35]  I go, Oh, oh, oh, you get your news from a website run by Chinese conspiracy theorists in a Chinese religion called Bets.
[00:33:47]  That is where you get the news.

=== Who Controls Your News (08:40) ===

[00:33:49]  No.
[00:33:50]  Or if social media people lying every day, Every hour, every minute about the news.
[00:33:59]  We're supposed to trust you people.
[00:34:02]  You really think that anybody is going to trust you after this CRAP?
[00:34:06]  You know, this junk.
[00:34:09]  We're past that.
[00:34:12]  He's sitting by the way with a guy who reportedly got 500K to his organization just days before interviewing Kamala Harris on MSNBC.
[00:34:21]  Guys, guess what?
[00:34:22]  All of these people are for sale.
[00:34:26]  You can't meet if they, listen, if they voted for Trump in 16, whatever.
[00:34:32]  They voted for Trump in 20.
[00:34:34]  They knew exactly what they were doing.
[00:34:37]  If they vote for Donald Trump in 2024, and I've said it on my show, I'll say it here, they're knowingly voting for a fascist.
[00:34:47]  They're voting for a racist.
[00:34:49]  They're voting for somebody that wants to put this country 200 years in the back.
[00:34:58]  And yet, guess what?
[00:35:00]  Joey, they voted for them.
[00:35:02]  Did you see all the red, okay?
[00:35:05]  So that happened despite you saying that every single day on your show.
[00:35:09]  You know, some of your viewers are a little upset right now because they don't understand why you went down to Mar a Lago.
[00:35:15]  If in fact you believe all that, do you believe all that?
[00:35:18]  I don't think you do.
[00:35:19]  I think that's the problem.
[00:35:21]  That was all a song and a dance to try and scare the heck out of people.
[00:35:24]  Rosie's not too happy with you.
[00:35:27]  Hope, please.
[00:35:29]  So Mika and Joe went down to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring.
[00:35:34]  So last time I ever watched Morning Joe, period.
[00:35:37]  End of statement.
[00:35:40]  Unreal.
[00:35:41]  Unreal.
[00:35:44]  For months you were telling us he's the worst thing that could happen to this country and democracy.
[00:35:48]  And then you go kiss his ring.
[00:35:53]  Despicable.
[00:35:55]  Despicable you.
[00:35:57]  Both of you.
[00:35:58]  Okay, so Rosie's pretty upset, but you know what, in a way, like she should be.
[00:36:04]  If you actually believed what they were saying, then how could they just turn around the next day and pretend like nothing happened?
[00:36:16]  I mean, if Joe Biden believed that Donald Trump was an existential threat to democracy, then how is he like okay with everything?
[00:36:25]  How's everything so hunky dory right now?
[00:36:28]  Corinne Jean Pierre was asked this very question.
[00:36:32]  It's been, you know, more than two weeks since the election.
[00:36:36]  This was an election that elected a man that President Biden has repeatedly referred to as an existential threat.
[00:36:43]  So why is it that the American people have not heard President Biden talk about this threat since the election?
[00:36:50]  Because there was an election when the American people spoke.
[00:36:52]  The will of the American people were very clear, right?
[00:36:56]  And so the president is now in a situation where we have to deal with a peaceful transfer of power.
[00:37:02]  We have to respect.
[00:37:03]  The will of the American people.
[00:37:05]  And that's what you have been seeing from this president trying to lead by example to make sure that that happens.
[00:37:10]  What do you know?
[00:37:11]  Apparently, the existential threat is no more.
[00:37:15]  It's pretty incredible.
[00:37:15]  I mean, they are so convinced that somehow these little podcasts like mine are influencing people in negative ways that, you know, that they, by the way, do not do.
[00:37:26]  Let me just say for the record, you know, I have an opinion.
[00:37:28]  I wear it on my sleeve, right?
[00:37:29]  Sometimes it gets me in a lot of trouble, and I'm okay with that.
[00:37:32]  I'm willing to just deal.
[00:37:34]  Because I'm a big believer that I should be able to say exactly what I think.
[00:37:38]  But I do actually try to really make sure I know what I'm thinking and what I'm saying before I say it.
[00:37:47]  Unlike too many members of this liberal media that think that they can manipulate something for their viewpoint.
[00:37:53]  I mean, hey, look, I've called out Trump plenty of times, including in August of 2020, because I was like, you guys can't keep printing money.
[00:37:59]  We're going to have massive inflation.
[00:38:01]  And he gave another stimulus check, the second one, the stimmy money.
[00:38:08]  You had Powell just printing, printing, printing, printing.
[00:38:11]  And then, of course, it was made extremely bad by Joe Biden, who got in there and gave a third stimmy check.
[00:38:15]  Powell kept printing.
[00:38:16]  And then you had Nancy and Chuck doing everything they could to spend trillions of dollars more.
[00:38:21]  So, sure, you get inflation, but you get my picture.
[00:38:24]  In other words, I'm always going to tell you what I think.
[00:38:26]  And hopefully, I'm smart enough, I'm honest enough to be able to look at all of this comprehensively.
[00:38:35]  But I don't think Mika and Joe are either honest nor smart enough to do such a thing.
[00:38:40]  They actually think that you can manipulate the economy based on what people are saying in the news.
[00:38:47]  Clearly, you couldn't, right?
[00:38:48]  Because did you see the inflation numbers?
[00:38:50]  I want to go back to 2022.
[00:38:52]  This is an excerpt of them from their little show back in 2020.
[00:38:56]  So, a couple of years ago, here they are talking about, oh my gosh, what happens if Trump were to win?
[00:39:01]  Who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters?
[00:39:05]  They go, yeah, you guys are going crazy.
[00:39:07]  He's doing, what are you so surprised about?
[00:39:09]  He's doing exactly what he said he's going to do.
[00:39:12]  Well, and I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he's trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts, and it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think.
[00:39:34]  And that is our job.
[00:39:36]  Yeah, if you look at the.
[00:39:37]  Really?
[00:39:38]  Okay, this is going to get good.
[00:39:40]  Yamish is right.
[00:39:41]  He's doing exactly what he said.
[00:39:43]  It's right.
[00:39:44]  It's you can control what people think.
[00:39:48]  You guys really think that?
[00:39:50]  Well, if you can control what people think, then I mean, who needs things like the stock market, by the way, which has been on a tear ever since Donald Trump came in?
[00:39:58]  Incidentally, Friday afternoon, right after I got off the air with you, I was over on 76 Research.
[00:40:03]  We got the appointment of Scott Besant.
[00:40:04]  He's who I told you all along I believed would actually get it.
[00:40:07]  Sure enough, really brilliant hedge fund guy.
[00:40:10]  And the market's really like that.
[00:40:11]  You had Treasuries rallying today.
[00:40:13]  Go over to investinmaga.com.
[00:40:15]  If you haven't done that, it's all free.
[00:40:17]  It's part of our 76 research offering.
[00:40:19]  76 research, the financial company I started with Rob Horton, a brilliant investor, 20 some odd years on Wall Street, running billions of dollars.
[00:40:26]  He gets it.
[00:40:27]  I get it.
[00:40:27]  Listen, we're trying to cut through the noise, right?
[00:40:29]  Because there's a lot of noise with the likes of Mika and Joe.
[00:40:32]  The reality is, no, guys, you can't actually totally somehow change what people think.
[00:40:41]  I mean, listen, on the margin, maybe you have a shot at least of.
[00:40:45]  Inspiring, right?
[00:40:46]  Maybe there's a little bit more excitement.
[00:40:48]  You look at these numbers that are coming to us right now out of CBS News, and I'll tell you, they're really good.
[00:40:54]  They're really, really good.
[00:40:55]  I mean, we're seeing 60% of Americans say they feel positive for the first time about the future, but this is what we're dealing with.
[00:41:04]  So, you know, you guys could get on television, and Mika and Joe, in fact, did, and they tried to say that the economy wasn't an issue.
[00:41:10]  Just look at the stock market.
[00:41:11]  It's all great.
[00:41:12]  You know, what are people complaining about?
[00:41:13]  And I was like, this is what people are complaining about.
[00:41:16]  Okay, you can't massage your way around this.
[00:41:18]  You can do a lot to kind of rally the troops and excite them.
[00:41:21]  And consumer sentiment is actually important.
[00:41:23]  Consumer confidence is really important.
[00:41:25]  And I think Trump does a really good job at that.
[00:41:27]  But if you're looking at K 12 food costs up 70% or car insurance up 57%, you're not going to be able to get away from those, oh, facts.
[00:41:37]  Dare I say facts?
[00:41:39]  I mean, these are not alternative facts.
[00:41:41]  These are actual facts.
[00:41:43]  And it's like pot calling kettle all day long here.
[00:41:46]  And guess what the result was?
[00:41:48]  The result was.
[00:41:49]  Was a massive red wave that even Joe Scarborough had to admit to.
[00:41:52]  Well, I mean, so much to go through, so many questions.
[00:41:55]  I came onto the set and Willie said, Hey, by the way, because we were talking about the historic nature of this sweep.
[00:42:04]  And Willie said, Do you know, he only lost Illinois by four points.
[00:42:11]  Four points.
[00:42:12]  New Jersey by five.
[00:42:13]  I mean, you talk about a red wave two years ago that never materialized.
[00:42:19]  This is the biggest red wave I've seen since Ronald Reagan's 49 state victory in 1984.

=== A Massive Red Wave (05:39) ===

[00:42:29]  Every, it seems every Republican across the country improved.
[00:42:36]  And this is despite everything you did.
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[00:43:05]  I just wanted to mention that to you guys.
[00:43:07]  But, you know, clearly, All of their concern, all of their angst, it's like it fell on deaf ears.
[00:43:13]  Is it because nobody's watching?
[00:43:15]  That's part of it.
[00:43:16]  It's also because I think people were just exhausted by everything that had been happening.
[00:43:21]  I mean, you think about all of the cases, the federal cases, and then you had, well, multiple state cases from Letitia James to Alvin Bragg, that one getting dismissed the other day, to Fannie Willis and all of her issues down there in Georgia.
[00:43:34]  I mean, people at some point were just getting so darn tired of this, and rightly so.
[00:43:39]  And now again today, A new development yet again.
[00:43:42]  And we have learned that Jack Smith has dropped this case against the federal case and federal interference charges against Donald Trump associated with J6.
[00:43:54]  This is an NBC News special report.
[00:43:57]  Here's Lester Holt.
[00:43:58]  Good day.
[00:44:03]  We're coming on the air with breaking news about President elect Donald Trump.
[00:44:07]  The Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith just filed a motion to dismiss the federal.
[00:44:13]  Criminal case against the president elect over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
[00:44:20]  The news comes after NBC News learned the Justice Department had been planning to wind down its federal cases against Mr. Trump.
[00:44:29]  It also comes as NBC News learned that Smith and his team plan to resign before Mr. Trump returns to the White House.
[00:44:37]  Ooh, okay, so this is not good.
[00:44:40]  This is not good for the Democrats because it's sort of game over.
[00:44:43]  And everybody's looking back on this and saying, so what was that all about, really?
[00:44:48]  I mean, why were you constantly, constantly doing this?
[00:44:53]  And I think that question actually does need to get answered.
[00:44:56]  Think about Letitia James.
[00:44:57]  I mean, as recently as a few months ago, she was out there saying, hey, I'm not intimidated by Trump.
[00:45:02]  Even if he wins, I'm still moving forward.
[00:45:05]  I mean, this is one vindictive woman who is about to have her case thrown out of the Court of Appeals any second now.
[00:45:12]  Like, literally, it could happen when I'm on this show.
[00:45:15]  And yet, this is what she's spouting.
[00:45:17]  I will not fear Donald Trump.
[00:45:19]  I have steel in my backbone.
[00:45:21]  And the reality is, I will not allow this person, Donald Trump, who unfortunately is a broken man, to get in the way of progress and to separate.
[00:45:30]  Okay, so she's not done.
[00:45:33]  I mean, Jack Smith is done.
[00:45:35]  He's filed a motion there to dismiss.
[00:45:37]  He's just dismissed it.
[00:45:39]  You've got Alvin Bragg dismissing it.
[00:45:42]  And, well, you know, Fannie, she can't get out of her own way.
[00:45:45]  She can't get off her Fannie because she had a little indiscretion along the way, which kind of.
[00:45:51]  Makes it really tough to move forward.
[00:45:54]  In other words, her whole office is going to probably get voted out, or not voted out, just kicked out, and then they have to start the whole thing over again.
[00:46:01]  But it makes you ask the question like, what was this really about?
[00:46:08]  They just wanted to make sure he couldn't run again.
[00:46:11]  And I think people were disgusted by this.
[00:46:13]  It's partly why he won.
[00:46:15]  I mean, after a while, it got nauseating.
[00:46:18]  There were times I couldn't even care.
[00:46:19]  I mean, I do this every day, right?
[00:46:20]  And I was like, wait, what lawsuit are we on now?
[00:46:22]  Let me try and keep these straight.
[00:46:25]  So over on MSNBC, they're flipping out CNN too.
[00:46:28]  They just can't believe this is happening.
[00:46:29]  This day has come.
[00:46:31]  And they're worried about retaliation.
[00:46:34]  They're worried about retaliation because you see, Pam Bondi, who just took over for Gates, she's going to be the AG.
[00:46:42]  And this woman is no joke.
[00:46:44]  Like, she's already made it clear that this is not cool, what went down.
[00:46:48]  And I suspect Pam has a lot of questions and she's going to demand answers, which they're already setting up for.
[00:46:54]  And they're really, really worried.
[00:46:56]  This woman on MSNBC says if this happens, it's going to be really bad.
[00:47:00]  Watch.
[00:47:01]  Well, so let me ask you very directly are you concerned for Jack Smith?
[00:47:05]  under a new Justice Department?
[00:47:06]  Are you concerned for the people who worked with him on this case?
[00:47:10]  Well, some of the Trump supporters are suggesting that there should be retaliatory measures taken against the lawyers in the Department of Justice for doing their job.
[00:47:25]  That would be extraordinary and a real misuse of power and a subversion of the rule of law.
[00:47:31]  So we'll see whether, you know, President Biden preemptively pardons people who would be wrongfully charged?
[00:47:39]  Who knows?
[00:47:40]  But to use the levers of power in a revenge mode, which is what Trump has suggested, is a misuse of presidential authority and a subversion of the rule of law.
[00:47:55]  Actually, he hasn't suggested that.
[00:47:57]  He, in fact, said the exact opposite.
[00:47:59]  Howie Kurtz, whom I used to work with over at Fox, has a media show.
[00:48:02]  He interviewed President Trump just a couple of weeks before the election, and President Trump said, actually, I'm not interested in that.

=== Misuse of Presidential Power (00:18) ===

[00:48:08]  Like, this is not about revenge.
[00:48:10]  I don't need to go after people for this reason.
[00:48:12]  But, you know, and he's nice about it.
[00:48:14]  But I would just say maybe Pambandi isn't as nice about it, right?
[00:48:19]  Well, I was a prosecutor, I was a homicide prosecutor for 18 years.
[00:48:23]  I was Florida's first female attorney general.
[00:48:26]  And I was